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Okay, we'll call to order

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this meeting of your city council, Tuesday, May 19th,

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2026.

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Roll call, please.

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Let the record show we have a quorum with all council members present.

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Closed session. Public comments.

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The public will have an opportunity to directly address the legislative body

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on the item below prior to the council convening into closed session.

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Public comments are generally restricted to three minutes.

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Closed session pursuant to Government Code Section 54957,

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public employment of the city manager. Do I have any public comments?

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Online?

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No. And while no one's talking, so just what we on?

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So we are going to go into closed session if it's fine.

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Mayor.

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We are now going to return to our session.

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Report from closed session.

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We will report that under Government Code Section

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54957.1, the council has

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approved a separation agreement in general

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release with Joseph Goodman by a vote of

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5-0. A copy of the executed agreement is available for

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public inspection in the office of the city clerk.

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We want to recognize the efforts that Mr.

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Goodman put in and the value he brought to our

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community during the time he was here, and we wish him the

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best and appreciate all that he's done for us.

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At this time, we will do the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Luke.

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I pledge

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allegiance to the Flag of the United

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States of America,

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and to the Republic for which it stands, one

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Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty

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and justice for all.

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Members of the public wishing to address the council

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on any items not on the agenda may do so at this time when

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recognized by the mayor. However, no formal action or discussion will be

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taken unless placed on a future agenda.

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The public is advised to limit discussion to one presentation per

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individual, and while not required, please state your name and place of

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residence for the record.

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Please direct all your comments to the mayor or vice mayor, not to city staff, nor

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to the audience. Public comments will be limited to three minutes.

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Do I have any public comments at this time?

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Ms.

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Mayor.

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Hey.

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Valerie Thompson with Hidden Treasures Sanctuary and

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Rescue. Just thank you, Mayor Barr,

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for coming to our gala. It was a success.

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We filled up the place and we raised $10,000, which was great.

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Moving forward, we've got plans this year to really

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upgrade the sanctuary, do a lot of necessary

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things. So with that, also the voucher program, we've been

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going forward with it. With the news of

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changes here and there, and regardless of that, we

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are going to continue with the voucher program on our own in the

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future.

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Whether the political winds turn whichever

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way,

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I would with that like to

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be placed on the calendar for a

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discussion to see if we can finalize finally with

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all the changes with the city council and the members and

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managers and what have you. I think we've gotten a little lost in the mix on

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getting it all finalized. We've done

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250 spays and neuters so far, just since

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we've been

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finalized the use permit, and our surgery room is

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complete as of this year. And so we're happy about

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that. So we did submit an invoice to our acting

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manager, Janet Wackerman. Thank you.

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And we would like to be on the calendar to see if we can just

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finalize the fine print on everything we've done.

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We've crossed all the T's and dotted the I's, so the city clerks in the

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office would not have to do anything at all, really, except for just

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sign a check.

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moving forward, we are really proud of our city of

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Orange on the stance that they've taken with the

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humane

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cap situation problem and as

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that goes with the county did not go through

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with their end of it, and that's sad to say.

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But with that as well, our sheriff,

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sorry for going over, Megan-

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Oh, yeah. We're going to have to-

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Oh, s**t.

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Is coming in for stepping up for the county instead of

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supervisors. So with that, I can say that the program's going forward.

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Very good, and we'll make sure you get on a future agenda.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much for your thoughts and your contribution.

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Ms. Joanna on it.

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Thank you so much, Mayor. My name is Joanna Guthrie.

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I am a resident of Chico.

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However, I am your representative for waste management

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here in the Glenn County area.

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I am less than two months into the job, so I am learning

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about all of you, your cities, your towns.

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A quick little rundown on me. I spent the last 25

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years in local governmentI worked in a rural county in Washington

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State, and then the last five years, I was working for a smaller city in

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the state of Arizona.

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And part of that time I was a solid waste manager, and I did

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various other roles in public works.

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So I've been on your side of the table before.

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I'm new to this side. But I do know solid waste, and I am happy to

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be available to talk with any of you.

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I'll be working with Janet, your city manager, that's acting at the

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moment. And please feel free to reach out at any time if you have any

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specific questions.

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Okay. Thank you so much for coming forward and saying hello to all of us.

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And I'll be getting your information and reaching out to you.

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I am on the Waste Management liaison for the City of Ormond, and

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I've got a couple of questions that I'm sure you could easily answer for me, so

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let's face it, but they're there. Any other public comments tonight?

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No? Any online?

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No? Okay. Well, we're going to close the public comment section then.

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And we will go on to our

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consent calendar. Public comments are welcome for each

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agenda item at the time designated by the mayor.

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Each speaker is limited to one comment per item, with a maximum of three minutes.

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After the public comment period closes, the council will proceed with its

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discussion, and attendees are asked to refrain from interruptions or

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disruptive behavior. A, the warrant list.

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B, approve city council minutes for May 5th,

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2026. C, receive and file Arts Commission minutes

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from February 18th, 2026.

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Madam Mayor, sorry to interrupt.

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Staff is requesting that you pull, the council pull item D

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for future consideration as a regular administrative

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business item, not on consent. We had a slight little miscommunication

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between governor and I on this, so we can make those corrections.

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Okay, thank you for that information.

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E, adoption of the disability retirement designation

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resolution.

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F, adoption of the annual solid waste parcel fee resolution.

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G, consider an MOU with the Ormond Unified School District

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Student Success Library Card Program.

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H, receive the April 2026 budget reports, and I,

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receive the Treasurer's Report for May of 2026.

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Do I have any public comments on any of these items?

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Online?

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No. Okay. Do I have a motion to

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approve the consent calendar while pulling item D?

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Madam Chair, if I may.

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Item I, it says receive your treasurer's report.

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It makes a reference to a committee.

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I don't know, I couldn't find out who's on that committee.

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This is an investment committee that would take funds and invest

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them in earning of CDs, that sort of thing.

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I would ask to pull that until we get a report in the future.

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Okay. So we'll pull item I as well.

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And then, Madam Mayor, I'd like to pull item H just I've got a few questions

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regarding the budget.

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I would make a motion to adopt the consent calendar with the

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indications that we've been pulling items D, H, and I from

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consideration at this time.

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I'll second the motion.

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All those in favor?

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The motion carries.

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Okay, so D is off the calendar entirely.

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E, H, shall we discuss the April budget?

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Yeah, Madam Mayor. I just... Hey, Jen.

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Just a quick question. I was running through some of those budget numbers, and I

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saw that parks and meetings, and this could've been a simple question I could have

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answered earlier, but get a chance to make it to you.

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But I seen that park maintenance went up 243%,

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and I don't know if that was another project you got tied in there.

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I know it's happened before.

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Yeah. Excuse me. Roberto is online-

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Okay. No, yeah

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... and maybe he can probably answer that better.

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Roberto, did you catch his question?

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parks maintenance is over, the budget is over as far as the

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financial report is concerned. They're not really technically over, it's just

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there's some corrections that we're still in the process of making.

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This is a new system that started this fiscal year from the

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last one, and we're still working out the bugs.

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There's some charges that are showing up in the wrong account.

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We're trying to get everything into the right accounts.

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Hopefully by the May report, everything will be back in the right account, but

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we've been working through quite a few adjustments with this new system.

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And Madam Mayor, just one last question for Roberto then.

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And then also, too, I noticed for the discrepancy between Measure A and Measure J,

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where they should be bringing the same amount of money in.

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Roberto, you know anything about that?

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as you know, Measure A used to exist. Measure J replaced it.

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But for budgeting purposes and talking to staff, it was

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understood and it was explained to me, and we can certainly change it, that Measure

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is the original half cent. Measure J is the additional half cent.

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Technically, it's 1 cent, but they're keeping Measure A as

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the original half cent with its stated purpose.

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As reported in the financial statements, there is no Measure A, but in the

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financial statements, the original purpose of that first half

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cent is being kept in one line. Measure J is being tracked

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separately, which is the other half cent.

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It's got a different uses in the original Measure A.

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That's the reason why there's two of them shown, but legally, there's only one

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Measure J.

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Are you talking about the income value in

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J?

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Maybe I didn't quite hear the question.

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The four-year almost.

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Or one.

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Yeah, Roberto, I think you had explained it to us before.

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It had something to do with when the money came in.

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I think that's what-

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Oh, in the current year's budget, you mean?

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Yeah, the revenue... Oh, I was thinking, sorry.

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I have '26, '27 budget in my mind. In the current budget

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Measure-J is less because it did not have a

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full year's worth. It didn't have a full year where Measure A was in

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place for the full year, and that was kind of a guesstimate at the very beginning.

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Now we do have a more solid number for next year.

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And as you can tell when you look at the revenues, Measure J is coming stronger

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than was originally anticipated.

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Yeah. I think because it passed in November, it didn't go into effect until

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April or something of June. I know about sales tax, that's why.

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So it'll be a full-

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... a year.

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Yeah, I mean, you start receiving money in June, and then you obviously-

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And then it took a while for you to come in.

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And then other than that, you have any other questions?

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No other questions from council members. Any other questions, Alex?

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Roberto.

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Try to make it.

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On the budget that you provided.

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Yes, I do have a question.

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Roberto, what is your last name? I'm brand new here.

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Moreno.

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Very nice to meet you, Mr. Moreno. I'm Wade Elliott.

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I'm a new member of the council, first time we've met, so I'm so glad to have made

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your acquaintance tonight. I just want to make sure I'm understanding, and if not

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for me, maybe for the public. Measure J, Measure A, these are

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both taxpayer-approved, right? These were

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voter-approved taxes on our sales tax. Is that correct?

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Yes.

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Even though there were intentions that were put into the language that we voted on,

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were any of the funds required to be restricted?

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Technically, no, because if they were technically

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required, then it would be a special tax

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that has a two-thirds majority vote. It's a general tax.

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It's subject to the council's discretion, but council has chosen to

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follow a certain direction as to how the money should be spent.

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So that is my understanding as well.

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And you've looked at these two systems and the transition.

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Had there been a practice in the past of carefully

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identifying the Measure J and Measure A funds for designated

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purposes as you described prior?

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I just started this about a year ago, and

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so what was done in the past is only what I've been provided, which was the

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Measure A, a list of projects and how it's been spent in the past.

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Right.

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And then there's what was the language in the ordinance as to what it was intended

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to be used for.

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Is it your read as you've looked at some of the numbers that discretion was

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used with those funds outside of those definitions by previous

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councils?

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Everything that I've seen was spent based on what was in the ordinance

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of public safety, streets-

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Okay

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... and ambulance now.

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I appreciate that. Thank you for that clarification.

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And again, thank you for reporting to us tonight.

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And, Mr. Mayor, I do have one question. All right.

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A quick question, again, so I mean, probably figures, kind of makes it sound

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like we're not holding our end of the deal for Measure J and for the citizens.

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We'll use that and we'll get broken for this.

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So I do want to say I appreciate that, but we're still

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keeping track of it, just like-

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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I trust you guys on that one. Roberto, not to throw you under the bus, buddy, but

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this community will set you, me, and everybody else on fire if we don't hold it up

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to the letter of the law. Yes, it's a general fund measure on a two-thirds

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majority special measure, but yeah, the community takes that very,

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very seriously. So I want to make sure that I understand what you're saying in

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terms of a general fund issue, but we just want to make sure general fund money is

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not getting funneled out of Measure J, or there can be a lot

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of problems around here, so. But thank you for that. Thank you, Jen.

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Well, again, I only have one other question.

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When I'm looking at impact fees revenues, we have

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transportation, public safety, city hall, water system, sewer system,

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library, park land, park improvements, capital maintenance,

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and recreational facilities. And then there are

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numbers

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totaling $312,000 on the current or on the

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fiscal activity for the year. So these are fees that we have

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collected that have been allocated to each piece departments, is that

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correct?

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So each fee is collected based on the ordinance.

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It can only be used specifically for these items, so they are all

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being tracked.

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This money has been collected. The fiscal activity is

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year-to-date on active building permits.

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Permits are issued for development within the city,

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and they are each tracked, and they can only be spent on specific items.

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I'm not sure if I answered the question.

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I'm trying to understand. The Arts Council

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funding comes from a designation from impact fees,

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and I don't see the Arts Council listed here.

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Why were they not included as one of those impact recipients?

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Okay, so this part of the impact

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fees is subject to state law and what

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it goes through. These are impact fees per state law.

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The Arts Commission fee that you're talking about-

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Okay

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... that one is not based on

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state law. That is an extra fee that was set up by council.

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When the person takes out the permit, all of these fees are set up, and

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then there's an extra fee below the impact fees that's

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for the Arts Commission. It's called an impact fee, but it's

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not an impact fee in the true sense of the word.

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The way all of these are subject to state legislation as to how they can

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be used and how they can be collected.

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The other one is

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not. It's a city set ordinance.

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Okay. But since it's a city ordinance, then it doesn't need to be reported on what

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we're looking with revenues.

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Right.

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It's 300 and some thousand in impact fees to these

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various things that are stayed, but is there another category

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somewhere that shows what the Arts Council should have been?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Yes, there is.

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What

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you received here is the funds that were

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budgetedThe Arts Commission funds were not

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budgeted. They are being tracked, they're being reported on separately, but they

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were not budgeted. Now, we can certainly add them to this

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budget.

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It's just that there was no set dollar amounts.

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It was just whatever they had on hand.

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For next year, for 26/27, there will definitely be a budget

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for the Arts Commission

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based on some estimates as to what might come in for the Arts

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Commission. But they are there, they are being tracked, they're just not reported

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here. But we can certainly add them.

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Okay, I just want to make sure that those are being tracked and that the-

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Yes

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... arts grants being comprised of any monies that are due them under...

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It's one of the items on tonight's agenda we can talk about more there.

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That I just, when I saw these impact fees and didn't see their name,

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I'm still trying to learn the processes here. Thank you.

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Any other questions from the council?

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Yeah, if I could, Madam, just through the chair.

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Again, Roberto, just for clarification, I don't want to leave this one unsaid.

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These funds have been collected as they come in.

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They're based on applicants, right?

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So they're not based on some easily predictable number.

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If there are no applicants, there are no fees.

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Also, in the ordinance, there are exemptions from that fee.

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Was that correct?

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Yes, it is.

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It is, because I've read the ordinance.

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So there could be an actual development where that fee does not

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appear on their fee schedule because it's an exempt

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entity. For example, if a nonprofit were

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to construct.

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Okay. Awesome.

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There you go. So it is entirely possible that you could have

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activity in the community where that particular

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fee is not assessed. Also, I don't know so much about

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budgeting this unless it's an actual line item budget.

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This is actually, if I understood it, and it's been around for a while,

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this was an effort by prior councils to show their support for

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arts in our community, and we've appreciated what they've done and are still

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doing. And so we think that the real

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wagon we've hitched to here, which is development, was probably at least

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originally the right

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wagon to hitch to. If future councils decide that

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isn't the way to do it, and so that it's not dependent on

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applications, it's not dependent, that would be a brand-new decision

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for the Council of May. So I've got that all right, right, Roberto?

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Perfect.

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You got it.

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Right?

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Yeah, so I think that would be maybe what we'll actually discuss

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tonight, whether or not that's what the Arts Commission is actually asking

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for-

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Yeah

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... is a different approach to how they're funded.

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Thank you.

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Okay, any other questions by council on the budget?

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All right, we will return it to the consent calendar,

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as well as the treasurer's report that you had a question about.

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Yeah, I'll wait for another report.

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It's not appropriate tonight to try to ask somebody like Letty who's not here what

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is going on. The people I've asked haven't been able to tell me who's on that

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investment committee. I don't think it's a big deal.

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I think we could accept her report at a future meeting, and obviously, she can

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flesh that out for us to my satisfaction, I'm sure.

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Okay. So we are going to then approve item

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H.

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We've had a motion. We've had a second.

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We've had-

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Richard, did you approve?

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Not on this. So we pulled H and I, so if you could do a

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joint motion, we could-

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We pulled D, H, and I.

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Correct. D, H, and I.

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And that was the motion we made.

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Correct.

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That was second.

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Now the issue is whether your approval of H and

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I is separate than that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, outside, since we pulled it, they weren't approved.

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So now it's just a motion to accept.

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So if I may, I'll go ahead and move. My question's been answered by

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Roberto. I'll move to approve an H and add on the consent

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calendar as was said.

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Okay, a motion to be seconded. Officer Bigger? Oh, second.

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Second.

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Okay.

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Are you approving I, because I thought we were bringing it back?

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Yeah, just kind of a point of order here.

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We're not required to adopt everything on the consent calendar.

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No.

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I think the council's made it clear there are three items of concern.

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There's no point in accepting a budget that's not clear.

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We're hearing that in May we have a better budget report.

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I would not support approving a budget report that we know

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isn't going to be the one that's accurate. So I think we can...

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I mean, do whatever you want, but I'm going to vote no

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on approving H or I because we've already decided

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those items are not appropriate to consent to tonight,

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and that's all we're talking.

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Okay.

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Agree.

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So this requires no further motion-

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No

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... since it's been pulled then?

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It's up to the council.

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Yeah.

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It's just us.

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Okay, just our table.

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It's up to the council.

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Welcome back.

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Yeah. Just-

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Continue from where we-

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The eight people

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... Yeah.

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Mr. Mayor. Sorry. Actually, I would like for staff on

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item 8B for the

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districting,

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ask the council to consider adding language for-

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Mm-hmm

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... the use of independent redistricting commission to map out future

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maps.

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I know Orland has been pretty, I feel like has been pretty well

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in keeping national politics out of

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what we do here.

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So I feel like

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adding that extra step so that when future districting maps come

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about, we don't kind of fight over that.

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And so if we use an independent redistricting commission, that'll

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keep choosing the maps or

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it'll allow the voters to choose their league instead of us up here

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choosing who our voters league will be.

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So-

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Okay. So-

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So if I could suggest-

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Sure

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... yeah, a way to kind of address that.

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Yeah.

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I think that's a good... One of the reasons why I want to put this on for regular

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business, so what we can do is put it on.

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There isn't really a rush now that we're going to wait.

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Right.

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So we'll put this on, and then we can have that discussion.

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Sure. I just wanted to make sure so we don't-

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Thank you

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... go to that discussion and then-

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Go-

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... wait for that.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Okay, administrative business. Council accomplishments, reports, and

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commissions.

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We just have our list of reports and commissions.

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Yeah, we approved ours.

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Yeah.

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Two weeks

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ago.

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And as was said,

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previous appointments were made in April

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after Mr. Romal left the council. At this

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point in time, are there any changes that anyone would like to

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suggest? Any

513
00:24:56,968 --> 00:25:00,948
new appointments or anyone on any of the appointments that they'd like to

514
00:25:01,248 --> 00:25:02,208
discuss or change?

515
00:25:05,168 --> 00:25:09,108
Well, I have one for the Golden

516
00:25:09,168 --> 00:25:09,908
State GRSK team.

517
00:25:10,848 --> 00:25:14,408
I guess the meeting that I went to last week was the last one

518
00:25:14,928 --> 00:25:18,768
for that seat, and I guess it's moving to Crescent City, so they'll get a

519
00:25:18,828 --> 00:25:19,148
seat.

520
00:25:19,288 --> 00:25:20,188
Mm.

521
00:25:20,228 --> 00:25:20,458
We don't want-

522
00:25:20,668 --> 00:25:22,248
Yeah. Let's go with mine.

523
00:25:22,348 --> 00:25:23,188
Yeah.

524
00:25:25,728 --> 00:25:27,528
Okay. Anything else?

525
00:25:28,008 --> 00:25:28,088
No.

526
00:25:28,248 --> 00:25:29,588
No. How about you, John?

527
00:25:30,488 --> 00:25:31,628
No. I'm fine.

528
00:25:31,748 --> 00:25:32,148
Okay.

529
00:25:32,748 --> 00:25:35,478
So I'm the new guy here, literally first meeting,

530
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:40,148
so I know there would be some expectation that I would look for one of these where

531
00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:43,548
I may serve. And I will, in a future time, do that.

532
00:25:43,808 --> 00:25:47,548
Right now, what I've focused my time on is I've met with the four department

533
00:25:47,588 --> 00:25:47,898
heads,

534
00:25:48,788 --> 00:25:52,298
to get the lay of the land. I think eventually I'll get to see where

535
00:25:52,348 --> 00:25:56,268
these additional responsibilities fall and where I can be of some

536
00:25:56,308 --> 00:26:00,168
help. But I'd let the mayor know when we talk about this, that I'll be here to

537
00:26:00,208 --> 00:26:03,268
help. I'm just not ready to commit to one of those commissions tonight.

538
00:26:04,508 --> 00:26:05,168
Okay.

539
00:26:07,548 --> 00:26:11,448
That leaves me, and I have a pretty hefty schedule that

540
00:26:11,528 --> 00:26:15,248
is hard. I was explaining to Wade

541
00:26:15,388 --> 00:26:15,648
that

542
00:26:16,448 --> 00:26:19,968
trying to be effective with this many that I'm trying to learn,

543
00:26:20,368 --> 00:26:24,148
as well as keep up with on a monthly basis, has been a little

544
00:26:24,188 --> 00:26:26,788
overwhelming for me. I literally

545
00:26:27,908 --> 00:26:29,968
am on 13 different committees.

546
00:26:31,568 --> 00:26:35,238
Many of those are monthly. Some of them are every other

547
00:26:35,328 --> 00:26:39,228
month. But I am hoping that at least one

548
00:26:39,288 --> 00:26:43,188
other member here would be willing to take one of them from me.

549
00:26:43,308 --> 00:26:46,988
The ones that regularly meet are Arts, Library,

550
00:26:47,168 --> 00:26:50,458
and Waste Management, the Groundwater

551
00:26:50,548 --> 00:26:52,208
Sustainability Agency.

552
00:26:53,248 --> 00:26:57,188
And I'd like to keep Arts, but if there is another member

553
00:26:57,348 --> 00:27:01,088
here that might be able to step forward and take the Groundwater

554
00:27:01,168 --> 00:27:05,128
Sustainability or the Waste Management, that would really help.

555
00:27:05,597 --> 00:27:07,488
Is there anybody here that might be able to take that?

556
00:27:08,008 --> 00:27:11,428
Mayor, just to help you out on the Groundwater, too, once we have

557
00:27:12,908 --> 00:27:16,748
Zach here, we can always send him your project, have him be

558
00:27:16,768 --> 00:27:17,408
put for that.

559
00:27:17,528 --> 00:27:19,868
That's it. Need an appointment, though.

560
00:27:19,928 --> 00:27:23,708
I find that each time I try to change something, I have to go to county

561
00:27:23,828 --> 00:27:25,148
City Selection Committee.

562
00:27:25,508 --> 00:27:26,478
Because they're already assigned.

563
00:27:26,488 --> 00:27:29,528
We have, I think we have a seat there, and then Zach, as well.

564
00:27:30,268 --> 00:27:33,088
So I remember that we dealt with that last time.

565
00:27:33,097 --> 00:27:33,097
Okay.

566
00:27:33,148 --> 00:27:35,868
So that'll help you out there. And then other than that,

567
00:27:36,688 --> 00:27:38,768
obviously you have your stuff you like.

568
00:27:38,928 --> 00:27:42,848
If you could wait just a meeting or so, because then

569
00:27:43,008 --> 00:27:46,478
Wade will figure out where he wants to help us out, too, because I'm looking at it

570
00:27:46,488 --> 00:27:47,328
here thinking,

571
00:27:48,848 --> 00:27:50,208
"Yeah, let's see what you like."

572
00:27:50,468 --> 00:27:53,548
They were good in it. Okay. Well, Zach, if you-

573
00:27:54,168 --> 00:27:57,828
Mayor, I think I need to verify with the

574
00:27:57,888 --> 00:28:01,608
county first to make sure it's not one of

575
00:28:01,808 --> 00:28:03,808
the council members, because he is staff.

576
00:28:04,668 --> 00:28:06,468
I just want to verify first with Zach, okay?

577
00:28:07,078 --> 00:28:07,078
Sure.

578
00:28:07,108 --> 00:28:08,868
Yeah, I don't know, so I need to verify.

579
00:28:08,877 --> 00:28:09,097
I think we have-

580
00:28:09,148 --> 00:28:09,668
Yeah. Okay

581
00:28:10,048 --> 00:28:10,048
...

582
00:28:11,528 --> 00:28:11,768
to be

583
00:28:13,008 --> 00:28:13,948
discussing further.

584
00:28:15,588 --> 00:28:17,348
I think it's worth it. He

585
00:28:18,168 --> 00:28:18,528
likes.

586
00:28:19,608 --> 00:28:19,758
Okay.

587
00:28:19,758 --> 00:28:19,948
Okay?

588
00:28:20,908 --> 00:28:24,828
Okay. We're doing that for now. We'll move on to the next

589
00:28:24,888 --> 00:28:28,048
one for proposed SB 1 funded project, road repair and

590
00:28:28,088 --> 00:28:30,228
accountability, Paul Ravo, Public Works.

591
00:28:34,688 --> 00:28:36,408
Good evening, Mayor, council members.

592
00:28:37,648 --> 00:28:39,098
We've got a report here

593
00:28:40,567 --> 00:28:42,748
that we bring up every single year.

594
00:28:42,868 --> 00:28:46,658
It's for the use of Senate Bill 1, Road

595
00:28:46,748 --> 00:28:50,068
Repair and Accountability Act of 2017 funds.

596
00:28:51,268 --> 00:28:54,828
This was passed by the state legislature, signed into law,

597
00:28:55,248 --> 00:28:57,468
and essentially they

598
00:28:58,828 --> 00:29:02,548
set aside a certain amount of funding each year for every

599
00:29:02,628 --> 00:29:05,988
agency, and then that money is used towards

600
00:29:06,008 --> 00:29:09,288
projects that we want to get done. And it's

601
00:29:09,488 --> 00:29:12,808
specifically road. It's not trying to

602
00:29:14,668 --> 00:29:17,568
beautify, like the bee sculptures or something like that on I-5.

603
00:29:18,168 --> 00:29:18,748
So,

604
00:29:19,708 --> 00:29:23,388
we put together a list of projects that are found in the

605
00:29:23,448 --> 00:29:24,408
resolution there,

606
00:29:25,568 --> 00:29:29,328
items 2A through I. And

607
00:29:29,908 --> 00:29:32,648
the funds can be used for construction,

608
00:29:33,688 --> 00:29:35,548
putting in curb, gutter, sidewalk,

609
00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:37,988
roadway rehabilitation.

610
00:29:39,608 --> 00:29:43,468
We've also used it in the past for design services

611
00:29:43,788 --> 00:29:45,278
and construction management.

612
00:29:46,148 --> 00:29:47,848
Anything related to construction,

613
00:29:48,948 --> 00:29:50,608
and roadways specifically.

614
00:29:52,028 --> 00:29:54,808
So the projects that are listed here came out of the

615
00:29:55,668 --> 00:29:58,868
pavement management program that the county helped us prepare.

616
00:30:00,268 --> 00:30:04,048
And this is the starting point. I think in years past,

617
00:30:04,348 --> 00:30:08,268
some council members have had thoughts on other streets that they wanted to

618
00:30:08,308 --> 00:30:11,988
see done. This is just where I start with these

619
00:30:12,008 --> 00:30:13,108
projects, because it's

620
00:30:14,108 --> 00:30:17,788
kind of founded, as far as the roads have been assessed

621
00:30:17,908 --> 00:30:18,448
and

622
00:30:19,328 --> 00:30:23,008
a certain quality has been determined for them and,

623
00:30:23,188 --> 00:30:24,668
yeah. It gives me the starting point.

624
00:30:24,728 --> 00:30:28,608
So if-If there's any questions

625
00:30:28,648 --> 00:30:31,048
about those projects, I'd be happy to answer.

626
00:30:32,008 --> 00:30:32,548
If there's

627
00:30:33,388 --> 00:30:34,968
no comments or any questions,

628
00:30:35,848 --> 00:30:39,438
then we recommend you adopt the

629
00:30:39,488 --> 00:30:42,628
resolution, because then we have to upload it to the state-

630
00:30:42,828 --> 00:30:43,208
Yeah

631
00:30:43,328 --> 00:30:47,228
... for them to know what we plan on doing and how we're going to use the funds.

632
00:30:47,258 --> 00:30:49,568
It's a part of their transparency. So.

633
00:30:51,048 --> 00:30:54,218
And then only the SB1 funds would be used for the

634
00:30:54,768 --> 00:30:58,208
maintenance and rehabilitation of the roadways. Yeah.

635
00:31:01,248 --> 00:31:02,408
Public comment, yes.

636
00:31:02,448 --> 00:31:06,168
Public comment on the SB1 discussion.

637
00:31:07,998 --> 00:31:08,508
Online?

638
00:31:09,548 --> 00:31:09,768
No.

639
00:31:11,588 --> 00:31:12,608
Okay. Council?

640
00:31:13,278 --> 00:31:13,278
Good.

641
00:31:14,008 --> 00:31:14,328
Casey.

642
00:31:14,808 --> 00:31:15,428
A few questions.

643
00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:20,608
These eight streets that

644
00:31:20,617 --> 00:31:23,928
you've listed, could they use up the entirety of the 244,000?

645
00:31:26,228 --> 00:31:29,768
It's possible. It just depends on how we get

646
00:31:31,128 --> 00:31:31,948
what we get for bids-

647
00:31:32,068 --> 00:31:32,118
Yeah

648
00:31:32,118 --> 00:31:33,778
... when we put them out. But-

649
00:31:34,488 --> 00:31:37,168
Those are just our shower guys table?

650
00:31:37,568 --> 00:31:41,538
Well, when I chose them, I try to choose them in a fashion, because

651
00:31:41,538 --> 00:31:45,298
this here has a lovely breakdown of what this

652
00:31:45,308 --> 00:31:48,028
consultant thought all the costs would be for each project.

653
00:31:48,128 --> 00:31:48,678
Mm-hmm.

654
00:31:48,678 --> 00:31:52,638
And I kind of adjusted a little bit for increasing construction

655
00:31:52,708 --> 00:31:56,308
costs. And so I do my best to come

656
00:31:56,368 --> 00:31:59,908
close to what the funds are that we have available.

657
00:32:00,608 --> 00:32:02,308
Thanks. And then I have a question about

658
00:32:05,688 --> 00:32:09,548
one of the streets you recommended, was recommended to

659
00:32:09,608 --> 00:32:12,688
have a rubberized cape seal or rubberized cape.

660
00:32:13,368 --> 00:32:13,588
Mm-hmm.

661
00:32:14,488 --> 00:32:15,068
Yeah, that was-

662
00:32:15,648 --> 00:32:16,408
What does that entail?

663
00:32:17,748 --> 00:32:21,648
So, most of the projects on here are a crack seal and

664
00:32:21,688 --> 00:32:23,488
then a slurry seal, so they go through...

665
00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:26,028
You've probably seen public works out there, right?

666
00:32:26,068 --> 00:32:29,908
And they just put some sealer and some cracks and

667
00:32:30,528 --> 00:32:33,488
hopefully you don't get water in there breaking the roadway apart further.

668
00:32:33,948 --> 00:32:36,868
And then they do a slurry seal, which is just like a-

669
00:32:37,248 --> 00:32:37,428
Mm-hmm

670
00:32:37,488 --> 00:32:39,908
... essentially looks like they're painting the road black, right?

671
00:32:40,068 --> 00:32:43,608
And then they re-stripe it. The rubberized cape seal

672
00:32:44,188 --> 00:32:47,788
is just a heavier duty version of a slurry seal.

673
00:32:48,568 --> 00:32:52,168
Are these all just... I'm fixated on the

674
00:32:52,208 --> 00:32:55,648
rubberized keyword. Are they all polymers?

675
00:32:55,728 --> 00:32:56,438
Are they all plastics?

676
00:32:56,808 --> 00:32:57,268
Um-

677
00:32:57,328 --> 00:32:57,808
I guess rubber?

678
00:32:59,188 --> 00:33:00,168
The crack sealing and

679
00:33:01,548 --> 00:33:02,018
the-

680
00:33:02,018 --> 00:33:03,528
It's kind of a bituminous thing.

681
00:33:04,608 --> 00:33:07,748
For the crack sealing and the slurry seal it's

682
00:33:08,808 --> 00:33:11,948
a petroleum kind of bituminous product.

683
00:33:11,957 --> 00:33:15,468
The rubberized cape, it's not like we're putting

684
00:33:15,508 --> 00:33:19,328
down a layer of rubber, it's just some of the

685
00:33:19,368 --> 00:33:22,718
material. It's like a Caltrans specification

686
00:33:23,908 --> 00:33:27,448
on materials that are used within that product.

687
00:33:27,457 --> 00:33:31,288
And so it's not like it's 100% rubber and we're going to be bouncing down the

688
00:33:31,308 --> 00:33:31,768
road, right?

689
00:33:31,818 --> 00:33:31,818
Right.

690
00:33:32,048 --> 00:33:34,368
It's just a small amount.

691
00:33:34,418 --> 00:33:34,418
Yeah.

692
00:33:34,428 --> 00:33:38,018
It's like, technically, say, if you're using a recycled asphalt

693
00:33:38,128 --> 00:33:41,928
pavement, they're using just a small portion.

694
00:33:42,088 --> 00:33:43,908
It's not the full thing, so.

695
00:33:44,968 --> 00:33:48,168
And how much better is that versus crack sealing or-

696
00:33:49,448 --> 00:33:53,018
Well, so the crack sealing and the slurry seal are

697
00:33:53,068 --> 00:33:54,588
for roads that

698
00:33:56,308 --> 00:34:00,208
are still in fairly good shape, and we're just trying to prevent them from falling

699
00:34:00,248 --> 00:34:03,568
apart. And I think in here, we have the estimated

700
00:34:03,608 --> 00:34:07,228
lifespans. Those crack seal and slurries are about a

701
00:34:07,268 --> 00:34:08,319
five to eight year

702
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:12,528
timeframe. And so, you kind of stay ahead of the game.

703
00:34:12,589 --> 00:34:14,188
That's kind of your preventative maintenance.

704
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:18,448
The rubberized cape seal means maybe the road is a little bit less

705
00:34:19,988 --> 00:34:21,658
condition or worse condition.

706
00:34:21,888 --> 00:34:21,897
Yeah.

707
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:24,438
And so you're just trying to give it that little extra oomph

708
00:34:25,268 --> 00:34:28,598
that the slurry seal can't do. And

709
00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:32,468
then you get to the other end and you're redoing the complete road

710
00:34:32,508 --> 00:34:36,468
because it's been too long. And so the

711
00:34:36,488 --> 00:34:39,728
slurry seal and the cape seal are a form of preventative maintenance.

712
00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:43,908
Okay. The main reason I ask is I keep seeing more and more

713
00:34:43,988 --> 00:34:45,388
studies about microplastics-

714
00:34:45,908 --> 00:34:45,919
Mm-hmm

715
00:34:45,928 --> 00:34:48,988
... in the environment, and the rubberized seal being an

716
00:34:49,008 --> 00:34:52,288
additional microplastic that will eventually leach into our

717
00:34:52,308 --> 00:34:53,348
waters.

718
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:55,308
So

719
00:34:56,649 --> 00:34:58,808
if it doesn't provide too much extra

720
00:34:59,668 --> 00:35:03,048
usefulness to the road, I'd rather you avoid using that, unless

721
00:35:03,788 --> 00:35:05,348
you feel that it is

722
00:35:06,508 --> 00:35:10,128
equivalent to slurry sealing or crack

723
00:35:10,468 --> 00:35:10,728
sealing,

724
00:35:11,668 --> 00:35:15,228
or the same as having someone burning up.

725
00:35:16,728 --> 00:35:17,448
Well, we can

726
00:35:18,548 --> 00:35:19,688
always visit the method.

727
00:35:21,008 --> 00:35:23,268
I guess for right now,

728
00:35:25,548 --> 00:35:29,528
just to use the funds, we have to say these are the projects and if we

729
00:35:30,048 --> 00:35:33,548
can take a look at that, and if we go, "Hey, rubberized

730
00:35:33,608 --> 00:35:35,298
is something we can

731
00:35:36,368 --> 00:35:40,168
avoid using that on that particular road, and we can use this other method,"

732
00:35:40,208 --> 00:35:41,808
then we can definitely look into that.

733
00:35:42,088 --> 00:35:43,528
That's all good. Thank you.

734
00:35:43,728 --> 00:35:43,738
Mm-hmm.

735
00:35:43,738 --> 00:35:43,928
Ben.

736
00:35:44,328 --> 00:35:48,188
I would move to adopt resolution 2026

737
00:35:48,228 --> 00:35:51,808
next in line and authorize the city manager as designee to submit to the

738
00:35:51,868 --> 00:35:54,528
California Transportation Commission, the city's

739
00:35:54,668 --> 00:35:58,228
2026-27 SB1 project list.

740
00:35:58,288 --> 00:36:01,328
We're really getting the backbone questions. Great job, big brother.

741
00:36:01,708 --> 00:36:05,598
Hey, just a quick end point. So we're talking about last week's.

742
00:36:05,848 --> 00:36:06,798
I know. Amy,

743
00:36:07,688 --> 00:36:11,568
what's up with the... Is the bridge going to get done on Shasta that crosses in

744
00:36:11,608 --> 00:36:13,648
Brian, basically? Or are they just going to stop there

745
00:36:13,708 --> 00:36:17,808
at...

746
00:36:17,908 --> 00:36:18,418
Because-

747
00:36:18,418 --> 00:36:19,348
Because you don't like that bridge?

748
00:36:20,328 --> 00:36:23,128
Yeah, because we keep bottleneck right here with it being fired, and I'm getting

749
00:36:23,208 --> 00:36:25,968
tired of having the public trying to leave while we're trying to get in, and God

750
00:36:25,988 --> 00:36:28,308
loves them for leaving, but I'm getting interested in that.

751
00:36:28,648 --> 00:36:31,448
But my question is, is that part of the budget? That's all.

752
00:36:32,368 --> 00:36:35,628
It is currently included in the Shasta Street project, yes.

753
00:36:36,038 --> 00:36:36,038
Okay.

754
00:36:36,048 --> 00:36:39,816
And so this-By putting it

755
00:36:39,896 --> 00:36:43,816
on this list, we would be taking the approach that we did on Tehama,

756
00:36:44,096 --> 00:36:47,856
and that would be we're using the SB1 funds to help

757
00:36:47,916 --> 00:36:51,586
us with the design, the environmental, some of those preliminary and

758
00:36:51,636 --> 00:36:55,475
design portions, because then the construction money is a

759
00:36:55,536 --> 00:36:56,836
different funding source.

760
00:36:57,096 --> 00:36:57,296
Right.

761
00:36:57,376 --> 00:37:00,156
And we would like to use all of that construction

762
00:37:00,176 --> 00:37:01,536
money.

763
00:37:01,576 --> 00:37:03,296
We need to break it down at least.

764
00:37:04,436 --> 00:37:08,066
We only get 20 years worth. That's just pretty much the way that it shapes for

765
00:37:08,156 --> 00:37:10,816
everything they have funded. My only thing is we're going to be building houses

766
00:37:10,836 --> 00:37:12,276
all. We've already talked about it.

767
00:37:12,456 --> 00:37:12,576
Yep.

768
00:37:12,586 --> 00:37:15,736
But if we can just make sure that gets at least designed or something.

769
00:37:15,776 --> 00:37:15,956
Yeah.

770
00:37:16,236 --> 00:37:17,876
Because, yeah, nothing we can do this year.

771
00:37:17,976 --> 00:37:19,376
It's on the wish list, I think.

772
00:37:19,756 --> 00:37:20,696
It's got the approval.

773
00:37:20,776 --> 00:37:22,396
My only question is that,

774
00:37:23,396 --> 00:37:27,076
it references the city uses its existing budget

775
00:37:27,136 --> 00:37:30,516
together with the SB1 funds. Does that mean the budget that we have for

776
00:37:30,736 --> 00:37:34,696
2026, '27 that we're creating now, or should we have

777
00:37:34,776 --> 00:37:38,136
funds left over from '25, '26? Where are we going to get the money to pay our

778
00:37:38,216 --> 00:37:40,636
portion of this? Do we have an idea?

779
00:37:41,016 --> 00:37:42,796
What portion? What do you mean by portion?

780
00:37:43,796 --> 00:37:44,086
I think it's-

781
00:37:44,136 --> 00:37:47,436
Well, it says we have to use our existing budget with the

782
00:37:47,596 --> 00:37:51,206
SB1 funds to do these

783
00:37:51,216 --> 00:37:51,816
projects.

784
00:37:52,816 --> 00:37:55,516
Because this always goes in the budget. That's what...

785
00:37:56,596 --> 00:37:57,336
Yeah. So,

786
00:37:59,316 --> 00:38:03,036
I guess what I would say is sometimes there is a potential that,

787
00:38:03,956 --> 00:38:07,516
depending on how the bids come in, that the SB1

788
00:38:07,616 --> 00:38:11,556
funds can't cover all of the projects that

789
00:38:11,596 --> 00:38:15,456
we want to do. And we can make the decision at

790
00:38:15,516 --> 00:38:19,336
that time that, hey, we're only going to do six of the eight projects

791
00:38:19,756 --> 00:38:20,106
and that-

792
00:38:20,106 --> 00:38:22,296
Then we can adjust that. It's not a sharing thing.

793
00:38:22,496 --> 00:38:24,856
We don't have the money unless you put in your own portion.

794
00:38:25,716 --> 00:38:25,896
No.

795
00:38:26,856 --> 00:38:26,866
Okay.

796
00:38:26,876 --> 00:38:30,536
As far as I know, yeah, this funding does not require a match from the

797
00:38:30,916 --> 00:38:31,876
local agency.

798
00:38:32,046 --> 00:38:33,336
Okay. Just making sure. Thank you.

799
00:38:33,616 --> 00:38:33,676
Mm-hmm.

800
00:38:33,696 --> 00:38:36,076
I think that's all. Vote for it. We may found a motion.

801
00:38:36,136 --> 00:38:36,976
I made the motion.

802
00:38:37,016 --> 00:38:37,176
Yes.

803
00:38:37,216 --> 00:38:38,136
We're just waiting for a second.

804
00:38:38,376 --> 00:38:39,436
Second the motion.

805
00:38:40,856 --> 00:38:43,376
Okay, motion has been seconded. All those in favor?

806
00:38:43,566 --> 00:38:44,176
Aye.

807
00:38:45,896 --> 00:38:46,046
Aye.

808
00:38:46,046 --> 00:38:46,456
Motion carried.

809
00:38:48,555 --> 00:38:52,376
All right. Going to move to the Arts Commission finance.

810
00:38:52,496 --> 00:38:53,136
Janet Blackmer.

811
00:38:53,736 --> 00:38:55,676
Thank you, Mayor and city council members.

812
00:38:56,336 --> 00:38:56,556
So,

813
00:38:57,936 --> 00:39:00,996
the Arts Commission was created by the Oregon Municipal Code,

814
00:39:01,636 --> 00:39:05,576
and as determined by the language in the code, they receive one quarter

815
00:39:05,716 --> 00:39:09,316
of 1% of any revenue from qualified building permits.

816
00:39:10,156 --> 00:39:13,816
And as we alluded to earlier, that means something that gets

817
00:39:13,856 --> 00:39:17,116
federal funding or like the self-help homes,

818
00:39:17,596 --> 00:39:18,136
they

819
00:39:18,976 --> 00:39:22,576
would not be required to contribute to the Arts Commission fund.

820
00:39:23,336 --> 00:39:27,056
And so again, a monthly report is compiled, and has been

821
00:39:27,136 --> 00:39:31,056
since the beginning, and it's submitted to the Arts Commission for their review

822
00:39:31,096 --> 00:39:33,256
at a public hearing. Now,

823
00:39:34,466 --> 00:39:38,396
in a recent audit of the commission's financial status, it

824
00:39:38,436 --> 00:39:42,345
was determined that the revenue amount reported to the commission did not

825
00:39:42,476 --> 00:39:44,636
match what was in the city's financial program.

826
00:39:45,296 --> 00:39:48,956
So because of this, the commission found their balance to be such

827
00:39:48,996 --> 00:39:51,236
amount, which is approximately 5,000.

828
00:39:52,596 --> 00:39:55,896
I can't give you to date, because I know some funds have been coming in.

829
00:39:56,596 --> 00:39:58,876
But they had to review their expenses going forward.

830
00:39:59,216 --> 00:40:03,176
Moreover, upon review of future city projects, and that's when I allude

831
00:40:03,256 --> 00:40:03,476
to

832
00:40:04,416 --> 00:40:08,065
when things are being constructed, and we are seeing houses being built, that those

833
00:40:08,116 --> 00:40:09,336
are the self-help houses.

834
00:40:09,406 --> 00:40:09,406
Yeah.

835
00:40:09,416 --> 00:40:11,526
So they're not charged an assessment.

836
00:40:12,516 --> 00:40:12,776
So,

837
00:40:13,896 --> 00:40:17,136
when we looked at that, it was determined that additional revenues could not be

838
00:40:17,176 --> 00:40:18,916
expected in the near future.

839
00:40:19,816 --> 00:40:23,456
So at their meeting, at the Arts Commission's meeting of May 6th, a few

840
00:40:23,516 --> 00:40:26,836
expenses were eliminated, and a means of building

841
00:40:27,156 --> 00:40:30,736
revenues were discussed. And the commission proposes to create a

842
00:40:31,016 --> 00:40:34,936
GoFundMe page, and that was at the time of this agenda, to collect revenue to

843
00:40:34,976 --> 00:40:38,176
make up for the shortfall. We don't have any recommendation

844
00:40:39,076 --> 00:40:42,996
of... It's just purely to let you know what's the status of the Arts

845
00:40:43,006 --> 00:40:44,136
Commission at this point.

846
00:40:44,976 --> 00:40:45,996
You have any questions?

847
00:40:49,236 --> 00:40:51,436
Okay. Now I'll open it to public comment.

848
00:40:59,696 --> 00:41:00,796
Okay. Any online?

849
00:41:02,156 --> 00:41:02,256
No.

850
00:41:02,485 --> 00:41:02,796
Nobody.

851
00:41:04,436 --> 00:41:04,776
Jill.

852
00:41:05,356 --> 00:41:05,496
My

853
00:41:05,506 --> 00:41:11,016
name

854
00:41:11,036 --> 00:41:14,976
is Jill Elliott. I am on the Orland Arts Commission.

855
00:41:14,996 --> 00:41:16,236
I live here in town. I was-

856
00:41:16,416 --> 00:41:19,976
Jill, could you please speak into for those people online?

857
00:41:20,016 --> 00:41:20,556
Thank you.

858
00:41:22,276 --> 00:41:22,976
I just wanted

859
00:41:23,996 --> 00:41:27,856
it to be noted that the amount our

860
00:41:28,556 --> 00:41:31,916
account was reduced by was $24,000.

861
00:41:31,936 --> 00:41:32,076
Oh.

862
00:41:33,236 --> 00:41:37,176
So it has left us in a

863
00:41:37,396 --> 00:41:38,516
sudden

864
00:41:39,696 --> 00:41:43,316
lurch. So I just wanted that to be brought

865
00:41:43,376 --> 00:41:44,196
forward.

866
00:41:45,236 --> 00:41:45,816
And

867
00:41:46,716 --> 00:41:48,216
it's a lot of money.

868
00:41:49,216 --> 00:41:50,036
Yeah. So

869
00:41:51,276 --> 00:41:52,456
I just wanted you to know.

870
00:41:55,316 --> 00:41:56,156
I think I have a question for you.

871
00:41:56,176 --> 00:41:56,186
Okay.

872
00:41:56,196 --> 00:41:57,456
And thank you for being here.

873
00:41:58,136 --> 00:41:58,556
Right.

874
00:41:58,656 --> 00:42:00,036
I want to make sure I understand.

875
00:42:00,956 --> 00:42:03,616
Does the Arts Commission get a number

876
00:42:04,196 --> 00:42:05,816
projected from the city

877
00:42:06,856 --> 00:42:10,656
that you were operating on, and then the number didn't come out right

878
00:42:10,736 --> 00:42:13,356
because we didn't have enough projects that committed to it or?

879
00:42:13,596 --> 00:42:15,366
There was no projection. We did-

880
00:42:15,416 --> 00:42:16,906
How did the shortfall happen?

881
00:42:17,596 --> 00:42:18,976
There was a review,

882
00:42:20,516 --> 00:42:21,796
how Janet explained it,

883
00:42:22,696 --> 00:42:25,116
and the main

884
00:42:26,216 --> 00:42:29,456
accounting system with this city did not

885
00:42:32,056 --> 00:42:35,736
relate to our monthly financial

886
00:42:35,796 --> 00:42:38,836
report that we get from Leti. And so,

887
00:42:39,856 --> 00:42:42,856
it was determined that there had been an

888
00:42:42,916 --> 00:42:46,736
erroneous or just a mistaken

889
00:42:46,836 --> 00:42:50,636
entry back in 2022 that gave usUm,

890
00:42:51,376 --> 00:42:55,226
an impact fee of $24,000, um, and

891
00:42:55,296 --> 00:42:59,266
some change. And so that was carried along on

892
00:42:59,296 --> 00:43:02,956
the financial report since 2022, but then about a month ago,

893
00:43:03,656 --> 00:43:06,276
it came to light that that was a mistake.

894
00:43:06,696 --> 00:43:07,496
And so-

895
00:43:08,136 --> 00:43:09,496
Boy, that's a big one, huh?

896
00:43:09,716 --> 00:43:10,236
Yeah.

897
00:43:10,336 --> 00:43:10,596
Yeah.

898
00:43:10,606 --> 00:43:10,876
It's-

899
00:43:11,176 --> 00:43:13,716
So were those funds actually transferred, or they were just on your

900
00:43:14,876 --> 00:43:16,136
budget as expected?

901
00:43:16,536 --> 00:43:17,856
They were

902
00:43:21,696 --> 00:43:25,656
added to our financial report as a

903
00:43:26,056 --> 00:43:26,556
incoming-

904
00:43:26,576 --> 00:43:27,136
As an asset

905
00:43:27,196 --> 00:43:29,416
... fee. Yes, as an asset.

906
00:43:29,516 --> 00:43:29,796
Okay.

907
00:43:29,876 --> 00:43:33,336
But it was really, the number was

908
00:43:33,656 --> 00:43:37,616
not a real number. It was just a, um, running

909
00:43:37,696 --> 00:43:41,506
balance or something that just got added in by mistake and

910
00:43:41,576 --> 00:43:44,056
had, um, no connection to anything.

911
00:43:45,136 --> 00:43:45,456
Mm-hmm.

912
00:43:46,876 --> 00:43:50,576
Um, but we just didn't know because it said an impact fee, and at the time we were

913
00:43:50,596 --> 00:43:52,216
getting a lot of impact fees.

914
00:43:53,146 --> 00:43:53,146
Yeah.

915
00:43:53,156 --> 00:43:56,016
The city, you know, the city what's in 2022.

916
00:43:57,276 --> 00:43:59,276
It helps to know that, understand that. Thank you.

917
00:44:00,136 --> 00:44:00,896
You're welcome.

918
00:44:02,356 --> 00:44:04,146
You wanted to make the other kind of mistake.

919
00:44:04,296 --> 00:44:05,375
What do you think?

920
00:44:05,436 --> 00:44:06,896
You're getting money you didn't know that.

921
00:44:07,036 --> 00:44:09,095
Or you think you're getting money,

922
00:44:09,976 --> 00:44:10,466
whatever.

923
00:44:11,286 --> 00:44:14,816
So, anyways, um, I don't know if anybody have any other question.

924
00:44:15,016 --> 00:44:17,016
Has the GoFundMe page been created?

925
00:44:17,236 --> 00:44:20,696
No. Not that I'm aware of. This just, um, because it

926
00:44:20,756 --> 00:44:24,696
happened just a month ago or so, we've just been,

927
00:44:25,636 --> 00:44:29,136
um, trying to decide what to do because we have

928
00:44:29,176 --> 00:44:33,056
certain expenses every month, like our rent and heat we

929
00:44:33,096 --> 00:44:33,596
need.

930
00:44:33,676 --> 00:44:33,886
Mm-hmm.

931
00:44:34,216 --> 00:44:37,536
And all of a sudden we literally have about $5,000

932
00:44:37,576 --> 00:44:41,336
available, and our monthly expenses are, you know,

933
00:44:41,816 --> 00:44:45,576
just to keep the lights on and the rent are $1,000, and that's it go.

934
00:44:45,856 --> 00:44:46,735
A short window.

935
00:44:46,956 --> 00:44:48,276
Very short window.

936
00:44:48,336 --> 00:44:48,596
Mm-hmm.

937
00:44:49,216 --> 00:44:52,966
Yes. But we have put a call out and we're trying to do what we

938
00:44:53,016 --> 00:44:53,396
can.

939
00:44:58,036 --> 00:44:58,595
Thank you.

940
00:44:59,486 --> 00:44:59,956
Thank you.

941
00:45:01,276 --> 00:45:01,556
Thank you.

942
00:45:03,136 --> 00:45:06,566
My name's Janet Jonday. When I first moved to

943
00:45:06,596 --> 00:45:10,316
Orland and saw the Art Center, I was so

944
00:45:10,376 --> 00:45:14,296
amazed that a town this size would have an Art Center.

945
00:45:15,216 --> 00:45:17,156
Such an incredible

946
00:45:20,376 --> 00:45:20,916
display

947
00:45:22,716 --> 00:45:26,436
and art from farther away. It's really wonderful.

948
00:45:26,516 --> 00:45:26,696
So

949
00:45:27,856 --> 00:45:31,786
I hope that we as a community can join together and

950
00:45:31,816 --> 00:45:34,556
find a way to continue to support the Arts Commission.

951
00:45:34,636 --> 00:45:38,016
I know they do more than just manage the Art

952
00:45:38,136 --> 00:45:39,356
Center. Uh,

953
00:45:40,396 --> 00:45:43,836
I feel I've been a recipient of the bounty that

954
00:45:44,376 --> 00:45:47,136
Art Center and the Arts Commission has provided.

955
00:45:48,296 --> 00:45:49,556
And I would be happy to

956
00:45:50,396 --> 00:45:52,396
donate to the GoFundMe.

957
00:45:53,836 --> 00:45:57,816
Um, hearing Valerie talk about the gala that raised money for,

958
00:45:58,296 --> 00:46:02,016
for her animal, uh, spay and neuter surg- surgical

959
00:46:02,096 --> 00:46:02,436
center.

960
00:46:03,516 --> 00:46:07,476
There must be many ideas we could come up with to, um,

961
00:46:08,196 --> 00:46:08,856
as a community,

962
00:46:09,736 --> 00:46:13,596
put the word out and, and have some kind of celebration of the arts

963
00:46:13,656 --> 00:46:15,616
that could bring in money that kind of thing.

964
00:46:16,236 --> 00:46:17,096
So, um, I'm

965
00:46:17,916 --> 00:46:20,696
willing to do my part and I hope that we can find a

966
00:46:20,716 --> 00:46:23,716
way to rectify the situation.

967
00:46:24,016 --> 00:46:24,516
Thank you.

968
00:46:28,276 --> 00:46:29,116
Hello, Ray.

969
00:46:29,586 --> 00:46:29,586
Hello.

970
00:46:29,596 --> 00:46:30,596
Thank you for coming out.

971
00:46:31,576 --> 00:46:34,656
You're welcome. Tell me if you can hear me in the back.

972
00:46:35,216 --> 00:46:35,696
Yes, ma'am.

973
00:46:37,136 --> 00:46:37,376
Uh, we

974
00:46:38,416 --> 00:46:42,296
have already asked our patrons. One of the ways

975
00:46:42,316 --> 00:46:45,996
we generate our own income is to have

976
00:46:46,576 --> 00:46:50,156
people pay $50 a year, and they

977
00:46:50,196 --> 00:46:53,756
become a patron of the arts. We have already

978
00:46:53,766 --> 00:46:57,596
approached them and told them we are in dire straits

979
00:46:57,676 --> 00:47:00,945
through no fault of our own, and through a

980
00:47:01,076 --> 00:47:02,056
mistake that

981
00:47:02,876 --> 00:47:06,556
was not found for four years, we find

982
00:47:06,596 --> 00:47:08,936
ourselves in a very awkward position.

983
00:47:10,096 --> 00:47:12,636
We would have to close our doors,

984
00:47:13,616 --> 00:47:16,496
and we know that the community does not want that.

985
00:47:18,176 --> 00:47:18,496
Um,

986
00:47:19,336 --> 00:47:23,296
the biggest expense that we have, and would need help

987
00:47:23,396 --> 00:47:27,196
with, possibly if the city could help us with

988
00:47:27,216 --> 00:47:29,776
that, is our electric bill.

989
00:47:30,656 --> 00:47:34,466
It's huge, and we all know what those electric

990
00:47:34,836 --> 00:47:38,756
bills are like. If the city could find

991
00:47:38,816 --> 00:47:42,736
a way to just take our electrics bill, we

992
00:47:42,796 --> 00:47:44,596
could manage the rest of it.

993
00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:48,276
Um, I realize this is not a good time

994
00:47:49,196 --> 00:47:52,996
to ask the city to help us, because the city has

995
00:47:53,036 --> 00:47:56,616
its own problems of being over budget, et cetera.

996
00:47:57,776 --> 00:48:00,116
We're not looking for handouts.

997
00:48:01,556 --> 00:48:05,176
Although we are asking for them, and we have already had

998
00:48:05,816 --> 00:48:07,416
many people contributing,

999
00:48:08,336 --> 00:48:11,956
uh, and saying, "We want this to stay." So

1000
00:48:12,036 --> 00:48:15,776
realistically, we know that we bring something to the

1001
00:48:15,836 --> 00:48:19,446
city that it doesn't have without us, and that doesn't

1002
00:48:19,516 --> 00:48:22,436
count all of the special projects that we've done.

1003
00:48:23,056 --> 00:48:24,716
We want to keep going forward.

1004
00:48:25,656 --> 00:48:28,936
Anything that the city could come up with to help us

1005
00:48:29,636 --> 00:48:30,836
would be appreciated.

1006
00:48:32,276 --> 00:48:35,756
So that's basically it, and if you have any questions for me,

1007
00:48:36,476 --> 00:48:37,936
I'd be happy to answer them.

1008
00:48:38,776 --> 00:48:40,296
Thank you very much.

1009
00:48:40,376 --> 00:48:41,016
Thank you, Ray.

1010
00:48:42,476 --> 00:48:42,936
Steve.

1011
00:48:47,436 --> 00:48:51,376
Hi there. I'm Steve Elliot. Uh, I'm an Arts Commission- Arts Commissioner, and I

1012
00:48:51,436 --> 00:48:53,136
also am a citizen of Orland.

1013
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,900
The Arts Commission doesn't have their own money.

1014
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,260
Our funds come from the

1015
00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:05,260
city. So even the donations that we make

1016
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,440
essentially go into the city coffers.

1017
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,320
It's just that we have an accounting of our

1018
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,160
own, keeping track of the money that we spend and what we

1019
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,120
bring in. So

1020
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,320
yeah, those numbers,

1021
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,680
they're just on paper. They're not money in the bank.

1022
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,280
So that money never existed. So the problem, the real

1023
00:49:29,340 --> 00:49:30,300
pinch is that,

1024
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,140
if we had known a year ago the position that we were in, we could have

1025
00:49:36,180 --> 00:49:36,480
made

1026
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,380
provisions to keep ourselves going.

1027
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,140
But this came up so suddenly and left us with so

1028
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:48,220
little that we're scrambling to get donations

1029
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:49,120
and things like that,

1030
00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:52,370
just so that the obligations that we have...

1031
00:49:52,420 --> 00:49:55,640
We have a show that's running right now that's supposed to run through-

1032
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:58,820
June

1033
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:02,950
... June. And we're not even sure we're going to have the door open for that one.

1034
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,960
We have a big show planned for July.

1035
00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:09,480
And we don't want to see the doors closed at all, but

1036
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:12,880
we've put a lot of work into

1037
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,600
what's happening and what will happen in the gallery.

1038
00:50:16,700 --> 00:50:20,420
So I don't know what the answer is, but just want to let you know what our

1039
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,060
position is.

1040
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,220
Thank you, Steve.

1041
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,870
Okay, do we have other

1042
00:50:27,220 --> 00:50:29,340
comments on this?

1043
00:50:30,020 --> 00:50:31,680
Yes, ma'am.

1044
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,700
Real quick question. You mentioned about the electric bill.

1045
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:37,890
How much is it?

1046
00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:43,480
I would defer that to Jill, who's previously been the treasurer for

1047
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,380
the commission. The question is, how much is the electric bill

1048
00:50:47,860 --> 00:50:48,220
a month?

1049
00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:54,420
About $50 per month. Like in July, maybe it's

1050
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,360
$1,200 and it just ebbs and flows month by month.

1051
00:50:58,420 --> 00:51:02,340
Yeah. The summertime is the worst, but that's also some of the best

1052
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,340
time for their shows because we have downtown and pickups happening

1053
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,080
and things.

1054
00:51:07,090 --> 00:51:07,880
I just thought if we had that

1055
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:10,200
figure in mind, maybe it would

1056
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,680
give us some idea.

1057
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,840
Okay. Thank you. I think from, I'm the liaison with the

1058
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,200
Arts Commission, and I think our discussions

1059
00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:23,930
led to it being probably an average of $1,000 a month.

1060
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,820
When you take the months that aren't quite so bad and then you add the months that

1061
00:51:27,860 --> 00:51:31,480
are summer months and the air conditioning's running, it runs about $1,000 a month.

1062
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,680
Between $800 and $1,000 a month, somewhere in there.

1063
00:51:35,740 --> 00:51:37,850
Roland Knight, Economic Development Commission.

1064
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,380
I don't know what the roof looks like over there, but possibly throwing some solar

1065
00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:44,920
panels helps offset some of that electric bill. It helps me in the summer.

1066
00:51:46,020 --> 00:51:46,840
It helps me.

1067
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,580
The way I look at it, my solar pays for my AC in the summer.

1068
00:51:51,660 --> 00:51:53,360
That's about it. But it helps.

1069
00:51:53,940 --> 00:51:54,720
Good suggestion.

1070
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,480
Okay.

1071
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,260
Always sunny in Morganton City.

1072
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,460
We are more than grateful for our community, and we

1073
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,220
know the struggles of starting a small

1074
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:16,740
nonprofit to get going and off the ground and become

1075
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,980
sustainable. We've had our ups and downs, for sure.

1076
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,310
And we're at that point where we are becoming very sustainable on our own,

1077
00:52:24,820 --> 00:52:28,660
so we want to be a nonprofit that actually gives back, just like the

1078
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,540
City of Willow, the Willows Thrift Shop does

1079
00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:36,420
that with their thrift shop, and they've helped us the last couple of years, which

1080
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,990
is really amazing how everybody comes together.

1081
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,180
And with that, we'd be more than happy to put together a fundraiser for the Art

1082
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,240
Commission and help them in any way that we can to give

1083
00:52:48,380 --> 00:52:52,190
back and help them with their PG&E bill or their rent, however we could

1084
00:52:52,820 --> 00:52:53,760
with from the Cats.

1085
00:52:54,820 --> 00:52:55,100
Thanks.

1086
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,940
Great. Thank you, Valerie. Any other thoughts in the audience?

1087
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,060
Okay. We're going to get things all done.

1088
00:53:04,820 --> 00:53:08,790
No, I just thought I will shake some trees for you and see if we can get something

1089
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:12,580
nice from that. And appreciate what you guys do, y'all always show

1090
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:12,820
up.

1091
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,560
But I know that's the animal with community, so it's something we can do.

1092
00:53:17,580 --> 00:53:20,439
But no, appreciate it, and I'm sorry it had to happen.

1093
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:22,570
John,

1094
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:23,960
thoughts?

1095
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:24,640
No.

1096
00:53:26,260 --> 00:53:30,040
Well, Steve, with whom I share a last name and striking good

1097
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:30,360
looks-

1098
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,370
... I'll see what I can do as well. As I heard John mention, I

1099
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,000
think I can help connect you with some resources, too.

1100
00:53:39,460 --> 00:53:39,860
Okay.

1101
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,879
Thank you.

1102
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:44,870
And I'm not sure if this would come up during budget discussions, but

1103
00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:48,780
I did also had a thought, and I consider the art

1104
00:53:48,860 --> 00:53:52,850
gallery part of Orleans economic development, and this involved

1105
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:53,340
you, Art.

1106
00:53:54,780 --> 00:53:58,260
I know that we had some of those art funds that were for

1107
00:53:58,300 --> 00:53:59,680
possibly a city gate.

1108
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,300
Could we

1109
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,900
have a discussion with the Economic Development Commission that they might want to

1110
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,580
reassign some of those funds to another economic development

1111
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,360
project, which is the Arts Council?

1112
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,780
The money has been there for five years and not been used, and maybe that's

1113
00:54:15,790 --> 00:54:19,680
somewhere they could get a little piece of the action without trying to tap into

1114
00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:20,940
the general fund further.

1115
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,600
I believe that money still sits there. So anyways.

1116
00:54:26,260 --> 00:54:27,860
Around $30,000, $32,000.

1117
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:28,660
Yeah.

1118
00:54:28,990 --> 00:54:29,460
We're open to that.

1119
00:54:29,490 --> 00:54:33,320
Now, I don't know if that means we need to refer the council, the Arts Commission,

1120
00:54:33,460 --> 00:54:37,280
to go before the... This is a question for you, Scott, to go

1121
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,060
before the Economic Development Commission to ask their thoughts on

1122
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,700
that. It's money that's within their coffers.

1123
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,880
It's in their ability to use those funds.

1124
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:47,920
Yeah, that would be fine.

1125
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:48,680
Okay.

1126
00:54:48,690 --> 00:54:51,000
And we don't have an actual budget, but we can-

1127
00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:52,180
But those funds-

1128
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:52,400
We have-

1129
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,450
... are earmarked for the EDC to decide how to use them, enable the

1130
00:54:56,460 --> 00:54:59,008
application.To make a reservation

1131
00:54:59,048 --> 00:55:01,388
Once you've been sent elsewhere, you have to make the reservation to send

1132
00:55:01,448 --> 00:55:01,868
elsewhere.

1133
00:55:01,988 --> 00:55:02,228
And?

1134
00:55:02,448 --> 00:55:03,808
The only caveat with that is

1135
00:55:05,068 --> 00:55:07,128
we haven't had an EDC meeting in three months-

1136
00:55:07,168 --> 00:55:07,268
Oh

1137
00:55:07,308 --> 00:55:08,968
... because of the city

1138
00:55:10,088 --> 00:55:13,708
manager situation. So as soon as that could get tied up, we

1139
00:55:14,327 --> 00:55:16,728
can have a meeting so that we could discuss it.

1140
00:55:16,888 --> 00:55:20,328
Can you not have a meeting without a city manager? Or why?

1141
00:55:21,128 --> 00:55:21,648
I don't know if it's-

1142
00:55:21,908 --> 00:55:22,788
That's always the way

1143
00:55:22,798 --> 00:55:23,468
... that's the way it is, but there's-

1144
00:55:23,748 --> 00:55:27,608
And that's a rule? That's the one that runs the meeting.

1145
00:55:27,628 --> 00:55:28,878
Is the city manager.

1146
00:55:28,948 --> 00:55:30,928
And we rely on them for

1147
00:55:32,088 --> 00:55:35,828
roles, history, a lot of stuff like you do.

1148
00:55:36,588 --> 00:55:37,128
They're kind of-

1149
00:55:38,018 --> 00:55:38,868
Is there any way we can-

1150
00:55:39,248 --> 00:55:40,178
I'm sorry. Sorry.

1151
00:55:40,748 --> 00:55:44,388
We can schedule a meeting. We can schedule a meeting just

1152
00:55:44,448 --> 00:55:46,448
specifically for this one agenda item.

1153
00:55:46,728 --> 00:55:50,528
With Janet's situation and our situation, we

1154
00:55:50,548 --> 00:55:54,168
didn't feel it was prudent to have an EDC meeting with her limited

1155
00:55:54,208 --> 00:55:54,868
hours with-

1156
00:55:55,408 --> 00:55:55,608
Right

1157
00:55:55,628 --> 00:55:57,307
... the budget situation the city's in.

1158
00:55:57,328 --> 00:55:59,448
We felt like her hours were more-

1159
00:56:00,028 --> 00:56:00,268
Okay

1160
00:56:00,428 --> 00:56:02,808
... appropriated to handle the big stuff.

1161
00:56:02,847 --> 00:56:06,328
But yeah, as soon as we have a meeting, we're more than willing

1162
00:56:06,388 --> 00:56:07,448
to.

1163
00:56:07,588 --> 00:56:10,768
Yeah, I think it's going to come back before us now that Mr.

1164
00:56:11,008 --> 00:56:13,728
Goodman has separated his employment.

1165
00:56:13,808 --> 00:56:17,728
We will be in the search, and the problem is how long can the

1166
00:56:17,768 --> 00:56:21,728
arts commission hold out without additional funding.

1167
00:56:21,908 --> 00:56:25,308
Our next scheduled meeting is Tuesday, June 9th.

1168
00:56:25,558 --> 00:56:25,558
Okay.

1169
00:56:25,568 --> 00:56:27,698
Which is in two and a half weeks.

1170
00:56:28,128 --> 00:56:32,088
Okay, and we've also had a little bit of reprieve because Janet is free to

1171
00:56:32,168 --> 00:56:35,948
roam around for a little bit. But this also can be discussed during the

1172
00:56:35,988 --> 00:56:37,028
budget process.

1173
00:56:37,218 --> 00:56:37,788
Okay. Yeah.

1174
00:56:37,838 --> 00:56:39,488
This doesn't have to go to UNC.

1175
00:56:39,918 --> 00:56:39,918
Okay.

1176
00:56:39,928 --> 00:56:43,608
Because we still need to know how much is available still with the art program.

1177
00:56:43,648 --> 00:56:47,148
We're still budgeting. We are still in the budgeting, yes. The next meeting, right?

1178
00:56:47,248 --> 00:56:47,848
Do you want to send it over?

1179
00:56:47,928 --> 00:56:51,658
Yes. Yeah. Okay. We'll see what's available-

1180
00:56:52,188 --> 00:56:52,398
Okay

1181
00:56:52,398 --> 00:56:52,888
... in the budget.

1182
00:56:53,108 --> 00:56:55,868
If I could ask a question. Mr. Wine, thank you for that suggestion.

1183
00:56:55,928 --> 00:56:59,828
I think it's a great one. It could certainly bridge this gap,

1184
00:57:00,568 --> 00:57:01,748
maybe salve this

1185
00:57:03,308 --> 00:57:03,728
wound.

1186
00:57:04,728 --> 00:57:07,698
But the real question, Janet, can you attend the June 9th meeting on behalf of the

1187
00:57:07,807 --> 00:57:10,008
city and allow them to have that meeting so that-

1188
00:57:10,308 --> 00:57:10,408
Sure

1189
00:57:10,588 --> 00:57:12,988
... arts commission members could come and speak to them to the topic?

1190
00:57:15,088 --> 00:57:16,358
Yeah. We forget that-

1191
00:57:16,508 --> 00:57:18,958
There we go. I'm not trying to put pressure on anybody, just-

1192
00:57:19,248 --> 00:57:19,988
There's no pressure

1193
00:57:20,088 --> 00:57:23,228
... bringing it to the fact that we haven't had a meeting because of the

1194
00:57:23,248 --> 00:57:23,468
circumstances.

1195
00:57:23,508 --> 00:57:24,428
Thank you for letting us know that.

1196
00:57:24,608 --> 00:57:24,618
Okay.

1197
00:57:24,618 --> 00:57:25,628
It's important that you need it.

1198
00:57:25,968 --> 00:57:28,468
Okay. I

1199
00:57:29,408 --> 00:57:32,488
don't believe there's a committee of motion or action we can take other than just-

1200
00:57:32,538 --> 00:57:32,538
No

1201
00:57:32,538 --> 00:57:36,398
... thank you for the information, and thank you for your time to come out

1202
00:57:36,448 --> 00:57:40,388
tonight and I know you've been battling diligently to do everything you can.

1203
00:57:40,418 --> 00:57:43,888
And I put it on the agenda primarily because I wanted the transparency and the

1204
00:57:43,908 --> 00:57:47,877
public to know that they are attempting

1205
00:57:47,948 --> 00:57:51,898
to put together a GoFundMe page. And I did

1206
00:57:52,048 --> 00:57:55,168
check with the city attorney to make sure that that was something as the city we

1207
00:57:55,208 --> 00:57:58,638
were allowed to do, since the arts commission is a

1208
00:57:59,408 --> 00:58:01,258
commission authorized by the city.

1209
00:58:01,968 --> 00:58:05,548
So, I wanted this council to know that as well,

1210
00:58:05,848 --> 00:58:09,128
since all of you need to know what's going on, and I can't talk to them if I don't

1211
00:58:09,148 --> 00:58:13,088
get the okay. Okay? So I think we're in

1212
00:58:13,128 --> 00:58:16,838
a place that, cross our words, we're going to find some solutions for everything.

1213
00:58:17,288 --> 00:58:20,548
Okay? I think it's pretty unanimous up here.

1214
00:58:20,628 --> 00:58:21,988
We're going to find solutions.

1215
00:58:23,308 --> 00:58:25,888
Thank you. Thanks for everything you've done.

1216
00:58:25,928 --> 00:58:26,858
It's incredible,

1217
00:58:28,148 --> 00:58:32,128
this building. And the art is... I think that you're booked all the

1218
00:58:32,168 --> 00:58:35,688
way through the end of the year with shows, aren't you? Yes. You are.

1219
00:58:36,468 --> 00:58:38,748
Okay. Thank you very much. We're going to move on now.

1220
00:58:43,028 --> 00:58:46,328
All right. We have the hazardous material survey report for

1221
00:58:46,488 --> 00:58:49,848
824 Fourth Street, the Purity Building, and 912

1222
00:58:50,188 --> 00:58:53,368
Third Street, the Carnegie Hall. Janet?

1223
00:58:54,968 --> 00:58:57,128
Good evening again, Mayor and city council members.

1224
00:58:58,568 --> 00:59:01,868
I believe the council had authorized staff to execute a

1225
00:59:01,888 --> 00:59:05,698
$21,000 contract to conduct a comprehensive hazardous

1226
00:59:05,728 --> 00:59:09,558
material survey. They contracted with G-One Construction,

1227
00:59:09,728 --> 00:59:12,958
and they performed it with the assistance of Vista Environmental

1228
00:59:13,048 --> 00:59:16,748
Consulting. They performed pre-renovation

1229
00:59:16,788 --> 00:59:19,798
hazardous material surveys for the two buildings, as the mayor said.

1230
00:59:20,488 --> 00:59:24,238
This building, and also the former Purity building that's on Fourth

1231
00:59:24,248 --> 00:59:24,628
Street.

1232
00:59:25,668 --> 00:59:29,398
And this was done in January. The surveys were performed to identify and

1233
00:59:29,448 --> 00:59:33,208
sample accessible suspect asbestos-containing

1234
00:59:33,228 --> 00:59:37,168
materials, representative building components for the presence

1235
00:59:37,188 --> 00:59:40,548
of lead containing surface coatings, lead-based paints,

1236
00:59:41,208 --> 00:59:44,508
polychlorinated biphenyls, PCPs-

1237
00:59:44,678 --> 00:59:44,878
Mm

1238
00:59:44,948 --> 00:59:44,948
...

1239
00:59:45,788 --> 00:59:49,628
in light fixture ballasts and other hazardous materials that may be in the path of

1240
00:59:49,688 --> 00:59:53,288
a renovation project. So attached, I believe you

1241
00:59:53,788 --> 00:59:57,138
probably have reviewed the survey reports, and-

1242
00:59:57,348 --> 00:59:58,608
Let's see what's here

1243
00:59:58,648 --> 01:00:00,738
... it's structured with individual options.

1244
01:00:00,828 --> 01:00:03,988
The city can move forward with each scope independently or combined.

1245
01:00:04,708 --> 01:00:05,188
And

1246
01:00:06,028 --> 01:00:09,308
also, like I said, it's been separated out, combined or

1247
01:00:09,948 --> 01:00:13,708
together. Mr. Clark has been in contact

1248
01:00:14,368 --> 01:00:18,188
with the city manager, whoever they will be.

1249
01:00:19,868 --> 01:00:23,668
And he would be here tonight, but he was not able to make it.

1250
01:00:23,988 --> 01:00:27,728
He said it was not as bad for the asbestos as they thought, but there's a

1251
01:00:27,808 --> 01:00:28,708
lot of lead.

1252
01:00:29,548 --> 01:00:33,168
And so there might be, I don't know, they would like to go

1253
01:00:33,268 --> 01:00:36,688
into the, which is always covered in plastic.

1254
01:00:37,428 --> 01:00:41,368
They would like to go in there because they need to go, and they were not able

1255
01:00:41,448 --> 01:00:45,378
to get into that spot for this survey, but they still need

1256
01:00:45,388 --> 01:00:48,488
to get into the B ship, A ship? Is that what?

1257
01:00:48,518 --> 01:00:48,518
Yeah.

1258
01:00:48,548 --> 01:00:51,908
To see what else is in there. They think there might be something also in there.

1259
01:00:53,408 --> 01:00:54,808
Clearly, for your

1260
01:00:55,828 --> 01:00:59,328
review, there was impact

1261
01:00:59,388 --> 01:01:01,948
fees, but with this budget,

1262
01:01:02,808 --> 01:01:05,048
I don't believe there's that much in the

1263
01:01:06,228 --> 01:01:10,188
city hallUm, impact fees to pay

1264
01:01:10,248 --> 01:01:10,948
for all of this.

1265
01:01:12,308 --> 01:01:16,138
Purely just let the staff know your direction, what

1266
01:01:16,268 --> 01:01:17,868
you would like to do.

1267
01:01:19,548 --> 01:01:20,828
Okay, public comment?

1268
01:01:23,048 --> 01:01:23,568
Online?

1269
01:01:25,008 --> 01:01:27,568
No? Okay. Let's start on the other side then.

1270
01:01:30,408 --> 01:01:30,418
David?

1271
01:01:31,588 --> 01:01:35,228
For me it's like, are we in any danger right now being in this

1272
01:01:35,268 --> 01:01:38,748
building? Will we be exposed to stuff floating here?

1273
01:01:40,068 --> 01:01:44,028
It didn't look like it to me. He didn't say, when I talked to

1274
01:01:44,048 --> 01:01:47,128
Mr. Clark, he didn't say immediately abandon the building.

1275
01:01:47,188 --> 01:01:47,468
Yeah.

1276
01:01:47,508 --> 01:01:51,238
There's just things that a lot of times, and Paul might, and Zach might be able

1277
01:01:51,238 --> 01:01:54,928
to... A lot of times, renovation, you disturb things,

1278
01:01:55,388 --> 01:01:56,648
and that's when there

1279
01:01:57,528 --> 01:02:00,888
could be a contamination. These ballasts, yeah, disturb.

1280
01:02:00,948 --> 01:02:02,548
You'd probably have something. When you

1281
01:02:04,008 --> 01:02:07,908
chip away paint so you can paint it again, that would

1282
01:02:07,928 --> 01:02:09,768
be when you would be exposed to lead.

1283
01:02:10,648 --> 01:02:12,028
But as it stands now...

1284
01:02:13,568 --> 01:02:15,188
Yeah. Pretty safe, right?

1285
01:02:16,028 --> 01:02:17,168
Until it gets disturbed.

1286
01:02:17,248 --> 01:02:18,518
Stay out of that security building.

1287
01:02:19,148 --> 01:02:19,328
Yeah.

1288
01:02:19,388 --> 01:02:20,608
Yeah. And that's,

1289
01:02:22,508 --> 01:02:24,208
like I said, I wasn't here for when they

1290
01:02:25,028 --> 01:02:26,548
asked for this report.

1291
01:02:27,548 --> 01:02:31,088
I presumed what you needed to know is what's in this report.

1292
01:02:31,128 --> 01:02:31,698
Which is,

1293
01:02:33,648 --> 01:02:37,238
they sampled, they found out, well, how much asbestos there was, and

1294
01:02:37,268 --> 01:02:41,088
what would contain that asbestos, what would contain the

1295
01:02:41,128 --> 01:02:41,508
lead.

1296
01:02:44,508 --> 01:02:45,348
Okay. Out.

1297
01:02:48,228 --> 01:02:50,928
Jen, I would appreciate to find out what

1298
01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:52,478
this means. As you

1299
01:02:53,648 --> 01:02:57,388
stated, the report shows that there are hazardous materials in both

1300
01:02:57,408 --> 01:03:01,068
buildings. Just if they can find out for us

1301
01:03:01,128 --> 01:03:04,748
what that means for occupying and using,

1302
01:03:05,928 --> 01:03:08,988
especially Carnegie, since we're actively in it.

1303
01:03:09,808 --> 01:03:11,648
And then

1304
01:03:12,748 --> 01:03:14,848
if we do find anything,

1305
01:03:16,408 --> 01:03:20,108
how we can get on, at least for Carnegie, start moving on that.

1306
01:03:20,128 --> 01:03:21,158
Thank you.

1307
01:03:23,428 --> 01:03:27,008
It's like, I think if you notice in the pictures, they're mostly showing

1308
01:03:27,168 --> 01:03:27,818
outside-

1309
01:03:28,168 --> 01:03:28,328
Right

1310
01:03:28,388 --> 01:03:31,828
... for Carnegie. There really isn't anything other than, I think, the

1311
01:03:32,428 --> 01:03:33,048
ballasts.

1312
01:03:33,808 --> 01:03:33,948
Yeah.

1313
01:03:34,128 --> 01:03:36,248
And that would be only if it was disturbed.

1314
01:03:36,588 --> 01:03:40,388
But far as any danger, like I said, he didn't say anything about

1315
01:03:40,448 --> 01:03:40,648
that.

1316
01:03:43,628 --> 01:03:44,008
John?

1317
01:03:45,188 --> 01:03:47,888
You know, Madam Mayor, everyone's looking at these documents.

1318
01:03:47,918 --> 01:03:50,488
I was just trying to pull up the, what I read earlier

1319
01:03:51,328 --> 01:03:51,948
this weekend,

1320
01:03:53,828 --> 01:03:57,648
on this report, and one of the things that I was a little upset with was the

1321
01:03:57,708 --> 01:04:00,608
cost of just mitigating it out of the

1322
01:04:01,948 --> 01:04:02,748
Purity building

1323
01:04:03,568 --> 01:04:07,368
at $131,000 just to clean up something, and we're

1324
01:04:07,468 --> 01:04:11,408
just scratching the surface. And we have a library roof that we're going to have to

1325
01:04:11,468 --> 01:04:14,848
deal with, 30 some odd thousand dollars worth of mitigation

1326
01:04:14,908 --> 01:04:17,338
here. We have to weigh our

1327
01:04:18,428 --> 01:04:20,828
finances versus our goals and wishes.

1328
01:04:21,428 --> 01:04:25,008
And I would say at this point, we don't spend another dime on the Purity

1329
01:04:25,068 --> 01:04:25,428
building.

1330
01:04:26,808 --> 01:04:29,868
This could turn out to be a bigger money pit than we've already found out.

1331
01:04:30,748 --> 01:04:34,568
I am all in favor of getting that thing out or we're...

1332
01:04:34,808 --> 01:04:37,508
I don't know, Zach, we could bury this out by the ponds.

1333
01:04:38,528 --> 01:04:40,348
Because I have crew that could probably do it for free.

1334
01:04:41,068 --> 01:04:43,568
But this is not good.

1335
01:04:45,388 --> 01:04:49,348
And this building too, I mean, I am, I mean, I

1336
01:04:49,728 --> 01:04:52,408
guess it has the benefits to the Purity building, to say the least.

1337
01:04:52,868 --> 01:04:56,728
We do not have an endless budget, and I'm very concerned that we

1338
01:04:56,768 --> 01:04:58,648
start ripping the scab off of a wound.

1339
01:04:58,768 --> 01:05:01,428
I've heard everybody's comments, I agree with them.

1340
01:05:01,568 --> 01:05:05,368
The unfortunate part is, the missus wants a

1341
01:05:05,408 --> 01:05:07,868
fancy car and we can only afford a bicycle, so

1342
01:05:09,088 --> 01:05:13,068
manage my expectations. And as somebody who's responsible for the

1343
01:05:13,088 --> 01:05:16,608
checkbook, we have to be stalwart in terms of

1344
01:05:16,808 --> 01:05:20,708
managing our budget and being future responsible

1345
01:05:20,868 --> 01:05:24,788
for making sure we don't go into some projects that could really, really

1346
01:05:24,808 --> 01:05:26,068
hurt us in the long haul.

1347
01:05:27,267 --> 01:05:30,968
Nice thing is, thanks for not letting us know that we're not sitting in a

1348
01:05:31,008 --> 01:05:34,628
hazmat site. They tell you there's lead paint here. We know what the ballasts do.

1349
01:05:34,948 --> 01:05:38,928
We know all that stuff. We've got rot and other damage, but we'll have to

1350
01:05:38,948 --> 01:05:42,168
cross that bridge in the future. And we might have to, as long as we don't lick the

1351
01:05:42,268 --> 01:05:45,328
lead paint windows, because don't forget, that's leaded glass.

1352
01:05:45,428 --> 01:05:45,628
Yeah.

1353
01:05:45,668 --> 01:05:46,328
We should be good.

1354
01:05:47,218 --> 01:05:47,868
That's what I recommend.

1355
01:05:48,108 --> 01:05:49,328
And John, real quick. Sorry.

1356
01:05:49,468 --> 01:05:49,528
Yeah.

1357
01:05:51,368 --> 01:05:51,608
John.

1358
01:05:51,668 --> 01:05:52,068
Go ahead.

1359
01:05:52,088 --> 01:05:54,908
I think for, when you read that 130,000 for

1360
01:05:55,828 --> 01:05:56,648
mitigation, that's not for-

1361
01:05:57,178 --> 01:05:57,568
That's not for-

1362
01:05:57,668 --> 01:06:00,448
That's for selective destruction before assessment.

1363
01:06:00,828 --> 01:06:03,468
So I think there'd be additional costs to that.

1364
01:06:03,668 --> 01:06:04,548
Oh, no, 100%.

1365
01:06:04,608 --> 01:06:04,618
Yeah.

1366
01:06:04,628 --> 01:06:05,188
That's just-

1367
01:06:05,848 --> 01:06:06,008
Yeah

1368
01:06:06,048 --> 01:06:07,568
... performance, lack of due diligence, age.

1369
01:06:07,828 --> 01:06:11,287
That's just the beginning, the scab of the wound. That's just the beginning.

1370
01:06:11,348 --> 01:06:13,288
But not flooring or exterior work.

1371
01:06:14,088 --> 01:06:17,828
So, and Terry, you'd know better. On your side, did you guys have those VCT

1372
01:06:18,008 --> 01:06:20,328
or that vinyl tile that's on your side?

1373
01:06:20,728 --> 01:06:21,628
Yes. The-

1374
01:06:21,708 --> 01:06:22,048
Yeah

1375
01:06:22,058 --> 01:06:23,408
... vinyl was there. What that 130...

1376
01:06:23,988 --> 01:06:26,508
Well, I spoke with Will Shepherd, he called me.

1377
01:06:26,748 --> 01:06:26,848
Mm-hmm.

1378
01:06:27,228 --> 01:06:30,788
And the 130 was to remove the interior

1379
01:06:30,968 --> 01:06:34,818
structure down to the studs. So as

1380
01:06:34,888 --> 01:06:38,548
part of drawing plans for a renovation project,

1381
01:06:39,028 --> 01:06:42,808
he would know what the structural design of that building

1382
01:06:42,848 --> 01:06:45,348
was because there's been so many changes over the years.

1383
01:06:45,388 --> 01:06:45,628
Right.

1384
01:06:45,708 --> 01:06:49,568
The remediation that's required just to get rid of,

1385
01:06:50,948 --> 01:06:53,188
it's $7,000 for 1,000-

1386
01:06:53,628 --> 01:06:53,948
Right

1387
01:06:54,308 --> 01:06:58,188
... holes to look for lead paint, and it's $30,000

1388
01:06:58,288 --> 01:07:01,648
plus to remove what they have identified in the way of

1389
01:07:01,728 --> 01:07:03,888
asbestos and lead paint so far.

1390
01:07:04,328 --> 01:07:04,488
Yeah.

1391
01:07:04,548 --> 01:07:08,308
So then the cleanup is $37,000, and if we

1392
01:07:08,348 --> 01:07:11,778
decide we want to strip walls down and start talking about renovating and turning

1393
01:07:11,828 --> 01:07:14,358
it to city hall, that's where our $130,000 came in.

1394
01:07:15,832 --> 01:07:16,732
Okay. Ooh.

1395
01:07:17,672 --> 01:07:17,892
Yeah.

1396
01:07:19,932 --> 01:07:23,772
I agree with Alex. The one building of concern would be this

1397
01:07:23,852 --> 01:07:27,612
one. If there's some issues that we can reasonably address so that

1398
01:07:27,652 --> 01:07:31,572
there's full confidence that this building is fully safe for the public

1399
01:07:31,652 --> 01:07:33,152
now and in the future, we should do that.

1400
01:07:33,932 --> 01:07:35,872
I think as far as the Purity Building goes,

1401
01:07:36,852 --> 01:07:38,892
that's a pig in a poke that the city bought.

1402
01:07:39,072 --> 01:07:40,832
They've been pouring money into it for years.

1403
01:07:41,552 --> 01:07:45,512
I've watched the taxpayers' money, not necessarily ours, it was a grant, I

1404
01:07:45,532 --> 01:07:48,072
don't know if Janet remembers, a million dollars.

1405
01:07:48,351 --> 01:07:51,052
A million dollars was spent on pretty pictures.

1406
01:07:52,332 --> 01:07:56,032
Eventually, what we want to do is go back to the grant process, see if there's

1407
01:07:56,072 --> 01:07:59,962
funds available to remove that building to nothing, and

1408
01:08:00,012 --> 01:08:03,972
what we'll have is a clean site for future development in the downtown, possibly

1409
01:08:03,992 --> 01:08:06,972
for commercial development, possibly for municipal use.

1410
01:08:07,432 --> 01:08:11,242
But I think that's the only real solution there, and I wouldn't spend a dime right

1411
01:08:11,292 --> 01:08:12,972
now on the Purity Building,

1412
01:08:14,212 --> 01:08:16,732
other than some barricades to keep people from going inside.

1413
01:08:17,452 --> 01:08:20,772
I think that's the right course of action there.

1414
01:08:21,592 --> 01:08:22,012
Okay.

1415
01:08:23,272 --> 01:08:24,222
My thoughts on it,

1416
01:08:25,072 --> 01:08:28,793
yes, we have to defer because right now we don't have any money to move forward

1417
01:08:28,833 --> 01:08:32,232
with any of the project. But also, we

1418
01:08:32,913 --> 01:08:35,932
have a real problem with the building, this

1419
01:08:37,913 --> 01:08:40,873
black plastic flapping off it. We have to do something.

1420
01:08:41,452 --> 01:08:45,352
And the way I see it, that building actually, on that end where the

1421
01:08:45,413 --> 01:08:46,312
plastic is,

1422
01:08:47,333 --> 01:08:50,132
it's got two-by-fours the entire length of it.

1423
01:08:50,592 --> 01:08:54,402
Is it possible just to get up there and at least stop spending $200 to

1424
01:08:54,432 --> 01:08:58,413
$400 every two to three weeks because paper keeps

1425
01:08:58,452 --> 01:09:00,892
coming off, and get up there and

1426
01:09:01,812 --> 01:09:05,802
put quarter-inch plywood to seal that off, making it safe for anyone

1427
01:09:06,012 --> 01:09:09,293
underneath, and getting rid of the whole fix it?

1428
01:09:09,672 --> 01:09:12,172
Because if we're doing nothing, we still own the property.

1429
01:09:12,293 --> 01:09:14,213
We can't just keep putting plastic on.

1430
01:09:15,992 --> 01:09:16,932
What's your thoughts, Zach?

1431
01:09:17,672 --> 01:09:21,032
My thoughts are to remove the plastic and let it sit open,

1432
01:09:21,713 --> 01:09:25,552
leave the wood open. The wood that is actually up there as your upright

1433
01:09:25,672 --> 01:09:29,333
studding is actually held to the old window frames from the

1434
01:09:29,373 --> 01:09:30,713
grocery market by tie wire.

1435
01:09:31,552 --> 01:09:31,713
Oh.

1436
01:09:31,772 --> 01:09:35,532
So what's happening right now is the frame, it is

1437
01:09:35,572 --> 01:09:38,833
leaning forward, and it's trying to disconnect from the roof

1438
01:09:38,892 --> 01:09:42,772
line and fall out into the road. So if we add more weight to

1439
01:09:42,873 --> 01:09:46,092
that, it's definitely just going to drop off, possibly injure somebody.

1440
01:09:46,552 --> 01:09:46,911
Okay.

1441
01:09:48,052 --> 01:09:51,552
But the plastic solution isn't the best solution at this point.

1442
01:09:52,052 --> 01:09:52,293
Right?

1443
01:09:52,732 --> 01:09:56,132
Just to keep water out in the meantime, but now that it's summer and the wind's

1444
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:57,432
blowing and it's ripped it down to-

1445
01:09:57,532 --> 01:09:58,462
Just take it off and leave it

1446
01:09:58,462 --> 01:10:00,832
... yeah, take it off, yeah, better than nothing.

1447
01:10:00,872 --> 01:10:02,042
Because the rest of it can go

1448
01:10:02,072 --> 01:10:02,992
Mm-hmm.

1449
01:10:03,952 --> 01:10:06,732
And the option we have, that's not viable.

1450
01:10:07,752 --> 01:10:09,942
Okay, let's do that. I think it's honestly-

1451
01:10:09,942 --> 01:10:11,412
Thank you, Zach. Welcome.

1452
01:10:11,452 --> 01:10:12,212
Appreciate your work.

1453
01:10:12,512 --> 01:10:13,052
Welcome.

1454
01:10:13,072 --> 01:10:13,312
Okay.

1455
01:10:15,052 --> 01:10:18,992
And that will all have to return in a future discussion as to where

1456
01:10:19,032 --> 01:10:22,832
we're going to with both this building and what we're going to do in the future.

1457
01:10:22,872 --> 01:10:25,552
We can't just leave it there forever. It's pretty sad.

1458
01:10:25,612 --> 01:10:26,532
If the city,

1459
01:10:27,432 --> 01:10:31,372
we would probably be looking at a maintenance measure if it weren't

1460
01:10:31,612 --> 01:10:35,512
anything else, and we don't. So that'll be another discussion for each of them.

1461
01:10:36,432 --> 01:10:37,832
Okay, any other thoughts?

1462
01:10:38,992 --> 01:10:42,781
Okay, as long as that administrative business, and we have

1463
01:10:42,972 --> 01:10:46,732
the city manager, Bird Boulder, for it. Everything? That's...

1464
01:10:47,752 --> 01:10:47,932
Now-

1465
01:10:48,212 --> 01:10:49,252
Did we do public comment?

1466
01:10:50,462 --> 01:10:50,792
Go ahead.

1467
01:10:51,312 --> 01:10:51,532
Did we do public comment?

1468
01:10:51,572 --> 01:10:53,472
She asked first, and then she asked that.

1469
01:10:53,652 --> 01:10:54,192
Yes, sir.

1470
01:10:57,492 --> 01:10:59,632
It was before you made all your comments.

1471
01:10:59,692 --> 01:11:01,592
I didn't have a comment until you made all your comments.

1472
01:11:01,632 --> 01:11:05,212
You know what? I'm the mayor, so I have to say, let's hear

1473
01:11:05,292 --> 01:11:06,872
you, Janet, just for a minute.

1474
01:11:07,772 --> 01:11:07,992
Okay.

1475
01:11:08,012 --> 01:11:08,932
But keep it short, okay?

1476
01:11:09,252 --> 01:11:10,911
Covered it with black plastic.

1477
01:11:10,952 --> 01:11:11,642
The black plastic-

1478
01:11:11,841 --> 01:11:14,012
Blown away in the wind.

1479
01:11:14,052 --> 01:11:15,552
We got it down, but that ain't...

1480
01:11:15,632 --> 01:11:17,032
I think you know what I'm going to say.

1481
01:11:17,072 --> 01:11:17,302
Do you?

1482
01:11:17,302 --> 01:11:17,992
Of course you know.

1483
01:11:18,412 --> 01:11:19,522
And I'm going to let you say it anyway.

1484
01:11:19,522 --> 01:11:20,352
I don't know what you're going to say.

1485
01:11:22,492 --> 01:11:24,772
I bet, is it Mill Street School?

1486
01:11:26,472 --> 01:11:30,352
I bet when they were deciding what to do with Mill Street School,

1487
01:11:30,832 --> 01:11:34,212
they said exactly what John said and exactly what Wade said,

1488
01:11:34,672 --> 01:11:38,412
and everybody that knows about that school regrets it.

1489
01:11:39,052 --> 01:11:41,772
That building is a historic building.

1490
01:11:41,832 --> 01:11:45,612
It was built in the '40s. Anything over, what is it, 50

1491
01:11:45,672 --> 01:11:49,472
years, is a historic building. When a year ago they were

1492
01:11:49,532 --> 01:11:52,272
talking about building a new city

1493
01:11:52,332 --> 01:11:58,252
building

1494
01:11:59,292 --> 01:12:01,142
for a million and a half dollars,

1495
01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:06,832
it's absolutely ridiculous to not patch

1496
01:12:06,852 --> 01:12:07,212
that

1497
01:12:08,492 --> 01:12:12,452
when we can save part of history. I hate to see when the

1498
01:12:13,912 --> 01:12:17,172
igloo things, I hate for them to go. They're part of Orland.

1499
01:12:18,632 --> 01:12:22,092
From an outsider, see

1500
01:12:22,712 --> 01:12:25,332
Orland completely different than you all do.

1501
01:12:25,392 --> 01:12:29,372
These are wonderful individual things. It's a historic building.

1502
01:12:30,432 --> 01:12:32,992
I would just be sick if you let them let it

1503
01:12:33,812 --> 01:12:34,312
fantastic.

1504
01:12:34,362 --> 01:12:35,362
Thank you for your thoughts.

1505
01:12:35,452 --> 01:12:35,771
Yeah.

1506
01:12:35,812 --> 01:12:38,792
I thought one person-

1507
01:12:39,312 --> 01:12:40,432
Now I brought this up.

1508
01:12:40,472 --> 01:12:42,812
This was why Paige told me all of this stuff.

1509
01:12:43,352 --> 01:12:44,212
We have igloos.

1510
01:12:44,232 --> 01:12:44,792
There we go.

1511
01:12:44,992 --> 01:12:48,852
If I can make this really short. You've kind of come up with a

1512
01:12:48,912 --> 01:12:52,072
solution, but maybe speaking to the

1513
01:12:52,812 --> 01:12:56,752
gentleman who prepared the report, and just passing

1514
01:12:56,812 --> 01:13:00,552
that by him and getting the okay

1515
01:13:00,712 --> 01:13:01,192
that

1516
01:13:03,472 --> 01:13:06,272
we won't have toxic things lying

1517
01:13:06,372 --> 01:13:09,452
everywhere. Just an idea.

1518
01:13:10,012 --> 01:13:10,412
Okay.

1519
01:13:10,452 --> 01:13:10,772
Thank you.

1520
01:13:10,812 --> 01:13:14,332
Thanks. We'll make sure we do it safely, whatever we do.

1521
01:13:14,412 --> 01:13:18,220
Okay?Okay, and maybe there's the option out there

1522
01:13:18,260 --> 01:13:21,220
that this council will have a discussion and decide to sell it.

1523
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,130
If we sell it, the public, the general public doesn't have the restrictions

1524
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:29,090
that we as a city council have. We have a much higher

1525
01:13:29,220 --> 01:13:29,940
bar

1526
01:13:30,740 --> 01:13:34,320
for the public being in a building like that, than if it was sold to somebody

1527
01:13:34,380 --> 01:13:37,960
who potentially could preserve it the same way you

1528
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,600
did with the Farwood building, the same way I did with my

1529
01:13:41,660 --> 01:13:43,800
buildings. And maybe that's

1530
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,580
a future for the building, rather than the cost of tearing that

1531
01:13:48,620 --> 01:13:51,310
down, knowing the toxicity of it,

1532
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,160
is probably the million dollars we have.

1533
01:13:54,460 --> 01:13:57,060
It's crazy how expensive these things are.

1534
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,460
So anyway, we'll have to bring it back to a future discussion.

1535
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,500
But for now, let's at least get rid of the black plastic.

1536
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,880
Okay? I think that's an agreement with everyone on this council.

1537
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,840
Okay, Janet, it's your turn.

1538
01:14:11,900 --> 01:14:14,140
Thank you, Mayor.

1539
01:14:15,700 --> 01:14:18,780
Our city planner, Lisa Loja, who works for

1540
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:23,120
HSN out of Redding, will be leaving at the end of

1541
01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:26,850
June. She is moving to New Mexico. I

1542
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:30,450
did call her company, Bruce Grove, and I asked him,

1543
01:14:31,620 --> 01:14:34,620
because they do not intend to renew our contract.

1544
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,950
And of course, I called to make sure there wasn't anything

1545
01:14:39,020 --> 01:14:39,730
that was

1546
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,640
something we needed to address and might have been a concern.

1547
01:14:43,660 --> 01:14:47,580
He says, no, they just do not have anybody on staff that would do the same

1548
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,180
thing she did, which is to work for a city to do their planning.

1549
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,940
So, I reached out to the third person on our list that we had

1550
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:59,660
interviewed, which is Jake Morley from Element Solutions.

1551
01:15:00,440 --> 01:15:04,140
I had a talk with him last Thursday, so I wasn't able to put this on the agenda.

1552
01:15:04,540 --> 01:15:06,420
He is willing to step in

1553
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,600
and do our city planning. He does work for the city of

1554
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,420
Colusa right now.

1555
01:15:13,420 --> 01:15:16,920
And he is also a developer also. He does land

1556
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:17,840
development too.

1557
01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:21,240
He said he'd be willing to work

1558
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,640
six months, a year.

1559
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,920
He would be in for two days a week. He's very

1560
01:15:28,940 --> 01:15:32,200
accommodating for us. He kind of knows our situation.

1561
01:15:32,780 --> 01:15:36,100
He was recommended by Mr. Rago, has worked with him.

1562
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,960
Bruce Grove, he's with HSN, the company we do have right now.

1563
01:15:41,140 --> 01:15:45,100
He recommended him, and also our building inspector, Nick Patterson,

1564
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:49,020
has worked with him. So I feel that it would be a good

1565
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,900
fit, and he'd be able to work probably

1566
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,080
as soon as we can have him. But Lisa

1567
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:58,920
doesn't intend to be here till the end of June.

1568
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,420
So, let's see. The next thing is that I know we've all been,

1569
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,400
Jennifer's been bugging you about whether you can attend the ambulance study

1570
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,760
meeting. That has been canceled. The consultant cannot be there, so

1571
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,660
it might be the first week in June. But be prepared to see

1572
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,500
another flurry of emails that ask you if a certain date

1573
01:16:20,540 --> 01:16:24,400
is correct. It'll probably be at Success One Center because it will

1574
01:16:24,440 --> 01:16:24,860
be the

1575
01:16:25,660 --> 01:16:28,780
city council for Willows, Orland, and then the board supervisors.

1576
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,420
That's the only two things that I have.

1577
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:34,280
And that's it.

1578
01:16:35,140 --> 01:16:36,700
Thank you.

1579
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:39,720
Okay, any other--

1580
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:44,160
Okay, I will ask a question. Now that we have the

1581
01:16:44,780 --> 01:16:48,500
separation with Joe Goodman, do we set that for a

1582
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,400
special meeting? We can get discussing

1583
01:16:51,980 --> 01:16:55,600
publication and advertising to find a new study

1584
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,600
manager. How do we move forward with that?

1585
01:16:58,260 --> 01:17:02,080
However, council would like to, we can agendize it for the next regular

1586
01:17:02,140 --> 01:17:04,400
meeting. That was kind of the plan, but-

1587
01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:08,790
Out of all of you, Bill, how do we need to get on it, or do we want you to-

1588
01:17:09,220 --> 01:17:12,380
Actually, I'd like to see if we can get staff direction to reach out to Charles and

1589
01:17:12,420 --> 01:17:16,200
just these cities, and let's get this ball rolling, and then hopefully we'll have

1590
01:17:16,260 --> 01:17:19,320
something at least on here where you guys are attending.

1591
01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:24,840
Before we come back to that meeting of, like, what have we gotten done?

1592
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,420
Because we're meeting in the fall.

1593
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:26,820
Yeah.

1594
01:17:28,460 --> 01:17:31,060
But now it's not good. But it's not good for staff.

1595
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,960
We're good now. At the end of the month, we're going to have three people doing

1596
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,220
five people's jobs. Very concerned about all that.

1597
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:39,900
So we'll get all the way.

1598
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,340
So that's it, the direction of the staff? Or can we even do that?

1599
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:46,050
Is it something-

1600
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:48,530
No, but I think that was kind of the plan.

1601
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:48,870
So yeah.

1602
01:17:49,620 --> 01:17:51,440
Let me get on to it.

1603
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:51,680
Yeah.

1604
01:17:53,260 --> 01:17:55,500
All right, so verbal reports.

1605
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,260
Council?

1606
01:17:57,500 --> 01:17:57,680
No.

1607
01:17:59,340 --> 01:18:00,240
No? John?

1608
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:05,140
Nothing bad about the

1609
01:18:05,150 --> 01:18:07,300
community. Love the place. Looking forward to good weather.

1610
01:18:07,380 --> 01:18:11,290
And whoever brought the wind this evening, Broadway

1611
01:18:11,420 --> 01:18:13,960
Lane, boy. Why you even bother going 10 with you?

1612
01:18:14,740 --> 01:18:16,740
Only 12 calls Saturday. Geez.

1613
01:18:18,150 --> 01:18:19,060
It's gone tomorrow.

1614
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,480
Just thank you. Glad to be here for my first full meeting.

1615
01:18:25,540 --> 01:18:28,600
I heard these meetings went really long, but I think that's a pretty good time.

1616
01:18:28,620 --> 01:18:30,660
We're going to get out of here, so keep it up.

1617
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:30,950
Plan.

1618
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,340
Good management.

1619
01:18:32,460 --> 01:18:35,460
And work for a long time, yeah. Yeah, and have it for another walk.

1620
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:36,100
Yeah.

1621
01:18:36,140 --> 01:18:39,960
Okay, I have a whole list of things now that, and the city that I've

1622
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,560
been with her was very happy to see that in that sanctuary

1623
01:18:45,620 --> 01:18:49,010
gala was well attended and very well done up.

1624
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,140
And thank you, Valerie, for what you do.

1625
01:18:52,300 --> 01:18:56,160
The Arts Commission, again, thank you for all you do.

1626
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,960
I attended their special meeting concerning what we'll talk about

1627
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,540
tonight. LACTO is

1628
01:19:03,660 --> 01:19:06,620
meeting and regularly talking. Janet is the

1629
01:19:06,660 --> 01:19:09,060
LACTO administrator or-

1630
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:10,150
Executive officer

1631
01:19:10,340 --> 01:19:11,520
... executive officer.

1632
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:11,610
Mm-hmm.

1633
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,780
And so we'll be having more discussions with them concerning our west side

1634
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,080
annexation soon.

1635
01:19:18,060 --> 01:19:21,940
The Library Commission, very exciting, Jody, what you're doing

1636
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,680
with the schools, that whole report of that

1637
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:28,632
MOUTo bring our students together with our library.

1638
01:19:28,752 --> 01:19:32,352
Orland's probably one of the only ones in the north state doing such

1639
01:19:32,392 --> 01:19:36,272
an aggressive and well-thought-out plan

1640
01:19:36,372 --> 01:19:39,832
to get our kids, every kid in school, involved with our

1641
01:19:39,852 --> 01:19:43,442
library. Unbelievable how many kids our library

1642
01:19:43,512 --> 01:19:46,992
reaches in the many ways. And one of the things coming up is your

1643
01:19:47,052 --> 01:19:48,782
wildlife, what is it called?

1644
01:19:48,812 --> 01:19:49,632
Wild Things.

1645
01:19:49,892 --> 01:19:50,552
And when is that?

1646
01:19:51,192 --> 01:19:53,342
June 15th, I think.

1647
01:19:53,412 --> 01:19:55,652
Okay. And it's going to come fast and furious.

1648
01:19:55,792 --> 01:19:59,672
So anybody that wants to really see a cool program the

1649
01:19:59,692 --> 01:20:03,532
library puts together, it's called Wild Things, and they bring all of these wild

1650
01:20:03,612 --> 01:20:07,452
animals right out here in the park, and hundreds,

1651
01:20:07,552 --> 01:20:11,432
well, it was probably over 100 last year, kids and people get to come and see

1652
01:20:11,472 --> 01:20:15,272
the animals, with affection, learn about the animals, as well

1653
01:20:15,352 --> 01:20:19,282
as the music program that you have coming on, too, which is, when

1654
01:20:19,332 --> 01:20:20,822
does that begin, Paul?

1655
01:20:21,392 --> 01:20:23,432
We're working on... We've got the music garden instruments

1656
01:20:24,292 --> 01:20:24,692
ordered,

1657
01:20:25,772 --> 01:20:27,992
PVA for when we'll have that kind of thing.

1658
01:20:28,132 --> 01:20:31,671
And this is stations around the park where kids can go

1659
01:20:31,812 --> 01:20:32,952
around and-

1660
01:20:33,612 --> 01:20:35,392
It'll be on the west side of the library.

1661
01:20:35,432 --> 01:20:35,542
Okay.

1662
01:20:35,542 --> 01:20:35,802
That'll be-

1663
01:20:36,312 --> 01:20:39,852
Where they can go and hear and feel and see musical

1664
01:20:39,912 --> 01:20:41,671
instruments. It's a permanent exhibit.

1665
01:20:41,732 --> 01:20:42,012
Yeah.

1666
01:20:42,092 --> 01:20:44,332
So that was pretty cool, too, with the animal.

1667
01:20:44,342 --> 01:20:46,732
And Joey got grants, I think, for most of this.

1668
01:20:48,252 --> 01:20:48,512
Okay.

1669
01:20:48,672 --> 01:20:52,132
Or donations. I know the wildlife was donations.

1670
01:20:53,232 --> 01:20:56,192
Fair parade, we did the judging. John,

1671
01:20:56,592 --> 01:20:58,332
Casey, at the school.

1672
01:20:59,372 --> 01:21:01,952
They have a new one. Miss Martha doesn't show up.

1673
01:21:03,072 --> 01:21:03,192
No?

1674
01:21:03,332 --> 01:21:04,722
Never heard. I never heard of it.

1675
01:21:04,832 --> 01:21:07,492
I don't know. There was some pretty fun ones out there.

1676
01:21:08,092 --> 01:21:08,102
Great.

1677
01:21:08,152 --> 01:21:11,592
I also went there and was the judge for their forestry exhibit.

1678
01:21:11,602 --> 01:21:15,482
A lot of really young kids, or high school kids, really, into forestry, and

1679
01:21:15,492 --> 01:21:16,752
that's really a dying

1680
01:21:17,912 --> 01:21:20,192
art. It was cool to see so many kids involved.

1681
01:21:20,212 --> 01:21:23,512
And then Keller Williams, for those of you who do not know,

1682
01:21:23,632 --> 01:21:25,692
Keller Williams Realty,

1683
01:21:26,952 --> 01:21:28,652
which is Becky Jones, right?

1684
01:21:30,172 --> 01:21:30,312
Yeah.

1685
01:21:30,832 --> 01:21:34,781
Yeah. Becky Jones got the Keller Williams folks, a group of

1686
01:21:34,852 --> 01:21:36,992
them, to go out and do public service.

1687
01:21:37,072 --> 01:21:40,892
There were probably, I think she said 40-some, almost

1688
01:21:41,132 --> 01:21:44,552
50 of them, and they came and painted our park benches, our park

1689
01:21:45,612 --> 01:21:48,472
drinking fountain, the side of the library building.

1690
01:21:48,712 --> 01:21:52,231
All of them came one morning, beautiful day that it was.

1691
01:21:52,292 --> 01:21:56,072
They were done by 2:00, and they all came over and had an

1692
01:21:56,112 --> 01:21:58,332
after party. And boy, those people know how to party.

1693
01:21:59,952 --> 01:22:01,812
So that was a lot of fun with all of them.

1694
01:22:01,872 --> 01:22:05,712
We thank them very much for the effort that they put in to making Orland look

1695
01:22:05,732 --> 01:22:06,092
good.

1696
01:22:07,412 --> 01:22:10,752
High school had a civic engagement program last night,

1697
01:22:11,312 --> 01:22:14,372
and Alex, Tracy, and John were at that,

1698
01:22:15,012 --> 01:22:18,432
where they actually have a program that was initially

1699
01:22:18,512 --> 01:22:21,752
state-funded and now is just funded by their own

1700
01:22:22,632 --> 01:22:26,532
activity, their high school, where kids get together in

1701
01:22:26,572 --> 01:22:29,772
groups. They come up with what they see as a need in their community.

1702
01:22:30,152 --> 01:22:34,052
They spend the entire year during their senior year planning for it, going

1703
01:22:34,132 --> 01:22:35,702
out, reaching out to our community.

1704
01:22:35,792 --> 01:22:37,212
One of them was for West Haven,

1705
01:22:38,412 --> 01:22:42,352
went and spent time with older adults and learned and heard

1706
01:22:42,392 --> 01:22:42,632
and

1707
01:22:43,552 --> 01:22:47,392
touched their lives and were touched by the older adults.

1708
01:22:47,452 --> 01:22:50,312
We also had, it was called, what was the swim program?

1709
01:22:50,632 --> 01:22:51,572
Civic Engagement.

1710
01:22:51,812 --> 01:22:52,892
No, what was the swim pro-

1711
01:22:52,952 --> 01:22:54,492
Oh, swim, I'm sorry, Whale Tails. Sorry.

1712
01:22:54,532 --> 01:22:58,502
Whale Tails, which is, the Red Cross puts together, and it is to

1713
01:22:58,612 --> 01:23:02,592
teach kids how to swim. And they went out to third grade classrooms throughout

1714
01:23:02,652 --> 01:23:06,372
our city to talk to kids about water

1715
01:23:06,452 --> 01:23:08,712
safety and how to stay alive

1716
01:23:09,912 --> 01:23:13,312
by staying out of the water a lot of the times, or what to do if you find yourself

1717
01:23:13,352 --> 01:23:15,532
in the water. So these kids were amazing.

1718
01:23:15,592 --> 01:23:18,612
They put all these programs together and done a whole PowerPoint.

1719
01:23:18,652 --> 01:23:20,592
It was a really neat thing last night.

1720
01:23:21,432 --> 01:23:25,252
And the Orland, last one I have here is the Orland Women's Club

1721
01:23:25,292 --> 01:23:29,272
has their lunch tomorrow. And they, of course, all

1722
01:23:29,312 --> 01:23:32,071
of you know, are a very big part of our community as well.

1723
01:23:32,492 --> 01:23:34,192
And we thank them all for what they do.

1724
01:23:34,262 --> 01:23:37,332
I know some of you in the audience are part of that group, so we'll see you.

1725
01:23:38,552 --> 01:23:40,412
Okay, and that's the end of it for me.

1726
01:23:40,452 --> 01:23:43,642
And we'll have that last gavel thing during the-