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is Monday, August 17th, 2026.

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>> We start with the invocation uh with

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roll call.

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>> Okay.

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>> According to the agenda.

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>> Sword

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>> here.

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>> Almond

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>> here.

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>> Heler

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>> here.

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>> Rost

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>> here.

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>> Hson

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>> here.

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>> Homeberg

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>> here.

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>> Ibrahim

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>> here.

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>> Okay. Next is [clears throat] the

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invocation from Gateway Church of the

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Nazarene.

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» Pray.

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>> Lord, we thank you for who you are. We

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thank you for this incredibly beautiful

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day in August. And God, as we approach

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uh the end of summer and the uh the the

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consistent schedule of school being back

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in session, Lord, I just pray that you

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would um bring blessing and favor to

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those that work in our education

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department, our educational system. God,

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we pray uh for protection. We pray for

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our teachers, our leaders. um God that

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they would just continue to educate uh

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the youth of our city uh in a way that

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is honoring to you and is beneficial for

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um our society. Lord, I thank you for

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these leaders around this room. God, I

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pray that they would uh make wise

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decisions and God be discerning. God,

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would you give them um your blessing

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tonight? And as we uh move forward,

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Lord, we just pray that you would just

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continue to bless our great city um in

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which uh so many people reside. And God,

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we know there are many needs uh in a

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city of our size. So God, I just pray

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that you would give um strength to those

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that lead and have them lead lead uh

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lead us well. We love you. We praise

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you. It's in your name we pray.

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>> Amen.

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>> Would you join me in the pledge of

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allegiance?

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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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I feel not

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always

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feels

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>> funny. It does. Okay. First item on our

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agenda is the opportunity for community

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comments. Uh this item is reserved to

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receive comments from the community for

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concerns whether or not they're on the

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current agenda. Community is encouraged

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to speak before the mayor and city

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council. Asked to keep statements brief,

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time limited to no more than 3 minutes.

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Any questions are to be asked to the

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city staff, the council members, or the

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mayor prior to speaking to the full

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council. So that way concerns can be

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properly researched and perhaps answered

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away from the meeting. Comments are to

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be directed to the mayor and city

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council only. Uh for those who want to

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provide comment during the meeting,

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there is a yellow slip that's provided

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at the podium. Uh these are to be filled

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out ahead of time and then

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to the podium. And then we also ask that

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uh any side conversations be kept to a

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minimum. Uh thank you for helping us

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maintain a quiet atmosphere so that

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everyone in the meeting can follow the

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discussion. We have just one tonight.

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Rusty Ward, uh please come forward.

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» Thank you, Mayor.

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I understand block cameras are on the

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agenda or possibly on the agenda or in

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discussions at some point in certain

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circles.

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[clears throat] Like to address some of

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those concerns that uh people like me

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and others have. Um we'll call them um

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automated license plate readers, ALPRs,

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are becoming ubiquitous and our local

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law enforcement really wants them. The

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name is a bit of a misnomer. They

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function as vehicle recognition cameras,

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VRC's. They create a searchable database

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of any vehicle characteristic, only one

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of which is the license plate. They are

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also recording anything in its

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viewpoint, including pedestrians.

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They are a tool that has virtually no

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restrictions, regulations, or oversight.

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We need to prevent misuse and abuse of

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this tool. three main issues.

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Warrantless searches, departmental

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policies, and data retention.

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Searches are made at the discretion of

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the searching officer. There is no

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justification required to convince a

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disinterested judge to issue a warrant.

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I uh would like to go into

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the um negative publicity that the

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sheriff in uh Wello County has

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generated, but that's neither here nor

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there. Uh what I want to do is

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read a comment that I found online in

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another story about um these cameras,

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and it kind of sums it up very well.

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Traditional cameras installed since 9/11

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are closed circuit television, CCTV,

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feeds like uh local red light cameras

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that store data and isolated uh local

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municipal servers i.e. uh city

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departments and uh meetings like this.

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Uh they cannot easily be searched by any

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other city's video um or operators and

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files.

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Every flock camera deploys links into a

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unified cloud database. If a vehicle

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crosses state lines, its location can

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instantly be queried by cameras in other

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states via the integrated network,

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provided data sharing permissions are

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enabled.

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Furthermore, flock cameras are put on

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public property by a private company and

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then the information is sold to

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government entities and anyone else

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willing to pay for it. That's why they

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are so controversial.

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The state cannot violate your

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constitutionally protected rights. So

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this is an end around that pesky

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constitution.

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Cities and law enforcement agencies are

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installing FL cameras alongside existing

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traffic cameras because traditional

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highway infrastructure is technically

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incapable of generating actionable

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criminal leads in real time.

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The bottom line is flatout cameras are

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basically fingerprinting your car in

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real time as you drive and then

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recording all of your movements and

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selling that information.

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officials. One is a US house rep in uh

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Indiana uh Marlon Studsman who was uh

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driving his wife's car home and had an

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officer follow him into his driveway.

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You bet. Uh, according to the officer,

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his registration had expired.

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Um, and I'll close with a quote from

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Benjamin Franklin.

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I don't think anybody in this room would

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like to compare intellects with him,

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including myself.

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Those who would give up essential

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liberty to purchase a little temporary

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safety, deserve neither liberty nor

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safety.

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>> Thank you, Rosie.

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consent agenda. These are all items that

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are routine in nature. Uh they're voted

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on in single uh motion and um I wanted

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to draw attention to item F, which is a

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motion appointing Ro Mich Relle Holly to

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the Arts and Culture Commission. Item H

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is a resolution rescheduling a public

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hearing on the vacation and sale of a

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103.4 ft by 16 1/2 ft north south valley

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adj uh to 608 C Avenue West. Uh item J

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is a resolution scheduling a time for a

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public hearing on the proposition of

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entering into a lease and maintenance

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agreement for the copy machine for the

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police department. That's on September

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8th. And item K is a resolution

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scheduling a public hearing for

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September 21st. Uh this is to consider

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levying a special assessment against

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private property for re uh weed cutting.

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consent agenda.

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>> Okay. Any discussion?

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Roll call, please.

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>> Caliguri,

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>> Dross,

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>> Homeberg,

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>> Ibrahim,

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>> Okay, that passes. Getting into the

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regular agenda. Uh item A is to consider

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well I guess I need to um

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need to mention the vacancies we have on

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our various boards and commissions. Uh

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the airport commission has one vacancy

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for a term ending in December of 2028.

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The building code board of appeals a

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vacancy for an ex official member. Uh

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planning and zoning commission has one

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vacancy for a term ending in April of

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2027 and another vacancy for a term

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ending in April of 2030. Uh the Arts and

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Culture Commission, we have three

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vacancies, three for a term ending

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December 31st of 2026. And the Historic

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Preservation Commission, one vacancy,

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it's for a term ending in December of

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2028.

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Getting into the regular agenda, first

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up is a consider a resolution levying a

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special assessment against private

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property for uh the cutting and removal

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of weeds by the city of Oscaloosa. Um

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and let's see here. Um, certified

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notices were sent to each property

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owner. A notice was published in the

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Oscaloosa Herald and if approved, the

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property owner has 30 days from time of

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filing with Mahask County Treasurer to

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pay for the weed cutting in the city

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clerk's office. After the 30 days, it's

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assessed to their property taxes with a

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payment schedule at 9% interest. So,

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I'll open the public hearing. Is there

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anyone who' like?

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Seeing none, I'll close the public

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hearing. Do I have a motion of support

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for uh this resolution?

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>> So move.

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>> Okay. Any discussion?

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>> So the north I know I know uh chief is

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on vacation. The railroad didn't we I

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>> We've had that one before. Correct.

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>> Okay. Thank you.

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>> Roll call, please.

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>> Palerie,

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>> yes.

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>> Drossst,

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>> yes.

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>> Hermson,

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>> yes.

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>> Homeberg,

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>> yes.

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>> Ibrahim,

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>> yes.

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>> Sword,

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>> yes.

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>> Almond,

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>> yes.

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>> Okay, that passes. Item B, this is to

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consider a request for the vacation and

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sale of a 120 ft x 16 1/2 ft north south

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alley. It's adjacent to 1106 1st Avenue

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West.

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Uh, this the vacay request came from

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Dustin Lanfair, owner of the property

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located there. Uh the property owner has

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listed his reason for the request to

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vacate the alley adjacent to his

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property as to quote make private

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driveways for 11:06 and one excuse me

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1110 1st Avenue West cut out speeding

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traffic and make the area safer for

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children unquote. Uh the alley was once

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attached and the he mentions as well the

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alley was once attached to 1106 property

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per contract. Uh the subject alley is

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located in an R2 zoning district.

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Planning and zoning considered the

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request at their meeting on August 4th. They did re recommend

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denying the alley vacate by a vote of

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one approving and four denying. Uh staff

317
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conducted a survey of the property

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owners and utility companies that have

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direct access to the alley. Uh 17

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neighboring neighbor property owners

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were surveyed. 12 responses received. Of

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those responses, five were opposed,

323
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stating they used the alley to access

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their properties. Five were not opposed

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and two were interested in purchasing

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their portion. So, at this time of

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writing the memo, three utility

328
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companies have responded and none of

329
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Yeah. none of which have infrastructure

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located through this alley uh that would

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require an access easement. And so, this

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does require a public hearing. So, I'll

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open the public hearing if anyone would

334
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like to speak to this.

335
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>> Yes, sir.

336
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Uh name and address please.

337
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>> Dustin

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West yeah the whole purpose of us want

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to purchase

340
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uh it's become a racetrack. That's kind

341
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of the thing

342
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trying to cut down on that. Uh

343
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they're at 11:05 Second Avenue West. We

344
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get a lot of traffic there. That's an

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abandoned house. They're going to 1023.

346
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Um

347
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I don't know what's going on there, but

348
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yeah, come through both ends of the the

349
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alley. Um for some reason, you know,

350
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it's a neighborhood, but it's it's a

351
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racetrack anymore. So, that's kind of

352
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our reason. We just like turn it into a

353
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private driveway

354
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uh between the two of us. So, that's

355
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kind of our thing.

356
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So,

357
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Thank you.

358
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» Anyone else?

359
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» Seeing none, I'll close the public

360
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hearing. Um, council members, do we have

361
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a motion?

362
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>> Moved.

363
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>> Has to

364
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purchase vacate.

365
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>> Vacate.

366
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>> Okay. So, uh, the the the recommendation

367
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is to deny.

368
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And so, is the motion to vacate or to

369
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deny?

370
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>> To deny. Sorry.

371
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>> Okay. So, that's our motion. Do we have

372
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a second?

373
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>> I'll second.

374
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>> Okay, that opens up the discussion.

375
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>> I guess the only thing I would question,

376
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Dustin, and I know the ER

377
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work too. um with having five opposed

378
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and five again I'm assuming quite a few

379
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people use the sally debt to right

380
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>> access their garage correct

381
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>> yeah when we were at planning and zoning

382
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128 and 122 were there and and we were

383
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kind of the hot topic at at planning and

384
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zoning uh we was the longest discussion

385
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there uh yeah they were the two that showed up and talked kind of in

386
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length about that um their biggest thing

387
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was going from the other end. Uh the

388
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alley washes out quite a bit. Uh that's

389
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why they don't use that. Uh and then

390
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them backing a trailer in. Uh come from

391
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the other direction, they have a hard

392
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time getting their trailer in. So they

393
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come in from our our other way. Uh, and

394
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then they said in the winter, um, I

395
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guess kind of in the corner there where

396
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the alley meets, uh, South M, there's

397
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some ice buildup and whatnot. Um, so

398
00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,040
that was kind of their thing was why

399
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they didn't, you know,

400
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want to block off our end, I guess, is

401
00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,519
was their big reasons. Uh, you know,

402
00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:58,399
they didn't want it shut off. So,

403
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um, yeah.

404
00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,360
>> And the reason I'm to let you imposing

405
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because I see there was a lot of people

406
00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,079
that use that alley.

407
00:15:06,079 --> 00:15:07,519
>> I don't know the whole story,

408
00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:08,399
>> right?

409
00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:09,040
>> So,

410
00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,839
>> Yep.

411
00:15:09,839 --> 00:15:11,040
>> But you mentioned earlier was that

412
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people use it as a racetrack.

413
00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,440
>> Yeah, it's for some reason people come

414
00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,240
flying down through there. Uh, my garage

415
00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,760
has been hit twice and then my

416
00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,000
daughter's kind of there on the the

417
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corner. Uh I don't know if the pictures

418
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show it or not, but there's yellow uh

419
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kind of

420
00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,639
stakes out there or whatever markers. Um

421
00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:35,360
that's to keep cars away from her

422
00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,480
garage. Uh the alley kept creeping in.

423
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,720
Yeah, there there's actually three of

424
00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,240
them. Uh it's kind of [cough] hard to

425
00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,639
see in the picture, but uh yeah, there

426
00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:47,920
you go. Um the alley kept creeping to

427
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her garage, and her garage has been hit

428
00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,240
as well. So that's the point of those.

429
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And that was kind of the reason why we

430
00:15:55,199 --> 00:15:57,440
wanted, you know, wanted that portion

431
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for the driveway and that sort of thing.

432
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So yeah,

433
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>> Murphy question just generally in the

434
00:16:05,839 --> 00:16:08,639
city alleys. Is there anything codewise

435
00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:11,440
or general practice of deadend alleys?

436
00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,949
Because I mean that that's what I

437
00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:22,399
» Yeah. Uh, so generally speaking, I if I remember correctly, the code calls

438
00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:24,160
for alleys to essentially all be one

439
00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,720
way. You're only supposed to navigate

440
00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,440
alley in a specific direction. I

441
00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,880
apologize. I don't recall if that's

442
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,880
generally east west or north south

443
00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,040
specifically for each one, but I would

444
00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,279
say generally speaking, a dead end alley

445
00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:39,759
would contradictory to that part of the

446
00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:42,880
code. Um, this particular alley might

447
00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,040
may have a challenge depending on which

448
00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:55,910
directions that is, but either way, the rest of it is that one way.

449
00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,839
» Is there anything that we can do to slow

450
00:16:57,839 --> 00:17:02,000
the traffic down? I mean, there

451
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,079
I I guess I'm trying to help. I'm trying

452
00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:05,360
to help both. Right.

453
00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:06,799
>> Cuz I I know like I said I've used that

454
00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:08,480
alley too cuz I've had in the back and

455
00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,160
there I just

456
00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:10,720
>> Yeah.

457
00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,240
>> And that was kind of the big thing in

458
00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,079
planning and zoning too, you know, was

459
00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:16,640
the neighbors that came. Uh that was

460
00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:22,319
their big issue too was, you know, the traffic coming through the the

461
00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:24,160
neighbors using it. Not a big deal. It's

462
00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,000
the you know the race cars coming

463
00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,400
through there. You know, that was the thing they had a problem with and

464
00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,559
>> and uh and that sort of thing. And then

465
00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:37,679
like I said with it washing out which we

466
00:17:37,679 --> 00:17:39,360
don't go down the other end of the

467
00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,360
alley. We

468
00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:44,240
maintain ours and we you know take the

469
00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,000
shortest path so we don't ever go

470
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,919
through the other end. We we don't have

471
00:17:47,919 --> 00:17:48,720
any

472
00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,000
>> way alley access.

473
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I mean, I'm just trying to slow down the

474
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>> uh I'm not sure if uh it would be

475
00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,280
appropriate to put an alley access for

476
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,440
residents only just because that's it is

477
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,679
public right away. So, we can't really

478
00:18:05,679 --> 00:18:07,600
necessarily state that it's specifically

479
00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,919
for the residents. We could post a speed

480
00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:12,320
limit sign on it. The alleys do have a a

481
00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,559
speed limit throughout town by code. I

482
00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:16,160
believe it's 15 miles per hour, but I'd

483
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,360
have to be sure about that. And

484
00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:21,520
sometimes posting a speed limit sign can

485
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,000
help people have at least some idea of

486
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,480
what speed they should be traveling. It

487
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,320
could be that some people are traveling

488
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,520
quickly because they just don't have any

489
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,240
concept of this is the approximate speed

490
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,280
I should be driving here. Um, as far as

491
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,960
putting actual speed controls with it

492
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,720
being gravel, it's it's pretty difficult

493
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,720
to put any kind of speed bump or any any

494
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,520
kind control like that on it. I can

495
00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,760
certainly try and do more research, but

496
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,720
um the the short term, the easiest thing

497
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,039
I could think of to do is is to post a

498
00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:52,880
speed limit on the alley, which

499
00:18:52,880 --> 00:19:03,669
typically we would do, but

500
00:19:03,679 --> 00:19:07,039
would close it off if you were able to

501
00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:08,000
purchase it,

502
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,400
>> right? Uh we haven't talked a whole lot

503
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:15,039
about it, but um so the property pin is

504
00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:16,559
just

505
00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:19,840
uh to the be the east of that stake

506
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,000
right there. Uh we talked about, you

507
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,840
know, putting a gate across there or

508
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,280
something like that. I mean, we don't

509
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,799
have a a definite,

510
00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:32,400
you know, plan for that, but um yeah, we

511
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,240
talked something like that.

512
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,000
>> Your thoughts were some kind of physical

513
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,320
barrier, though? something like that. Uh

514
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,240
we don't have you know a a set in stone

515
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:50,559
plan you know for that. Um yeah um yeah

516
00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:52,720
so

517
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,480
yeah and the utilities that you see

518
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,360
there mediacom and uh uh whatever it is

519
00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:02,240
now it's quest whatever they go by lumen

520
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,240
I think is is what it is or the

521
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,400
utilities that are on the the poles

522
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,143
there.

523
00:20:09,143 --> 00:20:10,000
[clears throat]

524
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,510
Um, yeah.

525
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,280
» The folks that are driving up and down

526
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,480
the alley, are they all residents or

527
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,559
>> not all of them? Um,

528
00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:24,320
>> related somehow to the folks that live

529
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,000
there or any guesses?

530
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,520
>> I I don't know. Um, one gentleman that I

531
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,039
stopped, we were cleaning the garage

532
00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:32,799
out. It's probably been a couple months

533
00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:36,240
ago. Um I have no idea where he come

534
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,919
from, but um I was fortunate enough to

535
00:20:39,919 --> 00:20:43,360
stop him and

536
00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:46,960
somewhat polite, you know. Um and I just

537
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,159
told him, you know, this isn't a

538
00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:51,120
racetrack, you know, and and

539
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,679
uh I have a six-year-old grandson, you

540
00:20:53,679 --> 00:20:55,840
know, and

541
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,679
yeah, it's it's not a racetrack, you

542
00:20:57,679 --> 00:20:59,440
know. I don't want him getting hurt or

543
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:07,679
anyone else uh for that matter. Um and he did, you know, we we have cameras

544
00:21:07,679 --> 00:21:10,559
on uh both houses and and we could see

545
00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:12,240
him coming through there and and that

546
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,559
day I was fortunate enough to catch him.

547
00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:19,120
Uh and yeah, so um but no, not all of

548
00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:22,159
them are residents. Um

549
00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:24,080
some of the residents are pretty decent.

550
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,640
Um, you know, the ones that came to the

551
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,960
meeting, the planning zoning, uh,

552
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,480
meeting,

553
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,760
I don't have any problem with them.

554
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,400
They're, you know, they go through,

555
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,840
they're great. They're they're good. Um,

556
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,960
couple of the other ones, yeah, they're

557
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,280
not so great, you know. Uh, and yeah,

558
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,880
then people I have no idea where they

559
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,240
come from. Um, I lived there 22 years,

560
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,799
so I kind of know, you know, you know

561
00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:52,720
your neighbors by now. you know, uh,

562
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,679
what they drive and and you know, and

563
00:21:55,679 --> 00:21:57,280
stuff like that. So,

564
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,039
>> I guess my only other thought you guys

565
00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:02,159
would be that narrow. So, if you were to

566
00:22:02,159 --> 00:22:06,710
shut it off,

567
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,230
» right,

568
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,720
» you're driving somebody. That's my only

569
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,600
other

570
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,200
>> concern if those people are accessing

571
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,799
that alley for their

572
00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:18,480
>> Some of them have garages back there.

573
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,000
>> Yeah.

574
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,039
Except you're going to have to turn

575
00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:22,720
around. Not an idea. That's I mean I'm

576
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,320
just

577
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,440
>> I don't know if there really are

578
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,760
garages.

579
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,919
>> Yeah. Yeah. The ones with the garages

580
00:22:29,919 --> 00:22:33,360
are all, you know, down at the other end

581
00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:36,080
where the other access is and stuff like

582
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,360
that. Our our garages, you know, face

583
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:43,600
the other the other direction. But um

584
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,510
yeah.

585
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:56,870
I'm

586
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,280
» curious just to see if maybe Ben or Sean

587
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,840
has any extra perspective to share on on

588
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,400
this. Not that you have to, but just if

589
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,480
you do.

590
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,520
>> The way [clears throat] that's designed,

591
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,960
I mean, we're through there all the

592
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,400
time. We don't necessarily use the

593
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,400
gravel, but even just seeing how it's

594
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,240
rounded like that, it almost begs for

595
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,200
somebody to hit a little faster than

596
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,440
normal but instead of a right angle.

597
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,880
>> So, I don't know if it was originally

598
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,799
like that or if it just evolved into

599
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:24,720
that over time. As you said, you put the

600
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,240
yellow posts up.

601
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,559
>> So, that's funny you say that. Many

602
00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:33,760
years ago, that went straight on. Um, so

603
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,120
there's another property owner that

604
00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,720
lives on down First Avenue. There's a

605
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,840
duplex there. Originally that alley went

606
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,760
straight through there and that got

607
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,159
vacated many many years ago. Uh and then

608
00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:48,240
somewhere along the line then that made

609
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,640
the turn there. But it was a a straight

610
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,240
through alley at some point. Um I think

611
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,360
own that duplex.

612
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:56,400
>> I know what you're talking about.

613
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,960
>> Yeah. Um, so that was a straight through

614
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,600
uh there's part of a garage built on

615
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,799
this uh thing now, but uh and part of my

616
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:08,240
garage is is kind of where the old alley

617
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,799
used to go. But uh yeah, so to your

618
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:13,120
point, yeah, it used to go straight

619
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,600
through years and years ago. So about

620
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,559
where that maroon vehicle is, give or

621
00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:21,279
take a little bit, the alley used to go

622
00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:23,039
>> straight through.

623
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:24,320
>> Yes. Yeah.

624
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,480
>> Um, yeah, because if you look at the

625
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,360
duplex property, it's got a weird

626
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:30,320
>> Yeah.

627
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,279
>> uh kind of little attachment that goes

628
00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:36,960
with it that used to be this uh alley

629
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,120
years ago. Uh, and then it would dump

630
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:45,350
out to South Eye.

631
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:46,880
» And one of the things that I would add,

632
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,240
and I I mentioned this at the meeting

633
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,080
because there was some conversation by

634
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,679
P&Z commissioners as well. Is there

635
00:24:51,679 --> 00:24:53,840
anything that we can do to try to help

636
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,360
them in the situation that they're

637
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,880
dealing with? Um, as as I had suggested,

638
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,440
um, anything that they can do to narrow

639
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,760
up that corridor to make it less

640
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,520
comfortable for people to drive fast

641
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,120
through there. And one of the biggest or

642
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:08,720
most effective ways would be to park

643
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,279
vehicles next to that route. Um,

644
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:12,640
obviously you're putting your vehicle at

645
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,080
risk if people are speeding, but that

646
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,679
could be an opportunity if anybody needs

647
00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:17,679
some extra parking. You could go in the

648
00:25:17,679 --> 00:25:19,600
back or along that alley and maybe try

649
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,400
to make it less comfortable. Um, but I

650
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,760
think that's a great idea that Chief

651
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,520
Bakey brought up. And I was thinking

652
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,440
something similar as well with gravel

653
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,440
alleys. They don't stay in place. They

654
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,440
tend to

655
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,159
>> and and they tend to get get out of the

656
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:35,760
area that's actually platted for that.

657
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,120
Maybe you could bring up the map as

658
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,960
well. they tend to get out of the area

659
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,799
that's platted and you can see that

660
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:43,039
that's essentially a right angle, but

661
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:44,559
there may have been some encroachment.

662
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:46,000
So I I wonder if there could be an

663
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,400
effort perhaps by the property owners to

664
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,279
relocate, regrade, get that gravel back

665
00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:53,200
to within the platted right ofway

666
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,279
itself, make it more of a right angle,

667
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,919
and if that reducing that that curve or

668
00:25:57,919 --> 00:25:59,440
eliminating that curve could help people

669
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,190
slow down as well.

670
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,480
» Yeah. And

671
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,200
>> make it make it more of a sharp like

672
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,159
more of a sharp a sharp turn. And

673
00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:11,440
>> I don't know if you were joking or not.

674
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,320
>> No, you can.

675
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,679
>> So So he mentioned you could put

676
00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:16,240
boulders out there and I have

677
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,039
>> you can up landscaping features

678
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:22,080
>> or something that that could could help

679
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,000
keep people away.

680
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:32,968
>> Put a big guard rail.

681
00:26:32,978 --> 00:26:34,080
[laughter]

682
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,720
>> Keep it on private property.

683
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,440
on the other end by M Street. Those two

684
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,799
houses on the end, I remember those were

685
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:44,480
moved there.

686
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,760
>> Yeah. So, the 1214 was moved there and

687
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,679
1212 was a habitat house. It was

688
00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:50,720
actually built.

689
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,440
>> Yeah.

690
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,039
>> I think we did some plumbing in that

691
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:54,880
area, too. I think

692
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,080
>> Yeah. Uh 1214 um I don't remember if the

693
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,440
sewer or something went through there,

694
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,520
but yeah. Um there was some it was moved

695
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,520
uh more to the west.

696
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,149
>> Yeah.

697
00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:10,400
U I think to make you know to make room

698
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,279
to build

699
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:13,200
>> why it's causing issues there at that

700
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,279
>> that could be because those two lots set

701
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:21,190
vacant for uh many many years

702
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,200
» and then I think Mid American I think

703
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,600
owns the that other vacant lot just to

704
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:31,350
the south there I think. Yeah.

705
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,840
Any further comments from council,

706
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,360
questions,

707
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:38,080
discussion?

708
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,559
There's a motion to deny.

709
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,720
>> Roll call, please.

710
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,279
>> Yes.

711
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:44,000
>> Hmson,

712
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,480
>> yes.

713
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,679
>> Holberg,

714
00:27:45,679 --> 00:27:46,400
>> yes.

715
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,200
>> Ibrahim,

716
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,840
>> yes.

717
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,799
>> Thor,

718
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:49,440
>> yes.

719
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,240
>> Almond,

720
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,320
>> yes.

721
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,600
>> Okay, the denial passes.

722
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,880
Item C, consider a resolution for the

723
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,240
vacation and sale of a 240 foot by 16

724
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,960
1/2 ft north south and a 256 1/2x 16 1/2

725
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520
east west alleys uh in the fourth block

726
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,240
of houses edition.

727
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,240
Uh the vacay request came from Elliot

728
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,720
and Kristen Sass. They're the owners of

729
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,840
the property at 7074th Avenue East for

730
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,399
the alleys that I mentioned. Uh property

731
00:28:22,399 --> 00:28:23,919
owners have listed the reason for the

732
00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:25,840
request to vacate the alleys adjacent to

733
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,480
the property as quote acquisition would

734
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,279
restrict access to legitimate users to

735
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:33,440
improve safety and alley maintenance

736
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,000
accountability. Ongoing safety concerns

737
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,679
of excessive speeding and mistreatment

738
00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:40,080
from non neighboring users. Purchase

739
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,840
preserves and guarantees full and

740
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,520
continuous access and easement rights

741
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,919
for the garage and drive associated with

742
00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:48,159
709 property off of the north south

743
00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:49,760
alley.

744
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,880
Uh subject alley is in an R2 district.

745
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,120
Uh staff recommend the city also

746
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,720
consider vacating and selling the

747
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,640
remaining alleyways in that fourth block

748
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,200
of houses addition uh to interested

749
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,360
property owners.

750
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,679
So PNZ considered this request at their

751
00:29:05,679 --> 00:29:07,600
meeting on August 4th recommended

752
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,080
approving the alley vacate by five

753
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,960
approved zero deny. Uh staff conducted a

754
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,480
survey of the property owners and

755
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,240
utility companies that have access to

756
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,559
it. Seven of the property owners

757
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,960
surveyed, six responded, three

758
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,799
interested in buying adjacent sections

759
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:24,399
of the alley, and the rest were not

760
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:26,640
opposed. At the time of writing the

761
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,880
memo, two utility companies responded,

762
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,520
both having arterial, excuse me, aerial

763
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:37,990
infrastructure on poles located.

764
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,360
» And additionally, there's a private

765
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,960
sewer service that runs through the west

766
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,159
half of the east west alley. Uh, so I'll

767
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:45,679
open the public hearing. Is there anyone

768
00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:50,549
who would like to speak to this?

769
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:51,919
Seeing none, I'll close the public

770
00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:53,840
hearing. Uh, do we have a motion of

771
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,440
support?

772
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,389
So, move

773
00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:02,320
discussion.

774
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,545
>> Can someone help me understand why

775
00:30:04,545 --> 00:30:05,600
[clears throat] this one was approved

776
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,159
and the other one was not? Other than I

777
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:10,960
know there's fewer property owners here.

778
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,120
Are there more people willing to

779
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,679
>> purchase their piece or

780
00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:16,880
>> is that what it amounts to?

781
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,039
>> That's my read. More people are

782
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:20,640
interested in buying portions of the

783
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,230
alley.

784
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:23,679
[clears throat]

785
00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:24,880
>> Nobody was opposed.

786
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,760
>> Nobody opposed.

787
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,600
>> Nobody.

788
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,720
>> Right. Okay. That's what I thought too.

789
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,720
I just want to make sure.

790
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,520
So Andy, the other alley vacate and and

791
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,520
this is my observation of how the city

792
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,080
has handled alley vacates in general is

793
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,559
that if selling the alley creates a

794
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,720
situation someone has a rear garage or

795
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,320
some other access that they need to

796
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,919
their property that the alley provides

797
00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:47,840
that they can't get off of the street.

798
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,320
That's the most common situation that

799
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,706
we've denied alley vacates.

800
00:30:51,706 --> 00:30:53,279
[clears throat] So in in the previous

801
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,360
instance because the city has the

802
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,760
expectation that alleys are one way

803
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,520
cutting off the end kind of makes the

804
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,240
alley unusable. So in that situation it

805
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,880
was creating several garages which

806
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360
didn't have access effectively. In this

807
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,000
case all of the garages that are

808
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,640
accessing from this alley would gain

809
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,480
ownership of the land that they need to

810
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,799
get access that garage. So they they'd

811
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:18,720
be integrating what is essentially a

812
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,880
driveway for them already into their

813
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,720
property. Obviously, some of the other

814
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,240
property owners may or may not be using

815
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,559
the alley for through or for other

816
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,399
purposes that that may affect their

817
00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:30,720
overall usage, but they would still have

818
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,549
access to their garages.

819
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,360
» Thank you.

820
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,720
>> So, between 707 and 709, that be a they

821
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,720
both share

822
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,760
that section. Would that be a

823
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,399
>> wait

824
00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:52,320
>> an issue though? Like

825
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,159
>> so that that segment would be a little

826
00:31:54,159 --> 00:31:55,519
bit more of a challenge. Most likely

827
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:56,640
there would need to be an access

828
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,360
agreement and some kind of um it would

829
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,519
be a shared driveway. Um

830
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:08,000
so that eastern part that part may not

831
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,600
be desirable to include in the alley

832
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,000
vacate. Although again, technically

833
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,600
speaking, it does kind of create a

834
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,360
dead-end alley, but with it only serving

835
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,120
two properties, that that may not be as

836
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,240
large of a concern.

837
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,600
>> Am I reading the right? That's the big

838
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,120
requested area, though.

839
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,080
>> The

840
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,600
I'm sorry, I thought you were referring

841
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,159
to the eastern part. You're talking

842
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:34,320
about the southern part.

843
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,919
>> Yes. 709,

844
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:40,159
>> right? Uh, and I I believe the initial

845
00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:41,760
request said that they wanted to have

846
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,600
that as a shared driveway, which we've

847
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,360
done on an alley vacate at least once

848
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,039
before. It is it is certainly a concern.

849
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,039
It would be something that there would

850
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:52,720
need to be an easement in place as we're

851
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,279
selling it to to provide access to both

852
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:56,880
properties. But if they're both

853
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,720
agreeable to that situation, then

854
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:06,627
it's something we've done.

855
00:33:06,637 --> 00:33:08,320
» [clears throat]

856
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,710
>> The only other piece of that is

857
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,360
two two

858
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,919
um new

859
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:21,440
property owners become owners, but there

860
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,039
isn't anything really to restrict

861
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,760
anybody else from coming into it, right?

862
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,000
>> I mean, they can post it

863
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,919
>> or something along those lines, but

864
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:31,519
>> I I mean, it would be the same as any

865
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:32,960
other private property where it would be

866
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,519
up to them how they want I can relate to

867
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,320
that. When I bought my house, the

868
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,480
driveway was the easement from the

869
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,720
owner. And when I bought the house, they

870
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,559
asked me, "Do you want keep the easement

871
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:46,799
there?" And I said, "No." So that piece

872
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,120
went back to the original owner. I just

873
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,200
moved my driveway over on my property.

874
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:51,679
>> Mhm.

875
00:33:51,679 --> 00:33:52,960
>> And then what would happen here too if

876
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,763
somebody bought 709?

877
00:33:55,763 --> 00:33:56,480
[clears throat] You know,

878
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,200
>> that makes sense.

879
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,039
>> And Sean, you're right. I didn't I just

880
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,120
pulled up the application and it says

881
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,640
purchase will preserve and guarantee

882
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,399
full and continuous access and easement

883
00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:05,760
rights for the garage and drive

884
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,320
associated with the 709 property

885
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,159
>> and it's 707 that applied. So, so they

886
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,079
have obviously talked about

887
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:23,190
>> Kevin I was in favor [clears throat]

888
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,270
other comments or questions

889
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,159
we've got I want to clarify that the

890
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,040
motion uh is it to follow the

891
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,960
recommendation where staff is

892
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,639
recommending approving the request and

893
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,720
vacating the remaining alleyways. Yeah,

894
00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:40,879
my motion was to approve.

895
00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:43,520
>> Okay. And the second as well. Roll call,

896
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,000
please.

897
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,800
>> Hermson,

898
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,200
>> yes.

899
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:45,760
>> Holberg,

900
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,159
>> yes.

901
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:46,800
>> Ibrahim,

902
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,200
>> yes.

903
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:47,760
>> Sword,

904
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,159
>> yes.

905
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:48,639
>> Homeman,

906
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:48,960
>> yes.

907
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,679
>> Caligerie,

908
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:50,079
>> yes.

909
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:50,720
>> Dross,

910
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:51,200
>> yes.

911
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,560
>> Okay, that passes. Item D. This to

912
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,320
consider approval of liquor license

913
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,760
application. Um, so we've got a listing

914
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,720
here. Five of them are Casey's uh that

915
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,200
they are applying because of a change in

916
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,640
officers. Uh item B in there is a new

917
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,839
application for alcohol license at uh

918
00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:14,880
for 1775 Brewing Company uh also known

919
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,040
as the 1775's Oscaloosa outpost. And

920
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200
then item C is a renewal application for

921
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,950
a class C license.

922
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,000
Uh do we have a motion of support?

923
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,839
>> Okay.

924
00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:32,560
>> Any discussion?

925
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,440
>> Roll call, please.

926
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,160
>> Homeberg.

927
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,560
>> Yes.

928
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,200
>> Ibrahim.

929
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,240
>> Yes. Thord,

930
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:37,440
>> yes.

931
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,160
>> Caligerie,

932
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,560
>> yes.

933
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,280
>> Dross,

934
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:39,920
>> Stain.

935
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,720
>> Hermson,

936
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:41,440
>> yes.

937
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,560
>> Okay, that passes. Item E is to consider

938
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,560
a resolution authorizing an order

939
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,160
agreement and integrated payments

940
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,839
addendum with BSA Software LLC. This is

941
00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:54,240
for software services and uh that is for

942
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,880
building permits and inspections. Uh the

943
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,400
city's three-year contract with Cloud