1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,964 Heat 2 00:00:01,964 --> 00:00:10,790 >> [music] 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,755 » up 4 00:00:13,755 --> 00:00:21,269 [music] 5 00:00:21,279 --> 00:00:22,925 here. 6 00:00:22,925 --> 00:00:28,155 [music] 7 00:00:28,165 --> 00:00:36,150 » [music] 8 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:48,460 » Heat. Heat. [music] 9 00:00:48,470 --> 00:01:09,910 » [music] 10 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,600 » Hi and welcome to the diversity, [music] 11 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,360 equity, and inclusion committee meeting 12 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,240 for September 28th, 2026. Can we call 13 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,280 the roll please? 14 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,159 >> Cramp 15 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:18,960 >> here. 16 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:21,600 >> Peterson 17 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,159 um 18 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:24,400 >> Aeros 19 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,360 here. 20 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,400 >> I forgot to ask you. Um Miller Lever 21 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,200 Tolman 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,479 >> here. 23 00:01:32,479 --> 00:01:33,439 >> Uh Deng 24 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:34,159 >> here. 25 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:35,680 >> Okay, we have a quorum. 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,840 >> Thank you. And now Andy, can you please 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,520 read the land acknowledgements? 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,079 >> Yes. We are gathered here on the lands 29 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:43,439 that were originally home to the 30 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:45,920 Monomony and Ho Chunk nations. We honor 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,759 the Monomony and Ho Chunk communities 32 00:01:47,759 --> 00:01:49,520 and are grateful for their stewardship 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,759 of the land and waters. We acknowledge 34 00:01:51,759 --> 00:01:54,079 these ancestral grounds as sacred and 35 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:56,159 remember the complex history of settler 36 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:58,560 colonialism on these lands and the 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,360 effects that persist today. We commit to 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,960 a restorative and healing relationship 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,280 of the original inhabitants and our 40 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,880 community. 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:07,119 Thank 42 00:02:07,119 --> 00:02:08,879 >> you. And now I can you read the mission 43 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:10,479 statement? Yeah. 44 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:12,160 The mission of the diversity, equity, 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,000 and inclusion committee is to create a 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,080 more welcoming, connected, and equitable 47 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,920 Oshkosh by consciously including the 48 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:19,440 richness and complexities of 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,520 marginalized voices in its planning and 50 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,640 function. Thank you. And now we have to 51 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:28,000 welcome a new committee member. 52 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,160 So this is Abby. And would you like to 53 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,080 say something about yourself or 54 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,920 >> We'll all introduce ourselves as well. 55 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:36,239 Oh, that's sounds good. 56 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:40,160 >> I'm Abby Amacher. Um, happy to be here. 57 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,400 Uh, and I'm looking forward to it. So, I 58 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,440 don't know if you all know anything 59 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,519 about me, but 60 00:02:45,519 --> 00:02:47,840 yeah, whatever you want to. Sure. Uh, 61 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,480 former social worker. Um, I currently 62 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,239 have a small private practice um, 63 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:53,680 working with kids with some behavioral 64 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,560 challenges and I've been an Oshkosh 65 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,200 resident for almost 20 years. That's 66 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,680 awesome. Um, I'm Amanda Cramp. I'm the 67 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,400 chair. I've lived in Oshkosh for almost 68 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,599 9 years now. Um, I do all kinds of stuff 69 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:09,120 around town. Do a lot of volunteering 70 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,120 with the school district. Um, a lot of 71 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,319 food justice stuff. I've been on this 72 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:16,400 committee for almost three two and a 73 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,000 half years or so. Um, and I just like I 74 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,360 love this city and I just want it to be 75 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,640 as good as I know it can be. 76 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:26,959 All right. Uh, my name is Ayak Deng and 77 00:03:26,959 --> 00:03:29,280 I work for the Ashkashi School District. 78 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,959 Um, I'm new as well. Um, yeah, I'm 79 00:03:32,959 --> 00:03:35,519 excited to be here. My name is Andy 80 00:03:35,519 --> 00:03:37,040 Tilman. Um, I've been [clears throat] in 81 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,319 Oshkosh for gez, uh, 15 years or so now. 82 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:42,640 Um, and yeah, I'm passionate about 83 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,319 making Oshkosh more inclusive space. So 84 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:47,760 glad you're here to help out with it. 85 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,599 >> All right, we'll get to Jim in a little 86 00:03:49,599 --> 00:03:52,480 bit when he gets his presentation. And 87 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,760 I'm Michelle. We met before, but I'm the 88 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,879 um staff liaison for for this committee 89 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:01,519 from the city. So, and I have been the 90 00:04:01,519 --> 00:04:03,280 staff leazison since the beginning of 91 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,360 the committee about 7 years ago. Okay. 92 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,360 >> So, now we have to do some committee 93 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,200 reorganization because we currently do 94 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,319 not have a vice chair. 95 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:16,479 So, at this time I call for nominations 96 00:04:16,479 --> 00:04:18,479 for vice chair. A second is not 97 00:04:18,479 --> 00:04:21,120 required. 98 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,510 Are there any nominations? 99 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,199 I'm going to nominate Andy. 100 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:30,960 So, have a question about that. Um, I 101 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,479 didn't think of this until just now. I 102 00:04:32,479 --> 00:04:34,160 think I'm technically an alternate. Can 103 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,000 I be vice chair as an alternate? 104 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,360 >> That's a question for Michelle. 105 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,000 >> Yes. 106 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,040 >> Okay. 107 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,120 >> Actually, our our last vice chair was an 108 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,160 alternate. 109 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,479 >> Well, there we go. 110 00:04:44,479 --> 00:04:46,560 >> Are there any other nominations? This is 111 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,880 the second time I am calling for them. 112 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,240 >> Okay. 113 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,360 >> Is anyone else interested in doing it? 114 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,800 >> Third time I'm calling for other 115 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,070 nominations. 116 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,160 So, if there's only one nomination, I 117 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,520 can ask for a motion to close 118 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,759 nominations and elect the only candidate 119 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:08,950 nominated. Do I have a motion for that? 120 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,120 » So, I will entertain a motion to close 121 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,919 nominations and elect Andy Tolman. Yep. 122 00:05:13,919 --> 00:05:15,919 >> Yep. I will entertain a motion to close 123 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:17,520 nominations and elect Andy Tolman as 124 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,600 vice chair by calling the vote. All in 125 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,520 favor? 126 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,440 >> Actually, we will do a little one by 127 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,000 one. 128 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,759 >> Yeah, we will do. So, um Amanda Hi, 129 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:31,280 Cramp. I'm sorry. I [laughter] 130 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:33,199 >> um 131 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:34,479 Tolman 132 00:05:34,479 --> 00:05:35,199 >> I 133 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:36,000 >> Deng 134 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:36,960 >> I 135 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:37,919 >> am 136 00:05:37,919 --> 00:05:39,440 >> I. All right. 137 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,199 >> Congratulations. [clears throat] 138 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:43,120 Yay. 139 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,639 >> Okay. Good job, Vice Chair. 140 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:48,960 And now we need to approve the minutes 141 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,840 from the August 24th, 2026 meeting. Are 142 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:54,240 there any comments about the thrilling 143 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,400 minutes from last month? Any 144 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,039 discussion? Anything? 145 00:06:01,039 --> 00:06:03,600 Do I have a motion to approve the 146 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:09,990 minutes? 147 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,440 Motion to approve. 148 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:12,880 >> So moved. 149 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,550 >> Do I have a second? 150 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,360 » Yes. Second. Great. 151 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,479 Can we take the role, please? 152 00:06:22,479 --> 00:06:25,120 All right. Um, cramp 153 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:25,680 >> I 154 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,560 >> amer. 155 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:26,960 >> Hi, 156 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,600 >> Tolman. 157 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,000 >> Hi, 158 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,639 >> Deng. 159 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:29,199 >> Hi. 160 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:30,319 >> All right. 161 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:32,160 >> Do we have any public statements or 162 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,919 public comments on agenda items? 163 00:06:33,919 --> 00:06:36,720 >> We do not have any statements or public 164 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,560 comments items. 165 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,880 >> So, now we move on to our presentation 166 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,720 from Jim Bame from Father Cars. Welcome. 167 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,440 >> Well, thank you. So, as Amanda said, my 168 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,120 name is Jim Bame. I'm the executive 169 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,440 director of Father Cars. I'm uh in my 170 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,520 fifth year at the ministry and uh a 171 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,120 brief history of Father Cars. So um in 172 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,240 1974, Father Carr the year he was 173 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,880 ordained a Catholic priest um came to 174 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,960 town and four high schoolers asked 175 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Father Carr that they said we need a we 176 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,120 need a safe place that we can hang out. 177 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,720 So the place to be and that's why it's 178 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,160 called the place to be. It started out 179 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,080 as a high school hangout in St. Pete's 180 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,240 church basement. So, it was that and 181 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,120 then and then eventually he wanted 182 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,440 Father Carr wanted to uh start helping some people that need 183 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,400 had some basic needs and and um uh those 184 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,280 that were experiencing homelessness um 185 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,440 those that needed some health care, food 186 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:38,240 and and all that. So, he he started working with that population and 187 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,919 then eventually the Green Bay Dascese 188 00:07:39,919 --> 00:07:41,120 said, "You know what, Father, you're 189 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,479 doing some good stuff here. instead of 190 00:07:42,479 --> 00:07:44,160 giving you a parish, assigning you to a 191 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,479 parish, your ministry will be Father 192 00:07:46,479 --> 00:07:49,360 Carter's place to be. So, um, so we've 193 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,720 been doing it for 52 years. Um, because 194 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,560 he was a Catholic priest, we are rooted 195 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,720 in our Catholic faith, but our services 196 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,280 are open to all. 197 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,919 Everything we do at Father Cars is for 198 00:08:01,919 --> 00:08:04,400 nothing. It's it's it's all free. Okay? 199 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,400 We there's absolutely no revenue in our 200 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,160 ministry at all. Everything everything 201 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,960 we do there is is free to the public. 202 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,440 So, our mission statement, Father Carr 203 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,800 pulled it right out of scripture. And 204 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,800 just to paraphrase it real quick, Jesus 205 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,360 told us to love each other, take care of 206 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,199 each other, feed the feed the hungry, 207 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:23,440 cure the sick, take in the stranger, and 208 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,000 that's exactly what we do. So, let's 209 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,400 break that down a little bit. Food 210 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,240 security. How do we feed the hungry? We feed the We feed people in a lot of 211 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,560 different ways. Our pantry is open every 212 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:38,320 single day. Um on six days out of the 213 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,839 week, people can come in and just get 214 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:43,599 like groceries, a meal, um uh something 215 00:08:43,599 --> 00:08:46,080 to take home with them. Uh it's it's 216 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,560 really geared towards daily sustenance. 217 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:50,880 And then on Fridays, people come in. 218 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,040 That's when our our major pantry is. 219 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,640 People come in, they get their weekly 220 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,160 groceries. They get a shopping cart. 221 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,560 They go through the pantry and uh and and load up the load up the shopping 222 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:04,800 cart. Our pantry is open to all. Um the 223 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,760 only question we ask is how many people 224 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,080 are in the household that you are taking 225 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,240 the food to. We don't ask names, we 226 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,240 don't ask income. You can come as many 227 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,360 times as you want. It's uh it's open 365 228 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,480 days to anybody who wants wants to come. 229 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,600 Um we have a program called Table of 230 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,200 Grace and what those are, those are 231 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,440 frozen casserole dinners that we have 232 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,440 certain organizations or parishes make 233 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,560 for us. Um it is it was 2 years old in 234 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:34,160 April. So it's about 2 and 1/2 years 235 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,839 old. We have [clears throat] done about 236 00:09:35,839 --> 00:09:40,160 2,300 meals um in that time. Uh people 237 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,320 can just come in and and get a frozen 238 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,640 casserole. Uh they feed about 8 to 10 239 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,279 people. Our current selection is tater 240 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:50,480 tot casserole, sloppy joe's macaroni and 241 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,040 cheese and um chicken taco lasagna. Uh 242 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,920 we are working on a uh a casserole 243 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,839 dinner a hamal uh halo um diet. So it's 244 00:10:01,839 --> 00:10:07,279 a we we provide meals to um to the uh 245 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:09,440 Ashkashiri school district. So we 246 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,040 support we support the school district 247 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,880 in that way too. We're part of the nurse 248 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,240 and flourish committee. I don't know if 249 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,680 you're familiar with them. Um so we are 250 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:20,480 um trying to um diversify our menu a 251 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,000 little bit so we can make sure that we 252 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,279 have something for everybody. Um, we 253 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:28,640 also feed the hungry by our community 254 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,160 dinners, which we're pretty pretty 255 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,480 famous for actually, our Thanksgiving, 256 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,279 Christmas, and Easter. Those last three 257 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:38,160 holiday meals, we served over 5,000 258 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,640 people. The majority of those meals are 259 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,800 delivered. Okay, we deliver to all of 260 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,800 Winnebago County. So, I would say 261 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,839 probably 90% of them were delivered. Um, 262 00:10:47,839 --> 00:10:49,519 Thanksgiving alone last year, we did 263 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:51,600 over 2500 meals. So, we're we're 264 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,440 expecting another another big one. Um, 265 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,120 how else do we feed people? Our 266 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,800 community cafe is is um open 5 days a 267 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,800 week. People can just come in between 8 268 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,000 and 5 and just get something to eat. Um, 269 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,600 during the cold months, we have uh 270 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,240 chili, bowls of soup, um what whatever 271 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,519 we might have. Um there's no really set 272 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:15,920 menu. It's u what was donated to us is 273 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,040 what we pass along. So, 274 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,279 um, so that's how we that's how we feed 275 00:11:21,279 --> 00:11:24,000 the hungry. Um, cure the sick. Well, we 276 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,839 have our own St. Francis free clinic. 277 00:11:25,839 --> 00:11:27,920 The the clinic is the clinic is a true 278 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,120 gem on the on the campus. Uh, in 19 or 279 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,800 in 2021, 280 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,160 we had about a little over 800 patients. 281 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,880 This year we'll do over 2500. Wow. 282 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,920 >> It is uh it is it has just gone gone 283 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,560 crazy. Last year in 2025, we did over $2 284 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,399 million worth of free healthcare to the 285 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:49,920 community. Um I one thing I should 286 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,760 mention, our services are primarily for 287 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,160 Wnebago and the surrounding counties 288 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,959 which would be out of gami, Kelly, 289 00:11:58,959 --> 00:12:02,320 Fondelac, Green Lake, Washier in Waka. 290 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,560 So um so where the Wnebago is a center 291 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:09,040 then and then the counties around that's kind of our core that's where we 292 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,279 offer the services to. Um it doesn't 293 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:13,120 mean any you know people from other 294 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,519 areas can't can have it but there can 295 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:20,160 use it but um we're we're completely 296 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,639 privately funded. It's we strictly 297 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:25,120 private donations. We receive no subsid 298 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,839 um um we're not subsidized by the 299 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:31,200 government at all. Um so um because 300 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,040 that's where our donor bases. That's who 301 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,519 we that's who we try to serve. So our 302 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:40,560 clinic has many special services. It's run much like an urgent care. Um, 303 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:42,240 it's open five days a week, Monday 304 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,079 through Friday. We stagger the hours and 305 00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:45,839 we stagger them on purpose. On Monday 306 00:12:45,839 --> 00:12:47,279 and Thursday, it's open in the evening 307 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:49,920 from 5:00 to 7:00. On Tuesday or on 308 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,440 Tuesday and Wednesday, it's open in the 309 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,440 afternoon from 1:00 to 4:00. And on 310 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,440 Friday mornings or Fridays, it's it's 311 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,160 open in the morning from 8:00 to 11:00, 312 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,320 the same time our pantry is. So, people 313 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,160 can come and get food and also see a 314 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,880 doctor. And it's also open one Saturday, a month. We actually have a 315 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,680 sleep specialist comes in and he will um 316 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:11,680 he will assess you and should you need a 317 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,440 CPAT machine, we have free CPAT 318 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,839 machines. We have our own pharmacy. So 319 00:13:15,839 --> 00:13:19,040 we have most of the major um ma major 320 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,959 prescriptions including insulin and 321 00:13:20,959 --> 00:13:23,680 again that is that is completely free. 322 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:27,360 So we draw we draw labs, we draw we draw 323 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,480 blood and um and collect other samples 324 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,880 and and specimens. Uh we have great 325 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,000 partners with um Ascension Mercy, 326 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,639 Aurora, and uh soon to be Theta Care. 327 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:40,240 Now, if they have a hospital in town, 328 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,079 they're going to start up January 1st 329 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:43,839 being a partner. So, they do our lab 330 00:13:43,839 --> 00:13:46,240 work for us. They also will do imaging. 331 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,160 So, if you come in and you fell and you 332 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,839 maybe hurt a wrist and the doctor says, 333 00:13:49,839 --> 00:13:52,000 "I think we need a picture of this or 334 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,079 you got something else going on." Doctor 335 00:13:54,079 --> 00:13:55,920 says, "You might want a cat scan or an 336 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,639 MRI." we can give you somewhat of a 337 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:00,480 vulture and you can take it to one of 338 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,399 those providers and and get the imaging 339 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:04,160 done for nothing as long as you come 340 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,480 through through um St. Francis Free 341 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,959 Clinic. So again um open to all. We have 342 00:14:10,959 --> 00:14:12,560 a translation system. We have a 343 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,880 translation service 344 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,720 um that Ascension has helped us out with 345 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,360 so um so we can uh we can see patients 346 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,440 and we don't have that barrier of uh of 347 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,000 communication. So we have about 25 348 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,440 health providers between uh MDs, nurse 349 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,079 practitioners, physician assistants and 350 00:14:30,079 --> 00:14:33,279 RNs. Uh we have two psychiatrists. 351 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:35,279 Um 352 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:37,920 we have uh we have foot doctor, we have 353 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,760 kidney doctor. Um we started up our 354 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,480 dental office. So we have uh we have 355 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,839 dental hygiene two times a month. And um 356 00:14:47,839 --> 00:14:51,279 we're trying to get our dental service 357 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:52,800 going. We had a dentist and then he took 358 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,199 a job with uh Marquette Dental School. 359 00:14:55,199 --> 00:14:57,199 So he moved in Milwaukee and they come 360 00:14:57,199 --> 00:14:59,519 and they go, but we we'll get it open on 361 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:02,959 a consistent basis soon. Um so uh the 362 00:15:02,959 --> 00:15:05,279 clinic again is uh just doing doing very 363 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:06,880 well and offering a lot of help to the 364 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,560 community. 365 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,279 Taking the stranger. So this one can be 366 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:16,959 a little confusing to people. Um but we are not a shelter. We don't we don't 367 00:15:16,959 --> 00:15:19,120 identify as a shelter. we identify as a 368 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,920 life enrichment center. And um what that 369 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,399 means is people who are experiencing 370 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:28,720 homelessness, people who are coming out 371 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,760 of incarceration, people who are maybe 372 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,399 days away from being evicted, 373 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:36,959 what whatever 374 00:15:36,959 --> 00:15:38,720 100% of the people that come to us are 375 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,199 homeless. Okay? Nobody comes to us 376 00:15:41,199 --> 00:15:43,279 because they have a place to stay. They 377 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:46,160 apply for the program. And what what the 378 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,320 program is is we we want to take you 379 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,639 from point A, where you're at, to point 380 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:53,519 B. And point B is independent living to 381 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:58,240 get you back on your feet. And um um if 382 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,480 you are ready in your life to start 383 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,920 making some some um better decisions, 384 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,839 change some of the habits, change the 385 00:16:07,839 --> 00:16:09,440 lifestyle that's maybe taking you to 386 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,519 where you are. If you're if you're ready 387 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:13,680 to do that, you're accepted into our 388 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,120 program and the housing comes with it. 389 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,519 Okay. So, what does that mean? It means 390 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:21,519 that there'll be a daily structure in 391 00:16:21,519 --> 00:16:24,079 your life where you have to get up and 392 00:16:24,079 --> 00:16:25,680 you have to go to work. You have to if 393 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,040 you have to be employed if you're going 394 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,160 to stay with us. If you're going to be 395 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,720 part of our life enrichment program, um 396 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,839 you have to make your bed in the 397 00:16:31,839 --> 00:16:33,120 morning. You have to make your own 398 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,680 breakfast. Go to work. You have to be to 399 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,240 dinner at 5:00. That's our checkpoint 400 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,759 for everybody who stays with us. 401 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:41,440 Currently, right now, we've got about 42 402 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,199 or 43 people staying with us. That's 403 00:16:43,199 --> 00:16:45,120 men, women, and children. We have 12 404 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,839 children in the house right now. 405 00:16:47,839 --> 00:16:50,560 So, you uh you have to be at a dinner. 406 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,079 It's it's it's the time where we get a 407 00:16:54,079 --> 00:16:56,720 chance to see how you're doing. Uh make 408 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,880 sure that the barriers that you have in 409 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,560 your life or the bad habits that you 410 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,079 have in your life have not come back. um 411 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:06,640 to make sure that you learn how to live 412 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,559 in community. So you eat together and 413 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:10,480 then you do chores together and after 414 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,480 that you have some free time before uh 415 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,480 before the curfew. Curfew just changed 416 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,160 last night as a matter of fact to to 417 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,120 7:30. It was 8:30. So it's it's putting 418 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:23,280 a structure in in people's lives that 419 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,439 they haven't had in a while. And I say 420 00:17:25,439 --> 00:17:27,120 this a 100 times a week. You change your 421 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:29,440 habits, you change your life. And if 422 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,039 they're ready to change their life to to get rid of the habits that have taken 423 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:35,600 them to to where they are to that point 424 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,559 A, then then we we bring them in. 425 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:40,480 There's no timetable as to how long they 426 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,280 can stay. Some some it might take 3 427 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,200 months, some take might take six. And 428 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,799 we've had people there as long as two 429 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:49,520 years, depending on what situation they 430 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,720 they're they're in. Um, some men come to 431 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,520 us, they're $500, $5,000 behind in child 432 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,360 support. You can stay there till that's 433 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:00,799 paid up. But if you're working full-time 434 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:02,640 and there's no cost of living at Father 435 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,440 Cars, that $5,000 can go away pretty 436 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,120 fast. You can get yourself out of debt 437 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:09,679 pretty fast. Get some money in the bank. 438 00:18:09,679 --> 00:18:11,600 Um, 439 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,480 if if substance abuse or sobriety is an 440 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,919 issue in your life, you make sure that 441 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:18,640 you you can you can um stay clean and 442 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,280 stay sober. Uh I would say with men, 443 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,000 that's that's probably 99% of them are 444 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,600 coming with some type of a drug or 445 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,760 alcohol problem. Women is different. 446 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,799 women is probably 60% and the other 40% 447 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:32,080 are coming in for other different 448 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,080 reasons. Unfortunately, domestic abuse 449 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,080 is one of them. Um, so 450 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:43,600 we do we do um background checks and um 451 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,679 Father Cars is 99% volunteer. Okay. As 452 00:18:47,679 --> 00:18:49,840 the executive director, I collect a 453 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,240 salary. Emily, who runs our clinic, the 454 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,400 clinic director, she collects a salary. 455 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,240 And then Nick, the guy who runs our life 456 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,600 enrichment program, the director of 457 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,480 that, he collects a statement. Okay. 458 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,240 Everybody else there is a volunteer and 459 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,080 there's 30, 40 people there every single 460 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,960 day. So my priority, my number one 461 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,039 priority is the safety of our volunteers 462 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:11,039 to make sure that we have a safe campus. 463 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:12,799 So we do background checks before you're 464 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:15,360 allowed into allowed into the the life 465 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,360 enrichment program. 466 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,440 So, I'll answer some questions about 467 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,400 that um uh in a little bit, but um 468 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:29,919 we um we have we have the um the 469 00:19:29,919 --> 00:19:32,240 possibility of a of a man with children 470 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,240 to come in as well. We have we have one 471 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,080 uh we have one area that we can put that 472 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,600 in if we ever have that scenario. And 473 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,760 we've had it in the four plus years I've 474 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,960 been director. I think we've had it 475 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,080 three times. So um and the life 476 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,480 enrichment also goes as far regarding 477 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,679 the community. There's a lot of 478 00:19:47,679 --> 00:19:49,440 different ways you can enrich you enrich 479 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,039 their lives and volunteering is one of 480 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:53,039 them. So we try to we try to make sure 481 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:54,720 that people understand how they can 482 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,120 volunteer, how they how they can give of 483 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:58,640 their time, their important time, how 484 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,480 they can give from the heart. So and 485 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,440 because we are uh privately funded, we 486 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,120 find ways to touch their hearts and 487 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:07,520 believe in what we do. The other thing 488 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,240 that we do is we have two big community 489 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,640 events. One is Christmas for kids and 490 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,640 the other one is carnival for kids. 491 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,120 Christmas for kids is people families 492 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:20,320 come in um they get their own personal 493 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,080 elf when they walk in. The elf takes 494 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,240 them to breakfast and they go into uh 495 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,880 the chapel and see a a puppet show. Then 496 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,760 they go to a big table and they make an 497 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,080 arts and crafts project. They go see 498 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,240 Santa Claus and eventually they end up 499 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,360 in the the clinic and we separate the 500 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,240 children from from mom and dad. and mom 501 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,000 and dad go in the toy land and pick out 502 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,919 some presents for the kids and the 503 00:20:43,919 --> 00:20:46,320 children go in uh to a different area 504 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,840 and they pick out a present or two for 505 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,360 themselves and maybe something else for 506 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:51,840 mom and dad. We in turn wrap those while 507 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,120 they're separated and then when they 508 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:54,640 come together at the front door of the 509 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,720 clinic we've just provided their clinic 510 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,240 their their their Christmas for them. 511 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,880 They've got they've got wrap presents. 512 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,360 Carnival for kids is uh something we've 513 00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:05,440 started. We've had four of them and uh 514 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,840 the last two years we've had about 3,500 515 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,559 people at it. It is a free carnival, 516 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:14,480 full-blown carnival, six major rides, um 517 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,880 bouncy house, stock cars, um obstacle 518 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,280 course, all kinds of kids games. Uh with 519 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,200 last year we had 15 different agencies 520 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,799 for the from the community there to 521 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:27,120 represent themselves. Little activities 522 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:29,600 at each tent to keep the kids busy, but 523 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,440 they could also um the the resource um 524 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,679 uh the resource organizations could tell 525 00:21:35,679 --> 00:21:37,200 mom and dad about what they can do and 526 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,600 how they can help them. So it was truly 527 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,400 a community event and um we're we're 528 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,440 really proud of our carnival. Um again, 529 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,200 it's absolutely free. It was about a 530 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,000 $40,000 event to put on last year. did 531 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,320 not cost Father Cars $1. It was 532 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,640 completely sponsored by uh organizations 533 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,240 and corporations throughout throughout 534 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,480 the city. So, the only thing it cost us 535 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,640 was we we put it together. We we uh 536 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,200 organized it and uh got all it was 537 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,640 almost 200 volunteers put it on. So, um 538 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,520 so it's it's really turned out to be a 539 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,120 very cool event. So um you know again 540 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:15,600 going back to our to our faith um for 541 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,679 the Catholic community. We have mass 542 00:22:17,679 --> 00:22:20,640 every morning and um and Father Dave is 543 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,440 there for spiritual direction which is a 544 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,360 big plus for for the people that live 545 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:28,480 with us. So that's Father Cars in a 546 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,000 nutshell. I don't know if I could say it 547 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,280 much faster. [laughter] 548 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,200 >> Questions. 549 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,600 If you do not have active employment and 550 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,840 are seeking employment employment, are 551 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,919 you able to apply for the life 552 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:42,720 enrichment program? 553 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,240 >> Oh, absolutely. Most people don't have 554 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,720 jobs when they come to us. Yeah. It's um it's it's part of it's it's part 555 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,360 of the the life enrichment is is getting 556 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:53,360 them to believe in themselves. I don't 557 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,200 want to say repurpose their life because 558 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,919 I I I don't know that it's that, but 559 00:22:57,919 --> 00:22:59,200 they have to start believing in 560 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,440 themselves and and to give them a 561 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,120 chance. I mean, if they truly deep down 562 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,720 want to start helping themselves, um, to 563 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,039 give them a chance to to go out and and 564 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:13,280 find employment and to start believing 565 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,640 in themselves and and and knowing that, 566 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,159 you know, without having the cost of 567 00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:19,679 living and the barrier of that dollar, 568 00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:23,919 the barrier of the bills that yes, they um and we're very good at finding 569 00:23:23,919 --> 00:23:26,559 people jobs. I mean, jobs sometimes can 570 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:28,960 be swim, but um sometimes they have to 571 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,640 be a little more open-minded about what 572 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,039 they want to do. Um but you know there's 573 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:35,039 a starting point for everything. So it's 574 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:37,280 a good question. 575 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,080 >> I have a question. 576 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,480 >> Yeah. 577 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,880 >> Um does father cars accommodate um those 578 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,200 who have employment schedules that don't 579 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,240 fit the structure you have in place? 580 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,720 >> So we don't. Okay. To answer your 581 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,799 question, uh we don't allow second and 582 00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:53,440 third shift. And the reason the reason 583 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,840 we don't is that 5:00 dinner is very 584 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,080 important to us and it's even more 585 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,400 important to them. We have asked a lot 586 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,159 of people who have gone through the 587 00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:04,240 program successfully and they've left 588 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,919 and they we maybe see them a couple 589 00:24:05,919 --> 00:24:07,840 months later and and one of the first 590 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,679 things that they say is how important 591 00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:11,440 that dinner was to sit down and have 592 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,440 somebody to eat with because when they 593 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,600 leave most of them are going home and 594 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,279 having dinner by themselves. 595 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:23,279 >> They don't understand the importance of that community. So, 596 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:25,440 we've we've tried to alter it and it 597 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,039 really has come back and and not only 598 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:29,279 bid us, but has not been as effective as 599 00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:31,679 it has been when we have it. And because 600 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:34,240 most of them are unemployed, 601 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,640 >> um we can we can make it so they have a 602 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,990 first gift job. So, 603 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,520 » so you're not subsidized by the 604 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,799 government at all. So, everything is 605 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:46,400 from donations that you 606 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,200 >> 100%. 607 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,640 >> That's amazing. We have a very small 608 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,480 operating budget because we have such a 609 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,279 small staff. 610 00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:51,600 >> Yeah. 611 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,159 >> Now, our operating budget for 26 was uh 612 00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:56,960 I think it's $565,000. 613 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,960 So, if you look at everything that we do 614 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,559 and what we provide, 615 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,120 >> that's a very small operating budget. 616 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,279 >> Doesn't say if you're talking about 2 617 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:07,039 million in healthcare, you know, 618 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,120 services provided or donated to us. 619 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:09,600 >> Yeah. 620 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,360 >> Oh, I have 40ome people. 621 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,200 >> Impressive. 622 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,200 And and I say this as humbly as I can, 623 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,960 but but it's a fact that our our our 624 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520 percentage of men who come to us 625 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,559 homeless and leave is about 80% that 626 00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:27,039 leave with with with a place to live. 627 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:29,120 Now women is a bit lower. Okay? And 628 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,520 that's that's something we're we're not 629 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,200 comfortable with. It's only it's only in 630 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,679 like the 60% range and we're trying to 631 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:38,640 get better at that. Okay? And and we're 632 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,720 a small ministry. I mean, we're we're a 633 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,240 large ministry, but we're we're really 634 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,840 in the whole scheme of things, we're kind of a small ministry because 635 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,200 of, you know, just mostly volunteers. 636 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,039 Um, 637 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:52,799 we know who we are and we know who we're 638 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:55,360 not. So, so we do have to be a little 639 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,240 selective about people that come in. 640 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,880 People who are at the edge the at um 641 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,880 past their working years, we're we're 642 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,159 probably not going to be the place for 643 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:06,320 them because there's really no end game, 644 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,919 okay? We're where they're at in their 645 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:09,520 life. 646 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,360 They're they're if if they can't afford 647 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:14,000 independent living now, just by living 648 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,520 with us for a while is not going to help 649 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,520 you. Okay? 650 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,679 >> We're more about total healing. We're 651 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:21,360 not there just to put a band-aid on 652 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:26,950 something. And going back to um 653 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,520 the way a person heals is they have to 654 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,200 become completely honest with 655 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,440 themselves. They have to understand who 656 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,960 they are and where they are with their 657 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,440 life and what they're doing. If if they 658 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,360 keep if they keep having all these 659 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,200 fantasies about what they want to be, 660 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,039 but they're not but their actions aren't 661 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:46,400 following their their thoughts or their dreams, they're never going to 662 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,400 get there. They have to to get them to 663 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,480 be completely honest with themselves. 664 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,080 That's when the healing starts. And 665 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,440 that's what we have. That's what we do. 666 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,120 That's what we try to do. 667 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:56,960 >> It's um I'm an alcoholic, so I 668 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,559 understand what it's like to hit rock 669 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:01,039 bottom. And and rock bottom is it it's 670 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:02,720 important, you know, it's almost 671 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,120 necessary to to get there. So we we try 672 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,600 to take them and let them understand as 673 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,760 humbly as they can like this is where 674 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,679 you're at. Where do you want to be? Let 675 00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:15,919 us take you there, but you have to 676 00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:17,760 understand who you are at this point and 677 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,000 we'll get you better. So 678 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,480 >> that's amazing. 679 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,760 So if people want to help, 680 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,600 >> volunteer. Um if you know if if if 681 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,240 giving of your heart is is there give of your time you know if give of 682 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000 your resources 683 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000 um 684 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,679 >> I don't know that anybody has ever come 685 00:27:41,679 --> 00:27:43,919 to father cars volunteered and hated it. 686 00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:45,919 I I just don't think that's true. Even 687 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:47,520 the people that come in for community 688 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,400 service or community service they still 689 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,240 continue to come back even after they're 690 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,440 done. 691 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,679 >> It's a great community. It really is. I 692 00:27:55,679 --> 00:27:59,760 mean, you can there's there's a sense of love there. And, you know, I'm I'm 693 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,760 going to pat the Lord on on his back for 694 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,000 that one. That's what I believe. But 695 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,080 there it it is really a cool community 696 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,279 to be part of. So, if you if if you're 697 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,600 looking if you got an emptiness in your 698 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,919 life right now, that's how you enrich 699 00:28:13,919 --> 00:28:15,919 it. Come and give up your time. Just 700 00:28:15,919 --> 00:28:18,000 come and work in the food pantry. Couple 701 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,520 hours a month. Um you play piano, come 702 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,279 and play come and play piano some 703 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,600 morning at pantry. I had a guy call the 704 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,799 other day. He says, "Can I come and play 705 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:28,720 piano for your Thanksgiving dinner?" 706 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,640 Absolutely. Come and play. Um, so I 707 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,640 would say give up some weight. Give of 708 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,320 yourself some way. That's the way you 709 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,360 enrich your life. So, 710 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,080 >> and monetary. Do you have a place for 711 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,960 monetary donations as well? 712 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,200 >> Yeah, you can either go online and and 713 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,960 uh donate online. Otherwise, you can 714 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,799 come right to Father Cars. I'd love to 715 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:52,480 give tours. You know, come and see what 716 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,919 we're all about. I'll give you a tour of 717 00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:55,600 the place and um you know there's a lot 718 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,720 of ways you can donate while you're 719 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,399 there. Um we have a Facebook page uh you 720 00:29:00,399 --> 00:29:03,760 know website uh it's fathercars.org 721 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,600 so all spelt out fathercars.org. So um 722 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,880 there's a lot of different ways to give. 723 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,720 >> Thank you so much. Learned so much. 724 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,559 >> I drive past father cars all the time 725 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,919 and I now I know much more. So thank you 726 00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:21,840 so much. I I started volunteering there 727 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,679 about 8 years ago and I was blown away 728 00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:25,039 by what they did though. I couldn't 729 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,200 believe it and that's that's the biggest 730 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,000 comment I get after every tour is I 731 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,440 never knew you the scope services. 732 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,200 >> Yeah. 733 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,799 >> Well, thank you so much. 734 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:38,240 >> Thanks for the opportunity. Appreciate 735 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,360 it. Thank you for what you know. 736 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,880 >> Thank you. 737 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,559 You're welcome to stay for the rest of 738 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,515 our 739 00:29:47,515 --> 00:29:49,360 [laughter] 740 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,320 >> I haven't seen my wife in 3 days. 741 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,520 >> Thank you so much. 742 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,480 >> Thank you. 743 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,880 >> So now we get to discuss and vote on 744 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,960 November and December's meetings because 745 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,640 usually I mean it's always the fourth 746 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,600 Monday and that's usually the week of 747 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,279 Christmas and Thanksgiving. So, we need 748 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,840 to talk about if we want to do those 749 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,840 weeks, which I don't think we do. So, 750 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,760 let's actually look at the dates. 751 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,240 >> Yes, the the Thanksgiving ends up 752 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,000 following the Monday before 753 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,679 Thanksgiving. 754 00:30:21,679 --> 00:30:24,000 >> Um, so 755 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,039 >> obviously staff will be here as needed 756 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:30,000 that week. We are scheduled, but really 757 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,440 also it comes down to the 758 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,480 >> uh commitment of of the members as well. 759 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,000 And then I believe the December one, 760 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,480 it's on the 28th. So it's the it's the 761 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,320 week after Christmas, 762 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:44,880 >> right? 763 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,120 >> But so yeah, I I think I move that we 764 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,360 cancel both of those meetings. 765 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,120 >> Anyone want to second that? 766 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,880 >> Second. Okay, good job. 767 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,799 >> Thanks. [laughter] Say without a 768 00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:57,520 question mark. 769 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,279 >> No. 770 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:01,679 >> Um, 771 00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:02,880 do you want to have any further 772 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,320 discussion? 773 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,720 >> No. Do you want to you look at you have 774 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,360 discussion videos? 775 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,240 >> No, I don't 776 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,080 December one makes sense to me, but like 777 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,159 November we just think everyone will be 778 00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:15,279 out of town. 779 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:17,520 >> Yeah, I think I mean cuz it's the Monday 780 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,600 before and there's always people are 781 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,600 traveling and 782 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,559 >> it it tends to be a heavy travel week. 783 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:26,640 It doesn't always fall the Monday before 784 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,399 Thanksgiving. Sometimes it's the Monday 785 00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:30,720 after. This here it is the Monday 786 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,120 before. Um, so it really comes down to 787 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,480 >> again this committee and their 788 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,799 availability. 789 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,279 >> I have not booked anyone for November at 790 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:42,960 this time because I knew we were having 791 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760 this discussion. So I don't have anyone 792 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,600 coming in yet. 793 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,399 >> Um certainly I I do get a little 794 00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:52,159 concerned about quorum during some of 795 00:31:52,159 --> 00:31:52,880 those weeks. 796 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,480 >> Yeah. And since we've been having some 797 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,480 quorum 798 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,120 quandries, um I think that maybe 799 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,919 the November meeting we should also just 800 00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:04,640 mix it. 801 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,640 >> Okay. Well, that's the motion on the 802 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,440 table. So, um I will call a roll. 803 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,080 Cramp 804 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:12,960 >> I 805 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,840 >> Abacher 806 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,960 >> I. 807 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,760 >> Tolman 808 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,159 >> I. 809 00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:16,720 >> Dang. 810 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,200 >> I Okay, thank you. Okay. So, now we have 811 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,240 discuss future DEI committee projects. 812 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,880 So, I had the amazing opportunity to 813 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,600 chat with Dr. Pang from the Wnebago Area 814 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,679 Literacy Council. She's come in here 815 00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:37,200 before. She's great. Um, we discussed a 816 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,279 lot of things. So, right now the WALC is 817 00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,760 drowning in support needs because 818 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,519 they're they're mostly there to teach 819 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,360 language learning classes, but they're 820 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,039 also assisting people with all these 821 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,039 everyday tasks like translating forms 822 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,600 and helping people pay bills, stuff that 823 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,159 isn't really in their 824 00:32:56,159 --> 00:32:57,919 like wheel. It's in their they can do 825 00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:00,399 it, but it's not like why they're there. 826 00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:03,279 Um, so this is why language access is 827 00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,039 crucial and not something to be put on 828 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,279 the back burner. Um because the 829 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,039 importance of communication cannot be 830 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:11,200 overstated. Dr. Pang made it very clear 831 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,679 that doing something at all is 832 00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:15,039 preferable to doing everything 833 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:19,279 perfectly. So we just have to start. Um 834 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:21,440 she also noted that this committee kind 835 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,440 of exists in a vacuum and I agree with 836 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,919 her. Um as a group we typically only see 837 00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:28,240 like the leader like we saw Jim and he's 838 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,799 super nice but we don't see typically 839 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:33,120 see or interact with the people that the 840 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,039 organizations serve. Um, so I think 841 00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:39,039 maybe one time in the 2 and a half years 842 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,519 I've been here that there was a service 843 00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,880 user speak like here with the executive 844 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,080 director or whatever. So I think we need 845 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,360 to go out into the community with our 846 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,720 DEI hats on. We need to be visible in 847 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,320 the city and learn as much as we can 848 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,799 from the people who need DEI policies. 849 00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,880 So we need to make marginalized people 850 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,039 visible to the people who are always 851 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,519 centered. Um, she had a bunch of other 852 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:06,720 ideas. In a lot of in some cities and 853 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,800 municip municipalities, radio 854 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,720 announcements like kind of on YouTube 855 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:13,280 are a thing that a lot of um different 856 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,399 communities who speak different 857 00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:16,960 languages use. So, it'll just be like a 858 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,879 30-se secondond little clip on YouTube 859 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:20,800 like here's what's going on today in the 860 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,200 city, but like in Mong. Um, and so she 861 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,200 said that that's really effective for a 862 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,960 lot of different language groups and 863 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,040 especially because a lot of the cultures 864 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,919 in Oshkosh have mostly oral traditions. 865 00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:36,240 So a lot of the older people can't read 866 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:39,359 the languages that they speak. Um, so 867 00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:40,960 this makes it more accessible for 868 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,560 everyone and it's like a quick little 869 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,280 thing to do. Um, she also mentioned 870 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,280 plain language training which I didn't 871 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,599 really know anything about. Um, it's not 872 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,679 like dumbed down language. It's stripped 873 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,000 of confusing and complicated niche terms 874 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,919 or jargon so lay people can understand 875 00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:58,160 it. And if you go to centerforplay plain 876 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,880 language.org, they have all of these 877 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,880 examples of like what a form looked like 878 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,240 before they turned it into plain 879 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,040 language, what a form looked like after. 880 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,200 It's night and day. The form and it's 881 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,400 the form before legally all this jargon 882 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,480 there to for and all this stuff. and 883 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,040 afterwards it just you could get to the 884 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,960 information without having to like claw 885 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,000 through the jargon. Um, so that's 886 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,839 something to keep in mind. There is 887 00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:25,920 plain language training is available. So 888 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,160 that might be something that some people 889 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,680 who help create the website can can look 890 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,400 into. But we also can't rely on Google 891 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,880 Translate to translate the city website. 892 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,599 Um because it rely it results in 893 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:42,320 inaccurate translations and it requires 894 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,480 users to click on a bunch of stuff. I I 895 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,680 tested it out with my phone and I had to 896 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,320 click like six things to make it turn 897 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,560 into a different language. So and it 898 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,440 also can give poor translations. So, I'm 899 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,359 learning Swahili right now. So, kiga 900 00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:02,320 kalamu literally means to throw a pen. 901 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,400 But that's how you say you're firing 902 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,079 someone. Like if you fire them, you like 903 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:07,520 throw your pen at them, which I think is 904 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,720 fun. Um, but if you didn't know that 905 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,880 about Swahili and you just saw Kiga 906 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,520 Kamu, you'd be like, "They threw a pen? 907 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,000 What?" So that's why non-human 908 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,079 translations don't really capture the 909 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,720 nuance and meaning of a language. Like 910 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,440 the difference between must and should. 911 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,359 If you say you must pay this by the 912 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,359 first, that's very different than saying 913 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:31,520 you should pay this by the first, right? 914 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,960 Because one can result in you getting 915 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,720 evicted. 916 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,079 >> Um question. 917 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:37,760 >> Yeah. Uh since I'm new 918 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,320 >> Mhm. 919 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,359 >> Uh what what is the we're talking about 920 00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:43,440 the city website? Yeah. What's the the 921 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:44,079 goal here? 922 00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:45,040 >> Kind of everything right now. 923 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,480 >> Yeah. Talking about everything, but I am getting to the city website. So 924 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,280 like what was the point of the interview 925 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:53,760 with 926 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,240 >> So I talked with her because I we the 927 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:58,320 last meeting we had we were all we all 928 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,599 talked about what issue in the city is 929 00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:03,359 most important to you right now. What do 930 00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:04,800 you think that the DEI committee could 931 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,560 be doing better? 932 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,599 >> Um and so I'm choosing to focus on 933 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:12,720 language access stuff. So I decid I I 934 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,280 question that I asked um Dr. Pang was 935 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,119 like what can we take off your plate? 936 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,200 like what would what would it make what 937 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,760 can the city do to make your work 938 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,040 easier? 939 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,520 >> And she said a lot of it is like people 940 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,280 accessing city services through the 941 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,160 website. 942 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,800 >> So 943 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,640 >> maybe maybe a different way to rephrase 944 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,240 it. What is the city currently 945 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:33,359 outsourcing to 946 00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:34,640 >> exactly? Yeah. What is the city 947 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960 currently like kind of relying on these 948 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,119 outside organizations for? 949 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,280 >> So although when you say forms and 950 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,480 things that's people have forms they 951 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,839 need completed. 952 00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:47,920 >> Yeah. taking them to 953 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,520 >> they take them there and then they say, 954 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,040 "Yeah, I don't understand this form. Can 955 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,221 you please help me fill it out?" 956 00:37:52,221 --> 00:37:52,480 [clears throat] 957 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,000 >> Yeah. Because the forms are not 958 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,720 available on the website in in most 959 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:57,599 languages. 960 00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:00,400 >> So almost 7% of Oshkosh residents above 961 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,160 the age of five speak a language other 962 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,480 than English at home. That's 7% of the 963 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,839 population who's being left out of 964 00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:08,320 participating in some city government or 965 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,280 services. Um, 966 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,599 so we need to identify people and groups 967 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:14,800 who have the time, knowledge, and 968 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,960 capacity to assist with translating 969 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,680 stuff. Um, there's lots of consequences 970 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,160 of lack of ang language access, like if 971 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,560 there's a weather emergency, like when 972 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,800 we have the tornado, I didn't, my next 973 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,880 door neighbors speak Swahili almost 974 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,640 exclusively. And I don't know if like is 975 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,240 are the radio like when your phone is 976 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:36,000 like whack whack does like it tell you 977 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,320 in Swahili cuz I know for a fact that 978 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,119 iOS Apple does not support any African 979 00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:44,720 languages. Um legal issues if you don't 980 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:48,480 know how to pay a parking ticket. Um 981 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,400 feeling excluded from your community. 982 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,720 That's the most that's why we're here. 983 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:54,640 So people who don't speak English as a 984 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,040 first language are not stupid. English 985 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,200 is incredibly difficult to learn. I've 986 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,800 been speaking it for 41 years and I 987 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,280 still mess up all the time. Um, it takes 988 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,280 seven years of dedicated study to become 989 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,960 fluent in a language. So, 990 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,560 we can't expect people to know things 991 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,720 the second that they get here. So, the 992 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,320 purpose of the DEI committee, this is 993 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,800 directly from the city website. 994 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,400 The DEI committee shall act as an 995 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,160 advisory body to the city manager and 996 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,000 common council in providing comment and 997 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,839 support regarding appropriate strategies 998 00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:25,760 to develop activities, resources, and 999 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,160 services that promote a positive 1000 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,440 community environment of equity, 1001 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,440 inclusion, and celebrate the diverse 1002 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,240 identities of the city of Oshkosh. So, I 1003 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,720 think we really need to like 1004 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,880 read that a bunch to ourselves and 1005 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,320 dedicate ourselves to this purpose. So, 1006 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,560 all of that to say, 1007 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,760 I think as a committee, we need to each 1008 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,160 find an organization that focuses on a 1009 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,119 marginalized group or a marginalized 1010 00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:58,320 sector of our city and meet the people 1011 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,880 who use who 1012 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,960 use that organization. Attend a meeting 1013 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,440 if it's appropriate. Talk to people in 1014 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,520 the community about DEI stuff. Go to 1015 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,920 where people are. like we can't expect 1016 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,079 everyone to come to us. We need to go to 1017 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:16,160 them. So I understand that I'm kind of 1018 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,760 being mean to Oshkosh right now a little 1019 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,200 bit. But we need to understand the pro 1020 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,960 what the problems are before we can fix 1021 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,560 the problems. And we can do better than 1022 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,640 what we've been doing. So let's do it. 1023 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,720 Let's move forward. I believe in us. So 1024 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:35,680 I would like to make a recommendation to 1025 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,599 city council. 1026 00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:39,599 The recommendation I would like to make 1027 00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:42,079 is the DEIA committee recommends that 1028 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,800 the city hires multilingual speakers to 1029 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,960 translate the most often used pages on 1030 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,880 the city website into Mong, Spanish, 1031 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,880 Swahili, and Arabic, the four most 1032 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,280 widely spoken languages in Oshkosh after 1033 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,319 English. Does anyone have any thoughts 1034 00:40:56,319 --> 00:40:56,640 about 1035 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,839 >> Can you read that again? 1036 00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:00,480 >> Yeah. So recommends that the city hires 1037 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,359 multilingual speakers to translate the 1038 00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:05,119 most often used pages on the city 1039 00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,520 website into M Spanish, Swahilian 1040 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,119 Arabic, the four most widely spoken 1041 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:12,400 languages in Oshkosh after English. 1042 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,160 >> What does the workflow look like for 1043 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,040 that? So like I'm a person 1044 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,880 >> and I need to access something on the 1045 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,640 website and I speak Swahili. M 1046 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,040 >> so I understand the recommendation but 1047 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,000 in [clears throat] terms of feasibility 1048 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,800 >> what do you mean 1049 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,160 >> like website design? 1050 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,640 >> Yeah. 1051 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,079 >> Looking at 1052 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,480 >> is that actually accessible? So like if 1053 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,160 I log in to the city of Ashkosh website 1054 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,160 >> how am I going to get to the pages that 1055 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,240 are in the language that I can read? So 1056 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,000 like I understand we're making the 1057 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,599 recommendation. I would assume that it 1058 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:47,440 would have like we would I mean I'm not 1059 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,960 the web designer person but I'm assuming 1060 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,800 it would have at the top like it would 1061 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,560 say like Kuahili and then it would say 1062 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,319 like have the links in Swahili and then 1063 00:41:56,319 --> 00:41:58,400 or like it would just say like Kswuahili 1064 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,440 and then you could click there and it 1065 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,640 would take you to the version of the 1066 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,200 website probably. This is just an 1067 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,400 >> Yeah. What resources do we already have 1068 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,560 accessible in any of those languages? 1069 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,839 >> None. 1070 00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:12,240 >> Zero. The website is only able to be 1071 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:13,440 translated through Google Trans 1072 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,720 >> Yeah. It's just reliant on browsers 1073 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:15,119 right now. 1074 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:16,800 >> Yes. Which I don't like 1075 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,880 >> and that doesn't work for if it's a PDF 1076 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,160 download or something like that. So 1077 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,880 that's 1078 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,880 >> Yeah. And it takes like so many clicks 1079 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,599 to and I and I am a intelligent person 1080 00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:26,240 and I could 1081 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,720 >> if someone needed to access information. 1082 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,000 Do we have physical forms available in 1083 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:32,720 other languages? 1084 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:34,319 >> Yes. 1085 00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:36,319 >> I don't also are there any translators 1086 00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:37,760 that are available like phone 1087 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,440 translators for that who work for the 1088 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,960 city? We also, sorry, this is going to 1089 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,640 be a nitpicky. A translator and an 1090 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,880 interpreter are not the same thing. 1091 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,800 >> So, um, 1092 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,520 >> I mean, maybe what I'm hearing too is is 1093 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,400 do we maybe need to take a a preliminary 1094 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,640 step and propose like hiring a 1095 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,359 consultant to audit first or something 1096 00:42:57,359 --> 00:42:58,720 like that? I don't know. 1097 00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:01,920 >> I feel like we don't have there's no 1098 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,599 budget for that, I don't think. 1099 00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:05,920 >> But would there be a budget to hire 1100 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,800 multi like 1101 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,240 >> Mhm. There's not a there's not a budget, 1102 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:13,200 right? Like there's not a line item. 1103 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,599 Like so I can make the recommendation, 1104 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,240 but is it a realistic? 1105 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:18,960 >> If like 1106 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,960 >> I feel like I realistic here for a long 1107 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,760 time and I really just want to 1108 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,880 >> I want to take Dr. Pang's 1109 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,680 dos into consideration and like we need 1110 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,000 to do a thing and I feel like this is 1111 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,240 like the tiniest ask. It's so tiny like 1112 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:37,280 you you could 1113 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,400 >> the recommendation is a tiny ask the 1114 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,079 actual 1115 00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:43,599 implementation 1116 00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,240 and somebody who designs my website 1117 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,560 that's a significant amount of bandwidth 1118 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,319 I'm using Sony 1119 00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:52,475 >> I used to work in corporate um 1120 00:43:52,475 --> 00:43:52,880 [clears throat and laughter] please 1121 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,280 excuse my corporate terms 1122 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,800 >> but you know what I mean 1123 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,400 >> but I mean I think that's that's what 1124 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,800 we're recommending right is we're asking 1125 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,560 city manager or whoever uh 1126 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,440 >> like uh 1127 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,400 >> cuz this needs to happen. say do a 1128 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,240 feasibility study and say how much would 1129 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:09,760 this cost either and that's why I'm 1130 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,520 saying I don't know if the first step is 1131 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,880 you need to hire these people or if the 1132 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,880 first step is we need to bring in you 1133 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,800 again it's not up to us but what we 1134 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,319 would recommend 1135 00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:20,400 >> doing is say the first step is actually 1136 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,079 maybe you need to hire a consultant to 1137 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:24,480 audit cuz even even as we've seen it's 1138 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,079 hard for us to have the time or it's 1139 00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:28,319 hard for us to outsource to someone like 1140 00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:30,319 the literacy council to say like okay we 1141 00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:31,920 just hope you do this on your free time 1142 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,960 you know [clears throat] 1143 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,079 >> um 1144 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:35,760 >> and right we're an advisory committee. 1145 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,480 We can't actually 1146 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,119 the actionable things that we can do. 1147 00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:42,319 >> It's ultimately the council, 1148 00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:43,359 >> right? Yeah. 1149 00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:44,560 >> What do you have a question? 1150 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,240 >> Yeah. Um, so what percent of that 7% can 1151 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,000 actually read in their like first 1152 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,720 language? 1153 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:52,319 >> I am not sure. I could not find that 1154 00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:53,040 statistic. 1155 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,200 >> But did you say that like most adults 1156 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,240 can't read in their 1157 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,800 >> I said that so like especially for um 1158 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,960 older monk people, it's mostly an oral 1159 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,280 tradition and for older people who speak 1160 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,240 as well. Yeah. 1161 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:08,800 >> Um, so that's why like another easy I 1162 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,760 mean easy thing I just 1163 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,200 >> I think that we could make the 1164 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,670 recommendation and then they can 1165 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,160 they 1166 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,240 >> we make more than one recommendation. 1167 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,440 >> I mean yeah we've only ever made too 1168 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,200 like I like it's not specifically the 1169 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,359 website it's that communication access 1170 00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:30,400 is a barrier. 1171 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,440 >> Yeah. And this is why the first step. 1172 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,560 >> So the website is great, but if I have a 1173 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,920 hard time reading my native language, I 1174 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,960 am still going to need to physically go 1175 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,319 somewhere to have someone help me. So in 1176 00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:48,640 terms of Ashka, like we already have a 1177 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,400 free legal clinic. 1178 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,400 >> We have other um organizations that 1179 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,200 offer like bring in your broken sewing 1180 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,960 machine. I'll help you fix it. 1181 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,640 Why can't we as a community 1182 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,720 utilize volunte make a recommendation 1183 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:06,640 that we're utilizing volunteers that 1184 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,800 already speak that language? I mean, we 1185 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,880 could utilize volunteers, but I wanted 1186 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,880 to pay people for their work. Um, 1187 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,640 especially cuz these will be people who 1188 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,440 are not white people. Um, and they're 1189 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,280 doing work. So, I mean, we could ask for 1190 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,440 volunteers, but I'd rather pay. I guess 1191 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,960 if I'm a community member and I know my 1192 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,040 brother's grandma needs help filling out 1193 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,440 a piece of paper, I will gladly give my 1194 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,200 free labor to help somebody fill out 1195 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,079 documentation. 1196 00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:37,440 >> No, I understand that. 1197 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,880 >> I think we can hope for that. And this 1198 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,480 would this would be my reason to still 1199 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,960 lean towards recommending um because we 1200 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,240 don't want to depend on that cuz not 1201 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:47,599 everyone has that. Um and once that runs 1202 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:50,079 up, it still leaves people out to dry 1203 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,319 who depend on these services. And if 1204 00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:54,319 this is something that you know whether 1205 00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:57,599 it be city forms or whatever we can't 1206 00:46:57,599 --> 00:46:59,359 just hope that someone has a family 1207 00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:01,440 friend or someone to help them. Now by 1208 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,520 all means I I hope they do and there are 1209 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,040 a lot of people I think that's why how a 1210 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,880 lot of people are getting by right now 1211 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,440 >> but if it's dependent on that that still 1212 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,200 leaves a lot of people out to dry who 1213 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,960 don't have that. That would be my 1214 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,400 >> and I'm specifically saying that we 1215 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,720 should hire people because I was like 1216 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:22,640 Dr. Pang has all these volunteers who 1217 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,680 work with her doing all this stuff 1218 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,200 already. 1219 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,040 Kind of like because the city isn't 1220 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,240 doing it, she's like helping people do 1221 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:35,440 it, but that's like not her job. So, 1222 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,960 >> does the literacy council have 1223 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,599 defined parameters on the services that 1224 00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:42,720 they provide? 1225 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,400 >> Yes. And she said they are drowning in 1226 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,680 support needs and that this would be 1227 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,880 something that would be great if she 1228 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,480 didn't have to do anymore. Are there 1229 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,520 other resources within the Ash community 1230 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,960 besides? So I hear feasibility study. 1231 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,280 None of these are an immediate or 1232 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,599 efficient fix to the accessibility 1233 00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:02,000 problem, right? So we have like it's a 1234 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,400 three-legged stool. The website being 1235 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,040 redone is great. Having people in the 1236 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,640 community available to help our 1237 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,680 community members is also great. What's 1238 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,480 the third thing? Right? Because if one 1239 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,440 of those fails, like what is our Swiss 1240 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,079 cheese? 1241 00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:19,520 >> Well, currently we don't have any of 1242 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,319 them. So, 1243 00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:21,839 >> and that's why I'd be an advocate for 1244 00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:24,000 moving in that direction. My my only 1245 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,520 question going back to my initial point, 1246 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,119 I I just don't know if the first action 1247 00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:29,040 step is hire these or if the first 1248 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,640 action step is 1249 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,040 >> bring someone into audit to even see. 1250 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,839 >> Yeah, 1251 00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:35,119 >> you could do both at the same time 1252 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:36,480 realistically. But 1253 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,559 >> if our [clears throat] recommendation is 1254 00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:40,480 y'all need to look at the website, isn't 1255 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,240 that the recommendation? Like do we have 1256 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,079 to tell the city council 1257 00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:46,319 >> I mean yeah how to do their 1258 00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:47,839 >> well we need to tell them specifically 1259 00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:49,280 that this is what 1260 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,880 >> someone's going to have to it's going to 1261 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,480 take employee time and I doubt there's 1262 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,000 any employees who just have hours 1263 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,839 sitting by right now. 1264 00:48:55,839 --> 00:48:58,240 >> Do we know what the most accessed pages 1265 00:48:58,240 --> 00:48:59,839 on the website are? 1266 00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:01,280 >> I'm guessing someone does but 1267 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,760 >> yeah someone that I'm sure our 1268 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,319 communications department does know. 1269 00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:08,480 >> Um currently there is actually 1270 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,920 initiative to redo the website. I do not 1271 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,040 know specifically what that all entails. 1272 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,880 >> Uh what I could do is see if we could 1273 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,520 get someone from communications to share 1274 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,520 what that scope looks like right now cuz 1275 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,240 I I don't know what the scope looks like 1276 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:30,240 for the website. Um, I don't know if 1277 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:32,640 it's a redesign or an upgrade or or what 1278 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,760 the the intention exactly is, but I 1279 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,480 think um my recommendation regarding 1280 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,000 your recommendation 1281 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,400 >> is that um 1282 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,760 >> I see if I can get someone from 1283 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,280 communications to come to our next 1284 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,319 meeting 1285 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:48,319 >> uh understand maybe what the scope right 1286 00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:50,240 now is of the project 1287 00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,559 >> and that also then if we put your 1288 00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,440 recommendation on the next agenda that 1289 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,359 gives people a little bit of time to 1290 00:49:57,359 --> 00:49:59,200 think about do I agree with this 1291 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,599 recommendation since we didn't say we 1292 00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:04,559 were going to take any action today. So 1293 00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:08,000 I I want to be careful that and I 1294 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,240 understand it's only a recommendation 1295 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:13,200 but this way we can um put it on the 1296 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,920 next one that we are going to consider a 1297 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,440 recommendation 1298 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,800 um and we'll figure out how to write 1299 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,359 that off if it's exactly your verbiage 1300 00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:23,599 >> um or maybe and I put in the agenda or 1301 00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:24,640 similar 1302 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,040 >> so that we can 1303 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,839 >> finish vetting this out without putting 1304 00:50:29,839 --> 00:50:32,720 everybody into a are we recommending or 1305 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:34,240 not recommending right this minute. 1306 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:34,720 >> Okay. 1307 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,119 >> If that is comfortable. 1308 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,359 >> And yeah, I like I like bringing someone 1309 00:50:39,359 --> 00:50:41,359 in from the communication engagement 1310 00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:42,720 division um 1311 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,240 >> and seeing what is the current 1312 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:45,920 initiative. 1313 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,480 >> I I'm trying to think of it might be 1314 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,480 nice if we had some questions prepared 1315 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,760 for them ahead of time so they could 1316 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,839 come in with some of that. 1317 00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:55,839 >> Um I'm sure we all have our own 1318 00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:57,200 questions. That's one of the big one is 1319 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,040 like what's the website? But this this 1320 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,319 is beyond the website, you know, the 1321 00:51:00,319 --> 00:51:01,760 communication engagement. This is just 1322 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,559 like a one first little step to 1323 00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:06,000 >> Can you give me an example of what 1324 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,079 they're asking? A lot of this like in 1325 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:09,839 terms of social services, a lot of that 1326 00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:11,359 is coming through the state of Wisconsin 1327 00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:13,760 like access.gov. So we wouldn't have any 1328 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,680 control over that in terms of like if I 1329 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,990 need access to food share gradu 1330 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,520 when you go into the website it is just 1331 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,440 in English. So if you want it at the top 1332 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,085 it's like government what to do? No, 1333 00:51:25,085 --> 00:51:26,319 [laughter] no, no. I understand that. 1334 00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:27,359 But I'm saying like 1335 00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:28,880 >> so those type of services I don't think 1336 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:29,839 what we're talking about 1337 00:51:29,839 --> 00:51:32,319 >> literacy council what you brought up as 1338 00:51:32,319 --> 00:51:34,559 Dr. Pang said people are bringing in 1339 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,040 forms for us to help fill out. I am 1340 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,119 asking 1341 00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:40,720 >> for that was just her example. She 1342 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:41,359 didn't tell 1343 00:51:41,359 --> 00:51:43,599 >> cuz my question is if it's forms that 1344 00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:47,119 are the city of Ashkosh owns right then 1345 00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:49,200 we can say hey we're recommending this 1346 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,440 change the website. No how often do we 1347 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,040 go on the city of Ash website? I go on 1348 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,440 maybe twice a year. So if I'm looking 1349 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,720 for a specific form, that's why I'm just 1350 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:01,440 asking if Dr. 1351 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,880 >> P. I initially had had when I was 1352 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,960 working on this, I initially had like 1353 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,839 let's find out the four most used forms 1354 00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:10,800 or whatever, 1355 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,119 >> which that could be something too. But 1356 00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:14,640 also, if you try if you go to the 1357 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,680 website and you're trying to find the 1358 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,599 forms and the website is not in the 1359 00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:18,800 language you speak, you can't find the 1360 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,079 forms in the first place. So 1361 00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:21,119 >> sure, like 1362 00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:23,280 >> but if we're So I think there's two 1363 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,800 different things. there's accessibility 1364 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,559 to the website and then the literacy 1365 00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,640 council doesn't have enough bandwidth, 1366 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,240 right? Those are two separate things. 1367 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:31,599 >> So, this isn't really even about the 1368 00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:33,760 literacy council as much. It's about 1369 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,559 like this is the notes that Dr. Pang had 1370 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:40,079 about things we can do to actually like 1371 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:42,319 make change in the city and a lot of it 1372 00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:46,559 is the language access stuff and 1373 00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:49,440 it's frustrating to go that there's it's 1374 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,280 only in English and there's so many 1375 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,839 people who don't speak English. So that 1376 00:52:53,839 --> 00:52:57,040 is just why I was focusing just on the 1377 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,839 website in those four languages. I think 1378 00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:03,040 that we can get real big with it at some 1379 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,599 point if we want to, but from my time on 1380 00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:08,319 here, I have learned that things move 1381 00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:11,200 very slowly and that you kind of just 1382 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,079 have to focus on little bits. And I 1383 00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:15,920 think that this is a good bit to focus 1384 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,680 on. I think yeah, getting people in from 1385 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:24,079 the communities like what how like maybe we can even ask people who come in 1386 00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:26,720 like can you just like test like use the 1387 00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:28,960 website like give them a little homework 1388 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,960 like find this form 1389 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,160 >> and like see if it's possible see how 1390 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,839 easy it is. I don't think anybody 1391 00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:38,079 disagrees with you that there's a access 1392 00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:40,960 barrier. Like that's not a problem. But 1393 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,119 what is the purpose? 1394 00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:47,119 >> We are recommending to city council that 1395 00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:50,319 the website needs to be evaluated for 1396 00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:53,200 >> language barriers and access and needs 1397 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,880 to be updated into the most common 1398 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,839 languages. 1399 00:53:55,839 --> 00:53:58,079 >> Yeah. 1400 00:53:58,079 --> 00:53:59,839 >> And I understand it's the government. 1401 00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:02,880 I'm failing to see 1402 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,319 how that's the only thing we can do. I 1403 00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:07,760 >> You never said it was the only thing we 1404 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,960 can do. It's not the only thing we can 1405 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,480 do. It's just this is my focus 1406 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,640 for that. We decided that we were each 1407 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,720 going to have a little focus. Mine is 1408 00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:20,160 language access. I had seen Dr. Pang at 1409 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,760 an event. So, I set up a coffee with her 1410 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,599 because she knows a lot about language 1411 00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:28,160 access in the city. So, that is why that 1412 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,760 is my focus. 1413 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,160 Okay. What have other members brought up 1414 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,319 as what like what their focus is? 1415 00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:37,200 >> This this is a pretty new initiative. 1416 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,800 >> We've really actually had someone come 1417 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,160 back with 1418 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,680 >> a recommendation from their passionate 1419 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,720 area of focus. 1420 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:46,720 >> Yeah. So that's why this is mine. 1421 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:48,400 >> Right. Right. 1422 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,920 >> Andy, what was yours? Did you want to 1423 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,119 share what you 1424 00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:53,040 >> um Yeah. And I haven't had much time to 1425 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,160 look into it. I have had some 1426 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,160 conversations. Um what I was focused on 1427 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,559 was uh civic engagement pipeline and 1428 00:54:58,559 --> 00:54:59,760 making sure that we have more 1429 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,359 representation around town that people 1430 00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:02,480 understand how to 1431 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,800 >> be civically engaged and access and have 1432 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,040 more um just diverse representation. 1433 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,800 >> Um one not to get off too much tangent 1434 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:13,680 but this could be something we could 1435 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,800 talk about another time. I don't have 1436 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,160 much information about this yet but you 1437 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,400 had brought up earlier 1438 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,040 as you were talking through about even 1439 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,720 just informing people that like this is 1440 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,280 here. We want to talk to people. I know 1441 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,599 some other boards and commissions do 1442 00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:28,800 things in the public like I know the 1443 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,480 sustainability board like they will go 1444 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,559 table at um the farmers market and stuff 1445 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,960 like that. So I that was one idea I 1446 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,319 thought of like oh we could do things 1447 00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:39,839 like that too. Maybe we could find 1448 00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:41,440 spaces where we go out but again that 1449 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,359 takes volunteer time for us to say okay 1450 00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:44,559 we have a couple of us who are going to 1451 00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:46,240 go do something. Maybe we could even 1452 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:48,000 team up with some other ones who are 1453 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,839 doing stuff like that and say, "Hey, 1454 00:55:49,839 --> 00:55:51,359 let's go out in the community and say, 1455 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:53,680 does this community, you know, what 1456 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,680 areas of Oshkosh feel inclusive or not 1457 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,280 inclusive and what should we be aware 1458 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,000 of?" 1459 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,640 >> Um, that was one idea. 1460 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,160 >> I enjoy volunteering. I don't have a 1461 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,839 problem also saying, "Hey, as a 1462 00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:05,359 committee, shouldn't we be volunteering 1463 00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:07,760 at the places we have people coming to 1464 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,599 tell us about?" So, if we want to meet 1465 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:10,880 the people, 1466 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,799 >> we go volunteer. 1467 00:56:12,799 --> 00:56:14,319 >> That's something we talked about. Uh 1468 00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:15,760 we've talked about this several times of 1469 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,839 even just instead of only just bringing 1470 00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:19,280 people in us finding opportunities to 1471 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,680 say you even Jim tonight said you know 1472 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,200 give tours for us being able to reach 1473 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,760 out and say let's go take Dr. about that 1474 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,280 too of taking a tour through the 1475 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,119 literacy council coming back and 1476 00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:30,880 reporting here and saying this is what I 1477 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,559 learned and essentially what I mean you 1478 00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:33,920 didn't tour through the literacy council 1479 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,119 but you had a conversation essentially 1480 00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:37,119 that going out talking and bringing that 1481 00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:38,240 information back and saying now what do 1482 00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,240 we do with this information 1483 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:43,119 >> or like OASD also right good resource 1484 00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,359 they have a lot of people [laughter] 1485 00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:47,599 >> so in terms of 1486 00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:51,040 um when I 1487 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,680 hear we're making this recommendation to 1488 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,760 a government body knowing it's going to 1489 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,880 take time, money, and energy that the 1490 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,359 city doesn't have to spare at the 1491 00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:08,150 moment. Is there a way that we can 1492 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,440 I'm trying to think of how to phrase 1493 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,680 this. 1494 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,680 What is the handoff? Right? Like we make 1495 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,079 the recommendation 1496 00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,319 then what? Then it goes to city council, 1497 00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:21,520 >> right? city council would then discuss 1498 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,599 what if any action they would like the 1499 00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:26,880 city manager to take. Um because 1500 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,720 realistically 1501 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,280 it is an advisory group. So anything 1502 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,119 that's recommended 1503 00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:34,799 um I would of course forward that 1504 00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:36,960 recommendation to the city manager and 1505 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,920 council um and then they would discuss 1506 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,079 and decide if they want the city to take 1507 00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:44,960 any any specific action. Obviously, they 1508 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,119 do understand any action that they ask 1509 00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:50,000 the city to take is going to potentially 1510 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,440 take staff time or dollars or both to 1511 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,799 implement and that is part of their job, 1512 00:57:56,799 --> 00:57:59,440 right? Is to decide where the city's 1513 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,040 resources should be implemented. Yeah. 1514 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,599 >> Right. Right. 1515 00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:06,960 >> And I think it's worth acknowledging 1516 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,280 that everything takes dollars. It's just 1517 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,119 whether or not we prioritize it. And if 1518 00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:12,960 we want the city of Ashkosh to be an 1519 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,760 inclusive city, we need to say there are 1520 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:16,880 dollars. 1521 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,799 >> They just for whatever reason haven't 1522 00:58:18,799 --> 00:58:20,400 been allocated this way. And if we want 1523 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,160 to prioritize this, let's allocate some 1524 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,839 dollar. We just This is one of the areas 1525 00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:24,880 I think we've struggled with in the 1526 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,480 past. No, what does it actually look 1527 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,720 like? What do you allocate them to? And 1528 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,559 this is a practical example 1529 00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:33,440 >> uh or a practical idea of we could 1530 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,760 allocate to this. And they may hear this 1531 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,599 and they may say, "Actually, we think 1532 00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:39,599 it'd be better to do that." Mhm. 1533 00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,119 >> But then at least it's [clears throat] 1534 00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:42,799 in the city council record. They've 1535 00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:44,559 discussed it. Like it's something we 1536 00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:45,839 could bring up again like, "Hey, could 1537 00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:47,599 you revisit this recommendation we 1538 00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:48,880 made?" 1539 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,160 >> And I think like it is like a practical 1540 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,559 thing that you can point at and say, 1541 00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:56,720 "Our committee did that." And also like 1542 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,599 now more people actually can find out 1543 00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:01,200 how to pay their parking ticket or 1544 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,799 whatever and maybe not, you know, have a 1545 00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:07,680 ding on their record or, you know, or 1546 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,839 ding in their credit. Dr. Pang told me a 1547 00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:13,040 story of this woman who she didn't 1548 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,440 understand how to move her utilities 1549 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,960 like from one apartment to another 1550 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,400 apartment. So she had just been paying 1551 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,240 both utilities for like a month and a 1552 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,079 half cuz she didn't know how to do it 1553 00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:23,359 and she didn't want to stop paying one 1554 00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:24,880 cuz she didn't want to get a ding on her 1555 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,920 credit. So it was like 1556 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,680 >> that's a good that's a good example 1557 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,040 because that is a city service you ask 1558 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,559 before was like and so 1559 00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:34,319 >> I think if we can get more stories like 1560 00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:36,319 that even be able to bring the you know 1561 00:59:36,319 --> 00:59:38,160 council if you know 1562 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,440 >> when we 1563 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,440 >> write a resolution or recommendation for 1564 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,119 resolution I don't know what the proper 1565 00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:44,319 terminology is 1566 00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:46,240 >> and say we are seeing these things 1567 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,559 happen exe y and z and this is why we're 1568 00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:51,200 proposing you to do this I think that 1569 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,799 would really help 1570 00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:54,559 >> would you be able to ask Dr. paying just 1571 00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:58,240 like the difference between 1572 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,720 somebody coming in cuz I need help 1573 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,359 understanding something read to me 1574 01:00:03,359 --> 01:00:07,359 >> or city service assistance, right? So, 1575 01:00:07,359 --> 01:00:09,440 like I think having some statistics to 1576 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,200 say like, hey, this one specific thing 1577 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,440 is super confusing and nobody can figure 1578 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,319 it out. 1579 01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:19,040 >> Cuz resource-wise, updating a website, 1580 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,119 literally it took me 7 hours of code to 1581 01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:23,359 update my own business website last week 1582 01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:27,599 and that was for one page. that I think 1583 01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:30,160 like it would be a lot easier to have a 1584 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:35,280 translator redo a form that you can make 1585 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,799 as a resource like here's this form in 1586 01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:41,839 your native language 1587 01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:42,799 >> it's available. 1588 01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:44,960 >> Yeah. I just feel like cuz the forms you 1589 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,079 have to like 1590 01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:48,799 >> I don't know. I think that the website 1591 01:00:48,799 --> 01:00:51,359 >> I have found in helping people access 1592 01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:53,599 social services, it's often easier to 1593 01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:56,720 physically hand someone a paper form to 1594 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,799 fill out than it is to try and explain 1595 01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:00,240 and navigate a website. 1596 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,000 >> Yeah. And I can't remember this. I And 1597 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,760 this is why I said we might need to do 1598 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,200 some sort of audit cuz I thought like 1599 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,880 legally we have to have some of those 1600 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:07,359 things on hand. 1601 01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:08,160 >> You should. 1602 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,240 >> I think I I don't know. I think legally 1603 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,280 the city has to have some of those 1604 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,040 things on hand. Typically in Wisconsin, 1605 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,960 >> um, public information should be 1606 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,960 English, Spanish, Mon, 1607 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,960 >> but that might just be physical. I don't 1608 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:21,920 know what the 1609 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,760 >> Yes, you have to have a physical 1610 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,920 theoretically have to have a physical 1611 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,599 copy of that available. 1612 01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:30,960 >> But I'm saying I don't know what the 1613 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,720 Does that apply to digital copies too? 1614 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:32,960 Does 1615 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,160 >> I don't think so. 1616 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,359 >> So that I mean that's something we need 1617 01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:37,520 to figure out. And all all that being 1618 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,599 said, like even the things that I don't 1619 01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:41,440 want the city to do just what's legally 1620 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,720 required cuz we know that's always the 1621 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,119 bare minimum. Um, and that's where I 1622 01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:46,480 want to figure out 1623 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,480 >> where are people struggling to navigate. 1624 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,160 And even this I think this is really 1625 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,720 good information you got is hearing that 1626 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,400 people are struggling. There are still 1627 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,240 forms they're bringing brought in 1628 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,920 >> and and maybe we find out, oh, there 1629 01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,920 actually was a translated form. It just 1630 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,760 wasn't easy to know that or wasn't easy 1631 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:02,799 to find it. And that's a different 1632 01:02:02,799 --> 01:02:03,280 solution. 1633 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:04,160 >> Exactly. 1634 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,440 >> It wasn't easy to know. It was an easy 1635 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,520 to find. It was translated poorly. It 1636 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:07,839 was 1637 01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:09,359 >> maybe it's out of date. Maybe it never 1638 01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:10,960 got updated the last one. 1639 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,640 >> That's true. Cuz like maybe they updated 1640 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,040 it on the website, but no one thought to 1641 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,200 translate an update like you know 1642 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,720 >> my background is in organizational 1643 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,400 behavior management. So that's why I'm 1644 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:21,599 like very 1645 01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:24,079 >> I like put things in columns and then 1646 01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:25,333 check them off. 1647 01:02:25,333 --> 01:02:26,960 >> [laughter] 1648 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,160 >> Um thinking you had mentioned though and 1649 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:35,440 I want to focus on that the the elderly 1650 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,720 people. 1651 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,280 >> We know mom wasn't written 1652 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,839 >> until the 1960s. I don't know the 1653 01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:43,040 history of Sweet Lee. So 1654 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,599 >> it was more like more recently 1655 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:48,799 >> but thinking about in terms of right a 1656 01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:51,280 whole website redesign is hard. Is it 1657 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,160 possible to add oral 1658 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,599 >> like a video of somebody giving the 1659 01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:59,520 directions 1660 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,200 >> as if they can't read it anyways? 1661 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:01,599 >> Yeah. 1662 01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:04,480 >> No, that's that's that's an idea that 1663 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,760 >> I think that's that's something that 1664 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,119 could come up if we get something like a 1665 01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:09,280 feasibility 1666 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,799 >> making a recommendation. It could be 1667 01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:16,799 evaluate this and then I don't know 1668 01:03:16,799 --> 01:03:21,520 whoever does that feasibility study. But 1669 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,720 yeah, I think that the notes are good 1670 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,039 and we can discuss about how to put it 1671 01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:30,000 on for next time. We can I'll I'll talk 1672 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,920 to Dr. Pang and ask her for if there's 1673 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,960 like any specific forms that people come 1674 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,400 to her with a lot. Um, 1675 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,119 and then I'll try to do some My 1676 01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:43,119 husband's a data analytics manager, so 1677 01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:48,079 I'll use his skills. Um, 1678 01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:50,319 well, and I can see what I can find out 1679 01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:53,440 from the most used forms. I mean, I 1680 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,039 don't I don't know what data we have, 1681 01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:57,520 but I'll certainly see what I can find 1682 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,720 out from our um either communications 1683 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,839 department or even the the departments 1684 01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:05,839 themselves that are 1685 01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:08,799 >> I mean, obviously, there are forms that 1686 01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:10,960 the clerk's office 1687 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,559 >> um you know, 1688 01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:14,319 >> needs people to fill out. There are 1689 01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:16,720 people applying for services and 1690 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,559 community development. 1691 01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:20,960 >> Um there are people paying their utility 1692 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:21,599 bills. 1693 01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:25,039 >> Yeah. uh online or in person. 1694 01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:29,119 >> Um and we are I know we are putting more 1695 01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:32,160 and more forms online. 1696 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,400 Um 1697 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,559 there's still obviously option to come 1698 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:39,599 in and and pay bills and and pro and 1699 01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:42,880 have things done in person, but um there 1700 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,160 are more and more forms going online 1701 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,319 >> and I'm not overly familiar with the 1702 01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:53,680 >> the platform that we're using. Um, I 1703 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,480 think it also has translation 1704 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,680 now, but I I will not pretend to be an 1705 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:00,799 expert 1706 01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:04,000 >> on on the software or the 1707 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,760 translatability 1708 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,640 >> of uh some of the new online services 1709 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,000 we've been providing. 1710 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,839 >> And I'd be willing to guess it's a whole 1711 01:05:11,839 --> 01:05:14,000 suite of different software providers. 1712 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,480 Mhm. 1713 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,200 >> So even if one software provider has the 1714 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,400 ability that does this thing and 1715 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:18,960 everything does 1716 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,319 >> overall city website is not 1717 01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:24,319 it doesn't flow very well. 1718 01:05:24,319 --> 01:05:26,319 >> Yes, this is we have discussed this. we 1719 01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:27,440 have discussed this 1720 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,720 >> and and like I said the there is a 1721 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,160 project at this time 1722 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,599 >> that's a big [clears throat] 1723 01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:36,240 >> yes to redesign 1724 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,839 >> and especially since that project is 1725 01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:40,000 ongoing this is something that 1726 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:40,559 >> right 1727 01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:43,760 >> it's a good time to at least be looking 1728 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:48,400 at this as part of the website redesign 1729 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,319 >> and also making city council aware that 1730 01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:51,119 this is 1731 01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:52,799 >> is important yeah 1732 01:05:52,799 --> 01:05:54,160 >> and I think when we get to that point 1733 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,400 too uh one of the things that would 1734 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,079 matter to me is that not only do we say 1735 01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:00,720 let's [clears throat] 1736 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,200 fill the holes that have existed before, 1737 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,720 >> but I wonder if there are some way that 1738 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,440 we can recommend to council to say we 1739 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,480 don't want to have this problem again in 1740 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,559 the future. So making sure anytime a new 1741 01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:13,760 form or new like there's a requirement. 1742 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,680 >> I don't actually know what council is 1743 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,039 able to do cuz that's more of a 1744 01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:18,880 department policy, but they might be 1745 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,240 able to 1746 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,319 >> legislate something that says we want to 1747 01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:24,000 require that every time this happens, it 1748 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,680 needs to be translated into these. Mhm. 1749 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,280 >> Seven language or what whatever it is so 1750 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,880 we don't have this problem in 5 years 1751 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,480 when all we have all these new forms. 1752 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:31,440 >> That's a great idea 1753 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,839 >> and and that's where I would say that 1754 01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:36,079 could fall somewhere between the 1755 01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:38,079 authority of the city manager and the 1756 01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:43,599 authority of council. Um so I would 1757 01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:45,119 as I mentioned I would share this with 1758 01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:48,240 city manager and council. Um because the 1759 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,960 city manager directs staff 1760 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,559 >> the council directs city manager. So, 1761 01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:58,000 you know, ultimately the city manager is 1762 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,319 going to direct staff to have policies 1763 01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:03,039 and procedures in place for everything 1764 01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:05,599 that we do. 1765 01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:08,000 Okay. 1766 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,240 Anything else on 1767 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,799 you? Yes, I'm not on this. I can share. 1768 01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:16,079 >> Yeah. Um, so I've been working on just 1769 01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:17,440 looking at different resources and 1770 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,359 assets that we have in our community. 1771 01:07:19,359 --> 01:07:22,160 Um, so I started with food. We actually 1772 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,400 have quite a few different um like 1773 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,480 entities that are making their own 1774 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,280 resource maps. Um so like the Winnebago 1775 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,160 County Health um has interactive food 1776 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,559 resource map and a local like food list. 1777 01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:37,520 So it lists all our pantries in the area 1778 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,760 um just like when they're open um 1779 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,920 eligibility, things like that. Um the 1780 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,680 Ashkosh Area United Way connects people 1781 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,160 to 211. So, there's that website that 1782 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,839 you can navigate um look up different 1783 01:07:47,839 --> 01:07:49,680 resources, but you can also call the 1784 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,319 number um and then the city of Oshkosh 1785 01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:54,400 and housing authorities share housing 1786 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,799 resources and public health and ADRC 1787 01:07:56,799 --> 01:07:59,200 also um publish help and support 1788 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,880 information. So, I've just kind of been 1789 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,799 pulling those different ones and just 1790 01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:04,319 seeing like 1791 01:08:04,319 --> 01:08:06,799 >> like which resources overlap and maybe 1792 01:08:06,799 --> 01:08:09,039 which ones are missing. Um and I'm just 1793 01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:10,880 going to continue doing that cuz I think 1794 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,079 a lot of people are already doing the 1795 01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:13,920 work. It's just kind of putting it 1796 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:14,559 together. 1797 01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:15,440 >> Yeah. Mhm. 1798 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:16,319 >> Yeah. 1799 01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:16,960 >> That's great. 1800 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,640 >> I think we kind of discover today um I I 1801 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,880 don't think we all knew in this room 1802 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,199 what Father Carr 1803 01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:27,759 >> was all doing. I didn't realize that 1804 01:08:27,759 --> 01:08:30,239 they had a a food 1805 01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:34,799 >> uh pantry. Um so I think again 1806 01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:36,799 >> knowing what all the resources are for 1807 01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:38,640 people in the community is something 1808 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,279 we've been trying to work on in this 1809 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:43,600 committee. right, is getting the word 1810 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,199 out there because there are a lot of 1811 01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:46,960 great resources out there to help 1812 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:47,759 people. 1813 01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:50,640 >> Uh, but the the issue is people don't 1814 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,400 know what resources are out there to 1815 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,560 help them. 1816 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,239 >> Yeah. And I think that's where like 1817 01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:58,239 Amanda, your language piece comes in too 1818 01:08:58,239 --> 01:09:00,400 cuz I'm finding that like everything's 1819 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,799 typically in English obviously. Um, but 1820 01:09:02,799 --> 01:09:04,640 it's like once we have like a knowledge 1821 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,040 of what these resources are, then we can 1822 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,640 think about like can people access and 1823 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,480 like what are the barriers and language 1824 01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:12,480 is a common barrier and like 1825 01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:14,880 transportation is a common barrier. So I 1826 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,560 think it'll be nice to identify those. 1827 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:16,960 >> Yeah. 1828 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,080 >> Based on the resources. 1829 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,759 >> Thank you. That's awesome. 1830 01:09:21,759 --> 01:09:27,669 >> Anything else 1831 01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:31,120 before we move on to the next thing? 1832 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,359 Okay. committee table committee member 1833 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:35,359 round table share DEI related activities 1834 01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:38,159 and events in the area. 1835 01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:40,799 I didn't write anything down cuz I was 1836 01:09:40,799 --> 01:09:42,880 doing this other stuff. Does anyone have 1837 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,159 anything that they what's going on in 1838 01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:48,799 September and October? So, I did just 1839 01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:50,799 write down one that I know is coming up 1840 01:09:50,799 --> 01:09:55,199 dia del uh dia de los mutos at the 1841 01:09:55,199 --> 01:09:59,199 museum every October. Um, this year 1842 01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,280 people can participate by submitting 1843 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,400 photos of loved ones to honor. Um, they 1844 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,120 can do that through October 23rd. They 1845 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,840 can drop off a copy during museum hours, 1846 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,159 which are 10:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. 1847 01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:14,560 Tuesday through Saturday. The event 1848 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,679 itself is Saturday, October 26th. 1849 01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:19,280 Certainly, if you're looking for more 1850 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,800 information, the Ashkosh Museum um has 1851 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,960 more information out there. But this is, 1852 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,760 I think, their fourth annual. 1853 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:28,239 >> Yeah. 1854 01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:31,760 >> Um and it has been more and more 1855 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,920 attended every single year. 1856 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:34,800 >> It's amazing. 1857 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,600 >> Yeah. 1858 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:36,480 >> At the public museum. 1859 01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:36,719 >> Yeah. 1860 01:10:36,719 --> 01:10:38,800 >> It's at the public museum, correct? 1861 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:39,120 >> Yep. 1862 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,440 >> It's so fun. And that's so nice that 1863 01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:43,280 they're doing pictures of love. 1864 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,120 >> Yeah. I think this is new this year. I I 1865 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,960 had not heard about this in previous 1866 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:47,840 years. So 1867 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,719 >> that's nice. Does anyone have any other 1868 01:10:50,719 --> 01:10:51,679 fun events? 1869 01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:55,920 >> I'm trying to find the date. Um there's 1870 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,120 two different hotels in the area that do 1871 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,960 a sensory 1872 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,920 >> friendly free trick-or-treating event. 1873 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,320 So different area organizations sponsor 1874 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,280 a room. 1875 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:07,840 >> Mhm. 1876 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,520 >> Um and I cannot find the date, but I 1877 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,000 will find it and then we can add that. 1878 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:14,719 Mhm. 1879 01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:16,719 >> Um 1880 01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:18,320 there's also one in Watertown, but 1881 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,280 >> yeah, that's far away. 1882 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,640 >> Um and then the 1883 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,040 church, 1884 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,189 Kitty Corner from here, 1885 01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:34,080 they do a trunk or treat. 1886 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:34,640 >> Oh, wow. 1887 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,560 >> That's daytime, 1888 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,080 >> very small, 1889 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,440 >> very accommodating. 1890 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:40,880 >> Yeah, that's there are a lot of really 1891 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,560 nice trunker treats. And I trunker 1892 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,920 trading was not a thing when I was a 1893 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,600 kid. And it's like 1894 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,679 >> kind of fun. People really go all out 1895 01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:49,040 with their trunks. 1896 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,679 >> And you don't have to walk far. 1897 01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:53,520 >> Yeah. And then no one's home anyway cuz 1898 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:54,560 everyone's at the trunk. 1899 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,960 >> Yep. 1900 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,480 >> Is there any other any other fun events? 1901 01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:01,840 There probably are. I just don't know 1902 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,560 what they are. 1903 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:05,920 there any do we know what's going on 1904 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,560 in in council meetings of outstanding 1905 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,159 items? Future items? 1906 01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:13,440 >> Yeah. Unfortunately, no. I did not um 1907 01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:16,080 >> Don't worry about it. I did not collect 1908 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,360 what's going on on council 1909 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,120 >> um right now. Budget, budget, budget. 1910 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,560 >> Um there will be all sorts of budget 1911 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,199 meetings coming up throughout October 1912 01:12:29,199 --> 01:12:31,600 that anyone who wants to watch them is 1913 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,719 welcome to tune in. Um, off the top of 1914 01:12:34,719 --> 01:12:38,560 my head, I know the the next the I think 1915 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,920 the first operations part of the budget 1916 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,480 meeting is October 13th. There's one 1917 01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:46,400 October 13th, one October 14th. I think 1918 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,320 there's one October 15th, and then I 1919 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,679 think there's another couple of days 1920 01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:50,960 after that. 1921 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,280 >> Um, and that's the operating. There have 1922 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,280 already been a lot of meetings on 1923 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,159 capital improvement. Um but operating 1924 01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:00,239 budget which is basically all of our 1925 01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,400 budgets that we spend on 1926 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,920 >> people 1927 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,640 resources websites fuel uh you know all 1928 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,640 of the things that uh 1929 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,320 >> make the city run. 1930 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,440 >> Yeah. 1931 01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:15,199 So those are important meetings. 1932 01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:18,960 So watch those or go to them. Are those 1933 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:19,840 open to the public? 1934 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,600 >> Generally yes they are open to the 1935 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:22,080 public. Um 1936 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,760 >> I started saying it. We don't we don't 1937 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,400 have a lot of people that come for the 1938 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,120 budget workshops necessarily. Um it is 1939 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,920 not an open forum but anybody is welcome 1940 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,520 to come watch. 1941 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:34,159 >> No 1942 01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:36,080 >> I can't be a spectator. I don't know 1943 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,600 >> and you I mean you can get those uh 1944 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,040 forms and everything the slides 1945 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,120 everything afterwards and review 1946 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,199 >> that's my suggestion to people is is to 1947 01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:45,120 read the stuff afterward and for anyone 1948 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,120 watching if anyone like that actually is 1949 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,880 super helpful because that is where you 1950 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,880 see different areas of inclusivity and 1951 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,640 diversity like saying cuz sometimes you 1952 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,040 miss those things I mean we can't know 1953 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,239 everything there's only a few of us on 1954 01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:57,760 this board and council can't know 1955 01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:58,800 everything like 1956 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,640 >> even as we're talking about 1957 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,800 >> tonight the example of uh language 1958 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:03,679 access 1959 01:14:03,679 --> 01:14:05,440 >> you don't know unless usually you are 1960 01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:06,719 someone impacted by it 1961 01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:08,080 >> and some people might see that in the 1962 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,960 budget um issue uh budget discussions 1963 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:11,840 that 1964 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,080 >> budget is disproportionately impacted 1965 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,520 because it always is we just don't know 1966 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:16,880 where and that's what we need to know 1967 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,320 and I would love if people brought that 1968 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,080 forward to us and said hey did you know 1969 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,840 this you should talk about this 1970 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,840 >> um same thing goes with zoning uh which 1971 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,000 is a conversation happening 1972 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,800 >> um right now too um is just how that 1973 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,640 disproportionately impacts other people 1974 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:36,880 of how we update our zoning codes and whatnot Um I have uh different 1975 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,159 thoughts but nothing gather enough to 1976 01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:40,320 talk tonight but definitely would love 1977 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:41,920 to hear from people who are watching 1978 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:42,960 those things, listening to those things 1979 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:43,920 and saying hey this is 1980 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,760 disproportionately impacting and we need 1981 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,120 to think about this as a city how we 1982 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:47,840 handle this. 1983 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,000 >> Yeah for sure people in the community 1984 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,159 you can tell us email us. All of our 1985 01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:54,719 email addresses are on the city website. 1986 01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:57,679 So if you have things you want to tell 1987 01:14:57,679 --> 01:15:02,080 us nice things maybe um cuz we we are 1988 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:02,960 here to help. 1989 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,400 >> Right. There is a specific DEI email as 1990 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,400 well. Um, off the top of my head, I 1991 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,360 think it's just DEIshwi.gov, 1992 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,120 which does come to me and then I can 1993 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,000 distribute to all of the the members. 1994 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,080 Um, and I'm saying that very not 100% 1995 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,360 sure that's the [laughter] 1996 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,679 website. Verify on the website. 1997 01:15:25,679 --> 01:15:28,400 >> It sounds right. So, for future agenda 1998 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,520 items, we are going to have Nami here in 1999 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,920 October. Yep. 2000 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,000 >> So, are we also going to try to bring in 2001 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,040 communication? 2002 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,480 >> I'm going. Yes. I'm going to see what I 2003 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:42,400 can do for October to um number one, 2004 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,400 have some information, and two, see if I 2005 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,719 can get someone to attend. 2006 01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:50,000 >> Um I can't promise cuz I don't make 2007 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,239 promises for other people, but I will do 2008 01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:54,640 what I can. [laughter] 2009 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,120 >> Is there anything else anyone wants to 2010 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,120 say? 2011 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,760 So uh question about that next agenda 2012 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,880 too. So is the goal that we would have 2013 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,000 something written uh that we want to 2014 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,960 vote on to advise a council on by 2015 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,880 October? 2016 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,880 >> Yes. So, I'm generally going to take 2017 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,600 Amanda's recommendation and unless she 2018 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,840 comes up with something different and 2019 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,440 put um some ability to or something 2020 01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:25,840 similar to that so that we can have 2021 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,600 discussion and then um vote on that or 2022 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,400 we can amend that to something else. But 2023 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,800 there would be an action item on the 2024 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,960 agenda that we're going to potentially 2025 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,760 vote on that recommendation. Again, that 2026 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,159 way people if they have an opinion about 2027 01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:44,640 that recommendation, they would know 2028 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,159 that they can come to the meeting and 2029 01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:48,239 talk to us and we can gather some 2030 01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:50,480 information and like I said, I can bring 2031 01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:53,199 in information from communications 2032 01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:55,840 regarding what they are working on when 2033 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,719 it comes to website and the 2034 01:16:58,719 --> 01:17:00,960 translatability which again I'm not an 2035 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,320 expert on. um so that we can utilize 2036 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,760 that to potentially sculpt 2037 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,040 >> um any recommendation. 2038 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,239 >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I just wanted to make 2039 01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:11,760 sure that was on the October agenda 2040 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:12,159 because 2041 01:17:12,159 --> 01:17:13,360 >> it's going to be because then it'll be 2042 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:13,600 like 2043 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:14,320 >> December 2044 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,159 >> January, right? [laughter] 2045 01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:21,040 >> Right. Um do we have a motion to 2046 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,000 second? 2047 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,120 >> You have to make a motion. Shoot. 2048 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,280 >> You leave a motion to adjour. 2049 01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,239 >> So moved. 2050 01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:30,560 [laughter] 2051 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:31,600 Huh? 2052 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:32,080 >> There we go. 2053 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,040 >> I was so confident. 2054 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,719 >> No, wait. Beth, you got to lead with 2055 01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:36,320 that. I love it. All in favor? 2056 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:42,988 >> I I [laughter] 2057 01:17:42,998 --> 01:17:55,498 [music]