1 03:35:43,790 --> 03:35:45,790 [captioner present] 2 03:52:15,115 --> 03:52:17,115 [music playing] 3 03:53:07,701 --> 03:53:09,278 >> Good afternoon everyone. 4 03:53:09,278 --> 03:53:12,198 Welcome all of you back to the Orange County Board of County 5 03:53:12,198 --> 03:53:16,918 Commission budget work session of July the 15th 2026. 6 03:53:16,918 --> 03:53:21,116 We are now in the afternoon portion, 7 03:53:21,116 --> 03:53:23,678 and we'll be hearing from several departments who 8 03:53:23,678 --> 03:53:26,780 will be presenting momentarily. 9 03:53:27,898 --> 03:53:33,718 This morning I do want to also recognize Nanette Mello did 10 03:53:33,718 --> 03:53:34,630 the invocation. 11 03:53:34,630 --> 03:53:38,542 And I'm going to invite her to -- 12 03:53:38,542 --> 03:53:40,848 we're going to take a quick photograph. 13 03:53:40,848 --> 03:53:44,448 Whenever we have persons who come 14 03:53:45,390 --> 03:53:49,438 from provide the invocation, we give them a little certificate 15 03:53:49,438 --> 03:53:50,698 of our appreciation. 16 03:53:50,698 --> 03:53:53,791 We're not going to slight her at all. 17 03:53:53,791 --> 03:53:57,488 I'm going to come down from the dais and make this presentation. 18 03:53:57,488 --> 03:54:01,880 Then we will start our meeting. 19 03:54:23,296 --> 03:54:25,296 [ambient conversation] 20 03:55:41,631 --> 03:55:43,798 >> Thank you all for indulging us for just a moment. 21 03:55:43,798 --> 03:55:46,478 We are going to move forward now to our health Services 22 03:55:46,478 --> 03:55:47,118 department. 23 03:55:47,118 --> 03:55:54,318 We have the privilege of having the famed, The renowned Dr. Raul 24 03:55:56,263 --> 03:55:58,263 Pino, director of our Health Services Department 25 03:55:58,263 --> 03:56:00,305 who is going to be coming and will be leading off 26 03:56:00,305 --> 03:56:01,558 this of the presentation. 27 03:56:01,558 --> 03:56:04,558 Doctor Peeno, you are recognized. 28 03:56:05,264 --> 03:56:08,448 >> Thank you, mayor, commissioners, the controller. 29 03:56:08,448 --> 03:56:10,730 Thank you very much for the opportunity 30 03:56:10,730 --> 03:56:12,473 to present our budget. 31 03:56:12,568 --> 03:56:17,358 As you know, we'll go through our operating budget, 32 03:56:17,358 --> 03:56:21,884 the proposed capital plans, potential programs and services 33 03:56:21,884 --> 03:56:24,988 at risk, as well as offer you a summary at the end. 34 03:56:24,988 --> 03:56:29,228 In our organizational charge, we have not seen changes. 35 03:56:29,228 --> 03:56:32,788 But I want to thank our executive team for the work 36 03:56:32,788 --> 03:56:34,518 that they do every day. 37 03:56:34,518 --> 03:56:36,640 Diane Summers from Animal Services. 38 03:56:36,640 --> 03:56:39,878 Probably doesn't go a day or a week without they 39 03:56:39,878 --> 03:56:41,878 call the cardiologist. 40 03:56:43,780 --> 03:56:45,422 Increasing quality of the services 41 03:56:45,422 --> 03:56:47,746 that we provide at corrections. 42 03:56:47,746 --> 03:56:49,918 The district nine medical examiner 43 03:56:49,918 --> 03:56:54,574 who has been with us for over ten years now, 44 03:56:54,574 --> 03:56:58,774 doctor Joshua Stephanie, doctor Hall, very integral. 45 03:57:07,998 --> 03:57:11,558 Doctor Zuver from the office of the medical director for EMS 46 03:57:11,558 --> 03:57:15,380 services, increasing quality and county services 47 03:57:15,380 --> 03:57:18,878 through EMS, our medical planning with Jessica Rodriguez, 48 03:57:18,878 --> 03:57:21,588 and the whole program we offer to our community 49 03:57:21,588 --> 03:57:23,958 for early detection and treatment and prevention 50 03:57:23,958 --> 03:57:27,271 for individuals who don't have the ability to pay 51 03:57:27,271 --> 03:57:29,308 or don't have insurance. 52 03:57:29,308 --> 03:57:32,738 Our mosquito control program with Steve Harrison, 53 03:57:32,738 --> 03:57:34,918 they just moved to a new facility. 54 03:57:34,918 --> 03:57:38,254 Thank you for your support with that. 55 03:57:38,254 --> 03:57:43,638 Also the provision of disease borne, mosquito disease borne 56 03:57:43,638 --> 03:57:48,780 diseases, and Claudia, are fiscal and operational support 57 03:57:48,780 --> 03:57:51,780 who oversees our right hand. 58 03:57:51,118 --> 03:57:52,822 And John Goodrich. 59 03:57:52,822 --> 03:57:57,174 The mayor said he has the best county administrator. 60 03:57:57,174 --> 03:58:02,478 I have the best deputy director in the county. 61 03:58:02,478 --> 03:58:09,780 For the proposed budget, we have seen changes in our budget. 62 03:58:09,722 --> 03:58:12,838 I'm going to explain to you where the changes are. 63 03:58:12,838 --> 03:58:15,331 In general we have seen a 4% increase. 64 03:58:15,331 --> 03:58:20,131 For personal services, our changes are about 3.8 million. 65 03:58:22,638 --> 03:58:27,126 We have salaries and benefits and other elements. 66 03:58:27,126 --> 03:58:30,578 It's going to come up to a $58.5 million. 67 03:58:30,578 --> 03:58:34,778 Our operating budget has increased by 1.3 million 68 03:58:34,851 --> 03:58:36,264 to 72.7. 69 03:58:36,264 --> 03:58:41,640 And our total budget is increasing by $5.1 million 70 03:58:41,918 --> 03:58:43,358 to 131.2. 71 03:58:43,358 --> 03:58:46,366 We have seen a significant increase 72 03:58:46,366 --> 03:58:49,734 in our grants, which is about 24% increase. 73 03:58:49,734 --> 03:58:52,390 I'll explain that to you in details. 74 03:58:52,390 --> 03:58:55,398 But that's also a big portion of that 4% 75 03:58:55,398 --> 03:58:58,658 that we see in our general budget. 76 03:58:58,658 --> 03:59:01,658 Our staffing remains very flat. 77 03:59:02,868 --> 03:59:06,488 Only three positions that are required by law since we 78 03:59:06,488 --> 03:59:08,702 did the changes to the Animal Services Ordinance. 79 03:59:08,702 --> 03:59:11,702 We are adding some staff. 80 03:59:12,258 --> 03:59:17,799 On the grants, I just want to give you an overview. 81 03:59:17,799 --> 03:59:20,966 Opioid Settlement funds has a balance now -- 82 03:59:20,966 --> 03:59:24,566 this is cumulative -- of $21 million. 83 03:59:24,818 --> 03:59:27,326 You'll see that's a lot of money paramedic 84 03:59:27,326 --> 03:59:32,126 but the Opioid Trust Fund is very unstable. 85 03:59:33,507 --> 03:59:35,215 We don't know how much we're going to get 86 03:59:35,215 --> 03:59:36,257 or we're going to get at. 87 03:59:36,257 --> 03:59:38,000 And we always like to have operations 88 03:59:38,000 --> 03:59:40,591 funded for the next five years. 89 03:59:40,591 --> 03:59:43,944 This is about five years of funding, 90 03:59:43,944 --> 03:59:46,768 what we keep in reserve there in case anything changed. 91 03:59:46,768 --> 03:59:50,294 Some of those funds are still in litigation at the federal level. 92 03:59:50,294 --> 03:59:52,838 So changes could happen earlier. 93 03:59:52,838 --> 03:59:56,438 Our HIV grants are $12.2 million annually. 94 03:59:58,548 --> 04:00:01,798 Our general fund, this is what we 95 04:00:01,798 --> 04:00:05,968 provide support for the PCAN network and the Health 96 04:00:05,968 --> 04:00:06,468 Department. 97 04:00:06,468 --> 04:00:07,868 That's about $4.9 million. 98 04:00:07,868 --> 04:00:12,680 And Animal Services Trust Fund is about $300,000. 99 04:00:12,678 --> 04:00:15,838 This is what we use to support nonprofit organizations that 100 04:00:15,838 --> 04:00:19,478 provide services and care for pets around the county. 101 04:00:19,478 --> 04:00:24,278 Another important driver in our budget every year 102 04:00:25,380 --> 04:00:28,340 is the Medicare and Medicaid expenses 103 04:00:28,340 --> 04:00:29,798 the county is mandated by the state 104 04:00:29,798 --> 04:00:31,771 and the state decides what that amount is. 105 04:00:31,771 --> 04:00:35,918 That amount for this year is $28.6 million. 106 04:00:35,918 --> 04:00:41,264 It has been a 40% increase in the last five years 107 04:00:41,264 --> 04:00:44,118 on the amount that we have to provide. 108 04:00:44,118 --> 04:00:50,118 Just to give you an idea, in 2021, we provided $20 million. 109 04:00:51,903 --> 04:00:55,488 Six years out or almost $9 million over. 110 04:00:55,488 --> 04:00:59,688 So it's a fund that keeps increasing. 111 04:01:00,638 --> 04:01:04,422 It's a regulation that has mandated funding. 112 04:01:04,422 --> 04:01:06,834 On the three positions as I explained to you, 113 04:01:06,834 --> 04:01:09,724 we really needed four, but we were 114 04:01:09,724 --> 04:01:12,484 able to reclassify position within our 16 positions 115 04:01:12,484 --> 04:01:15,449 so that we have to come for one less. 116 04:01:15,449 --> 04:01:18,169 And we came to you and the proposal 117 04:01:18,169 --> 04:01:21,780 took a veterinarian and two vet technicians. 118 04:01:21,780 --> 04:01:24,380 This is to deal with increased services 119 04:01:24,380 --> 04:01:28,368 that we foresee coming with the new shelter 120 04:01:28,368 --> 04:01:33,168 that thankfully we will have in a year. 121 04:01:33,871 --> 04:01:38,671 In operating highlights, as I mentioned to you, 122 04:01:41,380 --> 04:01:43,224 we keep a straightforward approach 123 04:01:43,224 --> 04:01:45,478 as indicated by the administration. 124 04:01:45,478 --> 04:01:48,851 But we also have identified opportunities 125 04:01:48,851 --> 04:01:51,798 where we can provide support. 126 04:01:51,798 --> 04:01:57,198 Three secure three year grants of $700,000 to provide long 127 04:02:01,194 --> 04:02:02,486 acting injectables of the jail. 128 04:02:02,486 --> 04:02:05,398 We also apply for a three year 1.2 million grant 129 04:02:05,398 --> 04:02:10,178 to bridge medication injectables for opioid use disorders. 130 04:02:10,178 --> 04:02:12,518 These are the medications that have 131 04:02:12,518 --> 04:02:17,318 been very successful in offering recovery for individuals. 132 04:02:18,367 --> 04:02:20,860 But they are very costly. 133 04:02:20,860 --> 04:02:24,779 But we are offering for free to many of our residents. 134 04:02:24,779 --> 04:02:27,870 We also continue to renegotiate our contract 135 04:02:27,870 --> 04:02:30,780 with the hospital in the way that we provide services 136 04:02:30,780 --> 04:02:31,798 for correctional facilities. 137 04:02:31,798 --> 04:02:35,342 And in corrections we also have transitions from services 138 04:02:35,342 --> 04:02:37,366 that were provided by contractors. 139 04:02:37,366 --> 04:02:40,918 And now we have the capacity to provide ourselves. 140 04:02:40,918 --> 04:02:45,718 Because we are seeing an increase and stabilization 141 04:02:47,380 --> 04:02:48,504 in our workforce. 142 04:02:48,504 --> 04:02:51,758 The mosquito control program is also 143 04:02:51,758 --> 04:02:56,488 another area where we are using new technologies 144 04:02:56,488 --> 04:02:58,778 to offer a service. 145 04:02:58,778 --> 04:03:04,518 Is a software that was developed by our GIS providers 146 04:03:04,518 --> 04:03:06,894 inside the county collaboration with Mosquito Control. 147 04:03:06,894 --> 04:03:11,118 It gives us the ability to see in real time 148 04:03:11,118 --> 04:03:15,518 where we apply products what products are getting applied, 149 04:03:15,518 --> 04:03:18,634 which vehicles are out, and also give us the ability 150 04:03:18,634 --> 04:03:21,935 to coordinate with the population that may be placed 151 04:03:21,935 --> 04:03:24,318 at risk by the products that we use 152 04:03:24,318 --> 04:03:27,318 and in coordination with them. 153 04:03:27,674 --> 04:03:33,930 The drug office also has seen an increase in the opioid response 154 04:03:33,930 --> 04:03:35,930 that we provide. 155 04:03:35,179 --> 04:03:37,930 We're expanding the medications the use 156 04:03:37,930 --> 04:03:39,219 that we provide to residents. 157 04:03:39,219 --> 04:03:41,888 And we have a partnership different providers 158 04:03:41,888 --> 04:03:43,718 around the country. 159 04:03:43,718 --> 04:03:46,718 Those are receiving funds from the Opioid Trust Fund. 160 04:03:46,718 --> 04:03:50,318 And we are offering case management 161 04:03:50,318 --> 04:03:52,782 for individuals connected through the jail 162 04:03:52,782 --> 04:03:55,238 system and local emergency departments. 163 04:03:55,238 --> 04:04:00,304 We also are in the process of creating a new service 164 04:04:00,304 --> 04:04:02,738 at the East Side Clinic. 165 04:04:02,738 --> 04:04:06,938 The project is called the General Column 166 04:04:07,894 --> 04:04:11,571 but it will probably be something else more completely. 167 04:04:11,571 --> 04:04:13,313 It's basically what it's going to do 168 04:04:13,313 --> 04:04:17,144 it's going to be a 23 hour observation bay for individuals 169 04:04:17,144 --> 04:04:22,798 you may come out of the hospital and want to initiate treatment 170 04:04:22,798 --> 04:04:27,940 immediately for individuals who may have refused to be 171 04:04:27,940 --> 04:04:30,660 transported to the hospital after an overdose, 172 04:04:30,660 --> 04:04:35,466 but are okay by EMS to receive these services. 173 04:04:36,385 --> 04:04:38,100 This means no one needs to wait anymore 174 04:04:38,100 --> 04:04:43,158 to receive treatment for opioid assistance, drug use treatment 175 04:04:43,158 --> 04:04:44,803 if they decide to do that. 176 04:04:44,803 --> 04:04:49,300 We will start immediately in this facility. 177 04:04:49,189 --> 04:04:51,264 We will be with you when the time comes. 178 04:04:51,264 --> 04:04:52,878 I will give you a tour. 179 04:04:52,878 --> 04:04:55,880 But we're making renovations to make this successful 180 04:04:55,880 --> 04:04:56,891 for our residents. 181 04:04:56,891 --> 04:05:01,508 And correctional Health, we are also always improving. 182 04:05:01,508 --> 04:05:06,558 We have simplified our formulary to offer more straight line 183 04:05:06,558 --> 04:05:09,940 services from the medications, but also 184 04:05:09,940 --> 04:05:11,860 for inventory purposes and expenses. 185 04:05:11,860 --> 04:05:14,374 We have removed some drugs that we 186 04:05:14,374 --> 04:05:19,878 have multiple presentations of the drug to be more efficient. 187 04:05:19,878 --> 04:05:23,380 It's resulting in about a 32% reduction in the formulary 188 04:05:23,380 --> 04:05:24,587 without compromising care. 189 04:05:24,587 --> 04:05:27,163 It makes it more streamlined. 190 04:05:27,163 --> 04:05:33,163 And these help us to decrease the Number of weekly 191 04:05:35,300 --> 04:05:38,603 prescriptions by 6% from about 41,000 to about 39,000. 192 04:05:39,850 --> 04:05:42,798 Believe it or not every week we give about 39,000 medications 193 04:05:42,798 --> 04:05:44,124 in the jail. 194 04:05:44,124 --> 04:05:46,948 Also we have made some medications 195 04:05:46,948 --> 04:05:50,918 that are generic available to our inmates 196 04:05:50,918 --> 04:05:56,918 through commissary so they don't have to use the providers. 197 04:06:00,158 --> 04:06:04,126 We foresee some risk coming to our grants, 198 04:06:04,126 --> 04:06:07,718 especially as you heard in the news a few weeks back, 199 04:06:07,718 --> 04:06:09,431 there was an issue with the program 200 04:06:09,431 --> 04:06:15,314 in the state that has been reinstated, at least for a year. 201 04:06:15,314 --> 04:06:21,314 We don't k what the future of it is -- 202 04:06:23,230 --> 04:06:25,730 without compromising the most essential services to the people 203 04:06:25,730 --> 04:06:29,174 that are HIV infected in our community. 204 04:06:29,174 --> 04:06:33,974 As I mentioned to you, our medication costs, 205 04:06:34,478 --> 04:06:37,478 Medicaid costs continue to increase. 206 04:06:38,588 --> 04:06:39,928 Will continue to increase. 207 04:06:39,928 --> 04:06:43,398 That continue to affect our budget. 208 04:06:43,398 --> 04:06:46,938 In the capital improvement plan, you 209 04:06:46,938 --> 04:06:51,780 are very familiar with two projects that were involved. 210 04:06:51,780 --> 04:06:56,430 The medical Examiner's office as well as the new shelter, 211 04:06:56,430 --> 04:06:58,414 the new animal shelter. 212 04:06:58,414 --> 04:07:04,731 For this year we are asking for $31 million in our NCIP. 213 04:07:04,731 --> 04:07:06,338 With the animal services facility, 214 04:07:06,338 --> 04:07:09,984 we have been keeping you updated as much as we can. 215 04:07:09,984 --> 04:07:11,811 They are moving a lot around. 216 04:07:11,811 --> 04:07:13,506 It looks like nothing is happening. 217 04:07:13,506 --> 04:07:18,906 But this is preparing all the essential services, sewage, 218 04:07:19,318 --> 04:07:20,298 water, electricity. 219 04:07:20,298 --> 04:07:23,678 It'll be done by the fall in 2027, 220 04:07:23,678 --> 04:07:28,478 and new facility will be about 123,000 square footage. 221 04:07:30,180 --> 04:07:33,774 And right now the allocation is about $85 million. 222 04:07:33,774 --> 04:07:36,174 After some consideration, $7 million 223 04:07:37,238 --> 04:07:42,422 we're back to the capital fund because they were not necessary 224 04:07:42,422 --> 04:07:47,780 as the process comes below was initially calculated. 225 04:07:47,780 --> 04:07:52,478 And it will have capacity for 265 dogs, about 200 cats. 226 04:07:55,804 --> 04:07:58,204 The medical examiner approximates 227 04:08:00,361 --> 04:08:03,361 the total of about $28 million. 228 04:08:03,387 --> 04:08:05,328 This is going to duplicate the capacity 229 04:08:05,328 --> 04:08:06,862 that the medical examiner has. 230 04:08:06,862 --> 04:08:09,338 We are prepared for the future as the population 231 04:08:09,338 --> 04:08:10,630 grows in our county. 232 04:08:10,630 --> 04:08:15,430 Remember that we also service Osceola County, which 233 04:08:16,998 --> 04:08:21,798 already provided 21% of the cost to Orange County. 234 04:08:22,230 --> 04:08:25,670 That has been fully paid and it's with Orange County 235 04:08:25,670 --> 04:08:26,838 right now. 236 04:08:26,838 --> 04:08:32,238 As you know, there are potential issues coming along, 237 04:08:34,430 --> 04:08:36,294 not for this year, for the year after. 238 04:08:36,294 --> 04:08:39,894 With initially in the November 3rd, 2020, 239 04:08:40,230 --> 04:08:44,586 ballot for the constitutional amendment on the homestead 240 04:08:44,586 --> 04:08:45,860 issue. 241 04:08:45,860 --> 04:08:48,620 And if approved by taxpayers, you 242 04:08:48,620 --> 04:08:52,862 could see some challenges to our budget in 2028. 243 04:08:55,838 --> 04:08:58,318 It's estimated by county government that will 244 04:08:58,318 --> 04:09:00,253 affect about 10% of our budget. 245 04:09:00,253 --> 04:09:03,180 These are the areas more likely could 246 04:09:03,180 --> 04:09:07,342 be affected as they are not in code, meaning 247 04:09:07,342 --> 04:09:11,838 these areas are not either in county, federal, or state law. 248 04:09:11,838 --> 04:09:16,380 It's basically the primary care access network. 249 04:09:16,188 --> 04:09:18,511 These include services that we provide 250 04:09:18,511 --> 04:09:21,511 to our client, secondary services, 251 04:09:21,522 --> 04:09:26,678 any support of the county office to all the community health 252 04:09:26,678 --> 04:09:27,748 centers. 253 04:09:27,748 --> 04:09:32,548 And secondary care, this is an important area. 254 04:09:33,798 --> 04:09:36,424 This is the work that we do when people do not 255 04:09:36,424 --> 04:09:37,485 have health insurance. 256 04:09:37,485 --> 04:09:40,980 To give you an example, negotiating 257 04:09:40,980 --> 04:09:43,544 with the hospital at cost, we were 258 04:09:43,544 --> 04:09:46,484 able to provide chemotherapy for a female last year that 259 04:09:46,484 --> 04:09:48,248 did not have the funding. 260 04:09:48,248 --> 04:09:52,310 That was a safe measure that would provide these services 261 04:09:52,310 --> 04:09:55,898 at no increased cost, just the medication costs 262 04:09:55,898 --> 04:09:58,898 in the negotiation with AdventHealth. 263 04:09:59,197 --> 04:10:03,263 That was something that we were able to do as a great service 264 04:10:03,263 --> 04:10:05,398 to our community paramedic and public health, 265 04:10:05,398 --> 04:10:09,338 we support the Department of Health with about $1.3 million 266 04:10:09,338 --> 04:10:10,291 a year. 267 04:10:10,291 --> 04:10:12,565 That goes to essential services that 268 04:10:12,565 --> 04:10:15,902 are provided to our community from STDs 269 04:10:15,902 --> 04:10:18,302 to other infectious diseases. 270 04:10:18,833 --> 04:10:24,833 And also our mosquito control program is not in code, 271 04:10:25,758 --> 04:10:29,734 not for no reason this county was called Mosquito County 272 04:10:29,734 --> 04:10:32,230 before it was called Orange County. 273 04:10:32,230 --> 04:10:34,814 This is an essential service to our community. 274 04:10:34,814 --> 04:10:38,678 Not only for the prevention of disease, 275 04:10:38,678 --> 04:10:41,246 mosquito borne diseases, which are many, 276 04:10:41,246 --> 04:10:43,438 increasing as the temperature changes. 277 04:10:43,438 --> 04:10:44,998 We've seen an increase in the number 278 04:10:44,998 --> 04:10:48,982 of species that are living in our area, 279 04:10:48,982 --> 04:10:54,982 but also the business of this county, which is tourism. 280 04:10:56,438 --> 04:11:01,838 For summary, the art department has implemented a number 281 04:11:04,124 --> 04:11:09,100 of measures to try to control costs and reduce the expenses, 282 04:11:09,100 --> 04:11:14,380 or at least limiting the rising health care costs, 283 04:11:14,380 --> 04:11:15,702 reducing hospitalization and enhancing 284 04:11:15,702 --> 04:11:18,128 on site care for promotion health services. 285 04:11:18,128 --> 04:11:21,411 We have expanded services at our correctional facility 286 04:11:21,411 --> 04:11:25,110 while lowering the cost per inmate. 287 04:11:25,330 --> 04:11:28,930 And the potential state and federal 288 04:11:28,934 --> 04:11:30,691 impacts that we could see in the future, 289 04:11:30,691 --> 04:11:33,838 those are some of the challenges and the opportunities 290 04:11:33,838 --> 04:11:35,758 that we have ahead of us. 291 04:11:35,758 --> 04:11:37,758 Thank you. 292 04:11:39,930 --> 04:11:41,692 >> All right, Dr. Pino. 293 04:11:41,692 --> 04:11:42,894 I have one question. 294 04:11:42,894 --> 04:11:44,645 I'm one of the earlier slides comment 295 04:11:44,645 --> 04:11:46,608 you talked about the Medicaid expenditures 296 04:11:46,608 --> 04:11:48,978 that the county is paying. 297 04:11:48,978 --> 04:11:51,663 They seem to be going up and up and up. 298 04:11:51,663 --> 04:11:54,380 Let me ask you a question. 299 04:11:54,380 --> 04:11:56,758 If the state of Florida participated 300 04:11:56,758 --> 04:12:01,558 in the federal Medicaid expansion programs, expanded it 301 04:12:02,847 --> 04:12:06,838 here in the state, would that have any impact 302 04:12:06,838 --> 04:12:11,638 on closing the gap in what we're spending 303 04:12:12,578 --> 04:12:14,978 and on Medicaid expenditures? 304 04:12:17,549 --> 04:12:19,549 >> Yes. 305 04:12:19,873 --> 04:12:21,873 >> I thought so. 306 04:12:24,754 --> 04:12:26,460 >> More people will be covered. 307 04:12:26,460 --> 04:12:28,278 Less would be needed for those who are not. 308 04:12:28,278 --> 04:12:31,838 >> I'm going to open it up for questions and comments from 309 04:12:31,838 --> 04:12:34,238 members of the board. 310 04:12:34,758 --> 04:12:36,758 Commissioner Wilson. 311 04:12:38,392 --> 04:12:41,384 >> I can't tell if I'm hitting my button or not. 312 04:12:41,384 --> 04:12:43,784 Just assume I am. 313 04:12:44,798 --> 04:12:48,200 They're going to replace the data soon 314 04:12:48,200 --> 04:12:50,158 comment which is good because I think we're all 315 04:12:50,158 --> 04:12:52,138 operating on one power up here. 316 04:12:52,138 --> 04:12:54,138 Sometimes it works. 317 04:12:54,438 --> 04:12:56,358 Sometimes it doesn't. 318 04:12:56,358 --> 04:12:59,278 Sometimes we talk about critical municipal services 319 04:12:59,278 --> 04:13:04,240 common local services, for little people, your team. 320 04:13:04,240 --> 04:13:09,424 I say this -- you're talking about health services, 321 04:13:11,298 --> 04:13:16,198 our mosquito control column which is a tremendous health 322 04:13:16,198 --> 04:13:20,678 protector, taking care of the least among us and the most 323 04:13:20,678 --> 04:13:23,780 fragile medically among us. 324 04:13:23,959 --> 04:13:25,574 And then you combine that with things 325 04:13:25,574 --> 04:13:27,404 that are mandated by the state. 326 04:13:27,404 --> 04:13:33,835 And so what that means is should we meet a budget shortfall, 327 04:13:33,835 --> 04:13:36,380 the state mandated things presumably 328 04:13:36,380 --> 04:13:38,910 would require us to satisfy those first. 329 04:13:38,910 --> 04:13:41,811 It begs the question -- 330 04:13:41,811 --> 04:13:44,260 I saw the programs at risk. 331 04:13:44,260 --> 04:13:47,310 I want to make sure people understand-- 332 04:13:47,310 --> 04:13:49,552 I had a conversation over the with somebody 333 04:13:49,552 --> 04:13:51,344 about mosquito control because they thought 334 04:13:51,344 --> 04:13:52,464 it was about convenience. 335 04:13:52,464 --> 04:13:55,678 And they were like, just buy your own Off. 336 04:13:55,678 --> 04:13:57,678 You don't understand. 337 04:13:57,759 --> 04:13:59,634 Mosquito borne illness has killed more people 338 04:13:59,634 --> 04:14:02,304 in the history of mankind than almost anything else. 339 04:14:02,304 --> 04:14:04,124 Understanding that that is an investment 340 04:14:04,124 --> 04:14:06,374 in keeping people alive. 341 04:14:06,374 --> 04:14:08,818 You said this is also for people who visit here. 342 04:14:08,818 --> 04:14:11,260 We have more people who visit this area than anywhere 343 04:14:11,260 --> 04:14:11,862 else in the world. 344 04:14:11,862 --> 04:14:14,600 Are there any revenue possibilities for you 345 04:14:14,600 --> 04:14:17,310 all to use that come from that revenue stream 346 04:14:17,310 --> 04:14:20,904 come a tourist revenue stream, versus the things that we know 347 04:14:20,904 --> 04:14:24,958 are at risk right now because of this proposed legislation? 348 04:14:24,958 --> 04:14:30,310 >> So there are ways that we could qualify the mosquito 349 04:14:30,310 --> 04:14:32,180 in County code. 350 04:14:32,180 --> 04:14:35,180 That could protect the program. 351 04:14:35,268 --> 04:14:37,851 Because it would allow you as the amendment 352 04:14:37,851 --> 04:14:44,742 goes as it is to invest with the revenue that you may generate. 353 04:14:44,742 --> 04:14:46,742 That's a possibility. 354 04:14:46,938 --> 04:14:49,448 To your point, mosquito control program 355 04:14:49,448 --> 04:14:53,254 is not just about mosquito biting you and having 356 04:14:53,254 --> 04:14:56,254 less nuisance in that sense. 357 04:14:56,334 --> 04:15:00,403 Every time there is a disease coming from any of the tropics, 358 04:15:00,403 --> 04:15:02,998 we get a referral from the health department. 359 04:15:02,998 --> 04:15:06,518 They deal with an segment of the area. 360 04:15:06,518 --> 04:15:09,319 They develop a radius around the house 361 04:15:09,319 --> 04:15:10,944 where the individual lives in that area 362 04:15:10,944 --> 04:15:12,691 is treated specifically intensively 363 04:15:12,691 --> 04:15:16,860 to monitor the mosquitoes in the area that 364 04:15:16,860 --> 04:15:17,758 could transmit that disease. 365 04:15:17,758 --> 04:15:24,958 Recently we have seen -- we heard about Zika five years ago. 366 04:15:25,840 --> 04:15:28,840 Oda was here last year. 367 04:15:28,470 --> 04:15:31,410 Those are new tropical diseases that are coming up 368 04:15:31,410 --> 04:15:33,158 as the temperatures elevate. 369 04:15:33,158 --> 04:15:34,884 >> Climate, yeah. 370 04:15:34,884 --> 04:15:39,910 And I think to the extent of some of these health issues 371 04:15:39,910 --> 04:15:43,880 that we feel like, having served here during COVID 372 04:15:43,880 --> 04:15:47,188 and trying to make sure that we are planning for the worst 373 04:15:47,188 --> 04:15:52,470 and hoping for the best, I cringe to think about any cuts 374 04:15:52,470 --> 04:15:56,498 at all, understanding the impacts that those may have. 375 04:15:56,498 --> 04:15:59,126 I think I asked about the tourist revenue stream 376 04:15:59,126 --> 04:16:02,380 just because we understand that we have tourist development tax 377 04:16:02,380 --> 04:16:03,158 dollars that come in. 378 04:16:03,158 --> 04:16:04,838 Is always how they discussed here 379 04:16:04,838 --> 04:16:08,508 within these really tight boundaries based on legislation. 380 04:16:08,508 --> 04:16:11,742 But we don't often articulate well 381 04:16:11,742 --> 04:16:16,363 how many benefits our visitors get by all the other investments 382 04:16:16,363 --> 04:16:20,483 that we make that do not come from those revenue streams. 383 04:16:20,483 --> 04:16:24,771 And they think every single person here from all your team 384 04:16:24,771 --> 04:16:25,974 here are included. 385 04:16:25,974 --> 04:16:28,550 I think about the fact that we have 386 04:16:28,550 --> 04:16:30,182 Narcan at the airport in case somebody overdoses 387 04:16:30,182 --> 04:16:34,135 and that if you happen to let your dog out of your hotel room 388 04:16:34,135 --> 04:16:38,934 then they get lost and ended up in Orange County Animal 389 04:16:38,934 --> 04:16:45,190 Services, we the most incredible team take care of them there. 390 04:16:45,190 --> 04:16:47,660 Those are benefits that go rarely described 391 04:16:47,660 --> 04:16:48,558 and not funded by the dollars that 392 04:16:48,558 --> 04:16:53,358 are channeled into the efforts to promote tourism. 393 04:16:54,131 --> 04:16:57,955 I'm trying so hard to make these connections because we are going 394 04:16:57,955 --> 04:16:59,341 to have to get creative and we're 395 04:16:59,341 --> 04:17:02,308 going to have to be able to also explain our current investments 396 04:17:02,308 --> 04:17:05,542 and the importance of those in keeping people alive 397 04:17:05,542 --> 04:17:07,398 and keeping people safe. 398 04:17:07,398 --> 04:17:12,798 I think the other part that Medicaid expansion question, 399 04:17:14,587 --> 04:17:19,780 was there any appetite any time over these last couple of years 400 04:17:19,780 --> 04:17:21,718 for the state to pick up that tab? 401 04:17:21,718 --> 04:17:24,620 I know the answer to this question. 402 04:17:24,620 --> 04:17:26,695 The mayor is laughing because we struggle with this every year. 403 04:17:26,695 --> 04:17:28,704 I just want to make sure that for this year, 404 04:17:28,704 --> 04:17:31,526 I think there's an opportunity for us to talk about again, 405 04:17:31,526 --> 04:17:33,206 this is an unfunded mandate. 406 04:17:33,206 --> 04:17:37,903 We all agree that health care is necessary. 407 04:17:37,903 --> 04:17:41,238 But if we don't have state assistance with state mandates 408 04:17:41,238 --> 04:17:44,798 and they take away the one revenue source that is stable, 409 04:17:44,798 --> 04:17:46,688 I am not sure how -- 410 04:17:46,688 --> 04:17:48,118 and there was no plan. 411 04:17:48,118 --> 04:17:49,120 They didn't study it. 412 04:17:49,120 --> 04:17:51,271 They had no idea how to take care 413 04:17:51,271 --> 04:17:54,271 of folks who energy assistance. 414 04:17:54,838 --> 04:18:00,346 I believe government were here for that health safety welfare 415 04:18:00,346 --> 04:18:00,846 piece. 416 04:18:00,846 --> 04:18:04,558 That is our primary duty is to make sure that we are keeping 417 04:18:04,558 --> 04:18:06,502 people healthy and safe. 418 04:18:06,502 --> 04:18:08,506 You do a fantastic job of it. 419 04:18:08,506 --> 04:18:09,455 So thank you. 420 04:18:09,455 --> 04:18:11,380 I don't have any other questions other 421 04:18:11,380 --> 04:18:14,152 than I think I want to do a hard hat 422 04:18:14,152 --> 04:18:16,764 tour when we are at that place for the animal services. 423 04:18:16,764 --> 04:18:18,708 And I would love to see-- 424 04:18:18,708 --> 04:18:22,833 I think you said that 24 hour program. 425 04:18:22,833 --> 04:18:26,391 I would love to hear more about that also. 426 04:18:26,391 --> 04:18:27,350 It is brilliant. 427 04:18:27,350 --> 04:18:28,838 As somebody who has looked at some 428 04:18:28,838 --> 04:18:31,286 of that research about that first 24 hours out, 429 04:18:31,286 --> 04:18:33,766 it's the most dangerous time. 430 04:18:33,766 --> 04:18:37,980 Thank you for always continuing to look for those opportunities 431 04:18:37,980 --> 04:18:37,998 to save people. 432 04:18:37,998 --> 04:18:39,998 I appreciate it. 433 04:18:45,124 --> 04:18:45,867 >> Thank you. 434 04:18:45,867 --> 04:18:48,378 >> Thank you for the presentation. 435 04:18:48,378 --> 04:18:51,758 You are one department that I will always 436 04:18:51,758 --> 04:18:54,734 advocate for to get more money for because you're 437 04:18:54,734 --> 04:18:59,188 in the business of you are taking care of the people who 438 04:18:59,188 --> 04:19:04,992 without the care can end up without a life peer am I 439 04:19:04,992 --> 04:19:08,926 I have some specific questions very quickly. 440 04:19:08,926 --> 04:19:11,478 I know that district nine of the medical examiner 441 04:19:11,478 --> 04:19:12,978 includes Osceola. 442 04:19:12,978 --> 04:19:17,811 Does Osceola cover 100% of their costs, so none of those costs 443 04:19:17,811 --> 04:19:21,752 are picked up by Orange County >> That's correct. 444 04:19:21,752 --> 04:19:25,531 The percentage of the total budget, which we see 21% 445 04:19:25,531 --> 04:19:28,550 of our case volume come from Osceola. 446 04:19:28,550 --> 04:19:30,940 They cover 21% of our budget. 447 04:19:30,940 --> 04:19:35,158 If it goes up, it goes down, it moves with it. 448 04:19:35,158 --> 04:19:36,618 >> Thank you. 449 04:19:36,618 --> 04:19:38,851 There were some concerning legislation 450 04:19:38,851 --> 04:19:43,278 that was in Tallahassee this year regarding the state taking 451 04:19:43,278 --> 04:19:45,278 over animal services. 452 04:19:45,858 --> 04:19:48,478 So that was concerning the legislation. 453 04:19:48,478 --> 04:19:52,222 I think it may come back if we start talking about the property 454 04:19:52,222 --> 04:19:54,222 tax reform passing. 455 04:19:55,720 --> 04:19:59,880 And I wanted to make sure because one thing that tourists 456 04:19:59,880 --> 04:20:00,974 don't like seeing one of those streets 457 04:20:00,974 --> 04:20:03,800 is stray dogs and stray cats. 458 04:20:03,800 --> 04:20:06,486 We have an organization that was receiving 459 04:20:06,486 --> 04:20:11,258 TNR, which is the spaying and neutering of stray cats. 460 04:20:11,258 --> 04:20:13,658 They are called Cata-ppaloosa . 461 04:20:20,343 --> 04:20:21,718 They reduce our street population 462 04:20:21,718 --> 04:20:23,326 in Orange County by thousands of cats 463 04:20:23,326 --> 04:20:24,608 because they trap feral cats. 464 04:20:24,608 --> 04:20:25,693 They get them neutered. 465 04:20:25,693 --> 04:20:26,758 They get them spayed. 466 04:20:26,758 --> 04:20:29,278 Animals that run the streets can spread the disease 467 04:20:29,278 --> 04:20:33,180 to other healthy animals as well as to people. 468 04:20:33,180 --> 04:20:34,278 They impact tourism. 469 04:20:34,278 --> 04:20:37,986 I know their funding is about $2,500 a month that they were 470 04:20:37,986 --> 04:20:39,278 receiving through Pet Alliance. 471 04:20:39,278 --> 04:20:41,378 But I wanted to put it on your radar 472 04:20:41,378 --> 04:20:43,638 because they are providing an important service. 473 04:20:43,638 --> 04:20:46,918 And their service is for free to us. 474 04:20:46,918 --> 04:20:48,726 They are just trying to recoup the funds 475 04:20:48,726 --> 04:20:51,224 for getting those stray cats spayed and neutered 476 04:20:51,224 --> 04:20:54,700 so that they don't contribute to the continued increase 477 04:20:54,700 --> 04:20:56,470 in stray cat population. 478 04:20:56,625 --> 04:20:58,958 >> More than willing to talk today about the possibility 479 04:20:58,958 --> 04:21:02,535 of including it in the future if we have the resources. 480 04:21:02,535 --> 04:21:05,944 We do have a TNR program. 481 04:21:05,944 --> 04:21:08,278 We have one animal services. 482 04:21:08,278 --> 04:21:11,631 We have done this year about four of those. 483 04:21:11,631 --> 04:21:17,631 And we also work with another organization care aligned to. 484 04:21:17,918 --> 04:21:23,918 We brought about $5,700 a month, and that covered just about 485 04:21:24,718 --> 04:21:28,918 another 95 spay neuter operations at the East Side 486 04:21:28,918 --> 04:21:30,586 clinic that has operated. 487 04:21:30,586 --> 04:21:33,128 >> And that is the one that they were using was the East Side 488 04:21:33,128 --> 04:21:35,838 Clinic through Pet Alliance when Pet Alliance was rent out 489 04:21:35,838 --> 04:21:37,278 the facility? 490 04:21:37,278 --> 04:21:38,860 >> They don't rent. 491 04:21:38,860 --> 04:21:39,768 They get it for free. 492 04:21:39,768 --> 04:21:40,935 >> Thank you for doing that. 493 04:21:40,935 --> 04:21:43,531 I think that group is spaying and neutering 494 04:21:43,531 --> 04:21:46,929 ten cats a week so 40 cats a month. 495 04:21:46,929 --> 04:21:48,598 It's a significant population when 496 04:21:48,598 --> 04:21:52,218 you talk about having cages for the 200 in your new facility. 497 04:21:52,218 --> 04:21:58,928 That will fill up very fast if we are losing our TNR funding. 498 04:21:58,928 --> 04:22:00,902 We will send some more information to you 499 04:22:00,902 --> 04:22:03,611 on >> Willing to support the activity if we 500 04:22:03,611 --> 04:22:05,778 have the resources and we can do something about it. 501 04:22:05,778 --> 04:22:06,626 >> Thank you. 502 04:22:06,626 --> 04:22:09,486 And then I just wanted to bring up -- 503 04:22:09,486 --> 04:22:12,782 when we talk about on slide 23 when it talks about the impact 504 04:22:12,782 --> 04:22:19,780 to people, just so that we have factual narrative that can be 505 04:22:19,780 --> 04:22:21,100 used to comment if you could go to slide 23, 506 04:22:21,100 --> 04:22:23,767 those were the potential programs that would be at risk 507 04:22:23,767 --> 04:22:26,767 with a reduction in services. 508 04:22:27,677 --> 04:22:33,677 What I just wanted to -- when you see these, 509 04:22:33,748 --> 04:22:37,438 what is that primary care access network, 510 04:22:37,438 --> 04:22:40,638 are you providing life saving services to people that access 511 04:22:40,638 --> 04:22:41,678 that care? 512 04:22:41,678 --> 04:22:45,766 >> Yes, we provide preventative services for people who have no 513 04:22:45,766 --> 04:22:48,438 other sources of health insurance. 514 04:22:48,438 --> 04:22:54,418 >> If we lose that program, are we talking about increasing -- 515 04:22:54,418 --> 04:22:58,668 families seeing an increase in the loss of family members 516 04:22:58,668 --> 04:23:00,958 to death because they are untreated? 517 04:23:00,958 --> 04:23:05,480 >> For sure, not only us, also supports, 518 04:23:05,480 --> 04:23:07,448 all the community centers. 519 04:23:09,880 --> 04:23:14,218 It's also a coordinated approach to services where we cannot 520 04:23:14,218 --> 04:23:15,718 provide somebody else can provide a. 521 04:23:15,718 --> 04:23:17,198 So it's a whole network of services 522 04:23:17,198 --> 04:23:20,198 that we provide to people who don't have insurance. 523 04:23:20,198 --> 04:23:21,780 >> Thank you. 524 04:23:21,780 --> 04:23:23,451 And then of course, that secondary one 525 04:23:23,451 --> 04:23:26,638 with providing access to care for people who are experiencing 526 04:23:26,638 --> 04:23:28,478 diseases like cancer 527 04:23:28,478 --> 04:23:31,478 >> Surgeries, cancer, you name it. 528 04:23:34,851 --> 04:23:36,978 >> That third one regarding public's health, 529 04:23:36,978 --> 04:23:41,238 talking about some vaccinations, is tuberculosis still active 530 04:23:41,238 --> 04:23:43,238 in our society? 531 04:23:43,318 --> 04:23:45,318 >> Very much so. 532 04:23:46,211 --> 04:23:49,704 >> I have seen that in the news, that tuberculosis rates are 533 04:23:49,704 --> 04:23:50,211 increasing. 534 04:23:50,211 --> 04:23:53,811 Is tuberculosis a lethal >> Untreated, yes. 535 04:23:55,394 --> 04:23:59,600 >> And then with mosquito borne, I have had chikungunya when I 536 04:23:59,600 --> 04:24:00,398 was in the Caribbean. 537 04:24:00,398 --> 04:24:02,910 It was one of the most painful life experiences 538 04:24:02,910 --> 04:24:05,470 I've had in your joints. 539 04:24:05,470 --> 04:24:08,211 But are there diseases that can be 540 04:24:08,211 --> 04:24:12,598 spread by mosquitoes that could result in the death of humans? 541 04:24:12,598 --> 04:24:16,238 >> Yes, just one that is always here, dengue. 542 04:24:16,238 --> 04:24:20,404 >> So 100% of the potential programs and services that could 543 04:24:20,404 --> 04:24:25,438 be at risk for reduction in revenue or program cuts are 544 04:24:25,438 --> 04:24:29,850 actually life saving programs in our community. 545 04:24:29,850 --> 04:24:29,668 >> Absolutely. 546 04:24:29,668 --> 04:24:32,680 That's why they're funded. 547 04:24:32,598 --> 04:24:34,998 >> Thank you, Dr. Pino. 548 04:24:36,890 --> 04:24:41,653 >> On the animal services side, I saw a story -- 549 04:24:41,653 --> 04:24:44,158 I think it was yesterday somewhere 550 04:24:44,158 --> 04:24:47,158 in the news about coyote. 551 04:24:47,238 --> 04:24:51,398 Do we have another coyote in our shelters? 552 04:24:51,398 --> 04:24:56,671 >> We do-- it is normally for the Florida Department 553 04:24:56,671 --> 04:24:57,678 of Wildlife. 554 04:24:57,678 --> 04:25:00,678 But yes, there are coyotes. 555 04:25:03,198 --> 04:25:07,160 >> In Orange County Animal Services does a great coyote 556 04:25:07,160 --> 04:25:07,558 presentation. 557 04:25:07,558 --> 04:25:10,538 Water Park does have a lot of coyotes. 558 04:25:10,538 --> 04:25:12,678 They come out and do services and presentations 559 04:25:12,678 --> 04:25:17,918 to help keep residents safe from human animal conflicts. 560 04:25:17,918 --> 04:25:19,918 >> Very good. 561 04:25:22,238 --> 04:25:24,238 Commissioner. 562 04:25:32,703 --> 04:25:35,398 >> Thank you for the presentation and thank you 563 04:25:35,398 --> 04:25:38,368 for always being accessible to us into my office. 564 04:25:38,368 --> 04:25:42,488 I just wanted to follow up with what Commissioner Semrad 565 04:25:42,488 --> 04:25:45,974 waw was looking into in the secondary care. 566 04:25:45,974 --> 04:25:49,894 You said here that all of these services 567 04:25:49,894 --> 04:25:52,198 are critical services, right? 568 04:25:52,198 --> 04:25:54,198 Oncology, cardio. 569 04:25:57,518 --> 04:26:00,878 So where are these services provided? 570 04:26:00,878 --> 04:26:03,678 >> The services are provided as part of the pika network, 571 04:26:03,678 --> 04:26:05,345 depending on who has the specialization. 572 04:26:05,345 --> 04:26:07,828 It could be AdventHealth, Orlando Health. 573 04:26:07,828 --> 04:26:10,258 It could be whatever the person may decide or whatever 574 04:26:10,258 --> 04:26:11,148 the services. 575 04:26:11,148 --> 04:26:14,518 We also coordinate with the providers. 576 04:26:14,518 --> 04:26:17,398 Whatever we can get are the cheapest, we also go there. 577 04:26:17,398 --> 04:26:20,191 But yeah, normally the negotiated approach, 578 04:26:20,191 --> 04:26:22,118 whatever the client may want. 579 04:26:22,118 --> 04:26:25,794 >> So that means if they have no insurance, 580 04:26:25,794 --> 04:26:30,594 they could still participate in the medical services, 581 04:26:31,630 --> 04:26:37,532 and then from there, they would receive the basic -- 582 04:26:37,532 --> 04:26:40,308 >> The pika is more about primary care, 583 04:26:40,308 --> 04:26:42,346 general approach to health. 584 04:26:42,346 --> 04:26:44,224 And then the secondary care is more 585 04:26:44,224 --> 04:26:47,198 if they need hospitalization, if they need surgery, 586 04:26:47,198 --> 04:26:52,384 if they need physical therapy, whatever the necessity may be. 587 04:26:52,384 --> 04:26:54,384 >> That's good. 588 04:26:54,805 --> 04:26:58,405 Thank you, Dr. Pino, for everything. 589 04:27:00,362 --> 04:27:01,900 >> All right. 590 04:27:01,900 --> 04:27:04,898 Dr. Pino, thank you, sir. 591 04:27:04,898 --> 04:27:06,898 Great job. 592 04:27:07,110 --> 04:27:08,178 >> Can I just say one thing? 593 04:27:08,178 --> 04:27:09,636 I've already looked at your report. 594 04:27:09,636 --> 04:27:11,600 Thank you for all you do. 595 04:27:11,600 --> 04:27:14,656 Thank you for what you do with the project 596 04:27:14,656 --> 04:27:17,975 opioid, Dr. Tie, everybody because it's 597 04:27:17,975 --> 04:27:19,591 really make an impact. 598 04:27:19,591 --> 04:27:22,998 And I know every dollar you do is going to the fullest amount. 599 04:27:22,998 --> 04:27:26,358 Your team treats people with medical services 600 04:27:26,358 --> 04:27:29,534 with such dignity that they just absolutely love it. 601 04:27:29,534 --> 04:27:31,698 I hear nothing but great things from people who 602 04:27:31,698 --> 04:27:33,718 need health services from you. 603 04:27:33,718 --> 04:27:34,658 >> Thank you. 604 04:27:34,658 --> 04:27:37,464 Mayor, if you'd allow me a minute, 605 04:27:37,464 --> 04:27:39,271 I would like to thank the commissioners 606 04:27:39,271 --> 04:27:40,646 for all the support that you have 607 04:27:40,646 --> 04:27:42,182 provided to Health services. 608 04:27:42,182 --> 04:27:43,849 This may be the last time that we 609 04:27:43,849 --> 04:27:47,278 see each other in this kind of environment for some, 610 04:27:47,278 --> 04:27:53,878 and also, to Byron and Danny for their support and guidance, 611 04:27:56,878 --> 04:27:58,744 and, for your trust. 612 04:27:58,744 --> 04:28:01,758 It's been great to work with you and for you. 613 04:28:01,758 --> 04:28:02,934 >> Thank you. 614 04:28:02,934 --> 04:28:07,686 We are going to move forward to the one and only 615 04:28:07,686 --> 04:28:11,286 Joseph Kunkel from our public works. 616 04:28:11,598 --> 04:28:13,598 >> Thank you, mayor. 617 04:28:16,780 --> 04:28:17,510 Good afternoon. 618 04:28:17,510 --> 04:28:19,382 I'm here to present the Public Works 619 04:28:19,382 --> 04:28:21,782 budget for fiscal year 26, 27. 620 04:28:21,992 --> 04:28:25,118 I have a large part of my public works team 621 04:28:25,118 --> 04:28:28,118 here with me for support. 622 04:28:36,638 --> 04:28:40,280 Our presentation will follow the standard outline 623 04:28:40,280 --> 04:28:43,931 starting with the organizational chart moving to the pros 26, 27 624 04:28:43,931 --> 04:28:44,963 budget, some highlights. 625 04:28:44,963 --> 04:28:47,880 Moving on to the Capital Improvement Program column 626 04:28:47,880 --> 04:28:48,758 and looking at some services at risk, 627 04:28:48,758 --> 04:28:51,814 then finishing up with our summary. 628 04:28:51,814 --> 04:28:54,814 Moving into our organizational chart, 629 04:28:55,578 --> 04:29:00,302 I heard Doctor Pino say he has the best Deputy Director. 630 04:29:00,302 --> 04:29:02,744 He may have one of the best deputy directors, 631 04:29:02,744 --> 04:29:05,488 but I have two of the best deputy 632 04:29:05,488 --> 04:29:07,888 directors in our organization. 633 04:29:09,510 --> 04:29:17,310 The first of those on the chart as you see is Brett Blackadar. 634 04:29:19,789 --> 04:29:24,398 Working on that side is our roads and drainage division, 635 04:29:24,398 --> 04:29:27,349 stormwater management division, Michael Drazek is their manager. 636 04:29:27,349 --> 04:29:30,411 Traffic engineering Division, the well-known Humberto 637 04:29:30,411 --> 04:29:36,820 Castillero as well as our newest member to our leadership team 638 04:29:36,820 --> 04:29:40,882 at Orange County Public Works is Taneya Simpson, 639 04:29:41,798 --> 04:29:47,198 recently replacing Ralph Acre as our support division manager. 640 04:29:47,258 --> 04:29:50,590 The second half of our duo, our top duo 641 04:29:50,590 --> 04:29:54,622 includes our county engineer and Deputy Director Susan Ussach. 642 04:29:54,622 --> 04:29:57,214 Included in her side of the house 643 04:29:57,214 --> 04:29:59,438 is production and permitting. 644 04:29:59,438 --> 04:30:02,838 That has Raymond Williams as manager of our engineering 645 04:30:02,838 --> 04:30:04,811 division, helping our capital projects. 646 04:30:04,811 --> 04:30:08,158 Highway Construction Division is led by Ken Leming. 647 04:30:08,158 --> 04:30:11,348 They do administration for us for those construction projects. 648 04:30:11,348 --> 04:30:14,518 We have developed engineering division which 649 04:30:14,518 --> 04:30:17,814 reviews all the DRC and a lot of permits as well headed 650 04:30:17,814 --> 04:30:19,814 by Dale Mudrak. 651 04:30:20,504 --> 04:30:22,765 Transportation Division who initiates a lot of studies 652 04:30:22,765 --> 04:30:24,182 and does a lot of other activities 653 04:30:24,182 --> 04:30:26,898 is led by Brian Sanders. 654 04:30:26,898 --> 04:30:30,498 At Public Works, we work together 655 04:30:31,262 --> 04:30:34,862 to pursue and complete plan common, 656 04:30:35,171 --> 04:30:38,691 construct, operate, and maintain safe transportation 657 04:30:38,691 --> 04:30:41,509 and stormwater infrastructure framework we are pretty 658 04:30:41,509 --> 04:30:44,918 proud of being able to do all those things on an annual basis 659 04:30:44,918 --> 04:30:47,708 for the Orange County residents. 660 04:30:47,708 --> 04:30:53,108 I think it goes without saying that we work 24/7, 365, 661 04:30:54,858 --> 04:30:58,283 all year, all day, all weekend, and nighttime. 662 04:30:58,283 --> 04:31:00,891 That could be something as simple as attending community 663 04:31:00,891 --> 04:31:04,894 meetings and public get togethers as well as inspection 664 04:31:04,894 --> 04:31:07,575 of projects that go into the night time 665 04:31:07,575 --> 04:31:09,406 or required to do nighttime inspections, 666 04:31:09,406 --> 04:31:12,238 as well as things such as the sinkhole that 667 04:31:12,238 --> 04:31:16,369 occurred in Maitland somewhere around 2 a.m. 668 04:31:16,369 --> 04:31:20,390 Our staff got a call about the sinkhole occurring in Maitland 669 04:31:20,390 --> 04:31:21,798 at a county owned facility. 670 04:31:21,798 --> 04:31:24,146 We responded and went out in the middle of the night 671 04:31:24,146 --> 04:31:26,258 to work on that issue. 672 04:31:26,258 --> 04:31:32,858 Also, one of the other items that is a 24/7 activity is 673 04:31:34,749 --> 04:31:36,362 our traffic signal operations. 674 04:31:36,362 --> 04:31:39,342 Regardless the time of day, or traffic signal technicians 675 04:31:39,342 --> 04:31:44,790 will respond to a downed signal, day or night, after storm. 676 04:31:44,790 --> 04:31:45,611 Will respond. 677 04:31:45,611 --> 04:31:47,111 Any time of the day they will go out 678 04:31:47,111 --> 04:31:49,310 and work on signals and signal operations. 679 04:31:49,310 --> 04:31:52,501 You may not be as aware of that we collaborate 680 04:31:52,501 --> 04:31:54,668 with a number of different divisions and departments 681 04:31:54,668 --> 04:31:55,898 across the county. 682 04:31:55,898 --> 04:32:00,366 For example, Fire Rescue has an optical system 683 04:32:00,366 --> 04:32:02,398 attached to our Signalization. 684 04:32:02,398 --> 04:32:04,538 One there's maintenance and activities required 685 04:32:04,538 --> 04:32:07,118 for that optical system, our traffic 686 04:32:07,118 --> 04:32:10,780 signal ops folks go out and work on those repairs. 687 04:32:10,780 --> 04:32:15,478 Likewise, we have a number of design contract administration 688 04:32:16,816 --> 04:32:18,358 construction administration contracts 689 04:32:18,358 --> 04:32:20,998 that we do for the departments as well, including 690 04:32:20,998 --> 04:32:26,331 parks and recs for their trails, EPT for water quality projects, 691 04:32:26,331 --> 04:32:29,430 and community development block grant projects. 692 04:32:29,430 --> 04:32:32,430 Public works and appliance, amazingly 693 04:32:32,258 --> 04:32:37,658 enough over 27000 311 inquiries coming to public works a year. 694 04:32:40,278 --> 04:32:43,878 That's over 500 per week, 100 is a. 695 04:32:45,805 --> 04:32:48,118 Most of those go to roads and drainage 696 04:32:48,118 --> 04:32:50,780 and also go to traffic and engineering. 697 04:32:50,780 --> 04:32:54,414 But then they get responded to by other divisions. 698 04:32:54,414 --> 04:32:58,366 We still have almost 6000 miles of pavement 699 04:32:58,366 --> 04:33:01,158 that we need to maintain, over 2000 retention ponds, 700 04:33:01,158 --> 04:33:03,638 and we are approaching 700 signals 701 04:33:03,638 --> 04:33:05,938 that are our responsibility. 702 04:33:05,938 --> 04:33:07,798 Our development engineering group 703 04:33:07,798 --> 04:33:10,193 reviews a number of permits as I mentioned. 704 04:33:10,193 --> 04:33:14,158 As the first part of June, they have reviewed 4500 permits. 705 04:33:14,158 --> 04:33:18,358 They're on pace for 6000 this fiscal year. 706 04:33:20,318 --> 04:33:25,398 Moving on to our proposed budget for fiscal year 26, 27, 707 04:33:25,398 --> 04:33:27,998 our funding sources have remained pretty much the same. 708 04:33:27,998 --> 04:33:31,150 We still get a good share of our operations, 709 04:33:31,150 --> 04:33:35,266 almost all our operations monies come from the state sales tax. 710 04:33:35,266 --> 04:33:38,317 You can see that on the right, $186 million. 711 04:33:38,317 --> 04:33:42,984 Our capital program CIP, we use gas tax, 712 04:33:42,984 --> 04:33:45,368 impact fees, miscellaneous construction funds. 713 04:33:45,368 --> 04:33:46,984 And then some CRA funding as well 714 04:33:46,984 --> 04:33:49,984 goes into our capital program. 715 04:33:50,170 --> 04:33:53,568 As for our proposed budget, we're 716 04:33:53,568 --> 04:33:56,182 seeing a slight increase for our personal services 717 04:33:56,182 --> 04:33:59,498 in line with the direction that we are provided. 718 04:33:59,498 --> 04:34:02,990 And we are making up for that additional cost 719 04:34:02,990 --> 04:34:05,526 in the personal services through our operating budget 720 04:34:05,526 --> 04:34:08,698 so that we are resulting in a one 721 04:34:08,698 --> 04:34:11,958 tenth of 1% change for our budget this year 722 04:34:11,958 --> 04:34:15,838 and our staffing will remain the same at 577. 723 04:34:15,838 --> 04:34:20,380 I'm at the distribution of our budget, 724 04:34:21,970 --> 04:34:24,678 it's clear that roads and drainage 725 04:34:24,678 --> 04:34:27,418 is the largest division, has the largest number of staff, 726 04:34:27,418 --> 04:34:29,278 and has the widest range of responsibilities 727 04:34:29,278 --> 04:34:31,139 in the operating side. 728 04:34:31,139 --> 04:34:34,694 They have the largest amount of funding inside of public works. 729 04:34:34,694 --> 04:34:37,780 There are things that they handle 730 04:34:37,780 --> 04:34:42,948 that include paying the street light bills for all the street 731 04:34:42,948 --> 04:34:44,198 lighting across Orange County. 732 04:34:44,198 --> 04:34:45,740 They also have more traditional types 733 04:34:45,740 --> 04:34:48,718 of activities including sidewalk repair, street repair, 734 04:34:48,718 --> 04:34:53,128 maintenance of pipes and culverts comet inlets, cleaning 735 04:34:53,128 --> 04:34:54,808 channels, and small canals. 736 04:34:54,808 --> 04:34:58,534 Also in the higher end of our budget 737 04:34:58,534 --> 04:35:01,188 is stormwater management, traffic engineering, 738 04:35:01,188 --> 04:35:03,578 are the two operations groups. 739 04:35:03,578 --> 04:35:05,978 They have varied responsibilities 740 04:35:06,318 --> 04:35:09,628 outside for the operations and maintenance of all 741 04:35:09,628 --> 04:35:13,295 the infrastructure that we have, as well as 742 04:35:13,295 --> 04:35:15,158 our fiscal and operational support. 743 04:35:15,158 --> 04:35:20,558 They provide funding for all of our intergovernmental indirect 744 04:35:24,391 --> 04:35:28,438 costs as well as the facilities and maintenance 745 04:35:28,438 --> 04:35:32,608 costs for all the locations that we have either our main campus 746 04:35:32,608 --> 04:35:33,988 or our satellite campuses. 747 04:35:33,988 --> 04:35:38,188 The other divisions have a similar responsibility 748 04:35:38,278 --> 04:35:41,878 with personnel services costs as well. 749 04:35:45,758 --> 04:35:48,198 Moving on to some highlights, you 750 04:35:48,198 --> 04:35:50,566 may ask how do we reduce our budget. 751 04:35:50,566 --> 04:35:53,121 There's a couple things we did. 752 04:35:53,121 --> 04:35:54,538 We sharpened our pencil and looked 753 04:35:54,538 --> 04:35:56,380 across a number of different lines, 754 04:35:56,380 --> 04:35:57,622 making smaller changes here and there 755 04:35:57,622 --> 04:35:59,798 to reduce the impacts of our budget. 756 04:35:59,798 --> 04:36:02,791 We look specifically at the rolling stock 757 04:36:02,791 --> 04:36:04,958 and heavy equipment needs that we have for this year 758 04:36:04,958 --> 04:36:07,392 and looked at what we can defer and be able to move 759 04:36:07,392 --> 04:36:08,686 into future budget years. 760 04:36:08,686 --> 04:36:11,478 We looked really closely at the historical expenditures 761 04:36:11,478 --> 04:36:13,206 on our overtime. 762 04:36:13,206 --> 04:36:16,991 In some scenarios we were able to the budgeted over time. 763 04:36:16,991 --> 04:36:19,742 We also looked at travel and training 764 04:36:19,742 --> 04:36:21,758 and reduced some of those costs. 765 04:36:21,758 --> 04:36:24,998 We are focusing on certain leadership training program 766 04:36:24,998 --> 04:36:25,798 this year. 767 04:36:25,798 --> 04:36:29,460 We have an internal public works leadership 768 04:36:29,460 --> 04:36:31,830 program that we are providing to our staff. 769 04:36:31,830 --> 04:36:35,112 That is being done through insight internal 770 04:36:35,112 --> 04:36:36,560 to public works. 771 04:36:36,560 --> 04:36:42,656 A bit of a good news perspective is our in-service contract 772 04:36:42,668 --> 04:36:43,658 pricing. 773 04:36:43,658 --> 04:36:46,658 Last year's budget we anticipated 774 04:36:46,694 --> 04:36:51,140 some of the term construction contracts coming in much higher. 775 04:36:51,140 --> 04:36:53,651 It's hard to predict sometimes what's 776 04:36:53,651 --> 04:36:55,526 going to happen in the construction industry. 777 04:36:55,526 --> 04:36:57,931 We have had a handful of contracts come in 778 04:36:57,931 --> 04:37:00,331 lower than expected, particularly 779 04:37:00,705 --> 04:37:01,981 on the stormwater side. 780 04:37:01,981 --> 04:37:06,118 So as we move forward through those multi-year bids, 781 04:37:06,118 --> 04:37:10,860 we are seeing some reduction in the contract pricing for some 782 04:37:10,860 --> 04:37:14,107 of those term contract activities paramedic also 783 04:37:14,107 --> 04:37:19,507 we were able to utilize our in-house paving operations. 784 04:37:22,918 --> 04:37:23,958 This is a plus. 785 04:37:23,958 --> 04:37:26,558 It's a partnership between our operating side and our capital 786 04:37:26,558 --> 04:37:27,580 side. 787 04:37:27,580 --> 04:37:29,368 We use in-house paving to do some 788 04:37:29,368 --> 04:37:31,958 of the smaller paving projects last year that 789 04:37:31,958 --> 04:37:34,366 received some funding from our capital program. 790 04:37:34,366 --> 04:37:37,966 It saved us about $2.5 million being 791 04:37:39,490 --> 04:37:42,762 able to use our crew as opposed to going out under the contract 792 04:37:42,762 --> 04:37:43,262 price. 793 04:37:43,262 --> 04:37:44,904 A second bonus this year is that we're 794 04:37:44,904 --> 04:37:46,446 going to be using our in-house paving 795 04:37:46,446 --> 04:37:50,700 crew to pay for the parking lot in our main complex. 796 04:37:50,700 --> 04:37:52,251 That should result in some savings 797 04:37:52,251 --> 04:37:57,380 to that capital expense on the facility side. 798 04:37:57,380 --> 04:38:01,348 You may also have heard about this modular roundabout 799 04:38:01,348 --> 04:38:07,348 that we installed recently in Wyndham Lakes at Rodrick Circle. 800 04:38:07,678 --> 04:38:10,958 It's the largest in Florida and the second 801 04:38:10,958 --> 04:38:12,198 in the state of Florida. 802 04:38:12,198 --> 04:38:17,310 It went in in about three weeks as opposed 803 04:38:17,310 --> 04:38:20,310 to multiple months for installation. 804 04:38:20,331 --> 04:38:23,974 So the installation time was much shorter. 805 04:38:23,974 --> 04:38:27,422 The total costs were about half compared 806 04:38:27,422 --> 04:38:29,814 to a regular construction of a roundabout. 807 04:38:29,814 --> 04:38:32,294 There is some time for fabrication. 808 04:38:32,294 --> 04:38:35,414 But once it's installed, it gets installed very quickly. 809 04:38:35,414 --> 04:38:38,518 And that quick installation reduces disruption 810 04:38:38,518 --> 04:38:43,318 for the neighborhood when the roundabout is installed. 811 04:38:44,404 --> 04:38:48,718 So we were proud of this approach and innovative idea. 812 04:38:48,718 --> 04:38:51,508 Something else that we've done recently 813 04:38:51,508 --> 04:38:54,730 is that we have combined projects 814 04:38:54,730 --> 04:38:59,893 as part of a road resurfacing program, we went in last year 815 04:38:59,893 --> 04:39:04,693 and did a road diet design and installed 816 04:39:05,998 --> 04:39:09,838 some of the other items associated with road diet, 817 04:39:09,838 --> 04:39:12,798 including access control and pedestrian crossings, 818 04:39:12,798 --> 04:39:15,662 then use the resurfacing to finish off the project. 819 04:39:15,662 --> 04:39:17,966 We combined two projects into one 820 04:39:17,966 --> 04:39:20,366 for some significant efficiencies 821 04:39:20,664 --> 04:39:23,380 with that Rio Grande project. 822 04:39:23,380 --> 04:39:25,766 And we continue to look at those types of activities 823 04:39:25,766 --> 04:39:28,766 in our division and department. 824 04:39:29,718 --> 04:39:32,686 Lastly, we also want to highlight 825 04:39:32,686 --> 04:39:35,518 if you will the funding challenges that are still there. 826 04:39:35,518 --> 04:39:38,238 We recently got a FEMA grant. 827 04:39:38,238 --> 04:39:42,109 We weren't notified -- it was over a year ago that we were 828 04:39:42,109 --> 04:39:44,878 going to get some funding for the Bonnybrook subdivision pump 829 04:39:44,878 --> 04:39:45,378 station. 830 04:39:45,378 --> 04:39:48,358 It took quite a while for that funding to come forward. 831 04:39:48,358 --> 04:39:51,358 FEMA funding is still unpredictable, 832 04:39:51,678 --> 04:39:56,168 but we will continue to look for opportunities to apply 833 04:39:56,168 --> 04:39:58,518 for those types of grants. 834 04:39:58,518 --> 04:40:00,811 Additionally we have applied for some safe streets 835 04:40:00,811 --> 04:40:03,762 for all and some other transportation and safety 836 04:40:03,762 --> 04:40:04,414 grants. 837 04:40:04,414 --> 04:40:07,414 Those have become extremely competitive. 838 04:40:07,678 --> 04:40:14,718 We thought we had a very good request last year for our safety 839 04:40:14,718 --> 04:40:18,918 program for our high injury network projects. 840 04:40:19,971 --> 04:40:23,966 At the end of the day, we were told that the grant request 841 04:40:23,966 --> 04:40:25,158 was just too much. 842 04:40:25,158 --> 04:40:27,726 There's too many requests going around. 843 04:40:27,726 --> 04:40:31,574 We need to look at applying for smaller grants, which 844 04:40:31,574 --> 04:40:32,731 we did this year. 845 04:40:32,731 --> 04:40:34,424 We'll see how that turns out. 846 04:40:34,424 --> 04:40:38,510 I don't think it needs to be said that we have been looking 847 04:40:38,510 --> 04:40:40,211 for dedicated funding sources for transit 848 04:40:40,211 --> 04:40:45,800 for a number of years now, as well as looking for funding 849 04:40:45,800 --> 04:40:49,958 to meet the funding gaps that we have in our transportation 850 04:40:49,958 --> 04:40:50,614 program. 851 04:40:50,614 --> 04:40:55,651 Moving on to that transportation program, our capital improvement 852 04:40:55,651 --> 04:40:59,251 projects, we're requesting $264.4 million this year. 853 04:40:59,438 --> 04:41:02,931 And here is the split of the projects 854 04:41:02,931 --> 04:41:04,558 into different categories. 855 04:41:04,558 --> 04:41:09,158 Once again be in roadway major projects are the big projects. 856 04:41:09,158 --> 04:41:14,258 The insanity of the funding inside our proposed program. 857 04:41:14,258 --> 04:41:19,658 We also include 44-ish million dollars for our resurfacing 858 04:41:19,918 --> 04:41:23,152 program, about $1 million more than last year, 859 04:41:23,152 --> 04:41:27,952 as well as the drainage improvements in ATSP. 860 04:41:30,426 --> 04:41:32,460 Program fundings are about the same. 861 04:41:32,460 --> 04:41:37,446 Note that our traffic calming, traffic signals, bike program, 862 04:41:38,886 --> 04:41:41,918 as well as sidewalks program is higher this year. 863 04:41:41,918 --> 04:41:44,898 Those two groupings of projects are 864 04:41:44,898 --> 04:41:48,602 receiving about $19 million more than we did last year. 865 04:41:48,602 --> 04:41:53,700 Over the course of all of our interactions for any 866 04:41:53,700 --> 04:41:55,648 of the infrastructure for sales tax initiatives, 867 04:41:55,648 --> 04:42:00,448 we consistently heard the need for sidewalk, ADA, 868 04:42:01,400 --> 04:42:04,400 and bike and ped safety. 869 04:42:04,677 --> 04:42:06,802 We responded with some additional funding for those 870 04:42:06,802 --> 04:42:07,302 this year. 871 04:42:07,302 --> 04:42:11,502 A new mandatory part of our budget 872 04:42:12,238 --> 04:42:13,778 process going to the transportation 873 04:42:13,778 --> 04:42:16,178 Mobility Advisory Commission, Transmac. 874 04:42:16,678 --> 04:42:19,208 We refer to them this year and they did a recommendation 875 04:42:19,208 --> 04:42:24,748 on March 12th to recommend approval of the capital program 876 04:42:24,748 --> 04:42:26,748 that we presented. 877 04:42:27,241 --> 04:42:29,574 That came over to the BCC sometime in March. 878 04:42:29,574 --> 04:42:31,958 They also followed up with a submittal 879 04:42:31,958 --> 04:42:34,701 for some recommendations to BCC. 880 04:42:34,701 --> 04:42:37,888 One of the things that has been discussed consistently 881 04:42:37,888 --> 04:42:42,880 with Transmac has been prioritization and project 882 04:42:42,211 --> 04:42:45,244 phasing, project scheduling for the capital program. 883 04:42:45,244 --> 04:42:50,358 So we are looking at coming back sometime this year 884 04:42:50,358 --> 04:42:53,358 with a presentation in BCC. 885 04:42:53,991 --> 04:42:56,708 We are scheduling a meeting with Transmac 886 04:42:56,708 --> 04:43:01,508 in August to go over the prioritization proposal 887 04:43:02,134 --> 04:43:05,734 that we are putting in place. 888 04:43:06,798 --> 04:43:10,152 Requested and we are looking at a matrix that 889 04:43:10,152 --> 04:43:16,152 is going to utilize current data to address the necessity 890 04:43:16,818 --> 04:43:20,342 and prioritization of not only our major projects 891 04:43:20,342 --> 04:43:24,531 but also our programs, bridge program, sidewalk 892 04:43:24,531 --> 04:43:28,694 program, traffic safety program, and Vision zero 893 04:43:28,694 --> 04:43:30,678 as well as traffic calming. 894 04:43:30,678 --> 04:43:32,845 We're going to be looking at all those programs 895 04:43:32,845 --> 04:43:34,678 and coming up with some prioritization based 896 04:43:34,678 --> 04:43:37,864 on current actual data, then utilizing that 897 04:43:37,864 --> 04:43:39,833 as part of our future planning program 898 04:43:39,833 --> 04:43:44,318 as well as to come up with a more accurate projection 899 04:43:44,318 --> 04:43:46,318 of project's schedule. 900 04:43:48,877 --> 04:43:52,578 Moving into the remainder of the capital program, 901 04:43:52,578 --> 04:43:55,134 I want to start off with some of our outside partners 902 04:43:55,134 --> 04:43:57,573 before I get into the projects that we have internally. 903 04:43:57,573 --> 04:44:00,782 We have a number of partnership projects with dot, 904 04:44:00,782 --> 04:44:03,531 the first being State Road 50. 905 04:44:03,531 --> 04:44:07,622 This is an agreement that we entered into, 906 04:44:07,622 --> 04:44:10,417 a reimbursement agreement we entered into with Dot that 907 04:44:10,417 --> 04:44:13,613 will advance portions of State Road 52 years, 908 04:44:13,613 --> 04:44:17,997 and then consolidate that time frame for the construction 909 04:44:17,997 --> 04:44:20,358 of those improvements out on State Road 50, 910 04:44:20,358 --> 04:44:23,287 and it will result in a reimbursement 911 04:44:23,287 --> 04:44:24,531 back to Orange County. 912 04:44:24,531 --> 04:44:27,550 We also have a number of projects. 913 04:44:27,550 --> 04:44:31,718 Those are local agency program projects with the Dot. 914 04:44:31,718 --> 04:44:35,138 Lab projects generally consist of trails and intersection 915 04:44:35,138 --> 04:44:38,138 projects that we work on. 916 04:44:38,377 --> 04:44:41,902 The majority of the funding is in the trails program. 917 04:44:41,902 --> 04:44:43,957 You may recall we recently double 918 04:44:43,957 --> 04:44:46,478 dashed there was recently finished 919 04:44:46,478 --> 04:44:51,438 the Apopka, Lake Apopka Extension Trail in West Orange 920 04:44:51,438 --> 04:44:53,558 County as well as the last segment 921 04:44:53,558 --> 04:44:57,630 of the Shingle Creek Trail coming forward with Lap funding. 922 04:44:57,630 --> 04:45:01,930 We have some vertical projects with private development, 923 04:45:01,930 --> 04:45:03,493 new independence is underway. 924 04:45:03,858 --> 04:45:06,358 It's fairly far along and we'll be 925 04:45:06,358 --> 04:45:08,264 I'm sure completed either way this year, 926 04:45:08,264 --> 04:45:12,384 first part of next year, as well as a very desperately 927 04:45:12,384 --> 04:45:15,134 needed Fleming through an extension and connection 928 04:45:15,134 --> 04:45:19,790 to Orange County to support a part of Orange County and Lake 929 04:45:19,790 --> 04:45:20,294 County. 930 04:45:20,294 --> 04:45:22,266 Moving on to our resurfacing program Palma 931 04:45:22,266 --> 04:45:24,864 I will start off the CIP there. 932 04:45:24,864 --> 04:45:27,624 You may remember last year I went into a long discussion 933 04:45:27,624 --> 04:45:30,511 about resurfacing and compared it to the roof of your house 934 04:45:30,511 --> 04:45:32,441 and a whole bunch of other things, 935 04:45:32,441 --> 04:45:36,230 but need to just say that all those things still apply. 936 04:45:36,230 --> 04:45:38,711 If you remember that, kudos to you. 937 04:45:38,711 --> 04:45:41,280 I wanted to identify one thing particularly. 938 04:45:41,280 --> 04:45:46,428 That is milling and resurfacing is around $250,000 per lane 939 04:45:47,880 --> 04:45:49,880 mile. 940 04:45:49,118 --> 04:45:50,584 Recycling is a step up. 941 04:45:50,584 --> 04:45:53,691 That comes up to about 400,000 per lane mile. 942 04:45:53,691 --> 04:45:58,318 If we get to degradation that you see in that left corner, 943 04:45:58,318 --> 04:46:02,640 upper right left picture, a lot of times 944 04:46:02,640 --> 04:46:04,390 you are going into full depth replacement. 945 04:46:04,390 --> 04:46:07,998 That comes out to be about three times the cost. 946 04:46:07,998 --> 04:46:10,286 The whole vision of the resurfacing program 947 04:46:10,286 --> 04:46:13,534 is not to get to that level of degradation, 948 04:46:13,534 --> 04:46:18,246 to try to address these resurfacing as it comes forward. 949 04:46:18,246 --> 04:46:24,246 This year we are planning 175 lane miles for fiscal year 27. 950 04:46:24,364 --> 04:46:28,331 We are still not getting close to reaching that almost 400 lane 951 04:46:28,331 --> 04:46:31,380 miles to hit that 15 year cycle, which 952 04:46:31,380 --> 04:46:33,438 is desired industry standard. 953 04:46:34,677 --> 04:46:37,898 Right now we're looking at about a 34 year cycle 954 04:46:37,898 --> 04:46:40,718 to resurface all our roadways. 955 04:46:40,718 --> 04:46:42,814 However with this upcoming fiscal year, 956 04:46:42,814 --> 04:46:45,858 will be looking into other preservation treatments as well 957 04:46:45,858 --> 04:46:50,582 to see if we can possibly extend and expand the budget 958 04:46:50,582 --> 04:46:54,782 for the resurfacing program here in -- 959 04:46:55,174 --> 04:46:59,374 talking about costs with resurfacing and construction 960 04:46:59,478 --> 04:47:03,898 in general, this slide shows the cost increases 961 04:47:03,898 --> 04:47:09,158 over the last 5 or 6 years or so for our road program. 962 04:47:09,158 --> 04:47:14,308 This is a standard two lane improvement or modification 963 04:47:14,308 --> 04:47:17,908 with design, study, right of way, 964 04:47:18,558 --> 04:47:20,195 mitigation, and construction. 965 04:47:20,195 --> 04:47:21,862 You see over the last five years there's 966 04:47:21,862 --> 04:47:26,620 about a 72% increase in the total costs. 967 04:47:26,678 --> 04:47:29,214 Not too surprised that the last two years, 968 04:47:29,214 --> 04:47:32,814 you're looking at about a 30% increase. 969 04:47:34,703 --> 04:47:36,701 However if you look at resurfacing and this 970 04:47:36,701 --> 04:47:38,838 is where you can see the big jump that occurs. 971 04:47:38,838 --> 04:47:42,860 One of the big challenges that we have with resurfacing. 972 04:47:42,860 --> 04:47:45,173 That is over the last 3 or 4 years, 973 04:47:45,173 --> 04:47:47,548 there's been a tremendous increase in the cost associated 974 04:47:47,548 --> 04:47:49,548 with resurfacing. 975 04:47:50,478 --> 04:47:55,278 It's one and a half times the cost 976 04:47:55,624 --> 04:47:59,824 from 2019 and over double the cost from 2021. 977 04:48:02,910 --> 04:48:06,358 There has been a tremendous rise in the resurfacing program cost 978 04:48:06,358 --> 04:48:08,358 associated with resurfacing. 979 04:48:09,558 --> 04:48:13,152 With resurfacing behind us, now I'm 980 04:48:13,152 --> 04:48:16,280 going to look at the major roadway program. 981 04:48:16,280 --> 04:48:19,982 I'm going to start off with identifying the projects that we 982 04:48:19,982 --> 04:48:21,608 have funding available and projects 983 04:48:21,608 --> 04:48:24,408 that are either moving forward or currently in construction. 984 04:48:24,408 --> 04:48:28,891 E trail is coming to a close and should 985 04:48:28,891 --> 04:48:30,437 be coming up this fiscal year. 986 04:48:30,437 --> 04:48:32,270 All American Boulevard and Kennedy Boulevard 987 04:48:32,270 --> 04:48:35,318 is a joint project on the west side. 988 04:48:35,318 --> 04:48:37,638 That has received notice to proceed 989 04:48:37,638 --> 04:48:40,400 and has started some work. 990 04:48:40,400 --> 04:48:44,204 As well as Ficquette Road in Western 991 04:48:46,439 --> 04:48:48,640 Orange County has started construction. 992 04:48:48,640 --> 04:48:51,800 Later this year we expect Reims Road is going out 993 04:48:51,800 --> 04:48:53,575 to bid, had gone out to bid. 994 04:48:53,575 --> 04:48:54,984 We expect it to start this year. 995 04:48:54,984 --> 04:48:56,798 And then the Taft Vineland Road project 996 04:48:56,798 --> 04:48:58,678 which we are collaborating with dot on 997 04:48:58,678 --> 04:49:01,748 will also start this fiscal year. 998 04:49:01,748 --> 04:49:06,505 We're looking at projects that are in the design phase, 999 04:49:06,505 --> 04:49:10,105 we have orange Avenue, Vineland Road, 1000 04:49:10,838 --> 04:49:13,966 and Innovation Way are all in their design phase 1001 04:49:13,966 --> 04:49:16,978 and we'll continue to get funding for the design phase. 1002 04:49:16,978 --> 04:49:20,518 Lake Underhill is a project that we are bringing back 1003 04:49:20,518 --> 04:49:21,982 and initiating this year. 1004 04:49:21,982 --> 04:49:28,582 And then en oda road, we have our phase one contract 1005 04:49:29,540 --> 04:49:33,198 for design to occur this fiscal year. 1006 04:49:33,198 --> 04:49:35,163 Projects that have moved along and are either 1007 04:49:35,163 --> 04:49:37,798 in right of way phase or going into the right of way phase 1008 04:49:37,798 --> 04:49:42,158 this year include Avalon Road, Woodbury Road, Kennedy Boulevard 1009 04:49:42,158 --> 04:49:47,558 East, and Tradeshow Boulevard down by the Convention Center. 1010 04:50:10,173 --> 04:50:12,173 [audio out] 1011 04:51:33,278 --> 04:51:36,408 We have I know what's going on between stormwater drainage. 1012 04:51:36,408 --> 04:51:40,474 I listed a few that are going on this year that are newer. 1013 04:51:40,474 --> 04:51:42,182 Cottondale drive is in East Orange County 1014 04:51:42,182 --> 04:51:45,180 and we are looking to have that be under construction shortly 1015 04:51:45,180 --> 04:51:48,131 after the start of the fiscal year. 1016 04:51:48,131 --> 04:51:50,471 Orlo Vista drainage, we have some associated 1017 04:51:50,471 --> 04:51:52,172 secondary drainage in that area that 1018 04:51:52,172 --> 04:51:54,718 is going to be a project this next fiscal year 1019 04:51:54,718 --> 04:51:58,663 as well as replacing Oakland Terrace in the Doctor Phillips 1020 04:51:58,663 --> 04:51:59,163 area. 1021 04:51:59,163 --> 04:52:01,523 We have seen some drainage in the past. 1022 04:52:01,523 --> 04:52:02,948 We have a number of other projects 1023 04:52:02,948 --> 04:52:06,658 across the county that are still in play that I did not list. 1024 04:52:06,658 --> 04:52:10,264 We have our major watershed plan updates moving forward 1025 04:52:10,264 --> 04:52:11,406 and coming to a close. 1026 04:52:11,406 --> 04:52:14,278 And then we have stormwater pump station 1027 04:52:14,278 --> 04:52:17,171 upgrade that I mentioned earlier in the Bonnybrook subdivision. 1028 04:52:17,171 --> 04:52:19,571 Overall there's about $20 million 1029 04:52:19,614 --> 04:52:25,140 in those drainage improvements we have and master study. 1030 04:52:25,626 --> 04:52:27,838 Looking at another portion of our safety 1031 04:52:27,838 --> 04:52:30,846 program, the intersection sidewalk and Ada. 1032 04:52:30,846 --> 04:52:33,702 Including in this one, we have a couple of bridges. 1033 04:52:33,702 --> 04:52:36,862 The one in note coming forward is designed for the I drive 1034 04:52:36,862 --> 04:52:37,798 pedestrian bridge. 1035 04:52:37,798 --> 04:52:42,798 That we have the Rock Springs Road complete Street project, 1036 04:52:42,798 --> 04:52:44,598 which is slightly different. 1037 04:52:44,598 --> 04:52:46,980 It came through the MPO. 1038 04:52:46,980 --> 04:52:47,830 There was some grant funding for that. 1039 04:52:47,830 --> 04:52:49,718 It's a lap project. 1040 04:52:49,718 --> 04:52:51,328 That's something in the Apopka area 1041 04:52:51,328 --> 04:52:53,411 we're looking at some intersection improvements as 1042 04:52:53,411 --> 04:52:54,703 well as some access management. 1043 04:52:54,703 --> 04:52:57,698 That was a through a study by Metro Plan Network moving 1044 04:52:57,698 --> 04:52:58,698 forward to construction. 1045 04:52:58,698 --> 04:53:02,742 We have our county wide programs with sidewalk Ada 1046 04:53:02,742 --> 04:53:05,238 and the median tree program. 1047 04:53:05,238 --> 04:53:09,358 Certainly last but not least is our accelerated Transportation 1048 04:53:09,358 --> 04:53:11,178 Safety program. 1049 04:53:11,178 --> 04:53:15,766 They'll be getting an update a little bit later in August. 1050 04:53:15,766 --> 04:53:19,860 We are calling it mid-term, but it's a little bit more 1051 04:53:19,860 --> 04:53:20,461 than midterm that'll be providing 1052 04:53:20,461 --> 04:53:22,158 an update on the activities associated 1053 04:53:22,158 --> 04:53:26,218 with our accelerated safety transportation safety program. 1054 04:53:26,218 --> 04:53:31,172 For next year we are looking at providing some lighting sidewalk 1055 04:53:31,172 --> 04:53:31,672 projects. 1056 04:53:31,672 --> 04:53:34,815 And then we are including funding 1057 04:53:34,815 --> 04:53:37,215 for the Seidel roundabout. 1058 04:53:37,617 --> 04:53:40,818 It is finished and going through construction right now, 1059 04:53:40,818 --> 04:53:44,418 that will be funded next year. 1060 04:53:45,324 --> 04:53:49,584 And then some traffic calming up in the tangerine area. 1061 04:53:49,584 --> 04:53:52,518 That is what we have. 1062 04:53:52,518 --> 04:53:56,443 This slide tells what we don't have. 1063 04:53:56,443 --> 04:54:00,478 This is a fiscal year CIP shortfall. 1064 04:54:00,478 --> 04:54:02,375 There is a lot of information on here. 1065 04:54:02,375 --> 04:54:05,550 We try to squeeze the next five years onto one slide. 1066 04:54:05,550 --> 04:54:09,986 I think the big takeaway from here is that there is some gray 1067 04:54:09,986 --> 04:54:13,695 -- and it's supposed to be blue, but it turned out to be gray 1068 04:54:13,695 --> 04:54:14,338 on the slide. 1069 04:54:14,338 --> 04:54:18,780 Funding that we have in place for anticipated budget 1070 04:54:18,780 --> 04:54:23,502 as well as the shortfalls when we look at the projected needs. 1071 04:54:23,502 --> 04:54:26,542 There's a lot of numbers and items there 1072 04:54:26,542 --> 04:54:29,758 but you've seen a lot of this information previously either 1073 04:54:29,758 --> 04:54:35,758 in our stormwater utility fee or the infrastructure Sales Tax 1074 04:54:36,114 --> 04:54:36,614 initiative. 1075 04:54:36,614 --> 04:54:38,752 Moving on to the next slide, this 1076 04:54:38,752 --> 04:54:41,958 may be a little more easy to follow. 1077 04:54:41,958 --> 04:54:46,550 This is the total budget shortfall by fiscal year. 1078 04:54:46,550 --> 04:54:51,910 You can see that the total budgets of available monies 1079 04:54:51,910 --> 04:54:56,118 are going down as we progress into fiscal year 31. 1080 04:54:56,118 --> 04:54:58,918 And then you can see that the total project 1081 04:54:58,918 --> 04:55:04,918 funding is going slightly down over the five year process. 1082 04:55:05,279 --> 04:55:10,679 But most scary is that the red shortfall increases 1083 04:55:14,278 --> 04:55:16,678 every year year over year. 1084 04:55:16,678 --> 04:55:20,224 As we move forward with our CIP, we 1085 04:55:20,224 --> 04:55:22,491 are seeing our funding go down. 1086 04:55:22,491 --> 04:55:24,110 We are seeing the shortfalls increase. 1087 04:55:24,110 --> 04:55:28,570 And we are seeing the construction costs for projects 1088 04:55:28,570 --> 04:55:30,570 go up. 1089 04:55:31,958 --> 04:55:34,335 This is looking again at the same data 1090 04:55:34,335 --> 04:55:36,753 but looking at it by the categories. 1091 04:55:36,753 --> 04:55:41,228 What I did was I combined roadway safety with Vision Zero. 1092 04:55:41,228 --> 04:55:44,291 Those two categories together to help things out. 1093 04:55:44,291 --> 04:55:46,666 You can see that over the next few years 1094 04:55:46,666 --> 04:55:48,958 we are looking at making roadway safety 1095 04:55:48,958 --> 04:55:51,838 and the Vision Zero projects a priority by providing 1096 04:55:51,838 --> 04:55:52,838 some additional funding. 1097 04:55:52,838 --> 04:55:55,702 However, you can look at the stormwater capital 1098 04:55:55,702 --> 04:55:58,240 and see that there is a huge shortfall. 1099 04:55:58,240 --> 04:56:01,624 That is one of the reasons why we were looking at pursuing 1100 04:56:01,624 --> 04:56:03,180 that stormwater utility fee. 1101 04:56:03,180 --> 04:56:06,218 You can look at these shortfalls on the roadway 1102 04:56:06,218 --> 04:56:07,706 and the rehabilitation projects. 1103 04:56:07,706 --> 04:56:10,766 That was the reason we were looking 1104 04:56:10,766 --> 04:56:13,368 to pursue separate funding or dedicated funding 1105 04:56:13,368 --> 04:56:15,768 for the transportation program. 1106 04:56:16,958 --> 04:56:19,736 With those funding shortfalls, here 1107 04:56:19,736 --> 04:56:22,380 are some of the projects that are not moving forward 1108 04:56:22,380 --> 04:56:24,380 and will be on hold. 1109 04:56:24,380 --> 04:56:29,780 The first one, projects that have started or completed 1110 04:56:33,918 --> 04:56:37,342 study, but there is no funding for moving forward 1111 04:56:37,342 --> 04:56:39,658 and the design right of way or construction. 1112 04:56:39,658 --> 04:56:41,158 That includes the Western portion 1113 04:56:41,158 --> 04:56:47,158 of Lake Underhill, Chickasaw to icon trail, Hancock, icon trail, 1114 04:56:52,558 --> 04:56:56,243 the tiny road, Edgewater drive study, and the Valencia College 1115 04:56:56,243 --> 04:56:56,998 Lane project. 1116 04:56:56,998 --> 04:56:59,918 Our Hiawassee road pedestrian safety study currently 1117 04:56:59,918 --> 04:57:03,480 is not funded in our program. 1118 04:57:03,480 --> 04:57:07,848 Looking at projects that design has been complete 1119 04:57:08,518 --> 04:57:11,581 or is underway, but does not have 1120 04:57:11,581 --> 04:57:14,928 funding for right of way or construction, 1121 04:57:14,928 --> 04:57:17,168 that includes those eastern portions 1122 04:57:17,168 --> 04:57:21,968 of Richard Crotty Parkway, and then Schofield Road. 1123 04:57:25,622 --> 04:57:28,673 We have funding for design but we have not 1124 04:57:28,673 --> 04:57:34,958 put funding for right of way or construction as at this point. 1125 04:57:34,958 --> 04:57:38,771 We have not been directed to do such. 1126 04:57:38,771 --> 04:57:40,740 We were stuck with that. 1127 04:57:40,740 --> 04:57:42,658 And then those projects that there's 1128 04:57:42,658 --> 04:57:44,202 either right of way in place or right 1129 04:57:44,202 --> 04:57:46,619 of way being acquired in the city and designs are complete 1130 04:57:46,619 --> 04:57:50,109 but there is no funding for construction 1131 04:57:50,109 --> 04:57:53,501 is, again, that first part of Richard Crotty Parkway. 1132 04:57:53,501 --> 04:57:55,918 We've only funded up through that right of way acquisition 1133 04:57:55,918 --> 04:57:56,651 process. 1134 04:57:56,651 --> 04:57:59,818 Kennedy Boulevard East is in a similar scenario 1135 04:57:59,818 --> 04:58:02,131 where there is funding for future right of way 1136 04:58:02,131 --> 04:58:04,278 but no funding for construction. 1137 04:58:04,278 --> 04:58:06,438 And Texas Avenue and Woodbury Road 1138 04:58:06,438 --> 04:58:09,368 both are in that same funding situation. 1139 04:58:09,368 --> 04:58:14,168 Looking at the potential program services at risk, 1140 04:58:15,912 --> 04:58:17,592 I don't think this is a new slide. 1141 04:58:17,592 --> 04:58:20,478 I know I've seen it a number of times today. 1142 04:58:20,478 --> 04:58:24,558 I don't need to do a deep explanation other than these are 1143 04:58:24,558 --> 04:58:26,691 not necessarily my recommendations 1144 04:58:26,691 --> 04:58:31,728 but just potential items that can be problematic or create 1145 04:58:31,728 --> 04:58:37,998 some issues or areas that may be possible for some funding 1146 04:58:37,998 --> 04:58:38,690 reductions. 1147 04:58:38,690 --> 04:58:44,690 We looked at some very specific items inside public works 1148 04:58:44,806 --> 04:58:47,740 and our mowing schedule over the years. 1149 04:58:47,740 --> 04:58:49,198 We've increased our mowing schedule 1150 04:58:49,198 --> 04:58:53,242 on landscape activities and our medians and canals 1151 04:58:53,242 --> 04:58:56,538 to where we are on about a two week schedule. 1152 04:58:56,538 --> 04:59:01,338 We can certainly look at modifying that schedule 1153 04:59:01,702 --> 04:59:06,484 to reduce the costs but extend the mowing periods 1154 04:59:06,484 --> 04:59:10,838 so then you would have higher grass in the summertime 1155 04:59:10,838 --> 04:59:16,238 when you get into those 2020 or 2024 business days cycles 1156 04:59:19,398 --> 04:59:20,980 for mowing. 1157 04:59:20,980 --> 04:59:22,498 Our road resurfacing program is not something 1158 04:59:22,498 --> 04:59:24,678 that I certainly want to move forward, 1159 04:59:24,678 --> 04:59:28,818 but it is something that we would look at if we had to. 1160 04:59:28,818 --> 04:59:31,222 And that would go into that paving cycle 1161 04:59:31,222 --> 04:59:32,798 that we've talked about. 1162 04:59:32,798 --> 04:59:38,463 One item that we provide some -- some funding comes through some 1163 04:59:38,463 --> 04:59:44,180 of our programs is for LYNX, mainly in the I-drive area. 1164 04:59:44,180 --> 04:59:45,958 But something that could be certainly impacted 1165 04:59:45,958 --> 04:59:52,158 would be the County Ride transit services, reduced and or impact 1166 04:59:52,158 --> 04:59:54,158 their service schedules. 1167 04:59:54,784 --> 04:59:58,984 Capital drainage, that's one of the areas 1168 04:59:59,311 --> 05:00:02,348 that we've identified a fairly large program using 1169 05:00:02,348 --> 05:00:04,748 the stormwater utility fee. 1170 05:00:05,668 --> 05:00:08,538 If there is funding issues associated 1171 05:00:08,538 --> 05:00:10,878 with that, that could extend some 1172 05:00:10,878 --> 05:00:13,408 of those timelines for those capital drainage 1173 05:00:13,408 --> 05:00:15,188 projects to move forward. 1174 05:00:15,188 --> 05:00:18,574 Vision Zero and sidewalks I would hate to touch, 1175 05:00:18,574 --> 05:00:25,494 but those are items that are out there that funding is areas 1176 05:00:25,494 --> 05:00:28,504 that could be impacted as well. 1177 05:00:28,504 --> 05:00:32,180 Those would be based on future evaluations. 1178 05:00:32,180 --> 05:00:35,711 And then if we get into a directed scenario 1179 05:00:35,711 --> 05:00:41,180 that we had to do personnel cuts and make some modifications 1180 05:00:41,180 --> 05:00:45,220 to our Manning tables, we would look 1181 05:00:45,220 --> 05:00:47,580 to evaluate those vacant positions 1182 05:00:47,580 --> 05:00:48,310 that we have available. 1183 05:00:48,310 --> 05:00:51,311 Most of our vacant positions have 1184 05:00:51,311 --> 05:00:54,798 to be in roads and drainage and stormwater. 1185 05:00:54,798 --> 05:00:56,960 As we cut those positions, we may 1186 05:00:56,960 --> 05:00:59,392 need to consolidate some of our maintenance units 1187 05:00:59,392 --> 05:01:03,432 to provide services and full crews to be 1188 05:01:03,432 --> 05:01:05,924 able to find at least an acceptable level of services 1189 05:01:05,924 --> 05:01:08,310 as best we can. 1190 05:01:08,310 --> 05:01:12,831 That would impact the timing associated with those 27,000 311 1191 05:01:16,788 --> 05:01:19,284 requests that come into public works every year. 1192 05:01:19,284 --> 05:01:21,784 There are a couple of things that we have identified that we 1193 05:01:21,784 --> 05:01:25,469 didn't think really cannot be reduced or totally reduced. 1194 05:01:25,469 --> 05:01:28,200 That would be our Ada improvements. 1195 05:01:28,200 --> 05:01:31,552 We typically have to identify that we have an Ada 1196 05:01:31,552 --> 05:01:34,822 program in place to be eligible for the federal funding 1197 05:01:34,822 --> 05:01:37,780 that we get through LAP. 1198 05:01:37,780 --> 05:01:39,558 Our bridge maintenance program, we 1199 05:01:39,558 --> 05:01:41,933 are not going to compromise bridge maintenance and public 1200 05:01:41,933 --> 05:01:43,112 safety in any regards. 1201 05:01:43,112 --> 05:01:45,678 If we do have contractual obligations 1202 05:01:45,678 --> 05:01:50,548 particularly for construction, I suppose they could be canceled. 1203 05:01:50,548 --> 05:01:52,478 That would be disastrous to stop a project 1204 05:01:52,478 --> 05:01:54,780 in the middle of construction. 1205 05:01:54,780 --> 05:01:56,793 So we would say that those need to occur as well. 1206 05:01:56,793 --> 05:02:00,118 And then one other item that came up to my mind 1207 05:02:00,118 --> 05:02:03,798 is that we would not compromise our response 1208 05:02:03,798 --> 05:02:06,198 time for signal issues. 1209 05:02:06,518 --> 05:02:09,118 If there's a signal that is out and it 1210 05:02:09,118 --> 05:02:13,318 gets routed to our traffic operations team, 1211 05:02:14,158 --> 05:02:17,733 then they would respond any time of day or out 1212 05:02:17,733 --> 05:02:18,566 of time or whatever. 1213 05:02:18,566 --> 05:02:22,268 That would be an area that we would not want to reduce. 1214 05:02:22,268 --> 05:02:26,468 In summary, our operating budget is 191 million. 1215 05:02:26,668 --> 05:02:30,238 Our capital project budget is 264 million. 1216 05:02:30,238 --> 05:02:32,638 No new positions requested. 1217 05:02:32,691 --> 05:02:36,291 Budget growth is one tenth of 1%. 1218 05:02:37,631 --> 05:02:39,600 We're going to continue to invest 1219 05:02:39,600 --> 05:02:41,118 in resurfacing as best we can. 1220 05:02:41,118 --> 05:02:43,632 Safety, mobility, drainage are priorities for us. 1221 05:02:43,632 --> 05:02:45,504 We'll also look at maximizing efficiency 1222 05:02:45,504 --> 05:02:47,578 through either innovative technology 1223 05:02:47,578 --> 05:02:51,888 such as the module roundabouts, or looking at some 1224 05:02:51,888 --> 05:02:53,518 of the collaborative projects. 1225 05:02:53,518 --> 05:02:57,118 That is my presentation for today. 1226 05:03:01,759 --> 05:03:04,159 >> With that, let's see. 1227 05:03:06,374 --> 05:03:08,774 They all lit up. 1228 05:03:15,281 --> 05:03:17,198 >> Everybody likes to talk about public works. 1229 05:03:17,198 --> 05:03:19,798 >> Usually I look to my right first because Commissioner 1230 05:03:19,798 --> 05:03:21,980 Wilson is district one. 1231 05:03:21,980 --> 05:03:24,259 But I'm going to look to my left first. 1232 05:03:24,259 --> 05:03:26,259 Commissioner Semrad. 1233 05:03:28,610 --> 05:03:29,432 >> Thank you, mayor. 1234 05:03:29,432 --> 05:03:30,644 That was fun. 1235 05:03:30,644 --> 05:03:34,244 Thank you, Joe, for the presentation. 1236 05:03:34,382 --> 05:03:39,782 On slide 12, I noted how to reduce the budget. 1237 05:03:40,318 --> 05:03:41,806 Congratulations on achieving that. 1238 05:03:41,806 --> 05:03:44,560 What I was a little concerned about 1239 05:03:44,560 --> 05:03:46,198 is I saw some of those budget reductions 1240 05:03:46,198 --> 05:03:50,774 seemed like it was taking away from programs that were offered 1241 05:03:50,774 --> 05:03:53,502 to help staff continues to develop over 1242 05:03:53,502 --> 05:03:55,638 the years of their career. 1243 05:03:55,638 --> 05:03:58,854 Education and certificates and training and such. 1244 05:03:58,854 --> 05:04:04,578 I just wondered, what is the consequence if in your industry 1245 05:04:04,578 --> 05:04:09,378 people don't stay current of trends in such 1246 05:04:10,144 --> 05:04:13,918 that you see happening in public works? 1247 05:04:13,918 --> 05:04:16,609 >> There's a couple of things. 1248 05:04:16,609 --> 05:04:21,598 We looked at historical usage of the travel and training 1249 05:04:21,598 --> 05:04:23,598 budgets combined. 1250 05:04:23,658 --> 05:04:28,458 But there are some things that we absolutely 1251 05:04:30,998 --> 05:04:32,544 continues to maintain. 1252 05:04:32,544 --> 05:04:34,278 We maintenance traffic certifications 1253 05:04:34,278 --> 05:04:36,460 that our field staff have. 1254 05:04:36,460 --> 05:04:37,918 There are some other certifications 1255 05:04:37,918 --> 05:04:39,585 associated with construction inspections 1256 05:04:39,585 --> 05:04:41,984 that we will continue to do those. 1257 05:04:41,984 --> 05:04:44,308 There is our professional engineering requirements 1258 05:04:44,308 --> 05:04:46,464 that we will continue to do those. 1259 05:04:46,464 --> 05:04:52,142 We will also look at continuing to offer CDL license 1260 05:04:52,142 --> 05:04:54,142 string to staff. 1261 05:04:54,220 --> 05:04:56,715 It may not be as many as the past, 1262 05:04:56,715 --> 05:04:59,101 but it will still be some available for staff 1263 05:04:59,101 --> 05:05:00,551 to be able to get that CDL license 1264 05:05:00,551 --> 05:05:02,343 so they can move from an equipment operator 1265 05:05:02,343 --> 05:05:05,984 one to a two, three, or possibly four. 1266 05:05:05,984 --> 05:05:07,348 Some are still staying in place. 1267 05:05:07,348 --> 05:05:13,171 What we are looking at was some of the other generalized 1268 05:05:13,171 --> 05:05:17,971 training with either conference or subject specific training 1269 05:05:21,458 --> 05:05:28,580 or things like stormwater design or some of our other inspection 1270 05:05:28,958 --> 05:05:32,800 activities that we have internal staff that 1271 05:05:32,800 --> 05:05:35,418 are experienced and can share some of those things. 1272 05:05:35,418 --> 05:05:36,886 So we're not looking to compromise 1273 05:05:36,886 --> 05:05:39,364 any of the certifications that our staff have. 1274 05:05:39,364 --> 05:05:42,380 But we are looking at trying to bring in and do 1275 05:05:42,380 --> 05:05:44,380 some internal training. 1276 05:05:44,714 --> 05:05:46,230 >> Thank you for the explanation. 1277 05:05:46,230 --> 05:05:51,630 And then I just had another question regarding, again, 1278 05:05:52,349 --> 05:05:56,702 the slide where it talks about what other programs at risk. 1279 05:05:56,702 --> 05:05:58,862 Could you just put that one up and could you 1280 05:05:58,862 --> 05:06:04,858 provide an example to us of what you mean by a public safety 1281 05:06:04,858 --> 05:06:05,908 risk? 1282 05:06:05,908 --> 05:06:09,508 It's number two on that slide. 1283 05:06:10,310 --> 05:06:14,231 >> I guess I need to do that. 1284 05:06:14,478 --> 05:06:16,478 >> So right -- 1285 05:06:18,464 --> 05:06:20,464 >> This one? 1286 05:06:21,638 --> 05:06:24,638 >> No, it was the other one with the bullet points. 1287 05:06:24,638 --> 05:06:26,638 >> This one? 1288 05:06:27,780 --> 05:06:27,615 >> No. 1289 05:06:27,615 --> 05:06:29,100 I should have written it down. 1290 05:06:29,100 --> 05:06:29,933 This one right here. 1291 05:06:29,933 --> 05:06:31,767 When you see something like it says programs 1292 05:06:31,767 --> 05:06:33,718 that could be reduced or would be at risk 1293 05:06:33,718 --> 05:06:38,518 and it says bridge maintenance, parentheses public safety, 1294 05:06:39,857 --> 05:06:41,440 could you give us an example something 1295 05:06:41,440 --> 05:06:43,482 that would happen with a bridge that could result 1296 05:06:43,482 --> 05:06:46,482 in a public safety issue? 1297 05:06:46,838 --> 05:06:52,238 >> We have biennial reports, reports that we get from 1298 05:06:54,630 --> 05:06:54,829 the DOT. 1299 05:06:54,829 --> 05:06:57,718 They look at a number of different things associated 1300 05:06:57,718 --> 05:06:58,458 with the bridge. 1301 05:06:58,458 --> 05:07:02,531 Some of them are truly esthetic, things 1302 05:07:02,531 --> 05:07:06,944 that you can see that just don't look well, but still 1303 05:07:06,944 --> 05:07:07,988 may approached. 1304 05:07:07,988 --> 05:07:11,168 And then there's some things that 1305 05:07:11,168 --> 05:07:14,694 are operations and maintenance repairs and upkeep. 1306 05:07:14,694 --> 05:07:18,660 That may be some small squall line 1307 05:07:18,660 --> 05:07:20,358 where there's little patches or pieces of concrete that 1308 05:07:20,358 --> 05:07:20,883 come out. 1309 05:07:20,883 --> 05:07:24,938 Or there may be some scaling on the piles, which happens 1310 05:07:24,938 --> 05:07:26,918 over the course of time. 1311 05:07:26,918 --> 05:07:29,598 >> Could that result in safety issues for cars using those 1312 05:07:29,598 --> 05:07:30,798 bridges? 1313 05:07:30,798 --> 05:07:31,598 >> It can. 1314 05:07:31,598 --> 05:07:34,510 We get these reports every two years. 1315 05:07:34,510 --> 05:07:37,150 You address those things more immediately so 1316 05:07:37,150 --> 05:07:39,478 that scaling on that pile doesn't 1317 05:07:39,478 --> 05:07:43,462 get so bad that the reinforcement bars are exposed 1318 05:07:43,462 --> 05:07:45,398 and can collapse. 1319 05:07:45,398 --> 05:07:46,720 So yes. 1320 05:07:46,720 --> 05:07:49,486 And one thing we are not willing to compromise 1321 05:07:49,486 --> 05:07:51,375 and we're not going to produce in our budget 1322 05:07:51,375 --> 05:07:55,798 is how we are looking at our bridge maintenance and safety 1323 05:07:55,798 --> 05:07:56,298 programs. 1324 05:07:56,298 --> 05:07:59,944 We're making sure that we get some of the things settle down 1325 05:07:59,944 --> 05:08:02,384 or may be some things that we can say, 1326 05:08:02,384 --> 05:08:04,604 that it's more maintenance related items 1327 05:08:04,604 --> 05:08:07,695 and we can push those out for a fiscal year. 1328 05:08:07,695 --> 05:08:09,398 But if there is something that comes 1329 05:08:09,398 --> 05:08:14,198 in that is more of a structural component, 1330 05:08:14,718 --> 05:08:16,984 that would either get an immediate response 1331 05:08:16,984 --> 05:08:19,518 or we would close the bridge or would 1332 05:08:19,518 --> 05:08:23,798 look at doing those repairs and modifications as quickly as we 1333 05:08:23,798 --> 05:08:24,298 can. 1334 05:08:24,298 --> 05:08:29,698 It depends a little bit on the force receive. 1335 05:08:31,958 --> 05:08:34,148 There's no coming back from the Comptroller 1336 05:08:34,148 --> 05:08:36,718 that's going to discuss some of that. 1337 05:08:36,718 --> 05:08:39,238 >> It sounds as though some of the things that you are 1338 05:08:39,238 --> 05:08:42,851 describing, that could happen if these things aren't maintained 1339 05:08:42,851 --> 05:08:44,851 are catastrophic. 1340 05:08:45,135 --> 05:08:45,718 >> Absolutely. 1341 05:08:45,718 --> 05:08:48,398 That's the intention of getting these reports every two years, 1342 05:08:48,398 --> 05:08:50,628 making sure we are addressing those accordingly, 1343 05:08:50,628 --> 05:08:54,606 looking at the items that are most important to get done, 1344 05:08:54,606 --> 05:08:56,598 and making those decisions. 1345 05:08:56,598 --> 05:08:58,700 Is this an item that we have to do today 1346 05:08:58,700 --> 05:09:01,432 or is this an item that we can schedule with some other work? 1347 05:09:01,432 --> 05:09:05,163 Or is this an item that we can postpone for a year or so 1348 05:09:05,163 --> 05:09:09,931 and bring it back based on budget availability? 1349 05:09:09,931 --> 05:09:11,931 >> Thank you, Joe. 1350 05:09:12,702 --> 05:09:14,702 >> Commissioner Gomez Cordero. 1351 05:09:16,910 --> 05:09:18,860 >> Okay. 1352 05:09:18,860 --> 05:09:22,286 Thank you for your presentation and always 1353 05:09:22,418 --> 05:09:25,286 being accessible on your team. 1354 05:09:25,286 --> 05:09:26,991 Your engineers are so amazing. 1355 05:09:26,991 --> 05:09:27,491 Thank you. 1356 05:09:27,491 --> 05:09:31,942 I wanted to say thank you also because you did put here 1357 05:09:31,942 --> 05:09:33,672 the critical programs that -- 1358 05:09:33,672 --> 05:09:35,430 I like it. 1359 05:09:35,430 --> 05:09:36,816 Thank you so much for doing that. 1360 05:09:36,816 --> 05:09:37,608 That was excellent. 1361 05:09:37,608 --> 05:09:40,760 I probably signal issues, we call you 1362 05:09:40,760 --> 05:09:44,615 and then you take care of it. 1363 05:09:44,615 --> 05:09:47,150 Thank you so much. 1364 05:09:47,718 --> 05:09:50,340 What I wanted to say? 1365 05:09:50,340 --> 05:09:53,718 The mowing schedule that you said it couldn't be reduced 1366 05:09:53,718 --> 05:09:58,590 and you know that we received so many calls because the ordinance 1367 05:09:58,590 --> 05:09:59,738 is 18in. 1368 05:09:59,738 --> 05:10:03,285 But the county is the one that had the -- 1369 05:10:03,285 --> 05:10:06,518 that would be a problem, right? 1370 05:10:06,518 --> 05:10:07,278 >> Yes. 1371 05:10:07,278 --> 05:10:11,634 That's one of the reasons we identified that. 1372 05:10:11,634 --> 05:10:13,864 If there are budget constraints and there 1373 05:10:13,864 --> 05:10:15,950 is a decision or determination that we 1374 05:10:15,950 --> 05:10:19,150 need to look at what things can we 1375 05:10:19,150 --> 05:10:22,450 do to reduce certain areas of our budget, 1376 05:10:22,450 --> 05:10:25,744 the mowing cycle can be impacted. 1377 05:10:25,744 --> 05:10:31,671 We can look at that and say we are going to go from 12 or 1824 1378 05:10:31,671 --> 05:10:32,926 business day. 1379 05:10:32,926 --> 05:10:36,758 And that would reduce your cost by however much 1380 05:10:36,758 --> 05:10:38,991 depending on how you go. 1381 05:10:38,991 --> 05:10:40,991 We wouldn't reduce it and eliminate it. 1382 05:10:40,991 --> 05:10:44,218 We do need to come out and maintain the rights of way 1383 05:10:44,218 --> 05:10:47,134 and mow the medians and those other common grass areas. 1384 05:10:47,134 --> 05:10:49,270 But there is certainly the chance 1385 05:10:49,270 --> 05:10:52,603 that that could be something that we would look at and have 1386 05:10:52,603 --> 05:10:55,763 to make a determination that these are the things 1387 05:10:55,763 --> 05:10:58,763 that we need to do. 1388 05:11:03,976 --> 05:11:07,384 >> But anyway, thank you for the presentation. 1389 05:11:07,384 --> 05:11:08,958 >> Thank you, Commissioner. 1390 05:11:08,958 --> 05:11:10,958 >> Commissioner Uribe. 1391 05:11:12,922 --> 05:11:14,359 >> How are you? 1392 05:11:14,359 --> 05:11:15,309 Party over here. 1393 05:11:15,309 --> 05:11:17,214 Mayor likes to go to the right because that's 1394 05:11:17,214 --> 05:11:18,318 where we party the. 1395 05:11:18,318 --> 05:11:20,704 Anyway, I did have a question. 1396 05:11:20,704 --> 05:11:26,704 One that stood out to me very quickly was econ , 1397 05:11:29,782 --> 05:11:33,352 Chickasaw to Lake Underhill that you said was unfunded that was 1398 05:11:33,352 --> 05:11:34,860 on the slide -- 1399 05:11:34,860 --> 05:11:39,660 I have it right here -- slide number 35. 1400 05:11:39,811 --> 05:11:43,930 What price tag is that having nowadays? 1401 05:11:43,930 --> 05:11:47,321 When I was elected in 2018, it had a number of. 1402 05:11:47,321 --> 05:11:49,404 I was just curious to see if that number has grown 1403 05:11:49,404 --> 05:11:50,758 or if it's still the same. 1404 05:11:50,758 --> 05:11:54,638 >> I'll have to get back to you on what the price tag is. 1405 05:11:54,638 --> 05:12:00,378 I know the big challenge with that piece from Chickasaw over 1406 05:12:00,378 --> 05:12:00,878 -- 1407 05:12:00,878 --> 05:12:02,556 >> Right away. 1408 05:12:02,556 --> 05:12:04,931 >> Right away is one but then the canal on the other side 1409 05:12:04,931 --> 05:12:07,395 and the impacts that creates is the other. 1410 05:12:07,395 --> 05:12:10,157 Closing that open air canal, do you know 1411 05:12:10,157 --> 05:12:12,518 we have issues with drainage. 1412 05:12:12,518 --> 05:12:16,390 >> We'd have to almost eminent domain a little too. 1413 05:12:16,390 --> 05:12:18,214 >> I'm sure. 1414 05:12:18,214 --> 05:12:22,295 We typically try not to go into yards 1415 05:12:22,295 --> 05:12:27,926 and do take down walls and replace walls and impact rear 1416 05:12:27,926 --> 05:12:29,926 lots. 1417 05:12:30,998 --> 05:12:34,598 But that particular project may require 1418 05:12:35,110 --> 05:12:39,700 some right of way acquisition along the southern side as well. 1419 05:12:39,700 --> 05:12:41,810 The bigger challenge is how are you 1420 05:12:41,810 --> 05:12:45,580 going to move from the open area east and then close that canal? 1421 05:12:45,580 --> 05:12:49,838 That and the long term maintenance of the boxed canal 1422 05:12:49,838 --> 05:12:53,290 creates a number of different challenges. 1423 05:12:53,290 --> 05:12:55,748 >> Sorry for going for that question first because actually 1424 05:12:55,748 --> 05:12:57,391 I want to thank your staff. 1425 05:12:57,391 --> 05:13:01,696 Brett, even when a 91 year old man threatened 1426 05:13:01,696 --> 05:13:04,238 to bring his gun out when they were going to tear down an oak 1427 05:13:04,238 --> 05:13:05,494 tree and he smiled because he remembers, 1428 05:13:05,494 --> 05:13:07,744 we all rushed out and had to call the Sheriff's office 1429 05:13:07,744 --> 05:13:13,144 because you guys were laying out sidewalks just Felipe. 1430 05:13:18,747 --> 05:13:19,497 >> (indiscernible) 1431 05:13:19,497 --> 05:13:20,289 >> Not in that way. 1432 05:13:20,289 --> 05:13:22,789 Not when we have to have the Sheriff's office and everything 1433 05:13:22,789 --> 05:13:24,486 come out because Brant was serious. 1434 05:13:24,486 --> 05:13:25,768 You can't do guns. 1435 05:13:25,768 --> 05:13:27,164 We don't do guns. 1436 05:13:27,164 --> 05:13:29,904 But what I'm saying is the reason 1437 05:13:29,904 --> 05:13:32,838 why I was so impressed was communication 1438 05:13:32,838 --> 05:13:35,654 and how quickly your team and even the contractor 1439 05:13:35,654 --> 05:13:39,738 all came together and actually found a beautiful solution being 1440 05:13:39,738 --> 05:13:43,486 able to pivot around this huge beautiful oak tree 1441 05:13:43,486 --> 05:13:48,504 and give still some nice landscaping to my very 1442 05:13:48,504 --> 05:13:49,684 older Gatlin area. 1443 05:13:49,684 --> 05:13:53,780 And at the same time still successfully do the sidewalk. 1444 05:13:53,780 --> 05:13:55,118 I want to give kudos to Brett. 1445 05:13:55,118 --> 05:14:00,180 I would also like to give kudos to Susan because whenever we 1446 05:14:00,180 --> 05:14:04,974 talk sidewalks -- and I have an Enfield district. 1447 05:14:04,974 --> 05:14:07,338 Some people don't have a lot of yards. 1448 05:14:07,338 --> 05:14:08,838 They argue and don't want sidewalks. 1449 05:14:08,838 --> 05:14:13,238 But then when I took a sidewalk issue that was literally 1450 05:14:13,238 --> 05:14:15,526 where kids were waiting for the bus on the road 1451 05:14:15,526 --> 05:14:17,718 because there was no sidewalk, they 1452 05:14:17,718 --> 05:14:20,798 came in and had probably one of the safest 1453 05:14:20,798 --> 05:14:25,854 areas in our community because it stopped the cars from parking 1454 05:14:25,854 --> 05:14:28,622 on the side because once you've used car lots and mechanics 1455 05:14:28,622 --> 05:14:31,540 and actually made a safe place for kids. 1456 05:14:31,540 --> 05:14:34,971 I've actually gotten phone calls personally thanking me for that. 1457 05:14:34,971 --> 05:14:37,718 That is when this works. 1458 05:14:37,718 --> 05:14:41,918 And then lastly, Ed, who is here, 1459 05:14:42,284 --> 05:14:46,758 him being the shield to go into Rio when that was a tough 1460 05:14:46,758 --> 05:14:49,758 conversation, but knowledge is -- 1461 05:14:52,134 --> 05:14:56,334 truth and knowledge has validity in communities. 1462 05:14:57,680 --> 05:15:00,266 You give that community although we can't solve anything, 1463 05:15:00,266 --> 05:15:01,150 you are honest. 1464 05:15:01,150 --> 05:15:02,723 We are honest with them and let them know 1465 05:15:02,723 --> 05:15:04,769 and we are responsive and continue to be. 1466 05:15:04,769 --> 05:15:08,166 And so those are the great things 1467 05:15:08,166 --> 05:15:10,393 that happen in our community that many people don't 1468 05:15:10,393 --> 05:15:11,518 get to hear the stories of. 1469 05:15:11,518 --> 05:15:12,982 I want to thank your staff. 1470 05:15:12,982 --> 05:15:15,678 Where is that angel Jeff Charles? 1471 05:15:15,678 --> 05:15:16,938 Is he here? 1472 05:15:16,938 --> 05:15:18,278 He is an angel. 1473 05:15:18,278 --> 05:15:21,150 He's like an angel that goes around 1474 05:15:21,150 --> 05:15:24,464 because he has the most calming personality that 1475 05:15:24,464 --> 05:15:29,166 has been able to deal with anybody irate. 1476 05:15:29,166 --> 05:15:31,651 And not only gets them from here but they end up 1477 05:15:31,651 --> 05:15:32,734 hugging when they're done. 1478 05:15:32,734 --> 05:15:34,395 That's why I call him an angel. 1479 05:15:34,395 --> 05:15:35,688 That is super important. 1480 05:15:35,688 --> 05:15:39,511 My question is, as I've been doing all the research 1481 05:15:39,511 --> 05:15:42,758 on our budget, when I found out that the communication utility 1482 05:15:42,758 --> 05:15:45,751 fee that got put into general fund, 1483 05:15:45,751 --> 05:15:47,418 I know you've been here for a long time 1484 05:15:47,418 --> 05:15:49,602 and you left and came back. 1485 05:15:49,602 --> 05:15:53,546 I don't know, Byron, since that predates you 1486 05:15:53,546 --> 05:15:54,838 how long that's been happening. 1487 05:15:54,838 --> 05:16:00,238 I understood that was Mayor Jacobs that is -- 1488 05:16:01,218 --> 05:16:03,218 switch to that. 1489 05:16:03,718 --> 05:16:06,718 >> It's been a while, Commissioner. 1490 05:16:07,758 --> 05:16:11,688 Really just to allocate it to something, 1491 05:16:11,688 --> 05:16:13,811 we could allocate it to public works, 1492 05:16:13,811 --> 05:16:17,408 but then we could allocate -- >> I know it was originally 1493 05:16:17,408 --> 05:16:18,278 established. 1494 05:16:18,278 --> 05:16:20,888 I've been talking to a lot of people in communications. 1495 05:16:20,888 --> 05:16:24,214 What hurts me is your deficit financially. 1496 05:16:24,214 --> 05:16:29,654 Even if we talk ten years of let's just say 10 million 1497 05:16:29,654 --> 05:16:31,462 a year, that would have been $100 million 1498 05:16:31,462 --> 05:16:36,924 that could have gone against that 276 million in the whole. 1499 05:16:36,924 --> 05:16:40,958 And so as much as we prioritize and know how important you all 1500 05:16:40,958 --> 05:16:46,254 are to not have even those little resources to assist 1501 05:16:46,254 --> 05:16:47,539 is very frustrated. 1502 05:16:47,539 --> 05:16:49,860 I've got one last thing. 1503 05:16:49,860 --> 05:16:53,200 When it comes to the grass thing is 1504 05:16:53,200 --> 05:16:54,624 something we hear all the time. 1505 05:16:54,624 --> 05:16:57,950 Are we responsible for that on dot roads also? 1506 05:16:57,950 --> 05:17:00,350 How does that work? 1507 05:17:01,370 --> 05:17:03,662 >> There are three double dashes that what you were saying, Ed? 1508 05:17:03,662 --> 05:17:06,980 There are three locations that we have in the dot 1509 05:17:06,980 --> 05:17:09,821 and they pay us similar to grass. 1510 05:17:09,821 --> 05:17:11,821 Otherwise, no. 1511 05:17:12,347 --> 05:17:17,147 Generally we have gotten away from those responsibilities, 1512 05:17:18,158 --> 05:17:20,621 accepting any of those responsibilities for landscaping 1513 05:17:20,621 --> 05:17:23,678 and maintenance of any of the dot rights of way. 1514 05:17:23,678 --> 05:17:26,224 There is just a couple that we did 1515 05:17:26,224 --> 05:17:29,870 agree to do because of their location and relationship 1516 05:17:29,870 --> 05:17:32,158 to stuff we were already doing. 1517 05:17:32,158 --> 05:17:35,598 But generally the answer is no. 1518 05:17:35,598 --> 05:17:40,887 >> Because that's to me, I gotta tell you financial, 1519 05:17:40,887 --> 05:17:44,558 it seems like one of the worst financial situations to be in. 1520 05:17:44,558 --> 05:17:48,790 Because you cut it and it rains and it grows. 1521 05:17:48,790 --> 05:17:51,451 Everyone calls us and says, when are they 1522 05:17:51,451 --> 05:17:53,270 going to come cut on Conway Road? 1523 05:17:53,270 --> 05:17:56,138 When are they going to come cut on retention pond? 1524 05:17:56,138 --> 05:18:01,731 Every day that it rains it just-- so even when they cut, 1525 05:18:01,731 --> 05:18:03,278 a week later it's up again. 1526 05:18:03,278 --> 05:18:06,338 And then how do we work with municipalities? 1527 05:18:06,338 --> 05:18:10,400 Do we also maintain theirs on the county right of way? 1528 05:18:10,400 --> 05:18:12,460 Or do we actually give them that funding for them 1529 05:18:12,460 --> 05:18:14,380 to maintain it themselves? 1530 05:18:14,380 --> 05:18:18,838 >> So there's two types of functionally classified roadways 1531 05:18:21,338 --> 05:18:22,814 in the county. 1532 05:18:22,814 --> 05:18:25,718 There are those that are orange County maintains 1533 05:18:25,718 --> 05:18:29,430 the full right of way, right of way line to right of way line. 1534 05:18:29,430 --> 05:18:33,611 For those roadways, we cut the grass. 1535 05:18:33,611 --> 05:18:39,968 Byron may know this one, but line more road is a road that we 1536 05:18:39,968 --> 05:18:44,314 have -- we mow the grass all along both sides of Whitemoor 1537 05:18:44,314 --> 05:18:44,814 Road. 1538 05:18:44,814 --> 05:18:46,488 It's functionally classified as road 1539 05:18:46,488 --> 05:18:49,338 that Orange County maintains, but it's actually 1540 05:18:49,338 --> 05:18:50,258 two municipalities. 1541 05:18:50,258 --> 05:18:52,302 It's partly in Winter Park. 1542 05:18:52,302 --> 05:18:54,180 Those are ours to maintain. 1543 05:18:54,180 --> 05:18:57,238 I know there's other roads that are functionally classified that 1544 05:18:57,238 --> 05:18:59,191 were functionally classified later. 1545 05:18:59,191 --> 05:19:03,418 I was around, but this is not something 1546 05:19:03,418 --> 05:19:04,790 that I'm as familiar with. 1547 05:19:04,790 --> 05:19:06,878 We maintain the road infrastructure 1548 05:19:06,878 --> 05:19:09,878 and the associated drainage only, 1549 05:19:10,448 --> 05:19:13,998 and the municipalities are responsible for maintaining 1550 05:19:13,998 --> 05:19:18,798 the sidewalk or the signage or the grass. 1551 05:19:19,334 --> 05:19:22,478 George and our roads and drainage division 1552 05:19:22,478 --> 05:19:25,429 is familiar with all those tweaks and ins and outs 1553 05:19:25,429 --> 05:19:27,246 as to who maintains what. 1554 05:19:27,246 --> 05:19:29,958 We have a pretty good working relationship 1555 05:19:29,958 --> 05:19:32,958 with municipalities, at least clarifying 1556 05:19:33,638 --> 05:19:36,542 that this is ours to maintain or this is the cities or towns 1557 05:19:36,542 --> 05:19:37,678 to maintain. 1558 05:19:37,678 --> 05:19:41,629 So if you have a specific example-- >> 1559 05:19:41,629 --> 05:19:45,454 I could give you a whole bunch of specific examples. 1560 05:19:45,454 --> 05:19:48,164 I think it's a difficult task. 1561 05:19:48,164 --> 05:19:51,751 It's probably the only good time is winter when it freezes. 1562 05:19:51,751 --> 05:19:55,649 But I was going to ask, Byron, our CR 1563 05:19:55,649 --> 05:19:58,766 is allowed to use funding to maintain those roads when 1564 05:19:58,766 --> 05:20:01,446 we look at Winter Park has gathered? 1565 05:20:01,446 --> 05:20:06,580 Because I feel bad because it seems like we always looked at. 1566 05:20:06,580 --> 05:20:09,489 It's constantly our fault. That is the trend I see. 1567 05:20:09,489 --> 05:20:13,449 How long is the county going to do this? 1568 05:20:13,449 --> 05:20:15,868 I honestly don't even see as a landscaper 1569 05:20:15,868 --> 05:20:19,782 how that even financially makes sense because you are just 1570 05:20:19,782 --> 05:20:20,684 doing strips. 1571 05:20:20,684 --> 05:20:24,884 I'll have to have a deeper conversation. 1572 05:20:25,758 --> 05:20:29,210 >> There's larger zones across the county. 1573 05:20:29,210 --> 05:20:32,710 You get into multiple acres that you are maintaining. 1574 05:20:32,710 --> 05:20:36,418 That is where the profitability is is that you have the larger 1575 05:20:36,418 --> 05:20:40,633 areas and you can -- >> You see them on the turnpike when 1576 05:20:40,633 --> 05:20:41,758 they're doing big sections. 1577 05:20:41,758 --> 05:20:46,918 When I look at the medians and the islands and stuff like that. 1578 05:20:46,918 --> 05:20:49,904 And we are not really doing that as much. 1579 05:20:49,904 --> 05:20:54,558 When we do create them, are we doing more of a tree? 1580 05:20:54,558 --> 05:20:57,544 I know in OBT it's palm trees. 1581 05:20:57,544 --> 05:20:59,180 It's not really grass. 1582 05:20:59,180 --> 05:21:02,958 It just seems like a futile financial hole 1583 05:21:02,958 --> 05:21:06,998 that you can never ever get right. 1584 05:21:06,998 --> 05:21:09,891 >> There's a number of challenges with the landscaping 1585 05:21:09,891 --> 05:21:11,891 and mowing contracts. 1586 05:21:13,258 --> 05:21:16,300 That is something that Ed and his team 1587 05:21:16,300 --> 05:21:21,403 have been working through ever since I came back 1588 05:21:21,998 --> 05:21:24,830 on the cost associated with those. 1589 05:21:24,830 --> 05:21:27,830 It's like you said, Commissioner. 1590 05:21:30,224 --> 05:21:35,624 >> So yes, if that activity, Department vacation is included 1591 05:21:37,179 --> 05:21:41,379 in that CRA's play -- plan -- 1592 05:21:43,836 --> 05:21:46,291 >> Winter Park has grown their CRA. 1593 05:21:46,291 --> 05:21:49,718 >> They'd have to be included -- you only do CRA expenditure 1594 05:21:49,718 --> 05:21:51,860 on what's in the plan. 1595 05:21:51,860 --> 05:21:54,190 But if they have some beautification effort 1596 05:21:54,190 --> 05:21:58,758 included then they can tie it to improve the area, 1597 05:21:58,758 --> 05:22:02,260 yes, it could be eligible for CRA funds. 1598 05:22:02,260 --> 05:22:03,568 >> I'm just trying to find solutions. 1599 05:22:03,568 --> 05:22:09,568 It's almost better to have the HOA going >> Commissioner, six 1600 05:22:10,230 --> 05:22:11,231 minutes. 1601 05:22:11,231 --> 05:22:12,230 >> That's not fair. 1602 05:22:12,230 --> 05:22:12,830 I have a solution. 1603 05:22:12,830 --> 05:22:16,600 Let's go to Florida native plantings and all of these areas 1604 05:22:16,600 --> 05:22:18,214 so we don't have to worry about expending water. 1605 05:22:18,214 --> 05:22:20,714 We don't have to worry about the type of mowing maintenance. 1606 05:22:20,714 --> 05:22:23,678 We don't have the type of pesticides and runoff. 1607 05:22:23,678 --> 05:22:26,814 It makes no sense to me why we use things that are not 1608 05:22:26,814 --> 05:22:28,518 native to Florida and then we wonder 1609 05:22:28,518 --> 05:22:31,782 why we are spending so much money maintaining it. 1610 05:22:31,782 --> 05:22:34,700 So that Florida Pernicious Peanut 1611 05:22:34,700 --> 05:22:39,118 is a ground cover used in areas that can use sandy soil. 1612 05:22:39,118 --> 05:22:41,586 There's 3 or 4 other kinds that makes no sense to me why we 1613 05:22:41,586 --> 05:22:43,918 continue to use the same -- 1614 05:22:43,918 --> 05:22:44,686 it's two minutes. 1615 05:22:44,686 --> 05:22:45,618 Wait a minute. 1616 05:22:45,618 --> 05:22:46,678 Stop. 1617 05:22:46,678 --> 05:22:48,678 >> I agree. 1618 05:22:49,998 --> 05:22:52,860 >> I'll get her to talk to you. 1619 05:22:52,860 --> 05:22:55,318 >> Part of the problem we have with our medians and to some 1620 05:22:55,318 --> 05:23:01,318 extent even some of the roadsides is our giganto fat 1621 05:23:01,678 --> 05:23:04,398 oversize road plants all over the county. 1622 05:23:04,398 --> 05:23:06,798 You look at this. 1623 05:23:07,158 --> 05:23:08,478 The CIP budget. 1624 05:23:08,478 --> 05:23:10,691 Public works, I don't know how you do it. 1625 05:23:10,691 --> 05:23:12,678 You do more with less every single year. 1626 05:23:12,678 --> 05:23:14,923 They're exactly right as far as looking at this 1627 05:23:14,923 --> 05:23:18,510 and giving me anxiety about the amount of revenue sources. 1628 05:23:18,510 --> 05:23:20,332 I apologize on behalf of my board 1629 05:23:20,332 --> 05:23:23,678 for not being able to carry the stormwater fee 1630 05:23:23,678 --> 05:23:25,388 conversation any further. 1631 05:23:25,388 --> 05:23:27,918 I'm sorry we didn't get our impact fees caught up 1632 05:23:27,918 --> 05:23:28,880 like we should have. 1633 05:23:28,880 --> 05:23:31,898 I am sorry that we haven't been able to do better for you. 1634 05:23:31,898 --> 05:23:34,176 We've got to get better with the design. 1635 05:23:34,176 --> 05:23:36,718 What we know is if you look at the capital improvement amount 1636 05:23:36,718 --> 05:23:40,774 of money, the biggest chunk of it -- it suppresses transit. 1637 05:23:40,774 --> 05:23:42,878 It suppresses pedestrian safety. 1638 05:23:42,878 --> 05:23:44,438 All of that. 1639 05:23:44,438 --> 05:23:48,798 It is that specific mile of road lane. 1640 05:23:48,798 --> 05:23:49,486 It's expensive. 1641 05:23:49,486 --> 05:23:52,510 From what we put out there, even if the developer pays 1642 05:23:52,510 --> 05:23:54,614 for it in the beginning, it's ours forever after. 1643 05:23:54,614 --> 05:23:58,238 I think the approach to design has 1644 05:23:58,238 --> 05:24:02,840 to be show me exactly why right now you 1645 05:24:02,840 --> 05:24:04,990 need a big fat road in all this land. 1646 05:24:04,990 --> 05:24:09,140 Because I think the problem is we have been very land rich 1647 05:24:09,140 --> 05:24:13,742 but we have less and less to work with as time goes on. 1648 05:24:13,742 --> 05:24:15,359 I quite frankly what we have learned 1649 05:24:15,359 --> 05:24:18,326 is if we are not getting any more funds or grants or monies 1650 05:24:18,326 --> 05:24:20,934 for safety, one way we know for sure 1651 05:24:20,934 --> 05:24:23,870 if we're keeping pedestrians, cyclists, 1652 05:24:23,870 --> 05:24:27,295 and drivers safe is to make sure they are going slow. 1653 05:24:27,295 --> 05:24:30,544 And the only way we can really make sure they're going slow 1654 05:24:30,544 --> 05:24:34,638 is to not give them gigantic fat fast roads. 1655 05:24:34,638 --> 05:24:39,178 I see a lot of benefit in approaching design automatically 1656 05:24:39,178 --> 05:24:41,358 a different way than Orange County has done it 1657 05:24:41,358 --> 05:24:44,598 for that long term maintenance piece, for the short term, 1658 05:24:44,598 --> 05:24:46,531 and then understanding that we are not getting 1659 05:24:46,531 --> 05:24:47,902 what we need from impact fees. 1660 05:24:47,902 --> 05:24:51,138 I would say especially look at Schofield Road. 1661 05:24:51,138 --> 05:24:52,478 We don't have any money. 1662 05:24:52,478 --> 05:24:55,238 We don't have any development that's actually partnering 1663 05:24:55,238 --> 05:24:56,536 with us to do that right now. 1664 05:24:56,536 --> 05:24:58,780 And stop giving out building permits. 1665 05:24:58,780 --> 05:25:00,478 We're not going to be able to get people in and out of there. 1666 05:25:00,478 --> 05:25:02,603 Until we're able to get people in and out of there, 1667 05:25:02,603 --> 05:25:04,558 I don't understand how we could be considered 1668 05:25:04,558 --> 05:25:06,958 burdensome to the developer. 1669 05:25:07,838 --> 05:25:12,280 There needs to be like a walk out from the building department 1670 05:25:12,280 --> 05:25:15,935 because there's no cohesion between the resources that we 1671 05:25:15,935 --> 05:25:19,438 need that you have to have to provide access into and out 1672 05:25:19,438 --> 05:25:22,614 of a new development and what we are actually getting from that 1673 05:25:22,614 --> 05:25:23,904 developer in order -- 1674 05:25:23,904 --> 05:25:25,878 Schofield Road is a perfect example. 1675 05:25:25,878 --> 05:25:29,298 How many years has it taken to get Flemmings Road done? 1676 05:25:29,298 --> 05:25:31,821 That's not your fault because we were 1677 05:25:31,821 --> 05:25:33,488 relying on private development interests 1678 05:25:33,488 --> 05:25:36,304 under the current regulatory scheme, which is insufficient. 1679 05:25:36,304 --> 05:25:37,611 It is insufficient. 1680 05:25:37,611 --> 05:25:40,640 Has put you in a horrible place and I'm sorry for that. 1681 05:25:40,640 --> 05:25:42,180 I'm going to keep fighting for it, 1682 05:25:42,180 --> 05:25:43,733 but just know any place that we can 1683 05:25:43,733 --> 05:25:46,494 say we've got to tighten it up, put a native grasses, 1684 05:25:46,494 --> 05:25:51,294 slow people down, it's going to look better, 1685 05:25:51,318 --> 05:25:54,818 we can make that decision purely based on the fact 1686 05:25:54,818 --> 05:25:56,318 that we've been completely defunded. 1687 05:25:56,318 --> 05:26:02,830 Even if they don't believe us on the rest of those issues. 1688 05:26:02,830 --> 05:26:05,830 >> We will take your considerations 1689 05:26:06,378 --> 05:26:08,378 into consideration. 1690 05:26:08,838 --> 05:26:10,838 >> Thank you. 1691 05:26:19,644 --> 05:26:20,352 >> That was good. 1692 05:26:20,352 --> 05:26:20,935 That was good. 1693 05:26:20,935 --> 05:26:22,958 You have one minute. 1694 05:26:22,958 --> 05:26:28,958 >> One question, it's because it came to my mind, Commissioner. 1695 05:26:33,380 --> 05:26:36,380 What about the econ 2D? 1696 05:26:36,163 --> 05:26:38,678 Are you going to finish that because it is still there? 1697 05:26:38,678 --> 05:26:44,678 >> Lake Underhill to econ 2D, that design is moving forward 1698 05:26:46,278 --> 05:26:51,550 and we are looking to bring that project and fund it at least 1699 05:26:51,550 --> 05:26:54,638 through design, which is the next stage. 1700 05:26:54,638 --> 05:26:56,638 >> Thank you. 1701 05:26:56,718 --> 05:26:59,118 >> Excellent, 3:15, thank you, Joe. 1702 05:27:00,831 --> 05:27:02,638 We finished up on time. 1703 05:27:02,638 --> 05:27:06,488 We are going to move now to-- 1704 05:27:06,488 --> 05:27:07,238 >> (indiscernible) 1705 05:27:07,238 --> 05:27:13,238 >> We are going to go to Community and Family Services. 1706 05:27:14,266 --> 05:27:22,666 Ms Thomas is going to come and at least to lead off with that. 1707 05:27:25,674 --> 05:27:27,674 >> Good afternoon, commissioners. 1708 05:27:28,833 --> 05:27:32,358 It is a pleasure to be here before you 1709 05:27:32,358 --> 05:27:36,758 to present the budget for the community and Family Services 1710 05:27:36,758 --> 05:27:38,620 Department. 1711 05:27:38,620 --> 05:27:42,262 I am Van Thomas, the department director 1712 05:27:44,137 --> 05:27:45,518 for just over three years now. 1713 05:27:45,518 --> 05:27:47,902 Very excited to have made it that far. 1714 05:27:47,902 --> 05:27:50,838 This is our presentation outline. 1715 05:27:50,838 --> 05:27:53,368 Will be covering all these topics today, 1716 05:27:53,368 --> 05:27:56,368 starting with our organization chart . 1717 05:28:01,180 --> 05:28:04,318 I would like to invite my dream team managers who 1718 05:28:04,318 --> 05:28:08,148 comprise the Senior leadership of community and Family Services 1719 05:28:08,148 --> 05:28:10,148 Department to stand. 1720 05:28:10,578 --> 05:28:13,578 They are all present today. 1721 05:28:14,861 --> 05:28:19,661 We have doctor Traci Salem as well as 1722 05:28:20,180 --> 05:28:23,180 LaVonne Williams, Esquire, who are 1723 05:28:23,248 --> 05:28:27,448 the department deputy directors reporting through Traci, 1724 05:28:29,158 --> 05:28:33,358 Chastain with the Citizens Commission for children, 1725 05:28:33,918 --> 05:28:36,918 cooperative extension manager Kevin Kam, 1726 05:28:37,980 --> 05:28:42,498 recently promoted to an extension for the highest level 1727 05:28:42,966 --> 05:28:47,166 that there can be for our extension. 1728 05:28:48,126 --> 05:28:50,358 We're very proud of them. 1729 05:28:50,358 --> 05:28:54,823 The fiscal and operational support manager, Yolanda Brown. 1730 05:28:54,823 --> 05:28:58,423 Our Head Start manager, Sonja Hill. 1731 05:28:58,670 --> 05:29:01,998 Our mental health and homelessness manager, 1732 05:29:01,998 --> 05:29:05,598 Isabel Klier-Graham, otherwise known as Lisa. 1733 05:29:07,971 --> 05:29:09,968 And our Youth and Family Services manager 1734 05:29:09,968 --> 05:29:12,368 is Barbara Williams, PhD. 1735 05:29:14,631 --> 05:29:18,331 Reporting through Lavon Williams are Yvette Reyes of our Citizens 1736 05:29:18,331 --> 05:29:22,198 Research and Outreach Division, our community action manager, 1737 05:29:22,198 --> 05:29:27,598 Jonathan Kohn, our parks and recreation manager Kyle Kent, 1738 05:29:28,358 --> 05:29:31,371 and last but not least, our regional history 1739 05:29:31,371 --> 05:29:34,371 center manager, Ms. Aela Santana. 1740 05:29:37,373 --> 05:29:43,373 These are the folks who work with our 1100 almost community 1741 05:29:44,138 --> 05:29:47,214 and Family Services team members to provide 1742 05:29:47,214 --> 05:29:50,738 a human and social services and community 1743 05:29:50,738 --> 05:29:53,738 services here in Orange County. 1744 05:29:56,118 --> 05:30:02,254 Next, we are going to go over some highlights of the proposed 1745 05:30:02,254 --> 05:30:04,904 budget for the coming fiscal year. 1746 05:30:04,904 --> 05:30:09,910 As you can see from the pie chart, 1747 05:30:09,910 --> 05:30:12,248 we receive a little over half of our resources 1748 05:30:12,248 --> 05:30:15,248 through the General Fund, $124.8 million, 1749 05:30:18,461 --> 05:30:20,861 54% of our total revenues. 1750 05:30:22,979 --> 05:30:28,158 Second would come the Parks Fund and impact fees, $68.7 million 1751 05:30:28,158 --> 05:30:30,558 or 30% of our resources. 1752 05:30:33,518 --> 05:30:37,824 The federal and state grants that we get, some of them 1753 05:30:37,824 --> 05:30:41,798 are listed there, the largest being the Head start grant, 1754 05:30:41,798 --> 05:30:46,942 but also we receive USDA Community Services block grant, 1755 05:30:46,942 --> 05:30:51,742 low income heating and emergency assistance energy program, 1756 05:30:52,338 --> 05:30:57,458 the emergency shelter programs that we operate through Great 1757 05:30:57,458 --> 05:31:01,658 Oaks Village, and the family and children's 1758 05:31:03,958 --> 05:31:06,358 counseling programs that we operate all 1759 05:31:06,358 --> 05:31:12,358 receive a proportion of great from the, all of which 1760 05:31:12,622 --> 05:31:15,838 is supplemented by general fund revenues. 1761 05:31:15,838 --> 05:31:18,458 I'll talk a little bit more about that later. 1762 05:31:18,458 --> 05:31:22,658 We also receive some gift funds primarily 1763 05:31:25,354 --> 05:31:30,154 for trees in the parks and recreation Division, 1764 05:31:31,738 --> 05:31:34,982 as well as for great Oaks village. 1765 05:31:34,982 --> 05:31:39,358 We have listed some of the general fund programs. 1766 05:31:39,358 --> 05:31:43,778 You'll recognize many of them listed here for your reference 1767 05:31:43,778 --> 05:31:45,778 as well. 1768 05:31:50,198 --> 05:31:53,564 Looking at this another way, we can break down 1769 05:31:53,564 --> 05:31:58,208 what our personal services budget is as compared 1770 05:31:58,208 --> 05:32:00,380 to the operating budget. 1771 05:32:00,380 --> 05:32:06,638 And you see that dollar change is 1.9 million for our staff 1772 05:32:06,960 --> 05:32:12,134 and salary related costs, while the operating budget went down 1773 05:32:12,134 --> 05:32:17,534 by 1.1 million, which netted an $800,000 change in our budget. 1774 05:32:24,833 --> 05:32:27,208 Of course we received the award from the mayor and county 1775 05:32:27,208 --> 05:32:31,840 administrator that we were striving toward a status quo 1776 05:32:31,840 --> 05:32:31,584 budget. 1777 05:32:31,584 --> 05:32:36,180 We did our level best to try to keep it that way. 1778 05:32:36,180 --> 05:32:40,218 We did make some internal efficiencies changes 1779 05:32:41,158 --> 05:32:43,700 and noted some things we might be 1780 05:32:43,700 --> 05:32:45,158 able to do a little bit differently 1781 05:32:45,158 --> 05:32:48,158 in order to conserve funds. 1782 05:32:51,658 --> 05:32:54,721 We feel like we've presented to you a great budget that 1783 05:32:54,721 --> 05:32:58,662 allows us to continue those very important services that 1784 05:32:58,662 --> 05:33:01,620 are within our purview. 1785 05:33:01,778 --> 05:33:09,578 On the staffing front, we have increased I a mere three new -- 1786 05:33:10,564 --> 05:33:13,518 increased by a mere three new positions. 1787 05:33:13,518 --> 05:33:16,110 Those are on our parks and recreation team. 1788 05:33:16,110 --> 05:33:18,868 We end up with 998 proposed positions 1789 05:33:18,868 --> 05:33:25,211 total for our department in terms of full time and some part 1790 05:33:25,211 --> 05:33:27,611 time roles as well. 1791 05:33:30,638 --> 05:33:32,838 Those three positions that are new 1792 05:33:32,838 --> 05:33:39,438 and proposed in the budget, as I mentioned, are featured here. 1793 05:33:40,127 --> 05:33:43,374 They are all three in Parks and Recreation Division. 1794 05:33:43,374 --> 05:33:48,774 We are looking to add two additional parks services 1795 05:33:50,718 --> 05:33:53,718 specialists for Tangelo Park which 1796 05:33:54,278 --> 05:33:58,478 will be opening our new Park gymnasium 1797 05:33:58,638 --> 05:34:02,940 and also Community Action Center there a little 1798 05:34:02,940 --> 05:34:04,428 bit later this year. 1799 05:34:04,428 --> 05:34:09,498 We also feel a strong need to add a warehouse supervisor. 1800 05:34:09,498 --> 05:34:13,980 This is our largest department warehouse 1801 05:34:14,414 --> 05:34:17,928 with many tools and equipment, chemicals 1802 05:34:17,928 --> 05:34:21,784 and the like that are necessary for the stores 1803 05:34:21,784 --> 05:34:25,984 to operate our very large park system. 1804 05:34:29,318 --> 05:34:33,214 Additionally by way of a staffing update, 1805 05:34:33,214 --> 05:34:37,391 we have made great progress in terms of our hiring. 1806 05:34:37,391 --> 05:34:43,380 We have a mere 92 vacancies when we last took stock of this 1807 05:34:43,380 --> 05:34:45,380 on June 24th. 1808 05:34:46,590 --> 05:34:49,590 That represents only a 9% vacancy 1809 05:34:50,531 --> 05:34:53,698 rate, which is very good by almost any measure. 1810 05:34:53,698 --> 05:34:58,846 We've worked very hard to attain this rate of vacancy. 1811 05:34:58,846 --> 05:35:01,718 And we have many positions that are 1812 05:35:01,718 --> 05:35:06,126 in the process of being hired even now. 1813 05:35:06,126 --> 05:35:09,614 So hopefully we'll be taking this even lower 1814 05:35:09,614 --> 05:35:12,340 within the next month or so. 1815 05:35:12,340 --> 05:35:16,546 We have used a lot of new tools to help improve our ability 1816 05:35:16,546 --> 05:35:20,274 not only to attract talent and staff 1817 05:35:20,274 --> 05:35:23,874 but to retain them as well. 1818 05:35:25,838 --> 05:35:33,638 Now we will go over to our -- a few operating budget highlights, 1819 05:35:34,614 --> 05:35:37,462 one of which I would like to reiterate for your recollection 1820 05:35:37,462 --> 05:35:43,198 is that last year I outlined for you in my proposal to make 1821 05:35:43,198 --> 05:35:48,286 a significant addition to our ability to provide very much 1822 05:35:48,286 --> 05:35:53,860 a quality customer service approach to both serving 1823 05:35:54,265 --> 05:35:58,883 our customers but also the collection of data, 1824 05:35:58,883 --> 05:36:02,648 and being able to connect their eligibility for various programs 1825 05:36:02,648 --> 05:36:06,806 through a much simplified process that is easier 1826 05:36:06,806 --> 05:36:08,806 for our customers. 1827 05:36:09,230 --> 05:36:13,380 We nicknamed this project the Magellan Project. 1828 05:36:13,380 --> 05:36:15,978 We proposed a pilot that would enable 1829 05:36:15,978 --> 05:36:23,175 us to test this new system out on a few of our divisions 1830 05:36:23,175 --> 05:36:27,446 and to be able to make connections for customers 1831 05:36:27,446 --> 05:36:30,542 through all the programs that they might 1832 05:36:30,542 --> 05:36:35,342 be eligible for through one simple application process, 1833 05:36:35,478 --> 05:36:39,780 making a streamlined approach for them, 1834 05:36:39,374 --> 05:36:44,464 for us, and being able to collect more data regarding 1835 05:36:44,464 --> 05:36:48,640 their outcomes and the different places 1836 05:36:49,380 --> 05:36:52,638 that they touch within our system. 1837 05:36:53,430 --> 05:36:55,550 And I'm just happy to be able to report 1838 05:36:55,550 --> 05:36:57,838 that we have made significant progress on moving 1839 05:36:57,838 --> 05:36:59,573 this project forward. 1840 05:36:59,573 --> 05:37:06,158 We are in the process now of selecting the builder software 1841 05:37:06,158 --> 05:37:10,358 builder we'll design this system for us. 1842 05:37:12,855 --> 05:37:17,751 We hope to have it in operation within the next 12 to 18 months 1843 05:37:17,751 --> 05:37:19,751 if not sooner. 1844 05:37:21,780 --> 05:37:25,878 We created some efficiencies by reallocating some dollars 1845 05:37:27,380 --> 05:37:30,295 from several different programs to be 1846 05:37:30,295 --> 05:37:35,198 able to use for the acquisition of this system and the work 1847 05:37:35,198 --> 05:37:37,300 that it will take to build it. 1848 05:37:37,300 --> 05:37:42,126 And we are very excited that we anticipate piloting it 1849 05:37:42,126 --> 05:37:46,878 with the Citizens Commission for Children Division of Health 1850 05:37:46,878 --> 05:37:50,126 and Homelessness, and we are finding 1851 05:37:50,126 --> 05:37:52,758 that our builders may be proposing ways 1852 05:37:52,758 --> 05:37:57,470 that we can add other divisions as well sooner than we 1853 05:37:57,470 --> 05:37:58,803 had otherwise anticipated. 1854 05:37:58,803 --> 05:38:06,603 We will be keeping you posted on our progress as we develop this. 1855 05:38:06,798 --> 05:38:11,598 Also in our citizen Resource and Outreach division, 1856 05:38:11,670 --> 05:38:14,788 we have reassigned some dollars that we 1857 05:38:14,788 --> 05:38:18,958 had set aside prior to COVID to develop a new housing 1858 05:38:18,958 --> 05:38:22,558 program in order to recruit Empire 1859 05:38:24,654 --> 05:38:27,538 to new veteran services officers. 1860 05:38:27,538 --> 05:38:31,738 This would not require additional new dollars. 1861 05:38:31,838 --> 05:38:37,238 However, the program that we had intended to create 1862 05:38:37,358 --> 05:38:41,558 got delayed because of the COVID-related work 1863 05:38:45,703 --> 05:38:50,411 that we needed to do to distribute housing assistance 1864 05:38:50,411 --> 05:38:51,978 dollars. 1865 05:38:51,978 --> 05:38:55,644 That team was overwhelmed by those tasks, did not get 1866 05:38:55,644 --> 05:38:58,318 to develop this shared housing. 1867 05:38:58,318 --> 05:39:00,974 And since then, we have come up with other ways 1868 05:39:00,974 --> 05:39:03,831 of achieving the same goal that we 1869 05:39:03,831 --> 05:39:06,858 had planned to through that particular program. 1870 05:39:06,858 --> 05:39:10,118 So these dollars we now propose to use 1871 05:39:10,118 --> 05:39:15,566 to bring the additional veteran services officers that there is 1872 05:39:15,566 --> 05:39:17,611 a clear community demand for. 1873 05:39:17,611 --> 05:39:22,158 It enables us to locate them in other areas 1874 05:39:22,158 --> 05:39:28,758 with more depth, such as Lake Baldwin and Lake Nona areas. 1875 05:39:31,358 --> 05:39:35,558 Also in our Citizens and Outreach division, 1876 05:39:35,942 --> 05:39:38,818 we have had the pleasure of being 1877 05:39:38,818 --> 05:39:42,198 able to add the Office of Tenant Services. 1878 05:39:42,198 --> 05:39:46,398 They continue to do their excellent work 1879 05:39:46,698 --> 05:39:48,702 and are very well connected. 1880 05:39:48,702 --> 05:39:52,598 It's a very good fit with the outreach and other programs 1881 05:39:52,598 --> 05:39:56,195 that we run within community and family Services Department. 1882 05:39:56,195 --> 05:39:59,108 You can see some of the statistics 1883 05:39:59,108 --> 05:40:02,976 here for work that they have done in the past year. 1884 05:40:02,976 --> 05:40:07,928 They look forward to some upcoming partnerships that we 1885 05:40:07,928 --> 05:40:11,528 will solidify with memorandums of understanding, 1886 05:40:14,878 --> 05:40:19,238 such as the Orange County Library system and also with 1887 05:40:19,238 --> 05:40:23,878 Community Legal Services, both of which have proven to be 1888 05:40:23,878 --> 05:40:29,803 amazing resources for the team in the way that they do 1889 05:40:29,803 --> 05:40:35,524 their outreach to citizens, as well as the way they're able 1890 05:40:35,524 --> 05:40:41,278 to connect citizens with the legal services that they need 1891 05:40:41,278 --> 05:40:47,278 in order to hopefully sustain their housing and resolve other 1892 05:40:47,948 --> 05:40:52,148 legal housing land -- housing related issues. 1893 05:40:54,678 --> 05:40:57,558 Citizens Commission for children has continued its dynamism 1894 05:40:57,558 --> 05:41:02,114 in terms of all the things that small but mighty team 1895 05:41:02,114 --> 05:41:05,555 accomplished over the course of the year. 1896 05:41:05,555 --> 05:41:07,718 You can see here some of their outcomes 1897 05:41:07,718 --> 05:41:09,446 that we are highlighting. 1898 05:41:09,446 --> 05:41:13,646 Almost a thousand youth completed paid internships. 1899 05:41:15,131 --> 05:41:18,278 There were 1.2 million meals at least served 1900 05:41:18,278 --> 05:41:20,374 to children and their families. 1901 05:41:20,374 --> 05:41:25,174 2500 were more ready for school through the supplies 1902 05:41:26,658 --> 05:41:28,658 and clothing. 1903 05:41:28,778 --> 05:41:32,968 They got immunization and their sports physicals for free. 1904 05:41:32,968 --> 05:41:38,968 And more than 11,000 youth were served through our after school 1905 05:41:39,208 --> 05:41:44,608 zone programing, job rates, all the Oak Middle -- 1906 05:41:49,438 --> 05:41:51,438 OCPS middle schools. 1907 05:41:51,678 --> 05:41:53,544 Through our children's services funding, 1908 05:41:53,544 --> 05:41:55,384 our programing continues to grow. 1909 05:41:55,384 --> 05:41:57,542 We are looking at adding to that that 1910 05:41:57,542 --> 05:41:59,408 is provided the innovation programing that 1911 05:41:59,408 --> 05:42:02,408 is provided for young people. 1912 05:42:02,711 --> 05:42:05,918 Life skills training and of course we 1913 05:42:05,918 --> 05:42:08,978 must accommodate the new commission districts 1914 05:42:08,978 --> 05:42:11,978 that will soon be established. 1915 05:42:13,380 --> 05:42:15,671 We don't do this alone. 1916 05:42:15,671 --> 05:42:20,523 In fact we primarily do this work through the partnerships 1917 05:42:20,523 --> 05:42:24,123 that we have with community organizations. 1918 05:42:24,538 --> 05:42:28,138 Specifically there's a total of $37 million 1919 05:42:29,158 --> 05:42:32,758 that is invested through nonprofit partnerships 1920 05:42:34,424 --> 05:42:39,224 with contracts over 139 of them, and over 340 programs 1921 05:42:45,620 --> 05:42:48,620 that result from that 139 contracts. 1922 05:42:48,408 --> 05:42:51,548 You can see some of them listed here. 1923 05:42:51,548 --> 05:42:55,686 I'm going to flip through just to demonstrate the number 1924 05:42:55,686 --> 05:42:58,966 that we are looking at here. 1925 05:42:58,966 --> 05:43:01,718 Those that are highlighted in the orange 1926 05:43:01,718 --> 05:43:05,254 are new ones from this last fiscal year 1927 05:43:05,254 --> 05:43:07,398 that have been established. 1928 05:43:07,398 --> 05:43:09,284 We have small. 1929 05:43:09,284 --> 05:43:10,384 We have large. 1930 05:43:10,384 --> 05:43:11,584 We have grassroots. 1931 05:43:11,584 --> 05:43:15,184 We have institutions such as OCPS. 1932 05:43:16,220 --> 05:43:18,422 You can see foundations. 1933 05:43:19,574 --> 05:43:24,974 There's a wide range of programs that are available. 1934 05:43:24,990 --> 05:43:28,383 And some of these programs actually 1935 05:43:28,383 --> 05:43:33,183 help to support the operations of other divisions 1936 05:43:33,718 --> 05:43:39,118 within our department but also serve children and families. 1937 05:43:39,582 --> 05:43:43,774 We must talk a little bit about these Citizen Safety Task 1938 05:43:43,774 --> 05:43:46,702 force that has been in operation for some years 1939 05:43:46,702 --> 05:43:52,102 now under the leadership of Mayor Demings, of course. 1940 05:43:54,720 --> 05:43:56,613 We received $2 million annually to supplement 1941 05:43:56,613 --> 05:44:00,998 these programs that are geared towards violence prevention 1942 05:44:00,998 --> 05:44:03,881 and focus on young people. 1943 05:44:03,881 --> 05:44:08,131 We are proposing a couple of new things for this year. 1944 05:44:08,131 --> 05:44:11,698 One of them is adding to a successful new program 1945 05:44:11,698 --> 05:44:16,498 that we established through Citizen Safety Task Force 1946 05:44:16,918 --> 05:44:19,918 funding, the credible Messengers program. 1947 05:44:20,158 --> 05:44:24,858 We intend to add two new ones that will likely be part time. 1948 05:44:24,858 --> 05:44:29,138 We hope to focus on the east side, where 1949 05:44:29,138 --> 05:44:31,803 we know we need to add some capacity, 1950 05:44:31,803 --> 05:44:35,768 and of course we do have our new commission districts 1951 05:44:35,768 --> 05:44:37,718 the as well. 1952 05:44:37,718 --> 05:44:43,118 Also we will be implementing youth violence prevention mini 1953 05:44:43,838 --> 05:44:44,718 grants. 1954 05:44:44,718 --> 05:44:49,108 We do expect to serve at least 3500 youth 1955 05:44:49,108 --> 05:44:51,108 through these programs. 1956 05:44:52,518 --> 05:44:57,138 And then there is our mental health and homelessness team. 1957 05:44:57,138 --> 05:44:59,780 Talk about small but mighty. 1958 05:44:59,780 --> 05:45:03,278 They are in charge of about 59 -- 1959 05:45:06,893 --> 05:45:08,893 39 and 1/2 million dollars. 1960 05:45:10,611 --> 05:45:13,438 They operate primarily out of contracts for their services 1961 05:45:13,438 --> 05:45:15,438 that we provide. 1962 05:45:16,370 --> 05:45:19,182 The service providers are nonprofits. 1963 05:45:19,182 --> 05:45:21,455 Many of them are listed here. 1964 05:45:21,455 --> 05:45:25,458 One new one that is depicted is the Hope center. 1965 05:45:25,458 --> 05:45:30,218 There is much that is going on right now in the mental health 1966 05:45:30,218 --> 05:45:31,478 and homelessness arena. 1967 05:45:31,478 --> 05:45:33,308 We have been innovative. 1968 05:45:33,308 --> 05:45:37,238 We have expanded our ability and capacity 1969 05:45:37,238 --> 05:45:42,738 to serve the unhoused population as well as those who 1970 05:45:42,738 --> 05:45:45,138 have serious mental illnesses. 1971 05:45:45,208 --> 05:45:48,898 And there is a briefing that will be scheduled 1972 05:45:48,898 --> 05:45:51,898 for the commission in October. 1973 05:45:51,898 --> 05:45:56,698 One of your October meetings, Ms. Lisa Graham 1974 05:45:58,572 --> 05:46:03,380 will be going and a fair amount of detail 1975 05:46:03,380 --> 05:46:04,948 in the assortment of things her her team 1976 05:46:04,948 --> 05:46:08,238 were responsible for coordinating and planning. 1977 05:46:08,238 --> 05:46:11,838 However, in the meantime, I will let 1978 05:46:11,838 --> 05:46:15,371 you know that in terms of mental health related accomplishments, 1979 05:46:15,371 --> 05:46:19,403 the Hope center, the new contract that you 1980 05:46:19,403 --> 05:46:22,388 saw on the prior list, a modular approach 1981 05:46:22,388 --> 05:46:27,188 to therapy for children, served 166 youth this year. 1982 05:46:29,158 --> 05:46:31,558 Devereux implemented Multisystemic treatment, 1983 05:46:32,270 --> 05:46:37,670 which resulted in a 66% reduction in youth Baker acts. 1984 05:46:40,744 --> 05:46:45,544 That's involuntary commitments for mental health treatment -- 1985 05:46:48,582 --> 05:46:52,758 since the program began enrolling young people. 1986 05:46:52,758 --> 05:46:57,675 Those are quite successful early results for those two programs. 1987 05:46:57,675 --> 05:47:02,198 In addition, we have our behavioral health outreach 1988 05:47:02,198 --> 05:47:05,198 services for individuals and education 1989 05:47:06,904 --> 05:47:10,531 that we do and provide for law enforcement relating 1990 05:47:10,531 --> 05:47:12,531 to crisis intervention. 1991 05:47:12,694 --> 05:47:19,894 We are proud to say that there was an 8.7% reduction in Baker 1992 05:47:20,750 --> 05:47:23,108 Act and Marchmont Act commitments 1993 05:47:23,108 --> 05:47:28,508 from the previous fiscal year, and the 213 first responders 1994 05:47:29,950 --> 05:47:32,950 were trained in crisis intervention. 1995 05:47:34,878 --> 05:47:40,878 Access to care for high risk pregnant mothers, healthy start 1996 05:47:42,700 --> 05:47:45,454 coalition in partnership with the Nurse Family Partnership 1997 05:47:45,454 --> 05:47:52,654 Group was able to help at least 23 mothers who were in care. 1998 05:47:58,598 --> 05:48:02,198 In the homelessness arena, some accomplishments. 1999 05:48:03,110 --> 05:48:06,000 Our outreach services expansion which 2000 05:48:06,000 --> 05:48:07,958 connected individuals experiencing homelessness 2001 05:48:07,958 --> 05:48:11,558 with shelter, benefits, and supportive services, 2002 05:48:12,158 --> 05:48:17,118 was augmented by our contract with Grand Avenue Economic 2003 05:48:17,118 --> 05:48:19,118 Developments outreach team. 2004 05:48:19,323 --> 05:48:23,523 We were able to respond to 61 encampments. 2005 05:48:24,398 --> 05:48:28,598 Access to permanent housing through our engagement 2006 05:48:28,738 --> 05:48:33,534 of landlords, our affordable housing, and new housing 2007 05:48:33,534 --> 05:48:36,774 navigation efforts it was very successful. 2008 05:48:36,774 --> 05:48:41,518 An example being the new housing Connector program 2009 05:48:41,518 --> 05:48:47,518 that has housed 236 individuals in this last year, just amazing. 2010 05:48:49,582 --> 05:48:52,128 You know how difficult that is to do 2011 05:48:52,128 --> 05:48:56,490 to provide affordable options for people who need them. 2012 05:48:56,490 --> 05:48:59,624 So we are very proud of that tool 2013 05:48:59,624 --> 05:49:05,780 and are making great use of it in our citizens 2014 05:49:05,780 --> 05:49:07,780 resource and outreach. 2015 05:49:07,388 --> 05:49:11,588 And Anderson also our housing development team 2016 05:49:13,538 --> 05:49:18,338 in the PEDS Department are also now contracting 2017 05:49:18,598 --> 05:49:22,198 with Housing Connector for their services. 2018 05:49:23,198 --> 05:49:27,982 In addition, we are developing and have developed 2019 05:49:27,982 --> 05:49:31,758 some bridge housing options both for individuals and families who 2020 05:49:31,758 --> 05:49:33,758 are experiencing homelessness. 2021 05:49:33,798 --> 05:49:38,430 And Samaritan Resources efforts are an example of that. 2022 05:49:38,430 --> 05:49:43,830 They were able to transition 43 families from bridge housing 2023 05:49:43,838 --> 05:49:45,838 to permanent housing. 2024 05:49:46,783 --> 05:49:50,983 Also our access to employment and education 2025 05:49:51,200 --> 05:49:57,971 was improved by the addition of first step staffing to the tools 2026 05:49:57,971 --> 05:50:00,886 that we use for that purpose. 2027 05:50:00,886 --> 05:50:06,286 Total number of clients who are currently employed is 16. 2028 05:50:07,958 --> 05:50:11,558 They came from the 32808 zip code 2029 05:50:12,198 --> 05:50:19,384 and are starting out at pay rates of $17 an hour on average. 2030 05:50:19,384 --> 05:50:24,318 So what are we looking at that is new for mental health 2031 05:50:24,318 --> 05:50:25,158 and homelessness? 2032 05:50:25,158 --> 05:50:28,220 Here are a few examples. 2033 05:50:28,220 --> 05:50:31,438 We have got Golden Rod Village. 2034 05:50:31,438 --> 05:50:35,758 We're very excited about this brand new facility that 2035 05:50:35,758 --> 05:50:38,758 is planned in district three. 2036 05:50:39,727 --> 05:50:44,527 We are looking at a 150 bed housing navigation 2037 05:50:45,924 --> 05:50:50,724 center, beautifully designed and hopefully in place by 2029. 2038 05:50:54,853 --> 05:50:57,761 We're also pursuing the purchase of a hotel that 2039 05:50:57,761 --> 05:51:02,718 could be a mixed use facility for supportive and market rate 2040 05:51:02,718 --> 05:51:03,244 housing. 2041 05:51:03,244 --> 05:51:08,308 And we are going to experiment with an overnight shelter 2042 05:51:08,308 --> 05:51:11,308 bus for chronically unhoused persons. 2043 05:51:13,642 --> 05:51:19,642 I mentioned that we have a pretty decent reliance double 2044 05:51:23,798 --> 05:51:26,998 I believe it's 15% reliance in terms of our total resources 2045 05:51:26,998 --> 05:51:28,998 on grant funds. 2046 05:51:29,958 --> 05:51:33,911 These are the major ones that we receive. 2047 05:51:33,911 --> 05:51:38,711 This particular slide highlights the general fund resources 2048 05:51:39,218 --> 05:51:44,222 that are utilized to supplement the salary and expenses related 2049 05:51:44,222 --> 05:51:45,838 to those grants. 2050 05:51:45,838 --> 05:51:50,270 Just to reinforce for you that although we 2051 05:51:50,270 --> 05:51:53,870 do receive federal and state funds, 2052 05:51:54,106 --> 05:51:57,798 we do as a county also make investments 2053 05:51:57,798 --> 05:52:00,198 in these particular programs. 2054 05:52:00,698 --> 05:52:04,723 The largest one of which is our dynamic Head Start program. 2055 05:52:04,723 --> 05:52:09,523 We receive over $16 million annually for that program. 2056 05:52:09,902 --> 05:52:15,302 And the county more than matches, more than some 2057 05:52:15,397 --> 05:52:20,797 of those funds to the tune currently of 5.6 million. 2058 05:52:23,203 --> 05:52:27,182 CINS FINS, children services call for families in need 2059 05:52:27,182 --> 05:52:29,182 of services, $1.1 million. 2060 05:52:29,428 --> 05:52:32,734 That's a counseling program for youth and families. 2061 05:52:32,734 --> 05:52:36,858 Our Great Oaks Village and Emergency shelters, 2062 05:52:36,858 --> 05:52:41,580 for million dollar investment there well worth 2063 05:52:42,438 --> 05:52:48,162 that investment for children who need a safe place to live. 2064 05:52:48,162 --> 05:52:52,118 Juvenile assessment center for the work that they do to help 2065 05:52:52,118 --> 05:52:56,318 kids get and stay out of trouble, 2066 05:52:57,370 --> 05:53:01,147 120,000 is what the General Fund contributes to that operation. 2067 05:53:01,147 --> 05:53:07,147 And the Oaks program also housed at Juvenile Assessment Center 2068 05:53:07,758 --> 05:53:11,358 location, $150,000 is our general fund contribution. 2069 05:53:14,758 --> 05:53:20,158 Next we will move on to capital improvement program. 2070 05:53:21,198 --> 05:53:24,878 The bulk of which will be presented by our dynamic Parks 2071 05:53:24,878 --> 05:53:26,878 and Recreation Manager. 2072 05:53:27,230 --> 05:53:32,178 But we do have just a few programs outside of that 2073 05:53:32,178 --> 05:53:35,178 that we will cover first. 2074 05:53:35,178 --> 05:53:39,978 The overall capital improvement budget for our department 2075 05:53:40,118 --> 05:53:42,118 is 28.8 million. 2076 05:53:42,334 --> 05:53:47,734 Is what is proposed for the coming fiscal year. 2077 05:53:50,200 --> 05:53:52,764 There are very few projects that we'll focus on outside of parks 2078 05:53:52,764 --> 05:53:53,737 are next. 2079 05:53:53,737 --> 05:53:59,397 The first is building E at the John Bridges Community Center 2080 05:53:59,397 --> 05:54:00,298 campus. 2081 05:54:00,298 --> 05:54:05,980 This was I understand a collection of portables 2082 05:54:05,740 --> 05:54:06,751 previously. 2083 05:54:06,751 --> 05:54:09,338 We have gotten rid of those that are constructing 2084 05:54:09,338 --> 05:54:12,424 an actual building that will house some 2085 05:54:12,424 --> 05:54:16,198 of the operations for Community Action Division, 2086 05:54:16,198 --> 05:54:19,378 as well as the head Start program. 2087 05:54:19,378 --> 05:54:23,317 So we look forward to getting this building completed 2088 05:54:23,317 --> 05:54:26,317 next year hopefully by October. 2089 05:54:26,886 --> 05:54:30,193 That whole project cost is 2.9 million. 2090 05:54:30,193 --> 05:54:35,678 But for the coming fiscal year, we anticipate spending about 500 2091 05:54:35,678 --> 05:54:37,678 000. 2092 05:54:40,380 --> 05:54:42,817 Also we've talked a bit about Goldenrod Village. 2093 05:54:42,817 --> 05:54:47,654 You see there that we are in the design phase. 2094 05:54:47,654 --> 05:54:50,941 We actually have some decent designs 2095 05:54:50,941 --> 05:54:55,304 that give us a clear sense of what we are going for there. 2096 05:54:55,304 --> 05:54:57,304 That cost us 200,000. 2097 05:54:57,878 --> 05:55:01,478 Total project cost anticipated is 26 million. 2098 05:55:02,490 --> 05:55:07,290 We have applied for 5 million through Congressman Frost's 2099 05:55:07,317 --> 05:55:09,206 office in federal funds. 2100 05:55:09,206 --> 05:55:14,606 And we expect to complete that project in 2030 according 2101 05:55:15,750 --> 05:55:18,150 to this slide -- 2102 05:55:20,129 --> 05:55:22,529 the 29 to 30 time period. 2103 05:55:25,373 --> 05:55:27,674 Lastly is Great Oaks Village. 2104 05:55:27,674 --> 05:55:31,274 Thanks to the generosity and discretion 2105 05:55:31,673 --> 05:55:36,580 of the Children's Services Board of which Commissioner Wilson is 2106 05:55:36,580 --> 05:55:39,958 part -- thank you very much -- we are looking at a total 2107 05:55:39,958 --> 05:55:46,558 redesign of the dining hall and other portions of the facility 2108 05:55:47,398 --> 05:55:52,798 that serves meals and the ability for some camaraderie 2109 05:55:53,638 --> 05:55:56,638 there at Great Oaks Village. 2110 05:55:56,691 --> 05:56:02,910 We are in the design phase, which is 5000 anticipated. 2111 05:56:03,858 --> 05:56:10,482 And the total project cost for that project which will come out 2112 05:56:10,482 --> 05:56:13,482 of GOV donation funds is 150,000. 2113 05:56:13,683 --> 05:56:17,301 We hope to complete that project later this year. 2114 05:56:17,301 --> 05:56:24,501 And so now we shall move on to the parks presentation portion 2115 05:56:24,598 --> 05:56:26,780 of our budget presentation. 2116 05:56:26,780 --> 05:56:29,183 I will then come back and talk with you 2117 05:56:29,183 --> 05:56:33,983 about the impacts potentially of any reductions that 2118 05:56:35,244 --> 05:56:39,298 were required to make our Community and Family services. 2119 05:56:39,298 --> 05:56:41,298 Thank you. 2120 05:56:46,840 --> 05:56:47,668 >> Thank you comment director Thomas. 2121 05:56:47,668 --> 05:56:51,268 Good afternoon Mayor Demings, commissioners, controller, 2122 05:56:52,318 --> 05:56:53,244 administrator Brooks. 2123 05:56:53,244 --> 05:56:55,580 The presentation that I will proceed through, 2124 05:56:55,580 --> 05:56:59,780 I will cover first a brief -- 2125 05:57:44,718 --> 05:57:48,166 The parks system has nearly 15000 acres maintained 2126 05:57:48,166 --> 05:57:53,566 for the public to access, 13,000 acres for passive recreation 2127 05:57:54,838 --> 05:57:57,838 sparks, picnicking, and ritual activities. 2128 05:57:59,880 --> 05:58:02,976 Some of these highlights include 130 acres of athletic fields -- 2129 05:58:02,976 --> 05:58:07,126 that's 88 plus athletic fields, 11 public boat ramps, 2130 05:58:07,126 --> 05:58:08,431 six splash pads. 2131 05:58:08,431 --> 05:58:11,973 We will soon have two pools, one at Fort Gatlin and one 2132 05:58:11,973 --> 05:58:16,773 at tangelo, 13 dog parks, and equestrian venue, Stadium, 2133 05:58:16,838 --> 05:58:21,382 five family campgrounds, which see nearly 35,000 camping nights 2134 05:58:21,382 --> 05:58:23,382 reserved each year. 2135 05:58:23,614 --> 05:58:27,880 We also maintain 57 miles of main trails. 2136 05:58:27,880 --> 05:58:30,110 These are paved pedestrian trails. 2137 05:58:30,110 --> 05:58:32,718 These trails make connections throughout Orange County 2138 05:58:32,718 --> 05:58:34,758 and into three surrounding counties, offering 2139 05:58:34,758 --> 05:58:38,358 a very popular multi-modal recreation transportation 2140 05:58:38,563 --> 05:58:39,528 system. 2141 05:58:39,528 --> 05:58:43,998 As you are aware we also have 12 recreation centers 2142 05:58:43,998 --> 05:58:45,318 in our system. 2143 05:58:45,318 --> 05:58:48,531 Six of those are gymnasiums with collegiate courts, 2144 05:58:48,531 --> 05:58:50,531 NBA sized courts. 2145 05:58:50,610 --> 05:58:53,838 Six of these gymnasiums are prepared each year 2146 05:58:53,838 --> 05:58:57,709 to serve in case there is an emergency need for shelters. 2147 05:58:57,709 --> 05:59:00,454 We also serve the community to access relief 2148 05:59:00,454 --> 05:59:02,750 from heat or extreme cold. 2149 05:59:02,750 --> 05:59:05,750 With over 50 unique interior spaces, 2150 05:59:06,318 --> 05:59:08,660 our partnerships and recreation centers 2151 05:59:08,660 --> 05:59:11,178 make it possible for over 120 local nonprofit clubs 2152 05:59:11,178 --> 05:59:14,458 and organizations to host gatherings and serve 2153 05:59:14,458 --> 05:59:15,628 the community. 2154 05:59:15,628 --> 05:59:19,538 All these wonderful spaces are the perfect setting 2155 05:59:19,538 --> 05:59:22,728 for creating lasting memories and building community 2156 05:59:22,728 --> 05:59:25,280 through activities and gatherings. 2157 05:59:25,280 --> 05:59:27,411 I will review some of those. 2158 05:59:27,411 --> 05:59:29,331 A favorite program of kids and parents 2159 05:59:29,331 --> 05:59:32,618 alike for the fun and affordability are summer camps. 2160 05:59:32,618 --> 05:59:35,302 We are currently operating 12 summer camps at present. 2161 05:59:35,302 --> 05:59:37,918 We have after school programs that will pick up 2162 05:59:37,918 --> 05:59:40,318 at 13 locations here shortly. 2163 05:59:41,758 --> 05:59:45,248 A sense of achievement is a goal with all of our recreation 2164 05:59:45,248 --> 05:59:48,478 programs and those offered by our sports partners. 2165 05:59:48,478 --> 05:59:51,471 The division prepares nearly 90 athletic fields 2166 05:59:51,471 --> 05:59:53,364 on a daily basis. 2167 05:59:53,364 --> 05:59:56,150 These fields host over 7000 of our local kids 2168 05:59:56,150 --> 05:59:59,518 who play soccer, baseball, football, lacrosse, 2169 05:59:59,518 --> 06:00:03,624 and softball in leagues offered with our youth sports partners. 2170 06:00:03,624 --> 06:00:06,578 The county officially partners with 13 youth partners 2171 06:00:06,578 --> 06:00:09,174 to provide recreational and instructional support 2172 06:00:09,174 --> 06:00:11,298 to school aged youth. 2173 06:00:11,298 --> 06:00:14,534 There is 225 private sport clubs and travel 2174 06:00:14,534 --> 06:00:18,478 teams that routinely rent our facilities to train and play. 2175 06:00:18,478 --> 06:00:22,608 Kids grow up and they keep on playing. 2176 06:00:22,608 --> 06:00:26,206 Adult athletics in Orange County is robust. 2177 06:00:26,206 --> 06:00:28,664 We host a variety of adult sport activities. 2178 06:00:28,664 --> 06:00:33,291 Among these favorites are softball, inline hockey, tennis, 2179 06:00:33,291 --> 06:00:35,998 pickleball, disc golf, and basketball 2180 06:00:35,998 --> 06:00:37,998 throughout the county. 2181 06:00:38,638 --> 06:00:40,638 Nothing slows down. 2182 06:00:40,828 --> 06:00:43,318 Our maturing active adults in Orange County 2183 06:00:43,318 --> 06:00:47,812 paramedic the Renaissance Senior Center and Marsh Street Senior 2184 06:00:47,812 --> 06:00:50,104 Recreation Complex continue to be favorite destinations 2185 06:00:50,104 --> 06:00:52,718 for recreation and fitness with Oliver 1900 2186 06:00:52,718 --> 06:00:56,112 Senior Adult fitness memberships between these two centers 2187 06:00:56,112 --> 06:00:58,958 and 1900 hours of senior volunteers. 2188 06:00:58,958 --> 06:01:01,178 It is evident that our mature adults 2189 06:01:01,178 --> 06:01:02,822 are living life to the full. 2190 06:01:02,822 --> 06:01:05,898 Many senior adults also invest their time 2191 06:01:05,898 --> 06:01:10,510 back into the community through our Adopt a Park programs 2192 06:01:10,510 --> 06:01:13,228 and two nonprofit friends of corporations that 2193 06:01:13,228 --> 06:01:15,628 assist their favorite park. 2194 06:01:16,410 --> 06:01:20,218 Special events in the parks are one of our favorite ways 2195 06:01:20,218 --> 06:01:21,898 to give back to the community. 2196 06:01:21,898 --> 06:01:24,398 Music festivals like the Mayor's Jazz 2197 06:01:24,398 --> 06:01:27,504 Festival at Cypress Grove Park, the Bluegrass Festival 2198 06:01:27,504 --> 06:01:31,294 its Christmas Park line up right alongside our family fun events. 2199 06:01:31,294 --> 06:01:34,608 Some of those are award winning movies in the parks, 2200 06:01:34,608 --> 06:01:39,542 Pine Castle pioneer Days, and our crazy cardboard Canoe 2201 06:01:39,542 --> 06:01:41,878 Regatta at Kelly Park. 2202 06:01:41,878 --> 06:01:44,828 Lastly holiday events are a favorite for everyone. 2203 06:01:44,828 --> 06:01:49,878 We don't want you to miss our 48th Annual Cracker Christmas 2204 06:01:49,878 --> 06:01:52,678 at Fort Christmas Historical Park this December. 2205 06:01:52,678 --> 06:01:55,678 Our sixth gymnasium recreation centers 2206 06:01:56,458 --> 06:01:58,380 and two senior recreation centers 2207 06:01:58,380 --> 06:02:00,398 all feature a personal fitness facility 2208 06:02:00,398 --> 06:02:04,488 with treadmills, free weights, and resistance machines. 2209 06:02:04,488 --> 06:02:06,534 There are actually nine across the county where 2210 06:02:06,534 --> 06:02:10,582 you can achieve fitness or with the same membership pass. 2211 06:02:10,582 --> 06:02:12,596 It's easy to stay fit. 2212 06:02:12,596 --> 06:02:15,540 You don't have an excuse if you live in a far reaching area 2213 06:02:15,540 --> 06:02:15,998 of the county. 2214 06:02:15,998 --> 06:02:16,778 Colored. 2215 06:02:16,778 --> 06:02:21,674 School aged children is eligible for a free youth membership 2216 06:02:21,674 --> 06:02:25,102 so they can gather right after school and on weekends 2217 06:02:25,102 --> 06:02:28,990 with time set aside specifically for their age group. 2218 06:02:28,990 --> 06:02:30,431 There are nearly 6900 youth enjoying 2219 06:02:30,431 --> 06:02:32,431 this special membership. 2220 06:02:33,838 --> 06:02:35,630 Now I'd like to celebrate with you 2221 06:02:35,630 --> 06:02:38,880 some of your recently completed parks capital projects. 2222 06:02:38,880 --> 06:02:42,944 Barbara Park now features a new state park designed 2223 06:02:42,944 --> 06:02:44,998 by and for skaters of all ages. 2224 06:02:44,998 --> 06:02:47,942 The Mayor and Commissioner Uribe opened this too much fairy 2225 06:02:47,942 --> 06:02:52,142 affair in == to much fanfare in February. 2226 06:02:53,891 --> 06:02:58,691 A new parking lot and a traffic roundabout. 2227 06:03:00,780 --> 06:03:03,662 Little econ Greenway trail gap has been completed. 2228 06:03:03,662 --> 06:03:05,963 This short section of the little Econ Greenway 2229 06:03:05,963 --> 06:03:08,630 is a step towards completing the connection between Forsyth Road 2230 06:03:08,630 --> 06:03:15,830 and a future crossing of State Road 436 to the Katy Way Trail. 2231 06:03:16,278 --> 06:03:18,382 Horizon West Regional Park was popular 2232 06:03:18,382 --> 06:03:22,658 before we could even get the gates open and more so 2233 06:03:22,658 --> 06:03:25,380 since the ribbon cutting officially 2234 06:03:25,380 --> 06:03:29,138 conducted by the Mayor and Commissioner Wilson in February. 2235 06:03:29,138 --> 06:03:30,878 This playground is out of this world. 2236 06:03:30,878 --> 06:03:32,898 It is the highest elements we have. 2237 06:03:32,898 --> 06:03:34,538 And there is more to come. 2238 06:03:34,538 --> 06:03:37,678 We'll talk about that in a moment. 2239 06:03:37,678 --> 06:03:40,248 Lake Apopka loop Connector trail one 2240 06:03:40,248 --> 06:03:43,224 of the most beautiful sections of our mainline trails. 2241 06:03:43,224 --> 06:03:44,891 This was opened in February of this year 2242 06:03:44,891 --> 06:03:48,718 thanks in large part to the wonderful collaboration 2243 06:03:48,718 --> 06:03:52,278 from Orange County Utilities and Public Works. 2244 06:03:52,278 --> 06:03:54,334 With the completion of this loop connector trail 2245 06:03:54,334 --> 06:03:56,158 it is now possible to circumnavigate 2246 06:03:56,158 --> 06:04:00,542 the entirety of Lake Apopka on a network of trails that 2247 06:04:00,542 --> 06:04:03,140 goes from Orange County into Lake County and returns 2248 06:04:03,140 --> 06:04:05,140 to our trailheads. 2249 06:04:06,358 --> 06:04:10,918 Now let's highlight several of your current and ongoing CIP 2250 06:04:10,918 --> 06:04:12,918 projects. 2251 06:04:13,918 --> 06:04:17,750 Watermark Park Project is a new project 2252 06:04:17,750 --> 06:04:19,278 for Horizon West Community. 2253 06:04:19,278 --> 06:04:23,326 Features a playground, shade trees, open play areas, 2254 06:04:23,326 --> 06:04:25,751 and a picnic pavilion all with direct access 2255 06:04:25,751 --> 06:04:27,782 for the kids at Panther Lake Elementary School. 2256 06:04:27,782 --> 06:04:29,798 We are finalizing progress on that 2257 06:04:29,798 --> 06:04:32,574 and it should be open before the year's end. 2258 06:04:32,574 --> 06:04:36,191 Our ongoing efforts to increase safety for players on our fields 2259 06:04:36,191 --> 06:04:38,108 and improve our power consumption efficiencies 2260 06:04:38,108 --> 06:04:41,838 was played out this year at Downey Park. 2261 06:04:41,838 --> 06:04:43,583 Youth and adults on five diamond fields 2262 06:04:43,583 --> 06:04:48,780 will be playing on a new LED support lighting. 2263 06:04:48,780 --> 06:04:51,218 Barbara Park is on track for a new recreation 2264 06:04:51,218 --> 06:04:52,238 center and gymnasium. 2265 06:04:52,238 --> 06:04:55,476 The seventh such center serving the county. 2266 06:04:55,476 --> 06:04:57,180 Design of this new facility continues 2267 06:04:57,180 --> 06:05:02,418 and we are anticipating an opening date sometime in 2028. 2268 06:05:03,238 --> 06:05:06,238 Silverleaf neighborhood Park, master planning 2269 06:05:07,820 --> 06:05:08,778 was recently completed. 2270 06:05:08,778 --> 06:05:11,158 Now the project will be moving towards design. 2271 06:05:11,158 --> 06:05:12,768 This is a community driven plan. 2272 06:05:12,768 --> 06:05:18,768 With top amenities designed to mimic those of Watermark Park. 2273 06:05:20,118 --> 06:05:22,691 Downey Park new skate facility is 2274 06:05:22,691 --> 06:05:24,448 close to being awarded for construction. 2275 06:05:24,448 --> 06:05:27,818 We anticipate an opening in the fall of 27. 2276 06:05:27,818 --> 06:05:31,138 This will feature some of the favorite streetscape elements 2277 06:05:31,138 --> 06:05:34,138 that our community frequently request. 2278 06:05:35,998 --> 06:05:38,982 Mary Demings and Commissioner Wilson 2279 06:05:38,982 --> 06:05:41,478 broke ground on the next phase of construction 2280 06:05:41,478 --> 06:05:43,942 for Horizon West Regional Park. 2281 06:05:43,942 --> 06:05:47,798 On June 18th phase one B was launched and includes a splash 2282 06:05:47,798 --> 06:05:50,480 pad, additional parking capacity, 2283 06:05:50,480 --> 06:05:52,471 and a watercraft launch and Julie Hartley. 2284 06:05:52,471 --> 06:05:53,846 We're looking forward to a ribbon 2285 06:05:53,846 --> 06:05:56,846 cutting in late summer of 27. 2286 06:05:57,380 --> 06:06:00,638 The Magnolia Park Solar Panel project 2287 06:06:01,598 --> 06:06:04,694 for the Magnolia Eco Tourism Center 2288 06:06:04,694 --> 06:06:07,694 is being bid for construction. 2289 06:06:10,878 --> 06:06:16,243 And Horizon West Trail phase one A is being bid. 2290 06:06:16,243 --> 06:06:19,378 This will connect eventually horizon West Trail systems 2291 06:06:19,378 --> 06:06:22,378 to the West orange Trail. 2292 06:06:23,158 --> 06:06:26,158 Timber Bridge Preserve is currently 2293 06:06:27,280 --> 06:06:28,246 in the permitting phase. 2294 06:06:28,246 --> 06:06:30,742 We are working through the recent comments 2295 06:06:30,742 --> 06:06:33,142 in 20 resolution early in 2027. 2296 06:06:35,358 --> 06:06:39,513 Lake Eleanor Community Park is in final design 2297 06:06:39,513 --> 06:06:42,513 and anticipated for construction in 2029. 2298 06:06:45,438 --> 06:06:50,789 Work is ongoing to restore much of the previously built out area 2299 06:06:50,789 --> 06:06:53,238 on the east side of Blanchard Park com 2300 06:06:53,238 --> 06:06:55,523 where we'll be adding the new passive recreation 2301 06:06:55,523 --> 06:06:58,523 areas for families to gather. 2302 06:06:59,118 --> 06:07:03,264 A hundred years of parks and recreation 2303 06:07:03,264 --> 06:07:05,784 means there's facilities that are just outdated. 2304 06:07:05,784 --> 06:07:09,790 Replacing some of these outdated and inoperable and under 2305 06:07:09,790 --> 06:07:13,246 restrooms are an existing priority for us. 2306 06:07:13,246 --> 06:07:15,780 New universally accessible designs 2307 06:07:15,780 --> 06:07:18,318 are underway for both campgrounds at Trimble Park 2308 06:07:18,318 --> 06:07:24,718 and Camp Joy and for the day use restroom at Moss Park. 2309 06:07:24,718 --> 06:07:27,254 The Parks and Recreation Master Plan update 2310 06:07:27,254 --> 06:07:29,713 applies to the entire park system countywide. 2311 06:07:29,713 --> 06:07:33,778 We anticipate an award for that contract before the year's end. 2312 06:07:33,778 --> 06:07:36,598 Then we will begin community and stakeholder outreach 2313 06:07:36,598 --> 06:07:38,998 to gauge overall needs. 2314 06:07:40,198 --> 06:07:44,102 Orange county's portion of the Shingle Creek Trail 2315 06:07:44,102 --> 06:07:48,342 is in district six and district one, starting at Sand Lake 2316 06:07:48,342 --> 06:07:51,408 and running to the orange, Osceola County line. 2317 06:07:51,408 --> 06:07:54,780 Phase one segments two and three have been awarded 2318 06:07:54,780 --> 06:07:56,222 and construction will begin this year. 2319 06:07:56,222 --> 06:07:59,148 This section is largely comprised of elevated boardwalk 2320 06:07:59,148 --> 06:08:01,610 along beautiful sections of Shingle Creek 2321 06:08:01,610 --> 06:08:02,786 and as always with our trail projects 2322 06:08:02,786 --> 06:08:05,533 this work is coordinated through Orange County Public Works. 2323 06:08:05,533 --> 06:08:08,533 We appreciate that very much. 2324 06:08:09,318 --> 06:08:12,198 Waterloo Park North is in the bidding phase, 2325 06:08:12,198 --> 06:08:14,344 still on track with that top ranked amenities 2326 06:08:14,344 --> 06:08:16,544 for the community our playground, 2327 06:08:16,544 --> 06:08:20,388 basketball court, walking paths, and a multi-purpose open space 2328 06:08:20,388 --> 06:08:22,388 area. 2329 06:08:22,998 --> 06:08:27,198 Waterloo Park South also the neighborhood park, 2330 06:08:27,638 --> 06:08:30,638 similar amenities including top amenities 2331 06:08:30,898 --> 06:08:34,998 such as the playground, picnic pavilions, multipurpose court, 2332 06:08:34,998 --> 06:08:36,998 and walking loop. 2333 06:08:38,158 --> 06:08:42,358 For fiscal year 26, 27, our proposed capital projects 2334 06:08:43,248 --> 06:08:45,454 are conservative and focus on our goal 2335 06:08:45,454 --> 06:08:49,344 now of maintaining safe, clean, and fun parks 2336 06:08:49,344 --> 06:08:51,694 where our community can create lasting memories. 2337 06:08:51,694 --> 06:08:55,350 As our parks system is turning the corner from its 100 year 2338 06:08:55,350 --> 06:08:57,166 birthday, it's an ongoing effort of ours 2339 06:08:57,166 --> 06:09:01,980 to maintain safe play structures, buildings, fields, 2340 06:09:01,980 --> 06:09:02,718 and parks. 2341 06:09:02,718 --> 06:09:05,780 Our budget reflects these recurring capital needs. 2342 06:09:05,780 --> 06:09:09,118 Some of those reflected here are trails and asphalt repairs 2343 06:09:09,118 --> 06:09:11,380 throughout the county. 2344 06:09:11,380 --> 06:09:13,338 Our work with the National Pollutant discharge areas 2345 06:09:13,338 --> 06:09:15,462 that are scattered throughout our parks, 2346 06:09:15,462 --> 06:09:19,398 but ongoing work and repairs and rebuilds 2347 06:09:19,398 --> 06:09:23,238 of boardwalks and bridges, and our public boat ramps. 2348 06:09:23,238 --> 06:09:25,558 Constant use of pools, splash pads, 2349 06:09:25,558 --> 06:09:28,438 and in and out of the public areas and surfaces 2350 06:09:28,438 --> 06:09:32,142 is a constant demand, which we need to address, 2351 06:09:32,142 --> 06:09:36,342 as is gymnasiums, athletic surfacing, roofs, lightning 2352 06:09:36,748 --> 06:09:40,510 protection, and then with the constant demand on playing 2353 06:09:40,510 --> 06:09:42,814 fields and playgrounds, there is work 2354 06:09:42,814 --> 06:09:45,342 to be done each year on those as well. 2355 06:09:45,342 --> 06:09:47,618 These might not be glamorous projects, 2356 06:09:47,618 --> 06:09:50,230 but they are necessary to meet the level of service 2357 06:09:50,230 --> 06:09:51,988 that our community has come to appreciate 2358 06:09:51,988 --> 06:09:53,886 and for Orange County. 2359 06:09:53,886 --> 06:09:57,180 Our plant safety and efficiency work 2360 06:09:57,180 --> 06:09:58,618 continues with a lighting upgrade 2361 06:09:58,618 --> 06:10:01,728 proposal for another of our popular youth baseball 2362 06:10:01,728 --> 06:10:02,313 complexes. 2363 06:10:02,313 --> 06:10:05,913 This year at George Bailey Park. 2364 06:10:06,774 --> 06:10:10,974 Lastly as mentioned earlier in the presentation, 2365 06:10:11,224 --> 06:10:14,830 construction on phase one B of Horizon West Regional Park 2366 06:10:14,830 --> 06:10:16,830 began in June. 2367 06:10:16,878 --> 06:10:18,558 Where requesting additional funding 2368 06:10:18,558 --> 06:10:22,702 to construct a combined services building near the Pavilion 2369 06:10:22,702 --> 06:10:25,178 and event area on the east side of Park. 2370 06:10:25,178 --> 06:10:27,178 This partnered approach to serving the community 2371 06:10:27,178 --> 06:10:31,278 will feature a mini station for sector two of the Orange County 2372 06:10:31,278 --> 06:10:34,408 Sheriff's Office, alongside a public restroom and parks 2373 06:10:34,408 --> 06:10:36,408 Maintenance office. 2374 06:10:37,318 --> 06:10:40,634 Thank you for your time and I will 2375 06:10:40,634 --> 06:10:46,634 let this time turn it back over to Director Thomas. 2376 06:10:50,945 --> 06:10:54,438 >> It's always amazing to consider all the our parks 2377 06:10:54,438 --> 06:10:58,854 and Recreation Division does and the broad scope 2378 06:10:58,854 --> 06:11:04,854 of the facilities and trails and fields that they manage, 2379 06:11:07,902 --> 06:11:12,618 very spectacular asset for our county and a long held 2380 06:11:12,618 --> 06:11:16,218 for the -- long held investment. 2381 06:11:18,902 --> 06:11:21,158 We return to our assignment of also 2382 06:11:21,158 --> 06:11:24,780 imagining a world where we unfortunately 2383 06:11:24,780 --> 06:11:26,478 have to implement reductions. 2384 06:11:27,718 --> 06:11:32,518 In our considering this, we feel that it 2385 06:11:35,490 --> 06:11:40,220 is going to hit us perhaps most heavily in some 2386 06:11:40,220 --> 06:11:43,798 of the costs associated with our programing. 2387 06:11:43,798 --> 06:11:48,502 As I have mentioned, more than half of our budget 2388 06:11:48,502 --> 06:11:51,390 pertains to general revenue funds. 2389 06:11:51,390 --> 06:11:57,718 We are looking at not being able to hire additional staff, 2390 06:11:57,718 --> 06:12:01,246 and probably hiring freezes if we 2391 06:12:01,246 --> 06:12:03,918 are required to make a significant reduction. 2392 06:12:03,918 --> 06:12:08,718 This would have an impact throughout our department. 2393 06:12:09,608 --> 06:12:11,630 I have already described how hard 2394 06:12:11,630 --> 06:12:17,228 we have worked to hire, retain, and train our staff. 2395 06:12:17,228 --> 06:12:21,198 When it comes to programing, we can pretty much 2396 06:12:21,198 --> 06:12:24,858 go down the list of nearly all the programs that 2397 06:12:24,858 --> 06:12:27,102 were on that first pie chart where 2398 06:12:27,102 --> 06:12:31,302 we listed the general revenue funded programs, 2399 06:12:31,468 --> 06:12:33,778 and even some of our grant programs 2400 06:12:33,778 --> 06:12:36,240 could potentially be affected. 2401 06:12:36,240 --> 06:12:40,224 The eviction prevention programs in the community, 2402 06:12:41,428 --> 06:12:45,742 which we lovingly refer to as epic, is an example. 2403 06:12:45,742 --> 06:12:49,128 This is a crisis funding for households 2404 06:12:49,128 --> 06:12:53,328 that are having trouble sustaining their rent. 2405 06:12:53,978 --> 06:12:56,978 Our veterans services, our family 2406 06:12:58,538 --> 06:13:00,938 and children's counseling programs 2407 06:13:01,638 --> 06:13:04,380 would likely be impacted. 2408 06:13:04,726 --> 06:13:07,718 Some more of those are listed here. 2409 06:13:07,718 --> 06:13:10,998 Great Oaks Village, Children's services programs 2410 06:13:10,998 --> 06:13:14,358 that are funded through the Citizens 2411 06:13:14,358 --> 06:13:18,558 Commission for children, funding levels of over 30 2412 06:13:19,131 --> 06:13:23,931 million their in total. $2 million citizens Safety Task 2413 06:13:24,758 --> 06:13:27,980 Force paramedic these are programs 2414 06:13:27,980 --> 06:13:30,494 that I don't necessarily anticipate we will be proposing 2415 06:13:30,494 --> 06:13:37,458 to eliminate, but we would have to consider a level of funding 2416 06:13:37,458 --> 06:13:39,894 that could go to the programs. 2417 06:13:39,894 --> 06:13:44,438 We have family preservation and stabilization as well as 2418 06:13:44,438 --> 06:13:48,380 our pregnant and parenting teen program, 2419 06:13:49,251 --> 06:13:52,251 the parenting supports another example 2420 06:13:52,646 --> 06:13:55,460 of a potential reduction. 2421 06:13:55,758 --> 06:14:00,940 We have made strides in our planning and efforts related 2422 06:14:00,940 --> 06:14:02,286 to human trafficking that would have 2423 06:14:02,286 --> 06:14:05,718 to be rethought to some extent. 2424 06:14:05,718 --> 06:14:11,118 And the work that our citizens review panel funds, 2425 06:14:11,598 --> 06:14:16,398 including child care slots and food insecurity initiatives, 2426 06:14:16,571 --> 06:14:19,571 would have to be rethought. 2427 06:14:19,782 --> 06:14:21,838 Our neighborhood centers for children 2428 06:14:21,838 --> 06:14:26,380 are very well utilized programs and spread 2429 06:14:26,598 --> 06:14:28,598 throughout the county. 2430 06:14:29,238 --> 06:14:31,870 We would perhaps have some difficulty 2431 06:14:31,870 --> 06:14:35,774 in the levels of investment that we 2432 06:14:35,774 --> 06:14:41,918 could make in their programs, not to mention the after school 2433 06:14:41,918 --> 06:14:48,518 zone that currently operates out of all of the middle schools. 2434 06:14:48,584 --> 06:14:51,651 We would have to look hard at that. 2435 06:14:51,651 --> 06:14:55,851 Those programs contribute to preventing juvenile delinquency 2436 06:14:55,851 --> 06:14:58,502 because if they give children something 2437 06:14:58,502 --> 06:15:01,838 to do during that downtime between school 2438 06:15:01,838 --> 06:15:05,438 and when working parents return home. 2439 06:15:06,380 --> 06:15:09,638 And the cooperative extension, regrettably there 2440 06:15:11,538 --> 06:15:13,984 are counties in the state that are rethinking 2441 06:15:13,984 --> 06:15:18,184 their partnerships with IFIS because of concerns 2442 06:15:20,134 --> 06:15:21,350 about funding. 2443 06:15:21,350 --> 06:15:25,613 I would hope that that would not be the case for us, 2444 06:15:25,613 --> 06:15:31,613 but it is a program that does receive some support 2445 06:15:32,300 --> 06:15:34,430 from our general revenues. 2446 06:15:35,590 --> 06:15:39,894 We just need to think about the relative priorities of all 2447 06:15:39,894 --> 06:15:43,126 of these things that we do. 2448 06:15:43,126 --> 06:15:45,638 Climate efficiency program, we are 2449 06:15:45,638 --> 06:15:47,880 very proud that we helped seniors 2450 06:15:47,880 --> 06:15:49,934 stay comfortable in their homes by helping 2451 06:15:49,934 --> 06:15:53,910 them replace their Hvac systems and make other life saving 2452 06:15:53,910 --> 06:15:55,651 home improvements. 2453 06:15:55,651 --> 06:15:59,251 Our community centers are these jewels 2454 06:15:59,870 --> 06:16:05,270 that are well utilized within many of our communities. 2455 06:16:05,525 --> 06:16:08,624 Well used by the county and well used 2456 06:16:08,624 --> 06:16:12,863 by citizens for their own activities and events. 2457 06:16:12,863 --> 06:16:18,270 We would really have to look at the hours perhaps, 2458 06:16:18,270 --> 06:16:21,718 maybe the level of security that we 2459 06:16:21,718 --> 06:16:27,118 are able to supply, again, rethinking our operations there. 2460 06:16:29,198 --> 06:16:32,838 And we make a large investment in mental health 2461 06:16:32,838 --> 06:16:36,766 and homelessness, some of which I described to you earlier. 2462 06:16:36,766 --> 06:16:40,851 Again, we would need to perhaps do less 2463 06:16:40,851 --> 06:16:45,398 than we plan to do going forward if we have 2464 06:16:45,398 --> 06:16:48,192 less funding available to us and perhaps 2465 06:16:48,192 --> 06:16:53,306 one or more new initiatives will have to be delayed. 2466 06:16:53,306 --> 06:16:58,569 The Head Start program, which we know and love 2467 06:16:58,569 --> 06:17:01,238 and I should say award winning, we 2468 06:17:01,238 --> 06:17:04,838 were notified of five more awards 2469 06:17:05,598 --> 06:17:07,728 just this week for that program. 2470 06:17:07,728 --> 06:17:10,950 They're making a presentation to you 2471 06:17:10,950 --> 06:17:14,550 also in October, their annual report. 2472 06:17:16,518 --> 06:17:19,651 You will certainly hear about it then if not beforehand. 2473 06:17:19,651 --> 06:17:26,683 In any event, this is largely federal funded, what I showed -- 2474 06:17:26,683 --> 06:17:30,971 but I showed you that $5 million of federal revenue helped 2475 06:17:30,971 --> 06:17:34,870 supplement the operations of that amazing program. 2476 06:17:34,870 --> 06:17:39,670 And then of course, our manager Kyle Kent 2477 06:17:39,824 --> 06:17:43,678 has just outlined for you the vast amount of work 2478 06:17:43,678 --> 06:17:49,678 that goes into operation of our parks and Recreation division. 2479 06:17:50,238 --> 06:17:54,438 That's a very dynamic and will utilize 2480 06:17:55,780 --> 06:18:00,478 team that has a very diverse set of responsibilities 2481 06:18:01,378 --> 06:18:05,578 for the vast property management facility management 2482 06:18:07,240 --> 06:18:13,240 and programing that is managed their paramedic there would be 2483 06:18:13,578 --> 06:18:15,474 a collection of things we would have 2484 06:18:15,474 --> 06:18:20,363 to consider related to the parks and Recreation operation. 2485 06:18:20,363 --> 06:18:26,363 From deferring some things that we currently have planned to 2486 06:18:27,418 --> 06:18:31,180 reductions in hiring and the like 2487 06:18:32,240 --> 06:18:35,240 would need to be considered. 2488 06:18:41,539 --> 06:18:46,638 And on top of all that, like other parts 2489 06:18:46,638 --> 06:18:49,398 of the county's operation, we have some unfunded mandates 2490 06:18:49,398 --> 06:18:51,151 that are things that we would have 2491 06:18:51,151 --> 06:18:55,662 to pay for regardless of any other kinds of reductions 2492 06:18:55,662 --> 06:18:59,262 that we would have to consider. 2493 06:18:59,630 --> 06:19:02,758 One are the health mandated costs 2494 06:19:02,758 --> 06:19:06,358 for the medical examinations we are 2495 06:19:08,744 --> 06:19:12,673 responsible for paying for for abused, abandoned, and neglected 2496 06:19:12,673 --> 06:19:13,228 children. 2497 06:19:13,228 --> 06:19:18,395 We bear the total cost for those at the state's behest. 2498 06:19:18,395 --> 06:19:23,195 Similarly the juvenile detention center, we invest $4.2 million. 2499 06:19:26,597 --> 06:19:29,406 We in other counties are required 2500 06:19:29,406 --> 06:19:32,858 to share the cost of juvenile secure detention 2501 06:19:32,858 --> 06:19:35,858 with the state of Florida. 2502 06:19:35,941 --> 06:19:39,541 That comes out of our budget. 2503 06:19:41,598 --> 06:19:49,398 In summary, I would say that even though this has been and is 2504 06:19:49,461 --> 06:19:54,558 a status quo year, we in community and family services 2505 06:19:54,558 --> 06:19:58,891 are very excited about all that we have initiated. 2506 06:19:58,891 --> 06:20:01,654 And we look forward to continuing 2507 06:20:01,654 --> 06:20:06,454 the implementation of our brand new Magellan concept. 2508 06:20:06,878 --> 06:20:11,526 We will continue to work on our strategic plan. 2509 06:20:11,526 --> 06:20:15,126 We have made great progress there. 2510 06:20:15,153 --> 06:20:19,353 We've already achieved seven of the 60 goals 2511 06:20:19,418 --> 06:20:22,418 that we've established for ourselves, 2512 06:20:23,400 --> 06:20:27,190 or I should say 60 strategies that we're pursuing. 2513 06:20:27,190 --> 06:20:31,158 And we have got almost 40 more that 2514 06:20:31,158 --> 06:20:33,340 are in very active development. 2515 06:20:33,340 --> 06:20:37,238 We are excited about what our teams are doing their. 2516 06:20:37,238 --> 06:20:42,980 And we are making strides in our ability to measure and monitor 2517 06:20:42,980 --> 06:20:47,498 our service delivery and the outcomes related to them. 2518 06:20:47,566 --> 06:20:50,678 We have a very committed and dedicated staff. 2519 06:20:50,678 --> 06:20:54,294 And I hope that you can recognize 2520 06:20:54,294 --> 06:20:59,940 the diversity of the visions, operations, and programs, 2521 06:20:59,717 --> 06:21:06,638 that we are responsible for that we do embody our slogan of where 2522 06:21:06,638 --> 06:21:12,638 joy lives, hope grows, and health happens for the Orange 2523 06:21:12,958 --> 06:21:14,138 County community. 2524 06:21:14,138 --> 06:21:21,338 With that, Kyle and I invite any questions that you may have. 2525 06:21:22,518 --> 06:21:25,758 Hopefully we can address those at this time. 2526 06:21:25,758 --> 06:21:27,758 Thank you. 2527 06:21:28,918 --> 06:21:30,742 >> All right. 2528 06:21:30,742 --> 06:21:32,558 It's working. 2529 06:21:32,558 --> 06:21:35,558 Commissioner Scott, you're up first. 2530 06:21:36,838 --> 06:21:38,232 >> Never a first. 2531 06:21:38,232 --> 06:21:41,158 I won the lottery today. 2532 06:21:41,158 --> 06:21:42,744 >> Good afternoon. 2533 06:21:42,744 --> 06:21:43,900 >> Thank you, everyone. 2534 06:21:43,900 --> 06:21:44,891 I have no questions. 2535 06:21:44,891 --> 06:21:47,620 I just want to say thank you. 2536 06:21:47,620 --> 06:21:49,335 I probably thought about half of you about once a week 2537 06:21:49,335 --> 06:21:50,710 depending on what the request is. 2538 06:21:50,710 --> 06:21:53,182 And so I just wanted to publicly say thank you 2539 06:21:53,182 --> 06:21:54,808 for what you've done. 2540 06:21:54,808 --> 06:21:56,558 Veteran services, head start. 2541 06:21:56,558 --> 06:21:59,910 Event and her team, thank you. 2542 06:21:59,910 --> 06:22:00,578 You guys have been phenomenal. 2543 06:22:00,578 --> 06:22:04,254 You've had some complex math problems across the district. 2544 06:22:04,254 --> 06:22:07,552 You guys always find a way to make sure 2545 06:22:07,552 --> 06:22:10,110 that the folks are informed and taken care of. 2546 06:22:10,110 --> 06:22:13,110 I sincerely appreciate you guys. 2547 06:22:13,918 --> 06:22:17,764 >> We are very happy and proud to be so relevant 2548 06:22:17,764 --> 06:22:21,511 to the priorities that you and the other commissioners have 2549 06:22:21,511 --> 06:22:26,518 when it comes to serving members of the community. 2550 06:22:26,518 --> 06:22:28,518 >> Commissioner Semrad. 2551 06:22:30,210 --> 06:22:32,210 >> Thank you, Mayor. 2552 06:22:33,425 --> 06:22:34,630 Thank you. 2553 06:22:34,630 --> 06:22:38,566 I want to ask a comment when you talk about the reduction -- 2554 06:22:38,566 --> 06:22:39,654 I'm sorry. 2555 06:22:39,654 --> 06:22:41,518 I didn't mean to not say thank you 2556 06:22:41,518 --> 06:22:46,948 because you guys do so much with not always a lot of resources. 2557 06:22:46,948 --> 06:22:51,414 The parks program, I am so impressed with how much you 2558 06:22:51,414 --> 06:22:54,142 contribute to the quality of life of our community 2559 06:22:54,142 --> 06:22:56,142 and of people. 2560 06:22:56,254 --> 06:23:01,678 At the Senior Center I go to, I am so impressed by seeing people 2561 06:23:01,678 --> 06:23:06,230 doing Tai Chi and swimming lessons and prevention -- 2562 06:23:06,230 --> 06:23:08,230 there's so much. 2563 06:23:08,318 --> 06:23:10,878 Thank you to all of your team. 2564 06:23:10,878 --> 06:23:15,775 I have a question, Kyle, for you in a minute 2565 06:23:15,775 --> 06:23:17,971 for something I saw on the news pertaining to savor. 2566 06:23:17,971 --> 06:23:19,846 Can you tell us what are the veteran services 2567 06:23:19,846 --> 06:23:20,886 that you provide? 2568 06:23:20,886 --> 06:23:23,580 What are services when you say we 2569 06:23:23,580 --> 06:23:25,902 could see a reduction in them? 2570 06:23:25,902 --> 06:23:29,618 What types of services are those that we are helping veterans 2571 06:23:29,618 --> 06:23:30,942 with? 2572 06:23:30,942 --> 06:23:33,644 >> One of the ones that is most popular is helping veterans 2573 06:23:33,644 --> 06:23:38,508 learn what it is they qualify for and literally hand-holding 2574 06:23:38,508 --> 06:23:43,128 them through the system of acquiring those services. 2575 06:23:43,128 --> 06:23:47,624 Not only veterans themselves but their family members 2576 06:23:47,624 --> 06:23:51,291 and dependents paramedic it is a system 2577 06:23:51,291 --> 06:23:55,478 that can be very difficult to understand and navigate. 2578 06:23:55,478 --> 06:24:00,334 And sometimes your first try is not very successful. 2579 06:24:00,334 --> 06:24:03,375 You have to keep coming back to it 2580 06:24:03,375 --> 06:24:07,575 and be very persistent in following up. 2581 06:24:07,858 --> 06:24:10,858 That's probably the single largest. 2582 06:24:11,534 --> 06:24:17,534 But there are other kinds of ways that we help 2583 06:24:17,598 --> 06:24:19,998 build connection for veterans. 2584 06:24:20,280 --> 06:24:26,280 In terms of counseling type services that they may need, 2585 06:24:27,222 --> 06:24:31,422 mental health services, connection with other veterans. 2586 06:24:34,460 --> 06:24:37,646 We have events of different sorts. 2587 06:24:38,318 --> 06:24:44,318 We are well resourced and have connections with other veteran 2588 06:24:44,798 --> 06:24:46,782 focused resources. 2589 06:24:46,782 --> 06:24:50,982 There is a pretty wide range actually. 2590 06:24:51,838 --> 06:24:55,691 We have an excellent reputation as well, 2591 06:24:55,691 --> 06:25:00,622 which serves as a real benefit to Orange County residents. 2592 06:25:00,622 --> 06:25:04,380 But we do have residents from other counties 2593 06:25:04,380 --> 06:25:08,966 that seek out our services because of how thorough 2594 06:25:08,966 --> 06:25:13,220 and relatable the work that our staff does. 2595 06:25:13,220 --> 06:25:16,574 People know that we care and we know what we were doing. 2596 06:25:16,574 --> 06:25:22,214 And we are successful at helping them navigate to a greater 2597 06:25:22,214 --> 06:25:26,128 extent than some other existing veteran services programs 2598 06:25:26,128 --> 06:25:27,718 that are out there. 2599 06:25:27,718 --> 06:25:30,978 >> I'd like to say in district five office hours, 2600 06:25:30,978 --> 06:25:33,270 sometimes when we hear from veterans who are struggling 2601 06:25:33,270 --> 06:25:36,708 to find housing or are unhoused, a lot of times 2602 06:25:36,708 --> 06:25:39,709 it's because it's because they couldn't figure out how 2603 06:25:39,709 --> 06:25:42,167 to access services and how to access the programs that they 2604 06:25:42,167 --> 06:25:42,667 need. 2605 06:25:42,667 --> 06:25:44,318 And I think it's important to reference 2606 06:25:44,318 --> 06:25:46,678 that when we talk about the tax reform 2607 06:25:46,678 --> 06:25:49,901 and if it passes that we begin to look at not being 2608 06:25:49,901 --> 06:25:53,486 able to care for people who went and fought for our country when 2609 06:25:53,486 --> 06:25:57,380 they come back damaged from the service. 2610 06:25:57,380 --> 06:26:00,100 So I think that is important to share. 2611 06:26:00,100 --> 06:26:04,798 I saw in the news that Sanford was 2612 06:26:04,798 --> 06:26:07,686 going to have to consider selling some of their parks 2613 06:26:07,686 --> 06:26:11,358 or charging admission in order to keep the parks open 2614 06:26:11,358 --> 06:26:13,974 if the property tax reform passes. 2615 06:26:13,974 --> 06:26:18,878 That is something that might have to happen in Orange County. 2616 06:26:18,878 --> 06:26:20,878 >> Selling parks? 2617 06:26:20,878 --> 06:26:23,673 >> Selling or charging admission to keep all the parks open 2618 06:26:23,673 --> 06:26:26,338 and sustain the way that they need to be common 2619 06:26:26,338 --> 06:26:29,478 if the property tax reform passes I'm saying. 2620 06:26:29,478 --> 06:26:30,380 >> Sure. 2621 06:26:30,380 --> 06:26:32,846 I think our first focus would be to facilitate the community's 2622 06:26:32,846 --> 06:26:34,313 access to the parks. 2623 06:26:34,313 --> 06:26:38,780 And then facilitate communities access to programs. 2624 06:26:38,780 --> 06:26:42,780 Certainly depending on how drastic things turn, 2625 06:26:42,780 --> 06:26:44,344 there might be an enterprise style approach 2626 06:26:44,344 --> 06:26:47,134 to some of the services aspects of it. 2627 06:26:47,134 --> 06:26:50,598 But the county right now only charges entry at two facilities. 2628 06:26:50,598 --> 06:26:53,880 That's Kelly Park and Moss Park. 2629 06:26:53,880 --> 06:26:56,688 Not anticipating changing those or charging 2630 06:26:57,222 --> 06:26:58,703 entry for other facilities. 2631 06:26:58,703 --> 06:27:02,571 Along with our master plan we have a fee study underway. 2632 06:27:02,571 --> 06:27:06,122 The last time we conducted a fee study for how much it costs 2633 06:27:06,122 --> 06:27:09,584 to provide services and provide a field turnover or a room 2634 06:27:09,584 --> 06:27:11,584 rental was in 2006. 2635 06:27:11,860 --> 06:27:15,778 With that coming back to us, that 2636 06:27:15,778 --> 06:27:17,974 might give us some direction to bring back and ask 2637 06:27:17,974 --> 06:27:19,182 for direction from the board. 2638 06:27:19,182 --> 06:27:22,380 Right now we are not anticipating changing fees 2639 06:27:22,380 --> 06:27:22,988 or access. 2640 06:27:22,988 --> 06:27:25,478 We're certainly not selling any properties. 2641 06:27:25,478 --> 06:27:30,820 >> But that is a consideration, to your point, Commissioner. 2642 06:27:30,820 --> 06:27:31,831 It very much is a possibility. 2643 06:27:31,831 --> 06:27:34,838 As we look at those fees and those costs. 2644 06:27:34,838 --> 06:27:39,380 Not selling, the second part of your request. 2645 06:27:39,380 --> 06:27:41,478 >> To the programs and services. 2646 06:27:41,478 --> 06:27:43,904 >> And more will be revealed once we have a fee study that 2647 06:27:43,904 --> 06:27:45,798 says what it costs to provide that. 2648 06:27:45,798 --> 06:27:46,422 >> Thank you. 2649 06:27:46,422 --> 06:27:47,885 One last question from us. 2650 06:27:47,885 --> 06:27:51,318 When you talk about the programs for youth that you provide 2651 06:27:51,318 --> 06:27:56,718 and that is to help reduce child delinquency behaviors, 2652 06:27:57,904 --> 06:28:01,878 how does that impact -- if those programs go away, 2653 06:28:01,878 --> 06:28:04,590 is there anything that you know in your industry that leads 2654 06:28:04,590 --> 06:28:08,878 to an increase in crime in our communities? 2655 06:28:08,878 --> 06:28:12,678 >> This is anecdotal for me at the moment, 2656 06:28:12,678 --> 06:28:18,430 although I bet we could stir up some studies that would make 2657 06:28:18,430 --> 06:28:20,830 a more credentialed view. 2658 06:28:23,180 --> 06:28:28,364 But I believe that we would see an increase if we were not 2659 06:28:28,364 --> 06:28:32,894 able to offer after school and other programs 2660 06:28:32,894 --> 06:28:36,838 such as what parks is able to make available. 2661 06:28:36,838 --> 06:28:41,380 What do kids have to do otherwise? 2662 06:28:41,918 --> 06:28:45,558 They are more likely to divert themselves 2663 06:28:45,558 --> 06:28:51,558 to activities that would not be as healthy for them, 2664 06:28:51,638 --> 06:28:55,238 some of which might be crime. 2665 06:28:55,238 --> 06:28:56,198 >> Thank you. 2666 06:28:56,198 --> 06:28:59,406 Of course everybody understands that an increase in crime 2667 06:28:59,406 --> 06:29:01,758 impacts the tourism economy significantly 2668 06:29:01,758 --> 06:29:04,378 where you begin to then see people opting out 2669 06:29:04,378 --> 06:29:09,390 of coming to Orlando for fear of public safety while they visit. 2670 06:29:09,390 --> 06:29:11,390 Thank you. 2671 06:29:16,864 --> 06:29:20,778 >> I see Alameda from the Veteran Services Office. 2672 06:29:20,778 --> 06:29:25,578 Come to the mic for just a moment. 2673 06:29:27,950 --> 06:29:31,550 >> Talk about some of our superstars. 2674 06:29:31,678 --> 06:29:34,678 We are loaded with them. 2675 06:29:35,998 --> 06:29:38,398 >> She's a veteran herself. 2676 06:29:39,278 --> 06:29:41,498 How many veterans are we currently serving 2677 06:29:41,498 --> 06:29:43,878 through our Veterans Service office? 2678 06:29:43,878 --> 06:29:48,780 >> We serve approximately about 24,000 out of about 71,000. 2679 06:29:58,417 --> 06:29:59,167 >> (indiscernible) 2680 06:29:59,167 --> 06:30:00,242 >> Yes, sir. 2681 06:30:00,242 --> 06:30:02,318 >> Does he have all his benefits? 2682 06:30:02,318 --> 06:30:03,638 >> Not yet. 2683 06:30:03,638 --> 06:30:04,308 >> Not yet. 2684 06:30:04,308 --> 06:30:05,638 I'm working on them. 2685 06:30:05,638 --> 06:30:09,331 >> Some you've got to work hard on. 2686 06:30:09,331 --> 06:30:10,424 I understand. 2687 06:30:10,424 --> 06:30:15,224 How are things going there with the office? 2688 06:30:16,678 --> 06:30:19,910 >> Right now we are doing good. 2689 06:30:19,910 --> 06:30:24,294 I would say that staffing is a little challenging because we 2690 06:30:24,294 --> 06:30:27,510 lost a few due to retirement. 2691 06:30:27,510 --> 06:30:31,219 So we are trying to make up and really 2692 06:30:31,219 --> 06:30:34,219 provide enough DSOs to manage. 2693 06:30:35,278 --> 06:30:37,910 We have three locations, the main office 2694 06:30:37,910 --> 06:30:40,910 and Lake Nona and Baldwin. 2695 06:30:41,878 --> 06:30:44,878 Having the staffing to do that would allow us to help more 2696 06:30:44,878 --> 06:30:48,264 beverages and get out into the -- 2697 06:30:48,264 --> 06:30:50,504 help more veterans and get out into the community. 2698 06:30:50,504 --> 06:30:52,462 We're always hearing I didn't know you existed. 2699 06:30:52,462 --> 06:30:55,150 We are trying to -- 2700 06:30:55,150 --> 06:31:00,340 >> I hear that sometimes and we encounter people who are 2701 06:31:00,340 --> 06:31:01,658 on the street. 2702 06:31:01,658 --> 06:31:06,648 Sometimes they are homeless and they say their veteran. 2703 06:31:06,648 --> 06:31:08,742 Sometimes they don't know whether -- 2704 06:31:08,742 --> 06:31:10,454 >> And sometimes they are not. 2705 06:31:10,454 --> 06:31:12,251 I'll be honest with you. 2706 06:31:12,251 --> 06:31:15,478 With that we do have veterans that are on the street, 2707 06:31:15,478 --> 06:31:19,131 but that is by choice because a lot of those veterans 2708 06:31:19,131 --> 06:31:21,998 are receiving benefits and we help them all the time. 2709 06:31:21,998 --> 06:31:25,998 When they don't get their check, you will see them in the office. 2710 06:31:25,998 --> 06:31:29,104 But as long as things are going and they field reps 2711 06:31:29,104 --> 06:31:31,878 are able to reach them wherever they are living 2712 06:31:31,878 --> 06:31:34,291 in the community, it is just by choice 2713 06:31:34,291 --> 06:31:37,238 and it's not that they don't have funding or money. 2714 06:31:37,238 --> 06:31:38,998 They have the money. 2715 06:31:38,998 --> 06:31:40,638 It is just choice. 2716 06:31:40,638 --> 06:31:44,964 >> Sometimes I don't know if they have other issues but they 2717 06:31:44,964 --> 06:31:46,240 are dealing with. 2718 06:31:46,240 --> 06:31:47,778 Thank you. 2719 06:31:47,778 --> 06:31:49,118 >> Thank you. 2720 06:31:49,118 --> 06:31:52,642 >> I just wanted to ask if there are services that you all 2721 06:31:52,642 --> 06:31:56,558 provide that I didn't think of in response to commissioners 2722 06:31:56,558 --> 06:31:58,158 question? 2723 06:31:58,158 --> 06:32:03,611 >> Those services, we do have veterans that are in need 2724 06:32:03,611 --> 06:32:05,110 of dental services. 2725 06:32:05,110 --> 06:32:08,138 Let's say a veteran that is 100% service connected 2726 06:32:08,138 --> 06:32:10,649 gets dental service from the VA. 2727 06:32:10,649 --> 06:32:14,878 Those who are not from the state as 2728 06:32:14,878 --> 06:32:18,774 given multiple programs a lot of money. 2729 06:32:18,774 --> 06:32:23,780 And we can submit referrals to those programs 2730 06:32:23,780 --> 06:32:25,468 for those veterans to get them into service. 2731 06:32:25,468 --> 06:32:27,851 Because nothing beats a great smile. 2732 06:32:27,851 --> 06:32:35,510 It makes you feel like a person when your teeth are great. 2733 06:32:35,278 --> 06:32:40,678 Other programs that SSPF, you work closely with them. 2734 06:32:42,430 --> 06:32:45,918 We have veterans who may have substance and mental health 2735 06:32:45,918 --> 06:32:49,448 issues they may need request for assistance through 2736 06:32:49,448 --> 06:32:55,448 our domiciliary programs at both Lake Nona and Lake Baldwin , 2737 06:32:56,304 --> 06:33:00,380 as well as Careersource and other agencies that we provide 2738 06:33:00,380 --> 06:33:02,438 referrals to for employment. 2739 06:33:03,358 --> 06:33:05,358 >> Thank you. 2740 06:33:06,358 --> 06:33:07,758 >> Thank you. 2741 06:33:07,758 --> 06:33:08,758 >> All right. 2742 06:33:08,758 --> 06:33:10,758 Commissioner Gomez Cordero. 2743 06:33:13,291 --> 06:33:14,816 >> Thank you, mayor. 2744 06:33:14,816 --> 06:33:15,824 Good afternoon, team. 2745 06:33:15,824 --> 06:33:18,950 I have to say that I have been part of this team more 2746 06:33:18,950 --> 06:33:20,238 than ten years. 2747 06:33:20,238 --> 06:33:22,358 Before it became a commissioner I was already 2748 06:33:22,358 --> 06:33:24,758 part of community action. 2749 06:33:24,854 --> 06:33:29,654 And also the panel advisory, Angela down there, 2750 06:33:30,838 --> 06:33:31,918 and I love it. 2751 06:33:31,918 --> 06:33:36,411 Thank you for everything you all do because I think you all 2752 06:33:36,411 --> 06:33:39,838 are one of the main services that we 2753 06:33:39,838 --> 06:33:42,489 need for what is going on in. 2754 06:33:42,489 --> 06:33:45,489 Let's put it that way. 2755 06:33:49,380 --> 06:33:54,158 Can you give me like very short, what does the pilot 2756 06:33:54,158 --> 06:33:57,158 Magellan going to be about? 2757 06:34:00,254 --> 06:34:03,438 >> One of the newer movements in our human services world 2758 06:34:03,438 --> 06:34:08,614 and really beyond that is the use of technology to help avoid 2759 06:34:08,614 --> 06:34:11,614 access to services from residents. 2760 06:34:12,482 --> 06:34:16,798 Also we could use that to make connections 2761 06:34:16,798 --> 06:34:19,798 between different kinds of services 2762 06:34:19,798 --> 06:34:23,998 easier so that perhaps one application process, 2763 06:34:25,505 --> 06:34:29,105 you can determine a person's eligibility 2764 06:34:30,662 --> 06:34:34,886 for any of the programs that we provide. 2765 06:34:34,886 --> 06:34:40,518 And that is our goal is to get to where that will be the case. 2766 06:34:40,518 --> 06:34:43,830 We also will be able to collect data 2767 06:34:43,830 --> 06:34:48,510 that helps to tell us how we are doing in that regard 2768 06:34:48,510 --> 06:34:52,110 and how resources are being utilized. 2769 06:34:54,238 --> 06:34:59,228 We expect that this is going to break down 2770 06:34:59,228 --> 06:35:02,374 the silos that currently exist not only 2771 06:35:02,374 --> 06:35:06,574 in how our customers access our services, 2772 06:35:07,218 --> 06:35:10,218 but also between ourselves internally 2773 06:35:11,158 --> 06:35:15,211 and it will make it easier and more streamlined 2774 06:35:15,211 --> 06:35:21,478 for us to serve a person without having to shuttle them so often 2775 06:35:21,478 --> 06:35:23,878 among our different programs. 2776 06:35:26,278 --> 06:35:30,718 We think it's going to be a game changer for us. 2777 06:35:30,718 --> 06:35:32,780 >> Thank you. 2778 06:35:32,780 --> 06:35:35,678 I have a question for Kyle. 2779 06:35:36,138 --> 06:35:40,938 I see that in your presentation and slide 65, 2780 06:35:43,262 --> 06:35:46,862 you said about the restroom replacement. 2781 06:35:48,518 --> 06:35:51,518 And I remember in 2020, 21, there 2782 06:35:54,251 --> 06:35:57,251 was a replacement already remodeling. 2783 06:35:57,478 --> 06:36:02,728 Was that the >> Moss Park is a large park. 2784 06:36:02,728 --> 06:36:04,310 We have a group campground. 2785 06:36:04,310 --> 06:36:05,628 We have regular campground. 2786 06:36:05,628 --> 06:36:07,862 And then we have a day use area. use The area. 2787 06:36:07,862 --> 06:36:09,404 restaurant we Yes are speaking Ma'am. 2788 06:36:09,404 --> 06:36:10,754 of here is the day use area. 2789 06:36:10,754 --> 06:36:12,870 >> That's what I wanted to know. 2790 06:36:12,870 --> 06:36:18,156 And then I wanted to ask you also, like for example, 2791 06:36:18,156 --> 06:36:21,409 the service at risk, I know you also, 2792 06:36:21,409 --> 06:36:26,209 for the park and recreation requested to supervisors. 2793 06:36:26,236 --> 06:36:28,636 And a warehouse specialist. 2794 06:36:29,276 --> 06:36:31,676 On the parks supervisor. 2795 06:36:31,756 --> 06:36:36,462 Do you think maybe because of all of this 2796 06:36:36,462 --> 06:36:39,460 you're going to put one supervisor to supervise 2797 06:36:39,460 --> 06:36:43,136 more than one park instead of one for each? 2798 06:36:43,136 --> 06:36:45,656 Or you don't get into that? 2799 06:36:45,656 --> 06:36:48,324 >> For the 114 parks that already exist, 2800 06:36:48,324 --> 06:36:53,376 we have roughly 32 man sites and then those serve to operate 2801 06:36:53,376 --> 06:36:55,612 the others as satellite parks. 2802 06:36:55,612 --> 06:36:59,973 We have a support section that oversees a lot of our pocket 2803 06:36:59,973 --> 06:37:02,973 parks but there's 32 man sites. 2804 06:37:03,520 --> 06:37:05,436 They spread themselves out and they service 2805 06:37:05,436 --> 06:37:07,196 multiple other parks as well. 2806 06:37:07,196 --> 06:37:09,256 They have a hub they work from. 2807 06:37:09,256 --> 06:37:11,256 That already exists. 2808 06:37:15,396 --> 06:37:16,188 >> Okay, thank you. 2809 06:37:16,188 --> 06:37:17,493 Thank you for all you do. 2810 06:37:17,493 --> 06:37:22,727 Thank you >> We'll go to commissioner Wilson and then 2811 06:37:22,727 --> 06:37:23,602 commissioner summary. 2812 06:37:23,602 --> 06:37:26,900 And the Sheriff is on deck outside. 2813 06:37:26,900 --> 06:37:30,557 We are running probably about ten minutes behind. 2814 06:37:30,557 --> 06:37:34,262 So we're going to try to catch up if we can. 2815 06:37:34,262 --> 06:37:35,218 >> Thank you mayor. 2816 06:37:35,218 --> 06:37:37,320 I have the same question. 2817 06:37:37,320 --> 06:37:41,232 I am concerned about the spread thin. 2818 06:37:41,252 --> 06:37:44,868 First of all, I should just say, this group, 2819 06:37:44,868 --> 06:37:47,316 it is an incredible -- 2820 06:37:47,316 --> 06:37:51,681 I mean the heart, the, it is an incredible group. 2821 06:37:51,681 --> 06:37:53,700 I just want to let you know the leadership, 2822 06:37:53,700 --> 06:37:57,182 from the top down, and then your teams. 2823 06:37:57,182 --> 06:37:59,556 Thank you so much for everything you do. 2824 06:37:59,556 --> 06:38:03,948 It is the heartbeat I would say, for the county. 2825 06:38:03,948 --> 06:38:04,748 Thank you. 2826 06:38:04,748 --> 06:38:05,652 Thank you. 2827 06:38:05,652 --> 06:38:08,136 Got the Magellan question out of the way. 2828 06:38:08,136 --> 06:38:11,412 But I think we could maybe get some information now, 2829 06:38:11,412 --> 06:38:12,540 whenever it's possible. 2830 06:38:12,540 --> 06:38:15,449 I understand there's been ongoing development of what's 2831 06:38:15,449 --> 06:38:16,424 going to come next. 2832 06:38:16,424 --> 06:38:21,572 So we can let people know about the four phasing piece of that. 2833 06:38:21,572 --> 06:38:24,926 We don't often think of our residents as customers. 2834 06:38:24,926 --> 06:38:28,324 But that customer service aspect is critical especially 2835 06:38:28,324 --> 06:38:32,796 when we think of case management or family services. 2836 06:38:32,796 --> 06:38:34,796 All the things. 2837 06:38:35,449 --> 06:38:39,160 Keep us in the loop and we can help advocate 2838 06:38:39,160 --> 06:38:41,444 and continue to pursue what you're looking for. 2839 06:38:41,444 --> 06:38:43,729 Which is a streamlined experience. 2840 06:38:43,729 --> 06:38:47,199 My question comes the next one is a Parks and Rec question 2841 06:38:47,199 --> 06:38:52,599 but it may also require some administrative advice here. 2842 06:38:53,196 --> 06:38:54,996 I've been asking this all day. 2843 06:38:54,996 --> 06:38:58,996 In our parks, we were just talking about Moss Park 2844 06:38:58,996 --> 06:39:00,129 and the camping. 2845 06:39:00,129 --> 06:39:03,324 I know they have a visitor log. 2846 06:39:03,324 --> 06:39:06,682 They are international visitors that come in 2847 06:39:06,682 --> 06:39:11,928 and they said every state in the country and most of the nations 2848 06:39:11,928 --> 06:39:14,516 that travel here have signed in to visit 2849 06:39:14,516 --> 06:39:16,548 some of these locations. 2850 06:39:16,548 --> 06:39:20,960 Which by definition then under Florida 2851 06:39:20,960 --> 06:39:23,960 Legislative qualifications makes our parks 2852 06:39:25,356 --> 06:39:28,516 eligible for tax funding, should they 2853 06:39:28,516 --> 06:39:30,826 be able to evidence the visitation. 2854 06:39:30,826 --> 06:39:33,308 I understand we have dedicated funding right now. 2855 06:39:33,308 --> 06:39:35,926 I would like to know about the possibility 2856 06:39:35,926 --> 06:39:39,526 or thought in dedicated funding, especially 2857 06:39:40,396 --> 06:39:45,196 in these areas we know there's been preservation. 2858 06:39:45,716 --> 06:39:46,716 Very unique. 2859 06:39:46,716 --> 06:39:49,868 I think Moss Park is one of those. 2860 06:39:49,868 --> 06:39:51,409 Magnolia Park, definitely. 2861 06:39:51,409 --> 06:39:52,636 Christmas. 2862 06:39:52,636 --> 06:39:54,386 There's many of these that we know 2863 06:39:54,386 --> 06:39:58,496 should be evaluated for a revenue source. 2864 06:39:58,496 --> 06:40:01,996 We are struggling right now thinking about what could be 2865 06:40:01,996 --> 06:40:05,596 and the idea of losing services. 2866 06:40:05,924 --> 06:40:09,556 I realize those services may not be able to fall 2867 06:40:09,556 --> 06:40:12,317 but if we can pull some of those funds 2868 06:40:12,317 --> 06:40:16,729 from what I would say are the things that do fall into the TDC 2869 06:40:16,729 --> 06:40:19,729 definition legislatively, people are literally 2870 06:40:21,111 --> 06:40:23,936 coming and including them in their vacations. 2871 06:40:23,936 --> 06:40:27,670 If we can do that so that we know 2872 06:40:27,670 --> 06:40:30,501 that we use the services piece. 2873 06:40:30,501 --> 06:40:32,501 Any thoughts? 2874 06:40:33,476 --> 06:40:35,782 >> It's a wonderful idea. 2875 06:40:35,782 --> 06:40:38,629 >> We probably need to do a better job of documenting that. 2876 06:40:38,629 --> 06:40:42,229 Do you all have good records? 2877 06:40:44,756 --> 06:40:47,260 >> I will say I've talked to them at Butler. 2878 06:40:47,260 --> 06:40:49,349 It was a couple of years ago. 2879 06:40:49,349 --> 06:40:51,682 We just kind of do it casually. 2880 06:40:51,682 --> 06:40:53,946 Can you just make sure it's someplace that it's 2881 06:40:53,946 --> 06:40:55,356 pretty centrally located. 2882 06:40:55,356 --> 06:40:57,684 They do guided hikes. 2883 06:40:57,684 --> 06:41:00,684 People come in with groups. 2884 06:41:01,116 --> 06:41:06,772 >> You know the other thing, I have been tracking that. 2885 06:41:06,772 --> 06:41:13,372 They don't go through because you don't have to sign in 2886 06:41:14,976 --> 06:41:15,576 or whatever. 2887 06:41:15,576 --> 06:41:16,436 And 2888 06:41:16,436 --> 06:41:19,590 >> We are looking at technology that will do things that we 2889 06:41:19,590 --> 06:41:20,696 didn't think were possible before. 2890 06:41:20,696 --> 06:41:22,641 Without a sign in log. 2891 06:41:22,641 --> 06:41:25,796 And still be able to capture that kind of data 2892 06:41:25,796 --> 06:41:27,302 to support that. 2893 06:41:27,302 --> 06:41:30,956 We think we have a way to do that. 2894 06:41:30,956 --> 06:41:33,756 >> You're pursuing it on behalf of your incredible work 2895 06:41:33,756 --> 06:41:36,982 and the effort to try to make sure that we're holding 2896 06:41:36,982 --> 06:41:41,176 on to the quality that we know are the important pieces. 2897 06:41:41,176 --> 06:41:42,956 Thank you. 2898 06:41:42,956 --> 06:41:44,956 >> Thank you. 2899 06:41:45,876 --> 06:41:49,476 >> Commissioner Uribe and then Commissioner Simrad. 2900 06:41:51,900 --> 06:41:54,796 >> I wanted to ask, I'm looking at all of these groups 2901 06:41:54,796 --> 06:41:58,396 and things that we fund, 237.1 million. 2902 06:41:58,780 --> 06:42:02,326 I'm a little disheartened because there 2903 06:42:02,326 --> 06:42:04,948 are plenty of times when our office needs resources 2904 06:42:04,948 --> 06:42:07,760 and I didn't know we were funding 2905 06:42:07,760 --> 06:42:11,116 all of these organizations and to what extent 2906 06:42:11,116 --> 06:42:15,380 and what they can offer our residents. 2907 06:42:15,380 --> 06:42:20,696 Is that all we give or do we give more than -- 2908 06:42:20,696 --> 06:42:23,960 I've seen numbers higher. 2909 06:42:23,689 --> 06:42:28,176 >> I would say that when you look at the county overall, 2910 06:42:28,176 --> 06:42:31,636 there is certainly the prospect that there is more. 2911 06:42:31,636 --> 06:42:35,836 I know for instance in yesterday's agenda, 2912 06:42:36,116 --> 06:42:39,116 the planning and Development Department 2913 06:42:40,356 --> 06:42:43,956 presented some grants for some nonprofits. 2914 06:42:45,364 --> 06:42:47,364 As one example. 2915 06:42:47,572 --> 06:42:53,572 And other parts of our department give grants as well. 2916 06:42:54,696 --> 06:42:58,886 That particular section pertains to what the children's 2917 06:42:58,886 --> 06:43:02,236 services funding or the C.c.c. 2918 06:43:02,236 --> 06:43:04,360 Division oversees. 2919 06:43:04,360 --> 06:43:09,436 And Commissioner, with your help and inspiration in fact, 2920 06:43:10,476 --> 06:43:14,972 we were able to design a system specifically 2921 06:43:14,972 --> 06:43:19,559 for use of a commissioners that your aides 2922 06:43:19,559 --> 06:43:24,959 could use to look up resources that we fund. 2923 06:43:25,516 --> 06:43:27,516 >> I appreciate that. 2924 06:43:29,276 --> 06:43:32,788 What I'm trying to do is come up maybe 2925 06:43:32,788 --> 06:43:35,800 with somebody from your team, I'm 2926 06:43:35,800 --> 06:43:37,776 looking at these organizations that I know we're 2927 06:43:37,776 --> 06:43:38,876 getting requests for help. 2928 06:43:38,876 --> 06:43:41,820 And there have been some that have been a little critical, who 2929 06:43:41,820 --> 06:43:43,366 have not helped us. 2930 06:43:43,366 --> 06:43:47,189 We've brought it up to them, that organization itself. 2931 06:43:47,189 --> 06:43:51,796 I just feel like when we're using tax dollars to fund 2932 06:43:51,796 --> 06:43:54,156 programs to help residents, we've 2933 06:43:54,156 --> 06:43:57,496 got to make sure it's a bit more seamless. 2934 06:43:57,496 --> 06:43:58,588 I appreciate that. 2935 06:43:58,588 --> 06:44:02,620 I'm going to brag on Kyle for a moment. 2936 06:44:02,620 --> 06:44:04,620 I've got to tell you Kyle, when Matt 2937 06:44:04,620 --> 06:44:07,202 left I had a little bit of anxiety 2938 06:44:07,202 --> 06:44:09,929 because he's really created a little clutch with us. 2939 06:44:09,929 --> 06:44:13,196 We were so dependent on him and how he did things 2940 06:44:13,196 --> 06:44:14,552 and how he took care of things. 2941 06:44:14,552 --> 06:44:18,340 I want to commend you for your hard work and dedication. 2942 06:44:18,340 --> 06:44:23,475 To go beyond the scope when it comes to that. 2943 06:44:23,475 --> 06:44:25,916 I also wanted to address Commissioner Wilson. 2944 06:44:25,916 --> 06:44:28,276 On the parks and TT. 2945 06:44:28,276 --> 06:44:32,516 We actually got Congressman Soto and Senator Smith. 2946 06:44:32,516 --> 06:44:36,716 Writing letters of support for Lake Conway. 2947 06:44:36,748 --> 06:44:38,588 For TT funding. 2948 06:44:38,588 --> 06:44:39,820 To requested. 2949 06:44:39,820 --> 06:44:41,400 It is happening. 2950 06:44:41,400 --> 06:44:42,386 It's happened to other places. 2951 06:44:42,386 --> 06:44:43,876 And you're absolutely right, when 2952 06:44:43,876 --> 06:44:47,996 we do pioneer day is, we meet so many people that 2953 06:44:47,996 --> 06:44:51,456 come from out of town who love to go to festivals and things 2954 06:44:51,456 --> 06:44:52,322 like that. 2955 06:44:52,322 --> 06:44:56,410 I'm excited to see us quantify that because I believe 2956 06:44:56,410 --> 06:45:00,504 we are a town with so much culture 2957 06:45:00,504 --> 06:45:04,716 that people want to do more than just the norm. 2958 06:45:04,716 --> 06:45:08,436 They want to visit the local spots and things like that. 2959 06:45:08,436 --> 06:45:12,822 But I've got to tell you, as a parent who 2960 06:45:12,822 --> 06:45:16,396 put her child in your summer camp for the first time ever, 2961 06:45:16,396 --> 06:45:18,340 and I did have anxiety. 2962 06:45:18,340 --> 06:45:20,196 I'm a helicopter mom. 2963 06:45:20,196 --> 06:45:21,224 I'm going to admit it. 2964 06:45:21,224 --> 06:45:23,469 I love to watch what's going on. 2965 06:45:23,469 --> 06:45:27,100 My child is absolutely so happy and gets 2966 06:45:27,100 --> 06:45:29,900 excited to go to camp every day. 2967 06:45:29,900 --> 06:45:32,296 And your staff at Meadow Woods, and I'm sure 2968 06:45:32,296 --> 06:45:37,360 all the Orange County, are phenomenal, great supporters. 2969 06:45:37,360 --> 06:45:38,893 That is a big plus. 2970 06:45:38,893 --> 06:45:45,493 And Josh, over at barber, and his team in Cypress Grove, 2971 06:45:45,676 --> 06:45:47,436 top notch. 2972 06:45:47,436 --> 06:45:53,409 We honestly have some of the best dedicated, and Renaissance 2973 06:45:53,409 --> 06:45:54,102 center. 2974 06:45:54,102 --> 06:45:58,902 The employees, you could ever ask for a. 2975 06:45:59,329 --> 06:46:02,436 I've never had anybody -- they are there to serve. 2976 06:46:02,436 --> 06:46:04,136 How can we help, what can we do. 2977 06:46:04,136 --> 06:46:05,996 They come in, they get involved. 2978 06:46:05,996 --> 06:46:10,156 That just shows your leadership with your team 2979 06:46:10,156 --> 06:46:13,540 and of course Mandy, is Mandy around here? 2980 06:46:13,540 --> 06:46:15,676 She's a selfie queen. 2981 06:46:15,676 --> 06:46:18,760 It's just so impressive. 2982 06:46:18,512 --> 06:46:20,482 And I just don't think you guys get 2983 06:46:20,482 --> 06:46:24,268 to hear that enough and just know that we really appreciate 2984 06:46:24,268 --> 06:46:27,767 you all because you give us a place 2985 06:46:27,767 --> 06:46:31,156 to celebrate our communities and I know I have an event coming 2986 06:46:31,156 --> 06:46:32,840 this weekend. 2987 06:46:32,840 --> 06:46:35,256 Back to school and food drives and Halloween and Christmas 2988 06:46:35,256 --> 06:46:36,702 and everything we do. 2989 06:46:36,702 --> 06:46:39,876 It's just been a pleasure to work with the best 2990 06:46:39,876 --> 06:46:41,902 team in the state. 2991 06:46:41,902 --> 06:46:43,902 Thank you. 2992 06:46:45,476 --> 06:46:47,676 >> Thank you so much. 2993 06:46:47,676 --> 06:46:48,662 >> Thank you mayor. 2994 06:46:48,662 --> 06:46:49,532 I'm very quick. 2995 06:46:49,532 --> 06:46:54,942 Kyle, I forgot to reference the TT for the Christmas.. 2996 06:46:54,942 --> 06:46:56,289 The Fort. 2997 06:46:56,289 --> 06:46:59,276 And the Christmas Historical Society 2998 06:46:59,276 --> 06:47:02,896 is more than willing to try to do the process. 2999 06:47:02,896 --> 06:47:06,360 They just need a little bit of assistance. 3000 06:47:06,360 --> 06:47:08,436 They're ready and willing. 3001 06:47:09,140 --> 06:47:13,340 It has a great tourism draw there. 3002 06:47:15,898 --> 06:47:19,498 >> We recently took a trip together. 3003 06:47:20,210 --> 06:47:21,293 >> That's amazing to hear. 3004 06:47:21,293 --> 06:47:22,912 Thank you for doing that. 3005 06:47:22,912 --> 06:47:27,932 I also wanted to say that, pertaining to just the team you 3006 06:47:27,932 --> 06:47:31,844 work with, every single time that district five does a food 3007 06:47:31,844 --> 06:47:35,729 distribution at a park, they open the park 3008 06:47:35,729 --> 06:47:38,600 and they're there to greet us but they also 3009 06:47:38,600 --> 06:47:41,276 roll up their sleeves and they help distribute the food. 3010 06:47:41,276 --> 06:47:45,576 And then there's a citizen group that created the district five 3011 06:47:45,576 --> 06:47:49,316 park protectors and they've removed several tons of debris 3012 06:47:49,316 --> 06:47:51,402 from parks in district five. 3013 06:47:51,402 --> 06:47:53,701 And 100% of the time your employees 3014 06:47:53,701 --> 06:47:55,276 have rolled up their sleeves to help. 3015 06:47:55,276 --> 06:47:59,576 Not just help do the process but to actually participate 3016 06:47:59,576 --> 06:48:03,316 and in every single one that they weren't working, 3017 06:48:03,316 --> 06:48:05,876 we still always have two people that 3018 06:48:05,876 --> 06:48:09,222 come from Parks and Rec that are just purely volunteering 3019 06:48:09,222 --> 06:48:12,276 their Saturday morning to do that. 3020 06:48:12,276 --> 06:48:15,276 I just think it's great. 3021 06:48:16,556 --> 06:48:18,556 Thank you. 3022 06:48:19,756 --> 06:48:23,253 >> They had a all staff meeting this morning and I know some 3023 06:48:23,253 --> 06:48:26,252 of our staff will be here, are watching, 3024 06:48:26,252 --> 06:48:29,156 because I invited them to do so. 3025 06:48:29,156 --> 06:48:33,369 So hopefully they can hear all of the accolades that you all 3026 06:48:33,369 --> 06:48:37,476 are -- we appreciate them very much. 3027 06:48:37,476 --> 06:48:39,569 >> All right, thank you all very much. 3028 06:48:39,569 --> 06:48:42,492 We are going to move forward. 3029 06:48:42,492 --> 06:48:48,492 I know the Sheriff and his team are out there. 3030 06:48:48,596 --> 06:48:50,596 >> They're next door. 3031 06:48:50,676 --> 06:48:53,760 >> A presentation of today. 3032 06:49:01,876 --> 06:49:06,676 You all can stay if you want. (laughs) 3033 06:49:11,956 --> 06:49:14,956 they're rushing out of here. 3034 06:49:19,516 --> 06:49:21,836 Sheriff, come on up. 3035 06:49:21,836 --> 06:49:23,736 Come on down. 3036 06:49:23,736 --> 06:49:25,736 You're up, sir. 3037 06:49:35,356 --> 06:49:38,956 Sheriff, we're running a little behind. 3038 06:49:39,444 --> 06:49:43,260 I know we talked about the children, 3039 06:49:43,260 --> 06:49:46,116 it runs a little long it seems. 3040 06:49:46,116 --> 06:49:48,569 I said whenever we talk about the children it always 3041 06:49:48,569 --> 06:49:50,969 runs a little long. 3042 06:49:54,371 --> 06:49:55,996 >> I reviewed last year's presentation. 3043 06:49:55,996 --> 06:50:00,360 I was standing at this podium for two hours. 3044 06:50:00,360 --> 06:50:04,236 Even though my presentation was only 20 minutes. 3045 06:50:11,800 --> 06:50:12,997 >> Let's hope you won't be here for two hours. 3046 06:50:12,997 --> 06:50:14,997 Welcome, Sheriff. 3047 06:50:15,249 --> 06:50:19,860 >> Good afternoon Commissioner, mayor, happy to be here again. 3048 06:50:19,860 --> 06:50:21,626 I'll dispense with the pleasantries 3049 06:50:21,626 --> 06:50:23,708 because I know I've been watching you guys, 3050 06:50:23,708 --> 06:50:25,169 you've been sitting here all day. 3051 06:50:25,169 --> 06:50:26,756 Thank you for what you do. 3052 06:50:26,756 --> 06:50:29,836 Thank you for your strong support of the public safety. 3053 06:50:29,836 --> 06:50:31,308 We really appreciate you. 3054 06:50:31,308 --> 06:50:33,316 So, I'll get started. 3055 06:50:33,316 --> 06:50:34,500 This is the overview. 3056 06:50:34,500 --> 06:50:35,929 We're going to do some highlights. 3057 06:50:35,929 --> 06:50:37,995 I always like to brief you guys and show you 3058 06:50:37,995 --> 06:50:40,412 a little highlight video of the great work we're doing out 3059 06:50:40,412 --> 06:50:41,116 there. 3060 06:50:41,116 --> 06:50:44,956 Talk about our citizen feedback survey that we recently did. 3061 06:50:44,956 --> 06:50:47,356 Of course crime statistics. 3062 06:50:47,456 --> 06:50:48,616 The budget. 3063 06:50:48,616 --> 06:50:50,616 And our priorities. 3064 06:50:52,236 --> 06:50:55,836 >> 911 what's the location of your emergency? 3065 06:51:02,849 --> 06:51:07,490 [video playing] Things like nine years old . 3066 06:51:37,908 --> 06:51:43,308 [video playing] Bam so, could it be more prouder. 3067 06:52:43,801 --> 06:52:47,375 I know you are as well. 3068 06:52:47,375 --> 06:52:50,975 Before we put together our budget, 3069 06:52:51,128 --> 06:52:55,769 we go to hundreds of meetings every single year 3070 06:52:55,769 --> 06:52:58,675 and one of the things that people 3071 06:52:58,675 --> 06:53:03,357 tell us is, you guys do a great job, we love you. 3072 06:53:03,357 --> 06:53:05,323 But we need more of you. 3073 06:53:05,323 --> 06:53:06,985 We don't see enough of you. 3074 06:53:06,985 --> 06:53:08,766 So we decided to ask the residents. 3075 06:53:08,766 --> 06:53:10,175 We did a survey. 3076 06:53:10,175 --> 06:53:12,175 75% were 35 and older. 3077 06:53:13,335 --> 06:53:15,735 This was Geocoded for unincorporated Orange County 3078 06:53:15,735 --> 06:53:16,268 only. 3079 06:53:16,268 --> 06:53:20,306 Each survey user, we are only allowed to do it once. 3080 06:53:20,306 --> 06:53:23,363 I tried myself to do it a couple of times and I could not. 3081 06:53:23,363 --> 06:53:24,435 It locked me out. 3082 06:53:24,435 --> 06:53:26,955 This is what the people said. 3083 06:53:26,955 --> 06:53:29,927 At 98.1%, the residents say the Sheriff's office 3084 06:53:29,927 --> 06:53:32,655 plays an important role keeping families safe. 3085 06:53:32,655 --> 06:53:34,655 No surprise there. 3086 06:53:35,175 --> 06:53:39,950 96.9% residents say deputy visibility and active presence 3087 06:53:39,950 --> 06:53:40,455 are important. 3088 06:53:40,455 --> 06:53:44,355 Again, this is the theme we hear over and over again 3089 06:53:44,355 --> 06:53:45,695 around our communities. 3090 06:53:45,695 --> 06:53:49,647 And 91.5% of residents support growing the Sheriff's office 3091 06:53:49,647 --> 06:53:52,239 to keep pace with Orange County. 3092 06:53:52,239 --> 06:53:55,239 Nine out of ten people. 3093 06:53:55,471 --> 06:53:57,111 That's pretty telling. 3094 06:53:57,111 --> 06:54:00,541 When we put together our budget we based a lot of this on, 3095 06:54:00,541 --> 06:54:04,135 do our residents want from the Sheriff's office. 3096 06:54:04,135 --> 06:54:05,770 They want to see us. 3097 06:54:05,770 --> 06:54:06,346 They want us out there. 3098 06:54:06,346 --> 06:54:09,711 Just want to go over our staffing levels. 3099 06:54:09,711 --> 06:54:12,711 We are at 1939 sworn positions. 3100 06:54:13,535 --> 06:54:15,535 We're requesting 27 sworn. 3101 06:54:16,287 --> 06:54:19,630 We aren't requesting any civilian personnel 3102 06:54:19,630 --> 06:54:20,287 in this budget. 3103 06:54:20,287 --> 06:54:23,287 For a total positions of 2753. 3104 06:54:23,395 --> 06:54:26,920 And I no vacancy rates always come up. 3105 06:54:26,920 --> 06:54:31,120 Right now, out of the 1939 authorized positions , 3106 06:54:35,917 --> 06:54:37,449 we had 70 vacancies. 3107 06:54:37,449 --> 06:54:39,449 That is 3.67%. 3108 06:54:41,855 --> 06:54:46,655 And with the conditional hires, we are -- 3109 06:54:48,175 --> 06:54:53,760 all those people I offered a job to over the last several months, 3110 06:54:53,760 --> 06:54:58,476 make it through that process, we will be (indiscernible). 3111 06:54:59,295 --> 06:55:01,708 Here is our recruitment retention 3112 06:55:01,708 --> 06:55:03,615 over the last four years. 3113 06:55:03,615 --> 06:55:05,615 We've hired 826. 3114 06:55:05,715 --> 06:55:09,315 This is just sworn deputy sheriffs. 3115 06:55:11,375 --> 06:55:13,375 And retired, 596. 3116 06:55:13,755 --> 06:55:18,555 And we added 148 new positions over that time. 3117 06:55:18,596 --> 06:55:21,223 Over these past four years we are easily 3118 06:55:21,223 --> 06:55:22,959 keeping up with retirements. 3119 06:55:22,959 --> 06:55:26,559 We are keeping up with attrition. 3120 06:55:27,275 --> 06:55:29,199 And new positions. 3121 06:55:29,199 --> 06:55:31,599 You see the trend. 3122 06:55:31,895 --> 06:55:37,535 We really started beefing up our recruiting efforts to catch up. 3123 06:55:37,535 --> 06:55:40,729 Remember, several years ago I came to you, 3124 06:55:40,729 --> 06:55:42,905 we were at like 200 vacancies. 3125 06:55:42,905 --> 06:55:46,383 So we had closed that gap, as you can see. 3126 06:55:46,383 --> 06:55:47,841 There are plenty of people who want 3127 06:55:47,841 --> 06:55:50,391 to become a part of the Orange County Sheriff's Office 3128 06:55:50,391 --> 06:55:54,623 and we don't see that stopping anytime soon. 3129 06:55:54,623 --> 06:55:57,965 And the retirements have flattened out. 3130 06:55:57,965 --> 06:56:02,165 That 2022 number, that was right after COVID. 3131 06:56:02,445 --> 06:56:05,445 Right after George Floyd incident. 3132 06:56:05,881 --> 06:56:11,335 A lot of things were going on in our nation and a lot of deputies 3133 06:56:11,335 --> 06:56:13,590 were up for retirement. 3134 06:56:13,590 --> 06:56:16,695 As you see in 23 and 24, the state of Florida 3135 06:56:16,695 --> 06:56:21,385 allowed sworn deputy sheriffs to extend their drop three years. 3136 06:56:21,385 --> 06:56:22,735 To eight years. 3137 06:56:22,735 --> 06:56:25,535 So that really slowed down retirements. 3138 06:56:25,535 --> 06:56:30,351 And with the solid efforts of our recruiting units 3139 06:56:30,351 --> 06:56:32,260 we were able to catch up. 3140 06:56:32,260 --> 06:56:34,635 I know you're all interested in this. 3141 06:56:34,635 --> 06:56:36,755 I came to you in 2023. 3142 06:56:36,755 --> 06:56:40,835 We had 91 vacancies and 200 and something positions. 3143 06:56:40,835 --> 06:56:43,125 And we only have two current vacancies 3144 06:56:43,125 --> 06:56:45,945 and that's basically with conditional offers 3145 06:56:45,945 --> 06:56:48,900 that we have out there. 3146 06:56:48,900 --> 06:56:51,550 I know the county, you haven't received 3147 06:56:51,550 --> 06:56:55,555 any of those nasty grams about 911 calls not being answered. 3148 06:56:55,555 --> 06:56:57,175 That's because they're full. 3149 06:56:57,175 --> 06:57:00,175 Now, busy, they're very busy. 3150 06:57:00,455 --> 06:57:03,443 You'll see here in a minute, the calls for service 3151 06:57:03,443 --> 06:57:04,672 continue to arise. 3152 06:57:04,672 --> 06:57:08,620 So we are very proud of that number as well. 3153 06:57:08,620 --> 06:57:11,455 Want to go over our crime stats. 3154 06:57:11,455 --> 06:57:13,855 This is the first 25. 3155 06:57:14,555 --> 06:57:15,959 Couldn't be happier. 3156 06:57:15,959 --> 06:57:20,680 Crime is going down 15% over that year. 3157 06:57:20,680 --> 06:57:22,500 In all categories really. 3158 06:57:22,500 --> 06:57:25,175 And year to date this year, down again. 3159 06:57:25,175 --> 06:57:26,815 Slightly up in homicides. 3160 06:57:26,815 --> 06:57:30,655 We have a very small number of homicides. 3161 06:57:30,655 --> 06:57:32,452 Last year at this time we had 14. 3162 06:57:32,452 --> 06:57:35,759 This year at this time we are at 15. 3163 06:57:35,759 --> 06:57:42,359 But my estimation is that's one too many, in my philosophy. 3164 06:57:42,537 --> 06:57:45,375 We don't want any violent crime. 3165 06:57:45,375 --> 06:57:49,641 And I may have said this last year but, 3166 06:57:49,641 --> 06:57:52,568 what does drive down crime? 3167 06:57:52,568 --> 06:57:56,641 The great work of the men and women at the County Sheriff's 3168 06:57:56,641 --> 06:57:59,655 office, all the work we do in our community. 3169 06:57:59,655 --> 06:58:01,281 Engaging with our nonprofits. 3170 06:58:01,281 --> 06:58:02,735 Talking to all of our kids. 3171 06:58:02,735 --> 06:58:03,768 All of that adds up. 3172 06:58:03,768 --> 06:58:05,630 And finally technology. 3173 06:58:05,630 --> 06:58:10,463 All in my opinion causes these great crime reductions. 3174 06:58:10,615 --> 06:58:15,311 And our homicide unit, couldn't be more proud of them. 3175 06:58:15,311 --> 06:58:19,739 The national clearance rate for murder is 61% and we were at 85% 3176 06:58:19,739 --> 06:58:20,788 last year. 3177 06:58:20,788 --> 06:58:23,865 I'm going to give you a snapshot of how many people 3178 06:58:23,865 --> 06:58:25,401 we actually arrested in a year. 3179 06:58:25,401 --> 06:58:26,519 It's a lot. 3180 06:58:26,519 --> 06:58:28,919 1.6 million people live here. 3181 06:58:29,585 --> 06:58:31,585 76 million residents. 3182 06:58:31,995 --> 06:58:36,655 The vast majority are good, law abiding citizens. 3183 06:58:36,655 --> 06:58:38,255 Residents and visitors that love, 3184 06:58:38,255 --> 06:58:39,983 trust, and respect law enforcement 3185 06:58:39,983 --> 06:58:41,448 and abide by the law. 3186 06:58:41,448 --> 06:58:44,781 We have people out here who want to commit crimes 3187 06:58:44,781 --> 06:58:46,912 in our neighborhood and want to do harm 3188 06:58:46,912 --> 06:58:50,512 to the people in our community. 3189 06:58:52,375 --> 06:58:54,375 Here's another snapshot. 3190 06:58:56,275 --> 06:58:58,275 Again in 2021. 3191 06:58:58,615 --> 06:59:01,150 It kind of dipped. 3192 06:59:01,295 --> 06:59:05,855 Comparing it to other years because of COVID. 3193 06:59:05,855 --> 06:59:07,855 Everyone was inside. 3194 06:59:08,295 --> 06:59:11,895 Universal and Disney was shut down. 3195 06:59:15,950 --> 06:59:19,665 Crime began to spike and by adding positions 3196 06:59:19,665 --> 06:59:23,521 every single year, by all of the efforts of the men 3197 06:59:23,521 --> 06:59:25,868 and women in the Sheriff's office, 3198 06:59:25,868 --> 06:59:28,445 utilizing technology and engaging with community. 3199 06:59:28,445 --> 06:59:30,355 Arresting bad guys. 3200 06:59:30,355 --> 06:59:32,431 We continue to drive the crime down. 3201 06:59:32,431 --> 06:59:35,439 This is interesting and you probably have already 3202 06:59:35,439 --> 06:59:37,439 seen similar trends. 3203 06:59:38,680 --> 06:59:44,680 Overdose deaths, we, we down period continue to go down. 3204 06:59:44,468 --> 06:59:47,290 That's a combination of things. 3205 06:59:47,290 --> 06:59:49,545 That's a combination of the prevention programs 3206 06:59:49,545 --> 06:59:51,897 that we're all a part of. 3207 06:59:51,897 --> 06:59:53,915 Start with the DEA. 3208 06:59:53,915 --> 06:59:58,342 The -- I think when people heard that, 3209 06:59:58,342 --> 07:00:01,766 they were like wait a minute, I can use it one time and die? 3210 07:00:01,766 --> 07:00:05,366 I think that resonated with people. 3211 07:00:05,855 --> 07:00:11,175 As well as the local prevention programs here and the fact 3212 07:00:11,175 --> 07:00:16,575 that all of our deputies, firefighters, they carry Narcan. 3213 07:00:16,668 --> 07:00:19,175 You can buy it at Walgreens. 3214 07:00:19,175 --> 07:00:21,275 Honestly, the users know that. 3215 07:00:21,275 --> 07:00:23,475 They have it readily available. 3216 07:00:23,475 --> 07:00:27,935 All that continues to drive fentanyl overdoses down. 3217 07:00:27,935 --> 07:00:32,135 Now is that stopping the drugs coming into our community 3218 07:00:32,135 --> 07:00:34,135 from other areas? 3219 07:00:34,155 --> 07:00:39,308 No, absolutely not we are still seeing massive cocaine seizures 3220 07:00:39,308 --> 07:00:41,575 all throughout the United States. 3221 07:00:41,575 --> 07:00:45,775 So this is what I talked about. 3222 07:00:46,450 --> 07:00:49,183 As our population continues to increase, 3223 07:00:49,183 --> 07:00:52,535 as our visitors continue to increase, 3224 07:00:52,535 --> 07:00:56,649 so will our calls for service and that will -- 3225 07:00:56,649 --> 07:00:58,525 I have no doubt. 3226 07:00:58,525 --> 07:01:01,870 With the development and growth, that number 3227 07:01:01,870 --> 07:01:02,515 will continue to rise. 3228 07:01:02,515 --> 07:01:06,550 We want to keep up with that growth. 3229 07:01:06,550 --> 07:01:08,950 Because of the calls for service. 3230 07:01:08,950 --> 07:01:10,495 We are very busy. 3231 07:01:11,295 --> 07:01:15,495 Our deputies are answering 41 calls per hour. 3232 07:01:16,590 --> 07:01:18,950 Extremely busy. 3233 07:01:18,950 --> 07:01:21,890 And they're doing a great job. 3234 07:01:21,890 --> 07:01:24,775 But it just goes to show you that we're not 3235 07:01:24,775 --> 07:01:26,601 just parked in our cars. 3236 07:01:26,601 --> 07:01:29,601 We are actually doing stuff. 3237 07:01:29,687 --> 07:01:32,788 So the program we started several years ago, 3238 07:01:32,788 --> 07:01:36,511 as some of you know, we were one of the only Sheriff's offices 3239 07:01:36,511 --> 07:01:39,999 in the state who were not responding to traffic crashes. 3240 07:01:39,999 --> 07:01:43,235 We used to get this complaint over and over again. 3241 07:01:43,235 --> 07:01:46,135 Our residents waiting hours and hours for FHP 3242 07:01:46,135 --> 07:01:48,919 to come and right the crash report. 3243 07:01:48,919 --> 07:01:52,255 We started doing it ourselves and you see the number of crash 3244 07:01:52,255 --> 07:01:53,655 reports we have done. 3245 07:01:53,655 --> 07:01:55,630 Since we've started. 3246 07:01:55,630 --> 07:01:56,390 Over 200. 3247 07:01:56,390 --> 07:01:57,255 That helps. 3248 07:01:57,255 --> 07:02:00,550 That's a service to our residents that they deserve. 3249 07:02:00,550 --> 07:02:02,770 They shouldn't have to wait for a state agency 3250 07:02:02,770 --> 07:02:05,485 to come to Orange County and do a crash report. 3251 07:02:05,485 --> 07:02:09,755 Here's that tourist impact I told you about. 3252 07:02:09,755 --> 07:02:11,105 76 million visitors. 3253 07:02:11,105 --> 07:02:14,960 That equates to a 200 -- and you all know this. 3254 07:02:14,960 --> 07:02:17,360 210,000 average daily population increase. 3255 07:02:18,475 --> 07:02:24,135 If you count our residents only, we are two deputies per 1000. 3256 07:02:24,135 --> 07:02:26,351 That is the standard throughout the country. 3257 07:02:26,351 --> 07:02:32,351 But if you add in our visitors, it's 1.67 deputies per 1000. 3258 07:02:33,895 --> 07:02:37,205 The city of Orlando has about three officers 3259 07:02:37,205 --> 07:02:39,205 per 1000 residents. 3260 07:02:40,655 --> 07:02:46,241 So, this is the budget that I submitted to you guys on May 3261 07:02:46,241 --> 07:02:46,814 1st. 3262 07:02:46,814 --> 07:02:51,955 It reflects our operational needs based on service demands. 3263 07:02:51,955 --> 07:02:56,150 And the growth and the calls for service. 3264 07:02:56,150 --> 07:03:02,150 We know that there is an amendment freeze out there. 3265 07:03:05,245 --> 07:03:10,450 So to be available to us is 470 million. 3266 07:03:12,100 --> 07:03:15,100 And 439 million for law enforcement. 3267 07:03:16,615 --> 07:03:18,615 30 million for court. 3268 07:03:19,480 --> 07:03:21,448 And that's a 11% increase. 3269 07:03:22,800 --> 07:03:26,400 Really that only covers salary increases. 3270 07:03:28,215 --> 07:03:30,615 Mandatory increases for FRS. 3271 07:03:31,775 --> 07:03:34,175 Anticipated health insurance cost. 3272 07:03:35,550 --> 07:03:40,220 And this is the second year in a row we are not receiving 3273 07:03:40,220 --> 07:03:43,220 any capital funding as well. 3274 07:03:43,655 --> 07:03:49,550 That available budget, that was basically given to us. 3275 07:03:50,441 --> 07:03:52,441 It represents 3.51% increase. 3276 07:03:54,245 --> 07:03:59,450 As for fleet operations and support, software system 3277 07:03:59,495 --> 07:04:02,435 renewals, and insurance and risk management. 3278 07:04:02,435 --> 07:04:06,635 But again, based on what we believe, 3279 07:04:08,101 --> 07:04:10,111 we believe we need more than that. 3280 07:04:10,111 --> 07:04:13,100 And that's why that budget was originally submitted. 3281 07:04:13,100 --> 07:04:15,135 Based on operational needs. 3282 07:04:15,135 --> 07:04:16,295 Based on growth. 3283 07:04:16,295 --> 07:04:17,775 Based on calls for service. 3284 07:04:17,775 --> 07:04:20,195 In this budget we are only requesting 3285 07:04:20,195 --> 07:04:23,904 the two behavioral response unit deputies per program. 3286 07:04:23,904 --> 07:04:26,158 It's been very successful. 3287 07:04:26,158 --> 07:04:29,575 Deputies responding to people who are in crisis. 3288 07:04:29,575 --> 07:04:31,795 We want to expand that unit. 3289 07:04:31,795 --> 07:04:38,395 And then the 25 patrol deputies, which is unfunded at this point. 3290 07:04:38,567 --> 07:04:42,687 I'll talk about our priorities and our priorities drive, 3291 07:04:42,687 --> 07:04:47,415 as well as the increase in services and the calls 3292 07:04:47,415 --> 07:04:50,750 for service and our operational needs. 3293 07:04:50,750 --> 07:04:54,750 This priority drive, we want to reduce violent crime. 3294 07:04:54,750 --> 07:04:58,415 We want to reduce burglary and theft. 3295 07:04:58,415 --> 07:05:02,775 After those nightclubs have been a source of frustration 3296 07:05:02,775 --> 07:05:04,775 for our residents. 3297 07:05:04,791 --> 07:05:08,159 They have been a source of violent crimes. 3298 07:05:08,159 --> 07:05:11,855 We've seen some real success in that and of course 3299 07:05:11,855 --> 07:05:14,575 our super speeder law update. 3300 07:05:14,575 --> 07:05:16,725 And we talk about our community engagement. 3301 07:05:16,725 --> 07:05:18,555 Over the last four years we've been 3302 07:05:18,555 --> 07:05:20,355 able to reduce homicide by 43%. 3303 07:05:20,355 --> 07:05:22,355 Violent crime by 29%. 3304 07:05:22,835 --> 07:05:25,150 We are hitting those priorities. 3305 07:05:25,150 --> 07:05:27,510 This is what we're striving for. 3306 07:05:27,510 --> 07:05:31,183 We want those numbers to continue to decrease. 3307 07:05:31,183 --> 07:05:33,948 We don't want them to stay stagnant 3308 07:05:33,948 --> 07:05:35,743 and we certainly don't want them to rise. 3309 07:05:35,743 --> 07:05:38,535 And again our property crimes. 3310 07:05:38,535 --> 07:05:40,535 Auto theft decreased. 3311 07:05:41,361 --> 07:05:44,961 Residential, auto, all seeing large decreases. 3312 07:05:47,855 --> 07:05:52,487 We are hitting that mark and those are our priorities. 3313 07:05:52,487 --> 07:05:54,785 I talked about the after Hours club. 3314 07:05:54,785 --> 07:05:58,175 After our successful legislation that was passed. 3315 07:05:58,175 --> 07:06:01,175 Making selling alcohol a felony. 3316 07:06:01,185 --> 07:06:04,289 A lot of people think it's not really that big a deal 3317 07:06:04,289 --> 07:06:07,357 it is a big deal when people are at these clubs drinking 3318 07:06:07,357 --> 07:06:09,143 until 4 or 5 in the morning. 3319 07:06:09,143 --> 07:06:11,991 All kinds of crime happens there. 3320 07:06:11,991 --> 07:06:14,375 It attracts a criminal element. 3321 07:06:14,375 --> 07:06:17,375 And they commit crimes and shootings. 3322 07:06:17,375 --> 07:06:20,355 And so this has really helped us. 3323 07:06:20,355 --> 07:06:25,735 We've made over 60 felony arrests we're hoping these bar 3324 07:06:25,735 --> 07:06:29,550 owners come a -- holding them accountable. 3325 07:06:29,550 --> 07:06:33,255 And the property owners, most of them live out of state 3326 07:06:33,255 --> 07:06:35,775 and they see that and they're evicting these folks. 3327 07:06:35,775 --> 07:06:38,751 As soon as we shut down one, another one opens right back up. 3328 07:06:38,751 --> 07:06:43,880 And the super speeder law, it's just people speeding, well, 3329 07:06:43,880 --> 07:06:46,680 this is the number one complaint in Orange County Sheriff's 3330 07:06:46,680 --> 07:06:46,681 Office. 3331 07:06:46,681 --> 07:06:47,775 Speeding. 3332 07:06:47,775 --> 07:06:50,215 This is the complaint that people care about the most. 3333 07:06:50,215 --> 07:06:52,143 Traffic congestion and speeding. 3334 07:06:52,143 --> 07:06:55,441 It's what we hear the most. 3335 07:06:55,441 --> 07:07:00,997 And so, there were people in the legislature who fought us. 3336 07:07:00,997 --> 07:07:02,650 Who said no. 3337 07:07:02,650 --> 07:07:06,480 They want to drive 100 miles an hour 3338 07:07:06,480 --> 07:07:07,393 on I-10 to get to Tallahassee. 3339 07:07:07,393 --> 07:07:08,529 We said no. 3340 07:07:08,529 --> 07:07:12,385 2500 people a year die in Florida because of traffic 3341 07:07:12,385 --> 07:07:13,695 crashes related to speed. 3342 07:07:13,695 --> 07:07:15,623 And so what has happened? 3343 07:07:15,623 --> 07:07:19,615 Over the past -- ever since we've started. 3344 07:07:19,615 --> 07:07:21,615 We've arrested 328 drivers. 3345 07:07:22,495 --> 07:07:27,348 But, more than five going over 120 miles an hour. 3346 07:07:27,348 --> 07:07:32,671 But what we're seeing issue here is a decrease people are not 3347 07:07:32,671 --> 07:07:35,338 going that fast deputies are finding -- 3348 07:07:35,338 --> 07:07:36,755 there is still speeders out there. 3349 07:07:36,755 --> 07:07:40,847 But they're not reaching the speeds over 100 miles. 3350 07:07:40,847 --> 07:07:42,815 Why is that important? 3351 07:07:42,815 --> 07:07:44,447 We want everyone to go the speed limit 3352 07:07:44,447 --> 07:07:46,847 but when they're going 100, 120, 150, 3353 07:07:47,401 --> 07:07:50,295 no one's going to survive that crash. 3354 07:07:50,295 --> 07:07:52,695 We've all seen that. 3355 07:07:53,455 --> 07:07:58,268 And so of course, as many of you know, 3356 07:07:58,268 --> 07:08:01,735 community engagement is a hallmark of this agency. 3357 07:08:01,735 --> 07:08:04,735 We believe this community engagement 3358 07:08:05,327 --> 07:08:07,348 has helped us drive down crime. 3359 07:08:07,348 --> 07:08:09,563 People see us out there. 3360 07:08:09,563 --> 07:08:10,959 We engage with them. 3361 07:08:10,959 --> 07:08:13,245 We have different activities that we do. 3362 07:08:13,245 --> 07:08:15,275 You see them all. 3363 07:08:15,275 --> 07:08:16,453 There's so many programs. 3364 07:08:16,453 --> 07:08:18,437 It's hard to remember them all. 3365 07:08:18,437 --> 07:08:23,115 I really do think that helps us build trust within the community 3366 07:08:23,115 --> 07:08:27,315 and certainly we cannot stop doing that. 3367 07:08:28,415 --> 07:08:33,150 If you're thinking that, that would be a huge problem. 3368 07:08:33,150 --> 07:08:35,495 Especially in our more challenging communities. 3369 07:08:35,495 --> 07:08:38,595 It's something we are very very proud of. 3370 07:08:38,595 --> 07:08:41,999 And we receive a lot of accolades and credit for things 3371 07:08:41,999 --> 07:08:43,271 that we're doing. 3372 07:08:43,271 --> 07:08:46,908 And with all those arrests we made we see a lot of drug money 3373 07:08:46,908 --> 07:08:49,750 and we are putting it right back into the community. 3374 07:08:49,750 --> 07:08:52,750 As you see since 2020, 2.6 million. 3375 07:08:53,535 --> 07:08:56,255 Back into nonprofits that we all love. 3376 07:08:56,255 --> 07:08:57,815 Human trafficking. 3377 07:08:57,815 --> 07:08:59,308 Mentoring programs. 3378 07:08:59,308 --> 07:09:02,607 Domestic violence and drug prevention programs. 3379 07:09:02,607 --> 07:09:05,607 We believe this is working. 3380 07:09:06,645 --> 07:09:10,245 We believe it's having an impact. 3381 07:09:10,395 --> 07:09:14,243 I know you guys have many questions for me 3382 07:09:14,243 --> 07:09:20,677 so I'm going to end right there and go back to this slide 3383 07:09:20,677 --> 07:09:24,877 so you all can look at it. 3384 07:09:40,760 --> 07:09:41,576 >> We will open it up for questions. 3385 07:09:41,576 --> 07:09:43,285 Members of the board. 3386 07:09:43,285 --> 07:09:46,885 We'll start with Commissioner Michael Scott. 3387 07:09:47,655 --> 07:09:52,295 >> Twice in a row got to go first Sheriff I have four 3388 07:09:52,295 --> 07:09:53,783 questions for you. 3389 07:09:53,783 --> 07:09:56,608 The first question is, I think it 3390 07:09:56,608 --> 07:10:00,668 was last year we gave you guys some funding for enhanced 911. 3391 07:10:00,668 --> 07:10:03,472 I think that's why you were able to send a link. 3392 07:10:03,472 --> 07:10:06,695 Can you tell us how that's working? 3393 07:10:06,695 --> 07:10:07,277 >> Yes. 3394 07:10:07,277 --> 07:10:08,443 It was live 911. 3395 07:10:08,443 --> 07:10:10,311 We tested it and it wasn't as effective 3396 07:10:10,311 --> 07:10:13,615 as we thought it would be. 3397 07:10:13,615 --> 07:10:14,895 >> Okay. 3398 07:10:14,895 --> 07:10:17,295 >> Okay so we ended that program. 3399 07:10:17,295 --> 07:10:20,695 >> And then the Florida Police Department, 3400 07:10:20,695 --> 07:10:24,295 are you guys still evaluating that? 3401 07:10:25,332 --> 07:10:25,915 >> Absolutely. 3402 07:10:25,915 --> 07:10:28,255 We met with a drone company recently. 3403 07:10:28,255 --> 07:10:31,135 They're going to do a pilot program with us. 3404 07:10:31,135 --> 07:10:34,235 And at around your convention area. 3405 07:10:34,235 --> 07:10:37,971 That happens to coincide with the big huge law enforcement 3406 07:10:37,971 --> 07:10:39,471 conference that's going to be there. 3407 07:10:39,471 --> 07:10:42,535 But they're going to leave it there for several months. 3408 07:10:42,535 --> 07:10:46,108 And so we're in talks with them about that. 3409 07:10:46,108 --> 07:10:49,965 I will say that we are very interested in that. 3410 07:10:49,965 --> 07:10:52,659 We're looking at that closely. 3411 07:10:52,659 --> 07:10:58,647 To be able to get eyes on a call very quickly. 3412 07:10:58,647 --> 07:11:02,695 With a drone operator watching that video. 3413 07:11:02,695 --> 07:11:04,575 It could be a game changer. 3414 07:11:04,575 --> 07:11:11,255 And so I do say that and I will also say that a drone, 3415 07:11:11,255 --> 07:11:12,945 and those other pieces of technology, 3416 07:11:12,945 --> 07:11:18,223 it will never replace a deputy out on the street because AI 3417 07:11:18,223 --> 07:11:21,230 and drone, they can't tell right from wrong. 3418 07:11:21,230 --> 07:11:24,623 They don't have that human brain. 3419 07:11:24,855 --> 07:11:29,655 Law enforcement is being very cautious regarding AI, 3420 07:11:30,111 --> 07:11:32,111 and rightly so. 3421 07:11:32,135 --> 07:11:33,735 It's done a lot of good things. 3422 07:11:33,735 --> 07:11:35,759 But we have to tread lightly. 3423 07:11:35,759 --> 07:11:37,455 We do have a committee specifically 3424 07:11:37,455 --> 07:11:38,883 looking at AI stuff. 3425 07:11:38,883 --> 07:11:41,320 But back to the drone, yes we are 3426 07:11:41,320 --> 07:11:45,807 going to do a pilot program and commissioners, it's just money, 3427 07:11:45,807 --> 07:11:47,615 it all costs money. 3428 07:11:47,615 --> 07:11:51,781 These tech companies, they provide some very good products. 3429 07:11:51,781 --> 07:11:55,111 But it comes at a huge cost. 3430 07:11:55,111 --> 07:11:59,311 The challenge for us is, we're always 3431 07:11:59,575 --> 07:12:02,519 going to need a deputy Sheriff. 3432 07:12:02,519 --> 07:12:04,679 We've got that drone program. 3433 07:12:04,679 --> 07:12:07,848 But can we get rid of a deputy because we have a drone 3434 07:12:07,848 --> 07:12:08,530 up there? 3435 07:12:08,530 --> 07:12:11,355 No, the deputy is still going to have to go 3436 07:12:11,355 --> 07:12:14,628 to that call in most cases. 3437 07:12:14,628 --> 07:12:18,828 >> And then I recently learned about -- 3438 07:12:19,681 --> 07:12:24,481 I wasn't aware that the body camera Taser, 3439 07:12:27,950 --> 07:12:30,680 I ended up with one company. 3440 07:12:30,680 --> 07:12:32,415 I guess if you could give me a ballpark 3441 07:12:32,415 --> 07:12:33,961 number of what that costs. 3442 07:12:33,961 --> 07:12:37,759 I know it's almost like a monopoly. 3443 07:12:37,759 --> 07:12:39,759 How does that? 3444 07:12:40,468 --> 07:12:42,819 >> With our tasers, body cameras, 3445 07:12:42,819 --> 07:12:45,219 it's $9.5 million a year. 3446 07:12:46,710 --> 07:12:49,668 All of our deputies who wear uniform out there 3447 07:12:49,668 --> 07:12:54,225 on the street, who are affecting an arrest, 3448 07:12:54,225 --> 07:12:58,425 in units that typically don't wear uniforms, 3449 07:12:59,150 --> 07:13:02,415 they all have body worn cameras. 3450 07:13:02,415 --> 07:13:06,535 That's why when you see a critical incidence, when 3451 07:13:06,535 --> 07:13:09,831 you see those things, we're able to see 3452 07:13:09,831 --> 07:13:11,831 it's incredibly expensive. 3453 07:13:12,550 --> 07:13:16,695 It's huge for trust building with our community. 3454 07:13:16,695 --> 07:13:17,919 As you know. 3455 07:13:17,919 --> 07:13:20,919 Having a less than (indiscernible). 3456 07:13:24,160 --> 07:13:29,375 And of course that all goes into the evidence.com. 3457 07:13:29,375 --> 07:13:31,375 It's incredibly expensive. 3458 07:13:31,467 --> 07:13:35,440 But it's needed and I can't ever see going back. 3459 07:13:35,440 --> 07:13:37,148 Because if we got rid of our body cameras 3460 07:13:37,148 --> 07:13:40,941 and we had an incident, wait a minute, we had body cameras now 3461 07:13:40,941 --> 07:13:42,239 we don't have body cameras. 3462 07:13:42,239 --> 07:13:44,115 Now we don't know what the deputy did. 3463 07:13:44,115 --> 07:13:50,115 It's one of those costs that we can't live without. 3464 07:13:50,375 --> 07:13:53,535 >> This wasn't one of my original questions do you have 3465 07:13:53,535 --> 07:13:55,935 one of the (indiscernible). 3466 07:13:58,628 --> 07:13:59,128 >> Yeah. 3467 07:13:59,128 --> 07:14:00,379 We had one before them. 3468 07:14:00,379 --> 07:14:03,735 Which was bought with grant money. 3469 07:14:03,735 --> 07:14:06,415 >> I have one more question. 3470 07:14:06,415 --> 07:14:08,375 This is maybe the hardest. 3471 07:14:08,375 --> 07:14:11,695 Obviously you've had folks come today and talk about ice. 3472 07:14:11,695 --> 07:14:16,311 Can you summarize what the money received is 3473 07:14:16,311 --> 07:14:19,823 and maybe there's some misunderstanding of what it is. 3474 07:14:19,823 --> 07:14:24,935 But kind of clarifying what those dogs will do. 3475 07:14:24,935 --> 07:14:29,895 >> I heard all the comments this morning and I assume some of you 3476 07:14:29,895 --> 07:14:30,815 have questions. 3477 07:14:30,815 --> 07:14:32,661 And there might be more. 3478 07:14:32,661 --> 07:14:34,195 But I'll try and answer it. 3479 07:14:34,195 --> 07:14:37,150 First I have to start with this, as you know, 3480 07:14:37,150 --> 07:14:42,415 Florida State's that law enforcement shall use its best 3481 07:14:45,775 --> 07:14:49,975 efforts to assist in immigration enforcement period 3482 07:14:50,280 --> 07:14:51,217 so I'll start with that. 3483 07:14:51,217 --> 07:14:53,875 I will also say that the enforcement of immigration 3484 07:14:53,875 --> 07:14:55,455 is not our top priority. 3485 07:14:55,455 --> 07:14:58,480 I have the data to prove that. 3486 07:14:58,480 --> 07:15:02,248 You looked at that 15,000 arrests last year. 3487 07:15:02,521 --> 07:15:06,687 We have only, since the program started, 3488 07:15:06,687 --> 07:15:11,487 we have only made 101 arrests related to immigration. 3489 07:15:12,715 --> 07:15:15,868 And those people also had local charges. 3490 07:15:15,868 --> 07:15:18,895 If you look at your own jail stats. 3491 07:15:18,895 --> 07:15:20,975 People in jail this morning. 3492 07:15:20,975 --> 07:15:23,967 Their et there that have a detainer on them. 3493 07:15:23,967 --> 07:15:27,341 That have nothing to do with us. 3494 07:15:27,341 --> 07:15:30,495 There are 184 in your jail right now 3495 07:15:30,495 --> 07:15:35,361 that have a local charges and a hold from ice. 3496 07:15:35,361 --> 07:15:38,815 In other words, all of those people 3497 07:15:38,815 --> 07:15:41,575 committed some type of crime in Orange County. 3498 07:15:41,575 --> 07:15:42,935 Whether it's domestic violence. 3499 07:15:42,935 --> 07:15:45,440 It could be a super speeder. 3500 07:15:45,440 --> 07:15:46,711 They committed a crime in Orange County. 3501 07:15:46,711 --> 07:15:48,735 They were brought to your jail. 3502 07:15:48,735 --> 07:15:50,855 Where their fingerprints were ran. 3503 07:15:50,855 --> 07:15:54,615 Their fingerprints were sent to the through the system. 3504 07:15:54,615 --> 07:15:59,527 And Vermont ice facility up there says hold those people. 3505 07:15:59,527 --> 07:16:02,975 None of that has anything to do with the Orange County Sheriff's 3506 07:16:02,975 --> 07:16:03,735 Department. 3507 07:16:03,735 --> 07:16:07,125 Now since we are by law using our best efforts 3508 07:16:07,125 --> 07:16:09,810 to support immigration enforcement, 3509 07:16:09,810 --> 07:16:11,875 we are part of the 287 program. 3510 07:16:11,875 --> 07:16:14,275 What does that mean? 3511 07:16:14,515 --> 07:16:18,715 The law also states we will assist. 3512 07:16:19,685 --> 07:16:23,146 So Ice folks, they have contacted us. 3513 07:16:23,146 --> 07:16:25,175 But we don't go on any raids. 3514 07:16:25,175 --> 07:16:29,975 We don't initiate any type of self-initiated immigration 3515 07:16:31,361 --> 07:16:32,348 enforcement. 3516 07:16:32,348 --> 07:16:35,535 The people who are here illegally, 3517 07:16:35,535 --> 07:16:39,183 who happened to come into our contact, they committed a crime. 3518 07:16:39,183 --> 07:16:41,550 They were pulled over. 3519 07:16:41,550 --> 07:16:42,911 We responded to a domestic violence call. 3520 07:16:42,911 --> 07:16:46,835 Ice has called us to transport a handful of times. 3521 07:16:46,835 --> 07:16:51,685 Ice has called us to assist with protests on their property. 3522 07:16:51,685 --> 07:16:53,391 Which we have assisted them. 3523 07:16:53,391 --> 07:16:57,875 They asked for us to assist them with crowd control training. 3524 07:16:57,875 --> 07:17:00,327 Which they desperately need, as you 3525 07:17:00,327 --> 07:17:01,835 can see throughout the country. 3526 07:17:01,835 --> 07:17:04,737 And we're experts at it so we have assisted them. 3527 07:17:04,737 --> 07:17:08,287 They don't call us that much for that assistance period 3528 07:17:08,287 --> 07:17:11,815 but, as the Sheriff here in Orange County, 3529 07:17:11,815 --> 07:17:14,235 the Sheriff of Florida, I will follow the law. 3530 07:17:14,235 --> 07:17:15,655 I won't break the law. 3531 07:17:15,655 --> 07:17:19,743 I will use my best efforts to assist immigration enforcement. 3532 07:17:19,743 --> 07:17:22,965 So the money that you're talking about, 3533 07:17:22,965 --> 07:17:25,798 yeah, there's $250 million grants available 3534 07:17:25,798 --> 07:17:29,799 for agencies that are in the 287 G program. 3535 07:17:29,799 --> 07:17:35,199 And so, we are receiving 10 million from the state. 3536 07:17:46,848 --> 07:17:50,374 For one year of Parigramme program. 3537 07:17:50,374 --> 07:17:53,835 Which I will explain that in a minute license plate readers. 3538 07:17:53,835 --> 07:17:55,835 And radios. $10 million. 3539 07:17:56,480 --> 07:18:00,935 First with the radios, each radio that they carry costs 3540 07:18:00,935 --> 07:18:02,935 $12,555. 3541 07:18:07,255 --> 07:18:10,165 That's the bulk of that 10 million. 3542 07:18:10,165 --> 07:18:14,463 We originally asked for 25 million and they cut it in half. 3543 07:18:14,463 --> 07:18:18,586 If you want to give me $10 million or $9 million 3544 07:18:18,586 --> 07:18:22,585 to buy radios today, I'll give that grant back. 3545 07:18:22,585 --> 07:18:25,565 Obviously we're not using those for immigration. 3546 07:18:25,565 --> 07:18:28,115 We use those every single day. 3547 07:18:28,115 --> 07:18:32,620 It's not a top priority program is basically -- 3548 07:18:32,620 --> 07:18:37,388 all of us at the Sheriff's office, all of our systems, 3549 07:18:37,388 --> 07:18:41,588 computer aided dispatch, our records management system, 3550 07:18:42,815 --> 07:18:43,735 evidence.com. 3551 07:18:43,735 --> 07:18:45,735 Body worn cameras. 3552 07:18:45,895 --> 07:18:48,575 All of our systems are siloed. 3553 07:18:48,575 --> 07:18:52,591 For a deputy or detective or crime analyst 3554 07:18:52,591 --> 07:18:55,176 to do an investigation, he or she 3555 07:18:55,176 --> 07:18:57,759 is looking for someone who has committed a crime in our county 3556 07:18:57,759 --> 07:18:59,221 or in another county in. 3557 07:18:59,221 --> 07:19:00,668 Trying to find a phone number. 3558 07:19:00,668 --> 07:19:03,535 We have to go through all these different systems. 3559 07:19:03,535 --> 07:19:08,495 What does, it puts it all in one system. 3560 07:19:08,495 --> 07:19:10,495 At the fingertips. 3561 07:19:10,823 --> 07:19:13,775 It marries all that information that we have. 3562 07:19:13,775 --> 07:19:16,521 Are we using it for immigration enforcement? 3563 07:19:16,521 --> 07:19:17,508 No. 3564 07:19:17,508 --> 07:19:18,731 Could it be used? 3565 07:19:18,731 --> 07:19:19,231 Yes. 3566 07:19:19,231 --> 07:19:21,383 But as you see by the numbers on the data, 3567 07:19:21,383 --> 07:19:24,108 that's not our priority here in Orange County. 3568 07:19:24,108 --> 07:19:25,908 But we will follow the law. 3569 07:19:25,908 --> 07:19:28,441 I hope that answers your question. 3570 07:19:28,441 --> 07:19:29,755 >> No, that was very thorough. 3571 07:19:29,755 --> 07:19:30,505 I appreciate it. 3572 07:19:30,505 --> 07:19:31,967 Now to my request. 3573 07:19:31,967 --> 07:19:36,175 I noticed, and I'm not jealous, I promise, 3574 07:19:36,175 --> 07:19:40,775 but I noticed you do annual spaghetti dinner with 3575 07:19:40,775 --> 07:19:44,975 Commissioner -- just something to think about. 3576 07:19:49,215 --> 07:19:50,600 Not a request now. 3577 07:19:50,600 --> 07:19:53,401 But I was wondering as we bring new commissioners on, 3578 07:19:53,401 --> 07:19:55,735 obviously we'll have four commissioners here. 3579 07:19:55,735 --> 07:19:58,231 There will be time for them to learn. 3580 07:19:58,231 --> 07:20:00,255 Would you consider doing something, 3581 07:20:00,255 --> 07:20:02,641 it may not be spaghetti. 3582 07:20:02,641 --> 07:20:05,268 For me it might be a fish fry. 3583 07:20:05,268 --> 07:20:06,935 >> I like fish. 3584 07:20:06,935 --> 07:20:09,935 >> Doing something for the districts. 3585 07:20:10,295 --> 07:20:12,295 >> Absolutely. 3586 07:20:12,495 --> 07:20:15,595 >> I know the chief goes around and does district meetings. 3587 07:20:15,595 --> 07:20:16,454 And 3588 07:20:16,454 --> 07:20:17,871 >> We attend hundreds of meetings. 3589 07:20:17,871 --> 07:20:23,535 I attended one for Commissioner Cordero just a few weeks ago. 3590 07:20:23,535 --> 07:20:24,855 Absolutely. 3591 07:20:24,855 --> 07:20:27,255 Orange County, it's 1000mi². 3592 07:20:29,655 --> 07:20:33,721 And so, again I get a lot of help from my staff. 3593 07:20:33,721 --> 07:20:37,515 If someone requests me personally to go to a meeting, 3594 07:20:37,515 --> 07:20:40,361 I rarely turn them down. 3595 07:20:40,361 --> 07:20:41,517 >> I appreciate that. 3596 07:20:41,517 --> 07:20:44,515 My final request, I've got to work on my resume, 3597 07:20:44,515 --> 07:20:48,115 but I'm looking for a job. 3598 07:20:48,215 --> 07:20:52,477 Since you have released the ice cream shop a. 3599 07:20:52,477 --> 07:20:56,215 I get so many calls about the ice cream truck and the gaming 3600 07:20:56,215 --> 07:20:56,715 truck. 3601 07:20:56,715 --> 07:20:59,415 I feel like I may call center seasonal employee for you guys 3602 07:20:59,415 --> 07:21:01,359 because I tell them how to request it. 3603 07:21:01,359 --> 07:21:04,375 Is there any thoughts to be able to expand 3604 07:21:04,375 --> 07:21:06,358 either one of those items. 3605 07:21:06,358 --> 07:21:10,558 I do get quite a few calls. 3606 07:21:10,855 --> 07:21:15,550 >> That comes with the expansion and personnel. 3607 07:21:15,735 --> 07:21:17,681 >> Right. 3608 07:21:17,681 --> 07:21:19,468 >> It takes personnel. 3609 07:21:19,468 --> 07:21:20,705 Thank you for that. 3610 07:21:20,705 --> 07:21:23,135 The ice cream truck and the gaming truck. 3611 07:21:23,135 --> 07:21:26,543 We've got agencies all over the country asking us how we did it. 3612 07:21:26,543 --> 07:21:30,159 My friend in Polk County copied us. 3613 07:21:30,159 --> 07:21:33,855 Sheriff Judd has ice cream trucks too. 3614 07:21:33,855 --> 07:21:38,655 People realize the importance of engaging with kids. 3615 07:21:39,710 --> 07:21:41,567 When you're giving a kid an ice cream, 3616 07:21:41,567 --> 07:21:44,435 it doesn't get any better than that. 3617 07:21:44,435 --> 07:21:47,575 They get to see us in a different light. 3618 07:21:47,575 --> 07:21:50,115 We are not in the neighborhood arresting someone. 3619 07:21:50,115 --> 07:21:52,375 We're not giving someone a ticket. 3620 07:21:52,375 --> 07:21:53,671 Nothing bad is happening. 3621 07:21:53,671 --> 07:21:56,685 The cops are smiling at us and giving us ice cream. 3622 07:21:56,685 --> 07:21:59,950 It's been a home run. 3623 07:21:59,950 --> 07:22:00,325 >> Kudos, Sheriff. 3624 07:22:00,325 --> 07:22:02,325 Appreciate you guys. 3625 07:22:03,415 --> 07:22:04,255 >> All right. 3626 07:22:04,255 --> 07:22:06,255 Commissioner Wilson? 3627 07:22:06,935 --> 07:22:08,255 >> Thank you. 3628 07:22:08,255 --> 07:22:10,717 Thank you all for the work you do. 3629 07:22:10,717 --> 07:22:15,815 Thank you for coming and talking to me ahead of time. 3630 07:22:15,815 --> 07:22:17,763 I appreciate that. 3631 07:22:17,763 --> 07:22:22,750 One of the things we did talk about, obviously 3632 07:22:22,750 --> 07:22:23,935 these various revenue sources. 3633 07:22:23,935 --> 07:22:25,935 I think there's a general understanding that you 3634 07:22:25,935 --> 07:22:27,875 can't leave money on the table. 3635 07:22:27,875 --> 07:22:29,988 I don't want you to misinterpret the questions 3636 07:22:29,988 --> 07:22:32,735 but I also think we are trying really hard 3637 07:22:32,735 --> 07:22:36,355 to make every little minute of this budget 3638 07:22:36,355 --> 07:22:39,647 hearing as transparent and publicly facing as possible. 3639 07:22:39,647 --> 07:22:43,135 And the public has come here every two weeks 3640 07:22:43,135 --> 07:22:44,895 for over a year now. 3641 07:22:44,895 --> 07:22:51,495 Begging us to help get between them and aggressive ice tactics. 3642 07:22:51,755 --> 07:22:54,175 One of the things I'm worried about when 3643 07:22:54,175 --> 07:22:57,879 I'm looking at the statistics, about the crime numbers going 3644 07:22:57,879 --> 07:22:59,935 down, is how many of those are just 3645 07:22:59,935 --> 07:23:02,335 unreported because domestic violence 3646 07:23:02,479 --> 07:23:04,179 victims are afraid to call. 3647 07:23:04,179 --> 07:23:09,680 Because they know Orange County Sheriff's do enforce with ice. 3648 07:23:09,680 --> 07:23:13,255 Has there been any analysis of that? 3649 07:23:13,255 --> 07:23:14,935 >> That's almost impossible to capture. 3650 07:23:14,935 --> 07:23:17,935 Underreported crime is an issue. 3651 07:23:18,645 --> 07:23:19,855 Regarding everything. 3652 07:23:19,855 --> 07:23:23,887 I would say regarding people who are here illegally. 3653 07:23:23,887 --> 07:23:29,265 Women and men, they don't call for a variety of reasons. 3654 07:23:29,265 --> 07:23:33,700 Immigration status is probably just one small reason. 3655 07:23:33,700 --> 07:23:37,270 It's almost impossible to capture a number. 3656 07:23:37,888 --> 07:23:39,475 We're not sure. 3657 07:23:39,475 --> 07:23:40,305 And 3658 07:23:40,305 --> 07:23:41,430 >> I fully understand that. 3659 07:23:41,430 --> 07:23:43,930 I just want to make sure when we're talking about statistics 3660 07:23:43,930 --> 07:23:46,587 in a time when we've seen over the last two days 3661 07:23:46,587 --> 07:23:48,545 that this wouldn't happen here in Orange County 3662 07:23:48,545 --> 07:23:50,399 because you do have the body cams. 3663 07:23:50,399 --> 07:23:54,983 But then someone was shot, they were not the target 3664 07:23:54,983 --> 07:23:57,383 of the ice operation. 3665 07:23:59,150 --> 07:24:01,415 These are tragic stories. 3666 07:24:01,639 --> 07:24:03,725 Once again I'm grateful for the training 3667 07:24:03,725 --> 07:24:05,615 that your team undergoes. 3668 07:24:05,615 --> 07:24:09,815 We do have the transparency for activities. 3669 07:24:10,505 --> 07:24:14,252 I think what I want to try to do is make sure we talk 3670 07:24:14,252 --> 07:24:15,603 about that trust relationship. 3671 07:24:15,603 --> 07:24:18,103 There is a community of people who are very frightened right 3672 07:24:18,103 --> 07:24:19,371 now of engaging. 3673 07:24:19,371 --> 07:24:21,305 We do food drives. 3674 07:24:21,305 --> 07:24:26,105 We noticed almost immediately after the DHS activity. 3675 07:24:26,850 --> 07:24:31,280 The families that used to show up didn't show up at. 3676 07:24:31,280 --> 07:24:33,801 And even some of the volunteers didn't show up. 3677 07:24:33,801 --> 07:24:36,555 And I need to figure out how to bridge some of that trust. 3678 07:24:36,555 --> 07:24:41,135 We've done as much as we feel like we can do. 3679 07:24:41,135 --> 07:24:44,635 But you're our other link in that trust. 3680 07:24:44,635 --> 07:24:48,375 Being able to understand why Orange County 3681 07:24:48,375 --> 07:24:50,431 Sheriff was the highest requester 3682 07:24:50,431 --> 07:24:53,431 in the state under that 287. 3683 07:24:55,521 --> 07:24:56,720 >> No. 3684 07:24:56,720 --> 07:24:59,720 We're not the highest requester. 3685 07:24:59,135 --> 07:25:00,383 >> That was reported. 3686 07:25:00,383 --> 07:25:03,135 That's why we're having this conversation. 3687 07:25:03,135 --> 07:25:05,535 >> There's $250 million out there. 3688 07:25:07,735 --> 07:25:11,959 All of their deputies -- go ahead come and finish 3689 07:25:11,959 --> 07:25:13,959 your question. 3690 07:25:14,215 --> 07:25:17,591 >> Know you're doing what I want to talk through this. 3691 07:25:17,591 --> 07:25:21,310 I want to make sure there's no family out there that 3692 07:25:21,310 --> 07:25:24,501 would hesitate to call you all in the case of an emergency. 3693 07:25:24,501 --> 07:25:25,401 That is the priority. 3694 07:25:25,401 --> 07:25:28,550 I want to make sure that our tax dollars are 3695 07:25:28,550 --> 07:25:31,639 going in our criminal justice system to criminal justice. 3696 07:25:31,639 --> 07:25:33,955 Not to civil federal enforcement. 3697 07:25:33,955 --> 07:25:37,735 These are the things I need to hear from you. 3698 07:25:37,735 --> 07:25:42,715 >> Going back to the crime piece, when I started in 2018, 3699 07:25:42,715 --> 07:25:45,647 as compared to now, crime is down 43%. 3700 07:25:45,647 --> 07:25:51,415 That's way before the 287 G. Way before the new state law. 3701 07:25:51,415 --> 07:25:53,153 So crime has been trending down. 3702 07:25:53,153 --> 07:25:55,775 And that goes back to the reasons I stated. 3703 07:25:55,775 --> 07:26:03,950 All of you have been great at Orange County -- as it grows, 3704 07:26:03,950 --> 07:26:06,950 adding personnel, and then all the different programs we had 3705 07:26:06,950 --> 07:26:09,575 in the Sheriff's office has continued to drive crime down 3706 07:26:09,575 --> 07:26:12,271 and when we talk about designated immigration officers 3707 07:26:12,271 --> 07:26:17,710 in the 287 program, out of 1939 deputies, we have 160. 3708 07:26:18,239 --> 07:26:20,639 That's 8% of our personnel. 3709 07:26:22,455 --> 07:26:24,528 That have that training. 3710 07:26:24,528 --> 07:26:28,350 And if you look at surrounding counties all of their deputies 3711 07:26:28,350 --> 07:26:29,575 have that training. 3712 07:26:29,575 --> 07:26:33,961 That may go to show you it's a different priority for them. 3713 07:26:33,961 --> 07:26:35,636 It's just not our top priority. 3714 07:26:35,636 --> 07:26:38,550 And here's the last thing I will say on that. 3715 07:26:38,550 --> 07:26:42,143 Anyone I invite any one of you to come ride with our deputies. 3716 07:26:42,143 --> 07:26:47,543 You can pick the deputy, the shift, the area, 3717 07:26:47,935 --> 07:26:49,557 and you ask them. 3718 07:26:49,557 --> 07:26:53,801 Are you out here looking for people who are illegal? 3719 07:26:53,801 --> 07:26:58,207 Ask them and you will see the truth. 3720 07:26:58,207 --> 07:27:00,895 Their priority is violent crime. 3721 07:27:00,895 --> 07:27:03,695 Their priority are people who are selling drugs and killing 3722 07:27:03,695 --> 07:27:04,615 our residents. 3723 07:27:04,615 --> 07:27:08,488 Their priority is to drive property crime down 3724 07:27:08,488 --> 07:27:11,823 and their priority is to engage with the community. 3725 07:27:11,823 --> 07:27:14,115 We do that with every one. 3726 07:27:14,115 --> 07:27:16,738 We don't pick a specific area. 3727 07:27:16,738 --> 07:27:18,923 If you watch what we do on social media, 3728 07:27:18,923 --> 07:27:21,837 it's 1000mi² as you know. 3729 07:27:21,837 --> 07:27:25,159 But we hit all areas of the county in an effort to engage. 3730 07:27:25,159 --> 07:27:29,135 I'm telling all of you, we will do 3731 07:27:29,135 --> 07:27:32,375 what we can to continue to build that trust. 3732 07:27:32,375 --> 07:27:34,775 Making people follow us. 3733 07:27:35,847 --> 07:27:39,447 We've met with very nice people. 3734 07:27:39,695 --> 07:27:44,495 >> I would love for you to facilitate -- 3735 07:27:47,600 --> 07:27:47,130 >> We've met with them several times. 3736 07:27:47,130 --> 07:27:48,805 I watched the public comments specifically. 3737 07:27:48,805 --> 07:27:51,495 I want to know what people are saying about the Orange County 3738 07:27:51,495 --> 07:27:52,695 Sheriff's Office. 3739 07:27:52,695 --> 07:27:55,303 About what's happening in our county. 3740 07:27:55,303 --> 07:27:57,703 Very nice, passionate people. 3741 07:27:58,220 --> 07:28:03,595 It seems more of that passion is directed towards Maine 3742 07:28:03,595 --> 07:28:05,995 and other parts of our country. 3743 07:28:05,995 --> 07:28:08,535 We are just not seeing those interactions here 3744 07:28:08,535 --> 07:28:12,279 and I can tell you, the Orange County Sheriff's Office 3745 07:28:12,279 --> 07:28:14,255 is not going to be involved in any of that 3746 07:28:14,255 --> 07:28:18,803 and I certainly can't control what Ice or DHS does. 3747 07:28:18,803 --> 07:28:22,583 But, our deputies know what their priorities are. 3748 07:28:22,583 --> 07:28:29,428 And I'll end again, but I am the Sheriff, I will follow the law, 3749 07:28:29,428 --> 07:28:31,410 I'm not going to break the law. 3750 07:28:31,410 --> 07:28:32,855 We will follow the state law. 3751 07:28:32,855 --> 07:28:36,735 It's just not a top priority for us. 3752 07:28:36,735 --> 07:28:38,895 >> I appreciate you talking through that. 3753 07:28:38,895 --> 07:28:42,635 I look forward to facilitating a meeting with some 3754 07:28:42,635 --> 07:28:43,835 of the advocacy folks. 3755 07:28:43,835 --> 07:28:45,808 It is purely a public safety point 3756 07:28:45,808 --> 07:28:48,615 that I'm making as far as what I think 3757 07:28:48,615 --> 07:28:52,224 can be a blind spot for a lot of us 3758 07:28:52,224 --> 07:28:54,299 who are trying to understand why we don't have 3759 07:28:54,299 --> 07:28:57,175 as many kids in some of our after school programs who 3760 07:28:57,175 --> 07:28:59,925 are potentially children of immigrants. 3761 07:28:59,925 --> 07:29:02,425 Across the board we've seen withdrawal 3762 07:29:02,425 --> 07:29:06,625 from many really beneficial parts of society. 3763 07:29:09,735 --> 07:29:12,870 So thank you for talking me through that. 3764 07:29:12,870 --> 07:29:14,870 I appreciate it. 3765 07:29:14,108 --> 07:29:19,508 I look forward to having more conversations about it. 3766 07:29:21,607 --> 07:29:21,610 >> Commissioner Semerad? 3767 07:29:21,610 --> 07:29:22,333 >> Thank you mayor. 3768 07:29:22,333 --> 07:29:23,830 Thank you Sheriff. 3769 07:29:23,830 --> 07:29:26,830 My neighbor is right there. 3770 07:29:26,575 --> 07:29:31,375 His mother in law Stole our garbage can. 3771 07:29:32,175 --> 07:29:34,135 >> I'm sorry. 3772 07:29:34,135 --> 07:29:38,807 >> Sheriff, in the last presentation we heard from 3773 07:29:38,807 --> 07:29:43,415 the community and family Services department and they 3774 07:29:43,415 --> 07:29:47,455 referenced that if the property tax reform passes that they 3775 07:29:47,455 --> 07:29:51,895 would need to look at potential reduction in sex trafficking 3776 07:29:51,895 --> 07:29:53,783 programs in Orange County. 3777 07:29:53,783 --> 07:29:56,245 As a Sheriff, would you think that if there's 3778 07:29:56,245 --> 07:29:57,703 a reduction in those programs there 3779 07:29:57,703 --> 07:30:02,112 could be an increase in that type of crime in our community? 3780 07:30:02,112 --> 07:30:02,695 >> Absolutely. 3781 07:30:02,695 --> 07:30:08,135 I will tell you I am willing to, and I have helped out 3782 07:30:08,135 --> 07:30:12,520 many organizations, including the human trafficking and sex 3783 07:30:12,520 --> 07:30:13,200 trafficking. 3784 07:30:13,200 --> 07:30:15,691 And will continue to help them financially. 3785 07:30:15,691 --> 07:30:21,950 As you know, we have many people signed up to the Metropolitan 3786 07:30:21,950 --> 07:30:21,961 investigation. 3787 07:30:21,961 --> 07:30:24,961 Our longest standing task force. 3788 07:30:26,785 --> 07:30:30,715 Split half of their task force into human trafficking. 3789 07:30:30,715 --> 07:30:33,391 Again, we are one of those communities that doesn't 3790 07:30:33,391 --> 07:30:35,950 sweep that under the rug. 3791 07:30:35,950 --> 07:30:38,623 I imagine you get funding for any program, 3792 07:30:38,623 --> 07:30:41,221 it's going to have an effect. 3793 07:30:41,221 --> 07:30:43,967 But we'll do what we need to do to continue 3794 07:30:43,967 --> 07:30:46,655 to prevent that and stop that. 3795 07:30:46,655 --> 07:30:50,700 >> To be clear, when we talk about an increase 3796 07:30:50,700 --> 07:30:54,807 in our community, that involves our children, right? 3797 07:30:55,948 --> 07:30:57,588 >> I can get you stats. 3798 07:30:57,588 --> 07:31:01,926 But as far as human trafficking, yeah, we save, 3799 07:31:01,926 --> 07:31:08,526 and I say save, we save about 50 children, juveniles a year. 3800 07:31:11,735 --> 07:31:17,735 And usually that is , either that juvenile or adult was 3801 07:31:19,655 --> 07:31:22,495 involved in sex work prostitution. 3802 07:31:22,495 --> 07:31:26,437 Years ago we would just arrest them and take them to jail. 3803 07:31:26,437 --> 07:31:29,975 But now we find out, hey, wait a minute, 3804 07:31:29,975 --> 07:31:32,295 someone is actually giving them drugs and giving them 3805 07:31:32,295 --> 07:31:33,921 money and a hotel. 3806 07:31:33,921 --> 07:31:36,150 And getting them into that life. 3807 07:31:36,150 --> 07:31:38,397 And using them as a sex worker. 3808 07:31:38,397 --> 07:31:41,666 We are able to grab that kid. 3809 07:31:41,666 --> 07:31:44,615 We are connected with those programs. 3810 07:31:44,615 --> 07:31:50,375 We try to get that kid or adult out of that scene. 3811 07:31:50,375 --> 07:31:54,519 Unfortunately some of them voluntarily go back. 3812 07:31:54,519 --> 07:31:58,950 But we certainly will continue that. 3813 07:31:58,950 --> 07:31:59,439 >> Thank you Sheriff. 3814 07:31:59,439 --> 07:32:01,663 The mayor is going to cut me off soon. 3815 07:32:01,663 --> 07:32:03,335 You have to answer shorter than that. 3816 07:32:03,335 --> 07:32:06,495 In your statistics where you asked residents to come 3817 07:32:06,495 --> 07:32:08,282 you know come with the questions. 3818 07:32:08,282 --> 07:32:10,115 Did you ask them if they were willing to pay 3819 07:32:10,115 --> 07:32:12,515 for a tax increase? 3820 07:32:12,601 --> 07:32:13,611 >> No we did not. 3821 07:32:13,611 --> 07:32:17,514 There were several comments that people wanted to pay. 3822 07:32:17,514 --> 07:32:19,681 >> That's great too know, and that's great to share. 3823 07:32:19,681 --> 07:32:21,615 I want to tell you that generally I'm 3824 07:32:21,615 --> 07:32:24,528 supportive of what you're requesting. 3825 07:32:24,528 --> 07:32:25,801 Generally. 3826 07:32:25,801 --> 07:32:31,170 But when district five met with the Sheriff's department, 3827 07:32:31,170 --> 07:32:34,807 it was about an $86 million dollar budget increase, 3828 07:32:34,807 --> 07:32:36,969 it was like a gasp. 3829 07:32:36,969 --> 07:32:40,919 We got word from the mayor to stay relatively stagnant 3830 07:32:40,919 --> 07:32:42,111 in terms of the budget. 3831 07:32:42,111 --> 07:32:44,975 And because we just endured a really nasty process 3832 07:32:44,975 --> 07:32:50,975 with Doge telling us we had so much wasteful spending. 3833 07:32:51,355 --> 07:32:52,863 Of taxpayer money. 3834 07:32:52,863 --> 07:32:54,935 Which has now played into the state 3835 07:32:54,935 --> 07:32:58,735 narrative of how local government uses and abuses 3836 07:32:58,735 --> 07:33:00,127 taxpayer funds. 3837 07:33:00,127 --> 07:33:03,960 And now we're battling to try to keep our budget. 3838 07:33:03,960 --> 07:33:06,960 Which also impacts your budget. 3839 07:33:08,150 --> 07:33:13,458 So I asked Byron if there was a way for us to -- 3840 07:33:13,458 --> 07:33:16,647 because I think generally Tallahassee is very supportive 3841 07:33:16,647 --> 07:33:17,912 of your labor union. 3842 07:33:17,912 --> 07:33:21,581 And I was asking Byron if there was a way because you have not 3843 07:33:21,581 --> 07:33:25,161 only the mstu that you guys get, but also 500 million 3844 07:33:25,161 --> 07:33:27,327 that comes out of the general fund. 3845 07:33:27,327 --> 07:33:29,741 And I was thinking maybe what we can 3846 07:33:29,741 --> 07:33:32,561 do is move you guys out of the general fund, 3847 07:33:32,561 --> 07:33:35,655 put you into a separate line item. 3848 07:33:35,655 --> 07:33:38,655 Reduce the county millage accordingly. 3849 07:33:38,765 --> 07:33:40,335 So you can be funded. 3850 07:33:40,335 --> 07:33:43,620 But there's all these technical aspects that came into it. 3851 07:33:43,620 --> 07:33:44,703 In terms of the funding. 3852 07:33:44,703 --> 07:33:48,428 I do believe you are an essential part 3853 07:33:48,428 --> 07:33:51,295 from a public safety perspective. 3854 07:33:51,295 --> 07:33:52,127 With tourism. 3855 07:33:52,127 --> 07:33:55,521 Because we have 76 million additional people that you 3856 07:33:55,521 --> 07:33:57,321 all are helping to keep safe. 3857 07:33:57,321 --> 07:34:01,849 I do think that when we talk about TT and the use of it, 3858 07:34:01,849 --> 07:34:04,323 I think the public safety should be included in that. 3859 07:34:04,323 --> 07:34:06,815 To help pay for some of these programs. 3860 07:34:06,815 --> 07:34:10,991 Additionally, I just wanted to let you know, if in the future 3861 07:34:10,991 --> 07:34:13,895 if there is any way to use some form of technology 3862 07:34:13,895 --> 07:34:16,350 to increase your revenue sources, 3863 07:34:16,350 --> 07:34:21,535 not to replace officers, but red light cameras and other forms 3864 07:34:21,535 --> 07:34:26,268 to increase your revenue intake so that the Sheriff's office can 3865 07:34:26,268 --> 07:34:27,515 pay for more of this. 3866 07:34:27,515 --> 07:34:29,871 Because quite frankly, the narrative 3867 07:34:29,871 --> 07:34:32,571 of asking people to increase taxes 3868 07:34:32,571 --> 07:34:37,583 when the state is offering to get rid of property tax reform, 3869 07:34:37,583 --> 07:34:39,407 it doesn't align right now. 3870 07:34:39,407 --> 07:34:43,805 The narrative is -- we have to find revenue sources. 3871 07:34:43,805 --> 07:34:46,550 Can technology help with this? 3872 07:34:46,550 --> 07:34:48,875 Can't d t help with this? 3873 07:34:48,875 --> 07:34:51,831 >> I will remind the board that last year I asked this board 3874 07:34:51,831 --> 07:34:53,831 to increase Mstu. 3875 07:34:54,399 --> 07:34:56,439 I think maybe if they had we would 3876 07:34:56,439 --> 07:34:58,783 be a little better off with the impending news 3877 07:34:58,783 --> 07:35:00,847 that might come in November. 3878 07:35:00,847 --> 07:35:01,843 Just my opinion. 3879 07:35:01,843 --> 07:35:04,919 But I did ask for that last year. 3880 07:35:04,919 --> 07:35:07,783 And I'll continue to ask for an increase. 3881 07:35:07,783 --> 07:35:11,455 I saw that slide earlier that Kurt presented. 3882 07:35:11,455 --> 07:35:15,735 That flat line of no increase in Mstu. 3883 07:35:15,735 --> 07:35:20,365 I think this board needs to take a hard look at that. 3884 07:35:20,365 --> 07:35:23,875 I'm here as your Sheriff to tell you what I need. 3885 07:35:23,875 --> 07:35:27,601 And you all have a very difficult job of figuring out 3886 07:35:27,601 --> 07:35:30,188 where that needs to come from. 3887 07:35:30,188 --> 07:35:31,468 I don't envy you. 3888 07:35:31,468 --> 07:35:34,150 I know it's tough and I saw some of the other presentations 3889 07:35:34,150 --> 07:35:36,415 people talking about cuts. 3890 07:35:37,775 --> 07:35:41,929 I can't say no that we're not going to respond to your house. 3891 07:35:41,929 --> 07:35:44,740 I can't do it and I won't do it. 3892 07:35:44,740 --> 07:35:47,327 When we ask for that huge budget, 3893 07:35:47,327 --> 07:35:50,150 that's why we requested all those people. 3894 07:35:50,150 --> 07:35:51,855 That's what we believe we need. 3895 07:35:51,855 --> 07:35:54,220 And that's what the people want to see. 3896 07:35:54,220 --> 07:35:57,405 As far as red light cameras, I'm a huge component 3897 07:35:57,405 --> 07:35:59,727 of red light cameras. 3898 07:35:59,727 --> 07:36:01,215 I believe they work. 3899 07:36:01,215 --> 07:36:03,550 I believe they actually work. 3900 07:36:03,550 --> 07:36:05,615 I know there's data on both sides that differ, 3901 07:36:05,615 --> 07:36:07,868 but I think they work. 3902 07:36:07,868 --> 07:36:09,448 I see people. 3903 07:36:09,448 --> 07:36:10,168 They know. 3904 07:36:10,168 --> 07:36:12,671 They don't want to hit that red light camera. 3905 07:36:12,671 --> 07:36:16,895 You just approve those school zone cameras a few meetings ago. 3906 07:36:16,895 --> 07:36:20,975 And I know the school board is also in partnership with us, 3907 07:36:20,975 --> 07:36:24,310 looking at the cameras for school busses. 3908 07:36:24,310 --> 07:36:27,235 For people who run around the school bus. 3909 07:36:27,235 --> 07:36:29,550 Which I'm very supportive of. 3910 07:36:29,550 --> 07:36:31,550 To help our kids out. 3911 07:36:31,550 --> 07:36:34,655 All of that will generate revenue. 3912 07:36:34,895 --> 07:36:37,695 I am in favor of that. 3913 07:36:37,695 --> 07:36:38,719 >> One last question. 3914 07:36:38,719 --> 07:36:41,895 What would be your narrative when 3915 07:36:41,895 --> 07:36:46,390 he criticizes Orange County for increasing a budget, 3916 07:36:46,390 --> 07:36:48,815 while he's saying all of this is wasteful. 3917 07:36:48,815 --> 07:36:52,559 What would be your response, in the board's defense 3918 07:36:52,559 --> 07:36:55,255 of a decision like that? 3919 07:36:55,255 --> 07:36:58,855 >> I would say he can come to the Sheriff's office and see. 3920 07:36:58,855 --> 07:37:03,157 We are very fiscally responsible at the Sheriff's office. 3921 07:37:03,157 --> 07:37:06,155 We do a lot of things internally that 3922 07:37:06,155 --> 07:37:10,783 probably upset some of our people, as far as spending goes. 3923 07:37:10,783 --> 07:37:14,615 Because -- I always say, if that was your money, 3924 07:37:14,615 --> 07:37:16,295 you wouldn't buy it. 3925 07:37:16,295 --> 07:37:19,230 It's kind of like the philosophy we have. 3926 07:37:19,230 --> 07:37:22,135 Yeah, I know you want it, but do you need it. 3927 07:37:22,135 --> 07:37:23,738 We put this budget together. 3928 07:37:23,738 --> 07:37:25,546 It's not that I want it. 3929 07:37:25,546 --> 07:37:28,503 Gets that I need it. 3930 07:37:28,503 --> 07:37:31,503 I said this last year. 3931 07:37:32,255 --> 07:37:35,855 We are growing every single year. 3932 07:37:36,175 --> 07:37:39,828 The visitors aren't going to slow down. 3933 07:37:39,828 --> 07:37:43,508 I would tell him that the people want 3934 07:37:43,508 --> 07:37:45,535 to see more law enforcement. 3935 07:37:45,535 --> 07:37:47,551 We are being very fiscally responsible 3936 07:37:47,551 --> 07:37:49,390 with the funds we have. 3937 07:37:49,390 --> 07:37:50,735 We always have been. 3938 07:37:50,735 --> 07:37:55,375 They are open to having him look at the budget. 3939 07:37:55,375 --> 07:37:59,151 I think the county as a whole does a very good job of that. 3940 07:37:59,151 --> 07:38:02,775 Some of the reports I've seen on that, 3941 07:38:02,775 --> 07:38:07,175 and without the specifics to back that up, 3942 07:38:07,175 --> 07:38:09,788 I really don't think -- 3943 07:38:09,788 --> 07:38:13,388 I think it's money that's needed. 3944 07:38:14,343 --> 07:38:19,143 I know myself, probably the Florida Sheriffs Association 3945 07:38:19,631 --> 07:38:24,431 will be doing some education about amendment three. 3946 07:38:25,541 --> 07:38:28,604 Whether it can have an impact. 3947 07:38:28,604 --> 07:38:32,316 And honestly, one of the reasons the governor 3948 07:38:32,316 --> 07:38:35,767 is not campaigning for it is because he knows. 3949 07:38:35,767 --> 07:38:37,271 Based on polling. 3950 07:38:37,271 --> 07:38:41,471 It may not be popular with everyone. 3951 07:38:42,255 --> 07:38:48,255 >> Lastly Sheriff, when -- if this goes, first of all, 3952 07:38:49,255 --> 07:38:50,503 just the ballot language. 3953 07:38:50,503 --> 07:38:52,406 I said this to the fire chief as well. 3954 07:38:52,406 --> 07:38:55,670 If you read it, it talks about how 3955 07:38:55,670 --> 07:38:58,490 the revenue that when we left from property tax, 3956 07:38:58,490 --> 07:39:02,815 it should be used for an enlist these categories of funding. 3957 07:39:02,815 --> 07:39:04,268 Including public safety. 3958 07:39:04,268 --> 07:39:07,310 I think it sounds very misleading to voters 3959 07:39:07,310 --> 07:39:11,151 because they don't really think it's a defunding of the police. 3960 07:39:11,151 --> 07:39:13,807 They think it's still going to be used for that 3961 07:39:13,807 --> 07:39:16,601 and people support that spending mechanism. 3962 07:39:16,601 --> 07:39:21,241 I think you have an opportunity to educate voters that hey, 3963 07:39:21,241 --> 07:39:23,561 it does impact our budget. 3964 07:39:23,561 --> 07:39:25,561 Your budget. 3965 07:39:25,795 --> 07:39:28,143 >> I know the language is not perfect. 3966 07:39:28,143 --> 07:39:32,635 I know there's some lawsuits out there against the amendment 3967 07:39:32,635 --> 07:39:34,215 and the language. 3968 07:39:34,215 --> 07:39:36,215 Absolutely. 3969 07:39:36,335 --> 07:39:40,950 >> Lastly, just yes or no, but when you pull somebody over, 3970 07:39:40,950 --> 07:39:44,895 do you run them through immigration software >> No 3971 07:39:47,370 --> 07:39:49,780 there's no immigration software database. 3972 07:39:49,780 --> 07:39:50,865 It's the same thing that's been happening 3973 07:39:50,865 --> 07:39:54,715 since I have been in law enforcement, when I started. 3974 07:39:54,715 --> 07:39:57,211 We run it through the NCIC. 3975 07:39:57,211 --> 07:40:01,103 Which is the database that's been around for many years. 3976 07:40:01,103 --> 07:40:04,855 That tells us whether they have a warrant. 3977 07:40:04,855 --> 07:40:10,255 And the thing that changed under this last administration 3978 07:40:10,435 --> 07:40:15,175 is they took a lot of their ice detainers 3979 07:40:15,175 --> 07:40:17,475 and put it into that system. 3980 07:40:17,475 --> 07:40:21,887 So when a deputy or officer runs that person's driver's license, 3981 07:40:21,887 --> 07:40:24,735 it could pop up if they have a detainer. 3982 07:40:24,735 --> 07:40:27,585 That's when we call one of our designated immigration officers 3983 07:40:27,585 --> 07:40:28,881 to come and investigate. 3984 07:40:28,881 --> 07:40:31,850 And to communicate with Ice. 3985 07:40:31,850 --> 07:40:32,708 And check their system.. 3986 07:40:32,708 --> 07:40:34,735 We want to make sure you have that. 3987 07:40:34,735 --> 07:40:39,100 But more often than not, because I ask our deputies every day. 3988 07:40:39,100 --> 07:40:41,803 And again I invite you to go ride with one of our deputies. 3989 07:40:41,803 --> 07:40:43,867 You'll see them run people and you'll 3990 07:40:43,867 --> 07:40:45,937 see that doesn't happen a lot. 3991 07:40:45,937 --> 07:40:49,663 A lot of the people that have been -- 3992 07:40:49,663 --> 07:40:52,191 a lot of the criminals who are in our country illegally 3993 07:40:52,191 --> 07:40:54,615 and committed some serious crime, 3994 07:40:54,615 --> 07:40:56,908 a lot of those have been picked up and deported. 3995 07:40:56,908 --> 07:40:59,957 And I ask deputies all the time, how often 3996 07:40:59,957 --> 07:41:02,255 do you get one of those ice detainers? 3997 07:41:02,255 --> 07:41:03,655 Almost never. 3998 07:41:03,655 --> 07:41:05,411 More often than not, what happens 3999 07:41:05,411 --> 07:41:07,991 is we arrest that person for a local charge, 4000 07:41:07,991 --> 07:41:10,960 and when they get jail and their fingerprints are run, 4001 07:41:10,960 --> 07:41:12,701 that's when Ice finds out. 4002 07:41:12,701 --> 07:41:15,668 And that's when Ice decides they want to hold them. 4003 07:41:15,668 --> 07:41:16,708 So very rarely. 4004 07:41:16,708 --> 07:41:19,175 The data is in your own jail. 4005 07:41:19,175 --> 07:41:22,305 There was eight people in there this morning on an Ice detainer. 4006 07:41:22,305 --> 07:41:23,845 That's it. 4007 07:41:23,845 --> 07:41:25,460 Eight people. 4008 07:41:25,460 --> 07:41:30,260 Out of the 2500, 3000 people that are in there. 4009 07:41:31,270 --> 07:41:32,855 The data proves it. 4010 07:41:32,855 --> 07:41:34,687 It's not the priority. 4011 07:41:34,687 --> 07:41:37,750 And to answer your question again, 4012 07:41:37,750 --> 07:41:39,468 yes, there's not a special system 4013 07:41:39,468 --> 07:41:42,475 that we run those folks through. 4014 07:41:42,475 --> 07:41:45,577 >> Again I just want to say, generally I am supportive. 4015 07:41:45,577 --> 07:41:47,999 But I am concerned that the narratives 4016 07:41:47,999 --> 07:41:49,863 don't align at this time. 4017 07:41:49,863 --> 07:41:54,950 When we talk about increasing local taxes while the state 4018 07:41:54,950 --> 07:41:57,239 is slamming us for having too much money in taxes. 4019 07:41:57,239 --> 07:42:00,239 So I'm concerned about that. 4020 07:42:01,655 --> 07:42:05,655 >>, not our area, you're talking about this? 4021 07:42:05,655 --> 07:42:07,415 >> Yea, but it's your narrative. 4022 07:42:07,415 --> 07:42:09,815 It's how we respond. 4023 07:42:09,901 --> 07:42:15,301 If we absorb, I think it's like a $46 million 4024 07:42:15,575 --> 07:42:19,551 increase, at the same time we're being actively criticized 4025 07:42:19,551 --> 07:42:24,623 by the state, the governors, that we have too much money. 4026 07:42:24,623 --> 07:42:26,261 And we increase again. 4027 07:42:26,261 --> 07:42:28,119 And I think it drives the narrative 4028 07:42:28,119 --> 07:42:30,375 to justify for taxpayers to choose 4029 07:42:30,375 --> 07:42:32,775 to defund local government. 4030 07:42:33,335 --> 07:42:35,379 >> Again I will just say that I'm happy, 4031 07:42:35,379 --> 07:42:39,295 we have an independent audit every year. 4032 07:42:39,295 --> 07:42:41,695 I'm happy for any audit. 4033 07:42:41,695 --> 07:42:43,607 Law enforcement's in a different position. 4034 07:42:43,607 --> 07:42:46,995 We can't tell people know that we're not going to come. 4035 07:42:46,995 --> 07:42:51,195 And to the point, the growth continues. 4036 07:42:51,975 --> 07:42:54,775 It's not like we're getting smaller. 4037 07:42:54,775 --> 07:42:55,748 And 4038 07:42:55,748 --> 07:42:59,845 >> They didn't play that game with law enforcement. 4039 07:42:59,845 --> 07:43:01,845 For political reasons. 4040 07:43:02,239 --> 07:43:06,575 What I will tell you though, Commissioner Semerad, 4041 07:43:06,575 --> 07:43:11,975 the Sheriff initially submitted a budget request of 508,000 -- 4042 07:43:12,943 --> 07:43:14,911 $508 million. 4043 07:43:14,911 --> 07:43:16,215 As indicated. 4044 07:43:16,215 --> 07:43:21,615 But to his credit, he reduced that to $470 million. 4045 07:43:22,324 --> 07:43:25,324 After a conversation with us. 4046 07:43:25,403 --> 07:43:28,815 He lives in the same world we live in. 4047 07:43:28,815 --> 07:43:32,506 The same state that we live in. 4048 07:43:32,506 --> 07:43:35,935 And the only thing we ask was okay, 4049 07:43:35,935 --> 07:43:38,335 Sheriff, take a look at that. 4050 07:43:38,335 --> 07:43:42,348 Because that is not something we can 4051 07:43:42,348 --> 07:43:46,375 make happen and the current environment that we're in. 4052 07:43:46,375 --> 07:43:51,175 So like all divisions of government, all we can do 4053 07:43:51,175 --> 07:43:55,935 is take a tough look at our themselves from time to time. 4054 07:43:55,935 --> 07:43:58,245 To reduce where they can. 4055 07:43:58,245 --> 07:43:59,810 He did that. 4056 07:43:59,810 --> 07:44:01,243 He came and he said this is what I need. 4057 07:44:01,243 --> 07:44:03,379 Out of that $470 million. 4058 07:44:03,379 --> 07:44:08,415 The Sheriff talked about the law enforcement municipal service 4059 07:44:08,415 --> 07:44:08,969 tax. 4060 07:44:08,969 --> 07:44:13,655 We are one of the few counties in Florida 4061 07:44:13,655 --> 07:44:16,839 that has a law enforcement Mstu. 4062 07:44:16,839 --> 07:44:19,495 We have a fire as well. 4063 07:44:19,495 --> 07:44:24,295 Many counties don't have a specific taxing mechanism 4064 07:44:24,527 --> 07:44:27,527 to fund their law enforcement. 4065 07:44:27,641 --> 07:44:29,501 Their Sheriff's office. 4066 07:44:29,501 --> 07:44:31,501 But we do. 4067 07:44:31,561 --> 07:44:36,823 It's been decades since that law enforcement mstu paid 4068 07:44:36,823 --> 07:44:39,223 100% of the Sheriff's budget. 4069 07:44:40,345 --> 07:44:43,848 The Sheriff, as he has indicated to you, 4070 07:44:43,848 --> 07:44:47,863 his job is to come and tell us what he thinks that he needs. 4071 07:44:47,863 --> 07:44:52,700 And as a former Sheriff, that's exactly what I did. 4072 07:44:52,700 --> 07:44:56,201 But it's up to us, the Board of County Commission that 4073 07:44:56,201 --> 07:44:58,725 has to fund the Sheriff, to figure out 4074 07:44:58,725 --> 07:44:59,985 how we're going to fund that. 4075 07:44:59,985 --> 07:45:03,910 And so what we've done for decades now, 4076 07:45:03,910 --> 07:45:08,491 we have supplemented what law enforcement mstu brings in. 4077 07:45:09,295 --> 07:45:12,828 And this budget, we are doing that period this time 4078 07:45:12,828 --> 07:45:14,575 we are looking at our public service 4079 07:45:14,575 --> 07:45:16,975 tax on communication tax. 4080 07:45:17,871 --> 07:45:19,375 136 million. 4081 07:45:19,375 --> 07:45:23,887 And then we're supplementing that from our general fund. 4082 07:45:23,887 --> 07:45:26,881 The non revenues that we bring in. 4083 07:45:26,881 --> 07:45:32,281 And we're providing 93.5 million from that period between the 240 4084 07:45:33,550 --> 07:45:35,231 with law enforcement Mstu. 4085 07:45:35,231 --> 07:45:38,831 The 136 with the public service tax. 4086 07:45:39,343 --> 07:45:43,983 And the 93.5 million that Kurt went over this morning. 4087 07:45:43,983 --> 07:45:46,855 That gets him to 470 million. 4088 07:45:46,855 --> 07:45:49,855 That's what he is requesting. 4089 07:45:50,655 --> 07:45:53,831 And that's what we have put in this budget. 4090 07:45:53,831 --> 07:45:55,575 He is sensitive. 4091 07:45:55,575 --> 07:45:59,521 What he's saying to you, he's sensitive to the era 4092 07:45:59,521 --> 07:46:01,911 in which we're living in. 4093 07:46:01,911 --> 07:46:04,441 Where there's a property tax reform 4094 07:46:04,441 --> 07:46:08,843 going on a ballot at the same time and the Sheriff is correct. 4095 07:46:08,843 --> 07:46:13,903 He came last year and for the last several years 4096 07:46:13,903 --> 07:46:19,279 and he thinks we ought to increase the law enforcement 4097 07:46:19,279 --> 07:46:20,700 Mstu. 4098 07:46:20,700 --> 07:46:23,695 But in the prior year we increased the fire Mstu. 4099 07:46:23,695 --> 07:46:26,775 What we're trying to do is balance that out 4100 07:46:26,775 --> 07:46:28,455 with affordability. 4101 07:46:28,455 --> 07:46:32,310 What can our taxpayers afford in this county. 4102 07:46:32,310 --> 07:46:34,395 And that's the balancing act that we all have to do. 4103 07:46:34,395 --> 07:46:36,585 We have to be sensitive to everything 4104 07:46:36,585 --> 07:46:40,680 that everyone comes in here and needs funding for. 4105 07:46:40,680 --> 07:46:42,590 But we made a commitment. 4106 07:46:42,590 --> 07:46:46,190 The Sheriff has the largest budget. 4107 07:46:46,247 --> 07:46:47,735 First off. 4108 07:46:47,735 --> 07:46:53,135 And we made that a priority Become a Sheriff. 4109 07:46:54,550 --> 07:46:58,255 We have funded positions for the Sheriff. 4110 07:46:58,255 --> 07:47:01,471 We have tried to work with the Sheriff to the best 4111 07:47:01,471 --> 07:47:02,839 that we could. 4112 07:47:02,839 --> 07:47:05,695 Provide him with the revenue that he needs. 4113 07:47:05,695 --> 07:47:10,861 And they've done a good job here crime is down. 4114 07:47:10,861 --> 07:47:11,759 That's indisputable. 4115 07:47:11,759 --> 07:47:16,111 At a time when our population has grown, 4116 07:47:16,111 --> 07:47:20,775 I can tell you looking at the booking numbers every year, 4117 07:47:20,775 --> 07:47:24,975 and 2020, the total bookings in our jail, 28,442. 4118 07:47:31,270 --> 07:47:33,270 2021, (indiscernible). 4119 07:47:38,695 --> 07:47:40,695 2024, 35,000 hundred 13. 4120 07:47:43,335 --> 07:47:45,335 2025 41,876. 4121 07:47:45,495 --> 07:47:49,695 It went up by a little over 600. 4122 07:47:52,935 --> 07:47:56,407 What is that attributed to, a number 4123 07:47:56,407 --> 07:48:01,807 of things but probably some immigration bookings in there 4124 07:48:01,955 --> 07:48:06,155 that caused our numbers to go up. 4125 07:48:06,455 --> 07:48:09,630 But, I've been around a long time. 4126 07:48:09,630 --> 07:48:14,405 I remember when our population was down about 1.6 million. 4127 07:48:14,405 --> 07:48:19,205 When our population was 900,000 and we booked 61,000 people 4128 07:48:20,975 --> 07:48:22,328 through our jail. 4129 07:48:22,328 --> 07:48:27,359 And so just in 2025, even with the numbers going up, 4130 07:48:27,359 --> 07:48:29,548 we are still 20,000 bookings. 4131 07:48:29,548 --> 07:48:33,415 And this is all law enforcement that books into our jail. 4132 07:48:33,415 --> 07:48:41,215 Still 20,000 under where we were a decade and a half or so ago. 4133 07:48:42,950 --> 07:48:44,855 I think there are good reasons why 4134 07:48:44,855 --> 07:48:46,855 those bookings have gone down. 4135 07:48:46,855 --> 07:48:49,358 There's some good law enforcement in there. 4136 07:48:49,358 --> 07:48:52,868 But I don't want us to ever lose sight of what we 4137 07:48:52,868 --> 07:48:55,868 spend on fixing broken people. 4138 07:48:57,515 --> 07:49:00,495 Stopping people from becoming broken. 4139 07:49:00,495 --> 07:49:02,735 All those children's programs that we 4140 07:49:02,735 --> 07:49:07,655 have funded that we've talked about in this budget. 4141 07:49:07,655 --> 07:49:10,655 With the money we're spending. 4142 07:49:11,550 --> 07:49:13,315 People who are mentally ill. 4143 07:49:13,315 --> 07:49:15,635 We increased our budget. 4144 07:49:15,635 --> 07:49:20,559 We are taking care of people who have a substance abuse problem. 4145 07:49:20,559 --> 07:49:25,359 We spend money to make certain that -- 4146 07:49:25,583 --> 07:49:28,495 without treatment some of these people will still continue 4147 07:49:28,495 --> 07:49:31,441 to commit those crimes over and over again. 4148 07:49:31,441 --> 07:49:35,991 It is not a silver bullet just to say you can do this. 4149 07:49:35,991 --> 07:49:40,595 You cannot arrest your way out of a crime problem. 4150 07:49:40,595 --> 07:49:42,665 You have to look at it holistically. 4151 07:49:42,665 --> 07:49:46,881 The Sheriff and law enforcement is a big part of this. 4152 07:49:46,881 --> 07:49:50,519 But all these other programs that we have talked about today, 4153 07:49:50,519 --> 07:49:53,775 that you've seen, that you've heard about, 4154 07:49:53,775 --> 07:49:56,452 we have to do those things as well. 4155 07:49:56,452 --> 07:50:01,551 I just want us to have a fair conversation about it. 4156 07:50:01,551 --> 07:50:03,881 To look at the bigger, broader picture 4157 07:50:03,881 --> 07:50:07,121 of how we are keeping these numbers relatively down in terms 4158 07:50:07,121 --> 07:50:10,950 of the bookings in our jail. 4159 07:50:10,950 --> 07:50:14,890 And reducing crime at the same time. 4160 07:50:14,890 --> 07:50:16,415 It has been an effective collaborative 4161 07:50:16,415 --> 07:50:17,935 that we have as a community. 4162 07:50:17,935 --> 07:50:23,431 And I wouldn't put what we're doing in our community 4163 07:50:23,431 --> 07:50:24,855 up against any other community. 4164 07:50:24,855 --> 07:50:26,481 The numbers look good. 4165 07:50:26,481 --> 07:50:30,455 But, as the Sheriff said, when he 4166 07:50:30,455 --> 07:50:32,903 talks to those families with those homicides 4167 07:50:32,903 --> 07:50:37,295 that he talked about, every one of them 4168 07:50:37,295 --> 07:50:41,495 wished that that didn't happen to them. 4169 07:50:42,695 --> 07:50:48,950 And so we are here to support law enforcement. 4170 07:50:48,275 --> 07:50:52,675 I appreciate the Sheriff being sensitive to where we are. 4171 07:50:52,675 --> 07:50:59,615 At the end of the day, we've come to a happy place 4172 07:50:59,615 --> 07:51:04,135 where we're funding the Sheriff, what he says now, 4173 07:51:04,135 --> 07:51:07,615 after looking at the current landscape of what's happening 4174 07:51:07,615 --> 07:51:10,150 in the real world time. 4175 07:51:10,150 --> 07:51:11,748 And he said okay. 4176 07:51:11,748 --> 07:51:14,681 470 million is what I've got to have. 4177 07:51:14,681 --> 07:51:17,810 Is that right, Sheriff? 4178 07:51:17,615 --> 07:51:19,692 >> That's what we're told. 4179 07:51:19,692 --> 07:51:22,705 I want all of the 500 million. 4180 07:51:22,705 --> 07:51:25,105 But like you said. 4181 07:51:25,695 --> 07:51:27,266 >> We can't make money. 4182 07:51:27,266 --> 07:51:29,431 We are not the federal government. 4183 07:51:29,431 --> 07:51:31,950 We cannot run a deficit. 4184 07:51:31,950 --> 07:51:33,630 We cannot run trillion dollar deficit. 4185 07:51:33,630 --> 07:51:36,630 Our budget has to balance. 4186 07:51:37,550 --> 07:51:41,150 And that's a major part of my responsibility. 4187 07:51:41,150 --> 07:51:48,750 It's to present to the board a balanced budget that allows us 4188 07:51:48,750 --> 07:51:49,955 to do everything we need to do. 4189 07:51:49,955 --> 07:51:53,445 Do we all wish we had more money? 4190 07:51:53,445 --> 07:51:53,995 Absolutely. 4191 07:51:53,995 --> 07:51:55,668 But we don't. 4192 07:51:55,668 --> 07:52:00,468 And we may have less money next year. 4193 07:52:00,515 --> 07:52:03,515 So we are preparing now. 4194 07:52:04,315 --> 07:52:09,115 For the prospect that amendment three could pass. 4195 07:52:09,863 --> 07:52:12,607 But we're going to need everybody 4196 07:52:12,607 --> 07:52:15,607 to help with this process. 4197 07:52:16,615 --> 07:52:22,708 And I believe that if we arm the people with factual information 4198 07:52:22,708 --> 07:52:28,108 about the consequences of not providing those services, what 4199 07:52:28,470 --> 07:52:31,275 will happen to this community. 4200 07:52:31,275 --> 07:52:35,475 And listen, I firmly believe that when 4201 07:52:36,615 --> 07:52:42,481 they are armed with information, they'll make the right decision. 4202 07:52:42,481 --> 07:52:44,808 They'll make the right decision. 4203 07:52:44,808 --> 07:52:45,505 Not everybody. 4204 07:52:45,505 --> 07:52:49,550 Because right now this conversation about property tax 4205 07:52:49,550 --> 07:52:54,455 reform is only, the only people that will really see those 4206 07:52:54,455 --> 07:52:59,855 are those who own a home and live in a home. 4207 07:52:59,855 --> 07:53:05,255 If you rent and you don't own that place, 4208 07:53:05,407 --> 07:53:08,763 you're not going to see the reduction. 4209 07:53:08,763 --> 07:53:11,800 If you're a commercial property owner, 4210 07:53:11,800 --> 07:53:14,595 that's not part of this conversation today. 4211 07:53:14,595 --> 07:53:19,695 And so that leaves out a lot of people who are not 4212 07:53:19,695 --> 07:53:22,655 going to see the benefit. 4213 07:53:22,655 --> 07:53:26,525 And so we have to make that up somewhere. 4214 07:53:26,525 --> 07:53:28,925 So Sheriff, thank you. 4215 07:53:36,902 --> 07:53:37,694 >> (indiscernible). 4216 07:53:37,694 --> 07:53:38,609 >> I'm coming to you. 4217 07:53:38,609 --> 07:53:41,575 But I wanted to respond to Commissioner Summers 4218 07:53:41,575 --> 07:53:43,225 questions of the Sheriff. 4219 07:53:43,225 --> 07:53:49,225 And kind of restate where we are with the conversation. 4220 07:53:54,855 --> 07:53:56,397 >> Mayor, I appreciate the narrative. 4221 07:53:56,397 --> 07:53:59,255 I didn't know that you went to him 4222 07:53:59,255 --> 07:54:02,329 and said hey, what's the amount that you can do. 4223 07:54:02,329 --> 07:54:04,300 And I hear the 470. 4224 07:54:04,300 --> 07:54:06,911 Maybe there's an opportunity to get more funding 4225 07:54:06,911 --> 07:54:11,375 through AI or technology or something like that. 4226 07:54:11,375 --> 07:54:15,415 >> So we're going to work with the Sheriff. 4227 07:54:15,415 --> 07:54:17,815 Revenues coming in strong. 4228 07:54:18,710 --> 07:54:22,271 If the Sheriff finds himself, like any 4229 07:54:22,903 --> 07:54:25,199 of the other subdivisions that we fund, 4230 07:54:25,199 --> 07:54:27,470 if they find themselves in trouble, 4231 07:54:27,470 --> 07:54:30,375 we're going to take care of them. 4232 07:54:30,375 --> 07:54:33,350 That's the way it works. 4233 07:54:33,350 --> 07:54:35,350 Commissioner Gomez? 4234 07:54:36,335 --> 07:54:39,935 Then Commissioner and then Commissioner Wilson. 4235 07:54:41,241 --> 07:54:43,241 >> Thank you mayor. 4236 07:54:43,783 --> 07:54:46,755 Thank you Sheriff and all your team. 4237 07:54:46,755 --> 07:54:49,155 The whole 200 and -- 4238 07:54:52,527 --> 07:54:54,351 2753 employees. 4239 07:54:54,351 --> 07:54:57,361 We honor you all and respect you. 4240 07:54:57,361 --> 07:54:57,861 Thank you. 4241 07:54:57,861 --> 07:54:59,215 I have a few questions. 4242 07:54:59,215 --> 07:55:01,215 Very easy. 4243 07:55:03,655 --> 07:55:06,655 In May you requested $508 million. 4244 07:55:09,455 --> 07:55:11,455 140 new positions. 4245 07:55:12,710 --> 07:55:17,471 Today with the for 70 million, including the 27 you requested. 4246 07:55:19,985 --> 07:55:21,375 And 4247 07:55:21,375 --> 07:55:22,609 >> 25 are unfunded. 4248 07:55:22,609 --> 07:55:26,803 I will be coming back to this board when I need that funding. 4249 07:55:26,803 --> 07:55:30,550 Because I'm going to close that gap. 4250 07:55:30,550 --> 07:55:32,100 >> That's what I said just a moment ago. 4251 07:55:32,100 --> 07:55:35,100 That's the way we work. 4252 07:55:39,833 --> 07:55:43,815 >> So the 470 does not include those positions that 4253 07:55:43,815 --> 07:55:45,815 you're requesting? 4254 07:55:46,175 --> 07:55:47,205 >> Just the two. 4255 07:55:47,205 --> 07:55:49,735 25 deputies are unfunded at this point. 4256 07:55:49,735 --> 07:55:52,967 Around January, I will be coming back 4257 07:55:52,967 --> 07:55:57,250 before you to request funding for those 25 deputies. 4258 07:55:57,250 --> 07:56:03,850 I anticipate being full by -- >> I wanted clarification on that. 4259 07:56:04,103 --> 07:56:10,103 I know you said you were responding to the commissioners, 4260 07:56:10,718 --> 07:56:13,855 do you know how many of the traffic 4261 07:56:13,855 --> 07:56:18,108 stops that you said had led to Ice arrests, 4262 07:56:18,108 --> 07:56:22,649 do you know how many of them were traffic stops, 4263 07:56:22,649 --> 07:56:25,175 but then it led to ice? 4264 07:56:25,175 --> 07:56:27,575 Does anybody track those? 4265 07:56:27,697 --> 07:56:29,239 >> We don't track those specifically. 4266 07:56:29,239 --> 07:56:32,927 What we track is the number of people we arrest, 4267 07:56:32,927 --> 07:56:37,727 who also happen to have an Ice detainer. 4268 07:56:38,535 --> 07:56:42,135 And that was 106 out of almost 15000. 4269 07:56:45,615 --> 07:56:47,615 >> Okay, thank you. 4270 07:56:47,655 --> 07:56:49,535 >> Commissioner, we have data. 4271 07:56:49,535 --> 07:56:52,495 When they book persons into our jail. 4272 07:56:52,495 --> 07:56:56,950 The jail keeps data on them. 4273 07:56:56,135 --> 07:56:57,895 What the charges are. 4274 07:56:57,895 --> 07:57:02,851 And that's because the Sheriff isn't the only law enforcement. 4275 07:57:02,851 --> 07:57:06,451 They all do, into the jail. 4276 07:57:08,215 --> 07:57:10,215 >> My last question. 4277 07:57:11,495 --> 07:57:13,495 Whose speed 150mph. 4278 07:57:14,219 --> 07:57:17,819 With all this traffic going on. 4279 07:57:23,734 --> 07:57:24,234 >> 528. 4280 07:57:24,234 --> 07:57:26,442 Those are where we catch the ones that are going 150. 4281 07:57:26,442 --> 07:57:27,790 528. 4282 07:57:27,790 --> 07:57:28,497 528. 4283 07:57:28,497 --> 07:57:30,497 408. 4284 07:57:37,177 --> 07:57:41,377 >> I'm going to ask, if they crash, 4285 07:57:43,485 --> 07:57:46,270 >> You will not survive a crash going over 100 miles an hour. 4286 07:57:46,270 --> 07:57:49,270 Most of them stop at. 4287 07:57:52,855 --> 07:57:55,255 The number has decreased. 4288 07:57:55,959 --> 07:57:57,712 The message has got out. 4289 07:57:57,712 --> 07:57:59,411 They see it all over our social media. 4290 07:57:59,411 --> 07:58:01,161 They see it all over the news that they're 4291 07:58:01,161 --> 07:58:04,405 going to go to jail if you're going over 100 miles an hour. 4292 07:58:04,405 --> 07:58:06,565 It's been a pretty successful campaign. 4293 07:58:06,565 --> 07:58:09,823 So what I'm hoping, and what I think we'll see, 4294 07:58:09,823 --> 07:58:12,383 is traffic fatalities as a result 4295 07:58:12,383 --> 07:58:18,550 of speed, decline throughout the state period not just here. 4296 07:58:18,550 --> 07:58:24,550 >> Because we have to protect our -- okay, thank you. 4297 07:58:25,535 --> 07:58:27,535 >> Commissioner Garibay. 4298 07:58:27,735 --> 07:58:28,401 >> Sheriff. 4299 07:58:28,401 --> 07:58:33,115 First of all, I took the women's defense and I give it a two 4300 07:58:33,115 --> 07:58:33,615 thumbs up. 4301 07:58:33,615 --> 07:58:35,175 Your team was great. 4302 07:58:35,175 --> 07:58:36,715 But it was great. 4303 07:58:36,715 --> 07:58:39,575 I even made a video and I was in a room full of women 4304 07:58:39,575 --> 07:58:44,892 and it was fantastic and I can't remember the gentleman as older. 4305 07:58:44,892 --> 07:58:49,920 If you say his name, I'll know. 4306 07:58:49,655 --> 07:58:53,255 >> Wayne -- >> It was really great. 4307 07:58:56,200 --> 07:58:58,527 I also, even though Commissioner Scott was not 4308 07:58:58,527 --> 07:59:01,871 trying to crochet on my spaghetti dinners, 4309 07:59:01,871 --> 07:59:05,850 we have really, they have been incredible. 4310 07:59:05,850 --> 07:59:09,463 First you bring your team and your team is amazing. 4311 07:59:09,463 --> 07:59:14,295 But it's really been nice where it's a welcoming environment. 4312 07:59:14,295 --> 07:59:16,143 Everybody is relaxed. 4313 07:59:16,143 --> 07:59:19,950 It's not a pressure issue. 4314 07:59:19,950 --> 07:59:23,280 I thank you for being a partner. 4315 07:59:23,280 --> 07:59:26,927 I did want to ask you, two questions. 4316 07:59:26,927 --> 07:59:31,335 What is our current response time when somebody 4317 07:59:31,335 --> 07:59:33,511 calls for law enforcement? 4318 07:59:33,511 --> 07:59:36,810 I know we have sectors. 4319 07:59:36,810 --> 07:59:39,561 And I've been unfortunately on the longer side 4320 07:59:39,561 --> 07:59:42,969 but I'm also in sector four which is a high intensity area. 4321 07:59:42,969 --> 07:59:48,595 I don't want to be judgmental but do you have those numbers. 4322 07:59:48,595 --> 07:59:51,375 Pretty much where we are. 4323 07:59:51,375 --> 07:59:52,929 >> I don't have them in front of me. 4324 07:59:52,929 --> 07:59:55,935 But we keep track of all different emergency calls. 4325 07:59:55,935 --> 07:59:57,828 Calls where the suspect has already gone. 4326 07:59:57,828 --> 08:00:00,295 We keep track of all of that. 4327 08:00:00,295 --> 08:00:03,165 We can definitely get you that information based on the area. 4328 08:00:03,165 --> 08:00:05,986 And sometimes it does depend on the area. 4329 08:00:05,986 --> 08:00:07,855 I saw your presentation earlier. 4330 08:00:07,855 --> 08:00:10,855 We have 5932 miles of road. 4331 08:00:11,248 --> 08:00:13,775 It takes a while to get there. 4332 08:00:13,775 --> 08:00:15,775 And again 8000mi². 4333 08:00:16,703 --> 08:00:20,303 As this community continues to grow. 4334 08:00:20,495 --> 08:00:21,588 We need more deputies. 4335 08:00:21,588 --> 08:00:25,921 But we can provide any area response times. 4336 08:00:25,921 --> 08:00:27,559 >> I was just curious. 4337 08:00:27,559 --> 08:00:28,849 We hear that a lot. 4338 08:00:28,849 --> 08:00:30,745 And when we talk to municipalities that's 4339 08:00:30,745 --> 08:00:33,728 the reason for wanting their own city police 4340 08:00:33,728 --> 08:00:38,300 and when I think of the work you guys do, 4341 08:00:38,300 --> 08:00:43,550 I have to give you kudos for the amount of work you've put in, 4342 08:00:43,550 --> 08:00:45,775 and your team, over the last couple of years. 4343 08:00:45,775 --> 08:00:47,241 It's like night and day. 4344 08:00:47,241 --> 08:00:49,441 It's really great to hear residents actually 4345 08:00:49,441 --> 08:00:52,663 acknowledge they've been seeing a difference. 4346 08:00:52,663 --> 08:00:54,751 I wanted to ask another question. 4347 08:00:54,751 --> 08:00:59,875 How much -- I can't help but see in our visitor areas, 4348 08:00:59,875 --> 08:01:03,518 our tourism areas, you guys have a high presence. 4349 08:01:03,518 --> 08:01:05,719 Is that mostly off duty or is that you 4350 08:01:05,719 --> 08:01:10,950 guys patrolling that area pretty intensely, do you know? 4351 08:01:10,950 --> 08:01:10,935 >> It's both. 4352 08:01:10,935 --> 08:01:14,111 Obviously all the theme parks, a higher number 4353 08:01:14,111 --> 08:01:15,775 of off duty deputies. 4354 08:01:15,775 --> 08:01:18,679 Disney funds the on duty deputies there, 4355 08:01:18,679 --> 08:01:22,879 but they also fund well over $1 million 4356 08:01:22,889 --> 08:01:25,992 in off duty deputies every year as well. 4357 08:01:25,992 --> 08:01:30,615 You will always see a high presence in that area. 4358 08:01:30,615 --> 08:01:33,127 >> We hear a lot and we all kind of agree that we would like 4359 08:01:33,127 --> 08:01:36,775 to see some tourism dollars for public safety. 4360 08:01:36,775 --> 08:01:40,500 You guys do do a lot out there. 4361 08:01:40,500 --> 08:01:42,743 If we ever needed to request that information, 4362 08:01:42,743 --> 08:01:46,527 do you have a little more detail about your presence 4363 08:01:46,527 --> 08:01:48,183 or the amount of calls. 4364 08:01:48,183 --> 08:01:51,750 I've been to the luncheons where they recognize officers 4365 08:01:51,750 --> 08:01:52,555 every month. 4366 08:01:52,555 --> 08:01:55,271 For going way beyond the call of duty. 4367 08:01:55,271 --> 08:01:58,899 It would just be interesting to know. 4368 08:01:58,899 --> 08:02:00,389 You know that data. 4369 08:02:00,389 --> 08:02:03,289 We see it come up but we don't know it. 4370 08:02:03,289 --> 08:02:06,143 Would be nice to really understand how much of an impact 4371 08:02:06,143 --> 08:02:09,121 that is in that area. 4372 08:02:09,121 --> 08:02:11,815 >> Yeah how about we keep all that data up here 4373 08:02:11,815 --> 08:02:13,935 >> I just have to tell you. 4374 08:02:13,935 --> 08:02:15,159 Your JAG unit. 4375 08:02:15,159 --> 08:02:16,559 Your community folks. 4376 08:02:16,559 --> 08:02:20,140 Your team has really stepped up. 4377 08:02:20,140 --> 08:02:24,645 I feel to be more inclusive with the community. 4378 08:02:24,645 --> 08:02:26,687 I know that has a lot to do with your leadership. 4379 08:02:26,687 --> 08:02:29,855 But it's really refreshing to see. 4380 08:02:29,855 --> 08:02:31,350 I've even seen -- 4381 08:02:31,350 --> 08:02:33,431 I mean I shop at Walmart. 4382 08:02:33,431 --> 08:02:38,308 And I've seen your guys actually engage with the community. 4383 08:02:38,308 --> 08:02:41,875 Really go out of their way to make people feel comfortable. 4384 08:02:41,875 --> 08:02:42,819 Especially children. 4385 08:02:42,819 --> 08:02:46,670 And I think that's really important nowadays. 4386 08:02:46,670 --> 08:02:49,950 I heard you speak at the Nobel lunch. 4387 08:02:49,950 --> 08:02:50,645 And it was very impressive. 4388 08:02:50,645 --> 08:02:54,245 About how you talked to -- 4389 08:02:54,407 --> 08:02:57,895 law enforcement is love and anger. 4390 08:02:57,895 --> 08:02:59,655 That trend across the country. 4391 08:02:59,655 --> 08:03:01,915 It's difficult for you all to know. 4392 08:03:01,915 --> 08:03:03,565 Right now you're a hero. 4393 08:03:03,565 --> 08:03:06,350 Next time you'll hear something totally opposite. 4394 08:03:06,350 --> 08:03:08,415 It's really nice to see you guys purposely 4395 08:03:08,415 --> 08:03:10,687 engage with the community. 4396 08:03:10,687 --> 08:03:13,111 And that has a lot to do with your leadership. 4397 08:03:13,111 --> 08:03:15,967 And I'm a little biased. 4398 08:03:15,967 --> 08:03:18,367 Even your water folks. 4399 08:03:19,375 --> 08:03:22,375 The engagement has been phenomenal. 4400 08:03:23,225 --> 08:03:27,575 I'm just talking about what I experienced as a commissioner 4401 08:03:27,575 --> 08:03:28,555 with the team. 4402 08:03:28,555 --> 08:03:31,943 And even when we've seen events go on where normally they 4403 08:03:31,943 --> 08:03:33,851 would be kind of like not right but as long 4404 08:03:33,851 --> 08:03:35,887 as everything is cool, they're cool. 4405 08:03:35,887 --> 08:03:38,831 They don't purposely go and agitate the crowd. 4406 08:03:38,831 --> 08:03:42,807 And I'll just say, recently we had a big soccer game. 4407 08:03:42,807 --> 08:03:45,750 When Columbia was playing somebody. 4408 08:03:45,750 --> 08:03:47,510 Right at the Florida mall. 4409 08:03:47,510 --> 08:03:48,525 At one of the Columbia restaurants. 4410 08:03:48,525 --> 08:03:50,135 We were so excited. 4411 08:03:50,135 --> 08:03:52,488 And everybody was good. 4412 08:03:52,488 --> 08:03:54,615 You guys let it happen. 4413 08:03:54,615 --> 08:03:56,455 They were fine. 4414 08:03:56,455 --> 08:03:58,529 There was no issue. 4415 08:03:58,529 --> 08:04:00,623 And I got to see that firsthand. 4416 08:04:00,623 --> 08:04:04,441 As just a person going out to dinner. 4417 08:04:04,441 --> 08:04:07,280 I just wanted to say that. 4418 08:04:07,280 --> 08:04:09,428 That was very impressive. 4419 08:04:10,241 --> 08:04:11,303 >> We appreciate that. 4420 08:04:11,303 --> 08:04:12,675 And I have a wonderful team. 4421 08:04:12,675 --> 08:04:14,992 A lot of them are here. 4422 08:04:14,992 --> 08:04:18,550 All of our deputies commonly get the philosophy 4423 08:04:18,550 --> 08:04:22,650 and our philosophy, I tell them this all the time, I want -- 4424 08:04:22,650 --> 08:04:25,980 I like when the bad guy goes to jail, 4425 08:04:25,980 --> 08:04:29,365 but we also have to take time to engage with our residents. 4426 08:04:29,365 --> 08:04:30,368 Especially our kids. 4427 08:04:30,368 --> 08:04:35,455 And I think we're seeing the results of that. 4428 08:04:35,455 --> 08:04:42,640 >> I think we already beat the bag on the money part of >> I do 4429 08:04:42,640 --> 08:04:43,356 have a question for all of you. 4430 08:04:43,356 --> 08:04:44,935 >> Commissioner Wilson -- 4431 08:04:44,935 --> 08:04:47,335 Sheriff, just indulge us. 4432 08:04:47,495 --> 08:04:49,255 Trying to get through this 4433 08:04:49,255 --> 08:04:54,550 >> Quick procedural question, if we were to -- 4434 08:04:56,117 --> 08:04:58,921 could we even do that even though we're one short? 4435 08:04:58,921 --> 08:05:02,605 >> The new law that just passed, you can only raise 0.0922. 4436 08:05:02,605 --> 08:05:06,205 Because we're missing a board member. 4437 08:05:07,111 --> 08:05:10,295 That requires unanimous vote of the board. 4438 08:05:10,295 --> 08:05:15,950 And we've confirmed with the state that rule. 4439 08:05:15,415 --> 08:05:18,415 So under the millage calculation, 4440 08:05:22,508 --> 08:05:26,708 under the unanimous amount, it would be 0.0922, 4441 08:05:27,623 --> 08:05:34,921 it's the only amount the board would be able to do this year. 4442 08:05:34,921 --> 08:05:40,591 Next year the board goes to nine and it doesn't require -- 4443 08:05:40,591 --> 08:05:45,439 the law requires three fourths vote this year unfortunately 4444 08:05:45,439 --> 08:05:52,777 the way the law is written, it only allows for a very small -- 4445 08:05:52,777 --> 08:05:54,675 >> It's $12 million. 4446 08:05:54,675 --> 08:05:58,375 So you could do that and give us $12 million. 4447 08:05:58,375 --> 08:06:01,420 And we could fund more deputies. 4448 08:06:01,420 --> 08:06:02,625 >> I was curious about the procedural. 4449 08:06:02,625 --> 08:06:04,472 I have one more technical question. 4450 08:06:04,472 --> 08:06:05,323 I apologize. 4451 08:06:05,323 --> 08:06:09,350 I forgot this came up at a community meeting. 4452 08:06:09,350 --> 08:06:10,823 Seems to be coming up more often. 4453 08:06:10,823 --> 08:06:16,223 The cameras people are seeing pop up around town, 4454 08:06:16,428 --> 08:06:19,785 are any of those paid for or utilized 4455 08:06:19,785 --> 08:06:24,265 by the Sheriff's department and what kind of data 4456 08:06:24,265 --> 08:06:25,935 are you getting? 4457 08:06:25,935 --> 08:06:27,135 >> Absolutely. 4458 08:06:27,135 --> 08:06:31,295 We utilize flock cameras to reduce and prevent crime. 4459 08:06:31,295 --> 08:06:33,795 I'll invite every single one of you 4460 08:06:33,795 --> 08:06:35,415 to ride with one of our deputies. 4461 08:06:35,415 --> 08:06:39,150 Especially the deputies and our -- 4462 08:06:39,361 --> 08:06:41,903 you can watch in real time how they actually use that camera. 4463 08:06:41,903 --> 08:06:43,588 I'll give you an example. 4464 08:06:43,588 --> 08:06:47,901 When I was riding not too long ago they were like hey, 4465 08:06:47,901 --> 08:06:49,852 we know about this guy, he's wanted 4466 08:06:49,852 --> 08:06:52,785 he keeps tearing us up with burglaries in this area. 4467 08:06:52,785 --> 08:06:56,985 And we know between 6 and 7 every Thursday, 4468 08:06:58,559 --> 08:07:00,585 he comes by the intersection. 4469 08:07:00,585 --> 08:07:02,550 This is a criminal now. 4470 08:07:02,550 --> 08:07:03,995 This is a person who's wanted. 4471 08:07:03,995 --> 08:07:05,203 Still committing crimes. 4472 08:07:05,203 --> 08:07:08,167 We know he goes through this intersection between 6 and 7:00 4473 08:07:08,167 --> 08:07:09,241 every Thursday night. 4474 08:07:09,241 --> 08:07:11,207 And I was like okay. 4475 08:07:11,207 --> 08:07:11,991 I'll play. 4476 08:07:11,991 --> 08:07:14,135 Sheriff do you mind sitting here with us? 4477 08:07:14,135 --> 08:07:15,601 It might take an hour. 4478 08:07:15,601 --> 08:07:16,591 He might come through. 4479 08:07:16,591 --> 08:07:17,279 He might not. 4480 08:07:17,279 --> 08:07:18,655 We were there five minutes. 4481 08:07:18,655 --> 08:07:21,661 That flock camera notified the deputy on his computer 4482 08:07:21,661 --> 08:07:25,519 in his car and we went down the road and arrested him. 4483 08:07:25,519 --> 08:07:27,919 That's how they work. 4484 08:07:28,148 --> 08:07:29,230 >> I understand that. 4485 08:07:29,230 --> 08:07:32,895 What if that had just been his car and somebody was driving it. 4486 08:07:32,895 --> 08:07:34,375 >> Then they're free to go. 4487 08:07:34,375 --> 08:07:36,950 All that technology. 4488 08:07:36,950 --> 08:07:38,950 Artificial intelligence. 4489 08:07:38,655 --> 08:07:39,588 Facial recognition. 4490 08:07:39,588 --> 08:07:41,811 That doesn't give us probable cause. 4491 08:07:41,811 --> 08:07:45,327 That just points us in the right direction. 4492 08:07:45,327 --> 08:07:48,750 We pull over that person and it's not them, 4493 08:07:48,750 --> 08:07:51,750 then you're free to go. 4494 08:07:51,855 --> 08:07:57,255 >> Yeah, I mean so we won't continue this now. 4495 08:07:58,480 --> 08:08:00,215 >> Law abiding citizens have nothing to worry about. 4496 08:08:00,215 --> 08:08:02,428 There's facial recognition on cruise ships. 4497 08:08:02,428 --> 08:08:07,375 We are on camera right now in the public. 4498 08:08:07,375 --> 08:08:09,810 >> I realize that. 4499 08:08:09,810 --> 08:08:11,231 I realize cars are different. 4500 08:08:11,231 --> 08:08:15,535 You don't have a right to privacy necessarily in your car. 4501 08:08:15,535 --> 08:08:18,961 >> The flock camera, in the old days before flock cameras, 4502 08:08:18,961 --> 08:08:20,588 what would have happened? 4503 08:08:20,588 --> 08:08:23,148 We would have had to look for that license plate and search 4504 08:08:23,148 --> 08:08:24,236 for that license plate. 4505 08:08:24,236 --> 08:08:26,387 It's the same exact thing as a deputy Sheriff 4506 08:08:26,387 --> 08:08:28,275 going there's a blue car. 4507 08:08:28,275 --> 08:08:30,388 A BC123 that's the tag number. 4508 08:08:30,388 --> 08:08:33,494 Give a human can see it, so can a camera. 4509 08:08:33,494 --> 08:08:34,769 It just speeds it up. 4510 08:08:34,769 --> 08:08:35,859 It's in the public. 4511 08:08:35,859 --> 08:08:38,691 It's not like that person was in the backyard. 4512 08:08:38,691 --> 08:08:40,255 It just speeds up the process. 4513 08:08:40,255 --> 08:08:42,348 And again points us in the right direction. 4514 08:08:42,348 --> 08:08:45,814 It doesn't give us probable cause if we can't arrest someone 4515 08:08:45,814 --> 08:08:47,150 because their tag came up. 4516 08:08:47,150 --> 08:08:49,951 But we can go investigate because that tag does belong 4517 08:08:49,951 --> 08:08:53,950 to someone who's wanted and that person is committing crimes 4518 08:08:53,950 --> 08:08:55,495 continually in our neighborhood. 4519 08:08:56,974 --> 08:08:58,308 >> Okay thank you. 4520 08:08:58,308 --> 08:08:59,789 I'm getting a nod from the mayor. 4521 08:08:59,789 --> 08:09:01,581 Who's going to get the hook out in a second 4522 08:09:01,581 --> 08:09:02,705 and pull me off the mic. 4523 08:09:02,705 --> 08:09:07,895 I would love to maybe have a follow up on this one. 4524 08:09:07,895 --> 08:09:12,950 I think there were legitimate privacy concerns. 4525 08:09:12,654 --> 08:09:13,775 >> Yeah. 4526 08:09:13,775 --> 08:09:16,154 Talk with you individually. 4527 08:09:16,154 --> 08:09:20,175 I'm trying to get the man out of here. 4528 08:09:20,175 --> 08:09:23,775 That's high dollars sitting out here. 4529 08:09:24,814 --> 08:09:25,895 Anyway. 4530 08:09:25,895 --> 08:09:27,895 Commissioner Scott. 4531 08:09:28,974 --> 08:09:30,695 >> I have one quick question. 4532 08:09:30,695 --> 08:09:33,410 Request for an update. 4533 08:09:33,410 --> 08:09:37,841 I had this past year a really challenging , 4534 08:09:38,340 --> 08:09:40,582 they created different categories. 4535 08:09:40,582 --> 08:09:47,782 We were able to track that and this was Nashville, Rio Grande. 4536 08:09:48,455 --> 08:09:50,961 I want to say thank you. 4537 08:09:50,961 --> 08:09:53,961 Took us about four months. 4538 08:09:54,695 --> 08:09:55,943 Great stuff. 4539 08:09:55,943 --> 08:10:00,280 We still have things to talk about. 4540 08:10:00,280 --> 08:10:03,488 If you could talk about what you guys do and what you don't do 4541 08:10:03,488 --> 08:10:07,880 when it comes to homelessness. >> Okay. 4542 08:10:10,861 --> 08:10:12,569 Again, we've been doing this a long time. 4543 08:10:12,569 --> 08:10:16,319 The law enforcement always seems to be stuck in the middle. 4544 08:10:16,319 --> 08:10:17,152 Homeless. 4545 08:10:17,152 --> 08:10:17,652 Unhoused. 4546 08:10:17,652 --> 08:10:19,738 Whatever you want to call them today. 4547 08:10:19,738 --> 08:10:21,665 But we do not arrest people simply 4548 08:10:21,665 --> 08:10:23,717 because they do not have a home. 4549 08:10:23,717 --> 08:10:26,391 Most of the people that are homeless that we arrest actually 4550 08:10:26,391 --> 08:10:27,999 committed a crime. 4551 08:10:27,999 --> 08:10:30,503 As you know, it's not against the law. 4552 08:10:30,503 --> 08:10:34,335 The Supreme Court law ruled that it is not against the law 4553 08:10:34,335 --> 08:10:35,294 to ask for money. 4554 08:10:35,294 --> 08:10:38,814 If you can ask what the weather is, you can ask for a dollar. 4555 08:10:38,814 --> 08:10:42,135 Where people get into trouble is they step into traffic 4556 08:10:42,135 --> 08:10:43,843 and that's where we can take some action. 4557 08:10:43,843 --> 08:10:47,601 But I will say we have a lot of business owners, residents, 4558 08:10:47,601 --> 08:10:51,801 community members who complain about homeless people. 4559 08:10:51,955 --> 08:10:53,985 Just because they're homeless. 4560 08:10:53,985 --> 08:10:58,185 Honestly it's not fun to look at. 4561 08:10:58,455 --> 08:11:01,575 But that's not against the law. 4562 08:11:01,575 --> 08:11:04,365 In those areas where people are trespassing 4563 08:11:04,365 --> 08:11:10,365 and they're on county property or they are private citizens 4564 08:11:10,855 --> 08:11:15,150 or business owners property and we get direction to remove 4565 08:11:15,150 --> 08:11:18,615 that person, that's what we do. 4566 08:11:19,680 --> 08:11:21,680 >> All right Sheriff. 4567 08:11:21,137 --> 08:11:23,627 Thank you for staying around. 4568 08:11:23,627 --> 08:11:26,151 We're trying to get you out of here before you're here 4569 08:11:26,151 --> 08:11:27,186 for two hours. 4570 08:11:27,186 --> 08:11:33,160 At the end of the day, it's a long day for us. 4571 08:11:33,160 --> 08:11:35,868 The members of the board. 4572 08:11:35,868 --> 08:11:39,849 Just as a reminder, we will start tomorrow morning 4573 08:11:39,849 --> 08:11:42,849 at zero 900 in the morning. 4574 08:11:45,215 --> 08:11:47,615 We have constitutional offices. 4575 08:11:50,294 --> 08:11:52,294 Byron, 4576 08:11:56,880 --> 08:11:58,588 >> They have all indicated that don't need to be here if you 4577 08:11:58,588 --> 08:11:59,375 don't want them. 4578 08:11:59,375 --> 08:12:02,375 >> I was going to go. 4579 08:12:04,140 --> 08:12:06,140 Sheriff we're done. 4580 08:12:06,195 --> 08:12:09,721 Before we conclude, is there anything 4581 08:12:09,721 --> 08:12:14,521 you would like to say at this point? 4582 08:12:14,615 --> 08:12:15,163 >> No. 4583 08:12:15,163 --> 08:12:17,675 I think it's been a very productive day. 4584 08:12:17,675 --> 08:12:20,750 And tomorrow morning -- 4585 08:12:28,831 --> 08:12:28,910 >> They might want to hear what you're saying. 4586 08:12:28,910 --> 08:12:32,150 The controller is typically here with us all of the time. 4587 08:12:32,150 --> 08:12:34,159 Thanks for being here. 4588 08:12:34,159 --> 08:12:36,595 If there's nothing further, we're 4589 08:12:36,595 --> 08:12:38,526 going to stand adjourned at this time. 4590 08:12:38,526 --> 08:12:40,526 Thank you all.