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>>chair, doug chaffee: good

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morning, everyone. Please find

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a seat, if you can. We have

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some presentations to make this

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morning before we start our

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board meeting. And so I'm doug

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chaffee, the chair of the board,

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and also fourth district

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supervisor. The first item

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we're going to bring is "elder

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abuse awareness" day. It's

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actually passed, but we look at

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that every dave the year anyway.

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I'd like to thank supervisor

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nguyen for joining me and

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bringing this item forward. So

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thank you, supervisor nguyen.

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Sadly, every year we recognize

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elder abuse day to bring

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awareness to the exploitation,

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neglect and abuse many of our

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seniors experience and try to

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offer hope to the victims. In

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orange county, adults 65 and

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older account for over 24% of

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our population, and this

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population is continuing to grow

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almost expotentially. So 10% of

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adults say 65 and older

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experience some form of abuse

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within any given year. That's

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an awful statistic. Elder abuse

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takes many forms. Can be

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physical, psychological, sexual,

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financial exploitation, neglect

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or sometimes even abandonment.

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In 2025 alone, the county of

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program received over 22,000

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reports regarding abuse and

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neglect. Now, the county of

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orange, including the social

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service agency, and we have many

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agencies involved in this

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program, our health agency, our

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office on aging, public

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gardenia, district attorney, and

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orange county community partners

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are committed to helping seniors

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live longer, healthier, and

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safer lives.. To receive this

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resolution, I'd like to invite

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the following people to come up,

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please. Gale aroux hoe, the

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district director of the social

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service agency, claudia harris,

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director of the office of aging.

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The county offers programs that

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offer support for families,

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caregivers, address issues of

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exploitation, neglect, and abuse

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of elders. We strongly

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encourage every resident in

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orange county to report

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suspected abuse of an elderly

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person. So thank you to all the

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communities who have provided

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support and working lang side

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our community every day. So if

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you are a victim of elder abuse

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or know someone in need of

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support, please call the adult

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protective services hotline,

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which is 800-451-5155. Now

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before gale speaks, I'd like to

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invite supervisor nguyen and the

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rest of the board to give any

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remarks about the resolution

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we're about to present. Thank

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you.

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>>janet nguyen: thank you,

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MR. CHAIRMAN, and thank you for

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the opportunity to co-author

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with you on this important

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awareness. A time dedicated to

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protecting some of the most

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important individuals of our

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community, our seniors. Every

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one of us has someone we cherish

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who is older, a parent, a

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grandparent, a neighbor, a

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mentor or a friend. These are

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the people who help build our

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communities, raise families,

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serve our country, started

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businesses and passed down the

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values that guide us today.

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They deserve our gratitude.

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They deserve our respect, and

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most important, they deserve to

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live with dignity and safely.

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Unfortunately, elder abuse is

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more common than many people

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realize. It can take many

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forms, physical abuse, emotional

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abuse, neglect, financial

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exploitation or even isolation.

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Sometimes the signs are obvious.

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hidden behind closed doors --

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more often, they are hidden

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behind closed doors, unnoticed

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by the people who care. Many

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victims are afraid to speak up.

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Some feel embarrassed. Others

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worry about losing their

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independence or burdening their

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loved ones. That is why

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awareness matters. We all have

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a role to play in protecting our

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older adults. A simple phone

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call, a visit or checking in on

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a neighbor can make a big

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difference. I saw this during

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the incident in garden grove.

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There is an area in our

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community -- the neighborhood

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was all elderly seniors. And

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the neighbors came together,

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knew those seniors who live in

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those homes by themselves, went

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to their homes and helped them

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get out of the area. And so

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that's what we want to do, is

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making sure that we know who our

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neighbors are, making sure that

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we are able to assist when

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needed. Paying attention to

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changes in behavior, unexplained

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financial problems or even signs

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of neglect can help identify

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someone who MAY need assistance.

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fortunate to have dedicated

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professional caregivers,

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advocates, law enforcement

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officers, community

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organizations and work every day

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to support seniors and

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investigate reports abuse. I

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appreciate our district attorney

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and his office for continuing to

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making sure that this is a

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priority for the department.

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Their work helps ensure that

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vulnerable adults have someone

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looking out for them when they

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need it most. As a community,

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we must continue to promote

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education, encourage reporting

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and provide resources that help

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seniors remain safe and

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connected and independent. Let

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us recommit ourselves to

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creating a community where older

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adults are valued, protected and

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empowered to live their lives

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free from abuse and

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exploitation. Thank you.

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>>v. Chair, katrina foley, good

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morning, everyone. I'm katrina

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foley representing the fabulous

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fifth district. This year's

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elder abuse awareness theme is

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beyond awareness. It cause us

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to pay attention to our most

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vulnerable and then act. Don't

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just notice, but act. Orange

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county is home to more than

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690,000 seniors representing 17%

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of the total residents here in

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orange county, and that number

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is just growing and growing. We

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know from our master plan for

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aging that we are an aging

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community. So I say to all of

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the young people in the audience

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today, please stay here, make

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orange county your home. We

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need you. Within the county, 1

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in 10 older individuals fall

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victim to elder abuse annually

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. In 2025 the county of orange

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social service agency's adult

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protective services received

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5,244 reports for abuse and

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neglect just in district 5. So

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that's more than 5,000 older

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adults who are being mistreated

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in district 5. Nearly -- in

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nearly half of these reported

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cases, the abuser is a family

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member. I personally had a

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family member who was being

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abused by their stepdaughters,

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and it was so bad that when her

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husband died, the stepdaughters

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kicked the elderly woman out her

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home. Now, really important, if

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you're an older adult, call the

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police. All of our police these

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days wear body cams. So it was

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because of the body cam that was

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preserved long past the

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husband's life that this woman

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got justice. So, remember of

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course, people are here to help

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you. If it's you who's being

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abused, don't be afraid to call.

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If you witness someone being

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abused or neglected, if it's

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your neighbor, reach out, knock

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on their door, because they're

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probably too ashaped to ask for

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help, but they need it. Also,

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as a reminder, our adult

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protective services 24-hour

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hotline is 1-800-451-5155.

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Beyond awareness. Be aware and

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then act. Thank you. Probably

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>>speaker: good morning. On

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behalf of the county of orange

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social services agency's office

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on aging and fellow and county

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and communities in the service

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of elder abuse prevention, thank

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you for recognizing world elder

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abuse awareness day and for your

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continued support ofests to

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protect older and dependent

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adults in orange county elder

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abuse remains a significant

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concern in our community. Last

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year adult protective services

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received more than 22,000

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reports involving financial

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exploitation, psychological

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abuse, caregiver neglect,

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physical abuse, isolation and

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self-neglect. These situations

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threaten the well-being and

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safety of those who are often

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least able to advocate for

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themselves. Our aps social

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workers respond to these reports

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every day at social service

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agency, ensuring the vulnerable

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adults receive the support and

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intervention they need. Their

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work is strengthened by our

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office on aging which

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administers the long-term care

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some budsman and elder abuse

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prevention program as well as

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key services such as housing,

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relocation assistance,

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transportation, health and

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in-home care and legal and

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financial resources. Through

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these partnerships we are able

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to meet the diverse needs of our

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older adults throughout county.

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Community awareness also plays a

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critical role. The signs of

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abuse are not always visible,

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and sometimes a simple check-in

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with an older neighbor, friend,

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or loved one can help reduce

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isolation and open the door for

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someone to share their concerns.

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If you suspect abuse or

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neglect, contact our 24-hour aps

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hotline at eye hundred-451-5155.

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And for those seeking

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additional support or services,

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the office on aging's

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information and assistance call

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center is available at

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714-480-6450. Thank you for

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your recognition today and for

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your continued commitment to the

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well-being and dignity of older

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adults in orange county.

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>>chair, doug chaffee: qons

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again, I'm doug chaffee, chair

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of the board. Today we

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recognize JUNE as gun violence

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awareness month in orange

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county. Every year we join in

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communities across the country

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to spread awareness about gun

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violence and honor those who

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lost their lives because of it.

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Tragically on an average 130

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people in the united states are

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killed by guns each days and

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over 200 more are shot and

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wounded. So each of these

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numbers represents a story of

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profound loss and devastation.

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Their lives lost, families

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shattered and communities

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scarred by gun violence even

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here in orange county. Somewhat

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of a response to that, I began a

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gun buy-back program in 2022.

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And it's sponsored by seven

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police departments who joined in

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staffing the event. The event

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also included giving out what we

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call free gun locks. The idea

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is not to say you scrbt a

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weapon, but if you don't want

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one, we have a way of disposing

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of it, we give you a gift card

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in return. And if you have

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other weapons, please keep them

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safe. For that reason, we gave

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out three gun locks. So they

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had a second event in the city

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of anaheim that supervisor

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sarmiento joined in, and a third

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one with the police department

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in garden grove, now joined by

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supervisor nguyen. All together

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we were able to get 1,055

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firearms, including 76 assault

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weapons often street. So this

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type of thing is -- safety is

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very important. So we also

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started a free gun lock program.

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You can go online with my --

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and you'll see how to get a free

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gun lock if you're an orange

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county resident. It's available

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to all orange county residents.

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And there's also a tutorial on

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how to use the gun locks. So

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different kinds of weapons need

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different ways of inserting them

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and using them. So I'd like to

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invite deputy health officer

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DR. Shiek to the dais to join

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us. He has cared for victims of

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firearm violence for over two

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decades and currently serves as

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orange county's interim ems

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medical director, deputy health

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officer and practicing trauma

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and critical care surgeon.

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Throughout her career, she has

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cared for patients across the

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entire continuum from the trauma

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bay to the operating courtroom

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and ICUs 'recovery victims.

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We're guided that the best way

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to treat traumatic injury is to

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prevent it from happening in the

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first place. So her work

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focuses on life-saving care and

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also injury prevention, firearm

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storage and energy prevention.

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The gun lock component program

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is transitioning to the orange

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county health care agency where

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we integrate it into a broader

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framework of community health

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and entry prevention services.

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Together we can raise awareness

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of inherent barriers of firearm

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ownership and promoting

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responsible gun safety

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practices. So we encourage

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every resident of orange county

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to have a conversation with

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their loved ones, discuss

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important topics like gun

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violence, gun safety and how to

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identify solutions to prevent

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gun violence. In JUNE we honor

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all those impacted by gun

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violence as well, those whose

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lives were taken because of it.

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Part of the month -- because

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hunters wear orange when they're

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hunting so they're

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distinguishable from other

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things in the forest, orange is

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the color that we use to honor

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the gun violence month. So we

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are wearing orange -- at least,

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I've got part orange here on my

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tie. And with that, I'd like to

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invite our other supervisor to

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join us.

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>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

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you. Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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Katrina foley, county supervisor

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representing the fabulous fifth

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district. I'd like to at this

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time invite my guests from moms

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demand action to come and join

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us here. Gun violence impacts

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us all. I want to thank the

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CHAIRMAN For his advocacy and

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his work to end gun violence

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here in orange county. Today my

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team and I wear orange. We wear

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orange to honor the survivors of

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gun violence, raise awareness

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and demand change. No one in

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orange county should fear going

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to school, a place of worship or

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work or attending community

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events. According to the orange

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county sheriff's department,

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there were 135 gun-related

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deaths in orange county in 2025.

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29 of those were in district 5.

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93 of the gun-related deaths

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were self-inflicted wounds. 25

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in district 5. No dispute

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should end in a life stolen. No

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bad day should end with gun

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violence. At county of orange

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we continue our work increasing

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prevention tactics, promoting

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safe and responsible firearm

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practices, the gun lock program

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is a strong program here at the

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county of orange, and we think

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it's working. These locks

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protect children. They keep

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families safe, and they keep

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individuals safe. We appreciate

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groups like moms demand action,

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who I have been partnering with

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since 2019. I looked it up. --

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on advocacy for gun safety

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legislation while also providing

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essential resources for gun

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violence victims and their

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survivors. I'd like to

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introduce oliana andersen from

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moms demand action orange county

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and -- are you going to say a

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few words? Thank you.

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>>chair, doug chaffee: sorry. I

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forgot to introduce lieutenant

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haddad from the brea police

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department. When you get a gun

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lock package, you also get a

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little video featuring the

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lieutenant demonstrating how to

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insert the gun lock in different

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kinds of weapons. So he'll be

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one of our speakers, as well.

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>>speaker: good morning,

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everyone. Thank you, supervisor

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chaffee, to the board of

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supervisors, for taking a moment

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to recognize gun violence

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awareness month. As the

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speakers before me has said, gun

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violence is truly a public

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health issue and one that

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impacts our community, not just

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in one moment, but for a

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lifetime. It is for that reason

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and as a practicing trauma and

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critical care surgeon in my own

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two decades of experience of

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taking care of gun violence

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injury patients as well as their

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families in the communities that

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support them that it becomes

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incredibly imperative that we

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begin to recognize, support all

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of those individuals, the

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families as well as the programs

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that are taking care of those

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that are injured by gun

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violence. As supervisor chaffee

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said, one of the lessons that I

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have learned as a longstanding

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trauma critical care surgeon

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deputy health officer and your

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ems interim medical director is

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the best way to treat trauma is

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to actually prevent it from

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happening in the first place,

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with that, I hope we spend the

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month in awareness, education,

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and as we move forward

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prevention as well. Thank you

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>>speaker: my name is lieutenant

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haddad with the brea police

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department. Thank you for

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allowing me the opportunity to

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speak today. One of the most

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frustrating instances of gun

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injuries are accidental

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injuries, including children.

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So if you do have a firearm and

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don't have a safe to lock it in,

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especially if you have children

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or children that visit, please

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use a gun lock. It's a

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completely avoidable tragedy.

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So thank you.

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>>speaker: hello, my name is

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elaina andersen, and I'm a

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founding member of the orange

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county chapter of moms demand

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action for gun sense in america

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and currently serve as colead

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for the california chapter. The

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day after the shooting at sandy

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hook elementary school schools

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and 20 first-graders and six

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educators were murdered in

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DECEMBER of 2012, shannon watts

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started a football group with

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the message that all americans

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can and should do more to reduce

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gun violence. The online

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conversation turned into moms

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demand action, a non-partisan

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grassroots movement of over 11

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million supporters of students,

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moms, dads, families, concerned

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citizens and survivors working

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together with our partners in

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the gun violence prevention

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movement to end this uniquely

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american crisis. Our first ever

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event in orange county was in

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april 2013. I joined because I

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was a high school teacher who

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always had a lesson plan and an

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escape plan for my students.

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Additionally, the previous year

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there had been a mass shooting

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at salon mayor tawj in my seal

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beach neighborhood. Luckily my

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then 1-year-old daughter and I

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hadn't walked past the salon to

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the park that day because the

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shooter was caught along our

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route about a dozen doors from

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our house. In the 13 years as a

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moms demand action volunteer,

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we've learned so much about ways

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to prevent gun violence. We

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started at the secure storage

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program called be smart because

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gun secure storage save kids'

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lives. I'm shy, and it was

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scary, but with guns being the

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number one killer of children

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and teens nationwide, I decided

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I'd rather have an awkward

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conversation before my kid went

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to someone's house and ask

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whether they had guns in their

578
00:24:04,947 --> 00:24:05,847
home rather than a tragic

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conversation later if somebody

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found a gun and someone were

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unintentionally shot and killed

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or injured. My suggestion to

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you is this conversation. I'd

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say, before my daughter comes

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over to visit, I want you to

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know that your child is invited

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to our home, as well. Just to

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you know, with very a pool, and

589
00:24:22,730 --> 00:24:23,531
it's fenced. We have a dog, but

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00:24:23,531 --> 00:24:25,767
she's friendly, and we can put

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her in another room if you're

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allergic. We don't have any

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food allergies and we don't have

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any firearms. How about you?

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No one has ever got upset about

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the question. Most were impress

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asked started asking too. If

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they ever said yes we have a

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gun, I'd ask how it's stored,

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and if they say anything other

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than it's locked and unloaded

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with the ammo locked separately,

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I invite them to come to our

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house instead. 1/3 of youth

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00:24:54,129 --> 00:24:55,970
suicides and unintentional

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deaths to be prevented by

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securing guns. I'm thankful

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that the orange county board

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supervisors help supply free gun

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locks in the community.

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Unfortunately, I've met too many

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people who have been shot and

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00:25:08,643 --> 00:25:10,880
survived or had loved ones taken

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I go gun violence. Moms demand

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action offers the every town

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survivor network welcoming

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anyone who has personally

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experienced gun violence,

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whether you have witnessed an

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act of gun violence, been

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threatened or wounded with a gun

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or had someone you know or cared

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about wound -- or killed, the

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survivor network offers

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resources and also opportunities

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for survivors to turn their pain

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into power by sharing their

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stories. I'm proud of the work

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that we do with moms demand

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action. We support community

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violence intervention and

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00:25:38,573 --> 00:25:40,573
prevention organizations. Those

633
00:25:40,843 --> 00:25:42,610
are the real heroes. Working to

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stop gun violence before it

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happens and worth the investment

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of communities and local, state,

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and federal government. We also

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have an active students demand

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group and mayors against gun

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violence. Together we work with

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our communities and business

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leaders to encourage a culture

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of responsible gun ownership

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because we know that gun

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violence is preventable, and

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we're committed to doing what it

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takes to keep families safe.

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Thank you again to the board of

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orange -- the orange county

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board of supervisors for

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recognize gun violence awareness

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month and to vice-chair

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supervisor katrina foley and

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CHAIRMAN Chaffee for inviting us

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to participate and wear orange.

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If you're interested in learning

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more about moms demand action or

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students demand action text word

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"ready" or the word "students"

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to 64433.

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Thank you.

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>>chair, doug chaffee: we have

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one more presentation to naik

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make. That is the usa 250th

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anniversary. And this is a

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presentation to be led by

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supervisor wagner and nguyen.

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And so I'll simply say, as we

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lead up to the 250th

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anniversary, the signing of the

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declaration of independence,

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it's important for a lot of us

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to recommit ourselves to

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upholding the founding

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principles in the nation, which

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is justice, liberty, and

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equality for all. With that,

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00:28:12,762 --> 00:28:12,962
either of you guys want to

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lead?

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>>don wagner: good morning. I'm

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don wagner from the thriving

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third.. And as I'm sure most

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of you know, next saturday, the

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4th, marks a monumental

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00:28:27,309 --> 00:28:28,711
occasion, the 250th

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anniversary of the founding of

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the united states. We're joined

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today by joelle len chapman,

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come on up, please, director of

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00:28:38,355 --> 00:28:39,789
concordia university irvine's

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00:28:39,789 --> 00:28:42,789
center for civics education and

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co-chair of usa 250 oc. On that

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day, JULY 4th, 1776, 250 years

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ago, the 56 delegates to the

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second continental congress

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signed the declaration of

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00:28:57,874 --> 00:28:59,775
independence, proclaiming that

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the 13 colonies were free and

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independent states and were no

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longer a part of the british

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00:29:05,615 --> 00:29:08,615
empire. What many americans MAY

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00:29:08,885 --> 00:29:11,921
not know is that the declaration

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00:29:11,921 --> 00:29:16,121
was signed over a year into the

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00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,161
american revolutionary war with

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the battle of lexington and

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00:29:20,363 --> 00:29:21,430
concord and that legendary shot

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00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:23,699
heard around the world taking

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place over a year earlier, APRIL

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00:29:30,239 --> 00:29:33,239
of 1775. And it took eight

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00:29:40,917 --> 00:29:42,619
years of bloody conflict.. We

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00:29:42,619 --> 00:29:44,855
had to do it all over again in

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1812. It stuck that time. None

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of the founding fathers who ever

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have imagined in that iconic

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moment, 250 years ago, the

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technological, the military, the

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medical, the cultural and

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industrial global power those 13

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colonies bound together as the

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united states of america would

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become. Through their

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00:30:07,778 --> 00:30:09,279
conviction, their tenacity and

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00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,679
dedication to establishing a

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republic based on the rule of

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law, based on the cornerstone

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00:30:17,587 --> 00:30:21,625
idea that all of us are created

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free and equal, these men

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ushered into existence the

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00:30:26,964 --> 00:30:28,300
greatest nation history has

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seen. And it is important that

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we do events like this 250th

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celebration because it is by

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doing this, it is by going back

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and remembering the principles

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00:30:41,512 --> 00:30:42,913
upon which this nation was

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00:30:42,913 --> 00:30:44,748
founded, by teaching our

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00:30:44,748 --> 00:30:47,148
children those principles, we

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00:30:49,987 --> 00:30:53,587
can make sure that they long

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00:30:53,857 --> 00:30:55,258
endure. It is by these sorts of

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00:30:55,258 --> 00:30:56,293
recollections, reminding our

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00:30:56,293 --> 00:30:59,797
children why we are special, how

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00:30:59,797 --> 00:31:02,980
we are special, that we develop

743
00:31:02,980 --> 00:31:03,834
the future generation of

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00:31:03,834 --> 00:31:06,234
leaders, the future generation

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00:31:08,271 --> 00:31:09,873
of men and women like those

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00:31:09,873 --> 00:31:12,109
colonists 250 years ago who

747
00:31:12,109 --> 00:31:13,100
rallied to the flag and fired

748
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,345
that shot heard around the world

749
00:31:15,345 --> 00:31:18,945
and who will continue to stand

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00:31:20,784 --> 00:31:24,555
for that flag behind us as this

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00:31:24,555 --> 00:31:26,122
nation continues, in lincoln's

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00:31:26,122 --> 00:31:28,158
words, to sew endure. If any of

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00:31:28,158 --> 00:31:31,158
my colleagues have anything to

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00:31:31,495 --> 00:31:34,432
say, know would be the time.

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Supervisor nguyen.

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>>janet nguyen: thank you.

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00:31:36,968 --> 00:31:38,969
Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN, for

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allowing us to put this on the

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00:31:40,204 --> 00:31:42,840
agenda and I appreciate my

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00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,873
colleague supervisor wagner for

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00:31:43,873 --> 00:31:45,242
co-authoring, partnering with me

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00:31:45,242 --> 00:31:47,378
on this. I'm excited to speak

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about this proclamation for

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00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,800
america's 250th birthday. The

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00:31:53,170 --> 00:31:54,451
federal government established a

766
00:31:54,451 --> 00:31:56,190
semiquince centennial commission

767
00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:57,488
back this 2016. So this has

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00:31:57,488 --> 00:31:59,724
been in the planning stages for

769
00:31:59,724 --> 00:32:01,892
a while. In 2024 when I was in

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00:32:01,892 --> 00:32:04,428
the state senate I realized that

771
00:32:04,428 --> 00:32:05,896
california had no commission to

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00:32:05,896 --> 00:32:06,897
partner with the feds to create

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00:32:06,897 --> 00:32:09,297
the biggest celebration ever.

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00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,400
So I authored the bill. And

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00:32:13,737 --> 00:32:15,639
with that -- those bills, with

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00:32:15,639 --> 00:32:16,807
reable to get detention of the

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00:32:16,807 --> 00:32:18,175
governor who has formed his --

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00:32:18,175 --> 00:32:19,750
we were able to get the

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attention of the governor who

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00:32:21,111 --> 00:32:22,379
has formed his own commission

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00:32:22,379 --> 00:32:24,447
here in california. Now we're

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00:32:24,447 --> 00:32:25,849
about a week away from america's

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00:32:25,849 --> 00:32:27,484
birthday. For those of who grew

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up in america and learned about

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00:32:29,787 --> 00:32:30,488
george washington, thomas

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jefferson, james madison, ben

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franklin and our other great

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00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:36,459
founding fathers you have a

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gift. Millions of people around

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00:32:37,961 --> 00:32:40,498
the world would love to be

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00:32:40,498 --> 00:32:42,533
americans. Just look at the

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00:32:42,533 --> 00:32:44,869
social poses of people visiting

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here from other countries during

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00:32:47,172 --> 00:32:48,671
the world cup. They can't get

795
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enough of america. When I came

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00:32:51,108 --> 00:32:53,543
here as a child I was late

797
00:32:53,543 --> 00:32:54,945
getting up to speed on our

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00:32:54,945 --> 00:32:57,948
history, but I read and learned

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all that I could. At one point

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i knew every U.S. PRESIDENT In

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order and even did a perfect

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00:33:04,955 --> 00:33:08,559
score on my U.S. History exam.

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00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,930
I remember that all these years

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00:33:10,930 --> 00:33:11,762
later because I love this

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00:33:11,762 --> 00:33:13,530
country. It was fascinating to

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00:33:13,530 --> 00:33:15,930
learn about the revolutionary

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00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,103
war and the brave patriots who

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00:33:18,103 --> 00:33:20,905
fought to free from british

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rule. It wasn't obvious they

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00:33:21,806 --> 00:33:22,707
could win. They were

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out-numbered, didn't have any

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00:33:25,420 --> 00:33:26,444
money, and their army wasn't

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00:33:26,444 --> 00:33:28,746
highly trained. Many of

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00:33:28,746 --> 00:33:30,313
washington's soldiers had wags

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for shoes and left blood in the

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00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:35,190
snow as they walked. Against

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00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:36,587
all odds, they won. This

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00:33:36,587 --> 00:33:39,587
country is the greatest country

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in the world. Only this country

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00:33:47,131 --> 00:33:49,000
can an immigrant like myself, a

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00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000
refugee, who fleed communism, is

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able to come to this country and

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be able to not only stand here

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buffer as a county supervisor

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the second time, but also to

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walk into the capitol of the

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state, the largest state of this

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00:34:06,729 --> 00:34:07,951
nation, to be a state senator.

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00:34:07,951 --> 00:34:10,951
Only this country would allow

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00:34:10,954 --> 00:34:13,191
someone like me to have that

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00:34:13,191 --> 00:34:15,591
opportunity. So freedom and

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00:34:15,626 --> 00:34:17,228
democracy is in my blood, but

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it's because I've been given

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00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:20,765
that opportunity and many, many

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00:34:20,765 --> 00:34:23,200
other immigrants have been given

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00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,600
that opportunity. And that's

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00:34:28,573 --> 00:34:30,973
why celebrating the semiquantity

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00:34:30,974 --> 00:34:33,374
centennial, the 250th birthday

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of america, so exciting, I would

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00:34:36,414 --> 00:34:37,949
like to thank usa 250oc and all

841
00:34:37,949 --> 00:34:39,950
of their hard-working volunteers

842
00:34:39,950 --> 00:34:42,152
who have been steadily messaging

843
00:34:42,152 --> 00:34:43,353
and holding events to celebrate

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00:34:43,353 --> 00:34:45,753
america's birthday. In fact,

845
00:34:48,458 --> 00:34:49,493
they would be hosting a free

846
00:34:49,493 --> 00:34:52,493
usa 250 concert on JUNE 30th

847
00:34:52,897 --> 00:34:54,699
at the richard nixon's library.

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00:34:54,699 --> 00:34:55,566
Concordia university will be

849
00:34:55,566 --> 00:34:57,835
celebrating the 99th birthday

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00:34:57,835 --> 00:34:59,237
of roger williams, an american

851
00:34:59,237 --> 00:35:01,637
musical legend. City of

852
00:35:02,174 --> 00:35:03,775
huntington beach will be hosting

853
00:35:03,775 --> 00:35:05,410
the largest 4th of JULY parade

854
00:35:05,410 --> 00:35:08,747
west of the mississippi. And so

855
00:35:08,747 --> 00:35:12,347
many other cities around -- I

856
00:35:12,784 --> 00:35:14,785
know also -- want to give a

857
00:35:14,785 --> 00:35:18,385
shout-out here to the mayor from

858
00:35:19,757 --> 00:35:21,459
santa ana, mayor valerie mez gu

859
00:35:21,459 --> 00:35:23,195
ras here, santa ana itself will

860
00:35:23,195 --> 00:35:24,496
also be celebrating. There's so

861
00:35:24,496 --> 00:35:26,896
many celebration across our

862
00:35:26,932 --> 00:35:27,932
counties and it's so exciting to

863
00:35:27,932 --> 00:35:28,900
see all of us coming together to

864
00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:31,300
celebrate the biggest birthday

865
00:35:31,336 --> 00:35:32,304
of america. I hope you can all

866
00:35:32,304 --> 00:35:34,706
dispeanld also join me as I

867
00:35:34,706 --> 00:35:36,740
mentioned in huntington beach

868
00:35:36,740 --> 00:35:37,409
with all of the parades and the

869
00:35:37,409 --> 00:35:40,409
fireworks all across our county.

870
00:35:46,918 --> 00:35:48,454
Thank you.

871
00:35:48,454 --> 00:35:51,454
>>speaker: well, thank all of

872
00:35:53,658 --> 00:35:54,592
you for this honor. Usa 250 oc

873
00:35:54,592 --> 00:35:56,527
is about everybody in orange

874
00:35:56,527 --> 00:35:58,329
county. Not about a group of

875
00:35:58,329 --> 00:35:59,864
people who got together about a

876
00:35:59,864 --> 00:36:00,742
year ago -- and in fact, we were

877
00:36:00,742 --> 00:36:03,742
before this board, talking about

878
00:36:06,103 --> 00:36:06,804
just having created usa 250 oc,

879
00:36:06,804 --> 00:36:08,573
and I think we're proud of one

880
00:36:08,573 --> 00:36:10,641
thing the most. It's that all

881
00:36:10,641 --> 00:36:13,770
five members of the board of

882
00:36:13,770 --> 00:36:15,180
supervisors have come on to this

883
00:36:15,180 --> 00:36:16,614
project as honorary co-chairs.

884
00:36:16,614 --> 00:36:18,916
That's very important to us

885
00:36:18,916 --> 00:36:21,353
because they represent all of

886
00:36:21,353 --> 00:36:22,420
you. When we started this, some

887
00:36:22,420 --> 00:36:25,420
people started saying, what are

888
00:36:25,689 --> 00:36:27,291
you planning for JULY 4th? We

889
00:36:27,291 --> 00:36:29,270
said nothing because that will

890
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:31,329
take care of itself. It always

891
00:36:31,329 --> 00:36:32,430
does, every city, every

892
00:36:32,430 --> 00:36:34,432
community, every business, every

893
00:36:34,432 --> 00:36:35,966
family a, they always do

894
00:36:35,966 --> 00:36:38,403
something great on JULY 4th.

895
00:36:38,403 --> 00:36:40,772
So we're not planning something

896
00:36:40,772 --> 00:36:43,675
on JULY 4th. Our goal was in

897
00:36:43,675 --> 00:36:45,177
the months leading up to

898
00:36:45,177 --> 00:36:46,945
JULY 4th and the months after

899
00:36:46,945 --> 00:36:50,545
is to encourage people to engage

900
00:36:50,615 --> 00:36:52,551
in our history, in our founding

901
00:36:52,551 --> 00:36:53,585
principles, in other words civic

902
00:36:53,585 --> 00:36:55,187
literacy, and also civility,

903
00:36:55,187 --> 00:36:57,155
where we can stop shouting at

904
00:36:57,155 --> 00:36:58,924
each other and start talking to

905
00:36:58,924 --> 00:37:00,359
each other, and even more

906
00:37:00,359 --> 00:37:01,326
important, listening to each

907
00:37:01,326 --> 00:37:03,562
other and learning from each

908
00:37:03,562 --> 00:37:04,963
other. So that's been our goal

909
00:37:04,963 --> 00:37:07,990
from the beginning, and to

910
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:08,233
partner with others. We've

911
00:37:08,233 --> 00:37:10,536
partnered with the orange county

912
00:37:10,536 --> 00:37:12,936
business council, arts orange

913
00:37:13,271 --> 00:37:14,773
county, the association of

914
00:37:14,773 --> 00:37:16,773
california cities, orange

915
00:37:17,740 --> 00:37:18,977
county. Orange county forum,

916
00:37:18,977 --> 00:37:20,345
the pacific symphony, concordia

917
00:37:20,345 --> 00:37:22,140
university. We've partnered

918
00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:24,783
with so many organizations to do

919
00:37:24,783 --> 00:37:26,618
one simple thing, say in the

920
00:37:26,618 --> 00:37:28,219
normal covers your business,

921
00:37:28,219 --> 00:37:29,720
whatever you usually do, whether

922
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,123
it's a concert or a panel

923
00:37:31,123 --> 00:37:32,423
discussion or speeches, whatever

924
00:37:32,423 --> 00:37:35,694
you do, make at least one of

925
00:37:35,694 --> 00:37:38,629
your programs during this year

926
00:37:38,629 --> 00:37:40,999
focus on america 250 on this

927
00:37:40,999 --> 00:37:42,567
250th anniversary. And so

928
00:37:42,567 --> 00:37:44,169
many things have happened. It's

929
00:37:44,169 --> 00:37:46,304
just been glorious to

930
00:37:46,304 --> 00:37:48,574
participate in these things with

931
00:37:48,574 --> 00:37:49,540
so many different thoughts and

932
00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:51,776
ideas, and people coming from

933
00:37:51,776 --> 00:37:53,445
different perspectives. One of

934
00:37:53,445 --> 00:37:56,180
the things that we did early on

935
00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:57,983
was to create a website. And I

936
00:37:57,983 --> 00:38:01,286
encourage you to go to it. It's

937
00:38:01,286 --> 00:38:03,354
real simple, usa 250/oc.Com.

938
00:38:03,354 --> 00:38:06,954
There are dozens and dozens and

939
00:38:07,993 --> 00:38:09,428
dozens of resources, a lot of

940
00:38:09,428 --> 00:38:11,530
creative, new material. But

941
00:38:11,530 --> 00:38:12,330
there is so much online already

942
00:38:12,330 --> 00:38:14,866
that people just don't know

943
00:38:14,866 --> 00:38:16,635
about. So I refer you to those

944
00:38:16,635 --> 00:38:20,104
things so that you can learn

945
00:38:20,104 --> 00:38:21,439
more about our history in short

946
00:38:21,439 --> 00:38:23,242
order without having to look it

947
00:38:23,242 --> 00:38:24,242
up for yourself. Also that

948
00:38:24,242 --> 00:38:26,378
website is in five languages,

949
00:38:26,378 --> 00:38:28,513
which makes us, again, very

950
00:38:28,513 --> 00:38:30,820
proud because we try to

951
00:38:30,820 --> 00:38:32,685
represent the great diversity of

952
00:38:32,685 --> 00:38:34,654
orange county. I would also

953
00:38:34,654 --> 00:38:37,990
like to thank the staff of all

954
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:40,990
five of the supervisor's office.

955
00:38:41,170 --> 00:38:41,349
Whenever I call them, need

956
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:41,561
something, want to share

957
00:38:41,561 --> 00:38:43,561
something, they're there,

958
00:38:43,729 --> 00:38:44,864
they're very helpful, and the

959
00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:46,298
supervisors should be very proud

960
00:38:46,298 --> 00:38:47,700
of their staff, and you should,

961
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,935
as well. Let me just mention a

962
00:38:49,935 --> 00:38:52,935
couple of things about history.

963
00:38:53,939 --> 00:38:56,274
From the very beginning, usa

964
00:38:56,274 --> 00:38:59,378
250 oc has taken on as our

965
00:38:59,378 --> 00:39:00,780
motto, so to speak, very simple

966
00:39:00,780 --> 00:39:02,478
statement. America is the

967
00:39:03,382 --> 00:39:06,184
perfect idea. The united states

968
00:39:06,184 --> 00:39:07,585
of america is a work in

969
00:39:07,585 --> 00:39:09,187
progress. Because what the

970
00:39:09,187 --> 00:39:11,223
founders gave us in that

971
00:39:11,223 --> 00:39:13,258
declaration of independence, the

972
00:39:13,258 --> 00:39:15,427
world had never seen before. It

973
00:39:15,427 --> 00:39:17,697
wasn't -- it was revolutionary.

974
00:39:17,697 --> 00:39:18,697
It was radical. People just

975
00:39:18,697 --> 00:39:20,232
could not believe that we were

976
00:39:20,232 --> 00:39:22,534
saying everyone is created

977
00:39:22,534 --> 00:39:24,336
equal. We have inalienable

978
00:39:24,336 --> 00:39:26,872
rights, every one of us, and

979
00:39:26,872 --> 00:39:28,473
that government is based on the

980
00:39:28,473 --> 00:39:30,909
consent of the governed. That

981
00:39:30,909 --> 00:39:33,512
was radical. And so as we look

982
00:39:33,512 --> 00:39:36,147
through history, we all think

983
00:39:36,147 --> 00:39:39,217
slavely was ended at end of the

984
00:39:39,217 --> 00:39:41,860
civil war. No, no, no. Slavery

985
00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:43,880
was ended in massachusetts in

986
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,157
1780 right in the middle of the

987
00:39:46,157 --> 00:39:47,626
revolutionary war by a female,

988
00:39:47,626 --> 00:39:49,295
black slave who read the

989
00:39:49,295 --> 00:39:51,695
declaration of independence, she

990
00:39:51,997 --> 00:39:53,733
read the brand-new constitution

991
00:39:53,733 --> 00:39:56,350
of massachusetts, which said all

992
00:39:56,350 --> 00:39:57,636
men are born free and equal, and

993
00:39:57,636 --> 00:40:00,605
she said, then how come I'm not?

994
00:40:00,605 --> 00:40:02,908
She had the audacity, the

995
00:40:02,908 --> 00:40:04,276
bravery to hire an attorney.

996
00:40:04,276 --> 00:40:07,245
They took it to court, and the

997
00:40:07,245 --> 00:40:09,315
jury of all white men found in

998
00:40:09,315 --> 00:40:11,917
her favor, and a year later,

999
00:40:11,917 --> 00:40:13,652
there were a couple other

1000
00:40:13,652 --> 00:40:14,920
cases -- got the massachusetts

1001
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,155
supreme court, and the supreme

1002
00:40:16,155 --> 00:40:18,555
court of massachusetts said

1003
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:22,250
slavery is incompatible with the

1004
00:40:23,696 --> 00:40:24,497
constitution of massachusetts;

1005
00:40:24,497 --> 00:40:25,465
therefore, slavery in

1006
00:40:25,465 --> 00:40:26,532
massachusetts is no longer

1007
00:40:26,532 --> 00:40:28,367
valid.

1008
00:40:28,367 --> 00:40:29,802
How did that woman get the

1009
00:40:29,802 --> 00:40:31,904
courage to do that? But she

1010
00:40:31,904 --> 00:40:33,406
did. And there are so many

1011
00:40:33,406 --> 00:40:34,700
stories like this through

1012
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:36,407
american history. That's why

1013
00:40:37,377 --> 00:40:39,780
when you look at the

1014
00:40:39,780 --> 00:40:41,478
abolitionist movement, when you

1015
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:43,515
look at sufficient from a gist

1016
00:40:43,515 --> 00:40:45,652
movement, rights for women, when

1017
00:40:45,652 --> 00:40:46,853
you look at the civil rights

1018
00:40:46,853 --> 00:40:48,855
movement, in the 1960s, every

1019
00:40:48,855 --> 00:40:49,588
one of those movements put as

1020
00:40:49,588 --> 00:40:51,988
their foundation stone the

1021
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,331
declaration of independence.

1022
00:40:56,331 --> 00:40:58,164
That's why it's important. And

1023
00:40:58,164 --> 00:40:59,765
if you haven't read it, read it.

1024
00:40:59,765 --> 00:41:01,200
It'll take you 10 minutes,

1025
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,502
probably less than that. And

1026
00:41:02,502 --> 00:41:03,303
just look at those paragraphs

1027
00:41:03,303 --> 00:41:05,737
about freedom. And I'd like to

1028
00:41:05,737 --> 00:41:06,706
close with this, there are so

1029
00:41:06,706 --> 00:41:08,273
many great statements about the

1030
00:41:08,273 --> 00:41:09,943
declaration, but my favorite

1031
00:41:09,943 --> 00:41:12,744
happened to occur 100 years ago

1032
00:41:12,744 --> 00:41:14,847
on the 150th anniversary of

1033
00:41:14,847 --> 00:41:16,349
the declaration of independence.

1034
00:41:16,349 --> 00:41:18,750
We had a PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT

1035
00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:20,485
Calvin coolidge, he was known as

1036
00:41:20,485 --> 00:41:22,588
silent cal, but when he spoke,

1037
00:41:22,588 --> 00:41:26,188
it meant something. And he gave

1038
00:41:26,658 --> 00:41:28,600
a speech on JULY 4th of 1926,

1039
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,230
and said something that

1040
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:32,598
resonates today. He said 100

1041
00:41:32,598 --> 00:41:34,701
years ago, people think that the

1042
00:41:34,701 --> 00:41:36,568
declaration is old-fashioned.

1043
00:41:36,568 --> 00:41:38,938
We need new ideas, we need

1044
00:41:38,938 --> 00:41:41,338
something more modern. Well,

1045
00:41:41,673 --> 00:41:43,309
today we say the same thing.

1046
00:41:43,309 --> 00:41:44,810
100 years later, well, we need

1047
00:41:44,810 --> 00:41:46,445
something more modern that is up

1048
00:41:46,445 --> 00:41:48,747
to date to meet our current

1049
00:41:48,747 --> 00:41:51,250
challenges, but what he said

1050
00:41:51,250 --> 00:41:53,860
after that is still valid today

1051
00:41:53,860 --> 00:41:54,721
and will be for eternity. And

1052
00:41:54,721 --> 00:41:57,189
I'd like to read it because I

1053
00:41:57,189 --> 00:41:58,858
love the way he said it. He

1054
00:41:58,858 --> 00:42:01,861
said, if all men are created

1055
00:42:01,861 --> 00:42:04,598
equal, that is final. If they

1056
00:42:04,598 --> 00:42:06,998
are endowed with inalienable

1057
00:42:07,234 --> 00:42:09,235
rights, that is final. If

1058
00:42:09,235 --> 00:42:10,971
governments derive their just

1059
00:42:10,971 --> 00:42:13,306
powers from the consent of the

1060
00:42:13,306 --> 00:42:15,706
governed, that is final.

1061
00:42:15,874 --> 00:42:17,944
There's no advance, no progress

1062
00:42:17,944 --> 00:42:20,379
can be made beyond these

1063
00:42:20,379 --> 00:42:22,779
propositions. If anyone wishes

1064
00:42:23,483 --> 00:42:25,518
to deny their truth, the only

1065
00:42:25,518 --> 00:42:26,419
direction in which he can

1066
00:42:26,419 --> 00:42:28,819
proceed historically is not

1067
00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:31,570
forward, but backward, backward

1068
00:42:31,570 --> 00:42:34,194
toward the time when there was

1069
00:42:34,194 --> 00:42:36,162
no equality, no rights of the

1070
00:42:36,162 --> 00:42:37,297
individual, no rule of the

1071
00:42:37,297 --> 00:42:39,566
people. Those who wish to

1072
00:42:39,566 --> 00:42:42,468
proceed in that direction cannot

1073
00:42:42,468 --> 00:42:44,737
lay claim to progress. They are

1074
00:42:44,737 --> 00:42:46,806
reactionary. If there is any

1075
00:42:46,806 --> 00:42:48,410
failure in respect to any of

1076
00:42:48,410 --> 00:42:50,643
these principles, it is because

1077
00:42:50,643 --> 00:42:52,612
of the failure on the part of

1078
00:42:52,612 --> 00:42:55,481
individuals. That's us -- to

1079
00:42:55,481 --> 00:42:57,817
observe them. So, remember,

1080
00:42:57,817 --> 00:42:59,318
we're equal. We have

1081
00:42:59,318 --> 00:43:00,820
inalienable rights, and

1082
00:43:00,820 --> 00:43:02,820
government, including the

1083
00:43:03,690 --> 00:43:05,491
government sthiedged me, rest on

1084
00:43:05,491 --> 00:43:07,593
our consent. So let's learn

1085
00:43:07,593 --> 00:43:09,429
about this, let's talk to each

1086
00:43:09,429 --> 00:43:11,631
other. Let's share these

1087
00:43:11,631 --> 00:43:14,468
thoughts and work together to

1088
00:43:14,468 --> 00:43:16,100
continue to form what the

1089
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:17,837
constitution said, a more

1090
00:43:17,837 --> 00:43:19,380
perfect union. And I thank the

1091
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:21,380
supervisors for commemorating

1092
00:43:37,491 --> 00:43:39,491
america 250.

1093
00:43:42,962 --> 00:43:45,366
>>don wagner: if my history is

1094
00:43:45,366 --> 00:43:47,501
right, the continental congress

1095
00:43:47,501 --> 00:43:48,502
voted JULY 22nd. John adams

1096
00:43:48,502 --> 00:43:50,360
even wrote to his wife. That

1097
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,205
will be the day that we all

1098
00:43:52,205 --> 00:43:54,605
remember. Jefferson's draft was

1099
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:55,676
not ready JULY 2nd, nor is the

1100
00:43:55,676 --> 00:43:58,676
proclamation we were going to

1101
00:44:00,647 --> 00:44:02,749
give today. JULY 4th,

1102
00:44:02,749 --> 00:44:05,149
jefferson was finally ready.

1103
00:44:05,185 --> 00:44:07,721
That's the day we celebrate, and

1104
00:44:07,721 --> 00:44:09,189
joelle, I promise a resolution

1105
00:44:09,189 --> 00:44:12,590
from all of us is coming, but

1106
00:44:12,590 --> 00:44:15,590
like jefferson, it's in the

1107
00:44:24,604 --> 00:44:26,604
works.

1108
00:45:14,354 --> 00:45:15,889
>>don wagner: if only

1109
00:45:15,889 --> 00:45:18,224
jefferson's staff was that good,

1110
00:45:18,224 --> 00:45:18,781
we might have celebrated

1111
00:45:18,781 --> 00:45:19,526
JULY 22nd

1112
00:45:19,526 --> 00:45:21,295
>>chair, doug chaffee: we need

1113
00:45:21,295 --> 00:45:22,658
to be good to start our meeting,

1114
00:45:22,658 --> 00:45:23,463
whether I happen in about 10

1115
00:45:23,463 --> 00:45:24,498
minutes. Thank you all for

1116
00:45:24,498 --> 00:45:27,498
being patient and working with

1117
00:45:38,212 --> 00:45:40,612
us with these presentations.

1118
00:59:57,641 --> 01:00:01,841
DR. Shaikh to the dais to join

1119
01:01:13,785 --> 01:01:14,518
>>chair, doug chaffee: good

1120
01:01:14,518 --> 01:01:16,918
morning, again. It's my

1121
01:01:18,422 --> 01:01:20,910
pleasure to call our meeting

1122
01:01:20,910 --> 01:01:21,559
today for the board of

1123
01:01:21,559 --> 01:01:23,959
supervisors which technically is

1124
01:01:26,831 --> 01:01:27,732
JUNE 23, 2026 to order. The

1125
01:01:27,732 --> 01:01:29,300
meeting will begin today with

1126
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:30,969
the invocations offered by

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supervisor nguyen and the pledge

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01:01:33,138 --> 01:01:35,106
of allegiance will follow led by

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verse chair foley. If you're

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01:01:45,884 --> 01:01:47,585
able to stand, please do so.

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01:01:47,585 --> 01:01:49,655
>>janet nguyen: please bow your

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01:01:49,655 --> 01:01:50,755
head and join me, dear heavenly

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01:01:50,755 --> 01:01:53,692
father, thank you for america

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01:01:53,692 --> 01:01:55,827
and thank you for this year's

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01:01:55,827 --> 01:01:56,760
semiquinn centennial

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01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,160
celebration, 250 years ago our

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01:01:59,763 --> 01:02:01,466
nation was formed declaring all

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01:02:01,466 --> 01:02:03,368
people are created equal with

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01:02:03,368 --> 01:02:05,303
certain GOD-given light it in

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01:02:05,303 --> 01:02:06,237
cannot be taken away, among them

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01:02:06,237 --> 01:02:08,339
life, liberty, and the pursuit

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01:02:08,339 --> 01:02:09,940
of happiness. We are also

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01:02:09,940 --> 01:02:11,443
reminded that government gets

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01:02:11,443 --> 01:02:13,477
its power from the consent of

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01:02:13,477 --> 01:02:15,246
the governed. Help us in the

1146
01:02:15,246 --> 01:02:16,914
governance the budget we passed

1147
01:02:16,914 --> 01:02:19,500
today was set forth for the path

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01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:21,453
for our county for the year

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01:02:21,453 --> 01:02:24,889
ahead, MAY we be wise with what

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01:02:24,889 --> 01:02:26,690
we've been given and faithful to

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01:02:26,690 --> 01:02:28,225
those it serves. In your name

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01:02:28,225 --> 01:02:28,959
we pray. Amen

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01:02:28,959 --> 01:02:31,610
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: good

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01:02:31,610 --> 01:02:34,661
morning. At this point I'd like

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01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:37,435
to invite celoni, who is a

1156
01:02:37,435 --> 01:02:39,835
saddleback college student, who

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01:02:41,973 --> 01:02:44,175
is pursuing a degree in biology

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01:02:44,175 --> 01:02:46,578
and aspires to be a vocal

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01:02:46,578 --> 01:02:48,245
performer and she will lead us

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01:02:48,245 --> 01:02:51,783
in the national anthem and a

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01:02:51,783 --> 01:02:54,183
pledge that will follow.

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01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,406
[Singing the national anthem]

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01:04:16,334 --> 01:04:17,168
[Applause]

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01:04:17,168 --> 01:04:20,168
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

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01:04:20,172 --> 01:04:23,172
you. As we celebrate america

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01:04:23,809 --> 01:04:24,909
250 and many of our flag day

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01:04:24,909 --> 01:04:26,911
presentations across the county,

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01:04:26,911 --> 01:04:28,746
I ask that you all think about

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01:04:28,746 --> 01:04:32,583
what does the flag mean to you,

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01:04:32,583 --> 01:04:34,986
to me it's a symbol of

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01:04:34,986 --> 01:04:36,986
opportunity, justice, equality

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01:04:37,623 --> 01:04:40,623
and charity. Please say with

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01:04:45,396 --> 01:04:46,824
me, I pledge allegiance...

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01:04:46,824 --> 01:04:48,567
To the flag of the united states

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01:04:48,567 --> 01:04:50,869
of america, and to the republic

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01:04:50,869 --> 01:04:52,405
for which it stands. 81 nation,

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01:04:52,405 --> 01:04:54,805
under GOD, indivisible, with

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01:04:55,508 --> 01:04:57,420
liberty and justice for all.

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01:04:57,420 --> 01:04:58,510
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

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01:04:58,510 --> 01:05:00,910
you, supervisor nguyen and

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01:05:05,984 --> 01:05:07,586
vice-chair foley. There are a

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01:05:07,586 --> 01:05:08,554
couple of reminders as to the

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01:05:08,554 --> 01:05:11,558
conduct of the meeting. If I

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01:05:11,558 --> 01:05:15,158
MAY explain some of those at

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01:05:20,733 --> 01:05:22,733
this time...

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01:05:23,936 --> 01:05:25,438
Please use the main entrance for

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01:05:25,438 --> 01:05:29,380
exiting if you need to because

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01:05:29,142 --> 01:05:31,343
all of the other doors are

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01:05:31,343 --> 01:05:33,312
alarmed and for emergency exit

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01:05:33,312 --> 01:05:36,182
only. Please set all phones at

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01:05:36,182 --> 01:05:40,520
this time to mute or vibrate and

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01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,954
for the duration of the meeting.

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01:05:42,954 --> 01:05:45,900
A lives today's changes to

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01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:46,292
today's agenda along with the

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01:05:46,292 --> 01:05:49,292
agendas and requests to speak

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01:05:49,427 --> 01:05:51,827
are located outside the

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01:06:02,974 --> 01:06:04,509
boardroom. Parking validation

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01:06:04,509 --> 01:06:05,478
for the p4 parking lot is

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available. Please see the

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01:06:07,413 --> 01:06:08,814
deputy clerk next to the podium

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01:06:08,814 --> 01:06:10,448
and you'll get a parking

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01:06:10,448 --> 01:06:11,950
validation card. Now I'll

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01:06:11,950 --> 01:06:13,618
proceed to the agenda for this

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01:06:13,618 --> 01:06:15,253
morning's meeting. This agenda

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01:06:15,253 --> 01:06:16,688
contains a brief description of

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01:06:16,688 --> 01:06:18,824
each item to be considered,

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01:06:18,824 --> 01:06:20,625
except as otherwise provided by

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01:06:20,625 --> 01:06:24,225
law, such as an emergency. No

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01:06:24,463 --> 01:06:26,598
action maybe taken in an item

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01:06:26,598 --> 01:06:27,199
not appearing on today's agenda.

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01:06:27,199 --> 01:06:28,670
The sagged divided into

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01:06:28,670 --> 01:06:30,636
sections. All matters on the

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01:06:30,636 --> 01:06:32,370
consent calendar are approved by

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01:06:32,370 --> 01:06:34,306
one mowing, a support member, a

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01:06:34,306 --> 01:06:35,174
member of the public MAY request

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01:06:35,174 --> 01:06:36,676
separate action on a specific

1217
01:06:36,676 --> 01:06:39,120
item. If you wish to address

1218
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,130
the board, please complete a

1219
01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:42,281
speaker request form and give it

1220
01:06:42,281 --> 01:06:45,985
to the clerk next to the podium.

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01:06:45,985 --> 01:06:46,786
And to ensure smooth conduct at

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01:06:46,786 --> 01:06:48,421
meetings, speaker request forms

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01:06:48,421 --> 01:06:49,822
must be received prior to the

1224
01:06:49,822 --> 01:06:52,580
calling of the item such as

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01:06:52,580 --> 01:06:54,260
scent calendar, the reading of

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01:06:54,260 --> 01:06:56,696
the individual agenda items or

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01:06:56,696 --> 01:06:58,264
at the beginning of public

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01:06:58,264 --> 01:06:59,650
comments. Speakers MAY address

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01:06:59,650 --> 01:07:01,167
the board on up to three

1230
01:07:01,167 --> 01:07:03,569
occasions because a large number

1231
01:07:03,569 --> 01:07:05,872
of speaker requests we will

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01:07:05,872 --> 01:07:07,407
limit it to one minute per

1233
01:07:07,407 --> 01:07:08,975
speaker today. When you're

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01:07:08,975 --> 01:07:12,145
called to speak, please step up

1235
01:07:12,145 --> 01:07:13,513
to the podium because you state

1236
01:07:13,513 --> 01:07:14,947
your name and city of residence

1237
01:07:14,947 --> 01:07:16,381
for the record. Please note the

1238
01:07:16,381 --> 01:07:18,684
light on the podium. The green

1239
01:07:18,684 --> 01:07:20,319
light means you have 1 minute.

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01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:22,880
The light changes to red when

1241
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,356
your time has expired. We ask

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01:07:24,356 --> 01:07:25,558
that you observe the time limit

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01:07:25,558 --> 01:07:28,930
so that all who wish to speak

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01:07:28,930 --> 01:07:31,263
will have an opportunity do so.

1245
01:07:31,263 --> 01:07:31,930
Addressing the board, please

1246
01:07:31,930 --> 01:07:35,530
address the board as a whole

1247
01:07:36,569 --> 01:07:38,104
through the chair. We have some

1248
01:07:38,104 --> 01:07:39,772
adjustments to the calendar.

1249
01:07:39,772 --> 01:07:40,906
I've tried to go through some of

1250
01:07:40,906 --> 01:07:43,542
this very long agenda and group

1251
01:07:43,542 --> 01:07:44,844
some items so we can move

1252
01:07:44,844 --> 01:07:47,313
expeditiously. We do have some

1253
01:07:47,313 --> 01:07:49,582
unusual things happening today.

1254
01:07:49,582 --> 01:07:50,315
Before we take up the consent

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01:07:50,315 --> 01:07:53,315
calendar, which will be our

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01:07:54,530 --> 01:07:54,720
first item, we received a

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01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:55,754
special request for

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01:07:55,754 --> 01:07:57,754
accommodation for public

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01:07:58,691 --> 01:08:01,910
comments. And county counsel,

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01:08:01,103 --> 01:08:01,667
would you explain that, too,

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01:08:01,667 --> 01:08:02,728
please?

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01:08:02,728 --> 01:08:04,129
>>leon page: thank you,

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01:08:04,129 --> 01:08:05,965
MR. CHAIRMAN., so yes, under

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01:08:05,965 --> 01:08:08,660
the brown act a legislative body

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01:08:08,660 --> 01:08:10,236
such as the board of supervisors

1266
01:08:10,236 --> 01:08:11,971
is required to have in place a

1267
01:08:11,971 --> 01:08:13,906
prompt mechanism for resolving

1268
01:08:13,906 --> 01:08:15,475
request for accommodations under

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01:08:15,475 --> 01:08:17,676
the americans with disabilities

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01:08:17,676 --> 01:08:19,378
act and a member of the public

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01:08:19,378 --> 01:08:20,713
did identify -- I believe it's

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01:08:20,713 --> 01:08:22,415
four individuals, who are

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01:08:22,415 --> 01:08:23,350
seeking an accommodation today.

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01:08:23,350 --> 01:08:24,117
So it's certainly my

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01:08:24,117 --> 01:08:26,152
recommendation to the board that

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01:08:26,152 --> 01:08:26,954
we resolve that matter quickly

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01:08:26,954 --> 01:08:29,189
and allow those members of the

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01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:30,900
public to have their 1 minute so

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01:08:30,900 --> 01:08:31,240
they're not required to wait in

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01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,580
the room all day

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01:08:32,580 --> 01:08:34,458
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

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01:08:34,728 --> 01:08:37,630
you, counsel. After we hear

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01:08:37,630 --> 01:08:39,299
from those speakers, I'll ask

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01:08:39,299 --> 01:08:40,900
the clerk to identify any

1285
01:08:40,900 --> 01:08:41,968
changes to the agenda and then

1286
01:08:41,968 --> 01:08:44,370
any requests to the public to

1287
01:08:44,370 --> 01:08:46,239
hear an item on the consent

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01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:47,974
calendar separately. MADAM

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01:08:47,974 --> 01:08:48,575
Clerk, will you please call

1290
01:08:48,575 --> 01:08:50,176
speakers that requested

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01:08:50,176 --> 01:08:52,412
accommodation at this time

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01:08:52,412 --> 01:08:54,648
>>clerk, robin stieler: heidi

1293
01:08:54,648 --> 01:08:57,584
zimmerman, michael deal, and be

1294
01:08:57,584 --> 01:08:59,984
kevin williams, first three

1295
01:09:03,122 --> 01:09:05,122
speakers.

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01:09:06,859 --> 01:09:08,661
>>speaker: my name is heidi

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01:09:08,661 --> 01:09:09,995
zimmerman. I'm PRESIDENT Of

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01:09:09,995 --> 01:09:11,995
omus angel foundation.

1299
01:09:12,933 --> 01:09:14,933
Unfortunately, we're currently

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01:09:15,234 --> 01:09:16,903
in litigation against the county

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01:09:16,903 --> 01:09:19,303
regarding the inhumane condition

1302
01:09:20,974 --> 01:09:23,208
of the shelters. I'm here today

1303
01:09:23,208 --> 01:09:26,208
because I'm begging for some

1304
01:09:26,745 --> 01:09:27,746
answers for my friends who are

1305
01:09:27,746 --> 01:09:30,483
disabled and being exited from

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01:09:30,483 --> 01:09:32,385
their housing in the next week.

1307
01:09:32,385 --> 01:09:33,919
I have got michael deal, who has

1308
01:09:33,919 --> 01:09:36,560
a bullet in his head, who's

1309
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,457
prone to seizures and strokes

1310
01:09:38,457 --> 01:09:40,250
being exited in a week. I also

1311
01:09:40,250 --> 01:09:41,628
have kevin williams, who is

1312
01:09:41,628 --> 01:09:43,730
legally blind and just suffered

1313
01:09:43,730 --> 01:09:45,599
a hip fracture. I also have

1314
01:09:45,599 --> 01:09:48,167
michael laster here, too. So

1315
01:09:48,167 --> 01:09:49,668
GOD bless you for giving us

1316
01:09:49,668 --> 01:09:51,637
special accommodations. I'm

1317
01:09:51,637 --> 01:09:54,340
begging you, please give me an

1318
01:09:54,340 --> 01:09:55,442
answer besides calling 211 on

1319
01:09:55,442 --> 01:09:57,443
what we can do with these folks

1320
01:09:57,443 --> 01:09:57,977
who will be exited into the

1321
01:09:57,977 --> 01:09:59,145
streets while everyone is

1322
01:09:59,145 --> 01:10:00,646
celebrating 4th of JULY, I'm

1323
01:10:00,646 --> 01:10:02,248
going to be worried what my

1324
01:10:02,248 --> 01:10:03,716
blind friends are going to be

1325
01:10:03,716 --> 01:10:04,284
doing in the streets

1326
01:10:04,284 --> 01:10:05,386
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1327
01:10:05,386 --> 01:10:08,155
you. MAY we have the next

1328
01:10:08,155 --> 01:10:10,155
speaker, please.

1329
01:10:10,791 --> 01:10:12,926
>>speaker: my name is michael

1330
01:10:12,926 --> 01:10:13,961
dale. I would like to request

1331
01:10:13,961 --> 01:10:17,431
at least an hour of time from

1332
01:10:17,431 --> 01:10:20,634
one of y'all board members and

1333
01:10:20,634 --> 01:10:22,803
maybe the attorney. I have an

1334
01:10:22,803 --> 01:10:24,637
idea for a program that could

1335
01:10:24,637 --> 01:10:26,637
actually end homelessness

1336
01:10:27,507 --> 01:10:28,341
entirely. This will require the

1337
01:10:28,341 --> 01:10:30,744
attorney and board members to

1338
01:10:30,744 --> 01:10:32,179
meet with me. Due to my medical

1339
01:10:32,179 --> 01:10:33,713
condition, the lighting from

1340
01:10:33,713 --> 01:10:35,448
the -- the fluoresce enter

1341
01:10:35,448 --> 01:10:38,252
lighting will make me ill, so

1342
01:10:38,252 --> 01:10:40,354
I'm trying to make as quickly as

1343
01:10:40,354 --> 01:10:42,189
possible. This is a topic

1344
01:10:42,189 --> 01:10:43,589
that's been going on for over 10

1345
01:10:43,589 --> 01:10:45,725
years, and it's not getting

1346
01:10:45,725 --> 01:10:47,327
anywhere. So everything that i

1347
01:10:47,327 --> 01:10:49,663
will be talking about in this

1348
01:10:49,663 --> 01:10:51,364
meeting is based off of

1349
01:10:51,364 --> 01:10:54,364
firsthand experience and from my

1350
01:10:54,901 --> 01:10:56,804
own personal research. I

1351
01:10:56,804 --> 01:11:01,400
estimate out of a 16-year run I

1352
01:11:05,145 --> 01:11:07,180
could save this state $341,280.

1353
01:11:07,180 --> 01:11:08,281
If you guys can make the time to

1354
01:11:08,281 --> 01:11:09,783
have this meeting with me, I'm

1355
01:11:09,783 --> 01:11:13,383
going to have to excuse myself

1356
01:11:13,987 --> 01:11:16,623
from the lighting. Please give

1357
01:11:16,623 --> 01:11:18,859
that information to MS. Heidi

1358
01:11:18,859 --> 01:11:21,600
zimmerman. And I've never

1359
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:22,229
missed a voat boat. I was a

1360
01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:23,529
deep sea diver for 17 years

1361
01:11:23,529 --> 01:11:24,464
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1362
01:11:24,464 --> 01:11:26,464
you, sir

1363
01:11:27,401 --> 01:11:28,340
>>speaker: I will be there oh

1364
01:11:28,340 --> 01:11:30,434
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1365
01:11:31,170 --> 01:11:31,872
you, sir. MAY we have the next

1366
01:11:31,872 --> 01:11:33,339
speaker please

1367
01:11:33,339 --> 01:11:36,339
>>speaker: yes, sir. Thank you

1368
01:11:43,283 --> 01:11:45,283
for your time.

1369
01:11:45,619 --> 01:11:47,187
>>speaker: hi, good morning.

1370
01:11:47,187 --> 01:11:50,157
Hi, good morning. I'll make

1371
01:11:50,157 --> 01:11:52,793
this very, very brief. I am

1372
01:11:52,793 --> 01:11:55,793
kevin williams. I am legally

1373
01:11:57,130 --> 01:11:59,534
blind and have suffered a hip

1374
01:11:59,534 --> 01:12:02,503
fracture, requiring me to use a

1375
01:12:02,503 --> 01:12:05,306
walker to get around. And I

1376
01:12:05,306 --> 01:12:06,407
thank you so very much for your

1377
01:12:06,407 --> 01:12:08,109
time.

1378
01:12:08,109 --> 01:12:10,343
>>speaker: please help him he's

1379
01:12:10,343 --> 01:12:11,645
being exited on monday with no

1380
01:12:11,645 --> 01:12:13,347
accommodations. The shelters

1381
01:12:13,347 --> 01:12:14,515
are full. There's a six-month

1382
01:12:14,515 --> 01:12:15,782
waiting list. The waiting list

1383
01:12:15,782 --> 01:12:16,450
for the house something full.

1384
01:12:16,450 --> 01:12:18,419
Please help us

1385
01:12:18,419 --> 01:12:18,753
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1386
01:12:18,753 --> 01:12:20,753
you.

1387
01:12:21,856 --> 01:12:23,157
>>clerk, robin stieler: last two

1388
01:12:23,157 --> 01:12:26,157
speakers are michael laster and

1389
01:12:34,567 --> 01:12:36,567
john underwood.

1390
01:12:36,903 --> 01:12:39,506
>>speaker: yes. My name is

1391
01:12:39,506 --> 01:12:41,641
michael laster, and I was just

1392
01:12:41,641 --> 01:12:44,641
informed that because I haven't

1393
01:12:45,379 --> 01:12:48,515
rented a place or have bills in

1394
01:12:48,515 --> 01:12:50,917
my name, I have no ties to

1395
01:12:50,917 --> 01:12:52,180
anywhere in orange county. I am

1396
01:12:52,180 --> 01:12:54,955
in a shelter right now because i

1397
01:12:54,955 --> 01:12:57,580
had to go to the hospital after

1398
01:12:57,580 --> 01:12:58,590
living in my car and having an

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01:12:58,590 --> 01:13:00,827
infection in my leg. I was able

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01:13:00,827 --> 01:13:04,664
to get into a shelter where it

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01:13:04,664 --> 01:13:06,367
takes me three hours, morning,

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01:13:06,367 --> 01:13:10,400
noon and night, just to get my

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01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,539
regular meds to be able to

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01:13:12,539 --> 01:13:14,174
function. And they tell us we

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01:13:14,174 --> 01:13:17,174
should just be grateful for

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01:13:18,545 --> 01:13:21,415
having a house to live in. But

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01:13:21,415 --> 01:13:23,250
people are suffering and are

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01:13:23,250 --> 01:13:26,787
walking away because of how long

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01:13:26,787 --> 01:13:28,488
it takes us to get our meds.

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01:13:28,488 --> 01:13:30,791
And it just gets worse and worse

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01:13:30,791 --> 01:13:33,927
every day, and when we try to

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01:13:33,927 --> 01:13:35,663
talk, they just ignore us.

1413
01:13:35,663 --> 01:13:36,430
Thank you.

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01:13:36,430 --> 01:13:38,830
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1415
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:41,199
you, sir.

1416
01:13:43,638 --> 01:13:45,239
>>speaker: the illumination

1417
01:13:45,239 --> 01:13:47,575
foundation recoup care fullerton

1418
01:13:47,575 --> 01:13:47,809
is not giving out the meds

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01:13:47,809 --> 01:13:49,210
properly

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01:13:49,210 --> 01:13:50,511
>>chair, doug chaffee: is there

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01:13:50,511 --> 01:13:50,844
anyone else who needs an

1422
01:13:50,844 --> 01:13:51,412
accommodation

1423
01:13:51,412 --> 01:13:53,812
>>clerk, robin stieler: one

1424
01:14:01,321 --> 01:14:02,290
more. John underwood.

1425
01:14:02,290 --> 01:14:04,690
>>speaker: ladies and gentlemen

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01:14:04,725 --> 01:14:07,594
of the board, I'm a journalist

1427
01:14:07,594 --> 01:14:09,864
by trade but I am an advocate --

1428
01:14:09,864 --> 01:14:10,898
have been an advocate for the

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01:14:10,898 --> 01:14:13,734
unhoused and forgotten of orange

1430
01:14:13,734 --> 01:14:16,134
county since the riverbed

1431
01:14:16,137 --> 01:14:18,339
roll-ups of 2018. I'm just here

1432
01:14:18,339 --> 01:14:20,700
to attest to the stories and the

1433
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:21,909
facts that have been brought to

1434
01:14:21,909 --> 01:14:24,945
you today. I can tell you that

1435
01:14:24,945 --> 01:14:29,145
they are just the tip of an

1436
01:14:29,884 --> 01:14:31,351
iceberg of individuals in very

1437
01:14:31,351 --> 01:14:34,254
similar donees these here who

1438
01:14:34,254 --> 01:14:35,455
are being hemorrhaged back to

1439
01:14:35,455 --> 01:14:37,592
the streets from what they

1440
01:14:37,592 --> 01:14:39,592
thought were accommodated

1441
01:14:39,793 --> 01:14:41,793
placements and permanent

1442
01:14:41,930 --> 01:14:43,310
supportive housing. Mostly with

1443
01:14:43,310 --> 01:14:45,133
supportive services they never

1444
01:14:45,133 --> 01:14:47,568
got. And now they're going back

1445
01:14:47,568 --> 01:14:50,305
to the street, often even

1446
01:14:50,305 --> 01:14:51,973
stripped of their housing choice

1447
01:14:51,973 --> 01:14:54,441
vouchers and reduced to the

1448
01:14:54,441 --> 01:14:57,277
street without even an option

1449
01:14:57,277 --> 01:14:59,246
for them to consider in terms of

1450
01:14:59,246 --> 01:15:02,150
placement. This is a travesty

1451
01:15:02,150 --> 01:15:04,252
on top of a catastrophe. I hope

1452
01:15:04,252 --> 01:15:04,421
you all can pay attention to

1453
01:15:04,421 --> 01:15:05,220
this

1454
01:15:05,220 --> 01:15:05,854
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1455
01:15:05,854 --> 01:15:06,687
you, sir

1456
01:15:06,687 --> 01:15:08,155
>>speaker: get out from your

1457
01:15:08,155 --> 01:15:09,590
share ands go to the street, and

1458
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:09,790
you will see what we're talking

1459
01:15:09,790 --> 01:15:10,357
about

1460
01:15:10,357 --> 01:15:12,757
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1461
01:15:13,528 --> 01:15:15,730
you, sir. Was that -- does that

1462
01:15:15,730 --> 01:15:16,297
conclude our come daiive needs

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01:15:16,297 --> 01:15:18,132
>>clerk, robin stieler: yes

1464
01:15:18,132 --> 01:15:19,660
>>chair, doug chaffee: there's a

1465
01:15:19,660 --> 01:15:20,401
comment from supervisor foley

1466
01:15:20,401 --> 01:15:21,870
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: if we

1467
01:15:21,870 --> 01:15:23,338
had someone from care and

1468
01:15:23,338 --> 01:15:24,339
coordination in the audience, if

1469
01:15:24,339 --> 01:15:26,800
you could reach out to speak

1470
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:27,342
with MS. Zimmerman and the

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01:15:27,342 --> 01:15:29,100
individuals who have housing

1472
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:30,979
concerns or if there's someone

1473
01:15:30,979 --> 01:15:31,914
from health care agency, if

1474
01:15:31,914 --> 01:15:34,914
somebody could talk with them

1475
01:15:35,150 --> 01:15:36,170
today while they're here, that'd

1476
01:15:36,170 --> 01:15:38,170
be great

1477
01:15:38,530 --> 01:15:40,453
>>chair, doug chaffee: MADAM

1478
01:15:41,890 --> 01:15:44,890
Ceo. Before MADAM Clerk --

1479
01:15:47,863 --> 01:15:48,496
mirkz if I MAY?

1480
01:15:48,496 --> 01:15:51,496
>>v. Chair, mitch mashburn: if

1481
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,435
I MAY. I'm already in contact

1482
01:15:53,435 --> 01:15:55,437
with doug becht as it relates to

1483
01:15:55,437 --> 01:15:56,872
our speakers here. He's also

1484
01:15:56,872 --> 01:15:58,139
aware. He heard the comments

1485
01:15:58,139 --> 01:16:01,739
and will be reaching out. So

1486
01:16:07,249 --> 01:16:10,117
thank you.. There are two more

1487
01:16:10,117 --> 01:16:11,180
items before we come back to

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01:16:11,180 --> 01:16:12,186
MADAM Clerk with the changes to

1489
01:16:12,186 --> 01:16:13,921
the agenda. Supervisor wagner

1490
01:16:13,921 --> 01:16:14,955
>>don wagner: thank you,

1491
01:16:14,955 --> 01:16:19,155
MR. CHAIRMAN. I do want to take

1492
01:16:25,340 --> 01:16:26,934
a moment to recognize some of

1493
01:16:26,934 --> 01:16:29,334
the hard-working members from

1494
01:16:30,271 --> 01:16:31,772
our public works department who

1495
01:16:31,772 --> 01:16:34,172
recently received praise from

1496
01:16:34,208 --> 01:16:36,343
the local community in yorba

1497
01:16:36,343 --> 01:16:37,178
lynda for their work

1498
01:16:37,178 --> 01:16:39,281
beautification project in a

1499
01:16:39,281 --> 01:16:40,415
small pocket within the city.

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01:16:40,415 --> 01:16:42,383
Members of the community reached

1501
01:16:42,383 --> 01:16:43,117
out to my office for the

1502
01:16:43,117 --> 01:16:43,985
responsiveness, the

1503
01:16:43,985 --> 01:16:44,919
professionalism and care

1504
01:16:44,919 --> 01:16:47,621
dedicated to this project and

1505
01:16:47,621 --> 01:16:48,189
requested that our public works

1506
01:16:48,189 --> 01:16:49,557
professionals be publically

1507
01:16:49,557 --> 01:16:51,459
recognized for their hard work,

1508
01:16:51,459 --> 01:16:52,293
something the ceo and I are

1509
01:16:52,293 --> 01:16:53,561
absolutely happy to do. I'd

1510
01:16:53,561 --> 01:16:54,930
like to acknowledge the

1511
01:16:54,930 --> 01:16:56,930
following public works

1512
01:16:56,932 --> 01:16:58,533
professionals and extend the

1513
01:16:58,533 --> 01:17:00,135
gratitude of the community for

1514
01:17:00,135 --> 01:17:01,670
their hard work on cleaning up

1515
01:17:01,670 --> 01:17:04,706
the area. And if you're here,

1516
01:17:04,706 --> 01:17:06,908
stand up as I call your name.

1517
01:17:06,908 --> 01:17:09,308
From our maintenance inspection

1518
01:17:09,344 --> 01:17:12,344
team, we have eddie perez,

1519
01:17:13,181 --> 01:17:14,716
carlos serrano, alejandro

1520
01:17:14,716 --> 01:17:17,116
villegas, maurice ortise and

1521
01:17:17,686 --> 01:17:20,656
chris ruiz. From the equipment

1522
01:17:20,656 --> 01:17:23,560
operation's team, joe barboa,

1523
01:17:24,793 --> 01:17:27,193
richard taylor, steve rochoa,

1524
01:17:30,565 --> 01:17:32,965
edward molina, jose higareda,

1525
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:36,138
esteban zamora, omar, pedro

1526
01:17:36,138 --> 01:17:38,138
guerrero, isidore cortez,

1527
01:17:39,341 --> 01:17:41,900
brandon morgan and eric

1528
01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:43,278
bozinski. Gentlemen, thank you

1529
01:17:43,278 --> 01:17:44,947
so much on behalf of the yorba

1530
01:17:44,947 --> 01:17:46,914
lynda community --

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01:17:46,914 --> 01:17:48,914
[Applause]

1532
01:17:50,652 --> 01:17:52,888
>>don wagner: all right. Yeah.

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01:17:52,888 --> 01:17:54,689
On behalf of the yorba lynda

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01:17:54,689 --> 01:17:57,250
community that I am privileged

1535
01:17:57,250 --> 01:17:57,825
to represent, and I take the

1536
01:17:57,825 --> 01:17:59,762
liberty of speaking for the

1537
01:17:59,762 --> 01:18:00,762
entire board, we thank you for

1538
01:18:00,762 --> 01:18:01,729
your professionalism, your

1539
01:18:01,729 --> 01:18:03,699
dedication to preserving the

1540
01:18:03,699 --> 01:18:05,500
quality of life for our

1541
01:18:05,500 --> 01:18:06,702
residents in orange county, and

1542
01:18:06,702 --> 01:18:08,504
I think -- she's back there with

1543
01:18:08,504 --> 01:18:10,738
you. I think the ceo wanted to

1544
01:18:10,738 --> 01:18:12,274
say something. Thank you, all,

1545
01:18:12,274 --> 01:18:14,274
gentlemen. It's greatly,

1546
01:18:35,196 --> 01:18:36,970
greatly appreciated.

1547
01:18:36,970 --> 01:18:37,498
>>michelle aguirre: I was just

1548
01:18:37,498 --> 01:18:38,533
telling the gentlemen that I

1549
01:18:38,533 --> 01:18:40,635
know how hard they work every

1550
01:18:40,635 --> 01:18:42,838
day and for the most part it

1551
01:18:42,838 --> 01:18:43,671
goes unnoticed. And so I just

1552
01:18:43,671 --> 01:18:45,240
greatly appreciate the

1553
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:46,808
acknowledgment by members of the

1554
01:18:46,808 --> 01:18:48,409
community from our staff because

1555
01:18:48,409 --> 01:18:50,545
we don't get to hear it every

1556
01:18:50,545 --> 01:18:51,479
often but it's all day every day

1557
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,479
that they're doing great work.

1558
01:18:54,483 --> 01:18:54,750
So thank you. Thank you,

1559
01:18:54,750 --> 01:18:55,318
gentlemen

1560
01:18:55,318 --> 01:18:57,620
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1561
01:18:57,620 --> 01:18:58,320
you, supervisor wagner, for

1562
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:59,855
calling our attention to the

1563
01:18:59,855 --> 01:19:02,855
great work that's being done.

1564
01:19:08,831 --> 01:19:09,933
Now we have one more thing and

1565
01:19:09,933 --> 01:19:11,533
vice-chair, I think you're the

1566
01:19:11,533 --> 01:19:12,200
lead conspirator on this. Would

1567
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,703
you lead off

1568
01:19:13,703 --> 01:19:14,904
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

1569
01:19:14,904 --> 01:19:16,604
you, MR. CHAIRMAN. At this time

1570
01:19:16,604 --> 01:19:19,808
we would like to take a moment

1571
01:19:19,808 --> 01:19:22,745
to recognize the service of our

1572
01:19:22,745 --> 01:19:24,180
ceo, michelle aguirre, and her

1573
01:19:24,180 --> 01:19:26,616
37 years with the county of

1574
01:19:26,616 --> 01:19:27,350
orange. And I think each of us

1575
01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:27,550
have some comments, but thank

1576
01:19:27,550 --> 01:19:29,550
you.

1577
01:19:42,766 --> 01:19:44,660
[Applause]

1578
01:19:44,660 --> 01:19:44,699
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

1579
01:19:44,699 --> 01:19:47,699
think it's appropriate that you

1580
01:19:48,703 --> 01:19:52,240
go out on a day where we have

1581
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,240
more than 125 items on our

1582
01:19:55,778 --> 01:19:57,413
agenda. And so as a recognition

1583
01:19:57,413 --> 01:19:59,140
and just a -- you know, a

1584
01:19:59,140 --> 01:20:02,170
thanks, we all got together, we

1585
01:20:02,170 --> 01:20:05,617
got you this lovely vase and 37

1586
01:20:05,688 --> 01:20:07,290
flowers to brighten your day,

1587
01:20:07,290 --> 01:20:09,690
recognizing your 37 years. And

1588
01:20:11,927 --> 01:20:13,696
I'll just take a moment to share

1589
01:20:13,696 --> 01:20:14,996
how I have really enjoyed

1590
01:20:14,996 --> 01:20:18,534
working with you, how I have

1591
01:20:18,534 --> 01:20:20,837
valued your insight, your

1592
01:20:20,837 --> 01:20:21,737
mentorship, your knowledge, your

1593
01:20:21,737 --> 01:20:23,973
institutional knowledge of the

1594
01:20:23,973 --> 01:20:26,973
organization sun matched, and we

1595
01:20:27,309 --> 01:20:30,112
are going to be at a big loss

1596
01:20:30,112 --> 01:20:32,650
without it. And for those of

1597
01:20:32,650 --> 01:20:35,584
who might not know, today is ceo

1598
01:20:35,584 --> 01:20:37,984
aguirre's last board meeting.

1599
01:20:38,821 --> 01:20:40,423
She will be retiring this week.

1600
01:20:40,423 --> 01:20:44,230
And she started her career here,

1601
01:20:45,796 --> 01:20:46,996
which I just love, as a

1602
01:20:46,996 --> 01:20:47,997
assistant, a secretary in an

1603
01:20:47,997 --> 01:20:50,330
office, while going to college.

1604
01:20:50,330 --> 01:20:51,340
And she was going to be a

1605
01:20:51,340 --> 01:20:52,569
psychologist, a clinical

1606
01:20:52,569 --> 01:20:53,970
psychologist. Well, I think

1607
01:20:53,970 --> 01:20:55,970
those clinical psychology

1608
01:20:56,204 --> 01:20:58,604
courses are helping throughout

1609
01:21:00,944 --> 01:21:03,346
the 37 years. And you often

1610
01:21:03,346 --> 01:21:05,480
are, you know, the therapist,

1611
01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:09,318
the advisor for all of your team

1612
01:21:09,318 --> 01:21:13,518
and for all of us, and your

1613
01:21:14,230 --> 01:21:15,691
positive outlook, your "can do"

1614
01:21:15,691 --> 01:21:16,893
spirit helps everyone get to

1615
01:21:16,893 --> 01:21:17,794
where they need to get.

1616
01:21:17,794 --> 01:21:19,428
Sometimes it's harder than

1617
01:21:19,428 --> 01:21:21,730
others. Sometimes we like your

1618
01:21:21,730 --> 01:21:24,566
advice, other times we don't.

1619
01:21:24,566 --> 01:21:25,400
But at end of the day, I know

1620
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,400
that your motivation is always

1621
01:21:29,304 --> 01:21:31,740
about the good of the public and

1622
01:21:31,740 --> 01:21:34,176
good governance. So thank you,

1623
01:21:34,176 --> 01:21:36,576
michelle aguirre, for serving

1624
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,114
orange county and leaving a last

1625
01:21:39,114 --> 01:21:41,316
legacy here at orange county.

1626
01:21:41,316 --> 01:21:44,316
The projects that you have

1627
01:21:45,254 --> 01:21:47,756
contributed to are long term and

1628
01:21:47,756 --> 01:21:48,524
will stand the test of time. So

1629
01:21:48,524 --> 01:21:50,250
we really appreciate your work.

1630
01:21:50,250 --> 01:21:51,394
I know you're looking forward to

1631
01:21:51,394 --> 01:21:52,862
lots of time with the

1632
01:21:52,862 --> 01:21:54,862
grandchildren, traveling,

1633
01:21:54,931 --> 01:21:56,399
spending time with your husband,

1634
01:21:56,399 --> 01:21:59,999
who is already retired. And so

1635
01:22:00,102 --> 01:22:02,137
we wish you all the best. We've

1636
01:22:02,137 --> 01:22:03,339
got a day to get through, but we

1637
01:22:03,339 --> 01:22:05,307
know that your heart is here,

1638
01:22:05,307 --> 01:22:06,942
but your heart will be with your

1639
01:22:06,942 --> 01:22:08,610
home and your family from here

1640
01:22:08,610 --> 01:22:09,211
on out, so thank you so much for

1641
01:22:09,211 --> 01:22:09,979
everything.

1642
01:22:09,979 --> 01:22:10,779
>>chair, doug chaffee:

1643
01:22:10,779 --> 01:22:12,779
supervisor wagner?

1644
01:22:13,149 --> 01:22:13,949
>>don wagner: thank you. I will

1645
01:22:13,949 --> 01:22:16,180
echo a lot of that, and I will

1646
01:22:16,180 --> 01:22:17,754
say, obviously, you know, you've

1647
01:22:17,754 --> 01:22:20,220
been here 37 years. Me not

1648
01:22:20,220 --> 01:22:21,391
quite so long. None of us quite

1649
01:22:21,391 --> 01:22:22,859
so long. So you were here when

1650
01:22:22,859 --> 01:22:26,762
I got here, and it's very true

1651
01:22:26,762 --> 01:22:29,980
that quite quickly I was able to

1652
01:22:29,980 --> 01:22:30,767
realize that in you we had is

1653
01:22:30,767 --> 01:22:34,337
someone who knew the depths of

1654
01:22:34,337 --> 01:22:36,500
this county, knew it inside and

1655
01:22:36,500 --> 01:22:38,174
outside, not just the dollars

1656
01:22:38,174 --> 01:22:39,800
and cents. Though, that was

1657
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:40,977
your primary responsibility, but

1658
01:22:40,977 --> 01:22:44,447
knew the way this county worked,

1659
01:22:44,447 --> 01:22:46,583
knew the people here, and

1660
01:22:46,583 --> 01:22:48,451
recognized and helped teach me

1661
01:22:48,451 --> 01:22:52,651
that it is not just a talking

1662
01:22:53,657 --> 01:22:56,590
point when we say the county

1663
01:22:56,590 --> 01:22:59,590
family, that really there are

1664
01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:00,463
genuine friendships here,

1665
01:23:00,463 --> 01:23:03,650
opportunities for all of us to

1666
01:23:03,650 --> 01:23:04,935
work together, to make each

1667
01:23:04,935 --> 01:23:08,205
other better. And at top of

1668
01:23:08,205 --> 01:23:10,674
that and leading that has been

1669
01:23:10,674 --> 01:23:14,244
you from my day one, which was

1670
01:23:14,244 --> 01:23:17,244
your day, like, what, 28 or

1671
01:23:17,546 --> 01:23:21,146
so -- years. So that was

1672
01:23:23,453 --> 01:23:24,353
certainly in the back of my mind

1673
01:23:24,353 --> 01:23:26,550
when I and my colleagues tapped

1674
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:27,556
you to step into the role that

1675
01:23:27,556 --> 01:23:29,125
you've got now. You were

1676
01:23:29,125 --> 01:23:30,359
looking into retirement, I know

1677
01:23:30,359 --> 01:23:33,697
that. And you really took one

1678
01:23:33,697 --> 01:23:35,832
for the team. You came in at an

1679
01:23:35,832 --> 01:23:37,266
uncertain time. You came in

1680
01:23:37,266 --> 01:23:39,268
when searches throughout had not

1681
01:23:39,268 --> 01:23:42,268
turned up the ideal candidate,

1682
01:23:43,340 --> 01:23:44,941
and in part, we recognized, I

1683
01:23:44,941 --> 01:23:46,676
think -- supervisor foley and I

1684
01:23:46,676 --> 01:23:49,120
served on the ad hoc and I think

1685
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,120
we recognized that the perfect

1686
01:23:53,417 --> 01:23:55,751
candidate was you. Don't think

1687
01:23:55,751 --> 01:23:59,756
we can get to you stay any

1688
01:23:59,756 --> 01:24:01,925
longer? No. All right. So you

1689
01:24:01,925 --> 01:24:05,525
stepped in. You've done a great

1690
01:24:05,662 --> 01:24:06,296
job. Those clinical skills

1691
01:24:06,296 --> 01:24:09,199
really help in the management of

1692
01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:11,101
the five of us. I recognize we

1693
01:24:11,101 --> 01:24:14,338
are probably not a very easy

1694
01:24:14,338 --> 01:24:17,938
board. Truth is, I think you

1695
01:24:19,777 --> 01:24:23,377
have maybe tiny feet, but big

1696
01:24:23,514 --> 01:24:25,810
shoes and whoever will come

1697
01:24:25,810 --> 01:24:27,418
along next, I'm not going to ask

1698
01:24:27,418 --> 01:24:28,585
that you walk in your heels but

1699
01:24:28,585 --> 01:24:33,224
I am going to say that you have

1700
01:24:33,224 --> 01:24:35,559
set a path that is admirable as

1701
01:24:35,559 --> 01:24:37,161
one that your successor would be

1702
01:24:37,161 --> 01:24:40,761
well advised to follow and that

1703
01:24:40,997 --> 01:24:43,300
has generated enormous respect

1704
01:24:43,300 --> 01:24:44,368
from me, and I think, from the

1705
01:24:44,368 --> 01:24:46,503
entire community out there.

1706
01:24:46,503 --> 01:24:47,971
Thank you. Not just for 37

1707
01:24:47,971 --> 01:24:49,573
years, but, oh, my gosh, you've

1708
01:24:49,573 --> 01:24:50,874
been a GOD send to this board

1709
01:24:50,874 --> 01:24:54,474
for the last several years, and

1710
01:24:54,911 --> 01:24:55,778
we thank you for it.

1711
01:24:55,778 --> 01:24:57,347
>>chair, doug chaffee:

1712
01:24:57,347 --> 01:24:58,916
supervisor sarmiento?

1713
01:24:58,916 --> 01:25:01,316
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

1714
01:25:01,484 --> 01:25:03,454
chair. So, michelle a lot of

1715
01:25:03,454 --> 01:25:05,789
what I wanted to say has already

1716
01:25:05,789 --> 01:25:07,257
been said. But our time has

1717
01:25:07,257 --> 01:25:09,727
been brief. I know I came on

1718
01:25:09,727 --> 01:25:12,763
when you were still cfo, and,

1719
01:25:12,763 --> 01:25:14,264
you know, we didn't -- we didn't

1720
01:25:14,264 --> 01:25:17,100
know that you'd be serving in

1721
01:25:17,100 --> 01:25:18,836
this role. So as was said, one

1722
01:25:18,836 --> 01:25:20,271
of the things I really want to

1723
01:25:20,271 --> 01:25:21,705
thank you for is your

1724
01:25:21,705 --> 01:25:23,106
willingness to step in at a

1725
01:25:23,106 --> 01:25:25,506
really difficult moment. And

1726
01:25:25,708 --> 01:25:27,440
I'm sure over these 37 years,

1727
01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:29,479
once you're away from us, you're

1728
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,214
going to be reflecting on so

1729
01:25:31,214 --> 01:25:33,614
many incredible milestones that

1730
01:25:33,817 --> 01:25:34,984
you oversaw in this county.

1731
01:25:34,984 --> 01:25:37,620
Being here during the pandemic,

1732
01:25:37,620 --> 01:25:38,221
being here during some really

1733
01:25:38,221 --> 01:25:40,560
difficult times recently when

1734
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,359
we've had some charges against

1735
01:25:42,359 --> 01:25:43,993
the county that you helped us

1736
01:25:43,993 --> 01:25:45,595
cure and do some course

1737
01:25:45,595 --> 01:25:47,130
correction on that. So I want

1738
01:25:47,130 --> 01:25:49,733
to thank you on behalf of all

1739
01:25:49,733 --> 01:25:52,733
the residents here in orange

1740
01:25:53,103 --> 01:25:54,205
county that we knew, had trust

1741
01:25:54,205 --> 01:25:56,841
and faith and confidence in your

1742
01:25:56,841 --> 01:25:57,908
ability to help lead, you know,

1743
01:25:57,908 --> 01:26:00,246
this county and help lead this

1744
01:26:00,246 --> 01:26:03,147
board. You know, we know that,

1745
01:26:03,147 --> 01:26:05,416
as was said, each one of us has

1746
01:26:05,416 --> 01:26:06,918
different styles, has different

1747
01:26:06,918 --> 01:26:09,186
priorities, but I think you were

1748
01:26:09,186 --> 01:26:10,755
able to navigate these really

1749
01:26:10,755 --> 01:26:13,124
well because you just had a

1750
01:26:13,124 --> 01:26:15,193
great, you know, foothold and

1751
01:26:15,193 --> 01:26:16,326
understanding on the numbers.

1752
01:26:16,326 --> 01:26:19,163
But I think beyond your skill

1753
01:26:19,163 --> 01:26:22,163
set with respect to being

1754
01:26:22,266 --> 01:26:23,200
financial officer here at the

1755
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,202
county, I think one of the

1756
01:26:25,202 --> 01:26:26,170
things I admire the most is that

1757
01:26:26,170 --> 01:26:29,390
you've always cared for the

1758
01:26:29,390 --> 01:26:30,640
least among us. And for those

1759
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,243
who have had their lives

1760
01:26:32,243 --> 01:26:33,910
derailed in one way or another,

1761
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:35,313
whether it's illness, health,

1762
01:26:35,313 --> 01:26:36,814
whether it's a bad decision, I

1763
01:26:36,814 --> 01:26:39,490
think you've dedicated yourself

1764
01:26:39,490 --> 01:26:40,500
to make sure that there is a

1765
01:26:40,500 --> 01:26:42,185
legacy of work that you are

1766
01:26:42,185 --> 01:26:44,488
going to be leading. So for

1767
01:26:44,488 --> 01:26:45,923
that, you know, many of my

1768
01:26:45,923 --> 01:26:47,923
residents unfortunately, you

1769
01:26:48,125 --> 01:26:49,226
know, deal with those issues. I

1770
01:26:49,226 --> 01:26:51,561
want to thank you on their

1771
01:26:51,561 --> 01:26:53,597
behalf because they had a true

1772
01:26:53,597 --> 01:26:55,866
genuine advocate in you, and

1773
01:26:55,866 --> 01:26:59,203
your work is going to stand and

1774
01:26:59,203 --> 01:27:00,772
be a legacy to what it is to be

1775
01:27:00,772 --> 01:27:02,273
somebody who's an executive

1776
01:27:02,273 --> 01:27:05,509
here. And so I just want to

1777
01:27:05,509 --> 01:27:08,780
thank you for that. I also want

1778
01:27:08,780 --> 01:27:09,946
to say, you know, thank you for

1779
01:27:09,946 --> 01:27:11,214
staying longer. I know this be

1780
01:27:11,214 --> 01:27:12,416
wasn't the moment that you

1781
01:27:12,416 --> 01:27:14,584
wanted to leave. You wanted to

1782
01:27:14,584 --> 01:27:16,190
leave last year because your

1783
01:27:16,190 --> 01:27:18,823
husband -- you and your husband

1784
01:27:18,823 --> 01:27:20,658
had plans, and you took a very

1785
01:27:20,658 --> 01:27:22,590
difficult decision and, please,

1786
01:27:22,590 --> 01:27:24,428
thank him on our behalf, you

1787
01:27:24,428 --> 01:27:26,630
know, for the delay for him

1788
01:27:26,630 --> 01:27:28,199
being considerate and giving you

1789
01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:30,000
that grace to be with us as we,

1790
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,300
you know, navigated, you know,

1791
01:27:32,300 --> 01:27:33,400
difficult decisions, as we

1792
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,390
continue to search for somebody

1793
01:27:35,390 --> 01:27:37,508
who's going to, you know, fill

1794
01:27:37,508 --> 01:27:39,343
that seat and continue in

1795
01:27:39,343 --> 01:27:40,945
this -- in leading this evolving

1796
01:27:40,945 --> 01:27:43,582
county. So I know that you've

1797
01:27:43,582 --> 01:27:45,416
seen a lot in 37 years, reflect

1798
01:27:45,416 --> 01:27:48,720
on it once you, you know, take a

1799
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,622
moment. It's been a meaningful

1800
01:27:50,622 --> 01:27:53,220
life, professional life that

1801
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:55,126
you've led here. This -- orange

1802
01:27:55,126 --> 01:27:57,362
county is a special place. And

1803
01:27:57,362 --> 01:27:59,698
for the county to have entrusted

1804
01:27:59,698 --> 01:28:02,666
so much of it in your hands and

1805
01:28:02,666 --> 01:28:04,368
you took care of it, and I know

1806
01:28:04,368 --> 01:28:06,504
you'll always have a special

1807
01:28:06,504 --> 01:28:08,106
place in your heart for these

1808
01:28:08,106 --> 01:28:10,241
years, this is your life's work.

1809
01:28:10,241 --> 01:28:11,943
So thank you on behalf of

1810
01:28:11,943 --> 01:28:15,780
everybody who MAY not be able to

1811
01:28:15,780 --> 01:28:17,916
say thank you to you in person.

1812
01:28:17,916 --> 01:28:20,500
We want to appreciate you. We

1813
01:28:20,500 --> 01:28:21,953
want to live vicariously through

1814
01:28:21,953 --> 01:28:23,520
you once you leave. Send us

1815
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:24,388
photographs so we can see what

1816
01:28:24,388 --> 01:28:25,890
it's like to be on the other

1817
01:28:25,890 --> 01:28:27,891
side. But on behalf of all of

1818
01:28:27,891 --> 01:28:29,627
us, we want to thank you for

1819
01:28:29,627 --> 01:28:31,230
showing, you know, patience,

1820
01:28:31,230 --> 01:28:32,863
being firm with us when we know

1821
01:28:32,863 --> 01:28:34,431
we didn't want to hear a certain

1822
01:28:34,431 --> 01:28:35,165
response but that's our

1823
01:28:35,165 --> 01:28:37,102
democracy. It's the tension

1824
01:28:37,102 --> 01:28:39,503
that was built into these

1825
01:28:39,503 --> 01:28:41,903
governments. So we appreciate

1826
01:28:42,606 --> 01:28:42,940
you. Don't go far. Come back

1827
01:28:42,940 --> 01:28:44,940
and visit us.

1828
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:48,790
You know, now you can employ

1829
01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:49,547
some of the therapy on us as a

1830
01:28:49,547 --> 01:28:51,490
professional. But we appreciate

1831
01:28:51,490 --> 01:28:53,510
you. Thank you, michelle, for

1832
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:56,510
everything that you've done for

1833
01:28:56,388 --> 01:28:57,888
us.

1834
01:28:57,888 --> 01:29:00,288
>>janet nguyen: thank you,

1835
01:29:00,824 --> 01:29:03,261
MR. CHAIRMAN. I'm excited for

1836
01:29:03,261 --> 01:29:04,162
you, and, you know, it's -- this

1837
01:29:04,162 --> 01:29:06,162
recognition is especially

1838
01:29:08,660 --> 01:29:10,135
meaningful for me for you

1839
01:29:10,135 --> 01:29:12,436
because we've known each other a

1840
01:29:12,436 --> 01:29:16,360
decade ago. You started when I

1841
01:29:16,173 --> 01:29:17,175
was first here. We were

1842
01:29:17,175 --> 01:29:18,809
itsy-bitsy little kids trying to

1843
01:29:18,809 --> 01:29:21,712
learn the county. You've been

1844
01:29:21,712 --> 01:29:25,312
there longer than I was. But

1845
01:29:25,517 --> 01:29:27,786
you had so much patience. You

1846
01:29:27,786 --> 01:29:28,354
were so helpful to my staff when

1847
01:29:28,354 --> 01:29:30,924
we first got here, the first

1848
01:29:30,924 --> 01:29:33,324
time in 2007. We appreciate

1849
01:29:34,192 --> 01:29:35,594
you. You were firm pickup

1850
01:29:35,594 --> 01:29:39,194
taught us, you helped us, and

1851
01:29:40,980 --> 01:29:41,533
when I came back and saw that

1852
01:29:41,533 --> 01:29:43,935
you are the interim ceo, I was

1853
01:29:43,935 --> 01:29:46,271
so excited because not only all

1854
01:29:46,271 --> 01:29:46,938
of those quiets, but are you

1855
01:29:46,938 --> 01:29:48,574
intelligent. You've got the

1856
01:29:48,574 --> 01:29:50,709
courage. You had the respect of

1857
01:29:50,709 --> 01:29:52,244
the department and the county

1858
01:29:52,244 --> 01:29:54,446
employees, and those are the

1859
01:29:54,446 --> 01:29:56,470
qualities that don't come

1860
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:57,783
easily. And so it wasn't a

1861
01:29:57,783 --> 01:30:00,840
surprise to see you go from, you

1862
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,255
know, being in the budget as an

1863
01:30:03,255 --> 01:30:04,957
analyst to, you know, we had a

1864
01:30:04,957 --> 01:30:07,125
different path in that decade.

1865
01:30:07,125 --> 01:30:09,227
You went all the way up to the

1866
01:30:09,227 --> 01:30:10,996
top at county. I went to

1867
01:30:10,996 --> 01:30:13,331
sacramento and came back. And

1868
01:30:13,331 --> 01:30:16,331
since we've been back, thank

1869
01:30:16,968 --> 01:30:19,204
you, because you -- and you your

1870
01:30:19,204 --> 01:30:20,805
staff has been very helpful to

1871
01:30:20,805 --> 01:30:22,340
our office. Has helped us

1872
01:30:22,340 --> 01:30:23,274
navigate not only to my office,

1873
01:30:23,274 --> 01:30:25,344
but also the board, the

1874
01:30:25,344 --> 01:30:28,344
individual offices and to the

1875
01:30:28,379 --> 01:30:31,979
county. We were here when the

1876
01:30:33,651 --> 01:30:34,653
recession hit. We did the

1877
01:30:34,653 --> 01:30:36,540
strategic plan together and we

1878
01:30:36,540 --> 01:30:37,689
knew why we needed that

1879
01:30:37,689 --> 01:30:38,524
strategic plan. It's not the

1880
01:30:38,524 --> 01:30:40,726
same priority it is today, but

1881
01:30:40,726 --> 01:30:41,559
we set it in motion for what we

1882
01:30:41,559 --> 01:30:43,195
were able to do. This building

1883
01:30:43,195 --> 01:30:46,195
was because of those strategic

1884
01:30:47,565 --> 01:30:48,333
plans and those thinking-forward

1885
01:30:48,333 --> 01:30:50,100
ideas, you know, that the budget

1886
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:51,469
team and the board at the time

1887
01:30:51,469 --> 01:30:52,371
brought together. But that is

1888
01:30:52,371 --> 01:30:53,705
because of the leadership of the

1889
01:30:53,705 --> 01:30:55,907
budget team, and you were part

1890
01:30:55,907 --> 01:30:58,276
of that. And so thank you for

1891
01:30:58,276 --> 01:30:59,878
all that you do. I know this is

1892
01:30:59,878 --> 01:31:02,460
an exciting time for you. Also

1893
01:31:02,460 --> 01:31:03,715
appreciate the fact that you

1894
01:31:03,715 --> 01:31:07,315
stayed behind one more year to

1895
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,422
help us navigate another -- we

1896
01:31:10,422 --> 01:31:13,422
need stop this recession and

1897
01:31:14,427 --> 01:31:16,862
this budget shortfall, you know.

1898
01:31:16,862 --> 01:31:18,330
But everything that you are we

1899
01:31:18,330 --> 01:31:21,930
appreciate, and so on behalf of

1900
01:31:29,475 --> 01:31:32,211
not only the board and

1901
01:31:32,211 --> 01:31:33,112
county...

1902
01:31:33,112 --> 01:31:35,948
The -- for your retirement,

1903
01:31:35,948 --> 01:31:39,548
don't forget us. You say that

1904
01:31:41,820 --> 01:31:43,522
right now, and I see the

1905
01:31:43,522 --> 01:31:44,656
department directors who have

1906
01:31:44,656 --> 01:31:46,458
left. But you will truly enjoy

1907
01:31:46,458 --> 01:31:48,126
it because serving the board is

1908
01:31:48,126 --> 01:31:49,160
very challenging. We're all

1909
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:50,563
unique and different. We have

1910
01:31:50,563 --> 01:31:52,130
different interests in our

1911
01:31:52,130 --> 01:31:54,530
district. We have different

1912
01:31:55,166 --> 01:31:57,368
personalities. But you've been

1913
01:31:57,368 --> 01:31:59,300
able to make the ship steady,

1914
01:31:59,300 --> 01:32:00,506
and you said no to us pickup

1915
01:32:00,506 --> 01:32:04,106
said gentlemen to us, and you

1916
01:32:04,443 --> 01:32:05,644
said no to us. But it's so much

1917
01:32:05,644 --> 01:32:08,440
appreciated because you've never

1918
01:32:09,581 --> 01:32:11,160
not given us an explanation and

1919
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,616
to do the thinking of looking

1920
01:32:15,154 --> 01:32:16,454
ahead and forward. And so,

1921
01:32:16,454 --> 01:32:18,690
again, thank you from the bottom

1922
01:32:18,690 --> 01:32:19,758
of my heart. Thank you for

1923
01:32:19,758 --> 01:32:22,627
everything that you do for the

1924
01:32:22,627 --> 01:32:25,627
county and for the 3.2 million

1925
01:32:27,166 --> 01:32:28,166
people of this county.

1926
01:32:28,166 --> 01:32:29,567
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

1927
01:32:29,567 --> 01:32:31,967
you, supervisor. You guys

1928
01:32:34,390 --> 01:32:35,400
didn't leave much for me to say.

1929
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:37,108
I would note that we've been

1930
01:32:37,108 --> 01:32:39,645
searching for a future ceo for

1931
01:32:39,645 --> 01:32:41,914
quite a while. I think the

1932
01:32:41,914 --> 01:32:44,350
problem we keep running into,

1933
01:32:44,350 --> 01:32:46,351
nobody that we've introduced or

1934
01:32:46,351 --> 01:32:47,987
even looked at is even close to

1935
01:32:47,987 --> 01:32:49,587
the ceo that we have. So you

1936
01:32:49,587 --> 01:32:52,858
are in our minds as to where we

1937
01:32:52,858 --> 01:32:56,262
might go for the future. That's

1938
01:32:56,262 --> 01:32:58,564
great. You know, I admire your

1939
01:32:58,564 --> 01:33:01,701
tenacity, you actually say no to

1940
01:33:01,701 --> 01:33:04,101
supervisor requests. And that's

1941
01:33:04,837 --> 01:33:06,239
the strength not everybody has.

1942
01:33:06,239 --> 01:33:08,774
And I like the way you've

1943
01:33:08,774 --> 01:33:11,711
actually taught us so much about

1944
01:33:11,711 --> 01:33:13,913
the county. And that's helped

1945
01:33:13,913 --> 01:33:14,846
all of us grow and to become

1946
01:33:14,846 --> 01:33:17,750
better stewards of the county

1947
01:33:17,750 --> 01:33:20,860
because of your example. And,

1948
01:33:20,860 --> 01:33:21,540
you know, you maybe going -- I

1949
01:33:21,540 --> 01:33:22,687
tried to convince to you do six

1950
01:33:22,687 --> 01:33:25,525
more months because that's when

1951
01:33:25,525 --> 01:33:27,827
my term ends. But you said no.

1952
01:33:27,827 --> 01:33:30,163
And I think you are ready to go

1953
01:33:30,163 --> 01:33:32,563
somewhere with your suitcase

1954
01:33:33,990 --> 01:33:36,335
packed, I think. But I have to

1955
01:33:36,335 --> 01:33:37,704
remember all you've taught me.

1956
01:33:37,704 --> 01:33:40,720
It's been a lot. There's so

1957
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,207
many things about the county you

1958
01:33:42,207 --> 01:33:45,610
only learn by being here quite a

1959
01:33:45,610 --> 01:33:47,714
while. And our tenures here are

1960
01:33:47,714 --> 01:33:51,914
too short to learn all, that but

1961
01:33:53,919 --> 01:33:56,540
you've helped us learn into what

1962
01:33:56,540 --> 01:33:57,823
we need to be. And if anything,

1963
01:33:57,823 --> 01:33:59,993
I admire, it's the heart have

1964
01:33:59,993 --> 01:34:01,694
you. You have a heart which you

1965
01:34:01,694 --> 01:34:02,995
care, you care about the county,

1966
01:34:02,995 --> 01:34:04,290
you care about the people, and

1967
01:34:04,290 --> 01:34:05,597
you care about us. That's

1968
01:34:05,597 --> 01:34:07,866
pretty cool. So I just wish you

1969
01:34:07,866 --> 01:34:09,868
well. I've got your phone

1970
01:34:09,868 --> 01:34:12,405
number, so if you need help with

1971
01:34:12,405 --> 01:34:14,740
anything and vice-versa, we're

1972
01:34:14,740 --> 01:34:16,943
not the end of the contact we

1973
01:34:16,943 --> 01:34:19,440
might have. And so with that,

1974
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:20,145
I'd like all of us to join out

1975
01:34:20,145 --> 01:34:23,820
here for a picture and we have a

1976
01:34:23,820 --> 01:34:25,820
plaque to present.

1977
01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:32,546
>>chair, doug chaffee: MADAM

1978
01:36:32,546 --> 01:36:33,347
Clerk, would you help us with

1979
01:36:33,347 --> 01:36:35,983
any changes to the calendar? I

1980
01:36:35,983 --> 01:36:37,417
would note I have a somewhat

1981
01:36:37,417 --> 01:36:38,720
different list. I've tried

1982
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,121
consolidate some things and put,

1983
01:36:41,121 --> 01:36:42,857
for example, our budget up

1984
01:36:42,857 --> 01:36:44,900
first, so...

1985
01:36:44,900 --> 01:36:45,625
>>clerk, robin stieler: item 2

1986
01:36:45,625 --> 01:36:48,940
has been deleted and 19 and 20

1987
01:36:48,940 --> 01:36:50,264
have been continued to

1988
01:36:50,264 --> 01:36:51,965
AUGUST 11, 2026 at 9:30 A.M.

1989
01:36:51,965 --> 01:36:52,699
And the public has requested to

1990
01:36:52,699 --> 01:36:55,699
pull from the consent calendar

1991
01:37:03,444 --> 01:37:04,977
item 1.

1992
01:37:04,977 --> 01:37:07,977
>>chair, doug chaffee: now we're

1993
01:37:08,614 --> 01:37:10,917
at our consent calendar.

1994
01:37:10,917 --> 01:37:11,751
>>leon page: I have a few

1995
01:37:11,751 --> 01:37:14,153
housekeeping items before we get

1996
01:37:14,153 --> 01:37:15,870
going. Item no. 78, that

1997
01:37:15,870 --> 01:37:16,989
relates to the selection of a

1998
01:37:16,989 --> 01:37:19,389
contractor for tree care

1999
01:37:19,625 --> 01:37:21,625
maintenance services. With

2000
01:37:21,862 --> 01:37:23,163
respect to that item, supervisor

2001
01:37:23,163 --> 01:37:24,330
wagner received a campaign

2002
01:37:24,330 --> 01:37:26,399
contribution or his campaign

2003
01:37:26,399 --> 01:37:27,200
received a contribution from

2004
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,403
patrick mahoney, who is the

2005
01:37:29,403 --> 01:37:30,236
PRESIDENT Of west coast

2006
01:37:30,236 --> 01:37:33,139
arborist, one of the bidders in

2007
01:37:33,139 --> 01:37:34,400
that procurement. So supervisor

2008
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:37,400
wagner will be recusing himself

2009
01:37:37,711 --> 01:37:40,414
from item 78. Likewise on item

2010
01:37:40,414 --> 01:37:42,414
79, supervisor wagner's received

2011
01:37:42,548 --> 01:37:44,650
a campaign contribution from rj

2012
01:37:44,650 --> 01:37:45,853
noble, so he'll be recusing

2013
01:37:45,853 --> 01:37:48,488
himself to item 79 and with

2014
01:37:48,488 --> 01:37:50,289
respect to 94z, in DECEMBER of

2015
01:37:50,289 --> 01:37:51,257
2025 supervisor foley's campaign

2016
01:37:51,257 --> 01:37:53,657
received a campaign contribution

2017
01:37:54,527 --> 01:37:57,163
from bob olsen of dana point

2018
01:37:57,163 --> 01:38:00,990
harbor partner and I've been

2019
01:38:00,990 --> 01:38:01,601
informed that the supervisor has

2020
01:38:01,601 --> 01:38:04,100
returned that contribution and

2021
01:38:04,137 --> 01:38:06,140
so she MAY participate in the

2022
01:38:06,140 --> 01:38:06,669
discussion on item 94z. Thank

2023
01:38:06,669 --> 01:38:06,973
you

2024
01:38:06,973 --> 01:38:07,740
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

2025
01:38:07,740 --> 01:38:08,576
you, counsel.

2026
01:38:08,576 --> 01:38:10,976
>>clerk, robin stieler: the

2027
01:38:11,110 --> 01:38:12,120
public has GOD pull item 1 from

2028
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:13,748
the consent calendar

2029
01:38:13,748 --> 01:38:15,349
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

2030
01:38:15,349 --> 01:38:16,884
Colleagues anything that you'd

2031
01:38:16,884 --> 01:38:18,180
like to pull from the consent

2032
01:38:18,180 --> 01:38:20,418
calendar? Seeing none, there

2033
01:38:20,588 --> 01:38:21,722
are several that I believe were

2034
01:38:21,722 --> 01:38:23,722
continued, so...

2035
01:38:24,659 --> 01:38:26,861
Okay. With the remaining ones

2036
01:38:26,861 --> 01:38:27,928
it's been moved and second. Any

2037
01:38:27,928 --> 01:38:29,497
objection? Seeing none, the

2038
01:38:29,497 --> 01:38:31,532
other items are approved. We

2039
01:38:31,532 --> 01:38:34,300
need to go to item 1, then.

2040
01:38:34,300 --> 01:38:34,969
Call the speaker.

2041
01:38:34,969 --> 01:38:35,636
>>clerk, robin stieler: 1. Under

2042
01:38:35,636 --> 01:38:36,369
chair chaffee-orange county

2043
01:38:36,369 --> 01:38:37,304
behavioral health advisory

2044
01:38:37,304 --> 01:38:38,272
board, appoint virginia arvizu,

2045
01:38:38,272 --> 01:38:39,173
stanton and reappoint stephen

2046
01:38:39,173 --> 01:38:40,808
mcnally, costa mesa and michell

2047
01:38:40,808 --> 01:38:43,208
fernandez, laguna niguel, for

2048
01:38:43,944 --> 01:38:45,646
terms ending 3/9/29.

2049
01:38:45,646 --> 01:38:49,246
And we have one request to

2050
01:38:53,860 --> 01:38:55,860
speak. Deborah donovan.

2051
01:38:56,856 --> 01:38:59,256
>>speaker: thank you. It's

2052
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:00,894
deborah donothan. I am making

2053
01:39:00,894 --> 01:39:02,495
comment on the health advisory

2054
01:39:02,495 --> 01:39:04,631
board appointments. As these

2055
01:39:04,631 --> 01:39:05,432
appointments are approved, I ask

2056
01:39:05,432 --> 01:39:06,866
the board to ensure this

2057
01:39:06,866 --> 01:39:08,536
advisory body is not just

2058
01:39:08,536 --> 01:39:10,738
reviewing programs on paper but

2059
01:39:10,738 --> 01:39:11,304
asking whether orange county's

2060
01:39:11,304 --> 01:39:12,238
behavioral health system is

2061
01:39:12,238 --> 01:39:14,308
truly supporting people in the

2062
01:39:14,308 --> 01:39:16,708
community. The public needs

2063
01:39:16,744 --> 01:39:17,745
transparency on whether fund

2064
01:39:17,745 --> 01:39:19,745
something going toward

2065
01:39:19,879 --> 01:39:21,281
prevention, voluntary services,

2066
01:39:21,281 --> 01:39:22,183
family support and disability

2067
01:39:22,183 --> 01:39:24,583
rights or whether vulnerable

2068
01:39:24,617 --> 01:39:27,617
residents are being rooted into

2069
01:39:27,654 --> 01:39:29,255
crisis systems such as care

2070
01:39:29,255 --> 01:39:31,191
court, probate mental health

2071
01:39:31,191 --> 01:39:32,792
court, conservatorship and

2072
01:39:32,792 --> 01:39:33,694
restrictive placements.

2073
01:39:33,694 --> 01:39:35,694
Behavioral health oversight

2074
01:39:36,630 --> 01:39:37,464
should include ada and olmsted

2075
01:39:37,464 --> 01:39:39,464
compliance, public outcome

2076
01:39:39,466 --> 01:39:41,434
measures and the voices of

2077
01:39:41,434 --> 01:39:42,303
families and disabled residents

2078
01:39:42,303 --> 01:39:44,337
directly impacted by these

2079
01:39:44,337 --> 01:39:44,938
systems. Thank you.

2080
01:39:44,938 --> 01:39:45,259
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

2081
01:39:45,259 --> 01:39:45,839
you

2082
01:39:45,839 --> 01:39:47,775
>>clerk, robin stieler: no

2083
01:39:47,775 --> 01:39:48,309
further," MR. Chair

2084
01:39:48,309 --> 01:39:49,109
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

2085
01:39:49,109 --> 01:39:51,245
right. This is item 1. I'm

2086
01:39:51,245 --> 01:39:53,800
going to move it. This is

2087
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:55,216
appointment to people to the

2088
01:39:55,216 --> 01:39:55,791
orange county behavioral health

2089
01:39:55,791 --> 01:39:57,451
advisory board

2090
01:39:57,451 --> 01:39:57,747
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

2091
01:39:57,747 --> 01:39:58,319
second

2092
01:39:58,319 --> 01:39:59,821
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

2093
01:39:59,821 --> 01:40:02,189
objection? Seeing none, the

2094
01:40:02,189 --> 01:40:06,389
item is approved. I want to go

2095
01:40:07,610 --> 01:40:10,498
next totem 94w, which is our

2096
01:40:10,498 --> 01:40:11,432
budget.

2097
01:40:11,432 --> 01:40:12,300
s94w. County executive office-

2098
01:40:12,300 --> 01:40:13,567
adopt fy 2026-27 final budget

2099
01:40:13,567 --> 01:40:15,203
resolution; approve various

2100
01:40:15,203 --> 01:40:17,603
internal service fund billing

2101
01:40:18,710 --> 01:40:19,406
rates; approve fy 2026-27

2102
01:40:19,406 --> 01:40:21,806
employee and employer retirement

2103
01:40:22,343 --> 01:40:23,911
contribution rates; direct human

2104
01:40:23,911 --> 01:40:25,513
resource services to adjust

2105
01:40:25,513 --> 01:40:27,415
position counts to reconcile

2106
01:40:27,415 --> 01:40:29,415
straw vote; establish

2107
01:40:30,385 --> 01:40:31,719
district attorney special

2108
01:40:31,719 --> 01:40:33,553
appropriations and vehicle theft

2109
01:40:33,553 --> 01:40:35,230
task force special funds;

2110
01:40:35,230 --> 01:40:35,923
establish sheriff special

2111
01:40:35,923 --> 01:40:38,225
appropriations fund and regional

2112
01:40:38,225 --> 01:40:39,627
narcotics suppression program;

2113
01:40:39,627 --> 01:40:41,162
adopt resolutions authorizing

2114
01:40:41,162 --> 01:40:42,430
temporary transfers of funds;

2115
01:40:42,430 --> 01:40:44,232
direct auditor-controller to

2116
01:40:44,232 --> 01:40:46,200
make related payments and

2117
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:47,234
reimbursements; approve fy

2118
01:40:47,234 --> 01:40:49,634
2026-27 county master events

2119
01:40:50,270 --> 01:40:51,773
calendar and fy 2026-27

2120
01:40:51,773 --> 01:40:53,206
charitable organization

2121
01:40:53,206 --> 01:40:55,343
activities plan and make related

2122
01:40:55,343 --> 01:40:57,343
findings under government

2123
01:40:57,679 --> 01:40:59,460
code section 26227; adopt

2124
01:40:59,460 --> 01:40:59,913
resolution approving sponsorship

2125
01:40:59,913 --> 01:41:00,615
marketing plan and making

2126
01:41:00,615 --> 01:41:02,182
related findings; adopt

2127
01:41:02,182 --> 01:41:04,217
resolution approving united way

2128
01:41:04,217 --> 01:41:06,987
of orange county to conduct fy

2129
01:41:06,987 --> 01:41:09,387
2026-27 charitable campaign and

2130
01:41:11,925 --> 01:41:13,495
making related findings; receive

2131
01:41:13,495 --> 01:41:15,195
and file fy 2026-27 annual list

2132
01:41:15,195 --> 01:41:17,300
of county ad hoc committees;

2133
01:41:17,300 --> 01:41:18,365
approve revised county

2134
01:41:18,365 --> 01:41:19,700
organizational change

2135
01:41:19,700 --> 01:41:21,134
administrative procedure and

2136
01:41:21,134 --> 01:41:22,836
authorize county executive

2137
01:41:22,836 --> 01:41:25,673
office to make changes under

2138
01:41:25,673 --> 01:41:27,673
certain conditions; approve

2139
01:41:28,275 --> 01:41:29,177
revised classification

2140
01:41:29,177 --> 01:41:31,177
specifications, title

2141
01:41:31,946 --> 01:41:33,647
descriptions and set pay grades,

2142
01:41:33,647 --> 01:41:35,216
effective 6/26/26; approve and

2143
01:41:35,216 --> 01:41:36,817
adopt side letter agreements

2144
01:41:36,817 --> 01:41:38,919
with orange county employees

2145
01:41:38,919 --> 01:41:40,221
association community services

2146
01:41:40,221 --> 01:41:42,230
unit and supervisory management

2147
01:41:42,230 --> 01:41:44,423
unit; adopt revisions to

2148
01:41:44,726 --> 01:41:46,726
personnel & salary resolution,

2149
01:41:46,828 --> 01:41:48,663
effective 6/26/26; adopt

2150
01:41:48,663 --> 01:41:50,365
retirement assistance program

2151
01:41:50,365 --> 01:41:52,167
and policy, a voluntary

2152
01:41:52,167 --> 01:41:53,268
incentive program, and authorize

2153
01:41:53,268 --> 01:41:54,602
county executive officer or

2154
01:41:54,602 --> 01:41:56,570
designee to enter into

2155
01:41:56,570 --> 01:41:57,739
agreement as necessary,

2156
01:41:57,739 --> 01:41:59,240
authorize chief human resource

2157
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,900
officer or designee to

2158
01:42:01,900 --> 01:42:02,611
administer retiree medical

2159
01:42:02,611 --> 01:42:03,811
program and health reimbursement

2160
01:42:03,811 --> 01:42:05,450
arrangement plan, make

2161
01:42:05,450 --> 01:42:06,281
amendments as necessary and

2162
01:42:06,281 --> 01:42:07,549
return to the board of

2163
01:42:07,549 --> 01:42:08,716
supervisors for approval; adopt

2164
01:42:08,716 --> 01:42:10,519
part-time plus program, a

2165
01:42:10,519 --> 01:42:11,885
voluntary program, and authorize

2166
01:42:11,885 --> 01:42:12,587
county executive officer or

2167
01:42:12,587 --> 01:42:14,789
designee to implement and

2168
01:42:14,789 --> 01:42:16,789
administer program

2169
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:20,240
. And MR. Chair, we have

2170
01:42:21,363 --> 01:42:22,464
received 16 requests to speak on

2171
01:42:22,464 --> 01:42:23,298
s94w.

2172
01:42:23,298 --> 01:42:23,899
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

2173
01:42:23,899 --> 01:42:24,131
right. Please call the

2174
01:42:24,131 --> 01:42:24,765
speakers

2175
01:42:24,765 --> 01:42:26,601
>>clerk, robin stieler: I will

2176
01:42:26,601 --> 01:42:27,935
call three names at a time.

2177
01:42:27,935 --> 01:42:29,237
Please line up in the center of

2178
01:42:29,237 --> 01:42:32,573
the room behind the podium when

2179
01:42:32,573 --> 01:42:34,676
your name is called. Cassandra

2180
01:42:34,676 --> 01:42:37,760
perez. District attorney todd

2181
01:42:49,257 --> 01:42:51,657
spitzer and jennifer roberson.

2182
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:56,160
>>speaker: hello, is a andra

2183
01:42:56,197 --> 01:42:58,597
perez, district director for

2184
01:42:59,567 --> 01:43:01,967
congressman lou corriea, I'm

2185
01:43:02,870 --> 01:43:05,173
writing in regards to item

2186
01:43:05,173 --> 01:43:06,374
no. S94w budget resolution. The

2187
01:43:06,374 --> 01:43:07,675
item concerns $5 million in

2188
01:43:07,675 --> 01:43:10,750
federal funding I secured

2189
01:43:10,511 --> 01:43:11,646
through the fiscal year 2022

2190
01:43:11,646 --> 01:43:13,470
committee project funding

2191
01:43:13,470 --> 01:43:13,981
process for the county's

2192
01:43:13,981 --> 01:43:15,981
coordinated re-entry center.

2193
01:43:16,784 --> 01:43:19,784
I'd like to restate my

2194
01:43:19,820 --> 01:43:20,522
insistence for my letter earlier

2195
01:43:20,522 --> 01:43:21,690
this month where the county

2196
01:43:21,690 --> 01:43:23,570
works with the city of santa ana

2197
01:43:23,570 --> 01:43:25,393
before proceeding with the

2198
01:43:25,393 --> 01:43:26,695
project. Back in 2021 when the

2199
01:43:26,695 --> 01:43:28,230
project was submitted to my

2200
01:43:28,230 --> 01:43:29,310
office, the county had not

2201
01:43:29,310 --> 01:43:30,900
decided on a project location.

2202
01:43:30,900 --> 01:43:31,766
Clearly given the delicate

2203
01:43:31,766 --> 01:43:33,869
nature of the re-entry project

2204
01:43:33,869 --> 01:43:35,437
it is the duty of the county to

2205
01:43:35,437 --> 01:43:37,773
obtain buy and from impacted

2206
01:43:37,773 --> 01:43:38,907
city and community members.

2207
01:43:38,907 --> 01:43:40,442
This due diligence was not

2208
01:43:40,442 --> 01:43:42,440
conducted prior to the project

2209
01:43:42,440 --> 01:43:45,644
submission to my office but I

2210
01:43:45,981 --> 01:43:47,783
request you to obtain this

2211
01:43:47,783 --> 01:43:49,485
immediately by conducting

2212
01:43:49,485 --> 01:43:51,452
thorough outreach with impacted

2213
01:43:51,452 --> 01:43:53,555
community members before moving

2214
01:43:53,555 --> 01:43:53,842
forward to the community

2215
01:43:53,842 --> 01:43:54,389
consensus

2216
01:43:54,389 --> 01:43:55,262
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

2217
01:43:55,262 --> 01:43:58,862
you. Ma'am. Time is up. We

2218
01:44:02,231 --> 01:44:03,899
have your letter. Thank you.

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01:44:03,899 --> 01:44:05,266
>>speaker: MR. CHAIRMAN, members

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01:44:05,266 --> 01:44:07,368
of the board. Good morning.

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01:44:07,368 --> 01:44:09,204
Michelle, congratulations on

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01:44:09,204 --> 01:44:10,439
behalf of the nearly 1,000

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01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:10,939
employees in the district

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01:44:10,939 --> 01:44:12,740
attorney's office. We

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01:44:12,740 --> 01:44:14,376
appreciate your service. One of

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01:44:14,376 --> 01:44:16,111
the things I want to say about a

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01:44:16,111 --> 01:44:17,379
37-year ploy employee and

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01:44:17,379 --> 01:44:18,547
somebody who's been serving this

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01:44:18,547 --> 01:44:21,449
county for 37 and a half years

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01:44:21,449 --> 01:44:22,917
as an elected official is that,

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01:44:22,917 --> 01:44:25,286
as michelle knows and I know, we

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01:44:25,286 --> 01:44:26,589
give our service, but things

2233
01:44:26,589 --> 01:44:28,324
move on, and there has to be

2234
01:44:28,324 --> 01:44:31,225
other people who take up the

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01:44:31,225 --> 01:44:33,528
mantel. So I really am thankful

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01:44:33,528 --> 01:44:35,264
for her service, but I also know

2237
01:44:35,264 --> 01:44:37,866
that we have to leave a county

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01:44:37,866 --> 01:44:39,867
behind in this budget process,

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01:44:39,867 --> 01:44:42,538
and what is most important is

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01:44:42,538 --> 01:44:44,473
not MS. Aguirre or todd spitzer.

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01:44:44,473 --> 01:44:46,700
It's our employees. And our

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01:44:46,700 --> 01:44:47,508
employees rely on a budget

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01:44:47,508 --> 01:44:49,511
process that builds credibility

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01:44:49,511 --> 01:44:50,612
and moral and that people know

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01:44:50,612 --> 01:44:52,648
we're taking care of them. This

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01:44:52,648 --> 01:44:54,483
budget process wasn't even

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01:44:54,483 --> 01:44:55,850
agendized. It was put on as a

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01:44:55,850 --> 01:44:57,586
supplemental, almost as an

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01:44:57,586 --> 01:44:58,386
after-thought. The most

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01:44:58,386 --> 01:45:00,388
important vote that a board of

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01:45:00,388 --> 01:45:02,925
supervisors has is your budget.

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01:45:02,925 --> 01:45:04,359
I would ask you to go -- wow

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01:45:04,359 --> 01:45:05,961
>>chair, doug chaffee: well, if

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01:45:05,961 --> 01:45:07,562
you can be quick...

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01:45:07,562 --> 01:45:09,300
>>speaker: I'd ask to you go

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01:45:09,300 --> 01:45:10,432
back to the prior process that

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01:45:10,432 --> 01:45:13,335
we used when I was a supervisor

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01:45:13,335 --> 01:45:14,403
for 12 years serving with

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01:45:14,403 --> 01:45:17,206
supervisor nguyen, allow us to

2260
01:45:17,206 --> 01:45:19,508
have the net county cost budget,

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01:45:19,508 --> 01:45:20,409
have the ceo recommendation, let

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01:45:20,409 --> 01:45:22,645
us have our augmentation

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01:45:22,645 --> 01:45:24,470
requests, and let's have a

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01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:26,447
robust discussion in public

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01:45:27,183 --> 01:45:28,584
about our budget. You went into

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01:45:28,584 --> 01:45:30,319
closed session. You came out.

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01:45:30,319 --> 01:45:33,155
There was an opening statement.

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01:45:33,155 --> 01:45:33,422
You didn't even go through each

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01:45:33,422 --> 01:45:34,223
program --

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01:45:34,223 --> 01:45:34,484
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

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01:45:34,484 --> 01:45:36,580
you

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01:45:36,580 --> 01:45:37,920
>>speaker: to discuss the

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01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:37,614
budget. Please change this

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01:45:37,614 --> 01:45:38,930
budget process

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01:45:38,930 --> 01:45:38,642
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

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01:45:38,642 --> 01:45:40,396
you.

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01:45:40,396 --> 01:45:41,363
>>clerk, robin stieler: the next

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01:45:41,363 --> 01:45:43,432
three individuals, please come

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01:45:43,432 --> 01:45:45,832
forward, arissa palmer, cindy

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01:45:47,169 --> 01:45:49,569
young and charles barfield.

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01:45:49,605 --> 01:45:51,175
>>speaker: good morning. First

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01:45:51,175 --> 01:45:52,842
I want to thank you all for

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01:45:52,842 --> 01:45:55,242
having meetings with breast-feed

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01:45:56,978 --> 01:46:00,415
L.A. Our first five oc team and

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01:46:00,415 --> 01:46:02,317
the naacp oc, my name is

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01:46:02,317 --> 01:46:04,119
jennifer roberson. I won't

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01:46:04,119 --> 01:46:04,954
belabor the reasons why orange

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01:46:04,954 --> 01:46:05,787
county health care agency

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01:46:05,787 --> 01:46:07,155
decided not to accept

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01:46:07,155 --> 01:46:09,291
continuation funding. I just

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01:46:09,291 --> 01:46:11,600
want to update you that

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01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:12,270
breast-feed L.A. Has met with

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01:46:12,270 --> 01:46:13,828
orange county health care agency

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01:46:13,828 --> 01:46:16,164
along with our first five

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01:46:16,164 --> 01:46:19,301
partners and the naacp, and they

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01:46:19,301 --> 01:46:20,903
have committed -- our leadership

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01:46:20,903 --> 01:46:22,437
have committed to going hard

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01:46:22,437 --> 01:46:24,273
ahead and accepting that funding

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01:46:24,273 --> 01:46:25,440
from the state. I now put the

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01:46:25,440 --> 01:46:28,760
next ball in your court and ask

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01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,760
that our board of supervisors

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01:46:31,613 --> 01:46:32,647
commit to asking for oversight.

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01:46:32,647 --> 01:46:34,749
They require orange county

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01:46:34,749 --> 01:46:37,118
health care agency to submit a

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01:46:37,118 --> 01:46:38,587
formal request to the cdph to

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01:46:38,587 --> 01:46:40,880
accept that continuation fund

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01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,880
nothing later than JUNE 25th

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01:46:43,291 --> 01:46:44,250
and require ochca to present a

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01:46:44,250 --> 01:46:46,261
formal request plan for

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01:46:46,261 --> 01:46:47,290
continuation funding at the next

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01:46:47,290 --> 01:46:49,398
board of supervisors meeting.

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01:46:49,398 --> 01:46:50,165
Thank you for all of your

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01:46:50,165 --> 01:46:51,330
continued support of black

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01:46:51,330 --> 01:46:52,234
families in orange county

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01:46:52,234 --> 01:46:53,936
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

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01:46:53,936 --> 01:46:56,739
you, ma'am. MAY we have the

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01:46:56,739 --> 01:46:57,306
next speaker please? Of

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01:46:57,306 --> 01:46:58,641
>>speaker: good morning. My

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01:46:58,641 --> 01:47:00,577
name is arissa palmer, the

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01:47:00,577 --> 01:47:01,850
executive director for

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01:47:01,850 --> 01:47:02,412
breast-feed L.A., the

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01:47:02,412 --> 01:47:03,379
organization selected to

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01:47:03,379 --> 01:47:04,747
administer orange county's first

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01:47:04,747 --> 01:47:07,147
ever black infant health

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01:47:07,850 --> 01:47:09,152
program. Today we respectfully

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01:47:09,152 --> 01:47:10,386
ask the board to take immediate

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01:47:10,386 --> 01:47:12,888
action to preserve this vital

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01:47:12,888 --> 01:47:14,624
program. Firstly we ask to you

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01:47:14,624 --> 01:47:16,859
direct orange county health care

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01:47:16,859 --> 01:47:18,594
agency to formally request

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01:47:18,594 --> 01:47:21,330
continuation funding for cdph no

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01:47:21,330 --> 01:47:23,990
later than JUNE 25th with all

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01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:25,201
subcontractors included on that

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01:47:25,201 --> 01:47:26,135
email for transparency and to

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01:47:26,135 --> 01:47:28,471
accept fund thatting within one

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01:47:28,471 --> 01:47:29,973
week of approval. Finally we

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01:47:29,973 --> 01:47:30,907
ask to you support a sole source

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01:47:30,907 --> 01:47:32,508
agreement with first five orange

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01:47:32,508 --> 01:47:35,311
county, so services can continue

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01:47:35,311 --> 01:47:36,846
for families without disruption

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01:47:36,846 --> 01:47:38,481
while a long-term solution is

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01:47:38,481 --> 01:47:40,481
established. The question

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01:47:40,583 --> 01:47:41,283
before us is not whether

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01:47:41,283 --> 01:47:42,985
disparities exist. The data is

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01:47:42,985 --> 01:47:44,286
clear that it does. The

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01:47:44,286 --> 01:47:46,288
question is whether orange

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01:47:46,288 --> 01:47:47,856
county will continue investing

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01:47:47,856 --> 01:47:49,125
in a be proven solution that

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01:47:49,125 --> 01:47:51,125
directly supports mothers,

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01:47:51,995 --> 01:47:54,995
babies, and families. We urge

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01:47:55,197 --> 01:47:56,131
to you act swiftly so that the

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01:47:56,131 --> 01:47:57,734
progress we have made is not

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01:47:57,734 --> 01:47:59,335
lost and that black families in

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01:47:59,335 --> 01:48:00,469
orange county know their health

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01:48:00,469 --> 01:48:01,437
and well-being will remain a

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01:48:01,437 --> 01:48:02,237
priority. Thank you

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01:48:02,237 --> 01:48:04,637
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

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01:48:05,307 --> 01:48:06,175
you, ma'am.

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01:48:06,175 --> 01:48:07,544
>>speaker: good morning,

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01:48:07,544 --> 01:48:10,479
supervisors. My name is cindy

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01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:11,581
young, and I serve as director

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01:48:11,581 --> 01:48:13,583
of strategic partnerships for

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01:48:13,583 --> 01:48:14,216
breast-feed L.A. Over the past

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01:48:14,216 --> 01:48:15,818
several months community

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01:48:15,818 --> 01:48:16,853
members, partners and

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01:48:16,853 --> 01:48:18,955
stakeholders have heard varying

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01:48:18,955 --> 01:48:20,456
explanations regarding the cost

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01:48:20,456 --> 01:48:21,523
and sustainability of the black

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01:48:21,523 --> 01:48:22,791
infant health program yet to

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01:48:22,791 --> 01:48:23,693
date we have not received a

2371
01:48:23,693 --> 01:48:25,328
complete accounting of how

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01:48:25,328 --> 01:48:27,728
program funds were actually

2373
01:48:28,300 --> 01:48:28,564
spent. We respectfully request

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01:48:28,564 --> 01:48:29,532
full transparency from the

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01:48:29,532 --> 01:48:31,166
orange county health care

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01:48:31,166 --> 01:48:31,967
agency. Specifically we ask for

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01:48:31,967 --> 01:48:34,269
a detailed accounting of all

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01:48:34,269 --> 01:48:35,404
funds allocated and expended for

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01:48:35,404 --> 01:48:37,539
black infant health, not just

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01:48:37,539 --> 01:48:39,776
projected costs. This should

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01:48:39,776 --> 01:48:40,843
include any expenditures covered

2382
01:48:40,843 --> 01:48:42,779
through health realignment funds

2383
01:48:42,779 --> 01:48:44,481
and a clear breakdown of how

2384
01:48:44,481 --> 01:48:45,248
public dollars were utilized.

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01:48:45,248 --> 01:48:46,616
This information should be

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01:48:46,616 --> 01:48:47,550
provided to each member of this

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01:48:47,550 --> 01:48:49,252
board, first five orange county,

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01:48:49,252 --> 01:48:51,388
and breast-feed L.A. We also

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01:48:51,388 --> 01:48:52,880
ask that orange county health

2390
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:53,590
care agency commit to

2391
01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:55,910
understanding and fully

2392
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:57,910
utilizing available funding

2393
01:48:57,427 --> 01:48:59,620
opportunities including the pair

2394
01:48:59,620 --> 01:49:00,330
natal equity initiative. Orange

2395
01:49:00,330 --> 01:49:03,266
county should not leave state

2396
01:49:03,266 --> 01:49:05,668
resources on the table when

2397
01:49:05,668 --> 01:49:07,137
those funds exist to

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01:49:07,137 --> 01:49:08,338
specifically address maternal

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01:49:08,338 --> 01:49:10,440
and infant health inequities.

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01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:11,508
We urge the county to pursue

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01:49:11,508 --> 01:49:12,342
these opportunities in a timely

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01:49:12,342 --> 01:49:13,477
and strategic matter

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01:49:13,477 --> 01:49:15,812
>>clerk, robin stieler: and the

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01:49:15,812 --> 01:49:17,314
next three speakers, please come

2405
01:49:17,314 --> 01:49:19,314
forward, tanya livingston,

2406
01:49:20,249 --> 01:49:21,251
molina gibson and jasmine alan

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01:49:21,251 --> 01:49:23,587
>>speaker: good morning, charles

2408
01:49:23,587 --> 01:49:24,788
barfield, oca's general manager.

2409
01:49:24,788 --> 01:49:25,788
I was going to riddle you for 2

2410
01:49:25,788 --> 01:49:27,390
minutes on vacancies, deletions

2411
01:49:27,390 --> 01:49:29,693
and workload, but since I only

2412
01:49:29,693 --> 01:49:32,610
have 1 minute, let me get right

2413
01:49:32,610 --> 01:49:33,563
to it. Buried in this final

2414
01:49:33,563 --> 01:49:35,598
budget resolution are two

2415
01:49:35,598 --> 01:49:37,990
cost-saving measures. One aimed

2416
01:49:37,990 --> 01:49:39,335
at retirement and another one

2417
01:49:39,335 --> 01:49:42,335
aimed at part-time plus. There

2418
01:49:42,839 --> 01:49:44,340
is no way ocea can sign off on

2419
01:49:44,340 --> 01:49:46,576
this in its current form. I've

2420
01:49:46,576 --> 01:49:48,770
been told that there are 2000

2421
01:49:48,770 --> 01:49:48,945
county workers there are

2422
01:49:48,945 --> 01:49:51,470
eligible for this, and with the

2423
01:49:51,470 --> 01:49:52,749
proceed violations that call for

2424
01:49:52,749 --> 01:49:54,749
automatic and permanent

2425
01:49:54,984 --> 01:49:57,320
deletions, it's a non-starter

2426
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:00,556
for us. My last comment is not

2427
01:50:00,556 --> 01:50:03,260
addressed to this board, but

2428
01:50:03,260 --> 01:50:04,928
rather to 12 employees in the

2429
01:50:04,928 --> 01:50:07,960
D.A., dna collection unit and

2430
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:08,970
their families. For the last

2431
01:50:08,970 --> 01:50:09,633
couple weeks, you know, we've

2432
01:50:09,633 --> 01:50:12,633
struggled to get answers from

2433
01:50:13,169 --> 01:50:14,670
the county on certain aspects

2434
01:50:14,670 --> 01:50:16,506
of -- or promises that have been

2435
01:50:16,506 --> 01:50:17,907
made. Finally, last night at

2436
01:50:17,907 --> 01:50:20,177
8:00 the county put their

2437
01:50:20,177 --> 01:50:21,545
commitment in writing. And I'm

2438
01:50:21,545 --> 01:50:23,246
speaking to the 12 employees and

2439
01:50:23,246 --> 01:50:24,947
their families. Yes, it took

2440
01:50:24,947 --> 01:50:27,317
longer, it should not have taken

2441
01:50:27,317 --> 01:50:27,985
this long, and, you shouldn't

2442
01:50:27,985 --> 01:50:29,553
have been placed in such

2443
01:50:29,553 --> 01:50:31,121
uncertainty. But we got there,

2444
01:50:31,121 --> 01:50:33,156
and we got there together.

2445
01:50:33,156 --> 01:50:35,359
Thank you for your time.

2446
01:50:35,359 --> 01:50:38,359
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

2447
01:50:40,730 --> 01:50:42,730
you.

2448
01:50:44,670 --> 01:50:45,368
>>speaker: hello. My name is

2449
01:50:45,368 --> 01:50:46,903
tanaya livingston and a

2450
01:50:46,903 --> 01:50:48,472
participant of bih orange

2451
01:50:48,472 --> 01:50:49,473
county. I'm a black mother who

2452
01:50:49,473 --> 01:50:50,406
has been directly affected by

2453
01:50:50,406 --> 01:50:51,774
race. And I discrimination by

2454
01:50:51,774 --> 01:50:53,310
the medical system that has not

2455
01:50:53,310 --> 01:50:54,545
been designed in the favor of

2456
01:50:54,545 --> 01:50:56,412
mothers who look like myself.

2457
01:50:56,412 --> 01:50:59,116
Black mothers depend on bih to

2458
01:50:59,116 --> 01:50:59,750
be able to gain resources and

2459
01:50:59,750 --> 01:51:01,418
support where the system failed

2460
01:51:01,418 --> 01:51:02,586
us. There is no community nor

2461
01:51:02,586 --> 01:51:04,855
support that directly identifys

2462
01:51:04,855 --> 01:51:06,289
and intentionally supports the

2463
01:51:06,289 --> 01:51:07,791
indifferences that black mothers

2464
01:51:07,791 --> 01:51:10,191
experience with prenatal and

2465
01:51:10,828 --> 01:51:11,762
postpartum complications. It is

2466
01:51:11,762 --> 01:51:14,464
vital for the community and for

2467
01:51:14,464 --> 01:51:16,699
the future of african-americans

2468
01:51:16,699 --> 01:51:17,701
to have this support. Thank

2469
01:51:17,701 --> 01:51:19,701
you.

2470
01:51:20,303 --> 01:51:23,303
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

2471
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:25,840
you.

2472
01:51:26,750 --> 01:51:27,677
>>speaker: hello. My name is

2473
01:51:27,677 --> 01:51:30,130
molina gibson, I'm a

2474
01:51:30,130 --> 01:51:31,414
credentialed former elementary

2475
01:51:31,414 --> 01:51:32,949
teacher, a board certified

2476
01:51:32,949 --> 01:51:35,349
behavioral analyst and a

2477
01:51:35,352 --> 01:51:37,120
birthing doula. I work with

2478
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:38,354
infants all the way to adults.

2479
01:51:38,354 --> 01:51:39,989
A lot this work is in the

2480
01:51:39,989 --> 01:51:41,624
disability realm. Since I

2481
01:51:41,624 --> 01:51:44,794
started birth work it has been

2482
01:51:44,794 --> 01:51:46,963
made clear that preconception

2483
01:51:46,963 --> 01:51:49,299
birth and postpartum experiences

2484
01:51:49,299 --> 01:51:52,899
can play a fundamental role in

2485
01:51:53,536 --> 01:51:56,536
the infants' overall growth and

2486
01:51:56,739 --> 01:51:57,708
development. To kind of tie

2487
01:51:57,708 --> 01:51:59,710
this all back in, as you heard,

2488
01:51:59,710 --> 01:52:02,111
black women in the united states

2489
01:52:02,111 --> 01:52:03,113
face maternal mortality rates

2490
01:52:03,113 --> 01:52:06,490
nearly three times higher than

2491
01:52:06,490 --> 01:52:07,150
their counterparts, a disparity

2492
01:52:07,150 --> 01:52:09,252
that urgent action. I'm calling

2493
01:52:09,252 --> 01:52:12,252
on the supervisor to mandate

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01:52:13,657 --> 01:52:16,600
that ochca, first five, and oc

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01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:16,861
and breast-feed L.A. To identify

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01:52:16,861 --> 01:52:19,196
and commit to a sustainable path

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01:52:19,196 --> 01:52:20,197
forward for black infant health

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01:52:20,197 --> 01:52:22,934
in orange county. Thank you.

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01:52:22,934 --> 01:52:25,334
>>clerk, robin stieler: karen

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01:52:27,570 --> 01:52:30,570
costin, leah burk quest and

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01:52:34,912 --> 01:52:36,847
chandra caldwell.

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01:52:36,847 --> 01:52:37,782
>>speaker: hello, in one year

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01:52:37,782 --> 01:52:39,283
since our program's inception we

2504
01:52:39,283 --> 01:52:41,719
have served over 70 mom ands

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01:52:41,719 --> 01:52:43,821
their families, been designated

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01:52:43,821 --> 01:52:44,922
as a model program by the cdph

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01:52:44,922 --> 01:52:46,922
and established relationships

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01:52:47,458 --> 01:52:48,492
between the county based and

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01:52:48,492 --> 01:52:50,892
community based program alike.

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01:52:51,795 --> 01:52:54,130
The bih supports various county

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01:52:54,130 --> 01:52:55,132
and statewide he public health

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01:52:55,132 --> 01:52:57,132
initiatives, promoting safe

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01:52:57,434 --> 01:53:00,434
sleep mark term mental health,

2514
01:53:00,671 --> 01:53:02,906
child passenger safety and asus

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01:53:02,906 --> 01:53:04,975
prevention. However, we are

2516
01:53:04,975 --> 01:53:06,643
only a pilot program serving 2%

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01:53:06,643 --> 01:53:08,745
of the population. The black

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01:53:08,745 --> 01:53:12,345
community is twice as large as

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01:53:13,316 --> 01:53:15,118
the entire ousd k-12 population,

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01:53:15,118 --> 01:53:16,654
yet programming is always under

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01:53:16,654 --> 01:53:18,389
contention. I'm asking you to

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01:53:18,389 --> 01:53:21,989
take the lives of black mothers

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01:53:21,993 --> 01:53:24,270
and babies as seriously as you

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01:53:24,270 --> 01:53:25,128
do the education for all of your

2525
01:53:25,128 --> 01:53:26,764
children in orange county. We

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01:53:26,764 --> 01:53:28,733
are calling for the same fiscal

2527
01:53:28,733 --> 01:53:29,634
transparency that you expect of

2528
01:53:29,634 --> 01:53:32,340
your constituents. Thank you

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01:53:32,303 --> 01:53:35,303
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

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01:53:38,142 --> 01:53:39,876
you.

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01:53:39,876 --> 01:53:42,846
>>speaker: my name is karen

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01:53:42,846 --> 01:53:44,916
costin from black infant health

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01:53:44,916 --> 01:53:47,316
kern county. Every baby

2534
01:53:48,510 --> 01:53:49,787
deserves an equal chance and

2535
01:53:49,787 --> 01:53:51,388
healthy stock market yet black

2536
01:53:51,388 --> 01:53:52,657
infants continue to experience

2537
01:53:52,657 --> 01:53:55,920
higher rates of infant mortality

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01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:57,610
and poor health outcomes in

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01:53:57,610 --> 01:53:58,162
every group. They are related

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01:53:58,162 --> 01:53:59,597
to differences and access to

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01:53:59,597 --> 01:54:01,199
quality health care mark term

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01:54:01,199 --> 01:54:02,567
support, safehousing and other

2543
01:54:02,567 --> 01:54:04,702
resources that help families

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01:54:04,702 --> 01:54:05,536
thrive. Investing in black

2545
01:54:05,536 --> 01:54:07,372
infant health benefits our

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01:54:07,372 --> 01:54:09,674
entire community. While mothers

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01:54:09,674 --> 01:54:11,175
receive culturally responsive

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01:54:11,175 --> 01:54:13,211
prenatal and postpartum care,

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01:54:13,211 --> 01:54:14,712
mental health support and access

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01:54:14,712 --> 01:54:16,581
to trusted community-based

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01:54:16,581 --> 01:54:18,550
services, babies are more likely

2552
01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:20,840
to be born healthy and reach

2553
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:20,985
their full potential. I

2554
01:54:20,985 --> 01:54:23,985
encourage the board to continue

2555
01:54:24,622 --> 01:54:25,723
supporting this program that

2556
01:54:25,723 --> 01:54:26,524
reduces disparities and

2557
01:54:26,524 --> 01:54:28,524
prioritizing black infant

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01:54:28,826 --> 01:54:30,161
health. We are investing in

2559
01:54:30,161 --> 01:54:30,929
healthier families, stronger

2560
01:54:30,929 --> 01:54:31,863
communities and a brighter

2561
01:54:31,863 --> 01:54:34,599
future for orange county. Thank

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01:54:34,599 --> 01:54:34,913
you for your time and

2563
01:54:34,913 --> 01:54:36,913
commitment

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01:54:37,435 --> 01:54:40,435
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

2565
01:54:48,460 --> 01:54:50,460
you.

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01:54:50,148 --> 01:54:50,982
>>speaker: good morning, my name

2567
01:54:50,982 --> 01:54:53,417
is chandra. I'm asking for

2568
01:54:53,417 --> 01:54:54,752
truth and transparency. Imagine

2569
01:54:54,752 --> 01:54:56,187
being born african-american and

2570
01:54:56,187 --> 01:54:57,856
we all know the history of

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01:54:57,856 --> 01:54:58,756
america. African-americans run

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01:54:58,756 --> 01:55:00,758
fortunately still feeling the

2573
01:55:00,758 --> 01:55:01,759
side effects of slavery. The

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01:55:01,759 --> 01:55:03,895
black infant mortality rate is

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01:55:03,895 --> 01:55:04,995
really high in orange county.

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01:55:04,995 --> 01:55:06,931
Black infant health was here to

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01:55:06,931 --> 01:55:09,133
combat that. That being said,

2578
01:55:09,133 --> 01:55:10,670
as you imagine being

2579
01:55:10,670 --> 01:55:12,369
african-american, how would you

2580
01:55:12,369 --> 01:55:14,138
handle racism? How would you

2581
01:55:14,138 --> 01:55:15,306
handle discrimination? How

2582
01:55:15,306 --> 01:55:17,142
would you handle a system built

2583
01:55:17,142 --> 01:55:18,643
against you in having a safe

2584
01:55:18,643 --> 01:55:20,844
place as a mother being taken

2585
01:55:20,844 --> 01:55:22,479
away due to lies and

2586
01:55:22,479 --> 01:55:24,479
discriminatory action? We're

2587
01:55:26,417 --> 01:55:27,685
asking for transparency with the

2588
01:55:27,685 --> 01:55:29,887
budget, liberty, and justice for

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01:55:29,887 --> 01:55:30,988
all. And african-americans are

2590
01:55:30,988 --> 01:55:33,988
included in that "all" because

2591
01:55:36,928 --> 01:55:39,129
we're all created under the

2592
01:55:39,129 --> 01:55:39,864
equal, in GOD's eyes

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01:55:39,864 --> 01:55:40,930
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

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01:55:40,930 --> 01:55:42,930
you.

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01:55:43,167 --> 01:55:45,567
>>clerk, robin stieler: keisha

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01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:48,240
harris, amonte randolph and

2597
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:49,341
deborah donothan.

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01:55:49,341 --> 01:55:52,341
>>speaker: good morning, my name

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01:55:52,544 --> 01:55:53,712
is leah bjurquist, a certified

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01:55:53,712 --> 01:55:55,314
child birth educator and

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01:55:55,314 --> 01:55:56,715
certified doula and I serve on

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01:55:56,715 --> 01:55:59,715
the board of directors for

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01:55:59,751 --> 01:56:02,751
breast-feed L.A. The maternal

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01:56:04,790 --> 01:56:07,790
mortality rate for black mothers

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01:56:08,460 --> 01:56:10,762
are expedientially higher than

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01:56:10,762 --> 01:56:12,230
their white counterparts. I

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01:56:12,230 --> 01:56:13,597
have been witness to the

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01:56:13,597 --> 01:56:14,166
inequities and we are

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01:56:14,166 --> 01:56:16,167
respectfully asking that you

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01:56:16,167 --> 01:56:19,167
stand with black families and

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01:56:20,370 --> 01:56:21,273
demand that ochca immediately

2612
01:56:21,273 --> 01:56:23,673
pursue continuation funding and

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01:56:25,143 --> 01:56:27,411
work with first five oc and

2614
01:56:27,411 --> 01:56:29,246
breast-feed L.A. To ensure black

2615
01:56:29,246 --> 01:56:31,483
infant health remains in orange

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01:56:31,483 --> 01:56:33,685
county. I'm asking you to

2617
01:56:33,685 --> 01:56:35,286
establish a pathway for

2618
01:56:35,286 --> 01:56:37,686
implementation, award a sole

2619
01:56:38,423 --> 01:56:41,525
source contract to first five oc

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01:56:41,525 --> 01:56:44,395
so breast-feed L.A. Can continue

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01:56:44,395 --> 01:56:47,320
operating black infant health in

2622
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:49,432
oc without interruption. Thank

2623
01:56:51,235 --> 01:56:53,235
you.

2624
01:56:53,572 --> 01:56:54,973
>>speaker: good morning, my name

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01:56:54,973 --> 01:56:57,208
is keisha harris, and I am a

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01:56:57,208 --> 01:56:57,743
mental health professional with

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01:56:57,743 --> 01:56:59,770
black infant health orange

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01:56:59,770 --> 01:57:00,544
county. I'm here today to ask

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01:57:00,544 --> 01:57:01,646
for your support in keeping

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01:57:01,646 --> 01:57:04,349
black infant health in orange

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01:57:04,349 --> 01:57:05,316
county. This program provides

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01:57:05,316 --> 01:57:06,852
critical support to black

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01:57:06,852 --> 01:57:09,200
mothers, babies and families

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01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:10,655
helping address the disparities

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01:57:10,655 --> 01:57:13,357
that continue to impact black

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01:57:13,357 --> 01:57:15,694
maternal and infant health.

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01:57:15,694 --> 01:57:17,528
We're asking the board to direct

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01:57:17,528 --> 01:57:19,928
ochca to immediately secure

2639
01:57:22,330 --> 01:57:23,569
continuation funding present --

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01:57:23,569 --> 01:57:25,690
a clear plan to keep the program

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01:57:25,690 --> 01:57:27,506
operating and work with first

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01:57:27,506 --> 01:57:28,373
five oc and breast-feed L.A. To

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01:57:28,373 --> 01:57:29,875
ensure there's no interruption

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01:57:29,875 --> 01:57:31,310
in services. We also ask for

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01:57:31,310 --> 01:57:34,310
transparency about how fund has

2646
01:57:34,747 --> 01:57:35,247
been used and a commitment to

2647
01:57:35,247 --> 01:57:36,682
pursuing future funding

2648
01:57:36,682 --> 01:57:38,317
opportunities. As someone who

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01:57:38,317 --> 01:57:40,352
works directly with participates

2650
01:57:40,352 --> 01:57:42,755
and growing up in orange county,

2651
01:57:42,755 --> 01:57:44,857
I see the impact this program

2652
01:57:44,857 --> 01:57:47,459
has every day. The families we

2653
01:57:47,459 --> 01:57:48,280
serve rely on these services,

2654
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:49,728
relationships and resources.

2655
01:57:49,728 --> 01:57:51,664
They should not have to worry

2656
01:57:51,664 --> 01:57:53,465
about having -- about losing a

2657
01:57:53,465 --> 01:57:55,567
program that is helping them

2658
01:57:55,567 --> 01:57:57,369
thrive. I urge you to take

2659
01:57:57,369 --> 01:57:58,970
action today to ensure black

2660
01:57:58,970 --> 01:58:00,906
infant health remains available

2661
01:58:00,906 --> 01:58:01,141
to the families in orange

2662
01:58:01,141 --> 01:58:01,707
county

2663
01:58:01,707 --> 01:58:04,107
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

2664
01:58:07,790 --> 01:58:09,790
you, ma'am.

2665
01:58:10,915 --> 01:58:12,750
>>speaker: my name is imani

2666
01:58:12,750 --> 01:58:15,540
randolph, a youngish ph.D.

2667
01:58:15,540 --> 01:58:17,255
Student at uc irvine, who has

2668
01:58:17,255 --> 01:58:19,425
grown to love the uniqueness of

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01:58:19,425 --> 01:58:20,425
orange county. As I look toward

2670
01:58:20,425 --> 01:58:21,961
graduation, knowing I've done

2671
01:58:21,961 --> 01:58:24,961
everything that has been asked

2672
01:58:25,664 --> 01:58:26,965
of myself in my generation

2673
01:58:26,965 --> 01:58:27,899
including going to 62, giving

2674
01:58:27,899 --> 01:58:28,800
back to my community, looking

2675
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:30,436
forward to getting a good job

2676
01:58:30,436 --> 01:58:32,104
and hopefully being able to

2677
01:58:32,104 --> 01:58:33,338
start a family, I'm faced with

2678
01:58:33,338 --> 01:58:36,175
the reality that I'm more than

2679
01:58:36,175 --> 01:58:37,800
three times likely to die

2680
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:39,245
pursuing those goals as my

2681
01:58:39,245 --> 01:58:41,120
counter-arts and if I survive my

2682
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:41,980
child will be two part-times

2683
01:58:41,980 --> 01:58:43,348
times as likely to die in

2684
01:58:43,348 --> 01:58:44,916
infancy. This is not only my

2685
01:58:44,916 --> 01:58:46,518
reality but the reality of over

2686
01:58:46,518 --> 01:58:47,886
50,000 families here in orange

2687
01:58:47,886 --> 01:58:49,287
county. Knowing this, I was

2688
01:58:49,287 --> 01:58:51,550
encouraged by knowing that black

2689
01:58:51,550 --> 01:58:52,424
infant health was a sustainable

2690
01:58:52,424 --> 01:58:54,824
effort to support those

2691
01:58:54,859 --> 01:58:56,628
families. However, now they

2692
01:58:56,628 --> 01:58:59,565
face lack of funding, and I am

2693
01:58:59,565 --> 01:59:01,734
asking that you all seek to

2694
01:59:01,734 --> 01:59:03,935
encourage and support a

2695
01:59:03,935 --> 01:59:05,935
collaborative solution that

2696
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:09,274
directs ochca, first five, and

2697
01:59:09,274 --> 01:59:10,642
breast-feed L.A. To identify and

2698
01:59:10,642 --> 01:59:12,611
execute a sustainable path to

2699
01:59:12,611 --> 01:59:13,278
keep black infant healthy in

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01:59:13,278 --> 01:59:15,278
orange county

2701
01:59:15,748 --> 01:59:17,884
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

2702
01:59:17,884 --> 01:59:19,285
you.

2703
01:59:19,285 --> 01:59:20,920
>>speaker: good morning. My

2704
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:22,521
name is deborah donothan.

2705
01:59:22,521 --> 01:59:24,790
Before approving the budget, I

2706
01:59:24,790 --> 01:59:27,590
asked the board to make clear

2707
01:59:27,590 --> 01:59:29,295
how much fund something going

2708
01:59:29,295 --> 01:59:31,695
into behavioral health, court

2709
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:34,100
connected services, care court,

2710
01:59:34,100 --> 01:59:35,600
conservatorship-related systems,

2711
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:37,770
crisis response placements and

2712
01:59:37,770 --> 01:59:38,604
prevention. The public deserves

2713
01:59:38,604 --> 01:59:40,600
outcome measures to ensure the

2714
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:42,108
people are being stabilized in

2715
01:59:42,108 --> 01:59:43,943
the community or pushed deeper

2716
01:59:43,943 --> 01:59:45,943
into courts, institutions,

2717
01:59:46,145 --> 01:59:48,145
conservatorships or restrictive

2718
01:59:48,381 --> 01:59:49,448
placements, county funding

2719
01:59:49,448 --> 01:59:50,950
should protect families,

2720
01:59:50,950 --> 01:59:52,819
disability rights, prevention

2721
01:59:52,819 --> 01:59:54,190
and community-based care, not

2722
01:59:54,190 --> 01:59:56,855
quietly expand systems that lead

2723
01:59:56,855 --> 01:59:57,856
to loss of rights. Thank you.

2724
01:59:57,856 --> 01:59:59,958
>>clerk, robin stieler: no

2725
01:59:59,958 --> 02:00:01,660
further speakers, MR. Chair

2726
02:00:01,660 --> 02:00:02,427
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

2727
02:00:02,427 --> 02:00:03,963
you, MADAM Clerk. Board

2728
02:00:03,963 --> 02:00:05,364
members, do we have any staff

2729
02:00:05,364 --> 02:00:08,364
presentations you'd like to hear

2730
02:00:12,337 --> 02:00:13,840
from? I don't see any. Okay.

2731
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:15,507
Supervisor sarmiento?

2732
02:00:15,507 --> 02:00:16,141
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

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02:00:16,141 --> 02:00:17,643
MR. Chair. I'm simply going to

2734
02:00:17,643 --> 02:00:21,243
go ahead and make my comments

2735
02:00:21,416 --> 02:00:23,480
that we -- that I partially made

2736
02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:25,350
at previous straw vote meeting

2737
02:00:25,350 --> 02:00:27,386
at the last time -- last time we

2738
02:00:27,386 --> 02:00:28,487
heard the budget item. I want

2739
02:00:28,487 --> 02:00:30,223
to reiterate on recommended

2740
02:00:30,223 --> 02:00:32,623
action number 1, program 1, I

2741
02:00:33,726 --> 02:00:35,995
will be a "no" vote based upon

2742
02:00:35,995 --> 02:00:39,498
the arguments made then. I also

2743
02:00:39,498 --> 02:00:41,166
want to ask our ceo, I know

2744
02:00:41,166 --> 02:00:42,135
we've received many comments

2745
02:00:42,135 --> 02:00:43,535
regarding a potential

2746
02:00:43,535 --> 02:00:45,104
coordinated re-entry center in

2747
02:00:45,104 --> 02:00:47,373
the city of santa ana, which is

2748
02:00:47,373 --> 02:00:48,774
different from our workforce

2749
02:00:48,774 --> 02:00:52,210
re-entry in the city of orange.

2750
02:00:52,210 --> 02:00:54,947
So I want to clarify, MADAM Ceo,

2751
02:00:54,947 --> 02:00:56,648
does this budget that we're

2752
02:00:56,648 --> 02:00:58,351
deliberating and potentially

2753
02:00:58,351 --> 02:01:00,654
adopting today include the

2754
02:01:00,654 --> 02:01:02,288
re-entry project on hesperian

2755
02:01:02,288 --> 02:01:03,123
and the city of santa ana?

2756
02:01:03,123 --> 02:01:05,523
>>michelle aguirre: the budget

2757
02:01:06,425 --> 02:01:08,161
adoption today for fiscal year

2758
02:01:08,161 --> 02:01:09,796
'26/'27 does not approve the

2759
02:01:09,796 --> 02:01:11,498
project. It does not commit the

2760
02:01:11,498 --> 02:01:13,399
county to moving forward with

2761
02:01:13,399 --> 02:01:14,334
that project, supervisor

2762
02:01:14,334 --> 02:01:15,734
sarmiento great, thank you. I

2763
02:01:15,734 --> 02:01:18,770
just wanted to make sure we have

2764
02:01:18,770 --> 02:01:19,606
that on the record as we

2765
02:01:19,606 --> 02:01:21,374
we have

2766
02:01:21,374 --> 02:01:22,175
some members of the public and

2767
02:01:22,175 --> 02:01:23,410
members of the city council from

2768
02:01:23,410 --> 02:01:25,645
santa ana that wanted to make

2769
02:01:25,645 --> 02:01:27,947
comment on that. So thank you

2770
02:01:27,947 --> 02:01:30,947
for clarifying. I also wanted

2771
02:01:31,284 --> 02:01:35,210
to make comeant on item -- on

2772
02:01:35,210 --> 02:01:37,589
recommended action 29. So I did

2773
02:01:37,589 --> 02:01:40,960
hear MR. Barfield come before us

2774
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:43,360
and explain that potentially

2775
02:01:44,130 --> 02:01:45,297
2000 employees could qualify for

2776
02:01:45,297 --> 02:01:46,733
the requirement assistance

2777
02:01:46,733 --> 02:01:49,401
program and the way that the

2778
02:01:49,401 --> 02:01:51,170
policy is currently written,

2779
02:01:51,170 --> 02:01:53,405
every position that someone

2780
02:01:53,405 --> 02:01:54,152
retires out of could be

2781
02:01:54,152 --> 02:01:56,552
considered for deletion. I

2782
02:01:56,643 --> 02:01:57,910
thank you for sending a memo to

2783
02:01:57,910 --> 02:01:58,911
us right now with some

2784
02:01:58,911 --> 02:02:01,311
additional language. But we

2785
02:02:02,750 --> 02:02:04,884
know if this -- if this is

2786
02:02:04,884 --> 02:02:07,530
exercised we could have a huge

2787
02:02:07,530 --> 02:02:08,530
impact on our workforce if

2788
02:02:08,530 --> 02:02:10,357
everybody took us up on that.

2789
02:02:10,357 --> 02:02:13,357
Before we delete any positions,

2790
02:02:13,894 --> 02:02:15,728
I know that the amend red line

2791
02:02:15,728 --> 02:02:19,928
version is that it would be at

2792
02:02:23,103 --> 02:02:24,703
discretion and purview of the

2793
02:02:24,703 --> 02:02:25,297
county -- what I would like to

2794
02:02:25,297 --> 02:02:27,240
add for the board's

2795
02:02:27,240 --> 02:02:29,441
consideration is to ask that

2796
02:02:29,441 --> 02:02:31,677
staff bring the vacancy list

2797
02:02:31,677 --> 02:02:33,413
back to the board for

2798
02:02:33,413 --> 02:02:35,414
consideration. That way we can

2799
02:02:35,414 --> 02:02:36,983
have another -- maybe five pair

2800
02:02:36,983 --> 02:02:38,752
of eyes look at, this but I do

2801
02:02:38,752 --> 02:02:40,119
think that this is something

2802
02:02:40,119 --> 02:02:42,756
that -- with respect to

2803
02:02:42,756 --> 02:02:44,691
workforce impacts here, is

2804
02:02:44,691 --> 02:02:46,392
important for us to also be able

2805
02:02:46,392 --> 02:02:48,629
to comment and remark on that.

2806
02:02:48,629 --> 02:02:50,364
So I just wanted to make those

2807
02:02:50,364 --> 02:02:52,465
comments, MR. Chair, for the

2808
02:02:52,465 --> 02:02:52,766
record and we'll hand that back

2809
02:02:52,766 --> 02:02:53,500
to you

2810
02:02:53,500 --> 02:02:54,935
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

2811
02:02:54,935 --> 02:02:57,738
you. I might weigh in because

2812
02:02:57,738 --> 02:03:00,700
we do have some additional

2813
02:03:00,700 --> 02:03:01,574
language presented by staff. My

2814
02:03:01,574 --> 02:03:03,143
suggestion would be a little bit

2815
02:03:03,143 --> 02:03:04,811
different, that would be to

2816
02:03:04,811 --> 02:03:07,211
simply eliminate section 4a.

2817
02:03:08,470 --> 02:03:09,650
Not deal with eliminating

2818
02:03:09,650 --> 02:03:12,586
employees. Rather if there's to

2819
02:03:12,586 --> 02:03:13,253
be an elimination, we have

2820
02:03:13,253 --> 02:03:14,120
quarterly updates and staff

2821
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:15,822
could come forward on a

2822
02:03:15,822 --> 02:03:18,822
quarterly basis and indicate if

2823
02:03:19,359 --> 02:03:21,280
some positions would need it be

2824
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:21,761
or consider for vacating

2825
02:03:21,761 --> 02:03:23,326
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

2826
02:03:23,326 --> 02:03:23,563
&

2827
02:03:23,563 --> 02:03:24,131
second that

2828
02:03:24,131 --> 02:03:26,166
>>chair, doug chaffee: just

2829
02:03:26,166 --> 02:03:28,468
eliminate that, leave it open.

2830
02:03:28,468 --> 02:03:31,468
Because we do come back

2831
02:03:31,804 --> 02:03:33,906
quarterly for revisions and then

2832
02:03:33,906 --> 02:03:34,840
this board could consider

2833
02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:36,910
whether it be appropriate. That

2834
02:03:36,910 --> 02:03:37,856
would be my having us

2835
02:03:37,856 --> 02:03:40,114
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.

2836
02:03:40,114 --> 02:03:43,714
I support that request. Also, I

2837
02:03:46,530 --> 02:03:49,530
had some questions about the

2838
02:03:49,856 --> 02:03:51,757
issue that we discussed here

2839
02:03:51,757 --> 02:03:54,727
about the re-entry center. So

2840
02:03:54,727 --> 02:03:57,563
help me understand, because the

2841
02:03:57,563 --> 02:03:58,432
budget -- a straw vote budget

2842
02:03:58,432 --> 02:04:01,601
that we adopted we discussed the

2843
02:04:01,601 --> 02:04:04,601
fact that there was $21 million

2844
02:04:05,205 --> 02:04:08,241
within that budget for the cip

2845
02:04:08,241 --> 02:04:10,843
to pay for phase 1 of that

2846
02:04:10,843 --> 02:04:12,412
project. And then we sort of

2847
02:04:12,412 --> 02:04:14,414
paused that before we could get

2848
02:04:14,414 --> 02:04:17,414
here today. But what has

2849
02:04:17,550 --> 02:04:21,150
changed in the budget to remove

2850
02:04:24,124 --> 02:04:26,226
that $21 million from that cip

2851
02:04:26,226 --> 02:04:27,930
budgeted item

2852
02:04:27,930 --> 02:04:29,930
>>michelle aguirre: supervisor,

2853
02:04:33,670 --> 02:04:35,436
to clarify, so the budget -- we

2854
02:04:35,436 --> 02:04:37,836
budget appropriations within our

2855
02:04:40,740 --> 02:04:42,474
capital project budget. But

2856
02:04:43,100 --> 02:04:43,910
that does not provide any

2857
02:04:43,910 --> 02:04:45,245
authority authorization to move

2858
02:04:45,245 --> 02:04:46,814
forward related to the project

2859
02:04:46,814 --> 02:04:48,649
itself. The board has to

2860
02:04:48,649 --> 02:04:51,490
approve that separately. And

2861
02:04:51,185 --> 02:04:52,886
the board has not considered

2862
02:04:52,886 --> 02:04:57,860
that item yet. That would be in

2863
02:04:57,325 --> 02:04:58,959
the future. So the budget is

2864
02:04:58,959 --> 02:05:00,561
just -- I would say just the

2865
02:05:00,561 --> 02:05:02,996
budget, right. It's just the

2866
02:05:02,996 --> 02:05:04,765
capital project budget that is

2867
02:05:04,765 --> 02:05:06,633
being adopted. It's just the

2868
02:05:06,633 --> 02:05:08,135
appropriations. It's not the

2869
02:05:08,135 --> 02:05:09,169
project itself that is being

2870
02:05:09,169 --> 02:05:10,571
considered today.

2871
02:05:10,571 --> 02:05:13,571
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

2872
02:05:14,340 --> 02:05:15,876
So my concern is that -- and I

2873
02:05:15,876 --> 02:05:19,476
raised this at the last meeting.

2874
02:05:19,545 --> 02:05:20,346
We are right now trying to

2875
02:05:20,346 --> 02:05:23,346
basically find money in the

2876
02:05:23,384 --> 02:05:25,118
budget because we have needs.

2877
02:05:25,118 --> 02:05:28,718
We don't want to have any

2878
02:05:29,623 --> 02:05:32,623
layoffs or terminations, and so

2879
02:05:35,195 --> 02:05:36,930
we have squirreled away -- it's

2880
02:05:36,930 --> 02:05:39,930
$61 million for the phase 1 and

2881
02:05:40,433 --> 02:05:42,869
phase 2 for this project. And I

2882
02:05:42,869 --> 02:05:45,171
had asked previously -- I don't

2883
02:05:45,171 --> 02:05:46,940
think I got that information --

2884
02:05:46,940 --> 02:05:49,940
what percentage -- what portion

2885
02:05:52,679 --> 02:05:53,580
of the 61 million is walled off

2886
02:05:53,580 --> 02:05:54,981
funds that can't be used for any

2887
02:05:54,981 --> 02:05:57,117
other purpose other than that

2888
02:05:57,117 --> 02:05:59,520
type of purpose versus what

2889
02:05:59,520 --> 02:06:02,520
portion of the 61 million is

2890
02:06:02,589 --> 02:06:04,357
what we might call general fund

2891
02:06:04,357 --> 02:06:06,757
discretionary dollars. And so

2892
02:06:08,729 --> 02:06:10,631
I'm just concerned that we have

2893
02:06:10,631 --> 02:06:13,567
this vague position that it's

2894
02:06:13,567 --> 02:06:16,504
not in the budget, but we still

2895
02:06:16,504 --> 02:06:19,700
have $61 million sitting in a

2896
02:06:19,700 --> 02:06:21,142
bank account itemized for this

2897
02:06:21,142 --> 02:06:22,943
particular project. So if that

2898
02:06:22,943 --> 02:06:25,847
project is not moving forward,

2899
02:06:25,847 --> 02:06:27,415
then why are we keeping $61

2900
02:06:27,415 --> 02:06:28,816
million in a bank account for

2901
02:06:28,816 --> 02:06:31,651
this project? When we have so

2902
02:06:31,651 --> 02:06:32,854
many other needs?

2903
02:06:32,854 --> 02:06:34,854
>>michelle aguirre: supervisor,

2904
02:06:38,526 --> 02:06:41,629
I would defer to kim for the

2905
02:06:41,629 --> 02:06:44,629
specifics of the total amount.

2906
02:06:45,833 --> 02:06:47,534
However, for particular/27, the

2907
02:06:47,534 --> 02:06:49,934
monies mentioned previously are

2908
02:06:50,438 --> 02:06:51,638
(Ab) 109-related fundings. That

2909
02:06:51,638 --> 02:06:53,274
money is one-time growth money.

2910
02:06:53,274 --> 02:06:54,342
It's not an ongoing funding

2911
02:06:54,342 --> 02:06:58,110
source, so we would not use that

2912
02:06:58,110 --> 02:07:01,611
for ongoing costs. And it is

2913
02:07:03,483 --> 02:07:05,585
also restricted to -- I guess,

2914
02:07:05,585 --> 02:07:07,585
whatever the community

2915
02:07:07,988 --> 02:07:09,988
corrections partnership

2916
02:07:10,230 --> 02:07:13,230
determines the use should be.

2917
02:07:13,427 --> 02:07:16,497
So the ccp has to approve use of

2918
02:07:16,497 --> 02:07:18,498
those monies, and then that

2919
02:07:18,498 --> 02:07:21,636
comes to the board. But the

2920
02:07:21,636 --> 02:07:23,770
board does not have the

2921
02:07:23,770 --> 02:07:26,170
authority to reallocate those

2922
02:07:26,908 --> 02:07:29,476
monies per statute. And I don't

2923
02:07:29,476 --> 02:07:31,645
know on the remaining portion if

2924
02:07:31,645 --> 02:07:34,450
there's any different funding

2925
02:07:34,681 --> 02:07:36,350
source. Kim oana, I would defer

2926
02:07:36,350 --> 02:07:40,550
to you related to that, or if

2927
02:07:40,721 --> 02:07:41,210
that's not even part of your

2928
02:07:41,210 --> 02:07:41,689
26/27 budget

2929
02:07:41,689 --> 02:07:42,456
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

2930
02:07:42,456 --> 02:07:46,560
because that's why I asked for

2931
02:07:46,394 --> 02:07:48,695
the breakdown, because doing it

2932
02:07:48,695 --> 02:07:50,831
up here on the dais, it does get

2933
02:07:50,831 --> 02:07:52,831
complicated. And (Ab) 109

2934
02:07:52,966 --> 02:07:56,204
funding we use for a variety of

2935
02:07:56,204 --> 02:07:59,804
things. We pay for staff with

2936
02:07:59,908 --> 02:08:02,908
(Ab) 109 funding. We pay for

2937
02:08:03,879 --> 02:08:04,679
the realignment money. We pay

2938
02:08:04,679 --> 02:08:06,810
for things with

2939
02:08:06,810 --> 02:08:07,949
>>michelle aguirre: yeah. With

2940
02:08:07,949 --> 02:08:09,117
the (Ab) 109 monies, there's an

2941
02:08:09,117 --> 02:08:10,952
ongoing funding source but

2942
02:08:10,952 --> 02:08:12,354
there's also a growth component.

2943
02:08:12,354 --> 02:08:14,756
So the growth component is

2944
02:08:14,756 --> 02:08:16,991
one-time moneys that we use for

2945
02:08:16,991 --> 02:08:18,393
one-time costs. So that's the

2946
02:08:18,393 --> 02:08:20,793
difference, supervisor. But you

2947
02:08:21,596 --> 02:08:23,640
are correct, there is an ongoing

2948
02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:25,464
(Ab) 109-related funding source,

2949
02:08:25,967 --> 02:08:27,502
and that allocation of funding

2950
02:08:27,502 --> 02:08:29,337
goes to the departments to cover

2951
02:08:29,337 --> 02:08:31,506
ongoing costs. But not this

2952
02:08:31,506 --> 02:08:32,307
component of (Ab) 109

2953
02:08:32,307 --> 02:08:33,675
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

2954
02:08:33,675 --> 02:08:35,276
understood. But as has been

2955
02:08:35,276 --> 02:08:38,246
explained to us multiple times

2956
02:08:38,246 --> 02:08:40,140
is that we have a bit of a

2957
02:08:40,140 --> 02:08:42,850
budget hit this year and next

2958
02:08:42,850 --> 02:08:43,985
year because of a lot of the

2959
02:08:43,985 --> 02:08:45,620
changes that have been made at

2960
02:08:45,620 --> 02:08:47,540
the federal government cutting

2961
02:08:47,540 --> 02:08:48,924
our funding, that flows to the

2962
02:08:48,924 --> 02:08:51,924
state. The state then cutting

2963
02:08:52,930 --> 02:08:55,693
our funding, and so we're trying

2964
02:08:58,198 --> 02:09:00,434
to correct for those budget

2965
02:09:00,434 --> 02:09:02,938
losses. Then the budget smooths

2966
02:09:02,938 --> 02:09:05,774
out, as we get into the later

2967
02:09:05,774 --> 02:09:08,108
years. And then we have the

2968
02:09:08,108 --> 02:09:09,944
situation as it relates to the

2969
02:09:09,944 --> 02:09:12,344
retirement plan being fully

2970
02:09:14,482 --> 02:09:17,482
funded as we get into 2030, 31,

2971
02:09:18,220 --> 02:09:19,820
32, and that's $229 million

2972
02:09:19,820 --> 02:09:21,356
coming into the county coffers

2973
02:09:21,356 --> 02:09:23,758
that we don't have right now

2974
02:09:23,758 --> 02:09:25,160
because we sent that money over

2975
02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:27,160
to ocers. Annually

2976
02:09:27,295 --> 02:09:28,997
. So I'm just trying to figure

2977
02:09:28,997 --> 02:09:30,732
out, I know you're calling it

2978
02:09:30,732 --> 02:09:32,266
bun-time fund ising so we --

2979
02:09:32,266 --> 02:09:34,369
within-time funding so we can't

2980
02:09:34,369 --> 02:09:36,360
use it for staffing but we have

2981
02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:38,873
a one-time need right now

2982
02:09:38,873 --> 02:09:41,873
because we're in a current

2983
02:09:52,154 --> 02:09:55,154
budget difficulty. So how are

2984
02:09:55,534 --> 02:09:55,991
we allocating the funding that's

2985
02:09:55,991 --> 02:09:56,758
in that line item for that

2986
02:09:56,758 --> 02:10:00,358
project that it appears we are

2987
02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:04,466
not moving forward on? It's $61

2988
02:10:04,466 --> 02:10:06,568
million. I got the number, $61

2989
02:10:06,568 --> 02:10:08,804
million, from the response that

2990
02:10:08,804 --> 02:10:11,804
was written for the board

2991
02:10:11,940 --> 02:10:13,675
related to the harvey roe's memo

2992
02:10:13,675 --> 02:10:16,478
that the labor unions gave to

2993
02:10:16,478 --> 02:10:17,512
us. That's where it says it's

2994
02:10:17,512 --> 02:10:19,512
$61 million. There's a

2995
02:10:21,749 --> 02:10:25,870
sentence -- there's a graph in

2996
02:10:25,870 --> 02:10:26,388
there.

2997
02:10:26,388 --> 02:10:28,123
>>chair, doug chaffee: do we

2998
02:10:28,123 --> 02:10:29,424
have a further response from

2999
02:10:29,424 --> 02:10:32,424
staff that helped put this

3000
02:10:34,620 --> 02:10:36,462
together? Okay. Go ahead.

3001
02:10:37,650 --> 02:10:40,650
>>speaker: yeah, so the crc

3002
02:10:40,267 --> 02:10:43,267
project is $21 million in the

3003
02:10:43,404 --> 02:10:44,773
budget, but also we borrowed $42

3004
02:10:44,773 --> 02:10:47,375
million to fund the airport fire

3005
02:10:47,375 --> 02:10:48,910
that we need to pay back.

3006
02:10:48,910 --> 02:10:50,311
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: hold

3007
02:10:50,311 --> 02:10:53,414
on. I'm going to stop you right

3008
02:10:53,414 --> 02:10:54,949
there. Sorry to interrupt, but

3009
02:10:54,949 --> 02:10:58,549
in the document that was given

3010
02:10:59,620 --> 02:11:02,570
to the board related to

3011
02:11:02,570 --> 02:11:03,726
responding to ocea because they

3012
02:11:03,726 --> 02:11:05,950
were saying, how come all this

3013
02:11:05,950 --> 02:11:07,862
money is in this reserve

3014
02:11:07,862 --> 02:11:10,262
account, right? What was

3015
02:11:10,431 --> 02:11:12,467
provided to us was an analysis

3016
02:11:12,467 --> 02:11:14,303
of how much money is in each of

3017
02:11:14,303 --> 02:11:16,972
the reserve accounts and what

3018
02:11:16,972 --> 02:11:19,607
the projects were that it was

3019
02:11:19,607 --> 02:11:21,743
funding. I understand that only

3020
02:11:21,743 --> 02:11:23,979
$21 million is earmarked for

3021
02:11:23,979 --> 02:11:25,714
this year in the budget. That's

3022
02:11:25,714 --> 02:11:29,314
not what I'm saying. I'm saying

3023
02:11:30,218 --> 02:11:32,555
it's a total of $61 million.

3024
02:11:32,555 --> 02:11:33,489
That is for phase 1 and phase 2,

3025
02:11:33,489 --> 02:11:34,757
that's in a bank account

3026
02:11:34,757 --> 02:11:37,157
somewhere. That's what I'm

3027
02:11:37,794 --> 02:11:40,196
trying to understand, if we have

3028
02:11:40,196 --> 02:11:42,464
$61 million sitting in a bank

3029
02:11:42,464 --> 02:11:44,667
account somewhere for a project

3030
02:11:44,667 --> 02:11:46,902
that we are not moving forward

3031
02:11:46,902 --> 02:11:48,704
on, why are we not reallocating

3032
02:11:48,704 --> 02:11:50,704
those funds?

3033
02:11:50,773 --> 02:11:51,110
>>speaker: we do not have $61

3034
02:11:51,110 --> 02:11:51,741
million

3035
02:11:51,741 --> 02:11:53,242
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: then

3036
02:11:53,242 --> 02:11:53,942
why does it say that in the

3037
02:11:53,942 --> 02:11:54,810
letter?

3038
02:11:54,810 --> 02:11:56,879
>>speaker: it's a timing issue

3039
02:11:56,879 --> 02:11:59,414
with the repayment for the funds

3040
02:11:59,414 --> 02:12:01,817
that were used for the fire

3041
02:12:01,817 --> 02:12:02,551
>>michelle aguirre: so,

3042
02:12:02,551 --> 02:12:04,653
supervisor, if you recall, we

3043
02:12:04,653 --> 02:12:05,554
had to transfer -- we

3044
02:12:05,554 --> 02:12:07,954
transferred $50 million out of

3045
02:12:08,691 --> 02:12:10,792
our capital project fund over to

3046
02:12:10,792 --> 02:12:12,327
our risk management fund to be

3047
02:12:12,327 --> 02:12:13,729
able to begin make the

3048
02:12:13,729 --> 02:12:16,129
settlement payments related to

3049
02:12:18,833 --> 02:12:20,836
the airport fire. So unless

3050
02:12:20,836 --> 02:12:21,704
there's a way that we get

3051
02:12:21,704 --> 02:12:23,905
reimbursed related to the

3052
02:12:23,905 --> 02:12:25,373
airport fire, we don't actually

3053
02:12:25,373 --> 02:12:27,776
have fire in our capital project

3054
02:12:27,776 --> 02:12:29,310
fund for that phase 2.

3055
02:12:29,310 --> 02:12:30,613
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

3056
02:12:30,613 --> 02:12:32,548
So that memo needs to be

3057
02:12:32,548 --> 02:12:34,948
updated to reflect that

3058
02:12:36,284 --> 02:12:37,119
>>speaker: the harvey rose study

3059
02:12:37,119 --> 02:12:38,820
that we're referencing and the

3060
02:12:38,820 --> 02:12:42,420
dollars that were in there were

3061
02:12:47,762 --> 02:12:48,597
based off of the 24/25akfer and

3062
02:12:48,597 --> 02:12:50,597
the borrowing happens

3063
02:12:52,330 --> 02:12:52,701
subsequently after that.

3064
02:12:52,701 --> 02:12:54,300
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: we're

3065
02:12:54,300 --> 02:12:56,105
trying to?Obd a way so that we

3066
02:12:56,105 --> 02:12:56,705
all have the same information.

3067
02:12:56,705 --> 02:12:58,506
We don't have the information

3068
02:12:58,506 --> 02:13:01,309
that you have because we're not

3069
02:13:01,309 --> 02:13:02,745
sitting at your computer digging

3070
02:13:02,745 --> 02:13:04,346
down into all of the different

3071
02:13:04,346 --> 02:13:06,882
accounts, and we rely on you to

3072
02:13:06,882 --> 02:13:08,984
tell us the full picture, and

3073
02:13:08,984 --> 02:13:10,720
then when we get a memo that

3074
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:12,287
only has a piece of the full

3075
02:13:12,287 --> 02:13:14,557
picture because there's another

3076
02:13:14,557 --> 02:13:16,959
piece to it, it gets things to

3077
02:13:16,959 --> 02:13:18,528
be confused. So we need to have

3078
02:13:18,528 --> 02:13:20,830
a full understanding, even if

3079
02:13:20,830 --> 02:13:23,532
the point in time -- and I know

3080
02:13:23,532 --> 02:13:26,135
this is, you know -- this is

3081
02:13:26,135 --> 02:13:27,670
partly a -- an accountant-type

3082
02:13:27,670 --> 02:13:29,238
of way of thinking, right?

3083
02:13:29,238 --> 02:13:32,308
You're looking at it from a

3084
02:13:32,308 --> 02:13:33,142
point in time. So you stop

3085
02:13:33,142 --> 02:13:34,444
looking at the whole picture

3086
02:13:34,444 --> 02:13:35,478
because you're just looking at

3087
02:13:35,478 --> 02:13:36,846
this window of time. But we

3088
02:13:36,846 --> 02:13:38,247
need to see the whole picture

3089
02:13:38,247 --> 02:13:40,150
because we're trying to figure

3090
02:13:40,150 --> 02:13:41,884
out where the money is. Okay.

3091
02:13:41,884 --> 02:13:44,884
So you're saying $21 million is

3092
02:13:45,822 --> 02:13:47,456
what we have. Okay. So my same

3093
02:13:47,456 --> 02:13:50,456
question still applies. Of the

3094
02:13:50,693 --> 02:13:52,228
$21 million, how much of the $21

3095
02:13:52,228 --> 02:13:54,397
million -- it's my word is

3096
02:13:54,397 --> 02:13:56,432
probably the wrong legal term of

3097
02:13:56,432 --> 02:13:56,765
art, but how much of it is

3098
02:13:56,765 --> 02:13:58,765
flexible?

3099
02:13:59,168 --> 02:14:01,168
>>speaker: zero. The $21

3100
02:14:02,904 --> 02:14:05,904
million for the ccp committee

3101
02:14:05,942 --> 02:14:08,760
back in '22 -- approved back in

3102
02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:09,745
'22, so this board can either

3103
02:14:09,745 --> 02:14:11,380
approve or not approve the

3104
02:14:11,380 --> 02:14:13,380
allocation of

3105
02:14:13,550 --> 02:14:15,117
of the (Ab) 109

3106
02:14:15,117 --> 02:14:16,552
funds and in that year that

3107
02:14:16,552 --> 02:14:18,952
allocation was approved. This

3108
02:14:19,655 --> 02:14:21,257
year in the budget we have the

3109
02:14:21,257 --> 02:14:23,625
26/27 allocation, and all of the

3110
02:14:23,625 --> 02:14:24,693
funds anticipated are fully

3111
02:14:24,693 --> 02:14:26,563
allocated after the departments

3112
02:14:26,563 --> 02:14:27,963
by a percentage.

3113
02:14:27,963 --> 02:14:30,265
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

3114
02:14:30,265 --> 02:14:33,403
I'm not sure I understand that

3115
02:14:33,403 --> 02:14:35,803
response. The $21 million, that

3116
02:14:35,838 --> 02:14:38,240
is earmarked in the budget for

3117
02:14:38,240 --> 02:14:40,640
this re-entry project --

3118
02:14:41,677 --> 02:14:44,770
>>speaker: was approved in 2022

3119
02:14:44,379 --> 02:14:46,315
for the 21/22 budget as

3120
02:14:46,315 --> 02:14:48,650
recommended by the ccp

3121
02:14:48,650 --> 02:14:50,286
committee. So the board either

3122
02:14:50,286 --> 02:14:52,888
can -- has the authority to

3123
02:14:52,888 --> 02:14:55,288
either approve the allocation

3124
02:14:55,525 --> 02:14:57,159
that the ccp committee brings

3125
02:14:57,159 --> 02:15:00,363
forth or not approve. So that

3126
02:15:00,363 --> 02:15:03,363
allocation was approved. So to

3127
02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:04,968
go back, we'd have to go back to

3128
02:15:04,968 --> 02:15:07,968
the ccp. They'll have to

3129
02:15:08,871 --> 02:15:10,240
approve or rescind the whole

3130
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:10,874
allocation. They'd have to go

3131
02:15:10,874 --> 02:15:12,750
back to the committee and then

3132
02:15:12,750 --> 02:15:12,709
come back to the board

3133
02:15:12,709 --> 02:15:14,100
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

3134
02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:16,513
I just want to make sure I

3135
02:15:16,513 --> 02:15:17,314
understand if. So the $21

3136
02:15:17,314 --> 02:15:19,549
million that is earmarked for

3137
02:15:19,549 --> 02:15:21,785
this project, that it appears

3138
02:15:21,785 --> 02:15:23,353
that we are not moving forward

3139
02:15:23,353 --> 02:15:24,354
on, cannot be used for anything

3140
02:15:24,354 --> 02:15:27,230
other than the project that we

3141
02:15:27,230 --> 02:15:28,591
appear to not be moving forward

3142
02:15:28,591 --> 02:15:29,559
on; is that right?

3143
02:15:29,559 --> 02:15:30,794
>>speaker: right

3144
02:15:30,794 --> 02:15:31,794
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: so

3145
02:15:31,794 --> 02:15:33,896
what steps need to be taken so

3146
02:15:33,896 --> 02:15:35,598
that that funding can get

3147
02:15:35,598 --> 02:15:37,968
applied to a different project?

3148
02:15:37,968 --> 02:15:39,535
Like we have the tay housing

3149
02:15:39,535 --> 02:15:41,771
project with the workforce

3150
02:15:41,771 --> 02:15:43,506
program over in orange. Is it

3151
02:15:43,506 --> 02:15:45,675
possible to move the funds over

3152
02:15:45,675 --> 02:15:46,543
to there to ask for that to

3153
02:15:46,543 --> 02:15:48,543
happen

3154
02:15:49,346 --> 02:15:50,246
>>speaker: the (Ab) 109 funds

3155
02:15:50,246 --> 02:15:51,481
governed by the community

3156
02:15:51,481 --> 02:15:53,483
correction partnership, so we'd

3157
02:15:53,483 --> 02:15:54,583
have to go back to the community

3158
02:15:54,583 --> 02:15:56,386
correction partnership and they

3159
02:15:56,386 --> 02:15:57,530
cannot be used for juveniles

3160
02:15:57,530 --> 02:15:58,420
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

3161
02:15:58,420 --> 02:16:00,890
Good to know. So that's the

3162
02:16:00,890 --> 02:16:03,293
procedure, though, is to make an

3163
02:16:03,293 --> 02:16:04,728
application to this other

3164
02:16:04,728 --> 02:16:05,295
agency. This is a state

3165
02:16:05,295 --> 02:16:06,529
agency?

3166
02:16:06,529 --> 02:16:08,980
>>speaker: no. This is the

3167
02:16:08,980 --> 02:16:08,364
orange county --

3168
02:16:08,364 --> 02:16:09,465
>>speaker:

3169
02:16:09,465 --> 02:16:10,667
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: oh,

3170
02:16:10,667 --> 02:16:12,667
it's our agency

3171
02:16:13,804 --> 02:16:14,771
>>speaker: it meets before the

3172
02:16:14,771 --> 02:16:14,970
jjcc meetings that you used to

3173
02:16:14,970 --> 02:16:16,806
attend

3174
02:16:16,806 --> 02:16:19,308
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

3175
02:16:19,308 --> 02:16:20,776
So why didn't we just do that?

3176
02:16:20,776 --> 02:16:22,179
I don't understand schaifs

3177
02:16:22,179 --> 02:16:23,179
that's not part of this

3178
02:16:23,179 --> 02:16:24,113
proceeding. This is the budget.

3179
02:16:24,113 --> 02:16:26,215
And if you want to take

3180
02:16:26,215 --> 02:16:26,483
subsequent action, you could ask

3181
02:16:26,483 --> 02:16:27,650
for that.

3182
02:16:27,650 --> 02:16:29,151
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

3183
02:16:29,151 --> 02:16:29,619
that's what I'm asking. What is

3184
02:16:29,619 --> 02:16:30,887
the procedure

3185
02:16:30,887 --> 02:16:33,890
>>michelle aguirre: I think,

3186
02:16:33,890 --> 02:16:33,724
supervisor, what the county and

3187
02:16:33,724 --> 02:16:35,524
staff have committed to, and I

3188
02:16:35,524 --> 02:16:38,524
did send the communication to

3189
02:16:38,561 --> 02:16:42,161
the city of santa ana late

3190
02:16:44,735 --> 02:16:48,335
yesterday, I do admit late. But

3191
02:16:49,339 --> 02:16:51,575
that -- that the project is not

3192
02:16:51,575 --> 02:16:53,110
approved by the board to move

3193
02:16:53,110 --> 02:16:54,578
forward. Today's action, just

3194
02:16:54,578 --> 02:16:58,178
adoption of the budget, does not

3195
02:16:58,448 --> 02:16:59,884
move that project forward. And

3196
02:16:59,884 --> 02:17:03,484
county staff are happy to work

3197
02:17:05,889 --> 02:17:07,724
with the community, the city the

3198
02:17:07,724 --> 02:17:09,920
current site is our youth

3199
02:17:09,920 --> 02:17:11,261
guidance center for at least a

3200
02:17:11,261 --> 02:17:12,262
couple more years. So it's

3201
02:17:12,262 --> 02:17:15,650
not -- this is not something

3202
02:17:15,650 --> 02:17:17,601
that is, I would say, urge

3203
02:17:17,601 --> 02:17:19,203
negligent nature. Just based on

3204
02:17:19,203 --> 02:17:20,637
the budget adoption today. But

3205
02:17:20,637 --> 02:17:23,637
in the communication to the

3206
02:17:23,773 --> 02:17:27,373
city, I did indicate and had

3207
02:17:28,445 --> 02:17:30,546
already reached out to mayor

3208
02:17:30,546 --> 02:17:31,582
masqua a couple of times. Happy

3209
02:17:31,582 --> 02:17:33,684
to schedule that meeting with

3210
02:17:33,684 --> 02:17:35,885
the city and also have that

3211
02:17:35,885 --> 02:17:36,920
community meeting. Based on the

3212
02:17:36,920 --> 02:17:39,920
communications that I have seen

3213
02:17:40,391 --> 02:17:43,193
related to this topic, there's a

3214
02:17:43,193 --> 02:17:44,394
lot of inaccurate information

3215
02:17:44,394 --> 02:17:46,597
out there in the community as it

3216
02:17:46,597 --> 02:17:48,431
relates to what the proposed

3217
02:17:48,431 --> 02:17:50,533
project is. So we would

3218
02:17:50,533 --> 02:17:52,680
actually love to have the

3219
02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:54,171
opportunity to meet with the

3220
02:17:54,171 --> 02:17:55,938
city and the community to

3221
02:17:55,938 --> 02:17:58,308
clarify and provide accurate

3222
02:17:58,308 --> 02:17:59,910
information as to what the

3223
02:17:59,910 --> 02:18:01,979
project would be, if the board

3224
02:18:01,979 --> 02:18:05,181
even approves us to move forward

3225
02:18:05,181 --> 02:18:08,585
with it. And so it is important

3226
02:18:08,585 --> 02:18:10,320
that we have that opportunity to

3227
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:11,854
be over the next, you know, few

3228
02:18:11,854 --> 02:18:14,157
months, six months, whatever.

3229
02:18:14,157 --> 02:18:15,391
Be able to have those meetings

3230
02:18:15,391 --> 02:18:17,528
and to communicate and hear from

3231
02:18:17,528 --> 02:18:20,528
the public. So, but today's

3232
02:18:21,310 --> 02:18:21,831
vote on the budget does not

3233
02:18:21,831 --> 02:18:22,932
approve the project or commit us

3234
02:18:22,932 --> 02:18:24,167
to it.

3235
02:18:24,167 --> 02:18:25,935
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

3236
02:18:25,935 --> 02:18:28,238
you for that clarification. And

3237
02:18:28,238 --> 02:18:29,707
I don't want us to get into like

3238
02:18:29,707 --> 02:18:32,543
the merits of the project

3239
02:18:32,543 --> 02:18:33,744
per se. My comments and

3240
02:18:33,744 --> 02:18:36,113
questions really are more about

3241
02:18:36,113 --> 02:18:38,513
the process of understanding

3242
02:18:39,716 --> 02:18:41,385
where the money is maintained

3243
02:18:41,385 --> 02:18:43,654
and how flexible the accounts

3244
02:18:43,654 --> 02:18:45,156
are and how do we access the

3245
02:18:45,156 --> 02:18:46,724
funds to be able to pay for

3246
02:18:46,724 --> 02:18:49,724
operational needs? And so that

3247
02:18:50,427 --> 02:18:54,627
is where I'm still -- I feet

3248
02:18:55,498 --> 02:18:57,335
like we -- it just trickles in,

3249
02:18:57,335 --> 02:18:59,300
the information. It's a

3250
02:18:59,300 --> 02:19:01,403
complicated county system in

3251
02:19:02,940 --> 02:19:04,141
terms of the budget and all of

3252
02:19:04,141 --> 02:19:05,843
the different accounts and

3253
02:19:05,843 --> 02:19:07,345
reserves and mandates. And so

3254
02:19:07,345 --> 02:19:10,281
it's really important that we

3255
02:19:10,281 --> 02:19:12,150
have full transparency on where

3256
02:19:12,150 --> 02:19:13,517
the money is. How much money is

3257
02:19:13,517 --> 02:19:15,486
in each of the accounts? You

3258
02:19:15,486 --> 02:19:18,121
and I talked about this before.

3259
02:19:18,121 --> 02:19:18,955
We talked about like the

3260
02:19:18,955 --> 02:19:20,323
tidelands accounts as an

3261
02:19:20,323 --> 02:19:22,325
example. You can't see it in

3262
02:19:22,325 --> 02:19:22,828
this year's budget, how much

3263
02:19:22,828 --> 02:19:25,950
money is in each of the

3264
02:19:25,950 --> 02:19:26,464
accounts. And so I'd like us --

3265
02:19:26,464 --> 02:19:29,499
when we move forward with next

3266
02:19:29,499 --> 02:19:31,670
year's budget, we need to figure

3267
02:19:31,670 --> 02:19:33,371
out how to advance a budget

3268
02:19:33,371 --> 02:19:34,838
where we can actually see what

3269
02:19:34,838 --> 02:19:37,807
is in the bank account. Not

3270
02:19:37,807 --> 02:19:39,310
just see what is budgeted for

3271
02:19:39,310 --> 02:19:41,178
the operational year for the

3272
02:19:41,178 --> 02:19:42,513
year. So those are my comments.

3273
02:19:42,513 --> 02:19:44,848
Thank you for all of the hard

3274
02:19:44,848 --> 02:19:45,815
work. It's a challenging time,

3275
02:19:45,815 --> 02:19:48,586
and we appreciate all the hard

3276
02:19:48,586 --> 02:19:50,220
work. My priority with this

3277
02:19:50,220 --> 02:19:52,356
budget and as we continue with

3278
02:19:52,356 --> 02:19:54,758
our bargaining is that we not

3279
02:19:54,758 --> 02:19:57,694
have any layoffs, that we

3280
02:19:57,694 --> 02:19:59,429
maintain our workforce so we can

3281
02:19:59,429 --> 02:20:00,830
continue to provide excellent

3282
02:20:00,830 --> 02:20:03,830
services to the community and

3283
02:20:03,867 --> 02:20:06,236
that we figure out how to get

3284
02:20:06,236 --> 02:20:07,772
through what I see as a bridge

3285
02:20:07,772 --> 02:20:08,271
time period. Thank you

3286
02:20:08,271 --> 02:20:08,939
>>chair, doug chaffee:

3287
02:20:08,939 --> 02:20:10,939
supervisor nguyen

3288
02:20:11,542 --> 02:20:13,942
>>janet nguyen: thank you,

3289
02:20:14,111 --> 02:20:17,711
MR. CHAIRMAN. I wanted to ask

3290
02:20:20,118 --> 02:20:21,753
the ceo a question. Sorry. I

3291
02:20:21,753 --> 02:20:23,255
wanted to ask the ceo the

3292
02:20:23,255 --> 02:20:25,255
question, but she's

3293
02:20:25,289 --> 02:20:27,289
communicating with county

3294
02:20:28,826 --> 02:20:32,864
counsel. I just -- okay. So I

3295
02:20:32,864 --> 02:20:35,298
know there's folks who are here,

3296
02:20:35,298 --> 02:20:37,698
including mayor amess came,

3297
02:20:38,503 --> 02:20:41,503
who's here to speak, regarding

3298
02:20:41,873 --> 02:20:45,473
item 64, I know it's a little

3299
02:20:46,511 --> 02:20:48,911
confusion because there's too

3300
02:21:01,426 --> 02:21:02,527
items we're currently looking at

3301
02:21:02,527 --> 02:21:04,629
allocating the money to move

3302
02:21:04,629 --> 02:21:06,463
forward with a plan. If we

3303
02:21:06,463 --> 02:21:08,198
don't support that today, when

3304
02:21:08,198 --> 02:21:10,100
with comes back to the board for

3305
02:21:10,100 --> 02:21:13,601
a program in the future, it

3306
02:21:16,740 --> 02:21:19,740
would require 4/5th votes for

3307
02:21:22,247 --> 02:21:25,847
that to pass. I know, MADAM

3308
02:21:40,631 --> 02:21:42,734
Ceo. You mentioned it -- is the

3309
02:21:42,734 --> 02:21:45,102
allocation made to this specific

3310
02:21:45,102 --> 02:21:45,335
project at this address in the

3311
02:21:45,335 --> 02:21:47,271
funding?

3312
02:21:47,271 --> 02:21:49,671
>>michelle aguirre: no, the

3313
02:21:49,707 --> 02:21:52,143
moneys are bugged in our capital

3314
02:21:52,143 --> 02:21:54,445
project budget. But there's no

3315
02:21:54,445 --> 02:21:55,980
authority for us to spend the

3316
02:21:55,980 --> 02:21:58,380
money, right. That would

3317
02:21:58,450 --> 02:21:59,117
require a completely separate

3318
02:21:59,117 --> 02:21:59,784
agenda item in the future for

3319
02:21:59,784 --> 02:22:00,785
the forward about consider.

3320
02:22:00,785 --> 02:22:04,385
Separate, not just as part of

3321
02:22:07,292 --> 02:22:08,926
this budget.

3322
02:22:08,926 --> 02:22:10,729
>>janet nguyen: what if an

3323
02:22:10,729 --> 02:22:12,300
allocation is made but then a

3324
02:22:12,300 --> 02:22:12,231
different location is identified

3325
02:22:12,231 --> 02:22:13,431
later

3326
02:22:13,431 --> 02:22:14,566
>>michelle aguirre: it still

3327
02:22:14,566 --> 02:22:14,799
requires separate board

3328
02:22:14,799 --> 02:22:15,867
approval

3329
02:22:15,867 --> 02:22:18,700
>>janet nguyen: and I agree, and

3330
02:22:18,700 --> 02:22:18,769
I appreciate your comments and

3331
02:22:18,769 --> 02:22:22,174
the letter you sent to the city

3332
02:22:22,174 --> 02:22:25,410
and to the mayor, I want to make

3333
02:22:25,410 --> 02:22:27,978
sure from my side that please do

3334
02:22:27,978 --> 02:22:32,170
work with the city of santa ana

3335
02:22:32,170 --> 02:22:33,452
and the mayor to -- if we are

3336
02:22:33,452 --> 02:22:34,418
going to move forward about

3337
02:22:34,418 --> 02:22:36,488
anywhere, whether it's santa ana

3338
02:22:36,488 --> 02:22:37,488
or we're going to go to another

3339
02:22:37,488 --> 02:22:39,725
city, we need work with the

3340
02:22:39,725 --> 02:22:41,826
communities to making sure they

3341
02:22:41,826 --> 02:22:43,161
understand that if there is a

3342
02:22:43,161 --> 02:22:44,863
potential identification of a

3343
02:22:44,863 --> 02:22:47,863
location for this program, we

3344
02:22:48,299 --> 02:22:51,899
need to work with them, moving

3345
02:22:53,437 --> 02:22:55,837
forward after 2028. Because the

3346
02:22:58,900 --> 02:22:58,209
current program is still there.

3347
02:22:58,209 --> 02:22:59,760
2027?

3348
02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:01,312
>>michelle aguirre: well, my

3349
02:23:01,312 --> 02:23:03,547
understanding is it's like the

3350
02:23:03,547 --> 02:23:05,216
middle of 2028. This is not

3351
02:23:05,216 --> 02:23:07,985
anything that, like I said, is

3352
02:23:07,985 --> 02:23:08,185
urgent or in the very near

3353
02:23:08,185 --> 02:23:08,820
future

3354
02:23:08,820 --> 02:23:10,388
>>janet nguyen: perfect. Thank

3355
02:23:10,388 --> 02:23:12,124
you. So I want folks who are

3356
02:23:12,124 --> 02:23:14,920
here, who are going to speak on

3357
02:23:14,920 --> 02:23:16,492
item 64, to understand why

3358
02:23:17,940 --> 02:23:19,397
you're hearing the conversation

3359
02:23:19,397 --> 02:23:19,965
of the re-entry program and the

3360
02:23:19,965 --> 02:23:21,699
budgeting and et cetera, and

3361
02:23:21,699 --> 02:23:24,350
that's why you're hearing that.

3362
02:23:24,350 --> 02:23:26,270
But when you get to 64, you

3363
02:23:26,270 --> 02:23:26,804
know, which is an item just to

3364
02:23:26,804 --> 02:23:28,706
approve the contract, the

3365
02:23:28,706 --> 02:23:31,106
current contract, the funding

3366
02:23:32,643 --> 02:23:34,846
for it, to continue into 2027,

3367
02:23:34,846 --> 02:23:35,814
an allocation for their

3368
02:23:35,814 --> 02:23:38,214
workforce re-entry service that

3369
02:23:40,284 --> 02:23:41,987
is currently ongoing, that is at

3370
02:23:41,987 --> 02:23:43,455
that location, but this does not

3371
02:23:43,455 --> 02:23:43,755
commit us to the capital

3372
02:23:43,755 --> 02:23:44,756
improvement

3373
02:23:44,756 --> 02:23:46,756
>>michelle aguirre: different

3374
02:23:49,995 --> 02:23:51,797
location. So 64 -- it's for

3375
02:23:51,797 --> 02:23:53,498
orange, and it's a completely

3376
02:23:53,498 --> 02:23:54,834
different project.

3377
02:23:54,834 --> 02:23:57,769
>>janet nguyen: so if that's the

3378
02:23:57,769 --> 02:24:00,305
case, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ask us

3379
02:24:00,305 --> 02:24:02,407
to -- I know that the folks here

3380
02:24:02,407 --> 02:24:03,442
from santa ana did not know that

3381
02:24:03,442 --> 02:24:06,442
that's a different item. I

3382
02:24:06,445 --> 02:24:09,380
didn't either until now. Would

3383
02:24:09,380 --> 02:24:10,181
you allow them to go ahead and

3384
02:24:10,181 --> 02:24:12,840
speak? Because it is part of

3385
02:24:12,840 --> 02:24:13,218
the budget that they're really

3386
02:24:13,218 --> 02:24:14,819
here for

3387
02:24:14,819 --> 02:24:16,322
>>speaker: they MAY come back at

3388
02:24:16,322 --> 02:24:18,724
public comments. The rules we

3389
02:24:18,724 --> 02:24:20,993
have, you must ask in advance

3390
02:24:20,993 --> 02:24:22,394
>>janet nguyen: but I think,

3391
02:24:22,394 --> 02:24:23,829
MR. CHAIRMAN, if possible, I

3392
02:24:23,829 --> 02:24:26,332
think they've been here since

3393
02:24:26,332 --> 02:24:27,967
this morning, and I think maybe

3394
02:24:27,967 --> 02:24:29,435
if we can waive that rule

3395
02:24:29,435 --> 02:24:31,670
because I think it's -- it was

3396
02:24:31,670 --> 02:24:33,205
very confusing. I think it

3397
02:24:33,205 --> 02:24:34,305
would be much appreciated just

3398
02:24:34,305 --> 02:24:36,842
to allow each of them the 1

3399
02:24:36,842 --> 02:24:37,875
minute that we allow all the

3400
02:24:37,875 --> 02:24:39,978
others who spoke on the budget

3401
02:24:39,978 --> 02:24:40,445
item because there's a confusion

3402
02:24:40,445 --> 02:24:41,379
between the two items

3403
02:24:41,379 --> 02:24:42,513
>>chair, doug chaffee: my answer

3404
02:24:42,513 --> 02:24:44,816
is no. That is the order of the

3405
02:24:44,816 --> 02:24:47,520
day. If you wish to have board

3406
02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:50,688
members vote on, that we can do

3407
02:24:50,688 --> 02:24:50,923
that. You want to make a

3408
02:24:50,923 --> 02:24:51,890
motion?

3409
02:24:51,890 --> 02:24:54,250
>>janet nguyen: if possible, I

3410
02:24:54,250 --> 02:24:56,327
would make the motion to waive

3411
02:24:56,327 --> 02:24:57,729
and allow folks who are here to

3412
02:24:57,729 --> 02:25:00,799
speak on the budget of the

3413
02:25:00,799 --> 02:25:04,399
re-entry program to be able to

3414
02:25:06,839 --> 02:25:07,102
speak at this time, 1 minute

3415
02:25:07,102 --> 02:25:08,440
each.

3416
02:25:08,440 --> 02:25:10,708
>>chair, doug chaffee: is there

3417
02:25:10,708 --> 02:25:11,577
a second to that motion

3418
02:25:11,577 --> 02:25:12,577
>>vincente sarmiento: I'll

3419
02:25:12,577 --> 02:25:14,577
second the motion

3420
02:25:14,713 --> 02:25:17,113
>>chair, doug chaffee: MADAM

3421
02:25:19,350 --> 02:25:22,950
Clerk, would you call the roll

3422
02:25:22,988 --> 02:25:24,890
[Calling roll]

3423
02:25:24,890 --> 02:25:26,291
>>chair, doug chaffee: the

3424
02:25:26,291 --> 02:25:28,259
motion carries. All right. And

3425
02:25:28,259 --> 02:25:30,629
so you need to first fill out

3426
02:25:30,629 --> 02:25:33,629
speaker form, whoever wants to

3427
02:25:36,935 --> 02:25:37,637
speak, and how many do we have?

3428
02:25:37,637 --> 02:25:39,272
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: they

3429
02:25:39,272 --> 02:25:41,607
don't have that many speakers.

3430
02:25:41,607 --> 02:25:42,375
Maybe people can consolidate for

3431
02:25:42,375 --> 02:25:44,376
the interest of time. I think

3432
02:25:44,376 --> 02:25:46,645
we got the message, but we want

3433
02:25:46,645 --> 02:25:47,280
to hear from you.

3434
02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:50,280
>>clerk, robin stieler: we have

3435
02:25:52,985 --> 02:25:54,687
a total of 11 speakers.

3436
02:25:54,687 --> 02:25:55,521
>>janet nguyen: since we're kind

3437
02:25:55,521 --> 02:25:57,560
of trying to find out who the

3438
02:25:57,560 --> 02:25:59,658
folks are because of the mix-up

3439
02:25:59,658 --> 02:26:00,927
of the items, you can maybe just

3440
02:26:00,927 --> 02:26:03,496
stand and get in line and just

3441
02:26:03,496 --> 02:26:04,629
read your name, because if

3442
02:26:04,629 --> 02:26:06,165
you've already had a speaker

3443
02:26:06,165 --> 02:26:09,765
form, I think, we would have

3444
02:26:17,409 --> 02:26:17,809
your information already. So --

3445
02:26:17,809 --> 02:26:19,809
so ----

3446
02:26:20,345 --> 02:26:22,810
>>leon page: MR. Chair, are the

3447
02:26:22,810 --> 02:26:23,483
speakers from the city, are they

3448
02:26:23,483 --> 02:26:23,816
speaking on the budget item or

3449
02:26:23,816 --> 02:26:25,384
on item 64

3450
02:26:25,384 --> 02:26:26,819
>>janet nguyen: it would be on

3451
02:26:26,819 --> 02:26:27,486
the budget item

3452
02:26:27,486 --> 02:26:28,321
>>chair, doug chaffee: speaking

3453
02:26:28,321 --> 02:26:28,553
of the budget, it's part of

3454
02:26:28,553 --> 02:26:29,155
that --

3455
02:26:29,155 --> 02:26:30,923
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

3456
02:26:30,923 --> 02:26:32,158
because 64 is a different topic

3457
02:26:32,158 --> 02:26:34,558
>>chair, doug chaffee: funding

3458
02:26:35,260 --> 02:26:35,460
for future use of the re-entry

3459
02:26:35,460 --> 02:26:36,863
center

3460
02:26:36,863 --> 02:26:38,597
>>speaker: first of all, I want

3461
02:26:38,597 --> 02:26:41,366
to thank the board for allowing

3462
02:26:41,366 --> 02:26:42,367
us to speak. I'm valerie mess

3463
02:26:42,367 --> 02:26:44,336
came, the mayor the city of

3464
02:26:44,336 --> 02:26:46,138
santa ana. I would like to ask

3465
02:26:46,138 --> 02:26:47,973
is that in the future, thank

3466
02:26:47,973 --> 02:26:49,107
you, michelle aguirre for

3467
02:26:49,107 --> 02:26:50,675
sending the letter yesterday. I

3468
02:26:50,675 --> 02:26:53,979
would like to ask that you allow

3469
02:26:53,979 --> 02:26:58,779
the city of santa ana to be at

3470
02:26:59,518 --> 02:27:01,540
the table when this discussion

3471
02:27:01,540 --> 02:27:02,554
occurs, have a community forum

3472
02:27:02,554 --> 02:27:05,554
because it is very important.

3473
02:27:05,791 --> 02:27:06,758
The location of 3030 hesperian

3474
02:27:06,758 --> 02:27:08,226
way has been cleaned up by the

3475
02:27:08,226 --> 02:27:09,940
city of santa ana, addressing

3476
02:27:09,940 --> 02:27:12,940
the homeless issue. Our santa

3477
02:27:13,266 --> 02:27:15,133
ana police department has done a

3478
02:27:15,133 --> 02:27:16,402
phenomenal job and so we deserve

3479
02:27:16,402 --> 02:27:17,703
the stiff santa ana a great

3480
02:27:17,703 --> 02:27:20,339
quality of life just like the 34

3481
02:27:20,339 --> 02:27:21,307
other cities in orange county.

3482
02:27:21,307 --> 02:27:22,676
And so thank you very much for

3483
02:27:22,676 --> 02:27:26,876
all of the support that you all

3484
02:27:36,689 --> 02:27:38,124
have provided. And I would just

3485
02:27:38,124 --> 02:27:40,326
ask that you invite us to the

3486
02:27:40,326 --> 02:27:41,940
table. We are the bearers of

3487
02:27:41,940 --> 02:27:43,463
everything. Thank you for

3488
02:27:43,463 --> 02:27:44,297
allowing us to speak today, but

3489
02:27:44,297 --> 02:27:45,597
please understand that we want

3490
02:27:45,597 --> 02:27:46,566
to be at table and have this

3491
02:27:46,566 --> 02:27:49,402
discussion with you. I do as

3492
02:27:49,402 --> 02:27:51,370
the mayor because I represent my

3493
02:27:51,370 --> 02:27:52,380
entire city, and it's what's

3494
02:27:52,380 --> 02:27:53,973
best for all of us. We want the

3495
02:27:53,973 --> 02:27:55,475
same quality of life for our

3496
02:27:55,475 --> 02:27:55,908
families, our children. Thank

3497
02:27:55,908 --> 02:27:56,509
you so very much

3498
02:27:56,509 --> 02:27:58,844
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

3499
02:27:58,844 --> 02:28:01,470
you. How many more speakers do

3500
02:28:01,470 --> 02:28:02,800
we have on this?

3501
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:03,348
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: and

3502
02:28:03,348 --> 02:28:07,520
if the speakers want to say a

3503
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:08,520
"me too," that would be really

3504
02:28:08,520 --> 02:28:09,655
welcome.

3505
02:28:09,655 --> 02:28:11,757
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay

3506
02:28:11,757 --> 02:28:13,358
>>speaker: good morning.

3507
02:28:13,358 --> 02:28:15,394
>>chair, doug chaffee: did you

3508
02:28:15,394 --> 02:28:15,594
fill out the speaker forms,

3509
02:28:15,594 --> 02:28:17,594
please

3510
02:28:17,930 --> 02:28:18,101
>>clerk, robin stieler: yes, she

3511
02:28:18,101 --> 02:28:19,531
did

3512
02:28:19,531 --> 02:28:20,233
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay. Go

3513
02:28:20,233 --> 02:28:22,233
ahead

3514
02:28:22,468 --> 02:28:23,469
>>speaker: martha molina, with

3515
02:28:23,469 --> 02:28:24,236
the riverview neighborhood

3516
02:28:24,236 --> 02:28:27,236
association. I placed this list

3517
02:28:28,607 --> 02:28:30,477
on your -- I don't know if I can

3518
02:28:30,477 --> 02:28:32,445
do this. Okay. Great. So two

3519
02:28:32,445 --> 02:28:33,879
weeks ago I came and we will a

3520
02:28:33,879 --> 02:28:35,481
letter signed by eight

3521
02:28:35,481 --> 02:28:36,182
neighborhoods. Today we have a

3522
02:28:36,182 --> 02:28:37,884
letter signed by 23

3523
02:28:37,884 --> 02:28:39,884
neighborhoods. They're listed

3524
02:28:41,530 --> 02:28:42,555
there, we work very hard, as

3525
02:28:42,555 --> 02:28:46,155
we've let you know, since the

3526
02:28:48,728 --> 02:28:49,628
mayor valerie mezcal goss --

3527
02:28:49,628 --> 02:28:50,930
amezcua meets with us every

3528
02:28:50,930 --> 02:28:52,565
month for the last four years.

3529
02:28:52,565 --> 02:28:54,700
We still have issues. This is

3530
02:28:54,700 --> 02:28:56,303
the graffiti in my neighborhood.

3531
02:28:56,303 --> 02:28:57,904
Three walls were hit this

3532
02:28:57,904 --> 02:29:00,273
weekend. We couldn't get them

3533
02:29:00,273 --> 02:29:01,541
cleaned until monday. We have

3534
02:29:01,541 --> 02:29:02,441
million-dollar homes there.

3535
02:29:02,441 --> 02:29:04,143
We're very proud of it. We work

3536
02:29:04,143 --> 02:29:06,980
very hard. And as we celebrate

3537
02:29:06,980 --> 02:29:09,980
the freedom of america, you

3538
02:29:10,717 --> 02:29:12,486
know, we need occlusion, we

3539
02:29:12,486 --> 02:29:13,320
need -- we need inclusion, we

3540
02:29:13,320 --> 02:29:15,255
need participation, and I read

3541
02:29:15,255 --> 02:29:16,289
that the state funds require

3542
02:29:16,289 --> 02:29:17,925
community outreach. We

3543
02:29:17,925 --> 02:29:19,426
appreciate your attention.

3544
02:29:19,426 --> 02:29:20,260
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

3545
02:29:20,260 --> 02:29:20,927
you.

3546
02:29:20,927 --> 02:29:22,562
>>speaker: good morning. My

3547
02:29:22,562 --> 02:29:24,131
name is danny vega. I don't

3548
02:29:24,131 --> 02:29:25,599
even know what to say with all

3549
02:29:25,599 --> 02:29:28,402
of this confusion. I'm just a

3550
02:29:28,402 --> 02:29:29,936
father with four daughters and I

3551
02:29:29,936 --> 02:29:32,239
was going to come here to speak

3552
02:29:32,239 --> 02:29:33,173
against the center because, you

3553
02:29:33,173 --> 02:29:35,509
know, santa ana, it seems like

3554
02:29:35,509 --> 02:29:37,144
the county is always putting

3555
02:29:37,144 --> 02:29:40,744
these programs in our city, and

3556
02:29:42,316 --> 02:29:44,550
I think it's really unfair. And

3557
02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:45,551
it's really disheartening. It

3558
02:29:45,551 --> 02:29:48,454
feels like there's this aura in

3559
02:29:48,454 --> 02:29:50,824
the room that nobody wants to

3560
02:29:50,824 --> 02:29:51,824
hear senior residents out.

3561
02:29:51,824 --> 02:29:55,395
I went back to listen to the

3562
02:29:55,395 --> 02:29:57,795
MARCH 27th, 2018 meeting when

3563
02:29:59,999 --> 02:30:01,134
there was a plan to put homeless

3564
02:30:01,134 --> 02:30:03,534
tents around certain cities.

3565
02:30:03,536 --> 02:30:05,338
And the residents that went out

3566
02:30:05,338 --> 02:30:06,973
there to speak out against it,

3567
02:30:06,973 --> 02:30:09,800
to say the exact sale thing that

3568
02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:10,143
I was going to say, we're

3569
02:30:10,143 --> 02:30:11,577
treated much, much better. They

3570
02:30:11,577 --> 02:30:12,345
even had apologies from the

3571
02:30:12,345 --> 02:30:15,810
board. But when it comes to

3572
02:30:15,810 --> 02:30:16,783
santa ana, it almost seems like

3573
02:30:16,783 --> 02:30:17,450
our kids don't matter. And it's

3574
02:30:17,450 --> 02:30:18,170
really sad

3575
02:30:18,170 --> 02:30:20,417
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

3576
02:30:24,257 --> 02:30:26,257
you, sir.

3577
02:30:28,295 --> 02:30:30,295
>>speaker: chair, council,

3578
02:30:30,430 --> 02:30:31,398
supervisors, dale, 36-year

3579
02:30:31,398 --> 02:30:33,330
resident of santa ana. I was

3580
02:30:33,330 --> 02:30:34,967
here again to speak on the

3581
02:30:34,967 --> 02:30:36,335
issue, the re-entry program.

3582
02:30:36,335 --> 02:30:38,404
There is a lot of confusion

3583
02:30:38,404 --> 02:30:39,873
between 64 and 94. So I'm glad

3584
02:30:39,873 --> 02:30:41,141
you guys cleared that up, that

3585
02:30:41,141 --> 02:30:42,475
the project is not approved.

3586
02:30:42,475 --> 02:30:45,678
And I implore you to make sure

3587
02:30:45,678 --> 02:30:47,180
that you have community outreach

3588
02:30:47,180 --> 02:30:49,115
to whoever is going to be

3589
02:30:49,115 --> 02:30:51,515
impacted by this re-entry

3590
02:30:51,986 --> 02:30:53,687
project. It's very important

3591
02:30:53,687 --> 02:30:55,422
that the transparency is there,

3592
02:30:55,422 --> 02:30:57,558
and it's also important that

3593
02:30:57,558 --> 02:30:58,993
other cities are included in the

3594
02:30:58,993 --> 02:31:01,228
discussion instead of just

3595
02:31:01,228 --> 02:31:03,330
always including santa ana

3596
02:31:03,330 --> 02:31:05,732
because it's a county seat. So

3597
02:31:05,732 --> 02:31:07,968
i hope that you keep that in

3598
02:31:07,968 --> 02:31:08,568
mind when it comes to -- in

3599
02:31:08,568 --> 02:31:10,504
front of you later on, whether

3600
02:31:10,504 --> 02:31:11,905
it's this year or next year or

3601
02:31:11,905 --> 02:31:12,473
whenever. Thank you

3602
02:31:12,473 --> 02:31:14,873
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

3603
02:31:18,145 --> 02:31:20,145
you, sir.

3604
02:31:20,648 --> 02:31:21,916
>>speaker: carl bener, also a

3605
02:31:21,916 --> 02:31:23,651
resident of santa ana. I wore

3606
02:31:23,651 --> 02:31:26,720
my red wing jersey so that

3607
02:31:26,720 --> 02:31:28,689
vincent could recognize me. But

3608
02:31:28,689 --> 02:31:30,890
just support also. I see a need

3609
02:31:30,890 --> 02:31:33,326
for the re-entry program, but we

3610
02:31:33,326 --> 02:31:33,827
need to talk to the communities.

3611
02:31:33,827 --> 02:31:34,861
You need to involve the

3612
02:31:34,861 --> 02:31:38,461
communities and talk to where it

3613
02:31:39,366 --> 02:31:41,201
is and really keep it out of the

3614
02:31:41,201 --> 02:31:42,603
highly residential-built cities.

3615
02:31:42,603 --> 02:31:43,738
Because, though it will help

3616
02:31:43,738 --> 02:31:46,373
many people get back to a normal

3617
02:31:46,373 --> 02:31:49,710
life, there are some that will

3618
02:31:49,710 --> 02:31:50,210
just use the steppingstone. I'm

3619
02:31:50,210 --> 02:31:51,911
glad we are hearing this

3620
02:31:51,911 --> 02:31:53,246
conversation today. Please

3621
02:31:53,246 --> 02:31:54,147
include the local cities in the

3622
02:31:54,147 --> 02:31:56,550
discussions where you are going

3623
02:31:56,550 --> 02:31:58,252
to locate it. And supervisor

3624
02:31:58,252 --> 02:31:59,153
nguyen, welcome back to the

3625
02:31:59,153 --> 02:32:02,153
board. I appreciate you being

3626
02:32:03,424 --> 02:32:04,858
here. Thank you.

3627
02:32:04,858 --> 02:32:05,726
>>speaker: good afternoon. My

3628
02:32:05,726 --> 02:32:09,326
name is melissa and I'm a

3629
02:32:11,297 --> 02:32:12,800
resident of santa ana. I'm here

3630
02:32:12,800 --> 02:32:16,236
to support -- the re-entry in

3631
02:32:16,236 --> 02:32:17,404
the city of santa ana because we

3632
02:32:17,404 --> 02:32:19,339
and the mayor has been working

3633
02:32:19,339 --> 02:32:21,700
very hard on cleaning up our

3634
02:32:21,700 --> 02:32:22,509
city and making it a better

3635
02:32:22,509 --> 02:32:24,144
place. We have government

3636
02:32:24,144 --> 02:32:27,144
buildings here that we have

3637
02:32:28,515 --> 02:32:29,283
people in all types of -- all

3638
02:32:29,283 --> 02:32:31,683
types of representatives coming

3639
02:32:31,819 --> 02:32:34,721
to our city. Our goal is to not

3640
02:32:34,721 --> 02:32:37,158
have our city look worse or have

3641
02:32:37,158 --> 02:32:39,193
any more homeless or anything

3642
02:32:39,193 --> 02:32:40,194
like that. It does not make us

3643
02:32:40,194 --> 02:32:42,596
look better or represent our

3644
02:32:42,596 --> 02:32:46,196
city. For the last couple of

3645
02:32:47,340 --> 02:32:48,803
years, it's been a misfire. But

3646
02:32:48,803 --> 02:32:51,505
there's been a great job on

3647
02:32:51,505 --> 02:32:52,673
removing presentable first

3648
02:32:52,673 --> 02:32:54,141
street by the 5 freeway,

3649
02:32:54,141 --> 02:32:57,141
cleaning up that whole area.

3650
02:32:57,145 --> 02:32:58,578
And in regards to our children,

3651
02:32:58,578 --> 02:33:00,981
I'm sure none of you would want

3652
02:33:00,981 --> 02:33:04,618
to have a problem like that in

3653
02:33:04,618 --> 02:33:07,855
your city. So if you could

3654
02:33:07,855 --> 02:33:09,589
please consider that when you

3655
02:33:09,589 --> 02:33:12,589
have your meeting for that.

3656
02:33:17,665 --> 02:33:18,665
Thank you.

3657
02:33:18,665 --> 02:33:21,650
>>speaker: good morning. Victor

3658
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:21,536
mendez, PRESIDENT Of the zoo

3659
02:33:21,536 --> 02:33:23,204
district neighborhood

3660
02:33:23,204 --> 02:33:24,971
association. I wanted to

3661
02:33:24,971 --> 02:33:26,339
reiterate what mayor amezcua

3662
02:33:26,339 --> 02:33:28,475
said about we're a welcoming

3663
02:33:28,475 --> 02:33:29,343
community. My own neighborhood

3664
02:33:29,343 --> 02:33:32,113
on east first street up to four

3665
02:33:32,113 --> 02:33:35,113
years ago was horrendous. We

3666
02:33:35,416 --> 02:33:36,216
were infested with homelessness,

3667
02:33:36,216 --> 02:33:37,217
transient, prostitutes, drug

3668
02:33:37,217 --> 02:33:38,619
addicts. The city invested

3669
02:33:38,619 --> 02:33:41,190
millions of dollars, the

3670
02:33:41,388 --> 02:33:43,691
community invested a lot of time

3671
02:33:43,691 --> 02:33:46,126
and the place is now civil. And

3672
02:33:46,126 --> 02:33:47,962
home to many people including

3673
02:33:47,962 --> 02:33:50,597
afghan refugees. We are very

3674
02:33:50,597 --> 02:33:52,199
happy to have them and we've

3675
02:33:52,199 --> 02:33:53,801
done a lot of work to keep

3676
02:33:53,801 --> 02:33:55,937
things safe and secure in these

3677
02:33:55,937 --> 02:33:58,238
times. So as far as I'm

3678
02:33:58,238 --> 02:34:01,542
concerned, I'm just too old to

3679
02:34:01,542 --> 02:34:03,111
pay for the same real estate.

3680
02:34:03,111 --> 02:34:05,413
I don't want to see it happen

3681
02:34:05,413 --> 02:34:07,114
again. I don't want to go out

3682
02:34:07,114 --> 02:34:08,349
there at night patrolling, so

3683
02:34:08,349 --> 02:34:09,484
please do what you can to make

3684
02:34:09,484 --> 02:34:12,484
the situation safe and secure

3685
02:34:16,624 --> 02:34:19,240
for everybody. Thank you.

3686
02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:21,396
>>clerk, robin stieler: the

3687
02:34:21,396 --> 02:34:22,397
remaining four speakers are

3688
02:34:22,397 --> 02:34:23,832
still scheduled to speak on 64

3689
02:34:23,832 --> 02:34:25,499
>>chair, doug chaffee: are there

3690
02:34:25,499 --> 02:34:27,499
any more speakers?

3691
02:34:29,170 --> 02:34:30,572
>>clerk, robin stieler: no.

3692
02:34:30,572 --> 02:34:32,207
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

3693
02:34:32,207 --> 02:34:33,375
right. We're back here, and I

3694
02:34:33,375 --> 02:34:35,177
see supervisor sarmiento. Do

3695
02:34:35,177 --> 02:34:36,144
you have any further comments

3696
02:34:36,144 --> 02:34:38,144
>>vincente sarmiento: yeah.

3697
02:34:38,446 --> 02:34:40,480
Just a final comment on the

3698
02:34:40,480 --> 02:34:43,618
breast-feeding L.A. To say that

3699
02:34:43,618 --> 02:34:45,419
we have a meeting with their

3700
02:34:45,419 --> 02:34:47,722
team and we'll continue to work

3701
02:34:47,722 --> 02:34:49,157
with first five. I'm the

3702
02:34:49,157 --> 02:34:50,926
vice-chair on that board. We

3703
02:34:50,926 --> 02:34:53,395
know how important this program

3704
02:34:53,395 --> 02:34:55,297
is. We'll find a way to work

3705
02:34:55,297 --> 02:34:57,365
with hca and make sure that we

3706
02:34:57,365 --> 02:34:58,433
come to some conclusion on that.

3707
02:34:58,433 --> 02:35:00,568
To the city, and thank you for

3708
02:35:00,568 --> 02:35:02,300
those of you who spoke on this

3709
02:35:02,300 --> 02:35:02,903
item, I know there might have

3710
02:35:02,903 --> 02:35:04,639
been some confusion. The

3711
02:35:04,639 --> 02:35:06,542
re-entry word doesn't apply just

3712
02:35:06,542 --> 02:35:07,676
to this. There's a whole campus

3713
02:35:07,676 --> 02:35:10,444
that's being developed in the

3714
02:35:10,444 --> 02:35:11,780
city of orange. And I think the

3715
02:35:11,780 --> 02:35:13,780
ground-break something tomorrow.

3716
02:35:14,916 --> 02:35:16,617
And it involves the

3717
02:35:16,617 --> 02:35:18,617
transitional-aged youth that

3718
02:35:19,254 --> 02:35:20,387
will have a new campus and a new

3719
02:35:20,387 --> 02:35:23,387
workforce re-entry on the front

3720
02:35:23,391 --> 02:35:25,626
end. And that will be item 64.

3721
02:35:25,626 --> 02:35:26,760
So, you know, I know that the

3722
02:35:26,760 --> 02:35:29,731
titles were confusing, but to

3723
02:35:29,731 --> 02:35:32,900
the extent that I believe the

3724
02:35:32,900 --> 02:35:34,302
ceo was able to send out a

3725
02:35:34,302 --> 02:35:35,971
letter -- thank you, MADAM Ceo,

3726
02:35:35,971 --> 02:35:37,238
for sending that letter out --

3727
02:35:37,238 --> 02:35:38,874
last night to the city manager.

3728
02:35:38,874 --> 02:35:39,640
I know we were on the phone with

3729
02:35:39,640 --> 02:35:41,243
the city manager letting him

3730
02:35:41,243 --> 02:35:42,977
know that the ceo was working on

3731
02:35:42,977 --> 02:35:44,411
this, just to clear things up in

3732
02:35:44,411 --> 02:35:45,980
advance. But I think your point

3733
02:35:45,980 --> 02:35:47,382
was well received. Thank you

3734
02:35:47,382 --> 02:35:49,750
for hosting a community meeting

3735
02:35:49,750 --> 02:35:51,685
that I attended last week where

3736
02:35:51,685 --> 02:35:52,954
I made my position clear on

3737
02:35:52,954 --> 02:35:55,356
this. So I want to thank the

3738
02:35:55,356 --> 02:35:56,758
staff. And I do believe that,

3739
02:35:56,758 --> 02:35:58,760
to the extent that the program

3740
02:35:58,760 --> 02:36:01,162
is a good program, and that's

3741
02:36:01,162 --> 02:36:02,363
something I think everybody

3742
02:36:02,363 --> 02:36:04,166
said. It's site location that's

3743
02:36:04,166 --> 02:36:05,700
the tricky part of any programs

3744
02:36:05,700 --> 02:36:07,836
like this. So to the extent

3745
02:36:07,836 --> 02:36:08,837
there's advance work, wasn't a

3746
02:36:08,837 --> 02:36:10,573
program to be successful and

3747
02:36:10,573 --> 02:36:12,207
embraced by not only the city,

3748
02:36:12,207 --> 02:36:14,607
but the surrounding neighborhood

3749
02:36:15,210 --> 02:36:17,212
and businesses that -- where it

3750
02:36:17,212 --> 02:36:19,648
will be located. I want to

3751
02:36:19,648 --> 02:36:21,550
thank the ceo and her team for,

3752
02:36:21,550 --> 02:36:23,885
you know, re-evaluating and

3753
02:36:23,885 --> 02:36:25,530
making sure that we do things in

3754
02:36:25,530 --> 02:36:27,323
a way that everybody can be

3755
02:36:27,323 --> 02:36:29,524
proud of, you know, what will

3756
02:36:29,524 --> 02:36:31,626
be, I think, a great system of

3757
02:36:31,626 --> 02:36:33,996
oc cares, that she's worked on

3758
02:36:33,996 --> 02:36:36,398
for many, many years. I think

3759
02:36:36,398 --> 02:36:38,834
this whole idea of oc cares

3760
02:36:38,834 --> 02:36:40,235
began back in 2019. So we know

3761
02:36:40,235 --> 02:36:41,670
a big significant piece is going

3762
02:36:41,670 --> 02:36:43,710
to be tomorrow when that ground

3763
02:36:43,710 --> 02:36:46,541
is broken in the city of orange

3764
02:36:46,541 --> 02:36:48,610
and that's the kind of work that

3765
02:36:48,610 --> 02:36:49,677
I think you are -- you know, we

3766
02:36:49,677 --> 02:36:52,460
are very proud of your efforts

3767
02:36:52,460 --> 02:36:54,820
in that. And that's the way we

3768
02:36:54,820 --> 02:36:55,484
should move forward. With that,

3769
02:36:55,484 --> 02:36:56,384
MR. Chair, those are my

3770
02:36:56,384 --> 02:36:56,579
comments. Thank you for the

3771
02:36:56,579 --> 02:36:57,919
time

3772
02:36:57,919 --> 02:36:59,954
>>chair, doug chaffee: any other

3773
02:36:59,954 --> 02:37:03,910
comments? Well, I need to kind

3774
02:37:03,910 --> 02:37:04,927
of speak on the re-entry center

3775
02:37:04,927 --> 02:37:07,128
myself. I'm going to go back a

3776
02:37:07,128 --> 02:37:09,130
ways. When I first came on this

3777
02:37:09,130 --> 02:37:11,320
board that was almost eight

3778
02:37:11,320 --> 02:37:12,533
years ago, and one of the

3779
02:37:12,533 --> 02:37:15,304
committees I was assigned to was

3780
02:37:15,304 --> 02:37:16,204
the orange county criminal

3781
02:37:16,204 --> 02:37:18,204
justice coordinating council.

3782
02:37:18,673 --> 02:37:20,842
And I remember first walking

3783
02:37:20,842 --> 02:37:23,278
into that meeting. I looked

3784
02:37:23,278 --> 02:37:25,280
around. Who are all these

3785
02:37:25,280 --> 02:37:28,280
people? We had the three

3786
02:37:28,549 --> 02:37:30,852
presiding judges present from

3787
02:37:30,852 --> 02:37:32,987
each of our court systems,

3788
02:37:32,987 --> 02:37:35,189
MR. Spitzer, the D.A. Was there,

3789
02:37:35,189 --> 02:37:36,425
the public defender was there,

3790
02:37:36,425 --> 02:37:39,425
the head of the probation

3791
02:37:39,494 --> 02:37:40,728
department was present, we had

3792
02:37:40,728 --> 02:37:42,728
health care representatives

3793
02:37:43,698 --> 02:37:45,167
there, and we had of course our

3794
02:37:45,167 --> 02:37:47,350
ceo present as well as financial

3795
02:37:47,350 --> 02:37:49,435
people. The homeless liaison

3796
02:37:50,205 --> 02:37:51,740
was there. We were all doing --

3797
02:37:51,740 --> 02:37:54,140
we were coordinating these

3798
02:37:54,876 --> 02:37:56,912
different kinds of departments

3799
02:37:56,912 --> 02:37:57,646
that sometimes were isolate

3800
02:37:57,646 --> 02:37:59,882
expiemed of like silos and

3801
02:37:59,882 --> 02:38:02,510
putting it all together. Not

3802
02:38:02,510 --> 02:38:03,152
only, that we developed a bunch

3803
02:38:03,152 --> 02:38:04,687
of pillars. One of those

3804
02:38:04,687 --> 02:38:07,389
pillars is the release of

3805
02:38:07,389 --> 02:38:09,424
inmates who observed their term,

3806
02:38:09,424 --> 02:38:12,828
who we wanted to help them so

3807
02:38:12,828 --> 02:38:14,596
they don't go back to a life of

3808
02:38:14,596 --> 02:38:16,799
crime, we call that the re-entry

3809
02:38:16,799 --> 02:38:20,399
center. This is kind of the

3810
02:38:20,836 --> 02:38:23,104
culmination lasting really need

3811
02:38:23,104 --> 02:38:24,573
to make that plan work. And if

3812
02:38:24,573 --> 02:38:26,609
you look at our jail population,

3813
02:38:26,609 --> 02:38:28,276
it's not nearly what it was. I

3814
02:38:28,276 --> 02:38:29,811
think we're doing a great job

3815
02:38:29,811 --> 02:38:32,147
reducing the amount of crime.

3816
02:38:32,147 --> 02:38:35,284
So this is a place that's hard

3817
02:38:35,284 --> 02:38:36,885
to find -- it's hard to find a

3818
02:38:36,885 --> 02:38:39,722
place. It's done a great job

3819
02:38:39,722 --> 02:38:41,957
with juveniles. So much so that

3820
02:38:41,957 --> 02:38:42,958
this place MAY not be needed for

3821
02:38:42,958 --> 02:38:45,940
that purpose anymore. Where is

3822
02:38:45,940 --> 02:38:45,960
it? It's bounded by the flight

3823
02:38:45,960 --> 02:38:48,297
control channel and freeways,

3824
02:38:48,297 --> 02:38:50,533
and it's gated. It's not near

3825
02:38:50,533 --> 02:38:52,934
any home or any type of threat.

3826
02:38:52,934 --> 02:38:55,170
So what this is doing is

3827
02:38:55,170 --> 02:38:57,372
reducing the possibility of

3828
02:38:57,372 --> 02:38:59,808
crime into our county. And if

3829
02:38:59,808 --> 02:39:01,543
we didn't have this kind of

3830
02:39:01,543 --> 02:39:03,780
center, where would these people

3831
02:39:03,780 --> 02:39:05,146
go? I dare say many of them

3832
02:39:05,146 --> 02:39:07,383
would be on the streets of santa

3833
02:39:07,383 --> 02:39:09,500
ana unsupervised. And this is

3834
02:39:09,500 --> 02:39:11,219
not anything that's secret.

3835
02:39:11,219 --> 02:39:13,788
It's been there a long time.

3836
02:39:13,788 --> 02:39:14,990
We've had chiefs of police in

3837
02:39:14,990 --> 02:39:17,393
santa ana serving on this board.

3838
02:39:17,393 --> 02:39:19,494
I have a chief of a large city

3839
02:39:19,494 --> 02:39:20,630
and one small as well on this

3840
02:39:20,630 --> 02:39:24,230
board. And it's been a major

3841
02:39:24,233 --> 02:39:25,967
effort to get to this point.

3842
02:39:25,967 --> 02:39:27,503
And my view is I want to thank

3843
02:39:27,503 --> 02:39:30,406
our ceo as part her legacy that

3844
02:39:30,406 --> 02:39:31,307
we've come this far. She's done

3845
02:39:31,307 --> 02:39:33,609
a tremendous job in helping this

3846
02:39:33,609 --> 02:39:35,878
go forward. It's very important

3847
02:39:35,878 --> 02:39:38,878
that this last component be

3848
02:39:38,981 --> 02:39:39,782
completed. And I don't

3849
02:39:39,782 --> 02:39:41,840
don't

3850
02:39:41,840 --> 02:39:43,319
know where the right place would

3851
02:39:43,319 --> 02:39:45,870
be, although, this has got more

3852
02:39:45,870 --> 02:39:46,656
barriers around it than any

3853
02:39:46,656 --> 02:39:48,570
other that I've seen. It's

3854
02:39:48,570 --> 02:39:51,194
pretty unusual that you can find

3855
02:39:51,194 --> 02:39:52,829
a place like that. Whenever it

3856
02:39:52,829 --> 02:39:54,130
is, it's going to reduce crime

3857
02:39:54,130 --> 02:39:56,466
in the area that it is situated

3858
02:39:56,466 --> 02:39:58,868
in. So as the chair, which I

3859
02:39:58,868 --> 02:40:02,468
have been for several years, the

3860
02:40:02,605 --> 02:40:05,641
oc c jcc, as we call it, I know

3861
02:40:05,641 --> 02:40:07,243
how important this is. I'm

3862
02:40:07,243 --> 02:40:10,480
hoping we can launch it before I

3863
02:40:10,480 --> 02:40:14,800
leave the board here. I don't

3864
02:40:16,552 --> 02:40:17,854
see any more comments. And so

3865
02:40:17,854 --> 02:40:20,854
with the suggestion change that

3866
02:40:20,889 --> 02:40:23,525
we delete 4a on this department

3867
02:40:23,525 --> 02:40:27,125
of conditions thing, and I think

3868
02:40:28,640 --> 02:40:30,466
we've taken care of the dna

3869
02:40:30,466 --> 02:40:31,600
staff I think it's otherwise

3870
02:40:31,600 --> 02:40:32,100
appropriate to simply move the

3871
02:40:32,100 --> 02:40:33,936
budget as been presented

3872
02:40:33,936 --> 02:40:34,136
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

3873
02:40:34,136 --> 02:40:34,704
second

3874
02:40:34,704 --> 02:40:36,438
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

3875
02:40:36,438 --> 02:40:37,774
right. County counsel a

3876
02:40:37,774 --> 02:40:39,774
comment, as usual.

3877
02:40:40,977 --> 02:40:42,477
>>leon page: I'm sorry,

3878
02:40:42,477 --> 02:40:44,813
MR. CHAIRMAN. I apologize for

3879
02:40:44,813 --> 02:40:46,148
doing this, but I would like to

3880
02:40:46,148 --> 02:40:48,148
discuss specifically your

3881
02:40:50,850 --> 02:40:51,487
proposal to delete from the

3882
02:40:51,487 --> 02:40:53,389
retirement system assistance

3883
02:40:53,389 --> 02:40:53,551
program policy that language in

3884
02:40:53,551 --> 02:40:55,425
4a

3885
02:40:55,425 --> 02:40:55,792
>>chair, doug chaffee: need a

3886
02:40:55,792 --> 02:40:57,626
separate motion

3887
02:40:57,626 --> 02:40:58,528
>>leon page: no. I just want to

3888
02:40:58,528 --> 02:40:59,161
highlight the legal concerns

3889
02:40:59,161 --> 02:41:01,797
that I have. The purpose of

3890
02:41:01,797 --> 02:41:04,797
this program is to encourage

3891
02:41:05,400 --> 02:41:06,435
voluntary separations. In each

3892
02:41:06,435 --> 02:41:08,835
department can fill every

3893
02:41:10,173 --> 02:41:12,408
position that's vacated and then

3894
02:41:12,408 --> 02:41:14,808
also pays $20,000 to the

3895
02:41:15,311 --> 02:41:17,711
departing employee, without the

3896
02:41:17,846 --> 02:41:19,415
language requiring that the

3897
02:41:19,415 --> 02:41:21,815
positions remain vacant, this

3898
02:41:21,818 --> 02:41:23,820
will backfire on you and you'll

3899
02:41:23,820 --> 02:41:24,921
suddenly have $20,000 hits while

3900
02:41:24,921 --> 02:41:27,757
also paying the salaries of the

3901
02:41:27,757 --> 02:41:30,940
new employees that are hired.

3902
02:41:30,940 --> 02:41:31,961
Now, I do believe that the ceo

3903
02:41:31,961 --> 02:41:34,300
has the existing authority under

3904
02:41:34,300 --> 02:41:35,432
county ordinance to freeze

3905
02:41:35,432 --> 02:41:37,134
vacant positions. Now, the

3906
02:41:37,134 --> 02:41:38,668
board does control the master

3907
02:41:38,668 --> 02:41:40,870
position control, and it's

3908
02:41:40,870 --> 02:41:42,105
through that document, through a

3909
02:41:42,105 --> 02:41:42,739
instrument that the board

3910
02:41:42,739 --> 02:41:45,739
controls the total number of

3911
02:41:46,409 --> 02:41:48,712
positions. But my expectation

3912
02:41:48,712 --> 02:41:50,180
is that if there are employees

3913
02:41:50,180 --> 02:41:52,482
and departments taking advantage

3914
02:41:52,482 --> 02:41:54,500
of this program, that the ceo

3915
02:41:54,500 --> 02:41:55,418
will administratively freeze

3916
02:41:55,418 --> 02:41:56,953
those positions, even if the ceo

3917
02:41:56,953 --> 02:41:58,255
can't delete them because that's

3918
02:41:58,255 --> 02:41:59,289
a board function. Those

3919
02:41:59,289 --> 02:42:02,289
positions will be frozen. I

3920
02:42:02,391 --> 02:42:03,894
think it's important that the

3921
02:42:03,894 --> 02:42:06,228
board understand that, that

3922
02:42:06,228 --> 02:42:07,290
there will still be impacts

3923
02:42:07,290 --> 02:42:09,766
because if the board's intention

3924
02:42:09,766 --> 02:42:10,934
is to fill every position that's

3925
02:42:10,934 --> 02:42:13,300
vacated, then I would recommend

3926
02:42:13,300 --> 02:42:13,904
you not adopt this policy

3927
02:42:13,904 --> 02:42:16,238
because it will make your budget

3928
02:42:16,238 --> 02:42:17,506
situation much worse. My second

3929
02:42:17,506 --> 02:42:18,674
comment is the amount of the

3930
02:42:18,674 --> 02:42:19,909
incentive is not actually

3931
02:42:19,909 --> 02:42:22,178
mentioned in the policy that's

3932
02:42:22,178 --> 02:42:23,913
before you today, and I am

3933
02:42:23,913 --> 02:42:26,480
concerned that, providing the

3934
02:42:26,480 --> 02:42:27,650
ceo with unbounded discretion as

3935
02:42:27,650 --> 02:42:29,753
to the amount of the incentive,

3936
02:42:29,753 --> 02:42:33,123
would be problematic. So I do

3937
02:42:33,123 --> 02:42:35,358
believe in briefing the ceo has

3938
02:42:35,358 --> 02:42:37,758
mentioned a $20,000 payment to

3939
02:42:41,498 --> 02:42:43,299
the health reimbursement account

3940
02:42:43,299 --> 02:42:45,134
account, health retirement

3941
02:42:45,134 --> 02:42:46,235
account. So I would recommend

3942
02:42:46,235 --> 02:42:47,636
that that amount be included and

3943
02:42:47,636 --> 02:42:49,672
I want the board to be aware

3944
02:42:49,672 --> 02:42:50,774
that the ceo does have the

3945
02:42:50,774 --> 02:42:52,876
authority to freeze vacant

3946
02:42:52,876 --> 02:42:53,810
positions and I expect positions

3947
02:42:53,810 --> 02:42:57,470
vacated as a result of this

3948
02:42:57,470 --> 02:43:00,470
program will be frozen. Thank

3949
02:43:01,184 --> 02:43:02,351
you.

3950
02:43:02,351 --> 02:43:02,618
>>chair, doug chaffee:

3951
02:43:02,618 --> 02:43:03,587
vice-chair

3952
02:43:03,587 --> 02:43:04,755
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

3953
02:43:04,755 --> 02:43:06,756
you, MR. CHAIRMAN. I appreciate

3954
02:43:06,756 --> 02:43:07,557
those comments. From my

3955
02:43:07,557 --> 02:43:09,590
perspective, the freeze

3956
02:43:09,590 --> 02:43:10,461
something one thing. The

3957
02:43:10,461 --> 02:43:11,228
deleting of the positions is all

3958
02:43:11,228 --> 02:43:12,295
together different, and we do

3959
02:43:12,295 --> 02:43:15,895
have a hiring freeze right now,

3960
02:43:16,734 --> 02:43:17,634
so nothing would change. The

3961
02:43:17,634 --> 02:43:19,569
discretion of the ceo to work

3962
02:43:19,569 --> 02:43:20,671
with the department head to

3963
02:43:20,671 --> 02:43:22,773
determine whether or not that

3964
02:43:22,773 --> 02:43:24,307
position is a necessary position

3965
02:43:24,307 --> 02:43:26,430
needing to be filled would

3966
02:43:26,430 --> 02:43:27,543
continue. But we won't lose the

3967
02:43:27,543 --> 02:43:28,946
positions. We'll gain the

3968
02:43:28,946 --> 02:43:30,800
salary savings because many of

3969
02:43:30,800 --> 02:43:32,683
the individuals in the positions

3970
02:43:32,683 --> 02:43:36,587
are at a much higher salary than

3971
02:43:36,587 --> 02:43:37,554
the rest of the group who might

3972
02:43:37,554 --> 02:43:38,956
take advantage of this. And

3973
02:43:38,956 --> 02:43:42,920
then we also will, as I

3974
02:43:42,920 --> 02:43:43,293
understand it -- we will have a

3975
02:43:43,293 --> 02:43:46,893
savings as it relates to the

3976
02:43:48,131 --> 02:43:50,266
pensions because many of these

3977
02:43:50,266 --> 02:43:53,266
are individuals who are not

3978
02:43:54,805 --> 02:43:55,938
subject to pepra. So the new

3979
02:43:55,938 --> 02:43:57,474
pepra rules are less burdensome

3980
02:43:57,474 --> 02:43:59,809
on the county contribution. So

3981
02:43:59,809 --> 02:44:01,778
I do think that there will be

3982
02:44:01,778 --> 02:44:02,945
savings. I think the hiring

3983
02:44:02,945 --> 02:44:04,347
freeze, I would expect that that

3984
02:44:04,347 --> 02:44:06,484
be continued until we say it's

3985
02:44:06,484 --> 02:44:08,251
not. There's a policy question,

3986
02:44:08,251 --> 02:44:09,653
not really a legal one. And as

3987
02:44:09,653 --> 02:44:12,653
a policy matter, I sport

3988
02:44:13,790 --> 02:44:16,560
deletion. I also am supportive

3989
02:44:16,560 --> 02:44:18,127
of having the $20,000 add in. I

3990
02:44:18,127 --> 02:44:19,362
do think that's important so

3991
02:44:19,362 --> 02:44:21,164
that there's clear direction as

3992
02:44:21,164 --> 02:44:22,699
to what we expect in terms of

3993
02:44:22,699 --> 02:44:23,399
the incentive.

3994
02:44:23,399 --> 02:44:25,350
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

3995
02:44:25,350 --> 02:44:27,350
you. Supervisor wagner.

3996
02:44:27,204 --> 02:44:28,938
>>don wagner: I just wonder

3997
02:44:28,938 --> 02:44:30,440
whether we're trying too hard.

3998
02:44:30,440 --> 02:44:34,640
Maybe the solution is leave a in

3999
02:44:34,877 --> 02:44:38,477
there but change that "shall" to

4000
02:44:39,349 --> 02:44:41,584
"MAY." does that do it?

4001
02:44:41,584 --> 02:44:42,252
>>chair, doug chaffee: well, I

4002
02:44:42,252 --> 02:44:43,419
think vice-chair pointed out, as

4003
02:44:43,419 --> 02:44:45,655
long as there's a hiring freeze,

4004
02:44:45,655 --> 02:44:48,550
it doesn't really matter.

4005
02:44:48,726 --> 02:44:51,126
>>don wagner: understood. I

4006
02:44:52,696 --> 02:44:54,798
know we're hearing from ocea

4007
02:44:54,798 --> 02:44:56,600
about the challenges with the

4008
02:44:56,600 --> 02:44:58,902
directive and some push-back,

4009
02:44:58,902 --> 02:45:01,672
and I respect that. And we'll

4010
02:45:01,672 --> 02:45:04,675
see if there is a way here to

4011
02:45:04,675 --> 02:45:05,309
finesse that and make it "MAY."

4012
02:45:05,309 --> 02:45:08,309
>>chair, doug chaffee: you want

4013
02:45:08,445 --> 02:45:12,645
to have the ocea head come up

4014
02:45:12,683 --> 02:45:14,584
and address that?

4015
02:45:14,584 --> 02:45:15,819
>>don wagner: well, I guess the

4016
02:45:15,819 --> 02:45:18,880
first thing would be whether

4017
02:45:18,880 --> 02:45:21,880
that would be something that

4018
02:45:21,759 --> 02:45:24,595
would work with the ceo or maybe

4019
02:45:24,595 --> 02:45:26,296
we delete a all together and

4020
02:45:26,296 --> 02:45:27,697
realize you have that inherent

4021
02:45:27,697 --> 02:45:29,533
power counsel just told us

4022
02:45:29,533 --> 02:45:31,736
about. I'm not sure what the

4023
02:45:31,736 --> 02:45:33,104
easiest path is here

4024
02:45:33,104 --> 02:45:33,770
>>michelle aguirre: if I might,

4025
02:45:33,770 --> 02:45:35,770
supervisor...

4026
02:45:37,608 --> 02:45:40,110
You know, deletion of 4a or

4027
02:45:40,110 --> 02:45:41,746
changing the word "shall" to

4028
02:45:41,746 --> 02:45:44,681
"MAY" be deleted with the

4029
02:45:44,681 --> 02:45:46,617
additional language of "unless

4030
02:45:46,617 --> 02:45:49,170
an exemption is authorized,"

4031
02:45:50,153 --> 02:45:52,956
et cetera. So this is what I

4032
02:45:52,956 --> 02:45:54,724
would say the ceo, right, budget

4033
02:45:54,724 --> 02:45:56,893
and finance office staff do all

4034
02:45:56,893 --> 02:45:57,661
day every day, working with

4035
02:45:57,661 --> 02:45:59,229
departments. This isn't the

4036
02:45:59,229 --> 02:45:59,997
first time that we've done this.

4037
02:45:59,997 --> 02:46:02,397
My understanding is there's

4038
02:46:02,533 --> 02:46:03,867
concern about, if we had -- the

4039
02:46:03,867 --> 02:46:05,403
number was referenced earlier,

4040
02:46:05,403 --> 02:46:07,571
2000, based on the V.I.P.

4041
02:46:07,571 --> 02:46:09,971
Program that we implemented

4042
02:46:10,874 --> 02:46:12,442
during covid previously, you

4043
02:46:12,442 --> 02:46:14,345
know. We don't anticipate

4044
02:46:14,345 --> 02:46:16,790
having 2000. But we know that

4045
02:46:16,790 --> 02:46:18,516
2000 would be a significant hit.

4046
02:46:18,516 --> 02:46:20,517
we know that depending on which

4047
02:46:20,517 --> 02:46:22,118
positions are vacated, we

4048
02:46:22,118 --> 02:46:22,753
can't -- let's say it's a

4049
02:46:22,753 --> 02:46:24,540
department head, we're not just

4050
02:46:24,540 --> 02:46:25,589
going to delete a department

4051
02:46:25,589 --> 02:46:26,657
head position, right. There

4052
02:46:26,657 --> 02:46:28,893
would just be a common sense

4053
02:46:28,893 --> 02:46:31,293
approach to implementation and

4054
02:46:31,528 --> 02:46:33,928
administration of this program.

4055
02:46:35,165 --> 02:46:35,799
While it says "shall be

4056
02:46:35,799 --> 02:46:37,100
deleted," we had also mentioned

4057
02:46:37,100 --> 02:46:39,300
that section 6 of the policy

4058
02:46:39,300 --> 02:46:40,572
does provide the ceo with the

4059
02:46:40,572 --> 02:46:41,706
ability -- the flexibility and

4060
02:46:41,706 --> 02:46:43,410
the implementation via the

4061
02:46:43,410 --> 02:46:45,242
administration of the program.

4062
02:46:45,242 --> 02:46:46,744
So while it says "shall," it

4063
02:46:46,744 --> 02:46:48,880
wouldn't just be automatic as

4064
02:46:48,880 --> 02:46:50,481
the program is being

4065
02:46:50,481 --> 02:46:53,481
administered. So I have no

4066
02:46:53,718 --> 02:46:55,153
problem with changing "shall" to

4067
02:46:55,153 --> 02:46:56,621
"MAY" and then using the other

4068
02:46:56,621 --> 02:46:57,522
language because that's how it

4069
02:46:57,522 --> 02:46:59,257
would be implemented anyway

4070
02:46:59,257 --> 02:47:01,224
>>don wagner: you don't need the

4071
02:47:01,224 --> 02:47:02,727
other language if it's "MAY."

4072
02:47:02,727 --> 02:47:04,362
>>michelle aguirre: correct.

4073
02:47:04,362 --> 02:47:05,290
You could just put a period at

4074
02:47:05,290 --> 02:47:07,290
the end

4075
02:47:09,700 --> 02:47:11,436
>>don wagner: right.. And I do

4076
02:47:11,436 --> 02:47:14,372
want to know what MR. Barfield

4077
02:47:14,372 --> 02:47:16,372
has to say.

4078
02:47:17,475 --> 02:47:19,309
>>speaker: so this is a

4079
02:47:19,309 --> 02:47:21,709
mandatory subject of bargaining

4080
02:47:22,450 --> 02:47:25,830
on impacts. Even if you adopt

4081
02:47:25,830 --> 02:47:28,850
this today, you are obliged to

4082
02:47:28,850 --> 02:47:30,487
meet and confirm with us, I.E.,

4083
02:47:30,487 --> 02:47:32,690
on those impacts at a minimum.

4084
02:47:32,690 --> 02:47:33,857
My fear, and I shared this to

4085
02:47:33,857 --> 02:47:36,461
some of you, is that this would

4086
02:47:36,461 --> 02:47:38,195
get turned into a public

4087
02:47:38,195 --> 02:47:41,195
negotiation. So I gotta tell

4088
02:47:42,330 --> 02:47:44,234
ya, I'm absolutely flabbergasted

4089
02:47:44,234 --> 02:47:45,969
that we're having this

4090
02:47:45,969 --> 02:47:47,971
conversation. And with county

4091
02:47:47,971 --> 02:47:51,571
counsel opining on it from a

4092
02:47:52,744 --> 02:47:55,345
legal standpoint, to me, it is a

4093
02:47:55,345 --> 02:47:56,460
policy question. I appreciate

4094
02:47:56,460 --> 02:47:59,460
leon pointing out that the

4095
02:48:00,318 --> 02:48:01,719
dollar apt was not included --

4096
02:48:01,719 --> 02:48:03,353
the dollar amount was not

4097
02:48:03,353 --> 02:48:04,321
included. I noticed that too.

4098
02:48:04,321 --> 02:48:07,921
But to have this discussion in

4099
02:48:08,225 --> 02:48:11,825
public is incredible to me. I

4100
02:48:12,329 --> 02:48:14,729
did answer your question,

4101
02:48:15,232 --> 02:48:18,232
MR. Supervisor? I'm not going

4102
02:48:19,300 --> 02:48:21,806
to answer that in public. It's

4103
02:48:21,806 --> 02:48:24,242
up to this board to adopt some

4104
02:48:24,242 --> 02:48:25,944
action, and then that will

4105
02:48:25,944 --> 02:48:28,944
trigger the necessary meet and

4106
02:48:29,714 --> 02:48:31,820
confer process. And I think

4107
02:48:31,820 --> 02:48:32,717
earlier I made our position

4108
02:48:32,717 --> 02:48:34,752
known. I'm not going to take a

4109
02:48:34,752 --> 02:48:37,550
public position to say, oh,

4110
02:48:37,550 --> 02:48:39,491
yeah, that will fix it. There's

4111
02:48:39,491 --> 02:48:41,926
still a lot wrong with this.

4112
02:48:41,926 --> 02:48:43,962
And if the board so chooses to

4113
02:48:43,962 --> 02:48:45,463
include this item as a

4114
02:48:45,463 --> 02:48:48,463
cost-saving measure as part of

4115
02:48:48,800 --> 02:48:50,301
this budget, it will trigger the

4116
02:48:50,301 --> 02:48:53,301
obligation to meet and confer

4117
02:48:53,338 --> 02:48:54,973
with us, and I think I made our

4118
02:48:54,973 --> 02:48:56,374
position pretty darn clear.

4119
02:48:56,374 --> 02:48:58,774
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

4120
02:48:58,877 --> 02:49:01,460
you. I think by deleting it, we

4121
02:49:01,460 --> 02:49:01,946
can come back and add something

4122
02:49:01,946 --> 02:49:03,415
later if we need to. Because

4123
02:49:03,415 --> 02:49:06,350
there's this dollar amount that

4124
02:49:06,350 --> 02:49:08,485
we did not address, and I think

4125
02:49:08,485 --> 02:49:10,885
meeting and conferring in

4126
02:49:11,790 --> 02:49:14,580
advance would be wise here. So

4127
02:49:14,580 --> 02:49:15,593
I'm going to stay with simply

4128
02:49:15,593 --> 02:49:16,527
deleting it. We can work out

4129
02:49:16,527 --> 02:49:18,730
language later. And right now

4130
02:49:18,730 --> 02:49:21,700
it's kind of bogged down. So

4131
02:49:21,700 --> 02:49:23,301
I'd like to adopt a budget. We

4132
02:49:23,301 --> 02:49:25,737
got about 110 other items to

4133
02:49:25,737 --> 02:49:27,370
look at before we're done today

4134
02:49:27,370 --> 02:49:27,672
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

4135
02:49:27,672 --> 02:49:28,740
MR. CHAIRMAN, did you want to

4136
02:49:28,740 --> 02:49:30,174
put the dollar amount in or no

4137
02:49:30,174 --> 02:49:31,709
>>chair, doug chaffee: well, I'm

4138
02:49:31,709 --> 02:49:34,246
not quite sure how to word that

4139
02:49:34,246 --> 02:49:34,879
one either. Supervisor nguyen,

4140
02:49:34,879 --> 02:49:37,279
you have a comment?

4141
02:49:37,782 --> 02:49:41,382
>>janet nguyen: I do. So I'm

4142
02:49:42,187 --> 02:49:45,187
trying to understand all this.

4143
02:49:46,524 --> 02:49:49,928
County counsel, so if item a is

4144
02:49:49,928 --> 02:49:52,663
deleted, does that -- does the

4145
02:49:52,663 --> 02:49:55,233
ceo still continue to have -- i

4146
02:49:55,233 --> 02:49:58,636
mean, be able to freeze. So it

4147
02:49:58,636 --> 02:50:01,573
doesn't stop her or him from

4148
02:50:01,573 --> 02:50:01,806
freezing these positions going

4149
02:50:01,806 --> 02:50:02,907
forward?

4150
02:50:02,907 --> 02:50:04,408
>>leon page: that's right. And

4151
02:50:04,408 --> 02:50:05,643
that's why I spoke. I wanted

4152
02:50:05,643 --> 02:50:07,546
the board to be aware of the

4153
02:50:07,546 --> 02:50:08,146
ceo's existing authority just so

4154
02:50:08,146 --> 02:50:09,781
that everyone is on the same

4155
02:50:09,781 --> 02:50:11,382
page and departments don't have

4156
02:50:11,382 --> 02:50:12,284
expectations because the board

4157
02:50:12,284 --> 02:50:14,619
deleted that language that they

4158
02:50:14,619 --> 02:50:17,190
can now fill positions

4159
02:50:17,556 --> 02:50:17,789
irregardless of the budgetary

4160
02:50:17,789 --> 02:50:19,789
impacts.

4161
02:50:22,995 --> 02:50:26,231
>>janet nguyen: and then can you

4162
02:50:26,231 --> 02:50:29,831
address, if we move forward with

4163
02:50:31,270 --> 02:50:32,271
this, if we delete, a, do we go

4164
02:50:32,271 --> 02:50:34,606
then into meet and confer or

4165
02:50:34,606 --> 02:50:38,477
does it have to be in this item

4166
02:50:38,477 --> 02:50:40,679
to be going to meet and confer?

4167
02:50:40,679 --> 02:50:42,381
>>leon page: I think the county

4168
02:50:42,381 --> 02:50:44,683
will engage in good faith with

4169
02:50:44,683 --> 02:50:45,917
all of the effected employee

4170
02:50:45,917 --> 02:50:47,753
organizations regardless of

4171
02:50:47,753 --> 02:50:50,550
whether the language of 4a is

4172
02:50:50,550 --> 02:50:53,492
included or not. I mean, this

4173
02:50:53,492 --> 02:50:54,393
could obviously have impacts on

4174
02:50:54,393 --> 02:50:55,426
county employees. And it's

4175
02:50:55,426 --> 02:50:57,796
those impacts that the county

4176
02:50:57,796 --> 02:50:59,263
has to meet and confer with the

4177
02:50:59,263 --> 02:51:00,599
organizations over.

4178
02:51:00,599 --> 02:51:02,801
>>janet nguyen: last question,

4179
02:51:02,801 --> 02:51:06,104
then, you can give us a language

4180
02:51:06,104 --> 02:51:08,504
to include the $20,000? What

4181
02:51:10,542 --> 02:51:12,878
that language would be? For us

4182
02:51:12,878 --> 02:51:14,878
to consider?

4183
02:51:17,483 --> 02:51:20,218
>>leon page: sure. The amount

4184
02:51:20,218 --> 02:51:22,618
of the incentive contemplated

4185
02:51:24,423 --> 02:51:26,858
herein shall be $20,000, up to

4186
02:51:26,858 --> 02:51:28,493
$20,000 to the employees -- it

4187
02:51:28,493 --> 02:51:29,329
shall be a contribution --

4188
02:51:29,329 --> 02:51:29,962
employee contribution --

4189
02:51:29,962 --> 02:51:32,898
>>janet nguyen: I'm sorry. So

4190
02:51:32,898 --> 02:51:35,234
the ceo is nodding her head no.

4191
02:51:35,234 --> 02:51:35,467
MADAM Ceo, not up to, just

4192
02:51:35,467 --> 02:51:37,235
$20,000?

4193
02:51:37,235 --> 02:51:39,635
>>michelle aguirre: yeah. I

4194
02:51:40,572 --> 02:51:44,772
mean, if we are looking -- if

4195
02:51:45,143 --> 02:51:46,779
you want it to be 20,000, just

4196
02:51:46,779 --> 02:51:48,346
state 20,000. That was intent.

4197
02:51:48,346 --> 02:51:49,147
If you want to provide

4198
02:51:49,147 --> 02:51:52,147
flexibility, then it would be

4199
02:51:53,585 --> 02:51:55,585
the up to.

4200
02:51:55,755 --> 02:51:57,523
>>janet nguyen: what do you --

4201
02:51:57,523 --> 02:52:00,459
>>michelle aguirre: what we were

4202
02:52:00,459 --> 02:52:03,459
intending to move forward with

4203
02:52:04,960 --> 02:52:06,632
was the $20 contribution to the

4204
02:52:06,632 --> 02:52:06,865
hra. I am fine with that

4205
02:52:06,865 --> 02:52:07,399
language

4206
02:52:07,399 --> 02:52:08,733
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

4207
02:52:08,733 --> 02:52:10,703
MR. Chair, let's just add that

4208
02:52:10,703 --> 02:52:11,237
to the motion, the $20,000

4209
02:52:11,237 --> 02:52:13,506
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

4210
02:52:13,506 --> 02:52:14,940
right. Well, let's -- no. This

4211
02:52:14,940 --> 02:52:18,244
is a little different. How do

4212
02:52:18,244 --> 02:52:19,679
we word, that up to -- added to

4213
02:52:19,679 --> 02:52:20,279
the hc account

4214
02:52:20,279 --> 02:52:23,279
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: not

4215
02:52:24,784 --> 02:52:26,686
up to. Will just $20,000ed to

4216
02:52:26,686 --> 02:52:29,655
the incentive hra account. She

4217
02:52:29,655 --> 02:52:33,855
says she wants it to just be

4218
02:52:36,628 --> 02:52:38,864
$20,000, not an up to.

4219
02:52:38,864 --> 02:52:41,766
>>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN, I

4220
02:52:41,766 --> 02:52:44,300
suggested the "up to," but MADAM

4221
02:52:44,300 --> 02:52:45,710
Ceo said she preferred just to

4222
02:52:45,710 --> 02:52:46,380
stay directly at $20,000 so

4223
02:52:46,380 --> 02:52:47,105
there's no confusion

4224
02:52:47,105 --> 02:52:48,974
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: that

4225
02:52:48,974 --> 02:52:49,442
way you reduce the haggling and

4226
02:52:49,442 --> 02:52:50,575
all that

4227
02:52:50,575 --> 02:52:52,277
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

4228
02:52:52,277 --> 02:52:53,411
right. County counsel, you can

4229
02:52:53,411 --> 02:52:54,779
give us some language that

4230
02:52:54,779 --> 02:52:55,614
combines what we're talking

4231
02:52:55,614 --> 02:52:57,614
about here

4232
02:53:03,488 --> 02:53:05,725
>>leon page: yes. The amount of

4233
02:53:05,725 --> 02:53:08,725
the one-time contribution to the

4234
02:53:09,261 --> 02:53:10,863
employees hra shall be $20,000.

4235
02:53:10,863 --> 02:53:11,350
>>chair, doug chaffee: that's

4236
02:53:11,350 --> 02:53:12,364
it

4237
02:53:12,364 --> 02:53:12,632
>>leon page: and I put that in

4238
02:53:12,632 --> 02:53:13,899
section 3

4239
02:53:13,899 --> 02:53:16,899
>>chair, doug chaffee: and the

4240
02:53:17,269 --> 02:53:19,238
deletion of 4a? Is that a

4241
02:53:19,238 --> 02:53:19,437
separate item or do we combine

4242
02:53:19,437 --> 02:53:20,505
these

4243
02:53:20,505 --> 02:53:21,907
>>leon page: that would be -- I

4244
02:53:21,907 --> 02:53:25,507
would put that language that I

4245
02:53:25,710 --> 02:53:29,310
just spoke of in section 3 of

4246
02:53:30,248 --> 02:53:31,917
the policy. And then 4a can be

4247
02:53:31,917 --> 02:53:33,386
removed, if that's the direction

4248
02:53:33,386 --> 02:53:35,721
of the board. And again, this

4249
02:53:35,721 --> 02:53:35,921
all will be subject to meet and

4250
02:53:35,921 --> 02:53:37,189
confer

4251
02:53:37,189 --> 02:53:40,189
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay. So

4252
02:53:40,960 --> 02:53:43,263
that's the motion. Are there

4253
02:53:43,263 --> 02:53:45,398
any objection as soon as I got

4254
02:53:45,398 --> 02:53:46,899
it. All right. Now, did we

4255
02:53:46,899 --> 02:53:47,900
move the whole budget with that,

4256
02:53:47,900 --> 02:53:50,360
too? All right. We included

4257
02:53:50,360 --> 02:53:52,338
that. All right. I think we're

4258
02:53:52,338 --> 02:53:53,239
finished with that item. And it

4259
02:53:53,239 --> 02:53:56,809
is now noon. What does the

4260
02:53:56,809 --> 02:53:58,544
board want to do? To come back

4261
02:53:58,544 --> 02:54:00,460
later, which we're going to have

4262
02:54:00,460 --> 02:54:01,947
to anyway, or do you want to go

4263
02:54:01,947 --> 02:54:03,983
to closed session? Closed

4264
02:54:03,983 --> 02:54:04,851
session? All right. MADAM

4265
02:54:04,851 --> 02:54:07,851
Clerk, would you read the

4266
02:54:35,281 --> 02:54:36,480
closed-session items please?

4267
02:54:36,480 --> 02:54:36,882
Cs1. County executive office-

4268
02:54:36,882 --> 02:54:37,716
conference with labor negotiator

4269
02:54:37,716 --> 02:54:38,518
-pursuant to

4270
02:54:38,518 --> 02:54:39,418
government code section 54957.6:

4271
02:54:39,418 --> 02:54:40,285
agency negotiator: jamie newton,

4272
02:54:40,285 --> 02:54:41,154
chief human resources officer

4273
02:54:41,154 --> 02:54:41,987
employee organizations:

4274
02:54:41,987 --> 02:54:42,789
association of orange county

4275
02:54:42,789 --> 02:54:43,623
deputy sheriffs (Aocds), orange

4276
02:54:43,623 --> 02:54:44,424
county employees association

4277
02:54:44,424 --> 02:54:45,224
(Ocea), orange county attorneys

4278
02:54:45,224 --> 02:54:46,126
association (Ocaa),

4279
02:54:46,126 --> 02:54:46,959
international union of operating

4280
02:54:46,959 --> 02:54:47,694
engineers(Iuoe), association of

4281
02:54:47,694 --> 02:54:48,527
county law enforcement

4282
02:54:48,527 --> 02:54:49,328
managers (Aclem), american

4283
02:54:49,328 --> 02:54:50,630
federation of state, county and

4284
02:54:50,630 --> 02:54:50,897
municipal employees

4285
02:54:50,897 --> 02:54:51,664
(Afscme), orange county managers

4286
02:54:51,664 --> 02:54:52,364
association (Ocma), teamsters,

4287
02:54:52,364 --> 02:54:53,132
and workers represented

4288
02:54:53,132 --> 02:54:53,899
by united domestic workers of

4289
02:54:53,899 --> 02:54:54,667
america (Udwa) And other

4290
02:54:54,667 --> 02:54:56,667
non-represented employees

4291
02:54:58,538 --> 02:54:59,405
re: terms and conditions of

4292
02:54:59,405 --> 02:54:59,973
of employment

4293
02:54:59,973 --> 02:55:00,606
scs2. County counsel-

4294
02:55:00,606 --> 02:55:02,107
conference with legal counsel-

4295
02:55:02,107 --> 02:55:02,307
anticipated litigation

4296
02:55:02,307 --> 02:55:02,775
-

4297
02:55:02,775 --> 02:55:03,442
significant exposure to

4298
02:55:03,442 --> 02:55:04,543
litigation-pursuant to

4299
02:55:04,543 --> 02:55:06,543
government code section

4300
02:55:09,149 --> 02:55:11,149
54956.9(D)(2):

4301
02:55:12,384 --> 02:55:13,860
number of cases, multiple.

4302
02:55:13,860 --> 02:55:13,752
Scs3. County counsel-

4303
02:55:13,752 --> 02:55:14,453
conference with legal counsel --

4304
02:55:14,453 --> 02:55:15,288
existing litigation-

4305
02:55:15,288 --> 02:55:16,890
pursuant to government code

4306
02:55:16,890 --> 02:55:16,989
section 54956.9(D)(1):

4307
02:55:16,989 --> 02:55:17,857
name of case: G.C. V. County of

4308
02:55:17,857 --> 02:55:20,257
orange, orange county superior

4309
02:55:20,960 --> 02:55:23,360
court case no. 30-2022-

4310
02:55:29,303 --> 02:55:31,303
01274942-cu-po-cjc (Click for

4311
02:55:32,238 --> 02:55:32,973
01274942-cu-po-cjc (Click for

4312
02:55:32,973 --> 02:55:33,640
scs4. County counsel-

4313
02:55:33,640 --> 02:55:34,408
conference with legal counsel-

4314
02:55:34,408 --> 02:55:35,141
existing litigation-

4315
02:55:35,141 --> 02:55:35,875
pursuant to government code

4316
02:55:35,875 --> 02:55:36,642
section 54956.9(D)(1):

4317
02:55:36,642 --> 02:55:37,343
name of case: bryan vig v.

4318
02:55:37,343 --> 02:55:39,579
County of orange et al., orange

4319
02:55:39,579 --> 02:55:40,346
county superior court case no. 30-2025-01475686-cu-pa-cjc

4320
02:55:40,346 --> 02:55:41,113
scs5. County counsel-

4321
02:55:41,113 --> 02:55:41,881
conference with legal counsel-

4322
02:55:41,881 --> 02:55:42,515
existing litigation-

4323
02:55:42,515 --> 02:55:43,349
pursuant to government code

4324
02:55:43,349 --> 02:55:44,149
section 54956.9(D)(1):

4325
02:55:44,149 --> 02:55:44,851
name of case: california

4326
02:55:44,851 --> 02:55:46,186
department of forestry and fire

4327
02:55:46,186 --> 02:55:48,822
protection v. County of orange, orange

4328
02:55:48,822 --> 02:55:50,423
county superior court case no. 30-2025-01508686-cu-mc-cxc

4329
02:55:50,423 --> 02:55:53,360
and we have three speakers

4330
02:55:53,360 --> 02:55:53,793
wishing to speak on the

4331
02:55:53,793 --> 02:55:54,995
closed-session items

4332
02:55:54,995 --> 02:55:56,563
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

4333
02:55:56,563 --> 02:55:59,432
right. First speaker in the

4334
02:55:59,432 --> 02:56:01,432
closed-session item. 1 minute,

4335
02:56:02,668 --> 02:56:03,369
please.

4336
02:56:03,369 --> 02:56:04,637
>>speaker: good morning, folks.

4337
02:56:04,637 --> 02:56:06,600
I know I only have a minute

4338
02:56:06,600 --> 02:56:08,208
here. I'm the union

4339
02:56:08,208 --> 02:56:10,208
representative for teamsters

4340
02:56:11,343 --> 02:56:12,945
local 952, o and m unit. Good

4341
02:56:12,945 --> 02:56:15,181
afternoon, board. We're asking

4342
02:56:15,181 --> 02:56:16,582
again please give

4343
02:56:16,582 --> 02:56:17,583
authorization -- we're getting

4344
02:56:17,583 --> 02:56:20,253
creative now. I'm happy to see,

4345
02:56:20,253 --> 02:56:21,200
that but get creative how to set

4346
02:56:21,200 --> 02:56:23,420
our union negotiations. We've

4347
02:56:23,656 --> 02:56:25,910
been told no at every corner

4348
02:56:25,910 --> 02:56:26,590
although we have agreed on some

4349
02:56:26,590 --> 02:56:27,494
articles, we're still so far

4350
02:56:27,494 --> 02:56:29,595
apart. Thank you for the board

4351
02:56:29,595 --> 02:56:31,130
members who have listened. We

4352
02:56:31,130 --> 02:56:32,132
need support from the whole

4353
02:56:32,132 --> 02:56:33,165
board on finding a way to

4354
02:56:33,165 --> 02:56:35,202
authorize wage increases. Like

4355
02:56:35,202 --> 02:56:36,403
I said last time, I'm open to

4356
02:56:36,403 --> 02:56:38,204
meet with any and all board

4357
02:56:38,204 --> 02:56:39,740
members and to avoid a labor

4358
02:56:39,740 --> 02:56:41,942
dispute. We cannot burn time

4359
02:56:41,942 --> 02:56:42,943
and go months and months past

4360
02:56:42,943 --> 02:56:44,944
the end of our contract like the

4361
02:56:44,944 --> 02:56:46,913
last cycle unless -- unless

4362
02:56:46,913 --> 02:56:48,414
there's a retroactive pay in the

4363
02:56:48,414 --> 02:56:50,951
talks. I'm not going to hold my

4364
02:56:50,951 --> 02:56:52,685
breath on that. But let's get

4365
02:56:52,685 --> 02:56:54,287
creative right. Thank you to

4366
02:56:54,287 --> 02:56:55,788
this and let's settle our

4367
02:56:55,788 --> 02:56:57,924
negotiations. You know, we want

4368
02:56:57,924 --> 02:56:59,326
to keep servicing our county

4369
02:56:59,326 --> 02:57:00,527
here, and again, we don't want

4370
02:57:00,527 --> 02:57:02,863
to have a labor dispute. Let's

4371
02:57:02,863 --> 02:57:04,197
get some wage increases on the

4372
02:57:04,197 --> 02:57:04,765
table. Thank you.

4373
02:57:04,765 --> 02:57:07,165
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

4374
02:57:14,741 --> 02:57:16,477
you, sir. Next speaker please.

4375
02:57:16,477 --> 02:57:18,120
>>speaker: good morning. My

4376
02:57:18,120 --> 02:57:19,679
name is fabian lopez and I'm

4377
02:57:19,679 --> 02:57:20,848
currently serving as a fleet

4378
02:57:20,848 --> 02:57:23,183
technician with the orange

4379
02:57:23,183 --> 02:57:24,685
county public works. As a unit

4380
02:57:24,685 --> 02:57:25,285
steward appointed to the

4381
02:57:25,285 --> 02:57:26,987
negotiations committee, it's

4382
02:57:26,987 --> 02:57:28,522
clear to me that all of you have

4383
02:57:28,522 --> 02:57:30,240
lost touch with the reality of

4384
02:57:30,240 --> 02:57:31,959
the times that we're living in.

4385
02:57:31,959 --> 02:57:33,260
Throughout the 16 gork meetings

4386
02:57:33,260 --> 02:57:34,595
that we've had, we've been met

4387
02:57:34,595 --> 02:57:35,496
with nothing but offensive

4388
02:57:35,496 --> 02:57:36,630
proposals and threats and

4389
02:57:36,630 --> 02:57:38,980
resulting in very little

4390
02:57:38,980 --> 02:57:40,134
progress. We're tired, we're

4391
02:57:40,134 --> 02:57:41,134
tired of our hard-earned tack

4392
02:57:41,134 --> 02:57:42,536
dollars going to the wrong

4393
02:57:42,536 --> 02:57:44,710
places. I'm here today to

4394
02:57:44,710 --> 02:57:46,373
remind that you we are all

4395
02:57:46,373 --> 02:57:48,508
public servants, and the public

4396
02:57:48,508 --> 02:57:49,943
deserve what is they pay for in

4397
02:57:49,943 --> 02:57:51,745
taxes, a fair contract and wage

4398
02:57:51,745 --> 02:57:52,813
proposal to all county employees

4399
02:57:52,813 --> 02:57:54,580
would ensure public services

4400
02:57:54,580 --> 02:57:54,815
would not be disrupted. Thank

4401
02:57:54,815 --> 02:57:56,815
you.

4402
02:57:57,384 --> 02:58:00,384
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

4403
02:58:03,624 --> 02:58:04,591
you.

4404
02:58:04,591 --> 02:58:06,591
>>speaker: good afternoon,

4405
02:58:06,893 --> 02:58:08,562
members of the board be my name

4406
02:58:08,562 --> 02:58:09,596
is betty lopez. I worked for

4407
02:58:09,596 --> 02:58:11,197
the county of orange for the

4408
02:58:11,197 --> 02:58:12,933
last 18 years, and I have --

4409
02:58:12,933 --> 02:58:14,667
this is my third time

4410
02:58:14,667 --> 02:58:16,103
negotiating a contract with the

4411
02:58:16,103 --> 02:58:20,303
county. I just want you guys to

4412
02:58:20,840 --> 02:58:24,177
know that we work really hard.

4413
02:58:24,177 --> 02:58:25,279
We -- we work hard, we're here

4414
02:58:25,279 --> 02:58:26,880
every day. When the county shut

4415
02:58:26,880 --> 02:58:30,480
down, we stayed for covid. We

4416
02:58:32,151 --> 02:58:35,151
work every day. Every single

4417
02:58:35,188 --> 02:58:36,189
day, the essential members that

4418
02:58:36,189 --> 02:58:37,724
represent -- that we represent

4419
02:58:37,724 --> 02:58:39,225
are doing the invisible heavy

4420
02:58:39,225 --> 02:58:40,994
lifting for this county. When

4421
02:58:40,994 --> 02:58:42,896
you visit our sites, we're the

4422
02:58:42,896 --> 02:58:44,698
ones that take care of those

4423
02:58:44,698 --> 02:58:46,366
animals. I work for the animal

4424
02:58:46,366 --> 02:58:48,350
shelter. We take care of those

4425
02:58:48,350 --> 02:58:49,969
animals. We get things ready

4426
02:58:49,969 --> 02:58:51,539
for you guys to come in to take

4427
02:58:51,539 --> 02:58:53,730
your pictures for your photo

4428
02:58:53,730 --> 02:58:55,276
ops, and I just want you guys to

4429
02:58:55,276 --> 02:58:56,710
know we see you, and I just

4430
02:58:56,710 --> 02:59:00,910
really hope you see us when we

4431
02:59:02,249 --> 02:59:03,150
come in asking for wages, it's

4432
02:59:03,150 --> 02:59:06,870
not because we are asking for an

4433
02:59:06,870 --> 02:59:06,821
allowance. We work really hard.

4434
02:59:06,821 --> 02:59:06,999
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

4435
02:59:06,999 --> 02:59:08,222
you.

4436
02:59:08,222 --> 02:59:09,557
>>clerk, robin stieler: no

4437
02:59:09,557 --> 02:59:10,558
further speakers, MR. CHAIRMAN

4438
02:59:10,558 --> 02:59:12,760
>>chair, doug chaffee: with

4439
02:59:12,760 --> 02:59:16,360
that, we are adjourned to closed

4440
02:59:22,737 --> 02:59:24,737
session.

4441
03:04:24,921 --> 03:04:26,921
[Closed session]

4442
03:04:28,240 --> 03:04:29,591
>>speaker: okay. We're back in

4443
03:04:29,591 --> 03:04:31,361
session, county counsel, do you

4444
03:04:31,361 --> 03:04:33,761
have anything to report

4445
03:04:35,632 --> 03:04:37,334
>>leon page: pursuant to gofs.6

4446
03:04:37,334 --> 03:04:38,868
and 9 the board met in closed

4447
03:04:38,868 --> 03:04:41,868
session to discuss the items

4448
03:04:42,405 --> 03:04:44,805
referenced on today's agenda

4449
03:04:45,441 --> 03:04:47,441
scs1, 2, 3, 4, 5, with respect

4450
03:04:47,777 --> 03:04:48,678
to csc1, the board took no

4451
03:04:48,678 --> 03:04:51,780
reportable action. With respect

4452
03:04:51,714 --> 03:04:52,649
to scs2 the board unanimously

4453
03:04:52,649 --> 03:04:54,384
approved settlement of the

4454
03:04:54,384 --> 03:04:56,286
various claims filed by members

4455
03:04:56,286 --> 03:04:59,322
of the public for losses and

4456
03:04:59,322 --> 03:05:00,556
damages incurred as a result of

4457
03:05:00,556 --> 03:05:02,956
the SEPTEMBER 2024 airport fire.

4458
03:05:03,580 --> 03:05:05,458
The board unanimously approved

4459
03:05:07,630 --> 03:05:10,630
a $2 million settlement for the

4460
03:05:10,799 --> 03:05:13,799
pagano, par ada -- households

4461
03:05:14,870 --> 03:05:16,439
the board unanimously approved a

4462
03:05:16,439 --> 03:05:18,439
3.5 million global settlement

4463
03:05:18,775 --> 03:05:21,811
for the gors key household the

4464
03:05:21,811 --> 03:05:24,211
board unanimously approved a

4465
03:05:24,747 --> 03:05:26,483
$1.5 million global settlement

4466
03:05:26,483 --> 03:05:29,185
and for the morrison household,

4467
03:05:29,185 --> 03:05:30,920
the board unanimously approved

4468
03:05:30,920 --> 03:05:32,920
$2.5 million global settlement

4469
03:05:32,955 --> 03:05:34,723
of the settlements approved

4470
03:05:34,723 --> 03:05:36,458
today remains subject to any

4471
03:05:36,458 --> 03:05:38,858
person who inquires. With

4472
03:05:39,929 --> 03:05:42,498
respect to scs3 in the matter of

4473
03:05:42,498 --> 03:05:45,201
3g in the matter much gc versus

4474
03:05:45,201 --> 03:05:46,403
county of orange. This case

4475
03:05:46,403 --> 03:05:47,837
involved an alleged sexual abuse

4476
03:05:47,837 --> 03:05:49,171
by the plaintiff by her foster

4477
03:05:49,171 --> 03:05:50,873
parent and foster brother in the

4478
03:05:50,873 --> 03:05:52,208
early 1980s. An alleged

4479
03:05:52,208 --> 03:05:53,276
failure on the par the county

4480
03:05:53,276 --> 03:05:54,644
the social services agency to

4481
03:05:54,644 --> 03:05:56,644
investigate the plaintiff's

4482
03:05:57,790 --> 03:05:58,481
complaints. That settlement is

4483
03:05:58,481 --> 03:05:59,582
subject to the final approval of

4484
03:05:59,582 --> 03:06:01,151
others and when that settlement

4485
03:06:01,151 --> 03:06:01,818
agreement is finalized copies of

4486
03:06:01,818 --> 03:06:03,860
the agreement will be made

4487
03:06:03,860 --> 03:06:04,655
available through the office of

4488
03:06:04,655 --> 03:06:06,289
ceo risk management to any

4489
03:06:06,289 --> 03:06:09,289
person who inquires with respect

4490
03:06:09,326 --> 03:06:10,527
to scs4, the matter of brian vig

4491
03:06:10,527 --> 03:06:12,262
versus county of orange the

4492
03:06:12,262 --> 03:06:14,662
board unanimously approved a

4493
03:06:17,601 --> 03:06:19,601
settlement of 88, 992.51, in

4494
03:06:20,637 --> 03:06:22,239
this 2024 motor vehicle accident

4495
03:06:22,239 --> 03:06:23,139
case that resulted from a

4496
03:06:23,139 --> 03:06:24,408
collision with an orange county

4497
03:06:24,408 --> 03:06:26,430
sheriff's department vehicle in

4498
03:06:26,430 --> 03:06:26,977
lake forest. The settlement

4499
03:06:26,977 --> 03:06:29,112
approved today remains subject

4500
03:06:29,112 --> 03:06:29,880
to the final approval of others

4501
03:06:29,880 --> 03:06:32,280
and when that settlement

4502
03:06:32,315 --> 03:06:33,830
agreement is finalized, copies

4503
03:06:33,830 --> 03:06:35,352
of the agreement will be made to

4504
03:06:35,352 --> 03:06:37,120
anyone who inquires. With

4505
03:06:37,120 --> 03:06:38,355
respect to scs5, the board in

4506
03:06:38,355 --> 03:06:39,956
the matter of california

4507
03:06:39,956 --> 03:06:42,125
department of forestry versus

4508
03:06:42,125 --> 03:06:44,525
county of orange, unanimously

4509
03:06:46,896 --> 03:06:48,832
approved the $6,950,000

4510
03:06:48,832 --> 03:06:51,232
mediator's proposal to settle

4511
03:06:52,135 --> 03:06:55,500
and resolve the lawsuit filed by

4512
03:06:55,500 --> 03:06:56,739
cal fire against the county to

4513
03:06:56,739 --> 03:06:59,760
recover cost incurred fighting

4514
03:06:59,760 --> 03:07:00,644
the SEPTEMBER 2024 airport fire.

4515
03:07:00,644 --> 03:07:01,578
Copies will be made available

4516
03:07:01,578 --> 03:07:03,747
to any person who inquires.

4517
03:07:03,747 --> 03:07:07,347
With respect to the claims of

4518
03:07:08,385 --> 03:07:11,385
alan lp bumpkins, angela bend

4519
03:07:12,955 --> 03:07:14,957
zoo brown, degrade da, fontes,

4520
03:07:14,957 --> 03:07:17,957
the inner circle foster family,

4521
03:07:19,128 --> 03:07:22,128
james crest, lucas mark mia,

4522
03:07:22,666 --> 03:07:24,901
mig, morris, mueller, page, no

4523
03:07:24,901 --> 03:07:26,839
relation to me, ram mire reds,

4524
03:07:26,839 --> 03:07:29,380
sure, silva, slate, thurston,

4525
03:07:29,380 --> 03:07:30,606
valentine, vasquez, via,

4526
03:07:30,606 --> 03:07:32,809
williams and willsie which was

4527
03:07:32,809 --> 03:07:34,477
considered by the board on

4528
03:07:34,477 --> 03:07:36,546
JUNE 9th 2026 as scs8 the

4529
03:07:36,546 --> 03:07:38,348
board unanimously approved a

4530
03:07:38,348 --> 03:07:41,348
global settlement in the amount

4531
03:07:48,920 --> 03:07:49,694
of 7,752,596.45. The

4532
03:07:49,694 --> 03:07:50,527
settlements all will remain

4533
03:07:50,527 --> 03:07:54,640
subject to the final approval of

4534
03:07:54,640 --> 03:07:54,565
others and when settlements are

4535
03:07:54,565 --> 03:07:55,232
finalized copies of the

4536
03:07:55,232 --> 03:07:57,935
agreement will be made available

4537
03:07:57,935 --> 03:07:59,436
to any person who inquires.

4538
03:07:59,436 --> 03:08:01,172
That's it, MR. CHAIRMAN. The

4539
03:08:01,172 --> 03:08:02,840
board took no other reportable

4540
03:08:02,840 --> 03:08:03,474
action in closed session today.

4541
03:08:03,474 --> 03:08:04,508
>>chair, doug chaffee: that was

4542
03:08:04,508 --> 03:08:07,144
quite a bit of reportable

4543
03:08:07,144 --> 03:08:09,544
action. Thank you, county

4544
03:08:10,280 --> 03:08:13,280
council. Is. We moved the

4545
03:08:15,386 --> 03:08:18,986
budget item ahead. We come back

4546
03:08:29,500 --> 03:08:30,266
toes item 35.

4547
03:08:30,266 --> 03:08:31,350
>>clerk, robin stieler: 35.

4548
03:08:31,350 --> 03:08:31,434
Supervisor sarmiento-consider

4549
03:08:31,434 --> 03:08:31,735
first reading of "

4550
03:08:31,735 --> 03:08:32,436
an ordinance

4551
03:08:32,436 --> 03:08:33,137
of the county of orange,

4552
03:08:33,137 --> 03:08:33,903
california, amending section

4553
03:08:33,903 --> 03:08:34,704
1-1-80, subsection (H) And

4554
03:08:34,704 --> 03:08:35,472
adding section 1-1-81,

4555
03:08:35,472 --> 03:08:36,674
subsections (E) Through (I) To

4556
03:08:36,674 --> 03:08:37,675
the codified ordinances of the

4557
03:08:37,675 --> 03:08:38,509
county of orange regarding

4558
03:08:38,509 --> 03:08:38,775
lobbyist registration and

4559
03:08:38,775 --> 03:08:39,276
reporting"

4560
03:08:39,276 --> 03:08:39,909
; and set second

4561
03:08:39,909 --> 03:08:42,309
reading and adoption for

4562
03:08:42,713 --> 03:08:44,180
8/11/26, 9:30 A.M.

4563
03:08:44,180 --> 03:08:45,749
We have no requests to speak on

4564
03:08:45,749 --> 03:08:46,649
agenda item 35..

4565
03:08:46,649 --> 03:08:49,486
>>chair, doug chaffee: do we

4566
03:08:49,486 --> 03:08:49,786
have any -- we didn't have any

4567
03:08:49,786 --> 03:08:50,453
commenters?

4568
03:08:50,453 --> 03:08:50,687
>>clerk, robin stieler: no, we

4569
03:08:50,687 --> 03:08:51,254
do not.

4570
03:08:51,254 --> 03:08:53,654
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

4571
03:08:53,924 --> 03:08:56,924
right. This is a lobbyist

4572
03:08:57,260 --> 03:08:58,795
recording type of proposal.

4573
03:08:58,795 --> 03:09:01,264
Many other counties already have

4574
03:09:01,264 --> 03:09:02,499
this, we do not. It kind of

4575
03:09:02,499 --> 03:09:04,101
closes the gap in some weird

4576
03:09:04,101 --> 03:09:06,437
ways. And I appreciate

4577
03:09:06,437 --> 03:09:08,837
supervisor sarmiento joining in

4578
03:09:09,339 --> 03:09:11,708
on this. I'm going to move the

4579
03:09:11,708 --> 03:09:13,843
item. If there are comments --

4580
03:09:13,843 --> 03:09:16,843
moved and second by supervisor

4581
03:09:17,147 --> 03:09:17,982
sarmiento, comment from

4582
03:09:17,982 --> 03:09:18,615
vice-chair foley.

4583
03:09:18,615 --> 03:09:19,383
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

4584
03:09:19,383 --> 03:09:21,118
you. Thank you for bringing

4585
03:09:21,118 --> 03:09:22,319
this item forward. I strongly

4586
03:09:22,319 --> 03:09:24,522
support this item. I do think

4587
03:09:24,522 --> 03:09:25,556
more disclosure to the public is

4588
03:09:25,556 --> 03:09:27,958
important, and I think you know

4589
03:09:27,958 --> 03:09:29,359
you're doing something right

4590
03:09:29,359 --> 03:09:30,361
when shirley grendle sends you

4591
03:09:30,361 --> 03:09:33,498
an email of support. So thank

4592
03:09:33,498 --> 03:09:34,980
you for bringing this forward.

4593
03:09:34,980 --> 03:09:34,832
>>chair, doug chaffee:

4594
03:09:34,832 --> 03:09:35,599
supervisor sarmiento, any

4595
03:09:35,599 --> 03:09:36,434
further comments

4596
03:09:36,434 --> 03:09:38,804
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

4597
03:09:38,804 --> 03:09:40,380
MR. Chair. I know, it's hard to

4598
03:09:40,380 --> 03:09:41,405
get praise from shirley, but

4599
03:09:41,405 --> 03:09:43,174
it's always nice when it comes

4600
03:09:43,174 --> 03:09:43,940
in. Thank you, MR. Chair, and

4601
03:09:43,940 --> 03:09:45,242
obviously this is something

4602
03:09:45,242 --> 03:09:48,679
that's been worked on for the

4603
03:09:48,679 --> 03:09:50,470
past couple of years. It's a

4604
03:09:50,470 --> 03:09:51,480
subtle step but an important

4605
03:09:51,480 --> 03:09:54,480
one. This extends and expands

4606
03:09:54,218 --> 03:09:55,486
the rules to include discussions

4607
03:09:55,486 --> 03:09:57,886
with department heads, though,

4608
03:09:58,656 --> 03:10:00,791
it's basically just modifying

4609
03:10:00,791 --> 03:10:02,426
the definition of advocacy and

4610
03:10:02,426 --> 03:10:03,961
lobbying. So I just want to be

4611
03:10:03,961 --> 03:10:06,197
clear, one of the things I want

4612
03:10:06,197 --> 03:10:07,831
to make sure is on the record

4613
03:10:07,831 --> 03:10:09,800
that this no way interferes with

4614
03:10:09,800 --> 03:10:10,400
the rights of others that, you

4615
03:10:10,400 --> 03:10:12,336
know, organizations that come

4616
03:10:12,336 --> 03:10:13,738
before the board and educate

4617
03:10:13,738 --> 03:10:16,738
officials or present their case

4618
03:10:18,750 --> 03:10:19,376
on the issues. It provides more

4619
03:10:19,376 --> 03:10:20,711
sunshine regarding efforts to

4620
03:10:20,711 --> 03:10:22,313
influence by entities hired to

4621
03:10:22,313 --> 03:10:23,847
lobby, not people just simply

4622
03:10:23,847 --> 03:10:26,490
wanting to, you know, discuss

4623
03:10:26,490 --> 03:10:28,285
issues that MAY affect their

4624
03:10:28,285 --> 03:10:29,286
neighborhood, MAY affect

4625
03:10:29,286 --> 03:10:30,621
their -- you know, local

4626
03:10:30,621 --> 03:10:32,123
communities. But we want to

4627
03:10:32,123 --> 03:10:35,158
make sure that that continues to

4628
03:10:35,158 --> 03:10:36,693
be something that we encourage.

4629
03:10:36,693 --> 03:10:38,996
I think to have more exchange

4630
03:10:38,996 --> 03:10:41,396
with residents, more exchange

4631
03:10:42,330 --> 03:10:43,533
with stakeholders is important.

4632
03:10:43,533 --> 03:10:44,669
So, thank you, MR. Chair. I

4633
03:10:44,669 --> 03:10:47,371
think this is an important step

4634
03:10:47,371 --> 03:10:48,390
in the role of the ethics

4635
03:10:48,390 --> 03:10:49,707
commission to provide additional

4636
03:10:49,707 --> 03:10:51,141
review and guidance to the

4637
03:10:51,141 --> 03:10:53,430
lobbying and advocacy community,

4638
03:10:53,430 --> 03:10:54,378
and it strengthens the role of

4639
03:10:54,378 --> 03:10:55,946
the commission as well. With

4640
03:10:55,946 --> 03:10:57,447
that, happy to second it

4641
03:10:57,447 --> 03:10:59,818
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

4642
03:10:59,818 --> 03:11:03,418
for joining. I would note one

4643
03:11:04,454 --> 03:11:05,889
important change, lobbying not

4644
03:11:05,889 --> 03:11:08,910
only of the members of the

4645
03:11:08,910 --> 03:11:10,728
board, but you MAY engage in

4646
03:11:10,728 --> 03:11:11,629
lobbying with, let's say, an

4647
03:11:11,629 --> 03:11:13,665
example, department heads. That

4648
03:11:13,665 --> 03:11:15,967
counts too. So reporting is

4649
03:11:15,967 --> 03:11:18,803
another step in transparency for

4650
03:11:18,803 --> 03:11:20,572
us. And it's a step in what I

4651
03:11:20,572 --> 03:11:22,140
would call good government, as

4652
03:11:22,140 --> 03:11:25,760
we're trying to do. Been moved

4653
03:11:25,760 --> 03:11:26,478
and seconded. Any objection?

4654
03:11:26,478 --> 03:11:28,413
Seeing none, it has been

4655
03:11:28,413 --> 03:11:29,848
approved unanimously. Thank

4656
03:11:29,848 --> 03:11:31,950
you, colleagues. Go on to item

4657
03:11:31,950 --> 03:11:33,950
34, please.

4658
03:11:35,286 --> 03:11:36,687
>>clerk, robin stieler: 36.

4659
03:11:36,687 --> 03:11:38,990
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm

4660
03:11:38,990 --> 03:11:41,292
sorry. 36. Just did 34. All

4661
03:11:41,292 --> 03:11:41,926
right, 35.

4662
03:11:41,926 --> 03:11:42,627
>>clerk, robin stieler: 36.

4663
03:11:42,627 --> 03:11:43,260
Under supervisor wagner-

4664
03:11:43,260 --> 03:11:43,762
approve allocation of $240,000

4665
03:11:43,762 --> 03:11:44,262
from the third district'

4666
03:11:44,262 --> 03:11:45,463
s fy

4667
03:11:45,463 --> 03:11:46,664
25/26 office budget, budget

4668
03:11:46,664 --> 03:11:46,898
control 008 to orange county

4669
03:11:46,898 --> 03:11:48,265
sheriff'

4670
03:11:48,265 --> 03:11:50,265
s department for

4671
03:11:51,269 --> 03:11:52,970
purchase and installation

4672
03:11:52,970 --> 03:11:54,939
of new body scanner at intake

4673
03:11:54,939 --> 03:11:55,874
release center; make related

4674
03:11:55,874 --> 03:11:57,375
findings under government code

4675
03:11:57,375 --> 03:11:58,777
section 26227; and authorize

4676
03:11:58,777 --> 03:12:00,777
auditor-controller or designee

4677
03:12:01,780 --> 03:12:03,647
to make related payments

4678
03:12:03,647 --> 03:12:05,116
we have no requests to speak on

4679
03:12:05,116 --> 03:12:05,917
agenda item 36..

4680
03:12:05,917 --> 03:12:07,917
>>chair, doug chaffee:

4681
03:12:07,919 --> 03:12:08,970
supervisor wagner, this is your

4682
03:12:08,970 --> 03:12:08,686
item

4683
03:12:08,686 --> 03:12:11,255
>>don wagner: yes. Thank you

4684
03:12:11,255 --> 03:12:13,592
very much, MR. CHAIRMAN. Real

4685
03:12:13,592 --> 03:12:14,893
briefly, out of the office

4686
03:12:14,893 --> 03:12:17,127
budget, not discretionary, this

4687
03:12:17,127 --> 03:12:18,929
goes to the sheriff's department

4688
03:12:18,929 --> 03:12:21,165
for the body scanner, the intake

4689
03:12:21,165 --> 03:12:23,300
center, and we've all been

4690
03:12:23,300 --> 03:12:24,680
seeing reports with respect to

4691
03:12:24,680 --> 03:12:25,670
inmate deaths and how many of

4692
03:12:25,670 --> 03:12:27,338
them are in the first few days

4693
03:12:27,338 --> 03:12:28,139
of custody and drugs getting

4694
03:12:28,139 --> 03:12:32,339
into the jails. This is a state

4695
03:12:36,414 --> 03:12:37,949
of the art opportunity to give

4696
03:12:37,949 --> 03:12:39,584
our shares an opportunity to

4697
03:12:39,584 --> 03:12:41,520
interdict those drugs before

4698
03:12:41,520 --> 03:12:42,687
they get into the population.

4699
03:12:42,687 --> 03:12:43,954
So it's for the health and

4700
03:12:43,954 --> 03:12:45,723
safety of the inmates. The

4701
03:12:45,723 --> 03:12:47,324
health and safety of the

4702
03:12:47,324 --> 03:12:48,660
deputies, and I appreciate the

4703
03:12:48,660 --> 03:12:50,361
sheriff in working with me on

4704
03:12:50,361 --> 03:12:51,929
this to make this one happen.

4705
03:12:51,929 --> 03:12:53,531
If there are any questions, I'm

4706
03:12:53,531 --> 03:12:54,331
happy to take them, otherwise, I

4707
03:12:54,331 --> 03:12:55,734
move for approval.

4708
03:12:55,734 --> 03:12:55,934
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

4709
03:12:55,934 --> 03:12:57,350
second

4710
03:12:57,350 --> 03:12:59,470
>>chair, doug chaffee: I agree.

4711
03:12:59,470 --> 03:12:59,647
Anyone object to this item?

4712
03:12:59,647 --> 03:13:00,371
.

4713
03:13:00,371 --> 03:13:00,572
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: great

4714
03:13:00,572 --> 03:13:01,172
item.

4715
03:13:01,172 --> 03:13:03,308
>>chair, doug chaffee: seeing

4716
03:13:03,308 --> 03:13:05,100
none. Looks like it's niang

4717
03:13:05,100 --> 03:13:08,100
muss. Thank you for bringing

4718
03:13:08,480 --> 03:13:09,247
that forward. Item 37, please.

4719
03:13:09,247 --> 03:13:10,810
>>clerk, robin stieler: 37.

4720
03:13:10,810 --> 03:13:10,849
Under auditor-controller-

4721
03:13:10,849 --> 03:13:11,750
acting as board of supervisors

4722
03:13:11,750 --> 03:13:12,517
and orange county housing

4723
03:13:12,517 --> 03:13:13,251
authority-adopt resolution

4724
03:13:13,251 --> 03:13:13,986
authorizing temporary transfer

4725
03:13:13,986 --> 03:13:16,955
of cash between various funds

4726
03:13:16,955 --> 03:13:18,724
for fy 2026-27

4727
03:13:18,724 --> 03:13:20,580
we have no requests to speak on

4728
03:13:20,580 --> 03:13:20,692
agenda item 37

4729
03:13:20,692 --> 03:13:23,692
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

4730
03:13:23,929 --> 03:13:24,730
all-district item. Moved and

4731
03:13:24,730 --> 03:13:27,130
seconded. Any objection? Item

4732
03:13:32,404 --> 03:13:34,804
is approved. 39, please. --

4733
03:13:35,400 --> 03:13:35,640
38, I'm sorry.

4734
03:13:35,640 --> 03:13:36,275
>>clerk, robin stieler: 38.

4735
03:13:36,275 --> 03:13:37,750
Under district attorney-

4736
03:13:37,750 --> 03:13:37,809
approve model contract

4737
03:13:37,809 --> 03:13:38,577
ma-026-26010077 for victim

4738
03:13:38,577 --> 03:13:39,244
witness assistance program

4739
03:13:39,244 --> 03:13:39,911
services, 7/1/26-6/30/29

4740
03:13:39,911 --> 03:13:40,445
($20,357,748); renewable for two

4741
03:13:40,445 --> 03:13:40,946
additional one-year terms;

4742
03:13:40,946 --> 03:13:41,546
select respondent from

4743
03:13:41,546 --> 03:13:42,113
solicitation ranking results

4744
03:13:42,113 --> 03:13:42,781
list; and authorize county

4745
03:13:42,781 --> 03:13:43,348
procurement officer or deputized

4746
03:13:43,348 --> 03:13:44,150
designee to negotiate and

4747
03:13:44,150 --> 03:13:44,850
execute contract and make future

4748
03:13:44,850 --> 03:13:46,885
amendments under certain conditions

4749
03:13:46,885 --> 03:13:47,112
and we have no requests to

4750
03:13:47,112 --> 03:13:47,885
speak.

4751
03:13:47,885 --> 03:13:49,287
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is

4752
03:13:49,287 --> 03:13:49,921
an all-district item.

4753
03:13:49,921 --> 03:13:50,188
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

4754
03:13:50,188 --> 03:13:50,988
the item.

4755
03:13:50,988 --> 03:13:51,989
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

4756
03:13:51,989 --> 03:13:53,124
seconded. Any objection?

4757
03:13:53,124 --> 03:13:54,726
Seeing none --

4758
03:13:54,726 --> 03:13:56,161
>>clerk, robin stieler:

4759
03:13:56,161 --> 03:13:57,563
MR. Chair this requires a

4760
03:13:57,563 --> 03:14:00,198
respondent is selected from the

4761
03:14:00,198 --> 03:14:00,398
solicitation ranking results

4762
03:14:00,398 --> 03:14:01,466
list.

4763
03:14:01,466 --> 03:14:03,735
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I met

4764
03:14:03,735 --> 03:14:04,869
to do that, move waymakers as

4765
03:14:04,869 --> 03:14:06,869
the selected respondent..

4766
03:14:07,873 --> 03:14:09,775
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

4767
03:14:09,775 --> 03:14:12,310
This new stuff kind of slows

4768
03:14:12,310 --> 03:14:13,444
us -- gets us mixed up, and I'm

4769
03:14:13,444 --> 03:14:16,148
mixed up anyway to start with.

4770
03:14:16,148 --> 03:14:17,583
All right. So no objection,

4771
03:14:17,583 --> 03:14:20,583
it's been moved and seconded.

4772
03:14:20,618 --> 03:14:22,870
And we've chosen waymakers.

4773
03:14:22,870 --> 03:14:22,755
Item is approved. Now we go to

4774
03:14:22,755 --> 03:14:23,488
39.

4775
03:14:23,488 --> 03:14:24,188
>>clerk, robin stieler: 39.

4776
03:14:24,188 --> 03:14:25,230
Under district attorney-

4777
03:14:25,230 --> 03:14:25,991
approve contract ma-026-26011343

4778
03:14:25,991 --> 03:14:27,292
with hewlett packard enterprise

4779
03:14:27,292 --> 03:14:28,427
company for hewlett packard

4780
03:14:28,427 --> 03:14:29,461
enterprise support service,

4781
03:14:29,461 --> 03:14:30,361
7/1/26-6/30/28 ($1,741,703);

4782
03:14:30,361 --> 03:14:31,290
and authorize county procurement

4783
03:14:31,290 --> 03:14:33,131
officer or deputized designee to

4784
03:14:33,131 --> 03:14:35,131
execute contract

4785
03:14:35,200 --> 03:14:37,703
we have no requests to speak on

4786
03:14:37,703 --> 03:14:38,636
agenda item 39..

4787
03:14:38,636 --> 03:14:40,739
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

4788
03:14:40,739 --> 03:14:42,700
all-district item..

4789
03:14:42,700 --> 03:14:43,676
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

4790
03:14:43,676 --> 03:14:45,144
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'll move sc

4791
03:14:45,144 --> 03:14:47,544
andersen group international as

4792
03:14:47,746 --> 03:14:50,160
the primary and pdr solution as

4793
03:14:50,160 --> 03:14:50,950
the alternate..

4794
03:14:50,950 --> 03:14:53,118
>>chair, doug chaffee: been

4795
03:14:53,118 --> 03:14:55,518
moved and seconded. Any

4796
03:14:56,156 --> 03:14:56,389
objection? Go ahead, supervisor

4797
03:14:56,389 --> 03:14:57,690
wagner?

4798
03:14:57,690 --> 03:14:59,791
>>don wagner: unless I'm reading

4799
03:14:59,791 --> 03:15:00,792
this wrong, you're on item 40.

4800
03:15:00,792 --> 03:15:02,792
This is 39..

4801
03:15:02,828 --> 03:15:05,828
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: oh,

4802
03:15:06,264 --> 03:15:08,266
my bad. Sorry. You're right

4803
03:15:08,266 --> 03:15:08,534
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is

4804
03:15:08,534 --> 03:15:10,136
packard.

4805
03:15:10,136 --> 03:15:10,336
>>don wagner: I'll move the

4806
03:15:10,336 --> 03:15:11,436
item.

4807
03:15:11,436 --> 03:15:12,303
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

4808
03:15:12,303 --> 03:15:13,104
disease. Okay.

4809
03:15:13,104 --> 03:15:13,339
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

4810
03:15:13,339 --> 03:15:14,240
second.

4811
03:15:14,240 --> 03:15:15,941
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

4812
03:15:15,941 --> 03:15:17,910
right, been moved and seconded.

4813
03:15:17,910 --> 03:15:20,613
We've got the right vendor now?

4814
03:15:20,613 --> 03:15:22,381
Okay. Any objection? Motion is

4815
03:15:22,381 --> 03:15:22,981
approved. We go to item 40

4816
03:15:22,981 --> 03:15:23,649
please.

4817
03:15:23,649 --> 03:15:24,315
>>clerk, robin stieler: 40.

4818
03:15:24,315 --> 03:15:25,150
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

4819
03:15:25,150 --> 03:15:25,784
model contract ma-060-26010737

4820
03:15:25,784 --> 03:15:26,451
for mold remediation services

4821
03:15:26,451 --> 03:15:27,219
6/24/26-6/23/29 ($900,000);

4822
03:15:27,219 --> 03:15:27,819
select and approve respondent

4823
03:15:27,819 --> 03:15:28,520
and alternate respondent from

4824
03:15:28,520 --> 03:15:29,187
solicitation ranking results

4825
03:15:29,187 --> 03:15:29,888
list and authorize county

4826
03:15:29,888 --> 03:15:30,589
procurement officer or deputized

4827
03:15:30,589 --> 03:15:32,989
designee to negotiate and

4828
03:15:39,970 --> 03:15:41,199
execute contract under certain conditions

4829
03:15:41,199 --> 03:15:42,901
and we have no requests to speak

4830
03:15:42,901 --> 03:15:44,336
on agenda item 40.

4831
03:15:44,336 --> 03:15:45,404
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: now

4832
03:15:45,404 --> 03:15:48,174
I'll move sc andersen group as

4833
03:15:48,174 --> 03:15:48,506
the primary and pdr solutions as

4834
03:15:48,506 --> 03:15:49,140
the alternate.

4835
03:15:49,140 --> 03:15:51,410
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is

4836
03:15:51,410 --> 03:15:54,145
an all-district item. Do we

4837
03:15:54,145 --> 03:15:57,283
need to select a vendor here

4838
03:15:57,283 --> 03:15:57,516
again? Yeah, we do. I have a

4839
03:15:57,516 --> 03:15:58,840
motion.

4840
03:15:58,840 --> 03:15:59,150
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

4841
03:15:59,150 --> 03:16:02,750
moved sc andersen group as the

4842
03:16:03,550 --> 03:16:03,321
primary and pdr solutions as the

4843
03:16:03,321 --> 03:16:03,855
alternate.

4844
03:16:03,855 --> 03:16:04,924
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

4845
03:16:04,924 --> 03:16:06,524
right. Moved and seconded. Any

4846
03:16:06,524 --> 03:16:09,524
objection? Seeing none, item is

4847
03:16:09,729 --> 03:16:10,328
approved. We now go to 41.

4848
03:16:10,328 --> 03:16:10,997
>>clerk, robin stieler: 41.

4849
03:16:10,997 --> 03:16:11,664
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

4850
03:16:11,664 --> 03:16:12,464
amendment 10 to contract

4851
03:16:12,464 --> 03:16:13,598
ma-060-18010732 with idemia

4852
03:16:13,598 --> 03:16:14,433
identity & security usa llc for

4853
03:16:14,433 --> 03:16:15,534
livescan/biometric capture

4854
03:16:15,534 --> 03:16:17,534
stations, equipment,

4855
03:16:17,636 --> 03:16:18,570
accessories, supplies,

4856
03:16:18,570 --> 03:16:19,338
software and maintenance,

4857
03:16:19,338 --> 03:16:20,710
8/22/26-8/21/27 ($450,646;

4858
03:16:20,710 --> 03:16:20,773
cumulative total $3,866,755);

4859
03:16:20,773 --> 03:16:21,440
and authorize county procurement

4860
03:16:21,440 --> 03:16:24,440
officer or deputized designee to

4861
03:16:25,778 --> 03:16:27,546
execute amendment

4862
03:16:27,546 --> 03:16:29,681
we have no requests to speak on

4863
03:16:29,681 --> 03:16:30,482
agenda item 41..

4864
03:16:30,482 --> 03:16:32,170
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's

4865
03:16:32,170 --> 03:16:33,552
again an all-district item.

4866
03:16:33,552 --> 03:16:33,820
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

4867
03:16:33,820 --> 03:16:34,854
the item.

4868
03:16:34,854 --> 03:16:36,556
>>chair, doug chaffee: we need

4869
03:16:36,556 --> 03:16:37,456
to pick a vendor here.

4870
03:16:37,456 --> 03:16:38,825
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: no

4871
03:16:38,825 --> 03:16:40,426
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

4872
03:16:40,426 --> 03:16:42,262
It's been moved and seconded.

4873
03:16:42,262 --> 03:16:43,529
Seeing no objection --

4874
03:16:43,529 --> 03:16:45,898
>>clerk, robin stieler: MAY I

4875
03:16:45,898 --> 03:16:46,132
clarify who's second on the

4876
03:16:46,132 --> 03:16:47,367
motion.

4877
03:16:47,367 --> 03:16:49,635
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

4878
03:16:49,635 --> 03:16:51,303
motioned, supervisor --

4879
03:16:51,303 --> 03:16:52,438
>>janet nguyen: and I seconded

4880
03:16:52,438 --> 03:16:52,618
>>clerk, robin stieler: thank

4881
03:16:52,618 --> 03:16:53,239
you.

4882
03:16:53,239 --> 03:16:55,675
>>chair, doug chaffee: now, if

4883
03:16:55,675 --> 03:16:59,275
we considering I'd like to take

4884
03:17:02,648 --> 03:17:04,150
items 42 through 57 as a group.

4885
03:17:04,150 --> 03:17:05,652
I think the approval or

4886
03:17:05,652 --> 03:17:07,987
consideration, say, by one

4887
03:17:07,987 --> 03:17:09,621
motion, these are all policing

4888
03:17:09,621 --> 03:17:10,823
contracts with the sheriff

4889
03:17:10,823 --> 03:17:11,724
>>clerk, robin stieler:

4890
03:17:11,724 --> 03:17:13,459
MR. CHAIRMAN, 48 is not one of

4891
03:17:13,459 --> 03:17:15,161
the law enforcement items. 48

4892
03:17:15,161 --> 03:17:15,828
is a five-year revenue agreement

4893
03:17:15,828 --> 03:17:17,828
for continuing education

4894
03:17:17,996 --> 03:17:20,996
classes. So it would be 42

4895
03:17:22,435 --> 03:17:23,669
through 47 and 49 through 57.

4896
03:17:23,669 --> 03:17:25,471
>>speaker: with that exception,

4897
03:17:25,471 --> 03:17:28,471
let's go ahead with that

4898
03:17:28,575 --> 03:17:29,308
grouping.

4899
03:17:29,308 --> 03:17:30,900
>>clerk, robin stieler: 42.

4900
03:17:30,900 --> 03:17:30,610
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

4901
03:17:30,610 --> 03:17:31,276
amendment 1 to contract with

4902
03:17:31,276 --> 03:17:34,876
city of villa park for law

4903
03:17:34,913 --> 03:17:35,514
enforcement services

4904
03:17:35,514 --> 03:17:36,182
($2,416,848) And special and

4905
03:17:36,182 --> 03:17:36,815
supplemental services

4906
03:17:36,815 --> 03:17:37,483
($259,500), 7/1/26-6/30/27;

4907
03:17:37,483 --> 03:17:38,116
and authorize sheriff-coroner or

4908
03:17:38,116 --> 03:17:39,551
designee to execute amendments

4909
03:17:39,551 --> 03:17:40,186
under certain conditions

4910
03:17:40,186 --> 03:17:40,854
>>clerk, robin stieler: 43.

4911
03:17:40,854 --> 03:17:41,520
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

4912
03:17:41,520 --> 03:17:42,154
contract with city of dana point

4913
03:17:42,154 --> 03:17:42,821
for law enforcement services,

4914
03:17:42,821 --> 03:17:43,488
7/1/26-6/30/27 ($15,904,903);

4915
03:17:43,488 --> 03:17:44,490
and authorize sheriff-coroner or

4916
03:17:44,490 --> 03:17:45,570
designee to execute amendments

4917
03:17:45,570 --> 03:17:46,125
under certain conditions-

4918
03:17:46,125 --> 03:17:46,726
district 5

4919
03:17:46,726 --> 03:17:47,393
>>clerk, robin stieler: 44.

4920
03:17:47,393 --> 03:17:47,993
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

4921
03:17:47,993 --> 03:17:48,561
contract with city of laguna

4922
03:17:48,561 --> 03:17:49,128
hills for law enforcement

4923
03:17:49,128 --> 03:17:49,728
services, 7/1/26-6/30/27

4924
03:17:49,728 --> 03:17:50,295
($12,112,857); and authorize

4925
03:17:50,295 --> 03:17:51,497
sheriff-coroner to execute

4926
03:17:51,497 --> 03:17:52,980
amendments under certain conditions

4927
03:17:52,980 --> 03:17:52,765
>>clerk, robin stieler: 45.

4928
03:17:52,765 --> 03:17:53,366
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

4929
03:17:53,366 --> 03:17:54,330
amendment 1 to contract with

4930
03:17:54,330 --> 03:17:54,700
city of san juan capistrano for

4931
03:17:54,700 --> 03:17:55,234
law enforcement services, 7/1/26

4932
03:17:55,234 --> 03:17:55,968
-6/30/27 ($14,310,630;

4933
03:17:55,968 --> 03:17:56,635
cumulative total $48,169,382);

4934
03:17:56,635 --> 03:17:57,270
and authorize sheriff-coroner or

4935
03:17:57,270 --> 03:17:58,171
designee to execute amendments

4936
03:17:58,171 --> 03:17:58,971
under certain conditions

4937
03:17:58,971 --> 03:18:00,390
>>clerk, robin stieler: 46.

4938
03:18:00,390 --> 03:18:02,390
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

4939
03:18:05,145 --> 03:18:07,146
contract with city of aliso

4940
03:18:07,146 --> 03:18:07,781
viejo for law enforcement

4941
03:18:07,781 --> 03:18:08,380
services, 7/1/26-6/30/27

4942
03:18:08,380 --> 03:18:09,140
($11,550,802); and authorize

4943
03:18:09,140 --> 03:18:09,516
sheriff-coroner or designee to

4944
03:18:09,516 --> 03:18:11,516
execute amendments under

4945
03:18:11,751 --> 03:18:12,352
certain conditions

4946
03:18:12,352 --> 03:18:13,180
>>clerk, robin stieler: 47.

4947
03:18:13,180 --> 03:18:13,619
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

4948
03:18:13,619 --> 03:18:14,220
amendment 1 to contract with

4949
03:18:14,220 --> 03:18:14,854
city of laguna niguel for law

4950
03:18:14,854 --> 03:18:15,421
enforcement services, 7/1/26-

4951
03:18:15,421 --> 03:18:16,210
6/30/27 ($19,920,619); and

4952
03:18:16,210 --> 03:18:16,656
authorize sheriff-coroner or

4953
03:18:16,656 --> 03:18:18,591
designee to execute amendments

4954
03:18:18,591 --> 03:18:20,126
under certain conditions-

4955
03:18:20,126 --> 03:18:21,160
and we have no requests to speak

4956
03:18:21,160 --> 03:18:23,160
on these items.

4957
03:18:24,697 --> 03:18:25,465
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

4958
03:18:25,465 --> 03:18:25,999
move the items.

4959
03:18:25,999 --> 03:18:27,100
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm

4960
03:18:27,100 --> 03:18:30,100
seeing no objection. The items

4961
03:18:30,337 --> 03:18:32,139
are approved. Now let's go to

4962
03:18:32,139 --> 03:18:32,872
48. District 5

4963
03:18:32,872 --> 03:18:33,540
>>clerk, robin stieler: 48.

4964
03:18:33,540 --> 03:18:34,207
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

4965
03:18:34,207 --> 03:18:34,841
five-year revenue agreement with

4966
03:18:34,841 --> 03:18:35,508
rancho santiago community

4967
03:18:35,508 --> 03:18:36,142
college district for continuing

4968
03:18:36,142 --> 03:18:36,743
education classes for inmates,

4969
03:18:36,743 --> 03:18:38,743
7/1/26-6/30/31 ($984,375)-

4970
03:18:39,212 --> 03:18:41,212
districts 2 and 3

4971
03:18:41,648 --> 03:18:42,315
and we have no requests to speak

4972
03:18:42,315 --> 03:18:42,983
on agenda item 48.

4973
03:18:42,983 --> 03:18:45,983
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

4974
03:18:46,190 --> 03:18:46,887
district 2 and district 3 item.

4975
03:18:46,887 --> 03:18:47,787
Moved and seconded. Any

4976
03:18:47,787 --> 03:18:50,187
objection? Seeing none, the

4977
03:18:51,358 --> 03:18:55,558
item is approved. Now we go to

4978
03:19:00,434 --> 03:19:01,535
item 58.

4979
03:19:01,535 --> 03:19:02,101
58. Sheriff-coroner-approve

4980
03:19:02,101 --> 03:19:02,703
amendment 1 to contract

4981
03:19:02,703 --> 03:19:03,269
ma-060-23011224 with crh

4982
03:19:03,269 --> 03:19:03,937
california water inc., dba

4983
03:19:03,937 --> 03:19:04,537
culligan of santa ana for water

4984
03:19:04,537 --> 03:19:05,138
softener services, 8/8/26-

4985
03:19:05,138 --> 03:19:05,806
8/7/27 ($430,800; cumulative

4986
03:19:05,806 --> 03:19:06,438
total $1,723,200), renewable for

4987
03:19:06,438 --> 03:19:07,107
one additional one-year term;

4988
03:19:07,107 --> 03:19:07,774
and authorize county procurement

4989
03:19:07,774 --> 03:19:09,743
officer or deputized designee to

4990
03:19:09,743 --> 03:19:11,444
execute amendment

4991
03:19:11,444 --> 03:19:13,579
>>speaker: a district 2 and 3

4992
03:19:13,579 --> 03:19:15,181
item. Moved and second. Any

4993
03:19:15,181 --> 03:19:17,581
objection? Item is approved.

4994
03:19:18,351 --> 03:19:18,951
59, please.

4995
03:19:18,951 --> 03:19:19,619
>>clerk, robin stieler: 59.

4996
03:19:19,619 --> 03:19:20,286
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

4997
03:19:20,286 --> 03:19:20,921
continuation of local emergency

4998
03:19:20,921 --> 03:19:21,487
for 2026 garden grove hazardous

4999
03:19:21,487 --> 03:19:22,121
material incident; and set

5000
03:19:22,121 --> 03:19:22,756
review to determine continuing

5001
03:19:22,756 --> 03:19:23,423
need for emergency action for

5002
03:19:23,423 --> 03:19:25,823
8/11/26, 9:30 A.M. And every 60

5003
03:19:29,930 --> 03:19:31,764
days thereafter

5004
03:19:31,764 --> 03:19:34,434
we have received one request to

5005
03:19:34,434 --> 03:19:35,335
speak on agenda item 59.

5006
03:19:35,335 --> 03:19:36,690
>>chair, doug chaffee: is an

5007
03:19:36,690 --> 03:19:37,504
all-district item

5008
03:19:37,504 --> 03:19:39,673
>>clerk, robin stieler: we

5009
03:19:39,673 --> 03:19:40,390
received one request to speak on

5010
03:19:40,390 --> 03:19:41,507
agenda item 59.

5011
03:19:41,507 --> 03:19:41,907
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

5012
03:19:41,907 --> 03:19:43,907
call that speaker

5013
03:19:44,878 --> 03:19:46,846
>>clerk, robin stieler: john

5014
03:19:46,846 --> 03:19:48,140
spring..

5015
03:19:48,140 --> 03:19:49,615
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm not

5016
03:19:49,615 --> 03:19:50,684
seeing -- is he here? Please

5017
03:19:50,684 --> 03:19:52,510
come forward..

5018
03:19:52,510 --> 03:19:55,651
>>chair, doug chaffee: I have a

5019
03:19:58,240 --> 03:19:58,592
slight hearing impairment.

5020
03:19:58,592 --> 03:20:01,592
MR. CHAIRMAN, members of the

5021
03:20:02,161 --> 03:20:05,161
board, I'm john walton spring.

5022
03:20:05,199 --> 03:20:08,799
I'm here first to honor my

5023
03:20:09,360 --> 03:20:11,380
father carl chaffee spring,

5024
03:20:11,380 --> 03:20:14,380
major U.S. Army chemical

5025
03:20:14,740 --> 03:20:17,674
warfare. He was born in garden

5026
03:20:21,148 --> 03:20:24,183
grove in 1899 and delivered by a

5027
03:20:24,183 --> 03:20:28,210
DR. John d chaffee, who was a

5028
03:20:28,210 --> 03:20:30,557
good friend of my grandfather

5029
03:20:30,557 --> 03:20:33,557
reverend louis spring of the

5030
03:20:34,262 --> 03:20:35,929
garden grove methodist episcopal

5031
03:20:35,929 --> 03:20:38,929
church. My primary reason for

5032
03:20:44,370 --> 03:20:47,370
being here is public safety.

5033
03:20:48,207 --> 03:20:52,407
Methyl cry late -- meth cry late

5034
03:20:52,680 --> 03:20:55,680
has a very similar molecular

5035
03:20:57,160 --> 03:20:58,685
structure as saran, which is a

5036
03:20:58,685 --> 03:20:59,253
nerve gas

5037
03:20:59,253 --> 03:21:01,653
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

5038
03:21:01,654 --> 03:21:03,322
you, sir. Your time is up.

5039
03:21:03,322 --> 03:21:04,900
>>speaker: and I guess I've run

5040
03:21:04,900 --> 03:21:04,724
out of time.

5041
03:21:04,724 --> 03:21:06,360
>>chair, doug chaffee: yes. You

5042
03:21:06,360 --> 03:21:08,270
have. Thank you, sir. This is

5043
03:21:08,270 --> 03:21:11,627
not on that topic. This is

5044
03:21:12,700 --> 03:21:14,000
actually a continuation of the

5045
03:21:14,000 --> 03:21:14,901
emergency moved and seconded.

5046
03:21:14,901 --> 03:21:17,301
Any objection? Seeing none,

5047
03:21:18,838 --> 03:21:20,406
item is approved. All right,

5048
03:21:20,406 --> 03:21:21,400
item 60.

5049
03:21:21,400 --> 03:21:21,741
>>clerk, robin stieler: 60.

5050
03:21:21,741 --> 03:21:22,375
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

5051
03:21:22,375 --> 03:21:22,976
retroactive payment to rancho

5052
03:21:22,976 --> 03:21:23,643
santiago community college

5053
03:21:23,643 --> 03:21:24,344
district for

5054
03:21:24,344 --> 03:21:26,744
tuition/registration fees for

5055
03:21:28,182 --> 03:21:30,116
criminal justice classes ($420,801)

5056
03:21:30,116 --> 03:21:31,185
We have no requests to speak on

5057
03:21:31,185 --> 03:21:32,552
agenda item 60..

5058
03:21:32,552 --> 03:21:35,723
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is a

5059
03:21:35,723 --> 03:21:37,257
district 2 item. Moved and

5060
03:21:37,257 --> 03:21:37,525
seconded. Supervisor foley,

5061
03:21:37,525 --> 03:21:38,658
question.

5062
03:21:38,658 --> 03:21:41,658
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.

5063
03:21:44,970 --> 03:21:47,697
Could I ask MR. Mccullough or

5064
03:22:04,919 --> 03:22:07,919
MR. Maine to come up?

5065
03:22:09,256 --> 03:22:10,891
>>speaker: good afternoon,

5066
03:22:10,891 --> 03:22:11,192
brian, from the sheriff's

5067
03:22:11,192 --> 03:22:11,792
department.

5068
03:22:11,792 --> 03:22:13,928
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

5069
03:22:13,928 --> 03:22:15,629
know this is retroactive because

5070
03:22:15,629 --> 03:22:17,131
of a delay by the community

5071
03:22:17,131 --> 03:22:19,466
college invoice us. And so I

5072
03:22:19,466 --> 03:22:22,403
guess my question is, this is 12

5073
03:22:22,403 --> 03:22:24,400
to 18-month delay. Is there a

5074
03:22:24,400 --> 03:22:26,140
way we can fix that so we don't

5075
03:22:26,140 --> 03:22:29,276
have that delay in the future?

5076
03:22:29,276 --> 03:22:30,760
Because we just voted on another

5077
03:22:30,760 --> 03:22:31,712
contract, right?

5078
03:22:31,712 --> 03:22:34,150
>>speaker: so it sounds like the

5079
03:22:34,150 --> 03:22:35,316
college has kind of gotten their

5080
03:22:35,316 --> 03:22:35,883
act together. It's our

5081
03:22:35,883 --> 03:22:37,384
understanding that the staff

5082
03:22:37,384 --> 03:22:38,653
they had in place was replaced

5083
03:22:38,653 --> 03:22:40,221
back in the fall of last year,

5084
03:22:40,221 --> 03:22:41,188
and the new staff member is kind

5085
03:22:41,188 --> 03:22:42,890
of on board. Our folks have

5086
03:22:42,890 --> 03:22:45,890
been working closely with them.

5087
03:22:46,260 --> 03:22:47,661
We on our side, we're tracking

5088
03:22:47,661 --> 03:22:49,263
it 100% accurately. We're

5089
03:22:49,263 --> 03:22:50,797
trying to get them to bill us.

5090
03:22:50,797 --> 03:22:51,731
They couldn't figure out a

5091
03:22:51,731 --> 03:22:53,266
mechanism, the college

5092
03:22:53,266 --> 03:22:54,401
administratively was kind of a

5093
03:22:54,401 --> 03:22:56,137
mess. They've gotten that

5094
03:22:56,137 --> 03:22:57,170
squared away, and it's our

5095
03:22:57,170 --> 03:22:58,338
understanding that the new staff

5096
03:22:58,338 --> 03:22:59,506
they have on board are kind of

5097
03:22:59,506 --> 03:23:00,907
locked in, and we're working

5098
03:23:00,907 --> 03:23:02,243
closely with them so this

5099
03:23:02,243 --> 03:23:02,876
doesn't happen again.

5100
03:23:02,876 --> 03:23:03,878
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

5101
03:23:03,878 --> 03:23:04,411
Appreciate that. Thank you

5102
03:23:04,411 --> 03:23:06,460
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

5103
03:23:06,460 --> 03:23:07,148
right. I heard a motion. Did I

5104
03:23:07,148 --> 03:23:08,483
get a second

5105
03:23:08,483 --> 03:23:09,350
>>clerk, robin stieler: yes.

5106
03:23:09,350 --> 03:23:10,684
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

5107
03:23:10,684 --> 03:23:13,840
seconded. Any objection? The

5108
03:23:13,287 --> 03:23:13,922
item is approved. 61, please.

5109
03:23:13,922 --> 03:23:14,622
>>clerk, robin stieler: 61.

5110
03:23:14,622 --> 03:23:15,289
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

5111
03:23:15,289 --> 03:23:15,923
amendment 4 to contract

5112
03:23:15,923 --> 03:23:16,556
ma-060-21011079 with pepperdine

5113
03:23:16,556 --> 03:23:17,191
university for youth diversion

5114
03:23:17,191 --> 03:23:17,824
counseling services, 7/1/26-

5115
03:23:17,824 --> 03:23:18,493
6/30/27 ($448,396; cumulative

5116
03:23:18,493 --> 03:23:19,127
total $2,504,736); and authorize

5117
03:23:19,127 --> 03:23:19,726
county procurement officer or

5118
03:23:19,726 --> 03:23:22,126
deputized designee to execute

5119
03:23:22,329 --> 03:23:24,329
amendment

5120
03:23:24,699 --> 03:23:25,399
we have no requests to speak on

5121
03:23:25,399 --> 03:23:26,566
agenda item 61.

5122
03:23:26,566 --> 03:23:27,340
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is

5123
03:23:27,340 --> 03:23:28,468
an all-district item.

5124
03:23:28,468 --> 03:23:28,736
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

5125
03:23:28,736 --> 03:23:29,937
the item.

5126
03:23:29,937 --> 03:23:30,771
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

5127
03:23:30,771 --> 03:23:31,939
seconded. Any objection?

5128
03:23:31,939 --> 03:23:34,208
Seeing none, item is approved.

5129
03:23:34,208 --> 03:23:34,843
62, please.

5130
03:23:34,843 --> 03:23:35,443
>>clerk, robin stieler: 62.

5131
03:23:35,443 --> 03:23:36,770
County counsel-approve

5132
03:23:36,770 --> 03:23:37,679
termination of local emergency

5133
03:23:37,679 --> 03:23:39,847
for the airport fire.

5134
03:23:39,847 --> 03:23:41,282
We have no requests to speak on

5135
03:23:41,282 --> 03:23:42,216
agenda item 62..

5136
03:23:42,216 --> 03:23:44,452
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is

5137
03:23:44,452 --> 03:23:45,854
an all-district item..

5138
03:23:45,854 --> 03:23:46,870
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

5139
03:23:46,870 --> 03:23:46,754
second.

5140
03:23:46,754 --> 03:23:47,855
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

5141
03:23:47,855 --> 03:23:50,255
seconded. Seeing no objection,

5142
03:23:54,529 --> 03:23:56,231
item is approved. 63. Call

5143
03:23:56,231 --> 03:23:56,898
item 63, please.

5144
03:23:56,898 --> 03:23:57,499
>>clerk, robin stieler: 63 under

5145
03:23:57,499 --> 03:23:58,166
county executive office-

5146
03:23:58,166 --> 03:23:58,766
approve amendment 2 to renew

5147
03:23:58,766 --> 03:23:59,400
contract ma-017-24011100 with

5148
03:23:59,400 --> 03:24:00,101
orange county's united way dba

5149
03:24:00,101 --> 03:24:00,835
orange county united way for

5150
03:24:00,835 --> 03:24:01,803
professional and technical

5151
03:24:01,803 --> 03:24:02,504
support, and information and

5152
03:24:02,504 --> 03:24:03,138
referral services, 7/1/26-

5153
03:24:03,138 --> 03:24:03,805
6/30/27 ($828,000; cumulative

5154
03:24:03,805 --> 03:24:04,572
total $2,460,224); and authorize

5155
03:24:04,572 --> 03:24:05,273
county procurement officer or

5156
03:24:05,273 --> 03:24:07,673
deputized designee to execute

5157
03:24:09,711 --> 03:24:11,711
amendment

5158
03:24:11,879 --> 03:24:12,781
we have no requests to speak on

5159
03:24:12,781 --> 03:24:13,681
agenda item 63.

5160
03:24:13,681 --> 03:24:14,515
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

5161
03:24:14,515 --> 03:24:16,515
all-district item.

5162
03:24:17,485 --> 03:24:17,752
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

5163
03:24:17,752 --> 03:24:18,986
the item.

5164
03:24:18,986 --> 03:24:19,988
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

5165
03:24:19,988 --> 03:24:21,988
seconded. Any objection?

5166
03:24:22,123 --> 03:24:24,358
Seeing none, item is approved.

5167
03:24:24,358 --> 03:24:24,993
64, please.

5168
03:24:24,993 --> 03:24:25,694
>>clerk, robin stieler: 64.

5169
03:24:25,694 --> 03:24:26,393
Under county executive office-

5170
03:24:26,393 --> 03:24:27,270
approve amendment 1 to contract

5171
03:24:27,270 --> 03:24:27,862
ma-017-25010195 with hub for

5172
03:24:27,862 --> 03:24:29,164
integration, reentry and

5173
03:24:29,164 --> 03:24:29,997
employment for workforce reentry

5174
03:24:29,997 --> 03:24:30,765
services, term ending 9/12/27

5175
03:24:30,765 --> 03:24:31,498
($250,000; cumulative total

5176
03:24:31,498 --> 03:24:32,166
$2,150,000); renewable for two

5177
03:24:32,166 --> 03:24:32,866
additional one-year terms; and

5178
03:24:32,866 --> 03:24:33,534
authorize county procurement

5179
03:24:33,534 --> 03:24:35,836
officer or deputized designee to

5180
03:24:35,836 --> 03:24:36,771
execute amendment

5181
03:24:36,771 --> 03:24:38,373
and we have received four

5182
03:24:38,373 --> 03:24:38,549
requests to speak on agenda item

5183
03:24:38,549 --> 03:24:39,741
64.

5184
03:24:39,741 --> 03:24:41,175
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

5185
03:24:41,175 --> 03:24:41,775
call the speakers

5186
03:24:41,775 --> 03:24:44,175
>>clerk, robin stieler: mayor

5187
03:24:45,646 --> 03:24:48,149
pro tem david penelosa, paula ga

5188
03:24:48,149 --> 03:24:51,149
elevator, a cassandra perez and

5189
03:24:51,820 --> 03:24:52,520
andrew linares.

5190
03:24:52,520 --> 03:24:54,920
>>vincente sarmiento: MR. Chair,

5191
03:24:54,923 --> 03:24:55,522
I think those comments were

5192
03:24:55,522 --> 03:24:57,458
mistakenly given because they

5193
03:24:57,458 --> 03:24:58,826
wanted to speak on the budget

5194
03:24:58,826 --> 03:25:01,280
item but then we got

5195
03:25:01,280 --> 03:25:01,395
clarification that it was on a

5196
03:25:01,395 --> 03:25:02,290
different item.

5197
03:25:02,290 --> 03:25:03,397
>>chair, doug chaffee: so none

5198
03:25:03,397 --> 03:25:05,900
of them are be present. All

5199
03:25:05,900 --> 03:25:06,700
right, then this is a district 2

5200
03:25:06,700 --> 03:25:07,335
item

5201
03:25:07,335 --> 03:25:07,969
>>vincente sarmiento: I'll move

5202
03:25:07,969 --> 03:25:09,300
the item.

5203
03:25:09,300 --> 03:25:09,537
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

5204
03:25:09,537 --> 03:25:11,306
seconded. Any objection?

5205
03:25:11,306 --> 03:25:13,541
Seeing none, item is approved.

5206
03:25:13,541 --> 03:25:14,308
Let's go to 65.

5207
03:25:14,308 --> 03:25:15,900
>>clerk, robin stieler: 65.

5208
03:25:15,900 --> 03:25:16,645
Under county executive office-

5209
03:25:16,645 --> 03:25:17,345
approve amended and restated

5210
03:25:17,345 --> 03:25:18,813
license agreement with james

5211
03:25:18,813 --> 03:25:20,115
productions, inc., for operation

5212
03:25:20,115 --> 03:25:20,782
of public fishing concession and

5213
03:25:20,782 --> 03:25:21,984
development of public

5214
03:25:21,984 --> 03:25:22,684
recreational activities at

5215
03:25:22,684 --> 03:25:23,418
irvine lake, 7/1/26-6/30/31;

5216
03:25:23,418 --> 03:25:24,253
renewable for one-year

5217
03:25:24,253 --> 03:25:25,119
extensions under certain

5218
03:25:25,119 --> 03:25:25,921
conditions; authorize chief real

5219
03:25:25,921 --> 03:25:26,688
estate officer or designee to

5220
03:25:26,688 --> 03:25:27,957
approve extensions, amendments

5221
03:25:27,957 --> 03:25:29,910
and execute license agreement

5222
03:25:29,910 --> 03:25:30,391
under certain conditions; and

5223
03:25:30,391 --> 03:25:31,760
make california environmental

5224
03:25:31,760 --> 03:25:33,361
quality act (Ceqa) Exemption

5225
03:25:33,361 --> 03:25:35,761
findings under ceqa guidelines

5226
03:25:37,766 --> 03:25:39,766
section 15301

5227
03:25:40,802 --> 03:25:41,870
this item does require a 4/5ths

5228
03:25:41,870 --> 03:25:44,500
vote of the members present. We

5229
03:25:44,500 --> 03:25:44,373
have no requests to speak on

5230
03:25:44,373 --> 03:25:46,208
agenda item 65.

5231
03:25:46,208 --> 03:25:47,342
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is a

5232
03:25:47,342 --> 03:25:48,109
district 3 item.

5233
03:25:48,109 --> 03:25:48,343
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

5234
03:25:48,343 --> 03:25:49,645
second.

5235
03:25:49,645 --> 03:25:50,812
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

5236
03:25:50,812 --> 03:25:53,147
seconded. Any objection? It's

5237
03:25:53,147 --> 03:25:54,949
unanimous, a 4/5ths vote

5238
03:25:54,949 --> 03:25:56,717
requirement is achieved. Let's

5239
03:25:56,717 --> 03:25:57,319
get to 66, please.

5240
03:25:57,319 --> 03:25:57,985
>>clerk, robin stieler: 66.

5241
03:25:57,985 --> 03:25:58,787
Under county executive office-

5242
03:25:58,787 --> 03:25:59,688
approve contract ma-017-26011314

5243
03:25:59,688 --> 03:26:00,322
with institute for urban

5244
03:26:00,322 --> 03:26:01,560
initiatives for continuum of

5245
03:26:01,560 --> 03:26:01,757
care program technical

5246
03:26:01,757 --> 03:26:02,557
assistance and consulting

5247
03:26:02,557 --> 03:26:03,325
services, 7/1/26-6/30/29

5248
03:26:03,325 --> 03:26:04,250
($225,000); and authorize county

5249
03:26:04,250 --> 03:26:04,692
procurement officer or deputized

5250
03:26:04,692 --> 03:26:06,692
designee to execute

5251
03:26:07,995 --> 03:26:09,995
contract

5252
03:26:10,931 --> 03:26:11,699
. We have no requests to speak

5253
03:26:11,699 --> 03:26:13,101
on agenda item 66.

5254
03:26:13,101 --> 03:26:13,502
>>chair, doug chaffee: 66 is an

5255
03:26:13,502 --> 03:26:14,136
all-district item.

5256
03:26:14,136 --> 03:26:16,505
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

5257
03:26:16,505 --> 03:26:17,706
the item..

5258
03:26:17,706 --> 03:26:19,600
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

5259
03:26:19,600 --> 03:26:20,208
objection? Seeing none, item is

5260
03:26:20,208 --> 03:26:20,809
approved. 67, please.

5261
03:26:20,809 --> 03:26:21,510
>>clerk, robin stieler: 67.

5262
03:26:21,510 --> 03:26:22,144
Under county executive office-

5263
03:26:22,144 --> 03:26:22,877
approve agreement for transfer

5264
03:26:22,877 --> 03:26:23,644
of real property and quitclaim

5265
03:26:23,644 --> 03:26:24,413
deed for transfer of a portion

5266
03:26:24,413 --> 03:26:25,179
of plaza of the fountains to

5267
03:26:25,179 --> 03:26:25,846
city of santa ana; authorize

5268
03:26:25,846 --> 03:26:26,648
chief real estate officer or

5269
03:26:26,648 --> 03:26:27,415
designee to execute agreement,

5270
03:26:27,415 --> 03:26:28,316
quitclaim deed, easement deed

5271
03:26:28,316 --> 03:26:30,152
and related documents

5272
03:26:30,152 --> 03:26:31,153
and take related actions under

5273
03:26:31,153 --> 03:26:32,721
certain conditions; and make

5274
03:26:32,721 --> 03:26:33,921
california environmental quality

5275
03:26:33,921 --> 03:26:35,757
act (Ceqa) Exemption findings

5276
03:26:35,757 --> 03:26:38,157
under ceqa guidelines section

5277
03:26:43,310 --> 03:26:45,431
15305 and other related findings

5278
03:26:45,600 --> 03:26:46,802
this item does require a 4/5ths

5279
03:26:46,802 --> 03:26:47,869
vote of the members present. We

5280
03:26:47,869 --> 03:26:49,271
have no requests to speak on

5281
03:26:49,271 --> 03:26:49,871
agenda item 67.

5282
03:26:49,871 --> 03:26:50,706
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

5283
03:26:50,706 --> 03:26:51,739
district 2 item

5284
03:26:51,739 --> 03:26:51,939
>>vincente sarmiento: move the

5285
03:26:51,939 --> 03:26:53,241
item.

5286
03:26:53,241 --> 03:26:53,475
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

5287
03:26:53,475 --> 03:26:54,800
second.

5288
03:26:54,800 --> 03:26:55,510
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

5289
03:26:55,510 --> 03:26:57,211
objection? Seeing none, item is

5290
03:26:57,211 --> 03:26:57,913
approved. 68, please.

5291
03:26:57,913 --> 03:26:59,114
>>clerk, robin stieler: 68.

5292
03:26:59,114 --> 03:26:59,815
Under county executive office-

5293
03:26:59,815 --> 03:27:00,449
approve memorandum of

5294
03:27:00,449 --> 03:27:01,820
understanding (Mou) With

5295
03:27:01,820 --> 03:27:01,751
superior court of california,

5296
03:27:01,751 --> 03:27:02,450
county of orange for provision

5297
03:27:02,450 --> 03:27:03,185
of services, 7/1/26-6/30/27;

5298
03:27:03,185 --> 03:27:04,519
authorize county executive

5299
03:27:04,519 --> 03:27:05,287
officer or designee to execute

5300
03:27:05,287 --> 03:27:05,954
mou; and authorize county

5301
03:27:05,954 --> 03:27:06,655
procurement officer or

5302
03:27:06,655 --> 03:27:08,590
deputized designee to adjust

5303
03:27:08,590 --> 03:27:10,990
annual contract amount under

5304
03:27:13,662 --> 03:27:14,764
certain conditions

5305
03:27:14,764 --> 03:27:17,400
and we have received one

5306
03:27:17,400 --> 03:27:20,135
requests to speak on agenda item

5307
03:27:20,135 --> 03:27:21,837
68..

5308
03:27:21,837 --> 03:27:23,772
>>chair, doug chaffee: there's

5309
03:27:23,772 --> 03:27:24,600
one speaker? Please call the

5310
03:27:24,600 --> 03:27:26,600
speaker

5311
03:27:26,708 --> 03:27:27,709
>>clerk, robin stieler: deborah

5312
03:27:27,709 --> 03:27:29,709
donothan.

5313
03:27:29,845 --> 03:27:31,546
>>speaker: hello, I'm deborah

5314
03:27:31,546 --> 03:27:33,882
donothan commenting on item 68,

5315
03:27:33,882 --> 03:27:34,750
the county executive office

5316
03:27:34,750 --> 03:27:36,919
memorandum of understanding with

5317
03:27:36,919 --> 03:27:39,319
the orange county superior

5318
03:27:39,522 --> 03:27:40,856
court. When the county enters

5319
03:27:40,856 --> 03:27:42,156
service agreements with the

5320
03:27:42,156 --> 03:27:43,693
court, the public needs

5321
03:27:43,693 --> 03:27:45,393
transparency about what services

5322
03:27:45,393 --> 03:27:46,929
are being provided, what fund

5323
03:27:46,929 --> 03:27:49,329
something involved and whether

5324
03:27:49,932 --> 03:27:51,366
those services intercept with

5325
03:27:51,366 --> 03:27:53,766
probate, mental health court,

5326
03:27:53,769 --> 03:27:55,769
care court, conservatorship,

5327
03:27:55,804 --> 03:27:56,604
disability services or

5328
03:27:56,604 --> 03:27:58,407
behavioral health placements.

5329
03:27:58,407 --> 03:28:01,407
I'm asking the forward about

5330
03:28:02,977 --> 03:28:05,790
require public reporting ada and

5331
03:28:05,790 --> 03:28:06,714
olmsted safeguards, a clear

5332
03:28:06,714 --> 03:28:08,714
separation between county

5333
03:28:08,817 --> 03:28:10,753
behavioral health funding and

5334
03:28:10,753 --> 03:28:12,520
court processes that MAY result

5335
03:28:12,520 --> 03:28:14,255
in loss of liberty, family

5336
03:28:14,255 --> 03:28:14,756
separation or restrictive

5337
03:28:14,756 --> 03:28:15,690
placement. Thank you.

5338
03:28:15,690 --> 03:28:15,902
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

5339
03:28:15,902 --> 03:28:17,902
you.

5340
03:28:18,930 --> 03:28:20,493
>>clerk, robin stieler: no

5341
03:28:20,495 --> 03:28:21,263
further speakers, MR. Chair

5342
03:28:21,263 --> 03:28:22,865
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

5343
03:28:22,865 --> 03:28:23,650
right, item 68 an all-district

5344
03:28:23,650 --> 03:28:24,966
item.

5345
03:28:24,966 --> 03:28:25,400
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

5346
03:28:25,400 --> 03:28:26,234
the item

5347
03:28:26,234 --> 03:28:26,769
>>vincente sarmiento: second.

5348
03:28:26,769 --> 03:28:28,837
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

5349
03:28:28,837 --> 03:28:30,673
objection? Seeing none, item is

5350
03:28:30,673 --> 03:28:31,439
approved. 69, please.

5351
03:28:31,439 --> 03:28:32,207
>>clerk, robin stieler: 69.

5352
03:28:32,207 --> 03:28:32,874
Under county executive office-

5353
03:28:32,874 --> 03:28:33,508
approve retroactive amendment 3

5354
03:28:33,508 --> 03:28:34,376
to renew contract ma-017-

5355
03:28:34,376 --> 03:28:35,440
25011394 with carahsoft

5356
03:28:35,440 --> 03:28:36,880
technology corp for email

5357
03:28:36,880 --> 03:28:38,747
subscription management services

5358
03:28:38,747 --> 03:28:39,748
(Govdelivery), 5/1/26-4/30/27

5359
03:28:39,748 --> 03:28:40,383
($188,024; cumulative total

5360
03:28:40,383 --> 03:28:41,500
$340,115); and authorize county

5361
03:28:41,500 --> 03:28:43,450
procurement officer or deputized

5362
03:28:44,185 --> 03:28:45,153
designee to execute amendment

5363
03:28:45,153 --> 03:28:46,880
we have no requests to speak on

5364
03:28:46,880 --> 03:28:47,289
agenda item 69.

5365
03:28:47,289 --> 03:28:50,289
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

5366
03:28:51,227 --> 03:28:52,161
all-district item. Moved and

5367
03:28:52,161 --> 03:28:54,970
seconded. Seeing no objection,

5368
03:28:54,970 --> 03:28:54,931
the item is approved. 70,

5369
03:28:54,931 --> 03:28:55,631
please.

5370
03:28:55,631 --> 03:28:56,365
>>clerk, robin stieler: 70.

5371
03:28:56,365 --> 03:28:57,660
Under county executive office-

5372
03:28:57,660 --> 03:28:57,734
approve grant

5373
03:28:57,734 --> 03:28:58,601
applications/awards submitted by

5374
03:28:58,601 --> 03:28:59,835
county executive office, health

5375
03:28:59,835 --> 03:29:00,536
care agency, oc community

5376
03:29:00,536 --> 03:29:01,304
resources, oc waste & recycling

5377
03:29:01,304 --> 03:29:02,805
and sheriff-coroner, ratified

5378
03:29:02,805 --> 03:29:03,606
grant applications/awards

5379
03:29:03,606 --> 03:29:04,474
submitted by county executive

5380
03:29:04,474 --> 03:29:05,408
office, health care agency and

5381
03:29:05,408 --> 03:29:07,577
john wayne airport and

5382
03:29:07,577 --> 03:29:08,477
retroactive grant

5383
03:29:08,477 --> 03:29:09,312
applications/awards submitted by

5384
03:29:09,312 --> 03:29:10,312
oc public works and

5385
03:29:10,312 --> 03:29:12,312
sheriff-coroner in 6/23/26 grant

5386
03:29:19,555 --> 03:29:21,900
report and other actions as recommended

5387
03:29:21,900 --> 03:29:23,492
and we have no requests to speak

5388
03:29:23,492 --> 03:29:25,260
on agenda item 70..

5389
03:29:25,260 --> 03:29:27,463
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is

5390
03:29:27,463 --> 03:29:28,397
an all-district item and our

5391
03:29:28,397 --> 03:29:29,565
grant report.

5392
03:29:29,565 --> 03:29:31,167
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

5393
03:29:31,167 --> 03:29:33,402
the item chafed no objection,

5394
03:29:33,402 --> 03:29:34,136
item is approved. 71, please.

5395
03:29:34,136 --> 03:29:34,804
>>clerk, robin stieler: 71.

5396
03:29:34,804 --> 03:29:35,471
Under county executive office-

5397
03:29:35,471 --> 03:29:36,138
approve recommended positions on

5398
03:29:36,138 --> 03:29:36,905
introduced or amended

5399
03:29:36,905 --> 03:29:39,305
legislation and/or consider

5400
03:29:40,750 --> 03:29:42,770
other legislative subject matters

5401
03:29:42,770 --> 03:29:42,778
we have no requests to speak on

5402
03:29:42,778 --> 03:29:43,246
agenda item 71

5403
03:29:43,246 --> 03:29:45,246
>>chair, doug chaffee:

5404
03:29:47,349 --> 03:29:47,725
all-district item. Supervisor

5405
03:29:47,725 --> 03:29:48,917
sarmiento?

5406
03:29:48,917 --> 03:29:51,186
>>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank

5407
03:29:51,186 --> 03:29:52,487
you, MR. Chair. I did want to

5408
03:29:52,487 --> 03:29:55,240
draw attention to something that

5409
03:29:55,240 --> 03:29:56,925
I know this board has been made

5410
03:29:56,925 --> 03:29:58,460
aware of as of late last week,

5411
03:29:58,460 --> 03:30:02,660
even though it was at the 11th

5412
03:30:03,933 --> 03:30:07,360
hour. We had a bill, ab2194

5413
03:30:07,360 --> 03:30:07,936
that was authored by

5414
03:30:07,936 --> 03:30:10,730
assemblymember valencia and was

5415
03:30:10,730 --> 03:30:11,707
carrying a bill for us, which

5416
03:30:11,707 --> 03:30:13,309
was really sort of a simple

5417
03:30:13,309 --> 03:30:14,777
bill. I guess the general

5418
03:30:14,777 --> 03:30:17,280
intent was to stagger terms of

5419
03:30:17,280 --> 03:30:18,614
the appointees to the cal optima

5420
03:30:18,614 --> 03:30:20,783
board of directors. I want to

5421
03:30:20,783 --> 03:30:23,819
thank you, MR. Chair, because I

5422
03:30:23,819 --> 03:30:26,819
know that the author basically

5423
03:30:27,560 --> 03:30:28,558
revised the bill extensively,

5424
03:30:28,558 --> 03:30:30,994
and it is a much different bill

5425
03:30:30,994 --> 03:30:33,129
than what was first proposed by

5426
03:30:33,129 --> 03:30:36,266
this board and supported by this

5427
03:30:36,266 --> 03:30:38,168
board. So it is in essence to

5428
03:30:38,168 --> 03:30:40,568
remove the county supervisors

5429
03:30:40,704 --> 03:30:42,505
from serving on the board of

5430
03:30:42,505 --> 03:30:43,640
directors at cal optima but also

5431
03:30:43,640 --> 03:30:46,400
creating an appointment body

5432
03:30:47,770 --> 03:30:48,444
made up of an assembly member,

5433
03:30:48,444 --> 03:30:50,713
senator, and a member of

5434
03:30:50,713 --> 03:30:53,113
congress that represent medi-cal

5435
03:30:53,382 --> 03:30:56,152
members here in the county. So

5436
03:30:56,152 --> 03:30:58,587
I know that one of the first

5437
03:30:58,587 --> 03:31:00,900
things that you did when we

5438
03:31:00,900 --> 03:31:02,426
received that revisions and that

5439
03:31:02,426 --> 03:31:04,527
new bill was way letter in

5440
03:31:04,527 --> 03:31:06,610
opposition. So I thank you,

5441
03:31:06,610 --> 03:31:07,630
MR. Chair, for doing that

5442
03:31:07,630 --> 03:31:09,465
quickly. You were on the board,

5443
03:31:09,465 --> 03:31:11,801
and you've been served on the

5444
03:31:11,801 --> 03:31:13,803
board of cal optima and you know

5445
03:31:13,803 --> 03:31:15,472
that we have been trying to do

5446
03:31:15,472 --> 03:31:16,373
very good things there under

5447
03:31:16,373 --> 03:31:18,373
some difficult circumstances.

5448
03:31:18,608 --> 03:31:19,308
So, you know, the county's

5449
03:31:19,308 --> 03:31:21,708
operated under a county

5450
03:31:22,111 --> 03:31:23,946
organized health system model

5451
03:31:23,946 --> 03:31:25,949
that's allowed for, you know,

5452
03:31:25,949 --> 03:31:27,830
local leaders, community

5453
03:31:27,830 --> 03:31:29,830
stakeholders, providers, and

5454
03:31:29,386 --> 03:31:31,520
public representatives to have

5455
03:31:31,520 --> 03:31:33,920
meaningful voice in the

5456
03:31:34,423 --> 03:31:35,900
oversight of a multibillion

5457
03:31:35,900 --> 03:31:37,900
dollar organization responsible

5458
03:31:37,594 --> 03:31:38,494
for delivering health care to

5459
03:31:38,494 --> 03:31:40,960
our residents here, especially

5460
03:31:40,960 --> 03:31:43,960
our seniors, those who are

5461
03:31:43,133 --> 03:31:45,334
disabled and low income. So

5462
03:31:45,334 --> 03:31:46,669
today, you know, caloptima is

5463
03:31:46,669 --> 03:31:48,471
arguably one of the strongest

5464
03:31:48,471 --> 03:31:50,774
and most stable it's been. It's

5465
03:31:50,774 --> 03:31:52,341
been under some pressure in the

5466
03:31:52,341 --> 03:31:54,577
past I know our former

5467
03:31:54,577 --> 03:31:56,178
colleague, who is now serving

5468
03:31:56,178 --> 03:31:58,280
five years in federal prison for

5469
03:31:58,280 --> 03:32:00,149
corruption, was the chair. So I

5470
03:32:00,149 --> 03:32:03,553
know the board did a very good

5471
03:32:03,553 --> 03:32:04,553
job of trying to audit a lot of

5472
03:32:04,553 --> 03:32:06,823
the contracts he was involved in

5473
03:32:06,823 --> 03:32:09,793
when he was there serving on the

5474
03:32:09,793 --> 03:32:12,280
board. We've also done

5475
03:32:12,280 --> 03:32:14,428
investigations into issues that

5476
03:32:15,980 --> 03:32:16,767
were concerning and -- to the

5477
03:32:16,767 --> 03:32:18,201
public. But we've also done

5478
03:32:18,201 --> 03:32:20,437
incredible work in making sure

5479
03:32:20,437 --> 03:32:21,738
that there's more transparency

5480
03:32:21,738 --> 03:32:24,275
and better governance there. So

5481
03:32:24,275 --> 03:32:26,811
I do think that it's a much

5482
03:32:26,811 --> 03:32:28,211
better performing board of

5483
03:32:28,211 --> 03:32:29,450
directors and health plan, and I

5484
03:32:29,450 --> 03:32:31,349
think it's something that we can

5485
03:32:31,349 --> 03:32:33,500
all be proud of, which is why we

5486
03:32:33,500 --> 03:32:35,852
were kind of surprised to see a

5487
03:32:35,852 --> 03:32:38,187
very extensively revised bill

5488
03:32:38,187 --> 03:32:41,224
from what was agreed upon here

5489
03:32:41,224 --> 03:32:43,560
at county. And I know there was

5490
03:32:43,560 --> 03:32:45,262
some discussion at the board of

5491
03:32:45,262 --> 03:32:47,264
directors at caloptima about an

5492
03:32:47,264 --> 03:32:50,264
leapt of the original bill,

5493
03:32:50,534 --> 03:32:52,135
which had to do with providing

5494
03:32:52,135 --> 03:32:54,371
closed session information to

5495
03:32:54,371 --> 03:32:56,771
the alternate. There was

5496
03:32:56,774 --> 03:32:58,708
healthy debate. The board

5497
03:32:58,708 --> 03:33:01,245
majority chose to not support

5498
03:33:01,245 --> 03:33:02,980
that part of the bill. But when

5499
03:33:02,980 --> 03:33:05,214
it came back to the county,

5500
03:33:05,214 --> 03:33:07,484
there was no change. So the

5501
03:33:07,484 --> 03:33:10,721
bill stood as it was originally

5502
03:33:10,721 --> 03:33:13,721
drafted, and it included that,

5503
03:33:14,570 --> 03:33:15,759
despite the decision and the

5504
03:33:15,759 --> 03:33:17,494
direction at the caloptima board

5505
03:33:17,494 --> 03:33:19,610
of directors. So I know that,

5506
03:33:19,610 --> 03:33:21,130
you know, tomorrow this bill

5507
03:33:21,130 --> 03:33:22,865
will be heard. This revised

5508
03:33:22,865 --> 03:33:25,768
bill will be heard at the senate

5509
03:33:25,768 --> 03:33:27,470
health committee. And it is

5510
03:33:27,470 --> 03:33:30,139
moving very fast. It is a bill

5511
03:33:30,139 --> 03:33:31,307
that was introduced at 11th

5512
03:33:31,307 --> 03:33:33,243
hour, a very, very different

5513
03:33:33,243 --> 03:33:34,977
version of what this board had

5514
03:33:34,977 --> 03:33:38,150
agreed to support. So one of

5515
03:33:38,150 --> 03:33:39,716
the other elements of this is

5516
03:33:39,716 --> 03:33:41,170
that, you know, what causes

5517
03:33:41,170 --> 03:33:43,353
heightened concern is that

5518
03:33:43,353 --> 03:33:46,290
orange county would become the

5519
03:33:46,290 --> 03:33:48,591
only one of the 34 counties

5520
03:33:48,591 --> 03:33:50,991
served by california's organized

5521
03:33:51,661 --> 03:33:52,428
health system without directly

5522
03:33:52,428 --> 03:33:54,164
elected county board of

5523
03:33:54,164 --> 03:33:56,564
supervisors on its governing

5524
03:33:57,201 --> 03:33:58,601
board. That really makes us an

5525
03:33:58,601 --> 03:34:00,838
outlier and wouldn't have that

5526
03:34:00,838 --> 03:34:01,738
accountability that many of us

5527
03:34:01,738 --> 03:34:04,675
believe is important to have

5528
03:34:04,675 --> 03:34:05,677
elected officials on there.

5529
03:34:05,677 --> 03:34:08,770
There's only two supervisors

5530
03:34:08,179 --> 03:34:11,179
that serve on a nine-person

5531
03:34:11,949 --> 03:34:14,251
board. So we certainly have a

5532
03:34:14,251 --> 03:34:15,786
role, I think, to be responsive

5533
03:34:15,786 --> 03:34:18,689
to the members and to the

5534
03:34:18,689 --> 03:34:20,324
taxpayers here that stand that

5535
03:34:20,324 --> 03:34:23,360
public health plan up. But the

5536
03:34:23,360 --> 03:34:26,196
appointed members have a very

5537
03:34:26,196 --> 03:34:29,796
robust role. I know that for

5538
03:34:30,334 --> 03:34:34,205
the past year, we had the --

5539
03:34:34,205 --> 03:34:35,806
appointed member isabel becerra

5540
03:34:35,806 --> 03:34:36,440
serve as our chair for a year

5541
03:34:36,440 --> 03:34:38,800
and a half. I know the

5542
03:34:38,800 --> 03:34:40,211
vice-chair is a family member.

5543
03:34:40,211 --> 03:34:40,944
She represents a seat on that

5544
03:34:40,944 --> 03:34:43,880
board that, you know, has a

5545
03:34:43,880 --> 03:34:44,848
family member who is a medi-cal

5546
03:34:44,848 --> 03:34:47,840
and caloptima member. We tried

5547
03:34:47,840 --> 03:34:48,551
do as much as we could to make

5548
03:34:48,551 --> 03:34:50,354
sure that appointees on that

5549
03:34:50,354 --> 03:34:52,556
board have no more or no less

5550
03:34:52,556 --> 03:34:53,957
authority than the supervisors.

5551
03:34:53,957 --> 03:34:56,357
Nonetheless, I think supervisors

5552
03:34:58,395 --> 03:35:00,130
have a critical role as all the

5553
03:35:00,130 --> 03:35:02,233
cosystems in the state have

5554
03:35:02,233 --> 03:35:03,301
agreed, that there should be a

5555
03:35:03,301 --> 03:35:06,301
blend of both appointed members

5556
03:35:06,404 --> 03:35:09,306
and elected members. So this

5557
03:35:09,306 --> 03:35:11,442
was a surprise, I know, to

5558
03:35:11,442 --> 03:35:12,976
supervisor nguyen and I, who are

5559
03:35:12,976 --> 03:35:14,978
the supervisors who are

5560
03:35:14,978 --> 03:35:16,379
presently serving on that board

5561
03:35:16,379 --> 03:35:19,979
of directors. And I know that

5562
03:35:21,551 --> 03:35:23,321
we plan to go up to sacramento

5563
03:35:23,321 --> 03:35:24,655
tomorrow just to make sure that

5564
03:35:24,655 --> 03:35:27,230
the committee understands the

5565
03:35:27,230 --> 03:35:29,426
dynamic of what we've been

5566
03:35:29,426 --> 03:35:30,927
trying to do. I think our roles

5567
03:35:30,927 --> 03:35:33,196
as watchdogs on that board as

5568
03:35:33,196 --> 03:35:34,498
well has been well documented.

5569
03:35:34,498 --> 03:35:36,701
I know that a lot of the work

5570
03:35:36,701 --> 03:35:38,335
that has been done has been, you

5571
03:35:38,335 --> 03:35:40,738
know -- just making sure that

5572
03:35:40,738 --> 03:35:42,873
services and programs for our

5573
03:35:42,873 --> 03:35:45,873
caloptima members continue to be

5574
03:35:46,410 --> 03:35:48,810
funded and supported. Just

5575
03:35:49,947 --> 03:35:52,250
recently, we adopted a $430

5576
03:35:52,250 --> 03:35:53,117
million rig provider -- rate

5577
03:35:53,117 --> 03:35:55,387
provider increase to make sure

5578
03:35:55,387 --> 03:35:57,550
that our medi-cal members and

5579
03:35:57,550 --> 03:35:59,156
caloptima members continue to

5580
03:35:59,156 --> 03:35:59,757
receive support from the

5581
03:35:59,757 --> 03:36:01,559
physicians, from the hospitals

5582
03:36:01,559 --> 03:36:03,394
and everybody else in our

5583
03:36:03,394 --> 03:36:05,363
network. And I learned, and

5584
03:36:05,363 --> 03:36:08,132
something that we learned was we

5585
03:36:08,132 --> 03:36:09,734
were the only health plan in the

5586
03:36:09,734 --> 03:36:11,369
entire state, county health plan

5587
03:36:11,369 --> 03:36:13,370
to do that. So that was

5588
03:36:13,370 --> 03:36:14,772
something that was important for

5589
03:36:14,772 --> 03:36:16,707
us to do because we want to

5590
03:36:16,707 --> 03:36:18,308
support our providers so they

5591
03:36:18,308 --> 03:36:20,578
can support our member

5592
03:36:20,578 --> 03:36:22,814
recipients. But I do -- I would

5593
03:36:22,814 --> 03:36:24,449
ask this board to change its

5594
03:36:24,449 --> 03:36:26,849
position from its original

5595
03:36:27,318 --> 03:36:30,318
support position of the original

5596
03:36:30,888 --> 03:36:32,550
draft of ab2194 to an opposed

5597
03:36:32,550 --> 03:36:34,391
position because it's a much

5598
03:36:34,391 --> 03:36:37,391
different bill than what was

5599
03:36:38,829 --> 03:36:39,963
introduced originally. I know

5600
03:36:39,963 --> 03:36:42,963
that our local advocates that

5601
03:36:43,700 --> 03:36:45,836
are on our -- you know, on our

5602
03:36:45,836 --> 03:36:47,700
sacramento side precision have

5603
03:36:47,700 --> 03:36:48,605
been working feverishly to make

5604
03:36:48,605 --> 03:36:50,675
sure that they're able to tell

5605
03:36:50,675 --> 03:36:51,875
our story. We have 10

5606
03:36:51,875 --> 03:36:54,275
opposition letters from some

5607
03:36:55,713 --> 03:36:57,315
very, very strong advocates in

5608
03:36:57,315 --> 03:36:58,348
the -- or stakeholders in the

5609
03:36:58,348 --> 03:37:01,285
health care industry. Both are

5610
03:37:01,285 --> 03:37:02,986
local and state hospital

5611
03:37:02,986 --> 03:37:04,221
association have written

5612
03:37:04,221 --> 03:37:05,223
letters, in addition to many

5613
03:37:05,223 --> 03:37:06,724
others. And I think there is

5614
03:37:06,724 --> 03:37:08,560
some clarity. I think the only

5615
03:37:08,560 --> 03:37:11,195
letters so far that we've seen

5616
03:37:11,195 --> 03:37:12,950
in support was from ocea but we

5617
03:37:12,950 --> 03:37:14,198
were assured that they were

5618
03:37:14,198 --> 03:37:17,198
going to withdraw that and

5619
03:37:18,135 --> 03:37:19,670
submit an oppose letter because

5620
03:37:19,670 --> 03:37:20,771
that -- that letter that they

5621
03:37:20,771 --> 03:37:22,740
originally sent was in support

5622
03:37:22,740 --> 03:37:25,944
of the original draft the bill.

5623
03:37:25,944 --> 03:37:28,779
So there is an urgency to this.

5624
03:37:28,779 --> 03:37:29,580
I believe that supervisors have

5625
03:37:29,580 --> 03:37:30,647
an incredibly critical role.

5626
03:37:30,647 --> 03:37:32,717
This county has stood this plan

5627
03:37:32,717 --> 03:37:34,919
up and has had a seat on that

5628
03:37:34,919 --> 03:37:37,254
table to make sure that there's

5629
03:37:37,254 --> 03:37:38,756
balance, there's accountability,

5630
03:37:38,756 --> 03:37:40,559
and responsiveness to the public

5631
03:37:40,559 --> 03:37:42,594
and to the members that they

5632
03:37:42,594 --> 03:37:45,530
serve. So I would ask that this

5633
03:37:45,530 --> 03:37:47,132
board revise its position from

5634
03:37:47,132 --> 03:37:48,834
support of the original draft of

5635
03:37:48,834 --> 03:37:49,734
the bill to oppose. We

5636
03:37:49,734 --> 03:37:51,836
certainly are grateful to the

5637
03:37:51,836 --> 03:37:54,205
author for carrying the original

5638
03:37:54,205 --> 03:37:55,140
bill. I want to make sure he

5639
03:37:55,140 --> 03:37:57,409
hears publically from me that

5640
03:37:57,409 --> 03:37:58,844
I'd like him to work with us if

5641
03:37:58,844 --> 03:38:01,780
there are any rescissions he'd

5642
03:38:01,780 --> 03:38:02,848
like to make. But these are

5643
03:38:02,848 --> 03:38:04,848
drastic disproportionate changes

5644
03:38:05,749 --> 03:38:06,618
to a bill that was simply meant

5645
03:38:06,618 --> 03:38:09,210
to staring terms of the

5646
03:38:09,210 --> 03:38:11,560
appointed members. So to the

5647
03:38:11,560 --> 03:38:14,656
extent that we can work on

5648
03:38:15,627 --> 03:38:17,627
better governance, more

5649
03:38:17,929 --> 03:38:20,329
partnership between our federal

5650
03:38:20,431 --> 03:38:22,500
and state electeds and

5651
03:38:22,500 --> 03:38:23,467
delegation members here, we're

5652
03:38:23,467 --> 03:38:25,569
certainly open to that. I'm

5653
03:38:25,569 --> 03:38:27,238
certainly open to that as the

5654
03:38:27,238 --> 03:38:28,839
chair of caloptima. And I

5655
03:38:28,839 --> 03:38:30,875
know -- I'm sure this board

5656
03:38:30,875 --> 03:38:32,544
doesn't see any problem with

5657
03:38:32,544 --> 03:38:34,579
working with our federal and

5658
03:38:34,579 --> 03:38:36,281
state partners and making sure

5659
03:38:36,281 --> 03:38:40,481
we improve our work there at the

5660
03:38:41,860 --> 03:38:42,653
public health plan. So that is

5661
03:38:42,653 --> 03:38:44,923
my -- those are my comments,

5662
03:38:44,923 --> 03:38:47,626
MR. Chair. The only other thing

5663
03:38:47,626 --> 03:38:48,627
I would add is that we have

5664
03:38:48,627 --> 03:38:50,261
precision working very hard for

5665
03:38:50,261 --> 03:38:53,431
us. This is kind of a tricky

5666
03:38:53,431 --> 03:38:57,310
moment because those of our --

5667
03:38:57,968 --> 03:38:59,270
my colleagues, supervisor wagner

5668
03:38:59,270 --> 03:39:00,304
and nguyen, who have been in the

5669
03:39:00,304 --> 03:39:01,539
legislature, know that getting

5670
03:39:01,539 --> 03:39:03,800
out of the committee is

5671
03:39:03,800 --> 03:39:04,108
critically important. If it

5672
03:39:04,108 --> 03:39:04,910
doesn't get out of committee,

5673
03:39:04,910 --> 03:39:06,377
the bill doesn't go anywhere.

5674
03:39:06,377 --> 03:39:07,779
But if it does get out of

5675
03:39:07,779 --> 03:39:10,181
committee and goes to the floor,

5676
03:39:10,181 --> 03:39:11,749
then it gets trickier. So to

5677
03:39:11,749 --> 03:39:14,518
the extent that also an appetite

5678
03:39:14,518 --> 03:39:16,321
to maybe engage, you know, an

5679
03:39:16,321 --> 03:39:18,356
outside advocacy firm that will

5680
03:39:18,356 --> 03:39:20,580
help on the senate side, I think

5681
03:39:20,580 --> 03:39:20,892
that's something that we should

5682
03:39:20,892 --> 03:39:22,892
consider.

5683
03:39:23,195 --> 03:39:24,896
I know precision has been doing

5684
03:39:24,896 --> 03:39:26,499
a lot. They have a lot in -- on

5685
03:39:26,499 --> 03:39:28,600
their plate. But just something

5686
03:39:28,600 --> 03:39:32,200
for us to consider because this

5687
03:39:33,205 --> 03:39:34,640
is a very, very, again, you

5688
03:39:34,640 --> 03:39:37,640
know, change in direction for

5689
03:39:39,770 --> 03:39:40,946
what this board's role is on

5690
03:39:40,946 --> 03:39:43,349
caloptima is. I'll leave it at

5691
03:39:43,349 --> 03:39:43,522
that and hand the mike back to

5692
03:39:43,522 --> 03:39:44,483
you.

5693
03:39:44,483 --> 03:39:47,520
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

5694
03:39:47,520 --> 03:39:48,387
for your explanation.

5695
03:39:48,387 --> 03:39:49,855
supervisor nguyen

5696
03:39:49,855 --> 03:39:50,889
>>janet nguyen: thank you,

5697
03:39:50,889 --> 03:39:53,570
MR. CHAIRMAN. Yeah. This was a

5698
03:39:53,570 --> 03:39:55,227
big surprise. It was a gut and

5699
03:39:55,227 --> 03:39:56,928
amend bill. I have had the

5700
03:39:56,928 --> 03:39:59,998
opportunity to talk with to the

5701
03:39:59,998 --> 03:40:01,500
assembly man, and I appreciate

5702
03:40:01,500 --> 03:40:02,434
the conversation. I was able to

5703
03:40:02,434 --> 03:40:05,437
spend some time with him and

5704
03:40:05,437 --> 03:40:07,205
went through the changes of

5705
03:40:07,205 --> 03:40:09,107
caloptima since actually I was

5706
03:40:09,107 --> 03:40:11,376
the one who originally started

5707
03:40:11,376 --> 03:40:13,611
the change in caloptima.

5708
03:40:13,611 --> 03:40:15,414
Originally caloptima only had

5709
03:40:15,414 --> 03:40:17,448
one board of supervisors. And,

5710
03:40:17,448 --> 03:40:18,549
you know, my first original

5711
03:40:18,549 --> 03:40:21,486
change was to include two county

5712
03:40:21,486 --> 03:40:23,822
supervisors because it is a 4.5

5713
03:40:23,822 --> 03:40:26,822
billion budget. I believe it

5714
03:40:26,891 --> 03:40:28,560
should warrant a minimum two

5715
03:40:28,560 --> 03:40:30,461
county supervisors' attention,

5716
03:40:30,461 --> 03:40:31,998
and it is also -- oversees

5717
03:40:31,998 --> 03:40:34,766
almost a million individuals on

5718
03:40:34,766 --> 03:40:36,350
medi-cal of our 3.2 million

5719
03:40:36,350 --> 03:40:38,469
residents. So I believe that

5720
03:40:38,469 --> 03:40:40,380
having two county supervisors on

5721
03:40:40,380 --> 03:40:42,106
the board with an alternate

5722
03:40:42,106 --> 03:40:44,506
gives the attention caloptima

5723
03:40:45,243 --> 03:40:47,110
needs and gives also the -- you

5724
03:40:47,110 --> 03:40:48,880
know, the concerns of the

5725
03:40:48,880 --> 03:40:51,830
residents who are on med came.

5726
03:40:51,830 --> 03:40:54,830
My district currently is the

5727
03:40:54,219 --> 03:40:55,920
second largest med came

5728
03:40:55,920 --> 03:40:57,880
recipients in orange county. My

5729
03:40:57,880 --> 03:40:59,488
original district that included

5730
03:41:01,993 --> 03:41:03,610
santa ana was the number 1.

5731
03:41:03,610 --> 03:41:05,461
Supervisor sarmiento has the

5732
03:41:06,932 --> 03:41:08,868
highest number. And we separate

5733
03:41:08,868 --> 03:41:10,868
about 100,000 residents apart

5734
03:41:11,404 --> 03:41:12,771
between the first and second.

5735
03:41:12,771 --> 03:41:14,340
So I went through and explained

5736
03:41:14,340 --> 03:41:16,675
all that to him. And, you know,

5737
03:41:16,675 --> 03:41:20,413
what I do appreciate is that I

5738
03:41:20,413 --> 03:41:21,347
think we -- us and the assembly

5739
03:41:21,347 --> 03:41:23,516
man, we do share the same goal

5740
03:41:23,516 --> 03:41:25,251
of ensuring strong oversight,

5741
03:41:25,251 --> 03:41:27,251
accountability and transparency

5742
03:41:27,286 --> 03:41:29,488
while trying to prevent the type

5743
03:41:29,488 --> 03:41:31,824
of corruption and manage

5744
03:41:31,824 --> 03:41:33,459
management that occurred under

5745
03:41:33,459 --> 03:41:35,861
the previous supervisor. And so

5746
03:41:35,861 --> 03:41:37,663
I ask him whether the

5747
03:41:37,663 --> 03:41:39,398
restructuring the governance

5748
03:41:39,398 --> 03:41:40,532
model now through his new gut

5749
03:41:40,532 --> 03:41:44,132
and amend bill, that I believe

5750
03:41:45,538 --> 03:41:47,173
we can work together to strain

5751
03:41:47,173 --> 03:41:48,874
caloptima's oversight, implement

5752
03:41:48,874 --> 03:41:50,443
meaningful reforms, protect

5753
03:41:50,443 --> 03:41:52,100
taxpayers, members and the

5754
03:41:52,100 --> 03:41:53,511
public trust as well. So I know

5755
03:41:53,511 --> 03:41:55,800
a lot of things have been

5756
03:41:55,800 --> 03:41:57,183
happening since the weekend. I

5757
03:41:57,183 --> 03:41:58,318
reached out to the member of the

5758
03:41:58,318 --> 03:42:01,318
senate health committee as well

5759
03:42:04,123 --> 03:42:06,458
as I formerly have -- majority

5760
03:42:06,458 --> 03:42:07,260
my time up there, I served as

5761
03:42:07,260 --> 03:42:08,226
vice-chair of senate health. So

5762
03:42:08,226 --> 03:42:10,296
I'm very familiar, and it is

5763
03:42:10,296 --> 03:42:11,197
going to be a long day tomorrow.

5764
03:42:11,197 --> 03:42:12,300
It is the last day of that

5765
03:42:12,300 --> 03:42:14,133
committee hearing. And it will

5766
03:42:14,133 --> 03:42:15,867
also be my first time going back

5767
03:42:15,867 --> 03:42:18,770
to sacramento since I came back

5768
03:42:18,770 --> 03:42:20,373
here to the -- since I came back

5769
03:42:20,373 --> 03:42:21,907
here to the county, so I'm

5770
03:42:21,907 --> 03:42:23,208
actually excited to see some of

5771
03:42:23,208 --> 03:42:26,208
my former colleagues as well.

5772
03:42:26,446 --> 03:42:29,682
But to add to that, one is to

5773
03:42:29,682 --> 03:42:31,184
clarify ocea did send a letter,

5774
03:42:31,184 --> 03:42:33,318
resending their original support

5775
03:42:33,318 --> 03:42:35,687
as of late last night. And so

5776
03:42:35,687 --> 03:42:37,550
they do not -- so there is

5777
03:42:37,550 --> 03:42:39,991
currently no support for this

5778
03:42:39,991 --> 03:42:42,461
bill at all. So every

5779
03:42:42,461 --> 03:42:43,462
stakeholder in orange county,

5780
03:42:43,462 --> 03:42:45,862
bipartisan has actually stepped

5781
03:42:46,965 --> 03:42:50,702
up and is in opposition of the

5782
03:42:50,702 --> 03:42:53,106
bill. And on top of that, I do

5783
03:42:53,106 --> 03:42:54,841
agree with supervisor sarmiento,

5784
03:42:54,841 --> 03:42:57,978
that, you know, if there's an

5785
03:42:57,978 --> 03:43:00,978
opportunity, I think the board

5786
03:43:01,810 --> 03:43:03,216
should and could engage in

5787
03:43:03,216 --> 03:43:04,951
additional advocacy of working

5788
03:43:04,951 --> 03:43:07,351
alongside precision to continue

5789
03:43:07,953 --> 03:43:08,988
to work the bill if it does pass

5790
03:43:08,988 --> 03:43:11,388
the senate health committee.

5791
03:43:13,393 --> 03:43:16,993
There's been a lot of direction

5792
03:43:18,565 --> 03:43:20,366
from the caucus, from the health

5793
03:43:20,366 --> 03:43:22,366
senate caucus recommendation,

5794
03:43:23,736 --> 03:43:26,973
and so it's ongoing. And so I'm

5795
03:43:26,973 --> 03:43:28,775
hopeful that there would be some

5796
03:43:28,775 --> 03:43:32,211
resolution to -- for us to work

5797
03:43:32,211 --> 03:43:33,747
with the assembly man going

5798
03:43:33,747 --> 03:43:34,747
forward for any opportunity. If

5799
03:43:34,747 --> 03:43:36,348
he sees something that we

5800
03:43:36,348 --> 03:43:39,284
don't -- that we haven't seen,

5801
03:43:39,284 --> 03:43:40,787
let's work together because in

5802
03:43:40,787 --> 03:43:41,788
our conversation it's -- you

5803
03:43:41,788 --> 03:43:43,923
know, it's been a very good

5804
03:43:43,923 --> 03:43:45,457
conversation. And so I'm hoping

5805
03:43:45,457 --> 03:43:47,694
that we can partner with him.

5806
03:43:47,694 --> 03:43:49,996
And so with that, MR. CHAIRMAN,

5807
03:43:49,996 --> 03:43:53,233
I would like to make a motion

5808
03:43:53,233 --> 03:43:55,235
that we oppose the current gut

5809
03:43:55,235 --> 03:43:58,835
and amend bill and also allow

5810
03:43:59,380 --> 03:44:03,238
the chair and/or the ceo, if

5811
03:44:04,344 --> 03:44:06,846
sees fit, to add in -- to hire

5812
03:44:06,846 --> 03:44:08,548
on new additional -- not new,

5813
03:44:08,548 --> 03:44:10,583
additional advocacy if this

5814
03:44:10,583 --> 03:44:11,217
moves forward out of the senate

5815
03:44:11,217 --> 03:44:12,918
health committee tomorrow. So

5816
03:44:12,918 --> 03:44:13,253
that would be my motion,

5817
03:44:13,253 --> 03:44:14,520
MR. CHAIRMAN.

5818
03:44:14,520 --> 03:44:16,255
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

5819
03:44:16,255 --> 03:44:18,491
you. And it's moved and

5820
03:44:18,491 --> 03:44:19,158
seconded. Vice-chair..

5821
03:44:19,158 --> 03:44:20,593
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

5822
03:44:20,593 --> 03:44:23,128
you, MR. CHAIRMAN. And thank

5823
03:44:23,128 --> 03:44:26,128
you to my colleagues for

5824
03:44:26,666 --> 03:44:28,334
sharing. I had a chance to meet

5825
03:44:28,334 --> 03:44:30,334
with assemblymember valencia

5826
03:44:30,503 --> 03:44:34,103
when I was in sacramento last

5827
03:44:34,340 --> 03:44:37,377
week. I was there to testify on

5828
03:44:37,377 --> 03:44:39,312
our county sponsored nitrous

5829
03:44:39,312 --> 03:44:40,614
oxide ban bill, and that did get

5830
03:44:40,614 --> 03:44:42,949
out of committee. 19-0. Happy

5831
03:44:42,949 --> 03:44:43,950
to hear. But we did have a

5832
03:44:43,950 --> 03:44:46,950
chance because this landed that

5833
03:44:48,955 --> 03:44:50,230
same day. So I had a chance to

5834
03:44:50,230 --> 03:44:52,580
talk with the assembly man.

5835
03:44:52,580 --> 03:44:54,428
And, you know, I'm not going to

5836
03:44:54,428 --> 03:44:56,530
get involved in relitigating

5837
03:44:56,530 --> 03:44:57,465
every issue that relates to

5838
03:44:57,465 --> 03:44:58,498
caloptima and what happened and

5839
03:44:58,498 --> 03:45:00,467
didn't happen and what kind of

5840
03:45:00,467 --> 03:45:02,200
triggered this for him as it

5841
03:45:02,200 --> 03:45:04,938
relates to some of the decisions

5842
03:45:04,938 --> 03:45:08,730
by the caloptima board, but what

5843
03:45:08,730 --> 03:45:10,477
I did hear him say, and I am

5844
03:45:10,477 --> 03:45:12,946
concerned about, is that his

5845
03:45:12,946 --> 03:45:15,946
office reached out several times

5846
03:45:16,683 --> 03:45:18,285
to us to ask about clarification

5847
03:45:18,285 --> 03:45:20,685
because there was conflicting

5848
03:45:20,721 --> 03:45:22,550
information of position coming

5849
03:45:22,550 --> 03:45:24,423
out of the caloptima board and

5850
03:45:24,423 --> 03:45:27,259
the county board. And -- where

5851
03:45:27,259 --> 03:45:28,762
we have two board members 60 on

5852
03:45:28,762 --> 03:45:30,597
the caloptima board and yet we

5853
03:45:30,597 --> 03:45:32,997
had two different positions.

5854
03:45:35,668 --> 03:45:37,470
And so they reached out, and

5855
03:45:37,470 --> 03:45:40,470
nobody responded. And so I

5856
03:45:41,908 --> 03:45:44,143
think that that also caused a

5857
03:45:44,143 --> 03:45:46,479
concern, and I think that we

5858
03:45:46,479 --> 03:45:49,583
need to, you know, as a

5859
03:45:49,583 --> 03:45:51,830
procedural matter, if there's a

5860
03:45:51,830 --> 03:45:53,419
board office sponsoring a bill,

5861
03:45:53,419 --> 03:45:54,820
then maybe they should be the

5862
03:45:54,820 --> 03:45:55,656
point person to respond. Or if

5863
03:45:55,656 --> 03:45:57,156
they're not available to

5864
03:45:57,156 --> 03:45:58,570
respond, then the CHAIRMAN

5865
03:45:58,570 --> 03:46:00,457
Should respond. But someone

5866
03:46:01,695 --> 03:46:04,695
needs to respond. My bigger

5867
03:46:06,366 --> 03:46:08,768
worry with this is that we

5868
03:46:08,768 --> 03:46:09,836
have -- now, this is a couple of

5869
03:46:09,836 --> 03:46:12,638
pieces of legislation over the

5870
03:46:12,638 --> 03:46:14,141
last couple of years that are

5871
03:46:14,141 --> 03:46:15,141
directed over at county of

5872
03:46:15,141 --> 03:46:16,576
orange board of supervisors.

5873
03:46:16,576 --> 03:46:18,878
And it really sends the wrong

5874
03:46:18,878 --> 03:46:21,878
message to the state legislature

5875
03:46:23,116 --> 03:46:26,287
about the work we're doing here,

5876
03:46:26,287 --> 03:46:27,989
about whether or not legislators

5877
03:46:27,989 --> 03:46:29,690
should carry a bill for us, and

5878
03:46:29,690 --> 03:46:31,826
wonder if our position might

5879
03:46:31,826 --> 03:46:33,160
shift at a later time. So I

5880
03:46:33,160 --> 03:46:34,295
hope that doesn't happen. I

5881
03:46:34,295 --> 03:46:37,295
hope these issues can get

5882
03:46:37,865 --> 03:46:39,266
resolved. There are some

5883
03:46:39,266 --> 03:46:41,902
elements to the gut and amend

5884
03:46:41,902 --> 03:46:44,104
revised bill that I do think are

5885
03:46:44,104 --> 03:46:46,507
valued. And I so I would ask

5886
03:46:46,507 --> 03:46:50,100
that you take a position of

5887
03:46:50,100 --> 03:46:52,580
oppose unless amended. I do

5888
03:46:52,580 --> 03:46:55,115
think that it is important to

5889
03:46:55,115 --> 03:46:57,851
have the health care director

5890
03:46:57,851 --> 03:46:59,353
and the social services agency's

5891
03:46:59,353 --> 03:47:01,488
director as voting members on

5892
03:47:01,488 --> 03:47:03,523
the board. I think that they

5893
03:47:03,523 --> 03:47:06,523
are integral to the operations

5894
03:47:07,695 --> 03:47:08,896
of how do we serve the community

5895
03:47:08,896 --> 03:47:12,496
being served. And so I actually

5896
03:47:15,836 --> 03:47:17,838
do agree with that. I think

5897
03:47:17,838 --> 03:47:20,740
that -- what the assembly man

5898
03:47:20,740 --> 03:47:21,509
told me is that he was removing

5899
03:47:21,509 --> 03:47:22,142
the three elected officials that

5900
03:47:22,142 --> 03:47:23,210
he had proposed for the

5901
03:47:23,210 --> 03:47:24,945
selection committee. And just

5902
03:47:24,945 --> 03:47:26,380
to be clear, he wasn't proposing

5903
03:47:26,380 --> 03:47:28,715
the three elected officials to

5904
03:47:28,715 --> 03:47:30,918
sit on the actual caloptima

5905
03:47:30,918 --> 03:47:32,519
board. They were just being

5906
03:47:32,519 --> 03:47:33,954
proposed on a selection

5907
03:47:33,954 --> 03:47:36,189
committee to select the board

5908
03:47:36,189 --> 03:47:38,240
members for the caloptima board,

5909
03:47:38,240 --> 03:47:40,127
which he has shared with me that

5910
03:47:40,127 --> 03:47:43,727
he is removing them. I don't

5911
03:47:43,930 --> 03:47:46,267
know if that's happened yet, and

5912
03:47:46,267 --> 03:47:48,735
so I also shared with him that

5913
03:47:48,735 --> 03:47:49,303
the selection committee didn't

5914
03:47:49,303 --> 03:47:51,638
have a procedure on how to

5915
03:47:51,638 --> 03:47:54,641
select people. So that, if it

5916
03:47:54,641 --> 03:47:56,760
goes forward, would have to get

5917
03:47:56,760 --> 03:47:59,760
corrected. So my concern that

5918
03:48:02,415 --> 03:48:06,150
there is support for this bill

5919
03:48:08,489 --> 03:48:12,260
and I would like us to see an

5920
03:48:12,260 --> 03:48:13,795
oppose, unless amended, another

5921
03:48:13,795 --> 03:48:14,863
amendment that would of course

5922
03:48:14,863 --> 03:48:16,664
support adding our two county

5923
03:48:16,664 --> 03:48:17,798
board members back on the

5924
03:48:17,798 --> 03:48:19,500
caloptima board. I do think

5925
03:48:19,500 --> 03:48:21,435
there's value having the board

5926
03:48:21,435 --> 03:48:23,670
member there is. I think if

5927
03:48:23,670 --> 03:48:25,473
this selection committee is

5928
03:48:25,473 --> 03:48:29,730
created, then that might solve a

5929
03:48:29,210 --> 03:48:30,511
concern that he has about undue

5930
03:48:30,511 --> 03:48:31,679
influence by the board and

5931
03:48:31,679 --> 03:48:34,679
selecting all the board members

5932
03:48:36,784 --> 03:48:40,384
for caloptima. So I support my

5933
03:48:41,322 --> 03:48:44,322
colleagues in trying to advocate

5934
03:48:44,559 --> 03:48:46,694
to maintain the board as is or

5935
03:48:46,694 --> 03:48:49,970
to at least get some changes

5936
03:48:49,970 --> 03:48:50,831
into this bill to benefit the

5937
03:48:50,831 --> 03:48:53,670
county and to maintain two

5938
03:48:53,670 --> 03:48:55,770
positions on that board. But I

5939
03:48:55,770 --> 03:48:59,970
worry that if we just take an

5940
03:49:00,808 --> 03:49:03,110
opposition position, that we are

5941
03:49:03,110 --> 03:49:05,446
not going to be successful. So

5942
03:49:05,446 --> 03:49:07,649
I'd like to request the maker of

5943
03:49:07,649 --> 03:49:10,751
the notion change your motion to

5944
03:49:10,751 --> 03:49:11,585
oppose unless amended..

5945
03:49:11,585 --> 03:49:13,754
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

5946
03:49:13,754 --> 03:49:14,721
for that. At this point, I must

5947
03:49:14,721 --> 03:49:17,291
comment. As soon as we found

5948
03:49:17,291 --> 03:49:18,459
out theres a need for

5949
03:49:18,459 --> 03:49:20,859
clarification coming from the

5950
03:49:21,194 --> 03:49:24,465
assembly man, that very day, we

5951
03:49:24,465 --> 03:49:25,766
prepare adler to transmit. It

5952
03:49:25,766 --> 03:49:27,300
was ready the next day. There

5953
03:49:27,300 --> 03:49:28,803
was no delay in responding to

5954
03:49:28,803 --> 03:49:33,373
him at all from the time he made

5955
03:49:33,373 --> 03:49:34,575
his request. Before we could

5956
03:49:34,575 --> 03:49:37,411
transmit letter, we learned he

5957
03:49:37,411 --> 03:49:38,979
changed the bill. So it's

5958
03:49:38,979 --> 03:49:40,547
totally false that we didn't get

5959
03:49:40,547 --> 03:49:43,550
back to him on time. We tried

5960
03:49:43,550 --> 03:49:45,860
to immediately. He had this

5961
03:49:45,860 --> 03:49:48,220
premeditated ahead of time. You

5962
03:49:48,220 --> 03:49:51,220
can't make that dramatic a

5963
03:49:51,250 --> 03:49:52,827
change overnight. It was very

5964
03:49:52,827 --> 03:49:55,630
detailed change. Curiously win

5965
03:49:55,630 --> 03:49:58,630
read this amended version, it

5966
03:49:58,133 --> 03:50:00,601
would put him on a selection

5967
03:50:00,601 --> 03:50:02,805
committee. He's running for the

5968
03:50:02,805 --> 03:50:03,771
state senate and that's one of

5969
03:50:03,771 --> 03:50:06,400
the offices he had selected in

5970
03:50:06,400 --> 03:50:10,840
that bill. So I do not agree to

5971
03:50:13,982 --> 03:50:15,716
that position of amended with --

5972
03:50:15,716 --> 03:50:17,919
-- posed unless amended. It's a

5973
03:50:17,919 --> 03:50:19,722
horrible bill. It just needs to

5974
03:50:19,722 --> 03:50:21,956
be killed moving forward.

5975
03:50:21,956 --> 03:50:24,192
Original idea, which we

5976
03:50:24,192 --> 03:50:25,260
promoted, was a bill we were

5977
03:50:25,260 --> 03:50:26,494
sponsoring, was simply to

5978
03:50:26,494 --> 03:50:28,830
stagger the terms of the

5979
03:50:28,830 --> 03:50:32,430
caloptima board so you have some

5980
03:50:32,466 --> 03:50:33,101
fep from year to year and get

5981
03:50:33,101 --> 03:50:36,101
better continuity and the other

5982
03:50:38,600 --> 03:50:40,410
was kind of an odd issue where

5983
03:50:40,410 --> 03:50:41,475
the interpretation is are you an

5984
03:50:41,475 --> 03:50:42,745
at facility that -- we do have

5985
03:50:42,745 --> 03:50:45,745
an alternate -- that you

5986
03:50:46,214 --> 03:50:47,514
couldn't have any closed session

5987
03:50:47,514 --> 03:50:50,514
material in advance unless you

5988
03:50:50,851 --> 03:50:52,786
suddenly became the person

5989
03:50:52,786 --> 03:50:54,321
involved. I'm that alternate.

5990
03:50:54,321 --> 03:50:55,624
I don't really have any interest

5991
03:50:55,624 --> 03:50:58,293
in that. But it made it

5992
03:50:58,293 --> 03:51:01,893
difficult to be prepared if you

5993
03:51:02,764 --> 03:51:04,999
weren't going to be involved in

5994
03:51:04,999 --> 03:51:06,600
that, as a good government that

5995
03:51:06,600 --> 03:51:07,935
allows people to be prepared.

5996
03:51:07,935 --> 03:51:09,504
It's the only board I know of

5997
03:51:09,504 --> 03:51:10,871
that doesn't allow alternates to

5998
03:51:10,871 --> 03:51:12,574
have the closed session

5999
03:51:12,574 --> 03:51:14,175
materials so they can be

6000
03:51:14,175 --> 03:51:14,576
prepared to respond. With that,

6001
03:51:14,576 --> 03:51:15,476
supervisor nguyen

6002
03:51:15,476 --> 03:51:17,770
>>janet nguyen: thank you,

6003
03:51:17,770 --> 03:51:18,130
MR. CHAIRMAN. I want to kind of

6004
03:51:18,130 --> 03:51:19,480
just respond to some of the

6005
03:51:19,480 --> 03:51:20,848
comments that were just made

6006
03:51:20,848 --> 03:51:24,448
from my colleagues. I did reach

6007
03:51:25,387 --> 03:51:27,188
out to the assembly man after I

6008
03:51:27,188 --> 03:51:30,258
was -- when it was mentioned

6009
03:51:30,258 --> 03:51:33,270
that the county did not respond.

6010
03:51:33,270 --> 03:51:34,620
I want to hands with that was

6011
03:51:34,620 --> 03:51:35,396
so I could share with my

6012
03:51:35,396 --> 03:51:37,796
colleagues. The assembly man

6013
03:51:38,600 --> 03:51:40,350
did reach out to the county on

6014
03:51:40,350 --> 03:51:42,337
MAY 22nd. And that is

6015
03:51:42,337 --> 03:51:44,807
actually the second day of the

6016
03:51:44,807 --> 03:51:47,807
garden grove incident. As you

6017
03:51:49,845 --> 03:51:51,647
know, my office, your offices

6018
03:51:51,647 --> 03:51:54,682
were all -- and the county was

6019
03:51:54,682 --> 03:51:57,986
hands on deck in garden grove.

6020
03:51:57,986 --> 03:52:00,154
And so there was confusion, and

6021
03:52:00,154 --> 03:52:02,290
I think in our office, also, we

6022
03:52:02,290 --> 03:52:04,693
assumed that since I voted

6023
03:52:04,693 --> 03:52:06,228
against the recommendation from

6024
03:52:06,228 --> 03:52:07,863
caloptima, I was actually the

6025
03:52:07,863 --> 03:52:09,965
one no vote because I do agree

6026
03:52:09,965 --> 03:52:10,666
that the alternate should have

6027
03:52:10,666 --> 03:52:12,301
that information. They should

6028
03:52:12,301 --> 03:52:13,901
have the information as they're

6029
03:52:13,901 --> 03:52:16,270
heading into closed session and

6030
03:52:16,270 --> 03:52:18,540
dis% they -- they shouldn't get

6031
03:52:18,540 --> 03:52:20,576
it before. And that was kind of

6032
03:52:20,576 --> 03:52:22,976
my explanation at caloptima.

6033
03:52:23,780 --> 03:52:24,613
But regardless, you know, that

6034
03:52:24,613 --> 03:52:26,949
was during the time when the

6035
03:52:26,949 --> 03:52:29,580
county was -- wasn't able to

6036
03:52:29,580 --> 03:52:31,353
respond. And I did personally

6037
03:52:31,353 --> 03:52:32,487
apologize to the assembly man if

6038
03:52:32,487 --> 03:52:34,523
there was a lack of -- but I

6039
03:52:34,523 --> 03:52:36,658
don't think there was a --

6040
03:52:36,658 --> 03:52:37,559
definitely, there was no

6041
03:52:37,559 --> 03:52:39,127
intention of a sign of any

6042
03:52:39,127 --> 03:52:40,695
disrespect or lack of interest

6043
03:52:40,695 --> 03:52:43,970
from the county. So I've shared

6044
03:52:43,970 --> 03:52:45,900
that with him. I do know that

6045
03:52:45,900 --> 03:52:48,270
we -- the county-led staff did

6046
03:52:48,270 --> 03:52:49,370
reach out on JUNE 2nd to his

6047
03:52:49,370 --> 03:52:51,405
chief of staff, obviously from

6048
03:52:51,405 --> 03:52:52,808
22nd to JUNE 2nd is quite a

6049
03:52:52,808 --> 03:52:53,908
difference in number of days,

6050
03:52:53,908 --> 03:52:55,610
but we did have the incident.

6051
03:52:55,610 --> 03:52:57,346
And I also mentioned to the

6052
03:52:57,346 --> 03:52:58,146
assembly man, I do appreciate

6053
03:52:58,146 --> 03:52:59,114
him because during the incident

6054
03:52:59,114 --> 03:53:01,516
he actually reached out to me,

6055
03:53:01,516 --> 03:53:03,785
offering if he could be of any

6056
03:53:03,785 --> 03:53:05,920
help, offering that anaheim has

6057
03:53:05,920 --> 03:53:07,656
hotels that they're -- you know,

6058
03:53:07,656 --> 03:53:09,570
he's talked to the hotels that

6059
03:53:09,570 --> 03:53:10,893
they're opening up to try to

6060
03:53:10,893 --> 03:53:13,495
help garden grove residents and

6061
03:53:13,495 --> 03:53:15,131
not just garden grove, but any

6062
03:53:15,131 --> 03:53:16,832
residents in the area, as well.

6063
03:53:16,832 --> 03:53:20,568
So I think that's a lack of

6064
03:53:20,568 --> 03:53:21,436
miscommunication and lack of --

6065
03:53:21,436 --> 03:53:23,836
basically, lack of communication

6066
03:53:24,239 --> 03:53:26,542
between the two sides. And so I

6067
03:53:26,542 --> 03:53:26,756
did personally apologize to

6068
03:53:26,756 --> 03:53:28,756
that.

6069
03:53:30,546 --> 03:53:32,247
In regards to the aca and ssa,

6070
03:53:32,247 --> 03:53:35,847
the reason why I originally did

6071
03:53:36,819 --> 03:53:39,855
not want to include hca and ssa

6072
03:53:39,855 --> 03:53:42,191
as voting members is to show

6073
03:53:42,191 --> 03:53:44,920
that that would add more votes

6074
03:53:44,920 --> 03:53:45,227
to the county. I wanted to show

6075
03:53:45,227 --> 03:53:47,429
that there isn't that bias from

6076
03:53:47,429 --> 03:53:49,765
the county's side. So if you

6077
03:53:49,765 --> 03:53:52,735
add hca and ssa as voting

6078
03:53:52,735 --> 03:53:53,602
members, that would add two

6079
03:53:53,602 --> 03:53:55,204
sprofers supervises. That's

6080
03:53:55,204 --> 03:53:56,972
four voting members that could

6081
03:53:56,972 --> 03:53:58,974
potentially be considered, you

6082
03:53:58,974 --> 03:54:00,276
know, to some folks a self

6083
03:54:00,276 --> 03:54:03,276
interest from the county's side.

6084
03:54:03,611 --> 03:54:05,414
And so when I did the original

6085
03:54:05,414 --> 03:54:08,414
change back in -- almost 15

6086
03:54:09,850 --> 03:54:11,986
years ago, it was not to -- yes.

6087
03:54:11,986 --> 03:54:12,921
The importance of hca being

6088
03:54:12,921 --> 03:54:16,521
there at the table is extremely

6089
03:54:18,600 --> 03:54:19,694
important and she's very

6090
03:54:19,694 --> 03:54:21,960
valuable -- he or she, is very

6091
03:54:21,960 --> 03:54:24,960
valuable for that dispoj that

6092
03:54:24,133 --> 03:54:25,801
information. Because we do do

6093
03:54:25,801 --> 03:54:28,700
the behavioral health of the

6094
03:54:28,700 --> 03:54:30,171
county. And in working with

6095
03:54:30,171 --> 03:54:31,540
caloptima and also the

6096
03:54:31,540 --> 03:54:33,540
eligibility worker vice-versa.

6097
03:54:35,744 --> 03:54:38,246
So I stand by not wanting hca or

6098
03:54:38,246 --> 03:54:41,717
ssa to be a voting member. And

6099
03:54:41,717 --> 03:54:44,186
so I don't -- I would not be --

6100
03:54:44,186 --> 03:54:47,155
withdraw my -- revising my

6101
03:54:47,155 --> 03:54:50,155
motion. And second with the

6102
03:54:51,260 --> 03:54:52,427
selection committee, you know I

6103
03:54:52,427 --> 03:54:54,363
think it's still problem make

6104
03:54:54,363 --> 03:54:56,763
the, even removing those

6105
03:54:56,898 --> 03:54:58,600
senators, the assemblymember and

6106
03:54:58,600 --> 03:55:00,502
congressional members. I did

6107
03:55:00,502 --> 03:55:02,738
share with the assembly man why

6108
03:55:02,738 --> 03:55:04,673
that part itself is problematic

6109
03:55:04,673 --> 03:55:08,273
because they -- all due respect

6110
03:55:09,478 --> 03:55:11,614
to those members -- haven't been

6111
03:55:11,614 --> 03:55:13,416
one. They don't see the daily

6112
03:55:13,416 --> 03:55:15,552
operations that we see here in

6113
03:55:15,552 --> 03:55:17,787
health care. And they're in

6114
03:55:17,787 --> 03:55:18,789
sacramento or D.C., so

6115
03:55:18,789 --> 03:55:20,924
ultimately it might be their

6116
03:55:20,924 --> 03:55:21,924
staff that come to be on that

6117
03:55:21,924 --> 03:55:23,993
slashing committee. So I

6118
03:55:23,993 --> 03:55:25,461
understood that, and he did

6119
03:55:25,461 --> 03:55:27,296
mention he would look at me

6120
03:55:27,296 --> 03:55:29,499
moving that part of it. I said

6121
03:55:29,499 --> 03:55:31,680
the rest of it is also

6122
03:55:31,680 --> 03:55:32,535
problematic because you have now

6123
03:55:32,535 --> 03:55:34,170
selection committee members who

6124
03:55:34,170 --> 03:55:35,571
would be appointing themselves.

6125
03:55:35,571 --> 03:55:36,372
You've got representatives from

6126
03:55:36,372 --> 03:55:37,373
the hospital, from thing you

6127
03:55:37,373 --> 03:55:38,641
know, all of the other

6128
03:55:38,641 --> 03:55:39,909
representatives. They're

6129
03:55:39,909 --> 03:55:41,544
actually the ones we're

6130
03:55:41,544 --> 03:55:43,112
selecting to be on that

6131
03:55:43,112 --> 03:55:45,140
committee, on that board. And

6132
03:55:45,140 --> 03:55:46,482
so now they're self-selecting

6133
03:55:46,482 --> 03:55:49,482
themselves. And I don't think

6134
03:55:50,720 --> 03:55:51,621
that should be it. Think the

6135
03:55:51,621 --> 03:55:53,856
current system, the which it's

6136
03:55:53,856 --> 03:55:54,657
working, not perfect, but I

6137
03:55:54,657 --> 03:55:57,657
think my intention originally is

6138
03:55:57,894 --> 03:56:00,229
to make it fair and balanced.

6139
03:56:00,229 --> 03:56:01,331
To making sure that the members

6140
03:56:01,331 --> 03:56:04,331
of caloptima whose actually in

6141
03:56:04,766 --> 03:56:06,968
the system is there, as well.

6142
03:56:06,968 --> 03:56:09,472
My original intent was that that

6143
03:56:09,472 --> 03:56:12,441
individual get a stipend, get

6144
03:56:12,441 --> 03:56:14,776
transportation stipend. Get a

6145
03:56:14,776 --> 03:56:16,311
daily stipend to show up and be

6146
03:56:16,311 --> 03:56:18,381
at these meetings because it is

6147
03:56:18,381 --> 03:56:20,183
difficult for them in terms of

6148
03:56:20,183 --> 03:56:23,510
financially. So that was all

6149
03:56:23,510 --> 03:56:26,510
the original intent. I think

6150
03:56:26,890 --> 03:56:26,723
that keeping at board of

6151
03:56:26,723 --> 03:56:29,123
supervisors, there is a

6152
03:56:29,291 --> 03:56:32,127
processed, and, you know, I it

6153
03:56:32,127 --> 03:56:33,363
has been working? Is it

6154
03:56:33,363 --> 03:56:35,763
perfect? Absolutely not. None

6155
03:56:36,980 --> 03:56:38,300
of the systems are. We'll

6156
03:56:38,300 --> 03:56:39,835
always look at it and look to

6157
03:56:39,835 --> 03:56:40,737
consider amendments. At this

6158
03:56:40,737 --> 03:56:42,938
moment right now in time is that

6159
03:56:42,938 --> 03:56:45,274
the bill and the recommendation

6160
03:56:45,274 --> 03:56:48,874
even at the caucus itself right

6161
03:56:50,460 --> 03:56:52,247
now is no, is not support bill

6162
03:56:52,247 --> 03:56:53,783
for the democratic caucus and

6163
03:56:53,783 --> 03:56:55,385
also the republican caucus.

6164
03:56:55,385 --> 03:56:57,720
There's a lot of moving parts

6165
03:56:57,720 --> 03:57:00,723
right now. And I think, you

6166
03:57:00,723 --> 03:57:02,959
know, tomorrow be a long day

6167
03:57:02,959 --> 03:57:05,495
because he is the 14th member

6168
03:57:05,495 --> 03:57:06,997
on that -- author for tomorrow's

6169
03:57:06,997 --> 03:57:09,232
agenda. And it's file order

6170
03:57:09,232 --> 03:57:11,334
only. And so we wouldn't know

6171
03:57:11,334 --> 03:57:13,350
when the bill's gonna be heard

6172
03:57:13,350 --> 03:57:14,770
and what the negotiation from

6173
03:57:14,770 --> 03:57:17,407
now into tomorrow as well. So

6174
03:57:17,407 --> 03:57:19,609
it's a moving target, and I

6175
03:57:19,609 --> 03:57:21,144
just -- I'm just hopeful that he

6176
03:57:21,144 --> 03:57:23,680
would just that I believe and

6177
03:57:23,680 --> 03:57:25,215
make it maybe a two-year bill or

6178
03:57:25,215 --> 03:57:26,160
can start over with us and work

6179
03:57:26,160 --> 03:57:27,617
on something.

6180
03:57:27,617 --> 03:57:29,617
But I cannot

6181
03:57:30,754 --> 03:57:33,754
support right now, you know,

6182
03:57:34,191 --> 03:57:35,892
hca, and then add on ssa as well

6183
03:57:35,892 --> 03:57:36,693
unless we have that longer

6184
03:57:36,693 --> 03:57:39,693
discussion, because I don't want

6185
03:57:41,163 --> 03:57:42,866
to make these, you know -- these

6186
03:57:42,866 --> 03:57:45,367
decisions last minute, just no

6187
03:57:45,367 --> 03:57:49,567
different than I'm not a big fan

6188
03:57:50,506 --> 03:57:52,175
when I was in the legislature.

6189
03:57:52,175 --> 03:57:55,212
We don't like the bills that

6190
03:57:55,212 --> 03:57:56,113
don't pass at all. It's unfair.

6191
03:57:56,113 --> 03:57:58,314
But I think we're in a good

6192
03:57:58,314 --> 03:58:00,714
position. Assembly image, we're

6193
03:58:01,752 --> 03:58:04,487
willing to work with you, if

6194
03:58:04,487 --> 03:58:06,220
there's a lot we could do

6195
03:58:06,220 --> 03:58:08,925
together in reform, but let's

6196
03:58:08,925 --> 03:58:09,258
move forward and have those

6197
03:58:09,258 --> 03:58:09,759
conversations

6198
03:58:09,759 --> 03:58:10,659
>>chair, doug chaffee:

6199
03:58:10,659 --> 03:58:11,561
supervisor sarmiento?

6200
03:58:11,561 --> 03:58:13,563
>>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank

6201
03:58:13,563 --> 03:58:15,898
you, chair. I won't repeat a

6202
03:58:15,898 --> 03:58:17,933
lot of what was said but I think

6203
03:58:17,933 --> 03:58:20,933
anytime something is done sort

6204
03:58:21,772 --> 03:58:24,307
of at the 11th hour, the

6205
03:58:24,307 --> 03:58:27,307
legislative cycle is kinding up,

6206
03:58:27,444 --> 03:58:30,947
and for there could be a

6207
03:58:30,947 --> 03:58:31,782
complete remediation and

6208
03:58:31,782 --> 03:58:33,650
deviation and departure from

6209
03:58:33,650 --> 03:58:36,620
what was originally agreed to,

6210
03:58:36,620 --> 03:58:40,220
it becomes a partner because you

6211
03:58:43,493 --> 03:58:46,493
then can't vet with these

6212
03:58:47,331 --> 03:58:50,331
questions in coming up. The

6213
03:58:52,102 --> 03:58:54,370
supervisor was referencing --

6214
03:58:54,370 --> 03:58:57,370
the toxic problem with a

6215
03:58:57,340 --> 03:59:00,340
chemical facility here in garden

6216
03:59:00,877 --> 03:59:02,446
grove, gkn, that weekend, had

6217
03:59:02,446 --> 03:59:03,614
all of us a little bit on our

6218
03:59:03,614 --> 03:59:05,749
heels. I know when we spoke

6219
03:59:05,749 --> 03:59:08,152
with peter and his team, they

6220
03:59:08,152 --> 03:59:11,188
tried to, I believe, message as

6221
03:59:11,188 --> 03:59:12,890
quickly as they could. We have

6222
03:59:12,890 --> 03:59:15,626
certainly do better. There's no

6223
03:59:15,626 --> 03:59:19,226
doubt about it. I just feel

6224
03:59:20,864 --> 03:59:21,532
that this is a different

6225
03:59:21,532 --> 03:59:22,732
proportional responsive to that.

6226
03:59:22,732 --> 03:59:25,102
There was a delay getting back

6227
03:59:25,102 --> 03:59:26,771
to the author to completely

6228
03:59:26,771 --> 03:59:28,772
undermine the way the board of

6229
03:59:28,772 --> 03:59:31,172
supervisors is configured and

6230
03:59:31,808 --> 03:59:34,208
selected to remove the

6231
03:59:34,978 --> 03:59:37,978
supervisors from this bad from

6232
03:59:38,140 --> 03:59:38,615
serving on there and something

6233
03:59:38,615 --> 03:59:40,950
accountable and working with

6234
03:59:40,950 --> 03:59:44,220
their employees is very that is

6235
03:59:44,220 --> 03:59:45,722
a very drastic departure. I

6236
03:59:45,722 --> 03:59:49,322
know DR. Kelley serves with us

6237
03:59:50,930 --> 03:59:53,930
on that board representing hca.

6238
03:59:53,960 --> 03:59:54,631
She is always a resource for

6239
03:59:54,631 --> 03:59:57,000
everyone on the board. And

6240
03:59:57,000 --> 03:59:57,901
because we're supervisors, we

6241
03:59:57,901 --> 03:59:59,335
oversee the entire incident

6242
03:59:59,335 --> 04:00:02,335
great thing you know, health

6243
04:00:03,840 --> 04:00:04,707
care number here in county. It

6244
04:00:04,707 --> 04:00:06,310
certainly does really help to

6245
04:00:06,310 --> 04:00:09,146
have her on there. So I

6246
04:00:09,146 --> 04:00:11,546
certainly appreciate her role.

6247
04:00:15,919 --> 04:00:19,550
Du I do ble that CHAIRMAN And --

6248
04:00:19,550 --> 04:00:20,224
that doing an oppose unless

6249
04:00:20,224 --> 04:00:23,824
amended I think really won't get

6250
04:00:25,962 --> 04:00:28,533
us there. I think that -- the

6251
04:00:28,533 --> 04:00:29,967
point is this is a very

6252
04:00:29,967 --> 04:00:30,868
difficult bill now to try to

6253
04:00:30,868 --> 04:00:33,400
work on. I don't think an

6254
04:00:33,400 --> 04:00:34,538
amended version of this bill

6255
04:00:34,538 --> 04:00:36,741
will get the author back on

6256
04:00:36,741 --> 04:00:39,276
board. I just think that there

6257
04:00:39,276 --> 04:00:40,877
has to be some support for

6258
04:00:40,877 --> 04:00:43,877
saying let's work on something

6259
04:00:43,914 --> 04:00:45,383
with a clean slate. Let's come

6260
04:00:45,383 --> 04:00:48,383
back and completey open to

6261
04:00:48,586 --> 04:00:50,721
sitting down and working withing

6262
04:00:50,721 --> 04:00:52,790
author and his staff to go

6263
04:00:52,790 --> 04:00:56,390
through this. And if you has

6264
04:01:00,564 --> 04:01:01,998
the votes, to get it there.

6265
04:01:01,998 --> 04:01:03,234
Will get through in any event.

6266
04:01:03,234 --> 04:01:05,435
I'm hoping that'll be reasonable

6267
04:01:05,435 --> 04:01:08,306
and realize that there is

6268
04:01:08,306 --> 04:01:10,607
nothing egregious or nefarious

6269
04:01:10,607 --> 04:01:13,610
to trigger this sort of drastic

6270
04:01:13,610 --> 04:01:15,146
change in a bill that was very,

6271
04:01:15,146 --> 04:01:18,382
very benign, and it was simply

6272
04:01:18,382 --> 04:01:19,249
meant to -- to introduce better

6273
04:01:19,249 --> 04:01:21,384
governance to staring those

6274
04:01:21,384 --> 04:01:23,987
seats on there. And the only

6275
04:01:23,987 --> 04:01:25,923
reason there was some discussion

6276
04:01:25,923 --> 04:01:27,624
and a difference of opinion on

6277
04:01:27,624 --> 04:01:29,590
having alternates have access to

6278
04:01:29,590 --> 04:01:31,459
closed session information was

6279
04:01:32,796 --> 04:01:35,796
the general counsel at caloptima

6280
04:01:37,334 --> 04:01:39,690
said that accessing information

6281
04:01:39,690 --> 04:01:41,710
information -- and with wasn't

6282
04:01:41,710 --> 04:01:44,207
just going to be when somebody

6283
04:01:44,207 --> 04:01:46,900
was coming in but information on

6284
04:01:46,900 --> 04:01:47,677
alternates all the time. It

6285
04:01:47,677 --> 04:01:49,113
could breach the privilege that

6286
04:01:49,113 --> 04:01:50,580
we know is protected by closed

6287
04:01:50,580 --> 04:01:54,180
session. So that was the simple

6288
04:01:54,218 --> 04:01:56,190
debate on that. But I think,

6289
04:01:56,190 --> 04:01:57,554
again, we could, you know,

6290
04:01:57,554 --> 04:01:59,560
deliberate and talk about, you

6291
04:01:59,560 --> 04:02:01,125
know, us being quicker on the

6292
04:02:01,125 --> 04:02:02,793
response to the author and

6293
04:02:02,793 --> 04:02:04,394
responding and engaging, and I

6294
04:02:04,394 --> 04:02:05,662
think we certainly can do

6295
04:02:05,662 --> 04:02:07,965
better, that's why we have a

6296
04:02:07,965 --> 04:02:10,965
legislative team. But at this

6297
04:02:11,268 --> 04:02:12,637
point, I think that we need to

6298
04:02:12,637 --> 04:02:15,106
hold fast. I don't want the

6299
04:02:15,106 --> 04:02:17,342
county to be singled out as an

6300
04:02:17,342 --> 04:02:20,342
outlier being the only health

6301
04:02:20,812 --> 04:02:22,180
plan in the state that doesn't

6302
04:02:22,180 --> 04:02:23,715
have county representatives

6303
04:02:23,715 --> 04:02:25,216
serving on there and being

6304
04:02:25,216 --> 04:02:28,216
accountable to the public. That

6305
04:02:28,253 --> 04:02:30,588
to me would be a more

6306
04:02:30,588 --> 04:02:32,988
disappointing conclusion of all

6307
04:02:33,491 --> 04:02:36,427
this because, again, I think

6308
04:02:36,427 --> 04:02:38,290
what was said, it's now the

6309
04:02:38,290 --> 04:02:38,996
second time that the county has

6310
04:02:38,996 --> 04:02:42,670
singled out in all of the

6311
04:02:42,670 --> 04:02:45,503
counties for things that I don't

6312
04:02:45,503 --> 04:02:46,637
believe are warranted. There's

6313
04:02:46,637 --> 04:02:49,370
nothing that warrants this

6314
04:02:55,213 --> 04:02:57,281
change at caloptima for the

6315
04:02:57,281 --> 04:03:00,184
previous departure from where it

6316
04:03:00,184 --> 04:03:00,784
was originally done. In any

6317
04:03:00,784 --> 04:03:02,586
event, MR. Chair, I think you

6318
04:03:02,586 --> 04:03:03,320
have a motion and a second on

6319
04:03:03,320 --> 04:03:04,322
the floor.

6320
04:03:04,322 --> 04:03:05,957
>>chair, doug chaffee: oh, yes.

6321
04:03:05,957 --> 04:03:08,580
Okay, supervisor foley, you've

6322
04:03:08,580 --> 04:03:08,260
already spoken, so pleads be

6323
04:03:08,260 --> 04:03:08,993
quick.

6324
04:03:08,993 --> 04:03:10,461
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

6325
04:03:10,461 --> 04:03:11,895
you, MR. CHAIRMAN. Thank you,

6326
04:03:11,895 --> 04:03:14,295
supervisor nguyen. I appreciate

6327
04:03:15,330 --> 04:03:17,267
the insight, and I guess I would

6328
04:03:17,267 --> 04:03:20,371
just appeal one more time to

6329
04:03:20,371 --> 04:03:22,606
this idea of a -- what I'm going

6330
04:03:22,606 --> 04:03:25,900
to consider an olive branch to

6331
04:03:25,900 --> 04:03:26,544
the assembly man by saying it

6332
04:03:26,544 --> 04:03:28,446
doesn't have to be specific

6333
04:03:28,446 --> 04:03:30,581
things in the bill, but maybe

6334
04:03:30,581 --> 04:03:32,584
just the opening of the opposed

6335
04:03:32,584 --> 04:03:35,486
unless amended. Because to your

6336
04:03:35,486 --> 04:03:37,255
point, let's work on it, make it

6337
04:03:37,255 --> 04:03:39,657
a two-year bill and make is

6338
04:03:39,657 --> 04:03:40,858
something that we can all

6339
04:03:40,858 --> 04:03:42,293
collaborate on. I just don't

6340
04:03:42,293 --> 04:03:45,293
know how successful we will

6341
04:03:45,529 --> 04:03:49,129
being if we just take this

6342
04:03:51,468 --> 04:03:53,304
aggress excessive -- aggressive

6343
04:03:53,304 --> 04:03:55,306
opposed position given what

6344
04:03:55,306 --> 04:03:56,407
happened the last time we did

6345
04:03:56,407 --> 04:03:59,645
that with the assembly man. So

6346
04:03:59,645 --> 04:04:00,846
my concern is that if we're not

6347
04:04:00,846 --> 04:04:02,314
showing some effort to

6348
04:04:02,314 --> 04:04:04,516
understand what his concerns

6349
04:04:04,516 --> 04:04:06,251
with and we're just taking an

6350
04:04:06,251 --> 04:04:07,986
aggression, opposition position,

6351
04:04:07,986 --> 04:04:09,888
we might be putting ourselves in

6352
04:04:09,888 --> 04:04:12,288
a negative bargaining position.

6353
04:04:16,427 --> 04:04:18,630
So that's the only reason -- and

6354
04:04:18,630 --> 04:04:20,650
I can guarantee you they're

6355
04:04:20,650 --> 04:04:20,899
watching our meeting right now.

6356
04:04:20,899 --> 04:04:21,299
>>chair, doug chaffee:

6357
04:04:21,299 --> 04:04:22,300
supervisor nguyen

6358
04:04:22,300 --> 04:04:25,300
>>janet nguyen: and I agree.

6359
04:04:26,237 --> 04:04:28,574
They are. I was -- I'd do the

6360
04:04:28,574 --> 04:04:29,907
same. I think there's a

6361
04:04:29,907 --> 04:04:32,907
difference between the last bill

6362
04:04:35,546 --> 04:04:36,848
and this one. And so full

6363
04:04:36,848 --> 04:04:38,350
disclosure, I supported the last

6364
04:04:38,350 --> 04:04:40,686
bill in the senate. I voted for

6365
04:04:40,686 --> 04:04:41,620
it. The difference is that

6366
04:04:41,620 --> 04:04:44,200
there was something that

6367
04:04:44,655 --> 04:04:45,289
triggered the last bill. It's

6368
04:04:45,289 --> 04:04:46,257
unfortunate, but there was

6369
04:04:46,257 --> 04:04:48,459
something and it was a

6370
04:04:48,459 --> 04:04:50,795
corruption scandal by a city's

6371
04:04:50,795 --> 04:04:52,795
supervisor. That's what

6372
04:04:53,931 --> 04:04:56,931
triggered. This bill, you have

6373
04:04:57,134 --> 04:05:00,134
no trigger. Two supervisors who

6374
04:05:00,905 --> 04:05:03,741
have been at forefront in trying

6375
04:05:03,741 --> 04:05:04,409
to ask the questions at

6376
04:05:04,409 --> 04:05:06,809
caloptima. Everything I say

6377
04:05:07,412 --> 04:05:11,120
here the assembly man has heard.

6378
04:05:13,852 --> 04:05:16,854
And so I don't think that this

6379
04:05:16,854 --> 04:05:20,910
warrant us in doing a, you know,

6380
04:05:20,910 --> 04:05:23,691
opposed and yet it's amended to

6381
04:05:26,630 --> 04:05:29,663
go back to the original bill.

6382
04:05:29,802 --> 04:05:33,905
So again, I oppose this bill and

6383
04:05:33,905 --> 04:05:37,505
also move that -- the CHAIRMAN

6384
04:05:37,576 --> 04:05:39,278
And/or the ceo can authorize any

6385
04:05:39,278 --> 04:05:41,678
additional advocacy efforts if

6386
04:05:43,815 --> 04:05:45,785
need to if bill moves forward.

6387
04:05:45,785 --> 04:05:46,819
And so, you know, I think

6388
04:05:46,819 --> 04:05:50,419
there's a lot of moving parts,

6389
04:05:51,557 --> 04:05:53,250
and I think -- I'm hopeful

6390
04:05:53,250 --> 04:05:55,600
because I've worked with the

6391
04:05:55,600 --> 04:05:57,563
assembly men or other things in

6392
04:05:57,563 --> 04:05:59,832
the past and reminded him of

6393
04:05:59,832 --> 04:06:01,934
that as well. So with that, I

6394
04:06:01,934 --> 04:06:04,334
continue with my motion,

6395
04:06:04,370 --> 04:06:05,270
mr. CHAIRMAN. I also do,

6396
04:06:05,270 --> 04:06:06,839
MR. CHAIRMAN -- I do have a

6397
04:06:06,839 --> 04:06:08,439
comment I would like to make on

6398
04:06:08,439 --> 04:06:11,476
the other bill. I can make that

6399
04:06:11,476 --> 04:06:13,445
comment, too? Or should we do

6400
04:06:13,445 --> 04:06:13,645
this one first and then dot

6401
04:06:13,645 --> 04:06:14,179
other.

6402
04:06:14,179 --> 04:06:15,180
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

6403
04:06:15,180 --> 04:06:18,217
right. We have a motion on this

6404
04:06:18,217 --> 04:06:22,417
bill. I'm not sure we have a

6405
04:06:25,570 --> 04:06:27,457
unanimous board. MADAM Clerk...

6406
04:06:32,665 --> 04:06:33,565
[Calling roll]

6407
04:06:33,565 --> 04:06:34,265
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

6408
04:06:34,265 --> 04:06:36,501
support the effort because I

6409
04:06:36,501 --> 04:06:37,603
want to be supportive of my

6410
04:06:37,603 --> 04:06:40,773
colleagues, but I do hope that

6411
04:06:40,773 --> 04:06:41,339
we go in in a collaborative

6412
04:06:41,339 --> 04:06:42,807
spirited. Thank you.

6413
04:06:42,807 --> 04:06:44,376
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

6414
04:06:44,376 --> 04:06:47,976
you. We do have a unanimous

6415
04:06:48,114 --> 04:06:49,648
vote. So thank you supervisors

6416
04:06:49,648 --> 04:06:52,648
nguyen and sarmiento for your

6417
04:06:52,785 --> 04:06:54,850
efforts on this. So now you

6418
04:06:54,850 --> 04:06:55,654
mentioned -- this isn't

6419
04:06:55,654 --> 04:06:58,654
complete. This is just one

6420
04:06:58,824 --> 04:07:00,125
bill. So you're right,

6421
04:07:00,125 --> 04:07:01,360
supervisor nguyen, if you'd like

6422
04:07:01,360 --> 04:07:03,261
to comment on another bill

6423
04:07:03,261 --> 04:07:04,996
>>janet nguyen: ab760 is a

6424
04:07:04,996 --> 04:07:07,320
similar bill, actually a

6425
04:07:07,320 --> 04:07:09,634
duplicate of a bill that I

6426
04:07:09,634 --> 04:07:13,234
authored when I was in the

6427
04:07:13,972 --> 04:07:14,906
senate and the senate work diane

6428
04:07:14,906 --> 04:07:17,306
exhibitionxon coaught twhord me.

6429
04:07:18,143 --> 04:07:20,446
It was after the huntington

6430
04:07:20,446 --> 04:07:23,182
beach oil still in 2021. At

6431
04:07:23,182 --> 04:07:26,618
that time we identify that the

6432
04:07:26,618 --> 04:07:29,321
victims who be passed on --

6433
04:07:29,321 --> 04:07:30,590
making them be taxed on

6434
04:07:30,590 --> 04:07:32,692
settlement payments. So our

6435
04:07:32,692 --> 04:07:34,193
bill was to make sure that

6436
04:07:34,193 --> 04:07:36,593
anybody who received individuals

6437
04:07:37,730 --> 04:07:39,466
and business who received

6438
04:07:39,466 --> 04:07:40,966
settlement by -- because of the

6439
04:07:40,966 --> 04:07:44,566
oil spill, will not be taxed.

6440
04:07:47,807 --> 04:07:48,941
And because ab760 is a depict of

6441
04:07:48,941 --> 04:07:52,578
that, and the reason is is that

6442
04:07:52,578 --> 04:07:55,578
the independent in garden grow.

6443
04:07:57,315 --> 04:08:00,315
Hazmat incidents they will not

6444
04:08:01,454 --> 04:08:03,454
be taxed

6445
04:08:04,824 --> 04:08:07,224
ed the settlement that

6446
04:08:11,640 --> 04:08:12,498
is an income and this memory.

6447
04:08:12,498 --> 04:08:14,801
This bill would make sure that

6448
04:08:14,801 --> 04:08:18,170
the funds that they received and

6449
04:08:18,170 --> 04:08:21,170
the settlement would not be

6450
04:08:21,607 --> 04:08:23,376
considered as a -- as an income

6451
04:08:23,376 --> 04:08:26,145
to be tasked by the state. So

6452
04:08:26,145 --> 04:08:27,746
with that, I move the bill

6453
04:08:27,746 --> 04:08:28,647
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

6454
04:08:28,647 --> 04:08:30,349
objection? I think we're done

6455
04:08:30,349 --> 04:08:32,418
now. Anything else on this

6456
04:08:32,418 --> 04:08:36,180
item? All right, the item moves

6457
04:08:39,258 --> 04:08:41,494
on. We have voted. Now we come

6458
04:08:41,494 --> 04:08:44,494
to 72, which is the airport.

6459
04:08:46,310 --> 04:08:47,666
And we have 72 through 76 that

6460
04:08:47,666 --> 04:08:50,666
are airport matters. If there

6461
04:08:50,770 --> 04:08:52,938
are no objections, I'd like to

6462
04:08:52,938 --> 04:08:54,606
take them as a group. MADAM

6463
04:08:54,606 --> 04:08:56,750
Clerk, would you go forward with

6464
04:08:56,750 --> 04:08:56,675
item 72 through 76.

6465
04:08:56,675 --> 04:08:57,243
>>clerk, robin stieler: 72.

6466
04:08:57,243 --> 04:08:57,911
Under john wayne airport-

6467
04:08:57,911 --> 04:08:58,544
approve contract ma-280-26011379

6468
04:08:58,544 --> 04:08:59,211
with bridgenet international,

6469
04:08:59,211 --> 04:08:59,812
inc. Dba bridgenet international

6470
04:08:59,812 --> 04:09:00,379
for airport noise monitoring

6471
04:09:00,379 --> 04:09:01,470
system services, 9/1/26-

6472
04:09:01,470 --> 04:09:01,681
8/31/31 ($1,858,003), authorize

6473
04:09:01,681 --> 04:09:02,315
county procurement officer or

6474
04:09:02,315 --> 04:09:02,948
deputized designee to execute

6475
04:09:02,948 --> 04:09:03,615
contract; and make california

6476
04:09:03,615 --> 04:09:04,217
environmental quality act (Ceqa)

6477
04:09:04,217 --> 04:09:06,617
Exemption findings under ceqa

6478
04:09:11,925 --> 04:09:12,525
guidelines section 15301

6479
04:09:12,525 --> 04:09:13,920
>>clerk, robin stieler: 73.

6480
04:09:13,920 --> 04:09:14,600
Under john wayne airport-

6481
04:09:14,600 --> 04:09:14,827
approve contract ma-280-26011292

6482
04:09:14,827 --> 04:09:15,862
with transcore, lp for hardware

6483
04:09:15,862 --> 04:09:16,496
and software maintenance

6484
04:09:16,496 --> 04:09:17,731
services, 9/1/26-8/31/31

6485
04:09:17,731 --> 04:09:18,397
($494,390); authorize county

6486
04:09:18,397 --> 04:09:19,310
procurement officer or deputized

6487
04:09:19,310 --> 04:09:19,700
designee to execute contract;

6488
04:09:19,700 --> 04:09:20,334
and make california

6489
04:09:20,334 --> 04:09:21,680
environmental quality

6490
04:09:21,680 --> 04:09:23,468
act (Ceqa) Exemption findings

6491
04:09:25,572 --> 04:09:26,806
under ceqa guidelines section 15301.

6492
04:09:26,806 --> 04:09:27,374
>>clerk, robin stieler: 74.

6493
04:09:27,374 --> 04:09:28,141
Under john wayne airport-

6494
04:09:28,141 --> 04:09:28,708
approve model aggregate contract

6495
04:09:28,708 --> 04:09:29,376
ma-280-26011036 for airport

6496
04:09:29,376 --> 04:09:29,975
materials testing and inspection

6497
04:09:29,975 --> 04:09:30,610
services, 7/23/26-7/22/29

6498
04:09:30,610 --> 04:09:31,243
($6,000,000); select and approve

6499
04:09:31,243 --> 04:09:31,811
respondents from solicitation

6500
04:09:31,811 --> 04:09:32,412
ranking results list; and

6501
04:09:32,412 --> 04:09:33,790
authorize county procurement

6502
04:09:33,790 --> 04:09:33,713
officer or deputized designee to

6503
04:09:33,713 --> 04:09:34,381
negotiate and execute contract

6504
04:09:34,381 --> 04:09:36,781
with selected respondents under

6505
04:09:40,954 --> 04:09:41,554
certain conditions

6506
04:09:41,554 --> 04:09:42,188
>>clerk, robin stieler: 75.

6507
04:09:42,188 --> 04:09:42,856
Under john wayne airport-

6508
04:09:42,856 --> 04:09:43,423
approve model aggregate contract

6509
04:09:43,423 --> 04:09:43,989
ma-280-26011042 for airport

6510
04:09:43,989 --> 04:09:44,858
planning and programming

6511
04:09:44,858 --> 04:09:45,591
services, 7/23/26-7/22/29

6512
04:09:45,591 --> 04:09:46,426
(Aggregate total $3,000,000);

6513
04:09:46,426 --> 04:09:47,194
select and approve respondents

6514
04:09:47,194 --> 04:09:48,360
from solicitation ranking

6515
04:09:48,360 --> 04:09:48,928
results list; and authorize

6516
04:09:48,928 --> 04:09:49,963
county procurement

6517
04:09:49,963 --> 04:09:50,597
officer or deputized designee to

6518
04:09:50,597 --> 04:09:51,997
negotiate and execute contract

6519
04:09:51,997 --> 04:09:54,397
with selected respondents under

6520
04:10:02,608 --> 04:10:03,609
certain conditions

6521
04:10:03,609 --> 04:10:04,243
>>clerk, robin stieler: 76.

6522
04:10:04,243 --> 04:10:05,945
Under john wayne airport-

6523
04:10:05,945 --> 04:10:06,879
approve aggregate contract

6524
04:10:06,879 --> 04:10:08,881
ma-280-26011375 with frasca &

6525
04:10:08,881 --> 04:10:10,216
associates, llc., unison

6526
04:10:10,216 --> 04:10:10,883
consulting, inc. And ricondo &

6527
04:10:10,883 --> 04:10:12,751
associates, inc. For airport

6528
04:10:12,751 --> 04:10:14,186
commercial consulting

6529
04:10:14,186 --> 04:10:14,954
services-airlines, three-year

6530
04:10:14,954 --> 04:10:15,588
term (Aggregate total

6531
04:10:15,588 --> 04:10:16,155
$1,100,000); renewable for one

6532
04:10:16,155 --> 04:10:16,755
additional two-year term;

6533
04:10:16,755 --> 04:10:17,424
authorize county procurement

6534
04:10:17,424 --> 04:10:18,424
officer or deputized designee to

6535
04:10:18,424 --> 04:10:19,326
execute contracts;

6536
04:10:19,326 --> 04:10:19,925
authorize director or designee

6537
04:10:19,925 --> 04:10:20,559
to exercise cost contingency

6538
04:10:20,559 --> 04:10:21,160
increase not to exceed 10% under

6539
04:10:21,160 --> 04:10:21,827
certain conditions; and make

6540
04:10:21,827 --> 04:10:22,428
california environmental quality

6541
04:10:22,428 --> 04:10:24,828
act (Ceqa) Exemption findings

6542
04:10:33,639 --> 04:10:36,390
under ceqa guidelines section 15378.

6543
04:10:37,277 --> 04:10:41,477
We have no requests to speak on

6544
04:10:41,814 --> 04:10:42,449
these items

6545
04:10:42,449 --> 04:10:43,649
>>chair, doug chaffee: these are

6546
04:10:43,649 --> 04:10:44,350
all district 4 items.

6547
04:10:44,350 --> 04:10:46,453
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

6548
04:10:46,453 --> 04:10:50,530
move the items, and as it

6549
04:10:52,725 --> 04:10:55,725
relates to 74, we'll move the

6550
04:10:56,763 --> 04:10:58,331
klein felder and sir turner rma

6551
04:10:58,331 --> 04:11:01,331
group to provide the materials,

6552
04:11:08,675 --> 04:11:12,275
and as it receipts to 75 there's

6553
04:11:14,415 --> 04:11:17,351
wsphmntb and kimly horn it looks

6554
04:11:17,351 --> 04:11:17,524
like they wanted all three.

6555
04:11:17,524 --> 04:11:18,518
Yes.

6556
04:11:18,518 --> 04:11:20,654
>>chair, doug chaffee: did that

6557
04:11:20,654 --> 04:11:23,457
cover it? I think it got all of

6558
04:11:23,457 --> 04:11:25,826
the renders. It's been moved.

6559
04:11:25,826 --> 04:11:27,861
I will second that item. Any

6560
04:11:27,861 --> 04:11:28,462
objection? Those items are

6561
04:11:28,462 --> 04:11:31,462
approved with the selection of

6562
04:11:35,401 --> 04:11:36,680
the vendors.. Now we go to 77.

6563
04:11:36,680 --> 04:11:36,703
>>clerk, robin stieler: 77.

6564
04:11:36,703 --> 04:11:37,337
Under oc community resources-

6565
04:11:37,337 --> 04:11:38,380
approve amendment 2 to

6566
04:11:38,380 --> 04:11:38,705
cooperative agreement c-1-3446

6567
04:11:38,705 --> 04:11:39,438
with orange county

6568
04:11:39,438 --> 04:11:40,390
transportation authority for

6569
04:11:40,390 --> 04:11:40,707
senior non-emergency medical

6570
04:11:40,707 --> 04:11:41,375
transportation services, 7/1/26

6571
04:11:41,375 --> 04:11:41,975
-6/30/31, in an award amount up

6572
04:11:41,975 --> 04:11:42,642
to 1% of net measure m2

6573
04:11:42,642 --> 04:11:43,343
revenues; and authorize director

6574
04:11:43,343 --> 04:11:43,943
or designee to execute amendment

6575
04:11:43,943 --> 04:11:45,943
78. Oc community resources-

6576
04:11:48,582 --> 04:11:50,982
select and approve respondent

6577
04:11:52,519 --> 04:11:53,186
-- we have no requests to speak

6578
04:11:53,186 --> 04:11:54,821
on agenda item 77

6579
04:11:54,821 --> 04:11:57,390
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is

6580
04:11:57,390 --> 04:11:58,257
an all-district item.

6581
04:11:58,257 --> 04:11:58,758
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

6582
04:11:58,758 --> 04:11:59,393
the item.

6583
04:11:59,393 --> 04:12:00,359
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

6584
04:12:00,359 --> 04:12:02,759
seconded. Any objection. Item

6585
04:12:04,297 --> 04:12:04,931
is approved. 78, please.

6586
04:12:04,931 --> 04:12:06,931
78. Oc community resources-

6587
04:12:10,370 --> 04:12:10,970
select and approve respondent

6588
04:12:10,970 --> 04:12:11,705
and alternate respondent from

6589
04:12:11,705 --> 04:12:12,405
solicitation ranking results

6590
04:12:12,405 --> 04:12:13,173
list for tree care maintenance

6591
04:12:13,173 --> 04:12:13,940
services; approve model contract

6592
04:12:13,940 --> 04:12:14,774
012-2964102-eb with selected

6593
04:12:14,774 --> 04:12:15,442
respondent, 9/1/26-8/31/29

6594
04:12:15,442 --> 04:12:16,309
($10,080,000); renewable for one

6595
04:12:16,309 --> 04:12:17,210
additional two-year term;

6596
04:12:17,210 --> 04:12:18,110
authorize county procurement

6597
04:12:18,110 --> 04:12:18,778
officer or deputized deputy to

6598
04:12:18,778 --> 04:12:19,579
negotiate and execute contract

6599
04:12:19,579 --> 04:12:20,446
under certain conditions; and

6600
04:12:20,446 --> 04:12:21,248
make california environmental

6601
04:12:21,248 --> 04:12:23,648
quality act (Ceqa) Findings

6602
04:12:24,618 --> 04:12:26,386
under ceqa guidelines section 15304

6603
04:12:26,386 --> 04:12:28,688
we have no requests to speak on

6604
04:12:28,688 --> 04:12:30,688
agenda item 78..

6605
04:12:31,240 --> 04:12:34,240
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

6606
04:12:34,270 --> 04:12:36,270
all-district item

6607
04:12:36,290 --> 04:12:36,663
>>janet nguyen: I'll move it,

6608
04:12:36,663 --> 04:12:39,663
MR. CHAIRMAN, and the selection

6609
04:12:40,670 --> 04:12:43,300
would be with west coast

6610
04:12:43,300 --> 04:12:44,605
arborist, inc.. And then

6611
04:12:44,605 --> 04:12:45,639
mariposa tree management, inc.

6612
04:12:45,639 --> 04:12:47,410
For a second

6613
04:12:47,410 --> 04:12:49,441
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

6614
04:12:49,476 --> 04:12:52,476
Been moved and seconded. Any

6615
04:12:57,510 --> 04:13:00,510
objection to those -- sorry.

6616
04:13:00,788 --> 04:13:01,655
You have a recusal. Okay. So

6617
04:13:01,655 --> 04:13:05,192
noted, and with that, the item

6618
04:13:05,192 --> 04:13:05,926
is approved. Item 79, please.

6619
04:13:05,926 --> 04:13:06,627
>>clerk, robin stieler: 79.

6620
04:13:06,627 --> 04:13:07,528
Under oc public works-award

6621
04:13:07,528 --> 04:13:08,195
contract ma-080-26011040 to R.J.

6622
04:13:08,195 --> 04:13:08,896
Noble company for las flores

6623
04:13:08,896 --> 04:13:09,797
gateway improvements and

6624
04:13:09,797 --> 04:13:10,531
pavement rehabilitation project,

6625
04:13:10,531 --> 04:13:11,298
160 working day term

6626
04:13:11,298 --> 04:13:12,990
($15,783,498); authorize

6627
04:13:12,990 --> 04:13:12,767
director or designee to execute

6628
04:13:12,767 --> 04:13:13,634
contract; and make california

6629
04:13:13,634 --> 04:13:14,435
environmental quality act (Ceqa)

6630
04:13:14,435 --> 04:13:15,201
Exemption findings under ceqa

6631
04:13:15,201 --> 04:13:17,201
guidelines sections 15301

6632
04:13:19,473 --> 04:13:21,473
and 15302

6633
04:13:22,343 --> 04:13:23,210
we have no requests to speak on

6634
04:13:23,210 --> 04:13:24,210
agenda item 79..

6635
04:13:24,210 --> 04:13:26,814
>>chair, doug chaffee: I believe

6636
04:13:26,814 --> 04:13:28,616
we have a recusal again from

6637
04:13:28,616 --> 04:13:29,350
supervisor wagner. This is a

6638
04:13:29,350 --> 04:13:30,150
district 5 item.

6639
04:13:30,150 --> 04:13:33,150
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

6640
04:13:34,200 --> 04:13:35,322
move the item..

6641
04:13:35,322 --> 04:13:36,924
>>chair, doug chaffee: is there

6642
04:13:36,924 --> 04:13:38,291
any selection here.

6643
04:13:38,291 --> 04:13:40,930
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: no,

6644
04:13:40,930 --> 04:13:40,894
just for rj noble.

6645
04:13:40,894 --> 04:13:42,363
>>chair, doug chaffee: I will

6646
04:13:42,363 --> 04:13:43,930
second it. Any objection,

6647
04:13:43,930 --> 04:13:46,330
noting the abstention? Thank

6648
04:13:46,367 --> 04:13:47,100
you. Item 80, please.

6649
04:13:47,100 --> 04:13:47,768
>>clerk, robin stieler: 80.

6650
04:13:47,768 --> 04:13:48,468
Under oc public works-approve

6651
04:13:48,468 --> 04:13:49,136
oc civic center parking

6652
04:13:49,136 --> 04:13:49,837
maintenance fund 828 budget for

6653
04:13:49,837 --> 04:13:50,870
civic center area operating

6654
04:13:50,870 --> 04:13:51,605
costs, taxes/fees and projects,

6655
04:13:51,605 --> 04:13:53,400
fy 2026-27 ($7,886,000);

6656
04:13:53,400 --> 04:13:54,407
authorize auditor-

6657
04:13:54,407 --> 04:13:55,409
controller to make related

6658
04:13:55,409 --> 04:13:57,511
payments; and make california

6659
04:13:57,511 --> 04:13:59,460
environmental quality act (Ceqa)

6660
04:13:59,460 --> 04:14:01,446
Exemption findings under ceqa

6661
04:14:02,283 --> 04:14:04,283
guidelines section 15301

6662
04:14:04,552 --> 04:14:06,987
we have no requests to speak on

6663
04:14:06,987 --> 04:14:07,588
agenda item 80.

6664
04:14:07,588 --> 04:14:10,588
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

6665
04:14:12,893 --> 04:14:14,327
district 2 item. It's been

6666
04:14:14,327 --> 04:14:14,762
moved and seconded. Supervisor

6667
04:14:14,762 --> 04:14:15,395
foley, any comments.

6668
04:14:15,395 --> 04:14:17,431
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.

6669
04:14:17,431 --> 04:14:21,310
I have a question. It looks

6670
04:14:21,268 --> 04:14:24,605
like in the staffer report that

6671
04:14:24,605 --> 04:14:28,205
this is the civic center parking

6672
04:14:28,842 --> 04:14:31,842
maintenance, and there is a

6673
04:14:32,280 --> 04:14:34,549
six-month preserve -- reserves?

6674
04:14:34,549 --> 04:14:39,349
Is there a reason why we have to

6675
04:14:41,188 --> 04:14:44,188
have six months of reserves?

6676
04:14:47,940 --> 04:14:47,528
I'm not sure who to ask.

6677
04:14:47,528 --> 04:14:48,463
MR. Onuma or --

6678
04:14:48,463 --> 04:14:50,863
>>michelle aguirre: zack is

6679
04:14:51,265 --> 04:14:53,367
coming up. I'm assuming it's

6680
04:14:53,367 --> 04:14:55,803
related to a specific project

6681
04:14:55,803 --> 04:14:58,172
but zack can clarify

6682
04:14:58,172 --> 04:14:59,207
>>speaker: yes, I'm the

6683
04:14:59,207 --> 04:15:00,607
administrative deputy director

6684
04:15:00,607 --> 04:15:01,943
for orange county public works.

6685
04:15:01,943 --> 04:15:03,211
We discussed with the city of

6686
04:15:03,211 --> 04:15:05,679
santa ana given -- during covid,

6687
04:15:05,679 --> 04:15:07,281
we head several capital projects

6688
04:15:07,281 --> 04:15:09,817
that were being off-set at the

6689
04:15:09,817 --> 04:15:10,451
same time that our revenue was

6690
04:15:10,451 --> 04:15:11,386
decreasing due to lack of

6691
04:15:11,386 --> 04:15:13,354
parking. So during that time,

6692
04:15:13,354 --> 04:15:14,255
we decreased the reserves down

6693
04:15:14,255 --> 04:15:17,255
to three months. We discussed

6694
04:15:17,425 --> 04:15:18,725
during this operational cycle,

6695
04:15:18,725 --> 04:15:19,760
having excess money, bringing it

6696
04:15:19,760 --> 04:15:20,394
back up to a six-month level.

6697
04:15:20,394 --> 04:15:22,630
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

6698
04:15:22,630 --> 04:15:23,464
Thank you.

6699
04:15:23,464 --> 04:15:24,398
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's been

6700
04:15:24,398 --> 04:15:26,500
moved and seconded. Any

6701
04:15:26,500 --> 04:15:28,803
objection? Seeing none, tempt

6702
04:15:28,803 --> 04:15:29,470
is approved. 81, please.

6703
04:15:29,470 --> 04:15:30,237
>>clerk, robin stieler: 81.

6704
04:15:30,237 --> 04:15:30,904
Under oc public works-award

6705
04:15:30,904 --> 04:15:31,573
contract ma-080-26011250 to abm

6706
04:15:31,573 --> 04:15:32,339
building solutions, llc for

6707
04:15:32,339 --> 04:15:32,940
construction manager at-risk

6708
04:15:32,940 --> 04:15:33,540
construction phase services,

6709
04:15:33,540 --> 04:15:34,208
health care agency-madero new

6710
04:15:34,208 --> 04:15:35,750
heating, ventilation, and air

6711
04:15:35,750 --> 04:15:35,909
conditioning plant project,

6712
04:15:35,909 --> 04:15:37,110
250-day term ($1,885,000);

6713
04:15:37,110 --> 04:15:38,413
authorize director or designee

6714
04:15:38,413 --> 04:15:41,413
to execute contract; and make

6715
04:15:47,880 --> 04:15:49,880
related budget adjustments

6716
04:15:49,457 --> 04:15:51,725
this require as 4/5ths vote of

6717
04:15:51,725 --> 04:15:53,461
the members present. We have no

6718
04:15:53,461 --> 04:15:53,635
requests to speak on agenda item

6719
04:15:53,635 --> 04:15:55,635
81.

6720
04:15:55,696 --> 04:15:56,397
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

6721
04:15:56,397 --> 04:15:57,931
district 3 item.

6722
04:15:57,931 --> 04:15:58,166
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

6723
04:15:58,166 --> 04:15:58,799
second.

6724
04:15:58,799 --> 04:16:00,135
>>chair, doug chaffee: motion

6725
04:16:00,135 --> 04:16:02,300
carries unanimously, which

6726
04:16:02,300 --> 04:16:04,300
satisfies that requirement.

6727
04:16:04,439 --> 04:16:05,239
Item 82, please.

6728
04:16:05,239 --> 04:16:05,906
>>clerk, robin stieler: 82.

6729
04:16:05,906 --> 04:16:06,807
Under oc public works-approve

6730
04:16:06,807 --> 04:16:07,541
contracts with qualified

6731
04:16:07,541 --> 04:16:08,243
contractors for

6732
04:16:08,243 --> 04:16:09,344
architect-engineer task

6733
04:16:09,344 --> 04:16:10,144
order roadway and bikeway

6734
04:16:10,144 --> 04:16:10,778
services, three-year terms

6735
04:16:10,778 --> 04:16:11,378
($2,700,000 each; aggregate

6736
04:16:11,378 --> 04:16:12,130
total $16,200,000); and

6737
04:16:12,130 --> 04:16:14,413
authorize director or designee

6738
04:16:14,916 --> 04:16:16,916
to execute contracts

6739
04:16:17,786 --> 04:16:18,687
we have no requests to speak on

6740
04:16:18,687 --> 04:16:19,388
agenda item 82.

6741
04:16:19,388 --> 04:16:21,560
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

6742
04:16:21,560 --> 04:16:23,560
all-district item

6743
04:16:23,570 --> 04:16:23,491
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

6744
04:16:23,491 --> 04:16:24,926
the item.

6745
04:16:24,926 --> 04:16:25,260
>>chair, doug chaffee: are there

6746
04:16:25,260 --> 04:16:26,429
vendors here.

6747
04:16:26,429 --> 04:16:28,290
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: there

6748
04:16:28,290 --> 04:16:29,564
are six vendors that are

6749
04:16:29,564 --> 04:16:31,232
indicated. We're just moving

6750
04:16:31,232 --> 04:16:31,398
all six, correct?

6751
04:16:31,398 --> 04:16:32,566
.

6752
04:16:32,566 --> 04:16:34,970
>>chair, doug chaffee: I think

6753
04:16:34,970 --> 04:16:37,873
that's right. Is there any -- I

6754
04:16:37,873 --> 04:16:40,208
don't see anybody saying no.

6755
04:16:40,208 --> 04:16:41,243
All right. Th been moved and

6756
04:16:41,243 --> 04:16:43,643
seconded. Seeing no objection,

6757
04:16:44,110 --> 04:16:44,678
item 82 is approved. 83,

6758
04:16:44,678 --> 04:16:45,413
please.

6759
04:16:45,413 --> 04:16:46,181
>>clerk, robin stieler: 83.

6760
04:16:46,181 --> 04:16:46,848
Under oc public works-approve

6761
04:16:46,848 --> 04:16:47,616
subordinate contract

6762
04:16:47,616 --> 04:16:48,282
ma-080-25011203 with johnson

6763
04:16:48,282 --> 04:16:49,170
controls fire protection lp for

6764
04:16:49,170 --> 04:16:49,684
facility security & fire

6765
04:16:49,684 --> 04:16:50,452
sprinkler systems, equipment and

6766
04:16:50,452 --> 04:16:51,153
related services, 7/1/26

6767
04:16:51,153 --> 04:16:51,853
-3/31/27 ($1,335,277);

6768
04:16:51,853 --> 04:16:52,654
authorize county procurement

6769
04:16:52,654 --> 04:16:53,321
officer or deputized designee to

6770
04:16:53,321 --> 04:16:54,188
execute contract; and make

6771
04:16:54,188 --> 04:16:55,424
california environmental quality

6772
04:16:55,424 --> 04:16:57,824
act (Ceqa) Exemption findings

6773
04:17:03,980 --> 04:17:05,466
under ceqa guidelines section 15301

6774
04:17:05,466 --> 04:17:06,301
we have no requests to speak on

6775
04:17:06,301 --> 04:17:07,802
agenda item 83

6776
04:17:07,802 --> 04:17:08,636
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

6777
04:17:08,636 --> 04:17:09,971
all-district item.

6778
04:17:09,971 --> 04:17:10,771
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

6779
04:17:10,771 --> 04:17:12,374
the item.

6780
04:17:12,374 --> 04:17:13,374
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

6781
04:17:13,374 --> 04:17:15,509
seconded. Any objection in

6782
04:17:15,509 --> 04:17:15,943
seeing none, item is approved.

6783
04:17:15,943 --> 04:17:16,544
84, please.

6784
04:17:16,544 --> 04:17:17,178
>>clerk, robin stieler: 84.

6785
04:17:17,178 --> 04:17:17,813
Under oc public works-acting

6786
04:17:17,813 --> 04:17:18,413
as orange county flood control

6787
04:17:18,413 --> 04:17:18,946
district-approve amendment 1

6788
04:17:18,946 --> 04:17:19,613
to cooperative agreement

6789
04:17:19,613 --> 04:17:20,415
ma-080-25011369 with southern

6790
04:17:20,415 --> 04:17:21,883
california regional rail

6791
04:17:21,883 --> 04:17:22,517
authority for san juan creek

6792
04:17:22,517 --> 04:17:24,517
bridge replacement project

6793
04:17:24,719 --> 04:17:26,719
($800,000; cumulative total $2,800,000)

6794
04:17:26,987 --> 04:17:27,889
we have no requests to speak on

6795
04:17:27,889 --> 04:17:29,390
agenda item 84.

6796
04:17:29,390 --> 04:17:30,191
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

6797
04:17:30,191 --> 04:17:31,459
district 5 item.

6798
04:17:31,459 --> 04:17:31,726
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

6799
04:17:31,726 --> 04:17:32,893
the item.

6800
04:17:32,893 --> 04:17:34,950
>>chair, doug chaffee: I will

6801
04:17:34,950 --> 04:17:37,950
second the item. Any objection?

6802
04:17:37,131 --> 04:17:37,999
Motion carries. All right, 85,

6803
04:17:37,999 --> 04:17:38,867
please.

6804
04:17:38,867 --> 04:17:39,533
>>clerk, robin stieler: 85.

6805
04:17:39,533 --> 04:17:40,201
Under oc public works-acting

6806
04:17:40,201 --> 04:17:40,868
as board of supervisors and

6807
04:17:40,868 --> 04:17:41,703
orange county flood control

6808
04:17:41,703 --> 04:17:43,370
district-approve amendment 1

6809
04:17:43,370 --> 04:17:43,971
to renew aggregate contracts

6810
04:17:43,971 --> 04:17:45,373
ma-080-23010821 with airdev,

6811
04:17:45,373 --> 04:17:46,574
inc. And efficient bpm llc for

6812
04:17:46,574 --> 04:17:47,475
maintenance management

6813
04:17:47,475 --> 04:17:48,276
integration services, 8/16/26-

6814
04:17:48,276 --> 04:17:48,943
8/15/28 ($700,000; cumulative

6815
04:17:48,943 --> 04:17:49,678
aggregate total $1,750,000); and

6816
04:17:49,678 --> 04:17:50,811
authorize county procurement

6817
04:17:50,811 --> 04:17:53,811
officer or deputized designee to

6818
04:17:53,916 --> 04:17:55,916
execute amendments

6819
04:17:56,985 --> 04:17:57,718
we have no requests to speak on

6820
04:17:57,718 --> 04:17:59,220
agenda item 85..

6821
04:17:59,220 --> 04:18:00,550
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is

6822
04:18:00,550 --> 04:18:00,756
an all-district item.

6823
04:18:00,756 --> 04:18:03,725
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

6824
04:18:03,725 --> 04:18:04,627
the item..

6825
04:18:04,627 --> 04:18:05,528
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

6826
04:18:05,528 --> 04:18:06,962
seconded. Any objection?

6827
04:18:06,962 --> 04:18:09,962
Seeing none, item is approved.

6828
04:18:10,650 --> 04:18:10,766
We go on to 86, please.

6829
04:18:10,766 --> 04:18:11,467
>>clerk, robin stieler: 86.

6830
04:18:11,467 --> 04:18:12,201
Under oc waste & recycling-

6831
04:18:12,201 --> 04:18:12,934
approve amendment 3 to contract

6832
04:18:12,934 --> 04:18:13,602
ma-299-25010112 with geosyntec

6833
04:18:13,602 --> 04:18:14,303
consultants, inc. For landfill

6834
04:18:14,303 --> 04:18:15,300
regulatory support services

6835
04:18:15,300 --> 04:18:15,704
($122,000; cumulative total

6836
04:18:15,704 --> 04:18:16,405
$2,372,000); and authorize

6837
04:18:16,405 --> 04:18:17,720
county procurement officer or

6838
04:18:17,720 --> 04:18:17,773
deputized designee to make minor

6839
04:18:17,773 --> 04:18:20,173
changes under certain conditions

6840
04:18:21,977 --> 04:18:23,612
and execute amendment

6841
04:18:23,612 --> 04:18:25,347
and we have no requests to speak

6842
04:18:25,347 --> 04:18:26,615
on agenda item 86..

6843
04:18:26,615 --> 04:18:29,615
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

6844
04:18:31,887 --> 04:18:34,287
all-district item. I will

6845
04:18:35,900 --> 04:18:38,900
second it. Any objection? The

6846
04:18:38,660 --> 04:18:39,328
motion carries. Item 87,

6847
04:18:39,328 --> 04:18:39,995
please.

6848
04:18:39,995 --> 04:18:40,695
>>clerk, robin stieler: 87.

6849
04:18:40,695 --> 04:18:41,397
Under oc waste & recycling-

6850
04:18:41,397 --> 04:18:42,960
approve amendment 3 to contract

6851
04:18:42,960 --> 04:18:42,898
ma-299-23011446 with promax

6852
04:18:42,898 --> 04:18:43,531
personnel, llc for temporary

6853
04:18:43,531 --> 04:18:44,332
help for landfill laborer,

6854
04:18:44,332 --> 04:18:44,967
7/18/26-7/17/28 ($2,400,000,

6855
04:18:44,967 --> 04:18:45,633
cumulative total $4,565,000);

6856
04:18:45,633 --> 04:18:46,300
approve amendment 4 to renew

6857
04:18:46,300 --> 04:18:46,969
contract ma-299-23011436 with

6858
04:18:46,969 --> 04:18:47,636
promax personnel, llc for

6859
04:18:47,636 --> 04:18:48,303
temporary help for fee station

6860
04:18:48,303 --> 04:18:49,170
attendant, 9/25/26-9/24/28

6861
04:18:49,170 --> 04:18:50,271
($340,000; cumulative total

6862
04:18:50,271 --> 04:18:51,390
$940,000); and authorize county

6863
04:18:51,390 --> 04:18:52,340
procurement officer or deputized

6864
04:18:52,340 --> 04:18:53,308
designee to make minor changes

6865
04:18:53,308 --> 04:18:55,708
under certain conditions and

6866
04:18:58,880 --> 04:19:00,880
execute amendments

6867
04:19:01,820 --> 04:19:03,451
and we have no requests to speak

6868
04:19:03,451 --> 04:19:04,520
on agenda item 87..

6869
04:19:04,520 --> 04:19:05,953
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

6870
04:19:05,953 --> 04:19:07,989
district 3, 4, and 5 item. I

6871
04:19:07,989 --> 04:19:08,790
will move for approval. Moved

6872
04:19:08,790 --> 04:19:11,190
and seconded. Any objection?

6873
04:19:11,426 --> 04:19:12,940
Item is approved. 88, please.

6874
04:19:12,940 --> 04:19:12,761
>>clerk, robin stieler: 88.

6875
04:19:12,761 --> 04:19:13,495
Under oc waste & recycling-

6876
04:19:13,495 --> 04:19:14,162
approve contract ma-299-26010687

6877
04:19:14,162 --> 04:19:14,897
with helix environmental

6878
04:19:14,897 --> 04:19:15,564
planning, inc. For landscape

6879
04:19:15,564 --> 04:19:16,298
maintenance for native plant

6880
04:19:16,298 --> 04:19:16,999
habitat management, south region

6881
04:19:16,999 --> 04:19:17,833
landfills, 9/1/26-8/31/29

6882
04:19:17,833 --> 04:19:18,600
($6,757,500); renewable for one

6883
04:19:18,600 --> 04:19:19,434
additional two-year term; and

6884
04:19:19,434 --> 04:19:20,168
authorize county procurement

6885
04:19:20,168 --> 04:19:20,869
officer or deputized designee to

6886
04:19:20,869 --> 04:19:23,269
make minor changes under

6887
04:19:27,176 --> 04:19:29,744
certain conditions and execute contract

6888
04:19:29,744 --> 04:19:31,413
we have no requests to speak on

6889
04:19:31,413 --> 04:19:32,714
agenda item 88..

6890
04:19:32,714 --> 04:19:35,490
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

6891
04:19:35,490 --> 04:19:36,551
district 3 and 5 item..

6892
04:19:36,551 --> 04:19:36,785
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

6893
04:19:36,785 --> 04:19:38,687
second.

6894
04:19:38,687 --> 04:19:38,953
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

6895
04:19:38,953 --> 04:19:39,554
objection.

6896
04:19:39,554 --> 04:19:40,455
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'd

6897
04:19:40,455 --> 04:19:41,257
like to make a comment.

6898
04:19:41,257 --> 04:19:41,457
>>chair, doug chaffee: go

6899
04:19:41,457 --> 04:19:42,691
ahead.

6900
04:19:42,691 --> 04:19:44,226
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: given

6901
04:19:44,226 --> 04:19:45,995
the concerns expressed about use

6902
04:19:45,995 --> 04:19:47,362
of herbicides, I want to mention

6903
04:19:47,362 --> 04:19:48,731
for the public there's multiple

6904
04:19:48,731 --> 04:19:51,131
mentions throughout the contract

6905
04:19:51,701 --> 04:19:55,301
that no herbicides will be used

6906
04:19:55,638 --> 04:19:58,638
in public areas including five

6907
04:19:58,774 --> 04:20:01,711
foot buffer around trails and

6908
04:20:01,711 --> 04:20:03,412
only applied to specific

6909
04:20:03,412 --> 04:20:05,812
invasive non-native species at

6910
04:20:06,482 --> 04:20:07,350
this location. Thank you..

6911
04:20:07,350 --> 04:20:08,985
>>chair, doug chaffee: did we

6912
04:20:08,985 --> 04:20:09,785
get a second on this

6913
04:20:09,785 --> 04:20:11,530
>>clerk, robin stieler: yes.

6914
04:20:11,530 --> 04:20:13,990
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

6915
04:20:13,990 --> 04:20:16,390
seconded. Any objection? 88 is

6916
04:20:16,626 --> 04:20:17,326
approved. 89, please.

6917
04:20:17,326 --> 04:20:17,959
>>clerk, robin stieler: 89.

6918
04:20:17,959 --> 04:20:18,694
Under oc waste & recycling-

6919
04:20:18,694 --> 04:20:19,361
approve amendment 2 to contracts

6920
04:20:19,361 --> 04:20:20,162
ma-299-22011312 with tetra tech

6921
04:20:20,162 --> 04:20:20,930
bas, inc. ($3,606,255;

6922
04:20:20,930 --> 04:20:21,930
cumulative total $11,759,876)

6923
04:20:21,930 --> 04:20:22,865
And ma-299-22011322 with swt

6924
04:20:22,865 --> 04:20:23,733
engineering, inc. ($99,957;

6925
04:20:23,733 --> 04:20:24,634
cumulative total $360,049),

6926
04:20:24,634 --> 04:20:25,635
terms ending 7/30/27; and

6927
04:20:25,635 --> 04:20:26,636
approve change order 6 to

6928
04:20:26,636 --> 04:20:27,403
contract ma-299-24010124 with

6929
04:20:27,403 --> 04:20:28,136
sukut construction, llc,

6930
04:20:28,136 --> 04:20:29,438
($9,819,459; cumulative

6931
04:20:29,438 --> 04:20:30,305
total $98,741,594), 1,185-day

6932
04:20:30,305 --> 04:20:31,474
term, for prima zone 4 phase a

6933
04:20:31,474 --> 04:20:32,441
mass excavation and liner

6934
04:20:32,441 --> 04:20:33,475
project; and authorize director

6935
04:20:33,475 --> 04:20:34,343
or designee, under delegated

6936
04:20:34,343 --> 04:20:35,877
authority from oc public works,

6937
04:20:35,877 --> 04:20:38,277
to execute amendments and

6938
04:20:40,182 --> 04:20:42,182
contract change order

6939
04:20:42,384 --> 04:20:43,919
we have no requests to speak on

6940
04:20:43,919 --> 04:20:44,519
agenda item 89..

6941
04:20:44,519 --> 04:20:47,519
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

6942
04:20:49,558 --> 04:20:50,225
district 5 item. Go ahead and

6943
04:20:50,225 --> 04:20:51,260
make your comments.

6944
04:20:51,260 --> 04:20:53,329
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

6945
04:20:53,329 --> 04:20:56,364
you, MR. CHAIRMAN. This item is

6946
04:20:56,364 --> 04:20:58,567
brought to us because of a need

6947
04:20:58,567 --> 04:21:01,567
for an additional funding for

6948
04:21:02,304 --> 04:21:03,805
the contract due to some

6949
04:21:03,805 --> 04:21:05,440
geological concerns and the

6950
04:21:05,440 --> 04:21:09,400
approval of this is as it

6951
04:21:09,945 --> 04:21:13,215
relates to making sure that we

6952
04:21:13,215 --> 04:21:16,318
are not having the ground water

6953
04:21:16,318 --> 04:21:17,953
impacted. Unforeseen geological

6954
04:21:17,953 --> 04:21:18,687
conditions required additional

6955
04:21:18,687 --> 04:21:21,687
work and additional time for

6956
04:21:22,224 --> 04:21:22,859
this project..

6957
04:21:22,859 --> 04:21:23,126
>>chair, doug chaffee: did I get

6958
04:21:23,126 --> 04:21:24,930
a second

6959
04:21:24,930 --> 04:21:27,930
>>clerk, robin stieler: no. We

6960
04:21:27,463 --> 04:21:28,130
still need a second..

6961
04:21:28,130 --> 04:21:29,965
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

6962
04:21:29,965 --> 04:21:32,201
seconded. Any objection? Item

6963
04:21:32,201 --> 04:21:32,802
89 is approved. We go on to 90

6964
04:21:32,802 --> 04:21:33,403
please.

6965
04:21:33,403 --> 04:21:34,137
>>clerk, robin stieler: 90.

6966
04:21:34,137 --> 04:21:34,904
Under probation-approve

6967
04:21:34,904 --> 04:21:35,572
memorandum of understanding

6968
04:21:35,572 --> 04:21:36,172
(Mou) Between county of orange,

6969
04:21:36,172 --> 04:21:36,873
orange county probation

6970
04:21:36,873 --> 04:21:37,574
department, and superior court

6971
04:21:37,574 --> 04:21:38,241
of california, county of orange

6972
04:21:38,241 --> 04:21:38,975
for sb 129 pretrial release

6973
04:21:38,975 --> 04:21:39,576
program, 7/1/26-6/30/27; and

6974
04:21:39,576 --> 04:21:40,344
authorize county executive

6975
04:21:40,344 --> 04:21:42,744
officer and chief probation

6976
04:21:51,487 --> 04:21:53,589
officer or designee to execute mou

6977
04:21:53,589 --> 04:21:54,757
and we have no requests to speak

6978
04:21:54,757 --> 04:21:56,920
on agenda item 90.

6979
04:21:56,920 --> 04:21:58,328
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

6980
04:21:58,328 --> 04:22:00,263
all-district item. Moved and

6981
04:22:00,263 --> 04:22:02,265
seconded. Any objection? Item

6982
04:22:02,265 --> 04:22:02,966
90 is approved. 91, please.

6983
04:22:02,966 --> 04:22:04,330
>>clerk, robin stieler: 91.

6984
04:22:04,330 --> 04:22:04,968
Under registrar of voters-

6985
04:22:04,968 --> 04:22:06,690
approve contract ma-031-26011329

6986
04:22:06,690 --> 04:22:07,103
with dmt solutions global

6987
04:22:07,103 --> 04:22:07,871
corporation dba bluecrest for

6988
04:22:07,871 --> 04:22:08,604
hardware maintenance on document

6989
04:22:08,604 --> 04:22:09,572
messaging technologies

6990
04:22:09,572 --> 04:22:11,574
sorters, inserters and server

6991
04:22:11,574 --> 04:22:13,974
and software licensing and

6992
04:22:14,900 --> 04:22:15,512
maintenance, 8/12/26-8/11/31

6993
04:22:15,512 --> 04:22:16,546
($2,532,741); and authorize

6994
04:22:16,546 --> 04:22:17,646
county procurement officer or

6995
04:22:17,646 --> 04:22:18,781
deputized designee to exercise

6996
04:22:18,781 --> 04:22:20,820
cost contingency increase not to

6997
04:22:20,820 --> 04:22:22,820
exceed 10% under certain

6998
04:22:26,210 --> 04:22:27,990
conditions and execute contract.

6999
04:22:27,990 --> 04:22:31,590
And MR. Chair, we received three

7000
04:22:34,630 --> 04:22:38,230
requests to speak on agenda item

7001
04:22:38,334 --> 04:22:40,734
91. Lisa h, kate, and

7002
04:22:55,117 --> 04:22:57,117
california precinct activators.

7003
04:22:57,553 --> 04:22:59,553
>>speaker: hi, supervisors.

7004
04:23:00,689 --> 04:23:03,890
Just california election's code

7005
04:23:06,830 --> 04:23:08,364
18568 neighbors a crime -- it's

7006
04:23:08,364 --> 04:23:10,364
only 1 minute.

7007
04:23:10,366 --> 04:23:10,833
>>chair, doug chaffee: no

7008
04:23:10,833 --> 04:23:12,350
interruptions, please

7009
04:23:12,350 --> 04:23:14,437
>>speaker: please, could I have

7010
04:23:14,437 --> 04:23:16,837
my time? California elections

7011
04:23:18,241 --> 04:23:21,780
code 18568 neighbors a crime to

7012
04:23:21,780 --> 04:23:22,712
aid in changing or destroying an

7013
04:23:22,712 --> 04:23:25,112
official ballot, to wrongfully

7014
04:23:26,550 --> 04:23:28,485
remove ballots or to willfully

7015
04:23:28,485 --> 04:23:30,287
detrain, mutilate or destroy

7016
04:23:30,287 --> 04:23:31,455
ballots or election returns,

7017
04:23:31,455 --> 04:23:33,623
violations can be charged as

7018
04:23:33,623 --> 04:23:35,623
felonies. We're replacing

7019
04:23:35,826 --> 04:23:36,760
machines that were slicing the

7020
04:23:36,760 --> 04:23:39,160
envelopes and slicing the

7021
04:23:39,463 --> 04:23:42,699
ballots in half at one time. We

7022
04:23:42,699 --> 04:23:45,000
as citizen observers asked the

7023
04:23:45,000 --> 04:23:46,536
registrar of voters if we could

7024
04:23:46,536 --> 04:23:48,772
witness this in the room. This

7025
04:23:48,772 --> 04:23:50,974
is not an observable place. We

7026
04:23:50,974 --> 04:23:52,609
weren't allowed to look at this.

7027
04:23:52,609 --> 04:23:55,145
I just request that since he's

7028
04:23:55,145 --> 04:23:57,213
your appointee, that we make a

7029
04:23:57,213 --> 04:23:58,348
change to the rotation then, but

7030
04:23:58,348 --> 04:23:59,549
we need to fix the problem.

7031
04:23:59,549 --> 04:24:00,116
Thank you

7032
04:24:00,116 --> 04:24:02,516
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

7033
04:24:05,756 --> 04:24:07,456
you. Next speaker, please.

7034
04:24:07,456 --> 04:24:09,856
>>speaker: good morning, board.

7035
04:24:10,494 --> 04:24:12,894
So one-day voting, paper

7036
04:24:15,980 --> 04:24:17,134
ballots, no mail-in ballots. So

7037
04:24:17,134 --> 04:24:20,170
this is kind of a joke. Over 91

7038
04:24:20,170 --> 04:24:22,606
ways for you to steal more

7039
04:24:22,606 --> 04:24:25,107
money, all of you are despicable

7040
04:24:25,107 --> 04:24:28,107
but nothing will change your

7041
04:24:28,544 --> 04:24:30,880
behavior. The $2.5 million is

7042
04:24:30,880 --> 04:24:32,482
because you had ballots ripped

7043
04:24:32,482 --> 04:24:34,917
by machines designed to open

7044
04:24:34,917 --> 04:24:37,917
them. If the general population

7045
04:24:38,540 --> 04:24:41,654
would stop voting by mail, all

7046
04:24:42,391 --> 04:24:45,194
of this would not be needed. As

7047
04:24:45,194 --> 04:24:47,594
long as every politician,

7048
04:24:47,764 --> 04:24:49,764
political party, government

7049
04:24:50,266 --> 04:24:53,303
stooge -- as you are --

7050
04:24:53,303 --> 04:24:55,380
continues to support mail-in

7051
04:24:55,380 --> 04:24:58,638
ballots, we will -- this will

7052
04:24:59,475 --> 04:25:02,446
continue, and we will waste more

7053
04:25:02,446 --> 04:25:04,846
taxpayer money. One-day voting,

7054
04:25:07,218 --> 04:25:08,151
paper ballots, id. Thank you

7055
04:25:08,151 --> 04:25:09,454
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

7056
04:25:09,454 --> 04:25:13,540
you, ma'am. MAY we have the

7057
04:25:14,525 --> 04:25:16,394
next special please.

7058
04:25:16,394 --> 04:25:17,528
>>speaker: bob page is currently

7059
04:25:17,528 --> 04:25:18,729
under investigations by the

7060
04:25:18,729 --> 04:25:21,129
department of justice. The

7061
04:25:22,333 --> 04:25:25,333
united states versus page for

7062
04:25:26,870 --> 04:25:29,870
not complying with -- and

7063
04:25:31,800 --> 04:25:33,408
continuing on with unredacted

7064
04:25:34,745 --> 04:25:37,581
data. Why are we even

7065
04:25:37,581 --> 04:25:38,582
entertaining for the taxpayers

7066
04:25:38,582 --> 04:25:40,251
of orange county to spend

7067
04:25:40,251 --> 04:25:42,651
another $2.5 million when we

7068
04:25:43,953 --> 04:25:45,990
have a -- we currently have the

7069
04:25:45,990 --> 04:25:46,557
registrar voter bob page under

7070
04:25:46,557 --> 04:25:47,857
federal investigation by the

7071
04:25:47,857 --> 04:25:50,227
department of justice? You can

7072
04:25:50,227 --> 04:25:52,395
guys please answer that? Why we

7073
04:25:52,395 --> 04:25:54,764
would be entertaining anything

7074
04:25:54,764 --> 04:25:56,700
from the registrar of voters bob

7075
04:25:56,700 --> 04:25:59,303
page. Can any of you answer

7076
04:25:59,303 --> 04:26:02,473
that? Why do we even have this

7077
04:26:02,473 --> 04:26:04,675
as an agenda item? Voter fraud

7078
04:26:04,675 --> 04:26:07,750
is rampant. One-day voting.

7079
04:26:07,710 --> 04:26:10,110
One-day counting. No mail-in

7080
04:26:10,713 --> 04:26:12,416
ballots. This is destroying our

7081
04:26:12,416 --> 04:26:14,500
country. And this is just on

7082
04:26:14,500 --> 04:26:16,186
record here for the voters of

7083
04:26:16,186 --> 04:26:16,887
orange county. Thank you very

7084
04:26:16,887 --> 04:26:18,521
much.

7085
04:26:18,521 --> 04:26:20,324
>>clerk, robin stieler: no

7086
04:26:20,324 --> 04:26:20,890
further speakers, MR. Chair.

7087
04:26:20,890 --> 04:26:22,359
>>chair, doug chaffee: again

7088
04:26:22,359 --> 04:26:23,761
this is an all-district item. I

7089
04:26:23,761 --> 04:26:24,729
think we had a motion, but I

7090
04:26:24,729 --> 04:26:26,297
didn't hear a second

7091
04:26:26,297 --> 04:26:27,464
>>vincente sarmiento: second.

7092
04:26:27,464 --> 04:26:29,990
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

7093
04:26:29,990 --> 04:26:31,201
seconded. Any objection? Item

7094
04:26:31,201 --> 04:26:31,835
91 is approved. 92 please.

7095
04:26:31,835 --> 04:26:32,569
>>clerk, robin stieler: 92.

7096
04:26:32,569 --> 04:26:33,937
Under social services agency-

7097
04:26:33,937 --> 04:26:34,971
approve amendment 1 to renew

7098
04:26:34,971 --> 04:26:35,639
master contract ma-063-23010975

7099
04:26:35,639 --> 04:26:37,400
and individual contract with

7100
04:26:37,400 --> 04:26:37,307
hopskipdrive, inc. For

7101
04:26:37,307 --> 04:26:38,275
children'

7102
04:26:38,275 --> 04:26:39,776
s school of origin and

7103
04:26:39,776 --> 04:26:41,440
foster youth transportation

7104
04:26:41,440 --> 04:26:42,479
services, 7/1/26-6/30/28

7105
04:26:42,479 --> 04:26:43,347
($950,000; aggregate cumulative

7106
04:26:43,347 --> 04:26:45,347
total $2,975,000); and

7107
04:26:45,348 --> 04:26:46,116
authorize county procurement

7108
04:26:46,116 --> 04:26:46,850
officer or deputized designee to

7109
04:26:46,850 --> 04:26:47,685
execute amendments and

7110
04:26:47,685 --> 04:26:48,419
accept claims-made sexual

7111
04:26:48,419 --> 04:26:50,419
misconduct liability insurance

7112
04:26:51,922 --> 04:26:53,591
under certain conditions

7113
04:26:53,591 --> 04:26:56,795
we have no requests to speak on

7114
04:26:56,795 --> 04:26:58,795
agenda item 92.

7115
04:26:58,796 --> 04:26:58,996
>>vincente sarmiento: move the

7116
04:26:58,996 --> 04:26:59,631
item.

7117
04:26:59,631 --> 04:27:01,532
>>chair, doug chaffee: is there

7118
04:27:01,532 --> 04:27:02,100
a second? Supervisor foley, you

7119
04:27:02,100 --> 04:27:03,735
have a comment.

7120
04:27:03,735 --> 04:27:05,436
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.

7121
04:27:05,436 --> 04:27:07,705
So I am very concerned about

7122
04:27:07,705 --> 04:27:08,539
this, and I know we already have

7123
04:27:08,539 --> 04:27:12,139
this contract, but I want to

7124
04:27:12,744 --> 04:27:14,444
make sure that as procurement

7125
04:27:14,444 --> 04:27:17,444
looks at the new solicitation,

7126
04:27:17,681 --> 04:27:20,718
maybe we need to get with c zack

7127
04:27:20,718 --> 04:27:24,155
and sort of survey what other

7128
04:27:24,155 --> 04:27:27,155
counties are paying for these

7129
04:27:28,225 --> 04:27:31,825
services because a base rate of

7130
04:27:35,299 --> 04:27:38,201
$43 for a ride from where a

7131
04:27:38,201 --> 04:27:39,169
child is living, whether it's in

7132
04:27:39,169 --> 04:27:42,769
orangewood or a family home, and

7133
04:27:49,514 --> 04:27:50,514
to school, plus $2.95 per mile,

7134
04:27:50,514 --> 04:27:52,149
that seems extraordinary to me.

7135
04:27:52,149 --> 04:27:55,749
And it appears that the average

7136
04:27:58,288 --> 04:28:01,888
ride is about 10 miles so we

7137
04:28:02,193 --> 04:28:04,593
paid about $444,000 last year

7138
04:28:05,630 --> 04:28:07,630
for approximately 440 rides.

7139
04:28:07,497 --> 04:28:09,434
And so it just seems

7140
04:28:09,434 --> 04:28:10,601
extraordinary to be paying this

7141
04:28:10,601 --> 04:28:13,371
much. And I feel like it's

7142
04:28:13,371 --> 04:28:15,720
because no one ever asks or

7143
04:28:15,720 --> 04:28:16,673
pushes back, and they have just

7144
04:28:16,673 --> 04:28:19,430
a monopoly on this type of

7145
04:28:19,430 --> 04:28:21,245
service. So I hope that we will

7146
04:28:21,245 --> 04:28:23,547
try to negotiate a better deal

7147
04:28:23,547 --> 04:28:24,381
for the county. Of course, we

7148
04:28:24,381 --> 04:28:27,284
want children to be transported

7149
04:28:27,284 --> 04:28:29,720
safely with all of the, you

7150
04:28:29,720 --> 04:28:31,121
know, lifescan and background

7151
04:28:31,121 --> 04:28:33,521
checks and the appropriate

7152
04:28:34,292 --> 04:28:36,494
insurance. But I can't seem to

7153
04:28:36,494 --> 04:28:38,162
get a itemization of what those

7154
04:28:38,162 --> 04:28:40,198
costs are. So as we move into

7155
04:28:40,198 --> 04:28:42,467
the next solicitation, I hope we

7156
04:28:42,467 --> 04:28:44,680
can be a little bit more

7157
04:28:44,680 --> 04:28:45,704
aggressive in negotiating down

7158
04:28:45,704 --> 04:28:47,305
these fees..

7159
04:28:47,305 --> 04:28:49,674
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

7160
04:28:49,674 --> 04:28:51,543
you. Did we get a motion?

7161
04:28:51,543 --> 04:28:53,378
>>clerk, robin stieler: a motion

7162
04:28:53,378 --> 04:28:54,412
by supervisor sarmiento, but I

7163
04:28:54,412 --> 04:28:56,381
didn't hear a second

7164
04:28:56,381 --> 04:28:59,351
>>chair, doug chaffee: we have a

7165
04:28:59,351 --> 04:28:59,584
motion, any objection? Item is

7166
04:28:59,584 --> 04:29:00,840
approved

7167
04:29:00,840 --> 04:29:01,853
>>clerk, robin stieler:

7168
04:29:01,853 --> 04:29:02,860
MR. Chair, who seconded the

7169
04:29:02,860 --> 04:29:02,687
motion.

7170
04:29:02,687 --> 04:29:03,321
>>chair, doug chaffee: me

7171
04:29:03,321 --> 04:29:05,900
>>clerk, robin stieler: thank

7172
04:29:05,900 --> 04:29:05,690
you very much

7173
04:29:05,690 --> 04:29:08,900
>>chair, doug chaffee: that's

7174
04:29:09,927 --> 04:29:10,528
correct please.

7175
04:29:10,528 --> 04:29:11,161
>>clerk, robin stieler: 93.

7176
04:29:11,161 --> 04:29:11,796
Under social services agency-

7177
04:29:11,796 --> 04:29:12,364
approve contract

7178
04:29:12,364 --> 04:29:12,864
ma-063-260101048 with the

7179
04:29:12,864 --> 04:29:13,565
regents of the

7180
04:29:13,565 --> 04:29:14,265
university of california, on

7181
04:29:14,265 --> 04:29:15,000
behalf of uci university

7182
04:29:15,000 --> 04:29:15,700
physicians & surgeons, uci

7183
04:29:15,700 --> 04:29:16,334
department of psychiatry for

7184
04:29:16,334 --> 04:29:17,101
sexual abuse counseling

7185
04:29:17,101 --> 04:29:17,802
services, 7/1/26-6/30/29

7186
04:29:17,802 --> 04:29:18,603
($4,725,000); renewable for one

7187
04:29:18,603 --> 04:29:19,304
additional two-year term; and

7188
04:29:19,304 --> 04:29:20,271
authorize county procurement

7189
04:29:20,271 --> 04:29:21,720
officer or deputized designee to

7190
04:29:21,720 --> 04:29:21,839
exercise cost contingency

7191
04:29:21,839 --> 04:29:22,539
increase not to exceed 10% under

7192
04:29:22,539 --> 04:29:24,939
certain conditions and execute

7193
04:29:25,409 --> 04:29:27,409
contract

7194
04:29:27,812 --> 04:29:28,579
and we have no requests to speak

7195
04:29:28,579 --> 04:29:29,247
on agenda item 93.

7196
04:29:29,247 --> 04:29:32,247
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

7197
04:29:32,552 --> 04:29:33,685
district 2 item moved and

7198
04:29:33,685 --> 04:29:36,850
seconded. Any objection? Item

7199
04:29:36,187 --> 04:29:36,821
is approved. 94, please.

7200
04:29:36,821 --> 04:29:37,488
>>clerk, robin stieler: 94.

7201
04:29:37,488 --> 04:29:38,189
Under social services agency-

7202
04:29:38,189 --> 04:29:38,824
approve amendment 2 to renew

7203
04:29:38,824 --> 04:29:39,624
master agreement cps0221-00 for

7204
04:29:39,624 --> 04:29:40,457
drug testing services

7205
04:29:40,457 --> 04:29:42,457
($1,600,000; aggregate total

7206
04:29:43,994 --> 04:29:44,929
$9,600,000); approve amendment 5

7207
04:29:44,929 --> 04:29:46,197
to agreements csp00221-01 with

7208
04:29:46,197 --> 04:29:46,932
associates in counseling and

7209
04:29:46,932 --> 04:29:47,565
mediation, cps0221-02 with e&j

7210
04:29:47,565 --> 04:29:49,533
medical services, cps0221-03

7211
04:29:49,533 --> 04:29:50,469
with scram of california, inc.,

7212
04:29:50,469 --> 04:29:51,837
amendment 2 to agreement

7213
04:29:51,837 --> 04:29:52,771
cps0221-05 with dms services,

7214
04:29:52,771 --> 04:29:54,380
inc. And amendment 1 to contract

7215
04:29:54,380 --> 04:29:55,307
ma-063-25011169 with redwood

7216
04:29:55,307 --> 04:29:56,841
toxicology laboratory, inc. For

7217
04:29:56,841 --> 04:29:58,375
drug testing services, 7/1/26-

7218
04:29:58,375 --> 04:29:59,910
6/30/27; and authorize county

7219
04:29:59,910 --> 04:30:02,310
procurement officer or deputized

7220
04:30:03,281 --> 04:30:05,484
designee to execute amendments

7221
04:30:05,484 --> 04:30:08,453
and we have no requests to speak

7222
04:30:08,453 --> 04:30:09,954
on agenda item 94..

7223
04:30:09,954 --> 04:30:10,688
>>chair, doug chaffee: is there

7224
04:30:10,688 --> 04:30:11,323
any motion.

7225
04:30:11,323 --> 04:30:11,656
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: move

7226
04:30:11,656 --> 04:30:13,224
the item

7227
04:30:13,224 --> 04:30:13,825
>>vincente sarmiento: second.

7228
04:30:13,825 --> 04:30:15,192
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

7229
04:30:15,192 --> 04:30:15,794
Moved and seconded. Any

7230
04:30:15,794 --> 04:30:18,194
objection? Item is approved.

7231
04:30:20,650 --> 04:30:21,433
Now we go to our supplements.

7232
04:30:21,433 --> 04:30:25,370
I'm going to ask the clerk to

7233
04:30:25,370 --> 04:30:28,370
start with supplements 94a, l,

7234
04:30:40,819 --> 04:30:41,620
m, and y.

7235
04:30:41,620 --> 04:30:42,454
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94a.

7236
04:30:42,454 --> 04:30:43,287
Under chair chaffee-approve

7237
04:30:43,287 --> 04:30:44,121
allocation of $23,350 from

7238
04:30:44,121 --> 04:30:45,570
fourth district discretionary

7239
04:30:45,570 --> 04:30:45,991
funds to homeless intervention

7240
04:30:45,991 --> 04:30:46,924
services of orange county for

7241
04:30:46,924 --> 04:30:47,859
roof replacement project; make

7242
04:30:47,859 --> 04:30:48,827
related findings under

7243
04:30:48,827 --> 04:30:49,828
government code section 26227;

7244
04:30:49,828 --> 04:30:50,596
authorize county executive

7245
04:30:50,596 --> 04:30:51,462
officer or designee to negotiate

7246
04:30:51,462 --> 04:30:52,297
and enter into agreement as

7247
04:30:52,297 --> 04:30:53,164
necessary; and authorize

7248
04:30:53,164 --> 04:30:55,164
auditor-controller or designee

7249
04:31:09,114 --> 04:31:10,615
to make related payments

7250
04:31:10,615 --> 04:31:12,150
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94l.

7251
04:31:12,150 --> 04:31:13,317
Under chair chaffee-approve

7252
04:31:13,317 --> 04:31:14,318
allocation of $250,000 from

7253
04:31:14,318 --> 04:31:15,119
fourth district discretionary

7254
04:31:15,119 --> 04:31:15,920
funds to support city of

7255
04:31:15,920 --> 04:31:16,722
stanton's norm ross sports

7256
04:31:16,722 --> 04:31:17,722
complex for youth sports access

7257
04:31:17,722 --> 04:31:18,689
and community health

7258
04:31:18,689 --> 04:31:19,691
improvement; make related

7259
04:31:19,691 --> 04:31:20,793
findings under government code

7260
04:31:20,793 --> 04:31:21,894
section 26227; authorize

7261
04:31:21,894 --> 04:31:22,827
county executive officer or

7262
04:31:22,827 --> 04:31:23,729
designee to negotiate and enter

7263
04:31:23,729 --> 04:31:24,997
into agreement as necessary; and

7264
04:31:24,997 --> 04:31:26,997
authorize auditor-controller or

7265
04:31:37,809 --> 04:31:38,744
designee to make related payments

7266
04:31:38,744 --> 04:31:40,145
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94m.

7267
04:31:40,145 --> 04:31:41,313
Under chair chaffee-approve

7268
04:31:41,313 --> 04:31:42,447
sponsorship of various nonprofit

7269
04:31:42,447 --> 04:31:43,448
entities from fourth district

7270
04:31:43,448 --> 04:31:44,248
events funds; approve addition

7271
04:31:44,248 --> 04:31:45,283
or revision of events to fy

7272
04:31:45,283 --> 04:31:46,318
2025-26 county events calendar;

7273
04:31:46,318 --> 04:31:47,285
make related findings under

7274
04:31:47,285 --> 04:31:48,186
government code section 26227;

7275
04:31:48,186 --> 04:31:50,186
and authorize auditor-controller

7276
04:32:07,720 --> 04:32:07,707
to make related payments

7277
04:32:07,707 --> 04:32:08,340
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94y.

7278
04:32:08,340 --> 04:32:09,141
Under chair chaffee-approve

7279
04:32:09,141 --> 04:32:09,841
allocation of $5,000 from fourth

7280
04:32:09,841 --> 04:32:10,609
district discretionary funds to

7281
04:32:10,609 --> 04:32:11,376
brea chamber of commerce for

7282
04:32:11,376 --> 04:32:12,244
women rising leadership academy;

7283
04:32:12,244 --> 04:32:13,112
make related findings under

7284
04:32:13,112 --> 04:32:13,946
government code section 26227;

7285
04:32:13,946 --> 04:32:14,814
authorize county executive

7286
04:32:14,814 --> 04:32:15,647
officer or designee to negotiate

7287
04:32:15,647 --> 04:32:16,515
and enter into agreement as

7288
04:32:16,515 --> 04:32:17,783
necessary; and authorize

7289
04:32:17,783 --> 04:32:19,783
auditor-controller or designee

7290
04:32:28,270 --> 04:32:29,428
to make related payments

7291
04:32:29,428 --> 04:32:32,428
let me just double-check. I

7292
04:32:32,665 --> 04:32:33,732
don't think I have any speakers

7293
04:32:33,732 --> 04:32:36,335
requests. We have no requests

7294
04:32:36,335 --> 04:32:36,602
to speak on those items,

7295
04:32:36,602 --> 04:32:37,369
MR. Chair

7296
04:32:37,369 --> 04:32:39,400
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

7297
04:32:39,400 --> 04:32:39,671
you. MADAM Clerk, I will move

7298
04:32:39,671 --> 04:32:40,439
all of those items.

7299
04:32:40,439 --> 04:32:40,673
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

7300
04:32:40,673 --> 04:32:42,673
second.

7301
04:32:43,409 --> 04:32:45,110
>>chair, doug chaffee: second.

7302
04:32:45,110 --> 04:32:46,612
Any objection? Those items are

7303
04:32:46,612 --> 04:32:49,612
approved. I'd like to go

7304
04:32:53,384 --> 04:32:54,180
supplements 94b, d, and h.

7305
04:32:54,180 --> 04:32:54,619
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94b.

7306
04:32:54,619 --> 04:32:55,253
Under supervisor wagner-

7307
04:32:55,253 --> 04:32:55,920
approve allocation of $50,000

7308
04:32:55,920 --> 04:32:56,422
from third district

7309
04:32:56,422 --> 04:32:57,155
discretionary funds to

7310
04:32:57,155 --> 04:32:57,856
oc parks for fish stocking and

7311
04:32:57,856 --> 04:32:58,524
fishing derby at irvine lake;

7312
04:32:58,524 --> 04:32:59,224
make related findings under

7313
04:32:59,224 --> 04:33:00,920
government code section 26227;

7314
04:33:00,920 --> 04:33:00,859
authorize county executive

7315
04:33:00,859 --> 04:33:01,726
officer or designee to negotiate

7316
04:33:01,726 --> 04:33:02,595
and enter into agreement as

7317
04:33:02,595 --> 04:33:03,428
necessary; and authorize

7318
04:33:03,428 --> 04:33:05,428
auditor-controller or designee

7319
04:33:37,229 --> 04:33:37,996
to make related payments

7320
04:33:37,996 --> 04:33:38,730
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94d.

7321
04:33:38,730 --> 04:33:39,364
Under supervisor wagner-

7322
04:33:39,364 --> 04:33:40,650
approve allocation of $18,500

7323
04:33:40,650 --> 04:33:40,733
from third district

7324
04:33:40,733 --> 04:33:41,466
discretionary funds to

7325
04:33:41,466 --> 04:33:42,670
crescent elementary pta for

7326
04:33:42,670 --> 04:33:43,436
creation of student wellness

7327
04:33:43,436 --> 04:33:44,303
space at crescent elementary school,

7328
04:33:44,303 --> 04:33:44,936
anaheim hills; make related

7329
04:33:44,936 --> 04:33:45,570
findings under government code

7330
04:33:45,570 --> 04:33:46,238
section 26227; authorize county

7331
04:33:46,238 --> 04:33:46,906
executive officer or designee to

7332
04:33:46,906 --> 04:33:47,506
negotiate and enter into

7333
04:33:47,506 --> 04:33:48,173
agreement as necessary; and

7334
04:33:48,173 --> 04:33:50,173
authorize auditor-controller or

7335
04:34:00,319 --> 04:34:00,986
designee to make related payments

7336
04:34:00,986 --> 04:34:01,654
s94h. Supervisor wagner-

7337
04:34:01,654 --> 04:34:02,355
approve allocation of $300,000

7338
04:34:02,355 --> 04:34:03,550
from third district

7339
04:34:03,550 --> 04:34:03,756
discretionary funds to

7340
04:34:03,756 --> 04:34:04,423
veteran strong usa to expand

7341
04:34:04,423 --> 04:34:04,957
services and support for orange

7342
04:34:04,957 --> 04:34:05,658
county veterans and their

7343
04:34:05,658 --> 04:34:06,292
families; make related findings

7344
04:34:06,292 --> 04:34:06,959
under government code section

7345
04:34:06,959 --> 04:34:07,727
26227; authorize county

7346
04:34:07,727 --> 04:34:08,294
executive officer or designee to

7347
04:34:08,294 --> 04:34:08,895
negotiate and enter into

7348
04:34:08,895 --> 04:34:09,561
agreement as necessary; and

7349
04:34:09,561 --> 04:34:11,561
authorize auditor-controller or

7350
04:34:12,465 --> 04:34:15,301
designee to make related payments

7351
04:34:15,301 --> 04:34:16,336
and we have no requests to speak

7352
04:34:16,336 --> 04:34:18,336
on those items.

7353
04:34:18,337 --> 04:34:19,539
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

7354
04:34:19,539 --> 04:34:21,939
seconded. Any objection? Those

7355
04:34:23,276 --> 04:34:26,276
items are approved. 94n through

7356
04:34:36,555 --> 04:34:37,323
u as well as supplement 94bb.

7357
04:34:37,323 --> 04:34:38,423
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94n.

7358
04:34:38,423 --> 04:34:39,424
Under vice chair foley-approve

7359
04:34:39,424 --> 04:34:40,158
allocation of $50,000 from fifth

7360
04:34:40,158 --> 04:34:40,994
district discretionary funds to

7361
04:34:40,994 --> 04:34:41,694
city of laguna beach for a

7362
04:34:41,694 --> 04:34:42,394
helopod2; make related findings

7363
04:34:42,394 --> 04:34:43,950
under government code section

7364
04:34:43,950 --> 04:34:43,929
26227; authorize county

7365
04:34:43,929 --> 04:34:44,731
executive officer or designee to

7366
04:34:44,731 --> 04:34:45,465
negotiate and enter into

7367
04:34:45,465 --> 04:34:46,164
agreement as necessary; and

7368
04:34:46,164 --> 04:34:48,164
authorize auditor-controller or

7369
04:34:57,900 --> 04:34:58,577
designee to make related payments

7370
04:34:58,577 --> 04:34:59,444
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94o.

7371
04:34:59,444 --> 04:35:00,946
Under vice chair foley-approve

7372
04:35:00,946 --> 04:35:02,281
allocation of $5,000 from fifth

7373
04:35:02,281 --> 04:35:03,282
district discretionary funds to

7374
04:35:03,282 --> 04:35:04,616
environmental nature center for

7375
04:35:04,616 --> 04:35:05,517
the traveling naturalist

7376
04:35:05,517 --> 04:35:06,318
program; make related findings

7377
04:35:06,318 --> 04:35:07,386
under government code section

7378
04:35:07,386 --> 04:35:08,353
26227; authorize county

7379
04:35:08,353 --> 04:35:09,688
executive officer or designee to

7380
04:35:09,688 --> 04:35:11,290
negotiate and enter into

7381
04:35:11,290 --> 04:35:12,225
agreement as necessary; and

7382
04:35:12,225 --> 04:35:14,225
authorize auditor-controller or

7383
04:35:18,230 --> 04:35:19,899
designee to make related payments

7384
04:35:19,899 --> 04:35:20,800
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94p.

7385
04:35:20,800 --> 04:35:21,601
Under vice chair foley-approve

7386
04:35:21,601 --> 04:35:22,368
allocation of $25,000 from fifth

7387
04:35:22,368 --> 04:35:23,168
district discretionary funds to

7388
04:35:23,168 --> 04:35:23,970
pacific chorale for music

7389
04:35:23,970 --> 04:35:24,837
education programming; make

7390
04:35:24,837 --> 04:35:25,604
related findings under

7391
04:35:25,604 --> 04:35:26,839
government code section 26227;

7392
04:35:26,839 --> 04:35:27,840
authorize county executive

7393
04:35:27,840 --> 04:35:28,908
officer or designee to negotiate

7394
04:35:28,908 --> 04:35:30,800
and enter into agreement as

7395
04:35:30,800 --> 04:35:31,430
necessary; and authorize

7396
04:35:31,430 --> 04:35:33,430
auditor-controller or designee

7397
04:35:40,954 --> 04:35:42,210
to make related payments

7398
04:35:42,210 --> 04:35:42,755
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94q.

7399
04:35:42,755 --> 04:35:43,624
Under vice chair foley-approve

7400
04:35:43,624 --> 04:35:44,424
allocation of $10,000 from fifth

7401
04:35:44,424 --> 04:35:45,225
district discretionary funds to

7402
04:35:45,225 --> 04:35:45,892
newport harbor lawn bowling

7403
04:35:45,892 --> 04:35:46,593
association for clubhouse

7404
04:35:46,593 --> 04:35:47,360
facility repairs; make related

7405
04:35:47,360 --> 04:35:48,940
findings under government code

7406
04:35:48,940 --> 04:35:48,995
section 26227; authorize county

7407
04:35:48,995 --> 04:35:49,863
executive officer or designee to

7408
04:35:49,863 --> 04:35:51,131
negotiate and enter into

7409
04:35:51,131 --> 04:35:53,531
agreement as necessary; and

7410
04:35:57,370 --> 04:35:59,370
authorize auditor-controller or

7411
04:36:04,770 --> 04:36:06,580
designee to make related payments

7412
04:36:06,580 --> 04:36:08,582
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94r.

7413
04:36:08,582 --> 04:36:10,517
Under vice chair foley-approve

7414
04:36:10,517 --> 04:36:11,485
allocation of $37,000 from fifth

7415
04:36:11,485 --> 04:36:13,787
district discretionary funds to

7416
04:36:13,787 --> 04:36:14,620
boys & girls club of laguna

7417
04:36:14,620 --> 04:36:15,421
beach for the jazz up the gym

7418
04:36:15,421 --> 04:36:16,388
project; make related findings

7419
04:36:16,388 --> 04:36:17,390
under government code section

7420
04:36:17,390 --> 04:36:18,358
26227; authorize county

7421
04:36:18,358 --> 04:36:19,225
executive officer or designee to

7422
04:36:19,225 --> 04:36:20,159
negotiate and enter into

7423
04:36:20,159 --> 04:36:21,940
agreement as necessary; and

7424
04:36:21,940 --> 04:36:23,940
authorize auditor-controller or

7425
04:36:27,134 --> 04:36:27,900
designee to make related payments

7426
04:36:27,900 --> 04:36:28,702
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94s.

7427
04:36:28,702 --> 04:36:29,668
Under vice chair foley-approve

7428
04:36:29,668 --> 04:36:31,538
allocation of $8,500 from fifth

7429
04:36:31,538 --> 04:36:32,705
district discretionary funds to

7430
04:36:32,705 --> 04:36:33,573
newport-mesa schools foundation

7431
04:36:33,573 --> 04:36:34,841
for grants to teachers program;

7432
04:36:34,841 --> 04:36:35,941
make related findings under

7433
04:36:35,941 --> 04:36:36,909
government code section 26227;

7434
04:36:36,909 --> 04:36:37,744
authorize county executive

7435
04:36:37,744 --> 04:36:38,744
officer or designee to negotiate

7436
04:36:38,744 --> 04:36:40,146
and enter into agreement as

7437
04:36:40,146 --> 04:36:41,214
necessary; and authorize

7438
04:36:41,214 --> 04:36:43,214
auditor-controller or designee

7439
04:36:52,250 --> 04:36:54,425
to make related payments

7440
04:36:55,528 --> 04:36:56,930
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94t.

7441
04:36:56,930 --> 04:36:57,997
Under vice chair foley-approve

7442
04:36:57,997 --> 04:36:59,465
allocation of $250,000 from

7443
04:36:59,465 --> 04:37:01,367
fifth district discretionary

7444
04:37:01,367 --> 04:37:03,767
funds to planned parenthood

7445
04:37:06,439 --> 04:37:07,741
orange and san bernardino

7446
04:37:07,741 --> 04:37:09,809
counties, inc. For contraceptive

7447
04:37:09,809 --> 04:37:12,209
access; make related findings

7448
04:37:12,512 --> 04:37:14,747
under government code section

7449
04:37:14,747 --> 04:37:15,748
26227; authorize county

7450
04:37:15,748 --> 04:37:18,652
executive officer or designee to

7451
04:37:18,652 --> 04:37:21,520
negotiate and enter into

7452
04:37:21,121 --> 04:37:21,788
agreement as necessary; and

7453
04:37:21,788 --> 04:37:23,788
authorize auditor-controller or

7454
04:37:25,926 --> 04:37:27,260
designee to make related payments

7455
04:37:27,260 --> 04:37:27,928
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94u.

7456
04:37:27,928 --> 04:37:28,595
Under vice chair foley-approve

7457
04:37:28,595 --> 04:37:30,995
allocation of $6,000 from fifth

7458
04:37:33,670 --> 04:37:33,700
district discretionary funds to

7459
04:37:33,700 --> 04:37:34,301
san clemente elks lodge #2068

7460
04:37:34,301 --> 04:37:35,368
for pendleton pantry 2; make

7461
04:37:35,368 --> 04:37:36,170
related findings under

7462
04:37:36,170 --> 04:37:37,637
government code section 26227;

7463
04:37:37,637 --> 04:37:39,439
authorize county executive

7464
04:37:39,439 --> 04:37:40,400
officer or designee to negotiate

7465
04:37:40,400 --> 04:37:41,141
and enter into agreement as

7466
04:37:41,141 --> 04:37:41,909
necessary; and authorize

7467
04:37:41,909 --> 04:37:43,909
auditor-controller or designee

7468
04:37:55,556 --> 04:37:56,189
to make related payments

7469
04:37:56,189 --> 04:37:56,857
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94bb.

7470
04:37:56,857 --> 04:37:57,524
Under vice chair foley-approve

7471
04:37:57,524 --> 04:37:58,157
sponsorship of various nonprofit

7472
04:37:58,157 --> 04:37:58,925
entities from fifth district

7473
04:37:58,925 --> 04:37:59,693
events funds; approve addition

7474
04:37:59,693 --> 04:38:00,594
or revision of events to fy

7475
04:38:00,594 --> 04:38:01,428
2026-27 county events calendar;

7476
04:38:01,428 --> 04:38:02,629
make related findings under

7477
04:38:02,629 --> 04:38:03,597
government code section 26227;

7478
04:38:03,597 --> 04:38:05,597
and authorize auditor-controller

7479
04:38:13,173 --> 04:38:14,700
to make related payments

7480
04:38:14,700 --> 04:38:16,909
MR. Chair, we've received two

7481
04:38:16,909 --> 04:38:17,911
requests to speak on s94t.

7482
04:38:17,911 --> 04:38:19,579
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm

7483
04:38:19,579 --> 04:38:21,448
sorry, which?

7484
04:38:21,448 --> 04:38:21,948
>>clerk, robin stieler: 94t.

7485
04:38:21,948 --> 04:38:22,548
Two requests.

7486
04:38:22,548 --> 04:38:24,751
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

7487
04:38:24,751 --> 04:38:26,190
Please call those speakers

7488
04:38:26,190 --> 04:38:29,190
>>clerk, robin stieler: kate and

7489
04:38:31,658 --> 04:38:33,658
california precinct activators.

7490
04:38:34,495 --> 04:38:35,629
>>speaker: good morning. I

7491
04:38:35,629 --> 04:38:38,290
think planned parenthood really

7492
04:38:38,531 --> 04:38:41,531
supports women and girls, first

7493
04:38:42,903 --> 04:38:45,303
of all. Planned parenthood

7494
04:38:45,673 --> 04:38:47,673
consistently opposes informed

7495
04:38:49,275 --> 04:38:52,178
consent laws, and they call it

7496
04:38:52,178 --> 04:38:55,215
biased or a barrier to abortion.

7497
04:38:55,215 --> 04:38:57,215
Planned parenthood encourages

7498
04:38:58,652 --> 04:39:00,787
sex selection abortion. Planned

7499
04:39:00,787 --> 04:39:02,989
parenthood lobbies in favor of

7500
04:39:02,989 --> 04:39:05,389
child marriage. Yes, child

7501
04:39:05,559 --> 04:39:08,559
marriage, and at least 48 minors

7502
04:39:09,163 --> 04:39:12,163
have been subjected to marriage

7503
04:39:16,137 --> 04:39:19,137
practices since 2017 to avoid a

7504
04:39:20,874 --> 04:39:23,277
loophole, to avoid pros cushion

7505
04:39:23,277 --> 04:39:25,412
for statutory rape. Under --

7506
04:39:25,412 --> 04:39:27,812
there was an undercover

7507
04:39:28,349 --> 04:39:30,483
investigation in 2011 where the

7508
04:39:30,483 --> 04:39:32,883
planned parenthood employee not

7509
04:39:34,555 --> 04:39:35,456
only failed to report suspected

7510
04:39:35,456 --> 04:39:36,290
sex trafficking.

7511
04:39:36,290 --> 04:39:38,459
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

7512
04:39:38,459 --> 04:39:40,694
you, your time is up

7513
04:39:40,694 --> 04:39:42,363
>>speaker: this should be a "no"

7514
04:39:42,363 --> 04:39:44,532
vote for planned parenthood.

7515
04:39:44,532 --> 04:39:44,745
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

7516
04:39:44,745 --> 04:39:46,745
you.

7517
04:39:46,834 --> 04:39:47,535
>>clerk, robin stieler:

7518
04:39:47,535 --> 04:39:49,350
MR. Chair, after california

7519
04:39:49,350 --> 04:39:51,435
precinct activators, there is

7520
04:39:52,105 --> 04:39:53,807
one more speaker, ale

7521
04:39:53,807 --> 04:39:55,809
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

7522
04:39:55,809 --> 04:39:57,611
call that speaker

7523
04:39:57,611 --> 04:40:00,381
>>speaker: okay, maximum law, he

7524
04:40:00,381 --> 04:40:01,481
who is in the womb is considered

7525
04:40:01,481 --> 04:40:04,481
born whenever his benefit is

7526
04:40:05,319 --> 04:40:07,621
concerned. Since 1973 we have

7527
04:40:07,621 --> 04:40:10,621
planned parenthood -- since roe

7528
04:40:11,993 --> 04:40:13,727
v. Wade, they have aborted 64

7529
04:40:13,727 --> 04:40:16,630
million babies. Islam is having

7530
04:40:16,630 --> 04:40:17,665
approximately 5 to 10 babies per

7531
04:40:17,665 --> 04:40:19,566
man. What do you think this

7532
04:40:19,566 --> 04:40:23,166
someplace gonna look like in a

7533
04:40:25,839 --> 04:40:29,439
few years? Okay? Now, how nice

7534
04:40:29,910 --> 04:40:32,310
to spend $250,000 of your

7535
04:40:32,713 --> 04:40:34,713
discretionary money,

7536
04:40:35,183 --> 04:40:36,350
MS. Foley -- how nice. How

7537
04:40:36,350 --> 04:40:38,219
nice. How nice. What

7538
04:40:38,219 --> 04:40:39,186
guarantees are you providing the

7539
04:40:39,186 --> 04:40:40,587
citizens -- excuse me, the

7540
04:40:40,587 --> 04:40:42,823
people of orange county that

7541
04:40:42,823 --> 04:40:45,225
this money is not going to be

7542
04:40:45,225 --> 04:40:47,561
used towards more abortions?

7543
04:40:47,561 --> 04:40:49,696
You can give us a guarantee that

7544
04:40:49,696 --> 04:40:51,933
this is only going to be used

7545
04:40:51,933 --> 04:40:53,535
for your supposed pill? Can I

7546
04:40:53,535 --> 04:40:57,135
get that in writing? By what

7547
04:40:58,720 --> 04:41:00,975
authority do you have to -- to

7548
04:41:00,975 --> 04:41:02,910
blatantly, to just callously

7549
04:41:02,910 --> 04:41:03,578
allow $250,000 of taxpayer money

7550
04:41:03,578 --> 04:41:04,345
to be spent.

7551
04:41:04,345 --> 04:41:05,780
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

7552
04:41:05,780 --> 04:41:07,882
for your comment. Okay.

7553
04:41:07,882 --> 04:41:08,116
Supervisor nguyen, had you a

7554
04:41:08,116 --> 04:41:08,683
comment

7555
04:41:08,683 --> 04:41:10,683
>>clerk, robin stieler:

7556
04:41:12,520 --> 04:41:15,520
MR. Chair, one more speaker.

7557
04:41:16,724 --> 04:41:17,959
The speaker is ale. Ale

7558
04:41:17,959 --> 04:41:20,959
>>chair, doug chaffee: is there

7559
04:41:22,697 --> 04:41:24,132
another speaker?

7560
04:41:24,132 --> 04:41:26,132
>>clerk, robin stieler:

7561
04:41:26,434 --> 04:41:27,268
speaker's not present.

7562
04:41:27,268 --> 04:41:28,100
>>chair, doug chaffee:

7563
04:41:28,100 --> 04:41:29,637
supervisor nguyen

7564
04:41:29,637 --> 04:41:32,637
>>janet nguyen: I'd like to

7565
04:41:32,640 --> 04:41:35,777
record an abstention on s94t and

7566
04:41:35,777 --> 04:41:36,276
s94bb. Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN

7567
04:41:36,276 --> 04:41:37,378
>>chair, doug chaffee:

7568
04:41:37,378 --> 04:41:39,279
supervisor wagner?

7569
04:41:39,279 --> 04:41:42,279
>>don wagner: thank you. And

7570
04:41:43,250 --> 04:41:44,752
I'm a no on 94t. Thank you..

7571
04:41:44,752 --> 04:41:46,553
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

7572
04:41:46,553 --> 04:41:48,823
move all of the items that were

7573
04:41:48,823 --> 04:41:49,424
read by the clerk.

7574
04:41:49,424 --> 04:41:50,291
>>chair, doug chaffee: noting

7575
04:41:50,291 --> 04:41:53,891
the no vote and also the

7576
04:41:54,928 --> 04:41:55,629
abstentions. Any objection?

7577
04:41:55,629 --> 04:41:56,397
>>clerk, robin stieler: we need

7578
04:41:56,397 --> 04:41:57,265
a second

7579
04:41:57,265 --> 04:41:57,831
>>vincente sarmiento: I'll

7580
04:41:57,831 --> 04:41:58,833
second it.

7581
04:41:58,833 --> 04:42:01,135
>>chair, doug chaffee: did you

7582
04:42:01,135 --> 04:42:01,769
catch all of the abstentions?

7583
04:42:01,769 --> 04:42:03,137
>>clerk, robin stieler: yes. I

7584
04:42:03,137 --> 04:42:03,704
did. Thank you very much..

7585
04:42:03,704 --> 04:42:05,639
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

7586
04:42:05,639 --> 04:42:07,174
right. So the items are

7587
04:42:07,174 --> 04:42:09,176
approved dually noting the no

7588
04:42:09,176 --> 04:42:11,479
vote and the abstentions, as

7589
04:42:11,479 --> 04:42:15,679
well. Now I'd like to move on

7590
04:42:22,489 --> 04:42:23,124
to supplement 94I.

7591
04:42:23,124 --> 04:42:23,757
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94I.

7592
04:42:23,757 --> 04:42:24,425
Approve allocation of $500,000

7593
04:42:24,425 --> 04:42:25,930
from first district

7594
04:42:25,930 --> 04:42:25,826
discretionary funds to

7595
04:42:25,826 --> 04:42:26,694
the city of garden grove for

7596
04:42:26,694 --> 04:42:28,162
residents affected by gkn

7597
04:42:28,162 --> 04:42:29,129
aerospace hazardous materials

7598
04:42:29,129 --> 04:42:30,640
incident; make related findings

7599
04:42:30,640 --> 04:42:30,898
under government code section

7600
04:42:30,898 --> 04:42:31,832
26227; authorize county

7601
04:42:31,832 --> 04:42:32,733
executive officer or designee to

7602
04:42:32,733 --> 04:42:33,435
negotiate and enter into

7603
04:42:33,435 --> 04:42:34,468
agreement as necessary; and

7604
04:42:34,468 --> 04:42:36,468
authorize auditor-controller or

7605
04:42:42,411 --> 04:42:45,411
designee to make related payments

7606
04:42:46,248 --> 04:42:46,448
we have no requests to speak on

7607
04:42:46,448 --> 04:42:47,150
s94I.

7608
04:42:47,150 --> 04:42:47,415
>>chair, doug chaffee:

7609
04:42:47,415 --> 04:42:47,983
supervisor nguyen

7610
04:42:47,983 --> 04:42:49,384
>>janet nguyen: thank you,

7611
04:42:49,384 --> 04:42:51,453
MR. CHAIRMAN. This is to

7612
04:42:51,453 --> 04:42:53,210
allocate one-time funding to the

7613
04:42:53,210 --> 04:42:54,823
city of garden grove to provide

7614
04:42:54,823 --> 04:42:57,920
relief to the residents that

7615
04:42:57,920 --> 04:42:59,261
were affected in the hazmat

7616
04:42:59,261 --> 04:43:00,595
incident. I want to make sure

7617
04:43:00,595 --> 04:43:02,497
that's publically known that I

7618
04:43:02,497 --> 04:43:06,340
too also want to make sure that

7619
04:43:06,340 --> 04:43:06,935
gkn fully reimburse and makes

7620
04:43:06,935 --> 04:43:08,470
everybody whole. This is

7621
04:43:08,470 --> 04:43:11,470
because that process could take

7622
04:43:12,907 --> 04:43:15,143
a little longer, and not that I

7623
04:43:15,143 --> 04:43:16,211
agree with that. I don't.

7624
04:43:16,211 --> 04:43:19,211
However, the last funding that

7625
04:43:20,848 --> 04:43:22,450
was given to united way, the $3

7626
04:43:22,450 --> 04:43:25,219
million within a week or so, so

7627
04:43:25,219 --> 04:43:26,721
I think this would assist and

7628
04:43:26,721 --> 04:43:28,456
help those individuals who was

7629
04:43:28,456 --> 04:43:30,591
not able to access those fund

7630
04:43:30,591 --> 04:43:33,940
ickes to get the funding

7631
04:43:33,940 --> 04:43:34,729
immediately. This is also,

7632
04:43:34,729 --> 04:43:37,732
though, to -- making sure that

7633
04:43:37,732 --> 04:43:39,667
we as a county, when we receive

7634
04:43:39,667 --> 04:43:40,736
our settlement or our

7635
04:43:40,736 --> 04:43:43,605
reimbursement from gkn, that we

7636
04:43:43,605 --> 04:43:46,400
bring this $500,000 back to make

7637
04:43:46,400 --> 04:43:47,642
it whole so that this is just

7638
04:43:47,642 --> 04:43:49,877
right now to allocate it so that

7639
04:43:49,877 --> 04:43:51,780
it can get out there immediately

7640
04:43:51,780 --> 04:43:52,814
for those residents and help.

7641
04:43:52,814 --> 04:43:54,749
And so I want to make sure that

7642
04:43:54,749 --> 04:43:56,851
this does come back and restore

7643
04:43:56,851 --> 04:43:58,954
to the funding -- to our funding

7644
04:43:58,954 --> 04:43:59,921
so that we can continue to help

7645
04:43:59,921 --> 04:44:02,189
our district. But right now I

7646
04:44:02,189 --> 04:44:03,492
want to make sure that this gets

7647
04:44:03,492 --> 04:44:04,525
out there immediately to help

7648
04:44:04,525 --> 04:44:07,495
those residents. And those who

7649
04:44:07,495 --> 04:44:09,640
received fund forecast united

7650
04:44:09,640 --> 04:44:10,598
way will not receive this

7651
04:44:10,598 --> 04:44:12,133
funding. Garden grove is

7652
04:44:12,133 --> 04:44:14,236
committed to working with united

7653
04:44:14,236 --> 04:44:14,703
way to make -- to

7654
04:44:14,703 --> 04:44:16,380
cross-reference those

7655
04:44:16,380 --> 04:44:17,339
individuals so that we can add

7656
04:44:17,339 --> 04:44:19,339
additional 1,000 more

7657
04:44:19,875 --> 04:44:22,177
individuals to help them instead

7658
04:44:22,177 --> 04:44:22,911
of giving duplicate fundings to

7659
04:44:22,911 --> 04:44:24,911
individuals. Thank you,

7660
04:44:25,247 --> 04:44:25,447
MR. CHAIRMAN. And I'll move the

7661
04:44:25,447 --> 04:44:26,150
item.

7662
04:44:26,150 --> 04:44:28,415
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

7663
04:44:28,884 --> 04:44:30,485
you. I heard a second from

7664
04:44:30,485 --> 04:44:31,387
vice-chair. Is there any

7665
04:44:31,387 --> 04:44:33,787
objection? Seeing none, thank

7666
04:44:34,690 --> 04:44:38,127
you for taking a whack at needs

7667
04:44:38,127 --> 04:44:39,661
over there for this tragedy. I

7668
04:44:39,661 --> 04:44:43,261
would like to move on to

7669
04:44:47,936 --> 04:44:49,936
supplement 94aa.

7670
04:44:50,171 --> 04:44:51,506
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94aa.

7671
04:44:51,506 --> 04:44:52,708
Approve sponsorship of various

7672
04:44:52,708 --> 04:44:53,808
nonprofit entities from second

7673
04:44:53,808 --> 04:44:55,811
district events funds; approve

7674
04:44:55,811 --> 04:44:56,779
addition or revision of events

7675
04:44:56,779 --> 04:44:57,913
to fy 2026-27 county events

7676
04:44:57,913 --> 04:44:59,315
calendar; make related findings

7677
04:44:59,315 --> 04:45:00,616
under government code section

7678
04:45:00,616 --> 04:45:02,830
26227; and authorize

7679
04:45:02,830 --> 04:45:04,830
auditor-controller to make

7680
04:45:07,890 --> 04:45:09,890
related payments

7681
04:45:14,290 --> 04:45:14,266
we have no requests to speak on

7682
04:45:14,266 --> 04:45:15,163
s94aa

7683
04:45:15,163 --> 04:45:15,364
>>vincente sarmiento: move the

7684
04:45:15,364 --> 04:45:16,564
item.

7685
04:45:16,564 --> 04:45:18,133
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going

7686
04:45:18,133 --> 04:45:20,133
to second it

7687
04:45:20,401 --> 04:45:21,337
>>janet nguyen: I'll record an

7688
04:45:21,337 --> 04:45:21,937
abstention, MR. CHAIRMAN.

7689
04:45:21,937 --> 04:45:22,937
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

7690
04:45:22,937 --> 04:45:25,808
right. The item is approved.

7691
04:45:25,808 --> 04:45:30,608
Now we're going to go back up to

7692
04:45:34,830 --> 04:45:34,716
supplement 94c.

7693
04:45:34,716 --> 04:45:35,383
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94c.

7694
04:45:35,383 --> 04:45:36,170
under county executive office-

7695
04:45:36,170 --> 04:45:36,618
appoint cornelius hericus (Kc)

7696
04:45:36,618 --> 04:45:37,453
Roestenberg as interim county

7697
04:45:37,453 --> 04:45:38,119
executive officer; approve

7698
04:45:38,119 --> 04:45:39,287
employment agreement, effective

7699
04:45:39,287 --> 04:45:40,588
6/26/26 ($430,000 annual salary

7700
04:45:40,588 --> 04:45:42,588
with total compensation $656,968

7701
04:45:43,525 --> 04:45:44,959
including benefits)

7702
04:45:44,959 --> 04:45:45,761
And we have no requests to speak

7703
04:45:45,761 --> 04:45:46,362
on this item.

7704
04:45:46,362 --> 04:45:47,863
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's an

7705
04:45:47,863 --> 04:45:49,310
all-district item. County

7706
04:45:49,310 --> 04:45:51,199
counsel I think has a comment

7707
04:45:51,199 --> 04:45:52,534
>>leon page: as the school board

7708
04:45:52,534 --> 04:45:53,468
aware, before the board takes

7709
04:45:53,468 --> 04:45:56,372
final action on the compensation

7710
04:45:56,372 --> 04:45:58,390
to be paid to a local agency

7711
04:45:58,390 --> 04:45:58,606
executive, an oral report is

7712
04:45:58,606 --> 04:46:00,208
required. In this instance

7713
04:46:00,208 --> 04:46:02,511
before you is a proposed

7714
04:46:02,511 --> 04:46:04,120
employment agreement for casey

7715
04:46:04,120 --> 04:46:05,113
rosenberg to serve as the

7716
04:46:05,113 --> 04:46:07,113
interim county executive

7717
04:46:08,484 --> 04:46:08,884
officer. Compensation is set at

7718
04:46:08,884 --> 04:46:10,884
$430,000 annually

7719
04:46:10,920 --> 04:46:13,422
, and MR. Rosenberg will receive

7720
04:46:13,422 --> 04:46:14,857
the same benefits that are

7721
04:46:14,857 --> 04:46:16,560
generally provided to other

7722
04:46:16,560 --> 04:46:18,560
executive management employees.

7723
04:46:19,528 --> 04:46:21,960
Thank you..

7724
04:46:21,960 --> 04:46:21,663
>>chair, doug chaffee:

7725
04:46:21,663 --> 04:46:22,298
vice-chair foley.

7726
04:46:22,298 --> 04:46:23,333
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

7727
04:46:23,333 --> 04:46:25,467
you, MR. CHAIRMAN. I think

7728
04:46:25,467 --> 04:46:25,701
supervisor nguyen, did you move

7729
04:46:25,701 --> 04:46:27,168
the item

7730
04:46:27,168 --> 04:46:27,904
>>janet nguyen: I did.

7731
04:46:27,904 --> 04:46:30,904
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

7732
04:46:31,541 --> 04:46:33,342
second. And I want to welcome

7733
04:46:33,342 --> 04:46:36,780
MR. Rosenberg to the positions

7734
04:46:36,780 --> 04:46:39,315
of ceo. Be careful what you ask

7735
04:46:39,315 --> 04:46:41,150
for. But MR. Rosenberg brings

7736
04:46:41,150 --> 04:46:43,352
two decades of county experience

7737
04:46:43,352 --> 04:46:45,752
and knowledge of county

7738
04:46:47,589 --> 04:46:48,890
operations. We know that's been

7739
04:46:48,890 --> 04:46:52,261
shadowing our ceo for a few

7740
04:46:52,261 --> 04:46:53,329
weeks and getting a lot of the

7741
04:46:53,329 --> 04:46:55,997
briefings under his belt. So we

7742
04:46:55,997 --> 04:46:58,997
look forward to working with

7743
04:46:59,502 --> 04:47:01,204
you. The summer is going to be

7744
04:47:01,204 --> 04:47:02,939
a lot of work to get prepared

7745
04:47:02,939 --> 04:47:05,373
for the fall. So thank you so

7746
04:47:05,373 --> 04:47:05,552
much for being willing to serve.

7747
04:47:05,552 --> 04:47:06,308
.

7748
04:47:06,308 --> 04:47:08,510
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

7749
04:47:08,510 --> 04:47:10,120
right. Thank you. I'll join

7750
04:47:10,120 --> 04:47:12,148
saying congratulations and thank

7751
04:47:12,148 --> 04:47:15,184
you for stepping pickup is there

7752
04:47:15,184 --> 04:47:18,184
any objection? Seeing none, and

7753
04:47:20,956 --> 04:47:23,956
the contract is approved. Now

7754
04:47:25,727 --> 04:47:26,362
we go to supplement 94e.

7755
04:47:26,362 --> 04:47:27,630
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94e.

7756
04:47:27,630 --> 04:47:27,796
Under vice chair foley-direct

7757
04:47:27,796 --> 04:47:28,597
oc public works staff to develop

7758
04:47:28,597 --> 04:47:30,997
public notice requirements for

7759
04:47:32,368 --> 04:47:34,360
proposed herbicide or pesticide application

7760
04:47:34,360 --> 04:47:36,405
and MR. Chair, we've received

7761
04:47:36,405 --> 04:47:38,273
two requests to speak on s94e

7762
04:47:38,273 --> 04:47:38,674
>>chair, doug chaffee: call the

7763
04:47:38,674 --> 04:47:40,674
speakers please.

7764
04:47:40,743 --> 04:47:43,143
>>clerk, robin stieler: bethany

7765
04:47:46,815 --> 04:47:49,215
helms and axle eaton.

7766
04:47:50,520 --> 04:47:51,620
>>speaker: my name is bethany

7767
04:47:51,620 --> 04:47:53,656
with creek team and I'm speaking

7768
04:47:53,656 --> 04:47:54,490
today about transparency. The

7769
04:47:54,490 --> 04:47:55,925
public has a right to know when

7770
04:47:55,925 --> 04:47:56,993
herbicides are being applied in

7771
04:47:56,993 --> 04:47:58,993
their communities. Residents

7772
04:47:59,128 --> 04:48:00,296
use creek trails every day.

7773
04:48:00,296 --> 04:48:02,265
Families walk them, children

7774
04:48:02,265 --> 04:48:03,867
play near them, dog owners,

7775
04:48:03,867 --> 04:48:05,902
cyclists, bird watchers and

7776
04:48:05,902 --> 04:48:07,269
volunteers spend countless hours

7777
04:48:07,269 --> 04:48:08,404
in these public spaces. We are

7778
04:48:08,404 --> 04:48:09,706
heard that people are not

7779
04:48:09,706 --> 04:48:11,207
supposed to be in the creeks and

7780
04:48:11,207 --> 04:48:12,542
they're not affected, yet I

7781
04:48:12,542 --> 04:48:13,877
personally documented your

7782
04:48:13,877 --> 04:48:15,877
contractor spraying vegetation

7783
04:48:16,112 --> 04:48:17,714
less than 10 feet from a public

7784
04:48:17,714 --> 04:48:19,215
trail on a windy day. This

7785
04:48:19,215 --> 04:48:20,950
absolutely affects residents.

7786
04:48:20,950 --> 04:48:22,752
This isn't just about decency.

7787
04:48:22,752 --> 04:48:24,587
This is about liability. For

7788
04:48:24,587 --> 04:48:26,723
years, residents have had no

7789
04:48:26,723 --> 04:48:28,124
idea when or where herbicides

7790
04:48:28,124 --> 04:48:29,191
were being applied. Had they

7791
04:48:29,191 --> 04:48:32,195
known, they MAY have chosen to

7792
04:48:32,195 --> 04:48:33,620
avoid those areas. Transparency

7793
04:48:33,620 --> 04:48:35,640
should not be optional. If

7794
04:48:35,640 --> 04:48:35,964
herbicides are being sprayed in

7795
04:48:35,964 --> 04:48:37,566
public space, there should be

7796
04:48:37,566 --> 04:48:39,566
clear notification through

7797
04:48:40,570 --> 04:48:41,470
signage and online disclosures.

7798
04:48:41,470 --> 04:48:43,672
It is about the public's trite

7799
04:48:43,672 --> 04:48:45,800
make informed decisions. I urge

7800
04:48:45,800 --> 04:48:46,575
the forward about vote yes on

7801
04:48:46,575 --> 04:48:47,609
public notification. This is

7802
04:48:47,609 --> 04:48:48,544
your opportunity to show the

7803
04:48:48,544 --> 04:48:50,679
public how much you actually

7804
04:48:50,679 --> 04:48:51,247
value them. Thank you..

7805
04:48:51,247 --> 04:48:52,181
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

7806
04:48:52,181 --> 04:48:55,781
you. MAY we have the next

7807
04:48:57,520 --> 04:48:59,122
speaker, please.

7808
04:48:59,122 --> 04:49:01,122
>>speaker: good afternoon,

7809
04:49:02,258 --> 04:49:05,258
supervisors. My name is axle

7810
04:49:05,694 --> 04:49:07,530
eaton. On behalf of -- in

7811
04:49:07,530 --> 04:49:09,866
regard to item 94e, this issue

7812
04:49:09,866 --> 04:49:11,680
is no longer partisan. It's

7813
04:49:11,680 --> 04:49:12,268
about public trust and basic

7814
04:49:12,268 --> 04:49:13,636
transparency. Across california

7815
04:49:13,636 --> 04:49:15,605
neighboring counties are

7816
04:49:15,605 --> 04:49:16,705
investing billions of dollars to

7817
04:49:16,705 --> 04:49:19,410
reconnect people with the rivers

7818
04:49:19,410 --> 04:49:21,877
and public spaces. Los angeles

7819
04:49:21,877 --> 04:49:23,513
has committed over $1 billion to

7820
04:49:23,513 --> 04:49:25,214
restore the L.A. River with

7821
04:49:25,214 --> 04:49:27,450
strong emphasis on reducing

7822
04:49:27,450 --> 04:49:29,180
pesticide use, improving habitat

7823
04:49:29,180 --> 04:49:31,418
and creating places where

7824
04:49:31,887 --> 04:49:32,789
families can gather with 20

7825
04:49:32,789 --> 04:49:35,726
seconds left, let's see what I

7826
04:49:35,726 --> 04:49:36,492
can show. Transparency is a

7827
04:49:36,492 --> 04:49:38,262
critical part of that future for

7828
04:49:38,262 --> 04:49:40,964
us and for you to leave a legacy

7829
04:49:40,964 --> 04:49:43,266
in orange county where people

7830
04:49:43,266 --> 04:49:45,802
can engage with their waterways.

7831
04:49:45,802 --> 04:49:48,710
In 2025, a scientific paper

7832
04:49:48,710 --> 04:49:51,710
that monsanto relied on for

7833
04:49:53,643 --> 04:49:55,100
years to safeguard the guy foss

7834
04:49:55,100 --> 04:49:57,130
say the and other pesticides

7835
04:49:57,130 --> 04:50:00,130
were not toxic has been

7836
04:50:00,284 --> 04:50:02,586
retracted. In 2026 in D.C. A

7837
04:50:02,586 --> 04:50:05,586
bill was passed to prevent

7838
04:50:05,688 --> 04:50:08,525
liability from giving -- from

7839
04:50:08,525 --> 04:50:09,459
being given to monsanto on

7840
04:50:09,459 --> 04:50:11,859
pesticides that they create.

7841
04:50:12,620 --> 04:50:14,197
This is no longer partisan.

7842
04:50:14,197 --> 04:50:16,597
This is bipartisan. I

7843
04:50:18,802 --> 04:50:20,137
respectfully ask for your report

7844
04:50:20,137 --> 04:50:20,305
on -- for your support on item

7845
04:50:20,305 --> 04:50:20,837
95.

7846
04:50:20,837 --> 04:50:21,271
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

7847
04:50:21,271 --> 04:50:21,871
right. Thank you.

7848
04:50:21,871 --> 04:50:23,373
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

7849
04:50:23,373 --> 04:50:26,108
brought this item back because

7850
04:50:26,108 --> 04:50:27,310
residents continue to ask for

7851
04:50:27,310 --> 04:50:29,278
basic transparency regarding

7852
04:50:29,278 --> 04:50:31,548
herbicides or pest islands in

7853
04:50:31,548 --> 04:50:34,548
public spaces. I have addressed

7854
04:50:34,584 --> 04:50:36,185
the -- pesticides in public

7855
04:50:36,185 --> 04:50:38,721
spaces. I take these concerns

7856
04:50:38,721 --> 04:50:41,558
very seriously, of course. So

7857
04:50:41,558 --> 04:50:44,594
this item is focused on public

7858
04:50:44,594 --> 04:50:46,896
notice, not employee deployment

7859
04:50:46,896 --> 04:50:48,699
details. It directs staff to

7860
04:50:48,699 --> 04:50:50,801
develop a responsible noticing

7861
04:50:50,801 --> 04:50:52,100
policy so residents can know the

7862
04:50:52,100 --> 04:50:53,369
product being used, the purpose,

7863
04:50:53,369 --> 04:50:54,738
the general area, the date range

7864
04:50:54,738 --> 04:50:57,608
and who to contact for

7865
04:50:57,608 --> 04:50:58,641
questions. We can provide that

7866
04:50:58,641 --> 04:51:00,144
information without disclosing

7867
04:51:00,144 --> 04:51:02,345
individual employee schedules or

7868
04:51:02,345 --> 04:51:04,745
creating unnecessary risks for

7869
04:51:05,481 --> 04:51:06,417
field staff. A public notice a

7870
04:51:06,417 --> 04:51:07,817
reasonable request and a

7871
04:51:07,817 --> 04:51:09,853
reasonable step that the county

7872
04:51:09,853 --> 04:51:11,654
can take, especially as we move

7873
04:51:11,654 --> 04:51:14,292
forward with the pilot projects

7874
04:51:14,292 --> 04:51:17,930
at san juan and trabuco creek

7875
04:51:17,930 --> 04:51:18,629
and review our integrated pest

7876
04:51:18,629 --> 04:51:20,631
management plan. I think we can

7877
04:51:20,631 --> 04:51:22,165
protect our close and still

7878
04:51:22,165 --> 04:51:24,565
instill transparency with the

7879
04:51:24,668 --> 04:51:24,868
public. With that, I move the

7880
04:51:24,868 --> 04:51:25,636
item.

7881
04:51:25,636 --> 04:51:26,871
>>chair, doug chaffee:

7882
04:51:26,871 --> 04:51:27,438
supervisor sarmiento?

7883
04:51:27,438 --> 04:51:29,106
>>vincente sarmiento: yes.

7884
04:51:29,106 --> 04:51:31,375
Thank you, MR. Chair. You know,

7885
04:51:31,375 --> 04:51:32,443
I'm supportive of the item. I

7886
04:51:32,443 --> 04:51:34,778
just want to make sure, you

7887
04:51:34,778 --> 04:51:36,780
know, we're clear there aren't

7888
04:51:36,780 --> 04:51:39,150
any unintended consequences of

7889
04:51:39,150 --> 04:51:41,840
this. The fact that, you know,

7890
04:51:41,840 --> 04:51:44,684
it will have, you know, no

7891
04:51:44,688 --> 04:51:46,790
impact that we're not looking

7892
04:51:46,790 --> 04:51:50,270
at. So, you know, the whole

7893
04:51:50,270 --> 04:51:51,528
idea of a feasible or

7894
04:51:51,528 --> 04:51:53,928
reasonable, you know, definition

7895
04:51:54,765 --> 04:51:56,100
of that, I'm not sure if

7896
04:51:56,100 --> 04:51:59,503
MR. Onuma maybe can come forward

7897
04:51:59,503 --> 04:52:03,703
and just walk us through some of

7898
04:52:05,342 --> 04:52:06,710
this.. And MR. Onuma, as

7899
04:52:06,710 --> 04:52:08,379
you're walking down, some of my

7900
04:52:08,379 --> 04:52:11,379
concerns are just with, you

7901
04:52:11,649 --> 04:52:14,649
know, delays, making sure that

7902
04:52:15,185 --> 04:52:16,153
there's going to be consistent

7903
04:52:16,153 --> 04:52:18,521
application, notices won't be

7904
04:52:18,521 --> 04:52:19,123
selective or random. I'm just

7905
04:52:19,123 --> 04:52:22,123
trying to see if there's

7906
04:52:22,259 --> 04:52:24,361
anything that you see here. Do

7907
04:52:24,361 --> 04:52:27,361
you think you covered everything

7908
04:52:29,990 --> 04:52:30,600
that you MAY see on the horizon?

7909
04:52:30,600 --> 04:52:32,600
>>speaker: CHAIRMAN Chaffee,

7910
04:52:33,371 --> 04:52:35,905
members of the board, kevin

7911
04:52:35,905 --> 04:52:37,508
onuma, orange county public

7912
04:52:37,508 --> 04:52:39,243
works. If the policy is to

7913
04:52:39,243 --> 04:52:41,511
develop this notice, if that's

7914
04:52:41,511 --> 04:52:42,879
the policy decision, we're going

7915
04:52:42,879 --> 04:52:44,414
to work up the details. I don't

7916
04:52:44,414 --> 04:52:46,284
know what those details will

7917
04:52:46,284 --> 04:52:47,751
look like. But, you know, this

7918
04:52:47,751 --> 04:52:51,351
goes through, you know, all of

7919
04:52:52,889 --> 04:52:54,558
the requirements. The location,

7920
04:52:54,558 --> 04:52:55,292
product being used, so on.

7921
04:52:55,292 --> 04:52:57,294
>>vincente sarmiento: is there

7922
04:52:57,294 --> 04:52:59,290
anything that you see that isn't

7923
04:52:59,290 --> 04:53:00,697
included in there that should be

7924
04:53:00,697 --> 04:53:02,330
or maybe something that's

7925
04:53:02,330 --> 04:53:05,633
included in there that should be

7926
04:53:07,938 --> 04:53:08,572
removed or stricken?

7927
04:53:08,572 --> 04:53:09,842
>>speaker: I don't think there's

7928
04:53:09,842 --> 04:53:11,442
anything missing or anything

7929
04:53:11,442 --> 04:53:13,111
else that needs to be added. As

7930
04:53:13,111 --> 04:53:14,980
a part of this, a consideration

7931
04:53:14,980 --> 04:53:16,714
that will make -- that we'll

7932
04:53:16,714 --> 04:53:19,217
make is -- we'll have is whether

7933
04:53:19,217 --> 04:53:23,417
or not we need look at measures

7934
04:53:23,521 --> 04:53:25,323
for site security and/or staff

7935
04:53:25,323 --> 04:53:27,325
safety. In case there's

7936
04:53:27,325 --> 04:53:28,726
protests or anything like that.

7937
04:53:28,726 --> 04:53:30,962
>>vincente sarmiento: so I guess

7938
04:53:30,962 --> 04:53:32,797
what you're saying is that --

7939
04:53:32,797 --> 04:53:35,990
could this notice trigger some

7940
04:53:35,990 --> 04:53:38,990
dangerous condition for some of

7941
04:53:38,136 --> 04:53:38,870
the staff or employees?

7942
04:53:38,870 --> 04:53:40,971
>>speaker: it's possible but we

7943
04:53:40,971 --> 04:53:41,539
don't know.

7944
04:53:41,539 --> 04:53:43,539
>>vincente sarmiento: okay.

7945
04:53:45,710 --> 04:53:47,210
That's true of anything, right,

7946
04:53:47,210 --> 04:53:48,713
that we provide notice for. So

7947
04:53:48,713 --> 04:53:50,347
what's your suggestion? How

7948
04:53:50,347 --> 04:53:52,984
would you proceed, I guess, once

7949
04:53:52,984 --> 04:53:55,384
this is expwhremented, assuming

7950
04:53:55,720 --> 04:53:57,320
it does

7951
04:53:57,320 --> 04:53:58,880
>>speaker: there was an

7952
04:53:58,880 --> 04:53:59,556
application I think that was

7953
04:53:59,556 --> 04:54:01,693
being done in APRIL and some

7954
04:54:01,693 --> 04:54:03,393
members of the public showed up.

7955
04:54:03,393 --> 04:54:04,228
My understanding is it went

7956
04:54:04,228 --> 04:54:07,164
into an area that was close to

7957
04:54:07,164 --> 04:54:08,650
the public. It was an access

7958
04:54:08,650 --> 04:54:10,467
road that's closed. It's not

7959
04:54:10,467 --> 04:54:12,569
the trail, and that people, you

7960
04:54:12,569 --> 04:54:14,906
know, went into that closed-off

7961
04:54:14,906 --> 04:54:16,474
area. So because of that, we've

7962
04:54:16,474 --> 04:54:17,374
had discussions with the

7963
04:54:17,374 --> 04:54:19,374
sheriff's department. We're

7964
04:54:20,377 --> 04:54:21,746
looking into options for private

7965
04:54:21,746 --> 04:54:22,913
security companies, and maybe it

7966
04:54:22,913 --> 04:54:25,716
will pan out that we don't need

7967
04:54:25,716 --> 04:54:27,170
it. But it's just an unknown

7968
04:54:27,170 --> 04:54:28,385
right now.

7969
04:54:28,385 --> 04:54:29,787
>>vincente sarmiento: okay. So,

7970
04:54:29,787 --> 04:54:33,891
you know, I guess we want to do

7971
04:54:33,891 --> 04:54:35,493
the right thing. I think the

7972
04:54:35,493 --> 04:54:37,270
public certainly doesn't want to

7973
04:54:37,270 --> 04:54:38,610
put the employees at risk. I

7974
04:54:38,610 --> 04:54:39,563
don't think that's the goal. I

7975
04:54:39,563 --> 04:54:43,400
think the goal is to make sure

7976
04:54:43,400 --> 04:54:46,303
that the public has, you know,

7977
04:54:46,303 --> 04:54:48,390
notice in advance of, you know,

7978
04:54:48,390 --> 04:54:49,407
any sort of maintenance, any

7979
04:54:49,407 --> 04:54:50,975
sort of, you know, spraying,

7980
04:54:50,975 --> 04:54:53,770
anything else that could occur.

7981
04:54:53,770 --> 04:54:53,677
But we have to balance it with

7982
04:54:53,677 --> 04:54:55,513
the interest of the safety of

7983
04:54:55,513 --> 04:54:57,349
the employees to make sure that

7984
04:54:57,349 --> 04:54:59,250
nobody is going to be harmed,

7985
04:54:59,250 --> 04:55:01,686
right, as they do their work.

7986
04:55:01,686 --> 04:55:03,354
So that's my concern, is that we

7987
04:55:03,354 --> 04:55:07,250
have to, you know -- it's not as

7988
04:55:07,250 --> 04:55:09,561
easy as saying let's just do a

7989
04:55:09,561 --> 04:55:10,829
noticing, you know, a public

7990
04:55:10,829 --> 04:55:13,229
noticing requirement here. We

7991
04:55:13,798 --> 04:55:15,332
also want to make sure that, you

7992
04:55:15,332 --> 04:55:16,601
know, we anticipate and forecast

7993
04:55:16,601 --> 04:55:19,570
the potential cost of making

7994
04:55:19,570 --> 04:55:20,371
sure that we ensure the safety

7995
04:55:20,371 --> 04:55:22,907
of the staff and employees who

7996
04:55:22,907 --> 04:55:24,750
will be working at the site.

7997
04:55:24,750 --> 04:55:26,811
And I'm not sure if that's been,

7998
04:55:26,811 --> 04:55:28,547
you know, documented or has that

7999
04:55:28,547 --> 04:55:30,682
been, you know -- has that been

8000
04:55:30,682 --> 04:55:33,185
part of the analysis here, is

8001
04:55:33,185 --> 04:55:34,519
that something you plan to do?

8002
04:55:34,519 --> 04:55:36,120
>>speaker: it's part of what we

8003
04:55:36,120 --> 04:55:40,320
plan to do. It's a part of

8004
04:55:40,691 --> 04:55:41,860
this. We're also looking at --

8005
04:55:41,860 --> 04:55:43,694
noticing that other counties or

8006
04:55:43,694 --> 04:55:45,897
special districts or agencies

8007
04:55:45,897 --> 04:55:47,531
do, because, you know, we can

8008
04:55:47,531 --> 04:55:50,868
learn a lot by looking at what

8009
04:55:50,868 --> 04:55:53,705
other do. So that will be a

8010
04:55:53,705 --> 04:55:54,705
part of us developing this

8011
04:55:54,705 --> 04:55:56,705
>>vincente sarmiento: that's

8012
04:55:56,741 --> 04:55:58,443
great. As we work on this going

8013
04:55:58,443 --> 04:55:59,377
forward, again, I'm supportive.

8014
04:55:59,377 --> 04:56:00,711
I just think that there's a lot

8015
04:56:00,711 --> 04:56:04,416
of questions, and I would ask to

8016
04:56:04,416 --> 04:56:04,916
you look at what, you know,

8017
04:56:04,916 --> 04:56:06,250
quantifying maybe some

8018
04:56:06,250 --> 04:56:08,586
anticipated costs in the event

8019
04:56:08,586 --> 04:56:09,754
that you see some safety

8020
04:56:09,754 --> 04:56:12,189
measures that need to be

8021
04:56:12,189 --> 04:56:13,892
included. Also, just making

8022
04:56:13,892 --> 04:56:16,270
sure that if there are any

8023
04:56:16,270 --> 04:56:17,763
delays that are going to be

8024
04:56:17,763 --> 04:56:19,698
caused as a result of the

8025
04:56:19,698 --> 04:56:21,399
noticing as well. And

8026
04:56:21,399 --> 04:56:22,299
anything -- any other

8027
04:56:22,299 --> 04:56:23,634
contingencies that you MAY see

8028
04:56:23,634 --> 04:56:26,340
here. But thank you.

8029
04:56:26,771 --> 04:56:28,373
Appreciate the responses..

8030
04:56:28,373 --> 04:56:28,774
>>chair, doug chaffee:

8031
04:56:28,774 --> 04:56:29,774
supervisor nguyen

8032
04:56:29,774 --> 04:56:31,409
>>janet nguyen: thank you,

8033
04:56:31,409 --> 04:56:34,409
MR. CHAIRMAN. Do we currently

8034
04:56:35,212 --> 04:56:37,810
provide any notice?

8035
04:56:37,810 --> 04:56:39,481
>>speaker: there is notice

8036
04:56:40,285 --> 04:56:42,187
required by the department of

8037
04:56:42,187 --> 04:56:44,187
pesticide regulation

8038
04:56:45,240 --> 04:56:45,825
>>janet nguyen: so we do --

8039
04:56:45,825 --> 04:56:48,293
because there's a statement that

8040
04:56:48,293 --> 04:56:51,960
says that we don't provide any

8041
04:56:51,960 --> 04:56:53,165
notices at all. My

8042
04:56:53,165 --> 04:56:56,165
understanding is we do within

8043
04:56:56,735 --> 04:56:58,700
the regulation of the department

8044
04:56:58,700 --> 04:56:59,738
of pesticide regulation, which

8045
04:56:59,738 --> 04:57:01,506
requires us to provide advanced

8046
04:57:01,506 --> 04:57:04,208
notice to any individual who MAY

8047
04:57:04,208 --> 04:57:04,443
enter the treated area.

8048
04:57:04,443 --> 04:57:06,443
Correct?

8049
04:57:12,818 --> 04:57:13,451
>>speaker: I believe that the

8050
04:57:13,451 --> 04:57:15,451
--

8051
04:57:16,555 --> 04:57:18,955
>>speaker: hi, edward fondoso,

8052
04:57:19,157 --> 04:57:21,426
oc public works. One notice is

8053
04:57:21,426 --> 04:57:22,260
the annual notification to any

8054
04:57:22,260 --> 04:57:23,194
public agencies that MAY enter

8055
04:57:23,194 --> 04:57:25,797
the work area, and then there's

8056
04:57:25,797 --> 04:57:28,197
a second notification required

8057
04:57:28,333 --> 04:57:30,369
for any individuals who MAY

8058
04:57:30,369 --> 04:57:31,350
enter the work area

8059
04:57:31,350 --> 04:57:34,635
>>janet nguyen: so it's not that

8060
04:57:34,840 --> 04:57:37,443
we don't. Now, this proposal is

8061
04:57:37,443 --> 04:57:39,443
adding additional notification.

8062
04:57:39,477 --> 04:57:40,646
So I just want to make sure that

8063
04:57:40,646 --> 04:57:42,810
we're -- it's clarified that

8064
04:57:42,810 --> 04:57:44,481
there is current notification.

8065
04:57:47,986 --> 04:57:49,454
Might not be what -- be liked.

8066
04:57:49,454 --> 04:57:51,290
And so that's what you're look

8067
04:57:51,290 --> 04:57:52,691
at. And then the public is

8068
04:57:52,691 --> 04:57:54,226
currently restricted from going

8069
04:57:54,226 --> 04:57:56,494
to the bottom of the flood

8070
04:57:56,494 --> 04:57:58,494
control channels, correct?

8071
04:58:03,235 --> 04:58:05,536
Because it's unsafe, right?

8072
04:58:05,536 --> 04:58:07,390
>>speaker: that's correct. Yes.

8073
04:58:07,390 --> 04:58:09,439
>>janet nguyen: that's it.

8074
04:58:10,375 --> 04:58:11,676
Thank you.

8075
04:58:11,676 --> 04:58:13,110
>>don wagner: we already provide

8076
04:58:13,110 --> 04:58:14,980
notice. I'm not sure what the

8077
04:58:14,980 --> 04:58:17,349
problem is we're here trying to

8078
04:58:17,349 --> 04:58:19,510
solve because we already provide

8079
04:58:19,510 --> 04:58:21,451
notice under probably both

8080
04:58:21,853 --> 04:58:23,622
federal and state permits. And

8081
04:58:23,622 --> 04:58:25,758
we're spraying them in areas

8082
04:58:25,758 --> 04:58:28,561
where the public is not allowed

8083
04:58:28,561 --> 04:58:32,161
to go. And we have experience

8084
04:58:33,900 --> 04:58:34,934
in this county with the

8085
04:58:34,934 --> 04:58:36,436
public -- the creek team

8086
04:58:36,436 --> 04:58:39,371
members, I believe it was, going

8087
04:58:39,371 --> 04:58:42,608
into the channels to harass and

8088
04:58:42,608 --> 04:58:44,777
stop spraying that we were doing

8089
04:58:44,777 --> 04:58:45,811
there. So all we're doing is

8090
04:58:45,811 --> 04:58:48,211
giving them another opportunity

8091
04:58:48,881 --> 04:58:52,481
to know when and where and

8092
04:58:52,485 --> 04:58:54,620
harass our staff, and a make

8093
04:58:54,620 --> 04:58:57,620
county has had protestors who

8094
04:58:58,691 --> 04:59:01,930
have disrupted the spraying, to

8095
04:59:01,930 --> 04:59:01,293
my understanding. Is that

8096
04:59:01,293 --> 04:59:02,694
right?

8097
04:59:02,694 --> 04:59:04,729
>>speaker: I'm not aware of

8098
04:59:04,729 --> 04:59:05,831
whatever's going on in the

8099
04:59:05,831 --> 04:59:07,831
neighboring counties.

8100
04:59:08,000 --> 04:59:12,200
>>don wagner: so the -- what do

8101
04:59:13,306 --> 04:59:15,641
we get with this policy besides

8102
04:59:15,641 --> 04:59:18,410
more potential cost for

8103
04:59:18,144 --> 04:59:20,179
enforcement when we -- we

8104
04:59:20,179 --> 04:59:21,246
already give the notices out

8105
04:59:21,246 --> 04:59:23,381
because they're required under

8106
04:59:23,381 --> 04:59:24,250
the permits?

8107
04:59:24,250 --> 04:59:25,684
>>speaker: so to clarify about

8108
04:59:25,684 --> 04:59:27,820
the notice, it's an annual

8109
04:59:27,820 --> 04:59:28,888
notice that's done. And then

8110
04:59:28,888 --> 04:59:30,990
because of the treatments that

8111
04:59:30,990 --> 04:59:35,790
we do are on the bottom of the

8112
04:59:35,927 --> 04:59:37,630
channel, which is no trespassing

8113
04:59:37,630 --> 04:59:39,630
areas, basically the

8114
04:59:39,364 --> 04:59:42,364
notifications that we do is

8115
04:59:42,401 --> 04:59:43,836
mainly to, I think the vector

8116
04:59:43,836 --> 04:59:45,437
control district, because they

8117
04:59:45,437 --> 04:59:48,437
have the authority, ability to

8118
04:59:48,674 --> 04:59:49,875
go into areas like that, even

8119
04:59:49,875 --> 04:59:51,610
though they're marked as no

8120
04:59:51,610 --> 04:59:53,379
trespassing. But in general,

8121
04:59:53,379 --> 04:59:54,821
there's no general noticing

8122
04:59:54,821 --> 04:59:56,949
other than the annual notice

8123
04:59:56,949 --> 04:59:57,116
because it's in the close-off

8124
04:59:57,116 --> 04:59:59,116
area

8125
04:59:59,785 --> 05:00:00,119
>>don wagner: there's no public

8126
05:00:00,119 --> 05:00:01,860
>>speaker: yes

8127
05:00:01,860 --> 05:00:03,722
>>don wagner: all right. Well,

8128
05:00:03,722 --> 05:00:05,490
what about this we're spraying

8129
05:00:05,490 --> 05:00:06,158
it within 10 feet or 5 feet and

8130
05:00:06,158 --> 05:00:07,893
the wind blowing

8131
05:00:07,893 --> 05:00:09,194
>>speaker: so because of that,

8132
05:00:09,194 --> 05:00:11,594
and supervisor foley brought

8133
05:00:12,932 --> 05:00:14,634
this up, we're looking at -- I

8134
05:00:14,634 --> 05:00:16,360
don't know if we've implemented

8135
05:00:16,360 --> 05:00:18,271
it yet because we haven't

8136
05:00:18,271 --> 05:00:20,671
resumed herbicide work. We're

8137
05:00:21,507 --> 05:00:25,707
looking at notices to put up on

8138
05:00:27,447 --> 05:00:29,182
any adjacent public trails that

8139
05:00:29,182 --> 05:00:31,450
we're working in an adjacent

8140
05:00:31,450 --> 05:00:33,520
area. But that's more for

8141
05:00:33,520 --> 05:00:33,251
information like informational

8142
05:00:33,251 --> 05:00:34,387
signs

8143
05:00:34,387 --> 05:00:38,587
>>don wagner: so what do we get

8144
05:00:41,995 --> 05:00:44,430
with this policy? Just what the

8145
05:00:44,430 --> 05:00:44,730
speaker said, increased

8146
05:00:44,730 --> 05:00:45,398
transparency

8147
05:00:45,398 --> 05:00:46,799
>>don wagner: but you're working

8148
05:00:46,799 --> 05:00:48,468
on that notice anyway

8149
05:00:48,468 --> 05:00:49,802
>>speaker: it's an annual notice

8150
05:00:49,802 --> 05:00:52,202
that we do --

8151
05:00:52,971 --> 05:00:53,539
>>don wagner: this is non-public

8152
05:00:53,539 --> 05:00:55,539
areas

8153
05:01:00,613 --> 05:01:01,547
>>speaker: yes.

8154
05:01:01,547 --> 05:01:04,547
>>chair, don wagner: okay. You

8155
05:01:05,151 --> 05:01:05,351
can't say what we get other than

8156
05:01:05,351 --> 05:01:06,653
the --

8157
05:01:06,653 --> 05:01:10,253
>>don wagner: you can't say what

8158
05:01:10,690 --> 05:01:14,290
we get other than the extra

8159
05:01:15,261 --> 05:01:17,261
costs? Thank you...

8160
05:01:17,296 --> 05:01:17,596
>>chair, doug chaffee: back to

8161
05:01:17,596 --> 05:01:18,297
vice-chair.

8162
05:01:18,297 --> 05:01:21,297
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

8163
05:01:21,500 --> 05:01:24,336
you, MR. Onuma. I -- you know,

8164
05:01:24,336 --> 05:01:26,473
we have expressed concern about

8165
05:01:26,473 --> 05:01:27,640
the guerrilla tactics that were

8166
05:01:27,640 --> 05:01:29,908
being used. And part of the

8167
05:01:29,908 --> 05:01:32,811
reason why I'm bringing this

8168
05:01:32,811 --> 05:01:35,881
forward is so that we can

8169
05:01:35,881 --> 05:01:38,184
prevent that type of response.

8170
05:01:38,184 --> 05:01:40,285
And a lot of what I've been

8171
05:01:40,285 --> 05:01:41,320
hearing is that people are sort

8172
05:01:41,320 --> 05:01:43,423
of taking the measures into

8173
05:01:43,423 --> 05:01:45,892
their own hands, which we don't

8174
05:01:45,892 --> 05:01:48,600
want them to do, because they

8175
05:01:48,600 --> 05:01:49,595
don't have notice and they just

8176
05:01:49,595 --> 05:01:51,798
suddenly see people out there

8177
05:01:51,798 --> 05:01:53,600
spraying, and they haven't had a

8178
05:01:53,600 --> 05:01:56,636
chance to avoid the area as an

8179
05:01:56,636 --> 05:01:58,704
example. So this board, we

8180
05:01:58,704 --> 05:02:01,104
pride ourselves on transparency

8181
05:02:01,207 --> 05:02:03,544
and disclosure. The notice that

8182
05:02:03,544 --> 05:02:04,944
is being used currently as you

8183
05:02:04,944 --> 05:02:07,481
indicated is only going to the

8184
05:02:07,481 --> 05:02:09,716
vector controller to maybe some

8185
05:02:09,716 --> 05:02:12,716
public agencies, and I think

8186
05:02:12,752 --> 05:02:14,320
it's by email, right? Or

8187
05:02:14,320 --> 05:02:17,290
maybe -- like by mail. It's not

8188
05:02:17,290 --> 05:02:18,959
a public noticing where the

8189
05:02:18,959 --> 05:02:21,359
public would have knowledge

8190
05:02:22,280 --> 05:02:24,331
about that. Is that right? Is

8191
05:02:24,331 --> 05:02:27,868
that a yes? Yeah. Okay. And

8192
05:02:27,868 --> 05:02:31,370
so that's what this agenda item

8193
05:02:31,370 --> 05:02:34,975
is intended to solve for, is to

8194
05:02:34,975 --> 05:02:36,376
get the public notice, because a

8195
05:02:36,376 --> 05:02:38,110
good example -- the san juan

8196
05:02:38,110 --> 05:02:41,213
creek. If there were to be

8197
05:02:41,213 --> 05:02:43,613
herbicides sprayed there, along

8198
05:02:44,830 --> 05:02:46,185
that bike trail, walking trail,

8199
05:02:46,185 --> 05:02:47,788
right behind it is residential

8200
05:02:47,788 --> 05:02:48,788
neighborhoods. Their backyards.

8201
05:02:48,788 --> 05:02:51,624
I mean, it's very tight.

8202
05:02:51,624 --> 05:02:54,624
You're talking about a 5 foot,

8203
05:02:54,962 --> 05:02:57,264
10 foot setback between where

8204
05:02:57,264 --> 05:03:00,233
there might be work being done

8205
05:03:00,233 --> 05:03:02,402
that caused herbicides to be

8206
05:03:02,402 --> 05:03:03,970
sprayed in the public area. And

8207
05:03:03,970 --> 05:03:06,173
so I think that was the concern

8208
05:03:06,173 --> 05:03:07,707
that people had, is that there

8209
05:03:07,707 --> 05:03:09,308
was no notice to give them an

8210
05:03:09,308 --> 05:03:12,308
opportunity to avoid the area

8211
05:03:13,747 --> 05:03:14,814
even if they wanted to. So I'm

8212
05:03:14,814 --> 05:03:17,351
hopeful that my colleagues can

8213
05:03:17,351 --> 05:03:20,920
sport item and direct staff to

8214
05:03:20,920 --> 05:03:21,954
develop the noticing

8215
05:03:21,954 --> 05:03:24,570
requirements. It's not going to

8216
05:03:24,570 --> 05:03:27,260
hurt to have the public

8217
05:03:27,260 --> 05:03:29,295
notified. This is a concern

8218
05:03:29,295 --> 05:03:32,895
that the public has started to

8219
05:03:33,132 --> 05:03:34,868
express more and more. We had

8220
05:03:34,868 --> 05:03:37,170
been using chemicals as if they

8221
05:03:37,170 --> 05:03:38,671
were okay because someone said

8222
05:03:38,671 --> 05:03:40,173
they were okay. And I think

8223
05:03:40,173 --> 05:03:42,609
that the science is changing,

8224
05:03:42,609 --> 05:03:44,678
and it's not okay. And so

8225
05:03:44,678 --> 05:03:45,446
giving people the notice to

8226
05:03:45,446 --> 05:03:46,981
allow them to make decisions

8227
05:03:46,981 --> 05:03:47,948
about their own lives is

8228
05:03:47,948 --> 05:03:49,950
something that I would support,

8229
05:03:49,950 --> 05:03:52,219
and I hope my colleagues do, as

8230
05:03:52,219 --> 05:03:52,586
well. With that, I move the

8231
05:03:52,586 --> 05:03:54,540
item..

8232
05:03:54,540 --> 05:03:56,890
>>chair, doug chaffee: I think

8233
05:03:56,890 --> 05:03:58,425
we've got a second all right.

8234
05:03:58,425 --> 05:03:59,920
Yeah. We did. Supervisor

8235
05:03:59,920 --> 05:04:00,928
wagner?

8236
05:04:00,928 --> 05:04:03,930
>>don wagner: I'll just start by

8237
05:04:03,930 --> 05:04:05,966
saying it is just, in my mind,

8238
05:04:05,966 --> 05:04:06,500
patent nonsense that these

8239
05:04:06,500 --> 05:04:07,668
guerrilla tactics that our

8240
05:04:07,668 --> 05:04:10,680
employees have suffered through

8241
05:04:10,700 --> 05:04:11,438
is because of a lack of notice.

8242
05:04:11,438 --> 05:04:12,339
No, it's because of the

8243
05:04:12,339 --> 05:04:13,941
spraying. And the spray

8244
05:04:13,941 --> 05:04:15,275
something done pursuant to state

8245
05:04:15,275 --> 05:04:17,578
and federal law. The spray

8246
05:04:17,578 --> 05:04:18,679
something done at levels that

8247
05:04:18,679 --> 05:04:19,480
are below what state and federal

8248
05:04:19,480 --> 05:04:21,314
law permit, and the spray

8249
05:04:21,314 --> 05:04:24,314
something done in places that

8250
05:04:25,152 --> 05:04:26,719
the public is exexplicitly

8251
05:04:26,719 --> 05:04:27,487
excluded from because it is

8252
05:04:27,487 --> 05:04:29,188
dangerous. It is dangerous not

8253
05:04:29,188 --> 05:04:30,724
just because of these chemicals,

8254
05:04:30,724 --> 05:04:33,827
but for lots of other reasons.

8255
05:04:33,827 --> 05:04:35,595
So the idea that notices are

8256
05:04:35,595 --> 05:04:36,429
somehow going to say, all right,

8257
05:04:36,429 --> 05:04:38,232
if you've given me notice, you

8258
05:04:38,232 --> 05:04:39,980
can go ahead and spray all of

8259
05:04:39,980 --> 05:04:42,980
these pesticides, I mean, that

8260
05:04:43,736 --> 05:04:44,338
is just patently false and a

8261
05:04:44,338 --> 05:04:45,873
will.

8262
05:04:45,873 --> 05:04:48,873
Misreading of what has been

8263
05:04:49,109 --> 05:04:50,900
going on out in the creeks. It

8264
05:04:50,900 --> 05:04:51,444
also sounds to me like public

8265
05:04:51,444 --> 05:04:55,644
works is trying to come up with

8266
05:04:55,983 --> 05:04:56,784
a notice that is in addition to

8267
05:04:56,784 --> 05:04:57,817
and supplemental of what is

8268
05:04:57,817 --> 05:04:59,352
required under state and federal

8269
05:04:59,352 --> 05:05:02,210
law. Great. I would encourage

8270
05:05:02,210 --> 05:05:05,993
them to do that. I guess this

8271
05:05:05,993 --> 05:05:08,461
item provides some formalism for

8272
05:05:08,461 --> 05:05:09,897
that effort. So, you know, all

8273
05:05:09,897 --> 05:05:12,198
right. More notice. More

8274
05:05:12,198 --> 05:05:15,198
transparency. Fine. What I do

8275
05:05:15,269 --> 05:05:18,305
worry about is that it gives the

8276
05:05:18,305 --> 05:05:20,730
bad actors out there the

8277
05:05:20,730 --> 05:05:22,900
opportunities to target our

8278
05:05:22,900 --> 05:05:24,345
employees. I'm a little bit

8279
05:05:24,345 --> 05:05:25,779
more robust -- they target our

8280
05:05:25,779 --> 05:05:26,780
employees a little bit more

8281
05:05:26,780 --> 05:05:27,781
robustly, a little bit more

8282
05:05:27,781 --> 05:05:28,916
deliberately because they'll

8283
05:05:28,916 --> 05:05:29,717
have knowledge of where they

8284
05:05:29,717 --> 05:05:31,386
will be and when they will be

8285
05:05:31,386 --> 05:05:32,386
there. But at the end of the

8286
05:05:32,386 --> 05:05:35,256
day, if the public is looking

8287
05:05:35,256 --> 05:05:37,491
for this notice and if our staff

8288
05:05:37,491 --> 05:05:38,993
is going to try to develop

8289
05:05:38,993 --> 05:05:41,429
something in nifnt, we might as

8290
05:05:41,429 --> 05:05:44,165
well do this. It is a solution

8291
05:05:44,165 --> 05:05:46,601
in search of a problem. It is

8292
05:05:46,601 --> 05:05:49,100
potentially increasing danger to

8293
05:05:50,438 --> 05:05:52,807
our workforce, but public works

8294
05:05:52,807 --> 05:05:54,542
is gonna do it. Let's do it and

8295
05:05:54,542 --> 05:05:58,346
see how it works out. We can

8296
05:05:58,346 --> 05:05:59,800
always revisit it later..

8297
05:05:59,800 --> 05:06:00,448
>>chair, doug chaffee:

8298
05:06:00,448 --> 05:06:01,115
supervisor sarmiento?

8299
05:06:01,115 --> 05:06:02,215
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

8300
05:06:02,215 --> 05:06:05,860
MR. Chair. I'll be brief. As

8301
05:06:05,860 --> 05:06:07,321
we look at this again, and I do

8302
05:06:07,321 --> 05:06:09,423
think that the notice that right

8303
05:06:09,423 --> 05:06:11,858
now is -- or that we do, which

8304
05:06:11,858 --> 05:06:12,859
is an annual, is insufficient in

8305
05:06:12,859 --> 05:06:15,169
my opinion. I think, you know,

8306
05:06:15,169 --> 05:06:17,197
we do want to improve on that.

8307
05:06:17,197 --> 05:06:20,234
That is a very low bar. But I

8308
05:06:20,234 --> 05:06:20,835
think if we can work on this

8309
05:06:20,835 --> 05:06:22,670
whole -- you know, I think the

8310
05:06:22,670 --> 05:06:24,272
premise of this makes sense.

8311
05:06:24,272 --> 05:06:25,939
I'm supportive. But I think

8312
05:06:25,939 --> 05:06:29,444
it's a little unclear, and it's

8313
05:06:29,444 --> 05:06:31,278
a little vague when it comes to

8314
05:06:31,278 --> 05:06:32,679
public notice where feasible. I

8315
05:06:32,679 --> 05:06:35,150
don't know what that means. So

8316
05:06:35,150 --> 05:06:37,485
if we can just get some clarity

8317
05:06:37,485 --> 05:06:40,187
on that, you know, as we go

8318
05:06:40,187 --> 05:06:41,923
through this, just so we're, you

8319
05:06:41,923 --> 05:06:44,191
know -- so we have a better

8320
05:06:44,191 --> 05:06:45,158
understanding, it's not quite so

8321
05:06:45,158 --> 05:06:46,626
ambiguous, but certainly is

8322
05:06:46,626 --> 05:06:49,626
something that to me is

8323
05:06:50,497 --> 05:06:51,310
important. So thank you..

8324
05:06:51,310 --> 05:06:53,431
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

8325
05:06:54,000 --> 05:06:56,300
right. My own comments, I share

8326
05:06:56,300 --> 05:06:58,403
the concerns about employees

8327
05:06:59,540 --> 05:07:01,174
being harassed and ask county

8328
05:07:01,174 --> 05:07:03,978
counsel do we have any

8329
05:07:03,978 --> 05:07:04,778
protective ordinances should our

8330
05:07:04,778 --> 05:07:07,381
employees be larked? If you

8331
05:07:07,381 --> 05:07:10,981
don't know, that's fine we can

8332
05:07:18,759 --> 05:07:20,261
get to that later.

8333
05:07:20,261 --> 05:07:21,729
>>leon page: protective

8334
05:07:21,729 --> 05:07:23,231
ordinances, I'm not aware of

8335
05:07:23,231 --> 05:07:25,300
anything like that. If a crime

8336
05:07:25,300 --> 05:07:27,350
occurred in connection with

8337
05:07:27,350 --> 05:07:28,102
ongoing spraying, the deputy

8338
05:07:28,102 --> 05:07:29,369
sheriffs on site or the

8339
05:07:29,369 --> 05:07:29,804
sheriff's department in general

8340
05:07:29,804 --> 05:07:31,380
would get involved.

8341
05:07:31,380 --> 05:07:33,808
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay. We

8342
05:07:33,808 --> 05:07:36,410
MAY look at that as well. So I

8343
05:07:36,410 --> 05:07:37,746
think the concept is a little

8344
05:07:37,746 --> 05:07:39,247
different than they had no

8345
05:07:39,247 --> 05:07:41,683
notices which are not public

8346
05:07:41,683 --> 05:07:43,318
notices at all really. So I

8347
05:07:43,318 --> 05:07:45,787
think something here is needed.

8348
05:07:45,787 --> 05:07:48,220
But I'm not sure how extensive

8349
05:07:48,220 --> 05:07:52,822
it needs to be. But I will go

8350
05:07:53,828 --> 05:07:55,330
along with this and approve it.

8351
05:07:55,330 --> 05:07:57,131
We'll see if it comes back.

8352
05:07:57,131 --> 05:07:58,650
This is not the -- we have to

8353
05:07:58,650 --> 05:08:01,368
come back and approve it, I

8354
05:08:01,368 --> 05:08:03,370
assume. It's not just the final

8355
05:08:03,370 --> 05:08:04,405
product, but you develop it, in

8356
05:08:04,405 --> 05:08:06,841
order for it to be effective, it

8357
05:08:06,841 --> 05:08:07,474
has to come back. I think

8358
05:08:07,474 --> 05:08:09,760
that's intention along with all

8359
05:08:09,760 --> 05:08:11,713
of the other studies you're

8360
05:08:11,713 --> 05:08:15,416
doing anyway. So do we need --

8361
05:08:15,416 --> 05:08:16,750
have a descent here? Okay. All

8362
05:08:16,750 --> 05:08:18,353
right. It's been moved and

8363
05:08:18,353 --> 05:08:20,880
seconded. Is there any

8364
05:08:20,880 --> 05:08:22,890
objection? All right. It does

8365
05:08:22,890 --> 05:08:24,489
pass unanimously. Thank you.

8366
05:08:30,831 --> 05:08:31,465
We go on to supplement 94f.

8367
05:08:31,465 --> 05:08:32,133
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94f.

8368
05:08:32,133 --> 05:08:32,768
Under sheriff-coroner-approve

8369
05:08:32,768 --> 05:08:33,334
amendment 1 to renew contract

8370
05:08:33,334 --> 05:08:33,934
ma-060-25010599 with waters

8371
05:08:33,934 --> 05:08:34,602
technologies corporation dba

8372
05:08:34,602 --> 05:08:35,169
waters chromatography corp. For

8373
05:08:35,169 --> 05:08:35,870
service, preventative

8374
05:08:35,870 --> 05:08:36,572
maintenance and consumables for

8375
05:08:36,572 --> 05:08:37,239
orange county crime lab's liquid

8376
05:08:37,239 --> 05:08:38,240
chromatography mass

8377
05:08:38,240 --> 05:08:39,373
spectrometers, 7/14/26-7/13/27

8378
05:08:39,373 --> 05:08:40,408
($325,000; cumulative total

8379
05:08:40,408 --> 05:08:41,442
$625,000); renewable for three

8380
05:08:41,442 --> 05:08:42,810
additional one-year terms; and

8381
05:08:42,810 --> 05:08:43,544
authorize county procurement

8382
05:08:43,544 --> 05:08:46,544
officer or deputized designee to

8383
05:08:46,647 --> 05:08:48,647
execute amendment

8384
05:08:49,984 --> 05:08:50,151
we have no requests to speak on

8385
05:08:50,151 --> 05:08:50,818
s94f

8386
05:08:50,818 --> 05:08:53,288
>>chair, doug chaffee: it's a

8387
05:08:53,288 --> 05:08:55,688
district 2 item. Any objection?

8388
05:08:56,491 --> 05:08:57,125
Motion carries. 94g.

8389
05:08:57,125 --> 05:08:58,590
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94g.

8390
05:08:58,590 --> 05:08:58,593
Under supervisor wagner-orange

8391
05:08:58,593 --> 05:09:00,593
county human relations

8392
05:09:01,897 --> 05:09:03,799
commission-appoint ilana

8393
05:09:03,799 --> 05:09:05,300
meirovitch, coto de caza, for

8394
05:09:05,300 --> 05:09:05,734
term concurrent with 3rd

8395
05:09:05,734 --> 05:09:06,334
district supervisor'

8396
05:09:06,334 --> 05:09:06,968
s term of

8397
05:09:06,968 --> 05:09:09,368
office (Click for files)

8398
05:09:11,907 --> 05:09:13,410
S94h. Supervisor wagner-

8399
05:09:13,410 --> 05:09:15,344
-- we have no requests to speak

8400
05:09:15,344 --> 05:09:17,344
on s94g

8401
05:09:17,611 --> 05:09:18,480
>>don wagner: this is to replace

8402
05:09:18,480 --> 05:09:19,981
rabbi steinberg on the

8403
05:09:19,981 --> 05:09:23,581
commission. I want to thank him

8404
05:09:23,752 --> 05:09:25,954
again for his service and thank

8405
05:09:25,954 --> 05:09:27,589
MS. M for stepping up and thank

8406
05:09:27,589 --> 05:09:29,560
d5 for concurrence on this one.

8407
05:09:29,560 --> 05:09:30,525
I'll move the item.

8408
05:09:30,525 --> 05:09:31,393
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

8409
05:09:31,393 --> 05:09:33,793
second. I really enjoyed

8410
05:09:34,663 --> 05:09:35,764
working with ilana

8411
05:09:35,764 --> 05:09:37,399
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

8412
05:09:37,399 --> 05:09:39,799
seconded. Seeing no objection.

8413
05:09:43,438 --> 05:09:45,838
Item is approved.. Supplement

8414
05:09:51,679 --> 05:09:52,347
94j.

8415
05:09:52,347 --> 05:09:52,947
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94j.

8416
05:09:52,947 --> 05:09:53,547
Under chair chaffee-orange

8417
05:09:53,547 --> 05:09:54,149
county workforce development

8418
05:09:54,149 --> 05:09:54,749
board-appoint anastasia rose

8419
05:09:54,749 --> 05:09:55,383
zamora-ortiz, yucaipa, to

8420
05:09:55,383 --> 05:09:56,170
complete term ending 12/31/27;

8421
05:09:56,170 --> 05:09:56,685
and approve waiver of residency

8422
05:09:56,685 --> 05:09:57,419
requirements (Click for files)

8423
05:09:57,419 --> 05:09:58,120
S94k. Oc waste & recycling-

8424
05:09:58,120 --> 05:09:58,654
approve amendments to exclusive

8425
05:09:58,654 --> 05:09:59,287
franchise agreements for

8426
05:09:59,287 --> 05:09:59,955
discarded materials management

8427
05:09:59,955 --> 05:10:00,521
services; and authorize director

8428
05:10:00,521 --> 05:10:01,880
or designee to execute

8429
05:10:01,880 --> 05:10:02,858
amendments and make minor

8430
05:10:02,858 --> 05:10:05,258
changes under certain conditions

8431
05:10:05,794 --> 05:10:06,394
we have no requests to speak.

8432
05:10:06,394 --> 05:10:08,950
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is

8433
05:10:08,950 --> 05:10:09,497
my item, I'll move it. Moved

8434
05:10:09,497 --> 05:10:11,330
and seconded. Any objection?

8435
05:10:11,330 --> 05:10:14,330
Item is approved. Thank you.

8436
05:10:25,414 --> 05:10:26,140
We go to supplement 94k.

8437
05:10:26,140 --> 05:10:26,682
S94k. Oc waste & recycling-

8438
05:10:26,682 --> 05:10:27,215
approve amendments to exclusive

8439
05:10:27,215 --> 05:10:27,849
franchise agreements for

8440
05:10:27,849 --> 05:10:28,516
discarded materials management

8441
05:10:28,516 --> 05:10:29,160
services; and authorize director

8442
05:10:29,160 --> 05:10:29,584
or designee to execute

8443
05:10:29,584 --> 05:10:31,984
amendments and make minor

8444
05:10:32,655 --> 05:10:34,422
changes under certain conditions

8445
05:10:34,422 --> 05:10:35,123
we have no requests to speak.

8446
05:10:35,123 --> 05:10:36,391
>>chair, doug chaffee:

8447
05:10:36,391 --> 05:10:38,192
all-district item. Moved and

8448
05:10:38,192 --> 05:10:40,592
seconded. Any objection? Item

8449
05:10:49,938 --> 05:10:50,572
is approved. Supplement 94v.

8450
05:10:50,572 --> 05:10:51,140
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94v.

8451
05:10:51,140 --> 05:10:51,674
Under clerk of the board-

8452
05:10:51,674 --> 05:10:52,341
approve revised board of

8453
05:10:52,341 --> 05:10:53,410
supervisor's rules of procedure

8454
05:10:53,410 --> 05:10:55,778
to include new brown act

8455
05:10:55,778 --> 05:10:57,479
requirements and other

8456
05:10:57,479 --> 05:10:59,879
administrative changes. We have

8457
05:11:01,684 --> 05:11:02,417
no requests to speak. Is.

8458
05:11:02,417 --> 05:11:03,686
>>chair, doug chaffee:

8459
05:11:03,686 --> 05:11:04,353
vice-chair foley.

8460
05:11:04,353 --> 05:11:06,388
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: rule

8461
05:11:06,388 --> 05:11:07,923
number 48 is being proposed to

8462
05:11:07,923 --> 05:11:08,891
be updated to reduce the comment

8463
05:11:08,891 --> 05:11:10,425
time from three minutes to 2

8464
05:11:10,425 --> 05:11:12,127
minutes. However, I think that

8465
05:11:12,127 --> 05:11:13,562
should be left to the discretion

8466
05:11:13,562 --> 05:11:16,265
of the chair, like it currently

8467
05:11:16,265 --> 05:11:17,132
is now, instead of it being

8468
05:11:17,132 --> 05:11:20,335
codified. We should keep it at

8469
05:11:20,335 --> 05:11:20,499
three minutes, in other words.

8470
05:11:20,499 --> 05:11:21,300
.

8471
05:11:21,300 --> 05:11:23,403
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

8472
05:11:23,838 --> 05:11:25,441
right. What do we say as to

8473
05:11:25,441 --> 05:11:27,750
that, other supervisors?

8474
05:11:27,750 --> 05:11:28,711
Supervisor wagner?

8475
05:11:28,711 --> 05:11:30,945
>>don wagner: well, having

8476
05:11:30,945 --> 05:11:32,548
this -- this has been thought

8477
05:11:32,548 --> 05:11:34,116
through, looked at, I don't have

8478
05:11:34,116 --> 05:11:37,716
a problem with that change. And

8479
05:11:39,187 --> 05:11:41,524
it is always at distress of the

8480
05:11:41,524 --> 05:11:42,725
chair to cut or, I suppose, can

8481
05:11:42,725 --> 05:11:45,125
expand in cases where

8482
05:11:45,660 --> 05:11:48,597
appropriate. So I don't see a

8483
05:11:48,597 --> 05:11:49,497
point to pick any of these rules

8484
05:11:49,497 --> 05:11:49,764
individually. I'd leave it as

8485
05:11:49,764 --> 05:11:51,599
propped.

8486
05:11:51,599 --> 05:11:52,535
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll

8487
05:11:52,535 --> 05:11:53,335
withdraw my second.

8488
05:11:53,335 --> 05:11:56,335
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

8489
05:11:56,871 --> 05:11:57,138
second as proposed. Any other

8490
05:11:57,138 --> 05:11:57,772
comments.

8491
05:11:57,772 --> 05:12:00,208
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: no.

8492
05:12:00,208 --> 05:12:01,843
I withdraw my second because I

8493
05:12:01,843 --> 05:12:03,945
don't support codifying that we

8494
05:12:03,945 --> 05:12:06,810
will go from 3 minutes to 2

8495
05:12:06,810 --> 05:12:07,216
minutes, and that becomes the

8496
05:12:07,216 --> 05:12:09,251
new rule. Everyone gets 2

8497
05:12:09,251 --> 05:12:10,920
minutes and then the chair has

8498
05:12:10,920 --> 05:12:13,320
discretion whether they get

8499
05:12:14,724 --> 05:12:16,558
less. So that's why.

8500
05:12:16,558 --> 05:12:19,940
>>chair, doug chaffee: the chair

8501
05:12:19,940 --> 05:12:20,829
could make it more too. All

8502
05:12:20,829 --> 05:12:23,966
right. I will second the item.

8503
05:12:23,966 --> 05:12:26,680
Is there any objection?

8504
05:12:26,680 --> 05:12:26,468
Vice-chair, do you wish to

8505
05:12:26,468 --> 05:12:27,870
register a no.

8506
05:12:27,870 --> 05:12:29,805
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: well,

8507
05:12:29,805 --> 05:12:32,342
I'll register a no on that. Can

8508
05:12:32,342 --> 05:12:35,378
I register a no on that section

8509
05:12:35,378 --> 05:12:36,112
or do I vote no on the whole

8510
05:12:36,112 --> 05:12:37,113
thing? Because I support the

8511
05:12:37,113 --> 05:12:38,714
change. I mean, it's state law.

8512
05:12:38,714 --> 05:12:41,350
We have to change it. The only

8513
05:12:41,350 --> 05:12:41,918
thing we're not changing as it

8514
05:12:41,918 --> 05:12:42,552
relates to state law is that

8515
05:12:42,552 --> 05:12:44,686
we've reduced the time that the

8516
05:12:44,686 --> 05:12:46,255
public has to talk to us, which

8517
05:12:46,255 --> 05:12:46,923
I don't support.

8518
05:12:46,923 --> 05:12:49,291
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay. Is

8519
05:12:49,291 --> 05:12:52,295
that all right just to note that

8520
05:12:52,295 --> 05:12:54,295
objection to that?

8521
05:12:54,430 --> 05:12:55,297
>>clerk, robin stieler: yes

8522
05:12:55,297 --> 05:12:56,299
>>chair, doug chaffee: so noted.

8523
05:12:56,299 --> 05:12:57,633
Supervisor sarmiento?

8524
05:12:57,633 --> 05:12:59,335
>>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank

8525
05:12:59,335 --> 05:13:02,438
you, MR. Chair. I'm going to

8526
05:13:02,438 --> 05:13:04,507
also on the record oppose that

8527
05:13:04,507 --> 05:13:06,609
change for the time limit for

8528
05:13:06,609 --> 05:13:08,511
speakers to have. To me,th

8529
05:13:08,511 --> 05:13:09,144
always when you reduce it, much

8530
05:13:09,144 --> 05:13:10,646
more difficult to expand the

8531
05:13:10,646 --> 05:13:12,915
time for people to speak rather

8532
05:13:12,915 --> 05:13:14,516
than contract it. So I'd rather

8533
05:13:14,516 --> 05:13:17,419
have our default be three

8534
05:13:17,419 --> 05:13:18,253
minutes as we've always had that

8535
05:13:18,253 --> 05:13:20,653
standard at most public

8536
05:13:21,289 --> 05:13:22,991
meetings. We will be an outlier

8537
05:13:22,991 --> 05:13:24,660
again to reduce it to 2. If we

8538
05:13:24,660 --> 05:13:27,496
need to go to 2 just like we had

8539
05:13:27,496 --> 05:13:28,330
to today, we had to go to 1,

8540
05:13:28,330 --> 05:13:29,365
that's up to the chair's

8541
05:13:29,365 --> 05:13:30,799
discretion when we had a very

8542
05:13:30,799 --> 05:13:33,703
busy agenda. So I don't agree

8543
05:13:33,703 --> 05:13:35,971
we having our default contracted

8544
05:13:35,971 --> 05:13:36,839
from three minutes to 2..

8545
05:13:36,839 --> 05:13:37,672
>>chair, doug chaffee: back to

8546
05:13:37,672 --> 05:13:39,174
supervisor wagner

8547
05:13:39,174 --> 05:13:41,310
>>don wagner: briefly, this

8548
05:13:41,310 --> 05:13:43,513
didn't come out of the blue.

8549
05:13:43,513 --> 05:13:46,748
The fact is state law has

8550
05:13:46,748 --> 05:13:49,686
changed, requiring a much more

8551
05:13:49,686 --> 05:13:51,686
robust, interactive, virtual

8552
05:13:52,921 --> 05:13:54,556
opportunity to speak. And

8553
05:13:54,556 --> 05:13:56,580
supervisor nguyen and I both

8554
05:13:56,580 --> 05:13:58,600
have had an opportunity for

8555
05:13:58,600 --> 05:13:58,661
example to serve on the south

8556
05:13:58,661 --> 05:13:59,928
coast air quality management

8557
05:13:59,928 --> 05:14:03,528
district where they have for a

8558
05:14:03,599 --> 05:14:05,334
long time allowed that type of

8559
05:14:05,334 --> 05:14:07,569
participation, and you can have

8560
05:14:07,569 --> 05:14:09,973
public comments that reach up to

8561
05:14:09,973 --> 05:14:11,407
four and five hours, in my

8562
05:14:11,407 --> 05:14:12,675
experience. And you've been

8563
05:14:12,675 --> 05:14:14,444
there a little bit longer. And

8564
05:14:14,444 --> 05:14:16,880
so what we're trying to do here,

8565
05:14:16,880 --> 05:14:19,582
what make the most sense to me,

8566
05:14:19,582 --> 05:14:22,919
is -- because when we cut down

8567
05:14:22,919 --> 05:14:24,821
the amount of time, we always

8568
05:14:24,821 --> 05:14:26,690
get speakers who are -- you

8569
05:14:26,690 --> 05:14:28,290
know, we had two that needed to

8570
05:14:28,290 --> 05:14:30,727
be removed by the sheriff at our

8571
05:14:30,727 --> 05:14:34,300
last meeting. And so set bar at

8572
05:14:34,300 --> 05:14:37,660
2 because we've got a whole new

8573
05:14:37,660 --> 05:14:38,101
environment with these virtual

8574
05:14:38,101 --> 05:14:39,102
call-ins, evaluate it after a

8575
05:14:39,102 --> 05:14:41,837
certain period if we want to.

8576
05:14:41,837 --> 05:14:45,141
We can always do that. But we

8577
05:14:45,141 --> 05:14:46,575
are much better off, in my

8578
05:14:46,575 --> 05:14:48,878
mind -- and the reason for the

8579
05:14:48,878 --> 05:14:50,914
rule change, is that we're going

8580
05:14:50,914 --> 05:14:54,251
to have a new environment. And

8581
05:14:54,251 --> 05:14:55,785
what we don't want to do is

8582
05:14:55,785 --> 05:14:57,387
unnecessarily cause people to

8583
05:14:57,387 --> 05:14:58,888
say, oh, you're just shutting me

8584
05:14:58,888 --> 05:15:00,923
down or have to have a sheriff

8585
05:15:00,923 --> 05:15:02,526
come out or have to hang up on

8586
05:15:02,526 --> 05:15:04,260
somebody. We try to avoid all

8587
05:15:04,260 --> 05:15:06,963
of those problems by being

8588
05:15:06,963 --> 05:15:09,298
proactive right now and, if more

8589
05:15:09,298 --> 05:15:10,399
time is needed or if there

8590
05:15:10,399 --> 05:15:12,434
aren't the volume of speakers

8591
05:15:12,434 --> 05:15:16,340
that some people worry about, we

8592
05:15:16,505 --> 05:15:18,174
can deal with it on the fly..

8593
05:15:18,174 --> 05:15:18,841
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

8594
05:15:18,841 --> 05:15:20,443
you, supervisor nguyen?

8595
05:15:20,443 --> 05:15:22,843
>>janet nguyen: thank you,

8596
05:15:25,481 --> 05:15:27,490
MR. CHAIRMAN. I actually on the

8597
05:15:27,490 --> 05:15:29,518
mindset of allowing the chair to

8598
05:15:29,518 --> 05:15:32,518
make that discretion and/or

8599
05:15:33,957 --> 05:15:36,393
maybe we talked about the online

8600
05:15:36,393 --> 05:15:38,728
because supervisor wagner is

8601
05:15:38,728 --> 05:15:39,696
correct, at aqmd we have

8602
05:15:39,696 --> 05:15:41,231
sometimes the difference between

8603
05:15:41,231 --> 05:15:43,165
public speaking timeframe and

8604
05:15:43,165 --> 05:15:46,503
also online. We did -- had a

8605
05:15:46,503 --> 05:15:48,300
meeting that went for six hours,

8606
05:15:48,300 --> 05:15:50,706
and two or three hours of that

8607
05:15:50,706 --> 05:15:52,542
was just online. And people

8608
05:15:52,542 --> 05:15:54,144
called from all over the state

8609
05:15:54,144 --> 05:15:55,645
of california, not just in the

8610
05:15:55,645 --> 05:15:58,645
effected area that we represent

8611
05:16:00,170 --> 05:16:01,180
at aqmd but all over california,

8612
05:16:01,180 --> 05:16:03,253
all overnight nation, as well.

8613
05:16:03,253 --> 05:16:05,689
And so I think, you know,

8614
05:16:05,689 --> 05:16:07,791
allowing the CHAIRMAN Of or

8615
05:16:07,791 --> 05:16:10,270
CHAIRWOMAN To make that decision

8616
05:16:10,270 --> 05:16:13,960
moving forward, I would be more

8617
05:16:13,960 --> 05:16:13,864
comfortable and not capped us

8618
05:16:13,864 --> 05:16:15,532
immediately at this time and

8619
05:16:15,532 --> 05:16:17,434
have that flexibility whether,

8620
05:16:17,434 --> 05:16:19,836
you know, when we do transition

8621
05:16:19,836 --> 05:16:21,537
to the new system, having it

8622
05:16:21,537 --> 05:16:23,373
online, as well, as to allow the

8623
05:16:23,373 --> 05:16:25,509
chair to decide, okay, if it's,

8624
05:16:25,509 --> 05:16:27,177
you know -- we've -- I've

8625
05:16:27,177 --> 05:16:30,279
actually been on, I think it was

8626
05:16:30,279 --> 05:16:31,649
like 30 seconds at aqmd because

8627
05:16:31,649 --> 05:16:35,249
we had hundreds and hundreds of

8628
05:16:36,687 --> 05:16:38,210
people calling in. I think it

8629
05:16:38,210 --> 05:16:39,389
should be up to the discretion

8630
05:16:39,389 --> 05:16:42,359
of the chair. And so I'm not

8631
05:16:42,359 --> 05:16:45,194
opposed to the two. I'm not

8632
05:16:45,194 --> 05:16:46,363
opposed to the three, but I

8633
05:16:46,363 --> 05:16:47,965
cannot -- I don't want to go to

8634
05:16:47,965 --> 05:16:49,433
just capping it at two right

8635
05:16:49,433 --> 05:16:51,100
now. I think we stay where

8636
05:16:51,100 --> 05:16:54,604
we're at and then allow the

8637
05:16:54,604 --> 05:16:54,796
chair to make that discretion.

8638
05:16:54,796 --> 05:16:55,405
.

8639
05:16:55,405 --> 05:16:57,740
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

8640
05:16:57,740 --> 05:17:00,877
Well, I'm not sure where we're

8641
05:17:00,877 --> 05:17:02,379
at. I support the 2 minutes.

8642
05:17:02,379 --> 05:17:05,314
Because you can't tell when

8643
05:17:05,314 --> 05:17:06,717
people call in how long they

8644
05:17:06,717 --> 05:17:09,117
might speak. You probably

8645
05:17:09,185 --> 05:17:10,587
didn't hear the admonition in

8646
05:17:10,587 --> 05:17:13,690
the first place. So I think

8647
05:17:13,690 --> 05:17:15,125
some standard should be there.

8648
05:17:15,125 --> 05:17:17,528
And I've been involved in

8649
05:17:17,528 --> 05:17:18,729
meetings too where we have

8650
05:17:18,729 --> 05:17:20,630
people calling in and now it has

8651
05:17:20,630 --> 05:17:23,000
to be online, and it's more than

8652
05:17:23,000 --> 05:17:24,334
that, you have to make certain

8653
05:17:24,334 --> 05:17:26,350
the connections there.

8654
05:17:26,350 --> 05:17:27,638
Sometimes you have a delay in

8655
05:17:27,638 --> 05:17:29,773
even making the connection. So

8656
05:17:29,773 --> 05:17:34,573
it takes a lot more time to do

8657
05:17:39,883 --> 05:17:40,183
these kinds things.. Back to

8658
05:17:40,183 --> 05:17:41,185
vice-chair.

8659
05:17:41,185 --> 05:17:42,419
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'm

8660
05:17:42,419 --> 05:17:44,421
not concerned about cutting off

8661
05:17:44,421 --> 05:17:45,956
the person at designated time.

8662
05:17:45,956 --> 05:17:48,159
It's actually easier to do

8663
05:17:48,159 --> 05:17:49,860
online. The city of costa mesa

8664
05:17:49,860 --> 05:17:50,861
during the pandemic, we went to

8665
05:17:50,861 --> 05:17:52,696
online and they have remained

8666
05:17:52,696 --> 05:17:54,231
online. And sometimes they have

8667
05:17:54,231 --> 05:17:56,340
one person show up. Sometimes

8668
05:17:56,340 --> 05:17:57,568
they have 20. Just depends on

8669
05:17:57,568 --> 05:17:59,937
the issue at council meeting.

8670
05:17:59,937 --> 05:18:02,807
But the way the system is set up

8671
05:18:02,807 --> 05:18:05,807
is that it automatically cuts

8672
05:18:05,943 --> 05:18:06,943
off at the 3-minute mark

8673
05:18:06,943 --> 05:18:09,780
>>chair, doug chaffee: no, they

8674
05:18:09,780 --> 05:18:09,992
have to -- you have to remind

8675
05:18:09,992 --> 05:18:10,614
them.

8676
05:18:10,614 --> 05:18:12,716
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: the

8677
05:18:12,716 --> 05:18:14,652
clerk cuts it off automatically

8678
05:18:14,652 --> 05:18:15,386
at 3 minute mark.

8679
05:18:15,386 --> 05:18:16,153
>>chair, doug chaffee: that's

8680
05:18:16,153 --> 05:18:17,488
not what we're doing here.

8681
05:18:17,488 --> 05:18:19,590
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: well,

8682
05:18:19,590 --> 05:18:21,292
that seems to me that that's

8683
05:18:21,292 --> 05:18:23,427
what most all of the other

8684
05:18:23,427 --> 05:18:25,427
organizations that utilize

8685
05:18:26,764 --> 05:18:29,764
online, they have an automatic

8686
05:18:32,203 --> 05:18:34,271
cut-off -- is that right,

8687
05:18:34,271 --> 05:18:35,239
MS. Styleler?

8688
05:18:35,239 --> 05:18:37,173
>>clerk, robin stieler: the

8689
05:18:37,173 --> 05:18:38,174
virtual calls does not have an

8690
05:18:38,174 --> 05:18:39,877
automatic but we will have a

8691
05:18:39,877 --> 05:18:43,477
timer to monitor the time where

8692
05:18:44,247 --> 05:18:44,447
I can stop the speaker at the

8693
05:18:44,447 --> 05:18:46,447
time.

8694
05:18:46,549 --> 05:18:48,840
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: so

8695
05:18:48,840 --> 05:18:50,387
then you or your staff can

8696
05:18:50,387 --> 05:18:50,613
automatically move to the next

8697
05:18:50,613 --> 05:18:52,613
person

8698
05:19:03,433 --> 05:19:05,833
>>clerk, robin stieler: yes.

8699
05:19:06,471 --> 05:19:08,305
>>leon page: and the L.A. County

8700
05:19:08,305 --> 05:19:09,607
board of supervisors only allows

8701
05:19:09,607 --> 05:19:11,208
1 minute.

8702
05:19:11,208 --> 05:19:12,110
>>clerk, robin stieler: there's

8703
05:19:12,110 --> 05:19:13,445
no designation. It's the same

8704
05:19:13,445 --> 05:19:14,244
across the board.

8705
05:19:14,244 --> 05:19:17,480
>>chair, doug chaffee: we have a

8706
05:19:17,480 --> 05:19:18,820
motion to accept the document as

8707
05:19:18,820 --> 05:19:20,217
presented and a couple

8708
05:19:20,217 --> 05:19:23,217
supervisors who object to one

8709
05:19:23,420 --> 05:19:25,550
part of the item. So I don't

8710
05:19:25,550 --> 05:19:27,125
know. Do we need to call the

8711
05:19:27,125 --> 05:19:28,792
roll here? Go ahead, call the

8712
05:19:28,792 --> 05:19:32,392
roll. We have a motion, moved

8713
05:19:38,690 --> 05:19:40,204
and seconded.. There's 3 of us

8714
05:19:40,204 --> 05:19:40,438
who want to keep it at three

8715
05:19:40,438 --> 05:19:41,272
minutes

8716
05:19:41,272 --> 05:19:42,407
>>don wagner: I'll withdraw.

8717
05:19:42,407 --> 05:19:43,841
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.

8718
05:19:43,841 --> 05:19:46,241
I'll move the recommended

8719
05:19:47,812 --> 05:19:48,580
action with three minutes..

8720
05:19:48,580 --> 05:19:51,115
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay, I

8721
05:19:51,115 --> 05:19:54,715
will object to that myself, to

8722
05:19:55,353 --> 05:19:59,124
that part of the item. But the

8723
05:19:59,124 --> 05:20:02,760
rest I agree to. And looks like

8724
05:20:02,760 --> 05:20:04,762
we have un anymore mitt on all

8725
05:20:04,762 --> 05:20:08,650
of the rest. So with that,

8726
05:20:08,650 --> 05:20:11,665
we'll move on, unanimity on all

8727
05:20:21,979 --> 05:20:22,613
of the rest. Supplement 94x.

8728
05:20:22,613 --> 05:20:23,214
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94x.

8729
05:20:23,214 --> 05:20:23,881
Under supervisor sarmiento-

8730
05:20:23,881 --> 05:20:25,490
orange county cemetery district

8731
05:20:25,490 --> 05:20:27,850
-appoint donna marsh peery, tustin,

8732
05:20:27,850 --> 05:20:29,485
to complete term ending 1/3/28

8733
05:20:29,887 --> 05:20:30,880
and we have no requests to

8734
05:20:30,880 --> 05:20:31,822
speak.

8735
05:20:31,822 --> 05:20:33,424
>>chair, doug chaffee: moved and

8736
05:20:33,424 --> 05:20:35,359
seconded, any objection? Item

8737
05:20:35,359 --> 05:20:38,359
is approved. We come to

8738
05:20:38,363 --> 05:20:38,997
supplement 94z.

8739
05:20:38,997 --> 05:20:39,663
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94z.

8740
05:20:39,663 --> 05:20:40,264
Under county executive office-

8741
05:20:40,264 --> 05:20:40,898
approve new ground lease

8742
05:20:40,898 --> 05:20:41,599
agreements with dphp hotels, llc

8743
05:20:41,599 --> 05:20:42,366
including full service hotel

8744
05:20:42,366 --> 05:20:43,100
ground lease and select-service

8745
05:20:43,100 --> 05:20:43,868
hotel ground lease for hotel

8746
05:20:43,868 --> 05:20:44,568
component, with dana point

8747
05:20:44,568 --> 05:20:46,136
harbor partners, llc for

8748
05:20:46,136 --> 05:20:46,871
commercial core and marina component,

8749
05:20:46,871 --> 05:20:47,672
and with dana point harbor

8750
05:20:47,672 --> 05:20:48,406
partners drystack, llc for

8751
05:20:48,406 --> 05:20:49,173
drystack components of dana

8752
05:20:49,173 --> 05:20:49,908
point harbor revitalization

8753
05:20:49,908 --> 05:20:50,742
project, 66-year terms; approve

8754
05:20:50,742 --> 05:20:51,543
memorandum of understanding

8755
05:20:51,543 --> 05:20:52,210
(Mou) With dana point harbor

8756
05:20:52,210 --> 05:20:54,612
partners, llc for intention to

8757
05:20:54,612 --> 05:20:56,447
negotiate lease and lease

8758
05:20:56,447 --> 05:20:57,815
amendment at oc sailing & events

8759
05:20:57,815 --> 05:20:59,500
center within 180 days; and

8760
05:20:59,500 --> 05:21:01,450
authorize chief real estate

8761
05:21:04,880 --> 05:21:06,488
officer or designee to

8762
05:21:07,224 --> 05:21:09,224
execute lease agreements,

8763
05:21:11,562 --> 05:21:13,962
amendments, mou and related

8764
05:21:18,169 --> 05:21:20,138
documents under certain conditions

8765
05:21:20,138 --> 05:21:23,138
and MR. Chair, we've received

8766
05:21:28,513 --> 05:21:29,814
six requests to speak on s94z..

8767
05:21:29,814 --> 05:21:32,214
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

8768
05:21:33,784 --> 05:21:34,719
call the speakers

8769
05:21:34,719 --> 05:21:37,119
>>clerk, robin stieler: mayor

8770
05:21:38,356 --> 05:21:41,956
john gabard and eubanks and lisa

8771
05:21:42,961 --> 05:21:45,361
h, please come forward.

8772
05:21:47,232 --> 05:21:49,232
>>speaker: chair, supervisors,

8773
05:21:49,901 --> 05:21:51,904
I'm john cab done, mayor of dana

8774
05:21:51,904 --> 05:21:53,639
point. The harbor is owned by

8775
05:21:53,639 --> 05:21:56,730
all of us but managed by and

8776
05:21:56,730 --> 05:21:58,143
governed by u-5, and I need your

8777
05:21:58,143 --> 05:21:59,978
help. I'm here in support of

8778
05:21:59,978 --> 05:22:01,913
advancing the dana point harbors

8779
05:22:01,913 --> 05:22:03,414
hotel projects. The hotels

8780
05:22:03,414 --> 05:22:04,449
represent a major economic

8781
05:22:04,449 --> 05:22:05,883
opportunity for the county and

8782
05:22:05,883 --> 05:22:07,586
the city of dana point. Beyond

8783
05:22:07,586 --> 05:22:09,187
the revenue this project will

8784
05:22:09,187 --> 05:22:11,222
generate jobs and increase

8785
05:22:11,222 --> 05:22:13,910
economic activity and elevate

8786
05:22:13,910 --> 05:22:15,127
dana point's harbor in what is

8787
05:22:15,127 --> 05:22:17,361
poseed to be a premier harbor

8788
05:22:17,361 --> 05:22:18,230
for the west coast. I must

8789
05:22:18,230 --> 05:22:20,598
express my concern that with the

8790
05:22:20,598 --> 05:22:22,600
proposed hotel lease access

8791
05:22:22,600 --> 05:22:24,235
right provision, quite simply

8792
05:22:24,235 --> 05:22:25,236
the provision threatens to

8793
05:22:25,236 --> 05:22:28,390
deliver these hotels and will

8794
05:22:28,390 --> 05:22:29,674
cause an $80 million loss in

8795
05:22:29,674 --> 05:22:31,209
dana point revenues. We have

8796
05:22:31,209 --> 05:22:32,143
seen abuse by county officials

8797
05:22:32,143 --> 05:22:34,579
and county employees before in

8798
05:22:34,579 --> 05:22:36,781
the harbor hotels. That history

8799
05:22:36,781 --> 05:22:38,182
underscores the need for clear,

8800
05:22:38,182 --> 05:22:40,552
enforceable standards to prevent

8801
05:22:40,552 --> 05:22:42,952
abuse and misuse. Accordingly,

8802
05:22:44,355 --> 05:22:47,391
I respectfully urge the board to

8803
05:22:47,391 --> 05:22:49,694
support the hotel changes and

8804
05:22:49,694 --> 05:22:51,363
revise the hotel lease to align

8805
05:22:51,363 --> 05:22:52,630
with the market standards

8806
05:22:52,630 --> 05:22:55,300
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

8807
05:22:55,667 --> 05:22:57,667
you, sir.

8808
05:22:59,738 --> 05:23:01,738
>>speaker: thank you.

8809
05:23:03,342 --> 05:23:05,544
>>speaker: I'm anne eubanks from

8810
05:23:05,544 --> 05:23:08,800
allysa viejo. I'm PRESIDENT Of

8811
05:23:08,800 --> 05:23:08,880
the dana point boaters

8812
05:23:08,880 --> 05:23:09,714
association. I had some

8813
05:23:09,714 --> 05:23:11,160
comments to make on the lease

8814
05:23:11,160 --> 05:23:13,416
today but decided for

8815
05:23:15,553 --> 05:23:17,953
clarification of transparency of

8816
05:23:18,690 --> 05:23:21,826
the board, wanted to pose two

8817
05:23:21,826 --> 05:23:23,529
questions. This agenda item was

8818
05:23:23,529 --> 05:23:24,996
supposedly added late friday

8819
05:23:24,996 --> 05:23:27,996
afternoon, but when checking the

8820
05:23:28,660 --> 05:23:29,635
agenda on sunday on the board of

8821
05:23:29,635 --> 05:23:31,603
supervisors' web site to didn't

8822
05:23:31,603 --> 05:23:32,170
show up. It wasn't until monday

8823
05:23:32,170 --> 05:23:33,939
morning, yesterday, that it

8824
05:23:33,939 --> 05:23:37,750
could be viewed by the public.

8825
05:23:37,750 --> 05:23:38,776
My question is, does this meet

8826
05:23:38,776 --> 05:23:40,912
brown act requirements if it's

8827
05:23:40,912 --> 05:23:42,847
not viewable by the public

8828
05:23:42,847 --> 05:23:45,840
within 72 hours of the meeting?

8829
05:23:45,840 --> 05:23:47,319
And since this is a 66-year

8830
05:23:47,319 --> 05:23:48,787
lease of public land use, I

8831
05:23:48,787 --> 05:23:50,922
believe extended notice is

8832
05:23:50,922 --> 05:23:52,757
required of 10-plus days or

8833
05:23:52,757 --> 05:23:54,860
more. Can you advise what was

8834
05:23:54,860 --> 05:23:57,362
the procedure used for extended

8835
05:23:57,362 --> 05:23:59,362
proper notification? Using

8836
05:23:59,398 --> 05:24:01,398
supervisor sarmiento's words,

8837
05:24:01,734 --> 05:24:04,936
this agenda item up here appears

8838
05:24:04,936 --> 05:24:07,720
to be all 11th hour. If

8839
05:24:07,720 --> 05:24:09,408
improper notice was used, then

8840
05:24:09,408 --> 05:24:11,676
this could invalidate actions

8841
05:24:11,676 --> 05:24:12,277
today. So I don't.

8842
05:24:12,277 --> 05:24:12,577
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

8843
05:24:12,577 --> 05:24:14,577
you, ma'am.

8844
05:24:15,648 --> 05:24:17,182
>>speaker: thank you.

8845
05:24:17,182 --> 05:24:18,983
>>clerk, robin stieler: and the

8846
05:24:18,983 --> 05:24:21,983
last three speakers, please come

8847
05:24:22,721 --> 05:24:24,556
forward, kate, joe, and bob

8848
05:24:24,556 --> 05:24:25,590
olson.

8849
05:24:25,590 --> 05:24:28,494
>>speaker: you are asking this

8850
05:24:28,494 --> 05:24:29,628
board to approve a 66-year

8851
05:24:29,628 --> 05:24:32,231
master ground lease, a decision

8852
05:24:32,231 --> 05:24:33,732
that will define the harbor for

8853
05:24:33,732 --> 05:24:35,534
two generations after dropping

8854
05:24:35,534 --> 05:24:37,670
the documents on the public at

8855
05:24:37,670 --> 05:24:38,671
7:22 A.M. The monday before the

8856
05:24:38,671 --> 05:24:40,205
meeting with the excuse that

8857
05:24:40,205 --> 05:24:42,240
they were still being finalized.

8858
05:24:42,240 --> 05:24:43,975
Let's be clear, this is not

8859
05:24:43,975 --> 05:24:46,780
governance. This is a

8860
05:24:46,780 --> 05:24:47,179
deliberate attempt to bypass

8861
05:24:47,179 --> 05:24:49,181
public scrutiny. I have

8862
05:24:49,181 --> 05:24:50,916
reviewed the minutes for every

8863
05:24:50,916 --> 05:24:53,118
dana point harbor oversight

8864
05:24:53,118 --> 05:24:54,887
advisory committee meeting in

8865
05:24:54,887 --> 05:24:57,287
2026. This committee is touted

8866
05:24:57,790 --> 05:25:00,893
by the fifth district as the

8867
05:25:00,893 --> 05:25:03,328
central hub for transparency. I

8868
05:25:03,328 --> 05:25:04,729
saw nothing in there about

8869
05:25:04,729 --> 05:25:07,729
combining all four of these

8870
05:25:08,300 --> 05:25:11,300
contracts into one signing here

8871
05:25:11,770 --> 05:25:14,770
today. We need leadership in

8872
05:25:15,410 --> 05:25:17,410
district 5 that restores

8873
05:25:17,476 --> 05:25:19,712
accountability. I am submitting

8874
05:25:19,712 --> 05:25:22,712
a formal request for due

8875
05:25:23,480 --> 05:25:24,683
diligence regarding item s94z.

8876
05:25:24,683 --> 05:25:26,151
I'm demanding you explain why

8877
05:25:26,151 --> 05:25:28,551
the oversight committee was

8878
05:25:28,587 --> 05:25:30,623
bypassed and why this 66-year

8879
05:25:30,623 --> 05:25:31,190
deal is being rushed through

8880
05:25:31,190 --> 05:25:31,389
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

8881
05:25:31,389 --> 05:25:33,389
you.

8882
05:25:36,771 --> 05:25:38,771
>>speaker: thank you.

8883
05:25:39,698 --> 05:25:41,634
>>speaker: hello. I'm joe, the

8884
05:25:41,634 --> 05:25:43,350
marine partner of dana point

8885
05:25:43,350 --> 05:25:45,710
harbor partners. We're really

8886
05:25:45,710 --> 05:25:46,239
excited about this project. We

8887
05:25:46,239 --> 05:25:48,640
have a goal of being completed

8888
05:25:48,640 --> 05:25:51,640
before the olympics, and that's

8889
05:25:52,111 --> 05:25:54,246
the goal of this item here. It

8890
05:25:54,246 --> 05:25:55,981
allows us to preserve the grand

8891
05:25:55,981 --> 05:25:57,683
pries we have with our current

8892
05:25:57,683 --> 05:25:59,919
lender, pack life, and allows us

8893
05:25:59,919 --> 05:26:01,354
to move forward with the hotels.

8894
05:26:01,354 --> 05:26:02,988
i look forward to your support.

8895
05:26:02,988 --> 05:26:04,988
Thank you..

8896
05:26:05,791 --> 05:26:08,394
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank you

8897
05:26:08,394 --> 05:26:10,394
you.

8898
05:26:11,130 --> 05:26:12,398
>>speaker: good morning. This

8899
05:26:12,398 --> 05:26:13,899
county has made a total disaster

8900
05:26:13,899 --> 05:26:16,899
of the renovations of the

8901
05:26:18,437 --> 05:26:19,939
harbor. It has become dana

8902
05:26:19,939 --> 05:26:20,773
point's train to nowhere. From

8903
05:26:20,773 --> 05:26:22,842
the beginning it took years to

8904
05:26:22,842 --> 05:26:25,842
approve the design, then they

8905
05:26:25,878 --> 05:26:28,181
selected design that has no

8906
05:26:28,181 --> 05:26:29,915
architectural integrity, which

8907
05:26:29,915 --> 05:26:33,553
is to the area which is a

8908
05:26:33,553 --> 05:26:35,188
travesty. The cost overruns and

8909
05:26:35,188 --> 05:26:36,656
decisions to outsource

8910
05:26:36,656 --> 05:26:38,657
construction of the moorings is

8911
05:26:38,657 --> 05:26:41,327
another example of fraud and

8912
05:26:41,327 --> 05:26:43,727
waste. The uncertainty and

8913
05:26:44,163 --> 05:26:45,398
delays to businesses and marine

8914
05:26:45,398 --> 05:26:47,499
communities has been devastated.

8915
05:26:47,499 --> 05:26:48,901
Now they want to give away more

8916
05:26:48,901 --> 05:26:51,301
money due to their

8917
05:26:51,771 --> 05:26:52,771
mismanagement. The board of

8918
05:26:52,771 --> 05:26:54,440
supervisors have been

8919
05:26:54,440 --> 05:26:58,400
responsible for all of this for

8920
05:27:01,948 --> 05:27:04,850
the past 15 years. Thank you.

8921
05:27:04,850 --> 05:27:07,860
>>speaker: hi, my name is bob

8922
05:27:07,860 --> 05:27:09,622
olson. I am the -- one of

8923
05:27:09,622 --> 05:27:11,958
partners of dana point harbor

8924
05:27:11,958 --> 05:27:13,459
partners, rd olson, and in

8925
05:27:13,459 --> 05:27:15,894
charge of hotels. Just to tell

8926
05:27:15,894 --> 05:27:17,330
you a little bit, one of our

8927
05:27:17,330 --> 05:27:18,898
hotels -- both of our hotels

8928
05:27:18,898 --> 05:27:19,732
have gone through coastal

8929
05:27:19,732 --> 05:27:22,132
commission, six years through

8930
05:27:23,936 --> 05:27:24,871
the process. We have -- are

8931
05:27:24,871 --> 05:27:26,606
providing one of the hotels as

8932
05:27:26,606 --> 05:27:28,907
an affordable rate hotel, which

8933
05:27:28,907 --> 05:27:31,110
is rate restricted, will be the

8934
05:27:31,110 --> 05:27:33,110
first privately-financed hotel

8935
05:27:33,579 --> 05:27:35,979
such like that. Additionally,

8936
05:27:36,749 --> 05:27:38,150
we are providing social justice

8937
05:27:38,150 --> 05:27:39,419
programs through our hotels at

8938
05:27:39,419 --> 05:27:42,755
the site. Also working with the

8939
05:27:42,755 --> 05:27:46,355
county on that. There is one

8940
05:27:46,392 --> 05:27:48,792
provision that we're requesting

8941
05:27:50,290 --> 05:27:51,931
to remove from our -- the lease.

8942
05:27:51,931 --> 05:27:53,266
I think it's reasonable

8943
05:27:53,266 --> 05:27:54,400
request. We do not have a

8944
05:27:54,400 --> 05:27:56,402
lender on board yet, and we will

8945
05:27:56,402 --> 05:27:57,904
need to have their support to

8946
05:27:57,904 --> 05:27:59,438
make this happen. Thank you.

8947
05:27:59,438 --> 05:28:00,573
>>clerk, robin stieler: no

8948
05:28:00,573 --> 05:28:01,974
further speakers, MR. Chair..

8949
05:28:01,974 --> 05:28:04,374
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

8950
05:28:05,211 --> 05:28:08,814
Yes, thank you. I had it passed

8951
05:28:08,814 --> 05:28:09,248
out and don't know -- dph

8952
05:28:09,248 --> 05:28:09,782
recommended action.

8953
05:28:09,782 --> 05:28:10,416
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

8954
05:28:10,416 --> 05:28:12,285
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'm going to make

8955
05:28:12,285 --> 05:28:13,987
a motion related to that. I

8956
05:28:13,987 --> 05:28:16,356
wanted you to have it, but first

8957
05:28:16,356 --> 05:28:17,190
I have a question for MR. Page.

8958
05:28:17,190 --> 05:28:18,658
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay. I

8959
05:28:18,658 --> 05:28:19,226
was just now reading it.

8960
05:28:19,226 --> 05:28:21,940
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

8961
05:28:21,940 --> 05:28:21,994
just passed it out to you, yes

8962
05:28:21,994 --> 05:28:22,663
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

8963
05:28:22,663 --> 05:28:23,997
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

8964
05:28:23,997 --> 05:28:25,498
MR. Page, there was a concern

8965
05:28:25,498 --> 05:28:28,498
expressed that we needed 10-days

8966
05:28:28,701 --> 05:28:31,370
in order to hear this item

8967
05:28:31,370 --> 05:28:32,605
because of the 66-year lease.

8968
05:28:32,605 --> 05:28:34,874
I'm just parroting what the

8969
05:28:34,874 --> 05:28:35,108
public said. You can please

8970
05:28:35,108 --> 05:28:36,909
advise.

8971
05:28:36,909 --> 05:28:37,543
>>leon page: I'm not aware of

8972
05:28:37,543 --> 05:28:39,943
that requirement. With respect

8973
05:28:40,813 --> 05:28:41,648
to the brown act's in thing

8974
05:28:41,648 --> 05:28:44,480
requirements, as the school

8975
05:28:44,500 --> 05:28:46,386
board aware, each and every item

8976
05:28:46,386 --> 05:28:47,588
of business ought to be

8977
05:28:47,588 --> 05:28:49,323
transacted or discussed by the

8978
05:28:49,323 --> 05:28:50,290
board, has to be published on a

8979
05:28:50,290 --> 05:28:52,690
notice agenda 72 hours in

8980
05:28:53,590 --> 05:28:54,600
advance of the meeting. And I'm

8981
05:28:54,600 --> 05:28:57,600
looking at agendas for this

8982
05:28:59,899 --> 05:29:01,670
meeting, and it was last updated

8983
05:29:01,670 --> 05:29:03,360
6:19-2026 at 4:20 P.M. So that's

8984
05:29:03,360 --> 05:29:04,671
in compliance with the 72-hour

8985
05:29:04,671 --> 05:29:06,573
requirement. The requirement

8986
05:29:06,573 --> 05:29:07,774
does not apply with attachments.

8987
05:29:07,774 --> 05:29:09,176
That's often the case with

8988
05:29:09,176 --> 05:29:10,109
county business. We have the

8989
05:29:10,109 --> 05:29:11,578
recommended actions in place.

8990
05:29:11,578 --> 05:29:13,280
We have the items of businesses

8991
05:29:13,280 --> 05:29:14,714
to be trance acted or discussed

8992
05:29:14,714 --> 05:29:16,950
described. But we still might

8993
05:29:16,950 --> 05:29:19,119
be making, you know, a tweak to

8994
05:29:19,119 --> 05:29:20,854
an attachment, and that's

8995
05:29:20,854 --> 05:29:22,456
standard practice..

8996
05:29:22,456 --> 05:29:24,191
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

8997
05:29:24,191 --> 05:29:25,392
you. MR. CHAIRMAN.

8998
05:29:25,392 --> 05:29:25,592
>>chair, doug chaffee: yes, go

8999
05:29:25,592 --> 05:29:26,259
ahead.

9000
05:29:26,259 --> 05:29:27,694
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank

9001
05:29:27,694 --> 05:29:29,798
you. So I remain excited about

9002
05:29:29,798 --> 05:29:31,531
the harbor and the

9003
05:29:31,531 --> 05:29:32,432
revitalization project. It's

9004
05:29:32,432 --> 05:29:34,567
going to bring a lot of jobs, a

9005
05:29:34,567 --> 05:29:37,567
lot of revenue. It's improving

9006
05:29:38,504 --> 05:29:40,904
the water quality. It's

9007
05:29:42,410 --> 05:29:43,543
modernizing an area that is in

9008
05:29:43,543 --> 05:29:45,943
desperate need of modernization,

9009
05:29:47,380 --> 05:29:48,582
and for the last three years

9010
05:29:48,582 --> 05:29:51,618
since I joined the board as the

9011
05:29:51,618 --> 05:29:53,618
district 5 representative, I've

9012
05:29:53,920 --> 05:29:56,824
really tried to be an asset, an

9013
05:29:56,824 --> 05:29:59,726
ally and a supporter of moving

9014
05:29:59,726 --> 05:30:02,726
the project forward. I know

9015
05:30:03,930 --> 05:30:05,132
alyssa napori and my -- in my

9016
05:30:05,132 --> 05:30:06,567
office and I have worked a lot

9017
05:30:06,567 --> 05:30:08,435
on getting the coastal

9018
05:30:08,435 --> 05:30:10,435
commission permitting, making

9019
05:30:11,138 --> 05:30:14,474
sure that all of the boater

9020
05:30:14,474 --> 05:30:16,900
questions are answered,

9021
05:30:16,900 --> 05:30:16,810
developing good working

9022
05:30:16,810 --> 05:30:19,810
relationships with all of the

9023
05:30:19,813 --> 05:30:22,213
stakeholder groups. But, of

9024
05:30:22,249 --> 05:30:24,649
course, you can't please

9025
05:30:29,924 --> 05:30:31,391
everyone. And my concern is

9026
05:30:31,391 --> 05:30:33,460
that -- I'm very concerned with

9027
05:30:33,460 --> 05:30:35,162
the mayor's comments. I'll just

9028
05:30:35,162 --> 05:30:36,930
say that. I thought that was a

9029
05:30:36,930 --> 05:30:38,532
little over the top. But for

9030
05:30:38,532 --> 05:30:41,532
the board's awareness and for

9031
05:30:43,360 --> 05:30:46,360
the public's awareness, in an

9032
05:30:49,420 --> 05:30:50,444
effort to what I would consider

9033
05:30:50,444 --> 05:30:52,790
correct, the development

9034
05:30:52,790 --> 05:30:54,548
agreement that was approved by a

9035
05:30:54,548 --> 05:30:57,518
prior board, you know, nearly 10

9036
05:30:57,518 --> 05:31:00,518
years ago, we, working with

9037
05:31:01,187 --> 05:31:04,191
county real estate and the ceo's

9038
05:31:04,191 --> 05:31:07,294
office -- we really tried to get

9039
05:31:07,294 --> 05:31:10,294
more public benefit for the

9040
05:31:11,365 --> 05:31:14,365
residents and the visitors of

9041
05:31:14,368 --> 05:31:16,203
the harbor for the county. And

9042
05:31:16,203 --> 05:31:18,603
in exchange for the

9043
05:31:18,939 --> 05:31:20,941
consideration of the additional

9044
05:31:20,941 --> 05:31:22,710
years, the additional

9045
05:31:22,710 --> 05:31:24,411
entitlement. So we tried to get

9046
05:31:24,411 --> 05:31:27,114
a higher percentage of rent

9047
05:31:27,114 --> 05:31:28,849
payments because we thought that

9048
05:31:28,849 --> 05:31:31,819
the contract that was originally

9049
05:31:31,819 --> 05:31:34,880
negotiated was low. We tried to

9050
05:31:34,880 --> 05:31:35,589
get a minimum annual rent

9051
05:31:35,589 --> 05:31:37,291
payment increase based on

9052
05:31:37,291 --> 05:31:39,691
financing success, like, for

9053
05:31:40,160 --> 05:31:41,662
example, if they refinance upon

9054
05:31:41,662 --> 05:31:43,397
closing that financing event,

9055
05:31:43,397 --> 05:31:44,297
the minimum rent could increase,

9056
05:31:44,297 --> 05:31:45,900
ensuring that the county

9057
05:31:45,900 --> 05:31:47,368
receives a fair shaver the

9058
05:31:47,368 --> 05:31:49,368
tenants' increased financial

9059
05:31:50,271 --> 05:31:53,271
capacity. We tried to shorten

9060
05:31:54,800 --> 05:31:55,776
or eliminate the construction

9061
05:31:55,776 --> 05:31:57,312
rent abatement periods related

9062
05:31:57,312 --> 05:31:59,447
to the annual minimum rent or

9063
05:31:59,447 --> 05:32:00,414
percentage rent. As an example,

9064
05:32:00,414 --> 05:32:01,982
there's a construction period.

9065
05:32:01,982 --> 05:32:05,180
So the delay in the county

9066
05:32:05,180 --> 05:32:06,553
receiving funds while the hotels

9067
05:32:06,553 --> 05:32:08,856
get into operational mode.

9068
05:32:08,856 --> 05:32:09,557
Well, at the time it wasn't

9069
05:32:09,557 --> 05:32:11,725
contemplated that the olympics

9070
05:32:11,725 --> 05:32:13,940
was coming and that those hotels

9071
05:32:13,940 --> 05:32:16,230
would be filled up maybe a lot

9072
05:32:16,230 --> 05:32:18,699
more quickly. We tried to get

9073
05:32:18,699 --> 05:32:20,267
additional improvements, not

9074
05:32:20,267 --> 05:32:22,469
currently covered in the

9075
05:32:22,469 --> 05:32:24,805
contract. We requested that

9076
05:32:24,805 --> 05:32:25,706
dana point harbor partners make

9077
05:32:25,706 --> 05:32:28,106
additional improvements to the

9078
05:32:28,642 --> 05:32:30,878
harbor that would benefit the

9079
05:32:30,878 --> 05:32:32,580
county. Such improvements to be

9080
05:32:32,580 --> 05:32:33,881
upgrades to the common areas,

9081
05:32:33,881 --> 05:32:35,716
other enhancements that increase

9082
05:32:35,716 --> 05:32:38,753
the value of the property or the

9083
05:32:38,753 --> 05:32:41,753
usefulness to the county. We

9084
05:32:43,290 --> 05:32:45,626
tried to get support for the oc

9085
05:32:45,626 --> 05:32:47,896
c event center modernization.

9086
05:32:47,896 --> 05:32:50,231
New harbor patrol docks for the

9087
05:32:50,231 --> 05:32:53,100
harbor patrol. The white sea

9088
05:32:53,100 --> 05:32:54,702
bass pins. We tried to

9089
05:32:54,702 --> 05:32:57,702
negotiate the slip fees, which

9090
05:33:02,509 --> 05:33:05,313
has been a very challenging

9091
05:33:05,313 --> 05:33:05,913
issue, we tried to get a slip

9092
05:33:05,913 --> 05:33:07,147
rate stabilization and a slip

9093
05:33:07,147 --> 05:33:10,747
rate formula that would be a

9094
05:33:11,586 --> 05:33:14,210
little bit more friendly. There

9095
05:33:14,210 --> 05:33:17,621
are elements that we could not

9096
05:33:18,526 --> 05:33:21,362
get agreement on, and so we --

9097
05:33:21,362 --> 05:33:22,396
the contract that is before you

9098
05:33:22,396 --> 05:33:26,100
is what ceo real estate and the

9099
05:33:26,100 --> 05:33:28,436
ceo's office was able to

9100
05:33:28,436 --> 05:33:31,372
negotiate. And one of those

9101
05:33:31,372 --> 05:33:33,908
elements was that the county

9102
05:33:33,908 --> 05:33:34,976
would have access, if the county

9103
05:33:34,976 --> 05:33:36,478
department heads wanted to have

9104
05:33:36,478 --> 05:33:37,945
a meeting in an available

9105
05:33:37,945 --> 05:33:39,948
meeting room that's not being

9106
05:33:39,948 --> 05:33:41,749
used, that's not being rebelled,

9107
05:33:41,749 --> 05:33:43,618
that they could have access --

9108
05:33:43,618 --> 05:33:45,120
that's not being rented, that

9109
05:33:45,120 --> 05:33:46,987
they could have access and use

9110
05:33:46,987 --> 05:33:48,322
that space for free of charge at

9111
05:33:48,322 --> 05:33:51,322
public harbor. That was not

9112
05:33:53,495 --> 05:33:56,495
agreed to. So I'm just

9113
05:33:58,366 --> 05:34:00,768
concerned that in this situation

9114
05:34:00,768 --> 05:34:03,104
the principal to whom much

9115
05:34:03,104 --> 05:34:06,104
is given, much is required,

9116
05:34:07,742 --> 05:34:11,342
seems not to follow. So I've

9117
05:34:11,512 --> 05:34:13,781
passed out some edits that --

9118
05:34:13,781 --> 05:34:15,483
and a proposal that I have to

9119
05:34:15,483 --> 05:34:18,483
address some of the concerns

9120
05:34:20,588 --> 05:34:22,891
that have been raised and that

9121
05:34:22,891 --> 05:34:26,491
could not get negotiated. And I

9122
05:34:27,429 --> 05:34:29,798
would ask that these items be

9123
05:34:29,798 --> 05:34:32,200
added to the lease agreement.

9124
05:34:32,200 --> 05:34:34,468
And I'll just read it into the

9125
05:34:34,468 --> 05:34:36,805
record. So direct ceo real

9126
05:34:36,805 --> 05:34:39,740
estate and county counsel, to

9127
05:34:39,740 --> 05:34:40,474
revise attachment a, the master

9128
05:34:40,474 --> 05:34:42,874
ground lease hotel component

9129
05:34:43,770 --> 05:34:45,246
lease with dana harbor partners

9130
05:34:45,246 --> 05:34:46,648
llc to require a labor piece

9131
05:34:46,648 --> 05:34:48,950
agreement for future hotel

9132
05:34:48,950 --> 05:34:49,817
operations at dana point harbor.

9133
05:34:49,817 --> 05:34:51,319
A labor peace agreement is a

9134
05:34:51,319 --> 05:34:52,287
written agreement between a

9135
05:34:52,287 --> 05:34:54,222
hotel employer and the labor

9136
05:34:54,222 --> 05:34:56,424
organization that protects hotel

9137
05:34:56,424 --> 05:34:58,793
operations from labor disruption

9138
05:34:58,793 --> 05:35:00,495
by prohibiting strikes,

9139
05:35:00,495 --> 05:35:02,197
picketing, boycotts, worker

9140
05:35:02,197 --> 05:35:04,132
stoppages, slowdowns or other

9141
05:35:04,132 --> 05:35:04,767
economic activity that would

9142
05:35:04,767 --> 05:35:06,100
interfere with the operations.

9143
05:35:06,100 --> 05:35:08,469
The requirement does not require

9144
05:35:08,469 --> 05:35:11,373
the hotel to be unionized,

9145
05:35:11,373 --> 05:35:12,840
compel recognition of any

9146
05:35:12,840 --> 05:35:14,108
specific labor organization,

9147
05:35:14,108 --> 05:35:16,108
dictate any representation,

9148
05:35:16,511 --> 05:35:17,478
outcome or require any party to

9149
05:35:17,478 --> 05:35:19,810
violate federal or state labor

9150
05:35:19,810 --> 05:35:19,881
law. The reason I'm asking for

9151
05:35:19,881 --> 05:35:22,881
this is because I've been

9152
05:35:22,917 --> 05:35:24,386
contacted by unite here who has

9153
05:35:24,386 --> 05:35:26,755
expressed concern about not

9154
05:35:26,755 --> 05:35:30,355
having a plan for the workers

9155
05:35:31,326 --> 05:35:33,327
once the building is torn down.

9156
05:35:33,327 --> 05:35:34,829
Direct county staff -- number 2,

9157
05:35:34,829 --> 05:35:38,200
direct county staff to work with

9158
05:35:38,200 --> 05:35:41,200
the current hotelier and develop

9159
05:35:41,336 --> 05:35:42,537
our oc workforce solutions and

9160
05:35:42,537 --> 05:35:43,705
the state employment development

9161
05:35:43,705 --> 05:35:45,390
department to support employees

9162
05:35:45,390 --> 05:35:46,410
impacted by the planned hotel

9163
05:35:46,410 --> 05:35:47,575
closure and demolition and

9164
05:35:47,575 --> 05:35:49,811
create a workforce transition

9165
05:35:49,811 --> 05:35:52,581
plan. This work should include

9166
05:35:52,581 --> 05:35:54,981
confirmation of any applicable

9167
05:35:54,983 --> 05:35:56,484
warrant act notice obligations,

9168
05:35:56,484 --> 05:35:58,884
rapid response services, job

9169
05:35:58,921 --> 05:36:00,322
placement assistance, retraining

9170
05:36:00,322 --> 05:36:01,256
resources, unemployment

9171
05:36:01,256 --> 05:36:02,758
insurance information,

9172
05:36:02,758 --> 05:36:03,525
coordination with nearby

9173
05:36:03,525 --> 05:36:04,492
hospitality employers for

9174
05:36:04,492 --> 05:36:06,492
potential reemployment

9175
05:36:06,494 --> 05:36:08,263
opportunities and identifying

9176
05:36:08,263 --> 05:36:10,663
the number of effected

9177
05:36:11,132 --> 05:36:13,132
employees, anticipated closure

9178
05:36:13,235 --> 05:36:14,903
timeline and employee

9179
05:36:14,903 --> 05:36:16,903
classifications, proposed notice

9180
05:36:17,272 --> 05:36:19,608
schedule and available severance

9181
05:36:19,608 --> 05:36:20,308
benefits transfer or recall

9182
05:36:20,308 --> 05:36:21,109
opportunities. This is

9183
05:36:21,109 --> 05:36:22,544
important because the building

9184
05:36:22,544 --> 05:36:23,679
will be torn down within the

9185
05:36:23,679 --> 05:36:25,280
next three months and -- maybe

9186
05:36:25,280 --> 05:36:27,810
four. And so many people are

9187
05:36:27,810 --> 05:36:28,249
going to be losing their jobs,

9188
05:36:28,249 --> 05:36:30,919
and that has not yet been

9189
05:36:30,919 --> 05:36:33,319
addressed in these negotiations.

9190
05:36:34,560 --> 05:36:35,724
Number 3, direct ceo real

9191
05:36:35,724 --> 05:36:37,993
estate county counsel who revise

9192
05:36:37,993 --> 05:36:40,962
attachment b, the master grand

9193
05:36:40,962 --> 05:36:42,664
lease commercial corps marina

9194
05:36:42,664 --> 05:36:45,664
exoan went dana point harbor

9195
05:36:46,268 --> 05:36:47,903
partners llc, section 11.9, to

9196
05:36:47,903 --> 05:36:49,404
establish a slip rate

9197
05:36:49,404 --> 05:36:50,939
stabilization policy for future

9198
05:36:50,939 --> 05:36:53,842
slip rental rate increases after

9199
05:36:53,842 --> 05:36:54,976
the JULY 1st, 2026 adjustment,

9200
05:36:54,976 --> 05:36:56,445
including the following

9201
05:36:56,445 --> 05:36:58,445
requirements. Require any

9202
05:36:59,915 --> 05:37:01,490
future slip rate increase to be

9203
05:37:01,490 --> 05:37:03,786
submitted to the ceo real estate

9204
05:37:03,786 --> 05:37:05,687
office at least 90 days before

9205
05:37:05,687 --> 05:37:07,890
the proposed effective date.

9206
05:37:07,890 --> 05:37:08,891
Require each proposed slip rate

9207
05:37:08,891 --> 05:37:11,761
increase to include a detailed

9208
05:37:11,761 --> 05:37:12,561
marina slip survey of comparable

9209
05:37:12,561 --> 05:37:14,961
southern california marinas from

9210
05:37:14,964 --> 05:37:17,199
santa barbara to san diego with

9211
05:37:17,199 --> 05:37:18,501
emphasis on comparable,

9212
05:37:18,501 --> 05:37:20,302
publically-owned marinas. Limit

9213
05:37:20,302 --> 05:37:21,504
annual slip rate increases to

9214
05:37:21,504 --> 05:37:23,338
cumulative change in the

9215
05:37:23,338 --> 05:37:26,308
consumer price index and cap any

9216
05:37:26,308 --> 05:37:28,610
annual increase at 5% per slip

9217
05:37:28,610 --> 05:37:30,746
size category unless a

9218
05:37:30,746 --> 05:37:31,746
fifth-year market adjustment

9219
05:37:31,746 --> 05:37:33,746
applies. Beginning in 2030,

9220
05:37:33,983 --> 05:37:35,551
allow a fifth-year market

9221
05:37:35,551 --> 05:37:37,951
adjustment above cumulative cpi

9222
05:37:38,320 --> 05:37:39,821
only when supported by a marina

9223
05:37:39,821 --> 05:37:41,591
slip survey conducted by a

9224
05:37:41,591 --> 05:37:43,591
credentialed appraiser. And

9225
05:37:44,159 --> 05:37:45,995
finally require the fifth-year

9226
05:37:45,995 --> 05:37:46,896
market survey to include

9227
05:37:46,896 --> 05:37:48,430
operable southern california

9228
05:37:48,430 --> 05:37:50,198
publically-owned marinas and

9229
05:37:50,198 --> 05:37:53,198
prohibit reliance on a single

9230
05:37:53,669 --> 05:37:56,105
harbor such as newport beach.

9231
05:37:56,105 --> 05:37:57,506
F, cap any fifth-year market

9232
05:37:57,506 --> 05:38:00,900
adjustment at 10%. So these are

9233
05:38:00,900 --> 05:38:03,780
the additions that I would like

9234
05:38:03,780 --> 05:38:05,481
to include in the motion to

9235
05:38:05,481 --> 05:38:07,481
approve the staff-recommended

9236
05:38:07,616 --> 05:38:11,816
action. And I have one for real

9237
05:38:13,222 --> 05:38:13,689
state, as well..

9238
05:38:13,689 --> 05:38:14,423
>>chair, doug chaffee:

9239
05:38:14,423 --> 05:38:15,392
supervisor wagner

9240
05:38:15,392 --> 05:38:17,590
>>don wagner: I will move the

9241
05:38:17,590 --> 05:38:19,459
item without the recommendations

9242
05:38:21,564 --> 05:38:25,164
that were just dropped on us.

9243
05:38:25,500 --> 05:38:27,836
The idea, you know, to whom much

9244
05:38:27,836 --> 05:38:32,360
is given much is owed is fine,

9245
05:38:32,174 --> 05:38:33,175
and it's right. The suggestion

9246
05:38:33,175 --> 05:38:35,575
that the developers throughout

9247
05:38:36,112 --> 05:38:40,312
are not in fact giving to the

9248
05:38:40,749 --> 05:38:42,151
county, though, is not at all

9249
05:38:42,151 --> 05:38:43,850
supported by the record. In

9250
05:38:43,850 --> 05:38:44,487
fact, the county stands to

9251
05:38:44,487 --> 05:38:48,870
benefit to the tune of millions

9252
05:38:49,692 --> 05:38:51,461
of dollars from this proposal,

9253
05:38:51,461 --> 05:38:55,610
and the changes that were just

9254
05:38:55,932 --> 05:38:56,800
sort of dropped on us, forget

9255
05:38:56,800 --> 05:38:58,534
whether they're workable. They

9256
05:38:58,534 --> 05:39:01,370
haven't been vetted by anybody

9257
05:39:01,370 --> 05:39:04,206
in the first place. I'm certain

9258
05:39:04,206 --> 05:39:06,709
it would cause the hoteliers to

9259
05:39:06,709 --> 05:39:07,777
spim walk away from the deal

9260
05:39:07,777 --> 05:39:09,745
because -- simply walk away from

9261
05:39:09,745 --> 05:39:11,247
the deal because you cannot

9262
05:39:11,247 --> 05:39:14,247
finance the proposal that they

9263
05:39:15,985 --> 05:39:18,187
are trying to finance. You

9264
05:39:18,187 --> 05:39:20,322
cannot do what is trying to be

9265
05:39:20,322 --> 05:39:20,856
done here to the benefit of the

9266
05:39:20,856 --> 05:39:22,592
residents of all of orange

9267
05:39:22,592 --> 05:39:26,192
county to the benefit of the

9268
05:39:26,262 --> 05:39:28,662
county under these conditions.

9269
05:39:29,465 --> 05:39:32,670
This has been a long time

9270
05:39:32,670 --> 05:39:35,805
coming. The need to get it done

9271
05:39:35,805 --> 05:39:39,742
and get it done now is explained

9272
05:39:39,742 --> 05:39:41,377
by MR. Uberroth attempting to

9273
05:39:41,377 --> 05:39:42,912
reach the completion prior to

9274
05:39:42,912 --> 05:39:45,247
the L.A. Olympics, to benefit

9275
05:39:45,247 --> 05:39:47,350
from, to get the advantages to

9276
05:39:47,350 --> 05:39:48,951
the county, the city of dana

9277
05:39:48,951 --> 05:39:51,921
point that the olympics in our

9278
05:39:51,921 --> 05:39:56,121
backyard will give to us, to try

9279
05:39:56,525 --> 05:40:00,163
to hold that up now, you know,

9280
05:40:00,163 --> 05:40:02,698
frankly goes over the hog line.

9281
05:40:02,698 --> 05:40:05,201
Pigs get fat. We've been

9282
05:40:05,201 --> 05:40:06,569
negotiating. Pigs get fat, hogs

9283
05:40:06,569 --> 05:40:08,771
get slaughtered. This crosses

9284
05:40:08,771 --> 05:40:10,540
the hog line to me. The deal is

9285
05:40:10,540 --> 05:40:13,409
on the table. The deal has been

9286
05:40:13,409 --> 05:40:15,879
worked out very diligently by

9287
05:40:15,879 --> 05:40:18,180
staff, and we oughta just and

9288
05:40:18,180 --> 05:40:19,516
respect that staff work and

9289
05:40:19,516 --> 05:40:21,650
recognize an enormous benefit to

9290
05:40:21,650 --> 05:40:25,250
all of the people of orange

9291
05:40:27,824 --> 05:40:30,593
county as it stands and the

9292
05:40:30,593 --> 05:40:32,495
entire project grinds to a halt

9293
05:40:32,495 --> 05:40:35,650
we perhaps start over at ground

9294
05:40:35,650 --> 05:40:38,534
zero if we try to negotiate from

9295
05:40:38,534 --> 05:40:41,710
the dais and burden this project

9296
05:40:41,710 --> 05:40:43,907
as is proposed. So I will move

9297
05:40:43,907 --> 05:40:45,508
the recommended action as set

9298
05:40:45,508 --> 05:40:48,545
forth in our agenda by staff.

9299
05:40:48,545 --> 05:40:49,790
Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN..

9300
05:40:49,790 --> 05:40:50,413
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

9301
05:40:50,413 --> 05:40:53,283
right. I'm not sure, do we have

9302
05:40:53,283 --> 05:40:56,283
a motion from vice-chair foley

9303
05:40:56,285 --> 05:40:58,755
first? Was that a motion? So

9304
05:40:58,755 --> 05:41:01,791
we have two motions at moment.

9305
05:41:01,791 --> 05:41:02,580
And I would simply express one

9306
05:41:02,580 --> 05:41:03,993
concern --

9307
05:41:03,993 --> 05:41:04,728
>>don wagner: point of order,

9308
05:41:04,728 --> 05:41:06,696
MR. CHAIRMAN, review the tape.

9309
05:41:06,696 --> 05:41:08,631
What she said is she would like

9310
05:41:08,631 --> 05:41:10,266
to add these to the motion. She

9311
05:41:10,266 --> 05:41:10,466
didn't make a motion with

9312
05:41:10,466 --> 05:41:11,670
these.

9313
05:41:11,670 --> 05:41:13,269
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: my

9314
05:41:13,269 --> 05:41:13,469
motion at the staff recommended

9315
05:41:13,469 --> 05:41:14,938
action

9316
05:41:14,938 --> 05:41:16,405
>>don wagner: there was no such

9317
05:41:16,405 --> 05:41:16,639
motion and certainly no such

9318
05:41:16,639 --> 05:41:17,173
second.

9319
05:41:17,173 --> 05:41:18,842
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

9320
05:41:18,842 --> 05:41:19,976
that's what I said. There might

9321
05:41:19,976 --> 05:41:21,144
not have been the second but

9322
05:41:21,144 --> 05:41:22,378
definitely made the motion.

9323
05:41:22,378 --> 05:41:24,514
>>chair, doug chaffee: I

9324
05:41:24,514 --> 05:41:25,582
interpreted that as a motion,

9325
05:41:25,582 --> 05:41:28,582
actually, by the vice-chair. In

9326
05:41:29,352 --> 05:41:31,688
any case, that's a dilemma at

9327
05:41:31,688 --> 05:41:35,888
the moment. So when I looked at

9328
05:41:36,960 --> 05:41:37,627
it, I was concerned with demoing

9329
05:41:37,627 --> 05:41:39,863
buildings and then the people

9330
05:41:39,863 --> 05:41:40,464
who work there will not have a

9331
05:41:40,464 --> 05:41:42,464
play-offs employment anymore.

9332
05:41:42,465 --> 05:41:45,201
So I was hoping we would

9333
05:41:45,201 --> 05:41:46,360
consider calling worker

9334
05:41:46,360 --> 05:41:48,338
retention policies similar to

9335
05:41:48,338 --> 05:41:50,730
what we have at our airport when

9336
05:41:50,730 --> 05:41:51,707
some of the demo was going on

9337
05:41:51,707 --> 05:41:53,710
and stuff and it essentially

9338
05:41:53,710 --> 05:41:57,310
gives the workers kind of a

9339
05:41:57,614 --> 05:41:59,949
right to come back. So when the

9340
05:41:59,949 --> 05:42:00,583
project is finished, they have

9341
05:42:00,583 --> 05:42:04,183
the first opportunity to be back

9342
05:42:06,223 --> 05:42:07,758
on the staff. And so at this

9343
05:42:07,758 --> 05:42:09,459
point, neither motion has a

9344
05:42:09,459 --> 05:42:11,795
second. I will not sport

9345
05:42:11,795 --> 05:42:13,596
vice-chair's addition of these

9346
05:42:13,596 --> 05:42:15,899
things so late. I'm not sure

9347
05:42:15,899 --> 05:42:19,235
how they fit into the project.

9348
05:42:19,235 --> 05:42:19,502
That's where I'm at. Supervisor

9349
05:42:19,502 --> 05:42:21,271
sarmiento?

9350
05:42:21,271 --> 05:42:22,772
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

9351
05:42:22,772 --> 05:42:25,910
MR. Chair. Let me just, you

9352
05:42:25,910 --> 05:42:29,510
know, start by thanking matt and

9353
05:42:29,947 --> 05:42:34,147
soy la from our ceo -- county's

9354
05:42:35,352 --> 05:42:37,520
ceo team for a lot of work on

9355
05:42:37,520 --> 05:42:38,355
this. I know it's been

9356
05:42:38,355 --> 05:42:39,957
difficult to get to this point

9357
05:42:39,957 --> 05:42:41,425
and you had to coordinate work

9358
05:42:41,425 --> 05:42:42,859
with a lot of different

9359
05:42:42,859 --> 05:42:43,961
opinions. This is a very

9360
05:42:43,961 --> 05:42:46,290
special place so, you know, it

9361
05:42:46,290 --> 05:42:48,398
merits that time and it merits

9362
05:42:48,398 --> 05:42:50,767
that work. But I want to be

9363
05:42:50,767 --> 05:42:52,769
clear that I'm very supportive

9364
05:42:52,769 --> 05:42:54,504
of the redevelopment of dana

9365
05:42:54,504 --> 05:42:57,504
point harbor and the opportunity

9366
05:42:57,674 --> 05:43:00,577
to bring these two new hotels

9367
05:43:00,577 --> 05:43:01,678
that will create a long-term

9368
05:43:01,678 --> 05:43:03,714
economic benefit and revenue not

9369
05:43:03,714 --> 05:43:06,160
just to one district, but to the

9370
05:43:06,160 --> 05:43:09,616
entire county. This is a county

9371
05:43:11,288 --> 05:43:13,656
asset. So to the extent that we

9372
05:43:13,656 --> 05:43:15,325
proceed that way, you know, I'm

9373
05:43:15,325 --> 05:43:17,260
fully supportive. However, I do

9374
05:43:17,260 --> 05:43:20,260
have some concerns with the

9375
05:43:21,898 --> 05:43:25,135
timing, with the ability for us

9376
05:43:25,135 --> 05:43:26,737
to deliberate thoughtfully.

9377
05:43:26,737 --> 05:43:29,500
Somebody want to set my comments

9378
05:43:29,500 --> 05:43:32,109
to music. But it's okay. I

9379
05:43:32,109 --> 05:43:35,179
don't speak in rhythm. But we

9380
05:43:35,179 --> 05:43:38,779
did receive the asr and the

9381
05:43:39,716 --> 05:43:41,652
lease documents late friday

9382
05:43:41,652 --> 05:43:43,687
afternoon and it does comply

9383
05:43:43,687 --> 05:43:46,457
with the 72-hour rule. That

9384
05:43:46,457 --> 05:43:47,725
doesn't mean it's a good notice.

9385
05:43:47,725 --> 05:43:49,930
It just means it's a technical

9386
05:43:49,930 --> 05:43:52,930
notice. And then last night,

9387
05:43:52,129 --> 05:43:54,231
the evening before -- with, last

9388
05:43:54,231 --> 05:43:55,933
night, before this meeting, we

9389
05:43:55,933 --> 05:43:58,680
received some edits from the

9390
05:43:58,680 --> 05:44:01,668
developer for the mou and the

9391
05:44:02,206 --> 05:44:04,241
lease agreement. I understand

9392
05:44:04,241 --> 05:44:05,742
the developer's position.

9393
05:44:05,742 --> 05:44:07,578
Everything is always time

9394
05:44:07,578 --> 05:44:11,178
sengtive. Time is money when it

9395
05:44:11,282 --> 05:44:12,490
comes to trying to underwrite,

9396
05:44:12,490 --> 05:44:15,649
you know, a project like this.

9397
05:44:15,853 --> 05:44:18,155
I don't think anybody's going

9398
05:44:18,155 --> 05:44:20,390
anywhere. This is an important

9399
05:44:20,390 --> 05:44:21,693
development project. But I do

9400
05:44:21,693 --> 05:44:23,427
believe we need to address some

9401
05:44:23,427 --> 05:44:25,229
outstanding items before we take

9402
05:44:25,229 --> 05:44:27,298
action. I just saw the language

9403
05:44:27,298 --> 05:44:29,568
that was proposed by supervisor

9404
05:44:29,568 --> 05:44:32,703
foley. I, you know, just at a

9405
05:44:32,703 --> 05:44:34,338
glance, at a perusal, those are

9406
05:44:34,338 --> 05:44:35,539
things that I can support, but

9407
05:44:35,539 --> 05:44:36,340
that doesn't mean those are

9408
05:44:36,340 --> 05:44:38,576
things that we should just

9409
05:44:38,576 --> 05:44:39,477
tackle from up here. And I

9410
05:44:39,477 --> 05:44:40,477
remember, it's funny, we had a

9411
05:44:40,477 --> 05:44:42,412
letter from the commission to

9412
05:44:42,412 --> 05:44:44,214
address homelessness, and I

9413
05:44:44,214 --> 05:44:45,716
remember, you know, some of the

9414
05:44:45,716 --> 05:44:47,500
supervisors saying that they

9415
05:44:47,500 --> 05:44:47,618
were outraged to have a letter

9416
05:44:47,618 --> 05:44:48,719
before them because it was

9417
05:44:48,719 --> 05:44:50,787
delivered the night before, and

9418
05:44:50,787 --> 05:44:52,723
here we are with red line

9419
05:44:52,723 --> 05:44:55,559
versions of MOUs and lease

9420
05:44:55,559 --> 05:44:57,361
agreements, and it's good to go.

9421
05:44:57,361 --> 05:44:58,829
So I -- you know, I had think

9422
05:44:58,829 --> 05:45:01,980
that we should take the same

9423
05:45:01,980 --> 05:45:03,333
responsibility to make sure that

9424
05:45:03,333 --> 05:45:06,170
we thoroughly look at these, and

9425
05:45:06,170 --> 05:45:08,773
we've had an agenda that's had

9426
05:45:08,773 --> 05:45:10,407
over 100 items on it with our

9427
05:45:10,407 --> 05:45:11,909
budget. And so to be thoughtful

9428
05:45:11,909 --> 05:45:14,211
about tackling something as

9429
05:45:14,211 --> 05:45:17,147
immense as this that's going to

9430
05:45:17,147 --> 05:45:19,417
incumber us and have us in this

9431
05:45:19,417 --> 05:45:20,840
relationship for 66 years is

9432
05:45:20,840 --> 05:45:23,684
something that I think we need

9433
05:45:24,555 --> 05:45:28,492
more time on. So I know that

9434
05:45:28,492 --> 05:45:30,161
the cdp permit requires ej

9435
05:45:30,161 --> 05:45:30,994
programs for the underserved

9436
05:45:30,994 --> 05:45:31,829
youth, which is something very

9437
05:45:31,829 --> 05:45:33,397
important to me. I would like

9438
05:45:33,397 --> 05:45:36,167
to see that language also in the

9439
05:45:36,167 --> 05:45:37,680
lease so that youth from title 1

9440
05:45:37,680 --> 05:45:38,669
schools from the entire county

9441
05:45:38,669 --> 05:45:41,690
can benefit from experiencing

9442
05:45:41,672 --> 05:45:44,875
this asset. So MR. Miller, if

9443
05:45:44,875 --> 05:45:46,276
you can, just, you know, answer

9444
05:45:46,276 --> 05:45:47,879
this question from where you're

9445
05:45:47,879 --> 05:45:52,790
at or maybe come up to the

9446
05:46:00,580 --> 05:46:03,658
podium, it's very short. But he

9447
05:46:08,400 --> 05:46:09,990
just want to ask, can you

9448
05:46:09,990 --> 05:46:11,990
explain...

9449
05:46:11,335 --> 05:46:14,335
It's something that is so

9450
05:46:15,573 --> 05:46:19,173
critical at this point that we

9451
05:46:19,277 --> 05:46:20,779
need that we look at red line

9452
05:46:20,779 --> 05:46:21,612
versions. What are your

9453
05:46:21,612 --> 05:46:23,612
thoughts on that?

9454
05:46:23,814 --> 05:46:25,582
>>speaker: the time sensitivity

9455
05:46:25,582 --> 05:46:29,182
and the fact that we brought

9456
05:47:09,894 --> 05:47:11,463
[Pause in captioning]

9457
05:47:11,463 --> 05:47:12,564
After we've had a chance to live

9458
05:47:12,564 --> 05:47:13,531
with the red line versions and

9459
05:47:13,531 --> 05:47:15,366
some of the amendment actions

9460
05:47:15,366 --> 05:47:16,768
here. And again, some of my

9461
05:47:16,768 --> 05:47:18,636
colleagues mentioned receiving

9462
05:47:18,636 --> 05:47:20,500
this at the last moment, that's

9463
05:47:20,500 --> 05:47:21,305
not the most thoughtful and

9464
05:47:21,305 --> 05:47:22,974
intelligent way to proceed up

9465
05:47:22,974 --> 05:47:25,374
here, especially with something

9466
05:47:25,743 --> 05:47:28,790
as complicated as and involved

9467
05:47:28,790 --> 05:47:29,800
and profound as this. So

9468
05:47:29,800 --> 05:47:31,316
MR. Chair, I'll make a third

9469
05:47:31,316 --> 05:47:32,251
motion because the first tbro

9470
05:47:32,251 --> 05:47:33,752
didn't get a second, to continue

9471
05:47:33,752 --> 05:47:35,530
this item so we can have a

9472
05:47:35,530 --> 05:47:38,530
chance to understand it better

9473
05:47:39,624 --> 05:47:40,458
and come back with a much better

9474
05:47:40,458 --> 05:47:42,858
thoughtful recommended action on

9475
05:47:48,801 --> 05:47:50,569
all of thee items.

9476
05:47:50,569 --> 05:47:51,503
>>janet nguyen: I'm going to

9477
05:47:51,503 --> 05:47:53,503
second supervisor wagner's

9478
05:47:53,538 --> 05:47:57,676
motion. I guess what I want to

9479
05:47:57,676 --> 05:47:59,611
see though is more of a -- maybe

9480
05:47:59,611 --> 05:48:01,213
the developer can tell us why

9481
05:48:01,213 --> 05:48:03,715
it's urgent, why do you need it

9482
05:48:03,715 --> 05:48:07,915
today? Is it a loan thing? I

9483
05:48:09,821 --> 05:48:11,356
don't know. It would be helpful

9484
05:48:11,356 --> 05:48:13,225
for us to understand the urgency

9485
05:48:13,225 --> 05:48:15,225
of it

9486
05:48:15,961 --> 05:48:16,795
>>speaker: so we are two years

9487
05:48:16,795 --> 05:48:17,996
from the olympics being here in

9488
05:48:17,996 --> 05:48:19,698
southern california. And for us

9489
05:48:19,698 --> 05:48:21,199
to have a chance, that would

9490
05:48:21,199 --> 05:48:23,100
mean we would start demolition

9491
05:48:23,100 --> 05:48:26,601
in AUGUST, which is six weeks

9492
05:48:28,973 --> 05:48:30,275
from now. And get started on

9493
05:48:30,275 --> 05:48:32,543
very complicated projects to

9494
05:48:32,543 --> 05:48:35,947
build. Two years to get those

9495
05:48:35,947 --> 05:48:39,518
built, it's a risk to get done.

9496
05:48:39,518 --> 05:48:41,920
And so one of the hotels sits on

9497
05:48:41,920 --> 05:48:42,755
a podium which is a parking

9498
05:48:42,755 --> 05:48:44,122
structure and then we build the

9499
05:48:44,122 --> 05:48:45,557
building on top of that. So

9500
05:48:45,557 --> 05:48:47,957
complicated project but we

9501
05:48:51,930 --> 05:48:55,500
are -- so to lose 60 days is

9502
05:48:55,500 --> 05:48:55,667
really worrisome in getting it

9503
05:48:55,667 --> 05:48:56,635
done

9504
05:48:56,635 --> 05:48:58,803
>>janet nguyen: so what I'm

9505
05:48:58,803 --> 05:49:01,500
hearing then is that if we don't

9506
05:49:01,500 --> 05:49:01,907
approve today, with very to wait

9507
05:49:01,907 --> 05:49:04,907
until AUGUST because the next

9508
05:49:07,879 --> 05:49:08,780
board meeting is in AUGUST. At

9509
05:49:08,780 --> 05:49:10,415
least you have that timeframe

9510
05:49:10,415 --> 05:49:12,350
from now to AUGUST to hit the

9511
05:49:12,350 --> 05:49:14,520
ground running to start

9512
05:49:14,520 --> 05:49:14,686
demolition in AUGUST versus

9513
05:49:14,686 --> 05:49:17,155
waiting another two more months

9514
05:49:17,155 --> 05:49:18,690
from AUGUST, right

9515
05:49:18,690 --> 05:49:20,292
>>speaker: so the schedule

9516
05:49:20,292 --> 05:49:21,893
presented -- we presented a

9517
05:49:21,893 --> 05:49:23,528
detailed schedule to staff, and

9518
05:49:23,528 --> 05:49:24,997
by the way, staff has been

9519
05:49:24,997 --> 05:49:27,233
tremendous to work with. But it

9520
05:49:27,233 --> 05:49:28,801
shows there's a -- we have to

9521
05:49:28,801 --> 05:49:31,137
have a loan in place first. We

9522
05:49:31,137 --> 05:49:32,705
can't get a loan first without

9523
05:49:32,705 --> 05:49:34,940
understanding what the terms of

9524
05:49:34,940 --> 05:49:36,442
the lease are. And so once

9525
05:49:36,442 --> 05:49:40,642
the -- once we know what our

9526
05:49:42,615 --> 05:49:44,650
lease is, then we request close

9527
05:49:44,650 --> 05:49:47,500
our loan. Essentially this

9528
05:49:47,186 --> 05:49:49,388
would be a 60-day delay on a

9529
05:49:49,388 --> 05:49:50,210
schedule that's already very

9530
05:49:50,210 --> 05:49:52,210
tight.

9531
05:49:53,258 --> 05:49:56,610
>>janet nguyen: thank you. I

9532
05:49:56,610 --> 05:49:57,896
agree with some of what my

9533
05:49:57,896 --> 05:49:59,465
colleagues mentioned, this is an

9534
05:49:59,465 --> 05:50:00,233
asset to the county and not just

9535
05:50:00,233 --> 05:50:02,234
a particular district. When I

9536
05:50:02,234 --> 05:50:04,636
was here previously this was the

9537
05:50:04,636 --> 05:50:06,720
discussion of this item. It was

9538
05:50:06,720 --> 05:50:07,720
very, very contentious back

9539
05:50:07,720 --> 05:50:10,672
then, as well. It sounds like

9540
05:50:22,187 --> 05:50:23,722
it is still today. And so I do

9541
05:50:23,722 --> 05:50:25,224
appreciate the mayor spending

9542
05:50:25,224 --> 05:50:26,859
all day with us. So if we don't

9543
05:50:26,859 --> 05:50:28,794
have an action today, this will

9544
05:50:28,794 --> 05:50:30,963
then now look at a four-month

9545
05:50:30,963 --> 05:50:31,697
delay versus just a two-month

9546
05:50:31,697 --> 05:50:33,232
delay because of the 60 days,

9547
05:50:33,232 --> 05:50:34,634
having to get their loans,

9548
05:50:34,634 --> 05:50:38,234
having to do the demo and

9549
05:50:40,706 --> 05:50:42,541
et cetera. So I think there is

9550
05:50:42,541 --> 05:50:44,443
that urgency. If we don't care

9551
05:50:44,443 --> 05:50:45,878
for the olympics, then, you

9552
05:50:45,878 --> 05:50:46,378
know, that's something else. I

9553
05:50:46,378 --> 05:50:47,780
know we have two of our

9554
05:50:47,780 --> 05:50:49,780
colleagues here, supervisor

9555
05:50:49,882 --> 05:50:51,316
foley and sarmiento both on the

9556
05:50:51,316 --> 05:50:52,418
olympics committee.

9557
05:50:52,418 --> 05:50:54,120
. So if

9558
05:50:54,120 --> 05:50:56,121
that's the case, then that

9559
05:50:56,121 --> 05:50:58,390
throws it out and there's no

9560
05:50:58,390 --> 05:50:59,926
urgency then. But what I think,

9561
05:50:59,926 --> 05:51:00,927
though, it sounds like we have

9562
05:51:00,927 --> 05:51:03,528
been looking at the olympics.

9563
05:51:03,528 --> 05:51:04,664
We have been trying to

9564
05:51:04,664 --> 05:51:07,664
accommodate and work with the

9565
05:51:09,102 --> 05:51:10,690
different public agency, was

9566
05:51:10,690 --> 05:51:10,903
octa, different cities, you

9567
05:51:10,903 --> 05:51:12,720
know, the business community,

9568
05:51:12,720 --> 05:51:13,940
you name it.

9569
05:51:13,940 --> 05:51:16,750
The tourism community as well.

9570
05:51:16,750 --> 05:51:18,311
So I think, you know, if we can

9571
05:51:18,311 --> 05:51:20,711
get this complushed in 24

9572
05:51:21,314 --> 05:51:22,214
months, I think would be

9573
05:51:22,214 --> 05:51:23,816
valuable -- if we can get it

9574
05:51:23,816 --> 05:51:26,816
accomplished in 24 months. I do

9575
05:51:27,386 --> 05:51:30,386
have concern though, while I

9576
05:51:31,924 --> 05:51:32,459
appreciate and the additional

9577
05:51:32,459 --> 05:51:34,393
information or additional

9578
05:51:34,393 --> 05:51:35,328
recommendation by supervisor

9579
05:51:35,328 --> 05:51:36,896
foley, I think -- it's hard

9580
05:51:36,896 --> 05:51:38,898
because this is so complex, it's

9581
05:51:38,898 --> 05:51:42,340
very difficult for me to have

9582
05:51:42,340 --> 05:51:45,271
to, you know, dive through into

9583
05:51:45,271 --> 05:51:47,600
each of these and whether it

9584
05:51:47,600 --> 05:51:48,441
works or doesn't work and I want

9585
05:51:48,441 --> 05:51:50,309
to hear from real estate staff

9586
05:51:50,309 --> 05:51:50,843
as well. So I cannot support

9587
05:51:50,843 --> 05:51:52,711
something that's just been

9588
05:51:52,711 --> 05:51:54,380
brought to us now. And so

9589
05:51:54,380 --> 05:51:57,980
that's why I move forward in

9590
05:51:58,484 --> 05:52:00,484
supporting supervisor wagner's

9591
05:52:01,854 --> 05:52:02,855
proposal of the current

9592
05:52:02,855 --> 05:52:03,622
recommendation by staff.

9593
05:52:03,622 --> 05:52:06,220
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

9594
05:52:06,793 --> 05:52:08,694
you. I will second supervisor

9595
05:52:08,694 --> 05:52:10,930
sarmiento's motion. But first

9596
05:52:10,930 --> 05:52:13,330
we'll hear from supervisor

9597
05:52:13,566 --> 05:52:18,366
wagner and I think we do need a

9598
05:52:21,400 --> 05:52:24,276
roll call. This is the motion

9599
05:52:24,276 --> 05:52:25,979
to accept the staff report

9600
05:52:25,979 --> 05:52:27,979
without change

9601
05:52:35,188 --> 05:52:35,722
[Calling roll]

9602
05:52:35,722 --> 05:52:37,323
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

9603
05:52:37,323 --> 05:52:38,825
supervisor wagner.

9604
05:52:38,825 --> 05:52:39,580
>>chair, doug chaffee: we're

9605
05:52:39,580 --> 05:52:39,725
voting.

9606
05:52:39,725 --> 05:52:43,325
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: but I

9607
05:52:49,436 --> 05:52:52,720
need to ask him a question.

9608
05:52:52,720 --> 05:52:53,506
Motion requires 4/5ths. It does

9609
05:52:53,506 --> 05:52:55,742
not have it. I'd like to move

9610
05:52:55,742 --> 05:52:59,342
on to the motion proposed by

9611
05:52:59,446 --> 05:53:01,748
supervisor sarmiento,. This is

9612
05:53:01,748 --> 05:53:03,483
a 66-year lease. We want it to

9613
05:53:03,483 --> 05:53:04,885
be good for a long time. I'm

9614
05:53:04,885 --> 05:53:05,618
not really concerned if it's

9615
05:53:05,618 --> 05:53:06,586
ready to the olympics. That

9616
05:53:06,586 --> 05:53:07,921
doesn't really matter to me

9617
05:53:07,921 --> 05:53:10,190
because of the quality I want to

9618
05:53:10,190 --> 05:53:11,757
see put in it, I don't want it

9619
05:53:11,757 --> 05:53:15,957
rushed. I want it to be good

9620
05:53:16,596 --> 05:53:18,231
for all 66 years of that lease.

9621
05:53:18,231 --> 05:53:19,666
So I think all of these things

9622
05:53:19,666 --> 05:53:21,234
being literally dumped on us

9623
05:53:21,234 --> 05:53:23,370
last minute, I don't know where

9624
05:53:23,370 --> 05:53:24,303
to go with some of these things.

9625
05:53:24,303 --> 05:53:25,472
I don't understand the need for

9626
05:53:25,472 --> 05:53:27,390
some of them or whether they are

9627
05:53:27,390 --> 05:53:28,700
appropriate or not, but I had

9628
05:53:28,700 --> 05:53:30,877
like some analysis of it before

9629
05:53:30,877 --> 05:53:33,450
we have the vote. So we do have

9630
05:53:33,450 --> 05:53:37,245
a motion to continue. I do not

9631
05:53:37,717 --> 05:53:40,717
believe that requires a 4/5th

9632
05:53:47,827 --> 05:53:48,528
vote.. Supervisor foley.

9633
05:53:48,528 --> 05:53:50,230
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: look,

9634
05:53:50,230 --> 05:53:52,365
I could have just made these

9635
05:53:52,365 --> 05:53:54,334
additions verbally from the dais

9636
05:53:54,334 --> 05:53:55,668
but I thought it would be easier

9637
05:53:55,668 --> 05:54:00,140
to read it and that's I wrote it

9638
05:54:00,140 --> 05:54:01,641
up. But the reason why I

9639
05:54:01,641 --> 05:54:03,276
brought forward the two items

9640
05:54:03,276 --> 05:54:06,876
that were late to the workforce

9641
05:54:08,614 --> 05:54:10,150
is because this came to my

9642
05:54:10,150 --> 05:54:11,451
attention yesterday that we

9643
05:54:11,451 --> 05:54:13,987
didn't have a plan for the

9644
05:54:13,987 --> 05:54:16,323
workers that are working at the

9645
05:54:16,323 --> 05:54:18,240
marina. And so that caused me

9646
05:54:18,240 --> 05:54:21,240
some quick concern. That's why

9647
05:54:21,600 --> 05:54:22,362
I thought we could put something

9648
05:54:22,362 --> 05:54:23,796
together to make sure that we've

9649
05:54:23,796 --> 05:54:25,398
directed staff to work on that.

9650
05:54:25,398 --> 05:54:27,400
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

9651
05:54:27,400 --> 05:54:31,000
Well, I have that same concern,

9652
05:54:31,338 --> 05:54:33,307
and I asked for the airport

9653
05:54:33,307 --> 05:54:34,207
worker retention policy, which

9654
05:54:34,207 --> 05:54:35,508
we have there. And I think that

9655
05:54:35,508 --> 05:54:37,430
kind of would answer that

9656
05:54:37,430 --> 05:54:40,643
concern. But that needs to be

9657
05:54:47,621 --> 05:54:47,869
studied and considered as well.

9658
05:54:47,869 --> 05:54:49,456
.

9659
05:54:49,456 --> 05:54:50,624
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: the

9660
05:54:50,624 --> 05:54:52,293
first item that I passed out is

9661
05:54:52,293 --> 05:54:52,492
essentially a mirror of what we

9662
05:54:52,492 --> 05:54:53,260
have.

9663
05:54:53,260 --> 05:54:53,861
>>chair, doug chaffee: well, I'm

9664
05:54:53,861 --> 05:54:55,228
going to.

9665
05:54:55,228 --> 05:54:57,630
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: can I

9666
05:54:57,630 --> 05:54:58,331
comment, MR. CHAIRMAN, please?

9667
05:54:58,331 --> 05:54:59,600
Well, I mean, this is an

9668
05:54:59,600 --> 05:55:01,368
important project for the

9669
05:55:01,368 --> 05:55:01,969
county. And we have been.

9670
05:55:01,969 --> 05:55:03,303
>>chair, doug chaffee: another

9671
05:55:03,303 --> 05:55:04,805
reason for continuing it to get

9672
05:55:04,805 --> 05:55:05,906
it done correctly.

9673
05:55:05,906 --> 05:55:06,473
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: so

9674
05:55:06,473 --> 05:55:08,943
I'm going to ask because we

9675
05:55:08,943 --> 05:55:09,943
don't have a date for the

9676
05:55:09,943 --> 05:55:11,411
continuance. I know we talked

9677
05:55:11,411 --> 05:55:13,811
about having potentially a

9678
05:55:17,151 --> 05:55:19,190
meeting in JULY. So is there a

9679
05:55:19,190 --> 05:55:20,721
way, MR. Page, that we could

9680
05:55:20,721 --> 05:55:22,155
continue it and if we do have a

9681
05:55:22,155 --> 05:55:23,991
meeting in JULY, that we

9682
05:55:23,991 --> 05:55:24,958
continue it to JULY?

9683
05:55:24,958 --> 05:55:27,628
>>leon page: well, in terms of

9684
05:55:27,628 --> 05:55:30,831
can the board call for a special

9685
05:55:30,831 --> 05:55:32,165
meeting, yes. The mean, the

9686
05:55:32,165 --> 05:55:33,834
brown act allows the CHAIRMAN To

9687
05:55:33,834 --> 05:55:36,834
call a special meeting anytime

9688
05:55:38,238 --> 05:55:41,238
24 hours notice and the board

9689
05:55:43,710 --> 05:55:43,949
could call a special meeting.

9690
05:55:43,949 --> 05:55:44,511
Of

9691
05:55:44,511 --> 05:55:46,511
>>vincente sarmiento: so

9692
05:55:46,547 --> 05:55:47,681
MR. Page, just to make my motion

9693
05:55:47,681 --> 05:55:49,849
clear, not just a simple

9694
05:55:49,849 --> 05:55:51,885
continuance but a continuance to

9695
05:55:51,885 --> 05:55:53,587
the next meeting or do I have to

9696
05:55:53,587 --> 05:55:55,490
speaks too next special meeting

9697
05:55:55,490 --> 05:55:56,857
or regularly-scheduled meeting?

9698
05:55:56,857 --> 05:55:58,759
>>leon page: well, as of right

9699
05:55:58,759 --> 05:55:59,927
now, there's no special meeting

9700
05:55:59,927 --> 05:56:01,328
on calendar. I suppose you

9701
05:56:01,328 --> 05:56:02,896
could include that with your

9702
05:56:02,896 --> 05:56:05,896
motion. You could identify a

9703
05:56:05,932 --> 05:56:08,869
date, although, I've heard today

9704
05:56:08,869 --> 05:56:09,136
that -- it's complicated

9705
05:56:09,136 --> 05:56:09,803
schedules

9706
05:56:09,803 --> 05:56:10,304
>>vincente sarmiento: I'm trying

9707
05:56:10,304 --> 05:56:11,272
to incorporate what the

9708
05:56:11,272 --> 05:56:13,700
vice-chair is saying. In the

9709
05:56:13,700 --> 05:56:15,242
event that we have a special

9710
05:56:15,242 --> 05:56:16,811
meeting for it to -- for this

9711
05:56:16,811 --> 05:56:20,411
item to be continued to that

9712
05:56:23,170 --> 05:56:23,274
date that's uncertain at this

9713
05:56:23,274 --> 05:56:24,618
point.

9714
05:56:24,618 --> 05:56:26,453
>>leon page: it's really the

9715
05:56:26,453 --> 05:56:28,756
next available meeting, whenever

9716
05:56:28,756 --> 05:56:29,390
that MAY be.

9717
05:56:29,390 --> 05:56:30,624
>>vincente sarmiento: all right.

9718
05:56:30,624 --> 05:56:32,493
I will make sure I clarify my

9719
05:56:32,493 --> 05:56:35,129
motion to say I would like to

9720
05:56:35,129 --> 05:56:38,729
continue this item to the next

9721
05:56:38,966 --> 05:56:39,400
available meeting, board of

9722
05:56:39,400 --> 05:56:40,340
supervisors meeting.

9723
05:56:40,340 --> 05:56:43,340
>>chair, doug chaffee: I will

9724
05:56:47,875 --> 05:56:49,510
accept that clarification.

9725
05:56:49,510 --> 05:56:50,978
MADAM Clerk, will you call the

9726
05:56:50,978 --> 05:56:52,978
roll...

9727
05:56:58,285 --> 05:57:00,285
[Calling roll]

9728
05:57:00,288 --> 05:57:01,889
>>chair, doug chaffee: that

9729
05:57:01,889 --> 05:57:04,889
motion carries. I'm not sure

9730
05:57:06,526 --> 05:57:08,162
about a special meeting. I MAY

9731
05:57:08,162 --> 05:57:09,463
be not around, and I know

9732
05:57:09,463 --> 05:57:11,863
supervisor wagner has some

9733
05:57:11,933 --> 05:57:14,302
concerns with some surgery. So

9734
05:57:14,302 --> 05:57:17,302
with that, we continue this

9735
05:57:20,608 --> 05:57:25,408
item, and so now let's go on to

9736
05:57:32,453 --> 05:57:33,870
supplement

9737
05:57:33,870 --> 05:57:33,688
>>clerk, robin stieler: s94cc.

9738
05:57:33,688 --> 05:57:34,354
Under chair chaffee-orange

9739
05:57:34,354 --> 05:57:35,523
county workforce development

9740
05:57:35,523 --> 05:57:36,157
board-reappoint and confirm

9741
05:57:36,157 --> 05:57:36,824
continued membership of andrew

9742
05:57:36,824 --> 05:57:37,357
fahmy, brea, for term concurrent

9743
05:57:37,357 --> 05:57:39,293
with supervisor's term of

9744
05:57:39,293 --> 05:57:41,293
office

9745
05:57:43,970 --> 05:57:47,297
we have no requests to speak on

9746
05:57:52,306 --> 05:57:54,175
s94cc. This is my item. Okay.

9747
05:57:54,175 --> 05:57:56,175
I'll move it.

9748
05:58:01,516 --> 05:58:02,830
>>vincente sarmiento: second.

9749
05:58:02,830 --> 05:58:05,830
There will be no objection.

9750
05:58:09,156 --> 05:58:11,590
That item is approved. I think

9751
05:58:11,590 --> 05:58:11,725
it's public comments.

9752
05:58:11,725 --> 05:58:14,290
>>clerk, robin stieler: five

9753
05:58:14,290 --> 05:58:15,463
public hearing items. 95 will

9754
05:58:15,463 --> 05:58:16,731
be the first one..

9755
05:58:16,731 --> 05:58:18,733
>>chair, doug chaffee: that goes

9756
05:58:18,733 --> 05:58:19,467
to item 95, please.

9757
05:58:19,467 --> 05:58:20,168
>>clerk, robin stieler: 95.

9758
05:58:20,168 --> 05:58:20,969
Under chair chaffee and

9759
05:58:20,969 --> 05:58:21,669
supervisor sarmiento-public

9760
05:58:21,669 --> 05:58:21,970
hearing to consider first

9761
05:58:21,970 --> 05:58:23,337
reading of "

9762
05:58:23,337 --> 05:58:24,238
an ordinance of the

9763
05:58:24,238 --> 05:58:25,807
county of orange, california,

9764
05:58:25,807 --> 05:58:26,507
amending division 1 of title 1,

9765
05:58:26,507 --> 05:58:27,141
section 1-1-83, of the codified

9766
05:58:27,141 --> 05:58:27,375
ordinances of the county of

9767
05:58:27,375 --> 05:58:27,843
orange"

9768
05:58:27,843 --> 05:58:28,509
regarding full-cost

9769
05:58:28,509 --> 05:58:29,143
recovery for lobbyist

9770
05:58:29,143 --> 05:58:29,911
registration and renewal fees;

9771
05:58:29,911 --> 05:58:30,578
set second reading and adoption

9772
05:58:30,578 --> 05:58:31,279
for 8/11/26, 9:30 A.M.; and

9773
05:58:31,279 --> 05:58:32,380
adopt resolution approving

9774
05:58:32,380 --> 05:58:33,414
revised county lobbyist

9775
05:58:33,414 --> 05:58:35,814
registration filing and renewal

9776
05:58:50,970 --> 05:58:50,333
fees and making related findings

9777
05:58:50,333 --> 05:58:51,732
.

9778
05:58:51,732 --> 05:58:53,835
>>chair, doug chaffee: this is a

9779
05:58:53,835 --> 05:58:55,437
public hearing. We're going to

9780
05:58:55,437 --> 05:58:56,971
open the public hearing. MADAM

9781
05:58:56,971 --> 05:58:58,472
Clerk, do we have any people who

9782
05:58:58,472 --> 05:58:59,473
wish to speak on this item

9783
05:58:59,473 --> 05:59:00,740
>>clerk, robin stieler: no. We

9784
05:59:00,740 --> 05:59:01,542
do not.

9785
05:59:01,542 --> 05:59:02,443
>>chair, doug chaffee: so I'm

9786
05:59:02,443 --> 05:59:03,344
going to close the public

9787
05:59:03,344 --> 05:59:07,115
hearing and bring it back to the

9788
05:59:07,115 --> 05:59:08,650
board for consideration. I'm

9789
05:59:08,650 --> 05:59:10,118
going to move the item

9790
05:59:10,118 --> 05:59:10,785
>>vincente sarmiento: second.

9791
05:59:10,785 --> 05:59:13,185
>>chair, doug chaffee: any

9792
05:59:13,655 --> 05:59:15,891
objection to it? I see none.

9793
05:59:15,891 --> 05:59:19,194
So the item is approved. And

9794
05:59:19,194 --> 05:59:20,895
this is going to come back

9795
05:59:20,895 --> 05:59:22,830
again, consider the matter. So

9796
05:59:22,830 --> 05:59:25,830
the ordinance might actually be

9797
05:59:27,936 --> 05:59:30,380
adopted. Move on to public

9798
05:59:30,380 --> 05:59:30,638
hearing item 96.

9799
05:59:30,638 --> 05:59:31,273
>>clerk, robin stieler: 96.

9800
05:59:31,273 --> 05:59:31,872
Under sheriff-coroner-public

9801
05:59:31,872 --> 05:59:32,473
hearing to consider adopting

9802
05:59:32,473 --> 05:59:33,175
resolution approving orange

9803
05:59:33,175 --> 05:59:34,420
county uniform parking penalty

9804
05:59:34,420 --> 05:59:34,775
schedule of 2026 for

9805
05:59:34,775 --> 05:59:35,477
unincorporated areas and

9806
05:59:35,477 --> 05:59:36,311
county-owned facilities,

9807
05:59:36,311 --> 05:59:38,311
effective 7/1/26; and

9808
05:59:49,191 --> 05:59:49,435
superseding resolution 23-061

9809
05:59:49,435 --> 05:59:51,435
.

9810
05:59:51,526 --> 05:59:53,729
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

9811
05:59:53,729 --> 05:59:55,130
This is another public hearing.

9812
05:59:55,130 --> 05:59:56,765
Going to open the public

9813
05:59:56,765 --> 05:59:57,699
hearing, and MADAM Clerk, do we

9814
05:59:57,699 --> 05:59:59,234
have any speakers

9815
05:59:59,234 --> 05:59:59,468
>>clerk, robin stieler: no, we

9816
05:59:59,468 --> 06:00:00,602
do not.

9817
06:00:00,602 --> 06:00:01,603
>>chair, doug chaffee: we have

9818
06:00:01,603 --> 06:00:02,338
none, so I'm going to close the

9819
06:00:02,338 --> 06:00:05,938
public hearing and bring it back

9820
06:00:08,276 --> 06:00:09,678
to this board for consideration.

9821
06:00:09,678 --> 06:00:13,278
It's been moved. I will second

9822
06:00:13,715 --> 06:00:15,750
the item. Any objection? Item

9823
06:00:15,750 --> 06:00:17,685
is approved. All right, we have

9824
06:00:17,685 --> 06:00:20,685
one more public hearing, which

9825
06:00:20,889 --> 06:00:21,689
is item 97. MADAM Clerk...

9826
06:00:21,689 --> 06:00:22,624
>>clerk, robin stieler: 97.

9827
06:00:22,624 --> 06:00:23,291
Under county counsel-public

9828
06:00:23,291 --> 06:00:24,250
hearing to consider second

9829
06:00:24,250 --> 06:00:24,860
reading and adoption of "an

9830
06:00:24,860 --> 06:00:25,593
uncodified ordinance of the

9831
06:00:25,593 --> 06:00:25,827
county of orange approving the

9832
06:00:25,827 --> 06:00:26,328
sheriff'

9833
06:00:26,328 --> 06:00:26,595
s and district

9834
06:00:26,595 --> 06:00:27,620
attorney'

9835
06:00:27,620 --> 06:00:27,896
s military

9836
06:00:27,896 --> 06:00:29,300
equipment use policies and

9837
06:00:29,300 --> 06:00:31,300
repealing uncodified ordinance

9838
06:00:37,972 --> 06:00:38,206
no. 25-013"

9839
06:00:38,206 --> 06:00:38,740
.

9840
06:00:38,740 --> 06:00:40,309
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going

9841
06:00:40,309 --> 06:00:41,276
to open the public hearing. Are

9842
06:00:41,276 --> 06:00:42,577
there any public comments?

9843
06:00:42,577 --> 06:00:42,778
>>clerk, robin stieler: no, we

9844
06:00:42,778 --> 06:00:44,379
do not

9845
06:00:44,379 --> 06:00:45,147
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going

9846
06:00:45,147 --> 06:00:46,681
to bring it back to the board

9847
06:00:46,681 --> 06:00:48,283
and close the public hearing for

9848
06:00:48,283 --> 06:00:50,683
consideration by the board.

9849
06:00:51,119 --> 06:00:54,119
What's the pleasure of the

9850
06:00:55,657 --> 06:00:57,458
board? Moved is seconded. Any

9851
06:00:57,458 --> 06:00:59,561
objection? All right. Item is

9852
06:00:59,561 --> 06:00:59,895
approved. There's one more

9853
06:00:59,895 --> 06:01:01,229
public hearing

9854
06:01:01,229 --> 06:01:01,405
>>clerk, robin stieler: two

9855
06:01:01,405 --> 06:01:03,405
more

9856
06:01:04,599 --> 06:01:05,401
>>chair, doug chaffee: item 98.

9857
06:01:05,401 --> 06:01:06,670
>>clerk, robin stieler: 98.

9858
06:01:06,670 --> 06:01:06,935
Under oc public works-public

9859
06:01:06,935 --> 06:01:07,836
hearing to consider adopting

9860
06:01:07,836 --> 06:01:08,636
resolution for fy 2025-26 fire

9861
06:01:08,636 --> 06:01:09,438
hazard reduction weed abatement

9862
06:01:09,438 --> 06:01:10,272
cost report by property and

9863
06:01:10,272 --> 06:01:11,573
authorize oc agricultural

9864
06:01:11,573 --> 06:01:13,973
commissioner to reimburse or

9865
06:01:20,315 --> 06:01:20,558
cancel assessments under certain conditions

9866
06:01:20,558 --> 06:01:21,283
.

9867
06:01:21,283 --> 06:01:22,985
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going

9868
06:01:22,985 --> 06:01:24,953
to open the public hearing.

9869
06:01:24,953 --> 06:01:25,821
MADAM Clerk, do we have any

9870
06:01:25,821 --> 06:01:27,355
public speakers?

9871
06:01:27,355 --> 06:01:28,857
>>clerk, robin stieler: no, we

9872
06:01:28,857 --> 06:01:29,858
do not

9873
06:01:29,858 --> 06:01:30,625
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going

9874
06:01:30,625 --> 06:01:32,527
to close the public hearing and

9875
06:01:32,527 --> 06:01:34,362
bring it back to this board for

9876
06:01:34,362 --> 06:01:36,332
consideration. And it's been

9877
06:01:36,332 --> 06:01:38,101
moved and I will second it. Is

9878
06:01:38,101 --> 06:01:39,601
there any objection to it? Item

9879
06:01:39,601 --> 06:01:42,400
closed. And there's one more

9880
06:01:42,400 --> 06:01:45,400
public hearing item. Getting to

9881
06:01:45,700 --> 06:01:45,240
the end of my binder. 99,

9882
06:01:45,240 --> 06:01:45,841
please.

9883
06:01:45,841 --> 06:01:46,475
>>clerk, robin stieler: 99.

9884
06:01:46,475 --> 06:01:47,760
Under oc public works-public

9885
06:01:47,760 --> 06:01:49,780
hearing to adopt resolution

9886
06:01:49,780 --> 06:01:50,346
adopting map checking fee

9887
06:01:50,346 --> 06:01:51,447
schedule for fys 2026-27,

9888
06:01:51,447 --> 06:01:52,281
2027-28 and 2028-29 for map

9889
06:01:52,281 --> 06:01:53,490
checking subsidy reduction

9890
06:01:53,490 --> 06:01:53,716
program; rescind resolution no.

9891
06:01:53,716 --> 06:01:54,550
21-048; and make california

9892
06:01:54,550 --> 06:01:55,217
environmental quality act (Ceqa)

9893
06:01:55,217 --> 06:01:56,118
Exemption findings under ceqa

9894
06:01:56,118 --> 06:01:56,852
guidelines section 15273 and

9895
06:01:56,852 --> 06:01:58,852
public resources code

9896
06:02:15,371 --> 06:02:15,618
21080(B)(8) And other related findings

9897
06:02:15,618 --> 06:02:16,739
.

9898
06:02:16,739 --> 06:02:18,406
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

9899
06:02:18,406 --> 06:02:20,109
you, MADAM Clerk. I'm going to

9900
06:02:20,109 --> 06:02:20,977
open the public hearing. Do we

9901
06:02:20,977 --> 06:02:21,810
have any speakers

9902
06:02:21,810 --> 06:02:22,440
>>clerk, robin stieler: no, we

9903
06:02:22,440 --> 06:02:22,611
do not.

9904
06:02:22,611 --> 06:02:23,912
>>chair, doug chaffee: I'll

9905
06:02:23,912 --> 06:02:24,780
close the public hearing and

9906
06:02:24,780 --> 06:02:26,515
bring it back to the board for

9907
06:02:26,515 --> 06:02:29,515
consideration. MAY I have a

9908
06:02:29,518 --> 06:02:31,420
motion or discussion? I will

9909
06:02:31,420 --> 06:02:34,420
second the item. Any objection?

9910
06:02:37,793 --> 06:02:39,662
The motion is approved. I

9911
06:02:39,662 --> 06:02:41,290
think we're at public comments

9912
06:02:41,290 --> 06:02:43,265
>>leon page: could I make a

9913
06:02:43,265 --> 06:02:45,367
suggestion? The board MAY wish

9914
06:02:45,367 --> 06:02:46,302
to reconsider agenda item 71,

9915
06:02:46,302 --> 06:02:48,702
that's the legislative item.

9916
06:02:49,405 --> 06:02:52,241
There were amendments made today

9917
06:02:52,241 --> 06:02:52,808
to ab2194 and a think a couple

9918
06:02:52,808 --> 06:02:54,577
members are aware of those

9919
06:02:54,577 --> 06:02:56,311
amendments. Again, I raise this

9920
06:02:56,311 --> 06:02:58,513
as an opportunity. If the board

9921
06:02:58,513 --> 06:02:58,847
want to discuss those

9922
06:02:58,847 --> 06:02:59,415
anticipates..

9923
06:02:59,415 --> 06:03:00,615
>>chair, doug chaffee: do we

9924
06:03:00,615 --> 06:03:03,552
have a copy of whatever that

9925
06:03:03,552 --> 06:03:07,152
amendment is? I haven't seen it

9926
06:03:07,723 --> 06:03:08,658
it. Maybe we could come back to

9927
06:03:08,658 --> 06:03:10,692
this after we hear some of the

9928
06:03:10,692 --> 06:03:12,394
public comments when we get

9929
06:03:12,394 --> 06:03:14,529
copies of whatever this is

9930
06:03:14,529 --> 06:03:16,332
>>janet nguyen: on item 99, can

9931
06:03:16,332 --> 06:03:19,332
I record an abstention, please?

9932
06:03:20,736 --> 06:03:21,570
Thank you..

9933
06:03:21,570 --> 06:03:23,970
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

9934
06:03:23,973 --> 06:03:25,875
right. What were you saying?

9935
06:03:25,875 --> 06:03:27,843
>>janet nguyen: for item 99, I

9936
06:03:27,843 --> 06:03:28,144
actually wanted to record an

9937
06:03:28,144 --> 06:03:29,411
abstention.

9938
06:03:29,411 --> 06:03:31,480
>>chair, doug chaffee: you want

9939
06:03:31,480 --> 06:03:31,661
an abstention. Okay. That's

9940
06:03:31,661 --> 06:03:32,348
fine

9941
06:03:32,348 --> 06:03:33,149
>>janet nguyen: thank you.

9942
06:03:33,149 --> 06:03:34,484
>>chair, doug chaffee: please

9943
06:03:34,484 --> 06:03:36,884
note for the recorded

9944
06:03:46,950 --> 06:03:48,495
abstention. All right. We'll

9945
06:04:17,293 --> 06:04:17,860
come back -- all right, let's go

9946
06:04:17,860 --> 06:04:19,628
to public comment

9947
06:04:19,628 --> 06:04:22,280
>>clerk, robin stieler: manual

9948
06:04:22,980 --> 06:04:25,980
penned da, john spring and

9949
06:04:27,336 --> 06:04:28,270
patricia weber..

9950
06:04:28,270 --> 06:04:30,739
>>chair, doug chaffee: sir, you

9951
06:04:30,739 --> 06:04:32,943
have 1 minute. Thank you.

9952
06:04:32,943 --> 06:04:34,977
>>speaker: I came here to talk

9953
06:04:34,977 --> 06:04:36,479
primarily about public safety.

9954
06:04:36,479 --> 06:04:38,414
I have a background in coastal

9955
06:04:38,414 --> 06:04:40,814
zone management, which also

9956
06:04:41,510 --> 06:04:42,151
would be of some interest

9957
06:04:42,151 --> 06:04:44,151
because practically everything

9958
06:04:44,487 --> 06:04:46,656
about the olympics deals with

9959
06:04:46,656 --> 06:04:48,925
our amenities along the coastal

9960
06:04:48,925 --> 06:04:51,827
zone. But I'm also very

9961
06:04:51,827 --> 06:04:54,630
concerned about discord and land

9962
06:04:54,630 --> 06:04:56,600
use at the industrial site of

9963
06:04:56,600 --> 06:04:58,234
aerospace where you have

9964
06:04:58,234 --> 06:05:01,234
residential homes within a few

9965
06:05:01,337 --> 06:05:04,173
hundred feet of the most

9966
06:05:04,173 --> 06:05:06,573
dangerous chemicals when they

9967
06:05:07,310 --> 06:05:10,910
are abused by either heat or

9968
06:05:12,682 --> 06:05:13,717
contamination. Now, obviously

9969
06:05:13,717 --> 06:05:15,952
in a few seconds I cannot convey

9970
06:05:15,952 --> 06:05:18,955
all of my knowledge or expertise

9971
06:05:18,955 --> 06:05:23,155
in any of these areas. So my

9972
06:05:23,994 --> 06:05:26,729
suggestion is, if you are really

9973
06:05:26,729 --> 06:05:29,729
interested in what katrina foley

9974
06:05:31,567 --> 06:05:32,802
was talking about and be donald

9975
06:05:32,802 --> 06:05:34,804
wagner and donald chaffee

9976
06:05:34,804 --> 06:05:37,204
regarding the olympics, please

9977
06:05:40,977 --> 06:05:41,878
contact me.

9978
06:05:41,878 --> 06:05:43,613
>>clerk, robin stieler: next

9979
06:05:43,613 --> 06:05:45,148
three speakers are california

9980
06:05:45,148 --> 06:05:47,148
precinct activators, roseanne

9981
06:05:47,450 --> 06:05:47,684
and lisa h. Please come

9982
06:05:47,684 --> 06:05:48,952
forward

9983
06:05:48,952 --> 06:05:51,352
>>speaker: good afternoon, board

9984
06:05:54,691 --> 06:05:57,910
of supervisors. Earlier I

9985
06:06:04,700 --> 06:06:06,700
handed.

9986
06:06:11,875 --> 06:06:13,209
S. The point of clarity

9987
06:06:13,209 --> 06:06:14,678
notice has already been given to

9988
06:06:14,678 --> 06:06:15,311
the 50 state governors, to the

9989
06:06:15,311 --> 06:06:16,713
PRESIDENT Of the united states,

9990
06:06:16,713 --> 06:06:17,447
to the supreme court and united

9991
06:06:17,447 --> 06:06:20,500
states senate and united states

9992
06:06:20,500 --> 06:06:22,386
congress. We are now giving you

9993
06:06:22,386 --> 06:06:22,919
a copy. Take notice, a frequent

9994
06:06:22,919 --> 06:06:24,220
recurrence of fundamental

9995
06:06:24,220 --> 06:06:24,921
principles of the constitution

9996
06:06:24,921 --> 06:06:26,389
is required to maintain free

9997
06:06:26,389 --> 06:06:27,323
government. The main objective

9998
06:06:27,323 --> 06:06:29,959
of government is to protect and

9999
06:06:29,959 --> 06:06:31,127
preserve the people's rights and

10000
06:06:31,127 --> 06:06:32,596
uphold the law of GOD. The

10001
06:06:32,596 --> 06:06:34,298
people establish the public good

10002
06:06:34,298 --> 06:06:36,433
in the original state and united

10003
06:06:36,433 --> 06:06:38,340
states constitutions are founded

10004
06:06:38,340 --> 06:06:40,340
upon christian principles,

10005
06:06:41,170 --> 06:06:42,539
common law and maxims of law.

10006
06:06:42,539 --> 06:06:44,700
Wherein the constitution should

10007
06:06:44,700 --> 06:06:47,700
the people grant authority for

10008
06:06:47,440 --> 06:06:47,877
islam and shereeial law to

10009
06:06:47,877 --> 06:06:50,790
conquer our form of government

10010
06:06:50,790 --> 06:06:51,114
and society. Islam is sharia

10011
06:06:51,114 --> 06:06:52,983
law and repugnant to the

10012
06:06:52,983 --> 06:06:54,751
founding precepts and principles

10013
06:06:54,751 --> 06:06:56,653
of american society

10014
06:06:56,653 --> 06:06:59,530
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

10015
06:07:14,504 --> 06:07:16,504
you.

10016
06:07:17,541 --> 06:07:20,110
>>speaker: reading a letter from

10017
06:07:20,110 --> 06:07:22,513
robert paul reston governor pro

10018
06:07:22,513 --> 06:07:24,414
tem new california state, dear

10019
06:07:24,414 --> 06:07:25,249
supervisors, registrar and

10020
06:07:25,249 --> 06:07:27,551
sheriff, the purpose this notice

10021
06:07:27,551 --> 06:07:28,586
is to ask for an opportunity to

10022
06:07:28,586 --> 06:07:32,186
address the entire board and/or

10023
06:07:32,422 --> 06:07:34,625
to present a claim consenting

10024
06:07:34,625 --> 06:07:35,992
the certification -- contesting

10025
06:07:35,992 --> 06:07:37,961
the certification of any

10026
06:07:37,961 --> 06:07:39,229
election results at the next

10027
06:07:39,229 --> 06:07:40,798
regularly scheduled meeting at

10028
06:07:40,798 --> 06:07:43,660
board of supervisors. I am

10029
06:07:43,660 --> 06:07:44,670
requesting the board direct the

10030
06:07:44,670 --> 06:07:46,170
registrar of voters to respond

10031
06:07:46,170 --> 06:07:47,104
to the request for information

10032
06:07:47,104 --> 06:07:50,104
below pippin vote your attention

10033
06:07:51,741 --> 06:07:53,844
to election code section 16100d,

10034
06:07:53,844 --> 06:07:55,846
a lector of a county, stick or

10035
06:07:55,846 --> 06:07:58,415
of any political subdivision of

10036
06:07:58,415 --> 06:07:59,316
either MAY contest any election

10037
06:07:59,316 --> 06:08:01,485
held therein to any of the

10038
06:08:01,485 --> 06:08:03,820
following causes, d, that

10039
06:08:03,820 --> 06:08:05,423
illegal votes were cast. The

10040
06:08:05,423 --> 06:08:06,957
factual basis of my request is

10041
06:08:06,957 --> 06:08:08,359
that it is common knowledge that

10042
06:08:08,359 --> 06:08:10,494
there has been a flood of

10043
06:08:10,494 --> 06:08:11,996
illegal aliens into the state of

10044
06:08:11,996 --> 06:08:12,429
california's counties, cities,

10045
06:08:12,429 --> 06:08:13,960
and school districts

10046
06:08:13,960 --> 06:08:14,665
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

10047
06:08:14,665 --> 06:08:18,265
you, ma'am. Your time is up.

10048
06:08:19,169 --> 06:08:20,504
Thank you.

10049
06:08:20,504 --> 06:08:22,504
>>speaker: those non-citizens

10050
06:08:23,600 --> 06:08:24,408
have apparently been allowed to

10051
06:08:24,408 --> 06:08:25,242
register with the department of

10052
06:08:25,242 --> 06:08:26,543
motor vehicles. With that

10053
06:08:26,543 --> 06:08:28,245
registration, these non-citizens

10054
06:08:28,245 --> 06:08:29,112
have been provided with voter

10055
06:08:29,112 --> 06:08:31,112
registration and election

10056
06:08:31,549 --> 06:08:32,916
ballots. It is also common

10057
06:08:32,916 --> 06:08:33,817
knowledge that investigative

10058
06:08:33,817 --> 06:08:36,217
reporters have discovered that

10059
06:08:37,621 --> 06:08:39,189
some of the illegal aliens

10060
06:08:39,189 --> 06:08:40,791
non-citizens have in fact voted

10061
06:08:40,791 --> 06:08:42,259
providing these non-citizen

10062
06:08:42,259 --> 06:08:44,228
voter registration and election

10063
06:08:44,228 --> 06:08:44,862
ballots gives you the members of

10064
06:08:44,862 --> 06:08:46,300
the board of supervisors and you

10065
06:08:46,300 --> 06:08:47,631
the registrar of voters the

10066
06:08:47,631 --> 06:08:49,801
legal basis to set aside the

10067
06:08:49,801 --> 06:08:50,601
election and deny the

10068
06:08:50,601 --> 06:08:53,537
certification due to the number

10069
06:08:53,537 --> 06:08:57,137
of illegal voters as set forth

10070
06:08:57,241 --> 06:08:59,641
in california election code

10071
06:09:02,713 --> 06:09:04,713
16100 specifically section d.

10072
06:09:05,750 --> 06:09:08,520
There's inchon -- these inchon

10073
06:09:08,520 --> 06:09:09,120
truthable facts give you not

10074
06:09:09,120 --> 06:09:10,587
only the right but the

10075
06:09:10,587 --> 06:09:12,890
obligation to investigate voter

10076
06:09:12,890 --> 06:09:15,590
fraud. If the board of

10077
06:09:15,590 --> 06:09:15,659
registrar certifies the

10078
06:09:15,659 --> 06:09:17,561
election, they will be

10079
06:09:17,561 --> 06:09:19,597
committing a felony. To the

10080
06:09:19,597 --> 06:09:21,299
board and the registrar, would

10081
06:09:21,299 --> 06:09:22,599
you please provide me with the

10082
06:09:22,599 --> 06:09:22,833
person who served you the

10083
06:09:22,833 --> 06:09:23,634
letter.

10084
06:09:23,634 --> 06:09:24,568
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

10085
06:09:24,568 --> 06:09:26,568
you, ma'am

10086
06:09:29,473 --> 06:09:30,408
>>speaker: thank you.

10087
06:09:30,408 --> 06:09:32,509
>>clerk, robin stieler: last

10088
06:09:32,509 --> 06:09:34,509
speaker is alajandra.

10089
06:09:35,646 --> 06:09:37,248
>>speaker: supervisors, I

10090
06:09:37,248 --> 06:09:40,848
respectfully urge to you vote no

10091
06:09:44,321 --> 06:09:45,756
on item s94t and stop funding

10092
06:09:45,756 --> 06:09:47,758
$250k to plan the parenthood,

10093
06:09:47,758 --> 06:09:49,561
the nation's largest abortion

10094
06:09:49,561 --> 06:09:50,494
provider. Former planned

10095
06:09:50,494 --> 06:09:51,562
patienthood director abby

10096
06:09:51,562 --> 06:09:53,962
johnson has publically testified

10097
06:09:54,131 --> 06:09:55,320
that funds directed to planned

10098
06:09:55,320 --> 06:09:57,432
parenthood help support its

10099
06:09:57,969 --> 06:09:59,969
abortion practices. Abortion

10100
06:10:01,105 --> 06:10:02,500
intentionally ends the life of a

10101
06:10:02,500 --> 06:10:04,500
developing human beings.

10102
06:10:04,942 --> 06:10:06,942
Approximately 17,000 unborn

10103
06:10:07,111 --> 06:10:07,478
babies here in orange county are

10104
06:10:07,478 --> 06:10:09,478
killed annually

10105
06:10:09,547 --> 06:10:12,717
. Teen pregnancy is the no the

10106
06:10:12,717 --> 06:10:14,952
only risk at hand. Nearly half

10107
06:10:14,952 --> 06:10:16,454
of newly sexually transmitted

10108
06:10:16,454 --> 06:10:18,854
infections occur among young

10109
06:10:19,591 --> 06:10:21,991
people ages 15 to 24. Taxpayer

10110
06:10:23,928 --> 06:10:24,528
dollars should also support

10111
06:10:24,528 --> 06:10:26,528
abstinence-centered education

10112
06:10:26,564 --> 06:10:28,800
programs that encourage teens to

10113
06:10:28,800 --> 06:10:30,501
delay sexual activity, build

10114
06:10:30,501 --> 06:10:32,901
self respect, and strengthen

10115
06:10:33,438 --> 06:10:35,540
family. Do not promote sexual

10116
06:10:35,540 --> 06:10:36,474
activity by providing that

10117
06:10:36,474 --> 06:10:37,750
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

10118
06:10:37,750 --> 06:10:37,776
you, ma'am

10119
06:10:37,776 --> 06:10:39,510
>>speaker: thank you.

10120
06:10:39,510 --> 06:10:40,479
>>clerk, robin stieler: no

10121
06:10:40,479 --> 06:10:41,460
further speakers.

10122
06:10:41,460 --> 06:10:43,446
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

10123
06:10:44,849 --> 06:10:48,387
right. And with that we do have

10124
06:10:48,387 --> 06:10:50,880
a copy now, it's a lot to read.

10125
06:10:50,880 --> 06:10:51,122
But let me finish with our other

10126
06:10:51,122 --> 06:10:52,690
board commitments for the day,

10127
06:10:52,690 --> 06:10:54,626
and then we can come back at

10128
06:10:54,626 --> 06:10:58,496
very end and talk about this if

10129
06:10:58,496 --> 06:11:00,970
we need to. I'd particularly

10130
06:11:00,970 --> 06:11:02,433
like to know if there's any

10131
06:11:02,433 --> 06:11:04,433
comments from supervisor

10132
06:11:06,871 --> 06:11:08,406
sarmiento and nguyen now that

10133
06:11:08,406 --> 06:11:10,875
we've had a chance to study it.

10134
06:11:10,875 --> 06:11:12,310
Now we come to board comments,

10135
06:11:12,310 --> 06:11:13,745
if there are any. Do we have

10136
06:11:13,745 --> 06:11:14,746
any board members that would

10137
06:11:14,746 --> 06:11:18,346
like to comment on anything at

10138
06:11:21,753 --> 06:11:23,753
this point? Anyone?

10139
06:11:23,888 --> 06:11:24,823
>>don wagner: a couple

10140
06:11:24,823 --> 06:11:26,791
adjournment memories

10141
06:11:26,791 --> 06:11:29,427
>>vincente sarmiento: I have an

10142
06:11:29,427 --> 06:11:31,827
adjournment now as well.

10143
06:11:33,264 --> 06:11:33,865
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

10144
06:11:33,865 --> 06:11:36,267
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

10145
06:11:36,267 --> 06:11:37,836
think we should do this item

10146
06:11:37,836 --> 06:11:38,470
before we dot adjournments.

10147
06:11:38,470 --> 06:11:39,971
>>chair, doug chaffee: well, we

10148
06:11:39,971 --> 06:11:42,340
can do that. That's fine. But

10149
06:11:42,340 --> 06:11:44,475
let me make sure there are no

10150
06:11:44,475 --> 06:11:46,277
board comments first.. I

10151
06:11:46,277 --> 06:11:48,413
didn't see any lights on. I'll

10152
06:11:48,413 --> 06:11:52,130
pass on mine. I will not

10153
06:11:52,350 --> 06:11:55,350
disrupt the flow. All right.

10154
06:11:56,888 --> 06:11:57,880
MADAM Ceo, your very last

10155
06:11:57,880 --> 06:11:58,290
chance

10156
06:11:58,290 --> 06:11:59,725
>>clerk, robin stieler: I

10157
06:11:59,725 --> 06:11:59,957
believe supervisor nguyen has

10158
06:11:59,957 --> 06:12:00,625
comments

10159
06:12:00,625 --> 06:12:01,659
>>chair, doug chaffee: I don't

10160
06:12:01,659 --> 06:12:03,280
have a light on here

10161
06:12:03,280 --> 06:12:05,863
>>janet nguyen: I'm sorry. Can

10162
06:12:05,863 --> 06:12:06,130
I MAY being some board

10163
06:12:06,130 --> 06:12:06,664
comments.

10164
06:12:06,664 --> 06:12:08,499
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

10165
06:12:08,499 --> 06:12:08,700
right. Then maybe I'll join

10166
06:12:08,700 --> 06:12:09,901
later

10167
06:12:09,901 --> 06:12:10,869
>>janet nguyen: I can do later,

10168
06:12:10,869 --> 06:12:12,872
whatever you want me to.

10169
06:12:12,872 --> 06:12:15,872
>>chair, doug chaffee: well, I

10170
06:12:16,875 --> 06:12:19,778
thought we do do any -- we would

10171
06:12:19,778 --> 06:12:22,314
do any comments now and then we

10172
06:12:22,314 --> 06:12:23,649
will come if we can to the re

10173
06:12:23,649 --> 06:12:24,850
revised bill, talk about that,

10174
06:12:24,850 --> 06:12:27,486
if you guys have had a chance to

10175
06:12:27,486 --> 06:12:28,387
look at it, and then we'll go to

10176
06:12:28,387 --> 06:12:29,988
the adjournments if we want to,

10177
06:12:29,988 --> 06:12:32,124
if that's all right. So if you

10178
06:12:32,124 --> 06:12:32,925
have comments you'd like to

10179
06:12:32,925 --> 06:12:34,259
make, go ahead

10180
06:12:34,259 --> 06:12:35,260
>>janet nguyen: I do,

10181
06:12:35,260 --> 06:12:38,860
MR. CHAIRMAN, thank you. Just a

10182
06:12:38,897 --> 06:12:40,632
fews things. One, you know, I

10183
06:12:40,632 --> 06:12:42,234
just want to -- I know it's hard

10184
06:12:42,234 --> 06:12:45,870
to believe but it's been a month

10185
06:12:45,870 --> 06:12:46,906
since the incident of the -- the

10186
06:12:46,906 --> 06:12:48,274
incident in garden grove and

10187
06:12:48,274 --> 06:12:49,741
everything has remained

10188
06:12:49,741 --> 06:12:52,845
stabilized at the plant, and we

10189
06:12:52,845 --> 06:12:54,380
are waiting for gkn to obtain

10190
06:12:54,380 --> 06:12:55,313
the equipment to remove mma for

10191
06:12:55,313 --> 06:12:57,383
the two tanks not at risk of

10192
06:12:57,383 --> 06:12:59,170
leaking. So far no removal date

10193
06:12:59,170 --> 06:13:01,386
has been identified. I want

10194
06:13:01,386 --> 06:13:04,589
just to thank MADAM Ceo and hca

10195
06:13:04,589 --> 06:13:06,989
for continuously, you know,

10196
06:13:07,425 --> 06:13:08,460
gives the update on this issue

10197
06:13:08,460 --> 06:13:10,562
and continue to work with the

10198
06:13:10,562 --> 06:13:12,764
city of garden grove and be

10199
06:13:12,764 --> 06:13:13,832
present there at their council

10200
06:13:13,832 --> 06:13:17,432
meetings when asked to give the

10201
06:13:19,838 --> 06:13:24,380
update. I also -- last time I

10202
06:13:24,243 --> 06:13:26,545
did not thank enough folks. So

10203
06:13:26,545 --> 06:13:28,130
we got a full list. I hope I

10204
06:13:28,130 --> 06:13:30,549
didn't MISS Anybody. But I want

10205
06:13:30,549 --> 06:13:33,384
to, again, you know, be sure to

10206
06:13:33,384 --> 06:13:35,821
thank the los alamitos racetrack

10207
06:13:35,821 --> 06:13:36,589
for allowing us to use their

10208
06:13:36,589 --> 06:13:38,857
parking lot for the commanding

10209
06:13:38,857 --> 06:13:40,425
center. Ocfa, city of garden

10210
06:13:40,425 --> 06:13:42,594
grove, the police department,

10211
06:13:42,594 --> 06:13:44,496
health care agency, sheriff,

10212
06:13:44,496 --> 06:13:46,464
ocea, aqmd, you know, california

10213
06:13:46,464 --> 06:13:48,234
office emergency services, all

10214
06:13:48,234 --> 06:13:50,503
the county staff, the management

10215
06:13:50,503 --> 06:13:51,169
staff, everybody, uc irvine

10216
06:13:51,169 --> 06:13:53,569
health, there's also some

10217
06:13:54,206 --> 06:13:55,173
businesses that came out and

10218
06:13:55,173 --> 06:13:56,776
assisted as well. I wanted to

10219
06:13:56,776 --> 06:13:59,645
just identify them as well, and

10220
06:13:59,645 --> 06:14:01,213
this is just one of the shorter

10221
06:14:01,213 --> 06:14:03,282
lists. This is not completely

10222
06:14:03,282 --> 06:14:04,383
full. We're still getting more

10223
06:14:04,383 --> 06:14:07,320
folks letting us know who else

10224
06:14:07,320 --> 06:14:10,356
was there to assist. Foot long

10225
06:14:10,356 --> 06:14:13,356
coffee and tea, bow and

10226
06:14:13,592 --> 06:14:15,992
baguette, blue restaurant lanon

10227
06:14:19,332 --> 06:14:22,332
kitchen. Smile again, twin fat

10228
06:14:24,704 --> 06:14:25,805
supermarket. Faux v1. We

10229
06:14:25,805 --> 06:14:27,373
appreciate everyone coming out

10230
06:14:27,373 --> 06:14:29,542
and bringing food and place to

10231
06:14:29,542 --> 06:14:30,943
to our command center. We

10232
06:14:30,943 --> 06:14:32,678
appreciate you doing it without

10233
06:14:32,678 --> 06:14:35,810
us even asking. And then the

10234
06:14:35,810 --> 06:14:36,415
next one, since we won't be here

10235
06:14:36,415 --> 06:14:38,750
until AUGUST, JULY 4th is

10236
06:14:38,750 --> 06:14:41,530
always an exciting time

10237
06:14:41,530 --> 06:14:42,687
in huntington beach and we have

10238
06:14:42,687 --> 06:14:43,956
the largest parade west of the

10239
06:14:43,956 --> 06:14:45,590
mississippi. Obviously as

10240
06:14:45,590 --> 06:14:48,940
mentioned, this year will be the

10241
06:14:48,940 --> 06:14:50,162
biggest ever with a three-day

10242
06:14:50,162 --> 06:14:52,300
celebration in addition to

10243
06:14:52,300 --> 06:14:54,300
america's semiquincentennial.

10244
06:14:57,936 --> 06:15:00,336
it's also huntington's beach

10245
06:15:00,873 --> 06:15:02,474
102 -- 122th fourth of JULY

10246
06:15:02,474 --> 06:15:04,109
parade. The fun starts on

10247
06:15:04,109 --> 06:15:05,411
JULY 3rd at noon with live

10248
06:15:05,411 --> 06:15:07,279
music at the pier lasting into

10249
06:15:07,279 --> 06:15:08,514
the night. On the 4th after

10250
06:15:08,514 --> 06:15:10,215
the parade, live music will

10251
06:15:10,215 --> 06:15:11,650
start and last until 8:00 P.M.

10252
06:15:11,650 --> 06:15:13,385
With the city's biggest block

10253
06:15:13,385 --> 06:15:16,221
party ever on main street.

10254
06:15:16,221 --> 06:15:17,230
Homeowners can enter a house

10255
06:15:17,230 --> 06:15:18,624
decorating contests. There will

10256
06:15:18,624 --> 06:15:20,158
also be a 5k run in the

10257
06:15:20,158 --> 06:15:22,558
morning and fireworks starting

10258
06:15:23,229 --> 06:15:24,597
at 9:00 P.M.. More music --

10259
06:15:24,597 --> 06:15:26,431
more live music is scheduled on

10260
06:15:26,431 --> 06:15:28,433
the 5th. Be warned that it

10261
06:15:28,433 --> 06:15:30,969
will be a very busy, busy

10262
06:15:30,969 --> 06:15:33,673
downtown. So parking is going

10263
06:15:33,673 --> 06:15:35,508
to be extremely difficult. So I

10264
06:15:35,508 --> 06:15:37,908
would encourage people to

10265
06:15:39,145 --> 06:15:41,681
ride-share or to please plan

10266
06:15:41,681 --> 06:15:43,917
accordingly. Also I wanted to

10267
06:15:43,917 --> 06:15:45,618
draw attention to a worthwhile

10268
06:15:45,618 --> 06:15:48,180
program that I've supported,

10269
06:15:48,488 --> 06:15:49,856
meta makes ray ban smart glasses

10270
06:15:49,856 --> 06:15:51,590
for veterans who are visually

10271
06:15:51,590 --> 06:15:53,693
impaired or blind and gives them

10272
06:15:53,693 --> 06:15:55,428
away for free. It was recently

10273
06:15:55,428 --> 06:15:57,764
announced last week the glasses

10274
06:15:57,764 --> 06:16:01,364
use ai to speak to the

10275
06:16:01,367 --> 06:16:04,367
individual who's wearing it and

10276
06:16:05,470 --> 06:16:07,841
then can describe what is in

10277
06:16:07,841 --> 06:16:10,430
their line of site. I've asked

10278
06:16:10,430 --> 06:16:12,145
the county veterans service

10279
06:16:12,145 --> 06:16:13,580
offices to please assist our

10280
06:16:13,580 --> 06:16:15,980
local blind veterans in

10281
06:16:17,500 --> 06:16:18,550
obtaining these glasses, any

10282
06:16:18,550 --> 06:16:20,550
visually-impaired veteran is

10283
06:16:20,587 --> 06:16:22,870
eligible. The blind veterans

10284
06:16:22,870 --> 06:16:23,857
association is a distributor and

10285
06:16:23,857 --> 06:16:26,927
will train veterans on how to

10286
06:16:26,927 --> 06:16:28,460
use these glasses. They have a

10287
06:16:28,460 --> 06:16:30,162
rehab center at our closest V.A.

10288
06:16:30,162 --> 06:16:31,598
Hospital, which is in the city

10289
06:16:31,598 --> 06:16:33,499
of long beach, and the

10290
06:16:33,499 --> 06:16:35,340
association also comes to our

10291
06:16:35,340 --> 06:16:36,836
county's veterans office once a

10292
06:16:36,836 --> 06:16:38,705
month. So to get these class

10293
06:16:38,705 --> 06:16:40,774
glasses, the veterans should

10294
06:16:40,774 --> 06:16:43,774
register for free at the

10295
06:16:43,909 --> 06:16:46,909
association's website at bva.Org

10296
06:16:49,648 --> 06:16:52,648
or please call them at

10297
06:16:57,570 --> 06:16:58,324
562-826-8015. The glasses will

10298
06:16:58,324 --> 06:17:00,459
be shipped to the veteran and

10299
06:17:00,459 --> 06:17:03,497
they can get zoom training or go

10300
06:17:03,497 --> 06:17:04,290
to the office to get training in

10301
06:17:04,290 --> 06:17:06,733
person. This is a great

10302
06:17:06,733 --> 06:17:08,868
opportunity, and we take our

10303
06:17:08,868 --> 06:17:09,869
eyesight for granted. And I

10304
06:17:09,869 --> 06:17:11,537
can't imagine not being able to

10305
06:17:11,537 --> 06:17:12,939
see. So I want to do all I can

10306
06:17:12,939 --> 06:17:15,908
to get the word out about this

10307
06:17:15,908 --> 06:17:17,908
free life-changing invention.

10308
06:17:18,577 --> 06:17:22,177
And so with that, MR. CHAIRMAN,

10309
06:17:29,856 --> 06:17:30,490
thank you.

10310
06:17:30,490 --> 06:17:31,991
>>vincente sarmiento: I just

10311
06:17:31,991 --> 06:17:33,727
want to let everybody know as we

10312
06:17:33,727 --> 06:17:35,229
come to the end of JUNE, I want

10313
06:17:35,229 --> 06:17:37,430
to say a few words about lgbtq

10314
06:17:37,430 --> 06:17:40,430
pride month. Each JUNE we

10315
06:17:40,467 --> 06:17:41,680
celebrate pride month and honor

10316
06:17:41,680 --> 06:17:42,200
contributions of the community

10317
06:17:42,200 --> 06:17:44,500
and the ongoing fight for

10318
06:17:44,500 --> 06:17:46,405
equality. Pride traces its

10319
06:17:46,643 --> 06:17:49,576
roots to the stonewall uprising

10320
06:17:49,576 --> 06:17:51,110
in JUNE, 1969 when legion people

10321
06:17:51,110 --> 06:17:52,613
in new york city stood up

10322
06:17:52,613 --> 06:17:54,347
against harassment and descrim

10323
06:17:54,347 --> 06:17:56,549
nation in a defining moment for

10324
06:17:56,549 --> 06:17:57,517
the movement. Their courage

10325
06:17:57,517 --> 06:17:58,252
galvanized generations of

10326
06:17:58,252 --> 06:18:00,187
advocacy and progress that

10327
06:18:00,187 --> 06:18:01,288
continue today. Even as we

10328
06:18:01,288 --> 06:18:03,323
celebrate, we cannot forget that

10329
06:18:03,323 --> 06:18:05,659
pride began as a protest. It

10330
06:18:05,659 --> 06:18:07,261
was an act of resistance against

10331
06:18:07,261 --> 06:18:08,862
violence and justice and

10332
06:18:08,862 --> 06:18:10,264
systematic oppression. It is

10333
06:18:10,264 --> 06:18:11,898
especially important for us to

10334
06:18:11,898 --> 06:18:13,934
remember the origins of pride

10335
06:18:13,934 --> 06:18:15,234
this year in the face of renewed

10336
06:18:15,234 --> 06:18:17,270
challenges and in a national

10337
06:18:17,270 --> 06:18:19,670
political climate where some

10338
06:18:19,673 --> 06:18:20,174
seek to roll back the progress

10339
06:18:20,174 --> 06:18:21,975
that's been made and the

10340
06:18:21,975 --> 06:18:23,943
community continues to persevere

10341
06:18:23,943 --> 06:18:25,545
and lead with strength,

10342
06:18:25,545 --> 06:18:26,713
resilience and love but also

10343
06:18:26,713 --> 06:18:28,816
with fear because of all of the

10344
06:18:28,816 --> 06:18:31,951
pressure. As the father of a

10345
06:18:31,951 --> 06:18:33,519
gay son, I always worry when my

10346
06:18:33,519 --> 06:18:36,256
son is away from me because I

10347
06:18:36,256 --> 06:18:38,592
know there are still people that

10348
06:18:38,592 --> 06:18:40,794
misunderstand, judge, and become

10349
06:18:40,794 --> 06:18:41,829
hostile to folks that are -- you

10350
06:18:41,829 --> 06:18:43,596
know, that love differently. I

10351
06:18:43,596 --> 06:18:44,931
just want to thank all of those

10352
06:18:44,931 --> 06:18:46,266
who advocate for justice,

10353
06:18:46,266 --> 06:18:48,701
inclusion, and dignity for all.

10354
06:18:48,701 --> 06:18:50,603
Your voices matter. And --

10355
06:18:50,603 --> 06:18:51,838
then, and as ever, we continue

10356
06:18:51,838 --> 06:18:54,140
the fight for inclusion, support

10357
06:18:54,140 --> 06:18:55,641
the rights of all people to live

10358
06:18:55,641 --> 06:18:57,678
openly, be respected for who

10359
06:18:57,678 --> 06:18:58,312
they are and thrive in our

10360
06:18:58,312 --> 06:18:58,481
county. Thank you, MR. Chair.

10361
06:18:58,481 --> 06:18:59,413
.

10362
06:18:59,413 --> 06:19:01,813
>>chair, doug chaffee: well,

10363
06:19:03,317 --> 06:19:05,451
thank you. If I MAY make a few

10364
06:19:05,451 --> 06:19:07,787
remarks. Our last and eighth

10365
06:19:07,787 --> 06:19:10,787
kindness award ceremony will be

10366
06:19:13,761 --> 06:19:14,761
held on NOVEMBER 13.

10367
06:19:14,761 --> 06:19:15,629
NOVEMBER 13 is observed

10368
06:19:15,629 --> 06:19:17,298
internationally as world

10369
06:19:17,298 --> 06:19:18,598
kindness day. That's why we

10370
06:19:18,598 --> 06:19:20,134
hold our kindness awards on that

10371
06:19:20,134 --> 06:19:22,303
date. We're looking to select

10372
06:19:22,303 --> 06:19:25,903
people from my district, any one

10373
06:19:26,374 --> 06:19:29,210
of the seven cities, that would

10374
06:19:29,210 --> 06:19:31,711
like to represent their city.

10375
06:19:31,711 --> 06:19:33,313
We can hold them out as examples

10376
06:19:33,313 --> 06:19:35,449
of kindness and community

10377
06:19:35,449 --> 06:19:37,951
service for others to emulate.

10378
06:19:37,951 --> 06:19:39,987
So nominations will be accepted

10379
06:19:39,987 --> 06:19:42,387
until SEPTEMBER 18. And then

10380
06:19:45,459 --> 06:19:46,429
we'll close them off. The

10381
06:19:46,429 --> 06:19:48,295
future leaders program is

10382
06:19:48,295 --> 06:19:50,630
continuing. They finished their

10383
06:19:50,630 --> 06:19:53,300
third session last saturday.

10384
06:19:53,968 --> 06:19:55,570
They had a tour of the sheriffs

10385
06:19:55,570 --> 06:19:57,400
coroner division. The sheriffs

10386
06:19:57,400 --> 06:19:58,605
coroner division is especially

10387
06:19:58,605 --> 06:20:01,605
interesting. It's kind of the

10388
06:20:03,244 --> 06:20:04,712
best in the state, the county

10389
06:20:04,712 --> 06:20:05,979
center staff for training here

10390
06:20:05,979 --> 06:20:07,213
in orange county. And it's

10391
06:20:07,213 --> 06:20:08,482
followed by a meant health

10392
06:20:08,482 --> 06:20:09,116
awareness presentation by our

10393
06:20:09,116 --> 06:20:10,618
health care agency. We're

10394
06:20:10,618 --> 06:20:12,853
coming up this saturday, we're

10395
06:20:12,853 --> 06:20:14,655
going to do a mock board of

10396
06:20:14,655 --> 06:20:16,256
supervisors meeting where each

10397
06:20:16,256 --> 06:20:19,930
of the students are supposed to

10398
06:20:19,930 --> 06:20:20,728
try to advocate something, then

10399
06:20:20,728 --> 06:20:21,661
write a staff report, and then

10400
06:20:21,661 --> 06:20:23,764
they try to convince others to

10401
06:20:23,764 --> 06:20:24,665
approve it. That will be

10402
06:20:24,665 --> 06:20:26,767
followed by a graduation

10403
06:20:26,767 --> 06:20:29,767
ceremony. And I'm pleased that

10404
06:20:30,103 --> 06:20:32,940
we're able to visit -- previsit

10405
06:20:32,940 --> 06:20:33,840
the cal state fullerton's

10406
06:20:33,840 --> 06:20:34,541
project rebound women's housing

10407
06:20:34,541 --> 06:20:37,541
facility where we're able to

10408
06:20:38,512 --> 06:20:39,313
help with the funding. And then

10409
06:20:39,313 --> 06:20:40,714
I'd like to congratulate the

10410
06:20:40,714 --> 06:20:41,581
orange county commission and

10411
06:20:41,581 --> 06:20:43,651
status of women and girls for

10412
06:20:43,651 --> 06:20:46,887
being selected as a finalist for

10413
06:20:46,887 --> 06:20:48,122
this year's golden hub awards,

10414
06:20:48,122 --> 06:20:49,122
collaborative community

10415
06:20:49,122 --> 06:20:50,490
development innovation category

10416
06:20:50,490 --> 06:20:52,359
for their inaugural report. And

10417
06:20:52,359 --> 06:20:54,427
there will be a ceremony at

10418
06:20:54,427 --> 06:20:56,696
nixon center later this -- I

10419
06:20:56,696 --> 06:20:59,267
think it's thursday night. And

10420
06:20:59,267 --> 06:21:02,470
now, the last chance, ceo, is

10421
06:21:02,470 --> 06:21:03,871
there any comment you'd like to

10422
06:21:03,871 --> 06:21:05,273
make?

10423
06:21:05,273 --> 06:21:07,273
>>michelle aguirre: yeah,

10424
06:21:07,609 --> 06:21:10,611
thanks, chair. So just oh oil

10425
06:21:10,611 --> 06:21:11,512
be fast in the interest of time.

10426
06:21:11,512 --> 06:21:15,112
Just wanted to thank the board

10427
06:21:15,784 --> 06:21:18,452
for your kind words. Earlier

10428
06:21:18,452 --> 06:21:19,920
today, to your chiefs for all of

10429
06:21:19,920 --> 06:21:21,555
their support. I've loved

10430
06:21:21,555 --> 06:21:23,658
working with all of you,

10431
06:21:23,658 --> 06:21:26,940
whenever you are. To the county

10432
06:21:26,940 --> 06:21:29,940
family for your support. For,

10433
06:21:32,330 --> 06:21:33,000
you know, just a thank you to my

10434
06:21:33,000 --> 06:21:34,535
chiefs in the CEOs office.

10435
06:21:34,535 --> 06:21:38,105
You know who you are. My

10436
06:21:38,105 --> 06:21:40,508
partners in crime, kim and liz,

10437
06:21:40,508 --> 06:21:43,508
the newest members of the

10438
06:21:43,778 --> 06:21:45,880
partners in crime, oana, carolyn

10439
06:21:45,880 --> 06:21:48,315
and chris lynn. Thank you for

10440
06:21:48,315 --> 06:21:50,715
everything. Our community be

10441
06:21:51,252 --> 06:21:53,252
partners have appreciated

10442
06:21:58,292 --> 06:22:00,228
working with you. And elle, I

10443
06:22:00,228 --> 06:22:03,430
could not have done this without

10444
06:22:03,430 --> 06:22:04,865
you. Thank you so much. Leon,

10445
06:22:04,865 --> 06:22:08,465
robin, are you part of the

10446
06:22:10,538 --> 06:22:12,500
chiefs' team, right. Our

10447
06:22:12,500 --> 06:22:13,675
biweekly staff meetings, we've

10448
06:22:13,675 --> 06:22:16,578
had a great time. Dom and mel,

10449
06:22:16,578 --> 06:22:20,214
you know who you are, thank you.

10450
06:22:20,214 --> 06:22:22,716
Call me. And I would say

10451
06:22:22,716 --> 06:22:25,887
casey, good luck. You've got my

10452
06:22:25,887 --> 06:22:28,887
number. Just don't call before

10453
06:22:38,967 --> 06:22:40,967
7:00. Thank you, chair..

10454
06:22:41,335 --> 06:22:42,737
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

10455
06:22:42,737 --> 06:22:44,737
you, michelle. Appreciate

10456
06:22:45,673 --> 06:22:47,308
everything you've done. We all

10457
06:22:47,308 --> 06:22:48,910
do, as we expressed earlier.

10458
06:22:48,910 --> 06:22:51,846
And so hopefully you'll enjoy

10459
06:22:51,846 --> 06:22:54,846
saturday, your first day off.

10460
06:22:55,383 --> 06:22:58,983
Okay. Now, let's come back to

10461
06:23:00,522 --> 06:23:02,724
this revised bill. I've

10462
06:23:02,724 --> 06:23:04,292
currently read through it. I'm

10463
06:23:04,292 --> 06:23:06,495
mainly curious about supervisor

10464
06:23:06,495 --> 06:23:07,429
sarmiento and supervisor

10465
06:23:07,429 --> 06:23:08,630
nguyen's review. Go ahead,

10466
06:23:08,630 --> 06:23:08,796
supervisor sarmiento

10467
06:23:08,796 --> 06:23:11,310
>>vincente sarmiento: thank you,

10468
06:23:11,310 --> 06:23:13,368
MR. Chair. I'll be brief. I

10469
06:23:13,368 --> 06:23:16,505
was out of the room when I

10470
06:23:16,505 --> 06:23:18,707
believe MR. Page provided the

10471
06:23:18,707 --> 06:23:19,507
suggestion that we MAY want to

10472
06:23:19,507 --> 06:23:21,275
take a different position than

10473
06:23:21,275 --> 06:23:23,277
what was voted on earlier given

10474
06:23:23,277 --> 06:23:25,881
the revisions to the bill.

10475
06:23:25,881 --> 06:23:26,882
There's some pretty substantive

10476
06:23:26,882 --> 06:23:27,916
and material changes to this

10477
06:23:27,916 --> 06:23:30,916
bill, although, I'm not opposed

10478
06:23:31,620 --> 06:23:33,420
to what I see on perusal. But

10479
06:23:33,420 --> 06:23:35,756
I'm also a lawyer, as you are,

10480
06:23:35,756 --> 06:23:37,691
and I don't know how -- whether

10481
06:23:37,691 --> 06:23:40,862
or not this language has been

10482
06:23:40,862 --> 06:23:41,963
looked at by ledge counsel, by

10483
06:23:41,963 --> 06:23:45,266
our ledgetive team here. I just

10484
06:23:45,266 --> 06:23:46,401
want to make sure that we're --

10485
06:23:46,401 --> 06:23:48,350
or we would be considering

10486
06:23:48,350 --> 06:23:51,439
something that is clear to all

10487
06:23:51,439 --> 06:23:54,476
of us. In section 1, I know

10488
06:23:54,476 --> 06:23:57,612
that I'm really grateful to the

10489
06:23:57,612 --> 06:23:59,313
assemblymember for section 1a

10490
06:23:59,313 --> 06:24:02,149
where he includes the two

10491
06:24:02,149 --> 06:24:04,510
supervisors and an alternate to

10492
06:24:04,510 --> 06:24:07,188
serve on the board of directors,

10493
06:24:07,188 --> 06:24:08,624
and in section c 1 of --

10494
06:24:08,624 --> 06:24:12,224
subsection c 1 of section a, it

10495
06:24:12,960 --> 06:24:13,594
looks like there is a

10496
06:24:13,594 --> 06:24:15,994
continue -- additional language

10497
06:24:15,998 --> 06:24:17,699
for the staggering of terms,

10498
06:24:17,699 --> 06:24:19,468
although, I haven't gone into

10499
06:24:19,468 --> 06:24:22,370
that detail. It's more section

10500
06:24:22,370 --> 06:24:25,173
2 where there will be, I

10501
06:24:25,173 --> 06:24:27,800
believe, under subsection b, the

10502
06:24:27,800 --> 06:24:29,408
independent, external audit to

10503
06:24:30,178 --> 06:24:32,247
evaluate a number of different

10504
06:24:32,247 --> 06:24:33,215
issue areas. So that's where I

10505
06:24:33,215 --> 06:24:35,183
think we need to have a little

10506
06:24:35,183 --> 06:24:36,785
bit more detail. I think this

10507
06:24:36,785 --> 06:24:37,720
is really encouraging. It's

10508
06:24:37,720 --> 06:24:39,822
down the right path. I think

10509
06:24:39,822 --> 06:24:41,324
that we're going to be

10510
06:24:41,324 --> 06:24:43,759
meeting -- I'm looking at the

10511
06:24:43,759 --> 06:24:45,160
schedule for tomorrow -- at

10512
06:24:45,160 --> 06:24:46,595
11:00 A.M. With the

10513
06:24:46,595 --> 06:24:48,995
assemblymember, and I believe

10514
06:24:49,165 --> 06:24:51,432
what was discussed here today is

10515
06:24:51,432 --> 06:24:53,869
all done I think in good faith

10516
06:24:53,869 --> 06:24:55,337
to work with the assemblymember

10517
06:24:55,337 --> 06:24:56,605
and these changes. But I do

10518
06:24:56,605 --> 06:24:57,673
think that we need a little bit

10519
06:24:57,673 --> 06:24:59,842
more time. It's abrupt. As

10520
06:24:59,842 --> 06:25:01,677
we've said, we've had over 100

10521
06:25:01,677 --> 06:25:03,645
items and then this gets layered

10522
06:25:03,645 --> 06:25:05,280
on top it for us to make a

10523
06:25:05,280 --> 06:25:06,982
quick, often cuff approval of

10524
06:25:06,982 --> 06:25:08,284
this. I certainly don't feel

10525
06:25:08,284 --> 06:25:10,284
comfortable doing that.

10526
06:25:12,121 --> 06:25:13,756
Although, I see -- I'm very

10527
06:25:13,756 --> 06:25:15,291
encouraged by what I see, I just

10528
06:25:15,291 --> 06:25:16,791
want to make sure that we have

10529
06:25:16,791 --> 06:25:19,193
others that can lend their eyes

10530
06:25:19,193 --> 06:25:22,665
to this and provide us with some

10531
06:25:22,665 --> 06:25:24,266
good background. I suggest we

10532
06:25:24,266 --> 06:25:27,266
hold with our recommendation as

10533
06:25:27,603 --> 06:25:29,771
was made earlier, and am very,

10534
06:25:29,771 --> 06:25:30,806
very, again, optimistic of

10535
06:25:30,806 --> 06:25:31,940
meeting with the assemblymember

10536
06:25:31,940 --> 06:25:33,675
and working through some of

10537
06:25:33,675 --> 06:25:35,440
these additional changes that he

10538
06:25:35,440 --> 06:25:36,144
MAY be recommending. By

10539
06:25:36,144 --> 06:25:39,144
tomorrow, we shrewed a better

10540
06:25:40,415 --> 06:25:42,417
idea of what they MAY mean. So

10541
06:25:42,417 --> 06:25:43,180
that would be my recommendation

10542
06:25:43,180 --> 06:25:46,180
>>chair, doug chaffee: so we

10543
06:25:46,387 --> 06:25:48,787
would withdraw the previous

10544
06:25:49,491 --> 06:25:50,492
recommendation of opposing,

10545
06:25:50,492 --> 06:25:52,260
instead, simply have a holding

10546
06:25:52,260 --> 06:25:53,595
position where we don't really

10547
06:25:53,595 --> 06:25:55,830
take a position until we've had

10548
06:25:55,830 --> 06:25:56,598
a chance to look at it further;

10549
06:25:56,598 --> 06:25:58,000
is that what you're saying

10550
06:25:58,000 --> 06:25:59,267
>>vincente sarmiento: yeah. You

10551
06:25:59,267 --> 06:26:01,690
know, because we've asked a lot

10552
06:26:01,690 --> 06:26:02,737
of others to write letters in

10553
06:26:02,737 --> 06:26:05,140
opposition. Right now it's more

10554
06:26:05,140 --> 06:26:06,741
maybe not taking a position,

10555
06:26:06,741 --> 06:26:08,877
although, we -- because we don't

10556
06:26:08,877 --> 06:26:09,811
know exactly what some of these

10557
06:26:09,811 --> 06:26:11,811
provisions mean

10558
06:26:12,113 --> 06:26:12,748
>>speaker: okay. Supervisor

10559
06:26:12,748 --> 06:26:14,315
wagner?

10560
06:26:14,315 --> 06:26:16,510
>>speaker: wanted to make and

10561
06:26:16,510 --> 06:26:19,622
maybe amplify the point you were

10562
06:26:19,622 --> 06:26:20,556
just making. We took an opposed

10563
06:26:20,556 --> 06:26:22,125
position and it now will reflect

10564
06:26:22,125 --> 06:26:25,228
an opposition to what is a

10565
06:26:25,228 --> 06:26:28,665
different bill. And so it MAY

10566
06:26:28,665 --> 06:26:31,665
require a board action to

10567
06:26:31,867 --> 06:26:33,302
rescind the opposition. That's

10568
06:26:33,302 --> 06:26:34,350
the first thing. And whether we

10569
06:26:34,350 --> 06:26:35,870
go all the way and support this

10570
06:26:35,870 --> 06:26:37,874
or the no, I agree, maybe take

10571
06:26:37,874 --> 06:26:38,473
some more time and more

10572
06:26:38,473 --> 06:26:41,244
analysis, and I'd like to hear

10573
06:26:41,244 --> 06:26:42,445
from our ledge team. But at a

10574
06:26:42,445 --> 06:26:44,460
minimum, I think we ought to

10575
06:26:44,460 --> 06:26:46,281
tell everybody, hey, stand down.

10576
06:26:46,281 --> 06:26:48,217
We are not opposed any longer.

10577
06:26:48,217 --> 06:26:50,119
We're just gonna not take any

10578
06:26:50,119 --> 06:26:53,119
position. But I think that

10579
06:26:53,289 --> 06:26:54,256
requires more board action.

10580
06:26:54,256 --> 06:26:54,557
>>chair, doug chaffee: okay.

10581
06:26:54,557 --> 06:26:55,558
Vice-chair.

10582
06:26:55,558 --> 06:26:57,526
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: yeah,

10583
06:26:57,526 --> 06:26:59,562
I agree with supervisor wagner,

10584
06:26:59,562 --> 06:27:01,296
and I'm -- I also think we need

10585
06:27:01,296 --> 06:27:04,000
to give direction, because if

10586
06:27:04,000 --> 06:27:05,133
two of you are going to be in

10587
06:27:05,133 --> 06:27:07,103
sacramento, you know, lobbying

10588
06:27:07,103 --> 06:27:08,870
on our behalf, we have to have a

10589
06:27:08,870 --> 06:27:11,740
position. I mean, most of

10590
06:27:11,740 --> 06:27:14,676
section 2 deals with audits. It

10591
06:27:14,676 --> 06:27:16,511
seems fine to me. It's all

10592
06:27:16,511 --> 06:27:19,315
about different types of audits

10593
06:27:19,315 --> 06:27:22,915
and what would be required in

10594
06:27:23,251 --> 06:27:26,188
terms of auditing. I don't see

10595
06:27:26,188 --> 06:27:29,788
any obvious reason to oppose it.

10596
06:27:30,793 --> 06:27:32,762
And so I would -- to me, it

10597
06:27:32,762 --> 06:27:36,962
seems like we got what we wanted

10598
06:27:38,000 --> 06:27:40,736
in terms of the staggering, and

10599
06:27:40,736 --> 06:27:43,271
the two board members and the

10600
06:27:43,271 --> 06:27:46,271
alternate are added back, and

10601
06:27:47,743 --> 06:27:50,145
then the rest of it is all about

10602
06:27:50,145 --> 06:27:52,545
conducting -- requiring the

10603
06:27:52,614 --> 06:27:55,484
health authority to conduct an

10604
06:27:55,484 --> 06:27:58,484
independent audit on a variety

10605
06:27:59,922 --> 06:28:00,722
of different matters. And so it

10606
06:28:00,722 --> 06:28:02,458
seems like consistent went what

10607
06:28:02,458 --> 06:28:05,458
we've been doing here anyway.

10608
06:28:05,595 --> 06:28:07,997
We've been doing auditing and

10609
06:28:07,997 --> 06:28:11,597
requiring audits and I don't see

10610
06:28:12,468 --> 06:28:15,171
why would we oppose an audit.

10611
06:28:15,171 --> 06:28:17,874
So I would move to rescind the

10612
06:28:17,874 --> 06:28:19,643
opposed position and to.

10613
06:28:19,643 --> 06:28:21,760
>>chair, doug chaffee: I think

10614
06:28:21,760 --> 06:28:21,811
we already a motion.

10615
06:28:21,811 --> 06:28:23,112
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: no,

10616
06:28:23,112 --> 06:28:23,880
he didn't make a motion

10617
06:28:23,880 --> 06:28:26,816
>>vincente sarmiento: let me go

10618
06:28:26,816 --> 06:28:29,520
ahead and move to remove or

10619
06:28:29,520 --> 06:28:31,452
rescind our opposition. Well,

10620
06:28:32,355 --> 06:28:33,289
as chair of the board at cal

10621
06:28:33,289 --> 06:28:34,390
optima, I would appreciate the

10622
06:28:34,390 --> 06:28:35,892
curtracy to make that motion. I

10623
06:28:35,892 --> 06:28:38,761
believe we're going to be

10624
06:28:38,761 --> 06:28:40,290
meeting with MR. -- the author

10625
06:28:40,290 --> 06:28:41,498
of the bill, and I think we'll

10626
06:28:41,498 --> 06:28:42,565
go ahead and let him clarify

10627
06:28:42,565 --> 06:28:44,534
some of these proceed violations

10628
06:28:44,534 --> 06:28:45,168
with us as well..

10629
06:28:45,168 --> 06:28:46,402
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: but

10630
06:28:46,402 --> 06:28:47,504
we have to take a position

10631
06:28:47,504 --> 06:28:48,605
>>vincente sarmiento: I just

10632
06:28:48,605 --> 06:28:50,380
said that we would.

10633
06:28:50,380 --> 06:28:52,740
>>chair, doug chaffee, no, we

10634
06:28:52,740 --> 06:28:52,341
don't have to take a position

10635
06:28:52,341 --> 06:28:53,900
>>speaker.

10636
06:28:53,900 --> 06:28:53,676
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: we do

10637
06:28:53,676 --> 06:28:55,177
because they're going to lobby

10638
06:28:55,177 --> 06:28:57,781
on behalf of the county. Don't

10639
06:28:57,781 --> 06:28:58,348
we have to have a position.

10640
06:28:58,348 --> 06:28:59,181
>>chair, doug chaffee: their

10641
06:28:59,181 --> 06:29:00,784
position I think is respected as

10642
06:29:00,784 --> 06:29:02,252
members of the caloptima board.

10643
06:29:02,252 --> 06:29:03,986
I don't think we need to give

10644
06:29:03,986 --> 06:29:04,286
them any particular

10645
06:29:04,286 --> 06:29:05,120
instruction.

10646
06:29:05,120 --> 06:29:06,990
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: would

10647
06:29:06,990 --> 06:29:09,910
you apply that to all of us

10648
06:29:09,910 --> 06:29:11,160
>>leon page: if I MAY, first I

10649
06:29:11,160 --> 06:29:12,610
radio suggest the board take a

10650
06:29:12,610 --> 06:29:15,610
vote on whether to reconsider

10651
06:29:15,970 --> 06:29:15,732
the action on item 71.

10652
06:29:15,732 --> 06:29:17,534
Assuming -- and I suppose that

10653
06:29:17,534 --> 06:29:19,135
could be combined with a motion

10654
06:29:19,135 --> 06:29:20,537
to vacate the board's prior

10655
06:29:20,537 --> 06:29:21,971
action. Then once that's

10656
06:29:21,971 --> 06:29:23,607
happened, then there could be a

10657
06:29:23,607 --> 06:29:25,207
new motion as to whether or not

10658
06:29:25,207 --> 06:29:25,618
to give direction or take a

10659
06:29:25,618 --> 06:29:27,344
position.

10660
06:29:27,344 --> 06:29:30,446
But first I think you ought to

10661
06:29:30,446 --> 06:29:32,150
formally reconsider and vacate

10662
06:29:32,150 --> 06:29:33,830
the prior action on 71

10663
06:29:33,830 --> 06:29:33,315
>>janet nguyen: I'll second that

10664
06:29:33,315 --> 06:29:34,516
motion.

10665
06:29:34,516 --> 06:29:35,985
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

10666
06:29:35,985 --> 06:29:37,985
right. Supervisor sarmiento

10667
06:29:41,257 --> 06:29:43,626
asked for that curtracy. Oo

10668
06:29:43,626 --> 06:29:44,994
curt -- that courtesy

10669
06:29:44,994 --> 06:29:47,394
>>vincente sarmiento: yes, and

10670
06:29:47,930 --> 06:29:50,533
I'll move that with a position

10671
06:29:50,533 --> 06:29:52,302
to vacate our previously

10672
06:29:52,302 --> 06:29:53,470
position to oppose

10673
06:29:53,470 --> 06:29:55,172
>>chair, doug chaffee: is there

10674
06:29:55,172 --> 06:29:56,720
any opposition to removing the

10675
06:29:56,720 --> 06:29:57,507
previous recommended action?

10676
06:29:57,507 --> 06:29:59,643
Seeing none, that is now gone.

10677
06:29:59,643 --> 06:30:01,277
All right, is there some

10678
06:30:01,277 --> 06:30:01,678
subsequent action we can take?

10679
06:30:01,678 --> 06:30:03,113
Supervisor nguyen?

10680
06:30:03,113 --> 06:30:05,513
>>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN,

10681
06:30:06,160 --> 06:30:08,285
and I don't oppose auditing. I

10682
06:30:08,285 --> 06:30:09,219
completely support it. However,

10683
06:30:09,219 --> 06:30:10,654
I mean, I'm not a lawyer, and

10684
06:30:10,654 --> 06:30:12,789
this is last minute. I'm just

10685
06:30:12,789 --> 06:30:15,189
reading this, there's a

10686
06:30:16,526 --> 06:30:19,526
provision on here on the

10687
06:30:20,564 --> 06:30:22,165
auditing part with the 4 to

10688
06:30:22,165 --> 06:30:24,301
fifth item. It says whether the

10689
06:30:24,301 --> 06:30:26,236
orange county health authority

10690
06:30:26,236 --> 06:30:28,237
governor structure policy or

10691
06:30:28,237 --> 06:30:29,640
practice it appropriately

10692
06:30:29,640 --> 06:30:31,308
preserve the ability of

10693
06:30:31,308 --> 06:30:33,477
executive staff leadership and

10694
06:30:33,477 --> 06:30:34,377
staff able toedly conduct

10695
06:30:34,377 --> 06:30:36,313
contracting procurement

10696
06:30:36,313 --> 06:30:38,214
functions consistent with the

10697
06:30:38,214 --> 06:30:40,614
governing bodies oversight role.

10698
06:30:40,951 --> 06:30:41,551
And I'm not a lawyer. I'm the

10699
06:30:41,551 --> 06:30:45,151
only one on this board that's

10700
06:30:45,822 --> 06:30:47,391
not. I look at that as almost

10701
06:30:47,391 --> 06:30:48,925
allowing executive staff to

10702
06:30:48,925 --> 06:30:51,325
contract without going before

10703
06:30:52,620 --> 06:30:53,597
the board. And it could be

10704
06:30:53,597 --> 06:30:56,299
interpreted that way. I -- you

10705
06:30:56,299 --> 06:30:57,401
know, I think -- and that's

10706
06:30:57,401 --> 06:31:00,270
where I think there's some of

10707
06:31:00,270 --> 06:31:02,670
these nuances -- because,

10708
06:31:02,705 --> 06:31:04,308
remember, the previous bill that

10709
06:31:04,308 --> 06:31:09,108
was done when I was up there had

10710
06:31:09,346 --> 06:31:11,747
some problems, and these nuances

10711
06:31:11,747 --> 06:31:14,747
as interpreted later could cause

10712
06:31:14,885 --> 06:31:18,200
a big problem. And why that

10713
06:31:18,200 --> 06:31:19,689
would be a concern for me if

10714
06:31:19,689 --> 06:31:21,157
executive staff are allowed to

10715
06:31:21,157 --> 06:31:22,659
just do contract without going

10716
06:31:22,659 --> 06:31:24,194
to the board regardless of the

10717
06:31:24,194 --> 06:31:26,262
amount is not what I've been

10718
06:31:26,262 --> 06:31:29,332
supportive on this board at the

10719
06:31:29,332 --> 06:31:31,101
county. We change our

10720
06:31:31,101 --> 06:31:32,468
procurement process. We changed

10721
06:31:32,468 --> 06:31:34,772
our purchasing to have that

10722
06:31:34,772 --> 06:31:37,772
oversight by the county here,

10723
06:31:37,874 --> 06:31:40,845
and I cannot support something

10724
06:31:40,845 --> 06:31:42,712
that would allow caloptima staff

10725
06:31:42,712 --> 06:31:44,682
to do whatever -- contract

10726
06:31:44,682 --> 06:31:45,582
whatever, regardless of the

10727
06:31:45,582 --> 06:31:47,982
amount, regardless of the

10728
06:31:48,619 --> 06:31:50,220
contract, but that's my, just,

10729
06:31:50,220 --> 06:31:52,456
first take at this. I don't

10730
06:31:52,456 --> 06:31:54,725
know. So I think not taking a

10731
06:31:54,725 --> 06:31:56,393
position right now I'm hopeful

10732
06:31:56,393 --> 06:31:58,529
that maybe we can scct assembly

10733
06:31:58,529 --> 06:32:00,264
man or maybe we could, you know,

10734
06:32:00,264 --> 06:32:01,832
get our counsel here and maybe

10735
06:32:01,832 --> 06:32:04,602
cal optima downtown opine on

10736
06:32:04,602 --> 06:32:06,337
what does that interpretation

10737
06:32:06,337 --> 06:32:07,437
means. I mean, I'm not asking

10738
06:32:07,437 --> 06:32:09,607
for it right now but I'm saying

10739
06:32:09,607 --> 06:32:13,807
that I think it needs some time

10740
06:32:20,116 --> 06:32:20,984
to vet it through..

10741
06:32:20,984 --> 06:32:23,153
>>chair, doug chaffee: so I'm

10742
06:32:23,153 --> 06:32:24,687
not sure where we are. I'm

10743
06:32:24,687 --> 06:32:27,687
reading through this. It seems

10744
06:32:28,559 --> 06:32:29,726
to me it's pretty much too much.

10745
06:32:29,726 --> 06:32:31,662
I don't really understand some

10746
06:32:31,662 --> 06:32:35,862
of these things. And I think it

10747
06:32:37,134 --> 06:32:38,768
does not fully understand how

10748
06:32:38,768 --> 06:32:41,710
caloptima works. We've done a

10749
06:32:41,710 --> 06:32:42,239
lot of good works performing

10750
06:32:42,239 --> 06:32:44,740
things already. We've had a lot

10751
06:32:44,740 --> 06:32:45,509
of audits over there already,

10752
06:32:45,509 --> 06:32:47,444
expensive ones. So maybe the

10753
06:32:47,444 --> 06:32:48,245
position is to support if

10754
06:32:48,245 --> 06:32:50,914
amended. Would that be the

10755
06:32:50,914 --> 06:32:51,714
right time kind of thing?

10756
06:32:51,714 --> 06:32:53,984
>>vincente sarmiento: we have

10757
06:32:53,984 --> 06:32:55,218
somebody from our ledge team,

10758
06:32:55,218 --> 06:32:56,754
jonathan, do you mind coming up

10759
06:32:56,754 --> 06:32:57,654
and maybe giving us some

10760
06:32:57,654 --> 06:32:57,888
guidance? What would you

10761
06:32:57,888 --> 06:32:58,455
suggest.

10762
06:32:58,455 --> 06:32:59,889
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

10763
06:32:59,889 --> 06:33:01,691
MR. CHAIRMAN, first I had a

10764
06:33:01,691 --> 06:33:03,294
question. I had already asked

10765
06:33:03,294 --> 06:33:04,694
for the floor. If I could ask

10766
06:33:04,694 --> 06:33:07,694
my question. Thank you. It

10767
06:33:09,868 --> 06:33:10,768
looks like section 2b is the

10768
06:33:10,768 --> 06:33:12,435
independent external audit shall

10769
06:33:12,435 --> 06:33:13,670
evaluate at a minimum all of the

10770
06:33:13,670 --> 06:33:16,700
following. And then what

10771
06:33:17,475 --> 06:33:19,875
follows is sections 1 through 8.

10772
06:33:21,579 --> 06:33:24,682
And that is what they're asking

10773
06:33:24,682 --> 06:33:27,786
the audit to cover. So it's not

10774
06:33:27,786 --> 06:33:29,386
giving direction as it relates

10775
06:33:29,386 --> 06:33:30,854
to the contracting and whether

10776
06:33:30,854 --> 06:33:33,825
or not -- what's the value of

10777
06:33:33,825 --> 06:33:36,590
the contracting. It's just

10778
06:33:36,590 --> 06:33:39,590
suggesting that one of the

10779
06:33:39,697 --> 06:33:41,498
categories of the audit be the

10780
06:33:41,498 --> 06:33:43,498
health authority's governance

10781
06:33:44,202 --> 06:33:46,202
structure policies and

10782
06:33:46,737 --> 06:33:49,137
procedures and ability to

10783
06:33:49,240 --> 06:33:50,675
conduct contracting and

10784
06:33:50,675 --> 06:33:52,675
procurement functions. So

10785
06:33:52,776 --> 06:33:54,545
that's how I read it. It

10786
06:33:54,545 --> 06:33:56,547
doesn't read to me to be

10787
06:33:56,547 --> 06:33:59,547
requiring anything other than an

10788
06:34:00,717 --> 06:34:02,190
audit of those practices..

10789
06:34:02,190 --> 06:34:04,419
>>chair, doug chaffee: well,

10790
06:34:05,922 --> 06:34:10,722
some of this is odd the way it's

10791
06:34:11,295 --> 06:34:12,396
worded, and it talks about the

10792
06:34:12,396 --> 06:34:14,396
independent conducted interviews

10793
06:34:15,232 --> 06:34:17,367
with caloptima staff by an

10794
06:34:17,367 --> 06:34:19,569
anonymous opportunity to share

10795
06:34:19,569 --> 06:34:21,104
their feedback. I don't know if

10796
06:34:21,104 --> 06:34:22,606
that's standard audit practice.

10797
06:34:22,606 --> 06:34:25,242
I think that's a little bit far

10798
06:34:25,242 --> 06:34:26,176
out, that type of stuff. So I

10799
06:34:26,176 --> 06:34:29,776
think this isn't right the way

10800
06:34:37,254 --> 06:34:41,291
it is.. Do you have a comment

10801
06:34:41,291 --> 06:34:42,826
here please?

10802
06:34:42,826 --> 06:34:44,228
>>speaker: I wanted to clarify,

10803
06:34:44,228 --> 06:34:45,829
the language in front of you is

10804
06:34:45,829 --> 06:34:48,229
negotiated with the senate

10805
06:34:49,233 --> 06:34:52,233
health committee and the authors

10806
06:34:53,403 --> 06:34:55,839
office.. It is not in print

10807
06:34:55,839 --> 06:34:58,876
yet. So the bill that is in

10808
06:34:58,876 --> 06:35:00,945
print we would like to remain

10809
06:35:00,945 --> 06:35:02,130
opposed to -- previous to the

10810
06:35:02,130 --> 06:35:05,130
board action but if this

10811
06:35:05,750 --> 06:35:08,850
language was accepted and was

10812
06:35:08,850 --> 06:35:09,488
presented from the senate health

10813
06:35:09,488 --> 06:35:12,488
committee tomorrow we would be

10814
06:35:13,224 --> 06:35:15,590
able to remove our opposition to

10815
06:35:15,590 --> 06:35:16,461
it..

10816
06:35:16,461 --> 06:35:18,162
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: so

10817
06:35:18,162 --> 06:35:18,363
those unless appled would be

10818
06:35:18,363 --> 06:35:19,597
right

10819
06:35:19,597 --> 06:35:21,990
>>janet nguyen: well, that

10820
06:35:21,990 --> 06:35:22,600
change what is we just took an

10821
06:35:22,600 --> 06:35:23,534
action on. This would have been

10822
06:35:23,534 --> 06:35:27,134
helpful to know that this was

10823
06:35:29,274 --> 06:35:30,408
not in print. So if -- we just

10824
06:35:30,408 --> 06:35:34,246
rescinded a vote on a bill that

10825
06:35:34,246 --> 06:35:37,480
is currently in print, which we

10826
06:35:37,480 --> 06:35:39,584
still want to oppose. You know,

10827
06:35:39,584 --> 06:35:43,184
either we go back to opposing

10828
06:35:43,354 --> 06:35:45,824
the current printed version, and

10829
06:35:45,824 --> 06:35:47,958
I think we should do that, and

10830
06:35:47,958 --> 06:35:49,660
then wait till in one officially

10831
06:35:49,660 --> 06:35:51,863
goes into print and then, you

10832
06:35:51,863 --> 06:35:54,132
know, have that discussion. But

10833
06:35:54,132 --> 06:35:54,965
we hear the board. We hear your

10834
06:35:54,965 --> 06:35:57,100
concerns. And so we will at

10835
06:35:57,100 --> 06:35:59,401
least have those conversations

10836
06:35:59,537 --> 06:36:00,804
up in sacramento tomorrow. So

10837
06:36:00,804 --> 06:36:04,420
would you like to make that

10838
06:36:04,420 --> 06:36:05,810
motion again?

10839
06:36:05,810 --> 06:36:07,244
>>vincente sarmiento: to

10840
06:36:07,244 --> 06:36:09,644
continue with our opposed

10841
06:36:10,916 --> 06:36:13,818
position because this is a draft

10842
06:36:13,818 --> 06:36:14,385
language that hasn't been

10843
06:36:14,385 --> 06:36:15,687
approved. We don't have the

10844
06:36:15,687 --> 06:36:17,988
final version. So the actual

10845
06:36:17,988 --> 06:36:20,240
version is still the same

10846
06:36:20,240 --> 06:36:21,826
version that this board

10847
06:36:21,826 --> 06:36:24,226
unanimously opposed. Thank you

10848
06:36:24,763 --> 06:36:25,564
for clarifying that..

10849
06:36:25,564 --> 06:36:27,198
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I can

10850
06:36:27,198 --> 06:36:28,799
ask another clarifying question

10851
06:36:28,799 --> 06:36:30,502
just so that we don't.

10852
06:36:30,502 --> 06:36:32,303
>>chair, doug chaffee: we're

10853
06:36:32,303 --> 06:36:32,503
getting too deep into the woods

10854
06:36:32,503 --> 06:36:33,370
here.

10855
06:36:33,370 --> 06:36:33,671
>>v. Chair, katrina foley:

10856
06:36:33,671 --> 06:36:35,473
because we need to know -- it's

10857
06:36:35,473 --> 06:36:37,642
a timing question. Like when

10858
06:36:37,642 --> 06:36:39,510
will -- do you expect this to go

10859
06:36:39,510 --> 06:36:42,130
into print? I mean, is this

10860
06:36:42,130 --> 06:36:43,347
expected to go into print

10861
06:36:43,347 --> 06:36:45,347
tomorrow?

10862
06:36:46,918 --> 06:36:47,985
>>speaker: you've hit the point.

10863
06:36:47,985 --> 06:36:50,288
So we would expect this to go

10864
06:36:50,288 --> 06:36:50,855
into print and that's what we

10865
06:36:50,855 --> 06:36:51,723
would need direction on the

10866
06:36:51,723 --> 06:36:54,580
board from, to remove the

10867
06:36:54,580 --> 06:36:54,259
opposition if this goes into

10868
06:36:54,259 --> 06:36:55,460
print.

10869
06:36:55,460 --> 06:36:57,229
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay

10870
06:36:57,229 --> 06:36:58,697
>>janet nguyen: so usually when

10871
06:36:58,697 --> 06:37:01,697
it goes into print, it's

10872
06:37:01,700 --> 06:37:02,934
probably going to be some time

10873
06:37:02,934 --> 06:37:04,369
tonight, usually around 8:00

10874
06:37:04,369 --> 06:37:09,169
P.M. Or a little after it will

10875
06:37:09,741 --> 06:37:13,941
go into print. And so kind of

10876
06:37:15,981 --> 06:37:19,581
awkward maybe we -- maybe the

10877
06:37:20,518 --> 06:37:22,988
motion, if I can suggest, is

10878
06:37:22,988 --> 06:37:25,388
oppose the current printed

10879
06:37:26,858 --> 06:37:29,728
version and then the unprinted

10880
06:37:29,728 --> 06:37:33,928
version we will -- if that does

10881
06:37:34,666 --> 06:37:36,330
get printed officially to the

10882
06:37:36,330 --> 06:37:38,503
public, but today we will then

10883
06:37:38,503 --> 06:37:41,339
include that mowing as then we

10884
06:37:41,339 --> 06:37:42,740
would withdraw our current

10885
06:37:42,740 --> 06:37:44,408
opposition to the current

10886
06:37:44,408 --> 06:37:44,609
printed bill. If that makes any

10887
06:37:44,609 --> 06:37:45,176
sense.

10888
06:37:45,176 --> 06:37:46,844
>>v. Chair, katrina foley: I

10889
06:37:46,844 --> 06:37:48,413
think that makes sense.

10890
06:37:48,413 --> 06:37:49,347
>>vincente sarmiento: I'll

10891
06:37:49,347 --> 06:37:50,783
second it, but this is really,

10892
06:37:50,783 --> 06:37:52,250
really messy because had we not

10893
06:37:52,250 --> 06:37:54,386
received this, we just would

10894
06:37:54,386 --> 06:37:55,190
have gone forward, we would have

10895
06:37:55,190 --> 06:37:56,688
met tomorrow and we would have

10896
06:37:56,688 --> 06:37:58,389
worked this out anyways. So

10897
06:37:58,389 --> 06:38:00,725
we're going through this just

10898
06:38:00,725 --> 06:38:01,994
sort of fortuitously that we

10899
06:38:01,994 --> 06:38:04,462
have this draft language and

10900
06:38:04,462 --> 06:38:05,797
we're trying to solve this in

10901
06:38:05,797 --> 06:38:08,100
anticipation of we don't know

10902
06:38:08,100 --> 06:38:09,134
what. I mean, something MAY

10903
06:38:09,134 --> 06:38:10,536
happen. Maybe the author

10904
06:38:10,536 --> 06:38:12,370
changes his mind and says, look,

10905
06:38:12,370 --> 06:38:14,673
I don't want to have this draft

10906
06:38:14,673 --> 06:38:17,475
put into print -- into an active

10907
06:38:17,475 --> 06:38:18,911
bill. So anyways, look, I'll

10908
06:38:18,911 --> 06:38:20,450
support it for the sake of just

10909
06:38:20,450 --> 06:38:22,470
moving this forward but I think

10910
06:38:22,470 --> 06:38:22,880
this is an exercise that's very

10911
06:38:22,880 --> 06:38:23,648
odd..

10912
06:38:23,648 --> 06:38:25,184
>>chair, doug chaffee: county

10913
06:38:25,184 --> 06:38:29,121
counsel, do we have a clarity on

10914
06:38:29,121 --> 06:38:31,121
the motion?

10915
06:38:32,725 --> 06:38:33,558
>>leon page: I understood it as

10916
06:38:33,558 --> 06:38:35,958
opposed, continue to oppose

10917
06:38:37,296 --> 06:38:38,897
unless amended..

10918
06:38:38,897 --> 06:38:39,632
>>chair, doug chaffee: as

10919
06:38:39,632 --> 06:38:41,133
printed and wasn't there

10920
06:38:41,133 --> 06:38:43,200
something about if this new

10921
06:38:43,200 --> 06:38:47,202
version comes in? Or do we do

10922
06:38:49,742 --> 06:38:52,142
nothing on that? M

10923
06:38:53,450 --> 06:38:56,450
>>leon page: we're no longer

10924
06:38:58,751 --> 06:39:00,219
opposed..

10925
06:39:00,219 --> 06:39:02,588
>>chair, doug chaffee: we have a

10926
06:39:02,588 --> 06:39:04,155
motion and a second over here?

10927
06:39:04,155 --> 06:39:05,723
Is there any objection to that

10928
06:39:05,723 --> 06:39:07,893
position? Okay. Have fun

10929
06:39:07,893 --> 06:39:09,893
tomorrow. Enjoy sacramento.

10930
06:39:10,229 --> 06:39:13,299
And, you know, all call me if

10931
06:39:13,299 --> 06:39:16,299
you need any commiseration. And

10932
06:39:16,369 --> 06:39:19,605
we'll see where we go with this.

10933
06:39:19,605 --> 06:39:20,238
Okay. Now, back

10934
06:39:20,238 --> 06:39:21,940
back to

10935
06:39:21,940 --> 06:39:24,340
memorial adjournments. Who has

10936
06:39:25,110 --> 06:39:26,378
any? Anyone have -- supervisor

10937
06:39:26,378 --> 06:39:27,450
sarmiento, go ahead

10938
06:39:27,450 --> 06:39:28,179
>>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank

10939
06:39:28,179 --> 06:39:31,616
you, MR. Chair. I know it's

10940
06:39:31,616 --> 06:39:32,685
been a long day, but this is one

10941
06:39:32,685 --> 06:39:35,870
I, you know, is hard to make. I

10942
06:39:35,870 --> 06:39:37,356
know it's somebody that we knew

10943
06:39:37,356 --> 06:39:38,757
well. Before we adjourn today's

10944
06:39:38,757 --> 06:39:40,425
meeting, I'd like to take a

10945
06:39:40,425 --> 06:39:44,250
moment to honor the life and

10946
06:39:44,163 --> 06:39:46,298
legacy of augustine know chung

10947
06:39:46,298 --> 06:39:47,133
gao who passed away on

10948
06:39:47,133 --> 06:39:50,403
JUNE 7th, 2026 at the age of

10949
06:39:50,403 --> 06:39:52,438
80. He lived a life defined by

10950
06:39:52,438 --> 06:39:54,838
faith, perseverance, service and

10951
06:39:55,206 --> 06:39:56,776
compassion, born in denang

10952
06:39:56,776 --> 06:39:57,709
vietnam he overcame

10953
06:39:57,709 --> 06:39:59,512
extraordinary challenges and

10954
06:39:59,512 --> 06:40:00,913
hardships before emigrating to

10955
06:40:00,913 --> 06:40:03,810
the united states where he built

10956
06:40:03,810 --> 06:40:04,349
a new life dedicated to helping

10957
06:40:04,349 --> 06:40:06,749
others and strengthening his

10958
06:40:07,190 --> 06:40:07,653
community. As a respected

10959
06:40:07,653 --> 06:40:09,588
pharmacist, community leader and

10960
06:40:09,588 --> 06:40:10,923
advocate, he touched countless

10961
06:40:10,923 --> 06:40:11,723
lives through his work and

10962
06:40:11,723 --> 06:40:13,723
generosity, through his

10963
06:40:14,660 --> 06:40:17,600
leadership at delta drug

10964
06:40:17,960 --> 06:40:18,530
pharmacy and his support of

10965
06:40:18,530 --> 06:40:19,931
civic engagement, cultural

10966
06:40:19,931 --> 06:40:20,732
preservation, black APRIL

10967
06:40:20,732 --> 06:40:22,335
commemorations, human rights

10968
06:40:22,335 --> 06:40:24,700
advocacy and vietnamese language

10969
06:40:24,700 --> 06:40:25,371
media he became a trusted

10970
06:40:25,371 --> 06:40:26,272
admired figure throughout orange

10971
06:40:26,272 --> 06:40:28,272
county's vietnamese american

10972
06:40:29,475 --> 06:40:32,378
community. Those who knew him

10973
06:40:32,378 --> 06:40:34,470
often spoke of his humility,

10974
06:40:34,470 --> 06:40:36,382
kindness and deep commitment to

10975
06:40:36,382 --> 06:40:37,684
family he instilled in future

10976
06:40:37,684 --> 06:40:39,918
generations, the values of

10977
06:40:39,918 --> 06:40:41,421
faith, education, integrity and

10978
06:40:41,421 --> 06:40:42,522
public service leaving a leg

10979
06:40:42,522 --> 06:40:44,756
guess will continue to inspire

10980
06:40:44,756 --> 06:40:47,327
others for years to come. As we

10981
06:40:47,327 --> 06:40:48,861
reflect on his life, we extend

10982
06:40:48,861 --> 06:40:50,330
our heart-felt condolences to

10983
06:40:50,330 --> 06:40:52,597
his family, friends, and all

10984
06:40:52,597 --> 06:40:54,500
those mourning his loss. MAY

10985
06:40:54,500 --> 06:40:55,435
they find comfort in the

10986
06:40:55,435 --> 06:40:57,469
tremendous impact he made and

10987
06:40:57,469 --> 06:40:59,905
the many lives he touched. In

10988
06:40:59,905 --> 06:41:02,709
closing I ask that we remember

10989
06:41:02,709 --> 06:41:04,843
augustine know for his courage,

10990
06:41:04,843 --> 06:41:06,378
his generosity, his unwavering

10991
06:41:06,378 --> 06:41:07,746
commitment to serving others.

10992
06:41:07,746 --> 06:41:09,381
MAY his memory be a blessing and

10993
06:41:09,381 --> 06:41:11,718
his legacy continue to inspire

10994
06:41:11,718 --> 06:41:15,918
us all. I'll be asking that we

10995
06:41:21,661 --> 06:41:22,194
adjourn in his memory..

10996
06:41:22,194 --> 06:41:23,763
>>chair, doug chaffee: all

10997
06:41:23,763 --> 06:41:25,265
right. Any others?

10998
06:41:25,265 --> 06:41:27,665
>>don wagner: thank you,

10999
06:41:27,666 --> 06:41:31,266
MR. CHAIRMAN. Let me start with

11000
06:41:31,337 --> 06:41:32,338
jill cooley. She was a woman

11001
06:41:32,338 --> 06:41:33,639
immense creative energy and

11002
06:41:33,639 --> 06:41:34,374
unwavering integrity. After

11003
06:41:34,374 --> 06:41:36,774
graduating from the university

11004
06:41:36,776 --> 06:41:38,511
of redlands in 1960, jill began

11005
06:41:38,511 --> 06:41:40,120
her career as a second-grade

11006
06:41:40,120 --> 06:41:42,248
teacher. She later earn

11007
06:41:42,248 --> 06:41:43,490
administer's in educational

11008
06:41:43,490 --> 06:41:45,351
psychology serving as a

11009
06:41:45,351 --> 06:41:45,984
dedicated school psychologist

11010
06:41:45,984 --> 06:41:46,985
for tustin unified school

11011
06:41:46,985 --> 06:41:49,722
district for over two decades.

11012
06:41:49,722 --> 06:41:51,457
In 1963 she married dennis

11013
06:41:51,457 --> 06:41:53,525
cooley, together they built a

11014
06:41:53,525 --> 06:41:55,394
life in villa park raising their

11015
06:41:55,394 --> 06:41:58,365
three sons eric, mark, and kirk

11016
06:41:58,365 --> 06:41:59,598
while fostering deep, lifelong

11017
06:41:59,598 --> 06:42:01,333
roots in the community. They

11018
06:42:01,333 --> 06:42:03,733
also enjoyed sponsoring foreign

11019
06:42:03,736 --> 06:42:05,371
students through rotary. Jill's

11020
06:42:05,371 --> 06:42:06,873
primary architect at the villa

11021
06:42:06,873 --> 06:42:08,908
park community spirit is a

11022
06:42:08,908 --> 06:42:11,311
charter member of the villa park

11023
06:42:11,311 --> 06:42:12,746
rotary club, the villa park

11024
06:42:12,746 --> 06:42:14,746
community services foundation

11025
06:42:15,148 --> 06:42:17,651
and peo chapter s. She applied

11026
06:42:17,651 --> 06:42:19,119
her graphic design talents and

11027
06:42:19,119 --> 06:42:20,754
leadership skills to countless

11028
06:42:20,754 --> 06:42:22,754
initiatives. Known

11029
06:42:22,922 --> 06:42:23,657
affectionately as the hippo

11030
06:42:23,657 --> 06:42:25,892
lady, the title she proudly

11031
06:42:25,892 --> 06:42:28,892
displayed on her license plate,

11032
06:42:28,895 --> 06:42:29,829
she was a dedicated collector of

11033
06:42:29,829 --> 06:42:31,364
hippopotamuses, mirrors and

11034
06:42:31,364 --> 06:42:34,364
kaleidoscopes, and yes, I looked

11035
06:42:34,434 --> 06:42:37,434
it up, it's hippopotamuses, not

11036
06:42:42,641 --> 06:42:45,245
him potami -- hippopotami. She

11037
06:42:45,245 --> 06:42:46,478
had a 100-person extended family

11038
06:42:46,478 --> 06:42:48,315
and friends she loved and

11039
06:42:48,315 --> 06:42:49,816
traveled the colorado river with

11040
06:42:49,816 --> 06:42:52,552
for over 50 years. She was an

11041
06:42:52,552 --> 06:42:54,954
elder statesman of her city

11042
06:42:54,954 --> 06:42:55,821
leaving behind a family she

11043
06:42:55,821 --> 06:42:56,756
adored and a community

11044
06:42:56,756 --> 06:42:58,825
transformed by her decades of

11045
06:42:58,825 --> 06:43:01,225
service and friendship. Please

11046
06:43:02,762 --> 06:43:04,640
keep the cooley sons and their

11047
06:43:04,640 --> 06:43:05,731
family in your thoughts and

11048
06:43:05,731 --> 06:43:09,331
prayers. And I have one more

11049
06:43:09,635 --> 06:43:10,704
for les ritter. Les was born in

11050
06:43:10,704 --> 06:43:12,873
baltimore in 1929. He moved to

11051
06:43:12,873 --> 06:43:14,373
southern california in 1951 to

11052
06:43:14,373 --> 06:43:16,376
begin his long career with

11053
06:43:16,376 --> 06:43:18,100
southern california edison,

11054
06:43:18,100 --> 06:43:18,911
retiring 38 years later as

11055
06:43:18,911 --> 06:43:21,311
superintendent of the fullerton

11056
06:43:24,150 --> 06:43:25,986
district. During his there he

11057
06:43:25,986 --> 06:43:27,386
served as superintendent in the

11058
06:43:27,386 --> 06:43:28,220
arrowhead district and then

11059
06:43:28,220 --> 06:43:28,889
manager in the santa ana

11060
06:43:28,889 --> 06:43:30,923
district and later as

11061
06:43:30,923 --> 06:43:32,458
superintendent in the el toro

11062
06:43:32,458 --> 06:43:34,293
district and then in fullerton

11063
06:43:34,293 --> 06:43:35,495
until his retirement in 1989.

11064
06:43:35,495 --> 06:43:36,763
He was known and respected for

11065
06:43:36,763 --> 06:43:38,932
his innovative and creative

11066
06:43:38,932 --> 06:43:40,466
problem solving skills which

11067
06:43:40,466 --> 06:43:42,466
significantly improved the

11068
06:43:43,470 --> 06:43:45,672
orange county sec electrical

11069
06:43:45,672 --> 06:43:46,806
distribution system. Les said

11070
06:43:46,806 --> 06:43:47,641
his greatest pleasure was in the

11071
06:43:47,641 --> 06:43:48,909
promotion and development of the

11072
06:43:48,909 --> 06:43:52,450
young men and women who worked

11073
06:43:52,450 --> 06:43:52,913
for him. In 1985 he married his

11074
06:43:52,913 --> 06:43:54,781
wife jane, and they moved to a

11075
06:43:54,781 --> 06:43:57,217
beautiful home in yorba linda.

11076
06:43:57,217 --> 06:43:59,420
He was a lifelong tennis player

11077
06:43:59,420 --> 06:44:00,320
and fan traveling locally and to

11078
06:44:00,320 --> 06:44:01,855
new york and australia for

11079
06:44:01,855 --> 06:44:03,423
championship tournaments. He

11080
06:44:03,423 --> 06:44:04,992
and jane traveled extensively to

11081
06:44:04,992 --> 06:44:06,727
always return to their yorba

11082
06:44:06,727 --> 06:44:08,795
linda home to enjoy entertaining

11083
06:44:08,795 --> 06:44:10,864
family and friends. He is

11084
06:44:10,864 --> 06:44:11,832
survived by jane, his daughter

11085
06:44:11,832 --> 06:44:13,367
christine, two grabbed

11086
06:44:13,367 --> 06:44:16,367
daughters, tan that and kelly,

11087
06:44:16,370 --> 06:44:18,638
three great grandchildren, and a

11088
06:44:18,638 --> 06:44:21,380
great, great grandson. His

11089
06:44:22,509 --> 06:44:24,812
dying wish was to be entered at

11090
06:44:24,812 --> 06:44:26,479
new orange county cemetery in

11091
06:44:26,479 --> 06:44:28,615
anaheim hills once he's

11092
06:44:28,615 --> 06:44:30,818
completed. And we will honor

11093
06:44:30,818 --> 06:44:31,151
that wish shortly. Thank you,

11094
06:44:31,151 --> 06:44:31,785
mr. CHAIRMAN.

11095
06:44:31,785 --> 06:44:33,853
>>chair, doug chaffee: thank

11096
06:44:33,853 --> 06:44:34,487
you, supervisor wagner. All

11097
06:44:34,487 --> 06:44:37,900
right, I think we're at the end

11098
06:44:37,900 --> 06:44:38,391
of our meeting. We will not

11099
06:44:38,391 --> 06:44:38,959
meet again unless there's a

11100
06:44:38,959 --> 06:44:41,359
special meeting called until

11101
06:44:42,295 --> 06:44:45,895
next AUGUST. With that, we are

11102
06:44:53,106 --> 06:44:55,106
adjourned. Thank you.