1 00:00:27,310 --> 00:00:35,250 Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the September 2,026 Board of Selectman meeting. 2 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:59,040 You've had to have an emergency. The door to my right, the audience's left is the main, means of egress, up to the rear of the town hall, if for some reason you choose to go another way. The hallway straight down the back, would put you out by the firehouse, or up the stairs behind the wall, with the clock on it through the double 3 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:07,100 doors and outward put you out in front of the town hall, with that said, please rise for 4 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:07,800 the pledge. 5 00:01:09,820 --> 00:01:15,820 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and it's just a republic of 6 00:01:15,820 --> 00:01:22,360 a British stance on nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. 7 00:01:32,090 --> 00:01:36,890 And as my phone just dinged in my pocket, remember to shut your phone to 8 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,300 start on my left 9 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:52,300 there tonight. Good evening, Mitch Goldblatt. Bill Crowe. 10 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Jack Randler. Oh, and weaver town council. And any secretary to the board? 11 00:01:58,140 --> 00:01:58,780 Judy Smith. 12 00:01:59,380 --> 00:02:01,720 Pigeationally. Okay. 13 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,580 So nobody has not left us yet. Thank you. 14 00:02:05,940 --> 00:02:10,720 Public participation. Public participation is for any item that is not in the agenda item. 15 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,320 We allow two minutes per speaker on any item. 16 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,360 Well, you're first tonight, holy moly. 17 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:26,630 Tom Paisano, 523, Fairway Road, Orange Connecticut, for those of you who don't know me, 18 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:30,670 but 40 years ago, we started Orange Soccer Association, and I've been in the presence 19 00:02:30,670 --> 00:02:31,510 ever since. 20 00:02:32,350 --> 00:02:34,390 So I appreciate all them help through the years. 21 00:02:34,950 --> 00:02:40,330 I just wanted to come up here to recognize Chris Small, Chris Small, works with Park 22 00:02:40,330 --> 00:02:47,370 and Rick, and he took it on his own to patch some pot holes on what have you at the 23 00:02:47,370 --> 00:02:54,050 at Fred Wolfe and it's nice they did that. They don't have anything in their budget and it's 24 00:02:54,050 --> 00:02:58,730 too much to a long stretch to ask highway department because they don't have money to 25 00:02:58,730 --> 00:03:05,810 pave their streets. This particular fiscal year so we had to do it we can't. It was not 26 00:03:05,810 --> 00:03:11,470 successful so long reason I'm saying that in a negative sense is because I'm sure myself 27 00:03:11,470 --> 00:03:16,510 and all of the board members will be getting some sort of emails from parents because they're 28 00:03:16,510 --> 00:03:23,810 start this week going there as they did last last year of fall for their soccer practice in games. 29 00:03:25,550 --> 00:03:31,750 So we can do what we can do better. I know we can probably do something in this next fiscal 30 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:39,290 budget. Either part in REC or how we department, but I'm not asked Donnie for you. He's helped us 31 00:03:39,290 --> 00:03:44,290 before there. So thank you. Then just for what it's worth in case you get emails. Thanks. 32 00:03:45,690 --> 00:03:51,110 Just in response to that, that's definitely not correct. 33 00:03:52,050 --> 00:04:01,860 They have the ability to reline those lots if they needed to. 34 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:09,900 If it was broad, I have not been to that property since the slow and steady development was 35 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:15,360 taken away from me and turned over to engineers to do it. 36 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:29,100 So I couldn't tell you, but I can go down there and take a look, but to say they don't have money is not correct, because they definitely do and we can do better at that time, so I'll take a look at it because when I was doing it, you never had that problem. 37 00:04:30,220 --> 00:04:32,500 So, what the will handle it? Is there anybody else? 38 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:33,840 Yes. 39 00:04:36,380 --> 00:04:38,800 But you're not going to go long-wind it on flock tonight, right? 40 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,600 I'm going to be... 41 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,520 I got two minutes. 42 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,100 Eric Meason, three simply, was a road. 43 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,540 I just wanted to check in real quick, and just make sure that I clarify a public perspective 44 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:54,340 that has, it's told me a little bit since our last meeting, right? 45 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,540 Because the mayor of New Haven came out and said, oh, don't worry, we don't use flock we use and then named one of the competitors. 46 00:05:00,220 --> 00:05:04,540 I want to be very clear that when we say that we're worried about these cameras, we don't mean that we're just worried about flock. 47 00:05:04,820 --> 00:05:09,340 We're worried about axon, and all of the others, motorola, all the competitors, recore. 48 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,920 When we say we don't want them, we're saying it like you might ask for a clean-ax when you mean a facial tissue. 49 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,040 And I would advise that you don't just look at the sales flyer, that they're selling you, 50 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:23,380 but also look at what these companies are saying to their investors and the people behind the room. 51 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:29,020 Because, for example, one of these companies that's involved in these sorts of surveillance activities, 52 00:05:29,980 --> 00:05:32,280 Anthropics Security Program Manager has recently said, 53 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,440 the goal would be transforming operations from reactive information together in proactive and predictive 54 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,740 and preventative threat engagement and management. 55 00:05:39,740 --> 00:05:46,520 And that is the kind of 24-7 AI powered and opticon that we are speaking against that we are worried about. 56 00:05:46,540 --> 00:05:47,900 Where they're saying, yes. 57 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,940 Oh, you gotta use a good word if we're going to invoke, you know, or well. 58 00:05:52,800 --> 00:06:05,600 You know, that's what worries us that we're putting these systems into place that are one software update away from streaming all the data into what they're actively telling their investors they are working to develop right now. 59 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,220 that is what they're aiming at, and that's why we need to be careful with these systems. 60 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,700 Okay, thank you. 61 00:06:11,020 --> 00:06:20,380 And my response to that will be, we responded to flock because that was who our contract was with. 62 00:06:20,740 --> 00:06:28,840 But I also think that our police department, our board of select men, and many others, 63 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:39,920 whether it be flock or any of those other names that he just mentioned, we understand that 64 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:46,120 there's a problem in a concern with this, so we wouldn't be entering into any agreements 65 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,780 with any of the others as well as flock. 66 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,890 Like I said, you were talking to Jim Haragrement was with flock, so that's why we refer it 67 00:06:54,890 --> 00:07:01,490 However, the police and this board have learned their lesson that there's a lot of concerns 68 00:07:01,490 --> 00:07:10,250 that surfaced after this started to bubble and so that wouldn't happen and you would 69 00:07:10,250 --> 00:07:13,890 know about it because this board would know about it. 70 00:07:13,970 --> 00:07:21,670 It's not something that the chief or myself individually would be party to. 71 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:29,390 at some point though we are going to proceed we put it on slow roll at the moment. 72 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:37,440 My direction to Attorney Weaver. Some people don't understand the difference and I didn't understand 73 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,040 the difference quite honestly in the beginning between the red light cameras, which are a traffic 74 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:48,760 speed and light running camera, and the flock camera, which is just continually taking photos of 75 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:56,200 every vehicle as it's clicking by. The red light cameras are selective. They are for 76 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:05,760 speeders and for light runners and if and when we do consider that to install those, those 77 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:14,460 will be done and I am an advocate for those, but in select locations root 34 at Dogwood 78 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:21,360 Dog Burn, Race Pro, possibly even out in front of what we call Mike Skorage by the junior 79 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:30,400 high. You know, all the main intersections over there, and possibly up on Marshall, 80 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:33,520 where 81 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,960 you go up and then there's the light by UI, and that was not so bad with runners, but 82 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,900 the next one. There's a lot of runners. It would be select locations. You're not going 83 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:49,660 to see, like, no-for-did, where they have, what did I hear there? 96 cameras or something all over 84 00:08:49,660 --> 00:08:57,800 their city. That is not happening in orange. That's not happening. But if you've had friends 85 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:05,400 or family that have been in accidents injured or killed as I for one have on Route 34, 86 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:12,580 you understand the need for those. People are like, well, there was some commentary on social 87 00:09:12,580 --> 00:09:18,540 media. Well, we need more police presence there. Police need to do more. If a police officer 88 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:24,080 pulls over one car that runs through the red light. By the time he pulls that car over, 89 00:09:25,020 --> 00:09:32,680 license registration runs the information, writes the ticket, etc., etc., you've lost an hour, 90 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:41,380 whereas a red light camera can do 5, 10, 15, whatever the number may be in minutes and it's recording 91 00:09:41,380 --> 00:09:52,060 them. So it is to enhance safety and speed control, traffic control, not to hinder it in that 92 00:09:52,060 --> 00:09:57,680 case. The flock one, just clicking everybody's plate, as it goes by so that you might 93 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:05,420 yet somebody who caused a crime or something, that's slip. So there's a big difference 94 00:10:05,420 --> 00:10:11,360 there that people have to understand. And they have to be used judiciously and sensibly 95 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,740 A lot of complaints have come in and know for it about Woodruff Road. 96 00:10:15,460 --> 00:10:19,020 Anybody who's familiar if you go Old Tavern Road, take a left on to Woodruff Road. 97 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:24,560 You're now in Millford and our speed limit is 35 as soon as you're heading down Woodruff 98 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:24,860 Road. 99 00:10:25,180 --> 00:10:31,400 It's 25 and people are getting nailed there, constantly. 100 00:10:32,180 --> 00:10:33,100 It's really ridiculous. 101 00:10:33,380 --> 00:10:40,260 It's a boulevard of a road, so you have to be sensible about it, but anyhow those are my 102 00:10:40,260 --> 00:10:40,620 thoughts. 103 00:10:45,910 --> 00:10:47,210 Trust me, Eric. 104 00:10:47,690 --> 00:10:49,500 You will be the first one to understand that. 105 00:10:50,290 --> 00:10:50,390 Yes. 106 00:10:50,770 --> 00:10:51,630 Come on up. 107 00:10:54,540 --> 00:10:55,040 Absolutely. 108 00:11:02,290 --> 00:11:04,790 Randy Swire's 721 North Green Breyer. 109 00:11:05,910 --> 00:11:07,910 I can't talk in right at the same time. 110 00:11:09,190 --> 00:11:10,090 First of all, thanks. 111 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:11,990 I know I've been bombarding you guys with some emails. 112 00:11:12,330 --> 00:11:14,550 I appreciate you responding to that. 113 00:11:15,610 --> 00:11:18,850 Just because in the past month there's been a lot of towns 114 00:11:18,850 --> 00:11:25,050 we've had similar forms, the term pause has been used a lot for all these different government 115 00:11:25,890 --> 00:11:26,410 systems. 116 00:11:26,910 --> 00:11:32,530 I just wanted to clarify, when we last month, when we voted to pause, because you know, 117 00:11:32,590 --> 00:11:36,510 millford said pause and they took down select cameras, but when we said pause, we're not 118 00:11:36,510 --> 00:11:43,270 expanding further on those ALPR camera numbers, we're just keeping steady at the number 119 00:11:43,270 --> 00:11:43,990 that we have. 120 00:11:43,990 --> 00:11:48,070 to not even installing the ones that weren't installed yet. 121 00:11:48,070 --> 00:11:48,610 Understood. 122 00:11:49,510 --> 00:11:51,630 That is a complete flat stop. 123 00:11:52,570 --> 00:11:55,190 Because then November, this board 124 00:11:55,190 --> 00:11:59,210 has got to discuss that amongst our six here. 125 00:11:59,550 --> 00:12:03,910 And the contract runs out, the end of December, oh, and was it? 126 00:12:04,070 --> 00:12:04,510 Was it not? 127 00:12:04,730 --> 00:12:07,270 Yeah, it's for one year of term that ends in December, 128 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:10,910 and was in 20 seconds or something in the 20s. 129 00:12:10,910 --> 00:12:13,830 So at our November meeting, this group, 130 00:12:13,830 --> 00:12:16,410 because we've heard so many people so much, 131 00:12:16,910 --> 00:12:18,570 that I think the information is there 132 00:12:18,570 --> 00:12:21,310 and they have to decide, you know, 133 00:12:21,470 --> 00:12:23,070 is this a plus or a minus? 134 00:12:23,650 --> 00:12:26,030 But at this point, no more of being installed or anything. 135 00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:28,530 It's when we say pause, it's flat. 136 00:12:30,770 --> 00:12:30,950 Yes. 137 00:12:31,050 --> 00:12:31,670 Question on that. 138 00:12:31,790 --> 00:12:34,510 Because make sure we're all understanding the same thing 139 00:12:34,510 --> 00:12:36,210 and we answer Randy's question appropriately. 140 00:12:38,290 --> 00:12:47,570 We paused for the time being, the new, additional flock cameras that we had voted on, I think, in July or something like that. 141 00:12:47,870 --> 00:12:47,890 Correct. 142 00:12:48,070 --> 00:12:53,910 But there were, or still are, other cameras, flock cameras in this town that have not been paused. 143 00:12:54,250 --> 00:12:54,630 Am I correct? 144 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:56,590 The ones about the highway are still functioning. 145 00:12:56,870 --> 00:13:05,810 I'm going to make sure there's no misconception that we don't have any cameras working in the town of Orange with flock or Recore, 146 00:13:05,810 --> 00:13:09,610 whoever it is, we still do, we just didn't add to it 147 00:13:09,610 --> 00:13:11,210 as we had voted on in July. 148 00:13:11,730 --> 00:13:12,850 I'm pause those. 149 00:13:13,130 --> 00:13:15,010 I'm going to make sure, on the same page, 150 00:13:15,050 --> 00:13:16,570 and there's no misconceptions here. 151 00:13:17,150 --> 00:13:19,570 And there are two that we're existing already. 152 00:13:19,810 --> 00:13:20,870 There are three things. 153 00:13:21,430 --> 00:13:21,910 There's two. 154 00:13:21,910 --> 00:13:22,350 There's two. 155 00:13:22,470 --> 00:13:25,590 The contract was for five, but only two, 156 00:13:25,590 --> 00:13:27,350 if I recall my conversations, that she 157 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:28,050 for installed. 158 00:13:28,950 --> 00:13:31,450 And how long have we had the ones that we've already had? 159 00:13:31,710 --> 00:13:32,310 Two years. 160 00:13:32,390 --> 00:13:33,290 They've been there two years. 161 00:13:34,390 --> 00:13:41,530 I don't know if that's two minutes, I'll just quickly add, you know, I am okay with these 162 00:13:41,530 --> 00:13:46,890 cameras that catch crime specifically, right, that are, you know, school bus cameras is 163 00:13:46,890 --> 00:13:50,850 another great example, right, you know, they only go off once the red lights are flashing, 164 00:13:51,710 --> 00:13:54,390 so there's no ambiguity in which data is being collected. 165 00:13:55,050 --> 00:13:57,990 So you're saying crime, you mean speed or light runners? 166 00:13:58,710 --> 00:13:58,890 Yeah. 167 00:14:00,310 --> 00:14:01,070 So just not. 168 00:14:01,070 --> 00:14:02,590 I just said there's the two different. 169 00:14:03,630 --> 00:14:04,610 Yeah, I understand that. 170 00:14:04,630 --> 00:14:06,610 I mean, I've gotten snagged on what you're 171 00:14:06,610 --> 00:14:09,010 if myself seems a little bit, you know, 172 00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:11,290 I think I helped pay for some of the no-for-it-school districts, 173 00:14:11,330 --> 00:14:13,850 renovations, but I'll all spare that, Grant. 174 00:14:14,190 --> 00:14:14,930 So, thank you. 175 00:14:15,030 --> 00:14:16,070 All right, thank you, Randy. 176 00:14:16,130 --> 00:14:17,030 It's anybody else? 177 00:14:17,830 --> 00:14:19,370 If not, anybody at the table? 178 00:14:20,490 --> 00:14:23,350 Yeah, just briefly, on behalf of my family, 179 00:14:23,510 --> 00:14:26,830 I just wanted to thank friends and family 180 00:14:26,830 --> 00:14:29,750 who came to my mom's celebration of life. 181 00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:35,370 We were humbled by the turnout and we just thank everyone for being there. So thanks again 182 00:14:36,910 --> 00:14:40,670 Okay, sure. These days October 24th 183 00:14:41,410 --> 00:14:44,030 I just want that people know. Okay 184 00:14:44,030 --> 00:14:45,010 Anybody else 185 00:14:45,630 --> 00:14:47,690 And we have a couple things here 186 00:14:47,690 --> 00:14:49,710 We lost one good 187 00:14:49,710 --> 00:14:54,390 Member of our community Linda Cantor. I don't know if any of you know her 188 00:14:54,390 --> 00:14:59,690 She lived on Wellington Drive for many years. They suffered a Catholic catastrophic house fire there 189 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:19,560 Number, when I was in the fire department a hundred years ago and she was on our park and rec commission for years and years was a wonderful, wonderful family and she was a wonderful lady and was a great asset to our community and unfortunately her time has come. 190 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,920 So our thoughts are with the cancer family on that. 191 00:15:24,340 --> 00:15:26,800 And let's not forget what's coming up. 192 00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:30,300 Mr. Foyer always thinks the carnival is the most wonderful time of the year. 193 00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:36,920 I have to disagree, the Orange Country Fair, which is not this weekend coming. 194 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,200 The following weekend, the Friday night, it starts with people bringing in entries. 195 00:15:42,180 --> 00:15:48,740 There's a pickup truck pull, and then the main part of the fair is Saturday and Sunday. 196 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Friday night is there's no admission charge and the lower food tap will be serving, a limited 197 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:04,980 menu but we will be serving. I start preparing food. I think this Saturday, one week before 198 00:16:04,980 --> 00:16:10,020 I have over a thousand pounds of pork to cook and 300 pounds of chicken and a lot of 199 00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:16,400 lot of other stuff so Steve Beckman's already salivating over there. So yeah the fare will be here 200 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,940 It's the best thing in the world for orange. 201 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:22,460 OK. 202 00:16:22,940 --> 00:16:26,120 We have a memo from the town clerk. 203 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,200 Mrs. Shaw, the town clerk is currently 204 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,660 accepting applications for absentee ballots 205 00:16:32,660 --> 00:16:37,580 for the upcoming state election on November 3rd, 2026. 206 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,100 Absentee ballots will be available 207 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:50,130 beginning October 2, 2026. Please contact the town clerks office with any questions you may have. 208 00:16:50,980 --> 00:16:58,440 In addition, please note that early voting will take place from October 19th through November 1st 209 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:06,880 at the town hall. Please visit the town's website for additional information including early voting hours. 210 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:13,960 Just so they start taking the absentee ballot applications, but it sounds like they're going 211 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,740 out on October 2nd is what I read that document. 212 00:17:20,180 --> 00:17:31,180 The Orange Visiting Nurses event for our seniors in the community Friday, September 25th, 213 00:17:31,460 --> 00:17:35,780 from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. at the Community Center, they have blood pressure screening, 214 00:17:35,780 --> 00:17:42,280 vision screenings. Information product giveaways, refreshments, and raffles. That is on Friday, 215 00:17:42,580 --> 00:17:46,280 September 25th from 10 a.m. to noon. 216 00:17:49,260 --> 00:17:53,580 Then we have funtober at the fairgrounds. 217 00:17:53,740 --> 00:18:04,580 Is Sunday, October 25th, 2026 from 1 to 330 p.m. It's a trunk or treat with free raffle ticket 218 00:18:04,580 --> 00:18:12,860 back in candy with vehicle registration, prizes for the best decorated vehicle. I think that 219 00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:28,280 to register your car to participate. It is 203-891-478-4 and I think the lion's club might even 220 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,540 have a car, trucker treated at that with that. 221 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,680 Instead of giving out turkeys, give out candy. 222 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:46,400 I have one last thing that the world is on fire around here with all these, they're not 223 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:54,640 all kids, young people, very young people, middle-aged people, the e-bikes, e-bikes and 224 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:01,660 scooters. Those, like those vespos scooters are up and down the poster. I actually saw 225 00:19:01,660 --> 00:19:06,600 this a state trooper had when pulled over on the parkway the other day. But they're out 226 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:12,140 driving in the lanes as if they're a full-fledged vehicle like any other car or Harley Davidson. 227 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:20,440 They aren't. But the kids on the e-bikes and the deckboards and these type of things, 228 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:27,640 it's absolutely frightening. A lot of these kids are young. They have no knowledge of the 229 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,440 road and road safety. It's to the point of being scary. 230 00:19:35,780 --> 00:19:39,380 And I've yelled at kids, spoken to kids, 231 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:47,420 a resident here in town sent the board a couple emails with challenges about it. 232 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:56,960 You know, and parents out there, you're buying these kids, these bikes and means of transportation. 233 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,560 And you're just letting them go. 234 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,120 Here you go honey, you got to help it. 235 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:01,460 Get on it and go. 236 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,460 Please educate your children. 237 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:08,940 We had one young person already hit on the post road. 238 00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:16,320 got banged up in suffer life for limb, but got pretty banged up. 239 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:26,680 So Officer Lendizio, I think he's one of our sergeants, he set me the information I asked him 240 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:34,920 before and he emailed it to me. And so we have this, but at least all of the information about 241 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:40,520 the e-bikes, the rules and regulations, the different sizes and all, Mr. Hackman, you 242 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Would you like this, maybe you could do something with it? 243 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:44,740 All right. 244 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,640 I will, and we'll email you a copy of this. 245 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:55,940 Maybe we can get something in the paper, I mean, but please, parents, please, you've heard 246 00:20:55,940 --> 00:20:58,180 me say this month after month. 247 00:20:59,780 --> 00:21:03,280 Let's keep our children safe just because they have a helmet on their head. 248 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:08,340 That doesn't offer a lot of resistance to somebody coming down the road in their F350. 249 00:21:08,340 --> 00:21:14,700 You know, I mean it, please, let's think about that a little bit. 250 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:23,500 That's true, otherwise it's very good, you're right. 251 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:30,660 Minutes to consider an act on the minutes of the August 12th, 2026 meeting, or any errors 252 00:21:30,660 --> 00:21:33,480 emissions or corrections, if so, state, page and paragraph, 253 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:39,980 all in favour? 254 00:21:40,660 --> 00:21:40,760 Aye. 255 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,800 Post, stain, unanimous. 256 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:49,860 New business, item number one, to consider and act that and request for the Lions Club to 257 00:21:49,860 --> 00:21:55,320 wave the customary rental and custodial fees for their annual Thanksgiving dinner schedule 258 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:02,800 for Sunday, November 29th, 2026 at the High Plains Community Center and Mr. Muddit is here 259 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,540 from the Orange Lions to put a pitch out there for this. 260 00:22:06,940 --> 00:22:13,780 Yes, Michael Muddit, for 12-Vergy Road Orange Connecticut, trustee with the Lions Club and 261 00:22:13,780 --> 00:22:24,780 Every year the lines are delighted to provide a Thanksgiving dinner the Sunday after Thanksgiving primarily for the seniors of Orange, but no one has turned away. 262 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,980 And if a senior brings a grandchild, there is welcome as anybody. We love. 263 00:22:30,050 --> 00:22:37,850 During this every year, and I believe last year we miscounted, we believe this is our 40th year doing this. 264 00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:42,990 So we're hoping to have a few extra decorations or something just to make it special. 265 00:22:44,550 --> 00:22:47,990 It makes one of the wonderful things about the town of Orange. 266 00:22:49,150 --> 00:22:55,610 And this year, we've actually, I would like to thank the Orange Foundation, give us a grant to help pay for this. 267 00:22:55,610 --> 00:23:01,630 because it's with cost of food and everything else's prices are going up and it's getting expensive. 268 00:23:02,170 --> 00:23:07,690 But the orange foundation said they love to help us out and they gave us a nice grant to help to 269 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:14,850 fright-free a lot of the costs, but so with the help of the board, if they can wave our fees, 270 00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:21,330 we'll be home free and we're ready to start working at it. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. 271 00:23:21,330 --> 00:23:25,050 Motion approved, all-favor, both, 272 00:23:25,710 --> 00:23:28,430 staying unanimous. 273 00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:31,290 Item number two, to consider an act on request 274 00:23:31,290 --> 00:23:38,490 to approve the tax refunds totaling $28,325 and $66. 275 00:23:40,330 --> 00:23:42,350 Any questions on that? 276 00:23:42,970 --> 00:23:44,630 I've agreed, didn't want to make a donation. 277 00:23:46,170 --> 00:23:46,350 What? 278 00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:49,050 I said, I've agreed, didn't want to make a donation to us. 279 00:23:49,490 --> 00:23:49,970 Yeah, right. 280 00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:53,090 They do three and a half million a year, so. 281 00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:54,150 Motion approved. 282 00:23:54,190 --> 00:23:54,450 Second. 283 00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:55,990 OK. 284 00:23:56,970 --> 00:23:57,830 All those in favor? 285 00:24:00,250 --> 00:24:07,110 The next one is to review of proposed housing growth plan working group. 286 00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:09,550 All ones going to address this one. 287 00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:13,770 I think the zoning commission acted on it. 288 00:24:14,050 --> 00:24:14,510 And now it's. 289 00:24:15,050 --> 00:24:17,370 Yeah, so this is a second part last meeting. 290 00:24:17,370 --> 00:24:25,130 you guys voted on the traffic district, that's one part, but real briefly for the board's benefit 291 00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:32,070 in the public. Public Act 25-1, which was enacted in the special session last year, requires 292 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:37,570 all municipalities to adopt and submit for approval to the Office of Policy and Management 293 00:24:37,570 --> 00:24:43,090 Housing Growth Plan. What's a housing growth plan? It's a document that needs to be prepared 294 00:24:43,090 --> 00:24:50,830 that demonstrates and explains how a municipality is going to plan for and implement changes 295 00:24:50,830 --> 00:24:54,970 in their housing stock and how they're going to increase housing opportunities. 296 00:24:55,790 --> 00:24:57,110 A municipality has two options. 297 00:24:57,770 --> 00:25:03,350 You can either adopt the local Council of Governments Plan or it can create its own plan. 298 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:08,670 The deadline for orange is to submit its own plan or go with the South Central Council 299 00:25:08,670 --> 00:25:16,290 government's regional plan is June 1, 2020, 9. I know that's a far time away, but this is a 300 00:25:16,290 --> 00:25:24,390 lengthy process. The act required OPM to issue guidelines on the form and level of detail 301 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:30,270 that are required for a housing growth plan. OPM issued preliminary guidelines in May, 302 00:25:30,670 --> 00:25:35,930 and then revised guidelines in July of this year, and the revised guidelines suggested that 303 00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:40,990 municipalities form a working group to develop these housing growth plans, and that was my 304 00:25:40,990 --> 00:25:47,490 recommendation to the first selectment. The recommendation from OPM was a committee consisting 305 00:25:47,490 --> 00:25:54,670 of five to ten members of the community to help the guy the planning process, and that committee's 306 00:25:54,670 --> 00:25:59,310 task will be the developed housing growth plan for the town. Again, real high level, there's 307 00:25:59,310 --> 00:26:04,750 four components to the plan, the developer land inventory, what land and town can be developed 308 00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:09,570 for housing. What are the state and regional housing needs assessments that will be 309 00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:14,930 promulgated by OPM later this year? A suitability analysis that this committee will have 310 00:26:14,930 --> 00:26:19,630 to do that and what type of housing is suitable for the available land stock that we have 311 00:26:19,630 --> 00:26:24,130 and then ultimately putting it together with recommendations that implement it. So with that, 312 00:26:24,130 --> 00:26:29,950 I'm happy to answer any questions, but again this is OPM's recommendation that towns form a work 313 00:26:29,950 --> 00:26:37,070 committee. The legislation doesn't say what bodies have to approve the plan before 314 00:26:37,070 --> 00:26:43,650 submit to OPM. My suggestion at this point in time would go before PNZ and this board 315 00:26:44,130 --> 00:26:45,910 to submit to OPM in 2020. 316 00:26:46,410 --> 00:26:52,170 So, with that, I'll answer any questions or just a quick one for your own. 317 00:26:52,170 --> 00:27:04,070 You mentioned the sense of entrepreneurial council governments that have they already started to work on the template or is that some we have to wait for before you look at it. 318 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:18,950 So they have the same June 1st deadline and they have to let when they ultimately publish theirs they have to give the municipality 30 days to tell the cog whether you want to join the cog plan or do your own. 319 00:27:21,630 --> 00:27:29,290 So unfortunately, I don't think we can just sit back and say, oh, is the cod plan going to be suitable for orange, which is one of the reason why I'm recommending a working group. 320 00:27:34,170 --> 00:27:38,760 And we're supposed to go into an executive session. 321 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:40,960 Oh, yeah. 322 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,820 I think the most of you are working really fast, proposed by the First Electon, which would include 323 00:27:46,820 --> 00:27:51,520 you to sit in front of you, called Fathlete St, with Galaxy Ackon or Sean Harsha. 324 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:52,420 Sorry. 325 00:27:53,220 --> 00:27:53,740 Make a motion. 326 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,000 Thank you. 327 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:56,620 Make a motion. 328 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,960 We approve the proposed housing growth plan working group that's been proposed by the First 329 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,820 Electon with the members being Judy Smith, Aussie Parenti, Paul Kaplan, Santo Galatio, 330 00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:13,660 and Sean Hartchorn. Ask a quick question. Jim, is that Santa Galatio to a senior junior? 331 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,400 Junior. Santa Galatio to a junior. Very good. That's the motion. 332 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:27,420 All clear? All right. I'm just trying to find out where the attorney is. 333 00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:31,040 The pass is, thank you. 334 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:41,180 So any hour is supposed to go into executive session with Attorney Ryan at three items. 335 00:28:41,340 --> 00:28:48,580 The first item is a memorandum of agreement concerning employment evaluation and health 336 00:28:48,580 --> 00:28:57,300 of a official and a disability pension application, physical exam, a tentative agreement with 337 00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:02,560 dispatch or union, which is opening up to them, I think, John Wright for it so that they can 338 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,420 join the eight. 339 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,940 Okay, tell me to go one minute. 340 00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:17,560 HSA plan, which the town has implemented, HSA health insurance plan, and the police union has 341 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,440 it, offered to them, 342 00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:29,080 and either of the other unions such as dispatchers tonight, and non-union, 343 00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:36,560 yet. So that'll leave a couple more unions to negotiate with. And then there's a release agreement 344 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:43,720 for a settlement or a pending for old injury claim. Those are the three items, but now we have to wait 345 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,700 the labor attorney. So in the meantime, if anybody has any questions, 346 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,160 take five minute 347 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,920 recess, Lauren. Motion to move into executive session. 348 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,300 Okay, motion is made to move into executive session by Mr. Goldblad at a second. 349 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,320 What is that? 350 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:08,680 Such a number of time with our clear counsel. 351 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,800 So, and we went into executive session, 352 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,580 Mitch made the motion, Judy made the second at 7.35. 353 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:25,680 And we're now out of executive session at 7.58, it looks like up there. 354 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:28,840 So we were in executive session. 355 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,620 We discussed three items, as I had said, and there's a possible vote on a memorandum of 356 00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:41,480 agreement on a settlement, a possible vote on a tentative agreement between the town and 357 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:48,100 the dispatcher's police dispatch union, regarding an HSA health account, and a possible 358 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:49,660 vote on a release agreement. 359 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:57,600 Those three items were discussed in executive session, and conclusion was positive, is there a motion to be made on those? 360 00:30:59,540 --> 00:31:06,940 First one is a motion to accept and approve a union memorandum of agreement, and to authorize the first 361 00:31:06,940 --> 00:31:09,480 select and execute a set agreement. 362 00:31:13,250 --> 00:31:15,090 Motion is made as there a second. 363 00:31:15,650 --> 00:31:15,790 Okay. 364 00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:16,730 All in favor? 365 00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:17,230 Aye. 366 00:31:17,670 --> 00:31:18,130 Post. 367 00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:20,470 Stay in unanimous. 368 00:31:20,650 --> 00:31:21,490 Item number two. 369 00:31:21,690 --> 00:31:25,610 Yeah, I can make a motion to accept and approve the tent of agreement, the dispatcher 370 00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:31,230 Union for an HSA agreement, and to authorize the first document execute, such agreement. 371 00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:35,170 Second, motion made in second bid. 372 00:31:35,470 --> 00:31:36,070 Any discussion? 373 00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:37,710 Seeing none all those in favor? 374 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:38,290 Aye. 375 00:31:38,650 --> 00:31:39,050 Pose. 376 00:31:39,610 --> 00:31:40,810 Stay in unanimous. 377 00:31:41,150 --> 00:31:41,890 Item number three. 378 00:31:42,210 --> 00:31:46,270 Yeah, I make a motion to accept and approve release agreement into authorize the first 379 00:31:46,270 --> 00:31:47,990 to execute set agreement. 380 00:31:48,750 --> 00:31:52,350 Motion is made, second is made, all in favor? 381 00:31:52,430 --> 00:31:52,970 Aye. 382 00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:53,050 Aye. 383 00:31:53,250 --> 00:31:53,670 Opposed? 384 00:31:54,510 --> 00:31:55,110 abstain? 385 00:31:56,210 --> 00:31:56,810 Enanimous? 386 00:31:57,690 --> 00:32:01,690 Because their motion to adjourn is their motion to adjourn at eight o'clock. 387 00:32:02,410 --> 00:32:03,750 Motion is made to adjourn. 388 00:32:03,910 --> 00:32:05,550 We are adjourn at eight o'clock.