1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:21,020 I'd like to call to the August 24 meeting on the orange and select list to water, begin with a roll call vote, again to my right, Allen Elken here. Mark Apteno. 2 00:00:21,020 --> 00:00:23,260 I'm Alan Snell here. 3 00:00:23,700 --> 00:00:24,480 First Officer, President. 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:25,800 Michael Curtis, president. 5 00:00:26,940 --> 00:00:29,560 I want to ask everyone to rise to the close of leadership. 6 00:00:42,100 --> 00:00:43,300 One nation. 7 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,420 One nation. 8 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:44,940 One nation. 9 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:06,840 One nation. 10 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:10,340 One nation. 11 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:22,180 One nation. 12 00:01:22,180 --> 00:01:26,860 of the inaugural Allen Snell Sportsmanship Award member. 13 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,920 We'd like to recognize you for that recognition. 14 00:01:32,940 --> 00:01:33,860 Well, thank you very much. 15 00:01:34,020 --> 00:01:35,660 I'm kind of surprised, but a nice one. 16 00:01:35,980 --> 00:01:36,140 Yep. 17 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:36,960 A nice one. 18 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,200 Well deserved. 19 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,040 Well deserved. 20 00:01:40,420 --> 00:01:40,880 Very well deserved. 21 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:48,480 You got something you're doing when you're hanging around with me. 22 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:48,860 Yeah. 23 00:01:52,390 --> 00:01:54,670 You're giving up money for a building, 24 00:01:54,670 --> 00:01:57,190 so they just get you to hold up there. 25 00:01:57,190 --> 00:01:59,570 And that might be the noise in the building. 26 00:02:05,170 --> 00:02:05,910 Public call, men 27 00:02:10,490 --> 00:02:11,730 crash pick up adjustments. 28 00:02:12,390 --> 00:02:16,210 Number one, Florida's to 5'16 to be on Friday. 29 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,020 So brutal late road, talking with the new contract, 30 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,680 the way that brutal late road and the snow's corner 31 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,920 and the way the schedule works, they 32 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:33,100 would like to adjust the lower end of brutal late road 33 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:34,640 to be picked up on Thursday. 34 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,040 It's, they come down, snow is corner, and then kind of cross-bots and head out to the lake 35 00:02:43,940 --> 00:02:49,480 on Thursday, and then they would like to do that other end of rural Lake Root on Friday. 36 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,620 The first half coming out of Root, and then they'll turn down bogs and go up Johnsonville. 37 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:06,820 They're learning their root, they have had some hiccups along the way, but they resolved 38 00:03:06,820 --> 00:03:07,640 all their issues. 39 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:09,120 They're very happy with them. 40 00:03:09,740 --> 00:03:18,100 This is the only thing they're asking is to make that adjustment to that small section 41 00:03:18,100 --> 00:03:22,700 of rural acreage, kind of doing it the last couple of weeks. 42 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:27,140 All right, so it 43 00:03:30,150 --> 00:03:33,710 makes sense and whatever works, but that breaks and everything I mean, that's... 44 00:03:34,250 --> 00:03:36,850 As long as they're really settling down and they're getting... 45 00:03:38,710 --> 00:03:39,710 They're getting it. 46 00:03:39,790 --> 00:03:43,550 There's a lot of little dirt roads and what they're learning. 47 00:03:44,370 --> 00:03:47,030 You know, Rocky Shore is always the learning curve. 48 00:03:48,410 --> 00:03:49,410 You know, when do we pick it up? 49 00:03:49,550 --> 00:03:50,070 When do we go? 50 00:03:50,250 --> 00:03:51,610 How far down do we go? 51 00:03:51,610 --> 00:03:56,410 and so I can't go too far because you can't turn around. 52 00:03:56,710 --> 00:03:58,150 I'll get you some really down there. 53 00:04:00,020 --> 00:04:02,420 I think we got it worked out and you know, 54 00:04:02,500 --> 00:04:05,500 they rotated a couple of drivers in to learn the route. 55 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:08,460 Okay, you've got a question. 56 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,720 Just a public comment after this trash discussion. 57 00:04:14,180 --> 00:04:14,460 All right. 58 00:04:15,580 --> 00:04:17,200 Anything else on the trash? 59 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:18,980 Yes. 60 00:04:18,980 --> 00:04:22,580 How would they notify people that their day is changing? 61 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:28,310 I'm going to write a letter this week to let them know. 62 00:04:28,510 --> 00:04:28,950 Addresses. 63 00:04:29,290 --> 00:04:31,090 Yeah, and 64 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,420 put it in the U.S. Postal Service. 65 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,140 Sorry. 66 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:40,760 Well, we have better option. 67 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,620 Well, you have to pick them up and deliver them for us. 68 00:04:46,380 --> 00:04:46,760 Pay them. 69 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:50,360 Pay them what we pay with postal service. 70 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,380 Give me the exact same amount of money. 71 00:04:52,540 --> 00:04:52,660 Yeah. 72 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,400 Okay. 73 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:54,320 Seven dollars. 74 00:04:55,820 --> 00:04:57,140 I think it's in the board. 75 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,240 I have been told that 76 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:07,420 Postal Service should be picking out now that 77 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,480 Amazon has pulled back a lot of their work from them. 78 00:05:12,820 --> 00:05:16,440 Apparently they were doing a lot of their carrying 79 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,360 but now Amazon is building their own buildings. 80 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:18,840 Yeah. 81 00:05:19,660 --> 00:05:20,760 I don't care about them. 82 00:05:21,660 --> 00:05:22,420 They're drones. 83 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:47,120 Just wanted to give an update on the boat landing project last Tuesday we had pre-bid 84 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,420 meeting for any interested contractors. 85 00:05:52,180 --> 00:06:00,880 We had five different contractors attend after presentation and providing them with some 86 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:11,360 updated documents we went to the site and we hit it probably ten minutes after low tide 87 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:20,020 So give them, give them a good opportunity to see what the site looks like at low tide conditions, and 88 00:06:20,020 --> 00:06:30,020 walk around the site, answer a few questions, Alan went with me, any comments? 89 00:06:31,540 --> 00:06:33,340 A lot of interest? 90 00:06:34,100 --> 00:06:34,700 Good question. 91 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:38,120 I'm curious who showed up for that. 92 00:06:40,060 --> 00:06:41,200 I've got the list. 93 00:06:43,580 --> 00:06:48,900 Those actually are the list of additional contractors 94 00:06:48,900 --> 00:06:51,200 that we sent, known as altitude. 95 00:06:52,900 --> 00:06:55,060 So there's the five iron on here? 96 00:06:55,460 --> 00:06:55,580 No. 97 00:06:56,420 --> 00:07:00,300 The additional ones, earth works. 98 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,680 I had the list in its home 99 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:11,000 and I was going to bring the copy, distribute it with more sergeants, and 100 00:07:13,180 --> 00:07:13,860 I can't recall. 101 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,220 Maynard was in Maynard's work. 102 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:20,260 Maynard's work. Maynard was in Maynard's work. 103 00:07:21,970 --> 00:07:24,930 Who's the brewer guy? 104 00:07:25,970 --> 00:07:28,090 And we did have a paving on it. 105 00:07:34,330 --> 00:07:43,730 and then we had one individual from a paving company that was interested and he was the 106 00:07:43,730 --> 00:07:51,890 one party that was interested in going out to the East Oriented Business Park to look 107 00:07:51,890 --> 00:07:58,070 at the available rocks that are rip wrapped that's available for the project. 108 00:07:59,190 --> 00:08:08,630 So subsequent to that, I sent out emails to those parties that are listed on that sheet. 109 00:08:10,330 --> 00:08:18,770 They were listed by the main DOT as approved for marine projects. 110 00:08:18,770 --> 00:08:23,990 We've gotten a response back from one party, Proc. 111 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:24,730 Proc Marine? 112 00:08:25,110 --> 00:08:25,210 Yeah. 113 00:08:25,290 --> 00:08:25,670 Proc Marine. 114 00:08:26,030 --> 00:08:37,850 And they said it's more of a Earth-moving project, and they built their docks, and there's 115 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:47,590 another party on that band-crunk contract, which the email listing for that gets a kickback 116 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:49,430 on male, 117 00:08:51,830 --> 00:08:57,550 undilatable. They still had a bruise. So I don't know. I'm not sure if it requires 118 00:08:57,550 --> 00:09:04,050 it to be issued from a different male box, other than for me, but it could kick back. 119 00:09:04,370 --> 00:09:11,870 And a website, museum, air, actual, for contact information, send it here. 120 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:23,640 I mean Wednesday is the deadline for written questions to be submitted if they have any 121 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:37,300 regarding their RFP September 4th is a date that we have to respond to those written 122 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:44,920 questions September 14th. Bids are due by September 10th 4pm. 123 00:09:47,060 --> 00:09:48,840 The select board meeting 124 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:58,700 of September 14th is when we will open and receive bids and September 18th is a date 125 00:09:58,700 --> 00:10:05,920 which is a Friday that we expect, hopefully to be in a position to respond to the 126 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:12,260 bidders and select a linking bidder. So that's the timeline. 127 00:10:14,910 --> 00:10:16,470 We did receive Army 128 00:10:16,470 --> 00:10:18,950 Corps of Engineer Permit, the 129 00:10:22,660 --> 00:10:29,140 pro offering of the permit, and we thought that 130 00:10:29,140 --> 00:10:30,320 that was going to be straightforward, 131 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,700 but they have a different date 132 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,320 from what the main DEP approved for the in water work. 133 00:10:39,020 --> 00:10:40,900 Time period, which was supposed to be November 134 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,420 to, we've asked for an extension to April 30th. 135 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:49,740 So November through April 30th 136 00:10:49,740 --> 00:10:51,580 is when you can do in water work. 137 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,680 The Army Corps of Engineers permit that they offered said 138 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:10,640 we had to complete the work by April 24th, 26th, so we've blown that into date for a permit 139 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:20,500 that was issued last week, and they also, they cut back on what the DP had approved as 140 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:29,800 an in-water work period. So we've got to figure out who has jurisdiction. Probably the Army Corps, 141 00:11:32,460 --> 00:11:39,680 whoever has the most cloud, but we also have to square away the date that allows us to do the work 142 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:51,660 next people. It's what the cotton pace got missed. Happened all the time. And we also had 143 00:11:51,660 --> 00:12:00,980 started the Department of Ags Conservation and Forestry. They had a deadline date for addressing 144 00:12:00,980 --> 00:12:10,840 submerged lands issue and we missed the fact that they in February of this year they said we had to 145 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,300 to ask for an extension or complete the submittal 146 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,320 by May 4th of 2025. 147 00:12:18,540 --> 00:12:21,440 So we blew that deadline, 148 00:12:21,980 --> 00:12:24,540 because it was already at 2026. 149 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,760 So our engineers have re-submitted 150 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,100 the submerged land permit or cost 151 00:12:32,100 --> 00:12:35,680 and a legal statement regarding the fact 152 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:39,240 that we believe we own the land from high tide 153 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:48,960 to low tide and it's not owned by some other unknown party or a party that wrote the 154 00:12:48,960 --> 00:13:00,420 D 1928. So we still have a few things worked out but we're moving forward. So that's 155 00:13:00,420 --> 00:13:03,680 where I'm wearing this don't tread on me. It's a t-shirt. 156 00:13:07,150 --> 00:13:09,830 It's been fun interesting. 157 00:13:09,830 --> 00:13:18,330 Hopefully, we'll get some bids and we'll be in a position to square up these issues because 158 00:13:18,330 --> 00:13:26,370 I already told the contract this last Tuesday that the in-water work is squid until April 159 00:13:26,370 --> 00:13:28,350 30 of the next two years. 160 00:13:31,230 --> 00:13:31,430 Sure. 161 00:13:31,590 --> 00:13:32,210 Let me take it out. 162 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:33,770 Bruce. 163 00:13:34,190 --> 00:13:34,470 Yeah. 164 00:13:34,530 --> 00:13:35,890 Just a comment and a question. 165 00:13:35,890 --> 00:13:42,210 not always, but typically Army Corps will trump the DEP. They'll carry the day, usually. 166 00:13:42,850 --> 00:13:48,690 The question they have are the contractors, were they made aware of the budget limitation? 167 00:13:49,850 --> 00:13:58,090 No, they were not. They were provided the bit listing with all the materials that 168 00:13:58,090 --> 00:14:06,130 Jacobs had identified as being necessary for the project, and it would require them to 169 00:14:06,130 --> 00:14:13,410 put in the unit prices that they were going to be charging the project that resulted in 170 00:14:13,410 --> 00:14:18,050 the total bid that was part of the work. 171 00:14:19,310 --> 00:14:26,590 I imagine if the bid has come in high, I mean, obviously, it can't award it. 172 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:34,250 Right, well we don't have any obligations to make the decision on September 18th. 173 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:36,990 We have the right to reject all bids. 174 00:14:37,790 --> 00:14:39,530 And we'll have a few other questions. 175 00:14:39,750 --> 00:14:40,390 The reason to reject. 176 00:14:41,610 --> 00:14:42,210 We have limited. 177 00:14:42,350 --> 00:14:44,350 We have limited amount of money to work with. 178 00:14:44,530 --> 00:14:44,710 Right. 179 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:48,220 Yeah. 180 00:14:48,340 --> 00:14:51,160 What would be fortunate to get something within budget I think. 181 00:14:51,940 --> 00:14:52,360 I hope we do. 182 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:59,960 So we certainly are anxious to be able to award a contract so that the end of the 183 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,900 What a work can be done in that November through April, whatever date is selected window, so on. But as they say time will tell. Yes, so. That's for sure. Does that include the big package that went out? Does that include all the parking lot, all of that, that's the full? Yes. Yes. Yeah, the provision, the upper parking, the facilities with the holding tank and the solar lights. 184 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:34,680 and some modifications to the mid-level small parking lot 185 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:41,220 that require a vegetative buffer to be placed down 186 00:15:41,220 --> 00:15:43,140 the gradient of that parking lot. 187 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:49,160 Plus, we informed the Nop Scott River Patlin Trail folks 188 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,680 that their current site with their privy and their path 189 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:59,120 to the picnic tables will be impacted by the future parking 190 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:09,380 lot. So then you're going indoors. Yes. And we offer to help them look at our site and see 191 00:16:09,380 --> 00:16:16,080 if they can find an area that's not too close to the public grounds because one thing they'd like to 192 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:25,760 have is a primitive campsite for their one night pitching up their tent. So where that might be, we don't 193 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:36,180 No, but we'll work with them or adjacent property owners to see if they can find a suitable area, and we will go from there. 194 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,500 So a lot happened now in the next month or so. 195 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:46,250 We'll see how the permit language sorts out. 196 00:16:54,770 --> 00:17:08,370 I think the big thing with the intertidal was getting that opinion to do the submerged 197 00:17:08,370 --> 00:17:18,400 land permit was I thought was going to be the biggest challenge bar in the last six 198 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:27,710 years. The state was unclear whether we own the land, and we didn't own the land in 199 00:17:27,710 --> 00:17:37,750 the state yet, and so whether we applied, as I saw in the state owners, it shouldn't 200 00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:45,470 you know, but they were not budgeted and needed, you know, this opinion, a title, a 201 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:54,030 opinion it was. It didn't make sense, but. Right. From colonial times, if a 202 00:17:54,030 --> 00:18:07,730 dean says that a boundary runs on by a river, that means low tide, that the 203 00:18:07,730 --> 00:18:17,670 stakes at on the land, and that was placed, I think, in the deed in 1928-29, and I think 204 00:18:17,670 --> 00:18:24,150 it was just to identify when the city of Brewer acquired the property for their use as 205 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:32,890 a gravel pit that they want to know where the shoreline was at, 1929, they didn't worry about 206 00:18:32,890 --> 00:18:42,110 high astronomical tides or things like that, but for, you know, since the 1700s, a property 207 00:18:42,110 --> 00:18:49,370 owner owns to the low tide line, if it uses certain terms and phrases on and by the water 208 00:18:49,370 --> 00:18:55,830 means, you know, the water extends to the low tide and, you know, that's the boundary. 209 00:18:55,830 --> 00:19:01,830 If you mention that I missed it did they accept that it's the intertile is ours to the 210 00:19:01,830 --> 00:19:09,790 move to that that legal submittal was was just offered today because that's the 211 00:19:09,790 --> 00:19:16,850 one that supposedly we had to have an answer by May 4th of 2025 when they 212 00:19:16,850 --> 00:19:20,710 You should have let it to us in February of 2026. 213 00:19:21,730 --> 00:19:25,530 And my editing skills failed to note that, you know, 214 00:19:25,650 --> 00:19:27,610 said 2025 for the deadlines. 215 00:19:28,130 --> 00:19:30,250 Otherwise we would have flagged it earlier. 216 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:34,410 But I think we did when we had a telephone conference call 217 00:19:34,410 --> 00:19:37,530 with the Department of Acts, folks, we said, you know, 218 00:19:37,670 --> 00:19:42,570 securing surveyors to survey a new boundary 219 00:19:42,570 --> 00:19:50,110 foundry that goes to the low, low tide line is challenging that we can 220 00:19:50,110 --> 00:19:56,470 pursue either tidying opinions or some other means methods. 221 00:19:56,730 --> 00:20:01,750 They wouldn't accept just a town attorney's statement that required, you know, 222 00:20:01,910 --> 00:20:06,070 someone that's in the business by the end of the surveys. 223 00:20:10,590 --> 00:20:12,690 The question, another question, 224 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,760 I think, I 225 00:20:21,050 --> 00:20:23,650 don't find who would select the word meaning 226 00:20:23,650 --> 00:20:27,430 minutes of August 10, 2026, or the motion. 227 00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:27,890 Some will. 228 00:20:28,490 --> 00:20:31,090 The motion might, so I'll say that. 229 00:20:31,570 --> 00:20:40,090 I think that by Chris, the first one, I wasn't any discussion, I was in favor, I was zero, 230 00:20:58,020 --> 00:21:00,540 I'm going to make all the business, and I'm 231 00:21:04,660 --> 00:21:06,960 going to sign a certificate of settlement 232 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:14,640 for Cali Colburn on outstanding real estate taxes committed in 2025, but I'm going to 233 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,360 for that. 234 00:21:15,820 --> 00:21:16,400 Yep. 235 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,000 Second. 236 00:21:18,740 --> 00:21:19,340 Second. 237 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,220 Second. 238 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:20,540 Second by. 239 00:21:21,740 --> 00:21:21,880 Am I? 240 00:21:22,220 --> 00:21:22,480 Yep. 241 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:22,960 Mark. 242 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:23,760 Okay. 243 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:24,620 Any discussions? 244 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,400 All in favor? 245 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:28,140 I do. 246 00:21:30,490 --> 00:21:31,190 I do. 247 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:31,230 I do. 248 00:21:31,890 --> 00:21:32,190 Discussion. 249 00:21:32,350 --> 00:21:32,610 I do. 250 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:33,110 I do. 251 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:33,450 I do. 252 00:21:33,450 --> 00:21:33,730 Discussion. 253 00:21:34,350 --> 00:21:34,950 Discussion. 254 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:35,650 I do. 255 00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:36,390 I do. 256 00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:36,610 I do. 257 00:21:37,150 --> 00:21:40,110 to be located behind the pond on River Pond. 258 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:45,160 That's right in front of me. 259 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:45,960 Yep. 260 00:21:46,420 --> 00:21:46,780 I've agreed. 261 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:50,600 Dick Campbell is here. 262 00:21:51,940 --> 00:21:54,840 He's been working on this, his design, 263 00:21:57,100 --> 00:22:00,720 which turned this part of the floor, meaning over to him, 264 00:22:00,980 --> 00:22:03,420 and this guy's what he's been doing, 265 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,740 and answer any questions? 266 00:22:09,710 --> 00:22:11,270 Just Campbell, he'll have the floor. 267 00:22:11,910 --> 00:22:12,750 Thank you, sir. 268 00:22:14,030 --> 00:22:19,530 My name is Dick Campbell and a few of us have been working on 269 00:22:19,530 --> 00:22:25,130 not quite as diligently as Pat on a Duba Freeman. 270 00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:32,180 He's a Duba Freeman writer and his own party beer 271 00:22:32,180 --> 00:22:33,960 and lands 272 00:22:38,090 --> 00:22:39,130 for you. 273 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,700 On three sides. 274 00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:02,970 All right. 275 00:23:03,170 --> 00:23:03,910 Yep. 276 00:23:04,910 --> 00:23:05,790 Okay. 277 00:23:05,790 --> 00:23:06,050 OK. 278 00:23:07,710 --> 00:23:14,910 So soupade has come up with what we think might be a good bronze 279 00:23:16,130 --> 00:23:22,250 monument statue, and we've been pricing that. 280 00:23:24,450 --> 00:23:27,370 And we've gotten in terms of the statue itself. 281 00:23:27,610 --> 00:23:32,630 We've gotten prices from 300,000 to about 12,000. 282 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:39,190 So, Japanese can do a lot cheaper than our local islands as a spread. 283 00:23:39,770 --> 00:23:49,070 So, we're looking at this form of figure in either a six foot high or a five foot high. 284 00:23:49,610 --> 00:24:00,890 Five foot is more realistic but in many cases bronze statues get bigger to give the illusion of its significance. 285 00:24:01,670 --> 00:24:09,830 So on the second page, or the first page of the drawings, I marked the 286 00:24:13,420 --> 00:24:15,920 plot of land 287 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:28,580 which we own as a town, and I thought quite odd, but the pound is 25% on the land, the 288 00:24:28,580 --> 00:24:30,100 rest of it's on the right away. 289 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:51,600 So what the thought would be, and I have talked with Evan Epic and Chris from Epic, about 290 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,780 maybe using him. 291 00:25:01,730 --> 00:25:10,950 I'm using that entrance, which I understand they want to improve, so a couple of thoughts. 292 00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:19,570 My original thought was to come in to the entrance and go parallel on the back line 293 00:25:19,570 --> 00:25:26,250 of town property but in fact somebody mentioned that we might want to go 294 00:25:26,250 --> 00:25:33,270 perpendicular to be able to see what's coming in both directions who knows how 295 00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:40,650 much activity is going to be in that parking area or park but the other thought 296 00:25:40,650 --> 00:25:51,150 that I've heard is that Epic would like to lose a fence back and improve that entrance. 297 00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:58,110 So if that's the case, a perpendicular maybe at the existing point of fence lines that 298 00:25:58,110 --> 00:26:01,470 chain link fence might be a point. 299 00:26:03,010 --> 00:26:09,990 I haven't been out in the back to find out what size parking lot would become the ultimate 300 00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:13,730 a destination for the office building parking, 301 00:26:14,330 --> 00:26:17,530 which is somewhere under the sketch 302 00:26:17,530 --> 00:26:20,890 of the broad statue on this plane. 303 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:27,350 In terms of surface, not suggesting 304 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:30,550 that an asphalt surface necessary 305 00:26:30,550 --> 00:26:34,050 through quarter of three-eighths inch minus 306 00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:38,900 which is a granite, ledge product packed, 307 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:46,360 pretty hard and makes a very good surface which cost a lot less. The thought would 308 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:56,360 be to go into this area you can barely see this line but if you can see the 309 00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:03,640 back southern point of the property and a new fence line maybe a boy fence that 310 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:12,400 mark here. If you continue down to the right away there's a little which piece of 311 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:22,240 land that might be good to get from epic whether it's a deed or an 312 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:28,580 easement because as you as you look down closer to the road there are four 313 00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:38,780 major oak trees that would be nice to keep and then selectively keep the deciduous trees 314 00:27:39,250 --> 00:27:47,640 on the park area which would then extend over to woods, maybe the new property line. 315 00:27:47,640 --> 00:28:01,300 There's an awful lot of old field pines which start branching low that are this big around. 316 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:09,100 So those pines probably would be nice to get removed and just open it up and leave the 317 00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:20,620 the sinuous trees for cover and what I've done is located if in fact we have the option 318 00:28:20,620 --> 00:28:34,200 to use that property inside the three major oak trees would place the statue in a park 319 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:44,640 sign just outside the now presently owned town property, beside the pound. So as you're 320 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:51,180 driving by, the pound is fairly significant as you come up the hill but beyond that it 321 00:28:51,180 --> 00:29:00,420 would open up and look into this five or six foot bronze statue on a rock. When we did the 322 00:29:00,420 --> 00:29:08,660 Chamber of Freedom Park. We've got flame to just deliver some big slabs of rocks. 323 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:15,580 If you remember the slave, which is over the shaft, that was oral tradition, it was 324 00:29:15,580 --> 00:29:28,000 a high watermark of the flake to freedom. There's a major stone, probably two feet thick and quite large. 325 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:37,000 So I put that up so if any traffic came down it wouldn't clean out the slave on top of the shaft. 326 00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:41,100 So get something like that to put the bronze on. 327 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:46,260 And then also you can see a bronze plaque. 328 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:56,060 Get your ice, or the final thing, they just put a big plaque about a ice harvest thing on the brew of a walkway. 329 00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:59,960 There's something like that on a more verticals. 330 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:24,100 So, that kind of directly behind the pound, and then sprinkle some picnic tables throughout the area. The other thought is maybe you just take down the growth and chip it to make that the surface instead of getting into a lot of grass and loam and heavy maintenance. 331 00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:30,990 So, that's kind of the thought at this point. 332 00:30:30,990 --> 00:30:36,850 And that's what I've done to work with, 333 00:30:39,460 --> 00:30:47,080 basically, the bottom you can see when I come up with a concept for your consideration. 334 00:30:49,380 --> 00:31:01,770 So whatever you pleasure, we consider continuing this to a point where I can talk with the town and epic 335 00:31:01,770 --> 00:31:09,190 to see if the option to pick up that piece of pie would be available. 336 00:31:10,170 --> 00:31:21,330 And from there, if it's your pleasure and the new epic would allow, then we pursue estimates 337 00:31:21,330 --> 00:31:25,090 and then come back to you for that. 338 00:31:25,090 --> 00:31:33,010 So, I've talked to Evan both about the property and potential fundraising options to do. 339 00:31:35,710 --> 00:31:40,270 We'll come back to you with both estimates and a plan for fundraising. 340 00:31:44,620 --> 00:31:47,220 I think I pretty much covered some thoughts. 341 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,420 Have you worked with my brain to shut off? 342 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,180 Who is the lady who brought that? 343 00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:15,920 Sorry, my brain was shut up, so you guys, yeah, that's kind of another topic, and I'm going to get on to the OT and signage, so maybe I go on to that next, 344 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,180 so Pat's been running on top of this, it's just really wonderful. 345 00:32:27,180 --> 00:32:38,400 So, I've been talking to the DOT, both the Bangalore office and Agassad, and I just came 346 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:48,780 upon the person who will be in the position of the finalizing signage throughout the state 347 00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:56,520 who is retiring and moving on and something, so the community person coming in, but the 348 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:06,300 The question that I had of them was signage in right away, and the conclusion I got was 349 00:33:06,790 --> 00:33:12,960 four by four wooden posts are considered breakaway, so they could be within the right 350 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,280 away. 351 00:33:16,540 --> 00:33:24,960 My most recent was a message to the lady who wasn't there today and concludes her position 352 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:32,260 tomorrow, but we'll find out. The breakaway option for having these signs in the right 353 00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:42,780 away instead of way back. And the thought is to see if we can relocate the landing sign 354 00:33:42,780 --> 00:33:53,720 back in front of the telephone pole and anything else from the zoo signage at the 355 00:33:53,720 --> 00:34:03,300 field where she headed up to Switzerland and maybe down at the waste station and 356 00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:08,600 thought it had been maybe put upon there or something we could have a larger 357 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:18,100 your side with more of the story, and then have something also where she headed up through 358 00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:21,960 Johnson Mill and out to Switzerland. 359 00:34:22,940 --> 00:34:29,000 And then we've got two four by fours in North, Oregon, right at the top of Brough Hill 360 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:40,200 that you know might have another rendition of maybe the statute or the story of something. 361 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:54,560 The 4x6, if you turn it to where the 4-inch is the majority travel of the, that's the 362 00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:04,460 break the weight. And what is? Yeah. And then if you go six by six, you have to drill holes 363 00:35:04,460 --> 00:35:13,520 on one inch hole every eight inches or a three quarter inch hole. There's a way to make it a 364 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:21,260 break the weight by using, if you want to use a six by six, I think a four by six is plenty bigger 365 00:35:21,260 --> 00:35:29,400 And as long as you turn it so it's, it's four inches the way it needs to break. 366 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:35,460 Yeah, but all my forwards that we have on the signs now seem to be okay, but yeah, that's great. 367 00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:36,420 Yeah. 368 00:35:44,110 --> 00:35:49,450 Chris, would this type of project be eligible for TIFF funds? 369 00:35:49,450 --> 00:35:58,930 or is it different categories such as it, the science would be, the park would be, 370 00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:05,210 oh it would be, okay. Yeah it's, the recreational stuff is 371 00:36:05,210 --> 00:36:13,370 typical, the line for better work. Is this something that Public Works could do 372 00:36:13,370 --> 00:36:14,530 some of the earth work on? 373 00:36:16,750 --> 00:36:22,610 I think so. I think back to the roadway epic will 374 00:36:22,610 --> 00:36:28,270 give us an easement, whatever we want, to the pilot sheet. They won't be 375 00:36:28,270 --> 00:36:32,850 that over to us because that roadway is already permitted and the road 376 00:36:32,850 --> 00:36:39,230 open is permitted and we don't want to go through that. It's also permitted to be 377 00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:40,430 underneath the high tension. 378 00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:48,910 So, we would be well advised to keep it in that thick and just go with some easement 379 00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:51,590 or 99-year lease or whatever. 380 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:54,270 So, there are more than willing to do whatever. 381 00:36:56,370 --> 00:37:02,190 There has to be the selective cut in what you've done here as far as keeping that buffer 382 00:37:02,190 --> 00:37:04,230 from the facility in the public. 383 00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:06,530 So, but we talked about that, you know. 384 00:37:09,090 --> 00:37:10,710 So the only 385 00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:24,810 question or comment I have is to, if we do go forward with the Azuba Statue, 386 00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:30,570 I really like it down in South Orange and down, you know, if we do that fire bond and have 387 00:37:30,570 --> 00:37:39,890 a park that needed to have that a zoo per park in South London, and have this be more geared 388 00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:42,530 towards the pound, the history of the pound, and do I know? 389 00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:50,450 That's mildly, you know, thank you. 390 00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:54,800 But I'll take it anywhere. 391 00:37:58,090 --> 00:38:00,410 But Christopher, what's the likelihood that D.O. 392 00:38:00,410 --> 00:38:05,630 Which is going to give us any ability to work with self-right to lead us that way. 393 00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:18,110 The DOT permission would be just coming in through the way station is what I'm working 394 00:38:18,110 --> 00:38:18,470 with. 395 00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:27,750 It's a Larry Pelleteer property that Larry certainly could give us the permission to come 396 00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:37,850 in an access step on through his front yard, the DOT at the south end of the 397 00:38:37,850 --> 00:38:46,070 waste station is what I would consider effectively the path of least resistance. 398 00:38:47,130 --> 00:38:50,450 Going through DOT is definitely the path of most resistance. 399 00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:56,050 But the way getting traffic control and coming in that way, 400 00:38:56,050 --> 00:39:04,770 that we could come in through the wave station, that would be, you know, so that's the 401 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,720 long answer to that, that if they do give it to us, it would only be for, you know, 402 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:21,620 access industry that we could still have the pawn, the five pawn and the part, you know, 403 00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:23,460 on Larry's property. 404 00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:24,040 And 405 00:39:27,460 --> 00:39:31,240 all this stuff was going to end up being managed by conservation in the end, right? 406 00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:32,900 Whatever gets built. 407 00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:38,240 I would say giving 408 00:39:40,610 --> 00:39:44,050 the over to you everything that we have in the area of the Strasnau 409 00:39:44,050 --> 00:39:44,750 probably. 410 00:39:44,830 --> 00:39:54,070 Yeah, I think public work would do the mowing and what not, but it would be cool 411 00:39:56,340 --> 00:39:56,880 to have something 412 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,720 done around the pond. 413 00:39:58,460 --> 00:39:58,880 The pond. 414 00:40:00,020 --> 00:40:03,500 Which would get more visibility? I would assume the pound would get more visibility. 415 00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:05,060 What it is? 416 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:11,780 I mean, the idea of having them, if we're going to put a firepond in down there, then why not make it apart? 417 00:40:12,020 --> 00:40:15,200 That's the only idea. There's a lot of visibility down there. 418 00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:17,220 There are all the teams. Let's be open. 419 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:20,640 That might be kind of cool. 420 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,780 When the second question did you ever come up to the pound? 421 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,540 Did she stay in the Southern? 422 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,200 She had four goats. 423 00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:33,940 July of, did she run us past the pound? 424 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,240 No. 425 00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:36,080 She definitely didn't run us past the pound. 426 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,480 No, yeah. 427 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:38,280 She went up. 428 00:40:39,060 --> 00:40:42,980 Yeah, that's on the side of where she did her thing. 429 00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:45,080 Yeah, that was a good neighborhood. 430 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:45,720 It was smart. 431 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:46,600 Yeah. 432 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:47,120 Yeah. 433 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,480 Well, it would be, I mean, it's not necessarily a bad spot. 434 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,400 It's a good spot. 435 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,460 but I think South-Arton would be putting some focus 436 00:40:56,460 --> 00:40:58,540 in South-Arton would be kind of cool, but yeah. 437 00:40:59,740 --> 00:41:02,080 But doing something at the pound, I think, 438 00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:03,020 is a grand idea. 439 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,060 Yeah, there's no part in that at the pound. 440 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,480 Yeah, it would be nice to have the pound be something. 441 00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:15,600 Yep, and it's not a need to roar. 442 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,300 It's maybe we can do it. 443 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:17,900 Yeah. 444 00:41:25,420 --> 00:41:29,040 If you're interested, I'll pursue it, if you're not at home. 445 00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:30,020 Sounds amazing. 446 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,660 There's interest in it for sure, and I'll tell you something. 447 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,820 So I need to vote for you. 448 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:42,440 I want to make a motion. 449 00:41:42,820 --> 00:41:43,860 Go ahead. 450 00:41:43,860 --> 00:41:49,640 I would move that we pursue plans for remodeling the panel. 451 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:51,300 Second. 452 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,120 Thank you. 453 00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:53,020 Motion by Alan. 454 00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:54,020 Second by Mike. 455 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:54,680 And discussion. 456 00:41:55,740 --> 00:41:57,700 I assume it has been sufficient discussion. 457 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,500 How was in favor? 458 00:41:59,260 --> 00:42:00,720 Five, zero, go for it. 459 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:01,040 Thank you. 460 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:01,980 Thank you. 461 00:42:06,340 --> 00:42:06,740 Okay. 462 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,860 I don't. 463 00:42:08,620 --> 00:42:09,200 Stanley. 464 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,180 Complete. 465 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:10,860 I'm in love. 466 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,100 Discussing an overview on the Greenfield Trust. 467 00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:20,460 family attacking T.L. through the mediation project on the grounds of the public 468 00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:26,780 doing an observation day with UN Bill in the schedule of Wednesday, August 26, to 469 00:42:26,780 --> 00:42:32,540 the end of the 26th, early 30th, or early 30th, the orange is being together. This is a 470 00:42:32,540 --> 00:42:36,940 draw in session in the UN Bill's possible hash-staff and engineering on-site 471 00:42:53,250 --> 00:43:02,530 So, this project has been ongoing, the river, perhaps a river of intermediates and trusts. 472 00:43:02,530 --> 00:43:11,790 I don't know the history, you know, and they're doing this thin layer capin' and they 473 00:43:11,790 --> 00:43:19,110 went through the same struggle that I both longed to get in permit from Army Corps of 474 00:43:19,110 --> 00:43:25,130 Engineers and permission to, you know, their entire project is in the intertidal zone and 475 00:43:25,130 --> 00:43:29,850 And so I can only imagine what they went through. 476 00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:35,490 I have two of them here today, they are up for the week. 477 00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:38,730 And so I invited them here to answer any technical questions 478 00:43:38,730 --> 00:43:39,770 or whatever. 479 00:43:40,830 --> 00:43:43,750 But I've worked with them for the last three or four years 480 00:43:45,410 --> 00:43:48,170 given that permission to work on higher land 481 00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:51,150 and get in touch with land owners and just trying 482 00:43:51,150 --> 00:43:53,010 to facilitate this project along. 483 00:43:53,770 --> 00:44:01,290 And they're finally here in town, and as you might have heard the last couple of weeks, 484 00:44:01,590 --> 00:44:08,430 they've been staging some pretty heavy equipment down on the gray property down by Kindred 485 00:44:08,430 --> 00:44:09,050 Spirits. 486 00:44:10,370 --> 00:44:12,510 And they're actually going to stop the project this week. 487 00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:19,130 And so Wednesday, they have this drop-in session where they're actually going to have people 488 00:44:19,130 --> 00:44:25,150 act the picnic area and you'll be able to view the actual process taking place right 489 00:44:25,150 --> 00:44:32,490 in front of you and so they've been very much proactive in outreach and with the public 490 00:44:32,490 --> 00:44:39,770 throughout the whole thing and you know I again tried to facilitate that with them you 491 00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:45,010 know I just wanted to make you aware of it, the public aware of it you know anybody with 492 00:44:45,010 --> 00:44:50,930 any type of questions or you know want to see it happen you know nobody down there with this one 493 00:44:51,390 --> 00:44:54,090 You know, 8 to 11, 8 to 30 to 11 to 30. 494 00:45:00,140 --> 00:45:02,660 Questions? What is the 495 00:45:05,610 --> 00:45:33,070 product that's actually going down? Yes, I'm Cindy Brooks from Greenfield. And I have with me Betsy Burns. So thanks for the opportunity to speak with you. But the material that they're placing on the end of our flight is clean sand. It's been source-lovely. They did actually start. We had our 496 00:45:33,070 --> 00:45:38,950 first full day of camping on Friday and last week they worked, they've taken Sundays off 497 00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:46,690 that they're working six days a week to work within a work window that's been authorized 498 00:45:46,690 --> 00:45:49,150 by the state and on the board of engineers. 499 00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:53,630 What keeps it in place, gravity? 500 00:45:55,450 --> 00:46:00,230 So erosion of the river isn't going to move that sand down there. 501 00:46:01,010 --> 00:46:08,650 I was expecting to have some kind of a, what do I want to say, some kind of minor, some kind of, yeah. 502 00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:20,470 Really, when I first saw this being a pilot plan, a pilot project that will go three to five years and be monitored throughout that entire period. 503 00:46:21,150 --> 00:46:21,350 Perfect. 504 00:46:21,350 --> 00:46:21,650 So, 505 00:46:23,890 --> 00:46:33,750 yeah, we're hoping that, but it's part of the process for this river's natural process 506 00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:37,730 of putting sand from upstream on the flats. 507 00:46:38,310 --> 00:46:43,250 This is just accelerating time frame, yeah, then we'll do that. 508 00:46:45,620 --> 00:46:51,160 So if you're able to come on Wednesday, the schedule is being is governed by high tide. 509 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:59,820 And so that's when we can see the most activity and the broadcast system will be placed in sand is the expectation. 510 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:06,280 Unless there's some issue with the equipment for weathering. 511 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:15,800 Very much appreciate the cooperation and support from the town of Washington. 512 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,740 Thank you and other comments. 513 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:27,900 You'll recall a couple of years ago, they put a camera in that picnic grounds area so 514 00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:33,280 that they could monitor over the winter months, the ice that would build on the action 515 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:41,720 network curve and so yeah they've been at this for a couple of years already and I had 516 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:47,600 the opportunity, I had, my friend and I went down there on a sad day and went to the picnic 517 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:56,300 grounds and saw the barge unit there and the floats and the tide was very low, so of course 518 00:47:56,300 --> 00:48:03,840 there was no activity, then decided to drive down the gray shore lane and met the safety 519 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:10,580 officer as he was leaving at 1.30 in afternoon and chatted and Eastwood was constant and spent 520 00:48:10,580 --> 00:48:15,860 the week here managing the safety aspects of the project and I was very impressed with 521 00:48:15,860 --> 00:48:21,480 with, you know, what they do, they have safety meetings, first half an hour, at the beginning 522 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:28,160 of each work day, big emphasis, you know, he said, hey, if this was a normal day, you'd 523 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:35,440 have to have heart hat and safety shoes and all of that. So, very, very good company. And 524 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,880 then you mentioned that the expert was Matt Sunday who happened to be still in the trailer, 525 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:47,560 But by the time Jeff and I had finished talking, Matt was through for the day and closed the gate. 526 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:54,220 But it's a good operation and hopefully I'll chance to go down and see it. 527 00:48:54,660 --> 00:48:58,900 And as they say, they're supposed to go to the picnic grounds. 528 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,400 Between 831 and 30 this place. 529 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,680 But it's quite a sight. 530 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:12,400 the picnic grounds, the beautiful ones, they're in East Cove number 2-3, that's even 531 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,900 built 3-7. Quite an operation. 532 00:49:18,170 --> 00:49:26,530 In that six acre area, how far above the picnic area approximately does that go on the 533 00:49:26,530 --> 00:49:26,770 river? 534 00:49:27,730 --> 00:49:33,170 It's the two properties, they're two privately owned properties, one is north, and one is 535 00:49:33,170 --> 00:49:40,330 to the south. So yeah, and the property has been surveyed. So they're placing the sand 536 00:49:40,330 --> 00:49:46,810 in that survey area and that was permitted by the state in the park. 537 00:49:47,790 --> 00:49:51,450 There's a question. How thick is the sand layer moved to be? 538 00:49:51,970 --> 00:50:00,690 46 inches. Is the area where the trial being done? Is that an area of any significant 539 00:50:00,690 --> 00:50:07,770 is that representative you think of most of the area that you plan on doing eventually? 540 00:50:08,770 --> 00:50:09,750 We hope so. 541 00:50:10,170 --> 00:50:18,970 It was elected based on the mercury concentrations as well as the ability to secure the plant 542 00:50:18,970 --> 00:50:27,790 under access because the coves are where mercury has deposited because the energy in the river 543 00:50:27,790 --> 00:50:28,710 slows down. 544 00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:30,130 So it drops. 545 00:50:30,430 --> 00:50:31,250 Yeah, kind of terrible. 546 00:50:33,110 --> 00:50:34,830 Compared to the sand, it's very heavy. 547 00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:39,650 Because I was thinking, my concern all along has been, 548 00:50:40,370 --> 00:50:43,810 it was brought up earlier, is the flow of the current. 549 00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:47,830 Is it going to displace a lot of that material that's being 550 00:50:47,830 --> 00:50:49,350 put in as a cap? 551 00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:53,690 And the technology is available nowadays. 552 00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:56,710 You could put down two or three inches and then, 553 00:50:56,710 --> 00:51:05,650 And then, you know, scatter some little tracking devices, and then you finish tapping it, and if those things travel, you could track that. 554 00:51:06,850 --> 00:51:13,250 I mean, this great technology available, and it's not that expensive, and then you know. 555 00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:18,690 That's a great idea. I'm not aware of that, but I would like to share that with you. 556 00:51:18,690 --> 00:51:21,830 It's pretty easy, but it goes a little tag anywhere. 557 00:51:22,310 --> 00:51:25,830 It gets backpack, someone's pad that you can turn about on. 558 00:51:26,310 --> 00:51:27,190 You can do it all the time. 559 00:51:28,050 --> 00:51:29,350 It's not your responsibility. 560 00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:31,110 Five. 561 00:51:32,350 --> 00:51:33,390 We'll send a drop. 562 00:51:33,730 --> 00:51:34,070 We have one. 563 00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:35,370 We have one. 564 00:51:35,790 --> 00:51:36,990 We have one. 565 00:51:37,390 --> 00:51:38,750 We have one. 566 00:51:38,750 --> 00:51:39,550 We have one. 567 00:51:40,810 --> 00:51:41,730 We have one. 568 00:51:46,210 --> 00:51:51,710 There's rape rap on the picnic park, floating area, that's why I find it. 569 00:51:51,950 --> 00:51:54,410 They, I think that they might have it at the end of the week. 570 00:51:54,910 --> 00:51:56,350 Seeing that it is. 571 00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:56,970 Yeah. 572 00:51:59,850 --> 00:52:01,010 Yeah, we did not. 573 00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:04,150 We're just looking at the natural system. 574 00:52:04,450 --> 00:52:05,330 And normally, yeah. 575 00:52:05,590 --> 00:52:07,570 So that would be funny to chatty or something. 576 00:52:07,570 --> 00:52:10,370 and you're on the stands and you're going to get, 577 00:52:10,810 --> 00:52:14,050 because our goal is to understand whether it's actually 578 00:52:14,050 --> 00:52:18,170 the work that we've done to change the normal. 579 00:52:18,890 --> 00:52:20,590 Yeah, and it's a powerful river. 580 00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:24,470 So I suppose I would call it a big potential issue. 581 00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:26,330 Thank you. 582 00:52:26,330 --> 00:52:26,990 Great. 583 00:52:27,290 --> 00:52:27,950 Any other comments? 584 00:52:28,650 --> 00:52:31,010 The upriver barge that's there. 585 00:52:31,570 --> 00:52:34,250 Does that represent the northernmost points 586 00:52:34,250 --> 00:52:43,770 of the four or six inch capping area or will the cat go up beyond that I don't 587 00:52:43,770 --> 00:52:48,810 know Keith I haven't actually been down there yet we've been visiting all the 588 00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:56,410 project trust. Yes is it a barge type of setup that's visible from the picnic 589 00:52:56,410 --> 00:53:00,970 ground. You don't know the answer to that? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. 590 00:53:01,450 --> 00:53:03,750 It's marking the order that you have. 591 00:53:04,350 --> 00:53:06,990 On the comment, he's called three. Is that one? 592 00:53:07,350 --> 00:53:12,790 He's put on your mapbook, yeah. On my map or that map, yeah. 593 00:53:12,970 --> 00:53:20,710 On that book, yeah. Yes, although it might be covered up with that shoreline zoning area. 594 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,640 I'm going to 595 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:32,900 ask you a question. 596 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:34,560 All right. 597 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,220 I had 12. 598 00:53:35,660 --> 00:53:36,720 I'm in every floor. 599 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,100 I'm going to skip over it. 600 00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:41,280 Yeah. 601 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,080 He didn't feel my gun. 602 00:53:43,180 --> 00:53:43,880 I'm going to get him to the mound. 603 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,020 Get back at me for that announcement of the award. 604 00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:50,420 Yeah. 605 00:53:50,620 --> 00:53:51,000 Yeah. 606 00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:52,740 I'm not a good evening. 607 00:53:56,230 --> 00:54:01,630 The down-filed wings this past week, there were 62 wings that got out. 608 00:54:01,630 --> 00:54:11,550 filed on Friday. That was down from I believe 68 from last year so we're right on pace 609 00:54:11,550 --> 00:54:18,510 or a little below so Kelly does a great job sending reminders out and getting everybody 610 00:54:18,510 --> 00:54:27,470 in and the best she can. As far as the solar array we have finally received our slow 611 00:54:27,470 --> 00:54:33,870 to permit. They approved the roadway and so public works is up there going to try to put 612 00:54:33,870 --> 00:54:40,650 the access road in this week before school starts and then the final bid you will be 613 00:54:40,650 --> 00:54:46,710 going out for installation of that. So I don't know when the solaration you've done, but 614 00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:51,870 So, you know, permanent is finally complete and, you know, behind it. 615 00:54:53,990 --> 00:55:03,070 And the last comment that we started the audit, the field work, this last week, they were 616 00:55:03,070 --> 00:55:03,610 in here. 617 00:55:05,470 --> 00:55:09,430 You know, there was three of them this year and they tried to get it all done in one day. 618 00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:18,130 and both they got down and no issue found yet, and by the end of September, they show 619 00:55:18,130 --> 00:55:22,810 that some preliminary numbers for you and seeing 620 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,550 the glaring arrows and everything 621 00:55:30,550 --> 00:55:34,970 appears to be falling within their budgeted range. 622 00:55:39,970 --> 00:55:41,330 Questions or comments? 623 00:55:41,710 --> 00:55:42,210 That's proof. 624 00:55:42,590 --> 00:55:44,330 Chris, I had a question. 625 00:55:44,330 --> 00:55:47,790 So what's the status of the permitting work 626 00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:51,250 that was discussed for the historic business practice? 627 00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:55,910 Yeah, we received an initial proposal 628 00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:59,490 and there was two gentlemen that were going out of town 629 00:56:00,350 --> 00:56:04,330 for me and so they were going to get back 630 00:56:05,730 --> 00:56:08,030 but we have an initial proposal. 631 00:56:11,110 --> 00:56:12,810 An issue because it doesn't 632 00:56:12,810 --> 00:56:14,150 isn't what we wanted. 633 00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:23,230 there. They had to review their old wetland stuff and it wasn't, it was done when blue 634 00:56:23,230 --> 00:56:30,570 and it was going in, and they had to revisit the wetland and had to do a couple different, 635 00:56:32,670 --> 00:56:38,950 so it was like a draft proposal. It was, it was more preliminary that they had to nail 636 00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:45,290 down some of their specifics. There was a couple I call them buffers that Blue 637 00:56:45,290 --> 00:56:51,370 Ed hadn't put in on the right hand side of the road and so they wanted to 638 00:56:51,370 --> 00:56:57,350 confirm those buffers and could they be in the end of those or could they move 639 00:56:57,350 --> 00:57:04,550 those. So you're weighing on them. Yes but they should be back, they would 640 00:57:04,550 --> 00:57:09,810 It should be back this week, but we should get everything finalized this week. 641 00:57:10,490 --> 00:57:13,650 So you think there may be over the fall and winter they can do that? 642 00:57:13,870 --> 00:57:13,970 Yeah. 643 00:57:15,330 --> 00:57:16,390 That's a good one. 644 00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:16,550 Yeah. 645 00:57:18,530 --> 00:57:24,050 I don't know about the wetlands, the brunt pools. 646 00:57:26,190 --> 00:57:27,510 That's what they had to review. 647 00:57:28,170 --> 00:57:30,990 The wetlands are the brunt pools because there's a couple out there. 648 00:57:38,540 --> 00:57:43,180 Can you give us an update on what's going on over there? 649 00:57:44,740 --> 00:57:52,800 Top of my head, they pour the new floor, they rebuild the reverse osmosis. 650 00:57:54,800 --> 00:58:00,400 They are in the middle or three quarters of the way through testing every single valve 651 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,960 or a switch or electrical connection. 652 00:58:06,020 --> 00:58:10,740 didn't you say there were something like 500 different circuits for that 653 00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:13,080 more than that, more than that? 654 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,420 Yeah, I heard that number 500, that's a lot of circuits. 655 00:58:18,420 --> 00:58:19,300 Yeah, trucks today. 656 00:58:20,140 --> 00:58:25,120 Yeah, they're seeing the operation they were starting today, 657 00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:29,620 commercial disposal, construction, debris, and demo. 658 00:58:31,660 --> 00:58:40,580 They had a meeting with the Fire Department and talked about a video surveillance for municipal 659 00:58:40,580 --> 00:58:41,380 solid ways. 660 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:49,440 I believe they're going to open that back up closer to when they get into the big construction 661 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,920 phase when they start doing the boiler and all of that. 662 00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:03,260 So they'll have some type of security on site to be kind of secure in the facility for 663 00:59:03,260 --> 00:59:05,840 all that conduct and equipment and product. 664 00:59:07,620 --> 00:59:14,400 And so, to kind of kill two birds at once, they'll have the security system, the security 665 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,640 control for the equipment also be the fire control as well. 666 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:33,330 So, there's a battery system that has been the whole operation, the control system 667 00:59:33,330 --> 00:59:41,370 of the plant is run on batteries, and that is if there's a catastrophic line down or 668 00:59:41,370 --> 00:59:47,490 something goes down that they still have control of the system and that they can bring 669 00:59:47,490 --> 00:59:54,850 the whole plant down, even if there's a, you know, a line cut or whatnot, and there was batteries 670 00:59:54,850 --> 00:59:58,490 were at 35 years old, so they replaced those. 671 01:00:00,660 --> 01:00:19,420 So they're going through the system. The steam side has been cleaned out. They haven't blown it out with the water yet. But they blown it out with air. And as they test the valve, they blow on another section to pressurize it and test the valve. 672 01:00:19,420 --> 01:00:20,840 So I'm 673 01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:26,470 wondering, 674 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,140 Henry and I, that's a talent manager for the next report, isn't he pointing 675 01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:34,140 the fight up on us? 676 01:00:34,260 --> 01:00:36,380 We were reporting my packet. 677 01:00:38,180 --> 01:00:42,140 Chief, I like, I expect it wasn't going to be here, but it was not. 678 01:00:43,940 --> 01:00:45,920 Here's in the hands of this region I have to raise. 679 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,840 He won't be sober for about four or five more days. 680 01:00:51,300 --> 01:00:52,900 He won't be needing any of that pictures. 681 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,640 He raised up. 682 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:54,580 Definitely. 683 01:00:54,580 --> 01:01:01,860 like that. We have a month of July record and then the very endless number of entries 684 01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:11,920 through all of the illness and quite a few illness. The investigation has a non-chemical 685 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:23,630 Well, hazardous materials, the injury, also on citizens who were cysts, illness, or 686 01:01:23,630 --> 01:01:28,850 illness, all the reports, any questions about it, or, you know what I'm asking? 687 01:01:31,390 --> 01:01:39,790 No, we were able to, because we had people at the station, which every time this happens, 688 01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:45,750 we bring it up, because so everybody understands it was a drier fire, down with the late 689 01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:52,410 that they were able to get to very quickly and before I can spread to anything else. 690 01:01:52,810 --> 01:02:00,150 So having a couple of full-time guys in the department all the time has paid off several times. 691 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:28,040 I'm glad to see some progress on the orange and pound in 692 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,920 South Orange and perhaps some 693 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:40,400 of that's what progress effort is always good, one step at a time, I didn't get to have 694 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:50,740 look at the floors. I compared what they had. I didn't see they brought in construction 695 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,340 demolition. It was sort of stuck to that. 696 01:02:57,820 --> 01:03:00,400 I think they're going to do a temporary 697 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:07,920 roof repair so they can start with MSW to say or was that later on? They're starting with 698 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:15,780 the CND don't need the roof and then they will eventually go into the MSW but they need 699 01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:26,000 to, they need that fire awareness system and what that is, you know, they're certainly 700 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:32,740 aware that, you know, they can't have another fire down there. 701 01:03:32,740 --> 01:03:33,260 good 702 01:03:36,020 --> 01:03:38,160 progress everywhere. I'm good. 703 01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:47,900 I'm good. The tracks are a little bit easier to get over now, so I'll give them a couple of weeks before I start up again. 704 01:03:58,580 --> 01:04:13,480 Everything's good. I just do want to have one comment that I was... Well, I won't say misquoted in the Bangor Daily Rag there from Brood Bangor, but they left out half of what I said, they said that they pitched the needles into the river. 705 01:04:14,020 --> 01:04:18,280 or they watched the needles into the river from the storm drains or from what's on the banks, 706 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,160 but the bangle would stop giving out needles, then the river probably wouldn't be full of 707 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:22,660 the river needles. 708 01:04:23,300 --> 01:04:24,600 So, anyone? 709 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,460 You know, once again, once again, they were ragged. 710 01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:31,000 Good for lying in the cat box. 711 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:32,360 So. 712 01:04:32,980 --> 01:04:34,800 Did you take questions from them, still? 713 01:04:35,340 --> 01:04:36,500 Oh no, I didn't take any questions. 714 01:04:36,820 --> 01:04:38,480 They were comments from those people. 715 01:04:38,740 --> 01:04:39,160 They watched. 716 01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:39,720 They watched. 717 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:41,500 They don't get to hear what I said. 718 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:49,340 You did read that so yeah, they didn't reach out to me and ask me for comment, I said, I don't believe it. 719 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:51,460 I'm not. 720 01:04:53,180 --> 01:04:54,460 You see, that's all I have to say. 721 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,220 You don't give them comments, they make them up. 722 01:04:56,380 --> 01:04:57,820 They just make up what they want. 723 01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,040 Yeah, typical. 724 01:05:00,140 --> 01:05:03,980 I have nothing to add beyond the comments on the legal flow here that are over here. 725 01:05:03,980 --> 01:05:04,380 That's it. 726 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,940 Do I have to plead the theft? 727 01:05:08,340 --> 01:05:09,340 Do I have to say? 728 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,800 Any other comrades coming out of the audience? 729 01:05:12,060 --> 01:05:13,800 No, we couldn't. 730 01:05:13,820 --> 01:05:16,360 All right, hearing none, I called one motion to adjourn. 731 01:05:16,820 --> 01:05:17,360 So moved. 732 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,720 My mic adjourned second by Chris. 733 01:05:20,380 --> 01:05:21,560 He nods available. 734 01:05:21,820 --> 01:05:22,100 All of them. 735 01:05:22,940 --> 01:05:23,880 I need to zero. 736 01:05:24,420 --> 01:05:26,850 I need 35. 737 01:05:27,370 --> 01:05:27,890 635.