[0:16] He's in Florida.
>> Yeah. [laughter] He
[0:19] » just had to sit outside, too.
>> Yeah. He just had to sit outside and
[0:23] enjoy the weather, too. Rude.
[0:33] » Just chose to move it to the agenda.
>> All right. It's uh six o'clock. We'll
[0:36] call the meeting to order with the
pledge of allegiance.
[0:58] Hey, the clerk is currently not in the
room.
[1:06] » She was making a comment, right?
>> Yeah. It's in a couple sheets.
[1:10] » I think everyone is
>> pages two and four messing up the uh
[1:14] » Yeah.
>> Yep.
[2:20] » [clears throat]
[2:36] [cough and clears throat]
[3:26] » Let me know when you're ready.
Okay. Uh clerk will take the role.
[3:32] [laughter]
[clears throat and cough]
[3:39] I did see him.
Dan, if you're here, can you can you
[3:43] speak?
[3:49] Probably.
Here.
[3:56] » Yes.
>> Here.
[3:59] » Here.
[4:05] » Yeah. Van is present in the
recorded meeting that we have. So, cook
[4:12] note that we have five and a half. I
guess [laughter]
[4:16] Ben, can you hear us? I think I'm back.
It looks like he's lighting up like he's
[4:22] speaking.
>> I saw that. I heard something.
[4:24] » Okay. Hopefully we can
hopefully we can figure out how to hear
[4:29] him. If not, then we won't. So, I think
we'll just at this point note that we
[4:33] have a five
>> five person
[4:39] [clears throat] forum with two with two
absent. Yeah, Neil won't be here. Bang.
[4:42] Bang. Can you speak again?
>> Uh, one, two,
[4:46] » I can barely hear him. Is there a mic
that I need to move?
[4:53] » Is
[4:56] » Yeah, I have it. Sound should be out on
the
[5:04] » Don't see what my picks are either.
>> Okay. Uh the volume on the thing on the
[5:09] on the cross should go all the way to
the right. Should be on the bottom.
[5:15] No, not not not that. Is he coming
through that?
[5:18] » No.
>> Okay.
[5:22] Volume up.
>> Room volume is all the way up.
[5:23] » Okay.
[5:26] » Try it again. Van,
[5:33] » I see other people.
>> I think you'll be able to hear a yay or
[5:38] nay, right?
>> Yep. Yep.
[5:40] » Yeah. Teacher
>> six. Yep.
[5:44] [clears throat] Uh before we get to the
approval of the agenda, um I was
[5:48] communicated to by uh Trustee Klene that
uh there was uh an expressed interest in
[5:56] potentially removing
item 7A from the agenda. Um if there's
[6:02] any interest in doing that, the motion
has to be made before we approve the
[6:06] agenda because then we would then have a
motion to approve the amended agenda.
[6:11] So, I will leave that to the the board
at large if anybody wishes to make a
[6:15] motion regarding that. Otherwise, we'll
just entertain a motion to approve the
[6:18] agenda as presented.
[6:25] » I'll second.
>> We have a motion and a second to approve
[6:27] the agenda as presented. All those in
favor say I.
[6:30] » I. Post say no.
>> Motion carries. All right. So the
[6:34] consent agenda includes our regular
meeting from January as well as licenses
[6:39] and permits for lucky seven tippy canoes
the mill and then board committee
[6:44] meeting and agency reports as listed
vouchers payable and there is no budget
[6:49] summary included in the consent agenda
this time. Does anyone have any
[6:53] questions on the consent? If
>> I could comment on the budget right now
[6:56] been swamped with um finishing up year
end stuff and audit request. So no no
[7:02] time to get to that this month. Anybody
else have anything that they wanted to
[7:07] cover or discuss from the consent before
we have a motion to approve?
[7:10] [clears throat]
>> But I'll make a motion to approve the
[7:13] consent agenda.
>> Thanks, Nicole. Thank you, Mike. We have
[7:16] a motion and a second to approve consent
agenda. All those in favor say I.
[7:21] » I. Oppos say no. Motion carries. Item
four in the agenda is public input and
[7:26] ideas. Limit five minutes per speaker.
Anybody who wishes to address the board,
[7:30] now is the time to come up. Please make
sure that the microphone of the dace is
[7:34] on and that you state your name and your
address and then you'll have five
[7:38] minutes to address the board.
[7:46] » No.
>> Sure.
[7:50] » Sure.
[7:54] » Thank you.
>> There. Okay. Cheryl Beardsley. My
[7:58] address is 1850 60th Avenue, Oyola,
Wisconsin. Um, I'm a member of the
[8:03] heritage committee and we just wanted to
inform you of some of the things we've
[8:07] been up to. Um,
I think you probably all already know
[8:12] that we did a tableabling at the Ocul
and interviewed whoever wanted to talk
[8:17] about what their family history was like
in the in the area and how they'd like
[8:22] the town to be represented.
and those have been um transcribed and
[8:29] yeah included in our thinking. We're
compiling a bibliography of resources um
[8:36] that includes the Ocola village
chronicle, the history of Ojiway people.
[8:41] Um we've interviewed Ojiway
[clears throat] historian Jason
[8:45] Schneider
Slender, sorry.
[8:49] And um we've drafted some signed content
which we can pass out to you tonight.
[8:56] It's just a draft. It's as you probably
know this is a complicated story and so
[9:02] we've sort of taken a stab at it with
what we currently know. We want to get
[9:07] more input putut from the tri tribe
about some of the language but that's um
[9:12] so that's in the works and we plan to
meet with people in the OE historical
[9:19] society and interview um former I think
she's the former historian for a the St.
[9:25] Croy band Wanda McFagen
and we'll host listening sessions and
[9:30] get feedback on what we've got once
we've got more and we we're going to
[9:36] collaborate with Diane Wilson on the
Dakota part of the history. She's a
[9:40] author from the other side of the river
and has Dakota history. She's actually
[9:44] the author for the Valley Reads book
this year.
[9:50] Um,
and I've been attending the um,
[9:55] senior cent's
gathering. So, that's a group of seniors
[10:00] that just meet and talk and I plan to go
to the potluck just because there'll be
[10:05] more people and probably different
points of view. Um,
[10:10] so we just wanted to let you know that
we're working. We've got words and
[10:16] you'll get the words.
So, thank you. That's it.
[10:21] » You want me to turn this off? No,
>> keep it on. Thank you.
[10:23] » Keep it on.
[10:28] » Hello.
>> Hey, Eric.
[10:30] » Eric Rens, 403A 8th Avenue, also the
owner of AIO Lanes in downtown
[10:36] Wisconsin.
AIO Wisconsin. All right.
[10:41] So, first off, I just want to thank
everybody that took my phone calls
[10:43] today. I really appreciate you guys
hearing me out. Um, I feel like my
[10:47] points were made. Um, I guess to start
with, I just say that I'm semi-
[10:52] disappointed and feel a little bit
betrayed by the board here. Um, when we
[10:57] went through this in June, all everybody
talked and I can read some direct
[11:01] quotes. Um, I won't say who said it, but
I agree. I just don't think we have
[11:05] enough information to make a decision.
And I know I'm not willing to vote for
[11:08] something over the objections of
downtown businesses. I think that they
[11:12] form the heart of the community and
bring people here. and we need to take
[11:15] the time to truly engage with them in
this because this is a monumental change
[11:19] that we're talking about. I don't think
there's been enough front-end
[11:22] conversations to talk about the
permutations of this. That was one
[11:26] member, another board member. I think at
the very least we should probably just
[11:29] wait till the ribbon gets cut on the
bridge. This conversation can continue
[11:34] can continue when that stress has been
removed. There's a lot of time between
[11:37] now and then that we can gather a lot of
data and make lot decisions, but we
[11:40] should wait to the bridge to open then
continue the conversation. Now, I know
[11:44] many will say that there's no different
or there's a difference between what was
[11:47] presented then and what's being
presented now. But the main issue is
[11:50] still that we're trying to tell people
we don't want them in this town longer
[11:54] than 2 hours. And after talking with the
business community, this is a very major
[11:58] concern to all of us. Um when we get
people in this town, we want to keep
[12:03] them here. If people come to go to see
the falls, we don't want them leaving
[12:06] town to go eat. If you go to the falls,
you hike up to the bluff to see the
[12:11] view. It's beautiful. You come down, you
go eat at the waterhed. You walk down,
[12:15] you get ice cream at the antique store.
And then you might go have a drink on
[12:18] the patio. And you do that on a Saturday
afternoon. You come at 11:00 and you
[12:22] leave at 1:30. You think you had a great
day. All of a sudden, you leave town. 3
[12:25] weeks later, all of a sudden, you get a
bail in the mail for $30. Do you know
[12:29] what you're going to remember about
Oyola? You're not going to remember the
[12:31] waterfall. You're not going to remember
the beautiful view. You're going to
[12:33] remember that $30 ticket cuz that
frustrates you. Um, I'm sure a lot of
[12:37] know that I presented this to my people
on Facebook. I'll just read a couple
[12:41] that when I was sitting down here came
across. As an out oftowner who frequents
[12:45] a yellow for their shops, restaurants,
and bowling, I can tell you that this is
[12:49] 100% bad idea. If I get a parking ticket
because I happen to be shopping for only
[12:52] 2 minutes over 2 hours, that will be the
only thing I remember and it'll be my
[12:56] last visit to Oyola.
Um, this is a very hot button issue. Um,
[13:02] and like I said, I don't think there's
any difference between meter parking and
[13:04] enforcing the two hours. Of course,
meter parking is more inconvenient to
[13:08] people, but still the message of the
story is we don't want you here longer
[13:12] than two hours. And I don't know why we
are telling visitors to our town that.
[13:17] Um, another issue that I just brought up
is people, how are they going to know
[13:20] that it's all of a sudden being
enforced? So, all of a sudden they've
[13:24] been coming here for years and years and
years and then they get a ticket 3
[13:28] months later saying, "Hey, you get fined
$30." They're not going to want to come
[13:32] back to this town. Um, I know the main
thing that they're going to talk about
[13:35] is safety sticks. Um, when I looked at
the agenda, it looked like there was 29
[13:40] pages on just the camera enforcement and
not that much on safety sticks. So, I
[13:44] feel like the proposal is more on the
cameras downtown and making sure people
[13:48] leave this town within 2 hours or get
fined than the safety sticks. Um, the
[13:53] safety sticks, I think they call them
safety sticks because that sounds good.
[13:57] They want to get their foot in the door
with municipalities with a safety stick
[14:00] cuz everybody wants safety, right? Um,
so the safety sticks monitor the
[14:05] crosswalks or the fire hydrants. I go
downtown every day. I've never seen
[14:08] somebody parked in front of the
crosswalks. I noticed in the letters
[14:12] that it's only downtown. Why are the
safety sticks only downtown and not out
[14:15] by the schools or down 35 here? It seems
like they're just trying to get their
[14:21] foot in the door so that 3 months from
now they can ping Devon with another
[14:24] email. Hey, how are the safety sticks
going? Do you think we could, you know,
[14:27] propose this to the board again about,
you know, monitoring the two-hour lots
[14:30] and putting the cameras up or what about
readers? And never mind say, I know I
[14:33] don't think they're appetite for it
right now. 6 months later, they're going
[14:36] to ping them again. Hey, what do you
think about this? And it's just going to
[14:39] happen. And us business, us in the
business community are going to have to
[14:41] keep fighting this over and over again.
I think safety sticks solve a problem
[14:45] that doesn't exist besides for that
company because they get their foot in
[14:48] the door. Um, I acknowledge that parking
is a problem during the day downtown,
[14:53] but I think that's mostly an employee
parking issue. Um, the problem is this
[14:58] doesn't solve that problem. Employees
downtown still need a place to park. If
[15:01] we want to come up with a solution for
that, we have to give them an option of
[15:04] somewhere to park. One of the options is
behind the old Dairy Queen, Busy Bean. I
[15:09] think that's a great opportunity because
a lot of the congestion downtown is down
[15:12] by the bowling alley, Hogi Dental, and
everywhere else. So if we had a
[15:16] opportunity to turn that into parking
>> 15 seconds. Okay. Well, I want to move
[15:20] ahead. So business impact is going to
kill my business. My senior leagues, my
[15:23] bowling tournaments, all go over two
hours. It's going to be devastating.
[15:27] During this 6 hours that I have known
about this, I've heard from Studio A,
[15:30] Dicks, Hockey, Deno, Pys, Jackpot,
Staple, Looking Glass, Ocio Cleaners,
[15:34] Valley Spirits, Valley Studs, Ace Hard,
myself, Watershed, and the Mill and 1500
[15:38] people have signed the petition,
including 300 in the last six hours. I
[15:42] implore you to listen to their voices on
this issue. And it's frustrating that
[15:46] our business voices feel like we're not
being heard.
[15:49] » Thanks, Eric.
[15:56] Anybody else wish to address the board?
[16:04] Nobody else, we will move on from item
four to item five on the agenda, which
[16:10] is staff reports. So, we're going to
start with uh 5A1 police.
[16:16] » You get 10 or [clears throat]
[16:20] AJ's at a conference in Wisconsin this
week.
[16:23] » Uh good evening everyone. As Deon
mentioned, Chief Bach is at the annual
[16:27] chief's conference. My name is Tanner
Revan. If anyone hasn't met me, I've
[16:30] been employed with the village since
fall of 2019 as a police officer. I'm
[16:35] the most senior guy right after Chief
Box. So, in January of 2026, OciOla PD
[16:40] officers completed 70 incident reports
and five traffic crash reports. Our
[16:46] officers made nine arrests, including
five felony arrests. Our officers
[16:50] initiated 233 traffic stops and issued
115 citations. Our police administrative
[16:57] assistant processed 10 requests for
records and/or background pet background
[17:02] checks. School resource officer Trembley
responded to nine school related
[17:06] incidents in the month of January.
Some of the notable incidents which our
[17:11] officers responded to in January
included a burglary attempt where a
[17:15] suspect attempt to enter an occupied
residence. This incident is currently
[17:20] under investigation. Our department took
a report of sexual assault that occurred
[17:25] within the village. Following further
investigation, our officers executed a
[17:30] search warrant at a residence to collect
evidence and arrested the suspect who
[17:34] was subsequently charged with two counts
of secondderee sexual assault.
[17:39] Our officers have been diligent on
traffic enforcement and drug
[17:42] interdiction. In January alone, our
officers had three OWI related arrests,
[17:47] including a felony OWI4th offense and
seven marijuana related stops with over
[17:53] 46 physical grams of THC positive
material, as well as as seven THC vape
[17:59] devices or pens have been collected.
Each THC pen could potentially contain
[18:04] the equivalent of over 40 grams of
marijuana. And we have noted that these
[18:08] devices have been more popular
alternatives used by the younger
[18:11] demographic.
We concluded our low light inclement
[18:16] weather shoot at the Ocula Ryman Gun
Club. I'll personally note it was
[18:19] negative 25 degrees at that time. So
inclement weather is correct. During
[18:24] this training, we also qualified our new
officers with our department long guns.
[18:28] Officer Reban, myself, and Chief B
completed their instructor development
[18:32] curriculum required for reapplying for
certification as an instructor.
[18:37] myself, Officer Miller, Trembley, and
Chief Bach
[18:42] reertified as basic and toxic meter
operators. Officers Dodge and Valene
[18:46] will be attending the operator
certification course later this year. I
[18:51] have been working hard processing
evidence scheduled to be purged from our
[18:54] inventory. We are also establishing a
department seizure program which would
[18:58] allow the Ocola Police Department to
recoup some costs associated with
[19:02] investigations by seizing assets such as
currency or vehicles that were used in
[19:07] the commission of various felony level
offenses.
[19:13] » How much cash have you found so far?
>> Just while purging the evidence room, it
[19:17] was approximately we had four over
$4,000 in seized cash from two drug bus.
[19:22] And going through the process, we were
able to recoup 2,000 of that for
[19:26] department costs. And the other 2,000
was sent to the state school fund per
[19:30] statute.
[clears throat and cough]
[19:34] » I think it's somewhere else, but I'm
going to ask it here. Is there a isn't
[19:37] there a new truck on order going to be
ordered or something?
[19:39] » Uh, it's on the CIP for order. So once
the CIP gets approved and all that, then
[19:44] we can go forward with it.
>> And then the the new uh the radios have
[19:49] been implemented.
>> The radios have arrived. Yes.
[19:52] » I don't know. Are they working good?
>> Um, a few have them already. So, yes,
[19:56] they required new mounts. One of our
officers had a soft mount, so he is able
[20:00] to use it. Second officer was able to
get his hard mount, so he is using it.
[20:04] And our third officer is just waiting
for the last one to show up. But all
[20:07] indicators are that they work great in
the village. So,
[20:16] » thanks.
>> You can fill in anytime. [laughter]
[20:20] » All right. All right, next up, public
works.
[20:29] Hey, good evening everyone.
[20:35] January was a little crazy
weatherwise, but um
[20:42] we welcome the cold spell. uh gives us
time to focus on things like I mentioned
[20:48] in the report and inventorying and
getting our our shop back into a
[20:53] workable space. Generally, it's kind of
crazy um to do some things during the
[20:58] transition of seasons, but these really
cold periods allow us to focus on
[21:03] equipment and
getting our stuff back in order, getting
[21:07] ready for a new year and a new season.
But multiple snow events in January uh
[21:13] and continued maintenance weekly
removing snow and ice. A lot of
[21:16] freezing, thawing ice like that. So
these little dustings and this freezing
[21:21] and thawing is sometimes more of a
nuisance than just getting like a foot
[21:23] of snow.
uh secure [clears throat] an additional
[21:27] salt for 2026 here thinking we're going
to get through the rest of the season
[21:30] given the current um uh weather we're
having but a seage across the Midwest
[21:36] forced us to kind of emergency
um purchase the salt that was necessary.
[21:44] The county and state unfortunately cut
everyone off. So we were thankful with
[21:50] our local community to get our salt in a
timely manner.
[21:56] uh continue clean and dancing storm
sewer openings. Uh that's been non-stop.
[22:01] You'll see us out there opening catch
basins constantly and utilizing some
[22:05] salt in some areas or even sometimes
steaming or jetting things to get them
[22:09] open.
Uh street lights have been repaired
[22:12] downtown. Everything's been functioning
well at this point. Um we know we have
[22:16] uh new light post, short one that came
in on uh Second Avenue, the parking lot
[22:22] there. It's only been hit about five
times now. Um, so we look forward to
[22:28] having that replaced.
As I mentioned last month, uh, we were
[22:33] just waiting one more acceptance for our
city application has been approved.
[22:37] We're approaching 20 years, a 50-year
program. So, it's pretty neat to be a
[22:40] pro part of that whole process. Um, ice
skating rink is open along with our
[22:45] warming shack. We can see it's been
utilized. Uh we've been keeping up on
[22:49] it, but even today we'll see a little
colder weather overnight. Um have fresh
[22:55] fresh to skate on tomorrow.
Uh restroom floors. Some of our
[23:00] restrooms are seeing overhaul, including
in our shop. But uh we did was we sanded
[23:04] them down and uh applied a uh
an epox epoxy paint. One of those things
[23:11] that again we're just getting ready for
thousands of visitors to no pond
[23:14] restrooms and stuff like that. um for
the year tree pruning
[23:22] very high along with dealing with our
emerald bore trees, public trees. Um I
[23:27] think we're going to we're set for
taking about six more down this week.
[23:30] We're going to concentrate on Third
Avenue. So you'll see us out and about a
[23:34] lot of trees going to be coming down
with this better weather. uh tree
[23:37] pruning in parks and was the time to
just go ahead and just really start uh
[23:41] letting them up appropriately, getting
them trimmed up, getting ready for the
[23:45] budding season, and then planning over
second for Grismo and Gateway Metal
[23:49] Parks. It's a brief update. Uh a lot of
the uh the stairway has arrived, bulk
[23:55] parts are being uh behind the old DQ
site on village property at this time.
[24:02] Made several mentions. we have
appropriate space, other spaces
[24:07] available for them seem to work for them
logistically to have it there and
[24:11] looking forward to start putting stuff
together soon. Uh, as they stated in the
[24:14] last meeting we had last week.
Yeah. Any questions?
[24:22] AJ learned that not always is the state
contract the most economical place. So,
[24:27] I see you're shopping or buying a truck.
>> Correct. you know, shopping and seeking.
[24:34] Yes.
>> Yeah. It
[24:36] I've done state contract stuff for what
I do, too. Yep.
[24:38] » You put a number out that you know you
can sell it for. It doesn't always mean
[24:41] that just like AJ found that you can get
a better deal. Sometimes if there's
[24:45] rebates and somebody gets more
aggressive. So,
[24:48] » you're absolutely correct. I look
forward to presenting um that here
[24:52] shortly and the steps that they took in
looking after regional, state, and just
[24:57] dealer incentives and getting the best
deal. Awesome.
[25:01] The um I know we were conversing. I
struggle with I've mentioned this before
[25:06] the meeting. I struggle with the email
system here in the in the um the Apple
[25:10] format. I'd much rather do a PC type
outlook. Did we have a meeting this week
[25:15] for public works?
>> We don't. Okay.
[25:18] » Um I think I got everyone's feedback
recommendations in the past.
[25:21] » Yeah,
>> I received all three emails. I know I do
[25:24] apologize as we did have some snow and
some other things going on. It missed
[25:28] yours as I mentioned. It's fine. So I do
intend on fulling fully sticking to the
[25:34] calendar, the yearly calendar. And
>> we missed the December one and that was
[25:38] where the conversation kind of started.
>> June, our last one was in June, correct?
[25:42] » Yeah, our last June. So we missed two, I
think.
[25:44] » Oh, okay. I know we missed December
because I remember asking about it.
[25:48] » Sure.
>> Um and that's one where it's like I I
[25:50] would love to see us book them out for
the year. So I can plan because it it
[25:54] isn't just even us sitting here in
meetings. It's the public too.
[25:57] » No, absolutely. I look forward to that
for benefit. And by all means, if
[26:02] something happens and it snows, change
it. I mean, we all get it. Um just the
[26:07] further we can plan in advance, the
better.
[26:09] » That sounds good.
>> Don't have a meeting this week.
[26:12] » We will not be having that meeting
tomorrow. I hope that I clarified in the
[26:15] last email that I look forward to the
>> You did. I just couldn't figure out
[26:18] which one came when.
>> Yeah.
[26:20] » So, the chicken and egg thing.
[laughter] got a little confusing. You
[26:23] apologize, but we look forward to a
March 25th meeting.
[26:26] » It's outlook.
>> Okay. Or not outlook, but whatever.
[26:28] » Yeah, it was supposed to be a special
meeting due to some some circumstances,
[26:31] but it's all in the board packet tonight
and that's why the meeting was canceled.
[26:34] » That's fine.
>> Just
[26:36] user.
>> I 100% agree. It's the user. 100% agree.
[26:41] [laughter] Just fine.
>> I've just never been. It's never cleaned
[26:45] up.
>> Set up Outlook soon. I don't know.
[26:50] I
>> usually can follow them if it's not a
[26:52] bunch of people.
>> Yeah, I'm in it at work all day. Like
[26:54] I'm constantly checking. So yeah, I can
show you how if you want.
[27:00] » Any [clears throat] other questions?
>> What um as long as you're up here? The
[27:03] lighting over at Shelberg.
>> Yes.
[27:06] » What's the equipment there you use to
run it? Is it just a basic time clock?
[27:10] » Yeah. And we've actually gone to even
more simplified uh manual timers.
[27:15] » Okay.
>> Yeah. Um, unfortunately, yeah, we've
[27:17] we've tried some of the higherend stuff
that has failed or has been very
[27:21] technical and very twitchy.
>> Yeah, your basic time clock somebody
[27:24] puts on their pool. It's nice and easy.
>> That's what we have.
[27:27] » Those cells suck.
>> Yeah, we we'll talk about that in that
[27:29] shelber discussion.
[27:35] » Thank you.
>> Thanks.
[27:36] » Thank you.
>> Right. Next up, utilities.
[27:44] » [cough and clears throat]
>> Hey, good evening everybody.
[27:48] So, uh, recent updates to our billing
system. Uh, monthly bills are issued,
[27:52] uh, successfully. Uh, significant
efforts on our utilities clerk made that
[27:56] process really smooth. There's a lot of
technical, uh, uh, detail that goes into
[28:00] that on the back end of our billing
system and she did wonderful with it.
[28:03] Um, we have a couple meters that we need
to follow up and it seems like the
[28:06] signals aren't getting out. Maybe like a
a tin roof situation that uh, might have
[28:10] to move some stuff around. So, we're
still following up with a couple meters
[28:13] on our list. Uh cold weather. This this
was really I don't know. This month was
[28:18] just something because uh we had uh
several light failures in homes. A lot
[28:23] of call outs to shut water off, water
running on basement or you know, burst
[28:27] pipes and things like that. Um more so
than usual, but uh you know, all went
[28:32] really well. We were able to respond
within minutes and get that water shut
[28:35] off uh for the customers. um working
with the treasur to get the annual
[28:39] report, the PSC annual report done and
the audit requests in on a timely
[28:42] fashion
and uh we assisted just this isn't a
[28:47] report but I thought about it when we're
talking about River Street. We assisted
[28:51] with uh the surveying over there opening
the uh the manholes and things of course
[28:55] we we chose like the coldest week of the
year to do that and uh we had snow and
[28:59] so we were busting through ice you know
yay big with SDS's and things and um
[29:03] went well but we we we were kind of
laughing. Of course, this wasn't in the
[29:06] week after when it was supposed to be 30
something degrees. Just seems to be how
[29:10] it goes. Um, Excel Energy blasted us out
of bed at 4:00 in the morning, deciding
[29:14] to load shed. So, I got the cops speed.
It was 28 below when we were here. U
[29:19] [laughter]
program the generator, make sure it's
[29:22] going to run. We are on a load shed
program. So, uh, we need a reduced
[29:26] utility rate if we are able to, uh,
remove the entire plant's load to, uh,
[29:30] our generator power upon request. Um
that is the first time we've been called
[29:34] overnight. Uh I woke up going who who
from a 1-800 number calls at 4:00 in the
[29:41] morning. So found out it was Excel. Uh
that went well. Whole process went well.
[29:46] Um they called again. We had several
several times we had to load shed. So
[29:49] the grid must have been really taxed on
those days where it was so cold out. Any
[29:53] questions on the report?
>> They actually make you answer the phone
[29:57] overnight for that. Like it's in a
contract somewhere.
[30:00] » It's in a contract somewhere.
I've never
[30:03] » penalties if you don't.
>> Huge penalties if you don't. Right.
[30:06] » That's right. So, you save you save
money on your rate, but the penalty if
[30:10] [clears throat] you miss it is is pretty
hefty hefty.
[30:13] » Well, thank you for answering the phone.
>> No problem.
[30:15] » Take that number.
>> Yes, we do. We do have it [laughter]
[30:19] text too. And so I got the text
afterwards and I'm like,
[30:22] » you know, whenever you get, you know, a
phone call in the middle of that, you're
[30:25] going to be disoriented, you know. And
so I was just looking at it. I figured
[30:28] it was a lawn dialer from work.
>> That's when it gets cold. and uh getting
[30:31] called in for you know a water [snorts]
system problem or a sewer system problem
[30:35] or something and uh it was kind of
comical when I saw the 1800 I was like
[30:39] who would that be you know and then yeah
it's two you know one one made two and
[30:44] it was it was accelerating took care of
it so
[30:48] » I was [laughter]
>> that's kind of what I was thinking I was
[30:51] just like what
>> so
[30:56] » I got two things for you
>> sure
[30:57] » thanks for stopping down and talking
Mitch
[30:59] » oh Yeah. Yeah.
>> Um and the schedule values looks good.
[31:03] » Yeah.
>> The billing.
[31:04] » Okay.
>> That [clears throat] actually there's
[31:06] three things. Um
>> the third one, the I happen to be just
[31:10] looking at another SCADA system to bid.
>> Sure.
[31:13] » The it's a couple hundred thousand.
>> Yeah.
[31:16] » And I know you were talking before like
you thought we could get by with doing
[31:19] some band-aids and stuff or where are
you at with that?
[31:22] » Actually, you'll see it at a committee
level is um last time we went to
[31:25] committee we talked about splitting it
out and you know is okay to split this
[31:28] out. We explored that, you know,
basically do what you got to do, Rick.
[31:31] Um, we wanted to explore for
functionality. You know, what we what we
[31:34] lose in our SCADA system as it is is we
don't have no visibility into it. And so
[31:39] we uh after having radio issues over
December over Christmas break and we had
[31:43] to actually send somebody, somebody has
to physically be here to do all of these
[31:46] things versus just checking it on like
an iPad or an iPhone computer at home or
[31:50] something like that. We said, gosh, we
really need some visibility. It's 2026,
[31:54] you know, we need some visibility into
this. So, uh, the original quote, I
[31:58] believe, was 230,000,
but 60,000 of thatish was radios. And
[32:03] so, we were we were pretty on the mark
with that. Um, with the radios
[32:07] themselves, then we split that that
section out and we actually I contacted
[32:11] to uh um like we had talked about a
committee to go through that quote with
[32:15] us, make sure we're moving in the right
direction, the pricing's good,
[32:17] everything's looking good. So, you'll
actually see that committee um if we if
[32:20] we get uh the time to get that all
together by committee. So, so that's
[32:25] what that's where that sits.
>> Just was more I was more than talked
[32:28] about initially and where you're hoping
to get by and it's
[32:30] » I think it's important,
>> right?
[32:32] » Thank you for that. So, we we'll get by.
Uh the the plan right now is to get by
[32:36] with the radios. The radios are are the
the major issue. Whereas, if we have a
[32:40] radio failure, we have to replace all
the PLC's or we have to replace all the
[32:43] radios at the same time. Sorry. We have
to replace all the radios at the same
[32:46] time. If we have a radio failure, we
have a PLC failure, you have to replace
[32:48] the PLC and all the radios at the same
time. So we're buying a little bit of
[32:52] time to explore what do we do with this
SCADA system? What kind of visibility we
[32:55] need to into it? Do we want to add any
functionality? Do we want pressure
[32:58] sensors here? Do we want you know and
part of that is going to be going to
[33:02] other communities and you know that sign
that did significant rec and look at
[33:07] what they have and see how that applies
to us you know within within reason.
[33:11] I still have a lot of security and
things in mind. So there's nothing I'm a
[33:15] big fan of a physical stop. Nothing
really replaces a physical stop on site
[33:19] where you can hear and smell in the
wastewater taste, you know. Uh,
[33:24] » no.
>> I'm still dumbfounded about some of the
[33:27] manual things you guys do down there.
What things that
[33:30] » it is an age?
>> Please tell me you do not taste the
[33:32] water. [laughter]
>> Thank you.
[33:35] » But I will say I will say all of our
operators and myself included, we will
[33:39] walk into the plant and go, "What's
wrong?" We can you can smell it. You can
[33:43] hear it. You get something there's
something going on because you get used
[33:47] to it.
>> Sometime that gets a little unhealthy
[33:50] then you know I don't tasting it.
>> Look like who?
[33:54] » Oh yes. [laughter]
[33:58] » You got the tasting joke right away.
[laughter]
[34:02] » So yeah that's where that sits. We're
looking at doing the radios to get us
[34:05] out of the immediate jam that we're in.
And [clears throat] then okay, how do we
[34:08] get some visibility into this? How are
we bringing the system into the 21st
[34:11] century? The other side of that would
then be to how do we get more visibility
[34:15] into the storage system and things. So
that's that's where that sits.
[34:20] » Yeah, see committee. Thank you guys.
>> Um I've heard a lot of good things about
[34:24] the monthly billing already. So
>> as we have too um it was the monthly
[34:30] billing was a a customercentric
focused initiative. I mean we looked at
[34:36] the system and said we have to
>> my check.
[34:39] » What's that?
>> You want my check? But I think Jen's
[34:41] still here actually. [laughter]
She is inundated with work right now
[34:45] with court and everything too. Um, it
was we we looked at we have to we have
[34:50] to do these meters. They're regulated.
There's something we have to do. What is
[34:53] the value ad for the customer and what
we do? And that's what we always look at
[34:56] that how are we adding value to the
process to the customer and the end
[35:00] user.
>> We've already found some leaks from the
[35:03] system. So it's been
>> just monthly billing. I mean people have
[35:05] caught leaks way faster. We would have
been two months three months throughout.
[35:08] That's a big bonus for sure.
>> We uh one of the pipes that I talked
[35:13] about previously was a broken pipe in
somebody's basement um between two walls
[35:17] where they did they didn't even notice.
I mean they were going through hundreds
[35:20] of cubic feet. Hundreds of cubic feet
>> but took down the milk house. Yep.
[35:24] » That's awesome.
>> Yeah. Catching it fast. Yeah. It's it
[35:28] was really a customer centered push on
that one.
[35:31] » A long process. It's good that you
probably got it.
[35:34] » Yes.
>> Yeah. Yeah. We Yep. We've been planning
[35:36] on that for for a long time. um over 10
years actually. So
[35:40] » definitely a congratulations on that
because that's
[35:42] » yeah hopefully things smooth out after
we get into AC and
[35:46] » yeah AC has taken off. We have you know
well over 100 I just followed up with
[35:50] her on that. Well over 100 people I
haven't yet please
[35:52] » which is which is 10% overall. I mean
that that saves postage that's immediate
[35:57] uh all that that's that's an easy
process. So, um, I've also heard that
[36:02] the monthly billing is is a much more
palatable bill with the average
[36:05] residential is is, uh, well under $100 a
month.
[36:10] » Definitely easy for budgeting and and
making sure that
[36:13] » Thank you for the feedback on that. I'm
going to relay that to to Jen.
[36:16] » Yeah,
>> it's been uh it's been a lot of work.
[36:19] This was this this was a heavy heavy
lift. Um and it will be it will continue
[36:24] to be for the next foreseeable future
until you know things smooth out,
[36:28] processes get, you know, built up and we
get into a rhythmic. Um we're still
[36:33] getting a lot of uh customer questions
that need to be answered. Obviously that
[36:36] is sensitive and takes a lot of um staff
time to do uh to make sure that we're
[36:40] getting people accurate information
timely. Um but all normal things all
[36:44] normal things. So thank you all.
>> Thank you. Anyone else?
[36:51] » Thanks.
All right, next up, library.
[37:00] » Good evening, everyone.
>> Uh, so during January, I attended the
[37:04] two-day Wild Wisconsin winter web
conference via Zoom. And, um, through
[37:09] that, I was able to attend a variety of
presentations ranging from community
[37:13] support to library collections to
programming. And then the last week of
[37:16] the month, I spent u most of my time
working on the library's annual report,
[37:20] which needs to be submitted to the
department of um public instruction
[37:24] before the end of February. In January,
we circulated 3,432
[37:29] items. We had 124 computer uses,
1584 ebook checkouts, and we had 20 new
[37:36] patrons. We added 227 new items to our
shelves for circulation. And most of
[37:42] these were actually books that were
ordered in December, but because um
[37:46] Ingram has so many people that they're
trying to get on board, um they were
[37:50] backlogged and things got backorded. So
we finally got those in January. And I
[37:55] continue to work with if list to set up
EDI, which is our electronic data
[37:59] interchange ordering with Ingram. And
then once that's fully set up, book
[38:05] orders will come directly into our ILS
Sierra, which is if LAS's integrated
[38:10] library system. Um, and it will save a
lot of time for me um saving receiving
[38:15] the books as they come into the library.
Uh, we had many of our regular programs
[38:20] that occurred in January, including tech
help, lunch with the librarian, fiber
[38:24] friends, storytime, Lego, and chess
clubs, and the WNPL book discussion. and
[38:29] I delivered library materials to the
patrons at Evergreen and Millside
[38:32] Apartments and Christian Community Home.
And then we held our first ever craft
[38:37] supply swap where community members
brought their unwanted but usable craft
[38:42] supplies to the library during a
collection period. And then during the
[38:46] swap, those that donated were able to
come that first hour of the swap and um
[38:51] get new supplies and take home. Most of
them said they um had to make promises
[38:56] that they wouldn't bring back home
things that they had originally donated.
[39:01] Um but we had over a hundred people
attend and so this was something that
[39:05] was very popular and thank you Nicole
for coming and helping us set up for
[39:08] that. That was awesome.
>> You going to do that again?
[39:11] » Yes. So we're definitely going to do it
again. Um I think a lot of people think
[39:14] we should do it twice a year. I think
it's probably going to be a once a year
[39:18] endeavor for us. [laughter]
Trying to store um all of the supplies
[39:22] in the library was a little tricky. Um
and then the leftover things were
[39:27] donated to the Halberg Center for the
Arts in Wyoming, Minnesota for their
[39:31] craft supply drive. And I am very happy
to say that the phone drama is finally
[39:37] over. Um
>> Bright Speed finally let go of their
[39:40] number. Huh.
>> Um easy it. [laughter]
[39:44] » Yeah. So, um, Friday our number was
ported over to Evergreen TEL and
[39:49] everything seems to be working well. And
so now it's just a matter of staff
[39:53] learning how to transfer calls and all
of that kind of stuff.
[39:56] » Keep Mike's number handy. He'll answer
calls all the time. He will train you.
[39:59] He's great.
>> He has been awesome through this whole
[40:02] process. And then I just wanted to um
briefly touch on so last month the
[40:08] library board um approved the 2026 2031
um strategic plan. So this is something
[40:15] that we had worked on for um probably
about nine months. Uh we had a um
[40:22] strategic plan committee that worked on
it. So that was made up of myself, Deb
[40:26] Rose, library board member, Michelle
Jacobs, a staff member, Barb Wetzel from
[40:30] the Friends of the Library, and then
Melanie Bazil who is a library patron
[40:35] and community member. Um, so we put a
lot of thought and effort into this. We
[40:40] had a lot of help from the list library
system and Caitlyn from there came um
[40:45] and helped us with that. So if you have
any questions about it, please feel free
[40:51] to come and um visit me at the library.
Um, I don't want to take up a lot of
[40:55] your time here during the meeting
talking about it, but I'm more than
[40:59] happy to discuss what our goals and
activities are over the next five years.
[41:04] So, any questions?
[41:08] » All right. Well, thank you.
>> Thanks, Ann.
[41:12] » All right. Next up, fire.
[41:18] » Hey, everybody. Uh, last month we had 11
runs total. Uh, seven are in the village
[41:24] of Oyola,
two [clears throat] in the town of
[41:27] Farmington, uh, one structure fire, uh,
mutual land with Allied Garfield, and
[41:33] one rescue ice rescue uh, with, uh,
Balden. Um, Brun is, one structure fire,
[41:43] seven medical lift assists,
one ice water rescue, and two alarms.
[41:50] The training for January was we uh
stuffed envelopes and sent out for the
[41:56] fireman's pump and we also did
[clears throat] chimney chimney fire
[42:02] response and training uh upcoming
trainings. Uh we did HIPPA last night
[42:08] and bloodborne pathogens. At the end of
the month we have official elections.
[42:14] And then uh last but not least is
fireman's ball is Saturday night. So,
[42:19] you're all invited. Everybody's invited.
Hopefully, they'll be seeing you there.
[42:25] Any questions?
>> Was the uh was that mutual aid? Was that
[42:28] W?
>> Yes.
[42:30] » Yeah.
>> So, where are the next adjacent fire
[42:33] halls? Dresser
>> dresser and then Garfield was just a
[42:38] block down.
[42:42] » Was that one right in Woo?
>> Yes.
[42:47] » And where's the next one from there?
[42:50] Street
>> and Amry. Yeah.
[42:52] » What's our next one? Like to the south
Somerset.
[42:56] » Yep.
[43:00] » We have any beach laid with those guys
if something happened that direction.
[43:03] » We do.
So
[43:06] » I didn't realize there was one right in
wanderings. I was trying to think about
[43:09] who would get there faster. control
[43:14] is only 10,000 gallons of water stock in
the ground. So they don't have much
[43:20] water take water from
rest.
[43:29] » You got the ball.
>> All right.
[43:32] » Thanks, Paul.
>> Okay. Next up, building inspection and
[43:37] administration. Building inspection is
pretty boring. You got one sprinkler
[43:41] system out in the industrial park for
$80,000 value. Um, usually January is a
[43:46] slow month. Uh, we should be seeing the
building permit for the gun apartment
[43:51] complex shortly. And then um
um some other various ones here and
[43:59] there too. So there's some growth
happening this year which we're excited
[44:01] about. And then I'll dive right into
admin. Uh Eric and I did um a River and
[44:08] Third Street um informational meeting
for the public last week. We had about
[44:12] did you say about 15 people there um
kind of tell them the process that we're
[44:16] going through. Uh the house going to
switch to a oneway from River to third.
[44:22] Um making sure that they're aware that
uh there will be heavy equipment on
[44:26] site. uh we asked to make sure uh if
they're worried about their basement
[44:29] that you know we can go in and take
pictures ahead of time making sure
[44:32] everything is when they're done the
exact same way as when it started so
[44:35] there's no impact there and just kind of
give them the timeline of potential
[44:39] dates. We won't have a secured timeline
until we have a contractor selected
[44:44] after this bid process happens uh which
we should be starting tonight. Um but
[44:48] overall good feedback. They appreciated
the the meeting to be to be listened to
[44:53] and for us to present. Uh Todd and I and
Eric attended the Verizon tower
[45:00] pre-construction meeting over in Noki
Park. Um they should be he said March
[45:05] 1st they should be starting on that
police started pouring footings. So
[45:09] sometime in March we can expect that. Um
the buildout of the tower itself is only
[45:13] 30 days, but after that Verizon takes
their time to get or Dolan in this case
[45:18] takes their time to get the the antenna
stuff up. So we're still looking a few
[45:21] months out from the overall full install
of that tower.
[45:25] » Any intrusion with regard to the Braves
practice schedule
[45:28] » shouldn't be on that. No, they should be
done by the time the construction of the
[45:31] tower should be done by the time
>> but the installation of the radio. So
[45:34] there's a ladder truck there, I'm
assuming.
[45:36] » Uh it should happen during the daytime,
your normal work hours. So should have
[45:40] no impact on the Braves. They're aware
of that it being an existing ball field.
[45:43] So we can always put conditions on that
too. But I don't foresee any any lapse
[45:48] or
>> lap of of services there.
[45:51] » They're local contact with Verizon that
you can maybe forward to the board in
[45:54] case we get customer Dolan realy because
they're they're the lees actually Dolan
[45:59] owns it and they lease it out to Verizon
and Dolan's based out of Missouri. Uh
[46:03] their contractor was building it though
is local. I was thinking more so if
[46:07] community residents come to us and say,
"How do we get in touch with Verizon
[46:10] about getting started with them now that
there's a tower in town?" Like that's
[46:14] what I wanted to know.
>> Your local Verizon shop, whatever that
[46:16] would be, I'm guessing. But um when it
goes live, I'll let you know. But right
[46:20] now, it's kind of at the mercy of Dolan
and their contractor.
[46:23] » And the timeline with uh storm siren
folks that
[46:28] » Well, that's the next thing. We just met
with them last week. So, we'll get that
[46:31] lined up to making sure that when the
tower is up, then we can get it
[46:34] installed. Great to have a siren in
place for storm season.
[46:37] » Yeah.
>> Yep.
[46:40] » We'll get that lined up so we can
install it on on the site.
[46:44] » Um
start start of the new year. I've been
[46:47] reached out to by two Minnesota
businesses looking to come across the
[46:51] border. Uh some of the political
landscape over there has opened up their
[46:55] eyes and potentially coming to Wisconsin
for a relocation. I am currently in
[47:00] communication with them looking for
sites. Um the good news is the village
[47:04] does own a few parts of land that we can
help uh get these uh businesses
[47:09] hopefully over into Oyola which would be
a big boost for for us and for our
[47:13] population at hand and potentially
creating lots of jobs. One of them is a
[47:17] 250 person employer. So there are some
hefty hefty employment numbers from some
[47:22] of these these companies looking to move
over. Uh these should be these will be
[47:27] active um recruitment. So a lot of other
business or cities, Hudson, St. Croy
[47:33] Falls, they're looking at they want to
dip their toe in Wisconsin, not go all
[47:37] the way in. So here we're good good
situated for that as we're close to a
[47:41] lot of the population bases that they
want to be close to.
[47:46] Uh planning commission is undertaking uh
chapter 219 revisions, which is our
[47:51] zoning, which involves commercial,
industrial, and residential. Uh we've
[47:55] been getting input into that uh of what
we'd like to see changed. As we change
[48:01] it, uh we'll be running through some of
the ordinances and bring them to the
[48:04] board probably towards the end of the
year. It's a very um labor intensive
[48:08] process for me. Uh and then and getting
their feedback and trying to wrap that
[48:13] into a coherent ordinance is a is a very
big undertaking. And a lot of this is
[48:19] being driven from our comprehensive
plan. Uh that's generally the process
[48:22] that you do is you approve the
comprehensive plan and then you try to
[48:26] implement the comprehensive plan into
your zoning and that's one of those
[48:29] things we're looking at doing making
sure that uh are the items in the
[48:34] comprehensive plan something we want to
enforce or just have it as guidelines.
[48:37] So that that's kind of what we're going
through right now as planning commission
[48:40] level and as we get further along the
board will be involved in the approval
[48:44] process once the ordinances go further.
Uh prep preparations are well underway
[48:49] for the elections. Carrie's been running
her new Badger books, making sure
[48:53] they're updated uh for the election
coming up. Is it April 4th? 7th. April
[48:58] 7th is the election date. So, there will
be a new um system for checking in when
[49:03] you vote this year. Uh it should go a
lot smoother and faster for for
[49:06] check-ins and we're excited about that.
And you guys have some trains coming up
[49:09] too, right?
Uh the ice rink is open as we mentioned.
[49:14] Um we finally got that open. The weather
allowed it. So, thank you Todd for
[49:18] getting that going. Uh the Whispering
Acres PUD, which is south of the
[49:22] airport, is under contract by a new
developer, so we might be seeing some um
[49:27] headway with that very soon. The PUD was
approved. Um so they still have to
[49:33] operate within the PUB guidelines. Um so
we might see a development or at least a
[49:38] plat coming forward in the next coming
months for that uh with
[49:42] » that would go to plan first, right?
>> Yep. With a new with a new developer. So
[49:46] that's [clears throat] that's exciting
to have. Um
[49:50] this month we're having a stakeholder
meeting for Shelberg Park about how we
[49:53] want to improve that park and make it
into um a more accessible
[49:59] um installation whether it be for
walking, running, biking. Uh we invited
[50:03] some of the local biking groups, trail
running groups, the school, the boy
[50:08] scouts. So we should have a pretty good
idea of what we want to do with that
[50:11] park. Um the OciOla Trails and Parks
Committee is looking for a project uh
[50:16] and spend some of the resources on. So,
this is really what led this is they
[50:20] want to know what they can provide their
money for to help projects and this is
[50:23] kind of going to be the steering for
that of what projects we'd like to see
[50:26] in Schillberg Park. U making sure it's
going to be a wellused park. We saw how
[50:31] important is to design something for
people that are going to use it that
[50:34] they design it. Uh the skate park is a
prime example of that. I saw kids uh
[50:38] skateboarding there on Monday, just
yesterday. I think it was warm out and
[50:43] they're already using the skate park. So
if you build it for people that are
[50:46] going to use it, it will be used. So
it's important that we listen to the
[50:50] stakeholders when we design Schillberg
Park. Uh they're also working on the
[50:54] Ocio trails and committee is also
working on Austria Creek Trail. Uh it's
[50:59] currently DNR own land. I should be
getting a resolution from the DNR
[51:03] shortly allowing the village to have an
easement on their property uh to allow
[51:07] the Ocio Trails and Parks Group to
conduct bog bridges along along the
[51:12] creek. Uh part of that project too is
Cedar Ben is interested in potentially
[51:17] building a pedestrian bridge across
OciOla Creek 2, which would then allow
[51:21] us greater access to the parking lot
behind the busy bean. Uh so it kind of
[51:26] brings in Eric's nice comment of making
that lot more available to people. Um
[51:32] that we're working together trying to
find many people to allow us to do these
[51:35] type of projects. As we all know, funds
are always tight for these for um
[51:40] unbudgeted items. So, we're grateful for
all the support that these groups are
[51:44] willing to provide to make our parks
much more um vibrant.
[51:51] And then I want to thanks admin for
taking all the tax collection for the
[51:55] month. They do a great job. And uh we
should be settling up with the county
[51:59] either this week or next week, the rest
of the taxing jurisdiction. So, we'll be
[52:02] writing some big checks the next few
weeks to the county, the school
[52:05] district, and the tech school. Any
questions on the admin report?
[52:10] » I got a couple. I was holding them until
the end. Sorry. So, I'm going to go
[52:17] » I ask I'll ask a quick question before.
>> Thank you for doing that. Um with the
[52:22] parking utilization behind um busy bean
if that comes to fruition. Um can we
[52:28] make sure that we're talking to the bid
about that as well for um see if they
[52:32] want to have any action into that
>> uh to to pave it and make it flatter?
[52:37] Yeah, that's the biggest problem we have
right now is and I know they have some
[52:40] money that they're willing to do. Um
once they have a new hopefully new
[52:43] director in place shortly, uh we can get
that conversation rolling again.
[52:47] » That's got like 30 grand or something,
right?
[52:50] » Uh more than that.
>> Okay. It was a big number.
[52:53] » Yeah, it's it's far more than that. Um
>> I'm going off of memory.
[52:56] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Because Wyatt and I were in
[52:58] conversation already about what what to
do with that parking space.
[53:02] » Um back to River Street. I remember Eric
you talked about doing some surveys or
[53:07] having a contingency for surveying money
along there. What was it? Do you
[53:11] remember why we have a concern about
where
[53:14] » Yeah, there was
>> things were
[53:16] » it came up at one of the early meetings
that the the property lines were
[53:21] incorrect at one of the parsons
>> for an outfall.
[53:26] » Yeah. And that's what what it was too.
And uh you know, we've now we're looking
[53:32] at multiple outfalls. We're actually
looking at eliminating two of them um
[53:38] with this project, creating a new one,
and hopefully eliminating a third one
[53:42] future, all on private property right
now. So, it clicked in my head because
[53:48] you talked about doing project
documentation and taking photos. Um, I
[53:52] think that I'm going to guess there's
going to be some pretty deep excavation
[53:57] out along River Street and having
impacting people and I'm sure we're
[54:01] going to get JNS is going to get poked
at or we'll get drugged into claims that
[54:05] old basement are jiggling around and
rocks are falling out.
[54:08] » That's exactly what I want with the
documentation.
[54:10] » Yeah, you said it loosely. I'd highly
highly highly say we go into any
[54:16] basement.
Great idea. you know. So, I brought that
[54:20] up at the public involvement meeting and
uh I
[54:25] basically requested that we be able to
do it. They were willing to let us in
[54:29] and and document it before work is done
just so you can be sure
[54:33] » and it's for their own good. So,
>> yeah.
[54:36] » The church was
>> open to it. They wanted to do it.
[54:40] » Where did we leave off with the sidewalk
on gone side? Who owns that? Who's going
[54:45] to own the any is there street lighting
going in there? So, there's street
[54:49] lighting that's going in. Um,
>> is this on the agenda? Is this on the
[54:52] agenda later?
>> Yeah, we can wait.
[54:54] » We can wait. Perfect. That's fine. Um,
Verizon tower. Did you ever meet with
[54:58] that homeowner and talk about the all
the vegetation that's got to come down?
[55:02] » We we did mention that the trees are
going to have to come in. So, we will
[55:04] have to talk to him about um cuz it will
force if the trees got to come down, it
[55:09] will be on the the developers or the the
builder's cost to to build take those
[55:13] trees down
>> as long as the whole
[55:15] » cuz right now uh we don't have to cut it
down to the property line, but the tree
[55:19] is dead anyways.
>> There's a lot there.
[55:21] » So, um I'm going to talk to the property
owner and just make sure that we can
[55:24] just remove them on on the cost of
Dolan. Uh and then and then the property
[55:28] owner doesn't have to worry about taking
down his own trees. I don't want us
[55:31] getting stuck with a half a tree later
because they only did part of it and all
[55:35] » that was brought up at our pre-con
meeting.
[55:38] [clears throat]
[snorts] Um
[55:42] the Shelberg Park I think the park group
is great. I just I in the back of my
[55:48] mind I think about all the times we've
given parks to other entities. They've
[55:51] done work and then can't maintain it. Um
it and that's a big undertaking for
[55:57] them. You know there's other trails in
town and they seem to hold up okay. I
[56:00] don't know what Todd's impact is for
long-term maintenance on them. That's
[56:04] just a bigger bite.
>> Yeah, we we're making sure that we get
[56:06] we just want to get feedback of what
people want and then from there really
[56:10] see what the feasibility of those type
of projects are. Uh for instance, trail
[56:13] running is as simple as having basically
a groom trail, a dirt trail. Um they
[56:19] just want markers like half mile,
quarter mile, whatever it might be. If
[56:22] it's that all they want, that's an easy
undertaking to do
[56:24] » as long as it maintains.
>> In terms of building structures for like
[56:28] um single track mountain biking, that is
a far bigger undertaking. I do agree
[56:32] with that.
>> Okay. As long as Perfect. the the bog
[56:37] bridge, the um the stuff behind uh
we'll just say by the the lower mill
[56:44] pond, what what is uh what's the
church's involvement in it? The church
[56:49] has expressed interest to build a
pedestrian bridge. Uh unrelated, but
[56:53] we're trying to tie that in with them,
too. Uh in the past, they have they've
[56:57] uh said that they'd be willing to talk
about potentially pedestrian bridge
[57:01] there because they have a lot of people
that come to that little corner church
[57:04] there and it be easier and it' be easier
parking everybody else.
[57:08] » Okay. And then
the DNR property, is that just related
[57:12] to the
>> the bog bridge I was talking about? Uh
[57:15] because they want to do it all along the
creek. the village only owns up to a
[57:19] certain point. So the DNR has to give
the village access to do it, which then
[57:24] we will give anou with the trails group.
So we have to be the entity that allows
[57:28] it though. Uh so that's where it gets
gets a little confusing.
[57:31] » But I'm looking at the GIS right now.
The DNR property doesn't start until you
[57:36] get quite a ways back to the northeast.
>> Yep. I just had a meeting with them want
[57:40] the bridge to be up that far.
>> No, no, that's different. The bridge is
[57:44] going to cross where the busy bean is.
They're creating a bog bridge along the
[57:47] creek side. So So you can do a have a
walking path around it.
[57:50] » So is there a So it's not a bridge to
the other side.
[57:54] » Um at at what they're proposing right
now, that would not be the bridge.
[57:57] That's why I said those are those are
two different
[57:59] » two different bridges.
>> Two different bridges type things. Yeah.
[58:01] » So who's going to build a bridge across
the creek?
[58:04] » That that would be potentially Cedar
Bend and the Trails Group.
[58:07] » Okay. So they're still looking at
>> Okay. But neither the DNR would be
[58:11] involved because of the creek side.
>> Yeah. I was blending some things
[58:14] together there.
>> It's it's um once again all this might
[58:18] not happen. We're just in communication
with all the
[58:20] » I think everybody would be in favor of a
bridge and utilizing
[58:25] area.
Um okay, that might be it. Hang on.
[58:29] Maybe turn the next page.
[58:36] I think that's it. Thanks. Anybody else
have any questions for Devon on the
[58:43] » Oh, I had one more question.
>> Sorry. Because it wasn't on this list.
[58:47] Um I thought it was in one of your
weekly emails. It actually I looked
[58:51] back. It was in Todd's.
>> There was a pending meeting with the
[58:54] fair board. Oh, I I couldn't make it. I
was dealing with this really bad that
[59:00] week. So, I did meet with Brandon from
the fair board and I said that the
[59:04] village is is all in favor of helping
however we can to make this the best
[59:08] event for everyone. I expressed that the
village wants to work with the fair
[59:12] board uh just as long as we we plan to
have a pre-sight meeting sometime in a
[59:16] in April or May to really realign out
where the parking is going to be and
[59:20] those type of things. But we really want
to meet earlier. Um I really wanted to
[59:25] make the meeting. Unfortunately, I had
no voice so I couldn't even speak. Um,
[59:28] but I did relay that to Brandon uh with
the fair board about our willingness to
[59:33] work with them and that we want to make
sure this the best event for the public.
[59:35] I 100% agree early. I'd like to see you
do March so you could come back to us in
[59:39] April and then there's can be some
banter back and forth. I'd hate to have
[59:42] this wait till April, May, and then not
us on the board not hear about it until
[59:46] August and then all of a sudden boom,
it's September.
[59:48] » Yeah. And we realize too that we they
they also realize too that they have to
[59:52] submit their permit earlier so we can
get notes to them way ahead of time too.
[59:56] uh they can't submit it in July like
last year.
[59:59] » That's the same with every veter.
>> Yeah.
[1:00:01] » Well, especially one that brings in
thousands of people, [clears throat]
[1:00:04] » you know. Okay. If we can get I don't if
that can be a topic maybe for maybe Todd
[1:00:09] your report next month or something. I'd
like to keep tracking it. Good for
[1:00:14] everybody. Okay. No, I'm done. Promise.
[1:00:20] Else.
All right. Thanks, Devin. Uh 5B is not
[1:00:26] applicable. So we're going to move to
item six on the agenda, which is the
[1:00:30] public hearing portion of our meeting to
accept written and oral testimony
[1:00:34] regarding village ordinance 2601. We're
going to be amending chapter 2011, the
[1:00:38] utility to add article 6, storm water
utility to the village code.
[1:00:45] At this point, we are open to accept
written and oral testimony from anybody
[1:00:50] as uh a public hearing. I don't Do we
need a motion to open this public
[1:00:54] hearing?
>> Yes, please.
[1:00:56] » I make a motion.
[1:01:01] » And I'll second. [laughter]
[1:01:05] » Have a motion by Mike and a second by
Nicole.
[1:01:08] » Open the public hearing.
>> To open the public hearing. All those in
[1:01:10] favor say I.
>> I.
[1:01:12] » I. Both say no. All right, we are open.
[1:01:20] Kimmel County, 5043rd Avenue.
On your key points here on this, you're
[1:01:27] going to set a uh another resolution for
the amount
[1:01:32] of what this storm is going to cost us.
Why isn't that in here? We don't know
[1:01:35] what the cost is. So, you're going to
pass a resolution and not tell us what
[1:01:39] the cost is.
[1:01:43] That's later. But, I mean, why? It could
be any amount then. Why would we pass
[1:01:47] something and we not know what we're
going to get charged?
[1:01:50] I don't understand why that isn't in
there.
[1:01:54] Uh [groaning]
that to me didn't seem right that we
[1:01:58] that you didn't set uh what the rates
were or anything which should be easy to
[1:02:03] set cuz when it first come out you said
275 $2.75 and stuff but now
[1:02:11] could be 10 times that. It could be the
same as the water bill could be 60 bucks
[1:02:15] a month 80 bucks. So, I don't know why
you should pass that. And then I think
[1:02:20] on the end where it says uh when you
have an administrative appeal, you
[1:02:25] should maybe talk to your corp council.
Shouldn't that go through the BOA?
[1:02:29] Usually an administrative appeal goes to
a board of adjustments.
[1:02:34] So, that's all I have. Thank you.
[1:02:38] » Thanks, Kim.
[1:02:45] 5B. Uh, it said that there was no report
for the Oola Wisconsin Main Street. It
[1:02:49] said NA on the Yeah, it said NA on the
[1:02:55] Sorry.
Anybody else on public hearing?
[1:03:02] I'll entertain a motion to close it.
>> Public hearing.
[1:03:05] » Second it.
>> Okay. A motion by Mike and a second by
[1:03:09] Nicole to close public hearing. All
those in favor say I. I. Post say no.
[1:03:14] Motion carries. All right. After that is
6A, any action that we may take on the
[1:03:22] public hearing. And
I think that uh Kim brings up a good
[1:03:27] point, but I think we also don't we have
a rate schedule at the back of our
[1:03:30] village code, which is why we wouldn't
put it here.
[1:03:36] We would add this part to village code,
but then we also have a rate and fee
[1:03:39] schedule that gets monitored.
>> Yeah. resolution. I
[1:03:43] » was going to say we're going to have
another resolution to take that and put
[1:03:45] that into the P schedule, right? At the
end of our code. Yeah.
[1:03:48] » Yeah. So, this is the the ordinance to
be able to create the utility um but
[1:03:53] doesn't set the rates. Uh
[clears throat] so, I'll just kick us
[1:03:57] off here a little bit, but apologize. Um
my colleague Emily wasn't able to be
[1:04:02] here tonight. A personal item came up.
Um, we have online Lily Hawk who is
[1:04:08] involved with Emily on the the creation
of the utility and and [snorts] both the
[1:04:13] writing of the ordinance and also some
of the background information, some
[1:04:16] stuff that we talked about before with
with setting rates and and how all that
[1:04:21] works. So
um I don't know specifics you want to to
[1:04:26] go through but this is basically
creation of the utility rates as we
[1:04:31] mentioned um would be set as part of a
separate resolution and we did talk
[1:04:36] about rates specifically
like at last month's
[1:04:40] » yeah it was a recommendation to do the
275 with the averages that was Emily
[1:04:46] » would that would that additional
resolution be something that would also
[1:04:49] go through public hearing then before
being adopted.
[1:04:52] » Resolutions do not need a public
hearing, but we can host we can host
[1:04:55] one.
>> Okay. I I mean, given the fact that
[1:04:58] there's expressed interest, I would
think that that would be reasonable. So,
[1:05:01] » there's been some really good discussion
on it, and I think Todd did a pretty
[1:05:04] good analysis of
get making an assumption of what he
[1:05:08] could spend in a year. And I think
everybody's conversation in those
[1:05:11] meetings about it talked about let's try
it for a year. Um, your staff did a
[1:05:16] great job of giving us a range of
numbers. We picked something in the
[1:05:18] middle to try it. Um, it hasn't been
fixed in a while, so I think there's
[1:05:24] probably an outstanding need. So, worst
case, we're heck, we're consent too
[1:05:28] high. I'm sure Todd can find a place to
fix it.
[1:05:31] » Oh, yeah. We have far over severe
repairs to do. Um, we're we're probably,
[1:05:37] you know, two $300,000 of repairs that
we we could do right now if we wanted
[1:05:42] to.
>> I approve worse things
[1:05:45] » and it's we're easing into this. So
>> as in this ordinance um it talks about
[1:05:52] calculating fees and the method that's
listed here is what
[1:05:58] » uh the
person went through with us both at the
[1:06:03] hearing Nicole and I were at and at the
board meeting last month.
[1:06:07] » Right.
>> 275
[1:06:10] was calculated using this method.
>> It's like 250 to three bucks.
[1:06:14] » Yeah. We had a we had that range of of
what where to be at and yeah that was
[1:06:20] » so I I guess my point is the likelihood
that it's suddenly going to become $80
[1:06:26] is not really
>> for a residential home
[1:06:31] » because a residential is one unit which
would be the minimum.
[1:06:34] » We have a close ballpark figure based on
calculations used by the Yeah.
[1:06:44] Uh this ordinance would start would have
a start date for the utility of April
[1:06:50] [clears throat] 15th. So it' be on the
May utility bill
[1:06:53] » and we would need to set and adopt
another ordinance for rates
[1:06:59] » another rate another resolution to
establish rates before this comes into
[1:07:03] effect anyway. Right.
>> First we need to approve the ordinance
[1:07:06] before we get into the rates.
>> Have to add it to the code first. So,
[1:07:10] okay. I will entertain a motion to adopt
this ordinance.
[1:07:14] Thank you, Ron.
>> Is there a second?
[1:07:17] » Thank you, Arvid. We have a motion and a
second to adopt
[1:07:21] ordinance 261.
It's first one of the year. All those in
[1:07:26] favor say I.
>> I. Post say no.
[1:07:30] » Motion carries. Mo and ordinance is
adopted. So, yeah. Could you please make
[1:07:34] sure that we get a public hearing on the
next item that we do related to rates?
[1:07:43] Okay. Uh that takes care of item six,
public hearing. We're moving to seven
[1:07:49] other business discussion and possible
action regarding 7A MPS mark MPS parking
[1:07:53] enforcement safety sticks. [laughter]
Excuse me. [clears throat] Sorry.
[1:07:59] Mike on there.
[1:08:09] I can't read those names.
>> Mike Asher.
[1:08:13] » Yeah. Mike, can you hear us?
>> Yeah, I can hear you.
[1:08:17] » Uh, are you you presenting a PowerPoint
from your screen or you want me to run
[1:08:20] through the PowerPoint on the packet?
>> Yeah. Why don't you run through it on
[1:08:25] your side? I've got uh Jason Flam is
with us as well. I think he's going to
[1:08:28] kick it off for us. Okay.
>> All right. Uh, you're up.
[1:08:39] » Jason,
[1:08:52] Jason, we can't hear you.
Muted.
[1:08:58] Apparently,
[1:09:02] he's gone awall on us.
>> I think I hit
[1:09:05] » He's muted. Can you unmute him?
[1:09:13] » No, we should be good.
>> Can you guys hear me?
[1:09:16] » Yeah, Jason,
>> apologize. I had some uh technical
[1:09:19] difficulties there, but uh yeah, thank
you for the opportunity to um uh to
[1:09:24] speak to you all today. Appreciate it.
Um, so Devon, I think I I can't see what
[1:09:30] you're showing on the screen, but I
think what I'll do is I'll give you just
[1:09:33] the the very quick overview of of MPS
and then take you guys
[1:09:37] » I have your whole presentation here, so
if you just keep going from the start to
[1:09:40] the finish, we should be fine.
>> Okay. So maybe just to kick it off,
[1:09:46] introduce myself and Mike. So, um, I've
been with the MPS for the last, uh, 13
[1:09:52] years and head up corporate development
and, uh, a lot of the strategy, uh,
[1:09:57] initiatives. Uh, Mike, who also is on
the call, um, really heads up our
[1:10:02] customer success and operations within
MPS. Um so [clears throat] MPS the quick
[1:10:10] commercial um we've been doing vision
based technologies for the last uh 12 or
[1:10:17] 13 years really were a pioneer in
developing this technology and and
[1:10:21] patenting it. And really what it's all
about is uh monitoring
[1:10:27] uh parking environments and at the end
of the day um monitoring and enforcing
[1:10:33] rules that cities put in place. It's
really as as simple as that. So we use
[1:10:38] our vision technologies in in parking
envir in parking lots on street
[1:10:43] environments and in this case if I think
the focus initially is on um restricted
[1:10:48] parking areas areas that you are never
supposed to park in and create candidly
[1:10:54] safety hazards. Um when folks park in a
crosswalk it obstructs uh uh other
[1:11:01] vehicles views. if you park in front of
a fire hydrant, uh there's obvious
[1:11:05] safety uh concerns there as well. So,
you know, our technologies have been
[1:11:11] kind of battle tested throughout the
United States. We're in over 37 cities,
[1:11:17] uh over a thousand locations. Um really
have touched uh many different use
[1:11:22] cases. there's very few use cases that
we haven't been able to effectively
[1:11:26] address, but at the end of the day, you
know, our our service is really around
[1:11:31] um adapting to the the rules and and uh
challenges that that cities have using
[1:11:38] uh technology. So, in the case of um uh
Acyola, you know, we've had the chance
[1:11:44] to to to walk the streets and and listen
to some of the city's uh challenges and
[1:11:49] and and goals, and we've come up with a
a proposal that u um you've
[1:11:55] [clears throat] all probably had a
chance to look at, but I I'll be happy
[1:11:57] to kind of walk you through the the
highlights. So,
[1:12:02] um,
what what comes as a surprise to to to
[1:12:06] most cities and and even private
operators that we work with is is a is a
[1:12:12] a challenge or behavior or
uh uh an issue that that most cities
[1:12:18] don't know that they actually have. And
and what is that? That's the the the
[1:12:23] fact that there's a shocking amount of
of bad behavior in parking. Um that may
[1:12:28] may surprise some, maybe not others, but
we we've been able to demonstrate uh
[1:12:34] over the last 10 years and tens of
millions of parking sessions that in in
[1:12:37] in many parking environments
a very high portion of of people that
[1:12:43] park are are not following the the
rules. Um, and you know, by our our
[1:12:48] statistics, in in many instances, it's
as high as 40% of the people are staying
[1:12:53] well beyond, you know, the stated uh uh
timelines or um failing to pay what they
[1:12:58] should or or parking in in in dangerous
settings that frankly you should never
[1:13:04] park in like a fire hydrant. Um, so what
we've done is is taken a take a stab at
[1:13:10] uh laying out, you know, what would our
technology look like across um Oyola. Um
[1:13:15] just as a as a first blush we you know
we uh uh took some liberties to say all
[1:13:21] right what if we used our whole
portfolio of technologies to really
[1:13:24] address holistically the whole whole
city. Obviously [snorts] we we um don't
[1:13:29] need to do that. We can do just
subsegments of it. But with for the
[1:13:34] uh illustrative purposes here we we did
um show what it would look like if if we
[1:13:39] laid out the technology across the city.
And I'll start real quickly and kind of
[1:13:43] go through this, but uh on Cascade
Street, the main street, uh what we
[1:13:49] proposed, uh in order to monitor your
2-hour time limits was to to put up, uh
[1:13:54] a handful of uh overhead cameras um that
[snorts] basically monitor vehicles as
[1:14:00] they enter and exit that twob block
area. And um the policies today is is a
[1:14:08] two-hour time limit. So we would uh flag
any vehicles that stayed within that
[1:14:14] zone longer than 2 hours. Um when that
happens uh using our you know al
[1:14:20] algorithms and AI and also human
verification we then you know submit a a
[1:14:26] a uh uh a violation notice for
representative of the city to to review
[1:14:33] with them um and and uh hit hit the go
or no go button. And so at the end of
[1:14:38] the day, it's really um left to you uh
to decide um is this a valid violation
[1:14:44] or not? And and do you want to enforce
it? Um we provide the tools um uh for
[1:14:50] you to do so and and all the the
verification and and backup
[1:14:56] um documentation for that. So zone one
or the the first pass was looking at
[1:15:01] just just monitoring that two-hour uh
maximum stay limit. The second pass was
[1:15:08] taking a look at uh um you know the kind
of what we call restricted parking areas
[1:15:13] or or no parking areas. So a handful of
of uh fire hydrants, crosswalks
[1:15:19] um that typically or historically have
been abused. Um, and so that's the
[1:15:26] second pass here. And then the third
pass was all right. You know, looking
[1:15:31] forward uh uh taking a pass at at
monitoring the uh time limits in in
[1:15:38] various parking lot settings.
So, I don't think we need to kind of
[1:15:42] dive into all all of the uh uh pictures
here, but you can see as you page
[1:15:46] through um you know, we superimposed
what where the cameras would be ideally
[1:15:51] placed and [clears throat] the areas of
interest that the uh the cameras would
[1:15:56] be focused on.
So again, I think at at the end of the
[1:16:00] day, um we've we've, you know, been um
had the the good fortune of dealing with
[1:16:06] a lot of different cities, all different
sizes, other cities within uh Wisconsin.
[1:16:11] Um and each city is a little bit
different and each city has their own
[1:16:15] pain points. But I think the the beauty
of our system, it allows um uh us to
[1:16:20] address most of those pain points. As I
mentioned before, I think there's very
[1:16:24] few few instances where we haven't found
a creative way to um kind of match our
[1:16:29] technology with your your needs to um
change behavior. So, at the end of the
[1:16:33] day, again, uh enforcement is a tool to
change behavior, bad behavior, whether
[1:16:40] that's uh parking in places you
shouldn't park or parking beyond the
[1:16:45] length of stay that you are allowed to
park. So the key um to a lot of downtown
[1:16:51] areas and main streets is is turnover.
And we hear this from you know most of
[1:16:56] the cities we work with that turnover is
is the um key component to um creating
[1:17:05] open space and parking availability for
for parking patrons of of the
[1:17:09] businesses. What we find and this is
comes at as a surprise to a lot of
[1:17:14] cities as we you know do do pilots who
are going to production is that we find
[1:17:19] that um a lot a significant number of
cars stay well beyond that 2hour
[1:17:25] [snorts] maximum stay and then diving a
little bit deeper under the covers it
[1:17:29] turns out that in many cities it's
actually the employees in many cases
[1:17:34] that are staying and taking up valuable
parking spaces and parking on on Main
[1:17:39] Street And in fact, they probably are
better suited and um uh to to park in
[1:17:45] the parking lots or you know save that
valuable space for patrons. So it really
[1:17:50] is about creating space turnover and and
parking availability for patrons of
[1:17:56] businesses. Um that's kind of the
fundamental tenant of of of enforcement
[1:18:00] and and consistent enforcement is really
the only way uh to change behavior. So,
[1:18:06] our system obviously uh uses vision
based cameras to monitor 247 and and
[1:18:13] provide that um consistent enforcement
that you know really is not possible
[1:18:18] with manual um feet on the street. So,
that's kind of the the quick overview.
[1:18:25] Um hopefully I didn't uh take too much
of your time, but really appreciate it
[1:18:29] and uh happy to address any questions
that you may have.
[1:18:34] I understand this technology, right?
Using the liquor store parking lot, you
[1:18:39] must read a license plate on the way in
and then measure when it leaves. That
[1:18:43] accurate?
>> That's correct.
[1:18:47] » Out of that liquor store parking lot, I
think the village owns 19 spots, right?
[1:18:53] Some of the ballpark. Yes. What do we do
with the other 17? Uh, it would come
[1:18:58] down to the uses of what they're going
to be. Um the the parking lots. Yeah.
[1:19:04] And um the people who live there would
be absolutely exempt from it because you
[1:19:07] would put their license plate into it.
Uh the parking lot is also one of those
[1:19:11] areas where they're just showing what
you can do. Uh tonight is the kind of
[1:19:14] proposal of looking getting direction
from board. This is something they even
[1:19:17] want the appetite for. At the November
board meeting, uh there was a motion
[1:19:21] saying at least let's explore this what
it might look like and ideas. Tonight's
[1:19:25] not tying you to any decision
whatsoever. more or less learning how
[1:19:28] the system works and if we want to go
further down to figure out if this is
[1:19:32] something we want to explore. Um it was
originally brought up as a safety issue
[1:19:36] of of I wanted to explore around
hydrants crosswalks um and potential
[1:19:41] dangerous issues to make sure that we we
are really um protecting our citizens
[1:19:45] with the crosswalks especially what
happened uh we've had two incidences of
[1:19:49] pedestrians can hit this summer or this
year. So, one of those things you have a
[1:19:53] camera on it, you can see more
information to and providing those kind
[1:19:55] of things. And then the police wanted to
look at the avenue of enforcing our own
[1:19:59] existing ordinances that we currently
have that are not practical for us to
[1:20:03] enforce as as they are now is they're
way too labor intensive to be even
[1:20:08] actively enforced. So, it was kind of a
manyful thing of why we're looking at
[1:20:11] doing this. Um, and tonight is really
kind of, you know, getting direction to
[1:20:17] something we want to look at, not look
at. what scope do you want to to
[1:20:20] continue down? Um, so all these
questions are relevant in that in that
[1:20:24] discussion that you're having and you
are right that people would have to like
[1:20:29] especially the private residences either
you they have to validate or they're the
[1:20:33] license plate would have to be on record
where they're exempt from all from all
[1:20:37] meters going in and out.
>> Well, to that one in particular, Frank
[1:20:41] and Michelle at the dry cleaners own
one, two, three, four, five or six of
[1:20:46] them and they wouldn't have residents.
they'd have transient people.
[1:20:50] Um, let's go back to a fun a big picture
question. So, Eric reminded us in June
[1:20:56] that we were going to table this until
after the bridge. How did it end up on
[1:20:59] the November meeting?
>> Let me let me address that. These are
[1:21:02] two separate issues. We tabled we tabled
the twohour or the the parking meter
[1:21:09] parking until after the bridge. This
what we're looking at now is an existing
[1:21:13] ordinance been on book for over 30 years
for two-hour parking. And over the last
[1:21:19] 18 years or whatever 15 years while I
was at the village, we did write parking
[1:21:24] tickets, but back then the parking
tickets were $5 and $10 each. You have
[1:21:28] to mark the tires, come back two and a
half hours later to make sure two hours
[1:21:32] had passed, make sure the vehicle hadn't
moved, and then take at least 10 or 15
[1:21:35] minutes to write a ticket for a$5 or $10
ticket. And we had businesses, in fact,
[1:21:40] up until I retired, we had businesses
that still called and said, "I'm tired
[1:21:43] of these vehicles parking in front of my
business for hours on end and forced to
[1:21:47] our parking." We would try to do it, but
it came down to manpower, staffing,
[1:21:51] everything else. A few years ago, we up
the parking, no parking violations to
[1:21:56] $30 a ticket. Most cities, it's 70, 80,
$90 a ticket, right? It still comes down
[1:22:02] to manpower. We haven't had enough
officers to fill shifts, let alone come
[1:22:06] out and work enforcement and parking
enforcement for for these businesses who
[1:22:11] didn't want vehicles parked out in front
of their business all day. Right. This
[1:22:15] is an existing ordinance. It's been on
the book for over 30 years. We have
[1:22:19] enforced it when we could. We've had
requests to enforce it. And now with
[1:22:22] technology, we can enforce it. And I and
maybe been in town for a while, you've
[1:22:28] seen vehicles parked on corners where
there's no parking. person in Cascade.
[1:22:32] Great spot. You've seen vehicles parked
in crosswalks. You've seen vehicle
[1:22:36] parked, you know, in spots you're not
supposed to park just for a quick in and
[1:22:40] out. That's how accidents happen. Now
using technology
[1:22:44] we can enforce the areas that we want to
enforce especially crosswalks, no
[1:22:50] parking zones, stop light, a stoplight
in town and other areas, high traffic
[1:22:55] areas and to our parking
at at barely no cost with an extra
[1:23:01] additional screening measure in place to
avoid people who have permission to park
[1:23:04] there or private parking spots. This is
something that I personally have wanted
[1:23:08] to see for a lot of years because it
just enhances an already existing law
[1:23:13] that we have on the books ordinance.
>> Maybe that begs the question because it
[1:23:17] sounds like the tone's changed. If if
Eric has any validity in what he said,
[1:23:21] doesn't sound like the businesses are
interested.
[1:23:23] » It's It sounds like there's a mixture of
some that don't want it and some that
[1:23:27] do. I mean, that's to be expected. I
think there's individual groups,
[1:23:30] » right? Some people want to hear who does
what?
[1:23:33] » We have a the bottom line is are we
going to repeal the two-hour parking
[1:23:37] ordinance? Is that what we're talking
about here? Are we going to keep it
[1:23:39] enforced and keep it standard? Because
communities who do this consistently
[1:23:43] don't have an issue with it. People know
it's two-hour parking. They come in,
[1:23:46] they park, they know they have to leave,
they leave. Right. This is not a change
[1:23:50] from what we have. It's just a way to
use technology to enforce it.
[1:23:54] » So,
let's see.
[1:23:59] That's my take on that.
>> I I would probably agree, Ron. It must
[1:24:03] be hard to enforce because I did a
public request [clears throat] for
[1:24:06] information today to see how many
tickets have been written. There's been
[1:24:09] five in two years,
>> right?
[1:24:11] » So, I I wonder is it is it because they
don't have the resources to do it or is
[1:24:14] there just not an issue?
>> Resources and basically resources and
[1:24:19] the issue priority, right? When you have
less resources, you have higher priority
[1:24:22] calls. So to the to the safety thing,
too. The the one other accident that
[1:24:26] happened in downtown wasn't even on a
street that's being addressed by this.
[1:24:30] » Yeah, I I can't I can't speak to that,
but I I can say that
[1:24:33] » you know where the accident was. You can
>> I can't because I know that when people
[1:24:37] when vehicles parked, we're not supposed
to leave for two minutes to run in and
[1:24:40] out to go somewhere. An accident can
happen. It can, but it hasn't.
[1:24:44] » But the other accident was on Cascade.
>> Yes.
[1:24:48] » Was it on or Cascade? It
>> was on Cascade. in a crosswalk
[1:24:53] » at a crosswalk.
>> No, it was not in a crosswalk. Nope.
[1:25:00] » So, so Ron does bring up a good
question. Why do we have a 2-hour
[1:25:04] ordinance?
>> That's my comment today to a few people
[1:25:10] that asked. I said, um, we're not
enforcing ordinance as is. So, either
[1:25:14] we're going to enforce it or we repeal
it. Um, because right now we currently
[1:25:17] have signs up up and down Cascade saying
two-hour parking only. And some say five
[1:25:21] minutes and some say 15. We have
different spots. But
[1:25:24] » right, but where did that come from? I
mean, Eric is saying
[1:25:28] nobody, none of the businesses want it.
It had to have been wanted by somebody
[1:25:32] at some point. And I'm saying
>> I suspect it was the businesses.
[1:25:36] » I had a conversation with Frank today,
too, about that, and he is in favor of
[1:25:40] it in front of his building. However,
he's the only one, and he's been able to
[1:25:45] manage it. And the problem that he's had
has been the people over at the thrift
[1:25:49] shop across the street. He said, "You
know what? Park in my other spots. You
[1:25:53] know, if you're going to be here all
day, just don't use that the two spots
[1:25:55] in front of his business." So, that and
the post office are really the only like
[1:25:59] heavy transient people that want to keep
rotation. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure
[1:26:04] Eric listed every other business
downtown. He He didn't, Mike, because I
[1:26:07] got a couple my head
>> with with the exception of Chieftain
[1:26:10] Street, which we're not even addressing
here because I would agree there's
[1:26:13] probably some issues on Chieftain,
>> but we don't have any we're not
[1:26:17] addressing anything there.
>> Yeah, but I think this was just like a
[1:26:20] proposal. I mean, we could add Chieftain
Street if that's what you would like.
[1:26:26] » We We're finding a solution to a problem
that I don't think anybody wants to
[1:26:30] solve.
>> I'm just saying that you brought up
[1:26:32] Chieftain Street, so I'm telling you a
solution if you wanted to add it. I
[1:26:35] think you have said there's an
underlying agenda here and I'm not
[1:26:38] interested in it and I'm going to
continue to poke holes in this
[1:26:41] » also
>> until we go away.
[1:26:45] » What' you say?
[1:26:49] » I said there was also 15
[1:27:01] response so we can read it. [laughter]
You try that again [clears throat]
[1:27:06] one more time. Vanam,
>> there was over 1500 signature
[1:27:12] prior to this meeting people that
opposed it
[1:27:19] » and 1500 people opposed it.
>> Yeah, I think that that was related to
[1:27:22] the the um the signatures that were
circulated last time. Um but that was
[1:27:29] when the conversation was centered
around. I think there was another 600
[1:27:32] yet today though just on the card
agenda.
[1:27:35] » I think there's I think there's a lot of
misinformation out there though.
[1:27:38] » Well, it's unfortunate that the the
conversation is not being cast in a
[1:27:41] light that's productive because it
centers around paid parking
[1:27:46] » parking meters
>> and parking meters and that I think
[1:27:49] that's unfortunately biasing the
conversation but
[1:27:52] » object to that.
>> Can we not have G gallery? We've already
[1:27:57] like we have to keep Yeah, there's a
Sorry. But
[1:28:08] » yeah, and I I don't want to debate the
merits of whether or not a business is
[1:28:12] or for or opposed it. I mean, businesses
come and go, so there's going to be
[1:28:15] other businesses that may or may not be
in favor of doing something. But I think
[1:28:19] the bigger issue here is that we have
laws. And I mean, I seem to recall
[1:28:25] getting challenged even myself about
whether or not there was appropriate
[1:28:30] enforcement going on for other
ordinances that are already on the
[1:28:33] books. So, are we going to enforce the
ordinances that we have or are we not?
[1:28:38] And if we're not, then maybe they need
to be changed.
[1:28:41] » And you know, Mike, I heard you refer to
alternative motives. Is it financial? Is
[1:28:46] that what you're getting at? I I don't
see how this is not going to track down
[1:28:49] the path of
>> if it was fighting. Well,
[1:28:52] » that's a separate issue. Right now,
we're talking about
[1:28:55] » enforcement. Yeah.
>> Enforcement of existing laws for
[1:28:58] two-hour parking, including handicap
areas, no parking zones, and other
[1:29:03] dangerous stuff.
>> Fire hydrants,
[1:29:04] » fire hydrants.
>> This is what we're looking at.
[1:29:07] » And I I want to say the proposal was the
basically two over and everything. It
[1:29:12] can be as simple as the safety sticks
and the areas that you're concerned
[1:29:15] about, too. It can be as simple as
nothing tonight. Like I said, there was
[1:29:18] no formal thing being presented to you.
It was discussion to figure out a
[1:29:23] direction we want to go.
>> At this point, I personally be happy. I
[1:29:27] mean, if if it made other people happy
trying this out with a safety sticks
[1:29:31] just in the dangerous areas, right, the
crosswalks, the no parking zones, the
[1:29:36] the other areas we've listed, right? And
then seeing where that goes. the
[1:29:41] two-hour parking is not going to go away
because some businesses now don't favor
[1:29:46] it, but some businesses do. And like
like was just brought up here,
[1:29:50] businesses can come and go and their
their needs and wants will change, but
[1:29:53] this ordinance has been on the books for
over 30 years. And if we're going to
[1:29:56] have it, we need to enforce it. Now, we
have technology that can help do that
[1:30:00] efficiently.
So, I would support something like this.
[1:30:08] I just want to ask a logistical question
to uh Mike there at MPS. You got these
[1:30:15] photos of downtown. Are the blue areas
meant to be in the crosswalks? Cuz some
[1:30:20] of them are not. The the blue area, it's
meant to be it's it's not be exact. It's
[1:30:27] meant to be uh illustrative of where the
camera would kind of focus into where it
[1:30:33] would detect the vehicle and the plate.
So, it's not meant to be exact. It's
[1:30:37] meant to be this is where we would
detect the vehicle and read the plate.
[1:30:41] So, you when you look at, you know, and
and again, this was all just kind of
[1:30:45] conceptually what could be done. If if
two if enforcing two hours is important
[1:30:50] to you, this is one way that you could
solve that problem. Um and and so this
[1:30:55] was just kind of meant to show when a
vehicle so this particular one that's up
[1:30:59] right here when it's heading south on
Cascade when it's leaving that that
[1:31:03] southern block there we would read the
plate um because and that would match
[1:31:09] with a plate read that we had up um on
second where you know the vehicle went
[1:31:14] in you know and and presumably traffic's
just going to flow through there and you
[1:31:19] know we'd read a plate going in and read
a plate going out you know they were
[1:31:23] they were on the street for I don't know
15 20 seconds. If they parked, we would
[1:31:28] read that exit, you know, x number of
minutes or hours later and those the
[1:31:34] entrance and exit would be matched up
and that would be a parking session and
[1:31:37] that parking session gets timed.
>> Mike, I do have a question for you.
[1:31:42] » Sure.
>> Say someone had a marathon shopping
[1:31:45] spree at the grocery store and exited
entrance. Um, how would that be picked
[1:31:50] up? and sorry and did what?
>> Like uh say they came in Cascade at like
[1:31:56] one and they went to the grocery store
for two hours and didn't pass into
[1:31:59] camera and came out the other end. Will
that trigger them to be as a park for
[1:32:04] two hours?
>> Well, if we don't detect an exit, then
[1:32:07] the session doesn't get flagged.
>> But I'm saying if they if they come in
[1:32:12] one side and park at a at a private lot
for two hours and go out the other side,
[1:32:16] will that be flagged as two
>> park? Yeah. So, so if if the cameras
[1:32:22] were set up to to No. So, the answer is
no because it would get architected to
[1:32:29] prevent that from happening. The the
illustrations I put here on the two
[1:32:33] blocks of Cascade there there's really
no ins and outs. There's only one way in
[1:32:37] and that's, you know, at the beginning
of the block and there's one way out at
[1:32:40] the end of the block. So, if there's
>> I just want to make sure no one be
[1:32:45] wrongfully ticketed.
>> No. And and that's that's it would be
[1:32:49] architected such that nobody would be
wrongfully ticketed.
[1:32:57] » Did that answer your question?
>> Yes. Thank you.
[1:32:59] » Yep. [snorts]
[1:33:05] » So in terms of you know again this was
just meant as kind of illustrative of
[1:33:10] what we could do uh conceptually if
enforcing two hours is important. Um,
[1:33:15] you know, it it really depends on the
city and and what your goals are. I
[1:33:20] mean, this discussion comes up a lot. If
if you would like, I have a a white
[1:33:25] paper that I like to share with
municipalities when we're having
[1:33:29] discussions with the curbside parking.
Um, it's comes out of the UCLA urban
[1:33:34] studies uh department. I didn't write
the paper. I don't know the guy who
[1:33:38] wrote the paper, but it's a really good
paper because it talks about the value
[1:33:42] of that curbside parking um and how most
municipalities give it away like any
[1:33:48] utility that they wouldn't give away. Um
so it really talks about how to manage
[1:33:53] that. Um you know, one of the discussion
points I heard early was, you know,
[1:33:57] employees are are taking these spots and
employees need a place to park. Um, and
[1:34:02] if they're working eight hour shifts or
10 hour shifts or four hour shifts, they
[1:34:06] need to have a place where they can park
for four hours, six hours, eight hours,
[1:34:09] 10 hours, whatever that case might be.
But typically, the way municipalities
[1:34:14] will set up their parking assets is that
for longer term parking, they'll put
[1:34:18] that kind of on the perimeter of the
core. So, I'd view Cascade as kind of
[1:34:23] your core. And you've got some lots. It
was mentioned behind the post office has
[1:34:27] got a lot. Um, and then by the liquor
store and just south of there. And I
[1:34:31] think there's also another lot uh to the
west of Cascade
[1:34:36] uh maybe on third if I recall correctly.
[clears throat] And you know you would
[1:34:41] set those up as 4 hour, 6 hour, 8 hour
and really encourage people to go that
[1:34:46] way for the people who are going to who
stay for a while. And then the turnover
[1:34:50] spots are the ones for the businesses so
you can get your people coming in
[1:34:55] shop, dine, whatever the case might be.
Maybe it's two hours, maybe it's three
[1:34:59] hours, whatever that number is. But you
want to have that turnover for those
[1:35:03] transactional type of of uh uh
customers. So if you're interested, I'm
[1:35:09] happy to send you that white paper. You
can read it's it's good, you know,
[1:35:12] bedtime reading. Uh kind of talks about
managing managing those assets. Uh like
[1:35:18] I said, I have no stake in it, but it is
a good discussion point to to kind of
[1:35:21] read through it.
[1:35:32] Maybe uh the opportunity exists here
again because this is hot
[1:35:40] to uh gather information on
perhaps the 2hour time period has gone
[1:35:47] away. Is there a different time period
that our businesses are interested in or
[1:35:54] do they no longer care whatsoever?
>> Yeah, I was surprised that this didn't
[1:35:59] come through one of our and I'm going to
use the wrong term. Our chamber of
[1:36:02] commerce is
>> you know currently it's right now it's
[1:36:04] kind of a floating thing. Yeah, I know.
That's why I use that term loosely
[1:36:08] because I don't know what the group is,
but it's representative of the business
[1:36:11] that is in theory the people that Ron
suggested have the issue.
[1:36:17] » And without direction from you guys, I I
wanted to make sure we have directions
[1:36:20] before I totally have a sit down meeting
with everyone. Unfortunately, like I
[1:36:24] said, today it really blew up. Uh
without direction from you, board, I
[1:36:27] can't present anything or a guidance of
a a conversation until I have parameters
[1:36:33] really. uh because then we're starting I
don't like to start a project here. You
[1:36:37] want to funnel it down into an area that
we can actually discuss in a timely
[1:36:41] manner in a civil manner. Um and tonight
was really kind of the stepping stone of
[1:36:46] showing you the what is capable of doing
with the technology and if it's
[1:36:50] something we even want to to go down and
and to to look at. I I just want to
[1:36:55] reiterate I see some a lot of gaps and a
lot of problems that we're going to run
[1:37:00] into. you know, um, we've got a
municipal lot being addressed. Chieftain
[1:37:04] Street's not we're not looking at it.
We've got the Valley Spirits lot that it
[1:37:10] Frank can let anybody park there as long
as he wants. Um, and then it ends up
[1:37:14] being a piss match. There's um there's
at least well, let me phrase that. I
[1:37:19] know of one class action lawsuit that
this business is involved in over data.
[1:37:25] I'm we're going down a a path that we're
we found a solution to a problem. I'm
[1:37:29] not sure anybody wants to solve.
It's It's a slippery slope.
[1:37:35] » I think our first problem that we need
to solve is parking for employees.
[1:37:38] Really?
>> Well, that's
[1:37:41] » I think that's part of it.
>> Yeah. That's up to the That's up to the
[1:37:44] business though because I guarantee you
that if a business downtown, their
[1:37:47] employees come to work, they're not
parking in front of their business,
[1:37:51] right? They're going to go down and
leave that parking for customers and
[1:37:54] park in front of some other business or
or some other spot.
[1:37:56] » Some other business,
>> right? So, you know, it's something that
[1:37:59] definitely needs attention and I know
that's been brought up with some of the
[1:38:03] parking lot solutions, but again, yeah,
there's a lot of there's a lot of people
[1:38:07] that work downtown. They need parking.
They're parking in these areas.
[1:38:11] » I would be happy if you're looking for
more direction to recommend for now that
[1:38:16] to give this company a chance, we place
these sticks in the, you know, the
[1:38:20] high-profile no parking areas, right?
the intersections, those places to see
[1:38:25] how they work, to see what we capture,
to see how reliable it is, and then if
[1:38:30] that seems to be okay, and then down the
road, whether it's 6 months or a year,
[1:38:34] we want to explore the two-hour parking,
probably not what the police department
[1:38:38] wants to hear, but then we can look at
doing that. But at least this gives us a
[1:38:41] smaller snapshot or glimpse of what this
company can offer and what data we get
[1:38:46] and how easy it is. cuz maybe if the
police department starts getting 25
[1:38:50] requests a day to write parking tickets,
you know, then we see what the need is
[1:38:55] down the road. That's one thing. But
right now, we can see what a smaller
[1:38:58] snapshot shows. And I Tanner stated
tonight in case you didn't questions for
[1:39:02] the police department, too. So that's
why Tanner stick around a little extra.
[1:39:05] » Yeah, I almost would want want to hear
from him and maybe Paul, too, on fire
[1:39:10] hydrants and if that's a problem
having access to those. We don't have
[1:39:16] problems.
>> Okay.
[1:39:17] » We just take the window off the hole.
[laughter]
[1:39:22] » No problem at all.
>> No problem.
[1:39:25] » No disrespect, but I'd rather hear from
AJ.
[1:39:29] » Tanner, if you have something to offer,
I'd like to hear. I'm sure you and AJ
[1:39:32] spoke about this.
>> Uh the only cliff note that AJ gave me
[1:39:34] is the ability to have certain license
plates entered in the system so that
[1:39:39] this person does not get a ticket if
they violate the ordinance, such as the
[1:39:42] people who pay for parking behind
jackpots in that lot.
[1:39:45] Outside anything from that, I would
probably agree this would be a thing for
[1:39:48] HP to talk about you guys on
>> get him out of the ball. [laughter]
[1:39:54] » Get him out of the pool.
>> Yeah.
[1:39:58] » I don't know how anybody else thinks
about it, but if we're looking for a
[1:40:00] scope on this right now to narrow it
down, I would be in favor of the no
[1:40:04] parking, fire hydrants, crosswalks,
corners, where people shouldn't be
[1:40:09] parking for any reason, employee or not,
just to see how the system works. and
[1:40:13] then address it or not address it later.
But
[1:40:19] » yeah, and there were some
comments that were read back during
[1:40:23] public comment. Um, some of which were
some of the things that I said and they
[1:40:28] were related to my opinion that I'm not
interested in exploring any paid parking
[1:40:35] in the village until after the bridge is
open. I don't want to deal with adding
[1:40:38] any stress to the business owners plates
with regard to any paid parking. This is
[1:40:43] a different conversation. This is
enforcing the parking rules that we
[1:40:46] already have. Now, if we have a broken
parking rule,
[1:40:51] that's my opinion. We need to address
the code. If the great majority is that
[1:40:56] this shouldn't exist, then remove it.
Freeforall. No restrictions. Park as
[1:41:01] long as you want. I mean, that's the
alternative, right? I mean, if we don't
[1:41:05] have any parking restrictions because
the the great majority of the business
[1:41:09] owners in town don't want them, fine.
Remove them and let people park as long
[1:41:15] as they want in any spot they want
downtown. That's the because otherwise
[1:41:20] why have the law in place if we're not
going to take reasonable no cost to us
[1:41:27] steps to enforce them.
[1:41:31] So, I would be willing to entertain
future meeting topics to discuss
[1:41:35] amending village code to repeal our
parking restrictions.
[1:41:45] » I see.
>> I think we'd have to take a more of a
[1:41:48] survey of businesses downtown. It would
be just a snapshot on social media.
[1:41:51] » Oh, that that'd be me going to talking
to everyone and finding out. area
[1:41:55] because a lot of businesses do rely on
people coming in and coming out. Some
[1:41:59] business rely on people staying for
hours,
[1:42:01] » right? So, you're going to get a variety
of responses.
[1:42:04] » I agree.
>> But we can't go off of social media or
[1:42:07] petitions signed by people that may or
may not be village residents or business
[1:42:10] owners.
>> Yeah.
[1:42:11] » Right. Or unknown data.
>> Yep. I agree. It would be a town hall
[1:42:15] style setting I would want to have for
something like that for sure. Yep.
[1:42:22] » Who's following Ron's suggestion of
placing them in the potential problem
[1:42:28] areas. Would that
gather some of the data that we would
[1:42:33] actually need
to decide
[1:42:37] is this a problem?
>> Yeah. And that was kind of related to
[1:42:40] what he had talked about with the
because you did a records request,
[1:42:43] right?
>> Yeah. I mean, yes, there was a minimal
[1:42:47] amount of citations, but then again, our
code is complaint driven anyway. So we
[1:42:51] don't
>> there was 10 in two years there was 10
[1:42:53] snow events and five
[1:43:00] » I can tell you there's been a lot more
violations because I've come in a few
[1:43:02] times and asked why the car on Cascade
wasn't ticketed after a plow event.
[1:43:06] » There's been a ton and we haven't last
two years we haven't had police coverage
[1:43:09] a lot in the evenings either. Well, and
the other problem area that I'm aware of
[1:43:12] just because it's constant and it it's
more so just with walking across the
[1:43:16] street, but parking as well in front of
the wershed is treacherous.
[1:43:21] » Like there are all kinds of vehicles
parked in places that shouldn't be
[1:43:24] parked in front of that place.
>> In two years, there was 41 no overnight
[1:43:28] parking by citations, five
um
[1:43:33] no parking zone citations, and 10 snow
emergencies.
[1:43:38] And Tanner can probably answer this, but
I'm willing to bet those were basically
[1:43:41] written on nights there were snowfalls
because they had to, not because they
[1:43:45] had the staff could do it nightly
consistently.
[1:43:48] » Right.
>> The all night winter parking is your
[1:43:50] standard two to six. The snow emergency
one is when we get more than two inches
[1:43:53] of snow. The boys come out with plows.
>> We have a specific number. We did 17
[1:43:58] winter parking tickets.
>> That would be snow emergency and just
[1:44:01] the general 2 to six or statue or nuts.
>> But main street everywhere. And I I
[1:44:07] think I remember when we first brought
this up, I I thought about
[1:44:13] um doing the just the sticks, not these
large camera pieces. I don't even think
[1:44:21] we we discussed we saw those. No, what
originally you you talked about continue
[1:44:26] with the safety 6 conversation and then
in admin finance um
[1:44:30] » we'd been talking to him longer and we
wanted to see what possibly it might
[1:44:34] look like with parking enforcement
because AJ said that's been an issue
[1:44:37] that they haven't been able to enforce
it. So then admin finance recommended to
[1:44:41] the full board that we talk about
November meeting which we did and it was
[1:44:44] recommended to go forward for further
investigation what it might look like
[1:44:47] and that's where we are tonight for the
quick history on that. Yeah. And I I
[1:44:51] remember talking about um that I like
safety sticks for the data first more
[1:44:58] than any sort of enforcement so that we
can see and then the public can see is
[1:45:04] this a problem, is this not? So, if we
had one and one on like one corner, one
[1:45:09] on the other corner, just these sticks
and used it for data only,
[1:45:14] um I think that would give us a view and
then get rid of them or not
[1:45:21] after we get the data because there's no
real data right now. That's substantial.
[1:45:29] And and that's something we do with with
um prospects is we're happy to do that.
[1:45:36] Put a couple sticks in, show you the
data,
[1:45:38] » and if there's no data, we take them
out. And that's not
[1:45:43] » that's [clears throat] a good comment.
>> Again, I wouldn't mind seeing sticks in
[1:45:46] the prohibited hightra areas like we
talked about.
[1:45:49] » Yep.
>> For now, for a set period of time, in
[1:45:52] the meantime, that could give us time to
talk to the businesses and talk to
[1:45:55] people downtown to see how they really
feel about it. And then from that point,
[1:46:00] we could either expand this to two-hour
parking or repeal the two-hour parking
[1:46:04] if that's consensus. But in the
meantime, I don't think it hurts to have
[1:46:08] the no parking areas covered. Fire
hydrants, crosswalks, corners, people
[1:46:13] park temporarily
>> curbs that are too close to an
[1:46:17] intersection.
>> That would not be a bad thing because
[1:46:22] there's no reason for anybody to park
there, right?
[1:46:28] Yeah, I think
>> I think it bears it bears stating too
[1:46:33] that I know that one of the concerns
that a business owner brought to my
[1:46:36] attention today was that there was a
there was concern that this would be a
[1:46:40] that this would be a Trojan horse for
paid parking. And I think that that's an
[1:46:46] avenue, but it's not what this
conversation is about tonight. This
[1:46:50] conversation tonight is about something
that is separated from paid parking in
[1:46:54] the fact that, you know, like Ron had
said, this is a this is an ordinance
[1:46:58] that's been on the books that this the
the limited resources that we have have
[1:47:02] not been able to enforce for a while.
And is this a solution in search of a
[1:47:07] problem that's not really there? I don't
know. But if we have a company that's
[1:47:10] willing to show us whether or not it is
and at no cost to us, I don't see any
[1:47:14] reason why we would say no to that. Like
I I it just it doesn't make any sense.
[1:47:18] Like you don't you don't if you get an
opportunity to get data for free then
[1:47:24] take the data and if it doesn't support
doing anything further then you get rid
[1:47:28] of it and you're done. We've made
stupider decisions that cost us money.
[1:47:47] That's kind of an interaction.
>> Yeah, I don't think there's any sort of
[1:47:51] action or anything. I just think
>> I'm not willing to propose any.
[1:47:54] » Yeah, this is just
>> and this is kind of, you know, it's
[1:47:58] unfortunately with with our monthly
meetings, it's really hard to have
[1:48:01] discussions before it gets out really
gets out to the public because, you
[1:48:04] know, you guys have to direction before
I can really give access to it,
[1:48:07] » right?
>> But the information has to be made
[1:48:09] public so people are aware that we're
talking about it. Uh it's it's a very
[1:48:13] good thing, but it also doesn't give a
chance to us to really describe what
[1:48:16] we're planning on looking at doing here.
>> The information has to be accurate.
[1:48:19] » Yes.
>> Right. It has to be accurate. It has to
[1:48:21] be detailed. It can't I mean a lot of
the stuff I've heard in the last day and
[1:48:25] a half completely false, right?
Completely false information. I mean,
[1:48:30] and that spreads and people get upset
and that doesn't do any of us any good.
[1:48:34] But we come to me like
>> what you just said is inaccurate because
[1:48:36] the data that was posted didn't happen
till this morning.
[1:48:39] » What data in particular? But whatever
you're in uh insinuating
[1:48:44] » just the fact that people were talking
about
[1:48:45] » this didn't start talking about it till
this morning.
[1:48:50] » When did when did how did this get out
like two days ago?
[1:48:54] » I don't know. It's been in the packet
since Friday,
[1:48:57] » right?
>> Yeah.
[1:48:57] » So,
>> the social media event didn't happen
[1:48:59] until this.
>> No, it was in the pack. It's been out
[1:49:01] since Friday.
>> Either way, misinformation does not
[1:49:03] help. And I'm glad we could set the
record straight like this, but
[1:49:08] unfortunately we have to deal with the
other parts
[1:49:09] » because like Deon said, we live in a,
you know, digital world now where
[1:49:12] information gets out.
>> Since the information's been out since
[1:49:15] Friday, um, I've had, uh, one business
owner call me, uh, two business owners
[1:49:19] or one manager of a business and the
same business owner who called me, email
[1:49:23] me, and zero board members have called
me or emailed me about this. So in terms
[1:49:27] of public interactions to me answering
my questions it's been br virtually
[1:49:32] zero.
[1:49:38] » The business manager that got a hold of
you. Who was that?
[1:49:42] » Uh Brand Brandon from I sent him an
email this morning.
[1:49:51] Anybody else have any opinions they want
to share on this topic?
[1:49:58] Okay, moving on.
>> Well, thank you for your time, Mike.
[1:50:03] » Yep. Thanks everyone. I appreciate it.
>> Thanks everybody.
[1:50:07] » Okay, 7B, Heritage Committee update
handout.
[1:50:20] » Thank you.
any starting
[1:50:27] want to know that we're not doing
nothing process
[1:50:34] one if you answer
>> of course
[1:50:38] » I love talking to you guys
>> thanks um so you can get our contact
[1:50:42] information from Devon if you have
questions for us um and we're in a
[1:50:47] process of getting more information just
slowly moving things along
[1:50:51] » Devin do we have anything in the CIP
set aside yet for wayfinding at Grist
[1:50:57] Mill for the heritage committee to use?
>> Yes, we're um the amount for it will be
[1:51:03] so minuscule that we'll just uh we can
administratively approve it. Um it's
[1:51:07] just a small small amount. It's we're
looking probably between $500 and $1,000
[1:51:11] for signage.
>> Okay.
[1:51:15] And are they being invited to
the meetings at this point for the
[1:51:20] construction?
Uh they're not involved in construction
[1:51:23] means. No, but Drew today sent them a
list of uh potential um podiums that the
[1:51:29] information would be on.
>> And we're getting to the point now with
[1:51:31] stairs that are going to get
constructed. We're going to start
[1:51:34] finding an opportunity to start talking
about the finalization.
[1:51:38] Landscaping, greenery, and signage is
going to be some of the last stuff that
[1:51:42] gets talked about, but you don't want to
miss it because all of a sudden now
[1:51:45] you've got a contractor sealing up their
project and saying, "All right, let's
[1:51:48] cut the ribbon." and people have been
left out. So,
[1:51:51] » I know this is a signage topic, but I
saw a few logos in there and I thought
[1:51:55] logos was a whole separate topic. Logos
for this this in the signage.
[1:52:01] » Oh,
later it
[1:52:06] » the bike like
>> some of that signage was existing
[1:52:08] signage that's just moving.
>> Okay. I was trying to figure out what
[1:52:12] was new, what was
being executed as part of Gris Mill and
[1:52:16] maybe what was new. Um Brad, before we
get any further, um this is that no
[1:52:22] action item. I would like to revisit the
storm water utility open again. Motion
[1:52:27] for that. Uh there's one item that was
was missed that I just um Carrie alerted
[1:52:33] me to
>> which is um a storm water utility bill
[1:52:37] will or will not be established for
those properties with with a water
[1:52:41] utility bill. Do we want to bill people
that are not receiving utility bill? And
[1:52:45] that warrants it to be reopened again to
make that decision because that affects
[1:52:48] how we approve the ordinance.
>> Was it written as the ordinance was now?
[1:52:52] » Um the the ordinance the packet was the
one that said um will not be build.
[1:53:02] » Oh, it does.
>> Hopefully.
[1:53:05] » Oh, got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got
it.
[1:53:08] » So, I I would like to resend that motion
and go back and revisit.
[1:53:11] » So, yeah. All right. So, all right.
Robert's rules. Um, can we finish this
[1:53:16] point before we move on?
>> I just I just want to blow fresh in my
[1:53:18] mind.
>> Yeah, we're going to get to that before
[1:53:21] we get to item eight. Then we'll do it
if we do it within the same meeting, we
[1:53:24] can have a motion to reconsider and it
will be pulled back and then we can
[1:53:31] re discuss the topic. So, the motion to
reconsider can be done during the same
[1:53:34] meeting. It just has to happen at the
end of the agenda. Okay. Um All right.
[1:53:40] Uh, anything else on the heritage
committee? No, they've been doing a
[1:53:44] great job. I've I've attended stopped in
a few of the meetings and talked to
[1:53:47] them. Uh they're really enjoying
learning about the history um from as
[1:53:52] far back as spoken word to now. So,
they'll do a thorough job of getting the
[1:53:56] whole history.
>> It's a great update. Thank you.
[1:53:59] » Yeah. Been looking for something like
this. Thank you.
[1:54:13] Yeah,
>> we have like we really and we've been
[1:54:16] reaching out to different people in the
community to try to get input from as
[1:54:20] many different angles as we can. We were
at the community fair. Um
[1:54:25] anyway, um so we'll we'll keep folks
posted when we're going to have those
[1:54:30] sessions and maybe have some input from
y'all of like avenues to, you know, put
[1:54:34] that out to make sure people know what's
happening and catch you up. But having
[1:54:37] the parameters for the song, you
[laughter] really need that.
[1:54:40] » Yeah. Thank you.
>> Like 10 words is different than a
[1:54:44] thousand is different.
>> How many do you need?
[1:54:49] » We could probably write a whole book. So
well, and Kim mentioned that there's a
[1:54:54] long ordinance about signs. So
>> yeah, I would consider a QR code on
[1:54:59] whatever signage you have to take you to
a site. Yes. Yeah.
[1:55:06] » Okay. Uh 7 CMS MSA discussion and
adoption of our CIP per resolution
[1:55:13] 20 2601. We just did that.
>> What
[1:55:18] » versus ordinate? Oh jeez.
I was worried about that too. Brad
[1:55:24] [laughter]
[1:55:27] » carries on it.
>> But good evening everybody. Um I'm here
[1:55:33] tonight to talk about the updated CIP
once again. Um the board had discussion
[1:55:38] last month and um I had a meeting with
uh village staff. Um I just want to
[1:55:43] basically go over the talking points of
what we have done um to update the CIP.
[1:55:49] Um Devin, you could rest on page 133, I
believe. That would be fine. But
[1:55:53] » yeah, one way to go. Um Mike uh he had a
a comment just about the public works
[1:55:58] equipment table and that was a clerical
revision and that's since been updated
[1:56:02] with the right dates at least and Todd
and I said sat down looked at it. Um
[1:56:08] Neil he had a comment that he wanted to
see a Third Avenue reconstruction
[1:56:11] project um or at least a trail project
and uh we sat down and created a a
[1:56:17] illustrative project. So, um outside of
the 5-year plan to reconstruct, um Third
[1:56:24] Avenue from Summit Street to County
Highway M. And this reconstruction
[1:56:30] project will widen the road um to
accommodate a uh 6 to 8 foot bike lane.
[1:56:36] Um this bike lane will be also
pedestrian surface, not just for bikers.
[1:56:41] » Yeah, I want to say that we we decided
against a curb and gutter lift because
[1:56:44] of the cost. Um there's no way we could
fit a full reconstruct into a CIP at
[1:56:48] that cost if you lift it and do a 8 to
12 foot wide sidewalk on a curb. That
[1:56:53] would drastically alter the size of the
road which require extensive
[1:56:56] reconstruction.
>> Yep. Very good, Devon. Also, there is
[1:57:00] minimal storm sewer on the road. Um so
just improving the road with curb and
[1:57:05] gutter requires storm sewer and then
requires outfalls and there's wetlands
[1:57:09] adjacent to the road. So, um, Devon's
right on. It just increases the cost
[1:57:13] and, um, so, um, I slate that as MSID
project that could occur after, uh,
[1:57:20] River Street phase 2. Um, so be out
there in the future, but the costs that
[1:57:24] I saw fit well with the MSID, um,
application. So, um, that made sense. Um
[1:57:31] then uh we can talk a little bit about
some um park projects or some basically
[1:57:39] uh replplatting or selling of parkland.
Um there was some discussion about you
[1:57:44] know Smith Park, Eric Park, River Street
Park and uh Todd has those parks on his
[1:57:49] radar to have discussion at a public
works meeting um of how we'd like to
[1:57:55] move with them. But basically taking
underutilized park land instead of uh
[1:58:01] redeveloping it, putting um new
playground equipment in there. Um
[1:58:04] looking at a land sale to help fund
improvements um such as um an Oki Park
[1:58:10] pickle ball court. Um so you'll I'll
transition to that topic. You'll see
[1:58:14] that there's a um illustrative park
project for Oki Park pickle ball courts.
[1:58:21] And the reason it's illustrative is um
we're hoping to move it into the the
[1:58:27] five-year CIP but not use CIP funds to
pay for for the pickle ball court. So
[1:58:33] try to find another funding source, for
example, a land sale or other option
[1:58:38] that uh we come up with. But um that was
I believe it was Brad's comment um about
[1:58:44] where's the pickle ball course going. Um
that's where that's where uh we landed
[1:58:49] on. Um Todd's continuing the scope on
there. Um but um I I did a preliminary
[1:58:55] scope um with three courts and uh the
cost is uh is in the the park section
[1:59:03] » 937.
>> There was discussion from Mike um to
[1:59:08] remove Cascade Falls phase 2 um project.
Um we had internal conversations. Um we
[1:59:15] decided to leave that uh park in there.
Um we are not set on the timeline um but
[1:59:22] that we believe is the next priority
project to use stewardship funding on.
[1:59:26] Um the reason why it's still in there is
because um there's a constant
[1:59:31] maintenance uh demand um on the public
works um team down there. Um when the
[1:59:38] park floods the boardwalks heave, the
boardwalks, you know, move and um it's
[1:59:43] very labor intensive to have people go
down there and work on it. So, um we
[1:59:48] identify that as a priority to decrease
um the manh hours down there. Um improve
[1:59:55] the boardwalks for ADA and then there's
also some uh land acquisition or
[2:00:01] easement issues down there. So, um going
to continue down that route. Um at least
[2:00:07] that's what our our staff is
recommending here um tonight.
[2:00:11] So, I wouldn't click there, but those
are our talking points. Um, I appreciate
[2:00:17] the board's feedback last meeting. Um, I
want to make sure they're happy with
[2:00:22] this plan. Um, the projects in these
seven sections. Um, you know, I I
[2:00:27] completely understand, you know, how
difficult this task is and there can be
[2:00:32] unlimited amounts of projects that can
go into this plan. Um, you know, I've
[2:00:36] been a part of CIP plans that, you know,
went through seven to eight revisions of
[2:00:40] the plan. So, um, I'll leave it there.
I'll entertain any discussion, but
[2:00:46] tonight I'm looking for um motion to
approve the resolutions.
[2:00:50] » And keep in mind really what you're
approving is just the two-year scope. Uh
[2:00:53] in two years, we'll go through this
whole thing again and shift things
[2:00:56] around again.
>> Um the idea for three, four, five or
[2:01:00] what we'd like to see, but we all know
emergencies happen. Uh priorities change
[2:01:04] over the course of a few years, too. Um,
so even though if this might not see
[2:01:09] where you want it to be, uh, keep in
mind that the current borrowing measure
[2:01:12] is only for the two-year period and in
two years we'll be rehashed in all this
[2:01:17] conversation again.
>> You caught all the things that I brought
[2:01:21] up last month. So, I'm good.
[2:01:32] » Anybody else have anything that they
want to see change?
[2:01:37] Otherwise, I'll entertain a motion to
adopt this resolution 2601.
[2:01:42] » I'll make a motion to adopt resolution
2601 to adopt our capital improvement
[2:01:48] plan 2026 2028.
>> 2627,
[2:01:56] right? Yeah. Two years.
>> Yeah. Oh, okay.
[2:02:06] I'll second that. Motion by myself and a
sec or by Arvid and a second by myself.
[2:02:12] All those in favor say I.
>> I. Post say no.
[2:02:15] » Okay. 7C2 Cascade Falls Trail bike
racks.
[2:02:20] » Yep. I'll continue. Uh today I am
presenting a quote from our um
[2:02:26] furnishing suppliers. So on Cascade
Falls Park um we're using Thomas
[2:02:31] Steelely furnishings. typical supplies
out of Wisconsin here. Um, well, I
[2:02:37] reached out to one of their, you could
say sister companies companies or they
[2:02:42] own this company from Grey Manufacturing
or Mad Racks. They create custom um,
[2:02:47] bike racks. So, um, through the design
process, it was identified that, um, the
[2:02:52] Main Street Association has fund of
$1,500 to buy custom bike racks. So
[2:02:59] Wyatt and I worked together um and I
supported um Wyatt basically at at no
[2:03:04] cost to to design these four bike racks
to um get his input on them and then
[2:03:12] reach out to the supplier to to get a
quote. Um so um yeah, the main street
[2:03:19] director um he had
wrapped up into this. Um they're going
[2:03:25] to help share the cost of this. The
reason why these custom supplies are not
[2:03:30] in the original bid package is that if
that would be the case, MSA would charge
[2:03:39] design fees for it and the general
contractor would design or charge markup
[2:03:44] fees for it. Since they're custom
furnishings, he's anticipating there's
[2:03:48] going to be lots of back and forth on
it. So, the good contractor would mark
[2:03:52] it up high and then we got to pay the
general price to begin with. So, instead
[2:03:57] of um the quote, which I verified is
still um valid today, the quote of
[2:04:03] $3,500 or 347,9.77
[2:04:08] to be exact, um I would expect a quote
of of $20,000 for these four bike racks
[2:04:14] if they were in the original bid packet.
So this is a process um that um I took
[2:04:20] to decrease the cost, make it cost
effective um try to meet the main
[2:04:25] street's budget, but um we exceeded it
um by double here. So the village would
[2:04:30] have some cost here. Um and then this
process would be a similar process that
[2:04:34] I would be involved in with the heritage
committees sign. So, um, just a little
[2:04:40] point there
>> did a really good job of answering a
[2:04:43] question I hadn't asked yet, which is,
did we have any money in our original
[2:04:46] bid for this, which you said no, it
seems like the bid or Main Street or
[2:04:51] whoever has plenty of money. I'm not in
favor of the village paying for any of
[2:04:54] this. If if some other entity downtown
wants it, they can pay for it.
[2:04:57] » Reed,
you have a $400,000 budget shortfall.
[2:05:01] I'm not interested in putting bike racks
in. I
[2:05:03] » I made a statement, I think, at the last
meeting or one before. I'm not in favor
[2:05:07] of any more expenditures on
>> parks
[2:05:11] consider
>> other than what's already in the
[2:05:12] » CIP there. I mean, I'm even going to
have a hard time saying I want to match
[2:05:17] grant money because I don't know that we
have any money to match with,
[2:05:20] » right?
>> There is CIP dollars for um these
[2:05:24] supplies. Um but I really leave the
budget conversation for Devon or any
[2:05:30] comment. But I understand your point,
Mike. Very good.
[2:05:35] there CIP
dollars that would help cover this cost.
[2:05:40] » Uh we still we still have existing funds
from uh the previous borrow. Not a whole
[2:05:44] lot, but still have some existing funds
from the previous CIP borrow.
[2:05:48] » I see the value in this bike rack, but I
also agree with you two.
[2:05:53] » I' I'd rather put this into wayfinding
into signage
[2:05:57] » some other overage that we don't even
>> Yeah. That we don't even know about.
[2:06:00] Right.
>> I agree. Drew, you said you had
[2:06:06] conversation with Wyatt about the bid
paying for this.
[2:06:09] » They have a fund of $1,500 slated for
this, and that's how basically he
[2:06:14] directed me to go down this endeavor.
Um, I agreed to at no cost to try to
[2:06:19] help him create the design and then get
a supplies and bring it to the board.
[2:06:23] So, it was a lengthy process partially
because of the suppliers timeline and
[2:06:29] wise timeline and everything. Think so.
>> I've heard rumor that there's a metal
[2:06:34] supplier south of town that has plenty
of capacity in metal that he's would
[2:06:37] love to have spent on stairs.
>> I'm sad to hear that. Who's that? The
[2:06:43] BPS or something. Oh,
>> maybe have I go talk to him?
[2:06:48] » Yeah.
>> Probably get some free bike rides
[2:06:50] » and then he can pay you that 1,500
bucks.
[2:06:52] » Yeah, like I'd ask for it, Mike.
>> I think you should.
[2:06:57] » I'll ask for you.
>> It's nothing. [laughter] Anybody
[2:07:02] looking to propose some board action on
this item?
[2:07:09] Room seems pretty cold. All right,
moving on. 7D. Discussion to amend the
[2:07:14] village code to change the Schillberg
parks like schedule.
[2:07:19] » Uh yeah, so we've been uh we've fielded
a few comments the past year about the
[2:07:24] hours of Schillberg Park and the light
schedule that it's currently on. Uh
[2:07:28] we've asked some people have asked us to
extend the current hours that the lights
[2:07:32] are on. Our current our current village
code only allows the park to be open uh
[2:07:36] from from dusk to dawn basically a few
minutes here or there. Um our lights are
[2:07:43] currently on timers and um you know we
have people that are walking their dogs
[2:07:48] at 5:00 am to 11 o'clock at night that
want to make sure they're safe and
[2:07:51] walking in the park. I totally
understand that. Back to our
[2:07:54] conversation with parking. That means
the park would be open outside of
[2:07:57] village ordinance. Um so uh tonight the
discussion would be looking for
[2:08:01] direction to set Shelberg Park outside
of the ordinance hours and setting uh
[2:08:06] their own rate their own hours for
Shelberg Park if this is something we
[2:08:09] want to proceed with or we direct staff
um to keep the license that currently
[2:08:14] are on. And Todd is kind of he's been
answering a lot of the emails of people
[2:08:18] who have been asking so he can provide
more insight too.
[2:08:22] Yeah, as it states many requests but
from only the same few handful of
[2:08:26] residents requesting these additional
hours. Um kind of a weird scenario, you
[2:08:32] know, grant driven opportunity to put in
this wonderful pathway through village
[2:08:36] property. It's dark to the south, it's
dark to the north, but we do have these
[2:08:42] lights. Um, of course, we do recognize
being here all hours of the day and
[2:08:47] night. where we see it being mostly
utilized is before and after school for
[2:08:52] kids to get there. So, that's the
current program we've been running.
[2:08:56] Really haven't entertained doing uh
these longer uh schedules, but would
[2:09:02] certainly like some direction is to see
if we'd like them on any longer.
[2:09:06] » Do you foresee any complaints that the
lights are on from say 5:00 a.m. to 10
[2:09:10] p.m. or 11:00 p.m. from people in the
area that the lights are on?
[2:09:13] » I I'm not sure. leading up to the
industrial park in Education Avenue. No
[2:09:17] residential, no resident's
complaining given the location of the
[2:09:21] park. I mean, it's it's it's lit well.
It's a beautiful pathway. I would be
[2:09:24] opposed to extending the hours.
>> Yeah, it's a procedural thing. So, we
[2:09:28] would have to set we would have to
actually add to our code setting aside
[2:09:33] Schillberg's trail outside of the park
system because the parks are called out
[2:09:38] to be open from what is it a half an
hour before sunrise to a half an hour
[2:09:42] after sunset. Is that what it says?
It'll just be a sentence you add on that
[2:09:46] you know except for Schillberg they're
open from
[2:09:48] » it would say Schillberg's trail
Schillberg's lighting schedule C
[2:09:52] appendix whatever and then we can
>> I want to ask it going a little
[2:09:55] different direction on this we've got a
skate park or yeah skate park and a
[2:09:59] skating rink both of those I think
there's no reason we can't use them
[2:10:03] after dark um especially ice skating.
>> I don't think either one is illuminated
[2:10:07] are they? Oh, the ice rink is the skatep
park is not
[2:10:09] » okay,
>> which I would have thought it should
[2:10:12] have been and maybe it should be
someday. Um cuz it is getting a lot of
[2:10:15] use and it I'm all for changing the
Shelberg thing, but I feel like we ought
[2:10:22] to maybe incorporate some other things
too.
[2:10:24] » Yeah. And I will say if we do good
pickle ball in courts, no, they would
[2:10:27] want to go
>> um I would recommend not putting lights
[2:10:30] on because they will use them past past
the time limit. uh pickle ball courts
[2:10:34] have been but that's no longer here or
there on the agenda but just a heads up
[2:10:37] changing other things does have other
circumstances I think even a pickle bar
[2:10:40] court people use it after hours you get
a lot of
[2:10:43] » you know industrial parks got second and
third shifters
[2:10:46] » the big driver behind this is the
morning and evening walkers I think
[2:10:49] that's the they're out walking dogs and
they want a little bit more safety to be
[2:10:52] able to go out before the sun is up and
you know six months of the year this
[2:10:57] isn't as big of a concern or three four
months a year because the sun is coming
[2:11:01] up as early as 5:00,
but during the winter months when we get
[2:11:05] some warm weather, that's where it
becomes an issue. So, I mean, I'm
[2:11:09] thinking we would need to
>> have a lighting ordinance
[2:11:12] recommendation, some engineering.
>> No,
[2:11:16] » no, that's for commercial.
>> That's for industrial.
[2:11:20] » Hey, did it have to be just there?
>> Because that that's what we discussed
[2:11:24] was the industrial code part of that.
>> Yeah. Um
[2:11:28] I' I'd like to hear some uh that there's
other avenues there. I think we could
[2:11:32] adjust
we can incorporate one lighting
[2:11:35] ordinance maybe.
>> I know that Shbert Park is the the
[2:11:39] memorandum tonight, but I agree that
there is going to have to be a larger
[2:11:43] broader
>> subject. This is a two-step process.
[2:11:46] There'd be a board resolution tonight to
operate outside of the park schedule.
[2:11:50] That would satisfy
our behavior if we do lighting outside
[2:11:55] of the park's posted hours. But then the
longer the second step is to amend the
[2:12:02] village code setting aside whatever
defined park lighting that we want. And
[2:12:08] it could be
>> park lighting. you know, parks are open
[2:12:12] from this time to this time with the
exception of park lighting schedules
[2:12:16] referenced in appendix B or whatever.
And then in appendix B, we can put
[2:12:20] Schilbert Trail, we can put skate park
if it ever gets illuminated. We can put,
[2:12:24] you know, whatever. We just list them
right there and then we don't have to
[2:12:27] worry about amending our code more than
one.
[2:12:29] » Exactly
[2:12:34] six.
>> I say we wait. I don't know that I want
[2:12:37] to make a change for six people in town.
[2:12:42] I think one of the the what's going to
open a broader subject when it comes to
[2:12:47] parks and paths and lights and future
things too is uh the overall cost of
[2:12:51] these things. We have millions of
dollars in infrastructure just in the
[2:12:54] downtown alone. We own 129
municipal own street lights.
[2:13:00] I think the budget within the last two
years has grown from about 5 to$10,000.
[2:13:05] We spend over 25,000 just on street
light electricity. So when we do
[2:13:12] move forward with a potential decision
and growth and putting more
[2:13:15] infrastructure in, we have to look hard
at what the overall cost is going to be
[2:13:19] too because right now we're having a
hard time supporting that
[2:13:25] that $10,000 annual.
>> Sure. You're getting 70,000 hours out of
[2:13:29] a moving air than we are, you know, five
or 10. And the energy consumption is a
[2:13:33] lot less. So whatever you've had in the
numbers in the past hopefully are going
[2:13:37] adding more
>> energy consumption is low
[2:13:39] » maintenance is higher unfortunately from
what we're seeing right now seven eight
[2:13:44] years
>> you got the people coming on board too I
[2:13:48] maybe let them tackle this topic for
those six people and maybe that
[2:13:51] » yeah I think the bigger and then one of
the things that I'd like to see then
[2:13:54] just for my own knowledge
>> tell me how much it's going to cost to
[2:13:57] run the lights for six extra hours a day
>> that will be low and I will be easily
[2:14:03] easily be ble to get you uh that number
unfortunately
[2:14:07] » cuz that's I mean other than the
programming that's the only additional
[2:14:10] expense right the time that you spend
programming and then the electricity
[2:14:13] used in the life other than the life of
the bulbs I guess
[2:14:15] » yes the life is going to play a role in
the maintenance
[2:14:18] » so factor that in
>> I will advertise the life it's going to
[2:14:23] be a small number there's other
non-tangible values
[2:14:28] » well that's that's what I'm hoping to
arrive at is that the number is small
[2:14:31] enough that it didn't even need to rise
to the level of it being a board
[2:14:34] discussion other than the fact that it's
codified in our village code.
[2:14:38] » If it wasn't if it wasn't village code
would not be here.
[2:14:40] » It would already be done. That's the
thing. I think I think it's a beautiful
[2:14:43] walkway and it's underutilized
because it's not lit.
[2:14:46] » Yeah. And I and I think I would make the
motion right now and we could decide on
[2:14:50] the hours but that
>> that Schillberg be exempt from the other
[2:14:53] park hours for light for open to close.
>> It would have to be a board resolution
[2:14:58] that would then create a need to change
code later.
[2:15:01] » Let's make it happen.
I would support it if you if
[2:15:05] » I make that motion. Thank you. I have a
board resolution to exclude Shielbergs
[2:15:10] from the regular park schedule.
>> Second.
[2:15:13] » All right. We have a motion by Ron and a
second by Nicole. Can we get a better
[2:15:19] description of what this motion actually
is?
[2:15:25] [laughter] I'll let Carrie type for a
few minutes. Yeah.
[2:15:34] Such code number what number would be
>> yes reference.
[2:15:41] [clears throat]
[laughter]
[2:15:44] » Thank you. Discussion on the motion.
>> I'm flabbergasted. We're making code
[2:15:50] changes for six people.
[2:16:02] Yeah, I just
really don't know how many people would
[2:16:08] use it if there there were lights,
>> right?
[2:16:17] » Any other discussion on the motion? All
those in favor say I.
[2:16:21] » I.
>> Post say no.
[2:16:24] I don't know what Van's vote is, but
okay.
[2:16:27] » I think it would matter.
>> Matters in terms of the record.
[2:16:32] » Yeah. Well, he hasn't voted on anything
else yet
[2:16:34] » that we know of.
>> Are you going to be able to get
[2:16:37] information from him?
>> We can.
[2:16:39] » We should just do a thumbs up or a thumb
>> or something. I mean, I know that we're
[2:16:43] already
>> at this point. We just exclude him from
[2:16:45] the vot. We've only Yeah, we've only
published a five member board for
[2:16:48] tonight, but I would like to know what
his were
[2:16:51] » if it's [clears throat] even something
we could append in the minutes later.
[2:16:54] » Motion carries.
All right. Uh seven,
[2:17:00] what is it? Where are we on now? E
>> Y
[2:17:04] » Department of Public Works half ton
truck CIP purchase.
[2:17:08] » Yes. For 2026 27 CIP can improve budget
at P placement of public works half ton
[2:17:13] truck. Um, outside of this state bid, I
did procure another uh state bid
[2:17:19] locally. Uh, that came uh $7,000 over.
Truck wasn't quite apple to apples, but
[2:17:25] we're close. Um, we have a truck
potentially available to us that hasn't
[2:17:30] quite hit the ground uh from Dodge of
Burnsville. So,
[2:17:36] I would be happy to say that we'd like
to introduce the first hybrid vehicle uh
[2:17:40] municipality.
Um,
[2:17:44] again, we have not reviewed this truck
in its completeness other than the
[2:17:49] provided documents that I've showed you.
We would do that, of course, before
[2:17:54] getting a PO for the purchase of the
truck
[2:17:59] » truck while you're charging or is it
selfcharging?
[2:18:03] » Selfcharging.
>> Okay. Hybrid versus
[2:18:06] Well, be a plugin.
>> I'm not even opposed to a full electric
[2:18:09] at some point. Um to my comment from
before,
[2:18:13] just as with the the the
uh not the cameras, the Motorola radios,
[2:18:21] we found out that the state bid wasn't
the best solution.
[2:18:23] » Yeah.
>> And now we did look at two state bids.
[2:18:27] » I do two state bids. I'm very fortunate
um to be working somehow Dodge of
[2:18:32] Burnsville. uh they have this excellent
commercial fleet um manager that's able
[2:18:39] to get me regional and and state
discounts and then also looks internally
[2:18:43] for something even greater. So I could
tell you honestly that I could probably
[2:18:47] get a a a great deal on a big horn with
heated seats and all kind of stuff
[2:18:51] [laughter] I really could that would
come well under the RCIP number but this
[2:18:56] fits the bill for us. I think it's a
tremendous deal. I think it's a great
[2:18:59] price and I'm I'm shooting the messenger
today just because it's the message is
[2:19:04] for all the departments.
>> You know, we don't need to use the state
[2:19:07] contract. I don't know that it's a cheap
answer.
[2:19:10] » 40 grand seems cheap for a truck.
>> I'm not a Dodge guy. Um,
[2:19:16] we've tried the rest. I mean another
thing too uh just
[2:19:22] a little more background 2024 Ram 3500
we purchased also from Ram of Burnsville
[2:19:27] uh regional NAFTA rates state bid and we
ended up going with their price which
[2:19:33] was lower than both of them in 2024. So
in this scenario the state just happens
[2:19:38] to be the lowest. What's the FWP as
opposed to the MSRP
[2:19:45] on the price confirmation?
I was just a little confused by it
[2:19:50] because it's it's lower. Um
it's so the MSRP is uh 49 and that's
[2:19:58] what the state discount is going off of
and it's 40,700
[2:20:02] and then there's the FWP
and that's 479.
[2:20:09] » That's a good question I can certainly
ask.
[2:20:11] » Yeah. Like why aren't we going off of
that one? It's another two grand off.
[2:20:15] Well roughly
two grand off. No,
[2:20:20] » it's your
>> factory wholesale price
[2:20:23] » is it?
>> That's what the Google says.
[2:20:25] » Yeah, that's what we're getting to.
[laughter]
[2:20:28] » Got it.
>> But why can't we go off that one?
[2:20:31] [laughter]
>> Because that's what they
[2:20:34] » Yeah, that's what they bought it for
[laughter]
[2:20:38] stuff.
>> Give us a truck.
[2:20:42] » Oh jeez. [laughter]
Now you've done it. There you go.
[2:20:44] There's no wrong wrong thing about
asking for these things, especially with
[2:20:50] cars. Um, I'm in that process myself and
I always
[2:20:55] » I'm like, well, like what is this?
>> I support you getting a new car, by the
[2:20:59] way. [laughter]
I want to push it again. [clears throat]
[2:21:02] » I make a motion public works purchase or
have ton truck purchase, which we
[2:21:08] already approved.
>> A second. Motion by Ron and a second by
[2:21:13] Nicole to approve this purchase. All
those in favor say I.
[2:21:17] » I. Say no. Motion carries.
>> Thank you.
[2:21:21] » Thanks.
>> All right. 7 F utility department job
[2:21:28] description
plural.
[2:21:32] » Yeah, Rick's been busy.
>> Yeah, it's been a thing. Whole vibe.
[2:21:39] Uh what do we have first? Is it uh
Ralph's first operator description on
[2:21:43] your packet? [snorts]
>> Excellent. So I'll uh as we know we
[2:21:47] talked about last year uh Ralph has is
set to retire after 42 years of service.
[2:21:52] Um in anticipation of that I updated the
uh job description and am seeking
[2:21:56] approval uh for the job description and
posting the position uh left open by his
[2:22:01] retirement um so I can start the uh
process of filling the position.
[2:22:06] Sure
you know what you want. So I will make a
[2:22:11] motion we approve this job description.
Second motion by Arvid and a second by
[2:22:17] Mike to approve these descriptions.
There's two.
[2:22:21] » Oh, you want to do both at the same
time?
[2:22:23] » We could do both at the same time. I
guess it's in the uh
[2:22:25] » Is that what you meant, Arvin?
>> I was looking at one, but I certainly
[2:22:29] could be convinced to go to
>> amendment.
[2:22:33] Arbit meant peace. that too.
>> Do you want me to speak about the uh
[2:22:39] other one slightly?
>> We are. Yeah, we see it's related to the
[2:22:42] additional duties.
>> I for that idea.
[2:22:45] » Yeah. Okay.
>> Yeah. Good. They're they're well
[2:22:48] written.
>> Well, approve as presented, right?
[2:22:50] » Yes.
>> Good job,
[2:22:52] » 30 years in HR and these are well
written.
[2:22:54] » Thank you. Thank you.
>> All those in favor say I.
[2:22:58] » I. Post say no.
>> Carried. I do want to say next month we
[2:23:02] will be uh right next month but for
Ralph we will do a little ceremony for
[2:23:05] premier.
>> Yeah, I cleared it with him today. Um he
[2:23:08] said don't you said don't wait until I'm
not an employee.
[2:23:11] » Okay. [laughter]
>> So take or whatever.
[2:23:13] » I gave him the I gave him the option of
the March or the April meeting. So we
[2:23:17] will be honoring him at the next meeting
then for his years of service for the
[2:23:21] » Yeah. So we we had a good laugh over it.
But yeah, he said March meeting would
[2:23:24] work just
>> gonna be a little get together form and
[2:23:25] stuff too.
>> Yeah, we're we're working that as staff
[2:23:27] right now.
>> Working on that internally. So, thank
[2:23:30] you all.
>> Don't worry, I'm not the party planner,
[2:23:32] so it'll be much better attended.
>> Rick, party planner.
[2:23:37] » Me?
>> Yeah.
[2:23:37] » Oh, we we're'll work on it together.
[laughter]
[2:23:41] » I'm building right now. It's a whole
thing.
[2:23:44] » I'm not drinking the punch. [laughter]
>> It's a whole thing right now.
[2:23:49] » All right. Thank you all.
>> Thank you.
[2:23:52] » All right. Uh 6G, application for
payment number one, rebid bluff tower
[2:23:57] water main replacement. It's the next
few are all on Eric here. I'll let them
[2:24:01] present on these.
>> All right. Yep. This is just what it
[2:24:04] says. It is application for payment
number one for the Bluff Tower project
[2:24:09] and roughly the amount of or I'll say
the exact amount of $7,870.75
[2:24:17] um and all work associated with a tree
clearing. So the project manager for
[2:24:24] Minger noted he's like basically I I
want to cover my my sub's bill. That's
[2:24:28] what he's looking to do. So, the work is
work is done.
[2:24:33] » I will move to approve this application
for payment.
[2:24:35] » I'll second.
>> Motion by myself and second by Nicole to
[2:24:39] approve this payment for the Rebid Bluff
Tower water main replacement project.
[2:24:44] » Well, he's covering more than just
a little bit.
[2:24:49] » Oh, he's got mobilization.
>> Yeah, he's got gas.
[2:24:53] Um,
>> any other discussion on the motion? All
[2:24:56] those in favor say I. I post say no.
Carried.
[2:25:01] Uh 6H or 7H, sorry. River Street and
Third Avenue reconstruction
[2:25:07] authorization to bid.
>> All right. So, we've talked about a
[2:25:11] little bit earlier that Devon and I um
had a a public involvement meeting last
[2:25:17] week. That was not with public went over
the project. Again, uh we are at a a a
[2:25:22] stage in the design process. We're
asking the village board for approval to
[2:25:28] go to bid. Um Mike had asked a couple of
questions about lighting and sidewalk.
[2:25:33] And I can kind of go through the
different items that we're including in
[2:25:36] the plan, but specific to lighting,
there is new lighting along the the
[2:25:42] stretch. Um, we're adding a light pole
on third a
[2:25:50] about say a third of the way into the
block and then there's a light pole on
[2:25:55] the corner.
>> So you're in here.
[2:25:58] » Um,
can't quite see where you're putting
[2:26:02] actually, but down on third.
[2:26:08] » Yep. So a little bump out. We were
looking at your packet too or online on
[2:26:13] the bump out on the north side of third
and then on the corner of river and
[2:26:16] third and then we've got a light pole
mid block on the west side of river.
[2:26:22] It's um there's a light pole that's
there now actually an Excel pole Excel
[2:26:26] light that will be removed
[clears throat] and then we've got two
[2:26:30] up near the intersection of 4th Avenue.
the the sidewalk along the Gang
[2:26:37] development will ultimately be the
villages. It's on in the rideway, but
[2:26:42] the AIO Bluff Apartments project will
install that sidewalk as part of their
[2:26:46] project. Just correlates better. That's
what they had shown on the plans that
[2:26:50] were approved by the board as well. It
correlates with construction schedules
[2:26:55] that village puts in the curb street.
They'll be putting on the sidewalk and
[2:26:59] the landscaping on that site.
um go on with I guess the improvements
[2:27:07] that we're doing. Uh placing the water
and sewer mains over 100 years old. All
[2:27:12] the services that are along the the
project corridor. We're installing storm
[2:27:17] sewer. That's what the red line is on
the the plan. So extends down to Third
[2:27:24] Avenue and then runs north. Couple of
inlets along the way. Uh we'll be
[2:27:30] eliminating, as I mentioned earlier, a
couple of outfalls. Uh one's kind of
[2:27:35] directly west of 4th Avenue and then one
is is just north of where the old
[2:27:41] hospital was located. Those will be
one at the old hospital will be removed
[2:27:46] and the one that's just north will be be
plugged and left. Actually, pipe will be
[2:27:50] left. It runs underneath drive.
>> Is it on private property? It
[2:27:54] » is on private.
>> So, it's just going to be plugged and
[2:27:55] left. [clears throat] Has there been
conversation with the property owners on
[2:27:59] that?
>> Yep. Actually talked to them at length
[2:28:02] after the meeting about that and a few
other things. So,
[2:28:06] » okay.
>> And then the storm will actually extend
[2:28:10] up to Lad Park. There's a little park
that's just a residential lot basically
[2:28:16] that's been turned into park and we'll
create a new outfall to the river there.
[2:28:20] There's another outfall that's directly
west of Fifth Avenue um that we could
[2:28:26] have taken the storm for all the way up
to that and discharged there. We decided
[2:28:31] as staff to put it on Lad Park um being
on village property being able to
[2:28:36] maintain it. uh felt like a better
solution than ultimately the outfall
[2:28:42] that's on private property at fifth um
could be eliminated that storms were
[2:28:48] directed down to this new outfall
>> and are the easements and everything
[2:28:52] taken care of now like we don't have
anything missing anywhere anymore
[2:28:55] » so working on that one we're working on
that so there's there are not easements
[2:29:00] on the existing outfall that's currently
remaining at fifth
[2:29:04] » we we met with that with with that
homeowner last week Okay.
[2:29:07] » Yeah. And so, uh, we will be working on
>> That's phase two, right? That's that's
[2:29:12] in the phase two area.
>> It's in the
[2:29:14] » Yeah. So, eventually we would like to
dead on that one, get rid of that
[2:29:16] outfall, too, being on private property
and just accessing everything through
[2:29:20] the outfalls and the one on village
property. Then,
[2:29:23] » Glad Park. Yeah.
>> Um, there will be some storm water
[2:29:29] quality improvements. Uh, one of the
manholes we fitted with some some
[2:29:33] functionality that helps take out
sediment and and trash and things that
[2:29:37] just keeps it out of the river.
We're doing some landscaping similar to
[2:29:43] what's down on on First A and Chieftain
the bumpouts, you know, the low
[2:29:50] maintenance type type stuff.
Um,
[2:29:56] » how is this going to go in conjunction
with the gone property? So, because I
[2:30:01] wouldn't want to put any landscaping or
anything until that's done just because
[2:30:05] of trap like
>> Yes. So, the the landscaping like on the
[2:30:10] g side will be they'll do that as well.
>> Okay.
[2:30:14] » So, there's the the kind of corner on
the southwest there.
[2:30:19] » They will landscape that space.
>> Okay.
[2:30:22] So,
>> I'm assuming you're going to submit more
[2:30:26] than four drawings, right? Because it's
only a partial package. Is there four
[2:30:29] here?
>> Uh, there's only one drawing.
[2:30:32] » Oh, sorry. I was thinking there's four
of something. Maybe I was thinking of a
[2:30:35] different
>> So, no, I'm not asking for approval of
[2:30:39] the plans. I'm asking for authorization
to go to bed.
[2:30:43] » I um I'm going to stumble again with
this because I don't know why we can't.
[2:30:49] Um, along the same lines of what Nicole
was just suggesting, there's there's
[2:30:54] going to be
um assets that Gan's going to install,
[2:30:59] then I'm going to say suggest are not
going to be clear who's going to
[2:31:02] maintain them in the long term. Um, and
I can appreciate your landscape
[2:31:06] architect is going to probably call out
some neat things, but Todd's going to
[2:31:10] get stuck maintaining them or there's
going to be a piston match between us
[2:31:13] and gone. So I
well and and you know Todd and and staff
[2:31:20] everybody's staff levels is reviewing
the plans. Todd and Rick have been
[2:31:25] involved throughout um they on what gone
does you know the sidewalk uh I think
[2:31:35] it's clear what's what's in the rideway
and what is not. And so they'll be
[2:31:40] submitting um landscaping plans. we
talked about too was brought up at a at
[2:31:45] a different meeting
or want to look at a I don't know if you
[2:31:52] call it a a memorial plaque but a a
plaque recognizing
[2:31:56] the the hospital location and those that
that used to work there. Um, we have
[2:32:01] talked about that with them as well of
maybe what they do is they set aside a a
[2:32:06] spot for a bench and a plaque um up on
the the River Street Rideway and we
[2:32:13] figure out exactly what that is. Glad
that that was part of the discussion
[2:32:17] that was brought up by more than one
resident. So,
[2:32:22] uh, remind me what these colors are
again. So, red represents the um,
[2:32:26] » red is storm sewer.
>> Storm sewer. Okay. Green is sanitary and
[2:32:30] and blue is water.
>> Got it. Thank you.
[2:32:37] » When the um the schedule of when this
gets done, our work would happen after
[2:32:42] Dawn's done
>> simultaneously.
[2:32:44] » Same time.
>> So they they're starting um potentially
[2:32:48] next month.
>> When do you think they're going to be
[2:32:51] done with like u their their crane type
equipment?
[2:32:56] » Yes, we have talked about that. making
sure a final lift does not happen until
[2:32:59] all heavy equipment's out that wouldn't
damage the the existing.
[2:33:03] » Right.
>> I I'm going to
[2:33:06] where I was going with this is I'm going
to suggest there's time that we can wait
[2:33:08] to see a more complete set of plans.
It's I I want to make it be nice to see
[2:33:13] some language to make sure everybody's
clear who owns what. Make silly as it
[2:33:17] sounds, make sure they understand that
to clean their own sidewalks and that
[2:33:19] we're not going to lose code. I get it.
But it's I ran into this in bigger
[2:33:24] cities where you they put something in
and assume you're just going to take
[2:33:27] care of it because it's a your sidewalk
or something. Um the
[2:33:34] like little things like the developer
agreement in Visa that covers that.
[2:33:40] I hope to never hear about it again
then. I hope I hope nobody in that the
[2:33:43] Grace apartment ever complains about the
light you're putting right outside their
[2:33:46] bedroom window.
um
[2:33:50] » or Todd ever complains about a bush or a
tree that it got put in some landscape
[2:33:54] area because it didn't pay the bank
anymore. So I
[2:34:01] » I guess my my concern that it's
happening simultaneously
[2:34:05] is making sure that
>> some of that standard construction
[2:34:10] » Yeah. that everyone's working together.
>> This isn't uncommon when you have two
[2:34:14] projects in the building going at the
same time. I'd agree with that
[2:34:16] wholeheartedly. And I know Steve, which
one is did Steve bidden get?
[2:34:20] » Uh, we haven't This is God forbid yet.
That was Ridge Road.
[2:34:22] » Ridge. Okay. You're going to whoever's
going to be there doesn't want to
[2:34:26] warranty their street, assuming there's
another construction project going on.
[2:34:30] So, they're going to pick a schedule
that's going to say, "Okay, we're not
[2:34:32] doing that final lift, which is that
last 3 in of asphalt or something,
[2:34:36] » right?"
>> However, it just I don't see the
[2:34:39] schedule to push this that fast. I'd
like to see more drawings.
[2:34:44] Well, and we have um we have more
detailed drawings. We were actually at
[2:34:49] 90% until a change we made just last
week and now we're making some
[2:34:53] adjustments. Um, I made the conscious
effort not to put the plans in the in
[2:34:59] board's packet and uh provide just kind
of more of a graphical
[2:35:04] um and you know it can be different but
I'm
[2:35:09] utilizing staff myself for basically the
engineer plans um and the the board for
[2:35:19] the project. I I I have full
[clears throat] confidence in the staff
[2:35:22] and and you and and Devon working
together in the process. So, I'm going
[2:35:26] to make a motion to authorize the bid of
River Street Third Avenue
[2:35:29] reconstruction.
>> I'll second.
[2:35:34] » There's no construction schedule in the
original request for bid for the water
[2:35:38] tower and that really put us in a
predicament
[2:35:42] and that was your initial
set of plans.
[2:35:47] So I I I don't have the same confidence.
So
[2:35:52] Mike speaks opposed. Is there anybody
that has any other discussion on the
[2:35:57] motion on the floor?
[2:36:02] Seeing another no other discussion,
we'll proceed to the vote. All those in
[2:36:06] favor say I.
>> I. Post say no. Motion here.
[2:36:13] » Okay. Moving on. 7 I Ridge Road
Extension bid review and authorization.
[2:36:20] » Yeah. So, this didn't make it in the
electronic packet and that's what was
[2:36:23] handed out and and was nice enough to
print it out for me uh twice.
[2:36:27] » Yeah. Go on the website. It'll be going
on the website tomorrow.
[2:36:31] » Um and and the reason it didn't make it
in is because we actually opened it this
[2:36:35] morning.
>> Yeah. And um we did that uh basically to
[2:36:40] gain a week of of it being out there for
contractors to find and to bid on. Um we
[2:36:47] received eight bids. You can see the the
different contractors listed. Maybe I
[2:36:52] can read them out for the public to know
too. We've got
[2:36:58] JNS General Contracting, Albertson and
Excavating, A1 Excavating, Stout
[2:37:03] Construction,
[2:37:08] Total Excavating, Tri City Con,
Contractors, O Suns, and Minger
[2:37:14] Construction
Biders with JNS being the low bid at
[2:37:22] 873,000.
$45.85.
[2:37:27] Um, our last construction estimate was
about 1.1 million.
[2:37:34] And so it's it's in the range and and
lower. I mean, everybody was kind of
[2:37:39] right there. Um, the highest being about
1.25
[2:37:46] million.
[2:37:49] I did talk to JNS after the bid, asked
them if they were comfortable with where
[2:37:54] their numbers were at
project. Um they they are comfortable.
[2:38:01] Um
>> they're they're currently on site for
[2:38:04] the Worer project. They're the
contractor working for Worer which
[2:38:12] » So was anybody else a 40% swing to
warrant of concern,
[2:38:18] » right? They have no mobilization costs.
None.
[2:38:23] I meant figuratively. Yeah.
[2:38:31] » And the the health of the tips like this
number too.
[2:38:35] most important
>> 15,000. Yeah.
[2:38:36] » Yeah.
>> 30,000 less.
[2:38:40] » So, we feel um confident that JNS can do
the work. Um we will be out there doing
[2:38:47] inspection. Well, on your approval, the
construction administration contract
[2:38:51] which we'll bring to next meeting, but
we've got to be out there. or somebody
[2:38:56] has to be out there for inspection of
water and sewer and say that that
[2:39:02] » Albright Albrightson has done work for
us too, right?
[2:39:05] » Yes.
>> And their numbers really close.
[2:39:07] » Yeah.
>> They did the demo of the skate park
[2:39:10] house, didn't they?
>> No, Albertson did uh Simmon.
[2:39:13] » Oh, that's right. They did Simmon Drive.
Yeah.
[2:39:16] » Oh, they did the the pavement out here.
Yeah.
[2:39:19] » Only 90
>> They did the parking lot and some of the
[2:39:24] street pavement last summer, too. So we
we've done work with all brason also
[2:39:27] that
>> yeah but the total bid comes in
[2:39:29] » right
>> it's it's everybody it's it's games we
[2:39:32] play
>> I move we award this to JNS
[2:39:37] motion by myself second by Mike to award
this bid to JNS any discussion all those
[2:39:42] in favor say I
>> I post say no motion carries
[2:39:49] 7J
discussion regarding resolution 2602
[2:39:54] petitioning the secretary of
transportation for airport improvement
[2:39:58] aid.
>> Um this these are uh resolutions that
[2:40:03] have the board has approved in the past.
This is for the airports um
[2:40:09] um aids that they they get. It has to be
approved at the board level, not at the
[2:40:13] airport commission level. So that's why
it's before you tonight.
[2:40:15] » There's no money on out of our pockets
or this.
[2:40:18] » I would make a motion that we approve
this resolution.
[2:40:20] » A second. Motion by Mike and a second by
Nicole to adopt resolution 2602. Any
[2:40:26] discussion?
[2:40:31] » Yeah, it's a maintenance building, a new
control power.
[2:40:36] » It's They might not build them.
>> They ask for money for
[2:40:40] » They ask for the money.
>> That's right. [laughter]
[2:40:43] » Schools are ambitious.
>> I just want people to know that doesn't
[2:40:47] mean they're doing it. They're just
>> getting the funds. Yes.
[2:40:49] » Yeah. They're trying.
>> All right. All those in favor say I.
[2:40:54] » Post say no.
>> Motion carries. All right. Before we
[2:40:58] move to item eight, which is future
agenda items and updates, we have a
[2:41:01] procedural issue to take care of. We
have a reconsideration. So
[2:41:05] reconsideration by Robert's rules. Um,
in order to move motion reconsideration,
[2:41:12] the motion must be made by a member of
the board and the prevailing voting
[2:41:17] side. I believe this was a unanimous
vote. So any one of us can move to
[2:41:21] reconsider the motion that was made
pursuant to agenda item seven
[2:41:27] [sighs and gasps]
[2:41:30] » six.
[2:41:33] Yeah,
>> it's item six. So uh I move we
[2:41:38] reconsider item six.
Typically motions to reconsider require
[2:41:44] roll call vote. Uh so if there's no
discussion on this motion we will
[2:41:48] proceed through roll call
Nicole
[2:41:53] Harvet Ron myself as an I and Mike.
>> So it's unanimous. So this item has been
[2:41:59] recalled and is now open for discussion.
Carrie do you want to give us the
[2:42:03] details on what we should be doing now?
[2:42:17] It's whether we're going to bill people
that do not have utility accounts with
[2:42:21] the village or if we're only going to
build people that have utility accounts.
[2:42:24] » These are land owners in the village
that do not currently utilize village
[2:42:28] utility hookups.
>> Yes.
[2:42:30] » Got it.
>> So, yeah, we we would have to create new
[2:42:34] accounts for these people and find out
who they are or we're not going to bill
[2:42:36] them at all. So, that's kind of what
what the
[2:42:39] » thoughts I don't want to bill them.
>> No.
[2:42:45] » Not using sounds latigious.
>> Why don't you make that clear motion and
[2:42:50] somebody
>> If somebody would like to propose a
[2:42:53] motion that we adopt ordinance 2601
excluding non
[2:42:59] utility customers.
[2:43:04] Second
>> motion by Mike, second by Nicole to
[2:43:08] adopt ordinance 2601 amending chapter
2011 utility to add article 6 storm
[2:43:12] water utility to village code excluding
non utility customers.
[2:43:18] » You had a puppet changing.
[2:43:23] » Is there any discussion? Excuse me. We
are not in public comment at the moment
[2:43:28] and the public hearing is complete on
this. We don't need to have another
[2:43:32] public hearing for something that's
already complete.
[2:43:39] Is there any further discussion on the
motion on the floor?
[2:43:43] All right. All those in favor say I. I.
Post say no. Motion carries. All right.
[2:43:48] Now, we've corrected that issue. Uh item
eight, future agenda items and updates.
[2:43:54] Uh moving around the room, Nicole.
[2:43:58] » Nothing. Harvid,
>> nothing. Congratulations on your
[2:44:01] retirement.
[2:44:05] » I don't have anything. Mike,
[2:44:14] we'll do that. And the budget every
>> Yeah, the budget is another issue. And
[2:44:18] wherever Neil is, I'm sure he wants us
to say it. So, budget $400,000.
[2:44:25] » I was a little busy last month with
budget stuff.
[2:44:28] » All right. Uh that's it everybody. We
are adjourned at 8:44. Thank you.
[2:44:58] I will
white t-shirt on top.
[2:45:02] » You better get your dog tag.
[2:45:09] » I always I always
probably always has a tag. He just
[2:45:14] doesn't wear
[laughter]
[2:45:18] » he doesn't
[2:45:40] like [laughter]
[2:45:53] I do have [laughter] a phone to pick
with
[2:45:55] » it.
I just
[2:46:04] » mean
[2:46:17] [laughter]
[2:46:25] we're not
[2:46:36] Yeah, because the vote that we took
after the public hearing was so
[2:46:40] everything that we do after public
hearing can be undone and re
[2:46:44] » the public hearing just provided
[2:46:49] action