[2:07] >>chair, doug chaffee: good
[2:08] morning, everyone. Please find
[2:09] a seat, if you can. We have
[2:11] some presentations to make this
[2:11] morning before we start our
[2:14] board meeting. And so I'm doug
[2:16] chaffee, the chair of the board,
[2:18] and also fourth district
[2:20] supervisor. The first item
[2:23] we're going to bring is "elder
[2:26] abuse awareness" day. It's
[2:28] actually passed, but we look at
[2:29] that every dave the year anyway.
[2:32] I'd like to thank supervisor
[2:32] nguyen for joining me and
[2:34] bringing this item forward. So
[2:36] thank you, supervisor nguyen.
[2:40] Sadly, every year we recognize
[2:42] elder abuse day to bring
[2:44] awareness to the exploitation,
[2:45] neglect and abuse many of our
[2:47] seniors experience and try to
[2:50] offer hope to the victims. In
[2:52] orange county, adults 65 and
[2:55] older account for over 24% of
[2:57] our population, and this
[3:01] population is continuing to grow
[3:05] almost expotentially. So 10% of
[3:08] adults say 65 and older
[3:11] experience some form of abuse
[3:12] within any given year. That's
[3:14] an awful statistic. Elder abuse
[3:18] takes many forms. Can be
[3:19] physical, psychological, sexual,
[3:21] financial exploitation, neglect
[3:24] or sometimes even abandonment.
[3:27] In 2025 alone, the county of
[3:28] orange social services agency
[3:30] adult protective services
[3:32] program received over 22,000
[3:34] reports regarding abuse and
[3:36] neglect. Now, the county of
[3:37] orange, including the social
[3:39] service agency, and we have many
[3:42] agencies involved in this
[3:43] program, our health agency, our
[3:45] office on aging, public
[3:46] gardenia, district attorney, and
[3:48] orange county community partners
[3:49] are committed to helping seniors
[3:51] live longer, healthier, and
[3:55] safer lives.. To receive this
[3:57] resolution, I'd like to invite
[3:58] the following people to come up,
[4:01] please. Gale aroux hoe, the
[4:02] district director of the social
[4:04] service agency, claudia harris,
[4:06] director of the office of aging.
[4:08] The county offers programs that
[4:11] offer support for families,
[4:14] caregivers, address issues of
[4:15] exploitation, neglect, and abuse
[4:17] of elders. We strongly
[4:18] encourage every resident in
[4:21] orange county to report
[4:22] suspected abuse of an elderly
[4:24] person. So thank you to all the
[4:27] communities who have provided
[4:28] support and working lang side
[4:31] our community every day. So if
[4:34] you are a victim of elder abuse
[4:36] or know someone in need of
[4:38] support, please call the adult
[4:40] protective services hotline,
[4:49] which is 800-451-5155. Now
[4:51] before gale speaks, I'd like to
[4:53] invite supervisor nguyen and the
[4:54] rest of the board to give any
[4:55] remarks about the resolution
[4:57] we're about to present. Thank
[5:02] you.
[5:03] >>janet nguyen: thank you,
[5:04] MR. CHAIRMAN, and thank you for
[5:06] the opportunity to co-author
[5:10] with you on this important
[5:12] awareness. A time dedicated to
[5:13] protecting some of the most
[5:15] important individuals of our
[5:17] community, our seniors. Every
[5:19] one of us has someone we cherish
[5:22] who is older, a parent, a
[5:25] grandparent, a neighbor, a
[5:26] mentor or a friend. These are
[5:27] the people who help build our
[5:29] communities, raise families,
[5:30] serve our country, started
[5:32] businesses and passed down the
[5:33] values that guide us today.
[5:35] They deserve our gratitude.
[5:37] They deserve our respect, and
[5:40] most important, they deserve to
[5:43] live with dignity and safely.
[5:44] Unfortunately, elder abuse is
[5:45] more common than many people
[5:48] realize. It can take many
[5:49] forms, physical abuse, emotional
[5:51] abuse, neglect, financial
[5:55] exploitation or even isolation.
[5:56] Sometimes the signs are obvious.
[5:59] More importantly they are
[6:00] hidden behind closed doors --
[6:03] more often, they are hidden
[6:04] behind closed doors, unnoticed
[6:06] by the people who care. Many
[6:08] victims are afraid to speak up.
[6:10] Some feel embarrassed. Others
[6:12] worry about losing their
[6:14] independence or burdening their
[6:15] loved ones. That is why
[6:16] awareness matters. We all have
[6:19] a role to play in protecting our
[6:20] older adults. A simple phone
[6:22] call, a visit or checking in on
[6:23] a neighbor can make a big
[6:26] difference. I saw this during
[6:29] the incident in garden grove.
[6:31] There is an area in our
[6:33] community -- the neighborhood
[6:35] was all elderly seniors. And
[6:36] the neighbors came together,
[6:38] knew those seniors who live in
[6:41] those homes by themselves, went
[6:42] to their homes and helped them
[6:44] get out of the area. And so
[6:46] that's what we want to do, is
[6:48] making sure that we know who our
[6:49] neighbors are, making sure that
[6:51] we are able to assist when
[6:54] needed. Paying attention to
[6:55] changes in behavior, unexplained
[6:57] financial problems or even signs
[6:58] of neglect can help identify
[7:00] someone who MAY need assistance.
[7:02] In orange county we are very
[7:03] fortunate to have dedicated
[7:05] professional caregivers,
[7:07] advocates, law enforcement
[7:10] officers, community
[7:11] organizations and work every day
[7:13] to support seniors and
[7:15] investigate reports abuse. I
[7:16] appreciate our district attorney
[7:18] and his office for continuing to
[7:20] making sure that this is a
[7:22] priority for the department.
[7:24] Their work helps ensure that
[7:25] vulnerable adults have someone
[7:27] looking out for them when they
[7:29] need it most. As a community,
[7:31] we must continue to promote
[7:33] education, encourage reporting
[7:35] and provide resources that help
[7:36] seniors remain safe and
[7:38] connected and independent. Let
[7:40] us recommit ourselves to
[7:41] creating a community where older
[7:43] adults are valued, protected and
[7:44] empowered to live their lives
[7:45] free from abuse and
[7:54] exploitation. Thank you.
[7:55] >>v. Chair, katrina foley, good
[7:58] morning, everyone. I'm katrina
[8:01] foley representing the fabulous
[8:03] fifth district. This year's
[8:05] elder abuse awareness theme is
[8:06] beyond awareness. It cause us
[8:08] to pay attention to our most
[8:10] vulnerable and then act. Don't
[8:12] just notice, but act. Orange
[8:14] county is home to more than
[8:17] 690,000 seniors representing 17%
[8:18] of the total residents here in
[8:20] orange county, and that number
[8:21] is just growing and growing. We
[8:24] know from our master plan for
[8:25] aging that we are an aging
[8:27] community. So I say to all of
[8:30] the young people in the audience
[8:31] today, please stay here, make
[8:32] orange county your home. We
[8:37] need you. Within the county, 1
[8:39] in 10 older individuals fall
[8:40] victim to elder abuse annually
[8:43] . In 2025 the county of orange
[8:45] social service agency's adult
[8:47] protective services received
[8:50] 5,244 reports for abuse and
[8:52] neglect just in district 5. So
[8:54] that's more than 5,000 older
[8:57] adults who are being mistreated
[9:00] in district 5. Nearly -- in
[9:02] nearly half of these reported
[9:03] cases, the abuser is a family
[9:04] member. I personally had a
[9:06] family member who was being
[9:09] abused by their stepdaughters,
[9:13] and it was so bad that when her
[9:15] husband died, the stepdaughters
[9:18] kicked the elderly woman out her
[9:22] home. Now, really important, if
[9:22] you're an older adult, call the
[9:25] police. All of our police these
[9:27] days wear body cams. So it was
[9:31] because of the body cam that was
[9:33] preserved long past the
[9:36] husband's life that this woman
[9:38] got justice. So, remember of
[9:40] course, people are here to help
[9:43] you. If it's you who's being
[9:44] abused, don't be afraid to call.
[9:46] If you witness someone being
[9:47] abused or neglected, if it's
[9:50] your neighbor, reach out, knock
[9:52] on their door, because they're
[9:55] probably too ashaped to ask for
[9:57] help, but they need it. Also,
[10:01] as a reminder, our adult
[10:03] protective services 24-hour
[10:07] hotline is 1-800-451-5155.
[10:08] Beyond awareness. Be aware and
[10:17] then act. Thank you. Probably
[10:18] too ashamed to ask for
[10:24] >>speaker: good morning. On
[10:25] behalf of the county of orange
[10:27] social services agency's office
[10:29] on aging and fellow and county
[10:31] and communities in the service
[10:32] of elder abuse prevention, thank
[10:34] you for recognizing world elder
[10:35] abuse awareness day and for your
[10:37] continued support ofests to
[10:39] protect older and dependent
[10:41] adults in orange county elder
[10:43] abuse remains a significant
[10:45] concern in our community. Last
[10:46] year adult protective services
[10:48] received more than 22,000
[10:51] reports involving financial
[10:52] exploitation, psychological
[10:54] abuse, caregiver neglect,
[10:57] physical abuse, isolation and
[10:58] self-neglect. These situations
[10:59] threaten the well-being and
[11:03] safety of those who are often
[11:06] least able to advocate for
[11:08] themselves. Our aps social
[11:10] workers respond to these reports
[11:12] every day at social service
[11:14] agency, ensuring the vulnerable
[11:15] adults receive the support and
[11:16] intervention they need. Their
[11:17] work is strengthened by our
[11:19] office on aging which
[11:21] administers the long-term care
[11:23] some budsman and elder abuse
[11:25] prevention program as well as
[11:26] key services such as housing,
[11:29] relocation assistance,
[11:29] transportation, health and
[11:30] in-home care and legal and
[11:31] financial resources. Through
[11:33] these partnerships we are able
[11:35] to meet the diverse needs of our
[11:37] older adults throughout county.
[11:38] Community awareness also plays a
[11:41] critical role. The signs of
[11:42] abuse are not always visible,
[11:45] and sometimes a simple check-in
[11:46] with an older neighbor, friend,
[11:48] or loved one can help reduce
[11:49] isolation and open the door for
[11:51] someone to share their concerns.
[11:53] If you suspect abuse or
[11:55] neglect, contact our 24-hour aps
[12:01] hotline at eye hundred-451-5155.
[12:02] And for those seeking
[12:03] additional support or services,
[12:07] the office on aging's
[12:07] information and assistance call
[12:11] center is available at
[12:12] 714-480-6450. Thank you for
[12:14] your recognition today and for
[12:15] your continued commitment to the
[12:17] well-being and dignity of older
[12:26] adults in orange county.
[13:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: qons
[13:43] again, I'm doug chaffee, chair
[13:43] of the board. Today we
[13:46] recognize JUNE as gun violence
[13:46] awareness month in orange
[13:49] county. Every year we join in
[13:51] communities across the country
[13:53] to spread awareness about gun
[13:53] violence and honor those who
[13:56] lost their lives because of it.
[13:58] Tragically on an average 130
[13:59] people in the united states are
[14:04] killed by guns each days and
[14:06] over 200 more are shot and
[14:09] wounded. So each of these
[14:10] numbers represents a story of
[14:15] profound loss and devastation.
[14:16] Their lives lost, families
[14:18] shattered and communities
[14:20] scarred by gun violence even
[14:23] here in orange county. Somewhat
[14:25] of a response to that, I began a
[14:32] gun buy-back program in 2022.
[14:34] And it's sponsored by seven
[14:35] police departments who joined in
[14:37] staffing the event. The event
[14:40] also included giving out what we
[14:41] call free gun locks. The idea
[14:42] is not to say you scrbt a
[14:44] weapon, but if you don't want
[14:46] one, we have a way of disposing
[14:48] of it, we give you a gift card
[14:50] in return. And if you have
[14:52] other weapons, please keep them
[14:54] safe. For that reason, we gave
[14:56] out three gun locks. So they
[14:57] had a second event in the city
[15:00] of anaheim that supervisor
[15:03] sarmiento joined in, and a third
[15:04] one with the police department
[15:07] in garden grove, now joined by
[15:09] supervisor nguyen. All together
[15:12] we were able to get 1,055
[15:14] firearms, including 76 assault
[15:18] weapons often street. So this
[15:21] type of thing is -- safety is
[15:24] very important. So we also
[15:25] started a free gun lock program.
[15:38] You can go online with my --
[15:40] and you'll see how to get a free
[15:42] gun lock if you're an orange
[15:43] county resident. It's available
[15:45] to all orange county residents.
[15:47] And there's also a tutorial on
[15:52] how to use the gun locks. So
[15:54] different kinds of weapons need
[15:55] different ways of inserting them
[15:58] and using them. So I'd like to
[16:01] invite deputy health officer
[16:04] DR. Shiek to the dais to join
[16:07] us. He has cared for victims of
[16:08] firearm violence for over two
[16:10] decades and currently serves as
[16:13] orange county's interim ems
[16:15] medical director, deputy health
[16:20] officer and practicing trauma
[16:24] and critical care surgeon.
[16:26] Throughout her career, she has
[16:27] cared for patients across the
[16:30] entire continuum from the trauma
[16:33] bay to the operating courtroom
[16:38] and ICUs 'recovery victims.
[16:41] We're guided that the best way
[16:43] to treat traumatic injury is to
[16:44] prevent it from happening in the
[16:47] first place. So her work
[16:48] focuses on life-saving care and
[16:51] also injury prevention, firearm
[16:54] storage and energy prevention.
[16:55] The gun lock component program
[16:56] is transitioning to the orange
[16:58] county health care agency where
[17:01] we integrate it into a broader
[17:02] framework of community health
[17:04] and entry prevention services.
[17:07] Together we can raise awareness
[17:09] of inherent barriers of firearm
[17:10] ownership and promoting
[17:11] responsible gun safety
[17:14] practices. So we encourage
[17:14] every resident of orange county
[17:16] to have a conversation with
[17:17] their loved ones, discuss
[17:20] important topics like gun
[17:21] violence, gun safety and how to
[17:23] identify solutions to prevent
[17:27] gun violence. In JUNE we honor
[17:29] all those impacted by gun
[17:30] violence as well, those whose
[17:36] lives were taken because of it.
[17:39] Part of the month -- because
[17:41] hunters wear orange when they're
[17:42] hunting so they're
[17:42] distinguishable from other
[17:44] things in the forest, orange is
[17:49] the color that we use to honor
[17:52] the gun violence month. So we
[17:54] are wearing orange -- at least,
[17:56] I've got part orange here on my
[17:57] tie. And with that, I'd like to
[17:59] invite our other supervisor to
[18:01] join us.
[18:03] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[18:05] you. Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN.
[18:07] Katrina foley, county supervisor
[18:09] representing the fabulous fifth
[18:11] district. I'd like to at this
[18:13] time invite my guests from moms
[18:14] demand action to come and join
[18:18] us here. Gun violence impacts
[18:19] us all. I want to thank the
[18:22] CHAIRMAN For his advocacy and
[18:25] his work to end gun violence
[18:26] here in orange county. Today my
[18:30] team and I wear orange. We wear
[18:32] orange to honor the survivors of
[18:34] gun violence, raise awareness
[18:37] and demand change. No one in
[18:40] orange county should fear going
[18:42] to school, a place of worship or
[18:45] work or attending community
[18:46] events. According to the orange
[18:48] county sheriff's department,
[18:51] there were 135 gun-related
[18:55] deaths in orange county in 2025.
[19:00] 29 of those were in district 5.
[19:02] 93 of the gun-related deaths
[19:06] were self-inflicted wounds. 25
[19:11] in district 5. No dispute
[19:13] should end in a life stolen. No
[19:16] bad day should end with gun
[19:17] violence. At county of orange
[19:20] we continue our work increasing
[19:22] prevention tactics, promoting
[19:26] safe and responsible firearm
[19:29] practices, the gun lock program
[19:30] is a strong program here at the
[19:32] county of orange, and we think
[19:37] it's working. These locks
[19:39] protect children. They keep
[19:41] families safe, and they keep
[19:43] individuals safe. We appreciate
[19:45] groups like moms demand action,
[19:47] who I have been partnering with
[19:52] since 2019. I looked it up. --
[19:54] on advocacy for gun safety
[19:56] legislation while also providing
[19:58] essential resources for gun
[19:59] violence victims and their
[20:01] survivors. I'd like to
[20:04] introduce oliana andersen from
[20:07] moms demand action orange county
[20:08] and -- are you going to say a
[20:21] few words? Thank you.
[20:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: sorry. I
[20:28] forgot to introduce lieutenant
[20:32] haddad from the brea police
[20:33] department. When you get a gun
[20:34] lock package, you also get a
[20:36] little video featuring the
[20:38] lieutenant demonstrating how to
[20:41] insert the gun lock in different
[20:43] kinds of weapons. So he'll be
[20:46] one of our speakers, as well.
[20:47] >>speaker: good morning,
[20:48] everyone. Thank you, supervisor
[20:50] chaffee, to the board of
[20:51] supervisors, for taking a moment
[20:52] to recognize gun violence
[20:53] awareness month. As the
[20:55] speakers before me has said, gun
[20:56] violence is truly a public
[20:58] health issue and one that
[21:00] impacts our community, not just
[21:01] in one moment, but for a
[21:03] lifetime. It is for that reason
[21:05] and as a practicing trauma and
[21:07] critical care surgeon in my own
[21:08] two decades of experience of
[21:11] taking care of gun violence
[21:12] injury patients as well as their
[21:13] families in the communities that
[21:15] support them that it becomes
[21:16] incredibly imperative that we
[21:18] begin to recognize, support all
[21:20] of those individuals, the
[21:22] families as well as the programs
[21:23] that are taking care of those
[21:24] that are injured by gun
[21:26] violence. As supervisor chaffee
[21:28] said, one of the lessons that I
[21:31] have learned as a longstanding
[21:34] trauma critical care surgeon
[21:36] deputy health officer and your
[21:37] ems interim medical director is
[21:39] the best way to treat trauma is
[21:42] to actually prevent it from
[21:43] happening in the first place,
[21:44] with that, I hope we spend the
[21:47] month in awareness, education,
[21:49] and as we move forward
[21:51] prevention as well. Thank you
[21:55] >>speaker: my name is lieutenant
[21:57] haddad with the brea police
[21:58] department. Thank you for
[22:00] allowing me the opportunity to
[22:02] speak today. One of the most
[22:04] frustrating instances of gun
[22:05] injuries are accidental
[22:06] injuries, including children.
[22:08] So if you do have a firearm and
[22:10] don't have a safe to lock it in,
[22:11] especially if you have children
[22:13] or children that visit, please
[22:15] use a gun lock. It's a
[22:15] completely avoidable tragedy.
[22:20] So thank you.
[22:22] >>speaker: hello, my name is
[22:23] elaina andersen, and I'm a
[22:24] founding member of the orange
[22:26] county chapter of moms demand
[22:28] action for gun sense in america
[22:29] and currently serve as colead
[22:32] for the california chapter. The
[22:34] day after the shooting at sandy
[22:39] hook elementary school schools
[22:42] and 20 first-graders and six
[22:43] educators were murdered in
[22:46] DECEMBER of 2012, shannon watts
[22:47] started a football group with
[22:49] the message that all americans
[22:50] can and should do more to reduce
[22:52] gun violence. The online
[22:53] conversation turned into moms
[22:56] demand action, a non-partisan
[22:57] grassroots movement of over 11
[23:00] million supporters of students,
[23:01] moms, dads, families, concerned
[23:02] citizens and survivors working
[23:04] together with our partners in
[23:05] the gun violence prevention
[23:08] movement to end this uniquely
[23:09] american crisis. Our first ever
[23:12] event in orange county was in
[23:13] april 2013. I joined because I
[23:15] was a high school teacher who
[23:16] always had a lesson plan and an
[23:18] escape plan for my students.
[23:20] Additionally, the previous year
[23:22] there had been a mass shooting
[23:25] at salon mayor tawj in my seal
[23:27] beach neighborhood. Luckily my
[23:29] then 1-year-old daughter and I
[23:31] hadn't walked past the salon to
[23:31] the park that day because the
[23:33] shooter was caught along our
[23:35] route about a dozen doors from
[23:38] our house. In the 13 years as a
[23:39] moms demand action volunteer,
[23:41] we've learned so much about ways
[23:42] to prevent gun violence. We
[23:44] started at the secure storage
[23:46] program called be smart because
[23:50] gun secure storage save kids'
[23:51] lives. I'm shy, and it was
[23:52] scary, but with guns being the
[23:53] number one killer of children
[23:56] and teens nationwide, I decided
[23:58] I'd rather have an awkward
[23:59] conversation before my kid went
[24:01] to someone's house and ask
[24:03] whether they had guns in their
[24:04] home rather than a tragic
[24:05] conversation later if somebody
[24:07] found a gun and someone were
[24:09] unintentionally shot and killed
[24:11] or injured. My suggestion to
[24:12] you is this conversation. I'd
[24:13] say, before my daughter comes
[24:14] over to visit, I want you to
[24:16] know that your child is invited
[24:18] to our home, as well. Just to
[24:19] you know, with very a pool, and
[24:22] it's fenced. We have a dog, but
[24:23] she's friendly, and we can put
[24:25] her in another room if you're
[24:27] allergic. We don't have any
[24:29] food allergies and we don't have
[24:31] any firearms. How about you?
[24:33] No one has ever got upset about
[24:35] the question. Most were impress
[24:37] asked started asking too. If
[24:38] they ever said yes we have a
[24:41] gun, I'd ask how it's stored,
[24:43] and if they say anything other
[24:44] than it's locked and unloaded
[24:46] with the ammo locked separately,
[24:48] I invite them to come to our
[24:51] house instead. 1/3 of youth
[24:54] suicides and unintentional
[24:55] deaths to be prevented by
[24:57] securing guns. I'm thankful
[25:00] that the orange county board
[25:01] supervisors help supply free gun
[25:03] locks in the community.
[25:04] Unfortunately, I've met too many
[25:06] people who have been shot and
[25:08] survived or had loved ones taken
[25:10] I go gun violence. Moms demand
[25:12] action offers the every town
[25:14] survivor network welcoming
[25:16] anyone who has personally
[25:16] experienced gun violence,
[25:17] whether you have witnessed an
[25:20] act of gun violence, been
[25:20] threatened or wounded with a gun
[25:22] or had someone you know or cared
[25:26] about wound -- or killed, the
[25:27] survivor network offers
[25:28] resources and also opportunities
[25:30] for survivors to turn their pain
[25:31] into power by sharing their
[25:33] stories. I'm proud of the work
[25:34] that we do with moms demand
[25:36] action. We support community
[25:37] violence intervention and
[25:38] prevention organizations. Those
[25:40] are the real heroes. Working to
[25:42] stop gun violence before it
[25:44] happens and worth the investment
[25:46] of communities and local, state,
[25:49] and federal government. We also
[25:51] have an active students demand
[25:53] group and mayors against gun
[25:54] violence. Together we work with
[25:55] our communities and business
[25:57] leaders to encourage a culture
[25:58] of responsible gun ownership
[25:59] because we know that gun
[26:01] violence is preventable, and
[26:02] we're committed to doing what it
[26:04] takes to keep families safe.
[26:06] Thank you again to the board of
[26:08] orange -- the orange county
[26:09] board of supervisors for
[26:11] recognize gun violence awareness
[26:13] month and to vice-chair
[26:15] supervisor katrina foley and
[26:16] CHAIRMAN Chaffee for inviting us
[26:17] to participate and wear orange.
[26:18] If you're interested in learning
[26:20] more about moms demand action or
[26:22] students demand action text word
[26:27] "ready" or the word "students"
[26:29] to 64433.
[26:33] Thank you.
[27:39] >>chair, doug chaffee: we have
[27:40] one more presentation to naik
[27:43] make. That is the usa 250th
[27:46] anniversary. And this is a
[27:47] presentation to be led by
[27:49] supervisor wagner and nguyen.
[27:52] And so I'll simply say, as we
[27:54] lead up to the 250th
[27:55] anniversary, the signing of the
[27:57] declaration of independence,
[27:59] it's important for a lot of us
[28:01] to recommit ourselves to
[28:02] upholding the founding
[28:03] principles in the nation, which
[28:05] is justice, liberty, and
[28:08] equality for all. With that,
[28:12] either of you guys want to
[28:12] lead?
[28:14] >>don wagner: good morning. I'm
[28:18] don wagner from the thriving
[28:21] third.. And as I'm sure most
[28:22] of you know, next saturday, the
[28:25] 4th, marks a monumental
[28:27] occasion, the 250th
[28:28] anniversary of the founding of
[28:31] the united states. We're joined
[28:33] today by joelle len chapman,
[28:36] come on up, please, director of
[28:38] concordia university irvine's
[28:39] center for civics education and
[28:46] co-chair of usa 250 oc. On that
[28:51] day, JULY 4th, 1776, 250 years
[28:53] ago, the 56 delegates to the
[28:53] second continental congress
[28:55] signed the declaration of
[28:57] independence, proclaiming that
[28:59] the 13 colonies were free and
[29:01] independent states and were no
[29:03] longer a part of the british
[29:05] empire. What many americans MAY
[29:08] not know is that the declaration
[29:11] was signed over a year into the
[29:17] american revolutionary war with
[29:18] the battle of lexington and
[29:20] concord and that legendary shot
[29:21] heard around the world taking
[29:23] place over a year earlier, APRIL
[29:30] of 1775. And it took eight
[29:40] years of bloody conflict.. We
[29:42] had to do it all over again in
[29:44] 1812. It stuck that time. None
[29:47] of the founding fathers who ever
[29:49] have imagined in that iconic
[29:51] moment, 250 years ago, the
[29:52] technological, the military, the
[29:57] medical, the cultural and
[30:01] industrial global power those 13
[30:02] colonies bound together as the
[30:03] united states of america would
[30:05] become. Through their
[30:07] conviction, their tenacity and
[30:09] dedication to establishing a
[30:12] republic based on the rule of
[30:14] law, based on the cornerstone
[30:17] idea that all of us are created
[30:21] free and equal, these men
[30:23] ushered into existence the
[30:26] greatest nation history has
[30:28] seen. And it is important that
[30:33] we do events like this 250th
[30:34] celebration because it is by
[30:36] doing this, it is by going back
[30:40] and remembering the principles
[30:41] upon which this nation was
[30:42] founded, by teaching our
[30:44] children those principles, we
[30:49] can make sure that they long
[30:53] endure. It is by these sorts of
[30:55] recollections, reminding our
[30:56] children why we are special, how
[30:59] we are special, that we develop
[31:02] the future generation of
[31:03] leaders, the future generation
[31:08] of men and women like those
[31:09] colonists 250 years ago who
[31:12] rallied to the flag and fired
[31:13] that shot heard around the world
[31:15] and who will continue to stand
[31:20] for that flag behind us as this
[31:24] nation continues, in lincoln's
[31:26] words, to sew endure. If any of
[31:28] my colleagues have anything to
[31:31] say, know would be the time.
[31:34] Supervisor nguyen.
[31:35] >>janet nguyen: thank you.
[31:36] Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN, for
[31:38] allowing us to put this on the
[31:40] agenda and I appreciate my
[31:42] colleague supervisor wagner for
[31:43] co-authoring, partnering with me
[31:45] on this. I'm excited to speak
[31:47] about this proclamation for
[31:49] america's 250th birthday. The
[31:53] federal government established a
[31:54] semiquince centennial commission
[31:56] back this 2016. So this has
[31:57] been in the planning stages for
[31:59] a while. In 2024 when I was in
[32:01] the state senate I realized that
[32:04] california had no commission to
[32:05] partner with the feds to create
[32:06] the biggest celebration ever.
[32:09] So I authored the bill. And
[32:13] with that -- those bills, with
[32:15] reable to get detention of the
[32:16] governor who has formed his --
[32:18] we were able to get the
[32:19] attention of the governor who
[32:21] has formed his own commission
[32:22] here in california. Now we're
[32:24] about a week away from america's
[32:25] birthday. For those of who grew
[32:27] up in america and learned about
[32:29] george washington, thomas
[32:30] jefferson, james madison, ben
[32:32] franklin and our other great
[32:34] founding fathers you have a
[32:36] gift. Millions of people around
[32:37] the world would love to be
[32:40] americans. Just look at the
[32:42] social poses of people visiting
[32:44] here from other countries during
[32:47] the world cup. They can't get
[32:48] enough of america. When I came
[32:51] here as a child I was late
[32:53] getting up to speed on our
[32:54] history, but I read and learned
[32:57] all that I could. At one point
[32:59] i knew every U.S. PRESIDENT In
[33:02] order and even did a perfect
[33:04] score on my U.S. History exam.
[33:08] I remember that all these years
[33:10] later because I love this
[33:11] country. It was fascinating to
[33:13] learn about the revolutionary
[33:17] war and the brave patriots who
[33:18] fought to free from british
[33:20] rule. It wasn't obvious they
[33:21] could win. They were
[33:22] out-numbered, didn't have any
[33:25] money, and their army wasn't
[33:26] highly trained. Many of
[33:28] washington's soldiers had wags
[33:30] for shoes and left blood in the
[33:32] snow as they walked. Against
[33:35] all odds, they won. This
[33:36] country is the greatest country
[33:42] in the world. Only this country
[33:47] can an immigrant like myself, a
[33:49] refugee, who fleed communism, is
[33:53] able to come to this country and
[33:56] be able to not only stand here
[33:56] buffer as a county supervisor
[33:58] the second time, but also to
[34:00] walk into the capitol of the
[34:04] state, the largest state of this
[34:06] nation, to be a state senator.
[34:07] Only this country would allow
[34:10] someone like me to have that
[34:13] opportunity. So freedom and
[34:15] democracy is in my blood, but
[34:17] it's because I've been given
[34:18] that opportunity and many, many
[34:20] other immigrants have been given
[34:23] that opportunity. And that's
[34:28] why celebrating the semiquantity
[34:30] centennial, the 250th birthday
[34:33] of america, so exciting, I would
[34:36] like to thank usa 250oc and all
[34:37] of their hard-working volunteers
[34:39] who have been steadily messaging
[34:42] and holding events to celebrate
[34:43] america's birthday. In fact,
[34:48] they would be hosting a free
[34:49] usa 250 concert on JUNE 30th
[34:52] at the richard nixon's library.
[34:54] Concordia university will be
[34:55] celebrating the 99th birthday
[34:57] of roger williams, an american
[34:59] musical legend. City of
[35:02] huntington beach will be hosting
[35:03] the largest 4th of JULY parade
[35:05] west of the mississippi. And so
[35:08] many other cities around -- I
[35:12] know also -- want to give a
[35:14] shout-out here to the mayor from
[35:19] santa ana, mayor valerie mez gu
[35:21] ras here, santa ana itself will
[35:23] also be celebrating. There's so
[35:24] many celebration across our
[35:26] counties and it's so exciting to
[35:27] see all of us coming together to
[35:28] celebrate the biggest birthday
[35:31] of america. I hope you can all
[35:32] dispeanld also join me as I
[35:34] mentioned in huntington beach
[35:36] with all of the parades and the
[35:37] fireworks all across our county.
[35:46] Thank you.
[35:48] >>speaker: well, thank all of
[35:53] you for this honor. Usa 250 oc
[35:54] is about everybody in orange
[35:56] county. Not about a group of
[35:58] people who got together about a
[35:59] year ago -- and in fact, we were
[36:00] before this board, talking about
[36:06] just having created usa 250 oc,
[36:06] and I think we're proud of one
[36:08] thing the most. It's that all
[36:10] five members of the board of
[36:13] supervisors have come on to this
[36:15] project as honorary co-chairs.
[36:16] That's very important to us
[36:18] because they represent all of
[36:21] you. When we started this, some
[36:22] people started saying, what are
[36:25] you planning for JULY 4th? We
[36:27] said nothing because that will
[36:29] take care of itself. It always
[36:31] does, every city, every
[36:32] community, every business, every
[36:34] family a, they always do
[36:35] something great on JULY 4th.
[36:38] So we're not planning something
[36:40] on JULY 4th. Our goal was in
[36:43] the months leading up to
[36:45] JULY 4th and the months after
[36:46] is to encourage people to engage
[36:50] in our history, in our founding
[36:52] principles, in other words civic
[36:53] literacy, and also civility,
[36:55] where we can stop shouting at
[36:57] each other and start talking to
[36:58] each other, and even more
[37:00] important, listening to each
[37:01] other and learning from each
[37:03] other. So that's been our goal
[37:04] from the beginning, and to
[37:07] partner with others. We've
[37:08] partnered with the orange county
[37:10] business council, arts orange
[37:13] county, the association of
[37:14] california cities, orange
[37:17] county. Orange county forum,
[37:18] the pacific symphony, concordia
[37:20] university. We've partnered
[37:22] with so many organizations to do
[37:24] one simple thing, say in the
[37:26] normal covers your business,
[37:28] whatever you usually do, whether
[37:29] it's a concert or a panel
[37:31] discussion or speeches, whatever
[37:32] you do, make at least one of
[37:35] your programs during this year
[37:38] focus on america 250 on this
[37:40] 250th anniversary. And so
[37:42] many things have happened. It's
[37:44] just been glorious to
[37:46] participate in these things with
[37:48] so many different thoughts and
[37:49] ideas, and people coming from
[37:51] different perspectives. One of
[37:53] the things that we did early on
[37:56] was to create a website. And I
[37:57] encourage you to go to it. It's
[38:01] real simple, usa 250/oc.Com.
[38:03] There are dozens and dozens and
[38:07] dozens of resources, a lot of
[38:09] creative, new material. But
[38:11] there is so much online already
[38:12] that people just don't know
[38:14] about. So I refer you to those
[38:16] things so that you can learn
[38:20] more about our history in short
[38:21] order without having to look it
[38:23] up for yourself. Also that
[38:24] website is in five languages,
[38:26] which makes us, again, very
[38:28] proud because we try to
[38:30] represent the great diversity of
[38:32] orange county. I would also
[38:34] like to thank the staff of all
[38:37] five of the supervisor's office.
[38:41] Whenever I call them, need
[38:41] something, want to share
[38:41] something, they're there,
[38:43] they're very helpful, and the
[38:44] supervisors should be very proud
[38:46] of their staff, and you should,
[38:47] as well. Let me just mention a
[38:49] couple of things about history.
[38:53] From the very beginning, usa
[38:56] 250 oc has taken on as our
[38:59] motto, so to speak, very simple
[39:00] statement. America is the
[39:03] perfect idea. The united states
[39:06] of america is a work in
[39:07] progress. Because what the
[39:09] founders gave us in that
[39:11] declaration of independence, the
[39:13] world had never seen before. It
[39:15] wasn't -- it was revolutionary.
[39:17] It was radical. People just
[39:18] could not believe that we were
[39:20] saying everyone is created
[39:22] equal. We have inalienable
[39:24] rights, every one of us, and
[39:26] that government is based on the
[39:28] consent of the governed. That
[39:30] was radical. And so as we look
[39:33] through history, we all think
[39:36] slavely was ended at end of the
[39:39] civil war. No, no, no. Slavery
[39:41] was ended in massachusetts in
[39:43] 1780 right in the middle of the
[39:46] revolutionary war by a female,
[39:47] black slave who read the
[39:49] declaration of independence, she
[39:51] read the brand-new constitution
[39:53] of massachusetts, which said all
[39:56] men are born free and equal, and
[39:57] she said, then how come I'm not?
[40:00] She had the audacity, the
[40:02] bravery to hire an attorney.
[40:04] They took it to court, and the
[40:07] jury of all white men found in
[40:09] her favor, and a year later,
[40:11] there were a couple other
[40:13] cases -- got the massachusetts
[40:14] supreme court, and the supreme
[40:16] court of massachusetts said
[40:19] slavery is incompatible with the
[40:23] constitution of massachusetts;
[40:24] therefore, slavery in
[40:25] massachusetts is no longer
[40:26] valid.
[40:28] How did that woman get the
[40:29] courage to do that? But she
[40:31] did. And there are so many
[40:33] stories like this through
[40:34] american history. That's why
[40:37] when you look at the
[40:39] abolitionist movement, when you
[40:42] look at sufficient from a gist
[40:43] movement, rights for women, when
[40:45] you look at the civil rights
[40:46] movement, in the 1960s, every
[40:48] one of those movements put as
[40:49] their foundation stone the
[40:55] declaration of independence.
[40:56] That's why it's important. And
[40:58] if you haven't read it, read it.
[40:59] It'll take you 10 minutes,
[41:01] probably less than that. And
[41:02] just look at those paragraphs
[41:03] about freedom. And I'd like to
[41:05] close with this, there are so
[41:06] many great statements about the
[41:08] declaration, but my favorite
[41:09] happened to occur 100 years ago
[41:12] on the 150th anniversary of
[41:14] the declaration of independence.
[41:16] We had a PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT
[41:18] Calvin coolidge, he was known as
[41:20] silent cal, but when he spoke,
[41:22] it meant something. And he gave
[41:26] a speech on JULY 4th of 1926,
[41:28] and said something that
[41:30] resonates today. He said 100
[41:32] years ago, people think that the
[41:34] declaration is old-fashioned.
[41:36] We need new ideas, we need
[41:38] something more modern. Well,
[41:41] today we say the same thing.
[41:43] 100 years later, well, we need
[41:44] something more modern that is up
[41:46] to date to meet our current
[41:48] challenges, but what he said
[41:51] after that is still valid today
[41:53] and will be for eternity. And
[41:54] I'd like to read it because I
[41:57] love the way he said it. He
[41:58] said, if all men are created
[42:01] equal, that is final. If they
[42:04] are endowed with inalienable
[42:07] rights, that is final. If
[42:09] governments derive their just
[42:10] powers from the consent of the
[42:13] governed, that is final.
[42:15] There's no advance, no progress
[42:17] can be made beyond these
[42:20] propositions. If anyone wishes
[42:23] to deny their truth, the only
[42:25] direction in which he can
[42:26] proceed historically is not
[42:29] forward, but backward, backward
[42:31] toward the time when there was
[42:34] no equality, no rights of the
[42:36] individual, no rule of the
[42:37] people. Those who wish to
[42:39] proceed in that direction cannot
[42:42] lay claim to progress. They are
[42:44] reactionary. If there is any
[42:46] failure in respect to any of
[42:48] these principles, it is because
[42:50] of the failure on the part of
[42:52] individuals. That's us -- to
[42:55] observe them. So, remember,
[42:57] we're equal. We have
[42:59] inalienable rights, and
[43:00] government, including the
[43:03] government sthiedged me, rest on
[43:05] our consent. So let's learn
[43:07] about this, let's talk to each
[43:09] other. Let's share these
[43:11] thoughts and work together to
[43:14] continue to form what the
[43:16] constitution said, a more
[43:17] perfect union. And I thank the
[43:19] supervisors for commemorating
[43:37] america 250.
[43:42] >>don wagner: if my history is
[43:45] right, the continental congress
[43:47] voted JULY 22nd. John adams
[43:48] even wrote to his wife. That
[43:50] will be the day that we all
[43:52] remember. Jefferson's draft was
[43:55] not ready JULY 2nd, nor is the
[43:55] proclamation we were going to
[44:00] give today. JULY 4th,
[44:02] jefferson was finally ready.
[44:05] That's the day we celebrate, and
[44:07] joelle, I promise a resolution
[44:09] from all of us is coming, but
[44:12] like jefferson, it's in the
[44:24] works.
[45:14] >>don wagner: if only
[45:15] jefferson's staff was that good,
[45:18] we might have celebrated
[45:18] JULY 22nd
[45:19] >>chair, doug chaffee: we need
[45:21] to be good to start our meeting,
[45:22] whether I happen in about 10
[45:23] minutes. Thank you all for
[45:24] being patient and working with
[45:38] us with these presentations.
[59:57] DR. Shaikh to the dais to join
[1:01:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: good
[1:01:14] morning, again. It's my
[1:01:18] pleasure to call our meeting
[1:01:20] today for the board of
[1:01:21] supervisors which technically is
[1:01:26] JUNE 23, 2026 to order. The
[1:01:27] meeting will begin today with
[1:01:29] the invocations offered by
[1:01:30] supervisor nguyen and the pledge
[1:01:33] of allegiance will follow led by
[1:01:35] verse chair foley. If you're
[1:01:45] able to stand, please do so.
[1:01:47] >>janet nguyen: please bow your
[1:01:49] head and join me, dear heavenly
[1:01:50] father, thank you for america
[1:01:53] and thank you for this year's
[1:01:55] semiquinn centennial
[1:01:56] celebration, 250 years ago our
[1:01:59] nation was formed declaring all
[1:02:01] people are created equal with
[1:02:03] certain GOD-given light it in
[1:02:05] cannot be taken away, among them
[1:02:06] life, liberty, and the pursuit
[1:02:08] of happiness. We are also
[1:02:09] reminded that government gets
[1:02:11] its power from the consent of
[1:02:13] the governed. Help us in the
[1:02:15] governance the budget we passed
[1:02:16] today was set forth for the path
[1:02:19] for our county for the year
[1:02:21] ahead, MAY we be wise with what
[1:02:24] we've been given and faithful to
[1:02:26] those it serves. In your name
[1:02:28] we pray. Amen
[1:02:28] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: good
[1:02:31] morning. At this point I'd like
[1:02:35] to invite celoni, who is a
[1:02:37] saddleback college student, who
[1:02:41] is pursuing a degree in biology
[1:02:44] and aspires to be a vocal
[1:02:46] performer and she will lead us
[1:02:48] in the national anthem and a
[1:02:51] pledge that will follow.
[1:03:14] [Singing the national anthem]
[1:04:16] [Applause]
[1:04:17] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[1:04:20] you. As we celebrate america
[1:04:23] 250 and many of our flag day
[1:04:24] presentations across the county,
[1:04:26] I ask that you all think about
[1:04:28] what does the flag mean to you,
[1:04:32] to me it's a symbol of
[1:04:34] opportunity, justice, equality
[1:04:37] and charity. Please say with
[1:04:45] me, I pledge allegiance...
[1:04:46] To the flag of the united states
[1:04:48] of america, and to the republic
[1:04:50] for which it stands. 81 nation,
[1:04:52] under GOD, indivisible, with
[1:04:55] liberty and justice for all.
[1:04:57] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:04:58] you, supervisor nguyen and
[1:05:05] vice-chair foley. There are a
[1:05:07] couple of reminders as to the
[1:05:08] conduct of the meeting. If I
[1:05:11] MAY explain some of those at
[1:05:20] this time...
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[1:05:36] this time to mute or vibrate and
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[1:05:42] A lives today's changes to
[1:05:45] today's agenda along with the
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[1:06:11] proceed to the agenda for this
[1:06:13] morning's meeting. This agenda
[1:06:15] contains a brief description of
[1:06:16] each item to be considered,
[1:06:18] except as otherwise provided by
[1:06:20] law, such as an emergency. No
[1:06:24] action maybe taken in an item
[1:06:26] not appearing on today's agenda.
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[1:06:28] sections. All matters on the
[1:06:30] consent calendar are approved by
[1:06:32] one mowing, a support member, a
[1:06:34] member of the public MAY request
[1:06:35] separate action on a specific
[1:06:36] item. If you wish to address
[1:06:39] the board, please complete a
[1:06:40] speaker request form and give it
[1:06:42] to the clerk next to the podium.
[1:06:45] And to ensure smooth conduct at
[1:06:46] meetings, speaker request forms
[1:06:48] must be received prior to the
[1:06:49] calling of the item such as
[1:06:52] scent calendar, the reading of
[1:06:54] the individual agenda items or
[1:06:56] at the beginning of public
[1:06:58] comments. Speakers MAY address
[1:06:59] the board on up to three
[1:07:01] occasions because a large number
[1:07:03] of speaker requests we will
[1:07:05] limit it to one minute per
[1:07:07] speaker today. When you're
[1:07:08] called to speak, please step up
[1:07:12] to the podium because you state
[1:07:13] your name and city of residence
[1:07:14] for the record. Please note the
[1:07:16] light on the podium. The green
[1:07:18] light means you have 1 minute.
[1:07:20] The light changes to red when
[1:07:22] your time has expired. We ask
[1:07:24] that you observe the time limit
[1:07:25] so that all who wish to speak
[1:07:28] will have an opportunity do so.
[1:07:31] Addressing the board, please
[1:07:31] address the board as a whole
[1:07:36] through the chair. We have some
[1:07:38] adjustments to the calendar.
[1:07:39] I've tried to go through some of
[1:07:40] this very long agenda and group
[1:07:43] some items so we can move
[1:07:44] expeditiously. We do have some
[1:07:47] unusual things happening today.
[1:07:49] Before we take up the consent
[1:07:50] calendar, which will be our
[1:07:54] first item, we received a
[1:07:54] special request for
[1:07:55] accommodation for public
[1:07:58] comments. And county counsel,
[1:08:01] would you explain that, too,
[1:08:01] please?
[1:08:02] >>leon page: thank you,
[1:08:04] MR. CHAIRMAN., so yes, under
[1:08:05] the brown act a legislative body
[1:08:08] such as the board of supervisors
[1:08:10] is required to have in place a
[1:08:11] prompt mechanism for resolving
[1:08:13] request for accommodations under
[1:08:15] the americans with disabilities
[1:08:17] act and a member of the public
[1:08:19] did identify -- I believe it's
[1:08:20] four individuals, who are
[1:08:22] seeking an accommodation today.
[1:08:23] So it's certainly my
[1:08:24] recommendation to the board that
[1:08:26] we resolve that matter quickly
[1:08:26] and allow those members of the
[1:08:29] public to have their 1 minute so
[1:08:30] they're not required to wait in
[1:08:31] the room all day
[1:08:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:08:34] you, counsel. After we hear
[1:08:37] from those speakers, I'll ask
[1:08:39] the clerk to identify any
[1:08:40] changes to the agenda and then
[1:08:41] any requests to the public to
[1:08:44] hear an item on the consent
[1:08:46] calendar separately. MADAM
[1:08:47] Clerk, will you please call
[1:08:48] speakers that requested
[1:08:50] accommodation at this time
[1:08:52] >>clerk, robin stieler: heidi
[1:08:54] zimmerman, michael deal, and be
[1:08:57] kevin williams, first three
[1:09:03] speakers.
[1:09:06] >>speaker: my name is heidi
[1:09:08] zimmerman. I'm PRESIDENT Of
[1:09:09] omus angel foundation.
[1:09:12] Unfortunately, we're currently
[1:09:15] in litigation against the county
[1:09:16] regarding the inhumane condition
[1:09:20] of the shelters. I'm here today
[1:09:23] because I'm begging for some
[1:09:26] answers for my friends who are
[1:09:27] disabled and being exited from
[1:09:30] their housing in the next week.
[1:09:32] I have got michael deal, who has
[1:09:33] a bullet in his head, who's
[1:09:36] prone to seizures and strokes
[1:09:38] being exited in a week. I also
[1:09:40] have kevin williams, who is
[1:09:41] legally blind and just suffered
[1:09:43] a hip fracture. I also have
[1:09:45] michael laster here, too. So
[1:09:48] GOD bless you for giving us
[1:09:49] special accommodations. I'm
[1:09:51] begging you, please give me an
[1:09:54] answer besides calling 211 on
[1:09:55] what we can do with these folks
[1:09:57] who will be exited into the
[1:09:57] streets while everyone is
[1:09:59] celebrating 4th of JULY, I'm
[1:10:00] going to be worried what my
[1:10:02] blind friends are going to be
[1:10:03] doing in the streets
[1:10:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:10:05] you. MAY we have the next
[1:10:08] speaker, please.
[1:10:10] >>speaker: my name is michael
[1:10:12] dale. I would like to request
[1:10:13] at least an hour of time from
[1:10:17] one of y'all board members and
[1:10:20] maybe the attorney. I have an
[1:10:22] idea for a program that could
[1:10:24] actually end homelessness
[1:10:27] entirely. This will require the
[1:10:28] attorney and board members to
[1:10:30] meet with me. Due to my medical
[1:10:32] condition, the lighting from
[1:10:33] the -- the fluoresce enter
[1:10:35] lighting will make me ill, so
[1:10:38] I'm trying to make as quickly as
[1:10:40] possible. This is a topic
[1:10:42] that's been going on for over 10
[1:10:43] years, and it's not getting
[1:10:45] anywhere. So everything that i
[1:10:47] will be talking about in this
[1:10:49] meeting is based off of
[1:10:51] firsthand experience and from my
[1:10:54] own personal research. I
[1:10:56] estimate out of a 16-year run I
[1:11:05] could save this state $341,280.
[1:11:07] If you guys can make the time to
[1:11:08] have this meeting with me, I'm
[1:11:09] going to have to excuse myself
[1:11:13] from the lighting. Please give
[1:11:16] that information to MS. Heidi
[1:11:18] zimmerman. And I've never
[1:11:21] missed a voat boat. I was a
[1:11:22] deep sea diver for 17 years
[1:11:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:11:24] you, sir
[1:11:27] >>speaker: I will be there oh
[1:11:28] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:11:31] you, sir. MAY we have the next
[1:11:31] speaker please
[1:11:33] >>speaker: yes, sir. Thank you
[1:11:43] for your time.
[1:11:45] >>speaker: hi, good morning.
[1:11:47] Hi, good morning. I'll make
[1:11:50] this very, very brief. I am
[1:11:52] kevin williams. I am legally
[1:11:57] blind and have suffered a hip
[1:11:59] fracture, requiring me to use a
[1:12:02] walker to get around. And I
[1:12:05] thank you so very much for your
[1:12:06] time.
[1:12:08] >>speaker: please help him he's
[1:12:10] being exited on monday with no
[1:12:11] accommodations. The shelters
[1:12:13] are full. There's a six-month
[1:12:14] waiting list. The waiting list
[1:12:15] for the house something full.
[1:12:16] Please help us
[1:12:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:12:18] you.
[1:12:21] >>clerk, robin stieler: last two
[1:12:23] speakers are michael laster and
[1:12:34] john underwood.
[1:12:36] >>speaker: yes. My name is
[1:12:39] michael laster, and I was just
[1:12:41] informed that because I haven't
[1:12:45] rented a place or have bills in
[1:12:48] my name, I have no ties to
[1:12:50] anywhere in orange county. I am
[1:12:52] in a shelter right now because i
[1:12:54] had to go to the hospital after
[1:12:57] living in my car and having an
[1:12:58] infection in my leg. I was able
[1:13:00] to get into a shelter where it
[1:13:04] takes me three hours, morning,
[1:13:06] noon and night, just to get my
[1:13:10] regular meds to be able to
[1:13:12] function. And they tell us we
[1:13:14] should just be grateful for
[1:13:18] having a house to live in. But
[1:13:21] people are suffering and are
[1:13:23] walking away because of how long
[1:13:26] it takes us to get our meds.
[1:13:28] And it just gets worse and worse
[1:13:30] every day, and when we try to
[1:13:33] talk, they just ignore us.
[1:13:35] Thank you.
[1:13:36] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:13:39] you, sir.
[1:13:43] >>speaker: the illumination
[1:13:45] foundation recoup care fullerton
[1:13:47] is not giving out the meds
[1:13:47] properly
[1:13:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there
[1:13:50] anyone else who needs an
[1:13:50] accommodation
[1:13:51] >>clerk, robin stieler: one
[1:14:01] more. John underwood.
[1:14:02] >>speaker: ladies and gentlemen
[1:14:04] of the board, I'm a journalist
[1:14:07] by trade but I am an advocate --
[1:14:09] have been an advocate for the
[1:14:10] unhoused and forgotten of orange
[1:14:13] county since the riverbed
[1:14:16] roll-ups of 2018. I'm just here
[1:14:18] to attest to the stories and the
[1:14:20] facts that have been brought to
[1:14:21] you today. I can tell you that
[1:14:24] they are just the tip of an
[1:14:29] iceberg of individuals in very
[1:14:31] similar donees these here who
[1:14:34] are being hemorrhaged back to
[1:14:35] the streets from what they
[1:14:37] thought were accommodated
[1:14:39] placements and permanent
[1:14:41] supportive housing. Mostly with
[1:14:43] supportive services they never
[1:14:45] got. And now they're going back
[1:14:47] to the street, often even
[1:14:50] stripped of their housing choice
[1:14:51] vouchers and reduced to the
[1:14:54] street without even an option
[1:14:57] for them to consider in terms of
[1:14:59] placement. This is a travesty
[1:15:02] on top of a catastrophe. I hope
[1:15:04] you all can pay attention to
[1:15:04] this
[1:15:05] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:15:05] you, sir
[1:15:06] >>speaker: get out from your
[1:15:08] share ands go to the street, and
[1:15:09] you will see what we're talking
[1:15:09] about
[1:15:10] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:15:13] you, sir. Was that -- does that
[1:15:15] conclude our come daiive needs
[1:15:16] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes
[1:15:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: there's a
[1:15:19] comment from supervisor foley
[1:15:20] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: if we
[1:15:21] had someone from care and
[1:15:23] coordination in the audience, if
[1:15:24] you could reach out to speak
[1:15:26] with MS. Zimmerman and the
[1:15:27] individuals who have housing
[1:15:29] concerns or if there's someone
[1:15:30] from health care agency, if
[1:15:31] somebody could talk with them
[1:15:35] today while they're here, that'd
[1:15:36] be great
[1:15:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: MADAM
[1:15:41] Ceo. Before MADAM Clerk --
[1:15:47] mirkz if I MAY?
[1:15:48] >>v. Chair, mitch mashburn: if
[1:15:52] I MAY. I'm already in contact
[1:15:53] with doug becht as it relates to
[1:15:55] our speakers here. He's also
[1:15:56] aware. He heard the comments
[1:15:58] and will be reaching out. So
[1:16:07] thank you.. There are two more
[1:16:10] items before we come back to
[1:16:11] MADAM Clerk with the changes to
[1:16:12] the agenda. Supervisor wagner
[1:16:13] >>don wagner: thank you,
[1:16:14] MR. CHAIRMAN. I do want to take
[1:16:25] a moment to recognize some of
[1:16:26] the hard-working members from
[1:16:30] our public works department who
[1:16:31] recently received praise from
[1:16:34] the local community in yorba
[1:16:36] lynda for their work
[1:16:37] beautification project in a
[1:16:39] small pocket within the city.
[1:16:40] Members of the community reached
[1:16:42] out to my office for the
[1:16:43] responsiveness, the
[1:16:43] professionalism and care
[1:16:44] dedicated to this project and
[1:16:47] requested that our public works
[1:16:48] professionals be publically
[1:16:49] recognized for their hard work,
[1:16:51] something the ceo and I are
[1:16:52] absolutely happy to do. I'd
[1:16:53] like to acknowledge the
[1:16:54] following public works
[1:16:56] professionals and extend the
[1:16:58] gratitude of the community for
[1:17:00] their hard work on cleaning up
[1:17:01] the area. And if you're here,
[1:17:04] stand up as I call your name.
[1:17:06] From our maintenance inspection
[1:17:09] team, we have eddie perez,
[1:17:13] carlos serrano, alejandro
[1:17:14] villegas, maurice ortise and
[1:17:17] chris ruiz. From the equipment
[1:17:20] operation's team, joe barboa,
[1:17:24] richard taylor, steve rochoa,
[1:17:30] edward molina, jose higareda,
[1:17:34] esteban zamora, omar, pedro
[1:17:36] guerrero, isidore cortez,
[1:17:39] brandon morgan and eric
[1:17:41] bozinski. Gentlemen, thank you
[1:17:43] so much on behalf of the yorba
[1:17:44] lynda community --
[1:17:46] [Applause]
[1:17:50] >>don wagner: all right. Yeah.
[1:17:52] On behalf of the yorba lynda
[1:17:54] community that I am privileged
[1:17:57] to represent, and I take the
[1:17:57] liberty of speaking for the
[1:17:59] entire board, we thank you for
[1:18:00] your professionalism, your
[1:18:01] dedication to preserving the
[1:18:03] quality of life for our
[1:18:05] residents in orange county, and
[1:18:06] I think -- she's back there with
[1:18:08] you. I think the ceo wanted to
[1:18:10] say something. Thank you, all,
[1:18:12] gentlemen. It's greatly,
[1:18:35] greatly appreciated.
[1:18:36] >>michelle aguirre: I was just
[1:18:37] telling the gentlemen that I
[1:18:38] know how hard they work every
[1:18:40] day and for the most part it
[1:18:42] goes unnoticed. And so I just
[1:18:43] greatly appreciate the
[1:18:45] acknowledgment by members of the
[1:18:46] community from our staff because
[1:18:48] we don't get to hear it every
[1:18:50] often but it's all day every day
[1:18:51] that they're doing great work.
[1:18:54] So thank you. Thank you,
[1:18:54] gentlemen
[1:18:55] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:18:57] you, supervisor wagner, for
[1:18:58] calling our attention to the
[1:18:59] great work that's being done.
[1:19:08] Now we have one more thing and
[1:19:09] vice-chair, I think you're the
[1:19:11] lead conspirator on this. Would
[1:19:12] you lead off
[1:19:13] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[1:19:14] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. At this time
[1:19:16] we would like to take a moment
[1:19:19] to recognize the service of our
[1:19:22] ceo, michelle aguirre, and her
[1:19:24] 37 years with the county of
[1:19:26] orange. And I think each of us
[1:19:27] have some comments, but thank
[1:19:27] you.
[1:19:42] [Applause]
[1:19:44] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
[1:19:44] think it's appropriate that you
[1:19:48] go out on a day where we have
[1:19:52] more than 125 items on our
[1:19:55] agenda. And so as a recognition
[1:19:57] and just a -- you know, a
[1:19:59] thanks, we all got together, we
[1:20:02] got you this lovely vase and 37
[1:20:05] flowers to brighten your day,
[1:20:07] recognizing your 37 years. And
[1:20:11] I'll just take a moment to share
[1:20:13] how I have really enjoyed
[1:20:14] working with you, how I have
[1:20:18] valued your insight, your
[1:20:20] mentorship, your knowledge, your
[1:20:21] institutional knowledge of the
[1:20:23] organization sun matched, and we
[1:20:27] are going to be at a big loss
[1:20:30] without it. And for those of
[1:20:32] who might not know, today is ceo
[1:20:35] aguirre's last board meeting.
[1:20:38] She will be retiring this week.
[1:20:40] And she started her career here,
[1:20:45] which I just love, as a
[1:20:46] assistant, a secretary in an
[1:20:47] office, while going to college.
[1:20:50] And she was going to be a
[1:20:51] psychologist, a clinical
[1:20:52] psychologist. Well, I think
[1:20:53] those clinical psychology
[1:20:56] courses are helping throughout
[1:21:00] the 37 years. And you often
[1:21:03] are, you know, the therapist,
[1:21:05] the advisor for all of your team
[1:21:09] and for all of us, and your
[1:21:14] positive outlook, your "can do"
[1:21:15] spirit helps everyone get to
[1:21:16] where they need to get.
[1:21:17] Sometimes it's harder than
[1:21:19] others. Sometimes we like your
[1:21:21] advice, other times we don't.
[1:21:24] But at end of the day, I know
[1:21:25] that your motivation is always
[1:21:29] about the good of the public and
[1:21:31] good governance. So thank you,
[1:21:34] michelle aguirre, for serving
[1:21:37] orange county and leaving a last
[1:21:39] legacy here at orange county.
[1:21:41] The projects that you have
[1:21:45] contributed to are long term and
[1:21:47] will stand the test of time. So
[1:21:48] we really appreciate your work.
[1:21:50] I know you're looking forward to
[1:21:51] lots of time with the
[1:21:52] grandchildren, traveling,
[1:21:54] spending time with your husband,
[1:21:56] who is already retired. And so
[1:22:00] we wish you all the best. We've
[1:22:02] got a day to get through, but we
[1:22:03] know that your heart is here,
[1:22:05] but your heart will be with your
[1:22:06] home and your family from here
[1:22:08] on out, so thank you so much for
[1:22:09] everything.
[1:22:09] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[1:22:10] supervisor wagner?
[1:22:13] >>don wagner: thank you. I will
[1:22:13] echo a lot of that, and I will
[1:22:16] say, obviously, you know, you've
[1:22:17] been here 37 years. Me not
[1:22:20] quite so long. None of us quite
[1:22:21] so long. So you were here when
[1:22:22] I got here, and it's very true
[1:22:26] that quite quickly I was able to
[1:22:29] realize that in you we had is
[1:22:30] someone who knew the depths of
[1:22:34] this county, knew it inside and
[1:22:36] outside, not just the dollars
[1:22:38] and cents. Though, that was
[1:22:39] your primary responsibility, but
[1:22:40] knew the way this county worked,
[1:22:44] knew the people here, and
[1:22:46] recognized and helped teach me
[1:22:48] that it is not just a talking
[1:22:53] point when we say the county
[1:22:56] family, that really there are
[1:22:59] genuine friendships here,
[1:23:00] opportunities for all of us to
[1:23:03] work together, to make each
[1:23:04] other better. And at top of
[1:23:08] that and leading that has been
[1:23:10] you from my day one, which was
[1:23:14] your day, like, what, 28 or
[1:23:17] so -- years. So that was
[1:23:23] certainly in the back of my mind
[1:23:24] when I and my colleagues tapped
[1:23:26] you to step into the role that
[1:23:27] you've got now. You were
[1:23:29] looking into retirement, I know
[1:23:30] that. And you really took one
[1:23:33] for the team. You came in at an
[1:23:35] uncertain time. You came in
[1:23:37] when searches throughout had not
[1:23:39] turned up the ideal candidate,
[1:23:43] and in part, we recognized, I
[1:23:44] think -- supervisor foley and I
[1:23:46] served on the ad hoc and I think
[1:23:49] we recognized that the perfect
[1:23:53] candidate was you. Don't think
[1:23:55] we can get to you stay any
[1:23:59] longer? No. All right. So you
[1:24:01] stepped in. You've done a great
[1:24:05] job. Those clinical skills
[1:24:06] really help in the management of
[1:24:09] the five of us. I recognize we
[1:24:11] are probably not a very easy
[1:24:14] board. Truth is, I think you
[1:24:19] have maybe tiny feet, but big
[1:24:23] shoes and whoever will come
[1:24:25] along next, I'm not going to ask
[1:24:27] that you walk in your heels but
[1:24:28] I am going to say that you have
[1:24:33] set a path that is admirable as
[1:24:35] one that your successor would be
[1:24:37] well advised to follow and that
[1:24:40] has generated enormous respect
[1:24:43] from me, and I think, from the
[1:24:44] entire community out there.
[1:24:46] Thank you. Not just for 37
[1:24:47] years, but, oh, my gosh, you've
[1:24:49] been a GOD send to this board
[1:24:50] for the last several years, and
[1:24:54] we thank you for it.
[1:24:55] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[1:24:57] supervisor sarmiento?
[1:24:58] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,
[1:25:01] chair. So, michelle a lot of
[1:25:03] what I wanted to say has already
[1:25:05] been said. But our time has
[1:25:07] been brief. I know I came on
[1:25:09] when you were still cfo, and,
[1:25:12] you know, we didn't -- we didn't
[1:25:14] know that you'd be serving in
[1:25:17] this role. So as was said, one
[1:25:18] of the things I really want to
[1:25:20] thank you for is your
[1:25:21] willingness to step in at a
[1:25:23] really difficult moment. And
[1:25:25] I'm sure over these 37 years,
[1:25:27] once you're away from us, you're
[1:25:29] going to be reflecting on so
[1:25:31] many incredible milestones that
[1:25:33] you oversaw in this county.
[1:25:34] Being here during the pandemic,
[1:25:37] being here during some really
[1:25:38] difficult times recently when
[1:25:40] we've had some charges against
[1:25:42] the county that you helped us
[1:25:43] cure and do some course
[1:25:45] correction on that. So I want
[1:25:47] to thank you on behalf of all
[1:25:49] the residents here in orange
[1:25:53] county that we knew, had trust
[1:25:54] and faith and confidence in your
[1:25:56] ability to help lead, you know,
[1:25:57] this county and help lead this
[1:26:00] board. You know, we know that,
[1:26:03] as was said, each one of us has
[1:26:05] different styles, has different
[1:26:06] priorities, but I think you were
[1:26:09] able to navigate these really
[1:26:10] well because you just had a
[1:26:13] great, you know, foothold and
[1:26:15] understanding on the numbers.
[1:26:16] But I think beyond your skill
[1:26:19] set with respect to being
[1:26:22] financial officer here at the
[1:26:23] county, I think one of the
[1:26:25] things I admire the most is that
[1:26:26] you've always cared for the
[1:26:29] least among us. And for those
[1:26:30] who have had their lives
[1:26:32] derailed in one way or another,
[1:26:33] whether it's illness, health,
[1:26:35] whether it's a bad decision, I
[1:26:36] think you've dedicated yourself
[1:26:39] to make sure that there is a
[1:26:40] legacy of work that you are
[1:26:42] going to be leading. So for
[1:26:44] that, you know, many of my
[1:26:45] residents unfortunately, you
[1:26:48] know, deal with those issues. I
[1:26:49] want to thank you on their
[1:26:51] behalf because they had a true
[1:26:53] genuine advocate in you, and
[1:26:55] your work is going to stand and
[1:26:59] be a legacy to what it is to be
[1:27:00] somebody who's an executive
[1:27:02] here. And so I just want to
[1:27:05] thank you for that. I also want
[1:27:08] to say, you know, thank you for
[1:27:09] staying longer. I know this be
[1:27:11] wasn't the moment that you
[1:27:12] wanted to leave. You wanted to
[1:27:14] leave last year because your
[1:27:16] husband -- you and your husband
[1:27:18] had plans, and you took a very
[1:27:20] difficult decision and, please,
[1:27:22] thank him on our behalf, you
[1:27:24] know, for the delay for him
[1:27:26] being considerate and giving you
[1:27:28] that grace to be with us as we,
[1:27:30] you know, navigated, you know,
[1:27:32] difficult decisions, as we
[1:27:33] continue to search for somebody
[1:27:35] who's going to, you know, fill
[1:27:37] that seat and continue in
[1:27:39] this -- in leading this evolving
[1:27:40] county. So I know that you've
[1:27:43] seen a lot in 37 years, reflect
[1:27:45] on it once you, you know, take a
[1:27:48] moment. It's been a meaningful
[1:27:50] life, professional life that
[1:27:53] you've led here. This -- orange
[1:27:55] county is a special place. And
[1:27:57] for the county to have entrusted
[1:27:59] so much of it in your hands and
[1:28:02] you took care of it, and I know
[1:28:04] you'll always have a special
[1:28:06] place in your heart for these
[1:28:08] years, this is your life's work.
[1:28:10] So thank you on behalf of
[1:28:11] everybody who MAY not be able to
[1:28:15] say thank you to you in person.
[1:28:17] We want to appreciate you. We
[1:28:20] want to live vicariously through
[1:28:21] you once you leave. Send us
[1:28:23] photographs so we can see what
[1:28:24] it's like to be on the other
[1:28:25] side. But on behalf of all of
[1:28:27] us, we want to thank you for
[1:28:29] showing, you know, patience,
[1:28:31] being firm with us when we know
[1:28:32] we didn't want to hear a certain
[1:28:34] response but that's our
[1:28:35] democracy. It's the tension
[1:28:37] that was built into these
[1:28:39] governments. So we appreciate
[1:28:42] you. Don't go far. Come back
[1:28:42] and visit us.
[1:28:45] You know, now you can employ
[1:28:48] some of the therapy on us as a
[1:28:49] professional. But we appreciate
[1:28:51] you. Thank you, michelle, for
[1:28:53] everything that you've done for
[1:28:56] us.
[1:28:57] >>janet nguyen: thank you,
[1:29:00] MR. CHAIRMAN. I'm excited for
[1:29:03] you, and, you know, it's -- this
[1:29:04] recognition is especially
[1:29:08] meaningful for me for you
[1:29:10] because we've known each other a
[1:29:12] decade ago. You started when I
[1:29:16] was first here. We were
[1:29:17] itsy-bitsy little kids trying to
[1:29:18] learn the county. You've been
[1:29:21] there longer than I was. But
[1:29:25] you had so much patience. You
[1:29:27] were so helpful to my staff when
[1:29:28] we first got here, the first
[1:29:30] time in 2007. We appreciate
[1:29:34] you. You were firm pickup
[1:29:35] taught us, you helped us, and
[1:29:40] when I came back and saw that
[1:29:41] you are the interim ceo, I was
[1:29:43] so excited because not only all
[1:29:46] of those quiets, but are you
[1:29:46] intelligent. You've got the
[1:29:48] courage. You had the respect of
[1:29:50] the department and the county
[1:29:52] employees, and those are the
[1:29:54] qualities that don't come
[1:29:56] easily. And so it wasn't a
[1:29:57] surprise to see you go from, you
[1:30:00] know, being in the budget as an
[1:30:03] analyst to, you know, we had a
[1:30:04] different path in that decade.
[1:30:07] You went all the way up to the
[1:30:09] top at county. I went to
[1:30:10] sacramento and came back. And
[1:30:13] since we've been back, thank
[1:30:16] you, because you -- and you your
[1:30:19] staff has been very helpful to
[1:30:20] our office. Has helped us
[1:30:22] navigate not only to my office,
[1:30:23] but also the board, the
[1:30:25] individual offices and to the
[1:30:28] county. We were here when the
[1:30:33] recession hit. We did the
[1:30:34] strategic plan together and we
[1:30:36] knew why we needed that
[1:30:37] strategic plan. It's not the
[1:30:38] same priority it is today, but
[1:30:40] we set it in motion for what we
[1:30:41] were able to do. This building
[1:30:43] was because of those strategic
[1:30:47] plans and those thinking-forward
[1:30:48] ideas, you know, that the budget
[1:30:50] team and the board at the time
[1:30:51] brought together. But that is
[1:30:52] because of the leadership of the
[1:30:53] budget team, and you were part
[1:30:55] of that. And so thank you for
[1:30:58] all that you do. I know this is
[1:30:59] an exciting time for you. Also
[1:31:02] appreciate the fact that you
[1:31:03] stayed behind one more year to
[1:31:08] help us navigate another -- we
[1:31:10] need stop this recession and
[1:31:14] this budget shortfall, you know.
[1:31:16] But everything that you are we
[1:31:18] appreciate, and so on behalf of
[1:31:29] not only the board and
[1:31:32] county...
[1:31:33] The -- for your retirement,
[1:31:35] don't forget us. You say that
[1:31:41] right now, and I see the
[1:31:43] department directors who have
[1:31:44] left. But you will truly enjoy
[1:31:46] it because serving the board is
[1:31:48] very challenging. We're all
[1:31:49] unique and different. We have
[1:31:50] different interests in our
[1:31:52] district. We have different
[1:31:55] personalities. But you've been
[1:31:57] able to make the ship steady,
[1:31:59] and you said no to us pickup
[1:32:00] said gentlemen to us, and you
[1:32:04] said no to us. But it's so much
[1:32:05] appreciated because you've never
[1:32:09] not given us an explanation and
[1:32:11] to do the thinking of looking
[1:32:15] ahead and forward. And so,
[1:32:16] again, thank you from the bottom
[1:32:18] of my heart. Thank you for
[1:32:19] everything that you do for the
[1:32:22] county and for the 3.2 million
[1:32:27] people of this county.
[1:32:28] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:32:29] you, supervisor. You guys
[1:32:34] didn't leave much for me to say.
[1:32:35] I would note that we've been
[1:32:37] searching for a future ceo for
[1:32:39] quite a while. I think the
[1:32:41] problem we keep running into,
[1:32:44] nobody that we've introduced or
[1:32:46] even looked at is even close to
[1:32:47] the ceo that we have. So you
[1:32:49] are in our minds as to where we
[1:32:52] might go for the future. That's
[1:32:56] great. You know, I admire your
[1:32:58] tenacity, you actually say no to
[1:33:01] supervisor requests. And that's
[1:33:04] the strength not everybody has.
[1:33:06] And I like the way you've
[1:33:08] actually taught us so much about
[1:33:11] the county. And that's helped
[1:33:13] all of us grow and to become
[1:33:14] better stewards of the county
[1:33:17] because of your example. And,
[1:33:20] you know, you maybe going -- I
[1:33:21] tried to convince to you do six
[1:33:22] more months because that's when
[1:33:25] my term ends. But you said no.
[1:33:27] And I think you are ready to go
[1:33:30] somewhere with your suitcase
[1:33:33] packed, I think. But I have to
[1:33:36] remember all you've taught me.
[1:33:37] It's been a lot. There's so
[1:33:40] many things about the county you
[1:33:42] only learn by being here quite a
[1:33:45] while. And our tenures here are
[1:33:47] too short to learn all, that but
[1:33:53] you've helped us learn into what
[1:33:56] we need to be. And if anything,
[1:33:57] I admire, it's the heart have
[1:33:59] you. You have a heart which you
[1:34:01] care, you care about the county,
[1:34:02] you care about the people, and
[1:34:04] you care about us. That's
[1:34:05] pretty cool. So I just wish you
[1:34:07] well. I've got your phone
[1:34:09] number, so if you need help with
[1:34:12] anything and vice-versa, we're
[1:34:14] not the end of the contact we
[1:34:16] might have. And so with that,
[1:34:19] I'd like all of us to join out
[1:34:20] here for a picture and we have a
[1:34:23] plaque to present.
[1:36:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: MADAM
[1:36:32] Clerk, would you help us with
[1:36:33] any changes to the calendar? I
[1:36:35] would note I have a somewhat
[1:36:37] different list. I've tried
[1:36:38] consolidate some things and put,
[1:36:41] for example, our budget up
[1:36:42] first, so...
[1:36:44] >>clerk, robin stieler: item 2
[1:36:45] has been deleted and 19 and 20
[1:36:48] have been continued to
[1:36:50] AUGUST 11, 2026 at 9:30 A.M.
[1:36:51] And the public has requested to
[1:36:52] pull from the consent calendar
[1:37:03] item 1.
[1:37:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: now we're
[1:37:08] at our consent calendar.
[1:37:10] >>leon page: I have a few
[1:37:11] housekeeping items before we get
[1:37:14] going. Item no. 78, that
[1:37:15] relates to the selection of a
[1:37:16] contractor for tree care
[1:37:19] maintenance services. With
[1:37:21] respect to that item, supervisor
[1:37:23] wagner received a campaign
[1:37:24] contribution or his campaign
[1:37:26] received a contribution from
[1:37:27] patrick mahoney, who is the
[1:37:29] PRESIDENT Of west coast
[1:37:30] arborist, one of the bidders in
[1:37:33] that procurement. So supervisor
[1:37:34] wagner will be recusing himself
[1:37:37] from item 78. Likewise on item
[1:37:40] 79, supervisor wagner's received
[1:37:42] a campaign contribution from rj
[1:37:44] noble, so he'll be recusing
[1:37:45] himself to item 79 and with
[1:37:48] respect to 94z, in DECEMBER of
[1:37:50] 2025 supervisor foley's campaign
[1:37:51] received a campaign contribution
[1:37:54] from bob olsen of dana point
[1:37:57] harbor partner and I've been
[1:38:00] informed that the supervisor has
[1:38:01] returned that contribution and
[1:38:04] so she MAY participate in the
[1:38:06] discussion on item 94z. Thank
[1:38:06] you
[1:38:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:38:07] you, counsel.
[1:38:08] >>clerk, robin stieler: the
[1:38:11] public has GOD pull item 1 from
[1:38:12] the consent calendar
[1:38:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[1:38:15] Colleagues anything that you'd
[1:38:16] like to pull from the consent
[1:38:18] calendar? Seeing none, there
[1:38:20] are several that I believe were
[1:38:21] continued, so...
[1:38:24] Okay. With the remaining ones
[1:38:26] it's been moved and second. Any
[1:38:27] objection? Seeing none, the
[1:38:29] other items are approved. We
[1:38:31] need to go to item 1, then.
[1:38:34] Call the speaker.
[1:38:34] >>clerk, robin stieler: 1. Under
[1:38:35] chair chaffee-orange county
[1:38:36] behavioral health advisory
[1:38:37] board, appoint virginia arvizu,
[1:38:38] stanton and reappoint stephen
[1:38:39] mcnally, costa mesa and michell
[1:38:40] fernandez, laguna niguel, for
[1:38:43] terms ending 3/9/29.
[1:38:45] And we have one request to
[1:38:53] speak. Deborah donovan.
[1:38:56] >>speaker: thank you. It's
[1:38:59] deborah donothan. I am making
[1:39:00] comment on the health advisory
[1:39:02] board appointments. As these
[1:39:04] appointments are approved, I ask
[1:39:05] the board to ensure this
[1:39:06] advisory body is not just
[1:39:08] reviewing programs on paper but
[1:39:10] asking whether orange county's
[1:39:11] behavioral health system is
[1:39:12] truly supporting people in the
[1:39:14] community. The public needs
[1:39:16] transparency on whether fund
[1:39:17] something going toward
[1:39:19] prevention, voluntary services,
[1:39:21] family support and disability
[1:39:22] rights or whether vulnerable
[1:39:24] residents are being rooted into
[1:39:27] crisis systems such as care
[1:39:29] court, probate mental health
[1:39:31] court, conservatorship and
[1:39:32] restrictive placements.
[1:39:33] Behavioral health oversight
[1:39:36] should include ada and olmsted
[1:39:37] compliance, public outcome
[1:39:39] measures and the voices of
[1:39:41] families and disabled residents
[1:39:42] directly impacted by these
[1:39:44] systems. Thank you.
[1:39:44] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:39:45] you
[1:39:45] >>clerk, robin stieler: no
[1:39:47] further," MR. Chair
[1:39:48] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[1:39:49] right. This is item 1. I'm
[1:39:51] going to move it. This is
[1:39:53] appointment to people to the
[1:39:55] orange county behavioral health
[1:39:55] advisory board
[1:39:57] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[1:39:57] second
[1:39:58] >>chair, doug chaffee: any
[1:39:59] objection? Seeing none, the
[1:40:02] item is approved. I want to go
[1:40:07] next totem 94w, which is our
[1:40:10] budget.
[1:40:11] s94w. County executive office-
[1:40:12] adopt fy 2026-27 final budget
[1:40:13] resolution; approve various
[1:40:15] internal service fund billing
[1:40:18] rates; approve fy 2026-27
[1:40:19] employee and employer retirement
[1:40:22] contribution rates; direct human
[1:40:23] resource services to adjust
[1:40:25] position counts to reconcile
[1:40:27] straw vote; establish
[1:40:30] district attorney special
[1:40:31] appropriations and vehicle theft
[1:40:33] task force special funds;
[1:40:35] establish sheriff special
[1:40:35] appropriations fund and regional
[1:40:38] narcotics suppression program;
[1:40:39] adopt resolutions authorizing
[1:40:41] temporary transfers of funds;
[1:40:42] direct auditor-controller to
[1:40:44] make related payments and
[1:40:46] reimbursements; approve fy
[1:40:47] 2026-27 county master events
[1:40:50] calendar and fy 2026-27
[1:40:51] charitable organization
[1:40:53] activities plan and make related
[1:40:55] findings under government
[1:40:57] code section 26227; adopt
[1:40:59] resolution approving sponsorship
[1:40:59] marketing plan and making
[1:41:00] related findings; adopt
[1:41:02] resolution approving united way
[1:41:04] of orange county to conduct fy
[1:41:06] 2026-27 charitable campaign and
[1:41:11] making related findings; receive
[1:41:13] and file fy 2026-27 annual list
[1:41:15] of county ad hoc committees;
[1:41:17] approve revised county
[1:41:18] organizational change
[1:41:19] administrative procedure and
[1:41:21] authorize county executive
[1:41:22] office to make changes under
[1:41:25] certain conditions; approve
[1:41:28] revised classification
[1:41:29] specifications, title
[1:41:31] descriptions and set pay grades,
[1:41:33] effective 6/26/26; approve and
[1:41:35] adopt side letter agreements
[1:41:36] with orange county employees
[1:41:38] association community services
[1:41:40] unit and supervisory management
[1:41:42] unit; adopt revisions to
[1:41:44] personnel & salary resolution,
[1:41:46] effective 6/26/26; adopt
[1:41:48] retirement assistance program
[1:41:50] and policy, a voluntary
[1:41:52] incentive program, and authorize
[1:41:53] county executive officer or
[1:41:54] designee to enter into
[1:41:56] agreement as necessary,
[1:41:57] authorize chief human resource
[1:41:59] officer or designee to
[1:42:01] administer retiree medical
[1:42:02] program and health reimbursement
[1:42:03] arrangement plan, make
[1:42:05] amendments as necessary and
[1:42:06] return to the board of
[1:42:07] supervisors for approval; adopt
[1:42:08] part-time plus program, a
[1:42:10] voluntary program, and authorize
[1:42:11] county executive officer or
[1:42:12] designee to implement and
[1:42:14] administer program
[1:42:17] . And MR. Chair, we have
[1:42:21] received 16 requests to speak on
[1:42:22] s94w.
[1:42:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[1:42:23] right. Please call the
[1:42:24] speakers
[1:42:24] >>clerk, robin stieler: I will
[1:42:26] call three names at a time.
[1:42:27] Please line up in the center of
[1:42:29] the room behind the podium when
[1:42:32] your name is called. Cassandra
[1:42:34] perez. District attorney todd
[1:42:49] spitzer and jennifer roberson.
[1:42:53] >>speaker: hello, is a andra
[1:42:56] perez, district director for
[1:42:59] congressman lou corriea, I'm
[1:43:02] writing in regards to item
[1:43:05] no. S94w budget resolution. The
[1:43:06] item concerns $5 million in
[1:43:07] federal funding I secured
[1:43:10] through the fiscal year 2022
[1:43:11] committee project funding
[1:43:13] process for the county's
[1:43:13] coordinated re-entry center.
[1:43:16] I'd like to restate my
[1:43:19] insistence for my letter earlier
[1:43:20] this month where the county
[1:43:21] works with the city of santa ana
[1:43:23] before proceeding with the
[1:43:25] project. Back in 2021 when the
[1:43:26] project was submitted to my
[1:43:28] office, the county had not
[1:43:29] decided on a project location.
[1:43:30] Clearly given the delicate
[1:43:31] nature of the re-entry project
[1:43:33] it is the duty of the county to
[1:43:35] obtain buy and from impacted
[1:43:37] city and community members.
[1:43:38] This due diligence was not
[1:43:40] conducted prior to the project
[1:43:42] submission to my office but I
[1:43:45] request you to obtain this
[1:43:47] immediately by conducting
[1:43:49] thorough outreach with impacted
[1:43:51] community members before moving
[1:43:53] forward to the community
[1:43:53] consensus
[1:43:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:43:55] you. Ma'am. Time is up. We
[1:44:02] have your letter. Thank you.
[1:44:03] >>speaker: MR. CHAIRMAN, members
[1:44:05] of the board. Good morning.
[1:44:07] Michelle, congratulations on
[1:44:09] behalf of the nearly 1,000
[1:44:10] employees in the district
[1:44:10] attorney's office. We
[1:44:12] appreciate your service. One of
[1:44:14] the things I want to say about a
[1:44:16] 37-year ploy employee and
[1:44:17] somebody who's been serving this
[1:44:18] county for 37 and a half years
[1:44:21] as an elected official is that,
[1:44:22] as michelle knows and I know, we
[1:44:25] give our service, but things
[1:44:26] move on, and there has to be
[1:44:28] other people who take up the
[1:44:31] mantel. So I really am thankful
[1:44:33] for her service, but I also know
[1:44:35] that we have to leave a county
[1:44:37] behind in this budget process,
[1:44:39] and what is most important is
[1:44:42] not MS. Aguirre or todd spitzer.
[1:44:44] It's our employees. And our
[1:44:46] employees rely on a budget
[1:44:47] process that builds credibility
[1:44:49] and moral and that people know
[1:44:50] we're taking care of them. This
[1:44:52] budget process wasn't even
[1:44:54] agendized. It was put on as a
[1:44:55] supplemental, almost as an
[1:44:57] after-thought. The most
[1:44:58] important vote that a board of
[1:45:00] supervisors has is your budget.
[1:45:02] I would ask you to go -- wow
[1:45:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, if
[1:45:05] you can be quick...
[1:45:07] >>speaker: I'd ask to you go
[1:45:09] back to the prior process that
[1:45:10] we used when I was a supervisor
[1:45:13] for 12 years serving with
[1:45:14] supervisor nguyen, allow us to
[1:45:17] have the net county cost budget,
[1:45:19] have the ceo recommendation, let
[1:45:20] us have our augmentation
[1:45:22] requests, and let's have a
[1:45:24] robust discussion in public
[1:45:27] about our budget. You went into
[1:45:28] closed session. You came out.
[1:45:30] There was an opening statement.
[1:45:33] You didn't even go through each
[1:45:33] program --
[1:45:34] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:45:34] you
[1:45:36] >>speaker: to discuss the
[1:45:37] budget. Please change this
[1:45:37] budget process
[1:45:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:45:38] you.
[1:45:40] >>clerk, robin stieler: the next
[1:45:41] three individuals, please come
[1:45:43] forward, arissa palmer, cindy
[1:45:47] young and charles barfield.
[1:45:49] >>speaker: good morning. First
[1:45:51] I want to thank you all for
[1:45:52] having meetings with breast-feed
[1:45:56] L.A. Our first five oc team and
[1:46:00] the naacp oc, my name is
[1:46:02] jennifer roberson. I won't
[1:46:04] belabor the reasons why orange
[1:46:04] county health care agency
[1:46:05] decided not to accept
[1:46:07] continuation funding. I just
[1:46:09] want to update you that
[1:46:11] breast-feed L.A. Has met with
[1:46:12] orange county health care agency
[1:46:13] along with our first five
[1:46:16] partners and the naacp, and they
[1:46:19] have committed -- our leadership
[1:46:20] have committed to going hard
[1:46:22] ahead and accepting that funding
[1:46:24] from the state. I now put the
[1:46:25] next ball in your court and ask
[1:46:28] that our board of supervisors
[1:46:31] commit to asking for oversight.
[1:46:32] They require orange county
[1:46:34] health care agency to submit a
[1:46:37] formal request to the cdph to
[1:46:38] accept that continuation fund
[1:46:40] nothing later than JUNE 25th
[1:46:43] and require ochca to present a
[1:46:44] formal request plan for
[1:46:46] continuation funding at the next
[1:46:47] board of supervisors meeting.
[1:46:49] Thank you for all of your
[1:46:50] continued support of black
[1:46:51] families in orange county
[1:46:52] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:46:53] you, ma'am. MAY we have the
[1:46:56] next speaker please? Of
[1:46:57] >>speaker: good morning. My
[1:46:58] name is arissa palmer, the
[1:47:00] executive director for
[1:47:01] breast-feed L.A., the
[1:47:02] organization selected to
[1:47:03] administer orange county's first
[1:47:04] ever black infant health
[1:47:07] program. Today we respectfully
[1:47:09] ask the board to take immediate
[1:47:10] action to preserve this vital
[1:47:12] program. Firstly we ask to you
[1:47:14] direct orange county health care
[1:47:16] agency to formally request
[1:47:18] continuation funding for cdph no
[1:47:21] later than JUNE 25th with all
[1:47:23] subcontractors included on that
[1:47:25] email for transparency and to
[1:47:26] accept fund thatting within one
[1:47:28] week of approval. Finally we
[1:47:29] ask to you support a sole source
[1:47:30] agreement with first five orange
[1:47:32] county, so services can continue
[1:47:35] for families without disruption
[1:47:36] while a long-term solution is
[1:47:38] established. The question
[1:47:40] before us is not whether
[1:47:41] disparities exist. The data is
[1:47:42] clear that it does. The
[1:47:44] question is whether orange
[1:47:46] county will continue investing
[1:47:47] in a be proven solution that
[1:47:49] directly supports mothers,
[1:47:51] babies, and families. We urge
[1:47:55] to you act swiftly so that the
[1:47:56] progress we have made is not
[1:47:57] lost and that black families in
[1:47:59] orange county know their health
[1:48:00] and well-being will remain a
[1:48:01] priority. Thank you
[1:48:02] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:48:05] you, ma'am.
[1:48:06] >>speaker: good morning,
[1:48:07] supervisors. My name is cindy
[1:48:10] young, and I serve as director
[1:48:11] of strategic partnerships for
[1:48:13] breast-feed L.A. Over the past
[1:48:14] several months community
[1:48:15] members, partners and
[1:48:16] stakeholders have heard varying
[1:48:18] explanations regarding the cost
[1:48:20] and sustainability of the black
[1:48:21] infant health program yet to
[1:48:22] date we have not received a
[1:48:23] complete accounting of how
[1:48:25] program funds were actually
[1:48:28] spent. We respectfully request
[1:48:28] full transparency from the
[1:48:29] orange county health care
[1:48:31] agency. Specifically we ask for
[1:48:31] a detailed accounting of all
[1:48:34] funds allocated and expended for
[1:48:35] black infant health, not just
[1:48:37] projected costs. This should
[1:48:39] include any expenditures covered
[1:48:40] through health realignment funds
[1:48:42] and a clear breakdown of how
[1:48:44] public dollars were utilized.
[1:48:45] This information should be
[1:48:46] provided to each member of this
[1:48:47] board, first five orange county,
[1:48:49] and breast-feed L.A. We also
[1:48:51] ask that orange county health
[1:48:52] care agency commit to
[1:48:53] understanding and fully
[1:48:55] utilizing available funding
[1:48:57] opportunities including the pair
[1:48:59] natal equity initiative. Orange
[1:49:00] county should not leave state
[1:49:03] resources on the table when
[1:49:05] those funds exist to
[1:49:07] specifically address maternal
[1:49:08] and infant health inequities.
[1:49:10] We urge the county to pursue
[1:49:11] these opportunities in a timely
[1:49:12] and strategic matter
[1:49:13] >>clerk, robin stieler: and the
[1:49:15] next three speakers, please come
[1:49:17] forward, tanya livingston,
[1:49:20] molina gibson and jasmine alan
[1:49:21] >>speaker: good morning, charles
[1:49:23] barfield, oca's general manager.
[1:49:24] I was going to riddle you for 2
[1:49:25] minutes on vacancies, deletions
[1:49:27] and workload, but since I only
[1:49:29] have 1 minute, let me get right
[1:49:32] to it. Buried in this final
[1:49:33] budget resolution are two
[1:49:35] cost-saving measures. One aimed
[1:49:37] at retirement and another one
[1:49:39] aimed at part-time plus. There
[1:49:42] is no way ocea can sign off on
[1:49:44] this in its current form. I've
[1:49:46] been told that there are 2000
[1:49:48] county workers there are
[1:49:48] eligible for this, and with the
[1:49:51] proceed violations that call for
[1:49:52] automatic and permanent
[1:49:54] deletions, it's a non-starter
[1:49:57] for us. My last comment is not
[1:50:00] addressed to this board, but
[1:50:03] rather to 12 employees in the
[1:50:04] D.A., dna collection unit and
[1:50:07] their families. For the last
[1:50:08] couple weeks, you know, we've
[1:50:09] struggled to get answers from
[1:50:13] the county on certain aspects
[1:50:14] of -- or promises that have been
[1:50:16] made. Finally, last night at
[1:50:17] 8:00 the county put their
[1:50:20] commitment in writing. And I'm
[1:50:21] speaking to the 12 employees and
[1:50:23] their families. Yes, it took
[1:50:24] longer, it should not have taken
[1:50:27] this long, and, you shouldn't
[1:50:27] have been placed in such
[1:50:29] uncertainty. But we got there,
[1:50:31] and we got there together.
[1:50:33] Thank you for your time.
[1:50:35] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[1:50:40] you.
[1:50:44] >>speaker: hello. My name is
[1:50:45] tanaya livingston and a
[1:50:46] participant of bih orange
[1:50:48] county. I'm a black mother who
[1:50:49] has been directly affected by
[1:50:50] race. And I discrimination by
[1:50:51] the medical system that has not
[1:50:53] been designed in the favor of
[1:50:54] mothers who look like myself.
[1:50:56] Black mothers depend on bih to
[1:50:59] be able to gain resources and
[1:50:59] support where the system failed
[1:51:01] us. There is no community nor
[1:51:02] support that directly identifys
[1:51:04] and intentionally supports the
[1:51:06] indifferences that black mothers
[1:51:07] experience with prenatal and
[1:51:10] postpartum complications. It is
[1:51:11] vital for the community and for
[1:51:14] the future of african-americans
[1:51:16] to have this support. Thank
[1:51:17] you.
[1:51:20] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[1:51:23] you.
[1:51:26] >>speaker: hello. My name is
[1:51:27] molina gibson, I'm a
[1:51:30] credentialed former elementary
[1:51:31] teacher, a board certified
[1:51:32] behavioral analyst and a
[1:51:35] birthing doula. I work with
[1:51:37] infants all the way to adults.
[1:51:38] A lot this work is in the
[1:51:39] disability realm. Since I
[1:51:41] started birth work it has been
[1:51:44] made clear that preconception
[1:51:46] birth and postpartum experiences
[1:51:49] can play a fundamental role in
[1:51:53] the infants' overall growth and
[1:51:56] development. To kind of tie
[1:51:57] this all back in, as you heard,
[1:51:59] black women in the united states
[1:52:02] face maternal mortality rates
[1:52:03] nearly three times higher than
[1:52:06] their counterparts, a disparity
[1:52:07] that urgent action. I'm calling
[1:52:09] on the supervisor to mandate
[1:52:13] that ochca, first five, and oc
[1:52:16] and breast-feed L.A. To identify
[1:52:16] and commit to a sustainable path
[1:52:19] forward for black infant health
[1:52:20] in orange county. Thank you.
[1:52:22] >>clerk, robin stieler: karen
[1:52:27] costin, leah burk quest and
[1:52:34] chandra caldwell.
[1:52:36] >>speaker: hello, in one year
[1:52:37] since our program's inception we
[1:52:39] have served over 70 mom ands
[1:52:41] their families, been designated
[1:52:43] as a model program by the cdph
[1:52:44] and established relationships
[1:52:47] between the county based and
[1:52:48] community based program alike.
[1:52:51] The bih supports various county
[1:52:54] and statewide he public health
[1:52:55] initiatives, promoting safe
[1:52:57] sleep mark term mental health,
[1:53:00] child passenger safety and asus
[1:53:02] prevention. However, we are
[1:53:04] only a pilot program serving 2%
[1:53:06] of the population. The black
[1:53:08] community is twice as large as
[1:53:13] the entire ousd k-12 population,
[1:53:15] yet programming is always under
[1:53:16] contention. I'm asking you to
[1:53:18] take the lives of black mothers
[1:53:21] and babies as seriously as you
[1:53:24] do the education for all of your
[1:53:25] children in orange county. We
[1:53:26] are calling for the same fiscal
[1:53:28] transparency that you expect of
[1:53:29] your constituents. Thank you
[1:53:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[1:53:38] you.
[1:53:39] >>speaker: my name is karen
[1:53:42] costin from black infant health
[1:53:44] kern county. Every baby
[1:53:48] deserves an equal chance and
[1:53:49] healthy stock market yet black
[1:53:51] infants continue to experience
[1:53:52] higher rates of infant mortality
[1:53:55] and poor health outcomes in
[1:53:57] every group. They are related
[1:53:58] to differences and access to
[1:53:59] quality health care mark term
[1:54:01] support, safehousing and other
[1:54:02] resources that help families
[1:54:04] thrive. Investing in black
[1:54:05] infant health benefits our
[1:54:07] entire community. While mothers
[1:54:09] receive culturally responsive
[1:54:11] prenatal and postpartum care,
[1:54:13] mental health support and access
[1:54:14] to trusted community-based
[1:54:16] services, babies are more likely
[1:54:18] to be born healthy and reach
[1:54:20] their full potential. I
[1:54:20] encourage the board to continue
[1:54:24] supporting this program that
[1:54:25] reduces disparities and
[1:54:26] prioritizing black infant
[1:54:28] health. We are investing in
[1:54:30] healthier families, stronger
[1:54:30] communities and a brighter
[1:54:31] future for orange county. Thank
[1:54:34] you for your time and
[1:54:34] commitment
[1:54:37] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[1:54:48] you.
[1:54:50] >>speaker: good morning, my name
[1:54:50] is chandra. I'm asking for
[1:54:53] truth and transparency. Imagine
[1:54:54] being born african-american and
[1:54:56] we all know the history of
[1:54:57] america. African-americans run
[1:54:58] fortunately still feeling the
[1:55:00] side effects of slavery. The
[1:55:01] black infant mortality rate is
[1:55:03] really high in orange county.
[1:55:04] Black infant health was here to
[1:55:06] combat that. That being said,
[1:55:09] as you imagine being
[1:55:10] african-american, how would you
[1:55:12] handle racism? How would you
[1:55:14] handle discrimination? How
[1:55:15] would you handle a system built
[1:55:17] against you in having a safe
[1:55:18] place as a mother being taken
[1:55:20] away due to lies and
[1:55:22] discriminatory action? We're
[1:55:26] asking for transparency with the
[1:55:27] budget, liberty, and justice for
[1:55:29] all. And african-americans are
[1:55:30] included in that "all" because
[1:55:36] we're all created under the
[1:55:39] equal, in GOD's eyes
[1:55:39] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:55:40] you.
[1:55:43] >>clerk, robin stieler: keisha
[1:55:46] harris, amonte randolph and
[1:55:48] deborah donothan.
[1:55:49] >>speaker: good morning, my name
[1:55:52] is leah bjurquist, a certified
[1:55:53] child birth educator and
[1:55:55] certified doula and I serve on
[1:55:56] the board of directors for
[1:55:59] breast-feed L.A. The maternal
[1:56:04] mortality rate for black mothers
[1:56:08] are expedientially higher than
[1:56:10] their white counterparts. I
[1:56:12] have been witness to the
[1:56:13] inequities and we are
[1:56:14] respectfully asking that you
[1:56:16] stand with black families and
[1:56:20] demand that ochca immediately
[1:56:21] pursue continuation funding and
[1:56:25] work with first five oc and
[1:56:27] breast-feed L.A. To ensure black
[1:56:29] infant health remains in orange
[1:56:31] county. I'm asking you to
[1:56:33] establish a pathway for
[1:56:35] implementation, award a sole
[1:56:38] source contract to first five oc
[1:56:41] so breast-feed L.A. Can continue
[1:56:44] operating black infant health in
[1:56:47] oc without interruption. Thank
[1:56:51] you.
[1:56:53] >>speaker: good morning, my name
[1:56:54] is keisha harris, and I am a
[1:56:57] mental health professional with
[1:56:57] black infant health orange
[1:56:59] county. I'm here today to ask
[1:57:00] for your support in keeping
[1:57:01] black infant health in orange
[1:57:04] county. This program provides
[1:57:05] critical support to black
[1:57:06] mothers, babies and families
[1:57:09] helping address the disparities
[1:57:10] that continue to impact black
[1:57:13] maternal and infant health.
[1:57:15] We're asking the board to direct
[1:57:17] ochca to immediately secure
[1:57:22] continuation funding present --
[1:57:23] a clear plan to keep the program
[1:57:25] operating and work with first
[1:57:27] five oc and breast-feed L.A. To
[1:57:28] ensure there's no interruption
[1:57:29] in services. We also ask for
[1:57:31] transparency about how fund has
[1:57:34] been used and a commitment to
[1:57:35] pursuing future funding
[1:57:36] opportunities. As someone who
[1:57:38] works directly with participates
[1:57:40] and growing up in orange county,
[1:57:42] I see the impact this program
[1:57:44] has every day. The families we
[1:57:47] serve rely on these services,
[1:57:48] relationships and resources.
[1:57:49] They should not have to worry
[1:57:51] about having -- about losing a
[1:57:53] program that is helping them
[1:57:55] thrive. I urge you to take
[1:57:57] action today to ensure black
[1:57:58] infant health remains available
[1:58:00] to the families in orange
[1:58:01] county
[1:58:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[1:58:07] you, ma'am.
[1:58:10] >>speaker: my name is imani
[1:58:12] randolph, a youngish ph.D.
[1:58:15] Student at uc irvine, who has
[1:58:17] grown to love the uniqueness of
[1:58:19] orange county. As I look toward
[1:58:20] graduation, knowing I've done
[1:58:21] everything that has been asked
[1:58:25] of myself in my generation
[1:58:26] including going to 62, giving
[1:58:27] back to my community, looking
[1:58:28] forward to getting a good job
[1:58:30] and hopefully being able to
[1:58:32] start a family, I'm faced with
[1:58:33] the reality that I'm more than
[1:58:36] three times likely to die
[1:58:37] pursuing those goals as my
[1:58:39] counter-arts and if I survive my
[1:58:41] child will be two part-times
[1:58:41] times as likely to die in
[1:58:43] infancy. This is not only my
[1:58:44] reality but the reality of over
[1:58:46] 50,000 families here in orange
[1:58:47] county. Knowing this, I was
[1:58:49] encouraged by knowing that black
[1:58:51] infant health was a sustainable
[1:58:52] effort to support those
[1:58:54] families. However, now they
[1:58:56] face lack of funding, and I am
[1:58:59] asking that you all seek to
[1:59:01] encourage and support a
[1:59:03] collaborative solution that
[1:59:07] directs ochca, first five, and
[1:59:09] breast-feed L.A. To identify and
[1:59:10] execute a sustainable path to
[1:59:12] keep black infant healthy in
[1:59:13] orange county
[1:59:15] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[1:59:17] you.
[1:59:19] >>speaker: good morning. My
[1:59:20] name is deborah donothan.
[1:59:22] Before approving the budget, I
[1:59:24] asked the board to make clear
[1:59:27] how much fund something going
[1:59:29] into behavioral health, court
[1:59:33] connected services, care court,
[1:59:34] conservatorship-related systems,
[1:59:35] crisis response placements and
[1:59:37] prevention. The public deserves
[1:59:38] outcome measures to ensure the
[1:59:40] people are being stabilized in
[1:59:42] the community or pushed deeper
[1:59:43] into courts, institutions,
[1:59:46] conservatorships or restrictive
[1:59:48] placements, county funding
[1:59:49] should protect families,
[1:59:50] disability rights, prevention
[1:59:52] and community-based care, not
[1:59:54] quietly expand systems that lead
[1:59:56] to loss of rights. Thank you.
[1:59:57] >>clerk, robin stieler: no
[1:59:59] further speakers, MR. Chair
[2:00:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[2:00:02] you, MADAM Clerk. Board
[2:00:03] members, do we have any staff
[2:00:05] presentations you'd like to hear
[2:00:12] from? I don't see any. Okay.
[2:00:13] Supervisor sarmiento?
[2:00:15] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,
[2:00:16] MR. Chair. I'm simply going to
[2:00:17] go ahead and make my comments
[2:00:21] that we -- that I partially made
[2:00:23] at previous straw vote meeting
[2:00:25] at the last time -- last time we
[2:00:27] heard the budget item. I want
[2:00:28] to reiterate on recommended
[2:00:30] action number 1, program 1, I
[2:00:33] will be a "no" vote based upon
[2:00:35] the arguments made then. I also
[2:00:39] want to ask our ceo, I know
[2:00:41] we've received many comments
[2:00:42] regarding a potential
[2:00:43] coordinated re-entry center in
[2:00:45] the city of santa ana, which is
[2:00:47] different from our workforce
[2:00:48] re-entry in the city of orange.
[2:00:52] So I want to clarify, MADAM Ceo,
[2:00:54] does this budget that we're
[2:00:56] deliberating and potentially
[2:00:58] adopting today include the
[2:01:00] re-entry project on hesperian
[2:01:02] and the city of santa ana?
[2:01:03] >>michelle aguirre: the budget
[2:01:06] adoption today for fiscal year
[2:01:08] '26/'27 does not approve the
[2:01:09] project. It does not commit the
[2:01:11] county to moving forward with
[2:01:13] that project, supervisor
[2:01:14] sarmiento great, thank you. I
[2:01:15] just wanted to make sure we have
[2:01:18] that on the record as we
[2:01:19] we have
[2:01:21] some members of the public and
[2:01:22] members of the city council from
[2:01:23] santa ana that wanted to make
[2:01:25] comment on that. So thank you
[2:01:27] for clarifying. I also wanted
[2:01:31] to make comeant on item -- on
[2:01:35] recommended action 29. So I did
[2:01:37] hear MR. Barfield come before us
[2:01:40] and explain that potentially
[2:01:44] 2000 employees could qualify for
[2:01:45] the requirement assistance
[2:01:46] program and the way that the
[2:01:49] policy is currently written,
[2:01:51] every position that someone
[2:01:53] retires out of could be
[2:01:54] considered for deletion. I
[2:01:56] thank you for sending a memo to
[2:01:57] us right now with some
[2:01:58] additional language. But we
[2:02:02] know if this -- if this is
[2:02:04] exercised we could have a huge
[2:02:07] impact on our workforce if
[2:02:08] everybody took us up on that.
[2:02:10] Before we delete any positions,
[2:02:13] I know that the amend red line
[2:02:15] version is that it would be at
[2:02:23] discretion and purview of the
[2:02:24] county -- what I would like to
[2:02:25] add for the board's
[2:02:27] consideration is to ask that
[2:02:29] staff bring the vacancy list
[2:02:31] back to the board for
[2:02:33] consideration. That way we can
[2:02:35] have another -- maybe five pair
[2:02:36] of eyes look at, this but I do
[2:02:38] think that this is something
[2:02:40] that -- with respect to
[2:02:42] workforce impacts here, is
[2:02:44] important for us to also be able
[2:02:46] to comment and remark on that.
[2:02:48] So I just wanted to make those
[2:02:50] comments, MR. Chair, for the
[2:02:52] record and we'll hand that back
[2:02:52] to you
[2:02:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[2:02:54] you. I might weigh in because
[2:02:57] we do have some additional
[2:03:00] language presented by staff. My
[2:03:01] suggestion would be a little bit
[2:03:03] different, that would be to
[2:03:04] simply eliminate section 4a.
[2:03:08] Not deal with eliminating
[2:03:09] employees. Rather if there's to
[2:03:12] be an elimination, we have
[2:03:13] quarterly updates and staff
[2:03:14] could come forward on a
[2:03:15] quarterly basis and indicate if
[2:03:19] some positions would need it be
[2:03:21] or consider for vacating
[2:03:21] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
[2:03:23] &
[2:03:23] second that
[2:03:24] >>chair, doug chaffee: just
[2:03:26] eliminate that, leave it open.
[2:03:28] Because we do come back
[2:03:31] quarterly for revisions and then
[2:03:33] this board could consider
[2:03:34] whether it be appropriate. That
[2:03:36] would be my having us
[2:03:37] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.
[2:03:40] I support that request. Also, I
[2:03:46] had some questions about the
[2:03:49] issue that we discussed here
[2:03:51] about the re-entry center. So
[2:03:54] help me understand, because the
[2:03:57] budget -- a straw vote budget
[2:03:58] that we adopted we discussed the
[2:04:01] fact that there was $21 million
[2:04:05] within that budget for the cip
[2:04:08] to pay for phase 1 of that
[2:04:10] project. And then we sort of
[2:04:12] paused that before we could get
[2:04:14] here today. But what has
[2:04:17] changed in the budget to remove
[2:04:24] that $21 million from that cip
[2:04:26] budgeted item
[2:04:27] >>michelle aguirre: supervisor,
[2:04:33] to clarify, so the budget -- we
[2:04:35] budget appropriations within our
[2:04:40] capital project budget. But
[2:04:43] that does not provide any
[2:04:43] authority authorization to move
[2:04:45] forward related to the project
[2:04:46] itself. The board has to
[2:04:48] approve that separately. And
[2:04:51] the board has not considered
[2:04:52] that item yet. That would be in
[2:04:57] the future. So the budget is
[2:04:58] just -- I would say just the
[2:05:00] budget, right. It's just the
[2:05:02] capital project budget that is
[2:05:04] being adopted. It's just the
[2:05:06] appropriations. It's not the
[2:05:08] project itself that is being
[2:05:09] considered today.
[2:05:10] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
[2:05:14] So my concern is that -- and I
[2:05:15] raised this at the last meeting.
[2:05:19] We are right now trying to
[2:05:20] basically find money in the
[2:05:23] budget because we have needs.
[2:05:25] We don't want to have any
[2:05:29] layoffs or terminations, and so
[2:05:35] we have squirreled away -- it's
[2:05:36] $61 million for the phase 1 and
[2:05:40] phase 2 for this project. And I
[2:05:42] had asked previously -- I don't
[2:05:45] think I got that information --
[2:05:46] what percentage -- what portion
[2:05:52] of the 61 million is walled off
[2:05:53] funds that can't be used for any
[2:05:54] other purpose other than that
[2:05:57] type of purpose versus what
[2:05:59] portion of the 61 million is
[2:06:02] what we might call general fund
[2:06:04] discretionary dollars. And so
[2:06:08] I'm just concerned that we have
[2:06:10] this vague position that it's
[2:06:13] not in the budget, but we still
[2:06:16] have $61 million sitting in a
[2:06:19] bank account itemized for this
[2:06:21] particular project. So if that
[2:06:22] project is not moving forward,
[2:06:25] then why are we keeping $61
[2:06:27] million in a bank account for
[2:06:28] this project? When we have so
[2:06:31] many other needs?
[2:06:32] >>michelle aguirre: supervisor,
[2:06:38] I would defer to kim for the
[2:06:41] specifics of the total amount.
[2:06:45] However, for particular/27, the
[2:06:47] monies mentioned previously are
[2:06:50] (Ab) 109-related fundings. That
[2:06:51] money is one-time growth money.
[2:06:53] It's not an ongoing funding
[2:06:54] source, so we would not use that
[2:06:58] for ongoing costs. And it is
[2:07:03] also restricted to -- I guess,
[2:07:05] whatever the community
[2:07:07] corrections partnership
[2:07:10] determines the use should be.
[2:07:13] So the ccp has to approve use of
[2:07:16] those monies, and then that
[2:07:18] comes to the board. But the
[2:07:21] board does not have the
[2:07:23] authority to reallocate those
[2:07:26] monies per statute. And I don't
[2:07:29] know on the remaining portion if
[2:07:31] there's any different funding
[2:07:34] source. Kim oana, I would defer
[2:07:36] to you related to that, or if
[2:07:40] that's not even part of your
[2:07:41] 26/27 budget
[2:07:41] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[2:07:42] because that's why I asked for
[2:07:46] the breakdown, because doing it
[2:07:48] up here on the dais, it does get
[2:07:50] complicated. And (Ab) 109
[2:07:52] funding we use for a variety of
[2:07:56] things. We pay for staff with
[2:07:59] (Ab) 109 funding. We pay for
[2:08:03] the realignment money. We pay
[2:08:04] for things with
[2:08:06] >>michelle aguirre: yeah. With
[2:08:07] the (Ab) 109 monies, there's an
[2:08:09] ongoing funding source but
[2:08:10] there's also a growth component.
[2:08:12] So the growth component is
[2:08:14] one-time moneys that we use for
[2:08:16] one-time costs. So that's the
[2:08:18] difference, supervisor. But you
[2:08:21] are correct, there is an ongoing
[2:08:23] (Ab) 109-related funding source,
[2:08:25] and that allocation of funding
[2:08:27] goes to the departments to cover
[2:08:29] ongoing costs. But not this
[2:08:31] component of (Ab) 109
[2:08:32] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[2:08:33] understood. But as has been
[2:08:35] explained to us multiple times
[2:08:38] is that we have a bit of a
[2:08:40] budget hit this year and next
[2:08:42] year because of a lot of the
[2:08:43] changes that have been made at
[2:08:45] the federal government cutting
[2:08:47] our funding, that flows to the
[2:08:48] state. The state then cutting
[2:08:52] our funding, and so we're trying
[2:08:58] to correct for those budget
[2:09:00] losses. Then the budget smooths
[2:09:02] out, as we get into the later
[2:09:05] years. And then we have the
[2:09:08] situation as it relates to the
[2:09:09] retirement plan being fully
[2:09:14] funded as we get into 2030, 31,
[2:09:18] 32, and that's $229 million
[2:09:19] coming into the county coffers
[2:09:21] that we don't have right now
[2:09:23] because we sent that money over
[2:09:25] to ocers. Annually
[2:09:27] . So I'm just trying to figure
[2:09:28] out, I know you're calling it
[2:09:30] bun-time fund ising so we --
[2:09:32] within-time funding so we can't
[2:09:34] use it for staffing but we have
[2:09:36] a one-time need right now
[2:09:38] because we're in a current
[2:09:52] budget difficulty. So how are
[2:09:55] we allocating the funding that's
[2:09:55] in that line item for that
[2:09:56] project that it appears we are
[2:10:02] not moving forward on? It's $61
[2:10:04] million. I got the number, $61
[2:10:06] million, from the response that
[2:10:08] was written for the board
[2:10:11] related to the harvey roe's memo
[2:10:13] that the labor unions gave to
[2:10:16] us. That's where it says it's
[2:10:17] $61 million. There's a
[2:10:21] sentence -- there's a graph in
[2:10:25] there.
[2:10:26] >>chair, doug chaffee: do we
[2:10:28] have a further response from
[2:10:29] staff that helped put this
[2:10:34] together? Okay. Go ahead.
[2:10:37] >>speaker: yeah, so the crc
[2:10:40] project is $21 million in the
[2:10:43] budget, but also we borrowed $42
[2:10:44] million to fund the airport fire
[2:10:47] that we need to pay back.
[2:10:48] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: hold
[2:10:50] on. I'm going to stop you right
[2:10:53] there. Sorry to interrupt, but
[2:10:54] in the document that was given
[2:10:59] to the board related to
[2:11:02] responding to ocea because they
[2:11:03] were saying, how come all this
[2:11:05] money is in this reserve
[2:11:07] account, right? What was
[2:11:10] provided to us was an analysis
[2:11:12] of how much money is in each of
[2:11:14] the reserve accounts and what
[2:11:16] the projects were that it was
[2:11:19] funding. I understand that only
[2:11:21] $21 million is earmarked for
[2:11:23] this year in the budget. That's
[2:11:25] not what I'm saying. I'm saying
[2:11:30] it's a total of $61 million.
[2:11:32] That is for phase 1 and phase 2,
[2:11:33] that's in a bank account
[2:11:34] somewhere. That's what I'm
[2:11:37] trying to understand, if we have
[2:11:40] $61 million sitting in a bank
[2:11:42] account somewhere for a project
[2:11:44] that we are not moving forward
[2:11:46] on, why are we not reallocating
[2:11:48] those funds?
[2:11:50] >>speaker: we do not have $61
[2:11:51] million
[2:11:51] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: then
[2:11:53] why does it say that in the
[2:11:53] letter?
[2:11:54] >>speaker: it's a timing issue
[2:11:56] with the repayment for the funds
[2:11:59] that were used for the fire
[2:12:01] >>michelle aguirre: so,
[2:12:02] supervisor, if you recall, we
[2:12:04] had to transfer -- we
[2:12:05] transferred $50 million out of
[2:12:08] our capital project fund over to
[2:12:10] our risk management fund to be
[2:12:12] able to begin make the
[2:12:13] settlement payments related to
[2:12:18] the airport fire. So unless
[2:12:20] there's a way that we get
[2:12:21] reimbursed related to the
[2:12:23] airport fire, we don't actually
[2:12:25] have fire in our capital project
[2:12:27] fund for that phase 2.
[2:12:29] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
[2:12:30] So that memo needs to be
[2:12:32] updated to reflect that
[2:12:36] >>speaker: the harvey rose study
[2:12:37] that we're referencing and the
[2:12:38] dollars that were in there were
[2:12:47] based off of the 24/25akfer and
[2:12:48] the borrowing happens
[2:12:52] subsequently after that.
[2:12:52] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: we're
[2:12:54] trying to?Obd a way so that we
[2:12:56] all have the same information.
[2:12:56] We don't have the information
[2:12:58] that you have because we're not
[2:13:01] sitting at your computer digging
[2:13:02] down into all of the different
[2:13:04] accounts, and we rely on you to
[2:13:06] tell us the full picture, and
[2:13:08] then when we get a memo that
[2:13:10] only has a piece of the full
[2:13:12] picture because there's another
[2:13:14] piece to it, it gets things to
[2:13:16] be confused. So we need to have
[2:13:18] a full understanding, even if
[2:13:20] the point in time -- and I know
[2:13:23] this is, you know -- this is
[2:13:26] partly a -- an accountant-type
[2:13:27] of way of thinking, right?
[2:13:29] You're looking at it from a
[2:13:32] point in time. So you stop
[2:13:33] looking at the whole picture
[2:13:34] because you're just looking at
[2:13:35] this window of time. But we
[2:13:36] need to see the whole picture
[2:13:38] because we're trying to figure
[2:13:40] out where the money is. Okay.
[2:13:41] So you're saying $21 million is
[2:13:45] what we have. Okay. So my same
[2:13:47] question still applies. Of the
[2:13:50] $21 million, how much of the $21
[2:13:52] million -- it's my word is
[2:13:54] probably the wrong legal term of
[2:13:56] art, but how much of it is
[2:13:56] flexible?
[2:13:59] >>speaker: zero. The $21
[2:14:02] million for the ccp committee
[2:14:05] back in '22 -- approved back in
[2:14:08] '22, so this board can either
[2:14:09] approve or not approve the
[2:14:11] allocation of
[2:14:13] of the (Ab) 109
[2:14:15] funds and in that year that
[2:14:16] allocation was approved. This
[2:14:19] year in the budget we have the
[2:14:21] 26/27 allocation, and all of the
[2:14:23] funds anticipated are fully
[2:14:24] allocated after the departments
[2:14:26] by a percentage.
[2:14:27] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
[2:14:30] I'm not sure I understand that
[2:14:33] response. The $21 million, that
[2:14:35] is earmarked in the budget for
[2:14:38] this re-entry project --
[2:14:41] >>speaker: was approved in 2022
[2:14:44] for the 21/22 budget as
[2:14:46] recommended by the ccp
[2:14:48] committee. So the board either
[2:14:50] can -- has the authority to
[2:14:52] either approve the allocation
[2:14:55] that the ccp committee brings
[2:14:57] forth or not approve. So that
[2:15:00] allocation was approved. So to
[2:15:04] go back, we'd have to go back to
[2:15:04] the ccp. They'll have to
[2:15:08] approve or rescind the whole
[2:15:10] allocation. They'd have to go
[2:15:10] back to the committee and then
[2:15:12] come back to the board
[2:15:12] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
[2:15:14] I just want to make sure I
[2:15:16] understand if. So the $21
[2:15:17] million that is earmarked for
[2:15:19] this project, that it appears
[2:15:21] that we are not moving forward
[2:15:23] on, cannot be used for anything
[2:15:24] other than the project that we
[2:15:27] appear to not be moving forward
[2:15:28] on; is that right?
[2:15:29] >>speaker: right
[2:15:30] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: so
[2:15:31] what steps need to be taken so
[2:15:33] that that funding can get
[2:15:35] applied to a different project?
[2:15:37] Like we have the tay housing
[2:15:39] project with the workforce
[2:15:41] program over in orange. Is it
[2:15:43] possible to move the funds over
[2:15:45] to there to ask for that to
[2:15:46] happen
[2:15:49] >>speaker: the (Ab) 109 funds
[2:15:50] governed by the community
[2:15:51] correction partnership, so we'd
[2:15:53] have to go back to the community
[2:15:54] correction partnership and they
[2:15:56] cannot be used for juveniles
[2:15:57] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
[2:15:58] Good to know. So that's the
[2:16:00] procedure, though, is to make an
[2:16:03] application to this other
[2:16:04] agency. This is a state
[2:16:05] agency?
[2:16:06] >>speaker: no. This is the
[2:16:08] orange county --
[2:16:08] >>speaker:
[2:16:09] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: oh,
[2:16:10] it's our agency
[2:16:13] >>speaker: it meets before the
[2:16:14] jjcc meetings that you used to
[2:16:14] attend
[2:16:16] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
[2:16:19] So why didn't we just do that?
[2:16:20] I don't understand schaifs
[2:16:22] that's not part of this
[2:16:23] proceeding. This is the budget.
[2:16:24] And if you want to take
[2:16:26] subsequent action, you could ask
[2:16:26] for that.
[2:16:27] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[2:16:29] that's what I'm asking. What is
[2:16:29] the procedure
[2:16:30] >>michelle aguirre: I think,
[2:16:33] supervisor, what the county and
[2:16:33] staff have committed to, and I
[2:16:35] did send the communication to
[2:16:38] the city of santa ana late
[2:16:44] yesterday, I do admit late. But
[2:16:49] that -- that the project is not
[2:16:51] approved by the board to move
[2:16:53] forward. Today's action, just
[2:16:54] adoption of the budget, does not
[2:16:58] move that project forward. And
[2:16:59] county staff are happy to work
[2:17:05] with the community, the city the
[2:17:07] current site is our youth
[2:17:09] guidance center for at least a
[2:17:11] couple more years. So it's
[2:17:12] not -- this is not something
[2:17:15] that is, I would say, urge
[2:17:17] negligent nature. Just based on
[2:17:19] the budget adoption today. But
[2:17:20] in the communication to the
[2:17:23] city, I did indicate and had
[2:17:28] already reached out to mayor
[2:17:30] masqua a couple of times. Happy
[2:17:31] to schedule that meeting with
[2:17:33] the city and also have that
[2:17:35] community meeting. Based on the
[2:17:36] communications that I have seen
[2:17:40] related to this topic, there's a
[2:17:43] lot of inaccurate information
[2:17:44] out there in the community as it
[2:17:46] relates to what the proposed
[2:17:48] project is. So we would
[2:17:50] actually love to have the
[2:17:52] opportunity to meet with the
[2:17:54] city and the community to
[2:17:55] clarify and provide accurate
[2:17:58] information as to what the
[2:17:59] project would be, if the board
[2:18:01] even approves us to move forward
[2:18:05] with it. And so it is important
[2:18:08] that we have that opportunity to
[2:18:10] be over the next, you know, few
[2:18:11] months, six months, whatever.
[2:18:14] Be able to have those meetings
[2:18:15] and to communicate and hear from
[2:18:17] the public. So, but today's
[2:18:21] vote on the budget does not
[2:18:21] approve the project or commit us
[2:18:22] to it.
[2:18:24] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[2:18:25] you for that clarification. And
[2:18:28] I don't want us to get into like
[2:18:29] the merits of the project
[2:18:32] per se. My comments and
[2:18:33] questions really are more about
[2:18:36] the process of understanding
[2:18:39] where the money is maintained
[2:18:41] and how flexible the accounts
[2:18:43] are and how do we access the
[2:18:45] funds to be able to pay for
[2:18:46] operational needs? And so that
[2:18:50] is where I'm still -- I feet
[2:18:55] like we -- it just trickles in,
[2:18:57] the information. It's a
[2:18:59] complicated county system in
[2:19:02] terms of the budget and all of
[2:19:04] the different accounts and
[2:19:05] reserves and mandates. And so
[2:19:07] it's really important that we
[2:19:10] have full transparency on where
[2:19:12] the money is. How much money is
[2:19:13] in each of the accounts? You
[2:19:15] and I talked about this before.
[2:19:18] We talked about like the
[2:19:18] tidelands accounts as an
[2:19:20] example. You can't see it in
[2:19:22] this year's budget, how much
[2:19:22] money is in each of the
[2:19:25] accounts. And so I'd like us --
[2:19:26] when we move forward with next
[2:19:29] year's budget, we need to figure
[2:19:31] out how to advance a budget
[2:19:33] where we can actually see what
[2:19:34] is in the bank account. Not
[2:19:37] just see what is budgeted for
[2:19:39] the operational year for the
[2:19:41] year. So those are my comments.
[2:19:42] Thank you for all of the hard
[2:19:44] work. It's a challenging time,
[2:19:45] and we appreciate all the hard
[2:19:48] work. My priority with this
[2:19:50] budget and as we continue with
[2:19:52] our bargaining is that we not
[2:19:54] have any layoffs, that we
[2:19:57] maintain our workforce so we can
[2:19:59] continue to provide excellent
[2:20:00] services to the community and
[2:20:03] that we figure out how to get
[2:20:06] through what I see as a bridge
[2:20:07] time period. Thank you
[2:20:08] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[2:20:08] supervisor nguyen
[2:20:11] >>janet nguyen: thank you,
[2:20:14] MR. CHAIRMAN. I wanted to ask
[2:20:20] the ceo a question. Sorry. I
[2:20:21] wanted to ask the ceo the
[2:20:23] question, but she's
[2:20:25] communicating with county
[2:20:28] counsel. I just -- okay. So I
[2:20:32] know there's folks who are here,
[2:20:35] including mayor amess came,
[2:20:38] who's here to speak, regarding
[2:20:41] item 64, I know it's a little
[2:20:46] confusion because there's too
[2:21:01] items we're currently looking at
[2:21:02] allocating the money to move
[2:21:04] forward with a plan. If we
[2:21:06] don't support that today, when
[2:21:08] with comes back to the board for
[2:21:10] a program in the future, it
[2:21:16] would require 4/5th votes for
[2:21:22] that to pass. I know, MADAM
[2:21:40] Ceo. You mentioned it -- is the
[2:21:42] allocation made to this specific
[2:21:45] project at this address in the
[2:21:45] funding?
[2:21:47] >>michelle aguirre: no, the
[2:21:49] moneys are bugged in our capital
[2:21:52] project budget. But there's no
[2:21:54] authority for us to spend the
[2:21:55] money, right. That would
[2:21:58] require a completely separate
[2:21:59] agenda item in the future for
[2:21:59] the forward about consider.
[2:22:00] Separate, not just as part of
[2:22:07] this budget.
[2:22:08] >>janet nguyen: what if an
[2:22:10] allocation is made but then a
[2:22:12] different location is identified
[2:22:12] later
[2:22:13] >>michelle aguirre: it still
[2:22:14] requires separate board
[2:22:14] approval
[2:22:15] >>janet nguyen: and I agree, and
[2:22:18] I appreciate your comments and
[2:22:18] the letter you sent to the city
[2:22:22] and to the mayor, I want to make
[2:22:25] sure from my side that please do
[2:22:27] work with the city of santa ana
[2:22:32] and the mayor to -- if we are
[2:22:33] going to move forward about
[2:22:34] anywhere, whether it's santa ana
[2:22:36] or we're going to go to another
[2:22:37] city, we need work with the
[2:22:39] communities to making sure they
[2:22:41] understand that if there is a
[2:22:43] potential identification of a
[2:22:44] location for this program, we
[2:22:48] need to work with them, moving
[2:22:53] forward after 2028. Because the
[2:22:58] current program is still there.
[2:22:58] 2027?
[2:22:59] >>michelle aguirre: well, my
[2:23:01] understanding is it's like the
[2:23:03] middle of 2028. This is not
[2:23:05] anything that, like I said, is
[2:23:07] urgent or in the very near
[2:23:08] future
[2:23:08] >>janet nguyen: perfect. Thank
[2:23:10] you. So I want folks who are
[2:23:12] here, who are going to speak on
[2:23:14] item 64, to understand why
[2:23:17] you're hearing the conversation
[2:23:19] of the re-entry program and the
[2:23:19] budgeting and et cetera, and
[2:23:21] that's why you're hearing that.
[2:23:24] But when you get to 64, you
[2:23:26] know, which is an item just to
[2:23:26] approve the contract, the
[2:23:28] current contract, the funding
[2:23:32] for it, to continue into 2027,
[2:23:34] an allocation for their
[2:23:35] workforce re-entry service that
[2:23:40] is currently ongoing, that is at
[2:23:41] that location, but this does not
[2:23:43] commit us to the capital
[2:23:43] improvement
[2:23:44] >>michelle aguirre: different
[2:23:49] location. So 64 -- it's for
[2:23:51] orange, and it's a completely
[2:23:53] different project.
[2:23:54] >>janet nguyen: so if that's the
[2:23:57] case, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ask us
[2:24:00] to -- I know that the folks here
[2:24:02] from santa ana did not know that
[2:24:03] that's a different item. I
[2:24:06] didn't either until now. Would
[2:24:09] you allow them to go ahead and
[2:24:10] speak? Because it is part of
[2:24:12] the budget that they're really
[2:24:13] here for
[2:24:14] >>speaker: they MAY come back at
[2:24:16] public comments. The rules we
[2:24:18] have, you must ask in advance
[2:24:20] >>janet nguyen: but I think,
[2:24:22] MR. CHAIRMAN, if possible, I
[2:24:23] think they've been here since
[2:24:26] this morning, and I think maybe
[2:24:27] if we can waive that rule
[2:24:29] because I think it's -- it was
[2:24:31] very confusing. I think it
[2:24:33] would be much appreciated just
[2:24:34] to allow each of them the 1
[2:24:36] minute that we allow all the
[2:24:37] others who spoke on the budget
[2:24:39] item because there's a confusion
[2:24:40] between the two items
[2:24:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: my answer
[2:24:42] is no. That is the order of the
[2:24:44] day. If you wish to have board
[2:24:47] members vote on, that we can do
[2:24:50] that. You want to make a
[2:24:50] motion?
[2:24:51] >>janet nguyen: if possible, I
[2:24:54] would make the motion to waive
[2:24:56] and allow folks who are here to
[2:24:57] speak on the budget of the
[2:25:00] re-entry program to be able to
[2:25:06] speak at this time, 1 minute
[2:25:07] each.
[2:25:08] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there
[2:25:10] a second to that motion
[2:25:11] >>vincente sarmiento: I'll
[2:25:12] second the motion
[2:25:14] >>chair, doug chaffee: MADAM
[2:25:19] Clerk, would you call the roll
[2:25:22] [Calling roll]
[2:25:24] >>chair, doug chaffee: the
[2:25:26] motion carries. All right. And
[2:25:28] so you need to first fill out
[2:25:30] speaker form, whoever wants to
[2:25:36] speak, and how many do we have?
[2:25:37] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: they
[2:25:39] don't have that many speakers.
[2:25:41] Maybe people can consolidate for
[2:25:42] the interest of time. I think
[2:25:44] we got the message, but we want
[2:25:46] to hear from you.
[2:25:47] >>clerk, robin stieler: we have
[2:25:52] a total of 11 speakers.
[2:25:54] >>janet nguyen: since we're kind
[2:25:55] of trying to find out who the
[2:25:57] folks are because of the mix-up
[2:25:59] of the items, you can maybe just
[2:26:00] stand and get in line and just
[2:26:03] read your name, because if
[2:26:04] you've already had a speaker
[2:26:06] form, I think, we would have
[2:26:17] your information already. So --
[2:26:17] so ----
[2:26:20] >>leon page: MR. Chair, are the
[2:26:22] speakers from the city, are they
[2:26:23] speaking on the budget item or
[2:26:23] on item 64
[2:26:25] >>janet nguyen: it would be on
[2:26:26] the budget item
[2:26:27] >>chair, doug chaffee: speaking
[2:26:28] of the budget, it's part of
[2:26:28] that --
[2:26:29] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[2:26:30] because 64 is a different topic
[2:26:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: funding
[2:26:35] for future use of the re-entry
[2:26:35] center
[2:26:36] >>speaker: first of all, I want
[2:26:38] to thank the board for allowing
[2:26:41] us to speak. I'm valerie mess
[2:26:42] came, the mayor the city of
[2:26:44] santa ana. I would like to ask
[2:26:46] is that in the future, thank
[2:26:47] you, michelle aguirre for
[2:26:49] sending the letter yesterday. I
[2:26:50] would like to ask that you allow
[2:26:53] the city of santa ana to be at
[2:26:59] the table when this discussion
[2:27:01] occurs, have a community forum
[2:27:02] because it is very important.
[2:27:05] The location of 3030 hesperian
[2:27:06] way has been cleaned up by the
[2:27:08] city of santa ana, addressing
[2:27:09] the homeless issue. Our santa
[2:27:13] ana police department has done a
[2:27:15] phenomenal job and so we deserve
[2:27:16] the stiff santa ana a great
[2:27:17] quality of life just like the 34
[2:27:20] other cities in orange county.
[2:27:21] And so thank you very much for
[2:27:22] all of the support that you all
[2:27:36] have provided. And I would just
[2:27:38] ask that you invite us to the
[2:27:40] table. We are the bearers of
[2:27:41] everything. Thank you for
[2:27:43] allowing us to speak today, but
[2:27:44] please understand that we want
[2:27:45] to be at table and have this
[2:27:46] discussion with you. I do as
[2:27:49] the mayor because I represent my
[2:27:51] entire city, and it's what's
[2:27:52] best for all of us. We want the
[2:27:53] same quality of life for our
[2:27:55] families, our children. Thank
[2:27:55] you so very much
[2:27:56] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[2:27:58] you. How many more speakers do
[2:28:01] we have on this?
[2:28:02] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: and
[2:28:03] if the speakers want to say a
[2:28:07] "me too," that would be really
[2:28:08] welcome.
[2:28:09] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay
[2:28:11] >>speaker: good morning.
[2:28:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: did you
[2:28:15] fill out the speaker forms,
[2:28:15] please
[2:28:17] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes, she
[2:28:18] did
[2:28:19] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay. Go
[2:28:20] ahead
[2:28:22] >>speaker: martha molina, with
[2:28:23] the riverview neighborhood
[2:28:24] association. I placed this list
[2:28:28] on your -- I don't know if I can
[2:28:30] do this. Okay. Great. So two
[2:28:32] weeks ago I came and we will a
[2:28:33] letter signed by eight
[2:28:35] neighborhoods. Today we have a
[2:28:36] letter signed by 23
[2:28:37] neighborhoods. They're listed
[2:28:41] there, we work very hard, as
[2:28:42] we've let you know, since the
[2:28:48] mayor valerie mezcal goss --
[2:28:49] amezcua meets with us every
[2:28:50] month for the last four years.
[2:28:52] We still have issues. This is
[2:28:54] the graffiti in my neighborhood.
[2:28:56] Three walls were hit this
[2:28:57] weekend. We couldn't get them
[2:29:00] cleaned until monday. We have
[2:29:01] million-dollar homes there.
[2:29:02] We're very proud of it. We work
[2:29:04] very hard. And as we celebrate
[2:29:06] the freedom of america, you
[2:29:10] know, we need occlusion, we
[2:29:12] need -- we need inclusion, we
[2:29:13] need participation, and I read
[2:29:15] that the state funds require
[2:29:16] community outreach. We
[2:29:17] appreciate your attention.
[2:29:19] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[2:29:20] you.
[2:29:20] >>speaker: good morning. My
[2:29:22] name is danny vega. I don't
[2:29:24] even know what to say with all
[2:29:25] of this confusion. I'm just a
[2:29:28] father with four daughters and I
[2:29:29] was going to come here to speak
[2:29:32] against the center because, you
[2:29:33] know, santa ana, it seems like
[2:29:35] the county is always putting
[2:29:37] these programs in our city, and
[2:29:42] I think it's really unfair. And
[2:29:44] it's really disheartening. It
[2:29:45] feels like there's this aura in
[2:29:48] the room that nobody wants to
[2:29:50] hear senior residents out.
[2:29:51] I went back to listen to the
[2:29:55] MARCH 27th, 2018 meeting when
[2:29:59] there was a plan to put homeless
[2:30:01] tents around certain cities.
[2:30:03] And the residents that went out
[2:30:05] there to speak out against it,
[2:30:06] to say the exact sale thing that
[2:30:09] I was going to say, we're
[2:30:10] treated much, much better. They
[2:30:11] even had apologies from the
[2:30:12] board. But when it comes to
[2:30:15] santa ana, it almost seems like
[2:30:16] our kids don't matter. And it's
[2:30:17] really sad
[2:30:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[2:30:24] you, sir.
[2:30:28] >>speaker: chair, council,
[2:30:30] supervisors, dale, 36-year
[2:30:31] resident of santa ana. I was
[2:30:33] here again to speak on the
[2:30:34] issue, the re-entry program.
[2:30:36] There is a lot of confusion
[2:30:38] between 64 and 94. So I'm glad
[2:30:39] you guys cleared that up, that
[2:30:41] the project is not approved.
[2:30:42] And I implore you to make sure
[2:30:45] that you have community outreach
[2:30:47] to whoever is going to be
[2:30:49] impacted by this re-entry
[2:30:51] project. It's very important
[2:30:53] that the transparency is there,
[2:30:55] and it's also important that
[2:30:57] other cities are included in the
[2:30:58] discussion instead of just
[2:31:01] always including santa ana
[2:31:03] because it's a county seat. So
[2:31:05] i hope that you keep that in
[2:31:07] mind when it comes to -- in
[2:31:08] front of you later on, whether
[2:31:10] it's this year or next year or
[2:31:11] whenever. Thank you
[2:31:12] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[2:31:18] you, sir.
[2:31:20] >>speaker: carl bener, also a
[2:31:21] resident of santa ana. I wore
[2:31:23] my red wing jersey so that
[2:31:26] vincent could recognize me. But
[2:31:28] just support also. I see a need
[2:31:30] for the re-entry program, but we
[2:31:33] need to talk to the communities.
[2:31:33] You need to involve the
[2:31:34] communities and talk to where it
[2:31:39] is and really keep it out of the
[2:31:41] highly residential-built cities.
[2:31:42] Because, though it will help
[2:31:43] many people get back to a normal
[2:31:46] life, there are some that will
[2:31:49] just use the steppingstone. I'm
[2:31:50] glad we are hearing this
[2:31:51] conversation today. Please
[2:31:53] include the local cities in the
[2:31:54] discussions where you are going
[2:31:56] to locate it. And supervisor
[2:31:58] nguyen, welcome back to the
[2:31:59] board. I appreciate you being
[2:32:03] here. Thank you.
[2:32:04] >>speaker: good afternoon. My
[2:32:05] name is melissa and I'm a
[2:32:11] resident of santa ana. I'm here
[2:32:12] to support -- the re-entry in
[2:32:16] the city of santa ana because we
[2:32:17] and the mayor has been working
[2:32:19] very hard on cleaning up our
[2:32:21] city and making it a better
[2:32:22] place. We have government
[2:32:24] buildings here that we have
[2:32:28] people in all types of -- all
[2:32:29] types of representatives coming
[2:32:31] to our city. Our goal is to not
[2:32:34] have our city look worse or have
[2:32:37] any more homeless or anything
[2:32:39] like that. It does not make us
[2:32:40] look better or represent our
[2:32:42] city. For the last couple of
[2:32:47] years, it's been a misfire. But
[2:32:48] there's been a great job on
[2:32:51] removing presentable first
[2:32:52] street by the 5 freeway,
[2:32:54] cleaning up that whole area.
[2:32:57] And in regards to our children,
[2:32:58] I'm sure none of you would want
[2:33:00] to have a problem like that in
[2:33:04] your city. So if you could
[2:33:07] please consider that when you
[2:33:09] have your meeting for that.
[2:33:17] Thank you.
[2:33:18] >>speaker: good morning. Victor
[2:33:21] mendez, PRESIDENT Of the zoo
[2:33:21] district neighborhood
[2:33:23] association. I wanted to
[2:33:24] reiterate what mayor amezcua
[2:33:26] said about we're a welcoming
[2:33:28] community. My own neighborhood
[2:33:29] on east first street up to four
[2:33:32] years ago was horrendous. We
[2:33:35] were infested with homelessness,
[2:33:36] transient, prostitutes, drug
[2:33:37] addicts. The city invested
[2:33:38] millions of dollars, the
[2:33:41] community invested a lot of time
[2:33:43] and the place is now civil. And
[2:33:46] home to many people including
[2:33:47] afghan refugees. We are very
[2:33:50] happy to have them and we've
[2:33:52] done a lot of work to keep
[2:33:53] things safe and secure in these
[2:33:55] times. So as far as I'm
[2:33:58] concerned, I'm just too old to
[2:34:01] pay for the same real estate.
[2:34:03] I don't want to see it happen
[2:34:05] again. I don't want to go out
[2:34:07] there at night patrolling, so
[2:34:08] please do what you can to make
[2:34:09] the situation safe and secure
[2:34:16] for everybody. Thank you.
[2:34:19] >>clerk, robin stieler: the
[2:34:21] remaining four speakers are
[2:34:22] still scheduled to speak on 64
[2:34:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: are there
[2:34:25] any more speakers?
[2:34:29] >>clerk, robin stieler: no.
[2:34:30] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[2:34:32] right. We're back here, and I
[2:34:33] see supervisor sarmiento. Do
[2:34:35] you have any further comments
[2:34:36] >>vincente sarmiento: yeah.
[2:34:38] Just a final comment on the
[2:34:40] breast-feeding L.A. To say that
[2:34:43] we have a meeting with their
[2:34:45] team and we'll continue to work
[2:34:47] with first five. I'm the
[2:34:49] vice-chair on that board. We
[2:34:50] know how important this program
[2:34:53] is. We'll find a way to work
[2:34:55] with hca and make sure that we
[2:34:57] come to some conclusion on that.
[2:34:58] To the city, and thank you for
[2:35:00] those of you who spoke on this
[2:35:02] item, I know there might have
[2:35:02] been some confusion. The
[2:35:04] re-entry word doesn't apply just
[2:35:06] to this. There's a whole campus
[2:35:07] that's being developed in the
[2:35:10] city of orange. And I think the
[2:35:11] ground-break something tomorrow.
[2:35:14] And it involves the
[2:35:16] transitional-aged youth that
[2:35:19] will have a new campus and a new
[2:35:20] workforce re-entry on the front
[2:35:23] end. And that will be item 64.
[2:35:25] So, you know, I know that the
[2:35:26] titles were confusing, but to
[2:35:29] the extent that I believe the
[2:35:32] ceo was able to send out a
[2:35:34] letter -- thank you, MADAM Ceo,
[2:35:35] for sending that letter out --
[2:35:37] last night to the city manager.
[2:35:38] I know we were on the phone with
[2:35:39] the city manager letting him
[2:35:41] know that the ceo was working on
[2:35:42] this, just to clear things up in
[2:35:44] advance. But I think your point
[2:35:45] was well received. Thank you
[2:35:47] for hosting a community meeting
[2:35:49] that I attended last week where
[2:35:51] I made my position clear on
[2:35:52] this. So I want to thank the
[2:35:55] staff. And I do believe that,
[2:35:56] to the extent that the program
[2:35:58] is a good program, and that's
[2:36:01] something I think everybody
[2:36:02] said. It's site location that's
[2:36:04] the tricky part of any programs
[2:36:05] like this. So to the extent
[2:36:07] there's advance work, wasn't a
[2:36:08] program to be successful and
[2:36:10] embraced by not only the city,
[2:36:12] but the surrounding neighborhood
[2:36:15] and businesses that -- where it
[2:36:17] will be located. I want to
[2:36:19] thank the ceo and her team for,
[2:36:21] you know, re-evaluating and
[2:36:23] making sure that we do things in
[2:36:25] a way that everybody can be
[2:36:27] proud of, you know, what will
[2:36:29] be, I think, a great system of
[2:36:31] oc cares, that she's worked on
[2:36:33] for many, many years. I think
[2:36:36] this whole idea of oc cares
[2:36:38] began back in 2019. So we know
[2:36:40] a big significant piece is going
[2:36:41] to be tomorrow when that ground
[2:36:43] is broken in the city of orange
[2:36:46] and that's the kind of work that
[2:36:48] I think you are -- you know, we
[2:36:49] are very proud of your efforts
[2:36:52] in that. And that's the way we
[2:36:54] should move forward. With that,
[2:36:55] MR. Chair, those are my
[2:36:56] comments. Thank you for the
[2:36:56] time
[2:36:57] >>chair, doug chaffee: any other
[2:36:59] comments? Well, I need to kind
[2:37:03] of speak on the re-entry center
[2:37:04] myself. I'm going to go back a
[2:37:07] ways. When I first came on this
[2:37:09] board that was almost eight
[2:37:11] years ago, and one of the
[2:37:12] committees I was assigned to was
[2:37:15] the orange county criminal
[2:37:16] justice coordinating council.
[2:37:18] And I remember first walking
[2:37:20] into that meeting. I looked
[2:37:23] around. Who are all these
[2:37:25] people? We had the three
[2:37:28] presiding judges present from
[2:37:30] each of our court systems,
[2:37:32] MR. Spitzer, the D.A. Was there,
[2:37:35] the public defender was there,
[2:37:36] the head of the probation
[2:37:39] department was present, we had
[2:37:40] health care representatives
[2:37:43] there, and we had of course our
[2:37:45] ceo present as well as financial
[2:37:47] people. The homeless liaison
[2:37:50] was there. We were all doing --
[2:37:51] we were coordinating these
[2:37:54] different kinds of departments
[2:37:56] that sometimes were isolate
[2:37:57] expiemed of like silos and
[2:37:59] putting it all together. Not
[2:38:02] only, that we developed a bunch
[2:38:03] of pillars. One of those
[2:38:04] pillars is the release of
[2:38:07] inmates who observed their term,
[2:38:09] who we wanted to help them so
[2:38:12] they don't go back to a life of
[2:38:14] crime, we call that the re-entry
[2:38:16] center. This is kind of the
[2:38:20] culmination lasting really need
[2:38:23] to make that plan work. And if
[2:38:24] you look at our jail population,
[2:38:26] it's not nearly what it was. I
[2:38:28] think we're doing a great job
[2:38:29] reducing the amount of crime.
[2:38:32] So this is a place that's hard
[2:38:35] to find -- it's hard to find a
[2:38:36] place. It's done a great job
[2:38:39] with juveniles. So much so that
[2:38:41] this place MAY not be needed for
[2:38:42] that purpose anymore. Where is
[2:38:45] it? It's bounded by the flight
[2:38:45] control channel and freeways,
[2:38:48] and it's gated. It's not near
[2:38:50] any home or any type of threat.
[2:38:52] So what this is doing is
[2:38:55] reducing the possibility of
[2:38:57] crime into our county. And if
[2:38:59] we didn't have this kind of
[2:39:01] center, where would these people
[2:39:03] go? I dare say many of them
[2:39:05] would be on the streets of santa
[2:39:07] ana unsupervised. And this is
[2:39:09] not anything that's secret.
[2:39:11] It's been there a long time.
[2:39:13] We've had chiefs of police in
[2:39:14] santa ana serving on this board.
[2:39:17] I have a chief of a large city
[2:39:19] and one small as well on this
[2:39:20] board. And it's been a major
[2:39:24] effort to get to this point.
[2:39:25] And my view is I want to thank
[2:39:27] our ceo as part her legacy that
[2:39:30] we've come this far. She's done
[2:39:31] a tremendous job in helping this
[2:39:33] go forward. It's very important
[2:39:35] that this last component be
[2:39:38] completed. And I don't
[2:39:39] don't
[2:39:41] know where the right place would
[2:39:43] be, although, this has got more
[2:39:45] barriers around it than any
[2:39:46] other that I've seen. It's
[2:39:48] pretty unusual that you can find
[2:39:51] a place like that. Whenever it
[2:39:52] is, it's going to reduce crime
[2:39:54] in the area that it is situated
[2:39:56] in. So as the chair, which I
[2:39:58] have been for several years, the
[2:40:02] oc c jcc, as we call it, I know
[2:40:05] how important this is. I'm
[2:40:07] hoping we can launch it before I
[2:40:10] leave the board here. I don't
[2:40:16] see any more comments. And so
[2:40:17] with the suggestion change that
[2:40:20] we delete 4a on this department
[2:40:23] of conditions thing, and I think
[2:40:28] we've taken care of the dna
[2:40:30] staff I think it's otherwise
[2:40:31] appropriate to simply move the
[2:40:32] budget as been presented
[2:40:33] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
[2:40:34] second
[2:40:34] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[2:40:36] right. County counsel a
[2:40:37] comment, as usual.
[2:40:40] >>leon page: I'm sorry,
[2:40:42] MR. CHAIRMAN. I apologize for
[2:40:44] doing this, but I would like to
[2:40:46] discuss specifically your
[2:40:50] proposal to delete from the
[2:40:51] retirement system assistance
[2:40:53] program policy that language in
[2:40:53] 4a
[2:40:55] >>chair, doug chaffee: need a
[2:40:55] separate motion
[2:40:57] >>leon page: no. I just want to
[2:40:58] highlight the legal concerns
[2:40:59] that I have. The purpose of
[2:41:01] this program is to encourage
[2:41:05] voluntary separations. In each
[2:41:06] department can fill every
[2:41:10] position that's vacated and then
[2:41:12] also pays $20,000 to the
[2:41:15] departing employee, without the
[2:41:17] language requiring that the
[2:41:19] positions remain vacant, this
[2:41:21] will backfire on you and you'll
[2:41:23] suddenly have $20,000 hits while
[2:41:24] also paying the salaries of the
[2:41:27] new employees that are hired.
[2:41:30] Now, I do believe that the ceo
[2:41:31] has the existing authority under
[2:41:34] county ordinance to freeze
[2:41:35] vacant positions. Now, the
[2:41:37] board does control the master
[2:41:38] position control, and it's
[2:41:40] through that document, through a
[2:41:42] instrument that the board
[2:41:42] controls the total number of
[2:41:46] positions. But my expectation
[2:41:48] is that if there are employees
[2:41:50] and departments taking advantage
[2:41:52] of this program, that the ceo
[2:41:54] will administratively freeze
[2:41:55] those positions, even if the ceo
[2:41:56] can't delete them because that's
[2:41:58] a board function. Those
[2:41:59] positions will be frozen. I
[2:42:02] think it's important that the
[2:42:03] board understand that, that
[2:42:06] there will still be impacts
[2:42:07] because if the board's intention
[2:42:09] is to fill every position that's
[2:42:10] vacated, then I would recommend
[2:42:13] you not adopt this policy
[2:42:13] because it will make your budget
[2:42:16] situation much worse. My second
[2:42:17] comment is the amount of the
[2:42:18] incentive is not actually
[2:42:19] mentioned in the policy that's
[2:42:22] before you today, and I am
[2:42:23] concerned that, providing the
[2:42:26] ceo with unbounded discretion as
[2:42:27] to the amount of the incentive,
[2:42:29] would be problematic. So I do
[2:42:33] believe in briefing the ceo has
[2:42:35] mentioned a $20,000 payment to
[2:42:41] the health reimbursement account
[2:42:43] account, health retirement
[2:42:45] account. So I would recommend
[2:42:46] that that amount be included and
[2:42:47] I want the board to be aware
[2:42:49] that the ceo does have the
[2:42:50] authority to freeze vacant
[2:42:52] positions and I expect positions
[2:42:53] vacated as a result of this
[2:42:57] program will be frozen. Thank
[2:43:01] you.
[2:43:02] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[2:43:02] vice-chair
[2:43:03] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[2:43:04] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. I appreciate
[2:43:06] those comments. From my
[2:43:07] perspective, the freeze
[2:43:09] something one thing. The
[2:43:10] deleting of the positions is all
[2:43:11] together different, and we do
[2:43:12] have a hiring freeze right now,
[2:43:16] so nothing would change. The
[2:43:17] discretion of the ceo to work
[2:43:19] with the department head to
[2:43:20] determine whether or not that
[2:43:22] position is a necessary position
[2:43:24] needing to be filled would
[2:43:26] continue. But we won't lose the
[2:43:27] positions. We'll gain the
[2:43:28] salary savings because many of
[2:43:30] the individuals in the positions
[2:43:32] are at a much higher salary than
[2:43:36] the rest of the group who might
[2:43:37] take advantage of this. And
[2:43:38] then we also will, as I
[2:43:42] understand it -- we will have a
[2:43:43] savings as it relates to the
[2:43:48] pensions because many of these
[2:43:50] are individuals who are not
[2:43:54] subject to pepra. So the new
[2:43:55] pepra rules are less burdensome
[2:43:57] on the county contribution. So
[2:43:59] I do think that there will be
[2:44:01] savings. I think the hiring
[2:44:02] freeze, I would expect that that
[2:44:04] be continued until we say it's
[2:44:06] not. There's a policy question,
[2:44:08] not really a legal one. And as
[2:44:09] a policy matter, I sport
[2:44:13] deletion. I also am supportive
[2:44:16] of having the $20,000 add in. I
[2:44:18] do think that's important so
[2:44:19] that there's clear direction as
[2:44:21] to what we expect in terms of
[2:44:22] the incentive.
[2:44:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[2:44:25] you. Supervisor wagner.
[2:44:27] >>don wagner: I just wonder
[2:44:28] whether we're trying too hard.
[2:44:30] Maybe the solution is leave a in
[2:44:34] there but change that "shall" to
[2:44:39] "MAY." does that do it?
[2:44:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, I
[2:44:42] think vice-chair pointed out, as
[2:44:43] long as there's a hiring freeze,
[2:44:45] it doesn't really matter.
[2:44:48] >>don wagner: understood. I
[2:44:52] know we're hearing from ocea
[2:44:54] about the challenges with the
[2:44:56] directive and some push-back,
[2:44:58] and I respect that. And we'll
[2:45:01] see if there is a way here to
[2:45:04] finesse that and make it "MAY."
[2:45:05] >>chair, doug chaffee: you want
[2:45:08] to have the ocea head come up
[2:45:12] and address that?
[2:45:14] >>don wagner: well, I guess the
[2:45:15] first thing would be whether
[2:45:18] that would be something that
[2:45:21] would work with the ceo or maybe
[2:45:24] we delete a all together and
[2:45:26] realize you have that inherent
[2:45:27] power counsel just told us
[2:45:29] about. I'm not sure what the
[2:45:31] easiest path is here
[2:45:33] >>michelle aguirre: if I might,
[2:45:33] supervisor...
[2:45:37] You know, deletion of 4a or
[2:45:40] changing the word "shall" to
[2:45:41] "MAY" be deleted with the
[2:45:44] additional language of "unless
[2:45:46] an exemption is authorized,"
[2:45:50] et cetera. So this is what I
[2:45:52] would say the ceo, right, budget
[2:45:54] and finance office staff do all
[2:45:56] day every day, working with
[2:45:57] departments. This isn't the
[2:45:59] first time that we've done this.
[2:45:59] My understanding is there's
[2:46:02] concern about, if we had -- the
[2:46:03] number was referenced earlier,
[2:46:05] 2000, based on the V.I.P.
[2:46:07] Program that we implemented
[2:46:10] during covid previously, you
[2:46:12] know. We don't anticipate
[2:46:14] having 2000. But we know that
[2:46:16] 2000 would be a significant hit.
[2:46:18] we know that depending on which
[2:46:20] positions are vacated, we
[2:46:22] can't -- let's say it's a
[2:46:22] department head, we're not just
[2:46:24] going to delete a department
[2:46:25] head position, right. There
[2:46:26] would just be a common sense
[2:46:28] approach to implementation and
[2:46:31] administration of this program.
[2:46:35] While it says "shall be
[2:46:35] deleted," we had also mentioned
[2:46:37] that section 6 of the policy
[2:46:39] does provide the ceo with the
[2:46:40] ability -- the flexibility and
[2:46:41] the implementation via the
[2:46:43] administration of the program.
[2:46:45] So while it says "shall," it
[2:46:46] wouldn't just be automatic as
[2:46:48] the program is being
[2:46:50] administered. So I have no
[2:46:53] problem with changing "shall" to
[2:46:55] "MAY" and then using the other
[2:46:56] language because that's how it
[2:46:57] would be implemented anyway
[2:46:59] >>don wagner: you don't need the
[2:47:01] other language if it's "MAY."
[2:47:02] >>michelle aguirre: correct.
[2:47:04] You could just put a period at
[2:47:05] the end
[2:47:09] >>don wagner: right.. And I do
[2:47:11] want to know what MR. Barfield
[2:47:14] has to say.
[2:47:17] >>speaker: so this is a
[2:47:19] mandatory subject of bargaining
[2:47:22] on impacts. Even if you adopt
[2:47:25] this today, you are obliged to
[2:47:28] meet and confirm with us, I.E.,
[2:47:30] on those impacts at a minimum.
[2:47:32] My fear, and I shared this to
[2:47:33] some of you, is that this would
[2:47:36] get turned into a public
[2:47:38] negotiation. So I gotta tell
[2:47:42] ya, I'm absolutely flabbergasted
[2:47:44] that we're having this
[2:47:45] conversation. And with county
[2:47:47] counsel opining on it from a
[2:47:52] legal standpoint, to me, it is a
[2:47:55] policy question. I appreciate
[2:47:56] leon pointing out that the
[2:48:00] dollar apt was not included --
[2:48:01] the dollar amount was not
[2:48:03] included. I noticed that too.
[2:48:04] But to have this discussion in
[2:48:08] public is incredible to me. I
[2:48:12] did answer your question,
[2:48:15] MR. Supervisor? I'm not going
[2:48:19] to answer that in public. It's
[2:48:21] up to this board to adopt some
[2:48:24] action, and then that will
[2:48:25] trigger the necessary meet and
[2:48:29] confer process. And I think
[2:48:31] earlier I made our position
[2:48:32] known. I'm not going to take a
[2:48:34] public position to say, oh,
[2:48:37] yeah, that will fix it. There's
[2:48:39] still a lot wrong with this.
[2:48:41] And if the board so chooses to
[2:48:43] include this item as a
[2:48:45] cost-saving measure as part of
[2:48:48] this budget, it will trigger the
[2:48:50] obligation to meet and confer
[2:48:53] with us, and I think I made our
[2:48:54] position pretty darn clear.
[2:48:56] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[2:48:58] you. I think by deleting it, we
[2:49:01] can come back and add something
[2:49:01] later if we need to. Because
[2:49:03] there's this dollar amount that
[2:49:06] we did not address, and I think
[2:49:08] meeting and conferring in
[2:49:11] advance would be wise here. So
[2:49:14] I'm going to stay with simply
[2:49:15] deleting it. We can work out
[2:49:16] language later. And right now
[2:49:18] it's kind of bogged down. So
[2:49:21] I'd like to adopt a budget. We
[2:49:23] got about 110 other items to
[2:49:25] look at before we're done today
[2:49:27] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[2:49:27] MR. CHAIRMAN, did you want to
[2:49:28] put the dollar amount in or no
[2:49:30] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, I'm
[2:49:31] not quite sure how to word that
[2:49:34] one either. Supervisor nguyen,
[2:49:34] you have a comment?
[2:49:37] >>janet nguyen: I do. So I'm
[2:49:42] trying to understand all this.
[2:49:46] County counsel, so if item a is
[2:49:49] deleted, does that -- does the
[2:49:52] ceo still continue to have -- i
[2:49:55] mean, be able to freeze. So it
[2:49:58] doesn't stop her or him from
[2:50:01] freezing these positions going
[2:50:01] forward?
[2:50:02] >>leon page: that's right. And
[2:50:04] that's why I spoke. I wanted
[2:50:05] the board to be aware of the
[2:50:07] ceo's existing authority just so
[2:50:08] that everyone is on the same
[2:50:09] page and departments don't have
[2:50:11] expectations because the board
[2:50:12] deleted that language that they
[2:50:14] can now fill positions
[2:50:17] irregardless of the budgetary
[2:50:17] impacts.
[2:50:22] >>janet nguyen: and then can you
[2:50:26] address, if we move forward with
[2:50:31] this, if we delete, a, do we go
[2:50:32] then into meet and confer or
[2:50:34] does it have to be in this item
[2:50:38] to be going to meet and confer?
[2:50:40] >>leon page: I think the county
[2:50:42] will engage in good faith with
[2:50:44] all of the effected employee
[2:50:45] organizations regardless of
[2:50:47] whether the language of 4a is
[2:50:50] included or not. I mean, this
[2:50:53] could obviously have impacts on
[2:50:54] county employees. And it's
[2:50:55] those impacts that the county
[2:50:57] has to meet and confer with the
[2:50:59] organizations over.
[2:51:00] >>janet nguyen: last question,
[2:51:02] then, you can give us a language
[2:51:06] to include the $20,000? What
[2:51:10] that language would be? For us
[2:51:12] to consider?
[2:51:17] >>leon page: sure. The amount
[2:51:20] of the incentive contemplated
[2:51:24] herein shall be $20,000, up to
[2:51:26] $20,000 to the employees -- it
[2:51:28] shall be a contribution --
[2:51:29] employee contribution --
[2:51:29] >>janet nguyen: I'm sorry. So
[2:51:32] the ceo is nodding her head no.
[2:51:35] MADAM Ceo, not up to, just
[2:51:35] $20,000?
[2:51:37] >>michelle aguirre: yeah. I
[2:51:40] mean, if we are looking -- if
[2:51:45] you want it to be 20,000, just
[2:51:46] state 20,000. That was intent.
[2:51:48] If you want to provide
[2:51:49] flexibility, then it would be
[2:51:53] the up to.
[2:51:55] >>janet nguyen: what do you --
[2:51:57] >>michelle aguirre: what we were
[2:52:00] intending to move forward with
[2:52:04] was the $20 contribution to the
[2:52:06] hra. I am fine with that
[2:52:06] language
[2:52:07] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[2:52:08] MR. Chair, let's just add that
[2:52:10] to the motion, the $20,000
[2:52:11] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[2:52:13] right. Well, let's -- no. This
[2:52:14] is a little different. How do
[2:52:18] we word, that up to -- added to
[2:52:19] the hc account
[2:52:20] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: not
[2:52:24] up to. Will just $20,000ed to
[2:52:26] the incentive hra account. She
[2:52:29] says she wants it to just be
[2:52:36] $20,000, not an up to.
[2:52:38] >>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN, I
[2:52:41] suggested the "up to," but MADAM
[2:52:44] Ceo said she preferred just to
[2:52:45] stay directly at $20,000 so
[2:52:46] there's no confusion
[2:52:47] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: that
[2:52:48] way you reduce the haggling and
[2:52:49] all that
[2:52:50] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[2:52:52] right. County counsel, you can
[2:52:53] give us some language that
[2:52:54] combines what we're talking
[2:52:55] about here
[2:53:03] >>leon page: yes. The amount of
[2:53:05] the one-time contribution to the
[2:53:09] employees hra shall be $20,000.
[2:53:10] >>chair, doug chaffee: that's
[2:53:11] it
[2:53:12] >>leon page: and I put that in
[2:53:12] section 3
[2:53:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: and the
[2:53:17] deletion of 4a? Is that a
[2:53:19] separate item or do we combine
[2:53:19] these
[2:53:20] >>leon page: that would be -- I
[2:53:21] would put that language that I
[2:53:25] just spoke of in section 3 of
[2:53:30] the policy. And then 4a can be
[2:53:31] removed, if that's the direction
[2:53:33] of the board. And again, this
[2:53:35] all will be subject to meet and
[2:53:35] confer
[2:53:37] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay. So
[2:53:40] that's the motion. Are there
[2:53:43] any objection as soon as I got
[2:53:45] it. All right. Now, did we
[2:53:46] move the whole budget with that,
[2:53:47] too? All right. We included
[2:53:50] that. All right. I think we're
[2:53:52] finished with that item. And it
[2:53:53] is now noon. What does the
[2:53:56] board want to do? To come back
[2:53:58] later, which we're going to have
[2:54:00] to anyway, or do you want to go
[2:54:01] to closed session? Closed
[2:54:03] session? All right. MADAM
[2:54:04] Clerk, would you read the
[2:54:35] closed-session items please?
[2:54:36] Cs1. County executive office-
[2:54:36] conference with labor negotiator
[2:54:37] -pursuant to
[2:54:38] government code section 54957.6:
[2:54:39] agency negotiator: jamie newton,
[2:54:40] chief human resources officer
[2:54:41] employee organizations:
[2:54:41] association of orange county
[2:54:42] deputy sheriffs (Aocds), orange
[2:54:43] county employees association
[2:54:44] (Ocea), orange county attorneys
[2:54:45] association (Ocaa),
[2:54:46] international union of operating
[2:54:46] engineers(Iuoe), association of
[2:54:47] county law enforcement
[2:54:48] managers (Aclem), american
[2:54:49] federation of state, county and
[2:54:50] municipal employees
[2:54:50] (Afscme), orange county managers
[2:54:51] association (Ocma), teamsters,
[2:54:52] and workers represented
[2:54:53] by united domestic workers of
[2:54:53] america (Udwa) And other
[2:54:54] non-represented employees
[2:54:58] re: terms and conditions of
[2:54:59] of employment
[2:54:59] scs2. County counsel-
[2:55:00] conference with legal counsel-
[2:55:02] anticipated litigation
[2:55:02] -
[2:55:02] significant exposure to
[2:55:03] litigation-pursuant to
[2:55:04] government code section
[2:55:09] 54956.9(D)(2):
[2:55:12] number of cases, multiple.
[2:55:13] Scs3. County counsel-
[2:55:13] conference with legal counsel --
[2:55:14] existing litigation-
[2:55:15] pursuant to government code
[2:55:16] section 54956.9(D)(1):
[2:55:16] name of case: G.C. V. County of
[2:55:17] orange, orange county superior
[2:55:20] court case no. 30-2022-
[2:55:29] 01274942-cu-po-cjc (Click for
[2:55:32] 01274942-cu-po-cjc (Click for
[2:55:32] scs4. County counsel-
[2:55:33] conference with legal counsel-
[2:55:34] existing litigation-
[2:55:35] pursuant to government code
[2:55:35] section 54956.9(D)(1):
[2:55:36] name of case: bryan vig v.
[2:55:37] County of orange et al., orange
[2:55:39] county superior court case no. 30-2025-01475686-cu-pa-cjc
[2:55:40] scs5. County counsel-
[2:55:41] conference with legal counsel-
[2:55:41] existing litigation-
[2:55:42] pursuant to government code
[2:55:43] section 54956.9(D)(1):
[2:55:44] name of case: california
[2:55:44] department of forestry and fire
[2:55:46] protection v. County of orange, orange
[2:55:48] county superior court case no. 30-2025-01508686-cu-mc-cxc
[2:55:50] and we have three speakers
[2:55:53] wishing to speak on the
[2:55:53] closed-session items
[2:55:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[2:55:56] right. First speaker in the
[2:55:59] closed-session item. 1 minute,
[2:56:02] please.
[2:56:03] >>speaker: good morning, folks.
[2:56:04] I know I only have a minute
[2:56:06] here. I'm the union
[2:56:08] representative for teamsters
[2:56:11] local 952, o and m unit. Good
[2:56:12] afternoon, board. We're asking
[2:56:15] again please give
[2:56:16] authorization -- we're getting
[2:56:17] creative now. I'm happy to see,
[2:56:20] that but get creative how to set
[2:56:21] our union negotiations. We've
[2:56:23] been told no at every corner
[2:56:25] although we have agreed on some
[2:56:26] articles, we're still so far
[2:56:27] apart. Thank you for the board
[2:56:29] members who have listened. We
[2:56:31] need support from the whole
[2:56:32] board on finding a way to
[2:56:33] authorize wage increases. Like
[2:56:35] I said last time, I'm open to
[2:56:36] meet with any and all board
[2:56:38] members and to avoid a labor
[2:56:39] dispute. We cannot burn time
[2:56:41] and go months and months past
[2:56:42] the end of our contract like the
[2:56:44] last cycle unless -- unless
[2:56:46] there's a retroactive pay in the
[2:56:48] talks. I'm not going to hold my
[2:56:50] breath on that. But let's get
[2:56:52] creative right. Thank you to
[2:56:54] this and let's settle our
[2:56:55] negotiations. You know, we want
[2:56:57] to keep servicing our county
[2:56:59] here, and again, we don't want
[2:57:00] to have a labor dispute. Let's
[2:57:02] get some wage increases on the
[2:57:04] table. Thank you.
[2:57:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[2:57:14] you, sir. Next speaker please.
[2:57:16] >>speaker: good morning. My
[2:57:18] name is fabian lopez and I'm
[2:57:19] currently serving as a fleet
[2:57:20] technician with the orange
[2:57:23] county public works. As a unit
[2:57:24] steward appointed to the
[2:57:25] negotiations committee, it's
[2:57:26] clear to me that all of you have
[2:57:28] lost touch with the reality of
[2:57:30] the times that we're living in.
[2:57:31] Throughout the 16 gork meetings
[2:57:33] that we've had, we've been met
[2:57:34] with nothing but offensive
[2:57:35] proposals and threats and
[2:57:36] resulting in very little
[2:57:38] progress. We're tired, we're
[2:57:40] tired of our hard-earned tack
[2:57:41] dollars going to the wrong
[2:57:42] places. I'm here today to
[2:57:44] remind that you we are all
[2:57:46] public servants, and the public
[2:57:48] deserve what is they pay for in
[2:57:49] taxes, a fair contract and wage
[2:57:51] proposal to all county employees
[2:57:52] would ensure public services
[2:57:54] would not be disrupted. Thank
[2:57:54] you.
[2:57:57] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[2:58:03] you.
[2:58:04] >>speaker: good afternoon,
[2:58:06] members of the board be my name
[2:58:08] is betty lopez. I worked for
[2:58:09] the county of orange for the
[2:58:11] last 18 years, and I have --
[2:58:12] this is my third time
[2:58:14] negotiating a contract with the
[2:58:16] county. I just want you guys to
[2:58:20] know that we work really hard.
[2:58:24] We -- we work hard, we're here
[2:58:25] every day. When the county shut
[2:58:26] down, we stayed for covid. We
[2:58:32] work every day. Every single
[2:58:35] day, the essential members that
[2:58:36] represent -- that we represent
[2:58:37] are doing the invisible heavy
[2:58:39] lifting for this county. When
[2:58:40] you visit our sites, we're the
[2:58:42] ones that take care of those
[2:58:44] animals. I work for the animal
[2:58:46] shelter. We take care of those
[2:58:48] animals. We get things ready
[2:58:49] for you guys to come in to take
[2:58:51] your pictures for your photo
[2:58:53] ops, and I just want you guys to
[2:58:55] know we see you, and I just
[2:58:56] really hope you see us when we
[2:59:02] come in asking for wages, it's
[2:59:03] not because we are asking for an
[2:59:06] allowance. We work really hard.
[2:59:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[2:59:06] you.
[2:59:08] >>clerk, robin stieler: no
[2:59:09] further speakers, MR. CHAIRMAN
[2:59:10] >>chair, doug chaffee: with
[2:59:12] that, we are adjourned to closed
[2:59:22] session.
[3:04:24] [Closed session]
[3:04:28] >>speaker: okay. We're back in
[3:04:29] session, county counsel, do you
[3:04:31] have anything to report
[3:04:35] >>leon page: pursuant to gofs.6
[3:04:37] and 9 the board met in closed
[3:04:38] session to discuss the items
[3:04:42] referenced on today's agenda
[3:04:45] scs1, 2, 3, 4, 5, with respect
[3:04:47] to csc1, the board took no
[3:04:48] reportable action. With respect
[3:04:51] to scs2 the board unanimously
[3:04:52] approved settlement of the
[3:04:54] various claims filed by members
[3:04:56] of the public for losses and
[3:04:59] damages incurred as a result of
[3:05:00] the SEPTEMBER 2024 airport fire.
[3:05:03] The board unanimously approved
[3:05:07] a $2 million settlement for the
[3:05:10] pagano, par ada -- households
[3:05:14] the board unanimously approved a
[3:05:16] 3.5 million global settlement
[3:05:18] for the gors key household the
[3:05:21] board unanimously approved a
[3:05:24] $1.5 million global settlement
[3:05:26] and for the morrison household,
[3:05:29] the board unanimously approved
[3:05:30] $2.5 million global settlement
[3:05:32] of the settlements approved
[3:05:34] today remains subject to any
[3:05:36] person who inquires. With
[3:05:39] respect to scs3 in the matter of
[3:05:42] 3g in the matter much gc versus
[3:05:45] county of orange. This case
[3:05:46] involved an alleged sexual abuse
[3:05:47] by the plaintiff by her foster
[3:05:49] parent and foster brother in the
[3:05:50] early 1980s. An alleged
[3:05:52] failure on the par the county
[3:05:53] the social services agency to
[3:05:54] investigate the plaintiff's
[3:05:57] complaints. That settlement is
[3:05:58] subject to the final approval of
[3:05:59] others and when that settlement
[3:06:01] agreement is finalized copies of
[3:06:01] the agreement will be made
[3:06:03] available through the office of
[3:06:04] ceo risk management to any
[3:06:06] person who inquires with respect
[3:06:09] to scs4, the matter of brian vig
[3:06:10] versus county of orange the
[3:06:12] board unanimously approved a
[3:06:17] settlement of 88, 992.51, in
[3:06:20] this 2024 motor vehicle accident
[3:06:22] case that resulted from a
[3:06:23] collision with an orange county
[3:06:24] sheriff's department vehicle in
[3:06:26] lake forest. The settlement
[3:06:26] approved today remains subject
[3:06:29] to the final approval of others
[3:06:29] and when that settlement
[3:06:32] agreement is finalized, copies
[3:06:33] of the agreement will be made to
[3:06:35] anyone who inquires. With
[3:06:37] respect to scs5, the board in
[3:06:38] the matter of california
[3:06:39] department of forestry versus
[3:06:42] county of orange, unanimously
[3:06:46] approved the $6,950,000
[3:06:48] mediator's proposal to settle
[3:06:52] and resolve the lawsuit filed by
[3:06:55] cal fire against the county to
[3:06:56] recover cost incurred fighting
[3:06:59] the SEPTEMBER 2024 airport fire.
[3:07:00] Copies will be made available
[3:07:01] to any person who inquires.
[3:07:03] With respect to the claims of
[3:07:08] alan lp bumpkins, angela bend
[3:07:12] zoo brown, degrade da, fontes,
[3:07:14] the inner circle foster family,
[3:07:19] james crest, lucas mark mia,
[3:07:22] mig, morris, mueller, page, no
[3:07:24] relation to me, ram mire reds,
[3:07:26] sure, silva, slate, thurston,
[3:07:29] valentine, vasquez, via,
[3:07:30] williams and willsie which was
[3:07:32] considered by the board on
[3:07:34] JUNE 9th 2026 as scs8 the
[3:07:36] board unanimously approved a
[3:07:38] global settlement in the amount
[3:07:48] of 7,752,596.45. The
[3:07:49] settlements all will remain
[3:07:50] subject to the final approval of
[3:07:54] others and when settlements are
[3:07:54] finalized copies of the
[3:07:55] agreement will be made available
[3:07:57] to any person who inquires.
[3:07:59] That's it, MR. CHAIRMAN. The
[3:08:01] board took no other reportable
[3:08:02] action in closed session today.
[3:08:03] >>chair, doug chaffee: that was
[3:08:04] quite a bit of reportable
[3:08:07] action. Thank you, county
[3:08:10] council. Is. We moved the
[3:08:15] budget item ahead. We come back
[3:08:29] toes item 35.
[3:08:30] >>clerk, robin stieler: 35.
[3:08:31] Supervisor sarmiento-consider
[3:08:31] first reading of "
[3:08:31] an ordinance
[3:08:32] of the county of orange,
[3:08:33] california, amending section
[3:08:33] 1-1-80, subsection (H) And
[3:08:34] adding section 1-1-81,
[3:08:35] subsections (E) Through (I) To
[3:08:36] the codified ordinances of the
[3:08:37] county of orange regarding
[3:08:38] lobbyist registration and
[3:08:38] reporting"
[3:08:39] ; and set second
[3:08:39] reading and adoption for
[3:08:42] 8/11/26, 9:30 A.M.
[3:08:44] We have no requests to speak on
[3:08:45] agenda item 35..
[3:08:46] >>chair, doug chaffee: do we
[3:08:49] have any -- we didn't have any
[3:08:49] commenters?
[3:08:50] >>clerk, robin stieler: no, we
[3:08:50] do not.
[3:08:51] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[3:08:53] right. This is a lobbyist
[3:08:57] recording type of proposal.
[3:08:58] Many other counties already have
[3:09:01] this, we do not. It kind of
[3:09:02] closes the gap in some weird
[3:09:04] ways. And I appreciate
[3:09:06] supervisor sarmiento joining in
[3:09:09] on this. I'm going to move the
[3:09:11] item. If there are comments --
[3:09:13] moved and second by supervisor
[3:09:17] sarmiento, comment from
[3:09:17] vice-chair foley.
[3:09:18] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[3:09:19] you. Thank you for bringing
[3:09:21] this item forward. I strongly
[3:09:22] support this item. I do think
[3:09:24] more disclosure to the public is
[3:09:25] important, and I think you know
[3:09:27] you're doing something right
[3:09:29] when shirley grendle sends you
[3:09:30] an email of support. So thank
[3:09:33] you for bringing this forward.
[3:09:34] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[3:09:34] supervisor sarmiento, any
[3:09:35] further comments
[3:09:36] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,
[3:09:38] MR. Chair. I know, it's hard to
[3:09:40] get praise from shirley, but
[3:09:41] it's always nice when it comes
[3:09:43] in. Thank you, MR. Chair, and
[3:09:43] obviously this is something
[3:09:45] that's been worked on for the
[3:09:48] past couple of years. It's a
[3:09:50] subtle step but an important
[3:09:51] one. This extends and expands
[3:09:54] the rules to include discussions
[3:09:55] with department heads, though,
[3:09:58] it's basically just modifying
[3:10:00] the definition of advocacy and
[3:10:02] lobbying. So I just want to be
[3:10:03] clear, one of the things I want
[3:10:06] to make sure is on the record
[3:10:07] that this no way interferes with
[3:10:09] the rights of others that, you
[3:10:10] know, organizations that come
[3:10:12] before the board and educate
[3:10:13] officials or present their case
[3:10:18] on the issues. It provides more
[3:10:19] sunshine regarding efforts to
[3:10:20] influence by entities hired to
[3:10:22] lobby, not people just simply
[3:10:23] wanting to, you know, discuss
[3:10:26] issues that MAY affect their
[3:10:28] neighborhood, MAY affect
[3:10:29] their -- you know, local
[3:10:30] communities. But we want to
[3:10:32] make sure that that continues to
[3:10:35] be something that we encourage.
[3:10:36] I think to have more exchange
[3:10:38] with residents, more exchange
[3:10:42] with stakeholders is important.
[3:10:43] So, thank you, MR. Chair. I
[3:10:44] think this is an important step
[3:10:47] in the role of the ethics
[3:10:48] commission to provide additional
[3:10:49] review and guidance to the
[3:10:51] lobbying and advocacy community,
[3:10:53] and it strengthens the role of
[3:10:54] the commission as well. With
[3:10:55] that, happy to second it
[3:10:57] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[3:10:59] for joining. I would note one
[3:11:04] important change, lobbying not
[3:11:05] only of the members of the
[3:11:08] board, but you MAY engage in
[3:11:10] lobbying with, let's say, an
[3:11:11] example, department heads. That
[3:11:13] counts too. So reporting is
[3:11:15] another step in transparency for
[3:11:18] us. And it's a step in what I
[3:11:20] would call good government, as
[3:11:22] we're trying to do. Been moved
[3:11:25] and seconded. Any objection?
[3:11:26] Seeing none, it has been
[3:11:28] approved unanimously. Thank
[3:11:29] you, colleagues. Go on to item
[3:11:31] 34, please.
[3:11:35] >>clerk, robin stieler: 36.
[3:11:36] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm
[3:11:38] sorry. 36. Just did 34. All
[3:11:41] right, 35.
[3:11:41] >>clerk, robin stieler: 36.
[3:11:42] Under supervisor wagner-
[3:11:43] approve allocation of $240,000
[3:11:43] from the third district'
[3:11:44] s fy
[3:11:45] 25/26 office budget, budget
[3:11:46] control 008 to orange county
[3:11:46] sheriff'
[3:11:48] s department for
[3:11:51] purchase and installation
[3:11:52] of new body scanner at intake
[3:11:54] release center; make related
[3:11:55] findings under government code
[3:11:57] section 26227; and authorize
[3:11:58] auditor-controller or designee
[3:12:01] to make related payments
[3:12:03] we have no requests to speak on
[3:12:05] agenda item 36..
[3:12:05] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[3:12:07] supervisor wagner, this is your
[3:12:08] item
[3:12:08] >>don wagner: yes. Thank you
[3:12:11] very much, MR. CHAIRMAN. Real
[3:12:13] briefly, out of the office
[3:12:14] budget, not discretionary, this
[3:12:17] goes to the sheriff's department
[3:12:18] for the body scanner, the intake
[3:12:21] center, and we've all been
[3:12:23] seeing reports with respect to
[3:12:24] inmate deaths and how many of
[3:12:25] them are in the first few days
[3:12:27] of custody and drugs getting
[3:12:28] into the jails. This is a state
[3:12:36] of the art opportunity to give
[3:12:37] our shares an opportunity to
[3:12:39] interdict those drugs before
[3:12:41] they get into the population.
[3:12:42] So it's for the health and
[3:12:43] safety of the inmates. The
[3:12:45] health and safety of the
[3:12:47] deputies, and I appreciate the
[3:12:48] sheriff in working with me on
[3:12:50] this to make this one happen.
[3:12:51] If there are any questions, I'm
[3:12:53] happy to take them, otherwise, I
[3:12:54] move for approval.
[3:12:55] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
[3:12:55] second
[3:12:57] >>chair, doug chaffee: I agree.
[3:12:59] Anyone object to this item?
[3:12:59] .
[3:13:00] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: great
[3:13:00] item.
[3:13:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: seeing
[3:13:03] none. Looks like it's niang
[3:13:05] muss. Thank you for bringing
[3:13:08] that forward. Item 37, please.
[3:13:09] >>clerk, robin stieler: 37.
[3:13:10] Under auditor-controller-
[3:13:10] acting as board of supervisors
[3:13:11] and orange county housing
[3:13:12] authority-adopt resolution
[3:13:13] authorizing temporary transfer
[3:13:13] of cash between various funds
[3:13:16] for fy 2026-27
[3:13:18] we have no requests to speak on
[3:13:20] agenda item 37
[3:13:20] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
[3:13:23] all-district item. Moved and
[3:13:24] seconded. Any objection? Item
[3:13:32] is approved. 39, please. --
[3:13:35] 38, I'm sorry.
[3:13:35] >>clerk, robin stieler: 38.
[3:13:36] Under district attorney-
[3:13:37] approve model contract
[3:13:37] ma-026-26010077 for victim
[3:13:38] witness assistance program
[3:13:39] services, 7/1/26-6/30/29
[3:13:39] ($20,357,748); renewable for two
[3:13:40] additional one-year terms;
[3:13:40] select respondent from
[3:13:41] solicitation ranking results
[3:13:42] list; and authorize county
[3:13:42] procurement officer or deputized
[3:13:43] designee to negotiate and
[3:13:44] execute contract and make future
[3:13:44] amendments under certain conditions
[3:13:46] and we have no requests to
[3:13:47] speak.
[3:13:47] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is
[3:13:49] an all-district item.
[3:13:49] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[3:13:50] the item.
[3:13:50] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[3:13:51] seconded. Any objection?
[3:13:53] Seeing none --
[3:13:54] >>clerk, robin stieler:
[3:13:56] MR. Chair this requires a
[3:13:57] respondent is selected from the
[3:14:00] solicitation ranking results
[3:14:00] list.
[3:14:01] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I met
[3:14:03] to do that, move waymakers as
[3:14:04] the selected respondent..
[3:14:07] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[3:14:09] This new stuff kind of slows
[3:14:12] us -- gets us mixed up, and I'm
[3:14:13] mixed up anyway to start with.
[3:14:16] All right. So no objection,
[3:14:17] it's been moved and seconded.
[3:14:20] And we've chosen waymakers.
[3:14:22] Item is approved. Now we go to
[3:14:22] 39.
[3:14:23] >>clerk, robin stieler: 39.
[3:14:24] Under district attorney-
[3:14:25] approve contract ma-026-26011343
[3:14:25] with hewlett packard enterprise
[3:14:27] company for hewlett packard
[3:14:28] enterprise support service,
[3:14:29] 7/1/26-6/30/28 ($1,741,703);
[3:14:30] and authorize county procurement
[3:14:31] officer or deputized designee to
[3:14:33] execute contract
[3:14:35] we have no requests to speak on
[3:14:37] agenda item 39..
[3:14:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
[3:14:40] all-district item..
[3:14:42] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[3:14:43] MR. CHAIRMAN, I'll move sc
[3:14:45] andersen group international as
[3:14:47] the primary and pdr solution as
[3:14:50] the alternate..
[3:14:50] >>chair, doug chaffee: been
[3:14:53] moved and seconded. Any
[3:14:56] objection? Go ahead, supervisor
[3:14:56] wagner?
[3:14:57] >>don wagner: unless I'm reading
[3:14:59] this wrong, you're on item 40.
[3:15:00] This is 39..
[3:15:02] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: oh,
[3:15:06] my bad. Sorry. You're right
[3:15:08] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is
[3:15:08] packard.
[3:15:10] >>don wagner: I'll move the
[3:15:10] item.
[3:15:11] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[3:15:12] disease. Okay.
[3:15:13] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[3:15:13] second.
[3:15:14] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[3:15:15] right, been moved and seconded.
[3:15:17] We've got the right vendor now?
[3:15:20] Okay. Any objection? Motion is
[3:15:22] approved. We go to item 40
[3:15:22] please.
[3:15:23] >>clerk, robin stieler: 40.
[3:15:24] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:15:25] model contract ma-060-26010737
[3:15:25] for mold remediation services
[3:15:26] 6/24/26-6/23/29 ($900,000);
[3:15:27] select and approve respondent
[3:15:27] and alternate respondent from
[3:15:28] solicitation ranking results
[3:15:29] list and authorize county
[3:15:29] procurement officer or deputized
[3:15:30] designee to negotiate and
[3:15:39] execute contract under certain conditions
[3:15:41] and we have no requests to speak
[3:15:42] on agenda item 40.
[3:15:44] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: now
[3:15:45] I'll move sc andersen group as
[3:15:48] the primary and pdr solutions as
[3:15:48] the alternate.
[3:15:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is
[3:15:51] an all-district item. Do we
[3:15:54] need to select a vendor here
[3:15:57] again? Yeah, we do. I have a
[3:15:57] motion.
[3:15:58] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
[3:15:59] moved sc andersen group as the
[3:16:03] primary and pdr solutions as the
[3:16:03] alternate.
[3:16:03] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[3:16:04] right. Moved and seconded. Any
[3:16:06] objection? Seeing none, item is
[3:16:09] approved. We now go to 41.
[3:16:10] >>clerk, robin stieler: 41.
[3:16:10] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:16:11] amendment 10 to contract
[3:16:12] ma-060-18010732 with idemia
[3:16:13] identity & security usa llc for
[3:16:14] livescan/biometric capture
[3:16:15] stations, equipment,
[3:16:17] accessories, supplies,
[3:16:18] software and maintenance,
[3:16:19] 8/22/26-8/21/27 ($450,646;
[3:16:20] cumulative total $3,866,755);
[3:16:20] and authorize county procurement
[3:16:21] officer or deputized designee to
[3:16:25] execute amendment
[3:16:27] we have no requests to speak on
[3:16:29] agenda item 41..
[3:16:30] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's
[3:16:32] again an all-district item.
[3:16:33] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[3:16:33] the item.
[3:16:34] >>chair, doug chaffee: we need
[3:16:36] to pick a vendor here.
[3:16:37] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: no
[3:16:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[3:16:40] It's been moved and seconded.
[3:16:42] Seeing no objection --
[3:16:43] >>clerk, robin stieler: MAY I
[3:16:45] clarify who's second on the
[3:16:46] motion.
[3:16:47] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
[3:16:49] motioned, supervisor --
[3:16:51] >>janet nguyen: and I seconded
[3:16:52] >>clerk, robin stieler: thank
[3:16:52] you.
[3:16:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: now, if
[3:16:55] we considering I'd like to take
[3:17:02] items 42 through 57 as a group.
[3:17:04] I think the approval or
[3:17:05] consideration, say, by one
[3:17:07] motion, these are all policing
[3:17:09] contracts with the sheriff
[3:17:10] >>clerk, robin stieler:
[3:17:11] MR. CHAIRMAN, 48 is not one of
[3:17:13] the law enforcement items. 48
[3:17:15] is a five-year revenue agreement
[3:17:15] for continuing education
[3:17:17] classes. So it would be 42
[3:17:22] through 47 and 49 through 57.
[3:17:23] >>speaker: with that exception,
[3:17:25] let's go ahead with that
[3:17:28] grouping.
[3:17:29] >>clerk, robin stieler: 42.
[3:17:30] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:17:30] amendment 1 to contract with
[3:17:31] city of villa park for law
[3:17:34] enforcement services
[3:17:35] ($2,416,848) And special and
[3:17:36] supplemental services
[3:17:36] ($259,500), 7/1/26-6/30/27;
[3:17:37] and authorize sheriff-coroner or
[3:17:38] designee to execute amendments
[3:17:39] under certain conditions
[3:17:40] >>clerk, robin stieler: 43.
[3:17:40] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:17:41] contract with city of dana point
[3:17:42] for law enforcement services,
[3:17:42] 7/1/26-6/30/27 ($15,904,903);
[3:17:43] and authorize sheriff-coroner or
[3:17:44] designee to execute amendments
[3:17:45] under certain conditions-
[3:17:46] district 5
[3:17:46] >>clerk, robin stieler: 44.
[3:17:47] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:17:47] contract with city of laguna
[3:17:48] hills for law enforcement
[3:17:49] services, 7/1/26-6/30/27
[3:17:49] ($12,112,857); and authorize
[3:17:50] sheriff-coroner to execute
[3:17:51] amendments under certain conditions
[3:17:52] >>clerk, robin stieler: 45.
[3:17:52] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:17:53] amendment 1 to contract with
[3:17:54] city of san juan capistrano for
[3:17:54] law enforcement services, 7/1/26
[3:17:55] -6/30/27 ($14,310,630;
[3:17:55] cumulative total $48,169,382);
[3:17:56] and authorize sheriff-coroner or
[3:17:57] designee to execute amendments
[3:17:58] under certain conditions
[3:17:58] >>clerk, robin stieler: 46.
[3:18:00] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:18:05] contract with city of aliso
[3:18:07] viejo for law enforcement
[3:18:07] services, 7/1/26-6/30/27
[3:18:08] ($11,550,802); and authorize
[3:18:09] sheriff-coroner or designee to
[3:18:09] execute amendments under
[3:18:11] certain conditions
[3:18:12] >>clerk, robin stieler: 47.
[3:18:13] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:18:13] amendment 1 to contract with
[3:18:14] city of laguna niguel for law
[3:18:14] enforcement services, 7/1/26-
[3:18:15] 6/30/27 ($19,920,619); and
[3:18:16] authorize sheriff-coroner or
[3:18:16] designee to execute amendments
[3:18:18] under certain conditions-
[3:18:20] and we have no requests to speak
[3:18:21] on these items.
[3:18:24] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
[3:18:25] move the items.
[3:18:25] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm
[3:18:27] seeing no objection. The items
[3:18:30] are approved. Now let's go to
[3:18:32] 48. District 5
[3:18:32] >>clerk, robin stieler: 48.
[3:18:33] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:18:34] five-year revenue agreement with
[3:18:34] rancho santiago community
[3:18:35] college district for continuing
[3:18:36] education classes for inmates,
[3:18:36] 7/1/26-6/30/31 ($984,375)-
[3:18:39] districts 2 and 3
[3:18:41] and we have no requests to speak
[3:18:42] on agenda item 48.
[3:18:42] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[3:18:46] district 2 and district 3 item.
[3:18:46] Moved and seconded. Any
[3:18:47] objection? Seeing none, the
[3:18:51] item is approved. Now we go to
[3:19:00] item 58.
[3:19:01] 58. Sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:19:02] amendment 1 to contract
[3:19:02] ma-060-23011224 with crh
[3:19:03] california water inc., dba
[3:19:03] culligan of santa ana for water
[3:19:04] softener services, 8/8/26-
[3:19:05] 8/7/27 ($430,800; cumulative
[3:19:05] total $1,723,200), renewable for
[3:19:06] one additional one-year term;
[3:19:07] and authorize county procurement
[3:19:07] officer or deputized designee to
[3:19:09] execute amendment
[3:19:11] >>speaker: a district 2 and 3
[3:19:13] item. Moved and second. Any
[3:19:15] objection? Item is approved.
[3:19:18] 59, please.
[3:19:18] >>clerk, robin stieler: 59.
[3:19:19] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:19:20] continuation of local emergency
[3:19:20] for 2026 garden grove hazardous
[3:19:21] material incident; and set
[3:19:22] review to determine continuing
[3:19:22] need for emergency action for
[3:19:23] 8/11/26, 9:30 A.M. And every 60
[3:19:29] days thereafter
[3:19:31] we have received one request to
[3:19:34] speak on agenda item 59.
[3:19:35] >>chair, doug chaffee: is an
[3:19:36] all-district item
[3:19:37] >>clerk, robin stieler: we
[3:19:39] received one request to speak on
[3:19:40] agenda item 59.
[3:19:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: please
[3:19:41] call that speaker
[3:19:44] >>clerk, robin stieler: john
[3:19:46] spring..
[3:19:48] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm not
[3:19:49] seeing -- is he here? Please
[3:19:50] come forward..
[3:19:52] >>chair, doug chaffee: I have a
[3:19:58] slight hearing impairment.
[3:19:58] MR. CHAIRMAN, members of the
[3:20:02] board, I'm john walton spring.
[3:20:05] I'm here first to honor my
[3:20:09] father carl chaffee spring,
[3:20:11] major U.S. Army chemical
[3:20:14] warfare. He was born in garden
[3:20:21] grove in 1899 and delivered by a
[3:20:24] DR. John d chaffee, who was a
[3:20:28] good friend of my grandfather
[3:20:30] reverend louis spring of the
[3:20:34] garden grove methodist episcopal
[3:20:35] church. My primary reason for
[3:20:44] being here is public safety.
[3:20:48] Methyl cry late -- meth cry late
[3:20:52] has a very similar molecular
[3:20:57] structure as saran, which is a
[3:20:58] nerve gas
[3:20:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[3:21:01] you, sir. Your time is up.
[3:21:03] >>speaker: and I guess I've run
[3:21:04] out of time.
[3:21:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: yes. You
[3:21:06] have. Thank you, sir. This is
[3:21:08] not on that topic. This is
[3:21:12] actually a continuation of the
[3:21:14] emergency moved and seconded.
[3:21:14] Any objection? Seeing none,
[3:21:18] item is approved. All right,
[3:21:20] item 60.
[3:21:21] >>clerk, robin stieler: 60.
[3:21:21] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:21:22] retroactive payment to rancho
[3:21:22] santiago community college
[3:21:23] district for
[3:21:24] tuition/registration fees for
[3:21:28] criminal justice classes ($420,801)
[3:21:30] We have no requests to speak on
[3:21:31] agenda item 60..
[3:21:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is a
[3:21:35] district 2 item. Moved and
[3:21:37] seconded. Supervisor foley,
[3:21:37] question.
[3:21:38] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.
[3:21:44] Could I ask MR. Mccullough or
[3:22:04] MR. Maine to come up?
[3:22:09] >>speaker: good afternoon,
[3:22:10] brian, from the sheriff's
[3:22:11] department.
[3:22:11] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
[3:22:13] know this is retroactive because
[3:22:15] of a delay by the community
[3:22:17] college invoice us. And so I
[3:22:19] guess my question is, this is 12
[3:22:22] to 18-month delay. Is there a
[3:22:24] way we can fix that so we don't
[3:22:26] have that delay in the future?
[3:22:29] Because we just voted on another
[3:22:30] contract, right?
[3:22:31] >>speaker: so it sounds like the
[3:22:34] college has kind of gotten their
[3:22:35] act together. It's our
[3:22:35] understanding that the staff
[3:22:37] they had in place was replaced
[3:22:38] back in the fall of last year,
[3:22:40] and the new staff member is kind
[3:22:41] of on board. Our folks have
[3:22:42] been working closely with them.
[3:22:46] We on our side, we're tracking
[3:22:47] it 100% accurately. We're
[3:22:49] trying to get them to bill us.
[3:22:50] They couldn't figure out a
[3:22:51] mechanism, the college
[3:22:53] administratively was kind of a
[3:22:54] mess. They've gotten that
[3:22:56] squared away, and it's our
[3:22:57] understanding that the new staff
[3:22:58] they have on board are kind of
[3:22:59] locked in, and we're working
[3:23:00] closely with them so this
[3:23:02] doesn't happen again.
[3:23:02] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
[3:23:03] Appreciate that. Thank you
[3:23:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[3:23:06] right. I heard a motion. Did I
[3:23:07] get a second
[3:23:08] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes.
[3:23:09] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[3:23:10] seconded. Any objection? The
[3:23:13] item is approved. 61, please.
[3:23:13] >>clerk, robin stieler: 61.
[3:23:14] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[3:23:15] amendment 4 to contract
[3:23:15] ma-060-21011079 with pepperdine
[3:23:16] university for youth diversion
[3:23:17] counseling services, 7/1/26-
[3:23:17] 6/30/27 ($448,396; cumulative
[3:23:18] total $2,504,736); and authorize
[3:23:19] county procurement officer or
[3:23:19] deputized designee to execute
[3:23:22] amendment
[3:23:24] we have no requests to speak on
[3:23:25] agenda item 61.
[3:23:26] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is
[3:23:27] an all-district item.
[3:23:28] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[3:23:28] the item.
[3:23:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[3:23:30] seconded. Any objection?
[3:23:31] Seeing none, item is approved.
[3:23:34] 62, please.
[3:23:34] >>clerk, robin stieler: 62.
[3:23:35] County counsel-approve
[3:23:36] termination of local emergency
[3:23:37] for the airport fire.
[3:23:39] We have no requests to speak on
[3:23:41] agenda item 62..
[3:23:42] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is
[3:23:44] an all-district item..
[3:23:45] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[3:23:46] second.
[3:23:46] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[3:23:47] seconded. Seeing no objection,
[3:23:54] item is approved. 63. Call
[3:23:56] item 63, please.
[3:23:56] >>clerk, robin stieler: 63 under
[3:23:57] county executive office-
[3:23:58] approve amendment 2 to renew
[3:23:58] contract ma-017-24011100 with
[3:23:59] orange county's united way dba
[3:24:00] orange county united way for
[3:24:00] professional and technical
[3:24:01] support, and information and
[3:24:02] referral services, 7/1/26-
[3:24:03] 6/30/27 ($828,000; cumulative
[3:24:03] total $2,460,224); and authorize
[3:24:04] county procurement officer or
[3:24:05] deputized designee to execute
[3:24:09] amendment
[3:24:11] we have no requests to speak on
[3:24:12] agenda item 63.
[3:24:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
[3:24:14] all-district item.
[3:24:17] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[3:24:17] the item.
[3:24:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[3:24:19] seconded. Any objection?
[3:24:22] Seeing none, item is approved.
[3:24:24] 64, please.
[3:24:24] >>clerk, robin stieler: 64.
[3:24:25] Under county executive office-
[3:24:26] approve amendment 1 to contract
[3:24:27] ma-017-25010195 with hub for
[3:24:27] integration, reentry and
[3:24:29] employment for workforce reentry
[3:24:29] services, term ending 9/12/27
[3:24:30] ($250,000; cumulative total
[3:24:31] $2,150,000); renewable for two
[3:24:32] additional one-year terms; and
[3:24:32] authorize county procurement
[3:24:33] officer or deputized designee to
[3:24:35] execute amendment
[3:24:36] and we have received four
[3:24:38] requests to speak on agenda item
[3:24:38] 64.
[3:24:39] >>chair, doug chaffee: please
[3:24:41] call the speakers
[3:24:41] >>clerk, robin stieler: mayor
[3:24:45] pro tem david penelosa, paula ga
[3:24:48] elevator, a cassandra perez and
[3:24:51] andrew linares.
[3:24:52] >>vincente sarmiento: MR. Chair,
[3:24:54] I think those comments were
[3:24:55] mistakenly given because they
[3:24:57] wanted to speak on the budget
[3:24:58] item but then we got
[3:25:01] clarification that it was on a
[3:25:01] different item.
[3:25:02] >>chair, doug chaffee: so none
[3:25:03] of them are be present. All
[3:25:05] right, then this is a district 2
[3:25:06] item
[3:25:07] >>vincente sarmiento: I'll move
[3:25:07] the item.
[3:25:09] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[3:25:09] seconded. Any objection?
[3:25:11] Seeing none, item is approved.
[3:25:13] Let's go to 65.
[3:25:14] >>clerk, robin stieler: 65.
[3:25:15] Under county executive office-
[3:25:16] approve amended and restated
[3:25:17] license agreement with james
[3:25:18] productions, inc., for operation
[3:25:20] of public fishing concession and
[3:25:20] development of public
[3:25:21] recreational activities at
[3:25:22] irvine lake, 7/1/26-6/30/31;
[3:25:23] renewable for one-year
[3:25:24] extensions under certain
[3:25:25] conditions; authorize chief real
[3:25:25] estate officer or designee to
[3:25:26] approve extensions, amendments
[3:25:27] and execute license agreement
[3:25:29] under certain conditions; and
[3:25:30] make california environmental
[3:25:31] quality act (Ceqa) Exemption
[3:25:33] findings under ceqa guidelines
[3:25:37] section 15301
[3:25:40] this item does require a 4/5ths
[3:25:41] vote of the members present. We
[3:25:44] have no requests to speak on
[3:25:44] agenda item 65.
[3:25:46] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is a
[3:25:47] district 3 item.
[3:25:48] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[3:25:48] second.
[3:25:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[3:25:50] seconded. Any objection? It's
[3:25:53] unanimous, a 4/5ths vote
[3:25:54] requirement is achieved. Let's
[3:25:56] get to 66, please.
[3:25:57] >>clerk, robin stieler: 66.
[3:25:57] Under county executive office-
[3:25:58] approve contract ma-017-26011314
[3:25:59] with institute for urban
[3:26:00] initiatives for continuum of
[3:26:01] care program technical
[3:26:01] assistance and consulting
[3:26:02] services, 7/1/26-6/30/29
[3:26:03] ($225,000); and authorize county
[3:26:04] procurement officer or deputized
[3:26:04] designee to execute
[3:26:07] contract
[3:26:10] . We have no requests to speak
[3:26:11] on agenda item 66.
[3:26:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: 66 is an
[3:26:13] all-district item.
[3:26:14] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[3:26:16] the item..
[3:26:17] >>chair, doug chaffee: any
[3:26:19] objection? Seeing none, item is
[3:26:20] approved. 67, please.
[3:26:20] >>clerk, robin stieler: 67.
[3:26:21] Under county executive office-
[3:26:22] approve agreement for transfer
[3:26:22] of real property and quitclaim
[3:26:23] deed for transfer of a portion
[3:26:24] of plaza of the fountains to
[3:26:25] city of santa ana; authorize
[3:26:25] chief real estate officer or
[3:26:26] designee to execute agreement,
[3:26:27] quitclaim deed, easement deed
[3:26:28] and related documents
[3:26:30] and take related actions under
[3:26:31] certain conditions; and make
[3:26:32] california environmental quality
[3:26:33] act (Ceqa) Exemption findings
[3:26:35] under ceqa guidelines section
[3:26:43] 15305 and other related findings
[3:26:45] this item does require a 4/5ths
[3:26:46] vote of the members present. We
[3:26:47] have no requests to speak on
[3:26:49] agenda item 67.
[3:26:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[3:26:50] district 2 item
[3:26:51] >>vincente sarmiento: move the
[3:26:51] item.
[3:26:53] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[3:26:53] second.
[3:26:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: any
[3:26:55] objection? Seeing none, item is
[3:26:57] approved. 68, please.
[3:26:57] >>clerk, robin stieler: 68.
[3:26:59] Under county executive office-
[3:26:59] approve memorandum of
[3:27:00] understanding (Mou) With
[3:27:01] superior court of california,
[3:27:01] county of orange for provision
[3:27:02] of services, 7/1/26-6/30/27;
[3:27:03] authorize county executive
[3:27:04] officer or designee to execute
[3:27:05] mou; and authorize county
[3:27:05] procurement officer or
[3:27:06] deputized designee to adjust
[3:27:08] annual contract amount under
[3:27:13] certain conditions
[3:27:14] and we have received one
[3:27:17] requests to speak on agenda item
[3:27:20] 68..
[3:27:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: there's
[3:27:23] one speaker? Please call the
[3:27:24] speaker
[3:27:26] >>clerk, robin stieler: deborah
[3:27:27] donothan.
[3:27:29] >>speaker: hello, I'm deborah
[3:27:31] donothan commenting on item 68,
[3:27:33] the county executive office
[3:27:34] memorandum of understanding with
[3:27:36] the orange county superior
[3:27:39] court. When the county enters
[3:27:40] service agreements with the
[3:27:42] court, the public needs
[3:27:43] transparency about what services
[3:27:45] are being provided, what fund
[3:27:46] something involved and whether
[3:27:49] those services intercept with
[3:27:51] probate, mental health court,
[3:27:53] care court, conservatorship,
[3:27:55] disability services or
[3:27:56] behavioral health placements.
[3:27:58] I'm asking the forward about
[3:28:02] require public reporting ada and
[3:28:05] olmsted safeguards, a clear
[3:28:06] separation between county
[3:28:08] behavioral health funding and
[3:28:10] court processes that MAY result
[3:28:12] in loss of liberty, family
[3:28:14] separation or restrictive
[3:28:14] placement. Thank you.
[3:28:15] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[3:28:15] you.
[3:28:18] >>clerk, robin stieler: no
[3:28:20] further speakers, MR. Chair
[3:28:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[3:28:22] right, item 68 an all-district
[3:28:23] item.
[3:28:24] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[3:28:25] the item
[3:28:26] >>vincente sarmiento: second.
[3:28:26] >>chair, doug chaffee: any
[3:28:28] objection? Seeing none, item is
[3:28:30] approved. 69, please.
[3:28:31] >>clerk, robin stieler: 69.
[3:28:32] Under county executive office-
[3:28:32] approve retroactive amendment 3
[3:28:33] to renew contract ma-017-
[3:28:34] 25011394 with carahsoft
[3:28:35] technology corp for email
[3:28:36] subscription management services
[3:28:38] (Govdelivery), 5/1/26-4/30/27
[3:28:39] ($188,024; cumulative total
[3:28:40] $340,115); and authorize county
[3:28:41] procurement officer or deputized
[3:28:44] designee to execute amendment
[3:28:45] we have no requests to speak on
[3:28:46] agenda item 69.
[3:28:47] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
[3:28:51] all-district item. Moved and
[3:28:52] seconded. Seeing no objection,
[3:28:54] the item is approved. 70,
[3:28:54] please.
[3:28:55] >>clerk, robin stieler: 70.
[3:28:56] Under county executive office-
[3:28:57] approve grant
[3:28:57] applications/awards submitted by
[3:28:58] county executive office, health
[3:28:59] care agency, oc community
[3:29:00] resources, oc waste & recycling
[3:29:01] and sheriff-coroner, ratified
[3:29:02] grant applications/awards
[3:29:03] submitted by county executive
[3:29:04] office, health care agency and
[3:29:05] john wayne airport and
[3:29:07] retroactive grant
[3:29:08] applications/awards submitted by
[3:29:09] oc public works and
[3:29:10] sheriff-coroner in 6/23/26 grant
[3:29:19] report and other actions as recommended
[3:29:21] and we have no requests to speak
[3:29:23] on agenda item 70..
[3:29:25] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is
[3:29:27] an all-district item and our
[3:29:28] grant report.
[3:29:29] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[3:29:31] the item chafed no objection,
[3:29:33] item is approved. 71, please.
[3:29:34] >>clerk, robin stieler: 71.
[3:29:34] Under county executive office-
[3:29:35] approve recommended positions on
[3:29:36] introduced or amended
[3:29:36] legislation and/or consider
[3:29:40] other legislative subject matters
[3:29:42] we have no requests to speak on
[3:29:42] agenda item 71
[3:29:43] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[3:29:47] all-district item. Supervisor
[3:29:47] sarmiento?
[3:29:48] >>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank
[3:29:51] you, MR. Chair. I did want to
[3:29:52] draw attention to something that
[3:29:55] I know this board has been made
[3:29:56] aware of as of late last week,
[3:29:58] even though it was at the 11th
[3:30:03] hour. We had a bill, ab2194
[3:30:07] that was authored by
[3:30:07] assemblymember valencia and was
[3:30:10] carrying a bill for us, which
[3:30:11] was really sort of a simple
[3:30:13] bill. I guess the general
[3:30:14] intent was to stagger terms of
[3:30:17] the appointees to the cal optima
[3:30:18] board of directors. I want to
[3:30:20] thank you, MR. Chair, because I
[3:30:23] know that the author basically
[3:30:27] revised the bill extensively,
[3:30:28] and it is a much different bill
[3:30:30] than what was first proposed by
[3:30:33] this board and supported by this
[3:30:36] board. So it is in essence to
[3:30:38] remove the county supervisors
[3:30:40] from serving on the board of
[3:30:42] directors at cal optima but also
[3:30:43] creating an appointment body
[3:30:47] made up of an assembly member,
[3:30:48] senator, and a member of
[3:30:50] congress that represent medi-cal
[3:30:53] members here in the county. So
[3:30:56] I know that one of the first
[3:30:58] things that you did when we
[3:31:00] received that revisions and that
[3:31:02] new bill was way letter in
[3:31:04] opposition. So I thank you,
[3:31:06] MR. Chair, for doing that
[3:31:07] quickly. You were on the board,
[3:31:09] and you've been served on the
[3:31:11] board of cal optima and you know
[3:31:13] that we have been trying to do
[3:31:15] very good things there under
[3:31:16] some difficult circumstances.
[3:31:18] So, you know, the county's
[3:31:19] operated under a county
[3:31:22] organized health system model
[3:31:23] that's allowed for, you know,
[3:31:25] local leaders, community
[3:31:27] stakeholders, providers, and
[3:31:29] public representatives to have
[3:31:31] meaningful voice in the
[3:31:34] oversight of a multibillion
[3:31:35] dollar organization responsible
[3:31:37] for delivering health care to
[3:31:38] our residents here, especially
[3:31:40] our seniors, those who are
[3:31:43] disabled and low income. So
[3:31:45] today, you know, caloptima is
[3:31:46] arguably one of the strongest
[3:31:48] and most stable it's been. It's
[3:31:50] been under some pressure in the
[3:31:52] past I know our former
[3:31:54] colleague, who is now serving
[3:31:56] five years in federal prison for
[3:31:58] corruption, was the chair. So I
[3:32:00] know the board did a very good
[3:32:03] job of trying to audit a lot of
[3:32:04] the contracts he was involved in
[3:32:06] when he was there serving on the
[3:32:09] board. We've also done
[3:32:12] investigations into issues that
[3:32:15] were concerning and -- to the
[3:32:16] public. But we've also done
[3:32:18] incredible work in making sure
[3:32:20] that there's more transparency
[3:32:21] and better governance there. So
[3:32:24] I do think that it's a much
[3:32:26] better performing board of
[3:32:28] directors and health plan, and I
[3:32:29] think it's something that we can
[3:32:31] all be proud of, which is why we
[3:32:33] were kind of surprised to see a
[3:32:35] very extensively revised bill
[3:32:38] from what was agreed upon here
[3:32:41] at county. And I know there was
[3:32:43] some discussion at the board of
[3:32:45] directors at caloptima about an
[3:32:47] leapt of the original bill,
[3:32:50] which had to do with providing
[3:32:52] closed session information to
[3:32:54] the alternate. There was
[3:32:56] healthy debate. The board
[3:32:58] majority chose to not support
[3:33:01] that part of the bill. But when
[3:33:02] it came back to the county,
[3:33:05] there was no change. So the
[3:33:07] bill stood as it was originally
[3:33:10] drafted, and it included that,
[3:33:14] despite the decision and the
[3:33:15] direction at the caloptima board
[3:33:17] of directors. So I know that,
[3:33:19] you know, tomorrow this bill
[3:33:21] will be heard. This revised
[3:33:22] bill will be heard at the senate
[3:33:25] health committee. And it is
[3:33:27] moving very fast. It is a bill
[3:33:30] that was introduced at 11th
[3:33:31] hour, a very, very different
[3:33:33] version of what this board had
[3:33:34] agreed to support. So one of
[3:33:38] the other elements of this is
[3:33:39] that, you know, what causes
[3:33:41] heightened concern is that
[3:33:43] orange county would become the
[3:33:46] only one of the 34 counties
[3:33:48] served by california's organized
[3:33:51] health system without directly
[3:33:52] elected county board of
[3:33:54] supervisors on its governing
[3:33:57] board. That really makes us an
[3:33:58] outlier and wouldn't have that
[3:34:00] accountability that many of us
[3:34:01] believe is important to have
[3:34:04] elected officials on there.
[3:34:05] There's only two supervisors
[3:34:08] that serve on a nine-person
[3:34:11] board. So we certainly have a
[3:34:14] role, I think, to be responsive
[3:34:15] to the members and to the
[3:34:18] taxpayers here that stand that
[3:34:20] public health plan up. But the
[3:34:23] appointed members have a very
[3:34:26] robust role. I know that for
[3:34:30] the past year, we had the --
[3:34:34] appointed member isabel becerra
[3:34:35] serve as our chair for a year
[3:34:36] and a half. I know the
[3:34:38] vice-chair is a family member.
[3:34:40] She represents a seat on that
[3:34:40] board that, you know, has a
[3:34:43] family member who is a medi-cal
[3:34:44] and caloptima member. We tried
[3:34:47] do as much as we could to make
[3:34:48] sure that appointees on that
[3:34:50] board have no more or no less
[3:34:52] authority than the supervisors.
[3:34:53] Nonetheless, I think supervisors
[3:34:58] have a critical role as all the
[3:35:00] cosystems in the state have
[3:35:02] agreed, that there should be a
[3:35:03] blend of both appointed members
[3:35:06] and elected members. So this
[3:35:09] was a surprise, I know, to
[3:35:11] supervisor nguyen and I, who are
[3:35:12] the supervisors who are
[3:35:14] presently serving on that board
[3:35:16] of directors. And I know that
[3:35:21] we plan to go up to sacramento
[3:35:23] tomorrow just to make sure that
[3:35:24] the committee understands the
[3:35:27] dynamic of what we've been
[3:35:29] trying to do. I think our roles
[3:35:30] as watchdogs on that board as
[3:35:33] well has been well documented.
[3:35:34] I know that a lot of the work
[3:35:36] that has been done has been, you
[3:35:38] know -- just making sure that
[3:35:40] services and programs for our
[3:35:42] caloptima members continue to be
[3:35:46] funded and supported. Just
[3:35:49] recently, we adopted a $430
[3:35:52] million rig provider -- rate
[3:35:53] provider increase to make sure
[3:35:55] that our medi-cal members and
[3:35:57] caloptima members continue to
[3:35:59] receive support from the
[3:35:59] physicians, from the hospitals
[3:36:01] and everybody else in our
[3:36:03] network. And I learned, and
[3:36:05] something that we learned was we
[3:36:08] were the only health plan in the
[3:36:09] entire state, county health plan
[3:36:11] to do that. So that was
[3:36:13] something that was important for
[3:36:14] us to do because we want to
[3:36:16] support our providers so they
[3:36:18] can support our member
[3:36:20] recipients. But I do -- I would
[3:36:22] ask this board to change its
[3:36:24] position from its original
[3:36:27] support position of the original
[3:36:30] draft of ab2194 to an opposed
[3:36:32] position because it's a much
[3:36:34] different bill than what was
[3:36:38] introduced originally. I know
[3:36:39] that our local advocates that
[3:36:43] are on our -- you know, on our
[3:36:45] sacramento side precision have
[3:36:47] been working feverishly to make
[3:36:48] sure that they're able to tell
[3:36:50] our story. We have 10
[3:36:51] opposition letters from some
[3:36:55] very, very strong advocates in
[3:36:57] the -- or stakeholders in the
[3:36:58] health care industry. Both are
[3:37:01] local and state hospital
[3:37:02] association have written
[3:37:04] letters, in addition to many
[3:37:05] others. And I think there is
[3:37:06] some clarity. I think the only
[3:37:08] letters so far that we've seen
[3:37:11] in support was from ocea but we
[3:37:12] were assured that they were
[3:37:14] going to withdraw that and
[3:37:18] submit an oppose letter because
[3:37:19] that -- that letter that they
[3:37:20] originally sent was in support
[3:37:22] of the original draft the bill.
[3:37:25] So there is an urgency to this.
[3:37:28] I believe that supervisors have
[3:37:29] an incredibly critical role.
[3:37:30] This county has stood this plan
[3:37:32] up and has had a seat on that
[3:37:34] table to make sure that there's
[3:37:37] balance, there's accountability,
[3:37:38] and responsiveness to the public
[3:37:40] and to the members that they
[3:37:42] serve. So I would ask that this
[3:37:45] board revise its position from
[3:37:47] support of the original draft of
[3:37:48] the bill to oppose. We
[3:37:49] certainly are grateful to the
[3:37:51] author for carrying the original
[3:37:54] bill. I want to make sure he
[3:37:55] hears publically from me that
[3:37:57] I'd like him to work with us if
[3:37:58] there are any rescissions he'd
[3:38:01] like to make. But these are
[3:38:02] drastic disproportionate changes
[3:38:05] to a bill that was simply meant
[3:38:06] to staring terms of the
[3:38:09] appointed members. So to the
[3:38:11] extent that we can work on
[3:38:15] better governance, more
[3:38:17] partnership between our federal
[3:38:20] and state electeds and
[3:38:22] delegation members here, we're
[3:38:23] certainly open to that. I'm
[3:38:25] certainly open to that as the
[3:38:27] chair of caloptima. And I
[3:38:28] know -- I'm sure this board
[3:38:30] doesn't see any problem with
[3:38:32] working with our federal and
[3:38:34] state partners and making sure
[3:38:36] we improve our work there at the
[3:38:41] public health plan. So that is
[3:38:42] my -- those are my comments,
[3:38:44] MR. Chair. The only other thing
[3:38:47] I would add is that we have
[3:38:48] precision working very hard for
[3:38:50] us. This is kind of a tricky
[3:38:53] moment because those of our --
[3:38:57] my colleagues, supervisor wagner
[3:38:59] and nguyen, who have been in the
[3:39:00] legislature, know that getting
[3:39:01] out of the committee is
[3:39:03] critically important. If it
[3:39:04] doesn't get out of committee,
[3:39:04] the bill doesn't go anywhere.
[3:39:06] But if it does get out of
[3:39:07] committee and goes to the floor,
[3:39:10] then it gets trickier. So to
[3:39:11] the extent that also an appetite
[3:39:14] to maybe engage, you know, an
[3:39:16] outside advocacy firm that will
[3:39:18] help on the senate side, I think
[3:39:20] that's something that we should
[3:39:20] consider.
[3:39:23] I know precision has been doing
[3:39:24] a lot. They have a lot in -- on
[3:39:26] their plate. But just something
[3:39:28] for us to consider because this
[3:39:33] is a very, very, again, you
[3:39:34] know, change in direction for
[3:39:39] what this board's role is on
[3:39:40] caloptima is. I'll leave it at
[3:39:43] that and hand the mike back to
[3:39:43] you.
[3:39:44] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[3:39:47] for your explanation.
[3:39:48] supervisor nguyen
[3:39:49] >>janet nguyen: thank you,
[3:39:50] MR. CHAIRMAN. Yeah. This was a
[3:39:53] big surprise. It was a gut and
[3:39:55] amend bill. I have had the
[3:39:56] opportunity to talk with to the
[3:39:59] assembly man, and I appreciate
[3:40:01] the conversation. I was able to
[3:40:02] spend some time with him and
[3:40:05] went through the changes of
[3:40:07] caloptima since actually I was
[3:40:09] the one who originally started
[3:40:11] the change in caloptima.
[3:40:13] Originally caloptima only had
[3:40:15] one board of supervisors. And,
[3:40:17] you know, my first original
[3:40:18] change was to include two county
[3:40:21] supervisors because it is a 4.5
[3:40:23] billion budget. I believe it
[3:40:26] should warrant a minimum two
[3:40:28] county supervisors' attention,
[3:40:30] and it is also -- oversees
[3:40:31] almost a million individuals on
[3:40:34] medi-cal of our 3.2 million
[3:40:36] residents. So I believe that
[3:40:38] having two county supervisors on
[3:40:40] the board with an alternate
[3:40:42] gives the attention caloptima
[3:40:45] needs and gives also the -- you
[3:40:47] know, the concerns of the
[3:40:48] residents who are on med came.
[3:40:51] My district currently is the
[3:40:54] second largest med came
[3:40:55] recipients in orange county. My
[3:40:57] original district that included
[3:41:01] santa ana was the number 1.
[3:41:03] Supervisor sarmiento has the
[3:41:06] highest number. And we separate
[3:41:08] about 100,000 residents apart
[3:41:11] between the first and second.
[3:41:12] So I went through and explained
[3:41:14] all that to him. And, you know,
[3:41:16] what I do appreciate is that I
[3:41:20] think we -- us and the assembly
[3:41:21] man, we do share the same goal
[3:41:23] of ensuring strong oversight,
[3:41:25] accountability and transparency
[3:41:27] while trying to prevent the type
[3:41:29] of corruption and manage
[3:41:31] management that occurred under
[3:41:33] the previous supervisor. And so
[3:41:35] I ask him whether the
[3:41:37] restructuring the governance
[3:41:39] model now through his new gut
[3:41:40] and amend bill, that I believe
[3:41:45] we can work together to strain
[3:41:47] caloptima's oversight, implement
[3:41:48] meaningful reforms, protect
[3:41:50] taxpayers, members and the
[3:41:52] public trust as well. So I know
[3:41:53] a lot of things have been
[3:41:55] happening since the weekend. I
[3:41:57] reached out to the member of the
[3:41:58] senate health committee as well
[3:42:04] as I formerly have -- majority
[3:42:06] my time up there, I served as
[3:42:07] vice-chair of senate health. So
[3:42:08] I'm very familiar, and it is
[3:42:10] going to be a long day tomorrow.
[3:42:11] It is the last day of that
[3:42:12] committee hearing. And it will
[3:42:14] also be my first time going back
[3:42:15] to sacramento since I came back
[3:42:18] here to the -- since I came back
[3:42:20] here to the county, so I'm
[3:42:21] actually excited to see some of
[3:42:23] my former colleagues as well.
[3:42:26] But to add to that, one is to
[3:42:29] clarify ocea did send a letter,
[3:42:31] resending their original support
[3:42:33] as of late last night. And so
[3:42:35] they do not -- so there is
[3:42:37] currently no support for this
[3:42:39] bill at all. So every
[3:42:42] stakeholder in orange county,
[3:42:43] bipartisan has actually stepped
[3:42:46] up and is in opposition of the
[3:42:50] bill. And on top of that, I do
[3:42:53] agree with supervisor sarmiento,
[3:42:54] that, you know, if there's an
[3:42:57] opportunity, I think the board
[3:43:01] should and could engage in
[3:43:03] additional advocacy of working
[3:43:04] alongside precision to continue
[3:43:07] to work the bill if it does pass
[3:43:08] the senate health committee.
[3:43:13] There's been a lot of direction
[3:43:18] from the caucus, from the health
[3:43:20] senate caucus recommendation,
[3:43:23] and so it's ongoing. And so I'm
[3:43:26] hopeful that there would be some
[3:43:28] resolution to -- for us to work
[3:43:32] with the assembly man going
[3:43:33] forward for any opportunity. If
[3:43:34] he sees something that we
[3:43:36] don't -- that we haven't seen,
[3:43:39] let's work together because in
[3:43:40] our conversation it's -- you
[3:43:41] know, it's been a very good
[3:43:43] conversation. And so I'm hoping
[3:43:45] that we can partner with him.
[3:43:47] And so with that, MR. CHAIRMAN,
[3:43:49] I would like to make a motion
[3:43:53] that we oppose the current gut
[3:43:55] and amend bill and also allow
[3:43:59] the chair and/or the ceo, if
[3:44:04] sees fit, to add in -- to hire
[3:44:06] on new additional -- not new,
[3:44:08] additional advocacy if this
[3:44:10] moves forward out of the senate
[3:44:11] health committee tomorrow. So
[3:44:12] that would be my motion,
[3:44:13] MR. CHAIRMAN.
[3:44:14] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[3:44:16] you. And it's moved and
[3:44:18] seconded. Vice-chair..
[3:44:19] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[3:44:20] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. And thank
[3:44:23] you to my colleagues for
[3:44:26] sharing. I had a chance to meet
[3:44:28] with assemblymember valencia
[3:44:30] when I was in sacramento last
[3:44:34] week. I was there to testify on
[3:44:37] our county sponsored nitrous
[3:44:39] oxide ban bill, and that did get
[3:44:40] out of committee. 19-0. Happy
[3:44:42] to hear. But we did have a
[3:44:43] chance because this landed that
[3:44:48] same day. So I had a chance to
[3:44:50] talk with the assembly man.
[3:44:52] And, you know, I'm not going to
[3:44:54] get involved in relitigating
[3:44:56] every issue that relates to
[3:44:57] caloptima and what happened and
[3:44:58] didn't happen and what kind of
[3:45:00] triggered this for him as it
[3:45:02] relates to some of the decisions
[3:45:04] by the caloptima board, but what
[3:45:08] I did hear him say, and I am
[3:45:10] concerned about, is that his
[3:45:12] office reached out several times
[3:45:16] to us to ask about clarification
[3:45:18] because there was conflicting
[3:45:20] information of position coming
[3:45:22] out of the caloptima board and
[3:45:24] the county board. And -- where
[3:45:27] we have two board members 60 on
[3:45:28] the caloptima board and yet we
[3:45:30] had two different positions.
[3:45:35] And so they reached out, and
[3:45:37] nobody responded. And so I
[3:45:41] think that that also caused a
[3:45:44] concern, and I think that we
[3:45:46] need to, you know, as a
[3:45:49] procedural matter, if there's a
[3:45:51] board office sponsoring a bill,
[3:45:53] then maybe they should be the
[3:45:54] point person to respond. Or if
[3:45:55] they're not available to
[3:45:57] respond, then the CHAIRMAN
[3:45:58] Should respond. But someone
[3:46:01] needs to respond. My bigger
[3:46:06] worry with this is that we
[3:46:08] have -- now, this is a couple of
[3:46:09] pieces of legislation over the
[3:46:12] last couple of years that are
[3:46:14] directed over at county of
[3:46:15] orange board of supervisors.
[3:46:16] And it really sends the wrong
[3:46:18] message to the state legislature
[3:46:23] about the work we're doing here,
[3:46:26] about whether or not legislators
[3:46:27] should carry a bill for us, and
[3:46:29] wonder if our position might
[3:46:31] shift at a later time. So I
[3:46:33] hope that doesn't happen. I
[3:46:34] hope these issues can get
[3:46:37] resolved. There are some
[3:46:39] elements to the gut and amend
[3:46:41] revised bill that I do think are
[3:46:44] valued. And I so I would ask
[3:46:46] that you take a position of
[3:46:50] oppose unless amended. I do
[3:46:52] think that it is important to
[3:46:55] have the health care director
[3:46:57] and the social services agency's
[3:46:59] director as voting members on
[3:47:01] the board. I think that they
[3:47:03] are integral to the operations
[3:47:07] of how do we serve the community
[3:47:08] being served. And so I actually
[3:47:15] do agree with that. I think
[3:47:17] that -- what the assembly man
[3:47:20] told me is that he was removing
[3:47:21] the three elected officials that
[3:47:22] he had proposed for the
[3:47:23] selection committee. And just
[3:47:24] to be clear, he wasn't proposing
[3:47:26] the three elected officials to
[3:47:28] sit on the actual caloptima
[3:47:30] board. They were just being
[3:47:32] proposed on a selection
[3:47:33] committee to select the board
[3:47:36] members for the caloptima board,
[3:47:38] which he has shared with me that
[3:47:40] he is removing them. I don't
[3:47:43] know if that's happened yet, and
[3:47:46] so I also shared with him that
[3:47:48] the selection committee didn't
[3:47:49] have a procedure on how to
[3:47:51] select people. So that, if it
[3:47:54] goes forward, would have to get
[3:47:56] corrected. So my concern that
[3:48:02] there is support for this bill
[3:48:08] and I would like us to see an
[3:48:12] oppose, unless amended, another
[3:48:13] amendment that would of course
[3:48:14] support adding our two county
[3:48:16] board members back on the
[3:48:17] caloptima board. I do think
[3:48:19] there's value having the board
[3:48:21] member there is. I think if
[3:48:23] this selection committee is
[3:48:25] created, then that might solve a
[3:48:29] concern that he has about undue
[3:48:30] influence by the board and
[3:48:31] selecting all the board members
[3:48:36] for caloptima. So I support my
[3:48:41] colleagues in trying to advocate
[3:48:44] to maintain the board as is or
[3:48:46] to at least get some changes
[3:48:49] into this bill to benefit the
[3:48:50] county and to maintain two
[3:48:53] positions on that board. But I
[3:48:55] worry that if we just take an
[3:49:00] opposition position, that we are
[3:49:03] not going to be successful. So
[3:49:05] I'd like to request the maker of
[3:49:07] the notion change your motion to
[3:49:10] oppose unless amended..
[3:49:11] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[3:49:13] for that. At this point, I must
[3:49:14] comment. As soon as we found
[3:49:17] out theres a need for
[3:49:18] clarification coming from the
[3:49:21] assembly man, that very day, we
[3:49:24] prepare adler to transmit. It
[3:49:25] was ready the next day. There
[3:49:27] was no delay in responding to
[3:49:28] him at all from the time he made
[3:49:33] his request. Before we could
[3:49:34] transmit letter, we learned he
[3:49:37] changed the bill. So it's
[3:49:38] totally false that we didn't get
[3:49:40] back to him on time. We tried
[3:49:43] to immediately. He had this
[3:49:45] premeditated ahead of time. You
[3:49:48] can't make that dramatic a
[3:49:51] change overnight. It was very
[3:49:52] detailed change. Curiously win
[3:49:55] read this amended version, it
[3:49:58] would put him on a selection
[3:50:00] committee. He's running for the
[3:50:02] state senate and that's one of
[3:50:03] the offices he had selected in
[3:50:06] that bill. So I do not agree to
[3:50:13] that position of amended with --
[3:50:15] -- posed unless amended. It's a
[3:50:17] horrible bill. It just needs to
[3:50:19] be killed moving forward.
[3:50:21] Original idea, which we
[3:50:24] promoted, was a bill we were
[3:50:25] sponsoring, was simply to
[3:50:26] stagger the terms of the
[3:50:28] caloptima board so you have some
[3:50:32] fep from year to year and get
[3:50:33] better continuity and the other
[3:50:38] was kind of an odd issue where
[3:50:40] the interpretation is are you an
[3:50:41] at facility that -- we do have
[3:50:42] an alternate -- that you
[3:50:46] couldn't have any closed session
[3:50:47] material in advance unless you
[3:50:50] suddenly became the person
[3:50:52] involved. I'm that alternate.
[3:50:54] I don't really have any interest
[3:50:55] in that. But it made it
[3:50:58] difficult to be prepared if you
[3:51:02] weren't going to be involved in
[3:51:04] that, as a good government that
[3:51:06] allows people to be prepared.
[3:51:07] It's the only board I know of
[3:51:09] that doesn't allow alternates to
[3:51:10] have the closed session
[3:51:12] materials so they can be
[3:51:14] prepared to respond. With that,
[3:51:14] supervisor nguyen
[3:51:15] >>janet nguyen: thank you,
[3:51:17] MR. CHAIRMAN. I want to kind of
[3:51:18] just respond to some of the
[3:51:19] comments that were just made
[3:51:20] from my colleagues. I did reach
[3:51:25] out to the assembly man after I
[3:51:27] was -- when it was mentioned
[3:51:30] that the county did not respond.
[3:51:33] I want to hands with that was
[3:51:34] so I could share with my
[3:51:35] colleagues. The assembly man
[3:51:38] did reach out to the county on
[3:51:40] MAY 22nd. And that is
[3:51:42] actually the second day of the
[3:51:44] garden grove incident. As you
[3:51:49] know, my office, your offices
[3:51:51] were all -- and the county was
[3:51:54] hands on deck in garden grove.
[3:51:57] And so there was confusion, and
[3:52:00] I think in our office, also, we
[3:52:02] assumed that since I voted
[3:52:04] against the recommendation from
[3:52:06] caloptima, I was actually the
[3:52:07] one no vote because I do agree
[3:52:09] that the alternate should have
[3:52:10] that information. They should
[3:52:12] have the information as they're
[3:52:13] heading into closed session and
[3:52:16] dis% they -- they shouldn't get
[3:52:18] it before. And that was kind of
[3:52:20] my explanation at caloptima.
[3:52:23] But regardless, you know, that
[3:52:24] was during the time when the
[3:52:26] county was -- wasn't able to
[3:52:29] respond. And I did personally
[3:52:31] apologize to the assembly man if
[3:52:32] there was a lack of -- but I
[3:52:34] don't think there was a --
[3:52:36] definitely, there was no
[3:52:37] intention of a sign of any
[3:52:39] disrespect or lack of interest
[3:52:40] from the county. So I've shared
[3:52:43] that with him. I do know that
[3:52:45] we -- the county-led staff did
[3:52:48] reach out on JUNE 2nd to his
[3:52:49] chief of staff, obviously from
[3:52:51] 22nd to JUNE 2nd is quite a
[3:52:52] difference in number of days,
[3:52:53] but we did have the incident.
[3:52:55] And I also mentioned to the
[3:52:57] assembly man, I do appreciate
[3:52:58] him because during the incident
[3:52:59] he actually reached out to me,
[3:53:01] offering if he could be of any
[3:53:03] help, offering that anaheim has
[3:53:05] hotels that they're -- you know,
[3:53:07] he's talked to the hotels that
[3:53:09] they're opening up to try to
[3:53:10] help garden grove residents and
[3:53:13] not just garden grove, but any
[3:53:15] residents in the area, as well.
[3:53:16] So I think that's a lack of
[3:53:20] miscommunication and lack of --
[3:53:21] basically, lack of communication
[3:53:24] between the two sides. And so I
[3:53:26] did personally apologize to
[3:53:26] that.
[3:53:30] In regards to the aca and ssa,
[3:53:32] the reason why I originally did
[3:53:36] not want to include hca and ssa
[3:53:39] as voting members is to show
[3:53:42] that that would add more votes
[3:53:44] to the county. I wanted to show
[3:53:45] that there isn't that bias from
[3:53:47] the county's side. So if you
[3:53:49] add hca and ssa as voting
[3:53:52] members, that would add two
[3:53:53] sprofers supervises. That's
[3:53:55] four voting members that could
[3:53:56] potentially be considered, you
[3:53:58] know, to some folks a self
[3:54:00] interest from the county's side.
[3:54:03] And so when I did the original
[3:54:05] change back in -- almost 15
[3:54:09] years ago, it was not to -- yes.
[3:54:11] The importance of hca being
[3:54:12] there at the table is extremely
[3:54:18] important and she's very
[3:54:19] valuable -- he or she, is very
[3:54:21] valuable for that dispoj that
[3:54:24] information. Because we do do
[3:54:25] the behavioral health of the
[3:54:28] county. And in working with
[3:54:30] caloptima and also the
[3:54:31] eligibility worker vice-versa.
[3:54:35] So I stand by not wanting hca or
[3:54:38] ssa to be a voting member. And
[3:54:41] so I don't -- I would not be --
[3:54:44] withdraw my -- revising my
[3:54:47] motion. And second with the
[3:54:51] selection committee, you know I
[3:54:52] think it's still problem make
[3:54:54] the, even removing those
[3:54:56] senators, the assemblymember and
[3:54:58] congressional members. I did
[3:55:00] share with the assembly man why
[3:55:02] that part itself is problematic
[3:55:04] because they -- all due respect
[3:55:09] to those members -- haven't been
[3:55:11] one. They don't see the daily
[3:55:13] operations that we see here in
[3:55:15] health care. And they're in
[3:55:17] sacramento or D.C., so
[3:55:18] ultimately it might be their
[3:55:20] staff that come to be on that
[3:55:21] slashing committee. So I
[3:55:23] understood that, and he did
[3:55:25] mention he would look at me
[3:55:27] moving that part of it. I said
[3:55:29] the rest of it is also
[3:55:31] problematic because you have now
[3:55:32] selection committee members who
[3:55:34] would be appointing themselves.
[3:55:35] You've got representatives from
[3:55:36] the hospital, from thing you
[3:55:37] know, all of the other
[3:55:38] representatives. They're
[3:55:39] actually the ones we're
[3:55:41] selecting to be on that
[3:55:43] committee, on that board. And
[3:55:45] so now they're self-selecting
[3:55:46] themselves. And I don't think
[3:55:50] that should be it. Think the
[3:55:51] current system, the which it's
[3:55:53] working, not perfect, but I
[3:55:54] think my intention originally is
[3:55:57] to make it fair and balanced.
[3:56:00] To making sure that the members
[3:56:01] of caloptima whose actually in
[3:56:04] the system is there, as well.
[3:56:06] My original intent was that that
[3:56:09] individual get a stipend, get
[3:56:12] transportation stipend. Get a
[3:56:14] daily stipend to show up and be
[3:56:16] at these meetings because it is
[3:56:18] difficult for them in terms of
[3:56:20] financially. So that was all
[3:56:23] the original intent. I think
[3:56:26] that keeping at board of
[3:56:26] supervisors, there is a
[3:56:29] processed, and, you know, I it
[3:56:32] has been working? Is it
[3:56:33] perfect? Absolutely not. None
[3:56:36] of the systems are. We'll
[3:56:38] always look at it and look to
[3:56:39] consider amendments. At this
[3:56:40] moment right now in time is that
[3:56:42] the bill and the recommendation
[3:56:45] even at the caucus itself right
[3:56:50] now is no, is not support bill
[3:56:52] for the democratic caucus and
[3:56:53] also the republican caucus.
[3:56:55] There's a lot of moving parts
[3:56:57] right now. And I think, you
[3:57:00] know, tomorrow be a long day
[3:57:02] because he is the 14th member
[3:57:05] on that -- author for tomorrow's
[3:57:06] agenda. And it's file order
[3:57:09] only. And so we wouldn't know
[3:57:11] when the bill's gonna be heard
[3:57:13] and what the negotiation from
[3:57:14] now into tomorrow as well. So
[3:57:17] it's a moving target, and I
[3:57:19] just -- I'm just hopeful that he
[3:57:21] would just that I believe and
[3:57:23] make it maybe a two-year bill or
[3:57:25] can start over with us and work
[3:57:26] on something.
[3:57:27] But I cannot
[3:57:30] support right now, you know,
[3:57:34] hca, and then add on ssa as well
[3:57:35] unless we have that longer
[3:57:36] discussion, because I don't want
[3:57:41] to make these, you know -- these
[3:57:42] decisions last minute, just no
[3:57:45] different than I'm not a big fan
[3:57:50] when I was in the legislature.
[3:57:52] We don't like the bills that
[3:57:55] don't pass at all. It's unfair.
[3:57:56] But I think we're in a good
[3:57:58] position. Assembly image, we're
[3:58:01] willing to work with you, if
[3:58:04] there's a lot we could do
[3:58:06] together in reform, but let's
[3:58:08] move forward and have those
[3:58:09] conversations
[3:58:09] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[3:58:10] supervisor sarmiento?
[3:58:11] >>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank
[3:58:13] you, chair. I won't repeat a
[3:58:15] lot of what was said but I think
[3:58:17] anytime something is done sort
[3:58:21] of at the 11th hour, the
[3:58:24] legislative cycle is kinding up,
[3:58:27] and for there could be a
[3:58:30] complete remediation and
[3:58:31] deviation and departure from
[3:58:33] what was originally agreed to,
[3:58:36] it becomes a partner because you
[3:58:43] then can't vet with these
[3:58:47] questions in coming up. The
[3:58:52] supervisor was referencing --
[3:58:54] the toxic problem with a
[3:58:57] chemical facility here in garden
[3:59:00] grove, gkn, that weekend, had
[3:59:02] all of us a little bit on our
[3:59:03] heels. I know when we spoke
[3:59:05] with peter and his team, they
[3:59:08] tried to, I believe, message as
[3:59:11] quickly as they could. We have
[3:59:12] certainly do better. There's no
[3:59:15] doubt about it. I just feel
[3:59:20] that this is a different
[3:59:21] proportional responsive to that.
[3:59:22] There was a delay getting back
[3:59:25] to the author to completely
[3:59:26] undermine the way the board of
[3:59:28] supervisors is configured and
[3:59:31] selected to remove the
[3:59:34] supervisors from this bad from
[3:59:38] serving on there and something
[3:59:38] accountable and working with
[3:59:40] their employees is very that is
[3:59:44] a very drastic departure. I
[3:59:45] know DR. Kelley serves with us
[3:59:50] on that board representing hca.
[3:59:53] She is always a resource for
[3:59:54] everyone on the board. And
[3:59:57] because we're supervisors, we
[3:59:57] oversee the entire incident
[3:59:59] great thing you know, health
[4:00:03] care number here in county. It
[4:00:04] certainly does really help to
[4:00:06] have her on there. So I
[4:00:09] certainly appreciate her role.
[4:00:15] Du I do ble that CHAIRMAN And --
[4:00:19] that doing an oppose unless
[4:00:20] amended I think really won't get
[4:00:25] us there. I think that -- the
[4:00:28] point is this is a very
[4:00:29] difficult bill now to try to
[4:00:30] work on. I don't think an
[4:00:33] amended version of this bill
[4:00:34] will get the author back on
[4:00:36] board. I just think that there
[4:00:39] has to be some support for
[4:00:40] saying let's work on something
[4:00:43] with a clean slate. Let's come
[4:00:45] back and completey open to
[4:00:48] sitting down and working withing
[4:00:50] author and his staff to go
[4:00:52] through this. And if you has
[4:01:00] the votes, to get it there.
[4:01:01] Will get through in any event.
[4:01:03] I'm hoping that'll be reasonable
[4:01:05] and realize that there is
[4:01:08] nothing egregious or nefarious
[4:01:10] to trigger this sort of drastic
[4:01:13] change in a bill that was very,
[4:01:15] very benign, and it was simply
[4:01:18] meant to -- to introduce better
[4:01:19] governance to staring those
[4:01:21] seats on there. And the only
[4:01:23] reason there was some discussion
[4:01:25] and a difference of opinion on
[4:01:27] having alternates have access to
[4:01:29] closed session information was
[4:01:32] the general counsel at caloptima
[4:01:37] said that accessing information
[4:01:39] information -- and with wasn't
[4:01:41] just going to be when somebody
[4:01:44] was coming in but information on
[4:01:46] alternates all the time. It
[4:01:47] could breach the privilege that
[4:01:49] we know is protected by closed
[4:01:50] session. So that was the simple
[4:01:54] debate on that. But I think,
[4:01:56] again, we could, you know,
[4:01:57] deliberate and talk about, you
[4:01:59] know, us being quicker on the
[4:02:01] response to the author and
[4:02:02] responding and engaging, and I
[4:02:04] think we certainly can do
[4:02:05] better, that's why we have a
[4:02:07] legislative team. But at this
[4:02:11] point, I think that we need to
[4:02:12] hold fast. I don't want the
[4:02:15] county to be singled out as an
[4:02:17] outlier being the only health
[4:02:20] plan in the state that doesn't
[4:02:22] have county representatives
[4:02:23] serving on there and being
[4:02:25] accountable to the public. That
[4:02:28] to me would be a more
[4:02:30] disappointing conclusion of all
[4:02:33] this because, again, I think
[4:02:36] what was said, it's now the
[4:02:38] second time that the county has
[4:02:38] singled out in all of the
[4:02:42] counties for things that I don't
[4:02:45] believe are warranted. There's
[4:02:46] nothing that warrants this
[4:02:55] change at caloptima for the
[4:02:57] previous departure from where it
[4:03:00] was originally done. In any
[4:03:00] event, MR. Chair, I think you
[4:03:02] have a motion and a second on
[4:03:03] the floor.
[4:03:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: oh, yes.
[4:03:05] Okay, supervisor foley, you've
[4:03:08] already spoken, so pleads be
[4:03:08] quick.
[4:03:08] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[4:03:10] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. Thank you,
[4:03:11] supervisor nguyen. I appreciate
[4:03:15] the insight, and I guess I would
[4:03:17] just appeal one more time to
[4:03:20] this idea of a -- what I'm going
[4:03:22] to consider an olive branch to
[4:03:25] the assembly man by saying it
[4:03:26] doesn't have to be specific
[4:03:28] things in the bill, but maybe
[4:03:30] just the opening of the opposed
[4:03:32] unless amended. Because to your
[4:03:35] point, let's work on it, make it
[4:03:37] a two-year bill and make is
[4:03:39] something that we can all
[4:03:40] collaborate on. I just don't
[4:03:42] know how successful we will
[4:03:45] being if we just take this
[4:03:51] aggress excessive -- aggressive
[4:03:53] opposed position given what
[4:03:55] happened the last time we did
[4:03:56] that with the assembly man. So
[4:03:59] my concern is that if we're not
[4:04:00] showing some effort to
[4:04:02] understand what his concerns
[4:04:04] with and we're just taking an
[4:04:06] aggression, opposition position,
[4:04:07] we might be putting ourselves in
[4:04:09] a negative bargaining position.
[4:04:16] So that's the only reason -- and
[4:04:18] I can guarantee you they're
[4:04:20] watching our meeting right now.
[4:04:20] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[4:04:21] supervisor nguyen
[4:04:22] >>janet nguyen: and I agree.
[4:04:26] They are. I was -- I'd do the
[4:04:28] same. I think there's a
[4:04:29] difference between the last bill
[4:04:35] and this one. And so full
[4:04:36] disclosure, I supported the last
[4:04:38] bill in the senate. I voted for
[4:04:40] it. The difference is that
[4:04:41] there was something that
[4:04:44] triggered the last bill. It's
[4:04:45] unfortunate, but there was
[4:04:46] something and it was a
[4:04:48] corruption scandal by a city's
[4:04:50] supervisor. That's what
[4:04:53] triggered. This bill, you have
[4:04:57] no trigger. Two supervisors who
[4:05:00] have been at forefront in trying
[4:05:03] to ask the questions at
[4:05:04] caloptima. Everything I say
[4:05:07] here the assembly man has heard.
[4:05:13] And so I don't think that this
[4:05:16] warrant us in doing a, you know,
[4:05:20] opposed and yet it's amended to
[4:05:26] go back to the original bill.
[4:05:29] So again, I oppose this bill and
[4:05:33] also move that -- the CHAIRMAN
[4:05:37] And/or the ceo can authorize any
[4:05:39] additional advocacy efforts if
[4:05:43] need to if bill moves forward.
[4:05:45] And so, you know, I think
[4:05:46] there's a lot of moving parts,
[4:05:51] and I think -- I'm hopeful
[4:05:53] because I've worked with the
[4:05:55] assembly men or other things in
[4:05:57] the past and reminded him of
[4:05:59] that as well. So with that, I
[4:06:01] continue with my motion,
[4:06:04] mr. CHAIRMAN. I also do,
[4:06:05] MR. CHAIRMAN -- I do have a
[4:06:06] comment I would like to make on
[4:06:08] the other bill. I can make that
[4:06:11] comment, too? Or should we do
[4:06:13] this one first and then dot
[4:06:13] other.
[4:06:14] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[4:06:15] right. We have a motion on this
[4:06:18] bill. I'm not sure we have a
[4:06:25] unanimous board. MADAM Clerk...
[4:06:32] [Calling roll]
[4:06:33] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
[4:06:34] support the effort because I
[4:06:36] want to be supportive of my
[4:06:37] colleagues, but I do hope that
[4:06:40] we go in in a collaborative
[4:06:41] spirited. Thank you.
[4:06:42] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[4:06:44] you. We do have a unanimous
[4:06:48] vote. So thank you supervisors
[4:06:49] nguyen and sarmiento for your
[4:06:52] efforts on this. So now you
[4:06:54] mentioned -- this isn't
[4:06:55] complete. This is just one
[4:06:58] bill. So you're right,
[4:07:00] supervisor nguyen, if you'd like
[4:07:01] to comment on another bill
[4:07:03] >>janet nguyen: ab760 is a
[4:07:04] similar bill, actually a
[4:07:07] duplicate of a bill that I
[4:07:09] authored when I was in the
[4:07:13] senate and the senate work diane
[4:07:14] exhibitionxon coaught twhord me.
[4:07:18] It was after the huntington
[4:07:20] beach oil still in 2021. At
[4:07:23] that time we identify that the
[4:07:26] victims who be passed on --
[4:07:29] making them be taxed on
[4:07:30] settlement payments. So our
[4:07:32] bill was to make sure that
[4:07:34] anybody who received individuals
[4:07:37] and business who received
[4:07:39] settlement by -- because of the
[4:07:40] oil spill, will not be taxed.
[4:07:47] And because ab760 is a depict of
[4:07:48] that, and the reason is is that
[4:07:52] the independent in garden grow.
[4:07:57] Hazmat incidents they will not
[4:08:01] be taxed
[4:08:04] ed the settlement that
[4:08:11] is an income and this memory.
[4:08:12] This bill would make sure that
[4:08:14] the funds that they received and
[4:08:18] the settlement would not be
[4:08:21] considered as a -- as an income
[4:08:23] to be tasked by the state. So
[4:08:26] with that, I move the bill
[4:08:27] >>chair, doug chaffee: any
[4:08:28] objection? I think we're done
[4:08:30] now. Anything else on this
[4:08:32] item? All right, the item moves
[4:08:39] on. We have voted. Now we come
[4:08:41] to 72, which is the airport.
[4:08:46] And we have 72 through 76 that
[4:08:47] are airport matters. If there
[4:08:50] are no objections, I'd like to
[4:08:52] take them as a group. MADAM
[4:08:54] Clerk, would you go forward with
[4:08:56] item 72 through 76.
[4:08:56] >>clerk, robin stieler: 72.
[4:08:57] Under john wayne airport-
[4:08:57] approve contract ma-280-26011379
[4:08:58] with bridgenet international,
[4:08:59] inc. Dba bridgenet international
[4:08:59] for airport noise monitoring
[4:09:00] system services, 9/1/26-
[4:09:01] 8/31/31 ($1,858,003), authorize
[4:09:01] county procurement officer or
[4:09:02] deputized designee to execute
[4:09:02] contract; and make california
[4:09:03] environmental quality act (Ceqa)
[4:09:04] Exemption findings under ceqa
[4:09:11] guidelines section 15301
[4:09:12] >>clerk, robin stieler: 73.
[4:09:13] Under john wayne airport-
[4:09:14] approve contract ma-280-26011292
[4:09:14] with transcore, lp for hardware
[4:09:15] and software maintenance
[4:09:16] services, 9/1/26-8/31/31
[4:09:17] ($494,390); authorize county
[4:09:18] procurement officer or deputized
[4:09:19] designee to execute contract;
[4:09:19] and make california
[4:09:20] environmental quality
[4:09:21] act (Ceqa) Exemption findings
[4:09:25] under ceqa guidelines section 15301.
[4:09:26] >>clerk, robin stieler: 74.
[4:09:27] Under john wayne airport-
[4:09:28] approve model aggregate contract
[4:09:28] ma-280-26011036 for airport
[4:09:29] materials testing and inspection
[4:09:29] services, 7/23/26-7/22/29
[4:09:30] ($6,000,000); select and approve
[4:09:31] respondents from solicitation
[4:09:31] ranking results list; and
[4:09:32] authorize county procurement
[4:09:33] officer or deputized designee to
[4:09:33] negotiate and execute contract
[4:09:34] with selected respondents under
[4:09:40] certain conditions
[4:09:41] >>clerk, robin stieler: 75.
[4:09:42] Under john wayne airport-
[4:09:42] approve model aggregate contract
[4:09:43] ma-280-26011042 for airport
[4:09:43] planning and programming
[4:09:44] services, 7/23/26-7/22/29
[4:09:45] (Aggregate total $3,000,000);
[4:09:46] select and approve respondents
[4:09:47] from solicitation ranking
[4:09:48] results list; and authorize
[4:09:48] county procurement
[4:09:49] officer or deputized designee to
[4:09:50] negotiate and execute contract
[4:09:51] with selected respondents under
[4:10:02] certain conditions
[4:10:03] >>clerk, robin stieler: 76.
[4:10:04] Under john wayne airport-
[4:10:05] approve aggregate contract
[4:10:06] ma-280-26011375 with frasca &
[4:10:08] associates, llc., unison
[4:10:10] consulting, inc. And ricondo &
[4:10:10] associates, inc. For airport
[4:10:12] commercial consulting
[4:10:14] services-airlines, three-year
[4:10:14] term (Aggregate total
[4:10:15] $1,100,000); renewable for one
[4:10:16] additional two-year term;
[4:10:16] authorize county procurement
[4:10:17] officer or deputized designee to
[4:10:18] execute contracts;
[4:10:19] authorize director or designee
[4:10:19] to exercise cost contingency
[4:10:20] increase not to exceed 10% under
[4:10:21] certain conditions; and make
[4:10:21] california environmental quality
[4:10:22] act (Ceqa) Exemption findings
[4:10:33] under ceqa guidelines section 15378.
[4:10:37] We have no requests to speak on
[4:10:41] these items
[4:10:42] >>chair, doug chaffee: these are
[4:10:43] all district 4 items.
[4:10:44] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
[4:10:46] move the items, and as it
[4:10:52] relates to 74, we'll move the
[4:10:56] klein felder and sir turner rma
[4:10:58] group to provide the materials,
[4:11:08] and as it receipts to 75 there's
[4:11:14] wsphmntb and kimly horn it looks
[4:11:17] like they wanted all three.
[4:11:17] Yes.
[4:11:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: did that
[4:11:20] cover it? I think it got all of
[4:11:23] the renders. It's been moved.
[4:11:25] I will second that item. Any
[4:11:27] objection? Those items are
[4:11:28] approved with the selection of
[4:11:35] the vendors.. Now we go to 77.
[4:11:36] >>clerk, robin stieler: 77.
[4:11:36] Under oc community resources-
[4:11:37] approve amendment 2 to
[4:11:38] cooperative agreement c-1-3446
[4:11:38] with orange county
[4:11:39] transportation authority for
[4:11:40] senior non-emergency medical
[4:11:40] transportation services, 7/1/26
[4:11:41] -6/30/31, in an award amount up
[4:11:41] to 1% of net measure m2
[4:11:42] revenues; and authorize director
[4:11:43] or designee to execute amendment
[4:11:43] 78. Oc community resources-
[4:11:48] select and approve respondent
[4:11:52] -- we have no requests to speak
[4:11:53] on agenda item 77
[4:11:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is
[4:11:57] an all-district item.
[4:11:58] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[4:11:58] the item.
[4:11:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[4:12:00] seconded. Any objection. Item
[4:12:04] is approved. 78, please.
[4:12:04] 78. Oc community resources-
[4:12:10] select and approve respondent
[4:12:10] and alternate respondent from
[4:12:11] solicitation ranking results
[4:12:12] list for tree care maintenance
[4:12:13] services; approve model contract
[4:12:13] 012-2964102-eb with selected
[4:12:14] respondent, 9/1/26-8/31/29
[4:12:15] ($10,080,000); renewable for one
[4:12:16] additional two-year term;
[4:12:17] authorize county procurement
[4:12:18] officer or deputized deputy to
[4:12:18] negotiate and execute contract
[4:12:19] under certain conditions; and
[4:12:20] make california environmental
[4:12:21] quality act (Ceqa) Findings
[4:12:24] under ceqa guidelines section 15304
[4:12:26] we have no requests to speak on
[4:12:28] agenda item 78..
[4:12:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
[4:12:34] all-district item
[4:12:36] >>janet nguyen: I'll move it,
[4:12:36] MR. CHAIRMAN, and the selection
[4:12:40] would be with west coast
[4:12:43] arborist, inc.. And then
[4:12:44] mariposa tree management, inc.
[4:12:45] For a second
[4:12:47] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[4:12:49] Been moved and seconded. Any
[4:12:57] objection to those -- sorry.
[4:13:00] You have a recusal. Okay. So
[4:13:01] noted, and with that, the item
[4:13:05] is approved. Item 79, please.
[4:13:05] >>clerk, robin stieler: 79.
[4:13:06] Under oc public works-award
[4:13:07] contract ma-080-26011040 to R.J.
[4:13:08] Noble company for las flores
[4:13:08] gateway improvements and
[4:13:09] pavement rehabilitation project,
[4:13:10] 160 working day term
[4:13:11] ($15,783,498); authorize
[4:13:12] director or designee to execute
[4:13:12] contract; and make california
[4:13:13] environmental quality act (Ceqa)
[4:13:14] Exemption findings under ceqa
[4:13:15] guidelines sections 15301
[4:13:19] and 15302
[4:13:22] we have no requests to speak on
[4:13:23] agenda item 79..
[4:13:24] >>chair, doug chaffee: I believe
[4:13:26] we have a recusal again from
[4:13:28] supervisor wagner. This is a
[4:13:29] district 5 item.
[4:13:30] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
[4:13:34] move the item..
[4:13:35] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there
[4:13:36] any selection here.
[4:13:38] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: no,
[4:13:40] just for rj noble.
[4:13:40] >>chair, doug chaffee: I will
[4:13:42] second it. Any objection,
[4:13:43] noting the abstention? Thank
[4:13:46] you. Item 80, please.
[4:13:47] >>clerk, robin stieler: 80.
[4:13:47] Under oc public works-approve
[4:13:48] oc civic center parking
[4:13:49] maintenance fund 828 budget for
[4:13:49] civic center area operating
[4:13:50] costs, taxes/fees and projects,
[4:13:51] fy 2026-27 ($7,886,000);
[4:13:53] authorize auditor-
[4:13:54] controller to make related
[4:13:55] payments; and make california
[4:13:57] environmental quality act (Ceqa)
[4:13:59] Exemption findings under ceqa
[4:14:02] guidelines section 15301
[4:14:04] we have no requests to speak on
[4:14:06] agenda item 80.
[4:14:07] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[4:14:12] district 2 item. It's been
[4:14:14] moved and seconded. Supervisor
[4:14:14] foley, any comments.
[4:14:15] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.
[4:14:17] I have a question. It looks
[4:14:21] like in the staffer report that
[4:14:24] this is the civic center parking
[4:14:28] maintenance, and there is a
[4:14:32] six-month preserve -- reserves?
[4:14:34] Is there a reason why we have to
[4:14:41] have six months of reserves?
[4:14:47] I'm not sure who to ask.
[4:14:47] MR. Onuma or --
[4:14:48] >>michelle aguirre: zack is
[4:14:51] coming up. I'm assuming it's
[4:14:53] related to a specific project
[4:14:55] but zack can clarify
[4:14:58] >>speaker: yes, I'm the
[4:14:59] administrative deputy director
[4:15:00] for orange county public works.
[4:15:01] We discussed with the city of
[4:15:03] santa ana given -- during covid,
[4:15:05] we head several capital projects
[4:15:07] that were being off-set at the
[4:15:09] same time that our revenue was
[4:15:10] decreasing due to lack of
[4:15:11] parking. So during that time,
[4:15:13] we decreased the reserves down
[4:15:14] to three months. We discussed
[4:15:17] during this operational cycle,
[4:15:18] having excess money, bringing it
[4:15:19] back up to a six-month level.
[4:15:20] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
[4:15:22] Thank you.
[4:15:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's been
[4:15:24] moved and seconded. Any
[4:15:26] objection? Seeing none, tempt
[4:15:28] is approved. 81, please.
[4:15:29] >>clerk, robin stieler: 81.
[4:15:30] Under oc public works-award
[4:15:30] contract ma-080-26011250 to abm
[4:15:31] building solutions, llc for
[4:15:32] construction manager at-risk
[4:15:32] construction phase services,
[4:15:33] health care agency-madero new
[4:15:34] heating, ventilation, and air
[4:15:35] conditioning plant project,
[4:15:35] 250-day term ($1,885,000);
[4:15:37] authorize director or designee
[4:15:38] to execute contract; and make
[4:15:47] related budget adjustments
[4:15:49] this require as 4/5ths vote of
[4:15:51] the members present. We have no
[4:15:53] requests to speak on agenda item
[4:15:53] 81.
[4:15:55] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[4:15:56] district 3 item.
[4:15:57] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[4:15:58] second.
[4:15:58] >>chair, doug chaffee: motion
[4:16:00] carries unanimously, which
[4:16:02] satisfies that requirement.
[4:16:04] Item 82, please.
[4:16:05] >>clerk, robin stieler: 82.
[4:16:05] Under oc public works-approve
[4:16:06] contracts with qualified
[4:16:07] contractors for
[4:16:08] architect-engineer task
[4:16:09] order roadway and bikeway
[4:16:10] services, three-year terms
[4:16:10] ($2,700,000 each; aggregate
[4:16:11] total $16,200,000); and
[4:16:12] authorize director or designee
[4:16:14] to execute contracts
[4:16:17] we have no requests to speak on
[4:16:18] agenda item 82.
[4:16:19] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
[4:16:21] all-district item
[4:16:23] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[4:16:23] the item.
[4:16:24] >>chair, doug chaffee: are there
[4:16:25] vendors here.
[4:16:26] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: there
[4:16:28] are six vendors that are
[4:16:29] indicated. We're just moving
[4:16:31] all six, correct?
[4:16:31] .
[4:16:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: I think
[4:16:34] that's right. Is there any -- I
[4:16:37] don't see anybody saying no.
[4:16:40] All right. Th been moved and
[4:16:41] seconded. Seeing no objection,
[4:16:44] item 82 is approved. 83,
[4:16:44] please.
[4:16:45] >>clerk, robin stieler: 83.
[4:16:46] Under oc public works-approve
[4:16:46] subordinate contract
[4:16:47] ma-080-25011203 with johnson
[4:16:48] controls fire protection lp for
[4:16:49] facility security & fire
[4:16:49] sprinkler systems, equipment and
[4:16:50] related services, 7/1/26
[4:16:51] -3/31/27 ($1,335,277);
[4:16:51] authorize county procurement
[4:16:52] officer or deputized designee to
[4:16:53] execute contract; and make
[4:16:54] california environmental quality
[4:16:55] act (Ceqa) Exemption findings
[4:17:03] under ceqa guidelines section 15301
[4:17:05] we have no requests to speak on
[4:17:06] agenda item 83
[4:17:07] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
[4:17:08] all-district item.
[4:17:09] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[4:17:10] the item.
[4:17:12] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[4:17:13] seconded. Any objection in
[4:17:15] seeing none, item is approved.
[4:17:15] 84, please.
[4:17:16] >>clerk, robin stieler: 84.
[4:17:17] Under oc public works-acting
[4:17:17] as orange county flood control
[4:17:18] district-approve amendment 1
[4:17:18] to cooperative agreement
[4:17:19] ma-080-25011369 with southern
[4:17:20] california regional rail
[4:17:21] authority for san juan creek
[4:17:22] bridge replacement project
[4:17:24] ($800,000; cumulative total $2,800,000)
[4:17:26] we have no requests to speak on
[4:17:27] agenda item 84.
[4:17:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[4:17:30] district 5 item.
[4:17:31] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[4:17:31] the item.
[4:17:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: I will
[4:17:34] second the item. Any objection?
[4:17:37] Motion carries. All right, 85,
[4:17:37] please.
[4:17:38] >>clerk, robin stieler: 85.
[4:17:39] Under oc public works-acting
[4:17:40] as board of supervisors and
[4:17:40] orange county flood control
[4:17:41] district-approve amendment 1
[4:17:43] to renew aggregate contracts
[4:17:43] ma-080-23010821 with airdev,
[4:17:45] inc. And efficient bpm llc for
[4:17:46] maintenance management
[4:17:47] integration services, 8/16/26-
[4:17:48] 8/15/28 ($700,000; cumulative
[4:17:48] aggregate total $1,750,000); and
[4:17:49] authorize county procurement
[4:17:50] officer or deputized designee to
[4:17:53] execute amendments
[4:17:56] we have no requests to speak on
[4:17:57] agenda item 85..
[4:17:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is
[4:18:00] an all-district item.
[4:18:00] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[4:18:03] the item..
[4:18:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[4:18:05] seconded. Any objection?
[4:18:06] Seeing none, item is approved.
[4:18:10] We go on to 86, please.
[4:18:10] >>clerk, robin stieler: 86.
[4:18:11] Under oc waste & recycling-
[4:18:12] approve amendment 3 to contract
[4:18:12] ma-299-25010112 with geosyntec
[4:18:13] consultants, inc. For landfill
[4:18:14] regulatory support services
[4:18:15] ($122,000; cumulative total
[4:18:15] $2,372,000); and authorize
[4:18:16] county procurement officer or
[4:18:17] deputized designee to make minor
[4:18:17] changes under certain conditions
[4:18:21] and execute amendment
[4:18:23] and we have no requests to speak
[4:18:25] on agenda item 86..
[4:18:26] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
[4:18:31] all-district item. I will
[4:18:35] second it. Any objection? The
[4:18:38] motion carries. Item 87,
[4:18:39] please.
[4:18:39] >>clerk, robin stieler: 87.
[4:18:40] Under oc waste & recycling-
[4:18:41] approve amendment 3 to contract
[4:18:42] ma-299-23011446 with promax
[4:18:42] personnel, llc for temporary
[4:18:43] help for landfill laborer,
[4:18:44] 7/18/26-7/17/28 ($2,400,000,
[4:18:44] cumulative total $4,565,000);
[4:18:45] approve amendment 4 to renew
[4:18:46] contract ma-299-23011436 with
[4:18:46] promax personnel, llc for
[4:18:47] temporary help for fee station
[4:18:48] attendant, 9/25/26-9/24/28
[4:18:49] ($340,000; cumulative total
[4:18:50] $940,000); and authorize county
[4:18:51] procurement officer or deputized
[4:18:52] designee to make minor changes
[4:18:53] under certain conditions and
[4:18:58] execute amendments
[4:19:01] and we have no requests to speak
[4:19:03] on agenda item 87..
[4:19:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[4:19:05] district 3, 4, and 5 item. I
[4:19:07] will move for approval. Moved
[4:19:08] and seconded. Any objection?
[4:19:11] Item is approved. 88, please.
[4:19:12] >>clerk, robin stieler: 88.
[4:19:12] Under oc waste & recycling-
[4:19:13] approve contract ma-299-26010687
[4:19:14] with helix environmental
[4:19:14] planning, inc. For landscape
[4:19:15] maintenance for native plant
[4:19:16] habitat management, south region
[4:19:16] landfills, 9/1/26-8/31/29
[4:19:17] ($6,757,500); renewable for one
[4:19:18] additional two-year term; and
[4:19:19] authorize county procurement
[4:19:20] officer or deputized designee to
[4:19:20] make minor changes under
[4:19:27] certain conditions and execute contract
[4:19:29] we have no requests to speak on
[4:19:31] agenda item 88..
[4:19:32] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[4:19:35] district 3 and 5 item..
[4:19:36] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[4:19:36] second.
[4:19:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: any
[4:19:38] objection.
[4:19:39] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'd
[4:19:40] like to make a comment.
[4:19:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: go
[4:19:41] ahead.
[4:19:42] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: given
[4:19:44] the concerns expressed about use
[4:19:45] of herbicides, I want to mention
[4:19:47] for the public there's multiple
[4:19:48] mentions throughout the contract
[4:19:51] that no herbicides will be used
[4:19:55] in public areas including five
[4:19:58] foot buffer around trails and
[4:20:01] only applied to specific
[4:20:03] invasive non-native species at
[4:20:06] this location. Thank you..
[4:20:07] >>chair, doug chaffee: did we
[4:20:08] get a second on this
[4:20:09] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes.
[4:20:11] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[4:20:13] seconded. Any objection? 88 is
[4:20:16] approved. 89, please.
[4:20:17] >>clerk, robin stieler: 89.
[4:20:17] Under oc waste & recycling-
[4:20:18] approve amendment 2 to contracts
[4:20:19] ma-299-22011312 with tetra tech
[4:20:20] bas, inc. ($3,606,255;
[4:20:20] cumulative total $11,759,876)
[4:20:21] And ma-299-22011322 with swt
[4:20:22] engineering, inc. ($99,957;
[4:20:23] cumulative total $360,049),
[4:20:24] terms ending 7/30/27; and
[4:20:25] approve change order 6 to
[4:20:26] contract ma-299-24010124 with
[4:20:27] sukut construction, llc,
[4:20:28] ($9,819,459; cumulative
[4:20:29] total $98,741,594), 1,185-day
[4:20:30] term, for prima zone 4 phase a
[4:20:31] mass excavation and liner
[4:20:32] project; and authorize director
[4:20:33] or designee, under delegated
[4:20:34] authority from oc public works,
[4:20:35] to execute amendments and
[4:20:40] contract change order
[4:20:42] we have no requests to speak on
[4:20:43] agenda item 89..
[4:20:44] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[4:20:49] district 5 item. Go ahead and
[4:20:50] make your comments.
[4:20:51] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[4:20:53] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. This item is
[4:20:56] brought to us because of a need
[4:20:58] for an additional funding for
[4:21:02] the contract due to some
[4:21:03] geological concerns and the
[4:21:05] approval of this is as it
[4:21:09] relates to making sure that we
[4:21:13] are not having the ground water
[4:21:16] impacted. Unforeseen geological
[4:21:17] conditions required additional
[4:21:18] work and additional time for
[4:21:22] this project..
[4:21:22] >>chair, doug chaffee: did I get
[4:21:23] a second
[4:21:24] >>clerk, robin stieler: no. We
[4:21:27] still need a second..
[4:21:28] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[4:21:29] seconded. Any objection? Item
[4:21:32] 89 is approved. We go on to 90
[4:21:32] please.
[4:21:33] >>clerk, robin stieler: 90.
[4:21:34] Under probation-approve
[4:21:34] memorandum of understanding
[4:21:35] (Mou) Between county of orange,
[4:21:36] orange county probation
[4:21:36] department, and superior court
[4:21:37] of california, county of orange
[4:21:38] for sb 129 pretrial release
[4:21:38] program, 7/1/26-6/30/27; and
[4:21:39] authorize county executive
[4:21:40] officer and chief probation
[4:21:51] officer or designee to execute mou
[4:21:53] and we have no requests to speak
[4:21:54] on agenda item 90.
[4:21:56] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
[4:21:58] all-district item. Moved and
[4:22:00] seconded. Any objection? Item
[4:22:02] 90 is approved. 91, please.
[4:22:02] >>clerk, robin stieler: 91.
[4:22:04] Under registrar of voters-
[4:22:04] approve contract ma-031-26011329
[4:22:06] with dmt solutions global
[4:22:07] corporation dba bluecrest for
[4:22:07] hardware maintenance on document
[4:22:08] messaging technologies
[4:22:09] sorters, inserters and server
[4:22:11] and software licensing and
[4:22:14] maintenance, 8/12/26-8/11/31
[4:22:15] ($2,532,741); and authorize
[4:22:16] county procurement officer or
[4:22:17] deputized designee to exercise
[4:22:18] cost contingency increase not to
[4:22:20] exceed 10% under certain
[4:22:26] conditions and execute contract.
[4:22:27] And MR. Chair, we received three
[4:22:34] requests to speak on agenda item
[4:22:38] 91. Lisa h, kate, and
[4:22:55] california precinct activators.
[4:22:57] >>speaker: hi, supervisors.
[4:23:00] Just california election's code
[4:23:06] 18568 neighbors a crime -- it's
[4:23:08] only 1 minute.
[4:23:10] >>chair, doug chaffee: no
[4:23:10] interruptions, please
[4:23:12] >>speaker: please, could I have
[4:23:14] my time? California elections
[4:23:18] code 18568 neighbors a crime to
[4:23:21] aid in changing or destroying an
[4:23:22] official ballot, to wrongfully
[4:23:26] remove ballots or to willfully
[4:23:28] detrain, mutilate or destroy
[4:23:30] ballots or election returns,
[4:23:31] violations can be charged as
[4:23:33] felonies. We're replacing
[4:23:35] machines that were slicing the
[4:23:36] envelopes and slicing the
[4:23:39] ballots in half at one time. We
[4:23:42] as citizen observers asked the
[4:23:45] registrar of voters if we could
[4:23:46] witness this in the room. This
[4:23:48] is not an observable place. We
[4:23:50] weren't allowed to look at this.
[4:23:52] I just request that since he's
[4:23:55] your appointee, that we make a
[4:23:57] change to the rotation then, but
[4:23:58] we need to fix the problem.
[4:23:59] Thank you
[4:24:00] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[4:24:05] you. Next speaker, please.
[4:24:07] >>speaker: good morning, board.
[4:24:10] So one-day voting, paper
[4:24:15] ballots, no mail-in ballots. So
[4:24:17] this is kind of a joke. Over 91
[4:24:20] ways for you to steal more
[4:24:22] money, all of you are despicable
[4:24:25] but nothing will change your
[4:24:28] behavior. The $2.5 million is
[4:24:30] because you had ballots ripped
[4:24:32] by machines designed to open
[4:24:34] them. If the general population
[4:24:38] would stop voting by mail, all
[4:24:42] of this would not be needed. As
[4:24:45] long as every politician,
[4:24:47] political party, government
[4:24:50] stooge -- as you are --
[4:24:53] continues to support mail-in
[4:24:55] ballots, we will -- this will
[4:24:59] continue, and we will waste more
[4:25:02] taxpayer money. One-day voting,
[4:25:07] paper ballots, id. Thank you
[4:25:08] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[4:25:09] you, ma'am. MAY we have the
[4:25:14] next special please.
[4:25:16] >>speaker: bob page is currently
[4:25:17] under investigations by the
[4:25:18] department of justice. The
[4:25:22] united states versus page for
[4:25:26] not complying with -- and
[4:25:31] continuing on with unredacted
[4:25:34] data. Why are we even
[4:25:37] entertaining for the taxpayers
[4:25:38] of orange county to spend
[4:25:40] another $2.5 million when we
[4:25:43] have a -- we currently have the
[4:25:45] registrar voter bob page under
[4:25:46] federal investigation by the
[4:25:47] department of justice? You can
[4:25:50] guys please answer that? Why we
[4:25:52] would be entertaining anything
[4:25:54] from the registrar of voters bob
[4:25:56] page. Can any of you answer
[4:25:59] that? Why do we even have this
[4:26:02] as an agenda item? Voter fraud
[4:26:04] is rampant. One-day voting.
[4:26:07] One-day counting. No mail-in
[4:26:10] ballots. This is destroying our
[4:26:12] country. And this is just on
[4:26:14] record here for the voters of
[4:26:16] orange county. Thank you very
[4:26:16] much.
[4:26:18] >>clerk, robin stieler: no
[4:26:20] further speakers, MR. Chair.
[4:26:20] >>chair, doug chaffee: again
[4:26:22] this is an all-district item. I
[4:26:23] think we had a motion, but I
[4:26:24] didn't hear a second
[4:26:26] >>vincente sarmiento: second.
[4:26:27] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[4:26:29] seconded. Any objection? Item
[4:26:31] 91 is approved. 92 please.
[4:26:31] >>clerk, robin stieler: 92.
[4:26:32] Under social services agency-
[4:26:33] approve amendment 1 to renew
[4:26:34] master contract ma-063-23010975
[4:26:35] and individual contract with
[4:26:37] hopskipdrive, inc. For
[4:26:37] children'
[4:26:38] s school of origin and
[4:26:39] foster youth transportation
[4:26:41] services, 7/1/26-6/30/28
[4:26:42] ($950,000; aggregate cumulative
[4:26:43] total $2,975,000); and
[4:26:45] authorize county procurement
[4:26:46] officer or deputized designee to
[4:26:46] execute amendments and
[4:26:47] accept claims-made sexual
[4:26:48] misconduct liability insurance
[4:26:51] under certain conditions
[4:26:53] we have no requests to speak on
[4:26:56] agenda item 92.
[4:26:58] >>vincente sarmiento: move the
[4:26:58] item.
[4:26:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there
[4:27:01] a second? Supervisor foley, you
[4:27:02] have a comment.
[4:27:03] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: yes.
[4:27:05] So I am very concerned about
[4:27:07] this, and I know we already have
[4:27:08] this contract, but I want to
[4:27:12] make sure that as procurement
[4:27:14] looks at the new solicitation,
[4:27:17] maybe we need to get with c zack
[4:27:20] and sort of survey what other
[4:27:24] counties are paying for these
[4:27:28] services because a base rate of
[4:27:35] $43 for a ride from where a
[4:27:38] child is living, whether it's in
[4:27:39] orangewood or a family home, and
[4:27:49] to school, plus $2.95 per mile,
[4:27:50] that seems extraordinary to me.
[4:27:52] And it appears that the average
[4:27:58] ride is about 10 miles so we
[4:28:02] paid about $444,000 last year
[4:28:05] for approximately 440 rides.
[4:28:07] And so it just seems
[4:28:09] extraordinary to be paying this
[4:28:10] much. And I feel like it's
[4:28:13] because no one ever asks or
[4:28:15] pushes back, and they have just
[4:28:16] a monopoly on this type of
[4:28:19] service. So I hope that we will
[4:28:21] try to negotiate a better deal
[4:28:23] for the county. Of course, we
[4:28:24] want children to be transported
[4:28:27] safely with all of the, you
[4:28:29] know, lifescan and background
[4:28:31] checks and the appropriate
[4:28:34] insurance. But I can't seem to
[4:28:36] get a itemization of what those
[4:28:38] costs are. So as we move into
[4:28:40] the next solicitation, I hope we
[4:28:42] can be a little bit more
[4:28:44] aggressive in negotiating down
[4:28:45] these fees..
[4:28:47] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[4:28:49] you. Did we get a motion?
[4:28:51] >>clerk, robin stieler: a motion
[4:28:53] by supervisor sarmiento, but I
[4:28:54] didn't hear a second
[4:28:56] >>chair, doug chaffee: we have a
[4:28:59] motion, any objection? Item is
[4:28:59] approved
[4:29:00] >>clerk, robin stieler:
[4:29:01] MR. Chair, who seconded the
[4:29:02] motion.
[4:29:02] >>chair, doug chaffee: me
[4:29:03] >>clerk, robin stieler: thank
[4:29:05] you very much
[4:29:05] >>chair, doug chaffee: that's
[4:29:09] correct please.
[4:29:10] >>clerk, robin stieler: 93.
[4:29:11] Under social services agency-
[4:29:11] approve contract
[4:29:12] ma-063-260101048 with the
[4:29:12] regents of the
[4:29:13] university of california, on
[4:29:14] behalf of uci university
[4:29:15] physicians & surgeons, uci
[4:29:15] department of psychiatry for
[4:29:16] sexual abuse counseling
[4:29:17] services, 7/1/26-6/30/29
[4:29:17] ($4,725,000); renewable for one
[4:29:18] additional two-year term; and
[4:29:19] authorize county procurement
[4:29:20] officer or deputized designee to
[4:29:21] exercise cost contingency
[4:29:21] increase not to exceed 10% under
[4:29:22] certain conditions and execute
[4:29:25] contract
[4:29:27] and we have no requests to speak
[4:29:28] on agenda item 93.
[4:29:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[4:29:32] district 2 item moved and
[4:29:33] seconded. Any objection? Item
[4:29:36] is approved. 94, please.
[4:29:36] >>clerk, robin stieler: 94.
[4:29:37] Under social services agency-
[4:29:38] approve amendment 2 to renew
[4:29:38] master agreement cps0221-00 for
[4:29:39] drug testing services
[4:29:40] ($1,600,000; aggregate total
[4:29:43] $9,600,000); approve amendment 5
[4:29:44] to agreements csp00221-01 with
[4:29:46] associates in counseling and
[4:29:46] mediation, cps0221-02 with e&j
[4:29:47] medical services, cps0221-03
[4:29:49] with scram of california, inc.,
[4:29:50] amendment 2 to agreement
[4:29:51] cps0221-05 with dms services,
[4:29:52] inc. And amendment 1 to contract
[4:29:54] ma-063-25011169 with redwood
[4:29:55] toxicology laboratory, inc. For
[4:29:56] drug testing services, 7/1/26-
[4:29:58] 6/30/27; and authorize county
[4:29:59] procurement officer or deputized
[4:30:03] designee to execute amendments
[4:30:05] and we have no requests to speak
[4:30:08] on agenda item 94..
[4:30:09] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there
[4:30:10] any motion.
[4:30:11] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: move
[4:30:11] the item
[4:30:13] >>vincente sarmiento: second.
[4:30:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[4:30:15] Moved and seconded. Any
[4:30:15] objection? Item is approved.
[4:30:20] Now we go to our supplements.
[4:30:21] I'm going to ask the clerk to
[4:30:25] start with supplements 94a, l,
[4:30:40] m, and y.
[4:30:41] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94a.
[4:30:42] Under chair chaffee-approve
[4:30:43] allocation of $23,350 from
[4:30:44] fourth district discretionary
[4:30:45] funds to homeless intervention
[4:30:45] services of orange county for
[4:30:46] roof replacement project; make
[4:30:47] related findings under
[4:30:48] government code section 26227;
[4:30:49] authorize county executive
[4:30:50] officer or designee to negotiate
[4:30:51] and enter into agreement as
[4:30:52] necessary; and authorize
[4:30:53] auditor-controller or designee
[4:31:09] to make related payments
[4:31:10] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94l.
[4:31:12] Under chair chaffee-approve
[4:31:13] allocation of $250,000 from
[4:31:14] fourth district discretionary
[4:31:15] funds to support city of
[4:31:15] stanton's norm ross sports
[4:31:16] complex for youth sports access
[4:31:17] and community health
[4:31:18] improvement; make related
[4:31:19] findings under government code
[4:31:20] section 26227; authorize
[4:31:21] county executive officer or
[4:31:22] designee to negotiate and enter
[4:31:23] into agreement as necessary; and
[4:31:24] authorize auditor-controller or
[4:31:37] designee to make related payments
[4:31:38] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94m.
[4:31:40] Under chair chaffee-approve
[4:31:41] sponsorship of various nonprofit
[4:31:42] entities from fourth district
[4:31:43] events funds; approve addition
[4:31:44] or revision of events to fy
[4:31:45] 2025-26 county events calendar;
[4:31:46] make related findings under
[4:31:47] government code section 26227;
[4:31:48] and authorize auditor-controller
[4:32:07] to make related payments
[4:32:07] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94y.
[4:32:08] Under chair chaffee-approve
[4:32:09] allocation of $5,000 from fourth
[4:32:09] district discretionary funds to
[4:32:10] brea chamber of commerce for
[4:32:11] women rising leadership academy;
[4:32:12] make related findings under
[4:32:13] government code section 26227;
[4:32:13] authorize county executive
[4:32:14] officer or designee to negotiate
[4:32:15] and enter into agreement as
[4:32:16] necessary; and authorize
[4:32:17] auditor-controller or designee
[4:32:28] to make related payments
[4:32:29] let me just double-check. I
[4:32:32] don't think I have any speakers
[4:32:33] requests. We have no requests
[4:32:36] to speak on those items,
[4:32:36] MR. Chair
[4:32:37] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[4:32:39] you. MADAM Clerk, I will move
[4:32:39] all of those items.
[4:32:40] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[4:32:40] second.
[4:32:43] >>chair, doug chaffee: second.
[4:32:45] Any objection? Those items are
[4:32:46] approved. I'd like to go
[4:32:53] supplements 94b, d, and h.
[4:32:54] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94b.
[4:32:54] Under supervisor wagner-
[4:32:55] approve allocation of $50,000
[4:32:55] from third district
[4:32:56] discretionary funds to
[4:32:57] oc parks for fish stocking and
[4:32:57] fishing derby at irvine lake;
[4:32:58] make related findings under
[4:32:59] government code section 26227;
[4:33:00] authorize county executive
[4:33:00] officer or designee to negotiate
[4:33:01] and enter into agreement as
[4:33:02] necessary; and authorize
[4:33:03] auditor-controller or designee
[4:33:37] to make related payments
[4:33:37] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94d.
[4:33:38] Under supervisor wagner-
[4:33:39] approve allocation of $18,500
[4:33:40] from third district
[4:33:40] discretionary funds to
[4:33:41] crescent elementary pta for
[4:33:42] creation of student wellness
[4:33:43] space at crescent elementary school,
[4:33:44] anaheim hills; make related
[4:33:44] findings under government code
[4:33:45] section 26227; authorize county
[4:33:46] executive officer or designee to
[4:33:46] negotiate and enter into
[4:33:47] agreement as necessary; and
[4:33:48] authorize auditor-controller or
[4:34:00] designee to make related payments
[4:34:00] s94h. Supervisor wagner-
[4:34:01] approve allocation of $300,000
[4:34:02] from third district
[4:34:03] discretionary funds to
[4:34:03] veteran strong usa to expand
[4:34:04] services and support for orange
[4:34:04] county veterans and their
[4:34:05] families; make related findings
[4:34:06] under government code section
[4:34:06] 26227; authorize county
[4:34:07] executive officer or designee to
[4:34:08] negotiate and enter into
[4:34:08] agreement as necessary; and
[4:34:09] authorize auditor-controller or
[4:34:12] designee to make related payments
[4:34:15] and we have no requests to speak
[4:34:16] on those items.
[4:34:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[4:34:19] seconded. Any objection? Those
[4:34:23] items are approved. 94n through
[4:34:36] u as well as supplement 94bb.
[4:34:37] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94n.
[4:34:38] Under vice chair foley-approve
[4:34:39] allocation of $50,000 from fifth
[4:34:40] district discretionary funds to
[4:34:40] city of laguna beach for a
[4:34:41] helopod2; make related findings
[4:34:42] under government code section
[4:34:43] 26227; authorize county
[4:34:43] executive officer or designee to
[4:34:44] negotiate and enter into
[4:34:45] agreement as necessary; and
[4:34:46] authorize auditor-controller or
[4:34:57] designee to make related payments
[4:34:58] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94o.
[4:34:59] Under vice chair foley-approve
[4:35:00] allocation of $5,000 from fifth
[4:35:02] district discretionary funds to
[4:35:03] environmental nature center for
[4:35:04] the traveling naturalist
[4:35:05] program; make related findings
[4:35:06] under government code section
[4:35:07] 26227; authorize county
[4:35:08] executive officer or designee to
[4:35:09] negotiate and enter into
[4:35:11] agreement as necessary; and
[4:35:12] authorize auditor-controller or
[4:35:18] designee to make related payments
[4:35:19] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94p.
[4:35:20] Under vice chair foley-approve
[4:35:21] allocation of $25,000 from fifth
[4:35:22] district discretionary funds to
[4:35:23] pacific chorale for music
[4:35:23] education programming; make
[4:35:24] related findings under
[4:35:25] government code section 26227;
[4:35:26] authorize county executive
[4:35:27] officer or designee to negotiate
[4:35:28] and enter into agreement as
[4:35:30] necessary; and authorize
[4:35:31] auditor-controller or designee
[4:35:40] to make related payments
[4:35:42] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94q.
[4:35:42] Under vice chair foley-approve
[4:35:43] allocation of $10,000 from fifth
[4:35:44] district discretionary funds to
[4:35:45] newport harbor lawn bowling
[4:35:45] association for clubhouse
[4:35:46] facility repairs; make related
[4:35:47] findings under government code
[4:35:48] section 26227; authorize county
[4:35:48] executive officer or designee to
[4:35:49] negotiate and enter into
[4:35:51] agreement as necessary; and
[4:35:57] authorize auditor-controller or
[4:36:04] designee to make related payments
[4:36:06] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94r.
[4:36:08] Under vice chair foley-approve
[4:36:10] allocation of $37,000 from fifth
[4:36:11] district discretionary funds to
[4:36:13] boys & girls club of laguna
[4:36:14] beach for the jazz up the gym
[4:36:15] project; make related findings
[4:36:16] under government code section
[4:36:17] 26227; authorize county
[4:36:18] executive officer or designee to
[4:36:19] negotiate and enter into
[4:36:20] agreement as necessary; and
[4:36:21] authorize auditor-controller or
[4:36:27] designee to make related payments
[4:36:27] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94s.
[4:36:28] Under vice chair foley-approve
[4:36:29] allocation of $8,500 from fifth
[4:36:31] district discretionary funds to
[4:36:32] newport-mesa schools foundation
[4:36:33] for grants to teachers program;
[4:36:34] make related findings under
[4:36:35] government code section 26227;
[4:36:36] authorize county executive
[4:36:37] officer or designee to negotiate
[4:36:38] and enter into agreement as
[4:36:40] necessary; and authorize
[4:36:41] auditor-controller or designee
[4:36:52] to make related payments
[4:36:55] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94t.
[4:36:56] Under vice chair foley-approve
[4:36:57] allocation of $250,000 from
[4:36:59] fifth district discretionary
[4:37:01] funds to planned parenthood
[4:37:06] orange and san bernardino
[4:37:07] counties, inc. For contraceptive
[4:37:09] access; make related findings
[4:37:12] under government code section
[4:37:14] 26227; authorize county
[4:37:15] executive officer or designee to
[4:37:18] negotiate and enter into
[4:37:21] agreement as necessary; and
[4:37:21] authorize auditor-controller or
[4:37:25] designee to make related payments
[4:37:27] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94u.
[4:37:27] Under vice chair foley-approve
[4:37:28] allocation of $6,000 from fifth
[4:37:33] district discretionary funds to
[4:37:33] san clemente elks lodge #2068
[4:37:34] for pendleton pantry 2; make
[4:37:35] related findings under
[4:37:36] government code section 26227;
[4:37:37] authorize county executive
[4:37:39] officer or designee to negotiate
[4:37:40] and enter into agreement as
[4:37:41] necessary; and authorize
[4:37:41] auditor-controller or designee
[4:37:55] to make related payments
[4:37:56] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94bb.
[4:37:56] Under vice chair foley-approve
[4:37:57] sponsorship of various nonprofit
[4:37:58] entities from fifth district
[4:37:58] events funds; approve addition
[4:37:59] or revision of events to fy
[4:38:00] 2026-27 county events calendar;
[4:38:01] make related findings under
[4:38:02] government code section 26227;
[4:38:03] and authorize auditor-controller
[4:38:13] to make related payments
[4:38:14] MR. Chair, we've received two
[4:38:16] requests to speak on s94t.
[4:38:17] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm
[4:38:19] sorry, which?
[4:38:21] >>clerk, robin stieler: 94t.
[4:38:21] Two requests.
[4:38:22] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[4:38:24] Please call those speakers
[4:38:26] >>clerk, robin stieler: kate and
[4:38:31] california precinct activators.
[4:38:34] >>speaker: good morning. I
[4:38:35] think planned parenthood really
[4:38:38] supports women and girls, first
[4:38:42] of all. Planned parenthood
[4:38:45] consistently opposes informed
[4:38:49] consent laws, and they call it
[4:38:52] biased or a barrier to abortion.
[4:38:55] Planned parenthood encourages
[4:38:58] sex selection abortion. Planned
[4:39:00] parenthood lobbies in favor of
[4:39:02] child marriage. Yes, child
[4:39:05] marriage, and at least 48 minors
[4:39:09] have been subjected to marriage
[4:39:16] practices since 2017 to avoid a
[4:39:20] loophole, to avoid pros cushion
[4:39:23] for statutory rape. Under --
[4:39:25] there was an undercover
[4:39:28] investigation in 2011 where the
[4:39:30] planned parenthood employee not
[4:39:34] only failed to report suspected
[4:39:35] sex trafficking.
[4:39:36] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[4:39:38] you, your time is up
[4:39:40] >>speaker: this should be a "no"
[4:39:42] vote for planned parenthood.
[4:39:44] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[4:39:44] you.
[4:39:46] >>clerk, robin stieler:
[4:39:47] MR. Chair, after california
[4:39:49] precinct activators, there is
[4:39:52] one more speaker, ale
[4:39:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: please
[4:39:55] call that speaker
[4:39:57] >>speaker: okay, maximum law, he
[4:40:00] who is in the womb is considered
[4:40:01] born whenever his benefit is
[4:40:05] concerned. Since 1973 we have
[4:40:07] planned parenthood -- since roe
[4:40:11] v. Wade, they have aborted 64
[4:40:13] million babies. Islam is having
[4:40:16] approximately 5 to 10 babies per
[4:40:17] man. What do you think this
[4:40:19] someplace gonna look like in a
[4:40:25] few years? Okay? Now, how nice
[4:40:29] to spend $250,000 of your
[4:40:32] discretionary money,
[4:40:35] MS. Foley -- how nice. How
[4:40:36] nice. How nice. What
[4:40:38] guarantees are you providing the
[4:40:39] citizens -- excuse me, the
[4:40:40] people of orange county that
[4:40:42] this money is not going to be
[4:40:45] used towards more abortions?
[4:40:47] You can give us a guarantee that
[4:40:49] this is only going to be used
[4:40:51] for your supposed pill? Can I
[4:40:53] get that in writing? By what
[4:40:58] authority do you have to -- to
[4:41:00] blatantly, to just callously
[4:41:02] allow $250,000 of taxpayer money
[4:41:03] to be spent.
[4:41:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[4:41:05] for your comment. Okay.
[4:41:07] Supervisor nguyen, had you a
[4:41:08] comment
[4:41:08] >>clerk, robin stieler:
[4:41:12] MR. Chair, one more speaker.
[4:41:16] The speaker is ale. Ale
[4:41:17] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there
[4:41:22] another speaker?
[4:41:24] >>clerk, robin stieler:
[4:41:26] speaker's not present.
[4:41:27] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[4:41:28] supervisor nguyen
[4:41:29] >>janet nguyen: I'd like to
[4:41:32] record an abstention on s94t and
[4:41:35] s94bb. Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN
[4:41:36] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[4:41:37] supervisor wagner?
[4:41:39] >>don wagner: thank you. And
[4:41:43] I'm a no on 94t. Thank you..
[4:41:44] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
[4:41:46] move all of the items that were
[4:41:48] read by the clerk.
[4:41:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: noting
[4:41:50] the no vote and also the
[4:41:54] abstentions. Any objection?
[4:41:55] >>clerk, robin stieler: we need
[4:41:56] a second
[4:41:57] >>vincente sarmiento: I'll
[4:41:57] second it.
[4:41:58] >>chair, doug chaffee: did you
[4:42:01] catch all of the abstentions?
[4:42:01] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes. I
[4:42:03] did. Thank you very much..
[4:42:03] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[4:42:05] right. So the items are
[4:42:07] approved dually noting the no
[4:42:09] vote and the abstentions, as
[4:42:11] well. Now I'd like to move on
[4:42:22] to supplement 94I.
[4:42:23] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94I.
[4:42:23] Approve allocation of $500,000
[4:42:24] from first district
[4:42:25] discretionary funds to
[4:42:25] the city of garden grove for
[4:42:26] residents affected by gkn
[4:42:28] aerospace hazardous materials
[4:42:29] incident; make related findings
[4:42:30] under government code section
[4:42:30] 26227; authorize county
[4:42:31] executive officer or designee to
[4:42:32] negotiate and enter into
[4:42:33] agreement as necessary; and
[4:42:34] authorize auditor-controller or
[4:42:42] designee to make related payments
[4:42:46] we have no requests to speak on
[4:42:46] s94I.
[4:42:47] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[4:42:47] supervisor nguyen
[4:42:47] >>janet nguyen: thank you,
[4:42:49] MR. CHAIRMAN. This is to
[4:42:51] allocate one-time funding to the
[4:42:53] city of garden grove to provide
[4:42:54] relief to the residents that
[4:42:57] were affected in the hazmat
[4:42:59] incident. I want to make sure
[4:43:00] that's publically known that I
[4:43:02] too also want to make sure that
[4:43:06] gkn fully reimburse and makes
[4:43:06] everybody whole. This is
[4:43:08] because that process could take
[4:43:12] a little longer, and not that I
[4:43:15] agree with that. I don't.
[4:43:16] However, the last funding that
[4:43:20] was given to united way, the $3
[4:43:22] million within a week or so, so
[4:43:25] I think this would assist and
[4:43:26] help those individuals who was
[4:43:28] not able to access those fund
[4:43:30] ickes to get the funding
[4:43:33] immediately. This is also,
[4:43:34] though, to -- making sure that
[4:43:37] we as a county, when we receive
[4:43:39] our settlement or our
[4:43:40] reimbursement from gkn, that we
[4:43:43] bring this $500,000 back to make
[4:43:46] it whole so that this is just
[4:43:47] right now to allocate it so that
[4:43:49] it can get out there immediately
[4:43:51] for those residents and help.
[4:43:52] And so I want to make sure that
[4:43:54] this does come back and restore
[4:43:56] to the funding -- to our funding
[4:43:58] so that we can continue to help
[4:43:59] our district. But right now I
[4:44:02] want to make sure that this gets
[4:44:03] out there immediately to help
[4:44:04] those residents. And those who
[4:44:07] received fund forecast united
[4:44:09] way will not receive this
[4:44:10] funding. Garden grove is
[4:44:12] committed to working with united
[4:44:14] way to make -- to
[4:44:14] cross-reference those
[4:44:16] individuals so that we can add
[4:44:17] additional 1,000 more
[4:44:19] individuals to help them instead
[4:44:22] of giving duplicate fundings to
[4:44:22] individuals. Thank you,
[4:44:25] MR. CHAIRMAN. And I'll move the
[4:44:25] item.
[4:44:26] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[4:44:28] you. I heard a second from
[4:44:30] vice-chair. Is there any
[4:44:31] objection? Seeing none, thank
[4:44:34] you for taking a whack at needs
[4:44:38] over there for this tragedy. I
[4:44:39] would like to move on to
[4:44:47] supplement 94aa.
[4:44:50] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94aa.
[4:44:51] Approve sponsorship of various
[4:44:52] nonprofit entities from second
[4:44:53] district events funds; approve
[4:44:55] addition or revision of events
[4:44:56] to fy 2026-27 county events
[4:44:57] calendar; make related findings
[4:44:59] under government code section
[4:45:00] 26227; and authorize
[4:45:02] auditor-controller to make
[4:45:07] related payments
[4:45:14] we have no requests to speak on
[4:45:14] s94aa
[4:45:15] >>vincente sarmiento: move the
[4:45:15] item.
[4:45:16] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going
[4:45:18] to second it
[4:45:20] >>janet nguyen: I'll record an
[4:45:21] abstention, MR. CHAIRMAN.
[4:45:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[4:45:22] right. The item is approved.
[4:45:25] Now we're going to go back up to
[4:45:34] supplement 94c.
[4:45:34] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94c.
[4:45:35] under county executive office-
[4:45:36] appoint cornelius hericus (Kc)
[4:45:36] Roestenberg as interim county
[4:45:37] executive officer; approve
[4:45:38] employment agreement, effective
[4:45:39] 6/26/26 ($430,000 annual salary
[4:45:40] with total compensation $656,968
[4:45:43] including benefits)
[4:45:44] And we have no requests to speak
[4:45:45] on this item.
[4:45:46] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's an
[4:45:47] all-district item. County
[4:45:49] counsel I think has a comment
[4:45:51] >>leon page: as the school board
[4:45:52] aware, before the board takes
[4:45:53] final action on the compensation
[4:45:56] to be paid to a local agency
[4:45:58] executive, an oral report is
[4:45:58] required. In this instance
[4:46:00] before you is a proposed
[4:46:02] employment agreement for casey
[4:46:04] rosenberg to serve as the
[4:46:05] interim county executive
[4:46:08] officer. Compensation is set at
[4:46:08] $430,000 annually
[4:46:10] , and MR. Rosenberg will receive
[4:46:13] the same benefits that are
[4:46:14] generally provided to other
[4:46:16] executive management employees.
[4:46:19] Thank you..
[4:46:21] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[4:46:21] vice-chair foley.
[4:46:22] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[4:46:23] you, MR. CHAIRMAN. I think
[4:46:25] supervisor nguyen, did you move
[4:46:25] the item
[4:46:27] >>janet nguyen: I did.
[4:46:27] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
[4:46:31] second. And I want to welcome
[4:46:33] MR. Rosenberg to the positions
[4:46:36] of ceo. Be careful what you ask
[4:46:39] for. But MR. Rosenberg brings
[4:46:41] two decades of county experience
[4:46:43] and knowledge of county
[4:46:47] operations. We know that's been
[4:46:48] shadowing our ceo for a few
[4:46:52] weeks and getting a lot of the
[4:46:53] briefings under his belt. So we
[4:46:55] look forward to working with
[4:46:59] you. The summer is going to be
[4:47:01] a lot of work to get prepared
[4:47:02] for the fall. So thank you so
[4:47:05] much for being willing to serve.
[4:47:05] .
[4:47:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[4:47:08] right. Thank you. I'll join
[4:47:10] saying congratulations and thank
[4:47:12] you for stepping pickup is there
[4:47:15] any objection? Seeing none, and
[4:47:20] the contract is approved. Now
[4:47:25] we go to supplement 94e.
[4:47:26] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94e.
[4:47:27] Under vice chair foley-direct
[4:47:27] oc public works staff to develop
[4:47:28] public notice requirements for
[4:47:32] proposed herbicide or pesticide application
[4:47:34] and MR. Chair, we've received
[4:47:36] two requests to speak on s94e
[4:47:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: call the
[4:47:38] speakers please.
[4:47:40] >>clerk, robin stieler: bethany
[4:47:46] helms and axle eaton.
[4:47:50] >>speaker: my name is bethany
[4:47:51] with creek team and I'm speaking
[4:47:53] today about transparency. The
[4:47:54] public has a right to know when
[4:47:55] herbicides are being applied in
[4:47:56] their communities. Residents
[4:47:59] use creek trails every day.
[4:48:00] Families walk them, children
[4:48:02] play near them, dog owners,
[4:48:03] cyclists, bird watchers and
[4:48:05] volunteers spend countless hours
[4:48:07] in these public spaces. We are
[4:48:08] heard that people are not
[4:48:09] supposed to be in the creeks and
[4:48:11] they're not affected, yet I
[4:48:12] personally documented your
[4:48:13] contractor spraying vegetation
[4:48:16] less than 10 feet from a public
[4:48:17] trail on a windy day. This
[4:48:19] absolutely affects residents.
[4:48:20] This isn't just about decency.
[4:48:22] This is about liability. For
[4:48:24] years, residents have had no
[4:48:26] idea when or where herbicides
[4:48:28] were being applied. Had they
[4:48:29] known, they MAY have chosen to
[4:48:32] avoid those areas. Transparency
[4:48:33] should not be optional. If
[4:48:35] herbicides are being sprayed in
[4:48:35] public space, there should be
[4:48:37] clear notification through
[4:48:40] signage and online disclosures.
[4:48:41] It is about the public's trite
[4:48:43] make informed decisions. I urge
[4:48:45] the forward about vote yes on
[4:48:46] public notification. This is
[4:48:47] your opportunity to show the
[4:48:48] public how much you actually
[4:48:50] value them. Thank you..
[4:48:51] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[4:48:52] you. MAY we have the next
[4:48:57] speaker, please.
[4:48:59] >>speaker: good afternoon,
[4:49:02] supervisors. My name is axle
[4:49:05] eaton. On behalf of -- in
[4:49:07] regard to item 94e, this issue
[4:49:09] is no longer partisan. It's
[4:49:11] about public trust and basic
[4:49:12] transparency. Across california
[4:49:13] neighboring counties are
[4:49:15] investing billions of dollars to
[4:49:16] reconnect people with the rivers
[4:49:19] and public spaces. Los angeles
[4:49:21] has committed over $1 billion to
[4:49:23] restore the L.A. River with
[4:49:25] strong emphasis on reducing
[4:49:27] pesticide use, improving habitat
[4:49:29] and creating places where
[4:49:31] families can gather with 20
[4:49:32] seconds left, let's see what I
[4:49:35] can show. Transparency is a
[4:49:36] critical part of that future for
[4:49:38] us and for you to leave a legacy
[4:49:40] in orange county where people
[4:49:43] can engage with their waterways.
[4:49:45] In 2025, a scientific paper
[4:49:48] that monsanto relied on for
[4:49:53] years to safeguard the guy foss
[4:49:55] say the and other pesticides
[4:49:57] were not toxic has been
[4:50:00] retracted. In 2026 in D.C. A
[4:50:02] bill was passed to prevent
[4:50:05] liability from giving -- from
[4:50:08] being given to monsanto on
[4:50:09] pesticides that they create.
[4:50:12] This is no longer partisan.
[4:50:14] This is bipartisan. I
[4:50:18] respectfully ask for your report
[4:50:20] on -- for your support on item
[4:50:20] 95.
[4:50:20] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[4:50:21] right. Thank you.
[4:50:21] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
[4:50:23] brought this item back because
[4:50:26] residents continue to ask for
[4:50:27] basic transparency regarding
[4:50:29] herbicides or pest islands in
[4:50:31] public spaces. I have addressed
[4:50:34] the -- pesticides in public
[4:50:36] spaces. I take these concerns
[4:50:38] very seriously, of course. So
[4:50:41] this item is focused on public
[4:50:44] notice, not employee deployment
[4:50:46] details. It directs staff to
[4:50:48] develop a responsible noticing
[4:50:50] policy so residents can know the
[4:50:52] product being used, the purpose,
[4:50:53] the general area, the date range
[4:50:54] and who to contact for
[4:50:57] questions. We can provide that
[4:50:58] information without disclosing
[4:51:00] individual employee schedules or
[4:51:02] creating unnecessary risks for
[4:51:05] field staff. A public notice a
[4:51:06] reasonable request and a
[4:51:07] reasonable step that the county
[4:51:09] can take, especially as we move
[4:51:11] forward with the pilot projects
[4:51:14] at san juan and trabuco creek
[4:51:17] and review our integrated pest
[4:51:18] management plan. I think we can
[4:51:20] protect our close and still
[4:51:22] instill transparency with the
[4:51:24] public. With that, I move the
[4:51:24] item.
[4:51:25] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[4:51:26] supervisor sarmiento?
[4:51:27] >>vincente sarmiento: yes.
[4:51:29] Thank you, MR. Chair. You know,
[4:51:31] I'm supportive of the item. I
[4:51:32] just want to make sure, you
[4:51:34] know, we're clear there aren't
[4:51:36] any unintended consequences of
[4:51:39] this. The fact that, you know,
[4:51:41] it will have, you know, no
[4:51:44] impact that we're not looking
[4:51:46] at. So, you know, the whole
[4:51:50] idea of a feasible or
[4:51:51] reasonable, you know, definition
[4:51:54] of that, I'm not sure if
[4:51:56] MR. Onuma maybe can come forward
[4:51:59] and just walk us through some of
[4:52:05] this.. And MR. Onuma, as
[4:52:06] you're walking down, some of my
[4:52:08] concerns are just with, you
[4:52:11] know, delays, making sure that
[4:52:15] there's going to be consistent
[4:52:16] application, notices won't be
[4:52:18] selective or random. I'm just
[4:52:19] trying to see if there's
[4:52:22] anything that you see here. Do
[4:52:24] you think you covered everything
[4:52:29] that you MAY see on the horizon?
[4:52:30] >>speaker: CHAIRMAN Chaffee,
[4:52:33] members of the board, kevin
[4:52:35] onuma, orange county public
[4:52:37] works. If the policy is to
[4:52:39] develop this notice, if that's
[4:52:41] the policy decision, we're going
[4:52:42] to work up the details. I don't
[4:52:44] know what those details will
[4:52:46] look like. But, you know, this
[4:52:47] goes through, you know, all of
[4:52:52] the requirements. The location,
[4:52:54] product being used, so on.
[4:52:55] >>vincente sarmiento: is there
[4:52:57] anything that you see that isn't
[4:52:59] included in there that should be
[4:53:00] or maybe something that's
[4:53:02] included in there that should be
[4:53:07] removed or stricken?
[4:53:08] >>speaker: I don't think there's
[4:53:09] anything missing or anything
[4:53:11] else that needs to be added. As
[4:53:13] a part of this, a consideration
[4:53:14] that will make -- that we'll
[4:53:16] make is -- we'll have is whether
[4:53:19] or not we need look at measures
[4:53:23] for site security and/or staff
[4:53:25] safety. In case there's
[4:53:27] protests or anything like that.
[4:53:28] >>vincente sarmiento: so I guess
[4:53:30] what you're saying is that --
[4:53:32] could this notice trigger some
[4:53:35] dangerous condition for some of
[4:53:38] the staff or employees?
[4:53:38] >>speaker: it's possible but we
[4:53:40] don't know.
[4:53:41] >>vincente sarmiento: okay.
[4:53:45] That's true of anything, right,
[4:53:47] that we provide notice for. So
[4:53:48] what's your suggestion? How
[4:53:50] would you proceed, I guess, once
[4:53:52] this is expwhremented, assuming
[4:53:55] it does
[4:53:57] >>speaker: there was an
[4:53:58] application I think that was
[4:53:59] being done in APRIL and some
[4:54:01] members of the public showed up.
[4:54:03] My understanding is it went
[4:54:04] into an area that was close to
[4:54:07] the public. It was an access
[4:54:08] road that's closed. It's not
[4:54:10] the trail, and that people, you
[4:54:12] know, went into that closed-off
[4:54:14] area. So because of that, we've
[4:54:16] had discussions with the
[4:54:17] sheriff's department. We're
[4:54:20] looking into options for private
[4:54:21] security companies, and maybe it
[4:54:22] will pan out that we don't need
[4:54:25] it. But it's just an unknown
[4:54:27] right now.
[4:54:28] >>vincente sarmiento: okay. So,
[4:54:29] you know, I guess we want to do
[4:54:33] the right thing. I think the
[4:54:35] public certainly doesn't want to
[4:54:37] put the employees at risk. I
[4:54:38] don't think that's the goal. I
[4:54:39] think the goal is to make sure
[4:54:43] that the public has, you know,
[4:54:46] notice in advance of, you know,
[4:54:48] any sort of maintenance, any
[4:54:49] sort of, you know, spraying,
[4:54:50] anything else that could occur.
[4:54:53] But we have to balance it with
[4:54:53] the interest of the safety of
[4:54:55] the employees to make sure that
[4:54:57] nobody is going to be harmed,
[4:54:59] right, as they do their work.
[4:55:01] So that's my concern, is that we
[4:55:03] have to, you know -- it's not as
[4:55:07] easy as saying let's just do a
[4:55:09] noticing, you know, a public
[4:55:10] noticing requirement here. We
[4:55:13] also want to make sure that, you
[4:55:15] know, we anticipate and forecast
[4:55:16] the potential cost of making
[4:55:19] sure that we ensure the safety
[4:55:20] of the staff and employees who
[4:55:22] will be working at the site.
[4:55:24] And I'm not sure if that's been,
[4:55:26] you know, documented or has that
[4:55:28] been, you know -- has that been
[4:55:30] part of the analysis here, is
[4:55:33] that something you plan to do?
[4:55:34] >>speaker: it's part of what we
[4:55:36] plan to do. It's a part of
[4:55:40] this. We're also looking at --
[4:55:41] noticing that other counties or
[4:55:43] special districts or agencies
[4:55:45] do, because, you know, we can
[4:55:47] learn a lot by looking at what
[4:55:50] other do. So that will be a
[4:55:53] part of us developing this
[4:55:54] >>vincente sarmiento: that's
[4:55:56] great. As we work on this going
[4:55:58] forward, again, I'm supportive.
[4:55:59] I just think that there's a lot
[4:56:00] of questions, and I would ask to
[4:56:04] you look at what, you know,
[4:56:04] quantifying maybe some
[4:56:06] anticipated costs in the event
[4:56:08] that you see some safety
[4:56:09] measures that need to be
[4:56:12] included. Also, just making
[4:56:13] sure that if there are any
[4:56:16] delays that are going to be
[4:56:17] caused as a result of the
[4:56:19] noticing as well. And
[4:56:21] anything -- any other
[4:56:22] contingencies that you MAY see
[4:56:23] here. But thank you.
[4:56:26] Appreciate the responses..
[4:56:28] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[4:56:28] supervisor nguyen
[4:56:29] >>janet nguyen: thank you,
[4:56:31] MR. CHAIRMAN. Do we currently
[4:56:35] provide any notice?
[4:56:37] >>speaker: there is notice
[4:56:40] required by the department of
[4:56:42] pesticide regulation
[4:56:45] >>janet nguyen: so we do --
[4:56:45] because there's a statement that
[4:56:48] says that we don't provide any
[4:56:51] notices at all. My
[4:56:53] understanding is we do within
[4:56:56] the regulation of the department
[4:56:58] of pesticide regulation, which
[4:56:59] requires us to provide advanced
[4:57:01] notice to any individual who MAY
[4:57:04] enter the treated area.
[4:57:04] Correct?
[4:57:12] >>speaker: I believe that the
[4:57:13] --
[4:57:16] >>speaker: hi, edward fondoso,
[4:57:19] oc public works. One notice is
[4:57:21] the annual notification to any
[4:57:22] public agencies that MAY enter
[4:57:23] the work area, and then there's
[4:57:25] a second notification required
[4:57:28] for any individuals who MAY
[4:57:30] enter the work area
[4:57:31] >>janet nguyen: so it's not that
[4:57:34] we don't. Now, this proposal is
[4:57:37] adding additional notification.
[4:57:39] So I just want to make sure that
[4:57:40] we're -- it's clarified that
[4:57:42] there is current notification.
[4:57:47] Might not be what -- be liked.
[4:57:49] And so that's what you're look
[4:57:51] at. And then the public is
[4:57:52] currently restricted from going
[4:57:54] to the bottom of the flood
[4:57:56] control channels, correct?
[4:58:03] Because it's unsafe, right?
[4:58:05] >>speaker: that's correct. Yes.
[4:58:07] >>janet nguyen: that's it.
[4:58:10] Thank you.
[4:58:11] >>don wagner: we already provide
[4:58:13] notice. I'm not sure what the
[4:58:14] problem is we're here trying to
[4:58:17] solve because we already provide
[4:58:19] notice under probably both
[4:58:21] federal and state permits. And
[4:58:23] we're spraying them in areas
[4:58:25] where the public is not allowed
[4:58:28] to go. And we have experience
[4:58:33] in this county with the
[4:58:34] public -- the creek team
[4:58:36] members, I believe it was, going
[4:58:39] into the channels to harass and
[4:58:42] stop spraying that we were doing
[4:58:44] there. So all we're doing is
[4:58:45] giving them another opportunity
[4:58:48] to know when and where and
[4:58:52] harass our staff, and a make
[4:58:54] county has had protestors who
[4:58:58] have disrupted the spraying, to
[4:59:01] my understanding. Is that
[4:59:01] right?
[4:59:02] >>speaker: I'm not aware of
[4:59:04] whatever's going on in the
[4:59:05] neighboring counties.
[4:59:08] >>don wagner: so the -- what do
[4:59:13] we get with this policy besides
[4:59:15] more potential cost for
[4:59:18] enforcement when we -- we
[4:59:20] already give the notices out
[4:59:21] because they're required under
[4:59:23] the permits?
[4:59:24] >>speaker: so to clarify about
[4:59:25] the notice, it's an annual
[4:59:27] notice that's done. And then
[4:59:28] because of the treatments that
[4:59:30] we do are on the bottom of the
[4:59:35] channel, which is no trespassing
[4:59:37] areas, basically the
[4:59:39] notifications that we do is
[4:59:42] mainly to, I think the vector
[4:59:43] control district, because they
[4:59:45] have the authority, ability to
[4:59:48] go into areas like that, even
[4:59:49] though they're marked as no
[4:59:51] trespassing. But in general,
[4:59:53] there's no general noticing
[4:59:54] other than the annual notice
[4:59:56] because it's in the close-off
[4:59:57] area
[4:59:59] >>don wagner: there's no public
[5:00:00] >>speaker: yes
[5:00:01] >>don wagner: all right. Well,
[5:00:03] what about this we're spraying
[5:00:05] it within 10 feet or 5 feet and
[5:00:06] the wind blowing
[5:00:07] >>speaker: so because of that,
[5:00:09] and supervisor foley brought
[5:00:12] this up, we're looking at -- I
[5:00:14] don't know if we've implemented
[5:00:16] it yet because we haven't
[5:00:18] resumed herbicide work. We're
[5:00:21] looking at notices to put up on
[5:00:27] any adjacent public trails that
[5:00:29] we're working in an adjacent
[5:00:31] area. But that's more for
[5:00:33] information like informational
[5:00:33] signs
[5:00:34] >>don wagner: so what do we get
[5:00:41] with this policy? Just what the
[5:00:44] speaker said, increased
[5:00:44] transparency
[5:00:45] >>don wagner: but you're working
[5:00:46] on that notice anyway
[5:00:48] >>speaker: it's an annual notice
[5:00:49] that we do --
[5:00:52] >>don wagner: this is non-public
[5:00:53] areas
[5:01:00] >>speaker: yes.
[5:01:01] >>chair, don wagner: okay. You
[5:01:05] can't say what we get other than
[5:01:05] the --
[5:01:06] >>don wagner: you can't say what
[5:01:10] we get other than the extra
[5:01:15] costs? Thank you...
[5:01:17] >>chair, doug chaffee: back to
[5:01:17] vice-chair.
[5:01:18] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[5:01:21] you, MR. Onuma. I -- you know,
[5:01:24] we have expressed concern about
[5:01:26] the guerrilla tactics that were
[5:01:27] being used. And part of the
[5:01:29] reason why I'm bringing this
[5:01:32] forward is so that we can
[5:01:35] prevent that type of response.
[5:01:38] And a lot of what I've been
[5:01:40] hearing is that people are sort
[5:01:41] of taking the measures into
[5:01:43] their own hands, which we don't
[5:01:45] want them to do, because they
[5:01:48] don't have notice and they just
[5:01:49] suddenly see people out there
[5:01:51] spraying, and they haven't had a
[5:01:53] chance to avoid the area as an
[5:01:56] example. So this board, we
[5:01:58] pride ourselves on transparency
[5:02:01] and disclosure. The notice that
[5:02:03] is being used currently as you
[5:02:04] indicated is only going to the
[5:02:07] vector controller to maybe some
[5:02:09] public agencies, and I think
[5:02:12] it's by email, right? Or
[5:02:14] maybe -- like by mail. It's not
[5:02:17] a public noticing where the
[5:02:18] public would have knowledge
[5:02:22] about that. Is that right? Is
[5:02:24] that a yes? Yeah. Okay. And
[5:02:27] so that's what this agenda item
[5:02:31] is intended to solve for, is to
[5:02:34] get the public notice, because a
[5:02:36] good example -- the san juan
[5:02:38] creek. If there were to be
[5:02:41] herbicides sprayed there, along
[5:02:44] that bike trail, walking trail,
[5:02:46] right behind it is residential
[5:02:47] neighborhoods. Their backyards.
[5:02:48] I mean, it's very tight.
[5:02:51] You're talking about a 5 foot,
[5:02:54] 10 foot setback between where
[5:02:57] there might be work being done
[5:03:00] that caused herbicides to be
[5:03:02] sprayed in the public area. And
[5:03:03] so I think that was the concern
[5:03:06] that people had, is that there
[5:03:07] was no notice to give them an
[5:03:09] opportunity to avoid the area
[5:03:13] even if they wanted to. So I'm
[5:03:14] hopeful that my colleagues can
[5:03:17] sport item and direct staff to
[5:03:20] develop the noticing
[5:03:21] requirements. It's not going to
[5:03:24] hurt to have the public
[5:03:27] notified. This is a concern
[5:03:29] that the public has started to
[5:03:33] express more and more. We had
[5:03:34] been using chemicals as if they
[5:03:37] were okay because someone said
[5:03:38] they were okay. And I think
[5:03:40] that the science is changing,
[5:03:42] and it's not okay. And so
[5:03:44] giving people the notice to
[5:03:45] allow them to make decisions
[5:03:46] about their own lives is
[5:03:47] something that I would support,
[5:03:49] and I hope my colleagues do, as
[5:03:52] well. With that, I move the
[5:03:52] item..
[5:03:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: I think
[5:03:56] we've got a second all right.
[5:03:58] Yeah. We did. Supervisor
[5:03:59] wagner?
[5:04:00] >>don wagner: I'll just start by
[5:04:03] saying it is just, in my mind,
[5:04:05] patent nonsense that these
[5:04:06] guerrilla tactics that our
[5:04:07] employees have suffered through
[5:04:10] is because of a lack of notice.
[5:04:11] No, it's because of the
[5:04:12] spraying. And the spray
[5:04:13] something done pursuant to state
[5:04:15] and federal law. The spray
[5:04:17] something done at levels that
[5:04:18] are below what state and federal
[5:04:19] law permit, and the spray
[5:04:21] something done in places that
[5:04:25] the public is exexplicitly
[5:04:26] excluded from because it is
[5:04:27] dangerous. It is dangerous not
[5:04:29] just because of these chemicals,
[5:04:30] but for lots of other reasons.
[5:04:33] So the idea that notices are
[5:04:35] somehow going to say, all right,
[5:04:36] if you've given me notice, you
[5:04:38] can go ahead and spray all of
[5:04:39] these pesticides, I mean, that
[5:04:43] is just patently false and a
[5:04:44] will.
[5:04:45] Misreading of what has been
[5:04:49] going on out in the creeks. It
[5:04:50] also sounds to me like public
[5:04:51] works is trying to come up with
[5:04:55] a notice that is in addition to
[5:04:56] and supplemental of what is
[5:04:57] required under state and federal
[5:04:59] law. Great. I would encourage
[5:05:02] them to do that. I guess this
[5:05:05] item provides some formalism for
[5:05:08] that effort. So, you know, all
[5:05:09] right. More notice. More
[5:05:12] transparency. Fine. What I do
[5:05:15] worry about is that it gives the
[5:05:18] bad actors out there the
[5:05:20] opportunities to target our
[5:05:22] employees. I'm a little bit
[5:05:24] more robust -- they target our
[5:05:25] employees a little bit more
[5:05:26] robustly, a little bit more
[5:05:27] deliberately because they'll
[5:05:28] have knowledge of where they
[5:05:29] will be and when they will be
[5:05:31] there. But at the end of the
[5:05:32] day, if the public is looking
[5:05:35] for this notice and if our staff
[5:05:37] is going to try to develop
[5:05:38] something in nifnt, we might as
[5:05:41] well do this. It is a solution
[5:05:44] in search of a problem. It is
[5:05:46] potentially increasing danger to
[5:05:50] our workforce, but public works
[5:05:52] is gonna do it. Let's do it and
[5:05:54] see how it works out. We can
[5:05:58] always revisit it later..
[5:05:59] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[5:06:00] supervisor sarmiento?
[5:06:01] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,
[5:06:02] MR. Chair. I'll be brief. As
[5:06:05] we look at this again, and I do
[5:06:07] think that the notice that right
[5:06:09] now is -- or that we do, which
[5:06:11] is an annual, is insufficient in
[5:06:12] my opinion. I think, you know,
[5:06:15] we do want to improve on that.
[5:06:17] That is a very low bar. But I
[5:06:20] think if we can work on this
[5:06:20] whole -- you know, I think the
[5:06:22] premise of this makes sense.
[5:06:24] I'm supportive. But I think
[5:06:25] it's a little unclear, and it's
[5:06:29] a little vague when it comes to
[5:06:31] public notice where feasible. I
[5:06:32] don't know what that means. So
[5:06:35] if we can just get some clarity
[5:06:37] on that, you know, as we go
[5:06:40] through this, just so we're, you
[5:06:41] know -- so we have a better
[5:06:44] understanding, it's not quite so
[5:06:45] ambiguous, but certainly is
[5:06:46] something that to me is
[5:06:50] important. So thank you..
[5:06:51] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[5:06:54] right. My own comments, I share
[5:06:56] the concerns about employees
[5:06:59] being harassed and ask county
[5:07:01] counsel do we have any
[5:07:03] protective ordinances should our
[5:07:04] employees be larked? If you
[5:07:07] don't know, that's fine we can
[5:07:18] get to that later.
[5:07:20] >>leon page: protective
[5:07:21] ordinances, I'm not aware of
[5:07:23] anything like that. If a crime
[5:07:25] occurred in connection with
[5:07:27] ongoing spraying, the deputy
[5:07:28] sheriffs on site or the
[5:07:29] sheriff's department in general
[5:07:29] would get involved.
[5:07:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay. We
[5:07:33] MAY look at that as well. So I
[5:07:36] think the concept is a little
[5:07:37] different than they had no
[5:07:39] notices which are not public
[5:07:41] notices at all really. So I
[5:07:43] think something here is needed.
[5:07:45] But I'm not sure how extensive
[5:07:48] it needs to be. But I will go
[5:07:53] along with this and approve it.
[5:07:55] We'll see if it comes back.
[5:07:57] This is not the -- we have to
[5:07:58] come back and approve it, I
[5:08:01] assume. It's not just the final
[5:08:03] product, but you develop it, in
[5:08:04] order for it to be effective, it
[5:08:06] has to come back. I think
[5:08:07] that's intention along with all
[5:08:09] of the other studies you're
[5:08:11] doing anyway. So do we need --
[5:08:15] have a descent here? Okay. All
[5:08:16] right. It's been moved and
[5:08:18] seconded. Is there any
[5:08:20] objection? All right. It does
[5:08:22] pass unanimously. Thank you.
[5:08:30] We go on to supplement 94f.
[5:08:31] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94f.
[5:08:32] Under sheriff-coroner-approve
[5:08:32] amendment 1 to renew contract
[5:08:33] ma-060-25010599 with waters
[5:08:33] technologies corporation dba
[5:08:34] waters chromatography corp. For
[5:08:35] service, preventative
[5:08:35] maintenance and consumables for
[5:08:36] orange county crime lab's liquid
[5:08:37] chromatography mass
[5:08:38] spectrometers, 7/14/26-7/13/27
[5:08:39] ($325,000; cumulative total
[5:08:40] $625,000); renewable for three
[5:08:41] additional one-year terms; and
[5:08:42] authorize county procurement
[5:08:43] officer or deputized designee to
[5:08:46] execute amendment
[5:08:49] we have no requests to speak on
[5:08:50] s94f
[5:08:50] >>chair, doug chaffee: it's a
[5:08:53] district 2 item. Any objection?
[5:08:56] Motion carries. 94g.
[5:08:57] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94g.
[5:08:58] Under supervisor wagner-orange
[5:08:58] county human relations
[5:09:01] commission-appoint ilana
[5:09:03] meirovitch, coto de caza, for
[5:09:05] term concurrent with 3rd
[5:09:05] district supervisor'
[5:09:06] s term of
[5:09:06] office (Click for files)
[5:09:11] S94h. Supervisor wagner-
[5:09:13] -- we have no requests to speak
[5:09:15] on s94g
[5:09:17] >>don wagner: this is to replace
[5:09:18] rabbi steinberg on the
[5:09:19] commission. I want to thank him
[5:09:23] again for his service and thank
[5:09:25] MS. M for stepping up and thank
[5:09:27] d5 for concurrence on this one.
[5:09:29] I'll move the item.
[5:09:30] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
[5:09:31] second. I really enjoyed
[5:09:34] working with ilana
[5:09:35] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[5:09:37] seconded. Seeing no objection.
[5:09:43] Item is approved.. Supplement
[5:09:51] 94j.
[5:09:52] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94j.
[5:09:52] Under chair chaffee-orange
[5:09:53] county workforce development
[5:09:54] board-appoint anastasia rose
[5:09:54] zamora-ortiz, yucaipa, to
[5:09:55] complete term ending 12/31/27;
[5:09:56] and approve waiver of residency
[5:09:56] requirements (Click for files)
[5:09:57] S94k. Oc waste & recycling-
[5:09:58] approve amendments to exclusive
[5:09:58] franchise agreements for
[5:09:59] discarded materials management
[5:09:59] services; and authorize director
[5:10:00] or designee to execute
[5:10:01] amendments and make minor
[5:10:02] changes under certain conditions
[5:10:05] we have no requests to speak.
[5:10:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is
[5:10:08] my item, I'll move it. Moved
[5:10:09] and seconded. Any objection?
[5:10:11] Item is approved. Thank you.
[5:10:25] We go to supplement 94k.
[5:10:26] S94k. Oc waste & recycling-
[5:10:26] approve amendments to exclusive
[5:10:27] franchise agreements for
[5:10:27] discarded materials management
[5:10:28] services; and authorize director
[5:10:29] or designee to execute
[5:10:29] amendments and make minor
[5:10:32] changes under certain conditions
[5:10:34] we have no requests to speak.
[5:10:35] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[5:10:36] all-district item. Moved and
[5:10:38] seconded. Any objection? Item
[5:10:49] is approved. Supplement 94v.
[5:10:50] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94v.
[5:10:51] Under clerk of the board-
[5:10:51] approve revised board of
[5:10:52] supervisor's rules of procedure
[5:10:53] to include new brown act
[5:10:55] requirements and other
[5:10:57] administrative changes. We have
[5:11:01] no requests to speak. Is.
[5:11:02] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[5:11:03] vice-chair foley.
[5:11:04] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: rule
[5:11:06] number 48 is being proposed to
[5:11:07] be updated to reduce the comment
[5:11:08] time from three minutes to 2
[5:11:10] minutes. However, I think that
[5:11:12] should be left to the discretion
[5:11:13] of the chair, like it currently
[5:11:16] is now, instead of it being
[5:11:17] codified. We should keep it at
[5:11:20] three minutes, in other words.
[5:11:20] .
[5:11:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[5:11:23] right. What do we say as to
[5:11:25] that, other supervisors?
[5:11:27] Supervisor wagner?
[5:11:28] >>don wagner: well, having
[5:11:30] this -- this has been thought
[5:11:32] through, looked at, I don't have
[5:11:34] a problem with that change. And
[5:11:39] it is always at distress of the
[5:11:41] chair to cut or, I suppose, can
[5:11:42] expand in cases where
[5:11:45] appropriate. So I don't see a
[5:11:48] point to pick any of these rules
[5:11:49] individually. I'd leave it as
[5:11:49] propped.
[5:11:51] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'll
[5:11:52] withdraw my second.
[5:11:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[5:11:56] second as proposed. Any other
[5:11:57] comments.
[5:11:57] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: no.
[5:12:00] I withdraw my second because I
[5:12:01] don't support codifying that we
[5:12:03] will go from 3 minutes to 2
[5:12:06] minutes, and that becomes the
[5:12:07] new rule. Everyone gets 2
[5:12:09] minutes and then the chair has
[5:12:10] discretion whether they get
[5:12:14] less. So that's why.
[5:12:16] >>chair, doug chaffee: the chair
[5:12:19] could make it more too. All
[5:12:20] right. I will second the item.
[5:12:23] Is there any objection?
[5:12:26] Vice-chair, do you wish to
[5:12:26] register a no.
[5:12:27] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: well,
[5:12:29] I'll register a no on that. Can
[5:12:32] I register a no on that section
[5:12:35] or do I vote no on the whole
[5:12:36] thing? Because I support the
[5:12:37] change. I mean, it's state law.
[5:12:38] We have to change it. The only
[5:12:41] thing we're not changing as it
[5:12:41] relates to state law is that
[5:12:42] we've reduced the time that the
[5:12:44] public has to talk to us, which
[5:12:46] I don't support.
[5:12:46] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay. Is
[5:12:49] that all right just to note that
[5:12:52] objection to that?
[5:12:54] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes
[5:12:55] >>chair, doug chaffee: so noted.
[5:12:56] Supervisor sarmiento?
[5:12:57] >>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank
[5:12:59] you, MR. Chair. I'm going to
[5:13:02] also on the record oppose that
[5:13:04] change for the time limit for
[5:13:06] speakers to have. To me,th
[5:13:08] always when you reduce it, much
[5:13:09] more difficult to expand the
[5:13:10] time for people to speak rather
[5:13:12] than contract it. So I'd rather
[5:13:14] have our default be three
[5:13:17] minutes as we've always had that
[5:13:18] standard at most public
[5:13:21] meetings. We will be an outlier
[5:13:22] again to reduce it to 2. If we
[5:13:24] need to go to 2 just like we had
[5:13:27] to today, we had to go to 1,
[5:13:28] that's up to the chair's
[5:13:29] discretion when we had a very
[5:13:30] busy agenda. So I don't agree
[5:13:33] we having our default contracted
[5:13:35] from three minutes to 2..
[5:13:36] >>chair, doug chaffee: back to
[5:13:37] supervisor wagner
[5:13:39] >>don wagner: briefly, this
[5:13:41] didn't come out of the blue.
[5:13:43] The fact is state law has
[5:13:46] changed, requiring a much more
[5:13:49] robust, interactive, virtual
[5:13:52] opportunity to speak. And
[5:13:54] supervisor nguyen and I both
[5:13:56] have had an opportunity for
[5:13:58] example to serve on the south
[5:13:58] coast air quality management
[5:13:59] district where they have for a
[5:14:03] long time allowed that type of
[5:14:05] participation, and you can have
[5:14:07] public comments that reach up to
[5:14:09] four and five hours, in my
[5:14:11] experience. And you've been
[5:14:12] there a little bit longer. And
[5:14:14] so what we're trying to do here,
[5:14:16] what make the most sense to me,
[5:14:19] is -- because when we cut down
[5:14:22] the amount of time, we always
[5:14:24] get speakers who are -- you
[5:14:26] know, we had two that needed to
[5:14:28] be removed by the sheriff at our
[5:14:30] last meeting. And so set bar at
[5:14:34] 2 because we've got a whole new
[5:14:37] environment with these virtual
[5:14:38] call-ins, evaluate it after a
[5:14:39] certain period if we want to.
[5:14:41] We can always do that. But we
[5:14:45] are much better off, in my
[5:14:46] mind -- and the reason for the
[5:14:48] rule change, is that we're going
[5:14:50] to have a new environment. And
[5:14:54] what we don't want to do is
[5:14:55] unnecessarily cause people to
[5:14:57] say, oh, you're just shutting me
[5:14:58] down or have to have a sheriff
[5:15:00] come out or have to hang up on
[5:15:02] somebody. We try to avoid all
[5:15:04] of those problems by being
[5:15:06] proactive right now and, if more
[5:15:09] time is needed or if there
[5:15:10] aren't the volume of speakers
[5:15:12] that some people worry about, we
[5:15:16] can deal with it on the fly..
[5:15:18] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[5:15:18] you, supervisor nguyen?
[5:15:20] >>janet nguyen: thank you,
[5:15:25] MR. CHAIRMAN. I actually on the
[5:15:27] mindset of allowing the chair to
[5:15:29] make that discretion and/or
[5:15:33] maybe we talked about the online
[5:15:36] because supervisor wagner is
[5:15:38] correct, at aqmd we have
[5:15:39] sometimes the difference between
[5:15:41] public speaking timeframe and
[5:15:43] also online. We did -- had a
[5:15:46] meeting that went for six hours,
[5:15:48] and two or three hours of that
[5:15:50] was just online. And people
[5:15:52] called from all over the state
[5:15:54] of california, not just in the
[5:15:55] effected area that we represent
[5:16:00] at aqmd but all over california,
[5:16:01] all overnight nation, as well.
[5:16:03] And so I think, you know,
[5:16:05] allowing the CHAIRMAN Of or
[5:16:07] CHAIRWOMAN To make that decision
[5:16:10] moving forward, I would be more
[5:16:13] comfortable and not capped us
[5:16:13] immediately at this time and
[5:16:15] have that flexibility whether,
[5:16:17] you know, when we do transition
[5:16:19] to the new system, having it
[5:16:21] online, as well, as to allow the
[5:16:23] chair to decide, okay, if it's,
[5:16:25] you know -- we've -- I've
[5:16:27] actually been on, I think it was
[5:16:30] like 30 seconds at aqmd because
[5:16:31] we had hundreds and hundreds of
[5:16:36] people calling in. I think it
[5:16:38] should be up to the discretion
[5:16:39] of the chair. And so I'm not
[5:16:42] opposed to the two. I'm not
[5:16:45] opposed to the three, but I
[5:16:46] cannot -- I don't want to go to
[5:16:47] just capping it at two right
[5:16:49] now. I think we stay where
[5:16:51] we're at and then allow the
[5:16:54] chair to make that discretion.
[5:16:54] .
[5:16:55] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[5:16:57] Well, I'm not sure where we're
[5:17:00] at. I support the 2 minutes.
[5:17:02] Because you can't tell when
[5:17:05] people call in how long they
[5:17:06] might speak. You probably
[5:17:09] didn't hear the admonition in
[5:17:10] the first place. So I think
[5:17:13] some standard should be there.
[5:17:15] And I've been involved in
[5:17:17] meetings too where we have
[5:17:18] people calling in and now it has
[5:17:20] to be online, and it's more than
[5:17:23] that, you have to make certain
[5:17:24] the connections there.
[5:17:26] Sometimes you have a delay in
[5:17:27] even making the connection. So
[5:17:29] it takes a lot more time to do
[5:17:39] these kinds things.. Back to
[5:17:40] vice-chair.
[5:17:41] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I'm
[5:17:42] not concerned about cutting off
[5:17:44] the person at designated time.
[5:17:45] It's actually easier to do
[5:17:48] online. The city of costa mesa
[5:17:49] during the pandemic, we went to
[5:17:50] online and they have remained
[5:17:52] online. And sometimes they have
[5:17:54] one person show up. Sometimes
[5:17:56] they have 20. Just depends on
[5:17:57] the issue at council meeting.
[5:17:59] But the way the system is set up
[5:18:02] is that it automatically cuts
[5:18:05] off at the 3-minute mark
[5:18:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: no, they
[5:18:09] have to -- you have to remind
[5:18:09] them.
[5:18:10] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: the
[5:18:12] clerk cuts it off automatically
[5:18:14] at 3 minute mark.
[5:18:15] >>chair, doug chaffee: that's
[5:18:16] not what we're doing here.
[5:18:17] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: well,
[5:18:19] that seems to me that that's
[5:18:21] what most all of the other
[5:18:23] organizations that utilize
[5:18:26] online, they have an automatic
[5:18:32] cut-off -- is that right,
[5:18:34] MS. Styleler?
[5:18:35] >>clerk, robin stieler: the
[5:18:37] virtual calls does not have an
[5:18:38] automatic but we will have a
[5:18:39] timer to monitor the time where
[5:18:44] I can stop the speaker at the
[5:18:44] time.
[5:18:46] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: so
[5:18:48] then you or your staff can
[5:18:50] automatically move to the next
[5:18:50] person
[5:19:03] >>clerk, robin stieler: yes.
[5:19:06] >>leon page: and the L.A. County
[5:19:08] board of supervisors only allows
[5:19:09] 1 minute.
[5:19:11] >>clerk, robin stieler: there's
[5:19:12] no designation. It's the same
[5:19:13] across the board.
[5:19:14] >>chair, doug chaffee: we have a
[5:19:17] motion to accept the document as
[5:19:18] presented and a couple
[5:19:20] supervisors who object to one
[5:19:23] part of the item. So I don't
[5:19:25] know. Do we need to call the
[5:19:27] roll here? Go ahead, call the
[5:19:28] roll. We have a motion, moved
[5:19:38] and seconded.. There's 3 of us
[5:19:40] who want to keep it at three
[5:19:40] minutes
[5:19:41] >>don wagner: I'll withdraw.
[5:19:42] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay.
[5:19:43] I'll move the recommended
[5:19:47] action with three minutes..
[5:19:48] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay, I
[5:19:51] will object to that myself, to
[5:19:55] that part of the item. But the
[5:19:59] rest I agree to. And looks like
[5:20:02] we have un anymore mitt on all
[5:20:04] of the rest. So with that,
[5:20:08] we'll move on, unanimity on all
[5:20:21] of the rest. Supplement 94x.
[5:20:22] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94x.
[5:20:23] Under supervisor sarmiento-
[5:20:23] orange county cemetery district
[5:20:25] -appoint donna marsh peery, tustin,
[5:20:27] to complete term ending 1/3/28
[5:20:29] and we have no requests to
[5:20:30] speak.
[5:20:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: moved and
[5:20:33] seconded, any objection? Item
[5:20:35] is approved. We come to
[5:20:38] supplement 94z.
[5:20:38] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94z.
[5:20:39] Under county executive office-
[5:20:40] approve new ground lease
[5:20:40] agreements with dphp hotels, llc
[5:20:41] including full service hotel
[5:20:42] ground lease and select-service
[5:20:43] hotel ground lease for hotel
[5:20:43] component, with dana point
[5:20:44] harbor partners, llc for
[5:20:46] commercial core and marina component,
[5:20:46] and with dana point harbor
[5:20:47] partners drystack, llc for
[5:20:48] drystack components of dana
[5:20:49] point harbor revitalization
[5:20:49] project, 66-year terms; approve
[5:20:50] memorandum of understanding
[5:20:51] (Mou) With dana point harbor
[5:20:52] partners, llc for intention to
[5:20:54] negotiate lease and lease
[5:20:56] amendment at oc sailing & events
[5:20:57] center within 180 days; and
[5:20:59] authorize chief real estate
[5:21:04] officer or designee to
[5:21:07] execute lease agreements,
[5:21:11] amendments, mou and related
[5:21:18] documents under certain conditions
[5:21:20] and MR. Chair, we've received
[5:21:28] six requests to speak on s94z..
[5:21:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: please
[5:21:33] call the speakers
[5:21:34] >>clerk, robin stieler: mayor
[5:21:38] john gabard and eubanks and lisa
[5:21:42] h, please come forward.
[5:21:47] >>speaker: chair, supervisors,
[5:21:49] I'm john cab done, mayor of dana
[5:21:51] point. The harbor is owned by
[5:21:53] all of us but managed by and
[5:21:56] governed by u-5, and I need your
[5:21:58] help. I'm here in support of
[5:21:59] advancing the dana point harbors
[5:22:01] hotel projects. The hotels
[5:22:03] represent a major economic
[5:22:04] opportunity for the county and
[5:22:05] the city of dana point. Beyond
[5:22:07] the revenue this project will
[5:22:09] generate jobs and increase
[5:22:11] economic activity and elevate
[5:22:13] dana point's harbor in what is
[5:22:15] poseed to be a premier harbor
[5:22:17] for the west coast. I must
[5:22:18] express my concern that with the
[5:22:20] proposed hotel lease access
[5:22:22] right provision, quite simply
[5:22:24] the provision threatens to
[5:22:25] deliver these hotels and will
[5:22:28] cause an $80 million loss in
[5:22:29] dana point revenues. We have
[5:22:31] seen abuse by county officials
[5:22:32] and county employees before in
[5:22:34] the harbor hotels. That history
[5:22:36] underscores the need for clear,
[5:22:38] enforceable standards to prevent
[5:22:40] abuse and misuse. Accordingly,
[5:22:44] I respectfully urge the board to
[5:22:47] support the hotel changes and
[5:22:49] revise the hotel lease to align
[5:22:51] with the market standards
[5:22:52] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[5:22:55] you, sir.
[5:22:59] >>speaker: thank you.
[5:23:03] >>speaker: I'm anne eubanks from
[5:23:05] allysa viejo. I'm PRESIDENT Of
[5:23:08] the dana point boaters
[5:23:08] association. I had some
[5:23:09] comments to make on the lease
[5:23:11] today but decided for
[5:23:15] clarification of transparency of
[5:23:18] the board, wanted to pose two
[5:23:21] questions. This agenda item was
[5:23:23] supposedly added late friday
[5:23:24] afternoon, but when checking the
[5:23:28] agenda on sunday on the board of
[5:23:29] supervisors' web site to didn't
[5:23:31] show up. It wasn't until monday
[5:23:32] morning, yesterday, that it
[5:23:33] could be viewed by the public.
[5:23:37] My question is, does this meet
[5:23:38] brown act requirements if it's
[5:23:40] not viewable by the public
[5:23:42] within 72 hours of the meeting?
[5:23:45] And since this is a 66-year
[5:23:47] lease of public land use, I
[5:23:48] believe extended notice is
[5:23:50] required of 10-plus days or
[5:23:52] more. Can you advise what was
[5:23:54] the procedure used for extended
[5:23:57] proper notification? Using
[5:23:59] supervisor sarmiento's words,
[5:24:01] this agenda item up here appears
[5:24:04] to be all 11th hour. If
[5:24:07] improper notice was used, then
[5:24:09] this could invalidate actions
[5:24:11] today. So I don't.
[5:24:12] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[5:24:12] you, ma'am.
[5:24:15] >>speaker: thank you.
[5:24:17] >>clerk, robin stieler: and the
[5:24:18] last three speakers, please come
[5:24:22] forward, kate, joe, and bob
[5:24:24] olson.
[5:24:25] >>speaker: you are asking this
[5:24:28] board to approve a 66-year
[5:24:29] master ground lease, a decision
[5:24:32] that will define the harbor for
[5:24:33] two generations after dropping
[5:24:35] the documents on the public at
[5:24:37] 7:22 A.M. The monday before the
[5:24:38] meeting with the excuse that
[5:24:40] they were still being finalized.
[5:24:42] Let's be clear, this is not
[5:24:43] governance. This is a
[5:24:46] deliberate attempt to bypass
[5:24:47] public scrutiny. I have
[5:24:49] reviewed the minutes for every
[5:24:50] dana point harbor oversight
[5:24:53] advisory committee meeting in
[5:24:54] 2026. This committee is touted
[5:24:57] by the fifth district as the
[5:25:00] central hub for transparency. I
[5:25:03] saw nothing in there about
[5:25:04] combining all four of these
[5:25:08] contracts into one signing here
[5:25:11] today. We need leadership in
[5:25:15] district 5 that restores
[5:25:17] accountability. I am submitting
[5:25:19] a formal request for due
[5:25:23] diligence regarding item s94z.
[5:25:24] I'm demanding you explain why
[5:25:26] the oversight committee was
[5:25:28] bypassed and why this 66-year
[5:25:30] deal is being rushed through
[5:25:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[5:25:31] you.
[5:25:36] >>speaker: thank you.
[5:25:39] >>speaker: hello. I'm joe, the
[5:25:41] marine partner of dana point
[5:25:43] harbor partners. We're really
[5:25:45] excited about this project. We
[5:25:46] have a goal of being completed
[5:25:48] before the olympics, and that's
[5:25:52] the goal of this item here. It
[5:25:54] allows us to preserve the grand
[5:25:55] pries we have with our current
[5:25:57] lender, pack life, and allows us
[5:25:59] to move forward with the hotels.
[5:26:01] i look forward to your support.
[5:26:02] Thank you..
[5:26:05] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank you
[5:26:08] you.
[5:26:11] >>speaker: good morning. This
[5:26:12] county has made a total disaster
[5:26:13] of the renovations of the
[5:26:18] harbor. It has become dana
[5:26:19] point's train to nowhere. From
[5:26:20] the beginning it took years to
[5:26:22] approve the design, then they
[5:26:25] selected design that has no
[5:26:28] architectural integrity, which
[5:26:29] is to the area which is a
[5:26:33] travesty. The cost overruns and
[5:26:35] decisions to outsource
[5:26:36] construction of the moorings is
[5:26:38] another example of fraud and
[5:26:41] waste. The uncertainty and
[5:26:44] delays to businesses and marine
[5:26:45] communities has been devastated.
[5:26:47] Now they want to give away more
[5:26:48] money due to their
[5:26:51] mismanagement. The board of
[5:26:52] supervisors have been
[5:26:54] responsible for all of this for
[5:27:01] the past 15 years. Thank you.
[5:27:04] >>speaker: hi, my name is bob
[5:27:07] olson. I am the -- one of
[5:27:09] partners of dana point harbor
[5:27:11] partners, rd olson, and in
[5:27:13] charge of hotels. Just to tell
[5:27:15] you a little bit, one of our
[5:27:17] hotels -- both of our hotels
[5:27:18] have gone through coastal
[5:27:19] commission, six years through
[5:27:23] the process. We have -- are
[5:27:24] providing one of the hotels as
[5:27:26] an affordable rate hotel, which
[5:27:28] is rate restricted, will be the
[5:27:31] first privately-financed hotel
[5:27:33] such like that. Additionally,
[5:27:36] we are providing social justice
[5:27:38] programs through our hotels at
[5:27:39] the site. Also working with the
[5:27:42] county on that. There is one
[5:27:46] provision that we're requesting
[5:27:50] to remove from our -- the lease.
[5:27:51] I think it's reasonable
[5:27:53] request. We do not have a
[5:27:54] lender on board yet, and we will
[5:27:56] need to have their support to
[5:27:57] make this happen. Thank you.
[5:27:59] >>clerk, robin stieler: no
[5:28:00] further speakers, MR. Chair..
[5:28:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[5:28:05] Yes, thank you. I had it passed
[5:28:08] out and don't know -- dph
[5:28:09] recommended action.
[5:28:09] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[5:28:10] MR. CHAIRMAN, I'm going to make
[5:28:12] a motion related to that. I
[5:28:13] wanted you to have it, but first
[5:28:16] I have a question for MR. Page.
[5:28:17] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay. I
[5:28:18] was just now reading it.
[5:28:19] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
[5:28:21] just passed it out to you, yes
[5:28:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[5:28:22] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[5:28:23] MR. Page, there was a concern
[5:28:25] expressed that we needed 10-days
[5:28:28] in order to hear this item
[5:28:31] because of the 66-year lease.
[5:28:32] I'm just parroting what the
[5:28:34] public said. You can please
[5:28:35] advise.
[5:28:36] >>leon page: I'm not aware of
[5:28:37] that requirement. With respect
[5:28:40] to the brown act's in thing
[5:28:41] requirements, as the school
[5:28:44] board aware, each and every item
[5:28:46] of business ought to be
[5:28:47] transacted or discussed by the
[5:28:49] board, has to be published on a
[5:28:50] notice agenda 72 hours in
[5:28:53] advance of the meeting. And I'm
[5:28:54] looking at agendas for this
[5:28:59] meeting, and it was last updated
[5:29:01] 6:19-2026 at 4:20 P.M. So that's
[5:29:03] in compliance with the 72-hour
[5:29:04] requirement. The requirement
[5:29:06] does not apply with attachments.
[5:29:07] That's often the case with
[5:29:09] county business. We have the
[5:29:10] recommended actions in place.
[5:29:11] We have the items of businesses
[5:29:13] to be trance acted or discussed
[5:29:14] described. But we still might
[5:29:16] be making, you know, a tweak to
[5:29:19] an attachment, and that's
[5:29:20] standard practice..
[5:29:22] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[5:29:24] you. MR. CHAIRMAN.
[5:29:25] >>chair, doug chaffee: yes, go
[5:29:25] ahead.
[5:29:26] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: thank
[5:29:27] you. So I remain excited about
[5:29:29] the harbor and the
[5:29:31] revitalization project. It's
[5:29:32] going to bring a lot of jobs, a
[5:29:34] lot of revenue. It's improving
[5:29:38] the water quality. It's
[5:29:42] modernizing an area that is in
[5:29:43] desperate need of modernization,
[5:29:47] and for the last three years
[5:29:48] since I joined the board as the
[5:29:51] district 5 representative, I've
[5:29:53] really tried to be an asset, an
[5:29:56] ally and a supporter of moving
[5:29:59] the project forward. I know
[5:30:03] alyssa napori and my -- in my
[5:30:05] office and I have worked a lot
[5:30:06] on getting the coastal
[5:30:08] commission permitting, making
[5:30:11] sure that all of the boater
[5:30:14] questions are answered,
[5:30:16] developing good working
[5:30:16] relationships with all of the
[5:30:19] stakeholder groups. But, of
[5:30:22] course, you can't please
[5:30:29] everyone. And my concern is
[5:30:31] that -- I'm very concerned with
[5:30:33] the mayor's comments. I'll just
[5:30:35] say that. I thought that was a
[5:30:36] little over the top. But for
[5:30:38] the board's awareness and for
[5:30:43] the public's awareness, in an
[5:30:49] effort to what I would consider
[5:30:50] correct, the development
[5:30:52] agreement that was approved by a
[5:30:54] prior board, you know, nearly 10
[5:30:57] years ago, we, working with
[5:31:01] county real estate and the ceo's
[5:31:04] office -- we really tried to get
[5:31:07] more public benefit for the
[5:31:11] residents and the visitors of
[5:31:14] the harbor for the county. And
[5:31:16] in exchange for the
[5:31:18] consideration of the additional
[5:31:20] years, the additional
[5:31:22] entitlement. So we tried to get
[5:31:24] a higher percentage of rent
[5:31:27] payments because we thought that
[5:31:28] the contract that was originally
[5:31:31] negotiated was low. We tried to
[5:31:34] get a minimum annual rent
[5:31:35] payment increase based on
[5:31:37] financing success, like, for
[5:31:40] example, if they refinance upon
[5:31:41] closing that financing event,
[5:31:43] the minimum rent could increase,
[5:31:44] ensuring that the county
[5:31:45] receives a fair shaver the
[5:31:47] tenants' increased financial
[5:31:50] capacity. We tried to shorten
[5:31:54] or eliminate the construction
[5:31:55] rent abatement periods related
[5:31:57] to the annual minimum rent or
[5:31:59] percentage rent. As an example,
[5:32:00] there's a construction period.
[5:32:01] So the delay in the county
[5:32:05] receiving funds while the hotels
[5:32:06] get into operational mode.
[5:32:08] Well, at the time it wasn't
[5:32:09] contemplated that the olympics
[5:32:11] was coming and that those hotels
[5:32:13] would be filled up maybe a lot
[5:32:16] more quickly. We tried to get
[5:32:18] additional improvements, not
[5:32:20] currently covered in the
[5:32:22] contract. We requested that
[5:32:24] dana point harbor partners make
[5:32:25] additional improvements to the
[5:32:28] harbor that would benefit the
[5:32:30] county. Such improvements to be
[5:32:32] upgrades to the common areas,
[5:32:33] other enhancements that increase
[5:32:35] the value of the property or the
[5:32:38] usefulness to the county. We
[5:32:43] tried to get support for the oc
[5:32:45] c event center modernization.
[5:32:47] New harbor patrol docks for the
[5:32:50] harbor patrol. The white sea
[5:32:53] bass pins. We tried to
[5:32:54] negotiate the slip fees, which
[5:33:02] has been a very challenging
[5:33:05] issue, we tried to get a slip
[5:33:05] rate stabilization and a slip
[5:33:07] rate formula that would be a
[5:33:11] little bit more friendly. There
[5:33:14] are elements that we could not
[5:33:18] get agreement on, and so we --
[5:33:21] the contract that is before you
[5:33:22] is what ceo real estate and the
[5:33:26] ceo's office was able to
[5:33:28] negotiate. And one of those
[5:33:31] elements was that the county
[5:33:33] would have access, if the county
[5:33:34] department heads wanted to have
[5:33:36] a meeting in an available
[5:33:37] meeting room that's not being
[5:33:39] used, that's not being rebelled,
[5:33:41] that they could have access --
[5:33:43] that's not being rented, that
[5:33:45] they could have access and use
[5:33:46] that space for free of charge at
[5:33:48] public harbor. That was not
[5:33:53] agreed to. So I'm just
[5:33:58] concerned that in this situation
[5:34:00] the principal to whom much
[5:34:03] is given, much is required,
[5:34:07] seems not to follow. So I've
[5:34:11] passed out some edits that --
[5:34:13] and a proposal that I have to
[5:34:15] address some of the concerns
[5:34:20] that have been raised and that
[5:34:22] could not get negotiated. And I
[5:34:27] would ask that these items be
[5:34:29] added to the lease agreement.
[5:34:32] And I'll just read it into the
[5:34:34] record. So direct ceo real
[5:34:36] estate and county counsel, to
[5:34:39] revise attachment a, the master
[5:34:40] ground lease hotel component
[5:34:43] lease with dana harbor partners
[5:34:45] llc to require a labor piece
[5:34:46] agreement for future hotel
[5:34:48] operations at dana point harbor.
[5:34:49] A labor peace agreement is a
[5:34:51] written agreement between a
[5:34:52] hotel employer and the labor
[5:34:54] organization that protects hotel
[5:34:56] operations from labor disruption
[5:34:58] by prohibiting strikes,
[5:35:00] picketing, boycotts, worker
[5:35:02] stoppages, slowdowns or other
[5:35:04] economic activity that would
[5:35:04] interfere with the operations.
[5:35:06] The requirement does not require
[5:35:08] the hotel to be unionized,
[5:35:11] compel recognition of any
[5:35:12] specific labor organization,
[5:35:14] dictate any representation,
[5:35:16] outcome or require any party to
[5:35:17] violate federal or state labor
[5:35:19] law. The reason I'm asking for
[5:35:19] this is because I've been
[5:35:22] contacted by unite here who has
[5:35:24] expressed concern about not
[5:35:26] having a plan for the workers
[5:35:31] once the building is torn down.
[5:35:33] Direct county staff -- number 2,
[5:35:34] direct county staff to work with
[5:35:38] the current hotelier and develop
[5:35:41] our oc workforce solutions and
[5:35:42] the state employment development
[5:35:43] department to support employees
[5:35:45] impacted by the planned hotel
[5:35:46] closure and demolition and
[5:35:47] create a workforce transition
[5:35:49] plan. This work should include
[5:35:52] confirmation of any applicable
[5:35:54] warrant act notice obligations,
[5:35:56] rapid response services, job
[5:35:58] placement assistance, retraining
[5:36:00] resources, unemployment
[5:36:01] insurance information,
[5:36:02] coordination with nearby
[5:36:03] hospitality employers for
[5:36:04] potential reemployment
[5:36:06] opportunities and identifying
[5:36:08] the number of effected
[5:36:11] employees, anticipated closure
[5:36:13] timeline and employee
[5:36:14] classifications, proposed notice
[5:36:17] schedule and available severance
[5:36:19] benefits transfer or recall
[5:36:20] opportunities. This is
[5:36:21] important because the building
[5:36:22] will be torn down within the
[5:36:23] next three months and -- maybe
[5:36:25] four. And so many people are
[5:36:27] going to be losing their jobs,
[5:36:28] and that has not yet been
[5:36:30] addressed in these negotiations.
[5:36:34] Number 3, direct ceo real
[5:36:35] estate county counsel who revise
[5:36:37] attachment b, the master grand
[5:36:40] lease commercial corps marina
[5:36:42] exoan went dana point harbor
[5:36:46] partners llc, section 11.9, to
[5:36:47] establish a slip rate
[5:36:49] stabilization policy for future
[5:36:50] slip rental rate increases after
[5:36:53] the JULY 1st, 2026 adjustment,
[5:36:54] including the following
[5:36:56] requirements. Require any
[5:36:59] future slip rate increase to be
[5:37:01] submitted to the ceo real estate
[5:37:03] office at least 90 days before
[5:37:05] the proposed effective date.
[5:37:07] Require each proposed slip rate
[5:37:08] increase to include a detailed
[5:37:11] marina slip survey of comparable
[5:37:12] southern california marinas from
[5:37:14] santa barbara to san diego with
[5:37:17] emphasis on comparable,
[5:37:18] publically-owned marinas. Limit
[5:37:20] annual slip rate increases to
[5:37:21] cumulative change in the
[5:37:23] consumer price index and cap any
[5:37:26] annual increase at 5% per slip
[5:37:28] size category unless a
[5:37:30] fifth-year market adjustment
[5:37:31] applies. Beginning in 2030,
[5:37:33] allow a fifth-year market
[5:37:35] adjustment above cumulative cpi
[5:37:38] only when supported by a marina
[5:37:39] slip survey conducted by a
[5:37:41] credentialed appraiser. And
[5:37:44] finally require the fifth-year
[5:37:45] market survey to include
[5:37:46] operable southern california
[5:37:48] publically-owned marinas and
[5:37:50] prohibit reliance on a single
[5:37:53] harbor such as newport beach.
[5:37:56] F, cap any fifth-year market
[5:37:57] adjustment at 10%. So these are
[5:38:00] the additions that I would like
[5:38:03] to include in the motion to
[5:38:05] approve the staff-recommended
[5:38:07] action. And I have one for real
[5:38:13] state, as well..
[5:38:13] >>chair, doug chaffee:
[5:38:14] supervisor wagner
[5:38:15] >>don wagner: I will move the
[5:38:17] item without the recommendations
[5:38:21] that were just dropped on us.
[5:38:25] The idea, you know, to whom much
[5:38:27] is given much is owed is fine,
[5:38:32] and it's right. The suggestion
[5:38:33] that the developers throughout
[5:38:36] are not in fact giving to the
[5:38:40] county, though, is not at all
[5:38:42] supported by the record. In
[5:38:43] fact, the county stands to
[5:38:44] benefit to the tune of millions
[5:38:49] of dollars from this proposal,
[5:38:51] and the changes that were just
[5:38:55] sort of dropped on us, forget
[5:38:56] whether they're workable. They
[5:38:58] haven't been vetted by anybody
[5:39:01] in the first place. I'm certain
[5:39:04] it would cause the hoteliers to
[5:39:06] spim walk away from the deal
[5:39:07] because -- simply walk away from
[5:39:09] the deal because you cannot
[5:39:11] finance the proposal that they
[5:39:15] are trying to finance. You
[5:39:18] cannot do what is trying to be
[5:39:20] done here to the benefit of the
[5:39:20] residents of all of orange
[5:39:22] county to the benefit of the
[5:39:26] county under these conditions.
[5:39:29] This has been a long time
[5:39:32] coming. The need to get it done
[5:39:35] and get it done now is explained
[5:39:39] by MR. Uberroth attempting to
[5:39:41] reach the completion prior to
[5:39:42] the L.A. Olympics, to benefit
[5:39:45] from, to get the advantages to
[5:39:47] the county, the city of dana
[5:39:48] point that the olympics in our
[5:39:51] backyard will give to us, to try
[5:39:56] to hold that up now, you know,
[5:40:00] frankly goes over the hog line.
[5:40:02] Pigs get fat. We've been
[5:40:05] negotiating. Pigs get fat, hogs
[5:40:06] get slaughtered. This crosses
[5:40:08] the hog line to me. The deal is
[5:40:10] on the table. The deal has been
[5:40:13] worked out very diligently by
[5:40:15] staff, and we oughta just and
[5:40:18] respect that staff work and
[5:40:19] recognize an enormous benefit to
[5:40:21] all of the people of orange
[5:40:27] county as it stands and the
[5:40:30] entire project grinds to a halt
[5:40:32] we perhaps start over at ground
[5:40:35] zero if we try to negotiate from
[5:40:38] the dais and burden this project
[5:40:41] as is proposed. So I will move
[5:40:43] the recommended action as set
[5:40:45] forth in our agenda by staff.
[5:40:48] Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN..
[5:40:49] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[5:40:50] right. I'm not sure, do we have
[5:40:53] a motion from vice-chair foley
[5:40:56] first? Was that a motion? So
[5:40:58] we have two motions at moment.
[5:41:01] And I would simply express one
[5:41:02] concern --
[5:41:03] >>don wagner: point of order,
[5:41:04] MR. CHAIRMAN, review the tape.
[5:41:06] What she said is she would like
[5:41:08] to add these to the motion. She
[5:41:10] didn't make a motion with
[5:41:10] these.
[5:41:11] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: my
[5:41:13] motion at the staff recommended
[5:41:13] action
[5:41:14] >>don wagner: there was no such
[5:41:16] motion and certainly no such
[5:41:16] second.
[5:41:17] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[5:41:18] that's what I said. There might
[5:41:19] not have been the second but
[5:41:21] definitely made the motion.
[5:41:22] >>chair, doug chaffee: I
[5:41:24] interpreted that as a motion,
[5:41:25] actually, by the vice-chair. In
[5:41:29] any case, that's a dilemma at
[5:41:31] the moment. So when I looked at
[5:41:36] it, I was concerned with demoing
[5:41:37] buildings and then the people
[5:41:39] who work there will not have a
[5:41:40] play-offs employment anymore.
[5:41:42] So I was hoping we would
[5:41:45] consider calling worker
[5:41:46] retention policies similar to
[5:41:48] what we have at our airport when
[5:41:50] some of the demo was going on
[5:41:51] and stuff and it essentially
[5:41:53] gives the workers kind of a
[5:41:57] right to come back. So when the
[5:41:59] project is finished, they have
[5:42:00] the first opportunity to be back
[5:42:06] on the staff. And so at this
[5:42:07] point, neither motion has a
[5:42:09] second. I will not sport
[5:42:11] vice-chair's addition of these
[5:42:13] things so late. I'm not sure
[5:42:15] how they fit into the project.
[5:42:19] That's where I'm at. Supervisor
[5:42:19] sarmiento?
[5:42:21] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,
[5:42:22] MR. Chair. Let me just, you
[5:42:25] know, start by thanking matt and
[5:42:29] soy la from our ceo -- county's
[5:42:35] ceo team for a lot of work on
[5:42:37] this. I know it's been
[5:42:38] difficult to get to this point
[5:42:39] and you had to coordinate work
[5:42:41] with a lot of different
[5:42:42] opinions. This is a very
[5:42:43] special place so, you know, it
[5:42:46] merits that time and it merits
[5:42:48] that work. But I want to be
[5:42:50] clear that I'm very supportive
[5:42:52] of the redevelopment of dana
[5:42:54] point harbor and the opportunity
[5:42:57] to bring these two new hotels
[5:43:00] that will create a long-term
[5:43:01] economic benefit and revenue not
[5:43:03] just to one district, but to the
[5:43:06] entire county. This is a county
[5:43:11] asset. So to the extent that we
[5:43:13] proceed that way, you know, I'm
[5:43:15] fully supportive. However, I do
[5:43:17] have some concerns with the
[5:43:21] timing, with the ability for us
[5:43:25] to deliberate thoughtfully.
[5:43:26] Somebody want to set my comments
[5:43:29] to music. But it's okay. I
[5:43:32] don't speak in rhythm. But we
[5:43:35] did receive the asr and the
[5:43:39] lease documents late friday
[5:43:41] afternoon and it does comply
[5:43:43] with the 72-hour rule. That
[5:43:46] doesn't mean it's a good notice.
[5:43:47] It just means it's a technical
[5:43:49] notice. And then last night,
[5:43:52] the evening before -- with, last
[5:43:54] night, before this meeting, we
[5:43:55] received some edits from the
[5:43:58] developer for the mou and the
[5:44:02] lease agreement. I understand
[5:44:04] the developer's position.
[5:44:05] Everything is always time
[5:44:07] sengtive. Time is money when it
[5:44:11] comes to trying to underwrite,
[5:44:12] you know, a project like this.
[5:44:15] I don't think anybody's going
[5:44:18] anywhere. This is an important
[5:44:20] development project. But I do
[5:44:21] believe we need to address some
[5:44:23] outstanding items before we take
[5:44:25] action. I just saw the language
[5:44:27] that was proposed by supervisor
[5:44:29] foley. I, you know, just at a
[5:44:32] glance, at a perusal, those are
[5:44:34] things that I can support, but
[5:44:35] that doesn't mean those are
[5:44:36] things that we should just
[5:44:38] tackle from up here. And I
[5:44:39] remember, it's funny, we had a
[5:44:40] letter from the commission to
[5:44:42] address homelessness, and I
[5:44:44] remember, you know, some of the
[5:44:45] supervisors saying that they
[5:44:47] were outraged to have a letter
[5:44:47] before them because it was
[5:44:48] delivered the night before, and
[5:44:50] here we are with red line
[5:44:52] versions of MOUs and lease
[5:44:55] agreements, and it's good to go.
[5:44:57] So I -- you know, I had think
[5:44:58] that we should take the same
[5:45:01] responsibility to make sure that
[5:45:03] we thoroughly look at these, and
[5:45:06] we've had an agenda that's had
[5:45:08] over 100 items on it with our
[5:45:10] budget. And so to be thoughtful
[5:45:11] about tackling something as
[5:45:14] immense as this that's going to
[5:45:17] incumber us and have us in this
[5:45:19] relationship for 66 years is
[5:45:20] something that I think we need
[5:45:24] more time on. So I know that
[5:45:28] the cdp permit requires ej
[5:45:30] programs for the underserved
[5:45:30] youth, which is something very
[5:45:31] important to me. I would like
[5:45:33] to see that language also in the
[5:45:36] lease so that youth from title 1
[5:45:37] schools from the entire county
[5:45:38] can benefit from experiencing
[5:45:41] this asset. So MR. Miller, if
[5:45:44] you can, just, you know, answer
[5:45:46] this question from where you're
[5:45:47] at or maybe come up to the
[5:46:00] podium, it's very short. But he
[5:46:08] just want to ask, can you
[5:46:09] explain...
[5:46:11] It's something that is so
[5:46:15] critical at this point that we
[5:46:19] need that we look at red line
[5:46:20] versions. What are your
[5:46:21] thoughts on that?
[5:46:23] >>speaker: the time sensitivity
[5:46:25] and the fact that we brought
[5:47:09] [Pause in captioning]
[5:47:11] After we've had a chance to live
[5:47:12] with the red line versions and
[5:47:13] some of the amendment actions
[5:47:15] here. And again, some of my
[5:47:16] colleagues mentioned receiving
[5:47:18] this at the last moment, that's
[5:47:20] not the most thoughtful and
[5:47:21] intelligent way to proceed up
[5:47:22] here, especially with something
[5:47:25] as complicated as and involved
[5:47:28] and profound as this. So
[5:47:29] MR. Chair, I'll make a third
[5:47:31] motion because the first tbro
[5:47:32] didn't get a second, to continue
[5:47:33] this item so we can have a
[5:47:35] chance to understand it better
[5:47:39] and come back with a much better
[5:47:40] thoughtful recommended action on
[5:47:48] all of thee items.
[5:47:50] >>janet nguyen: I'm going to
[5:47:51] second supervisor wagner's
[5:47:53] motion. I guess what I want to
[5:47:57] see though is more of a -- maybe
[5:47:59] the developer can tell us why
[5:48:01] it's urgent, why do you need it
[5:48:03] today? Is it a loan thing? I
[5:48:09] don't know. It would be helpful
[5:48:11] for us to understand the urgency
[5:48:13] of it
[5:48:15] >>speaker: so we are two years
[5:48:16] from the olympics being here in
[5:48:17] southern california. And for us
[5:48:19] to have a chance, that would
[5:48:21] mean we would start demolition
[5:48:23] in AUGUST, which is six weeks
[5:48:28] from now. And get started on
[5:48:30] very complicated projects to
[5:48:32] build. Two years to get those
[5:48:35] built, it's a risk to get done.
[5:48:39] And so one of the hotels sits on
[5:48:41] a podium which is a parking
[5:48:42] structure and then we build the
[5:48:44] building on top of that. So
[5:48:45] complicated project but we
[5:48:51] are -- so to lose 60 days is
[5:48:55] really worrisome in getting it
[5:48:55] done
[5:48:56] >>janet nguyen: so what I'm
[5:48:58] hearing then is that if we don't
[5:49:01] approve today, with very to wait
[5:49:01] until AUGUST because the next
[5:49:07] board meeting is in AUGUST. At
[5:49:08] least you have that timeframe
[5:49:10] from now to AUGUST to hit the
[5:49:12] ground running to start
[5:49:14] demolition in AUGUST versus
[5:49:14] waiting another two more months
[5:49:17] from AUGUST, right
[5:49:18] >>speaker: so the schedule
[5:49:20] presented -- we presented a
[5:49:21] detailed schedule to staff, and
[5:49:23] by the way, staff has been
[5:49:24] tremendous to work with. But it
[5:49:27] shows there's a -- we have to
[5:49:28] have a loan in place first. We
[5:49:31] can't get a loan first without
[5:49:32] understanding what the terms of
[5:49:34] the lease are. And so once
[5:49:36] the -- once we know what our
[5:49:42] lease is, then we request close
[5:49:44] our loan. Essentially this
[5:49:47] would be a 60-day delay on a
[5:49:49] schedule that's already very
[5:49:50] tight.
[5:49:53] >>janet nguyen: thank you. I
[5:49:56] agree with some of what my
[5:49:57] colleagues mentioned, this is an
[5:49:59] asset to the county and not just
[5:50:00] a particular district. When I
[5:50:02] was here previously this was the
[5:50:04] discussion of this item. It was
[5:50:06] very, very contentious back
[5:50:07] then, as well. It sounds like
[5:50:22] it is still today. And so I do
[5:50:23] appreciate the mayor spending
[5:50:25] all day with us. So if we don't
[5:50:26] have an action today, this will
[5:50:28] then now look at a four-month
[5:50:30] delay versus just a two-month
[5:50:31] delay because of the 60 days,
[5:50:33] having to get their loans,
[5:50:34] having to do the demo and
[5:50:40] et cetera. So I think there is
[5:50:42] that urgency. If we don't care
[5:50:44] for the olympics, then, you
[5:50:45] know, that's something else. I
[5:50:46] know we have two of our
[5:50:47] colleagues here, supervisor
[5:50:49] foley and sarmiento both on the
[5:50:51] olympics committee.
[5:50:52] . So if
[5:50:54] that's the case, then that
[5:50:56] throws it out and there's no
[5:50:58] urgency then. But what I think,
[5:50:59] though, it sounds like we have
[5:51:00] been looking at the olympics.
[5:51:03] We have been trying to
[5:51:04] accommodate and work with the
[5:51:09] different public agency, was
[5:51:10] octa, different cities, you
[5:51:10] know, the business community,
[5:51:12] you name it.
[5:51:13] The tourism community as well.
[5:51:16] So I think, you know, if we can
[5:51:18] get this complushed in 24
[5:51:21] months, I think would be
[5:51:22] valuable -- if we can get it
[5:51:23] accomplished in 24 months. I do
[5:51:27] have concern though, while I
[5:51:31] appreciate and the additional
[5:51:32] information or additional
[5:51:34] recommendation by supervisor
[5:51:35] foley, I think -- it's hard
[5:51:36] because this is so complex, it's
[5:51:38] very difficult for me to have
[5:51:42] to, you know, dive through into
[5:51:45] each of these and whether it
[5:51:47] works or doesn't work and I want
[5:51:48] to hear from real estate staff
[5:51:50] as well. So I cannot support
[5:51:50] something that's just been
[5:51:52] brought to us now. And so
[5:51:54] that's why I move forward in
[5:51:58] supporting supervisor wagner's
[5:52:01] proposal of the current
[5:52:02] recommendation by staff.
[5:52:03] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[5:52:06] you. I will second supervisor
[5:52:08] sarmiento's motion. But first
[5:52:10] we'll hear from supervisor
[5:52:13] wagner and I think we do need a
[5:52:21] roll call. This is the motion
[5:52:24] to accept the staff report
[5:52:25] without change
[5:52:35] [Calling roll]
[5:52:35] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[5:52:37] supervisor wagner.
[5:52:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: we're
[5:52:39] voting.
[5:52:39] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: but I
[5:52:49] need to ask him a question.
[5:52:52] Motion requires 4/5ths. It does
[5:52:53] not have it. I'd like to move
[5:52:55] on to the motion proposed by
[5:52:59] supervisor sarmiento,. This is
[5:53:01] a 66-year lease. We want it to
[5:53:03] be good for a long time. I'm
[5:53:04] not really concerned if it's
[5:53:05] ready to the olympics. That
[5:53:06] doesn't really matter to me
[5:53:07] because of the quality I want to
[5:53:10] see put in it, I don't want it
[5:53:11] rushed. I want it to be good
[5:53:16] for all 66 years of that lease.
[5:53:18] So I think all of these things
[5:53:19] being literally dumped on us
[5:53:21] last minute, I don't know where
[5:53:23] to go with some of these things.
[5:53:24] I don't understand the need for
[5:53:25] some of them or whether they are
[5:53:27] appropriate or not, but I had
[5:53:28] like some analysis of it before
[5:53:30] we have the vote. So we do have
[5:53:33] a motion to continue. I do not
[5:53:37] believe that requires a 4/5th
[5:53:47] vote.. Supervisor foley.
[5:53:48] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: look,
[5:53:50] I could have just made these
[5:53:52] additions verbally from the dais
[5:53:54] but I thought it would be easier
[5:53:55] to read it and that's I wrote it
[5:54:00] up. But the reason why I
[5:54:01] brought forward the two items
[5:54:03] that were late to the workforce
[5:54:08] is because this came to my
[5:54:10] attention yesterday that we
[5:54:11] didn't have a plan for the
[5:54:13] workers that are working at the
[5:54:16] marina. And so that caused me
[5:54:18] some quick concern. That's why
[5:54:21] I thought we could put something
[5:54:22] together to make sure that we've
[5:54:23] directed staff to work on that.
[5:54:25] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[5:54:27] Well, I have that same concern,
[5:54:31] and I asked for the airport
[5:54:33] worker retention policy, which
[5:54:34] we have there. And I think that
[5:54:35] kind of would answer that
[5:54:37] concern. But that needs to be
[5:54:47] studied and considered as well.
[5:54:47] .
[5:54:49] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: the
[5:54:50] first item that I passed out is
[5:54:52] essentially a mirror of what we
[5:54:52] have.
[5:54:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, I'm
[5:54:53] going to.
[5:54:55] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: can I
[5:54:57] comment, MR. CHAIRMAN, please?
[5:54:58] Well, I mean, this is an
[5:54:59] important project for the
[5:55:01] county. And we have been.
[5:55:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: another
[5:55:03] reason for continuing it to get
[5:55:04] it done correctly.
[5:55:05] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: so
[5:55:06] I'm going to ask because we
[5:55:08] don't have a date for the
[5:55:09] continuance. I know we talked
[5:55:11] about having potentially a
[5:55:17] meeting in JULY. So is there a
[5:55:19] way, MR. Page, that we could
[5:55:20] continue it and if we do have a
[5:55:22] meeting in JULY, that we
[5:55:23] continue it to JULY?
[5:55:24] >>leon page: well, in terms of
[5:55:27] can the board call for a special
[5:55:30] meeting, yes. The mean, the
[5:55:32] brown act allows the CHAIRMAN To
[5:55:33] call a special meeting anytime
[5:55:38] 24 hours notice and the board
[5:55:43] could call a special meeting.
[5:55:43] Of
[5:55:44] >>vincente sarmiento: so
[5:55:46] MR. Page, just to make my motion
[5:55:47] clear, not just a simple
[5:55:49] continuance but a continuance to
[5:55:51] the next meeting or do I have to
[5:55:53] speaks too next special meeting
[5:55:55] or regularly-scheduled meeting?
[5:55:56] >>leon page: well, as of right
[5:55:58] now, there's no special meeting
[5:55:59] on calendar. I suppose you
[5:56:01] could include that with your
[5:56:02] motion. You could identify a
[5:56:05] date, although, I've heard today
[5:56:08] that -- it's complicated
[5:56:09] schedules
[5:56:09] >>vincente sarmiento: I'm trying
[5:56:10] to incorporate what the
[5:56:11] vice-chair is saying. In the
[5:56:13] event that we have a special
[5:56:15] meeting for it to -- for this
[5:56:16] item to be continued to that
[5:56:23] date that's uncertain at this
[5:56:23] point.
[5:56:24] >>leon page: it's really the
[5:56:26] next available meeting, whenever
[5:56:28] that MAY be.
[5:56:29] >>vincente sarmiento: all right.
[5:56:30] I will make sure I clarify my
[5:56:32] motion to say I would like to
[5:56:35] continue this item to the next
[5:56:38] available meeting, board of
[5:56:39] supervisors meeting.
[5:56:40] >>chair, doug chaffee: I will
[5:56:47] accept that clarification.
[5:56:49] MADAM Clerk, will you call the
[5:56:50] roll...
[5:56:58] [Calling roll]
[5:57:00] >>chair, doug chaffee: that
[5:57:01] motion carries. I'm not sure
[5:57:06] about a special meeting. I MAY
[5:57:08] be not around, and I know
[5:57:09] supervisor wagner has some
[5:57:11] concerns with some surgery. So
[5:57:14] with that, we continue this
[5:57:20] item, and so now let's go on to
[5:57:32] supplement
[5:57:33] >>clerk, robin stieler: s94cc.
[5:57:33] Under chair chaffee-orange
[5:57:34] county workforce development
[5:57:35] board-reappoint and confirm
[5:57:36] continued membership of andrew
[5:57:36] fahmy, brea, for term concurrent
[5:57:37] with supervisor's term of
[5:57:39] office
[5:57:43] we have no requests to speak on
[5:57:52] s94cc. This is my item. Okay.
[5:57:54] I'll move it.
[5:58:01] >>vincente sarmiento: second.
[5:58:02] There will be no objection.
[5:58:09] That item is approved. I think
[5:58:11] it's public comments.
[5:58:11] >>clerk, robin stieler: five
[5:58:14] public hearing items. 95 will
[5:58:15] be the first one..
[5:58:16] >>chair, doug chaffee: that goes
[5:58:18] to item 95, please.
[5:58:19] >>clerk, robin stieler: 95.
[5:58:20] Under chair chaffee and
[5:58:20] supervisor sarmiento-public
[5:58:21] hearing to consider first
[5:58:21] reading of "
[5:58:23] an ordinance of the
[5:58:24] county of orange, california,
[5:58:25] amending division 1 of title 1,
[5:58:26] section 1-1-83, of the codified
[5:58:27] ordinances of the county of
[5:58:27] orange"
[5:58:27] regarding full-cost
[5:58:28] recovery for lobbyist
[5:58:29] registration and renewal fees;
[5:58:29] set second reading and adoption
[5:58:30] for 8/11/26, 9:30 A.M.; and
[5:58:31] adopt resolution approving
[5:58:32] revised county lobbyist
[5:58:33] registration filing and renewal
[5:58:50] fees and making related findings
[5:58:50] .
[5:58:51] >>chair, doug chaffee: this is a
[5:58:53] public hearing. We're going to
[5:58:55] open the public hearing. MADAM
[5:58:56] Clerk, do we have any people who
[5:58:58] wish to speak on this item
[5:58:59] >>clerk, robin stieler: no. We
[5:59:00] do not.
[5:59:01] >>chair, doug chaffee: so I'm
[5:59:02] going to close the public
[5:59:03] hearing and bring it back to the
[5:59:07] board for consideration. I'm
[5:59:08] going to move the item
[5:59:10] >>vincente sarmiento: second.
[5:59:10] >>chair, doug chaffee: any
[5:59:13] objection to it? I see none.
[5:59:15] So the item is approved. And
[5:59:19] this is going to come back
[5:59:20] again, consider the matter. So
[5:59:22] the ordinance might actually be
[5:59:27] adopted. Move on to public
[5:59:30] hearing item 96.
[5:59:30] >>clerk, robin stieler: 96.
[5:59:31] Under sheriff-coroner-public
[5:59:31] hearing to consider adopting
[5:59:32] resolution approving orange
[5:59:33] county uniform parking penalty
[5:59:34] schedule of 2026 for
[5:59:34] unincorporated areas and
[5:59:35] county-owned facilities,
[5:59:36] effective 7/1/26; and
[5:59:49] superseding resolution 23-061
[5:59:49] .
[5:59:51] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[5:59:53] This is another public hearing.
[5:59:55] Going to open the public
[5:59:56] hearing, and MADAM Clerk, do we
[5:59:57] have any speakers
[5:59:59] >>clerk, robin stieler: no, we
[5:59:59] do not.
[6:00:00] >>chair, doug chaffee: we have
[6:00:01] none, so I'm going to close the
[6:00:02] public hearing and bring it back
[6:00:08] to this board for consideration.
[6:00:09] It's been moved. I will second
[6:00:13] the item. Any objection? Item
[6:00:15] is approved. All right, we have
[6:00:17] one more public hearing, which
[6:00:20] is item 97. MADAM Clerk...
[6:00:21] >>clerk, robin stieler: 97.
[6:00:22] Under county counsel-public
[6:00:23] hearing to consider second
[6:00:24] reading and adoption of "an
[6:00:24] uncodified ordinance of the
[6:00:25] county of orange approving the
[6:00:25] sheriff'
[6:00:26] s and district
[6:00:26] attorney'
[6:00:27] s military
[6:00:27] equipment use policies and
[6:00:29] repealing uncodified ordinance
[6:00:37] no. 25-013"
[6:00:38] .
[6:00:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going
[6:00:40] to open the public hearing. Are
[6:00:41] there any public comments?
[6:00:42] >>clerk, robin stieler: no, we
[6:00:42] do not
[6:00:44] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going
[6:00:45] to bring it back to the board
[6:00:46] and close the public hearing for
[6:00:48] consideration by the board.
[6:00:51] What's the pleasure of the
[6:00:55] board? Moved is seconded. Any
[6:00:57] objection? All right. Item is
[6:00:59] approved. There's one more
[6:00:59] public hearing
[6:01:01] >>clerk, robin stieler: two
[6:01:01] more
[6:01:04] >>chair, doug chaffee: item 98.
[6:01:05] >>clerk, robin stieler: 98.
[6:01:06] Under oc public works-public
[6:01:06] hearing to consider adopting
[6:01:07] resolution for fy 2025-26 fire
[6:01:08] hazard reduction weed abatement
[6:01:09] cost report by property and
[6:01:10] authorize oc agricultural
[6:01:11] commissioner to reimburse or
[6:01:20] cancel assessments under certain conditions
[6:01:20] .
[6:01:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going
[6:01:22] to open the public hearing.
[6:01:24] MADAM Clerk, do we have any
[6:01:25] public speakers?
[6:01:27] >>clerk, robin stieler: no, we
[6:01:28] do not
[6:01:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'm going
[6:01:30] to close the public hearing and
[6:01:32] bring it back to this board for
[6:01:34] consideration. And it's been
[6:01:36] moved and I will second it. Is
[6:01:38] there any objection to it? Item
[6:01:39] closed. And there's one more
[6:01:42] public hearing item. Getting to
[6:01:45] the end of my binder. 99,
[6:01:45] please.
[6:01:45] >>clerk, robin stieler: 99.
[6:01:46] Under oc public works-public
[6:01:47] hearing to adopt resolution
[6:01:49] adopting map checking fee
[6:01:50] schedule for fys 2026-27,
[6:01:51] 2027-28 and 2028-29 for map
[6:01:52] checking subsidy reduction
[6:01:53] program; rescind resolution no.
[6:01:53] 21-048; and make california
[6:01:54] environmental quality act (Ceqa)
[6:01:55] Exemption findings under ceqa
[6:01:56] guidelines section 15273 and
[6:01:56] public resources code
[6:02:15] 21080(B)(8) And other related findings
[6:02:15] .
[6:02:16] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[6:02:18] you, MADAM Clerk. I'm going to
[6:02:20] open the public hearing. Do we
[6:02:20] have any speakers
[6:02:21] >>clerk, robin stieler: no, we
[6:02:22] do not.
[6:02:22] >>chair, doug chaffee: I'll
[6:02:23] close the public hearing and
[6:02:24] bring it back to the board for
[6:02:26] consideration. MAY I have a
[6:02:29] motion or discussion? I will
[6:02:31] second the item. Any objection?
[6:02:37] The motion is approved. I
[6:02:39] think we're at public comments
[6:02:41] >>leon page: could I make a
[6:02:43] suggestion? The board MAY wish
[6:02:45] to reconsider agenda item 71,
[6:02:46] that's the legislative item.
[6:02:49] There were amendments made today
[6:02:52] to ab2194 and a think a couple
[6:02:52] members are aware of those
[6:02:54] amendments. Again, I raise this
[6:02:56] as an opportunity. If the board
[6:02:58] want to discuss those
[6:02:58] anticipates..
[6:02:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: do we
[6:03:00] have a copy of whatever that
[6:03:03] amendment is? I haven't seen it
[6:03:07] it. Maybe we could come back to
[6:03:08] this after we hear some of the
[6:03:10] public comments when we get
[6:03:12] copies of whatever this is
[6:03:14] >>janet nguyen: on item 99, can
[6:03:16] I record an abstention, please?
[6:03:20] Thank you..
[6:03:21] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[6:03:23] right. What were you saying?
[6:03:25] >>janet nguyen: for item 99, I
[6:03:27] actually wanted to record an
[6:03:28] abstention.
[6:03:29] >>chair, doug chaffee: you want
[6:03:31] an abstention. Okay. That's
[6:03:31] fine
[6:03:32] >>janet nguyen: thank you.
[6:03:33] >>chair, doug chaffee: please
[6:03:34] note for the recorded
[6:03:46] abstention. All right. We'll
[6:04:17] come back -- all right, let's go
[6:04:17] to public comment
[6:04:19] >>clerk, robin stieler: manual
[6:04:22] penned da, john spring and
[6:04:27] patricia weber..
[6:04:28] >>chair, doug chaffee: sir, you
[6:04:30] have 1 minute. Thank you.
[6:04:32] >>speaker: I came here to talk
[6:04:34] primarily about public safety.
[6:04:36] I have a background in coastal
[6:04:38] zone management, which also
[6:04:41] would be of some interest
[6:04:42] because practically everything
[6:04:44] about the olympics deals with
[6:04:46] our amenities along the coastal
[6:04:48] zone. But I'm also very
[6:04:51] concerned about discord and land
[6:04:54] use at the industrial site of
[6:04:56] aerospace where you have
[6:04:58] residential homes within a few
[6:05:01] hundred feet of the most
[6:05:04] dangerous chemicals when they
[6:05:07] are abused by either heat or
[6:05:12] contamination. Now, obviously
[6:05:13] in a few seconds I cannot convey
[6:05:15] all of my knowledge or expertise
[6:05:18] in any of these areas. So my
[6:05:23] suggestion is, if you are really
[6:05:26] interested in what katrina foley
[6:05:31] was talking about and be donald
[6:05:32] wagner and donald chaffee
[6:05:34] regarding the olympics, please
[6:05:40] contact me.
[6:05:41] >>clerk, robin stieler: next
[6:05:43] three speakers are california
[6:05:45] precinct activators, roseanne
[6:05:47] and lisa h. Please come
[6:05:47] forward
[6:05:48] >>speaker: good afternoon, board
[6:05:54] of supervisors. Earlier I
[6:06:04] handed.
[6:06:11] S. The point of clarity
[6:06:13] notice has already been given to
[6:06:14] the 50 state governors, to the
[6:06:15] PRESIDENT Of the united states,
[6:06:16] to the supreme court and united
[6:06:17] states senate and united states
[6:06:20] congress. We are now giving you
[6:06:22] a copy. Take notice, a frequent
[6:06:22] recurrence of fundamental
[6:06:24] principles of the constitution
[6:06:24] is required to maintain free
[6:06:26] government. The main objective
[6:06:27] of government is to protect and
[6:06:29] preserve the people's rights and
[6:06:31] uphold the law of GOD. The
[6:06:32] people establish the public good
[6:06:34] in the original state and united
[6:06:36] states constitutions are founded
[6:06:38] upon christian principles,
[6:06:41] common law and maxims of law.
[6:06:42] Wherein the constitution should
[6:06:44] the people grant authority for
[6:06:47] islam and shereeial law to
[6:06:47] conquer our form of government
[6:06:50] and society. Islam is sharia
[6:06:51] law and repugnant to the
[6:06:52] founding precepts and principles
[6:06:54] of american society
[6:06:56] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[6:07:14] you.
[6:07:17] >>speaker: reading a letter from
[6:07:20] robert paul reston governor pro
[6:07:22] tem new california state, dear
[6:07:24] supervisors, registrar and
[6:07:25] sheriff, the purpose this notice
[6:07:27] is to ask for an opportunity to
[6:07:28] address the entire board and/or
[6:07:32] to present a claim consenting
[6:07:34] the certification -- contesting
[6:07:35] the certification of any
[6:07:37] election results at the next
[6:07:39] regularly scheduled meeting at
[6:07:40] board of supervisors. I am
[6:07:43] requesting the board direct the
[6:07:44] registrar of voters to respond
[6:07:46] to the request for information
[6:07:47] below pippin vote your attention
[6:07:51] to election code section 16100d,
[6:07:53] a lector of a county, stick or
[6:07:55] of any political subdivision of
[6:07:58] either MAY contest any election
[6:07:59] held therein to any of the
[6:08:01] following causes, d, that
[6:08:03] illegal votes were cast. The
[6:08:05] factual basis of my request is
[6:08:06] that it is common knowledge that
[6:08:08] there has been a flood of
[6:08:10] illegal aliens into the state of
[6:08:11] california's counties, cities,
[6:08:12] and school districts
[6:08:13] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[6:08:14] you, ma'am. Your time is up.
[6:08:19] Thank you.
[6:08:20] >>speaker: those non-citizens
[6:08:23] have apparently been allowed to
[6:08:24] register with the department of
[6:08:25] motor vehicles. With that
[6:08:26] registration, these non-citizens
[6:08:28] have been provided with voter
[6:08:29] registration and election
[6:08:31] ballots. It is also common
[6:08:32] knowledge that investigative
[6:08:33] reporters have discovered that
[6:08:37] some of the illegal aliens
[6:08:39] non-citizens have in fact voted
[6:08:40] providing these non-citizen
[6:08:42] voter registration and election
[6:08:44] ballots gives you the members of
[6:08:44] the board of supervisors and you
[6:08:46] the registrar of voters the
[6:08:47] legal basis to set aside the
[6:08:49] election and deny the
[6:08:50] certification due to the number
[6:08:53] of illegal voters as set forth
[6:08:57] in california election code
[6:09:02] 16100 specifically section d.
[6:09:05] There's inchon -- these inchon
[6:09:08] truthable facts give you not
[6:09:09] only the right but the
[6:09:10] obligation to investigate voter
[6:09:12] fraud. If the board of
[6:09:15] registrar certifies the
[6:09:15] election, they will be
[6:09:17] committing a felony. To the
[6:09:19] board and the registrar, would
[6:09:21] you please provide me with the
[6:09:22] person who served you the
[6:09:22] letter.
[6:09:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[6:09:24] you, ma'am
[6:09:29] >>speaker: thank you.
[6:09:30] >>clerk, robin stieler: last
[6:09:32] speaker is alajandra.
[6:09:35] >>speaker: supervisors, I
[6:09:37] respectfully urge to you vote no
[6:09:44] on item s94t and stop funding
[6:09:45] $250k to plan the parenthood,
[6:09:47] the nation's largest abortion
[6:09:49] provider. Former planned
[6:09:50] patienthood director abby
[6:09:51] johnson has publically testified
[6:09:54] that funds directed to planned
[6:09:55] parenthood help support its
[6:09:57] abortion practices. Abortion
[6:10:01] intentionally ends the life of a
[6:10:02] developing human beings.
[6:10:04] Approximately 17,000 unborn
[6:10:07] babies here in orange county are
[6:10:07] killed annually
[6:10:09] . Teen pregnancy is the no the
[6:10:12] only risk at hand. Nearly half
[6:10:14] of newly sexually transmitted
[6:10:16] infections occur among young
[6:10:19] people ages 15 to 24. Taxpayer
[6:10:23] dollars should also support
[6:10:24] abstinence-centered education
[6:10:26] programs that encourage teens to
[6:10:28] delay sexual activity, build
[6:10:30] self respect, and strengthen
[6:10:33] family. Do not promote sexual
[6:10:35] activity by providing that
[6:10:36] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[6:10:37] you, ma'am
[6:10:37] >>speaker: thank you.
[6:10:39] >>clerk, robin stieler: no
[6:10:40] further speakers.
[6:10:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[6:10:44] right. And with that we do have
[6:10:48] a copy now, it's a lot to read.
[6:10:50] But let me finish with our other
[6:10:51] board commitments for the day,
[6:10:52] and then we can come back at
[6:10:54] very end and talk about this if
[6:10:58] we need to. I'd particularly
[6:11:00] like to know if there's any
[6:11:02] comments from supervisor
[6:11:06] sarmiento and nguyen now that
[6:11:08] we've had a chance to study it.
[6:11:10] Now we come to board comments,
[6:11:12] if there are any. Do we have
[6:11:13] any board members that would
[6:11:14] like to comment on anything at
[6:11:21] this point? Anyone?
[6:11:23] >>don wagner: a couple
[6:11:24] adjournment memories
[6:11:26] >>vincente sarmiento: I have an
[6:11:29] adjournment now as well.
[6:11:33] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[6:11:33] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
[6:11:36] think we should do this item
[6:11:37] before we dot adjournments.
[6:11:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, we
[6:11:39] can do that. That's fine. But
[6:11:42] let me make sure there are no
[6:11:44] board comments first.. I
[6:11:46] didn't see any lights on. I'll
[6:11:48] pass on mine. I will not
[6:11:52] disrupt the flow. All right.
[6:11:56] MADAM Ceo, your very last
[6:11:57] chance
[6:11:58] >>clerk, robin stieler: I
[6:11:59] believe supervisor nguyen has
[6:11:59] comments
[6:12:00] >>chair, doug chaffee: I don't
[6:12:01] have a light on here
[6:12:03] >>janet nguyen: I'm sorry. Can
[6:12:05] I MAY being some board
[6:12:06] comments.
[6:12:06] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[6:12:08] right. Then maybe I'll join
[6:12:08] later
[6:12:09] >>janet nguyen: I can do later,
[6:12:10] whatever you want me to.
[6:12:12] >>chair, doug chaffee: well, I
[6:12:16] thought we do do any -- we would
[6:12:19] do any comments now and then we
[6:12:22] will come if we can to the re
[6:12:23] revised bill, talk about that,
[6:12:24] if you guys have had a chance to
[6:12:27] look at it, and then we'll go to
[6:12:28] the adjournments if we want to,
[6:12:29] if that's all right. So if you
[6:12:32] have comments you'd like to
[6:12:32] make, go ahead
[6:12:34] >>janet nguyen: I do,
[6:12:35] MR. CHAIRMAN, thank you. Just a
[6:12:38] fews things. One, you know, I
[6:12:40] just want to -- I know it's hard
[6:12:42] to believe but it's been a month
[6:12:45] since the incident of the -- the
[6:12:46] incident in garden grove and
[6:12:48] everything has remained
[6:12:49] stabilized at the plant, and we
[6:12:52] are waiting for gkn to obtain
[6:12:54] the equipment to remove mma for
[6:12:55] the two tanks not at risk of
[6:12:57] leaking. So far no removal date
[6:12:59] has been identified. I want
[6:13:01] just to thank MADAM Ceo and hca
[6:13:04] for continuously, you know,
[6:13:07] gives the update on this issue
[6:13:08] and continue to work with the
[6:13:10] city of garden grove and be
[6:13:12] present there at their council
[6:13:13] meetings when asked to give the
[6:13:19] update. I also -- last time I
[6:13:24] did not thank enough folks. So
[6:13:26] we got a full list. I hope I
[6:13:28] didn't MISS Anybody. But I want
[6:13:30] to, again, you know, be sure to
[6:13:33] thank the los alamitos racetrack
[6:13:35] for allowing us to use their
[6:13:36] parking lot for the commanding
[6:13:38] center. Ocfa, city of garden
[6:13:40] grove, the police department,
[6:13:42] health care agency, sheriff,
[6:13:44] ocea, aqmd, you know, california
[6:13:46] office emergency services, all
[6:13:48] the county staff, the management
[6:13:50] staff, everybody, uc irvine
[6:13:51] health, there's also some
[6:13:54] businesses that came out and
[6:13:55] assisted as well. I wanted to
[6:13:56] just identify them as well, and
[6:13:59] this is just one of the shorter
[6:14:01] lists. This is not completely
[6:14:03] full. We're still getting more
[6:14:04] folks letting us know who else
[6:14:07] was there to assist. Foot long
[6:14:10] coffee and tea, bow and
[6:14:13] baguette, blue restaurant lanon
[6:14:19] kitchen. Smile again, twin fat
[6:14:24] supermarket. Faux v1. We
[6:14:25] appreciate everyone coming out
[6:14:27] and bringing food and place to
[6:14:29] to our command center. We
[6:14:30] appreciate you doing it without
[6:14:32] us even asking. And then the
[6:14:35] next one, since we won't be here
[6:14:36] until AUGUST, JULY 4th is
[6:14:38] always an exciting time
[6:14:41] in huntington beach and we have
[6:14:42] the largest parade west of the
[6:14:43] mississippi. Obviously as
[6:14:45] mentioned, this year will be the
[6:14:48] biggest ever with a three-day
[6:14:50] celebration in addition to
[6:14:52] america's semiquincentennial.
[6:14:57] it's also huntington's beach
[6:15:00] 102 -- 122th fourth of JULY
[6:15:02] parade. The fun starts on
[6:15:04] JULY 3rd at noon with live
[6:15:05] music at the pier lasting into
[6:15:07] the night. On the 4th after
[6:15:08] the parade, live music will
[6:15:10] start and last until 8:00 P.M.
[6:15:11] With the city's biggest block
[6:15:13] party ever on main street.
[6:15:16] Homeowners can enter a house
[6:15:17] decorating contests. There will
[6:15:18] also be a 5k run in the
[6:15:20] morning and fireworks starting
[6:15:23] at 9:00 P.M.. More music --
[6:15:24] more live music is scheduled on
[6:15:26] the 5th. Be warned that it
[6:15:28] will be a very busy, busy
[6:15:30] downtown. So parking is going
[6:15:33] to be extremely difficult. So I
[6:15:35] would encourage people to
[6:15:39] ride-share or to please plan
[6:15:41] accordingly. Also I wanted to
[6:15:43] draw attention to a worthwhile
[6:15:45] program that I've supported,
[6:15:48] meta makes ray ban smart glasses
[6:15:49] for veterans who are visually
[6:15:51] impaired or blind and gives them
[6:15:53] away for free. It was recently
[6:15:55] announced last week the glasses
[6:15:57] use ai to speak to the
[6:16:01] individual who's wearing it and
[6:16:05] then can describe what is in
[6:16:07] their line of site. I've asked
[6:16:10] the county veterans service
[6:16:12] offices to please assist our
[6:16:13] local blind veterans in
[6:16:17] obtaining these glasses, any
[6:16:18] visually-impaired veteran is
[6:16:20] eligible. The blind veterans
[6:16:22] association is a distributor and
[6:16:23] will train veterans on how to
[6:16:26] use these glasses. They have a
[6:16:28] rehab center at our closest V.A.
[6:16:30] Hospital, which is in the city
[6:16:31] of long beach, and the
[6:16:33] association also comes to our
[6:16:35] county's veterans office once a
[6:16:36] month. So to get these class
[6:16:38] glasses, the veterans should
[6:16:40] register for free at the
[6:16:43] association's website at bva.Org
[6:16:49] or please call them at
[6:16:57] 562-826-8015. The glasses will
[6:16:58] be shipped to the veteran and
[6:17:00] they can get zoom training or go
[6:17:03] to the office to get training in
[6:17:04] person. This is a great
[6:17:06] opportunity, and we take our
[6:17:08] eyesight for granted. And I
[6:17:09] can't imagine not being able to
[6:17:11] see. So I want to do all I can
[6:17:12] to get the word out about this
[6:17:15] free life-changing invention.
[6:17:18] And so with that, MR. CHAIRMAN,
[6:17:29] thank you.
[6:17:30] >>vincente sarmiento: I just
[6:17:31] want to let everybody know as we
[6:17:33] come to the end of JUNE, I want
[6:17:35] to say a few words about lgbtq
[6:17:37] pride month. Each JUNE we
[6:17:40] celebrate pride month and honor
[6:17:41] contributions of the community
[6:17:42] and the ongoing fight for
[6:17:44] equality. Pride traces its
[6:17:46] roots to the stonewall uprising
[6:17:49] in JUNE, 1969 when legion people
[6:17:51] in new york city stood up
[6:17:52] against harassment and descrim
[6:17:54] nation in a defining moment for
[6:17:56] the movement. Their courage
[6:17:57] galvanized generations of
[6:17:58] advocacy and progress that
[6:18:00] continue today. Even as we
[6:18:01] celebrate, we cannot forget that
[6:18:03] pride began as a protest. It
[6:18:05] was an act of resistance against
[6:18:07] violence and justice and
[6:18:08] systematic oppression. It is
[6:18:10] especially important for us to
[6:18:11] remember the origins of pride
[6:18:13] this year in the face of renewed
[6:18:15] challenges and in a national
[6:18:17] political climate where some
[6:18:19] seek to roll back the progress
[6:18:20] that's been made and the
[6:18:21] community continues to persevere
[6:18:23] and lead with strength,
[6:18:25] resilience and love but also
[6:18:26] with fear because of all of the
[6:18:28] pressure. As the father of a
[6:18:31] gay son, I always worry when my
[6:18:33] son is away from me because I
[6:18:36] know there are still people that
[6:18:38] misunderstand, judge, and become
[6:18:40] hostile to folks that are -- you
[6:18:41] know, that love differently. I
[6:18:43] just want to thank all of those
[6:18:44] who advocate for justice,
[6:18:46] inclusion, and dignity for all.
[6:18:48] Your voices matter. And --
[6:18:50] then, and as ever, we continue
[6:18:51] the fight for inclusion, support
[6:18:54] the rights of all people to live
[6:18:55] openly, be respected for who
[6:18:57] they are and thrive in our
[6:18:58] county. Thank you, MR. Chair.
[6:18:58] .
[6:18:59] >>chair, doug chaffee: well,
[6:19:03] thank you. If I MAY make a few
[6:19:05] remarks. Our last and eighth
[6:19:07] kindness award ceremony will be
[6:19:13] held on NOVEMBER 13.
[6:19:14] NOVEMBER 13 is observed
[6:19:15] internationally as world
[6:19:17] kindness day. That's why we
[6:19:18] hold our kindness awards on that
[6:19:20] date. We're looking to select
[6:19:22] people from my district, any one
[6:19:26] of the seven cities, that would
[6:19:29] like to represent their city.
[6:19:31] We can hold them out as examples
[6:19:33] of kindness and community
[6:19:35] service for others to emulate.
[6:19:37] So nominations will be accepted
[6:19:39] until SEPTEMBER 18. And then
[6:19:45] we'll close them off. The
[6:19:46] future leaders program is
[6:19:48] continuing. They finished their
[6:19:50] third session last saturday.
[6:19:53] They had a tour of the sheriffs
[6:19:55] coroner division. The sheriffs
[6:19:57] coroner division is especially
[6:19:58] interesting. It's kind of the
[6:20:03] best in the state, the county
[6:20:04] center staff for training here
[6:20:05] in orange county. And it's
[6:20:07] followed by a meant health
[6:20:08] awareness presentation by our
[6:20:09] health care agency. We're
[6:20:10] coming up this saturday, we're
[6:20:12] going to do a mock board of
[6:20:14] supervisors meeting where each
[6:20:16] of the students are supposed to
[6:20:19] try to advocate something, then
[6:20:20] write a staff report, and then
[6:20:21] they try to convince others to
[6:20:23] approve it. That will be
[6:20:24] followed by a graduation
[6:20:26] ceremony. And I'm pleased that
[6:20:30] we're able to visit -- previsit
[6:20:32] the cal state fullerton's
[6:20:33] project rebound women's housing
[6:20:34] facility where we're able to
[6:20:38] help with the funding. And then
[6:20:39] I'd like to congratulate the
[6:20:40] orange county commission and
[6:20:41] status of women and girls for
[6:20:43] being selected as a finalist for
[6:20:46] this year's golden hub awards,
[6:20:48] collaborative community
[6:20:49] development innovation category
[6:20:50] for their inaugural report. And
[6:20:52] there will be a ceremony at
[6:20:54] nixon center later this -- I
[6:20:56] think it's thursday night. And
[6:20:59] now, the last chance, ceo, is
[6:21:02] there any comment you'd like to
[6:21:03] make?
[6:21:05] >>michelle aguirre: yeah,
[6:21:07] thanks, chair. So just oh oil
[6:21:10] be fast in the interest of time.
[6:21:11] Just wanted to thank the board
[6:21:15] for your kind words. Earlier
[6:21:18] today, to your chiefs for all of
[6:21:19] their support. I've loved
[6:21:21] working with all of you,
[6:21:23] whenever you are. To the county
[6:21:26] family for your support. For,
[6:21:32] you know, just a thank you to my
[6:21:33] chiefs in the CEOs office.
[6:21:34] You know who you are. My
[6:21:38] partners in crime, kim and liz,
[6:21:40] the newest members of the
[6:21:43] partners in crime, oana, carolyn
[6:21:45] and chris lynn. Thank you for
[6:21:48] everything. Our community be
[6:21:51] partners have appreciated
[6:21:58] working with you. And elle, I
[6:22:00] could not have done this without
[6:22:03] you. Thank you so much. Leon,
[6:22:04] robin, are you part of the
[6:22:10] chiefs' team, right. Our
[6:22:12] biweekly staff meetings, we've
[6:22:13] had a great time. Dom and mel,
[6:22:16] you know who you are, thank you.
[6:22:20] Call me. And I would say
[6:22:22] casey, good luck. You've got my
[6:22:25] number. Just don't call before
[6:22:38] 7:00. Thank you, chair..
[6:22:41] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[6:22:42] you, michelle. Appreciate
[6:22:45] everything you've done. We all
[6:22:47] do, as we expressed earlier.
[6:22:48] And so hopefully you'll enjoy
[6:22:51] saturday, your first day off.
[6:22:55] Okay. Now, let's come back to
[6:23:00] this revised bill. I've
[6:23:02] currently read through it. I'm
[6:23:04] mainly curious about supervisor
[6:23:06] sarmiento and supervisor
[6:23:07] nguyen's review. Go ahead,
[6:23:08] supervisor sarmiento
[6:23:08] >>vincente sarmiento: thank you,
[6:23:11] MR. Chair. I'll be brief. I
[6:23:13] was out of the room when I
[6:23:16] believe MR. Page provided the
[6:23:18] suggestion that we MAY want to
[6:23:19] take a different position than
[6:23:21] what was voted on earlier given
[6:23:23] the revisions to the bill.
[6:23:25] There's some pretty substantive
[6:23:26] and material changes to this
[6:23:27] bill, although, I'm not opposed
[6:23:31] to what I see on perusal. But
[6:23:33] I'm also a lawyer, as you are,
[6:23:35] and I don't know how -- whether
[6:23:37] or not this language has been
[6:23:40] looked at by ledge counsel, by
[6:23:41] our ledgetive team here. I just
[6:23:45] want to make sure that we're --
[6:23:46] or we would be considering
[6:23:48] something that is clear to all
[6:23:51] of us. In section 1, I know
[6:23:54] that I'm really grateful to the
[6:23:57] assemblymember for section 1a
[6:23:59] where he includes the two
[6:24:02] supervisors and an alternate to
[6:24:04] serve on the board of directors,
[6:24:07] and in section c 1 of --
[6:24:08] subsection c 1 of section a, it
[6:24:12] looks like there is a
[6:24:13] continue -- additional language
[6:24:15] for the staggering of terms,
[6:24:17] although, I haven't gone into
[6:24:19] that detail. It's more section
[6:24:22] 2 where there will be, I
[6:24:25] believe, under subsection b, the
[6:24:27] independent, external audit to
[6:24:30] evaluate a number of different
[6:24:32] issue areas. So that's where I
[6:24:33] think we need to have a little
[6:24:35] bit more detail. I think this
[6:24:36] is really encouraging. It's
[6:24:37] down the right path. I think
[6:24:39] that we're going to be
[6:24:41] meeting -- I'm looking at the
[6:24:43] schedule for tomorrow -- at
[6:24:45] 11:00 A.M. With the
[6:24:46] assemblymember, and I believe
[6:24:49] what was discussed here today is
[6:24:51] all done I think in good faith
[6:24:53] to work with the assemblymember
[6:24:55] and these changes. But I do
[6:24:56] think that we need a little bit
[6:24:57] more time. It's abrupt. As
[6:24:59] we've said, we've had over 100
[6:25:01] items and then this gets layered
[6:25:03] on top it for us to make a
[6:25:05] quick, often cuff approval of
[6:25:06] this. I certainly don't feel
[6:25:08] comfortable doing that.
[6:25:12] Although, I see -- I'm very
[6:25:13] encouraged by what I see, I just
[6:25:15] want to make sure that we have
[6:25:16] others that can lend their eyes
[6:25:19] to this and provide us with some
[6:25:22] good background. I suggest we
[6:25:24] hold with our recommendation as
[6:25:27] was made earlier, and am very,
[6:25:29] very, again, optimistic of
[6:25:30] meeting with the assemblymember
[6:25:31] and working through some of
[6:25:33] these additional changes that he
[6:25:35] MAY be recommending. By
[6:25:36] tomorrow, we shrewed a better
[6:25:40] idea of what they MAY mean. So
[6:25:42] that would be my recommendation
[6:25:43] >>chair, doug chaffee: so we
[6:25:46] would withdraw the previous
[6:25:49] recommendation of opposing,
[6:25:50] instead, simply have a holding
[6:25:52] position where we don't really
[6:25:53] take a position until we've had
[6:25:55] a chance to look at it further;
[6:25:56] is that what you're saying
[6:25:58] >>vincente sarmiento: yeah. You
[6:25:59] know, because we've asked a lot
[6:26:01] of others to write letters in
[6:26:02] opposition. Right now it's more
[6:26:05] maybe not taking a position,
[6:26:06] although, we -- because we don't
[6:26:08] know exactly what some of these
[6:26:09] provisions mean
[6:26:12] >>speaker: okay. Supervisor
[6:26:12] wagner?
[6:26:14] >>speaker: wanted to make and
[6:26:16] maybe amplify the point you were
[6:26:19] just making. We took an opposed
[6:26:20] position and it now will reflect
[6:26:22] an opposition to what is a
[6:26:25] different bill. And so it MAY
[6:26:28] require a board action to
[6:26:31] rescind the opposition. That's
[6:26:33] the first thing. And whether we
[6:26:34] go all the way and support this
[6:26:35] or the no, I agree, maybe take
[6:26:37] some more time and more
[6:26:38] analysis, and I'd like to hear
[6:26:41] from our ledge team. But at a
[6:26:42] minimum, I think we ought to
[6:26:44] tell everybody, hey, stand down.
[6:26:46] We are not opposed any longer.
[6:26:48] We're just gonna not take any
[6:26:50] position. But I think that
[6:26:53] requires more board action.
[6:26:54] >>chair, doug chaffee: okay.
[6:26:54] Vice-chair.
[6:26:55] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: yeah,
[6:26:57] I agree with supervisor wagner,
[6:26:59] and I'm -- I also think we need
[6:27:01] to give direction, because if
[6:27:04] two of you are going to be in
[6:27:05] sacramento, you know, lobbying
[6:27:07] on our behalf, we have to have a
[6:27:08] position. I mean, most of
[6:27:11] section 2 deals with audits. It
[6:27:14] seems fine to me. It's all
[6:27:16] about different types of audits
[6:27:19] and what would be required in
[6:27:23] terms of auditing. I don't see
[6:27:26] any obvious reason to oppose it.
[6:27:30] And so I would -- to me, it
[6:27:32] seems like we got what we wanted
[6:27:38] in terms of the staggering, and
[6:27:40] the two board members and the
[6:27:43] alternate are added back, and
[6:27:47] then the rest of it is all about
[6:27:50] conducting -- requiring the
[6:27:52] health authority to conduct an
[6:27:55] independent audit on a variety
[6:27:59] of different matters. And so it
[6:28:00] seems like consistent went what
[6:28:02] we've been doing here anyway.
[6:28:05] We've been doing auditing and
[6:28:07] requiring audits and I don't see
[6:28:12] why would we oppose an audit.
[6:28:15] So I would move to rescind the
[6:28:17] opposed position and to.
[6:28:19] >>chair, doug chaffee: I think
[6:28:21] we already a motion.
[6:28:21] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: no,
[6:28:23] he didn't make a motion
[6:28:23] >>vincente sarmiento: let me go
[6:28:26] ahead and move to remove or
[6:28:29] rescind our opposition. Well,
[6:28:32] as chair of the board at cal
[6:28:33] optima, I would appreciate the
[6:28:34] curtracy to make that motion. I
[6:28:35] believe we're going to be
[6:28:38] meeting with MR. -- the author
[6:28:40] of the bill, and I think we'll
[6:28:41] go ahead and let him clarify
[6:28:42] some of these proceed violations
[6:28:44] with us as well..
[6:28:45] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: but
[6:28:46] we have to take a position
[6:28:47] >>vincente sarmiento: I just
[6:28:48] said that we would.
[6:28:50] >>chair, doug chaffee, no, we
[6:28:52] don't have to take a position
[6:28:52] >>speaker.
[6:28:53] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: we do
[6:28:53] because they're going to lobby
[6:28:55] on behalf of the county. Don't
[6:28:57] we have to have a position.
[6:28:58] >>chair, doug chaffee: their
[6:28:59] position I think is respected as
[6:29:00] members of the caloptima board.
[6:29:02] I don't think we need to give
[6:29:03] them any particular
[6:29:04] instruction.
[6:29:05] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: would
[6:29:06] you apply that to all of us
[6:29:09] >>leon page: if I MAY, first I
[6:29:11] radio suggest the board take a
[6:29:12] vote on whether to reconsider
[6:29:15] the action on item 71.
[6:29:15] Assuming -- and I suppose that
[6:29:17] could be combined with a motion
[6:29:19] to vacate the board's prior
[6:29:20] action. Then once that's
[6:29:21] happened, then there could be a
[6:29:23] new motion as to whether or not
[6:29:25] to give direction or take a
[6:29:25] position.
[6:29:27] But first I think you ought to
[6:29:30] formally reconsider and vacate
[6:29:32] the prior action on 71
[6:29:33] >>janet nguyen: I'll second that
[6:29:33] motion.
[6:29:34] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[6:29:35] right. Supervisor sarmiento
[6:29:41] asked for that curtracy. Oo
[6:29:43] curt -- that courtesy
[6:29:44] >>vincente sarmiento: yes, and
[6:29:47] I'll move that with a position
[6:29:50] to vacate our previously
[6:29:52] position to oppose
[6:29:53] >>chair, doug chaffee: is there
[6:29:55] any opposition to removing the
[6:29:56] previous recommended action?
[6:29:57] Seeing none, that is now gone.
[6:29:59] All right, is there some
[6:30:01] subsequent action we can take?
[6:30:01] Supervisor nguyen?
[6:30:03] >>janet nguyen: MR. CHAIRMAN,
[6:30:06] and I don't oppose auditing. I
[6:30:08] completely support it. However,
[6:30:09] I mean, I'm not a lawyer, and
[6:30:10] this is last minute. I'm just
[6:30:12] reading this, there's a
[6:30:16] provision on here on the
[6:30:20] auditing part with the 4 to
[6:30:22] fifth item. It says whether the
[6:30:24] orange county health authority
[6:30:26] governor structure policy or
[6:30:28] practice it appropriately
[6:30:29] preserve the ability of
[6:30:31] executive staff leadership and
[6:30:33] staff able toedly conduct
[6:30:34] contracting procurement
[6:30:36] functions consistent with the
[6:30:38] governing bodies oversight role.
[6:30:40] And I'm not a lawyer. I'm the
[6:30:41] only one on this board that's
[6:30:45] not. I look at that as almost
[6:30:47] allowing executive staff to
[6:30:48] contract without going before
[6:30:52] the board. And it could be
[6:30:53] interpreted that way. I -- you
[6:30:56] know, I think -- and that's
[6:30:57] where I think there's some of
[6:31:00] these nuances -- because,
[6:31:02] remember, the previous bill that
[6:31:04] was done when I was up there had
[6:31:09] some problems, and these nuances
[6:31:11] as interpreted later could cause
[6:31:14] a big problem. And why that
[6:31:18] would be a concern for me if
[6:31:19] executive staff are allowed to
[6:31:21] just do contract without going
[6:31:22] to the board regardless of the
[6:31:24] amount is not what I've been
[6:31:26] supportive on this board at the
[6:31:29] county. We change our
[6:31:31] procurement process. We changed
[6:31:32] our purchasing to have that
[6:31:34] oversight by the county here,
[6:31:37] and I cannot support something
[6:31:40] that would allow caloptima staff
[6:31:42] to do whatever -- contract
[6:31:44] whatever, regardless of the
[6:31:45] amount, regardless of the
[6:31:48] contract, but that's my, just,
[6:31:50] first take at this. I don't
[6:31:52] know. So I think not taking a
[6:31:54] position right now I'm hopeful
[6:31:56] that maybe we can scct assembly
[6:31:58] man or maybe we could, you know,
[6:32:00] get our counsel here and maybe
[6:32:01] cal optima downtown opine on
[6:32:04] what does that interpretation
[6:32:06] means. I mean, I'm not asking
[6:32:07] for it right now but I'm saying
[6:32:09] that I think it needs some time
[6:32:20] to vet it through..
[6:32:20] >>chair, doug chaffee: so I'm
[6:32:23] not sure where we are. I'm
[6:32:24] reading through this. It seems
[6:32:28] to me it's pretty much too much.
[6:32:29] I don't really understand some
[6:32:31] of these things. And I think it
[6:32:37] does not fully understand how
[6:32:38] caloptima works. We've done a
[6:32:41] lot of good works performing
[6:32:42] things already. We've had a lot
[6:32:44] of audits over there already,
[6:32:45] expensive ones. So maybe the
[6:32:47] position is to support if
[6:32:48] amended. Would that be the
[6:32:50] right time kind of thing?
[6:32:51] >>vincente sarmiento: we have
[6:32:53] somebody from our ledge team,
[6:32:55] jonathan, do you mind coming up
[6:32:56] and maybe giving us some
[6:32:57] guidance? What would you
[6:32:57] suggest.
[6:32:58] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[6:32:59] MR. CHAIRMAN, first I had a
[6:33:01] question. I had already asked
[6:33:03] for the floor. If I could ask
[6:33:04] my question. Thank you. It
[6:33:09] looks like section 2b is the
[6:33:10] independent external audit shall
[6:33:12] evaluate at a minimum all of the
[6:33:13] following. And then what
[6:33:17] follows is sections 1 through 8.
[6:33:21] And that is what they're asking
[6:33:24] the audit to cover. So it's not
[6:33:27] giving direction as it relates
[6:33:29] to the contracting and whether
[6:33:30] or not -- what's the value of
[6:33:33] the contracting. It's just
[6:33:36] suggesting that one of the
[6:33:39] categories of the audit be the
[6:33:41] health authority's governance
[6:33:44] structure policies and
[6:33:46] procedures and ability to
[6:33:49] conduct contracting and
[6:33:50] procurement functions. So
[6:33:52] that's how I read it. It
[6:33:54] doesn't read to me to be
[6:33:56] requiring anything other than an
[6:34:00] audit of those practices..
[6:34:02] >>chair, doug chaffee: well,
[6:34:05] some of this is odd the way it's
[6:34:11] worded, and it talks about the
[6:34:12] independent conducted interviews
[6:34:15] with caloptima staff by an
[6:34:17] anonymous opportunity to share
[6:34:19] their feedback. I don't know if
[6:34:21] that's standard audit practice.
[6:34:22] I think that's a little bit far
[6:34:25] out, that type of stuff. So I
[6:34:26] think this isn't right the way
[6:34:37] it is.. Do you have a comment
[6:34:41] here please?
[6:34:42] >>speaker: I wanted to clarify,
[6:34:44] the language in front of you is
[6:34:45] negotiated with the senate
[6:34:49] health committee and the authors
[6:34:53] office.. It is not in print
[6:34:55] yet. So the bill that is in
[6:34:58] print we would like to remain
[6:35:00] opposed to -- previous to the
[6:35:02] board action but if this
[6:35:05] language was accepted and was
[6:35:08] presented from the senate health
[6:35:09] committee tomorrow we would be
[6:35:13] able to remove our opposition to
[6:35:15] it..
[6:35:16] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: so
[6:35:18] those unless appled would be
[6:35:18] right
[6:35:19] >>janet nguyen: well, that
[6:35:21] change what is we just took an
[6:35:22] action on. This would have been
[6:35:23] helpful to know that this was
[6:35:29] not in print. So if -- we just
[6:35:30] rescinded a vote on a bill that
[6:35:34] is currently in print, which we
[6:35:37] still want to oppose. You know,
[6:35:39] either we go back to opposing
[6:35:43] the current printed version, and
[6:35:45] I think we should do that, and
[6:35:47] then wait till in one officially
[6:35:49] goes into print and then, you
[6:35:51] know, have that discussion. But
[6:35:54] we hear the board. We hear your
[6:35:54] concerns. And so we will at
[6:35:57] least have those conversations
[6:35:59] up in sacramento tomorrow. So
[6:36:00] would you like to make that
[6:36:04] motion again?
[6:36:05] >>vincente sarmiento: to
[6:36:07] continue with our opposed
[6:36:10] position because this is a draft
[6:36:13] language that hasn't been
[6:36:14] approved. We don't have the
[6:36:15] final version. So the actual
[6:36:17] version is still the same
[6:36:20] version that this board
[6:36:21] unanimously opposed. Thank you
[6:36:24] for clarifying that..
[6:36:25] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I can
[6:36:27] ask another clarifying question
[6:36:28] just so that we don't.
[6:36:30] >>chair, doug chaffee: we're
[6:36:32] getting too deep into the woods
[6:36:32] here.
[6:36:33] >>v. Chair, katrina foley:
[6:36:33] because we need to know -- it's
[6:36:35] a timing question. Like when
[6:36:37] will -- do you expect this to go
[6:36:39] into print? I mean, is this
[6:36:42] expected to go into print
[6:36:43] tomorrow?
[6:36:46] >>speaker: you've hit the point.
[6:36:47] So we would expect this to go
[6:36:50] into print and that's what we
[6:36:50] would need direction on the
[6:36:51] board from, to remove the
[6:36:54] opposition if this goes into
[6:36:54] print.
[6:36:55] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: okay
[6:36:57] >>janet nguyen: so usually when
[6:36:58] it goes into print, it's
[6:37:01] probably going to be some time
[6:37:02] tonight, usually around 8:00
[6:37:04] P.M. Or a little after it will
[6:37:09] go into print. And so kind of
[6:37:15] awkward maybe we -- maybe the
[6:37:20] motion, if I can suggest, is
[6:37:22] oppose the current printed
[6:37:26] version and then the unprinted
[6:37:29] version we will -- if that does
[6:37:34] get printed officially to the
[6:37:36] public, but today we will then
[6:37:38] include that mowing as then we
[6:37:41] would withdraw our current
[6:37:42] opposition to the current
[6:37:44] printed bill. If that makes any
[6:37:44] sense.
[6:37:45] >>v. Chair, katrina foley: I
[6:37:46] think that makes sense.
[6:37:48] >>vincente sarmiento: I'll
[6:37:49] second it, but this is really,
[6:37:50] really messy because had we not
[6:37:52] received this, we just would
[6:37:54] have gone forward, we would have
[6:37:55] met tomorrow and we would have
[6:37:56] worked this out anyways. So
[6:37:58] we're going through this just
[6:38:00] sort of fortuitously that we
[6:38:01] have this draft language and
[6:38:04] we're trying to solve this in
[6:38:05] anticipation of we don't know
[6:38:08] what. I mean, something MAY
[6:38:09] happen. Maybe the author
[6:38:10] changes his mind and says, look,
[6:38:12] I don't want to have this draft
[6:38:14] put into print -- into an active
[6:38:17] bill. So anyways, look, I'll
[6:38:18] support it for the sake of just
[6:38:20] moving this forward but I think
[6:38:22] this is an exercise that's very
[6:38:22] odd..
[6:38:23] >>chair, doug chaffee: county
[6:38:25] counsel, do we have a clarity on
[6:38:29] the motion?
[6:38:32] >>leon page: I understood it as
[6:38:33] opposed, continue to oppose
[6:38:37] unless amended..
[6:38:38] >>chair, doug chaffee: as
[6:38:39] printed and wasn't there
[6:38:41] something about if this new
[6:38:43] version comes in? Or do we do
[6:38:49] nothing on that? M
[6:38:53] >>leon page: we're no longer
[6:38:58] opposed..
[6:39:00] >>chair, doug chaffee: we have a
[6:39:02] motion and a second over here?
[6:39:04] Is there any objection to that
[6:39:05] position? Okay. Have fun
[6:39:07] tomorrow. Enjoy sacramento.
[6:39:10] And, you know, all call me if
[6:39:13] you need any commiseration. And
[6:39:16] we'll see where we go with this.
[6:39:19] Okay. Now, back
[6:39:20] back to
[6:39:21] memorial adjournments. Who has
[6:39:25] any? Anyone have -- supervisor
[6:39:26] sarmiento, go ahead
[6:39:27] >>vincente sarmiento: yes, thank
[6:39:28] you, MR. Chair. I know it's
[6:39:31] been a long day, but this is one
[6:39:32] I, you know, is hard to make. I
[6:39:35] know it's somebody that we knew
[6:39:37] well. Before we adjourn today's
[6:39:38] meeting, I'd like to take a
[6:39:40] moment to honor the life and
[6:39:44] legacy of augustine know chung
[6:39:46] gao who passed away on
[6:39:47] JUNE 7th, 2026 at the age of
[6:39:50] 80. He lived a life defined by
[6:39:52] faith, perseverance, service and
[6:39:55] compassion, born in denang
[6:39:56] vietnam he overcame
[6:39:57] extraordinary challenges and
[6:39:59] hardships before emigrating to
[6:40:00] the united states where he built
[6:40:03] a new life dedicated to helping
[6:40:04] others and strengthening his
[6:40:07] community. As a respected
[6:40:07] pharmacist, community leader and
[6:40:09] advocate, he touched countless
[6:40:10] lives through his work and
[6:40:11] generosity, through his
[6:40:14] leadership at delta drug
[6:40:17] pharmacy and his support of
[6:40:18] civic engagement, cultural
[6:40:19] preservation, black APRIL
[6:40:20] commemorations, human rights
[6:40:22] advocacy and vietnamese language
[6:40:24] media he became a trusted
[6:40:25] admired figure throughout orange
[6:40:26] county's vietnamese american
[6:40:29] community. Those who knew him
[6:40:32] often spoke of his humility,
[6:40:34] kindness and deep commitment to
[6:40:36] family he instilled in future
[6:40:37] generations, the values of
[6:40:39] faith, education, integrity and
[6:40:41] public service leaving a leg
[6:40:42] guess will continue to inspire
[6:40:44] others for years to come. As we
[6:40:47] reflect on his life, we extend
[6:40:48] our heart-felt condolences to
[6:40:50] his family, friends, and all
[6:40:52] those mourning his loss. MAY
[6:40:54] they find comfort in the
[6:40:55] tremendous impact he made and
[6:40:57] the many lives he touched. In
[6:40:59] closing I ask that we remember
[6:41:02] augustine know for his courage,
[6:41:04] his generosity, his unwavering
[6:41:06] commitment to serving others.
[6:41:07] MAY his memory be a blessing and
[6:41:09] his legacy continue to inspire
[6:41:11] us all. I'll be asking that we
[6:41:21] adjourn in his memory..
[6:41:22] >>chair, doug chaffee: all
[6:41:23] right. Any others?
[6:41:25] >>don wagner: thank you,
[6:41:27] MR. CHAIRMAN. Let me start with
[6:41:31] jill cooley. She was a woman
[6:41:32] immense creative energy and
[6:41:33] unwavering integrity. After
[6:41:34] graduating from the university
[6:41:36] of redlands in 1960, jill began
[6:41:38] her career as a second-grade
[6:41:40] teacher. She later earn
[6:41:42] administer's in educational
[6:41:43] psychology serving as a
[6:41:45] dedicated school psychologist
[6:41:45] for tustin unified school
[6:41:46] district for over two decades.
[6:41:49] In 1963 she married dennis
[6:41:51] cooley, together they built a
[6:41:53] life in villa park raising their
[6:41:55] three sons eric, mark, and kirk
[6:41:58] while fostering deep, lifelong
[6:41:59] roots in the community. They
[6:42:01] also enjoyed sponsoring foreign
[6:42:03] students through rotary. Jill's
[6:42:05] primary architect at the villa
[6:42:06] park community spirit is a
[6:42:08] charter member of the villa park
[6:42:11] rotary club, the villa park
[6:42:12] community services foundation
[6:42:15] and peo chapter s. She applied
[6:42:17] her graphic design talents and
[6:42:19] leadership skills to countless
[6:42:20] initiatives. Known
[6:42:22] affectionately as the hippo
[6:42:23] lady, the title she proudly
[6:42:25] displayed on her license plate,
[6:42:28] she was a dedicated collector of
[6:42:29] hippopotamuses, mirrors and
[6:42:31] kaleidoscopes, and yes, I looked
[6:42:34] it up, it's hippopotamuses, not
[6:42:42] him potami -- hippopotami. She
[6:42:45] had a 100-person extended family
[6:42:46] and friends she loved and
[6:42:48] traveled the colorado river with
[6:42:49] for over 50 years. She was an
[6:42:52] elder statesman of her city
[6:42:54] leaving behind a family she
[6:42:55] adored and a community
[6:42:56] transformed by her decades of
[6:42:58] service and friendship. Please
[6:43:02] keep the cooley sons and their
[6:43:04] family in your thoughts and
[6:43:05] prayers. And I have one more
[6:43:09] for les ritter. Les was born in
[6:43:10] baltimore in 1929. He moved to
[6:43:12] southern california in 1951 to
[6:43:14] begin his long career with
[6:43:16] southern california edison,
[6:43:18] retiring 38 years later as
[6:43:18] superintendent of the fullerton
[6:43:24] district. During his there he
[6:43:25] served as superintendent in the
[6:43:27] arrowhead district and then
[6:43:28] manager in the santa ana
[6:43:28] district and later as
[6:43:30] superintendent in the el toro
[6:43:32] district and then in fullerton
[6:43:34] until his retirement in 1989.
[6:43:35] He was known and respected for
[6:43:36] his innovative and creative
[6:43:38] problem solving skills which
[6:43:40] significantly improved the
[6:43:43] orange county sec electrical
[6:43:45] distribution system. Les said
[6:43:46] his greatest pleasure was in the
[6:43:47] promotion and development of the
[6:43:48] young men and women who worked
[6:43:52] for him. In 1985 he married his
[6:43:52] wife jane, and they moved to a
[6:43:54] beautiful home in yorba linda.
[6:43:57] He was a lifelong tennis player
[6:43:59] and fan traveling locally and to
[6:44:00] new york and australia for
[6:44:01] championship tournaments. He
[6:44:03] and jane traveled extensively to
[6:44:04] always return to their yorba
[6:44:06] linda home to enjoy entertaining
[6:44:08] family and friends. He is
[6:44:10] survived by jane, his daughter
[6:44:11] christine, two grabbed
[6:44:13] daughters, tan that and kelly,
[6:44:16] three great grandchildren, and a
[6:44:18] great, great grandson. His
[6:44:22] dying wish was to be entered at
[6:44:24] new orange county cemetery in
[6:44:26] anaheim hills once he's
[6:44:28] completed. And we will honor
[6:44:30] that wish shortly. Thank you,
[6:44:31] mr. CHAIRMAN.
[6:44:31] >>chair, doug chaffee: thank
[6:44:33] you, supervisor wagner. All
[6:44:34] right, I think we're at the end
[6:44:37] of our meeting. We will not
[6:44:38] meet again unless there's a
[6:44:38] special meeting called until
[6:44:42] next AUGUST. With that, we are
[6:44:53] adjourned. Thank you.