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He's in Florida.
>> Yeah. [laughter] He

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» just had to sit outside, too.
>> Yeah. He just had to sit outside and

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enjoy the weather, too. Rude.

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» Just chose to move it to the agenda.
>> All right. It's uh six o'clock. We'll

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call the meeting to order with the
pledge of allegiance.

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Hey, the clerk is currently not in the
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» She was making a comment, right?
>> Yeah. It's in a couple sheets.

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» I think everyone is
>> pages two and four messing up the uh

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» Yeah.
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» Let me know when you're ready.
Okay. Uh clerk will take the role.

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[laughter]
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I did see him.
Dan, if you're here, can you can you

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speak?

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Probably.
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» Yes.
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» Here.

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» Yeah. Van is present in the
recorded meeting that we have. So, cook

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note that we have five and a half. I
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Ben, can you hear us? I think I'm back.
It looks like he's lighting up like he's

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speaking.
>> I saw that. I heard something.

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» Okay. Hopefully we can
hopefully we can figure out how to hear

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him. If not, then we won't. So, I think
we'll just at this point note that we

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have a five
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[clears throat] forum with two with two
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Bang. Can you speak again?
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» I can barely hear him. Is there a mic
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» Yeah, I have it. Sound should be out on
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» Don't see what my picks are either.
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on the cross should go all the way to
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No, not not not that. Is he coming
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» No.
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Volume up.
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» Try it again. Van,

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» I see other people.
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nay, right?
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» Yeah. Teacher
>> six. Yep.

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[clears throat] Uh before we get to the
approval of the agenda, um I was

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communicated to by uh Trustee Klene that
uh there was uh an expressed interest in

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potentially removing
item 7A from the agenda. Um if there's

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any interest in doing that, the motion
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agenda because then we would then have a
motion to approve the amended agenda.

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So, I will leave that to the the board
at large if anybody wishes to make a

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motion regarding that. Otherwise, we'll
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agenda as presented.

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» I'll second.
>> We have a motion and a second to approve

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the agenda as presented. All those in
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» I. Post say no.
>> Motion carries. All right. So the

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consent agenda includes our regular
meeting from January as well as licenses

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and permits for lucky seven tippy canoes
the mill and then board committee

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meeting and agency reports as listed
vouchers payable and there is no budget

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summary included in the consent agenda
this time. Does anyone have any

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questions on the consent? If
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been swamped with um finishing up year
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time to get to that this month. Anybody
else have anything that they wanted to

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cover or discuss from the consent before
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[clears throat]
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consent agenda.
>> Thanks, Nicole. Thank you, Mike. We have

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a motion and a second to approve consent
agenda. All those in favor say I.

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» I. Oppos say no. Motion carries. Item
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ideas. Limit five minutes per speaker.
Anybody who wishes to address the board,

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now is the time to come up. Please make
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on and that you state your name and your
address and then you'll have five

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minutes to address the board.

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» No.
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» Thank you.
>> There. Okay. Cheryl Beardsley. My

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address is 1850 60th Avenue, Oyola,
Wisconsin. Um, I'm a member of the

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heritage committee and we just wanted to
inform you of some of the things we've

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been up to. Um,
I think you probably all already know

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that we did a tableabling at the Ocul
and interviewed whoever wanted to talk

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about what their family history was like
in the in the area and how they'd like

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the town to be represented.
and those have been um transcribed and

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yeah included in our thinking. We're
compiling a bibliography of resources um

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that includes the Ocola village
chronicle, the history of Ojiway people.

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Um we've interviewed Ojiway
[clears throat] historian Jason

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Schneider
Slender, sorry.

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And um we've drafted some signed content
which we can pass out to you tonight.

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It's just a draft. It's as you probably
know this is a complicated story and so

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we've sort of taken a stab at it with
what we currently know. We want to get

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more input putut from the tri tribe
about some of the language but that's um

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so that's in the works and we plan to
meet with people in the OE historical

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society and interview um former I think
she's the former historian for a the St.

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Croy band Wanda McFagen
and we'll host listening sessions and

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get feedback on what we've got once
we've got more and we we're going to

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collaborate with Diane Wilson on the
Dakota part of the history. She's a

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author from the other side of the river
and has Dakota history. She's actually

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the author for the Valley Reads book
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and I've been attending the um,

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senior cent's
gathering. So, that's a group of seniors

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that just meet and talk and I plan to go
to the potluck just because there'll be

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more people and probably different
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so we just wanted to let you know that
we're working. We've got words and

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you'll get the words.
So, thank you. That's it.

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» You want me to turn this off? No,
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» Hello.
>> Hey, Eric.

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» Eric Rens, 403A 8th Avenue, also the
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Wisconsin.
AIO Wisconsin. All right.

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So, first off, I just want to thank
everybody that took my phone calls

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today. I really appreciate you guys
hearing me out. Um, I feel like my

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points were made. Um, I guess to start
with, I just say that I'm semi-

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disappointed and feel a little bit
betrayed by the board here. Um, when we

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went through this in June, all everybody
talked and I can read some direct

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quotes. Um, I won't say who said it, but
I agree. I just don't think we have

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enough information to make a decision.
And I know I'm not willing to vote for

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something over the objections of
downtown businesses. I think that they

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form the heart of the community and
bring people here. and we need to take

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the time to truly engage with them in
this because this is a monumental change

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that we're talking about. I don't think
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conversations to talk about the
permutations of this. That was one

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member, another board member. I think at
the very least we should probably just

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wait till the ribbon gets cut on the
bridge. This conversation can continue

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can continue when that stress has been
removed. There's a lot of time between

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now and then that we can gather a lot of
data and make lot decisions, but we

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should wait to the bridge to open then
continue the conversation. Now, I know

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many will say that there's no different
or there's a difference between what was

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presented then and what's being
presented now. But the main issue is

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still that we're trying to tell people
we don't want them in this town longer

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than 2 hours. And after talking with the
business community, this is a very major

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concern to all of us. Um when we get
people in this town, we want to keep

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them here. If people come to go to see
the falls, we don't want them leaving

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town to go eat. If you go to the falls,
you hike up to the bluff to see the

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view. It's beautiful. You come down, you
go eat at the waterhed. You walk down,

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you get ice cream at the antique store.
And then you might go have a drink on

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the patio. And you do that on a Saturday
afternoon. You come at 11:00 and you

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leave at 1:30. You think you had a great
day. All of a sudden, you leave town. 3

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weeks later, all of a sudden, you get a
bail in the mail for $30. Do you know

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what you're going to remember about
Oyola? You're not going to remember the

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waterfall. You're not going to remember
the beautiful view. You're going to

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remember that $30 ticket cuz that
frustrates you. Um, I'm sure a lot of

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know that I presented this to my people
on Facebook. I'll just read a couple

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that when I was sitting down here came
across. As an out oftowner who frequents

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a yellow for their shops, restaurants,
and bowling, I can tell you that this is

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100% bad idea. If I get a parking ticket
because I happen to be shopping for only

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2 minutes over 2 hours, that will be the
only thing I remember and it'll be my

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last visit to Oyola.
Um, this is a very hot button issue. Um,

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and like I said, I don't think there's
any difference between meter parking and

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enforcing the two hours. Of course,
meter parking is more inconvenient to

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people, but still the message of the
story is we don't want you here longer

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than two hours. And I don't know why we
are telling visitors to our town that.

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Um, another issue that I just brought up
is people, how are they going to know

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that it's all of a sudden being
enforced? So, all of a sudden they've

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been coming here for years and years and
years and then they get a ticket 3

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months later saying, "Hey, you get fined
$30." They're not going to want to come

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back to this town. Um, I know the main
thing that they're going to talk about

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is safety sticks. Um, when I looked at
the agenda, it looked like there was 29

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pages on just the camera enforcement and
not that much on safety sticks. So, I

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feel like the proposal is more on the
cameras downtown and making sure people

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leave this town within 2 hours or get
fined than the safety sticks. Um, the

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safety sticks, I think they call them
safety sticks because that sounds good.

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They want to get their foot in the door
with municipalities with a safety stick

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cuz everybody wants safety, right? Um,
so the safety sticks monitor the

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crosswalks or the fire hydrants. I go
downtown every day. I've never seen

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somebody parked in front of the
crosswalks. I noticed in the letters

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that it's only downtown. Why are the
safety sticks only downtown and not out

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by the schools or down 35 here? It seems
like they're just trying to get their

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foot in the door so that 3 months from
now they can ping Devon with another

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email. Hey, how are the safety sticks
going? Do you think we could, you know,

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propose this to the board again about,
you know, monitoring the two-hour lots

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and putting the cameras up or what about
readers? And never mind say, I know I

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don't think they're appetite for it
right now. 6 months later, they're going

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to ping them again. Hey, what do you
think about this? And it's just going to

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happen. And us business, us in the
business community are going to have to

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keep fighting this over and over again.
I think safety sticks solve a problem

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that doesn't exist besides for that
company because they get their foot in

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the door. Um, I acknowledge that parking
is a problem during the day downtown,

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but I think that's mostly an employee
parking issue. Um, the problem is this

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doesn't solve that problem. Employees
downtown still need a place to park. If

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we want to come up with a solution for
that, we have to give them an option of

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somewhere to park. One of the options is
behind the old Dairy Queen, Busy Bean. I

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think that's a great opportunity because
a lot of the congestion downtown is down

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by the bowling alley, Hogi Dental, and
everywhere else. So if we had a

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opportunity to turn that into parking
>> 15 seconds. Okay. Well, I want to move

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ahead. So business impact is going to
kill my business. My senior leagues, my

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bowling tournaments, all go over two
hours. It's going to be devastating.

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During this 6 hours that I have known
about this, I've heard from Studio A,

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Dicks, Hockey, Deno, Pys, Jackpot,
Staple, Looking Glass, Ocio Cleaners,

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Valley Spirits, Valley Studs, Ace Hard,
myself, Watershed, and the Mill and 1500

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people have signed the petition,
including 300 in the last six hours. I

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implore you to listen to their voices on
this issue. And it's frustrating that

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our business voices feel like we're not
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» Thanks, Eric.

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Anybody else wish to address the board?

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Nobody else, we will move on from item
four to item five on the agenda, which

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is staff reports. So, we're going to
start with uh 5A1 police.

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» You get 10 or [clears throat]

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AJ's at a conference in Wisconsin this
week.

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» Uh good evening everyone. As Deon
mentioned, Chief Bach is at the annual

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chief's conference. My name is Tanner
Revan. If anyone hasn't met me, I've

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been employed with the village since
fall of 2019 as a police officer. I'm

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the most senior guy right after Chief
Box. So, in January of 2026, OciOla PD

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officers completed 70 incident reports
and five traffic crash reports. Our

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officers made nine arrests, including
five felony arrests. Our officers

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initiated 233 traffic stops and issued
115 citations. Our police administrative

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assistant processed 10 requests for
records and/or background pet background

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checks. School resource officer Trembley
responded to nine school related

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incidents in the month of January.
Some of the notable incidents which our

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officers responded to in January
included a burglary attempt where a

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suspect attempt to enter an occupied
residence. This incident is currently

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under investigation. Our department took
a report of sexual assault that occurred

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within the village. Following further
investigation, our officers executed a

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search warrant at a residence to collect
evidence and arrested the suspect who

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was subsequently charged with two counts
of secondderee sexual assault.

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Our officers have been diligent on
traffic enforcement and drug

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interdiction. In January alone, our
officers had three OWI related arrests,

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including a felony OWI4th offense and
seven marijuana related stops with over

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46 physical grams of THC positive
material, as well as as seven THC vape

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devices or pens have been collected.
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the equivalent of over 40 grams of
marijuana. And we have noted that these

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devices have been more popular
alternatives used by the younger

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demographic.
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weather shoot at the Ocula Ryman Gun
Club. I'll personally note it was

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negative 25 degrees at that time. So
inclement weather is correct. During

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this training, we also qualified our new
officers with our department long guns.

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Officer Reban, myself, and Chief B
completed their instructor development

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curriculum required for reapplying for
certification as an instructor.

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myself, Officer Miller, Trembley, and
Chief Bach

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reertified as basic and toxic meter
operators. Officers Dodge and Valene

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will be attending the operator
certification course later this year. I

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have been working hard processing
evidence scheduled to be purged from our

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inventory. We are also establishing a
department seizure program which would

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allow the Ocola Police Department to
recoup some costs associated with

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investigations by seizing assets such as
currency or vehicles that were used in

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the commission of various felony level
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» How much cash have you found so far?
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was approximately we had four over
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And going through the process, we were
able to recoup 2,000 of that for

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department costs. And the other 2,000
was sent to the state school fund per

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statute.
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» I think it's somewhere else, but I'm
going to ask it here. Is there a isn't

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there a new truck on order going to be
ordered or something?

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» Uh, it's on the CIP for order. So once
the CIP gets approved and all that, then

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we can go forward with it.
>> And then the the new uh the radios have

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been implemented.
>> The radios have arrived. Yes.

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» I don't know. Are they working good?
>> Um, a few have them already. So, yes,

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they required new mounts. One of our
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to use it. Second officer was able to
get his hard mount, so he is using it.

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And our third officer is just waiting
for the last one to show up. But all

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indicators are that they work great in
the village. So,

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» thanks.
>> You can fill in anytime. [laughter]

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» All right. All right, next up, public
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Hey, good evening everyone.

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January was a little crazy
weatherwise, but um

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we welcome the cold spell. uh gives us
time to focus on things like I mentioned

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in the report and inventorying and
getting our our shop back into a

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workable space. Generally, it's kind of
crazy um to do some things during the

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transition of seasons, but these really
cold periods allow us to focus on

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equipment and
getting our stuff back in order, getting

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ready for a new year and a new season.
But multiple snow events in January uh

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and continued maintenance weekly
removing snow and ice. A lot of

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freezing, thawing ice like that. So
these little dustings and this freezing

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and thawing is sometimes more of a
nuisance than just getting like a foot

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of snow.
uh secure [clears throat] an additional

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salt for 2026 here thinking we're going
to get through the rest of the season

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given the current um uh weather we're
having but a seage across the Midwest

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forced us to kind of emergency
um purchase the salt that was necessary.

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The county and state unfortunately cut
everyone off. So we were thankful with

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our local community to get our salt in a
timely manner.

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uh continue clean and dancing storm
sewer openings. Uh that's been non-stop.

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You'll see us out there opening catch
basins constantly and utilizing some

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salt in some areas or even sometimes
steaming or jetting things to get them

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open.
Uh street lights have been repaired

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downtown. Everything's been functioning
well at this point. Um we know we have

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uh new light post, short one that came
in on uh Second Avenue, the parking lot

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there. It's only been hit about five
times now. Um, so we look forward to

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having that replaced.
As I mentioned last month, uh, we were

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just waiting one more acceptance for our
city application has been approved.

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We're approaching 20 years, a 50-year
program. So, it's pretty neat to be a

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pro part of that whole process. Um, ice
skating rink is open along with our

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warming shack. We can see it's been
utilized. Uh we've been keeping up on

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it, but even today we'll see a little
colder weather overnight. Um have fresh

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fresh to skate on tomorrow.
Uh restroom floors. Some of our

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restrooms are seeing overhaul, including
in our shop. But uh we did was we sanded

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them down and uh applied a uh
an epox epoxy paint. One of those things

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that again we're just getting ready for
thousands of visitors to no pond

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restrooms and stuff like that. um for
the year tree pruning

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very high along with dealing with our
emerald bore trees, public trees. Um I

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think we're going to we're set for
taking about six more down this week.

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We're going to concentrate on Third
Avenue. So you'll see us out and about a

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lot of trees going to be coming down
with this better weather. uh tree

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pruning in parks and was the time to
just go ahead and just really start uh

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letting them up appropriately, getting
them trimmed up, getting ready for the

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budding season, and then planning over
second for Grismo and Gateway Metal

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Parks. It's a brief update. Uh a lot of
the uh the stairway has arrived, bulk

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parts are being uh behind the old DQ
site on village property at this time.

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Made several mentions. we have
appropriate space, other spaces

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available for them seem to work for them
logistically to have it there and

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looking forward to start putting stuff
together soon. Uh, as they stated in the

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last meeting we had last week.
Yeah. Any questions?

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AJ learned that not always is the state
contract the most economical place. So,

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I see you're shopping or buying a truck.
>> Correct. you know, shopping and seeking.

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Yes.
>> Yeah. It

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I've done state contract stuff for what
I do, too. Yep.

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» You put a number out that you know you
can sell it for. It doesn't always mean

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that just like AJ found that you can get
a better deal. Sometimes if there's

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rebates and somebody gets more
aggressive. So,

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» you're absolutely correct. I look
forward to presenting um that here

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shortly and the steps that they took in
looking after regional, state, and just

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dealer incentives and getting the best
deal. Awesome.

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The um I know we were conversing. I
struggle with I've mentioned this before

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the meeting. I struggle with the email
system here in the in the um the Apple

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format. I'd much rather do a PC type
outlook. Did we have a meeting this week

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for public works?
>> We don't. Okay.

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» Um I think I got everyone's feedback
recommendations in the past.

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» Yeah,
>> I received all three emails. I know I do

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apologize as we did have some snow and
some other things going on. It missed

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yours as I mentioned. It's fine. So I do
intend on fulling fully sticking to the

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calendar, the yearly calendar. And
>> we missed the December one and that was

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where the conversation kind of started.
>> June, our last one was in June, correct?

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» Yeah, our last June. So we missed two, I
think.

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» Oh, okay. I know we missed December
because I remember asking about it.

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» Sure.
>> Um and that's one where it's like I I

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would love to see us book them out for
the year. So I can plan because it it

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isn't just even us sitting here in
meetings. It's the public too.

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» No, absolutely. I look forward to that
for benefit. And by all means, if

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something happens and it snows, change
it. I mean, we all get it. Um just the

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further we can plan in advance, the
better.

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» That sounds good.
>> Don't have a meeting this week.

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» We will not be having that meeting
tomorrow. I hope that I clarified in the

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last email that I look forward to the
>> You did. I just couldn't figure out

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which one came when.
>> Yeah.

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» So, the chicken and egg thing.
[laughter] got a little confusing. You

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apologize, but we look forward to a
March 25th meeting.

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» It's outlook.
>> Okay. Or not outlook, but whatever.

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» Yeah, it was supposed to be a special
meeting due to some some circumstances,

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but it's all in the board packet tonight
and that's why the meeting was canceled.

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» That's fine.
>> Just

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user.
>> I 100% agree. It's the user. 100% agree.

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[laughter] Just fine.
>> I've just never been. It's never cleaned

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up.
>> Set up Outlook soon. I don't know.

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I
>> usually can follow them if it's not a

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bunch of people.
>> Yeah, I'm in it at work all day. Like

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I'm constantly checking. So yeah, I can
show you how if you want.

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» Any [clears throat] other questions?
>> What um as long as you're up here? The

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lighting over at Shelberg.
>> Yes.

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» What's the equipment there you use to
run it? Is it just a basic time clock?

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» Yeah. And we've actually gone to even
more simplified uh manual timers.

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» Okay.
>> Yeah. Um, unfortunately, yeah, we've

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we've tried some of the higherend stuff
that has failed or has been very

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technical and very twitchy.
>> Yeah, your basic time clock somebody

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puts on their pool. It's nice and easy.
>> That's what we have.

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» Those cells suck.
>> Yeah, we we'll talk about that in that

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shelber discussion.

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» Thank you.
>> Thanks.

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» Thank you.
>> Right. Next up, utilities.

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» [cough and clears throat]
>> Hey, good evening everybody.

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So, uh, recent updates to our billing
system. Uh, monthly bills are issued,

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uh, successfully. Uh, significant
efforts on our utilities clerk made that

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process really smooth. There's a lot of
technical, uh, uh, detail that goes into

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that on the back end of our billing
system and she did wonderful with it.

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Um, we have a couple meters that we need
to follow up and it seems like the

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signals aren't getting out. Maybe like a
a tin roof situation that uh, might have

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to move some stuff around. So, we're
still following up with a couple meters

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on our list. Uh cold weather. This this
was really I don't know. This month was

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just something because uh we had uh
several light failures in homes. A lot

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of call outs to shut water off, water
running on basement or you know, burst

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pipes and things like that. Um more so
than usual, but uh you know, all went

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really well. We were able to respond
within minutes and get that water shut

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off uh for the customers. um working
with the treasur to get the annual

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report, the PSC annual report done and
the audit requests in on a timely

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fashion
and uh we assisted just this isn't a

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report but I thought about it when we're
talking about River Street. We assisted

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with uh the surveying over there opening
the uh the manholes and things of course

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we we chose like the coldest week of the
year to do that and uh we had snow and

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so we were busting through ice you know
yay big with SDS's and things and um

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went well but we we we were kind of
laughing. Of course, this wasn't in the

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week after when it was supposed to be 30
something degrees. Just seems to be how

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it goes. Um, Excel Energy blasted us out
of bed at 4:00 in the morning, deciding

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to load shed. So, I got the cops speed.
It was 28 below when we were here. U

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[laughter]
program the generator, make sure it's

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going to run. We are on a load shed
program. So, uh, we need a reduced

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utility rate if we are able to, uh,
remove the entire plant's load to, uh,

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our generator power upon request. Um
that is the first time we've been called

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overnight. Uh I woke up going who who
from a 1-800 number calls at 4:00 in the

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morning. So found out it was Excel. Uh
that went well. Whole process went well.

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Um they called again. We had several
several times we had to load shed. So

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the grid must have been really taxed on
those days where it was so cold out. Any

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questions on the report?
>> They actually make you answer the phone

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overnight for that. Like it's in a
contract somewhere.

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» It's in a contract somewhere.
I've never

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» penalties if you don't.
>> Huge penalties if you don't. Right.

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» That's right. So, you save you save
money on your rate, but the penalty if

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[clears throat] you miss it is is pretty
hefty hefty.

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» Well, thank you for answering the phone.
>> No problem.

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» Take that number.
>> Yes, we do. We do have it [laughter]

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text too. And so I got the text
afterwards and I'm like,

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» you know, whenever you get, you know, a
phone call in the middle of that, you're

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going to be disoriented, you know. And
so I was just looking at it. I figured

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it was a lawn dialer from work.
>> That's when it gets cold. and uh getting

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called in for you know a water [snorts]
system problem or a sewer system problem

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or something and uh it was kind of
comical when I saw the 1800 I was like

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who would that be you know and then yeah
it's two you know one one made two and

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it was it was accelerating took care of
it so

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» I was [laughter]
>> that's kind of what I was thinking I was

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just like what
>> so

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» I got two things for you
>> sure

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» thanks for stopping down and talking
Mitch

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» oh Yeah. Yeah.
>> Um and the schedule values looks good.

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» Yeah.
>> The billing.

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» Okay.
>> That [clears throat] actually there's

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three things. Um
>> the third one, the I happen to be just

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looking at another SCADA system to bid.
>> Sure.

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» The it's a couple hundred thousand.
>> Yeah.

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» And I know you were talking before like
you thought we could get by with doing

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some band-aids and stuff or where are
you at with that?

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» Actually, you'll see it at a committee
level is um last time we went to

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committee we talked about splitting it
out and you know is okay to split this

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00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:33,039
out. We explored that, you know,
basically do what you got to do, Rick.

413
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:37,039
Um, we wanted to explore for
functionality. You know, what we what we

414
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:41,600
lose in our SCADA system as it is is we
don't have no visibility into it. And so

415
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,559
we uh after having radio issues over
December over Christmas break and we had

416
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,919
to actually send somebody, somebody has
to physically be here to do all of these

417
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:52,000
things versus just checking it on like
an iPad or an iPhone computer at home or

418
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,519
something like that. We said, gosh, we
really need some visibility. It's 2026,

419
00:31:54,159 --> 00:32:00,640
you know, we need some visibility into
this. So, uh, the original quote, I

420
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:05,519
believe, was 230,000,
but 60,000 of thatish was radios. And

421
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,559
so, we were we were pretty on the mark
with that. Um, with the radios

422
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:13,760
themselves, then we split that that
section out and we actually I contacted

423
00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:16,240
to uh um like we had talked about a
committee to go through that quote with

424
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,480
us, make sure we're moving in the right
direction, the pricing's good,

425
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,399
everything's looking good. So, you'll
actually see that committee um if we if

426
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:26,000
we get uh the time to get that all
together by committee. So, so that's

427
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:29,519
what that's where that sits.
>> Just was more I was more than talked

428
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,159
about initially and where you're hoping
to get by and it's

429
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,720
» I think it's important,
>> right?

430
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,760
» Thank you for that. So, we we'll get by.
Uh the the plan right now is to get by

431
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,679
with the radios. The radios are are the
the major issue. Whereas, if we have a

432
00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:45,039
radio failure, we have to replace all
the PLC's or we have to replace all the

433
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,600
radios at the same time. Sorry. We have
to replace all the radios at the same

434
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,720
time. If we have a radio failure, we
have a PLC failure, you have to replace

435
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,679
the PLC and all the radios at the same
time. So we're buying a little bit of

436
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,279
time to explore what do we do with this
SCADA system? What kind of visibility we

437
00:32:55,679 --> 00:33:01,120
need to into it? Do we want to add any
functionality? Do we want pressure

438
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:04,000
sensors here? Do we want you know and
part of that is going to be going to

439
00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:08,480
other communities and you know that sign
that did significant rec and look at

440
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:13,039
what they have and see how that applies
to us you know within within reason.

441
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,279
I still have a lot of security and
things in mind. So there's nothing I'm a

442
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,200
big fan of a physical stop. Nothing
really replaces a physical stop on site

443
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:25,519
where you can hear and smell in the
wastewater taste, you know. Uh,

444
00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:28,320
» no.
>> I'm still dumbfounded about some of the

445
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:31,120
manual things you guys do down there.
What things that

446
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,240
» it is an age?
>> Please tell me you do not taste the

447
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,760
water. [laughter]
>> Thank you.

448
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:41,519
» But I will say I will say all of our
operators and myself included, we will

449
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:45,919
walk into the plant and go, "What's
wrong?" We can you can smell it. You can

450
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,240
hear it. You get something there's
something going on because you get used

451
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:53,360
to it.
>> Sometime that gets a little unhealthy

452
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:57,783
then you know I don't tasting it.
>> Look like who?

453
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:57,783
» Oh yes. [laughter]

454
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:04,480
» You got the tasting joke right away.
[laughter]

455
00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:07,519
» So yeah that's where that sits. We're
looking at doing the radios to get us

456
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,919
out of the immediate jam that we're in.
And [clears throat] then okay, how do we

457
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:13,280
get some visibility into this? How are
we bringing the system into the 21st

458
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:17,200
century? The other side of that would
then be to how do we get more visibility

459
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:22,720
into the storage system and things. So
that's that's where that sits.

460
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:27,280
» Yeah, see committee. Thank you guys.
>> Um I've heard a lot of good things about

461
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:33,919
the monthly billing already. So
>> as we have too um it was the monthly

462
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:38,399
billing was a a customercentric
focused initiative. I mean we looked at

463
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:39,760
the system and said we have to
>> my check.

464
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,919
» What's that?
>> You want my check? But I think Jen's

465
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:48,079
still here actually. [laughter]
She is inundated with work right now

466
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:51,760
with court and everything too. Um, it
was we we looked at we have to we have

467
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:55,440
to do these meters. They're regulated.
There's something we have to do. What is

468
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,400
the value ad for the customer and what
we do? And that's what we always look at

469
00:34:56,879 --> 00:35:00,720
that how are we adding value to the
process to the customer and the end

470
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:04,320
user.
>> We've already found some leaks from the

471
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:07,359
system. So it's been
>> just monthly billing. I mean people have

472
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:11,040
caught leaks way faster. We would have
been two months three months throughout.

473
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,040
That's a big bonus for sure.
>> We uh one of the pipes that I talked

474
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:19,280
about previously was a broken pipe in
somebody's basement um between two walls

475
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,560
where they did they didn't even notice.
I mean they were going through hundreds

476
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,000
of cubic feet. Hundreds of cubic feet
>> but took down the milk house. Yep.

477
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:30,960
» That's awesome.
>> Yeah. Catching it fast. Yeah. It's it

478
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,119
was really a customer centered push on
that one.

479
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,560
» A long process. It's good that you
probably got it.

480
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:38,880
» Yes.
>> Yeah. Yeah. We Yep. We've been planning

481
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:42,000
on that for for a long time. um over 10
years actually. So

482
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:44,160
» definitely a congratulations on that
because that's

483
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,079
» yeah hopefully things smooth out after
we get into AC and

484
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,839
» yeah AC has taken off. We have you know
well over 100 I just followed up with

485
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:54,960
her on that. Well over 100 people I
haven't yet please

486
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:59,839
» which is which is 10% overall. I mean
that that saves postage that's immediate

487
00:35:57,359 --> 00:36:04,079
uh all that that's that's an easy
process. So, um, I've also heard that

488
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:10,400
the monthly billing is is a much more
palatable bill with the average

489
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:13,119
residential is is, uh, well under $100 a
month.

490
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,280
» Definitely easy for budgeting and and
making sure that

491
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,440
» Thank you for the feedback on that. I'm
going to relay that to to Jen.

492
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,920
» Yeah,
>> it's been uh it's been a lot of work.

493
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:26,880
This was this this was a heavy heavy
lift. Um and it will be it will continue

494
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:30,640
to be for the next foreseeable future
until you know things smooth out,

495
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:34,800
processes get, you know, built up and we
get into a rhythmic. Um we're still

496
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,480
getting a lot of uh customer questions
that need to be answered. Obviously that

497
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,520
is sensitive and takes a lot of um staff
time to do uh to make sure that we're

498
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:47,440
getting people accurate information
timely. Um but all normal things all

499
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:53,119
normal things. So thank you all.
>> Thank you. Anyone else?

500
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,839
» Thanks.
All right, next up, library.

501
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:06,000
» Good evening, everyone.
>> Uh, so during January, I attended the

502
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:11,200
two-day Wild Wisconsin winter web
conference via Zoom. And, um, through

503
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,800
that, I was able to attend a variety of
presentations ranging from community

504
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:18,640
support to library collections to
programming. And then the last week of

505
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,480
the month, I spent u most of my time
working on the library's annual report,

506
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:27,040
which needs to be submitted to the
department of um public instruction

507
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:33,359
before the end of February. In January,
we circulated 3,432

508
00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:40,000
items. We had 124 computer uses,
1584 ebook checkouts, and we had 20 new

509
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:44,000
patrons. We added 227 new items to our
shelves for circulation. And most of

510
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:48,880
these were actually books that were
ordered in December, but because um

511
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:53,119
Ingram has so many people that they're
trying to get on board, um they were

512
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:57,839
backlogged and things got backorded. So
we finally got those in January. And I

513
00:37:55,839 --> 00:38:02,800
continue to work with if list to set up
EDI, which is our electronic data

514
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:07,839
interchange ordering with Ingram. And
then once that's fully set up, book

515
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:13,040
orders will come directly into our ILS
Sierra, which is if LAS's integrated

516
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:18,079
library system. Um, and it will save a
lot of time for me um saving receiving

517
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:22,480
the books as they come into the library.
Uh, we had many of our regular programs

518
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:26,240
that occurred in January, including tech
help, lunch with the librarian, fiber

519
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:30,800
friends, storytime, Lego, and chess
clubs, and the WNPL book discussion. and

520
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:35,040
I delivered library materials to the
patrons at Evergreen and Millside

521
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:39,520
Apartments and Christian Community Home.
And then we held our first ever craft

522
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:43,599
supply swap where community members
brought their unwanted but usable craft

523
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:48,240
supplies to the library during a
collection period. And then during the

524
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:54,560
swap, those that donated were able to
come that first hour of the swap and um

525
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:58,960
get new supplies and take home. Most of
them said they um had to make promises

526
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:03,440
that they wouldn't bring back home
things that they had originally donated.

527
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:07,200
Um but we had over a hundred people
attend and so this was something that

528
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:09,760
was very popular and thank you Nicole
for coming and helping us set up for

529
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,880
that. That was awesome.
>> You going to do that again?

530
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:16,240
» Yes. So we're definitely going to do it
again. Um I think a lot of people think

531
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,079
we should do it twice a year. I think
it's probably going to be a once a year

532
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:26,400
endeavor for us. [laughter]
Trying to store um all of the supplies

533
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:29,520
in the library was a little tricky. Um
and then the leftover things were

534
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:35,119
donated to the Halberg Center for the
Arts in Wyoming, Minnesota for their

535
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:38,960
craft supply drive. And I am very happy
to say that the phone drama is finally

536
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,440
over. Um
>> Bright Speed finally let go of their

537
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:47,119
number. Huh.
>> Um easy it. [laughter]

538
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:51,119
» Yeah. So, um, Friday our number was
ported over to Evergreen TEL and

539
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:55,599
everything seems to be working well. And
so now it's just a matter of staff

540
00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:57,839
learning how to transfer calls and all
of that kind of stuff.

541
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,560
» Keep Mike's number handy. He'll answer
calls all the time. He will train you.

542
00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:05,359
He's great.
>> He has been awesome through this whole

543
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:13,119
process. And then I just wanted to um
briefly touch on so last month the

544
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:18,480
library board um approved the 2026 2031
um strategic plan. So this is something

545
00:40:15,359 --> 00:40:24,160
that we had worked on for um probably
about nine months. Uh we had a um

546
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:28,400
strategic plan committee that worked on
it. So that was made up of myself, Deb

547
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:32,560
Rose, library board member, Michelle
Jacobs, a staff member, Barb Wetzel from

548
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:38,400
the Friends of the Library, and then
Melanie Bazil who is a library patron

549
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:42,320
and community member. Um, so we put a
lot of thought and effort into this. We

550
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:48,720
had a lot of help from the list library
system and Caitlyn from there came um

551
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:53,839
and helped us with that. So if you have
any questions about it, please feel free

552
00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:57,440
to come and um visit me at the library.
Um, I don't want to take up a lot of

553
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:01,680
your time here during the meeting
talking about it, but I'm more than

554
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:08,760
happy to discuss what our goals and
activities are over the next five years.

555
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,760
So, any questions?

556
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:16,680
» All right. Well, thank you.
>> Thanks, Ann.

557
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,680
» All right. Next up, fire.

558
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:26,240
» Hey, everybody. Uh, last month we had 11
runs total. Uh, seven are in the village

559
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:30,880
of Oyola,
two [clears throat] in the town of

560
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:38,480
Farmington, uh, one structure fire, uh,
mutual land with Allied Garfield, and

561
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:46,400
one rescue ice rescue uh, with, uh,
Balden. Um, Brun is, one structure fire,

562
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:55,200
seven medical lift assists,
one ice water rescue, and two alarms.

563
00:41:50,880 --> 00:42:00,469
The training for January was we uh
stuffed envelopes and sent out for the

564
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:06,000
fireman's pump and we also did
[clears throat] chimney chimney fire

565
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:11,440
response and training uh upcoming
trainings. Uh we did HIPPA last night

566
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:17,280
and bloodborne pathogens. At the end of
the month we have official elections.

567
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:22,319
And then uh last but not least is
fireman's ball is Saturday night. So,

568
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:26,880
you're all invited. Everybody's invited.
Hopefully, they'll be seeing you there.

569
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:30,079
Any questions?
>> Was the uh was that mutual aid? Was that

570
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,119
W?
>> Yes.

571
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,520
» Yeah.
>> So, where are the next adjacent fire

572
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:42,119
halls? Dresser
>> dresser and then Garfield was just a

573
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:42,119
block down.

574
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:50,640
» Was that one right in Woo?
>> Yes.

575
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:50,640
» And where's the next one from there?

576
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:54,720
Street
>> and Amry. Yeah.

577
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:59,240
» What's our next one? Like to the south
Somerset.

578
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,240
» Yep.

579
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:04,960
» We have any beach laid with those guys
if something happened that direction.

580
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:08,079
» We do.
So

581
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:13,640
» I didn't realize there was one right in
wanderings. I was trying to think about

582
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,640
who would get there faster. control

583
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:23,599
is only 10,000 gallons of water stock in
the ground. So they don't have much

584
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:26,599
water take water from
rest.

585
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:35,599
» You got the ball.
>> All right.

586
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:39,599
» Thanks, Paul.
>> Okay. Next up, building inspection and

587
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:43,040
administration. Building inspection is
pretty boring. You got one sprinkler

588
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:48,640
system out in the industrial park for
$80,000 value. Um, usually January is a

589
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:56,400
slow month. Uh, we should be seeing the
building permit for the gun apartment

590
00:43:51,599 --> 00:44:00,640
complex shortly. And then um
um some other various ones here and

591
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,880
there too. So there's some growth
happening this year which we're excited

592
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:11,040
about. And then I'll dive right into
admin. Uh Eric and I did um a River and

593
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:15,119
Third Street um informational meeting
for the public last week. We had about

594
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:18,640
did you say about 15 people there um
kind of tell them the process that we're

595
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:24,800
going through. Uh the house going to
switch to a oneway from River to third.

596
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:28,160
Um making sure that they're aware that
uh there will be heavy equipment on

597
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:30,800
site. uh we asked to make sure uh if
they're worried about their basement

598
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:34,160
that you know we can go in and take
pictures ahead of time making sure

599
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:38,079
everything is when they're done the
exact same way as when it started so

600
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:42,240
there's no impact there and just kind of
give them the timeline of potential

601
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:46,240
dates. We won't have a secured timeline
until we have a contractor selected

602
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:51,680
after this bid process happens uh which
we should be starting tonight. Um but

603
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:58,319
overall good feedback. They appreciated
the the meeting to be to be listened to

604
00:44:53,839 --> 00:45:03,200
and for us to present. Uh Todd and I and
Eric attended the Verizon tower

605
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:07,440
pre-construction meeting over in Noki
Park. Um they should be he said March

606
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,520
1st they should be starting on that
police started pouring footings. So

607
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:16,160
sometime in March we can expect that. Um
the buildout of the tower itself is only

608
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:20,240
30 days, but after that Verizon takes
their time to get or Dolan in this case

609
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:24,079
takes their time to get the the antenna
stuff up. So we're still looking a few

610
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,200
months out from the overall full install
of that tower.

611
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,920
» Any intrusion with regard to the Braves
practice schedule

612
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:32,880
» shouldn't be on that. No, they should be
done by the time the construction of the

613
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,680
tower should be done by the time
>> but the installation of the radio. So

614
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,160
there's a ladder truck there, I'm
assuming.

615
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:42,079
» Uh it should happen during the daytime,
your normal work hours. So should have

616
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,440
no impact on the Braves. They're aware
of that it being an existing ball field.

617
00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:49,599
So we can always put conditions on that
too. But I don't foresee any any lapse

618
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,440
or
>> lap of of services there.

619
00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:57,680
» They're local contact with Verizon that
you can maybe forward to the board in

620
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:01,359
case we get customer Dolan realy because
they're they're the lees actually Dolan

621
00:45:59,359 --> 00:46:04,960
owns it and they lease it out to Verizon
and Dolan's based out of Missouri. Uh

622
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,560
their contractor was building it though
is local. I was thinking more so if

623
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:12,640
community residents come to us and say,
"How do we get in touch with Verizon

624
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,359
about getting started with them now that
there's a tower in town?" Like that's

625
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:19,200
what I wanted to know.
>> Your local Verizon shop, whatever that

626
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,560
would be, I'm guessing. But um when it
goes live, I'll let you know. But right

627
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:28,079
now, it's kind of at the mercy of Dolan
and their contractor.

628
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:30,319
» And the timeline with uh storm siren
folks that

629
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,119
» Well, that's the next thing. We just met
with them last week. So, we'll get that

630
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,839
lined up to making sure that when the
tower is up, then we can get it

631
00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:37,280
installed. Great to have a siren in
place for storm season.

632
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,280
» Yeah.
>> Yep.

633
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,680
» We'll get that lined up so we can
install it on on the site.

634
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:48,800
» Um
start start of the new year. I've been

635
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:52,800
reached out to by two Minnesota
businesses looking to come across the

636
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:57,760
border. Uh some of the political
landscape over there has opened up their

637
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:02,000
eyes and potentially coming to Wisconsin
for a relocation. I am currently in

638
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:06,880
communication with them looking for
sites. Um the good news is the village

639
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:11,200
does own a few parts of land that we can
help uh get these uh businesses

640
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:15,760
hopefully over into Oyola which would be
a big boost for for us and for our

641
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:20,079
population at hand and potentially
creating lots of jobs. One of them is a

642
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:24,640
250 person employer. So there are some
hefty hefty employment numbers from some

643
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:31,119
of these these companies looking to move
over. Uh these should be these will be

644
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:35,760
active um recruitment. So a lot of other
business or cities, Hudson, St. Croy

645
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:40,000
Falls, they're looking at they want to
dip their toe in Wisconsin, not go all

646
00:47:37,359 --> 00:47:43,040
the way in. So here we're good good
situated for that as we're close to a

647
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:49,119
lot of the population bases that they
want to be close to.

648
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:53,520
Uh planning commission is undertaking uh
chapter 219 revisions, which is our

649
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:59,040
zoning, which involves commercial,
industrial, and residential. Uh we've

650
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:03,359
been getting input into that uh of what
we'd like to see changed. As we change

651
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:06,240
it, uh we'll be running through some of
the ordinances and bring them to the

652
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:11,920
board probably towards the end of the
year. It's a very um labor intensive

653
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:17,040
process for me. Uh and then and getting
their feedback and trying to wrap that

654
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:20,960
into a coherent ordinance is a is a very
big undertaking. And a lot of this is

655
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:24,079
being driven from our comprehensive
plan. Uh that's generally the process

656
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:28,240
that you do is you approve the
comprehensive plan and then you try to

657
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:31,200
implement the comprehensive plan into
your zoning and that's one of those

658
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,680
things we're looking at doing making
sure that uh are the items in the

659
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,200
comprehensive plan something we want to
enforce or just have it as guidelines.

660
00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:42,800
So that that's kind of what we're going
through right now as planning commission

661
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:47,440
level and as we get further along the
board will be involved in the approval

662
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:52,079
process once the ordinances go further.
Uh prep preparations are well underway

663
00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:55,520
for the elections. Carrie's been running
her new Badger books, making sure

664
00:48:53,440 --> 00:49:01,040
they're updated uh for the election
coming up. Is it April 4th? 7th. April

665
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:04,880
7th is the election date. So, there will
be a new um system for checking in when

666
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:08,160
you vote this year. Uh it should go a
lot smoother and faster for for

667
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:12,400
check-ins and we're excited about that.
And you guys have some trains coming up

668
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:17,280
too, right?
Uh the ice rink is open as we mentioned.

669
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:20,800
Um we finally got that open. The weather
allowed it. So, thank you Todd for

670
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:24,559
getting that going. Uh the Whispering
Acres PUD, which is south of the

671
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:30,480
airport, is under contract by a new
developer, so we might be seeing some um

672
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:36,400
headway with that very soon. The PUD was
approved. Um so they still have to

673
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:40,720
operate within the PUB guidelines. Um so
we might see a development or at least a

674
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:44,319
plat coming forward in the next coming
months for that uh with

675
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,680
» that would go to plan first, right?
>> Yep. With a new with a new developer. So

676
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,680
that's [clears throat] that's exciting
to have. Um

677
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:55,200
this month we're having a stakeholder
meeting for Shelberg Park about how we

678
00:49:53,520 --> 00:50:01,200
want to improve that park and make it
into um a more accessible

679
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:06,319
um installation whether it be for
walking, running, biking. Uh we invited

680
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:10,000
some of the local biking groups, trail
running groups, the school, the boy

681
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:14,079
scouts. So we should have a pretty good
idea of what we want to do with that

682
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:18,160
park. Um the OciOla Trails and Parks
Committee is looking for a project uh

683
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:21,599
and spend some of the resources on. So,
this is really what led this is they

684
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,720
want to know what they can provide their
money for to help projects and this is

685
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:28,800
kind of going to be the steering for
that of what projects we'd like to see

686
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:33,359
in Schillberg Park. U making sure it's
going to be a wellused park. We saw how

687
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,480
important is to design something for
people that are going to use it that

688
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:41,200
they design it. Uh the skate park is a
prime example of that. I saw kids uh

689
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:45,119
skateboarding there on Monday, just
yesterday. I think it was warm out and

690
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:48,800
they're already using the skate park. So
if you build it for people that are

691
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,440
going to use it, it will be used. So
it's important that we listen to the

692
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:56,480
stakeholders when we design Schillberg
Park. Uh they're also working on the

693
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:01,680
Ocio trails and committee is also
working on Austria Creek Trail. Uh it's

694
00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:05,440
currently DNR own land. I should be
getting a resolution from the DNR

695
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:10,240
shortly allowing the village to have an
easement on their property uh to allow

696
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:15,280
the Ocio Trails and Parks Group to
conduct bog bridges along along the

697
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:19,359
creek. Uh part of that project too is
Cedar Ben is interested in potentially

698
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:23,760
building a pedestrian bridge across
OciOla Creek 2, which would then allow

699
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:29,520
us greater access to the parking lot
behind the busy bean. Uh so it kind of

700
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:33,680
brings in Eric's nice comment of making
that lot more available to people. Um

701
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:37,280
that we're working together trying to
find many people to allow us to do these

702
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:42,960
type of projects. As we all know, funds
are always tight for these for um

703
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:46,960
unbudgeted items. So, we're grateful for
all the support that these groups are

704
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:53,839
willing to provide to make our parks
much more um vibrant.

705
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,440
And then I want to thanks admin for
taking all the tax collection for the

706
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:00,800
month. They do a great job. And uh we
should be settling up with the county

707
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,079
either this week or next week, the rest
of the taxing jurisdiction. So, we'll be

708
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:08,000
writing some big checks the next few
weeks to the county, the school

709
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:11,520
district, and the tech school. Any
questions on the admin report?

710
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:15,880
» I got a couple. I was holding them until
the end. Sorry. So, I'm going to go

711
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:25,520
» I ask I'll ask a quick question before.
>> Thank you for doing that. Um with the

712
00:52:22,319 --> 00:52:29,440
parking utilization behind um busy bean
if that comes to fruition. Um can we

713
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:34,640
make sure that we're talking to the bid
about that as well for um see if they

714
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:38,400
want to have any action into that
>> uh to to pave it and make it flatter?

715
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,839
Yeah, that's the biggest problem we have
right now is and I know they have some

716
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:46,000
money that they're willing to do. Um
once they have a new hopefully new

717
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:50,000
director in place shortly, uh we can get
that conversation rolling again.

718
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,079
» That's got like 30 grand or something,
right?

719
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:55,280
» Uh more than that.
>> Okay. It was a big number.

720
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,359
» Yeah, it's it's far more than that. Um
>> I'm going off of memory.

721
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:59,839
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Because Wyatt and I were in

722
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:05,119
conversation already about what what to
do with that parking space.

723
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:09,680
» Um back to River Street. I remember Eric
you talked about doing some surveys or

724
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:13,520
having a contingency for surveying money
along there. What was it? Do you

725
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:15,440
remember why we have a concern about
where

726
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:18,960
» Yeah, there was
>> things were

727
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:24,079
» it came up at one of the early meetings
that the the property lines were

728
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:29,920
incorrect at one of the parsons
>> for an outfall.

729
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:34,960
» Yeah. And that's what what it was too.
And uh you know, we've now we're looking

730
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:39,680
at multiple outfalls. We're actually
looking at eliminating two of them um

731
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:44,880
with this project, creating a new one,
and hopefully eliminating a third one

732
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:49,520
future, all on private property right
now. So, it clicked in my head because

733
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:55,280
you talked about doing project
documentation and taking photos. Um, I

734
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:59,760
think that I'm going to guess there's
going to be some pretty deep excavation

735
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:02,800
out along River Street and having
impacting people and I'm sure we're

736
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:07,599
going to get JNS is going to get poked
at or we'll get drugged into claims that

737
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:09,839
old basement are jiggling around and
rocks are falling out.

738
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:13,040
» That's exactly what I want with the
documentation.

739
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:18,480
» Yeah, you said it loosely. I'd highly
highly highly say we go into any

740
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:23,359
basement.
Great idea. you know. So, I brought that

741
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:27,680
up at the public involvement meeting and
uh I

742
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:32,319
basically requested that we be able to
do it. They were willing to let us in

743
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:35,599
and and document it before work is done
just so you can be sure

744
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,240
» and it's for their own good. So,
>> yeah.

745
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:42,240
» The church was
>> open to it. They wanted to do it.

746
00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:47,839
» Where did we leave off with the sidewalk
on gone side? Who owns that? Who's going

747
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:51,520
to own the any is there street lighting
going in there? So, there's street

748
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,599
lighting that's going in. Um,
>> is this on the agenda? Is this on the

749
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,720
agenda later?
>> Yeah, we can wait.

750
00:54:54,319 --> 00:55:00,480
» We can wait. Perfect. That's fine. Um,
Verizon tower. Did you ever meet with

751
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:03,599
that homeowner and talk about the all
the vegetation that's got to come down?

752
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:07,119
» We we did mention that the trees are
going to have to come in. So, we will

753
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:12,000
have to talk to him about um cuz it will
force if the trees got to come down, it

754
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:14,240
will be on the the developers or the the
builder's cost to to build take those

755
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:17,200
trees down
>> as long as the whole

756
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:20,160
» cuz right now uh we don't have to cut it
down to the property line, but the tree

757
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,280
is dead anyways.
>> There's a lot there.

758
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:26,240
» So, um I'm going to talk to the property
owner and just make sure that we can

759
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,640
just remove them on on the cost of
Dolan. Uh and then and then the property

760
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:33,280
owner doesn't have to worry about taking
down his own trees. I don't want us

761
00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:36,960
getting stuck with a half a tree later
because they only did part of it and all

762
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,228
» that was brought up at our pre-con
meeting.

763
00:55:38,573 --> 00:55:42,359
[clears throat]
[snorts] Um

764
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:49,680
the Shelberg Park I think the park group
is great. I just I in the back of my

765
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:55,599
mind I think about all the times we've
given parks to other entities. They've

766
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:59,119
done work and then can't maintain it. Um
it and that's a big undertaking for

767
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:02,559
them. You know there's other trails in
town and they seem to hold up okay. I

768
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,440
don't know what Todd's impact is for
long-term maintenance on them. That's

769
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,319
just a bigger bite.
>> Yeah, we we're making sure that we get

770
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,440
we just want to get feedback of what
people want and then from there really

771
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:16,079
see what the feasibility of those type
of projects are. Uh for instance, trail

772
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:21,119
running is as simple as having basically
a groom trail, a dirt trail. Um they

773
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:24,240
just want markers like half mile,
quarter mile, whatever it might be. If

774
00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:26,079
it's that all they want, that's an easy
undertaking to do

775
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,960
» as long as it maintains.
>> In terms of building structures for like

776
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:33,520
um single track mountain biking, that is
a far bigger undertaking. I do agree

777
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:42,480
with that.
>> Okay. As long as Perfect. the the bog

778
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:47,680
bridge, the um the stuff behind uh
we'll just say by the the lower mill

779
00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:51,280
pond, what what is uh what's the
church's involvement in it? The church

780
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:54,799
has expressed interest to build a
pedestrian bridge. Uh unrelated, but

781
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:59,200
we're trying to tie that in with them,
too. Uh in the past, they have they've

782
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:03,119
uh said that they'd be willing to talk
about potentially pedestrian bridge

783
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,960
there because they have a lot of people
that come to that little corner church

784
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:11,040
there and it be easier and it' be easier
parking everybody else.

785
00:57:08,319 --> 00:57:13,599
» Okay. And then
the DNR property, is that just related

786
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,880
to the
>> the bog bridge I was talking about? Uh

787
00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:22,240
because they want to do it all along the
creek. the village only owns up to a

788
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:26,079
certain point. So the DNR has to give
the village access to do it, which then

789
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:30,319
we will give anou with the trails group.
So we have to be the entity that allows

790
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:33,920
it though. Uh so that's where it gets
gets a little confusing.

791
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:38,880
» But I'm looking at the GIS right now.
The DNR property doesn't start until you

792
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:42,559
get quite a ways back to the northeast.
>> Yep. I just had a meeting with them want

793
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,599
the bridge to be up that far.
>> No, no, that's different. The bridge is

794
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,520
going to cross where the busy bean is.
They're creating a bog bridge along the

795
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:52,880
creek side. So So you can do a have a
walking path around it.

796
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:55,839
» So is there a So it's not a bridge to
the other side.

797
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,720
» Um at at what they're proposing right
now, that would not be the bridge.

798
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,920
That's why I said those are those are
two different

799
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,119
» two different bridges.
>> Two different bridges type things. Yeah.

800
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,079
» So who's going to build a bridge across
the creek?

801
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:10,000
» That that would be potentially Cedar
Bend and the Trails Group.

802
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:13,040
» Okay. So they're still looking at
>> Okay. But neither the DNR would be

803
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,599
involved because of the creek side.
>> Yeah. I was blending some things

804
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:19,440
together there.
>> It's it's um once again all this might

805
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,720
not happen. We're just in communication
with all the

806
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:27,200
» I think everybody would be in favor of a
bridge and utilizing

807
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:33,400
area.
Um okay, that might be it. Hang on.

808
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:33,400
Maybe turn the next page.

809
00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:45,440
I think that's it. Thanks. Anybody else
have any questions for Devon on the

810
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:49,839
» Oh, I had one more question.
>> Sorry. Because it wasn't on this list.

811
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,880
Um I thought it was in one of your
weekly emails. It actually I looked

812
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:57,680
back. It was in Todd's.
>> There was a pending meeting with the

813
00:58:54,160 --> 00:59:02,400
fair board. Oh, I I couldn't make it. I
was dealing with this really bad that

814
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:06,559
week. So, I did meet with Brandon from
the fair board and I said that the

815
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:10,559
village is is all in favor of helping
however we can to make this the best

816
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:14,799
event for everyone. I expressed that the
village wants to work with the fair

817
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:19,119
board uh just as long as we we plan to
have a pre-sight meeting sometime in a

818
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:22,480
in April or May to really realign out
where the parking is going to be and

819
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:26,400
those type of things. But we really want
to meet earlier. Um I really wanted to

820
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:31,119
make the meeting. Unfortunately, I had
no voice so I couldn't even speak. Um,

821
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:34,240
but I did relay that to Brandon uh with
the fair board about our willingness to

822
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:38,319
work with them and that we want to make
sure this the best event for the public.

823
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:41,280
I 100% agree early. I'd like to see you
do March so you could come back to us in

824
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:45,119
April and then there's can be some
banter back and forth. I'd hate to have

825
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:48,400
this wait till April, May, and then not
us on the board not hear about it until

826
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,960
August and then all of a sudden boom,
it's September.

827
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:54,000
» Yeah. And we realize too that we they
they also realize too that they have to

828
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:58,559
submit their permit earlier so we can
get notes to them way ahead of time too.

829
00:59:56,559 --> 01:00:01,119
uh they can't submit it in July like
last year.

830
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,720
» That's the same with every veter.
>> Yeah.

831
01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:07,359
» Well, especially one that brings in
thousands of people, [clears throat]

832
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:11,440
» you know. Okay. If we can get I don't if
that can be a topic maybe for maybe Todd

833
01:00:09,839 --> 01:00:18,520
your report next month or something. I'd
like to keep tracking it. Good for

834
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,520
everybody. Okay. No, I'm done. Promise.

835
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:28,160
Else.
All right. Thanks, Devin. Uh 5B is not

836
01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:31,599
applicable. So we're going to move to
item six on the agenda, which is the

837
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:36,720
public hearing portion of our meeting to
accept written and oral testimony

838
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:41,359
regarding village ordinance 2601. We're
going to be amending chapter 2011, the

839
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:48,880
utility to add article 6, storm water
utility to the village code.

840
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:53,760
At this point, we are open to accept
written and oral testimony from anybody

841
01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:55,359
as uh a public hearing. I don't Do we
need a motion to open this public

842
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,400
hearing?
>> Yes, please.

843
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,400
» I make a motion.

844
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:04,167
» And I'll second. [laughter]

845
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,200
» Have a motion by Mike and a second by
Nicole.

846
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,000
» Open the public hearing.
>> To open the public hearing. All those in

847
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:18,359
favor say I.
>> I.

848
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:18,359
» I. Both say no. All right, we are open.

849
01:01:20,319 --> 01:01:29,839
Kimmel County, 5043rd Avenue.
On your key points here on this, you're

850
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:34,000
going to set a uh another resolution for
the amount

851
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:37,520
of what this storm is going to cost us.
Why isn't that in here? We don't know

852
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:42,760
what the cost is. So, you're going to
pass a resolution and not tell us what

853
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:42,760
the cost is.

854
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,559
That's later. But, I mean, why? It could
be any amount then. Why would we pass

855
01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:52,720
something and we not know what we're
going to get charged?

856
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:56,160
I don't understand why that isn't in
there.

857
01:01:54,480 --> 01:02:01,040
Uh [groaning]
that to me didn't seem right that we

858
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:06,559
that you didn't set uh what the rates
were or anything which should be easy to

859
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:13,520
set cuz when it first come out you said
275 $2.75 and stuff but now

860
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:17,920
could be 10 times that. It could be the
same as the water bill could be 60 bucks

861
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:22,960
a month 80 bucks. So, I don't know why
you should pass that. And then I think

862
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:26,960
on the end where it says uh when you
have an administrative appeal, you

863
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:31,839
should maybe talk to your corp council.
Shouldn't that go through the BOA?

864
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:38,599
Usually an administrative appeal goes to
a board of adjustments.

865
01:02:34,319 --> 01:02:38,599
So, that's all I have. Thank you.

866
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,960
» Thanks, Kim.

867
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:55,319
5B. Uh, it said that there was no report
for the Oola Wisconsin Main Street. It

868
01:02:49,839 --> 01:02:55,319
said NA on the Yeah, it said NA on the

869
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:04,960
Sorry.
Anybody else on public hearing?

870
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,880
I'll entertain a motion to close it.
>> Public hearing.

871
01:03:05,839 --> 01:03:10,960
» Second it.
>> Okay. A motion by Mike and a second by

872
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:20,000
Nicole to close public hearing. All
those in favor say I. I. Post say no.

873
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:25,599
Motion carries. All right. After that is
6A, any action that we may take on the

874
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:28,799
public hearing. And
I think that uh Kim brings up a good

875
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,839
point, but I think we also don't we have
a rate schedule at the back of our

876
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,079
village code, which is why we wouldn't
put it here.

877
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:42,240
We would add this part to village code,
but then we also have a rate and fee

878
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,000
schedule that gets monitored.
>> Yeah. resolution. I

879
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:47,359
» was going to say we're going to have
another resolution to take that and put

880
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:50,720
that into the P schedule, right? At the
end of our code. Yeah.

881
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:55,724
» Yeah. So, this is the the ordinance to
be able to create the utility um but

882
01:03:53,440 --> 01:04:00,240
doesn't set the rates. Uh
[clears throat] so, I'll just kick us

883
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:05,599
off here a little bit, but apologize. Um
my colleague Emily wasn't able to be

884
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:09,920
here tonight. A personal item came up.
Um, we have online Lily Hawk who is

885
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:15,119
involved with Emily on the the creation
of the utility and and [snorts] both the

886
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:18,079
writing of the ordinance and also some
of the background information, some

887
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:23,680
stuff that we talked about before with
with setting rates and and how all that

888
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:29,680
works. So
um I don't know specifics you want to to

889
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:34,559
go through but this is basically
creation of the utility rates as we

890
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:39,599
mentioned um would be set as part of a
separate resolution and we did talk

891
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:42,160
about rates specifically
like at last month's

892
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:47,920
» yeah it was a recommendation to do the
275 with the averages that was Emily

893
01:04:46,319 --> 01:04:51,680
» would that would that additional
resolution be something that would also

894
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,760
go through public hearing then before
being adopted.

895
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,640
» Resolutions do not need a public
hearing, but we can host we can host

896
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,599
one.
>> Okay. I I mean, given the fact that

897
01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:02,640
there's expressed interest, I would
think that that would be reasonable. So,

898
01:05:01,359 --> 01:05:07,039
» there's been some really good discussion
on it, and I think Todd did a pretty

899
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:09,680
good analysis of
get making an assumption of what he

900
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:13,039
could spend in a year. And I think
everybody's conversation in those

901
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:17,359
meetings about it talked about let's try
it for a year. Um, your staff did a

902
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:23,200
great job of giving us a range of
numbers. We picked something in the

903
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:26,319
middle to try it. Um, it hasn't been
fixed in a while, so I think there's

904
01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:30,400
probably an outstanding need. So, worst
case, we're heck, we're consent too

905
01:05:28,799 --> 01:05:34,640
high. I'm sure Todd can find a place to
fix it.

906
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:40,160
» Oh, yeah. We have far over severe
repairs to do. Um, we're we're probably,

907
01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:43,359
you know, two $300,000 of repairs that
we we could do right now if we wanted

908
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:50,079
to.
>> I approve worse things

909
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:56,000
» and it's we're easing into this. So
>> as in this ordinance um it talks about

910
01:05:52,960 --> 01:06:00,480
calculating fees and the method that's
listed here is what

911
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:05,839
» uh the
person went through with us both at the

912
01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:08,160
hearing Nicole and I were at and at the
board meeting last month.

913
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:12,799
» Right.
>> 275

914
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:17,599
was calculated using this method.
>> It's like 250 to three bucks.

915
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:22,880
» Yeah. We had a we had that range of of
what where to be at and yeah that was

916
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:28,319
» so I I guess my point is the likelihood
that it's suddenly going to become $80

917
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:32,960
is not really
>> for a residential home

918
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:38,559
» because a residential is one unit which
would be the minimum.

919
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:42,240
» We have a close ballpark figure based on
calculations used by the Yeah.

920
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:51,920
Uh this ordinance would start would have
a start date for the utility of April

921
01:06:50,611 --> 01:06:56,160
[clears throat] 15th. So it' be on the
May utility bill

922
01:06:53,680 --> 01:07:01,520
» and we would need to set and adopt
another ordinance for rates

923
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:05,200
» another rate another resolution to
establish rates before this comes into

924
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,520
effect anyway. Right.
>> First we need to approve the ordinance

925
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:12,000
before we get into the rates.
>> Have to add it to the code first. So,

926
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:16,400
okay. I will entertain a motion to adopt
this ordinance.

927
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,280
Thank you, Ron.
>> Is there a second?

928
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:24,319
» Thank you, Arvid. We have a motion and a
second to adopt

929
01:07:21,839 --> 01:07:27,839
ordinance 261.
It's first one of the year. All those in

930
01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:32,720
favor say I.
>> I. Post say no.

931
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:36,720
» Motion carries. Mo and ordinance is
adopted. So, yeah. Could you please make

932
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:42,599
sure that we get a public hearing on the
next item that we do related to rates?

933
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:50,799
Okay. Uh that takes care of item six,
public hearing. We're moving to seven

934
01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:56,480
other business discussion and possible
action regarding 7A MPS mark MPS parking

935
01:07:53,839 --> 01:08:02,599
enforcement safety sticks. [laughter]
Excuse me. [clears throat] Sorry.

936
01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:02,599
Mike on there.

937
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:15,760
I can't read those names.
>> Mike Asher.

938
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:19,279
» Yeah. Mike, can you hear us?
>> Yeah, I can hear you.

939
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:23,440
» Uh, are you you presenting a PowerPoint
from your screen or you want me to run

940
01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:27,759
through the PowerPoint on the packet?
>> Yeah. Why don't you run through it on

941
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:33,520
your side? I've got uh Jason Flam is
with us as well. I think he's going to

942
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:37,799
kick it off for us. Okay.
>> All right. Uh, you're up.

943
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:42,279
» Jason,

944
01:08:52,400 --> 01:09:01,080
Jason, we can't hear you.
Muted.

945
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,080
Apparently,

946
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:09,880
he's gone awall on us.
>> I think I hit

947
01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:09,880
» He's muted. Can you unmute him?

948
01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:17,679
» No, we should be good.
>> Can you guys hear me?

949
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:22,159
» Yeah, Jason,
>> apologize. I had some uh technical

950
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:27,120
difficulties there, but uh yeah, thank
you for the opportunity to um uh to

951
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:32,080
speak to you all today. Appreciate it.
Um, so Devon, I think I I can't see what

952
01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:36,560
you're showing on the screen, but I
think what I'll do is I'll give you just

953
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:39,199
the the very quick overview of of MPS
and then take you guys

954
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:42,319
» I have your whole presentation here, so
if you just keep going from the start to

955
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:49,839
the finish, we should be fine.
>> Okay. So maybe just to kick it off,

956
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:55,280
introduce myself and Mike. So, um, I've
been with the MPS for the last, uh, 13

957
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:59,760
years and head up corporate development
and, uh, a lot of the strategy, uh,

958
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:05,520
initiatives. Uh, Mike, who also is on
the call, um, really heads up our

959
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:14,080
customer success and operations within
MPS. Um so [clears throat] MPS the quick

960
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:19,199
commercial um we've been doing vision
based technologies for the last uh 12 or

961
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:24,320
13 years really were a pioneer in
developing this technology and and

962
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:29,520
patenting it. And really what it's all
about is uh monitoring

963
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:36,800
uh parking environments and at the end
of the day um monitoring and enforcing

964
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:40,800
rules that cities put in place. It's
really as as simple as that. So we use

965
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:45,440
our vision technologies in in parking
envir in parking lots on street

966
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:50,800
environments and in this case if I think
the focus initially is on um restricted

967
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:57,520
parking areas areas that you are never
supposed to park in and create candidly

968
01:10:54,480 --> 01:11:03,520
safety hazards. Um when folks park in a
crosswalk it obstructs uh uh other

969
01:11:01,199 --> 01:11:10,560
vehicles views. if you park in front of
a fire hydrant, uh there's obvious

970
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:13,440
safety uh concerns there as well. So,
you know, our technologies have been

971
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:19,840
kind of battle tested throughout the
United States. We're in over 37 cities,

972
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:24,320
uh over a thousand locations. Um really
have touched uh many different use

973
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:28,320
cases. there's very few use cases that
we haven't been able to effectively

974
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:35,360
address, but at the end of the day, you
know, our our service is really around

975
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:42,880
um adapting to the the rules and and uh
challenges that that cities have using

976
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:46,560
uh technology. So, in the case of um uh
Acyola, you know, we've had the chance

977
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:52,320
to to to walk the streets and and listen
to some of the city's uh challenges and

978
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:56,159
and and goals, and we've come up with a
a proposal that u um you've

979
01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:59,600
[clears throat] all probably had a
chance to look at, but I I'll be happy

980
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:04,159
to kind of walk you through the the
highlights. So,

981
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:08,640
um,
what what comes as a surprise to to to

982
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:15,520
most cities and and even private
operators that we work with is is a is a

983
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:20,960
a challenge or behavior or
uh uh an issue that that most cities

984
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:25,679
don't know that they actually have. And
and what is that? That's the the the

985
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:31,760
fact that there's a shocking amount of
of bad behavior in parking. Um that may

986
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:35,920
may surprise some, maybe not others, but
we we've been able to demonstrate uh

987
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:40,719
over the last 10 years and tens of
millions of parking sessions that in in

988
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:45,120
in many parking environments
a very high portion of of people that

989
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:50,640
park are are not following the the
rules. Um, and you know, by our our

990
01:12:48,719 --> 01:12:55,760
statistics, in in many instances, it's
as high as 40% of the people are staying

991
01:12:53,040 --> 01:13:02,320
well beyond, you know, the stated uh uh
timelines or um failing to pay what they

992
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:07,920
should or or parking in in in dangerous
settings that frankly you should never

993
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:12,239
park in like a fire hydrant. Um, so what
we've done is is taken a take a stab at

994
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:17,920
uh laying out, you know, what would our
technology look like across um Oyola. Um

995
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:22,719
just as a as a first blush we you know
we uh uh took some liberties to say all

996
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:26,640
right what if we used our whole
portfolio of technologies to really

997
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:31,440
address holistically the whole whole
city. Obviously [snorts] we we um don't

998
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:37,040
need to do that. We can do just
subsegments of it. But with for the

999
01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:41,280
uh illustrative purposes here we we did
um show what it would look like if if we

1000
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:46,800
laid out the technology across the city.
And I'll start real quickly and kind of

1001
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:51,520
go through this, but uh on Cascade
Street, the main street, uh what we

1002
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:58,331
proposed, uh in order to monitor your
2-hour time limits was to to put up, uh

1003
01:13:54,640 --> 01:14:04,159
a handful of uh overhead cameras um that
[snorts] basically monitor vehicles as

1004
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:11,760
they enter and exit that twob block
area. And um the policies today is is a

1005
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:18,400
two-hour time limit. So we would uh flag
any vehicles that stayed within that

1006
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:23,280
zone longer than 2 hours. Um when that
happens uh using our you know al

1007
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:31,040
algorithms and AI and also human
verification we then you know submit a a

1008
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:37,040
a uh uh a violation notice for
representative of the city to to review

1009
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:41,360
with them um and and uh hit hit the go
or no go button. And so at the end of

1010
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:45,440
the day, it's really um left to you uh
to decide um is this a valid violation

1011
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:52,560
or not? And and do you want to enforce
it? Um we provide the tools um uh for

1012
01:14:50,159 --> 01:15:00,159
you to do so and and all the the
verification and and backup

1013
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:06,080
um documentation for that. So zone one
or the the first pass was looking at

1014
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:11,760
just just monitoring that two-hour uh
maximum stay limit. The second pass was

1015
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:16,239
taking a look at uh um you know the kind
of what we call restricted parking areas

1016
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:23,040
or or no parking areas. So a handful of
of uh fire hydrants, crosswalks

1017
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:28,960
um that typically or historically have
been abused. Um, and so that's the

1018
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:34,480
second pass here. And then the third
pass was all right. You know, looking

1019
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:40,719
forward uh uh taking a pass at at
monitoring the uh time limits in in

1020
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:44,960
various parking lot settings.
So, I don't think we need to kind of

1021
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:49,920
dive into all all of the uh uh pictures
here, but you can see as you page

1022
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:54,080
through um you know, we superimposed
what where the cameras would be ideally

1023
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:58,480
placed and [clears throat] the areas of
interest that the uh the cameras would

1024
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:04,960
be focused on.
So again, I think at at the end of the

1025
01:16:00,719 --> 01:16:07,760
day, um we've we've, you know, been um
had the the good fortune of dealing with

1026
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:13,440
a lot of different cities, all different
sizes, other cities within uh Wisconsin.

1027
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:17,760
Um and each city is a little bit
different and each city has their own

1028
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:23,600
pain points. But I think the the beauty
of our system, it allows um uh us to

1029
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:26,880
address most of those pain points. As I
mentioned before, I think there's very

1030
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:32,320
few few instances where we haven't found
a creative way to um kind of match our

1031
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:37,920
technology with your your needs to um
change behavior. So, at the end of the

1032
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:42,400
day, again, uh enforcement is a tool to
change behavior, bad behavior, whether

1033
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:47,360
that's uh parking in places you
shouldn't park or parking beyond the

1034
01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:54,159
length of stay that you are allowed to
park. So the key um to a lot of downtown

1035
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:58,960
areas and main streets is is turnover.
And we hear this from you know most of

1036
01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:07,600
the cities we work with that turnover is
is the um key component to um creating

1037
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:12,239
open space and parking availability for
for parking patrons of of the

1038
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:16,640
businesses. What we find and this is
comes at as a surprise to a lot of

1039
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:22,880
cities as we you know do do pilots who
are going to production is that we find

1040
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:27,840
that um a lot a significant number of
cars stay well beyond that 2hour

1041
01:17:25,968 --> 01:17:32,400
[snorts] maximum stay and then diving a
little bit deeper under the covers it

1042
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:37,920
turns out that in many cities it's
actually the employees in many cases

1043
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:42,080
that are staying and taking up valuable
parking spaces and parking on on Main

1044
01:17:39,679 --> 01:17:48,320
Street And in fact, they probably are
better suited and um uh to to park in

1045
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:53,840
the parking lots or you know save that
valuable space for patrons. So it really

1046
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:58,080
is about creating space turnover and and
parking availability for patrons of

1047
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:03,760
businesses. Um that's kind of the
fundamental tenant of of of enforcement

1048
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:09,920
and and consistent enforcement is really
the only way uh to change behavior. So,

1049
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:16,800
our system obviously uh uses vision
based cameras to monitor 247 and and

1050
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:22,560
provide that um consistent enforcement
that you know really is not possible

1051
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:27,840
with manual um feet on the street. So,
that's kind of the the quick overview.

1052
01:18:25,199 --> 01:18:31,120
Um hopefully I didn't uh take too much
of your time, but really appreciate it

1053
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:36,880
and uh happy to address any questions
that you may have.

1054
01:18:34,719 --> 01:18:40,560
I understand this technology, right?
Using the liquor store parking lot, you

1055
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:45,440
must read a license plate on the way in
and then measure when it leaves. That

1056
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:50,320
accurate?
>> That's correct.

1057
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:55,679
» Out of that liquor store parking lot, I
think the village owns 19 spots, right?

1058
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:59,760
Some of the ballpark. Yes. What do we do
with the other 17? Uh, it would come

1059
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:05,760
down to the uses of what they're going
to be. Um the the parking lots. Yeah.

1060
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:09,360
And um the people who live there would
be absolutely exempt from it because you

1061
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:12,480
would put their license plate into it.
Uh the parking lot is also one of those

1062
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:16,320
areas where they're just showing what
you can do. Uh tonight is the kind of

1063
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:19,920
proposal of looking getting direction
from board. This is something they even

1064
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:23,280
want the appetite for. At the November
board meeting, uh there was a motion

1065
01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:26,880
saying at least let's explore this what
it might look like and ideas. Tonight's

1066
01:19:25,679 --> 01:19:30,480
not tying you to any decision
whatsoever. more or less learning how

1067
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:34,560
the system works and if we want to go
further down to figure out if this is

1068
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:38,560
something we want to explore. Um it was
originally brought up as a safety issue

1069
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:43,840
of of I wanted to explore around
hydrants crosswalks um and potential

1070
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:47,280
dangerous issues to make sure that we we
are really um protecting our citizens

1071
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:51,360
with the crosswalks especially what
happened uh we've had two incidences of

1072
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:54,239
pedestrians can hit this summer or this
year. So, one of those things you have a

1073
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:57,679
camera on it, you can see more
information to and providing those kind

1074
01:19:55,679 --> 01:20:01,199
of things. And then the police wanted to
look at the avenue of enforcing our own

1075
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:06,000
existing ordinances that we currently
have that are not practical for us to

1076
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:10,159
enforce as as they are now is they're
way too labor intensive to be even

1077
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:15,199
actively enforced. So, it was kind of a
manyful thing of why we're looking at

1078
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:18,800
doing this. Um, and tonight is really
kind of, you know, getting direction to

1079
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:23,120
something we want to look at, not look
at. what scope do you want to to

1080
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:27,440
continue down? Um, so all these
questions are relevant in that in that

1081
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:31,360
discussion that you're having and you
are right that people would have to like

1082
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:35,120
especially the private residences either
you they have to validate or they're the

1083
01:20:33,679 --> 01:20:38,800
license plate would have to be on record
where they're exempt from all from all

1084
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:43,760
meters going in and out.
>> Well, to that one in particular, Frank

1085
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:48,159
and Michelle at the dry cleaners own
one, two, three, four, five or six of

1086
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:53,600
them and they wouldn't have residents.
they'd have transient people.

1087
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:57,600
Um, let's go back to a fun a big picture
question. So, Eric reminded us in June

1088
01:20:56,239 --> 01:21:00,400
that we were going to table this until
after the bridge. How did it end up on

1089
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:06,320
the November meeting?
>> Let me let me address that. These are

1090
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:12,239
two separate issues. We tabled we tabled
the twohour or the the parking meter

1091
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:15,840
parking until after the bridge. This
what we're looking at now is an existing

1092
01:21:13,679 --> 01:21:21,760
ordinance been on book for over 30 years
for two-hour parking. And over the last

1093
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:26,159
18 years or whatever 15 years while I
was at the village, we did write parking

1094
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:31,040
tickets, but back then the parking
tickets were $5 and $10 each. You have

1095
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:33,840
to mark the tires, come back two and a
half hours later to make sure two hours

1096
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:37,920
had passed, make sure the vehicle hadn't
moved, and then take at least 10 or 15

1097
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:41,760
minutes to write a ticket for a$5 or $10
ticket. And we had businesses, in fact,

1098
01:21:40,239 --> 01:21:45,520
up until I retired, we had businesses
that still called and said, "I'm tired

1099
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:49,920
of these vehicles parking in front of my
business for hours on end and forced to

1100
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:54,159
our parking." We would try to do it, but
it came down to manpower, staffing,

1101
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:59,760
everything else. A few years ago, we up
the parking, no parking violations to

1102
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:03,840
$30 a ticket. Most cities, it's 70, 80,
$90 a ticket, right? It still comes down

1103
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:09,840
to manpower. We haven't had enough
officers to fill shifts, let alone come

1104
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:13,280
out and work enforcement and parking
enforcement for for these businesses who

1105
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:17,040
didn't want vehicles parked out in front
of their business all day. Right. This

1106
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:20,560
is an existing ordinance. It's been on
the book for over 30 years. We have

1107
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:26,800
enforced it when we could. We've had
requests to enforce it. And now with

1108
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:30,159
technology, we can enforce it. And I and
maybe been in town for a while, you've

1109
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:34,800
seen vehicles parked on corners where
there's no parking. person in Cascade.

1110
01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:38,560
Great spot. You've seen vehicles parked
in crosswalks. You've seen vehicle

1111
01:22:36,719 --> 01:22:42,880
parked, you know, in spots you're not
supposed to park just for a quick in and

1112
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:48,000
out. That's how accidents happen. Now
using technology

1113
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:52,800
we can enforce the areas that we want to
enforce especially crosswalks, no

1114
01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:59,120
parking zones, stop light, a stoplight
in town and other areas, high traffic

1115
01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:03,199
areas and to our parking
at at barely no cost with an extra

1116
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:07,040
additional screening measure in place to
avoid people who have permission to park

1117
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:11,520
there or private parking spots. This is
something that I personally have wanted

1118
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:15,840
to see for a lot of years because it
just enhances an already existing law

1119
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:19,199
that we have on the books ordinance.
>> Maybe that begs the question because it

1120
01:23:17,199 --> 01:23:22,560
sounds like the tone's changed. If if
Eric has any validity in what he said,

1121
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,840
doesn't sound like the businesses are
interested.

1122
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:28,960
» It's It sounds like there's a mixture of
some that don't want it and some that

1123
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:32,320
do. I mean, that's to be expected. I
think there's individual groups,

1124
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:35,679
» right? Some people want to hear who does
what?

1125
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:38,159
» We have a the bottom line is are we
going to repeal the two-hour parking

1126
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,960
ordinance? Is that what we're talking
about here? Are we going to keep it

1127
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:44,639
enforced and keep it standard? Because
communities who do this consistently

1128
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:48,159
don't have an issue with it. People know
it's two-hour parking. They come in,

1129
01:23:46,639 --> 01:23:52,159
they park, they know they have to leave,
they leave. Right. This is not a change

1130
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:56,960
from what we have. It's just a way to
use technology to enforce it.

1131
01:23:54,800 --> 01:24:02,320
» So,
let's see.

1132
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:05,199
That's my take on that.
>> I I would probably agree, Ron. It must

1133
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:07,600
be hard to enforce because I did a
public request [clears throat] for

1134
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:10,239
information today to see how many
tickets have been written. There's been

1135
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,440
five in two years,
>> right?

1136
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:16,080
» So, I I wonder is it is it because they
don't have the resources to do it or is

1137
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:21,360
there just not an issue?
>> Resources and basically resources and

1138
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:24,719
the issue priority, right? When you have
less resources, you have higher priority

1139
01:24:22,719 --> 01:24:28,159
calls. So to the to the safety thing,
too. The the one other accident that

1140
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:32,239
happened in downtown wasn't even on a
street that's being addressed by this.

1141
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:35,120
» Yeah, I I can't I can't speak to that,
but I I can say that

1142
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:38,320
» you know where the accident was. You can
>> I can't because I know that when people

1143
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:42,239
when vehicles parked, we're not supposed
to leave for two minutes to run in and

1144
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:47,199
out to go somewhere. An accident can
happen. It can, but it hasn't.

1145
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:50,400
» But the other accident was on Cascade.
>> Yes.

1146
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:54,560
» Was it on or Cascade? It
>> was on Cascade. in a crosswalk

1147
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:59,320
» at a crosswalk.
>> No, it was not in a crosswalk. Nope.

1148
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:07,760
» So, so Ron does bring up a good
question. Why do we have a 2-hour

1149
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:12,719
ordinance?
>> That's my comment today to a few people

1150
01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:15,760
that asked. I said, um, we're not
enforcing ordinance as is. So, either

1151
01:25:14,239 --> 01:25:19,440
we're going to enforce it or we repeal
it. Um, because right now we currently

1152
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:23,120
have signs up up and down Cascade saying
two-hour parking only. And some say five

1153
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:26,000
minutes and some say 15. We have
different spots. But

1154
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:30,800
» right, but where did that come from? I
mean, Eric is saying

1155
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:34,800
nobody, none of the businesses want it.
It had to have been wanted by somebody

1156
01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:38,159
at some point. And I'm saying
>> I suspect it was the businesses.

1157
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:43,120
» I had a conversation with Frank today,
too, about that, and he is in favor of

1158
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:47,440
it in front of his building. However,
he's the only one, and he's been able to

1159
01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:51,040
manage it. And the problem that he's had
has been the people over at the thrift

1160
01:25:49,679 --> 01:25:53,840
shop across the street. He said, "You
know what? Park in my other spots. You

1161
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:57,679
know, if you're going to be here all
day, just don't use that the two spots

1162
01:25:55,520 --> 01:26:02,159
in front of his business." So, that and
the post office are really the only like

1163
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:05,920
heavy transient people that want to keep
rotation. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure

1164
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:08,800
Eric listed every other business
downtown. He He didn't, Mike, because I

1165
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:12,239
got a couple my head
>> with with the exception of Chieftain

1166
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:15,760
Street, which we're not even addressing
here because I would agree there's

1167
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:18,639
probably some issues on Chieftain,
>> but we don't have any we're not

1168
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:22,880
addressing anything there.
>> Yeah, but I think this was just like a

1169
01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:28,719
proposal. I mean, we could add Chieftain
Street if that's what you would like.

1170
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:31,120
» We We're finding a solution to a problem
that I don't think anybody wants to

1171
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,000
solve.
>> I'm just saying that you brought up

1172
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,960
Chieftain Street, so I'm telling you a
solution if you wanted to add it. I

1173
01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:40,000
think you have said there's an
underlying agenda here and I'm not

1174
01:26:38,719 --> 01:26:42,800
interested in it and I'm going to
continue to poke holes in this

1175
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:48,520
» also
>> until we go away.

1176
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,520
» What' you say?

1177
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:54,040
» I said there was also 15

1178
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:08,560
response so we can read it. [laughter]
You try that again [clears throat]

1179
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:15,040
one more time. Vanam,
>> there was over 1500 signature

1180
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:18,440
prior to this meeting people that
opposed it

1181
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:26,159
» and 1500 people opposed it.
>> Yeah, I think that that was related to

1182
01:27:22,719 --> 01:27:30,719
the the um the signatures that were
circulated last time. Um but that was

1183
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:34,239
when the conversation was centered
around. I think there was another 600

1184
01:27:32,719 --> 01:27:36,880
yet today though just on the card
agenda.

1185
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:40,159
» I think there's I think there's a lot of
misinformation out there though.

1186
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:43,280
» Well, it's unfortunate that the the
conversation is not being cast in a

1187
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:46,960
light that's productive because it
centers around paid parking

1188
01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:51,840
» parking meters
>> and parking meters and that I think

1189
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:54,159
that's unfortunately biasing the
conversation but

1190
01:27:52,960 --> 01:28:00,800
» object to that.
>> Can we not have G gallery? We've already

1191
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:04,360
like we have to keep Yeah, there's a
Sorry. But

1192
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:14,400
» yeah, and I I don't want to debate the
merits of whether or not a business is

1193
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:17,520
or for or opposed it. I mean, businesses
come and go, so there's going to be

1194
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:22,159
other businesses that may or may not be
in favor of doing something. But I think

1195
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:28,639
the bigger issue here is that we have
laws. And I mean, I seem to recall

1196
01:28:25,679 --> 01:28:31,920
getting challenged even myself about
whether or not there was appropriate

1197
01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:35,360
enforcement going on for other
ordinances that are already on the

1198
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:40,159
books. So, are we going to enforce the
ordinances that we have or are we not?

1199
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:44,080
And if we're not, then maybe they need
to be changed.

1200
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:47,920
» And you know, Mike, I heard you refer to
alternative motives. Is it financial? Is

1201
01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:50,639
that what you're getting at? I I don't
see how this is not going to track down

1202
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:53,679
the path of
>> if it was fighting. Well,

1203
01:28:52,159 --> 01:28:56,000
» that's a separate issue. Right now,
we're talking about

1204
01:28:55,120 --> 01:29:00,719
» enforcement. Yeah.
>> Enforcement of existing laws for

1205
01:28:58,159 --> 01:29:03,920
two-hour parking, including handicap
areas, no parking zones, and other

1206
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,840
dangerous stuff.
>> Fire hydrants,

1207
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:10,159
» fire hydrants.
>> This is what we're looking at.

1208
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:14,080
» And I I want to say the proposal was the
basically two over and everything. It

1209
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:16,960
can be as simple as the safety sticks
and the areas that you're concerned

1210
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:21,040
about, too. It can be as simple as
nothing tonight. Like I said, there was

1211
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:24,719
no formal thing being presented to you.
It was discussion to figure out a

1212
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:30,159
direction we want to go.
>> At this point, I personally be happy. I

1213
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:34,560
mean, if if it made other people happy
trying this out with a safety sticks

1214
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:39,679
just in the dangerous areas, right, the
crosswalks, the no parking zones, the

1215
01:29:36,639 --> 01:29:43,360
the other areas we've listed, right? And
then seeing where that goes. the

1216
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:48,560
two-hour parking is not going to go away
because some businesses now don't favor

1217
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:52,080
it, but some businesses do. And like
like was just brought up here,

1218
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:54,960
businesses can come and go and their
their needs and wants will change, but

1219
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:58,560
this ordinance has been on the books for
over 30 years. And if we're going to

1220
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:02,800
have it, we need to enforce it. Now, we
have technology that can help do that

1221
01:30:00,719 --> 01:30:08,280
efficiently.
So, I would support something like this.

1222
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:18,800
I just want to ask a logistical question
to uh Mike there at MPS. You got these

1223
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:24,400
photos of downtown. Are the blue areas
meant to be in the crosswalks? Cuz some

1224
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:31,040
of them are not. The the blue area, it's
meant to be it's it's not be exact. It's

1225
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:36,080
meant to be uh illustrative of where the
camera would kind of focus into where it

1226
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:39,600
would detect the vehicle and the plate.
So, it's not meant to be exact. It's

1227
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:44,000
meant to be this is where we would
detect the vehicle and read the plate.

1228
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:47,600
So, you when you look at, you know, and
and again, this was all just kind of

1229
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:52,880
conceptually what could be done. If if
two if enforcing two hours is important

1230
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:57,760
to you, this is one way that you could
solve that problem. Um and and so this

1231
01:30:55,760 --> 01:31:01,600
was just kind of meant to show when a
vehicle so this particular one that's up

1232
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:06,560
right here when it's heading south on
Cascade when it's leaving that that

1233
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:11,679
southern block there we would read the
plate um because and that would match

1234
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:17,280
with a plate read that we had up um on
second where you know the vehicle went

1235
01:31:14,639 --> 01:31:21,040
in you know and and presumably traffic's
just going to flow through there and you

1236
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:25,600
know we'd read a plate going in and read
a plate going out you know they were

1237
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:32,000
they were on the street for I don't know
15 20 seconds. If they parked, we would

1238
01:31:28,639 --> 01:31:36,000
read that exit, you know, x number of
minutes or hours later and those the

1239
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:40,239
entrance and exit would be matched up
and that would be a parking session and

1240
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:43,360
that parking session gets timed.
>> Mike, I do have a question for you.

1241
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:48,239
» Sure.
>> Say someone had a marathon shopping

1242
01:31:45,679 --> 01:31:53,360
spree at the grocery store and exited
entrance. Um, how would that be picked

1243
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:57,679
up? and sorry and did what?
>> Like uh say they came in Cascade at like

1244
01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:01,679
one and they went to the grocery store
for two hours and didn't pass into

1245
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:05,199
camera and came out the other end. Will
that trigger them to be as a park for

1246
01:32:04,159 --> 01:32:11,280
two hours?
>> Well, if we don't detect an exit, then

1247
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:15,360
the session doesn't get flagged.
>> But I'm saying if they if they come in

1248
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:19,440
one side and park at a at a private lot
for two hours and go out the other side,

1249
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:26,320
will that be flagged as two
>> park? Yeah. So, so if if the cameras

1250
01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:31,920
were set up to to No. So, the answer is
no because it would get architected to

1251
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:34,960
prevent that from happening. The the
illustrations I put here on the two

1252
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:39,520
blocks of Cascade there there's really
no ins and outs. There's only one way in

1253
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:43,520
and that's, you know, at the beginning
of the block and there's one way out at

1254
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:46,239
the end of the block. So, if there's
>> I just want to make sure no one be

1255
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:51,520
wrongfully ticketed.
>> No. And and that's that's it would be

1256
01:32:49,679 --> 01:32:55,000
architected such that nobody would be
wrongfully ticketed.

1257
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:02,684
» Did that answer your question?
>> Yes. Thank you.

1258
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:02,684
» Yep. [snorts]

1259
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:12,639
» So in terms of you know again this was
just meant as kind of illustrative of

1260
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:18,320
what we could do uh conceptually if
enforcing two hours is important. Um,

1261
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:22,800
you know, it it really depends on the
city and and what your goals are. I

1262
01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:26,880
mean, this discussion comes up a lot. If
if you would like, I have a a white

1263
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:31,760
paper that I like to share with
municipalities when we're having

1264
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:37,040
discussions with the curbside parking.
Um, it's comes out of the UCLA urban

1265
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:40,239
studies uh department. I didn't write
the paper. I don't know the guy who

1266
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:45,760
wrote the paper, but it's a really good
paper because it talks about the value

1267
01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:51,440
of that curbside parking um and how most
municipalities give it away like any

1268
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:55,360
utility that they wouldn't give away. Um
so it really talks about how to manage

1269
01:33:53,199 --> 01:34:00,159
that. Um you know, one of the discussion
points I heard early was, you know,

1270
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:04,000
employees are are taking these spots and
employees need a place to park. Um, and

1271
01:34:02,159 --> 01:34:07,840
if they're working eight hour shifts or
10 hour shifts or four hour shifts, they

1272
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:11,520
need to have a place where they can park
for four hours, six hours, eight hours,

1273
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:16,080
10 hours, whatever that case might be.
But typically, the way municipalities

1274
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:20,400
will set up their parking assets is that
for longer term parking, they'll put

1275
01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:25,600
that kind of on the perimeter of the
core. So, I'd view Cascade as kind of

1276
01:34:23,199 --> 01:34:29,920
your core. And you've got some lots. It
was mentioned behind the post office has

1277
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:34,480
got a lot. Um, and then by the liquor
store and just south of there. And I

1278
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:39,570
think there's also another lot uh to the
west of Cascade

1279
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:44,480
uh maybe on third if I recall correctly.
[clears throat] And you know you would

1280
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:48,320
set those up as 4 hour, 6 hour, 8 hour
and really encourage people to go that

1281
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:52,719
way for the people who are going to who
stay for a while. And then the turnover

1282
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:57,760
spots are the ones for the businesses so
you can get your people coming in

1283
01:34:55,360 --> 01:35:01,040
shop, dine, whatever the case might be.
Maybe it's two hours, maybe it's three

1284
01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:06,639
hours, whatever that number is. But you
want to have that turnover for those

1285
01:35:03,199 --> 01:35:10,960
transactional type of of uh uh
customers. So if you're interested, I'm

1286
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:15,440
happy to send you that white paper. You
can read it's it's good, you know,

1287
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:20,080
bedtime reading. Uh kind of talks about
managing managing those assets. Uh like

1288
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:25,239
I said, I have no stake in it, but it is
a good discussion point to to kind of

1289
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,239
read through it.

1290
01:35:32,639 --> 01:35:44,960
Maybe uh the opportunity exists here
again because this is hot

1291
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:50,560
to uh gather information on
perhaps the 2hour time period has gone

1292
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:58,080
away. Is there a different time period
that our businesses are interested in or

1293
01:35:54,239 --> 01:36:01,040
do they no longer care whatsoever?
>> Yeah, I was surprised that this didn't

1294
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,440
come through one of our and I'm going to
use the wrong term. Our chamber of

1295
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:07,280
commerce is
>> you know currently it's right now it's

1296
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:09,920
kind of a floating thing. Yeah, I know.
That's why I use that term loosely

1297
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:13,520
because I don't know what the group is,
but it's representative of the business

1298
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:19,280
that is in theory the people that Ron
suggested have the issue.

1299
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:22,000
» And without direction from you guys, I I
wanted to make sure we have directions

1300
01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:26,400
before I totally have a sit down meeting
with everyone. Unfortunately, like I

1301
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:30,159
said, today it really blew up. Uh
without direction from you, board, I

1302
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:36,320
can't present anything or a guidance of
a a conversation until I have parameters

1303
01:36:33,679 --> 01:36:40,000
really. uh because then we're starting I
don't like to start a project here. You

1304
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:44,800
want to funnel it down into an area that
we can actually discuss in a timely

1305
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:48,960
manner in a civil manner. Um and tonight
was really kind of the stepping stone of

1306
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:53,119
showing you the what is capable of doing
with the technology and if it's

1307
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:57,920
something we even want to to go down and
and to to look at. I I just want to

1308
01:36:55,520 --> 01:37:02,480
reiterate I see some a lot of gaps and a
lot of problems that we're going to run

1309
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:07,040
into. you know, um, we've got a
municipal lot being addressed. Chieftain

1310
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:11,920
Street's not we're not looking at it.
We've got the Valley Spirits lot that it

1311
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:18,159
Frank can let anybody park there as long
as he wants. Um, and then it ends up

1312
01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:21,280
being a piss match. There's um there's
at least well, let me phrase that. I

1313
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:27,679
know of one class action lawsuit that
this business is involved in over data.

1314
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:32,639
I'm we're going down a a path that we're
we found a solution to a problem. I'm

1315
01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:36,560
not sure anybody wants to solve.
It's It's a slippery slope.

1316
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:40,639
» I think our first problem that we need
to solve is parking for employees.

1317
01:37:38,719 --> 01:37:42,480
Really?
>> Well, that's

1318
01:37:41,119 --> 01:37:45,520
» I think that's part of it.
>> Yeah. That's up to the That's up to the

1319
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:49,119
business though because I guarantee you
that if a business downtown, their

1320
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:52,560
employees come to work, they're not
parking in front of their business,

1321
01:37:51,119 --> 01:37:55,520
right? They're going to go down and
leave that parking for customers and

1322
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:57,760
park in front of some other business or
or some other spot.

1323
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:02,000
» Some other business,
>> right? So, you know, it's something that

1324
01:37:59,679 --> 01:38:05,840
definitely needs attention and I know
that's been brought up with some of the

1325
01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:09,360
parking lot solutions, but again, yeah,
there's a lot of there's a lot of people

1326
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:12,880
that work downtown. They need parking.
They're parking in these areas.

1327
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:18,000
» I would be happy if you're looking for
more direction to recommend for now that

1328
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:23,119
to give this company a chance, we place
these sticks in the, you know, the

1329
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:27,360
high-profile no parking areas, right?
the intersections, those places to see

1330
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:32,800
how they work, to see what we capture,
to see how reliable it is, and then if

1331
01:38:30,639 --> 01:38:37,600
that seems to be okay, and then down the
road, whether it's 6 months or a year,

1332
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:39,840
we want to explore the two-hour parking,
probably not what the police department

1333
01:38:38,639 --> 01:38:43,600
wants to hear, but then we can look at
doing that. But at least this gives us a

1334
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:48,400
smaller snapshot or glimpse of what this
company can offer and what data we get

1335
01:38:46,239 --> 01:38:53,119
and how easy it is. cuz maybe if the
police department starts getting 25

1336
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:56,639
requests a day to write parking tickets,
you know, then we see what the need is

1337
01:38:55,040 --> 01:39:01,280
down the road. That's one thing. But
right now, we can see what a smaller

1338
01:38:58,480 --> 01:39:04,000
snapshot shows. And I Tanner stated
tonight in case you didn't questions for

1339
01:39:02,639 --> 01:39:07,600
the police department, too. So that's
why Tanner stick around a little extra.

1340
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:14,159
» Yeah, I almost would want want to hear
from him and maybe Paul, too, on fire

1341
01:39:10,719 --> 01:39:17,040
hydrants and if that's a problem
having access to those. We don't have

1342
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:21,223
problems.
>> Okay.

1343
01:39:17,679 --> 01:39:23,119
» We just take the window off the hole.
[laughter]

1344
01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:27,679
» No problem at all.
>> No problem.

1345
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:30,719
» No disrespect, but I'd rather hear from
AJ.

1346
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,800
» Tanner, if you have something to offer,
I'd like to hear. I'm sure you and AJ

1347
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:37,679
spoke about this.
>> Uh the only cliff note that AJ gave me

1348
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:40,639
is the ability to have certain license
plates entered in the system so that

1349
01:39:39,199 --> 01:39:43,600
this person does not get a ticket if
they violate the ordinance, such as the

1350
01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:46,960
people who pay for parking behind
jackpots in that lot.

1351
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:50,400
Outside anything from that, I would
probably agree this would be a thing for

1352
01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:54,029
HP to talk about you guys on
>> get him out of the ball. [laughter]

1353
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:59,119
» Get him out of the pool.
>> Yeah.

1354
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:02,000
» I don't know how anybody else thinks
about it, but if we're looking for a

1355
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:07,440
scope on this right now to narrow it
down, I would be in favor of the no

1356
01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:11,119
parking, fire hydrants, crosswalks,
corners, where people shouldn't be

1357
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:16,560
parking for any reason, employee or not,
just to see how the system works. and

1358
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:21,679
then address it or not address it later.
But

1359
01:40:19,199 --> 01:40:26,159
» yeah, and there were some
comments that were read back during

1360
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:31,840
public comment. Um, some of which were
some of the things that I said and they

1361
01:40:28,159 --> 01:40:37,360
were related to my opinion that I'm not
interested in exploring any paid parking

1362
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:40,639
in the village until after the bridge is
open. I don't want to deal with adding

1363
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:45,199
any stress to the business owners plates
with regard to any paid parking. This is

1364
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:48,880
a different conversation. This is
enforcing the parking rules that we

1365
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:53,199
already have. Now, if we have a broken
parking rule,

1366
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:58,960
that's my opinion. We need to address
the code. If the great majority is that

1367
01:40:56,159 --> 01:41:03,920
this shouldn't exist, then remove it.
Freeforall. No restrictions. Park as

1368
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:07,440
long as you want. I mean, that's the
alternative, right? I mean, if we don't

1369
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:13,040
have any parking restrictions because
the the great majority of the business

1370
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:17,360
owners in town don't want them, fine.
Remove them and let people park as long

1371
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:22,639
as they want in any spot they want
downtown. That's the because otherwise

1372
01:41:20,639 --> 01:41:30,719
why have the law in place if we're not
going to take reasonable no cost to us

1373
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:30,719
steps to enforce them.

1374
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:37,199
So, I would be willing to entertain
future meeting topics to discuss

1375
01:41:35,119 --> 01:41:40,520
amending village code to repeal our
parking restrictions.

1376
01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:49,520
» I see.
>> I think we'd have to take a more of a

1377
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:54,000
survey of businesses downtown. It would
be just a snapshot on social media.

1378
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:57,440
» Oh, that that'd be me going to talking
to everyone and finding out. area

1379
01:41:55,679 --> 01:42:00,480
because a lot of businesses do rely on
people coming in and coming out. Some

1380
01:41:59,119 --> 01:42:03,199
business rely on people staying for
hours,

1381
01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:04,719
» right? So, you're going to get a variety
of responses.

1382
01:42:04,159 --> 01:42:08,639
» I agree.
>> But we can't go off of social media or

1383
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:10,800
petitions signed by people that may or
may not be village residents or business

1384
01:42:10,159 --> 01:42:13,119
owners.
>> Yeah.

1385
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:16,560
» Right. Or unknown data.
>> Yep. I agree. It would be a town hall

1386
01:42:15,119 --> 01:42:21,080
style setting I would want to have for
something like that for sure. Yep.

1387
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:31,040
» Who's following Ron's suggestion of
placing them in the potential problem

1388
01:42:28,719 --> 01:42:35,119
areas. Would that
gather some of the data that we would

1389
01:42:33,199 --> 01:42:38,639
actually need
to decide

1390
01:42:37,119 --> 01:42:42,239
is this a problem?
>> Yeah. And that was kind of related to

1391
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:44,320
what he had talked about with the
because you did a records request,

1392
01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:48,960
right?
>> Yeah. I mean, yes, there was a minimal

1393
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:51,679
amount of citations, but then again, our
code is complaint driven anyway. So we

1394
01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:57,719
don't
>> there was 10 in two years there was 10

1395
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:57,719
snow events and five

1396
01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:04,719
» I can tell you there's been a lot more
violations because I've come in a few

1397
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:08,560
times and asked why the car on Cascade
wasn't ticketed after a plow event.

1398
01:43:06,719 --> 01:43:11,199
» There's been a ton and we haven't last
two years we haven't had police coverage

1399
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:15,040
a lot in the evenings either. Well, and
the other problem area that I'm aware of

1400
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:18,880
just because it's constant and it it's
more so just with walking across the

1401
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:23,360
street, but parking as well in front of
the wershed is treacherous.

1402
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:26,480
» Like there are all kinds of vehicles
parked in places that shouldn't be

1403
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:32,000
parked in front of that place.
>> In two years, there was 41 no overnight

1404
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:36,639
parking by citations, five
um

1405
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:39,920
no parking zone citations, and 10 snow
emergencies.

1406
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:43,920
And Tanner can probably answer this, but
I'm willing to bet those were basically

1407
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:47,280
written on nights there were snowfalls
because they had to, not because they

1408
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,560
had the staff could do it nightly
consistently.

1409
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:52,080
» Right.
>> The all night winter parking is your

1410
01:43:50,239 --> 01:43:56,719
standard two to six. The snow emergency
one is when we get more than two inches

1411
01:43:53,520 --> 01:44:00,159
of snow. The boys come out with plows.
>> We have a specific number. We did 17

1412
01:43:58,719 --> 01:44:05,040
winter parking tickets.
>> That would be snow emergency and just

1413
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:08,639
the general 2 to six or statue or nuts.
>> But main street everywhere. And I I

1414
01:44:07,199 --> 01:44:17,440
think I remember when we first brought
this up, I I thought about

1415
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:24,480
um doing the just the sticks, not these
large camera pieces. I don't even think

1416
01:44:21,119 --> 01:44:28,480
we we discussed we saw those. No, what
originally you you talked about continue

1417
01:44:26,239 --> 01:44:32,639
with the safety 6 conversation and then
in admin finance um

1418
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:36,400
» we'd been talking to him longer and we
wanted to see what possibly it might

1419
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:38,800
look like with parking enforcement
because AJ said that's been an issue

1420
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:42,639
that they haven't been able to enforce
it. So then admin finance recommended to

1421
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:45,920
the full board that we talk about
November meeting which we did and it was

1422
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:49,199
recommended to go forward for further
investigation what it might look like

1423
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:53,920
and that's where we are tonight for the
quick history on that. Yeah. And I I

1424
01:44:51,280 --> 01:45:01,920
remember talking about um that I like
safety sticks for the data first more

1425
01:44:58,239 --> 01:45:06,719
than any sort of enforcement so that we
can see and then the public can see is

1426
01:45:04,480 --> 01:45:10,960
this a problem, is this not? So, if we
had one and one on like one corner, one

1427
01:45:09,199 --> 01:45:17,040
on the other corner, just these sticks
and used it for data only,

1428
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:23,119
um I think that would give us a view and
then get rid of them or not

1429
01:45:21,119 --> 01:45:27,800
after we get the data because there's no
real data right now. That's substantial.

1430
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:37,600
And and that's something we do with with
um prospects is we're happy to do that.

1431
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:40,560
Put a couple sticks in, show you the
data,

1432
01:45:38,719 --> 01:45:44,960
» and if there's no data, we take them
out. And that's not

1433
01:45:43,679 --> 01:45:48,800
» that's [clears throat] a good comment.
>> Again, I wouldn't mind seeing sticks in

1434
01:45:46,480 --> 01:45:49,840
the prohibited hightra areas like we
talked about.

1435
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:54,000
» Yep.
>> For now, for a set period of time, in

1436
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:57,760
the meantime, that could give us time to
talk to the businesses and talk to

1437
01:45:55,440 --> 01:46:02,560
people downtown to see how they really
feel about it. And then from that point,

1438
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:06,159
we could either expand this to two-hour
parking or repeal the two-hour parking

1439
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:10,239
if that's consensus. But in the
meantime, I don't think it hurts to have

1440
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:16,239
the no parking areas covered. Fire
hydrants, crosswalks, corners, people

1441
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:20,880
park temporarily
>> curbs that are too close to an

1442
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:23,600
intersection.
>> That would not be a bad thing because

1443
01:46:22,239 --> 01:46:27,400
there's no reason for anybody to park
there, right?

1444
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:35,040
Yeah, I think
>> I think it bears it bears stating too

1445
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:38,639
that I know that one of the concerns
that a business owner brought to my

1446
01:46:36,639 --> 01:46:42,239
attention today was that there was a
there was concern that this would be a

1447
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:48,320
that this would be a Trojan horse for
paid parking. And I think that that's an

1448
01:46:46,159 --> 01:46:52,960
avenue, but it's not what this
conversation is about tonight. This

1449
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:56,480
conversation tonight is about something
that is separated from paid parking in

1450
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:59,920
the fact that, you know, like Ron had
said, this is a this is an ordinance

1451
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:03,920
that's been on the books that this the
the limited resources that we have have

1452
01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:09,199
not been able to enforce for a while.
And is this a solution in search of a

1453
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:12,159
problem that's not really there? I don't
know. But if we have a company that's

1454
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:16,880
willing to show us whether or not it is
and at no cost to us, I don't see any

1455
01:47:14,239 --> 01:47:22,239
reason why we would say no to that. Like
I I it just it doesn't make any sense.

1456
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:26,239
Like you don't you don't if you get an
opportunity to get data for free then

1457
01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:30,400
take the data and if it doesn't support
doing anything further then you get rid

1458
01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:35,080
of it and you're done. We've made
stupider decisions that cost us money.

1459
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:53,360
That's kind of an interaction.
>> Yeah, I don't think there's any sort of

1460
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:56,159
action or anything. I just think
>> I'm not willing to propose any.

1461
01:47:54,800 --> 01:48:00,080
» Yeah, this is just
>> and this is kind of, you know, it's

1462
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:03,119
unfortunately with with our monthly
meetings, it's really hard to have

1463
01:48:01,199 --> 01:48:06,080
discussions before it gets out really
gets out to the public because, you

1464
01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:08,080
know, you guys have to direction before
I can really give access to it,

1465
01:48:07,679 --> 01:48:10,960
» right?
>> But the information has to be made

1466
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:14,560
public so people are aware that we're
talking about it. Uh it's it's a very

1467
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:17,920
good thing, but it also doesn't give a
chance to us to really describe what

1468
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:20,000
we're planning on looking at doing here.
>> The information has to be accurate.

1469
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:23,679
» Yes.
>> Right. It has to be accurate. It has to

1470
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:27,679
be detailed. It can't I mean a lot of
the stuff I've heard in the last day and

1471
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:32,080
a half completely false, right?
Completely false information. I mean,

1472
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:35,440
and that spreads and people get upset
and that doesn't do any of us any good.

1473
01:48:34,239 --> 01:48:38,320
But we come to me like
>> what you just said is inaccurate because

1474
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:41,760
the data that was posted didn't happen
till this morning.

1475
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:45,440
» What data in particular? But whatever
you're in uh insinuating

1476
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:47,119
» just the fact that people were talking
about

1477
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:50,280
» this didn't start talking about it till
this morning.

1478
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:56,239
» When did when did how did this get out
like two days ago?

1479
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,600
» I don't know. It's been in the packet
since Friday,

1480
01:48:57,119 --> 01:48:58,320
» right?
>> Yeah.

1481
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:00,320
» So,
>> the social media event didn't happen

1482
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:01,920
until this.
>> No, it was in the pack. It's been out

1483
01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:05,040
since Friday.
>> Either way, misinformation does not

1484
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:09,199
help. And I'm glad we could set the
record straight like this, but

1485
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,199
unfortunately we have to deal with the
other parts

1486
01:49:09,679 --> 01:49:13,840
» because like Deon said, we live in a,
you know, digital world now where

1487
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:17,840
information gets out.
>> Since the information's been out since

1488
01:49:15,199 --> 01:49:21,679
Friday, um, I've had, uh, one business
owner call me, uh, two business owners

1489
01:49:19,679 --> 01:49:25,600
or one manager of a business and the
same business owner who called me, email

1490
01:49:23,199 --> 01:49:30,800
me, and zero board members have called
me or emailed me about this. So in terms

1491
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:35,560
of public interactions to me answering
my questions it's been br virtually

1492
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,560
zero.

1493
01:49:38,719 --> 01:49:44,239
» The business manager that got a hold of
you. Who was that?

1494
01:49:42,159 --> 01:49:47,639
» Uh Brand Brandon from I sent him an
email this morning.

1495
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:57,960
Anybody else have any opinions they want
to share on this topic?

1496
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:05,119
Okay, moving on.
>> Well, thank you for your time, Mike.

1497
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:09,600
» Yep. Thanks everyone. I appreciate it.
>> Thanks everybody.

1498
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:12,600
» Okay, 7B, Heritage Committee update
handout.

1499
01:50:20,239 --> 01:50:26,679
» Thank you.
any starting

1500
01:50:27,119 --> 01:50:33,719
want to know that we're not doing
nothing process

1501
01:50:34,480 --> 01:50:40,080
one if you answer
>> of course

1502
01:50:38,239 --> 01:50:44,000
» I love talking to you guys
>> thanks um so you can get our contact

1503
01:50:42,239 --> 01:50:48,639
information from Devon if you have
questions for us um and we're in a

1504
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:54,400
process of getting more information just
slowly moving things along

1505
01:50:51,040 --> 01:51:00,639
» Devin do we have anything in the CIP
set aside yet for wayfinding at Grist

1506
01:50:57,119 --> 01:51:05,840
Mill for the heritage committee to use?
>> Yes, we're um the amount for it will be

1507
01:51:03,679 --> 01:51:09,600
so minuscule that we'll just uh we can
administratively approve it. Um it's

1508
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:12,960
just a small small amount. It's we're
looking probably between $500 and $1,000

1509
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:18,480
for signage.
>> Okay.

1510
01:51:15,199 --> 01:51:22,080
And are they being invited to
the meetings at this point for the

1511
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:25,520
construction?
Uh they're not involved in construction

1512
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:30,000
means. No, but Drew today sent them a
list of uh potential um podiums that the

1513
01:51:29,119 --> 01:51:32,560
information would be on.
>> And we're getting to the point now with

1514
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:36,000
stairs that are going to get
constructed. We're going to start

1515
01:51:34,159 --> 01:51:41,599
finding an opportunity to start talking
about the finalization.

1516
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:44,239
Landscaping, greenery, and signage is
going to be some of the last stuff that

1517
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:47,440
gets talked about, but you don't want to
miss it because all of a sudden now

1518
01:51:45,599 --> 01:51:50,560
you've got a contractor sealing up their
project and saying, "All right, let's

1519
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:53,599
cut the ribbon." and people have been
left out. So,

1520
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:58,719
» I know this is a signage topic, but I
saw a few logos in there and I thought

1521
01:51:55,920 --> 01:52:03,280
logos was a whole separate topic. Logos
for this this in the signage.

1522
01:52:01,679 --> 01:52:07,280
» Oh,
later it

1523
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:10,639
» the bike like
>> some of that signage was existing

1524
01:52:08,719 --> 01:52:15,040
signage that's just moving.
>> Okay. I was trying to figure out what

1525
01:52:12,639 --> 01:52:19,360
was new, what was
being executed as part of Gris Mill and

1526
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:24,560
maybe what was new. Um Brad, before we
get any further, um this is that no

1527
01:52:22,159 --> 01:52:30,880
action item. I would like to revisit the
storm water utility open again. Motion

1528
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:34,320
for that. Uh there's one item that was
was missed that I just um Carrie alerted

1529
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:39,520
me to
>> which is um a storm water utility bill

1530
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:43,280
will or will not be established for
those properties with with a water

1531
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:47,280
utility bill. Do we want to bill people
that are not receiving utility bill? And

1532
01:52:45,199 --> 01:52:50,000
that warrants it to be reopened again to
make that decision because that affects

1533
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:55,199
how we approve the ordinance.
>> Was it written as the ordinance was now?

1534
01:52:52,320 --> 01:53:01,800
» Um the the ordinance the packet was the
one that said um will not be build.

1535
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:07,520
» Oh, it does.
>> Hopefully.

1536
01:53:05,119 --> 01:53:10,560
» Oh, got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got
it.

1537
01:53:08,719 --> 01:53:13,440
» So, I I would like to resend that motion
and go back and revisit.

1538
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:17,199
» So, yeah. All right. So, all right.
Robert's rules. Um, can we finish this

1539
01:53:16,159 --> 01:53:20,400
point before we move on?
>> I just I just want to blow fresh in my

1540
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:23,119
mind.
>> Yeah, we're going to get to that before

1541
01:53:21,440 --> 01:53:27,840
we get to item eight. Then we'll do it
if we do it within the same meeting, we

1542
01:53:24,639 --> 01:53:33,360
can have a motion to reconsider and it
will be pulled back and then we can

1543
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:36,560
re discuss the topic. So, the motion to
reconsider can be done during the same

1544
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:43,040
meeting. It just has to happen at the
end of the agenda. Okay. Um All right.

1545
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:46,480
Uh, anything else on the heritage
committee? No, they've been doing a

1546
01:53:44,639 --> 01:53:49,920
great job. I've I've attended stopped in
a few of the meetings and talked to

1547
01:53:47,599 --> 01:53:55,280
them. Uh they're really enjoying
learning about the history um from as

1548
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:57,840
far back as spoken word to now. So,
they'll do a thorough job of getting the

1549
01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:01,840
whole history.
>> It's a great update. Thank you.

1550
01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:05,239
» Yeah. Been looking for something like
this. Thank you.

1551
01:54:13,119 --> 01:54:17,840
Yeah,
>> we have like we really and we've been

1552
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:21,920
reaching out to different people in the
community to try to get input from as

1553
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:29,280
many different angles as we can. We were
at the community fair. Um

1554
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:32,320
anyway, um so we'll we'll keep folks
posted when we're going to have those

1555
01:54:30,639 --> 01:54:35,920
sessions and maybe have some input from
y'all of like avenues to, you know, put

1556
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:39,544
that out to make sure people know what's
happening and catch you up. But having

1557
01:54:37,679 --> 01:54:42,320
the parameters for the song, you
[laughter] really need that.

1558
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:46,639
» Yeah. Thank you.
>> Like 10 words is different than a

1559
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:51,679
thousand is different.
>> How many do you need?

1560
01:54:49,679 --> 01:54:56,400
» We could probably write a whole book. So
well, and Kim mentioned that there's a

1561
01:54:54,080 --> 01:55:01,040
long ordinance about signs. So
>> yeah, I would consider a QR code on

1562
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:05,880
whatever signage you have to take you to
a site. Yes. Yeah.

1563
01:55:06,159 --> 01:55:17,440
» Okay. Uh 7 CMS MSA discussion and
adoption of our CIP per resolution

1564
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:22,960
20 2601. We just did that.
>> What

1565
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:26,760
» versus ordinate? Oh jeez.
I was worried about that too. Brad

1566
01:55:24,739 --> 01:55:26,760
[laughter]

1567
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:35,520
» carries on it.
>> But good evening everybody. Um I'm here

1568
01:55:33,199 --> 01:55:41,199
tonight to talk about the updated CIP
once again. Um the board had discussion

1569
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:46,000
last month and um I had a meeting with
uh village staff. Um I just want to

1570
01:55:43,599 --> 01:55:52,159
basically go over the talking points of
what we have done um to update the CIP.

1571
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:56,639
Um Devin, you could rest on page 133, I
believe. That would be fine. But

1572
01:55:53,840 --> 01:56:00,960
» yeah, one way to go. Um Mike uh he had a
a comment just about the public works

1573
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:04,960
equipment table and that was a clerical
revision and that's since been updated

1574
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:09,840
with the right dates at least and Todd
and I said sat down looked at it. Um

1575
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:14,400
Neil he had a comment that he wanted to
see a Third Avenue reconstruction

1576
01:56:11,599 --> 01:56:19,840
project um or at least a trail project
and uh we sat down and created a a

1577
01:56:17,599 --> 01:56:28,000
illustrative project. So, um outside of
the 5-year plan to reconstruct, um Third

1578
01:56:24,159 --> 01:56:33,360
Avenue from Summit Street to County
Highway M. And this reconstruction

1579
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:38,880
project will widen the road um to
accommodate a uh 6 to 8 foot bike lane.

1580
01:56:36,719 --> 01:56:42,880
Um this bike lane will be also
pedestrian surface, not just for bikers.

1581
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:47,119
» Yeah, I want to say that we we decided
against a curb and gutter lift because

1582
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:51,520
of the cost. Um there's no way we could
fit a full reconstruct into a CIP at

1583
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:55,199
that cost if you lift it and do a 8 to
12 foot wide sidewalk on a curb. That

1584
01:56:53,679 --> 01:56:58,159
would drastically alter the size of the
road which require extensive

1585
01:56:56,639 --> 01:57:03,520
reconstruction.
>> Yep. Very good, Devon. Also, there is

1586
01:57:00,639 --> 01:57:07,119
minimal storm sewer on the road. Um so
just improving the road with curb and

1587
01:57:05,199 --> 01:57:11,360
gutter requires storm sewer and then
requires outfalls and there's wetlands

1588
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:17,280
adjacent to the road. So, um, Devon's
right on. It just increases the cost

1589
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:22,719
and, um, so, um, I slate that as MSID
project that could occur after, uh,

1590
01:57:20,159 --> 01:57:27,440
River Street phase 2. Um, so be out
there in the future, but the costs that

1591
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:34,719
I saw fit well with the MSID, um,
application. So, um, that made sense. Um

1592
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:42,239
then uh we can talk a little bit about
some um park projects or some basically

1593
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:46,719
uh replplatting or selling of parkland.
Um there was some discussion about you

1594
01:57:44,639 --> 01:57:51,599
know Smith Park, Eric Park, River Street
Park and uh Todd has those parks on his

1595
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:57,599
radar to have discussion at a public
works meeting um of how we'd like to

1596
01:57:55,199 --> 01:58:03,199
move with them. But basically taking
underutilized park land instead of uh

1597
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:07,199
redeveloping it, putting um new
playground equipment in there. Um

1598
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:13,360
looking at a land sale to help fund
improvements um such as um an Oki Park

1599
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:18,320
pickle ball court. Um so you'll I'll
transition to that topic. You'll see

1600
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:24,639
that there's a um illustrative park
project for Oki Park pickle ball courts.

1601
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:30,719
And the reason it's illustrative is um
we're hoping to move it into the the

1602
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:35,440
five-year CIP but not use CIP funds to
pay for for the pickle ball court. So

1603
01:58:33,199 --> 01:58:42,480
try to find another funding source, for
example, a land sale or other option

1604
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:47,040
that uh we come up with. But um that was
I believe it was Brad's comment um about

1605
01:58:44,639 --> 01:58:51,920
where's the pickle ball course going. Um
that's where that's where uh we landed

1606
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:58,400
on. Um Todd's continuing the scope on
there. Um but um I I did a preliminary

1607
01:58:55,360 --> 01:59:05,920
scope um with three courts and uh the
cost is uh is in the the park section

1608
01:59:03,119 --> 01:59:11,440
» 937.
>> There was discussion from Mike um to

1609
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:18,080
remove Cascade Falls phase 2 um project.
Um we had internal conversations. Um we

1610
01:59:15,119 --> 01:59:24,400
decided to leave that uh park in there.
Um we are not set on the timeline um but

1611
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:29,599
that we believe is the next priority
project to use stewardship funding on.

1612
01:59:26,639 --> 01:59:35,280
Um the reason why it's still in there is
because um there's a constant

1613
01:59:31,679 --> 01:59:40,400
maintenance uh demand um on the public
works um team down there. Um when the

1614
01:59:38,239 --> 01:59:45,679
park floods the boardwalks heave, the
boardwalks, you know, move and um it's

1615
01:59:43,199 --> 01:59:51,360
very labor intensive to have people go
down there and work on it. So, um we

1616
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:58,000
identify that as a priority to decrease
um the manh hours down there. Um improve

1617
01:59:55,599 --> 02:00:04,800
the boardwalks for ADA and then there's
also some uh land acquisition or

1618
02:00:01,599 --> 02:00:08,480
easement issues down there. So, um going
to continue down that route. Um at least

1619
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:14,400
that's what our our staff is
recommending here um tonight.

1620
02:00:11,679 --> 02:00:20,800
So, I wouldn't click there, but those
are our talking points. Um, I appreciate

1621
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:24,880
the board's feedback last meeting. Um, I
want to make sure they're happy with

1622
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:29,440
this plan. Um, the projects in these
seven sections. Um, you know, I I

1623
02:00:27,599 --> 02:00:34,719
completely understand, you know, how
difficult this task is and there can be

1624
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:38,880
unlimited amounts of projects that can
go into this plan. Um, you know, I've

1625
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:44,239
been a part of CIP plans that, you know,
went through seven to eight revisions of

1626
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:49,280
the plan. So, um, I'll leave it there.
I'll entertain any discussion, but

1627
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:51,920
tonight I'm looking for um motion to
approve the resolutions.

1628
02:00:50,719 --> 02:00:55,280
» And keep in mind really what you're
approving is just the two-year scope. Uh

1629
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:57,920
in two years, we'll go through this
whole thing again and shift things

1630
02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:02,400
around again.
>> Um the idea for three, four, five or

1631
02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:07,040
what we'd like to see, but we all know
emergencies happen. Uh priorities change

1632
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:11,119
over the course of a few years, too. Um,
so even though if this might not see

1633
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:15,599
where you want it to be, uh, keep in
mind that the current borrowing measure

1634
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:19,920
is only for the two-year period and in
two years we'll be rehashed in all this

1635
02:01:17,599 --> 02:01:26,040
conversation again.
>> You caught all the things that I brought

1636
02:01:21,599 --> 02:01:26,040
up last month. So, I'm good.

1637
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:38,719
» Anybody else have anything that they
want to see change?

1638
02:01:37,280 --> 02:01:46,080
Otherwise, I'll entertain a motion to
adopt this resolution 2601.

1639
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:54,000
» I'll make a motion to adopt resolution
2601 to adopt our capital improvement

1640
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:59,599
plan 2026 2028.
>> 2627,

1641
02:01:56,480 --> 02:02:04,840
right? Yeah. Two years.
>> Yeah. Oh, okay.

1642
02:02:06,159 --> 02:02:13,760
I'll second that. Motion by myself and a
sec or by Arvid and a second by myself.

1643
02:02:12,159 --> 02:02:18,560
All those in favor say I.
>> I. Post say no.

1644
02:02:15,599 --> 02:02:22,159
» Okay. 7C2 Cascade Falls Trail bike
racks.

1645
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:28,880
» Yep. I'll continue. Uh today I am
presenting a quote from our um

1646
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:34,480
furnishing suppliers. So on Cascade
Falls Park um we're using Thomas

1647
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:40,239
Steelely furnishings. typical supplies
out of Wisconsin here. Um, well, I

1648
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:45,280
reached out to one of their, you could
say sister companies companies or they

1649
02:02:42,239 --> 02:02:50,320
own this company from Grey Manufacturing
or Mad Racks. They create custom um,

1650
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:55,520
bike racks. So, um, through the design
process, it was identified that, um, the

1651
02:02:52,960 --> 02:03:02,000
Main Street Association has fund of
$1,500 to buy custom bike racks. So

1652
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:07,679
Wyatt and I worked together um and I
supported um Wyatt basically at at no

1653
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:15,440
cost to to design these four bike racks
to um get his input on them and then

1654
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:22,880
reach out to the supplier to to get a
quote. Um so um yeah, the main street

1655
02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:28,400
director um he had
wrapped up into this. Um they're going

1656
02:03:25,679 --> 02:03:36,000
to help share the cost of this. The
reason why these custom supplies are not

1657
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:41,440
in the original bid package is that if
that would be the case, MSA would charge

1658
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:46,320
design fees for it and the general
contractor would design or charge markup

1659
02:03:44,639 --> 02:03:49,840
fees for it. Since they're custom
furnishings, he's anticipating there's

1660
02:03:48,239 --> 02:03:54,719
going to be lots of back and forth on
it. So, the good contractor would mark

1661
02:03:52,159 --> 02:04:00,719
it up high and then we got to pay the
general price to begin with. So, instead

1662
02:03:57,040 --> 02:04:07,880
of um the quote, which I verified is
still um valid today, the quote of

1663
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:07,880
$3,500 or 347,9.77

1664
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:16,320
to be exact, um I would expect a quote
of of $20,000 for these four bike racks

1665
02:04:14,239 --> 02:04:23,280
if they were in the original bid packet.
So this is a process um that um I took

1666
02:04:20,639 --> 02:04:28,080
to decrease the cost, make it cost
effective um try to meet the main

1667
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:32,800
street's budget, but um we exceeded it
um by double here. So the village would

1668
02:04:30,239 --> 02:04:36,960
have some cost here. Um and then this
process would be a similar process that

1669
02:04:34,639 --> 02:04:41,679
I would be involved in with the heritage
committees sign. So, um, just a little

1670
02:04:40,719 --> 02:04:45,040
point there
>> did a really good job of answering a

1671
02:04:43,119 --> 02:04:48,960
question I hadn't asked yet, which is,
did we have any money in our original

1672
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:52,880
bid for this, which you said no, it
seems like the bid or Main Street or

1673
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:56,080
whoever has plenty of money. I'm not in
favor of the village paying for any of

1674
02:04:54,239 --> 02:04:59,280
this. If if some other entity downtown
wants it, they can pay for it.

1675
02:04:57,599 --> 02:05:02,960
» Reed,
you have a $400,000 budget shortfall.

1676
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:05,520
I'm not interested in putting bike racks
in. I

1677
02:05:03,679 --> 02:05:08,639
» I made a statement, I think, at the last
meeting or one before. I'm not in favor

1678
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:11,440
of any more expenditures on
>> parks

1679
02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:14,639
consider
>> other than what's already in the

1680
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:19,360
» CIP there. I mean, I'm even going to
have a hard time saying I want to match

1681
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:22,080
grant money because I don't know that we
have any money to match with,

1682
02:05:20,639 --> 02:05:27,679
» right?
>> There is CIP dollars for um these

1683
02:05:24,639 --> 02:05:32,239
supplies. Um but I really leave the
budget conversation for Devon or any

1684
02:05:30,159 --> 02:05:35,800
comment. But I understand your point,
Mike. Very good.

1685
02:05:35,920 --> 02:05:42,800
there CIP
dollars that would help cover this cost.

1686
02:05:40,639 --> 02:05:46,639
» Uh we still we still have existing funds
from uh the previous borrow. Not a whole

1687
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:50,719
lot, but still have some existing funds
from the previous CIP borrow.

1688
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:56,159
» I see the value in this bike rack, but I
also agree with you two.

1689
02:05:53,599 --> 02:05:59,679
» I' I'd rather put this into wayfinding
into signage

1690
02:05:57,679 --> 02:06:02,320
» some other overage that we don't even
>> Yeah. That we don't even know about.

1691
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:08,000
Right.
>> I agree. Drew, you said you had

1692
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:12,480
conversation with Wyatt about the bid
paying for this.

1693
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:16,800
» They have a fund of $1,500 slated for
this, and that's how basically he

1694
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:21,679
directed me to go down this endeavor.
Um, I agreed to at no cost to try to

1695
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:26,719
help him create the design and then get
a supplies and bring it to the board.

1696
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:33,040
So, it was a lengthy process partially
because of the suppliers timeline and

1697
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:35,840
wise timeline and everything. Think so.
>> I've heard rumor that there's a metal

1698
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:40,560
supplier south of town that has plenty
of capacity in metal that he's would

1699
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:46,639
love to have spent on stairs.
>> I'm sad to hear that. Who's that? The

1700
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:48,480
BPS or something. Oh,
>> maybe have I go talk to him?

1701
02:06:48,159 --> 02:06:52,400
» Yeah.
>> Probably get some free bike rides

1702
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:54,960
» and then he can pay you that 1,500
bucks.

1703
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:58,639
» Yeah, like I'd ask for it, Mike.
>> I think you should.

1704
02:06:57,679 --> 02:07:04,719
» I'll ask for you.
>> It's nothing. [laughter] Anybody

1705
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:07,880
looking to propose some board action on
this item?

1706
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:16,560
Room seems pretty cold. All right,
moving on. 7D. Discussion to amend the

1707
02:07:14,639 --> 02:07:22,480
village code to change the Schillberg
parks like schedule.

1708
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:26,880
» Uh yeah, so we've been uh we've fielded
a few comments the past year about the

1709
02:07:24,719 --> 02:07:30,400
hours of Schillberg Park and the light
schedule that it's currently on. Uh

1710
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:34,239
we've asked some people have asked us to
extend the current hours that the lights

1711
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:39,920
are on. Our current our current village
code only allows the park to be open uh

1712
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:47,119
from from dusk to dawn basically a few
minutes here or there. Um our lights are

1713
02:07:43,119 --> 02:07:50,079
currently on timers and um you know we
have people that are walking their dogs

1714
02:07:48,239 --> 02:07:52,880
at 5:00 am to 11 o'clock at night that
want to make sure they're safe and

1715
02:07:51,119 --> 02:07:56,000
walking in the park. I totally
understand that. Back to our

1716
02:07:54,159 --> 02:08:00,400
conversation with parking. That means
the park would be open outside of

1717
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:04,159
village ordinance. Um so uh tonight the
discussion would be looking for

1718
02:08:01,840 --> 02:08:08,000
direction to set Shelberg Park outside
of the ordinance hours and setting uh

1719
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:12,480
their own rate their own hours for
Shelberg Park if this is something we

1720
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:16,880
want to proceed with or we direct staff
um to keep the license that currently

1721
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:20,079
are on. And Todd is kind of he's been
answering a lot of the emails of people

1722
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:24,400
who have been asking so he can provide
more insight too.

1723
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:29,119
Yeah, as it states many requests but
from only the same few handful of

1724
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:35,199
residents requesting these additional
hours. Um kind of a weird scenario, you

1725
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:40,560
know, grant driven opportunity to put in
this wonderful pathway through village

1726
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:45,599
property. It's dark to the south, it's
dark to the north, but we do have these

1727
02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:49,760
lights. Um, of course, we do recognize
being here all hours of the day and

1728
02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:54,719
night. where we see it being mostly
utilized is before and after school for

1729
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:58,560
kids to get there. So, that's the
current program we've been running.

1730
02:08:56,079 --> 02:09:04,239
Really haven't entertained doing uh
these longer uh schedules, but would

1731
02:09:02,239 --> 02:09:07,920
certainly like some direction is to see
if we'd like them on any longer.

1732
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:12,239
» Do you foresee any complaints that the
lights are on from say 5:00 a.m. to 10

1733
02:09:10,079 --> 02:09:15,199
p.m. or 11:00 p.m. from people in the
area that the lights are on?

1734
02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:19,679
» I I'm not sure. leading up to the
industrial park in Education Avenue. No

1735
02:09:17,119 --> 02:09:22,800
residential, no resident's
complaining given the location of the

1736
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:25,840
park. I mean, it's it's it's lit well.
It's a beautiful pathway. I would be

1737
02:09:24,239 --> 02:09:30,159
opposed to extending the hours.
>> Yeah, it's a procedural thing. So, we

1738
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:35,679
would have to set we would have to
actually add to our code setting aside

1739
02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:40,239
Schillberg's trail outside of the park
system because the parks are called out

1740
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:44,239
to be open from what is it a half an
hour before sunrise to a half an hour

1741
02:09:42,159 --> 02:09:47,440
after sunset. Is that what it says?
It'll just be a sentence you add on that

1742
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:50,639
you know except for Schillberg they're
open from

1743
02:09:48,159 --> 02:09:53,920
» it would say Schillberg's trail
Schillberg's lighting schedule C

1744
02:09:52,239 --> 02:09:57,520
appendix whatever and then we can
>> I want to ask it going a little

1745
02:09:55,840 --> 02:10:02,159
different direction on this we've got a
skate park or yeah skate park and a

1746
02:09:59,599 --> 02:10:05,920
skating rink both of those I think
there's no reason we can't use them

1747
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:09,040
after dark um especially ice skating.
>> I don't think either one is illuminated

1748
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:10,239
are they? Oh, the ice rink is the skatep
park is not

1749
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:13,040
» okay,
>> which I would have thought it should

1750
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:20,079
have been and maybe it should be
someday. Um cuz it is getting a lot of

1751
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:23,760
use and it I'm all for changing the
Shelberg thing, but I feel like we ought

1752
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:25,920
to maybe incorporate some other things
too.

1753
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:28,480
» Yeah. And I will say if we do good
pickle ball in courts, no, they would

1754
02:10:27,679 --> 02:10:32,000
want to go
>> um I would recommend not putting lights

1755
02:10:30,079 --> 02:10:35,440
on because they will use them past past
the time limit. uh pickle ball courts

1756
02:10:34,079 --> 02:10:38,719
have been but that's no longer here or
there on the agenda but just a heads up

1757
02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:42,480
changing other things does have other
circumstances I think even a pickle bar

1758
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:44,800
court people use it after hours you get
a lot of

1759
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:47,760
» you know industrial parks got second and
third shifters

1760
02:10:46,159 --> 02:10:51,119
» the big driver behind this is the
morning and evening walkers I think

1761
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:55,280
that's the they're out walking dogs and
they want a little bit more safety to be

1762
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:59,520
able to go out before the sun is up and
you know six months of the year this

1763
02:10:57,280 --> 02:11:04,079
isn't as big of a concern or three four
months a year because the sun is coming

1764
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:07,920
up as early as 5:00,
but during the winter months when we get

1765
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:11,599
some warm weather, that's where it
becomes an issue. So, I mean, I'm

1766
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:15,840
thinking we would need to
>> have a lighting ordinance

1767
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:17,679
recommendation, some engineering.
>> No,

1768
02:11:16,239 --> 02:11:22,960
» no, that's for commercial.
>> That's for industrial.

1769
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:26,480
» Hey, did it have to be just there?
>> Because that that's what we discussed

1770
02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:30,320
was the industrial code part of that.
>> Yeah. Um

1771
02:11:28,239 --> 02:11:34,159
I' I'd like to hear some uh that there's
other avenues there. I think we could

1772
02:11:32,079 --> 02:11:36,960
adjust
we can incorporate one lighting

1773
02:11:35,679 --> 02:11:41,599
ordinance maybe.
>> I know that Shbert Park is the the

1774
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:44,239
memorandum tonight, but I agree that
there is going to have to be a larger

1775
02:11:43,119 --> 02:11:48,480
broader
>> subject. This is a two-step process.

1776
02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:52,719
There'd be a board resolution tonight to
operate outside of the park schedule.

1777
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:59,280
That would satisfy
our behavior if we do lighting outside

1778
02:11:55,920 --> 02:12:05,679
of the park's posted hours. But then the
longer the second step is to amend the

1779
02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:09,760
village code setting aside whatever
defined park lighting that we want. And

1780
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:14,000
it could be
>> park lighting. you know, parks are open

1781
02:12:12,159 --> 02:12:18,480
from this time to this time with the
exception of park lighting schedules

1782
02:12:16,159 --> 02:12:22,719
referenced in appendix B or whatever.
And then in appendix B, we can put

1783
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:26,560
Schilbert Trail, we can put skate park
if it ever gets illuminated. We can put,

1784
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:29,679
you know, whatever. We just list them
right there and then we don't have to

1785
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:32,920
worry about amending our code more than
one.

1786
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:32,920
» Exactly

1787
02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:41,599
six.
>> I say we wait. I don't know that I want

1788
02:12:37,599 --> 02:12:41,599
to make a change for six people in town.

1789
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:49,440
I think one of the the what's going to
open a broader subject when it comes to

1790
02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:52,960
parks and paths and lights and future
things too is uh the overall cost of

1791
02:12:51,440 --> 02:12:58,239
these things. We have millions of
dollars in infrastructure just in the

1792
02:12:54,159 --> 02:13:02,320
downtown alone. We own 129
municipal own street lights.

1793
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:08,079
I think the budget within the last two
years has grown from about 5 to$10,000.

1794
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:14,000
We spend over 25,000 just on street
light electricity. So when we do

1795
02:13:12,079 --> 02:13:17,520
move forward with a potential decision
and growth and putting more

1796
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:22,320
infrastructure in, we have to look hard
at what the overall cost is going to be

1797
02:13:19,760 --> 02:13:27,280
too because right now we're having a
hard time supporting that

1798
02:13:25,599 --> 02:13:32,079
that $10,000 annual.
>> Sure. You're getting 70,000 hours out of

1799
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:35,199
a moving air than we are, you know, five
or 10. And the energy consumption is a

1800
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:37,840
lot less. So whatever you've had in the
numbers in the past hopefully are going

1801
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:42,719
adding more
>> energy consumption is low

1802
02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:45,440
» maintenance is higher unfortunately from
what we're seeing right now seven eight

1803
02:13:44,639 --> 02:13:50,400
years
>> you got the people coming on board too I

1804
02:13:48,159 --> 02:13:53,360
maybe let them tackle this topic for
those six people and maybe that

1805
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:56,400
» yeah I think the bigger and then one of
the things that I'd like to see then

1806
02:13:54,800 --> 02:14:01,679
just for my own knowledge
>> tell me how much it's going to cost to

1807
02:13:57,599 --> 02:14:05,840
run the lights for six extra hours a day
>> that will be low and I will be easily

1808
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:08,639
easily be ble to get you uh that number
unfortunately

1809
02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:11,679
» cuz that's I mean other than the
programming that's the only additional

1810
02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:14,880
expense right the time that you spend
programming and then the electricity

1811
02:14:13,280 --> 02:14:18,320
used in the life other than the life of
the bulbs I guess

1812
02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:20,639
» yes the life is going to play a role in
the maintenance

1813
02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:25,360
» so factor that in
>> I will advertise the life it's going to

1814
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:29,679
be a small number there's other
non-tangible values

1815
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:33,440
» well that's that's what I'm hoping to
arrive at is that the number is small

1816
02:14:31,199 --> 02:14:36,800
enough that it didn't even need to rise
to the level of it being a board

1817
02:14:34,880 --> 02:14:40,239
discussion other than the fact that it's
codified in our village code.

1818
02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:41,760
» If it wasn't if it wasn't village code
would not be here.

1819
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:45,440
» It would already be done. That's the
thing. I think I think it's a beautiful

1820
02:14:43,119 --> 02:14:48,480
walkway and it's underutilized
because it's not lit.

1821
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:51,920
» Yeah. And I and I think I would make the
motion right now and we could decide on

1822
02:14:50,159 --> 02:14:56,719
the hours but that
>> that Schillberg be exempt from the other

1823
02:14:53,920 --> 02:15:00,719
park hours for light for open to close.
>> It would have to be a board resolution

1824
02:14:58,159 --> 02:15:03,679
that would then create a need to change
code later.

1825
02:15:01,360 --> 02:15:06,639
» Let's make it happen.
I would support it if you if

1826
02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:13,040
» I make that motion. Thank you. I have a
board resolution to exclude Shielbergs

1827
02:15:10,079 --> 02:15:15,520
from the regular park schedule.
>> Second.

1828
02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:21,040
» All right. We have a motion by Ron and a
second by Nicole. Can we get a better

1829
02:15:19,360 --> 02:15:24,040
description of what this motion actually
is?

1830
02:15:25,368 --> 02:15:30,520
[laughter] I'll let Carrie type for a
few minutes. Yeah.

1831
02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:41,743
Such code number what number would be
>> yes reference.

1832
02:15:41,088 --> 02:15:43,763
[clears throat]
[laughter]

1833
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:54,599
» Thank you. Discussion on the motion.
>> I'm flabbergasted. We're making code

1834
02:15:50,719 --> 02:15:54,599
changes for six people.

1835
02:16:02,560 --> 02:16:09,760
Yeah, I just
really don't know how many people would

1836
02:16:08,079 --> 02:16:12,760
use it if there there were lights,
>> right?

1837
02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:21,840
» Any other discussion on the motion? All
those in favor say I.

1838
02:16:21,199 --> 02:16:27,040
» I.
>> Post say no.

1839
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:30,719
I don't know what Van's vote is, but
okay.

1840
02:16:27,920 --> 02:16:34,160
» I think it would matter.
>> Matters in terms of the record.

1841
02:16:32,319 --> 02:16:36,319
» Yeah. Well, he hasn't voted on anything
else yet

1842
02:16:34,639 --> 02:16:38,719
» that we know of.
>> Are you going to be able to get

1843
02:16:37,359 --> 02:16:42,399
information from him?
>> We can.

1844
02:16:39,280 --> 02:16:43,840
» We should just do a thumbs up or a thumb
>> or something. I mean, I know that we're

1845
02:16:43,359 --> 02:16:46,479
already
>> at this point. We just exclude him from

1846
02:16:45,120 --> 02:16:49,760
the vot. We've only Yeah, we've only
published a five member board for

1847
02:16:48,319 --> 02:16:52,319
tonight, but I would like to know what
his were

1848
02:16:51,439 --> 02:16:56,960
» if it's [clears throat] even something
we could append in the minutes later.

1849
02:16:54,880 --> 02:17:03,519
» Motion carries.
All right. Uh seven,

1850
02:17:00,960 --> 02:17:05,359
what is it? Where are we on now? E
>> Y

1851
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:11,519
» Department of Public Works half ton
truck CIP purchase.

1852
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:17,120
» Yes. For 2026 27 CIP can improve budget
at P placement of public works half ton

1853
02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:23,439
truck. Um, outside of this state bid, I
did procure another uh state bid

1854
02:17:19,439 --> 02:17:29,120
locally. Uh, that came uh $7,000 over.
Truck wasn't quite apple to apples, but

1855
02:17:25,359 --> 02:17:33,200
we're close. Um, we have a truck
potentially available to us that hasn't

1856
02:17:30,639 --> 02:17:37,679
quite hit the ground uh from Dodge of
Burnsville. So,

1857
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:42,639
I would be happy to say that we'd like
to introduce the first hybrid vehicle uh

1858
02:17:40,719 --> 02:17:47,519
municipality.
Um,

1859
02:17:44,639 --> 02:17:52,000
again, we have not reviewed this truck
in its completeness other than the

1860
02:17:49,439 --> 02:17:56,880
provided documents that I've showed you.
We would do that, of course, before

1861
02:17:54,000 --> 02:18:02,240
getting a PO for the purchase of the
truck

1862
02:17:59,200 --> 02:18:03,920
» truck while you're charging or is it
selfcharging?

1863
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:08,240
» Selfcharging.
>> Okay. Hybrid versus

1864
02:18:06,960 --> 02:18:12,399
Well, be a plugin.
>> I'm not even opposed to a full electric

1865
02:18:09,679 --> 02:18:16,559
at some point. Um to my comment from
before,

1866
02:18:13,920 --> 02:18:22,800
just as with the the the
uh not the cameras, the Motorola radios,

1867
02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:24,160
we found out that the state bid wasn't
the best solution.

1868
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:30,000
» Yeah.
>> And now we did look at two state bids.

1869
02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:35,599
» I do two state bids. I'm very fortunate
um to be working somehow Dodge of

1870
02:18:32,800 --> 02:18:41,359
Burnsville. uh they have this excellent
commercial fleet um manager that's able

1871
02:18:39,359 --> 02:18:45,840
to get me regional and and state
discounts and then also looks internally

1872
02:18:43,519 --> 02:18:49,679
for something even greater. So I could
tell you honestly that I could probably

1873
02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:53,200
get a a a great deal on a big horn with
heated seats and all kind of stuff

1874
02:18:51,695 --> 02:18:58,000
[laughter] I really could that would
come well under the RCIP number but this

1875
02:18:56,319 --> 02:19:02,080
fits the bill for us. I think it's a
tremendous deal. I think it's a great

1876
02:18:59,840 --> 02:19:05,760
price and I'm I'm shooting the messenger
today just because it's the message is

1877
02:19:04,160 --> 02:19:09,120
for all the departments.
>> You know, we don't need to use the state

1878
02:19:07,439 --> 02:19:12,319
contract. I don't know that it's a cheap
answer.

1879
02:19:10,160 --> 02:19:20,000
» 40 grand seems cheap for a truck.
>> I'm not a Dodge guy. Um,

1880
02:19:16,960 --> 02:19:24,639
we've tried the rest. I mean another
thing too uh just

1881
02:19:22,160 --> 02:19:31,359
a little more background 2024 Ram 3500
we purchased also from Ram of Burnsville

1882
02:19:27,519 --> 02:19:36,960
uh regional NAFTA rates state bid and we
ended up going with their price which

1883
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:42,000
was lower than both of them in 2024. So
in this scenario the state just happens

1884
02:19:38,479 --> 02:19:48,720
to be the lowest. What's the FWP as
opposed to the MSRP

1885
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:54,880
on the price confirmation?
I was just a little confused by it

1886
02:19:50,160 --> 02:20:00,080
because it's it's lower. Um
it's so the MSRP is uh 49 and that's

1887
02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:05,680
what the state discount is going off of
and it's 40,700

1888
02:20:02,640 --> 02:20:10,560
and then there's the FWP
and that's 479.

1889
02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:12,720
» That's a good question I can certainly
ask.

1890
02:20:11,280 --> 02:20:19,040
» Yeah. Like why aren't we going off of
that one? It's another two grand off.

1891
02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:21,120
Well roughly
two grand off. No,

1892
02:20:20,720 --> 02:20:24,000
» it's your
>> factory wholesale price

1893
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:26,672
» is it?
>> That's what the Google says.

1894
02:20:25,120 --> 02:20:28,691
» Yeah, that's what we're getting to.
[laughter]

1895
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:33,040
» Got it.
>> But why can't we go off that one?

1896
02:20:31,912 --> 02:20:37,152
[laughter]
>> Because that's what they

1897
02:20:34,800 --> 02:20:40,960
» Yeah, that's what they bought it for
[laughter]

1898
02:20:38,399 --> 02:20:43,120
stuff.
>> Give us a truck.

1899
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:48,399
» Oh jeez. [laughter]
Now you've done it. There you go.

1900
02:20:44,960 --> 02:20:53,920
There's no wrong wrong thing about
asking for these things, especially with

1901
02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:57,840
cars. Um, I'm in that process myself and
I always

1902
02:20:55,439 --> 02:21:00,640
» I'm like, well, like what is this?
>> I support you getting a new car, by the

1903
02:20:59,439 --> 02:21:05,840
way. [laughter]
I want to push it again. [clears throat]

1904
02:21:02,880 --> 02:21:10,319
» I make a motion public works purchase or
have ton truck purchase, which we

1905
02:21:08,399 --> 02:21:15,840
already approved.
>> A second. Motion by Ron and a second by

1906
02:21:13,359 --> 02:21:21,040
Nicole to approve this purchase. All
those in favor say I.

1907
02:21:17,520 --> 02:21:24,640
» I. Say no. Motion carries.
>> Thank you.

1908
02:21:21,920 --> 02:21:30,800
» Thanks.
>> All right. 7 F utility department job

1909
02:21:28,399 --> 02:21:35,040
description
plural.

1910
02:21:32,319 --> 02:21:41,120
» Yeah, Rick's been busy.
>> Yeah, it's been a thing. Whole vibe.

1911
02:21:39,359 --> 02:21:44,720
Uh what do we have first? Is it uh
Ralph's first operator description on

1912
02:21:43,280 --> 02:21:49,680
your packet? [snorts]
>> Excellent. So I'll uh as we know we

1913
02:21:47,120 --> 02:21:54,720
talked about last year uh Ralph has is
set to retire after 42 years of service.

1914
02:21:52,240 --> 02:21:59,520
Um in anticipation of that I updated the
uh job description and am seeking

1915
02:21:56,479 --> 02:22:03,840
approval uh for the job description and
posting the position uh left open by his

1916
02:22:01,520 --> 02:22:09,760
retirement um so I can start the uh
process of filling the position.

1917
02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:14,560
Sure
you know what you want. So I will make a

1918
02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:19,600
motion we approve this job description.
Second motion by Arvid and a second by

1919
02:22:17,280 --> 02:22:22,960
Mike to approve these descriptions.
There's two.

1920
02:22:21,040 --> 02:22:24,319
» Oh, you want to do both at the same
time?

1921
02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:27,280
» We could do both at the same time. I
guess it's in the uh

1922
02:22:25,760 --> 02:22:30,960
» Is that what you meant, Arvin?
>> I was looking at one, but I certainly

1923
02:22:29,120 --> 02:22:37,920
could be convinced to go to
>> amendment.

1924
02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:40,240
Arbit meant peace. that too.
>> Do you want me to speak about the uh

1925
02:22:39,359 --> 02:22:43,840
other one slightly?
>> We are. Yeah, we see it's related to the

1926
02:22:42,080 --> 02:22:46,640
additional duties.
>> I for that idea.

1927
02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:48,560
» Yeah. Okay.
>> Yeah. Good. They're they're well

1928
02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:51,200
written.
>> Well, approve as presented, right?

1929
02:22:50,240 --> 02:22:53,920
» Yes.
>> Good job,

1930
02:22:52,319 --> 02:22:56,800
» 30 years in HR and these are well
written.

1931
02:22:54,399 --> 02:23:00,000
» Thank you. Thank you.
>> All those in favor say I.

1932
02:22:58,080 --> 02:23:04,479
» I. Post say no.
>> Carried. I do want to say next month we

1933
02:23:02,319 --> 02:23:06,399
will be uh right next month but for
Ralph we will do a little ceremony for

1934
02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:10,640
premier.
>> Yeah, I cleared it with him today. Um he

1935
02:23:08,319 --> 02:23:12,479
said don't you said don't wait until I'm
not an employee.

1936
02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:15,520
» Okay. [laughter]
>> So take or whatever.

1937
02:23:13,760 --> 02:23:19,200
» I gave him the I gave him the option of
the March or the April meeting. So we

1938
02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:22,880
will be honoring him at the next meeting
then for his years of service for the

1939
02:23:21,200 --> 02:23:24,640
» Yeah. So we we had a good laugh over it.
But yeah, he said March meeting would

1940
02:23:24,080 --> 02:23:26,240
work just
>> gonna be a little get together form and

1941
02:23:25,840 --> 02:23:29,280
stuff too.
>> Yeah, we're we're working that as staff

1942
02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:31,120
right now.
>> Working on that internally. So, thank

1943
02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:34,640
you all.
>> Don't worry, I'm not the party planner,

1944
02:23:32,479 --> 02:23:37,439
so it'll be much better attended.
>> Rick, party planner.

1945
02:23:37,040 --> 02:23:39,899
» Me?
>> Yeah.

1946
02:23:37,680 --> 02:23:44,000
» Oh, we we're'll work on it together.
[laughter]

1947
02:23:41,359 --> 02:23:46,800
» I'm building right now. It's a whole
thing.

1948
02:23:44,319 --> 02:23:50,479
» I'm not drinking the punch. [laughter]
>> It's a whole thing right now.

1949
02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:54,560
» All right. Thank you all.
>> Thank you.

1950
02:23:52,000 --> 02:24:00,080
» All right. Uh 6G, application for
payment number one, rebid bluff tower

1951
02:23:57,680 --> 02:24:02,720
water main replacement. It's the next
few are all on Eric here. I'll let them

1952
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:06,880
present on these.
>> All right. Yep. This is just what it

1953
02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:12,319
says. It is application for payment
number one for the Bluff Tower project

1954
02:24:09,680 --> 02:24:16,359
and roughly the amount of or I'll say
the exact amount of $7,870.75

1955
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:26,720
um and all work associated with a tree
clearing. So the project manager for

1956
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:31,840
Minger noted he's like basically I I
want to cover my my sub's bill. That's

1957
02:24:28,960 --> 02:24:34,960
what he's looking to do. So, the work is
work is done.

1958
02:24:33,280 --> 02:24:37,280
» I will move to approve this application
for payment.

1959
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:42,800
» I'll second.
>> Motion by myself and second by Nicole to

1960
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:48,880
approve this payment for the Rebid Bluff
Tower water main replacement project.

1961
02:24:44,720 --> 02:24:50,479
» Well, he's covering more than just
a little bit.

1962
02:24:49,280 --> 02:24:54,560
» Oh, he's got mobilization.
>> Yeah, he's got gas.

1963
02:24:53,200 --> 02:25:00,000
Um,
>> any other discussion on the motion? All

1964
02:24:56,800 --> 02:25:05,760
those in favor say I. I post say no.
Carried.

1965
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:09,600
Uh 6H or 7H, sorry. River Street and
Third Avenue reconstruction

1966
02:25:07,439 --> 02:25:14,960
authorization to bid.
>> All right. So, we've talked about a

1967
02:25:11,520 --> 02:25:19,120
little bit earlier that Devon and I um
had a a public involvement meeting last

1968
02:25:17,120 --> 02:25:26,319
week. That was not with public went over
the project. Again, uh we are at a a a

1969
02:25:22,479 --> 02:25:31,439
stage in the design process. We're
asking the village board for approval to

1970
02:25:28,720 --> 02:25:35,120
go to bid. Um Mike had asked a couple of
questions about lighting and sidewalk.

1971
02:25:33,520 --> 02:25:40,000
And I can kind of go through the
different items that we're including in

1972
02:25:36,800 --> 02:25:47,280
the plan, but specific to lighting,
there is new lighting along the the

1973
02:25:42,319 --> 02:25:52,800
stretch. Um, we're adding a light pole
on third a

1974
02:25:50,240 --> 02:25:56,000
about say a third of the way into the
block and then there's a light pole on

1975
02:25:55,200 --> 02:26:00,720
the corner.
>> So you're in here.

1976
02:25:58,880 --> 02:26:06,040
» Um,
can't quite see where you're putting

1977
02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:06,040
actually, but down on third.

1978
02:26:08,399 --> 02:26:15,200
» Yep. So a little bump out. We were
looking at your packet too or online on

1979
02:26:13,439 --> 02:26:20,000
the bump out on the north side of third
and then on the corner of river and

1980
02:26:16,880 --> 02:26:24,720
third and then we've got a light pole
mid block on the west side of river.

1981
02:26:22,960 --> 02:26:28,891
It's um there's a light pole that's
there now actually an Excel pole Excel

1982
02:26:26,960 --> 02:26:34,399
light that will be removed
[clears throat] and then we've got two

1983
02:26:30,399 --> 02:26:39,439
up near the intersection of 4th Avenue.
the the sidewalk along the Gang

1984
02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:44,640
development will ultimately be the
villages. It's on in the rideway, but

1985
02:26:42,080 --> 02:26:49,120
the AIO Bluff Apartments project will
install that sidewalk as part of their

1986
02:26:46,479 --> 02:26:52,960
project. Just correlates better. That's
what they had shown on the plans that

1987
02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:58,560
were approved by the board as well. It
correlates with construction schedules

1988
02:26:55,120 --> 02:27:03,760
that village puts in the curb street.
They'll be putting on the sidewalk and

1989
02:26:59,840 --> 02:27:09,680
the landscaping on that site.
um go on with I guess the improvements

1990
02:27:07,040 --> 02:27:14,319
that we're doing. Uh placing the water
and sewer mains over 100 years old. All

1991
02:27:12,479 --> 02:27:20,800
the services that are along the the
project corridor. We're installing storm

1992
02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:27,760
sewer. That's what the red line is on
the the plan. So extends down to Third

1993
02:27:24,160 --> 02:27:32,640
Avenue and then runs north. Couple of
inlets along the way. Uh we'll be

1994
02:27:30,080 --> 02:27:37,840
eliminating, as I mentioned earlier, a
couple of outfalls. Uh one's kind of

1995
02:27:35,680 --> 02:27:44,880
directly west of 4th Avenue and then one
is is just north of where the old

1996
02:27:41,120 --> 02:27:49,040
hospital was located. Those will be
one at the old hospital will be removed

1997
02:27:46,960 --> 02:27:52,560
and the one that's just north will be be
plugged and left. Actually, pipe will be

1998
02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:54,479
left. It runs underneath drive.
>> Is it on private property? It

1999
02:27:54,000 --> 02:27:58,080
» is on private.
>> So, it's just going to be plugged and

2000
02:27:55,760 --> 02:28:00,479
left. [clears throat] Has there been
conversation with the property owners on

2001
02:27:59,840 --> 02:28:04,960
that?
>> Yep. Actually talked to them at length

2002
02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:08,800
after the meeting about that and a few
other things. So,

2003
02:28:06,160 --> 02:28:13,359
» okay.
>> And then the storm will actually extend

2004
02:28:10,720 --> 02:28:18,160
up to Lad Park. There's a little park
that's just a residential lot basically

2005
02:28:16,319 --> 02:28:22,399
that's been turned into park and we'll
create a new outfall to the river there.

2006
02:28:20,399 --> 02:28:28,240
There's another outfall that's directly
west of Fifth Avenue um that we could

2007
02:28:26,160 --> 02:28:34,160
have taken the storm for all the way up
to that and discharged there. We decided

2008
02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:40,000
as staff to put it on Lad Park um being
on village property being able to

2009
02:28:36,399 --> 02:28:45,600
maintain it. uh felt like a better
solution than ultimately the outfall

2010
02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:50,399
that's on private property at fifth um
could be eliminated that storms were

2011
02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:53,520
directed down to this new outfall
>> and are the easements and everything

2012
02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:57,760
taken care of now like we don't have
anything missing anywhere anymore

2013
02:28:55,520 --> 02:29:02,640
» so working on that one we're working on
that so there's there are not easements

2014
02:29:00,080 --> 02:29:06,000
on the existing outfall that's currently
remaining at fifth

2015
02:29:04,000 --> 02:29:10,720
» we we met with that with with that
homeowner last week Okay.

2016
02:29:07,920 --> 02:29:13,359
» Yeah. And so, uh, we will be working on
>> That's phase two, right? That's that's

2017
02:29:12,160 --> 02:29:15,760
in the phase two area.
>> It's in the

2018
02:29:14,000 --> 02:29:18,479
» Yeah. So, eventually we would like to
dead on that one, get rid of that

2019
02:29:16,960 --> 02:29:22,960
outfall, too, being on private property
and just accessing everything through

2020
02:29:20,720 --> 02:29:26,240
the outfalls and the one on village
property. Then,

2021
02:29:23,600 --> 02:29:31,600
» Glad Park. Yeah.
>> Um, there will be some storm water

2022
02:29:29,359 --> 02:29:35,280
quality improvements. Uh, one of the
manholes we fitted with some some

2023
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:40,319
functionality that helps take out
sediment and and trash and things that

2024
02:29:37,600 --> 02:29:47,439
just keeps it out of the river.
We're doing some landscaping similar to

2025
02:29:43,120 --> 02:29:54,399
what's down on on First A and Chieftain
the bumpouts, you know, the low

2026
02:29:50,080 --> 02:29:57,920
maintenance type type stuff.
Um,

2027
02:29:56,240 --> 02:30:03,200
» how is this going to go in conjunction
with the gone property? So, because I

2028
02:30:01,600 --> 02:30:06,880
wouldn't want to put any landscaping or
anything until that's done just because

2029
02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:13,359
of trap like
>> Yes. So, the the landscaping like on the

2030
02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:17,840
g side will be they'll do that as well.
>> Okay.

2031
02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:21,840
» So, there's the the kind of corner on
the southwest there.

2032
02:30:19,920 --> 02:30:24,319
» They will landscape that space.
>> Okay.

2033
02:30:22,960 --> 02:30:27,840
So,
>> I'm assuming you're going to submit more

2034
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:30,560
than four drawings, right? Because it's
only a partial package. Is there four

2035
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:34,000
here?
>> Uh, there's only one drawing.

2036
02:30:32,319 --> 02:30:35,520
» Oh, sorry. I was thinking there's four
of something. Maybe I was thinking of a

2037
02:30:35,200 --> 02:30:42,080
different
>> So, no, I'm not asking for approval of

2038
02:30:39,359 --> 02:30:47,439
the plans. I'm asking for authorization
to go to bed.

2039
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:52,560
» I um I'm going to stumble again with
this because I don't know why we can't.

2040
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:56,479
Um, along the same lines of what Nicole
was just suggesting, there's there's

2041
02:30:54,240 --> 02:31:01,359
going to be
um assets that Gan's going to install,

2042
02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:05,280
then I'm going to say suggest are not
going to be clear who's going to

2043
02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:09,040
maintain them in the long term. Um, and
I can appreciate your landscape

2044
02:31:06,880 --> 02:31:12,399
architect is going to probably call out
some neat things, but Todd's going to

2045
02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:16,880
get stuck maintaining them or there's
going to be a piston match between us

2046
02:31:13,600 --> 02:31:22,880
and gone. So I
well and and you know Todd and and staff

2047
02:31:20,240 --> 02:31:31,600
everybody's staff levels is reviewing
the plans. Todd and Rick have been

2048
02:31:25,359 --> 02:31:37,520
involved throughout um they on what gone
does you know the sidewalk uh I think

2049
02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:43,600
it's clear what's what's in the rideway
and what is not. And so they'll be

2050
02:31:40,640 --> 02:31:48,800
submitting um landscaping plans. we
talked about too was brought up at a at

2051
02:31:45,920 --> 02:31:54,319
a different meeting
or want to look at a I don't know if you

2052
02:31:52,080 --> 02:31:59,439
call it a a memorial plaque but a a
plaque recognizing

2053
02:31:56,240 --> 02:32:04,000
the the hospital location and those that
that used to work there. Um, we have

2054
02:32:01,840 --> 02:32:10,479
talked about that with them as well of
maybe what they do is they set aside a a

2055
02:32:06,880 --> 02:32:15,760
spot for a bench and a plaque um up on
the the River Street Rideway and we

2056
02:32:13,680 --> 02:32:18,880
figure out exactly what that is. Glad
that that was part of the discussion

2057
02:32:17,439 --> 02:32:23,600
that was brought up by more than one
resident. So,

2058
02:32:22,319 --> 02:32:27,920
uh, remind me what these colors are
again. So, red represents the um,

2059
02:32:26,880 --> 02:32:33,520
» red is storm sewer.
>> Storm sewer. Okay. Green is sanitary and

2060
02:32:30,479 --> 02:32:37,399
and blue is water.
>> Got it. Thank you.

2061
02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:43,359
» When the um the schedule of when this
gets done, our work would happen after

2062
02:32:42,160 --> 02:32:45,760
Dawn's done
>> simultaneously.

2063
02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:49,920
» Same time.
>> So they they're starting um potentially

2064
02:32:48,640 --> 02:32:54,479
next month.
>> When do you think they're going to be

2065
02:32:51,120 --> 02:32:58,000
done with like u their their crane type
equipment?

2066
02:32:56,399 --> 02:33:01,520
» Yes, we have talked about that. making
sure a final lift does not happen until

2067
02:32:59,920 --> 02:33:03,920
all heavy equipment's out that wouldn't
damage the the existing.

2068
02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:07,200
» Right.
>> I I'm going to

2069
02:33:06,080 --> 02:33:10,960
where I was going with this is I'm going
to suggest there's time that we can wait

2070
02:33:08,479 --> 02:33:15,040
to see a more complete set of plans.
It's I I want to make it be nice to see

2071
02:33:13,680 --> 02:33:18,240
some language to make sure everybody's
clear who owns what. Make silly as it

2072
02:33:17,200 --> 02:33:22,479
sounds, make sure they understand that
to clean their own sidewalks and that

2073
02:33:19,840 --> 02:33:26,000
we're not going to lose code. I get it.
But it's I ran into this in bigger

2074
02:33:24,479 --> 02:33:29,120
cities where you they put something in
and assume you're just going to take

2075
02:33:27,280 --> 02:33:34,040
care of it because it's a your sidewalk
or something. Um the

2076
02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:41,600
like little things like the developer
agreement in Visa that covers that.

2077
02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:45,200
I hope to never hear about it again
then. I hope I hope nobody in that the

2078
02:33:43,680 --> 02:33:48,560
Grace apartment ever complains about the
light you're putting right outside their

2079
02:33:46,399 --> 02:33:52,800
bedroom window.
um

2080
02:33:50,399 --> 02:33:57,680
» or Todd ever complains about a bush or a
tree that it got put in some landscape

2081
02:33:54,960 --> 02:34:03,439
area because it didn't pay the bank
anymore. So I

2082
02:34:01,280 --> 02:34:08,960
» I guess my my concern that it's
happening simultaneously

2083
02:34:05,840 --> 02:34:12,960
is making sure that
>> some of that standard construction

2084
02:34:10,640 --> 02:34:15,439
» Yeah. that everyone's working together.
>> This isn't uncommon when you have two

2085
02:34:14,319 --> 02:34:18,960
projects in the building going at the
same time. I'd agree with that

2086
02:34:16,880 --> 02:34:22,080
wholeheartedly. And I know Steve, which
one is did Steve bidden get?

2087
02:34:20,479 --> 02:34:25,920
» Uh, we haven't This is God forbid yet.
That was Ridge Road.

2088
02:34:22,960 --> 02:34:28,720
» Ridge. Okay. You're going to whoever's
going to be there doesn't want to

2089
02:34:26,800 --> 02:34:31,680
warranty their street, assuming there's
another construction project going on.

2090
02:34:30,479 --> 02:34:34,160
So, they're going to pick a schedule
that's going to say, "Okay, we're not

2091
02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:36,720
doing that final lift, which is that
last 3 in of asphalt or something,

2092
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:41,680
» right?"
>> However, it just I don't see the

2093
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:47,520
schedule to push this that fast. I'd
like to see more drawings.

2094
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:51,920
Well, and we have um we have more
detailed drawings. We were actually at

2095
02:34:49,760 --> 02:34:56,240
90% until a change we made just last
week and now we're making some

2096
02:34:53,680 --> 02:35:01,920
adjustments. Um, I made the conscious
effort not to put the plans in the in

2097
02:34:59,280 --> 02:35:07,520
board's packet and uh provide just kind
of more of a graphical

2098
02:35:04,000 --> 02:35:14,160
um and you know it can be different but
I'm

2099
02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:21,412
utilizing staff myself for basically the
engineer plans um and the the board for

2100
02:35:19,600 --> 02:35:24,880
the project. I I I have full
[clears throat] confidence in the staff

2101
02:35:22,720 --> 02:35:28,640
and and you and and Devon working
together in the process. So, I'm going

2102
02:35:26,319 --> 02:35:32,240
to make a motion to authorize the bid of
River Street Third Avenue

2103
02:35:29,760 --> 02:35:36,000
reconstruction.
>> I'll second.

2104
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:41,359
» There's no construction schedule in the
original request for bid for the water

2105
02:35:38,800 --> 02:35:46,000
tower and that really put us in a
predicament

2106
02:35:42,880 --> 02:35:51,040
and that was your initial
set of plans.

2107
02:35:47,840 --> 02:35:55,120
So I I I don't have the same confidence.
So

2108
02:35:52,960 --> 02:36:00,520
Mike speaks opposed. Is there anybody
that has any other discussion on the

2109
02:35:57,040 --> 02:36:00,520
motion on the floor?

2110
02:36:02,720 --> 02:36:07,760
Seeing another no other discussion,
we'll proceed to the vote. All those in

2111
02:36:06,560 --> 02:36:13,479
favor say I.
>> I. Post say no. Motion here.

2112
02:36:13,600 --> 02:36:22,000
» Okay. Moving on. 7 I Ridge Road
Extension bid review and authorization.

2113
02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:26,000
» Yeah. So, this didn't make it in the
electronic packet and that's what was

2114
02:36:23,600 --> 02:36:29,359
handed out and and was nice enough to
print it out for me uh twice.

2115
02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:33,600
» Yeah. Go on the website. It'll be going
on the website tomorrow.

2116
02:36:31,040 --> 02:36:36,319
» Um and and the reason it didn't make it
in is because we actually opened it this

2117
02:36:35,280 --> 02:36:43,920
morning.
>> Yeah. And um we did that uh basically to

2118
02:36:40,880 --> 02:36:49,840
gain a week of of it being out there for
contractors to find and to bid on. Um we

2119
02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:53,920
received eight bids. You can see the the
different contractors listed. Maybe I

2120
02:36:52,399 --> 02:36:57,560
can read them out for the public to know
too. We've got

2121
02:36:58,720 --> 02:37:06,680
JNS General Contracting, Albertson and
Excavating, A1 Excavating, Stout

2122
02:37:03,680 --> 02:37:06,680
Construction,

2123
02:37:08,880 --> 02:37:16,160
Total Excavating, Tri City Con,
Contractors, O Suns, and Minger

2124
02:37:14,560 --> 02:37:24,560
Construction
Biders with JNS being the low bid at

2125
02:37:22,399 --> 02:37:27,560
873,000.
$45.85.

2126
02:37:27,680 --> 02:37:36,800
Um, our last construction estimate was
about 1.1 million.

2127
02:37:34,080 --> 02:37:44,800
And so it's it's in the range and and
lower. I mean, everybody was kind of

2128
02:37:39,200 --> 02:37:49,319
right there. Um, the highest being about
1.25

2129
02:37:46,319 --> 02:37:49,319
million.

2130
02:37:49,439 --> 02:37:57,600
I did talk to JNS after the bid, asked
them if they were comfortable with where

2131
02:37:54,880 --> 02:38:02,800
their numbers were at
project. Um they they are comfortable.

2132
02:38:01,439 --> 02:38:05,920
Um
>> they're they're currently on site for

2133
02:38:04,160 --> 02:38:10,520
the Worer project. They're the
contractor working for Worer which

2134
02:38:12,960 --> 02:38:21,359
» So was anybody else a 40% swing to
warrant of concern,

2135
02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:29,080
» right? They have no mobilization costs.
None.

2136
02:38:23,520 --> 02:38:29,080
I meant figuratively. Yeah.

2137
02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:35,840
» And the the health of the tips like this
number too.

2138
02:38:35,200 --> 02:38:37,600
most important
>> 15,000. Yeah.

2139
02:38:36,800 --> 02:38:43,760
» Yeah.
>> 30,000 less.

2140
02:38:40,800 --> 02:38:49,600
» So, we feel um confident that JNS can do
the work. Um we will be out there doing

2141
02:38:47,040 --> 02:38:54,800
inspection. Well, on your approval, the
construction administration contract

2142
02:38:51,760 --> 02:38:58,160
which we'll bring to next meeting, but
we've got to be out there. or somebody

2143
02:38:56,160 --> 02:39:04,000
has to be out there for inspection of
water and sewer and say that that

2144
02:39:02,319 --> 02:39:05,840
» Albright Albrightson has done work for
us too, right?

2145
02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:08,160
» Yes.
>> And their numbers really close.

2146
02:39:07,439 --> 02:39:11,040
» Yeah.
>> They did the demo of the skate park

2147
02:39:10,479 --> 02:39:15,200
house, didn't they?
>> No, Albertson did uh Simmon.

2148
02:39:13,600 --> 02:39:19,040
» Oh, that's right. They did Simmon Drive.
Yeah.

2149
02:39:16,880 --> 02:39:22,640
» Oh, they did the the pavement out here.
Yeah.

2150
02:39:19,760 --> 02:39:25,760
» Only 90
>> They did the parking lot and some of the

2151
02:39:24,240 --> 02:39:27,680
street pavement last summer, too. So we
we've done work with all brason also

2152
02:39:27,359 --> 02:39:29,680
that
>> yeah but the total bid comes in

2153
02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:33,920
» right
>> it's it's everybody it's it's games we

2154
02:39:32,000 --> 02:39:39,840
play
>> I move we award this to JNS

2155
02:39:37,439 --> 02:39:44,319
motion by myself second by Mike to award
this bid to JNS any discussion all those

2156
02:39:42,960 --> 02:39:51,920
in favor say I
>> I post say no motion carries

2157
02:39:49,520 --> 02:39:56,000
7J
discussion regarding resolution 2602

2158
02:39:54,640 --> 02:40:00,640
petitioning the secretary of
transportation for airport improvement

2159
02:39:58,560 --> 02:40:05,760
aid.
>> Um this these are uh resolutions that

2160
02:40:03,760 --> 02:40:11,760
have the board has approved in the past.
This is for the airports um

2161
02:40:09,359 --> 02:40:14,640
um aids that they they get. It has to be
approved at the board level, not at the

2162
02:40:13,200 --> 02:40:17,520
airport commission level. So that's why
it's before you tonight.

2163
02:40:15,760 --> 02:40:19,920
» There's no money on out of our pockets
or this.

2164
02:40:18,479 --> 02:40:23,040
» I would make a motion that we approve
this resolution.

2165
02:40:20,800 --> 02:40:29,960
» A second. Motion by Mike and a second by
Nicole to adopt resolution 2602. Any

2166
02:40:26,960 --> 02:40:29,960
discussion?

2167
02:40:31,760 --> 02:40:39,359
» Yeah, it's a maintenance building, a new
control power.

2168
02:40:36,399 --> 02:40:41,680
» It's They might not build them.
>> They ask for money for

2169
02:40:40,720 --> 02:40:45,840
» They ask for the money.
>> That's right. [laughter]

2170
02:40:43,439 --> 02:40:48,560
» Schools are ambitious.
>> I just want people to know that doesn't

2171
02:40:47,120 --> 02:40:52,479
mean they're doing it. They're just
>> getting the funds. Yes.

2172
02:40:49,680 --> 02:40:55,840
» Yeah. They're trying.
>> All right. All those in favor say I.

2173
02:40:54,640 --> 02:40:59,760
» Post say no.
>> Motion carries. All right. Before we

2174
02:40:58,240 --> 02:41:03,680
move to item eight, which is future
agenda items and updates, we have a

2175
02:41:01,520 --> 02:41:08,319
procedural issue to take care of. We
have a reconsideration. So

2176
02:41:05,280 --> 02:41:15,600
reconsideration by Robert's rules. Um,
in order to move motion reconsideration,

2177
02:41:12,720 --> 02:41:18,880
the motion must be made by a member of
the board and the prevailing voting

2178
02:41:17,040 --> 02:41:23,760
side. I believe this was a unanimous
vote. So any one of us can move to

2179
02:41:21,040 --> 02:41:29,581
reconsider the motion that was made
pursuant to agenda item seven

2180
02:41:27,562 --> 02:41:29,581
[sighs and gasps]

2181
02:41:30,800 --> 02:41:33,800
» six.

2182
02:41:33,840 --> 02:41:42,080
Yeah,
>> it's item six. So uh I move we

2183
02:41:38,399 --> 02:41:46,960
reconsider item six.
Typically motions to reconsider require

2184
02:41:44,000 --> 02:41:51,200
roll call vote. Uh so if there's no
discussion on this motion we will

2185
02:41:48,720 --> 02:41:56,960
proceed through roll call
Nicole

2186
02:41:53,200 --> 02:42:01,920
Harvet Ron myself as an I and Mike.
>> So it's unanimous. So this item has been

2187
02:41:59,200 --> 02:42:07,319
recalled and is now open for discussion.
Carrie do you want to give us the

2188
02:42:03,120 --> 02:42:07,319
details on what we should be doing now?

2189
02:42:17,359 --> 02:42:22,960
It's whether we're going to bill people
that do not have utility accounts with

2190
02:42:21,120 --> 02:42:26,160
the village or if we're only going to
build people that have utility accounts.

2191
02:42:24,479 --> 02:42:29,920
» These are land owners in the village
that do not currently utilize village

2192
02:42:28,479 --> 02:42:31,040
utility hookups.
>> Yes.

2193
02:42:30,319 --> 02:42:35,359
» Got it.
>> So, yeah, we we would have to create new

2194
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:38,640
accounts for these people and find out
who they are or we're not going to bill

2195
02:42:36,960 --> 02:42:41,439
them at all. So, that's kind of what
what the

2196
02:42:39,120 --> 02:42:44,439
» thoughts I don't want to bill them.
>> No.

2197
02:42:45,359 --> 02:42:51,840
» Not using sounds latigious.
>> Why don't you make that clear motion and

2198
02:42:50,560 --> 02:42:57,439
somebody
>> If somebody would like to propose a

2199
02:42:53,600 --> 02:43:03,479
motion that we adopt ordinance 2601
excluding non

2200
02:42:59,920 --> 02:43:03,479
utility customers.

2201
02:43:04,479 --> 02:43:10,960
Second
>> motion by Mike, second by Nicole to

2202
02:43:08,000 --> 02:43:15,359
adopt ordinance 2601 amending chapter
2011 utility to add article 6 storm

2203
02:43:12,800 --> 02:43:22,680
water utility to village code excluding
non utility customers.

2204
02:43:18,160 --> 02:43:22,680
» You had a puppet changing.

2205
02:43:23,520 --> 02:43:30,640
» Is there any discussion? Excuse me. We
are not in public comment at the moment

2206
02:43:28,560 --> 02:43:35,359
and the public hearing is complete on
this. We don't need to have another

2207
02:43:32,960 --> 02:43:38,680
public hearing for something that's
already complete.

2208
02:43:39,600 --> 02:43:45,920
Is there any further discussion on the
motion on the floor?

2209
02:43:43,120 --> 02:43:51,840
All right. All those in favor say I. I.
Post say no. Motion carries. All right.

2210
02:43:48,800 --> 02:43:58,359
Now, we've corrected that issue. Uh item
eight, future agenda items and updates.

2211
02:43:54,000 --> 02:43:58,359
Uh moving around the room, Nicole.

2212
02:43:58,560 --> 02:44:04,200
» Nothing. Harvid,
>> nothing. Congratulations on your

2213
02:44:01,200 --> 02:44:04,200
retirement.

2214
02:44:05,040 --> 02:44:08,840
» I don't have anything. Mike,

2215
02:44:14,160 --> 02:44:20,720
we'll do that. And the budget every
>> Yeah, the budget is another issue. And

2216
02:44:18,960 --> 02:44:25,399
wherever Neil is, I'm sure he wants us
to say it. So, budget $400,000.

2217
02:44:25,520 --> 02:44:30,080
» I was a little busy last month with
budget stuff.

2218
02:44:28,399 --> 02:44:34,520
» All right. Uh that's it everybody. We
are adjourned at 8:44. Thank you.

2219
02:44:58,000 --> 02:45:06,200
I will
white t-shirt on top.

2220
02:45:02,160 --> 02:45:06,200
» You better get your dog tag.

2221
02:45:09,520 --> 02:45:16,159
» I always I always
probably always has a tag. He just

2222
02:45:14,080 --> 02:45:18,179
doesn't wear
[laughter]

2223
02:45:18,479 --> 02:45:21,640
» he doesn't

2224
02:45:40,080 --> 02:45:43,068
like [laughter]

2225
02:45:53,120 --> 02:45:58,160
I do have [laughter] a phone to pick
with

2226
02:45:55,279 --> 02:46:01,399
» it.
I just

2227
02:46:04,960 --> 02:46:07,960
» mean

2228
02:46:17,729 --> 02:46:19,749
[laughter]

2229
02:46:25,359 --> 02:46:28,520
we're not

2230
02:46:36,319 --> 02:46:42,399
Yeah, because the vote that we took
after the public hearing was so

2231
02:46:40,720 --> 02:46:49,319
everything that we do after public
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action