[0:06] Good evening. [0:06] Welcome to the City Council meeting for September the 9th, 2026. [0:11] My name is Scott Brennan. I am the mayor of the city of. [0:14] And I will be cheering the meeting of the City Council meeting. [0:18] Participation is meeting [0:21] is both in person and virtual [0:24] for council members participating through virtual attendance. [0:27] Please ensure [0:27] you are attending from a private place free of interruptions or distractions. [0:32] This meeting is being held in person and through the platform. [0:35] Zoom. [0:36] A link for virtual participation [0:38] can be found on the agenda or on the city's web page. [0:42] We will start this meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance [0:45] led by Councilmember Hogan. [0:53] Of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands [0:57] one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [1:10] Madam clerk, will you please call roll? [1:14] Council member. [1:14] Torres. [1:17] Council member. Williams. Present. [1:19] Council member. Tracy. Present. [1:20] Deputy mayor. Sproul. Present. [1:22] Council member. Holland. [1:24] Council member. Hogan. Present. [1:26] Council member. Reid. [1:27] Present. Roll is complete. We have a quorum. [1:30] Thank you. [1:31] Would Council entertain a motion to excuse Council Member Hogan? [1:35] Yeah, I can go now. [1:37] Did council member Holland contact? [1:40] You know [1:44] you guys are on your own. [1:45] Okay. [1:49] Motion. [1:50] Excuse. Council member. [1:52] Motion made by Councilmember Hogan, seconded by Councilmember Tracy. [1:57] All those in favor? [1:58] All those opposed. [2:00] Motion passes. [2:03] Councilors will be recognized with a raise of the hand for motions to move. [2:07] Second, comment and question when speaking through the through the chair. [2:11] When speaking, speak through the chair [2:14] and identify staff by position. [2:17] This portion of the meeting will have no motions made [2:20] by the Council and will serve as an information and discussion meeting. [2:25] Information will be presented to Council and the public to better understand [2:29] not only current events and activities in the cities in the city, but to preview [2:33] future potential agenda bills to be voted on at a later date. [2:38] In a council meeting, [2:41] the council will have discussion following each presentation [2:44] by staff and the opportunity to ask questions of the presenter. [2:47] I will initially call on each council member for questions and subsequent [2:51] questions by raising their hand and waiting for the chair to acknowledge. [2:55] Audience members will not be able to participate [2:58] in this portion of the meeting. Council. [3:01] Council discussions will be followed by action items moving the agenda Bill. [3:15] First on the agenda this evening is [3:18] passage presentation. [3:24] Do we have from Washington here this evening? [3:28] Yes. They are joining us virtually tonight. [3:30] Thank you. [3:32] Yes. Good evening. [3:33] Yes. I'm here to give the presentation. [3:35] Let me see if I can share my screen with you. [3:50] All right. [3:50] Can you all see the. [3:53] Yes. Yes. [3:56] Okay. [3:57] Well, thank you all for letting me again tonight. [3:59] My name is Joey Bernal. [4:01] I'm a project engineer with Washington State Department [4:04] of Transportation, and I'm here tonight to talk about the SR 162 [4:08] auditing vicinity Roundabout and Fish Passage project [4:12] that is located just south east of city limits. [4:18] So in this bundle [4:19] we have a bundle of three separate sites that we're putting together for contract. [4:26] Advertisement. [4:28] The first site is Cod Creek. [4:30] It's a fish bear removal project. [4:33] It's located just north of the Baxter Manufacturing there on SR 162. [4:40] The second site is to the east of that, about a mile. [4:43] It's also on 162. [4:45] It's a creek. [4:46] Remove fish barrier project [4:49] in the third site is that the intersection of Orrville Road [4:53] and SR 162, [4:57] where we got an intersection improvement project. [5:01] So the purpose of these projects, Card and Roush Creek, [5:05] they are the existing culverts or barriers [5:08] of fish passage. [5:11] All of you might be aware that the state [5:13] had a federal injunction in place where we need to replace Fish barriers. [5:19] These two sites are on that injunction list. [5:21] So the state is required to correct these barriers. [5:25] And the site the Orrville Road intersection improvement. [5:29] We're going to put a roundabout there. [5:31] It's a safety animal build improvement project. [5:35] So a couple of reasons why we're bundling these together is all pretty close [5:40] together in about the same timeline for construction. [5:43] So it's easier if we bundle them together to have one contractor to minimize [5:47] construction impacts to the public, minimize the risk to the schedule [5:51] by having one contractor, and we reduce costs for all three sites. [5:59] So I'm going to dig [6:00] into each one of these projects a little bit more detail individually. [6:03] So our car creek there by Burley or Baxter Manufacturing [6:08] existing culvert is only about two foot by three foot. [6:11] It's a pretty small diameter culvert. [6:14] We're going to replace it with a 30ft wide by ten foot tall concrete box culvert. [6:19] That's a pretty big box culvert. [6:22] And the soils out there aren't the best. [6:24] So we're having to do some ground improvements under the structure itself. [6:28] So we're going to make some stone columns that go about down about 20ft [6:32] under the structure. [6:34] So keep that in mind when we talk about in a little bit about the water main [6:39] that goes along SR 162. [6:43] The existing culvert is located [6:46] just to the west side of Baxter Manufacturing. [6:50] We're actually going to shift it 500ft to the east. [6:54] And a few reasons for that. [6:57] The culvert self, the new culvert we need to have about three feet of freeboard [7:02] above the existing water surface elevation to the bottom of the culvert. [7:07] And to do that we need to raise the profile of the highway. [7:10] The highway is going to be raised about five feet. [7:13] If we kept the existing culvert where it is now, [7:17] that highway profile raised would impact [7:19] the intersection of Oroville Road. [7:23] We'd have some complications with all the driveways, impacts [7:26] for manufacturing and the private parcels on the north side. [7:30] So we're shifting that culvert to the east 500ft. [7:34] It gets us away from the intersection. [7:36] It helps us with drainage with the driveways. [7:39] And we avoid two existing culverts under adjacent driveways. [7:47] And during construction when we build this, [7:50] we're going to build a temporary roadway on the north side of the roadway. [7:53] You might hear is called called a shoo fly. [7:57] It's going to be a two lane shoe fly on the north side. [7:59] So two lanes of traffic going through for the most part [8:02] during construction, there will be times when we have [8:06] a single lane closure. [8:09] We'll have fiber butter. [8:10] So there will be impacts of traffic at some points. [8:14] But for the most part we'll have that two lanes to fly when we're installing [8:17] the culvert construction, then start late spring early [8:22] summer next year. [8:25] So any questions on the Card Creek side? [8:32] Okay. [8:32] We'll move on to the street side. [8:35] Like I said, this is about a mile to the east. [8:38] This project will be replacing two existing three foot diameter metal [8:43] culverts. [8:44] The structure here is a little bigger, is 40ft wide by 12ft tall. [8:49] The reason for [8:50] that is since we have two existing culverts, it's a braided stream. [8:55] We're going to try to keep those braids within the new culvert. [8:59] It's just more natural that way for the existing stream [9:02] trying to match what's out there now. [9:05] This site had the same issue that we have our country. [9:07] We need that minimum three foot freeboard from the water surface [9:11] elevation to the bottom of the the lid of the culvert. [9:15] So we're going to raise the profile at this site too. [9:17] We got to raise at about five feet. [9:20] And as a site we had a house directly adjacent to the culvert [9:24] with their driveway. [9:26] And we had troubles tying in their driveway. [9:29] So what we're going to do, [9:30] we're going to shift the entire highway about 12ft to the north. [9:33] That gives us a little bit of room to tie that driveway in. [9:37] Better to that house. [9:40] At this site, [9:41] we're going to have a shoe fly once again, just like Khatri. [9:44] It's only going to be a single, single lane shoe fly, [9:48] since we don't have as much traffic [9:49] as we have with the intersection of Orbital Road. [9:52] So we'll have the single lens to fly on the north side of the road. [9:55] We're going to have a temporary signal system there [9:59] that will give traffic alternating times to go [10:04] this site once again, just like car trade, will start construction [10:07] late spring early summer next year. [10:13] Then the third site [10:14] is the Oval Road roundabout that we're proposing. [10:17] It's going to be a single lane roundabout. [10:19] They'll eliminate that stop condition you have now on Orrville [10:23] Road as the comes up to that T intersection. [10:27] One of the benefits of doing the roundabout [10:30] at the same time as car trade and the same project, [10:33] we're going to widen the shoulders from the roundabout down as card trick. [10:37] So you can have four foot shoulders for that 4 or 500ft. [10:42] So that's a nice improvement during construction of the roundabout. [10:47] Roundabouts have a lot of moving pieces a lot of work. [10:50] We're going to have to have a single lane souffle during for construction. [10:55] So there will be impacts because we'll have a single lane [10:58] open for the duration of construction. [11:01] We couldn't get away from that construction. [11:04] The roundabout is scheduled for spring summer of 2028. [11:09] So a year after that, the two culverts. [11:13] The reason for that is currently needed to get constructed [11:16] first due to some stormwater issues, and we just didn't [11:21] have enough time to construct Car Creek and the roundabout in 2027. [11:25] So the roundabout got bumped into early 2028. [11:31] So for the project schedule, [11:34] we're going out for contractor beds in November. [11:39] We're expecting to open those bids in December and award the project soon after. [11:44] Like I already said, I am Rausch Creek. [11:47] Construction will start in late spring 2027 and extended to the fall, [11:53] and construction of the roundabout will start in spring 2028 [11:57] and extend into the summer. [12:01] So all of you might be worried [12:03] about the impacts to the City of Ordinance infrastructure. [12:07] That's all three sites. [12:10] The city's water main. [12:13] Is adjacent to all three sites within wash shots right away. [12:17] So it's a conflict and it's got to get relocated. [12:23] So we're going to the options were relocate the water [12:25] main prior to wash Dot's project coming through or do it at the same time. [12:31] Sometimes I do want to point out is the city's water [12:34] main is in our right of way by franchise. [12:38] So what that means is there's no property rights [12:41] that the city owns, so any relocation costs are. [12:46] The city has to cover [12:49] the existing water line. [12:51] The concrete main that's undersized and obsolete. [12:55] So this project had the opportunity [12:57] to upgrade about 1900 feet of water main. [13:01] We got 1400 feet at the the roundabout and Car Creek site. [13:07] They'll get upgraded to a 12 inch five. [13:09] And that Rausch Creek got about 500ft. [13:12] Upgraded to an eight inch pipe. [13:16] And the water main replacement will happen [13:18] at the same time as the watchdog project. [13:21] So right now we work with your engineer. [13:24] Consultant paramedics. [13:26] We got all the water main work in our contract. [13:30] It's all in the schedule, the working days. [13:33] So we all go out together. [13:37] So we did [13:38] look at a few different options before we included this work in our project. [13:44] The first [13:45] option was the city could have had a separate project [13:48] and relocated prior to the watchdog project coming through. [13:52] Probably not a really good option, [13:55] but as I mentioned earlier, we had all those ground improvements [13:58] at cartridge where we're going down 20ft under the Culver itself. [14:03] That would require the water main to be bored [14:06] 35ft below a car creek. [14:09] It's pretty difficult [14:12] access for maintenance, and it's got a high cost when we got bored that deep. [14:16] So in the city would have additional cost to. [14:19] If you would have had a separate project, you would have had traffic control, [14:23] you got covered by yourself. [14:25] You got repaving, the highway mobilization and just a boring cost. [14:29] The self is pretty spendy. [14:34] The second option would have been advertise. [14:38] The city could advertise a separate project [14:40] and relocated during the watchdog project. [14:44] That's not really a good option for the city or watchdog, [14:48] because you would have had two different contractors working in a small work zone. [14:53] That's just a recipe [14:56] for conflict between the contractors claims against the city and the state, [15:01] because one contractor might have been the way of the other one. [15:04] So just not a really good option for us. [15:08] The third option is what we went with [15:10] that we worked with your engineering consultant to put together. [15:14] Did we partner together and Wash advertising, [15:18] the joint project to relocate the water main as part of our project? [15:23] This cost savings with that, [15:25] because we share our mobilization, we share on traffic control [15:29] and for the most part washed off when we paying for all the repaving. [15:34] Because as I mentioned, that card and Roush, we get that profile adjustment. [15:38] We're rebuilding hundreds of feet of road. [15:41] The contractor can come in, come in there at the beginning of the project. [15:45] They can install the water main and any pavement that they were going to damage. [15:49] We were going to replace anyways. [15:52] So it's a cost savings for the city. [15:54] It minimizes schedule risk. [15:57] If you have one contractor doing all the work [15:59] and the best part of it for long term maintenance for the city. [16:03] The water mains itself are going on the structure, [16:06] so it's easy for them to access them for any maintenance in the future. [16:11] And it saves cost if you're not boring far down below the stream. [16:18] So we work with the consultant. [16:19] We put together the responsibilities in the construction agreement [16:23] by what it will do and what the city will do, so [16:29] that our contractor will remove, deactivate [16:32] and dispose of all the specialist concrete water main that's out there now. [16:36] Our contractor will install the temporary water service [16:41] throughout construction because we got we got to make sure [16:44] all the adjacent parcels have water service. [16:47] Our contractor will install the new water main service [16:50] line and disinfect, flush and test and new system. [16:54] So it's just a kind of a one stop shop for installing that water main. [17:00] The contractor will do all the as built drawings [17:03] that the city engineering department required, and will minister the contract. [17:08] So we will have the inspectors out there and we will process the [17:12] payments to the contractor. [17:15] So the work performed by the city [17:17] is the city will continue to operate the water system as they do now, [17:22] and the work through us to tell the contractor [17:25] what needs to be done. [17:29] The city will provide [17:30] assistance in just in time training for our inspectors. [17:33] We don't do a lot of water main work, so our inspectors don't. [17:37] Not all the inspectors have a lot of knowledge in it. [17:40] Was that just in time training for inspectors? [17:42] They're going to know what to look for during construction. [17:46] The city engineer is made available [17:49] for any questions or fill changes during construction. [17:52] That was key for us because questions always come up during construction. [17:57] The city will attend any pre-construction or pre-work activity meetings [18:02] related to the water main work, so we'll make sure the city engineer [18:07] is there and any concerns that the city has can get shared [18:11] with washed out, and the contractor and the city will provide [18:15] on site representation for connecting the live system. [18:19] Pressure testing and bacteria testing. [18:26] So the estimated cost [18:28] to all this work in our contract. [18:31] That's what you will see in the construction agreement [18:34] between the city and state is about 1.59 million. [18:39] That estimate includes the water main construction costs [18:43] and includes construction services, engineering charge 20%. [18:48] And the indirect costs are the markups we have to do. [18:53] We have to include when we do work for a local agency [18:58] and during construction, wash shop [19:01] will invoice the city for all the construction costs. [19:05] So we have that reimbursable agreement set up where [19:10] we can get that water main relocated [19:12] and we can just invoice the city. [19:18] Do you have any questions about any of these three sites [19:22] or the water main relocation work? [19:26] Thank you, Mr. [19:27] Brunel. [19:27] First question from Council Member Reid. [19:33] Yeah, the $1.5 million. [19:34] That's the cost to the city. Yes. [19:38] And the other question I have is the completion date [19:43] projected [19:45] for the water line and the roundabout [19:48] and the fish passageways [19:51] complete for Carl Creek and Rausch Creek. [19:54] Completion would be fall of 2027. [19:58] And for the roundabout that would be summer of 2028. [20:05] And back to that first question about the cost. [20:08] The the green between the city and the state is at that 1.59 million. [20:13] I believe the total [20:16] told to the the council is slightly higher than that [20:20] because parametric have some costs included on that. [20:23] That isn't in that agreement. [20:28] Thank you. [20:28] Thank you. Councilmember Tracy. [20:31] Did I understand when those culverts go in. [20:34] They're going to be the the tops are raised up five feet. [20:39] The roadway surface is being raised five feet. Yes. [20:42] At both those locations. Correct. [20:45] And so the roundabout basically is going to be raised at least five feet also. [20:51] We will tie [20:52] back into the existing ground before you get to the hump in the road. [20:57] It'll be kind of a hump in the road. [20:58] Yes, it'll be designed to all design standards [21:02] for vertical profiles. [21:05] Okay. [21:08] Thank you. [21:08] Any further questions from council? [21:14] Deputy mayor? [21:17] I guess more for the city. [21:20] So we're going to be assisting in training. [21:24] Washed out for [21:27] doing inspections. [21:28] Do we currently have that capability? [21:35] We have. [21:37] Do we have staff to be [21:40] inspections that we're going to be training to do? [21:44] Yeah. [21:44] So I thought we had gotten rid of our inspectors. [21:49] Yeah. [21:49] I, I'm not quite sure where where Mr. [21:53] Brunell was coming from on that one that we were looking [21:56] at bringing in an inspector for, for that for our portion of the project. [22:00] But maybe you can review that again, Mr. [22:03] Bruno. [22:04] Yeah, I can do that. [22:05] And I have my design team lead here with me today. [22:07] Braden and I got parametric, and I know they chatted about this quite a bit. [22:12] So if you all can give some a chime in on that issue. [22:18] Yeah, I could jump in [22:21] from parametric working on this project [22:23] with Dot. [22:27] The specific point for the inspector [22:31] responsibility through the city is just to provide in time training. [22:35] So if there's any specifics on testing [22:38] requirements or connections or kind of in the field questions [22:42] that they might have specific water line related. [22:48] Points that they need [22:50] along this whole water line construction, they can ask the city and staff [22:56] that's available as needed. [23:01] Okay. [23:01] Thank you. [23:03] Thank you. [23:05] To add to this, our our operations staff will be heavily involved in it. [23:09] Also, there will be a lot of isolation and restoration and flushing of the system. [23:14] So I think that's what what our parametric engineer is pointing out. [23:19] I have our public works director here this evening. [23:22] If you if you wanted to comment on that at all, [23:25] on your on your role in the project. [23:34] Can you hear me? [23:41] Just like. [23:51] Good evening. [23:51] Thank you. Can you hear me now? [23:54] All right. [23:54] I currently have the contract agreement that was sent over yesterday [23:58] afternoon that he's referencing. [24:00] And there are some things that we want to talk [24:02] about internally to, to figure out some of those finer points. [24:06] But it is in the contract that, as they mentioned, [24:08] they're not really familiar with some water main stuff. [24:11] And I think through JC and my staff, we can coordinate [24:15] exactly what it is they need from us. [24:18] Obviously it's our system, so we want to be operating valves [24:22] and ensuring that our pumps are running and our reservoirs are full, [24:25] and that customers are taken care of to coordinate any, any of those shutdowns. [24:29] I would anticipate. [24:31] And it's not really defined in here. [24:34] This was going to be a further conversation [24:36] as we fine tune this before signing it. [24:38] This isn't signed yet. [24:39] What it is specifically they need and what it is that staff can provide. [24:45] Like like the mayor mentioned, we do have plenty of folks on staff [24:49] that that can assist with things like shut down to the tie ins. [24:53] There is a temporary water main portion of this. [24:56] I think it was it was briefly touched on where when they did. [25:00] I've done a few of these projects myself, and when they dig a hole that deep, it's [25:03] going to be very impressive. [25:04] You guys should swing by there [25:06] when they get going, but we have to take the water main [25:09] and move it completely out of the way on top of the ground temporarily. [25:13] Then as they build the structure, we'll put it, remove that [25:16] and put it back in place for a more permanent location in the future. [25:21] So there will be a couple of swap outs, testing and reporting to the state. [25:27] Obviously for any back to back tees will follow our normal back t sample [25:32] procedures and pressure testing procedures that we have to follow through. [25:37] And the Department of Health. [25:39] So I don't. [25:40] Those are typically things we see well in advance. [25:43] So everyone on our staff as well as parametric and washed out [25:48] contractor will have plenty of of lead time as to when those disconnections, [25:53] reconnection and sampling procedures will need to take place. [25:58] Thank you, [26:00] Councilmember Torres. [26:03] So understand [26:04] this correctly that this is just the 1.5 [26:07] million is just for a temporary water line [26:12] for those for the roundabout over here. [26:16] All to my knowledge, all three locations will require [26:22] at least two for sure will require the water main [26:25] to be essentially teed completely out of the way of this excavation. [26:29] It's going to be quite large. [26:31] And then when they're done and we're healing the road back together. [26:34] They'll disconnect that pipe, which we will. [26:37] We've I've gone through the contract [26:39] and through the plants to make sure that we're paying for the pipe both times. [26:43] So when we the new the old pipe [26:47] that they not old, but the temporary pipe will be returned to the city. [26:51] That it's our anticipation that we can disinfect those sections [26:54] of pipe and wrap the ends of them and keep them at our facility [26:59] for extra pipe, for main breaks and those kinds of things. [27:01] So we'll keep the temporary pipe in-house and then install the permanent pipe to be [27:07] then buried underground and under the roadway to, [27:09] to kind of live in conjunction with the new fish passage. [27:13] So I got it. [27:13] That's what that's what the cost is, is both temporary abandonment as well, [27:18] because you'll be hauling out some of that old AC and disposing of it properly, [27:22] as well as getting a new permanent restrained joint. [27:26] Everything's going to be held [27:27] together real good and ductile iron to replace that AC, which is okay. [27:31] Thank you. [27:34] Thank you. [27:35] Any further questions from council? [27:39] Okay. [27:39] Seeing none. Thank you, Director Davidson. [27:43] Thank you for presenters [27:46] from paramedics in the state. [27:50] Thank you. [27:52] Thank you all. [27:54] Okay. Thank you. [27:55] Okay. [27:55] This evening I have myself on the agenda for item number [27:59] C for our Water resource Recovery Facility update. [28:02] I had an opportunity to talk with each of the council members earlier [28:06] today of some of the. [28:09] Oh. I'm sorry. [28:11] Oh, great. Thank you. [28:12] I guess I'm on their two times. [28:14] Okay. [28:14] I guess I'm on item B also. [28:16] School zone discussion. [28:18] Just an update for council. [28:20] Myself and Mr. [28:23] Wheaton submitted a letter to the state Dot engineer, Andy Larson, [28:29] to review a request to keep the crosswalk at lane in place. [28:35] So that's. That's under review by the state. [28:38] I don't have any updated information on that. [28:41] And as you chief here, there's really not much to talk [28:46] about with extending the school zone this evening. [28:49] What I do want to report is, is that some of the early signage [28:54] that was put up, I think, has been very helpful [28:56] to notify citizens that they're entering into a school zone. [29:00] You may have seen the trailers. [29:01] You come into town [29:03] announcing that a school zone school's back in school [29:06] and it's a pre alert citizens or people passing [29:11] through on the state highway that there's a school that they're entering into. [29:15] So hopefully that will help out [29:18] with the situation some and that. [29:21] Any questions or comments from council. [29:23] Council member Reid. [29:27] Since we're going to leave [29:28] that crosswalk in there and the cameras [29:32] for the school zone, would it be possible [29:35] to raise the school zone in that area to 35 miles an hour, [29:39] so that we're not slowing down to 20 for a small [29:43] section? [29:49] Yep. Yeah. [29:53] I mean, right now we're probably still writing tickets, [29:56] a lot of them for 20 miles an hour, when it could be 35. [30:02] It's my understanding that the school zone speed limit is set by statute. [30:06] That's 20 miles an hour. [30:08] I could be wrong there, though. [30:12] Yeah, right. [30:13] I'm looking. I'm getting to you right now. [30:17] I think I brought that up a little bit earlier today. [30:21] Yeah. [30:22] The letter that was written to maintain the crosswalk in its current location. [30:26] It basically acknowledged [30:29] that there will need to be safety improvements in that area of the highway. [30:33] And it's under review right now. [30:36] So once we get word back, we'll bring it back to you. [30:46] Again, I just I don't think it works very well. [30:48] Going from 55 to 20 back up to 35. [30:52] Back down to 20. [30:55] I mean, we could leave it at 35 until the new school goes in [30:58] all the way up to to the school, and [31:02] we're going to put another crosswalk in it at Whitehawk. [31:07] I, I believe [31:09] that kind of defeats the purpose of of having the school zone be. [31:12] The school zone is intended to be a slower zone to protect, protect the kids. [31:17] I thought I thought the problem was that [31:18] we had people speeding through there at 60 miles an hour, and at 35, [31:24] I don't think it as big an issue, [31:27] but that's just my opinion. [31:32] Okay. [31:33] Thank you. [31:34] Attorney void. Yeah. [31:36] So Council member Reid, if it if it is a designated school zone, [31:42] state statute RCMP 4661 440 does say the maximum speed is 20 miles an hour. [31:49] Okay. [31:55] Yeah. [31:56] That's it. [31:57] The reason I asked, I got a ticket about 20 some years ago, [32:00] 30 some years ago in Algona for doing 15 in front of a [32:06] a play area that had 12ft cyclone fences on it. [32:10] I thought it was 25, [32:13] so I thought probably be different, but that's a state law. [32:18] The judge told me the city can make their zones [32:20] whatever they want, but it's not city at state out there. [32:23] Yeah, well, if it's a state highway, that's when I've been working [32:27] with Chief Cabral on this. [32:28] If it were talking about the main drag coming in, that is a state [32:32] that is a state designated highway. So. [32:39] Thank you. [32:41] Thank you. [32:41] Any other questions from council? [32:46] Okay. [32:47] See you then. We'll move on to item number. [32:48] See the Water Resource Recovery Facility update. [32:52] And the opportunity to speak to each of you today about some [32:56] of the challenges that we've been facing as we enter into the fall. [33:00] Some of them are pretty substantial and may require us to to [33:05] look at extension of our emergency declaration [33:09] to be able to to work forward through some of the some of the issues. [33:12] I have Engineer Hungerford here this evening and our director Davis, [33:17] and to maybe update from their perspective [33:21] the report that we had earlier today. [33:24] Engineer Hungerford. [33:25] I don't know if you want to talk about some of the issues we've discussed, [33:28] have been regarding. [33:33] We have the curtain separation in the lagoon. [33:36] We have a failure in our SBR, one of our SBR basins. [33:40] And if you wanted to talk to some of. [33:45] Oh, okay. [33:46] Okay. Thank you. [33:49] Can you hear me okay. [33:51] I don't know what specifically was shared in the report, but [33:55] specifically some of the recent events that the mayor was just discussing [33:59] are with relationship to the SBR basin. [34:03] So one of the decanters, [34:06] not totally sure what led to the failure, but there's a pipe between [34:12] the floating decanter and the wall, and that pipe became separated. [34:16] It's a PVC section of 16 inch pipe that's flanked on both ends, [34:21] and it looks like the flange on one or both ends failed. [34:24] And so what happened was that that pipe came, [34:28] became disconnected, and was temporarily supporting the decanter. [34:34] And then as these decanters flow, when there was no longer [34:38] water in their allowed it to, as the water level drained out, it fell. [34:43] And that pipe is now physically disconnected [34:45] from the plant engine laying on the bottom of the decanter. So [34:50] essentially what the decanter is, [34:52] is a mechanism that allows [34:55] the clean water to be [34:58] flow over a year [34:59] and out through your discharge, [35:02] through the basin, through your discharge, [35:05] which is disinfected with the UV disinfection system. [35:09] I know a lot of you went on plant [35:10] tours and got opportunity to see the disinfection system in the basement, [35:14] so that's where that clean water goes after you settle the solids decanter out. [35:19] So that whole system is provided [35:23] by was provided by a vendor by the name of aqua Aerobics. [35:28] They're still in business. [35:29] And so the recommendation I have to the city is to get Aqua out here [35:34] to do an assessment of that piece of equipment [35:38] from where it comes out of the wall, all the way through it [35:41] to see, obviously, we need to source a new pipe. [35:45] There's flexible connections where those flanges connect on each end [35:49] to make sure [35:49] that those are ready to be reconnected, or if they recommend replacement. [35:53] And then the condition of the the decanter itself, [35:57] as I think it may have fallen and there may be some structural damage. [36:01] I'd like to get a structural engineer down there as well. [36:04] There's some pipe supports and general supports of the system [36:07] to make sure that they're ready. [36:09] Once you get that decanter repair that they're ready [36:12] to support that structure for. [36:15] Obviously we've got some winter flows coming. [36:17] So time is of the essence here [36:20] with regard to the curtain and the lagoons. [36:23] The city went through the recent lagoon dredging event [36:26] and noticed that the curtain that separates the lagoon. [36:31] So you've got a three cell system. [36:33] Cells one and two are a little bit smaller. [36:35] They're an error rated at flows [36:37] from 1 to 2 and then into three, which is not aerated. [36:41] And it's anaerobic where your solids store. [36:44] And that's where we pull them out. [36:45] During the dredging event, that curtain appears [36:49] to be compromised, where the anchors are at the bottom of the lagoon. [36:52] And it's kind of free floating in there right now. [36:55] So what? [36:57] There's physical anchor points as well as weights as you can imagine. [37:02] A, you know, imagine a fabric [37:05] curtain in a pool has to have weights in it. [37:08] I believe that those anchor points and those weights have been disconnected [37:12] and are put in a tremendous amount of strain on that top wire [37:17] that holds it in place. [37:18] So I believe there's also a bit of solids bulking up against it, [37:23] laying against it. [37:24] So it's not something that you could [37:26] go move with a backhoe or something like that. [37:29] As you imagine all of that water pressure and solid sitting against it. [37:33] So need to understand what is failed there, do an assessment, [37:38] and the only way you're really going to get to [37:39] that is literally to get to the bottom of the lagoon [37:42] and see those anchor points and see what the condition of the points are, [37:46] the connection points and the cables to and from, [37:48] as well as those ballast weights that hold it down. [37:52] So I think it's an opportunity as well. [37:54] Well, based on three offline to take a look at everything else in there. [37:59] High weather flows. You're going to need those three basins. [38:01] So you've got diffusers aeration system things like that. [38:06] While people are in there, take a comprehensive [38:08] look at the condition of the basin to make sure it's ready to go. [38:14] Great. [38:14] I think Engineer Hungerford, Director Davison, [38:17] did you have any comments this evening? [38:32] Yeah, I would just echo a lot of [38:34] of what Jake was talking about in regards to the lagoon and the curtain. [38:38] It would also be important [38:41] once we get to the levels that we can do anything with that curtain. [38:45] It's important to note that while our team was trying to dislodge, a portion of it [38:49] had gotten stuck in some of the mechanisms in basin one, it had actually frayed [38:54] and gotten in there that as they were trying to tighten or pull, [38:57] it was actually coming apart as they were maneuvering it. [39:02] So it's really not anything you can look at and, [39:06] you know, boat out there and take care of as you go. [39:08] It just kind of deteriorates over time. [39:10] And that's what it's done. [39:12] Time is is not been real favorable to that stuff out there. [39:16] So the other thing to think about is if we do get the opportunity to get [39:20] that lagoon down, where we can assess that infrastructure underneath, [39:24] it also has some tea, some tea framing in there. [39:27] Aside from the anchors that are also drilled into the bottom, [39:30] there'd be an awesome opportunity to take a look at the lining itself. [39:34] I know that we've had some discussions with the Department of Ecology [39:37] about the need to beef that up and make sure [39:40] it's robust, and two layers now is what's required. [39:43] So that would be an additional opportunity. [39:46] We also have have been working through, and I think we had Glenn here [39:51] talking about the importance of of controls and the system [39:55] and those things, being able to talk to themselves. [39:57] And it's really been a challenge for for staff and for parametric, for that matter, [40:03] to come out and troubleshoot things when perhaps it doesn't tell the story. [40:07] Like we would like it to a lot. [40:09] If you can kind of liken it to it's telling you [40:11] something's wrong or something's not operating or it's coming on properly, [40:14] but you can't dive into the actual [40:17] analytics of what's going on without posting somebody up there [40:20] and watching the process either fail or succeed without people being. [40:24] And we've had some challenges with that as well. [40:29] The SBR mixer one was was pulled. [40:32] I don't know if [40:33] I got a little bit more of an update and we've sent that out for for repairs. [40:37] We have we had a ground faulting issue in in SBR one, the mixer one, [40:41] the blower one is out of service currently and we're procuring a spare. [40:47] Looking to a neighboring municipality of City of Yelm has been real nice. [40:51] It's kind of was a sister plant to what we had. [40:53] They've since changed and upgraded their plant, [40:56] so they did save a bunch of stuff for us that that were able to kind of [40:59] look through, and a lot of [41:00] it was actually refurbished fairly soon before they decommissioned their plant. [41:04] So it's not all real bad and kind of helps us [41:07] without having to go to the eBay process that you guys were talking [41:10] talked about before, just to kind of touch on the aqua aerobics. [41:15] We did approve them to come out. [41:18] We've signed that document. We're just waiting for scheduling. [41:21] I have yet to hear from them, but but our team is ready to go. [41:24] We're we're currently in the process of getting down into that third [41:26] basin and pressure wash it out and really get it clean so that we can [41:31] out of the suggestions and working with the mayor to really go through there [41:35] while that basin is empty, which we don't want it to be empty. [41:39] But while it is, let's really look at all the components [41:42] inside there and so we don't get caught. [41:45] Maybe missing something if it needs to be replaced. [41:48] I think it's it's prudent to just [41:50] get in there and replace that stuff now instead of guesswork later. [41:54] The solids are starting [41:57] to show some liquid a little bit, which is good. [42:00] Obviously nothing near what we need, but it is [42:06] starting to get a little [42:07] bit of liquid on top of it. [42:11] We are working with the Department of Ecology on the mitigation [42:14] around the edge of the legume. That is done. [42:17] We're waiting on the sampling [42:18] analysis plan, working with parametric to submit the Doe for approval, [42:21] and then comply with the last step, which would be the actual [42:25] sampling itself. [42:29] Yeah, we've worked on the PMS on the blowers as well. [42:32] So our staff is is grinding through it and doing what we can to be proactive [42:36] and try to really it's [42:40] it's in need of some repairs and hopefully, you know, [42:43] we wet weathers come in and fingers crossed with the last thing we want to do [42:47] is have some other thing go on, go wrong in there. [42:50] That then kind of negates all the successes we had with [42:54] what Fire Mountain did for us. [42:55] So there's still a need to get rid of solids, and still a need [42:59] to kind of keep our momentum on this thing and hopefully get it, [43:03] get it back to where we can just have a couple guys maintaining it. [43:06] Great, great. [43:08] Thank you, Mr. Davidson. [43:09] Councilmember Perez yeah. [43:12] So the flange fell off down to the bottom of the lagoon, is that correct? [43:16] I don't know that we've determined that fully. [43:19] I can layman's terms. [43:21] When I arrived there the the flange if you can envision where this [43:26] the large 18 inch I believe 16, 16 or 18 inch pipe bolts [43:30] together with a flange real close to the, to the wall, the concrete wall, [43:35] it was loose and kind of wedged underneath it. [43:37] So the whole thing was teetering [43:40] with all the weight being this way on the bottom of it. [43:42] And then when it fell, it kind of broke. [43:44] But we have not been able to really determine, [43:47] I'm sure Jake has, because that's the smart people are. [43:50] But there was a flex fitting in there with [43:54] almost like [43:55] two little hinges that fit on both sides of it to kind of firm up [43:59] that flex connection as that as it floats within the levels in there. [44:04] I don't know if we've determined a cause other than just age and where, [44:08] but yes, it broke free from the wall sunk underneath. [44:12] It was kind of floating free in there. [44:14] Did it affect the flow? [44:16] Did it affect the flow? [44:17] It essentially took itself offline. [44:20] I mean, it it doesn't operate at that point. [44:22] It drained. [44:23] We had to drain it, decant it, then it fell off some of the standards [44:26] that mayor was talking about. [44:27] They sit up on big supports and the whole unit fell to the floor, [44:32] which is typically I think that's roughly about 30ft deep. [44:35] JC oh, wow. [44:37] So so did I understand that that's something [44:41] you guys can fix yourselves then. [44:43] Is that something you can do? [44:45] No, no, I mean, I don't want to say no. [44:48] Of course, we probably could figure out a quick fix for just about anything. [44:52] I think with a with a failure to that degree [44:56] especially, you know, this is this type of, of repair. [45:00] We we rely real heavily with our, our engineering partners here. [45:04] And the determination is to get the best bang for our buck would be to get [45:09] with aqua aerobics the actual design of and let's, let's fix it correctly. [45:15] So we'll have to build a new system. [45:17] It's going to essentially be the same but more robust. [45:19] Instead of PVC. [45:20] We're talking about some other pipe materials that may help last, perhaps [45:26] fortifying those connections if we can, so that those [45:30] hold a little better and then [45:31] go through the rest of the components that are currently offline. [45:34] Thank you. [45:36] Thank you. [45:36] Yeah, I think the key to it is, is to find the root [45:39] cause of the failure of what caused it and then correct it. [45:42] Right. [45:42] We're even looking at the process with the aeration. [45:45] With the move, the air moving through the tank [45:48] itself is creating a lot of movement on that decanter. [45:51] Maybe that could be a contributing factor. [45:53] So I think some of that root cause work is happening right now. [45:57] Engineer Hungerford I've got a photo up there. [46:00] Better to explain with a photo if you can see it. [46:05] But essentially, [46:06] like Director Davison was explaining, is out of the wall here. [46:11] So this is in the concrete basin. [46:12] It's not in the lagoon itself, [46:14] but out of the wall here is that flexible connection. [46:18] And then you can see the pipe in the bottom here. [46:20] This elbow is not associated with the system. [46:23] So it goes from this flexible connection here. [46:26] There's the pipe at the bottom of the basin that sits [46:30] on this pipe support that was damaged to this large round piece of equipment here. [46:36] That's the floating decanter okay. [46:38] The top of that opens to allow liquid to flow into it. [46:41] It goes down through an elbow into this pipe [46:45] and then out through [46:49] the wall there [46:50] you can see on the sides there there's two [46:52] shackles that essentially act as a hinge, that allow it to move [46:56] vertically up and down, but prevent horizontal movement. [46:59] So it only flexes in an up [47:01] and down position so you don't get your decanter off tilt. [47:05] But that's that's the after drainage post photo [47:10] there of the basin itself. [47:17] Councilmember Reed, [47:18] is this the first time in this system that this has happened? [47:21] Yeah. [47:22] So is there a way we can, [47:26] once this is upgraded to get the other two cells checked out? [47:32] I mean, they're probably going to fail soon too, I would guess. [47:36] Yeah. [47:37] So part of the process [47:38] with aqua aerobics coming out is having them make recommendations. [47:42] Your existing pipe is PVC. [47:44] They have since upgraded to a stainless steel option of that exact pipe. [47:50] With the plan on each end. [47:51] I think stainless steel is extremely expensive, but from a life [47:55] cycles perspective, how long does the city intend to keep this process operating? [48:01] PVC is going to last a long time, so if you're going to be replacing this [48:05] in the next 10 to 15 years, PVC is probably a good option to consider [48:10] depending on price. [48:11] But like you said, what's the condition of the other two in the other basin? [48:15] Should we plan maintenance to take those offline and replace the pipes as well? [48:20] Can we Corey. [48:22] Or you, can we get down far enough to look at the other ones without [48:29] during the whole system, down [48:30] as far as we're doing with this one, since it's not broken, [48:35] I don't know the specifics [48:36] of the dynamics of each individual chamber. [48:39] All three are are identical. Correct? [48:42] I don't know if they're sized exactly the same. [48:45] Are all three the one I think is [48:49] okay. [48:50] I think what the hope is, Councilmember Reed, is, is that [48:54] we can [48:57] get a handle on the system, on the whole [49:02] infrastructure that's there, so that we can [49:06] operate at a level that will allow us to do that kind of thing. [49:09] Right now, when we lose an entire basin [49:12] or we have such lagoon issues, and [49:16] it doesn't give us the luxury of any redundancy, if that makes sense. [49:20] So I think [49:23] absolutely it is in my [49:25] I don't know how far out this is as quick as we can get, [49:28] but yes, this would be under normal operating procedures. [49:32] All things being equal, we would schedule these kinds of things [49:36] while the other two basins are running great. [49:38] And like the mayor mentioned, we're aerating properly. [49:42] It's just we've kind of been under the gun [49:45] as we go to to stay above water, so to speak. [49:49] And I don't think right now we would we would want to do that. [49:52] But in the future, absolutely. [49:53] We want to take advantage of our ability to schedule higher [49:57] level maintenance, as opposed to just fixing things as they go. [50:01] Yes. Right. [50:03] You have any questions? [50:05] Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Deputy Mayor. [50:09] So how many [50:10] basins do we have operating right now? Two. [50:14] Two. Sold. [50:16] When I went there, one was being cleaned out. [50:19] Is that one now up and running? [50:22] Yeah. [50:23] So okay so we're running on two and we've got one down. Yes. [50:27] But as I mentioned in the list I have there are various components. [50:32] Blower one is on the Fritz but it's still able to work. [50:35] But basin three is completely offline. [50:38] So it's it's mix and match. [50:40] But for all intents and purposes we are processing wastewater [50:44] into two basins right now as best we can. [50:48] Okay. Thank you, [50:51] thank you. [50:52] Okay, great. [50:54] Thank you, Mr. Davidson. [50:56] Seeing other questions. [51:00] Okay. [51:01] Looks like we have roundtable discussion. [51:03] Any items that council would like to bring up to discuss before a meeting? [51:07] Or would you have is your desire to take a five minute break and return at 6 p.m. [51:11] for the business meeting? [51:16] Okay. [51:17] Well, we'll we'll recess until 6 p.m. [51:21] and start the business meeting at the time. [51:36] Meeting of September 9th. [51:37] Back into [51:39] this portion of the meeting. [51:42] Excuse me. Here. [51:43] This portion of the meeting will allow council to make motions on agenda items. [51:47] Council discussion may follow. [51:49] Once a motion is entertained, audience members will have the opportunity [51:52] to make comments on items that are not on the agenda, or may request [51:57] to provide comment on an agenda item prior to the vote of a motion [52:02] Council. [52:02] Do we have any requests for additions or modifications to the agenda [52:05] is prepared? [52:10] Seeing none, [52:11] we'll move on to this portion of the the meeting for public comments. [52:15] This is an opportunity for the public to make comments to the Council [52:18] about any matter or city business that is not on the agenda. [52:29] Madam [52:29] clerk, do we have anyone who would wish to speak this evening? [52:32] We did have one person sign up. [52:36] Okay. [52:37] First on our list this evening is Mr. [52:39] Mason G. [52:40] Hooper. [52:44] Okay, I'll read in the public comment rules for you. [52:47] Prior to your start, please begin by providing us with your name [52:51] and general location of residents inside or outside the city of. [52:56] If you ask a question of a council, [52:59] the council's rules do not allow for back and forth dialog. [53:04] If action is requested, the chair will refer the matter [53:07] to the appropriate administrative staff member or to committee. [53:11] If you'd like to be contacted, please check. [53:14] Yes, and I see you. [53:16] You've checked that already, sir. [53:19] For on the information contact sign up sheet. [53:23] You'll have three minutes to speak. [53:26] At the end of your time, you'll hear an alarm. [53:28] Please use that alarm [53:29] as a notification to finish your thoughts and a sentence or two at most. [53:33] The chair will stop if the comment extends beyond this time. [53:37] Mr. Hooper, you're good to go. Thank you. [53:40] My name is Mason G. Hooper. [53:42] I live in Village Green within city limits, [53:45] right back, sort of near where the drainage basin is. [53:48] I wanted to actually start with something I didn't include on the form, [53:52] and thank the mayor for requesting an extension of, [53:55] or the permanency of the crosswalk at the school zone. [53:58] I also wanted to ask that the council consider adding additional signage [54:03] within Village Green, as it can be very unclear where [54:07] in that sort of turnoff the school zone begins. [54:10] Is it within Village Green right there where the students still go, [54:13] or is it specifically once you're on the road? [54:16] Outside of that, I've been seeing a lot of and I'm sure I've spoken [54:19] with some of the people here online discourse regarding the flock cameras. [54:24] And I wanted to say that irrespective of the legality of these cameras, [54:28] irrespective of how they're used, I fear that the growing prevalence [54:33] of these types of mass surveillance [54:35] technologies will have a chilling effect on First Amendment protected activities. [54:39] And I don't just mean free speech, but other aspects [54:42] of the First Amendment, like free association or free travel. [54:46] The idea that just because I can see you from the public street, that the Founding [54:51] Fathers contemplated mass surveillance, as we have it now, over all streets. [54:56] I don't really think that that tracks, and I think that people [54:59] will exercise their rights less often because of that. [55:03] I know that it's worth sacrificing some of our rights [55:06] and freedoms in order to have protections. [55:08] But I have to question, is this sacrifice worth it? [55:12] Is the continual degradation of our Fourth Amendment [55:17] privacy really adequate? [55:21] Thank you. [55:21] I yield my time. [55:24] Sorry. It's the first time I've done this. [55:25] Thank you, I appreciate it. [55:28] The flock the flock issues will be on the next meeting of the Committee of Whole. [55:32] Just for your information. Thank you. [55:38] Madam clerk, do we [55:39] have anyone online who would wish to comment this evening? [55:42] No, ma'am. Okay, great. [55:44] See you then. [55:45] We'll move on to the next item of our agenda. [55:47] The consent agenda item. [55:50] A claims voucher list dated list dated September 9th, 2026. [55:57] Council in the in the amount of 1.1 million [56:01] $126,973.33, which includes voucher number 59. [56:08] Zero. [56:08] 46 through 59 zero 96 or excuse me? 98. [56:14] The electronic fund transfers in the amount of $10,768.11 [56:20] for grand total of $1,137,741.44. [56:27] Payroll. Voucher. [56:29] Payroll. Electronic deposit. [56:30] Transmissions in the amount of $288,967.13, for the ground total [56:37] of $288,967.13 [56:42] for the period covering August 16th through 31st, 2026. [56:47] Meeting minutes. [56:48] Special Meeting August 25th, 2026 and Council Meeting [56:54] August 26th, 2026. [56:58] Council. [56:59] Are there any items that we'd like [57:00] you would like to have pulled from the consent agenda this evening? [57:08] Nope. [57:09] Moved to approve the agenda is prepared. [57:12] Second motion made by Council member [57:15] Tracy, seconded by Deputy Mayor Sprawl. [57:18] Move. [57:19] The motion was to move as prepared. [57:23] All those in favor? Aye. [57:25] All those opposed? [57:27] Motion passes. [57:32] Next I'm going to honor. [57:33] Item of business is new business AB 2699 Hazard Mitigation Plan, [57:39] which is to discussion of the state approved [57:43] FEMA approved hazard mitigation plan is prepared this evening. [57:47] I have police chief for to answer any of your questions this evening. [57:53] Council. [57:53] Do we have any questions for this agenda, [57:56] Bill? [58:00] Okay. [58:00] Seeing none, I will entertain a motion to begin a discussion. [58:06] Move to adopt resolution [58:08] number 26 2020 2625. [58:13] Adopting the region five All Hazard Mitigation [58:17] Plan, 2025 Dash [58:20] 2030 additions and the city of 14 [58:24] Annex to Region five Hazard Mitigation Plan. [58:29] Second [58:31] motion made by Council [58:32] Member Williams, seconded by Councilmember Tracy. [58:35] Motion to adapt resolution 20 2625 [58:41] comments from Council. [58:47] Councilmember Williams can speak in favor of the motion. [58:49] And then Councilor Tracy, [58:52] thank you. Great. [58:53] Thank you, Councilmember Williams. [58:55] Any comments? [58:57] Just we've went over this, [59:00] you know, with quite a bit of scrutiny. And [59:05] chief has done a great job in presenting it. [59:08] I think it's just time to pass it. [59:11] Thank you Councilmember Tracy. Any comments? [59:14] I agree 100% would have been done a lot sooner if Pierce County [59:18] would have got their act together and got it taken care of there. [59:21] So we've been trying to get it through for quite a while, [59:24] so I'm just glad we're planning on getting there. [59:27] Good job. [59:30] Thank you. [59:31] Any comments from questions from citizens? [59:34] Okay. [59:35] Councilmember Hogan, I just want to thank Chief [59:39] and staff for the hard work on this process. [59:42] It's taken a long time, so thank you. [59:45] I totally support it. Great. [59:47] Thank you. [59:48] Any other comments from Council? [59:51] Any comments from the audience [59:55] seeing none. [59:56] All those in favor? [59:57] I all those opposed. [59:59] Motion passes as prepared. [1:00:03] Okay. [1:00:05] I have the next item on this executive session. [1:00:09] Any items for executive session this evening? None. We do not. [1:00:11] Mayor. Great. [1:00:12] Thank you. [1:00:15] At this time that a motion for adjournment. [1:00:17] Move to adjourn. [1:00:19] Second motion made by Councilmember Williams, seconded by [1:00:22] Deputy Mayor Sproul. [1:00:25] All those in favor? [1:00:26] I was opposed. [1:00:29] Motion passes. Go, Hawks!