[4:09] city council meeting. Oh, there we go. [4:12] And I'll go ahead and call the meeting [4:14] to order. [4:16] We have um Brandon Shamway here to give [4:19] us our invocation and or inspirational [4:22] thought and the pledge of allegiance [4:24] will be led by Ashley Shamay. So, thank [4:27] you for coming and doing that this [4:28] evening. [4:30] So you just come up here and [4:38] » our dear heavenly father, we're so [4:40] grateful for the opportunity we have to [4:43] be here this evening in these chambers. [4:45] We're thankful for um the freedoms that [4:48] we enjoy uh in this country and in this [4:51] state. We're thankful for this wonderful [4:54] community that we live in. and we're [4:57] thankful for the the leaders of our city [5:00] that volunteer their time to to be here [5:02] and do what's best for us, the [5:04] constituents. [5:06] We ask that you please bless the mayor, [5:08] the city council, and the division [5:09] heads. They can find common ground on [5:12] some difficult issues that we have here [5:14] in our city and and within our state and [5:16] within our neighbors. And again, we're [5:19] thankful for them. Uh, please bless the [5:22] fire department, the firefighters, and [5:24] the police department that are out [5:26] working 24/7 to make our community a [5:28] little bit safer. Please keep them safe. [5:31] We say these things humbly in the name [5:33] of thy son Jesus Christ. Amen. [5:40] » Will you rise for the pledge? [5:43] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [5:46] United States of America and to the [5:49] republic for which it stands, one nation [5:53] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [5:56] justice for all. [6:01] Thank you for the uh for the invocation [6:06] in in leading the pledge of allegiance. [6:08] Uh Mr. and Mrs. Shamway. Right. The [6:10] first item on our uh on our scheduled [6:14] items is a resolution of the UT Utah [6:17] retirement safe uh I can't remember yours. There we go. [6:22] [gasps] Um public safety and firefighter [6:24] tier 2 hybrid employees contribution [6:26] rate pickup. So I'll turn the time over [6:28] to Jennica Jones for her uh [6:31] presentation. [6:37] Okay. Thank you, Mayor and Council. So, [6:39] as you know, the city participates in [6:41] the Utah retirement systems for [6:43] employees retirement benefits. Um, and [6:46] this includes public employees as well [6:48] as employees there and the public safety [6:50] and firefighters retirement systems of [6:52] that uh program. So before you tonight [6:55] is a resolution proposing that the city [6:56] of ORM pick up the upcoming increase in [6:59] the Utah Retirement Systems employee [7:01] contribution rates for employees who are [7:03] in the tier 2 public safety hybrid [7:06] retirement system as well as for [7:08] employees in the tier 2 firefighters [7:10] hybrid retirement system. Effective July [7:13] 1st of 2026, the employee retirement [7:16] contribution rate for both categories of [7:18] employees will be increasing from 4.73% [7:21] to 5.98%. [7:24] And the state legislature gives any [7:26] entities that participate in URS, [7:28] including ORM, the option to pick up [7:30] this employee contribution rate for [7:31] employees in the tier 2 public safety [7:34] and fire hybrid retirement programs. Um, [7:37] since that's been uh since there's been [7:40] an employee contribution rate in these [7:42] categories, that is something that the [7:43] city has always done and we feel it's in [7:46] the best interest of the city to [7:47] continue to pick this up to show support [7:49] for our public safety and fire employees [7:52] and to attract and retain these [7:53] employees. Uh, the vast majority of [7:55] cities in Utah pick up this full amount. [7:58] So, this will keep ORM competitive in [8:00] regards to our benefits. So, uh, any [8:03] questions about this resolution? [8:05] >> All right, council. Um, do any questions [8:07] for Jennica? [8:09] All right. This is not a public hearing, [8:11] but if there's anyone who has come who [8:13] would like to speak to this, I'd give [8:15] you a minute up here to do that. [8:19] Um, seeing none, we bring it back to the [8:21] council. I mean, for this re resolution. [8:26] » Okay. Yeah. Just one comment. I'd like [8:28] to say that I appreciate this [8:30] opportunity to help um our public safety [8:34] in creating a package that attracts them [8:37] to our city and just some additional [8:39] benefits for them [8:42] >> because we really want to attract the [8:43] best of the best. So, I I totally think [8:46] this is a great move and I appreciate [8:47] the opportunity we have to do that as a [8:49] council. [8:50] >> Thank you. [8:51] >> Right. Thank you, Council Member Bell. [8:54] All right. Okay. Um, Council Member [8:56] Kilopak, [8:58] >> Mayor, I move that uh to approve the [9:00] Utah Retirement System URS public safety [9:03] and firefighter tier 2 hybrid employees [9:06] contribution rate pickup. [9:08] >> Right. Thank you. I have a motion. Is [9:09] there a second? [9:10] >> I will second that. [9:11] >> Right. We have a motion and a second. Is [9:13] there any further discussion? [9:16] All right. Council member Gail, we'll [9:17] start with you. Have your vote. [9:19] >> I. We go. Council member Muelline. I [9:22] >> I [9:26] >> my turn. [9:26] >> Right. Motion carries. Thank you. Next [9:29] item on the agenda is a public hearing [9:32] regarding enterprise fund transfers. And [9:35] I'll turn the time over to Brandon [9:36] Nelson, our chief financial officer for [9:38] that. [10:20] Nothing [10:31] we can do about [10:39] screen. [10:43] » All right, that's on right. Thank you, [10:47] mayor. [10:49] uh as part of uh our requirements, legal [10:53] requirements to as far as uh presenting [10:56] our budget, one of the first things that [10:58] uh we had to do is um if there are [11:02] transfers out of our enterprise funds uh [11:06] that do not meet the qualifications as [11:08] far as related to um specifically [11:11] related to a cost. um then we are [11:14] required to hold a separate agenda [11:16] meeting to discuss the those items and [11:20] there's a variety of items that uh we [11:23] need to discuss as part of that uh as [11:25] required by state law. Um the nemesis [11:30] for uh these transfers is um some time [11:33] ago uh the state auditor's office uh [11:37] requested and required that we trans [11:40] that we record the use by the city of [11:44] various utilities primarily water, [11:47] sewer, street lighting um and storm [11:50] water services and that those be [11:53] reported in those various funds. that [11:56] used to be not a cost that the general [11:59] fund had to bear. And so as part of that [12:02] uh since it's basically this the city um [12:05] within itself um we transfer those we [12:09] charge those dollars to those enterprise [12:11] funds and then immediately transfer [12:12] those dollars back to the general fund [12:15] to make it whole. So that there's in [12:17] reality end up being no no effect um to [12:20] any of the funds related um but we [12:24] follow the that rule in doing so. As [12:26] part of that uh we have to advertise [12:28] that we are doing so and uh this is the [12:32] result of that ad um those transfers. So [12:36] um [12:40] well maybe [12:45] reason [12:50] There we go. Can you use that? [12:52] >> Oh, can you give me a mouse? [12:55] >> So that that's basically what I've [12:57] described here on this um slide is the various uh amounts that are [13:03] transferred charged to the general fund [13:05] and then the money transferred back each [13:08] of those various funds. [13:14] Um you can see the uh associated [13:17] percentage of those amounts in relation [13:20] to the total expenditures of those [13:22] particular funds. Um and and how those continue to go down as the um each [13:29] of those funds expenditures uh rise. [13:35] Um as part of that uh this information [13:38] we required to provide you with the [13:40] utility revenue um associated with each [13:42] of the those funds. So um you can see [13:46] how those transfers um impact in our in [13:49] relation to the revenues from those [13:51] funds [13:55] as well as um outlining the various [13:58] expenditures for each of those funds as [14:01] well. Um so that uh on the transfers [14:04] back to the general fund you can see [14:06] what the in essence the relative impact [14:09] for each of those funds in relation to [14:11] the amount being transferred back. [14:14] Mayor could I pipe in really quick for [14:17] those in the audience. We apologize for [14:18] the technical difficulties. There are [14:20] two screens back here that are working. [14:22] If you wanted to move back you could see [14:24] everything that's up there. Thanks. [14:27] [snorts] [14:31] Um [14:33] then as part of the requirements then uh [14:35] we are required to break down uh the [14:38] administrative costs internal any [14:40] internal transfers or transfer [14:41] information. Um you can see on the [14:44] second to last line on the bottom the [14:46] transfer that's being returned to the [14:48] general fund. Uh and then you know the [14:50] associated other charges uh that are [14:52] being charged to each one of the uh [14:55] funds. Um this is not all-incclusive but [14:58] these are the the particular transfers [15:00] that obviously the total at the bottom [15:01] is one of the items that we're [15:04] identifying when you can uh as far as [15:06] the totals go. [15:13] Um then you see a breakdown of the [15:15] utility uh fund each utility fund and [15:18] there a breakdown of general categories [15:20] within each one of those funds uh to [15:23] give you an idea of you know the magnit [15:25] again kind of give you the idea of the [15:27] magnitude of the transfer that's being [15:28] proposed. [15:33] Same concept with contracted services. [15:35] Um what kind of contracted services uh [15:38] do each of those utility funds u have? [15:41] Uh some of those are internal such as [15:43] the 311 center and the uh public works [15:46] um administrative uh assistants and [15:49] engineers and the capital projects [15:51] manager but many of the others are [15:52] external such as uh central Utah water. [15:55] Um so just to give you an idea of the [15:58] breakdown in within those contracted [16:00] services [16:04] and [16:06] any questions about these transfers. [16:09] >> Right. Thank you for the presentation. [16:10] Council, do you have any questions? [16:12] Council member Mikum. [16:14] >> Um, two things, Brandon. One, maybe I'll [16:17] just try to play this back to see if I [16:18] understand it correctly [16:20] >> and correct me if I get anything wrong. [16:22] >> You bet. [16:24] >> So, state law is requiring us [16:28] to pay for uh city utilities out of the [16:32] general fund at at market rates. And [16:36] historically, we have paid for those out [16:39] of our utility fees. Uh, and so what [16:42] you're asking us to do tonight is to [16:44] approve transfers from our utility fees [16:48] into the general fund for the purpose of [16:49] doing what those fees have always done [16:52] to pay for our city property utilities. [16:55] 100% correct. Okay. Uh, can you go back [16:58] to this this the page that has the [17:00] percentages on it? It was one of the [17:02] first slides that you showed us. [17:06] um help me understand how to interpret [17:09] this page. So is one way of interpreting [17:12] this page to mean that when you look at [17:16] all of our utility fees that we collect [17:20] um that approximately 3.7% [17:25] of the of those utility expenses are [17:28] city property. [17:30] >> Yes. For the water. [17:32] >> Correct. Uh and 808% for for sewer. [17:36] >> Correct. Okay. Which makes sense. We [17:38] have a lot of things we water parks [17:41] [clears throat] primarily. [17:41] >> Yeah. And fewer people who use the sewer [17:44] than perhaps residencies. Okay. Um and [17:47] so that that just represents the [17:49] approximate percentage of utility fees [17:53] uh in those funds that we're [17:54] transferring into the general fund for [17:56] the purpose of paying our city [17:58] utilities. Correct. Okay. Uh those were [18:00] my questions. Thank you. Okay. [18:02] >> All right. Thank you, council. Any other [18:05] questions? [18:07] All right. This is a public hearing, so [18:09] I'm going to go ahead and open the [18:10] public hearing. If you would like to [18:12] come and speak to the Enter Enterprise [18:16] Fund transfers, we invite you to come up [18:17] here and state your name and um please [18:20] limit your comments to three minutes. [18:27] All right. appears nobody wants to come [18:29] and speak to the enterprise fund [18:31] transfer. So, I'll go ahead and close [18:32] the public hearing and bring it back to [18:33] the council. [18:35] So, do you [18:38] >> There's no motion or anything. It's [18:39] purelyformational. [18:41] >> It'sformational. Okay. I was going to [18:42] say I don't see an action here. So, it's [18:44] just So, there's no motion that needs to [18:46] take place. Okay. [18:47] >> It is embedded within the uh budget. [18:51] Okay. Or would be passed. So, [18:54] >> all right. [18:55] So [18:58] with that, we'll go ahead and move on to [19:01] our next public hearing. It's an [19:03] ordinance municipal officers [19:06] compensation adjustment. So Mr. Nelson, [19:09] I'll turn the time over to you. [19:18] » Okay. Thank you, Mayor. um as part of uh [19:22] Utah code uh se section 10-3-818 [19:26] that was um made into law appro three [19:30] year went into effect three years ago. [19:32] So this will be the third year that [19:34] we've been required to present this [19:36] information. Um we are we're required to [19:39] present um the certain officers of uh [19:43] the city uh within [19:46] um a separate agenda item and and [19:49] exhibit and uh the item the people who [19:54] are I shouldn't say the people the [19:56] employees who are listed within this uh [19:58] fall within uh what we deem to be uh [20:01] officers um executive officers of the [20:05] organization and listing the proposed [20:08] increase for the upcoming fiscal year uh [20:11] in relation to any merit increases or [20:14] market increases. Um and as you can see [20:18] uh through here um [20:21] all are at 3% [20:29] um for their a merit increase. that's [20:31] what has been budgeted and then all all [20:34] are zero as far as a market increase in [20:37] relation to that. Um just to and and [20:40] part of that law was to make sure that [20:42] there was transparency in uh executive [20:45] management since executive management [20:47] has some level of control over over the [20:50] wages. Um so this way it was um uh shown [20:55] to everybody what the budgeted intent [20:57] was. Um there this particular element [21:01] there's there's nothing inconsistent [21:03] with what we normally do. Um as far as [21:06] budgetarily speaking goes. Um and as far [21:09] as wages go uh for all of our all of the [21:12] individuals who either don't qualify as [21:14] officers or are in the STEP programs. Uh [21:17] those are just part of our normal [21:18] budgeting procedures and are part of the [21:20] budget as well and and have been [21:22] budgeted at the same whatever their step [21:25] is. I believe almost all of those are at [21:27] 3% but um whatever those step that step [21:30] program is for individuals uh those are [21:33] also budgeted as well. So I just thought [21:35] I'd better uh make sure that uh that's [21:37] understood that this is not [21:39] all-inclusive list of every employee. It [21:42] is only those people who are deemed to [21:44] be municipal officers. [21:47] >> Right. Thank you council. Do you have [21:49] any questions? [21:51] All right. This Oh, okay. Um, Council [21:54] Member Mikum. [21:57] » So, talk to me about the difference [21:58] between merit increase and market [21:59] increase. Uh, I'm I'm just curious as to [22:02] whether a cost of living adjustments um [22:05] are reflected in the market increase as [22:08] zero or if they are um potentially in [22:11] some other place. [22:13] >> So, so we don't do colas. [22:15] um we simply look at the uh what we [22:20] intend to provide as far as a a merit. [22:24] So there each employees um what what [22:28] they providing to the organization and [22:30] determine uh a this isn't necessarily [22:33] what they would get. it's a if you will [22:36] a maximum uh we in I say that obviously [22:40] we generally intend to give that u but [22:43] there may be a case where that's not you [22:45] know case obviously if one of the [22:48] employees is listed here for instance [22:49] was to leave the organization prior to [22:51] that then those budget those budgeted [22:54] dollars are available for other needs [22:56] potentially um but if they were here [22:59] then uh there's every intent um to [23:01] potentially provide that level of a [23:04] merit increase [23:06] um market is based on comparative to [23:10] other uh entities and positions outside [23:13] of the organization and where that [23:15] particular uh type of work might fall. [23:18] Um so if you're talking about a um [23:21] accountant or an engineer um potentially [23:24] the market for those particular [23:25] positions maybe at a given time is [23:27] higher. Um and so you you potentially [23:30] could provide a market increase in [23:32] relation to those specific positions. Um [23:35] and so that's what those two different [23:38] is between that. Uh I'm not sure how to [23:41] necessarily address [23:44] that that makes sense to me. the so what [23:47] I'm in inferring from what you've said [23:49] is that because we don't do cost of [23:51] living increases that um the proposed [23:55] merit increase would be a 3% that would [23:58] be the potential salary increase for [24:01] these officers. Uh there's not an [24:02] additional amount that would be [24:04] somewhere else. Okay. [24:05] >> Correct. And we we do budget um for a [24:08] mid-year adjustment as we look at every [24:11] single position. Um those there's a 1% [24:14] set aside for a when we look go out and [24:18] look. So identifying in relation to [24:20] market uh for specific positions. So [24:23] that's not a general across the board. [24:25] It's it's evaluated by every single [24:28] position. And so then those funds become [24:29] available at that midyear mark to fund [24:32] that. [24:36] All right. Thank you. Are there any [24:37] other questions? [24:39] Seeing none, um I this is a public [24:41] hearing and so I'm going to go ahead and [24:43] open the public hearing for this [24:45] ordinance on municipal officers [24:46] compensation adjustments. So if you've [24:49] come to speak to this, please come [24:50] forward and and share your thoughts. [24:58] Appears nobody wants to share their [25:00] thoughts about municipal officers [25:02] compensation adjustments. So go ahead [25:03] and close the public hearing and bring [25:05] it back to the council. This this [25:07] particular item council does require an [25:10] action on um from us. [25:20] Do you want a motion? [25:21] >> I would love a motion. [25:23] >> I'll do it. I move that the city council [25:25] of the city of Orm enact the [25:26] compensation increases for the specific [25:28] city officers as contained in exhibit A [25:30] and adopt these compensation adjustments [25:32] as part of the adopted fiscal year 2026 [25:34] 2027 tenative interim budget. All right. [25:38] Thank you. We have a motion. Is there a [25:39] second? [25:41] >> I will second that. [25:43] >> All right. Thank you, Council Member [25:44] Mikum. Is there further discussion? [25:46] Council. [25:49] All right. Um how do you vote? Council [25:50] member Mulestein. [25:52] I [25:53] >> I [25:58] >> All right, motion carries. Thank you. [26:01] Um, next item on the agenda is a [26:04] proposed property tax increase [26:07] statement. [26:08] And so this does not require action [26:10] council. It's just that our um Brandon [26:13] Nelson, our chief financial officer, is [26:14] going to make a statement. [26:17] So I took the time over to you to state. [26:19] >> Yes. So under new uh uh state law uh [26:23] anytime there is a budget discussion um [26:27] that regards that has a property tax [26:29] increase component to it, I am required [26:32] to notify everyone here that the item [26:35] that we are going to be discussing as [26:37] far as the fiscal 2627 budget has a [26:41] property tax increase in it. And that's [26:44] really all that I'm required to stay for [26:46] that particular element agenda. [26:48] >> All right. he has stated. [26:50] So with that we'll go on to item 4.5. [26:56] He is going to state something else [26:58] proposed property tax increase impact [27:00] schedule. So go ahead and state. [27:04] >> All right. So uh as part of uh the [27:07] discussion in relation to a property tax [27:10] increase uh we have prepared um based on [27:14] uh the state law the required elements [27:17] to be addressed um within this uh [27:20] property tax impact schedule. Um as part [27:23] of that schedule uh you'll see that uh [27:26] we are proposing a rate increase um [27:28] above the certified um tax rate which is [27:32] the current fiscal year or current 2025 [27:37] certified tax rate uh as we have not yet [27:40] received um the 2026 certified tax rate. [27:45] The they state tax commission and the [27:47] county and the auditor have basically [27:49] until June 22nd to provide that. um [27:52] they're they are working I've received [27:54] emails and they are working diligently [27:55] to try to get it prior to that date, but [27:58] obviously not in time for this meeting. [28:00] So therefore, all we can do is provide [28:02] an approximation of uh what that might [28:06] look like. Uh and based on the amount of [28:08] money, the $450,000 [28:11] being requested uh for property tax uh [28:13] revenue increase, uh you can see the the [28:16] proposed uh change above that certified [28:19] tax rate from 00603 to 00645. [28:24] Um and as part of that, you can see the [28:27] associated um uh revenue that was [28:30] budgeted was the 6.4 million. That was [28:33] an an [clears throat] estimated amount. [28:34] And then uh just below that you can see [28:37] the 6.864 million which equates to the [28:40] $450,000 [28:42] increase. The estimated increase um in [28:46] that uh property tax rate above the [28:50] certified tax rate is 7.02%. [28:53] >> And that is just for the ORM city [28:55] portion. [28:56] >> This correct the entire property on [28:58] one's entire property tax bill. [29:00] >> Correct. It would be just the city's [29:02] component uh piece. Sorry for [29:03] interrupting your state. [29:04] >> Property tax bill. Yeah. [29:06] >> And I want to interrupt too. The the [29:08] percentage [29:09] that this will be of their property tax [29:13] total property tax bill. Do you remember [29:15] was it 07? [29:17] >> It was like nine. [29:19] >> Where's the You know what I'm trying to [29:20] say? [29:20] >> Yeah, I know. But I don't know what [29:21] >> you gave that six months and I'm trying [29:23] it was okay. You don't have that written [29:25] down. I don't. But just to the point [29:26] that the mayor's making is that the [29:30] majority of the property tax dollars [29:33] collected, we are but a small percentage [29:36] of that. [29:37] >> Yeah. The city's portion of your [29:39] property tax bill is approximately 13 [29:42] 14%. [29:43] total property tax [29:45] >> because the other taxing entities are [29:46] the school district, the water, [29:49] the county, the [29:50] >> Yeah. So this is that 7.02 102 is in [29:53] relation only to the city's piece of the property tax bill. [30:03] As part of uh uh the transparency, uh we [30:07] also are required to provide you with an [30:10] estimate based on uh the average um [30:14] primary residential value of 513,000 [30:17] that comes from the that number amount [30:20] comes from the county. So, not something [30:22] I just pick out of thin air. Um, the [30:24] county provides that and the associated [30:27] uh with that associated tax increase in [30:29] the rate, the increase in the rate, that [30:31] would equate to an $11.85 [30:35] annual increase to a property valued at [30:38] 513,000, which you can see equates to a [30:42] 6.97% [30:43] increase. [30:45] um associated the commercial [30:48] establishment valued at 513,000 [30:51] would see an increase of $2757 [30:55] annually and again that's an 8.91% [31:00] increase um for a business valued at [31:03] that 513,000. [31:06] Um, part of this is also identifying [31:08] what is that $450,000 [31:10] requested um increase going to and the [31:14] intent here is to fund uh two police [31:17] officers uh and their associated all of [31:21] the associated uh vehicles and equipment [31:23] in relation to uh fully outfitting those [31:26] two officers. [31:28] Are there any questions about any of [31:30] those items that I've mentioned? [31:32] >> I just have a question with this [31:33] intention. This is where the money would [31:36] have to go. We can't as a council, not I [31:38] have absolutely no intention or [31:40] anything, but I know that there have [31:41] been questions of could the city council [31:45] as a council vote to have it go [31:46] somewhere else if it were to be enacted. [31:48] It has to go for this because you've [31:49] stated this is the intent of what it is, [31:52] how much it is, and where it's going to [31:53] go. Is that correct? [31:54] >> That is correct. [31:55] >> Okay. [31:56] >> Yep. If if we were to move forward and [31:58] try to use something else for that those [32:02] funds, then they would deem that as, you [32:04] know, not following what what we've [32:07] indicated we're going to do and they can [32:09] pull it back potentially. [32:12] >> All right. Thank you. [32:15] All right. Anybody other comments? Thank [32:18] you for your Oh, do you have Okay, [32:19] >> one brief comment. So, um I I think this [32:23] was implicit in what you said, Brandon, [32:25] but I I just want to repeat it uh to [32:27] ensure that I'm I'm correct. Uh so, for [32:32] what we think is an average [32:34] primary residence value of about [32:36] $500,000, [32:39] uh the implication of that for a [32:41] taxpayer in that category would be uh $1 [32:45] a month essentially. [32:47] >> That's correct. [32:48] >> Uh slightly less than $1 a month. um or [32:52] um annually less than the cost of a [32:54] movie theater ticket every place besides [32:56] the Sarah. [32:58] >> Right. Right. Okay. [33:02] All right. [33:04] With that, thank you for stating your [33:07] statements [33:08] and we're going to move on to item 4.6. [33:13] It's a resolution the creation of public [33:15] safety special revenue fund and [33:17] statement of intent to dedicate the [33:19] general operations portion of property [33:22] tax to public safety. And so council, at [33:26] some point this is going to require an [33:28] action and we'll turn the time over to [33:30] um Brandon Nelson. [33:35] » Thank you mayor. Um, as we've discussed [33:38] uh several times, um the fiscal 2627 [33:42] budget um does contain the separation [33:45] and creation of a new special revenue [33:48] fund. Um there was some confusion in [33:51] relation to the May 12th tentative [33:53] meeting as far as the resolution that [33:55] was associated with that. Um that [33:57] resolution was simply uh intended to be [34:01] uh indicator [34:03] of what was uh in intended to happen uh [34:07] in the meeting uh today. So in the [34:10] meeting today um what is being requested [34:13] is um a two totally separate items. [34:20] One is the creation of a special revenue [34:22] fund [34:24] for public safety and that all [34:28] associated revenues and costs would be [34:31] placed within that special revenue fund. [34:35] Separately from that approval is a [34:39] statement in the resolution that states [34:43] the intention [34:45] of the city council to approve the [34:48] dedication of the city's property tax [34:51] levy to that newly created special [34:55] public safety special revenue fund. That [34:59] intention is the reason it's an [35:01] intention is because we if we move [35:04] forward with a property tax increase [35:08] proposed that meeting is in a on August [35:12] 27th and so property taxes would not be [35:16] that levy would not be set until that [35:19] August 27th meeting. Therefore, [35:22] the intent is to go to that meeting to [35:25] approve not only a potential property [35:28] tax increase, but approve the full levy [35:31] and and the dedication of those property [35:34] taxes towards that public safety special [35:38] revenue fund. [35:40] Those this that's a separate item from [35:44] the creation of the special revenue [35:46] fund. [35:47] >> So, can I just ask a quick question? [35:48] >> You bet. [35:50] So, this this resolution in our packet [35:53] creates the special the public safety [35:54] special revenue fund. I want to make [35:56] sure I understand creates that fund and [35:59] then states the intention that we will [36:02] be putting the regular general [36:05] operations property tax levy into that [36:08] new fund. But we can't do that until [36:11] after the truth and taxation hearing on [36:13] until we find out whether the council [36:15] approves or denies the property tax [36:17] increase. [36:17] >> Correct. Okay. Thank you. [36:20] >> And so just then kind of back up a [36:22] little bit. So what why are we [36:24] interested in uh creating a special [36:26] revenue fund? So number one is we feel [36:29] like that it provides a a better [36:32] transparency for what the cost of our public safety is and it specifically [36:37] outlines those the revenues associated [36:40] with them as well as the cost all of the [36:43] costs associated with the public safety. [36:47] um departments. Um as part of that, if [36:52] we were to move forward with dedicating [36:54] the city's property tax to public [36:57] safety, then it is required that we have [37:00] a special revenue fund to account for [37:04] those dollars. [37:06] But that does not mean we can't have a [37:09] special revenue fund even if those [37:11] dollars are not dedicated. So you could [37:14] still create a special revenue similar [37:16] to what we've done with our development [37:18] fees fund where we separated out all of [37:21] those items related to building permits [37:25] and planning and that those are [37:27] separated into a specific fund so that [37:30] we can see what the costs associated [37:33] with providing those services are. So [37:36] they're very similar in that nature. [37:40] Um [37:46] just to give an idea. So currently as of [37:50] fiscal 26 um the total u budget for fire [37:56] and police within that fund is just a [37:59] little over $38 million. [38:02] $38.1 million. [38:04] Uh the property tax that we're [38:06] discussing is approximately estimated to [38:09] be 8.1 million. [38:12] Obviously, there is a rather large [38:14] discrepancy between those two. Uh I know [38:18] there has been some concern about well, [38:22] you're just going to raise a property [38:23] tax to cover that $38.1 million. [38:27] Number one, if that were to occur, that [38:30] would take a very, very, very long time [38:34] to get to that point. [38:37] Number two, we understand that that [38:39] isn't really that's not our goal. But [38:42] the goal is to provide some level of [38:44] stability to our public safety from one [38:48] of our most consistent and dedicated [38:52] sources of revenue. that does not vary [38:56] based upon the economy. We receive the [39:00] same amount of tax dollars from property [39:02] tax every year without us doing [39:05] anything. So when it's set, we get the [39:08] same amount irregardless of how the [39:10] economy is doing. So it's a stable [39:13] source in relation to one of one of our [39:16] core services of the city. So, we would [39:19] like to bolster as much as possible the [39:23] relationship between that property tax [39:26] and our public safety um departments [39:38] as part of the the timeline. Just to [39:40] give an idea, obviously we had the our [39:42] tenative budget discussion on May 12th. [39:44] Um, which again we outlined the the [39:47] intention to want to move ahead with [39:49] creation of the special revenue fund and [39:51] dedicating the tax. This resolution puts [39:54] that more into line and spells out [39:56] exactly what we would be doing as far as [39:58] what I've already discussed as far as [40:00] whether to create that. Um it was [40:03] brought up the the special revenue fund [40:06] while we would we would love for that to [40:07] be approved tonight um that's not a [40:11] requirement it could be uh along with [40:13] the dedication of the um property tax in [40:17] August that special revenue fund you [40:19] could go ahead and and wait and create [40:22] that um as part of the August meeting as [40:26] well. um we would prefer to at least [40:28] have the fund created um now um whether [40:32] it's funded or not. That that is a [40:35] different story. Um and can be [40:37] determined upon adoption of the final [40:39] budget in August if if necessary. [40:46] As mentioned, uh this meeting is to [40:48] discuss those things and we've talked [40:50] about uh the various things related to [40:53] the property tax increase and that's all [40:55] that this uh slide is is indicating is [40:59] those things that I just mentioned in [41:00] that property tax impact statement. [41:04] And then uh as mentioned at the TNT [41:08] meeting on August 27th of this year, we [41:11] would be discussing um not only the [41:14] property tax increase and and whether to [41:16] approve that or not approve that [41:17] increase, but we'd also be discussing [41:19] the dedication of the city's general [41:22] operations property tax in that meeting [41:24] and whether we would be dedicating that [41:27] um to public safety or not. as well as [41:30] the um discussion um around uh [41:35] the special revenue fund potentially. [41:40] » That's all I have in [41:41] >> All right. Thank you, council. Any [41:44] questions? Council member Millet, [41:47] >> some comments and questions. Um your [41:49] first slide, will you go to that, [41:50] please? [41:55] » Yeah, let's see. Where did I see this? [41:57] Um, [41:59] okay. So, although we are legally [42:02] restricting all property tax collected [42:04] into this fund to public safety, we are [42:07] not clarify for me this please and [42:10] Steve. We are not tying the hands of [42:12] future councils [42:14] to this is a decision that will be made [42:16] every year based through our budgeting [42:18] process. This is not an automatic. This [42:21] is something that is always considered. [42:23] But what this fund does is this gives us [42:26] the opportunity to have more [42:27] transparency in where those funds are [42:31] going, that they are going to our public [42:33] safety. And that um not just the [42:36] property tax funds, but all of the [42:38] revenues that our public safety is [42:41] generating through contracts with other [42:43] cities, through um other licensing, [42:46] whatever we're doing. There's a whole [42:48] list, right? [42:49] um will go into that fund and will not [42:52] be absorbed into other to subsidize [42:55] other areas of our budget. Once again, [42:57] transparency saying we are funding our public safety and this is how we're [43:03] doing it and we're letting them those [43:05] revenues that they generate stay in [43:07] their um budget. [43:08] >> Correct. Is that correct? [43:09] >> Yeah. Let let me Is that fair? [43:11] >> Yeah. Let me let me make just restate [43:13] that. So, thank you for bringing that up [43:15] because I I did fail to mention that. Uh [43:17] yeah. So this in no way what if if we [43:20] were to move all of these things to a [43:22] special revenue fund and that property [43:25] tax and and you were to dedicate that [43:26] property tax that dedication occurs [43:30] every year. Every year you pass a budget [43:35] you are dedicating the property tax as you would like to see it dedicated. [43:41] Whether that's to the special revenue [43:43] fund or if you wanted to then move it [43:46] back to the general fund and and place [43:48] it there, you have the ability to make [43:50] that change. And then again each year [43:55] you could also potentially if you had [43:57] moved that property that dedicated [43:59] property tax back to the general fund, [44:01] you could also discontinue the use of [44:03] the special revenue fund and you could [44:06] move all of the public safety back into [44:09] the general fund if that if you so [44:11] chose. Now obviously again the dedicated [44:14] piece of that makes the difference, [44:15] right? If you're going to continue to [44:16] dedicate that to public safety, it has [44:18] to stay separate. But if you were to [44:20] move it all back, you have that [44:22] flexibility andor the members after [44:25] yourselves always have that flexibility [44:28] >> because there are members of the public [44:29] who are comparing this to the [44:31] constitutional [44:32] um direction from the state income tax [44:37] to education. [44:38] >> Correct. [44:38] >> And this is not even close to that. [44:41] >> Not even close. [44:43] I just want to make that [44:45] clear because I have had a lot of people [44:47] say that to me. you are now [44:50] tying the hands of everybody into the [44:51] future. And I'm like, "No, no, no. [44:53] That's not it's not even." [44:56] >> And and that's why we pass a specific [44:58] ordinance specific to that fiscal year [45:02] each year is because each year you're [45:04] dedicating this is what it looks like [45:07] for this fiscal year. [45:08] >> And actually these people, same people, [45:10] I just say you're going to love this [45:11] because this is transparency in action. [45:14] >> Correct. This is where you will see [45:16] exactly money coming in staying with our [45:20] public safety and how frankly holding [45:24] them to account too with how they're [45:26] spending that money. [45:27] >> You bet. [45:27] >> It will be just a much more transparent [45:29] action. [45:30] >> That's our that's our feeling as well. [45:32] >> Okay. Thank you, Council Member Millet, [45:34] for for clarifying that you brought up [45:36] that's a good point to remember that it's not like the Constitution, the [45:40] state constitution, that this is [45:41] something that we have to look at every [45:43] year. But you also brought up another [45:44] good point and that is that if public [45:47] safety does receive additional funding [45:50] in other areas uh maybe for wildfire if [45:53] they've gone to fight wildfires or [45:55] contracts with other uh other [45:57] communities that that money goes into [46:00] this as well. So there's there's [46:02] accountability and and showing and [46:05] transparency saying what this is the [46:07] money that they brought in and this is [46:09] the and this is the funding that we'll [46:11] use going forward. So, thank you for [46:13] bringing that up. Appreciate it. [46:14] >> Yeah, Mark hates it when I tell him that [46:16] I'm using all of his fire inspection [46:18] money to buy my sodas every day. [46:20] >> Yeah. [laughter] [46:22] >> Joke joke, right? He's not laughing too [46:25] much over there, Brandon. [laughter] [46:27] All right, council. Are there any other [46:29] comments or questions? [46:31] >> I I just have a quick comment. Uh, [46:32] Brandon, thank you and staff, thank you [46:35] for bringing this forward. We've been [46:37] talking about this for a long time and a [46:40] lot of months and I think it just brings [46:41] a foundational continuity [46:44] uh to public safety um that I think is very important and one of the one of [46:49] our main responsibilities as a city uh [46:52] to provide public safety and uh I think [46:55] this is a great way of going about that. [46:57] So thank you. [46:59] >> Right. Thank you for your comments as [47:01] well about the responsibility of us as a [47:03] community providing those very basic [47:05] services. And so, all right, if there [47:08] are no other comments from the council [47:11] or questions, this is not a public [47:13] hearing, but if there's anybody who [47:14] would like to speak to this item, you're [47:16] welcome to come forward and do so. [47:23] Don't worry, I'm not going to stare [47:24] anybody down or anything. Okay. No, he's [47:26] like everybody's just happy where they [47:29] are. So, all right, bring that back to [47:31] the council. And like I said before, [47:33] council, this requires an action by us. [47:37] And so, uh, I would look for a motion. [47:40] So, I I would like to make this motion. [47:42] I would like to make one change. If [47:43] you'll note when I read this, and it's [47:46] on the funding portion. Um, so I move to [47:49] approve the resolution the creation of a [47:52] new public safety special revenue fund [47:54] to be included in the fiscal year 2026 [47:57] 2027 tenative budget and state that the [48:00] ORM city council is considering the [48:03] dedication of all of the city of ORM's [48:06] general regular operations property tax [48:08] levy for fiscal year 2026 2027 to this [48:12] new fund. [48:13] >> All right, thank you. I have a question [48:15] on that. is is intends is the word [48:17] intends something from the state law. Do [48:19] we have to use that? I I don't have a [48:21] problem. [48:22] >> Yeah. And that's just to clear up this [48:23] consider I I mean I've had several [48:25] people say you guys did this already. [48:27] We're not we're not voting on this till [48:28] August. [48:30] >> This is a two-part motion, too. [48:32] >> Yeah. So, you're you're you're free to [48:34] say that you intend to do it or you're [48:36] free to say that you're considering [48:38] anyway. [48:38] >> Okay. Thank you. I just wanted to make [48:40] sure like like um the statements that [48:43] Brandon had to do earlier that he it was [48:45] intend and I didn't know if it was going [48:47] to be used and it had to be used in the [48:48] same way. So all right council we have [48:50] that motion. Do you understand what the [48:52] proposed change is to the motion is [48:55] considering instead of the word intends [48:57] >> and also adding the fiscal 2026 2027 [49:01] okay property taxes [49:03] >> and Brandon you're comfortable with that [49:05] wording. [49:05] >> Mhm. [49:06] >> Okay. [49:08] >> All right. I have a motion. I will [49:09] second that. [49:10] >> We have a motion and a second. All [49:11] right. Any further discussion? Okay. [49:14] Council member Kilpac. [49:15] >> I I [49:18] >> I [49:22] >> All right. Thank you. Motion carries. [49:26] Next item on our agenda is a public [49:29] hearing regarding an ordinance adopting [49:32] fiscal year 2026 2027 tenative interim [49:36] budget. And we'll turn that time back [49:39] over to Mr. Nelson. And this will be an [49:42] action item, council. [49:53] First, we get to see some pretty faces [49:55] and beautiful mountains. [50:01] uh just to give you uh just a brief uh [50:05] touch on the calendar that we've gone [50:08] through. Um you can January we had our [50:11] council retreat had several work [50:13] sessions during the month of April and [50:14] the special work session even in May um [50:18] for various reasons and then uh our [50:21] tenative budget was presented to you on [50:23] May 12th. uh this public hearing um uh [50:26] to review the tenative budget on here on [50:29] June 9th and then a assuming uh we want [50:32] to move forward with truth and taxation [50:35] um a a meeting on August 27th has has [50:38] been reserved with the the county [50:41] auditor um to uh handle the property tax [50:45] increase uh proposal. [50:50] uh some brief budget highlights. Um [50:53] obvious mentioned before the the [50:56] increase in the budget of some 35 [50:58] million and we'll go into that why it's [51:00] 35 million has a lot to do with that [51:02] public safety fund that we were just [51:04] discussing and I I've hopefully created [51:08] some slides to help better understand [51:10] that as well. Um it funds all of the [51:13] city's compensation programs as well as [51:16] um benefits and uh provides uh I [51:19] mentioned some funds set aside for [51:21] market adjust targeted market [51:23] adjustments and then uh funds all of our [51:26] fleet replacement needs as well as um a [51:29] large amount of capital project um [51:32] requirements. [51:36] Just as a general large picture, high level budget of the review, you can [51:42] see the the bottom right corner, the [51:45] change from 177 million to 211 million. [51:48] Uh you'll notice that second line item [51:50] to the bottom is related to the public [51:53] service fund because it is a separate [51:55] fund and we still want to fund as I [51:57] mentioned the property tax won't cover [52:00] and as well as their other revenues [52:02] won't cover the entire cost of the [52:04] public safety um it will will require a [52:08] transfer from the general fund to the [52:10] public safety fund of appro just a [52:13] little over $25 million. [52:16] because of that transfer, [52:18] you know, out of that what $34 million, [52:22] 25 million of is related to that one [52:24] thing alone. Um, you can see on the [52:28] second to the top line, the the tax [52:30] increase, the property tax increase that [52:32] uh we are proposing and has been [52:34] proposed. Um, just to give you an idea [52:37] of that. um associated with the public [52:40] safety fund. It also includes um various [52:43] transfers related to uh services being [52:46] provided by uh other internal whether [52:49] that's our information technology or IT [52:52] whether it's facilities whether it's um [52:54] accounting whether it's any of those [52:58] insurance etc those are accounted for as [53:00] part of uh that transfers line and so [53:03] that's why you also see a an increase in [53:05] that element as [53:12] Just to give you an idea of, you know, [53:15] how the funds break down in relation to [53:18] what you might term new revenues in the [53:21] first column by each of our larger [53:24] funds. uh and what are associated with [53:27] transfers in to those funds as well as [53:31] uh if we are appropriating any fund [53:33] balances um and using those fund [53:36] balances to to fund something within [53:38] each of those funds. [53:41] Are there any questions about that? Just [53:43] kind of gives you an idea that out of [53:45] that 211 million, you know, a large [53:48] portion of that is not new revenue, [53:50] right? It's just moving money between [53:53] different funds. And so that's an [53:54] important element to also remember as we [53:56] go through there. [54:00] And I hate to say that's an accounting [54:02] thing, but it is. [54:06] Um, now moving on to specifically our [54:08] general fund. Uh, the the general fund. [54:11] You can see the uh revenues there, and [54:14] you can see how they're they're [54:15] relatively stable. And and I should [54:16] mention, you notice that up at the top, [54:18] I've removed all the revenues associated [54:20] with public safety across all of those [54:22] years. so that we have a compar as [54:26] comparable as possible at this point uh [54:28] across those years for the general fund. [54:31] Um and you can see uh those transfers in [54:34] which again are primarily related to uh [54:38] various elements that uh are those [54:41] people exist within the general fund but [54:45] they do work for all of the other funds. [54:48] whether that be the public safety fund, [54:50] whether that be the water fund, whether [54:51] that be the sewer fund. And so that's uh [54:54] an accounting for those charges um for [54:58] those services. [55:04] Just to give you an idea of where does [55:06] the general fund primarily receive its [55:10] uh revenues from. Um and again I I'll [55:13] note the notation up at the top just to [55:16] give you an idea of the change that [55:18] occurred because of if we of moving the [55:21] public safety fund into its own fund and [55:23] the largest being of course the charges [55:26] for services line um as uh our contract [55:30] with Lynen and Vineyard as well as um a [55:34] couple of other items. those charges, [55:36] fire inspections, those charges um [55:39] because they're removed, you can see the [55:41] drop in the percentage of that revenue [55:43] associated um with the total revenue of [55:46] the general fund [55:48] and how that then increases the sales [55:54] and franchise tax components in relation [55:58] to the general fund as well. [56:05] just briefly uh you know the sales tax [56:08] we've we've had some discussions [56:09] obviously previously on that nothing has [56:11] changed my current estimate uh for [56:14] fiscal 26 is a 3% increase uh for the [56:18] year and then a proposed that fiscal 27 [56:20] proposed is a 3% increase on top of [56:24] where I think fiscal 26 will end. Um [56:28] there's so far been nothing indicating [56:31] to me that we would be too terribly far [56:33] off from either of those um particularly [56:36] in relation to the fiscal year 26 um at [56:39] 3% estimate. [56:45] uh just give you an idea of related to [56:47] some of the other um revenues associated [56:50] with either the general fund in relation [56:52] to business licenses or we talked [56:54] briefly about building permits in that [56:56] development fees fund. Um and you can [56:58] see we don't really anticipate much [57:01] change in either of those revenue [57:03] sources um going into next year. [57:10] Um some other general fund items that [57:12] are uh of importance to that fund. Uh [57:16] interest earnings will decrease slightly [57:18] for various reasons. Interest rates [57:22] despite them maybe being up recently. [57:24] The earnings that we receive are either [57:27] the same or lower than what they had [57:29] been. Um our our justice court just uh [57:33] stays the same as well as you can see [57:34] cemetery lot sales. We don't anticipate [57:37] much change um in in that one as well. [57:43] Any before we go on to expenditure, are [57:45] there any questions about any of that [57:47] revenue stuff that I've been discussing? [57:49] >> Council, any questions? Council member [57:51] Mikum. [57:52] >> Um I do just have a couple of clarifying [57:54] questions. Uh Ring, can you go back to [57:57] the um [58:00] place where you talked about chart? Oh, [58:02] we can start there. um fiscal year 25 [58:06] versus fiscal year 26. I know that we [58:08] don't have the final numbers for 26 yet [58:10] because it's not over, [58:12] but uh based on our current estimates, [58:14] you think that we have receive we will [58:19] receive more by the end of fiscal year [58:20] 26 in sales tax revenue than we did in [58:22] 25 [58:23] >> by by a couple of percent [58:25] >> by 3% [58:25] >> by about 3%. [58:27] >> And um we have enough information to [58:30] make that estimate. Uh [58:33] I'm at we are at 2.9 right now. [58:36] >> Okay. [58:37] >> And that's so we received the May [58:39] distribution or the May distribution is [58:42] for sales through March. [58:45] So I have 9 months worth of data. I'm [58:49] making my best bet estimate of the [58:53] remaining three months. and based on how [58:55] we've been going from month to month [58:58] that yes, I feel relatively confident [59:00] that we would be at at near that 3% uh [59:04] mark. [59:05] >> Okay. So, I mean it's relatively good [59:07] news that u that it's it's growing. Can [59:10] you go back also to the slide where [59:12] you're talking about how the charge for [59:13] services has changed? This one this one [59:16] right here. Uh you briefly described [59:18] that, but I'm not sure I fully [59:20] understand why uh that is changing [59:23] significantly. budget. So the fiscal 26 [59:25] column is what it was with public safety [59:30] included. [59:32] So that 8.479 [59:35] million [59:37] excludes [59:39] items that would have been included if [59:42] the public safety fund had been [59:44] included. It would have been a [59:45] significantly higher amount [59:47] approximately 14 millionish [59:50] um if it had been included. So, so those monies are going to go into the [59:55] special revenue fund rather than the [59:57] general fund. And so that's what what [59:59] you're calculating, [1:00:00] >> right? Thanks. Yep. You bet. [1:00:04] >> Want to describe what those are? [1:00:06] >> Yeah. And I and we will the one right [1:00:08] after talking about the general fund is [1:00:10] our public safety fund. So we will [1:00:12] discuss those in a little more detail. [1:00:13] >> All right. Any other questions right [1:00:15] now? [1:00:16] >> All right. Thank you. All right. [1:00:18] >> Go on. [1:00:19] >> Got to do expenditures first, don't we? [1:00:21] So, just to give you an idea of a [1:00:22] breakdown in the general is citywide. [1:00:25] So, citywide, we're going back to the [1:00:26] top here. [1:00:28] Where where do citywide where is all of [1:00:31] the money that $211 million, where is [1:00:34] that spent? Uh you can see a large [1:00:37] portion of that is spent in personnel. [1:00:40] However, you'll notice that the [1:00:42] percentage of that personnel in relation [1:00:44] to the total is a little different, but [1:00:46] you can see uh operations and and later [1:00:49] on we'll uh break down operations a [1:00:52] little bit more. And then the c capital [1:00:54] component, whether they be uh equipment, [1:00:57] vehicles or projects. Uh a large portion [1:01:01] of that capital is related to of course [1:01:03] our utility funds uh and which you will [1:01:05] see in a little bit as well. [1:01:11] So just to give an idea of again how do [1:01:14] expenditures break down by fund. Uh you [1:01:18] can look in there and see you know where are all those personnel where do [1:01:23] they reside um how are those operations [1:01:26] where do who's spending all that [1:01:28] operational money and where does that [1:01:31] capital uh come from in relation to [1:01:33] those individual funds. So this is just [1:01:35] a global picture to kind of have an idea [1:01:37] of this the size and where those dollars [1:01:40] come from. [1:01:47] As I mentioned uh breaking down that [1:01:49] operational component uh there was a [1:01:51] concern last time when we talked about [1:01:53] the tenative budget um when we were [1:01:56] looking at this slide and we were [1:01:57] looking at that general fund $43.6 [1:02:00] million. [1:02:02] Well, and any of these to be honest with [1:02:04] you, well, what what makes up those [1:02:06] operational components? And so I I I [1:02:09] added this slide here to try to give a [1:02:12] better picture uh for what those [1:02:15] operational components are. So, similar [1:02:18] to what we talked about with revenues, [1:02:20] that operations column are actual costs, [1:02:23] things that that actually that fund [1:02:25] spends on specific things. Um you can re [1:02:29] see that within that operational um [1:02:32] expenditure item there was debt of some [1:02:34] almost $11 million that is part of that [1:02:37] and then transfers out which we we've [1:02:40] discussed um and you can see the 37 [1:02:42] million. And so out of that general [1:02:43] fund, out of that $43 million, [1:02:46] almost $38 million of that is related to [1:02:50] transfers out of which 25 million of [1:02:53] that is related to the public safety [1:02:55] fund and is is moving to that fund. So [1:02:59] the general fund just like we talked [1:03:01] about with the public safety fund also [1:03:03] pays for various services and different [1:03:06] uh elements and a large portion of that [1:03:09] debt service also is a transfer out from [1:03:12] the general fund for Utopia [1:03:16] as well as the 2024 sales tax revenue [1:03:19] bond. So that money is a is transferred [1:03:21] out of the general fund into the debt [1:03:24] service fund which is the fund that [1:03:26] actually pays for that debt. [1:03:29] But that increases that transfers out, [1:03:32] right? So, so that's an important thing [1:03:34] to keep in mind that 54 almost 55 [1:03:37] million in transfers out is a transfer [1:03:41] of money between funds to cover various [1:03:44] costs. And so, please keep that in mind [1:03:47] as you have discussions with [1:03:49] constituents or you think about that um [1:03:51] for yourself in relation to that big [1:03:54] picture 211 million and that big change. [1:03:57] Um uh and you're welcome obviously to [1:03:59] contact me. I really again yes that is accounting [clears throat] and I [1:04:06] um we follow GAP and the way u we're [1:04:09] required to under accounting standards [1:04:11] and unfortunately sometimes that can [1:04:14] lead to a little bit of confusion as to [1:04:16] how those um have to transpire in [1:04:19] government fund accounting. Um so please [1:04:22] keep that in mind. [1:04:29] Um, I just touched briefly on some of [1:04:32] the general fund additions. We're we're [1:04:33] adding in an attorney into the [1:04:35] attorney's office. Um, as well as an [1:04:38] urban a technician in the urban forestry [1:04:40] division. Um, and then within [1:04:42] operations, uh, we mentioned Podium, [1:04:45] which is a software that we use that had [1:04:47] been uh, being funded with ARPA funds [1:04:49] and those funds are no longer available. [1:04:51] So, we like Podium and want to continue [1:04:53] using it. So, we had needed to add move [1:04:56] those dollars and uh find a way to pay [1:04:58] for those. Um, as well as uh increasing [1:05:01] uh our youth council dollars so that uh [1:05:03] our youth that you you saw I believe [1:05:05] here uh in the council meeting or two [1:05:08] ago uh can continue to uh learn and [1:05:11] enjoy the uh being part of the [1:05:13] government uh arena. [1:05:16] Uh we we touched on at the very [1:05:18] beginning uh cost of fleet replacements. [1:05:21] Um you can see the comparison for this [1:05:23] year as opposed to the prior year. Um [1:05:26] and then in down at the bottom uh our [1:05:29] general and public safety uh fund [1:05:31] breakdown as opposed to our various [1:05:33] utility and road funds um and the [1:05:36] vehicles associated with that and and we [1:05:38] had a a work session where we discussed [1:05:41] a little more of the details of what [1:05:42] those vehicles are. But this does [1:05:45] hopefully give you some idea as to where [1:05:47] those dollars are uh being spent within [1:05:49] a general category. [1:05:55] Okay, now we get to the public safety [1:05:57] fund that I mentioned. Um so you can see [1:05:59] a breakdown here um what was being [1:06:01] proposed as far as uh where those [1:06:04] revenues for the public safety uh that [1:06:06] new public safety fund would be coming [1:06:08] from. You can see the property tax that [1:06:09] would be the dedicated property tax item [1:06:12] as well as the proposed increase. Um [1:06:16] there are grants that we receive. We [1:06:18] budget, we don't generally budget for [1:06:20] grants. Um but there are two grants for [1:06:22] public safety. Um one within the ta the [1:06:25] um task force um for Haida grant that's [1:06:28] from the federal government that is [1:06:30] budgeted because we have received it [1:06:33] every year since like every year I've [1:06:35] been here. And and then there's also [1:06:38] what's called a liquor allotment which [1:06:40] is also something from the is from the [1:06:42] state and and we receive something from [1:06:44] that aotment every year as well. So we [1:06:47] feel pretty confident in receiving [1:06:48] those. So therefore we go ahead and and [1:06:50] budget those. Uh council member Millet [1:06:54] mentioned charges for services and the [1:06:56] breakdown. Uh I wanted to that 6.2 [1:06:58] million. So you can uh see down across [1:07:01] the bottom um identifying kind of the [1:07:04] majority those those four items make up [1:07:07] probably 90% of that $6.2 million. [1:07:12] Um and and there are some other smaller [1:07:15] uh elements within that but those are [1:07:17] the the big hitters within that category [1:07:19] of revenue. uh and especially once you [1:07:22] pull out ambulance uh you can see that [1:07:25] the size of uh ambulance revenues that [1:07:27] we receive from those services. Uh [1:07:29] within the fees and fines uh the largest [1:07:32] element in there is fire inspection [1:07:33] fees. So the the about 470ish million of [1:07:38] that 533 is related to fire inspection [1:07:41] fees. And then again, the the transfers [1:07:44] in out the bottom that coming from the [1:07:46] general fund to fund the remaining [1:07:49] amount needed to fund the special [1:07:51] revenue, the public safety special [1:07:53] revenue fund. [gasps] [1:07:54] There any questions about that? [1:07:59] Fantastic. [1:08:06] talking about property taxes. Just a [1:08:09] simple chart to kind of give you an idea [1:08:11] of uh what our property tax that the far [1:08:14] right one obviously include includes the [1:08:18] proposed property tax increase. Um and [1:08:21] um there is an est there's some big [1:08:24] estimates that go on here. So if when we [1:08:26] receive the actual um certified tax rate [1:08:29] an associated budgetary revenue that may [1:08:32] require an adjustment uh and we have [1:08:36] within our budget uh the uh a [1:08:39] contingency. So if I need to adjust that [1:08:42] property tax amount then we would [1:08:44] replace that uh up or down in relation [1:08:47] to that contingency account. [1:08:53] » You bet. [1:08:54] >> Okay. So would you just once again I [1:08:56] keep I get all these questions so I just [1:08:58] would like to have you clarify it at [1:09:00] this time. So our certified tax rate we [1:09:02] don't know what that is yet. [1:09:03] >> Correct. [1:09:04] >> We have the one from before last year. [1:09:06] >> We anticipate that it will be lower. [1:09:08] >> Yes. [1:09:08] >> And so we are um transparently saying [1:09:12] >> um it's going we're it we're going to be [1:09:14] higher than it was last year. [1:09:17] >> Correct. So whatever that certified tax [1:09:20] the certified tax rate the reason we [1:09:22] think it will go down is because we [1:09:23] think property values generally will [1:09:25] either be the same or probably increase. [1:09:28] So therefore when property taxes [1:09:30] property values increase the rate goes [1:09:34] down. [1:09:35] When the rate goes down, we don't know [1:09:37] exactly what that is yet, but we will be [1:09:39] setting a rate higher than that rate [1:09:43] only to produce $450,000. [1:09:48] So, whatever it t whatever that rate [1:09:50] needs to adjust to to create $450,000 [1:09:55] is what that rate that we would come to [1:09:58] you to set. And the reason there's that [1:10:00] inverse relationship is because of the [1:10:03] way the state of Utah [1:10:06] um does our I don't know how to say it [1:10:08] budgets I mean does [1:10:10] >> we are different than every other state. [1:10:12] So if just as a very simple example if [1:10:14] the city were to receive let's use [1:10:16] fiscal year 26 estimate if we were to [1:10:19] budgeted to receive $7.8 million in that [1:10:23] year fiscal 27 we get $7.8 8 million. [1:10:29] That does not account for new growth. So [1:10:32] if there are any new, you know, across [1:10:35] the street here, we tore down a Burger [1:10:37] King and building a raising canes. [1:10:38] That's got to be worth a heck of a lot [1:10:40] more than Burger King. No, [1:10:44] » eat more chicken. No, [1:10:46] >> Home Depot is probably a better better [1:10:48] point, right? when Home Depot is up and [1:10:50] operational, the the property tax value [1:10:52] of that property will increase um [1:10:55] dramatic quite a bit. You know, that [1:10:57] would not be accounted for as part of [1:10:59] that 7.8 million. We would receive that [1:11:02] additional property tax on top of that. [1:11:05] now would become the new base. So, [1:11:08] let's just say it was 200,000. So, now [1:11:10] our new base would be $8 million going [1:11:12] forward. I'm very very simplifying it. [1:11:15] is it is a very complicated thing [1:11:18] that the county and state tax commission [1:11:20] go through. [1:11:20] >> That's just to give us stability in our [1:11:22] budgeting. [1:11:22] >> Correct. So that whether values go up or [1:11:26] values go down doesn't matter per se to [1:11:29] us. I mean it may be a a reflection on [1:11:32] the economy of course but it does not [1:11:35] necessarily impact the city and our [1:11:38] ability to provide those core services. [1:11:41] That's what their logic behind that was. [1:11:44] >> All right. Thank you, Council Member [1:11:45] Mikum. [1:11:46] >> Uh, while we're on this slide, I I just [1:11:48] want again to think about the the big [1:11:51] picture here. So, we're proposing a $211 [1:11:55] million [clears throat] budget. Uh, [1:11:57] about 25 million of that is fake in the [1:12:01] sense it's it's it's an accounting move [1:12:02] because we're creating a special revenue [1:12:04] fund. [1:12:05] >> Correct. [1:12:05] >> So, in terms of actual expenditures that [1:12:08] we would anticipate coming out of that [1:12:09] budget, we're talking about 180 [1:12:10] something million. Right. [1:12:12] >> It's even lower. Great. cuz there that's [1:12:14] not the only fund that has those kind of [1:12:16] transfers in and out, right? There was [1:12:18] 50 54 million [1:12:20] >> uh of transfers in and out. So it's [1:12:24] really [1:12:24] >> including the 25. [1:12:27] >> Yeah. Which includes the 25. Yes. [1:12:28] >> Okay. So 160 something [1:12:33] u million is the big picture budget. And [1:12:36] of that money, [1:12:39] uh, we anticipate 8.5 million coming in [1:12:42] from property tax. [1:12:44] >> Correct. [1:12:44] >> Which means this is just a tiny sliver [1:12:48] of our overall revenues. Uh, we're [1:12:50] talking about, you know, five or 6% here [1:12:53] of our overall revenues coming in from [1:12:55] this, right? Depending on how you [1:12:57] calculate those transfers. [1:12:59] >> Yep. You are 100% correct. [1:13:01] >> Okay. So this I I I I just think that [1:13:04] not everyone understands that u how [1:13:07] small um a portion of our overall [1:13:11] revenues come from our property tax. [1:13:13] >> Yeah, I agree. [1:13:13] >> And then I'm going to take the flip of [1:13:16] that a little bit. Not not to be Eeyore [1:13:19] or anything, but it is a very small [1:13:22] percentage, but it's a very steady [1:13:25] stable percentage. And what that shows [1:13:28] is how much right now we're dependent on [1:13:31] a more a less stable funding source for [1:13:34] a lot of our expenditures and that's [1:13:37] sales tax because it we're we're at the [1:13:40] mercy of a million different factors [1:13:41] with the economy and and people's lives [1:13:43] and things like that. So yes, I do think [1:13:46] it's very important to show that [1:13:47] property tax is a small portion [1:13:51] of that, but just also we need to be [1:13:54] mindful of how much our our budget is uh [1:13:58] consists of a less stable funding source [1:14:00] as well. [1:14:01] >> Yes, I agree. And and you know, not that [1:14:04] we have to go crazy, right? The reason [1:14:06] property tax has been as low as it has [1:14:09] been and why we haven't done necessarily [1:14:12] many property taxes is because we had uh [1:14:15] prior council members who understood [1:14:17] sales taxes and [1:14:20] built the the city around an [1:14:24] understanding of what sales taxes could [1:14:26] do particularly the you know the parkway [1:14:28] area right um so so there's a benefit to [1:14:32] be gained [1:14:33] >> by that [1:14:35] exactly the intent all along from all [1:14:37] the prior councils and us too to keep [1:14:39] our property taxes low. [1:14:40] >> Yes. [1:14:41] >> And I think that's reflective here. [1:14:43] >> And and the only thing that we're trying [1:14:45] to say now is property taxes I mean [1:14:49] sales taxes have kind of look like they [1:14:52] maybe hit a certain plateau right where [1:14:55] we can't necessarily count on huge gains [1:15:00] within the sales tax category. So, if [1:15:02] you're not gaining enough to keep up [1:15:05] with inflation [1:15:07] and cost increases, [1:15:09] what do we what what other mechanism do [1:15:12] we have to be able to keep up with that? [1:15:14] And that and that's a part of what uh [1:15:16] we're trying to make sure that we [1:15:18] understand when we had the general fund [1:15:21] sustainability study that we talked [1:15:23] about. That's part of why we did that [1:15:25] study is to be able to make sure that we [1:15:28] all have a a good understanding of where [1:15:31] we're headed and and what those [1:15:33] possibilities look like. [1:15:35] >> I appreciate that study and showing us [1:15:37] what what the different possibilities [1:15:39] could be. Thank you, Council Member [1:15:41] Mikum and Council Member Miller. Any [1:15:43] other questions thus far? All right, [1:15:46] carry on. So, just wanted to put this [1:15:48] back up there since we're talking about [1:15:49] the public safety fund um and talking [1:15:52] about that property tax increase and [1:15:54] just a slide to be able, you know, have [1:15:56] in that slide deck in relation uh to [1:15:58] what the proposal for that property tax [1:16:00] increase uh was to fund is to fund. Uh [1:16:04] and then just give you a breakdown uh of [1:16:06] that 45 million for the public safety [1:16:08] fund in between police and fire and how [1:16:11] those break down between uh personnel, [1:16:13] operations, and capital. Uh just to give [1:16:15] you again kind of an idea of the the [1:16:18] size and magnitude of each of those. [1:16:23] um briefly touched on this in our [1:16:26] tenative budget presentation, but again [1:16:28] just kind of identing the property tax [1:16:30] increase there for the personnel and [1:16:32] then down in the operations uh various [1:16:34] items that have been requested uh to be [1:16:37] able to fund those various items um as [1:16:40] we we move forward um with those with [1:16:43] expansions either because the they've [1:16:46] been covering it with what they have and [1:16:48] the time has come they no longer they're [1:16:52] not doing something else that they [1:16:54] probably would like to do or should do [1:16:58] because of these particular items [1:17:00] because they're using those funds to [1:17:02] fund these things. Um, and the time has [1:17:05] just come to be able to not have to [1:17:07] scrape together from this account and [1:17:08] that account to be able to fund those. [1:17:11] So, we're dedicating those funds to be [1:17:13] able to make sure that they can do that [1:17:16] uh without having to scrape away from [1:17:18] other needs and that they have um to be [1:17:21] able to accomplish the things that [1:17:23] they're they should be doing. [1:17:25] >> And would you just cuz I get this all [1:17:26] the time. What is EMPG? What is FFN? We [1:17:31] >> uh EMPG is a grant, a federal grant for [1:17:33] emergency preparedness. Uh that grant [1:17:36] has been shrinking and shrinking and [1:17:38] shrinking. Um, but we would like uh our [1:17:41] emergency manager to still be able to [1:17:43] get the things he needs to make sure we [1:17:45] are prepared. So, the city is now in [1:17:48] essence committing for that shrinkage of [1:17:51] the grant amount to cover that [1:17:53] shrinkage. Um, Newvos is the animal [1:17:56] shelter. Um, and so, uh, our costs for [1:18:00] taking care of animal control within the [1:18:03] city has increased over time. Um and [1:18:06] again they've just been finding ways to [1:18:08] fund that and so uh finally dedicating [1:18:11] those dollars to that increased amount [1:18:14] that uh they've been charging that they [1:18:16] charge the city. Um I think was there [1:18:19] >> the third one FFN [1:18:21] is uh fixtures furniture fixtures and [1:18:24] equipment. So within our fire stations, [1:18:27] uh beds, uh refrigerators, microwaves, [1:18:32] ovens, things of that of that nature, uh [1:18:35] in the past, they've just found a way to [1:18:38] again replace those instead of being [1:18:40] able to maybe number one take advantage [1:18:42] of replacing maybe all of them at the [1:18:46] same time and getting discounts in [1:18:47] relation to doing that. but dedicated [1:18:50] dollars for that purpose to replace [1:18:53] those things that wear out within a fire [1:18:56] station on a regular basis instead of [1:18:58] onesie twoosying it because that's all [1:19:01] we can afford to do. [1:19:02] >> Well, you don't think about that. I [1:19:03] mean, their water heater goes out too, [1:19:05] right? Just like in my house. [1:19:06] >> Correct. So, [1:19:07] >> correct. [1:19:08] >> Which kind of is what happened to kind [1:19:10] of prompt this to be honest with you. [1:19:12] So, [1:19:17] » okay. just and then we'll run through [1:19:19] these hopefully relatively quick. Uh we touched on what are our streets the [1:19:24] dollars that we receive um and where [1:19:26] those are going um between our uh the [1:19:30] two taxes that we receive an excise tax [1:19:33] being the BNC road fund as well as a [1:19:36] public transit and highway tax over on [1:19:38] the transportation sales tax side and [1:19:41] where those dollars are being um spent [1:19:44] within those those particular uh [1:19:46] projects. uh our main funds, sorry, [1:19:53] our debt service fund just to give you [1:19:55] an idea of what kind of debt we do have [1:19:57] um and the dollars associated with that. [1:20:00] So you can see um really the we have two uh outstanding bonds that the debt [1:20:05] service pays uh fund pays for which is [1:20:07] our 2019 go bonds which paid for the [1:20:10] fitness center and the library hall. And [1:20:14] then um uh we have a 2024 sales tax [1:20:18] revenue bonds which are paying for the [1:20:20] fac uh fire training facility as well as [1:20:23] the remodel over at the public safety [1:20:25] building, the police department. And [1:20:27] then of course our continuing um payment [1:20:30] uh to cover the Utopia uh debt. We also [1:20:33] do have a a lease that was an energy [1:20:35] improvement uh lease um to the biggest [1:20:40] item of that was replacing all of the [1:20:42] bulbs on the street lights of the city [1:20:44] from incandescent bulbs to LED bulbs and so we continue to uh pay on that [1:20:51] lease finance. It's a lease financing [1:20:53] arrangement. So any questions about the [1:20:56] debt service component? [1:21:02] They are uh internal service funds. Just [1:21:04] again to give you an idea of what kinds [1:21:06] of things do we do uh internally that [1:21:09] they do for ourselves uh to support uh [1:21:14] operations within the city and and these [1:21:15] are [clears throat] the five funds that [1:21:16] we operate uh that provide those [1:21:19] services uh to the city as a whole. [1:21:23] Um some of the additions that we added [1:21:29] here some uh IT elements in relation to [1:21:33] some uh project engineers, a database [1:21:36] administrator and some security as [1:21:39] obviously the state has continued to [1:21:41] identify need things that we're required [1:21:44] to make sure we take care of in the [1:21:46] cyber security realm primarily but um [1:21:49] any type of security that we may stand a [1:21:51] need of this person can help our staff [1:21:53] uh be able to identify and work upon [1:21:55] those as well. [1:21:59] And then various operational components. [1:22:01] Some of these um are related to just [1:22:04] cost increases. Um you know the Google [1:22:07] obviously continues to uh cost more. Um [1:22:11] and then there are some changes that [1:22:13] have to occur between us being not on an [1:22:15] say on an enterprise fund an enterprise [1:22:19] product. um versus a government product. [1:22:24] Um and so there's some changes that need [1:22:26] to occur there with our licensing um in [1:22:29] relation to that. And then um some [1:22:32] software [1:22:33] various software needs um as well as [1:22:36] some service in the uh air conditioning [1:22:39] uh components for our our backup systems [1:22:42] and things like that. So so um various [1:22:45] items related to their operations. [1:22:49] And just to I I moved this to the top [1:22:51] because I'm not going to touch on we [1:22:53] already did that in the tenative budget [1:22:55] for each of the utility funds, but just [1:22:57] as a reminder uh where we uh sit or what [1:23:01] where we think we sit in relation to all [1:23:03] of these other entities in relation to [1:23:05] our total utility cost. Um and that in [1:23:08] that again as a reminder that includes [1:23:11] our assumption of our increases that are [1:23:14] part of the budget as opposed to where [1:23:16] all of those entities sit currently. Um [1:23:19] and and sometime and many of those I [1:23:21] think it says at the bottom uh yeah [1:23:24] table assumes so we assumed a historical [1:23:26] average increase. So so I take that [1:23:29] slightly back. Those are taking what [1:23:32] they currently are and making a [1:23:34] projection of where we think that they [1:23:36] would end up. based on that 4.9% [1:23:39] utility increase. [1:23:44] Um, briefly run through the water fund. [1:23:47] Um, we we had a uh change to both the [1:23:51] base rate for all of the meters, but you [1:23:54] can see we've listed for the 3/4 meter [1:23:56] um as well as tier one um usage rates. [1:23:59] All the tiers will be changing, but uh [1:24:01] they all change approximately that same [1:24:03] percentage. Um and then uh there's some [1:24:07] changes over on the lefth hand side in [1:24:09] relation to the the fee that we was [1:24:11] started last year in relation to [1:24:13] Jordanell and Deer Creek um work and [1:24:18] then down at the bottom left uh a new [1:24:20] state regulatory fee that will be added [1:24:23] to uh the bill to pay for um regul that [1:24:27] regulations that the state has placed [1:24:29] upon us. [1:24:32] water reclamation, [1:24:34] um sewer, otherwise known as sewer. [1:24:36] Again, proposed base rate increases and [1:24:39] volume charge increases. Um you're all [1:24:41] well aware of all of the things that'll [1:24:43] be going on down at the treatment plant [1:24:45] and the improvements that need to happen [1:24:46] there. Um and so again this while not as [1:24:51] large as the prior two years in relation [1:24:53] to that increase still pretty large [1:24:55] increase as we and that should be um [1:24:58] continuing to as we bond for try to go [1:25:02] out for bonding in relation to making [1:25:04] those uh improvements happen. Um, we [1:25:07] have uh some uh cash that we're able [1:25:10] then to get those projects started and [1:25:13] then be able to use bond money to keep [1:25:16] the keep the ball rolling, if you will. [1:25:20] Uh, storm water. Um, again, you're all [1:25:24] well aware of the canal abandonments [1:25:26] that have been happening throughout the [1:25:28] city. Um, and the uh increase there is [1:25:31] to help us try to figure out ways to be [1:25:33] able to uh [1:25:36] do improvements to collect that storm [1:25:39] water now that those canals are are no [1:25:41] longer an option for us. And so uh you [1:25:45] see a rate increase in relation to the [1:25:47] storm water system as well. [1:25:52] Um recreation uh I think I mentioned [1:25:56] that the rate hadn't been incre Yeah. [1:25:58] right there in increase had no increases [1:26:00] to the annual there are no increases to [1:26:02] the annual membership the daily uh [1:26:05] admission it will increase for the first [1:26:06] time in three years. Um and just as a [1:26:10] side note our indoor classes those [1:26:12] continue to climb as people continue to [1:26:15] use the fitness center to to do those [1:26:17] classes. [1:26:20] uh our solid waste fund garbage. Um [1:26:23] we've renegotiated our contract with [1:26:26] waste management um and uh so uh we've [1:26:30] been putting off uh trying to have any [1:26:33] increases to citizens um and until now. [1:26:36] So and now we have a there will be an [1:26:39] increase in relation to uh those uh [1:26:42] solid waste charges um which you can see [1:26:45] the effect of that in the proposed uh [1:26:48] revenue increase because that's totally [1:26:51] based on uh what our expenditures are uh [1:26:55] going to be what we expect them to be. [1:26:58] So it's purely a pass through [1:27:02] and you can see that in relation to the [1:27:04] solid waste uh rate uh history here [1:27:13] and are there any questions after all of [1:27:16] that? [1:27:17] >> Thank you. Any questions? Council, [1:27:19] anything that you have that Okay, [1:27:22] council member Mikum. [1:27:24] >> Sorry I keep coming back to you. No [1:27:26] worries. It's just this is my first [1:27:28] budget rodeo and I'm excited to learn as [1:27:30] much as I can. [1:27:31] >> Sometimes I feel like it's my first one, [1:27:32] too. [1:27:33] >> Don't say that. [1:27:36] >> Um, [1:27:39] but transportation utility fund, we've heard about that. Uh, I'm not [1:27:42] seeing that in your presentation. [1:27:44] not included in our budget, our tenative [1:27:46] budget uh at the time when all of those [1:27:49] requirements around setting up that um [1:27:52] are in place and we would be coming [1:27:55] forward to you with a budget amendment. [1:27:58] um whatever time of year that happens to [1:28:00] fall in uh to see whe about adding that [1:28:03] as part of uh our budgeting and and that [1:28:07] potentially would also then not even [1:28:08] potentially it would have another I mean [1:28:12] another fund uh tied to that those [1:28:15] dollars as well. So that will occur when [1:28:18] that is ready to be brought forward. So, [1:28:19] we're not we're not trying to get that [1:28:21] through before the fiscal year. And uh [1:28:25] the any funds that come through if that [1:28:27] is approved would would be directed [1:28:29] primarily to transportation [1:28:31] improvements, right? [1:28:34] Uh and given that the fiscal year starts [1:28:37] July 1st and that the timeline that you [1:28:41] uh showed to us says that we're still [1:28:43] going to be voting on budget items the [1:28:45] end of August. Um are you asking us to [1:28:49] approve an interim budget [1:28:52] um that covers that period of time [1:28:55] before we make final budgetary [1:28:57] decisions? What how how do July and [1:28:59] August work? [1:29:00] >> Yeah. So thank you for bringing that up. [1:29:02] So, the ordinance that you have before [1:29:03] you is basically approving um the budget [1:29:08] outside of those items we mentioned with [1:29:11] a property tax increase, a dedicated um [1:29:14] the dedication of the property tax. Um [1:29:17] as and so that budget, that tenative [1:29:21] budget [1:29:22] in the language is what the state then [1:29:25] refers to as an interim budget. And we [1:29:28] would then operate under that interim [1:29:30] budget from July 1st until August 27th [1:29:33] when on that TNT meeting in August you [1:29:37] would approve a final adopted budget at [1:29:40] that point. [1:29:45] It is kind of like being in we're kind [1:29:48] of dating you know and you know [1:29:51] >> we kind of think this is the budget we [1:29:52] want. We're getting we're getting a [1:29:54] little more serious. But you know what? [1:29:56] You going to pop the question on August [1:29:58] 27th and see if it becomes [1:30:01] >> That's good analogy. Yeah. Never thought [1:30:04] of it that way, but it is good. [1:30:06] >> Got a little levity, man. [laughter] [1:30:09] >> You Brandon, you do an outstanding job. [1:30:11] You and your team, Trevor. Well done. [1:30:14] And so, yes, council. Any other [1:30:16] questions, comments on the budget before [1:30:18] I open a public hearing? [1:30:22] All right. Well, I gonna second what you [1:30:24] say. I know we've been talking about [1:30:25] this for weeks and weeks and weeks and [1:30:26] it takes you weeks and weeks and weeks [1:30:28] and basically the whole year to get [1:30:29] ready for this. So, just I really [1:30:30] appreciate it and I know our residents [1:30:31] appreciate it as well. So, to you and [1:30:33] your team, thank you. [1:30:34] >> Thank you, [1:30:34] >> Liz. Thank you. [1:30:36] >> All right. [1:30:36] >> I I do have one more comment. Sorry. [1:30:39] >> U [1:30:40] Thanks. Thanks for uh walking us through [1:30:43] this and and providing the detail and thought that you you've done. Uh, I [1:30:48] know all all of us up here really want [1:30:51] to be fiscally conservative in the way [1:30:53] that we approach this and I I feel like [1:30:58] uh you and other members of our staff [1:31:00] are doing your very best to to uh try to [1:31:04] make sure that every dollar spent is uh [1:31:06] spent very wisely. Uh we appreciate [1:31:08] that. That's something that I care a lot [1:31:10] about and I I know that my colleagues [1:31:13] care care a lot about. uh even though [1:31:16] the proposed property tax increase is is [1:31:19] very small, right? And we're going to [1:31:22] see really direct tangible benefits in [1:31:25] terms of of support from two additional [1:31:27] police officers, which we need. [1:31:30] um that you know that small increase [1:31:34] combined with some of the additional [1:31:36] rate increases that people might might [1:31:38] see in terms of storm water in terms of [1:31:42] um [1:31:42] >> water and sewer [1:31:43] >> uh sew you know sewer and solid waste [1:31:46] charges as well. U I I I think you know [1:31:51] many of our residents might not [1:31:53] necessarily [1:31:54] feel a pinch from that but there might [1:31:56] be some that do. [1:31:57] >> Sure. Um and [1:32:00] um so I just I just want us to be [1:32:01] sensitive to the the fact that [1:32:04] particularly for those that are are [1:32:06] barely surviving, [1:32:08] right? That um some of those fee [1:32:11] increases um may not feel completely [1:32:14] negligible [1:32:16] um and may be u [1:32:20] you know they they might feel it. And so [1:32:23] I I know that tonight's not the night [1:32:25] for this conversation, but uh I would [1:32:28] like us to have a conversation at some [1:32:29] point about uh how how do we help ensure [1:32:34] that those that really are living on u [1:32:38] low fixed incomes uh who might notice [1:32:41] and feel those differences [1:32:44] um how do we ensure that they have [1:32:46] opportunities [1:32:48] um to demonstrate you know need [1:32:52] um anytime that there is a fee or a tax [1:32:55] increase uh in a way that uh we have [1:32:58] their back and we can support them as [1:33:00] well. So, uh again, I think that you've [1:33:03] done a really great job in terms of [1:33:06] making sure that this is a conservative [1:33:07] budget. Um that it's a responsible [1:33:10] budget. Uh we are living in a world of [1:33:12] inflation. [1:33:14] uh and we need to be able to keep our [1:33:17] staff and we need to be able to uh pay [1:33:20] the the things we need to pay for. Um, [1:33:23] but I I I just hope that we will [1:33:26] continue to have a a conversation uh [1:33:28] between the staff and the city council [1:33:30] about how do we ensure that those who um [1:33:34] do feel pinched occasionally by this uh [1:33:37] have recourse and opportunities uh to to [1:33:42] um demonstrate that they may need some [1:33:44] additional support. [1:33:45] >> Yeah, we we welcome those conversations. [1:33:47] We we welcomed them in the past and we [1:33:49] certainly welcome them going forward. [1:33:52] I echo I echo that as well that I have [1:33:54] that concern and so I look forward to [1:33:56] that council member Millet. [1:33:57] >> So I and maybe just in just way to help [1:34:02] is you know use our our community um our [1:34:07] civic engagement director to put out [1:34:10] some of those programs on our social [1:34:13] media that are available. You know talk [1:34:15] about it at our senior center. We do [1:34:18] there are some things the county offers [1:34:20] um to assist with some of these [1:34:23] increases. So I don't think it hurts to [1:34:26] put that information out there again and [1:34:28] for those most vulnerable to help them [1:34:32] >> for sure. [1:34:32] >> And yeah, and I appreciate um Council [1:34:35] Member Mikum saying that we're all very [1:34:38] cognizant of that [1:34:40] um situation and we hear about it from [1:34:44] the residents. So [1:34:46] >> All right. [1:34:47] We we are genuinely happy to communicate [1:34:51] and educate on those programs and we we [1:34:53] do set aside funds for that uh for those [1:34:56] efforts every year and and it's part of [1:34:58] our sort of communications calendar to [1:35:01] get that information out. So, but yes, [1:35:03] we'll we'll follow up on it and make [1:35:04] sure we do so. [1:35:06] >> All right. Thank you. Right. If there [1:35:08] are no other comments from the council, [1:35:10] it's public hearing. We're going to open [1:35:11] the public hearing. Um if there's anyone [1:35:13] here to speak to uh the ordinance [1:35:17] adopting fiscal year 2026 20227 tenative [1:35:21] interim budget you're welcome to come up [1:35:23] and and share your thoughts. [1:35:31] Seeing nobody who who will be coming up [1:35:34] go ahead and close that public hearing [1:35:35] and bring it back to the council. [1:35:38] It does require this item does [1:35:41] require an action by us and it has a [1:35:45] rather uh if if you [1:35:47] >> pretty lengthy. [1:35:47] >> It's a long motion if you choose to make [1:35:50] a mo. Well, it says to approve or deny. [1:35:52] So, you know, is that all one sent? It [1:35:55] is all one sentence. [1:35:57] >> Wow. Breath in between. [1:35:58] >> You are an overachiever, Mr. Nelson. [1:36:01] >> Well, I got Steve involved, so that's [1:36:03] why. [1:36:03] >> Oh, okay. [1:36:04] >> This looks like a Steve sentence to me. [1:36:06] >> Okay. I'm sorry. I I give you credit. It [1:36:08] should the credit should go to Mr. Earl. [1:36:10] Okay. [1:36:12] >> Joint effort. And it was. [1:36:14] >> Mayor, I'll make a motion. [1:36:16] >> All right. Council member Lamson. [1:36:18] >> I move to approve and adopt the fiscal [1:36:20] year 2026 2027 tenative budget as shown [1:36:24] in exhibit A, which will serve as the [1:36:25] city's interim budget beginning July [1:36:27] 1st, 2026. [1:36:30] And ending after the date, the city [1:36:32] council adopts a final budget. Adopt all [1:36:34] fees and charges shown in exhibit B. [1:36:37] Adopt the compensation programs as shown [1:36:40] in exhibit C. Adopt the franchise tax, [1:36:43] municipal energy sales and use tax, [1:36:46] telecommunications license tax, [1:36:48] transient room tax, E911 fee rate, and [1:36:51] adopt a proposed tax rate above the [1:36:54] certified tax rate with a truth and [1:36:56] taxation public hearing to be held on [1:36:58] Thursday, August 27th, 2026 at 6 p.m. at [1:37:03] which time a final budget will be [1:37:05] adopted. [1:37:07] >> All right, have a motion. [1:37:08] >> I second that. [1:37:09] >> Second. The only way you could have [1:37:11] improved that motion is if you did it in [1:37:12] one breath. [1:37:13] >> I thought about it and then [1:37:15] [clears throat] I thought better about [1:37:16] it. [1:37:17] >> Okay. [laughter] [1:37:18] >> All right, council. We have a motion in [1:37:19] a second to approve u an ordinance [1:37:22] adopting our fiscal 2627 tenative [1:37:25] interim budget. Is there any more [1:37:26] discussion? [1:37:28] Right. I'm going to go ahead and vote I. [1:37:29] Council member Mikum. [1:37:31] >> I Right. Motion carries unanimously. [1:37:38] Thank you. Thank you for all your your [1:37:40] work, all of you, on this. This was a [1:37:42] No, it's only a few more months until we [1:37:44] start the process over again. [1:37:46] >> I'm so discouraging tonight. I'm sorry. [1:37:49] I don't mean to be. [laughter] [1:37:52] All right. Our next item is uh just [1:37:55] council, if you would like to refer to [1:37:56] your packet to see the uh monthly [1:37:59] financial statement for April 2026. And [1:38:02] then we have item number six, our city [1:38:04] manager information items. to turn the [1:38:06] time over to our city manager, Bren By. [1:38:10] >> I just want to echo uh my my gratitude [1:38:14] um and and the alignment of us as as [1:38:17] staff with um uh your direction and [1:38:20] leadership in in um caring about every [1:38:26] dollar in in our budget. Thank you so [1:38:28] much for your trust, support, confidence [1:38:31] in us. I am very very confident in our [1:38:34] employees to be fully humble, hungry and [1:38:38] smart to uh that that they do each have [1:38:42] the the continuous improvement mindset [1:38:45] that they do sacrifice that they truly [1:38:48] want to do good beyond themselves. Um, I [clears throat] am super grateful for [1:38:54] the the team we have and and I I know [1:38:56] that they will continue to uh provide [1:39:00] the top highest uh uh standards of of [1:39:04] quality service and do it at the best [1:39:07] possible price to our residents. Uh so I [1:39:11] just want you to know that I am [1:39:13] completely confident in in our staff to [1:39:17] execute on the budget that you have. so uh well generously positively [1:39:24] um supported and and and the we do not [1:39:28] take for granted the trust you put in us [1:39:31] uh to to serve our our dear residents. [1:39:33] So thank you so much and echo my thanks [1:39:36] to um our financial department and our [1:39:39] executive team and and all of our [1:39:41] employees. Truly, there's not a level of [1:39:44] our organization where you you where we [1:39:48] have people that don't care or that [1:39:51] don't want to uh uh give our ORM [1:39:54] residents more. So, uh that's all that's [1:39:58] all I wanted to publicly represent this [1:40:01] evening. [1:40:02] >> Yeah. And city manager Bobby, can I also [1:40:04] just confirm that there's 20 minutes [1:40:06] left of the of the Ormfest pool party um [1:40:10] tonight and that you will try to make it [1:40:12] before 8 in cannonball into the pool as [1:40:15] a show of support uh for all of our [1:40:17] residents. [laughter] [1:40:22] » I will head there quickly and yes, let's [1:40:25] all please enjoy Ormfest. I'm sorry we [1:40:28] had this council meeting on our fun [1:40:30] week, but yeah, let's let's go enjoy [1:40:32] Ormfest. [1:40:34] >> All right. Thank you. On that note, I [1:40:36] would look for a motion to adjurnn. [1:40:39] >> I don't make motion. I don't think I've [1:40:41] ever made a motion since I've been [1:40:42] mayor. I'm going to make a motion that [1:40:43] we adjurnn. Do it. Yeah. I will second [1:40:45] it then. All right. All those in favor? [1:40:47] Bye. All right. Bye. Hey.