1 00:00:06,139 --> 00:00:06,740 Good evening. 2 00:00:06,740 --> 00:00:11,678 Welcome to the City Council meeting for September the 9th, 2026. 3 00:00:11,711 --> 00:00:14,280 My name is Scott Brennan. I am the mayor of the city of. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,084 And I will be cheering the meeting of the City Council meeting. 5 00:00:18,084 --> 00:00:21,087 Participation is meeting 6 00:00:21,888 --> 00:00:24,491 is both in person and virtual 7 00:00:24,491 --> 00:00:27,327 for council members participating through virtual attendance. 8 00:00:27,327 --> 00:00:27,994 Please ensure 9 00:00:27,994 --> 00:00:32,232 you are attending from a private place free of interruptions or distractions. 10 00:00:32,632 --> 00:00:35,668 This meeting is being held in person and through the platform. 11 00:00:35,668 --> 00:00:36,569 Zoom. 12 00:00:36,569 --> 00:00:38,304 A link for virtual participation 13 00:00:38,304 --> 00:00:41,708 can be found on the agenda or on the city's web page. 14 00:00:42,442 --> 00:00:45,045 We will start this meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance 15 00:00:45,045 --> 00:00:48,048 led by Councilmember Hogan. 16 00:00:53,153 --> 00:00:57,891 Of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands 17 00:00:57,924 --> 00:01:03,063 one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 18 00:01:10,303 --> 00:01:13,306 Madam clerk, will you please call roll? 19 00:01:14,340 --> 00:01:14,908 Council member. 20 00:01:14,908 --> 00:01:17,243 Torres. 21 00:01:17,243 --> 00:01:19,112 Council member. Williams. Present. 22 00:01:19,112 --> 00:01:20,880 Council member. Tracy. Present. 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,782 Deputy mayor. Sproul. Present. 24 00:01:22,782 --> 00:01:24,918 Council member. Holland. 25 00:01:24,918 --> 00:01:26,686 Council member. Hogan. Present. 26 00:01:26,686 --> 00:01:27,687 Council member. Reid. 27 00:01:27,687 --> 00:01:30,690 Present. Roll is complete. We have a quorum. 28 00:01:30,924 --> 00:01:31,391 Thank you. 29 00:01:31,391 --> 00:01:35,128 Would Council entertain a motion to excuse Council Member Hogan? 30 00:01:35,829 --> 00:01:37,664 Yeah, I can go now. 31 00:01:37,664 --> 00:01:40,633 Did council member Holland contact? 32 00:01:40,633 --> 00:01:43,636 You know 33 00:01:44,037 --> 00:01:45,972 you guys are on your own. 34 00:01:45,972 --> 00:01:48,942 Okay. 35 00:01:49,476 --> 00:01:50,076 Motion. 36 00:01:50,076 --> 00:01:52,846 Excuse. Council member. 37 00:01:52,846 --> 00:01:57,083 Motion made by Councilmember Hogan, seconded by Councilmember Tracy. 38 00:01:57,250 --> 00:01:58,284 All those in favor? 39 00:01:58,284 --> 00:02:00,753 All those opposed. 40 00:02:00,753 --> 00:02:03,556 Motion passes. 41 00:02:03,556 --> 00:02:07,760 Councilors will be recognized with a raise of the hand for motions to move. 42 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:11,030 Second, comment and question when speaking through the through the chair. 43 00:02:11,464 --> 00:02:14,400 When speaking, speak through the chair 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,769 and identify staff by position. 45 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:20,840 This portion of the meeting will have no motions made 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,911 by the Council and will serve as an information and discussion meeting. 47 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:29,482 Information will be presented to Council and the public to better understand 48 00:02:29,516 --> 00:02:33,720 not only current events and activities in the cities in the city, but to preview 49 00:02:33,753 --> 00:02:37,824 future potential agenda bills to be voted on at a later date. 50 00:02:38,558 --> 00:02:41,127 In a council meeting, 51 00:02:41,127 --> 00:02:44,130 the council will have discussion following each presentation 52 00:02:44,130 --> 00:02:47,267 by staff and the opportunity to ask questions of the presenter. 53 00:02:47,267 --> 00:02:51,070 I will initially call on each council member for questions and subsequent 54 00:02:51,070 --> 00:02:55,141 questions by raising their hand and waiting for the chair to acknowledge. 55 00:02:55,909 --> 00:02:58,444 Audience members will not be able to participate 56 00:02:58,444 --> 00:03:01,581 in this portion of the meeting. Council. 57 00:03:01,714 --> 00:03:06,152 Council discussions will be followed by action items moving the agenda Bill. 58 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:18,031 First on the agenda this evening is 59 00:03:18,431 --> 00:03:21,434 passage presentation. 60 00:03:24,771 --> 00:03:28,441 Do we have from Washington here this evening? 61 00:03:28,541 --> 00:03:30,710 Yes. They are joining us virtually tonight. 62 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:32,045 Thank you. 63 00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:33,379 Yes. Good evening. 64 00:03:33,379 --> 00:03:35,815 Yes. I'm here to give the presentation. 65 00:03:35,815 --> 00:03:38,818 Let me see if I can share my screen with you. 66 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:50,730 All right. 67 00:03:50,730 --> 00:03:53,700 Can you all see the. 68 00:03:53,766 --> 00:03:56,436 Yes. Yes. 69 00:03:56,436 --> 00:03:57,437 Okay. 70 00:03:57,437 --> 00:03:59,505 Well, thank you all for letting me again tonight. 71 00:03:59,505 --> 00:04:01,107 My name is Joey Bernal. 72 00:04:01,107 --> 00:04:04,444 I'm a project engineer with Washington State Department 73 00:04:04,444 --> 00:04:08,548 of Transportation, and I'm here tonight to talk about the SR 162 74 00:04:08,581 --> 00:04:12,585 auditing vicinity Roundabout and Fish Passage project 75 00:04:12,785 --> 00:04:16,122 that is located just south east of city limits. 76 00:04:18,591 --> 00:04:19,859 So in this bundle 77 00:04:19,859 --> 00:04:26,399 we have a bundle of three separate sites that we're putting together for contract. 78 00:04:26,432 --> 00:04:28,034 Advertisement. 79 00:04:28,034 --> 00:04:30,169 The first site is Cod Creek. 80 00:04:30,169 --> 00:04:33,306 It's a fish bear removal project. 81 00:04:33,406 --> 00:04:39,012 It's located just north of the Baxter Manufacturing there on SR 162. 82 00:04:40,313 --> 00:04:43,249 The second site is to the east of that, about a mile. 83 00:04:43,249 --> 00:04:45,351 It's also on 162. 84 00:04:45,351 --> 00:04:46,586 It's a creek. 85 00:04:46,586 --> 00:04:49,589 Remove fish barrier project 86 00:04:49,589 --> 00:04:52,892 in the third site is that the intersection of Orrville Road 87 00:04:53,026 --> 00:04:56,029 and SR 162, 88 00:04:57,196 --> 00:05:00,199 where we got an intersection improvement project. 89 00:05:01,301 --> 00:05:04,971 So the purpose of these projects, Card and Roush Creek, 90 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:08,341 they are the existing culverts or barriers 91 00:05:08,341 --> 00:05:11,344 of fish passage. 92 00:05:11,411 --> 00:05:13,346 All of you might be aware that the state 93 00:05:13,346 --> 00:05:18,918 had a federal injunction in place where we need to replace Fish barriers. 94 00:05:19,085 --> 00:05:21,521 These two sites are on that injunction list. 95 00:05:21,521 --> 00:05:25,224 So the state is required to correct these barriers. 96 00:05:25,825 --> 00:05:29,395 And the site the Orrville Road intersection improvement. 97 00:05:29,662 --> 00:05:31,831 We're going to put a roundabout there. 98 00:05:31,831 --> 00:05:34,834 It's a safety animal build improvement project. 99 00:05:35,435 --> 00:05:40,273 So a couple of reasons why we're bundling these together is all pretty close 100 00:05:40,273 --> 00:05:43,409 together in about the same timeline for construction. 101 00:05:43,443 --> 00:05:47,847 So it's easier if we bundle them together to have one contractor to minimize 102 00:05:47,847 --> 00:05:51,851 construction impacts to the public, minimize the risk to the schedule 103 00:05:51,851 --> 00:05:56,522 by having one contractor, and we reduce costs for all three sites. 104 00:05:59,425 --> 00:06:00,026 So I'm going to dig 105 00:06:00,026 --> 00:06:03,596 into each one of these projects a little bit more detail individually. 106 00:06:03,796 --> 00:06:08,234 So our car creek there by Burley or Baxter Manufacturing 107 00:06:08,568 --> 00:06:11,571 existing culvert is only about two foot by three foot. 108 00:06:11,604 --> 00:06:14,140 It's a pretty small diameter culvert. 109 00:06:14,140 --> 00:06:18,811 We're going to replace it with a 30ft wide by ten foot tall concrete box culvert. 110 00:06:19,512 --> 00:06:22,248 That's a pretty big box culvert. 111 00:06:22,248 --> 00:06:24,550 And the soils out there aren't the best. 112 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:28,654 So we're having to do some ground improvements under the structure itself. 113 00:06:28,688 --> 00:06:32,792 So we're going to make some stone columns that go about down about 20ft 114 00:06:32,825 --> 00:06:34,727 under the structure. 115 00:06:34,727 --> 00:06:39,132 So keep that in mind when we talk about in a little bit about the water main 116 00:06:39,165 --> 00:06:42,168 that goes along SR 162. 117 00:06:43,836 --> 00:06:46,739 The existing culvert is located 118 00:06:46,739 --> 00:06:50,309 just to the west side of Baxter Manufacturing. 119 00:06:50,676 --> 00:06:53,846 We're actually going to shift it 500ft to the east. 120 00:06:54,113 --> 00:06:57,350 And a few reasons for that. 121 00:06:57,483 --> 00:07:02,021 The culvert self, the new culvert we need to have about three feet of freeboard 122 00:07:02,522 --> 00:07:07,059 above the existing water surface elevation to the bottom of the culvert. 123 00:07:07,393 --> 00:07:10,396 And to do that we need to raise the profile of the highway. 124 00:07:10,963 --> 00:07:13,800 The highway is going to be raised about five feet. 125 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,803 If we kept the existing culvert where it is now, 126 00:07:17,136 --> 00:07:19,872 that highway profile raised would impact 127 00:07:19,872 --> 00:07:22,875 the intersection of Oroville Road. 128 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:26,446 We'd have some complications with all the driveways, impacts 129 00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:30,249 for manufacturing and the private parcels on the north side. 130 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:34,086 So we're shifting that culvert to the east 500ft. 131 00:07:34,220 --> 00:07:36,823 It gets us away from the intersection. 132 00:07:36,823 --> 00:07:39,592 It helps us with drainage with the driveways. 133 00:07:39,592 --> 00:07:44,764 And we avoid two existing culverts under adjacent driveways. 134 00:07:47,433 --> 00:07:50,002 And during construction when we build this, 135 00:07:50,002 --> 00:07:53,039 we're going to build a temporary roadway on the north side of the roadway. 136 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:56,309 You might hear is called called a shoo fly. 137 00:07:57,009 --> 00:07:59,712 It's going to be a two lane shoe fly on the north side. 138 00:07:59,712 --> 00:08:02,582 So two lanes of traffic going through for the most part 139 00:08:02,582 --> 00:08:05,918 during construction, there will be times when we have 140 00:08:06,919 --> 00:08:09,121 a single lane closure. 141 00:08:09,121 --> 00:08:10,957 We'll have fiber butter. 142 00:08:10,957 --> 00:08:14,026 So there will be impacts of traffic at some points. 143 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,930 But for the most part we'll have that two lanes to fly when we're installing 144 00:08:17,930 --> 00:08:22,468 the culvert construction, then start late spring early 145 00:08:22,468 --> 00:08:25,471 summer next year. 146 00:08:25,471 --> 00:08:28,474 So any questions on the Card Creek side? 147 00:08:32,478 --> 00:08:32,912 Okay. 148 00:08:32,912 --> 00:08:35,147 We'll move on to the street side. 149 00:08:35,147 --> 00:08:38,050 Like I said, this is about a mile to the east. 150 00:08:38,050 --> 00:08:43,155 This project will be replacing two existing three foot diameter metal 151 00:08:43,155 --> 00:08:44,323 culverts. 152 00:08:44,323 --> 00:08:48,995 The structure here is a little bigger, is 40ft wide by 12ft tall. 153 00:08:49,962 --> 00:08:50,663 The reason for 154 00:08:50,663 --> 00:08:54,867 that is since we have two existing culverts, it's a braided stream. 155 00:08:55,234 --> 00:08:58,437 We're going to try to keep those braids within the new culvert. 156 00:08:59,805 --> 00:09:02,675 It's just more natural that way for the existing stream 157 00:09:02,675 --> 00:09:05,344 trying to match what's out there now. 158 00:09:05,344 --> 00:09:07,847 This site had the same issue that we have our country. 159 00:09:07,847 --> 00:09:11,918 We need that minimum three foot freeboard from the water surface 160 00:09:11,918 --> 00:09:15,354 elevation to the bottom of the the lid of the culvert. 161 00:09:15,788 --> 00:09:17,890 So we're going to raise the profile at this site too. 162 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:20,726 We got to raise at about five feet. 163 00:09:20,726 --> 00:09:24,931 And as a site we had a house directly adjacent to the culvert 164 00:09:24,964 --> 00:09:26,399 with their driveway. 165 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:29,402 And we had troubles tying in their driveway. 166 00:09:29,502 --> 00:09:30,469 So what we're going to do, 167 00:09:30,469 --> 00:09:33,539 we're going to shift the entire highway about 12ft to the north. 168 00:09:33,839 --> 00:09:37,510 That gives us a little bit of room to tie that driveway in. 169 00:09:37,510 --> 00:09:38,878 Better to that house. 170 00:09:40,846 --> 00:09:41,847 At this site, 171 00:09:41,847 --> 00:09:44,784 we're going to have a shoe fly once again, just like Khatri. 172 00:09:44,784 --> 00:09:47,787 It's only going to be a single, single lane shoe fly, 173 00:09:48,020 --> 00:09:49,488 since we don't have as much traffic 174 00:09:49,488 --> 00:09:52,491 as we have with the intersection of Orbital Road. 175 00:09:52,758 --> 00:09:55,928 So we'll have the single lens to fly on the north side of the road. 176 00:09:55,962 --> 00:09:59,031 We're going to have a temporary signal system there 177 00:09:59,031 --> 00:10:02,635 that will give traffic alternating times to go 178 00:10:04,036 --> 00:10:07,506 this site once again, just like car trade, will start construction 179 00:10:07,607 --> 00:10:10,710 late spring early summer next year. 180 00:10:13,045 --> 00:10:14,547 Then the third site 181 00:10:14,547 --> 00:10:17,550 is the Oval Road roundabout that we're proposing. 182 00:10:17,650 --> 00:10:19,919 It's going to be a single lane roundabout. 183 00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:23,923 They'll eliminate that stop condition you have now on Orrville 184 00:10:23,923 --> 00:10:26,926 Road as the comes up to that T intersection. 185 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,129 One of the benefits of doing the roundabout 186 00:10:30,129 --> 00:10:33,399 at the same time as car trade and the same project, 187 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:37,303 we're going to widen the shoulders from the roundabout down as card trick. 188 00:10:37,503 --> 00:10:42,041 So you can have four foot shoulders for that 4 or 500ft. 189 00:10:42,041 --> 00:10:46,679 So that's a nice improvement during construction of the roundabout. 190 00:10:47,113 --> 00:10:50,049 Roundabouts have a lot of moving pieces a lot of work. 191 00:10:50,049 --> 00:10:55,488 We're going to have to have a single lane souffle during for construction. 192 00:10:55,988 --> 00:10:58,591 So there will be impacts because we'll have a single lane 193 00:10:58,591 --> 00:11:01,594 open for the duration of construction. 194 00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:04,196 We couldn't get away from that construction. 195 00:11:04,196 --> 00:11:09,502 The roundabout is scheduled for spring summer of 2028. 196 00:11:09,602 --> 00:11:12,605 So a year after that, the two culverts. 197 00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:16,709 The reason for that is currently needed to get constructed 198 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:21,313 first due to some stormwater issues, and we just didn't 199 00:11:21,313 --> 00:11:25,484 have enough time to construct Car Creek and the roundabout in 2027. 200 00:11:25,918 --> 00:11:29,555 So the roundabout got bumped into early 2028. 201 00:11:31,924 --> 00:11:34,193 So for the project schedule, 202 00:11:34,193 --> 00:11:38,664 we're going out for contractor beds in November. 203 00:11:39,331 --> 00:11:44,270 We're expecting to open those bids in December and award the project soon after. 204 00:11:44,770 --> 00:11:47,339 Like I already said, I am Rausch Creek. 205 00:11:47,339 --> 00:11:53,646 Construction will start in late spring 2027 and extended to the fall, 206 00:11:53,879 --> 00:11:57,650 and construction of the roundabout will start in spring 2028 207 00:11:57,650 --> 00:12:00,619 and extend into the summer. 208 00:12:01,754 --> 00:12:03,956 So all of you might be worried 209 00:12:03,956 --> 00:12:07,526 about the impacts to the City of Ordinance infrastructure. 210 00:12:07,927 --> 00:12:10,129 That's all three sites. 211 00:12:10,129 --> 00:12:13,132 The city's water main. 212 00:12:13,666 --> 00:12:17,236 Is adjacent to all three sites within wash shots right away. 213 00:12:17,470 --> 00:12:22,208 So it's a conflict and it's got to get relocated. 214 00:12:23,109 --> 00:12:25,945 So we're going to the options were relocate the water 215 00:12:25,945 --> 00:12:31,350 main prior to wash Dot's project coming through or do it at the same time. 216 00:12:31,984 --> 00:12:34,320 Sometimes I do want to point out is the city's water 217 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,757 main is in our right of way by franchise. 218 00:12:38,491 --> 00:12:41,961 So what that means is there's no property rights 219 00:12:41,961 --> 00:12:45,998 that the city owns, so any relocation costs are. 220 00:12:46,465 --> 00:12:47,767 The city has to cover 221 00:12:49,268 --> 00:12:51,003 the existing water line. 222 00:12:51,003 --> 00:12:54,807 The concrete main that's undersized and obsolete. 223 00:12:55,307 --> 00:12:57,843 So this project had the opportunity 224 00:12:57,843 --> 00:13:01,113 to upgrade about 1900 feet of water main. 225 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:07,486 We got 1400 feet at the the roundabout and Car Creek site. 226 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,789 They'll get upgraded to a 12 inch five. 227 00:13:09,789 --> 00:13:12,391 And that Rausch Creek got about 500ft. 228 00:13:12,391 --> 00:13:15,394 Upgraded to an eight inch pipe. 229 00:13:16,162 --> 00:13:18,430 And the water main replacement will happen 230 00:13:18,430 --> 00:13:21,567 at the same time as the watchdog project. 231 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,603 So right now we work with your engineer. 232 00:13:24,670 --> 00:13:26,572 Consultant paramedics. 233 00:13:26,572 --> 00:13:30,643 We got all the water main work in our contract. 234 00:13:30,776 --> 00:13:33,712 It's all in the schedule, the working days. 235 00:13:33,712 --> 00:13:36,715 So we all go out together. 236 00:13:37,683 --> 00:13:38,918 So we did 237 00:13:38,918 --> 00:13:43,389 look at a few different options before we included this work in our project. 238 00:13:44,557 --> 00:13:45,024 The first 239 00:13:45,024 --> 00:13:48,460 option was the city could have had a separate project 240 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:52,164 and relocated prior to the watchdog project coming through. 241 00:13:52,832 --> 00:13:55,434 Probably not a really good option, 242 00:13:55,434 --> 00:13:58,704 but as I mentioned earlier, we had all those ground improvements 243 00:13:58,904 --> 00:14:02,708 at cartridge where we're going down 20ft under the Culver itself. 244 00:14:03,342 --> 00:14:06,278 That would require the water main to be bored 245 00:14:06,278 --> 00:14:09,315 35ft below a car creek. 246 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:12,351 It's pretty difficult 247 00:14:12,351 --> 00:14:16,388 access for maintenance, and it's got a high cost when we got bored that deep. 248 00:14:16,789 --> 00:14:19,491 So in the city would have additional cost to. 249 00:14:19,491 --> 00:14:23,529 If you would have had a separate project, you would have had traffic control, 250 00:14:23,529 --> 00:14:25,064 you got covered by yourself. 251 00:14:25,064 --> 00:14:29,768 You got repaving, the highway mobilization and just a boring cost. 252 00:14:29,802 --> 00:14:32,805 The self is pretty spendy. 253 00:14:34,006 --> 00:14:38,244 The second option would have been advertise. 254 00:14:38,277 --> 00:14:40,579 The city could advertise a separate project 255 00:14:40,579 --> 00:14:44,383 and relocated during the watchdog project. 256 00:14:44,750 --> 00:14:48,554 That's not really a good option for the city or watchdog, 257 00:14:48,954 --> 00:14:53,225 because you would have had two different contractors working in a small work zone. 258 00:14:53,392 --> 00:14:56,228 That's just a recipe 259 00:14:56,228 --> 00:15:01,233 for conflict between the contractors claims against the city and the state, 260 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:04,236 because one contractor might have been the way of the other one. 261 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:07,206 So just not a really good option for us. 262 00:15:08,207 --> 00:15:10,276 The third option is what we went with 263 00:15:10,276 --> 00:15:14,313 that we worked with your engineering consultant to put together. 264 00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:18,918 Did we partner together and Wash advertising, 265 00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:23,689 the joint project to relocate the water main as part of our project? 266 00:15:23,789 --> 00:15:25,090 This cost savings with that, 267 00:15:25,090 --> 00:15:29,194 because we share our mobilization, we share on traffic control 268 00:15:29,395 --> 00:15:33,799 and for the most part washed off when we paying for all the repaving. 269 00:15:34,366 --> 00:15:38,637 Because as I mentioned, that card and Roush, we get that profile adjustment. 270 00:15:38,671 --> 00:15:41,407 We're rebuilding hundreds of feet of road. 271 00:15:41,407 --> 00:15:45,010 The contractor can come in, come in there at the beginning of the project. 272 00:15:45,210 --> 00:15:49,581 They can install the water main and any pavement that they were going to damage. 273 00:15:49,982 --> 00:15:52,051 We were going to replace anyways. 274 00:15:52,051 --> 00:15:54,687 So it's a cost savings for the city. 275 00:15:54,687 --> 00:15:57,089 It minimizes schedule risk. 276 00:15:57,089 --> 00:15:59,792 If you have one contractor doing all the work 277 00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:02,962 and the best part of it for long term maintenance for the city. 278 00:16:03,195 --> 00:16:06,732 The water mains itself are going on the structure, 279 00:16:06,832 --> 00:16:11,236 so it's easy for them to access them for any maintenance in the future. 280 00:16:11,637 --> 00:16:15,908 And it saves cost if you're not boring far down below the stream. 281 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:19,511 So we work with the consultant. 282 00:16:19,511 --> 00:16:23,248 We put together the responsibilities in the construction agreement 283 00:16:23,282 --> 00:16:27,886 by what it will do and what the city will do, so 284 00:16:29,188 --> 00:16:32,691 that our contractor will remove, deactivate 285 00:16:32,691 --> 00:16:36,261 and dispose of all the specialist concrete water main that's out there now. 286 00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:41,233 Our contractor will install the temporary water service 287 00:16:41,633 --> 00:16:44,303 throughout construction because we got we got to make sure 288 00:16:44,303 --> 00:16:47,306 all the adjacent parcels have water service. 289 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:50,876 Our contractor will install the new water main service 290 00:16:50,876 --> 00:16:54,279 line and disinfect, flush and test and new system. 291 00:16:54,446 --> 00:16:59,284 So it's just a kind of a one stop shop for installing that water main. 292 00:17:00,085 --> 00:17:03,088 The contractor will do all the as built drawings 293 00:17:03,155 --> 00:17:08,794 that the city engineering department required, and will minister the contract. 294 00:17:08,994 --> 00:17:12,598 So we will have the inspectors out there and we will process the 295 00:17:12,598 --> 00:17:14,299 payments to the contractor. 296 00:17:15,367 --> 00:17:17,770 So the work performed by the city 297 00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:21,907 is the city will continue to operate the water system as they do now, 298 00:17:22,441 --> 00:17:25,944 and the work through us to tell the contractor 299 00:17:25,944 --> 00:17:28,947 what needs to be done. 300 00:17:29,348 --> 00:17:30,349 The city will provide 301 00:17:30,349 --> 00:17:33,519 assistance in just in time training for our inspectors. 302 00:17:33,819 --> 00:17:37,489 We don't do a lot of water main work, so our inspectors don't. 303 00:17:37,790 --> 00:17:40,459 Not all the inspectors have a lot of knowledge in it. 304 00:17:40,459 --> 00:17:42,761 Was that just in time training for inspectors? 305 00:17:42,761 --> 00:17:45,764 They're going to know what to look for during construction. 306 00:17:46,298 --> 00:17:49,101 The city engineer is made available 307 00:17:49,101 --> 00:17:52,438 for any questions or fill changes during construction. 308 00:17:52,838 --> 00:17:56,875 That was key for us because questions always come up during construction. 309 00:17:57,376 --> 00:18:02,781 The city will attend any pre-construction or pre-work activity meetings 310 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:07,686 related to the water main work, so we'll make sure the city engineer 311 00:18:07,686 --> 00:18:11,490 is there and any concerns that the city has can get shared 312 00:18:11,490 --> 00:18:15,661 with washed out, and the contractor and the city will provide 313 00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:19,398 on site representation for connecting the live system. 314 00:18:19,798 --> 00:18:22,668 Pressure testing and bacteria testing. 315 00:18:26,004 --> 00:18:28,640 So the estimated cost 316 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,510 to all this work in our contract. 317 00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:34,246 That's what you will see in the construction agreement 318 00:18:34,246 --> 00:18:39,184 between the city and state is about 1.59 million. 319 00:18:39,852 --> 00:18:43,522 That estimate includes the water main construction costs 320 00:18:43,555 --> 00:18:48,260 and includes construction services, engineering charge 20%. 321 00:18:48,327 --> 00:18:53,799 And the indirect costs are the markups we have to do. 322 00:18:53,832 --> 00:18:57,569 We have to include when we do work for a local agency 323 00:18:58,704 --> 00:19:01,273 and during construction, wash shop 324 00:19:01,273 --> 00:19:05,410 will invoice the city for all the construction costs. 325 00:19:05,477 --> 00:19:08,947 So we have that reimbursable agreement set up where 326 00:19:10,182 --> 00:19:12,284 we can get that water main relocated 327 00:19:12,284 --> 00:19:15,287 and we can just invoice the city. 328 00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:21,760 Do you have any questions about any of these three sites 329 00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:25,063 or the water main relocation work? 330 00:19:26,598 --> 00:19:27,199 Thank you, Mr. 331 00:19:27,199 --> 00:19:27,866 Brunel. 332 00:19:27,866 --> 00:19:31,403 First question from Council Member Reid. 333 00:19:33,105 --> 00:19:34,940 Yeah, the $1.5 million. 334 00:19:34,940 --> 00:19:38,010 That's the cost to the city. Yes. 335 00:19:38,277 --> 00:19:42,447 And the other question I have is the completion date 336 00:19:43,682 --> 00:19:45,717 projected 337 00:19:45,717 --> 00:19:48,153 for the water line and the roundabout 338 00:19:48,153 --> 00:19:51,156 and the fish passageways 339 00:19:51,523 --> 00:19:54,860 complete for Carl Creek and Rausch Creek. 340 00:19:54,927 --> 00:19:58,530 Completion would be fall of 2027. 341 00:19:58,664 --> 00:20:04,236 And for the roundabout that would be summer of 2028. 342 00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:08,106 And back to that first question about the cost. 343 00:20:08,106 --> 00:20:13,045 The the green between the city and the state is at that 1.59 million. 344 00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:16,381 I believe the total 345 00:20:16,381 --> 00:20:20,085 told to the the council is slightly higher than that 346 00:20:20,085 --> 00:20:23,722 because parametric have some costs included on that. 347 00:20:23,755 --> 00:20:26,758 That isn't in that agreement. 348 00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:28,827 Thank you. 349 00:20:28,827 --> 00:20:31,029 Thank you. Councilmember Tracy. 350 00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:34,466 Did I understand when those culverts go in. 351 00:20:34,499 --> 00:20:38,370 They're going to be the the tops are raised up five feet. 352 00:20:39,104 --> 00:20:42,140 The roadway surface is being raised five feet. Yes. 353 00:20:42,207 --> 00:20:45,077 At both those locations. Correct. 354 00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:50,115 And so the roundabout basically is going to be raised at least five feet also. 355 00:20:51,149 --> 00:20:52,150 We will tie 356 00:20:52,150 --> 00:20:56,221 back into the existing ground before you get to the hump in the road. 357 00:20:57,022 --> 00:20:58,957 It'll be kind of a hump in the road. 358 00:20:58,957 --> 00:21:02,160 Yes, it'll be designed to all design standards 359 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,163 for vertical profiles. 360 00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:08,567 Okay. 361 00:21:08,567 --> 00:21:08,967 Thank you. 362 00:21:08,967 --> 00:21:11,970 Any further questions from council? 363 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,643 Deputy mayor? 364 00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:20,312 I guess more for the city. 365 00:21:20,312 --> 00:21:24,182 So we're going to be assisting in training. 366 00:21:24,716 --> 00:21:27,119 Washed out for 367 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,353 doing inspections. 368 00:21:28,353 --> 00:21:31,356 Do we currently have that capability? 369 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:37,596 We have. 370 00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:40,599 Do we have staff to be 371 00:21:40,766 --> 00:21:44,503 inspections that we're going to be training to do? 372 00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:44,970 Yeah. 373 00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:49,207 So I thought we had gotten rid of our inspectors. 374 00:21:49,241 --> 00:21:49,608 Yeah. 375 00:21:49,608 --> 00:21:53,045 I, I'm not quite sure where where Mr. 376 00:21:53,045 --> 00:21:56,915 Brunell was coming from on that one that we were looking 377 00:21:56,915 --> 00:22:00,919 at bringing in an inspector for, for that for our portion of the project. 378 00:22:00,919 --> 00:22:03,355 But maybe you can review that again, Mr. 379 00:22:03,355 --> 00:22:04,423 Bruno. 380 00:22:04,423 --> 00:22:05,290 Yeah, I can do that. 381 00:22:05,290 --> 00:22:07,426 And I have my design team lead here with me today. 382 00:22:07,426 --> 00:22:12,164 Braden and I got parametric, and I know they chatted about this quite a bit. 383 00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:15,767 So if you all can give some a chime in on that issue. 384 00:22:18,637 --> 00:22:21,039 Yeah, I could jump in 385 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,809 from parametric working on this project 386 00:22:23,809 --> 00:22:26,812 with Dot. 387 00:22:27,045 --> 00:22:30,849 The specific point for the inspector 388 00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:35,087 responsibility through the city is just to provide in time training. 389 00:22:35,087 --> 00:22:38,790 So if there's any specifics on testing 390 00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:42,928 requirements or connections or kind of in the field questions 391 00:22:42,928 --> 00:22:46,898 that they might have specific water line related. 392 00:22:48,567 --> 00:22:50,001 Points that they need 393 00:22:50,001 --> 00:22:56,241 along this whole water line construction, they can ask the city and staff 394 00:22:56,241 --> 00:22:59,511 that's available as needed. 395 00:23:01,546 --> 00:23:01,880 Okay. 396 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,281 Thank you. 397 00:23:03,281 --> 00:23:05,784 Thank you. 398 00:23:05,784 --> 00:23:09,354 To add to this, our our operations staff will be heavily involved in it. 399 00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:14,059 Also, there will be a lot of isolation and restoration and flushing of the system. 400 00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:19,998 So I think that's what what our parametric engineer is pointing out. 401 00:23:19,998 --> 00:23:22,234 I have our public works director here this evening. 402 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:25,237 If you if you wanted to comment on that at all, 403 00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:27,539 on your on your role in the project. 404 00:23:34,479 --> 00:23:37,482 Can you hear me? 405 00:23:41,486 --> 00:23:44,489 Just like. 406 00:23:51,363 --> 00:23:51,863 Good evening. 407 00:23:51,863 --> 00:23:54,099 Thank you. Can you hear me now? 408 00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:54,833 All right. 409 00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:58,804 I currently have the contract agreement that was sent over yesterday 410 00:23:58,804 --> 00:24:00,372 afternoon that he's referencing. 411 00:24:00,372 --> 00:24:02,240 And there are some things that we want to talk 412 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,044 about internally to, to figure out some of those finer points. 413 00:24:06,044 --> 00:24:08,880 But it is in the contract that, as they mentioned, 414 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,082 they're not really familiar with some water main stuff. 415 00:24:11,082 --> 00:24:15,487 And I think through JC and my staff, we can coordinate 416 00:24:15,487 --> 00:24:18,890 exactly what it is they need from us. 417 00:24:18,924 --> 00:24:22,027 Obviously it's our system, so we want to be operating valves 418 00:24:22,027 --> 00:24:25,263 and ensuring that our pumps are running and our reservoirs are full, 419 00:24:25,263 --> 00:24:29,901 and that customers are taken care of to coordinate any, any of those shutdowns. 420 00:24:29,901 --> 00:24:31,837 I would anticipate. 421 00:24:31,837 --> 00:24:34,306 And it's not really defined in here. 422 00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:36,141 This was going to be a further conversation 423 00:24:36,141 --> 00:24:38,043 as we fine tune this before signing it. 424 00:24:38,043 --> 00:24:39,511 This isn't signed yet. 425 00:24:39,511 --> 00:24:45,050 What it is specifically they need and what it is that staff can provide. 426 00:24:45,083 --> 00:24:49,488 Like like the mayor mentioned, we do have plenty of folks on staff 427 00:24:49,488 --> 00:24:53,391 that that can assist with things like shut down to the tie ins. 428 00:24:53,391 --> 00:24:56,828 There is a temporary water main portion of this. 429 00:24:56,828 --> 00:25:00,165 I think it was it was briefly touched on where when they did. 430 00:25:00,198 --> 00:25:03,969 I've done a few of these projects myself, and when they dig a hole that deep, it's 431 00:25:03,969 --> 00:25:04,970 going to be very impressive. 432 00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:06,371 You guys should swing by there 433 00:25:06,371 --> 00:25:09,441 when they get going, but we have to take the water main 434 00:25:09,441 --> 00:25:13,645 and move it completely out of the way on top of the ground temporarily. 435 00:25:13,645 --> 00:25:16,982 Then as they build the structure, we'll put it, remove that 436 00:25:16,982 --> 00:25:21,152 and put it back in place for a more permanent location in the future. 437 00:25:21,152 --> 00:25:27,225 So there will be a couple of swap outs, testing and reporting to the state. 438 00:25:27,225 --> 00:25:32,597 Obviously for any back to back tees will follow our normal back t sample 439 00:25:32,731 --> 00:25:36,167 procedures and pressure testing procedures that we have to follow through. 440 00:25:37,235 --> 00:25:39,638 And the Department of Health. 441 00:25:39,638 --> 00:25:40,906 So I don't. 442 00:25:40,906 --> 00:25:43,642 Those are typically things we see well in advance. 443 00:25:43,642 --> 00:25:48,513 So everyone on our staff as well as parametric and washed out 444 00:25:48,513 --> 00:25:53,351 contractor will have plenty of of lead time as to when those disconnections, 445 00:25:53,351 --> 00:25:56,755 reconnection and sampling procedures will need to take place. 446 00:25:58,023 --> 00:26:00,091 Thank you, 447 00:26:00,091 --> 00:26:03,061 Councilmember Torres. 448 00:26:03,128 --> 00:26:04,796 So understand 449 00:26:04,796 --> 00:26:07,866 this correctly that this is just the 1.5 450 00:26:07,866 --> 00:26:11,803 million is just for a temporary water line 451 00:26:12,103 --> 00:26:16,675 for those for the roundabout over here. 452 00:26:16,708 --> 00:26:21,780 All to my knowledge, all three locations will require 453 00:26:22,113 --> 00:26:25,550 at least two for sure will require the water main 454 00:26:25,550 --> 00:26:29,988 to be essentially teed completely out of the way of this excavation. 455 00:26:29,988 --> 00:26:31,389 It's going to be quite large. 456 00:26:31,389 --> 00:26:34,926 And then when they're done and we're healing the road back together. 457 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,662 They'll disconnect that pipe, which we will. 458 00:26:37,662 --> 00:26:39,831 We've I've gone through the contract 459 00:26:39,831 --> 00:26:43,501 and through the plants to make sure that we're paying for the pipe both times. 460 00:26:43,501 --> 00:26:47,105 So when we the new the old pipe 461 00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:51,009 that they not old, but the temporary pipe will be returned to the city. 462 00:26:51,009 --> 00:26:54,779 That it's our anticipation that we can disinfect those sections 463 00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:59,451 of pipe and wrap the ends of them and keep them at our facility 464 00:26:59,451 --> 00:27:01,920 for extra pipe, for main breaks and those kinds of things. 465 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:07,292 So we'll keep the temporary pipe in-house and then install the permanent pipe to be 466 00:27:07,292 --> 00:27:09,928 then buried underground and under the roadway to, 467 00:27:09,928 --> 00:27:13,031 to kind of live in conjunction with the new fish passage. 468 00:27:13,031 --> 00:27:13,965 So I got it. 469 00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:18,036 That's what that's what the cost is, is both temporary abandonment as well, 470 00:27:18,069 --> 00:27:22,240 because you'll be hauling out some of that old AC and disposing of it properly, 471 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,645 as well as getting a new permanent restrained joint. 472 00:27:26,878 --> 00:27:27,879 Everything's going to be held 473 00:27:27,879 --> 00:27:31,783 together real good and ductile iron to replace that AC, which is okay. 474 00:27:31,850 --> 00:27:32,550 Thank you. 475 00:27:34,085 --> 00:27:35,020 Thank you. 476 00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:38,023 Any further questions from council? 477 00:27:39,524 --> 00:27:39,891 Okay. 478 00:27:39,891 --> 00:27:43,395 Seeing none. Thank you, Director Davidson. 479 00:27:43,561 --> 00:27:46,665 Thank you for presenters 480 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:49,668 from paramedics in the state. 481 00:27:50,468 --> 00:27:52,370 Thank you. 482 00:27:52,370 --> 00:27:54,172 Thank you all. 483 00:27:54,172 --> 00:27:55,507 Okay. Thank you. 484 00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:55,840 Okay. 485 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,943 This evening I have myself on the agenda for item number 486 00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:02,947 C for our Water resource Recovery Facility update. 487 00:28:02,947 --> 00:28:06,184 I had an opportunity to talk with each of the council members earlier 488 00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:09,187 today of some of the. 489 00:28:09,721 --> 00:28:11,122 Oh. I'm sorry. 490 00:28:11,122 --> 00:28:12,290 Oh, great. Thank you. 491 00:28:12,290 --> 00:28:14,025 I guess I'm on their two times. 492 00:28:14,025 --> 00:28:14,659 Okay. 493 00:28:14,659 --> 00:28:16,828 I guess I'm on item B also. 494 00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:18,930 School zone discussion. 495 00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:20,832 Just an update for council. 496 00:28:20,832 --> 00:28:23,401 Myself and Mr. 497 00:28:23,401 --> 00:28:29,741 Wheaton submitted a letter to the state Dot engineer, Andy Larson, 498 00:28:29,841 --> 00:28:35,647 to review a request to keep the crosswalk at lane in place. 499 00:28:35,814 --> 00:28:38,316 So that's. That's under review by the state. 500 00:28:38,316 --> 00:28:41,319 I don't have any updated information on that. 501 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:46,357 And as you chief here, there's really not much to talk 502 00:28:46,391 --> 00:28:49,794 about with extending the school zone this evening. 503 00:28:49,828 --> 00:28:54,332 What I do want to report is, is that some of the early signage 504 00:28:54,332 --> 00:28:56,701 that was put up, I think, has been very helpful 505 00:28:56,701 --> 00:29:00,405 to notify citizens that they're entering into a school zone. 506 00:29:00,672 --> 00:29:01,840 You may have seen the trailers. 507 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,141 You come into town 508 00:29:03,141 --> 00:29:06,111 announcing that a school zone school's back in school 509 00:29:06,111 --> 00:29:11,583 and it's a pre alert citizens or people passing 510 00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:15,720 through on the state highway that there's a school that they're entering into. 511 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:18,757 So hopefully that will help out 512 00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:21,826 with the situation some and that. 513 00:29:21,826 --> 00:29:23,728 Any questions or comments from council. 514 00:29:23,728 --> 00:29:25,396 Council member Reid. 515 00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:28,600 Since we're going to leave 516 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,603 that crosswalk in there and the cameras 517 00:29:32,403 --> 00:29:35,006 for the school zone, would it be possible 518 00:29:35,006 --> 00:29:39,544 to raise the school zone in that area to 35 miles an hour, 519 00:29:39,711 --> 00:29:43,081 so that we're not slowing down to 20 for a small 520 00:29:43,081 --> 00:29:46,084 section? 521 00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:52,090 Yep. Yeah. 522 00:29:53,725 --> 00:29:56,361 I mean, right now we're probably still writing tickets, 523 00:29:56,361 --> 00:30:00,231 a lot of them for 20 miles an hour, when it could be 35. 524 00:30:02,967 --> 00:30:06,337 It's my understanding that the school zone speed limit is set by statute. 525 00:30:06,371 --> 00:30:08,406 That's 20 miles an hour. 526 00:30:08,406 --> 00:30:11,409 I could be wrong there, though. 527 00:30:12,544 --> 00:30:13,745 Yeah, right. 528 00:30:13,745 --> 00:30:16,748 I'm looking. I'm getting to you right now. 529 00:30:17,081 --> 00:30:20,051 I think I brought that up a little bit earlier today. 530 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,220 Yeah. 531 00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:26,558 The letter that was written to maintain the crosswalk in its current location. 532 00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:29,828 It basically acknowledged 533 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:33,998 that there will need to be safety improvements in that area of the highway. 534 00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:36,601 And it's under review right now. 535 00:30:36,601 --> 00:30:40,438 So once we get word back, we'll bring it back to you. 536 00:30:46,411 --> 00:30:48,513 Again, I just I don't think it works very well. 537 00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:52,684 Going from 55 to 20 back up to 35. 538 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:55,019 Back down to 20. 539 00:30:55,019 --> 00:30:58,156 I mean, we could leave it at 35 until the new school goes in 540 00:30:58,389 --> 00:31:01,392 all the way up to to the school, and 541 00:31:02,727 --> 00:31:05,830 we're going to put another crosswalk in it at Whitehawk. 542 00:31:07,232 --> 00:31:09,100 I, I believe 543 00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:12,704 that kind of defeats the purpose of of having the school zone be. 544 00:31:12,704 --> 00:31:16,941 The school zone is intended to be a slower zone to protect, protect the kids. 545 00:31:17,108 --> 00:31:18,476 I thought I thought the problem was that 546 00:31:18,476 --> 00:31:23,581 we had people speeding through there at 60 miles an hour, and at 35, 547 00:31:24,782 --> 00:31:27,518 I don't think it as big an issue, 548 00:31:27,518 --> 00:31:30,521 but that's just my opinion. 549 00:31:32,690 --> 00:31:33,124 Okay. 550 00:31:33,124 --> 00:31:34,859 Thank you. 551 00:31:34,859 --> 00:31:36,527 Attorney void. Yeah. 552 00:31:36,527 --> 00:31:42,433 So Council member Reid, if it if it is a designated school zone, 553 00:31:42,433 --> 00:31:48,239 state statute RCMP 4661 440 does say the maximum speed is 20 miles an hour. 554 00:31:49,474 --> 00:31:52,477 Okay. 555 00:31:55,513 --> 00:31:56,114 Yeah. 556 00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:57,382 That's it. 557 00:31:57,382 --> 00:32:00,785 The reason I asked, I got a ticket about 20 some years ago, 558 00:32:00,852 --> 00:32:06,557 30 some years ago in Algona for doing 15 in front of a 559 00:32:06,557 --> 00:32:10,194 a play area that had 12ft cyclone fences on it. 560 00:32:10,995 --> 00:32:13,631 I thought it was 25, 561 00:32:13,631 --> 00:32:17,268 so I thought probably be different, but that's a state law. 562 00:32:18,436 --> 00:32:20,772 The judge told me the city can make their zones 563 00:32:20,772 --> 00:32:23,508 whatever they want, but it's not city at state out there. 564 00:32:23,508 --> 00:32:27,612 Yeah, well, if it's a state highway, that's when I've been working 565 00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:28,746 with Chief Cabral on this. 566 00:32:28,746 --> 00:32:32,884 If it were talking about the main drag coming in, that is a state 567 00:32:32,917 --> 00:32:35,920 that is a state designated highway. So. 568 00:32:39,691 --> 00:32:41,426 Thank you. 569 00:32:41,426 --> 00:32:41,726 Thank you. 570 00:32:41,726 --> 00:32:44,729 Any other questions from council? 571 00:32:46,431 --> 00:32:47,031 Okay. 572 00:32:47,031 --> 00:32:48,900 See you then. We'll move on to item number. 573 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:52,403 See the Water Resource Recovery Facility update. 574 00:32:52,437 --> 00:32:56,307 And the opportunity to speak to each of you today about some 575 00:32:56,307 --> 00:33:00,211 of the challenges that we've been facing as we enter into the fall. 576 00:33:00,278 --> 00:33:05,483 Some of them are pretty substantial and may require us to to 577 00:33:05,516 --> 00:33:09,087 look at extension of our emergency declaration 578 00:33:09,087 --> 00:33:12,490 to be able to to work forward through some of the some of the issues. 579 00:33:12,523 --> 00:33:17,762 I have Engineer Hungerford here this evening and our director Davis, 580 00:33:17,762 --> 00:33:20,765 and to maybe update from their perspective 581 00:33:21,199 --> 00:33:24,002 the report that we had earlier today. 582 00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:25,303 Engineer Hungerford. 583 00:33:25,303 --> 00:33:28,439 I don't know if you want to talk about some of the issues we've discussed, 584 00:33:28,473 --> 00:33:30,208 have been regarding. 585 00:33:33,044 --> 00:33:36,114 We have the curtain separation in the lagoon. 586 00:33:36,114 --> 00:33:40,084 We have a failure in our SBR, one of our SBR basins. 587 00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:43,121 And if you wanted to talk to some of. 588 00:33:45,256 --> 00:33:46,991 Oh, okay. 589 00:33:46,991 --> 00:33:49,427 Okay. Thank you. 590 00:33:49,427 --> 00:33:51,462 Can you hear me okay. 591 00:33:51,462 --> 00:33:55,433 I don't know what specifically was shared in the report, but 592 00:33:55,433 --> 00:33:59,370 specifically some of the recent events that the mayor was just discussing 593 00:33:59,404 --> 00:34:03,608 are with relationship to the SBR basin. 594 00:34:03,608 --> 00:34:06,477 So one of the decanters, 595 00:34:06,477 --> 00:34:12,316 not totally sure what led to the failure, but there's a pipe between 596 00:34:12,316 --> 00:34:16,521 the floating decanter and the wall, and that pipe became separated. 597 00:34:16,554 --> 00:34:21,292 It's a PVC section of 16 inch pipe that's flanked on both ends, 598 00:34:21,292 --> 00:34:24,929 and it looks like the flange on one or both ends failed. 599 00:34:24,929 --> 00:34:28,733 And so what happened was that that pipe came, 600 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,238 became disconnected, and was temporarily supporting the decanter. 601 00:34:34,238 --> 00:34:38,309 And then as these decanters flow, when there was no longer 602 00:34:38,309 --> 00:34:43,381 water in their allowed it to, as the water level drained out, it fell. 603 00:34:43,381 --> 00:34:45,583 And that pipe is now physically disconnected 604 00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:48,619 from the plant engine laying on the bottom of the decanter. So 605 00:34:50,154 --> 00:34:52,023 essentially what the decanter is, 606 00:34:52,023 --> 00:34:55,026 is a mechanism that allows 607 00:34:55,026 --> 00:34:58,029 the clean water to be 608 00:34:58,463 --> 00:34:59,931 flow over a year 609 00:34:59,931 --> 00:35:02,900 and out through your discharge, 610 00:35:02,967 --> 00:35:05,103 through the basin, through your discharge, 611 00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:09,273 which is disinfected with the UV disinfection system. 612 00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:10,842 I know a lot of you went on plant 613 00:35:10,842 --> 00:35:14,879 tours and got opportunity to see the disinfection system in the basement, 614 00:35:14,879 --> 00:35:19,584 so that's where that clean water goes after you settle the solids decanter out. 615 00:35:19,584 --> 00:35:23,955 So that whole system is provided 616 00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:28,259 by was provided by a vendor by the name of aqua Aerobics. 617 00:35:28,259 --> 00:35:29,594 They're still in business. 618 00:35:29,594 --> 00:35:34,765 And so the recommendation I have to the city is to get Aqua out here 619 00:35:34,765 --> 00:35:38,302 to do an assessment of that piece of equipment 620 00:35:38,302 --> 00:35:41,272 from where it comes out of the wall, all the way through it 621 00:35:41,272 --> 00:35:44,709 to see, obviously, we need to source a new pipe. 622 00:35:45,009 --> 00:35:49,480 There's flexible connections where those flanges connect on each end 623 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:49,981 to make sure 624 00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:53,451 that those are ready to be reconnected, or if they recommend replacement. 625 00:35:53,451 --> 00:35:57,522 And then the condition of the the decanter itself, 626 00:35:57,522 --> 00:36:01,726 as I think it may have fallen and there may be some structural damage. 627 00:36:01,759 --> 00:36:04,262 I'd like to get a structural engineer down there as well. 628 00:36:04,262 --> 00:36:07,365 There's some pipe supports and general supports of the system 629 00:36:07,365 --> 00:36:09,000 to make sure that they're ready. 630 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,436 Once you get that decanter repair that they're ready 631 00:36:12,436 --> 00:36:15,439 to support that structure for. 632 00:36:15,439 --> 00:36:17,408 Obviously we've got some winter flows coming. 633 00:36:17,408 --> 00:36:19,210 So time is of the essence here 634 00:36:20,811 --> 00:36:23,314 with regard to the curtain and the lagoons. 635 00:36:23,314 --> 00:36:26,450 The city went through the recent lagoon dredging event 636 00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:31,189 and noticed that the curtain that separates the lagoon. 637 00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:33,424 So you've got a three cell system. 638 00:36:33,424 --> 00:36:35,793 Cells one and two are a little bit smaller. 639 00:36:35,793 --> 00:36:37,461 They're an error rated at flows 640 00:36:37,461 --> 00:36:41,332 from 1 to 2 and then into three, which is not aerated. 641 00:36:41,332 --> 00:36:44,368 And it's anaerobic where your solids store. 642 00:36:44,368 --> 00:36:45,670 And that's where we pull them out. 643 00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:49,106 During the dredging event, that curtain appears 644 00:36:49,106 --> 00:36:52,710 to be compromised, where the anchors are at the bottom of the lagoon. 645 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:55,913 And it's kind of free floating in there right now. 646 00:36:55,913 --> 00:36:57,148 So what? 647 00:36:57,148 --> 00:37:02,420 There's physical anchor points as well as weights as you can imagine. 648 00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:05,690 A, you know, imagine a fabric 649 00:37:05,690 --> 00:37:08,926 curtain in a pool has to have weights in it. 650 00:37:08,926 --> 00:37:12,630 I believe that those anchor points and those weights have been disconnected 651 00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:17,101 and are put in a tremendous amount of strain on that top wire 652 00:37:17,168 --> 00:37:18,302 that holds it in place. 653 00:37:18,302 --> 00:37:23,107 So I believe there's also a bit of solids bulking up against it, 654 00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:24,075 laying against it. 655 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:26,611 So it's not something that you could 656 00:37:26,611 --> 00:37:29,046 go move with a backhoe or something like that. 657 00:37:29,046 --> 00:37:33,484 As you imagine all of that water pressure and solid sitting against it. 658 00:37:33,718 --> 00:37:38,222 So need to understand what is failed there, do an assessment, 659 00:37:38,222 --> 00:37:39,757 and the only way you're really going to get to 660 00:37:39,757 --> 00:37:42,026 that is literally to get to the bottom of the lagoon 661 00:37:42,026 --> 00:37:46,264 and see those anchor points and see what the condition of the points are, 662 00:37:46,330 --> 00:37:48,466 the connection points and the cables to and from, 663 00:37:48,466 --> 00:37:51,669 as well as those ballast weights that hold it down. 664 00:37:52,403 --> 00:37:54,872 So I think it's an opportunity as well. 665 00:37:54,872 --> 00:37:59,110 Well, based on three offline to take a look at everything else in there. 666 00:37:59,310 --> 00:38:01,445 High weather flows. You're going to need those three basins. 667 00:38:01,445 --> 00:38:05,650 So you've got diffusers aeration system things like that. 668 00:38:06,250 --> 00:38:08,386 While people are in there, take a comprehensive 669 00:38:08,386 --> 00:38:11,956 look at the condition of the basin to make sure it's ready to go. 670 00:38:14,025 --> 00:38:14,358 Great. 671 00:38:14,358 --> 00:38:17,528 I think Engineer Hungerford, Director Davison, 672 00:38:17,528 --> 00:38:20,531 did you have any comments this evening? 673 00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:34,645 Yeah, I would just echo a lot of 674 00:38:34,645 --> 00:38:38,549 of what Jake was talking about in regards to the lagoon and the curtain. 675 00:38:38,549 --> 00:38:41,185 It would also be important 676 00:38:41,185 --> 00:38:45,089 once we get to the levels that we can do anything with that curtain. 677 00:38:45,089 --> 00:38:49,226 It's important to note that while our team was trying to dislodge, a portion of it 678 00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:54,365 had gotten stuck in some of the mechanisms in basin one, it had actually frayed 679 00:38:54,365 --> 00:38:57,802 and gotten in there that as they were trying to tighten or pull, 680 00:38:57,802 --> 00:39:02,039 it was actually coming apart as they were maneuvering it. 681 00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:05,710 So it's really not anything you can look at and, 682 00:39:06,143 --> 00:39:08,679 you know, boat out there and take care of as you go. 683 00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,848 It just kind of deteriorates over time. 684 00:39:10,848 --> 00:39:12,383 And that's what it's done. 685 00:39:12,383 --> 00:39:16,120 Time is is not been real favorable to that stuff out there. 686 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,024 So the other thing to think about is if we do get the opportunity to get 687 00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:24,562 that lagoon down, where we can assess that infrastructure underneath, 688 00:39:24,562 --> 00:39:27,732 it also has some tea, some tea framing in there. 689 00:39:27,732 --> 00:39:30,701 Aside from the anchors that are also drilled into the bottom, 690 00:39:30,701 --> 00:39:34,605 there'd be an awesome opportunity to take a look at the lining itself. 691 00:39:34,672 --> 00:39:37,675 I know that we've had some discussions with the Department of Ecology 692 00:39:37,675 --> 00:39:40,678 about the need to beef that up and make sure 693 00:39:40,678 --> 00:39:43,681 it's robust, and two layers now is what's required. 694 00:39:43,681 --> 00:39:46,517 So that would be an additional opportunity. 695 00:39:46,517 --> 00:39:51,222 We also have have been working through, and I think we had Glenn here 696 00:39:51,288 --> 00:39:55,726 talking about the importance of of controls and the system 697 00:39:55,726 --> 00:39:57,728 and those things, being able to talk to themselves. 698 00:39:57,728 --> 00:40:03,234 And it's really been a challenge for for staff and for parametric, for that matter, 699 00:40:03,234 --> 00:40:07,571 to come out and troubleshoot things when perhaps it doesn't tell the story. 700 00:40:07,571 --> 00:40:09,039 Like we would like it to a lot. 701 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:11,609 If you can kind of liken it to it's telling you 702 00:40:11,609 --> 00:40:14,945 something's wrong or something's not operating or it's coming on properly, 703 00:40:14,945 --> 00:40:17,081 but you can't dive into the actual 704 00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:20,117 analytics of what's going on without posting somebody up there 705 00:40:20,117 --> 00:40:24,855 and watching the process either fail or succeed without people being. 706 00:40:24,889 --> 00:40:27,491 And we've had some challenges with that as well. 707 00:40:29,193 --> 00:40:32,396 The SBR mixer one was was pulled. 708 00:40:32,396 --> 00:40:33,397 I don't know if 709 00:40:33,397 --> 00:40:37,234 I got a little bit more of an update and we've sent that out for for repairs. 710 00:40:37,234 --> 00:40:41,505 We have we had a ground faulting issue in in SBR one, the mixer one, 711 00:40:41,572 --> 00:40:46,944 the blower one is out of service currently and we're procuring a spare. 712 00:40:47,111 --> 00:40:51,649 Looking to a neighboring municipality of City of Yelm has been real nice. 713 00:40:51,682 --> 00:40:53,851 It's kind of was a sister plant to what we had. 714 00:40:53,851 --> 00:40:56,153 They've since changed and upgraded their plant, 715 00:40:56,153 --> 00:40:59,723 so they did save a bunch of stuff for us that that were able to kind of 716 00:40:59,757 --> 00:41:00,758 look through, and a lot of 717 00:41:00,758 --> 00:41:04,995 it was actually refurbished fairly soon before they decommissioned their plant. 718 00:41:04,995 --> 00:41:07,164 So it's not all real bad and kind of helps us 719 00:41:07,164 --> 00:41:10,468 without having to go to the eBay process that you guys were talking 720 00:41:10,668 --> 00:41:15,272 talked about before, just to kind of touch on the aqua aerobics. 721 00:41:15,272 --> 00:41:18,275 We did approve them to come out. 722 00:41:18,275 --> 00:41:21,145 We've signed that document. We're just waiting for scheduling. 723 00:41:21,145 --> 00:41:24,081 I have yet to hear from them, but but our team is ready to go. 724 00:41:24,081 --> 00:41:26,984 We're we're currently in the process of getting down into that third 725 00:41:26,984 --> 00:41:31,722 basin and pressure wash it out and really get it clean so that we can 726 00:41:31,722 --> 00:41:35,759 out of the suggestions and working with the mayor to really go through there 727 00:41:35,793 --> 00:41:39,263 while that basin is empty, which we don't want it to be empty. 728 00:41:39,263 --> 00:41:42,566 But while it is, let's really look at all the components 729 00:41:42,566 --> 00:41:45,569 inside there and so we don't get caught. 730 00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:48,239 Maybe missing something if it needs to be replaced. 731 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,407 I think it's it's prudent to just 732 00:41:50,407 --> 00:41:54,211 get in there and replace that stuff now instead of guesswork later. 733 00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:57,248 The solids are starting 734 00:41:57,248 --> 00:42:00,551 to show some liquid a little bit, which is good. 735 00:42:00,584 --> 00:42:05,089 Obviously nothing near what we need, but it is 736 00:42:06,123 --> 00:42:07,157 starting to get a little 737 00:42:07,157 --> 00:42:10,160 bit of liquid on top of it. 738 00:42:11,228 --> 00:42:14,398 We are working with the Department of Ecology on the mitigation 739 00:42:14,398 --> 00:42:17,001 around the edge of the legume. That is done. 740 00:42:17,001 --> 00:42:18,035 We're waiting on the sampling 741 00:42:18,035 --> 00:42:21,839 analysis plan, working with parametric to submit the Doe for approval, 742 00:42:21,939 --> 00:42:25,709 and then comply with the last step, which would be the actual 743 00:42:25,709 --> 00:42:28,712 sampling itself. 744 00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:32,116 Yeah, we've worked on the PMS on the blowers as well. 745 00:42:32,116 --> 00:42:36,687 So our staff is is grinding through it and doing what we can to be proactive 746 00:42:36,687 --> 00:42:39,690 and try to really it's 747 00:42:40,591 --> 00:42:43,327 it's in need of some repairs and hopefully, you know, 748 00:42:43,327 --> 00:42:47,164 we wet weathers come in and fingers crossed with the last thing we want to do 749 00:42:47,164 --> 00:42:50,434 is have some other thing go on, go wrong in there. 750 00:42:50,434 --> 00:42:54,238 That then kind of negates all the successes we had with 751 00:42:54,238 --> 00:42:55,639 what Fire Mountain did for us. 752 00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:59,543 So there's still a need to get rid of solids, and still a need 753 00:42:59,543 --> 00:43:03,047 to kind of keep our momentum on this thing and hopefully get it, 754 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,116 get it back to where we can just have a couple guys maintaining it. 755 00:43:06,817 --> 00:43:08,152 Great, great. 756 00:43:08,152 --> 00:43:09,520 Thank you, Mr. Davidson. 757 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,122 Councilmember Perez yeah. 758 00:43:12,122 --> 00:43:16,393 So the flange fell off down to the bottom of the lagoon, is that correct? 759 00:43:16,994 --> 00:43:19,563 I don't know that we've determined that fully. 760 00:43:19,563 --> 00:43:21,432 I can layman's terms. 761 00:43:21,432 --> 00:43:25,869 When I arrived there the the flange if you can envision where this 762 00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:30,708 the large 18 inch I believe 16, 16 or 18 inch pipe bolts 763 00:43:30,708 --> 00:43:34,445 together with a flange real close to the, to the wall, the concrete wall, 764 00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:37,581 it was loose and kind of wedged underneath it. 765 00:43:37,581 --> 00:43:40,184 So the whole thing was teetering 766 00:43:40,184 --> 00:43:42,353 with all the weight being this way on the bottom of it. 767 00:43:42,353 --> 00:43:44,121 And then when it fell, it kind of broke. 768 00:43:44,121 --> 00:43:47,124 But we have not been able to really determine, 769 00:43:47,191 --> 00:43:50,461 I'm sure Jake has, because that's the smart people are. 770 00:43:50,461 --> 00:43:53,631 But there was a flex fitting in there with 771 00:43:54,932 --> 00:43:55,499 almost like 772 00:43:55,499 --> 00:43:59,403 two little hinges that fit on both sides of it to kind of firm up 773 00:43:59,403 --> 00:44:04,074 that flex connection as that as it floats within the levels in there. 774 00:44:04,074 --> 00:44:08,545 I don't know if we've determined a cause other than just age and where, 775 00:44:08,979 --> 00:44:12,683 but yes, it broke free from the wall sunk underneath. 776 00:44:12,716 --> 00:44:14,952 It was kind of floating free in there. 777 00:44:14,952 --> 00:44:16,720 Did it affect the flow? 778 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:17,988 Did it affect the flow? 779 00:44:17,988 --> 00:44:20,124 It essentially took itself offline. 780 00:44:20,124 --> 00:44:22,326 I mean, it it doesn't operate at that point. 781 00:44:22,326 --> 00:44:23,060 It drained. 782 00:44:23,060 --> 00:44:26,797 We had to drain it, decant it, then it fell off some of the standards 783 00:44:26,797 --> 00:44:27,965 that mayor was talking about. 784 00:44:27,965 --> 00:44:31,902 They sit up on big supports and the whole unit fell to the floor, 785 00:44:32,002 --> 00:44:35,939 which is typically I think that's roughly about 30ft deep. 786 00:44:35,939 --> 00:44:37,207 JC oh, wow. 787 00:44:37,207 --> 00:44:40,978 So so did I understand that that's something 788 00:44:41,045 --> 00:44:43,447 you guys can fix yourselves then. 789 00:44:43,447 --> 00:44:44,715 Is that something you can do? 790 00:44:45,816 --> 00:44:48,952 No, no, I mean, I don't want to say no. 791 00:44:48,986 --> 00:44:52,756 Of course, we probably could figure out a quick fix for just about anything. 792 00:44:52,756 --> 00:44:55,859 I think with a with a failure to that degree 793 00:44:56,060 --> 00:45:00,030 especially, you know, this is this type of, of repair. 794 00:45:00,030 --> 00:45:04,101 We we rely real heavily with our, our engineering partners here. 795 00:45:04,101 --> 00:45:09,840 And the determination is to get the best bang for our buck would be to get 796 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:15,379 with aqua aerobics the actual design of and let's, let's fix it correctly. 797 00:45:15,379 --> 00:45:17,281 So we'll have to build a new system. 798 00:45:17,281 --> 00:45:19,550 It's going to essentially be the same but more robust. 799 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:20,951 Instead of PVC. 800 00:45:20,951 --> 00:45:25,556 We're talking about some other pipe materials that may help last, perhaps 801 00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:30,060 fortifying those connections if we can, so that those 802 00:45:30,127 --> 00:45:31,228 hold a little better and then 803 00:45:31,228 --> 00:45:34,231 go through the rest of the components that are currently offline. 804 00:45:34,331 --> 00:45:35,032 Thank you. 805 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:36,600 Thank you. 806 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,103 Yeah, I think the key to it is, is to find the root 807 00:45:39,103 --> 00:45:42,106 cause of the failure of what caused it and then correct it. 808 00:45:42,139 --> 00:45:42,439 Right. 809 00:45:42,439 --> 00:45:45,509 We're even looking at the process with the aeration. 810 00:45:45,509 --> 00:45:48,045 With the move, the air moving through the tank 811 00:45:48,045 --> 00:45:51,081 itself is creating a lot of movement on that decanter. 812 00:45:51,281 --> 00:45:53,550 Maybe that could be a contributing factor. 813 00:45:53,550 --> 00:45:56,820 So I think some of that root cause work is happening right now. 814 00:45:57,821 --> 00:46:00,824 Engineer Hungerford I've got a photo up there. 815 00:46:00,824 --> 00:46:03,827 Better to explain with a photo if you can see it. 816 00:46:05,262 --> 00:46:06,930 But essentially, 817 00:46:06,930 --> 00:46:11,401 like Director Davison was explaining, is out of the wall here. 818 00:46:11,401 --> 00:46:12,970 So this is in the concrete basin. 819 00:46:12,970 --> 00:46:14,104 It's not in the lagoon itself, 820 00:46:14,104 --> 00:46:18,075 but out of the wall here is that flexible connection. 821 00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:20,944 And then you can see the pipe in the bottom here. 822 00:46:20,944 --> 00:46:23,514 This elbow is not associated with the system. 823 00:46:23,514 --> 00:46:26,416 So it goes from this flexible connection here. 824 00:46:26,416 --> 00:46:30,487 There's the pipe at the bottom of the basin that sits 825 00:46:30,487 --> 00:46:36,059 on this pipe support that was damaged to this large round piece of equipment here. 826 00:46:36,059 --> 00:46:38,128 That's the floating decanter okay. 827 00:46:38,128 --> 00:46:41,231 The top of that opens to allow liquid to flow into it. 828 00:46:41,265 --> 00:46:44,701 It goes down through an elbow into this pipe 829 00:46:45,402 --> 00:46:48,205 and then out through 830 00:46:49,206 --> 00:46:50,474 the wall there 831 00:46:50,474 --> 00:46:52,609 you can see on the sides there there's two 832 00:46:52,609 --> 00:46:56,246 shackles that essentially act as a hinge, that allow it to move 833 00:46:56,346 --> 00:46:59,483 vertically up and down, but prevent horizontal movement. 834 00:46:59,483 --> 00:47:01,885 So it only flexes in an up 835 00:47:01,885 --> 00:47:05,589 and down position so you don't get your decanter off tilt. 836 00:47:05,656 --> 00:47:10,761 But that's that's the after drainage post photo 837 00:47:10,794 --> 00:47:13,797 there of the basin itself. 838 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,902 Councilmember Reed, 839 00:47:18,902 --> 00:47:21,905 is this the first time in this system that this has happened? 840 00:47:21,905 --> 00:47:22,840 Yeah. 841 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,476 So is there a way we can, 842 00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:31,181 once this is upgraded to get the other two cells checked out? 843 00:47:32,349 --> 00:47:36,620 I mean, they're probably going to fail soon too, I would guess. 844 00:47:36,753 --> 00:47:37,120 Yeah. 845 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,755 So part of the process 846 00:47:38,755 --> 00:47:42,459 with aqua aerobics coming out is having them make recommendations. 847 00:47:42,826 --> 00:47:44,828 Your existing pipe is PVC. 848 00:47:44,828 --> 00:47:50,100 They have since upgraded to a stainless steel option of that exact pipe. 849 00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:51,702 With the plan on each end. 850 00:47:51,702 --> 00:47:55,439 I think stainless steel is extremely expensive, but from a life 851 00:47:55,439 --> 00:48:01,445 cycles perspective, how long does the city intend to keep this process operating? 852 00:48:01,478 --> 00:48:05,916 PVC is going to last a long time, so if you're going to be replacing this 853 00:48:05,916 --> 00:48:10,020 in the next 10 to 15 years, PVC is probably a good option to consider 854 00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:11,088 depending on price. 855 00:48:11,088 --> 00:48:15,859 But like you said, what's the condition of the other two in the other basin? 856 00:48:15,859 --> 00:48:20,764 Should we plan maintenance to take those offline and replace the pipes as well? 857 00:48:20,797 --> 00:48:22,900 Can we Corey. 858 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:28,272 Or you, can we get down far enough to look at the other ones without 859 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,507 during the whole system, down 860 00:48:30,507 --> 00:48:33,510 as far as we're doing with this one, since it's not broken, 861 00:48:35,145 --> 00:48:36,580 I don't know the specifics 862 00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:39,583 of the dynamics of each individual chamber. 863 00:48:39,983 --> 00:48:42,619 All three are are identical. Correct? 864 00:48:42,619 --> 00:48:45,622 I don't know if they're sized exactly the same. 865 00:48:45,989 --> 00:48:48,992 Are all three the one I think is 866 00:48:49,393 --> 00:48:50,127 okay. 867 00:48:50,127 --> 00:48:54,264 I think what the hope is, Councilmember Reed, is, is that 868 00:48:54,965 --> 00:48:57,434 we can 869 00:48:57,434 --> 00:49:01,104 get a handle on the system, on the whole 870 00:49:02,339 --> 00:49:05,342 infrastructure that's there, so that we can 871 00:49:06,209 --> 00:49:09,579 operate at a level that will allow us to do that kind of thing. 872 00:49:09,579 --> 00:49:12,649 Right now, when we lose an entire basin 873 00:49:12,649 --> 00:49:15,619 or we have such lagoon issues, and 874 00:49:16,486 --> 00:49:20,090 it doesn't give us the luxury of any redundancy, if that makes sense. 875 00:49:20,090 --> 00:49:21,625 So I think 876 00:49:23,060 --> 00:49:25,829 absolutely it is in my 877 00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:28,365 I don't know how far out this is as quick as we can get, 878 00:49:28,365 --> 00:49:32,069 but yes, this would be under normal operating procedures. 879 00:49:32,402 --> 00:49:36,139 All things being equal, we would schedule these kinds of things 880 00:49:36,139 --> 00:49:38,241 while the other two basins are running great. 881 00:49:38,241 --> 00:49:41,244 And like the mayor mentioned, we're aerating properly. 882 00:49:42,479 --> 00:49:45,148 It's just we've kind of been under the gun 883 00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:49,019 as we go to to stay above water, so to speak. 884 00:49:49,019 --> 00:49:52,322 And I don't think right now we would we would want to do that. 885 00:49:52,322 --> 00:49:53,957 But in the future, absolutely. 886 00:49:53,957 --> 00:49:57,995 We want to take advantage of our ability to schedule higher 887 00:49:57,995 --> 00:50:01,765 level maintenance, as opposed to just fixing things as they go. 888 00:50:01,798 --> 00:50:03,300 Yes. Right. 889 00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:05,802 You have any questions? 890 00:50:05,802 --> 00:50:07,604 Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Deputy Mayor. 891 00:50:09,406 --> 00:50:10,073 So how many 892 00:50:10,073 --> 00:50:14,311 basins do we have operating right now? Two. 893 00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:16,546 Two. Sold. 894 00:50:16,546 --> 00:50:19,249 When I went there, one was being cleaned out. 895 00:50:19,249 --> 00:50:22,252 Is that one now up and running? 896 00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:23,220 Yeah. 897 00:50:23,220 --> 00:50:27,424 So okay so we're running on two and we've got one down. Yes. 898 00:50:27,424 --> 00:50:31,395 But as I mentioned in the list I have there are various components. 899 00:50:32,329 --> 00:50:35,799 Blower one is on the Fritz but it's still able to work. 900 00:50:35,799 --> 00:50:38,402 But basin three is completely offline. 901 00:50:38,402 --> 00:50:40,203 So it's it's mix and match. 902 00:50:40,203 --> 00:50:44,307 But for all intents and purposes we are processing wastewater 903 00:50:44,307 --> 00:50:48,445 into two basins right now as best we can. 904 00:50:48,478 --> 00:50:51,314 Okay. Thank you, 905 00:50:51,314 --> 00:50:52,949 thank you. 906 00:50:52,949 --> 00:50:54,251 Okay, great. 907 00:50:54,251 --> 00:50:56,820 Thank you, Mr. Davidson. 908 00:50:56,820 --> 00:50:59,823 Seeing other questions. 909 00:51:00,524 --> 00:51:01,291 Okay. 910 00:51:01,291 --> 00:51:03,794 Looks like we have roundtable discussion. 911 00:51:03,794 --> 00:51:07,431 Any items that council would like to bring up to discuss before a meeting? 912 00:51:07,431 --> 00:51:11,668 Or would you have is your desire to take a five minute break and return at 6 p.m. 913 00:51:11,668 --> 00:51:13,570 for the business meeting? 914 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:17,340 Okay. 915 00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:21,044 Well, we'll we'll recess until 6 p.m. 916 00:51:21,044 --> 00:51:24,047 and start the business meeting at the time. 917 00:51:36,359 --> 00:51:37,894 Meeting of September 9th. 918 00:51:37,894 --> 00:51:39,563 Back into 919 00:51:39,563 --> 00:51:42,566 this portion of the meeting. 920 00:51:42,699 --> 00:51:43,733 Excuse me. Here. 921 00:51:43,733 --> 00:51:47,471 This portion of the meeting will allow council to make motions on agenda items. 922 00:51:47,504 --> 00:51:49,106 Council discussion may follow. 923 00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:52,943 Once a motion is entertained, audience members will have the opportunity 924 00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:57,214 to make comments on items that are not on the agenda, or may request 925 00:51:57,214 --> 00:52:00,750 to provide comment on an agenda item prior to the vote of a motion 926 00:52:02,285 --> 00:52:02,719 Council. 927 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,689 Do we have any requests for additions or modifications to the agenda 928 00:52:05,689 --> 00:52:08,692 is prepared? 929 00:52:10,927 --> 00:52:11,528 Seeing none, 930 00:52:11,528 --> 00:52:15,665 we'll move on to this portion of the the meeting for public comments. 931 00:52:15,665 --> 00:52:18,668 This is an opportunity for the public to make comments to the Council 932 00:52:18,735 --> 00:52:22,239 about any matter or city business that is not on the agenda. 933 00:52:29,212 --> 00:52:29,646 Madam 934 00:52:29,646 --> 00:52:32,782 clerk, do we have anyone who would wish to speak this evening? 935 00:52:32,782 --> 00:52:35,785 We did have one person sign up. 936 00:52:36,753 --> 00:52:37,187 Okay. 937 00:52:37,187 --> 00:52:39,589 First on our list this evening is Mr. 938 00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:40,290 Mason G. 939 00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:43,293 Hooper. 940 00:52:44,895 --> 00:52:47,564 Okay, I'll read in the public comment rules for you. 941 00:52:47,564 --> 00:52:51,568 Prior to your start, please begin by providing us with your name 942 00:52:51,568 --> 00:52:55,272 and general location of residents inside or outside the city of. 943 00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:59,042 If you ask a question of a council, 944 00:52:59,042 --> 00:53:03,580 the council's rules do not allow for back and forth dialog. 945 00:53:04,614 --> 00:53:07,150 If action is requested, the chair will refer the matter 946 00:53:07,150 --> 00:53:10,787 to the appropriate administrative staff member or to committee. 947 00:53:11,221 --> 00:53:14,324 If you'd like to be contacted, please check. 948 00:53:14,391 --> 00:53:16,927 Yes, and I see you. 949 00:53:16,927 --> 00:53:19,396 You've checked that already, sir. 950 00:53:19,396 --> 00:53:23,600 For on the information contact sign up sheet. 951 00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:26,269 You'll have three minutes to speak. 952 00:53:26,269 --> 00:53:28,838 At the end of your time, you'll hear an alarm. 953 00:53:28,838 --> 00:53:29,973 Please use that alarm 954 00:53:29,973 --> 00:53:33,777 as a notification to finish your thoughts and a sentence or two at most. 955 00:53:33,810 --> 00:53:37,180 The chair will stop if the comment extends beyond this time. 956 00:53:37,814 --> 00:53:40,183 Mr. Hooper, you're good to go. Thank you. 957 00:53:40,183 --> 00:53:42,219 My name is Mason G. Hooper. 958 00:53:42,219 --> 00:53:45,388 I live in Village Green within city limits, 959 00:53:45,455 --> 00:53:48,858 right back, sort of near where the drainage basin is. 960 00:53:48,892 --> 00:53:52,462 I wanted to actually start with something I didn't include on the form, 961 00:53:52,462 --> 00:53:55,465 and thank the mayor for requesting an extension of, 962 00:53:55,465 --> 00:53:58,368 or the permanency of the crosswalk at the school zone. 963 00:53:58,368 --> 00:54:03,540 I also wanted to ask that the council consider adding additional signage 964 00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:06,977 within Village Green, as it can be very unclear where 965 00:54:07,010 --> 00:54:10,013 in that sort of turnoff the school zone begins. 966 00:54:10,046 --> 00:54:13,350 Is it within Village Green right there where the students still go, 967 00:54:13,383 --> 00:54:16,019 or is it specifically once you're on the road? 968 00:54:16,019 --> 00:54:19,889 Outside of that, I've been seeing a lot of and I'm sure I've spoken 969 00:54:19,889 --> 00:54:24,561 with some of the people here online discourse regarding the flock cameras. 970 00:54:24,561 --> 00:54:28,298 And I wanted to say that irrespective of the legality of these cameras, 971 00:54:28,331 --> 00:54:33,803 irrespective of how they're used, I fear that the growing prevalence 972 00:54:33,803 --> 00:54:35,438 of these types of mass surveillance 973 00:54:35,438 --> 00:54:39,743 technologies will have a chilling effect on First Amendment protected activities. 974 00:54:39,743 --> 00:54:42,779 And I don't just mean free speech, but other aspects 975 00:54:42,779 --> 00:54:46,349 of the First Amendment, like free association or free travel. 976 00:54:46,416 --> 00:54:51,788 The idea that just because I can see you from the public street, that the Founding 977 00:54:51,788 --> 00:54:56,559 Fathers contemplated mass surveillance, as we have it now, over all streets. 978 00:54:56,626 --> 00:54:59,763 I don't really think that that tracks, and I think that people 979 00:54:59,763 --> 00:55:03,800 will exercise their rights less often because of that. 980 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:06,803 I know that it's worth sacrificing some of our rights 981 00:55:06,803 --> 00:55:08,938 and freedoms in order to have protections. 982 00:55:08,938 --> 00:55:12,942 But I have to question, is this sacrifice worth it? 983 00:55:12,976 --> 00:55:17,213 Is the continual degradation of our Fourth Amendment 984 00:55:17,213 --> 00:55:20,383 privacy really adequate? 985 00:55:21,251 --> 00:55:21,851 Thank you. 986 00:55:21,851 --> 00:55:24,287 I yield my time. 987 00:55:24,287 --> 00:55:25,722 Sorry. It's the first time I've done this. 988 00:55:25,722 --> 00:55:28,091 Thank you, I appreciate it. 989 00:55:28,091 --> 00:55:31,761 The flock the flock issues will be on the next meeting of the Committee of Whole. 990 00:55:32,028 --> 00:55:34,631 Just for your information. Thank you. 991 00:55:38,935 --> 00:55:39,769 Madam clerk, do we 992 00:55:39,769 --> 00:55:42,772 have anyone online who would wish to comment this evening? 993 00:55:42,806 --> 00:55:44,507 No, ma'am. Okay, great. 994 00:55:44,507 --> 00:55:45,508 See you then. 995 00:55:45,508 --> 00:55:47,444 We'll move on to the next item of our agenda. 996 00:55:47,444 --> 00:55:50,647 The consent agenda item. 997 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:57,120 A claims voucher list dated list dated September 9th, 2026. 998 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,691 Council in the in the amount of 1.1 million 999 00:56:01,725 --> 00:56:08,131 $126,973.33, which includes voucher number 59. 1000 00:56:08,164 --> 00:56:08,531 Zero. 1001 00:56:08,531 --> 00:56:14,270 46 through 59 zero 96 or excuse me? 98. 1002 00:56:14,304 --> 00:56:20,110 The electronic fund transfers in the amount of $10,768.11 1003 00:56:20,443 --> 00:56:27,016 for grand total of $1,137,741.44. 1004 00:56:27,584 --> 00:56:29,052 Payroll. Voucher. 1005 00:56:29,052 --> 00:56:30,520 Payroll. Electronic deposit. 1006 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:37,560 Transmissions in the amount of $288,967.13, for the ground total 1007 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,965 of $288,967.13 1008 00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:47,103 for the period covering August 16th through 31st, 2026. 1009 00:56:47,537 --> 00:56:48,671 Meeting minutes. 1010 00:56:48,671 --> 00:56:53,977 Special Meeting August 25th, 2026 and Council Meeting 1011 00:56:54,411 --> 00:56:57,414 August 26th, 2026. 1012 00:56:58,815 --> 00:56:59,249 Council. 1013 00:56:59,249 --> 00:57:00,550 Are there any items that we'd like 1014 00:57:00,550 --> 00:57:05,922 you would like to have pulled from the consent agenda this evening? 1015 00:57:08,224 --> 00:57:09,826 Nope. 1016 00:57:09,826 --> 00:57:12,462 Moved to approve the agenda is prepared. 1017 00:57:12,462 --> 00:57:15,598 Second motion made by Council member 1018 00:57:15,799 --> 00:57:18,802 Tracy, seconded by Deputy Mayor Sprawl. 1019 00:57:18,968 --> 00:57:19,736 Move. 1020 00:57:19,736 --> 00:57:22,739 The motion was to move as prepared. 1021 00:57:23,106 --> 00:57:25,108 All those in favor? Aye. 1022 00:57:25,108 --> 00:57:27,577 All those opposed? 1023 00:57:27,577 --> 00:57:30,580 Motion passes. 1024 00:57:32,415 --> 00:57:33,616 Next I'm going to honor. 1025 00:57:33,616 --> 00:57:38,922 Item of business is new business AB 2699 Hazard Mitigation Plan, 1026 00:57:39,088 --> 00:57:43,526 which is to discussion of the state approved 1027 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,297 FEMA approved hazard mitigation plan is prepared this evening. 1028 00:57:47,297 --> 00:57:53,303 I have police chief for to answer any of your questions this evening. 1029 00:57:53,303 --> 00:57:53,670 Council. 1030 00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:56,940 Do we have any questions for this agenda, 1031 00:57:56,940 --> 00:57:59,943 Bill? 1032 00:58:00,243 --> 00:58:00,977 Okay. 1033 00:58:00,977 --> 00:58:04,781 Seeing none, I will entertain a motion to begin a discussion. 1034 00:58:06,583 --> 00:58:08,585 Move to adopt resolution 1035 00:58:08,585 --> 00:58:13,289 number 26 2020 2625. 1036 00:58:13,289 --> 00:58:17,093 Adopting the region five All Hazard Mitigation 1037 00:58:17,093 --> 00:58:20,230 Plan, 2025 Dash 1038 00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:24,067 2030 additions and the city of 14 1039 00:58:24,167 --> 00:58:28,538 Annex to Region five Hazard Mitigation Plan. 1040 00:58:29,005 --> 00:58:29,339 Second 1041 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,141 motion made by Council 1042 00:58:32,141 --> 00:58:35,144 Member Williams, seconded by Councilmember Tracy. 1043 00:58:35,211 --> 00:58:39,849 Motion to adapt resolution 20 2625 1044 00:58:41,417 --> 00:58:44,420 comments from Council. 1045 00:58:47,524 --> 00:58:49,726 Councilmember Williams can speak in favor of the motion. 1046 00:58:49,726 --> 00:58:52,495 And then Councilor Tracy, 1047 00:58:52,495 --> 00:58:53,630 thank you. Great. 1048 00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:55,732 Thank you, Councilmember Williams. 1049 00:58:55,732 --> 00:58:57,166 Any comments? 1050 00:58:57,166 --> 00:59:00,203 Just we've went over this, 1051 00:59:00,803 --> 00:59:04,340 you know, with quite a bit of scrutiny. And 1052 00:59:05,341 --> 00:59:08,845 chief has done a great job in presenting it. 1053 00:59:08,845 --> 00:59:11,581 I think it's just time to pass it. 1054 00:59:11,581 --> 00:59:14,017 Thank you Councilmember Tracy. Any comments? 1055 00:59:14,017 --> 00:59:18,488 I agree 100% would have been done a lot sooner if Pierce County 1056 00:59:18,521 --> 00:59:21,491 would have got their act together and got it taken care of there. 1057 00:59:21,491 --> 00:59:24,627 So we've been trying to get it through for quite a while, 1058 00:59:24,627 --> 00:59:27,230 so I'm just glad we're planning on getting there. 1059 00:59:27,230 --> 00:59:28,131 Good job. 1060 00:59:30,667 --> 00:59:31,134 Thank you. 1061 00:59:31,134 --> 00:59:34,571 Any comments from questions from citizens? 1062 00:59:34,704 --> 00:59:35,905 Okay. 1063 00:59:35,905 --> 00:59:39,609 Councilmember Hogan, I just want to thank Chief 1064 00:59:39,609 --> 00:59:42,645 and staff for the hard work on this process. 1065 00:59:42,679 --> 00:59:45,548 It's taken a long time, so thank you. 1066 00:59:45,548 --> 00:59:47,483 I totally support it. Great. 1067 00:59:47,483 --> 00:59:48,618 Thank you. 1068 00:59:48,618 --> 00:59:51,621 Any other comments from Council? 1069 00:59:51,721 --> 00:59:54,724 Any comments from the audience 1070 00:59:55,291 --> 00:59:56,059 seeing none. 1071 00:59:56,059 --> 00:59:57,193 All those in favor? 1072 00:59:57,193 --> 00:59:59,896 I all those opposed. 1073 00:59:59,896 --> 01:00:02,899 Motion passes as prepared. 1074 01:00:03,967 --> 01:00:05,969 Okay. 1075 01:00:05,969 --> 01:00:09,005 I have the next item on this executive session. 1076 01:00:09,072 --> 01:00:11,874 Any items for executive session this evening? None. We do not. 1077 01:00:11,874 --> 01:00:12,942 Mayor. Great. 1078 01:00:12,942 --> 01:00:15,545 Thank you. 1079 01:00:15,545 --> 01:00:17,880 At this time that a motion for adjournment. 1080 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,015 Move to adjourn. 1081 01:00:19,015 --> 01:00:22,685 Second motion made by Councilmember Williams, seconded by 1082 01:00:22,819 --> 01:00:25,321 Deputy Mayor Sproul. 1083 01:00:25,321 --> 01:00:26,456 All those in favor? 1084 01:00:26,456 --> 01:00:29,459 I was opposed. 1085 01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:31,628 Motion passes. Go, Hawks!