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December
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1st, 2026. I'd like to call this meeting
to order and ask you please rise for the
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invocation and pledge of allegiance.
Father God, we thank you for this day.
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And Lord, as we are here gathering
together to do your work. I ask I just
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want to say thank you, Lord. We came
together as a community. We've prayed
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for you to allow us to avoid any
inclement weather or situations. And
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Lord, once again, you have seen us
through. continue to watch over any all
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of our constituents, all over our
surrounding communities, our neighbors
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and friends. Jesus name we pray. Amen.
>> Amen. I
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» pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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» All right, we will now move on to a
motion. Motion finding that the advanced
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posting and those requirements of
article 8.12000
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of the code of ordinances of the city of
Morris Texas have been met in relation
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to all minutes and pending ordinances
and resolutions on this agenda and that
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the reading of such items be confined to
the captions as are agreed upon by the
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ordinances and resolutions. Do I have a
motion?
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» Motion.
>> Can we have a motion in a second? Mr.
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Childs.
>> Hi.
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» Mr. Mortimer. Hi.
>> Mr. Chandler.
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» Hi.
>> Mr. Burch. Hi.
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» Miss Salter. Hi. Miss McKenna. I
>> K. Motion passes. On to item four,
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citizen comments. At this time, comments
will be taken from the audience on any
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subject matter, whether or not that item
is on the agenda. Our comments limited
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maximum of three minutes for each
speaker, and your comments are
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appreciated. A member of the audience
that desires to speak during the city
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council's consideration of any specific
agenda item is requested to notify city
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staff prior to the start of the meeting.
Right now, there are no names on my
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list, but is there anyone who would like
to approach council?
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Okay. If not, we will close that and
move to item five. Conduct a public
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hearing on the proposed fiscal year 2027
budget. Um, and so I must read the
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statement below. This budget will raise
less revenue from taxes than last year's
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budget by an amount of $171,525
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which is a 1.7%
of last year's budget. properties
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for new addition22,888.
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» So, it's a public hearing. We doesn't
I'm going to go over a few things. If
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there was a lot of public here, I'd go
over the presentation I already gave to
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y'all, but y'all have seen it, so we
won't do that. But, I was just gonna go
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over a couple of things before we open
it up for a public hearing. So just to
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remind you the budget is based on a
property tax rate of 866 which is less
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than last year.
>> Um so that means
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» that means
>> revenue is flat for property. Uh the
[3:01]
lower tax rate also direct directly
affects the IDC's so that's a little
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less
sales tax was is projected to be flat
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because it's been flat this year. Now
granted, we do I do hope I'm going to be
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hope hopeful that the new businesses
that are opening up now around town um
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we should be seeing that sales tax start
to kick in soon. So that's
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» I do expect the sales tax to go up, but
I can't quantify that. So I could not
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» project it. I didn't have anything to
base it on. So we didn't project that.
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So should we get more? Yeah, we should.
I don't know that. So I couldn't put it
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anyway. Um, so therefore revenues aren't
increasing. So we had to keep expenses
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» the same. All the departments heads did
really good. They got what they needed.
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Um, very little request for capital
outlay. Nothing really major. Um, but
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still inflation hits. You know, fuel
went up, electricity goes up, supplies
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go up, even our software, you know, it
all goes up. So, they've tried to trim
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in other areas to accommodate for those
types of inflationary items. Um, let's
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see. This budget does not include any
cola
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to keep the expenses down. Um, city
still in negotiations with police and
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fire. Don't forget that.
>> That's not in here because we don't
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know. We don't know what it'll be. So,
um, we do have a contingency fund as
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always built in the budget. So that is
there for these types of things but we
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did not put in the salaries yet. Um so
staff has presented the balanced budget
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means
>> expenditures should not exceed
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» resources right so revenues and
expenditures should be the same and if
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they're not which our expenditures are a
little more than our revenues so that
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means we're going to take a little bit
from revenue uh reserves
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» so that's like
41,165
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and in the general fund in $430,000 out
of the water and sewer fund.
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» So there's that. Um
staff listen to
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» all year to the council
>> uh to all the comments that were made at
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the the last year's public hearings. All
all year we try to do what you guys
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want. What what we hear
>> because we don't you don't always say it
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directly.
>> We hear that you wanted to lower taxes
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» which we proposed to do
>> and you wanted to lower expenses which
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we did do.
>> So we tried to do what was asked of us
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and so that's where we're at with this
budget.
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» Um the only thing I did want to maybe
explain I think we still have some
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confusion on reserves.
If if you'll indulge me a minute, I'll
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explain it a little. Um,
>> reserves. Some cities call it reserves.
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Some cities call it fund balance. Some
cities call it cash
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» in a the
>> Gazsby, which is our governmental
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accounting standards board. They give us
rules and regulations and pronouncements
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for my financial statements, for the
audit, that sort of thing. They don't
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govern the budget. So the budget is what
it is. It's a budget. So that
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terminology doesn't always flow down to
to the budget. So that's why cities can
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do whatever they want. They need to
follow their charter. They need to
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follow the local government code. But we
choose to use the word reserve.
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» You know, it could be fund balance. But
I I actually looked up a handful of
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cities and I have their print out right
here that they do it all differently.
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Some just beginning balance, ending
balance. That's it. That's all you get.
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Some don't even show that much. Some
show what we show. They'll show the
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operating reserve. Some show uh
beginning balance, ending balance,
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excess.
>> They don't say what they're going to do
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with it. They don't give you any other
>> explanation. So,
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we we are trying to give some detail
with our reserves, fund balance, however
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you want to call it
>> to help you. So really the fund balance
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is
>> assets minus liability. So in the
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business world it's equity.
>> So you know that you know that you know
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that. So that's what it is. It's really
what you could spend.
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» But we reserve
>> save savings account however you want to
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call it the operating reserve. Like we
want to make sure we have x amount of
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dollars set aside for disaster.
Could have [clears throat] been today.
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» Could have been today.
>> Could have been. Don't know. But uh so
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you know by policy it's 30%. City
manager. Yes. Amen.
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» Uh city manager likes 50%. So I'm just
trying to show you that if you look at
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our um financial statement, our audit
book, you'll see all those different
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terminologies for the that is prescribed
by the Gazsby for reserves. That's when
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we have to be specific. So governmental
funds um are the general fund, debt
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service, all of our special revenue
funds which are grant funds and such.
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They call it literally fund balance.
>> And it has a non-spendable, a
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restricted, assigned, committed, and
unassigned. And we have to put that
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amounts into those categories. Mostly
it's special revenue. The door is
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kicking in and out. um grant funds that
that is literally restricted grant funds
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we spend them we we put them aside we
don't spend those funds on anything
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except for what the grant tells us we
can like our CDBG grant or our egrants
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for like police equipment or whatnot so
those are restricted the other funds say
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like in our budget and we call it
>> uh capital outlay or whatever those
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Those are more assigned.
>> You could assign whatever you want. You
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could assign it to say,
>> you know,
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» unassigned. You don't have to assign it
at all.
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» If you, some of y'all have been here
long enough, if you remember before Mike
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got here, it used to just say operating
reserve and unassigned.
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» He likes to earmark it and try to
uh give it a use so that you can plan
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for the future. So, we call it capital
outlay. And then we try to the list or
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whatever, I do have to have a line for
debt service because of my debt service
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fund. So, those types of things, but in
the
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» when you when you were throwing around
things like restricted and other types
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of re uh reserves, that's those
terminologies are important in the
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financial statements.
>> It's different in the budget.
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» I don't know if I'm even making sense.
>> Okay. So, um, I just wanted to
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maybe clarify that a little bit because
I know we've had some confusion on that.
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Um, so what we what we set aside in the
operating, can we spend that?
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» Yes, you can. You can, we can.
>> We bring it to you and we ask you and
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then we go, yes, we're going to take it
out of reserves. We should not go below
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our 30% by policy, but
>> but
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» we could we could spend it down. Now,
you're supposed to only spend reserves
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down on capital outlay, one use items,
one one time use things like equipment
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or you know one things you're not
regular operating, not payroll, not
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electricity, all those things. So um
that's why the terminology is not
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» uh consistent across all the city's
budgets. They all do something different
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because it is that's not where it's
important. The important part is in the
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financial and that's when the auditors
are checking to see are you really
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restricting those funds are you spending
them on all the things. So we have to
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categorize that they check us and all
that.
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» So um
>> I don't know does that help on that?
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» Thank you. Okay. Yes.
>> So thank you.
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» Sure. So um that we just talked about
>> uh general fund just real quickly just
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water and sewer. Moving on. No rate
increase yet. As you know, we have a TCQ
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letter of enforcement. And as those
projects come in, we're going to go
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ahead, y'all agree to fund some of those
out of the water and sewer reserves.
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While we are wrapping our heads around
how much money do we need to borrow? And
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once we do, then we will decide on the
amount to borrow, the bond amount, the
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bond payment, and then we may have to
have a rate increase at that time. We're
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going to wait and see. We're going to
wait and see what happens. Now, the rate
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will go up slightly, six and a half%
because of the sanitation. Our rate is
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tied to the uh waste management
contract. We're in year four of five.
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So, we have one more year after this one
at six and a half%. with waste
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management. So um and also capital
improvement was very minimal minimal in
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water and sewer and any excess fund
balance reserve whatever you would like
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to call it will be used right now water
and sewer to fund these TCQ projects
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while we're getting everything ready for
um bond issue. So um that's my comments
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on the budget.
Um, if we had citizens here, we were
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gonna go through the slides that Mike
had, but we don't need to do that. So,
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does anybody have any questions?
>> Happy to help.
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» Okay. I thought we were still
>> I haven't public hearing, but that means
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we can all talk. It's public.
>> Okay. Yeah. You know, it's interesting
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that you said that. I had that
conversation with Mike and I wrote those
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things under GB4.
I looked them up and put a little time.
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Part of the reason that I I did that was
the fact in in the letter we had that
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discussion about incumbrance last time
and team
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» well
kind of ear what I kind of got out
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» and I said the reason I looked at this
was the fact that in the budget itself
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we we basically dropped
>> capital outlay which would cover any
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type of some some of the infrastru
that we need to do which I believe
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» I'm not sure if all of us but almost all
of us said something about
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infrastructure in our workshop we cut it
from 1.8 down to 500,000.
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» And then what happened? It came up into
the shows up for basically a million
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dollars for for some road work and then
also some more down in it with some
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other items such as fire trucks and
things of this nature. concern.
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» My concern with that is is the fact that
dealing with the public,
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their concerns are also some of our
infrastructure. I realize that we're in
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a we're no different than any other
cities in this area or around the
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country right now. We've got some
crumbling infrastructure that needs to
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be worked on.
But when I see that as that number goes
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down that some of these numbers are not
>> it's not that we can't
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» it's not that we can't do it, but I want
to make it a little
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for us to make that decision. In other
words,
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» if it's basically falls under the
assigned and or committed committed
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requires you to actually have a
resolution or something of that nature,
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right, to
>> you impose that legal restriction on
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yourself. Correct.
>> Assign does not require but it does
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require going back to the highest level.
>> But you we still would bring that back
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to you. So that's why when we did the
budget and there's
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» additional reserves fund balance left,
>> we don't decide the projects. Y'all do.
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So we just suggested some, you know,
roads, you know, just we just made a
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suggestion of fire truck. They need a
new fire truck, right? So, we made those
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suggestions, but they will bring that to
you a as it as it comes up or y'all can
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request to go ahead and start that road
project or whatever. We just we don't
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know right at this point when we make
this budget. So, we just made
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suggestions.
>> I just wanted to make sure that we had
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that mechanism in place because because
that was one of my concerns is the fact
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that we took it we took so so much out
of the budget and everybody For the most
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part, I'm not going to say everybody
because I can't say want.
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» Yes,
>> we need to have we're going to have to
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have those. I want to make sure I want
to make sure that that money comes from
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reserves is going to do it because it's
not in the
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» it's not in the budget, but it is um
assigned
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» as a project then y'all can definitely
>> assign it to infrastructure for
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whichever project. Correct.
>> Thank you.
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» So, I have one. So, thank you for
clarifying that. I had also wanted to
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So, I I know we have on our contingency
fund. Um, I had asked y'all when I met
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with you and Mike and sat down and
talked about the budget several times.
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So, for right now, while we are still in
deliberation or whatever y'all call
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that, negotiation, sorry, I don't know
why I said deliberation. I at least want
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to seek taking at least a 1% for the
city staff from the contingency. I think
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that you say it was about 200,000 for 1%
and I think we have about five. So I
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don't want because I had wanted to do 2%
but I don't want to drain that without
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even knowing what could possibly come
up. But at least for now I want to put
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it on record that for us to have
something to be able to give to them
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this year. But it would have to come
from the contingency
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» at this point.
>> If you if you want to increase an
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expenditure in this budget,
>> we need to take it from somewhere else.
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» So I want to take it from the
contingencies.
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» I want and I'm proposing that it has to
be passed.
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» Yes, you do have to say that.
>> I'm not
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» 881. So it's about 113 for general
government.
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So then I'm going go ahead and say 2%
>> 225.
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» Okay.
>> And then you were right the container
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still 500,000.
>> Okay. Thank you.
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» That's all
>> that's just that's all I have.
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» And we did have
>> remember at the very last minute uh Blue
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Cross lowered our HMO rate so we have
about $100,000 in savings.
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» That's why I wanted to make sure
>> shown in the budget because I didn't
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like we didn't get those numbers to
>> bring I wanted to bring it up that it's
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not from reserves. It's not from
anybody's
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» account. It's from contingency.
>> That's just my
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» So, do we have
>> do we have to open up to public hearing?
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» Yes. Just as officially let them say.
>> Okay.
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» So, is there anyone that would like to
say anything from the public?
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» Okay.
>> Then you can close it.
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» If not, we'll close that one and move to
item 6A. Conduct a public hearing on the
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proposed tax rate.
for fiscal year 2027. Announce the
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following date, time, and location.
Second reading and final vote on tax
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decrease September 8, 2026 at 9:00 a.m.
in the city council chambers, Orange
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Public Library. Miss Zto,
>> um once again, I'm not going to put up
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the presentation I probably hit y'all
with several times already this year,
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but we did propose 866, which is below
not only last year, but also below the
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no new revenue rate. So we effectively
have a tax decrease and we have a tax
[19:33]
decrease from last year because those
aren't always the same.
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» So that's at your pleasure.
>> Okay.
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» All right. So this is a public hearing
as well. Is there anyone from the public
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» or council?
>> Okay.
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» If not, we will close that. Move to
ordinances. 7A. Consider an ordinance
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adopting a budget for the fiscal year
beginning October 1st, 2026 and ending
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on September 30th, 2027 in accordance
with the charter of the city of Orange,
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Texas. Miss
>> with that prepared the budget the the
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ordinance for budgets come first, right?
So for the budget as proposed.
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» So
>> um what does he have to say to change
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that? And then but the next I'll have to
change the name.
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So again,
>> so again, yes, sir. You'd have to say u
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proposed to to pass the budget. You
know, I'm sorry. Vote to pass the budget
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as proposed with additional.
>> So you have a 2% cola taken from the
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contingency. Obviously have to have a
second and
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» you have it. You have the sheet so I
don't say it wrong or I can just say it
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like that.
>> I didn't I didn't I didn't make a sheet.
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» Okay. I'm sorry.
>> Well, is there are there any is there
[20:51]
any discussion before asked for a
motion.
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» Do we have a
>> a motion? So, the motion will be I'll
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make the motion. The motion is to
>> pass and adopt I mean to adopt the
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budget along with the cola of 2% for
city of Orange
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» general government
>> general government staff. Okay. So,
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that's a motion. Then we have a motion
and a second. It requires a record vote.
[21:19]
So, Mr. Childs
[21:24]
Mr. Mortimer
[21:31]
» struggling struggling with the company.
>> I'm gonna be quite honest.
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» Okay.
>> Reason I'm struggling with the cola is
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the fact that last year it was presented
to us that it was a 4% cola given along
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with the additional two steps even
though I realized we didn't fund one of
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them. And city manager said, "I want to
do it now because we don't know what
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we're going to be able to do in the
future." And the future has come. Future
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ran into situations with insurance tax
revenue businesses and so it's happen.
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And so it's just a struggle. Remember
this whether it's at 1% 2% 3 whatever it
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may be that's an ongoing thing from this
point in perivity as long as we're safe
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because it continues as part of it.
right now.
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» Okay.
>> So, may may I ask you if there's a no
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because you're saying it's the colog.
Are you saying that they I don't I'm
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trying to understand why not help them
if you felt like they didn't get what
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they needed last year.
>> No, they got they got that in.
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» Oh, okay. So, okay. I'm sorry.
>> Okay. I'm sorry. I just I was just like,
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wait, I didn't know. I'm sorry. No, sir.
No problem. And I'm not trying to judge
[22:47]
you. Please don't think that. I just I
want to make sure it's clear. Mr.
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Chandler,
>> no.
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» Okay. Mr. Bur,
>> hi.
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» Hey, Mr. I mean, Miss Salter,
>> um
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I'm with them on that. Uh we made a
decision last year. Okay.
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» So, it's a no for me.
>> Okay. Miss McKenna.
[23:06]
» Okay.
>> So, so
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» you need to
>> So, I need a vote, too.
[23:13]
» Okay. And I say yes.
is that that counts for our ordinance,
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right? That vote
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» that that vote is for the ordinance,
correct?
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» Okay.
>> The change my ordinance.
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» Okay. Just making sure.
>> Okay.
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» Okay. Just making sure.
>> Just want to make sure it was proper.
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» Okay.
>> So that All right. So that motion
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passes. We will move to item 7B.
Consider an ordinance making a tax levy
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and fixing the maintenance and
operations tax rate, debt service tax
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rate, and total tax rate for the city of
Orange, Texas for the fiscal year
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beginning October 1st, 2026 and ending
September 30th, 2027 upon all taxable
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property in the city of Orange, Texas on
January 1st, 2026 according to the laws
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of Texas, the charter provisions and the
ordinances of the city of Orange, Texas,
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and providing that the set taxes levied
shall be collected. And if anybody will
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make the motion, you'll have to read the
following motion. Miss,
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» so this is to propose the tax rate at
866, which I already said was lower than
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last year. And this is the cap. You
cannot go above it even if you want to.
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Like you're already set at 866. So I'm
leave it over to you,
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» mayor. I'll read the motion for us.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Childs.
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» Uh I make the motion. I move that the
property tax rate be decreased by the
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adoption of a tax rate of
0.86600
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per 100
>> dollars which is effectively a 06
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decrease in tax rate.
>> Thank you Mr. Childs. Do we have a
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second? Second.
>> Okay, we have a second. So we will go
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through again. Mr. Childs,
>> Mr. Mortimer. Hi.
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» Mr. Chandler. Hi.
>> Mr. M. Mr. Bur. Hi. Miss Salter. Miss
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McKenna. Hi. And I say I as well. Okay.
That motion passes. Do I have a motion
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to adjurnn? Meetings adjourned.