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portal and parcel view
mr whips
all right
cool awesome well thank you guys for
having me um today
what i'm gonna go over is um our open
data portal which we launched last year
um
but given everything going on it kind of
you know uh it was kind of one of those
check marks that we did but what i
really want to do is demonstrate what
its purpose is and what its capability
is and then i want to segue that into um
one of the the new applications that
we're working on to kind of replace some
existing applications that we have
related to gis and partials and whatnot
so
um
really and i'll be
going through this but um this this
first open data portal that we have
right here and this is the home page of
it that i'm showing on the screen here
and this
is a link that's currently on our
county's website
that anybody can access and get to it's
under the it section
in
segways into the gis section but
basically it's just a link it's a
website um and the great thing about
this portal
is that it takes all of our existing
layers that we currently have on web
logistics right now
and it makes them available for download
which is a really neat functionality
that we have because i'll get a lot of
requests from college students
um within the area they're working on
projects or just citizens who are you
know curious about things and want to do
their own analysis and whatnot um and
play with address points and whatnot um
you know pretty neat stuff but this is
the home page of it um
and it gives you a nice little blurb um
about you know what it is and
uh the data catalog and everything um
and then as we scroll down through the
applications we have these nice little
um i call it buttons but they're really
just categories and essentially we have
i believe it's 54 or 56 layers that are
currently on web logistics on that we
make available and all those categories
or all those layers have been broken
into categories for folks to be able to
go
and look at the information the
statistical um kind of attribution
behind it so for instance if i wanted to
you know just look at like zoning
information or anything like that um
i could click on that zoning button or i
could search for something and it would
take me um to in this case i clicked on
the zoning button and it'll take me to
all the layers that i that we have put
under uh you know the zoning category so
for instance if i just want to look at
the actual zoning layer for the entire
accounting um it gives me the option to
click on that um and then actually view
the data as it loads in
um but the nice thing about it is i can
you know besides viewing it from a
spatial capacity um i can also view it
from a tabular standpoint as well so
really the attribution
behind it that you know that you know
that's really the important thing what
makes you know gis later so valuable is
you have the spatial component as well
as the attribution behind it
um is that associated with each parcel
is that is that
it is it is not it's just the blank
zoning blanket that goes over it um okay
but um
the nice thing about it is is you know
if you want to um this is dynamic enough
to where um you can zoom in to a
particular area
and it's not symbolized it's not meant
to be symbolized in this capacity it's
just meant to show you know that hey
there's some information here
from a visual standpoint but it is
dynamic and then i can click around
and it'll give me you know particular
areas and what their zone um in this
case i clicked on the area that's you
know zoned r2 um but the the nice thing
about it and what people like about it
is that i have the option to download
this as a spreadsheet
um so i can actually view the back end
of it
all the attribution signed into it
which you know it'll have some nice
information there
and then it'll have
the kml download which is a nice
functionality because not everybody can
afford high-end gis software but
everybody can use google earth
so you can download these and view these
in google earth which is nice
and then if you do have either custom
gis software or
open source gis software such as qgis
you can download the actual shapefile
which is you know what we use to do a
lot of our analysis here in the county
um
so
that's really the backbone in terms of
the data repository side of the sofa
data portal um and the nice thing about
it is you know it's this is all tied
into
um basically an essential uh
gis reader viewpoint so that it's tied
to our you know main subset of data so
anytime i go in or you know i go in and
update the data um this will be
automatic in terms of you know being up
to date and folks not having to wonder
well i don't know you know when this was
last updated or things like that um so
that's a very nice functionality that as
well
um
and then
the kind of the second um
the second component of the open data
portal itself how do you get into that
first orange open data page you uh so
there is a link on our county's website
okay there
and um
and then um
the second kind of component of the open
data portal is that it also features um
as a repository for
all of our featured applications so
in the past you know we've done
the you know election polling places
application which we've seen in the
election results
application which we saw from 2019 some
of the broadband stuff
you know was on here um web logistics is
on here it's a nice
place to go for
uh folks and residents to say hey what
kind of applications that are gis
centric is the county really offering
um and all kind of in nice one need
place and gives a nice alert and you can
actually um launch straight into some of
these which is
pretty cool so
um it's a nice little historical one um
pretty neat um but
really um
to follow up on these questions yeah i'm
looking i'm looking at the the county
website where where is the button
so if you go to
um go to the it section
or the ip department
okay so go under go to departments and
then go to it
and then there will be a sidebar that
says gis information
okay
and then
there'll be a link at the bottom of the
gis information page that says something
along the lines of click here to access
joking data okay i went all the way to
the ip page did i go too far
i don't know okay i see it now i got it
i got some i got it
no worries um
but really the goal of of the open data site is to
showcase that gis just isn't a partial
viewer and in this case it just isn't
web logistics it also serves as
a nice portal that has all of our layers
um that we choose to make publicly
available as well as all of our other
applications the science level which is
kind of one nice neat
shop and
it would seem to me that having to go to
the i.t department and then down through
the ite department if we're going to
make this visible to everybody that
would be
something right on the front page
so um
and in line with that i think with a
little transition into
my next uh application but i would
really like for um kind of somewhere now
how we have a button on the front page
that says you know click here to access
gis i'd almost really like to have that
button or another button that says click
here to access gis and take you to this
page
and then from there you you pick what
application you want that would work
that's really what i've envisioned this
kind of serving as
instead of going to the web logistics
page correct
how would you get to the web logistics
we would have um and this page is
completely customizable so if we wanted
to we could have like a blurb or a
button here that says you know click
here to access web logistics or
in this case how it's set up um i at the
very bottom of this page i have you know
featured application
and you click here to click one
logistics here
so we can play around with that but
ideally that's kind of what i would like
to happen just so we can kind of maybe
change the narrative that jazz just just
is what logistics but it's not all it is
it's a small component of it
so that's that's really what the open
data portal is um
and then transitioning
um to
the partial viewer um this partial gear
that i'm going to show you today
is essentially um what would
in my mind kind of
take the place of
what we currently use as web logistics
yes sir
what is the difference between
lake of the wade woods maine dam
innovation center
and veterans damn
immigration
that's why i'm asking they're one of the
same but they show
they actually show two different things
they show two different things um
i was probably something i need to check
on in terms of you know planning from
planning standpoint but they are two
different data sets the terminologies
might need to be reworked on that
absolutely they are the same they are
the same and that's why i have a number
of years ago they named the thing the
veteran stand and i'm not sure that's
gotten into the states
listing them yet or not but it's called
the veterans day but they're found two
different
data sets in the same
and that could damn
a case of two where one is from next
year the others you know the following
year yeah and we'll think about which
one is right right right you can get rid
of the other one right
yeah we can certainly do that and that's
part of you know
okay i'm sorry i didn't know what i'm
saying but that knows we just need to
stay awake
that's right damn things just you know
uh no you're completely fine um so this
partial view that i'm going to show you
is actually something that we have
created in-house um completely using our
esri enterprise licensing um which is
super awesome in my opinion but
basically this is this is imagine this
is web logistics it does all the same
stuff it just looks stylistically
different um so and
we're completely you know
dependent on just only ourselves which
is the nice thing so if we want to do
any queries or changes or anything like
that it's we all do it in-house and it's
pretty nice so
um to start off you know we could have
our nice little brother here that has
whatever kind of disclaimers or
information that we want um and you have
to agree to it um
and then it you know it's gonna save you
all the county which kind of similar to
how web logistics is now but in this
case um the nice thing about this is
that when you run
a search
um i have it configured so that it not
only searches the address or not only
searches the partials but it'll search
the address points as well if you choose
it see which is the nice thing
absolutely what you're saying is the
search actual word correct
so
and it's and you know it's just to each
their own in terms of you know what is
actually configurable what not and what
your style is but in this case let's
just say you know i'm searching for
um
let's i'll just use the public safety
parcel because i have it written down
but so when i've typed in the first of
the address numbers here we can see that
it's queried out
it's searching against the address point
as well as the partial address and i
bring that up because a lot of times
we'll get some folks calling if you get
frustrated because well you know i live
at so and so address and it's an
apartment but when i search my apartment
number it doesn't come up well the
reason it doesn't come up is because the
search functionality web logistics runs
against the parcel and not the actual
address point so unless you own that
partial you know you're gonna be you're
gonna have difficult time maneuvering
that which is frustrating for citizens
so
but in this case we can see as i've
typed in i've got my average point
coming up and my partial address coming
up so at this point i'll just click on
the partial um
and it will take me right to it so so if
somebody's in an apartment they can type
that and where
we've got their address and that address
is related to the parcel number
so
it's not like the existing gis or if you
don't have a if you don't own the parcel
you don't uh you don't come up correctly
by tying it to uh to another database
that has everybody's name and address in
the cabinet correct yes sir i've got an
example i'll show that all right okay
but the the the nice thing about it is
that um
you know and so
here we are we've got the public safety
parcel it's taken me here and then we've
got this nice little sidebar that's come
up that's basically the same thing
that's on web logistics it's just you
know configured a little bit differently
that has our information and the
important thing which all the citizens
want to see is the property card so if i
hit the more info link it'll take me to
concise and show me the official
property card which is what people want
to see
um
so that's
no new information on the property cards
as we exist as they exist today correct
yeah and
all the information that you see in the
parcels is pulled directly from
concise camera the property part itself
so
we have a query on the back end that'll
actually update it every week so
all the information that you see is
pulled from the commissioner's revenue's
office um really
gis and what
our department does is just you know we
update the record number which will sync
with all the information and we update
partial geometry oh that's the
key there but um to go back uh to your
point uh mr frame about if i have you
know let's say i'm a business um but i
don't want the parcel
um
but i have my address in this case i'm
going to search for
32303 constitution highway um
and we can see i've got an average point
coming up but not a parcel so currently
whether this is in web logistics if i
went and searched for this now
it wouldn't come up because it's it's it in in that system's mind it
doesn't exist because it's not a record
partial but it is a record and an
average point which is why it shows up
here and we have this configured so that
it searches against the partial and the
address point which again apartments
what not it it helps people out so
and then we can see here i'll cut
the building off
and we can see here it this was the
returning result here just a point um
but
ideally you know there's there's no
reason why we can't
push this out um i'll back up a little
bit so we can see it um there's no
reason now why we can't push out a
product like this in-house versus
everything that you see on web logistics
we currently maintain it's just
we're using that interface as the medium
to show it
and this is
you know an application that we can push
up and maintain relatively quickly it'll
do all the same functionality in terms
of displaying a legend
letting you print
a pdf giving you measuring capabilities
doing that markup and everything like
that so if we want somebody to go in there
we don't necessarily want them to go
into gis we want them to go into this
system
because of the greater flexibility and
the less likely to be frustrated
um and i have this this isn't publicly
available this application is not um but
there's no reason why it can't be
because it's all the same layers that
we're already using now it's just more
kind of the
hey this is what we're doing this is
where we would like to go phase
so but yeah those are
i think
you kind of summed it up perfectly mr
frame and an ideal world i would like to
have the button or what happened on the front
page of the website take you to the open
data portal and then from there have
that have like a featured thing at the
top of the open dashboard will take you
to this course well i mean as soon as
people understand what that is where
they would go
they'd be far more likely to
be comfortable with it especially
if you can avoid the frustrations certainly so that
would be something that
i would like to happen as we transition
because you hear something if i enter my
name and i don't enter it exactly the
way it is if i don't enter a fact that
it's a part of a trust
yeah
it says nothing yeah no record which
you'll still have some of that but with
the added searches you might be able to
alleviate some of that where hey this is
my address point as long as that address
point is in our system it'll it'll be
certified
so ideally to wrap up um i would like to
transition into that you know hopefully
summer mid summer and then buy by
september kind of must be doing that
but yeah that's fine
your parcels
are contingent
upon what the commissioner's office
inputs
yes sir
is there any way
i guess not if it's continued
yeah because it's all the billing and
tax information
so yeah how it works now is you really want him to be at least the
same even if if the commissioner's
office has got some delays or things
like that well i don't even necessarily
delays i know on a lot of parcels
for tax purposes they say that there's
nothing there no
right
would you be able to address that well
that's some
it's
yes and now some of working with them is
something you could address yeah it's
and
we have it's just kind of that legacy
information that you kind of have to do
a little record digging and kind of
determine why it is what it is and then
make a decision on it um but yeah we
have been trying to address that and
certainly moving forward i think you
know it's a big priority um because i
think
technically right now we have over 22
000 partials i think there's
around maybe 170 um that are just part
of like some legacy kind of you know you
have to do a little bit of fact that you
do fact checking in
all out because it's not a record in
place because it's tied to you know
something so
and that's something that we're working
on and obviously need to clean up as of
before but the nice thing about
this is you know i get a lot of calls
saying hey can you help me with this
you know that's a big part of cleaning
up stuff too just people let us know
so if you get you get very many calls or
people saying that i can't find or i've
got problems with no um i mean every once in a while it's
more hey this is my first time logging
on can you help me and i'll walk through
people with that but nothing
very rare i'll get somebody who can't
find something
um but you know we could do it
but if that's not my main call
i'll say that i was gonna say most of
those calls probably go to the
commissioner's office correct
so yeah he doesn't
he can avoid that he gets them filtered
now yeah and usually they're like hey
like this partial is wrong we just made
the update and then they'll have me
basically refresh the connection between
gis and camera which will update the
partials and then the tabular
information will be correct which is
what people you know want to see
and ultimately
this will tie in with the
books and everything in the courthouse
if in fact those records are correct yes sir okay
yeah that would be interesting yeah i
was going to ask a question about that
if i let's say
a new survey is done
it seems to me that at some point in
time it would
be beneficial to have
these data capture that new survey
information i mean it's public record
it's recorded in the area right uh
and i'm not quite sure what that
mechanic
the mechanics of that need to look like
right
is the is the stuff that the courthouse
sufficiently
automated that uh you can make an
interface
with support depending on the parcel
it's searchable now back to about 1983
it's a little bit
heavier of a lift just because it kind
of you start getting to the point of
okay well we have to store all these
electronically and have storage space
for tie-in which is a whole another
one
oh yeah absolutely and unfortunately
there's some things that are just
once again but if we wanted to get like
a one-stop shopping center kind of thing
yeah i certainly wouldn't be opposed to
that
i love it so
it's a powerful tool
yeah
yes sir
thank you guys for your time the other
questions
fantastic i'll make a comment we we
certainly appreciate your your help in
serving some of our the initiatives that
we have throughout the county
as you know we rely heavily on uh
you're addressing capability and
she probably knows the streets and the
uh yes households and these kind of
things
in the county better than almost anyone
else
it's my pleasure thank you very much
the next educational session
i'm not sure how much education you're
going to do
but uh the civic clerk board
sure i'll do my best
um
members of the board
i've briefly introduced you
um by email to
civic clerk's board portal
um and for those that
are in the audience or on youtube that don't know um civic clerk is
the name of our agenda management
platform that we are
working on launching um
internally and it will
eventually be
our out facing platform on the website
for
the public to access
board of supervisors meeting material
and we're working on getting the
planning commission
on board as well
so a location for the public to access
all of our meeting materials but
each of you has a secure login
to access civic clerk's board portal
and so
when you enter your
login information
the screen that's in front of you right
now
is your agenda
landing page
so when you log in this is what you
would first see on your screen
um
it currently has the april 27th agendas
and the may 11th agendas on there as
those are the only two that we've
published to date um however
as we continue
using the civic clerk platform
it will build a history of agendas here
on the screen
would you attempt to take any of these
stuff
no
the reason is because i go to the website and i go look at the
agendas
uh for
last year because i have something i
kind of figure and i click on it and
i'll get the thing
and when i go and click on the specific
item it takes me right back to the front
page and i don't get to see whatever
that item was you will get to continue
to enjoy that yes
things don't work you know
modern web browsers
with this system
you have one picture of
that's not what mine looks like when it
comes up it's not what yours looks like
no it has all the same information it's
in a different configuration
is that
it's four
down
okay is that just a
it's auto scaling for the screen okay that's fine yes but do you still
have rectangles or squares like you can
they're just laid out a little bit
differently
okay
i just wanted to make sure that
i was doing things correctly
i think so okay um
i mean i can get on all this stuff it's
not not a problem i
just
okay beers just looks a little bit
differently has anyone else logged on
yet yeah i said
you see the changing specific piece
today and
was able to
pull it off of this good and it could be
pc versus ipad
viewing difference um
that's fine okay
so you should land at this screen and
mr frame i before i answered so quickly
um
i thought your question was are we going
to take back anything
because i know you were you know there's
a desire to have the history
um
you know but we can work on building out
more history on the on the public
platform i'm not sure i want everybody
to spend a lot of time doing this just
so i can find an item that was two years
ago uh but uh
and
actually uh
i've got a laptop that does do it but i
normally keep that laptop put away
and i have to break that out if i want
to go find a particular piece
well and one thing that i previously
shared was
um
the agenda center which is civic plus
terminology that we use for you all to
access your agenda or the public to
access the agenda now
works best in internet explorer and as
we know that is an outdated browser
um one of the nice things about this new
technology is that it is supported in
chrome and edge which are the updated browsers so
um
but the other browsers can't get in
through the agenda on the website then
because the links the way that we
currently link the board's agenda it
won't work in anything other than
internet explorer
so
yes but
you'll you'll get to this landing page
um and right now you'll see the the work
session and regular meetings for
april 27th and may 11th but it will
build out as we publish
more meetings
so i want to go over there are three
ways
that you can view your agenda and your
meeting your associated meeting
materials
um
the first of which
is directly in the board portal so
i'm going to use tonight's regular
meeting as our example
so you would click on
the item for the regular meeting for may
11th
and this is the first way to view your
agenda and again it's directly in
the board portal and
just to distinguish between the board
portal and public portal as members of
the board you have a secure
login where you can access the
information if we chose to share
confidential attachments for closed
meeting only you would have access to
them
and you can also annotate your agendas
and take notes to help you
remember hey i need to ask this question
at the meeting or remind me to bring
this up at the meeting
but the public will see
the the meeting materials the way that
you see them here too
so
the first way to view it is by clicking
on that tile and you will see the
outline of tonight's agenda
with all of the individual agenda items
if you
for example want to look at the public
hearing
for this evening which is our
suv 2101 piedmont processing
you would simply scroll to that agenda
item
click on that agenda item using the
cursor
and
you can see all of the attachments
associated with that agenda item
one thing you've probably noticed over
the last two months
is that we've implemented a new
format for cover memos
so we have a template for just a
standard cover memo
and then we have a template for agenda
item reports
that have a background discussion
financial impact and recommendation
header
as a means of concisely presenting
information to the board for all agenda
items
um
so
your agenda item attachments will start
out with that cover and then it will
have all of the attachments listed in
order following that cover memo
so by clicking on
the agenda item on that initial outline
you can see
all of the attachments
we did choose to
upload the attachments as individual
items
instead of one large
pdf file
that way if you want to quickly look at
one item you can
discern you know what you're looking at
without having to scroll through
a 35-page pdf
as an example
on the public hearing if you wanted to
quickly look at the application
materials it's one click to get you
directly to the application materials
versus scrolling through all of the
pages that appear before that so
by clicking on attachment application
materials it will pull that up on your
screen
and um you can see the pdf there
just our our cover sheet and then all of
the
application materials will follow that
and then a quick
click on the back button will take you
back to
the landing page for that agenda item
um and then if you use the blue button
in the upper
uh left hand corner
that will take you from the single
agenda item
back to the entire agenda outline so
that you can
either browse to the next agenda item or
go back and look at something else
specific so
this is
the first way for you to access and look
at your agenda
um
before i move to the second
way i want to highlight um
the notes functionality um so just
going back to that public hearing that
we had just looked at when you get to
that individual item
page and you see your attachments on the
left
when you scroll down you will see a note
section
so
if for example
um there's a condition on the proposed
ordinance that i know one of the
conditions on this is
um
you know there will be
no more than 25 animals slaughtered per
week you know if you are reviewing your
agenda materials and that triggers a
question for you you can go down to the
note screen and type um you know how
was
the number of animals determined
is that information you put in there
flyable
um
i will have to defer to
the county attorney
i think there's an exemption for working
papers
um
just serious because if i put it down
here and then i shred the thing when i'm
done
right i i think there's an exemption for
working papers
um
in the code of virginia
um but i will absolutely check with tom
and share that information with you so
that you know how to handle
um
no can any other uh board member get up
an individual's notes no sir
not from the login i i do need to get
the foia question answered for you okay
um
and i'll share tom's response but when
you are logged in
um those are notes under your login and
they wouldn't be shared with any other
user okay
um so
i have a question i'm reviewing my
materials and i want to know about the
number of animals so i go to notes i
typed it it saves automatically
um
so now during the meeting
when i am
review are following along with the
meeting materials and we get to the
public hearing this evening
and i click on it i can see my note down
there
and it's you know a place for you to
um
keep all of your
notes and thoughts and questions as
you're as you're doing your packet
review
um
so does anyone have
any question about
this particular format once i start
building up a database of this
is it going to be searchable
it is
yes so if i said somewhere
six months ago we had
a item on a particular special use or a
particular decision we made
so i'd be able to go and search and find
that
um
i believe in the minutes once we start
uploading them
the minutes are going to be easier
to search
and find that terminology and then you
would be able to go to the corresponding
agenda okay um
versus doing a search in the
all of the specifics of the uh
of the agenda all the specific pages of
the agenda right
okay
all right that doesn't work
um let me look into that a little bit
further before you go
um so that's that's method one
um
the second way is
from the landing page selecting the
agenda that you want to look at again
it's tonight's
regular meeting agenda
and at the top
you'll see a link that says agenda
when you click that it will simply take
you to
the one or two page agenda for tonight's
meeting
so that you have just an overview of
what's on the evening's agenda and then
the second meeting or the sorry the
second button here is for packet
so if you click on packet
it will take you to a view that you know might be more familiar with
um
and it's just a solid
um pdf document
with the agenda as the front page
and all of the agenda item materials in
order
but you don't have a a link on the
agenda page for this version no sir not
on this version
and you also cannot click on your
attachments individually
it's
just as if you were receiving yes a
stack of paper
they are um the agenda is on top and all
of the agenda item materials are in
order behind it
if this is the functionality
that you like you can view it from this
screen
and in the upper left corner there is
a search button
you can click search and it will look
through the entire document for you for
a term
and
if you
click when i'm looking just at this
particular
meeting yes sir just at this particular
meeting
and
next to the search button is an annotate
button
and this might be a little bit easier on
um you know an ipad or something a touch
screen
um but there are some drawing tools
where you can draw arrows lines shapes
you can freehand you can write on the
pdf you can highlight text
um and
the annotations that you
make when this
um
on this file will stay there when you
bring it back up you can do that with
the first method too
um
with the first method i don't think you
have the annotate button
um
no you're right you do yes sir
um so when you click on the individual
pdf
the same functionality is there you have
the search feature
and you have annotate so if you didn't
want to use the notes field at the
bottom and you click on that attachment
you can annotate directly
on on that screen as well
different culture shapes arrows lines
highlight freehand
um there's a number of different ways
that you can mark up the agenda packet
there
um so that's the second way by clicking
on the packet button
and
again it's just like getting one stack
of paper
it's all there in order you can flip
through it
search annotate
um
the third way
is from this same screen
but over in the upper
right hand corner there's a download
button
which is an arrow pointing down
and if you click that
you want to download it as the original
document
and
click download
i i want to know
if you have made annotations on there
and you check this box
anything that you've
written or any freehand any highlights
any markups that you've made will also
download into your pdf if you want it as
a clean packet without your notes you
can uncheck the box
so you hit the download button
and it's
creating the file for you
and just like
you would download any other file it's
going to show up in your download bar at
the bottom it may be different on an
ipad
um
than the view that you have here on pc
but when it finishes downloading it will
be available for you
and when you click and open
i want to open it as a pdf
instead of in the web browser so i'm
gonna
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okay so if you open it in
adobe
you will have
what is similar to the view that you
just looked at
except
when you download the file
well
i'm sorry this is just reader so i don't
it's not having all of my um
all of my bookmarks on here
unless i'm just overlooking it
this is something we can play with
correct
um
are you all familiar with bookmarks in a
pdf
document
um
i don't know where bookmarks are on here
so that's not not doing me
my practice from my computer earlier
well i can practice on what we currently
have and it's not going to hurt a thing
right absolutely it's nothing that you
can't breathe
nothing that you do in your login is is
going to mess anything up but i did want
to highlight
if you choose the download
functionality
every single agenda item has its own
bookmark so even though you do not have
the hyperlinks from the home page from
the agenda that you are used to
if you bring up the bookmarks tab on the
left hand side of the screen it has an
outline of the agenda and every agenda
item has its own bookmark and each of
the attachments
associated with that agenda item have
their own bookmark so you can easily
navigate through the agenda
um by using those bookmarks without
having to
scroll all the way back to the the
beginning see where you are on the
agenda
um it does have in in the bookmarks
an outline of the agenda and you can
browse through it that way um
and then if you have um
any any of the features that you have in
your adobe this is adobe reader so it's very basic um
you probably have a more
advanced version on either your laptop
or
um a pdf viewer that you have on your
ipad but any of those functionalities
in your pdf um
viewer you would be able to use for the
downloaded version
um
so maybe not
all of the annotations and the note
keeping from the first two versions
but if this is something that you're
more familiar with or more comfortable
with you can download it and use the
bookmarks to to follow through the
agenda
and you don't have to have
connectivity
correct
on your laptop or device even without
the wi-fi working correct
and if you went through um
and did all of your annotations
and highlighted what you wanted um and
connectivity is an issue then you can
download that file with all of your
markups on it and bring it up in
the board meeting without um
without having any any worries for your
uh wi-fi connection you're still really
trying to push me away from my paper
aren't you know
flexibility
exactly maximum flexibility and um
you know the board of supervisors
established a digital citizen
priority and this is fun yes we're
hoping that as long as i get my paper
for the next two and a half years
this tool makes that easier because we
go to that single pdf file and just go
print yes spits it out at the end hole
punch here you go yeah as opposed to
making each item and having it it's
funny so it helps in every respect
exactly
and i really like the idea of being able
to search
i do i do want to check on that
functionality for you um i know it's there in
each individual
agenda and i believe it's there the
first
if i could just say search i want to we
did something on the blue building and i
want to be able to search anything and
call and said yeah we had a meeting here
and ended you know whether i did it on
the
when it shows up in the uh
in the minutes
or uh and then i can link it to the
agenda that'd be fine but just being
able to say okay we discussed it uh
four times in the last two years okay so
from your landing page
and jim are you are you all still on the
landing screen the home page of the
agendas
up and up next to your name
in the upper right hand corner there is
a magnifying glass
yes and sometimes
it helps me and sometimes
um
and that will take you to the search
screen okay
and if you hit the search button you can
enter a keyword
and search by a date range okay
um
so
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i'm gonna search by the gentleman's last
name
no you won't be on a search back that
far yet
um
but if we go back
to april for
capture all of april through may
um
and i searched for the gentleman's last
name
because i knew that was going to come up
for the public hearing tonight and i hit
search it's telling me that there's one
result
and there's an agenda item with his name
and it tells me that it's an action item
that was scheduled for the regular
meeting on may 11th and i can click on
that
search result and it will take me
directly to
um
to that agenda item
so from search
you can search meetings items notes if
you have your notes in there and you
want to search for a term
in your notes it will come up there
something that you've bookmarked so
there is um
a search functionality on the agenda
screen as well
right thank you allison you're welcome
i'll answer your questions for the time
i already used it this afternoon or this
morning i found it useful good
thank you very much glad to hear that
and i'll get an answer on the foia
question
all right it's out oh
yeah oh the answer's out in the hallway
right that's right all right he's
shaking his head
in the work session and pick up the data
in about five minutes perfect thank you
i wanted to send it over
cole can you pause the meeting for us
please
good
nice
cole can you please resume the
live stream please
it shows up as needed but it's not
call are we ready for stream
excuse me
well mr chairman let's go ahead and get
started okay
all more supervisors
i pledge
allegiance of the united states of
america
and to the republic for which it stands
one nation
under god
indivisible with liberty and justice for
all
are there
changes in addition to deletions to the
agenda
karen none i would
so move to approve
second second
consent agenda motion to approve okay
second
all in favor
all right
next we'll move on to special
presentations
with the honorable randy cooper over the
divisions market table would like to
step forward sure that would be
wonderful
i i think i know some of you up here i
brought the podium in especially for you
that's all right
um
so in march of 2020 i opened up a place
called provisions market tape um located
in the sentinel complex right beside the
ocean
it says website subway as well
um operation for a year and near a few
months
but we have
full service food lunch dinner
um we also have a market we started the
market
to be part of the restaurant not the
restaurant itself
last year it was a restaurant
i'm slowly seeing a turnaround for more
food service
prepared food service
and a lot of local sports a lot of
people coming here sports
so you guys know i've seen a lot of new
faces consistently a lot of younger
crowd which i think really orange needs
um and that's pretty much it that's it
that's all i got
very good thank you any questions or
comments for randy
where are you located
319 north madison road your subway is
yes i think uses a landmark or website
subway
and just oh
i've been in there
very nice and
as i was with your
foods and provisions excellent excellent
very good
thank you thank
next you
a presentation of a proclamation
recognizing national police week and
national peace officers mobility today
would you like to read the proclamation
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we do have a french copy down here and
the sheriff is here to receive it okay
i'm just assuming
absolutely
i prefer that sitting up here if i
get the sheriff up here
and if i can make it through this one
i'm taking the mask off
nope
read through this properly i certainly
will do my best to serve the
proclamation to recognize the week of
may 9th through the 15th 2021 as
national police week and may 15 21
2021 as national peace officers memorial
day by virtue of the authority invested
in orange county board of supervisors we
hereby recognize the week of may 9th
through 15th 2021 as national police
week and may 15 2021 at national peace
officers
kennedy signed the first proclamation
recognizing every may 15th as peace
officers memorial day
and the week in which it falls is
national police week and whereas police
officers throughout the commonwealth
work tirelessly to protect and serve its
citizens enforce its laws and keep its
neighborhood schools and families safe
and whereas police officers report for
duty aware of the sacrifices they may be
called upon to make and risk their lives
each day and every day in order to
safeguard the public and enforce the
laws of the commonwealth and whereas
law enforcement agencies playing a
critical role in safeguarding the rights
and freedoms of all citizens and it is
important for citizens to know and
understand the duties and
responsibilities of police departments
and members of law enforcement agencies
and whereas members of law enforcement
agencies
unceasingly provide a vital public
service to the communities in which they
serve and whereas we reflect upon the
selfness selfless dedication and bravery for our local state and other
public sector police as our safety and
well-being are promoted by their
devotion to maintaining peace and
security in our communities
and whereas national police week and
national peace officers memorial day are
opportunities to honor officers both
past and present to commemorate those
who have fallen in the line of duty and
to recognize the contributions and
sacrifices made by the families of those
officers and the families those
who continue to protect and serve our
community now therefore it be proclaimed
on this 11th day of may 2021 that the
orange county board of supervisors
hereby recognizes the week of may 5th
9th through 15th 2021 as national police
week and may 15 2021 as national peace
officers memorial day
and calls these observances to the
orange county community to both increase
awareness of law enforcement and the
service provided to the community and to
rock
in the honor of the courageous officers
who have lost their lives or have become
disabled while serving a line of duty
signed and sealed the 11th day of may
2021 james b cruz chairman orange county
board of supervisors sheriff
thank you for everything you
and your staff do for our county
protecting our citizens and answering
calls in a very positive
community way i truly appreciate it this
means a lot that our local government
has done this
i'll leave out the rest
thank you very much
uh next is
presentation from the orange workforce
center marty baldwin
yes sir so i'm not marty baldwin marty
is a pretty one
and we're back he'll be up here in a
second but i'm dave gilmore from the
virginia career piedmont evening i'm
going to give you a little bit of intro
this really talks about the structure of
workforce development and our career
center within the region
marty's going to talk to you then about
how that applies to orange county
specifically and answer some of the
questions
so our mission we're really one of 15
workforce boards in the state and we're
responsible for addressing the workforce
needs to total workforce in the region
specifically we're responsible for
supporting businesses and making sure
they have the skilled pipeline that they
need
but also supporting the job seekers as
they're looking for
employment we now have a diversity
equity inclusion state and we think
that's becoming more and more critical
particularly for us because we have
access to a lot of people
that are
within communities that have needs
so we think we've got a unique
opportunity to support these people make
sure those needs are understood by the
businesses and we're helping the
businesses deal with their specific
topics
we are called local workforce
development area six it includes 10
counties that are on this chart plus the
city of charlottesville
and within that it's broken down in the
planning district 9 and district 10.
orange isn't planned in district 9. so
we'll focus on that today but it's a
fairly large region i actually think
it's the largest workforce development
region by area in the state
so it covers an awful lot of land a few
urban areas
but mostly
and that presents some unique challenge
i want to talk a little bit about our
one-stop delivery system and and the
centers that we have because we have
three different types of centers
every workforce development area has to
have one regional comprehensive center
ours is in charlottesville and that's
really based on population
but it just makes sense to put the one
comprehensive center within
charlottesville
the conferences center has all the
partners either co-located
or within a very short distance from us
okay and it is the regional office for
the beginning employment commission
that's important because we've got one
space and they share the cost
so the way we fund this is through
virginia career or piedmont region
but our partners at a co-locator even
with dust
also co-found that location
that becomes important a bit later
and we are funded as vcwp model through
federal
state and local funds so it's not one
source emily it's all the resources
we also have two affiliate centers one
is culpepper
which marty resides in
and marty and his staff there are
actually
four four
leo representatives there right some
caseworkers or career counselors
and they're supporting the entire pd9
region
we also have what we call a resource
center specialist in that location
now that location is partially funded by
rapid hana goodwill
and by vcwt so in some ways the costs
are split it's a little bit of a unique
arrangement we're very thankful for the
partnership without having a good rule
but it allows us to keep that center
open and support the entire region
we also have the orange center which
you're very familiar with
where we have a resource center
specialist only we actually have a
temperature taken now as well which due
to this locative workforce on the state
but that resource center specialist
that's sitting in the orange county
office across the street
really brings people in does the intake
process and then refers them to the
nyola
specialist or to other services that
they need so they've got full access to
our services
and they're open tuesday through
thursday
the funding there is split between
orange county and very kindly provide
facility income
and you're also providing funds for
their resource center specialist
the balance of the support costs comes
from bcp mod
and then there are three satellite
centers one in auburn
one in downtown charlottesville
the one in one we don't have a lot of
contact with them unless they requested
so they're really running stand-alone
centers for job seekers
i will say that the albemarle center is
moving now towards becoming an affiliate
we're actually going to start the
certification process now and we're
using orange county as a model
because you think you have the right
model
for affiliate centers
that are
really going to support job seekers and
businesses with the resource center
special
not necessarily a full blanket and a
staff
but the incentive can be the conduit
this satellite center can be the conduit
all of those satellite centers are
funded by
the city or county
so there's no additional funding we
certainly support it
when it's appropriate but we aren't
providing funding for that
so why is all that important well we did
some research recently and looked at our
constituent server
and quite frankly i think this is a
great success story for orange county
what we learned in pd9 is 93 of those
served in person who go into a center
for support
career support resume writing
whatever happens
93 of those actually have career centers
so if you look at the charts cult pepper
and orange
and falcore county are dominating that
mix
we're supporting almost nobody from
madison and rafah
and we believe that's because of
location
we don't think people are going to drive
45 minutes an hour and a half to go to a
career center it's just not going to
occur
we've also did some work because people
said okay what's probably happening
virtually we don't believe that's the
case again we believe a lot of job
seekers don't have access to eyes
because they're not going up the tools
of training
we saw the same thing in pd 10 where
albemarle and charlotte were
the services that we're providing and
again we believe a lot of that's
location
we've actually used that data to apply
for very virginia grant we're about
halfway through the process
we're going to create we're going to try
to create a mobile
caseworker system
some counties like nelson levana
madison et cetera will provide space and
provide support
and we'll actually have a bcwp mod
representing a
resource center specialist on site one
day a week in those locations
and conducting job fairs in those
counties
so again we're using orange county as a
model for that work because we believe
that it's a model that's proven to be
very successful
we're just going to talk now about some
of the orange county data that your
questions are behind real quick
do you have a breakdown by area of the
county that supports the orange
workforce center as
we have a breakdown by people that
enroll in the workforce program the wie
program yeah i think you're talking
she's talking about the per person
not all the counties are provided
well i'm actually talking about from a
geographic perspective like my zip code would be fun what we ask is just
which county
exactly okay
we could probably date a mine now but we
don't have a little today okay well
there's a very specific reason to ask
about that
is we we have
people either in the town of orange
close to it or town of gordonsville and
people at the eastern end of the county
and i'm inclined to think that
you're not capturing
our entire
county i think you're
inclined to think that you're capturing
the count of orange area gordonville
area i was just curious if you had any
data to back it up or
i don't think we have data but but i
believe you're correct based on what
we're seeing and the
data we have with that
the further away you get from the career
center and the more role you get into an
area the less likely people are first to
know about us
and second to take advantage of the
services they will offer either because
of transportation or other other topics
so we're pretty convinced now going
forward we have to take the message to
the people
and not sit in offices and hope that
they come back so this is the entire
philosophy of this government
so i want to give you a little
information specifically about the
orange center some data
so workforce development is big in the
news on these days with the shop from
covid workforce development really is
listening to the demand from businesses
and supplying um the labor that this
businesses need so it's making that
connection
um and so i think ranch county is to be
commended for the last six years making
an investment in the infrastructure to
respond in such a uh workforce crisis as
now um so i want to give you a little
historical context um a three-year look
back of the impact from the orange
workforce center
and you can see the first graph you have
is the number of people that have come
through
the center here in orange on both
avenues and we average about 50 job
seekers a month
it is part time so it's three days a
week um facility you can see the
outliers there the orange which was from
last spring
from march april and may
um the huge spike on one month was over
300 folks served a month um primarily
for unemployment when everything shut
down
and unemployment shot up so high
um
as far as we do track very carefully job
placements because that is the data that
matters to businesses um and to people
to people's lives so um over the same
time frame we've
tracked 225 job placements and then we
broke them down in this pie chart by
industry um and you can see that
45 were in manufacturing and warehouse
um jobs we're very happy about that with
the composition of industry in orange
that's reflective
of the needs from businesses that are
out there
the other two major industries were
wholesale retail and services services
also encompasses health care in this
breakdown
and then one of the great advantages of
partnering with virginia career works is
you get the support of the other four
members of the workforce team also
direct access for your constituents
to
workforce funding to pay for tuition for
credentials
so we've seen 32 orange county residents
get credentials
and you see the breakdown there the
majority are pursuing careers in
healthcare
um then pursuing personal care served by
nursing assistant clinical medical
assistant lobotomy credentials
followed by cdl license cdl a and b um
those are paid for through through our
grant um and so those 32 credentials
represent forty seven thousand dollars
worth of tuition that virginia
pre-orders has paid on behalf of orange
county residents
i think this is really interesting this
is a three-year look at the reason that
people have visited the career work
center in orange
um so two years ago sort of as a
baseline
and you can see that the majority folks
came either to do job search they're
applying for jobs or to meet with
partner programs um david listed some of
those partners adult ed
disabilities sources of eec
the orange dss
all operated out of the office and so
there's partner meetings so the majority
were for job search are meeting with
partner programs
last year you can see what a disruptor
it was 53 of the visits services were
for unemployment
followed by job search and then this
year is our recovery year responding to
that impact and we really pivoted to
create opportunities to connect
job seekers with
job opportunities so most folks are
utilizing the center for job fair or um
some job search services
again this is the list i will read to
you but the ways that we reach out to
folks that are unemployed in the county
the ways that we connect with businesses
to hear what their needs are through
partnerships um through the accounting
economic development and then how we
connect those two together
um every person in the county who
does file for unemployment receives
a introduction email about the services
at the center we know the email is not
enough so our resource specialist then
provides a phone call to tell people
where we're located
how they can come in what we can provide
how they can access the grants to paper
training and careers switches
and then
um there's other outreach to send
through social media to provide updates
about who's hiring and events that are
coming up
um and then just one time final
um
i think to respond to the misalignment
between labor supply and demand it's
going to take a lot of creative efforts
to reconnect those pieces
um and i think it's going to be some
small initiatives that will build um
because each person is different this
person that we see looking for work has
certain circumstances each company is
different
one example is a project we did last
year
um connecting orange county high school
students to career pathways and
manufacturing
working with fm expressions to do an
internship while our staff did job
readiness work with the students so that
they could explore the possibility of a
career manufacturing i think it's those
kind of initiatives that are going to
move this forward
i know we're short on time are there
any questions
can you give an example of luke's
success story
yeah i appreciate that um that question
so we had an orange county resident who
came to us last year
she was working at a minimum wage job um
had
five kids um an ice minimum wage isn't
going to support the family the mit
living wage um calculator says in our
area an individual just with one kid one
parent with one kid needs to make twenty
six dollars an hour to pay all expenses
so she needs some help so we're able to
pay for her to get her pca and her cna
license to go into health care she got a
pay raise um started working here in the
county but still needed some more income
and wanted to advance in her career
pandemic
and we were able to connect with a job
doing contact tracing where she actually
tripled her salary so now she's using
healthcare training
helping people in the community and able
to support her family
what's the time frame when you first
visit her
yeah that's a great question
accomplished so when folks go into
training or enroll in that workforce
program it used to take between six and
eighteen months once they get a job we
stay in touch with them for twelve
months to make sure they got their name
what is the primary source of funds for
the training and the support
yeah so it's ultimately from the
department of labor the workforce
innovation opportunity act um it comes
down to the state and workforce
development boards
could give us a little insight on what
you're working on to do virginia
so i can so we've done two things we've
got to go to virginia brand now it's
called project reconnect and we're
really trying to reach out to job
seekers so as they're coming into the
system we're reaching out to them via
email and we're coordinating job fairs
for that
we've also created a job secret toolkit
that gives them access to the tools they
need to find jobs
you can go to linkedin if you're an
executive or a skilled person
you're not going to use linkedin if
you're looking for an interconnection
but there are 12 to 15
ways to help them find jobs and give
them access to that
we're also right in the middle now
creating an employer toolkit which is
matching the career pathways to
employers
as an example if you're in hospitality
or if you're in tourism or enlightening
fashion certain programs within cte
programs
within accountings
within community colleges that are local
adult education
that will set you up for a career in
those specific sectors
so we're really working hard now to
identify those sectors we've got six
within the region
i imagine and aren't here probably
covering all six of them
and we're trying to align the employers
with the education community and the
can bring those together we'll then
create internships apprenticeships
and opportunities for
employment that people may not know
about
that's the one we have today
going forward we're applying for new
virginia ground which i described
earlier based on the data that we showed
you we think we're not accessing
those in the rural communities that do
not have career centers and we're under
serving
we have to find a way to take people to
those counties even if it's within your
county but the outskirts of your county
we have to find a way to get resources
out to them
the way we're structured today
we can only sit in the centers that we
describe because we just don't have the
resources or the structure in place
what we're asking doing virginia to help
us support is within kind contributions
from those rural counties
for facility space and for support
we're going to provide what we call a
mobile career specialist or resource
center specialist that can travel to
those counties
work with the employees for job fairs
but also work with job secrets to make
sure that we're providing face-to-face
support
we believe it's so crucial to be face to
face with job seekers particularly for
entry-level provisions that are so
difficult to find
and that's what we're hoping we get from
the government
what what is the dollar value of these
two grants so the dollar value for the
first grant was about a hundred and
thirty thousand dollars hundred forty
thousand dollars almost a hundred
thousand from the state
matched fifty percent for the localities
the grant we just applied for is a
hundred and fifty thousand uh from the
state and seventy
natural look penalties for about 225
this is split between both
pd-9 and ken or is that pd
so no it's split between pd and pd-10 so
it comes out to look highly funny you
know in some cases workforce innovation
opportunities have funded as well if it
can be applied
but it would be split among the 11
localities not not one or two
a couple of comments on the information
uh
on page eight you've got some graphs
there but they they seem incomplete to
me
um
you got
approximately 50 visits per month
but it looks like in reality it's
considered more than 50 visits
and it seems like we could have been
given
an exact amount there if that would have
been helpful
um
and then
your your next grab is a pie chart
it's 225 job placements but it doesn't
give me
any other information it just says 225
job placements are they
225 job placements in the last three
years
that's correct okay
so
if you've got 50 visits per month
that's
let's just branch through the 50 visits
even though it appears to me to be
probably closer to 75 but if not more
that would be 600 a year or 1800 over
the three year period and you've got 225
job points
and that's a 12 and a half percent
success rate
um
that doesn't seem very president
yeah and so
i'd like to know
what are we what are we planning to do
different
this coming year
to get that 12 and a half percent up to
maybe
20
no that's that's a great analysis and
good math there um
it's uh
so there's couple things at play
way above what the state averages as far
as jobs and visits um the other part we
didn't have in there the visits we have
um we often work with that need multiple
visits so they'll come in multiple times
for multiple months in a row um each
person gets an individual employment
plan which means
if i need support get my ged that might
be step one i need some supports for
child care transportation housing so
we're working along all those things at
the same time as employees um our sweet
spot is working with folks that have
significant barriers to employment like
those things that i just mentioned so
sometimes those take multiple visits
well
this is
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envisioned as a
workforce development boards so the the
primary idea here is to
get people who are looking for work into
work is that correct
so
if if in these 50 visits this is a lot
of
sort of repeat business then i think
that's important so so that that makes
the that graph even less of value to me
i mean
we need i need some some good metrics here that say this
number of people come in in a particular
period and obviously
you're not going to instantaneously find
employment but
should be within
a reasonable period of time 60 days i
need a days or else it
should count i mean
yeah
because because um
and then the you know the job placements
and the credentials are it can be placed
in some type of
context that's worthwhile but as you presented
it here
you know i have no idea
okay fair enough i what
mark uh
what kind of i'm trying to uh since i
might have some influence on this uh
in terms of a metric we're saying okay
i've got somebody who's come in and he's
been there three or four times for
different aspects of it
did he get a job did he get a job in
orange county did he get a job somewhere
else
so maybe a little more detailed follow
up on the success of
the process as opposed to just numbers
well
first of all you know i kind of like
just numbers but they need to be numbers
that actually mean something and i can
look at them and say okay
you know i know what this means these
are just kind of
pretty charts that didn't you know
really
didn't really help me to understand
if our if our primary focus is to get
people into the workforce
uh then there should be metrics that
let us know
uh how we're doing
yeah so and yeah and so i you know if if
we you know some of these 225 jobs
theoretically
they could be repeats you could get
someone who
perhaps on paper looks very employable
and so you're able to get them five jobs
in a year's time
i'm theorizing i don't know but i would
imagine that could happen but how long
do these people or how how how well do
these things take what are we really
accomplishing if we get a job for
somebody and then
30 days later they're unemployed again
we haven't really accomplished it and
it's not necessarily i'm not blaming you
all for them not uh
working longer than 30 days
but
that's important information for this
board to have in terms of evaluating
whether
this is a program that
suits our needs
so i can share
a little more data with you and then we
can provide you with with more concrete
information later
we have we have monthly kpi metrics that
are based on the state goals for
workforce development within the region
and within the district
within pd9 we're exceeding those goals
for adult dislocated workers and even
so
that's set up based on what's expected
within the state and statistical
analysis of what's occurring within the
state
and i'll tell you that the results in
our region are very strong compared to
other regions within the state and
they're exceeding the state goals for
this year even with dependent
so i'm confident that we have
a lot of the metrics in kpi you're
talking now we did not include them in
this presentation for brevity we're
happy to provide those treatments we've
given marty's monthly report
you know he says he said
a number of center hires for the
businesses was five in the last couple
of months five and april five in march
and the number of people of businesses
that were served but in terms of saying
okay getting back to your question was
this guy
hired for a temporary job would we uh
did we
this was a guy who came in
had no skills we got in the skills and
he now has a job making uh 35 000 a year
something like that i mean that's
and
i know that gets it trying to
individualize that but i think we need
maybe some more statistics that approach
it that way
and uh and trying to do that so i'm
with mark on that
try to make some statistics a little
more meaningful
and uh
and
i'll
brainstorm with you a couple of times to
see what you want to see
and i also asked
the council and the board
to see what we can come up with that
uh you know now i know you've had some
uh examples uh that you've uh that
you've used in the last few months in
terms of this person needed this and got
this this and this ended up with a
pretty good job but those are one-offs
and trying to build a little more
statistical assessment of that way
so i think we can i think we can try to
do that now
the other side of this step i'd like to
see some more information about the
business side what are you seeing in the
way of
requests uh
you know i think
i take your 225 over the last three
years and that's about 70 per year that
you've offered well that might be a good
number if you're if you had 90 requests
and you're doing really well if you had
900 requests then the business need is
not being fully met
you're not responsible for every hire
that they need to make obviously but it
would be nice to see some metric on the
success you're having in terms of
meeting the overall lead
standpoint of the businesses themselves
yeah if you had ballpark how many jobs
are available here in arms
yeah
i i can tell you from so a couple things
along that one demand is definitely
outpacing supply
locally and nationally
at the time where we had a job fair um
10 days ago here at wooster park
we had 16 local businesses from orange
47 job seekers come from those 16
businesses i easily counted over 200 job
openings so demand is definitely beyond
supply right now
especially for entry level lower wage
higher labor positions so whether that's
manufacturing like manufacturing
greenhouse construction those are the
openings that are available and there's
just got not as many people
um there to fill those we're seeing that
in every region in the state and
nationally i heard a statistic earlier
they're 8 100.
sorry there
are 8 100 jobs of them
8 200 job seekers
within an expanding region and they
don't match because people are looking
for entry-level workers and they can't
find them what's happened is a lot of
neutral of the world is pivoted in one
another industries particularly in
hospitality
we're running into that across the
region
light manufacturing is getting killed
right now because they can't find the
entry-level workers that they need and
they're not out there
right we believe it's related to people
pivoting into new careers when the
pandemic head which is also related to
the
insurance extra
people are making 17 to 18 an hour now
not working
when you're offering you know 14 15 an
hour it's a high-end entry-level job
that's really going to hurt that's
really going to hurt supply
so we absolutely know within the within
orange within the region of the state
and nationally
there are more jobs available today than
there are job seekers
there's no doubt that's the case and we
hear about it every day
so the hourly equivalent of not working
is 17 an hour roughly yeah
and so another piece of that that spoke
to the orange manufacturer today
they're increasing their wage to be more
competitive time to try to capture those
entries
um
welcome mr johnson mr fraim um if
there's any specific data points you'll
want us to track on the monthly report
did i send the board
welcome
to a little brainstorming in terms of
just what what would be meaningful
in terms of uh what we're accomplishing
i'm looking at like
over the last number of months you had
81
a number of employers served
and then 27 numbers of uh
center hires
and
where do those two correlate
is there
is is that 27 out of 81 or did we have
some other help to an employer
that we served that wasn't necessarily
related to a job but maybe helping them
to uh define their uh
their what their requirements were or
what their uh ads should look like
things like that so i think there's some stuff to be done with that
and there are spreadsheets behind the
spreadsheet so there's more information
well and that's why i say maybe we can
break that down but uh
understanding it from uh mark's
standpoint i think he's been a good
point
let me just follow up on something you
just said you talked about the 8 100
jobs
i think it was and 8 200
people looking for jobs
or vice versa even 200 jobs it's a
one-to-one ratio in the nation in the
state and regions right
and i understand it's the same way here
in orange county from what i've heard
and then you and then you went on to
mention the
people could make 17 an hour
sitting home
are those people
are they included in the
8 000 people who are unemployed yeah
so do we have a way of figuring out
actually how many people we have
who are unemployed and looking for work
yeah so i looked at the numbers this
morning so orange county unemployment
rate is 4.9 which is better than the
state average about one is a point
better than the national average i mean
there's 814 people in each county that
are unemployed right now before the
pandemic it was 490. so you know less
than 400 folks that's that's something
we can we could tackle
but are they
those 814
are they just people who are maybe
collecting unemployment benefits are
they 814 people are actually looking for
work
so starting in two weeks everybody
collecting the deployment will have to
submit two jobs that they've applied for
every week and that's been something we
haven't had to do before for quite a
while
we don't have any way of uh i i thought there was a point in
which people stopped looking they
dropped off the unemployment rates
that's right yeah they dropped out of
the labor force participation rates
so those people are they
they're not part of the 814 that you're
talking about
but the bugs also declare their other
barriers child care schools are not they
have been there's certainly child care
issues their transportation issues have
been armed for a while right there that
is not the only barrier but it is a
barrier
we think that's going to change when the
requirement to look for work begins at
the end of may
but it's probably not at least most
analysis i've seen say that's not going
to make a huge difference what's really
going to make a huge difference is when
the federal government stops giving the
additional 300
employment
which now is slated for september
so we think there will be a month coming
there will be more job seekers starting
at the end of may
but at least conventional wisdom now is
that that will really take a step up in
september or if states decided to stop
accepting that money with several states
of stockholm
so i've got 800 jobs and 800 job seekers
but trying to find a match
to any one of those 814
that can match in terms of whether they
whether the
wages are enough whether the skills are
enough whether the child care is enough
or whether the transportation is enough
all of those things trying to match
those
is what the is where we're running into
the challenges
well but it sounds like we don't have
any better jobs
we have some smaller numbers
because
we have 814 eligible job seekers
and
the federal government has made it very
convenient for 800 of them to not seek
jobs or some number so many of those 8
14 probably have a cash job on the side
too so yep
but the other thing that we're
anticipating around august september is
um you know
parents doing double duty as teachers
parents and trying to work that's just
been you know difficult and so if
schools get back into a regular session
parents don't have the full triple duty
within you'll be more people
historically april september is our
biggest time of seeing people start new
jobs because people are ready to make a
change so we're really gearing up for
that kind of thing well the point for me
is not i'm not trying to beat anybody
over the head
what i'm trying to do is understand the
actual numbers
so if we're if we're looking at the
problem that
businesses are having getting employees
and we say well there's there's 814
people looking for work well
and there's eight i think there's
roughly 800 jobs available in orange
county right now but in fact there isn't
814 people
i mean there is some smaller number so
that would
i mean
you talked about the fact they don't
match which that makes sense i mean if
you got a high skilled person out of
work they're not going to be looking to
do a low-skilled job
and and low-skilled people can't
qualify for the high-skill job but
it's very difficult for me to understand
the problem unless i have actual
hard data
to look at that's my main point here
you know
just saying we've got equal number of
job seekers and job openings
it doesn't sound like that's really a
factual statement yeah it is to be clear
it's equal number of unemployed
that are receiving benefits first
job opportunity my suggestion here is
can you do some data mining
and get with mr johnson and mr fraim to
break it down
and find a more
accurate
accounting of people actually looking
for jobs that are unemployed
versus the total number of unemployed
that i know that's one area that we're
looking for is
we have 800
how many of the 814
unemployed
are actively looking
to fill those jobs
and
within that
where is the discrepancy or the
disparity
between
employability level
and what we have
in jobs that would be a very good start
and we can go from there that work
because we're gonna we're gonna do our
best to date and mind that for orange
county but i will tell you it's gonna
rely on our partners at virginia
employment commission and others
some of what here these are great
questions i'm not sure we're gonna have
all the data we're gonna get the data
that we can present back okay and i
would also appreciate
the
zip codes
for the unemployment
yeah because we do
the fact that we're getting more people
from orange and
gordonsville into the uh center
and uh
any of the people the other end of the
county using it or where do they go if
anywhere
i thought would that work for pronouncer
or is it what you'd like
someone living at the other end of the
county lake in the woods for instance
just a drawing about that
i mean they could go to the culpepper
center correct they don't they don't
have to go to the one in their county so
that would be a probably a shorter drive
for and just one clarification um every
person that goes through the door of the
orange workforce center we have
information on them dad i can give you
all this what you need you are also
asking some bigger global questions that
will require economists or state
agencies to provide more information so
i think that was today would we be able
to determine how many orange county
residents go to culprit yeah
it's not very many yeah
all right very good all right thank you appreciate it
moving on to new business awarded an
additional contract for general
engineering
good evening everyone
um at the
board supervisors meeting on april 27th
contracts were awarded for general
engineering and architectural services
we had a firm
epr
submit a proposal that should have been
included
in at the last meeting for an award this
firm has previously had a contract with
the county for general engineering and
architectural services and staff has
been very pleased with their services
and would like to keep working with them
staff feels that epr should be awarded a
contract to assist with current and
future projects
so we are asking approval to move
forward with this contract which would
be for one year with the possibility of
four one year renewals
questions
so this is to add them to them
and but they applaud the approach yes
all right all in favor all right
department director council officer
reports
nothing
to watch
just one item that uh is sent by email
and just to make everyone aware of the
state of emergency regarding fuel i've
just sent something out to all
department heads to make contingency
plans in the event that we have
difficulty securing gasoline sheriff's
office it feels like they've made such
arrangements
schools uh main tank has been topped off
so we think we can probably operate
for a couple of weeks
so we should be able to get through the
kind of time frame i think of a children
now so let's just call that to your
attention
okay put a quick question on that um
the school's tanks are
capped off and for some reason this
could go a little bit longer
would we go back to a virtual school
scenario for a while
well that's certainly an option i would
suppose but we have not gone that far to try to postulate a scenario but we
certainly have practiced doing that for
some time and i'm just saying if for
some i understand that uh colonial's
supposed to be back online and getting
everything back to normal i'm just
that's just happened extra
well that's part of the problem right
now they're having an issue getting
drivers for the tanker trucks and
meeting the federal mandates as far as
the hours that they can drop that's
right that seems to be the major issue
right now so i was just curious yes sir
i was wrong
all right thank you sir
um
mr jillian oh
the
tax bills have not gone out yet and i've
gotten a call from a constituent about
that
uh and
what i would propose is that
because of the circumstances
that have led to the bills going out
they're not late statutorily
but they are late compared to what they
normally the normal schedule
uh i would like to propose that we um
once again adopt either a 30 or 45 day
delay
in the implementation of penalties and
interest
as we've done the past couple cycles
what what is your proposal for well i
would say you know we delay 45 days
it would still be due on on on
i think the 7th or whatever but there
would be a 45 delay before
penalties and interest rates grace
period
right okay
on that
second okay any further discussion
thank you mr johnson i appreciate that
uh all in favor
opposed
i'll say unanimously thank you sir
mr white
one comment uh
sort of a sad
comment that you're all aware there's a
couple fatalities at the intersection of
route 522 and independence
over the
weekend before
last uh
circumstances were
a bit odd that
those of us that happens to be in in
district two those of us who travel
frequently have
had
hair-raising experiences regularly
i did reach out
to alexander's of veda to talk about the
problems there and the issues and it's a challenging situation for which
there's no easy solution
i guess you could put a traffic signal
there but nobody is really going down
that path and so
i want to make essentially two comments
allen was very receptive as a matter of
fact that afternoon after i spoke with
him he and the safety engineer went out
and
started assessing
the what if game what could we do in the
short term in the long term long term
uh it's a possibility that a major
renovation
could take place under smart scale
funding and these kind of things so that
could
come before us at some point uh
short term it's probably going to be
what what they
like to
euphemistically call traffic calming
which could be anything from
signage and flashing lights to rumble
scripts the lord knows what
but
i think we're going to have to take some
relatively aggressive
steps that that road on anybody who
travels and knows on especially on the
weekends in the lake end of traffic
is pretty tough and it's actually gotten
worse because of the improvements that
were made at 5 22 and 20 because the
traffic can move through there better so
it's a situation that
is going to probably come before us at
some point fairly soon to
move up
the list in terms of uh
anyway
what's marshall
um
next is informational items
next would be appointments to boards
commissions and committees
next is the calendar
do we have anything
very good
human
good pleasure right we will move into
the public hearings
um
uh
public hearing is
scp-2101
william renata
can you please go ahead and do your
presentation
uh yes good evening
um this is an application as you
mentioned by william bernard to operate
a livestock slaughtering and processing
facility on property owned by knight
cattle corp
located at 15415
james madison highway
property is located in district 1 is
zoned general industrial
its future land use map designation is
economic development
the affected acreage is
25.73 acres
the application was made pursuant to
zoning ordinance section
70-543 item 15
rendering plant panerai or other similar
use of an odorous nature involving the
production or processing of animal
products
um as i mentioned and as you know this
is
been the site of a livestock market for quite some time
um the planning commission opened their
public hearing on the application on
march 4th received public comments
through march 23rd and concluded their
deliberations and formulated a
recommendation for approval on april 1st
2021
the commission received five sets of
comments and considered
that they considered three were in
support of the proposal and two proposed
questions and concerns
one of those sets one of those
commenters was particularly concerned
about the potential for storage of
byproducts outside the
structure
and during the commission's discussions
with the applicant mr renaud emphasized
that there would be no outside storage
of
non-non-processed by-products
it is understood that all slaughtering
would take place inside the structure
and that a valid virginia department of
health permit for the septic system is
required for the virginia department of
agriculture and consumer services to
certify the facility and the products
mr renaud indicated that he was a
minimal to a condition that would limit
the number of animals which would be
cows and hogs
processed to 25 per week
on a vote of one to four or four to one
the commission voted to recommend
approval of the special used permit with
conditions
and i'm happy to review those now if
you'd like or wait until later
okay um
and i actually have a question regarding
the
limit of 25 per week
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what is the
reasoning for that
um i believe that the commission um
felt that they didn't want to leave it
completely open-ended it was not that
they don't want to see the activity
thrive
but um
since mr renaud had um
indicated that that was acceptable to
him
um
i think they just wanted to have some
demonstration that um all you know the
installation and the operation
were all
that the facilities were adequate to
support the use
do you have any anybody have any other
questions before we hear the applicant
great
thank you
just so i understand
can we review the conditions of the
approval i wasn't aware
besides the eliminating the 25. okay
yeah is what are the conditions
uh yes i'm sorry i was thinking mr
renaud had received a copy of the staff
report i know that i didn't um forward
there
i just didn't know that there was
i'm sorry i didn't hear what you said
but i i will review them um so for the terms of the special use permit
is to this permit is to allow operation
of a livestock slaughtering and
processing facility on tax map parcel
57-34
controlling documents shall be the
documents submit it with the application
date at january 26 2021
and the conditions as set forth herein
use and development of the subject
property shall be in substantial
conformance with these conditions the
zoning administrator shall determine
substantial conformance
the property owner slash facility
operator shall be responsible for
obtaining all required county licenses
site plan approvals building permits
health permits virginia department of
transportation permits zoning permits
storm water permits and erosion sediment
control permits as may be applicable
a 30 inch stop sign she'll be installed
along with a 24 inch wide thermoplastic
stop bar at the exit of the commercial
entrance
the mailbox location shall be adjusted
to ensure that it does not block
intersection site distance to the south
of the entrance
storage of non-processed by-products
shall be in barrels stored inside the
building there shall be no outside
storage of such by-products
virginia department of agriculture and
consumer services certification shall be
maintained
this special use permit shall be issued
to the applicant and is not transferable
to a subsequent operator or property
owner the number of animals to be
slaughtered shall be limited to 25 per
week
okay thank you
why is
the page that's in front of you is from
sandra's
staff report that is prepared for the
planning commission public hearing
item f was not added until the planning
commission's public hearing at the
planning commission's recommendation
sandra summarized that in her action
memo and then i have it contained in the
draft ordinance for the board's
consideration okay
it appears it was also in the resolution
that the planning commission adopted yes i remember
i don't know why we include this in our
workbench right the full staff report
yeah i mean
it should be updated the staff report
this is a staff report to the planning
commission yes the staff report should
be updated for the board of supervisors
this is a memorandum of the orange
county planning commission
and this this if this is included in the
packet at all because
you know
i'm two decades in on having this
conversation where how come it's not on
here
this was at the front of the pack it
should be at the back of the pack if
anywhere okay and an updated one should
be able to say uh supplemental report
for the uh it's a supplemental memo but
i mean it was should go to the board of
supervisors which would include all the
changes that the planning commission
made
so anyway i just
would request that staff consider
perhaps changing the way they do that
so
we don't ask to have questions every
time it comes up okay
did you have any other comments or
concerns
no sir uh
as far as any of those concessions or
stipulations or requirements none of
those are
25 animals a week
again
we are battling a little bit of a
stereotype with the industry and
truthfully for us to get above that
capacity i have to come back in front of
the board and request to build
additional structures and and
within and room to do that so
um i was fine with the 25 capacity okay
so the 25 is
truly based on the current structure and
capacity that you have yes
and you would have to come back in a
minute you'd have to get building
permits and everything and then come
back
yes originally mr chairman
mr renault it kind of laid it out that
there was going to be
so many so many hugs and not to exceed this many
cows or whatever and so actually
it was simple the process was simplified
a little bit to set 25 ounces we don't
really care whether it's with the mix
between hogs and cows or
sheep or whatever it is right so and and
our thinking is that
again we
know there's some very stereotype and
history with the industry
we figured that gave everyone a little
bit of ease
and allowed to go through a little
smoother and we didn't think it was a
very big concession
what is your background in this type of
business uh
it's not uh terribly long i uh
out of the marine corps i spent uh 20
years in the
power industry um
got engaged to the local farmer's
daughter and uh tried some of the beef
from the farm that
i've never had before straight you know
straightened my farm the table
was blown away with it so i
just took that idea and started a
company and started labor and beef and
buying from local producers
from my own form
um
took that label had some success with it
and
the first limitation of building a label
like that or that
part of that industry is uh inventory
control so after co bid
i was lucky enough because of some
things we were planning in march
i committed to eight dates a month with
fall care science
and
right after pandemic did march
everything got hooked up for 2020 and
now they're currently booked through
2021
with the with my motivation to build a
label and a business that's uh slightly
separate from the piedmont process
we knew that we just had to get control
over our own process what what capacity
does
process what does their capacity
probably be our that's we are three
month processing all of yours is um
yes sir they're 130 to 150 a week
and um
again they're booked through 2021
12 under 22. and
if you're familiar with their facility
as far as footprint it
truthfully does not take large square
footage to process
the report
your square footage is cooler wall and freezer space
i'm friends with the owner of your slime
so i have a lot of guidance through some
of these
systems or processes
we're working with vdx
and have continued to work with
usda
we're waiting for kind of a ruling from
them hopefully in the next couple days
in fact to apply to both or can i
operate under usda custom exam but
in the end it's really the same process
i may just be able to avoid having to
deal with it
on the state level um but that's for the
custom exam so our goal is to
our approval of this sup we are going to
finish the really start the construction
of the walk-in coolers um we discussed
this building apartment and everything
else so we feel like we have our adults
in a row for that um
as soon as we have the coolers built
we're going to open up under a custom
exam
which either through usda or through vdx
is an inspection process which
meets the guidelines of my special use
immediately after that we are going to
start the state inspection process our
ultimate goal is to get the state
inspection because it allows me as my
label the producer to get my product
market and also allows
other local area farmers to
actually take their product to the
market for reason
one question that came up uh
several weeks ago in discussions
to my understanding you were you were
not going to be processing uh
game animals of any kind or that at this
point
these are all animals that
you would slaughter on site and
process them
we are allowed to do it
um they have some guidelines and some
time space separations uh for equipment
and everything else but with the demand
for the beef and pork it doesn't make
any sense to
deal with that game what type of storage
are you going to use for your rendering
dot products that all everything all the
by-products go into 55-gallon drums
everything besides the only thing we're
putting into the to the ground or
anything else that's great water
in the blood
i've got the environmental engineer that
came out and did the survey of our
septic system
and this is the letter that i'm
resubmitting with the department of
health to approve our septic system
it's not bad for the
liquid protein that's not bad for a
septic system so we're required to do
two pump outs a year very simple very
straightforward um
in the event there's any issue with that
our immediate backup is tank and ground
tank and that'll be treated just like
the 55 gallon drones um but we already
have the approval for the scepter system
i think the ground tank would be
something we'd have to fight when we
wanted to expand the capacity
um
valley protein
takes all of that and we have to keep
that in control temperature
yes
so that will stay indoors they do stay
indoors yes sir and we have to buy a
contract with them
the amount they charge us
for
uh
rotten byproducts or spoiled
um
thank you very much sir yes sir
thank you for your time
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sir mr chairman and we did not receive
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either
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mrs simpson
roll call vote yes sir mr freeze aye
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myself for asking the same stupid
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