[0:00] Our city manager is out sick, 
so our prayers are with her. Um,  
[0:03] but we do have assistant city manager Claire 
Whitley, assistant city manager Shawn Finley,  
[0:09] uh, city attorney Randy Hayes, and to my far left 
and your far right, we have our great chiefs, uh,  
[0:15] Jesse Godfrey, Fire Chief Howard Bailey, 
and I am Mayor Jason Leslie. Thank you all  
[0:23] for being here tonight. At this time, 
I'd like to call up Pastor George Ward  
[0:30] uh to come up for the uh invocation 
followed by the pledge of allegiance.
[0:41] Shall we pray? Our heavenly father and our 
God, we're both thankful and grateful for  
[0:48] your benevolence, your love, your grace, your 
protection, and your provision for each of us.  
[0:55] We stop to thank you for life, for family, 
for love, and for community. We thank you  
[1:02] for the opportunities and the mandate 
that you've given our Ormond Beach city  
[1:07] commissioners and how you have called them to 
build community of integrity, trust, and love.  
[1:15] We ask your blessings on our city officials who 
have been called to lead the community in which we  
[1:22] leave, live, and to interact, to work, to serve, 
and play. Thank you, God, for our honorable mayor,  
[1:30] Jason Leslie. For our city commissioner, zone 
one, Lori Tolland, zone two, Travis Sargent,  
[1:37] zone three, Kristin Deaton, and zone four, 
Harold Briley. Thank you for our city manager  
[1:44] Joyce Shanahan and the assistant Shawn Finley and 
Claire Whitley. We bless our police chief Robert,  
[1:53] affectionately called Jesse Godfrey and our city 
attorney Randy Hayes. We pray for each staff team  
[2:01] member official department and the boards that 
serve our community. We ask for your wisdom, your  
[2:08] direction, your guidance as they strategically 
labor to build a better, a greater, and a stronger  
[2:15] Ormond Beach. We pray for understanding and 
clarity as resolutions and as proclamations  
[2:23] are presented on tonight. Thank you, oh God, for 
this beautiful weather in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.
[2:34] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United 
States of America and to the republic for which  
[2:40] it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, 
with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.  
[2:48] You all be seated. Pastor George, thank 
you for coming out. It was good seeing you.
[3:05] Okay, we're going to move on to presentations 
and proclamation section of the agenda. Today  
[3:10] we have one proclamation and I'd 
like to call up Sergeant Ray Llanes.
[3:27] Sergeant, it's good to see you, too. First, we 
thank you for being here. Thank you for everything  
[3:33] you do. Before I present this proclamation, 
don't worry, I'm not contagious. Uh, if before  
[3:37] I present this proclamation, is there anything 
you'd like to say? No, just thank you for the  
[3:41] opportunity to attend this course. It's a it was a 
wonderful course and it just helped me, you know,  
[3:47] understand how to do my job just a little bit 
better and serve this community. And thank you.  
[3:52] Thank you. So, at this time, I'll have you 
hold up the the plaque here and I'll read  
[3:58] the proclamation. Like I said, excuse me everyone 
for my voice tonight. Um, I'm not contagious, just  
[4:04] something that the doctor couldn't figure out. Uh 
whereas Sergeant Ramon uh Llanes, I'm sorry, I'm  
[4:16] trying to get my thing here, began his career with 
the Ormond Beach Police Department on May 1st,  
[4:21] 2017. And whereas Sergeant uh Yiannis recently 
graduated from the University of Louisville  
[4:28] Southern Police Institute's 102nd Command Officer 
Development Course held in Orlando, Florida.  
[4:34] This five-month intensive program compromising of 
two weeks intervals focuses on the development of  
[4:40] leadership and professional skills. And whereas 
Sergeant Llanes brings a wealth of experience from  
[4:47] his 22-year tenure with the Miami-Dade Police 
Department, his background includes roles as  
[4:54] police officer, crime suppression, auto theft task 
force, economic crimes, and special victims unit,  
[5:02] corporal and sergeant. And whereas being the 
supervisor of the criminal investigations unit,  
[5:08] Sergeant Llanes leads his team with pride and 
dedication, he also serves as the vice president  
[5:14] for the police collective bargaining unit. And 
whereas Sergeant Llanes has demonstrated his  
[5:21] dedication to the law enforcement profession, 
being away from home and family to enhance his  
[5:26] knowledge, skills, and abilities, his exceptional 
work ethic and unwavering commitment to duty make  
[5:32] him an accomplished and valuable member of 
the police department, city, and community.  
[5:38] Now therefore, I, Jason Leslie, mayor 
of the city of Ormond Beach, Florida,  
[5:42] do hereby proclaim February 3rd, 2026 as a day to 
recognize Sergeant Ramon Llanes. Congratulations.
[6:10] Uh, okay. Yep. Bring everybody up. 
Oh, who's that? Oh, wow. Hello, wife.
[6:32] Hold
[6:36] on.
[6:52] Come on.
[7:15] Thank you.
[7:31] Thank you.
[7:44] Okay, great. We're going to move on here as soon 
as uh Captain Roos is doing doing his job here.  
[7:52] doing good. A damn good job of it. You're doing 
good. We love you, Captain. Okay. At this time,  
[7:57] we'll hear from those of you who have signed a 
card to speak about any item which is not on the  
[8:02] printed agenda for this meeting or any items on 
the consent agenda. Each person be given a total  
[8:07] of three minutes. As a reminder, please be sure to 
state your name and address and speak clearly into  
[8:11] the microphone as it helps us uh do any kind of 
follow-ups that we might have to do with you later  
[8:16] on. So, at this point we have uh we have Patricia 
Franzem. Patricia. Oh, there you are, Patricia.
[8:40] I hope my voice doesn't go out. I'm having 
problems. Oh boy. Okay. Good evening. My name  
[8:46] is Patricia Franzem and I am representing the Bear 
Creek Village community located in Ormond Beach.  
[8:54] I am submitting for public record a petition that 
has been signed by 190 Bear Creek residents. This  
[9:01] petition is in regards to the Riverbend Golf 
Course located on Airport Road. We would like  
[9:07] this beautiful piece of property to become usable 
outdoor space. Please know I do not claim to be an  
[9:15] architect or financial planner. I understand 
that's your job. But what I am is a person  
[9:21] who loves and appreciates the outdoors. Ormond 
Beach has the amazing ocean for all to enjoy.  
[9:29] We have parks and we have playgrounds. However, 
when we go to these places, we are just about  
[9:35] always surrounded by the noise of traffic. 
We have plenty of stores, medical buildings,  
[9:41] and apartment complexes. A great deal of time and 
money has been put into new roads and sidewalks  
[9:47] along A1A. We live in a time where many talk about 
the importance of protecting the environment and  
[9:54] concerns about children not spending enough 
time outdoors and away from screens and how  
[10:00] many seniors become depressed by sitting indoors 
watching TV. You have an opportunity to turn  
[10:07] Riverbend into a place where young and old alike 
can enjoy being outdoors. You have the opportunity  
[10:15] to really help the people of Ormond Beach. Isn't 
that why you were elected to this commission to  
[10:22] serve and help the residents of Ormond Beach? Take 
a look at the land and try to see walking trails,  
[10:33] picnic areas, a small restaurant, maybe a 9-hole 
golf course. Riverbend is off of Airport Road, but  
[10:42] the property is tucked away from the street noise. 
This area of Ormond Beach needs and wants outdoor  
[10:50] recreational space. Why not take this opportunity 
and give the residents of Orman Beach something  
[10:57] that would be used and greatly appreciated. Thank 
you very much for your time. Thank you, Patricia.
[11:08] Next up, we have Debbie Forrester. Debbie, there 
you are in that really cool looking uniform.
[11:19] Debbie Kruk Forrester, Ormond Beach, founder and 
commander of Ormond Strong, a nonprofit benefiting  
[11:25] military veterans, first responders, many are 
both, and um their families and patriots within  
[11:31] the community. Um you know our history. We started 
a vigil morning bridgewalk over the Grand Bridge  
[11:36] in 2015 when my husband and 200 others from the 
first of 265th ADA deployed for a one-year mission  
[11:43] to Afghanistan. March uh 2016 all returned home 
safe. We had over a thousand people at the Daytona  
[11:50] Beach airport. Welcome them home. We continue 
to walk every day raising awareness and support  
[11:55] for all who have served our great country and 
communities. With that said, and this being the  
[12:00] semi quincentennial, a historic m milestone in our 
country, Ormond Strong Bridgewalks are celebrating  
[12:08] our nation's 205th birthday, raising awareness and 
support for all who sacrificed their time. their  
[12:14] strength, their ambition, their health, and their 
lives on this earth over the past 250 years so  
[12:21] that we can enjoy the freedoms we have today. Why 
am I wearing the uniform, you ask? No, Long John  
[12:26] Silvers is not my side hustle. I'm wearing it to 
honor a great patriot, uh, the only female patriot  
[12:34] that served hands-on the Revolutionary War, 
Deborah Sampson. Um, she's from Massachusetts. She  
[12:40] disguised herself as a um man by cutting her hair 
um bounding her bosoms. Can I say that here? Yeah,  
[12:48] I guess so. And um she took she started in uh 
1782. She uh as a war raged on, she disguised  
[12:58] herself as Robert Shortlift and joined the fourth 
Massachusetts re regiment. Um, she then went on to  
[13:06] serve in the Continental Army under uh, General 
George Washington. She took uh, two musket balls  
[13:12] in the left thigh for America. Uh, she didn't want 
to have her gender um, they didn't she didn't want  
[13:21] anybody to know she was a female. So, she took her 
pocket knife, took the uh, one musket ball out and  
[13:27] sewed herself back up. But, um, after that, yes. 
And I'll do it any day for America. Uh yeah, but  
[13:36] then uh when she was serving in Pennsylvania, a 
fever broke out and the gig was up. So that's why  
[13:42] I'm wearing the uniform. But it was Paul Revere 
that got her her full uh honorable discharge and  
[13:49] her pension. So um I'm here to let you know any 
stories like this you want to hear. Uh we have the  
[13:56] veterans museum that our group Ormond Strong paid 
the first 20 years rent for the that it started  
[14:02] over there that um be between those doors. I don't 
know if you know the history of it, the Veterans  
[14:08] Museum, but it moved on to um Daytona Beach and 
um we make sure it continues. We ask you to come  
[14:16] out and support the Veterans Museum dur during 
this historic time. Thank you. Ormond Strong Out.
[14:29] So, our mayor had to excuse himself 
for a moment. He asked me if I would  
[14:33] continue with the cards. Is that okay? 
Okay. So, the next up is Derek Weider.
[14:47] May I have help here? Is that okay?
[14:52] Should we move on? You're the chair. It's up to 
you. I'm I'm sorry. You You're the chairperson,  
[14:59] so it's up to That would be fine. I'll 
put you to the end of the pile and we'll  
[15:03] we'll move on to the next person. 
Um next up is Suzanne Scheiber.
[15:19] Good evening, Commission. if you could just 
tell the mayor what I said later maybe in  
[15:24] closing comments. Um Suzanne Scheiber dream green 
Volusia there's been discussion at the Volusia  
[15:30] County Council meetings about Volusia forever 
specifically concerning perpetuity and why we  
[15:35] have partners. In the year 2020 an impressive 
75.6% of voters express strong support for the  
[15:41] land conservation program, a percentage that 
exceeds the approval ratings of any current  
[15:47] county council elected official and likely any 
of those in the past or in the future. In 2000,  
[15:54] the initiative rate received 61.6% which is was 
still very high back then. With percentages this  
[16:01] high, a reasonable assumption would be that many 
of the people in the chamber tonight voted to  
[16:06] tax themselves in support of land conservation. 
The title Volusia forever suggests it represents  
[16:12] forever or permanent. It is a good time to note 
that it is a willing seller program providing land  
[16:18] owners with options. There is a 25-year precedent 
in Volusia County of never selling land acquired  
[16:25] through the program, coupled with a proven track 
record of establishing strong partnerships, always  
[16:31] with county attorneys participating in these 
discussions. The benefits of land conservation are  
[16:38] many. Improved water quality, flood prevention, 
biodiversity, recreational opportunities, cultural  
[16:44] preservation, agriculture, and even more. Volusia 
County has been a leader in land conservation, as  
[16:51] I said, for 25 years. Tonight, we're requesting a 
consensus letter to be sent to the Volusia County  
[16:59] Council supporting perpetuity and partnerships for 
the Volusia Forever program. The city has been a  
[17:05] partner in this program, so it should be easy 
to reinstate your support. Thank you for your  
[17:10] time. Thank you, Suzanne. Could I say something 
real quick? Deputy mayor, can I speak real quick?  
[17:17] Sure. Do we want to speak about what she just um 
We can either do that now or we could wait till  
[17:23] the end of the meeting. Um what would you like 
to do? I mean, if we're in consensus, I mean,  
[17:28] I wouldn't mind giving a letter of support for 
volusia forever if anybody else is on board with  
[17:32] that. Everybody else agreed that that's something 
you want to do. I'm good with that as well.
[17:44] My thing's not working. I agree as well. 
So, can we direct staff to write a letter  
[17:50] um in support of Volusia Forever and Echo and its 
partners? Correct. And its partners. Yes. Yes. Um  
[18:00] on behalf of the commission and would you like 
that to come back to you or we can just send you  
[18:03] a copy? You can just send it then. Okay. Great. 
Oh, I should be able to direct that to you. Sorry.  
[18:07] Is everybody okay with staff to just send it or do 
we need to see it? I'm fine with staff sending it.  
[18:12] I don't need to see it. Great. Thank you. Thank 
you so much, Claire. appreciate that and thank you  
[18:18] Suzanne for bringing that to our attention. 
All right, next up will be David Randall.
[18:33] Good evening. My name is David Randall. 
I live at 99 Chrysanthemum here in Ormond  
[18:38] Beach. I'm also a captain with the 
Ormond Beach Fire Department and  
[18:41] I'm president of the Ormond Beach 
Professionals Firefighters Union.  
[18:45] This city is my life. The men and women I serve 
with and the community that I serve are my life.  
[18:51] Um, I say this because I want you to understand 
how seriously I take my responsibilities as both  
[18:57] union president and a captain with the Ormond 
beach fire department, which I know you all do.  
[19:02] Um, I stand here tonight asking for your support 
in passing our collective bargaining agreement.  
[19:08] The proposed contract before you represents many 
years of hard work, lots of hours in negotiations.  
[19:15] Um, I'd like to thank Claire Whitley and Samantha 
Potts for all their uh, patience and hard work  
[19:22] throughout the negotiation process. I'd also like 
to thank you, the commission, um, for working with  
[19:28] us and willingness to meet and listen to what we 
have and what's important to our members. I ask  
[19:34] that you pass the contract tonight as proposed 
and I hope you have a great night. Thank you.
[19:45] Thank you, Mr. Randall. 
And next up is Marsha Blew.
[19:58] You'll be happy to know I have a very short one. 
Just a couple of questions. Marsha Blew, Ormond  
[20:03] Beach. Good evening, commissioners and mayor. 
The following is in reference to Ormond Beach  
[20:09] Municipal Airport. Um, if the runway extension 
happens, will the airport design group runway  
[20:18] remain a B2? Will the larger jets be flying in and 
out a QDO/OMN that are larger than a B2? Below is  
[20:28] my email address for someone to please send me the 
answers. Thank you for your time and good night.
[20:37] Thank you very much. And we have one last 
card, one last card. It's Derek Weader. Are  
[20:43] we moving on to that now or are we waiting 
for the mayor to return? Returning. Um,  
[20:51] Madam Chair, so we allocate 30 minutes for 
audience remarks. Uh and then you proceed to  
[20:58] um the items of business. So if meter Mr. Weader 
would like to speak now, that's fine. If not,  
[21:04] then we just close it out and go to city business. 
All right. Mr. Weader, would you like to speak?
[21:26] Derek Weader, Ormond Beach. Good evening, 
Mr. Mayor, commissioners, and city manager.  
[21:33] My name is Derek. I'm here tonight because I 
believe deeply in transparency, accountability,  
[21:38] and the constitutional rights of every resident 
in the city. I'm speaking publicly because private  
[21:43] avenues have failed and because recent actions by 
the mayor and individuals closely associated with  
[21:48] him have crossed serious legal and ethical lines. 
I want to be very clear. I don't seek conflict. I  
[21:54] seek accountability. Over the past several months, 
I've been subjected to repeated harassment,  
[22:00] intimidation, and retaliation after exercising 
my First Amendment right to speak out on matters  
[22:05] of public concern. That alone is troubling. What 
is more troubling is that these actions appear to  
[22:10] involve misuse of authority and coordination 
with private individuals. Specifically,  
[22:15] I'm putting the city on notice tonight of 
the following concerns. First, the unlawful  
[22:21] disclosure of my private medical information to 
third parties. Medical information is protected.  
[22:26] It is not political amu am ammunition. It is not 
gossip. The mayor disseminating it without consent  
[22:32] is only not only unethical, but it constitutes 
violation of state and federal law. Second,  
[22:38] the monitoring and recording of private phone 
calls without consent by the mayor and family  
[22:44] members to be used to intimidate and threaten to 
use in family proceedings. Florida is a two-party  
[22:52] consent state. Recording a call without all 
parties knowledge and agreement is illegal.  
[22:57] No elected official and no family member of 
an elected official is above that law. Third,  
[23:03] retaliation and harassment directed not just at 
me but at my family. after I exercise protected  
[23:08] speech. That is unacceptable in a free society and 
it has a chilling effect on every resident who may  
[23:14] want to speak out here tonight. Let me be clear. 
Public office does not grant immunity. Power does  
[23:20] not excuse misconduct and criticis criticism of 
government is not harassment. It's democracy.  
[23:27] I'm asking this commission to take these concerns 
seriously to ensure that no city resources,  
[23:32] authority or influence are being used to 
intimidate citizens and to reaffirm that this city  
[23:38] respects the constitution is sworn to uphold. I am 
documenting this record. I am preserving my rights  
[23:43] and I'm asking for accountability, not special 
treatment. Thank you for your time. All right.
[23:53] All right. So that ends the comments 
and I don't have the agenda in front  
[23:58] of me. I'll have to move to the middle seat.
[24:17] I have my agenda right here. Right here. Get 
in here, darling. There is an annotated agenda.
[24:35] All right, guys. You don't get me in the middle  
[24:37] seat. Looks like our mayor's 
back for a couple of months.
[24:55] Where we at here?
[25:01] I'm sorry. Uh, where are we at? Where are we 
at? We just finished public comments. Okay. So,  
[25:07] we're on the consent. We didn't We didn't vote on 
the consent yet. We're just at number six. Number  
[25:12] six. Okay. Okay. So, the approval of the minutes. 
Okay. Give me a second here. Um, okay. The minutes  
[25:21] for the January 20, 2026 city commission meeting 
have been sent to the commission for review and  
[25:25] posted to the city's website. Does anyone have 
any corrections or changes at this time? Move  
[25:29] approval. Second. Second. Second. Okay. Any 
other discussion? Seeing none, all those in  
[25:34] favor by saying I. I. I. Okay. The eyes have it. 
Uh, minutes approved. I move on to consent. Um,  
[25:42] items on the consent agenda are deemed routine and 
non-controversial. The action proposed is stated  
[25:48] for each item. Unless the city commission 
removes an item from the consent agenda,  
[25:52] no discussion on individual items will occur 
and a single motion will approve all items.  
[25:56] Does any member of the commission wish to pull 
anything from the consent agenda at this time?  
[26:01] I move to um move consent agenda item 7G as 
in go. Okay. So, is there any other ones?  
[26:12] Move approval absent 7G. Second. Okay. Uh, any 
discussion? No. Seeing none. Okay. City clerk,  
[26:19] please call the vote. Commissioner Tolland, yes. 
Commissioner. Sargent. Oh, it's minus G. May.  
[26:26] Yes. Yes. Commissioner Deaton? Yes. Commissioner 
Briley? Yes. Mayor Leslie? Yes. Uh, city clerk,  
[26:38] could you please read 7G? disposition item titled 
RFP employee benefits broker of record services.
[26:48] Okay. Is there a motion for approval? 
Move approval. Harold. Second. Okay.  
[26:56] Discussion. So I removed um G because 
uh potentially could have a son that  
[27:03] will be bidding on the RFPs being sent 
out. Okay. Uh, Commissioner Sargent,  
[27:12] wait. And I and I I'm sorry. And I filed form FB 
8B. Okay. With um our city clerk, Commissioner  
[27:23] Sargent. Thank you. I work for uh an agency 
that could participate in the bid. Therefore,  
[27:30] I will be removing myself from sending this out 
to bid and I have my form 8B to give to the city  
[27:36] clerk. Thank you. Okay. Easy enough. Any other 
discussion from the commissioners? Seeing none,  
[27:42] we have a motion and second on the floor. City 
clerk, please call the vote. Commissioner Sargent,
[27:49] abstain. Commissioner Deaton, yes. Commissioner 
Briley, yes. Commissioner Tolland, abstain. Mayor  
[27:57] Leslie, yes. Do any of the commissioners wish 
to comment any of the consent agenda item items  
[28:02] at this time? No. Okay, we're going to move 
on then. Okay. Uh, I will now open the public  
[28:10] hearings. City clerk, please read the legal title 
8A, Ordinance number 2026-01. Ordinance number  
[28:17] 2026-01, an ordinance authorizing the execution 
and issuance of a development order for a planned  
[28:24] business development to be located at 890 North US 
Highway 1 to be known as the Tomoka Commerce Park,  
[28:32] authorizing the development of the property 
for a mixture of commercial, warehouse,  
[28:37] and light industrial uses, establishing conditions 
and expirations of approval, and setting forth an  
[28:42] effective date. This is the second reading of 
ordinance number 2026-01 read by title only.  
[28:49] Move approval. Second. Okay. Um, do we need 
to Steven Spraker to come up and discuss about  
[28:56] the item again? No. Okay. I do have two cards 
here for public comments. So, I will call out  
[29:02] those speakers right now. Uh, we have uh Patrick 
Opalewski and on deck is Jim Cameron. Jim. Okay.  
[29:11] Uh Patrick O Patrick Opalewski, 647 North 
Beach Street. Uh Mr. Mayor, city commissioners,  
[29:19] I'm here to speak in support of the project. 
Um the small bay industrial product again is  
[29:26] u you know is something that we need here. It's 
in demand. Uh not a lot of availability of it.  
[29:32] Uh this is a great project and exciting 
from an economic development standpoint.  
[29:36] um you know, entrepreneurs will start 
small businesses and and these kind of  
[29:42] projects and they'll grow into um um 
employers right here in the city and  
[29:49] um you provide opportunity for long-term jobs. Uh 
I speak in support of the project. I respectfully  
[29:56] ask for your support of the project. Thank you 
very much. Thank you, Patrick. Jim Cameron.
[30:07] Good evening. I'm Jim Cameron, Jim Cameron 
Consulting, 39 Laurel Oak Circle here in  
[30:13] Ormond. But uh pretty much to reiterate what I'd 
said at your previous commission meeting though  
[30:19] about this project. It's going to be a quality 
project with quality type of businesses here,  
[30:25] retail and professional though. And that said, 
it's it's something that I again I've worked  
[30:34] quite a bit and I've seen their work at Parker 
Mynchenberg and Associates and they've gone over  
[30:42] this area there quite a bit though and I think 
you're going to have like I say something that's  
[30:46] a high and dry type of project but more so again 
uh been following Tallahassee and I talking with  
[30:55] them today and those bills are moving up 
there as it relates to property tax relief  
[31:02] for homesteads for homesteads. And that's going 
to affect y'all here at the city level because  
[31:08] you take out that homestead property or if you 
lower it somehow, you're going to have that much  
[31:13] more of a need for nonhomesteaded commercial type 
business projects though like this is. So again,  
[31:21] I support the project, Mr. Mayor. Thank 
Thank you, Jim. Uh, Commissioner Briley,  
[31:28] it's my apologies. I would like to hear Mr. 
Spraker's uh uh Sure. Let's do it. I'd like  
[31:32] to hear from Mr. Spraker on this. I'd like to hear 
his presentation. Yeah, that's right. I was not at  
[31:36] the last meeting. That's right. You should have 
said something. I forgot about that. You know,  
[31:38] I'm not 100% tonight. So, you know, give me a 
little break there. Steven, how are you? I'm doing  
[31:43] great. Good evening. Steven Spraker, planning 
director with city. So, the property is located  
[31:47] 890 uh North US Highway 1 shown on the screen. 
It's about US Highway 1 and the railroad tracks.
[31:56] The project has a uh general commercial land use 
and a planned business development zoning. There  
[32:03] were two previous approvals uh both of which 
expired. The 2007 approval was known as a root  
[32:08] commerce park. Similar site design as what 
is being presented tonight. Um although the  
[32:14] industrial in the back is a little bit different 
with the site design today. The project um has an  
[32:20] expired development order. There are two choices. 
is either to go back to the B8 zoning district  
[32:24] which would allow the permitted and conditional 
uses or to seek the plan business development  
[32:28] amendment which is before you tonight. There is 
a separate preliminary plat preliminary plat are  
[32:34] now approved by the site plan review committee 
based on state law. Um there are four proposed  
[32:39] lots. Lots one and two for commercial. Lots three 
and four would be for warehouse light industrial  
[32:44] uses. This is the site plan that was included in 
your packet. Uh the total project is 12.48 acres.  
[32:51] There is a wetland on the southeast corner that 
is being preserved. The project has their St.  
[32:56] John's River Water Management District permit and 
they are exceeding their natural preservation at  
[33:00] 20% where the land development code requires 15%. 
There are a total of 11 buildings totaling 110,000  
[33:08] square ft. Lots one and two are just over 9,800 
ft. Those are commercial along the front edge  
[33:13] of US1. Lots three and four are on the rear site 
and those are intended to be a warehouse inside  
[33:20] RV boat storage and light industrial uses. The uh 
development order that's included in your packet  
[33:27] has a list of uses. Lots one and two are shown 
on my left. Those are commercial uses. Lots three  
[33:33] and four are shown on uh my right. Um so if it's 
not on that list, it's not allowed in that that  
[33:40] development. The project has been reviewed by the 
Florida Department of Transportation. There was a  
[33:46] traffic impact analysis. There are improvements 
that are required on US Highway 1. The center  
[33:51] drive aisle would be the entrance into the 
project. The drive aisle on the north would be the  
[33:56] exit. Um there are three a total of three wetlands 
on the property. Uh wetland A is being preserved.  
[34:03] It's just over 1.2 acres. wetlands B and C which 
are uh each less than half an acre are being  
[34:10] impacted and incorporated into the storm water 
system. The project um has two flood zones. Flood  
[34:17] zone A is basically where the wetlands are. The 
rest of the site is in zone X which is not in the  
[34:22] special flood hazard area. The two deviations that 
are being sought through the project are four uh  
[34:28] foundation plantings along where the warehouses bu 
buildings are. those are being uh replanted within  
[34:34] the site. And then to delete the interior drive um 
interior lot buffers where the drive aisle exist  
[34:41] and that is a a deviation that's been approved on 
previous projects. There is one historic tree that  
[34:47] is being uh proposed to to be removed. There is an 
analysis from uh Mr. Don Spence who uh basically  
[34:54] said the tree is in in decline is tree number 
five on that site plan. There are three uh trees,  
[35:01] three historic oaks that are being preserved 
on the project. Property has gone through uh  
[35:07] through site plan. There was neighborhood meeting 
site plan review committee determination. It was  
[35:11] recommended for approval by planning board. 
On the first meeting commission, there was a  
[35:15] recommendation for approval. Tonight is the final 
reading before the commission. The planning board  
[35:20] did recommend approval of the project including u 
the uses the deviations subject to the resolution  
[35:27] of all outstanding SPRC comments. Commissioner 
Briley, you have any questions? Yes, sir. Um  
[35:33] Steven, the TIA, I I don't think the uses that 
are proposed here are super intensive. So, I guess  
[35:42] my question is the TI didn't show that they were 
going to have to um install any like a right turn  
[35:50] lane on US1 for for southbound for the project. 
They are doing a deceleration and they're doing  
[35:57] a uh birectional median. So, they knew about the 
bidirectional median. So, th those are the limits.  
[36:03] Um they may have a final proportionate fair share 
contribution that they required to meet. Um, but  
[36:09] those are the improvements that were required as 
part of the traffic study. Thank you. Absolutely.  
[36:15] Anyone have any other questions for Steven? No. 
Thank you, Steven. Um, do you want the applicant  
[36:21] to come up and speak because we had the applicant 
last night? Is the applicant here? Oh, yes.  
[36:25] Okay. Good evening. Steve Buzzwell with Parker 
Mynchenberg and Associates. Uh, again, thank you,  
[36:32] Steven, for the report. Um, really just here to 
answer any questions you have. Any questions for  
[36:38] the applicant? No. Thank you for being here. 
Appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, we have a a  
[36:43] motion. We have a second for approval. Uh any 
discussion you guys like to uh go around and talk  
[36:49] about? Commissioner Sargent? Yes. I spoke with a 
resident today and she was unable to attend and  
[36:55] asked if I would read her email that she sent to I 
believe everyone received it from a Robin Magleora  
[37:04] and I I just told her I would read it. So, please 
bear with me. Commissioner Sargent, I apologize  
[37:09] for sending screenshots attached, but it is uh a 
lot of information. Please accept this as a formal  
[37:17] and for the record request to table the second 
vote for this project to a for a future date  
[37:24] for reasons stated in the information. It is my 
opinion and with all due respect to Mr. Vanacore,  
[37:30] that more research is needed to prove the need 
for this facility. Please confirm receipt of this  
[37:36] email in regards Robin Magleora which I forwarded 
this email and I'll read the the screenshots but  
[37:46] I did forward this to the city clerk to include 
in the record. It just says first reading passed  
[37:51] the city commission meeting on 1 20 2026. The 
vote was 4-0 with commissioner Bradley absent.  
[37:57] The second final reading for this bill will be 
on 23 2026 at commission meeting 700 p.m. 23  
[38:06] Tuesday 22 South Beach Street. One of the reasons 
stated by the commission for approval was lack of  
[38:12] public opposition to the build. They stated that 
they did not receive emails, phone calls to of  
[38:18] opposition. Some did not see the social media post 
and comments. Commissioner Sargent question. Where  
[38:25] is the proof that Ormond Beach does not need more 
storage units built? Storage unit information. At  
[38:32] 65 to 75% occupancy, a facility will break even, 
covering operating expenses and debits services.  
[38:40] To be profitable, they must be must have 85% 
to 95% occupancy. They will raise rates on  
[38:48] current units rented to make up for the loss of 
occupancy. A well-maintained facility will run  
[38:55] a 90% occupancy with profit margins ranging from 
30 to 40%. Ormond Beach storage unit information.  
[39:05] I contacted, now mind you, this is from the 
resident, not me myself. I contacted the storage  
[39:12] units in Ormond Beach to get their statistics 
for occupancy. I was unable to get information  
[39:17] from Mr. Vanacore's builds. I was advised that 
they could not give me that information. I was  
[39:23] given a corporate phone number to contact. I left 
a voicemail for a call back and never received one  
[39:28] to date. Further attempts to call sent me to an 
automated phone system. The system disconnected  
[39:34] when I chose an option. The facility that I 
contacted are running at 40 to 85% occupancy. Most  
[39:44] are are below 80% with two possibly running at 80 
to 81% and one at 75 to 85%. Small local boat/RV  
[39:54] storage facilities that had 90 to 100% occupancy 
at one time are running within approximately 40%  
[40:03] occup occupancy. The same for small local storage 
facilities. Um, and I think I'll I'll leave it for  
[40:11] there. And this resident asked if um at the end 
of it just said I am going to request that the  
[40:19] commission table this vote to a future date. This 
will allow the commissioners to do their homework  
[40:27] to regarding the need for their facilities. Um so 
that is the end that I will read. Um, I don't know  
[40:38] if any commissioners need to table this to do more 
homework, but I asked and I read the email and I  
[40:49] will say that since we've been here, I received 
two emails. It looks like one that is in strong  
[40:57] support, another one that is not for that is 
opposing it. Um, and with that, I'll hold my  
[41:05] comments. I'll let others speak and then I'll come 
back. Mr. Mayor, sure. Commissioner Deaton, can I  
[41:12] ask a question of the applicant? Oh, sorry. After 
hearing that email. Yeah. Is this going to be a  
[41:20] traditional storage facility? As my I understand 
it, it's uh you know, we're doing the use and it's  
[41:27] going to be it has the opportunity to be offices 
with a warehouse um component to it where small  
[41:33] businesses can use it. um they're going to be um 
basically accessed um from both the north and the  
[41:41] south portion of it. So to my knowledge, they're 
not the typical mini storage warehouse um that you  
[41:49] get from other facilities. These are more of the 
outdoor business type. So this is different from  
[41:54] his other storage facilities. Okay, that was my 
question. Thank you. Sure, Commissioner Briley.
[42:03] what you're talking about. I was just going to 
say you may want to stay up there for just a  
[42:06] second. Sorry. I was looking that direction there. 
I because I do have a I just want a clarification  
[42:11] too. I heard on the first reading that the and 
I just want you to confirm for me that the the  
[42:17] frontage buildings will be more like stores and 
businesses and things like that that are along  
[42:23] US1. Correct. There are commercial/retail and 
then and there's some um storage. The industrial  
[42:30] portion is back railroad tracks in in the rear 
of the property. And that's to aimed at small  
[42:36] businesses, right? To promote small businesses 
and so trucks and build um work vehicles would  
[42:43] not be parked in your driveway. Correct. 
Those with logos and that may have issues  
[42:48] with their homeowners association have a place to 
go where they can park their vehicles, store their  
[42:54] um equipment and so forth. have a small office 
to manage their business. And I'm not sure if  
[43:00] you all have ever received any emails, but I know 
I have received multiple complaints from residents  
[43:06] um that have a neighbor that has their work truck 
or multiple work trucks in their driveway. So,  
[43:12] I think this is good and that it anticipates or 
bringing those trucks into um a proper place. So,  
[43:20] thank you. No more questions from me. 
Sure, Commissioner Briley. Thank you,  
[43:25] Steven. I don't have anything for you. So, 
okay. Thank you. Any more questions for the  
[43:29] applicants? This No, no more questions for the 
Okay, you can you can sit down. Thank you. Um  
[43:34] I can tell you from my time when we served on 
when I when I served on the planning board,  
[43:39] um we had um certain types of uses that most city 
residents wouldn't want on in town. So, they were  
[43:52] they were delegated to the I1 zoning district. 
Um, however, if you had a a a parcel with  
[44:05] acorage such as this one, it was actually allowed 
there. That type of that type of business. And
[44:15] knowing Mr. Vanacore him being here for 
a very long time most likely wouldn't  
[44:24] do that but that type of development 
is allowed by right there are a lot  
[44:28] of other developments that are 
allowed by right dollar stores  
[44:33] um certain types of he has certain uses where he 
wouldn't even have to come to this commission and  
[44:41] ask he wouldn't have to go to the planning board 
or the city commission and bill by right that's
[44:49] He could, if this was denied, I guess, 
sell the property to somebody else who  
[44:56] could come in and maybe build something 
we don't want. So, knowing how he builds,  
[45:06] I mean, the projects he's done, I'm not I'm 
comfortable with this project. I'm not sure what
[45:17] there's other there's other things out there 
that I would not be comfortable with. I'll just  
[45:21] I'll leave it at that. Thank you. Yeah. And you 
know what? I'm just going to jump in here for a  
[45:25] second because I saw some stuff, you know, I 
being under the weather, I'd spend a little  
[45:29] more time online than I like to, you know, cuz 
not much to do when you're sick. Um, you know,  
[45:35] that you're right, Commissioner Briley. You know, 
we the applicant right now he is I think it's B8  
[45:41] zoning if I'm correct. B8 Steven and under B8 he 
can build you know all kinds of different things  
[45:46] right he could build maybe a 30 40 50,000 foot 
building right freestanding building and put  
[45:51] something there and you know he can do that right 
now he just has to go to site review committee oh  
[45:56] sorry right site review committee non-commission 
approval needed is that correct Steven you know  
[46:01] Steven actually you know what if you can come up 
here you can just kind of you know uh acknowledge  
[46:06] what I'm saying here so this way we're on the 
same page so um the applicant can you know,  
[46:12] at the current zoning the way it is under B8 can 
go and just apply for give site go to state review  
[46:19] committee if you want to build a freestanding 
building for whatever the type of uses that are  
[46:22] on that B8 zoning and you know it will not come 
to the commission here. Correct. Correct. They  
[46:28] would have to do a zoning map amendment back 
to the B8 but once they're there then it is a  
[46:33] staff approval for the uses in the B8 zoning 
district. The permitted and the conditional  
[46:38] uses and then on the screen there shows it 
right there. Okay, those are some of the uses,  
[46:41] correct? Nursing home, retail sales and 
services, clubs and fraternal organization,  
[46:47] right? Things like that. I'm reading on the 
uh on the C permitted uses side now. I mean,  
[46:52] and what could happen is that and I, you know, 
I I do real estate transactions and I, you know,  
[46:56] I've been around this game a little bit. You know, 
that could eventually become a empty property,  
[47:00] right? Somebody could move in there, things might 
not work out, and now you got empty property,  
[47:04] right? And it could become blighted at some point. 
You have a lot of different uses that are going  
[47:09] to be in this new uh zone change, right? You'll 
have commercial space in the front which could be  
[47:14] a restaurant, a nail salon, hair salons, things 
like that, right? And then the rear part of the  
[47:19] property if it's called the rear part there is 
we'll have warehouse units which are not really  
[47:25] storage units. I don't know why they're called 
storage units. I mean I I know a little bit about  
[47:29] these things. So I was trying to buy one and that 
was you know an obstacle but they're also business  
[47:33] opportunities for people too. You know, people 
might, you know, somebody might want to, you know,  
[47:37] be working out of their garage or it could be 
working out of a warehouse, a storage unit,  
[47:41] you know, and they have supplies in the storage 
unit. They got a little full and now it's like,  
[47:46] you know what, I got to step up my game. I got 
to go to a bigger space, right? And this is the  
[47:50] space they're going to have. And it's also going 
to have an office inside those spaces, too, right,  
[47:54] Steven? Yes, sir. Um, so you'll have an office 
as well. So, think about your your plumbers,  
[47:58] your contractors, um, you know, people that 
services that we rely on, just so you all know,  
[48:03] right? I mean how many times we call somebody 
for services and we call 10 people and five maybe  
[48:08] call you back and three show up and maybe one 
will give you the actual job right so these are  
[48:13] services that will be provided along with business 
opportunities so I and then you think about the  
[48:18] tax roles too right we heavily rely on property 
tax right forget about the the whole property tax  
[48:23] elimination thing right we rely on on property 
taxes I talked to mayors all across the state on  
[48:29] different you know types of gatherings that we do 
and I've had mayors come up to me saying that, you  
[48:33] know, we have a high millage rate. How do we get 
the millage rate down and they live in and they  
[48:37] and their communities don't have any commercial 
business space at all and that's why their millage  
[48:42] rate is high because every most of the people 
most of the residents are homesteaded. Their  
[48:45] property values are a little lower and that's 
going to that's going to be have a reflection  
[48:48] on what your property tax rate is. This type 
of thing right here is good because that's what  
[48:52] keeps our millage rate low and that's why we have 
the second lowest millage rate in the county. So,  
[48:56] you know, think about that for a second, right? 
You're going to have services coming out of this  
[49:00] location. you're going to keep your taxes low and 
you're going to provide business opportunities for  
[49:04] people too which also might include u you know 
job openings for for individuals as well. So I  
[49:09] I you know I can understand the the frustration 
with some of the residents here on this whole  
[49:13] thing but at the end of the day we could have a 
freestanding building that might not offer as much  
[49:18] services might only be one service you know I mean 
for all you know I don't know what it could be  
[49:22] could be one service not that much staff and not 
as much property taxes either collected because  
[49:26] the property taxes are going to be assessed on 
what the value of the building is. Each one of  
[49:30] those warehouse units I was told are going to 
be sold at $300,000 each. So if they're sold at  
[49:34] $300,000 each, the assessed value is going to be 
300,000 and that's going to be the tax rate on it.  
[49:38] And there's no there's no homestead because these 
things don't get homesteaded. So I think that,  
[49:42] you know, overall I think it's a good project. 
I think it'll be good for the for the area. The  
[49:46] the the applicant went through above and beyond 
everything that you were supposed to do to make  
[49:50] sure that there wasn't going to be any flooding 
and things like that. So I mean at this point it's  
[49:54] like, you know, it's hard to say no, especially 
when they can build something else. So that's  
[49:58] my that's my comments for that. Anybody else 
want anything else? Okay. Commissioner Sargent,
[50:07] I don't need Oh, Steven. No, no question for 
Steven. I'm sorry. Thank you, Steven. Standing  
[50:11] there. There's just a few things I'd like to 
address, and I appreciate this resident taking  
[50:17] the time to make the phone calls or the trips to 
get this information, but I think we're comparing  
[50:22] apples with oranges because these are not storage 
facilities. And you know when you look at you know  
[50:29] we hear Ormond doesn't need more storage units. 
Okay. If you go down Granada how many storage  
[50:38] buildings do you see that are vacant? They're 
not up for sale. They're I I don't know they're  
[50:46] you know I believe these um occupancy rates but 
they're not out of sale or out of business. When  
[50:53] you go down Granada, you see several restaurants 
that have closed. Um, so once again, these are not  
[51:02] storage facilities. They're light industrial 
buildings for small business owners. And
[51:14] I believe competition is good with these. 
And maybe the other places need to lower  
[51:18] their rates for our residents instead of 
increasing the rates. Maybe they'll get more  
[51:24] people and their occupancy rate will go up instead 
of increasing the rates. Just a business thought.  
[51:31] Um, and I know that it came up that I think 
a during our last meeting that it was talked  
[51:38] about a strip club going in there and I saw that 
online somewhere and I don't remember anyone up  
[51:45] here referencing a strip club or a gentleman's 
club. I believe what was referenced was a and  
[51:53] can you go back one slide please? I believe thank 
you right there. I believe it was number 14 or 13  
[52:02] I'm sorry a sexual sexually orientated business 
is what was referenced not a strip club. So when  
[52:09] we talk in facts and make decisions I think it's 
important to do it in facts and it's not a storage  
[52:15] facility. It wasn't a strip club being forced. 
It was light industrial with retail upfront and  
[52:26] a sexually orientated business is what one 
that was a potential. So, I just think it's  
[52:32] important to do facts and I I think this is 
going to be a great project for uh this area  
[52:37] as the US 1 95 interchange gets redone and the 
empty lots start getting developed. You know,  
[52:50] no one's going to develop, let's just think about 
this, no one's going to develop those lots right  
[52:53] now until that's interchange is done and then 
they can bring businesses in there and that will  
[53:00] be our gateway to our community, not the storage 
facilities that everyone's saying we don't need  
[53:06] this storage facility as our gateway. Well, that's 
once again, let's talk about facts. With that,  
[53:14] I'm done. Thank you. Okay. With that said, 
you actually um what you read there about the  
[53:20] resident wanted to table this. Is there any 
any energy here to table this thing? No. No.  
[53:24] Seeing none. Okay. Any other discussion? No. 
Okay. Well, we have a motion on the floor for  
[53:31] approval and we have a second. I don't believe 
you have a motion. Oh, we don't. I thought we  
[53:34] had a motion for move approval. Okay. Second. We 
already have one. Oh, did we? Yeah. Second. No,  
[53:42] I'm not. Sargent and Tolland. I'm sorry. My 
Okay. All right. With that said, we just verify  
[53:48] we have the motion in a second. Uh, city clerk, 
please call the vote. Commissioner Deaton, yes.  
[53:52] Commissioner Briley, yes. Commissioner Tolland, 
yes. Commissioner Sargent, yes. Mayor Leslie, yes.
[54:03] Okay. Well, city clerk, please read the 
legal title 8B, ordinance number 2026-02.
[54:13] Ordinance number 2026-02, an ordinance amending 
chapter 2, District and General Regulations,  
[54:20] article 2, District Regulation Section 2-39, 
affordable housing of the Ormond Beach Land  
[54:27] Development Code to update the section 
based on Senate Bill 17:30 for expanded  
[54:33] applicability to planned developments permitted 
in the area zoned for commercial, industrial,  
[54:39] or mixed use and parking requirement reductions, 
repealing all inconsistent ordinances or parts  
[54:45] thereof providing for severability and 
setting forth an effective date. This is  
[54:49] the second reading of ordinance number 2026-02 
read by title only. Move approval. Second. Um,  
[54:58] Commissioner Briley was absent in the 
last meeting. Do you want me to have  
[55:01] Steven Spraker come up and just talk about the 
item? If you would briefly. Okay. Thank you.
[55:09] Good evening. Steven Spraker, planning director 
with the city. So, uh, the Live Local Act was  
[55:14] enacted in 2023, requires jurisdictions to, um, 
allow uses, uh, for affordable housing regarding  
[55:24] height, density, and permitted by staff approval. 
In the last legislative session, there was Senate  
[55:30] Bill SE 1730. It expanded the live local act to 
plan developments for commercial, industrial,  
[55:37] and mixed use zonings. It also requires reduction 
of parking within a/4 mile of a transit stop. Our  
[55:44] code already has multimodal um corridors that that 
has a a reduction. Quarter mile is a little larger  
[55:51] than what we allow, but it's similar. Um so these 
are required state improvements that are now being  
[55:56] integrated into the city's land development code. 
The planning board recommended approval and staff  
[56:01] is also recommending approval. Any questions for 
Steven? No, sir. That was my understanding. So,  
[56:05] thank you. Okay, great. Thank you, 
Steven. Okay, I don't have any cards. Uh,  
[56:10] second reading here. Uh, any other discussion 
from the commission? No. Okay. City clerk,  
[56:15] please call the vote. Commissioner Briley, yes. 
Commissioner Tolland, yes. Commissioner Sargent,  
[56:19] yes. Commissioner Deaton, yes. Mayor Leslie, 
yes. I will now close the public hearings. Uh,  
[56:28] city clerk, can you please read legal 
title 9A, resolution number 2026-15?  
[56:34] Resolution number 2026-15, a resolution appointing 
a trustee to serve on the firefighters pension  
[56:41] trust fund board setting forth terms and 
conditions of service and setting forth  
[56:46] an effective date. This is resolution number 
2026-15 read by title only. Is there a motion  
[56:52] for approval? Move approval. Second. Okay. 
Um I could have the city clerk speak on the  
[56:58] item if any want her to speak about it. 
Seeing none. Okay. You got the free pass  
[57:04] right now. Um I don't have any cards here. No 
other deliberation. So with that, city clerk,  
[57:10] please call the vote. Well, we need to nominate 
somebody. Correct. Uh correct. This is Oh. Oh,  
[57:16] you know what? You're right. That wasn't in my 
cheat sheet. Mr. Mayor, I I'll nominate um Mr.  
[57:22] John Long. Mr. Can you say that again? John Long. 
Okay. Second. I'd like to nominate William Medlin.
[57:37] Okay. So, let me just go here. So, any you want to 
Is there a second for William Medlin? Okay. Seeing  
[57:45] none, I only have a first and second for John 
Wong. So, a motion fails on the on your motion.  
[57:52] Okay. Any other discussion then? Okay. City clerk, 
please call the vote. Commissioner Tolland, yes.  
[58:00] Commissioner Sargent, yes. Commissioner Deaton, 
yes. Commissioner Briley, yes. Mayor Leslie, yes.
[58:12] Okay. Uh, city clerk, please read a legal title 
9B, resolution number 2026-16. Resolution number  
[58:20] 2026-16, a resolution appointing a member to the 
planning board, setting forth terms and conditions  
[58:26] of service, and setting forth an effective date. 
This is resolution number 2026-16 read by title  
[58:33] only. Move approval. Second. Second. Okay. This 
is uh the mayor's appointed uh person. I nominated  
[58:41] Amber Bobak. So um you know I already made the 
nomination on that. So uh if there's no any no  
[58:49] other objections to it, um I think we could just 
call a vote, right, Randy? Sorry, I didn't mean to  
[58:55] do that to you. Yeah. Yes, sir. Okay. Okay. Call 
vote, please. City clerk. Commissioner Sargent?  
[59:06] Yes. Commissioner Deaton? Yes. Commissioner 
Briley? Yes. Commissioner Tolland? Yes. Mayor  
[59:11] Leslie? Yes. And just real quick, is Amber here? 
Amber, congratulations. Well deserved and serve  
[59:19] us well. I know you will. Okay, we're going to 
move on to uh uh staff and commission report,  
[59:28] suggestions, and request starting with well, the 
city manager is not here today, so we'll start  
[59:33] with assistant city manager Claire Whitley. Hi, 
good evening. Just a couple of announcements. Um  
[59:39] Florida Department of Transportation has installed 
the last of the three pedestrian crossings on  
[59:44] Granada. I believe the last one was the one on the 
east side of Granada across um from the shopping  
[59:52] centers. And so those are all there to increase 
pedestrian safety. Hopefully you've seen people  
[59:58] using them. I know the one across from the chamber 
I've seen activated quite often. Um movies on the  
[1:00:05] Halifax this week is Pride and Prejudice on 
February 6 at 5:30. Reel in the fun fishing  
[1:00:11] tournament is scheduled for Saturday, February 
14th at 8:00 a.m. at Central Park 1. And the great  
[1:00:20] backyard bird count at the EDC is on Saturday, 
February 14th from 9 to 2. Any questions? Any  
[1:00:28] other questions for Assistant City Manager Claire 
Whitley? Thank you. No, thank you, Claire. Uh,  
[1:00:34] assistant city manager Shawn Finley. I just want 
to kind of brag about our utility department here.  
[1:00:40] Uh, we had some cold weather over the weekend and 
and being that we're not used to freezes and cold  
[1:00:45] weather, we uh sometimes don't know that we can 
how we can handle it. Um, just for some numbers,  
[1:00:51] we received 91 calls to our water department over 
the weekend. On Sunday, every single one of our  
[1:00:57] staff member was staff members was out there 
addressing those concerns. Um, majority of them  
[1:01:03] were backflow preventers. Those those raised 
um portions of the water of the water service  
[1:01:09] that you see sticking out of the ground. A lot of 
those were frozen. That was the really the biggest  
[1:01:14] call that we got. We did have three water main 
breaks that that occurred on Monday. Two 2 in,  
[1:01:19] one 6 in. And what I'm most proud is that our 
water distribution guys were able to make those  
[1:01:24] fixes all what we call a hot condition where the 
pressure remained on the system. There was no  
[1:01:30] outage. There is no need to do a boil water. 
Those guys are those guys are great. And so,  
[1:01:35] um, they they really step up like they do on every 
day. So, I'm taking this as an opportunity to brag  
[1:01:39] on them. So, but thank you all for and have a good 
night. Thank you for that, assistant city manager  
[1:01:45] Shawn Finley. I know that we see I see Bob back 
there from utilities. Bob, thank you. And anybody  
[1:01:50] else here from utilities? No. But Bob, make sure 
you let your staff know thank you for everything  
[1:01:54] you do. Do a great job. And uh, it just goes to 
show how important our utilities are. you know,  
[1:01:59] to uh to the to the community. Um uh city attorney 
Randy Hayes. No, sir. Thank you. And good night.  
[1:02:06] Okay. Have a good night. And like I said, Joyce 
is not here. I know she's listening online. So,  
[1:02:11] uh get well, Joyce, and everything will be taken 
care of. And we'll see you when you get back.  
[1:02:15] Uh with that, we'll begin our evening with uh 
Commissioner Briley. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll be  
[1:02:20] very brief. I just like to uh welcome uh Captain 
DW Smith back. You look great. Glad you're here  
[1:02:27] with us this evening. and uh our city attorney, 
Randy Hayes. Welcome back. You're looking great.  
[1:02:34] That Mr. Mayor, I'll say good night. Thank 
you. Good night. Um Commissioner Tolland,  
[1:02:41] Deputy Mayor. Yep. Thank you. Uh first, I do have 
a request. I'm wondering if staff wouldn't mind  
[1:02:47] reaching out to resident Marsha Blew regarding 
the airport. She had some questions. If we did the  
[1:02:55] we're not discussing the airport extension, but if 
we did, would that change the B2 level? If someone  
[1:03:01] would mind reaching out to her and just talking to 
her about the airport. Yes, we can provide her all  
[1:03:06] that information. I would appreciate it. Thank 
you. Um, I do want to congratulate our chamber.  
[1:03:11] They had their annual installation and awards 
and congratulations to all the incoming um folks  
[1:03:17] and great job with the outgoing folks. Um I was 
also attended the um the firefighters banquet the  
[1:03:27] uh fire uh Ormond Beach fire department's banquet 
and they celebrated all the good men and women  
[1:03:33] uh that performed exemplary work and their whole 
their whole department performs exemplary and I'm  
[1:03:41] very proud of them and it was it was a fun 
banquet. um also able which just is for the  
[1:03:47] residents that we were able to uh represent you 
at um Florida League of City's legislative action  
[1:03:55] days. Oh, I didn't know Marsha was here. 
I'm sorry. So, you'll be talking to staff.  
[1:04:00] You're still here. Um Florida legislation action 
days. Um we advocated for a couple priorities,  
[1:04:08] infrastructure type priorities for the city um 
with our legislature. So, I was um honored to  
[1:04:15] be able to go up there and represent you as well. 
Um I also had the opportunity, it was kind of fun,  
[1:04:22] uh was asked to read to some kindergarteners at 
Pine Trail Elementary for literacy week. And you  
[1:04:28] know, you forget about why you do this and how fun 
it is. Um you know, we always see adult residents,  
[1:04:35] but it's it's the kids that really um bring joy 
to your heart. And I enjoyed that opportunity.  
[1:04:42] Um, also congratulations to the fire pension 
board and the planning board nominee. Amber,  
[1:04:48] I know you're here. And I'm just going to say a 
couple things to to all the appointees in their  
[1:04:54] advisory thing. And my advice to you is take 
your appointment and I'm going to speak to  
[1:05:00] you directly, but it's to any anybody and in 
any advisory position. Take your appointment  
[1:05:06] seriously. Be prepared for your meetings. 
Participate with meaning. You don't have to  
[1:05:13] just talk to talk. Make it meaningful. Listen 
carefully to what people say, particularly  
[1:05:19] the residents. Always go into a meeting with an 
open mind and willing to learn and um know that  
[1:05:27] you're appreciated. So, that would be my advice to 
anybody that's on any of our advisory boards. It's  
[1:05:34] um it's a it's a privilege to serve and I think a 
lot of us started out serving on advisory boards  
[1:05:41] and you learn a whole lot about the city when 
you're when you're doing those things. And um  
[1:05:47] with that, I'm going to say good night. Good night 
uh Commissioner Sargent. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  
[1:05:55] Um thank you public works. Appreciate that. The 
firefighter banquet. Sorry I could not attend. Um,  
[1:06:03] thank you all for representing us there. Um, I'd 
also like to say a special thank you to PD, Fire,  
[1:06:10] the Sheriff's Office for responding to Temple 
Beth-el last week during the bomb threat. You  
[1:06:17] know, and it's not real easy when you have kids 
that go there and you get a call from your wife  
[1:06:21] that um there's been a bomb threat. Um, but man, 
is it reassuring to know that they respond within  
[1:06:28] less than a minute. I think all hands were on deck 
doing the sweep. You know, it really puts you at  
[1:06:35] ease and um we just got to realize that there's no 
place for this hate in our society. Zero place for  
[1:06:43] it. Doesn't need to be tolerated. And thank you 
to the sheriff's department who were able to track  
[1:06:50] this person down, I believe, down by Main Street 
and took him into custody within 30 minutes,  
[1:06:57] an hour of this incident happening. Um, thankfully 
no one was harmed obviously at the school. Um,  
[1:07:04] but then the following day they got two more 
threats that were very nasty that were emails,  
[1:07:11] you know, and of course they were traced to some 
far far away place. But it's just really a shame  
[1:07:16] the hate that people have for whether it's 
um color, religion, whatever it may be. We  
[1:07:25] need to rise up above that. We're better than 
that. And uh it's just very disturbing. But I  
[1:07:31] am very thankful for the sheriff's department, 
police, fire, and everyone that responded. Um,
[1:07:40] I also know that we put our names, a lot of us 
put our names on the petition that's going out for  
[1:07:47] uh the the residents to vote on toilet to 
tap. What I would like to propose, if if this  
[1:07:57] commission is okay with it, is for us to have a 
workshop to discuss and have staff provide us data  
[1:08:05] with our water quality. What are we doing? Um, 
explain the wells in Ormond Beach, the re reser  
[1:08:12] uh reverse osmosis that we do in Ormond. just 
really give us a high level because it's it's  
[1:08:19] real easy to jump on and say, "Hey, we want to ban 
this and ban that." And you know, I think we need  
[1:08:25] more information. Obviously, none of us want to 
drink toilet to tap water. I think that's probably  
[1:08:32] I can't speak for everyone, but I know I don't. 
But I think it's important for us to maybe better  
[1:08:39] understand it before we make certain decisions 
on it. So, I don't know if everyone up here is  
[1:08:46] willing to maybe direct staff for a workshop on 
water and um kind of outline that, but I think  
[1:08:53] that would be just something that I would like to 
know what you all think on it. So, you're really  
[1:08:57] looking for just an education on how our water is 
and what we do. Correct. Correct. Is that really  
[1:09:04] a a workshop or is that is that a presentation 
maybe from Shawn at a commission meeting? We  
[1:09:10] could do that as well. Um what is uh Shawn what do 
you think about it? What's your opinion? I think  
[1:09:17] we can cover a lot of those topics in a pretty 
short with a pretty short discussion item. Um we  
[1:09:22] are in the process of work reworking our utility 
master plan which would be something at a later  
[1:09:27] date that we would do a workshop on it. Um but I 
I think that a a more that's a little bit further  
[1:09:33] down the line. So I think that we could we can 
come up with something in a little bit shorter  
[1:09:36] order here and do a presentation. um get with the 
I I'll get with each of you individually and make  
[1:09:42] sure that we're covering the things that you want 
want answers to and and if there's things that  
[1:09:45] you want to learn more about, I'm happy to happy 
to get that information provided to you because  
[1:09:49] I think it just would benefit all. I would like a 
presentation so our community can hear it as well,  
[1:09:55] not just one-on- ones. Well, I think that I 
think that you were talking about No, I didn't  
[1:09:59] mean one-on- ones with you. I get with you each 
individually to get the topics you'd like for  
[1:10:04] us to bring for our presentation at the commission 
meeting if if that works for you. Thank you. Okay,  
[1:10:08] I I can hear him, too. Thank you. All right. So, 
uh basically what you're saying is that um you  
[1:10:14] can meet us individually so we know what we want 
to talk what you we want you to talk about and do  
[1:10:19] in a presentation. How much time do you think it 
would take you to to be able to do something like  
[1:10:23] this? Can we can we have this in the agenda in 
the next maybe month or two? I I'd say our next  
[1:10:28] meeting is February 17. Shoot for the March 3rd. 
If if that works and if that's not too late or  
[1:10:34] if you want we can we can put pressure on it and 
get it get something for you for for next meeting.  
[1:10:38] March 3rd is perfect with me. March 3rd. Everybody 
else. Okay. I think it's fine. I just think May  
[1:10:44] I speak for one quick second? Sure. Mayor, I 
just think it's, you know, um Mr Finley, you're  
[1:10:50] probably not aware. We're getting a lot of emails 
with misinformation and um we need to understand  
[1:10:58] just as much as the residents. So I think even 
a high level where we're at well you know and  
[1:11:05] we'll talk individually but yeah I think it need 
we don't need to get into all the the details of  
[1:11:09] all that but high level and and that was the main 
reason for asking you know if you've got emails if  
[1:11:16] you've got questions that you're getting from your 
resident from the residents that you want to make  
[1:11:20] sure that we address we'll make sure I don't want 
to I don't want to cover nine out of 10 things we  
[1:11:25] want to make sure we cover everything that that 
that you'all have questions about. So, fair  
[1:11:29] enough. And I would just like to say reach out to 
family, friends, loved ones, and check in on them.  
[1:11:37] You never know, you might save a life. With that, 
good night, Commissioner Deaton. Thank you. Um,  
[1:11:44] well, I'll move past. I was able to read to the 
kindergarteners as well at Pathways Elementary,  
[1:11:49] and that was quite the experience. Um, but it 
was good. And the We've attended a bunch of  
[1:11:55] events. Nobody needs to go over all of it. We 
attended a bunch. They were all great. Okay. I  
[1:11:59] had a meeting with Lucy Jackman at the Performing 
Arts Center last week. They are needing some help  
[1:12:03] promoting the pac as a professional theater, but 
with community involvement, not necessarily as a  
[1:12:09] community theater. They have all of the higher 
grade lighting and sound that they have highly  
[1:12:14] invested in and are trying to get bigger artists. 
The pack is providing a 10% employee discount for  
[1:12:19] the upcoming performance of the Ultimate Gar and 
Shaniah Tribute Show on Saturday, March 14th.  
[1:12:25] So, if anybody who works for the city would like 
to go, she's giving 10% off. Um, I did get with  
[1:12:32] um Mary Margaret Kelly so we can try to get Brian 
Kelly and they are working on that to try to get  
[1:12:37] our hometown guy here for a concert at the pack. 
Not sure if it'll work out, but we put them in  
[1:12:42] contact. If anyone has any other ideas on how 
to sell more tickets and get bigger performers,  
[1:12:46] I'd love to get them back to Lucy. Have we 
asked Jen to help out with at that? I did. Okay.  
[1:12:55] Um, any other ideas of how to get No, not 
seeing any. Okay, moving on. Unfortunately,  
[1:13:03] we didn't get the racing and wreck grant that 
we needed for the lighting on fields 11 and 12  
[1:13:07] for safety. There was an incident on these fields 
this past weekend that involved a lot of police  
[1:13:12] presence. With that being said, I'm proposing the 
following and would love to have the feedback of  
[1:13:16] my fellow commissioners. I feel that we need to 
take the funds from the recreation fees income  
[1:13:20] to get lighting on fields 11 and 12. They are 
moving flag football there from the Wendlestep  
[1:13:24] fields. So, this is going to be imperative with 
the incident this weekend. Pey didn't necessarily  
[1:13:29] know where to go right away and they were headed 
to the wrong field. We need to remove the Palmetto  
[1:13:34] underbrush for better visibility, leaving the 
trees of course, and add additional signage  
[1:13:38] for fields 11 and 12. And I'd like to get your 
input on that. Safety is really huge. And if our  
[1:13:46] if if our first responders cannot get and find a 
field, so we only have the fields labeled on like  
[1:13:54] the fence like it used to be or are there real 
raw word Robert K left? Um there is signage but  
[1:14:02] it wasn't I guess maybe Chief Godfrey can maybe 
speak to what the confusion was with the officers  
[1:14:08] going to the field. So maybe I'm sorry signage 
isn't on the road. It isn't on the road. So,  
[1:14:14] we need to get the signage on the road. And they 
were having problems with the underbrush being  
[1:14:18] able to see where the field was because there's so 
much palmetto under. That's a no-brainer. I mean,  
[1:14:22] you have to have signage. I think a lot of this 
could be could be solved with wayfinding signage  
[1:14:26] out there because there's almost none. Okay. 
So, we could maybe direct. We'd like to see for  
[1:14:33] safety reasons uh we need to see the underbrush 
cleared out and the trees kept. Yeah. And what  
[1:14:38] are you asking about with uh the lighting? Okay. 
So, we had what was it a couple of meetings ago?  
[1:14:44] We requested a grant for the wreck and the wreck 
and racing grant so we could get the the lighting  
[1:14:47] at least matched for the the lighting on those 
two fields. They don't have any lighting on those  
[1:14:52] two fields. We didn't get it. We weren't in the 
top seven. So, um I was speaking to Doug Thomas  
[1:14:58] who is not here at the moment, but he suggested 
possibly taking the funds from the recreation fees  
[1:15:02] income to get lighting on those two fields. Do we 
So, there's no lighting or are we just converting  
[1:15:07] it to LED? I need to get more information. 
There's no lighting on those two fields. Uh,  
[1:15:12] Robert's not here. Uh, Alex, shaking your head. 
Is that correct? So, could we just get some more  
[1:15:17] information and bring it back? Maybe ask Robert 
what that would look like financially, you know,  
[1:15:23] and how much Absolutely. We've already started 
that discussion with uh our finance director,  
[1:15:29] Kelly. So, we'll bring that information back to 
you. Okay, that's great. Yeah, I just couldn't  
[1:15:32] make a decision right now. Absolutely. But that 
was something that he would like us to look into,  
[1:15:37] so I figured I'd bring it up. Um, that is all I 
have. Have a good night. Thank you. Have a good  
[1:15:42] night. Um, I will echo the commissioners on some 
of the things that was discussed just now. I mean,  
[1:15:48] we did a lot of events together. Um, I also got 
to read to uh some young kids, first graders.  
[1:15:53] It was really interesting. I haven't read to a 
first grader in I don't remember how long. Um,  
[1:15:57] but that was really a lot of fun. Um, we had our 
legislative days um in Tallahassee. That was very  
[1:16:03] interesting. Got to learn a little bit more about 
what's going on in Tallahassee. As you may know,  
[1:16:08] this is the last uh session for the governor. 
So, a lot of moving parts happening and a lot  
[1:16:13] of things going on. Uh but it was a good learning 
experience for us. Um we had a chance to talk to  
[1:16:17] our delegates about our city's priorities for two 
projects that we'd like to get funded. Um I think  
[1:16:23] that the consensus was that, you know, everyone 
seemed to be okay with it, but by the time it  
[1:16:27] gets to the governor's desk, that could be another 
story, but we're hoping for the best on that one.  
[1:16:32] Um attended the firefighters banquet. Great job 
by the fire department. There's some fire guys  
[1:16:38] over there. Uh it was the second annual uh really 
great job and it's really nice to recognize the uh  
[1:16:43] fire department for everything they do. Uh great 
group of people. Um you know police department  
[1:16:49] too. I mean you know what happened the other day 
at Temple Beth-el. I mean I saw the the message  
[1:16:54] and I'm like oh you know and then within short 
time you know they already captured the person.  
[1:16:59] So that was really good. And that's what that's 
what I love about the police department. We have a  
[1:17:03] great police department and you know that's one of 
the things I talk to residents about when we talk  
[1:17:07] about our our property taxes. It's like we got 
the second lowest milit rate in the county and we  
[1:17:12] still have a great police department and we have 
great services and that's that's the investment  
[1:17:16] that we get in our community. So we pay property 
taxes. It's an investment and that investment is  
[1:17:22] money well spent with our first responders. So 
thank you to the first responders for everything  
[1:17:26] they do. Um the last thing I want to talk about 
too is that we have um you know this is election  
[1:17:32] year. hear a lot of things going on with that. And 
so I just want to just kind of point out that, you  
[1:17:36] know, everyone out there just to try to be mindful 
if you're um a candidate for office about just  
[1:17:43] um being careful about, you know, what you're 
going to post on your campaign page um versus  
[1:17:48] what you do with uh things in your position that 
you're in. Um, I remember meeting General Flynn  
[1:17:53] about two years ago and I wanted to do a picture 
with him and I was a candidate and he knew I was  
[1:17:56] a candidate and he wouldn't take the picture 
with me because he's like, "No, I don't want  
[1:17:59] you to post it because then it'll look like an 
endorsement or something like that." So, just be  
[1:18:03] mindful of that because, you know, uh, some people 
might not like it. Just ask, you know, permission,  
[1:18:08] you know, before you do things like that. Um, 
but other than that though, uh, good luck to  
[1:18:12] all everybody out there and, uh, be safe, be well, 
and with that, I'm going to adjourn the meeting.