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Our city manager is out sick, 
so our prayers are with her. Um,  

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but we do have assistant city manager Claire 
Whitley, assistant city manager Shawn Finley,  

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uh, city attorney Randy Hayes, and to my far left 
and your far right, we have our great chiefs, uh,  

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Jesse Godfrey, Fire Chief Howard Bailey, 
and I am Mayor Jason Leslie. Thank you all  

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for being here tonight. At this time, 
I'd like to call up Pastor George Ward  

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uh to come up for the uh invocation 
followed by the pledge of allegiance.

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Shall we pray? Our heavenly father and our 
God, we're both thankful and grateful for  

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your benevolence, your love, your grace, your 
protection, and your provision for each of us.  

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We stop to thank you for life, for family, 
for love, and for community. We thank you  

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for the opportunities and the mandate 
that you've given our Ormond Beach city  

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commissioners and how you have called them to 
build community of integrity, trust, and love.  

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We ask your blessings on our city officials who 
have been called to lead the community in which we  

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leave, live, and to interact, to work, to serve, 
and play. Thank you, God, for our honorable mayor,  

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Jason Leslie. For our city commissioner, zone 
one, Lori Tolland, zone two, Travis Sargent,  

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zone three, Kristin Deaton, and zone four, 
Harold Briley. Thank you for our city manager  

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Joyce Shanahan and the assistant Shawn Finley and 
Claire Whitley. We bless our police chief Robert,  

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affectionately called Jesse Godfrey and our city 
attorney Randy Hayes. We pray for each staff team  

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member official department and the boards that 
serve our community. We ask for your wisdom, your  

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direction, your guidance as they strategically 
labor to build a better, a greater, and a stronger  

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Ormond Beach. We pray for understanding and 
clarity as resolutions and as proclamations  

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are presented on tonight. Thank you, oh God, for 
this beautiful weather in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United 
States of America and to the republic for which  

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it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, 
with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.  

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You all be seated. Pastor George, thank 
you for coming out. It was good seeing you.

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Okay, we're going to move on to presentations 
and proclamation section of the agenda. Today  

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we have one proclamation and I'd 
like to call up Sergeant Ray Llanes.

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Sergeant, it's good to see you, too. First, we 
thank you for being here. Thank you for everything  

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you do. Before I present this proclamation, 
don't worry, I'm not contagious. Uh, if before  

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I present this proclamation, is there anything 
you'd like to say? No, just thank you for the  

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opportunity to attend this course. It's a it was a 
wonderful course and it just helped me, you know,  

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understand how to do my job just a little bit 
better and serve this community. And thank you.  

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Thank you. So, at this time, I'll have you 
hold up the the plaque here and I'll read  

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the proclamation. Like I said, excuse me everyone 
for my voice tonight. Um, I'm not contagious, just  

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something that the doctor couldn't figure out. Uh 
whereas Sergeant Ramon uh Llanes, I'm sorry, I'm  

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trying to get my thing here, began his career with 
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2017. And whereas Sergeant uh Yiannis recently 
graduated from the University of Louisville  

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Southern Police Institute's 102nd Command Officer 
Development Course held in Orlando, Florida.  

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This five-month intensive program compromising of 
two weeks intervals focuses on the development of  

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leadership and professional skills. And whereas 
Sergeant Llanes brings a wealth of experience from  

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his 22-year tenure with the Miami-Dade Police 
Department, his background includes roles as  

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police officer, crime suppression, auto theft task 
force, economic crimes, and special victims unit,  

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corporal and sergeant. And whereas being the 
supervisor of the criminal investigations unit,  

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Sergeant Llanes leads his team with pride and 
dedication, he also serves as the vice president  

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for the police collective bargaining unit. And 
whereas Sergeant Llanes has demonstrated his  

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dedication to the law enforcement profession, 
being away from home and family to enhance his  

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knowledge, skills, and abilities, his exceptional 
work ethic and unwavering commitment to duty make  

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him an accomplished and valuable member of 
the police department, city, and community.  

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Now therefore, I, Jason Leslie, mayor 
of the city of Ormond Beach, Florida,  

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do hereby proclaim February 3rd, 2026 as a day to 
recognize Sergeant Ramon Llanes. Congratulations.

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Uh, okay. Yep. Bring everybody up. 
Oh, who's that? Oh, wow. Hello, wife.

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on.

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Come on.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay, great. We're going to move on here as soon 
as uh Captain Roos is doing doing his job here.  

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doing good. A damn good job of it. You're doing 
good. We love you, Captain. Okay. At this time,  

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we'll hear from those of you who have signed a 
card to speak about any item which is not on the  

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printed agenda for this meeting or any items on 
the consent agenda. Each person be given a total  

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of three minutes. As a reminder, please be sure to 
state your name and address and speak clearly into  

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the microphone as it helps us uh do any kind of 
follow-ups that we might have to do with you later  

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on. So, at this point we have uh we have Patricia 
Franzem. Patricia. Oh, there you are, Patricia.

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I hope my voice doesn't go out. I'm having 
problems. Oh boy. Okay. Good evening. My name  

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is Patricia Franzem and I am representing the Bear 
Creek Village community located in Ormond Beach.  

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I am submitting for public record a petition that 
has been signed by 190 Bear Creek residents. This  

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petition is in regards to the Riverbend Golf 
Course located on Airport Road. We would like  

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this beautiful piece of property to become usable 
outdoor space. Please know I do not claim to be an  

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architect or financial planner. I understand 
that's your job. But what I am is a person  

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who loves and appreciates the outdoors. Ormond 
Beach has the amazing ocean for all to enjoy.  

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We have parks and we have playgrounds. However, 
when we go to these places, we are just about  

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always surrounded by the noise of traffic. 
We have plenty of stores, medical buildings,  

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and apartment complexes. A great deal of time and 
money has been put into new roads and sidewalks  

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along A1A. We live in a time where many talk about 
the importance of protecting the environment and  

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concerns about children not spending enough 
time outdoors and away from screens and how  

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many seniors become depressed by sitting indoors 
watching TV. You have an opportunity to turn  

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Riverbend into a place where young and old alike 
can enjoy being outdoors. You have the opportunity  

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to really help the people of Ormond Beach. Isn't 
that why you were elected to this commission to  

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serve and help the residents of Ormond Beach? Take 
a look at the land and try to see walking trails,  

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picnic areas, a small restaurant, maybe a 9-hole 
golf course. Riverbend is off of Airport Road, but  

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the property is tucked away from the street noise. 
This area of Ormond Beach needs and wants outdoor  

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recreational space. Why not take this opportunity 
and give the residents of Orman Beach something  

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that would be used and greatly appreciated. Thank 
you very much for your time. Thank you, Patricia.

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Next up, we have Debbie Forrester. Debbie, there 
you are in that really cool looking uniform.

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Debbie Kruk Forrester, Ormond Beach, founder and 
commander of Ormond Strong, a nonprofit benefiting  

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military veterans, first responders, many are 
both, and um their families and patriots within  

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the community. Um you know our history. We started 
a vigil morning bridgewalk over the Grand Bridge  

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in 2015 when my husband and 200 others from the 
first of 265th ADA deployed for a one-year mission  

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to Afghanistan. March uh 2016 all returned home 
safe. We had over a thousand people at the Daytona  

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Beach airport. Welcome them home. We continue 
to walk every day raising awareness and support  

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for all who have served our great country and 
communities. With that said, and this being the  

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semi quincentennial, a historic m milestone in our 
country, Ormond Strong Bridgewalks are celebrating  

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our nation's 205th birthday, raising awareness and 
support for all who sacrificed their time. their  

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strength, their ambition, their health, and their 
lives on this earth over the past 250 years so  

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that we can enjoy the freedoms we have today. Why 
am I wearing the uniform, you ask? No, Long John  

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Silvers is not my side hustle. I'm wearing it to 
honor a great patriot, uh, the only female patriot  

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that served hands-on the Revolutionary War, 
Deborah Sampson. Um, she's from Massachusetts. She  

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disguised herself as a um man by cutting her hair 
um bounding her bosoms. Can I say that here? Yeah,  

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I guess so. And um she took she started in uh 
1782. She uh as a war raged on, she disguised  

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herself as Robert Shortlift and joined the fourth 
Massachusetts re regiment. Um, she then went on to  

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serve in the Continental Army under uh, General 
George Washington. She took uh, two musket balls  

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in the left thigh for America. Uh, she didn't want 
to have her gender um, they didn't she didn't want  

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anybody to know she was a female. So, she took her 
pocket knife, took the uh, one musket ball out and  

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sewed herself back up. But, um, after that, yes. 
And I'll do it any day for America. Uh yeah, but  

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then uh when she was serving in Pennsylvania, a 
fever broke out and the gig was up. So that's why  

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I'm wearing the uniform. But it was Paul Revere 
that got her her full uh honorable discharge and  

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her pension. So um I'm here to let you know any 
stories like this you want to hear. Uh we have the  

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veterans museum that our group Ormond Strong paid 
the first 20 years rent for the that it started  

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over there that um be between those doors. I don't 
know if you know the history of it, the Veterans  

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Museum, but it moved on to um Daytona Beach and 
um we make sure it continues. We ask you to come  

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out and support the Veterans Museum dur during 
this historic time. Thank you. Ormond Strong Out.

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So, our mayor had to excuse himself 
for a moment. He asked me if I would  

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continue with the cards. Is that okay? 
Okay. So, the next up is Derek Weider.

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May I have help here? Is that okay?

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Should we move on? You're the chair. It's up to 
you. I'm I'm sorry. You You're the chairperson,  

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so it's up to That would be fine. I'll 
put you to the end of the pile and we'll  

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we'll move on to the next person. 
Um next up is Suzanne Scheiber.

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Good evening, Commission. if you could just 
tell the mayor what I said later maybe in  

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closing comments. Um Suzanne Scheiber dream green 
Volusia there's been discussion at the Volusia  

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County Council meetings about Volusia forever 
specifically concerning perpetuity and why we  

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have partners. In the year 2020 an impressive 
75.6% of voters express strong support for the  

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land conservation program, a percentage that 
exceeds the approval ratings of any current  

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county council elected official and likely any 
of those in the past or in the future. In 2000,  

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the initiative rate received 61.6% which is was 
still very high back then. With percentages this  

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high, a reasonable assumption would be that many 
of the people in the chamber tonight voted to  

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tax themselves in support of land conservation. 
The title Volusia forever suggests it represents  

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forever or permanent. It is a good time to note 
that it is a willing seller program providing land  

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owners with options. There is a 25-year precedent 
in Volusia County of never selling land acquired  

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through the program, coupled with a proven track 
record of establishing strong partnerships, always  

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with county attorneys participating in these 
discussions. The benefits of land conservation are  

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many. Improved water quality, flood prevention, 
biodiversity, recreational opportunities, cultural  

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preservation, agriculture, and even more. Volusia 
County has been a leader in land conservation, as  

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I said, for 25 years. Tonight, we're requesting a 
consensus letter to be sent to the Volusia County  

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Council supporting perpetuity and partnerships for 
the Volusia Forever program. The city has been a  

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partner in this program, so it should be easy 
to reinstate your support. Thank you for your  

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time. Thank you, Suzanne. Could I say something 
real quick? Deputy mayor, can I speak real quick?  

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Sure. Do we want to speak about what she just um 
We can either do that now or we could wait till  

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the end of the meeting. Um what would you like 
to do? I mean, if we're in consensus, I mean,  

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I wouldn't mind giving a letter of support for 
volusia forever if anybody else is on board with  

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that. Everybody else agreed that that's something 
you want to do. I'm good with that as well.

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My thing's not working. I agree as well. 
So, can we direct staff to write a letter  

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um in support of Volusia Forever and Echo and its 
partners? Correct. And its partners. Yes. Yes. Um  

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on behalf of the commission and would you like 
that to come back to you or we can just send you  

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a copy? You can just send it then. Okay. Great. 
Oh, I should be able to direct that to you. Sorry.  

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Is everybody okay with staff to just send it or do 
we need to see it? I'm fine with staff sending it.  

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I don't need to see it. Great. Thank you. Thank 
you so much, Claire. appreciate that and thank you  

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Suzanne for bringing that to our attention. 
All right, next up will be David Randall.

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Good evening. My name is David Randall. 
I live at 99 Chrysanthemum here in Ormond  

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Beach. I'm also a captain with the 
Ormond Beach Fire Department and  

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I'm president of the Ormond Beach 
Professionals Firefighters Union.  

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This city is my life. The men and women I serve 
with and the community that I serve are my life.  

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Um, I say this because I want you to understand 
how seriously I take my responsibilities as both  

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union president and a captain with the Ormond 
beach fire department, which I know you all do.  

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Um, I stand here tonight asking for your support 
in passing our collective bargaining agreement.  

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The proposed contract before you represents many 
years of hard work, lots of hours in negotiations.  

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Um, I'd like to thank Claire Whitley and Samantha 
Potts for all their uh, patience and hard work  

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throughout the negotiation process. I'd also like 
to thank you, the commission, um, for working with  

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us and willingness to meet and listen to what we 
have and what's important to our members. I ask  

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that you pass the contract tonight as proposed 
and I hope you have a great night. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Randall. 
And next up is Marsha Blew.

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You'll be happy to know I have a very short one. 
Just a couple of questions. Marsha Blew, Ormond  

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Beach. Good evening, commissioners and mayor. 
The following is in reference to Ormond Beach  

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Municipal Airport. Um, if the runway extension 
happens, will the airport design group runway  

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remain a B2? Will the larger jets be flying in and 
out a QDO/OMN that are larger than a B2? Below is  

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my email address for someone to please send me the 
answers. Thank you for your time and good night.

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Thank you very much. And we have one last 
card, one last card. It's Derek Weader. Are  

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we moving on to that now or are we waiting 
for the mayor to return? Returning. Um,  

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Madam Chair, so we allocate 30 minutes for 
audience remarks. Uh and then you proceed to  

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um the items of business. So if meter Mr. Weader 
would like to speak now, that's fine. If not,  

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then we just close it out and go to city business. 
All right. Mr. Weader, would you like to speak?

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Derek Weader, Ormond Beach. Good evening, 
Mr. Mayor, commissioners, and city manager.  

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My name is Derek. I'm here tonight because I 
believe deeply in transparency, accountability,  

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and the constitutional rights of every resident 
in the city. I'm speaking publicly because private  

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avenues have failed and because recent actions by 
the mayor and individuals closely associated with  

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him have crossed serious legal and ethical lines. 
I want to be very clear. I don't seek conflict. I  

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seek accountability. Over the past several months, 
I've been subjected to repeated harassment,  

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intimidation, and retaliation after exercising 
my First Amendment right to speak out on matters  

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of public concern. That alone is troubling. What 
is more troubling is that these actions appear to  

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involve misuse of authority and coordination 
with private individuals. Specifically,  

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I'm putting the city on notice tonight of 
the following concerns. First, the unlawful  

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disclosure of my private medical information to 
third parties. Medical information is protected.  

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It is not political amu am ammunition. It is not 
gossip. The mayor disseminating it without consent  

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is only not only unethical, but it constitutes 
violation of state and federal law. Second,  

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the monitoring and recording of private phone 
calls without consent by the mayor and family  

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members to be used to intimidate and threaten to 
use in family proceedings. Florida is a two-party  

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consent state. Recording a call without all 
parties knowledge and agreement is illegal.  

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No elected official and no family member of 
an elected official is above that law. Third,  

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retaliation and harassment directed not just at 
me but at my family. after I exercise protected  

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speech. That is unacceptable in a free society and 
it has a chilling effect on every resident who may  

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want to speak out here tonight. Let me be clear. 
Public office does not grant immunity. Power does  

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not excuse misconduct and criticis criticism of 
government is not harassment. It's democracy.  

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I'm asking this commission to take these concerns 
seriously to ensure that no city resources,  

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authority or influence are being used to 
intimidate citizens and to reaffirm that this city  

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respects the constitution is sworn to uphold. I am 
documenting this record. I am preserving my rights  

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and I'm asking for accountability, not special 
treatment. Thank you for your time. All right.

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All right. So that ends the comments 
and I don't have the agenda in front  

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of me. I'll have to move to the middle seat.

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I have my agenda right here. Right here. Get 
in here, darling. There is an annotated agenda.

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All right, guys. You don't get me in the middle  

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seat. Looks like our mayor's 
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Where we at here?

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I'm sorry. Uh, where are we at? Where are we 
at? We just finished public comments. Okay. So,  

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we're on the consent. We didn't We didn't vote on 
the consent yet. We're just at number six. Number  

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six. Okay. Okay. So, the approval of the minutes. 
Okay. Give me a second here. Um, okay. The minutes  

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for the January 20, 2026 city commission meeting 
have been sent to the commission for review and  

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posted to the city's website. Does anyone have 
any corrections or changes at this time? Move  

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approval. Second. Second. Second. Okay. Any 
other discussion? Seeing none, all those in  

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favor by saying I. I. I. Okay. The eyes have it. 
Uh, minutes approved. I move on to consent. Um,  

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items on the consent agenda are deemed routine and 
non-controversial. The action proposed is stated  

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for each item. Unless the city commission 
removes an item from the consent agenda,  

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no discussion on individual items will occur 
and a single motion will approve all items.  

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Does any member of the commission wish to pull 
anything from the consent agenda at this time?  

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I move to um move consent agenda item 7G as 
in go. Okay. So, is there any other ones?  

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Move approval absent 7G. Second. Okay. Uh, any 
discussion? No. Seeing none. Okay. City clerk,  

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please call the vote. Commissioner Tolland, yes. 
Commissioner. Sargent. Oh, it's minus G. May.  

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Yes. Yes. Commissioner Deaton? Yes. Commissioner 
Briley? Yes. Mayor Leslie? Yes. Uh, city clerk,  

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could you please read 7G? disposition item titled 
RFP employee benefits broker of record services.

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Okay. Is there a motion for approval? 
Move approval. Harold. Second. Okay.  

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Discussion. So I removed um G because 
uh potentially could have a son that  

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will be bidding on the RFPs being sent 
out. Okay. Uh, Commissioner Sargent,  

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wait. And I and I I'm sorry. And I filed form FB 
8B. Okay. With um our city clerk, Commissioner  

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Sargent. Thank you. I work for uh an agency 
that could participate in the bid. Therefore,  

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I will be removing myself from sending this out 
to bid and I have my form 8B to give to the city  

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clerk. Thank you. Okay. Easy enough. Any other 
discussion from the commissioners? Seeing none,  

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we have a motion and second on the floor. City 
clerk, please call the vote. Commissioner Sargent,

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abstain. Commissioner Deaton, yes. Commissioner 
Briley, yes. Commissioner Tolland, abstain. Mayor  

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Leslie, yes. Do any of the commissioners wish 
to comment any of the consent agenda item items  

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at this time? No. Okay, we're going to move 
on then. Okay. Uh, I will now open the public  

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hearings. City clerk, please read the legal title 
8A, Ordinance number 2026-01. Ordinance number  

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2026-01, an ordinance authorizing the execution 
and issuance of a development order for a planned  

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business development to be located at 890 North US 
Highway 1 to be known as the Tomoka Commerce Park,  

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authorizing the development of the property 
for a mixture of commercial, warehouse,  

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and light industrial uses, establishing conditions 
and expirations of approval, and setting forth an  

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effective date. This is the second reading of 
ordinance number 2026-01 read by title only.  

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Move approval. Second. Okay. Um, do we need 
to Steven Spraker to come up and discuss about  

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the item again? No. Okay. I do have two cards 
here for public comments. So, I will call out  

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those speakers right now. Uh, we have uh Patrick 
Opalewski and on deck is Jim Cameron. Jim. Okay.  

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Uh Patrick O Patrick Opalewski, 647 North 
Beach Street. Uh Mr. Mayor, city commissioners,  

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I'm here to speak in support of the project. 
Um the small bay industrial product again is  

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u you know is something that we need here. It's 
in demand. Uh not a lot of availability of it.  

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Uh this is a great project and exciting 
from an economic development standpoint.  

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um you know, entrepreneurs will start 
small businesses and and these kind of  

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projects and they'll grow into um um 
employers right here in the city and  

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um you provide opportunity for long-term jobs. Uh 
I speak in support of the project. I respectfully  

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ask for your support of the project. Thank you 
very much. Thank you, Patrick. Jim Cameron.

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Good evening. I'm Jim Cameron, Jim Cameron 
Consulting, 39 Laurel Oak Circle here in  

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Ormond. But uh pretty much to reiterate what I'd 
said at your previous commission meeting though  

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about this project. It's going to be a quality 
project with quality type of businesses here,  

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retail and professional though. And that said, 
it's it's something that I again I've worked  

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quite a bit and I've seen their work at Parker 
Mynchenberg and Associates and they've gone over  

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this area there quite a bit though and I think 
you're going to have like I say something that's  

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a high and dry type of project but more so again 
uh been following Tallahassee and I talking with  

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them today and those bills are moving up 
there as it relates to property tax relief  

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for homesteads for homesteads. And that's going 
to affect y'all here at the city level because  

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you take out that homestead property or if you 
lower it somehow, you're going to have that much  

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more of a need for nonhomesteaded commercial type 
business projects though like this is. So again,  

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I support the project, Mr. Mayor. Thank 
Thank you, Jim. Uh, Commissioner Briley,  

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it's my apologies. I would like to hear Mr. 
Spraker's uh uh Sure. Let's do it. I'd like  

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to hear from Mr. Spraker on this. I'd like to hear 
his presentation. Yeah, that's right. I was not at  

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the last meeting. That's right. You should have 
said something. I forgot about that. You know,  

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I'm not 100% tonight. So, you know, give me a 
little break there. Steven, how are you? I'm doing  

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great. Good evening. Steven Spraker, planning 
director with city. So, the property is located  

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890 uh North US Highway 1 shown on the screen. 
It's about US Highway 1 and the railroad tracks.

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The project has a uh general commercial land use 
and a planned business development zoning. There  

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were two previous approvals uh both of which 
expired. The 2007 approval was known as a root  

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commerce park. Similar site design as what 
is being presented tonight. Um although the  

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industrial in the back is a little bit different 
with the site design today. The project um has an  

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expired development order. There are two choices. 
is either to go back to the B8 zoning district  

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which would allow the permitted and conditional 
uses or to seek the plan business development  

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amendment which is before you tonight. There is 
a separate preliminary plat preliminary plat are  

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now approved by the site plan review committee 
based on state law. Um there are four proposed  

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lots. Lots one and two for commercial. Lots three 
and four would be for warehouse light industrial  

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uses. This is the site plan that was included in 
your packet. Uh the total project is 12.48 acres.  

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There is a wetland on the southeast corner that 
is being preserved. The project has their St.  

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John's River Water Management District permit and 
they are exceeding their natural preservation at  

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20% where the land development code requires 15%. 
There are a total of 11 buildings totaling 110,000  

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square ft. Lots one and two are just over 9,800 
ft. Those are commercial along the front edge  

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of US1. Lots three and four are on the rear site 
and those are intended to be a warehouse inside  

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RV boat storage and light industrial uses. The uh 
development order that's included in your packet  

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has a list of uses. Lots one and two are shown 
on my left. Those are commercial uses. Lots three  

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and four are shown on uh my right. Um so if it's 
not on that list, it's not allowed in that that  

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development. The project has been reviewed by the 
Florida Department of Transportation. There was a  

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traffic impact analysis. There are improvements 
that are required on US Highway 1. The center  

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drive aisle would be the entrance into the 
project. The drive aisle on the north would be the  

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exit. Um there are three a total of three wetlands 
on the property. Uh wetland A is being preserved.  

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It's just over 1.2 acres. wetlands B and C which 
are uh each less than half an acre are being  

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impacted and incorporated into the storm water 
system. The project um has two flood zones. Flood  

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zone A is basically where the wetlands are. The 
rest of the site is in zone X which is not in the  

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special flood hazard area. The two deviations that 
are being sought through the project are four uh  

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foundation plantings along where the warehouses bu 
buildings are. those are being uh replanted within  

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the site. And then to delete the interior drive um 
interior lot buffers where the drive aisle exist  

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and that is a a deviation that's been approved on 
previous projects. There is one historic tree that  

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is being uh proposed to to be removed. There is an 
analysis from uh Mr. Don Spence who uh basically  

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said the tree is in in decline is tree number 
five on that site plan. There are three uh trees,  

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three historic oaks that are being preserved 
on the project. Property has gone through uh  

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through site plan. There was neighborhood meeting 
site plan review committee determination. It was  

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recommended for approval by planning board. 
On the first meeting commission, there was a  

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recommendation for approval. Tonight is the final 
reading before the commission. The planning board  

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did recommend approval of the project including u 
the uses the deviations subject to the resolution  

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of all outstanding SPRC comments. Commissioner 
Briley, you have any questions? Yes, sir. Um  

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Steven, the TIA, I I don't think the uses that 
are proposed here are super intensive. So, I guess  

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my question is the TI didn't show that they were 
going to have to um install any like a right turn  

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lane on US1 for for southbound for the project. 
They are doing a deceleration and they're doing  

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a uh birectional median. So, they knew about the 
bidirectional median. So, th those are the limits.  

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Um they may have a final proportionate fair share 
contribution that they required to meet. Um, but  

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those are the improvements that were required as 
part of the traffic study. Thank you. Absolutely.  

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Anyone have any other questions for Steven? No. 
Thank you, Steven. Um, do you want the applicant  

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to come up and speak because we had the applicant 
last night? Is the applicant here? Oh, yes.  

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Okay. Good evening. Steve Buzzwell with Parker 
Mynchenberg and Associates. Uh, again, thank you,  

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Steven, for the report. Um, really just here to 
answer any questions you have. Any questions for  

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the applicant? No. Thank you for being here. 
Appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, we have a a  

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motion. We have a second for approval. Uh any 
discussion you guys like to uh go around and talk  

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about? Commissioner Sargent? Yes. I spoke with a 
resident today and she was unable to attend and  

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asked if I would read her email that she sent to I 
believe everyone received it from a Robin Magleora  

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and I I just told her I would read it. So, please 
bear with me. Commissioner Sargent, I apologize  

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for sending screenshots attached, but it is uh a 
lot of information. Please accept this as a formal  

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and for the record request to table the second 
vote for this project to a for a future date  

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for reasons stated in the information. It is my 
opinion and with all due respect to Mr. Vanacore,  

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that more research is needed to prove the need 
for this facility. Please confirm receipt of this  

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email in regards Robin Magleora which I forwarded 
this email and I'll read the the screenshots but  

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I did forward this to the city clerk to include 
in the record. It just says first reading passed  

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the city commission meeting on 1 20 2026. The 
vote was 4-0 with commissioner Bradley absent.  

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The second final reading for this bill will be 
on 23 2026 at commission meeting 700 p.m. 23  

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Tuesday 22 South Beach Street. One of the reasons 
stated by the commission for approval was lack of  

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public opposition to the build. They stated that 
they did not receive emails, phone calls to of  

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opposition. Some did not see the social media post 
and comments. Commissioner Sargent question. Where  

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is the proof that Ormond Beach does not need more 
storage units built? Storage unit information. At  

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65 to 75% occupancy, a facility will break even, 
covering operating expenses and debits services.  

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To be profitable, they must be must have 85% 
to 95% occupancy. They will raise rates on  

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current units rented to make up for the loss of 
occupancy. A well-maintained facility will run  

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a 90% occupancy with profit margins ranging from 
30 to 40%. Ormond Beach storage unit information.  

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I contacted, now mind you, this is from the 
resident, not me myself. I contacted the storage  

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units in Ormond Beach to get their statistics 
for occupancy. I was unable to get information  

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from Mr. Vanacore's builds. I was advised that 
they could not give me that information. I was  

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given a corporate phone number to contact. I left 
a voicemail for a call back and never received one  

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to date. Further attempts to call sent me to an 
automated phone system. The system disconnected  

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when I chose an option. The facility that I 
contacted are running at 40 to 85% occupancy. Most  

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are are below 80% with two possibly running at 80 
to 81% and one at 75 to 85%. Small local boat/RV  

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storage facilities that had 90 to 100% occupancy 
at one time are running within approximately 40%  

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occup occupancy. The same for small local storage 
facilities. Um, and I think I'll I'll leave it for  

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there. And this resident asked if um at the end 
of it just said I am going to request that the  

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commission table this vote to a future date. This 
will allow the commissioners to do their homework  

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to regarding the need for their facilities. Um so 
that is the end that I will read. Um, I don't know  

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if any commissioners need to table this to do more 
homework, but I asked and I read the email and I  

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will say that since we've been here, I received 
two emails. It looks like one that is in strong  

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support, another one that is not for that is 
opposing it. Um, and with that, I'll hold my  

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comments. I'll let others speak and then I'll come 
back. Mr. Mayor, sure. Commissioner Deaton, can I  

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ask a question of the applicant? Oh, sorry. After 
hearing that email. Yeah. Is this going to be a  

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traditional storage facility? As my I understand 
it, it's uh you know, we're doing the use and it's  

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going to be it has the opportunity to be offices 
with a warehouse um component to it where small  

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businesses can use it. um they're going to be um 
basically accessed um from both the north and the  

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south portion of it. So to my knowledge, they're 
not the typical mini storage warehouse um that you  

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get from other facilities. These are more of the 
outdoor business type. So this is different from  

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his other storage facilities. Okay, that was my 
question. Thank you. Sure, Commissioner Briley.

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what you're talking about. I was just going to 
say you may want to stay up there for just a  

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second. Sorry. I was looking that direction there. 
I because I do have a I just want a clarification  

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too. I heard on the first reading that the and 
I just want you to confirm for me that the the  

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frontage buildings will be more like stores and 
businesses and things like that that are along  

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US1. Correct. There are commercial/retail and 
then and there's some um storage. The industrial  

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portion is back railroad tracks in in the rear 
of the property. And that's to aimed at small  

360
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:43,680
businesses, right? To promote small businesses 
and so trucks and build um work vehicles would  

361
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,320
not be parked in your driveway. Correct. 
Those with logos and that may have issues  

362
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:54,240
with their homeowners association have a place to 
go where they can park their vehicles, store their  

363
00:42:54,240 --> 00:43:00,400
um equipment and so forth. have a small office 
to manage their business. And I'm not sure if  

364
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:06,640
you all have ever received any emails, but I know 
I have received multiple complaints from residents  

365
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:12,560
um that have a neighbor that has their work truck 
or multiple work trucks in their driveway. So,  

366
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:20,240
I think this is good and that it anticipates or 
bringing those trucks into um a proper place. So,  

367
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:25,440
thank you. No more questions from me. 
Sure, Commissioner Briley. Thank you,  

368
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,840
Steven. I don't have anything for you. So, 
okay. Thank you. Any more questions for the  

369
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,080
applicants? This No, no more questions for the 
Okay, you can you can sit down. Thank you. Um  

370
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:39,200
I can tell you from my time when we served on 
when I when I served on the planning board,  

371
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:52,960
um we had um certain types of uses that most city 
residents wouldn't want on in town. So, they were  

372
00:43:52,960 --> 00:44:05,040
they were delegated to the I1 zoning district. 
Um, however, if you had a a a parcel with  

373
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:15,680
acorage such as this one, it was actually allowed 
there. That type of that type of business. And

374
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:24,080
knowing Mr. Vanacore him being here for 
a very long time most likely wouldn't  

375
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,400
do that but that type of development 
is allowed by right there are a lot  

376
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,600
of other developments that are 
allowed by right dollar stores  

377
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:41,520
um certain types of he has certain uses where he 
wouldn't even have to come to this commission and  

378
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,320
ask he wouldn't have to go to the planning board 
or the city commission and bill by right that's

379
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:56,000
He could, if this was denied, I guess, 
sell the property to somebody else who  

380
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:06,320
could come in and maybe build something 
we don't want. So, knowing how he builds,  

381
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:17,920
I mean, the projects he's done, I'm not I'm 
comfortable with this project. I'm not sure what

382
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,200
there's other there's other things out there 
that I would not be comfortable with. I'll just  

383
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,600
I'll leave it at that. Thank you. Yeah. And you 
know what? I'm just going to jump in here for a  

384
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,680
second because I saw some stuff, you know, I 
being under the weather, I'd spend a little  

385
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:35,600
more time online than I like to, you know, cuz 
not much to do when you're sick. Um, you know,  

386
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:41,520
that you're right, Commissioner Briley. You know, 
we the applicant right now he is I think it's B8  

387
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:46,480
zoning if I'm correct. B8 Steven and under B8 he 
can build you know all kinds of different things  

388
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,280
right he could build maybe a 30 40 50,000 foot 
building right freestanding building and put  

389
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,080
something there and you know he can do that right 
now he just has to go to site review committee oh  

390
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,520
sorry right site review committee non-commission 
approval needed is that correct Steven you know  

391
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,960
Steven actually you know what if you can come up 
here you can just kind of you know uh acknowledge  

392
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:12,480
what I'm saying here so this way we're on the 
same page so um the applicant can you know,  

393
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:19,120
at the current zoning the way it is under B8 can 
go and just apply for give site go to state review  

394
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,640
committee if you want to build a freestanding 
building for whatever the type of uses that are  

395
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:28,720
on that B8 zoning and you know it will not come 
to the commission here. Correct. Correct. They  

396
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:33,520
would have to do a zoning map amendment back 
to the B8 but once they're there then it is a  

397
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,480
staff approval for the uses in the B8 zoning 
district. The permitted and the conditional  

398
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,920
uses and then on the screen there shows it 
right there. Okay, those are some of the uses,  

399
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:47,360
correct? Nursing home, retail sales and 
services, clubs and fraternal organization,  

400
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,080
right? Things like that. I'm reading on the 
uh on the C permitted uses side now. I mean,  

401
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,400
and what could happen is that and I, you know, 
I I do real estate transactions and I, you know,  

402
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,880
I've been around this game a little bit. You know, 
that could eventually become a empty property,  

403
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,960
right? Somebody could move in there, things might 
not work out, and now you got empty property,  

404
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,680
right? And it could become blighted at some point. 
You have a lot of different uses that are going  

405
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,640
to be in this new uh zone change, right? You'll 
have commercial space in the front which could be  

406
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,280
a restaurant, a nail salon, hair salons, things 
like that, right? And then the rear part of the  

407
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:25,120
property if it's called the rear part there is 
we'll have warehouse units which are not really  

408
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,280
storage units. I don't know why they're called 
storage units. I mean I I know a little bit about  

409
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,680
these things. So I was trying to buy one and that 
was you know an obstacle but they're also business  

410
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,360
opportunities for people too. You know, people 
might, you know, somebody might want to, you know,  

411
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,920
be working out of their garage or it could be 
working out of a warehouse, a storage unit,  

412
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,480
you know, and they have supplies in the storage 
unit. They got a little full and now it's like,  

413
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,480
you know what, I got to step up my game. I got 
to go to a bigger space, right? And this is the  

414
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,480
space they're going to have. And it's also going 
to have an office inside those spaces, too, right,  

415
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,800
Steven? Yes, sir. Um, so you'll have an office 
as well. So, think about your your plumbers,  

416
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,440
your contractors, um, you know, people that 
services that we rely on, just so you all know,  

417
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,560
right? I mean how many times we call somebody 
for services and we call 10 people and five maybe  

418
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,040
call you back and three show up and maybe one 
will give you the actual job right so these are  

419
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:18,080
services that will be provided along with business 
opportunities so I and then you think about the  

420
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:23,520
tax roles too right we heavily rely on property 
tax right forget about the the whole property tax  

421
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:29,680
elimination thing right we rely on on property 
taxes I talked to mayors all across the state on  

422
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,920
different you know types of gatherings that we do 
and I've had mayors come up to me saying that, you  

423
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,840
know, we have a high millage rate. How do we get 
the millage rate down and they live in and they  

424
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,080
and their communities don't have any commercial 
business space at all and that's why their millage  

425
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,440
rate is high because every most of the people 
most of the residents are homesteaded. Their  

426
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,480
property values are a little lower and that's 
going to that's going to be have a reflection  

427
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,240
on what your property tax rate is. This type 
of thing right here is good because that's what  

428
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:56,880
keeps our millage rate low and that's why we have 
the second lowest millage rate in the county. So,  

429
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,000
you know, think about that for a second, right? 
You're going to have services coming out of this  

430
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,160
location. you're going to keep your taxes low and 
you're going to provide business opportunities for  

431
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:09,840
people too which also might include u you know 
job openings for for individuals as well. So I  

432
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,680
I you know I can understand the the frustration 
with some of the residents here on this whole  

433
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,560
thing but at the end of the day we could have a 
freestanding building that might not offer as much  

434
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,240
services might only be one service you know I mean 
for all you know I don't know what it could be  

435
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:26,640
could be one service not that much staff and not 
as much property taxes either collected because  

436
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,000
the property taxes are going to be assessed on 
what the value of the building is. Each one of  

437
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,480
those warehouse units I was told are going to 
be sold at $300,000 each. So if they're sold at  

438
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,560
$300,000 each, the assessed value is going to be 
300,000 and that's going to be the tax rate on it.  

439
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,560
And there's no there's no homestead because these 
things don't get homesteaded. So I think that,  

440
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,320
you know, overall I think it's a good project. 
I think it'll be good for the for the area. The  

441
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,400
the the applicant went through above and beyond 
everything that you were supposed to do to make  

442
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,000
sure that there wasn't going to be any flooding 
and things like that. So I mean at this point it's  

443
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,000
like, you know, it's hard to say no, especially 
when they can build something else. So that's  

444
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:07,120
my that's my comments for that. Anybody else 
want anything else? Okay. Commissioner Sargent,

445
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,360
I don't need Oh, Steven. No, no question for 
Steven. I'm sorry. Thank you, Steven. Standing  

446
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:17,440
there. There's just a few things I'd like to 
address, and I appreciate this resident taking  

447
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:22,320
the time to make the phone calls or the trips to 
get this information, but I think we're comparing  

448
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:29,040
apples with oranges because these are not storage 
facilities. And you know when you look at you know  

449
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:38,800
we hear Ormond doesn't need more storage units. 
Okay. If you go down Granada how many storage  

450
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:46,880
buildings do you see that are vacant? They're 
not up for sale. They're I I don't know they're  

451
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:53,520
you know I believe these um occupancy rates but 
they're not out of sale or out of business. When  

452
00:50:53,520 --> 00:51:02,080
you go down Granada, you see several restaurants 
that have closed. Um, so once again, these are not  

453
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:14,160
storage facilities. They're light industrial 
buildings for small business owners. And

454
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,480
I believe competition is good with these. 
And maybe the other places need to lower  

455
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,480
their rates for our residents instead of 
increasing the rates. Maybe they'll get more  

456
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:31,760
people and their occupancy rate will go up instead 
of increasing the rates. Just a business thought.  

457
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:38,880
Um, and I know that it came up that I think 
a during our last meeting that it was talked  

458
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:45,280
about a strip club going in there and I saw that 
online somewhere and I don't remember anyone up  

459
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:53,440
here referencing a strip club or a gentleman's 
club. I believe what was referenced was a and  

460
00:51:53,440 --> 00:52:02,880
can you go back one slide please? I believe thank 
you right there. I believe it was number 14 or 13  

461
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:09,920
I'm sorry a sexual sexually orientated business 
is what was referenced not a strip club. So when  

462
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:15,840
we talk in facts and make decisions I think it's 
important to do it in facts and it's not a storage  

463
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:26,480
facility. It wasn't a strip club being forced. 
It was light industrial with retail upfront and  

464
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:32,080
a sexually orientated business is what one 
that was a potential. So, I just think it's  

465
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:37,680
important to do facts and I I think this is 
going to be a great project for uh this area  

466
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:50,160
as the US 1 95 interchange gets redone and the 
empty lots start getting developed. You know,  

467
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,360
no one's going to develop, let's just think about 
this, no one's going to develop those lots right  

468
00:52:53,360 --> 00:53:00,000
now until that's interchange is done and then 
they can bring businesses in there and that will  

469
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:06,240
be our gateway to our community, not the storage 
facilities that everyone's saying we don't need  

470
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:14,000
this storage facility as our gateway. Well, that's 
once again, let's talk about facts. With that,  

471
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:20,080
I'm done. Thank you. Okay. With that said, 
you actually um what you read there about the  

472
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,960
resident wanted to table this. Is there any 
any energy here to table this thing? No. No.  

473
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:31,280
Seeing none. Okay. Any other discussion? No. 
Okay. Well, we have a motion on the floor for  

474
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,480
approval and we have a second. I don't believe 
you have a motion. Oh, we don't. I thought we  

475
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:42,080
had a motion for move approval. Okay. Second. We 
already have one. Oh, did we? Yeah. Second. No,  

476
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:48,400
I'm not. Sargent and Tolland. I'm sorry. My 
Okay. All right. With that said, we just verify  

477
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,720
we have the motion in a second. Uh, city clerk, 
please call the vote. Commissioner Deaton, yes.  

478
00:53:52,720 --> 00:54:03,600
Commissioner Briley, yes. Commissioner Tolland, 
yes. Commissioner Sargent, yes. Mayor Leslie, yes.

479
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:13,680
Okay. Well, city clerk, please read the 
legal title 8B, ordinance number 2026-02.

480
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:20,800
Ordinance number 2026-02, an ordinance amending 
chapter 2, District and General Regulations,  

481
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:27,600
article 2, District Regulation Section 2-39, 
affordable housing of the Ormond Beach Land  

482
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:33,280
Development Code to update the section 
based on Senate Bill 17:30 for expanded  

483
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:39,040
applicability to planned developments permitted 
in the area zoned for commercial, industrial,  

484
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:45,200
or mixed use and parking requirement reductions, 
repealing all inconsistent ordinances or parts  

485
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,360
thereof providing for severability and 
setting forth an effective date. This is  

486
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:58,000
the second reading of ordinance number 2026-02 
read by title only. Move approval. Second. Um,  

487
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,040
Commissioner Briley was absent in the 
last meeting. Do you want me to have  

488
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:09,760
Steven Spraker come up and just talk about the 
item? If you would briefly. Okay. Thank you.

489
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,800
Good evening. Steven Spraker, planning director 
with the city. So, uh, the Live Local Act was  

490
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:24,400
enacted in 2023, requires jurisdictions to, um, 
allow uses, uh, for affordable housing regarding  

491
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,560
height, density, and permitted by staff approval. 
In the last legislative session, there was Senate  

492
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:37,200
Bill SE 1730. It expanded the live local act to 
plan developments for commercial, industrial,  

493
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:44,000
and mixed use zonings. It also requires reduction 
of parking within a/4 mile of a transit stop. Our  

494
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:51,520
code already has multimodal um corridors that that 
has a a reduction. Quarter mile is a little larger  

495
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,880
than what we allow, but it's similar. Um so these 
are required state improvements that are now being  

496
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,360
integrated into the city's land development code. 
The planning board recommended approval and staff  

497
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,600
is also recommending approval. Any questions for 
Steven? No, sir. That was my understanding. So,  

498
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,400
thank you. Okay, great. Thank you, 
Steven. Okay, I don't have any cards. Uh,  

499
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:15,200
second reading here. Uh, any other discussion 
from the commission? No. Okay. City clerk,  

500
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,760
please call the vote. Commissioner Briley, yes. 
Commissioner Tolland, yes. Commissioner Sargent,  

501
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:28,320
yes. Commissioner Deaton, yes. Mayor Leslie, 
yes. I will now close the public hearings. Uh,  

502
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:34,640
city clerk, can you please read legal 
title 9A, resolution number 2026-15?  

503
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:41,520
Resolution number 2026-15, a resolution appointing 
a trustee to serve on the firefighters pension  

504
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:46,560
trust fund board setting forth terms and 
conditions of service and setting forth  

505
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:52,640
an effective date. This is resolution number 
2026-15 read by title only. Is there a motion  

506
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:58,800
for approval? Move approval. Second. Okay. 
Um I could have the city clerk speak on the  

507
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:04,720
item if any want her to speak about it. 
Seeing none. Okay. You got the free pass  

508
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:10,560
right now. Um I don't have any cards here. No 
other deliberation. So with that, city clerk,  

509
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:16,160
please call the vote. Well, we need to nominate 
somebody. Correct. Uh correct. This is Oh. Oh,  

510
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:22,080
you know what? You're right. That wasn't in my 
cheat sheet. Mr. Mayor, I I'll nominate um Mr.  

511
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:32,480
John Long. Mr. Can you say that again? John Long. 
Okay. Second. I'd like to nominate William Medlin.

512
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:45,600
Okay. So, let me just go here. So, any you want to 
Is there a second for William Medlin? Okay. Seeing  

513
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:52,400
none, I only have a first and second for John 
Wong. So, a motion fails on the on your motion.  

514
00:57:52,400 --> 00:58:00,960
Okay. Any other discussion then? Okay. City clerk, 
please call the vote. Commissioner Tolland, yes.  

515
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:12,640
Commissioner Sargent, yes. Commissioner Deaton, 
yes. Commissioner Briley, yes. Mayor Leslie, yes.

516
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:20,800
Okay. Uh, city clerk, please read a legal title 
9B, resolution number 2026-16. Resolution number  

517
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:26,880
2026-16, a resolution appointing a member to the 
planning board, setting forth terms and conditions  

518
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:33,280
of service, and setting forth an effective date. 
This is resolution number 2026-16 read by title  

519
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:41,520
only. Move approval. Second. Second. Okay. This 
is uh the mayor's appointed uh person. I nominated  

520
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:49,440
Amber Bobak. So um you know I already made the 
nomination on that. So uh if there's no any no  

521
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:55,920
other objections to it, um I think we could just 
call a vote, right, Randy? Sorry, I didn't mean to  

522
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:06,000
do that to you. Yeah. Yes, sir. Okay. Okay. Call 
vote, please. City clerk. Commissioner Sargent?  

523
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:11,760
Yes. Commissioner Deaton? Yes. Commissioner 
Briley? Yes. Commissioner Tolland? Yes. Mayor  

524
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:19,520
Leslie? Yes. And just real quick, is Amber here? 
Amber, congratulations. Well deserved and serve  

525
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:28,080
us well. I know you will. Okay, we're going to 
move on to uh uh staff and commission report,  

526
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:33,200
suggestions, and request starting with well, the 
city manager is not here today, so we'll start  

527
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:39,280
with assistant city manager Claire Whitley. Hi, 
good evening. Just a couple of announcements. Um  

528
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:44,800
Florida Department of Transportation has installed 
the last of the three pedestrian crossings on  

529
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:52,240
Granada. I believe the last one was the one on the 
east side of Granada across um from the shopping  

530
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:58,400
centers. And so those are all there to increase 
pedestrian safety. Hopefully you've seen people  

531
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:05,840
using them. I know the one across from the chamber 
I've seen activated quite often. Um movies on the  

532
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:11,920
Halifax this week is Pride and Prejudice on 
February 6 at 5:30. Reel in the fun fishing  

533
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:20,480
tournament is scheduled for Saturday, February 
14th at 8:00 a.m. at Central Park 1. And the great  

534
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:28,720
backyard bird count at the EDC is on Saturday, 
February 14th from 9 to 2. Any questions? Any  

535
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:34,080
other questions for Assistant City Manager Claire 
Whitley? Thank you. No, thank you, Claire. Uh,  

536
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:40,400
assistant city manager Shawn Finley. I just want 
to kind of brag about our utility department here.  

537
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:45,040
Uh, we had some cold weather over the weekend and 
and being that we're not used to freezes and cold  

538
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:51,600
weather, we uh sometimes don't know that we can 
how we can handle it. Um, just for some numbers,  

539
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:57,440
we received 91 calls to our water department over 
the weekend. On Sunday, every single one of our  

540
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:03,360
staff member was staff members was out there 
addressing those concerns. Um, majority of them  

541
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:09,200
were backflow preventers. Those those raised 
um portions of the water of the water service  

542
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,000
that you see sticking out of the ground. A lot of 
those were frozen. That was the really the biggest  

543
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:19,120
call that we got. We did have three water main 
breaks that that occurred on Monday. Two 2 in,  

544
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:24,720
one 6 in. And what I'm most proud is that our 
water distribution guys were able to make those  

545
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:30,240
fixes all what we call a hot condition where the 
pressure remained on the system. There was no  

546
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:35,120
outage. There is no need to do a boil water. 
Those guys are those guys are great. And so,  

547
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,920
um, they they really step up like they do on every 
day. So, I'm taking this as an opportunity to brag  

548
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:45,680
on them. So, but thank you all for and have a good 
night. Thank you for that, assistant city manager  

549
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:50,160
Shawn Finley. I know that we see I see Bob back 
there from utilities. Bob, thank you. And anybody  

550
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,560
else here from utilities? No. But Bob, make sure 
you let your staff know thank you for everything  

551
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:59,520
you do. Do a great job. And uh, it just goes to 
show how important our utilities are. you know,  

552
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:06,720
to uh to the to the community. Um uh city attorney 
Randy Hayes. No, sir. Thank you. And good night.  

553
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:11,280
Okay. Have a good night. And like I said, Joyce 
is not here. I know she's listening online. So,  

554
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,600
uh get well, Joyce, and everything will be taken 
care of. And we'll see you when you get back.  

555
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:20,960
Uh with that, we'll begin our evening with uh 
Commissioner Briley. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll be  

556
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:27,680
very brief. I just like to uh welcome uh Captain 
DW Smith back. You look great. Glad you're here  

557
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:34,560
with us this evening. and uh our city attorney, 
Randy Hayes. Welcome back. You're looking great.  

558
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:41,040
That Mr. Mayor, I'll say good night. Thank 
you. Good night. Um Commissioner Tolland,  

559
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:47,760
Deputy Mayor. Yep. Thank you. Uh first, I do have 
a request. I'm wondering if staff wouldn't mind  

560
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:55,200
reaching out to resident Marsha Blew regarding 
the airport. She had some questions. If we did the  

561
01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:01,440
we're not discussing the airport extension, but if 
we did, would that change the B2 level? If someone  

562
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:06,160
would mind reaching out to her and just talking to 
her about the airport. Yes, we can provide her all  

563
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:11,280
that information. I would appreciate it. Thank 
you. Um, I do want to congratulate our chamber.  

564
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:17,840
They had their annual installation and awards 
and congratulations to all the incoming um folks  

565
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:27,040
and great job with the outgoing folks. Um I was 
also attended the um the firefighters banquet the  

566
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:33,840
uh fire uh Ormond Beach fire department's banquet 
and they celebrated all the good men and women  

567
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:41,040
uh that performed exemplary work and their whole 
their whole department performs exemplary and I'm  

568
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:47,280
very proud of them and it was it was a fun 
banquet. um also able which just is for the  

569
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:55,200
residents that we were able to uh represent you 
at um Florida League of City's legislative action  

570
01:03:55,200 --> 01:04:00,560
days. Oh, I didn't know Marsha was here. 
I'm sorry. So, you'll be talking to staff.  

571
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:08,240
You're still here. Um Florida legislation action 
days. Um we advocated for a couple priorities,  

572
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:15,760
infrastructure type priorities for the city um 
with our legislature. So, I was um honored to  

573
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:22,240
be able to go up there and represent you as well. 
Um I also had the opportunity, it was kind of fun,  

574
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:28,400
uh was asked to read to some kindergarteners at 
Pine Trail Elementary for literacy week. And you  

575
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:35,840
know, you forget about why you do this and how fun 
it is. Um you know, we always see adult residents,  

576
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:42,160
but it's it's the kids that really um bring joy 
to your heart. And I enjoyed that opportunity.  

577
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:48,880
Um, also congratulations to the fire pension 
board and the planning board nominee. Amber,  

578
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:54,720
I know you're here. And I'm just going to say a 
couple things to to all the appointees in their  

579
01:04:54,720 --> 01:05:00,960
advisory thing. And my advice to you is take 
your appointment and I'm going to speak to  

580
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:06,640
you directly, but it's to any anybody and in 
any advisory position. Take your appointment  

581
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:13,840
seriously. Be prepared for your meetings. 
Participate with meaning. You don't have to  

582
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:19,920
just talk to talk. Make it meaningful. Listen 
carefully to what people say, particularly  

583
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:27,360
the residents. Always go into a meeting with an 
open mind and willing to learn and um know that  

584
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:34,400
you're appreciated. So, that would be my advice to 
anybody that's on any of our advisory boards. It's  

585
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:41,600
um it's a it's a privilege to serve and I think a 
lot of us started out serving on advisory boards  

586
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:47,440
and you learn a whole lot about the city when 
you're when you're doing those things. And um  

587
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:55,600
with that, I'm going to say good night. Good night 
uh Commissioner Sargent. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  

588
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:03,440
Um thank you public works. Appreciate that. The 
firefighter banquet. Sorry I could not attend. Um,  

589
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:10,400
thank you all for representing us there. Um, I'd 
also like to say a special thank you to PD, Fire,  

590
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:17,200
the Sheriff's Office for responding to Temple 
Beth-el last week during the bomb threat. You  

591
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,360
know, and it's not real easy when you have kids 
that go there and you get a call from your wife  

592
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:28,960
that um there's been a bomb threat. Um, but man, 
is it reassuring to know that they respond within  

593
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:35,280
less than a minute. I think all hands were on deck 
doing the sweep. You know, it really puts you at  

594
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:43,360
ease and um we just got to realize that there's no 
place for this hate in our society. Zero place for  

595
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:50,160
it. Doesn't need to be tolerated. And thank you 
to the sheriff's department who were able to track  

596
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:57,760
this person down, I believe, down by Main Street 
and took him into custody within 30 minutes,  

597
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:04,480
an hour of this incident happening. Um, thankfully 
no one was harmed obviously at the school. Um,  

598
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:11,120
but then the following day they got two more 
threats that were very nasty that were emails,  

599
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:16,960
you know, and of course they were traced to some 
far far away place. But it's just really a shame  

600
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:25,120
the hate that people have for whether it's 
um color, religion, whatever it may be. We  

601
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:31,040
need to rise up above that. We're better than 
that. And uh it's just very disturbing. But I  

602
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:40,320
am very thankful for the sheriff's department, 
police, fire, and everyone that responded. Um,

603
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:47,520
I also know that we put our names, a lot of us 
put our names on the petition that's going out for  

604
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:57,920
uh the the residents to vote on toilet to 
tap. What I would like to propose, if if this  

605
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:05,040
commission is okay with it, is for us to have a 
workshop to discuss and have staff provide us data  

606
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:12,800
with our water quality. What are we doing? Um, 
explain the wells in Ormond Beach, the re reser  

607
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:19,840
uh reverse osmosis that we do in Ormond. just 
really give us a high level because it's it's  

608
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:25,520
real easy to jump on and say, "Hey, we want to ban 
this and ban that." And you know, I think we need  

609
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:32,560
more information. Obviously, none of us want to 
drink toilet to tap water. I think that's probably  

610
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:39,440
I can't speak for everyone, but I know I don't. 
But I think it's important for us to maybe better  

611
01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:46,480
understand it before we make certain decisions 
on it. So, I don't know if everyone up here is  

612
01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:53,360
willing to maybe direct staff for a workshop on 
water and um kind of outline that, but I think  

613
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:57,600
that would be just something that I would like to 
know what you all think on it. So, you're really  

614
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:04,400
looking for just an education on how our water is 
and what we do. Correct. Correct. Is that really  

615
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:10,960
a a workshop or is that is that a presentation 
maybe from Shawn at a commission meeting? We  

616
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:17,040
could do that as well. Um what is uh Shawn what do 
you think about it? What's your opinion? I think  

617
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:22,000
we can cover a lot of those topics in a pretty 
short with a pretty short discussion item. Um we  

618
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:27,280
are in the process of work reworking our utility 
master plan which would be something at a later  

619
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:33,760
date that we would do a workshop on it. Um but I 
I think that a a more that's a little bit further  

620
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,880
down the line. So I think that we could we can 
come up with something in a little bit shorter  

621
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:42,400
order here and do a presentation. um get with the 
I I'll get with each of you individually and make  

622
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,840
sure that we're covering the things that you want 
want answers to and and if there's things that  

623
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,440
you want to learn more about, I'm happy to happy 
to get that information provided to you because  

624
01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:55,120
I think it just would benefit all. I would like a 
presentation so our community can hear it as well,  

625
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:59,680
not just one-on- ones. Well, I think that I 
think that you were talking about No, I didn't  

626
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:04,240
mean one-on- ones with you. I get with you each 
individually to get the topics you'd like for  

627
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:08,880
us to bring for our presentation at the commission 
meeting if if that works for you. Thank you. Okay,  

628
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:14,880
I I can hear him, too. Thank you. All right. So, 
uh basically what you're saying is that um you  

629
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,440
can meet us individually so we know what we want 
to talk what you we want you to talk about and do  

630
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:23,040
in a presentation. How much time do you think it 
would take you to to be able to do something like  

631
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:28,320
this? Can we can we have this in the agenda in 
the next maybe month or two? I I'd say our next  

632
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:34,720
meeting is February 17. Shoot for the March 3rd. 
If if that works and if that's not too late or  

633
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,880
if you want we can we can put pressure on it and 
get it get something for you for for next meeting.  

634
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:44,720
March 3rd is perfect with me. March 3rd. Everybody 
else. Okay. I think it's fine. I just think May  

635
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:50,720
I speak for one quick second? Sure. Mayor, I 
just think it's, you know, um Mr Finley, you're  

636
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:58,960
probably not aware. We're getting a lot of emails 
with misinformation and um we need to understand  

637
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:05,040
just as much as the residents. So I think even 
a high level where we're at well you know and  

638
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,840
we'll talk individually but yeah I think it need 
we don't need to get into all the the details of  

639
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:16,000
all that but high level and and that was the main 
reason for asking you know if you've got emails if  

640
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:20,000
you've got questions that you're getting from your 
resident from the residents that you want to make  

641
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:25,600
sure that we address we'll make sure I don't want 
to I don't want to cover nine out of 10 things we  

642
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,760
want to make sure we cover everything that that 
that you'all have questions about. So, fair  

643
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:37,120
enough. And I would just like to say reach out to 
family, friends, loved ones, and check in on them.  

644
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:44,720
You never know, you might save a life. With that, 
good night, Commissioner Deaton. Thank you. Um,  

645
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:49,680
well, I'll move past. I was able to read to the 
kindergarteners as well at Pathways Elementary,  

646
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:55,280
and that was quite the experience. Um, but it 
was good. And the We've attended a bunch of  

647
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,600
events. Nobody needs to go over all of it. We 
attended a bunch. They were all great. Okay. I  

648
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,840
had a meeting with Lucy Jackman at the Performing 
Arts Center last week. They are needing some help  

649
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:09,120
promoting the pac as a professional theater, but 
with community involvement, not necessarily as a  

650
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:14,400
community theater. They have all of the higher 
grade lighting and sound that they have highly  

651
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:19,840
invested in and are trying to get bigger artists. 
The pack is providing a 10% employee discount for  

652
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:25,360
the upcoming performance of the Ultimate Gar and 
Shaniah Tribute Show on Saturday, March 14th.  

653
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:32,160
So, if anybody who works for the city would like 
to go, she's giving 10% off. Um, I did get with  

654
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:37,200
um Mary Margaret Kelly so we can try to get Brian 
Kelly and they are working on that to try to get  

655
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:42,160
our hometown guy here for a concert at the pack. 
Not sure if it'll work out, but we put them in  

656
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,320
contact. If anyone has any other ideas on how 
to sell more tickets and get bigger performers,  

657
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:54,080
I'd love to get them back to Lucy. Have we 
asked Jen to help out with at that? I did. Okay.  

658
01:12:55,520 --> 01:13:03,200
Um, any other ideas of how to get No, not 
seeing any. Okay, moving on. Unfortunately,  

659
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:07,360
we didn't get the racing and wreck grant that 
we needed for the lighting on fields 11 and 12  

660
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:12,160
for safety. There was an incident on these fields 
this past weekend that involved a lot of police  

661
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:16,240
presence. With that being said, I'm proposing the 
following and would love to have the feedback of  

662
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:20,560
my fellow commissioners. I feel that we need to 
take the funds from the recreation fees income  

663
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:24,720
to get lighting on fields 11 and 12. They are 
moving flag football there from the Wendlestep  

664
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:29,920
fields. So, this is going to be imperative with 
the incident this weekend. Pey didn't necessarily  

665
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,320
know where to go right away and they were headed 
to the wrong field. We need to remove the Palmetto  

666
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,560
underbrush for better visibility, leaving the 
trees of course, and add additional signage  

667
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:46,800
for fields 11 and 12. And I'd like to get your 
input on that. Safety is really huge. And if our  

668
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:54,560
if if our first responders cannot get and find a 
field, so we only have the fields labeled on like  

669
01:13:54,560 --> 01:14:02,240
the fence like it used to be or are there real 
raw word Robert K left? Um there is signage but  

670
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:08,320
it wasn't I guess maybe Chief Godfrey can maybe 
speak to what the confusion was with the officers  

671
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:14,640
going to the field. So maybe I'm sorry signage 
isn't on the road. It isn't on the road. So,  

672
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,160
we need to get the signage on the road. And they 
were having problems with the underbrush being  

673
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,560
able to see where the field was because there's so 
much palmetto under. That's a no-brainer. I mean,  

674
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,240
you have to have signage. I think a lot of this 
could be could be solved with wayfinding signage  

675
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:33,280
out there because there's almost none. Okay. 
So, we could maybe direct. We'd like to see for  

676
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:38,160
safety reasons uh we need to see the underbrush 
cleared out and the trees kept. Yeah. And what  

677
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:44,000
are you asking about with uh the lighting? Okay. 
So, we had what was it a couple of meetings ago?  

678
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,840
We requested a grant for the wreck and the wreck 
and racing grant so we could get the the lighting  

679
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:52,160
at least matched for the the lighting on those 
two fields. They don't have any lighting on those  

680
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:58,080
two fields. We didn't get it. We weren't in the 
top seven. So, um I was speaking to Doug Thomas  

681
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:02,640
who is not here at the moment, but he suggested 
possibly taking the funds from the recreation fees  

682
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:07,920
income to get lighting on those two fields. Do we 
So, there's no lighting or are we just converting  

683
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,720
it to LED? I need to get more information. 
There's no lighting on those two fields. Uh,  

684
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:17,440
Robert's not here. Uh, Alex, shaking your head. 
Is that correct? So, could we just get some more  

685
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:23,040
information and bring it back? Maybe ask Robert 
what that would look like financially, you know,  

686
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:29,200
and how much Absolutely. We've already started 
that discussion with uh our finance director,  

687
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,960
Kelly. So, we'll bring that information back to 
you. Okay, that's great. Yeah, I just couldn't  

688
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:37,040
make a decision right now. Absolutely. But that 
was something that he would like us to look into,  

689
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:42,800
so I figured I'd bring it up. Um, that is all I 
have. Have a good night. Thank you. Have a good  

690
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:48,080
night. Um, I will echo the commissioners on some 
of the things that was discussed just now. I mean,  

691
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:53,760
we did a lot of events together. Um, I also got 
to read to uh some young kids, first graders.  

692
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,680
It was really interesting. I haven't read to a 
first grader in I don't remember how long. Um,  

693
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:03,680
but that was really a lot of fun. Um, we had our 
legislative days um in Tallahassee. That was very  

694
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:08,400
interesting. Got to learn a little bit more about 
what's going on in Tallahassee. As you may know,  

695
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:13,280
this is the last uh session for the governor. 
So, a lot of moving parts happening and a lot  

696
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:17,920
of things going on. Uh but it was a good learning 
experience for us. Um we had a chance to talk to  

697
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:23,360
our delegates about our city's priorities for two 
projects that we'd like to get funded. Um I think  

698
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:27,840
that the consensus was that, you know, everyone 
seemed to be okay with it, but by the time it  

699
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,160
gets to the governor's desk, that could be another 
story, but we're hoping for the best on that one.  

700
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:38,320
Um attended the firefighters banquet. Great job 
by the fire department. There's some fire guys  

701
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:43,600
over there. Uh it was the second annual uh really 
great job and it's really nice to recognize the uh  

702
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:49,200
fire department for everything they do. Uh great 
group of people. Um you know police department  

703
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:54,480
too. I mean you know what happened the other day 
at Temple Beth-el. I mean I saw the the message  

704
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:59,680
and I'm like oh you know and then within short 
time you know they already captured the person.  

705
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,280
So that was really good. And that's what that's 
what I love about the police department. We have a  

706
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:07,840
great police department and you know that's one of 
the things I talk to residents about when we talk  

707
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:12,880
about our our property taxes. It's like we got 
the second lowest milit rate in the county and we  

708
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,640
still have a great police department and we have 
great services and that's that's the investment  

709
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:22,720
that we get in our community. So we pay property 
taxes. It's an investment and that investment is  

710
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:26,480
money well spent with our first responders. So 
thank you to the first responders for everything  

711
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:32,080
they do. Um the last thing I want to talk about 
too is that we have um you know this is election  

712
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:36,960
year. hear a lot of things going on with that. And 
so I just want to just kind of point out that, you  

713
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:43,120
know, everyone out there just to try to be mindful 
if you're um a candidate for office about just  

714
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:48,240
um being careful about, you know, what you're 
going to post on your campaign page um versus  

715
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:53,360
what you do with uh things in your position that 
you're in. Um, I remember meeting General Flynn  

716
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,720
about two years ago and I wanted to do a picture 
with him and I was a candidate and he knew I was  

717
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,840
a candidate and he wouldn't take the picture 
with me because he's like, "No, I don't want  

718
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,840
you to post it because then it'll look like an 
endorsement or something like that." So, just be  

719
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:08,240
mindful of that because, you know, uh, some people 
might not like it. Just ask, you know, permission,  

720
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:12,560
you know, before you do things like that. Um, 
but other than that though, uh, good luck to  

721
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:19,680
all everybody out there and, uh, be safe, be well, 
and with that, I'm going to adjourn the meeting.