[0:14] Good evening, congratulations
[0:15] at the City Council meeting
[0:17] Oshkosh council from 22
[0:18] September 2026. Uh,
[0:19] city ​​secretary,
[0:20] please pass
[0:21] roll call.
[0:22] Lefebvre.
[0:22] Here.
[0:23] Esslinger.
[0:23] Here.
[0:24] Spanbauer.
[0:25] Here.
[0:25] Amos.
[0:26] Here.
[0:26] Bulow.
[0:27] Here.
[0:27] Stevenson.
[0:28] Here.
[0:28] And Muktar is absent from
[0:29] a good reason.
[0:30] Thank you. Uh, today
[0:31] invites us to
[0:32] prayers council member
[0:33] Lefebvre.
[0:33] Thank you. Gathering
[0:35] today, we are grateful
[0:36] it's all good that
[0:37] came to our
[0:38] cities. Let our
[0:40] solution always
[0:41] contribute to well-being
[0:42] everyone we manage.
[0:45] Thank you. Today from
[0:46] We have a few friends from
[0:47] Oak Elementary School
[0:49] Lon, who will lead
[0:50] fulfillment of the Oath
[0:51] loyalty.
[1:07] I swear on
[1:08] allegiance to the flag
[1:09] United States
[1:10] America and the Republic,
[1:12] which he personifies,
[1:13] a single nation under
[1:14] By God, indivisible,
[1:15] with freedom and
[1:16] justice for
[1:17] everyone.
[1:20] Okay, and Pat,
[1:21] come back here. WITH
[1:24] we are here Princeton with
[1:25] Oak Lawn. And also
[1:29] Charlotte of Oak Lawn.
[1:30] So I'll give you both
[1:31] possibility
[1:31] express. You
[1:32] can you tell me
[1:33] about your favorite object
[1:35] teacher or just
[1:36] to convey greetings,
[1:37] if you want.
[1:37] E-m. What?
[1:41] is your favorite?
[1:42] subject?
[1:43] Oh. Um, me.
[1:43] everyone likes it
[1:44] teachers, and I love
[1:46] to play basketball,
[1:47] football.
[1:48] Oh, fantastic. And you?
[1:51] Um, my favorite
[1:52] the subject, apparently,
[1:53] physical education, because I can run.
[1:55] Oh, fantastic.
[1:57] And my favorite
[1:58] teacher—probably,
[1:59] Mr. Ward.
[1:59] Okay, sounds good.
[2:00] not bad.
[2:01] You can keep them, and I
[2:02] I'll take a picture if
[2:04] you want.
[2:08] Okay, thank you for
[2:10] help.
[2:22] Okay, next, very
[2:23] happily, we have
[2:24] introducing a new
[2:26] employee. Therefore,
[2:27] uh, mister
[2:28] Krammenacker, right?
[2:29] Could you come over and
[2:30] tell me about yourself?
[2:31] Oh, you can.
[2:31] to stay put,
[2:33] if you want. And, uh,
[2:34] warn everyone about,
[2:35] uh, your pronunciation
[2:36] surnames, because I know,
[2:37] what is it always like for you
[2:38] fun.
[2:39] Okay, thank you very much.
[2:40] to all of you. My name is,
[2:42] uh, Benjamin
[2:42] Krammenacker. Uh,
[2:43] you can call me
[2:45] Ben, if you will. I
[2:46] director of
[2:46] administrative
[2:47] services and
[2:48] organizational
[2:49] efficiency, on
[2:50] about seven positions
[2:51] days, and I really like it
[2:52] I like it. I just
[2:53] I want to say thank you.
[2:55] I am proud of Oshkosh,
[2:56] I am proud of our
[2:57] community. I can
[2:58] to say "our"
[2:59] community, "because I
[3:00] was born here and
[3:00] lived here for a long time
[3:01] part of your life.
[3:02] My wife and I are from
[3:04] Oshkosh, that's why I am proud of where I am, proud to be
[3:06] part of this
[3:07] organizations, and
[3:08] I am really, really proud.
[3:09] this community. So with
[3:10] I am looking forward to
[3:11] many years together
[3:12] work with you. Thank you.
[3:14] Okay, congratulations.
[3:15] Thank you.
[3:22] Before the meeting
[3:23] several were issued
[3:25] proclamations, one of
[3:26] which concerned 40-
[3:27] anniversary of the "Friends of the Center"
[3:28] for the elderly
[3:29] "Oshkosh" was wonderful
[3:31] day, and Rebecca
[3:32] issued it on behalf of
[3:33] mayor, as well as the day "
[3:34] "The Extra Mile" by 1
[3:35] November.
[3:39] Moving on to
[3:40] public appeals
[3:42] to the council, I remind you that
[3:43] this only applies to
[3:44] council. Speeches
[3:45] limited to 5 minutes.
[3:47] If you need
[3:47] more time, give it
[3:48] I want to know if this is
[3:50] essence. The speeches have
[3:51] to address issues,
[3:52] not included in
[3:52] the council agenda,
[3:53] limited by affairs,
[3:54] affecting the city
[3:55] Oshkosh, and the city council
[3:56] can consider them on
[3:57] future meetings
[3:58] . They shouldn't
[3:59] contain support
[4:00] any candidates
[4:01] or pre-election
[4:02] agitation, and the council does not
[4:03] can answer
[4:04] question whether
[4:05] comments at this time.
[4:06] This is not the time for
[4:06] discussions, and
[4:07] possibility
[4:08] to contact the council and
[4:09] to suggest ideas,
[4:10] which can become
[4:10] points of the future
[4:11] agenda. Uh,
[4:13] and I have one person
[4:15] , registered at
[4:16] public comments.
[4:18] Kevin, you're first.
[4:21] Is this a grandstand?
[4:22] Yes, here, be there.
[4:23] affection.
[4:28] Um, I'm Kevin McGuy. I
[4:30] uh citizen of Oshkosh
[4:31] . I've been here a long time,
[4:33] practically everything
[4:34] life. Um, I'm a manager.
[4:36] buildings at the address
[4:37] North Main Street,
[4:39] 404, which is uh
[4:39] multifunctional
[4:41] building. I, in fact,
[4:43] I manage the event.
[4:44] part of this
[4:45] building, which
[4:46] called Venue 404,
[4:47] of course? Above the first
[4:49] upstairs is located
[4:50] several floors, which
[4:51] make up our
[4:52] space for events,
[4:53] There are offices there. Apparently,
[4:55] some of you are already there were lawyers there,
[4:57] architects, uh, you know, consultants
[5:00] etc. So this is
[5:01] professional offices.
[5:04] So, I came here.
[5:05] today, to talk about
[5:07] constant noise that
[5:08] arises—well, sometime
[5:09] it was just because
[5:11] the road in the square, and
[5:12] now it's actually uh
[5:13] on our doorstep. It
[5:15] right on our
[5:16] sidewalks, okay?
[5:17] My office is those offices,
[5:19] which you see when
[5:20] stand and look at
[5:21] this building, this is mine
[5:22] offices. I am literally on
[5:24] sidewalks. The last one
[5:25] sometimes we had uh
[5:27] protests that
[5:27] have been going on for a long time, and
[5:29] noise level from them
[5:30] very high. It
[5:31] interferes with our work
[5:32] offices throughout
[5:33] buildings. But the last one
[5:35] sometimes appeared
[5:36] street preacher
[5:37] , which behaves
[5:38] extremely loud,
[5:39] provocatively and
[5:40] uses very
[5:41] powerful
[5:42] reinforcing
[5:43] column to spread one's
[5:44] letter. And when, uh,
[5:46] he did not receive
[5:47] enough attention to
[5:48] on the other side of the street,
[5:49] he parked on
[5:50] our sidewalk,
[5:51] literally on
[5:52] distance from that
[5:53] the places where you sit,
[5:54] to the front
[5:55] that table. Here it is.
[5:57] parks and puts
[5:58] your column before
[5:59] my office,
[5:59] of course? We understand the law
[6:01] to say everything that
[6:02] if you wish, in
[6:03] public places, with
[6:04] certain restrictions.
[6:05] But what worries us is that
[6:07] it literally gets in the way
[6:08] our activities. It
[6:09] literally
[6:10] makes work impossible
[6:11] consultants who
[6:12] are on
[6:13] second floor. We
[6:15] made records, and in
[6:16] some moment,
[6:17] maybe this, you know,
[6:18] will move forward, we
[6:19] let's share some
[6:20] records. Its clearly
[6:22] hear on the eighth
[6:23] floor, in
[6:24] attorney's
[6:25] offices and everywhere there.
[6:26] So it's not about
[6:27] that we don't care what
[6:29] people say, you
[6:29] Can you be in favor or not?
[6:30] against anything. Me
[6:32] it doesn't matter. I'm talking about
[6:33] that it is literally
[6:34] makes our
[6:35] work, as well as
[6:36] other enterprises in
[6:37] this area has
[6:39] this is a problem, and I
[6:39] talked to many
[6:41] of them who expressed
[6:42] similar concerns. I
[6:43] didn't bring it to
[6:44] collection level
[6:45] written signatures,
[6:46] but maybe we are
[6:47] we will do it. Uh-huh. We expect certain
[6:52] advice and perhaps
[6:53] order from
[6:54] of the city council, which
[6:55] will solve this problem.
[6:57] We know that
[6:58] lately
[6:59] the police often
[6:59] interacts with this
[7:00] a specific person, and
[7:02] I think the police
[7:03] a bit confused, or
[7:04] wrong? They don't have
[7:05] leverage, right?
[7:06] They can't do anything.
[7:07] to do with this, although it
[7:08] is already going beyond
[7:09] intelligent. This does not have
[7:10] nothing to do with
[7:11] common sense. It
[7:12] provocative type
[7:13] demonstrations by
[7:14] this person. And they
[7:15] nothing really
[7:17] can do something about it.
[7:18] So, this became for us
[7:19] a real problem
[7:20] , and this is happening
[7:21] almost every day. We
[7:23] saw the police
[7:24] recently recorded
[7:25] decibel level, because
[7:26] I know that they are
[7:27] concerned about this, and
[7:29] any reasonable
[7:30] person standing on
[7:31] square, hears that it is
[7:32] foolishly. You can
[7:34] hear them from a block away,
[7:35] very loud So,
[7:36] if you are not sure,
[7:37] just go there
[7:38] take a look,
[7:39] What do you think about this?
[7:40] is abnormal. It
[7:42] foolishly. There are
[7:43] city ​​ordinances that
[7:44] regulate certain
[7:45] noise issue.
[7:46] Actually, recently, in
[7:48] pub-
[7:48] crawl, you have determined
[7:50] excessive noise as one
[7:51] for reasons for
[7:52] intervention in such
[7:53] things. We understand that
[7:54] bar crawl
[7:55] differs from
[7:56] human rights to the first
[7:57] amendment to
[7:57] constitution, which
[7:58] allows you to say that
[8:00] what she wants, in the square
[8:01] . But the point is that
[8:02] there should be a reasonable limit
[8:04] so that it does not violate
[8:05] other people's rights
[8:06] to do one's own thing
[8:07] affairs. Your
[8:10] message
[8:11] today indicated
[8:12] that everything we
[8:14] here we do, has
[8:14] to take into account the interests
[8:16] all citizens, not
[8:17] only one right
[8:18] person intentionally,
[8:19] to shout provocatively
[8:20] and hinder business
[8:22] right next to ours
[8:23] thresholds. So, I'm a little
[8:26] investigated this issue,
[8:27] and many cities in this
[8:28] in the area have
[8:29] relevant
[8:29] order. You,
[8:30] maybe about this
[8:31] you know. I am sure
[8:32] What do you know about this?
[8:33] but, you know, I know that
[8:34] discussions on this
[8:35] The reason was already being discussed.
[8:39] Fond du Lac, Appleton,
[8:40] Waukesha, Madison,
[8:41] Milwaukee—they all have
[8:43] the order that
[8:44] relate to the violation
[8:45] public peace
[8:46] noise, and they
[8:47] determine this or
[8:48] decibel level, or
[8:50] the distance from which it comes
[8:51] sound to set
[8:52] reasonable noise level,
[8:54] which allows
[8:54] to respect the right
[8:55] person to freedom
[8:57] words, but at the same time
[8:58] does not violate the rights
[8:59] others, for example,
[9:00] our enterprises,
[9:01] who are trying
[9:02] continue working.
[9:08] So we hope,
[9:10] what can you do
[9:10] consider this
[9:11] question. Police
[9:14] informed us that
[9:15] they discussed it
[9:16] with the city prosecutor,
[9:17] which at this moment
[9:18] decided to admit
[9:19] situation such that
[9:20] is outside
[9:21] under his control. I
[9:23] called several times
[9:24] to the city prosecutor. WITH
[9:25] for some reason I
[9:26] They didn't call back. So
[9:28] I don't know how we
[9:29] resolve this issue.
[9:31] But we, and
[9:32] businesses around
[9:33] us, really
[9:34] trying to find
[9:35] way of conducting oneself
[9:36] business every day, not
[9:37] interrupting through
[9:38] loud noise from
[9:39] protesters and
[9:40] street
[9:41] preachers. Here in such a situation we
[9:45] found themselves. Thank you.
[9:46] Kevin. Someone
[9:49] still wants to do
[9:50] public statements regarding
[9:51] questions not included
[9:52] to the agenda?
[9:54] Okay, I see that no one,
[9:55] so let's move on to
[9:56] agenda.
[9:57] Can be obtained
[9:58] proposal and
[9:59] support for
[10:00] agenda?
[10:00] I suggest.
[10:01] I support.
[10:03] Is there anyone from
[10:04] the public regarding
[10:05] agenda?
[10:07] OK. Are there any
[10:09] discussion among
[10:11] you? Good. Please
[10:13] , start
[10:14] roll call vote
[10:15] .
[10:15] Lefebvre.
[10:16] By.
[10:16] Esslinger.
[10:17] By.
[10:17] Spanbauer.
[10:18] By.
[10:18] Amos.
[10:19] By.
[10:19] Beulah.
[10:20] By.
[10:20] Stevenson.
[10:21] By.
[10:21] Six "for", zero "no"
[10:22] against".
[10:23] Good. Question, no
[10:24] brought to order
[10:25] daytime. First
[10:26] we have a new point
[10:27] resolution, decree
[10:29] 2642, on the creation
[10:30] section 17-1.4 and
[10:31] making changes to
[10:33] sections 17-46 and 17-47
[10:34] municipal
[10:35] Oshkosh City Code
[10:36] regarding regulation
[10:38] cannabinoids,
[10:39] obtained from
[10:40] hemp. I have
[10:41] one registered
[10:42] person to speak with
[10:43] this question, but I don't see her here. Oh, here
[10:45] Ashley. Yes.
[10:46] I am short.
[10:47] Yes, no problem.
[10:49] Sorry. Come closer.
[10:53] Congratulations. I'm Ashley Romlo,
[10:56] I represent the Service
[10:57] public
[10:58] county health
[10:59] Winnebago and
[10:59] Breakwater organization,
[11:00] what is our coalition
[11:01] on prevention
[11:02] use
[11:03] psychoactive
[11:04] substances among young people
[11:05] in the city. Thank you members
[11:07] council and city council
[11:08] staff for their thoughts
[11:09] and time dedicated
[11:10] this resolution. I want
[11:14] to express sincere
[11:14] gratitude for life
[11:16] proactive steps
[11:17] to strengthen
[11:18] youth protection in
[11:19] Oshkosh. Installation
[11:23] clear and
[11:24] consistent
[11:24] resolutions regarding
[11:25] intoxicating products from
[11:27] cannabinoids
[11:27] hemp is...This is
[11:29] many syllables. It
[11:32] an important step for
[11:33] community safety, and we sincerely appreciate your
[11:35] work that led
[11:36] us up to this point.
[11:38] Public service
[11:39] county health
[11:40] Winnebago supports
[11:42] sales restrictions
[11:43] these intoxicating products
[11:44] for people aged 21 and over
[11:45] year and attraction
[11:46] retailers
[11:48] to responsibility,
[11:49] if they don't
[11:50] check age. WITH
[11:51] research in the field
[11:52] public
[11:53] we know health,
[11:54] that access restrictions
[11:55] at points of sale—
[11:56] one of
[11:57] the most effective
[11:58] ways to prevent
[11:59] use among
[12:00] young people. So
[12:00] concentration of attention
[12:01] at retail
[12:02] sellers—very
[12:03] an important step. Council
[12:05] could consider
[12:06] possibility
[12:06] increase in fines
[12:07] for owners
[12:08] institutions instead of or
[12:09] in addition to fines
[12:10] for sellers.
[12:13] At the same time, I urge
[12:15] please review
[12:16] punishment for buying,
[12:17] use or
[12:18] possession
[12:18] minors.
[12:22] Policy research
[12:23] regarding tobacco and
[12:24] alcohol consistently
[12:25] show that such
[12:27] fines are not reduced
[12:28] substance use
[12:29] among young people.
[12:32] Instead, they
[12:33] can lead to
[12:34] excessive pressure on
[12:35] young people and
[12:36] translate
[12:36] responsibility for
[12:37] adults and business,
[12:38] which can actually
[12:42] control access
[12:43] to these products.
[12:45] The youth would receive
[12:46] more benefit from
[12:48] education, support or
[12:49] similar alternatives
[12:50] than from cash
[12:51] fines. Ago
[12:52] focusing on
[12:53] compliance with the rules
[12:54] sellers and education
[12:55] young people are better
[12:56] will contribute to the development
[12:57] and harm reduction.
[12:58] We are grateful for your
[12:59] work on this
[13:00] by resolution and for your
[13:01] openness to
[13:02] views
[13:02] public
[13:03] health. Department
[13:04] health care
[13:05] always ready
[13:06] provide you with data or
[13:07] respond to
[13:07] question, and we are very
[13:08] we appreciate your
[13:09] leadership and
[13:10] dedication to the cause.
[13:11] Thank you.
[13:13] Are there any more members?
[13:13] the public, which
[13:14] wish to speak out
[13:16] this issue
[13:16] agenda?
[13:17] Okay, because
[13:18] There are no volunteers, I am waiting for an offer.
[13:20] and its maintenance.
[13:21] I support.
[13:22] Okay, thank you. I will start.
[13:26] for this reason, simply because,
[13:28] that Ashley and her team
[13:29] turned to me—
[13:30] the team from Breakwater. They
[13:33] conducted a full audit
[13:34] various retail
[13:35] sellers in
[13:36] municipalities and
[13:37] saw that some
[13:38] sold to persons under 21
[13:40] year, and some only from
[13:41] 21 years, while on
[13:42] tobacco and alcohol
[13:43] the restriction is
[13:44] 21 years and over. Therefore,
[13:46] they proposed
[13:47] I have a few ideas.
[13:49] So I am very grateful.
[13:51] them for this work. They
[13:52] have completed all
[13:53] preparatory work and
[13:54] conducted a study.
[13:56] I am going to make a contribution.
[13:57] small adjustment
[13:58] , a small correction, and
[14:00] I know that the council member
[14:01] Lefever too. If
[14:02] no one mind, I think it would be better.
[14:05] consider them now,
[14:06] so that we can discuss
[14:07] already a complete version.
[14:09] Therefore, I propose
[14:09] to amend
[14:11] provisions on penalties
[14:12] sanctions, so that any
[14:13] which retail
[14:14] salesperson, operator
[14:15] trading
[14:16] vending machines or other
[14:17] person who violates
[14:18] section 17-1.4 B2 (
[14:19] sales ban
[14:20] persons under 21 years of age),
[14:21] was subject to collection
[14:22] in the amount of at least 100
[14:23] dollars plus court fees
[14:24] costs. All others
[14:25] fines and regulations
[14:27] remain unchanged.
[14:29] I am making a suggestion.
[14:30] I support.
[14:32] OK. My goal is—
[14:35] to make it clear,
[14:37] that retail
[14:38] sellers will
[14:39] punished more severely,
[14:40] than individuals,
[14:41] due to legal costs.
[14:44] Even if we
[14:45] imposed a fine of 1
[14:46] dollar for private
[14:47] person, it's not much
[14:48] will change the overall
[14:49] amount, because the court
[14:51] the costs are
[14:52] most of it. As
[14:54] our boss said
[14:55] police, fine
[14:56] only needed for
[14:57] software
[14:58] compliance with the rules. It
[15:03] not what for
[15:04] they will be
[15:04] to specifically search
[15:05] reasons for fines.
[15:08] Is there any more discussion?
[15:09] regarding the amendment that I
[15:10] suggested? OK.
[15:13] If you want
[15:14] to hold a vote
[15:15] .
[15:15] Lefever.
[15:16] By.
[15:16] Esslinger.
[15:17] By.
[15:17] Spanbauer.
[15:18] By.
[15:19] Amos.
[15:19] By.
[15:20] Jul.
[15:20] By.
[15:21] Stevenson.
[15:21] By.
[15:22] 6-0.
[15:23] Thank you. And now, member
[15:24] for the sake of Lefebvre, yours
[15:25] word.
[15:26] Thank you. Yes, thank you.
[15:27] Deputy Mayor for
[15:28] passing this
[15:29] question. I support
[15:31] this resolution. I believe,
[15:33] that installation 21
[15:34] year as a minimum
[15:35] age to purchase
[15:36] of these products has
[15:38] sense. In states where
[15:39] permitted use
[15:40] cannabis for adults, 21
[15:42] year is standard
[15:43] age threshold, therefore
[15:44] I think it is important.
[15:45] achieve
[15:46] sequences in
[15:47] on this issue. Of
[15:53] corrections, I'm worried
[15:54] section 17-1.4 b 4, which
[15:56] establishes a 500-foot
[15:57] seat restrictions
[15:59] selling these
[15:59] products, particularly in
[16:01] within 500 feet of
[16:02] hospitals, churches or
[16:04] organizations that
[16:05] serve children.
[16:11] The last category,
[16:12] in particular, it seems
[16:14] Too wide for me.
[16:16] Any organization,
[16:17] who works with children,
[16:18] can cover
[16:19] the most diverse
[16:20] places. Besides, I don't
[16:22] I'm sure that this is
[16:23] formulation
[16:24] helps to solve
[16:25] the problem that
[16:26] this is directed
[16:26] resolution, namely—
[16:27] installation
[16:28] minimum age. I
[16:30] raised this issue
[16:31] in front of the city
[16:32] manager and city
[16:33] lawyer on Friday.
[16:37] Some of these shops
[16:38] working in Oshkosh already
[16:39] for years, and I asked,
[16:40] do we know, can we
[16:42] this provision
[16:43] to touch already
[16:43] existing business.
[16:46] A clear answer to
[16:47] This question was not asked.
[16:51] Then I suggested
[16:52] opportunity to leave
[16:53] existing business on
[16:54] old conditions, but
[16:55] city ​​lawyer
[16:56] expressed doubt whether
[16:57] maybe it's legal in
[16:59] within the limits of this resolution.
[17:03] We also discussed
[17:04] practical difficulties with
[17:06] administration and
[17:07] by doing this
[17:08] specific
[17:08] sub-item. Ultimately, and
[17:12] city ​​manager, and
[17:14] city ​​lawyer
[17:14] noted that
[17:15] the simplest
[17:16] the solution would be
[17:17] just cancel
[17:18] geographical
[17:19] limitation. So if
[17:24] geographical
[17:25] concentration or
[17:26] location of these
[17:27] institutions will become
[17:28] problem in the future, I think
[17:30] that we can
[17:31] consider this
[17:32] separate questions and
[17:33] carefully, but now I don't see that.
[17:35] contributed to the purpose of the submitted
[17:36] resolutions. So, with
[17:43] In view of this, I propose to introduce
[17:46] amendments to the resolution
[17:47] 26-42, completely
[17:48] by removing section 17-1.4
[17:50] B 4 on restrictions
[17:51] points of sale and
[17:52] renumbered
[17:54] relevant sub-items
[17:55] . I support.
[18:01] Is there a discussion about
[18:03] this amendment? OK
[18:05] , no comments.
[18:06] Please pass.
[18:07] roll call vote
[18:08] .
[18:08] Leffingwell.
[18:09] By.
[18:09] Esslinger.
[18:10] By.
[18:10] Spanbauer.
[18:11] By.
[18:12] Amos.
[18:12] By.
[18:13] Billo.
[18:13] By.
[18:14] Stevenson.
[18:14] By.
[18:15] Sixkiller.
[18:16] So, now on
[18:17] consideration is made
[18:18] resolution with two already
[18:19] amended
[18:20] . Is there a conversation or
[18:21] comments on this
[18:22] reason?
[18:24] First of all, thank you.
[18:25] to the deputy mayor for that
[18:27] who endured this
[18:28] issue for consideration.
[18:29] Thank you to everyone who took
[18:30] participation in the preparation
[18:31] this question. I think this is wonderful.
[18:33] resolution, and it
[18:34] very useful for
[18:35] the health of our youth
[18:37] here in Oshkosh.
[18:38] Last weekend I
[18:39] conducted research with
[18:40] this topic and I want
[18:41] to emphasize
[18:42] several moments. CDC
[18:44] conducted scientific
[18:46] research that
[18:47] indicate that individuals
[18:48] under 21 years old
[18:49] particularly vulnerable to
[18:50] abuse
[18:51] psychoactive
[18:52] substances and
[18:53] dependencies. I believe
[18:55] that scientific
[18:56] research should
[18:57] and further
[18:57] to be used
[18:58] for forming
[18:59] public policy
[19:00] and results in the field of public
[19:01] health. So simple
[19:03] I want to note this.
[19:06] Also brain development
[19:07] lasts up to 25 years, and
[19:09] the last part that
[19:10] ripens, it is
[19:11] prefrontal cortex,
[19:12] which is responsible for
[19:13] impulse control,
[19:15] which makes people under 21
[19:16] year more prone
[19:17] to dependencies and
[19:19] social pressure. AND
[19:23] latest: FDA received
[19:25] over 300 messages
[19:26] about side effects,
[19:28] some of which
[19:29] concerned persons
[19:30] under the age of 21, which
[19:32] consumed products from
[19:33] Delta-8 THC in the period from 2021
[19:35] until 2023. Almost
[19:36] half of the cases
[19:37] led to
[19:38] hospitalization or
[19:39] appeals to
[19:40] branches
[19:41] urgent
[19:41] assistance, and about 2/3
[19:43] related to food
[19:44] products with Delta-8 THC,
[19:45] such as candy or
[19:46] brownies. So I think,
[19:50] that the presence of these
[19:51] precautions are
[19:52] very important for
[19:53] assistance and
[19:54] containment of our
[19:55] young people from
[19:55] consumption of these
[19:56] intoxicating
[19:57] products and, possibly,
[19:58] development of addiction
[20:00] from them. I also think
[20:04] for important
[20:05] inform the community,
[20:06] that these products are not
[20:07] were evaluated and not
[20:08] FDA approved for
[20:09] safe
[20:10] using. Some of
[20:16] these products
[20:16] contain harmful
[20:17] impurities, and some
[20:18] can cause
[20:19] mental health problems
[20:20] health, paranoia and
[20:22] to influence
[20:22] people's ability
[20:23] to take rational
[20:24] decision. I think so.
[20:29] it is worth paying attention to,
[20:30] discussing this topic.
[20:33] And the last thing I want
[20:35] add: I think this
[20:36] resolution also
[20:37] will provide clear
[20:38] boundaries for business and
[20:39] young people here in Oshkosh.
[20:44] This will also eliminate any
[20:46] which is possible
[20:47] conflict with
[20:47] state law
[20:49] Wisconsin, which
[20:50] establishes that access
[20:51] to these products
[20:52] allowed to persons
[20:53] aged 21 and over. Therefore
[20:57] , for all these reasons I support this.
[20:59] today I want more
[21:00] thank you once again for
[21:01] introducing this
[21:02] question.
[21:04] Is there any more discussion?
[21:06] Since there is none, be
[21:07] please guide
[21:08] voting.
[21:09] Lefebvre.
[21:09] By.
[21:10] Esslinger.
[21:10] By.
[21:11] Spanbauer.
[21:12] By.
[21:12] Amos.
[21:13] By.
[21:13] Yulow.
[21:14] By.
[21:14] Stevenson.
[21:15] By.
[21:15] Six-zero.
[21:16] Thank you. Resolution 2644:
[21:18] approval
[21:19] amendments to
[21:20] resolutions on
[21:21] zoning regarding
[21:22] kindergartens in
[21:24] sections 30-78 K and 30-86 F
[21:26] Municipal
[21:27] of the Oshkosh City Code.
[21:29] Planning Commission
[21:30] recommends approval.
[21:31] Need a quote
[21:33] and support.
[21:33] I make a suggestion.
[21:35] I support.
[21:36] Have a question for
[21:36] discussion? OK,
[21:38] since there is none, be
[21:39] please guide
[21:40] voting.
[21:40] Lefebvre.
[21:41] By.
[21:41] Esslinger.
[21:42] By.
[21:42] Spanbauer.
[21:43] By.
[21:44] Amos.
[21:44] By.
[21:45] Yulow.
[21:45] By.
[21:46] Stevenson.
[21:46] By.
[21:47] Six-zero.
[21:48] Resolution 26-43:
[21:49] approval of change
[21:50] zoning with heavy
[21:51] industrial to heavy
[21:53] industrial with
[21:54] by overlaying the plan
[21:55] development (HIPD) for
[21:56] object at address 1222
[21:58] West South Park Avenue. Commission
[21:59] from planning
[22:00] recommends approval.
[22:01] Offer and
[22:02] support.
[22:02] I make a suggestion,
[22:03] I support.
[22:04] Is there a discussion? Be
[22:06] Please vote.
[22:07] Spend
[22:07] voting.
[22:08] Lefebvre.
[22:09] By.
[22:09] Esslinger.
[22:10] By.
[22:10] Spanbauer.
[22:11] By.
[22:11] Amos.
[22:12] By.
[22:12] Billo.
[22:13] By.
[22:13] Stevenson.
[22:14] By.
[22:14] Six-zero.
[22:15] Moving on to new ones
[22:16] resolutions. Resolution
[22:18] 26-436: approval
[22:19] master plan
[22:21] development and
[22:22] specific plan
[22:23] implementation for
[22:24] new ground
[22:26] signs at 1222
[22:27] West South Park Avenue. Commission
[22:29] from planning
[22:29] recommends approval.
[22:30] I make a suggestion.
[22:32] I support.
[22:32] Sorry.
[22:33] I just wanted to say that to me
[22:34] there is no one to do this with
[22:35] to discuss.
[22:35] Yes. Thank you.
[22:36] Uh, are there any?
[22:37] discussion? Be
[22:38] Please, signal.
[22:38] Conduct a roll call
[22:39] voting.
[22:39] Lafferty Burke.
[22:40] By.
[22:40] Esslinger.
[22:41] By.
[22:42] Spanbauer.
[22:42] By.
[22:43] Amos.
[22:43] By.
[22:44] Billo.
[22:44] By.
[22:45] Stevenson.
[22:45] By.
[22:46] Six-zero.
[22:46] Resolution 26-437:
[22:47] approve the agreement on
[22:49] development with White Label Lofts
[22:50] LLC for projects
[22:51] affordable housing.
[22:52] Proposal
[22:53] supported.
[22:54] Accepted.
[22:55] Second proposal.
[22:56] Hello everyone. I have
[22:58] request. We noticed
[23:00] error in resolution,
[23:01] so I need
[23:02] amendment. In the second
[23:05] the paragraph that says "
[23:06] to decide further",
[23:08] municipal
[23:09] financial
[23:10] obligation not
[23:11] must exceed
[23:13] the amount specified above—2
[23:15] 197 442. The amount indicated
[23:17] now, 2,163,038, there are
[23:18] incorrect. We
[23:20] updated this amount after
[23:22] data correction.
[23:23] So I need
[23:24] amendment. I'm sorry.
[23:27] I propose to introduce
[23:28] amendment with those
[23:29] the numbers she
[23:30] presented.
[23:31] Second proposal.
[23:32] Does that suit you, Amy?
[23:36] Yes, but give me
[23:37] a second, because I see
[23:38] discrepancy,
[23:39] so I'll check quickly
[23:40] contract. Wait.
[23:45] Yes, the sum is 442. I
[23:48] noticed that in
[23:50] resolution higher amount
[23:51] is listed as 422. So, that there is no confusion
[23:59] : $2,197,442.
[24:03] 442 dollars. And this is the amount,
[24:05] reflected in our
[24:06] note?
[24:07] There is
[24:08] Two mistakes?
[24:11] They are in the note, but
[24:12] in the resolution it
[24:13] is listed twice, and in the second case
[24:15] numbers too
[24:16] mixed up in places.
[24:19] So I just wanted to clarify that in
[24:21] note, or,
[24:21] I'm sorry, in
[24:22] resolution is two numbers
[24:24] which are needed
[24:24] update.
[24:25] Okay, the resolution about
[24:26] amendments to
[24:27] under consideration. We have
[24:28] proposal and its
[24:29] support. Are there any
[24:31] discussion? OK,
[24:32] we spend
[24:32] vote on
[24:33] amendments.
[24:33] Lafferty Burke.
[24:34] By.
[24:35] Esslinger.
[24:35] By.
[24:36] Spanbauer.
[24:37] By.
[24:37] Amos.
[24:38] By.
[24:38] Buhler.
[24:38] By.
[24:39] Stevenson.
[24:40] By.
[24:40] Six-zero.
[24:41] Okay, then 26437 of
[24:43] taking into account amendments
[24:45] . Is there a discussion?
[24:49] I want too
[24:49] to speak out of this
[24:50] reason. Again,
[24:52] I think it's still
[24:53] one wonderful
[24:53] decree,
[24:54] presented
[24:55] tonight.
[24:56] The reason why I want
[24:57] to express an opinion on
[24:58] of this project,
[24:59] is that he
[25:01] personally close
[25:02] me. When I
[25:04] started his journey
[25:05] in civil service
[25:06] last year,
[25:07] running for
[25:08] vacant seat on the council
[25:09] , former council member
[25:11] Nichols asked me,
[25:12] What's the problem in Oshkosh?
[25:13] is the largest. Mine
[25:16] the answer then was
[25:17] lack of availability
[25:18] housing. And, um, I think that
[25:21] this project
[25:21] directly
[25:22] solves the problem
[25:23] lack of available
[25:25] housing here in Oshkosh.
[25:26] So I am determined.
[25:27] I support this and just
[25:28] I want to highlight some
[25:30] key points
[25:31] of this project. I know,
[25:34] what, um, council member, uh...
[25:36] I? Steve is in favor.
[25:40] Who are you looking at?...
[25:41] highlighted some of these
[25:42] key points on
[25:43] last meeting,
[25:44] but I want to again
[25:45] emphasize them, because
[25:46] This is a great project.
[25:47] Therefore, the proposed
[25:49] the development will unite
[25:50] five plots in
[25:51] the area, as I understand it,
[25:52] between 9th and 10th streets
[25:54] and Main Street, and
[25:55] will transform this
[25:56] playground for about
[25:57] 49 residential units.
[25:59] It is expected that some
[26:01] the apartments will be
[26:02] available approximately
[26:03] for $475 on
[26:04] month. And this project
[26:07] contributes to further
[26:08] investments and
[26:09] revival along
[26:10] South Main Street.
[26:12] So thank you to Sarah and her
[26:14] team. Thanks Todd,
[26:15] to the developer, and his
[26:17] team for
[26:17] investing in Oshkosh,
[26:19] or for having chosen
[26:20] invest in Oshkosh.
[26:21] And again, I support this.
[26:24] Thank you.
[26:26] Is there any more discussion?
[26:28] Okay, I don't see it.
[26:29] Resolution 26-437 in
[26:31] revised edition.
[26:33] Leffelholz.
[26:34] By.
[26:34] Slinger.
[26:35] By.
[26:35] Spanbauer.
[26:36] By.
[26:36] Amos.
[26:37] By.
[26:37] Buhler.
[26:38] By.
[26:38] Stevenson.
[26:39] By.
[26:39] Sixkiller.
[26:40] OK. Resolution 26441:
[26:42] approve the mortgage
[26:43] transfer of rights for
[26:44] development agreement with
[26:45] White Label Lofts LLC on
[26:46] benefit of Horicon Bank.
[26:47] Need a quote
[26:48] and its support.
[26:49] Therefore...
[26:50] I support.
[26:52] Is there a discussion or
[26:53] question?
[26:55] Sara, do you want
[26:55] tell us what it is
[26:57] like this?
[26:57] Good. So, there are
[26:59] cases when
[27:00] developers
[27:01] you need to take what
[27:02] we provide them with both
[27:03] payment upon receipt, and
[27:04] to take to the bank,
[27:05] to get money
[27:06] immediately. We are no longer
[27:08] we provide funds
[27:09] developers immediately
[27:10] in advance. Trend
[27:11] the last one
[27:12] decades—this
[27:13] installment payment for
[27:14] fact. So, when
[27:15] there is an increase, we pay the developer
[27:18] based on this. IN this case, to
[27:20] the project worked,
[27:21] Todd needs
[27:22] contact the bank,
[27:23] and the bank then demands
[27:24] collateral transfer
[27:25] rights, which means that
[27:26] they are actually
[27:27] are entitled
[27:28] ownership of these funds
[27:29] . And this is just a legal
[27:31] agreement that allows
[27:32] them to do it. We don't often see it like this
[27:35] quickly, but in this
[27:36] case we know that
[27:37] Todd needs this,
[27:38] to continue
[27:39] work, so we
[27:40] asked for permission
[27:41] change order
[27:42] daytime, so that
[27:43] quickly submit it to you.
[27:45] Thank you. Council member
[27:48] Erfling.
[27:48] Thank you. So, with
[27:49] from a legal point of view,
[27:51] this is more like
[27:51] promissory note than
[27:53] for something else?
[27:53] This is a tool
[27:54] software. Almost
[27:56] Yes. The bank needs
[27:59] council's permission for it
[28:01] transmission, so we
[28:02] here today.
[28:04] OK. Without further ado
[28:05] questions or
[28:05] discussions, be
[28:06] please guide
[28:07] roll call.
[28:07] Laffibur.
[28:08] By.
[28:09] Esslinger.
[28:09] By.
[28:10] Spanbauer.
[28:11] By.
[28:11] Amos.
[28:11] By.
[28:12] Buller.
[28:12] By.
[28:13] Stevenson.
[28:14] By.
[28:14] Sixo.
[28:15] OK. Resolution 26438
[28:16] approved the refusal,
[28:18] transfer of premises
[28:19] and issuance
[28:20] combined
[28:21] Class B licenses for
[28:23] beer/alcohol from Los
[28:24] Tres Amigos Mexican Restaurant LLC,
[28:26] which conducts activities
[28:27] called Los Tres Tres
[28:29] Amigos at South
[28:30] 2070 Koller Street, to The
[28:32] Warehouse Lounge LLC, which runs
[28:33] activity under
[28:34] called The Warehouse Lounge by
[28:36] at Oregon Avenue,
[28:38] 800, Agent Sarah Mayhew.
[28:39] Support is needed. THERE ARE
[28:41] -eh, proposal,
[28:42] support.
[28:43] I support.
[28:44] Second.
[28:45] Is there a discussion? I only,
[28:51] uh, city clerk
[28:52] Salinas and I
[28:53] discussed
[28:54] today, there are several
[28:55] points in the monument,
[28:56] which have not yet been verified,
[28:58] they are still working
[28:59] to agree on
[29:00] all inspections, and
[29:01] license not
[29:02] it seems that everything is fine so far
[29:03] will not be completed.
[29:07] No, she is being given out. You
[29:09] Are you releasing it today?
[29:10] as a corporation.
[29:11] We are giving it away.
[29:12] today, but they are not
[29:13] will be able to
[29:14] activate. It
[29:14] right? Type
[29:16] No.
[29:20] A minor point in
[29:21] because they are not
[29:22] will be able, for example,
[29:23] sell alcohol and
[29:24] to use it,
[29:25] until they are
[29:26] all completed
[29:27] inspections. What am I in?
[29:28] Am I wrong?
[29:30] So, when the council issues
[29:32] her, this is the moment of delivery
[29:33] licenses. Like when
[29:35] you provide it
[29:36] tonight,
[29:37] Okay.
[29:38] they will have active
[29:39] alcohol license.
[29:41] If you want it
[29:42] take away, us
[29:42] will have to go through hearing about
[29:45] cancellation, as we
[29:46] did before.
[29:48] So now they are still
[29:49] waiting for
[29:50] completion of inspections
[29:51] district, service
[29:52] health care
[29:52] Winnebago and
[29:53] fire department
[29:54] Oshkosh.
[29:54] Mhm.
[29:56] So how do we give out
[29:57] license when they
[29:59] still waiting for
[30:00] checks?
[30:01] You can give it out.
[30:02] today, and if they
[30:03] will start working
[30:04] without all the necessary
[30:06] permits, decisions
[30:07] you will be contacted
[30:08] with a hearing on
[30:09] cancellation. Or you can decide not to
[30:13] approve of this
[30:14] tonight.
[30:19] How much time do they have?
[30:20] needed for
[30:21] receiving these
[30:22] permissions?
[30:23] I mean, this
[30:24] fire department inspections
[30:25] service and
[30:25] department
[30:26] health care.
[30:27] They can be
[30:27] completed later
[30:28] today.
[30:29] Of course.
[30:29] You know, it depends.
[30:30] from when they got them
[30:31] will plan and
[30:32] will arrange. I don't have
[30:35] access to your
[30:36] systems today, it
[30:37] Here is the problem. But I know that the fire department
[30:39] service was one or
[30:41] two remarks, they
[30:42] wanted to return
[30:43] for re-use
[30:44] checks. And security
[30:46] health, I think,
[30:47] was on the same, well, on the same front. Them
[30:50] it was necessary
[30:51] to return before
[30:53] to give one's own, one's own
[30:54] blessing.
[30:56] This person wants
[30:57] open already
[30:58] soon?
[30:59] If we postpone this
[31:01] for two weeks, or
[31:02] Will it hurt them?
[31:03] I would not like to answer this. I don't know.
[31:09] Uh, council member
[31:10] Breisinger.
[31:11] Thank you, deputy.
[31:12] mayor. I really like it.
[31:14] inconvenient to give out
[31:15] license, until
[31:16] police and fire department
[31:17] the service will not check
[31:19] everything, because aren't you
[31:20] Agree with me,
[31:21] city ​​lawyer, what
[31:22] then we need
[31:23] there will be a good reason,
[31:24] to cancel this
[31:25] license? And then
[31:29] to pass through
[31:30] all the same as you
[31:31] said the process
[31:32] witness oaths and everything
[31:34] this...this, Rado, I don't
[31:35] I think that's it, to
[31:36] What do we want to achieve?
[31:38] This is just my personal
[31:39] opinion. Hmm, me
[31:40] indifferently. I have on
[31:42] mind if they
[31:43] want to get
[31:43] license, that's good,
[31:45] if everything else
[31:45] approved, but I don't
[31:46] I want to run.
[31:47] in advance. So today
[31:49] I will vote against.
[31:50] Um, in the future,
[31:51] if all goes well,
[31:53] That's another story.
[31:55] As far as I understand,
[31:56] they will have to wait
[31:57] 6 months if they
[31:58] will be refused,
[31:59] to apply
[32:00] again, or not?
[32:01] You could also
[32:02] offer
[32:03] postpone
[32:03] This is what I...
[32:04] I'll give you a hint,
[32:05] but you can also
[32:06] offer
[32:07] postpone the consideration.
[32:08] Yes, that's good. Member
[32:09] Amos' advice, or
[32:10] Spinnibauer, sorry.
[32:12] Uh, yes, mine.
[32:13] the question was that
[32:14] , is it recommended
[32:15] we should postpone this until
[32:16] next meeting
[32:18] , could it be, um,
[32:19] approval after
[32:20] completion? No, we
[32:22] will have to postpone
[32:24] .
[32:25] You cannot approve
[32:27] conditionally.
[32:27] OK.
[32:28] We ask about this.
[32:29] every time something like this happens
[32:30] It happens, doesn't it?
[32:31] Just print it out
[32:32] ...We should have
[32:33] keep that in mind.
[32:34] Just a sign that
[32:35] we can't do this
[32:36] do. Hmm, in this way
[32:41] In that case I will suggest
[32:42] postpone this item
[32:43] until next time
[32:44] planned
[32:45] meeting, the first
[32:46] meeting in October,
[32:47] because I can't
[32:48] support it without
[32:49] performing those, uh,
[32:50] necessary
[32:51] improvements,
[32:52] corrections and
[32:53] inspections.
[32:57] I support.
[33:00] Okay, is there any?
[33:00] discussion about
[33:01] proposals to postpone
[33:03] ? If not, be
[33:05] please guide
[33:06] voting.
[33:07] Lefebvre.
[33:08] By.
[33:08] Esslinger.
[33:09] By.
[33:09] Spanbauer.
[33:10] By.
[33:10] Amos.
[33:11] By.
[33:11] Billo.
[33:12] By.
[33:12] Stevenson.
[33:13] By.
[33:14] Six-zero.
[33:15] Okay, resolution 26439
[33:17] on approval
[33:18] license waivers
[33:20] class B for beer and
[33:22] class C for wine from
[33:24] company 592 Oshkosh LLC, which
[33:26] works under the name 592
[33:27] Korean Barbecue, and delivery
[33:29] Class B licenses for
[33:31] beer and class C on
[33:33] Dumpling company wine
[33:34] House Oshkosh LLC, operating
[33:36] called Dumpling House,
[33:38] at 2010 West 9th
[33:40] Avenue. Needed
[33:41] proposal and its
[33:42] support.
[33:43] I suggest.
[33:44] I support.
[33:46] For the same reason that
[33:47] verification is expected
[33:49] Department
[33:50] health care
[33:51] Winnebago County, I suggest postponing
[33:53] this is a question for
[33:54] next on duty
[33:55] Council meeting.
[33:57] I support.
[33:58] Is there a discussion about
[33:59] proposals to postpone
[34:00] consideration? If not,
[34:01] please pass
[34:02] roll call vote
[34:03] .
[34:04] La Favere.
[34:04] By.
[34:05] Esslinger.
[34:06] By.
[34:06] Span Bauer.
[34:07] By.
[34:07] Amos.
[34:08] By.
[34:08] Buhler.
[34:09] By.
[34:09] Stevenson.
[34:10] By.
[34:10] Six against zero.
[34:11] Okay, next one.
[34:13] resolution 26440 on
[34:14] approval
[34:15] designated area
[34:16] rest on
[34:17] outdoors (
[34:18] DORA) for the Sawdust District. I have
[34:21] several registered
[34:22] people who wish
[34:23] to speak out of this
[34:24] reason. So that no one
[34:25] not to miss,
[34:26] I'll check the list, but
[34:27] The first speaker is Mr.
[34:28] Chris Larson. You know the rules.
[34:30] I will break the rules.
[34:31] I know, and I will.
[34:32] throw things at you.
[34:33] I won't. I will,
[34:34] probably concise. Chris
[34:36] Larson, 502 North Main.
[34:38] Thank you for allowing
[34:39] I have to express my opinion on
[34:40] support for creation
[34:42] DORA in the Sawdust District.
[34:43] I'm here because I tried.
[34:44] remember one thing.
[34:45] I don't know if it was
[34:46] advisor present
[34:47] Esslinger, when was
[34:48] the decision has been made
[34:48] regarding DORA in the center
[34:49] cities. No? Yes?
[34:50] It seems so.
[34:51] you and the mayor
[34:52] Mugrauer were here. I
[34:54] played a big role
[34:55] in promoting this on
[34:56] that time, so it was
[34:57] very close to me and
[34:58] importantly. I was hoping
[34:59] that the mayor will be here
[34:59] tonight, to
[35:01] I could thank him.
[35:02] for the kind words,
[35:02] because he, like himself
[35:03] stated, was very
[35:04] against DORA in the center
[35:05] cities when it
[35:05] the issue was raised
[35:07] last time. It's over.
[35:08] 5 years, and counting
[35:09] he said at the meeting
[35:10] wonderful things about that
[35:11] it was beneficial
[35:12] city ​​center.
[35:14] In fact, there was no problems, and that's it really became
[35:17] asset. Not that you
[35:19] definitely must
[35:20] drinking beer while walking,
[35:21] but this is a thing that is certain
[35:22] in a way that reinforces
[35:23] district status, makes
[35:24] its significant, and precisely
[35:25] so I was very happy
[35:26] help when these
[35:27] people turned to
[35:28] with a little help
[35:29] and advice to direct correctly
[35:31] process for the district
[35:32] Sawdust District. Besides,
[35:34] What happened to it?
[35:35] benefit of the city center,
[35:37] I think it's worth it.
[35:38] note that the process
[35:39] implementation of the DORA zone
[35:40] in the center was successful, and
[35:42] city ​​employees and
[35:43] The council at that time was excellent.
[35:44] coped with
[35:45] developing those
[35:46] resolutions. Our experience
[35:48] taken over in Milwaukee,
[35:49] Green Bay, Sturgeon-
[35:50] Bay twice, Nina and po
[35:52] throughout the state, because we
[35:53] were the first and
[35:54] everything was done qualitatively.
[35:55] Like any good
[35:56] strategy if you
[35:57] are you doing something
[35:58] right, great,
[35:59] when is it possible
[36:00] repeat. And this
[36:00] a great example of that, can be repeated.
[36:04] I think everyone knows that
[36:05] for the last
[36:06] decade city
[36:07] Oshkosh has invested a lot
[36:08] time, effort and money
[36:09] in the Sodast District, developing
[36:12] him and involving
[36:13] there business. That's why
[36:14] I was happy to help.
[36:15] when these people
[36:16] contacted
[36:16] request regarding this
[36:17] parts, because it's nice
[36:18] to see how they
[36:19] working together.
[36:20] It's great to see how it is.
[36:21] being implemented, and
[36:22] to watch
[36:23] successful companies
[36:24] who seek
[36:25] they want more
[36:26] cooperate more
[36:27] . As a business owner in
[36:28] downtown Oshkosh, I'll tell you
[36:29] frankly: this is great,
[36:31] because it helps
[36:32] combine Sodast-
[36:33] District with a center
[36:34] cities. I imagine how
[36:36] people stop at
[36:37] hotels and walk
[36:38] to the Fifth District, because
[36:40] this is a great attraction,
[36:41] or from flights,
[36:42] or sometimes on
[36:43] Water Fest festival. It
[36:44] things to do
[36:45] allow, and the matter
[36:46] not only that it is
[36:48] requires keeping
[36:49] drink in hand, but this
[36:50] really changes the essence,
[36:51] isn't that right? This is an advantage
[36:52] , and it's good that we
[36:53] admitted it. Succinctly
[36:56] saying, I hope,
[36:57] this is enough to
[36:58] explain why I think it's good.
[37:00] idea. I hope you
[37:01] Do you think so too?
[37:02] a good idea.
[37:03] Last time
[37:04] it seemed like that was the case.
[37:05] A few moments,
[37:06] similar to the end
[37:08] process with Downtown DORA, and
[37:09] resolution of this
[37:10] evening: people who are
[37:11] proposed—and this
[37:13] Not me, I'm just helping.
[37:14] They invested a lot in them.
[37:15] time and effort in
[37:16] request for hours
[37:17] work and maps, which
[37:19] they offer. They
[37:20] differ from
[37:21] received by you
[37:22] resolutions, and this
[37:22] okay, because I know,
[37:23] that the workers
[37:24] evaluated the request and
[37:25] offered you that, in their opinion,
[37:26] will work. I hope so.
[37:28] the council will consider
[37:28] initial request
[37:30] regarding these two points
[37:31] . So, let's start with
[37:32] hours of work, I hope some of you anyway
[37:35] got acquainted.
[37:35] The incentive here was that
[37:37] what can be visited
[37:38] mainly measures on
[37:39] arena, because it is powerful
[37:40] the driver of events. If
[37:41] to glance at
[37:42] "Herd" calendar,
[37:43] most events,
[37:44] which they conduct,
[37:45] fall outside the limits
[37:46] proposed in
[37:47] your decision
[37:48] hours. So, they have
[37:49] many games in
[37:50] Tuesday, many in
[37:51] Sunday and many
[37:52] daytime matches in
[37:53] Saturday. None of them
[37:54] falls under the scope of
[37:55] resolutions in its current form.
[37:56] Therefore, I hope that
[37:57] during the discussion
[37:58] you will find
[37:59] a little opportunity
[38:00] make changes and
[38:00] remember what these are about
[38:01] people asked from the very beginning. Yet
[38:03] one thing that
[38:04] changed in the process—
[38:05] This is a map. In the proposal
[38:07] from Sawdust County
[38:09] they provided you, by
[38:10] essentially, the county's TIF zone
[38:11] Sodast. And what
[38:14] contributed to your
[38:15] resolutions, a little
[38:16] differs:
[38:17] only remains
[38:18] South Main, and two
[38:19] adjacent
[38:19] enterprises
[38:20] excluded from the district.
[38:22] This also happened with
[38:23] city ​​center. Therefore,
[38:24] the point was that
[38:25] the incentive was
[38:26] to do it simply BID,
[38:27] but there were a few people
[38:28] , who ended up a little
[38:30] outside the BID. And the board on
[38:31] decided at that time that
[38:32] doesn't want to choose
[38:33] winners and
[38:33] defeated for
[38:34] an arbitrary border,
[38:35] so they allowed
[38:36] these people to enter, because
[38:37] Dora is more than BID.
[38:38] Likewise in this
[38:39] case, Dora would be
[38:40] more than just
[38:41] South Maine, because that's how it is
[38:42] and there is. So, apart from that,
[38:44] I hope you have
[38:44] there will be a great discussion.
[38:46] I am interested to hear.
[38:46] everyone else's performances.
[38:47] Thank you for giving me
[38:48] a little opportunity
[38:49] speak. I got in.
[38:50] 5 minutes? We got it.
[38:51] Perfectly. Thank you.
[38:54] Good. Zachary Clark,
[38:56] next—Andrea
[38:57] Rickenberger.
[39:05] Congratulations. I'm Zach Clark,
[39:07] owner and manager
[39:08] Fifth Ward Brewing Company. We
[39:11] almost 11 years have passed
[39:13] therefore, bought
[39:13] real estate, which
[39:15] just kidding. We
[39:17] wanted to take a risk in
[39:19] downtown Oshkosh,
[39:20] southern part
[39:21] center of Oshkosh, where
[39:22] then the district of Sodast still
[39:23] didn't even exist. I
[39:25] ...Buckstaff was still standing. We
[39:27] had a wonderful vision
[39:29] of what it can do
[39:30] become. The only thing we have
[39:32] my business
[39:33] partnered with
[39:34] the first day—we are
[39:35] owners-
[39:36] leaders. So we
[39:38] there every day, day after day
[39:40] . And we can talk
[39:42] about things, as said
[39:43] Chris, whom I call
[39:44] tools in
[39:45] our arsenal, which
[39:47] help us
[39:48] to achieve success. All
[39:50] small businesses
[39:51] pass through
[39:52] difficulties, ups and downs
[39:54] fall. And if we will be able to work
[39:57] together to get
[39:58] these additional
[39:59] tools in our
[40:00] arsenal, it's just
[40:01] will help us achieve
[40:02] success. So, I think
[40:08] that thanks to
[40:09] involving everyone in
[40:10] We found time for the group,
[40:11] to discuss how
[40:13] we all need to unite
[40:14] and make this map. AND
[40:20] really involve everyone
[40:21] to this matter. WITH
[40:26] In view of this, I
[40:27] noticed that on the map,
[40:28] which we made was
[40:30] several large
[40:31] green areas. Being in
[40:36] this area is long
[40:38] time, we also wanted
[40:39] to help the city and
[40:40] to see the future
[40:41] growth. And this
[40:43] would mean that you
[40:44] discover more
[40:45] enterprises that,
[40:46] in turn,
[40:47] will help you
[40:48] get more
[40:49] income. So that things go well
[40:51] further developed.
[40:53] So we would really like to,
[40:55] so that this initial
[40:56] the map was embodied in
[40:57] life. Besides,
[41:01] the arena is also
[41:02] a huge factor
[41:03] for those hours of work,
[41:04] which we ask for.
[41:09] I remember before COVID
[41:10] business was booming, everything
[41:12] It was great, people.
[41:13] visited these
[41:14] establishments, went to eat.
[41:17] Grainery has always been
[41:17] filled, we always
[41:19] were busy. Came
[41:20] COVID, times are changing.
[41:23] Of course, the industry
[41:24] hospitality now
[41:25] passes through
[41:26] certain changes. I see this.
[41:28] as a person who also
[41:29] travels the state and
[41:30] sells our beer. I
[41:35] visited 400 different
[41:36] bars only this year
[41:38] and I can say that
[41:39] consumer culture
[41:40] a little drink
[41:41] changes, it becomes
[41:42] more responsible
[41:44] . That's why I don't see
[41:48] no problems at all
[41:49] in this regard, especially
[41:50] on our territory,
[41:51] where we try
[41:52] to navigate more
[41:54] for events and family
[41:55] rest. This is it.
[41:56] what we see. So
[41:58] no late nights.
[42:01] We would be very grateful.
[42:03] get those
[42:03] extended hours
[42:04] the works we are talking about
[42:06] asked first.
[42:10] Thank you.
[42:13] Okay, Andrea, continue.
[42:14] Maria.
[42:20] Good evening, members.
[42:21] city ​​council. Me
[42:22] My name is Andrea.
[42:23] Reifenberger, I
[42:24] owner of the Flights club
[42:26] Wine and Cocktail Club, which
[42:27] located behind
[42:28] at South Main-
[42:29] Street, 607, in the district
[42:30] Sodast. I am here.
[42:31] today as the owner
[42:32] business and participant
[42:33] entertaining
[42:34] community of the district
[42:35] Sodast, groups
[42:35] enterprises
[42:36] The southern side, which
[42:37] working together to
[42:38] strengthen and
[42:39] develop this part
[42:40] the city center, which
[42:41] quickly
[42:41] is developing. I want to express my
[42:43] full support
[42:44] creation in the center
[42:45] cities zones for
[42:46] just relax
[42:47] heaven, DORA. Determined
[42:48] the recreation area is
[42:49] not just convenience,
[42:50] this is a tool
[42:51] economic
[42:52] development, which
[42:52] helps to create
[42:53] brighter,
[42:54] hospitable, comfortable
[42:55] for pedestrians and
[42:56] competitive
[42:57] city ​​center. WITH
[42:58] business perspective
[42:59] The advantages are obvious.
[43:00] Magnification
[43:01] pedestrian traffic:
[43:02] DORA encourages people
[43:03] to move freely
[43:04] between shops,
[43:05] restaurants and
[43:06] entertaining
[43:06] institutions, longer
[43:07] stay in the center
[43:08] cities and more
[43:09] spend on the spot.
[43:11] Support for the field
[43:12] hospitality and
[43:13] events. This gives
[43:14] visitors
[43:14] possibility
[43:15] enjoy
[43:16] drinks during live
[43:17] performances, fairs and
[43:18] public gatherings,
[43:20] that strengthens our center
[43:21] cities. Our
[43:22] identity of the center
[43:23] city, sorry.
[43:24] Conformity
[43:25] modern centers
[43:26] bridge. Communities by
[43:27] throughout Wisconsin and
[43:28] Midwest
[43:29] successfully implemented
[43:30] recreation areas with
[43:31] clear protocols
[43:32] safety and
[43:33] responsible
[43:33] management.
[43:34] Southern part
[43:35] main street
[43:36] Oshkosh deserves
[43:37] to be among them
[43:38] . I also want
[43:39] to pay attention to
[43:40] recent changes to
[43:41] proposed map
[43:42] . Update as
[43:43] Zach noted,
[43:43] updated map
[43:44] excludes the quarter where
[43:45] located "Hoogies",
[43:46] quarter, including
[43:48] big, not enough
[43:49] used green
[43:50] space. Sorry. This
[43:52] the territory is one of
[43:53] the most significant
[43:54] opportunities for
[43:55] reconstruction in
[43:56] Sodast district.
[43:57] Excluding her from the zone
[43:58] rest affects
[43:59] not only for the current one
[44:00] business, but also reduces
[44:01] future
[44:02] economic
[44:03] the city's potential. If
[44:04] the developer wanted
[44:05] invest in this
[44:06] quarter, adding
[44:07] retail trade,
[44:08] hotel business,
[44:09] multifunctional
[44:10] space or new
[44:11] anchor object,
[44:12] staying within
[44:13] recreation areas were
[44:14] would be a significant incentive.
[44:15] Excluding her, we
[44:16] unintentionally doing
[44:17] reconstruction less
[44:18] attractive and
[44:18] we limit the potential
[44:20] this quarter for
[44:21] Oshkosh. Our
[44:21] cooperation firmly
[44:22] convinced that
[44:23] original map
[44:24] better supports
[44:25] long-term
[44:26] growth, encourages
[44:27] investments and
[44:27] keeps in touch
[44:28] Sodast district with
[44:29] the rest of the city center.
[44:30] Original card—
[44:31] this is the version that
[44:32] the district prepares the best
[44:33] Sodast and the city center
[44:35] in general to
[44:35] future success. I would also like to ask for advice
[44:38] view hours
[44:39] DORA works that we
[44:40] first
[44:41] proposed. Arena
[44:42] holds events 7
[44:43] days a week, uh
[44:44] concerts, games,
[44:45] exhibitions and
[44:46] community programs,
[44:47] and these measures are not
[44:48] adhere to
[44:49] typical schedule that
[44:50] limits economic
[44:51] visitor impact
[44:52] arenas and reduces
[44:53] stability of experience
[44:55] in the city center. Area
[44:57] Sodast quickly
[44:58] is changing. We invest,
[45:00] cooperate and
[45:01] We are increasing the pace. We just ask that
[45:03] city ​​plan
[45:04] reflected this
[45:05] growth and not
[45:06] restricted him
[45:07] inadvertently. Thank you.
[45:08] for your time, your attention
[45:10] and your constant
[45:11] support local
[45:12] business community
[45:13] Oshkosh.
[45:14] Thank you. Anne Marie.
[45:21] Good evening. I am Maria.
[45:22] Turner. I am a manager with
[45:24] marketing and
[45:25] sales at Oshkosh Arena.
[45:26] Thank you, council members, for
[45:27] opportunity to speak
[45:28] tonight
[45:29] regarding the proposed
[45:30] recreation areas on
[45:31] outdoors
[45:32] for the Sodast district. I
[45:34] here on behalf of "VenueWorks
[45:35] of Oshkosh,
[45:36] managerial
[45:37] arena teams to express our
[45:39] support for the DORA project
[45:40] for the Sodast district in its original form,
[45:43] including how
[45:44] suggested hours
[45:46] open from 11:00 to 22:00, 7
[45:47] days a week, and
[45:48] initially
[45:49] proposed boundaries
[45:50] district. Allow
[45:52] first contact
[45:53] schedule issue
[45:53] work. When our
[45:54] partners with Sawdust District
[45:56] Entertainment Collaborative
[45:57] developed this
[45:58] offer, these hours
[45:59] were not elected
[46:00] arbitrarily. They were elected
[46:01] because they
[46:02] reflect how
[46:03] actually a business,
[46:04] events and visitors
[46:05] use the area
[46:07] Sodast. Although we understand the intention
[46:09] follow the center
[46:11] the city of S'Dora, we
[46:11] respectfully note
[46:13] that we are different. Oshkosh Arena—
[46:15] it is year-round
[46:16] entertaining
[46:17] a place where many
[46:18] events are taking place
[46:19] outside the limits
[46:20] traditional time
[46:21] after 5:00 PM or only at
[46:23] weekend. For example,
[46:24] according to the proposal
[46:26] city ​​services, 12 games
[46:27] "Wisconsin Herd" in
[46:28] next season
[46:30] will fall outside
[46:31] limits permitted in this
[46:32] offers of days and
[46:33] hours. This is half.
[46:35] home games. These
[46:37] games attract
[46:38] thousands of visitors
[46:39] to the area to
[46:40] have dinner,
[46:40] to meet and
[46:41] support local
[46:42] business before and after
[46:43] matches. Actually,
[46:45] Chamber of Commerce
[46:46] Oshkosha is conservative
[46:48] estimates that every game
[46:50] brings 100,000
[46:51] dollars of income
[46:52] Oshkosh, including 21%
[46:53] expenses at local
[46:55] bars and restaurants, 7%
[46:56] —for retail
[46:57] trade and 5%—on
[46:59] hotels and accommodation.
[47:01] Dora Hours Restrictions
[47:02] during the Gerd games
[47:03] limits exactly that
[47:04] economic
[47:05] activity that this
[47:06] the initiative is called
[47:07] encourage. Besides
[47:09] games "Gerd", we hold public
[47:11] measures that
[47:12] start early
[47:13] in the morning and continue
[47:14] throughout the day.
[47:15] Annual events such as
[47:16] like Wisconsin
[47:17] dartball tournament and
[47:18] Wisconsin
[47:19] arm wrestling tournament,
[47:20] by the way, it's both
[47:21] state tournaments, there are
[47:22] events throughout the day.
[47:24] Participants and spectators
[47:25] arrive in the morning and
[47:26] continue
[47:27] enjoy
[47:28] district until the evening. That
[47:30] exactly what can be said
[47:31] about the UWO Winter Classic,
[47:32] which often falls on
[47:34] Sunday and Monday
[47:35] during the holidays
[47:36] vacation. Other events,
[47:38] such as an exhibition
[47:39] comics and toys
[47:40] QuadCon, every year
[47:41] attracts about 1,100
[47:43] people. Winter market
[47:44] Oshkosh farmers
[47:45] visits every week from
[47:47] 800 to 1200 people. And different
[47:49] car shows that we
[47:50] conducted during
[47:51] the last two years,
[47:53] collect about 200
[47:54] people for each show, and
[47:55] also start at
[47:57] 1:00 PM on Saturday. Concerts
[47:59] also represent
[48:00] a unique reality
[48:01] . Concert time
[48:03] is determined
[48:03] touring
[48:04] artists' schedules
[48:05] and schedule
[48:06] promoters. We are not
[48:08] we choose, it falls to
[48:10] this is for Wednesday, Thursday
[48:11] or Sunday. We use
[48:14] opportunities when
[48:15] artists travel
[48:16] through our region.
[48:18] Because of these and other
[48:19] Oshkosh Arena events are not
[48:20] exclusively by the platform
[48:22] for the weekend, as well as not
[48:23] is purely evening
[48:24] institution. Events
[48:25] occur then,
[48:26] when arise
[48:27] opportunities, and mode
[48:28] work must be
[48:29] structured so that
[48:30] to support this
[48:31] reality. Me too
[48:32] I would like to briefly
[48:33] to stop at
[48:34] proposed
[48:35] changes in zone boundaries. We
[48:36] respectfully request
[48:38] Council to include Hogie's Bar
[48:39] and Evil Roy Slades. Hogie's is
[48:41] part of the district
[48:43] Sodast. What else
[48:44] more importantly, MAD was
[48:45] active participant
[48:47] formation and
[48:48] development of SDEC. Next to
[48:51] Hogie's, like many
[48:52] noted, there is a large
[48:53] vacant lot that
[48:54] has a significant
[48:55] potential for
[48:56] future development.
[48:58] Excluding this zone
[48:59] today looks like
[49:00] inconsistent with
[49:01] long-term
[49:02] vision of the future
[49:03] growth and
[49:04] development of the region.
[49:05] Both companies
[49:07] participated in
[49:07] discussions,
[49:08] invested time and
[49:09] supported the idea
[49:10] creation
[49:11] integrated
[49:12] entertainment district
[49:13] . They deserve it.
[49:15] for inclusion. One
[49:17] of the greatest advantages
[49:19] SDEC had a spirit of cooperation.
[49:22] Companies that could
[49:23] easy to work with
[49:24] regardless, instead
[49:26] chose a common
[49:27] work to create
[49:28] something bigger than us
[49:29] themselves. Our vision
[49:31] for DORA—it's not just "
[49:33] let people drink
[49:34] outside". This is "
[49:36] let's use
[49:37] controlled
[49:37] entertainment district
[49:39] in the open air, so that
[49:40] increase flow
[49:40] pedestrians, leading to
[49:42] longer visits
[49:42] customers. Longer
[49:44] customer visits
[49:45] lead to
[49:46] more quantity
[49:47] transactions in the field
[49:47] food, drinks and
[49:49] retail trade.
[49:50] Larger quantity
[49:51] transactions supported
[49:52] stronger business,
[49:53] higher demand for
[49:54] commercial spaces and
[49:55] additional private
[49:56] investments. And over time
[49:58] this can help
[49:59] expansion
[50:00] tax base and
[50:01] bigger
[50:02] economic
[50:02] growth for all
[50:04] city ​​of Oshkosh. Of these
[50:06] reasons we respectfully
[50:07] please advise
[50:08] approve DORA in the Sawdust area with
[50:11] working hours from 11:00
[50:12] until 22:00, 7 days a week, and beyond that
[50:15] include Hogies and Eloise
[50:17] Slate's. Our request regarding
[50:19] DORA reflects how
[50:20] this area works
[50:21] today, at the same time
[50:22] preparing for
[50:23] growth tomorrow. It
[50:26] supports sports
[50:28] events, tournaments,
[50:28] concerts, local
[50:30] business, opportunities
[50:31] for the future
[50:32] development and strengthens
[50:33] entertaining
[50:34] direction for residents
[50:35] and guests of Oshkosh.
[50:38] Thank you for
[50:39] consideration and yours
[50:40] ongoing support
[50:42] Sawdust district in general
[50:43] and Oshkosh Arena
[50:44] in particular.
[50:46] Thank you. Is anyone else?
[50:48] wants to express himself/herself
[50:50] about this? OK
[50:52] . Because those who want
[50:53] no, please enter
[50:53] proposal and
[50:54] to support her so that
[50:54] to take it to
[50:55] discussion.
[50:55] I support.
[50:56] Second.
[50:57] OK. Council member
[50:58] Stevenson, behind him—
[50:59] Councilman Rasslinger.
[51:01] Yes, I support this with
[51:03] from the very beginning. Very
[51:04] glad to see how
[51:05] this group is forming
[51:07] Sawdust district. I think we
[51:09] here sometimes we forget in
[51:10] discussions that for
[51:12] the work of our districts
[51:13] interested parties needed
[51:14] people. I believe that
[51:16] the city can invest
[51:17] as much as you want
[51:18] funds to the district. But
[51:20] if we don't have
[51:20] such active people,
[51:22] how do you do that
[51:22] continue this
[51:23] case, the district suffers
[51:24] failures. And I think that
[51:26] your involvement
[51:27] thus will do
[51:28] Sawdust district successful.
[51:30] So I'm very glad that
[51:31] you are united, DORA I am
[51:32] I support it, but this
[51:34] the organization as a whole,
[51:35] in my opinion, it will be
[51:37] secret
[51:37] ingredient for success
[51:39] Sawdust district. Well, a few
[51:41] questions for staff.
[51:43] I understand what is needed.
[51:44] to coordinate hours with
[51:45] city ​​center. I think
[51:46] this was the reason for that
[51:48] to not do them
[51:49] different, but on the map
[51:50] a little unclear: whether
[51:51] there was a justification
[51:52] why we
[51:53] excluded several of these
[51:54] neighborhoods?
[51:56] So, regarding the exceptions,
[51:57] I spoke to
[51:58] police officer
[51:59] department, and I don't know,
[52:00] Is Dean here too?
[52:01] tonight, but
[52:02] I believe that the reasoning
[52:04] regarding 7th and 8th streets
[52:05] consisted in the fact that this
[52:06] more residential areas.
[52:08] And, let's say, I don't know.
[52:10] regarding what on
[52:11] south of 14th, is that it?
[52:12] simply because we don't
[52:14] saw the needs, is it
[52:15] residential area. Um, I know about the green zone,
[52:19] about which today
[52:21] mentioned in conversation
[52:22] with director Koski. I think she is
[52:25] allocated under
[52:26] residential development
[52:27] mixed type. So
[52:29] again, this is the area
[52:30] 7th and 8th streets on
[52:31] west of South
[52:32] Main Street. I think
[52:34] that this was ruled out,
[52:35] again, because
[52:36] it seemed like this
[52:37] more residential area.
[52:39] And again, the 14th
[52:40] street, I think we
[52:41] stopped there because
[52:42] it encompassed what we considered an arena
[52:45] and adjacent
[52:46] territories.
[52:49] Is that true, Dean? You are not
[52:51] wanted to add anything
[52:52] or...Although you don't mind
[52:54] no need. I just
[52:55] wanted to give you
[52:56] possibility. I thought:
[52:59] or call him,
[53:00] or not. Solve
[53:02] you.
[53:04] I was not there during
[53:05] initial
[53:06] discussion,
[53:07] because I was in
[53:08] vacation, but again
[53:09] looking at the maps,
[53:10] I think that from the point of view of
[53:11] police officer
[53:12] department we can
[53:13] support the map as
[53:15] was proposed.
[53:17] Um, and work with that.
[53:19] And if there are
[53:20] any problems, we will get back to you,
[53:22] to adjust
[53:23] map. But, based on
[53:26] in our experience
[53:27] working with DORA on
[53:28] north side,
[53:29] I think we can do this.
[53:30] to support.
[53:32] OK. And that's nice.
[53:33] hear. Apparently mine...and me
[53:35] thank you for this explanation
[53:37] about how you
[53:38] Did they change the map or something?
[53:39] like this, but I want
[53:40] to make sure that we
[53:42] included Slides and Hogies.
[53:43] They were one of the
[53:44] founders of this
[53:46] organization, and along
[53:47] this section 7th
[53:48] the streets, I think, everything
[53:49] mainly commercial
[53:50] , or, I think,
[53:51] completely commercial.
[53:52] In addition, perhaps we
[53:54] Let's touch a little.
[53:55] residential development here
[53:56] and there. So I won't.
[53:57] make edits now,
[53:58] because I want us to be able to
[54:00] continue the conversation,
[54:01] but I would consider it
[54:02] amendment so that either
[54:03] save the original,
[54:04] or somehow
[54:05] make sure that these
[54:06] two institutions included.
[54:09] Well, besides, do you have any thoughts on
[54:12] work schedule? So,
[54:14] understanding that we
[54:15] wanted to reflect
[54:16] city ​​center and district
[54:17] Sawdust, I'm leaning towards
[54:18] in order to contribute
[54:19] changes to the city center
[54:21] according to them. I would
[54:22] wanted extended
[54:23] work schedule for both
[54:24] cases. I believe that
[54:25] they must match.
[54:27] But I understand the logic.
[54:28] the desire to make them
[54:29] the same. "The Herd"
[54:30] will become huge
[54:31] economic driver
[54:32] for this, and I think,
[54:33] if we exclude
[54:33] The Herd opening hours,
[54:34] it will hurt them. Therefore,
[54:36] Do you have any thoughts?
[54:37] regarding the extended
[54:38] graphics?
[54:40] During the initial
[54:41] conversations about the initial
[54:43] DORA main
[54:43] the problem was
[54:44] farmers market, which
[54:46] was held on Saturday, and
[54:47] we deliberately didn't want to make DORA part of
[54:50] this because
[54:50] diverse people,
[54:52] who roam around
[54:53] farmers market.
[54:56] So, that was it.
[54:57] the main factor
[54:58] this. I really have
[55:00] no answer for
[55:01] you, because I don't
[55:02] I remember why others
[55:03] days were not included
[55:05] before that. But
[55:06] the main problem
[55:07] was exactly the farmer's
[55:08] market. So this is the question
[55:12] sequences,
[55:13] related to
[55:14] provision
[55:15] execution, and we
[55:16] potentially we can
[55:17] create a negative
[55:18] influence, if not
[55:19] let's reflect the hours
[55:20] the north side, where
[55:22] you force the officers
[55:23] to try to understand
[55:24] , what time is it and
[55:25] What day is it today, and
[55:26] it...
[55:29] They just have to be the same.
[55:31] Of course. And right here
[55:32] our home
[55:33] concern
[55:34] would be in time
[55:35] farmers market.
[55:36] Of course. And regarding this,
[55:37] I don't want to change.
[55:39] hours today, but
[55:40] I think we should
[55:41] continue the conversation
[55:42] about the extended
[55:43] schedule for both
[55:44] cases. But, apparently,
[55:46] not now, I think. I pass on the word. These are mine.
[55:49] main concerns
[55:51] at the moment. Member
[55:52] Wrestling tips here.
[55:54] Thank you, deputy.
[55:55] mayor. Well, good job.
[55:56] people who came out and
[55:58] performed. Um,
[55:59] former council member
[56:01] Larson was 100%
[56:02] right. And as the owner
[56:05] business there, he knows,
[56:07] that this program was
[56:08] very successful. Um, me too
[56:11] I think it's great when
[56:12] the government can do
[56:14] something successful, and for that
[56:15] no need to pay.
[56:18] This is good, and we have achieved
[56:19] success. So, you know,
[56:21] it's essentially the same
[56:23] program on another
[56:24] side of the bridge. There is time
[56:26] is different.
[56:28] It is obvious that
[56:29] geographical area
[56:30] a little different. I support that one.
[56:34] time period,
[56:35] which was submitted. IN
[56:38] I have a question for you.
[56:39] city ​​employees. I
[56:44] , of course, like you all
[56:45] you know, I appreciate, respect and
[56:47] I respect your opinions,
[56:48] when certain things arise
[56:49] question, but I'm somewhat
[56:51] upset that how
[56:52] I am not a council member.
[56:53] received a card that
[56:54] people submitted, and what
[56:55] they wanted here
[56:56] see. So I could
[57:01] to make a decision
[57:03] regarding whether it is appropriate
[57:04] or not. I don't.
[57:05] received. And although I don't
[57:08] I agree with this, I think.
[57:10] what you are saying
[57:11] reasonable argument
[57:12] about why this is
[57:13] was done, but in the future if
[57:15] the council will receive
[57:17] all this information, I think it will be good.
[57:19] idea. So, as said
[57:24] Councilman Stevenson,
[57:25] who would like to contribute
[57:26] proposal to mark the time, as it is
[57:33] people did that
[57:34] performed, and the map, I suppose that would be
[57:37] from 7th Street to what?
[57:41] Oregon, I think.
[57:42] probably it would be mine
[57:43] assumption. Can
[57:45] someone give me a map
[57:46] that you
[57:47] Yes, I am.
[57:49] M-hm.
[57:51] Can you bring this up?
[57:52] Scott's screen, or not?
[57:54] Yes, Scott is there.
[57:56] OK. Yes.
[57:58] that doesn't work.
[57:59] Sorry.
[58:00] Oh. You make me so
[58:01] excited. Yes,
[58:04] Can I just
[58:05] Yes, you can.
[58:06] We will pass this on quickly.
[58:08] .
[58:08] Thank you.
[58:08] Take one. It
[58:09] good.
[58:10] Well, yes. And while this
[58:11] happening, Chris, I mean, if we
[58:14] let's take it today
[58:15] in the evening, and I hope we do.
[58:16] let's do it, with
[58:17] extended hours
[58:18] if people from
[58:19] north side
[58:20] will want to expand
[58:21] your schedule or something
[58:22] other, I completely
[58:23] I support the consideration
[58:24] this question. If there is
[58:26] some other measures,
[58:27] which we miss on
[58:28] north side,
[58:30] let's change that. I
[58:32] completely for it. I'm fighting.
[58:35] I bet you're in favor. Therefore,
[58:37] let's see what else is in
[58:38] Was I there? Wait.
[58:40] Give me one.
[58:41] a second. Yes-yes-yes-yes.
[58:46] I think that's almost all.
[58:50] So, again,
[58:51] who wants to give this...
[58:52] so it would be simple
[58:53] implementation of the submitted
[58:55] hours and geographical
[58:56] cards. And I think,
[58:59] Scott is going
[59:01] You filled it out perfectly.
[59:02] time.
[59:02] Yes, I know. I am constantly weaving.
[59:04] nonsense.
[59:05] Oh, great. She
[59:06] upside down
[59:07] another.
[59:07] Here. Don't take yours.
[59:11] salary at the end
[59:12] month, Scott.
[59:16] I don't support this.
[59:20] Okay, so.
[59:22] OK. OK. I see
[59:28] . It... doesn't matter. It
[59:31] normally.
[59:33] Well, but isn't it included?
[59:34] then before that the fifth
[59:35] district or not? Mhm.
[59:37] Really?
[59:38] So, let me give you
[59:39] I'll show you quickly, because
[59:40] So yes, it works here.
[59:42] . I seem to have passed by
[59:43] this side
[59:44] Oh yes.
[59:46] These are all businesses
[59:47] on Main Street, and
[59:48] technically a district
[59:49] The soda is stretching
[59:50] straight up
[59:51] Nebraska. So
[59:51] technically he's going here
[59:53] . But this is where we are
[59:54] only one was included
[59:56] additional quarter and
[59:57] went across the bridge. So
[59:59] technically where
[1:00:00] the city draws a border,
[1:00:02] Sodast district is simple
[1:00:03] extends here.
[1:00:05] And I think on the 7th
[1:00:07] , as it is drawn
[1:00:08] , isn't there only
[1:00:09] one house that would
[1:00:11] Did that bother you?
[1:00:11] I don't even know if there is
[1:00:13] at least one.
[1:00:13] There is one on 7th Street
[1:00:15] house.
[1:00:15] Yes. Okay, questions.
[1:00:18] no more.
[1:00:19] A council member speaks.
[1:00:21] Spendlove.
[1:00:22] Thank you for that. This is also
[1:00:24] was mine, probably
[1:00:25] question. Just like that
[1:00:26] , I think, in
[1:00:27] future
[1:00:28] receive documents
[1:00:29] to check with them
[1:00:30] , it would be good if I
[1:00:32] could understand; I
[1:00:33] tried
[1:00:33] to figure out while
[1:00:34] others said, and
[1:00:35] I apologize for that.
[1:00:37] , which got a little distracted.
[1:00:38] I tried to find
[1:00:39] original
[1:00:40] documentation. Therefore,
[1:00:42] this is useful. I think,
[1:00:46] if the boss or
[1:00:47] there is no one else
[1:00:49] objections, then I don't
[1:00:50] I have problems with the map.
[1:00:51] , proposed on
[1:00:52] based on these
[1:00:53] initial boundaries. I know.
[1:00:59] I am calling you.
[1:01:00] again. Yes. I call
[1:01:02] you again.
[1:01:03] As long as he fits,
[1:01:04] I will say for the council members
[1:01:05] who have access to
[1:01:06] internet and
[1:01:07] the computer that I provided
[1:01:08] you the card you can view
[1:01:10] locally.
[1:01:11] OK. Thank you.
[1:01:12] And again, as
[1:01:13] it was said before,
[1:01:14] regarding the map itself, in
[1:01:16] there are none of us
[1:01:16] remarks. If
[1:01:17] concerns have arisen
[1:01:18] , we would return to
[1:01:19] you and they said that this
[1:01:20] problem for us on
[1:01:21] this map. I would like
[1:01:22] say,
[1:01:23] returning to
[1:01:24] hours, which for
[1:01:25] law enforcement
[1:01:25] organs incredibly
[1:01:27] important
[1:01:27] sequence. When is
[1:01:31] controversial sections,
[1:01:32] this can create
[1:01:33] a situation where we
[1:01:39] stop someone for
[1:01:40] something, and it's really
[1:01:41] legal action, but
[1:01:42] because we are on
[1:01:44] different banks of the river,
[1:01:45] a conflict arises.
[1:01:49] Therefore, for our
[1:01:50] there would be officers
[1:01:51] it is useful to create
[1:01:52] some consistency
[1:01:53] between them, and perhaps
[1:01:55] we can
[1:01:55] to offer something
[1:01:56] other, excluding
[1:01:57] working hours
[1:01:58] farmers market in
[1:01:59] Saturday, which is
[1:02:00] the main factor in
[1:02:01] these hours for us,
[1:02:03] through all the people,
[1:02:04] which are affected
[1:02:05] farmer's market.
[1:02:08] Mhm. Yes, I definitely am.
[1:02:12] I hear and appreciate your
[1:02:13] remarks on
[1:02:14] sequence, boss.
[1:02:16] You know, when I was sitting
[1:02:18] here I listened to people,
[1:02:19] who talked about it,
[1:02:20] I thought we had
[1:02:21] there are different companies
[1:02:23] with different
[1:02:23] circumstances that
[1:02:24] work for something
[1:02:25] a different schedule,
[1:02:26] are holding events in
[1:02:28] different times and in different places
[1:02:29] days that were remembered
[1:02:30] former council member
[1:02:31] Larson and others. So,
[1:02:35] I don't think I have yet.
[1:02:37] I completely understand that.
[1:02:38] to do with hours
[1:02:39] work. Therefore, as well as
[1:02:43] others, I'm ready
[1:02:44] listen to additional
[1:02:46] comments or opinions.
[1:02:49] Councilman Stevenson.
[1:02:52] If any of the members
[1:02:53] advice...Do you have any?
[1:02:55] thoughts? Otherwise I
[1:02:56] I'll accept any of them.
[1:02:58] OK. I will submit now.
[1:03:01] amendment so that...I don't
[1:03:02] I know exactly what I want.
[1:03:03] leave the original
[1:03:05] Sawdust map. This has
[1:03:07] sense?
[1:03:08] Mhm. That's it.
[1:03:09] Include this in
[1:03:10] resolution. So, what
[1:03:13] concerning hours
[1:03:14] work, I am again
[1:03:15] I think we should
[1:03:16] discuss this again.
[1:03:18] I think it's worth it.
[1:03:18] consider both
[1:03:19] options. We should
[1:03:20] to talk about the center too
[1:03:21] cities, and about Sawdust
[1:03:22] simultaneously. AND,
[1:03:23] returning to words
[1:03:24] boss, if we
[1:03:24] Let's approve it today.
[1:03:25] in the evening, then the situation
[1:03:26] in the city center will be
[1:03:27] differ from Sawdust
[1:03:28] . And I think that's exactly what you are.
[1:03:30] trying to say.
[1:03:31] So, in any
[1:03:32] in that case, I will now enter
[1:03:33] amendment to the map.
[1:03:34] OK.
[1:03:35] I support. Interpreter
[1:03:37] this is like a proposal
[1:03:38] to make an amendment.
[1:03:39] Yes, sorry.
[1:03:40] Accept card in such a way as
[1:03:42] applied.
[1:03:43] Yes.
[1:03:43] OK. Are there any
[1:03:45] discussion of this
[1:03:46] amendments? Okay, if
[1:03:48] no, please
[1:03:49] take a roll call
[1:03:50] vote on
[1:03:50] of this amendment.
[1:03:51] Lefebvre.
[1:03:52] By.
[1:03:52] Esslinger.
[1:03:53] By.
[1:03:53] Spielbauer.
[1:03:54] By.
[1:03:55] Amos.
[1:03:55] By.
[1:03:56] Buhler.
[1:03:56] By.
[1:03:57] Stevenson.
[1:03:57] By.
[1:03:58] Six against zero.
[1:03:59] Okay, the offer from
[1:04:00] changes under consideration.
[1:04:04] I want to ask whether
[1:04:06] possible to view
[1:04:07] both options and
[1:04:08] update them, because if
[1:04:10] this will pass, we have
[1:04:11] both will work. AND
[1:04:15] it's not that important...
[1:04:16] that is, it is important, but we can leave
[1:04:18] hours like
[1:04:19] they are there now, and you
[1:04:20] later present
[1:04:22] us suggestions regarding
[1:04:23] clock adjustment
[1:04:24] for both districts. It
[1:04:26] right?
[1:04:28] Of course we can.
[1:04:29] Yes.
[1:04:29] Good. So, this is not
[1:04:31] correction, it's simple
[1:04:33] request. Are there any more?
[1:04:35] discussion on this
[1:04:36] question? So, we
[1:04:38] let's take this with a new
[1:04:39] map and the indicated
[1:04:41] for hours, what will happen
[1:04:42] to meet the schedule
[1:04:43] in the city center. Exactly
[1:04:45] this is the instruction.
[1:04:47] Council member Resler.
[1:04:48] Thank you. Em. I want to,
[1:04:52] so that we can establish those
[1:04:54] the hours they
[1:04:55] proposed. This is what suits them. I am
[1:04:58] I will not buy.
[1:04:59] spare parts for «
[1:05:00] Chevrolet, if I have
[1:05:02] "Ford". Of course? Um,
[1:05:05] they are held
[1:05:06] measures. Good events
[1:05:11] here on South Main-
[1:05:12] street They have another one
[1:05:15] work schedule. It
[1:05:16] a completely different matter,
[1:05:18] if you want. So they have
[1:05:20] there is an organization. They
[1:05:21] gathered together. It
[1:05:22] what suits them.
[1:05:24] Mr. Larson is here. Others from
[1:05:26] northern part
[1:05:28] this is for sure
[1:05:30] understand that we are here
[1:05:32] we do. And if they want such hours...A
[1:05:35] Mr. Larson now
[1:05:36] actively nodding
[1:05:37] head. So let's focus on,
[1:05:40] What are these people doing?
[1:05:41] tonight.
[1:05:43] Let's make sure that this
[1:05:45] It suits them. I am not
[1:05:47] I want to install
[1:05:48] suitable hours
[1:05:49] to someone else, but not
[1:05:51] suit them. So,
[1:05:54] I think, at this time
[1:05:55] I would like to have a moment.
[1:05:56] to make an edit to
[1:05:57] hours given
[1:05:58] organization, became
[1:05:59] in the hours that we use for
[1:06:02] this
[1:06:02] self-service,
[1:06:04] or whatever you call it.
[1:06:08] I support this.
[1:06:10] Good. So, this edit
[1:06:12] under consideration. Are there any more?
[1:06:13] any discussions?
[1:06:16] Councilman LaFeber.
[1:06:18] I think we already
[1:06:19] gave an instruction
[1:06:20] staff
[1:06:20] come back to us with
[1:06:22] proposal regarding
[1:06:23] time coordination.
[1:06:26] Herd season
[1:06:27] only begins
[1:06:28] in November. I have on
[1:06:30] mind how fast you
[1:06:31] can you provide us
[1:06:32] respond?
[1:06:35] I think it would be good.
[1:06:36] to contact some
[1:06:38] enterprises in this
[1:06:39] area, talk to
[1:06:40] improvement center
[1:06:41] business. Council
[1:06:44] recently adopted
[1:06:45] certain regulations
[1:06:46] acts, and I believe that
[1:06:47] we should think
[1:06:49] about their impact on
[1:06:50] extension of hours
[1:06:51] work in the north
[1:06:52] part. So we,
[1:06:55] certainly could
[1:06:56] provide information
[1:06:57] Sometime in October. We can provide
[1:07:02] schedule, but we can also add
[1:07:05] a note with our
[1:07:06] remarks or
[1:07:07] considerations that
[1:07:08] should be taken into account.
[1:07:13] Just, you know, I think we should
[1:07:15] to approach carefully
[1:07:17] to expansion,
[1:07:17] considering our
[1:07:18] experience with others
[1:07:19] situations in others
[1:07:21] districts.
[1:07:24] Perfectly.
[1:07:25] So, October.
[1:07:26] Good.
[1:07:27] Probably on the second
[1:07:28] meeting.
[1:07:29] Yes, I think so.
[1:07:30] Personally, I won't.
[1:07:31] to support this
[1:07:32] editing. It's not that I don't
[1:07:35] supported this
[1:07:36] initiative, not
[1:07:37] take it that way. Ahem,
[1:07:42] I really like it.
[1:07:43] like this one
[1:07:44] project, but I agree with
[1:07:45] city ​​manager:
[1:07:47] we should be careful
[1:07:48] to fit the schedule
[1:07:49] work, and I know that
[1:07:50] in many ways it is
[1:07:51] related to the season, and
[1:07:52] the first game will be at home
[1:07:54] only in November.
[1:07:59] So, I think that in
[1:08:00] We have a little time to
[1:08:01] work out the details
[1:08:03] regarding working hours,
[1:08:04] simultaneously
[1:08:05] having provided
[1:08:06] consistency between
[1:08:07] both DORA. Therefore I do not
[1:08:10] I will support this.
[1:08:12] correction now.
[1:08:16] Councilman Rimer,
[1:08:18] Um, I think we should
[1:08:20] move on with those
[1:08:21] hours that were
[1:08:22] presented
[1:08:23] today for
[1:08:23] south side, and
[1:08:25] in the future
[1:08:25] to hold another one
[1:08:26] a conversation about hours
[1:08:27] for the northern
[1:08:28] sides. And I think,
[1:08:32] what would it be for me
[1:08:33] the best way
[1:08:34] today. We provide
[1:08:36] business owners,
[1:08:37] what they want—that
[1:08:38] who is in the north
[1:08:39] side, and then
[1:08:40] we will be able
[1:08:41] analyze whether there is
[1:08:42] this is the best step
[1:08:43] for her. I just wanted to share yours
[1:08:47] thoughts on this
[1:08:48] reason.
[1:08:48] Well, I'll share.
[1:08:50] their own. I think with this
[1:08:52] correction now
[1:08:53] there is a risk: while
[1:08:54] you are walking across the bridge,
[1:08:56] your actions can become
[1:08:57] from the legal ones
[1:08:58] illegal because
[1:08:59] difference in graphs. AND
[1:09:04] I believe that
[1:09:05] provide
[1:09:06] doing this is not
[1:09:07] very responsibly.
[1:09:10] Educational work
[1:09:11] regarding this also there is no
[1:09:12] responsible. Me
[1:09:13] it would be difficult to explain
[1:09:14] people: "Okay, here you are
[1:09:15] can you do this in
[1:09:16] Tuesday, but here—no,
[1:09:18] "Although here it is possible."
[1:09:20] Because now we are talking
[1:09:21] It's about the amendment.
[1:09:25] I will just say that I support the consideration
[1:09:27] graphics for everything
[1:09:28] district as the only DORA-
[1:09:30] district, not several
[1:09:31] individual. And I bow.
[1:09:35] so that the graphs
[1:09:36] always were
[1:09:37] the same. Therefore I will vote against
[1:09:40] this amendment now,
[1:09:41] understanding that we
[1:09:42] let's get back to this
[1:09:44] question to ask
[1:09:45] the project is holistic. After all
[1:09:47] the idea of ​​"bridge"
[1:09:48] Schrödinger's "where what
[1:09:50] you do, it becomes
[1:09:50] illegal on
[1:09:51] at a certain step or in
[1:09:53] a certain point, it is
[1:09:54] absurdity. And I don't even
[1:09:56] I understand how it is.
[1:09:57] effectively communicate to
[1:09:58] people, not to mention
[1:09:59] about compliance
[1:10:00] rules. Does anyone else want
[1:10:02] express? OK,
[1:10:05] then please
[1:10:06] spend
[1:10:06] voting for
[1:10:07] amendment about
[1:10:08] schedule approval
[1:10:09] as it was
[1:10:10] presented.
[1:10:10] Laffey-Burke
[1:10:12] No.
[1:10:13] Esslinger
[1:10:14] By.
[1:10:15] Spanbauer
[1:10:16] No.
[1:10:18] Amos
[1:10:19] By.
[1:10:20] Buhler
[1:10:21] No.
[1:10:21] Stevenson
[1:10:22] By.
[1:10:24] 3-3, not accepted.
[1:10:25] So, it doesn't work.
[1:10:27] But you are completely
[1:10:28] understood the instructions
[1:10:30] about what we are looking for in October.
[1:10:32] Perfectly. Okay, now in
[1:10:34] us again
[1:10:35] discussion
[1:10:36] resolution with one
[1:10:37] amendment. Are there any
[1:10:39] discussion? OK.
[1:10:44] Please pass.
[1:10:45] roll call.
[1:10:46] Lefebvre.
[1:10:46] By.
[1:10:47] Esslinger.
[1:10:47] OK.
[1:10:48] Spanbauer.
[1:10:49] By.
[1:10:49] Amos.
[1:10:50] By.
[1:10:50] Buhler.
[1:10:51] By.
[1:10:51] Stevenson.
[1:10:52] By.
[1:10:52] Sixkiller.
[1:10:53] OK. We are moving
[1:10:56] for discussion and
[1:10:57] instructions to the city
[1:10:58] to the manager. First
[1:11:00] item—updated
[1:11:01] information regarding
[1:11:02] residents' meetings
[1:11:03] Cope Avenue. I see,
[1:11:05] James is already getting ready.
[1:11:06] to come up. Thank you,
[1:11:27] Principal Abby.
[1:11:29] Please.
[1:11:29] Good evening. Ahem. As
[1:11:34] this usually happens,
[1:11:35] a few months ago
[1:11:36] we have contacted you
[1:11:38] according to the instructions regarding
[1:11:39] how to deal with Cope-
[1:11:40] avenue. Instruction
[1:11:43] consisted in the fact that
[1:11:44] to hold a meeting with
[1:11:45] residents who
[1:11:46] live along the Cope-
[1:11:47] avenue, and get
[1:11:48] additional reviews
[1:11:49] from them. I would like to
[1:11:50] thank
[1:11:50] to the deputy mayor for that he was able to
[1:11:52] attend this meeting.
[1:11:53] I think you don't
[1:11:54] could be
[1:11:54] present at
[1:11:55] debatable
[1:11:55] council meeting. So
[1:11:56] Thank you for coming.
[1:11:58] this meeting. Um, that one
[1:11:59] The evening was very
[1:12:00] low turnout. When we
[1:12:02] were preparing to start
[1:12:04] , only one came
[1:12:05] inhabitant. He
[1:12:06] wrote feverishly
[1:12:07] message in
[1:12:08] phone, and then
[1:12:09] two more people came up
[1:12:10] others. So, on
[1:12:12] the meeting was
[1:12:13] three people are present
[1:12:14] residents. During
[1:12:19] they are all discussions
[1:12:20] agreed that although
[1:12:21] they want something
[1:12:23] was done, they
[1:12:24] don't want to pay
[1:12:25] special contributions for
[1:12:26] asphalt or concrete.
[1:12:31] Especially considering the
[1:12:32] that except for
[1:12:33] one current one
[1:12:35] owner, this is the street with
[1:12:36] short-term
[1:12:37] possession. Majority
[1:12:40] owners along
[1:12:41] this road
[1:12:42] have their own
[1:12:43] objects only
[1:12:44] several years, and they,
[1:12:45] as a rule,
[1:12:46] change every
[1:12:47] several years. So
[1:12:51] because of relatively
[1:12:51] short term
[1:12:52] possession of many of
[1:12:54] these objects,
[1:12:54] the owners just don't
[1:12:56] saw advantages in
[1:12:57] attempts to find out,
[1:12:58] how to pay these
[1:12:59] special contributions
[1:13:00] during extended
[1:13:01] terms that we offer, because
[1:13:03] most of them
[1:13:04] will move earlier than
[1:13:05] these terms
[1:13:06] will end. I
[1:13:10] turned to one of the
[1:13:11] residents, which was
[1:13:12] there that evening. He
[1:13:14] was of a kind
[1:13:15] initiator, so that
[1:13:16] to find out whether
[1:13:16] they received
[1:13:17] additional information
[1:13:19] from conversations with the rest
[1:13:20] owners. Answers
[1:13:22] I don't like him either.
[1:13:23] received. So, on this
[1:13:25] moment information,
[1:13:26] which we received from
[1:13:27] owners
[1:13:28] real estate, consists of
[1:13:29] in that they preferred
[1:13:30] b, so that we don't put no
[1:13:32] asphalt, not concrete, but
[1:13:33] allowed them to continue
[1:13:34] to try to give
[1:13:35] gravel board
[1:13:36] alone.
[1:13:39] This is the message.
[1:13:41] I received from them,
[1:13:42] when was there There is more
[1:13:45] any questions about
[1:13:46] this?
[1:13:47] No.
[1:13:47] Councilman Spenard?
[1:13:49] So, what does this mean?
[1:13:51] This means that Cope-
[1:13:52] the avenue remains
[1:13:53] private property,
[1:13:54] remains
[1:13:55] gravel, and they
[1:13:56] are responsible for themselves
[1:13:57] repair your
[1:13:58] gravel driveway,
[1:13:59] probably twice a
[1:14:00] year. Your gravel
[1:14:02] roads. No matter how they
[1:14:04] decided to do it.
[1:14:05] Would that mean
[1:14:06] Yes, and I know they are
[1:14:08] tried to reach
[1:14:09] agreements between themselves regarding
[1:14:10] you know how it is
[1:14:11] make. I know that
[1:14:13] were certain
[1:14:14] discussion. They
[1:14:16] tried
[1:14:17] convince everyone
[1:14:18] to throw money away,
[1:14:19] so that the person who
[1:14:20] has more
[1:14:21] part of the road,
[1:14:22] ordered delivery
[1:14:23] gravel, and then they
[1:14:24] together we would level
[1:14:25] its. So they
[1:14:28] are working to reach some agreement
[1:14:30] among themselves. You know, this,
[1:14:31] definitely a challenge,
[1:14:33] because it all depends
[1:14:34] from whether
[1:14:34] everyone will agree on
[1:14:36] something that costs money.
[1:14:38] Can someone help?
[1:14:39] I remember how it is.
[1:14:41] the question was
[1:14:41] taken to our
[1:14:42] consideration, and, apparently, as
[1:14:44] we returned to
[1:14:47] this decision?
[1:14:50] This question arises
[1:14:51] approximately every
[1:14:52] several years.
[1:14:53] Good.
[1:14:54] During the time I've been on this
[1:14:55] position. And approximately
[1:14:57] so often all this
[1:14:58] repeated. Two
[1:15:01] years ago Postal
[1:15:02] US service
[1:15:03] informed the residents
[1:15:04] : "We are no longer
[1:15:05] we deliver your
[1:15:06] mail through the state
[1:15:07] streets. This lasted
[1:15:10] a few weeks, and this
[1:15:11] was in August, during
[1:15:13] Labor Day weekend
[1:15:14] that year. They all
[1:15:16] gathered, bought
[1:15:17] some gravel, and one
[1:15:18] of the residents had access
[1:15:20] to the mini-
[1:15:20] forklift, they
[1:15:21] leveled it and
[1:15:22] made the road a little
[1:15:24] more suitable for
[1:15:25] passage. And this
[1:15:26] lasted two
[1:15:27] years, but, of course,
[1:15:28] it was probably worth it
[1:15:29] do it earlier. Therefore,
[1:15:32] this is what happens
[1:15:33] quite regularly.
[1:15:35] The road condition is getting
[1:15:36] pretty bad.
[1:15:37] A person who owns
[1:15:38] for the most part
[1:15:39] property, doesn't care
[1:15:40] about her, and others
[1:15:40] homeowners
[1:15:41] are contacting us with
[1:15:42] question: "What are you
[1:15:43] Can you do it? AND
[1:15:45] this is how we are
[1:15:45] returned to that,
[1:15:47] Where did we start yesterday?
[1:15:48] These owners
[1:15:48] real estate started
[1:15:49] contact us,
[1:15:50] employees, and, I think they are too
[1:15:52] contacted everyone
[1:15:53] you as members
[1:15:54] council. And for
[1:15:54] the results of our
[1:15:55] meetings with
[1:15:56] residents of the district
[1:15:57] they returned to
[1:15:57] us with the answer: "
[1:15:58] "Thanks, but no." We and
[1:15:59] in the future
[1:16:00] we will solve this
[1:16:01] alone.
[1:16:03] Councilman Stevenson.
[1:16:04] Uh, and I just...
[1:16:05] maybe we can
[1:16:06] said it out loud. THERE ARE-
[1:16:07] Well, when we are paving a new one
[1:16:09] road, we always
[1:16:09] exhibit
[1:16:10] special tax
[1:16:11] homeowners, right?
[1:16:12] Yes? This is our usual
[1:16:13] practice.
[1:16:14] Usually most
[1:16:15] new roads
[1:16:16] are built as part of
[1:16:17] buildings, and
[1:16:18] the developer pays
[1:16:19] for them. Uh, but yes,
[1:16:21] when was
[1:16:21] replacement introduced
[1:16:22] special
[1:16:23] taxation, council
[1:16:24] clearly stated that this
[1:16:25] concerns
[1:16:26] reconstruction, not
[1:16:27] new streets.
[1:16:28] Of course. And I, I, I
[1:16:29] just wanted to do this
[1:16:30] to emphasize, because I think,
[1:16:31] that the owners of this
[1:16:32] real estate is good
[1:16:33] They know about it. But, uh
[1:16:34] , we treat them
[1:16:35] no different than any other
[1:16:36] -any other part
[1:16:37] cities in a similar
[1:16:38] situations when we
[1:16:39] please pay them
[1:16:40] for the road when she
[1:16:41] being laid for the first time
[1:16:43] . Uh, I think
[1:16:43] first arose
[1:16:44] small
[1:16:45] misunderstanding that,
[1:16:46] again, Oshkosh
[1:16:47] pays "wheeled"
[1:16:48] tax", but
[1:16:48] mostly this one
[1:16:49] the tax goes to repairs
[1:16:51] and maintaining our
[1:16:52] streets.
[1:16:52] Yes, he is going to
[1:16:53] help
[1:16:54] to compensate for expenses
[1:16:55] for reconstruction.
[1:16:56] Yes. Right.
[1:16:58] Are there any more?
[1:16:59] questions, comments?
[1:17:03] OK. Thank you for this.
[1:17:04] renewal. I assume that you
[1:17:06] will also take care of
[1:17:07] the following question:
[1:17:07] continuation
[1:17:08] CIP seminar from 31
[1:17:09] August regarding
[1:17:09] reimbursement
[1:17:10] capital expenditures
[1:17:10] for the construction of new
[1:17:11] communications.
[1:17:12] Yes, sir, I will.
[1:17:14] It seems that before this
[1:17:15] point of order
[1:17:16] daily copy added
[1:17:17] presentation that Mr.
[1:17:19] Cameron presented
[1:17:20] at the seminar on August 31.
[1:17:23] I don't know for sure whether
[1:17:24] a summary was added
[1:17:25] our discussion of that
[1:17:27] evenings, where they are described
[1:17:28] all these options. If
[1:17:31] no, I have a few
[1:17:32] copies that I can
[1:17:33] distribute to everyone. I am alone.
[1:17:36] I'll keep it to myself.
[1:17:38] Thank you, Ben. Uh, but,
[1:17:42] as we already said in
[1:17:43] past, our
[1:17:44] practice usually
[1:17:45] like this: after the seminar,
[1:17:46] where we discuss
[1:17:47] various questions, we want to return
[1:17:49] approximately in
[1:17:50] a month to ask
[1:17:52] you to provide us
[1:17:52] instructions, do you want
[1:17:54] you, so that we can spend
[1:17:55] additional study. IN
[1:17:57] this presentation we
[1:17:58] talked about
[1:17:59] use of fees
[1:18:00] for connection to
[1:18:01] sewage,
[1:18:02] because the fees for
[1:18:02] connection to
[1:18:03] water supply were
[1:18:04] prohibited by the rules
[1:18:06] commissions from
[1:18:06] utilities,
[1:18:07] or about the possibility
[1:18:08] considering the option of
[1:18:10] influence fees. IN such a case that
[1:18:13] really determine
[1:18:14] the amount of these costs,
[1:18:15] we would need
[1:18:16] to conduct research
[1:18:18] regarding influence peddling,
[1:18:19] to understand what
[1:18:20] will be their sum. And first
[1:18:22] than we will spend
[1:18:23] a lot of time and effort
[1:18:24] for this, I wanted
[1:18:25] to find out if you
[1:18:26] interested in
[1:18:27] so that we can do it.
[1:18:31] I am opening
[1:18:32] discussion for any
[1:18:33] What are your questions?
[1:18:34] Councilman Stevenson.
[1:18:36] Are these scenarios
[1:18:37] options "all or"
[1:18:39] nothing"? So, if we will introduce a fee for
[1:18:41] influence, can we
[1:18:42] to make him
[1:18:43] compensated
[1:18:44] special
[1:18:45] accrual, i.e.
[1:18:46] use a hybrid
[1:18:47] both options, or
[1:18:48] there just has to be something
[1:18:49] one?
[1:18:52] As far as I remember
[1:18:54] statute, and I don't know if
[1:18:55] Amy remembers this
[1:18:56] immediately, but there was
[1:18:57] it is said that any
[1:18:58] funds received through
[1:18:59] special
[1:19:00] accruals, have
[1:19:01] reduce the amount,
[1:19:02] defined in
[1:19:03] research for
[1:19:04] influence fees. Therefore,
[1:19:08] this is not an "all" option
[1:19:09] or nothing." I think I have to say that there is
[1:19:12] a certain possibility
[1:19:14] combine both
[1:19:15] options. And I think,
[1:19:19] which is one of the reasons why
[1:19:20] this is relevant, it is
[1:19:22] in that the fees for
[1:19:23] influence usually
[1:19:24] only apply to
[1:19:25] new development, and this
[1:19:26] one of the topics we
[1:19:27] Amy in detail
[1:19:28] discussed: whether
[1:19:29] will consider the statute
[1:19:30] existing facilities on
[1:19:31] Clearwater Road new
[1:19:33] building or already
[1:19:34] existing? Amy,
[1:19:36] Correct me if I am.
[1:19:37] I'm wrong, but,
[1:19:38] It seems we have arrived.
[1:19:39] consent, which according to the statute
[1:19:40] this will be considered
[1:19:41] existing building.
[1:19:43] So, you probably
[1:19:44] worth considering
[1:19:45] option with
[1:19:45] special
[1:19:46] accrual for these
[1:19:47] objects and collection
[1:19:48] for the influence on others.
[1:19:49] Therefore, I believe that this
[1:19:50] allows a certain
[1:19:51] to combine to some extent
[1:19:52] approaches.
[1:19:53] Of course. I have
[1:19:55] no answer for
[1:19:56] you today, but I
[1:19:57] interested in
[1:19:58] continuing to study
[1:19:59] influence fees.
[1:20:01] Connection fees,
[1:20:03] especially considering the
[1:20:04] what we cannot do
[1:20:05] apply them to
[1:20:06] water, I don't care much
[1:20:07] interested, but I would
[1:20:08] wanted to see how
[1:20:09] what will the budget look like in case of introduction
[1:20:12] influence fee. I know
[1:20:15] , we also a little
[1:20:16] talked about what it was
[1:20:17] a little more risky with
[1:20:19] financial side. We
[1:20:20] also to some extent
[1:20:21] we count on
[1:20:21] growth, and if
[1:20:22] there will be no growth, it
[1:20:23] can hit
[1:20:24] our budget. It
[1:20:25] correct statement
[1:20:26] ?
[1:20:26] You are correct.
[1:20:27] remember. There is
[1:20:29] slightly higher risk
[1:20:30] that you can't
[1:20:32] return all
[1:20:32] costs. You know, from
[1:20:35] special
[1:20:35] accruals this
[1:20:36] becomes a pledge for
[1:20:37] property. So in a certain
[1:20:39] the moment you reach
[1:20:40] 100% refund.
[1:20:42] Using
[1:20:43] target fees, you,
[1:20:44] obviously you can't
[1:20:46] exceed 100%, but there is
[1:20:47] the probability that you will get a little less.
[1:20:50] You know, if
[1:20:51] project development,
[1:20:52] let's say, during
[1:20:53] research you
[1:20:54] expect 100 plots, and
[1:20:56] the developer implements
[1:20:57] only 95.
[1:20:57] Of course.
[1:20:58] So you never
[1:20:59] exceed the amount, but
[1:21:00] with a target fee is
[1:21:01] much larger
[1:21:02] probability of getting
[1:21:03] Less.
[1:21:03] OK. So yes, I
[1:21:05] interested in
[1:21:06] to investigate this. IN
[1:21:07] I have doubts, but I think we should
[1:21:09] deeper into it
[1:21:10] to dive. Anyone else?
[1:21:15] I will tell you. I want
[1:21:17] to share what I am very nervous because
[1:21:19] transition to 100% model
[1:21:20] earmarked funds. So,
[1:21:25] as the council member said
[1:21:27] Stevenson, although I don't
[1:21:28] I consider special
[1:21:29] accrual
[1:21:30] appropriate for
[1:21:31] road reconstruction
[1:21:32] and sidewalks, I think,
[1:21:34] that they are more appropriate
[1:21:35] in a situation like
[1:21:36] annexation, and I believe
[1:21:37] that this is the only way
[1:21:39] to ensure 100%
[1:21:40] reimbursement of expenses
[1:21:41] , although I know that it is
[1:21:42] burdensome for
[1:21:43] owners
[1:21:44] real estate. I am fine.
[1:21:49] I realize this, and that's it.
[1:21:50] so we started this
[1:21:52] discussion. I don't think so.
[1:21:55] that any other
[1:21:56] there are options
[1:21:57] acceptable, because
[1:21:58] and Councilman Stevenson
[1:21:59] , I am interested
[1:22:00] to see what is possible
[1:22:01] to do with hybrid
[1:22:02] target model
[1:22:03] collection and
[1:22:04] special
[1:22:05] accrual, but I think it's full.
[1:22:07] refusal of
[1:22:07] special
[1:22:08] accrual leaves
[1:22:09] us potentially
[1:22:10] vulnerable to
[1:22:11] budget deficit.
[1:22:17] Anyone else? OK. You
[1:22:21] free, I think.
[1:22:22] I understand.
[1:22:24] your task. Very
[1:22:25] Thank you.
[1:22:28] Next point—
[1:22:29] future questions
[1:22:30] agenda,
[1:22:31] meetings and seminars.
[1:22:33] I will not read.
[1:22:34] You have all this. I suppose,
[1:22:36] that you can read and
[1:22:37] put this in your
[1:22:38] calendar, but I will note
[1:22:39] that on Tuesday, the 13th
[1:22:40] October, we will have
[1:22:41] closed session
[1:22:42] for conducting
[1:22:43] work review
[1:22:43] mayor for
[1:22:44] third quarter. So,
[1:22:46] Please,
[1:22:46] consider the question,
[1:22:48] which ones would you like
[1:22:48] to discuss. If you
[1:22:50] need to review
[1:22:51] its goals or will arise
[1:22:52] question, please
[1:22:54] , please contact
[1:22:55] directly to
[1:22:56] me, and I can
[1:22:57] share feedback
[1:22:58] or provide access to
[1:22:59] goals that we will
[1:23:00] discuss. Are there any more?
[1:23:03] some topics about
[1:23:04] questions, meetings or
[1:23:05] seminars that someone
[1:23:07] Want to discuss? If
[1:23:09] no, let's move on to
[1:23:10] announcements and statements
[1:23:11] members of the council, if
[1:23:12] There are some. Moving on to
[1:23:16] announcements and statements
[1:23:17] city ​​manager.
[1:23:19] I have nothing.
[1:23:21] special, besides
[1:23:22] what I would like
[1:23:24] to celebrate Oshkosh Bolt Fest,
[1:23:26] which will take place on the 24th
[1:23:28] September at the museum from 3:30 p.m.
[1:23:29] until 7:30 p.m.
[1:23:32] Fantastically.
[1:23:33] German folk
[1:23:34] festivities. Good.
[1:23:36] So take it with you.
[1:23:38] lederhosen and mugs.
[1:23:40] Yes. OK. If
[1:23:43] there is nothing more,
[1:23:44] then I know that the member
[1:23:45] Council Stevenson
[1:23:45] is going to contribute
[1:23:46] proposal about
[1:23:47] transition to closed
[1:23:48] meeting, but before
[1:23:49] this, does anyone have...Oh,
[1:23:50] I think, first of all, this
[1:23:52] and then I ask if
[1:23:53] Does anyone have a question?
[1:23:54] regarding this in
[1:23:54] open format.
[1:23:56] Is that right, Amy?
[1:23:57] Excuse me, what?
[1:23:58] So, should I ask,
[1:23:59] Does anyone have one?
[1:24:00] question before,
[1:24:01] how do we enter
[1:24:01] offer, or already
[1:24:02] after? To go
[1:24:04] We are not
[1:24:04] We will return.
[1:24:05] Right. No,
[1:24:07] questions about
[1:24:08] point of order
[1:24:09] daytime and
[1:24:09] Yes, and besides
[1:24:10] provided for reference
[1:24:11] materials regarding
[1:24:12] closed question
[1:24:13] meeting. If someone
[1:24:14] wants to express himself/herself
[1:24:15] on this occasion, they
[1:24:16] can do this
[1:24:16] now. We are not
[1:24:17] we will return to
[1:24:18] open meeting
[1:24:18] .
[1:24:19] Perfectly. OK. Member
[1:24:20] Council Stevenson.
[1:24:22] I am making a suggestion.
[1:24:23] go to closed
[1:24:25] meeting accordingly
[1:24:26] to the Statute
[1:24:26] Wisconsin 19.85 (1)(e),
[1:24:28] because the reasoning
[1:24:29] competitive
[1:24:30] trade requires
[1:24:31] closed session
[1:24:32] for discussion
[1:24:33] strategic
[1:24:34] parameters and conditions
[1:24:35] agreements related to
[1:24:36] potential
[1:24:37] reconstruction and/
[1:24:38] or by acquisition
[1:24:39] real estate for
[1:24:40] Address: 114 High Avenue,
[1:24:41] in the city of Oshkosh,
[1:24:42] known as the studio
[1:24:43] Thompson, as well as
[1:24:44] potential sale
[1:24:45] , rent or
[1:24:46] reconstruction of the "Grand
[1:24:47] ".
[1:24:49] I support.
[1:24:50] Thank you. Only one
[1:24:51] short question. I
[1:24:52] I'll leave early today,
[1:24:53] because I can't take it
[1:24:54] participation in this
[1:24:55] discussion,
[1:24:56] because it
[1:24:56] concerns me
[1:24:57] employment. Or
[1:24:58] are there any more
[1:24:59] discussion before
[1:24:59] the way we spend
[1:25:00] roll call? If not,
[1:25:01] please pass
[1:25:02] roll call before
[1:25:03] by moving to
[1:25:03] closed session.
[1:25:04] Effinger.
[1:25:05] By.
[1:25:05] Auslinger.
[1:25:06] By.
[1:25:06] Spanbauer.
[1:25:07] By.
[1:25:08] Amos.
[1:25:08] By.
[1:25:09] Yolo.
[1:25:09] Present.
[1:25:10] And Stevenson.
[1:25:11] By.
[1:25:11] Five votes.
[1:25:12] And I need it.
[1:25:13] proposal about
[1:25:13] closing of the meeting.
[1:25:14] The proposal is accepted.
[1:25:15] I support.
[1:25:16] Does everyone approve?
[1:25:17] Yes.
[1:25:18] By.
[1:25:18] Who is against? OK.
[1:25:21] Thank you to everyone and
[1:25:22] Good night.