1 03:27:07,187 --> 03:27:09,187 [music playing] 2 03:27:45,454 --> 03:27:47,372 Mayor Demings: Good afternoon everyone. 3 03:27:47,372 --> 03:27:50,916 Let me welcome all of you back to the Orange County Budget 4 03:27:50,916 --> 03:27:53,316 Commission on July 16th, 2026. 5 03:27:56,691 --> 03:27:59,516 We are now in the afternoon portion 6 03:27:59,516 --> 03:28:03,809 and we will now reconvene as the Orange County Community 7 03:28:03,809 --> 03:28:08,900 Redevelopment Agency commonly known as the OBTCRA. 8 03:28:15,360 --> 03:28:19,236 I'm going to call on Vanessa Pinkney. 9 03:28:19,404 --> 03:28:23,506 She will be coming forward and presenting this item 10 03:28:23,506 --> 03:28:24,636 this afternoon. 11 03:28:24,636 --> 03:28:26,106 After her presentation we will call 12 03:28:26,106 --> 03:28:30,236 members of the board for any questions or comments. 13 03:28:30,236 --> 03:28:33,836 >> Good afternoon, Mayor Demings, administrator Brooks, 14 03:28:41,200 --> 03:28:41,819 commissioners. 15 03:28:41,819 --> 03:28:46,619 I am Vanessa Pinkney manager of the OBTCRA. 16 03:28:50,413 --> 03:28:56,940 Today I will be presenting to you a proposed budget for Fiscal 17 03:28:56,940 --> 03:28:59,940 year 2026-27 for the OBTCRA. 18 03:29:07,372 --> 03:29:13,972 It's going to give you an overview of the OBTCRA, Where 19 03:29:17,706 --> 03:29:22,556 we are and then I will propose the requested action. 20 03:29:22,556 --> 03:29:26,756 Very quickly, the OBTCRA was established in 1994 21 03:29:29,283 --> 03:29:30,902 an initial 30 year term. 22 03:29:30,902 --> 03:29:32,996 That 30 year term was not very productive 23 03:29:32,996 --> 03:29:37,548 and so that term has been extended another 30 years 24 03:29:37,548 --> 03:29:39,548 to the year 2049. 25 03:29:39,964 --> 03:29:44,764 The updated CRA plan is under final review. 26 03:29:49,580 --> 03:29:55,580 We just have to go to the LBCRA for review 27 03:29:56,938 --> 03:30:00,209 and then that will be brought to you for final approval. 28 03:30:00,209 --> 03:30:06,209 As you know the BCC is managed by the OBTCRA. 29 03:30:06,658 --> 03:30:08,366 These are the current Board of Directors. 30 03:30:08,366 --> 03:30:10,936 We have several board of directors. 31 03:30:10,936 --> 03:30:13,701 3 or 4 live in the neighborhood. 32 03:30:13,701 --> 03:30:15,760 Some work within the neighborhood 33 03:30:15,760 --> 03:30:17,876 and we have of course Commissioner Michael Scott 34 03:30:17,876 --> 03:30:21,476 serves on our board, as well. 35 03:30:22,760 --> 03:30:25,760 The OBTCRA area encompasses 759 acres. 36 03:30:27,810 --> 03:30:30,669 37% of those are in the county and you will see that 37 03:30:30,669 --> 03:30:35,656 on the map in the orange and 63% encompasses the city of Orlando. 38 03:30:35,656 --> 03:30:42,116 Boundaries are from colonial to I-4 bounded on the east and west 39 03:30:42,116 --> 03:30:45,716 by Rio Grande and Westmoreland Drive. 40 03:30:50,356 --> 03:30:54,796 And now to get into the project updates of where we've 41 03:30:54,796 --> 03:30:56,948 been since we last saw you and spoken 42 03:30:56,948 --> 03:31:00,801 with you this current year we have 43 03:31:00,801 --> 03:31:04,336 been able to make significant roadway improvements 44 03:31:04,336 --> 03:31:09,560 to West Central Boulevard from Westmoreland to Rio Grande. 45 03:31:09,560 --> 03:31:12,560 Total investment from CRA was $355,000. 46 03:31:13,339 --> 03:31:15,739 That project is 100% complete. 47 03:31:20,191 --> 03:31:22,481 We did that with the city of Orlando 48 03:31:22,481 --> 03:31:25,336 and we are currently working with Orange County Public Works 49 03:31:25,336 --> 03:31:29,616 Division who is going to manage the installation of a new mast 50 03:31:29,616 --> 03:31:31,889 arm at OBT and Michigan. 51 03:31:31,889 --> 03:31:36,890 The CRA investment is $877,000 and simply put, 52 03:31:38,711 --> 03:31:42,508 they have let me know that they have ordered the structure. 53 03:31:42,508 --> 03:31:44,596 They are simply waiting for it to arrive 54 03:31:44,596 --> 03:31:46,622 and it will be installed. 55 03:31:46,622 --> 03:31:51,249 We are continuing to work on residential development. 56 03:31:51,249 --> 03:31:53,820 We work on areas of redevelopment. 57 03:31:53,820 --> 03:31:59,600 We work on -- we are working on new development. 58 03:31:59,600 --> 03:32:02,606 We work on renovating current properties. 59 03:32:03,756 --> 03:32:09,156 And so with that, we are still in partnership 60 03:32:10,226 --> 03:32:12,920 with habitat for humanity. 61 03:32:12,920 --> 03:32:14,920 We are moving along. 62 03:32:14,920 --> 03:32:16,492 We have an agreement. 63 03:32:17,236 --> 03:32:20,636 This board has transferred four of those CRA properties 64 03:32:20,636 --> 03:32:25,272 to habitat to begin that building from to begin building 65 03:32:25,272 --> 03:32:26,940 on those sites. 66 03:32:26,940 --> 03:32:32,524 That was the four and the survey plans have been completed 67 03:32:32,524 --> 03:32:34,216 and concept plans are underway. 68 03:32:34,216 --> 03:32:37,196 What you see is a very rudimentary concept plan 69 03:32:37,196 --> 03:32:39,356 and what is great about this concept 70 03:32:39,356 --> 03:32:44,271 is not only do we want to bring affordable housing, 71 03:32:44,271 --> 03:32:47,396 but we are working with habitat to elevate 72 03:32:47,396 --> 03:32:50,767 the design of the projects and we 73 03:32:50,767 --> 03:32:54,936 want to offer a sampling of different types of housing. 74 03:32:54,936 --> 03:32:56,828 We have some townhomes. 75 03:32:56,828 --> 03:33:00,396 We have a small cluster of cottage homes 76 03:33:00,396 --> 03:33:03,332 and we have a few duplexes. 77 03:33:03,332 --> 03:33:08,132 Right now, we are estimating approximately 23 new homes 78 03:33:10,536 --> 03:33:14,588 planned for that area of Holden Heights and that is on Woods 79 03:33:14,588 --> 03:33:17,773 Avenue between 22nd Street and 24th Street. 80 03:33:17,773 --> 03:33:23,173 So it is two blocks of new development there. 81 03:33:26,956 --> 03:33:32,956 And again, just briefly going over our renovation of homes, 82 03:33:34,672 --> 03:33:37,129 we have a partnership with Rebuilding Together 83 03:33:37,129 --> 03:33:37,851 Central Florida. 84 03:33:37,851 --> 03:33:40,464 We've worked with them for the last 2 or 3 years. 85 03:33:40,464 --> 03:33:46,464 This year the CRA has invested $126,000 to update six owner 86 03:33:47,776 --> 03:33:49,910 occupied homes within the CRA. 87 03:33:49,910 --> 03:33:55,893 As you can see here, this is a before and after of a roof. 88 03:33:55,893 --> 03:33:59,796 We have a number of homeowners who just are not 89 03:33:59,796 --> 03:34:02,619 able to bring their homes up to the standard 90 03:34:02,619 --> 03:34:05,280 and make that level of repair and so 91 03:34:05,280 --> 03:34:08,636 through that partnership we are able to help our residents 92 03:34:08,636 --> 03:34:13,436 stay in their homes, be able to afford 93 03:34:13,627 --> 03:34:15,652 and be able to even acquire insurance. 94 03:34:15,652 --> 03:34:21,132 So that is very important to us, that we are here 95 03:34:21,132 --> 03:34:25,116 for our legacy residents permit this is just 96 03:34:25,116 --> 03:34:28,561 a little more snapshot but you can see it is 97 03:34:28,561 --> 03:34:30,756 a massive change in the before. 98 03:34:30,756 --> 03:34:33,756 This is the same kitchen. 99 03:34:33,756 --> 03:34:35,756 That was renovated. 100 03:34:35,996 --> 03:34:39,660 In the middle you will see there was a terrible water leak. 101 03:34:39,660 --> 03:34:41,660 There was mold. 102 03:34:41,676 --> 03:34:43,740 There was a lot of things going on. 103 03:34:43,740 --> 03:34:47,682 So the kitchen remodel and the plumbing repair and to the right 104 03:34:47,682 --> 03:34:52,554 there you see a very usable, very nice looking kitchen 105 03:34:52,554 --> 03:34:57,760 and again, we are very proud and very happy again 106 03:34:57,760 --> 03:34:58,956 to support our residents who have been here 107 03:34:58,956 --> 03:35:01,876 and who are doing the very best that they can sometimes 108 03:35:01,876 --> 03:35:03,287 with a very limited income. 109 03:35:03,287 --> 03:35:07,378 So we are able to help them and finally we 110 03:35:07,378 --> 03:35:10,316 show you a little bathroom conversion 111 03:35:10,316 --> 03:35:13,709 because we do have a lot of our residents are aging in place. 112 03:35:13,709 --> 03:35:16,764 They want to stay in their homes and to be able to take out 113 03:35:16,764 --> 03:35:23,364 the bathtubs and replace them with a shower and the ability 114 03:35:24,136 --> 03:35:27,673 to -- chairs in different things that they can be able 115 03:35:27,673 --> 03:35:30,131 to continue to bathe themselves and take care of themselves 116 03:35:30,131 --> 03:35:31,164 in their own homes. 117 03:35:31,164 --> 03:35:35,364 So that is very important to us. 118 03:35:35,876 --> 03:35:38,976 One of our great successes this year 119 03:35:38,976 --> 03:35:41,496 has actually been the implementation 120 03:35:41,496 --> 03:35:43,896 of the commercial development. 121 03:35:45,436 --> 03:35:49,966 The CRA has completed a business development grant 122 03:35:49,966 --> 03:35:53,606 program for a small businesses along the Orange Blossom Trail. 123 03:35:53,606 --> 03:35:56,606 They range anywhere from $1,000 to $100,000, 124 03:35:57,620 --> 03:36:03,620 which is within our purview of being able to approve. 125 03:36:04,356 --> 03:36:11,356 Today we have -- at the time of the presentation was made, 126 03:36:11,356 --> 03:36:16,756 we had eight local businesses and had awarded about 735 000. 127 03:36:16,916 --> 03:36:19,943 To date we have about 3 or 4 more 128 03:36:19,943 --> 03:36:22,220 so we are nearer to the million dollar mark 129 03:36:22,220 --> 03:36:25,804 and we've had some great success stories. 130 03:36:25,804 --> 03:36:29,336 We have some local businesses that 131 03:36:29,336 --> 03:36:30,788 have already been put in place. 132 03:36:30,788 --> 03:36:34,760 We are encouraging new businesses to come to the area 133 03:36:34,760 --> 03:36:40,385 to incentivize them to come to the area and like on the Right, 134 03:36:40,385 --> 03:36:43,385 we have the Lager House . 135 03:36:51,619 --> 03:36:54,760 Some of you have visited that business. 136 03:36:54,760 --> 03:36:55,996 And most importantly they have the Canning 137 03:36:55,996 --> 03:36:58,544 they were sending over to Lakeland to be done. 138 03:36:58,544 --> 03:37:00,196 With the help of this grant they were 139 03:37:00,196 --> 03:37:01,821 able to bring that Canning here locally 140 03:37:01,821 --> 03:37:05,964 and so to expand on what we are able to offer our community. 141 03:37:05,964 --> 03:37:08,364 It's a good thing. 142 03:37:09,836 --> 03:37:15,766 And here is a few more of other grant recipients. 143 03:37:15,766 --> 03:37:21,766 We have a young man who does a V -- 144 03:37:23,509 --> 03:37:27,109 AV storytelling and helps with marketing. 145 03:37:27,688 --> 03:37:30,688 We have Sweetie's ice cream. 146 03:37:33,360 --> 03:37:34,138 Formerly. 147 03:37:34,138 --> 03:37:38,636 They've completely renovated and it gets a lot of activity. 148 03:37:38,636 --> 03:37:40,404 Especially with this heat we are having. 149 03:37:40,404 --> 03:37:42,362 I think everybody is very interested in having 150 03:37:42,362 --> 03:37:43,516 a little ice cream. 151 03:37:43,516 --> 03:37:46,156 And there on the right side we have Orlando City Deli. 152 03:37:46,156 --> 03:37:48,449 One of their issues was they did not 153 03:37:48,449 --> 03:37:50,431 have seating in their establishment 154 03:37:50,431 --> 03:37:54,916 so people double down it was a take and order online 155 03:37:54,916 --> 03:37:57,281 or take and go but there is a lot 156 03:37:57,281 --> 03:37:59,156 of people who work in that area and sometimes 157 03:37:59,156 --> 03:38:05,756 they just want to come and sit down, relax, have something. 158 03:38:06,441 --> 03:38:08,684 So they've added new furnishings and new equipment 159 03:38:08,684 --> 03:38:11,116 so they can provide more offerings in there hoping 160 03:38:11,116 --> 03:38:13,282 to expand that business in the future 161 03:38:13,282 --> 03:38:16,316 but for now this does give them more than they 162 03:38:16,316 --> 03:38:19,316 were able to offer before. 163 03:38:20,360 --> 03:38:26,856 And now we will move into the proposed budget for fiscal year 164 03:38:26,856 --> 03:38:28,856 2026 -27. 165 03:38:32,369 --> 03:38:36,569 This is a layout showing the fund 166 03:38:37,796 --> 03:38:40,876 revenue contributions from Orange County at 1.5 million. 167 03:38:40,876 --> 03:38:44,462 City of Orlando 1.3 giving us a subtotal. 168 03:38:44,462 --> 03:38:46,636 It shows the interest that is earned 169 03:38:46,636 --> 03:38:50,948 from the monies in the CRA Trust Fund. 170 03:38:50,948 --> 03:38:52,948 The 5% statutory deduction. 171 03:38:53,386 --> 03:38:56,986 That is mandatory through the CRA, 172 03:38:59,140 --> 03:39:02,140 and the cash brought forward. 173 03:39:03,138 --> 03:39:06,236 So we had a lot of rollover because a lot of our funds 174 03:39:06,236 --> 03:39:06,916 are allocated. 175 03:39:06,916 --> 03:39:09,316 We have some projects in the pipeline 176 03:39:09,316 --> 03:39:11,116 but they aren't short term. 177 03:39:11,116 --> 03:39:13,428 Some of them are not short term projects 178 03:39:13,428 --> 03:39:16,669 so we are holding on to those. 179 03:39:16,669 --> 03:39:18,316 For that. 180 03:39:18,316 --> 03:39:23,396 And so that shows a balanced budget presented to you today 181 03:39:23,396 --> 03:39:30,596 of $8,306,175 and now we will show you a breakdown of how we 182 03:39:33,356 --> 03:39:35,318 have allocated those funds. 183 03:39:35,318 --> 03:39:38,136 We have a couple of neighborhood enhancement projects 184 03:39:38,136 --> 03:39:40,816 that we will continue to maintain. 185 03:39:40,816 --> 03:39:45,321 Those are a retention pond that we keep as an amenity 186 03:39:45,321 --> 03:39:47,896 and that is directly behind the homes 187 03:39:47,896 --> 03:39:52,132 we are building on Woods Avenue and we also 188 03:39:52,132 --> 03:39:55,684 have entryway features that we are updating 189 03:39:55,684 --> 03:39:59,356 and we will continue to maintain those. 190 03:39:59,356 --> 03:40:02,356 So total neighborhood enhancements are 800 $0. 191 03:40:02,756 --> 03:40:08,156 The Woods Avenue construction, we've talked to this board 192 03:40:08,196 --> 03:40:10,736 before about the portion of Woods Avenue near Miller 193 03:40:10,736 --> 03:40:14,122 that was partially completed but we want to turn that 194 03:40:14,122 --> 03:40:15,876 into a complete street so we have 195 03:40:15,876 --> 03:40:19,332 been able to acquire some right of way from the business owner 196 03:40:19,332 --> 03:40:22,900 there and we are currently working with the City of Orlando 197 03:40:22,900 --> 03:40:28,735 on the drainage so instead of it being an open drainage ditch, 198 03:40:28,735 --> 03:40:31,396 it's going to be closed drainage so the planning is 199 03:40:31,396 --> 03:40:33,716 being done for that. 200 03:40:33,716 --> 03:40:38,136 We also have the actual construction of the roadway. 201 03:40:38,136 --> 03:40:42,829 So we are starting to set funds aside 202 03:40:42,829 --> 03:40:45,229 as construction costs increase. 203 03:40:45,996 --> 03:40:50,890 Started off as maybe $700,000 is probably going to be roughly $2 204 03:40:50,890 --> 03:40:54,449 million when we get there but we would just set aside and we will 205 03:40:54,449 --> 03:40:57,449 just phase the funding in . 206 03:40:59,360 --> 03:41:02,908 Roadway maintenance of OBT from I-4 to colonial is ongoing. 207 03:41:02,908 --> 03:41:07,708 We have a $350,000 contract with the maintenance crew. 208 03:41:08,127 --> 03:41:13,270 They do a very good job at keeping the trash cans empty, 209 03:41:13,270 --> 03:41:19,270 keeping the rubbish off of the roadway trimming the grass 210 03:41:20,171 --> 03:41:24,196 and keeping the trees -- sometimes there may be trees 211 03:41:24,196 --> 03:41:26,376 from other properties that hang over the sidewalk. 212 03:41:26,376 --> 03:41:32,976 Keeping the crack weeds -- the weeds in the sidewalk cracks . 213 03:41:34,529 --> 03:41:36,372 Cleaning the trash cans and bus shelters. 214 03:41:36,372 --> 03:41:37,868 Those types of things. 215 03:41:37,868 --> 03:41:41,560 So while we aren't able to make a whole lot of improvements 216 03:41:41,560 --> 03:41:45,856 and we aren't able to install landscaping again, 217 03:41:51,774 --> 03:41:54,796 it really does go a long way with cleaning the area keeping 218 03:41:54,796 --> 03:41:57,402 the area tidy and nice and we have seen other business owners 219 03:41:57,402 --> 03:42:03,402 come out and start to make improvements on their property . 220 03:42:04,442 --> 03:42:08,356 Just be inspired by it looking cleaner and seeing 221 03:42:08,356 --> 03:42:10,604 that there is investment into their community 222 03:42:10,604 --> 03:42:13,890 and it causes them to kind of step up. 223 03:42:13,890 --> 03:42:17,889 We have a sidewalk maintenance and repair A $50,000 224 03:42:19,276 --> 03:42:23,160 because sidewalks are an ongoing issue for us sometimes. 225 03:42:23,160 --> 03:42:24,416 They raise. 226 03:42:24,416 --> 03:42:26,982 They crack permit different things 227 03:42:26,982 --> 03:42:28,649 and we need to have some money set aside 228 03:42:28,649 --> 03:42:31,360 so we can address those as quickly as possible 229 03:42:31,360 --> 03:42:34,462 to avoid any kind of safety issues. 230 03:42:34,462 --> 03:42:37,476 Street light maintenance permit the maintenance along that 231 03:42:37,476 --> 03:42:44,676 corridor along the CRA is maintained by oh you see and we 232 03:42:48,130 --> 03:42:53,413 pay them about $13,000 to be then On our behalf. 233 03:43:02,116 --> 03:43:04,876 We have the mural program. 234 03:43:04,876 --> 03:43:06,916 We are working with Orange County staff 235 03:43:06,916 --> 03:43:10,916 and we understand there is a process. 236 03:43:10,916 --> 03:43:15,156 We are working on agreements with the artists about three 237 03:43:15,156 --> 03:43:17,156 locations. 238 03:43:25,276 --> 03:43:28,486 We recently learned we are going to be partnering with Westlake 239 03:43:28,486 --> 03:43:31,500 District because they have a mural program so we learned 240 03:43:31,500 --> 03:43:35,676 yesterday how we could leverage so we could expand the program 241 03:43:35,676 --> 03:43:42,876 and it really is to beautify the area and encourage the residents 242 03:43:43,576 --> 03:43:51,376 and encourage people to come and have a reason to come to OBT 243 03:43:58,396 --> 03:44:02,750 Because unfortunately OBT still does struggle with a stigma. 244 03:44:02,750 --> 03:44:05,711 With the mural program it may give an opportunity 245 03:44:05,711 --> 03:44:10,413 and then we can create you know hey come to OBT 246 03:44:10,413 --> 03:44:15,813 and see all the murals we have here program. 247 03:44:19,996 --> 03:44:24,196 It can be a destination of sorts. 248 03:44:24,716 --> 03:44:28,962 Then the hardscape program looking at a way we 249 03:44:28,962 --> 03:44:35,562 can beautify our buildings and bring some color to the area. 250 03:44:40,156 --> 03:44:43,756 Our residential development projects total $4.2 million. 251 03:44:45,956 --> 03:44:49,556 We have a potential multifamily housing 252 03:44:49,902 --> 03:44:53,696 project that has been proposed to the Development Board. 253 03:44:53,696 --> 03:44:56,960 We are reviewing that. 254 03:44:58,556 --> 03:45:01,340 They have a financial gap and they are 255 03:45:01,340 --> 03:45:04,340 requesting that we assist them. 256 03:45:05,360 --> 03:45:09,636 As you know the job of a CRA is to remove slum and blight. 257 03:45:09,636 --> 03:45:11,392 This is the former parliament property 258 03:45:11,392 --> 03:45:13,356 that has been vacant for some time now 259 03:45:13,356 --> 03:45:16,164 and I know we've had discussions. 260 03:45:16,164 --> 03:45:18,601 We would like to see something happen. 261 03:45:18,601 --> 03:45:24,100 This will be the largest project for the CRA 262 03:45:27,276 --> 03:45:33,876 if the board decides to approve an incentive For this project. 263 03:45:49,996 --> 03:45:55,276 We have money set aside for marketing and communication. 264 03:45:55,276 --> 03:45:58,636 We need to market the CRA. 265 03:45:58,636 --> 03:46:01,669 People don't understand what the CRA is. 266 03:46:01,669 --> 03:46:04,822 Time and time again on a state level 267 03:46:04,822 --> 03:46:09,622 they don't think CRAs are being utilized properly. 268 03:46:11,636 --> 03:46:17,464 We need to show them what we are really doing . 269 03:46:17,464 --> 03:46:19,836 We are dealing with roadway improvements. 270 03:46:19,836 --> 03:46:20,596 Lighting. 271 03:46:20,596 --> 03:46:22,596 Safety issues. 272 03:46:22,832 --> 03:46:24,309 Renovations. 273 03:46:24,309 --> 03:46:28,182 There is so much that we are doing 274 03:46:28,182 --> 03:46:29,796 and we need to be able to get that 275 03:46:29,796 --> 03:46:31,556 out and let the community know. 276 03:46:31,556 --> 03:46:36,356 We have money set aside for crime prevention. 277 03:46:42,556 --> 03:46:44,956 We have 368,000 towards administration. 278 03:46:57,676 --> 03:47:01,276 So our subtotal of planned expenditures 279 03:47:01,476 --> 03:47:04,680 are a little over $7 million. 280 03:47:04,680 --> 03:47:08,356 We continue to maintain future capital outlay for any 281 03:47:08,356 --> 03:47:14,840 additional projects that will come on and the total proposed 282 03:47:14,840 --> 03:47:17,840 funding for the year is $8,306,175. 283 03:47:29,716 --> 03:47:33,119 Here is a categorization of the same numbers we just 284 03:47:33,119 --> 03:47:35,244 went through breaking them down into the categories 285 03:47:35,244 --> 03:47:37,644 we used with OMB. 286 03:49:40,162 --> 03:49:46,162 >> How long have you been with the OBT cra now? 287 03:50:11,239 --> 03:50:13,639 >> Next month is 35 years. 288 03:50:15,295 --> 03:50:16,962 >> She's been with them a long time now. 289 03:50:16,962 --> 03:50:16,965 Since the inception? 290 03:50:16,965 --> 03:50:16,971 >> Not quite since the inception. 291 03:50:16,971 --> 03:50:16,980 >> And so with the administration costs how many 292 03:50:16,980 --> 03:50:16,984 employees do you have? 293 03:50:16,984 --> 03:50:16,987 There are four. 294 03:50:16,987 --> 03:50:16,997 And the building that you all work out of you 295 03:50:16,997 --> 03:50:17,747 own that building? 296 03:50:17,747 --> 03:50:19,747 >> We lease. 297 03:50:55,756 --> 03:50:56,256 >> Okay. 298 03:50:56,256 --> 03:50:56,263 I'm going to go to Commissioner Wilson 299 03:50:56,263 --> 03:50:56,272 and she will be followed by Commissioner Gomes Cordeiro 300 03:50:56,272 --> 03:50:56,275 and Commissioner Scott. 301 03:50:56,275 --> 03:50:56,280 >> Thank you so much. 302 03:50:56,280 --> 03:50:56,287 I agree with you about CRAs being 303 03:50:56,287 --> 03:50:56,296 something that is a confusing topic to the public. 304 03:50:56,296 --> 03:50:56,302 Understanding your experience in the community 305 03:50:56,302 --> 03:50:56,316 you are working in what would be the best way for us to try 306 03:50:56,316 --> 03:50:58,774 to make sure we are describing it in educating and inviting 307 03:50:58,774 --> 03:51:04,174 people to the conversation about the function of CRAs? 308 03:51:48,291 --> 03:51:50,708 >> In the part of the plan where we have worked with local 309 03:51:50,708 --> 03:51:50,716 businesses we did create little commercials and snapshots. 310 03:51:50,716 --> 03:51:50,723 We are using those on social media. 311 03:51:50,723 --> 03:51:50,732 We are going to put those all on YouTube. 312 03:51:50,732 --> 03:51:50,740 Some of the younger folks have told me 313 03:51:50,740 --> 03:51:50,744 all about Geotag dropping. 314 03:51:50,744 --> 03:51:50,756 I was still learning but it will help people who are obviously 315 03:51:50,756 --> 03:51:50,764 going to events in the area and targeting 316 03:51:50,764 --> 03:51:50,776 those people at that time to let them know I don't you 317 03:51:50,776 --> 03:51:50,784 stop at the lager house after an event 318 03:51:50,784 --> 03:51:50,793 or stop by Sweetie's for a little ice cream 319 03:51:50,793 --> 03:51:50,800 after this event that you currently have. 320 03:51:50,800 --> 03:51:52,550 Between YouTube and social media and we've 321 03:51:52,550 --> 03:51:57,350 even talked about maybe a billboard or so. 322 03:56:47,794 --> 03:56:51,114 They have more support and are bringing more volunteer support 323 03:56:51,114 --> 03:56:52,954 than our five men staff can provide 324 03:56:52,954 --> 03:56:55,106 so they are using relationships with people 325 03:56:55,106 --> 03:57:01,106 who are very well grounded and connected in that community. 326 03:57:03,531 --> 03:57:04,310 >> Awesome. 327 03:57:04,310 --> 03:57:06,194 I have to say that I like the missing middle 328 03:57:06,194 --> 03:57:07,474 project that you have. 329 03:57:07,474 --> 03:57:08,340 Very good. 330 03:57:08,340 --> 03:57:13,434 And then my other question is, in slide number 17, 331 03:57:14,914 --> 03:57:19,114 you mentioned the mural program and I 332 03:57:19,614 --> 03:57:26,214 like what you Said about letting others now what CRA is. 333 03:57:29,334 --> 03:57:32,934 Where are you doing this project? 334 03:57:33,234 --> 03:57:37,434 >> We have one at 28th and Michigan. 335 03:57:37,914 --> 03:57:45,714 It is a mechanic shop and so it is one wall facing there. 336 03:57:47,110 --> 03:57:50,674 I think one of the more exciting ones is -- 337 03:57:50,674 --> 03:57:52,414 I can't remember the actual address 338 03:57:52,414 --> 03:57:56,340 but there is a driving school and they 339 03:57:56,340 --> 03:57:58,934 have two walls that kind of have a V shape 340 03:57:58,934 --> 03:58:02,540 and the V kind of points toward OBT 341 03:58:02,540 --> 03:58:04,789 so we will be able to utilize two walls 342 03:58:04,789 --> 03:58:07,738 and we are hoping to make something very impactful there. 343 03:58:07,738 --> 03:58:12,538 That driving school I think is 160 Driving Academy. 344 03:58:12,914 --> 03:58:18,914 What they do there is they train 18 wheelers to drive. 345 03:58:19,847 --> 03:58:22,847 They use that whole interior. 346 03:58:23,740 --> 03:58:25,562 They take them out on the road eventually 347 03:58:25,562 --> 03:58:28,687 but they use that interior and they have a very large space 348 03:58:28,687 --> 03:58:32,127 and they are super excited about having something very 349 03:58:32,127 --> 03:58:35,799 eye catching and we know about it is not 350 03:58:35,799 --> 03:58:37,454 going to be signage for them. 351 03:58:37,454 --> 03:58:39,794 Is going to be something that is beautiful 352 03:58:39,794 --> 03:58:42,282 and something that either resembles 353 03:58:42,282 --> 03:58:48,247 the history of OBT, orange County or something like that. 354 03:58:48,247 --> 03:58:51,479 But we don't want anything graffiti looking. 355 03:58:51,479 --> 03:58:55,790 We want high level, beautiful murals 356 03:58:55,610 --> 03:58:59,840 because again out there it is pretty much gray on gray. 357 03:58:59,840 --> 03:58:59,984 Gray road. 358 03:58:59,984 --> 03:59:01,984 Gray concrete. 359 03:59:02,687 --> 03:59:03,340 >> Awesome. 360 03:59:03,340 --> 03:59:03,840 Yes. 361 03:59:03,840 --> 03:59:08,650 Okay and my last question is on the other slide, which 362 03:59:08,650 --> 03:59:12,250 is the proposed project, I wanted 363 03:59:13,480 --> 03:59:17,348 to ask you on the administration Line 364 03:59:17,348 --> 03:59:22,450 368 that includes the staff and leasing of your renting 365 03:59:22,450 --> 03:59:23,114 your office? 366 03:59:23,114 --> 03:59:26,540 It does include it in this? 367 03:59:26,540 --> 03:59:28,540 Okay. 368 03:59:28,927 --> 03:59:32,834 >> Our administrative budget is made up of two different 369 03:59:32,834 --> 03:59:37,634 resources so CRA as well as our MSTU. 370 03:59:38,146 --> 03:59:42,346 That's not our complete budget but CRA 371 03:59:42,450 --> 03:59:44,734 does pay the largest portion. 372 03:59:44,734 --> 03:59:45,291 >> Got it. 373 03:59:45,291 --> 03:59:47,691 Thank you so much. 374 03:59:49,466 --> 03:59:51,466 >> Commissioner Scott. 375 03:59:51,962 --> 03:59:53,714 >> Thank you for the presentation. 376 03:59:53,714 --> 03:59:55,538 I don't have any questions. 377 03:59:55,538 --> 03:59:59,538 Just some points to highlight for the board. 378 03:59:59,538 --> 04:00:03,974 The grants that we've done over the past year or so 379 04:00:03,974 --> 04:00:05,794 have really allowed these small businesses 380 04:00:05,794 --> 04:00:07,834 in and around the area to grow. 381 04:00:07,834 --> 04:00:10,361 Some of them were home based businesses. 382 04:00:10,361 --> 04:00:12,694 Some of them had challenges that they could not overcome 383 04:00:12,694 --> 04:00:18,398 and so we have seen in the instance of Orlando Brewery, 384 04:00:18,398 --> 04:00:21,154 City Deli right across the street from Orlando Police 385 04:00:21,154 --> 04:00:23,554 Department, Darkmaster bringing pallets 386 04:00:25,334 --> 04:00:26,782 just the change in their business 387 04:00:26,782 --> 04:00:28,891 and the ability to contribute to the community 388 04:00:28,891 --> 04:00:31,474 and sometime soon I think we are still working on the timeline 389 04:00:31,474 --> 04:00:33,944 because we went for some state funding 390 04:00:33,944 --> 04:00:35,594 with the Desire Foundation. 391 04:00:35,594 --> 04:00:39,794 You will see a micro grocery that 392 04:00:39,986 --> 04:00:43,274 will help address some of the food insecurities and the food 393 04:00:43,274 --> 04:00:44,780 desert in and around the community. 394 04:00:44,780 --> 04:00:49,186 The Desire Foundation right there across from the Health 395 04:00:49,186 --> 04:00:53,986 department and the birth certificate office of Vital 396 04:00:56,774 --> 04:00:59,634 statistics does usually monthly -- 397 04:00:59,634 --> 04:01:02,314 I can't describe it as a food drive 398 04:01:02,314 --> 04:01:04,114 because there is so much more. 399 04:01:04,114 --> 04:01:04,954 There is clothes. 400 04:01:04,954 --> 04:01:05,994 There is Pampers. 401 04:01:05,994 --> 04:01:08,114 There is air freshener. 402 04:01:08,114 --> 04:01:09,826 Everything you need. 403 04:01:09,826 --> 04:01:11,477 Haircuts to help these communities 404 04:01:11,477 --> 04:01:15,878 and so it's been a great joy working with OBT next CRA 405 04:01:15,878 --> 04:01:18,680 and we've been able to do some good and amazing things 406 04:01:18,680 --> 04:01:21,340 and as she shared today when you look at the housing 407 04:01:21,340 --> 04:01:24,375 opportunities that we'll be able to provide it's just amazing. 408 04:01:24,375 --> 04:01:28,287 Like I said, we've had our challenges 409 04:01:28,287 --> 04:01:30,454 trying to figure out what is the best need for those 410 04:01:30,454 --> 04:01:33,664 in and around the community and it has been phenomenal. 411 04:01:33,664 --> 04:01:37,980 So Vanessa, I appreciate you and your team. 412 04:01:37,980 --> 04:01:39,269 I have no questions. 413 04:01:39,269 --> 04:01:41,885 We talked quite frequently so thank you for the work you 414 04:01:41,885 --> 04:01:44,285 and your team do. 415 04:01:47,820 --> 04:01:48,492 >> Commissioner Semrad. 416 04:01:48,492 --> 04:01:49,849 >> Thank you. 417 04:01:49,849 --> 04:01:51,106 Thank you Vanessa. 418 04:01:51,106 --> 04:01:54,160 You are only involved with this CRA right? 419 04:01:54,160 --> 04:01:56,634 So I tried to look up quickly and I 420 04:01:56,634 --> 04:02:00,854 think we have a CRA for Orlando Eatonville Winter Park alpaca 421 04:02:00,854 --> 04:02:03,254 Winter garden Oakland Maitland. 422 04:02:03,491 --> 04:02:05,891 Did I miss any? 423 04:02:06,122 --> 04:02:09,294 High drive and Oakland is not? 424 04:02:09,294 --> 04:02:09,794 Okay. 425 04:02:09,794 --> 04:02:12,571 So we have multiple that go across the county 426 04:02:12,571 --> 04:02:14,714 and I think you are right. 427 04:02:14,714 --> 04:02:17,174 Advertising the CRA is difficult to do 428 04:02:17,174 --> 04:02:21,626 because it has concepts that we don't normally 429 04:02:21,626 --> 04:02:24,250 talk about on a regular day so therefore 430 04:02:24,250 --> 04:02:28,634 into people so from what I understand from a is that when 431 04:02:28,634 --> 04:02:32,900 people agree to come in to one it basically freezes 432 04:02:32,900 --> 04:02:33,954 the taxable base value right? 433 04:02:33,954 --> 04:02:39,894 So it freezes it there and then any incremental increase goes 434 04:02:39,894 --> 04:02:42,294 into paying for improvements? 435 04:02:43,514 --> 04:02:46,514 >> Within that same boundary area. 436 04:02:47,119 --> 04:02:48,744 >> And so it can be affordable housing. 437 04:02:48,744 --> 04:02:50,184 It can be streetscapes. 438 04:02:50,184 --> 04:02:52,900 It can be infrastructure. 439 04:02:52,900 --> 04:02:54,666 It can be all sorts of great aspects 440 04:02:54,666 --> 04:02:58,266 that make our community stronger, more 441 04:02:58,398 --> 04:02:59,690 resilient and more flourishing. 442 04:02:59,690 --> 04:03:05,834 So how much of your CRA is funded by property taxes? 443 04:03:05,834 --> 04:03:07,834 Do you know? 444 04:03:09,794 --> 04:03:12,838 That's what I'm trying to get. 445 04:03:12,838 --> 04:03:13,338 Yes. 446 04:03:13,338 --> 04:03:16,338 It's not a trick question. 447 04:03:19,358 --> 04:03:22,226 >> So property taxes is the revenue source for CRAs. 448 04:03:22,226 --> 04:03:25,106 Are you asking me that residential question 449 04:03:25,106 --> 04:03:28,106 again or just in general? 450 04:03:28,354 --> 04:03:30,226 >> None of this is a trick question. 451 04:03:30,226 --> 04:03:32,554 Do you by chance know how much is residential 452 04:03:32,554 --> 04:03:34,874 and how much is commercial in your area? 453 04:03:34,874 --> 04:03:36,874 >> I do not. 454 04:03:37,594 --> 04:03:39,883 >> Okay but both are impacted because with residential 455 04:03:39,883 --> 04:03:44,434 and with our commercial there is a cap -- 456 04:03:44,434 --> 04:03:47,234 >> We definitely have more commercial that comes in. 457 04:03:47,234 --> 04:03:51,498 What we have noticed is a continued increase 458 04:03:51,498 --> 04:03:55,914 comes a lot from the warehousing in that area. 459 04:03:55,914 --> 04:03:58,894 >> And so if we lose that taxable income, 460 04:03:58,894 --> 04:04:03,245 what happens to your CRA and all the projects like the affordable 461 04:04:03,245 --> 04:04:05,370 housing and the infrastructure and the streetscapes 462 04:04:05,370 --> 04:04:08,170 and everything that goes into redeveloping this area 463 04:04:08,170 --> 04:04:12,714 to a place that people are proud to live in and contribute to? 464 04:04:12,714 --> 04:04:15,854 >> Like everyone else we will have cutbacks but fortunately we 465 04:04:15,854 --> 04:04:20,354 are able to apply sometimes for state funding for different 466 04:04:20,354 --> 04:04:26,634 areas, so we will seek funding from wherever we can but we are 467 04:04:26,634 --> 04:04:32,740 prepared to make some cutbacks if we have to on maybe projects 468 04:04:32,740 --> 04:04:33,279 going forward. 469 04:04:33,279 --> 04:04:37,474 We may not be able to reach double our reach might not 470 04:04:37,474 --> 04:04:41,687 be as far as we would like it to be before 2049. 471 04:04:41,687 --> 04:04:44,620 >> I just also really want to say that when we talk about 472 04:04:44,620 --> 04:04:50,740 a CRA in certain areas they're done to redevelop those areas 473 04:04:50,740 --> 04:04:53,194 because they need that redevelopment and that taxable 474 04:04:53,194 --> 04:04:59,656 value of those properties is -- it could be less a winter park 475 04:04:59,656 --> 04:05:02,642 CRA I'm trying to say has a higher taxable value on property 476 04:05:02,642 --> 04:05:07,474 so when the property tax reform hits we are going to see that 477 04:05:07,474 --> 04:05:11,690 those CRAs still have a taxable base but they are going to be 478 04:05:11,690 --> 04:05:13,506 others that are almost depleted to nothing and those are 479 04:05:13,506 --> 04:05:16,720 our more vulnerable communities so we begin to talk about safety 480 04:05:16,720 --> 04:05:17,220 issues. 481 04:05:17,220 --> 04:05:19,554 We begin to talk about flooding issues. 482 04:05:19,554 --> 04:05:23,740 We get to talk about roads that don't work any longer so I'm 483 04:05:23,740 --> 04:05:26,405 concerned about the CRAs and their way to fund 484 04:05:26,405 --> 04:05:27,966 and I think it's also just important 485 04:05:27,966 --> 04:05:31,290 to note that most of your projects 486 04:05:31,290 --> 04:05:33,434 are done through a bonding system. 487 04:05:33,434 --> 04:05:33,994 Correct? 488 04:05:33,994 --> 04:05:40,274 When you do projects you use >> We have not bonded anything. 489 04:05:40,274 --> 04:05:41,874 >> You do no bonds? 490 04:05:41,874 --> 04:05:44,890 That is good news because long term bonding doesn't impact it 491 04:05:44,890 --> 04:05:46,922 but it still impacts you incredibly 492 04:05:46,922 --> 04:05:50,934 in the short and mid-term where you lose a huge chunk of revenue 493 04:05:50,934 --> 04:05:54,940 that is used to directly improve residents quality of life. 494 04:05:54,940 --> 04:05:56,640 >> It very well could. 495 04:05:56,640 --> 04:06:02,714 I think we are all just kind of waiting fingers crossed to see 496 04:06:02,714 --> 04:06:04,980 what the residents decide. 497 04:06:04,980 --> 04:06:07,534 >> I'm trying to get from you because you are an expert 498 04:06:07,534 --> 04:06:10,594 in the CRA if there is one fact I could carry into the community 499 04:06:10,594 --> 04:06:14,200 and say if this passes this is how it impacts you the most what 500 04:06:14,200 --> 04:06:18,260 would you say to the people of the CRA that you represent? 501 04:06:18,260 --> 04:06:23,660 >> For our CRA residents, because if this is passed 502 04:06:23,841 --> 04:06:26,134 it's not going to just have an impact on CRA. 503 04:06:26,134 --> 04:06:29,150 It's going to have an impact on all of us countywide. 504 04:06:29,150 --> 04:06:31,922 The services are going to be needed 505 04:06:31,922 --> 04:06:34,534 and we are going to pay for it one way or another 506 04:06:34,534 --> 04:06:38,122 so if it is not through the property tax, 507 04:06:38,122 --> 04:06:44,123 it's still going to have to be taken care of so again, 508 04:06:44,123 --> 04:06:47,554 yes there are a lot of CRAs but I will tell you 509 04:06:47,554 --> 04:06:52,394 the thing about the OBTCRA is that we are true to what 510 04:06:52,394 --> 04:06:54,200 CRAs were created to do. 511 04:06:54,200 --> 04:06:55,894 To eliminate slum and blight. 512 04:06:55,894 --> 04:07:01,805 We have a lot of slum and blight and like I said, 513 04:07:01,805 --> 04:07:07,480 the first 30 years I have seen our CRA tank twice 514 04:07:07,480 --> 04:07:09,480 below the baseline. 515 04:07:09,967 --> 04:07:11,927 So we adapt. 516 04:07:11,927 --> 04:07:19,727 We do what we can with what we have and like I said, 517 04:07:20,334 --> 04:07:23,314 we will utilize other opportunities. 518 04:07:23,314 --> 04:07:26,202 And we are the only CRA in the state still 519 04:07:26,202 --> 04:07:30,194 that is split between two different municipalities. 520 04:07:30,194 --> 04:07:34,170 All those other CRAs that you referred to, 521 04:07:34,170 --> 04:07:37,466 they are within different cities and so 522 04:07:37,466 --> 04:07:40,914 how those cities will deal with it is one thing. 523 04:07:40,914 --> 04:07:44,327 >> So what I just heard you say is that if this property tax 524 04:07:44,327 --> 04:07:48,746 reform passes and CR is like yours are impacted, 525 04:07:48,746 --> 04:07:52,104 we can expect to see in our community more slum and blight. 526 04:07:52,104 --> 04:07:54,104 Is that correct? 527 04:07:54,682 --> 04:07:55,974 >> That would be my assumption. 528 04:07:55,974 --> 04:08:02,706 If we are not able to directly do what we've continued to do, 529 04:08:02,706 --> 04:08:04,706 we will revert . 530 04:08:08,625 --> 04:08:11,454 And opt and the mayor has been here. 531 04:08:11,454 --> 04:08:13,464 I've known him the whole time I've been here 532 04:08:13,464 --> 04:08:16,214 and he can tell you we know what OBT was before. 533 04:08:16,214 --> 04:08:18,839 It may not be where we want it to be 534 04:08:18,839 --> 04:08:20,854 but it is a whole lot better than it was before 535 04:08:20,854 --> 04:08:23,234 and I would hate to see and I think 536 04:08:23,234 --> 04:08:26,234 it would be very tragic for us to rewind 537 04:08:26,234 --> 04:08:29,260 on some of those improvements that have been made 538 04:08:29,260 --> 04:08:32,307 and the investments that have been made so I think it's 539 04:08:32,307 --> 04:08:37,367 important that the constituents know not just within the CRA 540 04:08:37,367 --> 04:08:43,514 area but that will impact us all over as a community. 541 04:08:43,514 --> 04:08:48,340 >> Absolutely and to my colleagues on the board, 542 04:08:48,340 --> 04:08:53,314 we all know tourism destinations that can be labeled with slum 543 04:08:53,314 --> 04:08:55,620 and blight don't sell on an international marketplace 544 04:08:55,620 --> 04:08:58,314 and across the country so I think that is something to be 545 04:08:58,314 --> 04:09:04,104 conscious of, that the less of CRAs and funding can also impact 546 04:09:04,104 --> 04:09:05,514 our local economy. 547 04:09:05,514 --> 04:09:10,314 Thank you very much for all you do. 548 04:09:10,601 --> 04:09:11,900 >> Commissioner Uribe. 549 04:09:11,900 --> 04:09:12,745 >> Hey there. 550 04:09:12,745 --> 04:09:17,545 I just had a few follow up questions. 551 04:09:17,754 --> 04:09:22,554 Why are we trying to pursue tourist development 552 04:09:25,904 --> 04:09:29,370 tax (Indistinct) and also have you 553 04:09:29,370 --> 04:09:31,239 all pursued any of the Vision Zero? 554 04:09:31,239 --> 04:09:33,889 I mean I live off of OBT so I travel all the time 555 04:09:33,889 --> 04:09:36,100 and I see how bad the sidewalks are. 556 04:09:36,100 --> 04:09:38,694 I've seen people in wheelchairs get stuck. 557 04:09:38,694 --> 04:09:44,694 Have we actively pursued any Vision Zero funding from DOT? 558 04:09:52,326 --> 04:09:52,826 >> No. 559 04:09:52,826 --> 04:09:54,409 They do allocate a portion to us and I 560 04:09:54,409 --> 04:10:01,900 have met with FDOT and FDOT has continued to add things 561 04:10:02,714 --> 04:10:05,834 in the area and I have continued to challenge and look 562 04:10:05,834 --> 04:10:08,431 at their budget because we are taking on a little more. 563 04:10:08,431 --> 04:10:10,140 Every time they add more we are taking 564 04:10:10,140 --> 04:10:14,634 on more to maintain so they are reviewing their budgets. 565 04:10:14,634 --> 04:10:16,922 >> Have we pursued any actual grants because I know 566 04:10:16,922 --> 04:10:19,874 there's grants out there for Vision Zero and we know that OBT 567 04:10:19,874 --> 04:10:25,274 south of I-4 has gotten significant funding from dot. 568 04:10:25,314 --> 04:10:27,154 I mean you've got crosswalks. 569 04:10:27,154 --> 04:10:28,254 Lighted crosswalks. 570 04:10:28,254 --> 04:10:30,340 Lights to stop people. 571 04:10:30,340 --> 04:10:31,540 Who are you? 572 04:10:31,540 --> 04:10:32,594 I would like to help with this so 573 04:10:32,594 --> 04:10:37,394 knowing that I serve on the DOT board 574 04:10:38,353 --> 04:10:42,682 I would like to help because you can't help but notice 575 04:10:42,682 --> 04:10:45,134 the influx of more pedestrian walkers 576 04:10:45,134 --> 04:10:47,807 north of I-4 and the fact that you can't even 577 04:10:47,807 --> 04:10:49,658 safely go on the sidewalk in that area 578 04:10:49,658 --> 04:10:55,290 knowing we have an active CRA, have we ever leveraged that? 579 04:10:55,290 --> 04:10:57,354 Because with all these sidewalk fundings -- 580 04:10:57,354 --> 04:11:00,314 we were putting sidewalks where people didn't even want 581 04:11:00,314 --> 04:11:02,668 sidewalks yet we can't fix your sidewalks. 582 04:11:02,668 --> 04:11:05,668 It just doesn't make sense. 583 04:11:08,314 --> 04:11:11,460 >> If you are talking within the CRA because it's state highway, 584 04:11:11,460 --> 04:11:15,860 the state did come in and make some -- 585 04:11:15,860 --> 04:11:19,600 they have installed some sidewalks within the CRA area. 586 04:11:19,600 --> 04:11:22,862 One of the issues within see a area is because the property 587 04:11:22,862 --> 04:11:26,499 lines are so close to the road where there is not a lot of room 588 04:11:26,499 --> 04:11:29,514 to expand the sidewalks or really do 589 04:11:29,514 --> 04:11:32,874 the types of improvements that are needed to those sidewalks 590 04:11:32,874 --> 04:11:38,874 but in terms of replacing them, they have replaced some. 591 04:11:39,174 --> 04:11:40,514 We have replaced some. 592 04:11:40,514 --> 04:11:44,887 We have added some decorative measures along the CRA. 593 04:11:44,887 --> 04:11:48,487 Sidewalks but the CRA has definite 594 04:11:48,594 --> 04:11:54,534 in terms of land that kind of impedes upon the sidewalks 595 04:11:54,534 --> 04:11:55,251 there. 596 04:11:55,251 --> 04:11:56,709 >> I'm not talking about expanding. 597 04:11:56,709 --> 04:11:59,434 I'm just talking about the sidewalks you have right now. 598 04:11:59,434 --> 04:12:01,980 The striping on the street. 599 04:12:01,980 --> 04:12:03,860 Just basic stuff that is done all over the state of Florida. 600 04:12:03,860 --> 04:12:07,260 Why is it not being done north of I-4? 601 04:12:07,260 --> 04:12:08,694 I would like to know. 602 04:12:08,694 --> 04:12:12,176 I'm going to host Secretary Purdue August here in Orlando 603 04:12:12,176 --> 04:12:14,907 and we have a meeting coming up July 30th. 604 04:12:14,907 --> 04:12:17,274 I would like to take this request directly 605 04:12:17,274 --> 04:12:22,514 to Secretary Tyler because that just doesn't make any sense. 606 04:12:22,514 --> 04:12:24,220 I see too many people walking. 607 04:12:24,220 --> 04:12:26,140 I see too many kids. 608 04:12:26,140 --> 04:12:27,340 Wheelchairs. 609 04:12:27,340 --> 04:12:29,224 You name it and it doesn't make any sense. 610 04:12:29,224 --> 04:12:33,594 It just seems like a different world once you go under I-4. 611 04:12:33,594 --> 04:12:35,454 >> Yeah. 612 04:12:35,454 --> 04:12:40,564 FDOT did last year make improvements to the sidewalks. 613 04:12:40,564 --> 04:12:42,378 They refreshed the crosswalks. 614 04:12:42,378 --> 04:12:45,704 So yeah but it would be interesting 615 04:12:45,704 --> 04:12:47,914 and please include me. 616 04:12:47,914 --> 04:12:50,578 >> If you could please follow up with my office. 617 04:12:50,578 --> 04:12:52,578 Thanks. 618 04:12:55,572 --> 04:12:56,114 >> Certainly. 619 04:12:56,114 --> 04:12:58,114 >> All right. 620 04:12:59,114 --> 04:13:02,114 You've got something else, Commissioner? 621 04:13:03,615 --> 04:13:04,115 Okay. 622 04:13:04,115 --> 04:13:05,934 That was the final question. 623 04:13:05,934 --> 04:13:12,114 We do have an action item and we do see it before us at this time 624 04:13:12,114 --> 04:13:16,990 and that Commissioner Scott serves on the CRA board. 625 04:13:16,990 --> 04:13:21,190 We will entertain a motion from him. 626 04:13:21,994 --> 04:13:23,361 >> Second Wilson. 627 04:13:23,361 --> 04:13:24,736 >> We have a motion and a second. 628 04:13:24,736 --> 04:13:30,736 All in favor let it be known by saying aye. 629 04:13:32,206 --> 04:13:34,168 Opposed, no. 630 04:13:34,168 --> 04:13:37,768 Motion passes and it is unanimous. 631 04:13:39,474 --> 04:13:40,560 >> Thank you. 632 04:13:40,560 --> 04:13:41,588 For all those I won't be able to see you 633 04:13:41,588 --> 04:13:43,714 next time around I wish you all the best in mayor 634 04:13:43,714 --> 04:13:46,840 I've appreciated working with you all these years through all 635 04:13:46,840 --> 04:13:48,434 the different things we've done and one thing I can say 636 04:13:48,434 --> 04:13:50,250 and I just want to say this real quick. 637 04:13:50,250 --> 04:13:52,474 Has always remained the same. 638 04:13:52,474 --> 04:13:54,474 He is accessible. 639 04:13:54,634 --> 04:13:58,234 Always professional, kind and I really 640 04:13:59,454 --> 04:14:00,668 appreciate working with you. 641 04:14:00,668 --> 04:14:04,868 I have in my prayers with you. 642 04:14:10,394 --> 04:14:13,644 Going back to really being a street 643 04:14:13,644 --> 04:14:15,450 cop working narcotics and everything else 644 04:14:15,450 --> 04:14:16,754 and all those other things. 645 04:14:16,754 --> 04:14:19,114 It's come a long way. 646 04:14:19,114 --> 04:14:22,337 With that, thank you all for your presence. 647 04:14:22,337 --> 04:14:24,420 We're going to move to the next item on the agenda 648 04:14:24,420 --> 04:14:26,420 for this afternoon. 649 04:14:34,874 --> 04:14:39,474 We will now adjourn as the Orange County Community 650 04:14:39,474 --> 04:14:41,874 Redevelopment Agency and reconvene 651 04:14:42,100 --> 04:14:46,810 or convene as Orange County International Drive community 652 04:14:47,794 --> 04:14:50,194 Redevelopment Agency governing board 653 04:14:53,594 --> 04:14:57,194 and miss Krista Tereshinski assistant project 654 04:14:57,414 --> 04:14:58,874 manager for neighborhood services 655 04:14:58,874 --> 04:15:01,314 is going to lead us off this morning. 656 04:15:01,314 --> 04:15:03,340 Welcome. 657 04:15:03,340 --> 04:15:03,994 >> Thank you mayor. 658 04:15:03,994 --> 04:15:05,847 You said that wonderfully. 659 04:15:05,847 --> 04:15:10,780 I am here to present the international Drive Community 660 04:15:10,780 --> 04:15:12,780 Redevelopment Agency. 661 04:15:14,154 --> 04:15:16,914 Fiscal year budget work session. 662 04:15:16,914 --> 04:15:19,620 Today's presentation will provide a background summary. 663 04:15:19,620 --> 04:15:22,122 The redevelopment area and plan. 664 04:15:22,122 --> 04:15:26,322 The program highlights the proposed fiscal year 2026 27 665 04:15:29,770 --> 04:15:31,770 Budget Year Overview. 666 04:15:33,418 --> 04:15:38,360 The CRA was completed in 1998 for a terms 30 years. 667 04:15:38,360 --> 04:15:41,594 The original focus was improving transportation light 668 04:15:41,594 --> 04:15:46,800 throughout the I-drive community but in 2021 the CRA plan 669 04:15:46,800 --> 04:15:49,394 was updated to add four new focus areas including 670 04:15:49,394 --> 04:15:52,994 affordable and attainable housing, economic development 671 04:15:55,354 --> 04:15:57,694 community programs and beautification 672 04:15:57,694 --> 04:16:00,294 and esthetics while still maintaining the transportation 673 04:16:00,294 --> 04:16:01,634 initiatives. 674 04:16:01,634 --> 04:16:04,194 You the Board of County Commissioners 675 04:16:04,194 --> 04:16:06,367 serves as the governing board and we 676 04:16:06,367 --> 04:16:08,786 have an advisory committee that was established 677 04:16:08,786 --> 04:16:11,740 in 2002 to assist with determining 678 04:16:11,740 --> 04:16:16,740 which projects move forward and how the funds are spent. 679 04:16:16,740 --> 04:16:19,954 The advisory committee consists of seven representatives 680 04:16:19,954 --> 04:16:23,554 starting with the 2026 chairperson Sarah Nemes 681 04:16:27,594 --> 04:16:30,184 representing efficient transportation for the community 682 04:16:30,184 --> 04:16:31,574 of Central Florida. 683 04:16:31,574 --> 04:16:35,114 Vice chair Chris Mueller as the mayor's representative. 684 04:16:35,114 --> 04:16:38,647 Carmen Peterson representing the University Boulevard Property 685 04:16:38,647 --> 04:16:40,340 Owners Association. 686 04:16:40,340 --> 04:16:44,834 Derek Baum representing the I-drive Resort Area Chamber 687 04:16:45,544 --> 04:16:46,274 of Commerce. 688 04:16:46,274 --> 04:16:49,540 Brian Small representing the I-drive Master Transit 689 04:16:49,540 --> 04:16:50,567 and Improvement District. 690 04:16:50,567 --> 04:16:54,394 Shirley Washington representing the Tangelo Park Civic 691 04:16:54,394 --> 04:16:56,740 Association and our newest member 692 04:16:56,740 --> 04:16:59,674 is Laura Kelly at large representative John. 693 04:16:59,674 --> 04:17:01,194 Many of these advisory committees 694 04:17:01,194 --> 04:17:03,786 are attending virtually and our business partners 695 04:17:03,786 --> 04:17:07,854 in the audience are here to support their recommendations. 696 04:17:07,854 --> 04:17:11,454 The redevelopment area consists of 7315 acres 697 04:17:13,754 --> 04:17:17,354 surrounding International Drive and Universal Boulevard. 698 04:17:17,834 --> 04:17:21,700 On the Western side the border is I-4. 699 04:17:21,700 --> 04:17:26,627 On the north it staggers through the Orange County and City 700 04:17:26,627 --> 04:17:28,940 of Orlando line with the exception 701 04:17:28,940 --> 04:17:33,434 of the small area in gold, which was originally 702 04:17:33,434 --> 04:17:36,202 part of Orange County but was annexed into the city of Orlando 703 04:17:36,202 --> 04:17:37,180 in 2002. 704 04:17:37,180 --> 04:17:41,554 On the eastern side north of 528 is Florida's Turnpike 705 04:17:41,554 --> 04:17:46,700 and south of 528 the line staggers between International 706 04:17:46,700 --> 04:17:48,846 Drive and the Williamsburg community. 707 04:17:48,846 --> 04:17:53,460 To the south, Westwood Boulevard southern Lake. 708 04:17:53,560 --> 04:18:00,160 The CRA plan helps to identify the focus areas, the intent 709 04:18:00,760 --> 04:18:03,314 of each focus area and how the funding is distributed 710 04:18:03,314 --> 04:18:04,974 amongst the different focus areas. 711 04:18:04,974 --> 04:18:08,507 In 2021 in addition to adding the four new focus areas 712 04:18:08,507 --> 04:18:11,900 we also added a funding cap of $22 million. 713 04:18:11,900 --> 04:18:14,900 Any funds collected over $22 million 714 04:18:15,602 --> 04:18:19,202 are then divided with 75% returning back 715 04:18:19,420 --> 04:18:23,858 as a rebate to the general funds at the same percentage 716 04:18:23,858 --> 04:18:25,210 in which it was collected. 717 04:18:25,210 --> 04:18:29,226 The other 25% is added to the original $22 million 718 04:18:29,226 --> 04:18:31,506 to remain with the CRA. 719 04:18:31,506 --> 04:18:37,506 All while maintaining the sunset date of September 30th of 2028. 720 04:18:37,940 --> 04:18:40,794 Program highlights since the inception 721 04:18:40,794 --> 04:18:44,234 of the program include 20 transportation projects that 722 04:18:44,234 --> 04:18:46,564 have either been completed or in progress 723 04:18:46,564 --> 04:18:50,164 including the widening of Jean-Luc Parkway 724 04:18:50,934 --> 04:18:52,705 and International Driveway. 725 04:18:52,705 --> 04:18:54,122 We've had two new connections that 726 04:18:54,122 --> 04:18:56,674 were very important to help international drive 727 04:18:56,674 --> 04:18:59,954 motorists reach the major expressways more efficiently. 728 04:18:59,954 --> 04:19:02,645 We have repaired 29 low income homes 729 04:19:02,645 --> 04:19:06,334 with an investment of $3 million in the Tangelo Park community. 730 04:19:06,334 --> 04:19:09,734 We have assisted over 800 employees to improve 731 04:19:09,734 --> 04:19:11,734 their English skills . 732 04:19:12,700 --> 04:19:16,414 We have constructed a new community center for the Tangelo 733 04:19:16,414 --> 04:19:19,754 Park residents and install new wayfinding signs 734 04:19:19,754 --> 04:19:21,834 throughout the CRA boundaries. 735 04:19:21,834 --> 04:19:26,634 The proposed fiscal year 26-27 budget totals $156.1 million 736 04:19:31,404 --> 04:19:35,626 which is a reduction of 35.8% over the current budget. 737 04:19:35,626 --> 04:19:38,932 This is primarily due to the capital improvement projects. 738 04:19:38,932 --> 04:19:41,238 This fiscal year we had a couple projects 739 04:19:41,238 --> 04:19:44,738 that are in construction and had a larger amount of funds 740 04:19:44,738 --> 04:19:46,706 whereas next year most of those projects 741 04:19:46,706 --> 04:19:49,214 are in early design and planning phase 742 04:19:49,214 --> 04:19:51,842 and have a lower funding need. 743 04:19:51,842 --> 04:19:54,274 Under the transportation Focus area 744 04:19:54,274 --> 04:19:59,634 we are requesting $22.3 million for the projects you see above 745 04:19:59,634 --> 04:20:02,327 and we will review each one universally 746 04:20:02,327 --> 04:20:05,927 starting with regional transit Connectivity project. 747 04:20:06,514 --> 04:20:10,142 This is a project managed by Lynx 748 04:20:10,142 --> 04:20:12,470 and funded through the I-drive CRA 749 04:20:12,470 --> 04:20:15,864 to provide extended hours and an increased 750 04:20:15,864 --> 04:20:17,634 frequency of the transit operations 751 04:20:17,634 --> 04:20:19,304 in the I-drive corridor. 752 04:20:19,304 --> 04:20:24,140 This project was brought to you by the commissioners who 753 04:20:24,140 --> 04:20:27,642 found a lot of our employees start early in the morning 754 04:20:27,642 --> 04:20:31,607 and go late beyond midnight and dark existing transit operations 755 04:20:31,607 --> 04:20:34,504 not conducive to the hospitality industry. 756 04:20:34,504 --> 04:20:38,322 By adding extended hours and increasing the frequency 757 04:20:38,322 --> 04:20:41,794 we found that the employees are spending more time at work 758 04:20:41,794 --> 04:20:43,874 making money or home with their families 759 04:20:43,874 --> 04:20:46,874 rather than riding a bus. 760 04:20:47,174 --> 04:20:50,944 We implemented the project in December of 2021 761 04:20:50,944 --> 04:20:55,607 and we've had an increase in stop usage of over 50% 762 04:20:55,607 --> 04:20:58,474 since that time and an average increase 763 04:20:58,474 --> 04:21:02,466 in ridership of at least 12% on an annual basis. 764 04:21:02,466 --> 04:21:05,180 The requested funds of $2.5 million 765 04:21:05,180 --> 04:21:09,818 will continue the extended service to routes eight, 37, 42 766 04:21:15,120 --> 04:21:17,120 next fiscal year. 767 04:21:17,826 --> 04:21:20,514 The Kirkman Road extension was opened 768 04:21:20,514 --> 04:21:22,490 and during this fiscal year we continued 769 04:21:22,490 --> 04:21:24,534 to close out our punch list items 770 04:21:24,534 --> 04:21:27,464 to prepare to transfer the road from maintenance to Orange 771 04:21:27,464 --> 04:21:28,234 County. 772 04:21:28,234 --> 04:21:29,858 The requested funds of $3 million 773 04:21:29,858 --> 04:21:33,498 will be utilized for rebate that was already 774 04:21:33,498 --> 04:21:35,498 determined as part of the roadway agreement that 775 04:21:35,498 --> 04:21:40,714 is due one year after it turns over to maintenance permit just 776 04:21:40,714 --> 04:21:44,594 south of Kirkland Road trade show Boulevard was originally 777 04:21:44,594 --> 04:21:47,607 a two lane roadway designed just to carry freight 778 04:21:47,607 --> 04:21:50,482 for the convention center's north south building 779 04:21:50,482 --> 04:21:54,104 but as the Kirkland Road extension came down 780 04:21:54,104 --> 04:21:57,380 south to Universal Boulevard it soon became evident 781 04:21:57,380 --> 04:22:00,796 that we needed more than just a two lane road. 782 04:22:00,796 --> 04:22:03,490 The requested project allows for two lanes 783 04:22:03,490 --> 04:22:08,890 in each direction for general use, a dedicated transit 784 04:22:09,347 --> 04:22:11,254 lane in the center all while maintaining 785 04:22:11,254 --> 04:22:15,134 the freight lanes needed for the convention center. 786 04:22:15,134 --> 04:22:18,971 We are currently finalizing design plans as 90% 787 04:22:18,971 --> 04:22:21,314 and we plan to have those design plans 788 04:22:21,314 --> 04:22:23,347 by the end of the fiscal year. 789 04:22:23,347 --> 04:22:25,380 In addition we've worked with Duke Energy 790 04:22:25,380 --> 04:22:28,866 to ensure that all of the improvements on trade Show 791 04:22:28,866 --> 04:22:31,404 Boulevard has the least amount of impacts to the utilities 792 04:22:31,404 --> 04:22:32,714 that were existing. 793 04:22:32,714 --> 04:22:35,714 The requested funds of $5.7 million 794 04:22:35,780 --> 04:22:39,980 will complete the permitting and mitigation stage 795 04:22:40,927 --> 04:22:44,855 and allow us to repair the writing and mitigation easement 796 04:22:44,855 --> 04:22:46,938 agreements with owners on either side of the road. 797 04:22:46,938 --> 04:22:50,660 This also provides an important connection of transit 798 04:22:50,660 --> 04:22:54,413 all the way from the city limits down south to the destination 799 04:22:54,413 --> 04:22:59,247 Parkway and allows us to improve for the future areas 800 04:22:59,247 --> 04:23:05,247 in the super stop that exists just south of Destination 801 04:23:05,674 --> 04:23:06,374 Parkway. 802 04:23:06,374 --> 04:23:10,574 The Tangelo Park pedestrian Traffic Calming program 803 04:23:10,634 --> 04:23:16,340 has approved the replacement of bus shelters and trash 804 04:23:17,154 --> 04:23:20,224 receptacles throughout the Tangelo Park neighborhood. 805 04:23:20,224 --> 04:23:25,254 We heard from residents that the existing bus shelter 806 04:23:25,254 --> 04:23:28,919 design was not conducive to what was needed. 807 04:23:28,919 --> 04:23:31,407 A lot of the stops are very small 808 04:23:31,407 --> 04:23:35,606 and the roof is very curved so that when it rains, 809 04:23:35,606 --> 04:23:40,447 it funnels down on either side and leaves a very small area 810 04:23:40,447 --> 04:23:42,488 in the center for people to stand and wait 811 04:23:42,488 --> 04:23:44,888 for the bus shelters. 812 04:23:45,230 --> 04:23:47,334 Links provided the amount of funds 813 04:23:47,334 --> 04:23:52,730 that would be needed to redo those bus shelters that they 814 04:23:52,730 --> 04:23:54,934 would have put forth toward the project and the CRA funded 815 04:23:54,934 --> 04:23:58,772 the additional amount to replace them instead of just refurbish 816 04:23:58,772 --> 04:23:59,991 them. 817 04:23:59,991 --> 04:24:04,480 In addition, the neighborhood warranted speed radar signs 818 04:24:04,480 --> 04:24:06,139 and in light speed limit markings 819 04:24:06,139 --> 04:24:08,586 on the two main roadways. 820 04:24:08,586 --> 04:24:11,914 The inline speed limit markings have been installed 821 04:24:11,914 --> 04:24:15,540 but the speed radar signs are on backorder 822 04:24:15,540 --> 04:24:17,880 and we anticipate those to be installed 823 04:24:17,880 --> 04:24:19,494 by the end of the fiscal year. 824 04:24:19,494 --> 04:24:22,934 The requested funds of $300,000 will be used to install 825 04:24:22,934 --> 04:24:25,708 additional marked pedestrian crosswalks both near 826 04:24:25,708 --> 04:24:29,660 the elementary school and on the main walkway between the Baptist 827 04:24:29,660 --> 04:24:32,654 Church and the new community center we plan to open in just 828 04:24:32,654 --> 04:24:33,914 a couple months. 829 04:24:33,914 --> 04:24:36,914 Pedestrian enhancements throughout the CRA 830 04:24:37,914 --> 04:24:41,740 include the activation of three new pedestrian traffic 831 04:24:41,740 --> 04:24:44,394 signals including two new set traffic 832 04:24:44,394 --> 04:24:47,914 signals on international drive and one much needed traffic 833 04:24:47,914 --> 04:24:52,114 signal at Universal Boulevard and Lake K. 834 04:24:53,316 --> 04:24:55,842 I'd like to draw your attention to the image you 835 04:24:55,842 --> 04:24:57,314 have in your presentation. 836 04:24:57,314 --> 04:25:00,214 This shows the newest mast arm that was installed 837 04:25:00,214 --> 04:25:04,180 and it is the longest mast arm we have installed 838 04:25:04,180 --> 04:25:05,962 on International Drive. 839 04:25:05,962 --> 04:25:09,725 The design that was used allowed us to have less impacts 840 04:25:09,725 --> 04:25:14,737 to the four corners, less right of way needed 841 04:25:14,737 --> 04:25:16,634 and it required less downtown for the roadway 842 04:25:16,634 --> 04:25:18,474 to have the installation. 843 04:25:18,474 --> 04:25:23,547 In addition, international drive just north of Sand Lake Road 844 04:25:23,547 --> 04:25:25,514 we are conducting a pedestrian study 845 04:25:25,514 --> 04:25:29,214 to upgrade the sidewalks to the newest Ada standards 846 04:25:29,214 --> 04:25:32,447 and provide a more enhanced pedestrian crossings 847 04:25:32,447 --> 04:25:34,367 across International Drive. 848 04:25:34,367 --> 04:25:37,367 The requested funds of $5.2 million 849 04:25:37,786 --> 04:25:41,194 will be used to implement the recommended improvements that 850 04:25:41,194 --> 04:25:42,820 come from the study. 851 04:25:42,820 --> 04:25:46,660 We will upgrade two bus pull offs that are currently 852 04:25:46,660 --> 04:25:47,810 on international Drive. 853 04:25:47,810 --> 04:25:51,540 They are heavily used by our longer articulated busses 854 04:25:51,540 --> 04:25:55,524 so that the back end does not block the through traffic. 855 04:25:55,524 --> 04:25:59,124 And lastly, funding will be utilized 856 04:25:59,538 --> 04:26:02,174 to upgrade traffic signals on Central Florida Parkway 857 04:26:02,174 --> 04:26:05,740 to enhance both traffic flow and pedestrian safety. 858 04:26:05,740 --> 04:26:08,740 The international drive pedestrian overpass 859 04:26:08,874 --> 04:26:11,690 at International Drive at Sand Lake 860 04:26:11,690 --> 04:26:14,482 finalized its conceptual analysis with you 861 04:26:14,482 --> 04:26:18,554 the board approving to move into the design stage. 862 04:26:18,554 --> 04:26:22,906 This fiscal year we have advertised the design scope 863 04:26:22,906 --> 04:26:27,274 to get the right consultant to build this overpass 864 04:26:27,274 --> 04:26:29,274 throughout the intersection. 865 04:26:29,334 --> 04:26:33,534 The original concept plans recommended both stairs 866 04:26:33,698 --> 04:26:36,740 and elevators on all four corners 867 04:26:36,740 --> 04:26:40,384 and joining everybody in the center to more efficiently cross 868 04:26:40,384 --> 04:26:42,784 both bicycles and pedestrians. 869 04:26:43,304 --> 04:26:47,150 We are currently in preliminary right of way discussions 870 04:26:47,150 --> 04:26:49,840 with property owners on all four corners. 871 04:26:49,840 --> 04:26:53,900 They've been great partners and are aware of the project. 872 04:26:53,900 --> 04:26:55,450 We would like to request $5 million 873 04:26:55,450 --> 04:26:58,268 to progress this project into the next stage 874 04:26:58,268 --> 04:27:04,834 and fund the rest of the design phase next fiscal year 875 04:27:04,834 --> 04:27:08,700 and it will also allow us to enter into the independent peer 876 04:27:08,700 --> 04:27:08,570 review. 877 04:27:08,570 --> 04:27:13,200 The peer review is a by fDOT for all category two 878 04:27:13,200 --> 04:27:14,258 complex structures. 879 04:27:14,258 --> 04:27:18,170 As you saw in the original conceptual analysis, 880 04:27:18,170 --> 04:27:22,134 this is not just your average bridge. 881 04:27:22,134 --> 04:27:24,554 It is a unique complex structure so 882 04:27:24,554 --> 04:27:27,706 with that we are required to do an independent peer review along 883 04:27:27,706 --> 04:27:29,734 with our design phase. 884 04:27:29,734 --> 04:27:31,667 In addition it will help us to prepare 885 04:27:31,667 --> 04:27:34,834 the right of way and easement agreements 886 04:27:34,834 --> 04:27:39,246 and processing those agreements with the property owners. 887 04:27:39,246 --> 04:27:42,274 The International Drive Bus Rapid Transit System 888 04:27:42,274 --> 04:27:45,946 is also a joint project with Lynx. 889 04:27:45,946 --> 04:27:50,700 This will provide a more premium robust transit system 890 04:27:50,700 --> 04:27:51,554 along international drive. 891 04:27:51,554 --> 04:27:58,154 As well , we did the conceptual analysis in the past prior 892 04:27:59,467 --> 04:28:03,380 to COVID and are now beginning the professional engineering 893 04:28:03,380 --> 04:28:03,538 phase. 894 04:28:03,538 --> 04:28:05,859 We have hired a consultant and they 895 04:28:05,859 --> 04:28:08,487 will prepare the rest of the study environmental requirements 896 04:28:08,487 --> 04:28:11,658 to complete the initial study and review 897 04:28:11,658 --> 04:28:15,487 the need for dedicated lanes that was initially done 898 04:28:15,487 --> 04:28:17,194 with the Transit lane project. 899 04:28:17,194 --> 04:28:18,934 We will reengage our stakeholders 900 04:28:18,934 --> 04:28:22,143 that were very involved in the conceptual analysis 901 04:28:22,143 --> 04:28:24,874 to ensure that all the elements we have in place 902 04:28:24,874 --> 04:28:29,794 are ready for our request with the Federal Transit 903 04:28:29,794 --> 04:28:30,784 Administration. 904 04:28:30,784 --> 04:28:33,784 The request of 100 thousand dollars 905 04:28:34,909 --> 04:28:37,740 will allow us to expand our scope 906 04:28:37,740 --> 04:28:39,914 and add additional technology and roadway connections that 907 04:28:39,914 --> 04:28:45,314 did not exist when we did the original conceptual analysis. 908 04:28:45,314 --> 04:28:48,314 Items like Kirkman Road Extension 909 04:28:49,750 --> 04:28:52,000 is a good example of items we did not 910 04:28:52,000 --> 04:28:54,934 know existed when we did the original feasibility study. 911 04:28:54,934 --> 04:28:59,594 A little bit of extra funds will allow us to do a full analysis. 912 04:28:59,594 --> 04:29:04,740 Under the affordable and attainable Housing Focus area 913 04:29:04,740 --> 04:29:08,874 we are requesting $1.38 million for the two projects 914 04:29:09,334 --> 04:29:14,234 you see above starting with the Tangelo Park Housing Repair 915 04:29:14,234 --> 04:29:14,874 Project. 916 04:29:14,874 --> 04:29:18,704 This housing repair project is very similar to the housing 917 04:29:18,704 --> 04:29:20,787 repair projects throughout the rest of the county. 918 04:29:20,787 --> 04:29:24,114 It is income based and helps to provide improvements 919 04:29:24,114 --> 04:29:30,418 to one or more rooms in a residential home giving priority 920 04:29:30,418 --> 04:29:35,818 to people with elderly, disabled or known safety violations. 921 04:29:36,394 --> 04:29:38,930 Each person files for an application 922 04:29:38,930 --> 04:29:41,474 and it is determined what the needs are for their homes 923 04:29:41,474 --> 04:29:45,186 based on income and what the specific home needs are. 924 04:29:45,186 --> 04:29:47,540 Three homes are currently under construction 925 04:29:47,540 --> 04:29:52,454 and we have additional residents in the preplanning stage. 926 04:29:52,967 --> 04:29:55,394 The requested funds of just over $1 million 927 04:29:55,394 --> 04:29:59,354 will allow us to continue this program into fiscal year 2027 928 04:29:59,354 --> 04:30:02,154 and allow additional funding for additional residents 929 04:30:02,154 --> 04:30:04,554 to be improved upon. 930 04:30:04,934 --> 04:30:07,894 The housing infill project continues 931 04:30:07,894 --> 04:30:11,594 to build capital to incentivize a future mixed income 932 04:30:11,594 --> 04:30:15,194 residential property within the CRA limits. 933 04:30:15,418 --> 04:30:21,418 The requested funds of $325,000 will be added to the previous 934 04:30:21,450 --> 04:30:27,114 funds and previous budget years to continue our planning efforts 935 04:30:27,114 --> 04:30:29,434 to have a small nest egg available when the right 936 04:30:29,434 --> 04:30:31,644 property and developer comes along. 937 04:30:31,644 --> 04:30:35,244 In the economic Development Focus area 938 04:30:35,346 --> 04:30:39,718 we are requesting just over $1.5 million for the projects 939 04:30:39,718 --> 04:30:42,249 you see above on the screen beginning 940 04:30:42,249 --> 04:30:46,449 with English first speakers of other languages. 941 04:30:46,954 --> 04:30:50,990 This program assists employees that work within the I-drive CRA 942 04:30:50,990 --> 04:30:52,418 to learn English. 943 04:30:52,418 --> 04:30:56,204 Whether they are a beginner or more advanced English speaker. 944 04:30:56,204 --> 04:31:00,106 We currently have two employers that are hosting programs 945 04:31:00,106 --> 04:31:02,722 this fiscal year and we are actively searching 946 04:31:02,722 --> 04:31:05,464 for new and post locations. 947 04:31:05,464 --> 04:31:09,104 This program is brought by a partnership with Orange County 948 04:31:09,104 --> 04:31:12,340 Public Schools Adult Education and I 949 04:31:12,340 --> 04:31:16,160 would like to draw attention to the picture of the unique setup 950 04:31:16,160 --> 04:31:22,160 that we have in with the Orange County Public Schools. 951 04:31:22,514 --> 04:31:26,634 These utilize both laptops and headphones allowing employees 952 04:31:26,634 --> 04:31:28,458 to have different skill set levels. 953 04:31:28,458 --> 04:31:33,840 If somebody comes in with no English skills at all, 954 04:31:33,840 --> 04:31:34,964 they can be sat in the same classroom 955 04:31:34,964 --> 04:31:37,307 as somebody who wants to work on verbs and adverbs 956 04:31:37,307 --> 04:31:40,418 so you don't have to have separate classroom sessions. 957 04:31:40,418 --> 04:31:44,527 As long as an employee has at least 25 people with an interest 958 04:31:44,527 --> 04:31:46,994 we can host a location right there. 959 04:31:46,994 --> 04:31:52,820 The funds of $250,000 will allow us to continue the program 960 04:31:52,820 --> 04:31:54,820 into fiscal year 2027. 961 04:31:54,234 --> 04:31:56,554 This program has been about three years now 962 04:31:56,554 --> 04:32:00,898 and it has been found to be very successful and a program 963 04:32:00,898 --> 04:32:05,634 that a lot of the employees enjoy in the CRA. 964 04:32:05,634 --> 04:32:09,258 The culinary pilot program has developed a curriculum 965 04:32:09,258 --> 04:32:14,626 this fiscal year to include both a classroom and hands on kitchen 966 04:32:14,626 --> 04:32:18,600 prep through partnerships with Florida Restaurant 967 04:32:18,600 --> 04:32:22,860 and Lodging Association, Central Florida Hospitality and Lodging 968 04:32:23,474 --> 04:32:27,740 Association, rosin College of Hospitality Management 969 04:32:29,207 --> 04:32:30,634 and Careersource. 970 04:32:30,634 --> 04:32:32,847 We begin our stakeholder engagement 971 04:32:32,847 --> 04:32:34,696 with stakeholders in the area to ensure 972 04:32:34,696 --> 04:32:38,138 that the curriculum we chose has the right elements 973 04:32:38,138 --> 04:32:40,914 to help the employees to have the greatest 974 04:32:40,914 --> 04:32:44,687 impact and growth within their hospitality industry. 975 04:32:44,687 --> 04:32:48,654 The requested funds of $300,000 will help us to continue 976 04:32:48,654 --> 04:32:53,154 the program into next fiscal year and find host locations 977 04:32:53,154 --> 04:32:54,714 throughout the CRA. 978 04:32:54,714 --> 04:32:59,844 Under the community cultural and Institutional Focus Area we are 979 04:32:59,844 --> 04:33:04,440 requesting $250,000 for the Tangelo Youth Service Program. 980 04:33:04,674 --> 04:33:08,234 This is a developed curriculum based program 981 04:33:08,234 --> 04:33:11,974 to provide after school and summer program 982 04:33:11,974 --> 04:33:14,674 within the Tangelo Park community. 983 04:33:14,674 --> 04:33:18,474 Previously they used to have the program at the elementary school 984 04:33:18,474 --> 04:33:20,414 and it was discontinued. 985 04:33:20,414 --> 04:33:25,214 Universal Orlando offered to sponsor the program temporarily 986 04:33:25,604 --> 04:33:31,400 until we can grow our own Orange County program. 987 04:33:31,644 --> 04:33:34,444 Using the CRA funds we have hired a consultant 988 04:33:34,444 --> 04:33:39,250 to oversee the program and manage the operations for 40 989 04:33:39,250 --> 04:33:41,650 to 50 elementary aged students. 990 04:33:42,114 --> 04:33:44,420 The program will begin in the Baptist Church 991 04:33:44,420 --> 04:33:48,334 as it is held today and then as we continue our construction 992 04:33:48,334 --> 04:33:51,934 through the community center, once it 993 04:33:52,122 --> 04:33:54,178 is open in just a couple of months 994 04:33:54,178 --> 04:33:56,514 we will transfer over to the community center. 995 04:33:56,514 --> 04:33:58,154 Once we are in the community center 996 04:33:58,154 --> 04:34:01,582 we do anticipate that number to grow a little bit. 997 04:34:01,582 --> 04:34:04,687 We did our initial assessment based on how many students come 998 04:34:04,687 --> 04:34:08,690 to the Baptist church right now but the Baptist church is quite 999 04:34:08,690 --> 04:34:12,290 a distance from the elementary school . 1000 04:34:12,296 --> 04:34:15,340 So once it is next door we may see 1001 04:34:15,340 --> 04:34:17,634 an increase of those kindergartners first grade 1002 04:34:17,634 --> 04:34:21,114 second grade that are a little farther to traverse today 1003 04:34:21,114 --> 04:34:23,940 to get to the Baptist School. 1004 04:34:23,940 --> 04:34:28,887 The requested funds of $250,000 will allow us to continue 1005 04:34:28,887 --> 04:34:32,954 the program next fiscal year and to assess what the needs are. 1006 04:34:32,954 --> 04:34:37,674 As I said, this will be conducted in the community 1007 04:34:37,674 --> 04:34:40,490 center and as you can see from the images, 1008 04:34:40,490 --> 04:34:43,490 we've made great progress throughout 2026 1009 04:34:44,140 --> 04:34:47,240 throughout the construction of this development. 1010 04:34:47,240 --> 04:34:50,740 We have solar panels on the top end 1011 04:34:50,740 --> 04:34:51,725 to the side of the community center 1012 04:34:51,725 --> 04:34:56,494 and it will also have a swimming pool in the back for the youth 1013 04:34:56,494 --> 04:34:57,910 to take advantage of. 1014 04:34:57,910 --> 04:35:02,354 We anticipate having a grand opening in just a few months. 1015 04:35:02,354 --> 04:35:07,900 We will provide the date when it's available. 1016 04:35:07,900 --> 04:35:11,890 The last focus area is beautification and esthetics. 1017 04:35:11,914 --> 04:35:16,554 We are requesting $295,000 for the projects you see listed 1018 04:35:16,554 --> 04:35:19,469 beginning with the Sand Lake Road I-4 beautification. 1019 04:35:19,469 --> 04:35:24,269 This is a continuation of FDOT's current project 1020 04:35:28,890 --> 04:35:31,500 at the intersection of I-4 and Sand Lake. 1021 04:35:31,500 --> 04:35:33,944 The project was to install a new diamond and new ramp 1022 04:35:33,944 --> 04:35:37,918 so that we can eliminate the left turns of Sand Lake Road 1023 04:35:37,918 --> 04:35:39,130 onto Turkey Lake. 1024 04:35:39,130 --> 04:35:41,567 Both the diverging diamond and the new ramp 1025 04:35:41,567 --> 04:35:44,494 are open and have been very successful at redirecting 1026 04:35:44,494 --> 04:35:46,494 traffic. 1027 04:35:53,234 --> 04:35:56,834 FDOT hired some off duty officers 1028 04:35:57,284 --> 04:35:59,560 at the intersection of Sand Lake and Turkey 1029 04:35:59,560 --> 04:36:01,946 like to ensure people don't continue that left turn 1030 04:36:01,946 --> 04:36:04,106 and they are starting to learn the new pattern. 1031 04:36:04,106 --> 04:36:07,160 This will follow the FDOT project 1032 04:36:07,160 --> 04:36:11,334 at the end of their project and provide a more enhanced 1033 04:36:11,334 --> 04:36:12,774 landscaping and hardscape plan. 1034 04:36:12,774 --> 04:36:15,180 We are currently advertising our design scope 1035 04:36:15,180 --> 04:36:17,874 to get the right consultant to do the project 1036 04:36:17,874 --> 04:36:22,740 and preparing our stakeholder and FDOT engagement 1037 04:36:23,304 --> 04:36:26,594 to ensure the recommendations made in the conceptual analysis 1038 04:36:26,594 --> 04:36:29,482 that our Planning Division did has the right pieces that 1039 04:36:29,482 --> 04:36:32,274 are needed for the final design and construction. 1040 04:36:32,274 --> 04:36:37,740 The requested funds for next fiscal year include $100,000 1041 04:36:37,146 --> 04:36:43,746 to finish the design plans into 2027 and be ready in 2028 when 1042 04:36:47,294 --> 04:36:50,444 FDOT is done to progress to construction. 1043 04:36:50,444 --> 04:36:53,194 The Tangelo Park neighborhood sign Project 1044 04:36:53,194 --> 04:36:56,794 installed two new signs for the Tangelo Park community. 1045 04:36:56,794 --> 04:37:00,251 We had one major sign just north of Sand Lake Road which 1046 04:37:00,251 --> 04:37:04,767 is on both sides of the road that you see in the image, 1047 04:37:04,767 --> 04:37:07,794 and there was a secondary sign installed on the northern side 1048 04:37:07,794 --> 04:37:09,634 coming from the city limits. 1049 04:37:09,634 --> 04:37:12,900 That was a smaller sign but it also 1050 04:37:12,900 --> 04:37:16,154 cross-connects as a bench for our transit 1051 04:37:16,154 --> 04:37:19,526 stops so what you see in the picture is the main entrance 1052 04:37:19,526 --> 04:37:23,340 and then there is a secondary sign in the back entrance. 1053 04:37:23,340 --> 04:37:26,794 The signs were installed and we have also prepared a landscaping 1054 04:37:26,794 --> 04:37:30,850 agreement with Universal Orlando so that they 1055 04:37:30,850 --> 04:37:34,202 will maintain all of the beautiful trees and landscaping 1056 04:37:34,202 --> 04:37:39,474 that we put around the signage and keep them up to date 1057 04:37:39,474 --> 04:37:41,140 and efficient. 1058 04:37:41,140 --> 04:37:45,930 The requested funds of $5,000 will electrify the signs during 1059 04:37:45,930 --> 04:37:48,994 low light periods and help us fund the utility bill throughout 1060 04:37:48,994 --> 04:37:50,994 the fiscal year. 1061 04:37:51,562 --> 04:37:56,962 Overall, you will see a balanced budget with $156.1 million 1062 04:37:57,394 --> 04:38:00,700 on both the revenue and expenditure side. 1063 04:38:00,700 --> 04:38:03,700 I'd like to draw your attention to a couple 1064 04:38:03,700 --> 04:38:05,924 items on the expenditure side before we wrap up 1065 04:38:05,924 --> 04:38:10,184 our presentation including the CRA rebate totaling just 1066 04:38:10,184 --> 04:38:13,184 under $13.3 million, which will be 1067 04:38:16,838 --> 04:38:20,514 rebated into the general funds in the future capital outlay. 1068 04:38:20,514 --> 04:38:22,266 The future capital outlay right now 1069 04:38:22,266 --> 04:38:24,594 is currently just over $117 million 1070 04:38:24,594 --> 04:38:30,562 and that may seem like a lot of funds but as we spoke about, 1071 04:38:30,562 --> 04:38:33,831 we are getting near the end of the CRA 1072 04:38:33,831 --> 04:38:37,114 and you will find that we have approximately 5.39 1073 04:38:37,114 --> 04:38:40,114 in annual operation project total 1074 04:38:41,944 --> 04:38:46,144 as well as our capital improvement projects. 1075 04:38:48,171 --> 04:38:50,898 Currently this lists all of our capital projects 1076 04:38:50,898 --> 04:38:53,314 that we have started and if we wanted 1077 04:38:53,314 --> 04:38:56,154 to take all of those capital projects to the finish 1078 04:38:56,154 --> 04:38:58,282 line through construction right now that 1079 04:38:58,282 --> 04:39:03,820 is estimated at about $171.8 million permit that doesn't 1080 04:39:04,854 --> 04:39:07,794 include the Sunshine Corridor or the operations 1081 04:39:07,794 --> 04:39:10,274 and maintenance that might come from the projects 1082 04:39:10,274 --> 04:39:11,486 after work completed. 1083 04:39:11,486 --> 04:39:15,372 So as you see, we still will continue 1084 04:39:15,372 --> 04:39:17,674 to prioritize our projects and determine 1085 04:39:17,674 --> 04:39:21,124 which ones are best needed for the community redevelopment 1086 04:39:21,124 --> 04:39:24,447 and where we want to utilize our funds. 1087 04:39:24,447 --> 04:39:28,380 We will return to you the board in a few months 1088 04:39:28,380 --> 04:39:33,180 to continue our discussions on the sunset Date. 1089 04:39:33,180 --> 04:39:39,180 Our requested action for today is to approve and adopt 1090 04:39:42,634 --> 04:39:44,834 the resolution of the international Drive Community 1091 04:39:44,834 --> 04:39:49,634 Redevelopment Agency regarding the proposed fiscal year 2026-27 1092 04:39:52,826 --> 04:39:55,210 budget of the International Drive Community Redevelopment 1093 04:39:55,210 --> 04:39:55,710 Agency. 1094 04:39:55,710 --> 04:39:57,914 At this time I would like to turn it back over 1095 04:39:57,914 --> 04:40:00,540 to you for questions from either myself or the representatives 1096 04:40:00,540 --> 04:40:03,346 in the audience that represent the large village that 1097 04:40:03,346 --> 04:40:06,946 helps to make the CRA possible. 1098 04:40:11,338 --> 04:40:11,341 >> All right. 1099 04:40:11,341 --> 04:40:13,591 Quick question when you talk about the Tangential Park 1100 04:40:13,591 --> 04:40:17,791 housing repair program and 1,055,000 that you are 1101 04:40:18,634 --> 04:40:24,474 requesting for that, what would be the maximum per home that 1102 04:40:24,474 --> 04:40:28,740 an individual will qualify to receive? 1103 04:40:29,914 --> 04:40:33,234 >> Each project is assessed on an individual basis and I will 1104 04:40:33,234 --> 04:40:35,700 look to my housing team. 1105 04:40:35,700 --> 04:40:37,370 I think they have a representative. 1106 04:40:37,370 --> 04:40:39,218 There he is. 1107 04:40:39,218 --> 04:40:41,778 I will have Mitch come up. 1108 04:40:41,778 --> 04:40:44,526 I don't know that we have a max or if we evaluate it 1109 04:40:44,526 --> 04:40:48,126 on a case by case basis. 1110 04:40:51,138 --> 04:40:54,138 >> Good afternoon, mayor and commissioners. 1111 04:40:54,956 --> 04:40:57,764 I think we've been averaging under 100 000. 1112 04:40:57,764 --> 04:41:01,802 75 to 80,000 but we do have some homes that really need total 1113 04:41:01,802 --> 04:41:06,200 rehabs and those can go up to 150 000. 1114 04:41:07,867 --> 04:41:08,367 >> Okay. 1115 04:41:08,367 --> 04:41:13,674 So is that the established Max if it is a total home rehab? 1116 04:41:13,674 --> 04:41:15,594 150 grand? 1117 04:41:15,594 --> 04:41:16,599 >> Yeah. 1118 04:41:16,599 --> 04:41:21,994 I would have to check with staff in terms of our absolute cap 1119 04:41:21,994 --> 04:41:24,359 but I've seen -- 1120 04:41:24,359 --> 04:41:26,506 I sign a lot of the contracts that come through. 1121 04:41:26,506 --> 04:41:31,340 I know that we've been averaging a pretty good average in Tangelo 1122 04:41:31,340 --> 04:41:35,194 Park but I have seen homes that have come up. 1123 04:41:35,194 --> 04:41:37,874 >> It just seems like we have to have some kind of cap. 1124 04:41:37,874 --> 04:41:43,874 Otherwise 1,055,000 will go very quickly and we are talking about 1125 04:41:46,740 --> 04:41:50,934 Tangelo Park and maybe some of the homes out there have over 1126 04:41:50,934 --> 04:41:54,574 the years been improved and they may be worth $275,000 1127 04:41:54,574 --> 04:41:56,974 or something like that. 1128 04:41:58,660 --> 04:42:02,266 But usually the ones who are higher 1129 04:42:03,294 --> 04:42:08,140 end you know they can afford to put something in too. 1130 04:42:08,140 --> 04:42:12,214 In any case it's just a question. 1131 04:42:12,954 --> 04:42:16,554 Commissioner Wilson followed by Commissioner Scott 1132 04:42:16,800 --> 04:42:18,800 and Commissioner Semrad, 1133 04:42:19,274 --> 04:42:20,206 >> Thank you so much. 1134 04:42:20,206 --> 04:42:21,791 It was great to see you Saturday. 1135 04:42:21,791 --> 04:42:22,674 It was interesting. 1136 04:42:22,674 --> 04:42:25,634 I ran into you then I talked to our resident who 1137 04:42:25,634 --> 04:42:28,955 came up and introduced herself we went through the program 1138 04:42:28,955 --> 04:42:31,300 and works at one of the Rosen properties. 1139 04:42:31,300 --> 04:42:36,738 It was complimentary of it and apologized for her English 1140 04:42:36,738 --> 04:42:38,362 and like we just had a conversation 1141 04:42:38,362 --> 04:42:41,216 and I don't speak Spanish so actually you're winning. 1142 04:42:41,216 --> 04:42:46,898 I will say that I was blessed to be here during the time 1143 04:42:46,898 --> 04:42:52,714 that we expanded these uses, and to see some of the projects 1144 04:42:52,714 --> 04:42:54,654 in Tangelo Park and things that benefit 1145 04:42:54,654 --> 04:42:56,374 the existing residential community. 1146 04:42:56,374 --> 04:42:58,250 It is really exciting to know what 1147 04:42:58,250 --> 04:43:02,838 is coming in the future for other parts of these projects. 1148 04:43:02,838 --> 04:43:04,594 It's also very exciting but we are 1149 04:43:04,594 --> 04:43:06,460 getting close to that 2028 day. 1150 04:43:06,460 --> 04:43:09,508 You said we are coming back to maybe talk about what next 1151 04:43:09,508 --> 04:43:16,340 so I believe I made a pitch for it back then 1152 04:43:16,340 --> 04:43:18,456 and I'm going to do it again. 1153 04:43:18,456 --> 04:43:22,440 If you look at the map of the CRA, 1154 04:43:22,440 --> 04:43:28,440 the part that is right there below Tangelo Park -- 1155 04:43:33,205 --> 04:43:37,406 if you dip down there below 528 all those little residential 1156 04:43:37,406 --> 04:43:42,700 areas down there, that is Williamsburg and Williamsburg is 1157 04:43:42,700 --> 04:43:44,407 another established older community. 1158 04:43:45,434 --> 04:43:47,202 Working class and some elderly residents 1159 04:43:47,202 --> 04:43:49,634 and they have been very much I believe 1160 04:43:49,634 --> 04:43:53,586 impacted by the development that has been beneficial to many 1161 04:43:53,586 --> 04:43:56,724 in other parts of the county that is right over that line 1162 04:43:56,724 --> 04:44:00,240 and there was not an opportunity to expand 1163 04:44:00,240 --> 04:44:03,284 to assist some of the projects they need and we've really 1164 04:44:03,284 --> 04:44:06,586 struggled there to afford everything from speed tables 1165 04:44:06,586 --> 04:44:08,924 to extra stop signs. 1166 04:44:08,924 --> 04:44:12,234 It took three commissioners to get a light 1167 04:44:12,234 --> 04:44:14,820 and that had been warranted I think 1168 04:44:14,820 --> 04:44:16,482 in 2012 in the Williamsburg. 1169 04:44:19,740 --> 04:44:21,150 I know that this part of the district 1170 04:44:21,150 --> 04:44:24,138 is going to be turned over to a new commissioner in November 1171 04:44:24,138 --> 04:44:27,911 and I will continue to pursue this because I still 1172 04:44:27,911 --> 04:44:29,578 work for all the people in Orange County 1173 04:44:29,578 --> 04:44:33,994 but I think there is really a great opportunity seeing 1174 04:44:33,994 --> 04:44:38,100 the success the CRA has had in the expanded uses in all 1175 04:44:38,100 --> 04:44:40,414 of the areas that they have been in since the inception 1176 04:44:40,414 --> 04:44:45,474 to try to see if we can bring in the Williamsburg area, 1177 04:44:45,474 --> 04:44:47,474 if that's possible. 1178 04:44:47,644 --> 04:44:53,618 My last question was, will the study for the bus rapid transit 1179 04:44:53,618 --> 04:44:58,468 or the studies that have gone into bus rapid transit in that 1180 04:44:58,468 --> 04:45:00,171 area -- 1181 04:45:00,171 --> 04:45:04,500 I know there was talk in the past about an expansion 1182 04:45:04,500 --> 04:45:06,386 of I-drive itself and it concerns me knowing 1183 04:45:06,386 --> 04:45:09,298 that the shade trees along this stretch 1184 04:45:09,298 --> 04:45:11,698 are finally actually giving some shade 1185 04:45:11,698 --> 04:45:15,907 and people actually do sort of try to walk along their and just 1186 04:45:15,907 --> 04:45:17,324 see there has been a lot of effort 1187 04:45:17,324 --> 04:45:21,340 made into the crosswalks and other options. 1188 04:45:21,340 --> 04:45:26,594 I feared that if we widened more and take out those trees that we 1189 04:45:26,594 --> 04:45:29,842 are actually going to be undoing that work that has been done 1190 04:45:29,842 --> 04:45:34,774 on the pedestrian accessibility, and I mean that in a way 1191 04:45:34,774 --> 04:45:37,274 that I don't want to walk out in the sun right now or really 1192 04:45:37,274 --> 04:45:39,820 most of the year here in Florida unless there is some shade. 1193 04:45:39,820 --> 04:45:41,260 So has there been a look at trying 1194 04:45:41,260 --> 04:45:43,425 to make sure that those are going to be kept 1195 04:45:43,425 --> 04:45:46,607 or if they are going to be designed around? 1196 04:45:46,607 --> 04:45:48,374 >> So there is two different projects. 1197 04:45:48,374 --> 04:45:51,694 The Transit lane project and then the bus rapid transit 1198 04:45:51,694 --> 04:45:52,234 system. 1199 04:45:52,234 --> 04:45:57,340 The transit lane project, currently the design plans 1200 04:45:57,634 --> 04:45:59,569 show the widening from the center median 1201 04:45:59,569 --> 04:46:02,340 so all of those trees that are along the sidewalks 1202 04:46:02,340 --> 04:46:05,420 on the outside won't be as impacted as the ones that 1203 04:46:05,420 --> 04:46:06,914 are in the center. 1204 04:46:06,914 --> 04:46:11,200 They did look at the plans to reduce the least 1205 04:46:11,200 --> 04:46:15,338 amount of impact to the trees but the best widening 1206 04:46:15,338 --> 04:46:19,874 is to the center, which means some of that median 1207 04:46:19,874 --> 04:46:20,998 is going to be impacted. 1208 04:46:20,998 --> 04:46:24,807 The good news is that after the project is done, 1209 04:46:24,807 --> 04:46:30,740 we can return back and freshen up and beef up the landscaping 1210 04:46:30,740 --> 04:46:34,340 and we do also have the wayfinding signs that 1211 04:46:34,340 --> 04:46:36,434 will help beautify it. 1212 04:46:36,882 --> 04:46:39,670 And attached in conjunction with that project. 1213 04:46:39,670 --> 04:46:43,200 The second piece is the bus rapid transit system. 1214 04:46:43,200 --> 04:46:49,602 Those will have pull offs on the side of the road , 1215 04:46:50,602 --> 04:46:53,874 but they have been intricately looked at so we can put them 1216 04:46:53,874 --> 04:46:58,154 in the best locations to have the least impact to everything. 1217 04:46:58,154 --> 04:47:00,154 Driveways, drainage entries. 1218 04:47:02,554 --> 04:47:05,967 Can help put those bus pull offs in the best locations. 1219 04:47:05,967 --> 04:47:06,967 >> Great news. 1220 04:47:06,967 --> 04:47:08,984 Anywhere that we can try to keep that coverage 1221 04:47:08,984 --> 04:47:12,340 I mean all you have to do is drive along I drive 1222 04:47:12,340 --> 04:47:14,178 corridor and the difference it makes in those areas 1223 04:47:14,178 --> 04:47:17,940 where they have matured is indescribable 1224 04:47:17,940 --> 04:47:20,354 until one is gone then you're like why does this look so 1225 04:47:20,354 --> 04:47:25,600 barren it is because of that natural element that God created 1226 04:47:25,600 --> 04:47:31,660 and that we protect and so that's my pull for that. 1227 04:47:32,740 --> 04:47:34,740 >> Commissioner Scott. 1228 04:47:34,394 --> 04:47:36,140 >> Thank you for the presentation. 1229 04:47:36,140 --> 04:47:37,954 You guys have been busy. 1230 04:47:37,954 --> 04:47:43,114 Kind of along the lines of what Commissioner Wilson was sharing, 1231 04:47:43,114 --> 04:47:45,204 obviously it is slated to sunset. 1232 04:47:45,204 --> 04:47:47,490 We have a lot of different things to factor 1233 04:47:47,490 --> 04:47:52,594 but let's say property tax does not pass or it does. 1234 04:47:52,594 --> 04:47:55,262 I would really like for you guys to evaluate 1235 04:47:55,262 --> 04:47:57,264 what it would look like to expand the project 1236 04:47:57,264 --> 04:48:00,224 to encompass Williamsburg and even to some degree Bonnybrook. 1237 04:48:00,224 --> 04:48:02,364 All three of those communities are older 1238 04:48:02,364 --> 04:48:03,906 not just in the sense of construction 1239 04:48:03,906 --> 04:48:07,263 but in the sense of who has been there for 30 or 40 1240 04:48:07,263 --> 04:48:10,272 years in some instances and those are the three communities 1241 04:48:10,272 --> 04:48:13,872 that are most impacted by tourism 1242 04:48:14,414 --> 04:48:17,820 as they come in for traffic and special events. 1243 04:48:17,820 --> 04:48:20,618 I think now recently with the new theme park now 1244 04:48:20,618 --> 04:48:23,154 the fireworks every night all those communities 1245 04:48:23,154 --> 04:48:25,300 it's like can you hear the fireworks 1246 04:48:25,300 --> 04:48:28,867 and you can see it so particularly if you are 1247 04:48:28,867 --> 04:48:30,906 a new family and you have a child asleep 1248 04:48:30,906 --> 04:48:32,914 and then boom boom boom and so making sure 1249 04:48:32,914 --> 04:48:36,574 that we invest in all of those communities around the area. 1250 04:48:36,574 --> 04:48:37,917 Not just tangelo. 1251 04:48:37,917 --> 04:48:40,710 I'd like for you guys to kind of look 1252 04:48:40,710 --> 04:48:41,844 at what that looks like as we start 1253 04:48:41,844 --> 04:48:44,908 having the conversation of sunsetting the CRA. 1254 04:48:44,908 --> 04:48:46,658 Other than that I don't have any concerns. 1255 04:48:46,658 --> 04:48:49,444 I think you guys have done a phenomenal job of communicating 1256 04:48:49,444 --> 04:48:51,844 and I'm just grateful. 1257 04:48:52,674 --> 04:48:56,594 >> And just to be clear on the expansion whether it is 1258 04:48:56,594 --> 04:49:01,394 Williamsburg or Bonnybrook, that's going to require some 1259 04:49:01,394 --> 04:49:03,270 staff research and some other things. 1260 04:49:03,270 --> 04:49:09,270 Met will have to come back for a full discussion. 1261 04:49:10,274 --> 04:49:13,171 The only thing you are being asked to do now 1262 04:49:13,171 --> 04:49:16,842 is to prepare for that, you know? 1263 04:49:16,842 --> 04:49:18,634 Gather some information etc. 1264 04:49:18,634 --> 04:49:21,380 And you will have to work with county administration 1265 04:49:21,380 --> 04:49:27,980 for that conversation to occur at some point in the future. 1266 04:49:31,287 --> 04:49:32,393 Commissioner Semrad. 1267 04:49:32,393 --> 04:49:35,393 >> Thank you for your presentation. 1268 04:49:36,414 --> 04:49:38,706 Commissioner Wilson and Commissioner Scott I 1269 04:49:38,706 --> 04:49:41,433 also fully support going down into Williamsburg. 1270 04:49:41,433 --> 04:49:44,358 This is a very healthy CRA. 1271 04:49:44,358 --> 04:49:46,374 Of course we get a lot of commercial 1272 04:49:46,374 --> 04:49:49,331 that is contributed into the tax base as well 1273 04:49:49,331 --> 04:49:52,154 but also to remember that international drive you know 1274 04:49:52,154 --> 04:49:54,974 connects on two different ends so there's 1275 04:49:54,974 --> 04:49:56,124 four different directions. 1276 04:49:56,124 --> 04:49:58,647 North south east and west. 1277 04:49:58,647 --> 04:50:01,440 If you compare this total amount of the CRA 1278 04:50:01,440 --> 04:50:05,258 to like OBT you can see the large discrepancy between that 1279 04:50:05,258 --> 04:50:07,194 and I think that the larger the area 1280 04:50:07,194 --> 04:50:12,274 is that the CRA can be used for, the more residents 1281 04:50:12,274 --> 04:50:16,278 can benefit from hosting 76 million tourists per year 1282 04:50:16,278 --> 04:50:18,458 into our economy so I definitely advocate 1283 04:50:18,458 --> 04:50:20,426 for the extension of this CRA. 1284 04:50:20,426 --> 04:50:25,226 What is your percentage between residential and commercial? 1285 04:50:26,354 --> 04:50:31,771 >> I will look to Kurt for a specific percentage basis but I 1286 04:50:31,771 --> 04:50:35,854 can tell you that most of our area is commercial, 1287 04:50:35,854 --> 04:50:40,346 and the majority of the funds that come in is from 1288 04:50:40,346 --> 04:50:43,346 the business portion of it. 1289 04:50:43,859 --> 04:50:44,359 >> Yeah. 1290 04:50:44,359 --> 04:50:46,874 I don't have an exact percentage but it is mostly 1291 04:50:46,874 --> 04:50:49,274 commercial so actually yeah. 1292 04:50:50,134 --> 04:50:52,134 It's over 90%. 1293 04:50:53,380 --> 04:50:57,340 >> We have one residential single home community and we 1294 04:50:57,340 --> 04:51:00,389 have probably about five apartment complexes within 1295 04:51:00,389 --> 04:51:05,789 the CRA right now, so the bulk is business. 1296 04:51:07,194 --> 04:51:10,144 >> Okay so then you will be in a little bit of a different boat 1297 04:51:10,144 --> 04:51:13,420 than other presentations and other departments. 1298 04:51:13,420 --> 04:51:16,754 Can you explain then to people watching and taxpayers 1299 04:51:16,754 --> 04:51:20,740 because now people will be like why would property tax reform 1300 04:51:20,740 --> 04:51:22,574 impact that if it's 90% business? 1301 04:51:22,574 --> 04:51:27,194 Can you explain how that can still impact your? 1302 04:51:27,194 --> 04:51:31,994 >> The key word -- cra is community development. 1303 04:51:32,310 --> 04:51:35,114 As we talk about our five main focus areas 1304 04:51:35,114 --> 04:51:36,907 while the incoming amount of money 1305 04:51:36,907 --> 04:51:40,178 is not going to change the amount of resources 1306 04:51:40,178 --> 04:51:44,380 and how it needs to be stretched going out will change. 1307 04:51:44,380 --> 04:51:46,894 So when you look at each one of those focus areas 1308 04:51:46,894 --> 04:51:49,894 starting with transportation, right now 1309 04:51:50,209 --> 04:51:52,362 we are progressing into the future 1310 04:51:52,362 --> 04:51:55,340 after almost 30 years working on the CRA. 1311 04:51:55,340 --> 04:51:59,714 We started this with just the transportation initiative 1312 04:51:59,714 --> 04:52:02,575 and we started with just filling extra potholes 1313 04:52:02,575 --> 04:52:06,214 and filling in that extra buffer of maintenance that 1314 04:52:06,214 --> 04:52:08,862 wasn't able to be funded for and we 1315 04:52:08,862 --> 04:52:12,399 are progressing into full streets of Kirkman Road. 1316 04:52:12,399 --> 04:52:15,794 So I hate to see us roll all the way back to 1998 1317 04:52:15,794 --> 04:52:19,174 and go back to just maintaining the roadways 1318 04:52:19,174 --> 04:52:22,814 and having to use our funds for other items 1319 04:52:22,814 --> 04:52:25,994 instead of progressing toward the future. 1320 04:52:25,994 --> 04:52:28,994 Other things include community outreach. 1321 04:52:31,300 --> 04:52:33,700 Our economic development programs 1322 04:52:35,814 --> 04:52:40,698 as you saw our culinary programs may become more auxiliary 1323 04:52:40,698 --> 04:52:45,498 when we have to compete for bigger needs. 1324 04:52:46,987 --> 04:52:49,487 >> So do you think like for example some of your educational 1325 04:52:49,487 --> 04:52:53,687 programs where people learn to speak English, 1326 04:52:53,833 --> 04:52:56,794 that helps them provide better service to our tourists which 1327 04:52:56,794 --> 04:52:59,324 might impact repeat tourists or word of mouth recommendation 1328 04:52:59,324 --> 04:53:02,660 that they got great service while they were in Orlando? 1329 04:53:02,660 --> 04:53:04,614 Do you think that language barrier 1330 04:53:04,614 --> 04:53:09,372 component is important for the CRA to >> Yes. 1331 04:53:09,372 --> 04:53:10,914 The program has been very successful. 1332 04:53:10,914 --> 04:53:13,634 We've done it at least three years now 1333 04:53:13,634 --> 04:53:18,340 and every year we grow at the amount 1334 04:53:18,340 --> 04:53:20,434 of interest and employees. 1335 04:53:20,646 --> 04:53:24,846 So the ESOL program has been found 1336 04:53:27,364 --> 04:53:29,470 to be an important element. 1337 04:53:29,470 --> 04:53:33,160 Our upcoming pilot programs -- we hear over and over from 1338 04:53:33,160 --> 04:53:36,314 the industry that there is not enough people that know 1339 04:53:36,314 --> 04:53:42,914 the culinary and Hvac and that they are able to progress 1340 04:53:43,114 --> 04:53:45,527 into higher positions once they are in their. 1341 04:53:45,527 --> 04:53:48,394 So having those programs within the economic development 1342 04:53:48,394 --> 04:53:53,954 allows the employees to grow, make more money and progress. 1343 04:53:53,954 --> 04:53:59,622 >> And then lastly, do you help keep 76 million tourists safe 1344 04:53:59,622 --> 04:54:03,340 while they visit us through your CRA efforts? 1345 04:54:03,340 --> 04:54:04,114 >> We try. 1346 04:54:04,114 --> 04:54:05,394 >> Do you? 1347 04:54:05,394 --> 04:54:05,894 Yes? 1348 04:54:05,894 --> 04:54:06,394 No? 1349 04:54:06,394 --> 04:54:08,114 I say yes. 1350 04:54:08,114 --> 04:54:09,989 I mean you are doing pedestrian improvements. 1351 04:54:09,989 --> 04:54:11,406 You're doing a bridge improvement. 1352 04:54:11,406 --> 04:54:12,709 You're doing road improvements. 1353 04:54:12,709 --> 04:54:14,876 I think those are all safety features 1354 04:54:14,876 --> 04:54:17,658 and I think it helps keep 76 million tourists safe 1355 04:54:17,658 --> 04:54:21,666 while they visit us and I think that the property tax and 1356 04:54:21,666 --> 04:54:25,540 how that reform happens still impacts commercial businesses 1357 04:54:25,540 --> 04:54:29,303 and it still impacts your bottom line when it comes down to it. 1358 04:54:29,303 --> 04:54:29,803 >> Yes. 1359 04:54:29,803 --> 04:54:31,890 The CRA as well as our business partners 1360 04:54:31,890 --> 04:54:34,734 do a great job with all those pieces. 1361 04:54:34,734 --> 04:54:36,734 >> Thank you. 1362 04:54:39,714 --> 04:54:43,914 >> Commissioner Uribe and then Commissioner Gomez Cordero. 1363 04:54:44,327 --> 04:54:45,778 >> Thank you for the presentation. 1364 04:54:45,778 --> 04:54:47,394 I did have a question. 1365 04:54:47,394 --> 04:54:51,554 I know our CRA is in our unincorporated area. 1366 04:54:51,554 --> 04:54:52,170 Correct? 1367 04:54:52,170 --> 04:54:56,970 Legally have we ever looked at North I-drive . 1368 04:54:59,331 --> 04:55:01,874 It's just so sad when you get to Sand Lake and I drive 1369 04:55:01,874 --> 04:55:03,544 and you make a left going south and you 1370 04:55:03,544 --> 04:55:05,140 make a right going north. 1371 04:55:05,140 --> 04:55:07,104 It's like night and day. 1372 04:55:07,104 --> 04:55:08,554 You know? 1373 04:55:08,554 --> 04:55:12,954 >> I don't have the history on if we have ever reviewed 1374 04:55:12,954 --> 04:55:14,954 integrating the city. 1375 04:55:15,900 --> 04:55:19,200 I know that I drive business district goes into the city 1376 04:55:19,200 --> 04:55:21,340 and has those broader elements but I 1377 04:55:21,340 --> 04:55:26,380 don't have a lot of knowledge on the history of if we've ever 1378 04:55:26,380 --> 04:55:29,100 considered broadening into the city. 1379 04:55:29,100 --> 04:55:29,631 >> Yeah. 1380 04:55:29,631 --> 04:55:32,234 Because I always say when people come and visit clearly 1381 04:55:32,234 --> 04:55:34,768 that is tourist reporter they're not saying oh no I'm 1382 04:55:34,768 --> 04:55:35,716 in the city limit. 1383 04:55:35,716 --> 04:55:37,234 I'm in the county limit. 1384 04:55:37,234 --> 04:55:41,897 What they do see is a different look and a different concern 1385 04:55:41,897 --> 04:55:44,656 also by the hotel levels and things like that. 1386 04:55:44,656 --> 04:55:48,240 So I know when the CRA was created was for transportation. 1387 04:55:48,240 --> 04:55:53,114 I know the home builders have decided eight year 1388 04:55:53,114 --> 04:55:55,874 contract with Vegas so that means they are not coming here. 1389 04:55:55,874 --> 04:55:57,420 They cited transportation. 1390 04:55:57,420 --> 04:55:58,247 Right? 1391 04:55:58,247 --> 04:56:00,494 How realistically you know I hear 1392 04:56:00,494 --> 04:56:04,770 a lot about using these funds for transportation, 1393 04:56:04,770 --> 04:56:07,677 at least in the tourist corridor. 1394 04:56:07,719 --> 04:56:10,700 Does that encompass you all like the B-Line in that area 1395 04:56:10,700 --> 04:56:13,474 also or is it just county roads? 1396 04:56:13,474 --> 04:56:19,474 >> Our boundaries do allow 528 and we are looking at projects 1397 04:56:21,260 --> 04:56:25,682 that either end or begin in our boundaries. 1398 04:56:25,682 --> 04:56:32,282 We are only allowed to put funds within the CRA boundary, 1399 04:56:32,778 --> 04:56:37,714 so the project does have to touch it at the boundaries. 1400 04:56:37,714 --> 04:56:41,594 So project such as the Sunshine corridor we did 1401 04:56:41,594 --> 04:56:46,514 put that in our long range plan, but when 1402 04:56:46,514 --> 04:56:51,267 you look at the current setup, they have it phased. 1403 04:56:51,267 --> 04:56:53,975 For example sunshine corridor three eight 1404 04:56:53,975 --> 04:56:56,360 only takes you from the airport to Orange Avenue 1405 04:56:56,360 --> 04:56:59,634 so we would not Be associated to funding with that but then 1406 04:56:59,634 --> 04:57:04,660 once you progress into phase B and C we have from Orange Avenue 1407 04:57:04,660 --> 04:57:10,700 to the I drive and then leaving I drive to the south down 1408 04:57:10,700 --> 04:57:12,700 to Disney Area. 1409 04:57:12,744 --> 04:57:14,994 >> But you guys technically could make your boundaries 1410 04:57:14,994 --> 04:57:16,754 as good as you want? 1411 04:57:16,754 --> 04:57:18,967 >> As we progress our discussions of the CRA plan 1412 04:57:18,967 --> 04:57:22,389 and how we change the plan and discuss our sunset date you know 1413 04:57:22,389 --> 04:57:26,404 we can look at things like the suggestion to broaden out 1414 04:57:26,404 --> 04:57:29,414 into other neighborhoods and see what you would like to do as far 1415 04:57:29,414 --> 04:57:30,962 as the boundaries. 1416 04:57:30,962 --> 04:57:31,462 >>. 1417 04:57:31,462 --> 04:57:33,400 I mean for the sake of transportation 1418 04:57:33,400 --> 04:57:38,647 and infrastructure I think it is so valuable to see that. 1419 04:57:38,647 --> 04:57:41,536 I thought I read one that said you guys we could even 1420 04:57:41,536 --> 04:57:42,994 go one mile outside of the boundary 1421 04:57:42,994 --> 04:57:46,354 but I didn't know if it was fact or actually very strictly 1422 04:57:46,354 --> 04:57:49,954 prohibited to within the boundary permit 1423 04:57:53,111 --> 04:57:55,194 >> I don't see a legal representative to know that 1424 04:57:55,194 --> 04:57:55,694 part. 1425 04:57:55,694 --> 04:57:57,708 The statutes I've read I didn't see it 1426 04:57:57,708 --> 04:58:01,314 but I don't know all of the statutes in and out. 1427 04:58:01,314 --> 04:58:01,814 >> Okay. 1428 04:58:01,814 --> 04:58:03,814 Thank you. 1429 04:58:09,318 --> 04:58:12,746 >> Commissioner Gomez Cordero and then Commissioner Scott, 1430 04:58:12,746 --> 04:58:14,627 you have the final word. 1431 04:58:14,627 --> 04:58:16,794 >> Thank you for the presentation and everything you 1432 04:58:16,794 --> 04:58:17,294 do. 1433 04:58:17,294 --> 04:58:23,894 I was going to ask exactly the same thing about I-drive 1434 04:58:23,994 --> 04:58:29,138 to see if there would be anything to consider there. 1435 04:58:29,138 --> 04:58:32,660 Is CRA involved in the pedestrian bridge 1436 04:58:32,660 --> 04:58:36,260 in the sand lake and I-Drive? 1437 04:58:38,394 --> 04:58:39,730 >> Yes. 1438 04:58:39,730 --> 04:58:43,350 Pedestrian overpass is a CRA funded project. 1439 04:58:43,350 --> 04:58:45,562 We funded the original conceptual analysis 1440 04:58:45,562 --> 04:58:47,754 and we are currently in design. 1441 04:58:47,754 --> 04:58:51,410 We are funding the first about three quarters 1442 04:58:51,410 --> 04:58:54,727 of the design in last fiscal year 1443 04:58:54,727 --> 04:58:57,794 and then part of the requested funds for next fiscal year 1444 04:58:57,794 --> 04:59:00,794 will finalize out the design. 1445 04:59:00,834 --> 04:59:03,584 From there we will have to decide at a later date 1446 04:59:03,584 --> 04:59:07,585 if we would like to fund the construction. 1447 04:59:07,585 --> 04:59:08,850 >> Okay. 1448 04:59:08,850 --> 04:59:12,885 Thank you and then my other question is, 1449 04:59:13,674 --> 04:59:18,474 are you all going to -- at continuation. 1450 04:59:19,394 --> 04:59:22,794 I have to appreciate that but I just wanted to know 1451 04:59:22,794 --> 04:59:28,194 if it's going to be -- where is it? 1452 04:59:33,666 --> 04:59:36,774 The English speakers of other language. 1453 04:59:36,774 --> 04:59:40,870 Are you going to continue with that program? 1454 04:59:40,870 --> 04:59:44,514 >> We plan to continue as long as employees have an interest. 1455 04:59:44,514 --> 04:59:47,314 What we do is we look for host locations 1456 04:59:47,314 --> 04:59:50,331 and in order to host a location you 1457 04:59:50,331 --> 04:59:54,614 have to have at least 25 employees that would 1458 04:59:54,614 --> 04:59:56,594 like to come to the program. 1459 04:59:56,594 --> 04:59:59,954 That way it allows us to fund one teacher and one 1460 04:59:59,954 --> 05:00:02,774 centralized location and it is open to any 1461 05:00:02,774 --> 05:00:07,573 of the businesses that are within the I-Drive CRA. 1462 05:00:07,573 --> 05:00:10,786 We've had a number of employees in the past to participate. 1463 05:00:10,786 --> 05:00:14,122 Right now we have two employers that have active programs 1464 05:00:14,122 --> 05:00:18,694 and then we are trying to get new host locations. 1465 05:00:18,694 --> 05:00:19,194 >> Okay. 1466 05:00:19,194 --> 05:00:21,194 So thank you. 1467 05:00:22,834 --> 05:00:24,380 >> Commissioner Scott. 1468 05:00:24,380 --> 05:00:28,343 >> I just had a thought when Commissioner Uribe was speaking. 1469 05:00:28,343 --> 05:00:30,391 To her point like some of the business 1470 05:00:30,391 --> 05:00:35,191 owners have a lot of concerns but more 1471 05:00:38,357 --> 05:00:40,826 consistent is what is the electric. 1472 05:00:40,826 --> 05:00:43,904 That has been the most consistent thing 1473 05:00:43,904 --> 05:00:45,754 I've heard over the years is how it looks 1474 05:00:45,754 --> 05:00:48,124 for our businesses versus similar businesses 1475 05:00:48,124 --> 05:00:50,754 or different businesses as you cross the street so I just 1476 05:00:50,754 --> 05:00:53,774 wanted to highlight that for you as well. 1477 05:00:53,774 --> 05:00:55,902 Thank you for bringing that up. 1478 05:00:55,902 --> 05:00:57,449 I appreciate it. 1479 05:00:57,449 --> 05:00:59,449 Move requested action. 1480 05:01:01,354 --> 05:01:02,514 >> Second. 1481 05:01:02,514 --> 05:01:03,165 >> All right. 1482 05:01:03,165 --> 05:01:05,744 We have a motion and a second. 1483 05:01:05,744 --> 05:01:08,330 All in favor let it be known by saying aye. 1484 05:01:08,330 --> 05:01:09,137 Opposed, no. 1485 05:01:09,137 --> 05:01:11,634 Motion passes and it is unanimous. 1486 05:01:11,634 --> 05:01:13,834 Thank you so much for that presentation. 1487 05:01:13,834 --> 05:01:17,394 We will now adjourn as Orange County International Drive 1488 05:01:17,394 --> 05:01:20,394 Community Redevelopment Agency Governing board 1489 05:01:20,434 --> 05:01:22,932 and reconvene as the Board of County Commissioners. 1490 05:01:22,932 --> 05:01:28,474 At this time we are going to invite Mr. Mark tester 1491 05:01:28,474 --> 05:01:31,260 the Executive Director from our convention center 1492 05:01:31,260 --> 05:01:33,754 and Mr. Ray walls the deputy director. 1493 05:01:33,754 --> 05:01:39,754 They're going to come forward to present the next item. 1494 05:01:41,871 --> 05:01:44,814 >> Thank you, mayor and commissioners. 1495 05:01:44,814 --> 05:01:47,214 Great to be here. 1496 05:01:47,922 --> 05:01:50,914 Honored to present the budget on the Convention Center. 1497 05:01:50,914 --> 05:01:52,932 We are going to be reviewing much as all 1498 05:01:52,932 --> 05:01:54,807 the other departments have and I won't really 1499 05:01:54,807 --> 05:01:56,540 be a labor that as you've seen this 1500 05:01:56,540 --> 05:01:57,729 a number of different times. 1501 05:01:57,729 --> 05:02:00,454 The one big difference with us is 1502 05:02:00,454 --> 05:02:02,962 being not part of the general fund. 1503 05:02:02,962 --> 05:02:06,172 Being an enterprise unit of the convention center. 1504 05:02:06,172 --> 05:02:10,136 When you see revenue that is going up that is good. 1505 05:02:10,136 --> 05:02:12,754 So the other stresses in the general fund 1506 05:02:12,754 --> 05:02:14,873 are much different from where they are with us. 1507 05:02:14,873 --> 05:02:18,694 But I will review our organizational chart. 1508 05:02:18,694 --> 05:02:21,714 We have a five member executive team 1509 05:02:21,714 --> 05:02:24,594 that has remained consistent with us. 1510 05:02:24,594 --> 05:02:31,194 We'll be hearing from Ray Walls with TT in a minute. 1511 05:02:32,647 --> 05:02:33,714 Deputy Director. 1512 05:02:33,714 --> 05:02:36,954 I want to recognize Terry Devitt our longest 1513 05:02:36,954 --> 05:02:38,418 director with the convention Center 1514 05:02:38,418 --> 05:02:41,127 not only helping us build project five A 1515 05:02:41,127 --> 05:02:45,726 but was the chairman of the biggest United Way campaign 1516 05:02:45,726 --> 05:02:48,544 as a chairman in this last year so thanks Terry 1517 05:02:48,544 --> 05:02:50,544 for your leadership. 1518 05:02:51,834 --> 05:02:54,818 Our sales and managerial thing remains steady 1519 05:02:54,818 --> 05:02:57,467 but we have Heather Peoples has been promoted 1520 05:02:57,467 --> 05:03:00,791 as one of our new managers with our management team 1521 05:03:00,791 --> 05:03:01,916 with the Convention Center. 1522 05:03:01,916 --> 05:03:04,639 And so we are now going to review 1523 05:03:04,639 --> 05:03:07,218 the revenue that is generated through our facilities. 1524 05:03:07,218 --> 05:03:13,818 Again this is just the revenue generated through our four walls 1525 05:03:15,602 --> 05:03:19,802 if you will and not anything related 1526 05:03:20,911 --> 05:03:24,467 to TDT, which we will review. 1527 05:03:24,467 --> 05:03:27,247 This shows that our business continues to be strong. 1528 05:03:27,247 --> 05:03:31,690 We are proposing an increase of $10.3 million 1529 05:03:31,690 --> 05:03:34,303 in total revenue generated through our facilities 1530 05:03:34,303 --> 05:03:38,610 and for the first time asking for a budget of over $100 1531 05:03:38,610 --> 05:03:39,138 million. 1532 05:03:39,138 --> 05:03:42,340 We really look as a philosophy based on the events 1533 05:03:42,340 --> 05:03:43,400 that we book. 1534 05:03:43,400 --> 05:03:45,898 We are out competing for events around the country. 1535 05:03:45,898 --> 05:03:49,498 We are looking together them, really 1536 05:03:49,874 --> 05:03:53,594 looking 5 to 6 years in advance to put there and have 1537 05:03:53,594 --> 05:03:54,994 a great flexibility. 1538 05:03:54,994 --> 05:03:57,866 So a lot of variables coming when 1539 05:03:57,866 --> 05:04:01,354 we develop a budget on how well they actually will come through. 1540 05:04:01,354 --> 05:04:02,844 I bring that up because currently 1541 05:04:02,844 --> 05:04:09,444 the budget that we have for this fiscal year 26, the events 1542 05:04:10,394 --> 05:04:12,794 are coming incredibly strong. 1543 05:04:12,874 --> 05:04:14,674 We are seeing incredible growth and I 1544 05:04:14,674 --> 05:04:16,940 think that will continue into next year so really 1545 05:04:16,940 --> 05:04:19,700 all of optimism with how well our events do 1546 05:04:19,700 --> 05:04:21,740 once they get on site. 1547 05:04:21,740 --> 05:04:22,574 Getting a lot of variables depending 1548 05:04:22,574 --> 05:04:24,897 on where they are with economies or tariffs 1549 05:04:24,897 --> 05:04:26,355 or other things is when they travel 1550 05:04:26,355 --> 05:04:28,224 but what we've been seeing this year 1551 05:04:28,224 --> 05:04:31,824 is really show after show incredible. 1552 05:04:32,784 --> 05:04:37,584 Incredible how we are really responsible and wary 1553 05:04:39,140 --> 05:04:40,660 of our expenses. 1554 05:04:40,660 --> 05:04:46,600 As you will note, the increase to 7.9% so expenses 1555 05:04:47,802 --> 05:04:50,802 are being outpaced by revenue. 1556 05:04:51,386 --> 05:04:55,586 We are asking for $118 million revenue budget 1557 05:04:55,754 --> 05:04:59,200 and again depending on how events work out 1558 05:04:59,200 --> 05:05:02,394 being a worst case scenario with actually trying 1559 05:05:02,394 --> 05:05:05,634 to spend much less than that we are requesting ten 1560 05:05:05,634 --> 05:05:11,214 additional new FTEs and they will all be hourly employees 1561 05:05:11,214 --> 05:05:13,274 to help service our events. 1562 05:05:13,274 --> 05:05:18,740 Certainly we are seeing events that are longer, 1563 05:05:18,940 --> 05:05:21,694 not only in length but longer. 1564 05:05:22,904 --> 05:05:25,577 Certainly amateur athletics run longer and late. 1565 05:05:25,577 --> 05:05:27,369 We need people to help service those events 1566 05:05:27,369 --> 05:05:29,587 and of course our facilities are aging 1567 05:05:29,587 --> 05:05:31,254 and we need to service and maintain them 1568 05:05:31,254 --> 05:05:32,856 so of the ten events you will see 1569 05:05:32,856 --> 05:05:37,994 we are asking two more for our incredibly busy parking unit. 1570 05:05:37,994 --> 05:05:41,866 Six total insecurity with four security reps 1571 05:05:41,866 --> 05:05:45,954 and two console operators to keep everyone safe and two 1572 05:05:45,954 --> 05:05:50,474 people in trades to help maintain the facility 1573 05:05:50,474 --> 05:05:53,474 with an incredibly busy year. 1574 05:05:53,874 --> 05:05:57,527 One of the things that I've been reflective on now that we 1575 05:05:57,527 --> 05:06:05,327 are here in fiscal 26, some six years from when we were in COVID 1576 05:06:05,362 --> 05:06:08,114 I just remember this budget presentation in October 1577 05:06:08,114 --> 05:06:13,000 or this time in 2020 was much different than we are right now 1578 05:06:13,000 --> 05:06:17,154 and to be sitting here where we are in a fiscal year 1579 05:06:17,154 --> 05:06:19,586 that we are currently going through 1580 05:06:19,586 --> 05:06:24,340 is an incredibly proud moment not only for us 1581 05:06:24,340 --> 05:06:25,712 but for the department and I just 1582 05:06:25,712 --> 05:06:27,504 want to thank all of the incredible support 1583 05:06:27,504 --> 05:06:29,858 that we've gotten through that time. 1584 05:06:29,858 --> 05:06:35,594 One of the things that I think we can answer now in 2026 1585 05:06:35,594 --> 05:06:39,794 is after COVID the question was would 1586 05:06:41,114 --> 05:06:42,900 face to face events come back? 1587 05:06:42,900 --> 05:06:45,666 Would they be relevant with the change on how people are meeting 1588 05:06:45,666 --> 05:06:47,614 and that has been answered certainly 1589 05:06:47,614 --> 05:06:50,527 this past fiscal year that yes. 1590 05:06:50,527 --> 05:06:54,244 Face to face events remain very important. 1591 05:06:54,244 --> 05:06:55,580 They are different. 1592 05:06:55,580 --> 05:06:58,250 I could go on for a long time on the trends. 1593 05:06:58,250 --> 05:06:59,122 They are younger. 1594 05:06:59,122 --> 05:07:01,142 They are more female but the fact of the matter 1595 05:07:01,142 --> 05:07:07,142 is that 40% of our trade shows and convention that market 1596 05:07:07,674 --> 05:07:10,484 is incredibly healthy for us. 1597 05:07:10,484 --> 05:07:12,618 Amateur athletics have continued to boom. 1598 05:07:12,618 --> 05:07:17,754 Has continued to be strong so I think the answer to the question 1599 05:07:17,754 --> 05:07:22,456 is that events have come back and secondly the answer has been 1600 05:07:22,456 --> 05:07:25,634 how are we going to react as a community? 1601 05:07:25,634 --> 05:07:28,174 Are we going to come back from where we were in COVID? 1602 05:07:28,174 --> 05:07:32,700 What decisions and I think I think some of the decisions 1603 05:07:32,700 --> 05:07:35,740 we made 5 or 6 years ago during COVID 1604 05:07:35,740 --> 05:07:40,887 have helped us ensure that we continue to grow our calendar. 1605 05:07:40,887 --> 05:07:43,159 That is certainly what we have seen in 2026. 1606 05:07:43,159 --> 05:07:47,870 As you will note in this fiscal year, 1607 05:07:47,870 --> 05:07:49,834 we are proposing an operating deficit 1608 05:07:49,834 --> 05:07:51,498 and will continue to probably make 1609 05:07:51,498 --> 05:07:54,607 that a strategy that there will be an operating deficit 1610 05:07:54,607 --> 05:08:00,220 but as we are trending this year, this fiscal year that we 1611 05:08:00,220 --> 05:08:01,701 are operating in and not the one we 1612 05:08:01,701 --> 05:08:03,576 are talking about for next year's fiscal year 1613 05:08:03,576 --> 05:08:05,970 but this one that we are in, there's 1614 05:08:05,970 --> 05:08:10,840 very likely not going to be an operating deficit. 1615 05:08:10,840 --> 05:08:13,494 Incredibly happy with where we are 1616 05:08:13,494 --> 05:08:19,494 to build this great calendar to have 2.3 million people coming 1617 05:08:19,634 --> 05:08:21,854 through this but showing up and doing well. 1618 05:08:21,854 --> 05:08:24,482 The events have really done well and we really 1619 05:08:24,482 --> 05:08:27,670 project next year to be also really strong in. 1620 05:08:27,670 --> 05:08:32,400 We also have some more dates locked off for the expansion 1621 05:08:32,400 --> 05:08:36,114 so the numbers will be a little bit stronger but overall 1622 05:08:36,114 --> 05:08:40,825 incredibly optimistic of where we are as a community out 1623 05:08:40,825 --> 05:08:45,514 competing for trade shows, conventions and special events 1624 05:08:45,514 --> 05:08:46,394 across the country. 1625 05:08:46,394 --> 05:08:48,868 Here is an example of some of the big events 1626 05:08:48,868 --> 05:08:50,525 we've got coming in. 1627 05:08:50,525 --> 05:08:54,634 I want to note that one of our great local events 1628 05:08:54,634 --> 05:08:57,247 will be expanding into the West building, 1629 05:08:57,247 --> 05:09:04,194 so using all of the North, South and going into the West building 1630 05:09:04,194 --> 05:09:07,114 so that's a great opportunity for them to continue to grow. 1631 05:09:07,114 --> 05:09:09,730 We have the National Automobile Dealers Association 1632 05:09:09,730 --> 05:09:13,519 for the first time in a long time if not forever coming 1633 05:09:13,519 --> 05:09:17,731 in February and bringing 25,000 people and then in May with 1634 05:09:17,731 --> 05:09:23,131 the return of the triennial Mega manufacturing event plastics 1635 05:09:24,114 --> 05:09:27,736 which runs every three years returning to us this may 1636 05:09:27,736 --> 05:09:29,594 so a very big event. 1637 05:09:29,594 --> 05:09:31,842 Certainly a lot of electric things 1638 05:09:31,842 --> 05:09:38,442 we will be utilizing and a good event for the facility. 1639 05:09:38,994 --> 05:09:43,794 A lot of optimism that revenues are increasing faster 1640 05:09:43,794 --> 05:09:48,394 than expenditures and events are longer and larger. 1641 05:09:48,394 --> 05:09:50,260 Certainly the amateur athletics but we 1642 05:09:50,260 --> 05:09:52,834 still have some inflationary pressures still persist 1643 05:09:52,834 --> 05:09:57,138 and we've got to keep working to make sure that we are spending 1644 05:09:57,138 --> 05:09:58,626 every dollar wisely. 1645 05:09:58,626 --> 05:10:02,826 We continue to do things that want 1646 05:10:03,639 --> 05:10:06,914 to make us a more efficient. 1647 05:10:06,914 --> 05:10:10,230 Our solar array in our north south building 1648 05:10:10,230 --> 05:10:12,994 is now operational and we are seeing savings from that. 1649 05:10:12,994 --> 05:10:17,524 We are also using AI to schedule more efficiently 1650 05:10:17,524 --> 05:10:20,694 and have an equipment tracking software that 1651 05:10:20,694 --> 05:10:26,694 utilizes Wi-Fi to help better take care of our equipment. 1652 05:10:27,340 --> 05:10:29,938 Chairs and things in the facility. 1653 05:10:29,938 --> 05:10:33,207 We continue to prioritize employee recognition 1654 05:10:33,207 --> 05:10:34,340 and satisfaction. 1655 05:10:34,340 --> 05:10:37,938 Thank you for your continued support on the 4% increase 1656 05:10:37,938 --> 05:10:39,660 that our employees will see. 1657 05:10:39,660 --> 05:10:42,860 We continue to meet quarterly with our employees for review 1658 05:10:42,860 --> 05:10:46,314 and for our awards and also for trainings. 1659 05:10:46,314 --> 05:10:51,714 We do that through our hospitality huddle this fall. 1660 05:10:53,154 --> 05:10:57,354 You see a Rosen School of -- 1661 05:11:00,888 --> 05:11:03,874 UCF Rosen school of Hospitality is 1662 05:11:03,874 --> 05:11:09,274 going to publish a report they did this fall. 1663 05:11:10,680 --> 05:11:12,924 We have a number of plans and most 1664 05:11:12,924 --> 05:11:14,917 of the ones that I'm going to review 1665 05:11:14,917 --> 05:11:18,834 are multi-year plans that you have either 1666 05:11:18,834 --> 05:11:21,474 seen in last year's budget or will continue 1667 05:11:21,474 --> 05:11:26,450 to see over the next year but we have a total of $319 million. 1668 05:11:26,450 --> 05:11:33,154 230th that is for the Grand Concourse budget five a that we 1669 05:11:33,154 --> 05:11:38,306 currently have underway and then 89.4 for the current north south 1670 05:11:38,306 --> 05:11:39,130 and west buildings. 1671 05:11:39,130 --> 05:11:42,314 One of the major projects we have in a multi-year that we are 1672 05:11:42,314 --> 05:11:44,954 continuing to work through as we have availability 1673 05:11:44,954 --> 05:11:47,874 is the renovation on the North South meeting rooms. 1674 05:11:47,874 --> 05:11:51,974 We will be spending a total of 15.7 1675 05:11:51,974 --> 05:11:55,744 in this next year's fiscal budget on that project. 1676 05:11:55,744 --> 05:11:59,306 Another multi-year project is to renovate all of our food courts 1677 05:11:59,306 --> 05:12:02,614 and restaurants in our North South building 1678 05:12:02,614 --> 05:12:08,234 and we will be spending 5.4 in our next year fiscal capital 1679 05:12:08,234 --> 05:12:09,866 improvement budget. 1680 05:12:09,866 --> 05:12:13,930 Next is a project we recently had approved 1681 05:12:13,930 --> 05:12:16,964 that will be also multi-year as we have availability 1682 05:12:16,964 --> 05:12:22,682 is for the renovation of the 79 restrooms in our North South 1683 05:12:22,682 --> 05:12:26,282 building with 7.8 million for next year. 1684 05:12:27,860 --> 05:12:31,000 Another one we have been doing will happen for years to come 1685 05:12:31,000 --> 05:12:33,764 and years before is our escalator 1686 05:12:33,764 --> 05:12:38,207 as we replace escalators and elevators in both buildings 1687 05:12:38,207 --> 05:12:40,218 and we will be spending 6.1. 1688 05:12:40,218 --> 05:12:46,434 Of course we will be doing work as availability is there for us. 1689 05:12:46,434 --> 05:12:50,934 Our major CIP project is the Grand Concourse. 1690 05:12:50,934 --> 05:12:55,314 You all recall that you approved our guaranteed maximum 1691 05:12:55,314 --> 05:13:00,714 price for construction in March and we began construction 1692 05:13:01,574 --> 05:13:03,274 in earnest in April. 1693 05:13:03,274 --> 05:13:09,540 They are doing piles as we speak and the foundations are 1694 05:13:09,540 --> 05:13:12,634 scheduled to be completed this fall, 1695 05:13:12,634 --> 05:13:17,434 and we remain on budget and on schedule. 1696 05:13:17,914 --> 05:13:22,114 In summary again just things are positive. 1697 05:13:22,394 --> 05:13:27,794 We continue to work hard in renovating our building 1698 05:13:29,340 --> 05:13:32,807 and consignment with the opening of the Grand Concourse lobby. 1699 05:13:32,807 --> 05:13:38,207 Now we will turn it over to Ray Walls. 1700 05:13:39,340 --> 05:13:42,174 >> Thanks Mark and thanks commissioners chair McNamara. 1701 05:13:42,174 --> 05:13:43,254 County administrator. 1702 05:13:43,254 --> 05:13:43,754 Controller. 1703 05:13:43,754 --> 05:13:45,794 It's good to be here today to talk to you 1704 05:13:45,794 --> 05:13:49,234 about a subject that hasn't gotten much discussion lately. 1705 05:13:49,234 --> 05:13:51,113 Tourist Development tax. 1706 05:13:51,113 --> 05:13:55,802 I'll try to be swift like my friend Tim Armstrong was today 1707 05:13:55,802 --> 05:13:59,534 but just quickly in terms of background for the public who 1708 05:13:59,534 --> 05:14:02,294 are watching in case they're not aware, 1709 05:14:02,294 --> 05:14:05,154 the tourist development tax is authorized 1710 05:14:05,154 --> 05:14:07,154 by Florida Statute 125.0104. 1711 05:14:08,287 --> 05:14:11,740 It is a tax on short term rentals of six months or less 1712 05:14:11,740 --> 05:14:17,164 and its uses are limited in that statute with few exceptions 1713 05:14:17,164 --> 05:14:20,367 those related purposes you see on the screen. 1714 05:14:20,367 --> 05:14:21,420 Convention Centers. 1715 05:14:21,420 --> 05:14:23,154 Tourism promotion. 1716 05:14:23,154 --> 05:14:25,906 Sporting and Arts and other uses that attract visitors 1717 05:14:25,906 --> 05:14:26,904 to the county. 1718 05:14:26,904 --> 05:14:28,594 Orange County's Levy is 6%. 1719 05:14:28,594 --> 05:14:32,388 It was enacted by voters back in 1978 at 2% 1720 05:14:32,388 --> 05:14:36,414 and it has been increased four times since then by this board. 1721 05:14:36,414 --> 05:14:39,434 There is just as a preemptive answer 1722 05:14:39,434 --> 05:14:44,234 to the question, a prohibition on general revenues 1723 05:14:44,764 --> 05:14:47,714 being used at all for the Convention Center. 1724 05:14:47,714 --> 05:14:51,670 So no property tax no sales tax. 1725 05:14:51,670 --> 05:14:52,994 Nothing of that kind can actually 1726 05:14:52,994 --> 05:14:55,554 go toward the operation of the convention center 1727 05:14:55,554 --> 05:14:58,466 so I just wanted to mention that while we were on that slide. 1728 05:14:58,466 --> 05:15:02,940 The Orange County uses of the tourist development tax 1729 05:15:02,940 --> 05:15:06,494 are split between the six pennies in different ways. 1730 05:15:06,494 --> 05:15:08,404 Those first four pennies are governed 1731 05:15:08,404 --> 05:15:11,122 by the tourist development plan as suggested by law 1732 05:15:11,122 --> 05:15:13,364 or required by law. 1733 05:15:13,364 --> 05:15:15,764 The convention Center Operations, 1734 05:15:17,737 --> 05:15:19,430 it's dead end capital. 1735 05:15:19,430 --> 05:15:22,574 The city venues tourism promotion arts and film 1736 05:15:22,574 --> 05:15:25,794 are all included in those first four pennies. 1737 05:15:25,794 --> 05:15:28,820 The fifth cent is used just for debt payments 1738 05:15:28,820 --> 05:15:31,724 and the sixth penny is split by ordinance. 1739 05:15:31,724 --> 05:15:36,900 50% for tourism promotion and 50% for the Kia Center debt 1740 05:15:36,900 --> 05:15:39,280 and renovations that were recently approved. 1741 05:15:39,280 --> 05:15:41,740 I do show this slide every year. 1742 05:15:41,740 --> 05:15:45,634 I tell you it is my favorite chart every year because it is. 1743 05:15:45,634 --> 05:15:48,367 When you look at this chart that we borrow from the Comptroller's 1744 05:15:48,367 --> 05:15:52,567 office that shows TDT collections over time 1745 05:15:54,162 --> 05:15:57,740 you can see the trajectory and growth of overnight visitation 1746 05:15:57,740 --> 05:16:00,740 in Orange County, and particularly 1747 05:16:01,420 --> 05:16:05,122 in the last 10 to 15 years the trajectory 1748 05:16:05,122 --> 05:16:10,287 has really shot up just to show how quickly things have gone 1749 05:16:10,287 --> 05:16:12,864 well here with a couple blips there obviously 1750 05:16:12,864 --> 05:16:15,826 during COVID and during the 2009 housing crash 1751 05:16:15,826 --> 05:16:21,337 but other than that, the revenue source has done well. 1752 05:16:21,337 --> 05:16:22,754 The other reason I like this chart 1753 05:16:22,754 --> 05:16:24,534 is that it is an indicator of other things 1754 05:16:24,534 --> 05:16:28,159 that are going on that you can't necessarily see from the chart 1755 05:16:28,159 --> 05:16:33,498 but it is a marker of all of the other things that are happening 1756 05:16:33,498 --> 05:16:36,434 in terms of economic impact and direct money 1757 05:16:36,434 --> 05:16:39,214 flowing into the county because everybody who pays this tourist 1758 05:16:39,214 --> 05:16:43,890 development tax also pays 6.5% sales tax on their room 1759 05:16:43,890 --> 05:16:45,642 stays when they come here whether they 1760 05:16:45,642 --> 05:16:49,490 are staying in a hotel or Airbnb or something like that. 1761 05:16:49,490 --> 05:16:51,885 So that is additional money coming in on top 1762 05:16:51,885 --> 05:16:53,534 of the money on this chart. 1763 05:16:53,534 --> 05:16:59,104 In addition to that all of the properties that those people 1764 05:16:59,104 --> 05:17:02,234 stay at pay property taxes and non homesteaded 1765 05:17:02,234 --> 05:17:04,730 property taxes so again hotels. 1766 05:17:04,730 --> 05:17:05,378 Airbnbs. 1767 05:17:05,378 --> 05:17:08,910 All of those property taxes are coming in 1768 05:17:08,910 --> 05:17:09,714 as a result of this overnight stay 1769 05:17:09,714 --> 05:17:12,694 so this chart tells a bigger story beyond just TDT. 1770 05:17:12,694 --> 05:17:16,634 I can go on and on about the economic impact 1771 05:17:16,634 --> 05:17:20,137 in terms of jobs and business and all those types of things 1772 05:17:20,137 --> 05:17:22,540 that this chart can indicate and talk about. 1773 05:17:22,540 --> 05:17:26,820 In terms of the revenue budget that we 1774 05:17:26,820 --> 05:17:28,287 are going to present for next year, 1775 05:17:28,287 --> 05:17:34,287 first let me talk about the fiscal year 26 TDT revenue 1776 05:17:37,554 --> 05:17:38,540 budget. 1777 05:17:38,540 --> 05:17:40,954 When I came and talked to you all last year in July 1778 05:17:40,954 --> 05:17:44,658 we set that budget at $360 million for this year. 1779 05:17:44,658 --> 05:17:49,120 In January this year we came back and moved that budget up 1780 05:17:49,120 --> 05:17:51,120 to 385 million. 1781 05:17:51,300 --> 05:17:53,934 Collections through May which the comptroller just 1782 05:17:53,934 --> 05:17:59,788 announced the other day we're at 291 million for the year so far. 1783 05:17:59,788 --> 05:18:04,607 That is 26 million or almost 10% ahead of last year's figures 1784 05:18:04,607 --> 05:18:06,529 and so if you do the math on that 1785 05:18:06,529 --> 05:18:10,249 and you know we didn't add any more to the next one. 1786 05:18:10,249 --> 05:18:12,499 Everything just comes in flat for the rest of the year 1787 05:18:12,499 --> 05:18:16,870 you know we would be well over $400 million for the year 1788 05:18:16,870 --> 05:18:18,774 and so in a few weeks you're going 1789 05:18:18,774 --> 05:18:21,654 to see a budget amendment come to you that actually increases 1790 05:18:21,654 --> 05:18:24,343 this year's budget to over 400 million 1791 05:18:24,343 --> 05:18:28,442 so quick moving revenue and doing quite well here 1792 05:18:28,442 --> 05:18:32,642 just because of increased visitation and increased 1793 05:18:33,194 --> 05:18:35,447 convention visitation and all the things going on 1794 05:18:35,447 --> 05:18:36,474 in our community. 1795 05:18:36,474 --> 05:18:40,364 It is all coming together and really 1796 05:18:40,364 --> 05:18:45,764 driving the visitation here and this TDT revenue ultimately. 1797 05:18:52,719 --> 05:18:56,142 Fiscal year 27 we are continuing our approach on budgeting 1798 05:18:56,142 --> 05:18:57,218 at 400 million. 1799 05:18:57,218 --> 05:19:00,300 We will monitor what happens and if we need to update it 1800 05:19:00,300 --> 05:19:02,674 we will come back and ask for your permission 1801 05:19:02,674 --> 05:19:05,770 to amend the budget and increase it. 1802 05:19:05,770 --> 05:19:08,574 Let me just quickly walk you through the proposed expenditure 1803 05:19:08,574 --> 05:19:09,845 budget for next year. 1804 05:19:09,845 --> 05:19:12,562 You will see it is at 628.9 million. 1805 05:19:12,562 --> 05:19:18,227 A large chunk of that -- let me preface this by saying 1806 05:19:18,227 --> 05:19:20,727 there's going to be some changes to this budget as well over 1807 05:19:20,727 --> 05:19:21,894 the next few weeks. 1808 05:19:21,894 --> 05:19:24,940 Both this year and next year. 1809 05:19:24,940 --> 05:19:31,294 Because we just closed on bonds for the 5A project and up 1810 05:19:32,887 --> 05:19:40,870 to this point we've been funding the 5A project with cash from 1811 05:19:40,592 --> 05:19:41,990 the TDT. 1812 05:19:41,990 --> 05:19:45,332 I want to make you aware of that because the number 1813 05:19:45,332 --> 05:19:47,624 you will see when you see the final budget in September 1814 05:19:47,624 --> 05:19:48,762 will be slightly different. 1815 05:19:48,762 --> 05:19:53,474 So the debt service budget is at 56.5 million. 1816 05:19:53,474 --> 05:19:58,547 That is stable currently with where it was last year. 1817 05:19:58,547 --> 05:20:04,547 Has that number stands now it includes mostly city venues. 1818 05:20:04,834 --> 05:20:06,167 Debt remaining in it. 1819 05:20:06,167 --> 05:20:09,654 It is set to mature in 2026 however as I mentioned 1820 05:20:09,654 --> 05:20:13,694 we just closed on 300 million of new bond funds for the five A 1821 05:20:13,694 --> 05:20:15,588 project so it's going to push that number up 1822 05:20:15,588 --> 05:20:20,940 just a little bit so I don't have the number saved in my mind 1823 05:20:20,940 --> 05:20:24,374 but it is 10 to 12 million that you will see go up in terms 1824 05:20:24,374 --> 05:20:26,826 of the debt service number next year 1825 05:20:26,826 --> 05:20:29,394 but included in that also was some refinancing 1826 05:20:29,394 --> 05:20:32,698 of some existing debt that actually lowered our interest 1827 05:20:32,698 --> 05:20:35,754 rate and will lower the bond payments on the existing debt. 1828 05:20:35,754 --> 05:20:42,674 So all of that will get Trued up here in the next few weeks. 1829 05:20:42,674 --> 05:20:45,904 In terms of the convention center expansion 1830 05:20:45,904 --> 05:20:48,410 Mark mentioned the uses there. 1831 05:20:48,410 --> 05:20:53,810 230 million for the convention center 5A project that's going 1832 05:20:55,200 --> 05:21:00,354 to revert to being paid for out of bonds pretty soon. 1833 05:21:00,354 --> 05:21:03,287 The remaining piece will be ongoing renovations 1834 05:21:03,287 --> 05:21:05,234 and small equipment purchases. 1835 05:21:05,234 --> 05:21:07,794 Things like computers and vehicles. 1836 05:21:07,794 --> 05:21:10,432 The visitor Orlando funding is going 1837 05:21:10,432 --> 05:21:13,360 to be set at a $115 million budget next year. 1838 05:21:13,360 --> 05:21:18,760 That is the 30% of TDT collections less than 5 million 1839 05:21:22,850 --> 05:21:27,194 for Arc grants that gets taken out of that. 1840 05:21:27,194 --> 05:21:30,389 Included is $10 million for sports incentive payments. 1841 05:21:30,389 --> 05:21:32,954 So the net visit Orlando funding for next year 1842 05:21:32,954 --> 05:21:37,160 for marketing purposes will be $105 million budget Paramount 1843 05:21:37,160 --> 05:21:41,754 the city venue's payment is going up to 60.3 million 1844 05:21:41,754 --> 05:21:42,794 next year. 1845 05:21:42,794 --> 05:21:46,714 27 million of that is the Camping World Stadium 1846 05:21:46,714 --> 05:21:49,450 payment for their renovation that was most recently approved 1847 05:21:49,450 --> 05:21:53,986 so the city issued that debt and the county 1848 05:21:53,986 --> 05:21:56,434 gives them money to make payments for that debt 1849 05:21:56,434 --> 05:21:58,194 and so that is what that 27 million 1850 05:21:58,194 --> 05:22:03,239 is and the other piece is the 33.3 million for the Kia Center 1851 05:22:03,239 --> 05:22:07,194 which is 50% of the sixth penny that I mentioned 1852 05:22:07,194 --> 05:22:09,874 which will go for renovations and the final payment 1853 05:22:09,874 --> 05:22:11,914 up there of the construction debt there. 1854 05:22:11,914 --> 05:22:15,750 The application review committee budget includes 20.1 million 1855 05:22:15,750 --> 05:22:18,834 and this is just the amount we anticipate 1856 05:22:18,834 --> 05:22:23,560 spending on existing grants that have been approved by the Board 1857 05:22:23,560 --> 05:22:26,554 and so that number may fluctuate up or down based 1858 05:22:26,554 --> 05:22:29,554 on what actually happens there. 1859 05:22:30,154 --> 05:22:32,554 The convention center operations. 1860 05:22:32,654 --> 05:22:35,634 This is the subsidy that Mark mentioned. 1861 05:22:35,634 --> 05:22:40,874 As you can see, we have 17.4 million budgeted for this year 1862 05:22:40,874 --> 05:22:44,250 and 16.2 million budgeted for next year and it says if needed. 1863 05:22:44,250 --> 05:22:47,738 There is a strong likelihood we won't need any of that money 1864 05:22:47,738 --> 05:22:49,738 this year. 1865 05:22:50,314 --> 05:22:54,254 As of the controller's May financial statement, 1866 05:22:54,254 --> 05:22:58,734 we were over $10 million to the positive so far this year 1867 05:22:58,734 --> 05:23:01,607 so we are going to work on keeping that number as 1868 05:23:01,607 --> 05:23:05,807 high as possible, but this budget obviously 1869 05:23:07,114 --> 05:23:10,460 reflects what would happen if we needed it. 1870 05:23:10,460 --> 05:23:14,187 The arts budget is 5% of the first four pennies 1871 05:23:14,187 --> 05:23:15,398 plus $2.5 million. 1872 05:23:15,398 --> 05:23:20,340 That is a fixed amount so that is all done by formula 1873 05:23:20,340 --> 05:23:23,306 and this is for cultural facilities grants that 1874 05:23:23,306 --> 05:23:25,810 get managed by United Arts. 1875 05:23:25,810 --> 05:23:31,174 The TDT is a conglomeration of several things. $10 million 1876 05:23:31,174 --> 05:23:35,750 of it is UCF Stadium renovations which is 10 million a year 1877 05:23:35,750 --> 05:23:37,654 until they reach $90 million. 1878 05:23:37,654 --> 05:23:40,974 About $750,000 of this will be operating funding 1879 05:23:40,974 --> 05:23:44,900 for the Greater Orlando Sports Commission and the remainder is 1880 05:23:44,900 --> 05:23:47,203 accounting for the sports incentive payments, 1881 05:23:47,203 --> 05:23:50,134 which could fluctuate up or down. 1882 05:23:50,134 --> 05:23:55,534 The History Center and other is $5 million next year. 1883 05:24:00,514 --> 05:24:03,514 Film incentive payments are $5 million. 1884 05:24:04,799 --> 05:24:08,498 This was recently approved for five years for 25 million. 1885 05:24:08,498 --> 05:24:11,634 This year was the first year. 1886 05:24:11,634 --> 05:24:15,314 Next year is the second year of the 5 million. 1887 05:24:15,314 --> 05:24:21,314 And just to end on talking about the reserves here, 1888 05:24:22,674 --> 05:24:27,788 this chart shows reserves over time since April of 2017. 1889 05:24:27,788 --> 05:24:31,394 You can see that we have added the stabilization 1890 05:24:31,394 --> 05:24:34,454 target that the Comptroller recommended of 300 million. 1891 05:24:34,454 --> 05:24:39,720 That is that top line permit that top yellow creamy line 1892 05:24:39,720 --> 05:24:40,874 we will call it. 1893 05:24:40,874 --> 05:24:44,434 But you can see that we are well above that line and today as 1894 05:24:44,434 --> 05:24:47,214 of the last financial statements, 1895 05:24:47,214 --> 05:24:51,425 we are sitting at about $430 million in reserves. 1896 05:24:51,425 --> 05:24:53,340 So healthy there. 1897 05:24:53,340 --> 05:24:56,634 In summary the TDT revenue budget 1898 05:24:57,387 --> 05:24:59,410 is coming in strong at 400 million. 1899 05:24:59,410 --> 05:25:02,234 We're going to continue to review that for possible updates 1900 05:25:02,234 --> 05:25:03,394 in January. 1901 05:25:03,394 --> 05:25:05,346 Obviously the expenditure budget covers 1902 05:25:05,346 --> 05:25:07,940 all required and approved expenditures 1903 05:25:07,940 --> 05:25:09,714 from the Board of County Commissioners 1904 05:25:09,714 --> 05:25:11,740 and reserves remain funded in excess 1905 05:25:11,740 --> 05:25:13,644 of targets per so Mark and I will 1906 05:25:13,644 --> 05:25:17,300 be available for any questions you might have. 1907 05:25:17,300 --> 05:25:19,300 >> All right. 1908 05:25:22,194 --> 05:25:25,707 We will move to the Q&A part here. 1909 05:25:25,707 --> 05:25:30,507 We are going to start with Commissioner Semrad. 1910 05:25:32,634 --> 05:25:33,514 >> Hi. 1911 05:25:33,514 --> 05:25:36,514 Thank you for the presentation. 1912 05:25:38,434 --> 05:25:40,207 Sorry, mayor. 1913 05:25:40,207 --> 05:25:44,406 You cut me a little off guard. 1914 05:25:44,406 --> 05:25:45,614 I'm a little discombobulated. 1915 05:25:45,614 --> 05:25:50,740 When is that I know we haven't been talking about TDT 1916 05:25:50,740 --> 05:25:57,420 but it's about to come because July 21st is the first TDT task 1917 05:25:57,420 --> 05:26:00,282 force meeting so it will kick up in the news. 1918 05:26:00,282 --> 05:26:02,424 We've been reviewing the convention center budget 1919 05:26:02,424 --> 05:26:07,824 and in 2025 in capital projects, you had like 356 million. 1920 05:26:12,182 --> 05:26:18,182 Did any of that go towards the convention center expansion? 1921 05:26:18,474 --> 05:26:20,874 Can you explain that? 1922 05:26:22,442 --> 05:26:26,714 Because I'm having a hard time understanding the operational 1923 05:26:26,714 --> 05:26:32,325 budget when you receive a TDT award for which was like a half 1924 05:26:32,325 --> 05:26:34,734 $1 billion how then it is also still -- 1925 05:26:34,734 --> 05:26:38,494 because then it seems like you are getting a lot of TDT 1926 05:26:38,494 --> 05:26:43,894 because you are getting TDT into your capital budget 1927 05:26:44,616 --> 05:26:49,322 as well as into TDT in the amount of half a billion 1928 05:26:49,322 --> 05:26:52,274 so I'm having a hard time understanding the numbers. 1929 05:26:52,274 --> 05:26:52,845 >> Right. 1930 05:26:52,845 --> 05:26:56,340 So capital is not a factor in the operating subsidy piece. 1931 05:26:56,340 --> 05:26:58,744 That is separate because you're investing capital. 1932 05:26:58,744 --> 05:27:02,260 It becomes an asset and you have something for that investment. 1933 05:27:02,260 --> 05:27:08,260 In terms of the 2026 budget, it does include expansion money. 1934 05:27:09,354 --> 05:27:11,754 >> This was the 2025 one. 1935 05:27:12,234 --> 05:27:12,887 >> Yes. 1936 05:27:12,887 --> 05:27:13,387 Same. 1937 05:27:13,387 --> 05:27:15,460 And that goes back to what I mentioned. 1938 05:27:15,460 --> 05:27:17,956 We just issued the debt for the project. 1939 05:27:17,956 --> 05:27:21,130 That debt allows us to go back and reimburse ourselves 1940 05:27:21,130 --> 05:27:23,810 for money that has already been spent 1941 05:27:23,810 --> 05:27:25,234 since the beginning of the project 1942 05:27:25,234 --> 05:27:27,944 so there is going to be some accounting that happens 1943 05:27:27,944 --> 05:27:30,140 to move that money around. 1944 05:27:30,140 --> 05:27:33,506 >> I understand that but if you have that fluff in your budget 1945 05:27:33,506 --> 05:27:36,374 to spot yourself that cash in advance, 1946 05:27:36,374 --> 05:27:39,666 it seems like you've got too much money because the rest 1947 05:27:39,666 --> 05:27:45,660 of the departments don't have that type of cushion. 1948 05:27:47,804 --> 05:27:50,397 >> When the board approved the funding that then showed up 1949 05:27:50,397 --> 05:27:52,797 in the commissioner's budget. 1950 05:27:53,394 --> 05:27:56,690 It's there in the budget and then they go through. 1951 05:27:56,690 --> 05:27:59,150 It's showing the total amount. 1952 05:27:59,150 --> 05:28:03,154 They haven't gotten the total amount (Indistinct) 1953 05:28:03,154 --> 05:28:06,754 the bond issues and so forth but it's 1954 05:28:06,754 --> 05:28:11,767 just showing the total amount that in the time 1955 05:28:11,767 --> 05:28:17,167 the board approved $560 million it was not $560 million there. 1956 05:28:18,210 --> 05:28:21,794 So what you are seeing is just that total number. 1957 05:28:21,794 --> 05:28:24,942 You are not saying the money. 1958 05:28:24,942 --> 05:28:25,442 >> Okay. 1959 05:28:25,442 --> 05:28:30,194 I'll follow up with you Byron, just so I understand how 1960 05:28:30,194 --> 05:28:31,554 that all works. 1961 05:28:31,554 --> 05:28:33,554 I've asked each department head to talk 1962 05:28:33,554 --> 05:28:35,954 about how the property tax reform might 1963 05:28:35,954 --> 05:28:37,379 impact your operations. 1964 05:28:37,379 --> 05:28:39,779 Could you explain that? 1965 05:28:43,613 --> 05:28:50,610 >> We do rely on TDT, so as long as TDT remains strong we will 1966 05:28:50,610 --> 05:28:51,927 continue to do well. 1967 05:28:51,927 --> 05:28:54,100 >> Thank you Mark but I think you would agree that 1968 05:28:54,100 --> 05:28:59,746 your success depends on the police being able to respond, 1969 05:28:59,746 --> 05:29:02,740 fire being able to respond. 1970 05:29:02,740 --> 05:29:03,474 Emergency services. 1971 05:29:03,474 --> 05:29:05,154 Transportation links right? 1972 05:29:05,154 --> 05:29:07,994 Like all those macro environments. 1973 05:29:07,994 --> 05:29:11,114 >> We operate with the entire community certainly. 1974 05:29:11,114 --> 05:29:16,274 >> So all of those departments, they have indicated things like 1975 05:29:16,274 --> 05:29:19,708 the property tax reform can result in more slum and blight 1976 05:29:19,708 --> 05:29:20,687 in our community. 1977 05:29:20,687 --> 05:29:24,340 They've indicated that property tax reform can 1978 05:29:24,340 --> 05:29:27,314 impact the types of calls that the police would 1979 05:29:27,314 --> 05:29:29,207 be able to respond to. 1980 05:29:29,207 --> 05:29:33,280 It has indicated that it has impacts 1981 05:29:33,280 --> 05:29:35,414 in to our bridge maintenance where 1982 05:29:35,414 --> 05:29:37,314 they could collapse if they don't 1983 05:29:37,314 --> 05:29:39,714 get the proper maintenance. 1984 05:29:40,674 --> 05:29:44,814 We've talked about reduction to juvenile delinquency programs 1985 05:29:44,814 --> 05:29:47,338 and not being able to fund them resulting 1986 05:29:47,338 --> 05:29:49,340 in an increase in crime. 1987 05:29:49,340 --> 05:29:53,400 So I think that the property tax reform dramatically 1988 05:29:53,400 --> 05:29:58,404 impacts in the most negative sense, our macro economy. 1989 05:29:59,810 --> 05:30:02,130 Would you agree with that? 1990 05:30:02,130 --> 05:30:05,306 That that would impact on the success of your operations? 1991 05:30:05,306 --> 05:30:07,514 >> Certainly if any of those things happened that you 1992 05:30:07,514 --> 05:30:12,314 described it would certainly affect our ability (Indistinct). 1993 05:30:14,154 --> 05:30:17,394 >> It's so concerning because we are a tourism destination 1994 05:30:17,394 --> 05:30:20,274 and with that being said if property tax reform happens 1995 05:30:20,274 --> 05:30:23,840 and it is polling right now at about 64% in the state 1996 05:30:23,840 --> 05:30:26,460 of Florida and it is really concerning and we do have 1997 05:30:26,460 --> 05:30:29,674 a tourism economy and so many workers that depend on tourism 1998 05:30:29,674 --> 05:30:32,474 economy to work for them so they can feed their families 1999 05:30:32,474 --> 05:30:35,474 and house their families from . 2000 05:30:40,756 --> 05:30:45,169 So Mark, would you agree that if this goes forward 2001 05:30:45,169 --> 05:30:47,754 in all of the detrimental things that can happen to everything 2002 05:30:47,754 --> 05:30:51,214 that then maybe we should look at TDT reform 2003 05:30:51,214 --> 05:30:54,220 as well with property tax so we can 2004 05:30:54,220 --> 05:30:59,123 support those services to the benefit of our tourists and >> 2005 05:30:59,123 --> 05:31:00,623 would say our ability to collaborate 2006 05:31:00,623 --> 05:31:02,121 has helped us be super successful. 2007 05:31:02,121 --> 05:31:04,714 We have done that so well in our community 2008 05:31:04,714 --> 05:31:07,788 that if we continue to do that we should be okay. 2009 05:31:07,788 --> 05:31:10,740 But any of your issues that you mentioned 2010 05:31:10,740 --> 05:31:13,674 occur, that certainly could affect us. 2011 05:31:14,814 --> 05:31:16,814 Certainly could. 2012 05:31:16,887 --> 05:31:22,890 >> How would we then go about the process to open up that TDT 2013 05:31:22,890 --> 05:31:25,500 so that we could fund emergency services and transportation, 2014 05:31:25,500 --> 05:31:29,600 which are important pillars of infrastructure 2015 05:31:29,600 --> 05:31:30,162 for our destination? 2016 05:31:30,162 --> 05:31:33,554 How could we do that then? 2017 05:31:33,554 --> 05:31:35,674 >> I'm not an expert in tax. 2018 05:31:35,674 --> 05:31:39,440 I'm an expert in running a convention center. 2019 05:31:39,440 --> 05:31:39,940 >> Yeah. 2020 05:31:39,940 --> 05:31:42,660 I think is an industry partner we would really 2021 05:31:42,660 --> 05:31:43,657 need your support to make that happen 2022 05:31:43,657 --> 05:31:46,593 for people like from the convention center to say hey. 2023 05:31:46,593 --> 05:31:48,817 If this property tax reform happens 2024 05:31:48,817 --> 05:31:51,441 we have some pillars in our community 2025 05:31:51,441 --> 05:31:54,740 that need funding to support the tourism population 2026 05:31:54,740 --> 05:32:01,590 and we need to open up that TDT fund to actually help. 2027 05:32:01,590 --> 05:32:05,494 >> I think our community -- >> Let me just jump in here. 2028 05:32:05,494 --> 05:32:10,294 To our staff, remember they can only educate. 2029 05:32:10,486 --> 05:32:13,644 They cannot advocate so be careful about asking them 2030 05:32:13,644 --> 05:32:15,914 questions that puts them in a position where 2031 05:32:15,914 --> 05:32:17,914 they're advocating. 2032 05:32:18,340 --> 05:32:20,340 >> You're right, mayor. 2033 05:32:20,914 --> 05:32:22,914 I'm sorry, Mark. 2034 05:32:25,740 --> 05:32:27,442 >> His job today is to provide information. 2035 05:32:27,442 --> 05:32:29,734 >> I just think it's really important to emphasize that 2036 05:32:29,734 --> 05:32:32,603 our macro environment that is supported by all of these great 2037 05:32:32,603 --> 05:32:36,318 departments that we've heard from for the last 16 hours, 2038 05:32:36,318 --> 05:32:41,576 our tourism economy depends on every single one of them to be 2039 05:32:41,576 --> 05:32:44,340 functioning and flourishing and providing the best services 2040 05:32:44,340 --> 05:32:46,936 for not just our residents but the tourists as well and we are 2041 05:32:46,936 --> 05:32:49,802 in trouble if the property tax reform happens to support 2042 05:32:49,802 --> 05:32:52,646 our local tourism economy so I think it's just very important 2043 05:32:52,646 --> 05:32:53,884 to emphasize. 2044 05:32:53,884 --> 05:32:55,884 Thank you, Mayor. 2045 05:32:57,714 --> 05:32:58,494 >> All right. 2046 05:32:58,494 --> 05:32:59,834 Commissioner Scott. 2047 05:32:59,834 --> 05:33:01,593 >> Thank you for your presentation. 2048 05:33:01,593 --> 05:33:05,314 And the expansion of the Convention center 2049 05:33:05,314 --> 05:33:07,131 when we approved those funds you guys 2050 05:33:07,131 --> 05:33:09,114 had to do some value engineering. 2051 05:33:09,114 --> 05:33:11,134 Can you summarize what that was like 2052 05:33:11,134 --> 05:33:15,340 and how you did the cost cutting to be more efficient? 2053 05:33:15,340 --> 05:33:20,364 >> In project 5A there were a number of different areas we had 2054 05:33:20,364 --> 05:33:22,626 to work hard to stay on project. 2055 05:33:22,626 --> 05:33:26,826 It was a couple hundred different things. 2056 05:33:26,978 --> 05:33:29,582 123 different things that we reviewed, 2057 05:33:29,582 --> 05:33:34,114 both in materials to how they were constructed to other ways 2058 05:33:34,114 --> 05:33:35,386 that we could do that. 2059 05:33:35,386 --> 05:33:39,387 But we were ultimately able to do that and stay on budget. 2060 05:33:39,387 --> 05:33:44,693 We did not affect any of the programs of the things 2061 05:33:44,693 --> 05:33:47,994 that we want to execute are all involved in the project. 2062 05:33:47,994 --> 05:33:52,940 But we were smart with where we were spending the funds. 2063 05:33:52,940 --> 05:33:56,394 >> And you guys had to revise and I can't remember the name 2064 05:33:56,394 --> 05:34:00,382 so if I say this wrong, please forgive me. 2065 05:34:00,382 --> 05:34:04,674 I don't know if it was the portico or portico share? 2066 05:34:04,674 --> 05:34:06,994 >> There is a beautiful porch share and there was some 2067 05:34:06,994 --> 05:34:12,420 beautiful wood over one area and we determined that was $11 2068 05:34:12,420 --> 05:34:17,434 million and what we determined was we could just put the wood 2069 05:34:17,434 --> 05:34:23,120 over the area where the people were standing and leave the rest 2070 05:34:23,120 --> 05:34:23,620 stucco. 2071 05:34:23,620 --> 05:34:26,874 We would save millions of dollars 2072 05:34:26,874 --> 05:34:28,826 so that is millions of dollars. 2073 05:34:28,826 --> 05:34:31,857 First we were going to cut out the entire thing 2074 05:34:31,857 --> 05:34:33,940 but we figured out how we could do better and make 2075 05:34:33,940 --> 05:34:38,674 a great presentation when you arrive in this underneath area 2076 05:34:38,674 --> 05:34:42,340 but we are saving some money. 2077 05:34:42,340 --> 05:34:48,634 >> So basically you are able to look at what was needed 2078 05:34:50,274 --> 05:34:54,100 (Indistinct) millions of dollars in cost savings. 2079 05:34:54,100 --> 05:34:59,394 >> We looked at literally every area to find cost savings. 2080 05:34:59,394 --> 05:35:01,337 >> Alright. 2081 05:35:01,337 --> 05:35:03,337 Commissioner Uribe. 2082 05:35:05,959 --> 05:35:08,914 >> So if I could, I know my office has been trying to find 2083 05:35:08,914 --> 05:35:14,179 out what is the current balance of funds in the ARC account 2084 05:35:14,179 --> 05:35:17,354 because it's kind of been moved around to everybody because I 2085 05:35:17,354 --> 05:35:21,450 keep seeing 5 million allocated and I didn't know what is 2086 05:35:21,450 --> 05:35:22,967 the current balance? 2087 05:35:22,967 --> 05:35:27,194 It's 5 million a year so where are we at right now? 2088 05:35:27,194 --> 05:35:32,420 >> So, this is all a decision of the board. 2089 05:35:32,420 --> 05:35:32,542 Right? 2090 05:35:32,542 --> 05:35:38,101 If you go back to the original allocation of the ARC funding 2091 05:35:38,101 --> 05:35:39,434 all of that money was allocated. 2092 05:35:39,434 --> 05:35:41,860 However there were a couple projects that ended up 2093 05:35:41,860 --> 05:35:44,202 not moving forward so that was just over $1 million 2094 05:35:44,202 --> 05:35:48,354 worth of money that you could say is available as balance. 2095 05:35:48,354 --> 05:35:52,670 Visitor Orlando as part of their amended agreement 2096 05:35:52,670 --> 05:35:54,734 is now setting aside that $5 million 2097 05:35:54,734 --> 05:35:59,229 and actually it's coming off the top of the money (Indistinct) 2098 05:35:59,229 --> 05:36:01,714 the county is keeping that money aside in a reserve fund 2099 05:36:01,714 --> 05:36:06,247 if you will that holds that money for ARC purposes. 2100 05:36:06,247 --> 05:36:09,344 They've done that for a year now so 2101 05:36:09,344 --> 05:36:14,453 if you want to call it a balance, about $6 million 2102 05:36:14,453 --> 05:36:17,874 or so is available there for ARC. 2103 05:36:17,874 --> 05:36:22,106 Now the board can obviously allocate more money 2104 05:36:22,106 --> 05:36:27,874 from TDT for that purpose but that's a service of the board. 2105 05:36:27,874 --> 05:36:29,757 >> That was a huge impact for home builders. 2106 05:36:29,757 --> 05:36:30,257 Right? 2107 05:36:30,257 --> 05:36:33,944 I think I read it was like a $300 million economic impact 2108 05:36:33,944 --> 05:36:36,740 that we are going to feel and can you kind of walk us 2109 05:36:36,740 --> 05:36:38,740 through what happened? 2110 05:36:42,610 --> 05:36:44,994 >> In that particular deal number one is, 2111 05:36:44,994 --> 05:36:50,674 that event concurred that they were going to Las Vegas many 2112 05:36:50,674 --> 05:36:52,354 years ago. 2113 05:36:52,354 --> 05:36:54,684 Actually before I even arrived here in Orlando 2114 05:36:54,684 --> 05:36:57,109 they determined for a number of reasons. 2115 05:36:57,109 --> 05:37:01,309 Infrastructure was one of them, that they 2116 05:37:01,711 --> 05:37:03,901 were going to go to Las Vegas on an annual basis 2117 05:37:03,901 --> 05:37:06,234 and they were going to finish out their string of events 2118 05:37:06,234 --> 05:37:11,634 that they had with us that were in '21 2119 05:37:14,211 --> 05:37:20,811 and '22 were their last events so they made that decision 2120 05:37:23,226 --> 05:37:24,674 many years ago. 2121 05:37:24,674 --> 05:37:27,837 They canceled their 2021 event and they rebooked 2026 2122 05:37:27,837 --> 05:37:30,730 with us only because of that. 2123 05:37:30,730 --> 05:37:35,530 The decision was because of events that size, 2124 05:37:35,914 --> 05:37:39,354 there are some infrastructure limitations we have that Las 2125 05:37:39,354 --> 05:37:41,354 Vegas doesn't. 2126 05:37:41,393 --> 05:37:45,670 Our roads, we had to work really hard 2127 05:37:45,670 --> 05:37:47,194 to ensure that people were moving 2128 05:37:47,194 --> 05:37:50,160 and busses were moving in people had places to park. 2129 05:37:50,160 --> 05:37:56,160 It was not necessarily easy and in that particular case, 2130 05:37:57,140 --> 05:37:59,687 our hotels were incredibly occupied. 2131 05:37:59,687 --> 05:38:03,460 I heard of one hotel walking to the beach 2132 05:38:03,460 --> 05:38:06,754 so we were unbelievably occupied during that time 2133 05:38:06,754 --> 05:38:09,167 and Las Vegas has more hotel rooms. 2134 05:38:09,167 --> 05:38:11,774 But we have not had it on the books. 2135 05:38:11,774 --> 05:38:13,647 It was a one off this year. 2136 05:38:13,647 --> 05:38:15,210 There was a big spike in revenue. 2137 05:38:15,210 --> 05:38:21,666 It helped us make this year, but was not one that 2138 05:38:21,666 --> 05:38:23,260 was unexpected by any means. 2139 05:38:23,260 --> 05:38:24,647 We are doing well. 2140 05:38:24,647 --> 05:38:26,420 We are doing well. 2141 05:38:26,420 --> 05:38:28,964 >> But that's a major blow because I mean that's a huge 2142 05:38:28,964 --> 05:38:29,464 conference. 2143 05:38:29,464 --> 05:38:34,104 That kind of revenue -- >> It was major probably for us 2144 05:38:34,104 --> 05:38:38,714 in 2018 or 2019 when we realized it and we started planning 2145 05:38:38,714 --> 05:38:39,847 around it. 2146 05:38:39,847 --> 05:38:46,447 So our fiscal years -- again, we don't have someone there 2147 05:38:49,254 --> 05:38:50,714 that's 120,000 people. 2148 05:38:50,714 --> 05:38:54,367 We may have two events that are at 40 or something like that. 2149 05:38:54,367 --> 05:38:57,294 You never want to lose but it was something that happened 2150 05:38:57,294 --> 05:39:00,294 a long long time >> Okay. 2151 05:39:00,476 --> 05:39:01,976 Well I think the big question though 2152 05:39:01,976 --> 05:39:06,444 is just being able to have the infrastructure to support. 2153 05:39:06,444 --> 05:39:10,530 If you want to go out and bid another major group, 2154 05:39:10,530 --> 05:39:13,250 do we have the capacity to host them? 2155 05:39:13,250 --> 05:39:14,859 It's one thing to say rooms but it's 2156 05:39:14,859 --> 05:39:16,859 another thing to say they can't get through here 2157 05:39:16,859 --> 05:39:18,834 because of traffic. 2158 05:39:18,834 --> 05:39:20,124 >> It was a big event. 2159 05:39:20,124 --> 05:39:23,114 It was a stressor event and we were successful so 2160 05:39:23,114 --> 05:39:26,322 with potentially return at some point? 2161 05:39:26,322 --> 05:39:27,447 Never say never. 2162 05:39:27,447 --> 05:39:31,450 They had to reduce some of their exhibits based to be here 2163 05:39:31,450 --> 05:39:33,549 in 2026 as Las Vegas is larger than us 2164 05:39:33,549 --> 05:39:36,605 so they did reduce a little bit to be here, 2165 05:39:36,605 --> 05:39:39,254 but you never say never. 2166 05:39:39,254 --> 05:39:42,140 We would certainly welcome the conversation. 2167 05:39:42,140 --> 05:39:42,692 >> Okay. 2168 05:39:42,692 --> 05:39:44,522 I mean but you said 120,000? 2169 05:39:44,522 --> 05:39:51,122 So we are not equipped to handle that kind of party? 2170 05:39:51,554 --> 05:39:54,540 >> 120,000 people entering the drive at one time and leaving 2171 05:39:54,540 --> 05:39:57,654 at one time, that's a lot. 2172 05:39:58,574 --> 05:39:59,780 That's a lot. 2173 05:39:59,780 --> 05:40:01,487 >> So we are not equipped? 2174 05:40:01,487 --> 05:40:05,554 >> Other modes of transportation would certainly help us. . 2175 05:40:05,554 --> 05:40:06,171 >> Okay good. 2176 05:40:06,171 --> 05:40:07,434 We all agree on that. 2177 05:40:07,434 --> 05:40:09,434 Thanks. 2178 05:40:09,994 --> 05:40:14,969 >> With the conversation at this point we do have the next item 2179 05:40:14,969 --> 05:40:19,769 that we have to address is the budget, 2180 05:40:20,247 --> 05:40:25,910 tentative budget and the Millages and I'm going to call 2181 05:40:25,910 --> 05:40:31,691 on the board regarding action on the tentative millages that have 2182 05:40:31,834 --> 05:40:33,854 been presented at this time. 2183 05:40:33,854 --> 05:40:36,140 Is there a motion? 2184 05:40:36,140 --> 05:40:36,990 >> So moved. 2185 05:40:36,990 --> 05:40:38,554 Scott. 2186 05:40:38,554 --> 05:40:40,554 >> Second Commissioner Uribe. 2187 05:40:43,830 --> 05:40:46,430 Now then we have a motion and a second. 2188 05:40:46,430 --> 05:40:48,926 All in favor let it be known by saying aye. 2189 05:40:48,926 --> 05:40:50,410 Opposed, no? 2190 05:40:50,410 --> 05:40:53,454 Motion passes and it is unanimous. 2191 05:40:53,454 --> 05:40:59,170 And now the second part of this is I will call on the board 2192 05:40:59,170 --> 05:41:03,370 regarding action on the budget consent agenda . 2193 05:41:10,257 --> 05:41:13,400 >> Mayor, are you going to the budget next? 2194 05:41:13,400 --> 05:41:15,390 Or the consent? 2195 05:41:15,390 --> 05:41:17,304 I just want to make sure. 2196 05:41:17,304 --> 05:41:19,974 When we get to the consent I need 2197 05:41:19,974 --> 05:41:22,254 to pull the Environmental protection fee adjustments 2198 05:41:22,254 --> 05:41:23,260 for future discussion. 2199 05:41:23,260 --> 05:41:26,760 I just want to make sure the clerk knows that. 2200 05:41:26,760 --> 05:41:27,260 >> Okay. 2201 05:41:27,260 --> 05:41:30,860 You want to do that now? 2202 05:41:34,194 --> 05:41:38,594 Are you asking for action on the consent agenda? 2203 05:41:38,594 --> 05:41:40,201 >> Yes. 2204 05:41:40,201 --> 05:41:40,701 >> Yeah. 2205 05:41:40,701 --> 05:41:42,724 We can go to that one and then come back 2206 05:41:42,724 --> 05:41:44,418 to the countywide budget. 2207 05:41:44,418 --> 05:41:46,818 We did the millage. 2208 05:41:47,234 --> 05:41:48,340 Correct? 2209 05:41:48,340 --> 05:41:50,434 Oh you did both. 2210 05:41:51,140 --> 05:41:51,594 Okay. 2211 05:41:51,594 --> 05:41:53,600 Mulligan budget together. 2212 05:41:53,600 --> 05:41:53,506 Okay. 2213 05:41:53,506 --> 05:41:57,450 So on the consent agenda, I would 2214 05:41:57,450 --> 05:42:01,340 like to request that we pull the environmental tax and fees 2215 05:42:01,340 --> 05:42:03,434 adjustment for future discussion. 2216 05:42:04,474 --> 05:42:06,874 >> So move requested action? 2217 05:42:08,740 --> 05:42:12,194 You will pull that and then we will bring it back. 2218 05:42:12,194 --> 05:42:14,194 All right. 2219 05:42:16,718 --> 05:42:17,218 >> Second. 2220 05:42:17,218 --> 05:42:20,607 >> We are voting on the consent agenda item minus the item he is 2221 05:42:20,607 --> 05:42:23,700 pulling at this point. 2222 05:42:23,580 --> 05:42:28,624 >> Move budget consent agenda with the revision of the removal 2223 05:42:28,624 --> 05:42:32,224 of the environmental Protection Fee adjustment. 2224 05:42:35,210 --> 05:42:35,710 >> Okay. 2225 05:42:35,710 --> 05:42:36,594 So we have a motion. 2226 05:42:36,594 --> 05:42:40,194 The second is Commissioner Gomez Cordero. 2227 05:42:43,354 --> 05:42:45,234 >> Can we have discussion? 2228 05:42:45,234 --> 05:42:46,514 >> Absolutely. 2229 05:42:46,514 --> 05:42:48,690 >> What does that mean for that being pulled? 2230 05:42:48,690 --> 05:42:52,810 I know there was one line item that was of concern 2231 05:42:52,810 --> 05:42:54,395 to Commissioner Uribe. 2232 05:42:54,395 --> 05:42:57,714 I want to make sure I understand because the rest of those fees 2233 05:42:57,714 --> 05:42:59,434 for the Environmental Protection Division 2234 05:42:59,434 --> 05:43:01,794 are important to be updated. 2235 05:43:01,794 --> 05:43:04,540 >> This included that entire section. 2236 05:43:04,540 --> 05:43:07,927 We need to be more prescriptive and active. 2237 05:43:07,927 --> 05:43:08,460 >> Yeah. 2238 05:43:08,460 --> 05:43:11,354 We can adopt the rest of those and pull the one line 2239 05:43:11,354 --> 05:43:13,762 if that's permissible because I don't 2240 05:43:13,762 --> 05:43:19,527 want to hold up the rest of the permitting update. 2241 05:43:19,527 --> 05:43:21,527 >> Just boat docks? 2242 05:43:22,154 --> 05:43:22,740 >> Yeah. 2243 05:43:22,740 --> 05:43:24,874 The issue is centered around the fees. 2244 05:43:24,874 --> 05:43:26,874 The building fees. 2245 05:43:32,301 --> 05:43:33,259 >> Just the boat docks. 2246 05:43:33,259 --> 05:43:35,767 There was other environmental there 2247 05:43:35,767 --> 05:43:40,567 >> Was your concern only with the boat docks, 2248 05:43:43,220 --> 05:43:44,137 Commissioner Uribe? 2249 05:43:44,137 --> 05:43:46,779 There was a laundry list of fees. 2250 05:43:46,779 --> 05:43:48,862 >> So you are saying you don't want for shoreline. 2251 05:43:48,862 --> 05:43:51,691 You want to pull all of this? 2252 05:43:51,691 --> 05:43:52,191 Okay. 2253 05:43:52,191 --> 05:43:54,266 I ask if there is consensus on that 2254 05:43:54,266 --> 05:43:56,514 because I disagree with her. 2255 05:43:56,514 --> 05:44:00,794 >> I would withdraw then Commissioner Uribe can do her 2256 05:44:00,794 --> 05:44:02,499 amended motion or you can. 2257 05:44:02,499 --> 05:44:04,874 >> I don't agree with that so I just want to make sure -- 2258 05:44:04,874 --> 05:44:08,721 >> We can vote on the item and pull it and then have further 2259 05:44:08,721 --> 05:44:10,971 discussion if you want to do that because we will have 2260 05:44:10,971 --> 05:44:16,371 to come back to try to address that issue. 2261 05:44:18,159 --> 05:44:23,474 >> Mayor, do you guys just want to pull the last two items? 2262 05:44:23,474 --> 05:44:29,740 The two that says boat ramp permit and boat dock 2263 05:44:29,740 --> 05:44:30,674 construction? 2264 05:44:30,674 --> 05:44:31,314 >> No. 2265 05:44:31,314 --> 05:44:34,424 I think in the presentation there were multiple 2266 05:44:34,424 --> 05:44:39,824 where we were increasing by thousands of a percent. 2267 05:44:44,792 --> 05:44:45,834 >> There were other fees. 2268 05:44:45,834 --> 05:44:51,765 >> There were other fees that the way I interpreted what 2269 05:44:51,765 --> 05:44:52,847 Commissioner Uribe -- 2270 05:44:52,847 --> 05:44:55,594 >> Because all of those are going up. 2271 05:44:55,594 --> 05:45:02,794 >> Her goal was to kind of have a discussion on those items. 2272 05:45:04,122 --> 05:45:04,622 >> Correct. 2273 05:45:04,622 --> 05:45:05,664 All those that are shown. 2274 05:45:05,664 --> 05:45:07,700 The first was just the boat docks. 2275 05:45:07,700 --> 05:45:09,944 What was shown was pulling everything that 2276 05:45:09,944 --> 05:45:13,114 is shown there on the slide. 2277 05:45:13,114 --> 05:45:14,100 >> On the fees. 2278 05:45:14,100 --> 05:45:16,100 Yeah. 2279 05:45:16,354 --> 05:45:21,314 That is what she wants to have a discussion about. 2280 05:45:21,314 --> 05:45:24,634 >> I am interested in updating these very far behind fees 2281 05:45:24,634 --> 05:45:28,347 for things that we have staff giving time for right now. 2282 05:45:28,347 --> 05:45:30,682 You literally heard the words pro Bono. 2283 05:45:30,682 --> 05:45:33,820 We can't do that. 2284 05:45:34,714 --> 05:45:38,309 We don't have the -- and so this is a catch up. 2285 05:45:38,309 --> 05:45:40,392 I understand you were saying it's a large catch up 2286 05:45:40,392 --> 05:45:43,567 but the problem is that we needed those fees. 2287 05:45:43,567 --> 05:45:44,600 >> I disagree. 2288 05:45:44,600 --> 05:45:48,800 You don't go from 182 to $489 without getting 2289 05:45:49,714 --> 05:45:50,746 the community involved. 2290 05:45:50,746 --> 05:45:54,434 We are a transparent government and if everyone is in agreeance 2291 05:45:54,434 --> 05:45:56,767 it's fine but to sit here and justify what they have not 2292 05:45:56,767 --> 05:45:59,698 done in the past them to do that on the residents right now 2293 05:45:59,698 --> 05:46:03,374 I think is very irresponsible as us not being transparent 2294 05:46:03,374 --> 05:46:05,799 with the community and so I'm not saying no. 2295 05:46:05,799 --> 05:46:09,766 I'm just saying that we need to have a real discussion, look 2296 05:46:09,766 --> 05:46:11,578 at what is going on in other counties 2297 05:46:11,578 --> 05:46:14,578 which I have the research 2298 05:46:15,779 --> 05:46:21,179 [Members speaking Mayor Demings: They have done all work. 2299 05:46:22,480 --> 05:46:23,423 >> It's not about doing the work. 2300 05:46:23,423 --> 05:46:26,423 It's about what transparency means. 2301 05:46:27,554 --> 05:46:31,154 >> It's all been public and transparent. 2302 05:46:31,954 --> 05:46:35,274 >> My residents have reached out to me and said this isn't right. 2303 05:46:35,274 --> 05:46:37,891 >> We can move it off if that is the wish of the board. 2304 05:46:37,891 --> 05:46:41,302 I just feel responsible for what we 2305 05:46:41,302 --> 05:46:44,958 know the cost is to the entire county. 2306 05:46:44,958 --> 05:46:47,500 >> If someone can afford a boat dock I'm sure they can afford 2307 05:46:47,500 --> 05:46:48,700 the fees. 2308 05:46:48,700 --> 05:46:51,442 >> That is not the way it goes and that is not fair of what is 2309 05:46:51,442 --> 05:46:53,778 happening and you still are transparent with us. 2310 05:46:53,778 --> 05:46:57,875 There's a difference between a $100,000 boat ramp and a $20,000 2311 05:46:57,875 --> 05:46:59,875 boat ramp. 2312 05:47:01,486 --> 05:47:03,944 [Members speaking concurrently] And I will tell you a month 2313 05:47:03,944 --> 05:47:06,586 or two months is not going to change this but what will change 2314 05:47:06,586 --> 05:47:09,954 is people trust in government and how we do this 2315 05:47:09,954 --> 05:47:14,754 and that is where this conversation comes from. 2316 05:47:15,684 --> 05:47:17,684 [Members speaking concurrently] 2317 05:47:23,229 --> 05:47:25,404 >> My residents do not feel well informed so me yes. 2318 05:47:25,404 --> 05:47:27,954 When residents reach out to me and say -- 2319 05:47:27,954 --> 05:47:33,954 >> I asked to take the briefing when they offered it. 2320 05:47:34,195 --> 05:47:36,195 [Members speaking concurrently] 2321 05:47:36,272 --> 05:47:38,564 >> The public has this information but we can repeat it 2322 05:47:38,564 --> 05:47:40,564 if that's necessary. 2323 05:47:40,807 --> 05:47:42,807 >> Okay commissioners. 2324 05:47:43,103 --> 05:47:45,864 I could withdraw my motion. 2325 05:47:45,864 --> 05:47:47,864 Right? 2326 05:47:50,394 --> 05:47:54,594 I'm going to let Commissioner Semrad go. 2327 05:47:55,262 --> 05:47:57,554 >> I just wanted to remind everybody that we've already 2328 05:47:57,554 --> 05:48:00,485 voted on these fees so when this budget was done it was done 2329 05:48:00,485 --> 05:48:03,718 based off of a vote that we passed these. 2330 05:48:03,718 --> 05:48:06,510 >> They actually never came in front of us and they said 2331 05:48:06,510 --> 05:48:10,234 it's going to be included in the budget. 2332 05:48:10,234 --> 05:48:12,644 >> We presented to the board the boat fee. 2333 05:48:12,644 --> 05:48:14,477 The ramp impact fees. 2334 05:48:14,477 --> 05:48:16,900 We got a presentation. 2335 05:48:16,900 --> 05:48:18,900 I got briefed. 2336 05:48:21,988 --> 05:48:27,388 [Members speaking concurrently] It was a public hearing here 2337 05:48:27,874 --> 05:48:31,986 and I don't recall that we had any citizens that came. 2338 05:48:31,986 --> 05:48:34,236 >> Because everyone doesn't watch our website to do it 2339 05:48:34,236 --> 05:48:35,761 so just being transparent. 2340 05:48:35,761 --> 05:48:38,838 No one said it's not going to happen or how we do it. 2341 05:48:38,838 --> 05:48:41,296 It's about transparency and making sure the public is aware 2342 05:48:41,296 --> 05:48:43,760 and they come and they make sure. 2343 05:48:43,760 --> 05:48:45,974 If that ends up passing that's fine but I don't think a month 2344 05:48:45,974 --> 05:48:49,106 is going to throw this entire budget for the next fiscal year 2345 05:48:49,106 --> 05:48:51,234 off to do that. 2346 05:48:51,234 --> 05:48:52,900 >> When is your meeting? 2347 05:48:52,900 --> 05:48:56,394 >> My meeting is on Tuesday but the mayor has asked staff 2348 05:48:56,394 --> 05:48:59,394 to bring it before us. 2349 05:49:01,629 --> 05:49:02,754 >> When could we come back? 2350 05:49:02,754 --> 05:49:03,474 Timeline. 2351 05:49:03,474 --> 05:49:10,674 So she wants to have her meeting before we move forward so 2352 05:49:15,280 --> 05:49:18,470 [Members speaking >> What we will have to do 2353 05:49:18,470 --> 05:49:20,631 is we will have to get the majority of the board 2354 05:49:20,631 --> 05:49:21,690 to agree to do that. 2355 05:49:21,690 --> 05:49:23,282 If that doesn't happen today then 2356 05:49:23,282 --> 05:49:26,185 we're going to end up voting on this today. 2357 05:49:26,185 --> 05:49:27,850 But that's all I'm saying. 2358 05:49:27,850 --> 05:49:32,650 That's why we are having this general conversation. 2359 05:49:36,234 --> 05:49:39,374 I think that is the issue that Commissioner Wilson is 2360 05:49:39,374 --> 05:49:40,434 trying to point out. 2361 05:49:40,434 --> 05:49:41,974 Am I correct Commissioner Wilson? 2362 05:49:41,974 --> 05:49:43,954 I'm not trying to put words in your mouth 2363 05:49:43,954 --> 05:49:46,714 but I'm trying to understand. 2364 05:49:46,714 --> 05:49:49,280 >> Because when I tried to discuss it during you were 2365 05:49:49,280 --> 05:49:51,863 the one that kindly said let's pull this and have it come back 2366 05:49:51,863 --> 05:49:54,954 later with more information so that is what I went on because I 2367 05:49:54,954 --> 05:49:55,898 have my data. 2368 05:49:55,898 --> 05:49:57,507 I have the corresponding county's. 2369 05:49:57,507 --> 05:50:01,107 I have all of that here. 2370 05:50:01,814 --> 05:50:02,314 >> Okay. 2371 05:50:02,314 --> 05:50:07,314 But we can't get there if we don't have the general board. 2372 05:50:07,314 --> 05:50:08,346 >> I'm not saying no. 2373 05:50:08,346 --> 05:50:10,388 I'm just saying allow this to be and go with that 2374 05:50:10,388 --> 05:50:12,514 and if it ends up being here that's fine. 2375 05:50:12,514 --> 05:50:14,234 It's not going to make or break us. 2376 05:50:14,234 --> 05:50:17,234 It's the next fiscal year. 2377 05:50:28,596 --> 05:50:30,596 [Members speaking concurrently] 2378 05:50:32,652 --> 05:50:33,944 >> I'm splitting the baby here. 2379 05:50:33,944 --> 05:50:36,890 I support you and where you are but I 2380 05:50:36,890 --> 05:50:38,589 support her right to be able to bring it to her constituents 2381 05:50:38,589 --> 05:50:40,589 first. 2382 05:50:43,597 --> 05:50:46,140 >> Let's spin the scenarios because what if she comes back 2383 05:50:46,140 --> 05:50:48,752 and says the community didn't approve of this. 2384 05:50:48,752 --> 05:50:51,294 >> Well then they have a right to come out and advocate right 2385 05:50:51,294 --> 05:50:53,132 to you guys and do all that. 2386 05:50:53,132 --> 05:50:55,674 >> But I'm trying to understand from a budget perspective how 2387 05:50:55,674 --> 05:50:58,674 does that impact our budget? 2388 05:51:00,633 --> 05:51:02,716 >> There will need to be action one way or another 2389 05:51:02,716 --> 05:51:04,466 on the environmental protection fees. 2390 05:51:04,466 --> 05:51:12,266 We could bring those back on the consent agenda as soon as -- 2391 05:51:14,554 --> 05:51:18,507 the request was to allow for a town hall meeting then come back 2392 05:51:18,507 --> 05:51:23,986 so if your town hall meeting is within the next I think you said 2393 05:51:23,986 --> 05:51:24,610 Tuesday? 2394 05:51:24,610 --> 05:51:30,100 Then August depending upon that kind of goes back 2395 05:51:30,213 --> 05:51:33,700 to Commissioner Semrad if the deal is okay are you all allow 2396 05:51:33,700 --> 05:51:35,754 that to happen then August 4th it could be on the consent 2397 05:51:35,754 --> 05:51:38,154 agenda for those fees. 2398 05:51:38,746 --> 05:51:43,546 Now what happens if the Commissioner still wants 2399 05:51:44,794 --> 05:51:46,374 to have a discussion about it? 2400 05:51:46,374 --> 05:51:48,880 I guess she could still pull it from the consent agenda 2401 05:51:48,880 --> 05:51:51,758 and the board could have that discussion August 4th. 2402 05:51:51,758 --> 05:51:52,258 >> Okay. 2403 05:51:52,258 --> 05:51:53,927 That sounds good. 2404 05:51:53,927 --> 05:51:57,820 >> I interpreted it when we were having this conversation before 2405 05:51:57,820 --> 05:52:03,820 that the board was generally supportive of the position that 2406 05:52:04,953 --> 05:52:08,554 Commissioner Uribe was taking at that time. 2407 05:52:08,554 --> 05:52:13,638 If the board was not supportive of that, that is a misread 2408 05:52:13,638 --> 05:52:16,640 and she doesn't have the overwhelming support 2409 05:52:16,640 --> 05:52:18,640 of the board. 2410 05:52:18,527 --> 05:52:22,160 >> She has three commissioners from what I can tell. 2411 05:52:22,160 --> 05:52:24,474 >> And I do want to say when I did meet with staff I wanted 2412 05:52:24,474 --> 05:52:27,125 to actually have this be a discussion for us but they said 2413 05:52:27,125 --> 05:52:29,594 it's going to come up on the budget so I thought discussion 2414 05:52:29,594 --> 05:52:31,844 would happen and then wanting to get the community. 2415 05:52:31,844 --> 05:52:35,285 It's just my residents have written us very upset 2416 05:52:35,285 --> 05:52:38,456 that we are taking 20 years of doing it boom right now 2417 05:52:38,456 --> 05:52:40,540 and it is unfair to the community 2418 05:52:40,540 --> 05:52:42,499 and they get Commissioner Scott is saying well 2419 05:52:42,499 --> 05:52:45,740 you know if you have a book doc it's not that's not 2420 05:52:45,740 --> 05:52:46,642 how we answer people. 2421 05:52:46,642 --> 05:52:48,594 Just because you can it's okay? 2422 05:52:48,594 --> 05:52:49,919 That's not how we do things. 2423 05:52:49,919 --> 05:52:52,560 I mean you've got to give people their right to their voice 2424 05:52:52,560 --> 05:52:54,554 and to be able to speak. 2425 05:52:54,554 --> 05:52:59,354 >> So let me just be real clear here. 2426 05:53:00,714 --> 05:53:07,274 How many of you I'm going to ask members of the board, 2427 05:53:07,274 --> 05:53:10,106 if you are prepared to move forward today as is 2428 05:53:10,106 --> 05:53:17,306 as presented by staff today, of you that you would say yes? 2429 05:53:18,674 --> 05:53:20,664 Yes. 2430 05:53:20,664 --> 05:53:22,664 Commissioner Uribe? 2431 05:53:26,510 --> 05:53:28,510 Commissioner Gomez Cordero? 2432 05:53:28,403 --> 05:53:29,927 Commissioner Semrad? 2433 05:53:29,927 --> 05:53:30,985 >> I'm so sorry. 2434 05:53:30,985 --> 05:53:32,961 Can you repeat the question? 2435 05:53:32,961 --> 05:53:35,586 >> If you are prepared to move forward today with the fees that 2436 05:53:35,586 --> 05:53:40,714 are presented by the board this morning, who would say yes? 2437 05:53:40,714 --> 05:53:44,100 If you are not prepared to move forward 2438 05:53:44,100 --> 05:53:46,362 and you think these fees need to change, 2439 05:53:46,362 --> 05:53:52,362 and that is the position that Commissioner Uribe has taken 2440 05:53:56,502 --> 05:53:59,831 are you >> Understood and my answer 2441 05:53:59,831 --> 05:54:02,414 is that yes I was prepared and I can say when we did this post 2442 05:54:02,414 --> 05:54:04,234 to inform people, 2443 05:54:04,234 --> 05:54:07,274 we did hear some things back from the community 2444 05:54:07,274 --> 05:54:09,314 and we did do ample research and also 2445 05:54:09,314 --> 05:54:12,900 reached out to EPD to further understand how just upside down 2446 05:54:12,900 --> 05:54:16,394 we were and because I am a strong believer that everybody 2447 05:54:16,394 --> 05:54:20,922 should pay their fair share and no citizen who can't afford 2448 05:54:20,922 --> 05:54:23,514 to have a boat have a dock and live on a lake 2449 05:54:23,514 --> 05:54:28,980 is subsidizing the cost and the fee of somebody who can't, yes. 2450 05:54:28,980 --> 05:54:30,980 I firmly support 2451 05:54:31,956 --> 05:54:36,156 [Members speaking concurrently] >> That's not fair (Indistinct) 2452 05:54:40,478 --> 05:54:40,978 . 2453 05:54:40,978 --> 05:54:41,895 >> Commissioner Scott. 2454 05:54:41,895 --> 05:54:45,700 >> Mayor, as I said before I'm good with the fees. 2455 05:54:45,700 --> 05:54:47,700 However if the commissioner wants an opportunity 2456 05:54:47,700 --> 05:54:49,714 to bring it to the community I feel like she 2457 05:54:49,714 --> 05:54:51,911 should have that opportunity. 2458 05:54:51,911 --> 05:54:52,411 >> Okay. 2459 05:54:52,411 --> 05:54:54,367 So you are a no today? 2460 05:54:54,367 --> 05:54:56,674 >> If I could mayor what I was trying to say earlier 2461 05:54:56,674 --> 05:54:59,217 because this is where I have an issue and this is where we 2462 05:54:59,217 --> 05:55:02,594 continue to wonder why the state comes in and says to us Orange 2463 05:55:02,594 --> 05:55:06,714 County, this is why you can't control your own government 2464 05:55:06,714 --> 05:55:10,500 because when it costs you $60 in the city of Orlando but it costs 2465 05:55:10,500 --> 05:55:12,849 you $1,800 in Orange County oh well you know. 2466 05:55:12,849 --> 05:55:15,479 And then you wonder why they do this and why. 2467 05:55:15,479 --> 05:55:20,390 And when I did have my briefing with staff, 2468 05:55:20,390 --> 05:55:22,794 no other commission was willing to update but then I'm 2469 05:55:22,794 --> 05:55:25,258 also told they take applications that are incomplete 2470 05:55:25,258 --> 05:55:30,294 and that they spend hours on incomplete because technology 2471 05:55:30,294 --> 05:55:33,537 wise, we haven't gotten a system that 2472 05:55:33,537 --> 05:55:35,954 says if you have an incomplete application we're not going 2473 05:55:35,954 --> 05:55:37,807 to spend six hours of staff reviewing it 2474 05:55:37,807 --> 05:55:41,740 and that is what you are basing your increase because we have 2475 05:55:41,740 --> 05:55:43,564 an incompetency of an entry level of submitting 2476 05:55:43,564 --> 05:55:47,214 an application is very not how government is supposed to work. 2477 05:55:47,214 --> 05:55:50,616 And that is when you look at Lake you look at orange 2478 05:55:50,616 --> 05:55:53,634 you look at Seminole you look at City of Orlando city of alpaca 2479 05:55:53,634 --> 05:55:55,234 this is you wonder why people want 2480 05:55:55,234 --> 05:55:58,834 to annex out of Orange County. 2481 05:56:01,152 --> 05:56:01,652 >> Okay. 2482 05:56:01,652 --> 05:56:02,109 I'm going to tell you the position 2483 05:56:02,109 --> 05:56:04,740 I will go with the majority at this point 2484 05:56:04,740 --> 05:56:07,154 and that is to move forward with it okay? 2485 05:56:07,154 --> 05:56:10,709 So that means that the overwhelming consensus 2486 05:56:10,709 --> 05:56:15,862 of the body at this point is to move forward, 2487 05:56:15,862 --> 05:56:17,761 Commissioner Uribe. 2488 05:56:17,761 --> 05:56:21,524 Earlier I did not get the sense that there was consensus there. 2489 05:56:21,524 --> 05:56:25,374 It's clear to me that the consensus is there so to try 2490 05:56:25,374 --> 05:56:27,774 to advance this along . 2491 05:56:29,841 --> 05:56:32,575 I thought the board wanted to get more information 2492 05:56:32,575 --> 05:56:33,774 before making a decision. 2493 05:56:33,774 --> 05:56:36,380 That is not what I just heard. 2494 05:56:36,380 --> 05:56:41,780 So with that, we're going to take this item. 2495 05:56:41,954 --> 05:56:46,154 >> I think commissioner Scott made a motion. 2496 05:56:46,874 --> 05:56:49,962 >> I made the motion based on budget guidance. 2497 05:56:49,962 --> 05:56:52,362 It has been seconded. 2498 05:56:52,610 --> 05:56:54,668 We can move forward with the vote 2499 05:56:54,668 --> 05:56:59,468 if that is what you are saying, Byron. 2500 05:57:01,914 --> 05:57:07,914 >> I think the motion however was contemplating that this item 2501 05:57:12,194 --> 05:57:15,314 -- >> Additional information to be brought back. 2502 05:57:15,314 --> 05:57:21,914 >> So that motion is not what I'm hearing the board wants 2503 05:57:23,980 --> 05:57:24,362 to do. 2504 05:57:24,362 --> 05:57:28,704 The majority of the board wants to move forward. 2505 05:57:28,704 --> 05:57:35,620 So you know, if you don't amend the motion that motion is likely 2506 05:57:35,620 --> 05:57:37,600 going to fail. 2507 05:57:37,600 --> 05:57:38,954 >> I withdraw my motion. 2508 05:57:38,954 --> 05:57:40,554 >> Okay. 2509 05:57:40,554 --> 05:57:44,274 Commissioner Scott wants to withdraw his motion. 2510 05:57:44,274 --> 05:57:49,740 And who is the seconder on the motion? 2511 05:57:49,834 --> 05:57:51,994 Are you good with the withdraw? 2512 05:57:51,994 --> 05:57:52,494 Okay. 2513 05:57:52,494 --> 05:57:54,860 She's good with the withdraw so we don't have 2514 05:57:54,860 --> 05:57:56,524 a motion on the floor anymore. 2515 05:57:56,524 --> 05:57:59,524 So I entertain another motion. 2516 05:58:02,740 --> 05:58:06,434 >> I make a motion for approval of the budget consent agenda. 2517 05:58:06,434 --> 05:58:08,434 >> Second. 2518 05:58:12,322 --> 05:58:16,474 >> In its entirety, inclusive of this fee update? 2519 05:58:16,474 --> 05:58:19,474 >> In its entirety as presented. 2520 05:58:23,987 --> 05:58:25,654 >> I have a point of procedure question. 2521 05:58:25,654 --> 05:58:31,974 So consent agenda we have four sub items under one large item. 2522 05:58:31,974 --> 05:58:35,780 Could we take those as separate votes? 2523 05:58:35,780 --> 05:58:37,674 >> Yes you could. 2524 05:58:37,674 --> 05:58:41,954 >> Mayor, I would like to take those as separate votes if you 2525 05:58:41,954 --> 05:58:43,602 don't mind. 2526 05:58:43,602 --> 05:58:45,602 I'm just asking. 2527 05:58:49,914 --> 05:58:52,999 The reason why I'm saying that is 2528 05:58:52,999 --> 05:58:54,874 because obviously we are talking about things 2529 05:58:54,874 --> 05:58:55,870 larger than the vote. 2530 05:58:55,870 --> 05:59:00,284 I think it would be fair To give Commissioner 2531 05:59:00,284 --> 05:59:02,340 Uribe an opportunity to vote on the things 2532 05:59:02,340 --> 05:59:04,409 she is in support of as opposed to things that she is not 2533 05:59:04,409 --> 05:59:07,204 so I think it allows folks to know specifically what someone 2534 05:59:07,204 --> 05:59:11,171 is going to vote for and where their concerns lie as opposed 2535 05:59:11,171 --> 05:59:14,771 to (Indistinct) if Commissioner Semrad would 2536 05:59:16,674 --> 05:59:18,714 like to withdraw her motion. 2537 05:59:18,714 --> 05:59:22,220 >> I will withdraw my motion to make it an amendment. 2538 05:59:22,220 --> 05:59:27,620 >> So I will make another motion to approve -- 2539 05:59:33,468 --> 05:59:36,994 >> He's getting the vote so she can vote on what she wants. 2540 05:59:36,994 --> 05:59:40,159 >> I can't hear what's going on down there but I believe what 2541 05:59:40,159 --> 05:59:43,154 I'm hearing -- you made a motion. 2542 05:59:43,154 --> 05:59:43,743 >> So no. 2543 05:59:43,743 --> 05:59:45,820 We have no motion on the floor. 2544 05:59:45,820 --> 05:59:50,200 >> You made a motion initially I think. 2545 05:59:54,260 --> 05:59:56,260 [Members speaking concurrently] 2546 06:00:04,869 --> 06:00:08,514 >> So Commissioner Wilson, I am humbly requesting that you 2547 06:00:08,514 --> 06:00:12,810 withdraw your motion to allow me to make a friendly amendment 2548 06:00:12,810 --> 06:00:18,715 that we vote those item at a time to allow Commissioner Uribe 2549 06:00:18,715 --> 06:00:21,554 to vote for the things that she supports and to not vote 2550 06:00:21,554 --> 06:00:23,694 for the things that she does not support. 2551 06:00:23,694 --> 06:00:25,116 We will still move forward. 2552 06:00:25,116 --> 06:00:27,574 It will just be separate votes. 2553 06:00:27,574 --> 06:00:28,740 >> Okay. 2554 06:00:28,740 --> 06:00:32,274 So what are you asking of me? 2555 06:00:33,940 --> 06:00:37,140 >> You can withdraw your motion or allow me to make a friendly 2556 06:00:37,140 --> 06:00:38,620 amendment. 2557 06:00:38,620 --> 06:00:41,610 >> I will amend my motion to allow the bifurcated vote 2558 06:00:41,610 --> 06:00:44,100 on the consent agenda. 2559 06:00:44,714 --> 06:00:50,127 >> So our first vote is going to be fire and rescue fees. 2560 06:00:50,127 --> 06:00:52,594 >> And I am okay with the friendly amendment 2561 06:00:52,594 --> 06:00:54,594 as the seconder. 2562 06:00:56,634 --> 06:00:57,294 >> I'm sorry. 2563 06:00:57,294 --> 06:00:59,466 The clerk is giving me an indication that this 2564 06:00:59,466 --> 06:01:00,742 may be difficult to track. 2565 06:01:00,742 --> 06:01:03,764 I'm going to withdraw the motion and allow someone else to make 2566 06:01:03,764 --> 06:01:04,330 the motion. 2567 06:01:04,330 --> 06:01:05,594 Thank you. 2568 06:01:05,594 --> 06:01:08,740 >> I move we approve the first item of the consent agenda 2569 06:01:08,740 --> 06:01:12,234 specifically the fire and Rescue Fee CPI indexing. 2570 06:01:12,234 --> 06:01:13,354 >> Second. 2571 06:01:13,354 --> 06:01:16,730 >> We have a second on the fire rescue piece. 2572 06:01:16,730 --> 06:01:22,730 All in favor let it be known by saying aye. 2573 06:01:22,854 --> 06:01:24,854 Opposed, no. 2574 06:01:26,634 --> 06:01:28,407 Motion is unanimous. 2575 06:01:28,407 --> 06:01:30,574 >> Move approval of the consent agenda building fees 2576 06:01:30,574 --> 06:01:32,740 and adjustments. 2577 06:01:32,740 --> 06:01:34,740 >> Second. 2578 06:01:35,314 --> 06:01:38,914 >> Seconded was that Commissioner Gomez Cordero? 2579 06:01:39,571 --> 06:01:40,376 Okay. 2580 06:01:40,376 --> 06:01:42,376 There's a second. 2581 06:01:42,792 --> 06:01:45,170 All in favor let it be known by saying aye. 2582 06:01:45,170 --> 06:01:47,170 Opposed, no. 2583 06:01:47,674 --> 06:01:50,200 >> Move approval of the consent agenda zoning fees 2584 06:01:50,200 --> 06:01:51,714 and adjustment. 2585 06:01:51,714 --> 06:01:52,834 >> Second. 2586 06:01:52,834 --> 06:01:54,755 >> Commissioner Wilson was the second there. 2587 06:01:54,755 --> 06:01:56,605 All in favor let it be known by saying aye. 2588 06:01:56,605 --> 06:01:58,800 Opposed, no. 2589 06:01:58,800 --> 06:02:01,608 Motion passes and it is unanimous. 2590 06:02:02,447 --> 06:02:05,274 >> Move approval of consent agenda item environmental 2591 06:02:05,274 --> 06:02:07,524 protection fees adjustments as written. 2592 06:02:07,524 --> 06:02:09,524 Or as proposed. 2593 06:02:13,438 --> 06:02:14,146 >> Second Wilson. 2594 06:02:14,146 --> 06:02:16,546 >> Seconder is Commissioner Wilson. 2595 06:02:17,198 --> 06:02:19,660 All in favor let it be known by saying aye. 2596 06:02:19,660 --> 06:02:21,660 Opposed, no. 2597 06:02:23,994 --> 06:02:25,994 Motion passes, 4-2. 2598 06:02:34,997 --> 06:02:39,197 >> Was it Scott and Uribe voting no? 2599 06:02:42,740 --> 06:02:42,574 >> Okay. 2600 06:02:42,574 --> 06:02:43,782 Was that the final one? 2601 06:02:43,782 --> 06:02:45,256 That was the final. 2602 06:02:45,256 --> 06:02:49,514 So I think with that, we have now 2603 06:02:49,514 --> 06:02:53,554 taken care of all the business today. 2604 06:02:53,554 --> 06:02:58,354 Commissioner Scott, you had mentioned something to me. 2605 06:03:01,920 --> 06:03:03,634 >> I have an informational item to share with the board based 2606 06:03:03,634 --> 06:03:08,301 on consultation with the Comptroller and his staff. 2607 06:03:08,301 --> 06:03:10,958 So, for the years that I have been in office 2608 06:03:10,958 --> 06:03:16,358 we have purchased twice, and most recently the Comptroller 2609 06:03:16,730 --> 06:03:18,906 wanted that to be a consent item. 2610 06:03:18,906 --> 06:03:21,940 Secondary to that, I purchased pizza 2611 06:03:21,940 --> 06:03:24,354 so you will see items on the consent 2612 06:03:24,354 --> 06:03:29,754 agenda and my conversations with the Comptroller staff, what 2613 06:03:30,238 --> 06:03:32,327 I told them is that public purpose is based 2614 06:03:32,327 --> 06:03:34,177 on the need in the district at the time 2615 06:03:34,177 --> 06:03:39,161 and as we've done through the Citizen Safety Task Force, 2616 06:03:39,161 --> 06:03:41,340 we know that investing in different programs 2617 06:03:41,340 --> 06:03:43,464 reduces the likelihood of someone being involved 2618 06:03:43,464 --> 06:03:44,946 in the criminal justice system. 2619 06:03:44,946 --> 06:03:48,882 It was less than $500 worth of pizza or something for the kids 2620 06:03:48,882 --> 06:03:52,994 at Tangelo Elementary and so that will be coming as a consent 2621 06:03:52,994 --> 06:03:55,914 item so you will see that but I'm putting on the record just 2622 06:03:55,914 --> 06:04:02,114 so you all are aware and I think -- does that cover everything? 2623 06:04:02,114 --> 06:04:07,514 >> Well, I think it's something if I might -- 2624 06:04:08,374 --> 06:04:10,259 I guess I don't need to do that. 2625 06:04:10,259 --> 06:04:10,759 Do I? 2626 06:04:10,759 --> 06:04:14,194 I think that the county policy is the county policy 2627 06:04:14,194 --> 06:04:15,954 and that is what we have to follow, 2628 06:04:15,954 --> 06:04:20,626 so I think if the board wants to spend 2629 06:04:20,626 --> 06:04:23,914 money that isn't necessarily authorized under county policy 2630 06:04:23,914 --> 06:04:26,144 you either need to change the policy 2631 06:04:26,144 --> 06:04:29,744 or prove specific exceptions to it 2632 06:04:30,740 --> 06:04:33,740 like Commissioner Scott is proposing. 2633 06:04:36,394 --> 06:04:39,190 >> What was the problem that was identified by the comptroller? 2634 06:04:39,190 --> 06:04:43,219 That's not clear to me what happened. 2635 06:04:43,754 --> 06:04:46,474 >> What was the policy that was being violated? 2636 06:04:46,474 --> 06:04:49,434 >> I'm first of all going to ask Lori Bauer to come up here 2637 06:04:49,434 --> 06:04:53,874 but one item I just want to amplify is, 2638 06:04:53,874 --> 06:04:58,674 we are not talking about a $500 pizza party. 2639 06:04:59,594 --> 06:05:04,994 You're talking about $4,000 for pizza and toys for children, 2640 06:05:06,170 --> 06:05:10,777 which seems like a very nice cause to me but it is not 2641 06:05:10,777 --> 06:05:11,982 permitted under your policy. 2642 06:05:11,982 --> 06:05:16,574 So if you -- >> But what policy is that? 2643 06:05:16,574 --> 06:05:18,234 >> I don't know the number. 2644 06:05:18,234 --> 06:05:22,654 >> Okay because I was going to say I had it with a $22 postcard 2645 06:05:22,654 --> 06:05:27,454 that was submitted for volunteers that had been 2646 06:05:28,754 --> 06:05:32,300 participating at the end of the year and it was rejected as not 2647 06:05:32,300 --> 06:05:33,240 being public purpose. 2648 06:05:33,240 --> 06:05:35,362 I did have a conversation at the time 2649 06:05:35,362 --> 06:05:39,740 with somebody in your office and said I'm confused. 2650 06:05:39,740 --> 06:05:41,896 This was specifically a thank you 2651 06:05:41,896 --> 06:05:44,906 from them at the end of the year of volunteering and community 2652 06:05:44,906 --> 06:05:46,858 partners and I think there's a public purpose 2653 06:05:46,858 --> 06:05:48,754 to those partnerships. 2654 06:05:48,754 --> 06:05:53,514 So but I still even after that there was never a definitive 2655 06:05:53,514 --> 06:05:57,300 explanation to me about the public purpose and I know you 2656 06:05:57,300 --> 06:05:59,119 all have all heard from me about -- 2657 06:05:59,119 --> 06:06:02,102 and I go to Florida Association of Counties. 2658 06:06:02,102 --> 06:06:03,604 I pay my own travel. 2659 06:06:03,604 --> 06:06:06,325 I always pay for my own hotel and my own meals 2660 06:06:06,325 --> 06:06:11,125 but I have to submit to travel forms. 2661 06:06:14,670 --> 06:06:16,670 [Members speaking concurrently] 2662 06:06:18,922 --> 06:06:19,839 >> I need to say this. 2663 06:06:19,839 --> 06:06:22,239 A couple of things. 2664 06:06:22,543 --> 06:06:26,374 Number one, we are happy to discuss any expenditure 2665 06:06:26,374 --> 06:06:33,574 any time as far as what's under the policy and what's not. 2666 06:06:36,182 --> 06:06:39,182 We offer training to you. 2667 06:06:39,794 --> 06:06:41,794 [Members speaking concurrently] 2668 06:06:42,432 --> 06:06:43,349 >> Hold on one second. 2669 06:06:43,349 --> 06:06:44,994 Because I hate to tell you I don't 2670 06:06:44,994 --> 06:06:47,994 know what you're talking about. 2671 06:06:50,394 --> 06:06:55,794 I don't know that it's appropriate during our budget 2672 06:06:56,634 --> 06:06:57,994 work session. 2673 06:06:57,994 --> 06:07:01,140 If this conversation is about a policy 2674 06:07:01,140 --> 06:07:05,180 that someone thinks needs to be changed, 2675 06:07:05,180 --> 06:07:08,220 I don't believe this is the appropriate time 2676 06:07:08,220 --> 06:07:09,543 to have that conversation. 2677 06:07:09,543 --> 06:07:11,138 We are missing too much information. 2678 06:07:11,138 --> 06:07:15,100 We don't have the details and I think 2679 06:07:15,100 --> 06:07:19,300 if we're going to change policy, we 2680 06:07:19,594 --> 06:07:22,274 should be giving ample notice to the public and other people 2681 06:07:22,274 --> 06:07:26,524 to perhaps have the opportunity to participate in that. 2682 06:07:26,524 --> 06:07:30,435 That hasn't happened because this is not on our agenda 2683 06:07:30,435 --> 06:07:32,180 so I just really don't think that this 2684 06:07:32,180 --> 06:07:37,418 is a appropriate when Commissioner Scott said we did 2685 06:07:38,794 --> 06:07:39,394 something. 2686 06:07:39,394 --> 06:07:41,576 What he had said. 2687 06:07:41,576 --> 06:07:43,108 I didn't do that. 2688 06:07:43,108 --> 06:07:46,274 We did not include me in that. 2689 06:07:46,274 --> 06:07:47,740 Okay? 2690 06:07:47,740 --> 06:07:53,674 And so I thought this was something that we had done, 2691 06:07:53,957 --> 06:07:55,704 and that is not the case so I believe 2692 06:07:55,704 --> 06:07:56,954 that it's not appropriate now. 2693 06:07:56,954 --> 06:08:02,690 I think that is something that if we want to change the policy, 2694 06:08:02,690 --> 06:08:04,487 Commissioner Scott can do a commissioner's report 2695 06:08:04,487 --> 06:08:06,610 or something to bring that before the body 2696 06:08:06,610 --> 06:08:08,474 at an appropriate time but I don't 2697 06:08:08,474 --> 06:08:11,434 think that is appropriate to add on today. 2698 06:08:11,434 --> 06:08:13,434 Is that fair? 2699 06:08:13,654 --> 06:08:17,400 >> I think it's very fair just to be clear. 2700 06:08:17,400 --> 06:08:21,127 I talked to Commissioner Scott a few moments ago 2701 06:08:21,127 --> 06:08:26,187 and said we would put it on the agenda for the specific items 2702 06:08:26,187 --> 06:08:30,874 come August, because that would seem to give everybody a chance 2703 06:08:30,874 --> 06:08:33,274 to look at it. 2704 06:08:33,674 --> 06:08:35,788 >> So what does that mean though? 2705 06:08:35,788 --> 06:08:38,554 We are going to have a consent agenda full of items 2706 06:08:38,554 --> 06:08:40,554 that (Indistinct) 2707 06:08:45,809 --> 06:08:47,434 >> He's talking about this expenditure. 2708 06:08:47,434 --> 06:08:49,994 >> But what expenditures are going to fall under that 2709 06:08:49,994 --> 06:08:51,994 category? 2710 06:08:53,474 --> 06:08:56,378 >> Somebody would have to present whatever that is if they 2711 06:08:56,378 --> 06:08:58,594 think the policies need to change and do a commission 2712 06:08:58,594 --> 06:09:03,994 as a report and do it the right way. 2713 06:09:04,881 --> 06:09:08,200 >> I received communication today from his staff and asked, 2714 06:09:08,200 --> 06:09:12,370 should I just share it as an informational item. 2715 06:09:12,370 --> 06:09:14,154 What I think would be appropriate 2716 06:09:14,154 --> 06:09:16,282 as you said I will do a commissioner's report. 2717 06:09:16,282 --> 06:09:18,229 When you do the consent agenda items 2718 06:09:18,229 --> 06:09:21,200 if you want to just do a memo to encapsulate 2719 06:09:21,200 --> 06:09:23,186 you guys's thoughts from the overwhelming thing 2720 06:09:23,186 --> 06:09:25,519 I was trying to communicate to the board is this. 2721 06:09:25,519 --> 06:09:27,850 Public purpose is subjective and based 2722 06:09:27,850 --> 06:09:29,940 on the needs of the district. 2723 06:09:29,940 --> 06:09:31,682 I have young people getting killed 2724 06:09:31,682 --> 06:09:33,580 at least every other month. 2725 06:09:33,580 --> 06:09:35,664 I talked to a parent last night whose son is dead 2726 06:09:35,664 --> 06:09:37,938 and the other son is a paraplegic 2727 06:09:37,938 --> 06:09:40,357 and their minds are gone because the young man who killed 2728 06:09:40,357 --> 06:09:43,357 them has been released, period. 2729 06:09:45,827 --> 06:09:48,544 Because they have no witnesses so the needs in my district 2730 06:09:48,544 --> 06:09:50,502 are different than each one of you all's and so 2731 06:09:50,502 --> 06:09:51,877 when we talk about public purpose 2732 06:09:51,877 --> 06:09:53,854 there is no one uniform public purpose 2733 06:09:53,854 --> 06:09:56,340 that will fit every district. 2734 06:09:56,340 --> 06:09:56,534 >> Okay. 2735 06:09:56,534 --> 06:09:58,447 So we need to do some work there. 2736 06:09:58,447 --> 06:10:00,567 All I'm saying is that is not today. 2737 06:10:00,567 --> 06:10:02,262 That's not today. 2738 06:10:02,262 --> 06:10:04,804 >> Can I say something though really quick because I do think 2739 06:10:04,804 --> 06:10:06,971 there's something really important about this within 2740 06:10:06,971 --> 06:10:09,257 the budget framework because we do submit our budgets. 2741 06:10:09,257 --> 06:10:10,822 We are trying so hard to. 2742 06:10:10,822 --> 06:10:12,947 I work really hard in my office. 2743 06:10:12,947 --> 06:10:14,234 The transparency piece. 2744 06:10:14,234 --> 06:10:15,594 The accountability piece. 2745 06:10:15,594 --> 06:10:18,140 The making sure that public purpose threads 2746 06:10:18,140 --> 06:10:20,340 through every single thing but it's 2747 06:10:20,340 --> 06:10:23,600 difficult to do when the structure doesn't 2748 06:10:23,600 --> 06:10:24,260 identify it that way. 2749 06:10:24,260 --> 06:10:26,234 Let me just give you an example and this is something 2750 06:10:26,234 --> 06:10:27,780 why I think it's important. 2751 06:10:27,780 --> 06:10:31,856 For any registration we do, so if I 2752 06:10:31,856 --> 06:10:34,740 go in county in my district to a community 2753 06:10:34,740 --> 06:10:37,507 legal services educational forum about housing, 2754 06:10:37,507 --> 06:10:42,927 I put a travel form in even if there's no expense for travel. 2755 06:10:42,927 --> 06:10:46,223 Now that is a budget issue. 2756 06:10:46,223 --> 06:10:46,723 >> Okay. 2757 06:10:46,723 --> 06:10:49,660 I get all of that but that was not 2758 06:10:49,660 --> 06:10:50,791 advertised as part of this conversation 2759 06:10:50,791 --> 06:10:52,374 that we were going to have today okay? 2760 06:10:52,374 --> 06:10:54,378 It's not a budget line item. 2761 06:10:54,378 --> 06:10:57,378 That is a policy decision. 2762 06:11:03,430 --> 06:11:05,443 [Members speaking >> That's fine. 2763 06:11:06,500 --> 06:11:08,111 >> This isn't the right time. 2764 06:11:08,111 --> 06:11:10,611 >> I understand no I understand but I just want to make sure 2765 06:11:10,611 --> 06:11:14,354 because it does fall into our district. 2766 06:11:14,354 --> 06:11:17,594 >> There's probably some other kind of ramifications here. 2767 06:11:17,594 --> 06:11:19,354 Today isn't the time for that. 2768 06:11:19,354 --> 06:11:21,247 That's all I'm saying. 2769 06:11:21,247 --> 06:11:24,847 I don't see that as consistent. 2770 06:11:25,780 --> 06:11:28,874 >> I just want to be clear because other commissioners have 2771 06:11:28,874 --> 06:11:30,466 submitted a commissioners report. 2772 06:11:30,466 --> 06:11:34,264 With respect to a commissioner's report given the schedule now 2773 06:11:34,264 --> 06:11:37,264 and given the things -- 2774 06:11:41,577 --> 06:11:43,577 [Members speaking concurrently] 2775 06:11:43,577 --> 06:11:44,702 >> I just want to be clear. 2776 06:11:44,702 --> 06:11:46,577 I didn't want any other commissioner thinking 2777 06:11:46,577 --> 06:11:49,641 how is this going to jump in front of my? 2778 06:11:49,641 --> 06:11:51,974 >> Asking the question though since we're going to a new 2779 06:11:51,974 --> 06:11:53,610 budget you're talking about October. 2780 06:11:53,610 --> 06:11:56,140 Our budget kicks in October 1st. 2781 06:11:56,140 --> 06:12:00,814 Wouldn't it actually take priority knowing that -- 2782 06:12:01,761 --> 06:12:04,814 [Members speaking >> This is not a budget item. 2783 06:12:04,814 --> 06:12:07,214 That's a policy issue. 2784 06:12:07,307 --> 06:12:10,700 It's a policy issue about how the Comptroller 2785 06:12:10,700 --> 06:12:13,850 interprets policy and then implements and executes 2786 06:12:13,850 --> 06:12:14,522 the policy. 2787 06:12:14,522 --> 06:12:16,740 That is what this is about. 2788 06:12:16,740 --> 06:12:19,291 That is something different than what we are doing today 2789 06:12:19,291 --> 06:12:25,387 so I'm going to -- we're not going to do this today. 2790 06:12:25,387 --> 06:12:26,910 Okay. 2791 06:12:26,910 --> 06:12:30,678 At some point in the future we can have that full conversation. 2792 06:12:30,678 --> 06:12:33,660 I don't like catching people off guard like that. 2793 06:12:33,660 --> 06:12:38,181 I don't think we have any other business, 2794 06:12:38,181 --> 06:12:40,776 based upon what we advertised we were going to do today 2795 06:12:40,776 --> 06:12:44,976 and so with that, we stand adjourned.