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So, we're recording cuz the video is not
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then we'll put the audio
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Um call to order at 6 40.
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» Is that correct?
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» Okay, 5:38 sounds good, too.

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» Roll call.
Mayor Allen.

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» Here.
>> Daniel.

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» Here.
>> Cathy Gable is

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» is absent.
>> Jared.

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» Here.
>> Carl.

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» Here.
>> And Jamie

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» is absent.
>> And I'm in attendance as well.

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» All right, Kurt.

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I make a motion we
approve the agenda.

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» Second.

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» I don't think we Is there anything to
add, walk-on items? Speak up.

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All in favor signify by saying aye.
>> Aye.

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» Aye.
>> Approved.

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Regular meeting minutes of July 28th.
Are in the packet.

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I didn't see anything was Look forward
to the update on the grant.

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I make a motion we approve the July
28th, 2026 meeting minutes.

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» Second.

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» No discussion. All those in favor
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» Aye.
>> Aye.

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» Approved.
No public hearings.

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Old business, small town grant.
>> Old business, just to let everybody know

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I did uh
write a grant working with Cain and

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Melissa
uh Ryland and then you can see the list

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of people here.
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Joy Burtsinger, and Rosemary Van Houten
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benches. Uh they
nine new park benches and is a Smith

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Small Town Grant. Was submitted August
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mid-September if we get that or not.
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matching, so if we do get it, the city
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okay through everybody.
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And the my letters
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» Yep, and we got two
two letters of support.

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» Right.
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» Joy was asking, I thought I
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directed at like conclusion and
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» Perfect.
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to EDA, so this is our development
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park Outlaw A. So, one thing that's been
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um landscape-wise, we have
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amount that we would pay Stantec
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to sell into lots.
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would have to go through. First, I've
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uh about it, and the first thing that we
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can see number one, research past DNR
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That's going to cost roughly $4,000. And
just a reminder, this money would be

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paid back to the city upon the sale of
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» The third
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Um this is he he's fine with that.
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he said if the city council has any
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information.
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minus.
Did he indicate anything like that or

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» Yeah.
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don't know if we need a motion to do
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$3,977 because we don't have a budget
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uh to move on with this because I know
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is to have the research have them
research the

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DNR city code compliance. Would that be
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» Yeah, so I I'll make a motion that we
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the $3,977

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um
to do the DNR or at very minimum

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recommend that we budget for it for next
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» Okay.
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workshops right now, too, so
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council as well. Okay, so Dan made a
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» Okay.
And then you need a vote.

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Ron, do you start the vote?
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whether we can do this or
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» Right. And I think that's the big thing
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this could money could be not coming
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abundantly clear that this could if it
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» There's risk, but at the same time the
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It's not like it's going to be a void.
It's going to get tell us one thing or

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the other, so.
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» Question, why is the DNR involved up on
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» What's that?
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» Why is it a question? You're You're on
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or an open
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» Is it close to the river?
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» Is it close to the river up there?
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» It's
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» Cuz it's this property here.
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» Aren't there houses between that lot and
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» Yeah, two sets of houses.
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already there
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was planning to do this,
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» It's a good question.
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So we're going to pay Joe $4,000 to ask
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I I'm just I mean I'm asking a question.
So we're paying $4,000 to ask a

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question?
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covers the environmental study of this.
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So but my question is is the country
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here what do we even have to do this?
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» And the answer be yes or no and then
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» Before you spend the money, but if you
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ahead said all the money's already
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» So why do we need DNR?
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with two sets of houses pretty much
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everything. The
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flood plain or if it starts at the
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if it would be those houses would be in
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» Well, they they could have
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a a
a drain field in the flood plain.

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Number two is a drain field would never
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plain.

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you know, the size of the lots kind of
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drain field the size of the lots that
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» Well, I just I just a a question on my I
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» So so again again my question is if you
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do it then can we get get this money
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uh 22 hours the whole I make a phone
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person says no.
Is there a recourse in getting some

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money back?
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» Yeah.
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research this?
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» Yeah, and that might be a fee for the
DNR, too. That might not be uh

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» So is it a flat rate no matter what is
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would be paid four times
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whatever their hourly rate is for that.
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» So I was going to suggest in the motion
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» Up to
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» Because it may come in blue lower hours,
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to answer your guys' questions, yeah.
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» Yeah, I think
>> make that would make sense to me that if

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there was less money that they don't get
the whole contract.

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» And these are estimates as well, so
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river is 413 ft. So it's within the
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» So at least some of those would be
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» That uh
We pay up to up to that amount, correct?

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» Mhm.
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» So essentially it it seems like and I
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the wording of this
uh per main and design to determine how

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outlet A was incorporated in the
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question kind of, right?
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» Was there any discussion around that
last time? Or I mean, here we are.

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» We I thought we already had him evaluate
this and tell us that

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yes, we can move forward with it.
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» need the DNR
>> legally with um

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Mike Flaherty.
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» So from legal standpoint, because the
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And so he did he did that for quite a
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And because we got the okay from Mike
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engineering side of it. And that's where
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But no he's agreed.
So he's to join.

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» those are questions that if you want to
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we can still move forward with the
motion and if he wants to address those

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reasonable.
>> At the council meeting?

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» At the council meeting.
>> Okay, great.

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» I think he can have some time to
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» So I'll respond to that.
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Joe to so he's prepared to discuss it.
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questions tomorrow.
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All right, all if there's no other
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by saying aye.
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» Aye.
>> It's approved.

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» All right, great.
I'll get that in and I'll I will

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when I hear something back, I will BCC
everybody on an email.

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If that's all right.

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» All right, moving on to new business
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This is something that I don't know if
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So, I've been looking at the
comprehensive plan because in our last

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meeting we kind of made a point say
what if we look at the comprehensive

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plan and update it
rather than get a new comprehensive

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plan. I believe that was what we
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I started update it

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and I used
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I got from the fact that now the city
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first part.
You know, so I did

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I did a community profile so you can see

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the introduction. You can see under here
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profile. 1.1 introduction just tells
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uh Orinoco. So, there's not a lot there
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I can change that as we go. Early
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change.
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the city government,
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households,
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development, and services and utilities.
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profiles, the population since basically
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» Right.
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here is going to be population,
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economic development,
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I don't know how you want to do this

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Ryland but
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you take a look at it
I don't know if you want to take the

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time in EDA meeting to revise this here.
You take it, look at it and then we can

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come back at our next meeting
and if you have any changes that you

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feel could should go into it from what I
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>> Yep.

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» Starting at 1.4.
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» Bottom of the second to the last page
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» is where we start with the current. I
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thought it was very well done. I
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households
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» Mhm.
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What and then what I'll do in the next
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I'll look at the next section. I don't
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it just needs to be a lot. I think it
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just do population.
>> Do whatever you can I guess.

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» And so if I could have EDA
kind of peruse what I've written and if

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you see something you want to add on
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let me know and then when we we come to
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have a look at it.
>> Right.

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» I know it's homework. Sorry.
>> It's not homework anymore.

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» So let's take a look see.
>> Yeah, I think that's why cuz

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I think Kathy and Jamie would be good to
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» And I can send an email to remind people
>> Just kind of stick a look see. If you

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don't see anything, it don't doesn't,
you know, stand out, that's that's

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great. If you see something that stands
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» And this was pulled from the 2006 one
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» And then we have
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going to be the when it deals with
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» Yeah.
>> up though.

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» But ours is
>> not putting every ordinance in because

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of certain things.
>> I didn't realize the subdivision

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ordinances were written in 2004.

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It's in the old part of it.
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Where is that at?

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» So, it looks like the overall
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just just over 43 pages.
So, are we looking at just taking a

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chunk at a time?
>> Yeah.

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» Oh, that's that's that's
>> Yeah, let's see.

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» No, no, I cuz I get so
I got cross-eyed when they're in the

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some of the zoning and stuff.
>> at dimensional demographic

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characteristics and you start looking at
that, it's like,

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» Yeah.

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» Yeah, so if you could just read
community profile what I wrote there,

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and then just kind of read through it.
If you want to compare it to what's

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original is, that's in here as well.
And anything that pops up to you as

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residents of Orland that'd be great.
>> Okay.

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» Believe I have that.
>> So,

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» Um
>> Go ahead. Sorry.

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» Go ahead. Sure.
>> Uh I think I pulled this up prior to the

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meeting, and I'm not sure if these maybe
I need to pull it up on a computer but

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this looks like a hyperlink. I'm not
sure the hyperlink had anything

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it didn't respond to my tap.
>> Oh, it didn't?

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» I don't think so on my on my phone
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» I didn't
>> I didn't even try it.

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» Okay.
>> Just wanted to let you know I'll check

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that.
>> Yeah.

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» I'll verify and

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» So they need

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» If that's a hyperlink then just make
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wanting to go.
>> Mhm.

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» The one under the 1.3 section city
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um
and that's

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really the second big paragraph but
development in the community is

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currently guided by comprehensive zoning
ordinance adopted 1989.

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The first zoning ordinance was adopted
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and updated in 1986 to guide
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In 1994,
city adopted a subdivision ordinance to

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place constraints on new subdivision in
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ordinance in 2001.

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I thought that was
kind of interesting how this all

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developed.
>> Yeah.

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And the population's changing over the
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since you put it in it's going to change
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I think can you say Wylie or one of the
fastest growing communities in the

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state?
>> It was one of the top 10.

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» Which is pretty impressive because
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» 17. 17, yeah.

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I can't find that. I may have I a copy
of that article, too.

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» Yeah, so I will contact Joe.
And then once I hear back from him, I

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will let everybody on the EDA know. And
then once I get that

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squared away, I'll write a memo for When
is the next

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council meeting?
>> Oh, that's a good question because

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I may be on vacation.

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Leave on the September 26th.

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Or
>> Where you going?

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» Uh it's a river cruise on the Danube
River from Budapest to Passau.

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» Yeah.
>> Eight days, so yeah.

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» Just like the Vikings.
>> What's that?

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» Just like the Vikings.
>> Vikings, yeah.

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» Or
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I'll
We leave on that Saturday, the 26th, so

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should be good.

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I'll be back October 4th, Sunday night.

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» All right, so we'll read through this
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Read through it. Anything sticks sticks
out to you that

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you want to tell me to add? You know,
just take a little note and bring it

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with you to the next meeting.
Add it in there.

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» I like the references, too.
>> Yeah, it's good to have references.

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» Really appreciate you taking that on,
too.

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» Yeah, that's no problem. It's
interesting to do. Well, I'm not going

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to lie, some of it's interesting.

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Some of it is not, but that's all right.

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I'll get the hyperlinks going.
>> You know your natural environment in

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there?
>> It was my understanding to the Orinoco.

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» So here.
Here, the oral local park is working out

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with DNR to write access to the river. I
thought that

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right down between the body shop and
up here at the ferry head

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public access
to the river right here.

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» Is that the original or is this the one
that was rewritten?

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» Oh, no, they're written at 1.5. You
missed that or what you what you got

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written here is that
he's working with DNR to provide proof

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to prove access.
>> Okay.

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» To to prove it should be approved.
I thought that access was already there.

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» We have
write it

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write it on there and bring it with you.
>> Okay.

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Cuz someone stopped
on Saturday where they want to go

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canoeing and they want to know about
Boulder Dam.

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And I thought the guy that does the
lights

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whatever at Boulder Dam, I knew that.
And he rents canoes.

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And I said if it shows there it's that
access

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just down by that corner building just
down there there is a

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roadway there that DNR has access to to
the river right there to my

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understanding correct.
>> Right, yeah.

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» That's what I told him. I said, "Why
don't you see the guy down there? I

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think he rents canoes."
>> Yeah. But he's closed now because of low

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water.
>> Okay, well, that that might be but I

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just when they asked me about Boulder
Dam, I said, "Power Dam?" He said, "No,

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Boulder Dam." Well, I said, "Boulder Dam
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» Reno, yeah, yeah.
>> would be the guy down there then if

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that's where you're going.
Finally, he drove down there so you ask

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him cuz that's where But I do know there
is a supposed to be a public access

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there for that.

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» Okay.
Yeah, stuff like that.

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» Okay.
>> Be great.

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And you said that this is this the
what's in here is what you

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» modified.
>> Yeah.

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» Perfect. So it starts off with the
original.

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It's under community profile. That's all
Basically copied and pasted from the

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comprehensive plan.
And the community profile starting at

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1.4 has been pulled as what you wrote
data from.

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» So, just getting back to the sentence
that Jenner was talking about,

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the Iron Knot Park Committee is working
with DNR

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to prove
Is that to provide access?

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And there is.

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So, is it
>> The public has access to the DNR.

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» That's where you started or in the
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» at 1.4. So, demographic characteristics,
yep.

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» 1
>> 1.41 talks about the population.

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» Yep.
>> Yep. Cool.

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» And it says they're updated starting at
1.4.

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» Perfect.
>> Okay.

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» I'll take a look-see.
I'm not going to hurt my feelings.

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» Something real wrong,
that's for sure.

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» So, if I read the population statistics
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» Over 2,000 now, huh?
All right.

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» We've been approaching it for a while, I
think.

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» That's great.

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» That's an estimate because it's We
haven't done consensus, but it's a

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estimate based on
>> Yeah.

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» Somebody's estimate.

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» Well, are you wanting us to
take this home and read it and get back

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to you, I guess?
>> Yeah. Just give it a scan through,

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something points out.
The next meeting, what I'll What I'll do

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is we'll We'll look at it, just review
it very briefly.

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» What needs to be added, take out what
needs to be taken out.

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» And then I'll put another section out
there for you to look at for the next

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month. Perfect. So, we're not taking
time out of the meeting to appreciate

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that.
Thank you.

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We'll get through it. We'll all become
knowledgeable of it.

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So, if they ask you a question, you're
like, "No, actually that's wrong. I read

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the comprehensive plan."
Through 1.7, okay.

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Thanks.
Yes, so 1.4 through 1.7.

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Well, thanks Kurt for kicking this off.
We'll see how it goes and

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We'll see if and if if there's a lot
that needs to be added, maybe it's

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something we say you need to get done,
but not An interesting stat, and I'll

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I'll mark it down and bring it next
time. I don't think I see it in here and

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I'm not sure if you have access to it,
but especially with the growing concern

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over rental properties in Rochester, as
a percentage, I would gather the

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percentage is very low. You know, that
could be an interesting stat if we're

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able to
get it.

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Owner-occupied versus
you know, like investment or whatever

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the
terms might be that would be searchable

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and findable.
There's one Non-homestead tax status

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that it would would be something we
probably could find. Lake Shady is very

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is a big one, too.
It should be very low. Yeah, or no cuz

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like you said. Yeah.
I'm only aware of two rental properties.

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One is on Minnesota Avenue. It's down
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And the other one is over on the corner
of First Street Northwest and Lake Shady

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Avenue.
You get a little

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curve and off to the right, there's two
buildings and those are rental

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properties.

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There was another one just short of
further west and maybe in a row, but I

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don't I'm not sure if anybody's living
there now.

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» Thanks for joining.
>> Yeah.

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» All eyes on Kurt.

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All right. Um
if there's no other walk-on items,

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» I'll make a motion to adjourn.
>> Sure.

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» And
six

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» Oh, six.
I'll second that. All in favor say

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"Aye."
>> Aye.

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» Aye.

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» Well, we're adjourned now, but uh
curious how if there's a