[0:00] Okay, we'll call to order
[0:03] this meeting of your city council, Tuesday, May 19th,
[0:06] 2026.
[0:10] Roll call, please.
[0:12] Let the record show we have a quorum with all council members present.
[0:16] Closed session. Public comments.
[0:18] The public will have an opportunity to directly address the legislative body
[0:22] on the item below prior to the council convening into closed session.
[0:25] Public comments are generally restricted to three minutes.
[0:29] Closed session pursuant to Government Code Section 54957,
[0:33] public employment of the city manager. Do I have any public comments?
[0:38] Online?
[0:40] No. And while no one's talking, so just what we on?
[0:44] So we are going to go into closed session if it's fine.
[0:48] Mayor.
[0:53] We are now going to return to our session.
[0:56] Report from closed session.
[1:03] We will report that under Government Code Section
[1:07] 54957.1, the council has
[1:10] approved a separation agreement in general
[1:14] release with Joseph Goodman by a vote of
[1:18] 5-0. A copy of the executed agreement is available for
[1:21] public inspection in the office of the city clerk.
[1:25] We want to recognize the efforts that Mr.
[1:27] Goodman put in and the value he brought to our
[1:30] community during the time he was here, and we wish him the
[1:34] best and appreciate all that he's done for us.
[1:40] At this time, we will do the Pledge of Allegiance.
[1:44] Luke.
[1:47] I pledge
[1:50] allegiance to the Flag of the United
[1:53] States of America,
[1:55] and to the Republic for which it stands, one
[1:59] Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
[2:02] and justice for all.
[2:11] Members of the public wishing to address the council
[2:15] on any items not on the agenda may do so at this time when
[2:19] recognized by the mayor. However, no formal action or discussion will be
[2:23] taken unless placed on a future agenda.
[2:26] The public is advised to limit discussion to one presentation per
[2:29] individual, and while not required, please state your name and place of
[2:33] residence for the record.
[2:35] Please direct all your comments to the mayor or vice mayor, not to city staff, nor
[2:39] to the audience. Public comments will be limited to three minutes.
[2:43] Do I have any public comments at this time?
[2:48] Ms.
[2:50] Mayor.
[2:50] Hey.
[2:53] Valerie Thompson with Hidden Treasures Sanctuary and
[2:56] Rescue. Just thank you, Mayor Barr,
[3:00] for coming to our gala. It was a success.
[3:03] We filled up the place and we raised $10,000, which was great.
[3:08] Moving forward, we've got plans this year to really
[3:12] upgrade the sanctuary, do a lot of necessary
[3:16] things. So with that, also the voucher program, we've been
[3:20] going forward with it. With the news of
[3:24] changes here and there, and regardless of that, we
[3:28] are going to continue with the voucher program on our own in the
[3:32] future.
[3:33] Whether the political winds turn whichever
[3:37] way,
[3:38] I would with that like to
[3:41] be placed on the calendar for a
[3:45] discussion to see if we can finalize finally with
[3:49] all the changes with the city council and the members and
[3:54] managers and what have you. I think we've gotten a little lost in the mix on
[3:58] getting it all finalized. We've done
[4:02] 250 spays and neuters so far, just since
[4:06] we've been
[4:09] finalized the use permit, and our surgery room is
[4:13] complete as of this year. And so we're happy about
[4:17] that. So we did submit an invoice to our acting
[4:21] manager, Janet Wackerman. Thank you.
[4:24] And we would like to be on the calendar to see if we can just
[4:29] finalize the fine print on everything we've done.
[4:32] We've crossed all the T's and dotted the I's, so the city clerks in the
[4:36] office would not have to do anything at all, really, except for just
[4:40] sign a check.
[4:42] With that,
[4:43] moving forward, we are really proud of our city of
[4:47] Orange on the stance that they've taken with the
[4:51] humane
[4:52] cap situation problem and as
[4:56] that goes with the county did not go through
[5:00] with their end of it, and that's sad to say.
[5:03] But with that as well, our sheriff,
[5:06] sorry for going over, Megan-
[5:07] Oh, yeah. We're going to have to-
[5:08] Oh, s**t.
[5:09] Is coming in for stepping up for the county instead of
[5:13] supervisors. So with that, I can say that the program's going forward.
[5:17] Very good, and we'll make sure you get on a future agenda.
[5:20] Thank you.
[5:21] Thank you so much for your thoughts and your contribution.
[5:25] Ms. Joanna on it.
[5:32] Thank you so much, Mayor. My name is Joanna Guthrie.
[5:35] I am a resident of Chico.
[5:38] However, I am your representative for waste management
[5:42] here in the Glenn County area.
[5:45] I am less than two months into the job, so I am learning
[5:49] about all of you, your cities, your towns.
[5:53] A quick little rundown on me. I spent the last 25
[5:57] years in local governmentI worked in a rural county in Washington
[6:01] State, and then the last five years, I was working for a smaller city in
[6:05] the state of Arizona.
[6:08] And part of that time I was a solid waste manager, and I did
[6:12] various other roles in public works.
[6:15] So I've been on your side of the table before.
[6:18] I'm new to this side. But I do know solid waste, and I am happy to
[6:22] be available to talk with any of you.
[6:25] I'll be working with Janet, your city manager, that's acting at the
[6:29] moment. And please feel free to reach out at any time if you have any
[6:33] specific questions.
[6:34] Okay. Thank you so much for coming forward and saying hello to all of us.
[6:38] And I'll be getting your information and reaching out to you.
[6:41] I am on the Waste Management liaison for the City of Ormond, and
[6:45] I've got a couple of questions that I'm sure you could easily answer for me, so
[6:49] let's face it, but they're there. Any other public comments tonight?
[6:54] No? Any online?
[6:56] No? Okay. Well, we're going to close the public comment section then.
[7:00] And we will go on to our
[7:04] consent calendar. Public comments are welcome for each
[7:08] agenda item at the time designated by the mayor.
[7:10] Each speaker is limited to one comment per item, with a maximum of three minutes.
[7:15] After the public comment period closes, the council will proceed with its
[7:18] discussion, and attendees are asked to refrain from interruptions or
[7:22] disruptive behavior. A, the warrant list.
[7:25] B, approve city council minutes for May 5th,
[7:28] 2026. C, receive and file Arts Commission minutes
[7:32] from February 18th, 2026.
[7:35] Madam Mayor, sorry to interrupt.
[7:36] Yes.
[7:37] Staff is requesting that you pull, the council pull item D
[7:41] for future consideration as a regular administrative
[7:45] business item, not on consent. We had a slight little miscommunication
[7:49] between governor and I on this, so we can make those corrections.
[7:52] Okay, thank you for that information.
[7:54] E, adoption of the disability retirement designation
[7:58] resolution.
[8:00] F, adoption of the annual solid waste parcel fee resolution.
[8:04] G, consider an MOU with the Ormond Unified School District
[8:08] Student Success Library Card Program.
[8:12] H, receive the April 2026 budget reports, and I,
[8:15] receive the Treasurer's Report for May of 2026.
[8:19] Do I have any public comments on any of these items?
[8:23] Online?
[8:25] No. Okay. Do I have a motion to
[8:29] approve the consent calendar while pulling item D?
[8:32] Madam Chair, if I may.
[8:35] Item I, it says receive your treasurer's report.
[8:38] It makes a reference to a committee.
[8:41] I don't know, I couldn't find out who's on that committee.
[8:44] This is an investment committee that would take funds and invest
[8:48] them in earning of CDs, that sort of thing.
[8:51] I would ask to pull that until we get a report in the future.
[8:54] Okay. So we'll pull item I as well.
[8:59] And then, Madam Mayor, I'd like to pull item H just I've got a few questions
[9:02] regarding the budget.
[9:04] Okay.
[9:08] I would make a motion to adopt the consent calendar with the
[9:12] indications that we've been pulling items D, H, and I from
[9:15] consideration at this time.
[9:18] I'll second the motion.
[9:19] All those in favor?
[9:20] Aye.
[9:21] Opposed?
[9:23] The motion carries.
[9:25] Okay, so D is off the calendar entirely.
[9:28] E, H, shall we discuss the April budget?
[9:32] Yeah, Madam Mayor. I just... Hey, Jen.
[9:34] Just a quick question. I was running through some of those budget numbers, and I
[9:37] saw that parks and meetings, and this could've been a simple question I could have
[9:40] answered earlier, but get a chance to make it to you.
[9:43] But I seen that park maintenance went up 243%,
[9:47] and I don't know if that was another project you got tied in there.
[9:50] I know it's happened before.
[9:51] Yeah. Excuse me. Roberto is online-
[9:54] Okay. No, yeah
[9:54] ... and maybe he can probably answer that better.
[9:57] Okay.
[9:57] Roberto, did you catch his question?
[9:59] Yes.
[10:01] So the
[10:03] parks maintenance is over, the budget is over as far as the
[10:07] financial report is concerned. They're not really technically over, it's just
[10:10] there's some corrections that we're still in the process of making.
[10:13] This is a new system that started this fiscal year from the
[10:17] last one, and we're still working out the bugs.
[10:19] There's some charges that are showing up in the wrong account.
[10:21] We're trying to get everything into the right accounts.
[10:25] Hopefully by the May report, everything will be back in the right account, but
[10:29] we've been working through quite a few adjustments with this new system.
[10:33] And Madam Mayor, just one last question for Roberto then.
[10:36] And then also, too, I noticed for the discrepancy between Measure A and Measure J,
[10:40] where they should be bringing the same amount of money in.
[10:42] Roberto, you know anything about that?
[10:45] Yeah. So,
[10:47] as you know, Measure A used to exist. Measure J replaced it.
[10:51] But for budgeting purposes and talking to staff, it was
[10:55] understood and it was explained to me, and we can certainly change it, that Measure
[10:58] A
[10:59] is the original half cent. Measure J is the additional half cent.
[11:02] Technically, it's 1 cent, but they're keeping Measure A as
[11:06] the original half cent with its stated purpose.
[11:10] As reported in the financial statements, there is no Measure A, but in the
[11:13] financial statements, the original purpose of that first half
[11:17] cent is being kept in one line. Measure J is being tracked
[11:21] separately, which is the other half cent.
[11:23] It's got a different uses in the original Measure A.
[11:27] That's the reason why there's two of them shown, but legally, there's only one
[11:31] Measure J.
[11:33] Are you talking about the income value in
[11:35] Measure
[11:40] J?
[11:40] Maybe I didn't quite hear the question.
[11:42] The four-year almost.
[11:45] Yeah.
[11:47] Or one.
[11:48] Yeah, Roberto, I think you had explained it to us before.
[11:51] It had something to do with when the money came in.
[11:55] I think that's what-
[11:57] Oh, in the current year's budget, you mean?
[12:00] Yeah.
[12:00] Yeah, the revenue... Oh, I was thinking, sorry.
[12:02] I have '26, '27 budget in my mind. In the current budget
[12:06] Measure-J is less because it did not have a
[12:10] full year's worth. It didn't have a full year where Measure A was in
[12:14] place for the full year, and that was kind of a guesstimate at the very beginning.
[12:19] Now we do have a more solid number for next year.
[12:22] And as you can tell when you look at the revenues, Measure J is coming stronger
[12:25] than was originally anticipated.
[12:29] Yeah. I think because it passed in November, it didn't go into effect until
[12:33] April or something of June. I know about sales tax, that's why.
[12:36] So it'll be a full-
[12:37] Yeah
[12:38] ... a year.
[12:38] Yeah, I mean, you start receiving money in June, and then you obviously-
[12:41] And then it took a while for you to come in.
[12:42] Okay.
[12:43] Yeah.
[12:43] And then other than that, you have any other questions?
[12:46] No other questions from council members. Any other questions, Alex?
[12:50] Roberto.
[12:51] Try to make it.
[12:52] On the budget that you provided.
[12:55] Yes, I do have a question.
[12:56] Okay.
[12:57] Roberto, what is your last name? I'm brand new here.
[13:00] Moreno.
[13:02] Very nice to meet you, Mr. Moreno. I'm Wade Elliott.
[13:04] I'm a new member of the council, first time we've met, so I'm so glad to have made
[13:08] your acquaintance tonight. I just want to make sure I'm understanding, and if not
[13:12] for me, maybe for the public. Measure J, Measure A, these are
[13:16] both taxpayer-approved, right? These were
[13:19] voter-approved taxes on our sales tax. Is that correct?
[13:24] Yes.
[13:26] Even though there were intentions that were put into the language that we voted on,
[13:30] were any of the funds required to be restricted?
[13:34] Technically, no, because if they were technically
[13:37] required, then it would be a special tax
[13:40] that has a two-thirds majority vote. It's a general tax.
[13:44] It's subject to the council's discretion, but council has chosen to
[13:48] follow a certain direction as to how the money should be spent.
[13:52] So that is my understanding as well.
[13:56] And you've looked at these two systems and the transition.
[14:00] Had there been a practice in the past of carefully
[14:04] identifying the Measure J and Measure A funds for designated
[14:08] purposes as you described prior?
[14:13] I just started this about a year ago, and
[14:16] so what was done in the past is only what I've been provided, which was the
[14:20] Measure A, a list of projects and how it's been spent in the past.
[14:24] Right.
[14:25] And then there's what was the language in the ordinance as to what it was intended
[14:28] to be used for.
[14:31] Is it your read as you've looked at some of the numbers that discretion was
[14:35] used with those funds outside of those definitions by previous
[14:39] councils?
[14:41] Everything that I've seen was spent based on what was in the ordinance
[14:45] of public safety, streets-
[14:48] Okay
[14:49] ... and ambulance now.
[14:51] I appreciate that. Thank you for that clarification.
[14:53] And again, thank you for reporting to us tonight.
[14:56] And, Mr. Mayor, I do have one question. All right.
[14:59] A quick question, again, so I mean, probably figures, kind of makes it sound
[15:02] like we're not holding our end of the deal for Measure J and for the citizens.
[15:07] We'll use that and we'll get broken for this.
[15:09] So I do want to say I appreciate that, but we're still
[15:13] keeping track of it, just like-
[15:16] Yeah.
[15:16] Yeah.
[15:16] Yes.
[15:17] I trust you guys on that one. Roberto, not to throw you under the bus, buddy, but
[15:20] this community will set you, me, and everybody else on fire if we don't hold it up
[15:23] to the letter of the law. Yes, it's a general fund measure on a two-thirds
[15:27] majority special measure, but yeah, the community takes that very,
[15:31] very seriously. So I want to make sure that I understand what you're saying in
[15:35] terms of a general fund issue, but we just want to make sure general fund money is
[15:39] not getting funneled out of Measure J, or there can be a lot
[15:43] of problems around here, so. But thank you for that. Thank you, Jen.
[15:46] Well, again, I only have one other question.
[15:49] When I'm looking at impact fees revenues, we have
[15:52] transportation, public safety, city hall, water system, sewer system,
[15:56] library, park land, park improvements, capital maintenance,
[16:00] and recreational facilities. And then there are
[16:03] numbers
[16:05] totaling $312,000 on the current or on the
[16:09] fiscal activity for the year. So these are fees that we have
[16:13] collected that have been allocated to each piece departments, is that
[16:16] correct?
[16:19] So each fee is collected based on the ordinance.
[16:22] It can only be used specifically for these items, so they are all
[16:26] being tracked.
[16:29] This money has been collected. The fiscal activity is
[16:32] year-to-date on active building permits.
[16:35] Permits are issued for development within the city,
[16:39] and they are each tracked, and they can only be spent on specific items.
[16:43] I'm not sure if I answered the question.
[16:45] I'm trying to understand. The Arts Council
[16:48] funding comes from a designation from impact fees,
[16:52] and I don't see the Arts Council listed here.
[16:55] Why were they not included as one of those impact recipients?
[16:58] Okay, so this part of the impact
[17:02] fees is subject to state law and what
[17:06] it goes through. These are impact fees per state law.
[17:09] The Arts Commission fee that you're talking about-
[17:12] Okay
[17:13] ... that one is not based on
[17:15] state law. That is an extra fee that was set up by council.
[17:21] When the person takes out the permit, all of these fees are set up, and
[17:25] then there's an extra fee below the impact fees that's
[17:29] for the Arts Commission. It's called an impact fee, but it's
[17:33] not an impact fee in the true sense of the word.
[17:36] The way all of these are subject to state legislation as to how they can
[17:40] be used and how they can be collected.
[17:42] The other one is
[17:44] not. It's a city set ordinance.
[17:48] Okay. But since it's a city ordinance, then it doesn't need to be reported on what
[17:51] we're looking with revenues.
[17:53] Right.
[17:53] It's 300 and some thousand in impact fees to these
[17:56] various things that are stayed, but is there another category
[18:00] somewhere that shows what the Arts Council should have been?
[18:04] Yes.
[18:05] Okay.
[18:05] Yes, there is.
[18:07] What
[18:08] you received here is the funds that were
[18:11] budgetedThe Arts Commission funds were not
[18:15] budgeted. They are being tracked, they're being reported on separately, but they
[18:19] were not budgeted. Now, we can certainly add them to this
[18:22] budget.
[18:24] It's just that there was no set dollar amounts.
[18:26] It was just whatever they had on hand.
[18:28] For next year, for 26/27, there will definitely be a budget
[18:32] for the Arts Commission
[18:35] based on some estimates as to what might come in for the Arts
[18:39] Commission. But they are there, they are being tracked, they're just not reported
[18:42] here. But we can certainly add them.
[18:46] Okay, I just want to make sure that those are being tracked and that the-
[18:48] Yes
[18:49] ... arts grants being comprised of any monies that are due them under...
[18:53] It's one of the items on tonight's agenda we can talk about more there.
[18:56] That I just, when I saw these impact fees and didn't see their name,
[19:00] I'm still trying to learn the processes here. Thank you.
[19:03] Any other questions from the council?
[19:05] Yeah, if I could, Madam, just through the chair.
[19:07] Again, Roberto, just for clarification, I don't want to leave this one unsaid.
[19:12] These funds have been collected as they come in.
[19:14] They're based on applicants, right?
[19:17] So they're not based on some easily predictable number.
[19:19] If there are no applicants, there are no fees.
[19:22] Also, in the ordinance, there are exemptions from that fee.
[19:25] Was that correct?
[19:27] Yes, it is.
[19:28] It is, because I've read the ordinance.
[19:29] So there could be an actual development where that fee does not
[19:33] appear on their fee schedule because it's an exempt
[19:37] entity. For example, if a nonprofit were
[19:41] to construct.
[19:42] Okay. Awesome.
[19:44] There you go. So it is entirely possible that you could have
[19:48] activity in the community where that particular
[19:51] fee is not assessed. Also, I don't know so much about
[19:55] budgeting this unless it's an actual line item budget.
[19:58] This is actually, if I understood it, and it's been around for a while,
[20:02] this was an effort by prior councils to show their support for
[20:06] arts in our community, and we've appreciated what they've done and are still
[20:10] doing. And so we think that the real
[20:14] wagon we've hitched to here, which is development, was probably at least
[20:18] originally the right
[20:20] wagon to hitch to. If future councils decide that
[20:24] isn't the way to do it, and so that it's not dependent on
[20:27] applications, it's not dependent, that would be a brand-new decision
[20:31] for the Council of May. So I've got that all right, right, Roberto?
[20:36] Perfect.
[20:38] You got it.
[20:38] Right?
[20:40] Yeah, so I think that would be maybe what we'll actually discuss
[20:43] tonight, whether or not that's what the Arts Commission is actually asking
[20:47] for-
[20:48] Yeah
[20:48] ... is a different approach to how they're funded.
[20:50] Thank you.
[20:51] Okay, any other questions by council on the budget?
[20:56] All right, we will return it to the consent calendar,
[21:00] as well as the treasurer's report that you had a question about.
[21:04] Yeah, I'll wait for another report.
[21:06] It's not appropriate tonight to try to ask somebody like Letty who's not here what
[21:11] is going on. The people I've asked haven't been able to tell me who's on that
[21:13] investment committee. I don't think it's a big deal.
[21:16] I think we could accept her report at a future meeting, and obviously, she can
[21:20] flesh that out for us to my satisfaction, I'm sure.
[21:23] Okay. So we are going to then approve item
[21:28] H.
[21:29] We've had a motion. We've had a second.
[21:32] We've had-
[21:33] Richard, did you approve?
[21:34] Not on this. So we pulled H and I, so if you could do a
[21:38] joint motion, we could-
[21:39] We pulled D, H, and I.
[21:41] Correct. D, H, and I.
[21:42] And that was the motion we made.
[21:44] Correct.
[21:44] That was second.
[21:45] Now the issue is whether your approval of H and
[21:49] I is separate than that.
[21:51] Yeah.
[21:51] Yeah, outside, since we pulled it, they weren't approved.
[21:55] So now it's just a motion to accept.
[21:58] So if I may, I'll go ahead and move. My question's been answered by
[22:02] Roberto. I'll move to approve an H and add on the consent
[22:05] calendar as was said.
[22:07] Okay, a motion to be seconded. Officer Bigger? Oh, second.
[22:11] Second.
[22:11] Okay.
[22:12] Are you approving I, because I thought we were bringing it back?
[22:15] Yeah, just kind of a point of order here.
[22:17] We're not required to adopt everything on the consent calendar.
[22:20] No.
[22:21] I think the council's made it clear there are three items of concern.
[22:24] There's no point in accepting a budget that's not clear.
[22:28] We're hearing that in May we have a better budget report.
[22:31] I would not support approving a budget report that we know
[22:34] isn't going to be the one that's accurate. So I think we can...
[22:38] I mean, do whatever you want, but I'm going to vote no
[22:41] on approving H or I because we've already decided
[22:46] those items are not appropriate to consent to tonight,
[22:50] and that's all we're talking.
[22:51] Okay.
[22:52] Agree.
[22:53] So this requires no further motion-
[22:55] No
[22:55] ... since it's been pulled then?
[22:56] It's up to the council.
[22:57] Yeah.
[22:59] It's just us.
[23:00] Okay, just our table.
[23:01] It's up to the council.
[23:02] Welcome back.
[23:03] Yeah. Just-
[23:04] Continue from where we-
[23:05] The eight people
[23:06] ... Yeah.
[23:08] Mr. Mayor. Sorry. Actually, I would like for staff on
[23:13] item 8B for the
[23:16] districting,
[23:17] ask the council to consider adding language for-
[23:21] Mm-hmm
[23:22] ... the use of independent redistricting commission to map out future
[23:26] maps.
[23:27] I know Orland has been pretty, I feel like has been pretty well
[23:31] in keeping national politics out of
[23:35] what we do here.
[23:37] So I feel like
[23:39] adding that extra step so that when future districting maps come
[23:43] about, we don't kind of fight over that.
[23:46] And so if we use an independent redistricting commission, that'll
[23:49] keep choosing the maps or
[23:54] it'll allow the voters to choose their league instead of us up here
[23:57] choosing who our voters league will be.
[24:00] So-
[24:01] Okay. So-
[24:01] So if I could suggest-
[24:03] Sure
[24:03] ... yeah, a way to kind of address that.
[24:05] Yeah.
[24:05] I think that's a good... One of the reasons why I want to put this on for regular
[24:08] business, so what we can do is put it on.
[24:11] There isn't really a rush now that we're going to wait.
[24:13] Right.
[24:14] So we'll put this on, and then we can have that discussion.
[24:16] Sure. I just wanted to make sure so we don't-
[24:18] Thank you
[24:18] ... go to that discussion and then-
[24:19] Go-
[24:19] ... wait for that.
[24:20] Yeah. Yeah.
[24:21] Thank you.
[24:22] Okay. Thank you.
[24:24] Okay, administrative business. Council accomplishments, reports, and
[24:27] commissions.
[24:29] We just have our list of reports and commissions.
[24:31] Yeah, we approved ours.
[24:35] Yeah.
[24:36] Two weeks
[24:38] ago.
[24:38] And as was said,
[24:41] previous appointments were made in April
[24:45] after Mr. Romal left the council. At this
[24:49] point in time, are there any changes that anyone would like to
[24:53] suggest? Any
[24:56] new appointments or anyone on any of the appointments that they'd like to
[25:01] discuss or change?
[25:05] Well, I have one for the Golden
[25:09] State GRSK team.
[25:10] I guess the meeting that I went to last week was the last one
[25:14] for that seat, and I guess it's moving to Crescent City, so they'll get a
[25:18] seat.
[25:19] Mm.
[25:20] We don't want-
[25:20] Yeah. Let's go with mine.
[25:22] Yeah.
[25:25] Okay. Anything else?
[25:28] No.
[25:28] No. How about you, John?
[25:30] No. I'm fine.
[25:31] Okay.
[25:32] So I'm the new guy here, literally first meeting,
[25:36] so I know there would be some expectation that I would look for one of these where
[25:40] I may serve. And I will, in a future time, do that.
[25:43] Right now, what I've focused my time on is I've met with the four department
[25:47] heads,
[25:48] to get the lay of the land. I think eventually I'll get to see where
[25:52] these additional responsibilities fall and where I can be of some
[25:56] help. But I'd let the mayor know when we talk about this, that I'll be here to
[26:00] help. I'm just not ready to commit to one of those commissions tonight.
[26:04] Okay.
[26:07] That leaves me, and I have a pretty hefty schedule that
[26:11] is hard. I was explaining to Wade
[26:15] that
[26:16] trying to be effective with this many that I'm trying to learn,
[26:20] as well as keep up with on a monthly basis, has been a little
[26:24] overwhelming for me. I literally
[26:27] am on 13 different committees.
[26:31] Many of those are monthly. Some of them are every other
[26:35] month. But I am hoping that at least one
[26:39] other member here would be willing to take one of them from me.
[26:43] The ones that regularly meet are Arts, Library,
[26:47] and Waste Management, the Groundwater
[26:50] Sustainability Agency.
[26:53] And I'd like to keep Arts, but if there is another member
[26:57] here that might be able to step forward and take the Groundwater
[27:01] Sustainability or the Waste Management, that would really help.
[27:05] Is there anybody here that might be able to take that?
[27:08] Mayor, just to help you out on the Groundwater, too, once we have
[27:12] Zach here, we can always send him your project, have him be
[27:16] put for that.
[27:17] That's it. Need an appointment, though.
[27:19] I find that each time I try to change something, I have to go to county
[27:23] City Selection Committee.
[27:25] Because they're already assigned.
[27:26] We have, I think we have a seat there, and then Zach, as well.
[27:30] So I remember that we dealt with that last time.
[27:33] Okay.
[27:33] So that'll help you out there. And then other than that,
[27:36] obviously you have your stuff you like.
[27:38] If you could wait just a meeting or so, because then
[27:43] Wade will figure out where he wants to help us out, too, because I'm looking at it
[27:46] here thinking,
[27:48] "Yeah, let's see what you like."
[27:50] They were good in it. Okay. Well, Zach, if you-
[27:54] Mayor, I think I need to verify with the
[27:57] county first to make sure it's not one of
[28:01] the council members, because he is staff.
[28:04] I just want to verify first with Zach, okay?
[28:07] Sure.
[28:07] Yeah, I don't know, so I need to verify.
[28:08] I think we have-
[28:09] Yeah. Okay
[28:10] ...
[28:11] to be
[28:13] discussing further.
[28:15] I think it's worth it. He
[28:18] likes.
[28:19] Okay.
[28:19] Okay?
[28:20] Okay. We're doing that for now. We'll move on to the next
[28:24] one for proposed SB 1 funded project, road repair and
[28:28] accountability, Paul Ravo, Public Works.
[28:34] Good evening, Mayor, council members.
[28:37] We've got a report here
[28:40] that we bring up every single year.
[28:42] It's for the use of Senate Bill 1, Road
[28:46] Repair and Accountability Act of 2017 funds.
[28:51] This was passed by the state legislature, signed into law,
[28:55] and essentially they
[28:58] set aside a certain amount of funding each year for every
[29:02] agency, and then that money is used towards
[29:06] projects that we want to get done. And it's
[29:09] specifically road. It's not trying to
[29:14] beautify, like the bee sculptures or something like that on I-5.
[29:18] So,
[29:19] we put together a list of projects that are found in the
[29:23] resolution there,
[29:25] items 2A through I. And
[29:29] the funds can be used for construction,
[29:33] putting in curb, gutter, sidewalk,
[29:36] roadway rehabilitation.
[29:39] We've also used it in the past for design services
[29:43] and construction management.
[29:46] Anything related to construction,
[29:48] and roadways specifically.
[29:52] So the projects that are listed here came out of the
[29:55] pavement management program that the county helped us prepare.
[30:00] And this is the starting point. I think in years past,
[30:04] some council members have had thoughts on other streets that they wanted to
[30:08] see done. This is just where I start with these
[30:12] projects, because it's
[30:14] kind of founded, as far as the roads have been assessed
[30:17] and
[30:19] a certain quality has been determined for them and,
[30:23] yeah. It gives me the starting point.
[30:24] So if-If there's any questions
[30:28] about those projects, I'd be happy to answer.
[30:32] If there's
[30:33] no comments or any questions,
[30:35] then we recommend you adopt the
[30:39] resolution, because then we have to upload it to the state-
[30:42] Yeah
[30:43] ... for them to know what we plan on doing and how we're going to use the funds.
[30:47] It's a part of their transparency. So.
[30:51] And then only the SB1 funds would be used for the
[30:54] maintenance and rehabilitation of the roadways. Yeah.
[31:01] Public comment, yes.
[31:02] Public comment on the SB1 discussion.
[31:07] Online?
[31:09] No.
[31:11] Okay. Council?
[31:13] Good.
[31:14] Casey.
[31:14] A few questions.
[31:16] These eight streets that
[31:20] you've listed, could they use up the entirety of the 244,000?
[31:26] It's possible. It just depends on how we get
[31:31] what we get for bids-
[31:32] Yeah
[31:32] ... when we put them out. But-
[31:34] Those are just our shower guys table?
[31:37] Well, when I chose them, I try to choose them in a fashion, because
[31:41] this here has a lovely breakdown of what this
[31:45] consultant thought all the costs would be for each project.
[31:48] Mm-hmm.
[31:48] And I kind of adjusted a little bit for increasing construction
[31:52] costs. And so I do my best to come
[31:56] close to what the funds are that we have available.
[32:00] Thanks. And then I have a question about
[32:05] one of the streets you recommended, was recommended to
[32:09] have a rubberized cape seal or rubberized cape.
[32:13] Mm-hmm.
[32:14] Yeah, that was-
[32:15] What does that entail?
[32:17] So, most of the projects on here are a crack seal and
[32:21] then a slurry seal, so they go through...
[32:24] You've probably seen public works out there, right?
[32:26] And they just put some sealer and some cracks and
[32:30] hopefully you don't get water in there breaking the roadway apart further.
[32:33] And then they do a slurry seal, which is just like a-
[32:37] Mm-hmm
[32:37] ... essentially looks like they're painting the road black, right?
[32:40] And then they re-stripe it. The rubberized cape seal
[32:44] is just a heavier duty version of a slurry seal.
[32:48] Are these all just... I'm fixated on the
[32:52] rubberized keyword. Are they all polymers?
[32:55] Are they all plastics?
[32:56] Um-
[32:57] I guess rubber?
[32:59] The crack sealing and
[33:01] the-
[33:02] It's kind of a bituminous thing.
[33:04] For the crack sealing and the slurry seal it's
[33:08] a petroleum kind of bituminous product.
[33:11] The rubberized cape, it's not like we're putting
[33:15] down a layer of rubber, it's just some of the
[33:19] material. It's like a Caltrans specification
[33:23] on materials that are used within that product.
[33:27] And so it's not like it's 100% rubber and we're going to be bouncing down the
[33:31] road, right?
[33:31] Right.
[33:32] It's just a small amount.
[33:34] Yeah.
[33:34] It's like, technically, say, if you're using a recycled asphalt
[33:38] pavement, they're using just a small portion.
[33:42] It's not the full thing, so.
[33:44] And how much better is that versus crack sealing or-
[33:49] Well, so the crack sealing and the slurry seal are
[33:53] for roads that
[33:56] are still in fairly good shape, and we're just trying to prevent them from falling
[34:00] apart. And I think in here, we have the estimated
[34:03] lifespans. Those crack seal and slurries are about a
[34:07] five to eight year
[34:09] timeframe. And so, you kind of stay ahead of the game.
[34:12] That's kind of your preventative maintenance.
[34:14] The rubberized cape seal means maybe the road is a little bit less
[34:19] condition or worse condition.
[34:21] Yeah.
[34:22] And so you're just trying to give it that little extra oomph
[34:25] that the slurry seal can't do. And
[34:28] then you get to the other end and you're redoing the complete road
[34:32] because it's been too long. And so the
[34:36] slurry seal and the cape seal are a form of preventative maintenance.
[34:40] Okay. The main reason I ask is I keep seeing more and more
[34:43] studies about microplastics-
[34:45] Mm-hmm
[34:45] ... in the environment, and the rubberized seal being an
[34:49] additional microplastic that will eventually leach into our
[34:52] waters.
[34:55] So
[34:56] if it doesn't provide too much extra
[34:59] usefulness to the road, I'd rather you avoid using that, unless
[35:03] you feel that it is
[35:06] equivalent to slurry sealing or crack
[35:10] sealing,
[35:11] or the same as having someone burning up.
[35:16] Well, we can
[35:18] always visit the method.
[35:21] I guess for right now,
[35:25] just to use the funds, we have to say these are the projects and if we
[35:30] can take a look at that, and if we go, "Hey, rubberized
[35:33] is something we can
[35:36] avoid using that on that particular road, and we can use this other method,"
[35:40] then we can definitely look into that.
[35:42] That's all good. Thank you.
[35:43] Mm-hmm.
[35:43] Ben.
[35:44] I would move to adopt resolution 2026
[35:48] next in line and authorize the city manager as designee to submit to the
[35:51] California Transportation Commission, the city's
[35:54] 2026-27 SB1 project list.
[35:58] We're really getting the backbone questions. Great job, big brother.
[36:01] Hey, just a quick end point. So we're talking about last week's.
[36:05] I know. Amy,
[36:07] what's up with the... Is the bridge going to get done on Shasta that crosses in
[36:11] Brian, basically? Or are they just going to stop there
[36:13] at...
[36:17] Because-
[36:18] Because you don't like that bridge?
[36:20] Yeah, because we keep bottleneck right here with it being fired, and I'm getting
[36:23] tired of having the public trying to leave while we're trying to get in, and God
[36:25] loves them for leaving, but I'm getting interested in that.
[36:28] But my question is, is that part of the budget? That's all.
[36:32] It is currently included in the Shasta Street project, yes.
[36:36] Okay.
[36:36] And so this-By putting it
[36:39] on this list, we would be taking the approach that we did on Tehama,
[36:44] and that would be we're using the SB1 funds to help
[36:47] us with the design, the environmental, some of those preliminary and
[36:51] design portions, because then the construction money is a
[36:55] different funding source.
[36:57] Right.
[36:57] And we would like to use all of that construction
[37:00] money.
[37:01] We need to break it down at least.
[37:04] We only get 20 years worth. That's just pretty much the way that it shapes for
[37:08] everything they have funded. My only thing is we're going to be building houses
[37:10] all. We've already talked about it.
[37:12] Yep.
[37:12] But if we can just make sure that gets at least designed or something.
[37:15] Yeah.
[37:16] Because, yeah, nothing we can do this year.
[37:17] It's on the wish list, I think.
[37:19] It's got the approval.
[37:20] My only question is that,
[37:23] it references the city uses its existing budget
[37:27] together with the SB1 funds. Does that mean the budget that we have for
[37:30] 2026, '27 that we're creating now, or should we have
[37:34] funds left over from '25, '26? Where are we going to get the money to pay our
[37:38] portion of this? Do we have an idea?
[37:41] What portion? What do you mean by portion?
[37:43] I think it's-
[37:44] Well, it says we have to use our existing budget with the
[37:47] SB1 funds to do these
[37:51] projects.
[37:52] Because this always goes in the budget. That's what...
[37:56] Yeah. So,
[37:59] I guess what I would say is sometimes there is a potential that,
[38:03] depending on how the bids come in, that the SB1
[38:07] funds can't cover all of the projects that
[38:11] we want to do. And we can make the decision at
[38:15] that time that, hey, we're only going to do six of the eight projects
[38:19] and that-
[38:20] Then we can adjust that. It's not a sharing thing.
[38:22] We don't have the money unless you put in your own portion.
[38:25] No.
[38:26] Okay.
[38:26] As far as I know, yeah, this funding does not require a match from the
[38:30] local agency.
[38:32] Okay. Just making sure. Thank you.
[38:33] Mm-hmm.
[38:33] I think that's all. Vote for it. We may found a motion.
[38:36] I made the motion.
[38:37] Yes.
[38:37] We're just waiting for a second.
[38:38] Second the motion.
[38:40] Okay, motion has been seconded. All those in favor?
[38:43] Aye.
[38:45] Aye.
[38:46] Motion carried.
[38:48] All right. Going to move to the Arts Commission finance.
[38:52] Janet Blackmer.
[38:53] Thank you, Mayor and city council members.
[38:56] So,
[38:57] the Arts Commission was created by the Oregon Municipal Code,
[39:01] and as determined by the language in the code, they receive one quarter
[39:05] of 1% of any revenue from qualified building permits.
[39:10] And as we alluded to earlier, that means something that gets
[39:13] federal funding or like the self-help homes,
[39:17] they
[39:18] would not be required to contribute to the Arts Commission fund.
[39:23] And so again, a monthly report is compiled, and has been
[39:27] since the beginning, and it's submitted to the Arts Commission for their review
[39:31] at a public hearing. Now,
[39:34] in a recent audit of the commission's financial status, it
[39:38] was determined that the revenue amount reported to the commission did not
[39:42] match what was in the city's financial program.
[39:45] So because of this, the commission found their balance to be such
[39:48] amount, which is approximately 5,000.
[39:52] I can't give you to date, because I know some funds have been coming in.
[39:56] But they had to review their expenses going forward.
[39:59] Moreover, upon review of future city projects, and that's when I allude
[40:03] to
[40:04] when things are being constructed, and we are seeing houses being built, that those
[40:08] are the self-help houses.
[40:09] Yeah.
[40:09] So they're not charged an assessment.
[40:12] So,
[40:13] when we looked at that, it was determined that additional revenues could not be
[40:17] expected in the near future.
[40:19] So at their meeting, at the Arts Commission's meeting of May 6th, a few
[40:23] expenses were eliminated, and a means of building
[40:27] revenues were discussed. And the commission proposes to create a
[40:31] GoFundMe page, and that was at the time of this agenda, to collect revenue to
[40:34] make up for the shortfall. We don't have any recommendation
[40:39] of... It's just purely to let you know what's the status of the Arts
[40:43] Commission at this point.
[40:44] You have any questions?
[40:49] Okay. Now I'll open it to public comment.
[40:59] Okay. Any online?
[41:02] No.
[41:02] Nobody.
[41:04] Jill.
[41:05] My
[41:05] name
[41:11] is Jill Elliott. I am on the Orland Arts Commission.
[41:14] I live here in town. I was-
[41:16] Jill, could you please speak into for those people online?
[41:20] Thank you.
[41:22] I just wanted
[41:23] it to be noted that the amount our
[41:28] account was reduced by was $24,000.
[41:31] Oh.
[41:33] So it has left us in a
[41:37] sudden
[41:39] lurch. So I just wanted that to be brought
[41:43] forward.
[41:45] And
[41:46] it's a lot of money.
[41:49] Yeah. So
[41:51] I just wanted you to know.
[41:55] I think I have a question for you.
[41:56] Okay.
[41:56] And thank you for being here.
[41:58] Right.
[41:58] I want to make sure I understand.
[42:00] Does the Arts Commission get a number
[42:04] projected from the city
[42:06] that you were operating on, and then the number didn't come out right
[42:10] because we didn't have enough projects that committed to it or?
[42:13] There was no projection. We did-
[42:15] How did the shortfall happen?
[42:17] There was a review,
[42:20] how Janet explained it,
[42:22] and the main
[42:26] accounting system with this city did not
[42:32] relate to our monthly financial
[42:35] report that we get from Leti. And so,
[42:39] it was determined that there had been an
[42:42] erroneous or just a mistaken
[42:46] entry back in 2022 that gave usUm,
[42:51] an impact fee of $24,000, um, and
[42:55] some change. And so that was carried along on
[42:59] the financial report since 2022, but then about a month ago,
[43:03] it came to light that that was a mistake.
[43:06] And so-
[43:08] Boy, that's a big one, huh?
[43:09] Yeah.
[43:10] Yeah.
[43:10] It's-
[43:11] So were those funds actually transferred, or they were just on your
[43:14] budget as expected?
[43:16] They were
[43:21] added to our financial report as a
[43:26] incoming-
[43:26] As an asset
[43:27] ... fee. Yes, as an asset.
[43:29] Okay.
[43:29] But it was really, the number was
[43:33] not a real number. It was just a, um, running
[43:37] balance or something that just got added in by mistake and
[43:41] had, um, no connection to anything.
[43:45] Mm-hmm.
[43:46] Um, but we just didn't know because it said an impact fee, and at the time we were
[43:50] getting a lot of impact fees.
[43:53] Yeah.
[43:53] The city, you know, the city what's in 2022.
[43:57] It helps to know that, understand that. Thank you.
[44:00] You're welcome.
[44:02] You wanted to make the other kind of mistake.
[44:04] What do you think?
[44:05] You're getting money you didn't know that.
[44:07] Or you think you're getting money,
[44:09] whatever.
[44:11] So, anyways, um, I don't know if anybody have any other question.
[44:15] Has the GoFundMe page been created?
[44:17] No. Not that I'm aware of. This just, um, because it
[44:20] happened just a month ago or so, we've just been,
[44:25] um, trying to decide what to do because we have
[44:29] certain expenses every month, like our rent and heat we
[44:33] need.
[44:33] Mm-hmm.
[44:34] And all of a sudden we literally have about $5,000
[44:37] available, and our monthly expenses are, you know,
[44:41] just to keep the lights on and the rent are $1,000, and that's it go.
[44:45] A short window.
[44:46] Very short window.
[44:48] Mm-hmm.
[44:49] Yes. But we have put a call out and we're trying to do what we
[44:53] can.
[44:58] Thank you.
[44:59] Thank you.
[45:01] Thank you.
[45:03] My name's Janet Jonday. When I first moved to
[45:06] Orland and saw the Art Center, I was so
[45:10] amazed that a town this size would have an Art Center.
[45:15] Such an incredible
[45:20] display
[45:22] and art from farther away. It's really wonderful.
[45:26] So
[45:27] I hope that we as a community can join together and
[45:31] find a way to continue to support the Arts Commission.
[45:34] I know they do more than just manage the Art
[45:38] Center. Uh,
[45:40] I feel I've been a recipient of the bounty that
[45:44] Art Center and the Arts Commission has provided.
[45:48] And I would be happy to
[45:50] donate to the GoFundMe.
[45:53] Um, hearing Valerie talk about the gala that raised money for,
[45:58] for her animal, uh, spay and neuter surg- surgical
[46:02] center.
[46:03] There must be many ideas we could come up with to, um,
[46:08] as a community,
[46:09] put the word out and, and have some kind of celebration of the arts
[46:13] that could bring in money that kind of thing.
[46:16] So, um, I'm
[46:17] willing to do my part and I hope that we can find a
[46:20] way to rectify the situation.
[46:24] Thank you.
[46:28] Hello, Ray.
[46:29] Hello.
[46:29] Thank you for coming out.
[46:31] You're welcome. Tell me if you can hear me in the back.
[46:35] Yes, ma'am.
[46:37] Uh, we
[46:38] have already asked our patrons. One of the ways
[46:42] we generate our own income is to have
[46:46] people pay $50 a year, and they
[46:50] become a patron of the arts. We have already
[46:53] approached them and told them we are in dire straits
[46:57] through no fault of our own, and through a
[47:01] mistake that
[47:02] was not found for four years, we find
[47:06] ourselves in a very awkward position.
[47:10] We would have to close our doors,
[47:13] and we know that the community does not want that.
[47:18] Um,
[47:19] the biggest expense that we have, and would need help
[47:23] with, possibly if the city could help us with
[47:27] that, is our electric bill.
[47:30] It's huge, and we all know what those electric
[47:34] bills are like. If the city could find
[47:38] a way to just take our electrics bill, we
[47:42] could manage the rest of it.
[47:45] Um, I realize this is not a good time
[47:49] to ask the city to help us, because the city has
[47:53] its own problems of being over budget, et cetera.
[47:57] We're not looking for handouts.
[48:01] Although we are asking for them, and we have already had
[48:05] many people contributing,
[48:08] uh, and saying, "We want this to stay." So
[48:12] realistically, we know that we bring something to the
[48:15] city that it doesn't have without us, and that doesn't
[48:19] count all of the special projects that we've done.
[48:23] We want to keep going forward.
[48:25] Anything that the city could come up with to help us
[48:29] would be appreciated.
[48:32] So that's basically it, and if you have any questions for me,
[48:36] I'd be happy to answer them.
[48:38] Thank you very much.
[48:40] Thank you, Ray.
[48:42] Steve.
[48:47] Hi there. I'm Steve Elliot. Uh, I'm an Arts Commission- Arts Commissioner, and I
[48:51] also am a citizen of Orland.
[48:55] The Arts Commission doesn't have their own money.
[48:58] Our funds come from the
[49:01] city. So even the donations that we make
[49:05] essentially go into the city coffers.
[49:08] It's just that we have an accounting of our
[49:12] own, keeping track of the money that we spend and what we
[49:16] bring in. So
[49:18] yeah, those numbers,
[49:21] they're just on paper. They're not money in the bank.
[49:25] So that money never existed. So the problem, the real
[49:29] pinch is that,
[49:32] if we had known a year ago the position that we were in, we could have
[49:36] made
[49:38] provisions to keep ourselves going.
[49:40] But this came up so suddenly and left us with so
[49:44] little that we're scrambling to get donations
[49:48] and things like that,
[49:50] just so that the obligations that we have...
[49:52] We have a show that's running right now that's supposed to run through-
[49:58] June
[49:59] ... June. And we're not even sure we're going to have the door open for that one.
[50:03] We have a big show planned for July.
[50:05] And we don't want to see the doors closed at all, but
[50:11] we've put a lot of work into
[50:13] what's happening and what will happen in the gallery.
[50:16] So I don't know what the answer is, but just want to let you know what our
[50:20] position is.
[50:21] Thank you, Steve.
[50:24] Okay, do we have other
[50:27] comments on this?
[50:30] Yes, ma'am.
[50:32] Real quick question. You mentioned about the electric bill.
[50:37] How much is it?
[50:39] I would defer that to Jill, who's previously been the treasurer for
[50:43] the commission. The question is, how much is the electric bill
[50:47] a month?
[50:50] About $50 per month. Like in July, maybe it's
[50:54] $1,200 and it just ebbs and flows month by month.
[50:58] Yeah. The summertime is the worst, but that's also some of the best
[51:02] time for their shows because we have downtown and pickups happening
[51:06] and things.
[51:07] I just thought if we had that
[51:08] figure in mind, maybe it would
[51:11] give us some idea.
[51:12] Okay. Thank you. I think from, I'm the liaison with the
[51:16] Arts Commission, and I think our discussions
[51:20] led to it being probably an average of $1,000 a month.
[51:23] When you take the months that aren't quite so bad and then you add the months that
[51:27] are summer months and the air conditioning's running, it runs about $1,000 a month.
[51:31] Between $800 and $1,000 a month, somewhere in there.
[51:35] Roland Knight, Economic Development Commission.
[51:38] I don't know what the roof looks like over there, but possibly throwing some solar
[51:41] panels helps offset some of that electric bill. It helps me in the summer.
[51:46] It helps me.
[51:48] The way I look at it, my solar pays for my AC in the summer.
[51:51] That's about it. But it helps.
[51:53] Good suggestion.
[51:55] Okay.
[51:59] Always sunny in Morganton City.
[52:03] We are more than grateful for our community, and we
[52:09] know the struggles of starting a small
[52:13] nonprofit to get going and off the ground and become
[52:16] sustainable. We've had our ups and downs, for sure.
[52:20] And we're at that point where we are becoming very sustainable on our own,
[52:24] so we want to be a nonprofit that actually gives back, just like the
[52:28] City of Willow, the Willows Thrift Shop does
[52:32] that with their thrift shop, and they've helped us the last couple of years, which
[52:36] is really amazing how everybody comes together.
[52:40] And with that, we'd be more than happy to put together a fundraiser for the Art
[52:44] Commission and help them in any way that we can to give
[52:48] back and help them with their PG&E bill or their rent, however we could
[52:52] with from the Cats.
[52:54] Thanks.
[52:55] Great. Thank you, Valerie. Any other thoughts in the audience?
[53:00] Okay. We're going to get things all done.
[53:04] No, I just thought I will shake some trees for you and see if we can get something
[53:08] nice from that. And appreciate what you guys do, y'all always show
[53:12] up.
[53:13] But I know that's the animal with community, so it's something we can do.
[53:17] But no, appreciate it, and I'm sorry it had to happen.
[53:22] John,
[53:23] thoughts?
[53:24] No.
[53:26] Well, Steve, with whom I share a last name and striking good
[53:30] looks-
[53:31] ... I'll see what I can do as well. As I heard John mention, I
[53:35] think I can help connect you with some resources, too.
[53:39] Okay.
[53:39] Thank you.
[53:40] And I'm not sure if this would come up during budget discussions, but
[53:44] I did also had a thought, and I consider the art
[53:48] gallery part of Orleans economic development, and this involved
[53:52] you, Art.
[53:54] I know that we had some of those art funds that were for
[53:58] possibly a city gate.
[54:00] Could we
[54:02] have a discussion with the Economic Development Commission that they might want to
[54:05] reassign some of those funds to another economic development
[54:09] project, which is the Arts Council?
[54:12] The money has been there for five years and not been used, and maybe that's
[54:15] somewhere they could get a little piece of the action without trying to tap into
[54:19] the general fund further.
[54:21] I believe that money still sits there. So anyways.
[54:26] Around $30,000, $32,000.
[54:28] Yeah.
[54:28] We're open to that.
[54:29] Now, I don't know if that means we need to refer the council, the Arts Commission,
[54:33] to go before the... This is a question for you, Scott, to go
[54:37] before the Economic Development Commission to ask their thoughts on
[54:41] that. It's money that's within their coffers.
[54:43] It's in their ability to use those funds.
[54:47] Yeah, that would be fine.
[54:48] Okay.
[54:48] And we don't have an actual budget, but we can-
[54:51] But those funds-
[54:52] We have-
[54:52] ... are earmarked for the EDC to decide how to use them, enable the
[54:56] application.To make a reservation
[54:59] Once you've been sent elsewhere, you have to make the reservation to send
[55:01] elsewhere.
[55:01] And?
[55:02] The only caveat with that is
[55:05] we haven't had an EDC meeting in three months-
[55:07] Oh
[55:07] ... because of the city
[55:10] manager situation. So as soon as that could get tied up, we
[55:14] can have a meeting so that we could discuss it.
[55:16] Can you not have a meeting without a city manager? Or why?
[55:21] I don't know if it's-
[55:21] That's always the way
[55:22] ... that's the way it is, but there's-
[55:23] And that's a rule? That's the one that runs the meeting.
[55:27] Is the city manager.
[55:28] And we rely on them for
[55:32] roles, history, a lot of stuff like you do.
[55:36] They're kind of-
[55:38] Is there any way we can-
[55:39] I'm sorry. Sorry.
[55:40] We can schedule a meeting. We can schedule a meeting just
[55:44] specifically for this one agenda item.
[55:46] With Janet's situation and our situation, we
[55:50] didn't feel it was prudent to have an EDC meeting with her limited
[55:54] hours with-
[55:55] Right
[55:55] ... the budget situation the city's in.
[55:57] We felt like her hours were more-
[56:00] Okay
[56:00] ... appropriated to handle the big stuff.
[56:02] But yeah, as soon as we have a meeting, we're more than willing
[56:06] to.
[56:07] Yeah, I think it's going to come back before us now that Mr.
[56:11] Goodman has separated his employment.
[56:13] We will be in the search, and the problem is how long can the
[56:17] arts commission hold out without additional funding.
[56:21] Our next scheduled meeting is Tuesday, June 9th.
[56:25] Okay.
[56:25] Which is in two and a half weeks.
[56:28] Okay, and we've also had a little bit of reprieve because Janet is free to
[56:32] roam around for a little bit. But this also can be discussed during the
[56:35] budget process.
[56:37] Okay. Yeah.
[56:37] This doesn't have to go to UNC.
[56:39] Okay.
[56:39] Because we still need to know how much is available still with the art program.
[56:43] We're still budgeting. We are still in the budgeting, yes. The next meeting, right?
[56:47] Do you want to send it over?
[56:47] Yes. Yeah. Okay. We'll see what's available-
[56:52] Okay
[56:52] ... in the budget.
[56:53] If I could ask a question. Mr. Wine, thank you for that suggestion.
[56:55] I think it's a great one. It could certainly bridge this gap,
[57:00] maybe salve this
[57:03] wound.
[57:04] But the real question, Janet, can you attend the June 9th meeting on behalf of the
[57:07] city and allow them to have that meeting so that-
[57:10] Sure
[57:10] ... arts commission members could come and speak to them to the topic?
[57:15] Yeah. We forget that-
[57:16] There we go. I'm not trying to put pressure on anybody, just-
[57:19] There's no pressure
[57:20] ... bringing it to the fact that we haven't had a meeting because of the
[57:23] circumstances.
[57:23] Thank you for letting us know that.
[57:24] Okay.
[57:24] It's important that you need it.
[57:25] Okay. I
[57:29] don't believe there's a committee of motion or action we can take other than just-
[57:32] No
[57:32] ... thank you for the information, and thank you for your time to come out
[57:36] tonight and I know you've been battling diligently to do everything you can.
[57:40] And I put it on the agenda primarily because I wanted the transparency and the
[57:43] public to know that they are attempting
[57:47] to put together a GoFundMe page. And I did
[57:52] check with the city attorney to make sure that that was something as the city we
[57:55] were allowed to do, since the arts commission is a
[57:59] commission authorized by the city.
[58:01] So, I wanted this council to know that as well,
[58:05] since all of you need to know what's going on, and I can't talk to them if I don't
[58:09] get the okay. Okay? So I think we're in
[58:13] a place that, cross our words, we're going to find some solutions for everything.
[58:17] Okay? I think it's pretty unanimous up here.
[58:20] We're going to find solutions.
[58:23] Thank you. Thanks for everything you've done.
[58:25] It's incredible,
[58:28] this building. And the art is... I think that you're booked all the
[58:32] way through the end of the year with shows, aren't you? Yes. You are.
[58:36] Okay. Thank you very much. We're going to move on now.
[58:43] All right. We have the hazardous material survey report for
[58:46] 824 Fourth Street, the Purity Building, and 912
[58:50] Third Street, the Carnegie Hall. Janet?
[58:54] Good evening again, Mayor and city council members.
[58:58] I believe the council had authorized staff to execute a
[59:01] $21,000 contract to conduct a comprehensive hazardous
[59:05] material survey. They contracted with G-One Construction,
[59:09] and they performed it with the assistance of Vista Environmental
[59:13] Consulting. They performed pre-renovation
[59:16] hazardous material surveys for the two buildings, as the mayor said.
[59:20] This building, and also the former Purity building that's on Fourth
[59:24] Street.
[59:25] And this was done in January. The surveys were performed to identify and
[59:29] sample accessible suspect asbestos-containing
[59:33] materials, representative building components for the presence
[59:37] of lead containing surface coatings, lead-based paints,
[59:41] polychlorinated biphenyls, PCPs-
[59:44] Mm
[59:44] ...
[59:45] in light fixture ballasts and other hazardous materials that may be in the path of
[59:49] a renovation project. So attached, I believe you
[59:53] probably have reviewed the survey reports, and-
[59:57] Let's see what's here
[59:58] ... it's structured with individual options.
[1:00:00] The city can move forward with each scope independently or combined.
[1:00:04] And
[1:00:06] also, like I said, it's been separated out, combined or
[1:00:09] together. Mr. Clark has been in contact
[1:00:14] with the city manager, whoever they will be.
[1:00:19] And he would be here tonight, but he was not able to make it.
[1:00:23] He said it was not as bad for the asbestos as they thought, but there's a
[1:00:27] lot of lead.
[1:00:29] And so there might be, I don't know, they would like to go
[1:00:33] into the, which is always covered in plastic.
[1:00:37] They would like to go in there because they need to go, and they were not able
[1:00:41] to get into that spot for this survey, but they still need
[1:00:45] to get into the B ship, A ship? Is that what?
[1:00:48] Yeah.
[1:00:48] To see what else is in there. They think there might be something also in there.
[1:00:53] Clearly, for your
[1:00:55] review, there was impact
[1:00:59] fees, but with this budget,
[1:01:02] I don't believe there's that much in the
[1:01:06] city hallUm, impact fees to pay
[1:01:10] for all of this.
[1:01:12] Purely just let the staff know your direction, what
[1:01:16] you would like to do.
[1:01:19] Okay, public comment?
[1:01:23] Online?
[1:01:25] No? Okay. Let's start on the other side then.
[1:01:30] David?
[1:01:31] For me it's like, are we in any danger right now being in this
[1:01:35] building? Will we be exposed to stuff floating here?
[1:01:40] It didn't look like it to me. He didn't say, when I talked to
[1:01:44] Mr. Clark, he didn't say immediately abandon the building.
[1:01:47] Yeah.
[1:01:47] There's just things that a lot of times, and Paul might, and Zach might be able
[1:01:51] to... A lot of times, renovation, you disturb things,
[1:01:55] and that's when there
[1:01:57] could be a contamination. These ballasts, yeah, disturb.
[1:02:00] You'd probably have something. When you
[1:02:04] chip away paint so you can paint it again, that would
[1:02:07] be when you would be exposed to lead.
[1:02:10] But as it stands now...
[1:02:13] Yeah. Pretty safe, right?
[1:02:16] Until it gets disturbed.
[1:02:17] Stay out of that security building.
[1:02:19] Yeah.
[1:02:19] Yeah. And that's,
[1:02:22] like I said, I wasn't here for when they
[1:02:25] asked for this report.
[1:02:27] I presumed what you needed to know is what's in this report.
[1:02:31] Which is,
[1:02:33] they sampled, they found out, well, how much asbestos there was, and
[1:02:37] what would contain that asbestos, what would contain the
[1:02:41] lead.
[1:02:44] Okay. Out.
[1:02:48] Jen, I would appreciate to find out what
[1:02:51] this means. As you
[1:02:53] stated, the report shows that there are hazardous materials in both
[1:02:57] buildings. Just if they can find out for us
[1:03:01] what that means for occupying and using,
[1:03:05] especially Carnegie, since we're actively in it.
[1:03:09] And then
[1:03:12] if we do find anything,
[1:03:16] how we can get on, at least for Carnegie, start moving on that.
[1:03:20] Thank you.
[1:03:23] It's like, I think if you notice in the pictures, they're mostly showing
[1:03:27] outside-
[1:03:28] Right
[1:03:28] ... for Carnegie. There really isn't anything other than, I think, the
[1:03:32] ballasts.
[1:03:33] Yeah.
[1:03:34] And that would be only if it was disturbed.
[1:03:36] But far as any danger, like I said, he didn't say anything about
[1:03:40] that.
[1:03:43] John?
[1:03:45] You know, Madam Mayor, everyone's looking at these documents.
[1:03:47] I was just trying to pull up the, what I read earlier
[1:03:51] this weekend,
[1:03:53] on this report, and one of the things that I was a little upset with was the
[1:03:57] cost of just mitigating it out of the
[1:04:01] Purity building
[1:04:03] at $131,000 just to clean up something, and we're
[1:04:07] just scratching the surface. And we have a library roof that we're going to have to
[1:04:11] deal with, 30 some odd thousand dollars worth of mitigation
[1:04:14] here. We have to weigh our
[1:04:18] finances versus our goals and wishes.
[1:04:21] And I would say at this point, we don't spend another dime on the Purity
[1:04:25] building.
[1:04:26] This could turn out to be a bigger money pit than we've already found out.
[1:04:30] I am all in favor of getting that thing out or we're...
[1:04:34] I don't know, Zach, we could bury this out by the ponds.
[1:04:38] Because I have crew that could probably do it for free.
[1:04:41] But this is not good.
[1:04:45] And this building too, I mean, I am, I mean, I
[1:04:49] guess it has the benefits to the Purity building, to say the least.
[1:04:52] We do not have an endless budget, and I'm very concerned that we
[1:04:56] start ripping the scab off of a wound.
[1:04:58] I've heard everybody's comments, I agree with them.
[1:05:01] The unfortunate part is, the missus wants a
[1:05:05] fancy car and we can only afford a bicycle, so
[1:05:09] manage my expectations. And as somebody who's responsible for the
[1:05:13] checkbook, we have to be stalwart in terms of
[1:05:16] managing our budget and being future responsible
[1:05:20] for making sure we don't go into some projects that could really, really
[1:05:24] hurt us in the long haul.
[1:05:27] Nice thing is, thanks for not letting us know that we're not sitting in a
[1:05:31] hazmat site. They tell you there's lead paint here. We know what the ballasts do.
[1:05:34] We know all that stuff. We've got rot and other damage, but we'll have to
[1:05:38] cross that bridge in the future. And we might have to, as long as we don't lick the
[1:05:42] lead paint windows, because don't forget, that's leaded glass.
[1:05:45] Yeah.
[1:05:45] We should be good.
[1:05:47] That's what I recommend.
[1:05:48] And John, real quick. Sorry.
[1:05:49] Yeah.
[1:05:51] John.
[1:05:51] Go ahead.
[1:05:52] I think for, when you read that 130,000 for
[1:05:55] mitigation, that's not for-
[1:05:57] That's not for-
[1:05:57] That's for selective destruction before assessment.
[1:06:00] So I think there'd be additional costs to that.
[1:06:03] Oh, no, 100%.
[1:06:04] Yeah.
[1:06:04] That's just-
[1:06:05] Yeah
[1:06:06] ... performance, lack of due diligence, age.
[1:06:07] That's just the beginning, the scab of the wound. That's just the beginning.
[1:06:11] But not flooring or exterior work.
[1:06:14] So, and Terry, you'd know better. On your side, did you guys have those VCT
[1:06:18] or that vinyl tile that's on your side?
[1:06:20] Yes. The-
[1:06:21] Yeah
[1:06:22] ... vinyl was there. What that 130...
[1:06:23] Well, I spoke with Will Shepherd, he called me.
[1:06:26] Mm-hmm.
[1:06:27] And the 130 was to remove the interior
[1:06:30] structure down to the studs. So as
[1:06:34] part of drawing plans for a renovation project,
[1:06:39] he would know what the structural design of that building
[1:06:42] was because there's been so many changes over the years.
[1:06:45] Right.
[1:06:45] The remediation that's required just to get rid of,
[1:06:50] it's $7,000 for 1,000-
[1:06:53] Right
[1:06:54] ... holes to look for lead paint, and it's $30,000
[1:06:58] plus to remove what they have identified in the way of
[1:07:01] asbestos and lead paint so far.
[1:07:04] Yeah.
[1:07:04] So then the cleanup is $37,000, and if we
[1:07:08] decide we want to strip walls down and start talking about renovating and turning
[1:07:11] it to city hall, that's where our $130,000 came in.
[1:07:15] Okay. Ooh.
[1:07:17] Yeah.
[1:07:19] I agree with Alex. The one building of concern would be this
[1:07:23] one. If there's some issues that we can reasonably address so that
[1:07:27] there's full confidence that this building is fully safe for the public
[1:07:31] now and in the future, we should do that.
[1:07:33] I think as far as the Purity Building goes,
[1:07:36] that's a pig in a poke that the city bought.
[1:07:39] They've been pouring money into it for years.
[1:07:41] I've watched the taxpayers' money, not necessarily ours, it was a grant, I
[1:07:45] don't know if Janet remembers, a million dollars.
[1:07:48] A million dollars was spent on pretty pictures.
[1:07:52] Eventually, what we want to do is go back to the grant process, see if there's
[1:07:56] funds available to remove that building to nothing, and
[1:08:00] what we'll have is a clean site for future development in the downtown, possibly
[1:08:03] for commercial development, possibly for municipal use.
[1:08:07] But I think that's the only real solution there, and I wouldn't spend a dime right
[1:08:11] now on the Purity Building,
[1:08:14] other than some barricades to keep people from going inside.
[1:08:17] I think that's the right course of action there.
[1:08:21] Okay.
[1:08:23] My thoughts on it,
[1:08:25] yes, we have to defer because right now we don't have any money to move forward
[1:08:28] with any of the project. But also, we
[1:08:32] have a real problem with the building, this
[1:08:37] black plastic flapping off it. We have to do something.
[1:08:41] And the way I see it, that building actually, on that end where the
[1:08:45] plastic is,
[1:08:47] it's got two-by-fours the entire length of it.
[1:08:50] Is it possible just to get up there and at least stop spending $200 to
[1:08:54] $400 every two to three weeks because paper keeps
[1:08:58] coming off, and get up there and
[1:09:01] put quarter-inch plywood to seal that off, making it safe for anyone
[1:09:06] underneath, and getting rid of the whole fix it?
[1:09:09] Because if we're doing nothing, we still own the property.
[1:09:12] We can't just keep putting plastic on.
[1:09:15] What's your thoughts, Zach?
[1:09:17] My thoughts are to remove the plastic and let it sit open,
[1:09:21] leave the wood open. The wood that is actually up there as your upright
[1:09:25] studding is actually held to the old window frames from the
[1:09:29] grocery market by tie wire.
[1:09:31] Oh.
[1:09:31] So what's happening right now is the frame, it is
[1:09:35] leaning forward, and it's trying to disconnect from the roof
[1:09:38] line and fall out into the road. So if we add more weight to
[1:09:42] that, it's definitely just going to drop off, possibly injure somebody.
[1:09:46] Okay.
[1:09:48] But the plastic solution isn't the best solution at this point.
[1:09:52] Right?
[1:09:52] Just to keep water out in the meantime, but now that it's summer and the wind's
[1:09:56] blowing and it's ripped it down to-
[1:09:57] Just take it off and leave it
[1:09:58] ... yeah, take it off, yeah, better than nothing.
[1:10:00] Because the rest of it can go
[1:10:02] Mm-hmm.
[1:10:03] And the option we have, that's not viable.
[1:10:07] Okay, let's do that. I think it's honestly-
[1:10:09] Thank you, Zach. Welcome.
[1:10:11] Appreciate your work.
[1:10:12] Welcome.
[1:10:13] Okay.
[1:10:15] And that will all have to return in a future discussion as to where
[1:10:19] we're going to with both this building and what we're going to do in the future.
[1:10:22] We can't just leave it there forever. It's pretty sad.
[1:10:25] If the city,
[1:10:27] we would probably be looking at a maintenance measure if it weren't
[1:10:31] anything else, and we don't. So that'll be another discussion for each of them.
[1:10:36] Okay, any other thoughts?
[1:10:38] Okay, as long as that administrative business, and we have
[1:10:42] the city manager, Bird Boulder, for it. Everything? That's...
[1:10:47] Now-
[1:10:48] Did we do public comment?
[1:10:50] Go ahead.
[1:10:51] Did we do public comment?
[1:10:51] She asked first, and then she asked that.
[1:10:53] Yes, sir.
[1:10:57] It was before you made all your comments.
[1:10:59] I didn't have a comment until you made all your comments.
[1:11:01] You know what? I'm the mayor, so I have to say, let's hear
[1:11:05] you, Janet, just for a minute.
[1:11:07] Okay.
[1:11:08] But keep it short, okay?
[1:11:09] Covered it with black plastic.
[1:11:10] The black plastic-
[1:11:11] Blown away in the wind.
[1:11:14] We got it down, but that ain't...
[1:11:15] I think you know what I'm going to say.
[1:11:17] Do you?
[1:11:17] Of course you know.
[1:11:18] And I'm going to let you say it anyway.
[1:11:19] I don't know what you're going to say.
[1:11:22] I bet, is it Mill Street School?
[1:11:26] I bet when they were deciding what to do with Mill Street School,
[1:11:30] they said exactly what John said and exactly what Wade said,
[1:11:34] and everybody that knows about that school regrets it.
[1:11:39] That building is a historic building.
[1:11:41] It was built in the '40s. Anything over, what is it, 50
[1:11:45] years, is a historic building. When a year ago they were
[1:11:49] talking about building a new city
[1:11:52] building
[1:11:59] for a million and a half dollars,
[1:12:03] it's absolutely ridiculous to not patch
[1:12:06] that
[1:12:08] when we can save part of history. I hate to see when the
[1:12:13] igloo things, I hate for them to go. They're part of Orland.
[1:12:18] From an outsider, see
[1:12:22] Orland completely different than you all do.
[1:12:25] These are wonderful individual things. It's a historic building.
[1:12:30] I would just be sick if you let them let it
[1:12:33] fantastic.
[1:12:34] Thank you for your thoughts.
[1:12:35] Yeah.
[1:12:35] I thought one person-
[1:12:39] Now I brought this up.
[1:12:40] This was why Paige told me all of this stuff.
[1:12:43] We have igloos.
[1:12:44] There we go.
[1:12:44] If I can make this really short. You've kind of come up with a
[1:12:48] solution, but maybe speaking to the
[1:12:52] gentleman who prepared the report, and just passing
[1:12:56] that by him and getting the okay
[1:13:00] that
[1:13:03] we won't have toxic things lying
[1:13:06] everywhere. Just an idea.
[1:13:10] Okay.
[1:13:10] Thank you.
[1:13:10] Thanks. We'll make sure we do it safely, whatever we do.
[1:13:14] Okay?Okay, and maybe there's the option out there
[1:13:18] that this council will have a discussion and decide to sell it.
[1:13:21] If we sell it, the public, the general public doesn't have the restrictions
[1:13:25] that we as a city council have. We have a much higher
[1:13:29] bar
[1:13:30] for the public being in a building like that, than if it was sold to somebody
[1:13:34] who potentially could preserve it the same way you
[1:13:38] did with the Farwood building, the same way I did with my
[1:13:41] buildings. And maybe that's
[1:13:44] a future for the building, rather than the cost of tearing that
[1:13:48] down, knowing the toxicity of it,
[1:13:52] is probably the million dollars we have.
[1:13:54] It's crazy how expensive these things are.
[1:13:57] So anyway, we'll have to bring it back to a future discussion.
[1:14:01] But for now, let's at least get rid of the black plastic.
[1:14:05] Okay? I think that's an agreement with everyone on this council.
[1:14:09] Okay, Janet, it's your turn.
[1:14:11] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:14:15] Our city planner, Lisa Loja, who works for
[1:14:19] HSN out of Redding, will be leaving at the end of
[1:14:23] June. She is moving to New Mexico. I
[1:14:26] did call her company, Bruce Grove, and I asked him,
[1:14:31] because they do not intend to renew our contract.
[1:14:35] And of course, I called to make sure there wasn't anything
[1:14:39] that was
[1:14:40] something we needed to address and might have been a concern.
[1:14:43] He says, no, they just do not have anybody on staff that would do the same
[1:14:47] thing she did, which is to work for a city to do their planning.
[1:14:52] So, I reached out to the third person on our list that we had
[1:14:56] interviewed, which is Jake Morley from Element Solutions.
[1:15:00] I had a talk with him last Thursday, so I wasn't able to put this on the agenda.
[1:15:04] He is willing to step in
[1:15:07] and do our city planning. He does work for the city of
[1:15:10] Colusa right now.
[1:15:13] And he is also a developer also. He does land
[1:15:16] development too.
[1:15:19] He said he'd be willing to work
[1:15:22] six months, a year.
[1:15:24] He would be in for two days a week. He's very
[1:15:28] accommodating for us. He kind of knows our situation.
[1:15:32] He was recommended by Mr. Rago, has worked with him.
[1:15:37] Bruce Grove, he's with HSN, the company we do have right now.
[1:15:41] He recommended him, and also our building inspector, Nick Patterson,
[1:15:45] has worked with him. So I feel that it would be a good
[1:15:49] fit, and he'd be able to work probably
[1:15:53] as soon as we can have him. But Lisa
[1:15:57] doesn't intend to be here till the end of June.
[1:16:00] So, let's see. The next thing is that I know we've all been,
[1:16:05] Jennifer's been bugging you about whether you can attend the ambulance study
[1:16:08] meeting. That has been canceled. The consultant cannot be there, so
[1:16:12] it might be the first week in June. But be prepared to see
[1:16:16] another flurry of emails that ask you if a certain date
[1:16:20] is correct. It'll probably be at Success One Center because it will
[1:16:24] be the
[1:16:25] city council for Willows, Orland, and then the board supervisors.
[1:16:30] That's the only two things that I have.
[1:16:33] And that's it.
[1:16:35] Thank you.
[1:16:38] Okay, any other--
[1:16:40] Okay, I will ask a question. Now that we have the
[1:16:44] separation with Joe Goodman, do we set that for a
[1:16:48] special meeting? We can get discussing
[1:16:51] publication and advertising to find a new study
[1:16:55] manager. How do we move forward with that?
[1:16:58] However, council would like to, we can agendize it for the next regular
[1:17:02] meeting. That was kind of the plan, but-
[1:17:05] Out of all of you, Bill, how do we need to get on it, or do we want you to-
[1:17:09] Actually, I'd like to see if we can get staff direction to reach out to Charles and
[1:17:12] just these cities, and let's get this ball rolling, and then hopefully we'll have
[1:17:16] something at least on here where you guys are attending.
[1:17:21] Before we come back to that meeting of, like, what have we gotten done?
[1:17:25] Because we're meeting in the fall.
[1:17:26] Yeah.
[1:17:28] But now it's not good. But it's not good for staff.
[1:17:31] We're good now. At the end of the month, we're going to have three people doing
[1:17:35] five people's jobs. Very concerned about all that.
[1:17:37] So we'll get all the way.
[1:17:42] So that's it, the direction of the staff? Or can we even do that?
[1:17:45] Is it something-
[1:17:46] No, but I think that was kind of the plan.
[1:17:48] So yeah.
[1:17:49] Let me get on to it.
[1:17:51] Yeah.
[1:17:53] All right, so verbal reports.
[1:17:55] Council?
[1:17:57] No.
[1:17:59] No? John?
[1:18:01] Nothing bad about the
[1:18:05] community. Love the place. Looking forward to good weather.
[1:18:07] And whoever brought the wind this evening, Broadway
[1:18:11] Lane, boy. Why you even bother going 10 with you?
[1:18:14] Only 12 calls Saturday. Geez.
[1:18:18] It's gone tomorrow.
[1:18:22] Just thank you. Glad to be here for my first full meeting.
[1:18:25] I heard these meetings went really long, but I think that's a pretty good time.
[1:18:28] We're going to get out of here, so keep it up.
[1:18:30] Plan.
[1:18:31] Good management.
[1:18:32] And work for a long time, yeah. Yeah, and have it for another walk.
[1:18:35] Yeah.
[1:18:36] Okay, I have a whole list of things now that, and the city that I've
[1:18:40] been with her was very happy to see that in that sanctuary
[1:18:45] gala was well attended and very well done up.
[1:18:49] And thank you, Valerie, for what you do.
[1:18:52] The Arts Commission, again, thank you for all you do.
[1:18:56] I attended their special meeting concerning what we'll talk about
[1:19:00] tonight. LACTO is
[1:19:03] meeting and regularly talking. Janet is the
[1:19:06] LACTO administrator or-
[1:19:09] Executive officer
[1:19:10] ... executive officer.
[1:19:11] Mm-hmm.
[1:19:12] And so we'll be having more discussions with them concerning our west side
[1:19:15] annexation soon.
[1:19:18] The Library Commission, very exciting, Jody, what you're doing
[1:19:22] with the schools, that whole report of that
[1:19:24] MOUTo bring our students together with our library.
[1:19:28] Orland's probably one of the only ones in the north state doing such
[1:19:32] an aggressive and well-thought-out plan
[1:19:36] to get our kids, every kid in school, involved with our
[1:19:39] library. Unbelievable how many kids our library
[1:19:43] reaches in the many ways. And one of the things coming up is your
[1:19:47] wildlife, what is it called?
[1:19:48] Wild Things.
[1:19:49] And when is that?
[1:19:51] June 15th, I think.
[1:19:53] Okay. And it's going to come fast and furious.
[1:19:55] So anybody that wants to really see a cool program the
[1:19:59] library puts together, it's called Wild Things, and they bring all of these wild
[1:20:03] animals right out here in the park, and hundreds,
[1:20:07] well, it was probably over 100 last year, kids and people get to come and see
[1:20:11] the animals, with affection, learn about the animals, as well
[1:20:15] as the music program that you have coming on, too, which is, when
[1:20:19] does that begin, Paul?
[1:20:21] We're working on... We've got the music garden instruments
[1:20:24] ordered,
[1:20:25] PVA for when we'll have that kind of thing.
[1:20:28] And this is stations around the park where kids can go
[1:20:31] around and-
[1:20:33] It'll be on the west side of the library.
[1:20:35] Okay.
[1:20:35] That'll be-
[1:20:36] Where they can go and hear and feel and see musical
[1:20:39] instruments. It's a permanent exhibit.
[1:20:41] Yeah.
[1:20:42] So that was pretty cool, too, with the animal.
[1:20:44] And Joey got grants, I think, for most of this.
[1:20:48] Okay.
[1:20:48] Or donations. I know the wildlife was donations.
[1:20:53] Fair parade, we did the judging. John,
[1:20:56] Casey, at the school.
[1:20:59] They have a new one. Miss Martha doesn't show up.
[1:21:03] No?
[1:21:03] Never heard. I never heard of it.
[1:21:04] I don't know. There was some pretty fun ones out there.
[1:21:08] Great.
[1:21:08] I also went there and was the judge for their forestry exhibit.
[1:21:11] A lot of really young kids, or high school kids, really, into forestry, and
[1:21:15] that's really a dying
[1:21:17] art. It was cool to see so many kids involved.
[1:21:20] And then Keller Williams, for those of you who do not know,
[1:21:23] Keller Williams Realty,
[1:21:26] which is Becky Jones, right?
[1:21:30] Yeah.
[1:21:30] Yeah. Becky Jones got the Keller Williams folks, a group of
[1:21:34] them, to go out and do public service.
[1:21:37] There were probably, I think she said 40-some, almost
[1:21:41] 50 of them, and they came and painted our park benches, our park
[1:21:45] drinking fountain, the side of the library building.
[1:21:48] All of them came one morning, beautiful day that it was.
[1:21:52] They were done by 2:00, and they all came over and had an
[1:21:56] after party. And boy, those people know how to party.
[1:21:59] So that was a lot of fun with all of them.
[1:22:01] We thank them very much for the effort that they put in to making Orland look
[1:22:05] good.
[1:22:07] High school had a civic engagement program last night,
[1:22:11] and Alex, Tracy, and John were at that,
[1:22:15] where they actually have a program that was initially
[1:22:18] state-funded and now is just funded by their own
[1:22:22] activity, their high school, where kids get together in
[1:22:26] groups. They come up with what they see as a need in their community.
[1:22:30] They spend the entire year during their senior year planning for it, going
[1:22:34] out, reaching out to our community.
[1:22:35] One of them was for West Haven,
[1:22:38] went and spent time with older adults and learned and heard
[1:22:42] and
[1:22:43] touched their lives and were touched by the older adults.
[1:22:47] We also had, it was called, what was the swim program?
[1:22:50] Civic Engagement.
[1:22:51] No, what was the swim pro-
[1:22:52] Oh, swim, I'm sorry, Whale Tails. Sorry.
[1:22:54] Whale Tails, which is, the Red Cross puts together, and it is to
[1:22:58] teach kids how to swim. And they went out to third grade classrooms throughout
[1:23:02] our city to talk to kids about water
[1:23:06] safety and how to stay alive
[1:23:09] by staying out of the water a lot of the times, or what to do if you find yourself
[1:23:13] in the water. So these kids were amazing.
[1:23:15] They put all these programs together and done a whole PowerPoint.
[1:23:18] It was a really neat thing last night.
[1:23:21] And the Orland, last one I have here is the Orland Women's Club
[1:23:25] has their lunch tomorrow. And they, of course, all
[1:23:29] of you know, are a very big part of our community as well.
[1:23:32] And we thank them all for what they do.
[1:23:34] I know some of you in the audience are part of that group, so we'll see you.
[1:23:38] Okay, and that's the end of it for me.
[1:23:40] And we'll have that last gavel thing during the-