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>> Good morning.

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Welcome to the Tuesday August 4th,

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board of County Commission meeting.

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In a moment I will introduce our guest for the invocation.

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Following the invocation and pledge,

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the Communications Division Director Doctor Jeff Williamson

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will read a proclamation recognizing Purple Heart Day

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and introduce the Naco Achievement Awards.

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Reverend Alexander H Smith, also Commissioner Smith,

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is a lifelong educator, minister, community leader,

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and public servant.

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Whose career has been dedicated to faith, education,

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and service.

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Born in Thomasville Georgia, he accepted Christ

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at the age of seven and has called Central Florida

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home since 1965.

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A graduate of Florida A&M University

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with a bachelor's degree in agricultural education

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and a minor in horticultural science, Reverend Smith devoted

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40 years to education, including 39 years in Orange County Public

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schools.

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Throughout his distinguished teaching career

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he received numerous honors for educational excellence

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and served in leadership roles at the local, state and national

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levels and held the positions of the president of the Florida

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Association of Agricultural Educators.

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President of the Orange County Association

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of Agricultural Educators for 21 years.

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And president of the Florida FFA Board of Directors.

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In 2022 he was inducted into the Florida FFA Hall of Fame.

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Reverend Smith has also demonstrated an unwavering

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commitment to civic leadership.

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He served eight years on the City Council.

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Represented the community on numerous advisory boards.

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Continues to serve Orange County Public Schools

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through its Advisory Housing board.

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He is also the project manager for the Grand East Village

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Senior Housing Development.

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Which is currently under construction.

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A respected faith leader, Reverend Smith served for 18

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years as a associate pastor of new Hope Missionary Baptist

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Church, before being installed as pastor on October 22nd, 2023.

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He remains actively involved in several ministerial

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organizations throughout Central Florida.

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His leadership extends nationally through Prince Hall

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Freemasonry.

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Where he has held numerous prestigious offices.

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Including, most worshipful Grand Master of Florida and President

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of the General Grand Masonic Congress of USA.

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Is also the founder of the Prince Hall Scholarship

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and Economic Development Foundation

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and has been recognized with numerous national Masonic Honors

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including the induction into the US Masonic Hall of Fame.

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Reverend Smith is married to his wife Linda

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and together they are blessed with five children.

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14 grandchildren.

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And five great grandchildren.

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His life and ministry continue to be guided

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by his favorite scripture.

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Therefore if any man be in Christ he is a new creature.

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Reverend Smith, please join us for prayer.

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Thank you so much.

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[Applause]

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>> Let us pray.

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Our heavenly father, thank you for this new day.

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Thank you for the gift of freedom to come together today.

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We ask for God now that you would bless these county

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commissioners.

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Oh God that you would give them the discernment that may

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make them make wise decisions.

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That you would bless all endeavors and all

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they shall say and do.

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Bless this community.

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We thank You and thy son Jesus.

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Amen.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States

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of America.

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And to the republic for which it stands one nation under God

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indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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>> Thank you very much.

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Thank you very much Reverend Smith.

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As the vice mayor said, we do have

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one proclamation for today and then one special presentation.

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The proclamation that we have today is for Purple Heart Day.

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Purple Heart Day, the proclamation reads,

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whereas August 7th, 1782, General George Washington,

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then the commander in chief of the Continental Army established

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a Purple Heart Award, originally designated as the Badge

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of Military merit, as a sign of appreciation and gratitude

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towards those who served during wartime.

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Whereas Purple Heart recipients, men and women of extraordinary

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courage, have offered the highest form of devotion

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to our nation, having faced the harshest of battles,

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endure the most grueling conditions,

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and borne the scars of conflict, all in the name of liberty

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and justice, and whereas August 7th is a day for Americans

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to remember the men and women who bravely represented

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their country and were wounded or killed while serving,

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and were decorated with the Purple Heart in the name

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of the president.

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And whereas it is important not only to remember and thank

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the brave young men and women who have been wounded in combat

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but also how they are taken care of when they return home,

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including acknowledgment of their unique needs as veterans.

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Whereas for as long as U.S. Service

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members placed their life on the line

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against the nation's enemies, the Purple Heart Medal

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honors their sacrifice and carries

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the legacy of George Washington and his ideals

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and honoring contributions of volunteers and those

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putting their lives in danger.

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A hallmark of the U.S. Armed Forces.

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And whereas it is the desire of the Orange County

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Board of Commissioners to recognize

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the many members of the general Bob Betts, chapter 400, Military

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Order of the Purple Heart who reside in Orange County Florida

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and have received the Purple Heart recognition of wounds

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sustained in combat, including those

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who have made the ultimate sacrifice with their lives.

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Now therefore, mayor Jerry, by virtue of authority vested

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in him, Orange County Mayor does hereby proclaim Friday,

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August 7th, 2026, as Purple Heart Day in Orange County.

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For the sacrifices Purple Heart recipients

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have made in defending and preserving our freedoms.

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Done in order this fourth day of August,

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2026, signed by the mayor and all five members of the Board

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of County Commissioners.

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Accepting the proclamation is David Mercado.

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Mr. Mercado is the commander of chapter 400 Military

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Order of the Purple Heart.

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Mr. Mercado?

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>> Good morning commissioners.

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Folks here today.

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I accept that proclamation in honor of all of our veterans

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who have served throughout all conflicts and skirmishes

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throughout the entire world.

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And to all Gold Star parents and families who are present

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and who are not present.

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We must remember that our men and women have served

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this entire country and sacrificed their lives

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throughout the world.

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We had 460 000 members in World War Two killed,

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sacrificed their lives in defense of America and freedom.

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We've also had more than 1.1 million members who received

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Purple Hearts in World War Two.

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In the Korean War we had 36,000 members killed.

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Sacrificing their lives for this great nation.

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And more than 100,000, 100 Wounded in that war of Korea.

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In Vietnam we had more than 250 000 members killed in that war

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in Vietnam.

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Excuse me.

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36.

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We had 36,000 killed in Korea.

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And we've had 55 double 58,000 members killed in the war

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in Vietnam.

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And 352 wounded in that war in Vietnam.

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This is how far we have gone to risk our lives

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and sacrifice our lives for this great country.

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We have just celebrated 250 years of independence.

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And we will continue to sacrifice and defend

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this great nation.

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We have to keep in thought our members who

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are serving throughout the world, right now.

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So they can be safe and we can continue enjoying

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the freedom we have here.

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Freedom is not free.

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Thank you very much for being present

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and have a good day, ladies and gentlemen.

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>> Grab a picture first with Mr. Mercado alone.

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Then we'll ask the members to take a picture as well.

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I'll write, gentleman, would you mind?

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Ladies and gentlemen, would you mind joining for a photograph,

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please?

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And hang on one more second.

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Members of the mayor's council, please.

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If you wouldn't mind grabbing a photograph as well.

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Let's give our men and women a round of applause.

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Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen.

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And a quick shout out to Shelly Wong who manages the Veterans

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Advisory Council.

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Thank you Shelly for the hard work you do.

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Appreciate you Shelly.

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Yes sir, you're welcome.

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All right now it's time for another very

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special presentation.

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Your county employees, ladies and gentlemen,

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are busy and doing great things.

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And in return they have won many awards for their hard work

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from the National Association of Counties or Naco.

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I'm going to call on Jane, the communications manager,

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to present those awards at this time.

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Jane?

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>> Thank you Jeff.

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Good morning everyone, commissioners,

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Commissioner to be.

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Senior staff.

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Orange County employees and guests.

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And I know Mayor Demings is watching from afar.

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Today we're going to celebrate something truly special.

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33 awards were earned by the Orange County government

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Departments and Division and recognition

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of outstanding public service, innovation, and excellence.

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These honors come from the National Association

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of Counties or Naco.

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The nation's leading organization representing

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county governments.

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Each year Naco recognizes the best and most innovative county

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programs across the country.

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Receiving a Naco Award means Orange County's work

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is being recognized among the very best in the nation.

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Every program we recognize today reflects our employees

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commitment to serving residents and making

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Orange County a great place to live, work and thrive.

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Let's get started with our community and family services

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winners.

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There's 11 of them.

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County Administrator Books is here.

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Vice Mayor Kelly Martinez summer had.

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Let's go ahead with our first one.

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The Credible Messengers Naco Award.

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as I read this, will all commissioners please come down

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and stand with our recipients.

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Thank you.

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Orange County Governments the first agency

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to employ credible messengers.

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Trusted community leaders who support youth

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impacted by the justice system.

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Since implementation, the initiative

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has contributed to reduction in violent juvenile crime.

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Congratulations.

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We want you to stand on the other side. (laughs)

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Next up, it would be our domestic violence transportation

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mini grant initiative.

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The domestic violence transportation mini grant

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initiative removes a critical barrier for survivors

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by providing safe, reliable transportation through trusted

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nonprofit partners.

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In 2025, the program provided over 500 rides

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for 170 domestic violence survivors and for pets.

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Helping them connect families to shelters, medical care,

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and other essential services.

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Well done.

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Next up is a small scale citizens review panel which

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is another big award winner.

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Orange county's small scale Citizens Review panel fund

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distribution process expands access

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to public funding for grassroots organizations.

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And nonprofits Pinkston's implementation

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has funded 52 organizations, distributed more than $5

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million, and helped nearly 90% of the recipients

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receive county funding for the very first time.

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Excellent.

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orange county's community navigation initiative.

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The community navigation and real time services connection

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initiative brings services directly to residents,

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to community ambassadors, and engagement managers.

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The program has connected more than 5400 residents

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to resources peered through proactive outreach.

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Resulting in nearly 2500 service referrals.

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Great job, everyone.

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[Applause]

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all right.

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Next up is Orange County mayor's public sector Academy.

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Orange County partnered with Careersource of Central Florida

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to host the mayor's Public Sector Career Academy.

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It introduces high school students

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to careers in local government.

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Through a month long paid summer program.

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Since its launch, the Academy has served 90 students

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with four participants hired by the county and many more who

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want to return to the county to work for Orange County

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government.

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Congratulations.

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[Applause]

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And thank you Careersource, so much, for partnering with us.

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Next up is Orange County's capacity building initiative.

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Our citizens Commission for children,

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in partnership with UCF, strengthened grassroots

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nonprofit through an initiative to improve

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financial management and organizational effectiveness.

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From 2023 to 2025 more than 100 organizations

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participated, achieving a 38% increase in overall competency

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and building a stronger pipeline for sustainable, community

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service.

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Excellent job, everyone.

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[Applause]

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Orlando collected his next.

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To celebrate the city of Orlando's 150th anniversary,

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the Orange County Regional History Center created Orlando

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Collective.

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And exhibition featuring 100 rarely seen

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artifacts from the Historical Society of Central Florida.

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Curated with input from community members

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and local leaders, the exhibition

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inspired residents to connect with and help preserve

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our region's shared history.

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Thank you.

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[Applause]

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I know this is something near and dear to commissioners.

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The Lake Apopka Connector Trail.

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The 10 million Lake Apopka Connector Trail

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was completed in February.

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Adding 3.3 miles of multi-use path

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that links the West Orange Trail to the North Shore Trail.

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To complete 48 Mile Lake Apopka Loop Trail

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now connects Orange and Lake counties.

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Our Parks and Recreation wanted to give a big shout out

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to Public Works, engineering, highway construction,

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and transportation planning, for all the teamwork

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it took to make the Lake Apopka Connector Trail.

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Good job, everyone.

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[Applause]

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Next up is our pollination.

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Integrating public art, agriculture, and nutrition.

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This is a mobile teaching kitchen,

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with agricultural science and nutrition education.

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It improved food literacy, promoted healthy behaviors,

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and brought UF IFAs extension learning through public spaces

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for youth and adult audiences.

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[Applause]

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and we're going to be honoring UF IFAs a little bit more

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with two more awards.

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The Florida Native Landscaping Education.

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The UF IFAs extension Florida Native Landscaping education

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and water Conservation Initiative

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promotes native plant use and water conservation

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through education, demonstrations,

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and hands on resources.

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Reaching more than 350 participants,

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the program has helped residents convert landscapes

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to native plants and has conserved roughly 9 million

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gallons of water every year.

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[Applause]

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and last but not least, for our family services,

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the peanut butter challenge.

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Another UF IFAs extension program

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is the peanut butter Challenge.

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It's a volunteer food drive.

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County departments community partners and Four-h youth

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come together to support local food pantries.

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The program has grown from 800 pounds, collected in 2020,

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2,200 pounds in 2025.

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For 17 local food pantries.

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Thank you, everyone.

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We're moving on to our awesome peds department.

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Planning environmental and Development services.

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We are talking about the peds Strategic Management Plan.

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Our peds department launched first strategic Management

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plan to unify operations and improve service

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across seven divisions.

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The plan has cut development review times in half.

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Supported more than 10 billion in projects.

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And strengthened efficiency, transparency,

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and public engagement congratulations.

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[Applause]

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thank you.

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But that's not all.

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Let's talk about peds web.

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A virtual professional development initiative offering

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staff led training leadership sessions,

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and collaborative opportunities.

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Since February 2025 the program has hosted 16 sessions,

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with more than 1900 employee engagements.

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Strengthening learning combat leadership development,

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and workforce connection.

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Congratulations.

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[Applause]

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Now it's time for our environmental awards.

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Orange County pollution prevention,

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turning awareness into action.

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Orange County marked the 40th anniversary of the National

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Pollution Prevention Roundtable with events promoting waste

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reduction, reuse, and environmental stewardship.

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The initiative engaged more than 250 participants and diverted

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over 1,700 pounds of waste from landfills.

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Through a pair of events, cleanups, and community

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education programs.

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Excellent job.

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[Applause]

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another environmental award is Orange County's Green Place

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program, which uses a data driven approach

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to protect environmentally sensitive lands.

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Preserving land nearly 27 acres.

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Including 20,000 acres within the Florida Wildlife Corridor.

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Through strategic purchases and partnerships,

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the Green Place program serves as a model

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for large scale conservation.

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And we're so happy that you're all being recognized today.

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Thank you.

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Let's crowd in their.

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[Applause] Good job everyone.

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Next up is Orange County recovers.

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Hurricane Ian housing recovery program.

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Orange County recovers was launched in March of 2025

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to help low to moderate homeowners repair,

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reconstruct, or Replace homes damaged by Hurricane Ian.

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The initiative has received more than 435 applications

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and is helping residents return to safe housing

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while strengthening community resilience.

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Kudos to you all.

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[Applause]

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all right next up is our awesome Public Works.

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Yes.

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And the first award is for the Kerkin Road Extension project.

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Orange County partnered with universal

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to deliver the 315 million Kirkman Road extension.

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With a 1.7 mile multimodal corridor.

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Improving mobility and reducing congestion and supporting

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regional growth the project creates a vital connection

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to major tourism and employment while advancing the county's

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I-drive 2040 vision Plan.

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[Applause]

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next up is Orange County sidewalk gaps assessment.

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Orange County transformed sidewalk planning and delivery

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through a data driven system that identifies, evaluates,

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and prioritizes improvements prepared

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by using a GIS database, objective scoring, and project

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bundling, the county is delivering

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a safer, more accessible, and more equitable

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pedestrian infrastructure.

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Let's hear it for the Orange County Sidewalk Gaps Assessment

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Program.

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Yes.

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[Applause]

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Thank you all.

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[Applause] Next up is AltaVista mitigation project.

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Orange County is 24.3 million AltaVista flood mitigation

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project transformed one of the county's most flood prone

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neighborhoods.

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By expanding stormwater capacity and adding

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critical infrastructure.

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The system proved its value during Hurricane Milton in 2024.

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Providing -- preventing street and residential flooding after

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nearly ten inches of rain fell in the area.

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Well done, everyone.

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[Applause]

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On to human resources, with three awards.

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With ozone mind matters campaign.

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Orange county's Ozone Mind Matters initiative

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supports employee mental health through awareness training

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and access to resources.

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The 2025 campaign saw a 212% rise in on site counseling use

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and completion of mental health first aid training by 1300

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managers peer ozone mind Matters team also won, you'll see,

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a national award, from the National

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Association of Government Communicators Blue Pencil

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and Gold Screen Awards.

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First place for internal communications campaign.

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Weldon.

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Next is HR recruiting online hiring.

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This initiative streamline Orange County's hiring approval

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process by replacing fragmented emails

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and manual tracking with centralized web based forms

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and shared recruitment trackers pick the solution reduce

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duplicate work, improved accuracy,

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and saved an average of five minutes per hiring request.

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Well done everyone.

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Excellent job.

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[Applause]

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thank you everyone.

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This next award is near and dear to every Orange County employee.

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Take your child to work day.

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[Laughter]

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[Applause]

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orange county's 2025 take your Child

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to Work day transform into a county wide initiative that

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strengthened employee engagement and children to the impact

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of public service.

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The event engaged 570 participants

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across 14 departments.

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The HR team was also honored with a National award.

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The press a Anvil Award of Excellence for

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Take Your Child to Work day.

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In other words this program was recognized nationally

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for its excellent work.

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Thank you, everyone.

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Next up, Arts and culture.

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Canvas, a cultural plan for the City of Orlando and Orange

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County.

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This is a ten year roadmap to strengthen and celebrate

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the region's arts and culture.

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Adopted in September of 2025, the plan

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is being implemented with guidance from Canvas Cultural

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Plan Committee.

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[Applause]

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and with the second award, it's going

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to be Orange County's annual act award.

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Celebrating arts and cultural tourism.

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This honor recognizes art and cultural tourism organizations

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that receive Orange County's cultural tourism grants.

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Funded by the.

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The Tourist Development tax.

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The program awarded more than $5 million

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to 39 organizations in fiscal year 2025.

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Thank you all.

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[Applause]

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We are good?

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Okay.

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For the next two is our -- great to see you guys!.

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Information services division.

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I s.

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So they'll stay up there and I'll read both the words.

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The first one is called AI threat Hunter.

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Orange County developed and AI enabled cybersecurity solution

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that analyze security data in real time

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to identify potential threats.

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The system improve threat detection saves an estimated 750

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staff hours a month and delivers $19,000 a month in savings.

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[Applause]

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the next program is Nexus One.

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Orange County's web application that

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centralizes staff information for multiple internal systems.

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Thank you all.

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To Orange County Fire Rescue Department.

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All right.

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[Applause]

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oh CFRD.

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Has a beautiful training center, if you're not aware of it.

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It strengthens public safety through workforce development,

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firefighter training, and career opportunities for the community.

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The training center is a $53 million

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state of the art facility.

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It enhances regional preparedness,

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with advanced training spaces and supports

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a highly skilled and resilient workforce.

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Well done.

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[Applause]

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That's it for Orange County Fire Rescue pick just one award.

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But we love you guys every day. (laughs)

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Next is utilities.

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A new day.

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County wide curbside collection transition.

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Orange County utilities successfully

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transitioned to a new curbside come a solid waste and recycling

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collection contract, through its outreach campaign,

542
00:36:38,791 --> 00:36:40,151
called a new Day.

543
00:36:40,151 --> 00:36:43,171
It ensured uninterrupted service for more than 230

544
00:36:43,171 --> 00:36:47,371
5000 households across a 1000 square mile service area.

545
00:36:48,127 --> 00:36:52,271
The 18 month effort improved road efficiency strengthened

546
00:36:52,271 --> 00:36:55,511
recycling performance, and launched smoothly on December

547
00:36:55,511 --> 00:36:58,361
29th of last year with minimal disruptions.

548
00:36:58,361 --> 00:37:01,801
You know what it's like when you get a new solid waste schedule.

549
00:37:01,801 --> 00:37:03,310
These guys are the pros.

550
00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:04,911
We had very few complaints.

551
00:37:04,911 --> 00:37:07,911
Congratulations to all of you.

552
00:37:14,502 --> 00:37:16,502
[Applause]

553
00:37:21,751 --> 00:37:26,551
Risk management is up next followed by procurement.

554
00:37:27,310 --> 00:37:29,735
Orange County single parent captive insurer.

555
00:37:29,735 --> 00:37:32,991
So for risk management Orange County

556
00:37:32,991 --> 00:37:36,631
established its own single parent captive insurer carrier

557
00:37:36,631 --> 00:37:38,851
to provide an alternative risk transfer solution

558
00:37:38,851 --> 00:37:41,479
and help manage rising commercial insurance costs.

559
00:37:41,479 --> 00:37:43,911
In its first ten months this program

560
00:37:43,911 --> 00:37:46,911
generated approximately $6 million in savings.

561
00:37:47,347 --> 00:37:49,347
Excellent job.

562
00:37:59,551 --> 00:38:03,727
[Applause] Thank you thank you, risk management.

563
00:38:03,727 --> 00:38:05,164
Next up is procurement.

564
00:38:05,164 --> 00:38:07,564
They're always award winners.

565
00:38:07,651 --> 00:38:09,471
AI enabled procurement governance.

566
00:38:09,471 --> 00:38:14,191
Orange County implemented an AI enabled procurement governance

567
00:38:14,191 --> 00:38:18,711
framework to improve efficiency consistency and risk management.

568
00:38:18,711 --> 00:38:21,151
Using AI assisted tools with human oversight.

569
00:38:21,151 --> 00:38:25,351
The program reduces, reworks, strengthens document quality,

570
00:38:25,924 --> 00:38:29,261
and streamlines procurement and project review processes.

571
00:38:29,261 --> 00:38:34,661
They were recognized by this with the Naco Award.

572
00:38:43,934 --> 00:38:45,934
[Applause]

573
00:38:45,991 --> 00:38:48,504
the next two awards is for our team.

574
00:38:48,504 --> 00:38:51,551
I'm going to read both of them and our team will go up.

575
00:38:51,551 --> 00:38:52,673
The communications team.

576
00:38:52,673 --> 00:38:54,590
We received an award for the mayor's toy drive

577
00:38:54,590 --> 00:38:57,571
because it's in its 15th year and we've distributed 90,000

578
00:38:57,571 --> 00:38:59,859
toys to children and families in need.

579
00:38:59,859 --> 00:39:01,651
The other is called Truth and Transparency.

580
00:39:01,651 --> 00:39:04,975
We got a national award for this.

581
00:39:04,975 --> 00:39:07,975
July of 2025, Orange County government

582
00:39:08,851 --> 00:39:12,564
was accused by state officials of fraud and misspending tax

583
00:39:12,564 --> 00:39:13,231
dollars.

584
00:39:13,231 --> 00:39:15,471
Creating significant reputational risk

585
00:39:15,471 --> 00:39:18,711
the county's communication team responded with transparency,

586
00:39:18,711 --> 00:39:21,711
facts, and data appeared to reinforce the public's trust

587
00:39:21,711 --> 00:39:24,271
and commitment to responsible stewardship and taxpayer

588
00:39:24,271 --> 00:39:24,771
dollars.

589
00:39:24,771 --> 00:39:26,981
The response by the comms team also

590
00:39:26,981 --> 00:39:32,981
earned a national PRSA Anvil Award of Excellence as well.

591
00:39:36,841 --> 00:39:38,841
[Applause]

592
00:39:59,342 --> 00:40:01,342
[Applause]

593
00:40:01,951 --> 00:40:06,791
And now I want to call your attention to our final award.

594
00:40:06,791 --> 00:40:09,751
We saved a national award for last.

595
00:40:09,751 --> 00:40:13,856
It is called vision Zero, orange County.

596
00:40:13,856 --> 00:40:16,571
County wide commitment to eliminating traffic fatalities.

597
00:40:16,571 --> 00:40:18,991
This award highlights how Orange County

598
00:40:18,991 --> 00:40:21,840
is transforming its transportation

599
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,943
safety through its Vision Zero initiative.

600
00:40:23,943 --> 00:40:27,111
A data driven effort to eliminate traffic fatalities

601
00:40:27,111 --> 00:40:29,511
and serious injuries by 2040.

602
00:40:29,751 --> 00:40:32,764
By embedding safety into every transportation project

603
00:40:32,764 --> 00:40:34,999
and using data Cumberland County has

604
00:40:34,999 --> 00:40:38,571
shifted from reacting to crashes, to preventing them.

605
00:40:38,571 --> 00:40:40,444
This proactive approach has already

606
00:40:40,444 --> 00:40:42,110
produced impressive results.

607
00:40:42,110 --> 00:40:44,583
I want to hear the results.

608
00:40:44,583 --> 00:40:47,583
A 28% reduction in traffic fatalities

609
00:40:47,884 --> 00:40:49,884
between 2022 and 2024.

610
00:40:50,531 --> 00:40:54,731
The manager of our Traffic Engineer division,

611
00:40:54,951 --> 00:40:58,536
Humberto Castelo, accepted the national Award in New Orleans

612
00:40:58,536 --> 00:40:59,360
last month.

613
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,631
I want to say one thing again about this award.

614
00:41:01,631 --> 00:41:04,764
This proactive approach for Vision Zero

615
00:41:04,764 --> 00:41:08,711
has included a 20% reduction in traffic fatalities

616
00:41:08,711 --> 00:41:10,711
between 2022 and 2024.

617
00:41:11,140 --> 00:41:13,424
Remember, we were number one.

618
00:41:13,424 --> 00:41:15,457
We are now down to like number 25.

619
00:41:15,457 --> 00:41:17,255
And it's because of these people.

620
00:41:17,255 --> 00:41:19,655
So, thank you all.

621
00:41:24,770 --> 00:41:26,770
[Applause]

622
00:41:49,591 --> 00:41:51,591
Thank you everyone.

623
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:54,710
Congratulations.

624
00:41:55,310 --> 00:41:57,310
Fantastic results.

625
00:41:57,111 --> 00:41:59,591
Congratulations to all our award recipients.

626
00:41:59,591 --> 00:42:03,151
These words are a testament to Orange County's creativity,

627
00:42:03,151 --> 00:42:05,860
dedication, and teamwork.

628
00:42:05,860 --> 00:42:08,510
Of our employees who serve our residents every day.

629
00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:10,302
It was an honor to present these awards.

630
00:42:10,302 --> 00:42:10,802
Thank you.

631
00:42:10,802 --> 00:42:13,551
And now on to the County Commission meeting.

632
00:42:13,551 --> 00:42:15,551
Thank you, everyone.

633
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:26,870
[Background Conversation]

634
00:42:28,430 --> 00:42:30,430
[Laughter]

635
00:43:24,618 --> 00:43:24,625
>> Good morning everybody before we begin,

636
00:43:24,625 --> 00:43:25,930
mayor Demings is not joining us today,

637
00:43:25,930 --> 00:43:27,781
but he's doing very well he's recovering.

638
00:43:27,781 --> 00:43:32,577
We send him prayers and extra get well wishes.

639
00:43:32,577 --> 00:43:34,977
I am Kelly Sommer.

640
00:43:35,404 --> 00:43:37,428
I'm serving as vice mayor today.

641
00:43:37,428 --> 00:43:37,928
Welcome.

642
00:43:37,928 --> 00:43:40,891
I do see we're going to move into public comment

643
00:43:40,891 --> 00:43:44,310
and I do see we have some public officials here.

644
00:43:44,310 --> 00:43:47,151
I would like to offer them to come to the podium first.

645
00:43:47,151 --> 00:43:51,310
I see Doctor Anna V Eskamani, state representative.

646
00:43:51,310 --> 00:43:53,310
Welcome.

647
00:43:54,431 --> 00:43:56,414
>> We do need you to read the statement.

648
00:43:56,414 --> 00:43:58,331
>> Oh come on I do need to read the statement.

649
00:43:58,331 --> 00:43:59,999
One moment, doctor.

650
00:43:59,999 --> 00:44:03,631
I would like to invite comments from members

651
00:44:03,631 --> 00:44:06,303
of the public regarding topics of interest or concern.

652
00:44:06,303 --> 00:44:08,671
That are within this board's authority.

653
00:44:08,671 --> 00:44:10,163
However, there are certain matters

654
00:44:10,163 --> 00:44:12,121
which are not appropriate for public discussion

655
00:44:12,121 --> 00:44:14,171
during this public comment period.

656
00:44:14,171 --> 00:44:17,887
These matters include pending procurement or land use issues

657
00:44:17,887 --> 00:44:21,191
or concerns that should be properly brought

658
00:44:21,191 --> 00:44:24,991
to another board, rather than this board.

659
00:44:24,991 --> 00:44:28,510
Also, we will of course solicit public input

660
00:44:28,510 --> 00:44:31,276
during each public hearing scheduled for this afternoon.

661
00:44:31,276 --> 00:44:33,511
Speakers are limited to two minutes.

662
00:44:33,511 --> 00:44:37,111
And now I welcome Doctor Eskamani.

663
00:44:39,561 --> 00:44:43,161
Nick, how many speakers are there?

664
00:44:44,631 --> 00:44:46,631
20?

665
00:44:50,310 --> 00:44:51,591
>> Thank you so much Vice Mayor.

666
00:44:51,591 --> 00:44:53,679
Entire Board of commission and staff.

667
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:55,831
It was such a joy to see everyone get their flowers

668
00:44:55,831 --> 00:44:56,511
this morning.

669
00:44:56,511 --> 00:44:58,110
Congratulations to all the employees

670
00:44:58,110 --> 00:45:00,655
who worked so hard to deliver on the promise of serving

671
00:45:00,655 --> 00:45:01,263
our community.

672
00:45:01,263 --> 00:45:04,351
I also wanted to add come and give a shout out,

673
00:45:04,351 --> 00:45:06,943
I'm sure Mayor Demings is watching.

674
00:45:06,943 --> 00:45:12,491
Just in addition, we just shared vice Mayor, my love

675
00:45:12,491 --> 00:45:15,917
and support and healing energy for a quick recovery

676
00:45:15,917 --> 00:45:17,384
back to the Dias.

677
00:45:17,384 --> 00:45:20,687
My name is Representative Doctor Navia Eskamani

678
00:45:20,687 --> 00:45:23,124
and I'm so excited to be here for two main reasons

679
00:45:23,124 --> 00:45:25,624
I never had the chance to come before the County Commission.

680
00:45:25,624 --> 00:45:27,751
Thank you again for this opportunity.

681
00:45:27,751 --> 00:45:30,802
Congratulations on what I hope to be

682
00:45:30,802 --> 00:45:33,451
the passage of a very important decision

683
00:45:33,451 --> 00:45:37,761
today on the mobile temporary Overnight Shelter ordinance.

684
00:45:37,761 --> 00:45:40,471
We've seen the connect for seven program

685
00:45:40,471 --> 00:45:42,607
be very successful in the city of Orlando

686
00:45:42,607 --> 00:45:44,971
and I have volunteered with organizations

687
00:45:44,971 --> 00:45:48,964
like Samaritan Resource Center and others over the years.

688
00:45:48,964 --> 00:45:50,931
I grew up in East Orange County.

689
00:45:50,931 --> 00:45:54,171
I grew up at the intersection of Lake Pickett and Colonial.

690
00:45:54,171 --> 00:45:56,691
I know the need to serve our unhoused community

691
00:45:56,691 --> 00:45:58,615
goes far beyond the city limits.

692
00:45:58,615 --> 00:46:00,514
I'm grateful for your tedious work on this.

693
00:46:00,514 --> 00:46:02,231
For your rigor on it.

694
00:46:02,231 --> 00:46:05,183
And for what I hope to be a passage later today.

695
00:46:05,183 --> 00:46:06,951
With that said, the other issue that

696
00:46:06,951 --> 00:46:11,631
brings me here and up until a year ago, I wouldn't think I

697
00:46:11,631 --> 00:46:12,411
would be here.

698
00:46:12,411 --> 00:46:13,583
But it's about sloths.

699
00:46:13,583 --> 00:46:16,994
Of course the effort to prevent another sloth world tragedy.

700
00:46:16,994 --> 00:46:20,531
And what I have found to be so impactful in the last eight

701
00:46:20,531 --> 00:46:23,151
years of my time before the legislature,

702
00:46:23,151 --> 00:46:25,255
is animal welfare knows no party.

703
00:46:25,255 --> 00:46:26,751
People of all political backgrounds

704
00:46:26,751 --> 00:46:28,207
care about the health and well-being of animals

705
00:46:28,207 --> 00:46:29,631
in the state of Florida.

706
00:46:29,631 --> 00:46:31,337
Whether it's a debate over bear hunts

707
00:46:31,337 --> 00:46:34,710
and their prevention of expanding or renewing

708
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:37,311
those, whether it's the health of Lake Eola swans,

709
00:46:37,311 --> 00:46:40,461
or today the conservation of sloths.

710
00:46:40,461 --> 00:46:45,651
We don't have to relive the controversy and tragedy today.

711
00:46:45,651 --> 00:46:50,451
I know, Commissioner Wilson, you have a presentation.

712
00:46:50,575 --> 00:46:53,111
It's important to remember where the number one tourism

713
00:46:53,111 --> 00:46:56,583
destination in the world and what happened at world

714
00:46:56,583 --> 00:46:59,310
has created a huge stain on that record.

715
00:46:59,310 --> 00:47:03,167
We have been leading the charge alongside members of this county

716
00:47:03,167 --> 00:47:06,767
Commission of accountability, seeking criminal charges

717
00:47:06,831 --> 00:47:10,246
for the actors involved, but also seeking statewide reform

718
00:47:10,246 --> 00:47:13,211
and we are in conversation with the Florida Wildlife Commission

719
00:47:13,211 --> 00:47:16,181
to prevent another tragedy like this from happening.

720
00:47:16,181 --> 00:47:20,311
These were wild caught sloths, stolen from their environment,

721
00:47:20,311 --> 00:47:22,386
brought to Orlando for human entertainment.

722
00:47:22,386 --> 00:47:24,687
This was never an accredited facility.

723
00:47:24,687 --> 00:47:27,519
It was never a facility designed to educate or provide

724
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:29,211
a good, secure environment.

725
00:47:29,211 --> 00:47:32,631
It was purely designed to make profit

726
00:47:32,631 --> 00:47:36,231
off the sweet, sweet, vulnerable sloths.

727
00:47:36,331 --> 00:47:39,367
Which I know the commissioner will do an excellent job

728
00:47:39,367 --> 00:47:40,911
in providing all the context.

729
00:47:40,911 --> 00:47:42,871
I really want to take a moment this morning

730
00:47:42,871 --> 00:47:44,895
to express my support for this effort.

731
00:47:44,895 --> 00:47:47,657
Things can move slowly at the state level.

732
00:47:47,657 --> 00:47:51,851
The next meeting, will be able to get a public hearing

733
00:47:51,851 --> 00:47:52,919
on rule changes.

734
00:47:52,919 --> 00:47:55,919
It won't be until December.

735
00:47:58,591 --> 00:48:02,151
I just want to again express my gratitude and my support

736
00:48:02,151 --> 00:48:05,311
and I appreciate everyone's work every single day.

737
00:48:05,311 --> 00:48:06,988
And I hope to see you soon.

738
00:48:06,988 --> 00:48:09,388
Thank you so much.

739
00:48:09,631 --> 00:48:11,831
>> Thank you, doctor Eskamani.

740
00:48:11,831 --> 00:48:14,457
I did see also doctor Jim Moyers.

741
00:48:14,457 --> 00:48:16,324
Is he still here?

742
00:48:16,324 --> 00:48:17,771
From Soil and water.

743
00:48:17,771 --> 00:48:20,171
Come on up, sir.

744
00:48:27,310 --> 00:48:30,631
And then Nick, following doctor Moyer.

745
00:48:30,919 --> 00:48:34,455
We don't have any other elected officials, correct?

746
00:48:34,455 --> 00:48:38,430
Can you call the first three names,

747
00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:42,243
they can shuffle in behind doctor Moyer.

748
00:48:51,118 --> 00:48:53,118
[reading names]

749
00:48:58,191 --> 00:48:58,630
>> Good morning, vice mayor, commissioners my name is doctor

750
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:59,490
Jim Moyer.

751
00:48:59,490 --> 00:49:03,457
I'm elected orange swan water conservation district

752
00:49:03,457 --> 00:49:05,831
supervisor, serving Northwest orange.

753
00:49:05,831 --> 00:49:08,310
And as always this is my presentation.

754
00:49:08,310 --> 00:49:09,631
And mine alone.

755
00:49:09,631 --> 00:49:13,791
First of all, my prayers go out to the mayor.

756
00:49:13,791 --> 00:49:17,391
He's in my prayers every day.

757
00:49:17,871 --> 00:49:22,710
I'm certain it all will go well.

758
00:49:22,145 --> 00:49:25,745
I'm here this morning -- secondly,

759
00:49:26,415 --> 00:49:29,871
I'd like to thank you for bringing Pastor Smith here

760
00:49:29,871 --> 00:49:30,511
today.

761
00:49:30,511 --> 00:49:35,999
Because when I had a fundraiser for Archville and Water

762
00:49:35,999 --> 00:49:40,822
last year, I didn't know how it would go.

763
00:49:40,822 --> 00:49:44,284
And former Apakah Commissioner Pastor Smith

764
00:49:44,284 --> 00:49:48,251
was the first one to generously donate to the fundraiser.

765
00:49:48,251 --> 00:49:50,651
The timing was outstanding.

766
00:49:51,215 --> 00:49:56,615
I'm here today to thank the mayor, administrator Brooks,

767
00:50:02,937 --> 00:50:04,937
and family Services.

768
00:50:07,871 --> 00:50:13,417
Eddie in Family Services has done an outstanding job reaching

769
00:50:13,417 --> 00:50:19,377
out to work with me to try to get an initiative to work

770
00:50:19,377 --> 00:50:21,367
with the public one on one.

771
00:50:21,367 --> 00:50:25,567
In Northwest Orange in the unincorporated areas.

772
00:50:26,211 --> 00:50:28,615
It looks like we're making great progress.

773
00:50:28,615 --> 00:50:31,167
We're going to have the opportunity

774
00:50:31,167 --> 00:50:36,551
to work with the public one on one, to come in for office hours

775
00:50:36,551 --> 00:50:40,591
and we can go over the three things I've

776
00:50:40,591 --> 00:50:42,511
been promoting for a while.

777
00:50:42,511 --> 00:50:47,911
One, change your habits peer to, conserve water use.

778
00:50:48,151 --> 00:50:51,151
And three clean water bottles.

779
00:50:52,471 --> 00:50:54,823
Again, thank you for your time.

780
00:50:54,823 --> 00:50:58,991
Great job, vice mayor, in the mayor's absence.

781
00:50:58,991 --> 00:51:01,991
And God bless you all.

782
00:51:14,455 --> 00:51:18,655
>> The next speaker may approach the podium.

783
00:51:21,309 --> 00:51:21,976
>> Good morning.

784
00:51:21,976 --> 00:51:21,979
I'm Janet Osborne.

785
00:51:21,979 --> 00:51:23,937
First I would like to thank Commissioner Nicole

786
00:51:23,937 --> 00:51:28,526
Wilson for bringing to light and imposing a ban on importation

787
00:51:28,526 --> 00:51:31,646
of exotic wildlife for entertainment purposes.

788
00:51:31,646 --> 00:51:37,191
I would also like to thank the hardworking and very skilled

789
00:51:37,191 --> 00:51:39,191
people at the Central Florida Zoo

790
00:51:39,191 --> 00:51:45,191
for saving eight of the tragically injured and very sick

791
00:51:47,919 --> 00:51:49,831
sloths.

792
00:51:49,831 --> 00:51:53,951
We are living through a defining moment for wildlife.

793
00:51:53,951 --> 00:51:57,316
Future generations we'll ask who spoke up.

794
00:51:57,316 --> 00:52:01,533
I would like to add my name to that list.

795
00:52:01,533 --> 00:52:04,510
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission

796
00:52:04,510 --> 00:52:07,423
is responsible for the humane treatment

797
00:52:07,423 --> 00:52:11,331
of wild and captive wildlife in this state.

798
00:52:11,331 --> 00:52:15,451
But did you know that the agency is

799
00:52:15,451 --> 00:52:20,531
run by seven commissioners who are developers and trophy

800
00:52:20,531 --> 00:52:24,121
hunters and who are appointed and have been

801
00:52:24,121 --> 00:52:26,521
installed by governor Desantis.

802
00:52:26,591 --> 00:52:30,551
Unfortunately, the FWC has a disturbing history

803
00:52:30,551 --> 00:52:35,351
of failing wildlife and habitats they depend on.

804
00:52:35,351 --> 00:52:40,751
They failed the gopher tortoise by allowing entombment policies.

805
00:52:40,911 --> 00:52:44,479
That simply means being buried alive and bulldozed over.

806
00:52:44,479 --> 00:52:49,571
Or at best by moving them to inadequate small parcels.

807
00:52:49,571 --> 00:52:51,655
Their numbers have declined by 80%.

808
00:52:51,655 --> 00:52:56,644
They failed the Florida Panther by allowing real estate

809
00:52:56,644 --> 00:53:00,691
and infrastructure developments and cutting off corridors

810
00:53:00,691 --> 00:53:03,691
in the Panther breeding territories.

811
00:53:04,324 --> 00:53:08,151
Also failed the manatees by ignoring toxic water

812
00:53:08,151 --> 00:53:10,911
pollution in the Indian River lagoon.

813
00:53:10,911 --> 00:53:14,895
Resulting in the die off of seagrass and record deaths

814
00:53:14,895 --> 00:53:17,895
of manatees due to starvation.

815
00:53:17,991 --> 00:53:23,871
And of course, they failed the iconic Florida black bear

816
00:53:23,871 --> 00:53:29,271
by using outdated population data and sponsoring a hunt .

817
00:53:39,728 --> 00:53:41,610
I'm running rapidly out of time.

818
00:53:41,610 --> 00:53:41,690
But if I can just get this across.

819
00:53:41,690 --> 00:53:41,515
>> I'm sorry.

820
00:53:41,515 --> 00:53:42,348
You are out of time.

821
00:53:42,348 --> 00:53:44,831
But I do think we understand your sentiments.

822
00:53:44,831 --> 00:53:46,964
The terms of what you're expressing.

823
00:53:46,964 --> 00:53:48,951
Thank you.

824
00:53:48,951 --> 00:53:50,951
>> Thank you.

825
00:53:59,168 --> 00:53:59,835
>> Next speaker.

826
00:53:59,835 --> 00:53:59,844
And again if you can begin with your name

827
00:53:59,844 --> 00:54:01,431
and address for the record.

828
00:54:01,431 --> 00:54:03,431
>> It's Elizabeth Osborne.

829
00:54:03,471 --> 00:54:05,257
Windermere Florida.

830
00:54:05,257 --> 00:54:09,943
Again I would like to thank Commissioner Wilson and Central

831
00:54:09,943 --> 00:54:14,743
Florida Zoo for making this matter as public.

832
00:54:15,767 --> 00:54:18,591
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission mission

833
00:54:18,591 --> 00:54:21,431
is to manage fish and wildlife resources for their long term

834
00:54:21,431 --> 00:54:23,977
well-being and the benefit of the people.

835
00:54:23,977 --> 00:54:26,677
Did you know that sloths can starve

836
00:54:26,677 --> 00:54:29,220
to death on a full stomach?

837
00:54:29,220 --> 00:54:33,420
They are completely reliant on environmental conditions.

838
00:54:33,751 --> 00:54:38,950
If they get too cold, the special microbes

839
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:40,710
they have in their digestive systems

840
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:44,357
die and therefore they can no longer digest the food they eat.

841
00:54:44,357 --> 00:54:48,901
Over 60 wild sloths died due to cold, exposure, disease,

842
00:54:48,901 --> 00:54:53,169
and poor conditions, as they were housed in the vehicle

843
00:54:53,169 --> 00:54:53,919
storage warehouse.

844
00:54:53,919 --> 00:54:58,451
The FWC was made aware of sloth world in December of 2024.

845
00:54:58,451 --> 00:55:05,310
By the time of the FWC s first inspection in August, 2025, 21

846
00:55:05,310 --> 00:55:06,791
sloths had died.

847
00:55:06,791 --> 00:55:09,310
FWC issued a verbal Warning.

848
00:55:09,310 --> 00:55:14,217
This is clear and some would say a criminal failure of the FWC

849
00:55:14,217 --> 00:55:15,991
to follow its mission.

850
00:55:15,991 --> 00:55:17,999
Report these findings to Orange County.

851
00:55:17,999 --> 00:55:19,647
And take immediate action to protect

852
00:55:19,647 --> 00:55:21,871
the well-being of the remaining sloths

853
00:55:21,871 --> 00:55:25,555
appear clearly the FWC has neither the expertise

854
00:55:25,555 --> 00:55:30,591
nor the desire to manage exotic wildlife or prosecute

855
00:55:30,591 --> 00:55:33,810
businesses that neglect and cause harm to animals.

856
00:55:33,810 --> 00:55:36,531
Finally, until the FWC is reformed

857
00:55:36,531 --> 00:55:38,931
and biologists, zoologists, environmentalists,

858
00:55:39,571 --> 00:55:43,171
and veterinarians replace the businessmen, hunters,

859
00:55:44,671 --> 00:55:48,731
and developers that make up the current commission,

860
00:55:48,731 --> 00:55:51,511
we will continue to have a lack of humane oversight.

861
00:55:51,511 --> 00:55:53,924
The loopholes need to be closed.

862
00:55:53,924 --> 00:55:58,815
I am supporting the county wide ban on the importation

863
00:55:58,815 --> 00:55:59,943
of exotic wildlife.

864
00:55:59,943 --> 00:56:02,343
I would also indiscernible.

865
00:56:04,191 --> 00:56:08,277
And who knows, maybe the next deportation

866
00:56:08,277 --> 00:56:11,877
will be another COVID 192.0 to us.

867
00:56:20,824 --> 00:56:21,532
>> Alright folks.

868
00:56:21,532 --> 00:56:22,818
Next batch of speakers is going to start with Brad Papas.

869
00:56:22,818 --> 00:56:24,471
Followed by Peter Murray.

870
00:56:24,471 --> 00:56:25,911
Natalie Lopez.

871
00:56:25,911 --> 00:56:27,911
Nelson Betancourt.

872
00:56:29,511 --> 00:56:31,511
Hope Bellamy.

873
00:56:32,310 --> 00:56:34,310
Ryan Myers.

874
00:56:40,231 --> 00:56:43,231
Mr. Murray, your first up.

875
00:56:59,311 --> 00:57:02,843
I want to welcome my new commissioner.

876
00:57:02,843 --> 00:57:07,751
I want to extend my best wishes to Mayor Demings.

877
00:57:07,751 --> 00:57:10,311
I hope it gets better soon.

878
00:57:10,311 --> 00:57:15,591
That said, I'm here not to talk about pleasant awards.

879
00:57:15,591 --> 00:57:18,930
I want to talk and congratulate the award winners,

880
00:57:18,930 --> 00:57:19,875
but for the past two and a half years

881
00:57:19,875 --> 00:57:22,391
my family has gone through quite an ordeal and when

882
00:57:22,391 --> 00:57:26,211
I saw the Florida Doge come out and talk about

883
00:57:26,211 --> 00:57:28,237
the excessive spending here in Orange County,

884
00:57:28,237 --> 00:57:31,604
and congratulations to Mr. Williamson and his team.

885
00:57:31,604 --> 00:57:36,111
I was really upset because what he said about that,

886
00:57:36,111 --> 00:57:37,901
I had directly witnessed as a consultant

887
00:57:37,901 --> 00:57:39,511
to the mayor's office.

888
00:57:39,511 --> 00:57:43,711
Comptroller Diamond investigated one of my allegations

889
00:57:44,217 --> 00:57:46,981
and it was in the press.

890
00:57:46,981 --> 00:57:52,981
It was 101,000 overbilling on a project that was $1,900 an hour.

891
00:57:53,310 --> 00:57:56,310
Mr. Brooks issued a very detailed memo

892
00:57:56,310 --> 00:57:59,470
stating how thorough that investigation was

893
00:57:59,470 --> 00:58:02,767
and how he was going to sue to recover funds.

894
00:58:02,767 --> 00:58:06,415
Months later the county legal contradicted the findings

895
00:58:06,415 --> 00:58:09,535
of Mr. Diamond and said it wasn't in the county's best

896
00:58:09,535 --> 00:58:10,951
interest to recover the funds.

897
00:58:10,951 --> 00:58:14,821
Even though the contracts come with the, and the proposals

898
00:58:14,821 --> 00:58:18,421
all support control of Diamond's findings.

899
00:58:19,631 --> 00:58:22,935
Went to the wife of Democratic politician and sister

900
00:58:22,935 --> 00:58:25,591
in law of a current state Senator.

901
00:58:25,591 --> 00:58:27,571
Also provided evidence of two procurements

902
00:58:27,571 --> 00:58:29,239
that were also suspect.

903
00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:33,671
One member of the mayor's staff was found guilty of misconduct.

904
00:58:33,671 --> 00:58:38,571
And they said I was lobbying, which again, I'd

905
00:58:38,571 --> 00:58:41,291
love to address, but nobody will meet with me to discuss

906
00:58:41,291 --> 00:58:41,937
these issues.

907
00:58:41,937 --> 00:58:44,164
One of them they wouldn't investigate,

908
00:58:44,164 --> 00:58:46,351
but during the previous investigation,

909
00:58:46,351 --> 00:58:52,504
Milan told them they did not want Fpla to get an award.

910
00:58:52,504 --> 00:58:57,124
Two years later, two years later after this evidence,

911
00:58:57,124 --> 00:59:01,185
the comptroller investigated and he confirmed what I had alleged.

912
00:59:01,185 --> 00:59:04,423
This was a federally non-compliant transaction.

913
00:59:04,423 --> 00:59:08,623
A member of the mayor staff appeared

914
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:10,971
to be playing favorites again.

915
00:59:10,971 --> 00:59:13,878
Second was this gross negligence or a cover up?

916
00:59:13,878 --> 00:59:15,860
They refused to meet with me.

917
00:59:15,860 --> 00:59:17,486
I have more evidence.

918
00:59:17,591 --> 00:59:19,157
>> Thank you Mr. Murray.

919
00:59:19,157 --> 00:59:21,157
Thank you.

920
00:59:27,309 --> 00:59:27,851
>> Good luck.

921
00:59:27,851 --> 00:59:27,857
>> All right come on folks.

922
00:59:27,857 --> 00:59:28,214
Reminder of the names already called.

923
00:59:28,214 --> 00:59:28,918
Jim dewberry.

924
00:59:28,918 --> 00:59:29,941
Brad Papas.

925
00:59:29,941 --> 00:59:31,281
Natalie Lopez.

926
00:59:31,281 --> 00:59:32,781
Nelson Betancourt.

927
00:59:32,781 --> 00:59:34,441
Hope Bellamy.

928
00:59:34,441 --> 00:59:35,943
And Ryan Myers.

929
00:59:35,943 --> 00:59:38,455
Barring any of those, our next speaker

930
00:59:38,455 --> 00:59:43,255
will be Zach Moldoff, followed by Amara Smith.

931
00:59:44,211 --> 00:59:46,211
Sana Afeez.

932
00:59:47,551 --> 00:59:49,551
David Siegel.

933
00:59:52,151 --> 00:59:54,151
And Tim McKinney.

934
00:59:56,831 --> 01:00:01,631
Starting to worry I have the right list.

935
01:00:07,882 --> 01:00:08,924
>> Good morning everyone.

936
01:00:08,924 --> 01:00:09,642
My name is Amara.

937
01:00:09,642 --> 01:00:10,142
32801.

938
01:00:10,142 --> 01:00:12,285
As the mayoral election draws to a close

939
01:00:12,285 --> 01:00:14,327
and while we contemplate budget cuts and spending

940
01:00:14,327 --> 01:00:17,824
we must focus on who matters most, our residents.

941
01:00:17,824 --> 01:00:20,491
Many community members cannot be in this room today because they

942
01:00:20,491 --> 01:00:23,711
lack the time and resources to navigate the civic process.

943
01:00:23,711 --> 01:00:25,351
Yet they are deeply worried.

944
01:00:25,351 --> 01:00:27,910
Every vulnerable community in Orlando

945
01:00:27,910 --> 01:00:28,831
faces a compounding crisis.

946
01:00:28,831 --> 01:00:30,697
Skyrocketing property taxes.

947
01:00:30,697 --> 01:00:32,697
State approved gentrification.

948
01:00:33,331 --> 01:00:35,131
Environmental degradation.

949
01:00:35,131 --> 01:00:37,911
And a looming affordability breaking point.

950
01:00:37,911 --> 01:00:41,811
As we look to the future, I urge every resident to rigorously vet

951
01:00:41,811 --> 01:00:42,811
the candidates.

952
01:00:42,811 --> 01:00:46,471
If you find as many voters had a pattern of empty promises paired

953
01:00:46,471 --> 01:00:50,423
with heavy corporate funding, do not let that breed apathy.

954
01:00:50,423 --> 01:00:53,311
Stay engaged and keep speaking up.

955
01:00:53,311 --> 01:00:56,413
Government does not start or end with who

956
01:00:56,413 --> 01:00:59,831
sits in the mayoral seat period government starts and stops

957
01:00:59,831 --> 01:01:00,599
with the people.

958
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:02,599
Thank you.

959
01:01:11,616 --> 01:01:15,231
>> Good morning my name is David Siegel.

960
01:01:15,231 --> 01:01:17,231
1866 Corner View Lane.

961
01:01:18,284 --> 01:01:21,743
I'm a little confused because there were so many names

962
01:01:21,743 --> 01:01:22,597
read before.

963
01:01:22,597 --> 01:01:24,537
At any rate.

964
01:01:24,537 --> 01:01:27,799
I wanted to come and just quickly address two issues.

965
01:01:27,799 --> 01:01:30,861
The first one, I talked to you all about the pet poisoning

966
01:01:30,861 --> 01:01:32,231
person we have.

967
01:01:32,231 --> 01:01:36,150
He started engaging in harassing other people in the neighborhood

968
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:38,631
and the state of Florida told me that they

969
01:01:38,631 --> 01:01:42,231
double dashed through legislation, people that

970
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:45,951
engage in this type of stuff, if they try to retaliate,

971
01:01:45,951 --> 01:01:49,270
those reporting them, it's actually considered stalking.

972
01:01:49,270 --> 01:01:52,857
At any rate, our pet poisoner, we've

973
01:01:52,857 --> 01:01:55,111
been finding a lot of the wildlife poisoned.

974
01:01:55,111 --> 01:01:58,411
I've called the county to come and collect the bodies and they

975
01:01:58,411 --> 01:01:58,911
didn't.

976
01:01:58,911 --> 01:02:02,207
I had to get up early one morning,

977
01:02:02,207 --> 01:02:05,807
it's 530, and raccoons on my sidewalk.

978
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:07,657
Whatever.

979
01:02:07,657 --> 01:02:08,844
Convulsing.

980
01:02:08,844 --> 01:02:13,897
The perpetrator zoomed by me about 80 miles an hour

981
01:02:13,897 --> 01:02:15,654
getting his message to me.

982
01:02:15,654 --> 01:02:20,579
The second thing, I'm not going to go into a lot of details.

983
01:02:20,579 --> 01:02:22,930
I'll be seeking meetings with some of you commissioners

984
01:02:22,930 --> 01:02:24,208
or probably all of you.

985
01:02:24,208 --> 01:02:26,173
And what I'm about to say has nothing

986
01:02:26,173 --> 01:02:30,650
to do with anybody who is sitting at the dais.

987
01:02:30,650 --> 01:02:34,265
But, a few years ago I chaired.

988
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:38,171
I was president of a not for profit.

989
01:02:38,171 --> 01:02:41,481
And I was drawn into an elections tampering mechanism.

990
01:02:41,481 --> 01:02:45,681
I would have completely forgotten about it,

991
01:02:45,807 --> 01:02:50,110
but somehow it's raised its ugly head again.

992
01:02:50,110 --> 01:02:53,287
At any rate, I know Commissioner Wilson,

993
01:02:53,287 --> 01:02:57,379
you're an expert in not for profit law and proper business

994
01:02:57,379 --> 01:02:57,879
conduct.

995
01:02:57,879 --> 01:02:59,223
This is a doozy.

996
01:02:59,223 --> 01:03:03,617
I have all the information here but I don't have enough time

997
01:03:03,617 --> 01:03:07,411
to present it and it's probably better dealing with you

998
01:03:07,411 --> 01:03:09,191
all individually on it.

999
01:03:09,191 --> 01:03:11,991
At any rate, thank you for your time.

1000
01:03:11,991 --> 01:03:14,367
Best wishes to the mayor's recovery.

1001
01:03:14,367 --> 01:03:19,170
I noticed there was an absent space there.

1002
01:03:19,170 --> 01:03:21,406
I must have been out of the loop for a while.

1003
01:03:21,406 --> 01:03:24,404
Thank you for considering my points.

1004
01:03:24,404 --> 01:03:26,370
>> Thank you.

1005
01:03:26,370 --> 01:03:28,247
Byron, this is the second time we've

1006
01:03:28,247 --> 01:03:31,911
heard from Mr. Siegel regarding pet poisoning and our animal

1007
01:03:31,911 --> 01:03:32,617
poisoning.

1008
01:03:32,617 --> 01:03:36,817
What do we do in these instances?

1009
01:03:39,391 --> 01:03:43,150
>> Last time it was the Sheriff's office.

1010
01:03:43,150 --> 01:03:47,815
Some of the items that's not our area.

1011
01:03:48,151 --> 01:03:52,311
Again, if I'm correct, I believe there was a referral

1012
01:03:52,311 --> 01:03:54,711
to the Sheriff's office.

1013
01:03:54,791 --> 01:03:55,831
>> Okay.

1014
01:03:55,831 --> 01:03:58,991
Mr. Siegel, because you live right down --

1015
01:03:58,991 --> 01:04:00,120
you live in district five.

1016
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,537
Ethan is right there and we'll try

1017
01:04:01,537 --> 01:04:04,130
to help you connect to who you need to speak with.

1018
01:04:04,130 --> 01:04:06,130
Thank you.

1019
01:04:10,231 --> 01:04:12,439
Ethan is right there.

1020
01:04:12,439 --> 01:04:14,884
He'll help connect and Victoria.

1021
01:04:14,884 --> 01:04:16,884
Thank you.

1022
01:04:24,886 --> 01:04:25,469
>> Sana Hafiz.

1023
01:04:25,469 --> 01:04:25,470
32801.

1024
01:04:25,470 --> 01:04:25,471
Hello.

1025
01:04:25,471 --> 01:04:27,261
Recently we saw the Orange County Fire Rescue chief Anthony

1026
01:04:27,261 --> 01:04:29,541
Resigned from his position after questions

1027
01:04:29,541 --> 01:04:31,741
from Representative Uribe about where

1028
01:04:31,741 --> 01:04:34,231
fleet purchases were accounted for within the department's

1029
01:04:34,231 --> 01:04:34,751
budget.

1030
01:04:34,751 --> 01:04:39,263
We also saw that Orlando approved -- or I'm sorry,

1031
01:04:39,263 --> 01:04:43,391
the county approved a contract with Kratos, a defense company,

1032
01:04:43,391 --> 01:04:49,391
with a base on allocates or Jerusalem with a base

1033
01:04:53,231 --> 01:04:55,231
[indiscernible]

1034
01:04:56,445 --> 01:04:59,112
What assurances do we have that these audits will be carried out

1035
01:04:59,112 --> 01:05:00,255
and what assurances do we have that those responsible for money

1036
01:05:00,255 --> 01:05:01,755
laundering will be held accountable.

1037
01:05:01,755 --> 01:05:04,351
I couldn't help but notice that the responses to the gentleman

1038
01:05:04,351 --> 01:05:08,551
that spoke a few speakers ago weren't as warm or receptive

1039
01:05:08,551 --> 01:05:12,751
as those that were when people talk

1040
01:05:12,847 --> 01:05:15,451
about sloths or other things that seem to be more unifying.

1041
01:05:15,451 --> 01:05:17,677
I think that making sure our funds that

1042
01:05:17,677 --> 01:05:21,337
come from our taxpayer dollars are being appropriately spent,

1043
01:05:21,337 --> 01:05:24,495
knowing the economic situation our residents are in,

1044
01:05:24,495 --> 01:05:26,975
is a nonpartisan issue as well.

1045
01:05:26,975 --> 01:05:29,400
I'm quite concerned, honestly.

1046
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,381
This is a pattern I've seen across several meetings.

1047
01:05:31,381 --> 01:05:33,948
I'm not sure if you guys recognize me or not.

1048
01:05:33,948 --> 01:05:35,103
But I recognize you all.

1049
01:05:35,103 --> 01:05:37,360
I've been coming around and I haven't

1050
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,391
seen aides go to the other individuals that

1051
01:05:39,391 --> 01:05:40,351
talk about corruption.

1052
01:05:40,351 --> 01:05:42,242
I haven't seen even responses to individuals

1053
01:05:42,242 --> 01:05:43,367
that talk about corruption.

1054
01:05:43,367 --> 01:05:45,751
I haven't seen any interest in the resources

1055
01:05:45,751 --> 01:05:48,851
that they present about that proof and not just the gentleman

1056
01:05:48,851 --> 01:05:50,567
that I spoke of before.

1057
01:05:50,567 --> 01:05:53,731
But several people from several years.

1058
01:05:53,731 --> 01:05:57,910
I would really appreciate if you all in your current positions

1059
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:59,459
and those that you aspire to be in

1060
01:05:59,459 --> 01:06:01,591
could clarify what you'll do to make those changes

1061
01:06:01,591 --> 01:06:05,126
and what ramifications that would have for our constituents.

1062
01:06:05,126 --> 01:06:07,526
Thank you very much.

1063
01:06:31,319 --> 01:06:32,444
>> My name is Tim McKinney.

1064
01:06:32,444 --> 01:06:34,911
I live at 415 East Pine Street.

1065
01:06:34,911 --> 01:06:36,331
Orlando Florida.

1066
01:06:36,331 --> 01:06:37,410
32801.

1067
01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:38,759
This is Haley Dubois.

1068
01:06:38,759 --> 01:06:39,611
She's dead.

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01:06:39,611 --> 01:06:41,535
She was homeless in East Orange County.

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01:06:41,535 --> 01:06:43,299
She was an identical twin.

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01:06:43,299 --> 01:06:44,375
She was 23.

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01:06:44,375 --> 01:06:45,951
She had a baby girl named Harley.

1073
01:06:45,951 --> 01:06:48,217
She was found on Saturday in the woods

1074
01:06:48,217 --> 01:06:50,901
by our outreach team, which is right here in the front row.

1075
01:06:50,901 --> 01:06:52,599
One of them is here with us.

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01:06:52,599 --> 01:06:54,703
Christa, who actually found her.

1077
01:06:54,703 --> 01:06:56,177
The other one is Crystal.

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01:06:56,177 --> 01:06:58,961
Both of them were on the first day of work.

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01:06:58,961 --> 01:07:02,213
Crystal was already fostering Hailey's baby for the past year.

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01:07:02,213 --> 01:07:04,337
She was in a DCF case.

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01:07:04,337 --> 01:07:07,111
No doubt directed by God and where to go

1082
01:07:07,111 --> 01:07:10,550
and then spilling the stench and the smell of death

1083
01:07:10,550 --> 01:07:12,359
they discovered her body.

1084
01:07:12,359 --> 01:07:17,759
Too badly decomposed by -- and damaged and unrecognizable

1085
01:07:18,357 --> 01:07:21,231
to even know the cause of death at site.

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01:07:21,231 --> 01:07:25,991
Mayor, our new commissioner, soon to be sworn in, deputy,

1087
01:07:25,991 --> 01:07:28,399
you smelled that smell, and it's a smell

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01:07:28,399 --> 01:07:29,441
that you'll never forget.

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01:07:29,441 --> 01:07:30,341
It's horrifying.

1090
01:07:30,341 --> 01:07:31,287
It's horrific.

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01:07:31,287 --> 01:07:32,775
So many emotions.

1092
01:07:32,775 --> 01:07:35,775
I feel sadness, heartbroken, sorry.

1093
01:07:35,799 --> 01:07:38,199
But today, I'm pissed.

1094
01:07:38,231 --> 01:07:40,951
I knew Hailey and her identical twin sister Hannah.

1095
01:07:40,951 --> 01:07:42,611
Her best friend since birth.

1096
01:07:42,611 --> 01:07:46,710
They were among some of the first students at my school,

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01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:47,910
Orange County Academy.

1098
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:50,558
She lived a life of trauma, abuse, and hardship.

1099
01:07:50,558 --> 01:07:52,516
I'm not sure what the medical examiner is going

1100
01:07:52,516 --> 01:07:53,641
to put as a cause of death.

1101
01:07:53,641 --> 01:07:55,711
I don't know what the Sheriff department's office

1102
01:07:55,711 --> 01:07:56,875
is going to determine.

1103
01:07:56,875 --> 01:07:59,951
If it's the Latin Kings, a drug dealer, a domestic relationship,

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01:07:59,951 --> 01:08:02,440
an overdose that killed her.

1105
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,444
If she had a safe place to stay overnight,

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01:08:04,444 --> 01:08:05,703
she wouldn't be dead today.

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01:08:05,703 --> 01:08:06,463
We have solutions.

1108
01:08:06,463 --> 01:08:07,924
For two years I've been in meetings

1109
01:08:07,924 --> 01:08:11,231
with the county trying to get $1 million match for $3 million

1110
01:08:11,231 --> 01:08:15,431
we have committed for 22 affordable housing units.

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01:08:17,310 --> 01:08:20,831
The county and the state have paid $250,000 for trailers

1112
01:08:20,831 --> 01:08:22,917
to sit in a parking lot for a year,

1113
01:08:22,917 --> 01:08:26,173
that I wish today you would let me pull my pickup truck there

1114
01:08:26,173 --> 01:08:29,311
and pull them out of there because the county owns property

1115
01:08:29,311 --> 01:08:32,341
adjacent to Transformation Village that we could sit them

1116
01:08:32,341 --> 01:08:34,981
on today, with all of the wraparound services.

1117
01:08:34,981 --> 01:08:39,781
For Hailey's sake, Mr. Brooks, you take action.

1118
01:08:40,591 --> 01:08:44,401
Mr. Brooks can't get it done, vice mayor, mayor,

1119
01:08:44,401 --> 01:08:47,207
County commission, I demand that you take action.

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01:08:47,207 --> 01:08:48,791
People are dying every day.

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01:08:48,791 --> 01:08:50,791
Thank you.

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01:08:59,198 --> 01:09:00,323
>> Thank you, Mr. McKinney.

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01:09:00,323 --> 01:09:00,333
>> Our next speaker is going to be Christopher Stalder.

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01:09:00,333 --> 01:09:02,733
Followed by Lee Padua.

1125
01:09:03,515 --> 01:09:05,515
Dana Hutchinson.

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01:09:07,710 --> 01:09:09,710
Alan Levi.

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01:09:11,391 --> 01:09:13,391
Tracy Jackson.

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01:09:14,710 --> 01:09:16,710
And Samia Pratt.

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01:09:27,754 --> 01:09:28,421
>> Good morning.

1130
01:09:28,421 --> 01:09:28,424
I'm Christopher Stelzer.

1131
01:09:28,424 --> 01:09:30,423
5102, Saint Germain Avenue, Florida 32812.

1132
01:09:30,423 --> 01:09:32,951
I'm here with support Orlando shelters

1133
01:09:32,951 --> 01:09:34,889
to help our most vulnerable in our community.

1134
01:09:34,889 --> 01:09:36,308
Every day there are more and more

1135
01:09:36,308 --> 01:09:40,508
people suffering from the devastations of poverty

1136
01:09:40,724 --> 01:09:45,700
and not being able to keep up with the expense of things that

1137
01:09:45,700 --> 01:09:46,567
keep getting more expensive.

1138
01:09:46,567 --> 01:09:49,857
I just saw again this morning a lady

1139
01:09:49,857 --> 01:09:52,351
near the intersection of Conway and Anderson

1140
01:09:52,351 --> 01:09:55,135
she was there yesterday and she's suffering alone.

1141
01:09:55,135 --> 01:09:58,897
There's so many people like her and so many families

1142
01:09:58,897 --> 01:10:01,170
on the street suffering as well.

1143
01:10:01,170 --> 01:10:03,248
At least they have each other.

1144
01:10:03,248 --> 01:10:08,631
But there are a lot of people that are alone, two.

1145
01:10:08,631 --> 01:10:13,110
I had the opportunity to go to the Central Florida Behavioral

1146
01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:15,397
Hospital near SeaWorld last week.

1147
01:10:15,397 --> 01:10:18,291
I met a young gentleman that is a licensed clinical social

1148
01:10:18,291 --> 01:10:20,911
worker, that is interested in doing a group

1149
01:10:20,911 --> 01:10:23,311
home for the homeless.

1150
01:10:23,551 --> 01:10:27,591
I will forward an email that I received from him to you

1151
01:10:27,591 --> 01:10:30,451
and maybe you can help him.

1152
01:10:30,451 --> 01:10:35,710
With people having to make the hard choices of whether to make

1153
01:10:35,710 --> 01:10:37,711
their mortgage payment or to feed themselves

1154
01:10:37,711 --> 01:10:41,710
or their families and they get foreclosed on,

1155
01:10:41,710 --> 01:10:44,951
maybe something can be done to help these people in group

1156
01:10:44,951 --> 01:10:47,503
homes, in the communities where they

1157
01:10:47,503 --> 01:10:51,751
are, to be able to resuscitate them and rehabilitate them

1158
01:10:51,751 --> 01:10:54,151
back to being self-sustaining.

1159
01:10:55,570 --> 01:10:58,657
I appreciate all everyone is doing.

1160
01:10:59,311 --> 01:11:03,550
It's a huge problem and it's only getting worse.

1161
01:11:03,550 --> 01:11:06,864
Whatever we can do to help our neighbors

1162
01:11:06,864 --> 01:11:10,460
helps our whole community and will help us have a brighter

1163
01:11:10,460 --> 01:11:11,127
future together.

1164
01:11:11,127 --> 01:11:13,527
Thank you very much.

1165
01:11:39,625 --> 01:11:41,917
>> Hi, I'm Lee Padua and I'm here to talk about sloths.

1166
01:11:41,917 --> 01:11:44,292
Thank you Commissioner Wilson for bringing this situation

1167
01:11:44,292 --> 01:11:46,124
to light and also thank you representative

1168
01:11:46,124 --> 01:11:50,177
doctor Eskamani for informing of the presentation

1169
01:11:50,177 --> 01:11:51,695
by Commissioner Wilson.

1170
01:11:51,695 --> 01:11:53,391
I will respect your time.

1171
01:11:53,391 --> 01:11:55,384
I'm sure hers is more elegant.

1172
01:11:55,384 --> 01:11:58,161
All of the facts I had written down.

1173
01:11:58,161 --> 01:11:59,525
I won't yap on that.

1174
01:11:59,525 --> 01:12:02,341
I'll just say if we treat this as an isolated incident

1175
01:12:02,341 --> 01:12:04,453
then history will probably repeat itself.

1176
01:12:04,453 --> 01:12:05,911
Leadership is tested after tragedy.

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01:12:05,911 --> 01:12:08,349
I really think all of you --

1178
01:12:08,349 --> 01:12:11,447
I really thank all of you for serving Orange County

1179
01:12:11,447 --> 01:12:12,447
and the way that you do.

1180
01:12:12,447 --> 01:12:14,415
And I look forward to Orange County setting a higher

1181
01:12:14,415 --> 01:12:15,582
standard for animal welfare.

1182
01:12:15,582 --> 01:12:17,982
Thank you so much.

1183
01:12:30,143 --> 01:12:31,476
>> Good morning data Hutchinson.

1184
01:12:31,476 --> 01:12:33,476
19246 Lansdowne Orlando, 32833.

1185
01:12:34,481 --> 01:12:37,396
Sloth world Orlando tragedy is not just

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01:12:37,396 --> 01:12:38,767
a case of animal deaths.

1187
01:12:38,767 --> 01:12:41,191
It's a stark example of systemic neglect

1188
01:12:41,191 --> 01:12:44,310
from a regulatory failure, and the exploitation

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01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:45,991
of our vulnerable wildlife.

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01:12:45,991 --> 01:12:48,951
Florida state officials had knowledge come authority,

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01:12:48,951 --> 01:12:51,495
and opportunity to take action to protect the sloths

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01:12:51,495 --> 01:12:53,583
and yet they did nothing.

1193
01:12:53,583 --> 01:12:57,610
I was surprised at how inexpensive the sloths were.

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01:12:57,610 --> 01:12:58,915
Only 3 to $400 each.

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01:12:58,915 --> 01:13:01,291
And people were excited enough to see them

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01:13:01,291 --> 01:13:04,111
that they prepared for tickets to a venue that hadn't even

1197
01:13:04,111 --> 01:13:04,631
opened.

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01:13:04,631 --> 01:13:07,651
The incentive was there for someone to do this again.

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01:13:07,651 --> 01:13:11,100
The state's priority is making sure businesses in Florida

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01:13:11,100 --> 01:13:13,260
maximize their profits above all else.

1201
01:13:13,260 --> 01:13:15,927
I did a lot of research, I saw pictures

1202
01:13:15,927 --> 01:13:19,510
and read everything I could find regarding sloth world.

1203
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:22,911
The fact that FWC refused to charge the owner with anything

1204
01:13:22,911 --> 01:13:25,550
is an absolute disgrace.

1205
01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:28,551
I think it is up to the county to prevent something like this

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01:13:28,551 --> 01:13:30,600
from happening again.

1207
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,348
I want to be clear, this is not a knee jerk reaction

1208
01:13:33,348 --> 01:13:34,111
to an incident.

1209
01:13:34,111 --> 01:13:36,711
Even if this business had done everything

1210
01:13:36,711 --> 01:13:38,239
to properly care for those animals,

1211
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:41,653
taking an animal from the wild to put

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01:13:41,653 --> 01:13:44,811
into an indoor fake rainforest is cruel.

1213
01:13:44,811 --> 01:13:47,783
Orange County does not need this kind of attraction.

1214
01:13:47,783 --> 01:13:50,771
Show that we believe in protecting the defenseless,

1215
01:13:50,771 --> 01:13:55,311
support a county prohibition on importing exotic animals

1216
01:13:55,311 --> 01:13:56,524
for entertainment.

1217
01:13:56,524 --> 01:14:02,399
Lastly, this afternoon, please do not approve of item C,

1218
01:14:02,399 --> 01:14:05,399
minimizing wetland impacts should always

1219
01:14:05,431 --> 01:14:08,505
be a priority and this does not do that.

1220
01:14:08,505 --> 01:14:10,759
It can and should be done better.

1221
01:14:10,759 --> 01:14:12,759
Thank you.

1222
01:14:22,743 --> 01:14:23,410
>> Good morning.

1223
01:14:23,410 --> 01:14:23,415
My name is Alan Levi.

1224
01:14:23,415 --> 01:14:23,757
535 East Harding Street, Orlando.

1225
01:14:23,757 --> 01:14:24,434
District three.

1226
01:14:24,434 --> 01:14:28,340
I am with support Orlando shelters.

1227
01:14:28,151 --> 01:14:31,483
People got to go to the bathroom.

1228
01:14:31,483 --> 01:14:35,683
Orange County has 20 public restrooms for 100 000 people.

1229
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:42,895
But it's sundown, that number drops to zero.

1230
01:14:43,727 --> 01:14:47,927
300 people were arrested for public urination in 2024.

1231
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,839
276 of those were unhoused.

1232
01:14:53,300 --> 01:14:55,300
274 were arrested again.

1233
01:14:56,351 --> 01:14:58,751
It costs $300 per rest.

1234
01:15:00,410 --> 01:15:03,410
It's not just the unhoused.

1235
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:05,579
Everyone at some time in their life

1236
01:15:05,579 --> 01:15:09,511
has been in a public space and just absolutely needed to go

1237
01:15:09,511 --> 01:15:12,351
and maybe did not make the best decision.

1238
01:15:12,351 --> 01:15:15,710
And maybe they got arrested.

1239
01:15:15,710 --> 01:15:17,663
That's damage to your dignity and that's

1240
01:15:17,663 --> 01:15:23,559
damage that makes it harder to sign a lease or get a job.

1241
01:15:23,559 --> 01:15:27,337
This is what we're asking, for a shared partnership

1242
01:15:27,337 --> 01:15:30,937
to distribute 15 public restrooms in strategically

1243
01:15:31,964 --> 01:15:35,310
placed locations along the tourist corridor.

1244
01:15:35,310 --> 01:15:38,951
That are accessible to the unhoused community.

1245
01:15:38,951 --> 01:15:42,551
Also, let's just limit arrests when

1246
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:44,811
there are no bathrooms nearby.

1247
01:15:44,811 --> 01:15:49,244
Lets it stop criminalizing a basic public need.

1248
01:15:49,244 --> 01:15:51,244
Thank you.

1249
01:16:03,754 --> 01:16:04,254
>> Hello.

1250
01:16:04,254 --> 01:16:04,261
Good morning my name is Samia Prat.

1251
01:16:04,261 --> 01:16:04,573
I'm a mom of four with children spread across three

1252
01:16:04,573 --> 01:16:06,390
of your Orange County schools.

1253
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:10,871
Last year we were successful in moving the bus stop.

1254
01:16:10,871 --> 01:16:15,644
After I posted a picture on social media of a car hopping

1255
01:16:15,644 --> 01:16:18,607
the corner of our intersection and the children standing

1256
01:16:18,607 --> 01:16:19,927
there waiting for the bus.

1257
01:16:19,927 --> 01:16:22,310
We are still fighting.

1258
01:16:22,310 --> 01:16:24,131
It's been two years and we are still

1259
01:16:24,131 --> 01:16:28,591
fighting to try to get some sort of safety measures,

1260
01:16:28,591 --> 01:16:30,541
turn lane lighting on our streets.

1261
01:16:30,541 --> 01:16:33,791
I attended your transportation planning session

1262
01:16:33,791 --> 01:16:35,844
earlier this year and they identified that area

1263
01:16:35,844 --> 01:16:36,631
as a hotspot.

1264
01:16:36,631 --> 01:16:38,503
They talked about arts funding.

1265
01:16:38,503 --> 01:16:41,448
Then when I tried to follow up and I

1266
01:16:41,448 --> 01:16:43,191
have been, for the last two years

1267
01:16:43,191 --> 01:16:46,148
working to try to get someone to pay attention to this,

1268
01:16:46,148 --> 01:16:48,156
and I've had no success at all.

1269
01:16:48,156 --> 01:16:50,375
I know you have your Vision Zero initiative.

1270
01:16:50,375 --> 01:16:53,639
I just shook the hand of the gentleman who received the award

1271
01:16:53,639 --> 01:16:56,339
and asked how he was shaking my hand I know he was like oh God,

1272
01:16:56,339 --> 01:16:57,417
not you again.

1273
01:16:57,417 --> 01:16:59,983
I just keep showing up until someone will

1274
01:16:59,983 --> 01:17:01,759
pay attention and do something.

1275
01:17:01,759 --> 01:17:06,910
I go out of my house, Bhargava states,

1276
01:17:06,910 --> 01:17:08,424
and I still see the memorial of a new death

1277
01:17:08,424 --> 01:17:10,143
that we've had in the last two months.

1278
01:17:10,143 --> 01:17:14,577
That is not accounted for now on your initiative.

1279
01:17:14,577 --> 01:17:16,303
If someone could please pay attention.

1280
01:17:16,303 --> 01:17:17,839
We need a turn lane.

1281
01:17:17,839 --> 01:17:19,511
We need some lighting.

1282
01:17:19,511 --> 01:17:24,311
My address is 4818 gilded Jewel drive, Mount Dora.

1283
01:17:25,447 --> 01:17:27,464
I'm in unincorporated Orange County.

1284
01:17:27,464 --> 01:17:30,927
It's at the corner of Sadler Road in Orange Blossom Trail.

1285
01:17:30,927 --> 01:17:32,528
You're getting ready to build a brand

1286
01:17:32,528 --> 01:17:34,510
new park at that intersection.

1287
01:17:34,510 --> 01:17:36,497
However, I will not allow my children

1288
01:17:36,497 --> 01:17:38,851
to even cross the street to go get a piece of candy

1289
01:17:38,851 --> 01:17:39,771
from the store.

1290
01:17:39,771 --> 01:17:42,415
We don't have any pedestrian sidewalks in that area

1291
01:17:42,415 --> 01:17:44,591
where the children can safely cross.

1292
01:17:44,591 --> 01:17:48,151
We don't even have a turn lane to pull into our community.

1293
01:17:48,151 --> 01:17:52,369
When we had Jerry Hume come out to do the story on it,

1294
01:17:52,369 --> 01:17:56,550
he was almost rear ended getting into our community.

1295
01:17:56,550 --> 01:18:00,650
If someone could please help us, I would appreciate,

1296
01:18:00,650 --> 01:18:04,865
and I thank you for your time today.

1297
01:18:05,631 --> 01:18:08,655
>> Miss Pratt, if you could see Brett black door.

1298
01:18:08,655 --> 01:18:10,655
Thank you.

1299
01:18:22,829 --> 01:18:28,829
>> And thank you for showing up keep on keep on.

1300
01:18:34,499 --> 01:18:35,166
>> Good morning.

1301
01:18:35,166 --> 01:18:35,175
Elected officials and all of the citizens of Orlando.

1302
01:18:35,175 --> 01:18:36,217
My name is Tracy Jackson.

1303
01:18:36,217 --> 01:18:40,784
I come before you a citizen of Orlando.

1304
01:18:40,784 --> 01:18:44,384
I live at 2436 East Illiana Street.

1305
01:18:45,324 --> 01:18:49,544
I came here two years ago facing the same issue.

1306
01:18:49,544 --> 01:18:54,463
Eight years ago I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress

1307
01:18:54,463 --> 01:18:57,371
disorder after a life interrupting

1308
01:18:57,371 --> 01:19:01,543
event happened to me and I was given a section eight voucher.

1309
01:19:01,543 --> 01:19:05,431
I've been here about five years now.

1310
01:19:05,431 --> 01:19:08,527
I've moved from Miami, thinking there

1311
01:19:08,527 --> 01:19:12,727
was more safer or habitable housing here.

1312
01:19:12,735 --> 01:19:16,187
I have moved four times in five years.

1313
01:19:16,187 --> 01:19:18,687
Since I've been here in Orlando.

1314
01:19:18,687 --> 01:19:23,151
A lot of the properties that are on the section eight list,

1315
01:19:23,151 --> 01:19:26,904
I've been told by my worker to try to pick

1316
01:19:26,904 --> 01:19:28,831
a good unit from that pool.

1317
01:19:28,831 --> 01:19:32,757
But how can you pick a good unit from the pool

1318
01:19:32,757 --> 01:19:35,951
when the pool is full of doodoo.

1319
01:19:35,951 --> 01:19:37,551
This is my toilet.

1320
01:19:37,551 --> 01:19:41,891
Two years ago I moved into this property, after I came here.

1321
01:19:41,891 --> 01:19:44,855
And I had the same complaint about the slumlords

1322
01:19:44,855 --> 01:19:47,231
that are on the program.

1323
01:19:47,231 --> 01:19:51,511
It's a very difficult to get yourself back on pace

1324
01:19:51,511 --> 01:19:54,164
when you're moving from place to place.

1325
01:19:54,164 --> 01:19:56,407
It is very difficult for your children

1326
01:19:56,407 --> 01:19:59,431
to get a proper education when they're being

1327
01:19:59,431 --> 01:20:01,134
snatched from school to school.

1328
01:20:01,134 --> 01:20:05,611
I was sent upstairs to the housing agency there.

1329
01:20:05,611 --> 01:20:08,764
I have not heard anything back from them.

1330
01:20:08,764 --> 01:20:14,161
My question is, how can the tenant, the participant

1331
01:20:14,161 --> 01:20:17,397
of section eight, continue to have a platform

1332
01:20:17,397 --> 01:20:20,817
to make a complaint to the community section

1333
01:20:20,817 --> 01:20:23,817
eight department or any supervisor,

1334
01:20:24,771 --> 01:20:27,791
when they become a villain, because I'm

1335
01:20:27,791 --> 01:20:29,183
complaining about roaches.

1336
01:20:29,183 --> 01:20:31,311
This is my kitchen.

1337
01:20:31,311 --> 01:20:34,364
There are so many roaches in my kitchen,

1338
01:20:34,364 --> 01:20:38,240
I would have to charge them rent to evict them.

1339
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,327
I have sewage coming up through my tubs.

1340
01:20:41,327 --> 01:20:42,311
My toilets.

1341
01:20:42,311 --> 01:20:44,111
And even my kitchen sink.

1342
01:20:44,111 --> 01:20:47,263
Three months after I moved into this new property.

1343
01:20:47,263 --> 01:20:51,324
My question is, I just need one person on this,

1344
01:20:51,324 --> 01:20:53,853
I just need one person to care.

1345
01:20:53,853 --> 01:20:55,310
Just one.

1346
01:20:55,310 --> 01:20:57,927
I'm just looking for a place to call home.

1347
01:20:57,927 --> 01:20:59,351
That's all.

1348
01:20:59,351 --> 01:21:01,351
That's it.

1349
01:21:01,631 --> 01:21:02,551
>> Miss Jackson.

1350
01:21:02,551 --> 01:21:05,111
See the young lady standing in the back?

1351
01:21:05,111 --> 01:21:06,521
That's Tanya Wilson.

1352
01:21:06,521 --> 01:21:10,444
She's director of the department that has housing.

1353
01:21:10,444 --> 01:21:14,631
So if you would please see her.

1354
01:21:14,631 --> 01:21:16,631
>> Thank you.

1355
01:21:26,372 --> 01:21:28,497
>> Vice mayor, I believe that was our last speaker.

1356
01:21:28,497 --> 01:21:29,556
>> Thank you, Nick.

1357
01:21:29,556 --> 01:21:33,111
Do we have anyone else who would like to make public comments?

1358
01:21:33,111 --> 01:21:35,919
No, okay, we will close the public comment

1359
01:21:35,919 --> 01:21:40,351
at this time period I'll call on county administrator, Byron,

1360
01:21:40,351 --> 01:21:43,351
to present the consent agenda.

1361
01:21:43,644 --> 01:21:46,990
>> Thank you, madam vice mayor.

1362
01:21:46,990 --> 01:21:50,710
I have just one item to pull off the consent agenda.

1363
01:21:50,710 --> 01:21:51,591
And that's item G five.

1364
01:21:51,591 --> 01:21:55,451
Regarding a standard permit for environmental protection.

1365
01:21:55,451 --> 01:21:57,391
That item will be considered concurrently

1366
01:21:57,391 --> 01:22:02,570
this afternoon along with public hearing eight one.

1367
01:22:02,570 --> 01:22:07,251
So item G five being pulled to be heard this afternoon.

1368
01:22:07,251 --> 01:22:10,710
Staff presents the remainder of the consent agenda for the board

1369
01:22:10,710 --> 01:22:12,710
consideration.

1370
01:22:12,271 --> 01:22:13,351
>> Thank you.

1371
01:22:13,351 --> 01:22:15,351
>> Motion for approval?

1372
01:22:15,924 --> 01:22:17,591
>> Second.

1373
01:22:17,591 --> 01:22:21,657
>> Commissioner Uribe, you agree with the motion?

1374
01:22:21,657 --> 01:22:24,657
All in favor, say aye.

1375
01:22:37,733 --> 01:22:38,858
Motion carries unanimously.

1376
01:22:38,858 --> 01:22:38,868
And we have Commissioner Mike Scott who's joining us now

1377
01:22:38,868 --> 01:22:40,504
but was absent on the vote.

1378
01:22:40,504 --> 01:22:42,519
I would like to highlight some items that

1379
01:22:42,519 --> 01:22:44,791
were approved in the consent agenda this morning.

1380
01:22:44,791 --> 01:22:48,991
That are exciting and worthwhile of celebrating.

1381
01:22:49,391 --> 01:22:51,651
Orange County is preparing for its fourth wave

1382
01:22:51,651 --> 01:22:55,881
of what has become the largest medical debt relief initiative

1383
01:22:55,881 --> 01:22:58,281
in Central Florida's history.

1384
01:22:58,341 --> 01:23:02,351
To date the county's debt relief efforts have eliminated over

1385
01:23:02,351 --> 01:23:06,551
$637 million from more than 427 000 Orange County residents.

1386
01:23:09,511 --> 01:23:13,711
Adding an additional $2 million for a revised

1387
01:23:14,543 --> 01:23:16,543
amount of 6.5 million.

1388
01:23:17,271 --> 01:23:19,671
The county anticipates alleviating

1389
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,391
the financial hardships of more than 100

1390
01:23:22,391 --> 01:23:24,391
thousand additional residents.

1391
01:23:24,471 --> 01:23:28,150
The Citizens Commission for Children Division has added

1392
01:23:28,150 --> 01:23:32,215
an additional $112,500 in funding for existing reading

1393
01:23:33,781 --> 01:23:37,351
and mathematics coaching program provided through its partnership

1394
01:23:37,351 --> 01:23:42,370
with the nonprofit Impact Outreach Ministries of Central

1395
01:23:42,370 --> 01:23:42,537
Florida.

1396
01:23:42,537 --> 01:23:44,790
The additional investment is expected

1397
01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:45,639
to help mitigate and prevent learning

1398
01:23:45,639 --> 01:23:48,207
loss for more than three dozen additional youth.

1399
01:23:48,207 --> 01:23:52,977
With this increase, the revised three year contract totals

1400
01:23:52,977 --> 01:23:54,444
$562,500.

1401
01:23:54,444 --> 01:23:58,644
The additional funding supported by rollover funds

1402
01:23:58,687 --> 01:24:00,911
from the Children's Services Fund.

1403
01:24:00,911 --> 01:24:06,311
Which would be contractually obligated by the end of 2026.

1404
01:24:11,351 --> 01:24:15,911
With that, I will call on Karrie Mathis

1405
01:24:15,911 --> 01:24:18,431
the procurement division manager to present

1406
01:24:18,431 --> 01:24:21,151
the procurement committee recommendation regarding

1407
01:24:21,151 --> 01:24:23,811
selection of one firm and two ranked alternatives

1408
01:24:23,811 --> 01:24:26,811
to provide professional solid waste

1409
01:24:26,871 --> 01:24:29,671
system financial consulting services for Orange County

1410
01:24:29,671 --> 01:24:32,710
utilities request for proposals.

1411
01:24:32,651 --> 01:24:35,510
Y 26-137- KC.

1412
01:24:37,789 --> 01:24:40,810
>> Thank you good morning Vice Mayor and Commissioners.

1413
01:24:40,810 --> 01:24:42,311
This procurement committee had evaluated proposals

1414
01:24:42,311 --> 01:24:45,471
for professional solid waste system financial consulting

1415
01:24:45,471 --> 01:24:47,271
services for Orange County Utilities.

1416
01:24:47,271 --> 01:24:50,911
I'm requesting board selection of one firm and two

1417
01:24:50,911 --> 01:24:55,221
ranked alternates as well as the request of action on the screen.

1418
01:24:55,221 --> 01:24:56,991
Commissioner Semerad was assigned

1419
01:24:56,991 --> 01:24:59,391
to the Procurement committee.

1420
01:24:59,777 --> 01:25:00,684
>> Thank you?.

1421
01:25:00,684 --> 01:25:05,297
I move for the selection of Taylor's Financial Consultants

1422
01:25:05,297 --> 01:25:06,111
Inc..

1423
01:25:06,111 --> 01:25:08,111
With 359.88 points.

1424
01:25:08,943 --> 01:25:14,343
With Geo Syntax Consultants Inc. With 345 points and Nugent

1425
01:25:14,911 --> 01:25:20,311
strategies and Solutions LLC with 307.54 points, as well as

1426
01:25:21,671 --> 01:25:23,671
the ranked alternatives.

1427
01:25:24,951 --> 01:25:26,491
>> Second.

1428
01:25:26,491 --> 01:25:27,223
>> Thank you.

1429
01:25:27,223 --> 01:25:32,230
I think Commissioner Wilson, ladies first, got it.

1430
01:25:33,111 --> 01:25:35,511
All those in favor?

1431
01:25:36,343 --> 01:25:38,151
Those opposed?

1432
01:25:38,151 --> 01:25:40,151
Motion carries unanimously.

1433
01:25:46,751 --> 01:25:50,631
With that again I call on Carrie Mathis.

1434
01:25:50,631 --> 01:25:52,655
The management of the procurement division

1435
01:25:52,655 --> 01:25:55,831
to present an update on the procurement ordinance.

1436
01:25:55,831 --> 01:25:58,871
We have no action requested on this item.

1437
01:25:58,871 --> 01:26:01,871
But we are all ready.

1438
01:26:02,591 --> 01:26:05,591
>> I would like to also invite Heather Wallace from the County

1439
01:26:05,591 --> 01:26:07,825
Attorney's office to join me at the podium.

1440
01:26:07,825 --> 01:26:09,603
We will be tag teaming this.

1441
01:26:09,603 --> 01:26:12,275
Taking you through this work session with

1442
01:26:12,275 --> 01:26:17,310
regards to the update to the Procurement ordinance.

1443
01:26:17,310 --> 01:26:18,902
As part of the work session today

1444
01:26:18,902 --> 01:26:20,444
we're going to be providing you a bit

1445
01:26:20,444 --> 01:26:23,270
of the background on the ordinance, and overview

1446
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:24,119
of the proposed changes.

1447
01:26:24,119 --> 01:26:26,771
We'll be digging into some of the specific subsections

1448
01:26:26,771 --> 01:26:31,751
of the ordinance that will be the focus of this update.

1449
01:26:31,751 --> 01:26:34,151
Prior to providing some detail on the accompanying

1450
01:26:34,151 --> 01:26:37,540
administrative regulation update and then discussing key policy

1451
01:26:37,540 --> 01:26:38,550
recommendations that we would like

1452
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:41,150
to get feedback from the board.

1453
01:26:41,150 --> 01:26:44,150
As background, the procurement ordinance,

1454
01:26:44,631 --> 01:26:48,637
which is chapter 17, article three, was adopted back in 1992.

1455
01:26:48,637 --> 01:26:51,305
So 34 years since its original adoption.

1456
01:26:51,305 --> 01:26:54,471
It has not had a comprehensive review and update

1457
01:26:54,471 --> 01:26:55,311
since that time.

1458
01:26:55,311 --> 01:26:57,167
It has largely remained unchanged.

1459
01:26:57,167 --> 01:26:59,417
There have been several updates to particular portions

1460
01:26:59,417 --> 01:27:00,664
of the ordinance.

1461
01:27:00,664 --> 01:27:03,664
Such as the nondiscrimination provisions.

1462
01:27:03,791 --> 01:27:07,391
Some definitions, source selection, and protest.

1463
01:27:07,401 --> 01:27:09,311
This procurement ordinance update

1464
01:27:09,311 --> 01:27:12,911
is intended to enhance consistency, clarify,

1465
01:27:12,991 --> 01:27:15,100
modernize some procurement practices to really

1466
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:17,287
reflect what our current practices and standards are

1467
01:27:17,287 --> 01:27:20,371
and to improve the operational efficiency while still

1468
01:27:20,371 --> 01:27:23,151
maintaining the high level of transparency,

1469
01:27:23,151 --> 01:27:25,151
competitiveness, and accountability.

1470
01:27:25,151 --> 01:27:29,951
We are requesting board input on proposed updates.

1471
01:27:30,110 --> 01:27:32,582
Which will advance as a public hearing in the fall.

1472
01:27:32,582 --> 01:27:36,440
To provide an overview, the procurement ordinance as a whole

1473
01:27:36,440 --> 01:27:37,671
covers 43 general subsections.

1474
01:27:37,671 --> 01:27:40,231
Focus on delegation of authority,

1475
01:27:40,231 --> 01:27:43,231
exemptions, definitions, conflict of interest,

1476
01:27:44,610 --> 01:27:47,610
source selection methods, protest process,

1477
01:27:48,371 --> 01:27:51,871
causes for suspension and debarment, as well as

1478
01:27:51,871 --> 01:27:55,471
inspection and testing this particular update.

1479
01:27:56,751 --> 01:27:59,751
The proposed revisions you'll find

1480
01:28:00,337 --> 01:28:02,591
are largely administrative in nature.

1481
01:28:02,591 --> 01:28:05,510
They're intended to align the procurement ordinance

1482
01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:07,631
with our current procurement practices.

1483
01:28:07,631 --> 01:28:09,734
Again, over the course of three decades,

1484
01:28:09,734 --> 01:28:12,139
we have evolved in terms of our processes.

1485
01:28:12,139 --> 01:28:14,311
We want to make sure that we're creating consistency

1486
01:28:14,311 --> 01:28:15,471
throughout the ordinance.

1487
01:28:15,471 --> 01:28:17,411
Supporting all competitive procurement methods

1488
01:28:17,411 --> 01:28:18,447
that now exist.

1489
01:28:18,447 --> 01:28:22,167
And incorporate the use of electronic procurement tools

1490
01:28:22,167 --> 01:28:23,239
and processes.

1491
01:28:23,239 --> 01:28:26,177
Since we are no longer paper based.

1492
01:28:26,177 --> 01:28:29,710
In the decades since the procurement ordinance was

1493
01:28:29,710 --> 01:28:31,343
adopted, technological advances have

1494
01:28:31,343 --> 01:28:33,377
come online and really transformed

1495
01:28:33,377 --> 01:28:35,377
the procurement process.

1496
01:28:35,404 --> 01:28:37,151
We leverage automation.

1497
01:28:37,151 --> 01:28:40,407
We reduce administrative costs to the community as well as

1498
01:28:40,407 --> 01:28:43,391
the county and utilizing these electronic systems.

1499
01:28:43,391 --> 01:28:45,541
Procurement methods for solicitation

1500
01:28:45,541 --> 01:28:48,599
have also evolved from the standard invitation for bid.

1501
01:28:48,599 --> 01:28:50,239
Which are competitive sealed bids.

1502
01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:51,624
And request for proposals.

1503
01:28:51,624 --> 01:28:54,510
Which includes some of those qualitative factors

1504
01:28:54,510 --> 01:28:56,710
to really identify overall best value.

1505
01:28:56,710 --> 01:28:57,803
Today's work session, we're going

1506
01:28:57,803 --> 01:28:59,511
to introduce a couple of additional tools

1507
01:28:59,511 --> 01:29:02,611
we would like to put in that toolbox for procurement methods.

1508
01:29:02,611 --> 01:29:05,417
It should be noted that the procurement division routinely

1509
01:29:05,417 --> 01:29:09,617
seeks feedback from internal and external stakeholders

1510
01:29:09,871 --> 01:29:12,357
to support our continuous improvement efforts

1511
01:29:12,357 --> 01:29:15,133
and we'll be taking you through some of those stakeholder

1512
01:29:15,133 --> 01:29:17,351
engagements that helped inform the proposed

1513
01:29:17,351 --> 01:29:19,231
updates to the procurement ordinance

1514
01:29:19,231 --> 01:29:22,151
as we go through the work session.

1515
01:29:22,151 --> 01:29:25,303
Transitioning to the proposed changes to the ordinance,

1516
01:29:25,303 --> 01:29:27,891
we really seek to modernize the ordinance for alignment

1517
01:29:27,891 --> 01:29:29,371
to best practices.

1518
01:29:29,371 --> 01:29:32,231
Ensuring that we're consistent throughout.

1519
01:29:32,231 --> 01:29:36,991
We're proposing updates to six of the general subsections.

1520
01:29:36,991 --> 01:29:39,511
Those include general updates, definitions,

1521
01:29:39,511 --> 01:29:43,111
competitive exemptions, the types of solicitations,

1522
01:29:43,217 --> 01:29:47,417
the protest process, and causes for suspension.

1523
01:29:47,911 --> 01:29:49,857
Regarding general updates covered

1524
01:29:49,857 --> 01:29:52,111
the procurement ordinance currently

1525
01:29:52,111 --> 01:29:53,791
identifies the procurement division

1526
01:29:53,791 --> 01:29:55,831
as the contracts department.

1527
01:29:55,831 --> 01:29:59,217
We are proposing an update to the Procurement Division

1528
01:29:59,217 --> 01:30:02,850
for consistency to the county's organizational structure.

1529
01:30:02,850 --> 01:30:04,684
These are some of the administrative changes

1530
01:30:04,684 --> 01:30:10,710
to bring it up to date to what the county's current standards

1531
01:30:10,710 --> 01:30:12,300
are the procurement ordinance also identifies

1532
01:30:12,300 --> 01:30:15,208
the Head of Procurement Division as the Chief of Purchasing

1533
01:30:15,208 --> 01:30:15,791
and Contracts.

1534
01:30:15,791 --> 01:30:18,591
We are proposing to update all references

1535
01:30:18,591 --> 01:30:21,291
to the term Chief procurement official, which

1536
01:30:21,291 --> 01:30:23,297
will remove the need for any ordinance update

1537
01:30:23,297 --> 01:30:25,286
if the current title of the procurement manager

1538
01:30:25,286 --> 01:30:26,486
were ever to change.

1539
01:30:26,486 --> 01:30:29,217
The procurement ordinance includes numerous provisions

1540
01:30:29,217 --> 01:30:32,700
which reference the term bids and we're

1541
01:30:32,700 --> 01:30:35,377
proposing to update the terminology throughout.

1542
01:30:35,377 --> 01:30:38,839
Just refer to solicitation that will

1543
01:30:38,839 --> 01:30:41,910
encompass all types of competitive procurement methods

1544
01:30:41,910 --> 01:30:43,215
and not specifically focus on bids.

1545
01:30:43,215 --> 01:30:46,510
The procurement ordinance also reflects very manual processes

1546
01:30:46,510 --> 01:30:47,820
for the submission of bids and proposals.

1547
01:30:47,820 --> 01:30:50,791
It should be noted since we are six years removed

1548
01:30:50,791 --> 01:30:53,981
from being a paper based procurement operation,

1549
01:30:53,981 --> 01:30:57,167
we want to propose an update to reflect

1550
01:30:57,167 --> 01:31:00,479
the use of the electronic procurement system, which

1551
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,311
is our sole platform utilized for all county

1552
01:31:03,311 --> 01:31:04,967
competitive solicitation processes.

1553
01:31:04,967 --> 01:31:06,977
That's some of the evolution over time

1554
01:31:06,977 --> 01:31:08,644
that we're now transitioning to leverage

1555
01:31:08,644 --> 01:31:10,311
some of the technologies.

1556
01:31:10,311 --> 01:31:12,579
Transitioning to definitions, we want

1557
01:31:12,579 --> 01:31:14,257
to ensure that we have concise verbiage

1558
01:31:14,257 --> 01:31:16,111
throughout the procurement ordinance.

1559
01:31:16,111 --> 01:31:19,111
We're proposing updates to remove unnecessary definitions

1560
01:31:19,111 --> 01:31:22,431
that have common meanings, such as business and contract.

1561
01:31:22,431 --> 01:31:24,741
We want to ensure terminology is consistent

1562
01:31:24,741 --> 01:31:26,291
and reflects current terms.

1563
01:31:26,291 --> 01:31:29,971
The proposed update will update the definition of construction

1564
01:31:29,971 --> 01:31:32,431
to a definition that is more consistent with the county's

1565
01:31:32,431 --> 01:31:36,231
current practice and replaces references to bitter,

1566
01:31:36,231 --> 01:31:38,391
again, with respondent where appropriate.

1567
01:31:38,391 --> 01:31:40,971
So that is a consistent terminology throughout,

1568
01:31:40,971 --> 01:31:43,844
regardless of the solicitation type.

1569
01:31:43,844 --> 01:31:45,697
Regarding competitive exemptions,

1570
01:31:45,697 --> 01:31:48,621
those are all codified under section 17-286.

1571
01:31:48,621 --> 01:31:52,161
They identified the following as exempt

1572
01:31:52,161 --> 01:31:53,469
from procurement requirements.

1573
01:31:53,469 --> 01:31:56,136
There is a series of them you'll see on the accompanying slides.

1574
01:31:56,136 --> 01:31:58,903
It starts with agreements to the board

1575
01:31:58,903 --> 01:32:02,501
and nonprofit and governmental entities for procurement

1576
01:32:02,501 --> 01:32:05,299
and transfer of sale and exchange of goods and services

1577
01:32:05,299 --> 01:32:06,896
with regards to this bullet point,

1578
01:32:06,896 --> 01:32:09,271
I would like the Commission to know that we are currently

1579
01:32:09,271 --> 01:32:10,921
undergoing a separate analysis that's

1580
01:32:10,921 --> 01:32:14,141
being performed with regard to nonprofit exemptions.

1581
01:32:14,141 --> 01:32:17,519
We will be advancing for further discussion in the future

1582
01:32:17,519 --> 01:32:21,551
and item specific to this particular analysis.

1583
01:32:21,551 --> 01:32:24,701
The second bullet you can see, there's

1584
01:32:24,701 --> 01:32:26,991
a myriad of competitive exemptions.

1585
01:32:26,991 --> 01:32:30,391
They include dues and memberships, advertisements,

1586
01:32:30,391 --> 01:32:35,310
engaging expert witnesses, title insurance for real property,

1587
01:32:35,310 --> 01:32:37,507
art and artistic services, etc..

1588
01:32:37,507 --> 01:32:41,581
It continues on with more competitive exemption elements

1589
01:32:41,581 --> 01:32:43,286
identified as real property.

1590
01:32:43,286 --> 01:32:47,390
Purchases from state and federal GSA term contracts.

1591
01:32:47,390 --> 01:32:50,751
If we are awarding contracts by any local state or national

1592
01:32:50,751 --> 01:32:53,404
government agency and we're utilizing those as piggybacks,

1593
01:32:53,404 --> 01:32:55,689
those are considered competitive exemptions period

1594
01:32:55,689 --> 01:32:58,231
this is the current listing of all the competitive exemptions

1595
01:32:58,231 --> 01:33:01,177
that exist in the procurement ordinance.

1596
01:33:01,177 --> 01:33:04,564
We're proposing updates to the competitive exemptions.

1597
01:33:04,564 --> 01:33:08,910
Including adding the competitive exemption for medical services

1598
01:33:08,910 --> 01:33:10,937
provided by physicians or other medical professionals.

1599
01:33:10,937 --> 01:33:14,271
This is primarily used by corrections and health services

1600
01:33:14,271 --> 01:33:17,231
to ensure the inmate population has the care

1601
01:33:17,231 --> 01:33:18,895
and treatment that they need.

1602
01:33:18,895 --> 01:33:21,481
While they're in our custody and care.

1603
01:33:21,481 --> 01:33:23,329
This exemption for medical services

1604
01:33:23,329 --> 01:33:25,204
by physicians and other medical professionals

1605
01:33:25,204 --> 01:33:28,981
is consistent with an exemption that is allowed by Florida State

1606
01:33:28,981 --> 01:33:29,651
Statute.

1607
01:33:29,651 --> 01:33:33,271
We are requesting an additional competitive exemption

1608
01:33:33,271 --> 01:33:34,631
for accreditations.

1609
01:33:34,631 --> 01:33:36,791
Typically there is only one accrediting body

1610
01:33:36,791 --> 01:33:38,527
and so it would be virtually impossible

1611
01:33:38,527 --> 01:33:42,391
for us to be able to gain competition amongst accrediting

1612
01:33:42,391 --> 01:33:45,391
bodies, since they're just competition

1613
01:33:45,951 --> 01:33:47,234
that typically exists.

1614
01:33:47,234 --> 01:33:49,776
We're looking to clarify the existing exemption for utilities

1615
01:33:49,776 --> 01:33:51,759
to include internet and phone services

1616
01:33:51,759 --> 01:33:53,495
and add language that might allow

1617
01:33:53,495 --> 01:33:56,904
for future expansion of those particular utilities exemptions

1618
01:33:56,904 --> 01:33:59,304
where competition doesn't exist.

1619
01:33:59,347 --> 01:34:04,147
With regards to types of solicitation, is --

1620
01:34:07,981 --> 01:34:10,751
that is the invitation for bid, which we know is our competitive

1621
01:34:10,751 --> 01:34:14,211
Seal bidding process, as well as request for proposals which

1622
01:34:14,211 --> 01:34:17,604
really seeks to achieve best value through qualitative

1623
01:34:17,604 --> 01:34:18,431
factors.

1624
01:34:18,431 --> 01:34:21,271
We're seeking to incorporate some additional procurement

1625
01:34:21,271 --> 01:34:24,777
methods to support agile and strategic procurement sourcing.

1626
01:34:24,777 --> 01:34:28,535
We'd like to add a process for the request

1627
01:34:28,535 --> 01:34:31,226
for information, which is an informal process that

1628
01:34:31,226 --> 01:34:33,991
allows the county to obtain information through market

1629
01:34:33,991 --> 01:34:37,651
analysis to help inform us when the county is unclear of how

1630
01:34:37,651 --> 01:34:38,991
to meet a specific need.

1631
01:34:38,991 --> 01:34:42,467
That helps us to gauge what the market has to bear,

1632
01:34:42,467 --> 01:34:45,257
fact finding, and helps us consider

1633
01:34:45,257 --> 01:34:48,771
how we might structure a formal solicitation in the future.

1634
01:34:48,771 --> 01:34:51,896
There's no award that's made in a request for information.

1635
01:34:51,896 --> 01:34:53,603
Is simply some market analysis.

1636
01:34:53,603 --> 01:34:56,287
We'd like to add a process for invitation to negotiate.

1637
01:34:56,287 --> 01:34:59,831
This method is very similar to a request for proposals, whereby

1638
01:34:59,831 --> 01:35:03,410
we would score in a short list the proposers

1639
01:35:03,410 --> 01:35:03,840
of the respondents.

1640
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:05,757
This particular process would allow the county

1641
01:35:05,757 --> 01:35:08,431
to simultaneously negotiate to ultimately achieve the best

1642
01:35:08,431 --> 01:35:10,311
value amongst the shortlisted firms.

1643
01:35:10,311 --> 01:35:13,599
This is a method that has been undertaken

1644
01:35:13,599 --> 01:35:15,158
by the state of Florida.

1645
01:35:15,158 --> 01:35:17,537
Also, if we're looking at our neighboring community,

1646
01:35:17,537 --> 01:35:20,817
the city of Orlando has the past leveraged invitation

1647
01:35:20,817 --> 01:35:22,781
to negotiate as a procurement strategy.

1648
01:35:22,781 --> 01:35:26,711
We'd like to add a new provision to consider public private

1649
01:35:26,711 --> 01:35:29,415
partnership proposals or the P3's.

1650
01:35:29,415 --> 01:35:33,150
Florida Statute 255065 provides a general process

1651
01:35:33,211 --> 01:35:36,131
that allows for agencies to create their own more

1652
01:35:36,131 --> 01:35:37,730
detailed process.

1653
01:35:37,730 --> 01:35:38,781
Many of our neighboring local governments

1654
01:35:38,781 --> 01:35:41,633
have created their own process but Orange County to date

1655
01:35:41,633 --> 01:35:43,191
has not yet done so.

1656
01:35:43,191 --> 01:35:46,390
By virtue of this update we're seeking

1657
01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:48,497
to be able to incorporate that so we

1658
01:35:48,497 --> 01:35:50,310
have a more defined process.

1659
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:52,621
We have received an unsolicited proposal

1660
01:35:52,621 --> 01:35:54,550
that is currently under evaluation

1661
01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:56,731
and so we're recommending that a process be created

1662
01:35:56,731 --> 01:35:58,911
to further delineate what that process will

1663
01:35:58,911 --> 01:36:01,831
be should we receive any future unsolicited proposals

1664
01:36:01,831 --> 01:36:02,891
in the future.

1665
01:36:02,891 --> 01:36:06,384
We are going to be providing an accompanying administrative

1666
01:36:06,384 --> 01:36:08,911
regulation to further define that process.

1667
01:36:08,911 --> 01:36:11,619
Which Heather will provide you some guidance on.

1668
01:36:11,619 --> 01:36:13,817
And I'm going to turn it over to Heather

1669
01:36:13,817 --> 01:36:17,471
to take us through the protest process portion of the work

1670
01:36:17,471 --> 01:36:19,471
session.

1671
01:36:19,831 --> 01:36:24,631
>> We have identified several inconsistencies in the protest

1672
01:36:26,391 --> 01:36:28,911
processes that are described in our current procurement

1673
01:36:28,911 --> 01:36:29,411
ordinance.

1674
01:36:29,411 --> 01:36:31,551
These inconsistencies have created confusion

1675
01:36:31,551 --> 01:36:33,695
to vendors in the past.

1676
01:36:33,695 --> 01:36:35,681
We have different time frames.

1677
01:36:35,681 --> 01:36:38,951
We have different methods by which people

1678
01:36:38,951 --> 01:36:41,321
are to challenge a procurement.

1679
01:36:41,321 --> 01:36:44,310
And it has resulted in sometimes people

1680
01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:45,851
not following the correct process

1681
01:36:45,851 --> 01:36:49,640
and sometimes losing out on their ability to protest.

1682
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,537
We are going to be talking more as we

1683
01:36:51,537 --> 01:36:54,510
go through this about some suggestions

1684
01:36:54,510 --> 01:36:56,521
that we have to improve that process.

1685
01:36:56,521 --> 01:37:01,297
This update hopefully will improve the clarity, efficiency,

1686
01:37:01,297 --> 01:37:04,241
and consistency of the protest process.

1687
01:37:04,241 --> 01:37:07,555
But we want to maintain fairness and due process.

1688
01:37:07,555 --> 01:37:11,755
On average, the county issues 345 formal solicitations

1689
01:37:12,441 --> 01:37:13,171
annually.

1690
01:37:13,171 --> 01:37:16,171
With a protest rate of 4%.

1691
01:37:17,564 --> 01:37:20,989
This gives you an idea of the number of protests

1692
01:37:20,989 --> 01:37:22,531
that have been received by the county

1693
01:37:22,531 --> 01:37:23,895
over the last several years.

1694
01:37:23,895 --> 01:37:27,103
As well as the percentage of those protests that were denied

1695
01:37:27,103 --> 01:37:28,911
and the percentage of those protests

1696
01:37:28,911 --> 01:37:33,431
that were upheld as they went through the process.

1697
01:37:33,431 --> 01:37:38,511
We put together this benchmark analysis that gives you --

1698
01:37:38,511 --> 01:37:40,947
I understand it's really small, and I apologize.

1699
01:37:40,947 --> 01:37:42,311
Gets a lot of information.

1700
01:37:42,311 --> 01:37:45,756
We're going to talk about these things in more detail moving

1701
01:37:45,756 --> 01:37:46,511
forward.

1702
01:37:46,511 --> 01:37:49,919
But a few things I would like you to notice about this slide,

1703
01:37:49,919 --> 01:37:53,807
one is that Orange County is in the minority

1704
01:37:53,807 --> 01:37:56,141
and we have two different processes,

1705
01:37:56,141 --> 01:37:58,979
depend whether it's an invitation for a bid

1706
01:37:58,979 --> 01:38:00,619
or a request for proposal.

1707
01:38:00,619 --> 01:38:04,371
As you can see, almost all of these other entities

1708
01:38:04,371 --> 01:38:06,301
have one process.

1709
01:38:06,301 --> 01:38:09,241
Regardless of the type of solicitation.

1710
01:38:09,241 --> 01:38:11,771
Miami Dade is an exception to that.

1711
01:38:11,771 --> 01:38:15,404
They have a carve out for a design solicitation,

1712
01:38:15,404 --> 01:38:17,151
funded with federal funds.

1713
01:38:17,151 --> 01:38:18,231
I'm not sure why.

1714
01:38:18,231 --> 01:38:21,676
But other than that, everyone has one consistent process,

1715
01:38:21,676 --> 01:38:23,887
regardless of the type of solicitation.

1716
01:38:23,887 --> 01:38:27,573
I would like to point out that most

1717
01:38:27,573 --> 01:38:30,864
of these organizations, the first level

1718
01:38:30,864 --> 01:38:35,604
is a protest to the procurement director or procurement manager.

1719
01:38:35,604 --> 01:38:38,701
Whatever their title is for that particular position.

1720
01:38:38,701 --> 01:38:43,215
I wanted to point out that as far as an appeal process,

1721
01:38:43,215 --> 01:38:45,363
almost all of these other entities

1722
01:38:45,363 --> 01:38:49,751
have some type of formal hearing as part of their appeal process.

1723
01:38:49,751 --> 01:38:52,131
Either a formal hearing before the Board

1724
01:38:52,131 --> 01:38:54,310
of County commissioners come a formal hearing

1725
01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:58,151
before the hearing master, or a special master or an appeal

1726
01:38:58,151 --> 01:38:58,651
committee.

1727
01:38:58,651 --> 01:39:02,722
And currently in our process we do not have a hearing.

1728
01:39:02,722 --> 01:39:07,237
We have a process whereby the appellate will

1729
01:39:07,237 --> 01:39:09,259
contact each one of your offices and try

1730
01:39:09,259 --> 01:39:13,794
to set up a meeting with you and so again, we're

1731
01:39:13,794 --> 01:39:15,461
going to talk about this in more detail.

1732
01:39:15,461 --> 01:39:17,451
These are the things we noticed when

1733
01:39:17,451 --> 01:39:21,351
we were looking at the other local governments

1734
01:39:21,351 --> 01:39:24,951
that we normally compare ourselves to.

1735
01:39:25,101 --> 01:39:28,310
Carrie is going to talk a little bit about some stakeholder

1736
01:39:28,310 --> 01:39:32,271
engagement that was done as part of this process.

1737
01:39:32,271 --> 01:39:34,271
And

1738
01:39:34,271 --> 01:39:36,876
>> We didn't coordinate our back and forth here.

1739
01:39:36,876 --> 01:39:39,747
For stakeholder engagement, back in April of this year

1740
01:39:39,747 --> 01:39:41,823
we launched a survey because we wanted to gain

1741
01:39:41,823 --> 01:39:44,223
some feedback from respondents.

1742
01:39:44,311 --> 01:39:47,321
Any proposal who might have participated

1743
01:39:47,321 --> 01:39:49,491
in a formal solicitation that was proposed

1744
01:39:49,491 --> 01:39:51,250
tested that doesn't necessarily mean

1745
01:39:51,250 --> 01:39:52,951
they were the ones protesting but they were

1746
01:39:52,951 --> 01:39:55,599
a party to the procurement process for which a protest was

1747
01:39:55,599 --> 01:39:56,990
filed.

1748
01:39:56,990 --> 01:39:59,937
We took a look at our FY 25 data of all our solicitations

1749
01:39:59,937 --> 01:40:02,524
that were protested and we sent out a survey

1750
01:40:02,524 --> 01:40:06,404
to 125 vendors, all of which has the entirety

1751
01:40:06,404 --> 01:40:08,361
of the pool of vendors that had participated

1752
01:40:08,361 --> 01:40:13,970
in a formal solicitation process during which a protest was

1753
01:40:13,970 --> 01:40:13,604
filed.

1754
01:40:13,604 --> 01:40:17,970
We left the survey out and open for a period of ten business

1755
01:40:17,970 --> 01:40:17,597
days.

1756
01:40:17,597 --> 01:40:20,463
We received a total of 11 responses.

1757
01:40:20,463 --> 01:40:25,690
In addition to that we convened a focus group

1758
01:40:25,690 --> 01:40:27,111
the following month where we invited a subsection

1759
01:40:27,111 --> 01:40:29,910
of those 125 vendors.

1760
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:31,775
Representing all of the different sections

1761
01:40:31,775 --> 01:40:37,175
so bidders and proposers who pursue goods and services.

1762
01:40:37,334 --> 01:40:38,751
Bidders and proposers who preserve

1763
01:40:38,751 --> 01:40:40,876
construction and professional service procurements.

1764
01:40:40,876 --> 01:40:43,164
We invited them to the table and we

1765
01:40:43,164 --> 01:40:45,781
got some feedback that helped inform the ordinance

1766
01:40:45,781 --> 01:40:48,554
updates that we're proposing as well as a separate procurement

1767
01:40:48,554 --> 01:40:51,137
action plan that's outside of the procurement ordinance update

1768
01:40:51,137 --> 01:40:53,605
that we're proposing and I will take you

1769
01:40:53,605 --> 01:40:55,105
through what each of those look like

1770
01:40:55,105 --> 01:40:57,343
as a result of that feedback.

1771
01:40:57,343 --> 01:40:59,324
With regards to the procurement update,

1772
01:40:59,324 --> 01:41:01,961
as a result of that feedback and engagement,

1773
01:41:01,961 --> 01:41:04,961
we're adding verbiage in to allow protesters the ability

1774
01:41:04,961 --> 01:41:08,671
to supplement their formal written protest after filing

1775
01:41:08,671 --> 01:41:11,487
a public record request is filled.

1776
01:41:11,487 --> 01:41:13,631
We heard from them it's a very short period of time

1777
01:41:13,631 --> 01:41:16,526
for which they have to protest and file their formal written.

1778
01:41:16,526 --> 01:41:18,831
And sometimes there's an accompanying public record

1779
01:41:18,831 --> 01:41:20,919
request that's in the process of being fulfilled.

1780
01:41:20,919 --> 01:41:22,801
They said it's not really fair if we get fulfillment

1781
01:41:22,801 --> 01:41:23,781
after the time frame.

1782
01:41:23,781 --> 01:41:26,715
We would like consideration that we submit a public record

1783
01:41:26,715 --> 01:41:30,141
request that we can utilize that and supplement that information.

1784
01:41:30,141 --> 01:41:31,766
We are writing that into allow for that

1785
01:41:31,766 --> 01:41:33,771
and give them that due process to understand

1786
01:41:33,771 --> 01:41:37,790
the record fulfillment and incorporate that in.

1787
01:41:37,790 --> 01:41:39,479
We are proposing to structure the protest process

1788
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:42,231
as a single consistent process regardless

1789
01:41:42,231 --> 01:41:43,595
of the procurement type.

1790
01:41:43,595 --> 01:41:45,303
Something that Heather mentioned that you

1791
01:41:45,303 --> 01:41:48,759
would see in the benchmarking is we have a separate protest

1792
01:41:48,759 --> 01:41:52,584
process for Ifb's versus a separate protest

1793
01:41:52,584 --> 01:41:54,532
process for RFP s.

1794
01:41:54,532 --> 01:41:56,199
The feedback from the business community

1795
01:41:56,199 --> 01:41:58,751
was that we just want to have a single process.

1796
01:41:58,751 --> 01:42:00,423
We don't want to have to figure out

1797
01:42:00,423 --> 01:42:05,133
what's the process for and IFB versus an RFP.

1798
01:42:05,133 --> 01:42:06,867
To avoid confusion and understand

1799
01:42:06,867 --> 01:42:08,575
how to navigate it because that's the way

1800
01:42:08,575 --> 01:42:10,579
we are structuring the protest update.

1801
01:42:10,579 --> 01:42:13,941
In accordance with one process throughout.

1802
01:42:13,941 --> 01:42:19,341
As a result of their feedback, we are responding

1803
01:42:29,558 --> 01:42:32,170
-- as the ordinance currently reads,

1804
01:42:32,170 --> 01:42:32,180
if you participate in an invitation for bid and you

1805
01:42:32,180 --> 01:42:34,531
protest, you as the protester are responsible to provide

1806
01:42:34,531 --> 01:42:36,535
your protest to all of the other bidders.

1807
01:42:36,535 --> 01:42:39,177
If you protest in an RFP process,

1808
01:42:39,177 --> 01:42:42,460
the current ordinance says we will distribute the protest

1809
01:42:42,460 --> 01:42:43,675
to all the other proposers.

1810
01:42:43,675 --> 01:42:45,791
We just want to make it consistent.

1811
01:42:45,791 --> 01:42:47,983
The feedback we heard in the focus group

1812
01:42:47,983 --> 01:42:50,855
was we want procurement to be the central point of contact.

1813
01:42:50,855 --> 01:42:53,343
That's what you told us it is throughout the whole process.

1814
01:42:53,343 --> 01:42:55,811
We don't want to have to be communicating and providing

1815
01:42:55,811 --> 01:42:57,751
any sort of messaging or information

1816
01:42:57,751 --> 01:42:59,206
to the others that participated.

1817
01:42:59,206 --> 01:43:01,301
That should be your function.

1818
01:43:01,301 --> 01:43:04,401
We are incorporating that in and removing the requirement

1819
01:43:04,401 --> 01:43:06,811
and creating the sole responsibility for procurement

1820
01:43:06,811 --> 01:43:10,567
to distribute the protest regardless of solicitation type.

1821
01:43:10,567 --> 01:43:14,361
In terms of a procurement action plan that's

1822
01:43:14,361 --> 01:43:15,944
outside of this ordinance update, what

1823
01:43:15,944 --> 01:43:18,319
are some of the actions we took away from the focus group

1824
01:43:18,319 --> 01:43:19,575
and from the survey?

1825
01:43:19,575 --> 01:43:23,457
As we are currently coordinating with our E-procurement platform,

1826
01:43:23,457 --> 01:43:27,239
which is open, to create some additional status

1827
01:43:27,239 --> 01:43:30,191
flags in the system that will automatically

1828
01:43:30,191 --> 01:43:31,961
deploy a notification.

1829
01:43:31,961 --> 01:43:36,710
That will give them a more automated information

1830
01:43:36,710 --> 01:43:38,761
to understand the status of the procurement.

1831
01:43:38,761 --> 01:43:41,871
Rather than have to go mine our website

1832
01:43:41,871 --> 01:43:44,271
for every specific status.

1833
01:43:45,610 --> 01:43:47,204
They'll receive an automatic notification

1834
01:43:47,204 --> 01:43:49,471
through their email that will inform them

1835
01:43:49,471 --> 01:43:52,503
and then they can go look at our recommendation for award pair

1836
01:43:52,503 --> 01:43:56,731
currently we don't have that technology throttle on.

1837
01:43:56,731 --> 01:44:00,240
It's incumbent upon any bitter or proposal

1838
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:01,607
to have to keep looking at our website

1839
01:44:01,607 --> 01:44:03,400
to see if a recommendation has been posted.

1840
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,567
We're trying to leverage some of the technology that

1841
01:44:05,567 --> 01:44:08,401
exists to help provide some more automated communication

1842
01:44:08,401 --> 01:44:10,351
to the business community so they

1843
01:44:10,351 --> 01:44:13,951
can understand the status in a more efficient way.

1844
01:44:13,951 --> 01:44:17,319
Additionally we've completed updates to our Boilerplates

1845
01:44:17,319 --> 01:44:20,631
to incorporate the debrief provision into all invitation

1846
01:44:20,631 --> 01:44:22,383
for bid Boilerplates.

1847
01:44:22,383 --> 01:44:25,743
It had existed only in a request for proposals

1848
01:44:25,743 --> 01:44:28,655
and so we would offer debriefs to proposers

1849
01:44:28,655 --> 01:44:33,281
to understand how their scoring was derived but we really didn't

1850
01:44:33,281 --> 01:44:34,971
have the debrief provision included

1851
01:44:34,971 --> 01:44:38,151
in an invitation for bid period and sometimes bidders are deemed

1852
01:44:38,151 --> 01:44:40,437
non-responsive and they really want

1853
01:44:40,437 --> 01:44:41,951
to have a deeper dive into why.

1854
01:44:41,951 --> 01:44:44,991
We do post that in the recommendation for award.

1855
01:44:44,991 --> 01:44:46,655
A posting that's on the website.

1856
01:44:46,655 --> 01:44:49,491
But some of them endeavor to want to have more education.

1857
01:44:49,491 --> 01:44:53,716
To learn about those specific factors in an invitation

1858
01:44:53,716 --> 01:44:56,381
to bid that led them to not be considered for their.

1859
01:44:56,381 --> 01:44:58,121
So we've already updated our Boilerplates

1860
01:44:58,121 --> 01:45:00,271
to include that debrief provision

1861
01:45:00,271 --> 01:45:02,496
so they know they have the opportunity to come to us

1862
01:45:02,496 --> 01:45:04,871
and we'll meet with them and explain it in further detail

1863
01:45:04,871 --> 01:45:07,491
to help educate them so it doesn't

1864
01:45:07,491 --> 01:45:10,135
occur in that situation in the future.

1865
01:45:10,135 --> 01:45:14,231
Those updates are already either in the work or the second one

1866
01:45:14,231 --> 01:45:15,855
with the debriefing is already done.

1867
01:45:15,855 --> 01:45:18,271
We're developing a an educational curriculum

1868
01:45:18,271 --> 01:45:20,884
to the departments to provide comprehensive training

1869
01:45:20,884 --> 01:45:23,154
on technical evaluation components.

1870
01:45:23,154 --> 01:45:25,271
That's a critical part of assessing any bidder's

1871
01:45:25,271 --> 01:45:27,129
responsibility and we want to make sure

1872
01:45:27,129 --> 01:45:29,671
that we're doing our part to educate some of those staff that

1873
01:45:29,671 --> 01:45:32,263
are assigned to do these types of things we want to make

1874
01:45:32,263 --> 01:45:34,671
sure they're fully informed and educated on what

1875
01:45:34,671 --> 01:45:37,711
specific components they need to make sure they are sufficiently

1876
01:45:37,711 --> 01:45:42,116
addressing, to determine the responsibility of any bidder.

1877
01:45:42,116 --> 01:45:45,116
Turn it back to Heather.

1878
01:45:46,351 --> 01:45:49,231
>> As we already mentioned covered the Procurement

1879
01:45:49,231 --> 01:45:52,131
ordinance defines two different processes for invitation

1880
01:45:52,131 --> 01:45:55,271
for bids and requests for proposals for protest.

1881
01:45:55,271 --> 01:45:58,651
Under the invitation for bids, the current process

1882
01:45:58,651 --> 01:46:02,709
is, we do a protest review with the procurement manager who

1883
01:46:02,709 --> 01:46:03,417
makes a decision.

1884
01:46:03,417 --> 01:46:05,250
If the person is unhappy with that decision,

1885
01:46:05,250 --> 01:46:09,135
they then go to a protest hearing with a protest committee

1886
01:46:09,135 --> 01:46:11,407
and then if they're still unhappy it's

1887
01:46:11,407 --> 01:46:13,287
an appeal to the board.

1888
01:46:13,287 --> 01:46:17,681
Under the request for proposals, they have a protest hearing.

1889
01:46:17,681 --> 01:46:20,171
They go back to the procurement committee that scored

1890
01:46:20,171 --> 01:46:22,511
the solicitation to begin with.

1891
01:46:22,511 --> 01:46:25,357
And then an appeal to the board.

1892
01:46:25,357 --> 01:46:29,183
The protest hearing with the procurement committee,

1893
01:46:29,183 --> 01:46:32,543
just so you know, some issues we run into recently,

1894
01:46:32,543 --> 01:46:37,351
there are some parts of a request for proposals that are

1895
01:46:37,351 --> 01:46:38,799
not scored by the committee.

1896
01:46:38,799 --> 01:46:41,791
They are scored by the procurement department

1897
01:46:41,791 --> 01:46:45,840
based on standards within the procurement manual.

1898
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,198
When someone protests that, they still

1899
01:46:47,198 --> 01:46:49,310
have to go back to the procurement committee

1900
01:46:49,310 --> 01:46:51,577
and that makes it difficult for the procurement committee

1901
01:46:51,577 --> 01:46:56,461
because they're trying to decide a protest about something

1902
01:46:56,461 --> 01:46:59,231
they didn't decide to begin with and have no control over.

1903
01:46:59,231 --> 01:47:01,910
So based on all of these issues, we're

1904
01:47:01,910 --> 01:47:03,971
recommending establishing one process for all solicitation

1905
01:47:03,971 --> 01:47:07,559
types to avoid the kind of conflicting processes

1906
01:47:07,559 --> 01:47:08,375
and confusion.

1907
01:47:08,375 --> 01:47:12,217
As we already mentioned, our benchmark analysis

1908
01:47:12,217 --> 01:47:14,601
only identified one other county that

1909
01:47:14,601 --> 01:47:18,201
has different processes based on the type of solicitation.

1910
01:47:18,201 --> 01:47:22,204
We're going to propose three different options for you

1911
01:47:22,204 --> 01:47:24,581
today to try to get some feedback as to what

1912
01:47:24,581 --> 01:47:26,239
you feel is the best option.

1913
01:47:26,239 --> 01:47:30,551
Option one would be maintain our current process

1914
01:47:30,551 --> 01:47:32,321
but add clarifications.

1915
01:47:32,321 --> 01:47:36,191
Do everything we can to try to avoid confusion.

1916
01:47:36,191 --> 01:47:39,151
For instance, like I mentioned, there's

1917
01:47:39,151 --> 01:47:43,287
different time periods based on the protest process.

1918
01:47:43,287 --> 01:47:45,431
We would make it all one time period.

1919
01:47:45,431 --> 01:47:47,550
Make the process consistent.

1920
01:47:47,550 --> 01:47:50,391
But still have the current process

1921
01:47:50,391 --> 01:47:51,917
that we already maintain.

1922
01:47:51,917 --> 01:47:54,851
Option two would be to replace the current process

1923
01:47:54,851 --> 01:47:58,111
with a decision by the procurement manager and then

1924
01:47:58,111 --> 01:48:00,786
an appeal hearing to the Board of County Commissioners.

1925
01:48:00,786 --> 01:48:04,331
Option three would be to replace the current process

1926
01:48:04,331 --> 01:48:07,571
with a decision by the procurement Manager and then

1927
01:48:07,571 --> 01:48:10,161
an appeal to a protest committee.

1928
01:48:10,161 --> 01:48:13,141
That protest committee would be comprised of three staff members

1929
01:48:13,141 --> 01:48:14,811
appointed by the county administrator

1930
01:48:14,811 --> 01:48:18,455
to serve in that capacity on an annual basis.

1931
01:48:18,455 --> 01:48:22,655
Again, option one would be administration --

1932
01:48:23,535 --> 01:48:26,101
would be to maintain the current process.

1933
01:48:26,101 --> 01:48:28,447
Which we've already identified has some issues.

1934
01:48:28,447 --> 01:48:32,809
We would do the best we could to create as many consistencies as

1935
01:48:32,809 --> 01:48:35,801
possible and try to avoid some of those problems

1936
01:48:35,801 --> 01:48:37,344
we've had in the past.

1937
01:48:37,344 --> 01:48:41,171
Option two would be to replace the current process

1938
01:48:41,171 --> 01:48:43,513
with the decision by the procurement manager

1939
01:48:43,513 --> 01:48:45,971
and an appeal hearing to the Board of County Commissioners.

1940
01:48:45,971 --> 01:48:48,423
This again would create a consistent process

1941
01:48:48,423 --> 01:48:51,504
for protest review and an appeal hearing

1942
01:48:51,504 --> 01:48:53,171
before the Board of County Commissioners

1943
01:48:53,171 --> 01:48:55,601
would ensure that the vendor has an opportunity

1944
01:48:55,601 --> 01:48:58,571
to present concerns to the Board of County Commissioners.

1945
01:48:58,571 --> 01:49:01,916
This would consist of an actual scheduled agenda item

1946
01:49:01,916 --> 01:49:04,151
where you would hear from both sides

1947
01:49:04,151 --> 01:49:06,951
as to what the substance of the process

1948
01:49:06,951 --> 01:49:10,511
is and then make a decision after the hearing.

1949
01:49:10,511 --> 01:49:14,164
And then again option three would be replace current process

1950
01:49:14,164 --> 01:49:16,261
with a decision by the procurement manager

1951
01:49:16,261 --> 01:49:19,135
and an appeal to this protest committee, which

1952
01:49:19,135 --> 01:49:21,701
would be made up of three individuals appointed

1953
01:49:21,701 --> 01:49:25,511
by the county administrator to serve on an annual basis.

1954
01:49:25,511 --> 01:49:28,996
This would provide a hearing process and also

1955
01:49:28,996 --> 01:49:34,396
a consistent process regardless of the type of solicitation.

1956
01:49:34,871 --> 01:49:40,271
Our recommendation is to -- is for option three.

1957
01:49:40,351 --> 01:49:43,511
Obviously it's up to you all which you would prefer

1958
01:49:43,511 --> 01:49:45,710
but that is what we are suggesting

1959
01:49:45,710 --> 01:49:49,857
as we feel like it could be the best option in terms of removing

1960
01:49:49,857 --> 01:49:54,570
these inconsistencies and also providing those who

1961
01:49:54,571 --> 01:49:58,156
are protesting with an ability to have a hearing in front

1962
01:49:58,156 --> 01:50:00,724
of individuals and present their case.

1963
01:50:00,724 --> 01:50:05,921
And we'll come back to that at the end of the presentation.

1964
01:50:05,921 --> 01:50:10,375
And then another item that we wanted to discuss with you today

1965
01:50:10,375 --> 01:50:13,844
is the possibility of a protest bond.

1966
01:50:13,844 --> 01:50:16,991
We are proposing implementing a protest bond that

1967
01:50:16,991 --> 01:50:19,961
recognizes the administrative resources that are required

1968
01:50:19,961 --> 01:50:22,321
to conduct a formal protest review

1969
01:50:22,321 --> 01:50:24,411
and encourages well-founded protest.

1970
01:50:24,411 --> 01:50:28,657
It's intended to support an efficient procurement process.

1971
01:50:28,657 --> 01:50:31,657
Not discourage legitimate vendor challenges.

1972
01:50:32,151 --> 01:50:34,239
It ensures that protests are filed

1973
01:50:34,239 --> 01:50:37,497
when there is a substantive basis for the challenge

1974
01:50:37,497 --> 01:50:40,710
while preserving their rights to due process.

1975
01:50:40,710 --> 01:50:44,871
Again we did some benchmark analyzes and you can see here,

1976
01:50:44,871 --> 01:50:50,271
most other organizations have some type of protest fund.

1977
01:50:50,711 --> 01:50:54,311
Some have -- for instance, Miami-Dade,

1978
01:50:55,311 --> 01:51:00,307
they have a filing fee and an admin fee per Seminole has 5%

1979
01:51:00,307 --> 01:51:01,911
or $5,000.

1980
01:51:01,911 --> 01:51:03,591
Whichever is less.

1981
01:51:03,591 --> 01:51:06,317
Some require a bond on appeal.

1982
01:51:06,317 --> 01:51:09,110
It varies based on the local government.

1983
01:51:09,110 --> 01:51:12,431
Most have some type of bond included

1984
01:51:12,431 --> 01:51:14,783
as part of the protest process.

1985
01:51:14,783 --> 01:51:18,527
And you can see, most of the time it is refundable.

1986
01:51:18,527 --> 01:51:20,131
If the protester prevails.

1987
01:51:20,131 --> 01:51:22,231
If the protester does not prevail,

1988
01:51:22,231 --> 01:51:25,831
sometimes it's refundable at less cost.

1989
01:51:26,831 --> 01:51:29,831
Again our staff recommendation is

1990
01:51:30,224 --> 01:51:32,597
to implement a protest bond requirement

1991
01:51:32,597 --> 01:51:37,511
equal to 1% of the annual value of the bid or proposal.

1992
01:51:37,511 --> 01:51:42,103
So the under design rewards would be an estimated budget

1993
01:51:42,103 --> 01:51:44,234
or a $5,000, whichever is less.

1994
01:51:44,234 --> 01:51:45,651
The bond would be fully refundable

1995
01:51:45,651 --> 01:51:47,732
if the protester prevails in their protest.

1996
01:51:47,732 --> 01:51:51,310
And again, this would be consistent with the bond

1997
01:51:51,310 --> 01:51:54,191
requirement for several other jurisdictions in the area.

1998
01:51:54,191 --> 01:51:57,502
This just gives you an idea of what

1999
01:51:57,502 --> 01:51:58,919
the bond would look like depending

2000
01:51:58,919 --> 01:52:00,127
on the value of solicitation.

2001
01:52:00,127 --> 01:52:04,927
If it was $250,000 solicitation, it would be $2,500 bond.

2002
01:52:05,177 --> 01:52:09,400
And then $1 million and up, it would be a $5,000 bond that

2003
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:12,400
would have to be posted.

2004
01:52:12,231 --> 01:52:15,454
And now Kerry is going to talk a little bit about causes

2005
01:52:15,454 --> 01:52:17,854
for suspension and we will come back

2006
01:52:17,854 --> 01:52:20,791
to the protest process at the end.

2007
01:52:20,791 --> 01:52:24,541
>> Section 17-314 of the ordinance addresses causes

2008
01:52:24,541 --> 01:52:28,220
for suspension and debarment and identifies nine scenarios

2009
01:52:28,220 --> 01:52:30,137
for which a vendor may be suspended.

2010
01:52:30,137 --> 01:52:33,650
These have been in place for many decades.

2011
01:52:33,650 --> 01:52:35,977
You can see five of them on the screen here.

2012
01:52:35,977 --> 01:52:38,581
When it comes to defaulting or failure

2013
01:52:38,581 --> 01:52:40,394
to comply with the contract, if they

2014
01:52:40,394 --> 01:52:41,811
commit fraud or misrepresentation,

2015
01:52:41,811 --> 01:52:46,751
if they're charged with a court with a criminal offense,

2016
01:52:46,751 --> 01:52:50,877
charged in court for embezzlement, theft, forgery,

2017
01:52:50,877 --> 01:52:51,524
etc.

2018
01:52:51,524 --> 01:52:55,724
Or if they have bankruptcy proceedings instituted

2019
01:52:55,911 --> 01:52:57,191
against it.

2020
01:52:57,191 --> 01:53:00,733
Continuing on if they commission an act or a mission to perform

2021
01:53:00,733 --> 01:53:04,559
any act which is grounds for departure --

2022
01:53:04,559 --> 01:53:06,817
if they're suspended by another governmental entity.

2023
01:53:06,817 --> 01:53:09,444
Many of our counterparts and even the state of Florida

2024
01:53:09,444 --> 01:53:13,364
does produce lists that are monitored for if they're

2025
01:53:13,364 --> 01:53:14,431
convicted offenders.

2026
01:53:14,431 --> 01:53:18,379
We have the ability to suspend reflectively.

2027
01:53:18,379 --> 01:53:22,631
Or if there's any other cause that the procurement manager

2028
01:53:22,631 --> 01:53:24,791
determines on a commercial basis to be

2029
01:53:24,791 --> 01:53:27,971
so serious and compelling that it materially versus,

2030
01:53:27,971 --> 01:53:31,871
impacts their ability to function as a contractor.

2031
01:53:31,871 --> 01:53:38,457
It is -- there is still due process if for some reason they

2032
01:53:38,457 --> 01:53:41,930
are suspended, they have the ability to appeal and go through

2033
01:53:41,930 --> 01:53:44,883
the due process, to be able to state their case as to why they

2034
01:53:44,883 --> 01:53:46,716
believe they should not have been suspended.

2035
01:53:46,716 --> 01:53:49,266
We're proposing some updates to the suspension division.

2036
01:53:49,266 --> 01:53:51,497
As you see on the screen, we'd like

2037
01:53:51,497 --> 01:53:54,551
to add the ability to suspend the principles of the business

2038
01:53:54,551 --> 01:53:58,351
entity, as well as the business entity itself that participated

2039
01:53:58,351 --> 01:54:00,784
in the activity causing the suspension period we'd

2040
01:54:00,784 --> 01:54:04,950
like to add in the ability to suspend for a violation of Cone

2041
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:06,209
of Silence or the blackout period

2042
01:54:06,209 --> 01:54:07,751
because that currently does not exist

2043
01:54:07,751 --> 01:54:09,455
and yet it is a very serious offense

2044
01:54:09,455 --> 01:54:13,311
if someone is to violate our blackout process.

2045
01:54:13,311 --> 01:54:17,630
We want to add the ability to suspend for withdrawal

2046
01:54:17,630 --> 01:54:19,751
of a better proposal after opening

2047
01:54:19,751 --> 01:54:22,521
and this would only be if multiple occurrences were

2048
01:54:22,521 --> 01:54:25,351
to happen period such as there is a trend of constantly asking

2049
01:54:25,351 --> 01:54:28,215
for withdrawal after the bid opening occurs.

2050
01:54:28,215 --> 01:54:32,111
We'd like to add in the ability to suspend if the vendor fails

2051
01:54:32,111 --> 01:54:34,951
to comply with the county's small business enterprise

2052
01:54:34,951 --> 01:54:38,671
participation or requirements of an awarded contract.

2053
01:54:38,671 --> 01:54:43,783
Previous one, the mwb process, when that program was in place,

2054
01:54:43,783 --> 01:54:47,184
there was a suspension ability to basically mirror this

2055
01:54:47,184 --> 01:54:51,495
and we sunsetted it when the mwb was suspended.

2056
01:54:51,495 --> 01:54:54,311
We'd like to bring it back in the form of an ability

2057
01:54:54,311 --> 01:54:57,731
to suspend if they don't comply.

2058
01:54:57,731 --> 01:55:00,817
And we'd like to allow for the length of the suspension

2059
01:55:00,817 --> 01:55:04,671
to be effective for a period of up to five years currently

2060
01:55:04,671 --> 01:55:07,871
the code limits up to two years of suspension.

2061
01:55:07,871 --> 01:55:11,337
Heather's going to take us through the administrator

2062
01:55:11,337 --> 01:55:15,710
regulations that will accompany the procurement ordinance

2063
01:55:15,710 --> 01:55:16,271
updates.

2064
01:55:16,271 --> 01:55:17,871
And

2065
01:55:17,871 --> 01:55:21,510
>> As a companion to the procurement ordinance update,

2066
01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:24,447
we would like to add some language in the ordinance

2067
01:55:24,447 --> 01:55:26,551
to incorporate public private partnerships,

2068
01:55:26,551 --> 01:55:28,421
as Carrie discussed earlier.

2069
01:55:28,421 --> 01:55:30,111
These are allowed by statute.

2070
01:55:30,111 --> 01:55:33,211
We have actually received one that we are currently

2071
01:55:33,211 --> 01:55:33,821
processing.

2072
01:55:33,821 --> 01:55:36,177
We would like to suggest and incorporation

2073
01:55:36,177 --> 01:55:39,804
into the ordinance but also a new administrative regulation

2074
01:55:39,804 --> 01:55:44,639
that would give us a much more specific process for how

2075
01:55:44,639 --> 01:55:48,239
we would process those unsolicited proposals.

2076
01:55:48,337 --> 01:55:51,871
This will provide a formal process that's accessible

2077
01:55:51,871 --> 01:55:55,310
to proposers prior to submittal to provide transparency

2078
01:55:55,310 --> 01:55:56,929
and consistency in processing.

2079
01:55:56,929 --> 01:55:59,113
Right now the one we're processing,

2080
01:55:59,113 --> 01:56:01,582
we are using the statute to process it.

2081
01:56:01,582 --> 01:56:04,918
The statute doesn't have a lot of detail in it.

2082
01:56:04,918 --> 01:56:09,738
We would like to have a process that gives us more, and gives

2083
01:56:09,738 --> 01:56:11,571
people who want to submit them more guidance

2084
01:56:11,571 --> 01:56:14,117
as to what we are expecting as part

2085
01:56:14,117 --> 01:56:15,851
of their unsolicited proposal.

2086
01:56:15,851 --> 01:56:18,191
It would be consistent with processes

2087
01:56:18,191 --> 01:56:21,614
that are adopted by other local governments in the area.

2088
01:56:21,614 --> 01:56:23,531
Would also provide for an application fee that

2089
01:56:23,531 --> 01:56:26,993
would help reimburse the county for extensive staff time spent

2090
01:56:26,993 --> 01:56:29,351
on the review of these proposals.

2091
01:56:29,351 --> 01:56:33,391
I can tell you with the one we are currently processing now,

2092
01:56:33,391 --> 01:56:36,590
a number of staff members have spent a significant amount

2093
01:56:36,590 --> 01:56:39,377
of time reviewing that, before we get to the point

2094
01:56:39,377 --> 01:56:41,591
where we feel like we can't bring it to you.

2095
01:56:41,591 --> 01:56:44,351
And then there is of course, if you all

2096
01:56:44,351 --> 01:56:46,519
decide to move forward with it, they'll

2097
01:56:46,519 --> 01:56:48,671
be negotiating a contract.

2098
01:56:48,671 --> 01:56:52,633
They will be monitoring the process as it moves forward.

2099
01:56:52,633 --> 01:56:55,537
We would like to have an application fee that

2100
01:56:55,537 --> 01:57:00,830
helps pay the county back, so to speak, for the amount of time

2101
01:57:00,830 --> 01:57:02,310
that we're spending on these.

2102
01:57:02,310 --> 01:57:04,161
We're also proposing some revisions

2103
01:57:04,161 --> 01:57:07,947
to the administrative regulation for the procurement Committee

2104
01:57:07,947 --> 01:57:08,447
membership.

2105
01:57:08,447 --> 01:57:12,295
We are updating it to the SBE instead of the MWBE.

2106
01:57:12,295 --> 01:57:17,471
We're also updating to reflect the fact that the scoring will

2107
01:57:17,471 --> 01:57:19,851
be consistent with ordinance solicitation and procurement

2108
01:57:19,851 --> 01:57:20,351
manual.

2109
01:57:20,351 --> 01:57:21,911
We're also proposing some revisions

2110
01:57:21,911 --> 01:57:25,244
to the administrative regulation for contract negotiation

2111
01:57:25,244 --> 01:57:29,375
because we're trying to update it to reflect how we actually

2112
01:57:29,375 --> 01:57:31,661
go about negotiating contracts.

2113
01:57:31,661 --> 01:57:34,901
As far as our key policy recommendations

2114
01:57:34,901 --> 01:57:37,377
that we'd like input on before we

2115
01:57:37,377 --> 01:57:39,564
bring the ordinance back to you, one

2116
01:57:39,564 --> 01:57:42,564
would be the protest process.

2117
01:57:42,731 --> 01:57:46,591
As we discussed, we're suggesting three options.

2118
01:57:46,591 --> 01:57:49,804
Option one, maintain the current process but add clarifications.

2119
01:57:49,804 --> 01:57:53,231
Option two, replace the current process with a decision

2120
01:57:53,231 --> 01:57:56,840
by the procurement manager and appeal hearing

2121
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:57,644
to the Board of County Commissioners.

2122
01:57:57,644 --> 01:58:00,577
Or option three, replace the current process

2123
01:58:00,577 --> 01:58:02,401
with a decision by the Procurement Manager

2124
01:58:02,401 --> 01:58:05,610
and an appeal to a protest committee comprised

2125
01:58:05,610 --> 01:58:06,951
of three staff members, appointed

2126
01:58:06,951 --> 01:58:09,351
by the county administrator.

2127
01:58:22,699 --> 01:58:22,702
>> Thank you.

2128
01:58:22,702 --> 01:58:22,707
Does that conclude your presentation?

2129
01:58:22,707 --> 01:58:22,713
>> We've got one other recommendation.

2130
01:58:22,713 --> 01:58:23,511
>> I was going to ask, do you want to stop and let the board

2131
01:58:23,511 --> 01:58:25,302
weigh each one?

2132
01:58:25,302 --> 01:58:26,344
>> There's only one more.

2133
01:58:26,344 --> 01:58:29,383
We also wanted, we also mentioned a recommendation

2134
01:58:29,383 --> 01:58:33,290
for a board direction on a protest bond.

2135
01:58:33,290 --> 01:58:34,821
We would love some direction on whether you

2136
01:58:34,821 --> 01:58:37,951
would like us to bring that back as part of the ordinance update

2137
01:58:37,951 --> 01:58:39,951
or not.

2138
01:58:41,351 --> 01:58:43,241
And that's it.

2139
01:58:43,241 --> 01:58:46,841
Unless you have follow up questions.

2140
01:58:46,961 --> 01:58:47,503
>> Thank you.

2141
01:58:47,503 --> 01:58:49,719
We will go to the board for comments.

2142
01:58:49,719 --> 01:58:52,823
We have a couple commissioners who rang in.

2143
01:58:52,823 --> 01:58:55,223
Starting with Commissioner Uribe.

2144
01:58:55,897 --> 01:58:57,156
>> Good morning ladies.

2145
01:58:57,156 --> 01:58:59,124
Thank you for this update.

2146
01:58:59,124 --> 01:59:03,543
Just a really quick question, what is our current appeal

2147
01:59:03,543 --> 01:59:05,197
cost right now?

2148
01:59:05,197 --> 01:59:08,671
So if somebody appeals a decision.

2149
01:59:08,671 --> 01:59:12,311
>> There's no cost for anything right now.

2150
01:59:12,311 --> 01:59:13,799
>> Nothing right now?

2151
01:59:13,799 --> 01:59:16,351
We're pretty much one of the only major counties that

2152
01:59:16,351 --> 01:59:17,151
doesn't.

2153
01:59:17,151 --> 01:59:18,682
That's what I thought.

2154
01:59:18,682 --> 01:59:21,823
I had a couple notes here.

2155
01:59:21,823 --> 01:59:24,911
One, during procurement process over the last year,

2156
01:59:24,911 --> 01:59:28,543
there were state and federal law changes that caused that process

2157
01:59:28,543 --> 01:59:33,247
to change and I was one that advocated for rebidding

2158
01:59:33,247 --> 01:59:37,843
because I felt that if you were actually in that process or had

2159
01:59:37,843 --> 01:59:43,243
been awarded the contract, if those measures had kept,

2160
01:59:43,655 --> 01:59:50,811
at once -- but when that is a heavy weight part of the RFP,

2161
01:59:50,811 --> 01:59:55,383
it's swayed the entire process and ironically when you rebid

2162
01:59:55,383 --> 01:59:57,575
it, it actually went totally different.

2163
01:59:57,575 --> 02:00:02,691
My point is, I don't feel like that is addressed enough.

2164
02:00:02,691 --> 02:00:05,181
Those things are out of your control.

2165
02:00:05,181 --> 02:00:07,319
If the federal government or state government

2166
02:00:07,319 --> 02:00:12,607
says you no longer can do this, how do we proceed in the future

2167
02:00:12,607 --> 02:00:16,710
because, I felt they were correct.

2168
02:00:16,710 --> 02:00:21,255
But I felt the way you took it made sense

2169
02:00:21,255 --> 02:00:26,535
but it didn't really make sense because one company had never

2170
02:00:26,535 --> 02:00:30,263
really put the effort into that application

2171
02:00:30,263 --> 02:00:34,563
and so the company who never even went by the rules

2172
02:00:34,563 --> 02:00:37,397
that we existed would have been awarded the contract.

2173
02:00:37,397 --> 02:00:39,931
Can you give me some feedback on that?

2174
02:00:39,931 --> 02:00:42,619
>> I hope I answered your question right, Commissioner.

2175
02:00:42,619 --> 02:00:44,661
Please help me if I need to provide more context.

2176
02:00:44,661 --> 02:00:47,371
You're right, sometimes there are changes in legislation

2177
02:00:47,371 --> 02:00:49,871
that will help what we can evaluate

2178
02:00:49,871 --> 02:00:51,440
and what we can't evaluate.

2179
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:52,461
What we've done in the procurement

2180
02:00:52,461 --> 02:00:54,691
Procedures manual is we've incorporated

2181
02:00:54,691 --> 02:00:58,151
a threshold of a firm must achieve

2182
02:00:58,151 --> 02:01:01,451
a minimum score of 60% of the total weighted score

2183
02:01:01,451 --> 02:01:04,143
in order to be deemed considered qualified.

2184
02:01:04,143 --> 02:01:07,931
That will help us in the event that a criteria

2185
02:01:07,931 --> 02:01:10,687
needs to become because it's no longer allowed

2186
02:01:10,687 --> 02:01:11,479
by law to consider.

2187
02:01:11,479 --> 02:01:14,964
We don't have to have a total weighting of 100 necessarily.

2188
02:01:14,964 --> 02:01:17,744
If you're familiar with the procurement process

2189
02:01:17,744 --> 02:01:20,207
and I know that you are because you've said on many of them

2190
02:01:20,207 --> 02:01:22,977
and participated, the total weighting is typically 100

2191
02:01:22,977 --> 02:01:26,344
and then we have a scale of one through five for the scoring.

2192
02:01:26,344 --> 02:01:27,761
Proposer could achieve potentially

2193
02:01:27,761 --> 02:01:30,505
a total of 500 points if they got fives

2194
02:01:30,505 --> 02:01:32,110
on all of the A criteria.

2195
02:01:32,110 --> 02:01:35,319
Our baseline has always been a score of 300

2196
02:01:35,319 --> 02:01:37,510
is the minimum to advance forward.

2197
02:01:37,510 --> 02:01:38,971
That's basically a three.

2198
02:01:38,971 --> 02:01:40,794
That's meeting minimum requirements.

2199
02:01:40,794 --> 02:01:42,777
360% of 500.

2200
02:01:42,777 --> 02:01:45,331
That's how we establish the baseline of 60%.

2201
02:01:45,331 --> 02:01:48,453
Even if that total weighting of 100

2202
02:01:48,453 --> 02:01:50,286
needs to be throttled down because something

2203
02:01:50,286 --> 02:01:52,621
is no longer able to be considered but we've established

2204
02:01:52,621 --> 02:01:55,791
that that total waiting time, the five eligible points,

2205
02:01:55,791 --> 02:01:57,963
you have to achieve 60% of that.

2206
02:01:57,963 --> 02:01:59,946
That gives us the ability to continue on.

2207
02:01:59,946 --> 02:02:04,591
I don't know if that answered your question Commissioner.

2208
02:02:04,591 --> 02:02:10,991
>> It doesn't because at the time that was a very significant

2209
02:02:10,991 --> 02:02:15,211
part of the procurement process we had in Orange County.

2210
02:02:15,211 --> 02:02:18,431
We really respected companies that actually took that

2211
02:02:18,431 --> 02:02:20,204
into place as opposed to a company

2212
02:02:20,204 --> 02:02:22,643
who disregarded it completely and never would

2213
02:02:22,643 --> 02:02:24,891
have qualified to get that bid.

2214
02:02:24,891 --> 02:02:28,101
I don't feel that's an easy fix because mathematically,

2215
02:02:28,101 --> 02:02:32,301
and you guys are math geniuses, you

2216
02:02:32,367 --> 02:02:36,311
would just say if I just remove this, remove that value,

2217
02:02:36,311 --> 02:02:37,831
everything should work out.

2218
02:02:37,831 --> 02:02:40,404
But then I think of the applicant part

2219
02:02:40,404 --> 02:02:42,171
when I know how important that is

2220
02:02:42,171 --> 02:02:44,471
and I make sure my company fulfills that

2221
02:02:44,471 --> 02:02:48,771
and maybe I wasn't as strong in other areas.

2222
02:02:48,771 --> 02:02:54,312
Now I didn't get to just apply according to your rules.

2223
02:02:54,312 --> 02:02:57,111
I don't see it as clean as that.

2224
02:02:57,111 --> 02:03:00,928
And I really can't offer you -- this is what you all do.

2225
02:03:00,928 --> 02:03:02,676
I can't offer you the exact way but I

2226
02:03:02,676 --> 02:03:06,761
don't think that we should be able to do that.

2227
02:03:06,761 --> 02:03:10,121
I don't think that's really fair because the applicant applied

2228
02:03:10,121 --> 02:03:12,455
with the rules that were set and the rules

2229
02:03:12,455 --> 02:03:14,477
got changed after they applied.

2230
02:03:14,477 --> 02:03:19,375
As much as that is very difficult for you

2231
02:03:19,375 --> 02:03:22,686
all, how do we deal with this, we would essentially

2232
02:03:22,686 --> 02:03:24,313
have to redo all of our work.

2233
02:03:24,313 --> 02:03:26,951
It would be nice to find a way to do that.

2234
02:03:26,951 --> 02:03:30,771
When you think of veterans, let's just say the veteran.

2235
02:03:30,771 --> 02:03:33,311
It doesn't carry as much weight.

2236
02:03:33,311 --> 02:03:37,384
My experience has been where companies have not had any

2237
02:03:37,384 --> 02:03:39,444
and then let's just say our next president

2238
02:03:39,444 --> 02:03:42,581
says I want to take care of veterans

2239
02:03:42,581 --> 02:03:45,581
and completely weighs it up.

2240
02:03:46,391 --> 02:03:48,809
You would actually exclude a lot of your applicants

2241
02:03:48,809 --> 02:03:50,184
right now who don't really invest

2242
02:03:50,184 --> 02:03:53,710
in that part of your application.

2243
02:03:53,710 --> 02:03:57,871
Hopefully we won't be dealing with anything extreme.

2244
02:03:58,407 --> 02:04:02,307
We have to be cognizant of that.

2245
02:04:02,307 --> 02:04:04,111
I think it's hard.

2246
02:04:04,111 --> 02:04:09,851
I will tell you, I worry on a couple of things and I just want

2247
02:04:09,851 --> 02:04:10,956
to --

2248
02:04:10,956 --> 02:04:13,710
I am falling in line with your recommendations.

2249
02:04:13,710 --> 02:04:16,155
I have been boisterous over the years on certain things

2250
02:04:16,155 --> 02:04:17,891
that I didn't feel were great.

2251
02:04:17,891 --> 02:04:20,831
When we talked about headquartered.

2252
02:04:20,831 --> 02:04:24,711
There was a case that you guys helped tweak it

2253
02:04:24,711 --> 02:04:29,547
where the applicant was not even based in Florida.

2254
02:04:29,547 --> 02:04:31,547
Went against it.

2255
02:04:31,831 --> 02:04:35,574
Was lobbying federal -- went against companies who were based

2256
02:04:35,574 --> 02:04:36,221
in Florida.

2257
02:04:36,221 --> 02:04:37,391
Won the bid.

2258
02:04:37,391 --> 02:04:39,511
I was really upset about that because I

2259
02:04:39,511 --> 02:04:42,551
said we are not helping a business that's

2260
02:04:42,551 --> 02:04:44,551
actually located centrally.

2261
02:04:45,401 --> 02:04:49,601
My concern comes on the value point.

2262
02:04:51,551 --> 02:04:57,551
And also I've also sat through your executive order sheet.

2263
02:04:58,111 --> 02:05:01,660
Where they're like hey come on our HR lady is this.

2264
02:05:01,660 --> 02:05:03,337
So give us points because we have a position here.

2265
02:05:03,337 --> 02:05:05,631
It is not you.

2266
02:05:05,631 --> 02:05:06,419
It is me.

2267
02:05:06,419 --> 02:05:08,440
Sometimes I question these applications

2268
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:10,159
and I sat through them and I've read them

2269
02:05:10,159 --> 02:05:12,431
and I've questioned did you just happen

2270
02:05:12,431 --> 02:05:15,371
to stick someone in that department to qualify

2271
02:05:15,371 --> 02:05:17,371
and so forth.

2272
02:05:17,471 --> 02:05:23,471
I wonder when another issue is, when we've requested folks

2273
02:05:24,271 --> 02:05:29,671
at our headquarters, who just have office space here

2274
02:05:29,747 --> 02:05:31,871
but don't really have an office here.

2275
02:05:31,871 --> 02:05:36,710
When do we start validating those things.

2276
02:05:37,111 --> 02:05:40,631
Especially when they are repeat applicants.

2277
02:05:40,631 --> 02:05:44,231
Kind of tend to those companies that

2278
02:05:44,231 --> 02:05:45,911
go after government contracts.

2279
02:05:45,911 --> 02:05:47,431
They're kind of shaped that way.

2280
02:05:47,431 --> 02:05:50,159
When I talk to businesses, and I was a little disappointed

2281
02:05:50,159 --> 02:05:54,371
on the return of your 9%, because what we notice is

2282
02:05:54,371 --> 02:05:58,999
companies were -- we have found that over the years, their kids,

2283
02:05:58,999 --> 02:06:03,467
a student at UCF, and they use their kids dorm as an office,

2284
02:06:03,467 --> 02:06:05,391
or they rent a room at ABC construction,

2285
02:06:05,391 --> 02:06:08,192
so they can say we have an office here.

2286
02:06:08,192 --> 02:06:09,177
But they really don't.

2287
02:06:09,177 --> 02:06:10,783
So that means money they're taking

2288
02:06:10,783 --> 02:06:12,447
is going to another state.

2289
02:06:12,447 --> 02:06:14,831
And not staying here.

2290
02:06:14,831 --> 02:06:19,310
Have we ever gotten into really looking

2291
02:06:19,471 --> 02:06:24,923
into that a little deeper to really validate the tax dollars.

2292
02:06:24,923 --> 02:06:26,383
What's rolling out of their.

2293
02:06:26,383 --> 02:06:28,804
How many employees are actually here.

2294
02:06:28,804 --> 02:06:32,919
When I talk to a lot of folks who want to apply,

2295
02:06:32,919 --> 02:06:38,463
but, just don't feel it's a very -- it's really solidified.

2296
02:06:38,463 --> 02:06:42,301
And then I've had people come to me who are part of a contract

2297
02:06:42,301 --> 02:06:44,680
and didn't get the work.

2298
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:48,611
And they just get to those, that division is like well,

2299
02:06:48,611 --> 02:06:49,451
good faith.

2300
02:06:49,451 --> 02:06:51,331
Well, good faith isn't rules.

2301
02:06:51,331 --> 02:06:53,831
I can tell you don't be bad and that doesn't

2302
02:06:53,831 --> 02:06:56,351
mean, what does bad mean?

2303
02:06:56,351 --> 02:07:00,797
You guys do such a great job at really scoping the best person.

2304
02:07:00,797 --> 02:07:03,311
I think the other half of this is actually

2305
02:07:03,311 --> 02:07:05,675
securing that those are done and fulfilled

2306
02:07:05,675 --> 02:07:08,799
because a lot of these people come back and rebid

2307
02:07:08,799 --> 02:07:10,799
on other projects.

2308
02:07:10,863 --> 02:07:16,271
I would love to see a little more teeth in how you do that.

2309
02:07:16,271 --> 02:07:20,343
And it worries me a little because I've

2310
02:07:20,343 --> 02:07:25,891
sat in these where we've got people from that division.

2311
02:07:25,891 --> 02:07:29,491
Because clearly you won't know what's

2312
02:07:30,710 --> 02:07:34,271
important to public works or solid waste.

2313
02:07:34,671 --> 02:07:37,897
I don't think that's the intended way of how

2314
02:07:37,897 --> 02:07:38,973
you look at applications.

2315
02:07:38,973 --> 02:07:40,831
But I've sat in those conversations where

2316
02:07:40,831 --> 02:07:44,517
I've pushed back, not all the time because I don't know,

2317
02:07:44,517 --> 02:07:49,731
but to say well, it works, so we're good with that

2318
02:07:49,731 --> 02:07:51,623
and I've also seen how you all have tried

2319
02:07:51,623 --> 02:07:54,351
to get references and have had challenges actually

2320
02:07:54,351 --> 02:07:58,431
even getting anyone to call you back and things like that.

2321
02:07:58,431 --> 02:08:01,870
Sure, if I gave someone a contract, what motivation

2322
02:08:01,870 --> 02:08:05,104
do I have that no longer contracted with me to help

2323
02:08:05,104 --> 02:08:06,613
them get additional work?

2324
02:08:06,613 --> 02:08:09,911
I hope one day we can actually look at what all this means

2325
02:08:09,911 --> 02:08:10,791
in that situation.

2326
02:08:10,791 --> 02:08:13,519
I am not for delaying.

2327
02:08:13,519 --> 02:08:16,527
I think it'll take too long.

2328
02:08:16,527 --> 02:08:18,384
I think that's probably why we end up

2329
02:08:18,384 --> 02:08:20,710
paying more than market rate.

2330
02:08:20,710 --> 02:08:21,911
Because if I put a bit in today, it

2331
02:08:21,911 --> 02:08:24,391
could be a year before I actually get the job.

2332
02:08:24,391 --> 02:08:25,562
So costs go up.

2333
02:08:25,562 --> 02:08:28,779
I think it's a backlash of how folks just know, hey,

2334
02:08:28,779 --> 02:08:30,487
bid high with the government because it's

2335
02:08:30,487 --> 02:08:33,199
going to take forever to get it and I've just

2336
02:08:33,199 --> 02:08:36,295
spent so much manpower applying for this.

2337
02:08:36,295 --> 02:08:39,516
But it really won't come through until 27.

2338
02:08:39,516 --> 02:08:45,516
I would love to find ways to help streamline that.

2339
02:08:46,671 --> 02:08:48,937
I am with you for option three.

2340
02:08:48,937 --> 02:08:52,964
I do think some people just like to protest because they can.

2341
02:08:52,964 --> 02:08:57,844
I do believe the bonding is that I would

2342
02:08:57,844 --> 02:09:01,751
like to see additional ways of finding when you do protest

2343
02:09:01,751 --> 02:09:04,531
that there has to be some legitimacy, just

2344
02:09:04,531 --> 02:09:07,531
besides I didn't like it.

2345
02:09:07,851 --> 02:09:09,511
I've seen that two.

2346
02:09:09,511 --> 02:09:12,991
I do worry when things have been rebooted within your system

2347
02:09:12,991 --> 02:09:15,111
and the numbers change.

2348
02:09:15,111 --> 02:09:19,862
I question two things, was there not openness and fairness

2349
02:09:19,862 --> 02:09:20,799
the first time?

2350
02:09:20,799 --> 02:09:23,566
Or was it not openness and fairness the second time?

2351
02:09:23,566 --> 02:09:26,519
I had an issue with the last RFP that came up here,

2352
02:09:26,519 --> 02:09:28,354
because how did that completely change?

2353
02:09:28,354 --> 02:09:29,937
It had nothing to do with the company.

2354
02:09:29,937 --> 02:09:33,439
It worries me on the process because it was the same players

2355
02:09:33,439 --> 02:09:35,151
changing of mind.

2356
02:09:35,151 --> 02:09:38,350
Except one person no longer worked for Orange County.

2357
02:09:38,350 --> 02:09:40,344
That is worrisome to me.

2358
02:09:40,344 --> 02:09:42,288
When you do that.

2359
02:09:42,288 --> 02:09:45,351
Carey, I mean I think your team really

2360
02:09:45,351 --> 02:09:48,597
tries to be as clear and transparent on this.

2361
02:09:48,597 --> 02:09:53,431
But I think outside of your job, making sure these things that

2362
02:09:53,431 --> 02:09:55,848
are fulfilled on how you got it, it

2363
02:09:55,848 --> 02:09:57,997
has to become part of the process

2364
02:09:57,997 --> 02:10:00,375
for people who are repeat applicants.

2365
02:10:00,375 --> 02:10:02,839
I'm with you on option three.

2366
02:10:02,839 --> 02:10:07,897
I do also believe that there should be a bond minimally.

2367
02:10:07,897 --> 02:10:10,893
But I do think that we take too long.

2368
02:10:10,893 --> 02:10:16,975
I would just love to wait, find a way that we can streamline,

2369
02:10:16,975 --> 02:10:20,171
maybe by putting the bond and maybe by doing things,

2370
02:10:20,171 --> 02:10:26,171
but I would love to have more weight on --

2371
02:10:28,710 --> 02:10:32,815
someone gets a five on veterans but it means so little.

2372
02:10:32,815 --> 02:10:38,107
And then the complying of repeat applicants who get other things.

2373
02:10:38,107 --> 02:10:42,907
Did they really hire all the small businesses?

2374
02:10:43,311 --> 02:10:45,136
Companies they would use locally.

2375
02:10:45,136 --> 02:10:47,910
Because I've heard too many small businesses

2376
02:10:47,910 --> 02:10:50,345
not get the work when they were part of an application.

2377
02:10:50,345 --> 02:10:53,870
And then they came forward to qualify on their own,

2378
02:10:53,870 --> 02:10:57,836
and then one last thing is I would

2379
02:10:57,836 --> 02:11:00,737
love to also see a prime be required

2380
02:11:00,737 --> 02:11:02,524
to put their own bonding up.

2381
02:11:02,524 --> 02:11:06,550
Not make the small sub put their own bonding when they actually

2382
02:11:06,550 --> 02:11:08,137
qualified for the RFP.

2383
02:11:08,137 --> 02:11:10,271
And this is something with Sheena.

2384
02:11:10,271 --> 02:11:12,391
Because they're capable of bonding.

2385
02:11:12,391 --> 02:11:15,523
If I'm capable of bonding $1 million,

2386
02:11:15,523 --> 02:11:18,361
but I hire a subcontractor and I make my subcontractor

2387
02:11:18,361 --> 02:11:21,582
use his own bonding on his share of the work, that

2388
02:11:21,582 --> 02:11:23,847
doesn't seem fair because that's what qualified

2389
02:11:23,847 --> 02:11:25,351
the guy in the first place.

2390
02:11:25,351 --> 02:11:26,751
Thank you.

2391
02:11:26,751 --> 02:11:28,840
>> Thank you Commissioner Uribe.

2392
02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:30,840
Commissioner Wilson.

2393
02:11:30,111 --> 02:11:31,277
>> Very briefly for me.

2394
02:11:31,277 --> 02:11:35,470
I think I want to be super complimentary to your team,

2395
02:11:35,470 --> 02:11:39,630
to this process, for people who don't understand

2396
02:11:39,630 --> 02:11:43,171
public procurement and the importance of it being public.

2397
02:11:43,171 --> 02:11:45,537
That is sometimes in and of itself

2398
02:11:45,537 --> 02:11:47,948
a delay because it is a public process.

2399
02:11:47,948 --> 02:11:51,737
It is something that we have a great deal of deliberation.

2400
02:11:51,737 --> 02:11:55,991
Anybody that wants to know how bad things can get when you

2401
02:11:55,991 --> 02:11:57,667
do go through that process come and go

2402
02:11:57,667 --> 02:11:59,790
check out the reflecting pool in DC.

2403
02:11:59,790 --> 02:12:02,761
It is critical that we include as many experts

2404
02:12:02,761 --> 02:12:06,750
when we go through these processes.

2405
02:12:06,750 --> 02:12:08,277
I think for the purpose of this update,

2406
02:12:08,277 --> 02:12:11,891
I want to say a lot of it feels very common sense to me

2407
02:12:11,891 --> 02:12:18,491
and I know sometimes it's a lived experience for you all.

2408
02:12:19,391 --> 02:12:21,539
Then to make them part of an update

2409
02:12:21,539 --> 02:12:24,370
is very and efficiency in and of itself.

2410
02:12:24,370 --> 02:12:24,950
Thank you for that.

2411
02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:28,431
I am supportive of option three, which aligns

2412
02:12:28,431 --> 02:12:29,751
with staff recommendations.

2413
02:12:29,751 --> 02:12:36,396
I am also in support of the implementation of a protest bond

2414
02:12:36,396 --> 02:12:40,739
and I want to -- those are my two things.

2415
02:12:40,739 --> 02:12:43,520
I am going to support both of those.

2416
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:44,847
But I also wanted for public purpose

2417
02:12:44,847 --> 02:12:47,197
for you to explain a little bit or give

2418
02:12:47,197 --> 02:12:52,151
an example of what an invitation to negotiate is, in comparison.

2419
02:12:52,151 --> 02:12:55,311
Because I think it's a little bit of a different creature.

2420
02:12:55,311 --> 02:12:56,329
>> Thank you for asking.

2421
02:12:56,329 --> 02:12:57,961
It is a method that's out there and there's

2422
02:12:57,961 --> 02:12:59,836
certain agencies that utilize it because they

2423
02:12:59,836 --> 02:13:01,631
have the ability to.

2424
02:13:01,631 --> 02:13:06,577
The previous to coming to Orange County, we leveraged invitation

2425
02:13:06,577 --> 02:13:08,110
for negotiations several times.

2426
02:13:08,110 --> 02:13:10,110
I've had a little bit of experience doing those.

2427
02:13:10,110 --> 02:13:12,900
I know the city of Orlando has done them

2428
02:13:12,900 --> 02:13:14,644
and I've said in training that the state of Florida has given.

2429
02:13:14,644 --> 02:13:18,146
They've leveraged invitations to negotiate as well.

2430
02:13:18,146 --> 02:13:21,684
An invitation to negotiate is still a formal solicitation

2431
02:13:21,684 --> 02:13:22,377
process.

2432
02:13:22,377 --> 02:13:24,386
Like into an RFP process.

2433
02:13:24,386 --> 02:13:26,560
It's kind of labeled differently.

2434
02:13:26,560 --> 02:13:28,431
There's still criteria that one would have to go through.

2435
02:13:28,431 --> 02:13:30,731
They get scored like a shortlisting period

2436
02:13:30,731 --> 02:13:32,871
but what it gives us the ability to do

2437
02:13:32,871 --> 02:13:35,591
is let's say we shortlist to three firms,

2438
02:13:35,591 --> 02:13:38,683
we couldn't negotiate with all three of them at the same time

2439
02:13:38,683 --> 02:13:40,491
to try to arrive at the best negotiated

2440
02:13:40,491 --> 02:13:42,123
agreement with the county.

2441
02:13:42,123 --> 02:13:44,447
As opposed to only going to the top rank

2442
02:13:44,447 --> 02:13:46,735
from negotiating and then if we're not successful,

2443
02:13:46,735 --> 02:13:48,971
we have to terminate and go to the next.

2444
02:13:48,971 --> 02:13:50,771
It gives us the ability to simultaneously

2445
02:13:50,771 --> 02:13:52,431
negotiate amongst those three to try

2446
02:13:52,431 --> 02:13:57,871
to figure out how we can get the best negotiated agreement.

2447
02:13:57,871 --> 02:13:59,591
>> So really another efficiency.

2448
02:13:59,591 --> 02:14:01,991
Thank you so much.

2449
02:14:14,767 --> 02:14:16,184
>> Thank you, Commissioner Wilson.

2450
02:14:16,184 --> 02:14:18,584
Commissioner >> Thank you, Commissioner.

2451
02:14:20,298 --> 02:14:21,215
I have four questions.

2452
02:14:21,215 --> 02:14:21,219
I think they're easy.

2453
02:14:21,219 --> 02:14:21,226
I don't think they have been answered.

2454
02:14:21,226 --> 02:14:22,893
The first one is in the protest process.

2455
02:14:22,893 --> 02:14:28,293
For example, how will this affect small minority business?

2456
02:14:30,751 --> 02:14:33,571
>> The protest process is the same regardless of business

2457
02:14:33,571 --> 02:14:34,710
type.

2458
02:14:34,710 --> 02:14:37,817
They all follow the same process and our current ordinance,

2459
02:14:37,817 --> 02:14:40,431
regardless if they're a small business or minority

2460
02:14:40,431 --> 02:14:41,764
business or a large firm.

2461
02:14:41,764 --> 02:14:43,577
They have to follow the same process.

2462
02:14:43,577 --> 02:14:45,879
That would be no different if we updated.

2463
02:14:45,879 --> 02:14:47,921
Would apply to all the business community and not

2464
02:14:47,921 --> 02:14:49,447
just subsections of it.

2465
02:14:49,447 --> 02:14:51,596
They would all have to consistently follow

2466
02:14:51,596 --> 02:14:53,596
the same process.

2467
02:14:54,577 --> 02:14:57,910
>> Could this be a financial barrier?

2468
02:14:57,910 --> 02:15:02,491
Could they be penalized if they have the bond?

2469
02:15:02,631 --> 02:15:06,919
>> It could be I have seen some other local governments that

2470
02:15:06,919 --> 02:15:11,119
waive the bond for registered small businesses.

2471
02:15:12,951 --> 02:15:15,590
That could be an option if that's something

2472
02:15:15,590 --> 02:15:19,259
you wanted us to put in there.

2473
02:15:29,968 --> 02:15:30,468
>> Okay.

2474
02:15:30,468 --> 02:15:34,680
But will this penalize the vendor?

2475
02:15:39,637 --> 02:15:41,970
>> It will be a cost to them to bring forward a protest.

2476
02:15:41,970 --> 02:15:41,978
But if they prevail, they'll get it back.

2477
02:15:41,978 --> 02:15:43,936
It's only if they do not prevail in the protest

2478
02:15:43,936 --> 02:15:48,136
that we would hold on to it.

2479
02:15:53,632 --> 02:15:56,132
>> They will have to have it by the application time, right,

2480
02:15:56,132 --> 02:15:56,137
when they submit the application?

2481
02:15:56,137 --> 02:15:56,148
>> No, when they actually file a protest to the decision.

2482
02:15:56,148 --> 02:15:57,111
They wouldn't need to file it in a normal solicitation

2483
02:15:57,111 --> 02:15:58,903
period's only when they decide if they want

2484
02:15:58,903 --> 02:16:01,647
to bring a protest themselves of the decision,

2485
02:16:01,647 --> 02:16:06,271
then they would have to file the bond.

2486
02:16:06,271 --> 02:16:13,471
>> Keeping that line, do we have any data showing how many bids

2487
02:16:16,401 --> 02:16:20,601
protest Orange County or how many were

2488
02:16:30,816 --> 02:16:32,816
[indiscernible]

2489
02:16:37,260 --> 02:16:39,734
>> There's the data Commissioner from 2020 to on current to date.

2490
02:16:39,734 --> 02:16:39,742
So you can see the number of protests

2491
02:16:39,742 --> 02:16:39,746
received by fiscal year.

2492
02:16:39,746 --> 02:16:42,204
And ultimately the percent that were upheld by fiscal year.

2493
02:16:42,204 --> 02:16:44,327
And again on average we get about 4%

2494
02:16:44,327 --> 02:16:47,231
of our total solicitations that are

2495
02:16:47,231 --> 02:16:50,231
protested on an annual basis.

2496
02:16:50,911 --> 02:16:52,911
>> Thank you.

2497
02:16:53,111 --> 02:16:54,551
>> I had a question on this slide.

2498
02:16:54,551 --> 02:16:57,791
Just out of curiosity, when you look

2499
02:16:57,791 --> 02:17:01,135
at the numbers and the number of protests that were received,

2500
02:17:01,135 --> 02:17:04,791
in the years where there is a higher number received,

2501
02:17:04,791 --> 02:17:08,561
protest, is there some type of a market shock

2502
02:17:08,561 --> 02:17:12,950
that happens that creates a catalyst effect

2503
02:17:12,950 --> 02:17:14,495
or anything like that?

2504
02:17:14,977 --> 02:17:16,849
>> It's a good question, Commissioner.

2505
02:17:16,849 --> 02:17:19,437
But I can't tell you that off the top of my head.

2506
02:17:19,437 --> 02:17:21,744
Was it a time with extreme volatility where people

2507
02:17:21,744 --> 02:17:24,371
were kind of vying more for government contracts as opposed

2508
02:17:24,371 --> 02:17:26,775
to times when the market was more

2509
02:17:26,775 --> 02:17:28,759
stabilized so they had choices in the market,

2510
02:17:28,759 --> 02:17:31,236
I really can't tell you today and put my finger

2511
02:17:31,236 --> 02:17:34,271
on what caused the increase over certain years

2512
02:17:34,271 --> 02:17:35,151
versus other years.

2513
02:17:35,151 --> 02:17:37,311
It's possible it could be correlated to something

2514
02:17:37,311 --> 02:17:39,503
with regards to supply chain or volatility,

2515
02:17:39,503 --> 02:17:43,111
but I don't have that data to share with you.

2516
02:17:43,111 --> 02:17:44,360
>> Thank you.

2517
02:17:44,360 --> 02:17:47,359
I would like to say that I appreciate your department so

2518
02:17:47,359 --> 02:17:52,271
much because I think that the entire reason of procurement

2519
02:17:52,271 --> 02:17:54,441
process and making sure we have a good one

2520
02:17:54,441 --> 02:17:56,591
is to make sure that public money is used

2521
02:17:56,591 --> 02:18:00,161
to the benefit of public and not just to serve those who

2522
02:18:00,161 --> 02:18:02,271
are politically well connected.

2523
02:18:02,271 --> 02:18:05,790
Your process is very important to ensure fairness.

2524
02:18:05,790 --> 02:18:10,351
I also support option three with my colleagues as well.

2525
02:18:10,351 --> 02:18:12,951
And I wanted to just let you know

2526
02:18:12,951 --> 02:18:17,841
that I also appreciated how you included and educational front.

2527
02:18:17,841 --> 02:18:21,631
Where when somebody applies and doesn't get it,

2528
02:18:21,631 --> 02:18:23,679
that you actually spend time with the applicant

2529
02:18:23,679 --> 02:18:24,585
to educate them.

2530
02:18:24,585 --> 02:18:27,377
I know that your time is valuable.

2531
02:18:27,377 --> 02:18:31,910
And I know that's an additional task on your plate.

2532
02:18:31,910 --> 02:18:33,871
But I know it's super important as far as small businesses

2533
02:18:33,871 --> 02:18:35,311
to learn from you.

2534
02:18:35,311 --> 02:18:37,610
You guys are the experts.

2535
02:18:37,610 --> 02:18:39,511
I thank you for all that you do.

2536
02:18:39,511 --> 02:18:42,964
Byron, there was no requested action period

2537
02:18:42,964 --> 02:18:46,591
can I hear that there's a consensus.

2538
02:18:46,591 --> 02:18:50,605
Commissioner Scott, did you want to ring in?

2539
02:18:50,605 --> 02:18:52,605
No, go ahead.

2540
02:19:08,197 --> 02:19:09,530
>> We talk about those statuses.

2541
02:19:09,530 --> 02:19:13,381
Could you put a generic update, because obviously

2542
02:19:13,381 --> 02:19:16,968
just in the room of processes, there

2543
02:19:16,968 --> 02:19:19,840
could be a lot going on administratively.

2544
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:21,484
And there's no update.

2545
02:19:21,577 --> 02:19:24,101
But a lot has passed.

2546
02:19:24,101 --> 02:19:27,611
Something that allows you to give a generic update

2547
02:19:27,611 --> 02:19:29,102
and say there is no update.

2548
02:19:29,102 --> 02:19:31,871
In regards to the options, so every year

2549
02:19:31,871 --> 02:19:35,110
the county administrator will pick a process, rate?

2550
02:19:35,110 --> 02:19:37,931
Have you figured out what you guys

2551
02:19:37,931 --> 02:19:42,551
are going to do when we add two additional commissioners?

2552
02:19:42,551 --> 02:19:44,199
Obviously right now it averages out

2553
02:19:44,199 --> 02:19:47,131
to about two procurements per commissioner per year.

2554
02:19:47,131 --> 02:19:49,876
Are you still tweaking that process or have you

2555
02:19:49,876 --> 02:19:50,955
landed on that?

2556
02:19:50,955 --> 02:19:53,288
>> Good question that's prescribed in the administrative

2557
02:19:53,288 --> 02:19:56,771
regulation of the composition of the procurement committee and it

2558
02:19:56,771 --> 02:19:58,970
does identify board delegates.

2559
02:19:58,970 --> 02:20:01,601
We do the quick math and we have six district commissioners.

2560
02:20:01,601 --> 02:20:04,977
Serve on a rotating basis, basically two months out

2561
02:20:04,977 --> 02:20:05,897
of the year.

2562
02:20:05,897 --> 02:20:07,151
It was easy math.

2563
02:20:07,151 --> 02:20:08,791
We have 12 months.

2564
02:20:08,791 --> 02:20:10,170
Six commissioners.

2565
02:20:10,170 --> 02:20:11,823
That's something we're going to be doing.

2566
02:20:11,823 --> 02:20:14,591
The staff assignment of those come January.

2567
02:20:14,591 --> 02:20:15,977
We working through that now.

2568
02:20:15,977 --> 02:20:16,960
What does it look like.

2569
02:20:16,960 --> 02:20:18,259
Is it an eight week rotation.

2570
02:20:18,259 --> 02:20:22,581
Is it something that we just go through, the districts,

2571
02:20:22,581 --> 02:20:25,583
so you won't necessarily have January and July.

2572
02:20:25,583 --> 02:20:29,111
You might have January and then several months later.

2573
02:20:29,111 --> 02:20:30,611
It's not exact math now.

2574
02:20:30,611 --> 02:20:32,191
But yes Commissioner, it is something

2575
02:20:32,191 --> 02:20:33,608
we are thinking about now as we're

2576
02:20:33,608 --> 02:20:36,735
going to be elevating to a district commissioners.

2577
02:20:36,735 --> 02:20:39,121
We want to make sure we have that staffing scheduled

2578
02:20:39,121 --> 02:20:40,371
for the procurement committee.

2579
02:20:40,371 --> 02:20:43,971
That will be forthcoming in January.

2580
02:20:44,511 --> 02:20:47,704
>> And are there any other counties or cities that have

2581
02:20:47,704 --> 02:20:54,304
a more public or process that involves members of the public?

2582
02:20:56,711 --> 02:20:59,121
Is there like a procurement advisory committee

2583
02:20:59,121 --> 02:21:01,400
or anything like that?

2584
02:21:01,400 --> 02:21:02,442
>> Not that I'm aware of.

2585
02:21:02,442 --> 02:21:04,137
I could do some outreach to pole peers.

2586
02:21:04,137 --> 02:21:05,444
I'm not aware of that.

2587
02:21:05,444 --> 02:21:07,710
There are occasions Commissioner,

2588
02:21:07,710 --> 02:21:11,241
where we do have members from either another agency

2589
02:21:11,241 --> 02:21:14,911
or technical advisors that serve on a procurement committee

2590
02:21:14,911 --> 02:21:16,959
to give that technical advisor.

2591
02:21:16,959 --> 02:21:20,596
But I'm not aware of any sort of member advisory committee that

2592
02:21:20,596 --> 02:21:22,521
would be associated with procurements.

2593
02:21:22,521 --> 02:21:26,559
As you know, these are public meetings.

2594
02:21:26,559 --> 02:21:28,119
The public can come.

2595
02:21:28,119 --> 02:21:31,279
We also broadcast them virtually as a courtesy

2596
02:21:31,279 --> 02:21:33,271
to help some people who don't want

2597
02:21:33,271 --> 02:21:34,951
to drive down to the office.

2598
02:21:34,951 --> 02:21:37,591
We have many people who are just observing the proceedings

2599
02:21:37,591 --> 02:21:38,951
virtually as well.

2600
02:21:38,951 --> 02:21:42,596
Whether their proposals or whether their citizens come

2601
02:21:42,596 --> 02:21:43,471
we don't really know.

2602
02:21:43,471 --> 02:21:46,571
But we do allow for those folks to come in and observe it.

2603
02:21:46,571 --> 02:21:49,151
They're not participating, but I am not

2604
02:21:49,151 --> 02:21:51,671
aware of any agency that has any sort of member

2605
02:21:51,671 --> 02:21:55,871
advisory committee associated with any given procurements.

2606
02:21:57,310 --> 02:22:00,310
>> Two more things, vice mayor.

2607
02:22:00,265 --> 02:22:05,110
With the -- I guess the boilerplate that you were

2608
02:22:05,110 --> 02:22:05,781
talking about.

2609
02:22:05,781 --> 02:22:08,511
In the language, when you talk about

2610
02:22:08,511 --> 02:22:13,377
like frequency of payments, the net 30, the prompt payment act,

2611
02:22:13,377 --> 02:22:15,911
and then you talk about insurance thresholds,

2612
02:22:15,911 --> 02:22:18,831
I know that there have been a number of barriers

2613
02:22:18,831 --> 02:22:20,639
and Commissioner Cordero kind of talked

2614
02:22:20,639 --> 02:22:24,231
about this, of smaller businesses who might otherwise

2615
02:22:24,231 --> 02:22:26,597
be eligible, but are financially priced out

2616
02:22:26,597 --> 02:22:29,550
because they can't afford some of the insurance thresholds.

2617
02:22:29,550 --> 02:22:31,519
And I know that not every company

2618
02:22:31,519 --> 02:22:33,220
needs every level of insurance.

2619
02:22:33,220 --> 02:22:36,211
We require a lot of insurance and generally it's standard.

2620
02:22:36,211 --> 02:22:44,611
But really looking at -- how do we put systems in place that are

2621
02:22:45,191 --> 02:22:49,111
easy to allow for the waving of insurance?

2622
02:22:49,111 --> 02:22:51,287
Because right now it seems challenging to just go

2623
02:22:51,287 --> 02:22:52,241
through the process.

2624
02:22:52,241 --> 02:22:56,670
But something that will allow you or John Pizzarelli

2625
02:22:56,670 --> 02:23:00,591
and his team to make some type of adjustment.

2626
02:23:00,591 --> 02:23:02,991
We need honesty insurance.

2627
02:23:03,887 --> 02:23:07,487
We don't -- that's another cost.

2628
02:23:08,831 --> 02:23:11,310
That cost is factored in.

2629
02:23:11,310 --> 02:23:14,739
Whereas if I didn't have that cost it'd be cheaper to you

2630
02:23:14,739 --> 02:23:16,739
as an entity.

2631
02:23:17,311 --> 02:23:19,647
>> Typically what I'll say Commissioner is we have

2632
02:23:19,647 --> 02:23:22,164
a collaborative workspace with risk.

2633
02:23:22,164 --> 02:23:26,571
We are managing a large system with them.

2634
02:23:26,571 --> 02:23:29,244
We're constantly collaborating on when we have scopes.

2635
02:23:29,244 --> 02:23:31,937
We start with the basic standard insurance requirements

2636
02:23:31,937 --> 02:23:35,910
that they require and then we kind of do bolt on

2637
02:23:35,910 --> 02:23:37,887
to and say this is a construction project

2638
02:23:37,887 --> 02:23:40,211
or they're going to need pollution liability.

2639
02:23:40,211 --> 02:23:41,644
We add on.

2640
02:23:41,644 --> 02:23:44,335
They are working out there in social services.

2641
02:23:44,335 --> 02:23:47,335
They need the child protection.

2642
02:23:48,610 --> 02:23:50,550
In addition to the standard.

2643
02:23:50,550 --> 02:23:51,924
We are always coordinating with risk

2644
02:23:51,924 --> 02:23:54,311
to understand what is the specific level of insurance

2645
02:23:54,311 --> 02:23:55,936
needed for this particular procurement.

2646
02:23:55,936 --> 02:23:57,422
It's not one size fits all.

2647
02:23:57,422 --> 02:24:00,791
We don't require them to provide their insurance with their bid

2648
02:24:00,791 --> 02:24:01,551
or proposal.

2649
02:24:01,551 --> 02:24:03,191
Only at the time of award.

2650
02:24:03,191 --> 02:24:05,657
We don't want people to have to come out of money just

2651
02:24:05,657 --> 02:24:08,284
to be able to bind that insurance coverage.

2652
02:24:08,284 --> 02:24:10,111
That's something I want to be clear,

2653
02:24:10,111 --> 02:24:13,500
we don't ever want anyone to have to commit funding,

2654
02:24:13,500 --> 02:24:15,831
just to submit a bid or proposal.

2655
02:24:15,831 --> 02:24:17,299
It's only for that awardee.

2656
02:24:17,299 --> 02:24:19,341
But we do declare what the insurance requirements

2657
02:24:19,341 --> 02:24:21,887
will be for that particular procurement in the solicitation.

2658
02:24:21,887 --> 02:24:23,999
As part of our education when we do

2659
02:24:23,999 --> 02:24:26,487
outreach as we encourage folks, take a look

2660
02:24:26,487 --> 02:24:27,711
at your current coverage.

2661
02:24:27,711 --> 02:24:29,891
Take a look at what the county is asking for.

2662
02:24:29,891 --> 02:24:32,396
Get with your carrier and see if they can do gap.

2663
02:24:32,396 --> 02:24:35,103
If you have a gap in that coverage and you're successful,

2664
02:24:35,103 --> 02:24:39,407
what is the value, what is the cost to cover that fact.

2665
02:24:39,407 --> 02:24:42,791
So that you're covered for that event.

2666
02:24:42,791 --> 02:24:46,145
We try to educate on that but we do

2667
02:24:46,145 --> 02:24:49,337
work very closely with risk on a case by case basis

2668
02:24:49,337 --> 02:24:52,547
to make sure we have the proper insurance coverages declared

2669
02:24:52,547 --> 02:24:53,470
upfront.

2670
02:24:53,470 --> 02:24:54,259
Not after the fact.

2671
02:24:54,259 --> 02:24:56,551
It's not really fair to go back to somebody and say now

2672
02:24:56,551 --> 02:24:58,511
you need to have these additional coverages.

2673
02:24:58,511 --> 02:25:01,831
That's not how we handle procurements.

2674
02:25:01,831 --> 02:25:03,481
>> My last thing is more of a comment.

2675
02:25:03,481 --> 02:25:06,727
You're aware we discussed this before.

2676
02:25:06,727 --> 02:25:10,319
As you obviously will talk about the makeup of who

2677
02:25:10,319 --> 02:25:11,373
these staffers are.

2678
02:25:11,373 --> 02:25:14,471
On a year to year basis.

2679
02:25:14,471 --> 02:25:17,607
I would ask that it never be a circumstance where there is

2680
02:25:17,607 --> 02:25:20,511
a supervisor and a subordinate.

2681
02:25:20,511 --> 02:25:21,391
>> Yes.

2682
02:25:21,391 --> 02:25:22,857
>> That was a concern.

2683
02:25:22,857 --> 02:25:27,351
Like okay, my boss is voting one way, I may feel a certain way

2684
02:25:27,351 --> 02:25:30,440
but I'm going to vote with my boss because he's my supervisor.

2685
02:25:30,440 --> 02:25:35,444
I don't -- I think that creates a situation.

2686
02:25:35,831 --> 02:25:39,910
If someone is going to go with their supervisor or manager

2687
02:25:39,910 --> 02:25:40,968
that they're going to go in there

2688
02:25:40,968 --> 02:25:43,820
that way and it's not a fair process.

2689
02:25:43,820 --> 02:25:45,128
That is a factor of consideration.

2690
02:25:45,128 --> 02:25:46,545
>> Thank you for bringing that up.

2691
02:25:46,545 --> 02:25:48,128
That is something that's been adjusted

2692
02:25:48,128 --> 02:25:49,815
for in the proposed admin rig that

2693
02:25:49,815 --> 02:25:51,767
will be advancing with this.

2694
02:25:51,767 --> 02:25:53,643
We didn't highlight it on there but we

2695
02:25:53,643 --> 02:25:57,440
have heard that feedback as well from the business community.

2696
02:25:57,440 --> 02:26:00,991
A perception out there that hey, maybe there's undue influence.

2697
02:26:00,991 --> 02:26:02,627
We have actually already written that

2698
02:26:02,627 --> 02:26:04,440
into the administrative regulation

2699
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:07,791
to preclude a direct report from serving with their supervisor

2700
02:26:07,791 --> 02:26:09,310
on a procurement committee.

2701
02:26:09,310 --> 02:26:11,831
That's something that will be coming forward in the fall.

2702
02:26:11,831 --> 02:26:16,631
>> I know we talked about thresholds larger $9 million.

2703
02:26:16,791 --> 02:26:21,151
Commissioner eBay had you guys do some additional research.

2704
02:26:21,151 --> 02:26:23,997
But I remember when I left here on the 17th,

2705
02:26:23,997 --> 02:26:27,602
you couldn't spend more than $1,500 on an a B card.

2706
02:26:27,602 --> 02:26:32,484
And then when I got the UCF it was $10,000 on a B card.

2707
02:26:32,484 --> 02:26:37,404
I mean -- while you've got the book open,

2708
02:26:37,404 --> 02:26:41,630
look at all those things as well because that may be something

2709
02:26:41,630 --> 02:26:44,663
that may be we're having (indiscernible).

2710
02:26:55,615 --> 02:26:57,573
>> Those thresholds are specifically prescribed

2711
02:26:57,573 --> 02:26:57,576
in the ordinance.

2712
02:26:57,576 --> 02:26:57,579
They're in policy.

2713
02:26:57,579 --> 02:26:57,587
A couple of years back we did take

2714
02:26:57,587 --> 02:26:57,595
a look at updating the formal solicitation threshold.

2715
02:26:57,595 --> 02:26:57,602
It was very low at the time.

2716
02:26:57,602 --> 02:27:00,127
It was 3000 and the board was willing to increase it up

2717
02:27:00,127 --> 02:27:02,360
to 150 zero zero.

2718
02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:04,384
Respectively with that we did look at those lower tiers

2719
02:27:04,384 --> 02:27:06,231
of when do you need quotes.

2720
02:27:06,231 --> 02:27:07,855
What is a single quote.

2721
02:27:07,855 --> 02:27:11,350
We are fairly refreshed on that and what the board did authorize

2722
02:27:11,350 --> 02:27:14,404
during the time was an automatic escalator to the former

2723
02:27:14,404 --> 02:27:17,911
solicitation threshold so every five years we look at the value

2724
02:27:17,911 --> 02:27:22,910
that the CPI has increased and we can adjust up to the nearest

2725
02:27:22,910 --> 02:27:22,591
10,000.

2726
02:27:22,591 --> 02:27:25,910
Five years ago or six years ago the board

2727
02:27:25,910 --> 02:27:28,484
authorized that board approval or the formal solicitation

2728
02:27:28,484 --> 02:27:29,631
threshold to change.

2729
02:27:29,631 --> 02:27:33,307
This past October was our first year doing that five years CPI

2730
02:27:33,307 --> 02:27:36,937
increase and we found that the value of that CPI over the five

2731
02:27:36,937 --> 02:27:38,937
years had increased $40,000.

2732
02:27:40,111 --> 02:27:44,911
Automatically as a result, we've increased our formal

2733
02:27:44,991 --> 02:27:48,843
solicitation threshold up to $190,000 to account for that.

2734
02:27:48,843 --> 02:27:50,551
Every five years we'll do the calculation

2735
02:27:50,551 --> 02:27:53,297
to make sure that we are in line in keeping with the CPI.

2736
02:27:53,297 --> 02:27:56,347
And then we'll have to take a look at the single transactions

2737
02:27:56,347 --> 02:27:59,471
and the quotes to make sure that our scale is appropriately

2738
02:27:59,471 --> 02:28:00,617
adjusted as well.

2739
02:28:00,617 --> 02:28:01,951
But thank you for that feedback.

2740
02:28:01,951 --> 02:28:03,951
I appreciate it.

2741
02:28:20,323 --> 02:28:20,990
>> My apologies.

2742
02:28:20,990 --> 02:28:20,992
Thank you.

2743
02:28:20,992 --> 02:28:20,995
No requested action.

2744
02:28:20,995 --> 02:28:21,200
But it does sound as though --

2745
02:28:21,200 --> 02:28:21,800
I'm sorry, Commissioner Cordero, go ahead.

2746
02:28:21,800 --> 02:28:21,550
>> Thank you.

2747
02:28:21,550 --> 02:28:24,759
Carry on I have another question because you

2748
02:28:24,759 --> 02:28:28,442
know when Commissioner Scott was talking it came to my mind

2749
02:28:28,442 --> 02:28:30,442
as well.

2750
02:28:31,710 --> 02:28:34,511
If the protests go on the small business,

2751
02:28:34,511 --> 02:28:37,655
like they don't have enough capital or whatever,

2752
02:28:37,655 --> 02:28:43,655
but they want to protest, they have the 1% or the 5000,

2753
02:28:44,631 --> 02:28:50,631
that money will be returned if they get the >> Correct.

2754
02:29:03,893 --> 02:29:05,310
If they are successful in protest.

2755
02:29:05,310 --> 02:29:05,319
If they protest and it's found to be upheld,

2756
02:29:05,319 --> 02:29:05,329
they will receive the full amount of the bond back.

2757
02:29:05,329 --> 02:29:06,614
>> What does that mean?

2758
02:29:06,614 --> 02:29:12,614
I mean, okay, they prevail in the protest or whatever,

2759
02:29:12,775 --> 02:29:16,564
what would be the process for them to go in?

2760
02:29:16,564 --> 02:29:18,404
>> We will maintain their bond on file.

2761
02:29:18,404 --> 02:29:20,941
In the event they're successful, we simply

2762
02:29:20,941 --> 02:29:23,697
return the bond to them.

2763
02:29:23,697 --> 02:29:25,784
>> But okay, if they prevail in the protest,

2764
02:29:25,784 --> 02:29:29,847
what is the process before you, for them to come back

2765
02:29:29,847 --> 02:29:37,470
into the >> It would depend on what the basis of the protest

2766
02:29:45,693 --> 02:29:46,193
was.

2767
02:29:46,193 --> 02:29:46,201
If they are found to have been upheld,

2768
02:29:46,201 --> 02:29:46,209
we would continue on with the procurement process

2769
02:29:46,209 --> 02:29:46,217
and give them the consideration they had asked.

2770
02:29:46,217 --> 02:29:46,611
Yes.

2771
02:29:46,611 --> 02:29:47,600
Yes.

2772
02:29:47,600 --> 02:29:47,506
Yes.

2773
02:29:47,506 --> 02:29:48,711
I apologize.

2774
02:29:48,711 --> 02:29:50,711
That's right.

2775
02:29:51,951 --> 02:29:57,351
>> Okay and then, option three, of the protest process,

2776
02:29:58,831 --> 02:30:03,735
we get into the option three, which is the replacement

2777
02:30:03,735 --> 02:30:07,935
and decision by procurement management and appeal.

2778
02:30:09,711 --> 02:30:12,111
Three members assigned to.

2779
02:30:12,551 --> 02:30:18,551
What if that goes into there and let's say (indiscernible).

2780
02:30:30,926 --> 02:30:32,634
Would that come here or whatever decision

2781
02:30:32,634 --> 02:30:32,640
is made in that option three?

2782
02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:32,651
>> In the final scenario, no, the protest committee would be

2783
02:30:32,651 --> 02:30:36,151
the final decision maker, as far as the county is concerned

2784
02:30:36,151 --> 02:30:39,661
if they feel like they are aggrieved and want to challenge

2785
02:30:39,661 --> 02:30:44,551
it further, then they would take it to court.

2786
02:30:44,551 --> 02:30:46,551
>> Thank you.

2787
02:30:52,511 --> 02:30:55,511
Court, right coming up BK?

2788
02:30:57,871 --> 02:30:59,499
>> The protest would not come to you.

2789
02:30:59,499 --> 02:31:00,874
But the award of the solicitation

2790
02:31:00,874 --> 02:31:05,674
would come to you for a decision, yes.

2791
02:31:19,751 --> 02:31:21,751
>> C, yeah,

2792
02:31:23,610 --> 02:31:25,527
>> I'll say I'm okay with it going to a judge.

2793
02:31:25,527 --> 02:31:27,694
In terms of the evaluation of the rubrics scorecard.

2794
02:31:27,694 --> 02:31:31,894
But if you have an additional --

2795
02:31:41,982 --> 02:31:42,884
>> (indiscernible).

2796
02:31:42,884 --> 02:31:42,894
>> If I can, we get to serve on this,

2797
02:31:42,894 --> 02:31:42,904
but we don't get to serve on the appeal process.

2798
02:31:42,904 --> 02:31:42,915
None of us would actually have the ability to know this.

2799
02:31:42,915 --> 02:31:44,195
And we have overturned and we have had things rebooted.

2800
02:31:44,195 --> 02:31:46,157
I'm not saying it would happen all the time,

2801
02:31:46,157 --> 02:31:49,700
but it worries me that having this board that

2802
02:31:49,700 --> 02:31:53,384
was elected by the public not being able to be in this process

2803
02:31:53,384 --> 02:31:56,170
at all, at least while I've been here,

2804
02:31:56,170 --> 02:32:02,617
there's been a couple of times where it's come to us.

2805
02:32:15,692 --> 02:32:17,670
>> We want your feedback on this.

2806
02:32:17,670 --> 02:32:17,760
It would be a change, option 2 or 3

2807
02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:17,860
would be a change to what our current process is.

2808
02:32:17,860 --> 02:32:17,970
In order to be able to bring this back to you

2809
02:32:17,970 --> 02:32:17,104
for consideration, it really would be helpful,

2810
02:32:17,104 --> 02:32:18,231
I think we've heard some detail about your consideration

2811
02:32:18,231 --> 02:32:19,697
of the protest bond.

2812
02:32:19,697 --> 02:32:21,792
It's really up to this board how you

2813
02:32:21,792 --> 02:32:24,151
would like to see this protest process advance forward

2814
02:32:24,151 --> 02:32:25,608
for the due process.

2815
02:32:25,608 --> 02:32:27,983
If you have a desire to look at an option

2816
02:32:27,983 --> 02:32:29,441
other than what we're recommending,

2817
02:32:29,441 --> 02:32:31,157
this is helpful information for us

2818
02:32:31,157 --> 02:32:33,537
to know so that we can craft the ordinance in such a way

2819
02:32:33,537 --> 02:32:35,937
that the board wants.

2820
02:32:50,580 --> 02:32:50,587
>> Kerry my last question, I promise.

2821
02:32:50,587 --> 02:32:50,591
It goes to court.

2822
02:32:50,591 --> 02:32:50,600
Court decided that, they prevail, so what they do,

2823
02:32:50,600 --> 02:32:50,609
they come back, you stop the process with others

2824
02:32:50,609 --> 02:32:52,317
and then they come back and include that.

2825
02:32:52,317 --> 02:32:55,917
So what do you do? (indiscernible).

2826
02:33:08,713 --> 02:33:10,338
>> We've never had anybody go to court.

2827
02:33:10,338 --> 02:33:10,345
The way the process works now, they

2828
02:33:10,345 --> 02:33:10,355
would normally try to make an appointment with you all

2829
02:33:10,355 --> 02:33:12,230
to have a meeting to talk about their appeal.

2830
02:33:12,230 --> 02:33:14,711
This actually, if we do option three or we do option two,

2831
02:33:14,711 --> 02:33:16,401
it would allow them an opportunity

2832
02:33:16,401 --> 02:33:20,607
to present their case and allow the county to present our case

2833
02:33:20,607 --> 02:33:23,230
and have someone make a decision.

2834
02:33:23,230 --> 02:33:27,701
With the current process, they can make a meeting

2835
02:33:27,701 --> 02:33:28,534
with a commissioner.

2836
02:33:28,534 --> 02:33:32,271
You all don't have to take those meetings and sometimes don't.

2837
02:33:32,271 --> 02:33:34,271
This would give them a process whereby

2838
02:33:34,271 --> 02:33:36,764
they can air their grievances in front of someone

2839
02:33:36,764 --> 02:33:41,750
and it will give them time to have an actual hearing.

2840
02:33:41,750 --> 02:33:43,475
To present their case.

2841
02:33:43,521 --> 02:33:45,484
It's absolutely up to you all how

2842
02:33:45,484 --> 02:33:47,118
you would prefer to handle it.

2843
02:33:47,118 --> 02:33:49,451
We wanted to give you these different options that we've

2844
02:33:49,451 --> 02:33:51,387
seen in other localities.

2845
02:33:51,387 --> 02:33:53,651
To see if you would like to keep going the way

2846
02:33:53,651 --> 02:33:56,651
you are or change it.

2847
02:33:56,831 --> 02:34:00,431
>> My question though is not (indiscernible).

2848
02:34:12,430 --> 02:34:14,763
My question is, is the process, the whole entire process

2849
02:34:14,763 --> 02:34:15,555
would have to stop?

2850
02:34:15,555 --> 02:34:17,955
Until that is completed.

2851
02:34:26,802 --> 02:34:27,552
>> We do that now.

2852
02:34:27,552 --> 02:34:27,558
>> Everyone has that option now.

2853
02:34:27,558 --> 02:34:27,562
>> That's not new.

2854
02:34:27,562 --> 02:34:27,567
>> Yeah, that's not new.

2855
02:34:27,567 --> 02:34:27,572
They've always had that option.

2856
02:34:27,572 --> 02:34:27,583
If anyone is unhappy by the final decision made by either

2857
02:34:27,583 --> 02:34:28,325
the procurement -- in this case, ull.

2858
02:34:28,325 --> 02:34:31,304
They can go to court and challenge that if they want to.

2859
02:34:31,304 --> 02:34:33,704
It has not happened.

2860
02:34:35,351 --> 02:34:39,277
>> Yeah, but they go to two court after the BCC approved.

2861
02:34:39,277 --> 02:34:39,777
>> Yes.

2862
02:34:39,777 --> 02:34:41,485
And you would still have the solicitation

2863
02:34:41,485 --> 02:34:42,931
come to you for approval.

2864
02:34:42,931 --> 02:34:46,531
If it's over the formal threshold.

2865
02:34:46,731 --> 02:34:48,839
That part would still occur.

2866
02:34:48,839 --> 02:34:52,417
If they wanted to challenge the decision of the committee,

2867
02:34:52,417 --> 02:34:53,917
then they would have to go to court.

2868
02:34:53,917 --> 02:34:56,950
Which they can do now, if they're

2869
02:34:56,950 --> 02:35:00,613
unhappy with the decision made by this body.

2870
02:35:00,613 --> 02:35:03,196
>> Commissioners, we have to get to a point where we're making

2871
02:35:03,196 --> 02:35:05,527
a recommendation to them of our options.

2872
02:35:05,527 --> 02:35:06,699
One 2 or 3.

2873
02:35:06,699 --> 02:35:09,563
We were, it sounded like we were in consensus.

2874
02:35:09,563 --> 02:35:11,671
It sounds like we're splitting.

2875
02:35:11,671 --> 02:35:13,351
Commissioner Wilson has tagged in.

2876
02:35:13,351 --> 02:35:14,871
Then Commissioner Uribe.

2877
02:35:14,871 --> 02:35:18,190
And then Byron I'm coming to you for -- okay.

2878
02:35:18,190 --> 02:35:20,941
Let me just close after that.

2879
02:35:20,941 --> 02:35:22,996
Commissioner Wilson, go ahead.

2880
02:35:22,996 --> 02:35:24,871
>> I just wanted to say I continue to support

2881
02:35:24,871 --> 02:35:25,704
the recommendations.

2882
02:35:25,704 --> 02:35:28,527
I believe an independent arbitrator at that stage

2883
02:35:28,527 --> 02:35:29,759
is critical.

2884
02:35:29,759 --> 02:35:32,111
At that level it's supposed to be

2885
02:35:32,111 --> 02:35:33,431
balls and strikes being called.

2886
02:35:33,431 --> 02:35:34,723
And those are factual findings.

2887
02:35:34,723 --> 02:35:37,847
For us to be in a position to be lobbied to,

2888
02:35:37,847 --> 02:35:39,631
I think complicates the situation.

2889
02:35:39,631 --> 02:35:43,295
Then the bandwidth for whoever has the best lobbying team

2890
02:35:43,295 --> 02:35:48,950
ends up being sort of a louder voice in the room.

2891
02:35:48,950 --> 02:35:52,895
I'm very comfortable at that stage, this recommendation.

2892
02:35:53,751 --> 02:35:56,291
>> Okay, I actually have a solution because I am not.

2893
02:35:56,291 --> 02:35:58,610
We represent people and we represent

2894
02:35:58,610 --> 02:36:00,871
business owners and that's part of our job being here.

2895
02:36:00,871 --> 02:36:04,592
Some of us in society are involved in the RFP.

2896
02:36:04,592 --> 02:36:05,655
Not all of us are.

2897
02:36:05,655 --> 02:36:06,905
And that's just the way it is.

2898
02:36:06,905 --> 02:36:08,780
But I would actually like to offer a solution

2899
02:36:08,780 --> 02:36:12,207
that I get very nervous when staff's in charge of everything.

2900
02:36:12,207 --> 02:36:15,531
And the people who were elected here to represent everyone out

2901
02:36:15,531 --> 02:36:18,504
there has no footprint on this.

2902
02:36:18,504 --> 02:36:22,547
I can't control which electives come and actually serve.

2903
02:36:22,547 --> 02:36:24,228
I know where I have been.

2904
02:36:24,228 --> 02:36:27,328
Can we find a way that when you are --

2905
02:36:27,328 --> 02:36:30,731
and to me adding more staff members is just confirming us

2906
02:36:30,731 --> 02:36:31,965
not being involved.

2907
02:36:31,965 --> 02:36:34,415
Could there be an option that the commissioner --

2908
02:36:34,415 --> 02:36:37,790
because when I disagreed with one of the decisions,

2909
02:36:37,790 --> 02:36:40,931
when it came back, I wasn't even on it to actually make that

2910
02:36:40,931 --> 02:36:43,371
influence, which is the one I was assigned to.

2911
02:36:43,371 --> 02:36:45,834
Is it possible to put a threshold in there

2912
02:36:45,834 --> 02:36:49,271
that the commissioner that was actually in that application

2913
02:36:49,271 --> 02:36:52,332
have the opportunity to be one of those additional three staff

2914
02:36:52,332 --> 02:36:52,913
members?

2915
02:36:52,913 --> 02:36:56,513
So there is that open transparent

2916
02:36:56,537 --> 02:36:59,537
and I, from elected officials.

2917
02:37:00,310 --> 02:37:01,615
I'm good with option three.

2918
02:37:01,615 --> 02:37:04,347
I would just instead of three staff members, two staff members

2919
02:37:04,347 --> 02:37:06,140
and the commissioner that actually would

2920
02:37:06,140 --> 02:37:07,994
have been assigned to the case.

2921
02:37:07,994 --> 02:37:09,536
>> One thing I'll offer Commissioner,

2922
02:37:09,536 --> 02:37:14,425
is we are talking about RFP and RFP is.

2923
02:37:14,425 --> 02:37:16,550
This would be one process for any solicitation type

2924
02:37:16,550 --> 02:37:18,425
and there is no commissioner assigned when it

2925
02:37:18,425 --> 02:37:21,425
comes to invitation for bids.

2926
02:37:35,176 --> 02:37:36,176
>> So let's look at RFP.

2927
02:37:36,176 --> 02:37:36,183
Can we define that as RFP as.

2928
02:37:36,183 --> 02:37:36,194
We are good enough to be on there when it's Bidded

2929
02:37:36,194 --> 02:37:36,206
but we're not good enough to be on there when it's protested.

2930
02:37:36,206 --> 02:37:36,211
It's a concern to me.

2931
02:37:36,211 --> 02:37:37,567
This is an elected body.

2932
02:37:37,567 --> 02:37:40,151
To be transparent with the public.

2933
02:37:40,151 --> 02:37:44,951
Staff controlling everything, not undermining what you do,

2934
02:37:45,431 --> 02:37:48,201
but this division and almost like what Commissioner

2935
02:37:48,201 --> 02:37:50,935
Scott kind of said, my boss is on there,

2936
02:37:50,935 --> 02:37:54,999
my colleagues on there, do we really stand up for the company

2937
02:37:54,999 --> 02:37:56,999
that we grow?

2938
02:37:57,423 --> 02:38:00,510
It allows at least some decency without it having

2939
02:38:00,510 --> 02:38:03,151
to come back before the BCC.

2940
02:38:03,151 --> 02:38:06,764
>> What I would note though is, the board under that option

2941
02:38:06,764 --> 02:38:09,151
would have to make the commitment that they would

2942
02:38:09,151 --> 02:38:11,151
actually participate.

2943
02:38:11,724 --> 02:38:15,324
>> You can't make them participate anyways.

2944
02:38:28,390 --> 02:38:30,223
>> I'm saying it's part of the process here.

2945
02:38:30,223 --> 02:38:30,228
>> What's wrong with that?

2946
02:38:30,228 --> 02:38:30,233
I felt it was wrong.

2947
02:38:30,233 --> 02:38:30,235
Excuse me.

2948
02:38:30,235 --> 02:38:30,237
Excuse me.

2949
02:38:30,237 --> 02:38:30,239
Let me.

2950
02:38:30,239 --> 02:38:30,250
When that one, when I agreed that it was not fair,

2951
02:38:30,250 --> 02:38:30,943
when I came back and it was protested,

2952
02:38:30,943 --> 02:38:31,988
I didn't get to be on it.

2953
02:38:31,988 --> 02:38:34,363
Which I was the one that actually got all the information

2954
02:38:34,363 --> 02:38:37,401
and knew what was out there and why it was being protested.

2955
02:38:37,401 --> 02:38:41,100
That's a big concern to me.

2956
02:38:41,131 --> 02:38:44,970
I mean we're elected to present the people.

2957
02:38:44,970 --> 02:38:46,230
When you put this all on staff, now you're

2958
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:48,231
having staff be in control of everything.

2959
02:38:48,231 --> 02:38:50,377
And not giving that option to the person who would

2960
02:38:50,377 --> 02:38:53,448
have been part of that decision in the first place.

2961
02:38:53,448 --> 02:38:59,448
To not be able to actually influence us at all.

2962
02:39:12,362 --> 02:39:14,487
>> The board considers that it is important as part

2963
02:39:14,487 --> 02:39:14,495
of the protest process that there is representation.

2964
02:39:14,495 --> 02:39:14,502
That was also one of those feedback

2965
02:39:14,502 --> 02:39:14,509
that we recognize that for the protest

2966
02:39:14,509 --> 02:39:16,551
that there was a desire to ensure that there was

2967
02:39:16,551 --> 02:39:21,460
full attendance in those protest hearings and the protest

2968
02:39:21,460 --> 02:39:21,546
process.

2969
02:39:21,546 --> 02:39:24,551
As well as we hate to be in a situation

2970
02:39:24,551 --> 02:39:26,423
where there are only two people because then

2971
02:39:26,423 --> 02:39:29,901
it would be a 1 to 1 tie.

2972
02:39:29,901 --> 02:39:32,301
I understand that --

2973
02:39:49,510 --> 02:39:49,519
>> I have a suggestion that might be helpful.

2974
02:39:49,519 --> 02:39:49,524
We could add another layer.

2975
02:39:49,524 --> 02:39:49,534
We could do -- they go to the procurement manager,

2976
02:39:49,534 --> 02:39:49,539
they're unhappy with the decision,

2977
02:39:49,539 --> 02:39:49,545
they go to this protest committee.

2978
02:39:49,545 --> 02:39:49,551
If they're unhappy with that decision,

2979
02:39:49,551 --> 02:39:49,711
then they come to the board.

2980
02:39:49,711 --> 02:39:51,567
It's a lengthier process.

2981
02:39:51,567 --> 02:39:55,279
And I doubt many would take advantage of it because usually,

2982
02:39:55,279 --> 02:39:59,897
we really have people who actually take the appeal

2983
02:39:59,897 --> 02:40:01,151
that we currently have now.

2984
02:40:01,151 --> 02:40:03,839
But that would be an option that could satisfy you,

2985
02:40:03,839 --> 02:40:06,411
if that's something you all wanted us to write in their.

2986
02:40:06,411 --> 02:40:08,710
We can absolutely do that.

2987
02:40:08,710 --> 02:40:09,924
It's up to you.

2988
02:40:09,924 --> 02:40:12,711
>> I just think there has to be a level of transparency.

2989
02:40:12,711 --> 02:40:13,714
>> That's fine.

2990
02:40:13,714 --> 02:40:16,339
>> And there have been a couple of things over the years that I

2991
02:40:16,339 --> 02:40:17,710
have questioned.

2992
02:40:17,710 --> 02:40:17,583
Not you.

2993
02:40:17,583 --> 02:40:19,831
The people involved making the decision.

2994
02:40:19,831 --> 02:40:21,751
>> Absolutely.

2995
02:40:21,751 --> 02:40:23,371
>> Especially Commissioner Scott,

2996
02:40:23,371 --> 02:40:27,331
when you had the boss and you had the person who worked

2997
02:40:27,331 --> 02:40:30,511
for the boss on the board, and on the committee,

2998
02:40:30,511 --> 02:40:32,511
making that decision.

2999
02:40:33,151 --> 02:40:35,279
That's where I'm worried.

3000
02:40:35,279 --> 02:40:36,464
That's a concern.

3001
02:40:36,464 --> 02:40:39,479
I don't know how you all feel.

3002
02:40:39,479 --> 02:40:42,210
>> Commissioner what I'm hearing now is a hybrid option where

3003
02:40:42,210 --> 02:40:44,511
we're looking at basically number three.

3004
02:40:44,511 --> 02:40:47,151
But we're adding an additional layer

3005
02:40:47,151 --> 02:40:51,171
where it would say replace the current process with decision

3006
02:40:51,171 --> 02:40:52,471
by procurement manager.

3007
02:40:52,471 --> 02:40:55,195
Appeal with the protest committee comprised of three

3008
02:40:55,195 --> 02:40:59,395
staff members appointed by the county administrator..

3009
02:41:00,111 --> 02:41:02,937
Then appeal to the hearing to the BCC or something.

3010
02:41:02,937 --> 02:41:06,391
Is that what you're proposing as a hybrid?

3011
02:41:06,391 --> 02:41:07,611
>> It's absolutely up to you.

3012
02:41:07,611 --> 02:41:10,611
That was just a suggestion.

3013
02:41:23,790 --> 02:41:26,820
>> To clarify, what you're actually saying is this plus

3014
02:41:26,820 --> 02:41:26,860
come to the BCC.

3015
02:41:26,860 --> 02:41:26,920
So you're worried about the votes?

3016
02:41:26,920 --> 02:41:26,980
We're worried about that odd number.

3017
02:41:26,980 --> 02:41:28,515
I know Byron said, will that commissioner actually attend?

3018
02:41:28,515 --> 02:41:30,915
Wasn't that the concern?

3019
02:41:30,967 --> 02:41:32,967
Was how --

3020
02:41:50,585 --> 02:41:51,571
>> (indiscernible).

3021
02:41:51,571 --> 02:41:51,585
>> You say due process N1 but then you throw it out we were

3022
02:41:51,585 --> 02:41:51,593
part of the decision in the first place,

3023
02:41:51,593 --> 02:41:51,601
but then we're not part of the appeal.

3024
02:41:51,601 --> 02:41:51,606
That is not due process.

3025
02:41:51,606 --> 02:41:54,273
>> I will say it's very unusual in a proceeding where someone is

3026
02:41:54,273 --> 02:41:57,396
appealing a decision to have the person who originally made

3027
02:41:57,396 --> 02:41:59,796
the decision involved in the appeal.

3028
02:41:59,796 --> 02:42:04,870
In fact I can tell you in the past agencies I've worked for,

3029
02:42:04,870 --> 02:42:06,911
I have actually advocated for board members

3030
02:42:06,911 --> 02:42:09,667
not to serve on procurements for that very reason period

3031
02:42:09,667 --> 02:42:12,377
so they ultimately don't have to decide

3032
02:42:12,377 --> 02:42:15,711
on an appeal of a decision they made originally.

3033
02:42:15,711 --> 02:42:24,111
I mean if you think about it -- we're trying to get away from

3034
02:42:34,664 --> 02:42:35,164
that.

3035
02:42:35,164 --> 02:42:35,174
As an attorney, I will tell you any court process,

3036
02:42:35,174 --> 02:42:35,184
a normal process in court, you appear before a judge.

3037
02:42:35,184 --> 02:42:35,192
If you are unhappy with that judge's decision,

3038
02:42:35,192 --> 02:42:35,200
you don't go back to that same judge.

3039
02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:36,242
Generally you go to an appeals court

3040
02:42:36,242 --> 02:42:38,221
and that appeals court will make a decision

3041
02:42:38,221 --> 02:42:40,511
on whether they thought that judge made

3042
02:42:40,511 --> 02:42:42,521
an appropriate decision or not.

3043
02:42:42,521 --> 02:42:45,630
Sometimes they send you back but it's back with instructions,

3044
02:42:45,630 --> 02:42:48,630
not to do it differently.

3045
02:42:49,671 --> 02:42:52,311
It is unusual to have a process whereby

3046
02:42:52,311 --> 02:42:55,471
you make the initial decision and you decide the appeal.

3047
02:42:55,471 --> 02:42:57,791
That is one of the reasons why we want to take it out

3048
02:42:57,791 --> 02:42:59,991
of the hands of the procurement committee

3049
02:42:59,991 --> 02:43:03,103
and we suggested this appeal committee.

3050
02:43:03,103 --> 02:43:05,503
Because it is odd.

3051
02:43:06,651 --> 02:43:09,511
And people have expressed concerns over that process.

3052
02:43:09,511 --> 02:43:13,311
Whereby you appear before the procurement committee who

3053
02:43:13,311 --> 02:43:15,510
scores your submittal and then when

3054
02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:17,471
you are unhappy with the way you scored your submittal

3055
02:43:17,471 --> 02:43:20,317
you go back to them and ask them to do it again.

3056
02:43:20,317 --> 02:43:25,231
It's -- that's unusual in terms of the type of initial decision

3057
02:43:25,231 --> 02:43:27,151
and appeal.

3058
02:43:27,151 --> 02:43:28,156
>> That might help.

3059
02:43:28,156 --> 02:43:30,277
Now if you get to ask a commissioner

3060
02:43:30,277 --> 02:43:33,409
to be there, so no longer is it the one,

3061
02:43:33,409 --> 02:43:35,977
you're offering to ask a commissioner to step in

3062
02:43:35,977 --> 02:43:38,360
on the appeal process.

3063
02:43:38,360 --> 02:43:40,196
We're going to have eight of us.

3064
02:43:40,196 --> 02:43:43,751
You have a better odd than a commissioner will actually

3065
02:43:43,751 --> 02:43:45,497
be present then is not.

3066
02:43:45,497 --> 02:43:51,184
If you believe that, because three staff members is --

3067
02:43:51,184 --> 02:43:55,431
I've sat in some, I don't want to bring it up right now,

3068
02:43:55,431 --> 02:43:57,439
they're very uncomfortable that we're approved.

3069
02:43:57,439 --> 02:44:00,183
And I have been boisterous about this.

3070
02:44:00,183 --> 02:44:04,871
This to me is leaving a layer of transparency closed off.

3071
02:44:04,871 --> 02:44:08,231
Having a commissioner as opposed to the commissioner,

3072
02:44:08,231 --> 02:44:10,551
I'd be open to that, considering what you're saying

3073
02:44:10,551 --> 02:44:12,735
is you're already part of the process,

3074
02:44:12,735 --> 02:44:15,299
this is what you agreed on, are you

3075
02:44:15,299 --> 02:44:19,499
going to be trying to be influenced?

3076
02:44:19,591 --> 02:44:20,311
>>, I disagree.

3077
02:44:20,311 --> 02:44:22,871
I think the lobbying difference with the Board of County

3078
02:44:22,871 --> 02:44:24,711
Commission or any elected is very

3079
02:44:24,711 --> 02:44:27,111
different than an independent judiciary.

3080
02:44:27,111 --> 02:44:30,111
And I think there's --

3081
02:44:48,302 --> 02:44:48,312
>> I'm saying instead of having three staff members offer

3082
02:44:48,312 --> 02:44:48,317
a commissioner to be there.

3083
02:44:48,317 --> 02:44:48,320
That's the transparency.

3084
02:44:48,320 --> 02:44:48,330
That's where we get to look out for the businesses.

3085
02:44:48,330 --> 02:44:48,511
>> I mean I don't vote there.

3086
02:44:48,511 --> 02:44:49,471
I vote here.

3087
02:44:49,471 --> 02:44:51,375
I'm in the process of.

3088
02:44:51,375 --> 02:44:56,175
But really, why are we going to --

3089
02:45:11,927 --> 02:45:11,935
>> Can I propose, just one, you guys,

3090
02:45:11,935 --> 02:45:11,941
unless it's like a contentious protest,

3091
02:45:11,941 --> 02:45:11,949
generally we'll move it forward without a briefing.

3092
02:45:11,949 --> 02:45:11,955
Or you'll give us a briefing.

3093
02:45:11,955 --> 02:45:11,963
I would ask, in this process, and I

3094
02:45:11,963 --> 02:45:13,838
think this might get what you're looking for,

3095
02:45:13,838 --> 02:45:18,583
Commissioner, I hope, give them the option, if that makes sense.

3096
02:45:18,583 --> 02:45:21,451
They could have like the two step process.

3097
02:45:21,451 --> 02:45:26,851
Where there's one process to proper to the contractor.

3098
02:45:27,199 --> 02:45:30,147
Hey, you can go through this process

3099
02:45:30,147 --> 02:45:32,759
or you can go through this process with the commissioners.

3100
02:45:32,759 --> 02:45:36,131
If I choose a particular process,

3101
02:45:36,131 --> 02:45:39,131
I'm good with the outcome.

3102
02:45:41,710 --> 02:45:43,364
>> It's like an opt out clause.

3103
02:45:43,364 --> 02:45:46,537
>> And then they choose how they want to protest.

3104
02:45:46,537 --> 02:45:49,453
Hey, I want to go through staff.

3105
02:45:49,453 --> 02:45:52,560
So keep the option three but add an additional process

3106
02:45:52,560 --> 02:45:54,140
that allow them to go through the commissioners

3107
02:45:54,140 --> 02:45:54,951
if they decide.

3108
02:45:54,951 --> 02:45:57,351
But also it's binding.

3109
02:45:59,310 --> 02:46:01,431
But the commissioner, (indiscernible).

3110
02:46:08,363 --> 02:46:13,763
It would be maybe that Commissioner in the staff.

3111
02:46:17,677 --> 02:46:19,940
Could we offer them two processes?

3112
02:46:19,940 --> 02:46:21,494
And let them decide?

3113
02:46:32,740 --> 02:46:35,198
>> Oh I can offer commissioners is the feedback we got from

3114
02:46:35,198 --> 02:46:35,201
the business community.

3115
02:46:35,201 --> 02:46:35,205
They want one process.

3116
02:46:35,205 --> 02:46:35,215
It created confusion with some of their legal counsel quite

3117
02:46:35,215 --> 02:46:35,224
frankly to understand which process they needed to navigate.

3118
02:46:35,224 --> 02:46:36,641
It's been confusing for attorneys.

3119
02:46:36,641 --> 02:46:38,551
We were desiring and based on the feedback

3120
02:46:38,551 --> 02:46:40,823
from businesses to have a single protest process that

3121
02:46:40,823 --> 02:46:42,431
would apply to all.

3122
02:46:42,431 --> 02:46:49,310
Rather than you can choose paths or this applies to that.

3123
02:47:02,817 --> 02:47:03,734
>> Let's be realistic.

3124
02:47:03,734 --> 02:47:03,743
They're going to choose to come to the board.

3125
02:47:03,743 --> 02:47:03,746
For different reasons.

3126
02:47:03,746 --> 02:47:03,752
Offering that, really as an option

3127
02:47:03,752 --> 02:47:06,460
because I think they come to the board or go through the protest.

3128
02:47:06,460 --> 02:47:11,860
It really needs to be one or the other.

3129
02:47:22,820 --> 02:47:24,987
>> That's how we found out the red light camera one.

3130
02:47:24,987 --> 02:47:24,994
Because I had -- the rules changed.

3131
02:47:24,994 --> 02:47:24,998
The whole application changed.

3132
02:47:24,998 --> 02:47:25,700
When you took the minority and women out of

3133
02:47:25,700 --> 02:47:25,805
it and it completely went different.

3134
02:47:25,805 --> 02:47:27,430
And then when it actually got appealed,

3135
02:47:27,430 --> 02:47:30,430
it went completely different again.

3136
02:47:47,719 --> 02:47:49,427
>> The board already has that discretion.

3137
02:47:49,427 --> 02:47:49,871
The county has that discretion to cancel any RFP process.

3138
02:47:49,871 --> 02:47:52,303
It was just a matter in that particular case of how

3139
02:47:52,303 --> 02:47:54,310
you were bringing that forward.

3140
02:47:54,310 --> 02:47:58,271
Because of the law and the way it was written at that point.

3141
02:47:58,271 --> 02:48:02,324
That we would just not count that category.

3142
02:48:02,324 --> 02:48:07,391
It was a matter that has to do with the language

3143
02:48:07,391 --> 02:48:09,311
or anything of that nature.

3144
02:48:09,311 --> 02:48:13,655
That was a discretionary matter in this case.

3145
02:48:13,655 --> 02:48:17,335
More than an appeal process the board made.

3146
02:48:17,335 --> 02:48:20,837
The choice to exercise your option to always cancel an RFP

3147
02:48:20,837 --> 02:48:22,400
and start over.

3148
02:48:22,400 --> 02:48:24,400
Slightly different.

3149
02:48:25,791 --> 02:48:29,891
>> Without being able to adjust the application.

3150
02:48:29,891 --> 02:48:37,691
So when you apply with a certain rules and those rules change, --

3151
02:48:52,690 --> 02:48:53,190
the protest.

3152
02:48:53,190 --> 02:48:53,199
That's really what I was trying to get to.

3153
02:48:53,199 --> 02:48:53,209
>> We do have one other suggestion that may alleviate

3154
02:48:53,209 --> 02:48:53,211
your concern.

3155
02:48:53,211 --> 02:48:53,220
If you were to go with option three, where

3156
02:48:53,220 --> 02:48:55,845
it went to an appeals committee that was made up of three staff

3157
02:48:55,845 --> 02:48:58,981
members, we could make sure that a report or some sort

3158
02:48:58,981 --> 02:49:02,459
of communication was issued to all of you

3159
02:49:02,459 --> 02:49:06,311
so that you're aware that this particular procurement went

3160
02:49:06,311 --> 02:49:07,367
through this process.

3161
02:49:07,367 --> 02:49:09,854
When it comes to you for approval,

3162
02:49:09,854 --> 02:49:12,535
you would already know this person has protested.

3163
02:49:12,535 --> 02:49:16,631
It was decided this way by both the procurement manager

3164
02:49:16,631 --> 02:49:18,724
and this appeals committee.

3165
02:49:18,724 --> 02:49:21,341
And then you could take that into account

3166
02:49:21,341 --> 02:49:24,887
when the solicitation comes before you.

3167
02:49:24,887 --> 02:49:26,887
Would that work?

3168
02:49:28,271 --> 02:49:29,771
>> But for all of them.

3169
02:49:29,771 --> 02:49:30,821
>> We do that generally.

3170
02:49:30,821 --> 02:49:33,113
If there's a procurement that's advancing to the board.

3171
02:49:33,113 --> 02:49:35,663
We always identify if a protest was filed.

3172
02:49:35,663 --> 02:49:37,411
How it was resolved.

3173
02:49:37,411 --> 02:49:41,653
We would go into greater detail, obviously, if there was --

3174
02:49:41,653 --> 02:49:43,452
to give you that detail.

3175
02:49:43,452 --> 02:49:48,252
But they are included in the agenda items.

3176
02:50:01,543 --> 02:50:03,418
>> Sometimes we get ambushed in the meetings.

3177
02:50:03,418 --> 02:50:03,429
And that way just have a procurement report from you all.

3178
02:50:03,429 --> 02:50:03,441
>> So just like we do the monthly report of the contract

3179
02:50:03,441 --> 02:50:03,451
reports, we could create a monthly report of the protest

3180
02:50:03,451 --> 02:50:03,518
essentially, and the resolution thereof.

3181
02:50:03,518 --> 02:50:05,951
That's easy enough to do that.

3182
02:50:05,951 --> 02:50:07,271
>> That sounds like a winner.

3183
02:50:07,271 --> 02:50:09,671
So you have consensus.

3184
02:50:09,991 --> 02:50:11,911
>> So do you need to adjust that report?

3185
02:50:11,911 --> 02:50:17,311
We just want to make sure it's due process.

3186
02:50:17,951 --> 02:50:19,951
>> That's fine.

3187
02:50:20,591 --> 02:50:23,591
>> So with an ordinance --

3188
02:50:41,569 --> 02:50:43,777
>> We're going to do all of these things to make sure

3189
02:50:43,777 --> 02:50:43,779
you're comfortable.

3190
02:50:43,779 --> 02:50:43,790
>> I mean, this is a general overview of the changes.

3191
02:50:43,790 --> 02:50:43,798
There will be some other changes within there.

3192
02:50:43,798 --> 02:50:43,803
But they're mostly administrative Eric

3193
02:50:43,803 --> 02:50:43,810
you'll see the ordinance, our proposed changes

3194
02:50:43,810 --> 02:50:45,393
prior to coming to you for a decision.

3195
02:50:45,393 --> 02:50:47,690
And we will be bringing it back for a public hearing.

3196
02:50:47,690 --> 02:50:49,911
We will do another presentation.

3197
02:50:49,911 --> 02:50:53,191
All of that before you actually decide.

3198
02:50:53,191 --> 02:50:55,191
>> Thank you.

3199
02:50:55,671 --> 02:51:00,591
Now we'll bring up Kelly Noel, chief engineer public works,

3200
02:51:00,591 --> 02:51:02,395
fiscal and operational support Division,

3201
02:51:02,395 --> 02:51:05,604
to present an update on the accelerated Transportation

3202
02:51:05,604 --> 02:51:07,211
Safety Program.

3203
02:51:07,211 --> 02:51:07,711
AtSb.

3204
02:51:07,711 --> 02:51:11,511
We have no request to board action on this item.

3205
02:51:11,511 --> 02:51:13,511
Thank you.

3206
02:51:46,714 --> 02:51:47,381
>> Good morning.

3207
02:51:47,381 --> 02:51:47,384
It's still morning.

3208
02:51:47,384 --> 02:51:47,387
So good morning.

3209
02:51:47,387 --> 02:51:47,389
Vice mayor.

3210
02:51:47,389 --> 02:51:47,390
Commissioners.

3211
02:51:47,390 --> 02:51:47,392
Comptroller diamonds.

3212
02:51:47,392 --> 02:51:47,394
Administrator books.

3213
02:51:47,394 --> 02:51:47,404
I'm here to talk to you about the accelerated Transportation

3214
02:51:47,404 --> 02:51:47,406
safety program.

3215
02:51:47,406 --> 02:51:48,989
This is a five year program addressing

3216
02:51:48,989 --> 02:51:51,840
critical transportation infrastructure needs.

3217
02:51:51,840 --> 02:51:53,484
The program began in 2023.

3218
02:51:54,297 --> 02:51:57,204
It's a five year program and it's reaching

3219
02:51:57,204 --> 02:51:58,884
a midway point in the program.

3220
02:51:58,884 --> 02:52:02,431
We'd like to give you an update on how we got here.

3221
02:52:02,431 --> 02:52:07,190
The programs we had in place prior to this AtSb

3222
02:52:07,190 --> 02:52:10,861
as well as tell you a little bit of the achievements

3223
02:52:10,861 --> 02:52:13,607
we've been able to accomplish.

3224
02:52:13,607 --> 02:52:15,821
Our progress to date.

3225
02:52:15,821 --> 02:52:18,156
And other advancements in the field and give you

3226
02:52:18,156 --> 02:52:22,291
a summary, an idea of what to expect in the second half

3227
02:52:22,291 --> 02:52:23,170
of this program.

3228
02:52:23,170 --> 02:52:25,210
A little bit of background.

3229
02:52:25,210 --> 02:52:28,210
We developed a comprehensive plan

3230
02:52:28,651 --> 02:52:32,359
to support the transportation sales tax initiative.

3231
02:52:32,359 --> 02:52:34,359
Back in 2022.

3232
02:52:35,743 --> 02:52:39,631
In that plan there were major infrastructure improvements

3233
02:52:39,631 --> 02:52:42,631
such as roadway and transit improvements proposed,

3234
02:52:42,631 --> 02:52:45,711
as well as minor but still critical

3235
02:52:45,711 --> 02:52:49,551
sidewalk, roadway, lighting, and other safety improvements.

3236
02:52:49,551 --> 02:52:52,310
That was the origins of AtSb.

3237
02:52:52,310 --> 02:52:58,241
And although the voters did not approve that sales tax ballot

3238
02:52:58,241 --> 02:53:01,841
measure, the critical item still remain.

3239
02:53:01,871 --> 02:53:06,710
So staff developed a plan to address

3240
02:53:06,191 --> 02:53:09,751
these critical infrastructure improvements with a short term

3241
02:53:09,751 --> 02:53:11,341
implementation in mind.

3242
02:53:11,341 --> 02:53:13,631
As well as Vision Zero safety concerns.

3243
02:53:13,631 --> 02:53:17,810
This would utilize existing revenue sources.

3244
02:53:17,810 --> 02:53:23,681
Such as existing -- coming from state sales tax and leverage

3245
02:53:24,310 --> 02:53:27,735
from projected increases in gas taxes over the following five

3246
02:53:27,735 --> 02:53:28,239
years.

3247
02:53:28,239 --> 02:53:32,215
Here's a timeline of the AtSb development

3248
02:53:32,215 --> 02:53:35,776
period in May of 2023, briefings occurred

3249
02:53:35,776 --> 02:53:37,996
where we solicited input on lighting,

3250
02:53:37,996 --> 02:53:41,854
sidewalk, safety improvements, as well as transit improvements.

3251
02:53:41,854 --> 02:53:43,377
The following month in June there

3252
02:53:43,377 --> 02:53:46,551
was a work session held in which the program

3253
02:53:46,551 --> 02:53:48,761
framework and the project lists were presented

3254
02:53:48,761 --> 02:53:53,663
to the commissioners and a key point of this program

3255
02:53:53,663 --> 02:53:57,631
was to frontload some of the simpler less complex projects

3256
02:53:57,631 --> 02:53:58,671
early on.

3257
02:53:58,671 --> 02:54:02,871
So the more complex projects could actually

3258
02:54:04,390 --> 02:54:07,331
kick off at the beginning of the project, the program,

3259
02:54:07,331 --> 02:54:10,511
and then carry through at the midpoint of the program.

3260
02:54:10,511 --> 02:54:13,511
In the following months, the program

3261
02:54:13,511 --> 02:54:19,116
was approved as part of the fiscal year 23, 24 CIP budget.

3262
02:54:19,116 --> 02:54:23,316
And on October 1st, 2023, the Accelerated Transportation

3263
02:54:24,710 --> 02:54:26,400
Safety Program officially began.

3264
02:54:26,400 --> 02:54:30,903
For all of you, the accelerated Transportation Safety Program

3265
02:54:30,903 --> 02:54:35,670
is the 100 year, $100 million five year program. $55 million

3266
02:54:35,670 --> 02:54:38,651
go into the county for sidewalks, roadway lighting,

3267
02:54:38,651 --> 02:54:41,510
and safety improvements. $45 million

3268
02:54:41,710 --> 02:54:45,183
going to transit and links for increased operational frequency

3269
02:54:45,183 --> 02:54:48,341
as well as capital project bus shelters.

3270
02:54:48,341 --> 02:54:54,341
I actually have Mr. James Boyle and Tiffany Homer Hawkins

3271
02:54:54,775 --> 02:54:59,751
here with links today who, Mr. James Boyle will be presenting

3272
02:54:59,751 --> 02:55:01,735
on the transit slides.

3273
02:55:01,735 --> 02:55:05,581
These are the slides and this is what was presented back in 2023.

3274
02:55:05,581 --> 02:55:08,479
The sidewalk lighting and safety projects.

3275
02:55:08,479 --> 02:55:12,110
As a result of those discussions with the commissioners

3276
02:55:12,110 --> 02:55:17,400
prior to approval and these are the transit projects

3277
02:55:17,400 --> 02:55:19,844
and improvements we are also discussing

3278
02:55:19,844 --> 02:55:22,975
with the commissioners at the time.

3279
02:55:22,975 --> 02:55:26,575
In talking about a TSP framework,

3280
02:55:26,631 --> 02:55:29,790
we had several programs in place.

3281
02:55:29,790 --> 02:55:31,790
Prior to TSP.

3282
02:55:31,263 --> 02:55:34,863
That included the CIP sidewalk program.

3283
02:55:34,991 --> 02:55:39,351
The CIP lighting program and also one that's

3284
02:55:39,351 --> 02:55:42,741
more recent investment of the zero safety programs.

3285
02:55:42,741 --> 02:55:45,133
These programs I'll talk about initially

3286
02:55:45,133 --> 02:55:48,884
so we can see how it teed up the TSP framework.

3287
02:55:48,884 --> 02:55:52,790
As well as emphasize how the TSP was

3288
02:55:52,790 --> 02:55:54,479
able to supplement that investment.

3289
02:55:54,479 --> 02:55:57,741
So that we could make bigger progress

3290
02:55:57,741 --> 02:56:00,141
toward completing our goals.

3291
02:56:00,151 --> 02:56:01,511
First sidewalks.

3292
02:56:01,511 --> 02:56:05,111
Sidewalks are a proven safety countermeasure

3293
02:56:05,153 --> 02:56:07,111
according to the Federal Highway Administration

3294
02:56:07,111 --> 02:56:13,630
we can expect up to an 89% reduction in pedestrian crashes.

3295
02:56:13,630 --> 02:56:16,111
As a result of providing sidewalks

3296
02:56:16,111 --> 02:56:17,911
on both sides of the road.

3297
02:56:17,911 --> 02:56:22,711
Also, additionally, the county maintains the Ada transition

3298
02:56:24,787 --> 02:56:25,287
plan.

3299
02:56:25,287 --> 02:56:27,631
In which we actually upgrade and improve

3300
02:56:27,631 --> 02:56:30,891
accessibility on all our county facilities.

3301
02:56:30,891 --> 02:56:35,479
Beginning in the 1990s, the CIP sidewalk program,

3302
02:56:35,479 --> 02:56:41,311
came about as a result of sidewalk connectivity and school

3303
02:56:41,311 --> 02:56:42,391
walkability concerns.

3304
02:56:42,391 --> 02:56:44,687
And although there have been varying levels of budget

3305
02:56:44,687 --> 02:56:47,231
to support the sidewalk construction,

3306
02:56:47,231 --> 02:56:50,739
the current budget is set at $3.3 million annually.

3307
02:56:50,739 --> 02:56:53,366
Producing seven miles of sidewalk.

3308
02:56:53,366 --> 02:56:56,591
The remaining needs as determined before AtSb

3309
02:56:56,591 --> 02:56:59,375
was over 170 miles of sidewalk gaps

3310
02:56:59,375 --> 02:57:03,207
and that would take, at this current funding level, 20 years

3311
02:57:03,207 --> 02:57:05,711
to complete that existing program.

3312
02:57:05,711 --> 02:57:07,423
Enter TSP.

3313
02:57:07,423 --> 02:57:10,423
With an investment of $25 million

3314
02:57:10,964 --> 02:57:13,973
to produce 22 miles of sidewalk, this

3315
02:57:13,973 --> 02:57:17,897
is a small drop in the bucket and we still

3316
02:57:17,897 --> 02:57:22,271
expect to have 151 miles left after this program

3317
02:57:22,271 --> 02:57:25,975
and as these remaining gaps are getting costlier

3318
02:57:25,975 --> 02:57:31,375
to build as they often require design and permitting

3319
02:57:31,391 --> 02:57:34,391
and the inflationary impacts, we're

3320
02:57:34,631 --> 02:57:37,647
expecting it's going to take at least 33 years to complete that.

3321
02:57:37,647 --> 02:57:41,551
Moving over to the roadway lighting program,

3322
02:57:41,551 --> 02:57:46,311
roadway lighting is a proven safety countermeasure as well.

3323
02:57:46,311 --> 02:57:49,324
According to the Federal Highway Administration.

3324
02:57:49,324 --> 02:57:54,391
The nighttime mortality crash rate is three times that.

3325
02:57:54,391 --> 02:57:57,343
Of the daytime crash rate.

3326
02:57:57,343 --> 02:58:01,977
And the simplest solution and the most effective solution

3327
02:58:01,977 --> 02:58:03,917
is investment in roadway lighting.

3328
02:58:03,917 --> 02:58:09,391
Where we can see an up to 42% reduction in pedestrian injury

3329
02:58:09,391 --> 02:58:10,171
crashes.

3330
02:58:10,171 --> 02:58:14,381
At intersections with the use of roadway lighting.

3331
02:58:14,381 --> 02:58:17,493
The history of the CIP roadway lighting program

3332
02:58:17,493 --> 02:58:19,313
and how we work with our partners,

3333
02:58:19,313 --> 02:58:25,151
we have OUC and Duke Energy who can, who we partner with.

3334
02:58:25,151 --> 02:58:29,311
The county identifies the projects and Duke Energy

3335
02:58:29,311 --> 02:58:35,710
and oh you see, they scheduled the design and installation

3336
02:58:35,710 --> 02:58:40,471
as well as the county paying the capital charges for that design

3337
02:58:40,471 --> 02:58:41,991
and installation.

3338
02:58:41,991 --> 02:58:44,735
And paying the ongoing maintenance charges.

3339
02:58:44,735 --> 02:58:49,671
All designs meet Fdo standards and as a side note,

3340
02:58:49,671 --> 02:58:52,463
under Florida statutes, the lighting on local roads

3341
02:58:52,463 --> 02:58:56,211
is administered by the county controller's office.

3342
02:58:56,211 --> 02:59:00,339
A little idea of the history since the year 2000.

3343
02:59:00,339 --> 02:59:04,471
The CIP roadway lighting program has actually

3344
02:59:04,471 --> 02:59:10,471
been able to cover 385 miles of arterial and collector roads.

3345
02:59:10,651 --> 02:59:12,651
Under this program.

3346
02:59:13,231 --> 02:59:17,591
As a result, we were able to find

3347
02:59:17,591 --> 02:59:22,391
that 166 miles are remaining on arterial collector roads.

3348
02:59:25,710 --> 02:59:29,871
With the investment of $15 million under a TSP,

3349
02:59:30,531 --> 02:59:32,810
we're expecting that installation

3350
02:59:32,810 --> 02:59:37,481
of 131 miles of lighting on the arterial collector roads,

3351
02:59:37,570 --> 02:59:41,191
with the remaining needs of approximately 25 miles.

3352
02:59:41,191 --> 02:59:43,871
However, we don't have the additional funding

3353
02:59:43,871 --> 02:59:47,751
for roadway lighting outside of funded CIP roadway projects.

3354
02:59:47,751 --> 02:59:51,871
As the current lighting program addresses pedestrian safety

3355
02:59:51,871 --> 02:59:54,151
but at intersections only.

3356
02:59:54,151 --> 02:59:57,371
Moving on to the Vision Zero Safety program,

3357
02:59:57,371 --> 03:00:00,831
vision Zero safety initiatives, have been implemented

3358
03:00:00,831 --> 03:00:04,815
at the federal, state, and regional levels to support --

3359
03:00:04,815 --> 03:00:09,791
to promote the safety systems approach to road user safety.

3360
03:00:09,791 --> 03:00:14,591
In August 2022, the board approved Vision Zero resolution

3361
03:00:16,639 --> 03:00:19,701
that is to eliminate fatalities on our transportation systems

3362
03:00:19,701 --> 03:00:21,483
by the year 2040.

3363
03:00:21,483 --> 03:00:25,583
Two years later, the Vision Zero Action Plan was approved.

3364
03:00:25,583 --> 03:00:27,710
By the board.

3365
03:00:27,710 --> 03:00:30,710
Which identified the top 24 projects

3366
03:00:46,129 --> 03:00:47,462
with approximately $251 million.

3367
03:00:47,462 --> 03:00:47,472
Subsequently the board approved an annual budget of $2.5 million

3368
03:00:47,472 --> 03:00:47,479
annually to meet those Vision Zero goals.

3369
03:00:47,479 --> 03:00:47,484
These efforts were recognized recently

3370
03:00:47,484 --> 03:00:49,151
by the National Association of Counties.

3371
03:00:49,151 --> 03:00:52,751
As a best in Category Award.

3372
03:00:52,831 --> 03:00:57,310
As far as the safety program goes,

3373
03:00:57,151 --> 03:01:01,951
the TSP funds, the $15 million over the five years

3374
03:01:01,951 --> 03:01:05,610
to fund those nine major corridors,

3375
03:01:05,610 --> 03:01:09,841
those corridors were identified prior to the Vision Zero Action

3376
03:01:09,841 --> 03:01:10,351
Plan.

3377
03:01:10,351 --> 03:01:13,421
The remaining needs after a TSP still

3378
03:01:13,421 --> 03:01:16,421
remain those 24 corridors at $251 million.

3379
03:01:17,510 --> 03:01:21,851
This investment of $2.5 million under the Vision Zero

3380
03:01:22,530 --> 03:01:24,840
is a small drop in the bucket and makes a little bit

3381
03:01:24,840 --> 03:01:26,132
of a dent in the overall needs.

3382
03:01:26,132 --> 03:01:29,537
Would take about 100 years to complete.

3383
03:01:29,537 --> 03:01:32,537
Under the current funding commits.

3384
03:01:33,310 --> 03:01:35,919
Moving on to our progress report, from the start

3385
03:01:35,919 --> 03:01:38,657
we recognize the need for public transparency

3386
03:01:38,657 --> 03:01:41,951
of taxpayer investment in the safety program.

3387
03:01:41,951 --> 03:01:44,463
The website was put together ahead

3388
03:01:44,463 --> 03:01:46,431
of the program and several months

3389
03:01:46,431 --> 03:01:48,591
after the conception of the program,

3390
03:01:48,591 --> 03:01:51,549
the public facing dashboard was rolled out.

3391
03:01:51,549 --> 03:01:55,951
This is accessible to the public and updated every two weeks.

3392
03:01:55,951 --> 03:01:59,561
It shows both links and county Projects and their status as.

3393
03:01:59,561 --> 03:02:02,551
One of our major goals is to refresh this website

3394
03:02:02,551 --> 03:02:05,351
to further highlight the successes of the program.

3395
03:02:05,351 --> 03:02:09,783
We have also been bringing the news to the residents.

3396
03:02:09,783 --> 03:02:12,767
Through newsletters at the neighborhood level

3397
03:02:12,767 --> 03:02:15,551
as well as through social media.

3398
03:02:15,551 --> 03:02:18,404
We've been presenting at ESP successes.

3399
03:02:18,404 --> 03:02:20,271
Completed projects.

3400
03:02:20,271 --> 03:02:22,100
Projects and construction and planning.

3401
03:02:22,100 --> 03:02:25,601
That's come through over 70 project newsletters

3402
03:02:26,510 --> 03:02:29,391
and over 60 social media posts through the county's

3403
03:02:29,391 --> 03:02:31,250
major social media platforms.

3404
03:02:31,250 --> 03:02:34,191
We also want to extend our gratitude to the commissioners.

3405
03:02:34,191 --> 03:02:38,895
For their ongoing support in amplifying these messages.

3406
03:02:38,895 --> 03:02:42,651
And helping be an active part of our communication strategy

3407
03:02:42,651 --> 03:02:46,791
to help residents know and learn about our safety projects

3408
03:02:46,791 --> 03:02:49,719
and how it benefits the community.

3409
03:02:49,719 --> 03:02:55,210
As our goal under at ESP is to build safety projects quickly,

3410
03:02:55,210 --> 03:02:58,347
we have successfully employed a variety of methods

3411
03:02:58,347 --> 03:03:00,123
to carry this out.

3412
03:03:00,123 --> 03:03:03,836
We program projects early on in the projects

3413
03:03:03,836 --> 03:03:07,710
so we can get to the more complex projects with higher

3414
03:03:07,710 --> 03:03:10,515
budgets to construction by the second half of this program

3415
03:03:10,515 --> 03:03:12,561
and complete by the end of this program.

3416
03:03:12,561 --> 03:03:15,741
We've also been augmenting our staff

3417
03:03:15,741 --> 03:03:18,310
with project management on the project management side

3418
03:03:18,310 --> 03:03:21,631
and on the construction inspection side.

3419
03:03:21,991 --> 03:03:26,144
We've been bundling projects to save time and money

3420
03:03:26,144 --> 03:03:28,463
and understanding our funds are limited

3421
03:03:28,463 --> 03:03:33,446
in that to offset inflation effects we've been constructing

3422
03:03:33,446 --> 03:03:36,465
quickly and one of the major successes coming out

3423
03:03:36,465 --> 03:03:40,331
of this program is the use of the term construction contract.

3424
03:03:40,331 --> 03:03:44,531
To accelerate the delivery of sidewalk projects.

3425
03:03:44,991 --> 03:03:47,837
That results in a savings of time

3426
03:03:47,837 --> 03:03:51,271
and a cost savings of over $5 million,

3427
03:03:51,271 --> 03:03:53,479
as we employ this strategy.

3428
03:03:53,479 --> 03:03:56,607
Keep that in mind as we look at the next few slides.

3429
03:03:56,607 --> 03:03:58,951
Here's the overall program spending

3430
03:03:58,951 --> 03:04:00,564
from the start of the program.

3431
03:04:00,564 --> 03:04:04,131
The blue bar represents the overall $100 million

3432
03:04:04,131 --> 03:04:07,791
program pair combined between Orange County and Links.

3433
03:04:07,791 --> 03:04:10,575
And the Orange Bar shows our progress spending

3434
03:04:10,575 --> 03:04:15,100
to date we are currently at $40.6 million spent.

3435
03:04:15,100 --> 03:04:21,100
Breaking down ATSP into the smaller programs for a sidewalk,

3436
03:04:32,933 --> 03:04:34,683
lighting, safety and transit, the blue bar

3437
03:04:34,683 --> 03:04:34,691
represents have any money allocated to each program

3438
03:04:34,691 --> 03:04:34,702
and how many projects we're expected at 2023 to be planned

3439
03:04:34,702 --> 03:04:34,923
under that allocation.

3440
03:04:34,923 --> 03:04:37,600
We are under the halfway point under each category

3441
03:04:37,600 --> 03:04:40,710
and as I mentioned, we're able to achieve significant savings

3442
03:04:40,710 --> 03:04:43,710
through construction management, project bundling,

3443
03:04:43,131 --> 03:04:44,724
and that use of term contracts.

3444
03:04:44,724 --> 03:04:47,891
Thus we are able to maximize efficiencies

3445
03:04:47,891 --> 03:04:50,743
in our spending which still helps to mitigate but not

3446
03:04:50,743 --> 03:04:54,343
fully offset the effects of inflation.

3447
03:04:54,391 --> 03:04:57,751
And as our more complex projects are kicking off, now

3448
03:04:57,751 --> 03:04:59,831
in the construction phases, those

3449
03:04:59,831 --> 03:05:01,697
are projects that have larger budgets.

3450
03:05:01,697 --> 03:05:06,631
We expect there to be an uptick in construction spending.

3451
03:05:06,631 --> 03:05:10,231
Looking across all of the categories,

3452
03:05:11,110 --> 03:05:15,231
we are making good progress with 117 projects completed

3453
03:05:15,231 --> 03:05:17,691
on the public works side.

3454
03:05:17,691 --> 03:05:20,495
That translates to 19 miles of sidewalk.

3455
03:05:20,495 --> 03:05:23,211
Over 26 miles of roadway lighting.

3456
03:05:23,211 --> 03:05:28,110
And 24 corridor miles of corridor with improved safety

3457
03:05:28,271 --> 03:05:28,804
measures.

3458
03:05:28,804 --> 03:05:30,346
At this moment I'm going to pass this

3459
03:05:30,346 --> 03:05:32,871
along to Mr. James Boyle who will take it over

3460
03:05:32,871 --> 03:05:34,871
for transit accomplishments.

3461
03:05:35,611 --> 03:05:37,311
>> All right thank you Kelly.

3462
03:05:37,311 --> 03:05:40,911
Good morning Vice Mayor, members of the commission.

3463
03:05:40,911 --> 03:05:41,631
James Boyle.

3464
03:05:41,631 --> 03:05:48,831
Chief development officer I'm happy to be here in front of you

3465
03:06:00,531 --> 03:06:01,614
to talk about the success.

3466
03:06:01,614 --> 03:06:01,625
What it means to links writers and for the community overall.

3467
03:06:01,625 --> 03:06:01,635
To date we have completed all of our service enhancements.

3468
03:06:01,635 --> 03:06:04,930
Six routes that we identified where we increased frequency.

3469
03:06:04,930 --> 03:06:06,639
There were four routes that we extended service to

3470
03:06:06,639 --> 03:06:09,239
to connect to the Pine Hills Transfer Center

3471
03:06:09,239 --> 03:06:12,337
that we talked about a little bit at the last time I was here.

3472
03:06:12,337 --> 03:06:16,526
We also have used the funds to create a new route.

3473
03:06:16,526 --> 03:06:18,526
The link 311.

3474
03:06:18,973 --> 03:06:23,657
And then on our capital side, with our bus stops,

3475
03:06:23,657 --> 03:06:26,111
we have been very robust.

3476
03:06:26,111 --> 03:06:27,935
We've upped our ante in delivering

3477
03:06:27,935 --> 03:06:30,510
the number of bus shelters and bus stops

3478
03:06:30,510 --> 03:06:31,591
throughout the service area.

3479
03:06:31,591 --> 03:06:35,669
Typically we average about 25 bus stops a year.

3480
03:06:35,669 --> 03:06:37,985
And we are now up to 75.

3481
03:06:37,985 --> 03:06:40,891
We're using a lot of our on call contractors and consultants

3482
03:06:40,891 --> 03:06:44,491
to help deliver those bus shelters.

3483
03:06:44,831 --> 03:06:47,831
And every commission district has received new bus shelters

3484
03:06:47,831 --> 03:06:50,191
and still will be receiving new bus shelters.

3485
03:06:50,191 --> 03:06:53,851
On the server side, the chart shows the increase

3486
03:06:53,851 --> 03:06:56,101
in weekday average weekday ridership

3487
03:06:56,101 --> 03:06:58,897
for routes that did receive frequency enhancements.

3488
03:06:58,897 --> 03:07:03,191
You can see for links come on route 474125.

3489
03:07:03,191 --> 03:07:06,191
Those all received frequency increases

3490
03:07:06,351 --> 03:07:10,231
and you can see just by that alone, the ridership goes up.

3491
03:07:10,231 --> 03:07:12,708
The more often a bus comes the more likely

3492
03:07:12,708 --> 03:07:14,477
you are to get people to use it.

3493
03:07:14,477 --> 03:07:15,839
That's a good thing.

3494
03:07:15,839 --> 03:07:21,700
That's the number one thing from riders and Non-riders.

3495
03:07:21,700 --> 03:07:26,613
I would ride the bus if it came more often.

3496
03:07:26,613 --> 03:07:28,391
We didn't stop on weekday.

3497
03:07:28,391 --> 03:07:33,727
A big opportunity for transit is adding more service on weekends.

3498
03:07:33,727 --> 03:07:35,676
We looked at our Sundays where we

3499
03:07:35,676 --> 03:07:37,807
had a lot of routes that only ran once an hour.

3500
03:07:37,807 --> 03:07:40,175
We picked several routes to increase the frequency

3501
03:07:40,175 --> 03:07:41,951
to 30 minutes on those routes.

3502
03:07:41,951 --> 03:07:44,927
You can see the ridership there speaks for itself.

3503
03:07:44,927 --> 03:07:48,527
The increases on all those routes.

3504
03:07:49,471 --> 03:07:53,479
The continuation of the progress we have been able to implement,

3505
03:07:53,479 --> 03:07:57,144
the 311, which I briefly spoke about earlier this

3506
03:07:57,144 --> 03:07:59,311
is a new route that basically connects

3507
03:07:59,311 --> 03:08:02,561
the Orlando International Airport to SunRail,

3508
03:08:02,561 --> 03:08:04,511
to Disney Springs.

3509
03:08:04,511 --> 03:08:06,511
It's a great route.

3510
03:08:06,511 --> 03:08:08,624
Ridership has been doing well.

3511
03:08:08,624 --> 03:08:12,423
This is the airport connector to SunRail and Disney Springs.

3512
03:08:12,423 --> 03:08:15,415
As a side note it does to Epic Universe,

3513
03:08:15,415 --> 03:08:17,559
which they pay for separately.

3514
03:08:17,559 --> 03:08:22,797
We were also able to extend links, route nine, route

3515
03:08:22,797 --> 03:08:26,397
44, 48 and 49, to connect to Pine Hills.

3516
03:08:26,527 --> 03:08:29,767
This has been a great success for the passengers who ride

3517
03:08:29,767 --> 03:08:33,367
those bus routes in that area.

3518
03:08:33,391 --> 03:08:38,476
And then overall, the ridership increase that we've seen

3519
03:08:38,476 --> 03:08:41,471
for the past year on all the routes that we've approved

3520
03:08:41,471 --> 03:08:46,471
service on, it equates to about 735,000 trips a year.

3521
03:08:46,471 --> 03:08:51,151
For our links, for our riders, this has been a great success

3522
03:08:51,151 --> 03:08:55,191
and we thank the county for providing funds to links for us

3523
03:08:55,191 --> 03:08:56,431
to be able to do that.

3524
03:08:56,431 --> 03:08:57,790
Thank you.

3525
03:08:57,790 --> 03:09:02,479
I'm going to turn it back over to Kelly.

3526
03:09:19,108 --> 03:09:20,775
>> Coming back to the public works side,

3527
03:09:20,775 --> 03:09:20,785
we have completed those 117 projects and with the remainder

3528
03:09:20,785 --> 03:09:20,794
of this program's funding, we expect to complete those

3529
03:09:20,794 --> 03:09:20,799
projects that are under production.

3530
03:09:20,799 --> 03:09:21,375
Those are projects identified as under construction and design

3531
03:09:21,375 --> 03:09:23,151
and in the planning stages.

3532
03:09:23,151 --> 03:09:26,751
A little bit more about that.

3533
03:09:26,931 --> 03:09:28,871
In production projects are those projects

3534
03:09:28,871 --> 03:09:30,230
that are in construction.

3535
03:09:30,230 --> 03:09:32,164
We actually are pleased to announce

3536
03:09:32,164 --> 03:09:37,351
that one of the two signals on the clear Kona CoA quarter

3537
03:09:37,351 --> 03:09:40,471
this is located at the Fountain West Boulevard,

3538
03:09:40,471 --> 03:09:43,581
has just opened this past week and we're celebrating that

3539
03:09:43,581 --> 03:09:46,335
with another pedestrian signal and two more on Turkey Lake

3540
03:09:46,335 --> 03:09:49,871
Road that are going to be turned on in the coming months.

3541
03:09:49,871 --> 03:09:53,151
We also have more projects that are in the design and planning

3542
03:09:53,151 --> 03:09:53,767
stages.

3543
03:09:53,767 --> 03:09:58,348
And we show those removed and reprioritize projects listed

3544
03:09:58,348 --> 03:09:59,596
at the bottom of this chart.

3545
03:09:59,596 --> 03:10:01,474
These are projects that we have found

3546
03:10:01,474 --> 03:10:04,811
to have additional concerns as we evaluated them.

3547
03:10:04,811 --> 03:10:07,361
The removed projects were identified

3548
03:10:07,361 --> 03:10:09,557
due to projects that were subsequently annexed

3549
03:10:09,557 --> 03:10:11,929
after the start of the program.

3550
03:10:11,929 --> 03:10:14,851
Or projects that were identified and funded

3551
03:10:14,851 --> 03:10:18,884
under other programs such as the Ada Transition Program.

3552
03:10:18,884 --> 03:10:23,351
Those projects are not going to be funded under a TSP.

3553
03:10:23,351 --> 03:10:27,990
Coming back to this progress, the spending graph,

3554
03:10:27,990 --> 03:10:29,731
the blue bar on the right does show the budget amount

3555
03:10:29,731 --> 03:10:32,951
for each category and the number of projects that were projected

3556
03:10:32,951 --> 03:10:35,159
that we could complete.

3557
03:10:35,159 --> 03:10:38,663
The left represents our completed projects as well as

3558
03:10:38,663 --> 03:10:39,583
production spending.

3559
03:10:39,583 --> 03:10:42,471
This orange line at the top of each category

3560
03:10:42,471 --> 03:10:45,255
represents our full utilization of that allotted budget

3561
03:10:45,255 --> 03:10:47,211
and how many more projects we expect

3562
03:10:47,211 --> 03:10:49,715
to be able to complete by the end of the program.

3563
03:10:49,715 --> 03:10:52,891
Due to inflation we are limited in being

3564
03:10:52,891 --> 03:10:55,604
able to deliver the full list as approved by the board

3565
03:10:55,604 --> 03:10:59,431
and we expect to deliver those in production projects.

3566
03:10:59,431 --> 03:11:03,151
Taking a look at the map of projects,

3567
03:11:03,151 --> 03:11:04,647
this is the project shown in blue,

3568
03:11:04,647 --> 03:11:06,591
the projects that were originally

3569
03:11:06,591 --> 03:11:09,591
approved by the board in 2023.

3570
03:11:09,911 --> 03:11:14,111
Looking at this next map, these are

3571
03:11:15,470 --> 03:11:19,100
the projects currently completed and in production.

3572
03:11:19,100 --> 03:11:24,401
117 projects shown in dark green with projects in production,

3573
03:11:24,951 --> 03:11:27,643
86 of them, shown in the lighter green.

3574
03:11:27,643 --> 03:11:31,206
And here's a map of the Reprioritized project.

3575
03:11:31,206 --> 03:11:34,367
These are projects that were identified to have limitations

3576
03:11:34,367 --> 03:11:36,141
in the right of way.

3577
03:11:36,141 --> 03:11:39,511
Constraints and funding as we lack

3578
03:11:39,511 --> 03:11:41,623
matching grants and concerns that

3579
03:11:41,623 --> 03:11:43,127
were raised by the community.

3580
03:11:43,127 --> 03:11:46,811
They comprise a small portion by count and by mileage

3581
03:11:46,811 --> 03:11:48,264
of the overall program.

3582
03:11:48,264 --> 03:11:52,631
At the start of this program with the board's direction,

3583
03:11:52,631 --> 03:11:55,711
staff has prioritized projects for public health,

3584
03:11:55,711 --> 03:11:58,711
safety, and known risk factors and while availability

3585
03:11:58,711 --> 03:12:01,284
of remaining funds may limit our ability

3586
03:12:01,284 --> 03:12:05,951
to construct a reprioritized project under this program,

3587
03:12:05,951 --> 03:12:08,991
the reasons that they're on the list, for the most part,

3588
03:12:08,991 --> 03:12:09,743
still remain.

3589
03:12:09,743 --> 03:12:13,111
Under the Vision Zero resolution approved by the board,

3590
03:12:13,111 --> 03:12:16,324
we prioritize safety on all our transportation systems.

3591
03:12:16,324 --> 03:12:18,791
And therefore we'll be bringing this list

3592
03:12:18,791 --> 03:12:20,811
of reprioritized projects and recommendations

3593
03:12:20,811 --> 03:12:24,840
back for later discussion with the board.

3594
03:12:24,840 --> 03:12:27,451
Let's talk a little bit more.

3595
03:12:27,451 --> 03:12:33,451
Switching gears towards how, since the beginning of a TSP,

3596
03:12:33,639 --> 03:12:35,243
we've worked with our consultants

3597
03:12:35,243 --> 03:12:38,354
to stay up to date on prioritizations and assessments

3598
03:12:38,354 --> 03:12:40,271
and keeping up with the latest standards.

3599
03:12:40,271 --> 03:12:44,231
Again, award winning Naco award winning project.

3600
03:12:44,231 --> 03:12:45,604
The sidewalk assessment.

3601
03:12:45,604 --> 03:12:47,604
Windows completed in 2025.

3602
03:12:47,823 --> 03:12:50,223
Developed a comprehensive inventory.

3603
03:12:51,351 --> 03:12:53,737
Missing sidewalk gaps countywide.

3604
03:12:53,737 --> 03:12:57,519
And the prioritization metric and weighting factors as

3605
03:12:57,519 --> 03:12:59,311
determined by input from the commissioners.

3606
03:12:59,311 --> 03:13:01,181
This potentially turns the sidewalk program

3607
03:13:01,181 --> 03:13:06,391
into a proactive effort that -- to fill those missing sidewalk

3608
03:13:06,391 --> 03:13:07,311
gaps.

3609
03:13:07,311 --> 03:13:10,851
Additionally on the roadway lighting front,

3610
03:13:10,851 --> 03:13:13,271
the fDOT design manual now has updates

3611
03:13:13,271 --> 03:13:15,391
to allow the use of warmer color temperatures

3612
03:13:15,391 --> 03:13:18,791
in the appropriate context of surrounding conditions.

3613
03:13:18,791 --> 03:13:21,991
Utility company is now offer dark sky option.

3614
03:13:21,991 --> 03:13:24,951
That varies across different companies.

3615
03:13:24,951 --> 03:13:28,883
Those were not available at the start of the program in 2023.

3616
03:13:28,883 --> 03:13:33,584
That does include lower color temperature and warmer hues

3617
03:13:33,584 --> 03:13:38,213
as well as full cutoff fixtures to prevent light

3618
03:13:38,213 --> 03:13:39,171
from traveling upwards.

3619
03:13:39,171 --> 03:13:42,104
On the Vision Zero safety front, as I mentioned earlier,

3620
03:13:42,104 --> 03:13:44,700
the action plan was approved in 2024

3621
03:13:44,700 --> 03:13:47,541
and that identified those top 24 projects

3622
03:13:47,541 --> 03:13:51,550
and additionally it also developed a toolkit

3623
03:13:51,550 --> 03:13:55,991
of countermeasures for use on public works Safe Vision Zero

3624
03:13:55,991 --> 03:13:57,131
safety projects.

3625
03:13:57,131 --> 03:14:00,319
In summary, Orange County and Lynx

3626
03:14:00,319 --> 03:14:02,847
has been using innovative strategies

3627
03:14:02,847 --> 03:14:06,131
to meet the program objectives to implement

3628
03:14:06,131 --> 03:14:08,867
those projects quickly and follow the Vision Zero Safety

3629
03:14:08,867 --> 03:14:09,367
Strategy.

3630
03:14:09,367 --> 03:14:14,511
We are on target with $40.6 million spent to date period

3631
03:14:14,511 --> 03:14:16,701
completing those 19 miles of sidewalk,

3632
03:14:16,701 --> 03:14:20,741
over 26 miles of roadway lighting, 24 miles of upgraded

3633
03:14:20,741 --> 03:14:24,777
corridors, ten enhanced bus routes, one new Lynx

3634
03:14:24,777 --> 03:14:26,842
route, and 72 bus shelters.

3635
03:14:26,842 --> 03:14:28,948
As we reach the end of the program

3636
03:14:28,948 --> 03:14:31,191
and by the end of the program Orange County

3637
03:14:31,191 --> 03:14:34,546
expects to complete the original program list,

3638
03:14:34,546 --> 03:14:36,911
except for those reprioritized projects,

3639
03:14:36,911 --> 03:14:38,511
due to financial constraints.

3640
03:14:38,511 --> 03:14:40,761
And links will continue those operational improvements

3641
03:14:40,761 --> 03:14:43,257
through the end of this program and expects

3642
03:14:43,257 --> 03:14:47,811
to complete all 264 bus shelters using AtSb funding

3643
03:14:47,811 --> 03:14:50,811
and supplemented by federal funding.

3644
03:14:52,111 --> 03:14:57,551
Next steps are to report back to the board by spring of 2027

3645
03:14:57,551 --> 03:15:01,951
to discuss those Reprioritized projects and advanced sidewalk

3646
03:15:01,951 --> 03:15:04,310
and roadway lighting policies.

3647
03:15:04,310 --> 03:15:07,551
To update and share a new AtSb website

3648
03:15:07,551 --> 03:15:10,911
and to continue to bring innovative cost saving

3649
03:15:10,911 --> 03:15:14,583
measures to bring those safety projects to the community.

3650
03:15:14,583 --> 03:15:16,641
In closing, I would like to acknowledge

3651
03:15:16,641 --> 03:15:22,410
the hard work, demonstrated by the combined public works

3652
03:15:22,710 --> 03:15:23,831
and Lynx teams.

3653
03:15:23,831 --> 03:15:25,521
This is a collaborative effort.

3654
03:15:25,521 --> 03:15:27,440
Our talented and resourceful staff

3655
03:15:27,440 --> 03:15:29,357
has been working hard to make sure we continue

3656
03:15:29,357 --> 03:15:31,711
to meet the goals of the accelerated Transportation

3657
03:15:31,711 --> 03:15:32,771
Safety Program.

3658
03:15:32,771 --> 03:15:36,271
To deliver safety projects quickly and responsibly

3659
03:15:36,271 --> 03:15:37,551
to the public.

3660
03:15:37,551 --> 03:15:38,966
This concludes my presentation.

3661
03:15:38,966 --> 03:15:40,814
Thank you very much.

3662
03:15:40,814 --> 03:15:44,414
And we're here for any questions.

3663
03:15:59,634 --> 03:16:01,926
>> Thank you, Kelly for the presentation, and the team.

3664
03:16:01,926 --> 03:16:01,934
We'll go to the board for questions, comments?

3665
03:16:01,934 --> 03:16:01,936
Commissioner Wilson?

3666
03:16:01,936 --> 03:16:01,941
>> Thank you so much.

3667
03:16:01,941 --> 03:16:01,950
I just want to start by saying that you're

3668
03:16:01,950 --> 03:16:01,958
very kind for thanking us for our support.

3669
03:16:01,958 --> 03:16:04,500
I know that I pester you all almost every day about something

3670
03:16:04,500 --> 03:16:09,281
safety related out there and to see the accomplishments, to see

3671
03:16:09,281 --> 03:16:12,911
the actual national evaluation of these efforts,

3672
03:16:12,911 --> 03:16:18,111
it confirms that we're on the right path and on those days,

3673
03:16:18,111 --> 03:16:21,415
it's really annoying to continue to try to work through,

3674
03:16:21,415 --> 03:16:24,491
it's good to know we're doing the right things.

3675
03:16:24,491 --> 03:16:27,941
I had a question understanding that this is one of the one time

3676
03:16:27,941 --> 03:16:30,709
investments that we really felt was important because it aligned

3677
03:16:30,709 --> 03:16:32,251
with Division Zero and all the things

3678
03:16:32,251 --> 03:16:34,831
that we're trying to do to keep people safe.

3679
03:16:34,831 --> 03:16:38,711
Some of these, will hopefully continue on.

3680
03:16:38,711 --> 03:16:42,731
I'm thinking specifically about links and the results

3681
03:16:42,731 --> 03:16:45,615
that Lynx has had in seeing ridership.

3682
03:16:45,615 --> 03:16:49,215
Honestly when I got this presentation

3683
03:16:49,247 --> 03:16:53,395
I was so excited to see that it approves

3684
03:16:53,395 --> 03:16:55,319
what we see all the time.

3685
03:16:55,319 --> 03:16:58,440
That if it's convenient and frequent and attractive

3686
03:16:58,440 --> 03:16:59,815
that it's going to get ridership.

3687
03:16:59,815 --> 03:17:02,444
That felt like a pilot program to me.

3688
03:17:02,444 --> 03:17:04,317
A pilot program only does any good

3689
03:17:04,317 --> 03:17:05,874
if you have a long term plan of how

3690
03:17:05,874 --> 03:17:07,221
to make sure we continue that.

3691
03:17:07,221 --> 03:17:13,100
I guess my question is, is there an opportunity for funding

3692
03:17:13,100 --> 03:17:16,100
matches, grants, state funding opportunities

3693
03:17:16,251 --> 03:17:19,331
to try to continue along this path, knowing

3694
03:17:19,331 --> 03:17:21,390
we're going to continue to be constrained

3695
03:17:21,390 --> 03:17:23,511
as a local government, based on what we know

3696
03:17:23,511 --> 03:17:26,511
is coming down the pipeline?

3697
03:17:27,911 --> 03:17:28,904
>> I let James jump in.

3698
03:17:28,904 --> 03:17:30,821
Because I think your focus is more on transit.

3699
03:17:30,821 --> 03:17:33,351
And then I'll jump in.

3700
03:17:33,351 --> 03:17:35,751
>> Great question, Commissioner Wilson.

3701
03:17:36,151 --> 03:17:38,487
On the transit side there's always opportunities for us

3702
03:17:38,487 --> 03:17:40,491
to see additional funding.

3703
03:17:40,491 --> 03:17:43,111
Grants and things like that.

3704
03:17:43,111 --> 03:17:45,780
Obviously it's for transit it's more on the capital side

3705
03:17:45,780 --> 03:17:48,110
where it's easier to get grants than do

3706
03:17:48,110 --> 03:17:49,671
the operational improvements.

3707
03:17:49,671 --> 03:17:52,150
But the Dot does have service development grants

3708
03:17:52,150 --> 03:17:54,220
that we can do things operationally.

3709
03:17:54,220 --> 03:17:58,111
At the end of the program, we would reevaluate everything

3710
03:17:58,111 --> 03:18:00,924
as we kind of always do on an annual basis with our service

3711
03:18:00,924 --> 03:18:03,103
and we would work with the county staff

3712
03:18:03,103 --> 03:18:06,551
to identify other efficiencies in the system

3713
03:18:06,551 --> 03:18:09,630
where we might make some adjustments to save

3714
03:18:09,630 --> 03:18:12,261
some of the improvements we've done to the AtSb funding.

3715
03:18:12,261 --> 03:18:14,211
It would not all just come to an end period

3716
03:18:14,211 --> 03:18:17,585
we would look at it holistically and then decide

3717
03:18:17,585 --> 03:18:19,377
if we need to move things around and how we

3718
03:18:19,377 --> 03:18:22,977
can do >> That's great to hear.

3719
03:18:35,747 --> 03:18:37,747
Is there an opportunity to leverage the success?

3720
03:18:37,747 --> 03:18:37,753
I think oftentimes when we struggle

3721
03:18:37,753 --> 03:18:37,758
with justifying funding, people like

3722
03:18:37,758 --> 03:18:37,763
to point out ridership issues.

3723
03:18:37,763 --> 03:18:37,774
Which I will forever say as a public service and quite

3724
03:18:37,774 --> 03:18:37,803
frankly you have to put it out there for there to be ridership

3725
03:18:37,803 --> 03:18:38,845
and this is proving that.

3726
03:18:38,845 --> 03:18:40,951
Will this give you any continued opportunity

3727
03:18:40,951 --> 03:18:44,751
that maybe you didn't have before the investment?

3728
03:18:44,751 --> 03:18:45,601
>> I would say yes.

3729
03:18:45,601 --> 03:18:47,510
It is a good news story.

3730
03:18:47,510 --> 03:18:49,143
It shows that we've taken the dollars.

3731
03:18:49,143 --> 03:18:51,191
We've used those dollars right away.

3732
03:18:51,191 --> 03:18:53,887
And we have been able to show the increases in ridership

3733
03:18:53,887 --> 03:18:55,884
and the number of trips passengers are taking.

3734
03:18:55,884 --> 03:18:58,821
And just kind of anecdotally hearing folks

3735
03:18:58,821 --> 03:19:02,545
say they have their transfer time cut in half.

3736
03:19:02,545 --> 03:19:04,630
Those things go a long way.

3737
03:19:04,630 --> 03:19:05,855
Especially for a future endeavors

3738
03:19:05,855 --> 03:19:08,751
that we could point back to and say this was a great success

3739
03:19:08,751 --> 03:19:10,991
and we would like to continue that.

3740
03:19:10,991 --> 03:19:11,671
>> I agree.

3741
03:19:11,671 --> 03:19:13,629
You're going to hear it coming out of my mouth.

3742
03:19:13,629 --> 03:19:17,639
I am incredibly grateful for the investment but also the outcome

3743
03:19:17,639 --> 03:19:18,861
that we're seeing.

3744
03:19:18,861 --> 03:19:23,175
My final question was, about that new route.

3745
03:19:23,175 --> 03:19:24,967
Sorry, I forgot you again.

3746
03:19:24,967 --> 03:19:27,910
About the new route, understanding it

3747
03:19:27,910 --> 03:19:31,179
is very specifically targeted towards our tourism corridor.

3748
03:19:31,179 --> 03:19:33,541
It goes from Disney Springs to the airport.

3749
03:19:33,541 --> 03:19:38,530
We understand that it's been a great benefit to our --

3750
03:19:38,530 --> 03:19:43,321
it's a great benefit to our tourism industry by having this

3751
03:19:43,321 --> 03:19:44,710
direct connection.

3752
03:19:44,710 --> 03:19:46,891
Are there any tourist development tax dollars that

3753
03:19:46,891 --> 03:19:49,528
make its way to this, knowing it is

3754
03:19:49,528 --> 03:19:52,241
a clear benefit to our tourism corridor

3755
03:19:52,241 --> 03:19:54,641
and to tourism industry?

3756
03:19:55,534 --> 03:19:57,951
>> This particular route is funded through AtSb and Orange

3757
03:19:57,951 --> 03:19:59,531
County dollars.

3758
03:19:59,531 --> 03:20:03,337
There's no funding that pays for this particular route.

3759
03:20:03,337 --> 03:20:06,710
It's strictly from what the county gives us

3760
03:20:06,710 --> 03:20:08,751
on the annual basis to fund the services and then

3761
03:20:08,751 --> 03:20:10,537
part of the AtSb.

3762
03:20:10,537 --> 03:20:15,941
However we did do a partnership with the Shingle Creek Utility

3763
03:20:15,941 --> 03:20:18,371
District for universal to connect their.

3764
03:20:18,371 --> 03:20:21,111
And we do have other agreements and partnerships

3765
03:20:21,111 --> 03:20:23,511
with the Central Florida Tourism Oversight

3766
03:20:23,511 --> 03:20:25,231
District for Disney routes.

3767
03:20:25,231 --> 03:20:27,631
There's an opportunity there.

3768
03:20:28,250 --> 03:20:30,317
>> Is that within Disney or does that include the route

3769
03:20:30,317 --> 03:20:32,791
to and from the airport?

3770
03:20:32,791 --> 03:20:33,991
>> That is not for the 311.

3771
03:20:33,991 --> 03:20:35,771
The 311 is strictly just general funds

3772
03:20:35,771 --> 03:20:38,771
from Orange County and AtSb.

3773
03:20:39,431 --> 03:20:42,111
>> Obviously I think it's a timely conversation for us.

3774
03:20:42,111 --> 03:20:46,351
We're wrestling right now with the future of TT.

3775
03:20:46,351 --> 03:20:48,991
Thank you for humoring me but I wanted

3776
03:20:48,991 --> 03:20:53,179
to point out that there is an obvious benefit to our tourism

3777
03:20:53,179 --> 03:20:53,679
industry.

3778
03:20:53,679 --> 03:20:59,271
As well as the visitors who come in and finding those investment

3779
03:20:59,271 --> 03:21:02,415
dollars where we have them and where they've been stable

3780
03:21:02,415 --> 03:21:04,111
is critical now but will continue

3781
03:21:04,111 --> 03:21:08,203
to be so because this is definitive in its funding

3782
03:21:08,203 --> 03:21:08,703
source.

3783
03:21:08,703 --> 03:21:11,103
Thank you so much.

3784
03:21:12,191 --> 03:21:15,791
>> Thank you Commissioner Wilson Commissioner Uribe?

3785
03:21:17,310 --> 03:21:20,631
>> Brian you didn't have to leave.

3786
03:21:22,311 --> 03:21:24,826
When we look at the tourism corridor,

3787
03:21:24,826 --> 03:21:27,343
how many locations are there where

3788
03:21:27,343 --> 03:21:28,867
there are stops and so forth?

3789
03:21:28,867 --> 03:21:30,242
Not only for the people that work

3790
03:21:30,242 --> 03:21:32,750
there but the people who use it because they

3791
03:21:32,750 --> 03:21:33,168
visit our community?

3792
03:21:33,168 --> 03:21:36,751
Can you give us a little bit of overlay on that?

3793
03:21:36,751 --> 03:21:37,251
And

3794
03:21:37,251 --> 03:21:38,696
>> I'll do my best.

3795
03:21:38,696 --> 03:21:40,279
Pull numbers from what I can remember.

3796
03:21:40,279 --> 03:21:42,866
The majority of our routes double

3797
03:21:42,866 --> 03:21:46,710
a huge number of our routes serve the tourism district.

3798
03:21:46,710 --> 03:21:47,271
I drive.

3799
03:21:47,271 --> 03:21:48,151
Disney universal.

3800
03:21:48,151 --> 03:21:53,970
And based on our last owned origin and destination survey,

3801
03:21:53,970 --> 03:21:57,751
almost 50% of our trips are people working in that area.

3802
03:21:57,751 --> 03:21:59,791
A lot of our ridership is derived

3803
03:21:59,791 --> 03:22:02,710
from folks working in the service industry

3804
03:22:02,710 --> 03:22:05,831
and serving in particular the heavy tourism

3805
03:22:05,831 --> 03:22:07,879
district in those areas.

3806
03:22:07,879 --> 03:22:10,131
We're talking about thousands of trips a day.

3807
03:22:10,131 --> 03:22:13,400
Well over 6000 7000 trips a day.

3808
03:22:13,400 --> 03:22:15,751
In those general areas or those specific corridors

3809
03:22:15,751 --> 03:22:18,151
on very specific routes.

3810
03:22:19,591 --> 03:22:22,631
It's very close to 50% of our ridership

3811
03:22:22,631 --> 03:22:24,391
is for the service industry.

3812
03:22:24,391 --> 03:22:26,391
It's very high.

3813
03:22:28,244 --> 03:22:31,157
>> I agree we should look to get some tourism dollars to help

3814
03:22:31,157 --> 03:22:31,657
you.

3815
03:22:31,657 --> 03:22:36,604
Are all of your locations actually covered and so forth

3816
03:22:36,604 --> 03:22:40,591
or are there still some that we need to get in that quarter?

3817
03:22:40,591 --> 03:22:44,104
>> We think we do a great job of trying to get as much as we can

3818
03:22:44,104 --> 03:22:45,391
of the resources we have.

3819
03:22:45,391 --> 03:22:47,183
Obviously there's other areas we would like

3820
03:22:47,183 --> 03:22:48,689
to serve a little bit better.

3821
03:22:48,689 --> 03:22:51,877
Adding more frequency really is the key to it.

3822
03:22:51,877 --> 03:22:54,759
It's not so much adding new routes.

3823
03:22:54,759 --> 03:22:57,759
It's taking what we have.

3824
03:22:57,924 --> 03:23:03,177
>> I was actually saying areas where folks can stand.

3825
03:23:03,177 --> 03:23:04,385
>> O, shelters.

3826
03:23:04,385 --> 03:23:06,635
There's always a need for more shelters.

3827
03:23:06,635 --> 03:23:09,884
We could have taken more of that funding

3828
03:23:09,884 --> 03:23:11,517
and put it toward more shelters.

3829
03:23:11,517 --> 03:23:15,196
It's kind of a trade off a little bit.

3830
03:23:15,196 --> 03:23:17,250
If you have a more frequent service,

3831
03:23:17,250 --> 03:23:19,670
you don't have to worry about people standing out

3832
03:23:19,670 --> 03:23:21,411
in the hot sun and thunderstorms come up waiting

3833
03:23:21,411 --> 03:23:25,110
30 minutes or an hour for bus.

3834
03:23:40,983 --> 03:23:43,400
>> Jim Harrison, who we miss, you know when we went to you

3835
03:23:43,400 --> 03:23:46,400
guys and said look, (indiscernible).

3836
03:23:49,627 --> 03:23:52,200
The exact example of us all working together and talking.

3837
03:23:52,200 --> 03:23:52,500
I appreciate it.

3838
03:23:52,500 --> 03:23:52,110
It was obviously a loaded question,

3839
03:23:52,110 --> 03:23:52,210
but we're just trying to find more funding that isn't

3840
03:23:52,210 --> 03:23:52,148
all codependent on taxpayers.

3841
03:23:52,148 --> 03:23:52,690
I understand.

3842
03:23:52,690 --> 03:23:53,911
I'll move on.

3843
03:23:53,911 --> 03:23:55,911
Thank you.

3844
03:23:56,511 --> 03:24:00,710
>> First of all, I want to thank you guys.

3845
03:24:00,710 --> 03:24:04,404
It's a double edged sword when we've gone and tried

3846
03:24:04,404 --> 03:24:07,491
to do sidewalks and communities it's been interesting.

3847
03:24:07,491 --> 03:24:11,691
No, we barely have a front yard.

3848
03:24:11,775 --> 03:24:13,751
You're coming into our right of way.

3849
03:24:13,751 --> 03:24:17,671
I want to give you all credit.

3850
03:24:17,671 --> 03:24:21,865
When I bothered Susan, and I think all of us

3851
03:24:21,865 --> 03:24:25,611
have sent her or sent in issues of concern.

3852
03:24:25,611 --> 03:24:27,511
When was a bus stop for an elementary school

3853
03:24:27,511 --> 03:24:28,551
that had no sidewalk.

3854
03:24:28,551 --> 03:24:32,431
The kids were actually standing on the road,

3855
03:24:32,431 --> 03:24:36,700
waiting for the bus stop to come, and knowing now

3856
03:24:36,700 --> 03:24:39,691
there's a sidewalk period that community has been so helpful.

3857
03:24:39,691 --> 03:24:43,201
I also want to give kudos for when

3858
03:24:43,201 --> 03:24:47,511
you're going over infrastructure and you have the bars to protect

3859
03:24:47,511 --> 03:24:48,907
people who are walking.

3860
03:24:48,907 --> 03:24:52,691
Which kind of gives that additional Ada production

3861
03:24:52,691 --> 03:24:53,611
of individuals.

3862
03:24:53,611 --> 03:24:55,551
I want to say that's been great.

3863
03:24:55,551 --> 03:24:57,504
I did have a question on the lighting.

3864
03:24:57,504 --> 03:25:00,504
That is a hot item.

3865
03:25:02,271 --> 03:25:06,971
When do you guys make decisions of prioritizing certain areas

3866
03:25:06,971 --> 03:25:08,584
compared to others.

3867
03:25:08,584 --> 03:25:14,710
I will say that econ has been something that prior to me

3868
03:25:14,710 --> 03:25:17,488
getting here eight years ago was a hot item.

3869
03:25:17,488 --> 03:25:21,775
But it just hasn't made its level up to get that.

3870
03:25:21,775 --> 03:25:25,119
It's concerning because there's residential right on the road.

3871
03:25:25,119 --> 03:25:27,770
There's an elementary school right on the road.

3872
03:25:27,770 --> 03:25:30,631
And while you guys have done that little quarter

3873
03:25:30,631 --> 03:25:33,631
around the school, there's clearly,

3874
03:25:33,757 --> 03:25:36,671
it's just such a dark non-straight road

3875
03:25:36,671 --> 03:25:39,543
with residential on both sides.

3876
03:25:39,543 --> 03:25:41,236
Can you explain to me that criteria

3877
03:25:41,236 --> 03:25:44,724
so that I can tell my constituents why they are still

3878
03:25:44,724 --> 03:25:46,724
not getting streetlights?

3879
03:25:46,991 --> 03:25:49,641
>> There's shared responsibility between public works

3880
03:25:49,641 --> 03:25:53,991
and the controller's office, depending on what kind of road

3881
03:25:53,991 --> 03:25:55,777
that roadway lighting is requested

3882
03:25:55,777 --> 03:25:58,371
on if it's a functionally classified arterial

3883
03:25:58,371 --> 03:26:01,461
and collector roads, the board has demonstrated the willingness

3884
03:26:01,461 --> 03:26:06,261
to support those roadway lighting projects on those

3885
03:26:07,196 --> 03:26:08,446
functionally classified roads.

3886
03:26:08,446 --> 03:26:11,559
If it is an aside as a local road,

3887
03:26:11,559 --> 03:26:15,470
those requests go to the controller's office

3888
03:26:15,470 --> 03:26:17,447
for administering the process.

3889
03:26:18,431 --> 03:26:21,791
Setting up something like an MSP you to be

3890
03:26:21,791 --> 03:26:25,391
able to pay for that funding.

3891
03:26:42,694 --> 03:26:45,270
>> That's a specific area where it's not very organized.

3892
03:26:45,270 --> 03:26:45,400
I believe it's like one acre or two homes per acre or something

3893
03:26:45,400 --> 03:26:45,420
like that.

3894
03:26:45,420 --> 03:26:45,450
It's very broad.

3895
03:26:45,450 --> 03:26:45,520
But then you've got an elementary school.

3896
03:26:45,520 --> 03:26:45,570
So how do we handle?

3897
03:26:45,570 --> 03:26:45,445
>> That's something we we do handle on a case by case basis.

3898
03:26:45,445 --> 03:26:47,943
Just because we might identify quickly that oh

3899
03:26:47,943 --> 03:26:49,196
this is a local road.

3900
03:26:49,196 --> 03:26:51,124
We still take that in through public works

3901
03:26:51,124 --> 03:26:53,811
and try to identify as much as possible before,

3902
03:26:53,811 --> 03:26:56,811
who is responsible before coordinating.

3903
03:26:57,774 --> 03:27:00,191
>> If I can comment I would love to have an update on that

3904
03:27:00,191 --> 03:27:04,391
because it's not necessarily a neighborhood road,

3905
03:27:05,611 --> 03:27:07,463
it's much more specific.

3906
03:27:07,463 --> 03:27:09,870
It's an actual road.

3907
03:27:09,870 --> 03:27:12,111
It's a major road corridor for the county.

3908
03:27:12,111 --> 03:27:12,611
>> Okay.

3909
03:27:12,611 --> 03:27:16,231
Is that the one that's south of Deerwood Elementary?

3910
03:27:16,231 --> 03:27:16,977
>> Yes.

3911
03:27:16,977 --> 03:27:19,951
It's right on Deerwood Elementary.

3912
03:27:19,951 --> 03:27:22,710
>> I ride that one too.

3913
03:27:22,710 --> 03:27:23,661
>> Thank you.

3914
03:27:23,661 --> 03:27:25,457
Commissioner Kordell?

3915
03:27:25,457 --> 03:27:27,457
>> Yeah thank you.

3916
03:27:27,773 --> 03:27:34,591
I have a question, Kelly, and I think we discussed it yesterday.

3917
03:27:34,591 --> 03:27:38,901
But I wanted to ask you, in the slide number

3918
03:27:38,901 --> 03:27:43,701
29, the orange column means that, that's what's completed.

3919
03:27:49,281 --> 03:27:52,281
Based on the new column?

3920
03:27:53,651 --> 03:27:56,455
>>, the orange bar represents how much has been spent to date

3921
03:27:56,455 --> 03:27:59,575
and that's on projects that are already completed as well

3922
03:27:59,575 --> 03:28:02,651
as progress spending on projects that are in production.

3923
03:28:02,651 --> 03:28:07,451
Maybe a percentage of that 9 million under sidewalks

3924
03:28:08,551 --> 03:28:11,391
is for completed projects but we also

3925
03:28:11,391 --> 03:28:14,811
have projects that are in design and under construction

3926
03:28:14,811 --> 03:28:16,717
and not yet complete.

3927
03:28:16,717 --> 03:28:20,591
This bar represents how much progress spending to date.

3928
03:28:20,591 --> 03:28:23,617
As compared to what the blue bar is the blue bar

3929
03:28:23,617 --> 03:28:25,271
is when we're done.

3930
03:28:25,271 --> 03:28:31,271
This is the full amount of funding for each category.

3931
03:28:46,520 --> 03:28:48,603
>>, that means that based on what I'm seeing here,

3932
03:28:48,603 --> 03:28:48,612
that if we still have the sidewalk, 110 projects,

3933
03:28:48,612 --> 03:28:48,616
that's million, 25 million?

3934
03:28:48,616 --> 03:28:48,621
But we have done 60.

3935
03:28:48,621 --> 03:28:48,688
For example, for the money we have there,

3936
03:28:48,688 --> 03:28:51,975
maybe we won't complete the 110 projects, right?

3937
03:28:51,975 --> 03:28:57,541
Because the money is not -- >> The bars can be a little

3938
03:28:57,541 --> 03:29:00,430
misleading to because it shows what's been spent and not

3939
03:29:00,430 --> 03:29:01,671
what's been encumbered.

3940
03:29:01,671 --> 03:29:04,446
There's a good percentage that has been encumbered

3941
03:29:04,446 --> 03:29:08,351
beyond that orange bar that's been set aside and reserved

3942
03:29:08,351 --> 03:29:10,711
because we know, as we finish that project,

3943
03:29:10,711 --> 03:29:12,731
this is what it's going to take.

3944
03:29:12,731 --> 03:29:16,114
I really should have shown all three bars so that you can see,

3945
03:29:16,114 --> 03:29:18,131
this is actually what's gone out the door.

3946
03:29:18,131 --> 03:29:19,764
Has gone towards contractors.

3947
03:29:19,764 --> 03:29:23,257
Towards design firms, to complete these projects.

3948
03:29:23,257 --> 03:29:25,881
How much has been set aside so that as we complete

3949
03:29:25,881 --> 03:29:28,173
those projects, this is how much we

3950
03:29:28,173 --> 03:29:32,830
expect to be spending and that blue bar of the limitation

3951
03:29:32,830 --> 03:29:34,710
of the budget allocation.

3952
03:29:34,710 --> 03:29:36,951
I'll be able to get you those updated numbers

3953
03:29:36,951 --> 03:29:40,551
so you can get an idea.

3954
03:29:56,559 --> 03:29:58,892
>> Because I still think that the money won't be enough.

3955
03:29:58,892 --> 03:29:58,903
>> It won't be enough for all the projects originally planned

3956
03:29:58,903 --> 03:29:58,909
under a TSP back in 2023.

3957
03:29:58,909 --> 03:29:58,918
But we do expect to be able to complete,

3958
03:29:58,918 --> 03:29:58,925
I believe it's slide 40, where we

3959
03:29:58,925 --> 03:30:01,342
kind of talk about how many projects are under production.

3960
03:30:01,342 --> 03:30:03,391
Those additional projects, the 16 projects, those

3961
03:30:03,391 --> 03:30:06,815
are the ones that we expect to further complete

3962
03:30:06,815 --> 03:30:09,815
as we complete this program.

3963
03:30:28,272 --> 03:30:30,897
>> So then in slide 28, it says here that we already spent 40.6

3964
03:30:30,897 --> 03:30:30,901
million from the 100?

3965
03:30:30,901 --> 03:30:30,903
>> Yes.

3966
03:30:30,903 --> 03:30:30,910
That's adding together all those orange bars

3967
03:30:30,910 --> 03:30:31,868
on the following slide.

3968
03:30:31,868 --> 03:30:35,611
I kind of summed them all up and broke them out.

3969
03:30:35,611 --> 03:30:36,111
>> Okay.

3970
03:30:36,111 --> 03:30:38,111
Thank you.

3971
03:30:38,111 --> 03:30:40,734
>> Commissioner Scott, I don't have you on the screen.

3972
03:30:40,734 --> 03:30:43,134
Can you try again?

3973
03:31:07,254 --> 03:31:08,671
>> I just wanted to say thank you.

3974
03:31:08,671 --> 03:31:08,679
Bus shelters have been installed the past week.

3975
03:31:08,679 --> 03:31:10,679
I think they finished up the Oak Ridge corridor.

3976
03:31:10,679 --> 03:31:13,790
Commissioner, right up (indiscernible).

3977
03:31:18,915 --> 03:31:23,115
I just wanted to say thank you.

3978
03:31:31,120 --> 03:31:32,137
I'm happy with the program.

3979
03:31:32,137 --> 03:31:32,141
Thank you Vice Mayor.

3980
03:31:32,141 --> 03:31:32,147
>> Kelly thank you so much.

3981
03:31:32,147 --> 03:31:32,153
My comments are congratulations on all

3982
03:31:32,153 --> 03:31:32,159
the projects that your team finished

3983
03:31:32,159 --> 03:31:32,165
and the safety improvements you've made.

3984
03:31:32,165 --> 03:31:33,685
For all of that.

3985
03:31:33,685 --> 03:31:36,744
So, I just want to keep always putting it

3986
03:31:36,744 --> 03:31:39,191
on public record with Wedgefield because it's

3987
03:31:39,191 --> 03:31:41,759
a sensitive community because of the water and sewage issues

3988
03:31:41,759 --> 03:31:44,159
that they are facing.

3989
03:31:45,151 --> 03:31:49,164
And we all understand the pots of money and such.

3990
03:31:49,164 --> 03:31:51,711
They are they're conscious of how

3991
03:31:51,711 --> 03:31:55,911
they're taxpayer money is going on infrastructure.

3992
03:31:56,410 --> 03:31:59,351
The stoplights that we put in on Bancroft

3993
03:31:59,351 --> 03:32:03,569
when they had a dark sky ordinance in effect.

3994
03:32:03,569 --> 03:32:05,517
Way out in the middle of the rural area.

3995
03:32:05,517 --> 03:32:08,961
It's kind of like an airplane trip landing at night.

3996
03:32:08,961 --> 03:32:11,364
And they're very frustrated by it still.

3997
03:32:11,364 --> 03:32:12,861
I know that over the course of time

3998
03:32:12,861 --> 03:32:14,236
we're going to try to correct it.

3999
03:32:14,236 --> 03:32:16,402
I just want to make sure that I remind you

4000
03:32:16,402 --> 03:32:21,284
on behalf of the community that are anxiously awaiting.

4001
03:32:21,284 --> 03:32:23,310
>> I appreciate the reminder.

4002
03:32:23,310 --> 03:32:28,431
Overall I appreciate that this is a team effort.

4003
03:32:29,159 --> 03:32:31,964
Everybody at Public Works as well.

4004
03:32:31,964 --> 03:32:33,335
As Duke Energy.

4005
03:32:33,335 --> 03:32:36,191
Thank you for the reminder.

4006
03:32:36,191 --> 03:32:41,840
We will be looking to be able to address

4007
03:32:41,840 --> 03:32:44,840
further as we have funding.

4008
03:33:04,980 --> 03:33:05,522
>> Thank you.

4009
03:33:05,522 --> 03:33:05,527
I have some good news.

4010
03:33:05,527 --> 03:33:05,534
There are some communities like in Christmas

4011
03:33:05,534 --> 03:33:05,543
where they are not interested in receiving the light.

4012
03:33:05,543 --> 03:33:05,549
And then we have other communities

4013
03:33:05,549 --> 03:33:05,554
that didn't make the list.

4014
03:33:05,554 --> 03:33:05,581
I just wanted to bring up Bithlo.

4015
03:33:05,581 --> 03:33:08,810
I know we have a small scale study that's going on right now

4016
03:33:08,810 --> 03:33:09,123
for safety improvements.

4017
03:33:09,123 --> 03:33:12,108
I just wanted to bring up that that

4018
03:33:12,108 --> 03:33:14,561
is a high pedestrian high bicycle community.

4019
03:33:14,561 --> 03:33:17,327
That doesn't have sidewalks or lights

4020
03:33:17,327 --> 03:33:20,551
and so there is a high fatality of people who

4021
03:33:20,551 --> 03:33:22,951
have been unfortunately hit.

4022
03:33:23,471 --> 03:33:28,271
The community has been asking for speed plates.

4023
03:33:28,599 --> 03:33:33,399
Going down sixth Street headed towards community park.

4024
03:33:34,710 --> 03:33:37,149
I've heard since I knocked on doors

4025
03:33:37,149 --> 03:33:38,899
since the days of Commissioner Ted Edwards

4026
03:33:38,899 --> 03:33:42,813
so it has been a very long time and we do have a study going on,

4027
03:33:42,813 --> 03:33:45,547
but I want to bring to the forefront that we do need safety

4028
03:33:45,547 --> 03:33:46,951
improvements and by flow.

4029
03:33:46,951 --> 03:33:49,302
With that being said, as Lynx is here,

4030
03:33:49,302 --> 03:33:52,739
we have a bus stop in Bithlo.

4031
03:33:52,739 --> 03:33:55,223
And I see McKinney is here.

4032
03:33:55,223 --> 03:33:56,724
It's near Transportation Village.

4033
03:33:56,724 --> 03:33:58,231
And I want to make sure that route

4034
03:33:58,231 --> 03:34:02,756
is remaining intact, functional, and is going nowhere.

4035
03:34:02,756 --> 03:34:06,351
Like it's there for the people.

4036
03:34:06,351 --> 03:34:07,791
>> I will follow up on that.

4037
03:34:07,791 --> 03:34:09,691
We'll get back with you.

4038
03:34:09,691 --> 03:34:12,431
We're trying to schedule one on one meetings with your offices

4039
03:34:12,431 --> 03:34:14,559
just to follow up from the budget meeting.

4040
03:34:14,559 --> 03:34:17,734
We can talk about that with more detail.

4041
03:34:17,734 --> 03:34:18,276
>> Thank you.

4042
03:34:18,276 --> 03:34:20,671
I would like to say I agree with Commissioner

4043
03:34:20,671 --> 03:34:22,671
Wilson, Commissioner Uribe.

4044
03:34:23,710 --> 03:34:27,871
We talk about TT and how it should

4045
03:34:28,853 --> 03:34:30,612
fund some of the Lynx routes.

4046
03:34:30,612 --> 03:34:34,951
More than 50% of the Lynx routes service tourist attractions.

4047
03:34:34,951 --> 03:34:39,644
More than 50% means we have a lot of tourists that are on that

4048
03:34:39,644 --> 03:34:43,251
and I think also this board should consider

4049
03:34:43,251 --> 03:34:47,199
looking at something where we do a formal assessment of how

4050
03:34:47,199 --> 03:34:50,759
much money is actually being spent on marketing,

4051
03:34:50,759 --> 03:34:53,671
once we pass that 40% threshold.

4052
03:34:53,671 --> 03:34:57,783
It does open the state statute for use in transit.

4053
03:34:57,783 --> 03:35:01,470
There are so many events that the state

4054
03:35:01,470 --> 03:35:04,710
doesn't have a definition of destination marketing.

4055
03:35:04,710 --> 03:35:06,477
There's no definition for it.

4056
03:35:06,477 --> 03:35:11,401
When we have events like immersion that exist exclusively

4057
03:35:11,401 --> 03:35:14,231
and only to promote Orlando and it's

4058
03:35:14,231 --> 03:35:17,191
receiving millions of dollars in taxpayer money,

4059
03:35:17,191 --> 03:35:18,871
that should count towards marketing.

4060
03:35:18,871 --> 03:35:23,411
All the sports events that we do, life Orlando

4061
03:35:23,411 --> 03:35:25,931
when it's WWE or the Jaguars.

4062
03:35:25,931 --> 03:35:29,711
That is constant marketing for the destination.

4063
03:35:29,711 --> 03:35:34,771
Maybe we are to the point where once we look at how much we're

4064
03:35:34,771 --> 03:35:37,831
actually spending on marketing, we're past that threshold

4065
03:35:37,831 --> 03:35:40,284
and I think we should look at that.

4066
03:35:40,284 --> 03:35:44,359
I also support the use of TT to help fund our transit

4067
03:35:44,359 --> 03:35:46,631
and hopefully that would add to your budget

4068
03:35:46,631 --> 03:35:50,444
so that you could continue to serve us all in safety.

4069
03:35:50,444 --> 03:35:52,375
Does anybody have any other comments?

4070
03:35:52,375 --> 03:35:57,951
So the next agenda item, we are moving to is --

4071
03:35:57,951 --> 03:35:59,111
thank you Kelly and Team.

4072
03:35:59,111 --> 03:36:01,570
Thank you very much.

4073
03:36:01,570 --> 03:36:03,303
And we are moving to Commissioner Wilson

4074
03:36:03,303 --> 03:36:07,831
to present her report on the countywide prohibition

4075
03:36:07,831 --> 03:36:11,231
on the importation of exotic wildlife.

4076
03:36:11,231 --> 03:36:13,231
Commissioner Wilson.

4077
03:36:33,454 --> 03:36:33,996
>> Thank you.

4078
03:36:33,996 --> 03:36:34,100
I was going to say, you all have been with me long enough now

4079
03:36:34,100 --> 03:36:34,220
to know that typically if I get near technology it goes down.

4080
03:36:34,220 --> 03:36:34,340
I'll do the best I can but it is a pretty rudimentary

4081
03:36:34,340 --> 03:36:34,440
presentation today because I think this is our starting point

4082
03:36:34,440 --> 03:36:36,440
and I want to make sure that what I'm doing here

4083
03:36:36,440 --> 03:36:39,710
is getting you all up to speed getting the public up to speed

4084
03:36:39,710 --> 03:36:42,671
and then providing some potential interactions

4085
03:36:43,170 --> 03:36:45,391
with the county attorney's office.

4086
03:36:45,391 --> 03:36:49,591
Or anybody else who has some thoughts.

4087
03:36:50,281 --> 03:36:52,681
And then making recommendations.

4088
03:36:53,457 --> 03:36:57,657
We'll start with the goal today is

4089
03:37:01,364 --> 03:37:04,297
to think about what we can do to prevent another sloth world

4090
03:37:04,297 --> 03:37:04,797
tragedy.

4091
03:37:04,797 --> 03:37:08,791
For those of you who followed along

4092
03:37:08,791 --> 03:37:13,591
know there was a devastating series of events.

4093
03:37:13,735 --> 03:37:17,331
Beginning in late 2020 for shipments of sloths

4094
03:37:17,331 --> 03:37:20,231
arrived from South America and ultimately were

4095
03:37:20,231 --> 03:37:23,891
housed in conditions that proved to be catastrophic.

4096
03:37:23,891 --> 03:37:28,551
21 sloths arrived from Guyana to unequipped Orlando warehouse

4097
03:37:28,551 --> 03:37:29,991
on International Drive.

4098
03:37:29,991 --> 03:37:32,331
Actually, it was an Orange County warehouse

4099
03:37:32,331 --> 03:37:34,391
that lacked running water and electricity.

4100
03:37:34,391 --> 03:37:36,551
Space heaters that were powered by extension cords

4101
03:37:36,551 --> 03:37:39,991
failed overnight after a tripping fuze and 21 sloths

4102
03:37:39,991 --> 03:37:41,707
died from that cold stunt.

4103
03:37:41,707 --> 03:37:43,991
As it turns out, they starved to death

4104
03:37:43,991 --> 03:37:46,807
because they have a microbe in their belly

4105
03:37:46,807 --> 03:37:48,871
that helps them digest their food

4106
03:37:48,871 --> 03:37:53,710
and that microbe dies in the cold.

4107
03:37:53,710 --> 03:37:57,359
They literally starve to death in their bodies,

4108
03:37:57,359 --> 03:38:00,359
even though they have food.

4109
03:38:00,543 --> 03:38:04,351
The second shipment of sloths arrived from Peru.

4110
03:38:04,351 --> 03:38:06,959
Given they were dead upon arrival.

4111
03:38:06,959 --> 03:38:09,751
And remaining eight were emancipated and subsequently

4112
03:38:09,751 --> 03:38:10,261
died.

4113
03:38:10,261 --> 03:38:13,275
Raising the initial death toll to 31.

4114
03:38:13,275 --> 03:38:16,257
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission

4115
03:38:16,257 --> 03:38:19,857
inspected the facility in spring, summer, 2025.

4116
03:38:20,375 --> 03:38:25,175
They had the opportunity to inspect the facility.

4117
03:38:25,255 --> 03:38:27,771
They know the cages were too small.

4118
03:38:27,771 --> 03:38:29,671
They issued a verbal Warning.

4119
03:38:29,671 --> 03:38:31,501
A verbal Warning.

4120
03:38:31,501 --> 03:38:34,271
Before closing the initial review.

4121
03:38:34,271 --> 03:38:37,871
There was continued fatalities from their.

4122
03:38:38,414 --> 03:38:39,831
New shipments arrived because they

4123
03:38:39,831 --> 03:38:42,110
were continued to be offered permits

4124
03:38:42,110 --> 03:38:44,411
through fish and wildlife.

4125
03:39:01,864 --> 03:39:04,239
Additional deaths mounted in some of the specialized care

4126
03:39:04,239 --> 03:39:04,248
that we're seeing them now getting in appropriate setting.

4127
03:39:04,248 --> 03:39:04,951
More animals perish from malnourished, vitamin

4128
03:39:04,951 --> 03:39:07,431
deficiencies, linked to improper diets

4129
03:39:07,431 --> 03:39:10,562
and bringing the total recorded fatalities past 50.

4130
03:39:10,562 --> 03:39:13,211
And I think this is probably an undercount based

4131
03:39:13,211 --> 03:39:17,767
on what we know about shipping and the actual process of coming

4132
03:39:17,767 --> 03:39:23,767
to the United States and crates as a sensitive animal.

4133
03:39:24,151 --> 03:39:26,959
The intervention in zoo transfer happened.

4134
03:39:26,959 --> 03:39:33,559
I think we were starting to get the news by then.

4135
03:40:29,271 --> 03:40:31,671
That was reactive enforcement.

4136
03:40:32,831 --> 03:40:33,719
Limited local tools.

4137
03:40:33,719 --> 03:40:35,835
That we know we have under our existing code.

4138
03:40:35,835 --> 03:40:38,119
When we look at the layers of government and trying

4139
03:40:38,119 --> 03:40:40,431
to make sure we're addressing things that we can

4140
03:40:40,431 --> 03:40:42,671
under us because I know we don't want

4141
03:40:42,671 --> 03:40:45,756
to do an exercise at this time, we

4142
03:40:45,756 --> 03:40:47,911
want to do things that are actionable.

4143
03:40:47,911 --> 03:40:52,239
The federal government does have a key role in what could be,

4144
03:40:52,239 --> 03:40:55,621
I believe, making some moves from Washington

4145
03:40:55,621 --> 03:40:58,641
to prohibit the import of exotic wildlife.

4146
03:40:58,641 --> 03:41:01,511
That is not necessarily on the horizon.

4147
03:41:01,511 --> 03:41:03,537
But I think we continue to pressure

4148
03:41:03,537 --> 03:41:07,310
our local representatives that go to DC

4149
03:41:07,310 --> 03:41:12,510
and trying to get movement on that type of federal act.

4150
03:41:12,510 --> 03:41:15,301
The focus is not federal government

4151
03:41:15,301 --> 03:41:17,811
doesn't focus on the local land use compatibility.

4152
03:41:17,811 --> 03:41:20,253
That's where we come in and of course

4153
03:41:20,253 --> 03:41:22,183
we have heard about the failings of FWC.

4154
03:41:22,183 --> 03:41:26,241
They are the responsible party for captive wildlife permits

4155
03:41:26,241 --> 03:41:30,331
and the state's structure, the rulemaking that

4156
03:41:30,331 --> 03:41:34,991
has been put in place and the categorization of wildlife

4157
03:41:34,991 --> 03:41:36,491
failed these animals.

4158
03:41:36,491 --> 03:41:41,310
They are not required to notice us that these animals were

4159
03:41:41,310 --> 03:41:41,681
being imported.

4160
03:41:41,681 --> 03:41:45,319
If it was alligators, they would have had to notice us.

4161
03:41:45,319 --> 03:41:47,357
But this is something that at the state level

4162
03:41:47,357 --> 03:41:49,681
we need to continue to articulate and advocate

4163
03:41:49,681 --> 03:41:55,510
for making sure that we do a better job of getting in place

4164
03:41:55,510 --> 03:41:57,177
rulemaking from the state to communicate

4165
03:41:57,177 --> 03:42:01,977
with local governments on this type of use.

4166
03:42:03,991 --> 03:42:05,514
Why should we act?

4167
03:42:05,514 --> 03:42:07,951
I just gave you the federal and the state background.

4168
03:42:07,951 --> 03:42:11,457
The important part of why Orange County needs to do something

4169
03:42:11,457 --> 03:42:16,211
is first of all we do need land use zoning compatibility.

4170
03:42:16,211 --> 03:42:17,723
Licensing.

4171
03:42:17,723 --> 03:42:18,223
Location.

4172
03:42:18,223 --> 03:42:21,971
And we also know what it's like to deal with community impacts.

4173
03:42:21,971 --> 03:42:25,914
When things happen with our beloved animals,

4174
03:42:25,914 --> 03:42:28,353
we are the calls that are made.

4175
03:42:28,353 --> 03:42:29,791
We get the calls at our office.

4176
03:42:29,791 --> 03:42:32,551
And I think that gives us the unique perspective.

4177
03:42:32,551 --> 03:42:35,551
Additionally understanding that we received

4178
03:42:36,551 --> 03:42:39,115
76.7 million visitors annually and we

4179
03:42:39,115 --> 03:42:40,707
are a destination that's considered

4180
03:42:40,707 --> 03:42:42,381
a top notch destination.

4181
03:42:42,381 --> 03:42:45,127
One of the beautiful places to visit.

4182
03:42:45,127 --> 03:42:47,271
And there's no assurance that's given out

4183
03:42:47,271 --> 03:42:51,441
to the families traveling here that when they come and see

4184
03:42:51,441 --> 03:42:56,841
something in a tourist facility, it is something that

4185
03:42:57,111 --> 03:43:01,311
should be ethical and treating all involved

4186
03:43:01,679 --> 03:43:04,790
with the utmost dignity.

4187
03:43:04,543 --> 03:43:07,263
I have heard from many people that

4188
03:43:07,263 --> 03:43:09,151
believe what happened at Sloths World

4189
03:43:09,151 --> 03:43:13,407
has cast a dark shadow and that tourism industry.

4190
03:43:13,407 --> 03:43:16,427
We need to make sure we're correcting that and doing

4191
03:43:16,427 --> 03:43:17,844
the signaling that we're not going

4192
03:43:17,844 --> 03:43:20,151
to allow that to happen again.

4193
03:43:20,151 --> 03:43:22,374
So, there's several different options

4194
03:43:22,374 --> 03:43:26,503
to discuss that we may be able to hear from a little bit.

4195
03:43:26,503 --> 03:43:29,271
This is just a preliminary discussion of it obviously.

4196
03:43:29,271 --> 03:43:33,141
But commercial use of exotic wildlife in exhibitions, this

4197
03:43:33,141 --> 03:43:35,571
is something that has been used in other jurisdictions.

4198
03:43:35,571 --> 03:43:39,257
A lot of jurisdictions across the country.

4199
03:43:39,257 --> 03:43:43,331
An effort to try to prevent circuses

4200
03:43:43,331 --> 03:43:46,921
that were using animals and wildlife cruelly.

4201
03:43:46,921 --> 03:43:49,921
These are still animal cruelty.

4202
03:43:50,223 --> 03:43:52,644
But in the stationary business.

4203
03:43:52,644 --> 03:43:55,440
It's requires regulatory oversight.

4204
03:43:55,431 --> 03:43:58,151
The other one that I would like to discuss or find out

4205
03:43:58,151 --> 03:44:01,295
if there's options to be able to address

4206
03:44:01,295 --> 03:44:03,681
are the public contact encounters.

4207
03:44:03,681 --> 03:44:07,562
There's no reason for a wild animal that came directly

4208
03:44:07,562 --> 03:44:11,991
out of the top of a forest in Kiana

4209
03:44:11,991 --> 03:44:16,371
to be handled by a class of sixth graders.

4210
03:44:16,371 --> 03:44:19,127
We know that humans can get diseases from wild animals.

4211
03:44:19,127 --> 03:44:22,455
We know that humans give diseases to wild animals.

4212
03:44:22,455 --> 03:44:24,419
And we understand that what makes them wild

4213
03:44:24,419 --> 03:44:25,844
is that they stay in the wild.

4214
03:44:25,844 --> 03:44:28,451
So the importance of that as a business model,

4215
03:44:28,451 --> 03:44:29,896
not talking about education.

4216
03:44:29,896 --> 03:44:32,671
We're not talking about specifically exemptions

4217
03:44:32,671 --> 03:44:38,710
that we can see for truly accredited educational purposes,

4218
03:44:38,221 --> 03:44:41,513
this is about entertainment for profit.

4219
03:44:41,513 --> 03:44:44,711
One of the things we would do is of course

4220
03:44:44,711 --> 03:44:47,631
maintain exemptions for accredited institutions.

4221
03:44:47,631 --> 03:44:51,267
So zoning approach common this is all very preliminary.

4222
03:44:51,267 --> 03:44:54,710
I know we are, we have an incredible team

4223
03:44:54,710 --> 03:44:55,649
in our zoning division.

4224
03:44:55,649 --> 03:44:58,911
I have said this a million times and I'll say it again.

4225
03:44:58,911 --> 03:45:03,911
I believe our code compliance officers are unsung heroes

4226
03:45:03,911 --> 03:45:06,955
for being out there in the world with their badge and a notebook

4227
03:45:06,955 --> 03:45:09,211
and they don't necessarily have all the tools

4228
03:45:09,211 --> 03:45:13,891
to be able to intervene when something this, I

4229
03:45:13,891 --> 03:45:17,511
think catastrophic happens in a location that

4230
03:45:17,511 --> 03:45:20,510
wasn't permitted to be used.

4231
03:45:20,510 --> 03:45:24,457
Omitted permit and use tables potentially creating definition

4232
03:45:24,457 --> 03:45:26,591
for something that may be prohibited

4233
03:45:26,591 --> 03:45:29,311
and then non-conforming status for existing,

4234
03:45:29,311 --> 03:45:32,911
if they do fall out of that education exemption.

4235
03:45:32,911 --> 03:45:38,251
And then the other avenue might be business licensing.

4236
03:45:38,251 --> 03:45:39,637
The idea that we didn't know what

4237
03:45:39,637 --> 03:45:43,731
was going on in this business, in this location.

4238
03:45:43,731 --> 03:45:45,636
Because they didn't come in and tell us.

4239
03:45:45,636 --> 03:45:47,959
This was a bad actor and they didn't

4240
03:45:47,959 --> 03:45:51,888
disclose what they were going to be using that space for a.

4241
03:45:51,888 --> 03:45:57,271
Well, you don't come potentially if the applicant name

4242
03:45:57,271 --> 03:46:01,279
is sloth world, you know, is there a mechanism by which we

4243
03:46:01,279 --> 03:46:03,735
can require a zoning clearance before the issuance

4244
03:46:03,735 --> 03:46:05,287
of a business license?

4245
03:46:05,287 --> 03:46:09,247
Is there the ability to have some kind of code of compliance?

4246
03:46:09,247 --> 03:46:11,305
Any alert system if you will.

4247
03:46:11,305 --> 03:46:13,101
One of the most devastating photographs

4248
03:46:13,101 --> 03:46:14,684
that came out of these last few months

4249
03:46:14,684 --> 03:46:18,551
was a picture of our code enforcement officers

4250
03:46:18,551 --> 03:46:21,687
that they took, of empty crates or maybe

4251
03:46:21,687 --> 03:46:26,487
it was somebody at FWC, of empty crates

4252
03:46:26,491 --> 03:46:28,470
outside the warehouse, that indicated

4253
03:46:28,470 --> 03:46:29,511
there may be animals inside.

4254
03:46:29,511 --> 03:46:31,671
Having those kinds of indicators,

4255
03:46:31,671 --> 03:46:34,257
would there be an opportunity for a better enforcement

4256
03:46:34,257 --> 03:46:35,391
activity?

4257
03:46:35,391 --> 03:46:37,791
And then administrative enforcement

4258
03:46:38,710 --> 03:46:40,970
looks like fees and fines.

4259
03:46:40,970 --> 03:46:45,311
The idea of being held to some de minimis fee

4260
03:46:45,311 --> 03:46:47,921
after killing dozens of beautiful animals

4261
03:46:47,921 --> 03:46:52,721
that were brought here without having any recourse

4262
03:46:54,623 --> 03:46:57,230
is a huge problem.

4263
03:46:57,127 --> 03:47:01,271
If somebody is using something and they're not

4264
03:47:01,271 --> 03:47:04,173
zoned to be using that then we need

4265
03:47:04,173 --> 03:47:08,271
to look at if there's an opportunity to have something

4266
03:47:08,271 --> 03:47:11,911
more enforceable and then as a background,

4267
03:47:11,911 --> 03:47:14,299
I don't want to get too far in the weeds

4268
03:47:14,299 --> 03:47:19,374
but there are jurisdictions all over the country and some

4269
03:47:19,374 --> 03:47:25,374
in the state that do limited restriction of public contact.

4270
03:47:26,151 --> 03:47:28,991
And some of those, like zoning regulations and zoning

4271
03:47:28,991 --> 03:47:34,991
ordinances and some of them are specific to specific species.

4272
03:47:35,391 --> 03:47:39,191
I would request we do something for wildlife that

4273
03:47:39,191 --> 03:47:41,951
could include the species that are listed in some

4274
03:47:41,951 --> 03:47:43,351
of these other jurisdictions.

4275
03:47:43,351 --> 03:47:46,211
But of course this loss of which we understand

4276
03:47:46,211 --> 03:47:47,396
have a unique sensitivity.

4277
03:47:47,396 --> 03:47:50,937
And this leads me to why this loss needs specifically

4278
03:47:50,937 --> 03:47:52,431
needs special protection.

4279
03:47:52,431 --> 03:47:56,721
These animals are a wild animal that actually responds

4280
03:47:56,721 --> 03:47:58,911
to stressors by shutting down.

4281
03:47:58,911 --> 03:48:02,767
Their entire metabolism shuts down when they are stressed.

4282
03:48:02,767 --> 03:48:05,791
Cold stress stops their digestive system.

4283
03:48:05,791 --> 03:48:11,791
Handling can affect their entire bodily functions and they are

4284
03:48:11,891 --> 03:48:15,791
susceptible to so much of the environmental concerns that

4285
03:48:15,791 --> 03:48:18,324
happen in a handling --

4286
03:48:18,324 --> 03:48:20,310
commercial handling business.

4287
03:48:20,310 --> 03:48:23,463
Of some tourists believe that handling them shows love,

4288
03:48:23,463 --> 03:48:26,171
just know that if they're holding their hands up,

4289
03:48:26,171 --> 03:48:27,991
that's because they're scared.

4290
03:48:27,991 --> 03:48:31,527
I really believe the people who bought tickets ahead of time

4291
03:48:31,527 --> 03:48:33,351
and wanted to come to sloths world

4292
03:48:33,351 --> 03:48:34,771
commonly love these animals.

4293
03:48:34,771 --> 03:48:38,521
It wasn't because they were bad actors or they had malintent.

4294
03:48:38,521 --> 03:48:43,401
I think the reason why they did that is because maybe they

4295
03:48:43,401 --> 03:48:44,151
didn't understand.

4296
03:48:44,151 --> 03:48:47,210
So I do believe that educational opportunities exist,

4297
03:48:47,210 --> 03:48:51,251
but sloths in particular are a sensitive species

4298
03:48:51,251 --> 03:48:52,663
that need special protection.

4299
03:48:52,663 --> 03:48:56,567
The issue with the wild capture, once again,

4300
03:48:56,567 --> 03:48:58,639
I think we have to continue to advocate.

4301
03:48:58,639 --> 03:49:03,204
So it's important to know when they are pulled out

4302
03:49:03,204 --> 03:49:05,591
of the woods, a captive breeding program,

4303
03:49:05,591 --> 03:49:07,927
that you're pulling adults that may

4304
03:49:07,927 --> 03:49:11,451
be right in the middle of reproduction.

4305
03:49:11,451 --> 03:49:14,451
You're interrupting their reproduction cycle.

4306
03:49:15,910 --> 03:49:18,510
That is taking a toll on the overall mortality

4307
03:49:18,510 --> 03:49:20,991
period we understand transport is deadly for them.

4308
03:49:20,991 --> 03:49:24,390
Very few actually arrive when there is a transport.

4309
03:49:24,390 --> 03:49:26,271
Those impacts aren't even contemplated today.

4310
03:49:26,271 --> 03:49:28,391
It's important to understand.

4311
03:49:28,391 --> 03:49:30,903
Here's a list of possible exemptions.

4312
03:49:30,903 --> 03:49:34,521
Of course we have our accredited agencies.

4313
03:49:34,521 --> 03:49:37,719
Such as the great people that took in our surviving

4314
03:49:37,719 --> 03:49:39,287
sloths from sloths world.

4315
03:49:39,287 --> 03:49:42,931
And then of course licensed wildlife rehabilitations,

4316
03:49:42,931 --> 03:49:46,439
certified veterinary care, it's a different certification

4317
03:49:46,439 --> 03:49:48,431
for this type of wildlife and the person that

4318
03:49:48,431 --> 03:49:50,287
was listed on the FWC application

4319
03:49:50,287 --> 03:49:56,486
for the permit for sloth world was not the kind of veterinarian

4320
03:49:56,486 --> 03:49:58,950
that needed to be hired.

4321
03:49:58,950 --> 03:50:00,903
And then of course for the educational institutions,

4322
03:50:00,903 --> 03:50:05,471
they need to be able to do the outreach that would potentially

4323
03:50:05,471 --> 03:50:08,459
include something, that could have a exhibit that

4324
03:50:08,459 --> 03:50:09,501
wouldn't be disqualified.

4325
03:50:09,501 --> 03:50:12,737
And then of course some conservation organization.

4326
03:50:12,737 --> 03:50:15,720
And import distinction between some

4327
03:50:15,720 --> 03:50:19,791
of the educational conservation and need for those programs.

4328
03:50:19,791 --> 03:50:21,791
And commercial entertainment.

4329
03:50:22,731 --> 03:50:24,823
Sloth world, was an example of something

4330
03:50:24,823 --> 03:50:26,591
that was being put into place specifically

4331
03:50:26,591 --> 03:50:28,151
for commercial entertainment.

4332
03:50:28,151 --> 03:50:29,671
It was for tickets.

4333
03:50:29,671 --> 03:50:33,131
Much like an exhibition on anything.

4334
03:50:33,131 --> 03:50:36,531
The idea that these beings didn't get any specialized

4335
03:50:36,531 --> 03:50:40,399
treatment for being special is a little terrifying

4336
03:50:40,399 --> 03:50:44,111
and as an oversight body, we need

4337
03:50:44,111 --> 03:50:47,711
to find opportunities to address that.

4338
03:50:49,911 --> 03:50:53,601
If this board feels like this is a worthwhile endeavor,

4339
03:50:53,601 --> 03:50:56,616
we will seek guidance from our county

4340
03:50:56,616 --> 03:51:00,591
Attorney's office to review our state exemptions.

4341
03:51:00,591 --> 03:51:02,991
And constitutional issues including

4342
03:51:03,441 --> 03:51:05,687
some of the grandfathering of existing businesses.

4343
03:51:05,687 --> 03:51:07,891
I don't know of any right now.

4344
03:51:07,891 --> 03:51:11,361
I don't think it hurts to say that we're not penalizing

4345
03:51:11,361 --> 03:51:13,650
good actors out there.

4346
03:51:13,650 --> 03:51:15,851
We're trying to make sure we're preventing another tragedy.

4347
03:51:15,851 --> 03:51:19,244
Public benefits, I think everything we do here

4348
03:51:19,244 --> 03:51:21,139
should be able to be justified by saying how

4349
03:51:21,139 --> 03:51:22,531
this is making a difference.

4350
03:51:22,531 --> 03:51:25,306
First of all, animal welfare is a great concern

4351
03:51:25,306 --> 03:51:28,462
to almost everybody that I know and for people

4352
03:51:28,462 --> 03:51:33,262
who don't believe they are animal welfare advocates,

4353
03:51:33,497 --> 03:51:37,159
they oftentimes understand the public safety issue

4354
03:51:37,159 --> 03:51:39,951
and we have a potential business that

4355
03:51:39,951 --> 03:51:43,969
doesn't care about the lives of the animals that are there.

4356
03:51:43,969 --> 03:51:45,344
That means they don't really care

4357
03:51:45,344 --> 03:51:47,191
about the lives of the visitors either.

4358
03:51:47,191 --> 03:51:50,791
They are subjecting everybody to potential safety issues.

4359
03:51:50,791 --> 03:51:53,261
Responsible tourism is what our brand is.

4360
03:51:53,261 --> 03:51:56,400
We are a welcoming home a family friendly,

4361
03:51:56,400 --> 03:51:58,684
forward facing county and region.

4362
03:51:58,684 --> 03:52:02,287
And we want to make sure that people come here

4363
03:52:02,287 --> 03:52:04,171
with the knowledge that they are going

4364
03:52:04,171 --> 03:52:06,791
to visit a place that takes really good care of its people

4365
03:52:06,791 --> 03:52:07,551
and its wildlife.

4366
03:52:07,551 --> 03:52:09,951
And then of course regulatory clarity.

4367
03:52:09,951 --> 03:52:12,951
There is an unbelievable, I felt when

4368
03:52:12,951 --> 03:52:17,831
I was reading through all the documents in this case that,

4369
03:52:17,831 --> 03:52:21,231
how did we not stop this?

4370
03:52:21,231 --> 03:52:26,151
There's just a blind spot at almost every level

4371
03:52:26,151 --> 03:52:27,863
that allowed it.

4372
03:52:27,863 --> 03:52:31,290
The timeline, I know there's no magic wand

4373
03:52:31,290 --> 03:52:32,991
and I am a patient commissioner.

4374
03:52:32,991 --> 03:52:38,144
As long as I have support on why our board and staff and try

4375
03:52:38,144 --> 03:52:40,671
to make sure we're trying to do something that has meaning.

4376
03:52:40,671 --> 03:52:42,305
It's not just for show.

4377
03:52:42,305 --> 03:52:46,510
We want to make sure we include the public.

4378
03:52:46,510 --> 03:52:47,879
That's its own process.

4379
03:52:47,879 --> 03:52:50,657
This is sort of the final piece.

4380
03:52:50,657 --> 03:52:52,910
Asking for support.

4381
03:52:52,910 --> 03:52:55,151
Asking questions of the county Attorney's office

4382
03:52:55,151 --> 03:52:57,999
at how this might look and then potentially seeing

4383
03:52:57,999 --> 03:52:59,997
if we can return to put something

4384
03:52:59,997 --> 03:53:03,567
in place that will assure residents for years

4385
03:53:03,567 --> 03:53:06,815
to come that we don't allow this type of cruelty

4386
03:53:06,815 --> 03:53:08,471
in Orange County.

4387
03:53:08,471 --> 03:53:09,546
That's at.

4388
03:53:09,546 --> 03:53:10,921
>> Thank you Commissioner Wilson.

4389
03:53:10,921 --> 03:53:14,311
We'll go to the board for questions, comments.

4390
03:53:14,311 --> 03:53:16,311
Commissioner Uribe.

4391
03:53:16,591 --> 03:53:19,261
>> First of all thank you for doing so much research on this.

4392
03:53:19,261 --> 03:53:20,599
This has been phenomenal.

4393
03:53:20,599 --> 03:53:23,110
I think we all agree.

4394
03:53:23,110 --> 03:53:27,670
We know no animal, no anybody should suffer.

4395
03:53:27,670 --> 03:53:29,743
I will say a couple of things that I worry about.

4396
03:53:29,743 --> 03:53:31,470
And Jennifer is here.

4397
03:53:31,470 --> 03:53:33,976
Of course we all remember the tragedy of the fireworks

4398
03:53:33,976 --> 03:53:37,460
in the warehouse that blew up and all of those young people

4399
03:53:37,460 --> 03:53:37,960
died.

4400
03:53:37,960 --> 03:53:41,710
They weren't supposed to have fireworks in a building.

4401
03:53:41,710 --> 03:53:49,591
And so it leaves me to -- how do we make sure we are vigilant.

4402
03:53:49,591 --> 03:53:53,271
Clearly multiple people new fireworks were going on there.

4403
03:53:53,271 --> 03:53:57,471
There's companies locally that we're getting fireworks

4404
03:53:59,326 --> 03:54:00,156
through their.

4405
03:54:00,156 --> 03:54:04,956
And the company never had a business license.

4406
03:54:05,431 --> 03:54:09,139
100%, we need to put some regulations in there.

4407
03:54:09,139 --> 03:54:12,191
We need to see what that looks like.

4408
03:54:12,191 --> 03:54:14,463
I just hope we can also have a mechanism where

4409
03:54:14,463 --> 03:54:17,751
we continue to tell people, if you see something,

4410
03:54:17,751 --> 03:54:18,903
say something.

4411
03:54:18,903 --> 03:54:24,303
Because, all of these tragedies, obviously people involved new,

4412
03:54:25,359 --> 03:54:28,679
but no one bothered to say anything until it basically

4413
03:54:28,679 --> 03:54:29,563
all came about.

4414
03:54:29,563 --> 03:54:32,161
The only other question I have is,

4415
03:54:32,161 --> 03:54:35,139
one, like this particular one was in the city,

4416
03:54:35,139 --> 03:54:39,271
is it required to have a county business license if it

4417
03:54:39,271 --> 03:54:41,731
has a city business license?

4418
03:54:41,731 --> 03:54:42,931
>> It's a great question.

4419
03:54:42,931 --> 03:54:45,331
We've talked about this.

4420
03:54:45,411 --> 03:54:49,488
That sloth world storefront was in the city of Orlando,

4421
03:54:49,488 --> 03:54:51,831
but the warehouse was in the county.

4422
03:54:51,831 --> 03:54:55,831
And knowing that we have great partnerships with the city,

4423
03:54:55,831 --> 03:54:59,377
also you know, talking through this as part of the stakeholder

4424
03:54:59,377 --> 03:55:04,111
portion of discussions, having some understanding of what they

4425
03:55:04,111 --> 03:55:08,161
would want to participate in as maybe collaborating

4426
03:55:08,161 --> 03:55:10,631
for something that has consistency

4427
03:55:10,631 --> 03:55:12,631
across jurisdictions.

4428
03:55:13,391 --> 03:55:16,815
>> I don't know if we currently have any zoning that would allow

4429
03:55:16,815 --> 03:55:20,676
exotic wildlife to be permitted currently in Orange County.

4430
03:55:20,676 --> 03:55:21,522
Do we?

4431
03:55:21,522 --> 03:55:25,817
Or do we just not talk about it, is it not listed?

4432
03:55:25,817 --> 03:55:29,811
Do we have any exotic wildlife zoning in Orange County,

4433
03:55:29,811 --> 03:55:31,811
right now?

4434
03:55:32,271 --> 03:55:34,671
>> It's not specifically exempted.

4435
03:55:34,777 --> 03:55:38,191
>> So, Commissioner, let me refer to my notes.

4436
03:55:38,191 --> 03:55:41,791
I believe it was in 2015 ish.

4437
03:55:42,276 --> 03:55:47,254
We used to have a category for exotic animals in our use table

4438
03:55:47,254 --> 03:55:48,894
and we took it out altogether and I

4439
03:55:48,894 --> 03:55:51,899
think it's because we just defer to the state

4440
03:55:51,899 --> 03:55:54,191
because they're the ones that ultimately regulate them.

4441
03:55:54,191 --> 03:55:57,191
We don't currently have anything.

4442
03:55:58,710 --> 03:56:01,710
There's no permission or prohibition.

4443
03:56:04,140 --> 03:56:05,431
>> My follow up question would be,

4444
03:56:05,431 --> 03:56:08,615
and maybe this is for Georgina, if we do some co compliance,

4445
03:56:08,615 --> 03:56:11,551
can we put some teeth in it.

4446
03:56:11,551 --> 03:56:14,602
There was a verbal discussion, but could there

4447
03:56:14,602 --> 03:56:16,144
be kind of like the health department

4448
03:56:16,144 --> 03:56:18,465
on restaurants, where we shut it down?

4449
03:56:18,465 --> 03:56:21,391
I mean, do we have the ability to do something

4450
03:56:21,391 --> 03:56:23,951
when there's a clear violation?

4451
03:56:23,951 --> 03:56:25,721
>> I think what we're going to do,

4452
03:56:25,721 --> 03:56:29,321
we're listening to discussion today, (indiscernible).

4453
03:56:51,680 --> 03:56:52,485
As it relates to wild exotic life.

4454
03:56:52,485 --> 03:56:52,491
Consistent with our charter, our office

4455
03:56:52,491 --> 03:56:52,504
is always saying you guys have the powers that are given to you

4456
03:56:52,504 --> 03:56:52,514
or that are not consistent with state or general law.

4457
03:56:52,514 --> 03:56:53,889
F powers are in the Constitution.

4458
03:56:53,889 --> 03:56:55,344
They have the regulatory power.

4459
03:56:55,344 --> 03:56:58,891
It's going to be difficult for us to step in and make

4460
03:56:58,891 --> 03:57:01,891
some sort of regulatory decisions related

4461
03:57:01,891 --> 03:57:04,891
to the importing or licensing.

4462
03:57:05,411 --> 03:57:08,431
So we're going to have to stay with our local powers.

4463
03:57:08,431 --> 03:57:10,468
Which is in land use.

4464
03:57:10,468 --> 03:57:13,471
We're going to have to do a little listening

4465
03:57:13,471 --> 03:57:14,719
to the discussion today.

4466
03:57:14,719 --> 03:57:19,303
But we need to know if there's interest in consensus.

4467
03:57:19,303 --> 03:57:23,879
We have to do that research and come back and either explain

4468
03:57:23,879 --> 03:57:27,871
how the process works, because there's also different levels

4469
03:57:27,871 --> 03:57:29,535
that the state gets.

4470
03:57:29,535 --> 03:57:32,710
Class one, class two, class three.

4471
03:57:32,710 --> 03:57:34,311
Unfortunately are not 1 or 2.

4472
03:57:34,311 --> 03:57:37,519
That is another fact that is a unique situation.

4473
03:57:37,519 --> 03:57:40,864
We do get notice from the state on class one

4474
03:57:40,864 --> 03:57:43,864
or class two I think.

4475
03:58:05,499 --> 03:58:10,384
>> If it was a gator we would have gotten notice.

4476
03:58:10,384 --> 03:58:12,342
>> We'll have to do that research and come back

4477
03:58:12,342 --> 03:58:12,352
and figure out where the board consensus lies or what

4478
03:58:12,352 --> 03:58:12,362
you're able -- >> I would support the most intensive

4479
03:58:12,362 --> 03:58:12,370
opportunity for us as a county to do.

4480
03:58:12,370 --> 03:58:14,995
And secondly I always comment my concern is always enforcement.

4481
03:58:14,995 --> 03:58:17,661
Whatever your findings do accomplish

4482
03:58:17,661 --> 03:58:21,759
of what we're capable of as a body and a government to do,

4483
03:58:21,759 --> 03:58:24,919
but again, how is that enforcement

4484
03:58:24,919 --> 03:58:27,319
able to be reassured.

4485
03:58:28,431 --> 03:58:30,691
>> I think giving you the clearer picture,

4486
03:58:30,691 --> 03:58:33,102
you started saying this is an actor who did not get

4487
03:58:33,102 --> 03:58:33,977
the business license.

4488
03:58:33,977 --> 03:58:36,719
We need to bring the information to you

4489
03:58:36,719 --> 03:58:40,570
about how it's supposed to work so

4490
03:58:40,570 --> 03:58:43,344
that it would have triggered an inspection by the fire Marshal.

4491
03:58:43,344 --> 03:58:45,991
But as you noted, at the very beginning,

4492
03:58:45,991 --> 03:58:50,137
this was an actor who didn't do what they were supposed to do.

4493
03:58:50,137 --> 03:58:53,407
It wasn't on what they called high alert for explosives.

4494
03:58:53,407 --> 03:58:55,110
We had fireworks.

4495
03:58:55,110 --> 03:58:56,203
All right.

4496
03:58:56,203 --> 03:58:56,703
Will.

4497
03:58:56,703 --> 03:58:59,487
Hopefully you guys can find everything you can.

4498
03:58:59,487 --> 03:59:03,170
I think this is a great effort to do.

4499
03:59:03,170 --> 03:59:05,417
We should move forward.

4500
03:59:05,691 --> 03:59:07,691
I agree.

4501
03:59:08,400 --> 03:59:09,891
>> Thank you commissioner Uribe.

4502
03:59:09,891 --> 03:59:12,891
Commissioner Cordero or commissioner Scott?

4503
03:59:13,991 --> 03:59:15,681
>> I have to say thank you for this.

4504
03:59:15,681 --> 03:59:18,810
This process and research.

4505
03:59:40,776 --> 03:59:41,734
>> I'm in full support.

4506
03:59:41,734 --> 03:59:41,737
>> Thank you.

4507
03:59:41,737 --> 03:59:41,740
I am too.

4508
03:59:41,740 --> 03:59:41,742
District five.

4509
03:59:41,742 --> 03:59:41,750
You need to double down you didn't need

4510
03:59:41,750 --> 03:59:41,755
to convince me on anything.

4511
03:59:41,755 --> 03:59:41,764
What I do also want to draw attention to

4512
03:59:41,764 --> 03:59:41,771
is we talk about establishing some form

4513
03:59:41,771 --> 03:59:41,774
of regulatory framework.

4514
03:59:41,774 --> 03:59:41,782
One of the things we need to consider

4515
03:59:41,782 --> 03:59:44,157
is how we actually do and I'll go back to the topic of TT

4516
03:59:44,157 --> 03:59:48,957
because visit Orlando, despite laws already having died,

4517
03:59:52,503 --> 03:59:56,103
spent our public money on advertisements

4518
03:59:56,991 --> 04:00:01,535
for sloths world, which resulted in some of those advanced sales.

4519
04:00:01,535 --> 04:00:06,351
Had this been just a one off, where it only happened once,

4520
04:00:06,351 --> 04:00:09,791
with one animal organization, but it hasn't.

4521
04:00:09,791 --> 04:00:12,463
It actually also happened in 2024.

4522
04:00:12,463 --> 04:00:15,463
With Wild Florida as well.

4523
04:00:15,848 --> 04:00:19,328
Where we had the use of our TT funds

4524
04:00:19,328 --> 04:00:21,871
being spent on an animal organization

4525
04:00:21,871 --> 04:00:24,271
that had animal welfare.

4526
04:00:24,871 --> 04:00:27,871
Accusations and cases against it.

4527
04:00:28,391 --> 04:00:31,531
And I think we owe our constituents and taxpayers

4528
04:00:31,531 --> 04:00:35,331
the due diligence to make sure that with our public money

4529
04:00:35,331 --> 04:00:41,931
we are not promoting one of the most grotesque crimes that

4530
04:00:42,251 --> 04:00:46,970
is severely under punished in our justice system.

4531
04:00:46,970 --> 04:00:50,831
I do think we need to move towards some type of oversight

4532
04:00:50,831 --> 04:00:54,631
with regard to how that money is spent.

4533
04:00:54,631 --> 04:00:56,840
That's aside from it.

4534
04:00:56,840 --> 04:00:57,801
I think this report, district five

4535
04:00:57,801 --> 04:00:59,551
will submit something with regard to that.

4536
04:00:59,551 --> 04:01:03,351
And I also fully support you, Commissioner Wilson.

4537
04:01:03,351 --> 04:01:04,636
>> Thank you so much.

4538
04:01:04,636 --> 04:01:09,436
So, just making sure, are there any --

4539
04:01:46,864 --> 04:01:49,489
>> Honestly, it would be a great holiday gift for us to present

4540
04:01:49,489 --> 04:01:49,500
Orange County, to say that we're never going to allow something

4541
04:01:49,500 --> 04:01:49,505
like this to happen again.

4542
04:01:49,505 --> 04:01:49,514
I just want to make sure, for clarification purposes,

4543
04:01:49,514 --> 04:01:49,523
the FWC wildlife permits are for that captive import.

4544
04:01:49,523 --> 04:01:51,648
But what we're looking at is the regulatory schemes

4545
04:01:51,648 --> 04:01:53,111
that we already work under.

4546
04:01:53,111 --> 04:01:56,691
Which are our land use, zoning, business license.

4547
04:01:56,691 --> 04:01:58,691
Not the import.

4548
04:01:59,280 --> 04:01:59,528
>> Yes.

4549
04:01:59,528 --> 04:02:02,825
The way the language is, they have all.

4550
04:02:02,825 --> 04:02:07,170
We have to figure out what that means.

4551
04:02:07,170 --> 04:02:09,440
>> I think there's a lot of other jurisdictions.

4552
04:02:09,440 --> 04:02:10,697
Thank you so much.

4553
04:02:10,697 --> 04:02:11,957
I appreciate it.

4554
04:02:11,957 --> 04:02:13,977
Have a good lunch.

4555
04:02:13,977 --> 04:02:15,840
>> Thank you.

4556
04:02:15,840 --> 04:02:15,822
Happy lunch.

4557
04:02:15,822 --> 04:02:18,222
See you at two.