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to a future meeting

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and the city council

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uh will be going into a closed door

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session

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before the city council meeting.

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So, we'll have that note. Appreciate uh

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Lieutenant Jameson coming in a different

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time and appreciate his flexibility in

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doing that. But, that will give us some

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time to recover the

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um

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the closed door matter.

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So, with that

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I will turn the time over Oh, Steve, I

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Bieranowski?

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>> It was Bieranowski.

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>> Bieranowski.

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Okay. We're going to turn the time over

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to Mr. Bieranowski from HomeServe USA,

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and he's a manager of partner success.

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And HomeServe USA, they're the company

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that we partner with to do water and

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sewer line

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insurance. So, I'll turn it over to him.

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>> Thanks, Mary.

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Steve here. We've been working with

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Steve for quite some time since we

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started the program.

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And talking about saving water,

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these guys help our citizens save water

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in in a certain way.

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So, uh without further ado, I'm I'm kind

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of the liaison in essence.

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discuss different elements with

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I thought it might be a good point with

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um and the council hadn't

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actually talked with the council for a

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little while. I thought now would be a

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good time to uh come out and do that.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Well, thank you for having me. Yes, uh

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good afternoon. I'm Steve Bieranowski,

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your account manager for the sewer line

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program. Uh

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it's actually been uh quite a few years.

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I I believe 3 years since I've last

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addressed council, and it was uh

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well, just surpassed a million dollars

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in residential savings. So, um I'm very

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appreciative of you

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back and updating

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me on your program, cuz I do see a lot

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of new faces around since the last time

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I was out here. So, um

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you I can put a a name to the face of

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the program and I'll be happy to answer

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any questions that that have.

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I just really wanted to kind of talk

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about for anyone that's unfamiliar

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we are what we do as a program.

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Give me a little bit of program

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oversight and then dive into the the

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statistics for Orem

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and then kind of

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talk about ways that we can continue

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educating the residents of Orem that the program is out there. So,

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who we are, we

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partner with over 1,300 municipalities

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and utilities throughout the United

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States

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to really educate residents on their

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water and sewer responsibilities. Most

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people don't know

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the water and sewer lines are their

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responsibility until something happens

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and then the first thing they they tend

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to do is call City Hall and say, "Hey,

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I got guys in my front yard. You guys

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need to come fix it." Have to have that

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unfortunate conversation that it's on

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the private side. This is actually your

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responsibility.

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what we've been doing since 2015 is we

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partner with the city of Orem to send

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out direct mailers

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to your residents letting them know

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that, "Hey, your water and sewer lines

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are your responsibility

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and we offer optional coverage if

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residents are interested."

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2025 and it showed that, you know, 81%

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um residents or customers didn't have or

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had a home repair emergency in the last

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12 months and then one in four didn't

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have $500 in their account to

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be able to pay for any such emergency

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that would pop up.

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city of Orem, we have two coverages. The

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$8.07 a month and that is unlimited

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coverage. So,

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if a resident becomes one of our

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customers

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and they're having issue, they give us a

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call. We are staffed 24/7/365

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to deal with any type of emergency. So,

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even if it's 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning

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and something's happening, they'll be

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able to call us and we'll get somebody

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dispatched out to the residence ASAP.

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pay that $4.07 a month. If they do file

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a claim, there is no service charge,

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there is no deductible.

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uh a complete line replacement,

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residents don't have to worry about any

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out-of-pocket costs. So,

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typically it could be a few hundred

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dollars just to

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fill a line, but

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you know, if it's discovered that, you

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know, there's

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a lead service line that bring up to

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federal guidelines, it's complete

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replacement and

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residents don't have to worry about the

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out-of-pocket.

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that is currently priced at $6.57

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a month. But same as the water,

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no coverage cap.

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no limit to how many claims they can

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file in a year. So, if if they they file

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a claim in January and

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you know, it was a pretty

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um you know, just a tree root or

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something, we can um

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it opens up uh

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as many claims as they need to. So,

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later on the year if later on down the

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line uh is acting up, they can give us a

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call and we'll send somebody out. Uh

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again, there would be no coverage cap,

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no out-of-pocket expense.

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local contractors that will come out,

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look at what's going on, maybe camera

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the the line to see what it is and uh

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you know, fix whatever the issue is.

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jetting line,

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they you know, we can certainly do that,

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but if the line's

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bad shape, yeah, it

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and they recommend that hey, we need to

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do a full or partial replacement,

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they'll call our team, our contractor

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team and my company and you know,

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discuss the different options and what's

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best for the resident.

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little more than 2,500 customers

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in Orem that are signed up for total of

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4,300 policies. Now, we've not mailed

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the city of Orem since 2021, but we

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still have over 2,500

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customers with the as you can see down

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there, the 90% retention rate. Year

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every year residents are keeping the

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coverage

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mainly cuz it's it it's cheap, it's

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reasonable and you know, you just you

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never know with a water and sewer line

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where you're going to have a an issue

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and kind of gives them that that peace

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of mind. So,

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I really like that 90% retention rate.

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75% is pretty reasonable, it is pretty

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good what we see with other

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partnerships, so

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Orem's definitely

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ahead on that.

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And then also, we've completed over

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1,200 claims saving to date

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little more than 1.7 million dollars.

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in a few months, I'll be able to come

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back and

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present 2 million dollars saved as I did

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a couple years ago for the 1 million

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dollar mark. It's always a cool

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milestone to hit.

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out customer satisfaction surveys, make

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sure that they were happy with the

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service they had, did anything pop up

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that you know, they were unsure about

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a current 4.82 out of five. So,

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considering the partnership has been

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around for over 10 years, that's a solid

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number that we're very happy about. And

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you know, if anything

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was to go wrong or if they do put a note

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in there that they were not happy with a

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certain aspect, we do reach out and say,

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"Hey, what happened? What can we do to

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make it right?"

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And this is just a little bit of a

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breakdown between the two different

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coverages.

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pretty much dead even. Um see, there's a

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little bit higher claims for the sewer

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septic line. It's same with the cost,

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which is normal. Uh

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country, sewer often tends to be a

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little bit more expensive than a water

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coverage

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when it comes to the claims. But um

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yeah, it's great to see that

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see almost a million dollars just on

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sewer itself.

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some more recent uh I think from

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the end of 2025, some customer

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satisfaction feedback. What I was

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talking about the the survey that we

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send out. It does give them an option

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for any type of feedback. And

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a lot of times they just, you know, will

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rate us

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you know, four or five stars. But you

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know, these residents did have some nice

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words about the program.

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One thing that I do like to point out

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every time I meet with a partner is we

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have HomeServe Cares. That is our

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foundation where we try to give back to

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the community.

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The main one that I like to call out is

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the Caring for People.

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This will be for any resident in a board

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that is not a current customer.

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And then something happens that really

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puts them in a a tough position.

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Uh and either the city or the residents

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themselves can go on the HomeServe Cares

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website and file to have a claim

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uh taken care of by a local contractor

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at no cost to the homeowner. And again,

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this is for anybody that's not currently

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a customer. So, being that you're a

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partner, this is always open for you.

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different partners from New Mexico to

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Florida that have reached out and

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utilized this. It's here whenever you

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would need it. So,

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just something keep in the back of your

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mind if you know, later on down the road

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catch wind that's somebody that's might

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maybe on a fixed income or something

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like that is having an issue,

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HomeServe Cares is here for that.

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And then just moving forward, um you

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know, there's different ways that we can

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communicate that

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Well, I'd love to get another mailer

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out. There's definitely some different

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content that we can do. I know you have

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a nice

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um

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spot on your website for, you know,

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welcome to Orem for new residents, but

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even, you know, current residents if you

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wanted to get some social content up

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just letting them know that, "Hey, this

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program is available." You can have uh

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links to my company or the call center.

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I have all the digital

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assets that you would need to to upload

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and make it part of um the website if

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you're interested.

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You just let me know and I'm happy to

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work with whoever is in charge of the

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city website to to get that up.

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Uh and then yeah, same thing uh social

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media. I mean, social media is done for

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everything nowadays. So, you know, we

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can always put blasts out on social

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media just let people know that uh hey,

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this program still around or

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save one residents of Orem

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$7 million on this program. For more

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uh

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more information, please go to their

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website or, you know, give us a call at

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uh you know, the 800 number.

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I have

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most of I guide that

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you're more than welcome to utilize.

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And that's really it. I tried to keep it

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short and sweet. Um

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anybody have any questions for me?

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» Yes, ma'am.

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>> I do. And maybe it's not as much for you

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even as it is for Brandon or somebody

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and that is if if

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I mean we got the postcard whenever it

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was and I was like what is what is this

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and how is this and how do you decide I

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guess who you partner with or how does that decision get made if

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residents ask and so

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>> Um back in the day

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when they first approached us Steve

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Downs

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and

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research into the company and

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how

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they were rated and

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these customer ratings type of things

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they tried to determine if

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and other entities that use them so ref

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from a reference standpoint

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and he

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discussed that with those and did some

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research in that regard and that's how

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we then settled

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on them and they've been a good partner

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since then

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so that's really how that has come to be

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really they

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>> I can add to that what what they provide

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us is quite unique

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and we have some that attempt to compete

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and I think that

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someone could go and and

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you know this isn't forced on any

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resident so if someone were to try and

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see if they could get another insurer the

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sewer lines

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the city's line

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what's what's not

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in their house

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what's the line that is being insured

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through the service many cities

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find that they get residents that come

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and

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expect the city to make those repairs

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when it's between [clears throat] the

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house and the city's connection

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and

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um

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I think previous to this partnership

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maybe we tried to find a way to help or direct them to you know good

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contractor or

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you

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provided what help we could but

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typically cities just say

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And isn't the city's responsibility.

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So, this was a way for us to kind of

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proactively find an option and a

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solution for residents.

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And

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you know, it uh

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>> [clears throat]

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>> we've got to keep the distinction and

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make sure our residents know that we are

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distinct and separate, but

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also provide a solution. So, that's kind of the partnership that that

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we try to engage in.

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I don't I don't know of anyone else who

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um partners with cities to in this way.

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>> Absolutely, see I mean, at the end of

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the day, we could

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we're a company, we can market to

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anybody in the United States. The

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approach that we take, we we will not

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market

403
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uh to a city unless we have a

404
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partnership or an agreement with a city

405
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because

406
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there are so many

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uh fraudulent mail

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pieces of mail that people get

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[clears throat] every day, you know, I

410
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get it. And you know, with the

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partnership with the city, it kind of

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just catches the residents' eyes, and at

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the end of the day, it gets

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uh the

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conversation started. Even if they don't

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want the program, the optional coverage,

417
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at least they're aware of it that the

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water service line are their

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responsibilities. Or they might reach

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out to their homeowner and see that,

421
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"Hey, it's my home. I thought this was

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my homeowner's." And

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sometimes I understand it's not covered

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by the homeowners. Um if it is, they

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might be able to, you know, a rider, but

426
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there's still a standard uh

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deductible, service charge, all that stuff that applies whenever you

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file a homeowner's claim. And that's

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kind of where we differ. Just um trying

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to give residents

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option.

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>> I love the educational aspect of this,

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actually. I think there's a lot of value

434
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in that. Is there any interest in doing

435
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another mail? You said 2015 was the last

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one you did?

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>> We've had a partner since 20

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>> 21.

439
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>> 2021.

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>> So, it's been 5 years now.

441
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>> Yeah, absolutely. But and before we

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mail, we always get the city's feedback.

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You're always eligible to to take a look

444
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at it and say, you know, we like this,

445
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we don't like that. There's going to be

446
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certain things that we need to leave in

447
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there for legal purposes,

448
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but our marketing team is very good

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about customizing the letter for you.

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know your residence, you know what

451
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they're going to like, what they're not

452
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going to like. So, before we mail

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anything out, we always get the okay

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from the city.

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» Thank you.

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>> Can you share uh what some of the common

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repairs are?

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I'm just curious as to how often

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>> [clears throat]

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>> one of our residents uh has to replace a

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whole line, water or sewer.

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And

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uh

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what would we expect to see

465
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uh from residents in our town

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those of issues that come up that might

467
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be covered by what you do, and how often

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does that happen?

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>> Yeah, so there was I mean, we did bulk

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uh 1,200 claims, so that's give or take.

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But uh in 10 years, 120 a year.

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Um so,

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we definitely um towards the beginning

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of the the partnership, it's it's it's

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always slow. There's There's more

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enrollments than there are

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um

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claims. And actually, let me look here.

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I think one thing I forgot to explain

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out, in 2015,

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» Speaking of them,

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>> I'm sorry, 2025, we did 102 claims for

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uh over $163,000.

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So, you know, that could be anything. Uh

485
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like as I mentioned, it could just be

486
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tree roots, or it could be a faulty

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line. And even if say it is just a tree

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root, something that typically would

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just be a jet

490
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or clearing out, but it's discovered it

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is like a lead line that needs to be

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replaced, we're not just going to jet

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the line, we have to bring it up to

494
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local, state, federal guidelines. So,

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um you know, we would replace the full

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line in that instance. And it just it

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really depends on um

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each individual kind of

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how the the house is

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Joe. There's a lot of trees.

501
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Obviously, we I'm from western

502
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Pennsylvania, so we have a lot of

503
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uh trees out there same as you do here

504
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and that's tree roots are very big

505
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problem where I'm from.

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>> [snorts]

507
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>> Um whereas I also work in

508
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uh New Mexico where tree roots are not a

509
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huge problem. So, uh it it really just

510
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kind of depends on the individual cities

511
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that we

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work with.

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Uh but you know, 100 claims a year is is

514
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pretty good.

515
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>> Do you have any any guesses as to how

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many of those 102 claims would be

517
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replacements?

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>> Not off the top of my head. I I just The

519
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report that I I typically receive on a

520
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monthly basis just has the breakdown on

521
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the different uh

522
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types of coverages, but if you'd like I when I get back um later this week, I

523
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can

524
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do a little bit more digging and I can

525
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provide you more information if

526
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>> That's great. I'll send you an email.

527
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Thank you.

528
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>> Absolutely.

529
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>> I have a question. So, is there a life expectancy of a

530
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In other words,

531
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um we have a lot of old water lines in

532
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our

533
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and some are on borrowed time maybe as

534
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far as that

535
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those pipes go from the city connection

536
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to their home.

537
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Is there like a time where you should

538
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really be thinking about

539
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and then this home for 20 years or 25

540
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years or 35 years, is there any kind of

541
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data or research that shows

542
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this is when you're going to have a

543
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problem after age so many years?

544
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>> Yeah, so it depends on the type of line

545
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that was utilized. Um a lot of times

546
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when there's like a galvanized or like

547
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orange burg or

548
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I don't

549
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know what all the the old water lines

550
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were made out of for some of the the old

551
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infrastructure, but

552
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really anything over probably 20 or 30

553
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years

554
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going to

555
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maybe they they want to look into this

556
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coverage. If if you have a new housing

557
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plan that's built in the last 5 years,

558
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you know, they're good.

559
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,880
That's not really what this is this

560
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,760
program's for. It's those older houses

561
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,680
that

562
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,680
uh

563
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,640
or

564
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,840
built in the early 1900s that who might

565
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,600
have had three or four different owners

566
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,320
knows if there's ever been an issue or a

567
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,080
line replacement because, you know,

568
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,520
everything's underground and you don't

569
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,200
know until there's an issue that, you

570
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,760
know, oh, this is what my pipe's made

571
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,360
of. So, um But, yeah, I would say

572
00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:47,760
20 to probably closer to 30 years would

573
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,600
be um

574
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,960
a life expectancy.

575
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,520
>> Jeff, what I I found my in my

576
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,760
neighborhood the homes are between 40

577
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,520
and 50 years old. And this is sad

578
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,240
because it it does affect my neighbors,

579
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,720
but I begin to see when other neighbors

580
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,080
>> start seeing the trench in their front

581
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,680
>> start seeing this you start seeing that

582
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,840
happening. That it's not just a one-off.

583
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,080
And and so, you kind of because you're in a subdivision uh probably

584
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,680
built with the same materials about the

585
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,240
same time. So, if you do have neighbors

586
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,840
who've who've experienced that, that's

587
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,600
probably a sign that you need to start looking.

588
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,920
>> Three in our neighborhood at the 35-40

589
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:25,560
year mark.

590
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,280
>> Yeah.

591
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,360
>> That's what you know, with my water

592
00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:27,760
line.

593
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,080
>> I would bet you most of their customers

594
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,240
come from seeing a neighbor who has

595
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,160
something happen and they go, oh, I'm

596
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,600
right here.

597
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,440
Maybe better go do that.

598
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,160
Yeah, I think if they know about it,

599
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,040
right?

600
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,040
>> And I would say, you know, for a

601
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,160
partnership of 10 plus years like Orem,

602
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,680
word of mouth is our best marketing. And

603
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,880
that's why we take customer service

604
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,480
really seriously, not just because, you

605
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,040
know, they're your residents and we want

606
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,960
to make sure that we're shining a good

607
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,200
light on Orem, but

608
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:55,640
>> Yes.

609
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,520
>> One of our customers could have an issue

610
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,360
and they say, "Oh, yeah, they came out,

611
00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:01,040
fixed everything. It was super easy."

612
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,320
They tell their neighbor who tells their

613
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,800
neighbor. And the mailers that go out

614
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,840
are

615
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,760
great for putting new residents and old residents that

616
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,040
haven't got it in a in a while, but

617
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,080
word of mouth is is really the best

618
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,320
marketing tool that we can have.

619
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,920
>> If I can emphasize with that, and and

620
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,880
again, part of the uniqueness of this

621
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,240
service,

622
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,800
if we were getting a lot of complaints

623
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,880
from our residents saying

624
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,200
they're trying to get out of message or

625
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,520
wasn't easy to work with or didn't bring

626
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,920
um wasn't able to some contractor that

627
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,080
was going to do quality work and and

628
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,400
bring it up to standards uh current

629
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,000
standards, then

630
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,000
we wouldn't we wouldn't be continuing

631
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:48,520
with this partnership. So, unless you've heard of any complaints

632
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,000
from residents that I have a um

633
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,160
that's really been a big big part of why

634
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:54,800
um

635
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,220
wanted to continue this.

636
00:21:57,220 --> 00:21:57,280
>> [snorts]

637
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,680
>> So, how would someone how do people

638
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,200
contact you? How does that how does that

639
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,200
happen if someone's interested?

640
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,200
>> They sign up.

641
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,440
>> To sign up for your service.

642
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,760
>> So, if we want to get another mailer

643
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:15,200
out, uh there are um a self-addressed paper envelope that

644
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,520
residents can fill out. Marketing still

645
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,520
our

646
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,520
um

647
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,240
enrollment numbers that we we see that

648
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,680
roll in are are still through the direct

649
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,720
mail,

650
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,080
uh but you know, residents can go on on

651
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,920
our website today or give us a call.

652
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,440
center's located in Chattanooga,

653
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,760
Tennessee.

654
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,800
I am they can sign up on the website or through the

655
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,200
call center today if

656
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,400
>> What's your web address?

657
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,830
>> It's S L

658
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,560
We have We have links on our website.

659
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,360
>> we have links on the website? Okay.

660
00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:49,480
>> center, too.

661
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,600
Our staff immediately directs them to

662
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,520
call center.

663
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,880
>> Do you know where those links are?

664
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,000
>> I was just going to say I was going to

665
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,520
go they were there once upon a time, so

666
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,280
I'd probably going to have to I I

667
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,240
check with 311 to make sure that they

668
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,000
still have the contact information and

669
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,800
then yeah, that it's still out there on

670
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,960
our utility billing.

671
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,880
>> It'd be nice to have a specific page to

672
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,360
send people to if they have

673
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,360
>> Yes, orm.gov/serviceline.

674
00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:18,040
>> serviceline

675
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,320
>> Say it again.

676
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,120
>> It's p

677
00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:22,640
>> You know, I like I like Orem Brandon too

678
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,600
get you know, some updated materials on there as well, but

679
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,840
yes, so they can

680
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,360
>> They go on the city website and they see

681
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:30,040
that they

682
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,600
>> Click the link, go right to our website

683
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,720
or again

684
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,200
Call our call center.

685
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,240
>> Thank you.

686
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,760
>> Your attention. So, it's not on our

687
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,480
welcome page.

688
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,240
We have

689
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,470
>> orm.gov/serviceline

690
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,600
» Is it orm?

691
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,880
Putting it on that welcome page.

692
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,080
>> We'll put it on our

693
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,480
You know, just like with anything we

694
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,000
shine light on occasion certain

695
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,720
services. So, I think we wanted to

696
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,320
Make sure that you were all you know,

697
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:05,280
feeling good about this partnership and we Happy to re-emphasize highlight

698
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,800
>> I definitely feel good about this

699
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,221
partnership.

700
00:24:08,221 --> 00:24:09,280
>> [laughter]

701
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,040
>> And there's no cost for the city to do

702
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,600
anything. We can curl the market

703
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,630
cost and everything like that.

704
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,840
» Are there any more questions?

705
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,320
>> Thank you. That was informative. Very

706
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,320
informative.

707
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,040
>> Yeah, I appreciate you let me join and

708
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,240
I look forward to We are also partnered

709
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,480
with Orem Fest. So, hopefully I'll be

710
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,640
able to come out in It's June, correct?

711
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800
Again, I a couple years ago worked car

712
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,400
show and that was a lot of fun.

713
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,440
>> So, where did you come Where do you come

714
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,000
from?

715
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,920
>> I'm from Pittsburgh.

716
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,560
>> Pittsburgh, okay.

717
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,680
>> So, yes, heading back home tomorrow and

718
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,640
I would love I mean, this is absolutely

719
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,320
gorgeous. So, I wouldn't mind a second

720
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,840
home out here. I'm very jealous of you

721
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,040
all.

722
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,360
We have the Steelers, Pirates, and

723
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,870
Penguins to south.

724
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,110
» You paying for their flights?

725
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:04,480
» Well, safe travels. Thank you for

726
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,000
coming.

727
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,910
>> Thanks for having me.

728
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,720
» All right.

729
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,520
Thank you. The next item on

730
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,840
the agenda is a presentation by the

731
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,560
Mountainland Association of Governments,

732
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,800
MAG.

733
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,720
Now, is this

734
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,680
Is it we're going to be talking about

735
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,000
the transportation?

736
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,400
>> Yes.

737
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,520
>> Okay. Let me give you a little

738
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,800
background as they're getting set up.

739
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,440
One of my uh

740
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,400
responsibilities as mayor is I serve

741
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,240
on represent Orem on what the MPO which

742
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,080
is Metropolitan Planning

743
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,920
Organization. I think I got that right.

744
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,280
Did I?

745
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:40,920
>> Correct.

746
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,600
>> Ooh, good.

747
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:42,960
Um

748
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,840
>> Here's your gold star.

749
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,600
>> And we talk all things transportation

750
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,520
in Utah County. And everything from

751
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,720
talking about the federal monies that we

752
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,440
may receive, waiting projects that will

753
00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:01,880
be coming and on the beyond plans, and so last the last meeting I was at, I

754
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,200
asked if they could come

755
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,200
and present to you because I thought the

756
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,960
information was so valuable as we make

757
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,440
decisions uh in in planning and in and

758
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,640
in governing the city that I I wanted to

759
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,400
have you have at least

760
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,800
know what information's available to us

761
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,520
as as we go forward on that. So,

762
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,440
turn the time over to you two.

763
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,360
>> Well, thank you, Mayor McCandless, and

764
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,720
uh it's nice to see some familiar faces.

765
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,280
I've worked with a lot of you over the

766
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,120
time, and I work a lot to have I'm glad

767
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:36,960
to be here and present. My name's Bob

768
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,920
Allen. I'm the programming manager at

769
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,040
MAG, and I'm with Felt here as the

770
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,080
transportation manager um for us as

771
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,920
well. Um Lanice Davenport,

772
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,680
unfortunately, she wanted to be here but

773
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,320
couldn't be. She actually serves on the

774
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,480
planning commission for her community,

775
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,560
and they had a meeting tonight, so she

776
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800
couldn't make it. Um

777
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,440
we're here to talk about what you want

778
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,320
to talk about. We have a very high-level

779
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,280
presentation about what MAG is and what

780
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,240
we do, but please don't hesitate to stop

781
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,480
and say, "Bob, we really want to talk

782
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,200
about this or we really have questions

783
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,200
about that." And we're happy to have

784
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,200
those conversations with you. Um just

785
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,520
very high-level, MAG is one of Utah's

786
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,560
seven Association of Governments. We're

787
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,760
a regional organization that brings

788
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,560
local communities [clears throat]

789
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,480
together to think regionally and and

790
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,000
work together to plan for the future. Um

791
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,360
we advocate for local priorities, but

792
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,240
also help communities to think

793
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,960
regionally. Um we have three main focus

794
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,960
areas. We have our aging services. Many

795
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,240
of you've probably seen our Meals on

796
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,480
Wheels trucks running around. Um so,

797
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,080
there's a lot of aging services that we

798
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,960
do. We also do community and economic

799
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960
development work. And uh of course,

800
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,000
Kevin and I and what the mayor was

801
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,760
talking about is we're we're certainly

802
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,560
heavily invested in planning for the

803
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,000
future for growth. We cover Summit,

804
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,520
Utah, and Wasatch counties.

805
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,560
Um

806
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,240
our MPO, the as the mayor mentioned,

807
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,880
actually only just covers Utah County or the urban area of Utah County. And we

808
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,320
do run an RPO, which is kind of what an

809
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,760
it's an MPO light, which uh is in

810
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,200
Wasatch and Summit counties. We call the

811
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Wasatch Back RPO.

812
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,320
Um we again we administer community and

813
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,880
economic development planning programs.

814
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,600
We support regional transportation and

815
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,840
land use visioning uh through the

816
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,240
Wasatch Choice Vision and we certainly

817
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,520
provide a forum for regional discussion

818
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,040
and collaboration.

819
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,200
Um

820
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,920
a lot a lot of times it's easy for

821
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,080
communities to start thinking about just

822
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,760
my community and not worry too much

823
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,200
about what's happening on the borders.

824
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,360
And and we are an organization that

825
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,920
tries to help bring those together. Um

826
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,480
An MPO is a federally designated group.

827
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,640
Anytime an urban population gets above

828
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,960
50,000 uh in population, they're

829
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,400
required to have an MPO.

830
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,320
Um and so that's what we're here to do

831
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,480
is help create um

832
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,160
a plan for our transportation future.

833
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,120
We'll talk about two of the

834
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,520
big products that we uh

835
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,240
create in just a moment. Um we're broken

836
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,720
up into three divisions. We have our

837
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,680
transportation division that uh Kevin

838
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,440
and I both work in focusing on again

839
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,360
transportation planning. We have our

840
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,320
analytics division

841
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,840
um that is, as you would guess, data

842
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,400
analytics, GIS mapping. Um our

843
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,400
transporta- our travel demand models,

844
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,960
our real estate models, etc. And then

845
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,560
community planning division that um

846
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,920
provides community planning assistance

847
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,440
uh to communities, uh station area

848
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,000
planning. There's a local uh

849
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,200
administrative advisor that they do. And

850
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,240
again, we also do economic development

851
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,120
as part of this well.

852
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,200
Um I'm not going to go through all of

853
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,080
these, but these are just some of the

854
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,480
programs that we do.

855
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,000
Um

856
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,560
Many of you maybe have heard of the

857
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,680
Unified Planning Work I'm sorry, the

858
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,240
Utah's Unified Transportation Plan,

859
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,360
Community Development Block Grants.

860
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,800
Um the Regional Transportation Plan, the

861
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,880
TIP. Technical Assistance, you know, we

862
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,680
do many different things, corridor

863
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,640
preservation program.

864
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,200
Many of you notice when you register

865
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,800
your car, there's a $10 fee that goes

866
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,920
directly to purchasing right away or

867
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,520
corridors for future roads. We

868
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,440
administer that. We have a lot of

869
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,200
different things that we do, and we're

870
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,680
happy to talk through any of the any or

871
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,560
all of these as you have time.

872
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,916
Um

873
00:30:39,916 --> 00:30:40,080
>> [clears throat]

874
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,600
>> As I mentioned, we're a U- Utah County's

875
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,760
federally designated MPO. Um the two

876
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,360
primary products that most people are

877
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,280
aware of that we create are the regional

878
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,080
transportation plan, or you probably

879
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,360
heard RTP, and the transportation

880
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,840
improvement program, the TIP. It's a

881
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,200
very important difference between the

882
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,440
two. An RTP is a good example of what an

883
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920
RTP would be is like your general plan.

884
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200
It's you looking out in the future 10,

885
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,480
15, 20, 30 years and saying, "This is

886
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,320
what we want to be in the future, and

887
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,120
these are policies and steps that we

888
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,840
want to take to meet that future goals,

889
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,160
objectives, etc., etc." The

890
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,000
transportation improvement program is

891
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,320
where actual funding

892
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,360
comes into play. This is like a capital

893
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,800
facilities plan that you have that's 5

894
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,400
years out that you say, "In 2027, we

895
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,840
have a million dollars and we're going

896
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,160
to build this with it." That's what the

897
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,360
TIP is. So, the RTP is that long-range

898
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,600
plan, and the TIP is kind of how we

899
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,040
implement the RTP, and we'll talk more

900
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,560
specifically about both of those. Um

901
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,760
we're governed by our locally elected

902
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680
officials. As Mayor McCandless said, she

903
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,600
serves on our board. Uh that it that

904
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,840
board includes all the elected officials

905
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,680
or or mayors and the county commission,

906
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,480
as [clears throat] well as partners with

907
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,720
UDOT, UTA, Division of Air Quality,

908
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,520
Federal Highways.

909
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,200
Um we also have uh Camp Williams as an

910
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,000
ex officio member.

911
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,960
Um it's staffed by again professional

912
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,360
planners, data analysts, and

913
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,520
transportation experts, such as

914
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,720
ourselves. Um and why it matters is

915
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,960
transportation projects must be in the

916
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,280
RTP to receive federal and state

917
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,880
funding. So,

918
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,240
you know, cities do a great job of

919
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,200
dealing with local roads and and they're

920
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,920
built through development, maintained,

921
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,160
etc.

922
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,760
We're talking about regionally

923
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,520
significant roads, the the big stuff.

924
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,760
Uh let me go ahead. Uh regional

925
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,400
transportation plan, Kevin, you want to

926
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,320
talk a little bit about that?

927
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,960
>> Um

928
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,160
really the the purpose of it is

929
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,400
again, Bob mentioned we're federally

930
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,440
required to have a metropolitan planning

931
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,120
organization

932
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,040
for any area over 50,000 people and

933
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,640
obviously this

934
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,040
Utah Valley, Utah County is is over

935
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,640
50,000. So, we have the MPO

936
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,640
and our charge is to really long-term

937
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,520
plan for

938
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,160
the

939
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,120
all modes of transportation, roads,

940
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,440
transit, active transportation, all of

941
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,480
those things. And hopefully some of the

942
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,200
things we do

943
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:15,880
um

944
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,280
positively impact your city

945
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,280
as well as help you understand what that

946
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,040
future um

947
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,080
network of transportation opportunities

948
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,160
are so that you can better plan your

949
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,680
land uses and those types of things.

950
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,280
We really try to provide um planning

951
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,680
work for safe and efficient

952
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,600
modes of transportation

953
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,640
which improves the mobility, safe

954
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,320
movement of goods and people, and also

955
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,640
for your growth as I mentioned.

956
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,960
Um

957
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,600
So, we we we do this regionally. So,

958
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,080
what we're looking at is urbanized area

959
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,320
of Utah County which is all the cities

960
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,000
all the way from

961
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,160
what, Geneva up to Santaquin all the way

962
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,400
up to Lehi and over to um

963
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,200
Fairview and the the whole urbanized

964
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,880
area of the county.

965
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,840
Um

966
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,000
so, we we do that by looking at it

967
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,080
on our end quantitative perspective.

968
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,399
Yeah. Is the project needed based on

969
00:34:15,399 --> 00:34:17,840
conditions and those types of things?

970
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,240
And then many of the the subjective or

971
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:25,000
the qualitative um aspects of that plan

972
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,320
come from the board and and the folks

973
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,639
that that they really have the

974
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:31,159
um

975
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,399
they have the purview of looking over it

976
00:34:33,399 --> 00:34:34,679
and making sure we've done our job

977
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,760
basically is what we think.

978
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,760
Um

979
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,679
and what we try to do is align that with

980
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,040
the needs of of the region.

981
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,919
Also because our region actually owns

982
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:46,520
others, particularly Wasatch Front

983
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,200
Regional Council, which serves as the

984
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,440
Metropolitan Planning Organization in

985
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,760
Salt Lake County.

986
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,120
We have to coordinate with them to make

987
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,320
sure that there's a lot of folks here in

988
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,640
the county that that work up there or

989
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,400
vice versa. They live up in Salt Lake

990
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,240
County and work down here. So you have

991
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:03,800
to make sure that we coordinate with all

992
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,480
of that as well.

993
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,800
We update this every four years.

994
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,040
Um right now we're in a cycle to update

995
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,160
it. Um

996
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,880
it'll be adopted, hopefully adopted, um

997
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,640
next June.

998
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,840
And that'll last until um the horizon

999
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,480
year is 2055. And then we'll do another

1000
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,600
plan. Hopefully it'll be adopted in the

1001
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,560
2031.

1002
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,240
Which may have the same

1003
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,680
horizon year, but it may also go to

1004
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,200
2060.

1005
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,560
>> Going to fight that, yeah.

1006
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,800
>> What I do want also mention is

1007
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,520
what is the Regional Transportation

1008
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Council. Again, it's a unifying

1009
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,640
transportation blueprint

1010
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,520
for all of Utah County.

1011
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,480
Um the plans it the plan actually helps

1012
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,880
you in your growth.

1013
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,560
Um it improves the regional mobility for

1014
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,200
all the modes. Again,

1015
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,040
highways, transit,

1016
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,920
uh active transportation.

1017
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,040
We also What we do is when we start

1018
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,000
building [clears throat] the plan and

1019
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,000
then the the a lot of projects in it,

1020
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,480
look at all of the local government um

1021
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,400
plans as well. Try to get all those

1022
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,120
projects in.

1023
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,360
What I will mention is that all of the

1024
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,320
projects end up in the plan at the end

1025
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,280
at adoption

1026
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,680
have to be what we call um fiscally

1027
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,400
constrained. And that's kind of a a

1028
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,720
misnomer in a sense. But what we do is

1029
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,320
we also look out and see

1030
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,400
not only what are our transportation

1031
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,480
needs for those years, we also look out

1032
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,760
and see what financial

1033
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,760
revenues that we might be

1034
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
obtaining in that time period. So our

1035
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,640
plan has to be

1036
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,240
something we can afford is what it

1037
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,160
really comes down to.

1038
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,200
What it is not is not a a mechanism to

1039
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,065
allocate specific dollars.

1040
00:36:46,065 --> 00:36:46,800
>> [clears throat]

1041
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,040
>> That's what Bob's going to talk about in

1042
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,280
a minute with the transportation

1043
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,880
improvement program.

1044
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,920
What we're doing in a nutshell is we are

1045
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,720
if if you wanted to purchase

1046
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,360
a new home

1047
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,440
and you've got four or five different

1048
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,800
revenue sources that you have. You have

1049
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,600
um

1050
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,840
your income from your your job, you have

1051
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,520
income from interest, you have income

1052
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,320
from you know stocks and bonds or

1053
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,640
whatever other things you may have.

1054
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,080
But you're not assigning any specific

1055
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,960
dollars from those pots of money that

1056
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,400
you have.

1057
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,360
That's what the RTP is. We're just a big

1058
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,640
pot of money

1059
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,200
and a bunch of projects that add up to

1060
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,080
the same amount. That's kind of what we do.

1061
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,520
We don't do land use policy. We do look

1062
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,320
at land use from the perspective of

1063
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,760
population and employment.

1064
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,000
But we do not do land use policy. That

1065
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,200
is the purview of the local governments

1066
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,320
and we stay out of that that that stuff.

1067
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,320
Um it's also not intended for local

1068
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,080
streets. All the local dollars that you

1069
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,640
have go to those local streets. That is

1070
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,680
not part of our plan. So if you wanted

1071
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,876
to widen

1072
00:37:52,876 --> 00:37:52,960
>> [clears throat]

1073
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,800
>> uh

1074
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,720
600 North it's not a a regionally

1075
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,120
significant roadway, so that would be

1076
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,736
the dollars that you would spend on it.

1077
00:38:00,736 --> 00:38:01,280
>> [clears throat]

1078
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,480
>> That being

1079
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,720
involved in that at all. And I think the

1080
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,440
big thing is this this blue bar at the

1081
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,120
bottom and Bob's already talked about it

1082
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,880
in a sense.

1083
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,760
If a project is receiving federal or

1084
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,560
state funding

1085
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,640
it has to be in the regional

1086
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,950
transportation plan.

1087
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,360
Then I'll turn back over to Bob and talk

1088
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,080
about the transportation improvement

1089
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,120
>> So transportation improvement program

1090
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,960
and the tip again very high level. This

1091
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,240
is where

1092
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:27,720
the money hits the road, you know, the

1093
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:28,880
rubber hits the road. This is where

1094
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,480
money hits the road.

1095
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,200
Um

1096
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,560
it's again another federally required

1097
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,920
plan.

1098
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:35,720
Uh

1099
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:37,960
but instead of looking out through 2055,

1100
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,800
we're only looking out through 2030,

1101
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,440
2031 and identifying the projects that

1102
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,480
will be built, what kind of money will

1103
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,000
be going to them,

1104
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,680
what year that money will be available,

1105
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,720
and and

1106
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,120
getting that project up and going. Um it

1107
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,800
covers again all transportation modes,

1108
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,800
and we have to maintain fiscal

1109
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,840
constraint as well.

1110
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,360
It It includes all in regionally

1111
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,040
significant projects, whether they're

1112
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,960
funded through MAG, through UDot,

1113
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,720
through UTA,

1114
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:11,320
and you can see kind of on the chart on

1115
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,480
the right here.

1116
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,960
Our TIP is comprised of those MPO funded

1117
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,240
projects, UDot funded projects, UTA

1118
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:19,720
funded projects. They all get compiled

1119
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:22,320
together into our TIP. Our TIP is

1120
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,600
compiled with all the other MPOs TIPs as

1121
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,000
well as UDot rural projects, and that

1122
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,120
rolls into the STIP, the Statewide

1123
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,880
Transportation Improvement Program.

1124
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,640
This plan we update every year

1125
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:43,360
um as per requirements, but MAG for our process of assigning funds to

1126
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,680
projects, that only happens every 2

1127
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,040
years.

1128
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,960
So, at a glance, I'll go through this

1129
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,440
slide, then we'll maybe stop and see if

1130
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,052
there's any questions. So,

1131
00:39:54,052 --> 00:39:54,520
>> [clears throat]

1132
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,880
>> question we often get is how does an

1133
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,520
idea or a project actually become a

1134
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,560
reality? Well, it starts with

1135
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,480
identifying a need, and often times

1136
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,880
that's a community's helping us identify

1137
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,960
that, whether that's through congestion

1138
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,240
that's existing or growth issues, maybe

1139
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,240
there's a safety concern,

1140
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,080
maybe there's new transportation modes.

1141
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,840
Can't tell you how how times people are

1142
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,600
starting to talk about air mobility and

1143
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,200
all these kinds of things and asking

1144
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,480
about it. Maybe there's a regional trail

1145
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,840
or there's a gap somewhere that we need

1146
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,440
to fix. Any number of ways that say,

1147
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,200
"Hey, this is a regionally significant

1148
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,160
pro- project. We have a need. Let's

1149
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,240
start talking about it." Then it goes

1150
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:37,680
into the RTP that Kevin talked about. It

1151
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,320
goes through that process where we start

1152
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,240
looking at the project and say, "Does it

1153
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:45,200
meet local needs?" Um it gets phased and

1154
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,800
prioritized based on the goals and

1155
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,440
policies that our board gives us.

1156
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,480
Uh we can run through a data-driven

1157
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,840
process to identify

1158
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,560
uh what is most important of it.

1159
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,160
Sometimes we

1160
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,800
uh do specific corridor plans to

1161
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,200
identify are we making the right

1162
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,360
decision or building the right project

1163
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,760
for the to fix the problem. And of

1164
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,160
course, we need to make sure that it

1165
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,400
meets air quality standards. They're

1166
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,840
strict air quality standards that we

1167
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,880
have to cover as part of that. So then

1168
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,920
that project hopefully gets listed in

1169
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,120
the RTP and says, "Okay, it's a a phase

1170
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,720
one need. We need it in the next 10

1171
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:22,920
years."

1172
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,880
Then it goes to the prioritization or

1173
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,080
programming process.

1174
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,080
And really, that's where things kind of

1175
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,080
split ways a little bit. There's the

1176
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,960
UDoT or state

1177
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,240
prioritization process.

1178
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:37,560
They, you know, it depends on the year.

1179
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,800
Anywhere between a little bit less than

1180
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,360
a billion. Some years they don't do much

1181
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,880
of anything depending on those state

1182
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,920
budget. And then there's other years

1183
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,560
where there's multiple billions of

1184
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,320
dollars of

1185
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,880
>> These are annual. The billion and the

1186
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,720
110 million are annually.

1187
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:53,240
>> So the top one is annually.

1188
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:54,800
>> And the 100 million is every two years.

1189
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,520
>> Correct. And that is These are the big

1190
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,920
projects. We're building a freeway.

1191
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,480
We're putting in a new interchange.

1192
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,920
We're

1193
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,400
um building major arterial kind of

1194
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,400
roads.

1195
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,960
That's That's where most of those

1196
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,240
projects come from cuz simply, you can

1197
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:13,840
see MAG's pot of money is only a $110

1198
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,200
million every 2 years.

1199
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,400
You know, you guys probably know this.

1200
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,840
Stuff's expensive, you know, an

1201
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,680
interchange these days can be anywhere

1202
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,600
from 60 to hundreds of millions of

1203
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,920
dollars. Um

1204
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,080
but UDOT's their's process is annually,

1205
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,640
so they have a prioritization process

1206
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,920
annually, and the transportation

1207
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,800
commission is the people that make the

1208
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,760
final decision of what should be funded

1209
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,080
and what shouldn't.

1210
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,480
For MAG's process, we do it biannually,

1211
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,360
and we only have $110 million.

1212
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,680
These are some more of the kind of what

1213
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,440
I would call

1214
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,720
kind of missing middle projects. Cities

1215
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,600
do a great job with local roads.

1216
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,320
And uh but it's hard for communities

1217
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,840
to fund those non-UDOT facilities in the

1218
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,120
middle.

1219
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,720
>> Could you maybe give an example or two

1220
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:05,280
um

1221
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,960
from the last handful of years of of

1222
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,240
what regional projects MAG has

1223
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:11,840
programmed in Orem?

1224
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,480
>> Sure. So, Lakeview Parkway is a great

1225
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,120
example.

1226
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,120
Um

1227
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,640
uh the new roundabout down on 12th and

1228
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,960
4th,

1229
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,400
the proposed roundabout that turned into

1230
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,640
not a roundabout up on 16th and 4th,

1231
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,000
um

1232
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,040
there is a widening of Center Street

1233
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,240
between [clears throat]

1234
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:36,120
the freeway and Geneva Road. That's an

1235
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,400
upcoming project. Those are kind of

1236
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,960
those missing middle. There may not be a

1237
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,600
UDOT facility, and it's pretty expensive

1238
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,080
for a city to come up and build that,

1239
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,200
but it's not on UDOT's I won't say it's

1240
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,920
not on their radar. It's just not their

1241
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,800
facility. They don't tend to spend money

1242
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,800
on somebody else's facilities.

1243
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,600
So, it's those kinds of that scale of

1244
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,360
project. And one of the reasons we don't

1245
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,240
only do it every 2 years is because

1246
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,280
really we only generate about $55 to $60

1247
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,080
million dollars revenue every year.

1248
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,520
And we've got a lot of mouths to feed so

1249
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,160
to speak, a lot of demands. And so, when

1250
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,400
somebody comes in and says, "So, Center

1251
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,560
Street

1252
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,640
the widening of Center Street I think

1253
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,320
that was 11, 12 million dollars is what

1254
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,160
we're awarded for that.

1255
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,640
It's really hard to give 11 million

1256
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,200
dollars when the pot is only 50 million.

1257
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,440
When there's so many other people that

1258
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,920
have 10 million dollar projects, but

1259
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,280
when it's 110, okay, it's a little

1260
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,240
easier to say, "Okay, yeah, let's give

1261
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:39,720
Orem that." Or let's give Lehi or

1262
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:41,200
Santaquin or wherever that. So, that's

1263
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,760
why we do that. And the MPO board is the

1264
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,840
funding agency.

1265
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Here's, we're right in the middle of a

1266
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,600
process right now. Your staff has

1267
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,720
submitted a couple of ideas to us and

1268
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,920
we're working through that process to um

1269
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,160
find some projects to potentially fund

1270
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,920
in Orem. It's a pretty competitive

1271
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,800
process for sure.

1272
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,920
Um because there's lots of needs and not

1273
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,560
a lot of money, but

1274
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,040
great question. Any other questions

1275
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,280
about like programming, how a project

1276
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,440
becomes a thing?

1277
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,880
>> I just want to mention to the council

1278
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,680
that it's important when

1279
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,520
that what This is one reason why our

1280
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,000
master transportation plan is so

1281
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,800
important because

1282
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,200
it is my understanding is if it can it

1283
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,400
has to be on our master transportation

1284
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,920
plan to be part of the RTP.

1285
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,000
So, I can't just come in and say, "Oh,

1286
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,120
you know what? As a resident or from the

1287
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,960
city and say, there's this gap in this

1288
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,840
trail." It has that gap has to be on the

1289
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,080
master transportation plan as being

1290
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,160
something we want to do before it can

1291
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,040
even get this far. Is that right?

1292
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,720
>> That's correct. Your plans are the

1293
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:46,120
building block of our building blocks of

1294
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,960
our plan. And it's it's there's got to

1295
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,720
be a pretty significant issue for us to

1296
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:53,720
come in and say, "Hey, Orem City, you

1297
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:55,080
really need to put this in your plan

1298
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,400
because we got to put it in our plan to

1299
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,240
fit regional needs." Or whatever the

1300
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:01,920
case may be. Great point. And if you're

1301
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,480
going to apply for at least MAG funding,

1302
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,240
it is a requirement and has to be in

1303
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:08,880
your plan and and we make sure the mayor

1304
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,880
says, "Yes, I know what my people are

1305
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,960
asking for and I'm okay with it." You

1306
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,040
you'd be surprised where some people

1307
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,520
say, "Wait, what are my guys asking

1308
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,880
for?" And I'm

1309
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,760
>> Well, I had to sign something with the I

1310
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,680
letters that the two I think there were

1311
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,160
>> Three of them.

1312
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,440
>> Okay, three applications saying this is

1313
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,000
what we're thinking about and just say

1314
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,600
that like maybe nothing that it would

1315
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,280
happen what years and years and years

1316
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,040
down the road.

1317
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:33,640
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1318
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,800
>> So, Orem staff communicates really well

1319
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,160
with their elected officials.

1320
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,800
>> Well, we we force them to at least in

1321
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,122
this stage.

1322
00:46:42,122 --> 00:46:43,200
>> [laughter]

1323
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,920
>> I saw a hand, please.

1324
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,480
How would I know if I'm on a regionally

1325
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,320
significant road qualify for?

1326
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,560
>> That's a really good question. Um

1327
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,400
If you uh

1328
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,840
We So, the technical way that we would

1329
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,480
signify that is is a major collector or

1330
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,280
higher. If you know what the difference

1331
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,240
between a local, a collector versus an

1332
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:04,392
arterial road, the hierarchy

1333
00:47:04,392 --> 00:47:05,040
[clears throat]

1334
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,120
of roads,

1335
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,760
that's typically what we do and UDOT has

1336
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,280
a map that's called the functional

1337
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,400
classified map and basically every road

1338
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,080
that is not a local street has been

1339
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,880
designated [clears throat] by MAG, UDOT,

1340
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,720
and Federal Highway Administration to

1341
00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:24,200
say, "This is a collector road. This is

1342
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,360
a arterial."

1343
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,680
Typically, but

1344
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,920
for the layperson driving down the road,

1345
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,560
if it's got signal traffic signals on it

1346
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,880
and it's got three lanes and it gets you

1347
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,400
from one side of your community to

1348
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,360
another or connects you into the next

1349
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,840
community, those are going to be

1350
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,320
the lower level of regionally

1351
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,520
significant roads. Obviously, I-15,

1352
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,440
State Street, um 8th North, um the

1353
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,040
Parkway, all of those are obvious

1354
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,280
um

1355
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,160
regionally significant roads, Geneva

1356
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,720
Road, Center Street. Go on and off, but

1357
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:03,920
that's generally how you would know

1358
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,800
that. We have a classification system

1359
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,400
that we could certainly share that link

1360
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,240
with you, and you could

1361
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:11,880
put yourself to sleep trying to decide

1362
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,360
what is what, but yeah, we we certainly

1363
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,200
can help you understand that.

1364
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,600
Did I answer your question?

1365
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,480
I saw another hand.

1366
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,373
>> Yeah, so what um

1367
00:48:20,373 --> 00:48:21,320
>> [clears throat]

1368
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:26,680
>> What how much opportunity do you have to

1369
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,360
um

1370
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,600
to get So, to your point, you know,

1371
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,480
resident says

1372
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,080
problem here, yada yada. They come to

1373
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,480
us, we come to you. So, and I'm just

1374
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,920
going to give an example cuz we have

1375
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,000
this Linden Temple open house in Orem.

1376
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,840
I've received several calls and emails

1377
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,000
to us about traffic on 400 West in Orem

1378
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,120
traveling to 2000. How are you guys

1379
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,200
going to you know, and then that brings

1380
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,200
up the whole discussion, why is Linden

1381
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,640
and Pleasant Grove coming to our city?

1382
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,360
So, that and I know you're working on

1383
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,800
the Linden

1384
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,120
the additional little off there between

1385
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,920
that PG. So, at what point how how do we

1386
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,760
facilitate those conversations that

1387
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,160
says, "Hey, we would love to see you

1388
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,880
before things get super bad, plan ahead,

1389
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,480
and figure out a way cuz there's more

1390
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,840
growth going to be happening in those

1391
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,000
cities?

1392
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,080
Or or is it just when things get super

1393
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,080
bad? What what has been your experience?

1394
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,160
>> That is a great question, and the answer

1395
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,219
is yes.

1396
00:49:25,219 --> 00:49:25,880
>> [laughter]

1397
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,960
>> And well, and and I'll answer that by

1398
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,080
saying

1399
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,440
the ideal is certainly

1400
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,320
helping us understand, and I could go to

1401
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,680
a slide

1402
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,840
uh

1403
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,720
what we need from you is but really

1404
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:43,400
early identification of some of these

1405
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,000
needs. Helping us understand what's

1406
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,760
happening in your city, what's your plan

1407
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,320
for the future,

1408
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,200
and helping us understand how that could

1409
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,120
change the transportation system

1410
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,000
um in your community because

1411
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,760
unfortunately

1412
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,160
one of the hard parts about

1413
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,560
transportation planning is it's a very

1414
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,800
much a long game, right? When we're

1415
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,200
talking about those projects that are in

1416
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,480
the tip

1417
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,960
those [clears throat] projects, we've

1418
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,840
already

1419
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,360
we UDOT and this is standard practice

1420
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,120
across the country. We've already

1421
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,640
identified

1422
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,560
we've spent all our money out through

1423
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,360
2030, 2031. So if you came to us and

1424
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,680
said, "Hey, we got this problem we need

1425
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,040
to fix it now."

1426
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,760
and it was big expensive kind of thing,

1427
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,640
we kind of have to say,

1428
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,000
"I wish you would have talked to us 5

1429
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,760
years ago, right?"

1430
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,440
Um so being very involved and engaged in

1431
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,360
helping us understand your plans for the

1432
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,680
future

1433
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,400
to hopefully help avoid that become

1434
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,080
before it becomes a problem is the ideal

1435
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,040
way and the best way to do it.

1436
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,960
Unfortunately, the flip side of it too

1437
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,200
is sometimes

1438
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,200
well, and we see this a lot. We are

1439
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,360
growing so fast that there's lots of

1440
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,200
fires out there that we're trying to get

1441
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,000
a hold and put out fires

1442
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,400
and so it makes it

1443
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,600
we do end up sometimes playing catch-up

1444
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,000
as well.

1445
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,090
And a great example of that is anybody

1446
00:51:06,090 --> 00:51:06,800
[clears throat] that's driven to

1447
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,840
Saratoga Springs Eagle Mountain lately

1448
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,960
or you know, we can think I can name a

1449
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,480
handful of places where you're like, "Oh

1450
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,480
going to Vineyard, shoot, you know, they

1451
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,920
built a city in a

1452
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,720
I I call it a fish bowl, right? With

1453
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:22,640
between the railroad tracks and the lake

1454
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,680
and the

1455
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,800
you know, it there's lots of issues out

1456
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,240
there and so we're scrambling out there

1457
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:29,360
trying to catch up and deal with some of

1458
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,480
those things as well. So

1459
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,120
really the best part is being engaged in

1460
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,560
our process, really thinking hard about

1461
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,600
what's WFRC's what what are the issues

1462
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,000
that we see or foresee and let's see if

1463
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,320
we can work with MAG to figure out

1464
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,880
what's the best

1465
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,000
solutions to those problem, allow us to

1466
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,720
work with you, you. UTA, whoever the

1467
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:54,680
right partnership is to say, "Okay, how

1468
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,080
do we get this done?" Because a lot of

1469
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,640
times

1470
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,600
especially with the big projects, it's a coalition of a lot of people, a

1471
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,520
lot of work, and a lot of coordination.

1472
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,480
And that's what we're trying to do as we

1473
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,000
can as to

1474
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,800
bring the group together and have those

1475
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,480
conversations. Yeah.

1476
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,840
>> Any kind of related this actually two

1477
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,040
questions, one not related to this one.

1478
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,640
I

1479
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,840
noticing a lot more traffic coming out

1480
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,400
of Provo Canyon. So, I wonder if you can

1481
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,960
talk to us about what you see happening

1482
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,880
there.

1483
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,680
>> You know,

1484
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,680
Provo Canyon, I I think that is

1485
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,040
my my personal read on that is

1486
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,560
mostly a lot of that is due to

1487
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,320
usage of the canyon, especially in the

1488
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,920
summer, right?

1489
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,280
It's become a destination for recreation

1490
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,760
and to just the growth in Wasatch and

1491
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,280
Summit counties.

1492
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,560
You guys probably all know this, but a

1493
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,080
big problem they have is they're growing

1494
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,440
like crazy, but only

1495
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,520
I think the last time I saw 30 to 35% of

1496
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,000
units or homes built up there are owner

1497
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,120
not owner occupied, but they're primary

1498
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,040
residence. A vast majority of the of

1499
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,560
those are second homes. And so, one of

1500
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,440
the problems they have is

1501
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,000
a school teacher or anybody that works

1502
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,400
up there just can't afford to live up

1503
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,760
there. So, there's probably a lot of

1504
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,440
commute up there as well. That's

1505
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,680
probably part of it. It's growing like

1506
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,000
crazy up there for sure and just the

1507
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,520
growth down here.

1508
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,280
So, I think that's

1509
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,120
a lot of the issues that you're probably

1510
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,880
seeing and is probably

1511
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,000
going to continue I would assume so just

1512
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,120
with growth and I mean, I'm a kid. I

1513
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,160
grew up in Lehi when Lehi didn't have a

1514
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,800
traffic signal in town and there was 100

1515
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:47,440
kids in my graduating class and now it's I can't like I don't recognize the

1516
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,680
place anymore, right? It's just

1517
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,640
the pluses and minuses of living in a

1518
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,320
good economically thriving place like

1519
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,200
Utah is and that's

1520
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,680
something we got to deal with.

1521
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,800
>> Well, I would love to see that just at

1522
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,120
least address cuz in the summer you get

1523
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,920
lines from the light at the bottom of

1524
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,720
the hill all like miles back.

1525
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:07,760
>> Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. UDOT I know is

1526
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,000
does have plans to look at that mini

1527
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,040
interchange and they've worked with your

1528
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,000
group a lot to talk about that. So

1529
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,720
there's there's plans in the works. I

1530
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:18,680
don't know if they have a funded project

1531
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,360
in the next

1532
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,400
5 or 10 years?

1533
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,520
>> I can highlight something that he said

1534
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,520
was

1535
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,720
a lot of times these take sort of multi

1536
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:29,840
jurisdictional partnerships.

1537
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,840
>> Absolutely.

1538
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,880
>> Um Ryan could give just a brief update

1539
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,520
on what he heard from UDOT as it relates

1540
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,040
to the continuous

1541
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,040
turn into forum from the canyon.

1542
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,320
>> Yeah, they're they're currently working

1543
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,920
on a design for a project. Um I don't

1544
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,560
remember the year there off the top of

1545
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,040
my head but I'll have to look it up. Do

1546
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,800
you remember?

1547
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,720
>> I was relatively soon though.

1548
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:54,080
>> If they're working on design, I would

1549
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,760
assume they usually don't start design

1550
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,200
until they've got money to build it

1551
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,360
relatively quickly. So

1552
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,680
if they're working on design

1553
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:02,560
>> Thank you.

1554
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,040
>> I'm guessing. I could look it up and

1555
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,280
tell you in a little bit. It'll take me a few

1556
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,200
minutes. So

1557
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,200
>> Yeah.

1558
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,960
>> Okay, my next question is and gentlemen,

1559
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,240
you talked about you look at new modes

1560
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:13,960
of transportation. Have you addressed at

1561
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:14,920
all

1562
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:15,680
this

1563
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,800
proliferation of electric

1564
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,440
transportation? So electric bikes,

1565
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,600
electric

1566
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,320
one wheels, all those things.

1567
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,160
>> We we get we get it all, right? Um

1568
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,280
that is a that is a great question and

1569
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,840
we're starting to get more and more

1570
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,280
questions about that. You know, 5 years

1571
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,840
ago we were we're building

1572
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,280
like the Murdock Canal Trail seemed like

1573
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,000
huge. It seemed like this huge wide

1574
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,120
trail.

1575
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,920
Why could we have Where Why could we

1576
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,480
ever have

1577
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,400
uh problems on it? And now with

1578
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,800
proliferation

1579
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,200
Excuse me, proliferation of that,

1580
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,840
we don't really have a great solution

1581
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,360
for it right now. It's really an

1582
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,240
enforcement and unfortunately it's kind

1583
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:57,280
of at the city's feet to just kind of

1584
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,480
say, "Well, how are we going to do with

1585
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,680
that?"

1586
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,320
I would imagine that more and more if we

1587
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,120
start to see more and more use of those

1588
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,480
kinds of transportation modes,

1589
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,480
that we might see a proliferation of

1590
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,880
things like um cycle tracks where it's

1591
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,120
kind of like a trail, but

1592
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,880
only for cyclists and and it's a little

1593
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,080
bit more safe than just being in a bike

1594
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,080
lane or just off the side of the road.

1595
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,120
If we really start seeing a lot of that,

1596
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,880
we'll start probably planning for more

1597
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,600
of those kinds of things. UDOT has the

1598
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,920
Utah trans Utah trail network that

1599
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,360
they're dealing with a lot of that kind

1600
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:34,600
of stuff.

1601
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,360
But we also we we grapple with a lot of

1602
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,160
different transportation mode issues

1603
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,120
like

1604
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,000
on-demand air mobility. We're actually

1605
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,920
working with UDOT right now to start

1606
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,200
UDOT's actually working on identifying

1607
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,040
potential locations where it could work

1608
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,880
and sharing with cities best practices

1609
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,600
to identify locations and regulation

1610
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,320
about how that could be in the future.

1611
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,360
We also get lots of questions about a

1612
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,520
lot of different things like connected

1613
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,360
autonomous vehicles.

1614
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,520
If you If all of our If everybody drove

1615
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,000
a Tesla that talked to each other,

1616
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,960
we could actually

1617
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,400
If they're so efficient that we could

1618
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,280
actually get lots more capacity out of

1619
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,160
our existing system, but we just got to

1620
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,280
catch up to the technology.

1621
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,840
Another big one that we've dealt with in

1622
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,520
the past is people that work from home.

1623
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,800
During before the pandemic, I think Utah

1624
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,640
was pretty high and we had roughly like

1625
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,520
I want to say 10% of people would that

1626
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,680
work from home full time

1627
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,840
during the pandemic that skyrocketed and

1628
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,160
everybody loved it because when you

1629
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,240
drove you're like wow, where did all the

1630
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,320
congestion go? This is great.

1631
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,320
And at the time we grappled with well,

1632
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,520
what and people would say nobody's going

1633
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,800
to go back to work. Nobody's going to

1634
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,000
have to go back to the office. Well,

1635
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,360
we've seen that that's changed but we

1636
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,480
had to grapple with what does that mean?

1637
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,360
Because if we think we're going to jump

1638
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,080
to 20 or 30% in the future

1639
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,320
you know, that can have big effects on

1640
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,040
our long-range plans that we don't want

1641
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,680
to undershoot so to speak. So there's

1642
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,040
lots of different technology

1643
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,400
aspects that we deal with. We don't get

1644
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,200
a lot into the regulation of those

1645
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,800
electric um

1646
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,800
scooters and bicycles and so forth just

1647
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,720
because that's kind of outside our that

1648
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,840
policy that policy and regulation is kind of

1649
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,280
outside of our purview. We certainly

1650
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,920
could

1651
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,120
act as a maybe a gathering point to have

1652
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,440
conversations about it. I know Wasatch

1653
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,560
County's really struggled with this and

1654
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,760
they all came together to kind of do a

1655
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,360
standardized

1656
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,120
regulation of it so to speak. So

1657
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,880
>> I was going to say that's what we would

1658
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,760
like your help with cuz you already

1659
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,200
provide a venue for all of the mayors to

1660
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,400
gather and

1661
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,480
elected officials and so we we want to

1662
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,240
make we want to approach it in a with a

1663
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,520
unified front and so we've been

1664
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,440
gathering materials to bring you know

1665
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,080
what some cities and and counties do and

1666
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:01,480
so

1667
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,560
>> For the April MPO meeting

1668
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:04,560
>> Okay, great. Yeah.

1669
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,880
>> with the with that

1670
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,920
>> So let me just throw something else on

1671
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,520
and answer your question um

1672
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,040
a lot of that then happens at the

1673
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,480
transit agency level for instance.

1674
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,400
Um UTA looks at a lot of that what we

1675
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,640
call first mile last mile

1676
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,760
type connections to their to their

1677
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,720
facilities to their stations and to

1678
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,000
their systems.

1679
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,480
So a lot of that

1680
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,280
planning work from that perspective

1681
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,960
happens with them.

1682
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,880
Again, that's more local, so it's not so

1683
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,600
much our purview from a regional

1684
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,040
perspective. And also, as as Bob

1685
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,600
mentioned with the regulation and the codifying of of those

1686
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,280
regulations, that falls on to the the

1687
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,280
local government level.

1688
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,600
Madam Mayor, I will also let you know

1689
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,160
that one of the things you will hear at

1690
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,800
the MPO board meeting on Thursday

1691
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,371
we had a separate

1692
00:59:53,371 --> 00:59:53,520
>> [clears throat]

1693
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:58,320
>> separate community under the MPO for

1694
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,080
kind of kind of looking at growth topics

1695
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,760
and things. Well, we decided to maybe

1696
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,560
back from that and make it more of a

1697
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,280
regional forum.

1698
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,360
So, these are some of the topics

1699
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,240
that we'd like to see in that regional

1700
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,280
forum is that you guys could all talk

1701
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,680
about them together and and come to some

1702
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,640
maybe maybe Orem has the has the initial

1703
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,080
legislation and then Provo and Ogden and

1704
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,760
Lehi and Ogden

1705
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,120
some of those kind of things. So, we

1706
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,480
don't like to make that as a

1707
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,280
it's part of our regional growth forum.

1708
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,000
Great topics. How do we deal with this

1709
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,480
micro transportation?

1710
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:32,960
>> Yep.

1711
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,840
>> We've We've got to go to a closed door

1712
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,480
session, so about 5 more minutes.

1713
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,000
>> If I

1714
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,960
have any other questions, we're happy.

1715
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,480
Also, you can always

1716
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,440
request us to come back. We're here to

1717
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,720
serve you and answer your questions, so

1718
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,520
>> Mayor and Councilman Ryan has a

1719
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,080
>> thing an answer on

1720
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:51,600
>> Okay.

1721
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:52,440
>> the mouth of the canyon.

1722
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,840
>> Yeah, so UDOT's currently in a concept

1723
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,240
and estimate phase with Avenue

1724
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,840
Consultants.

1725
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,720
It's not done. Um I don't think that

1726
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,240
means it's funded.

1727
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,360
But, that's the first step to get

1728
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,720
funding is to have the concept and

1729
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:06,360
estimate.

1730
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,000
>> Um

1731
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,840
>> Yeah, and then I just wanted to share

1732
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,800
that Bob meets with our engineering team

1733
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,280
every month and

1734
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,440
with UDOT and UTA, and we are always

1735
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:17,640
talking about all of these projects

1736
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,720
together.

1737
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,200
And he's fantastic to work with him.

1738
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,320
We'll follow during the El Malo. I know

1739
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,040
Kevin's fairly new, but I'm better than

1740
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,382
Kevin.

1741
01:01:26,382 --> 01:01:31,110
>> [laughter]

1742
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,200
» And who are your favorite staff?

1743
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,960
>> 100%

1744
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,172
This isn't being recorded, right?

1745
01:01:38,172 --> 01:01:39,120
>> [laughter]

1746
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,160
>> This is our office, so our offices are

1747
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,057
actually moving

1748
01:01:44,067 --> 01:01:44,720
» [laughter]

1749
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,680
>> I I appreciate you Kevin. I'm sorry that

1750
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,600
probably cut your presentation a little

1751
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,600
bit. The council, of course, we can have

1752
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,040
them come back. There's so much more I

1753
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,760
know you haven't covered.

1754
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,000
But I

1755
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,520
This was one of those things is when I

1756
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,160
became mayor it was a firehose. There

1757
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,800
are several firehoses. This was This was

1758
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,240
probably firehose with a capital F.

1759
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,000
And

1760
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,240
>> And that's why you have us to help you

1761
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,800
through that.

1762
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,160
You also have the presentation. And our

1763
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,000
contact information is in there along

1764
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,760
with all those links.

1765
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:13,280
>> Okay.

1766
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,400
>> mention so you can get in touch with us.

1767
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,360
We've got We've got business cards and

1768
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,800
uh brochures and things that we'll leave

1769
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,400
with you that you can

1770
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,000
share [clears throat] or use as confetti

1771
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,400
and I'm more happy to

1772
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,720
>> have amazing resources on their website,

1773
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,520
too. All this

1774
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:29,520
>> Thank you for your time.

1775
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,400
>> so much.

1776
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:31,040
>> Thank you.

1777
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,590
>> We will you okay.

1778
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,720
All right, counselor food is here.

1779
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,000
Um I've asked counselor Ever Lamp if he

1780
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,000
would

1781
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,720
or here if he would offer a blessing on

1782
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,720
the food. And then after we get our food

1783
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:45,920
then we will

1784
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,800
go into the closed session.

1785
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,600
>> Our Father in Heaven we come before thee

1786
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,440
in gratitude

1787
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,080
to thank you for this day, to thank you

1788
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,520
for the opportunity of being together,

1789
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,840
to thank thee for the opportunity of

1790
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,600
serving.

1791
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,680
Thank you Heavenly Father for this food

1792
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:02,760
we

1793
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,160
ask you that you bless it that it will

1794
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,670
be

1795
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:07,960
nourishing and strengthening to our

1796
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,600
bodies that we might use that strength

1797
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,320
to do good to serve thee and to serve

1798
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:12,120
our

1799
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,800
fellow citizens.

1800
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,440
We pray for thy spirit to be with us

1801
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:16,680
throughout our meetings this evening

1802
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,080
that we might have thy spirit to guide

1803
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,480
and direct us

1804
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,200
uh here and always. We humbly humbly

1805
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,920
pray in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

1806
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,080
>> Thank [clears throat] you. Before we go

1807
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,640
to get our food, Nate, do you want to

1808
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,240
Should we do the motion to adjourn

1809
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,880
before you

1810
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,400
>> Mayors, to note, I think that we have

1811
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:34,320
uh

1812
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,560
the closed session is listed as item 13.

1813
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,800
So, I think there's a proposal to take

1814
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,000
that out of order.

1815
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:39,760
>> Is that right?

1816
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,120
>> Yes.

1817
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,640
>> Basically, move it up. Um and I

1818
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,520
And maybe you want to kind of split it

1819
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,800
cuz I think maybe you want to do the

1820
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,040
closed session partly now and then

1821
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,040
>> Partly now and partly later. Yes.

1822
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,600
>> So, um

1823
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,120
being just to note for the record that's

1824
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:53,960
what we're doing this morning.

1825
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,920
>> Okay. We're splitting up item number 13.

1826
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,320
And so, I would look for a motion to

1827
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,040
adjourn to a closed door session in the

1828
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,520
Summit Conference Room to discuss

1829
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,240
pending or reasonably imminent

1830
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,680
litigation, the character or

1831
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:06,880
professional competence of an

1832
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,360
individual, or the purchase or lease of

1833
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,520
real property.

1834
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,360
>> I'll move.

1835
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,120
>> All right. Thank you. We have a motion.

1836
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,000
Is there a second?

1837
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:14,800
>> Second.

1838
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,560
>> So, I have a second. Thank you. All

1839
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,320
those in favor, say aye.

1840
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:20,800
Um any opposed?

1841
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,760
All right. We met the five

1842
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,560
threshold for the five, so.

1843
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,120
Thank you. We got the food. And

1844
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,200
>> Taking food upstairs.

1845
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,480
>> Go upstairs.

1846
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,480
>> Thanks.

1847
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:33,760
>> I don't mean to sound bossy.

1848
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,160
>> Please, you're welcome to sit.

1849
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,960
>> We invite you to We invite you to take

1850
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,440
some food.

1851
01:04:38,440 --> 01:07:09,750
>> And eat and drink.

1852
01:07:09,760 --> 01:43:47,710
» Mhm.

1853
01:43:47,720 --> 01:46:47,430
» Yeah.

1854
01:46:47,440 --> 01:46:58,230
» 3 minutes. Hey, I can get this set up.

1855
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,240
Keith, are you coming over here?

1856
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:08,910
Remember?

1857
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:11,720
Uh Carmen says it's not going to play

1858
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:12,840
sound.

1859
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:14,520
They haven't They haven't got back to

1860
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,310
him.

1861
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,480
Well, it works now. It's when we turn on

1862
01:47:19,480 --> 01:47:20,720
Zoom.

1863
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:22,160
Oh, Zoom on?

1864
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,040
Hey, we can test it.

1865
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:25,520
>> Mhm.

1866
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:29,200
Cuz if not I give you this one mic.

1867
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:30,840
It sounds

1868
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:35,190
Oh.

1869
01:47:35,200 --> 01:48:35,990
I know what you're saying.

1870
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:36,960
» That's just me, right?

1871
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:40,430
>> Yes.

1872
01:48:40,440 --> 01:48:41,600
» He's going to see if he can find a

1873
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:53,590
sound.

1874
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,870
» You're not here.

1875
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,160
Okay. I'll give you my mic.

1876
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:00,280
I'll get I'll get some of these little

1877
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:00,400
things.

1878
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:14,070
>> Did he get the other one?

1879
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:20,190
» That's it.

1880
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:21,360
» That's the right one, right? Water

1881
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:26,550
reads.

1882
01:49:26,560 --> 01:51:10,190
» Make sure this one is.

1883
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:11,320
Oh, it says be turned on.

1884
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:14,190
>> Yeah.

1885
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:26,630
You need a new one.

1886
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:27,920
Okay, good to know.

1887
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:29,920
>> It's not great, but

1888
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:37,070
>> Okay, from there. Oh, and they are

1889
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,550
Yeah.

1890
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:41,360
I think

1891
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:51,830
What's up? I think I start those things.

1892
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:52,560
Okay.

1893
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:53,520
I am

1894
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:57,270
I think I am the best.

1895
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:03,830
I think I think I I think I am sorry.

1896
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:08,150
I think I am sorry.

1897
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,360
I think I am I think I am

1898
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:15,510
I think I am sorry.

1899
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:20,670
I think I am sorry.

1900
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:24,720
I think I am sorry.

1901
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:36,430
I think I think I am

1902
01:52:36,440 --> 01:52:40,120
I think I am sorry.

1903
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:47,400
I think I think I am I think I am sorry.

1904
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,800
I think I am

1905
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:54,440
I think I am sorry.

1906
01:52:54,440 --> 01:53:02,230
I think I am sorry.

1907
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:08,870
I think I am sorry.

1908
01:53:08,880 --> 01:55:07,630
I think

1909
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:15,270
» Trust.

1910
01:55:15,280 --> 01:56:38,310
That's sufficient.

1911
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:39,400
We're going to wait for Council and

1912
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:41,080
Kilpatrick for just another minute and

1913
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:43,340
then we'll go ahead and get started.

1914
01:56:43,340 --> 01:56:43,840
>> [gasps]

1915
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:47,120
>> We have 15 people signed up for personal

1916
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:50,240
appearances. So,

1917
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:51,720
you know what? I think we can do 3

1918
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:53,040
minutes each, but if you want to do

1919
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:55,200
less,

1920
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:56,640
great.

1921
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,920
Whatever you want to do, but the max

1922
01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:00,920
will be 3 minutes on that and it's a mix

1923
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:02,280
tonight.

1924
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:04,520
So I feel like I feel like a server at a

1925
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:07,680
restaurant tonight's specials

1926
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:10,640
are short-term rentals and the North

1927
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:12,520
Union Canal

1928
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:14,360
and then something I

1929
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,480
okay. I could read it so it looks like

1930
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:19,680
that's what's on the menu tonight. So

1931
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:21,520
not to make light of their comments but

1932
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:23,400
that's what we're going to be looks like

1933
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:24,600
those are all the what the comments will

1934
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:27,480
be about Canal Trails bike trails.

1935
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:28,960
So yeah, we'll wait for Council member

1936
01:57:28,960 --> 01:59:02,590
Kilpatrick.

1937
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:05,520
» All right. Welcome. Welcome to our city

1938
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,920
council meeting here on March 10th,

1939
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:11,560
2026. We're glad to have you here today.

1940
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:13,120
Just a

1941
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:14,720
tell you a little bit we had about our

1942
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,720
work session items. We had went and had

1943
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:19,960
a ribbon cutting. It felt like spring

1944
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:22,040
earlier today and then when it came time

1945
01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:24,080
to cut the ribbon a great wind rose and

1946
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,520
it felt like it was going to start

1947
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:28,200
snowing.

1948
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,080
So

1949
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:31,120
um

1950
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:32,920
So we have our great new water reuse

1951
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:35,680
facility that is is going to be coming

1952
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:38,200
online that will save millions of

1953
01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:40,560
gallons, tens of millions, hundreds of

1954
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,157
millions of gallons of water

1955
01:59:42,157 --> 01:59:42,360
>> [gasps]

1956
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:44,280
>> of of our culinary water that's being

1957
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,840
used to water

1958
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:48,400
golf course, Sleepy Ridge, and then

1959
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,600
parks over on the west side.

1960
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:52,360
And so we that's we had that today and

1961
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:54,520
we had a couple of presentations

1962
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:56,360
on that and appreciate you waiting for

1963
01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:59,200
us. We had a closed door session and and

1964
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:00,960
got here

1965
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:02,960
as soon as we can.

1966
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:04,960
As soon as we could, excuse me. So we'll

1967
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:06,160
start with an invocation and

1968
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:09,200
inspirational thought by Jeff Madsen and

1969
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:10,760
the pledge of allegiance will be led by

1970
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:12,400
Susan Madsen.

1971
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:18,230
Turn that over to you.

1972
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:20,360
» Our Father in heaven

1973
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:21,800
we're grateful to live in this beautiful

1974
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:24,280
city and for the opportunity to be

1975
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:25,640
together.

1976
02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:29,120
To We We are grateful for those who see

1977
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:31,840
to our needs and help keep us safe and

1978
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:33,840
pray a blessing upon them.

1979
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:36,640
As we begin this meeting we pray for

1980
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:38,320
harmony

1981
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:40,480
mutual respect

1982
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:43,280
and productivity as we see to the needs

1983
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:45,080
of our beautiful city. In the name of

1984
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:53,790
Jesus Christ. Amen.

1985
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:55,560
» Will all rise. You can join me in the

1986
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:57,400
pledge.

1987
02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:00,360
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

1988
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:02,640
United States of America

1989
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:05,440
and to the republic for which it stands,

1990
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:09,080
one nation under God, indivisible, with

1991
02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:16,870
liberty and justice for all.

1992
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:20,560
Thank you Madison's. Susan is a new one

1993
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:21,800
of our newest members of our planning

1994
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:23,520
commission and appreciate your service.

1995
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:24,993
Thank you.

1996
02:01:24,993 --> 02:01:25,160
>> [gasps]

1997
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:26,760
>> All right, we have two presentations

1998
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:28,920
this evening.

1999
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:31,360
We have the water reuse facility ribbon

2000
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:33,120
cutting recap.

2001
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:35,840
And so right

2002
02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:37,280
Chris, is it you? Are you coming up and

2003
02:01:37,280 --> 02:01:39,200
then Chris Shirkey, our public works

2004
02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:42,520
director, as well as Reed Price, our

2005
02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:45,120
assistant public works director. Thank

2006
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:50,310
you.

2007
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:51,440
» Thank you Mayor and Council. It was a

2008
02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:53,520
beautiful day today out at the water

2009
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:55,320
reclamation facility. We appreciate your

2010
02:01:55,320 --> 02:01:56,760
support.

2011
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:59,560
It's been 25 years in the making, so

2012
02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:00,880
finally had this great day to have the

2013
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:02,240
ribbon cutting.

2014
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:04,840
Um I'd like to have I'll turn the time

2015
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:07,600
over to Reed to present kind of a recap

2016
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:08,760
summary for those that who weren't

2017
02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:11,400
present and to give a summary of of all

2018
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:12,640
of the good things that are happening in

2019
02:02:12,640 --> 02:02:13,320
Or.

2020
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:16,240
>> Reed. Yeah, it was a great day. Um

2021
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:17,680
a monumental day, one that we've been

2022
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:19,080
waiting for for quite some time and

2023
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:21,840
appreciate the efforts of of my staff to

2024
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:25,120
get the facility looking so nice. Um

2025
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:26,720
also for Peter Wolfley and the

2026
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:29,600
communications team for their helping us

2027
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:31,360
to look at the little details and make

2028
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:33,760
sure that it was a good a good inviting

2029
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:36,880
event. So wanted to recog recognize them

2030
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:39,200
and appreciate your attendance as well.

2031
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:43,920
I know it means a lot to our staff to see a support

2032
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:47,000
from you. So, thank you for being there.

2033
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:49,400
So, this water reuse facility, when you

2034
02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:52,240
hear the term water reuse, it

2035
02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:53,640
you you kind of think it should be

2036
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:54,920
reused water. Well, that's what we're

2037
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:56,360
doing.

2038
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:59,120
It could also be called recycled water.

2039
02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:00,480
Um [snorts]

2040
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:05,040
and so we we call it the water reuse and nutrient removal

2041
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:07,200
facility. This facility has a dual

2042
02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:10,040
purpose. The first is to treat waste

2043
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:11,720
water and use it as a valuable

2044
02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:14,160
irrigation resource. And the second is

2045
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:15,680
to

2046
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:17,920
the facility can also remove phosphorus

2047
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:19,880
from the waste water stream.

2048
02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:22,920
Um this it has an advanced filtering

2049
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:24,920
uh

2050
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:31,080
um equipment in there that will eliminate phosphorus and decrease

2051
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:32,760
the amount of nutrients that flow to

2052
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:36,040
Utah Lake and and aid in its health.

2053
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:38,440
So, I'd like to first talk about

2054
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:40,960
the water reuse portion.

2055
02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:43,480
Um this has been decades in the making.

2056
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:46,280
It was envisioned back in the late 1990s

2057
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:53,440
and efforts were made to to submit an application to reuse um

2058
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:56,520
our our waste water. And it took a bit,

2059
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:58,560
but in 2003

2060
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:01,600
the application was approved and plans

2061
02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:07,960
were made to uh to knowing that we would be

2062
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:09,760
developing that someday and we put pipes

2063
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:11,880
in the ground so that we could supply

2064
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:14,320
water to the golf course that had not

2065
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:15,480
yet

2066
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:19,040
been been constructed um as well as

2067
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:21,280
extended that pipe to our Lakeside

2068
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:22,880
Sports Park, which was under

2069
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:24,880
construction at the time.

2070
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:25,640
Uh

2071
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:26,800
but

2072
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:29,160
it's been a long time.

2073
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:31,960
We started in about 2019 with an

2074
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:34,200
engineering firm to design it and

2075
02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:35,960
started construction

2076
02:04:35,960 --> 02:04:37,880
a little over a little under 3 years

2077
02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:38,840
ago.

2078
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:41,760
And today was the final day.

2079
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:45,400
So, why was this vision

2080
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:48,120
uh, made back in the late 1990s? Well,

2081
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:52,080
there's three key reasons. Um, one is,

2082
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:54,520
as as uh, the mayor and Chris mentioned,

2083
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:56,560
it saves millions of gallons of drinking

2084
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:59,080
water. We're essentially using water two

2085
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:01,360
times. Water that would have just gone

2086
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:03,880
on our, um,

2087
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:06,880
uh, would have gone on our lawns, uh,

2088
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:09,720
now can be, or sorry, not on our lawns,

2089
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:13,160
on the the, uh, turf at Sleepy Ridge

2090
02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:15,800
Golf Course and Lakeside Golf Course.

2091
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:17,080
Water, the drinking water that would

2092
02:05:17,080 --> 02:05:19,800
have gone there will now be, uh, reused

2093
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:21,120
water. Water that went through our

2094
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:22,520
system through a rigorous treatment

2095
02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:23,800
process,

2096
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:26,840
um, and made clean and suitable for

2097
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:28,160
irrigation.

2098
02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:30,240
It's also a natural fertilizer.

2099
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:32,520
Um, reuse water contains nutrients such

2100
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:34,040
as phosphorus

2101
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:35,880
and nitrogen.

2102
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:38,600
Those are things that our parks won't

2103
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:40,840
have to add because we're we're adding

2104
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:44,560
it through, um, the the reuse water.

2105
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:46,320
It's also drought-proof. Now,

2106
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:47,680
drought-proof's

2107
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:50,000
uh, kind of a strange term, but there's

2108
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:51,800
always going to be a supply of waste

2109
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:53,360
water that comes down through our

2110
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:59,920
treatment plant, and we will be able to use that when it comes through.

2111
02:05:59,920 --> 02:06:02,480
So, where will we be using it? Well,

2112
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:04,040
we'll be using it at Sleepy Ridge Golf

2113
02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:05,400
Course. They need about a million

2114
02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:06,840
gallons per day,

2115
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:08,840
uh, in order to keep that, uh, the

2116
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:09,960
course

2117
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:11,440
nice and green.

2118
02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:13,000
Uh, Lakeside Sports Park, which is

2119
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:15,000
programmed by our Parks and Recreation

2120
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:18,000
Department, um, with, uh, soccer and

2121
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:20,200
softball and other sports. They'll need

2122
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:22,680
about 400,000 gallons per day.

2123
02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:23,760
And then,

2124
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:25,600
uh, right next to the, uh, wastewater

2125
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:27,800
treatment plant is Springwater Park,

2126
02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:29,720
another neighborhood park, uh, which

2127
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:33,040
will be connected

2128
02:06:33,040 --> 02:06:35,240
at some point in the future. It It uh

2129
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:36,960
the first two will

2130
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:40,360
begin receiving uh reuse water this

2131
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:41,840
spring.

2132
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:43,720
water, we still need to connect

2133
02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:44,960
in at some point in the future we'll

2134
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:46,920
make that connection.

2135
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:49,720
So, one question that we get is is reuse

2136
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:52,680
water safe? And it absolutely is for uh

2137
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:58,480
for irrigation. It's It is clean. It is cleaner than most of the other

2138
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:00,160
communities that have secondary

2139
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:02,640
irrigation systems that don't treat

2140
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:05,000
their water. It just comes straight from

2141
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:09,400
a a surface water such as a a river or

2142
02:07:09,400 --> 02:07:10,880
other runoff.

2143
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:14,120
And so, this particular water type it

2144
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:16,480
it's it's a it's a different

2145
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:18,280
It's one that's hasn't been used where

2146
02:07:18,280 --> 02:07:20,800
we're cleaning waste water and kind of

2147
02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:24,440
has an ick factor, but we we uh

2148
02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:28,920
we treat it to type one reuse standards

2149
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:31,360
um which includes double disinfection.

2150
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:34,280
So, it's treated with UV

2151
02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:36,960
uh to kill which is the way we currently

2152
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:38,680
have always treated it for for many

2153
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:41,120
years. And then in order to use it for

2154
02:07:41,120 --> 02:07:43,920
reuse, we have to have a slight chlorine

2155
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:46,440
residual as well. So, we inject chlorine

2156
02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:48,720
at the end of the treatment process and

2157
02:07:48,720 --> 02:07:51,840
basically double disinfect it.

2158
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:54,560
That said, it is not suitable for human

2159
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:56,160
consumption. So,

2160
02:07:56,160 --> 02:07:58,680
we don't suggest that parents let their

2161
02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:01,840
children drink from the sprinklers. Um

2162
02:08:01,840 --> 02:08:04,320
it's dangerous anyway. Uh

2163
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:06,600
but uh but it's it's perfectly safe to

2164
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:09,280
use for irrigation purposes.

2165
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:10,720
Now, I said mentioned that this was a

2166
02:08:10,720 --> 02:08:13,440
dual purpose facility. The other purpose

2167
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:16,360
is to remove phosphorus and recent

2168
02:08:16,360 --> 02:08:18,800
regulations, because of the algae blooms

2169
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:21,960
at Utah Lake, um have

2170
02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:25,080
given a we have been given a phosphorus

2171
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:27,560
removal requirement where we have to get

2172
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:30,920
our wastewater flow down to 1 mg per

2173
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:33,280
liter or lower. And that became

2174
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:35,880
effective January 1st, 2026. Before

2175
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:37,960
this, we did not have one.

2176
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:39,160
And

2177
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:41,160
the discharge that we would send out

2178
02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:44,240
there ranged from 1 and 1/2 to 4 mg per

2179
02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:46,840
liter. So, we had to

2180
02:08:46,840 --> 02:08:48,680
it's a it's a significant amount that we

2181
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:50,720
need to to drop it.

2182
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:52,760
We can push this lower if we need to if

2183
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:54,760
regulations come out where they say

2184
02:08:54,760 --> 02:08:56,400
sorry, 1's not good enough. It's not

2185
02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:57,760
helping the lake. We need to push it to

2186
02:08:57,760 --> 02:08:59,760
0.5 or 0.1.

2187
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:01,600
This technology that we have will allow

2188
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:03,760
us to do that.

2189
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:06,600
Um mentioned that we had 1.5 million

2190
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:09,160
gallons that would be needed to irrigate

2191
02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:12,640
these the the golf course and the parks.

2192
02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:14,320
We get about 9 million gallons a day.

2193
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:17,080
So, a lot of the flow isn't going to be

2194
02:09:17,080 --> 02:09:18,800
used for irrigation. And we don't

2195
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:20,600
irrigate during the wintertime, either.

2196
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:23,480
So, most of the flow will go through and

2197
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:25,440
be treated for phosphorus.

2198
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:26,640
So,

2199
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:30,840
that's that's going to be a major portion

2200
02:09:30,840 --> 02:09:32,560
component of that.

2201
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:36,560
Um we can switch back and forth. So,

2202
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:38,280
we want the phosphorus in the reuse

2203
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:40,160
water. We don't want it going to the

2204
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:41,160
lake.

2205
02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:43,080
We don't We already disinfected it once,

2206
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:44,520
so we don't need to dose it with

2207
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:47,040
chlorine a second time when it goes to

2208
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:48,920
the lake, but

2209
02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:51,160
we have to dose it with chlorine when it

2210
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:53,080
goes to reuse. So,

2211
02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:56,920
um we will meet the type one reuse

2212
02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:58,760
regulations. And this will be a great

2213
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:00,560
thing for the city.

2214
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:02,280
Some questions were brought up. How was

2215
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:03,800
this funded?

2216
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:05,440
Um it was a

2217
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:07,200
uh initially estimated to be a $10

2218
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:09,240
million project that ended up costing

2219
02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:11,640
$21 million after the

2220
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:15,880
uh impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic. Um

2221
02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:19,000
we planned to to spend $10 million

2222
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:19,800
uh

2223
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:23,280
and needed to find another 11-million.

2224
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:25,400
We found 13.5 million dollars in

2225
02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:29,320
different grants from representative at

2226
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:31,960
the time, now Senator Curtis

2227
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:33,760
helped us get an a 3-million-dollar

2228
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:36,280
appropriation and we received ARPA

2229
02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:37,960
fundings, which is

2230
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:40,000
COVID funds from the federal government

2231
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:41,840
in amount of 7-million dollars from the

2232
02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:45,200
Utah County Commission. They had a

2233
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:49,520
funding that they could determine how to distribute it. The Utah

2234
02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:50,840
Governor's Office of Economic

2235
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:53,240
Opportunity provided a 1-million-dollar

2236
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:55,600
grant and a 2.5-million-dollar grant

2237
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:57,360
from the Utah Legislature for Utah Lake

2238
02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:58,720
improvements.

2239
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:01,400
So, about 7.5 million dollars came from

2240
02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:04,880
bonding and will be paid by the users

2241
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:08,120
of Orem City, our residents. So, we feel

2242
02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:09,560
that this is a

2243
02:11:09,560 --> 02:11:13,120
great investment, a great [sighs]

2244
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:17,080
It's been a great process to um

2245
02:11:17,080 --> 02:11:22,200
to to come to fruition and we're excited

2246
02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:26,280
to to to use the facility and and look

2247
02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:28,680
forward to the benefits that it that it

2248
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:33,630
will provide for decades to come.

2249
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:34,760
Thank you and this is

2250
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:38,560
>> Thank you. This is a big deal.

2251
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:40,560
It's a really big deal. I remember when

2252
02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:42,000
I before when I was on the council

2253
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:43,960
talking about this back in the olden

2254
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:45,040
days.

2255
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:45,680
And

2256
02:11:45,680 --> 02:11:46,480
>> Been talking about it for

2257
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:48,160
>> So excited for what it's going to do

2258
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:51,120
with water conservation and

2259
02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:54,280
good work. Any questions for Reed or

2260
02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:56,960
Chris, council?

2261
02:11:56,960 --> 02:11:59,240
Comments?

2262
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:00,280
What's that?

2263
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:02,120
Well, you do. Okay.

2264
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:04,920
>> This is enormously impressive. I'm so

2265
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:06,120
delighted that we have this in our

2266
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,600
community. I just think it is

2267
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:11,360
the combination of so much work from so

2268
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:13,600
many people over many years and I just

2269
02:12:13,600 --> 02:12:15,320
want to say uh

2270
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:16,440
how excited I am about it. I think

2271
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:17,640
fantastic.

2272
02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:19,440
>> Thank you, Mr. Rico.

2273
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:21,680
>> Oh, um Councilmember Meal Steen.

2274
02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:23,560
>> So, I love this project as well and it's

2275
02:12:23,560 --> 02:12:26,080
the it's just a great example of the

2276
02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:29,280
kind of forward thinking that Orem does

2277
02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:32,000
to protect our infrastructure moving

2278
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:33,480
forward into the future. We all know we

2279
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:35,200
live in a desert and that water is one

2280
02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:37,760
of the most valued commodities we have

2281
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:40,440
and so to to see projects like this go

2282
02:12:40,440 --> 02:12:42,120
forward and for us to be good stewards

2283
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:43,640
of what we have,

2284
02:12:43,640 --> 02:12:46,320
way to go past, present, everybody who's

2285
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:48,840
worked on this project. It's just a

2286
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:50,320
fantastic thing for our community and

2287
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:52,040
such a great example for the rest of the

2288
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:53,240
state. Thank you.

2289
02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:54,400
>> Thank you.

2290
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:56,240
We We'd like to say that the cream rises

2291
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,840
to the top and it doesn't go away. So,

2292
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:00,960
over 30 or 25 years ago, you know, this

2293
02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:02,560
idea was

2294
02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:04,320
you know, conceived and in conjunction

2295
02:13:04,320 --> 02:13:06,560
with others and the state allowed for us

2296
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:08,840
to to submit plans to do a reuse

2297
02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:11,200
project. We didn't have the appetite or

2298
02:13:11,200 --> 02:13:13,480
the funding available then, but we did

2299
02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:15,760
today. And we overcame a ginormous

2300
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:18,120
hurdle of the $10 million gap resulting

2301
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:20,880
from the COVID-19 pandemic and the uh

2302
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:22,840
sup- uh supply chain issues that were a

2303
02:13:22,840 --> 02:13:24,720
challenge there. I would like to mention

2304
02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:26,320
also that former Mayor Young was

2305
02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:29,160
instrumental in that $7 million grant

2306
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:30,400
through that we obtained through Utah

2307
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:33,200
County and that was uh a huge monumental

2308
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:36,280
um step in the in that in that in that

2309
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:38,360
direction. So, Rita and I were able to

2310
02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:40,040
go and present our project to that

2311
02:13:40,040 --> 02:13:43,560
council to the to the commission um

2312
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:45,120
among many other cities and other

2313
02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:47,160
players in the in the community and area

2314
02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:49,080
and we felt really comfortable, but we

2315
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:51,200
were unsure. And I know we walked away

2316
02:13:51,200 --> 02:13:53,360
thinking, "You know, I think we're going

2317
02:13:53,360 --> 02:13:55,640
to get it, but you know, you we'll see."

2318
02:13:55,640 --> 02:13:57,200
And then they did. They awarded it and

2319
02:13:57,200 --> 02:13:58,520
if that had not happened, this would

2320
02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:00,360
have been dead in the water. Excuse the

2321
02:14:00,360 --> 02:14:01,527
pun, but

2322
02:14:01,527 --> 02:14:01,600
>> [laughter]

2323
02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:04,240
>> literally dead in the water. So, we are

2324
02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:06,600
so grateful to the council, the mayors,

2325
02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:08,400
the current and past that have supported

2326
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:11,080
us and for Senator Curtis, for

2327
02:14:11,080 --> 02:14:13,840
Representative Kennedy, and for all of

2328
02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:15,000
the other players that have involved.

2329
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:16,960
We've had enormous support from Lyndon

2330
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:18,080
City

2331
02:14:18,080 --> 02:14:19,840
and we treat 100% of their their

2332
02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:22,520
wastewater today for about 12 12,000

2333
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:25,040
people. And then a a good portion of

2334
02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:28,040
southern southern port part of Vineyard

2335
02:14:28,040 --> 02:14:29,920
South of Provo South. So,

2336
02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:32,600
it's a regional facility and it's it's a

2337
02:14:32,600 --> 02:14:34,480
wonderful blessing for our community and

2338
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:37,160
for future generations and is expandable

2339
02:14:37,160 --> 02:14:39,480
and scalable and we are teaming up and

2340
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:42,320
working with Central Utah Water District

2341
02:14:42,320 --> 02:14:44,440
on expanding the facility to be able to

2342
02:14:44,440 --> 02:14:46,400
provide more water for future

2343
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:48,000
generations. So,

2344
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:50,440
thank you for your support.

2345
02:14:50,440 --> 02:14:51,680
>> All right, thank you Council member

2346
02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:52,960
Millet. I just wanted to say one thing.

2347
02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:54,760
I was in a meeting a couple weeks ago

2348
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:57,320
and it was um very interesting. There

2349
02:14:57,320 --> 02:14:59,320
was a comment made by someone who lived

2350
02:14:59,320 --> 02:15:00,720
on the west side of the lake, a

2351
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:03,360
derogatory comment about our green

2352
02:15:03,360 --> 02:15:06,240
um parks and our golf course.

2353
02:15:06,240 --> 02:15:08,360
And I just wanted to on that Zoom call

2354
02:15:08,360 --> 02:15:10,080
say, "Yeah, but do you know how we're

2355
02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:11,400
doing it?"

2356
02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:13,640
And this is it. We're recycling water.

2357
02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:15,440
We are doing it.

2358
02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:18,000
We are out in front of this. You are and

2359
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:20,320
I appreciate your efforts and like you

2360
02:15:20,320 --> 02:15:22,280
said, everyone from the past that has

2361
02:15:22,280 --> 02:15:24,320
done this because this is the way we're

2362
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:26,840
going to be successful at doing that

2363
02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:28,800
balance of providing these beautiful

2364
02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:31,320
areas for our kids to play soccer, for

2365
02:15:31,320 --> 02:15:33,760
our residents to

2366
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:35,600
get outdoor entertainment and get some

2367
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:37,920
vitamin D and be out there and

2368
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:39,760
thank you for what you've done.

2369
02:15:39,760 --> 02:15:40,800
>> Thank you.

2370
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,160
>> All right, thank you. Anyone else? Oh,

2371
02:15:43,160 --> 02:15:44,480
Council member Lamson.

2372
02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:46,720
>> I just want to add

2373
02:15:46,720 --> 02:15:50,000
to to Crystal's comment. I I marvel

2374
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:52,360
of the at the vision that you all have

2375
02:15:52,360 --> 02:15:55,320
had in putting pipes in ground when

2376
02:15:55,320 --> 02:15:56,680
there was nothing connected to those

2377
02:15:56,680 --> 02:15:57,840
pipes

2378
02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:01,000
knowing that one day this would happen

2379
02:16:01,000 --> 02:16:03,000
and and so then you just needed to kind

2380
02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:04,400
of make those connections to get the

2381
02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:05,760
water to the end of the road so to

2382
02:16:05,760 --> 02:16:07,120
speak.

2383
02:16:07,120 --> 02:16:09,360
Um so thank you. Uh, and and again, I

2384
02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:12,440
know that goes back generations. Uh,

2385
02:16:12,440 --> 02:16:13,960
but thank you for the foresight and

2386
02:16:13,960 --> 02:16:15,600
vision to put

2387
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:17,440
to add that piping as you're doing new

2388
02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:21,240
developments and as things move along.

2389
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:22,440
And I'm excited to hear that it's

2390
02:16:22,440 --> 02:16:24,480
expandable and scalable and that that

2391
02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:25,880
this is not the end of it. This is just

2392
02:16:25,880 --> 02:16:27,360
the beginning.

2393
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:29,520
So, thank you.

2394
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:33,270
>> All right, thank you.

2395
02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:35,480
All right, the next item on our agenda

2396
02:16:35,480 --> 02:16:37,719
is a presentation

2397
02:16:37,719 --> 02:16:40,519
um employee appreciation day

2398
02:16:40,519 --> 02:16:42,559
um with our presenters Amy Peterson who

2399
02:16:42,559 --> 02:16:44,679
is the city's HR manager and Pete

2400
02:16:44,679 --> 02:16:47,080
Wolfley, communications manager and

2401
02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:50,040
public information officer. So, welcome.

2402
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:51,639
>> Hey, thank you. Good morning or good

2403
02:16:51,639 --> 02:16:54,160
evening, mayor and council members.

2404
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:56,040
This past Friday was National Employee

2405
02:16:56,040 --> 02:16:58,120
Appreciation Day. It was a great day for

2406
02:16:58,120 --> 02:17:00,000
us to recognize the incredible people

2407
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:01,760
who keep the city of Orem running every

2408
02:17:01,760 --> 02:17:02,800
day.

2409
02:17:02,800 --> 02:17:03,840
Thank you for this opportunity to

2410
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:05,240
publicly recognize the many

2411
02:17:05,240 --> 02:17:07,880
contributions of the city's employees.

2412
02:17:07,880 --> 02:17:09,840
Much of what our employees do to make

2413
02:17:09,840 --> 02:17:12,120
Orem clean, friendly, and a wonderful

2414
02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:14,400
city happens behind the scenes. Much of

2415
02:17:14,400 --> 02:17:16,400
the work is done in the early mornings

2416
02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:18,320
and the late nights and doesn't receive

2417
02:17:18,320 --> 02:17:20,120
the attention it deserves. But, our

2418
02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:22,000
dedicated employees always keep the

2419
02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:23,800
mission in mind and strive each and

2420
02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:26,000
every day to build a better Orem. The

2421
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:28,000
employee culture we have here is truly

2422
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:30,639
one of a kind. Employees who have worked

2423
02:17:30,639 --> 02:17:32,480
at other organizations or even other

2424
02:17:32,480 --> 02:17:35,360
cities tell us that what we have in Orem

2425
02:17:35,360 --> 02:17:37,040
is really special.

2426
02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:38,480
While we celebrate the professional

2427
02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:40,360
contributions of our staff, I also want

2428
02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:42,000
to share a personal experience that

2429
02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:43,800
illuminates the truly exceptional

2430
02:17:43,800 --> 02:17:46,360
culture of our organization.

2431
02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:48,920
Following a recent cancer diagnosis, I

2432
02:17:48,920 --> 02:17:50,519
had the privilege of I've had the

2433
02:17:50,519 --> 02:17:52,800
privilege of witnessing first hand the

2434
02:17:52,800 --> 02:17:54,840
kind of thoughtful and deeply supportive

2435
02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:56,719
nature of our employees.

2436
02:17:56,719 --> 02:17:58,639
The outpouring of generosity has been

2437
02:17:58,639 --> 02:18:00,599
overwhelming from thoughtful gift

2438
02:18:00,599 --> 02:18:03,000
baskets, cards, flowers, and our

2439
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:05,240
firefighters bringing my family dinner,

2440
02:18:05,240 --> 02:18:07,160
and countless employees stopping by my

2441
02:18:07,160 --> 02:18:09,000
office between treatments to check on

2442
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:09,920
me.

2443
02:18:09,920 --> 02:18:11,599
This profound support from our Orem

2444
02:18:11,599 --> 02:18:12,960
family has helped me get through some

2445
02:18:12,960 --> 02:18:15,480
very tough days. It is clear that the

2446
02:18:15,480 --> 02:18:17,639
dedication of our employees extends far

2447
02:18:17,639 --> 02:18:20,080
beyond their job descriptions, affirming

2448
02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:22,080
that Orem employees are without a doubt

2449
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:24,639
truly the best. On behalf of the human

2450
02:18:24,639 --> 02:18:26,400
resources team, we want to express our

2451
02:18:26,400 --> 02:18:28,400
sincere appreciation to every city of

2452
02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:30,400
Orem employee. Thank you for the work

2453
02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:32,160
you do and for the pride you take in

2454
02:18:32,160 --> 02:18:34,200
serving this community. And then now

2455
02:18:34,200 --> 02:18:36,559
we'd like to show you a short um video

2456
02:18:36,559 --> 02:18:38,599
that Pete Woolley and his communications

2457
02:18:38,599 --> 02:19:53,590
team put together.

2458
02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:55,680
» Thank you.

2459
02:19:55,680 --> 02:19:56,640
I'm

2460
02:19:56,640 --> 02:19:58,600
just going to also express my

2461
02:19:58,600 --> 02:20:03,440
appreciation to the wonderful staff we have here. We have a

2462
02:20:03,440 --> 02:20:05,600
at the city of Orem. It's it's an

2463
02:20:05,600 --> 02:20:08,040
amazing environment.

2464
02:20:08,040 --> 02:20:10,960
And it's a privilege to serve with with

2465
02:20:10,960 --> 02:20:12,800
all the employees.

2466
02:20:12,800 --> 02:20:15,800
And it's a it's a great place. And Amy,

2467
02:20:15,800 --> 02:20:18,720
I wish you the best in your treatments.

2468
02:20:18,720 --> 02:20:20,200
And

2469
02:20:20,200 --> 02:20:21,640
I'm [clears throat] sure other council

2470
02:20:21,640 --> 02:20:23,560
members would have something to say as

2471
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:25,000
well.

2472
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:27,400
Okay, Council Member Gale.

2473
02:20:27,400 --> 02:20:29,360
>> I have been in office now for just over

2474
02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:31,360
2 years. And the one thing that has just

2475
02:20:31,360 --> 02:20:33,160
struck me again and again and again is

2476
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:37,600
how amazing our city staff is. Everyone is is just awesome. And we

2477
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:38,760
really appreciate the things that you

2478
02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:41,440
do. You keep our city moving. And most

2479
02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:42,800
of it is behind the scenes. And most of

2480
02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:45,160
it residents don't even realize. But you

2481
02:20:45,160 --> 02:20:46,880
do it so well. And we're so grateful.

2482
02:20:46,880 --> 02:20:48,200
So, thank you.

2483
02:20:48,200 --> 02:20:49,720
>> Mike.

2484
02:20:49,720 --> 02:20:51,600
Thank you. Anyone else? Council Member

2485
02:20:51,600 --> 02:20:52,320
Kilpack.

2486
02:20:52,320 --> 02:20:54,160
>> Thank you. I I just also want to

2487
02:20:54,160 --> 02:20:56,360
reiterate the blessing that it is to

2488
02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:58,400
inter- interact with all of those who

2489
02:20:58,400 --> 02:21:01,000
are uh city employees, the staff, and

2490
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:03,240
all those that come to create what we

2491
02:21:03,240 --> 02:21:05,000
enjoy as citizens.

2492
02:21:05,000 --> 02:21:07,120
And as uh elected officials as we

2493
02:21:07,120 --> 02:21:10,480
participate in this marvelous area of a

2494
02:21:10,480 --> 02:21:12,920
collection of families in a community

2495
02:21:12,920 --> 02:21:15,160
where we feel we truly feel that

2496
02:21:15,160 --> 02:21:17,080
blessing and that opportunity to to

2497
02:21:17,080 --> 02:21:19,920
gather together and do great things. And

2498
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:22,680
the culture is really exemplified in the

2499
02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:25,120
power of what you do

2500
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:27,120
with each other, for each other, for us

2501
02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:29,920
as a community. So, thank you all who uh

2502
02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:31,360
serve in any way in our city as

2503
02:21:31,360 --> 02:21:32,560
employees. Thank you.

2504
02:21:32,560 --> 02:21:33,920
>> Thank you.

2505
02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:35,720
Any other council members?

2506
02:21:35,720 --> 02:21:37,120
All right.

2507
02:21:37,120 --> 02:21:38,720
Thank you.

2508
02:21:38,720 --> 02:21:41,000
All right. Our next item on the agenda

2509
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:44,120
is our consent item. We have approval

2510
02:21:44,120 --> 02:21:48,640
of the February 24th, 2026 meeting

2511
02:21:48,640 --> 02:21:51,360
minutes, city council meeting minutes.

2512
02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:53,400
Um I'd entertain a motion.

2513
02:21:53,400 --> 02:21:55,360
>> Mayor, I move that we

2514
02:21:55,360 --> 02:21:57,520
uh approve the meeting minutes from

2515
02:21:57,520 --> 02:21:59,960
February 24th, 2026.

2516
02:21:59,960 --> 02:22:01,240
>> Right, thank you. We have a motion. Is

2517
02:22:01,240 --> 02:22:02,160
there a second?

2518
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:03,360
>> I'll second that.

2519
02:22:03,360 --> 02:22:04,880
>> Right, thank you. We have a motion and a

2520
02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:06,160
second.

2521
02:22:06,160 --> 02:22:07,840
Um, I'm going to start I usually start

2522
02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:09,440
I'll start over. Not to break with

2523
02:22:09,440 --> 02:22:11,240
tradition, start down here with how um

2524
02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:13,120
Council Member Lampson, how do you vote?

2525
02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:19,440
>> I.

2526
02:22:19,440 --> 02:22:21,950
>> Right, motion carries. Thank you.

2527
02:22:21,953 --> 02:22:21,960
» [snorts]

2528
02:22:21,960 --> 02:22:24,680
>> Item number nine is time for personal

2529
02:22:24,680 --> 02:22:26,960
appearances. Time has been set aside for

2530
02:22:26,960 --> 02:22:28,720
the public to express their ideas,

2531
02:22:28,720 --> 02:22:30,760
concerns, and comments on items not

2532
02:22:30,760 --> 02:22:32,200
scheduled as public hearings on the

2533
02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:33,440
agenda.

2534
02:22:33,440 --> 02:22:35,600
Those wishing to speak are encouraged to

2535
02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:37,120
show respect for those who serve the

2536
02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:39,360
city. Comments should focus on issues

2537
02:22:39,360 --> 02:22:41,880
concerning the city. Those wishing to

2538
02:22:41,880 --> 02:22:44,360
speak needed to have signed up before

2539
02:22:44,360 --> 02:22:46,280
the beginning of the meeting and

2540
02:22:46,280 --> 02:22:47,760
encourage you to please limit your

2541
02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:51,320
comments to 3 minutes or less.

2542
02:22:51,320 --> 02:22:53,400
So, we'll go ahead and we'll start with

2543
02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:55,240
Lisha Geddes.

2544
02:22:55,240 --> 02:22:57,480
Is Lisha here? Oh, there you are.

2545
02:22:57,480 --> 02:22:59,520
Welcome.

2546
02:22:59,520 --> 02:23:01,760
And then the next person, is it Tawny?

2547
02:23:01,760 --> 02:23:03,480
Is there someone named Tawny here? Okay,

2548
02:23:03,480 --> 02:23:04,680
I'm going to just if you could say your

2549
02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:05,840
last put your last name so we can hear

2550
02:23:05,840 --> 02:23:07,720
your last name for the record when you

2551
02:23:07,720 --> 02:23:10,240
when it's your turn.

2552
02:23:10,240 --> 02:23:11,760
>> Mayor and council members, thank you for

2553
02:23:11,760 --> 02:23:13,044
your time.

2554
02:23:13,044 --> 02:23:13,520
>> [clears throat]

2555
02:23:13,520 --> 02:23:14,920
>> My name is Lisha Geddes and I'm a

2556
02:23:14,920 --> 02:23:17,360
resident of Orem. That still is really

2557
02:23:17,360 --> 02:23:18,840
loud.

2558
02:23:18,840 --> 02:23:21,400
Um, I also operate a basement apartment

2559
02:23:21,400 --> 02:23:23,040
as a short-term rental. We are

2560
02:23:23,040 --> 02:23:24,640
owner-occupied and it's been a wonderful

2561
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:26,640
blessing to us and also to our neighbors

2562
02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:28,240
as we've been able to

2563
02:23:28,240 --> 02:23:29,680
uh facilitate a lot of their family

2564
02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:31,280
members as they've come into town for

2565
02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:32,800
special events.

2566
02:23:32,800 --> 02:23:34,920
I'm here today to express my support for

2567
02:23:34,920 --> 02:23:36,880
a clear enforceable short-term rental

2568
02:23:36,880 --> 02:23:39,680
policy rather than an outright ban. A

2569
02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:41,960
ban may seem like a solution, but it

2570
02:23:41,960 --> 02:23:43,680
actually removes the city's ability to

2571
02:23:43,680 --> 02:23:46,280
manage short-term rentals effectively.

2572
02:23:46,280 --> 02:23:48,120
Banning short-term rentals does not

2573
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:49,720
eliminate problematic short-term

2574
02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:50,880
rentals,

2575
02:23:50,880 --> 02:23:53,360
but regulating them does. A well-defined

2576
02:23:53,360 --> 02:23:55,360
policy would give the city the tools it

2577
02:23:55,360 --> 02:23:58,760
needs, licensing, inspections, parking

2578
02:23:58,760 --> 02:24:01,200
standards, occupancy rules, and the

2579
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:03,280
ability to shut down bad actors, which

2580
02:24:03,280 --> 02:24:05,960
we fully support. I fully support.

2581
02:24:05,960 --> 02:24:07,480
Without these guidelines, enforcement

2582
02:24:07,480 --> 02:24:09,000
becomes inconsistent and nearly

2583
02:24:09,000 --> 02:24:10,840
impossible.

2584
02:24:10,840 --> 02:24:11,880
In my neighborhood, the difference

2585
02:24:11,880 --> 02:24:13,560
between short-term rentals and long-term

2586
02:24:13,560 --> 02:24:16,160
rentals is striking. I have four short

2587
02:24:16,160 --> 02:24:19,040
four short-term rentals within a

2588
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:21,280
5-minute walk of my home.

2589
02:24:21,280 --> 02:24:22,560
Um

2590
02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:25,480
they are clean, cared for, and quiet.

2591
02:24:25,480 --> 02:24:26,960
Owners take pride in maintaining them

2592
02:24:26,960 --> 02:24:28,880
because reviews and guest expectations

2593
02:24:28,880 --> 02:24:31,880
depend on it. Meanwhile, also within a

2594
02:24:31,880 --> 02:24:34,600
few doors on either side, I have five

2595
02:24:34,600 --> 02:24:37,120
long-term rentals.

2596
02:24:37,120 --> 02:24:39,480
Uh these are consistently in violation

2597
02:24:39,480 --> 02:24:41,880
of existing ordinances. The homes have

2598
02:24:41,880 --> 02:24:44,480
overcrowded parking, property neglect,

2599
02:24:44,480 --> 02:24:46,360
and continuing ongoing issues that are

2600
02:24:46,360 --> 02:24:48,360
far more disruptive to our neighborhood

2601
02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:50,800
than any of the short-term rentals are.

2602
02:24:50,800 --> 02:24:52,640
This highlights a key point. The issue

2603
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:54,200
isn't short-term rentals, it's the

2604
02:24:54,200 --> 02:24:55,880
absence of standards and enforcement

2605
02:24:55,880 --> 02:24:58,200
tools. A policy would fix that, a ban

2606
02:24:58,200 --> 02:24:59,400
would not.

2607
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:01,080
A thoughtful short-term rental policy

2608
02:25:01,080 --> 02:25:02,800
allows the city to set clear

2609
02:25:02,800 --> 02:25:04,560
expectations for property care and

2610
02:25:04,560 --> 02:25:06,480
maintenance, regulate parking and

2611
02:25:06,480 --> 02:25:09,160
occupancy, enforce quiet hours, hold

2612
02:25:09,160 --> 02:25:11,680
operators accountable through licensing

2613
02:25:11,680 --> 02:25:13,640
and inspections, protect neighborhoods

2614
02:25:13,640 --> 02:25:15,720
from problem properties, whether short

2615
02:25:15,720 --> 02:25:18,080
or long-term. And importantly, it allows

2616
02:25:18,080 --> 02:25:21,040
responsible home homeowners like myself

2617
02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:22,880
to continue contributing positively to

2618
02:25:22,880 --> 02:25:24,800
the community. Many of us rely on this

2619
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:27,560
income to offset rising living expenses

2620
02:25:27,560 --> 02:25:30,280
and remain in Orem. We want to comply.

2621
02:25:30,280 --> 02:25:32,000
We welcome the rules, and we want

2622
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:33,680
consistency.

2623
02:25:33,680 --> 02:25:35,440
I urge the council to adopt a balanced

2624
02:25:35,440 --> 02:25:37,200
short-term rental policy, one that

2625
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:39,240
supports neighborhoods, supports

2626
02:25:39,240 --> 02:25:41,000
enforcement, and supports responsible

2627
02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:42,920
homeowners. Thank you so much for your

2628
02:25:42,920 --> 02:25:43,800
time and your service.

2629
02:25:43,800 --> 02:25:46,000
>> Thank you.

2630
02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:47,840
All right, Tawny, you're up next and

2631
02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:50,960
then on deck we have Chris Hammond after

2632
02:25:50,960 --> 02:25:53,080
Tawny.

2633
02:25:53,080 --> 02:25:54,720
>> I can't remember her name, but I agree

2634
02:25:54,720 --> 02:25:56,720
with everything she just said.

2635
02:25:56,720 --> 02:25:58,920
>> Um Lisha.

2636
02:25:58,920 --> 02:26:00,880
>> That was great. My name is Tawny

2637
02:26:00,880 --> 02:26:04,040
Merrill, m e r r e l l. I am an Orem

2638
02:26:04,040 --> 02:26:06,440
resident and I do have a landlord

2639
02:26:06,440 --> 02:26:08,720
license and I have a VRBO next to my

2640
02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:11,280
home in Orem and we've had a very

2641
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:13,400
pleasant experience. We've never

2642
02:26:13,400 --> 02:26:15,200
received complaints from our neighbors.

2643
02:26:15,200 --> 02:26:16,960
As a matter of fact, two of my neighbors

2644
02:26:16,960 --> 02:26:19,440
have actually rented our home

2645
02:26:19,440 --> 02:26:21,240
so that they could have a gathering

2646
02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:22,760
place for family when they came for

2647
02:26:22,760 --> 02:26:25,040
special occasions or the holidays.

2648
02:26:25,040 --> 02:26:27,320
Um one item that I have not heard

2649
02:26:27,320 --> 02:26:29,320
brought up at our city of the city

2650
02:26:29,320 --> 02:26:32,760
council meetings is that the STRs do pay

2651
02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:36,280
lodging taxes on every rental in

2652
02:26:36,280 --> 02:26:38,600
addition to the property taxes assessed

2653
02:26:38,600 --> 02:26:40,560
to all property owners.

2654
02:26:40,560 --> 02:26:43,160
Um these taxes include a mass transit

2655
02:26:43,160 --> 02:26:46,000
tax at the district level as a general

2656
02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:48,840
sales and use tax. Um Orem City, Utah

2657
02:26:48,840 --> 02:26:51,840
County, and Utah State all receive

2658
02:26:51,840 --> 02:26:54,200
accommodation tax and general sales and

2659
02:26:54,200 --> 02:26:58,680
use tax. And these taxes total 14%

2660
02:26:58,680 --> 02:27:01,360
of every user's total booking amount.

2661
02:27:01,360 --> 02:27:03,640
Thus Orem City, Utah County, and Utah

2662
02:27:03,640 --> 02:27:06,200
State all benefit from the taxes on

2663
02:27:06,200 --> 02:27:09,280
STRs. Um I'm sure the city treasurer

2664
02:27:09,280 --> 02:27:11,480
should be able to provide you with an

2665
02:27:11,480 --> 02:27:14,600
annual report on the revenue generated

2666
02:27:14,600 --> 02:27:16,080
by STRs.

2667
02:27:16,080 --> 02:27:19,160
Um one other thing that

2668
02:27:19,160 --> 02:27:21,400
I don't think anybody has mentioned is

2669
02:27:21,400 --> 02:27:23,480
um our VRBO

2670
02:27:23,480 --> 02:27:26,560
has had several people rent from us

2671
02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:29,120
because they are coming to Utah County

2672
02:27:29,120 --> 02:27:31,960
for specialized medical treatment. Um in

2673
02:27:31,960 --> 02:27:34,480
particular brain trauma treatment.

2674
02:27:34,480 --> 02:27:36,440
Apparently there's one in Provo that

2675
02:27:36,440 --> 02:27:38,360
they come to. And they require

2676
02:27:38,360 --> 02:27:41,040
facilities that are clean, that are

2677
02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:43,760
quiet, and that they can have their

2678
02:27:43,760 --> 02:27:45,720
patient come to and feel calm and

2679
02:27:45,720 --> 02:27:48,280
relaxed and stress-free, be able to cook

2680
02:27:48,280 --> 02:27:50,360
their meals at home and not be exposed

2681
02:27:50,360 --> 02:27:51,360
to,

2682
02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:53,200
you know, whatever is out in the

2683
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:56,080
community. So, um I think that's one

2684
02:27:56,080 --> 02:27:58,280
more reason why it's important that we

2685
02:27:58,280 --> 02:28:00,960
have short-term rentals available to

2686
02:28:00,960 --> 02:28:03,320
people that have that need. Um earlier

2687
02:28:03,320 --> 02:28:04,522
today,

2688
02:28:04,522 --> 02:28:05,000
>> [clears throat]

2689
02:28:05,000 --> 02:28:07,440
>> I sent an email to each of you and

2690
02:28:07,440 --> 02:28:10,240
included a list of possible solutions

2691
02:28:10,240 --> 02:28:12,040
that may be helpful to both sides of

2692
02:28:12,040 --> 02:28:14,560
this STR debate, um

2693
02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:17,080
including parking restrictions and guest

2694
02:28:17,080 --> 02:28:18,840
limitations,

2695
02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:19,480
um

2696
02:28:19,480 --> 02:28:22,840
STR owner monitoring of their property,

2697
02:28:22,840 --> 02:28:25,400
requiring STR owners to be a Utah

2698
02:28:25,400 --> 02:28:28,440
resident might be a good idea. And

2699
02:28:28,440 --> 02:28:31,200
providing event regulations if someone

2700
02:28:31,200 --> 02:28:33,880
has an event at their rental. And also

2701
02:28:33,880 --> 02:28:38,400
providing, um STR host training class

2702
02:28:38,400 --> 02:28:41,280
that would um require every owner who

2703
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:43,560
has a short-term rental to take the

2704
02:28:43,560 --> 02:28:46,160
class so that they would be eligible to

2705
02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:48,360
be a host. So, I hope that some of these

2706
02:28:48,360 --> 02:28:50,200
suggestions are helpful to you in your

2707
02:28:50,200 --> 02:28:53,040
discussions as a city council on how to

2708
02:28:53,040 --> 02:28:56,200
regulate STRs in Orem so that all those

2709
02:28:56,200 --> 02:28:58,520
that are impacted have a more positive

2710
02:28:58,520 --> 02:29:00,800
experience. Thank you.

2711
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:02,840
>> Thank you, and I'll look I'll look for

2712
02:29:02,840 --> 02:29:04,760
that email and and read it. Appreciate

2713
02:29:04,760 --> 02:29:07,800
it. Next up is uh Ms. Hammon, and then

2714
02:29:07,800 --> 02:29:10,760
after her, Jeff

2715
02:29:10,760 --> 02:29:13,000
starts with a G. Um

2716
02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:15,520
it's about the North Union Canal.

2717
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:17,760
Okay, is that you? Okay, you're next.

2718
02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:19,720
I'm sorry.

2719
02:29:19,720 --> 02:29:21,080
I look forward to hearing you say your

2720
02:29:21,080 --> 02:29:22,468
last name.

2721
02:29:22,468 --> 02:29:24,240
>> [laughter]

2722
02:29:24,240 --> 02:29:26,520
>> Hi to all of you. Guess what? It's the

2723
02:29:26,520 --> 02:29:28,600
old lady one more time. Take a deep

2724
02:29:28,600 --> 02:29:29,320
breath.

2725
02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:30,280
I'm here again.

2726
02:29:30,280 --> 02:29:31,720
>> to come.

2727
02:29:31,720 --> 02:29:34,320
>> So, I'm a real estate agent and this

2728
02:29:34,320 --> 02:29:36,920
last weekend I have a family who is

2729
02:29:36,920 --> 02:29:38,040
looking

2730
02:29:38,040 --> 02:29:40,200
to purchase a home so that their huge

2731
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:42,440
family can have a gathering that is a

2732
02:29:42,440 --> 02:29:44,800
short-term rental. So, we traveled all

2733
02:29:44,800 --> 02:29:48,040
over to Camas, Coalville, and Midway and

2734
02:29:48,040 --> 02:29:50,760
Heber. And I had to research regulations

2735
02:29:50,760 --> 02:29:53,480
before we went. And in all of those

2736
02:29:53,480 --> 02:29:55,680
cities they did not eliminate short-term

2737
02:29:55,680 --> 02:29:58,120
rentals but have done some regulation.

2738
02:29:58,120 --> 02:30:00,160
And some of the things that I thought

2739
02:30:00,160 --> 02:30:01,720
that were important were the guidelines

2740
02:30:01,720 --> 02:30:04,840
we're using, the size of the home as far

2741
02:30:04,840 --> 02:30:07,440
as occupancy standards, things like not

2742
02:30:07,440 --> 02:30:09,040
parking in

2743
02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:10,520
front of someone's driveway as a

2744
02:30:10,520 --> 02:30:13,080
restriction. But one of the things that

2745
02:30:13,080 --> 02:30:14,720
I think is important is in the state

2746
02:30:14,720 --> 02:30:18,320
legislature even HOAs can no longer

2747
02:30:18,320 --> 02:30:20,000
restrict or

2748
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:21,800
ticket people that are parking on the

2749
02:30:21,800 --> 02:30:23,920
street because it's public and you pay

2750
02:30:23,920 --> 02:30:26,600
taxes to use those streets. And so,

2751
02:30:26,600 --> 02:30:28,800
I I have a concern about that. Not that

2752
02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:30,640
in my particular home, I think we would

2753
02:30:30,640 --> 02:30:32,200
have plenty of parking.

2754
02:30:32,200 --> 02:30:34,280
Uh when the discussion

2755
02:30:34,280 --> 02:30:36,200
about changes in Orem for short-term

2756
02:30:36,200 --> 02:30:37,760
rentals started over a year and a half

2757
02:30:37,760 --> 02:30:38,920
ago,

2758
02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:40,480
it started out with the understanding

2759
02:30:40,480 --> 02:30:41,960
that we were going to find some way to

2760
02:30:41,960 --> 02:30:44,280
work together and that we were going to

2761
02:30:44,280 --> 02:30:46,400
problem solve on and improve

2762
02:30:46,400 --> 02:30:47,920
communication with the city and the

2763
02:30:47,920 --> 02:30:49,160
neighborhoods

2764
02:30:49,160 --> 02:30:51,440
to be responsible owners. Unfortunately,

2765
02:30:51,440 --> 02:30:54,320
something has changed in the last while.

2766
02:30:54,320 --> 02:30:56,200
The conversation has become increasingly

2767
02:30:56,200 --> 02:30:58,920
negative and divisive. Orem has moved to

2768
02:30:58,920 --> 02:31:02,400
being an A+ place to be to a D and it's

2769
02:31:02,400 --> 02:31:05,600
no longer family city USA. The public

2770
02:31:05,600 --> 02:31:07,520
dialogue surrounding this issue has

2771
02:31:07,520 --> 02:31:09,720
created different perceptions of Orem

2772
02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:12,480
and its residents. Many people now feel

2773
02:31:12,480 --> 02:31:14,520
hesitant to speak openly and engage in

2774
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:17,600
civil discussion, some forming opinions

2775
02:31:17,600 --> 02:31:19,320
about short-term rentals without ever

2776
02:31:19,320 --> 02:31:21,840
having been there and use them. In my

2777
02:31:21,840 --> 02:31:24,760
research, the role of the city council

2778
02:31:24,760 --> 02:31:26,520
as far as what I have learned should be

2779
02:31:26,520 --> 02:31:28,200
expected to be something that is

2780
02:31:28,200 --> 02:31:31,120
objective without bias carefully

2781
02:31:31,120 --> 02:31:32,920
weighing both the positive and negative

2782
02:31:32,920 --> 02:31:35,720
impacts of any policy decision.

2783
02:31:35,720 --> 02:31:37,680
It is certainly true that not every

2784
02:31:37,680 --> 02:31:40,480
short-term rental is a good neighbor. It

2785
02:31:40,480 --> 02:31:42,880
is also true that not every long-term

2786
02:31:42,880 --> 02:31:46,040
rental or property owner is a good

2787
02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:48,320
neighbor. There are issues all over the

2788
02:31:48,320 --> 02:31:49,280
way.

2789
02:31:49,280 --> 02:31:51,960
This raises the question of is it the

2790
02:31:51,960 --> 02:31:53,640
role of the city to enforce every

2791
02:31:53,640 --> 02:31:55,680
neighborhood dispute or establish

2792
02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:58,910
documented

2793
02:31:58,920 --> 02:32:01,880
problem of all the responsible residents

2794
02:32:01,880 --> 02:32:03,920
to use their property.

2795
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:06,120
Um, there has been open discussion that

2796
02:32:06,120 --> 02:32:08,600
short-term rentals create a problem with

2797
02:32:08,600 --> 02:32:11,080
availability of housing yet currently

2798
02:32:11,080 --> 02:32:12,920
there are 150

2799
02:32:12,920 --> 02:32:17,560
rentals and 181 homes for sale. I cannot

2800
02:32:17,560 --> 02:32:19,160
see a correlation between short-term

2801
02:32:19,160 --> 02:32:22,000
rentals and the decrease in housing. I

2802
02:32:22,000 --> 02:32:23,440
hope that each member of the city

2803
02:32:23,440 --> 02:32:24,840
council will take a moment to put

2804
02:32:24,840 --> 02:32:27,240
yourself in my shoes and the shoes of

2805
02:32:27,240 --> 02:32:29,120
those who are property owners and

2806
02:32:29,120 --> 02:32:32,000
continue to use a responsibility

2807
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:34,840
and a and unbiased position to consider

2808
02:32:34,840 --> 02:32:36,960
what you're going to do. I believe the

2809
02:32:36,960 --> 02:32:38,560
responsibility of the council is to

2810
02:32:38,560 --> 02:32:40,560
approach the issue thoughtfully and

2811
02:32:40,560 --> 02:32:42,880
without prejudice fully informed about

2812
02:32:42,880 --> 02:32:45,120
both the benefits which are many of

2813
02:32:45,120 --> 02:32:46,240
short-term rentals which we've

2814
02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:48,640
discussed. My hopes is that Warren will

2815
02:32:48,640 --> 02:32:50,480
continue to live up to the spirit of

2816
02:32:50,480 --> 02:32:52,640
family USA a place where different

2817
02:32:52,640 --> 02:32:54,160
families different needs and different

2818
02:32:54,160 --> 02:32:57,240
housing options can coexist respectfully

2819
02:32:57,240 --> 02:32:59,160
and where everyone feels welcome. Thank

2820
02:32:59,160 --> 02:33:00,120
you.

2821
02:33:00,120 --> 02:33:01,800
>> Thank you.

2822
02:33:01,800 --> 02:33:03,200
All right.

2823
02:33:03,200 --> 02:33:05,280
Jeff, you're up and then on deck we have

2824
02:33:05,280 --> 02:33:15,990
Dean York.

2825
02:33:16,000 --> 02:33:17,040
» Good evening [clears throat] mayor and

2826
02:33:17,040 --> 02:33:20,200
council members. My name is Jeff Giffain

2827
02:33:20,200 --> 02:33:21,680
and I live a couple hundred feet from

2828
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:23,640
the North Union Canal and I'm here

2829
02:33:23,640 --> 02:33:25,160
tonight because I believe we have a rare

2830
02:33:25,160 --> 02:33:27,440
opportunity in front of us. It is my

2831
02:33:27,440 --> 02:33:29,240
understanding that the canal is being

2832
02:33:29,240 --> 02:33:31,600
decommissioned. That quarter through the

2833
02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:34,040
city is about to become idle and and I

2834
02:33:34,040 --> 02:33:35,960
think we have a great opportunity to

2835
02:33:35,960 --> 02:33:37,600
turn it into an asset that will benefit

2836
02:33:37,600 --> 02:33:39,760
the community for generations.

2837
02:33:39,760 --> 02:33:41,880
We've seen this type of trail work here

2838
02:33:41,880 --> 02:33:44,480
in Orem, the Murdock Canal Trail.

2839
02:33:44,480 --> 02:33:47,080
It is a 17-mi long paved corridor that

2840
02:33:47,080 --> 02:33:48,840
now serves hundreds of thousands of

2841
02:33:48,840 --> 02:33:51,600
users each year. We can do that same

2842
02:33:51,600 --> 02:33:53,880
thing again here. There are currently

2843
02:33:53,880 --> 02:33:56,040
several grant programs specifically

2844
02:33:56,040 --> 02:33:58,680
designed for projects like this. UDot's

2845
02:33:58,680 --> 02:34:01,320
Utah Trail Network program has already

2846
02:34:01,320 --> 02:34:03,280
funded canal trail conversions across

2847
02:34:03,280 --> 02:34:05,280
the state, one in Verdal and one in

2848
02:34:05,280 --> 02:34:07,840
Riverton, and they're actively looking

2849
02:34:07,840 --> 02:34:10,200
for new projects to fund.

2850
02:34:10,200 --> 02:34:12,120
There's other grants that are available

2851
02:34:12,120 --> 02:34:14,200
as well, the Transportation Alternative

2852
02:34:14,200 --> 02:34:16,840
Program, the Land and Water Conservation

2853
02:34:16,840 --> 02:34:20,040
Fund, and the Federal BUILD grants. All

2854
02:34:20,040 --> 02:34:22,680
of these funds would help alleviate the

2855
02:34:22,680 --> 02:34:24,840
resources needed by the city to build

2856
02:34:24,840 --> 02:34:27,000
this trail. Many of them will cover up

2857
02:34:27,000 --> 02:34:30,360
to 80% of the construction costs.

2858
02:34:30,360 --> 02:34:32,000
The key to accessing that money is

2859
02:34:32,000 --> 02:34:33,640
getting the quarter in the Regional

2860
02:34:33,640 --> 02:34:35,480
Transportation Plan through the

2861
02:34:35,480 --> 02:34:37,960
Mountainland Association of Governments.

2862
02:34:37,960 --> 02:34:40,840
That is the door that opens all these

2863
02:34:40,840 --> 02:34:42,960
other opportunities and the timing

2864
02:34:42,960 --> 02:34:45,640
matters. UDot's Trails Division is in

2865
02:34:45,640 --> 02:34:47,360
the middle of building out a statewide

2866
02:34:47,360 --> 02:34:50,120
master plan right now and the projects

2867
02:34:50,120 --> 02:34:52,440
that are in the pipeline get prioritized

2868
02:34:52,440 --> 02:34:54,320
for funding down the line.

2869
02:34:54,320 --> 02:34:55,560
Um

2870
02:34:55,560 --> 02:34:57,680
I'm asking the council if they would be

2871
02:34:57,680 --> 02:34:59,400
willing to direct the city staff to

2872
02:34:59,400 --> 02:35:01,760
contact the MAG and potentially Utah

2873
02:35:01,760 --> 02:35:04,200
Division of the Outdoor Recreation to

2874
02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:07,680
begin a feasibility conversation about

2875
02:35:07,680 --> 02:35:10,560
the North Union Canal Trail. Uh that at

2876
02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:12,800
least puts us in the room as the

2877
02:35:12,800 --> 02:35:15,240
opportunity for funding arises in the

2878
02:35:15,240 --> 02:35:17,680
future. Thank you so much for your time

2879
02:35:17,680 --> 02:35:19,200
and service.

2880
02:35:19,200 --> 02:35:20,240
Appreciate all your help.

2881
02:35:20,240 --> 02:35:21,200
>> Right. Thank you.

2882
02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:22,400
>> Thank you.

2883
02:35:22,400 --> 02:35:25,960
>> Um so, I Is it Gary? Is the one with

2884
02:35:25,960 --> 02:35:27,840
Gary that I would need

2885
02:35:27,840 --> 02:35:29,800
to or Steve? I'm going to ask for an

2886
02:35:29,800 --> 02:35:31,120
update

2887
02:35:31,120 --> 02:35:33,120
on where we are with the trail.

2888
02:35:33,120 --> 02:35:34,640
With the canal at some point Well, when

2889
02:35:34,640 --> 02:35:36,240
we get done with with the other

2890
02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:38,120
comments, just just at the end of the

2891
02:35:38,120 --> 02:35:39,680
public appearances because I know this

2892
02:35:39,680 --> 02:35:41,600
is something that that we as a council I

2893
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:43,600
believe we discussed at our retreat

2894
02:35:43,600 --> 02:35:46,480
about our desire to have

2895
02:35:46,480 --> 02:35:48,840
to to We expressed interest in in in

2896
02:35:48,840 --> 02:35:50,800
looking into that. So, I just don't know

2897
02:35:50,800 --> 02:35:52,680
where we're at right now on that. So,

2898
02:35:52,680 --> 02:35:55,280
we'll go ahead and have Mr. York

2899
02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:55,880
um

2900
02:35:55,880 --> 02:35:58,440
present, and then after him, Janette

2901
02:35:58,440 --> 02:35:59,680
York

2902
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:00,440
>> will be up.

2903
02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:02,200
>> She's related.

2904
02:36:02,200 --> 02:36:04,960
So, Dean York, a long-time Worm resident

2905
02:36:04,960 --> 02:36:07,760
and Airbnb owner,

2906
02:36:07,760 --> 02:36:10,080
uh locally owned and operated. We are

2907
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:13,280
within walking distance of our Airbnb

2908
02:36:13,280 --> 02:36:15,800
and that sleeps six. And uh we have a

2909
02:36:15,800 --> 02:36:17,240
lot of people come in for hatchings,

2910
02:36:17,240 --> 02:36:19,120
matchings, and dispatchings.

2911
02:36:19,120 --> 02:36:21,400
Also, uh like we said before, medical

2912
02:36:21,400 --> 02:36:23,720
issues. We have people that come to our

2913
02:36:23,720 --> 02:36:26,160
place because they like the quiet uh

2914
02:36:26,160 --> 02:36:28,480
home feel that they get with that. What

2915
02:36:28,480 --> 02:36:30,160
I've loved and what I've heard so far is

2916
02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:32,200
that people aren't just bringing you

2917
02:36:32,200 --> 02:36:33,520
problems.

2918
02:36:33,520 --> 02:36:35,800
They are bringing you solutions.

2919
02:36:35,800 --> 02:36:37,520
So, I'm just asking you to to weigh

2920
02:36:37,520 --> 02:36:39,240
those solutions.

2921
02:36:39,240 --> 02:36:42,760
Uh I served in uh public service for 29

2922
02:36:42,760 --> 02:36:44,760
years in a local city here.

2923
02:36:44,760 --> 02:36:47,120
And uh you have

2924
02:36:47,120 --> 02:36:50,280
uh businesses that have occupancy loads.

2925
02:36:50,280 --> 02:36:52,240
And only you know so many people can be

2926
02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:54,280
in those. Uh it's based on square

2927
02:36:54,280 --> 02:36:55,840
footage. It's It's based maybe on how

2928
02:36:55,840 --> 02:36:57,560
many bathrooms they have. There are

2929
02:36:57,560 --> 02:36:59,160
certainly things that you can look at

2930
02:36:59,160 --> 02:37:01,880
that would help. And none of us want to

2931
02:37:01,880 --> 02:37:05,480
be a bad short-term uh

2932
02:37:05,480 --> 02:37:07,640
owner. We want to have good experiences

2933
02:37:07,640 --> 02:37:10,200
for the people that come in.

2934
02:37:10,200 --> 02:37:13,000
And uh you need to have accountability

2935
02:37:13,000 --> 02:37:15,600
from us. But there has to be rules and

2936
02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:17,640
there has to be standards set that we

2937
02:37:17,640 --> 02:37:19,840
are all familiar with that we can we can

2938
02:37:19,840 --> 02:37:21,720
contribute with that.

2939
02:37:21,720 --> 02:37:23,800
I live in the Hillcrest area and a

2940
02:37:23,800 --> 02:37:26,040
majority of the Hillcrest area is a lot

2941
02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:28,960
of apartments. And so in in past

2942
02:37:28,960 --> 02:37:30,560
meetings I've heard about people saying,

2943
02:37:30,560 --> 02:37:32,600
"Well, we want people that put down

2944
02:37:32,600 --> 02:37:35,920
roots in in in our areas."

2945
02:37:35,920 --> 02:37:37,840
And uh

2946
02:37:37,840 --> 02:37:39,120
most of those apartments are going to be

2947
02:37:39,120 --> 02:37:40,400
students. They're not going to be here

2948
02:37:40,400 --> 02:37:43,880
for very long. So in our local uh clergy

2949
02:37:43,880 --> 02:37:46,120
and in our local meeting houses we have

2950
02:37:46,120 --> 02:37:47,960
a lot of turnover, a lot of transient

2951
02:37:47,960 --> 02:37:51,560
type turnover. So uh we're such a small

2952
02:37:51,560 --> 02:37:54,560
group uh these short-term um

2953
02:37:54,560 --> 02:37:57,520
owners that it a lot more effect I see

2954
02:37:57,520 --> 02:38:00,800
out of apartments than than from us.

2955
02:38:00,800 --> 02:38:04,360
So when we talk about putting down roots

2956
02:38:04,360 --> 02:38:08,120
uh my grandfather Milton Jameson uh

2957
02:38:08,120 --> 02:38:10,560
he was a mayor here in Orem.

2958
02:38:10,560 --> 02:38:16,110
And so my roots do run deep. But uh

2959
02:38:16,120 --> 02:38:18,240
just the area that I'm in with all those

2960
02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:19,800
apartments

2961
02:38:19,800 --> 02:38:22,000
my Airbnb doesn't make a whole lot of

2962
02:38:22,000 --> 02:38:23,920
difference. And the people that come my

2963
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:26,640
one my last group was from LA.

2964
02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:29,200
They came because their son entered the

2965
02:38:29,200 --> 02:38:33,320
MTC and their comment was

2966
02:38:33,320 --> 02:38:35,040
what a great experience it was to have

2967
02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:37,800
those last few days together after the

2968
02:38:37,800 --> 02:38:39,000
after they were going to have a 2-year

2969
02:38:39,000 --> 02:38:40,960
break from their son. So there's a lot

2970
02:38:40,960 --> 02:38:43,600
of benefits from us and and

2971
02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:46,520
as my time runs out, I do appreciate uh

2972
02:38:46,520 --> 02:38:49,240
the time that you put in and I know it's

2973
02:38:49,240 --> 02:38:51,000
a it's a sacrifice on your part as well.

2974
02:38:51,000 --> 02:38:52,960
So I just wanted to say thank you.

2975
02:38:52,960 --> 02:38:55,320
>> Thank you.

2976
02:38:55,320 --> 02:38:58,000
All right. Janette York and then Zach

2977
02:38:58,000 --> 02:39:05,550
Golding is on deck.

2978
02:39:05,560 --> 02:39:06,800
» Okay.

2979
02:39:06,800 --> 02:39:08,800
Mayor and council members, thank you so

2980
02:39:08,800 --> 02:39:11,640
much for listening to our concerns.

2981
02:39:11,640 --> 02:39:13,880
Um my husband and I, we have lived here

2982
02:39:13,880 --> 02:39:16,800
for 43 years and our children now live

2983
02:39:16,800 --> 02:39:18,520
here with our grandchildren. So it's

2984
02:39:18,520 --> 02:39:20,400
wonderful that we've got to stay here in

2985
02:39:20,400 --> 02:39:22,400
this tight community cuz we love living

2986
02:39:22,400 --> 02:39:23,520
here.

2987
02:39:23,520 --> 02:39:25,800
Um the thing that Dean neglected to say,

2988
02:39:25,800 --> 02:39:27,760
we're living on the same property as the

2989
02:39:27,760 --> 02:39:30,920
old mayor of Orem City where this Airbnb

2990
02:39:30,920 --> 02:39:34,245
is at. So it's kind of ironic. Um

2991
02:39:34,245 --> 02:39:34,680
>> [clears throat]

2992
02:39:34,680 --> 02:39:36,480
>> So

2993
02:39:36,480 --> 02:39:38,200
Uh we had to come up with something to

2994
02:39:38,200 --> 02:39:40,040
help us with our income now that we are

2995
02:39:40,040 --> 02:39:44,360
retired and we have this duplex and so

2996
02:39:44,360 --> 02:39:47,040
we have renters that have been in there

2997
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:49,920
and as they have left, we're shocked at

2998
02:39:49,920 --> 02:39:52,280
the damage the renters do leave cuz they

2999
02:39:52,280 --> 02:39:54,720
don't really care cuz it's not their

3000
02:39:54,720 --> 02:39:55,860
property.

3001
02:39:55,860 --> 02:39:55,960
>> [clears throat]

3002
02:39:55,960 --> 02:39:58,520
>> So after having so much damage, we

3003
02:39:58,520 --> 02:40:01,840
decided to make one of those an Airbnb.

3004
02:40:01,840 --> 02:40:05,080
And as you can imagine, we put a lot of

3005
02:40:05,080 --> 02:40:08,040
money into this. It's not easy to create

3006
02:40:08,040 --> 02:40:09,520
an Airbnb.

3007
02:40:09,520 --> 02:40:11,960
So we took a chunk of our savings

3008
02:40:11,960 --> 02:40:15,080
and we put it to good use into creating

3009
02:40:15,080 --> 02:40:17,720
a a beautiful Airbnb.

3010
02:40:17,720 --> 02:40:19,720
We

3011
02:40:19,720 --> 02:40:23,200
purchased all of our furniture here in

3012
02:40:23,200 --> 02:40:25,680
Orem from Ashley Furniture, all our

3013
02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:28,200
appliances from RC Willey,

3014
02:40:28,200 --> 02:40:32,720
and Costco supplies monthly abundance in

3015
02:40:32,720 --> 02:40:35,880
our Airbnb. So we keep a lot of our

3016
02:40:35,880 --> 02:40:39,960
business with our Airbnb here in Orem.

3017
02:40:39,960 --> 02:40:41,080
Um

3018
02:40:41,080 --> 02:40:44,120
in our Airbnb, we also have a list of

3019
02:40:44,120 --> 02:40:46,240
grocery stores,

3020
02:40:46,240 --> 02:40:49,560
um restaurants, coffee shops, all sorts

3021
02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:51,280
of things so people can go to. So the

3022
02:40:51,280 --> 02:40:53,360
people that stay with us, we keep them

3023
02:40:53,360 --> 02:40:55,840
here within our community spending their

3024
02:40:55,840 --> 02:40:58,480
money as they come in to help help with

3025
02:40:58,480 --> 02:40:59,800
the economy.

3026
02:40:59,800 --> 02:41:03,160
Um here we have one of our many, many

3027
02:41:03,160 --> 02:41:05,480
guest books. People come in, they send

3028
02:41:05,480 --> 02:41:07,360
us pictures, they tell us all sorts of

3029
02:41:07,360 --> 02:41:08,480
things.

3030
02:41:08,480 --> 02:41:11,080
And um

3031
02:41:11,080 --> 02:41:12,560
I did mark one, it happened to be a

3032
02:41:12,560 --> 02:41:14,600
medical one as well, and it says here,

3033
02:41:14,600 --> 02:41:17,560
"Dean and Jeanette, staying in your home

3034
02:41:17,560 --> 02:41:19,640
has been such a blessing

3035
02:41:19,640 --> 02:41:21,520
to our family as our father was in the

3036
02:41:21,520 --> 02:41:23,120
hospital.

3037
02:41:23,120 --> 02:41:25,600
Um and it was comforting for us to have

3038
02:41:25,600 --> 02:41:27,920
a home away from home. So, a lot of

3039
02:41:27,920 --> 02:41:30,360
people make the comment about how homey

3040
02:41:30,360 --> 02:41:33,080
our Airbnb is and how grateful they are

3041
02:41:33,080 --> 02:41:34,520
for that."

3042
02:41:34,520 --> 02:41:36,040
Our guests that are staying with us

3043
02:41:36,040 --> 02:41:38,400
right now are from

3044
02:41:38,400 --> 02:41:39,720
Seattle.

3045
02:41:39,720 --> 02:41:41,920
We've had people from all over all over

3046
02:41:41,920 --> 02:41:44,080
the country and a few out of the

3047
02:41:44,080 --> 02:41:46,080
country. And it's like, "How did you

3048
02:41:46,080 --> 02:41:47,880
find us? This is crazy, little old

3049
02:41:47,880 --> 02:41:49,800
Orem." Um

3050
02:41:49,800 --> 02:41:52,040
but the comment they made to us this

3051
02:41:52,040 --> 02:41:54,520
morning at 10:10 was,

3052
02:41:54,520 --> 02:41:57,480
"I'm constantly blown away with how

3053
02:41:57,480 --> 02:41:59,480
um perfectly you have created this

3054
02:41:59,480 --> 02:42:02,880
space. It is clean and it has everything

3055
02:42:02,880 --> 02:42:05,680
that is within need, and the views take

3056
02:42:05,680 --> 02:42:08,520
my breath away. This is a high-stress

3057
02:42:08,520 --> 02:42:10,040
week for us

3058
02:42:10,040 --> 02:42:13,520
with intense emotions. So much

3059
02:42:13,520 --> 02:42:15,960
um is going on. We are grateful to have

3060
02:42:15,960 --> 02:42:18,840
this space to call home base,

3061
02:42:18,840 --> 02:42:22,120
and we are truly blessed. So, we

3062
02:42:22,120 --> 02:42:25,280
constantly have comments like this.

3063
02:42:25,280 --> 02:42:27,640
Um and as my husband says, "Weddings,

3064
02:42:27,640 --> 02:42:30,320
blessings, be well you, everything.

3065
02:42:30,320 --> 02:42:32,880
Vacations, the medical is amazing,

3066
02:42:32,880 --> 02:42:34,560
graduations."

3067
02:42:34,560 --> 02:42:37,720
We have over 162 reviews, and we would

3068
02:42:37,720 --> 02:42:40,720
encourage you to go in and read those to

3069
02:42:40,720 --> 02:42:43,600
see how blessed we are with this Airbnb.

3070
02:42:43,600 --> 02:42:45,600
Um it has been a great decision for us

3071
02:42:45,600 --> 02:42:47,720
to create this Airbnb, and we've been

3072
02:42:47,720 --> 02:42:50,160
very blessed with it. So, we would hope

3073
02:42:50,160 --> 02:42:51,400
that you would keep that in your

3074
02:42:51,400 --> 02:42:53,560
considerations. Thank you.

3075
02:42:53,560 --> 02:42:55,400
>> Thank you.

3076
02:42:55,400 --> 02:42:58,480
Right, Zach. And after

3077
02:42:58,480 --> 02:43:01,480
Zach, Bennett Cookson will be up after

3078
02:43:01,480 --> 02:43:05,710
Zach Golding.

3079
02:43:05,720 --> 02:43:07,640
» Greetings, Orem City Council. My name is

3080
02:43:07,640 --> 02:43:09,280
Zach Golding, and I'm a resident,

3081
02:43:09,280 --> 02:43:12,080
business owner, and father here in Orem.

3082
02:43:12,080 --> 02:43:14,000
I live within the City Center and Sharon

3083
02:43:14,000 --> 02:43:16,280
Park neighborhoods. My wife and I

3084
02:43:16,280 --> 02:43:18,720
started the Cascade Elementary School

3085
02:43:18,720 --> 02:43:21,160
Bike Bus, and we are proud to say we are

3086
02:43:21,160 --> 02:43:22,960
the largest bike bus in the state of

3087
02:43:22,960 --> 02:43:24,040
Utah.

3088
02:43:24,040 --> 02:43:26,680
A bike bus is a large group of parents

3089
02:43:26,680 --> 02:43:28,320
and children who all ride their bikes

3090
02:43:28,320 --> 02:43:30,080
together to school one day out of the

3091
02:43:30,080 --> 02:43:32,920
week. We recently had Mayor McCandless

3092
02:43:32,920 --> 02:43:35,800
ride with us last week, as well as

3093
02:43:35,800 --> 02:43:37,920
Councilmember Lampson last year, and we

3094
02:43:37,920 --> 02:43:39,920
look forward to having many other

3095
02:43:39,920 --> 02:43:41,440
council members ride with us in the

3096
02:43:41,440 --> 02:43:43,640
future.

3097
02:43:43,640 --> 02:43:46,840
Um it's been an incredible experience to

3098
02:43:46,840 --> 02:43:48,680
see kids gaining confidence and

3099
02:43:48,680 --> 02:43:50,560
independence as they ride on our bike

3100
02:43:50,560 --> 02:43:53,400
bus on bike bus days, also when they

3101
02:43:53,400 --> 02:43:56,360
ride on their own during the week. Every

3102
02:43:56,360 --> 02:43:58,480
month, our bike bus continues to grow

3103
02:43:58,480 --> 02:44:01,120
with upwards of 70 people.

3104
02:44:01,120 --> 02:44:03,200
Our route goes directly over the North

3105
02:44:03,200 --> 02:44:05,480
Union Canal. I'm confident in saying

3106
02:44:05,480 --> 02:44:07,320
that if the North Union Canal was turned

3107
02:44:07,320 --> 02:44:09,440
into a pedestrian pathway, it would be

3108
02:44:09,440 --> 02:44:11,800
used daily by the elementary school kids

3109
02:44:11,800 --> 02:44:13,480
and their families that ride in our bike

3110
02:44:13,480 --> 02:44:14,480
bus.

3111
02:44:14,480 --> 02:44:15,960
Another benefit from this potential

3112
02:44:15,960 --> 02:44:17,680
trail would be people accessing the

3113
02:44:17,680 --> 02:44:19,680
farmers market here at the City Center

3114
02:44:19,680 --> 02:44:22,000
Park every Wednesday during the summer

3115
02:44:22,000 --> 02:44:24,240
months. As many of you can attest,

3116
02:44:24,240 --> 02:44:26,280
parking here can be an absolute

3117
02:44:26,280 --> 02:44:28,600
nightmare. I am also on the I am also a

3118
02:44:28,600 --> 02:44:30,560
board member of the volunteer advocacy

3119
02:44:30,560 --> 02:44:32,640
group Bike Orem that helps with the bike

3120
02:44:32,640 --> 02:44:34,880
valet, where people can park their bikes

3121
02:44:34,880 --> 02:44:37,320
as they ride ride to the farmers market.

3122
02:44:37,320 --> 02:44:39,080
We see more and more student more and

3123
02:44:39,080 --> 02:44:41,320
more residents riding their bikes to

3124
02:44:41,320 --> 02:44:43,440
this weekly market. We appreciate all

3125
02:44:43,440 --> 02:44:45,200
the improvements the city has made to

3126
02:44:45,200 --> 02:44:47,240
the City Center Park, making it more

3127
02:44:47,240 --> 02:44:48,760
pedestrian-friendly by adding more

3128
02:44:48,760 --> 02:44:51,200
crosswalks and signals to help with the

3129
02:44:51,200 --> 02:44:53,080
pedestrians accessing this beautiful

3130
02:44:53,080 --> 02:44:55,920
community event. This potential future

3131
02:44:55,920 --> 02:44:58,120
North Union Canal Trail will only

3132
02:44:58,120 --> 02:45:00,840
encourage and increase more people to

3133
02:45:00,840 --> 02:45:03,200
access the Farmers Market and many other

3134
02:45:03,200 --> 02:45:06,360
city events in a safe way that reduces

3135
02:45:06,360 --> 02:45:08,120
traffic and parking.

3136
02:45:08,120 --> 02:45:09,720
I have spoken with many of you and I

3137
02:45:09,720 --> 02:45:11,560
know that you are in support of this

3138
02:45:11,560 --> 02:45:13,600
potential North Union Canal Trail. So,

3139
02:45:13,600 --> 02:45:17,120
thank you. But I also realize that this

3140
02:45:17,120 --> 02:45:19,760
project could be a lengthy process with

3141
02:45:19,760 --> 02:45:22,160
many hurdles and barriers. I am here to

3142
02:45:22,160 --> 02:45:24,760
voice my support and lend my efforts in

3143
02:45:24,760 --> 02:45:27,640
any way I can to address any concerns

3144
02:45:27,640 --> 02:45:29,120
residents have.

3145
02:45:29,120 --> 02:45:30,800
I'm here to ask for the City Council to

3146
02:45:30,800 --> 02:45:32,840
pursue turning the North Union Canal

3147
02:45:32,840 --> 02:45:34,840
into a pedestrian-friendly pathway to

3148
02:45:34,840 --> 02:45:36,440
strengthen our connections in our

3149
02:45:36,440 --> 02:45:38,320
community. Thank you.

3150
02:45:38,320 --> 02:45:39,840
>> Thank you.

3151
02:45:39,840 --> 02:45:41,360
And if you've never ridden on a bike

3152
02:45:41,360 --> 02:45:43,280
bus,

3153
02:45:43,280 --> 02:45:45,920
it's it's fun. I Zach, I will be there

3154
02:45:45,920 --> 02:45:47,480
Friday.

3155
02:45:47,480 --> 02:45:49,564
Cuz I had so much fun on it.

3156
02:45:49,564 --> 02:45:49,800
>> [gasps]

3157
02:45:49,800 --> 02:45:52,800
>> All right. Um Bennett, and then after

3158
02:45:52,800 --> 02:45:55,680
Mr. Cookson, we have Shauna Meakin.

3159
02:45:55,680 --> 02:45:56,680
>> Okay.

3160
02:45:56,680 --> 02:45:58,880
So, my name is Bennett Cookson, and for

3161
02:45:58,880 --> 02:46:01,280
the last 16 years I've run my little

3162
02:46:01,280 --> 02:46:07,440
piece of the canal to water my trees in my yard. I'm sad that that there's no

3163
02:46:07,440 --> 02:46:09,200
longer going to be the

3164
02:46:09,200 --> 02:46:11,720
canal, but also I've been part of it

3165
02:46:11,720 --> 02:46:15,440
every year been part of a team that goes

3166
02:46:15,440 --> 02:46:18,720
and helps clean the extended canal. Like

3167
02:46:18,720 --> 02:46:20,520
not near my house, but miles from my

3168
02:46:20,520 --> 02:46:22,760
house up the canal we're cleaning it

3169
02:46:22,760 --> 02:46:24,760
every year, which is no longer going to

3170
02:46:24,760 --> 02:46:26,240
be happening.

3171
02:46:26,240 --> 02:46:28,440
Um so, I think those canals instead of

3172
02:46:28,440 --> 02:46:29,600
being a benefit they're going to just

3173
02:46:29,600 --> 02:46:31,520
going to become a hazard.

3174
02:46:31,520 --> 02:46:32,840
Um

3175
02:46:32,840 --> 02:46:35,400
and the other thing is that it's hard to

3176
02:46:35,400 --> 02:46:39,000
find safe trails through any city. Orem

3177
02:46:39,000 --> 02:46:41,440
has some particularly dangerous places.

3178
02:46:41,440 --> 02:46:43,120
I've almost almost been hit on State

3179
02:46:43,120 --> 02:46:44,480
Street,

3180
02:46:44,480 --> 02:46:47,280
uh City Street, you know, this Center

3181
02:46:47,280 --> 02:46:49,040
Street's got really dangerous places.

3182
02:46:49,040 --> 02:46:51,200
There's not any place to ride. You're

3183
02:46:51,200 --> 02:46:53,160
competing on the sidewalk.

3184
02:46:53,160 --> 02:46:55,400
And so, there's a unique opportunity to

3185
02:46:55,400 --> 02:46:57,320
be able to do on those canals because

3186
02:46:57,320 --> 02:46:59,600
they travel through neighborhoods in

3187
02:46:59,600 --> 02:47:01,880
ways there's no way that you could do

3188
02:47:01,880 --> 02:47:05,400
that without having that the right

3189
02:47:05,400 --> 02:47:07,200
that's canal pathway through. There's no

3190
02:47:07,200 --> 02:47:09,640
way you could just plow through

3191
02:47:09,640 --> 02:47:11,160
yards like that. And I think there's a

3192
02:47:11,160 --> 02:47:12,760
lot of issues with land ownership and

3193
02:47:12,760 --> 02:47:14,920
stuff, but I think it's worth

3194
02:47:14,920 --> 02:47:17,000
um addressing those. And I think there's

3195
02:47:17,000 --> 02:47:19,360
a huge value in doing that. Property

3196
02:47:19,360 --> 02:47:21,200
values are going to go up. So, I think

3197
02:47:21,200 --> 02:47:22,320
you can I

3198
02:47:22,320 --> 02:47:24,440
do that. And also,

3199
02:47:24,440 --> 02:47:26,680
the other topic of tonight has been the

3200
02:47:26,680 --> 02:47:28,400
short-term rentals. So, let me just make

3201
02:47:28,400 --> 02:47:31,000
one comment on that. I thank the city

3202
02:47:31,000 --> 02:47:32,400
council in coming up with the very

3203
02:47:32,400 --> 02:47:34,120
reasonable regulations because I think

3204
02:47:34,120 --> 02:47:35,360
if you don't have reasonable

3205
02:47:35,360 --> 02:47:37,080
regulations, you essentially have

3206
02:47:37,080 --> 02:47:40,120
unregulated short-term rentals. And I

3207
02:47:40,120 --> 02:47:42,680
have would have concerns on both sides.

3208
02:47:42,680 --> 02:47:44,680
And I think the the thing to do would be

3209
02:47:44,680 --> 02:47:47,280
to have well-regulated, good rules. And

3210
02:47:47,280 --> 02:47:49,320
one example is we have a member of my

3211
02:47:49,320 --> 02:47:51,880
family who

3212
02:47:51,880 --> 02:47:52,920
And I wouldn't

3213
02:47:52,920 --> 02:47:55,400
he lives in technically the owner lives

3214
02:47:55,400 --> 02:47:57,560
in California. He's an owner, but he has

3215
02:47:57,560 --> 02:48:00,440
a lot of family here including kids,

3216
02:48:00,440 --> 02:48:03,600
children, and me as extended relative.

3217
02:48:03,600 --> 02:48:04,920
And

3218
02:48:04,920 --> 02:48:07,080
what he'd like to do is

3219
02:48:07,080 --> 02:48:09,640
take a house that he might have a house

3220
02:48:09,640 --> 02:48:11,640
that he can use and have a place to stay

3221
02:48:11,640 --> 02:48:13,720
when he comes cuz he comes all the time.

3222
02:48:13,720 --> 02:48:15,200
And the rest of time you can fill in the

3223
02:48:15,200 --> 02:48:16,560
short-term rentals. Otherwise, you may

3224
02:48:16,560 --> 02:48:17,760
not be able to afford to have a house

3225
02:48:17,760 --> 02:48:19,400
sitting there vacant. And you wouldn't

3226
02:48:19,400 --> 02:48:21,480
want a vacant house anyway.

3227
02:48:21,480 --> 02:48:23,640
So, I think that's a reasonable use

3228
02:48:23,640 --> 02:48:24,800
case.

3229
02:48:24,800 --> 02:48:25,480
Um

3230
02:48:25,480 --> 02:48:27,040
maybe the requirement would be not that

3231
02:48:27,040 --> 02:48:28,840
the owner would have to be a resident,

3232
02:48:28,840 --> 02:48:30,160
but that the owner would have to have a

3233
02:48:30,160 --> 02:48:31,760
representative

3234
02:48:31,760 --> 02:48:34,520
in arm that could help address problems.

3235
02:48:34,520 --> 02:48:35,480
Thank you.

3236
02:48:35,480 --> 02:48:37,840
>> All right. Thank you.

3237
02:48:37,840 --> 02:48:39,200
All right.

3238
02:48:39,200 --> 02:48:42,840
Um Ms. Meachem is up. And then after Ms.

3239
02:48:42,840 --> 02:48:45,360
Meachem, Joshua Moore will be up.

3240
02:48:45,360 --> 02:48:46,840
>> Thank you. I'm Shanna Meachem,

3241
02:48:46,840 --> 02:48:49,920
co-director of Bike Orem. I want to

3242
02:48:49,920 --> 02:48:52,120
express thanks for the crossbox around

3243
02:48:52,120 --> 02:48:53,440
the city center, the temporary

3244
02:48:53,440 --> 02:48:55,480
roundabout on 900 East. I biked through

3245
02:48:55,480 --> 02:48:57,160
that every day. It was very fun. Love

3246
02:48:57,160 --> 02:48:59,640
the heart. Uh Bike Orem's goal is to

3247
02:48:59,640 --> 02:49:01,560
create safe streets for everyone and we

3248
02:49:01,560 --> 02:49:03,800
see the North Union Provo Bench Canals

3249
02:49:03,800 --> 02:49:06,160
as a way to support activity and

3250
02:49:06,160 --> 02:49:09,080
community and just an everyday natural

3251
02:49:09,080 --> 02:49:11,440
way, an opportunity that won't come

3252
02:49:11,440 --> 02:49:13,800
again anywhere near the city center.

3253
02:49:13,800 --> 02:49:15,720
So, our our primary goal with the North

3254
02:49:15,720 --> 02:49:18,640
Union is to have a connected safe trail

3255
02:49:18,640 --> 02:49:21,560
that ties in with other other trails,

3256
02:49:21,560 --> 02:49:24,640
important regional trails. Uh to that

3257
02:49:24,640 --> 02:49:26,280
end, we want to be a positive partner

3258
02:49:26,280 --> 02:49:27,720
for the city

3259
02:49:27,720 --> 02:49:30,040
uh in in creating this trail. We

3260
02:49:30,040 --> 02:49:32,080
understand that it's not going to be an

3261
02:49:32,080 --> 02:49:35,040
easy process uh that the trail may not

3262
02:49:35,040 --> 02:49:37,280
follow the canal exactly or we might

3263
02:49:37,280 --> 02:49:39,240
need some very creative interim

3264
02:49:39,240 --> 02:49:41,640
solutions. Uh we want you to know that

3265
02:49:41,640 --> 02:49:43,720
we're in this for the long haul. Uh

3266
02:49:43,720 --> 02:49:46,080
after all, the Murdock Canal required a

3267
02:49:46,080 --> 02:49:49,040
literal act of Congress and scrambling

3268
02:49:49,040 --> 02:49:51,600
for money during the recession. We did

3269
02:49:51,600 --> 02:49:53,280
hard things before and we can do it

3270
02:49:53,280 --> 02:49:54,760
again. Thank you.

3271
02:49:54,760 --> 02:49:58,190
>> Thank you.

3272
02:49:58,200 --> 02:50:01,320
Right. Um Joshua Moore. All right, and

3273
02:50:01,320 --> 02:50:05,440
after Mr. Moore, we have um Kim Poole.

3274
02:50:05,440 --> 02:50:07,040
Welcome.

3275
02:50:07,040 --> 02:50:10,040
>> Hey, I'm Joshua Moore and I'm a runner

3276
02:50:10,040 --> 02:50:12,440
for Lakeridge Junior High and I plan to

3277
02:50:12,440 --> 02:50:16,080
run for Mountain View Junior High or

3278
02:50:16,080 --> 02:50:18,160
Mountain View High School.

3279
02:50:18,160 --> 02:50:21,480
Um Orem is known around the state for

3280
02:50:21,480 --> 02:50:23,560
its distance running, but what we don't

3281
02:50:23,560 --> 02:50:25,360
have is a safe running trail that

3282
02:50:25,360 --> 02:50:27,600
connects different parts of the city. If

3283
02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:29,480
you're ever on the Murdock Canal Trail

3284
02:50:29,480 --> 02:50:31,600
any Saturday of the year, you'll see

3285
02:50:31,600 --> 02:50:34,000
NCAA champions

3286
02:50:34,000 --> 02:50:36,240
for cross country and distance teams

3287
02:50:36,240 --> 02:50:37,640
from BYU.

3288
02:50:37,640 --> 02:50:40,400
Conference champion teams from UVU and

3289
02:50:40,400 --> 02:50:42,040
state champion high school teams

3290
02:50:42,040 --> 02:50:43,120
training.

3291
02:50:43,120 --> 02:50:44,760
You will see Olympic medalist and

3292
02:50:44,760 --> 02:50:47,200
American marathon hold record holder

3293
02:50:47,200 --> 02:50:49,920
Conner Mantz and future Olympians like

3294
02:50:49,920 --> 02:50:51,560
Jane Hennegrin

3295
02:50:51,560 --> 02:50:53,600
um out training.

3296
02:50:53,600 --> 02:50:56,080
Orem is a distance running Mecca. Right

3297
02:50:56,080 --> 02:50:59,120
now high school teams and other runnings

3298
02:50:59,120 --> 02:51:02,520
uh city running other people's running

3299
02:51:02,520 --> 02:51:05,640
on city streets and sidewalks are often

3300
02:51:05,640 --> 02:51:07,640
risking their lives while crossing

3301
02:51:07,640 --> 02:51:10,920
streets and avoiding distracted drivers.

3302
02:51:10,920 --> 02:51:14,440
Orem can make um a safe place to run

3303
02:51:14,440 --> 02:51:17,000
across the city and we need to do it.

3304
02:51:17,000 --> 02:51:18,200
Thank you.

3305
02:51:18,200 --> 02:51:19,680
>> Thank you.

3306
02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:21,960
And best of luck in your running.

3307
02:51:21,960 --> 02:51:23,440
That's awesome.

3308
02:51:23,440 --> 02:51:26,800
All right. Um Kim Poold and after

3309
02:51:26,800 --> 02:51:32,910
um Ms. Poold, we have Laura Redford.

3310
02:51:32,920 --> 02:51:33,720
» Hello.

3311
02:51:33,720 --> 02:51:36,240
>> Hi. Thank you, Mayor and Councilman.

3312
02:51:36,240 --> 02:51:38,720
Uh my name is Kim Poold and I have lived

3313
02:51:38,720 --> 02:51:41,880
at 1458 North 75 East in Orem since

3314
02:51:41,880 --> 02:51:43,680
1991.

3315
02:51:43,680 --> 02:51:45,040
I've served on city and school

3316
02:51:45,040 --> 02:51:46,480
committees such as Neighborhoods in

3317
02:51:46,480 --> 02:51:49,360
Action, PTA, and CERT.

3318
02:51:49,360 --> 02:51:52,000
In 2021, the vacant house next door had

3319
02:51:52,000 --> 02:51:55,120
been an eyesore for 7 years with a fire

3320
02:51:55,120 --> 02:51:57,200
in the overgrown yard and break-ins

3321
02:51:57,200 --> 02:51:59,800
requiring city responses.

3322
02:51:59,800 --> 02:52:01,440
When the house went up for sale, I

3323
02:52:01,440 --> 02:52:03,400
reached out to developers Kim and Sheri

3324
02:52:03,400 --> 02:52:06,120
Best. I also called my daughter Katie,

3325
02:52:06,120 --> 02:52:09,760
who had been unable to afford a home.

3326
02:52:09,760 --> 02:52:11,600
We worked together on a plan to fit our

3327
02:52:11,600 --> 02:52:14,000
needs and improve the neighborhood. To

3328
02:52:14,000 --> 02:52:16,160
ensure our plan was legal, Katie

3329
02:52:16,160 --> 02:52:17,840
explained to the city that she would

3330
02:52:17,840 --> 02:52:19,360
rent the basement apartment to the

3331
02:52:19,360 --> 02:52:22,520
Bests, who would then operate an STR as

3332
02:52:22,520 --> 02:52:24,320
their own business.

3333
02:52:24,320 --> 02:52:26,080
The clerk admitted this was an unusual

3334
02:52:26,080 --> 02:52:28,280
arrangement and asked a supervisor for a

3335
02:52:28,280 --> 02:52:30,800
second opinion.

3336
02:52:30,800 --> 02:52:33,080
Only after both confirmed everything

3337
02:52:33,080 --> 02:52:34,920
about the arrangement was compliant with

3338
02:52:34,920 --> 02:52:36,800
city code, did we continue with the

3339
02:52:36,800 --> 02:52:38,440
plan.

3340
02:52:38,440 --> 02:52:40,160
The Best bought the home and rebuilt the

3341
02:52:40,160 --> 02:52:43,200
top floor, and Katie purchased it

3342
02:52:43,200 --> 02:52:44,880
Excuse me.

3343
02:52:44,880 --> 02:52:48,160
from them in March 2022. After Katie

3344
02:52:48,160 --> 02:52:50,360
moved in, my husband and I, using

3345
02:52:50,360 --> 02:52:52,699
retirement savings,

3346
02:52:52,699 --> 02:52:52,800
>> [clears throat]

3347
02:52:52,800 --> 02:52:54,920
>> financed the significant cost of the

3348
02:52:54,920 --> 02:52:56,920
basement remodel,

3349
02:52:56,920 --> 02:52:59,720
including an exterior backyard entrance

3350
02:52:59,720 --> 02:53:01,760
and wider driveway in keeping with city

3351
02:53:01,760 --> 02:53:02,920
code.

3352
02:53:02,920 --> 02:53:04,960
Imagine my confusion and frustration

3353
02:53:04,960 --> 02:53:06,720
when last year I found out that Orem

3354
02:53:06,720 --> 02:53:08,920
claimed there was a long-standing law

3355
02:53:08,920 --> 02:53:12,000
which prohibited STRs.

3356
02:53:12,000 --> 02:53:14,440
Not even city employees knew about that

3357
02:53:14,440 --> 02:53:16,000
law when we were asking for

3358
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:19,560
clarification, and now the law surfaces?

3359
02:53:19,560 --> 02:53:22,040
I expect better from my city government.

3360
02:53:22,040 --> 02:53:24,640
I reflected my opinion of the dismissive

3361
02:53:24,640 --> 02:53:26,600
attitude of current elected officials

3362
02:53:26,600 --> 02:53:29,080
during last November's elections. I hope

3363
02:53:29,080 --> 02:53:30,360
new leadership will be more

3364
02:53:30,360 --> 02:53:34,400
representative and less reactional.

3365
02:53:34,400 --> 02:53:36,320
These are some of the reasons

3366
02:53:36,320 --> 02:53:36,960
um

3367
02:53:36,960 --> 02:53:39,360
I support lawful short-term rentals in

3368
02:53:39,360 --> 02:53:40,520
Orem.

3369
02:53:40,520 --> 02:53:43,160
rentals and accessory apartments provide

3370
02:53:43,160 --> 02:53:45,000
needed income to many families,

3371
02:53:45,000 --> 02:53:46,840
especially with the drastic increase in

3372
02:53:46,840 --> 02:53:48,360
housing costs.

3373
02:53:48,360 --> 02:53:50,240
To suddenly change long-standing

3374
02:53:50,240 --> 02:53:52,480
licensure would result in significant

3375
02:53:52,480 --> 02:53:54,320
economic hardship.

3376
02:53:54,320 --> 02:53:56,040
Orem guests

3377
02:53:56,040 --> 02:53:58,480
Um this is a second one. Orem guests

3378
02:53:58,480 --> 02:54:00,880
rely on short-term rentals due to a

3379
02:54:00,880 --> 02:54:03,080
shortage of hotels in a city of nearly

3380
02:54:03,080 --> 02:54:05,560
100,000 people.

3381
02:54:05,560 --> 02:54:07,600
Short-term rentals are often a second

3382
02:54:07,600 --> 02:54:10,160
business often a family business, and I

3383
02:54:10,160 --> 02:54:13,680
thought Orem supported small businesses.

3384
02:54:13,680 --> 02:54:15,000
I have no complaints about the

3385
02:54:15,000 --> 02:54:17,200
short-term rentals nearby. Guests are

3386
02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:20,240
peace respectful owners

3387
02:54:20,240 --> 02:54:22,000
and try hard to avoid disturbing our

3388
02:54:22,000 --> 02:54:23,880
quiet neighborhood. And I would second

3389
02:54:23,880 --> 02:54:26,040
some of the other opinions that a lot of

3390
02:54:26,040 --> 02:54:28,960
the rentals in my neighborhood are much

3391
02:54:28,960 --> 02:54:31,200
less maintained than the short-term

3392
02:54:31,200 --> 02:54:32,280
rentals.

3393
02:54:32,280 --> 02:54:34,920
If existing Orem

3394
02:54:34,920 --> 02:54:37,080
laws for parking and noise are broken,

3395
02:54:37,080 --> 02:54:38,880
then those short-term rentals should be

3396
02:54:38,880 --> 02:54:41,240
fined and have licenses revoked. Why

3397
02:54:41,240 --> 02:54:44,600
punish those who do follow the rules?

3398
02:54:44,600 --> 02:54:45,240
>> I

3399
02:54:45,240 --> 02:54:46,640
have a All right, you If you want to

3400
02:54:46,640 --> 02:54:49,400
hand it over to um our city recorder,

3401
02:54:49,400 --> 02:54:51,720
we'll make sure we get a copy of that.

3402
02:54:51,720 --> 02:54:53,800
Thank you.

3403
02:54:53,800 --> 02:54:57,120
All right, Ms. Redford, and after

3404
02:54:57,120 --> 02:55:01,160
Ms. Redford, we have Sheryl Radmall.

3405
02:55:01,160 --> 02:55:01,680
Hello.

3406
02:55:01,680 --> 02:55:03,320
>> Hello.

3407
02:55:03,320 --> 02:55:05,240
Mayor and City Council, my name is Laura

3408
02:55:05,240 --> 02:55:07,400
Redford. My family and I live in the

3409
02:55:07,400 --> 02:55:10,160
Northridge neighborhood of Orem.

3410
02:55:10,160 --> 02:55:12,680
The Union Canal runs along our backyard

3411
02:55:12,680 --> 02:55:14,720
and side yard.

3412
02:55:14,720 --> 02:55:16,080
I'm here to let the council know that I

3413
02:55:16,080 --> 02:55:17,720
support turning the canal into a path

3414
02:55:17,720 --> 02:55:19,720
for walking and biking.

3415
02:55:19,720 --> 02:55:21,200
I have concerns about what will happen

3416
02:55:21,200 --> 02:55:22,520
to the canal

3417
02:55:22,520 --> 02:55:24,120
now that it won't run water, who will be

3418
02:55:24,120 --> 02:55:26,320
in charge of its upkeep.

3419
02:55:26,320 --> 02:55:28,280
It already causes problems with weeds

3420
02:55:28,280 --> 02:55:30,720
and thorny blackberry bushes that come

3421
02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:32,360
into our yard,

3422
02:55:32,360 --> 02:55:34,000
and I could see it collecting trash and

3423
02:55:34,000 --> 02:55:35,840
other debris.

3424
02:55:35,840 --> 02:55:37,520
As a homeowner, I would love to be able

3425
02:55:37,520 --> 02:55:39,720
to install a gate and access a path for

3426
02:55:39,720 --> 02:55:42,440
walks, biking, or even roller skating

3427
02:55:42,440 --> 02:55:44,280
with my kids.

3428
02:55:44,280 --> 02:55:45,960
I know there's a lot of property owners

3429
02:55:45,960 --> 02:55:47,560
along the canal,

3430
02:55:47,560 --> 02:55:50,280
um and it can be tricky to do this.

3431
02:55:50,280 --> 02:55:52,160
Nevertheless, I urge the city to take up

3432
02:55:52,160 --> 02:55:54,040
the project.

3433
02:55:54,040 --> 02:55:55,520
It will provide a safer route to

3434
02:55:55,520 --> 02:55:57,560
Timpanogos High School,

3435
02:55:57,560 --> 02:56:01,040
um and other schools along the canal.

3436
02:56:01,040 --> 02:56:02,720
I serve on the Transportation Advisory

3437
02:56:02,720 --> 02:56:04,680
Commission for the city,

3438
02:56:04,680 --> 02:56:07,760
and our uh city has made great strides

3439
02:56:07,760 --> 02:56:09,840
in making school crossings safer for

3440
02:56:09,840 --> 02:56:10,960
kids.

3441
02:56:10,960 --> 02:56:12,640
I really appreciate that effort, and I

3442
02:56:12,640 --> 02:56:14,240
feel like this would be an extension of

3443
02:56:14,240 --> 02:56:17,400
that in getting kids to school safely.

3444
02:56:17,400 --> 02:56:18,880
It would also be a terrific addition to

3445
02:56:18,880 --> 02:56:20,640
our active transportation options in

3446
02:56:20,640 --> 02:56:22,160
Orem.

3447
02:56:22,160 --> 02:56:23,600
Thank you for your work on behalf of

3448
02:56:23,600 --> 02:56:27,440
Orem residents. I appreciate your time.

3449
02:56:27,440 --> 02:56:28,800
I hope you will seriously consider

3450
02:56:28,800 --> 02:56:31,040
devoting city resource to this project

3451
02:56:31,040 --> 02:56:33,440
and like Zach, I am willing to help as

3452
02:56:33,440 --> 02:56:34,920
needed.

3453
02:56:34,920 --> 02:56:36,240
>> Thank you. And thank you for your

3454
02:56:36,240 --> 02:56:37,600
service on the transportation

3455
02:56:37,600 --> 02:56:39,120
commission.

3456
02:56:39,120 --> 02:56:41,520
All right, after Ms. Radmall, we have

3457
02:56:41,520 --> 02:56:47,070
Sarah Bateman.

3458
02:56:47,080 --> 02:56:48,840
» Hello, thank you for this opportunity. I

3459
02:56:48,840 --> 02:56:51,040
am Sheryl Radmall. I am a new member of

3460
02:56:51,040 --> 02:56:53,240
the neighborhood commission.

3461
02:56:53,240 --> 02:56:54,880
Um, I do have a few thoughts about

3462
02:56:54,880 --> 02:56:56,440
short-term rentals. I'd like to read a

3463
02:56:56,440 --> 02:56:59,120
statement my sister wrote. Uh, she could

3464
02:56:59,120 --> 02:57:00,440
not be here tonight cuz she had a

3465
02:57:00,440 --> 02:57:02,400
meeting at her school.

3466
02:57:02,400 --> 02:57:03,480
I live in the neighborhood in the

3467
02:57:03,480 --> 02:57:06,120
southwest in southwest Orem. It is

3468
02:57:06,120 --> 02:57:09,640
located just a few blocks from UVU.

3469
02:57:09,640 --> 02:57:11,440
I have lived in my home for the past 8

3470
02:57:11,440 --> 02:57:14,320
and 1/2 years. In late 2005, the home

3471
02:57:14,320 --> 02:57:16,040
next door to me was sold to someone who

3472
02:57:16,040 --> 02:57:17,600
lives in Hawaii.

3473
02:57:17,600 --> 02:57:20,920
In early 2000 and 2026, I realized the

3474
02:57:20,920 --> 02:57:22,280
home had been

3475
02:57:22,280 --> 02:57:25,120
opened as an Airbnb. It is a six-bedroom

3476
02:57:25,120 --> 02:57:27,320
that allows 17 guests to stay in the

3477
02:57:27,320 --> 02:57:28,280
home.

3478
02:57:28,280 --> 02:57:30,280
It has been filled at least 3 days each

3479
02:57:30,280 --> 02:57:32,360
week since opening.

3480
02:57:32,360 --> 02:57:33,880
Uh, because of the large number of

3481
02:57:33,880 --> 02:57:35,040
guests that are allowed, there are

3482
02:57:35,040 --> 02:57:37,640
always at least four vehicles associated

3483
02:57:37,640 --> 02:57:39,400
with the party staying in the home. The

3484
02:57:39,400 --> 02:57:41,200
driveway cannot accommodate that many

3485
02:57:41,200 --> 02:57:43,360
vehicles, so the additional cars must

3486
02:57:43,360 --> 02:57:45,680
park on the street. About a block and a

3487
02:57:45,680 --> 02:57:48,040
half down the street is another Airbnb.

3488
02:57:48,040 --> 02:57:49,960
It is a home with nine bedrooms that

3489
02:57:49,960 --> 02:57:52,400
allows 30 guests to stay.

3490
02:57:52,400 --> 02:57:53,480
I know of [snorts] another home on the

3491
02:57:53,480 --> 02:57:55,080
street behind me that is using their

3492
02:57:55,080 --> 02:57:57,480
basement apartment as an Airbnb. So,

3493
02:57:57,480 --> 02:57:59,040
within a block of her home, there are

3494
02:57:59,040 --> 02:58:00,880
three Airbnbs. Two of them are renting

3495
02:58:00,880 --> 02:58:02,960
to large numbers of people. So, I'm

3496
02:58:02,960 --> 02:58:05,160
afraid her experience is very different

3497
02:58:05,160 --> 02:58:07,160
from the owners here that are speaking

3498
02:58:07,160 --> 02:58:08,120
and

3499
02:58:08,120 --> 02:58:09,800
um, and like I said, the house next door

3500
02:58:09,800 --> 02:58:11,240
to her

3501
02:58:11,240 --> 02:58:13,000
is um,

3502
02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:15,440
the owners aren't even living in state.

3503
02:58:15,440 --> 02:58:17,720
Uh, so I have a couple articles here uh,

3504
02:58:17,720 --> 02:58:19,840
that I want to read real quickly from.

3505
02:58:19,840 --> 02:58:22,000
"Airbnb began as a friendly alternative

3506
02:58:22,000 --> 02:58:24,120
to hotels, an idea rooted in connection

3507
02:58:24,120 --> 02:58:26,240
and authenticity, but over the past

3508
02:58:26,240 --> 02:58:28,080
decade it has morphed into a powerful

3509
02:58:28,080 --> 02:58:30,320
force in global real estate, one that is

3510
02:58:30,320 --> 02:58:32,000
now blamed for distorting housing

3511
02:58:32,000 --> 02:58:34,760
markets, accelerating gentrification,

3512
02:58:34,760 --> 02:58:36,440
and altering the social fabric of

3513
02:58:36,440 --> 02:58:38,960
cities. While travelers may see see

3514
02:58:38,960 --> 02:58:40,840
convenience and charm, many [snorts]

3515
02:58:40,840 --> 02:58:42,840
locals see displacement, unaffordable

3516
02:58:42,840 --> 02:58:45,000
rents, and communities hollowed out by

3517
02:58:45,000 --> 02:58:47,640
overtourism. Italy, Croatia, New York

3518
02:58:47,640 --> 02:58:49,760
City, Spain, all popular tourism

3519
02:58:49,760 --> 02:58:52,120
destina- destinations with severe

3520
02:58:52,120 --> 02:58:54,200
housing challenges have recently

3521
02:58:54,200 --> 02:58:57,200
launched crackdowns on holiday rentals.

3522
02:58:57,200 --> 02:58:58,880
And this year Montreal is set to

3523
02:58:58,880 --> 02:59:00,600
implement one of the strictest laws

3524
02:59:00,600 --> 02:59:02,080
against short-term rentals in the

3525
02:59:02,080 --> 02:59:03,160
world."

3526
02:59:03,160 --> 02:59:04,760
So, my time's running out. I can leave

3527
02:59:04,760 --> 02:59:06,760
this article. This article is from the

3528
02:59:06,760 --> 02:59:08,640
Harvard Business Review. It's written by

3529
02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:11,280
three professors. Um, it has a lot of

3530
02:59:11,280 --> 02:59:13,280
controls, a lot of kind of technical

3531
02:59:13,280 --> 02:59:15,520
talk that really, basically, talking

3532
02:59:15,520 --> 02:59:18,880
about the negative impact economically

3533
02:59:18,880 --> 02:59:21,160
for housing and for rentals from

3534
02:59:21,160 --> 02:59:22,960
short-term rentals. So, I'll leave these

3535
02:59:22,960 --> 02:59:24,920
articles. I can email you copies of

3536
02:59:24,920 --> 02:59:25,800
them.

3537
02:59:25,800 --> 02:59:28,280
Thank you so much for your time.

3538
02:59:28,280 --> 02:59:30,960
>> Thank you. Appreciate the information.

3539
02:59:30,960 --> 02:59:33,240
Right. Thank you. Um, Ms. Bateman, and

3540
02:59:33,240 --> 02:59:40,040
then after Ms. Bateman, we have Brendan Beal.

3541
02:59:40,040 --> 02:59:41,600
So, welcome.

3542
02:59:41,600 --> 02:59:43,680
>> Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name

3543
02:59:43,680 --> 02:59:46,240
is Sarah Bateman, and, uh, this year

3544
02:59:46,240 --> 02:59:48,200
marks 25 years that I've lived in the

3545
02:59:48,200 --> 02:59:50,560
Geneva neighborhood, so

3546
02:59:50,560 --> 02:59:52,280
thank you for letting us speak tonight.

3547
02:59:52,280 --> 02:59:55,040
I am here to speak, uh, to the possible

3548
02:59:55,040 --> 02:59:57,600
conversion by the city of the defunct

3549
02:59:57,600 --> 03:00:00,040
North Union Canal into a walking and

3550
03:00:00,040 --> 03:00:02,760
biking trail. I love the idea of

3551
03:00:02,760 --> 03:00:04,960
investing in spaces that encourage an

3552
03:00:04,960 --> 03:00:07,360
active lifestyle and wholesome

3553
03:00:07,360 --> 03:00:09,840
recreation for families.

3554
03:00:09,840 --> 03:00:12,920
These public spaces can also contribute

3555
03:00:12,920 --> 03:00:14,920
to improved social health of our

3556
03:00:14,920 --> 03:00:16,960
community members, something that

3557
03:00:16,960 --> 03:00:18,880
significantly factors into quality of

3558
03:00:18,880 --> 03:00:21,560
life and longevity.

3559
03:00:21,560 --> 03:00:24,120
I do not live along the canal,

3560
03:00:24,120 --> 03:00:26,040
um, but I understand that some neighbors

3561
03:00:26,040 --> 03:00:29,120
are eagerly supporting the idea and some

3562
03:00:29,120 --> 03:00:30,640
do not.

3563
03:00:30,640 --> 03:00:32,640
And that some sections of the canal are

3564
03:00:32,640 --> 03:00:34,640
more conducive to a safe conversion and

3565
03:00:34,640 --> 03:00:35,720
others

3566
03:00:35,720 --> 03:00:37,320
than others.

3567
03:00:37,320 --> 03:00:39,800
So, should the city decide to explore

3568
03:00:39,800 --> 03:00:42,320
this option, I encourage

3569
03:00:42,320 --> 03:00:44,480
robust outreach and good faith efforts

3570
03:00:44,480 --> 03:00:46,200
to hear from the neighbors and

3571
03:00:46,200 --> 03:00:49,040
facilitate creative problem-solving for

3572
03:00:49,040 --> 03:00:51,200
improved buy-in to whichever choice the

3573
03:00:51,200 --> 03:00:54,960
city makes. Of all the wonderful assets

3574
03:00:54,960 --> 03:00:58,200
Orem has to offer, working together as

3575
03:00:58,200 --> 03:01:00,080
neighbors should be a signature of who

3576
03:01:00,080 --> 03:01:02,000
we are. Thank you.

3577
03:01:02,000 --> 03:01:03,840
>> Thank you.

3578
03:01:03,840 --> 03:01:08,560
All right. Mr. Beal, Brendan Beal.

3579
03:01:08,560 --> 03:01:12,120
Right. No, I guess not here.

3580
03:01:12,120 --> 03:01:14,160
And Derek?

3581
03:01:14,160 --> 03:01:17,280
Is there a Derek here?

3582
03:01:17,280 --> 03:01:19,080
Okay.

3583
03:01:19,080 --> 03:01:22,080
And our final person final guest this

3584
03:01:22,080 --> 03:01:24,120
evening is Vardon Hatfield. If you'd

3585
03:01:24,120 --> 03:01:25,570
like to come up.

3586
03:01:25,570 --> 03:01:26,440
>> [sighs]

3587
03:01:26,440 --> 03:01:28,080
>> Thank you.

3588
03:01:28,080 --> 03:01:29,160
>> Hi.

3589
03:01:29,160 --> 03:01:31,080
I'm Vardon and I've lived in Orem,

3590
03:01:31,080 --> 03:01:34,080
northeast Orem, for about 27 years now

3591
03:01:34,080 --> 03:01:35,440
and love it.

3592
03:01:35,440 --> 03:01:38,760
Um, I'm an avid biker and a vice chair

3593
03:01:38,760 --> 03:01:41,480
of the Utah Valley Trails Alliance,

3594
03:01:41,480 --> 03:01:43,480
uh, where we now have, thanks to Orem

3595
03:01:43,480 --> 03:01:45,160
City,

3596
03:01:45,160 --> 03:01:47,200
a little over a million dollars of

3597
03:01:47,200 --> 03:01:49,160
trails under construction this summer

3598
03:01:49,160 --> 03:01:50,560
and next summer.

3599
03:01:50,560 --> 03:01:53,920
Um, that's a result of the 500,000 or

3600
03:01:53,920 --> 03:01:55,440
more that Orem is spending on the

3601
03:01:55,440 --> 03:01:57,560
Timpanogos Foothills Trail.

3602
03:01:57,560 --> 03:02:00,520
We were able to use that as a match for

3603
03:02:00,520 --> 03:02:02,280
Utah Valley,

3604
03:02:02,280 --> 03:02:04,600
uh, for a Utah State outdoor recreation

3605
03:02:04,600 --> 03:02:06,560
grant. So,

3606
03:02:06,560 --> 03:02:09,200
um, we're we're avid connector. I also

3607
03:02:09,200 --> 03:02:11,120
have a son who had a brain injury 3

3608
03:02:11,120 --> 03:02:12,840
years ago and has difficulty with

3609
03:02:12,840 --> 03:02:14,120
vision.

3610
03:02:14,120 --> 03:02:16,840
And he is able to he loves that Murdock

3611
03:02:16,840 --> 03:02:19,360
Canal Trail. He's able to bike on that

3612
03:02:19,360 --> 03:02:21,960
and not worry so much about traffic or

3613
03:02:21,960 --> 03:02:23,680
stoplights.

3614
03:02:23,680 --> 03:02:24,800
And

3615
03:02:24,800 --> 03:02:27,560
my daughter and I decided to try a

3616
03:02:27,560 --> 03:02:31,280
100-mile bike ride last last weekend.

3617
03:02:31,280 --> 03:02:33,280
And we were able to ride from our house

3618
03:02:33,280 --> 03:02:34,960
in Northeast Orem along the Murdock

3619
03:02:34,960 --> 03:02:37,360
Canal Trail, connect with Jordan River

3620
03:02:37,360 --> 03:02:40,920
all the way up to I-80 on on dedicated

3621
03:02:40,920 --> 03:02:42,200
trails.

3622
03:02:42,200 --> 03:02:45,320
But the but the challenge is right now,

3623
03:02:45,320 --> 03:02:47,000
we don't have a good connection through

3624
03:02:47,000 --> 03:02:49,120
the central part of Orem.

3625
03:02:49,120 --> 03:02:50,960
And the North Union Canal would be a

3626
03:02:50,960 --> 03:02:52,840
wonderful way to provide that to get

3627
03:02:52,840 --> 03:02:55,000
right through the center of Orem and

3628
03:02:55,000 --> 03:02:57,480
even the the backside on the the bottom

3629
03:02:57,480 --> 03:03:00,440
part of Palisade Drive, that hill could

3630
03:03:00,440 --> 03:03:03,520
connect us right up to the Provo River

3631
03:03:03,520 --> 03:03:06,200
Trail as well. So, I'm very much in

3632
03:03:06,200 --> 03:03:08,360
support of the project and and feel it

3633
03:03:08,360 --> 03:03:15,760
would be a wise use of of resources. The per capita cost of the Murdock Canal

3634
03:03:15,760 --> 03:03:18,400
Trail surely by now is minimal.

3635
03:03:18,400 --> 03:03:21,000
And I think we'd see even even more use

3636
03:03:21,000 --> 03:03:23,400
on the North Union Canal Trail. So,

3637
03:03:23,400 --> 03:03:26,160
thank you for your support of biking and

3638
03:03:26,160 --> 03:03:29,480
outdoor recreation and I I hope we find

3639
03:03:29,480 --> 03:03:32,160
more of that with this project. Thanks.

3640
03:03:32,160 --> 03:03:34,360
>> All right. Thank you.

3641
03:03:34,360 --> 03:03:35,120
All right.

3642
03:03:35,120 --> 03:03:36,120
>> Um

3643
03:03:36,120 --> 03:03:41,640
esteemed staff, who who can I ask who can answer questions just very basic

3644
03:03:41,640 --> 03:03:43,776
about where we are with the canal,

3645
03:03:43,776 --> 03:03:43,880
>> [gasps]

3646
03:03:43,880 --> 03:03:46,280
>> uh the project and some maybe a couple

3647
03:03:46,280 --> 03:03:48,560
of the challenges that we face.

3648
03:03:48,560 --> 03:03:49,960
One of the challenges we face, I think,

3649
03:03:49,960 --> 03:03:52,360
is we don't own it.

3650
03:03:52,360 --> 03:03:55,200
So, just a minor one, but anyway. I

3651
03:03:55,200 --> 03:03:56,200
don't know who who would

3652
03:03:56,200 --> 03:03:59,040
>> Mayor and council, I I can maybe give a

3653
03:03:59,040 --> 03:04:00,840
uh general overview

3654
03:04:00,840 --> 03:04:03,880
and um and Gary, of course can can fill

3655
03:04:03,880 --> 03:04:05,120
in some

3656
03:04:05,120 --> 03:04:08,120
a little bit more details but we did

3657
03:04:08,120 --> 03:04:12,280
apply for a grant to help us study this

3658
03:04:12,280 --> 03:04:14,560
turning the the canal abandonment into a

3659
03:04:14,560 --> 03:04:17,360
potential trail. Part of that study

3660
03:04:17,360 --> 03:04:20,440
effort would include communication and

3661
03:04:20,440 --> 03:04:23,920
education with adjacent property owners.

3662
03:04:23,920 --> 03:04:28,720
And then since then we have also engaged

3663
03:04:28,720 --> 03:04:31,520
with state legislators primarily

3664
03:04:31,520 --> 03:04:33,480
representative Nelson Abbott to try to

3665
03:04:33,480 --> 03:04:36,640
see if there would be sort of state

3666
03:04:36,640 --> 03:04:39,440
assistance and solutions and legislation

3667
03:04:39,440 --> 03:04:42,440
even. Some

3668
03:04:42,440 --> 03:04:45,200
of that has had limited success but it's

3669
03:04:45,200 --> 03:04:47,640
nice to know that we've got advocates on

3670
03:04:47,640 --> 03:04:48,960
our side

3671
03:04:48,960 --> 03:04:50,760
up with the state.

3672
03:04:50,760 --> 03:04:52,680
In terms of next steps

3673
03:04:52,680 --> 03:04:54,600
we we need to continue to build

3674
03:04:54,600 --> 03:04:58,400
partnerships with like MAG who came MAG

3675
03:04:58,400 --> 03:04:59,720
representatives who Mountain Lion

3676
03:04:59,720 --> 03:05:01,840
Association of Governments came to our

3677
03:05:01,840 --> 03:05:04,560
work session today and then Provo

3678
03:05:04,560 --> 03:05:08,560
the east side of this bench uh

3679
03:05:08,560 --> 03:05:10,760
of this canal right-of-way

3680
03:05:10,760 --> 03:05:13,360
is is actually

3681
03:05:13,360 --> 03:05:16,080
consists of our border with Provo City

3682
03:05:16,080 --> 03:05:17,800
and so if we can

3683
03:05:17,800 --> 03:05:19,520
connect with them and get Provo City

3684
03:05:19,520 --> 03:05:21,680
support then I think that would give us

3685
03:05:21,680 --> 03:05:25,800
a real leg up in in getting to a

3686
03:05:25,800 --> 03:05:27,680
solution and getting to a trail for for

3687
03:05:27,680 --> 03:05:29,360
this project.

3688
03:05:29,360 --> 03:05:32,440
If we could just snap our fingers and

3689
03:05:32,440 --> 03:05:35,000
you know have it fully developed and

3690
03:05:35,000 --> 03:05:38,000
funded and a trail I think we could

3691
03:05:38,000 --> 03:05:41,440
develop really quick and easy you know

3692
03:05:41,440 --> 03:05:43,280
general support

3693
03:05:43,280 --> 03:05:45,840
but there is some distance between where

3694
03:05:45,840 --> 03:05:48,760
we're at today and getting to that point

3695
03:05:48,760 --> 03:05:50,920
but that doesn't mean we won't continue

3696
03:05:50,920 --> 03:05:53,440
to to try and and see what we can do.

3697
03:05:53,440 --> 03:05:55,520
I'm very encouraged by the public

3698
03:05:55,520 --> 03:05:58,440
feedback we've gotten here tonight and

3699
03:05:58,440 --> 03:06:01,080
I'm very hopeful that that is indicative

3700
03:06:01,080 --> 03:06:02,840
of

3701
03:06:02,840 --> 03:06:05,080
our Orem population generally.

3702
03:06:05,080 --> 03:06:07,480
We we have heard that there are some

3703
03:06:07,480 --> 03:06:09,320
potential

3704
03:06:09,320 --> 03:06:11,680
residents who live immediately adjacent

3705
03:06:11,680 --> 03:06:13,760
at least in some portions of the right

3706
03:06:13,760 --> 03:06:15,920
of way that that may have some concerns

3707
03:06:15,920 --> 03:06:17,880
and so we'll just need to communicate

3708
03:06:17,880 --> 03:06:19,960
and collaborate with them and and see if

3709
03:06:19,960 --> 03:06:22,840
there is a solution that we can get to.

3710
03:06:22,840 --> 03:06:24,400
If I was a betting person, I think we

3711
03:06:24,400 --> 03:06:26,840
can get to some solutions along portions

3712
03:06:26,840 --> 03:06:28,280
of the corridor

3713
03:06:28,280 --> 03:06:33,080
at the very least, but again, we'll do whatever we can.

3714
03:06:33,080 --> 03:06:34,680
Gary, anything else you would add to

3715
03:06:34,680 --> 03:06:36,040
that?

3716
03:06:36,040 --> 03:06:40,190
>> What he said.

3717
03:06:40,200 --> 03:06:42,600
» All right, thank you. Thank you to all

3718
03:06:42,600 --> 03:06:44,000
who have come and spoken on these

3719
03:06:44,000 --> 03:06:46,760
important issues. Appreciate you taking

3720
03:06:46,760 --> 03:06:49,000
the time to be here.

3721
03:06:49,000 --> 03:06:50,400
We're going to go ahead and move to our

3722
03:06:50,400 --> 03:06:52,120
scheduled items.

3723
03:06:52,120 --> 03:06:53,640
And we have two.

3724
03:06:53,640 --> 03:06:59,080
And the first one is about item 10.1.

3725
03:06:59,080 --> 03:07:00,880
Appointments. Appointments to the

3726
03:07:00,880 --> 03:07:03,880
Natural Resources Advisory Commission.

3727
03:07:03,880 --> 03:07:06,120
And so

3728
03:07:06,120 --> 03:07:09,960
the the way that our our city code reads

3729
03:07:09,960 --> 03:07:13,400
is that appointments to our commissions,

3730
03:07:13,400 --> 03:07:18,720
the mayor makes a recommendation and to make the appointments with the advice

3731
03:07:18,720 --> 03:07:21,160
and consent of the city council.

3732
03:07:21,160 --> 03:07:22,480
So, I'm actually going to break this

3733
03:07:22,480 --> 03:07:24,560
down into several different steps. We're

3734
03:07:24,560 --> 03:07:26,360
going to vote on each of these

3735
03:07:26,360 --> 03:07:27,880
individuals

3736
03:07:27,880 --> 03:07:29,800
individually rather than as a whole

3737
03:07:29,800 --> 03:07:31,480
group.

3738
03:07:31,480 --> 03:07:33,280
So, the first name I would like to

3739
03:07:33,280 --> 03:07:36,640
present to the council for the Natural

3740
03:07:36,640 --> 03:07:38,720
Resources Advisory Commission is Robert

3741
03:07:38,720 --> 03:07:42,400
McFadden. Is Mr. McFadden here?

3742
03:07:42,400 --> 03:07:44,640
All right, thank you. Thanks for coming

3743
03:07:44,640 --> 03:07:46,400
this evening.

3744
03:07:46,400 --> 03:07:49,000
And so I

3745
03:07:49,000 --> 03:07:52,440
open it up for discussion or motion.

3746
03:07:52,440 --> 03:07:56,040
Uh to to appoint Mr. McFadden to the

3747
03:07:56,040 --> 03:07:59,480
Natural Resources Advisory Commission.

3748
03:07:59,480 --> 03:08:02,160
>> I motion to appoint Robert McFadden to

3749
03:08:02,160 --> 03:08:03,720
our Natural Resources Commission. He

3750
03:08:03,720 --> 03:08:05,360
served on Beautification Commission

3751
03:08:05,360 --> 03:08:08,080
previously and we're going to be happy

3752
03:08:08,080 --> 03:08:09,520
to have him in Natural Resources if it's

3753
03:08:09,520 --> 03:08:10,600
approved.

3754
03:08:10,600 --> 03:08:11,480
>> I second that.

3755
03:08:11,480 --> 03:08:12,760
>> All right, thank you. We have a motion

3756
03:08:12,760 --> 03:08:15,240
and a second. All right, we'll just

3757
03:08:15,240 --> 03:08:17,000
follow down this row. Council member

3758
03:08:17,000 --> 03:08:18,320
Millett, how would you vote?

3759
03:08:18,320 --> 03:08:26,040
>> I.

3760
03:08:26,040 --> 03:08:28,600
>> All right, motion carries. Thank you and

3761
03:08:28,600 --> 03:08:29,800
welcome.

3762
03:08:29,800 --> 03:08:31,800
to the Natural Resources

3763
03:08:31,800 --> 03:08:33,760
Commission. We look forward to your

3764
03:08:33,760 --> 03:08:36,800
service and your expertise.

3765
03:08:36,800 --> 03:08:39,520
Right, the second second name

3766
03:08:39,520 --> 03:08:42,520
being put forth this evening is to

3767
03:08:42,520 --> 03:08:45,160
appoint Tara Bishop to the Natural

3768
03:08:45,160 --> 03:08:48,720
Resources Advisory Commission.

3769
03:08:48,720 --> 03:08:49,960
So,

3770
03:08:49,960 --> 03:08:51,520
I would

3771
03:08:51,520 --> 03:08:54,280
be open to discussion or motion,

3772
03:08:54,280 --> 03:08:56,280
whatever the council

3773
03:08:56,280 --> 03:08:57,640
>> Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we

3774
03:08:57,640 --> 03:08:59,680
table the appointment of Tara Bishop for

3775
03:08:59,680 --> 03:09:02,360
the Natural Resources Commission.

3776
03:09:02,360 --> 03:09:05,120
>> All right, we have a motion.

3777
03:09:05,120 --> 03:09:08,030
Is there a second?

3778
03:09:08,040 --> 03:09:09,840
» I'll second that.

3779
03:09:09,840 --> 03:09:11,880
>> All right, we have a motion and a second

3780
03:09:11,880 --> 03:09:14,880
to table the nomination of table of Tara

3781
03:09:14,880 --> 03:09:16,520
Bishop

3782
03:09:16,520 --> 03:09:18,480
to the Natural Resources Advisory

3783
03:09:18,480 --> 03:09:20,680
Commission.

3784
03:09:20,680 --> 03:09:22,360
All right, we'll go ahead and start with

3785
03:09:22,360 --> 03:09:25,360
you Council member Meacham.

3786
03:09:25,360 --> 03:09:26,480
>> Nay.

3787
03:09:26,480 --> 03:09:27,360
>> Put nay.

3788
03:09:27,360 --> 03:09:28,560
>> Nay.

3789
03:09:28,560 --> 03:09:30,040
>> I.

3790
03:09:30,040 --> 03:09:31,160
>> Nay.

3791
03:09:31,160 --> 03:09:34,160
>> I.

3792
03:09:34,160 --> 03:09:37,840
>> Oh, so it was a 4-3. Is that what we

3793
03:09:37,840 --> 03:09:39,360
have? Okay.

3794
03:09:39,360 --> 03:09:40,800
So,

3795
03:09:40,800 --> 03:09:45,630
the motion failed to pass.

3796
03:09:45,640 --> 03:09:47,200
» I motion to appoint Tara Bishop to the

3797
03:09:47,200 --> 03:09:49,600
Natural Resources Commission.

3798
03:09:49,600 --> 03:09:50,360
>> I second it.

3799
03:09:50,360 --> 03:09:52,480
>> Okay, we have a motion and a second to

3800
03:09:52,480 --> 03:09:55,120
appoint Tara Bishop to the Natural

3801
03:09:55,120 --> 03:09:58,000
Resources Advisory Commission.

3802
03:09:58,000 --> 03:09:59,400
And I'll start off and I'll vote I.

3803
03:09:59,400 --> 03:10:00,640
>> Oh, Mayor, I'd like to open that for

3804
03:10:00,640 --> 03:10:01,200
discussion.

3805
03:10:01,200 --> 03:10:02,640
>> Oh, well, I'm I'm sorry. Yes, any

3806
03:10:02,640 --> 03:10:04,120
discussion?

3807
03:10:04,120 --> 03:10:06,120
>> I have a comment I'd like to make.

3808
03:10:06,120 --> 03:10:07,800
Um, Mayor and colleagues, I want to

3809
03:10:07,800 --> 03:10:10,840
begin by saying I appreciate everyone

3810
03:10:10,840 --> 03:10:12,640
who is willing to volunteer their time

3811
03:10:12,640 --> 03:10:14,880
to serve on our boards and commissions.

3812
03:10:14,880 --> 03:10:17,320
These volunteers play an important role

3813
03:10:17,320 --> 03:10:19,600
in advising the council, interacting

3814
03:10:19,600 --> 03:10:21,760
with residents, and helping our city

3815
03:10:21,760 --> 03:10:23,320
move forward.

3816
03:10:23,320 --> 03:10:25,320
Our boards and commissions are important

3817
03:10:25,320 --> 03:10:29,560
extensions of the work of this council.

3818
03:10:29,560 --> 03:10:31,800
The individuals who serve there

3819
03:10:31,800 --> 03:10:35,800
represent the civic culture of Orem.

3820
03:10:35,800 --> 03:10:38,240
And because of that, the standard of

3821
03:10:38,240 --> 03:10:40,600
respectful engagement and civil

3822
03:10:40,600 --> 03:10:43,200
discourse matters.

3823
03:10:43,200 --> 03:10:45,160
Less than 5 months ago, during a

3824
03:10:45,160 --> 03:10:48,160
candidate debate at UVU, an incident

3825
03:10:48,160 --> 03:10:50,360
occurred involving the proposed

3826
03:10:50,360 --> 03:10:51,880
appointee.

3827
03:10:51,880 --> 03:10:54,280
While seated in the front row, there

3828
03:10:54,280 --> 03:10:57,240
were were repeated visible reactions

3829
03:10:57,240 --> 03:10:59,680
during my responses to the questions.

3830
03:10:59,680 --> 03:11:02,400
And one And at one point, a verbal

3831
03:11:02,400 --> 03:11:05,280
interruption calling out, "That's not

3832
03:11:05,280 --> 03:11:06,480
true."

3833
03:11:06,480 --> 03:11:09,360
which disrupted the debate and required

3834
03:11:09,360 --> 03:11:11,480
moderator intervention to restore

3835
03:11:11,480 --> 03:11:13,000
decorum.

3836
03:11:13,000 --> 03:11:15,080
This exchange is also visible in the

3837
03:11:15,080 --> 03:11:17,560
publicly available recording of that

3838
03:11:17,560 --> 03:11:19,160
debate.

3839
03:11:19,160 --> 03:11:22,360
Disagreement is a healthy and necessary

3840
03:11:22,360 --> 03:11:24,920
part of civic life.

3841
03:11:24,920 --> 03:11:28,000
We should welcome differing viewpoints.

3842
03:11:28,000 --> 03:11:30,360
But in formal public settings,

3843
03:11:30,360 --> 03:11:34,160
there is also an expectation of decorum

3844
03:11:34,160 --> 03:11:37,720
and respect so that dialogue can remain

3845
03:11:37,720 --> 03:11:39,600
constructive.

3846
03:11:39,600 --> 03:11:40,840
This is not about a personal

3847
03:11:40,840 --> 03:11:44,040
disagreement or political differences.

3848
03:11:44,040 --> 03:11:46,720
It is about maintaining a culture of

3849
03:11:46,720 --> 03:11:48,440
professionalism,

3850
03:11:48,440 --> 03:11:52,240
respect, and constructive participation

3851
03:11:52,240 --> 03:11:54,360
in the work of our city.

3852
03:11:54,360 --> 03:11:57,000
For me, when we make appointments to our

3853
03:11:57,000 --> 03:11:58,800
boards and commissions,

3854
03:11:58,800 --> 03:12:02,720
we should apply a consistent expectation

3855
03:12:02,720 --> 03:12:05,200
that those representing the city

3856
03:12:05,200 --> 03:12:07,840
conduct themselves respectfully in

3857
03:12:07,840 --> 03:12:09,720
public forums.

3858
03:12:09,720 --> 03:12:12,320
I believe it's important that we apply

3859
03:12:12,320 --> 03:12:15,000
the same expectations of respectful

3860
03:12:15,000 --> 03:12:18,040
public conduct conduct to everyone we

3861
03:12:18,040 --> 03:12:20,520
appoint to represent our city.

3862
03:12:20,520 --> 03:12:21,920
When we appoint someone to a city

3863
03:12:21,920 --> 03:12:23,800
commission, we are not only selecting

3864
03:12:23,800 --> 03:12:25,760
someone with an interest in the subject

3865
03:12:25,760 --> 03:12:26,880
area,

3866
03:12:26,880 --> 03:12:28,720
we are selecting someone who will

3867
03:12:28,720 --> 03:12:31,520
represent Orem in public meetings and in

3868
03:12:31,520 --> 03:12:35,480
interactions with residents, staff, and

3869
03:12:35,480 --> 03:12:37,520
city leadership.

3870
03:12:37,520 --> 03:12:40,160
In my view, it would be more appropriate

3871
03:12:40,160 --> 03:12:41,680
at this time to consider other

3872
03:12:41,680 --> 03:12:44,440
applicants who demonstrate the standard

3873
03:12:44,440 --> 03:12:47,280
of respectful public engagement that we

3874
03:12:47,280 --> 03:12:49,600
hope to see from those representing our

3875
03:12:49,600 --> 03:12:50,800
city.

3876
03:12:50,800 --> 03:12:52,720
Therefore, I will not be supporting this

3877
03:12:52,720 --> 03:12:54,600
appointment tonight.

3878
03:12:54,600 --> 03:12:57,520
I hope my colleagues will join with me

3879
03:12:57,520 --> 03:13:01,760
in upholding a standard of civility,

3880
03:13:01,760 --> 03:13:03,240
respect,

3881
03:13:03,240 --> 03:13:06,080
and constructive public engagement for

3882
03:13:06,080 --> 03:13:08,880
those who represent the city of Orem on

3883
03:13:08,880 --> 03:13:10,960
our boards and commissions. Thank you,

3884
03:13:10,960 --> 03:13:12,680
Mayor.

3885
03:13:12,680 --> 03:13:15,320
>> Thank you. I appreciate your appreciate

3886
03:13:15,320 --> 03:13:17,200
your thoughts and your comments on that.

3887
03:13:17,200 --> 03:13:19,200
Thank you. Certainly, I'm sorry. I I

3888
03:13:19,200 --> 03:13:20,600
didn't I neglected to ask any more

3889
03:13:20,600 --> 03:13:21,960
discussion

3890
03:13:21,960 --> 03:13:24,040
on on this?

3891
03:13:24,040 --> 03:13:25,280
Okay.

3892
03:13:25,280 --> 03:13:27,320
Mr. Uh Councilmember Meekam.

3893
03:13:27,320 --> 03:13:29,480
>> Yeah, I I do appreciate uh those

3894
03:13:29,480 --> 03:13:31,120
thoughts um

3895
03:13:31,120 --> 03:13:33,640
uh that we just heard and also support

3896
03:13:33,640 --> 03:13:36,000
the idea that uh anyone who is serving

3897
03:13:36,000 --> 03:13:38,440
in a public capacity uh has an

3898
03:13:38,440 --> 03:13:40,920
obligation to treat one another with

3899
03:13:40,920 --> 03:13:43,560
respect and with uh with grace. And I

3900
03:13:43,560 --> 03:13:44,640
hope that that's something that we can

3901
03:13:44,640 --> 03:13:46,840
role model as a as a council as we make

3902
03:13:46,840 --> 03:13:48,120
these appointments.

3903
03:13:48,120 --> 03:13:50,320
Um I'm I'm grateful for those who are

3904
03:13:50,320 --> 03:13:53,040
willing to serve. And uh I hope that we

3905
03:13:53,040 --> 03:13:54,920
will hold those that we do appoint

3906
03:13:54,920 --> 03:13:58,480
tonight to that standard. Thank you.

3907
03:13:58,480 --> 03:14:02,070
>> Thank you. Anybody else?

3908
03:14:02,080 --> 03:14:05,440
I just wanted just say I I echo what um

3909
03:14:05,440 --> 03:14:08,400
Councilman Vermillion says. I I expect

3910
03:14:08,400 --> 03:14:11,080
in the capacity as commissioners and

3911
03:14:11,080 --> 03:14:13,800
representatives of the city that they

3912
03:14:13,800 --> 03:14:16,280
that those we do appoint uphold a

3913
03:14:16,280 --> 03:14:19,800
standard of respect and dignity and and

3914
03:14:19,800 --> 03:14:22,080
good behavior.

3915
03:14:22,080 --> 03:14:24,600
All right. On that note

3916
03:14:24,600 --> 03:14:26,880
if there's no other discussion

3917
03:14:26,880 --> 03:14:28,480
um I guess it's my turn to start off.

3918
03:14:28,480 --> 03:14:30,270
I'm going to vote I.

3919
03:14:30,270 --> 03:14:31,800
>> [gasps]

3920
03:14:31,800 --> 03:14:33,120
>> I.

3921
03:14:33,120 --> 03:14:34,680
>> Nay.

3922
03:14:34,680 --> 03:14:35,760
>> I.

3923
03:14:35,760 --> 03:14:38,520
>> Nay.

3924
03:14:38,520 --> 03:14:39,560
>> I.

3925
03:14:39,560 --> 03:14:41,520
>> All right. Motion carries um four to

3926
03:14:41,520 --> 03:14:44,520
three. Thank you.

3927
03:14:44,520 --> 03:14:46,360
All right. The next item on the agenda

3928
03:14:46,360 --> 03:14:48,200
are appointments to the planning

3929
03:14:48,200 --> 03:14:50,280
commission. Again, these are

3930
03:14:50,280 --> 03:14:51,960
appointments

3931
03:14:51,960 --> 03:14:54,800
that um

3932
03:14:54,800 --> 03:14:56,640
are the are recommendations that the

3933
03:14:56,640 --> 03:14:58,320
mayor gives to the city council with

3934
03:14:58,320 --> 03:15:00,960
advice and consent, but I would like um

3935
03:15:00,960 --> 03:15:06,280
to just give a moment to Councilmember Meekam who is the city

3936
03:15:06,280 --> 03:15:09,120
council representative

3937
03:15:09,120 --> 03:15:10,960
with the planning commission to talk

3938
03:15:10,960 --> 03:15:14,800
about these appointments.

3939
03:15:14,800 --> 03:15:17,280
>> Yeah. Uh thank you, Mayor.

3940
03:15:17,280 --> 03:15:19,440
Uh as we mentioned in our meeting in

3941
03:15:19,440 --> 03:15:20,800
February where we also had planning

3942
03:15:20,800 --> 03:15:22,800
commission appointments, uh this is a a

3943
03:15:22,800 --> 03:15:24,520
really important commission. We're we're

3944
03:15:24,520 --> 03:15:27,120
so grateful for those who serve. Our

3945
03:15:27,120 --> 03:15:28,560
planning commission chair Madeline Koman

3946
03:15:28,560 --> 03:15:29,840
is here with us tonight. We're grateful

3947
03:15:29,840 --> 03:15:32,160
for for service and the way that she

3948
03:15:32,160 --> 03:15:32,720
uh

3949
03:15:32,720 --> 03:15:35,560
leads uh that commission Uh with grace

3950
03:15:35,560 --> 03:15:37,520
and dignity. Really grateful for that,

3951
03:15:37,520 --> 03:15:38,720
Madeline.

3952
03:15:38,720 --> 03:15:39,440
Uh

3953
03:15:39,440 --> 03:15:40,920
because this is

3954
03:15:40,920 --> 03:15:42,520
an important responsibility, we've

3955
03:15:42,520 --> 03:15:45,200
invited all of the council members and

3956
03:15:45,200 --> 03:15:47,760
the mayor to consider a range of

3957
03:15:47,760 --> 03:15:50,440
applicants. We've had uh now

3958
03:15:50,440 --> 03:15:53,040
15 interviews of planning commission

3959
03:15:53,040 --> 03:15:55,760
candidates and we anticipate that we

3960
03:15:55,760 --> 03:15:57,320
will have additional planning commission

3961
03:15:57,320 --> 03:15:58,720
appointments at some time in the future

3962
03:15:58,720 --> 03:15:59,800
as well.

3963
03:15:59,800 --> 03:16:02,200
But I just want to to express

3964
03:16:02,200 --> 03:16:03,600
appreciation to the council and the

3965
03:16:03,600 --> 03:16:06,560
mayor for taking this responsibility so

3966
03:16:06,560 --> 03:16:09,840
seriously and being so engaged in in

3967
03:16:09,840 --> 03:16:12,000
talking to those who are willing to

3968
03:16:12,000 --> 03:16:13,560
serve in our community.

3969
03:16:13,560 --> 03:16:15,760
We've really tried, I think, to find a

3970
03:16:15,760 --> 03:16:18,040
way to bring candidates on our planning

3971
03:16:18,040 --> 03:16:20,640
commission that have widespread support

3972
03:16:20,640 --> 03:16:22,880
across the council.

3973
03:16:22,880 --> 03:16:24,320
I also want to mention that we do have

3974
03:16:24,320 --> 03:16:27,840
one council member, Mike Carpenter, who

3975
03:16:27,840 --> 03:16:29,080
or sorry, a

3976
03:16:29,080 --> 03:16:30,600
planning commissioner, Mike Carpenter,

3977
03:16:30,600 --> 03:16:31,960
who

3978
03:16:31,960 --> 03:16:35,400
has finished his term. He finished his term on planning commission in

3979
03:16:35,400 --> 03:16:37,680
December. He's been graciously willing

3980
03:16:37,680 --> 03:16:39,280
to stay on for

3981
03:16:39,280 --> 03:16:40,600
a couple of months beyond that. We've

3982
03:16:40,600 --> 03:16:42,640
needed him in in that role. He's served

3983
03:16:42,640 --> 03:16:44,640
an important role as vice chair

3984
03:16:44,640 --> 03:16:48,960
of our planning commission and and uh we just want to express I want to

3985
03:16:48,960 --> 03:16:51,160
express my personal appreciation for the

3986
03:16:51,160 --> 03:16:52,480
way in which

3987
03:16:52,480 --> 03:16:57,680
he's really sought to represent Orem and many of the concerns of

3988
03:16:57,680 --> 03:16:59,760
neighbors around Orem throughout his

3989
03:16:59,760 --> 03:17:02,360
time on planning commission. Thank you.

3990
03:17:02,360 --> 03:17:04,240
>> All right, thank you. And I too want to

3991
03:17:04,240 --> 03:17:07,240
express my appreciation to the council

3992
03:17:07,240 --> 03:17:09,440
for taking the time. It was a tremendous

3993
03:17:09,440 --> 03:17:13,960
amount of time to interview and ponder

3994
03:17:13,960 --> 03:17:17,480
and make recommendations to me as to as

3995
03:17:17,480 --> 03:17:19,680
to who to appoint. I also want to

3996
03:17:19,680 --> 03:17:22,320
express my appreciation to Mr. Carpenter

3997
03:17:22,320 --> 03:17:24,040
for his service on the planning

3998
03:17:24,040 --> 03:17:26,440
commission and appreciate his his

3999
03:17:26,440 --> 03:17:29,400
interest in in civic matters and and for

4000
03:17:29,400 --> 03:17:31,440
the the positive contribution that he's

4001
03:17:31,440 --> 03:17:32,680
made.

4002
03:17:32,680 --> 03:17:33,960
I'm going to go ahead and do the same

4003
03:17:33,960 --> 03:17:36,320
thing as we did with the other

4004
03:17:36,320 --> 03:17:38,080
appointments. I have two as the mayor

4005
03:17:38,080 --> 03:17:40,200
and we have two recommendations

4006
03:17:40,200 --> 03:17:41,560
and we'll just take we each one

4007
03:17:41,560 --> 03:17:44,000
individually. I first would like to

4008
03:17:44,000 --> 03:17:46,200
recommend Michael Ladle

4009
03:17:46,200 --> 03:17:48,680
at to be appointed as a member of the

4010
03:17:48,680 --> 03:17:50,280
planning commission. Mr. Ladle, are you

4011
03:17:50,280 --> 03:17:53,160
here this evening per chance?

4012
03:17:53,160 --> 03:17:55,640
Okay, I don't see Okay, don't see

4013
03:17:55,640 --> 03:17:56,880
So,

4014
03:17:56,880 --> 03:17:57,960
that would that would be my

4015
03:17:57,960 --> 03:18:00,280
recommendation and so I would

4016
03:18:00,280 --> 03:18:00,840
>> Oh,

4017
03:18:00,840 --> 03:18:02,440
are you ready for a motion? What's that?

4018
03:18:02,440 --> 03:18:03,320
Are you ready for a motion?

4019
03:18:03,320 --> 03:18:05,040
>> I'm ready for a motion. Yes.

4020
03:18:05,040 --> 03:18:06,280
>> were asking for one.

4021
03:18:06,280 --> 03:18:08,600
>> Um I I make a motion that we approve

4022
03:18:08,600 --> 03:18:10,120
Michael and I think it's Ladell

4023
03:18:10,120 --> 03:18:13,880
>> Ladell? Oh, I am so sorry Mr. Ladell if

4024
03:18:13,880 --> 03:18:15,640
you're in the camera. Sorry. [laughter]

4025
03:18:15,640 --> 03:18:17,640
Ladell.

4026
03:18:17,640 --> 03:18:19,000
>> I'll second that.

4027
03:18:19,000 --> 03:18:20,360
>> All right, we have a motion and a

4028
03:18:20,360 --> 03:18:22,920
second. Is there any more discussion on

4029
03:18:22,920 --> 03:18:25,080
Mr. Ladell's appointment to the planning

4030
03:18:25,080 --> 03:18:27,000
commission?

4031
03:18:27,000 --> 03:18:28,840
All right, we'll start voting with Mr.

4032
03:18:28,840 --> 03:18:29,960
Council member Kilpack.

4033
03:18:29,960 --> 03:18:35,320
>> I.

4034
03:18:35,320 --> 03:18:38,160
Okay, motion carries.

4035
03:18:38,160 --> 03:18:40,960
Okay, thank you and our final

4036
03:18:40,960 --> 03:18:44,120
My final recommendation this evening is

4037
03:18:44,120 --> 03:18:46,680
to appoint Jeff Reeves

4038
03:18:46,680 --> 03:18:48,120
at to be a member of the planning

4039
03:18:48,120 --> 03:18:51,080
commission. Are you here this evening

4040
03:18:51,080 --> 03:18:52,000
Mr. Reeves?

4041
03:18:52,000 --> 03:18:52,680
>> He's not.

4042
03:18:52,680 --> 03:18:54,320
>> Okay, he's not here this evening as

4043
03:18:54,320 --> 03:18:57,960
well. So, at this time I would open it

4044
03:18:57,960 --> 03:19:00,160
up for discussion or motion, whatever

4045
03:19:00,160 --> 03:19:02,960
you you see fit council.

4046
03:19:02,960 --> 03:19:04,920
>> I'd actually like to say something if I

4047
03:19:04,920 --> 03:19:05,280
may.

4048
03:19:05,280 --> 03:19:05,640
>> Okay.

4049
03:19:05,640 --> 03:19:08,200
>> Is it appropriate now? Okay. Um

4050
03:19:08,200 --> 03:19:09,640
as we consider these planning commission

4051
03:19:09,640 --> 03:19:11,240
appointments, I'd like to highlight a

4052
03:19:11,240 --> 03:19:13,440
principle that I believe is important in

4053
03:19:13,440 --> 03:19:16,240
the effectiveness and credibility of um

4054
03:19:16,240 --> 03:19:18,240
that body, our planning commission, and

4055
03:19:18,240 --> 03:19:19,960
that is one of broad geographic

4056
03:19:19,960 --> 03:19:22,560
representation across our city.

4057
03:19:22,560 --> 03:19:23,680
The Planning Commission makes

4058
03:19:23,680 --> 03:19:26,240
recommendations that shape land use,

4059
03:19:26,240 --> 03:19:28,800
development, and zoning decisions that

4060
03:19:28,800 --> 03:19:32,240
affect every neighborhood in Orem.

4061
03:19:32,240 --> 03:19:34,760
Because of that, it is valuable for the

4062
03:19:34,760 --> 03:19:37,080
commission to reflect a range of

4063
03:19:37,080 --> 03:19:39,640
perspectives from across our city,

4064
03:19:39,640 --> 03:19:43,000
not only in experience and background,

4065
03:19:43,000 --> 03:19:45,200
but also geographically.

4066
03:19:45,200 --> 03:19:47,320
Orem is made up of many distinct

4067
03:19:47,320 --> 03:19:49,680
neighborhoods, each with its own

4068
03:19:49,680 --> 03:19:50,960
character,

4069
03:19:50,960 --> 03:19:53,560
priorities, and especially with their

4070
03:19:53,560 --> 03:19:56,640
own experiences with growth and with

4071
03:19:56,640 --> 03:19:58,080
development.

4072
03:19:58,080 --> 03:19:59,800
When residents from different areas of

4073
03:19:59,800 --> 03:20:01,400
the city are represented on the

4074
03:20:01,400 --> 03:20:03,360
commission, it brings a broader

4075
03:20:03,360 --> 03:20:06,600
understanding of how decisions impact

4076
03:20:06,600 --> 03:20:09,240
our community as a whole.

4077
03:20:09,240 --> 03:20:11,680
When multiple members live within just a

4078
03:20:11,680 --> 03:20:14,440
few blocks of one another, it naturally

4079
03:20:14,440 --> 03:20:17,080
raises the question of whether we are

4080
03:20:17,080 --> 03:20:20,200
capturing the full range of neighborhood

4081
03:20:20,200 --> 03:20:23,160
perspectives across Orem.

4082
03:20:23,160 --> 03:20:24,880
A commission that draws members from

4083
03:20:24,880 --> 03:20:27,400
different parts of the city strengthens

4084
03:20:27,400 --> 03:20:29,920
those discussions, improves the

4085
03:20:29,920 --> 03:20:32,440
recommendations that come forward, and

4086
03:20:32,440 --> 03:20:35,040
helps the residents feel

4087
03:20:35,040 --> 03:20:36,400
that their neighborhoods are being

4088
03:20:36,400 --> 03:20:38,240
representative

4089
03:20:38,240 --> 03:20:40,040
and represented.

4090
03:20:40,040 --> 03:20:42,040
And I've heard that several times from

4091
03:20:42,040 --> 03:20:44,280
certain areas of Orem

4092
03:20:44,280 --> 03:20:47,160
in my last 4 years on the council.

4093
03:20:47,160 --> 03:20:49,800
As we make appointments tonight, I hope

4094
03:20:49,800 --> 03:20:52,160
that we will continue working toward a

4095
03:20:52,160 --> 03:20:54,920
Planning Commission that reflects a full

4096
03:20:54,920 --> 03:20:58,000
geography of Orem and

4097
03:20:58,000 --> 03:21:01,040
represents the diverse voices of our

4098
03:21:01,040 --> 03:21:03,960
community. Thank you, Mayor.

4099
03:21:03,960 --> 03:21:08,800
>> All right, thank you. Appreciate your thoughts. Anybody else? Um Council

4100
03:21:08,800 --> 03:21:10,880
member Millstein.

4101
03:21:10,880 --> 03:21:13,360
>> We're in a very unusual situation in

4102
03:21:13,360 --> 03:21:16,160
which we are replacing five commission

4103
03:21:16,160 --> 03:21:20,000
members at one time due to many reasons

4104
03:21:20,000 --> 03:21:22,120
as to why that's happening.

4105
03:21:22,120 --> 03:21:25,280
I question

4106
03:21:25,280 --> 03:21:26,840
the

4107
03:21:26,840 --> 03:21:28,720
uh

4108
03:21:28,720 --> 03:21:31,560
decision to replace a long-standing

4109
03:21:31,560 --> 03:21:33,040
member

4110
03:21:33,040 --> 03:21:35,000
at this time leaving our chair in a

4111
03:21:35,000 --> 03:21:37,680
position where she needs to train so

4112
03:21:37,680 --> 03:21:39,600
many people and I just wanted to voice

4113
03:21:39,600 --> 03:21:41,920
that publicly.

4114
03:21:41,920 --> 03:21:43,760
>> Well, thank you. I appreciate your your

4115
03:21:43,760 --> 03:21:46,240
thoughts on that about that we do have

4116
03:21:46,240 --> 03:21:47,840
our planning commission chair here in

4117
03:21:47,840 --> 03:21:52,440
the audience this evening. Um chair Colvin, I appreciate your

4118
03:21:52,440 --> 03:21:53,760
service

4119
03:21:53,760 --> 03:21:57,320
and and willingness to to be uh part of

4120
03:21:57,320 --> 03:21:59,320
our planning commission.

4121
03:21:59,320 --> 03:22:02,280
Is there any other discussion?

4122
03:22:02,280 --> 03:22:04,480
>> I I I guess I'll also voice my concern

4123
03:22:04,480 --> 03:22:05,720
at the appointment of this time the

4124
03:22:05,720 --> 03:22:07,360
replacement of that commission member at

4125
03:22:07,360 --> 03:22:11,560
this time because of the the

4126
03:22:11,560 --> 03:22:13,000
number of

4127
03:22:13,000 --> 03:22:15,240
members who are new. I feel experience

4128
03:22:15,240 --> 03:22:17,480
is very important on our planning

4129
03:22:17,480 --> 03:22:18,720
commission

4130
03:22:18,720 --> 03:22:20,240
and um

4131
03:22:20,240 --> 03:22:21,480
would like to

4132
03:22:21,480 --> 03:22:23,560
just do that as a vote of support for

4133
03:22:23,560 --> 03:22:25,360
our planning commission

4134
03:22:25,360 --> 03:22:28,400
uh chair. Sorry about this.

4135
03:22:28,400 --> 03:22:30,240
>> All right, thank you.

4136
03:22:30,240 --> 03:22:31,680
Yes, I know I've I've been a planning

4137
03:22:31,680 --> 03:22:34,560
commission chair before. Um not not in

4138
03:22:34,560 --> 03:22:35,520
this

4139
03:22:35,520 --> 03:22:37,400
not here in Warren but in in another

4140
03:22:37,400 --> 03:22:41,560
entity and yes, I understand the

4141
03:22:41,560 --> 03:22:44,840
that goes into that and understand the

4142
03:22:44,840 --> 03:22:46,720
So, but thank you.

4143
03:22:46,720 --> 03:22:47,960
All right, Council, any other

4144
03:22:47,960 --> 03:22:50,760
discussion?

4145
03:22:50,760 --> 03:22:53,000
All right.

4146
03:22:53,000 --> 03:22:56,470
What would you like to do?

4147
03:22:56,480 --> 03:22:58,000
» I motion to appoint Jeff Reeves to the

4148
03:22:58,000 --> 03:22:59,440
planning commission.

4149
03:22:59,440 --> 03:23:00,960
>> Can we have a motion to approve Jeff

4150
03:23:00,960 --> 03:23:05,030
Reeves to the planning commission?

4151
03:23:05,040 --> 03:23:06,040
» I'll second.

4152
03:23:06,040 --> 03:23:08,120
>> Okay, we have a second.

4153
03:23:08,120 --> 03:23:09,035
To um

4154
03:23:09,035 --> 03:23:09,120
>> [clears throat]

4155
03:23:09,120 --> 03:23:10,400
>> All right, we'll go ahead and take a

4156
03:23:10,400 --> 03:23:12,600
vote. Council member Mealsteen.

4157
03:23:12,600 --> 03:23:13,600
>> Nay.

4158
03:23:13,600 --> 03:23:15,280
>> Aye.

4159
03:23:15,280 --> 03:23:17,040
>> Nay.

4160
03:23:17,040 --> 03:23:18,120
>> Aye.

4161
03:23:18,120 --> 03:23:19,720
>> And I vote aye.

4162
03:23:19,720 --> 03:23:21,040
>> Aye.

4163
03:23:21,040 --> 03:23:24,440
>> Right, the motion carries. Thank you.

4164
03:23:24,440 --> 03:23:26,320
All right, the next item on our agenda

4165
03:23:26,320 --> 03:23:28,480
is number 11, financial items. You have

4166
03:23:28,480 --> 03:23:31,000
in your packet a copy of the monthly uh

4167
03:23:31,000 --> 03:23:33,120
January 2026

4168
03:23:33,120 --> 03:23:35,880
uh monthly financial statement

4169
03:23:35,880 --> 03:23:37,120
on that.

4170
03:23:37,120 --> 03:23:39,560
And just that's for information only.

4171
03:23:39,560 --> 03:23:42,400
And then number item 12, city manager

4172
03:23:42,400 --> 03:23:44,040
information item. So, we'll turn the

4173
03:23:44,040 --> 03:23:47,000
time over to uh Mr. Whybray.

4174
03:23:47,000 --> 03:23:49,960
>> Thank you so much. Um just a few items

4175
03:23:49,960 --> 03:23:52,320
tonight. So, want to give one last plug

4176
03:23:52,320 --> 03:23:53,960
and reminder of our State of the City

4177
03:23:53,960 --> 03:23:57,240
event this Thursday morning at 10:00

4178
03:23:57,240 --> 03:23:59,720
a.m. in our library hall.

4179
03:23:59,720 --> 03:24:03,480
Um and then uh I know that you're many

4180
03:24:03,480 --> 03:24:05,480
of you are probably getting questions

4181
03:24:05,480 --> 03:24:07,560
and concerns from Orem residents,

4182
03:24:07,560 --> 03:24:09,800
particularly particularly those that

4183
03:24:09,800 --> 03:24:12,600
live kind of north of 12th North, 1600

4184
03:24:12,600 --> 03:24:16,160
North, about the uh upcoming uh Lindon

4185
03:24:16,160 --> 03:24:17,800
open house and the traffic that that's

4186
03:24:17,800 --> 03:24:19,840
going to cause, the potential parking.

4187
03:24:19,840 --> 03:24:22,920
Just want you to feel assured and please

4188
03:24:22,920 --> 03:24:24,760
help assure the residents over there

4189
03:24:24,760 --> 03:24:26,640
that um

4190
03:24:26,640 --> 03:24:28,640
Orem is involved. We have been in

4191
03:24:28,640 --> 03:24:30,720
communication and attempting to

4192
03:24:30,720 --> 03:24:33,800
collaborate and even offer uh resources

4193
03:24:33,800 --> 03:24:36,400
and help during the the time of the open

4194
03:24:36,400 --> 03:24:39,600
house. And uh our tiger traffic team has

4195
03:24:39,600 --> 03:24:41,800
been in communication with Lindon's

4196
03:24:41,800 --> 03:24:44,320
staff and and our our public safety

4197
03:24:44,320 --> 03:24:47,840
leadership. So, uh and if uh you want to

4198
03:24:47,840 --> 03:24:50,680
encourage any residents to uh

4199
03:24:50,680 --> 03:24:52,120
um

4200
03:24:52,120 --> 03:24:54,840
travel south and go shop at, you know,

4201
03:24:54,840 --> 03:24:56,720
University Place rather than up into

4202
03:24:56,720 --> 03:24:58,760
Lindon, then that would have helped with

4203
03:24:58,760 --> 03:25:00,360
the uh traffic

4204
03:25:00,360 --> 03:25:01,520
as well.

4205
03:25:01,520 --> 03:25:03,440
Uh

4206
03:25:03,440 --> 03:25:04,240
>> Nice news.

4207
03:25:04,240 --> 03:25:06,160
>> Shameless plug for shopping in Orem.

4208
03:25:06,160 --> 03:25:07,880
>> And this audience, too. if you ride your

4209
03:25:07,880 --> 03:25:10,440
bicycle to the temple open house, it's

4210
03:25:10,440 --> 03:25:13,080
all downhill to University Place.

4211
03:25:13,080 --> 03:25:17,150
>> The Murdock Canal is right next to it.

4212
03:25:17,160 --> 03:25:19,400
» Okay. Um I wish I would have said that

4213
03:25:19,400 --> 03:25:21,240
with a straighter face.

4214
03:25:21,240 --> 03:25:23,040
Um

4215
03:25:23,040 --> 03:25:25,400
as you know, the uh state legislative

4216
03:25:25,400 --> 03:25:28,080
session is is is done.

4217
03:25:28,080 --> 03:25:30,200
Um we will still have some of our state

4218
03:25:30,200 --> 03:25:32,120
legislators come in and and present and

4219
03:25:32,120 --> 03:25:34,720
share some of the things that they feel

4220
03:25:34,720 --> 03:25:37,080
uh have been accomplished for for Orem

4221
03:25:37,080 --> 03:25:39,360
during the legislative session. I will

4222
03:25:39,360 --> 03:25:41,360
just also um

4223
03:25:41,360 --> 03:25:43,600
uh say myself that I think that this has

4224
03:25:43,600 --> 03:25:46,080
been one of the more effective uh

4225
03:25:46,080 --> 03:25:47,840
legislative sessions that Orem and

4226
03:25:47,840 --> 03:25:51,120
cities have had and super appreciate the

4227
03:25:51,120 --> 03:25:53,600
time and effort and uh

4228
03:25:53,600 --> 03:25:56,040
communication and relationships that

4229
03:25:56,040 --> 03:25:58,440
you've uh uh developed during the

4230
03:25:58,440 --> 03:26:00,520
legislative session. It has been

4231
03:26:00,520 --> 03:26:03,520
effective. One uh that I'm particularly

4232
03:26:03,520 --> 03:26:05,000
interested in and that we've already got

4233
03:26:05,000 --> 03:26:07,160
our strategy and innovation staff

4234
03:26:07,160 --> 03:26:10,720
looking into is House Bill 492. That's

4235
03:26:10,720 --> 03:26:12,400
been a bill that's been in the works for

4236
03:26:12,400 --> 03:26:15,080
multiple years and it's money being set

4237
03:26:15,080 --> 03:26:19,960
aside for um uh housing renewal efforts.

4238
03:26:19,960 --> 03:26:23,240
So, um that's one that uh uh we're we're

4239
03:26:23,240 --> 03:26:25,160
keeping a sharp eye on and we're we're

4240
03:26:25,160 --> 03:26:27,120
ready to see if we can't get some of

4241
03:26:27,120 --> 03:26:29,400
those dollars here to Orem.

4242
03:26:29,400 --> 03:26:32,400
Um and then

4243
03:26:32,400 --> 03:26:33,800
uh we've talked a lot about the water

4244
03:26:33,800 --> 03:26:35,960
reuse project. There will also be a

4245
03:26:35,960 --> 03:26:39,120
neighborhood meeting this coming um

4246
03:26:39,120 --> 03:26:43,160
Thursday at 6:30 p.m.

4247
03:26:43,160 --> 03:26:44,120
>> Where it's right now.

4248
03:26:44,120 --> 03:26:45,880
>> At that Sleepy Ridge Golf Course.

4249
03:26:45,880 --> 03:26:47,640
>> At Sleepy Ridge Golf Course and that

4250
03:26:47,640 --> 03:26:49,880
will be to, you know, educate those

4251
03:26:49,880 --> 03:26:55,680
residents that are more adjacent to that project. That uh a calendar invite

4252
03:26:55,680 --> 03:26:57,480
has has been put on your calendar so

4253
03:26:57,480 --> 03:27:00,000
that you're aware of it. Um

4254
03:27:00,000 --> 03:27:00,720
uh

4255
03:27:00,720 --> 03:27:01,920
you know, we want to make sure that

4256
03:27:01,920 --> 03:27:03,800
we're being proactive and and going the

4257
03:27:03,800 --> 03:27:05,560
extra mile in communication with our

4258
03:27:05,560 --> 03:27:06,160
residents.

4259
03:27:06,160 --> 03:27:07,560
>> Mhm. Brent, if I could if I could

4260
03:27:07,560 --> 03:27:09,840
insert, too. We've we've sent letters

4261
03:27:09,840 --> 03:27:11,000
with the help of Pete Wolsey and the

4262
03:27:11,000 --> 03:27:12,960
communications team to all the

4263
03:27:12,960 --> 03:27:15,040
neighborhood that is adjacent to the

4264
03:27:15,040 --> 03:27:17,480
golf course and Lakeside Sports Park, so

4265
03:27:17,480 --> 03:27:19,800
they're aware of the transition to water

4266
03:27:19,800 --> 03:27:22,320
reuse and its benefits and

4267
03:27:22,320 --> 03:27:26,000
the do's and don'ts of using that water.

4268
03:27:26,000 --> 03:27:28,760
>> Don't drink from the hose, right? Or the

4269
03:27:28,760 --> 03:27:29,400
sprinklers.

4270
03:27:29,400 --> 03:27:31,240
>> Don't drink the water.

4271
03:27:31,240 --> 03:27:34,320
>> Thank you, Chris. One last little

4272
03:27:34,320 --> 03:27:34,880
uh,

4273
03:27:34,880 --> 03:27:38,320
shout-out to our uh, Library Hall staff.

4274
03:27:38,320 --> 03:27:41,280
They we have had two

4275
03:27:41,280 --> 03:27:44,920
um, sold-out classes for the water-wise

4276
03:27:44,920 --> 03:27:47,560
classes. They're in the Library Hall, so

4277
03:27:47,560 --> 03:27:49,640
I think that we'll even try to offer

4278
03:27:49,640 --> 03:27:52,200
some more of those, so uh, pretty fun

4279
03:27:52,200 --> 03:27:54,840
that um, our residents are are paying

4280
03:27:54,840 --> 03:27:57,240
attention to the programming and and

4281
03:27:57,240 --> 03:27:59,000
educational opportunities provided in

4282
03:27:59,000 --> 03:28:00,760
our Library Hall.

4283
03:28:00,760 --> 03:28:01,760
That's all I have.

4284
03:28:01,760 --> 03:28:02,920
>> I do have a question. If you just

4285
03:28:02,920 --> 03:28:06,520
clarify, when is the next time that we will be

4286
03:28:06,520 --> 03:28:08,920
meeting in here as a City Council?

4287
03:28:08,920 --> 03:28:11,560
>> Oh, good point. Um, we won't have

4288
03:28:11,560 --> 03:28:14,080
another City Council regular session

4289
03:28:14,080 --> 03:28:15,160
meeting

4290
03:28:15,160 --> 03:28:19,440
uh, until April 28th, so the fourth um,

4291
03:28:19,440 --> 03:28:22,880
Tuesday in April. And that's because uh,

4292
03:28:22,880 --> 03:28:26,040
later this month uh, um,

4293
03:28:26,040 --> 03:28:29,080
we are uh, tak-

4294
03:28:29,080 --> 03:28:32,200
uh, Mayor and and I and some of uh, the

4295
03:28:32,200 --> 03:28:35,400
exact staff are are taking a trip to DC

4296
03:28:35,400 --> 03:28:38,800
to uh, continue to meet with our federal

4297
03:28:38,800 --> 03:28:41,520
delegation to get back as many dollars

4298
03:28:41,520 --> 03:28:44,640
as we can to Orem and to Orem projects.

4299
03:28:44,640 --> 03:28:45,320
Uh,

4300
03:28:45,320 --> 03:28:48,160
much like uh, we experienced today in

4301
03:28:48,160 --> 03:28:50,240
uh, at our wastewater treatment plant.

4302
03:28:50,240 --> 03:28:53,680
And then on April 14th, we will have a

4303
03:28:53,680 --> 03:28:56,480
uh, a work session, but not a a regular

4304
03:28:56,480 --> 03:28:58,920
session because of the um Utah Valley

4305
03:28:58,920 --> 03:29:02,640
Chamber Pillar of the Valley event that

4306
03:29:02,640 --> 03:29:04,640
>> All right, thank you. And just so you

4307
03:29:04,640 --> 03:29:07,880
know um council members too that we did

4308
03:29:07,880 --> 03:29:11,240
submit how many applications to the um

4309
03:29:11,240 --> 03:29:13,160
congre- congressional delegation for

4310
03:29:13,160 --> 03:29:15,080
projects? Is it two? Two different

4311
03:29:15,080 --> 03:29:17,880
projects where we're asking funding for.

4312
03:29:17,880 --> 03:29:19,880
And so we'll as when we go there we'll

4313
03:29:19,880 --> 03:29:22,840
be we'll be promoting and discussing

4314
03:29:22,840 --> 03:29:23,480
those.

4315
03:29:23,480 --> 03:29:25,160
>> We've been quite successful in recent

4316
03:29:25,160 --> 03:29:27,360
years uh literally bringing back

4317
03:29:27,360 --> 03:29:30,440
millions multi-millions of dollars for

4318
03:29:30,440 --> 03:29:33,120
uh these Orem specific beneficial

4319
03:29:33,120 --> 03:29:35,990
projects.

4320
03:29:36,000 --> 03:29:38,640
» All right, thank you. Okay, Mr. Earl, I

4321
03:29:38,640 --> 03:29:40,520
need to a little guidance on how this is

4322
03:29:40,520 --> 03:29:42,160
supposed to be done because we're we

4323
03:29:42,160 --> 03:29:45,320
need to go back to

4324
03:29:45,320 --> 03:29:47,680
our closed door session. So how how does

4325
03:29:47,680 --> 03:29:49,160
that motion need to be?

4326
03:29:49,160 --> 03:29:50,640
>> Um just the [clears throat] same as as

4327
03:29:50,640 --> 03:29:52,640
you always make a motion just to adjourn

4328
03:29:52,640 --> 03:29:55,000
to a a closed session for the purposes

4329
03:29:55,000 --> 03:29:55,760
>> stated.

4330
03:29:55,760 --> 03:29:56,520
>> agenda.

4331
03:29:56,520 --> 03:29:58,920
>> Okay, I would entertain a motion to

4332
03:29:58,920 --> 03:30:00,440
adjourn to a closed session in the

4333
03:30:00,440 --> 03:30:02,360
Summit conference room to discuss

4334
03:30:02,360 --> 03:30:03,880
pending or reasonably imminent

4335
03:30:03,880 --> 03:30:05,720
litigation, the character or

4336
03:30:05,720 --> 03:30:07,160
professional competence of an

4337
03:30:07,160 --> 03:30:09,720
individual, or the purchase or lease of

4338
03:30:09,720 --> 03:30:10,560
real property.

4339
03:30:10,560 --> 03:30:11,560
>> So moved.

4340
03:30:11,560 --> 03:30:13,120
>> I have a motion. Is there a second?

4341
03:30:13,120 --> 03:30:14,080
>> Second.

4342
03:30:14,080 --> 03:30:17,000
>> All right, thank you. All right.

4343
03:30:17,000 --> 03:30:19,400
Now, Council member Mielsteen, did I

4344
03:30:19,400 --> 03:30:20,880
leave off with you as the first one to

4345
03:30:20,880 --> 03:30:22,720
vote? Oh, Council member Gale, I'm

4346
03:30:22,720 --> 03:30:23,440
sorry.

4347
03:30:23,440 --> 03:30:24,000
>> Hi.

4348
03:30:24,000 --> 03:30:24,520
>> Okay.

4349
03:30:24,520 --> 03:30:28,960
>> Hi.

4350
03:30:28,960 --> 03:30:31,240
>> All right, motion carries. Thank you.

4351
03:30:31,240 --> 03:30:32,800
We'll see you

4352
03:30:32,800 --> 03:30:35,600
in April.