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Good evening. We're going to begin the meeting of the

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Oshwa committee of adjustment Copies. Of tonight's agenda are located

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on the table off to the side there. Please be

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advised that if anyone wants a written copy of tonight's

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decisions, they must leave. Their name and address with the

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secretary treasurer by filling out the form on the bottom

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of the agenda. It's not necessary for the applicant or

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the representative to fill out the form as the information

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will be forwarded to them automatically. Land acknowledgment the city

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of Oshwa is situated on lands with a traditional and

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treaty territory of the Mississaugi and the Chipwa Anishna bag.

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Of the signatories of Williams Treaties, which includes a Mississaugas

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of Scugog Island, Curve, Lake Hiawatha, Alderville, First nations and

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the Chippewas of Georgina Island. Rama and Bosa lay first

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nations. We are grateful for the initiation of egg who

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have cared. For the land and waters in this territory

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since time immemorial. We recognize that Osha's steeped and rich

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indigenous history and is now present in a home of

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many First Nations, Inuit and Mati people. We express gratitude

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for the diverse group of. Indigenous peoples who continue to

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care for the land in shape and strengthen our community

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as a municipality. We are committed to understanding the truth

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of our shared history, acknowledging our role in addressing the

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negative. Impacts that colonization continues to have on indigenous peoples.

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Developing reciprocal relationships and taking. Meaningful action towards. Reconciliation. We

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are all treaty people. Reconcili. Introduce the members of the

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committee tonight. We have Fred Eisman. We have Doug Thompson.

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My name is Dean Lindsay. I'm the chair of the

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committee and. Tonight, the assistant secretary treasurer is Vashahan Muhanathan.

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The role of the committee, the committee of adjustment is

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appointed to by city council to hear applications for minor

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variances to the city's zoning bylaw. And interim control bylaws,

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extensions, enlargements or variations to existing legal nonconforming uses consents

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for creation of lots, lot line adjustments, long term leases,

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creation of easements and validation of title. Tonight's meeting will

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proceed as follows. The meeting will the committee will deal

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with the minutes. Of the previous meeting. The secretary treasure

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will announce the application being heard on tonight's agenda. The

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chair will then invite the applicant or their representative to

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come forward. The applicant or the representative will be asked

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to briefly explain the proposal and answer any questions from

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the committee, any other members of the public, whether in

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person or via phone, who have questions or concern will

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then be invited to speak. The applicant will be given

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the opportunity to respond to the questions and concerns. The

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committee members will then discuss the application and make a

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decision. If you're speaking, please. Address your remarks to the

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chair. Please do not repeat any questions or concerns already

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raised by others. But focusing, but focus on adding new

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information. Those who wish to speak are asked to clearly

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give their name and an address to the secretary. Treasurer

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to be recorded in the minutes and in accordance with

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the Planning act. The applicant, the city or specified persons

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has defined under the Planning act may appeal the decision

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to the committee of adjustment through the Ontario Land Tribunal

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within 20 days of the date of the. Decision. Please

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be advised that decisions tonight of the Committee of adjustment

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are not final in binding until the appeal procedures have

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expired and there are no appeals to the Ontario land

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tribunal. So I ask the committee. Is there any conflict

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of interest tonight? Seeing none. Okay. Did we receive a

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copy of committee members? Receive a copy of the minutes?

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Yes. Okay. I propose that we move to accept the

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minutes of the Wednesday, August 27 Committee of Adjustment meeting.

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As forwarded. Do we have a second ordinance? I'll second

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it. Okay. The minutes from the previous meeting have been

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moved and seconded. The vote, please. Dean Linnity. Yes. Fred

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Eisman. Yes. Doug Thompson. Yes. Minutes are adopted.

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Okay, so the secretary. Will. Now call on the first

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application. The application being considered as Rafael a 2025 57.

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For 643ft with drive submitted by Noble Prime Solutions Limited.

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The purpose and effect of this revised application is to

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permit a single detached dwelling, which may include an accessory

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apartment with the variances in column one below. And so

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the requirements in column two below, as required by zoning,

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bylaw 1694 for a single detached dwelling. In Ar one

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e residential zone. The zoning items being requested are related

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to minimum parking space width minimum parking space length and

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minimum landscape open space in the front yard. Staff have

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no objection to the approval of this application. So I

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think. We have. Dan vir on the line. Yes, sir.

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Okay, go ahead, please. And please give a brief description

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of your application for the committee. Thank you so much.

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We are proposing a secondary dwelling unit in the basement,

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for which we have the zoning bilater requirement of three

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car parkings on a site. Unfortunately, we cannot fit. The

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third car parking. So we are seeking the variance for

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the reduced size of parking. Last time we talked to

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the city. And we amended our execution based on our

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last hearing, so. We amended our application with the new

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parking size of 4.62 meters instead of 4.2. Meters. But

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if we actually calculate the length of the parking till

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the walkway. We have almost 5.4 meters without any interference

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with the sidewalk, which is pretty close. To what the

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city requirement or for the length of the parking, which

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is 5.75 meters. So we are taking a variance for

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that, along with the minimum laps gaping of 50% where

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we are proposing a landscaping of 31.35% of landscaping is

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up frontier. So we went back and forth in the

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city, and it was quite a deeper discussion with the

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planet and ultimately came up with the plan which city

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staff can support. So we are aligned with the report

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that the city guide was represented, but I'll be happy

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to address any questions that the committee may have regarding

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this. Thank you. Many members. Any questions? To the applicant's

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representative. Seeing none. Do we have anybody here in the

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delegation? In the audience that wants to speak to this

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application. Okay seeing none. We receive no public comments on

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this. Does it turn? No correspondence has been received. We've

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heard the application. Motion committee. Yes, chair. I recommend that

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we accept report number eight, 2025 57 for 643 Fleetwood

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Drive. With the one advisory comment. Paul second. The application,

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motion to approve the application and has been seconded. Any

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other comments from the committee? Seeing none. Vote, please. Dean

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Lindsay? Yes. Fred Eisemond? Yes. Doug Thompson? Yes. Application is

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approved. Thank you, Mr. Rob. Thank you so much. Thank

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you so much. I appreciate it. On the agenda, we're

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going to move item a 2025 64 to the end

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of. The agenda. So we'll move to the next item,

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number three on the agenda. Which is item a, 2025

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73 47 King Street East. The application being considered is

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file 820 25 70. For 347 King Street east. Submitted

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by Daniel Lawson. The purpose and effect of the application

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is to permit an accessory building ancillary to a single

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detached dwelling. With the variances in column one below and

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set of the requirements in column two below for an

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accessory building ancillary to a single touch dwelling in the

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r one C residential zone. The zoning items being requested

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are related to maximum height of an accessory building, maximum

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lock coverage for an accessory building. Maximum walk coverage for

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accessory buildings as a percentage of lot area and maximum

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lot coverage of accessory buildings as a percent of the

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main building staff have more objection to reapproval of its

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application, subject to a condition. And we have Susan Watson

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on the line. Hi, chair. I didn't have an answer.

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I'm going to try calling it back. One more time.

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For the members of the gallery. The representative has indicated

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that they were going to appear, so we're going to

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try to reach out to them. If we don't get

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them, we'll move this to the back of the agenda.

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Hello. We

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can move to death. Do it. Okay, so. We're going

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to move the item. Item number three, we're going to

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move this. To the back of the agenda so we

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can contact the representative. Okay, so now we're going to

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move to item four on the agenda, which is item.

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A 2025 70. 115 19 Sarasota Crescent, Crescently. I'll have

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the secretary treasurer read out the application. The application being

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considered is for file a 2025 71 for 1519 Sarasota

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Crescent. Submitted by Nostrad Jahan. The purpose and effect of

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the application is to permit a single detached dwelling, which

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may include an accessory apartment with the Ran Susan column

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one below instead of the requirement to column two below.

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As required by zoning bylaw 60 94 for a single

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statch dwelling in a r 25. Residential zone. The zoning

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items being requested are related to minimum landscape, open space

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in the front yard and minimum parking space length. Staff

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request that the application be denied. We have Das Rajahan

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online. Grab the representative for this application online. Yes.

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Okay, go ahead. Just state your name, please. And just

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briefly describe the application for the committee members. Good afternoon.

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Mr. Chair and the community. My name is Nishra Jahan.

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I'm speaking on behalf of the owner. Our current proposal.

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Is we are come the second time to this hearing.

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Previously on August 27 hearing. We had the parking space.

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Length for the third parking as 4.45. And the reduced

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landscape. Open space in the front yard was 43%. From

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there we have consult. Consulted with the staff. And revised

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and improved. On the parking space length for the third

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party at 4.7 meters. And. The landscape. Open space at

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the front here is 42%. I would request. Just for

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the presentation. Sorry. Just repeat that last number you had.

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The parking length. Couldn't hear you. Yeah, just repeat the

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I didn't hear the parking lake. Just repeat your number

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again, please. Yes. So. The target parking space have reduced

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parking length at 4.7 meters, but we have improved from

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our previous proposal, which was 4.45. After a consultation with

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staff, we have increased it to 4.7 meters as length.

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Okay, go ahead with your. Sorry I interrupted you there.

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Just continue on. Yes. So I have a presentation to

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make. If the staff. Can show it on the screen,

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please. Follow along.

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So the committee members have hard copy of the presentation.

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Okay, go ahead. Yes, thank you. We want to reflect

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on the staff comments and want to respond. The first

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comment that we received was proposed parking length of 4.7

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meters is too short. To reasonably accommodate various lengths of

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vehicles and is likely to result in vehicles overhanging on

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city property and obstructing the cut for pedestrians. Our response

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on that is. Historically, committee has approved 4.6 meters. The

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parking space. Parking space length. And like, even today, the

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previous application, 643ft Fleet Road, was approved for 4.6. Meters

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length. We have improved from there. Our proposal is 4.7

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meters and. We are hoping that this is a minor

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variance. Because for a 4.6 meters can accommodate. A wide

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range of vehicle sizes. Ours will. Two, because it's 4.7

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meters, so. There's no risk of overhanging onto CD property.

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As we are not going beyond the city property line.

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The boolean verb itself is 4.75 meters wide. And it

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leaves a clear 3.25 meters buffer after allocating 1.5 meters.

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Pedestrian access. This will ensure that there is no obstructive.

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There is no obstruction for the traditional movement and it

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will maintain the public safety. If you see the dotted

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line. As I have shown. The 1.5 meters at the

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front. If we keep it clear for pedestrian and we

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still have 3.25 meters. Free. Which is the city property

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and. After 3.25 meters, our parking space starts. The second

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point that staff made was vehicle entering an exiting garage

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may be obstructed. By bakery park in the accessory apartment

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space, which is the third space causing difficulty for ingressive.

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Rest on vehicle. Go ahead. Sorry. After consulting.

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Okay. Thank you. After contacting with the city staff as

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we revised, and we improved the parking layout. As 4.7

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meters. It leaves the clearance of 2.3 meters, if you

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can see. The blue line. In that presentation. Or in

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the ppT. Printout from the garage door. To. The third

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party space we have. A clear 2.3 meters, 7.5ft clearance.

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And we believe that. This configuration will support safe ingress.

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And we will be able to maintain the angle, minimum

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angle, between the garage and the parking space. To ensure

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smooth vehicle access. Regarding the safe ingredients, we are open

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to any reasonable condition that committee might want to impose.

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May be limiting space for compact vehicles to further address

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this concern, but. From the point of view of clearance

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from the front of garage garage door to the third

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parking space. We have cleared 7ft six inches. Clear. And

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it will be believed that that will be enough for

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the manufacturer of the vehicle, so that. Car from the

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parking space. One can get out and come through parking

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space. Two to the road. In the next slide. We

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have. Referred factual reference to a previous example. This one

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was approved by committee in January 23, and they had

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parking sizes 2.6 by 5.4. They had. The front distance

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from the front property line to the garage wall at

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20ft. And ours is. 23ft. They had distance between frontal

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garage door. To their third parking space, zero centimeter. We

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have 2.3 meters. And for them? The pressurely tendon was

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approved. So, looking at the history of approval that the

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committee made, we are requesting. Our magrograms to be approved.

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In the next slide we have commented on. The staff

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advice of the stereo location. We really acknowledge and appreciate.

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This addition for alternative design to relocate fear. However, as

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we discussed in previous meeting, we are not able to

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consider. For several key concerns at this point. Which are

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overall design integrity of the neighborhood, dysfunctional layout, efficient movement

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of hard, powerful items, and appliances safety and visibility lighting

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at the front of the front porch. Most importantly, the

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financial burden, the house owner will have. The owner have

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a discussion with several contractors, and he shared one of

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the code, which is at the last slide you can

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see the quote is dollar 10,000. And this is for

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the front landscaping. Driveway widening and still a relocation together.

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And this is a substantial amount for the owner, apart

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from. The other. Financial. Expense that he will have when

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he will convert it to second unit. So we are

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requesting. To the committee. To accept. Our variances, which are

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third parking space length, that's 4.7 meters. We have. Compliance

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in regards to the width. We also request variants for

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the landscape open space. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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I'm going to ask the just before I return over

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to the committee, I'm going to ask the staff, since

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you've made a presentation and it's regarding staff comments, I

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just want the staff to just briefly comment on a

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couple of points. If they could. Through the chair. So

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going point by point, I guess the first point that

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was made was that the previous application for Fleetwood was

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approved. For 4.65 a meter length. So the difference in

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that situation and the situation. As noted in the staff

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report for Fleetweb, the front lot line for Fleetwood is

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not parallel to the road. It goes away from the

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road as it goes further south. So that reduces the

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length that's available for Fleetwood. And that's why we mentioned

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that when you measure it to the sidewalk, you get

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5.4, which is ample space to fit cars of different

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various lengths, and that's before the sidewalk, so there's no.

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Real encroachment into the boulevard or such, or obstruction into

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the sidewalk. Whereas in this case there is no sidewalk

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for Sarasota. However. The city does not permit the parking

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lot vehicles on the boulevard, according to our traffic bylaw.

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Traffic and parking bylaw. And then with respect to. The

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previous filed for a 2024 125 for 1860 $2 equrezant

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so I think the situation there is. The parking size

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is being provided are 2.65.4. Which our sizes have been

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supported by staff historically. Again, you have ample length to

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maneuver vehicles in. And out of the parking space, in

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and. Out of the driveway without having to rely on

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the municipal boulevard. Further, the distance between the garage and

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the parking space isn't a primary concern. With respect to

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Sarasota based on staff's recommendation to relocate the steps. So

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in this situation, Staff recommended to the relocation of the

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steps in order to achieve at least 5.4 meters. Length

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which, as shown by the examples outlined by the applicant,

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had been approved and further, it would ensure that there's

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no tandem situation between the parking spaces and the garage

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space. So when we assess these applications. We advise on

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staff. 's suggested option, which was communicated to the applicant

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several times. We don't look at. We're not here to

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assess various alternatives. If there's an alternative where staff supports

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we'll provide that recommendation to the applicant. And it's for

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the applicant to either. Take into account tabs, advice, or

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to go with the proposal, as is the changes being

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made. On the subject proposal or have not been approved

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by or have not been recommended by staff and. We

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maintain that the relocation of the steps is a best

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way to provide the required parking space. Further, the committee

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has approved. Another. Similar application. On Sarah. Soda. Which is

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for, I believe, 1544 serves with a question. When the

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applicant was. Amenable to relocating the steps, and they subsequently

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did so and obtained their building permit application. Thank you.

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I'll turn it over to the committee. Committee, any questions?

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Go ahead. Yeah, just through you, chair. To the applicant.

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and thank you very much for your detailed proposal very

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much appreciated but again I have to agree with. The

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previous stance on the easiest location would be stair location.

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For my view. And I just notice, and I do

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thank you for the quote. You've attached to. But just

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bear in mind that a lot of those costs associated

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with this estimate. Are over and above. The stair relocation

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like there for other projects that you may need down

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the road. And it's great to have an all encompassing

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quote, but. I don't think. A pure. Stair movement. Moving

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the stairs would be. As substantial. That's all. Thank you.

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I just have a question, too, to Ms. Jana, too.

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Again. We discussed this, where the application came forward last

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time and again, and staff has reiterated that. The movement

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of the precast stairs would. Give you 4.5 meters because

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again, If I hear right what you're asking the committee,

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Is you're asking committee to go 4.7 and quite possibly.

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Make a caveat that all these small cars would be

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there. That's something that the committee is uncapable of doing

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so. It either has to meet the variance requirement, meet

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the four tests or else it can. So I guess

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the question is. It's back to the stair would give

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you ample room, which would be an acceptable. So. You

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looked at that and reviewed that, and I know you've

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got a quote for it. But you have looked at

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that, and again, there is examples where that has been

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allowed and. It's been an acceptable. Alternative design that would

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accept. For this. Year. Can

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I add one more information? Sure. Please do. So. About

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the example that we shared. That I shared 1862 download

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the press. They did not have any. Walkway or pedestrian.

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Provision at the front. I'm not sure. How? Many 50

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Google Maps. There's no walkway in front of the property,

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so definitely then to leave. Some part where the pedestrian

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exit, but I do not see from their proposal we

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are occupying. Up to the street level? Does your parking

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spaces are occupying up to the street level? So based

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on that fact, I was requesting. That this property did

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not leave any. Space for the pedestrian access yet approved.

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So if you can reconsider. This. Matter that I just

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discussed. Okay. Thank you. Anything else from the committee? Do

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we have any delegations here to speak on this application?

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Seeing none. Okay, so you've heard the application, so I'm

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going to move a motion that the application. Oh, I'm

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sorry. Come forward. Yeah, okay. Yes, you're welcome, certainly. Welcome

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to come up and add anything you have, anything new

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that you can add. Yeah, actually. I don't have. Additional

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some things just to add few points. i do appreciate

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your comment mr pet that regarding the Code we provided.

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I accept. Your comment that it is not only the

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relocation cost. So our intention was to give you. The

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information that we already explored various options. That was the

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intention. Okay. And secondly. I just want to add that.

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Since last, as advised by the committee last time. We

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reached out city staff several times. We have lot of

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emails, communication, back and forth, communications. And the alternative one?

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This time, the proposed design. Actually. The maybe option better

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option. We try to improve based on the solution from

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the CTS staffs. How about that side? It may not

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be accepted, but this could be one alternative options other.

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Than the relocations. we got from So that was our

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intention. Okay, maybe this one. And when we found this

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idea. We believed that. This is way mass improved than

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our fast proposal. But. I did not get the basic.

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Reasoning that it was not supported. And our analysis was

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identify these two core reasons. That mentioned in this report.

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One was. This reasonably accommodate. It is too short. It

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is too short to reasonably accommodate. That was one of

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the comment. But. My agent already described that historically we

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saw 4.6 was pawns of approvals. Was approved. So we

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believe that 4.7 might be a good option. So that

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was our understanding. But. you might be considered this different

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way I appreciate your thought, but our understanding was maybe

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4.6 is good enough to be approved. Second. Comment was.

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That. Existing Garris may obstruct. Obstructly concluded that it will

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overstart or it shall overstact. So that is not. I

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would say not. Solid argument, but yeah, probably. We don't

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know. But we have provided some example that we have.

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Enough. Clearance between the parking. Carriage vehicle and between the

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accessory parking 7.5ft clearance. Our perspective, that is. Way more

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clearance. To ingress aggressive of this park vehicle in our

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parasitic. Because, say, for example, when I parked a vehicle

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parallel parking in a street, how much clearance I keep

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in front of my car maybe 2ft. But I am

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still able to get in, get out of this parallel

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parking from the estate or. Any parking parallel parking lot.

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That was our idea. Or that was our belief. I

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am not an expert on this, but those. Were our

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understandings. It's up to committees. This hide. You will be

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convinced with our argument or not. But I can say

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that. Ctstab did not say it shall obstruct or it

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will overstrack. But. There is suspicion. It may. So based

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on those facts, I would still request to approve in

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our case, but. I really appreciate that. Alternative design could

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better fit. I really appreciate that. No doubt. But. If.

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Our proposed current purpose design approved. Then why not? That

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would be my question. If it fits your expectation, then

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why not? That is my question. I'm going to say

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it again, is that. The alternative design. Gives you. 4.5

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meters or 5.4 meters. So there wouldn't be any discussion

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or any clarity. Need for clarification on how much ingress

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egress to get there, or the space between the vehicle,

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it's going to give you plenty of room. The alternative

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design. That's the challenge. Because. The current design. Is based

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on. While we might be able to get people through,

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we might not be able to get through. And staff

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has said very clearly. It would be obstructed. And would

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not give people enough space. You're moving of the alternative

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design gives you 5.4 and meets what you need. I

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accept. Your thing that. That could be the 5.4 we

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could make. Yeah. Okay. If you see this design, it

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could be also extended to 5.4 meters right now. We

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reduced 7.4.7 y because we want to keep more space

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in the design. So that easily we can come out,

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but actually it can fit more than more than 4.7

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it can go up to 5.4 if you see the

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drawing. Yeah. There is more clearance, but. Why do we

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keep 4.7 in the drawing? Because we want to keep

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more space, so. That we can maneuver the. Garaged park

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easily, but we do have a space 5.4 but we

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did not show. So that easily it can go. We

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have a space. We cannot say that we don't have

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a space. We have a space. Right. I'm just going

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to add this, too, and I think it's important for

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context. Is the committee has to review every application. And

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every application have to review is based on what? They

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call the foretest. So, as a request, minor nature, is

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it desirable for the appropriate development. And use of the

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land, building or structure, and these are the key ones,

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in the opinion of the committee. Is the general intent

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purpose of the official plan maintained and in the opinion

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of the committee is the general intent and purpose of

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the zoning bylaw maintained, and those are the four tests

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that need to be met. Do you have anything, dad?

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Anything else? No, that's not. Thank you very much. Just

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turn. Your mic off, please. Thank you. Committee. Any questions?

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Okay, I'm going to move a motion that the application

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be denied that. It does not meet the four tests.

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And it's as set out in the four tests, as

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set out in the procedures. And I will second that.

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We've got a motion to deny the application. We have

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a motion to second. Can we. Have a vote, please.

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Dean Lindsay? Yes. Fred Eismont? Yes. Doug Thompson? Yes. Application

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is denied. So. What I would suggest to do. And

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the same thing I suggested to you last time is

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the city staff has been more than open, and you

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admitted that you've had a number of emails going back

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and forth. You can continue your work with the city

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staff and look at the procedure. And again. And I

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said this last time. Staff do an excellent job working

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with applicants to try to make sure that it meets.

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The tests and maintains the bylaw and maintains. The work

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required through planning. Unusual because I've

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given you an opportunity to speak. We've had a vote,

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but. Go ahead. I want to give you a chance

468
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to. Sorry about that. Yeah. I do accept. So in

469
00:38:23,139 --> 00:38:27,219
that case. Can I go back to this question again?

470
00:38:27,219 --> 00:38:29,779
So in that case, you are saying this if it

471
00:38:29,779 --> 00:38:35,763
is denied. What are the alternative options? I could accept

472
00:38:35,763 --> 00:38:39,632
the city's relocation approval. That will be. Then last option.

473
00:38:40,736 --> 00:38:43,376
You have the ability to appeal the decision that you

474
00:38:43,376 --> 00:38:47,150
have the ability to appeal the decision tonight. And then

475
00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:49,750
you have the ability to work with the staff and

476
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:52,910
come back with an alternative design. Because this design has

477
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:56,740
been denied by the committee. Well, actually, this. We have

478
00:38:56,740 --> 00:38:59,500
spent a lot of time on this file. We don't

479
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:04,188
want. To more drag this file we want to close.

480
00:39:04,188 --> 00:39:08,649
Actually, my intention is to close. This if you are

481
00:39:08,649 --> 00:39:12,969
not accept with our alternate hazards design today, so probably

482
00:39:12,969 --> 00:39:17,512
we will go ahead. With this city's relocation plan. So

483
00:39:17,512 --> 00:39:19,872
that will be my last, because we don't want to

484
00:39:19,872 --> 00:39:24,019
drag this more. It will be the city's time and

485
00:39:24,019 --> 00:39:26,339
effort and our side effort and time. So I want

486
00:39:26,339 --> 00:39:29,713
to close this file, so. We will agree with this.

487
00:39:29,713 --> 00:39:32,793
It is relocation. And I thank you for being here.

488
00:39:32,793 --> 00:39:35,233
And again, you've appeared twice. And again, I thank your

489
00:39:35,233 --> 00:39:39,846
representative. And I think. We've had a very good discussion

490
00:39:39,846 --> 00:39:44,487
about this. Your representative. Can also advise you of the

491
00:39:44,487 --> 00:39:48,729
next steps. And again. And staff can also advise you

492
00:39:48,729 --> 00:39:51,569
of the next steps. Okay. Yeah. Thank you very much.

493
00:39:51,569 --> 00:39:55,471
Thank you. Bye. I think you need to stay. We're

494
00:39:55,471 --> 00:40:03,557
going to move now. To item number nine. Yeah. We're

495
00:40:03,557 --> 00:40:10,314
going to move to item number nine. ms jana because

496
00:40:10,314 --> 00:40:12,874
you're the applicant on that so we're going to move

497
00:40:12,874 --> 00:40:15,594
that item up on the agenda so i'll have the

498
00:40:15,594 --> 00:40:19,795
secretary treasurer Read application a 2025 78. The application being

499
00:40:19,795 --> 00:40:25,275
continuous for file a 2025 78 for 184 Selena street.

500
00:40:25,275 --> 00:40:28,235
Submitted by no shrat Jahan. The purpose and effect of

501
00:40:28,235 --> 00:40:31,355
his application is to permit a single touch, dwelling and

502
00:40:31,355 --> 00:40:34,995
an accessory building ancillary to a single detached dwelling. With

503
00:40:34,995 --> 00:40:37,715
the variances in column one. Below instead of the requirements.

504
00:40:39,275 --> 00:40:41,755
In column two below, as required by zoning bylaw 60

505
00:40:41,755 --> 00:40:45,475
94 for a single detached dwelling and an accessory building

506
00:40:45,475 --> 00:40:48,195
ancillary to a single detached dwelling in a r two,

507
00:40:48,195 --> 00:40:50,875
r three, r. Five, c, r six, b and r

508
00:40:50,875 --> 00:40:54,235
seven a residential zone. The zoning m is being requested.

509
00:40:54,235 --> 00:40:58,315
I'll relate to maximum lack coverage, minimum front yard depth.

510
00:40:58,315 --> 00:41:01,995
Minimum interior side dry depth for an accessory building. Maximum

511
00:41:01,995 --> 00:41:04,395
lot coverage for accessory buildings as a percentage of the

512
00:41:04,395 --> 00:41:07,515
lot area. Maximum lot coverage of all accessory buildings as

513
00:41:07,515 --> 00:41:10,395
a percentage of the main building. And maximum ground floor

514
00:41:10,395 --> 00:41:13,729
area of all accessory buildings. Staff request that the. Application

515
00:41:13,729 --> 00:41:18,050
be reserved. Hey, Mr. Could you briefly describe the application

516
00:41:18,050 --> 00:41:23,323
for the committee? Good afternoon. Comedy. Mr. Terra, my name

517
00:41:23,323 --> 00:41:27,603
is Nishra. I'm representing for the property. 184 seminar street.

518
00:41:32,244 --> 00:41:37,168
At the time. When we applied for minor variance application.

519
00:41:38,962 --> 00:41:43,092
We have only one variant. At first zoning notice, which

520
00:41:43,092 --> 00:41:50,275
was minimum. Five year death for the Adu. As we

521
00:41:50,275 --> 00:41:56,262
went. Through as the community staff went through the full

522
00:41:56,262 --> 00:42:01,902
review. With the building department. We figured that there are

523
00:42:01,902 --> 00:42:07,789
other variances in this property. So we have decided to

524
00:42:07,789 --> 00:42:12,269
work with the staff, reserve this application, have a full

525
00:42:12,269 --> 00:42:16,520
discussion with them. How we can improve. These variances, so

526
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:21,990
I'm requesting the committee to reserve this application. Thank you.

527
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:26,426
Members of the committee, any questions? Just through. You chair

528
00:42:26,426 --> 00:42:30,523
for the applicant. I was just curious. With the closed

529
00:42:30,523 --> 00:42:34,539
entrance way. Is it also a home based business or

530
00:42:34,539 --> 00:42:41,526
professional office? At 184 Salina Street. At this point, I

531
00:42:41,526 --> 00:42:46,729
do not have any knowledge of any business. I do

532
00:42:46,729 --> 00:42:53,923
not know if the owner has any. Business out there,

533
00:42:53,923 --> 00:42:58,714
so. I have to ask the owner. Okay, thank you.

534
00:43:01,751 --> 00:43:04,594
any other questions for the committee to ms shannon Is

535
00:43:04,594 --> 00:43:06,194
there any members of the public here to speak of

536
00:43:06,194 --> 00:43:12,607
this application? Okay seeing none. So. The city is requesting

537
00:43:12,607 --> 00:43:15,167
a reserve of decision. And again. And the applicant is

538
00:43:15,167 --> 00:43:21,070
actually requested that too. So I'll entertain a motion. Mr.

539
00:43:21,070 --> 00:43:27,867
Chair. I move that for application a 2025 78. The

540
00:43:27,867 --> 00:43:31,700
decision is to reserve. Second or on that I will

541
00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:37,032
second that. Any other comments from the committee? Seeing none,

542
00:43:37,032 --> 00:43:43,245
vote, please. Dean. Wendy? Yes. Fred Eismont? Yes. Doug Thompson?

543
00:43:43,245 --> 00:43:46,085
Yes. Application is reserved. Thank you, Ms. Jenna. For your

544
00:43:46,085 --> 00:43:52,356
parents. Thank you. Thank you, Baya. Bye. Which one? The

545
00:43:52,356 --> 00:43:55,476
king. 47k. Okay, we have them ready. Okay.

546
00:44:03,298 --> 00:44:06,978
So we're going to move back to application a 2025

547
00:44:06,978 --> 00:44:10,098
73 47 King street and do we have Susan Watson

548
00:44:10,098 --> 00:44:15,384
on the line? Actually, I'm here in person. I was

549
00:44:15,384 --> 00:44:18,843
watching, and I was like, there you are. Very good.

550
00:44:18,843 --> 00:44:21,483
All right, so do you want to read that out

551
00:44:21,483 --> 00:44:24,702
again, or do we need to? I'm going to have

552
00:44:24,702 --> 00:44:26,782
the secretary try to read the application and again for

553
00:44:26,782 --> 00:44:36,592
us. Thank you. The application being considered for final a

554
00:44:36,592 --> 00:44:43,201
2025 70. For. 347 King Street, east summit by Daniel

555
00:44:43,201 --> 00:44:46,121
Lawson. The purpose and effect of our application is to

556
00:44:46,121 --> 00:44:50,121
permit an accessory bowling ancillary to a single detached dwelling.

557
00:44:50,121 --> 00:44:52,721
With the variances in column one below. And so the

558
00:44:52,721 --> 00:44:56,081
requirements in column two below for an accessory building ancillary

559
00:44:56,081 --> 00:44:58,721
to a single detached dwelling in a r one C

560
00:44:58,721 --> 00:45:02,289
residential zone. The zoning. Items being requested are related to

561
00:45:02,289 --> 00:45:05,809
maximum height of an accessory building, maximum lock coverage for

562
00:45:05,809 --> 00:45:09,569
accessory buildings. Maximum lock coverage for accessory buildings as a

563
00:45:09,569 --> 00:45:12,489
percentage of the lot area and maximum lot coverage of

564
00:45:12,489 --> 00:45:15,569
accessory buildings, as a percent of the main building staff

565
00:45:15,569 --> 00:45:18,329
have no objection to the approval of this application subject

566
00:45:18,329 --> 00:45:26,086
to a condition. Just again describe. Your name for the

567
00:45:26,086 --> 00:45:28,646
record, please, and just describe the application for the committee,

568
00:45:28,646 --> 00:45:32,686
please. So it's. Susan Lawson. I'm here on behalf of.

569
00:45:33,810 --> 00:45:39,256
The homeowner, Colleen Glenn. So an application was submitted. To

570
00:45:39,256 --> 00:45:44,171
construct a two story garage. And in dealing with this

571
00:45:44,171 --> 00:45:48,011
city, obviously we had to apply for two minor variances,

572
00:45:48,011 --> 00:45:52,487
one being obviously the lot coverage. It exceeds it a

573
00:45:52,487 --> 00:45:57,013
little bit. Along with the height as well. So this

574
00:45:57,013 --> 00:46:01,696
was originally. Scheduled last month and got put over to.

575
00:46:03,541 --> 00:46:07,061
This evening. So the reason of building is so that

576
00:46:07,061 --> 00:46:10,301
they can store their vehicles and have a storage area.

577
00:46:11,554 --> 00:46:14,481
Above their garage. They currently have a garage, and we're

578
00:46:14,481 --> 00:46:16,601
going to be tearing that down. So we're just making

579
00:46:16,601 --> 00:46:20,503
it a little bit bigger and a little taller. There

580
00:46:20,503 --> 00:46:23,663
was a committee. Any questions? To Miss Wasp? Just for

581
00:46:23,663 --> 00:46:27,023
you, chair, Ms. Watson. I know what's on the plans,

582
00:46:27,023 --> 00:46:31,944
but. You did stipulate that the grove won't be used

583
00:46:31,944 --> 00:46:37,706
for a residential. Dwelling or accessory residence. Okay, thank you.

584
00:46:37,706 --> 00:46:41,310
Originally it was set that way. And then the homer

585
00:46:41,310 --> 00:46:43,990
got a little nervous and said, with all the costs

586
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:47,590
and things associated with it. So we ended up taking

587
00:46:47,590 --> 00:46:51,030
that, revising it the plans again, and it will not

588
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:56,250
be ever used. As a dwelling. For another unit of

589
00:46:56,250 --> 00:47:02,510
any kind. Okay. Any other questions from the committee? Do

590
00:47:02,510 --> 00:47:05,070
we have anyone here in the delegation to speak on

591
00:47:05,070 --> 00:47:09,590
this? Application seeing none. We receive no public comments on

592
00:47:09,590 --> 00:47:12,710
this. The term no correspondence has been received. All right.

593
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:16,830
So you hear the application committee motion? Yes. For you,

594
00:47:16,830 --> 00:47:20,336
chair, I'd like to propose. That we accept. Application eight

595
00:47:20,336 --> 00:47:25,856
2025 73 47 King Street east. With one condition and

596
00:47:25,856 --> 00:47:29,336
one advisory comment. Do we have a seconder. All second.

597
00:47:31,387 --> 00:47:36,547
Motion to accept the application. With conditions. And any other

598
00:47:36,547 --> 00:47:39,227
questions from the comments from the committee? Seeing none. Okay,

599
00:47:39,227 --> 00:47:46,103
vote, please. Team Wendy. Yes. Fred Eiswan? Yes. Doug Thompson.

600
00:47:46,103 --> 00:47:49,383
Yes. Application is approved with the condition. Thank you for

601
00:47:49,383 --> 00:47:52,183
being here. Thank you. Thank you all. Have a good

602
00:47:52,183 --> 00:48:02,102
evening. We're going

603
00:48:02,102 --> 00:48:04,302
to move to item five on the agenda, which is

604
00:48:04,302 --> 00:48:08,902
item a, 2025. 74 830 or mom, drive, and I'll

605
00:48:08,902 --> 00:48:12,653
get the secretary treasurer to read out the application. The

606
00:48:12,653 --> 00:48:17,573
application being considered for file a 2025 74 for 830

607
00:48:17,573 --> 00:48:22,053
Orman drive. Submitted by Mark Carlo santana. The purpose and

608
00:48:22,053 --> 00:48:24,653
effect of the application is to permit a single detached

609
00:48:24,653 --> 00:48:27,653
dwelling with the variances in column one below instead of

610
00:48:27,653 --> 00:48:33,660
the requirements in column two below. As required by zoning

611
00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:37,580
bylaw 1694 for a single detached dwelling in Ar one

612
00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:42,340
e. C. 45 residential zone. The zoning items being requested

613
00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:45,260
are related to a minimum ruler depth and maximum lock.

614
00:48:45,260 --> 00:48:48,300
Coverage. Staff have no objection to the approval of this

615
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:53,158
application, subject to conditions. So do we have Mr. Santan

616
00:48:53,158 --> 00:48:58,846
on the line? Hello. Good evening everyone. Good evening to

617
00:48:58,846 --> 00:49:04,829
the committee of the Jackman. Great. Please just briefly describe

618
00:49:04,829 --> 00:49:09,723
the application for the committee, please. Again. You'll repeat that.

619
00:49:09,723 --> 00:49:18,898
Just provide a brief. Explanation of the application, please? All

620
00:49:18,898 --> 00:49:21,858
right? Yes. By the way, my name is Mark Savannah.

621
00:49:21,858 --> 00:49:29,070
Again. I'm representing the owner. For the application. We would

622
00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:33,464
like to have a variance. For glock coverage and rear

623
00:49:33,464 --> 00:49:40,213
yard setback. The project calls for. A small sunroom addition

624
00:49:40,213 --> 00:49:44,193
at the rear portion of the property. And due to

625
00:49:44,193 --> 00:49:52,885
the limitations. So there's a desired dimension. That the client

626
00:49:52,885 --> 00:49:59,289
wants. But unfortunately, that means that. The rear yard setback.

627
00:49:59,849 --> 00:50:03,209
And the lot coverage cannot be complied with. But I

628
00:50:03,209 --> 00:50:08,847
do believe that it is of minor. In nature. And.

629
00:50:10,163 --> 00:50:13,563
I would hope that the committee would be able to

630
00:50:13,563 --> 00:50:19,011
permit it. And I believe that it doesn't negatively affect.

631
00:50:20,403 --> 00:50:30,100
The overall fabric of the structure. Good. Thank you. Members

632
00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:34,966
of the committee. Any questions? For the. Is there any

633
00:50:34,966 --> 00:50:40,302
members of the delegation here to speak on this? I

634
00:50:40,302 --> 00:50:44,743
just have one comment. If you receive the staff report

635
00:50:44,743 --> 00:50:48,521
on this. It was just read out. Have you reviewed

636
00:50:48,521 --> 00:50:56,154
the staff report, Mr. Yes. With the conditions. You're aware

637
00:50:56,154 --> 00:51:01,355
of both the conditions and advisory comments. Yes, I'm aware

638
00:51:01,355 --> 00:51:06,130
of the conditions. With the maximum height and the maximum

639
00:51:06,130 --> 00:51:13,649
width. Yes, the maximum. Height? Yes. Okay. That's why you

640
00:51:13,649 --> 00:51:15,609
said you've reviewed them. You don't. Have to read them

641
00:51:15,609 --> 00:51:20,034
out verbatim. I'm fine with that. Okay. Committee. Any other

642
00:51:20,034 --> 00:51:25,740
questions? Okay, motion. Yes, Mr. Chair. I move that we

643
00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:34,119
accept report a 2025 74. 830 arm and drive. Subject

644
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:40,578
to the conditions. And advisory comments. Very good. Do we

645
00:51:40,578 --> 00:51:44,618
have seconder? I'll second that. We have a motion to

646
00:51:44,618 --> 00:51:48,138
adopt the application. With conditions, advisory comments, and we have

647
00:51:48,138 --> 00:51:50,818
a second or any other comments from the committee seeing

648
00:51:50,818 --> 00:51:56,498
none. Vote, please. Dean. Wendy? Yes. Fred Eismo? Yes. Doug

649
00:51:56,498 --> 00:52:01,044
Thompson? Yes. Application is approved with conditions. Thank you, Mr.

650
00:52:01,044 --> 00:52:07,210
Santana. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay, so we're

651
00:52:07,210 --> 00:52:09,330
going to move to the next item on the agenda,

652
00:52:09,330 --> 00:52:15,210
which is item a 2002 575989 Lockheed drive. And I'll

653
00:52:15,210 --> 00:52:20,331
have the secretary read out the application, please. The application

654
00:52:20,331 --> 00:52:26,328
being considered to file a 2025 75. For 989 Milwaukee

655
00:52:26,328 --> 00:52:31,808
Drive. Submitted by Bali Mohammed of Mekwazing. The purpose and

656
00:52:31,808 --> 00:52:34,448
effect of the application is to permit a single detached

657
00:52:34,448 --> 00:52:38,048
dwelling, which may include an accessory apartment with a minimum

658
00:52:38,048 --> 00:52:41,728
landscape open space of 46% in the front yard, whereas

659
00:52:41,728 --> 00:52:45,723
zoning bylaw 60 94 requires a minimum of 50%. Landscape

660
00:52:45,723 --> 00:52:48,083
open space in the front yard for a single touch.

661
00:52:48,083 --> 00:52:51,723
Dwelling in the r one e 32 residential zone staff

662
00:52:51,723 --> 00:52:55,298
have no objection to the approval of this application. So

663
00:52:55,298 --> 00:53:01,301
do we have Sayad shams on the line? Good evening,

664
00:53:01,301 --> 00:53:04,061
Mr. Chairman. This is Shamse online. I am going to

665
00:53:04,061 --> 00:53:07,261
authorize agents acting on behalf of the property owners. Fix

666
00:53:07,261 --> 00:53:11,821
repent Street, Mississauga Macwez Inc. Great. Thank you please go

667
00:53:11,821 --> 00:53:17,274
ahead and briefly describe the application for the committee? Thank

668
00:53:17,274 --> 00:53:19,834
you, Mr. Chairman. The application before the committee is where

669
00:53:19,834 --> 00:53:25,729
you're seeking a variance for. Open landscape area. That required

670
00:53:25,729 --> 00:53:28,129
minimum open landscape space in the front yard for a

671
00:53:28,129 --> 00:53:31,809
single detailed dwelling is 50% we are proposing an extension

672
00:53:31,809 --> 00:53:35,609
of the driveway to accommodate two parking spaces on the

673
00:53:35,609 --> 00:53:41,209
driveway, which would facilitate an accessory apartment in the basement

674
00:53:41,209 --> 00:53:44,843
due to the extension of the driveway. The landscape open

675
00:53:44,843 --> 00:53:50,444
space. In the front yard is reduced to 46%. There

676
00:53:50,444 --> 00:53:53,804
is only a 4% difference between the required and proposed

677
00:53:53,804 --> 00:53:58,892
open spaces. We believe that. The Greens need support tests

678
00:53:58,892 --> 00:54:01,652
of the Planning act and its minor in nature, and

679
00:54:01,652 --> 00:54:05,252
we request the community kindly concerns as an application for

680
00:54:05,252 --> 00:54:07,572
them and approved. Thank you so much. Any questions? I'll

681
00:54:07,572 --> 00:54:10,948
be glad to answer. Members of the committee. Any questions

682
00:54:10,948 --> 00:54:14,308
for the representative? Okay, see, none. Is there any members

683
00:54:14,308 --> 00:54:18,988
of the delegation here tonight to speak on this application,

684
00:54:18,988 --> 00:54:23,952
seeing none. We receive no public comments on this. The

685
00:54:23,952 --> 00:54:27,832
general correspondence has been received. Okay. All right. Hearing the

686
00:54:27,832 --> 00:54:35,357
application committee vote in his order. Yes, Mr. Chair. I

687
00:54:35,357 --> 00:54:40,317
like to propose that we accept report number a 2025.

688
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:50,433
75 989 Lockheed drive with the four advisory comments. Also

689
00:54:50,433 --> 00:54:55,021
to adopt the application with a secondary. All second, give

690
00:54:55,021 --> 00:54:57,541
a motion to adopt the application. And second, any other

691
00:54:57,541 --> 00:55:01,981
comments from the committee seeing none. Vote, please. Dean Lindsay?

692
00:55:01,981 --> 00:55:06,661
Yes. Fred? I spot yes. Doug Thompson? Yes. Application is

693
00:55:06,661 --> 00:55:13,787
approved. Give us your samps. Thank you. Okay, so we're

694
00:55:13,787 --> 00:55:16,027
going to move to item seven on the agenda, which

695
00:55:16,027 --> 00:55:25,903
is application a. 2002. 576248 Cosgrove drive. The secretary of

696
00:55:25,903 --> 00:55:30,985
treasurer to read out the application. The application being considered

697
00:55:30,985 --> 00:55:36,348
is for file eight, 2025 76. For 248 cost Grove

698
00:55:36,348 --> 00:55:40,548
Drive. Submitted by Valudin Mohammed of Macwares, Inc. And the

699
00:55:40,548 --> 00:55:43,028
purpose and effect of his application is to permit a

700
00:55:43,028 --> 00:55:46,428
single detached dwelling which may include an accessory. Apartment with

701
00:55:46,428 --> 00:55:49,188
a minimum landscape open space of 45% in the front

702
00:55:49,188 --> 00:55:52,628
yard, whereas zoning bylaw 60 94 requires a minimum of

703
00:55:52,628 --> 00:55:55,521
50% landscape open space in the front yard. For a

704
00:55:55,521 --> 00:55:59,001
single detached dwelling in the r 210 residential zone. Staff

705
00:55:59,001 --> 00:56:04,098
have no objection to the appeal. Robbers application. Mr. Shams,

706
00:56:04,098 --> 00:56:09,351
are you on the line? Yes, Mr. Chair. Before the

707
00:56:09,351 --> 00:56:13,311
committee again gets for open landscape areas reduction in the

708
00:56:13,311 --> 00:56:15,631
front yard. However, I would like to note that there

709
00:56:15,631 --> 00:56:19,311
is no production from what is existing through the builder

710
00:56:19,311 --> 00:56:23,631
that was built initially. The regulation comes in when it's

711
00:56:23,631 --> 00:56:29,720
an accessory to running to the. Best of my knowledge,

712
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:33,120
where we require 50% to the open space. So based

713
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,726
on that. We have only 45% of the factory, which

714
00:56:36,726 --> 00:56:40,806
is largely broken space, so detection of 5%. Is being

715
00:56:40,806 --> 00:56:44,917
requested in this instance. Again, I feel that this meets

716
00:56:44,917 --> 00:56:47,197
the forecast of the planning act, and there's minor in

717
00:56:47,197 --> 00:56:50,397
nature. I would request the committee to kindly give proof

718
00:56:50,397 --> 00:56:53,597
of this application and any questions I will. Gladly answer.

719
00:56:53,597 --> 00:56:58,913
Thank you. Thank you. Any questions? For the representative from

720
00:56:58,913 --> 00:57:02,151
the committee seeing none. Is there anybody in the gallery

721
00:57:02,151 --> 00:57:06,596
to speak on this application? Seeing none. Did receive any.

722
00:57:06,596 --> 00:57:10,220
We received no correspondence for this application. The return. No

723
00:57:10,220 --> 00:57:15,068
correspondence has been received. Hearing to the application committee vote

724
00:57:15,068 --> 00:57:20,395
in disorder. Yes, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move to

725
00:57:20,395 --> 00:57:29,316
accept report a 2002 576248. Cosco Drive. With notes to

726
00:57:29,316 --> 00:57:35,553
advisory comments. Also to accept the application. With the advisor

727
00:57:35,553 --> 00:57:39,049
comments. And do we have a secondary? I will second

728
00:57:39,049 --> 00:57:43,495
that motion. Okay. To adopt application along with the second

729
00:57:43,495 --> 00:57:46,775
or any other comments from the committee seeing none, vote,

730
00:57:46,775 --> 00:57:53,143
please. Dean Lindsay? Yes. Fred Eismart? Yes. Doug Thompson? Yes.

731
00:57:53,143 --> 00:57:57,103
Application was approved, Mr. Shams. Thank you very much. Have

732
00:57:57,103 --> 00:58:00,663
a good evening. Move to the next item, item eight

733
00:58:00,663 --> 00:58:04,063
on the agenda, which is a 2025 77, which is

734
00:58:04,063 --> 00:58:07,183
505 cavanish court. I'll get the secretary to read out

735
00:58:07,183 --> 00:58:17,174
the application. The application being considered is profile a

736
00:58:17,174 --> 00:58:23,204
2025 77. For 505 cabin dish. Court submitted by Lawrence

737
00:58:23,204 --> 00:58:28,284
Kenugio and Bernice Dei Titu, the purpose and effective is

738
00:58:28,284 --> 00:58:31,404
application is to permit a single detached dwelling, which may

739
00:58:31,404 --> 00:58:33,724
include an accessory apartment. With the variance of column one

740
00:58:33,724 --> 00:58:37,069
below. And serve the requirements on column two below as

741
00:58:37,069 --> 00:58:41,029
required by zoning ballast 1694 for single dwelling in a

742
00:58:41,029 --> 00:58:45,345
r 1D residential zone. There's only items being requested are

743
00:58:45,345 --> 00:58:48,745
related to minimum parking space width and minimum parking space.

744
00:58:48,745 --> 00:58:51,505
Length. Staff have no objection to the approval of his

745
00:58:51,505 --> 00:58:59,051
application. All right. Do we have Bernice Gatti, too? Good

746
00:58:59,051 --> 00:59:03,296
evening, chair. I'm looking down. Sorry, I got to start

747
00:59:03,296 --> 00:59:06,016
looking up. Good evening. Chair. You got Alan? Shahe. I'm

748
00:59:06,016 --> 00:59:09,536
here on their behalf. And. Good evening, committee. Good. Thank

749
00:59:09,536 --> 00:59:15,487
you. Go ahead. The proposal is. For self contained basement

750
00:59:15,487 --> 00:59:20,010
apartment. And we are requested, or required, I guess, to

751
00:59:20,010 --> 00:59:24,330
extend a driveway by about 0.6 meters. We had proposed

752
00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:28,467
to do it. On the east side of the driveway,

753
00:59:28,467 --> 00:59:33,747
but the city staff had contacted us or via email

754
00:59:33,747 --> 00:59:37,347
and proposed that we do completed on the opposite side,

755
00:59:37,347 --> 00:59:39,547
which is the west side of the driveway, which we

756
00:59:39,547 --> 00:59:43,135
are in agreement of. Members of the committee. Any questions

757
00:59:43,135 --> 00:59:51,137
for the applicant? So that change wouldn't be reflected on.

758
00:59:53,110 --> 00:59:58,578
This drawing or is this up to date, then? or

759
00:59:58,578 --> 01:00:01,418
that's a proper can i see which one you have

760
01:00:07,187 --> 01:00:11,247
To put this out. Due to trading issues with.

761
01:00:17,900 --> 01:00:26,865
Any other questions from the committee? no is there any

762
01:00:26,865 --> 01:00:28,745
members of the public here to speak of this application

763
01:00:28,429 --> 01:00:31,629
Seeing none. We received no public consultation on this. Did

764
01:00:31,629 --> 01:00:35,661
the chair. No public comments have been received. All right.

765
01:00:35,661 --> 01:00:41,622
During the application committee voted is in order? Yes. Chair.

766
01:00:41,622 --> 01:00:46,062
I'd like to propose we accept. Report number eight, 2025

767
01:00:46,062 --> 01:00:51,352
77 for 505 Cavendish. With the three advisory comments. To

768
01:00:51,352 --> 01:00:57,072
adopt the application. We have a seconder. Second. To adopt

769
01:00:57,072 --> 01:00:59,432
the application. We have a seconder. Any other comments from

770
01:00:59,432 --> 01:01:04,936
the committee? Seeing none vote please. Dean Lindy? Yes. Fred

771
01:01:04,936 --> 01:01:09,776
Eismont? Yes. Doug Thompson. Yes. Application is approved. Good. Thank

772
01:01:09,776 --> 01:01:12,016
you. For your appearance tonight. Thank you. Thank you, chair.

773
01:01:12,016 --> 01:01:15,980
Thank you, committee. Move to item ten on the agenda,

774
01:01:15,980 --> 01:01:25,266
which is? A 2025 79, which is 1135 Plymouth

775
01:01:25,266 --> 01:01:29,466
Drive, and I'll get the secretary to read out this

776
01:01:29,466 --> 01:01:33,781
application. The application being considered is for file a 2025

777
01:01:33,781 --> 01:01:39,861
79 for 1135 Plymouth Drive, submitted by Arya and Gopi.

778
01:01:39,861 --> 01:01:42,261
The purpose and effect of his application is to permit

779
01:01:42,261 --> 01:01:45,581
a single search dwelling which may include an accessory apartment.

780
01:01:45,581 --> 01:01:48,021
With the variances in column one below, it's just. The

781
01:01:48,021 --> 01:01:52,423
requirements of column two. Below, as required by zoning by

782
01:01:52,423 --> 01:01:55,183
law 1694 for a single status dwelling in the r

783
01:01:55,183 --> 01:01:58,623
one e 31 residential zone. The zoning item is being

784
01:01:58,623 --> 01:02:02,583
requested. I relate to minimum parking space length, minimum parking

785
01:02:02,583 --> 01:02:05,703
space length and landscape open space in the front yard.

786
01:02:05,703 --> 01:02:07,743
Staff have no objection to the approval of this application.

787
01:02:09,090 --> 01:02:17,498
We have Arvind Gopi on the line. Yes. Okay, go

788
01:02:17,498 --> 01:02:21,171
ahead. Just state your name for the record. And provide

789
01:02:21,171 --> 01:02:26,446
a brief. Description of the application, please? Good evening, committee.

790
01:02:26,446 --> 01:02:29,526
My name is Arwin Gopi. I'm an architect and I'm.

791
01:02:29,526 --> 01:02:35,911
Representing the honor for this application. So the honorary is

792
01:02:35,911 --> 01:02:40,259
doing. A legal basement, and we need an additional parking

793
01:02:40,259 --> 01:02:45,711
requirement. So we had to reduce. The landscape. Open space

794
01:02:45,711 --> 01:02:48,151
in the frontier. That's one of the regions we are

795
01:02:48,151 --> 01:02:52,631
asking for. And another one is the reduced parking space,

796
01:02:52,631 --> 01:02:56,471
which we need for the legal basement. So the width

797
01:02:56,471 --> 01:03:00,191
and length also need to be reduced because of these

798
01:03:00,191 --> 01:03:02,711
site conditions, as per people where he's. Done its site.

799
01:03:04,796 --> 01:03:07,916
Yeah, that's all about the application. It's very minor in

800
01:03:07,916 --> 01:03:12,877
nature. Members of the committee. Any questions to the representative?

801
01:03:17,636 --> 01:03:22,209
Seeing no questions. i don't have any questions Is there

802
01:03:22,209 --> 01:03:24,169
anybody here in the gallery want to speak of this

803
01:03:24,169 --> 01:03:30,103
application? Seeing none. We didn't receive any public consultation. The

804
01:03:30,103 --> 01:03:35,023
internal correspondence has been respondents okay hearing the application. Committee.

805
01:03:36,709 --> 01:03:44,182
Mr. Chair, I'd like. To. Move that we accept. Report

806
01:03:44,182 --> 01:03:50,761
a 2025 79. 1135 Plymouth Drive. With notes to the

807
01:03:50,761 --> 01:03:56,223
advisory for advisory comments. We have a motion to adopt

808
01:03:56,223 --> 01:03:59,823
the application with advisory comments. And is there a seconder?

809
01:03:59,823 --> 01:04:02,943
I will second that we have a second or any

810
01:04:02,943 --> 01:04:06,663
other comments from the committee seeing none. Vote, please. Dean

811
01:04:06,663 --> 01:04:11,783
Lindsay? Yes. Fred Eismar? Yes. Doug Thompson? Yes. Application is

812
01:04:11,783 --> 01:04:15,873
approved. Thank you, Mr. Gopi. Thank you so much. Good

813
01:04:15,873 --> 01:04:19,830
evening. Okay, so we'll move to item eleven on the

814
01:04:19,830 --> 01:04:25,590
agenda, which is item a, 2025. 80. 317 Thornton Road

815
01:04:25,590 --> 01:04:30,121
north. I'll get the secretary to read out the application.

816
01:04:31,699 --> 01:04:35,499
The application. Bring concealers for file a 2025 80 for

817
01:04:35,499 --> 01:04:40,219
317 thor ten road north. Submitted by bentbolt. The purpose

818
01:04:40,219 --> 01:04:42,659
and effect of this application is to permit a single

819
01:04:42,659 --> 01:04:45,699
statch drawing. Which may include an accessory apartment with the

820
01:04:45,699 --> 01:04:52,469
range who's in column one below external. Requirements in column

821
01:04:52,469 --> 01:04:55,909
two below, as required by zoning bylaw 1694 for a

822
01:04:55,909 --> 01:05:00,870
single detached dwelling. Any r one c residential zone. There's

823
01:05:00,870 --> 01:05:03,150
any items being requested are related to a minimum landscape

824
01:05:03,150 --> 01:05:06,390
open space in the front. Yard parking space location and

825
01:05:06,390 --> 01:05:09,430
minimum parking space width. Staff have no objection to the

826
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:12,796
approval of this application. Just please state your name for

827
01:05:12,796 --> 01:05:18,735
the record, please. Provide a brief description of your application.

828
01:05:20,097 --> 01:05:24,922
Good evening. My name is Brent Bowl. And the purpose

829
01:05:24,922 --> 01:05:30,246
of. This application is that? My parents, who is of

830
01:05:30,246 --> 01:05:32,766
age now, is getting older. They live with me and

831
01:05:32,766 --> 01:05:35,206
they will be living with me for a long time,

832
01:05:35,206 --> 01:05:39,090
until. Probably when they're no more. So it's getting hard

833
01:05:39,090 --> 01:05:41,450
for them to basically get around the house, and the

834
01:05:41,450 --> 01:05:45,810
hot mushrooms are upstairs and downstairs taking stairs, so I'm

835
01:05:45,810 --> 01:05:50,388
converting. The garage into. A living space for them to

836
01:05:50,388 --> 01:05:57,761
have one area where. They could. Have. Their existing garage

837
01:05:57,761 --> 01:06:04,305
into an accessory apartment, basically. So. It requires minor variants

838
01:06:04,305 --> 01:06:09,025
for the parking spot, and I believe that that is

839
01:06:09,025 --> 01:06:13,385
something that we could do minor variants, and that is

840
01:06:13,385 --> 01:06:18,179
the purpose of. This application. Thank you. Members of the

841
01:06:18,179 --> 01:06:22,099
committee, any questions to the applicant? Yeah, just through you,

842
01:06:22,099 --> 01:06:29,791
chair for Mr. Bowl. I notice there's also. A proposed

843
01:06:29,791 --> 01:06:34,146
sunroom, but that's not part of. This motion. It's just

844
01:06:34,146 --> 01:06:41,421
to convert the garage into living quarters. I believe. That

845
01:06:41,421 --> 01:06:46,763
was also part of that. But right now. Our main

846
01:06:46,763 --> 01:06:53,245
focus is. For the ancillary, just the variance. For the

847
01:06:53,245 --> 01:06:57,710
parking space. The reason I'm asking is just I noticed

848
01:06:57,710 --> 01:07:06,645
that. On the diagram. It is a proposed sunroom for

849
01:07:06,645 --> 01:07:11,680
owners use. Obviously, maybe not your parent, so I was

850
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:16,273
just wondering if that was part of. The proposal at

851
01:07:16,273 --> 01:07:25,530
this point, yes. It is. Thank you. Staff. Is there

852
01:07:25,530 --> 01:07:27,770
any clarification? Is there anything that we need clarified on

853
01:07:27,770 --> 01:07:32,281
that or you got your answer. You're fine, okay? Any

854
01:07:32,281 --> 01:07:35,201
other comments from the committee saying? None. Okay. And what

855
01:07:35,201 --> 01:07:38,001
I did ask is anybody in the delegation to speak

856
01:07:38,001 --> 01:07:44,239
on the application. And we received no public consultation of

857
01:07:44,239 --> 01:07:48,399
this one. The chairman public correspondence has been received. Okay

858
01:07:48,399 --> 01:07:54,007
hearing. The applicants motion. Is in order. Yes, chair. I

859
01:07:54,007 --> 01:08:00,732
propose that we accept application a 2025 80. At 317

860
01:08:00,732 --> 01:08:05,532
Thorton Road north with the one advisory comment, and I'll

861
01:08:05,532 --> 01:08:10,013
second that application. Any other comments from the committee? Seeing?

862
01:08:10,013 --> 01:08:18,636
None. Okay, a vote, please. Dean lindsay. Yes. Doug Thompson.

863
01:08:18,636 --> 01:08:22,036
Yes. Application is approved. Thank you for your appearance. Thank

864
01:08:22,036 --> 01:08:26,950
you. To move to item twelve on the agenda, which

865
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:36,354
is a 2025 81,035 grand. Lee court. So have the

866
01:08:36,354 --> 01:08:40,429
treasurer read this application. The application. Bring Cassilla to file

867
01:08:40,429 --> 01:08:46,189
a 2025 81 for 1035 Grandley Court submitted by Iman

868
01:08:46,189 --> 01:08:49,349
Prit Singh Basur. The purpose and effect of his application

869
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:52,149
is to permit a single detached dwelling, which may include

870
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:55,509
an accessory apartment with advances in column one below and.

871
01:08:59,148 --> 01:09:01,228
Set the requirement to column two below, as required by

872
01:09:01,228 --> 01:09:04,668
zoning bylaw 1694 for a single detached dwelling in ar

873
01:09:04,668 --> 01:09:08,308
one e residential zone. The zoning order has been requested

874
01:09:08,308 --> 01:09:11,748
only to a minimum. Parking space width, minimum parking space

875
01:09:11,748 --> 01:09:14,828
length and minimum landscape open space in the front yard.

876
01:09:14,828 --> 01:09:16,788
Staff have no objection to the approval of this application.

877
01:09:18,476 --> 01:09:20,996
Well, just turn on your mic and please state your

878
01:09:20,996 --> 01:09:25,996
name for the record, please. Sure. Good evening. Committee members,

879
01:09:25,996 --> 01:09:29,396
staff and chair. So, my name is Mandrit Singh and

880
01:09:29,396 --> 01:09:34,596
I'm the. Owner of the 100:35 grandly coat. Our purpose

881
01:09:34,596 --> 01:09:39,564
of this application is to add, add. Additional single dwelling

882
01:09:39,564 --> 01:09:43,857
unit in the basement. With a minor variance for minimum

883
01:09:43,857 --> 01:09:49,656
parking space width as 2.6 and as per zoning. It's

884
01:09:49,656 --> 01:09:55,056
2.75 meters and minimum parking space length as 5.6 meters,

885
01:09:55,056 --> 01:10:01,071
which is 5.75 as per zoning. And minimum landscape open

886
01:10:01,071 --> 01:10:06,711
space for the frontard, which is 42% and as per

887
01:10:06,711 --> 01:10:11,501
zoning it's 50%, so. That's our points for the minor

888
01:10:11,501 --> 01:10:19,703
variants. Good. Thank you. Any questions? The applicant. Do we

889
01:10:19,703 --> 01:10:21,983
have any. Is there any delegation to speak on this

890
01:10:21,983 --> 01:10:28,575
application? Receive no public consultation on this. The general correspondent

891
01:10:28,575 --> 01:10:33,055
has been received correspondence. Okay, so motion is an order,

892
01:10:33,055 --> 01:10:38,055
Mr. Chair. I move that we accept report a 2025

893
01:10:38,055 --> 01:10:45,857
81 at 1035 Grandley. Court, subject to. Note of the

894
01:10:45,857 --> 01:10:49,719
advisor comment. Motion to adopt. Do I have a seconder?

895
01:10:49,719 --> 01:10:52,279
I will second that motion. Okay, we have a motion

896
01:10:52,279 --> 01:10:55,879
to adopt and seconded. Any other comments from the committee?

897
01:10:55,879 --> 01:11:02,646
Seeing none. Motion. Vote, please. Dean Lindsay? Yes. Fred Eismat.

898
01:11:02,646 --> 01:11:06,526
Yes. Doug Thompson. Yes. Application was approved. Thank you for

899
01:11:06,526 --> 01:11:10,716
your appearance. Thank you. We're going to move to item

900
01:11:10,716 --> 01:11:15,116
13 on the agenda, which is a 2025 82. 419

901
01:11:15,116 --> 01:11:23,420
King West. I don't get the application. The secretary treasurer

902
01:11:23,420 --> 01:11:27,297
read out the application, please. The application being considered for

903
01:11:27,297 --> 01:11:32,763
file a 2025 80. King Street west. Submitted by the

904
01:11:32,763 --> 01:11:36,123
big Leery Group. The purpose and affectiva's application is to

905
01:11:36,123 --> 01:11:39,123
permit a type two partner to be located within 120

906
01:11:39,123 --> 01:11:42,523
meters of another tattoo parlor where a zoning Balla 60

907
01:11:42,523 --> 01:11:46,163
94 requires tattoo mullers to be located no closer than

908
01:11:46,163 --> 01:11:49,523
150 meters. To another law occupied by the same use.

909
01:11:50,903 --> 01:11:53,983
In a PCCA one plant commercial center zone. An additional

910
01:11:53,983 --> 01:11:56,223
purpose in the fact that was application is to promote

911
01:11:56,223 --> 01:11:59,743
a tattoo partner to be located within 120 meters of

912
01:11:59,743 --> 01:12:04,223
another tattoo parlor, whereas owning bylaw 60 94 as amended

913
01:12:04,223 --> 01:12:09,701
by bylaw 82. 2025 requires tattoo powers to be located

914
01:12:09,701 --> 01:12:12,901
lower, closer than 800 meters to another law occupied by

915
01:12:12,901 --> 01:12:16,701
the same use and a PCCA one plant commercial central

916
01:12:16,701 --> 01:12:19,581
zone staff have no objection to the approval of this

917
01:12:19,581 --> 01:12:27,412
application. Do we have Laura on the line? Yes, I'm

918
01:12:27,412 --> 01:12:29,812
here. Okay, just state your name for the record, please,

919
01:12:29,812 --> 01:12:36,067
and provide. A brief description of the application, please. Thank

920
01:12:36,067 --> 01:12:39,547
you, Mr. Chair. My name is Laura Lavelle Kentosopoulos and

921
01:12:39,547 --> 01:12:43,147
I'm. The senior planner at the Bigli area group representing

922
01:12:43,147 --> 01:12:50,022
the owners, 4119 King Street West. Yashawa center more blamely.

923
01:12:50,022 --> 01:12:51,462
I'll try to be quick because I know we're at

924
01:12:51,462 --> 01:12:54,622
the end of the night here. So we have committed

925
01:12:54,622 --> 01:12:58,302
this minor variant, as mentioned. To permit a tattoo parlor

926
01:12:58,302 --> 01:13:02,142
located within a unit within the OSha shopping center. We

927
01:13:02,142 --> 01:13:07,382
are requesting this site specific reduction. From 150 meters to

928
01:13:07,382 --> 01:13:11,132
120 meters. I would also like to note that the

929
01:13:11,132 --> 01:13:13,492
actual location of the unit is more to the south.

930
01:13:13,492 --> 01:13:17,131
Of the Oshawa center near Death street. Well over up

931
01:13:17,131 --> 01:13:20,931
to 650 meters away from the existing tattoo hardware used

932
01:13:20,931 --> 01:13:25,731
today. We reviewed the applicable planning policy and with both

933
01:13:25,731 --> 01:13:29,171
variants is consistent with the provincial planning statement and satisfied

934
01:13:29,171 --> 01:13:33,371
foretest of minor variance planning on and I would comment

935
01:13:33,371 --> 01:13:36,691
that in relation to the intent of this zoning, bylaw.

936
01:13:37,070 --> 01:13:40,906
We understand from. That report that the intent of this

937
01:13:40,906 --> 01:13:44,546
separation between tattooing Carlo uses is to limit the concentration

938
01:13:44,546 --> 01:13:48,386
of uses which impacts the deathstream of the environment along

939
01:13:48,386 --> 01:13:52,549
main shopping and pedestrian streets. Since this location is within

940
01:13:52,549 --> 01:13:55,029
a shopping center, will not have any passed on the

941
01:13:55,029 --> 01:13:57,789
streamscape and we find it consistent with the intent of

942
01:13:57,789 --> 01:14:01,629
the bylaw. Additionally, we note Boston center is much larger

943
01:14:01,629 --> 01:14:05,509
than other laws. Over 800 meters deep, 400 meters wide,

944
01:14:05,509 --> 01:14:09,309
surrounded by parking. So there's ample distance from other similar.

945
01:14:10,722 --> 01:14:12,042
Uses. Thank you to the committee. Let me know if

946
01:14:12,042 --> 01:14:15,642
you have any questions on the proposal. Thank you for

947
01:14:15,642 --> 01:14:19,242
your detailed application. Any members of the committee with a

948
01:14:19,242 --> 01:14:23,574
question? I just have a question. To stop. I think

949
01:14:23,574 --> 01:14:25,574
you've explained it, but I want to put this question

950
01:14:25,574 --> 01:14:29,988
to staff, so on. The outset, reading the application. It's

951
01:14:29,988 --> 01:14:37,113
123 meters. Is what is being requested. The initial bylaw

952
01:14:37,113 --> 01:14:40,393
is 150 meters. And then there was a revision to

953
01:14:40,393 --> 01:14:43,753
the bylaw of 800 meters. How do we determine the

954
01:14:43,753 --> 01:14:49,304
length? Is there a length on from this application? Maybe

955
01:14:49,304 --> 01:14:52,966
you can just explain that to me. Is it to

956
01:14:52,966 --> 01:14:56,286
the quarter of the shopping center or does it go

957
01:14:56,286 --> 01:15:00,006
to the actual. Location of the new proposed tattoo shop.

958
01:15:02,472 --> 01:15:05,072
Do the chair. So the way that the distance is

959
01:15:05,072 --> 01:15:08,512
measured, it's from the shortest distance. Between the two closest

960
01:15:08,512 --> 01:15:12,201
points on the property lines. Of the two walls occupied

961
01:15:12,201 --> 01:15:14,041
by the same use, which in this case is a

962
01:15:14,041 --> 01:15:18,801
tattoo polar. So the requested variance of 120 meters. That's

963
01:15:18,801 --> 01:15:22,401
the shortest distance between the two property lines of those

964
01:15:22,401 --> 01:15:26,281
same uses. So this doesn't take into account the actual

965
01:15:26,281 --> 01:15:29,201
location of the proposed tattoo. Parlor, which would be at

966
01:15:29,201 --> 01:15:32,258
the south side of Oshua Center. So if you were

967
01:15:32,258 --> 01:15:35,258
to measure it from the actual unit, from unit to

968
01:15:35,258 --> 01:15:39,690
unit, it would be. Much greater than. Moreover, 600 meters

969
01:15:39,690 --> 01:15:44,284
in between. So the committee has done any. There's no

970
01:15:44,284 --> 01:15:47,746
violation of any city bylaw. To allow this. It looks

971
01:15:47,746 --> 01:15:50,786
like it's outside of what those bylaws are originally. Intended

972
01:15:50,786 --> 01:15:54,474
for. Okay, good. Thank you for that answer. Do you

973
01:15:54,474 --> 01:15:56,474
have anything else that you wanted, Laurie? You just heard

974
01:15:56,474 --> 01:16:00,436
the question. Do you have any? Comments to that. No,

975
01:16:00,436 --> 01:16:03,196
I think that was well answered. Thank you. Great. Thank

976
01:16:03,196 --> 01:16:11,863
you. Any delegation? No delegation. We received. Correspondence on this.

977
01:16:13,561 --> 01:16:19,559
One was received. Okay. Hearing. The application committee motion is

978
01:16:19,559 --> 01:16:23,159
in order. Yes, Mr. Chair. I'd like to pose that.

979
01:16:23,159 --> 01:16:28,879
We accept report number eight. 2025 82 419 King Street,

980
01:16:28,879 --> 01:16:33,968
West Oshwa Center. And there's no conditions or advisory comments.

981
01:16:36,594 --> 01:16:42,889
I'll second that. The motion to adopt the application. And

982
01:16:42,889 --> 01:16:46,089
seconded. Any other comments from the committee? Seeing none, vote,

983
01:16:46,089 --> 01:16:52,765
please. D Lindsay? Yes. Fred Eisemot? Yes. Doug Thompson? Yes.

984
01:16:52,765 --> 01:16:57,873
Application is approved. Thank you for your parents. Thank you.

985
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,840
So we're going to go back now on the agenda,

986
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:11,230
back to item number. One, I think. Item number one,

987
01:17:11,230 --> 01:17:15,430
we're going to go back to item a, 2025 57,

988
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:20,785
which is 643 Fleetwood Drive. Oh, I'm sorry. A 2025?

989
01:17:23,035 --> 01:17:30,091
64 8180. Get the secretary to read the application. The

990
01:17:30,091 --> 01:17:34,491
application being considered is for file 820 25 64 for

991
01:17:34,491 --> 01:17:39,131
185 Orchard View Boulevard, summoned by Greg McCullough the purpose

992
01:17:39,131 --> 01:17:41,771
and effect of this application is to permit an accessory

993
01:17:41,771 --> 01:17:44,891
building which may include an accessory apartment auxiliary to a

994
01:17:44,891 --> 01:17:48,051
single touch dwelling with a maximum height of 6 meters,

995
01:17:48,051 --> 01:17:50,674
whereas zoning by line of 1694. Permits a maximum height

996
01:17:50,674 --> 01:17:53,354
of less the maximum height of the lesser of four

997
01:17:53,354 --> 01:17:55,234
and a half meters. Or the actual height of the

998
01:17:55,234 --> 01:17:58,314
main building on a lot for an accessory building, ancillary

999
01:17:58,314 --> 01:18:00,434
to a single detached drilling and the r one a

1000
01:18:00,434 --> 01:18:05,181
residential zone. Staff requests that this application be denied. Greg

1001
01:18:05,181 --> 01:18:10,766
mccullough on the line. Yes, you do. Okay, go ahead.

1002
01:18:10,766 --> 01:18:14,766
Mr. McCullough, just briefly describe the application for the committee.

1003
01:18:14,766 --> 01:18:18,870
Please. The purpose of the application is a caregiver suite

1004
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:22,910
for my elderly stepmother. We discussed it. In previous meeting.

1005
01:18:25,852 --> 01:18:30,612
The planning department has an issue with the required height,

1006
01:18:30,612 --> 01:18:33,252
so we revise the application I brought. It back in

1007
01:18:33,252 --> 01:18:38,130
under the height of the existing building. We also were

1008
01:18:38,130 --> 01:18:43,003
provided afterwards with the complaint. From the objection, from the

1009
01:18:43,003 --> 01:18:48,396
neighbor, which we were able to review. And in discussions

1010
01:18:48,396 --> 01:18:53,732
with the planning department. They requested that we come back

1011
01:18:53,732 --> 01:18:57,993
with a wider or longer footprint. To reduce the height.

1012
01:18:59,867 --> 01:19:01,747
Then that they would be more sympathetic to that than

1013
01:19:01,747 --> 01:19:10,256
the height. We've investigated those options. And. What we found

1014
01:19:10,256 --> 01:19:15,415
is. In order to accommodate. A wider or longer building,

1015
01:19:15,415 --> 01:19:20,444
we would not be able to utilize. A substantial portion

1016
01:19:20,444 --> 01:19:23,684
of the existing building, so we're being asked to cover

1017
01:19:23,684 --> 01:19:28,880
the footings. They would have even uniformed the new building.

1018
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,400
We would have to reinforce roofs. We do have to

1019
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,751
elevate the building anyway. Because the required height on the

1020
01:19:34,751 --> 01:19:39,316
first floor. So we would end up having to add

1021
01:19:39,316 --> 01:19:43,957
substantial bracing to the roof. To accommodate the lateral loads

1022
01:19:43,957 --> 01:19:49,870
that a wider edition would put on the building. And

1023
01:19:49,870 --> 01:19:55,322
we don't feel that. warranted When what seems to be

1024
01:19:55,322 --> 01:20:00,122
happening is a very strict and literal interpretation of not

1025
01:20:00,122 --> 01:20:05,898
being. Substantially bigger. As an accessory building, even though that

1026
01:20:05,898 --> 01:20:10,018
component was written previous to these being accessory dwellings doesn't.

1027
01:20:10,018 --> 01:20:13,458
Seem to be reflective of the new purpose of intensification.

1028
01:20:14,729 --> 01:20:17,529
And secondary dwellings on the same property when these are

1029
01:20:17,529 --> 01:20:21,649
deemed accessory buildings or rules pertaining to that work exactly

1030
01:20:21,649 --> 01:20:25,049
that garages and other spaces that work ancillary to the

1031
01:20:25,049 --> 01:20:28,289
main building, where these are now sympathetic with the main

1032
01:20:28,289 --> 01:20:35,687
building and growing places. When we review the neighbor's objections,

1033
01:20:35,687 --> 01:20:40,082
the bulk of the objections are to the actual. Placement

1034
01:20:40,082 --> 01:20:46,738
of. A secondary space, regardless of height or wind or

1035
01:20:46,738 --> 01:20:49,498
anything they're concerned seems to be in the city of

1036
01:20:49,498 --> 01:20:53,378
Oshwa is not dealing with rental units which have helped

1037
01:20:53,378 --> 01:20:57,483
to do with this. Application. They're one concern about the

1038
01:20:57,483 --> 01:21:01,807
height. Seems to be a misinterpretation of the plan because

1039
01:21:01,807 --> 01:21:04,327
they believe that this is an addition that's going to

1040
01:21:04,327 --> 01:21:08,356
take up the substantial part of the backyard. It's actually

1041
01:21:08,356 --> 01:21:12,276
going to be just a small component. The privacy won't

1042
01:21:12,276 --> 01:21:15,636
be impacted. We don't have windows above their fence as

1043
01:21:15,636 --> 01:21:19,195
part of our application. So we feel that it addresses

1044
01:21:19,195 --> 01:21:23,640
the neighbor's concerns as best as we can. We be

1045
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,645
able to utilize the built aspects of the property? To

1046
01:21:27,645 --> 01:21:33,178
the maximum elevation is the right answer. And if we

1047
01:21:33,178 --> 01:21:36,298
were to mask the larger building with a bigger footprint,

1048
01:21:36,298 --> 01:21:40,087
we encounter setback issues. On all side. And we'll have

1049
01:21:40,087 --> 01:21:42,967
to come right back again. And it also interrupts our

1050
01:21:42,967 --> 01:21:45,407
proposed parking. Space. So that would have to be adjustment

1051
01:21:45,407 --> 01:21:47,987
as well. It's a narrow lot. There isn't a lot

1052
01:21:47,987 --> 01:21:53,038
of room to widen the structure. The minimal impact appears

1053
01:21:53,038 --> 01:21:55,918
to be to go straight up. And the only objection

1054
01:21:55,918 --> 01:22:01,852
that's seemingly relevant. Is one that isn't taking into account

1055
01:22:01,852 --> 01:22:06,916
that it's not true ancillary. Building. As for 1994 by

1056
01:22:06,916 --> 01:22:11,305
lock, but. It is more under the new or revised

1057
01:22:11,305 --> 01:22:18,771
interpretations of what is allowed on residential properties. Mr. Mccullough.

1058
01:22:22,872 --> 01:22:24,912
It seems to be. And again, you've read the report

1059
01:22:24,912 --> 01:22:27,712
and it came back, it seems. To be the height

1060
01:22:27,712 --> 01:22:30,432
of the building, but it's also the setback. Now, with

1061
01:22:30,432 --> 01:22:36,843
respect. To the complaint from the neighbors. Again. You're aware

1062
01:22:36,843 --> 01:22:43,175
that this committee. Has allowed these type of structures. As

1063
01:22:43,175 --> 01:22:49,399
provided they meet. The bylaw, but. Regardless of.

1064
01:22:53,490 --> 01:22:57,530
What the members or the residents say, or neighbors. If

1065
01:22:57,530 --> 01:23:03,682
it meets the bylaw, then. It meets the intent and

1066
01:23:03,682 --> 01:23:07,322
purpose of the official plan and the zoning bylaws. Right.

1067
01:23:07,322 --> 01:23:14,043
So. Again. It meets that needs, even though the neighbors

1068
01:23:14,043 --> 01:23:17,740
are concerned about it. And so we have. Approved applications.

1069
01:23:19,513 --> 01:23:21,833
That meet that bylaw. In this case here, the challenge

1070
01:23:21,833 --> 01:23:26,593
is that you're outside of that height restriction and setback.

1071
01:23:27,844 --> 01:23:36,468
So. There's two issues with that. Because it's an existing

1072
01:23:36,468 --> 01:23:41,767
building. We are a legal, nonconforming building. So our setbacks

1073
01:23:41,767 --> 01:23:43,927
are legal because that's where the building is. The straight

1074
01:23:43,927 --> 01:23:48,727
elevation does not change where setbacks occur. What they're proposing

1075
01:23:48,727 --> 01:23:50,767
is that we do encroach. On the setbacks, and then

1076
01:23:50,767 --> 01:23:53,527
we have to come back for a completely separate application.

1077
01:23:54,885 --> 01:23:57,485
With an elevation component because we have to lift it

1078
01:23:57,485 --> 01:24:00,885
anyway beyond what the 4.5 is. To accommodate the first

1079
01:24:00,885 --> 01:24:04,125
floor or we have to tear the roof off. And

1080
01:24:04,125 --> 01:24:08,934
we also have. To. Encroach. Because we're adding to it.

1081
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:13,470
Where now those legal, non performing status and laws. And

1082
01:24:13,470 --> 01:24:17,110
we now encroach on three. Sides of the property instead

1083
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:19,750
of what we have now, which is sort of existing

1084
01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:25,494
encroachment and again, we have to redo the entire. As

1085
01:24:25,494 --> 01:24:30,362
built structure that's there to conform to something which. We

1086
01:24:30,362 --> 01:24:33,762
are conforming to the bylaw and we are not higher

1087
01:24:33,762 --> 01:24:38,921
than the existing building. But. The interpretation is it can't

1088
01:24:38,921 --> 01:24:43,489
be more significant. It's a sticking point. Which is a

1089
01:24:43,489 --> 01:24:48,457
value judgment, not. A tangible thing that we can achieve,

1090
01:24:48,457 --> 01:24:53,162
so we're creating more step back issues. And more opportunity

1091
01:24:53,162 --> 01:24:59,601
for issues. Then we're complying with the bylaw, so. We

1092
01:24:59,601 --> 01:25:01,961
provide the application and process height of the building down

1093
01:25:01,961 --> 01:25:04,801
to compliance with the bylaw. So that we can utilize

1094
01:25:04,801 --> 01:25:08,721
what we have and utilize the ad built and maintain

1095
01:25:08,721 --> 01:25:14,519
sort of the identity of the neighborhood better. Than if

1096
01:25:14,519 --> 01:25:16,639
we amass a large, wide structure in the back, which

1097
01:25:16,639 --> 01:25:22,006
then means that we're. Back here again. With multiple encroachments

1098
01:25:22,006 --> 01:25:29,584
and a height issue. So for one pejorative. Sentence. We

1099
01:25:29,584 --> 01:25:32,904
are in compliance, and we're going to become not in

1100
01:25:32,904 --> 01:25:37,792
compliance with our application. On three sides and a high

1101
01:25:37,792 --> 01:25:45,545
dish. Plus the additional cost of demolition removal. Which, for

1102
01:25:45,545 --> 01:25:50,558
the sake of. An in law suite. Or caregiver suite.

1103
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:57,879
Seems to be. Financially punitive over the interpretation of a

1104
01:25:57,879 --> 01:26:00,839
bylaw that was not intended to deal with this. Situation.

1105
01:26:09,446 --> 01:26:11,166
You've made a couple of comments. I'm going to ask

1106
01:26:11,166 --> 01:26:13,886
the staff to just. To provide some context to this.

1107
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,920
In terms of the actual setbacks themselves, the proposed setbacks

1108
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,120
from the rear lot lines and the interior lot lines

1109
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,600
do comply with the zoning bylaw, however, so we do

1110
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,480
have the maximum height restriction of four and a half

1111
01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:33,744
meters based on. Those setbacks. So, for example. The idea

1112
01:26:33,744 --> 01:26:36,704
is that perhaps we could accept a taller building as

1113
01:26:36,704 --> 01:26:40,064
the setbacks get greater from the backyard. Right. So, based

1114
01:26:40,064 --> 01:26:44,136
on its present location, Snap don't support the proposed height

1115
01:26:44,136 --> 01:26:46,416
of 6 meters. That is too close to it's. Too

1116
01:26:46,416 --> 01:26:49,296
tall compared to the setbacks to the rear lot line

1117
01:26:49,296 --> 01:26:53,056
and interior lot lines, so. Our main concern is size.

1118
01:26:53,056 --> 01:26:56,671
Based on that location. Mr. McCullough, did you hear that?

1119
01:26:59,391 --> 01:27:03,479
Yes, I did. And again. The unfortunate aspect of the

1120
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,639
ad built. Certain nature of the lot does not allow

1121
01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:11,445
any moving in. Any direction without. Cumbering somebody else, and

1122
01:27:11,445 --> 01:27:15,831
with the neighboring properties, all be two story plus. It

1123
01:27:15,831 --> 01:27:18,711
doesn't change the scope of the neighborhood. They all look

1124
01:27:18,711 --> 01:27:24,605
down into my stepmother's. Backyard. This area has allowed. And

1125
01:27:24,605 --> 01:27:27,696
again. We're trying to do this the proper way. We're

1126
01:27:27,696 --> 01:27:31,128
trying to do everything right. If we jack it up

1127
01:27:31,128 --> 01:27:33,288
and put a hallway between, it's an addition and then

1128
01:27:33,288 --> 01:27:35,568
all of this goes away and it just looks worse.

1129
01:27:39,145 --> 01:27:42,946
So. We're trying to utilize this as a standalone structure.

1130
01:27:42,946 --> 01:27:45,186
We don't want it to look and appear as though

1131
01:27:45,186 --> 01:27:47,946
it's anything but what it is, which is an ancillary.

1132
01:27:47,946 --> 01:27:51,264
Building. But in terms of parking, in terms of backyard,

1133
01:27:51,264 --> 01:27:55,504
there really isn't space on this lot. To accommodate everything

1134
01:27:55,504 --> 01:28:01,940
that they want. So. It's such a massive change for

1135
01:28:01,940 --> 01:28:07,068
one again, in compliance less than the height of. The

1136
01:28:07,068 --> 01:28:09,228
existing building, which is what the bylaw states. There are

1137
01:28:09,228 --> 01:28:14,499
other laws. The 4.5 also does come in, but. The

1138
01:28:14,499 --> 01:28:16,699
setbacks are part of this application, but they will be

1139
01:28:16,699 --> 01:28:23,610
on the next one. so in order to keep that

1140
01:28:23,610 --> 01:28:25,970
pitch roof on that building we're still going to be

1141
01:28:25,970 --> 01:28:27,883
over the 4.5 even if We widen, do the rest.

1142
01:28:27,883 --> 01:28:32,377
So the committee did. So the committee did review the

1143
01:28:32,377 --> 01:28:37,627
plans that were provided and the application. In detail. You're

1144
01:28:37,627 --> 01:28:40,267
not able to move that structure back in order to

1145
01:28:40,267 --> 01:28:44,366
comply. Or forward. We would have to move it towards

1146
01:28:44,366 --> 01:28:47,766
a street, and then we can't utilize. Any of the.

1147
01:28:47,766 --> 01:28:50,606
We have to demo the foundation, the driveway, and all

1148
01:28:50,606 --> 01:28:55,467
of the Asville assets. So it require. It was never

1149
01:28:55,467 --> 01:29:00,269
brought up. What that acceptable setback would be. So I

1150
01:29:00,269 --> 01:29:04,122
don't know the exact number, but. There's under 5 meters

1151
01:29:04,122 --> 01:29:09,706
between the house. And the structure. And for firecoat, we

1152
01:29:09,706 --> 01:29:12,786
would be running into some issues with being that close.

1153
01:29:12,786 --> 01:29:20,001
To. An existing building, so. It's not. A particularly. Sympathetic

1154
01:29:20,001 --> 01:29:25,160
site. For relocation. And again, it requires a wholesale demolition

1155
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:29,510
of what we have. She's an elderly lady. She's trying

1156
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:32,470
to get her family to move in and. Help, so

1157
01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:37,543
we're trying to keep cods down for. It can't be

1158
01:29:37,543 --> 01:29:39,663
the only driving force, but it does have to be

1159
01:29:39,663 --> 01:29:46,995
part of it. That. Any relocation requires. Completely. Designed and.

1160
01:29:48,531 --> 01:29:54,920
Complete. Destruction of what is built over again, an interpretation

1161
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,040
of what it says in terms of it shouldn't appear

1162
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:01,960
to be mass bigger. Which it won't be. It's still

1163
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,880
the same narrow building, but just a higher. Footprint. It

1164
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:09,520
doesn't create a more opposing structure, and it still complies

1165
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,328
with all of the other aspects. A comment from a

1166
01:30:13,328 --> 01:30:17,590
member of the committee. Thank you, Mr. Mccoll. I know.

1167
01:30:19,538 --> 01:30:23,471
The lot, and it is a conundrum to get. What

1168
01:30:23,471 --> 01:30:27,191
you hope to achieve, but I'd still like to believe

1169
01:30:27,191 --> 01:30:32,805
that. There is a win win by. Further discussion. With

1170
01:30:32,805 --> 01:30:38,630
the city. If you did explore. Moving that up closer

1171
01:30:38,630 --> 01:30:44,504
to the street as our chair indicated. But I can

1172
01:30:44,504 --> 01:30:50,164
appreciate the need for. That suite. For your in laws.

1173
01:30:51,783 --> 01:30:56,344
But. It is a challenging lot. Whatever we decide, I

1174
01:30:56,344 --> 01:31:02,710
hope that. You can continue to work. With the Sadi

1175
01:31:02,710 --> 01:31:06,190
to come up with a scenario where it's a win

1176
01:31:06,190 --> 01:31:11,168
win for everyone. Perfectly Frank. We haven't had much discussion

1177
01:31:11,168 --> 01:31:14,208
with the city. They haven't proposed any. Sort of alternates.

1178
01:31:14,208 --> 01:31:16,928
Just a straight zone. This is the first I've heard

1179
01:31:16,928 --> 01:31:23,459
about moving. It forward. To accommodate any sort of setbacks,

1180
01:31:23,459 --> 01:31:27,262
staff has now been coming with anything other than. We're

1181
01:31:27,262 --> 01:31:30,222
going to deny, so it's difficult for us to work

1182
01:31:30,222 --> 01:31:32,902
with the city. If we're not getting any information, this

1183
01:31:32,902 --> 01:31:37,229
is not our wheelhouse. I'm not 100% sure we can,

1184
01:31:37,229 --> 01:31:40,029
but we're willing to explore. We've? Changed drawings. We've done

1185
01:31:40,029 --> 01:31:44,109
other things we're more than willing to accommodate, but. This

1186
01:31:44,109 --> 01:31:46,509
direction only seems to appear in these meetings, and it's

1187
01:31:46,509 --> 01:31:50,553
never brought forward. Prior to so that these solutions can

1188
01:31:50,553 --> 01:31:55,073
be finished. And now we're going to kick in. Another

1189
01:31:55,073 --> 01:31:59,113
30 days down the road. Plus, we're into winter before

1190
01:31:59,113 --> 01:32:03,543
we can even apply for a building permit. Yes, Mr.

1191
01:32:03,543 --> 01:32:13,113
Mccallough. Go ahead. I did hear staff say that. Maybe

1192
01:32:13,113 --> 01:32:16,673
repeat it again, that if it was moved, the height

1193
01:32:16,673 --> 01:32:19,941
wouldn't be an issue. It could be because. It was.

1194
01:32:19,941 --> 01:32:21,541
Maybe you explain that again. I'm just going to ask

1195
01:32:21,541 --> 01:32:25,193
the staff to explain. That again. This situation based on

1196
01:32:25,193 --> 01:32:29,971
its present location. Staff don't support the increased height of

1197
01:32:29,971 --> 01:32:34,353
6 meters. However, previous approvals for increased height for accessory

1198
01:32:34,353 --> 01:32:39,427
buildings happen based on the fact that. Setbacks. For example,

1199
01:32:39,427 --> 01:32:41,747
the one for king. Today I was considered provided a

1200
01:32:41,747 --> 01:32:44,387
17 meters setback. From the rear yard so we can

1201
01:32:44,387 --> 01:32:48,390
support that as. There's no privacy issue or on the

1202
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:50,830
neighboring properties in the backyard where that wouldn't be the

1203
01:32:50,830 --> 01:32:54,825
case here, as the building would be too tall. So

1204
01:32:54,825 --> 01:32:56,985
it's 17 meters setback. We put it out in the

1205
01:32:56,985 --> 01:33:05,019
middle of Orchard. Again. It's a non starter. Room for

1206
01:33:05,019 --> 01:33:07,499
that setback to accommodate, so it's really not even an

1207
01:33:07,499 --> 01:33:12,189
option. In this circumstance. Do you want to come in?

1208
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:17,719
Moreover, in addition to this achieving setbacks, the idea of

1209
01:33:17,719 --> 01:33:20,479
the accessory buildings, which are meant to be ancillary to

1210
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,239
the main building is that they should be clearly incidental

1211
01:33:23,239 --> 01:33:25,439
and secondary. To the main building. So when someone looks

1212
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,759
at the property, it should be easily identifiable. One is

1213
01:33:27,759 --> 01:33:31,427
an accessory building, and one is a main building. So

1214
01:33:31,427 --> 01:33:33,627
there's an issue with that as well. With this application,

1215
01:33:33,627 --> 01:33:38,224
based on the proposed value. Again, this is a pejorative

1216
01:33:38,224 --> 01:33:43,266
term that we have a tall, narrow building which. Is

1217
01:33:43,266 --> 01:33:46,386
clearly will retain its heritage attributes. It still appears though

1218
01:33:46,386 --> 01:33:49,970
just. The taller staple house. It'll be very clear that

1219
01:33:49,970 --> 01:33:52,530
it's not the same building. Because it'll have a separate

1220
01:33:52,530 --> 01:33:56,283
driveway. All of the boxes that you've asked for in

1221
01:33:56,283 --> 01:33:59,603
that sentence are all ticks. If we widen the building

1222
01:33:59,603 --> 01:34:02,123
and we make it bigger and we bring it forward

1223
01:34:02,123 --> 01:34:04,323
and we do all the other things, then we are

1224
01:34:04,323 --> 01:34:07,606
going to other than the height issue. We are going

1225
01:34:07,606 --> 01:34:10,886
to create this perception that it is the main building

1226
01:34:10,886 --> 01:34:13,006
because there will be two similar size buildings with a

1227
01:34:13,006 --> 01:34:16,995
sprawl in a very small. Lot that now occupies all

1228
01:34:16,995 --> 01:34:19,515
of your view when you pull into the driveway, but.

1229
01:34:21,340 --> 01:34:25,088
As the staff said, we comply with the bylaw. It

1230
01:34:25,088 --> 01:34:28,888
won't comply with the bylaw. It still requires setback approval,

1231
01:34:28,888 --> 01:34:31,888
but it still. Requires a height approval. It doesn't comply

1232
01:34:31,888 --> 01:34:34,328
with the bylaw. It still has to come. Back to

1233
01:34:34,328 --> 01:34:36,848
the committee for all of these variances because it still

1234
01:34:36,848 --> 01:34:41,422
won't comply. With the bylaws. You still need sep, Max.

1235
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:44,840
We're still going to encroach. We can't get away from

1236
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,320
the setback issues in the narrow space if we widen

1237
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,680
the building. So at no point are we going to

1238
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:54,053
comply with the bylaw. All we're doing is reapplying. With.

1239
01:34:54,931 --> 01:34:59,870
The new variance. Application with now four areas of interference.

1240
01:35:03,472 --> 01:35:10,273
Instead of one. But again, I would suggest. Again. Working

1241
01:35:10,273 --> 01:35:13,506
with staff on this matter. I have tried to work

1242
01:35:13,506 --> 01:35:16,266
with staff and all that comes back is this, which.

1243
01:35:18,118 --> 01:35:20,118
We don't agree with. And I guess, like I said,

1244
01:35:20,118 --> 01:35:22,958
we do have other options that we didn't want to

1245
01:35:22,958 --> 01:35:27,788
explore that we bylaw. If their only option is that

1246
01:35:27,788 --> 01:35:31,428
we add further width and depth and bring it forward.

1247
01:35:33,554 --> 01:35:36,668
Then. We're going to be right back here again and

1248
01:35:36,668 --> 01:35:39,962
again. We may support. If they don't support it at

1249
01:35:39,962 --> 01:35:44,889
that point, then we wasted another 30. Days. And we

1250
01:35:44,889 --> 01:35:48,369
don't appear to have any working relationship with the team.

1251
01:35:48,369 --> 01:35:50,809
All we have is do it our way or else.

1252
01:35:50,809 --> 01:35:54,729
And that's all we got from the city, and I.

1253
01:35:54,729 --> 01:35:58,169
Assume this committee wasn't just a rubber stamp. But if

1254
01:35:58,169 --> 01:36:02,363
that's the case, then. We'll vote other options. But the

1255
01:36:02,363 --> 01:36:05,083
idea that we would find four areas of interference to

1256
01:36:05,083 --> 01:36:09,136
avoid one. Based again on the only thing that is

1257
01:36:09,136 --> 01:36:16,203
there is that it shouldn't appear. To. Mine bigger. And

1258
01:36:16,203 --> 01:36:21,520
that's. The only sticking point in this entire. Discussion. Is

1259
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:25,915
that it doesn't appear to be something. Otherwise, we're in

1260
01:36:25,915 --> 01:36:28,675
compliance. All of the rest of the issues we enter,

1261
01:36:28,675 --> 01:36:31,435
if we widen. And we bring forward, we enter into

1262
01:36:31,435 --> 01:36:35,835
a whole new world of problems and issues that may

1263
01:36:35,835 --> 01:36:40,747
or may not be possible to even deal with. The

1264
01:36:40,747 --> 01:36:43,347
idea of moving it forward. If it's 17 meters, can't

1265
01:36:43,347 --> 01:36:46,467
happen. The idea of coming forward to get more floor

1266
01:36:46,467 --> 01:36:50,667
space, enters into fire code violations. That can't happen. So

1267
01:36:50,667 --> 01:36:53,227
all of these come into the realm of what if

1268
01:36:53,227 --> 01:36:57,675
and probably not possible. Over the one sentence of it

1269
01:36:57,675 --> 01:37:02,978
shouldn't appear to be such. Which is an opinion based,

1270
01:37:02,978 --> 01:37:07,185
not a fact based. It's a narrow structure with some

1271
01:37:07,185 --> 01:37:09,385
height that clearly is not going to be the main

1272
01:37:09,385 --> 01:37:12,323
structure on the building. It's definitively not going to be

1273
01:37:12,323 --> 01:37:15,403
viewed as the main. It'll always be. An ancillary building,

1274
01:37:15,403 --> 01:37:18,883
and that definition was placed in there 30 years ago

1275
01:37:18,883 --> 01:37:22,203
when this bylaw was written without the idea that you

1276
01:37:22,203 --> 01:37:26,027
would have an ancillary dwelling. Not an ancillary building, and

1277
01:37:26,027 --> 01:37:31,362
they're completely separate issues. We've heard your comments. Yes, we've

1278
01:37:31,362 --> 01:37:38,372
heard your comments. The committee has heard their comments. Committee.

1279
01:37:38,372 --> 01:37:41,793
Any further questions? I'm going to move a motion that.

1280
01:37:43,925 --> 01:37:51,715
This application. A 2002 564185 Ocean View Boulevard. Orchard view

1281
01:37:51,715 --> 01:37:56,116
boulevard. Be denied, as it does not meet the four

1282
01:37:56,116 --> 01:38:00,235
tests as set out for the committee. And I will

1283
01:38:00,235 --> 01:38:05,251
second that. Have any other comments from the committee? We

1284
01:38:05,251 --> 01:38:07,451
have a motion to deny the application. A motion is

1285
01:38:07,451 --> 01:38:14,250
second vote, please. Dean Lindsay? Yes. Fred Eismond? Yes. Doug

1286
01:38:14,250 --> 01:38:18,290
Thompson? Yes. Application is denied, Mr. McCullough. I will tell

1287
01:38:18,290 --> 01:38:19,770
you, and I said this at the outset of the

1288
01:38:19,770 --> 01:38:22,290
meeting, is that you have the right to appeal this

1289
01:38:22,290 --> 01:38:25,770
decision to the Ontario Land Tribunal. I'm going to just

1290
01:38:25,770 --> 01:38:29,616
repeat that again. I didn't hear that. But that's okay.

1291
01:38:29,616 --> 01:38:31,136
You guys have a good night. Thank you for your

1292
01:38:31,136 --> 01:38:35,930
time. Okay. I just said you have the right to

1293
01:38:35,930 --> 01:38:41,111
appeal. I wanted you to hear that. i did hear

1294
01:38:41,111 --> 01:38:43,332
that thank you okay thank you Have a good night.

1295
01:38:43,332 --> 01:38:49,888
Thank you. Okay. So that concludes.