1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,159 It's hard to find oil based 2 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:27,680 Cliff, you survived the first. >> What? I checked on your boy. He did 3 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,839 great. >> Wow. 4 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:33,519 » I was there at the dismissal. That's all I saw. 5 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,199 » All the kids were still smiling. No one was crying. So, we'll take that as a 6 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,440 win. >> All right. We're going to open. It's 7 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:43,279 August 24th with pledge and short devotion. 8 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:48,560 » I pledge Allegian to the flag of the United States of America and to the 9 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:52,800 republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 10 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:57,920 justice for all. >> Bow your heads. Dear Lord, thank you for 11 00:16:55,759 --> 00:17:02,480 the sunshine that you've sent to us. And we thank you so much for keeping all of 12 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:06,720 our employees safe over this last couple of weeks. And we pray that you be with 13 00:17:04,959 --> 00:17:11,691 them as they move forward to help serve our community to the best of their 14 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:11,691 ability. Amen. [clears throat] 15 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:25,360 So, have you had a chance to look at the agenda? 16 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:29,440 » Yeah, I need the executive session right at the beginning of the road report 17 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:32,240 » at the road report. >> Before Rudy said, 18 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:36,799 » well, right when I started. >> Okay. And then I do have one thing on 19 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:42,160 your old business, one of those grants you had me look at. And I'll add 20 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:47,919 something for cop batteries to fire once I find the email. 21 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:50,559 » Okay. Anything Brian? No. 22 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:53,760 » Okay. Have you had a chance to review the 23 00:17:51,919 --> 00:17:58,080 minutes from August 10th? >> Trusty Pos accept them as presented. 24 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:02,280 » Trusty Barry in second. >> All in favor? Hi. 25 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,280 » Hi. 26 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:19,280 We have a treasurer's report that spanned August 11th through August 24th. 27 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:23,120 Have you had a chance to review that? >> Trusty Barian moves to accept as 28 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,200 presented. >> Second. 29 00:18:23,679 --> 00:18:28,200 » All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. 30 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:42,320 » And we're going to move on to public speaks. First one on our list, Tyler 31 00:18:39,679 --> 00:18:48,080 Palm. >> This is uh something I wanted to address 32 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:52,400 to the trustees. Um so obviously I'm a member of the fire department and I live 33 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:57,440 in the village. Uh I received a phone call from State Farm. They were doing 34 00:18:54,240 --> 00:19:03,760 some auditing and updating of policies and I run emergency calls in my p in my 35 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:08,880 personal vehicle. So, in talking with our home policy and our our automotive 36 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:11,919 policies, I just said, "Yeah, just out of curiosity, I'm getting ready to put 37 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:19,200 some lights on my truck. They're going to cost $1,000. I just want to make sure 38 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:24,320 that my policy covers that." She said, uh, there's a endorsement that Safe Arm 39 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:29,440 has in that policy that basically says anything that happens bodily or injury, 40 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:35,760 if I'm on emergency call, they're not they don't cover. So, I just wanted to 41 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:40,320 ensure like that OAR, whoever our insurance is through the township, if 42 00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:45,120 we're on the side of a road, my truck gets totaled or I get hit in another 43 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:50,080 vehicle with somebody in it, my insurance basically said they are not 44 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:56,640 covering it. And I've never had anybody take a license plate or a VIN number 45 00:19:52,480 --> 00:20:00,720 from my vehicle. So, my concern is >> I can answer all. Go ahead. Go ahead. My 46 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,919 my concern is, you know, I just I don't want to [clears throat] I I want to 47 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,360 continue to help my where I live. >> Sure. 48 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,520 » And I just don't want to be in a position of liability. 49 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,360 » So, >> Ryan, can you can you respond to that? 50 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:16,559 » Yes, I can respond. It's the same thing as the way our road department is 51 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:20,880 » because I had this conversation numerous times over the year. Let's say you get 52 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:25,280 called out and I would say like Stewie in the past, if he got called out, he 53 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:30,080 might drive his personal vehicle. If he gets in an accident, the regular 54 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:34,400 insurance, in your case, you're saying they're not covering, but the regular 55 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:39,840 insurance gets build first. If that does not pay, a tarma pays everything else. 56 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:42,559 » Okay? That that's physical harm and and actual damages. 57 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:47,280 » It's [clears throat] everything. Okay? >> Because you got called out and you're an 58 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:50,240 employee and that's what it it's blanketed into fire department and road 59 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,360 department. >> I just wanted to ensure that and I just 60 00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:57,200 wanted that public. If you need something in writing, Tyler, for your 61 00:20:55,360 --> 00:21:02,960 own personal thing, let me ask them if they have it. But they they said that's 62 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:07,440 part of volunteer fire or full-time fire or road department if they get called 63 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:12,000 from home and they went straight to get a tree down or something happens. 64 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:15,120 » So, as far as apparatus goes, is there can he put apparatus on his truck and is 65 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,640 that covered as well? >> Well, anything that's on his truck is 66 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,080 covered. >> Okay. Yeah. I mean, it'd be like if you 67 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:26,640 I hate to say if you're driving a Porsche and it was an $80,000 or 68 00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:29,039 $100,000 vehicle and you were racing to go there, whether you had lights on it 69 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,799 or not, >> you were called out, you're going to 70 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:38,720 have some liability coverage on your personal, but anything 71 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:42,640 not covered rolls automatically into. >> So, Brian, let me ask you this. He's 72 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:47,840 putting the lights on because of his job. If he's driving personally doing 73 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,240 something and gets in an accident, is State 74 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,400 » It wouldn't have nothing to do with us. >> He's got to be in the line of duty. 75 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,120 » He has to be in the line. >> I'm saying, but State Farm telling you 76 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,960 they're not going to cover your lights. >> No, no, no. So, the lights are separate. 77 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,520 That's a whole other thing. But I was telling them I was divoting, hey, 78 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,159 there's going to be emergency lights on the vehicle at some point. I see. 79 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:08,320 » And and she was like, >> we don't cover. 80 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:12,640 » Okay. Okay. And I was like, "Okay, at the state, just so you guys are aware, 81 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,840 we have to go every year to the Ohio State Patrol and they inspect our 82 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:20,240 vehicles." So like I you get like a literally a bad sticker that says, "Hey, 83 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,520 your vehicle has been inspected. You can run hot." 84 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:27,280 » Like two calls emergency. >> But like when she was just like, "Yeah, 85 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,960 just so you're aware, if you were in the line, dude, we don't cover anything." 86 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Like nothing. I was like, "Well, that's a problem because I drive a $50,000 87 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,000 truck." Yeah. >> So, I just wanted to ensure publicly 88 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:42,720 that that is the case. >> Tyler, I'm going to say that we went 89 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:47,280 down this road many times. I've been here since 2013. That question came up 90 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,080 both in road and in the fire. >> Okay. 91 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:54,640 » And it actually came into zoning back in the day because if they're out on a like 92 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:59,679 she like Mary for example, they'll clock in and out, but she's out meeting uh 93 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:04,400 somebody at their house. anything like that happens that vehicle she's doing 94 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:11,200 duties of the township that's covered under autonom 95 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:16,320 » thank you Tyler great great question >> okay uh Heather 96 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:21,200 » all right I promise scenario make this short as possible um back in 21 just to 97 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:24,880 refresh our memory we had work done over there at the Holland Avenue property 98 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:29,440 where the culvert was placed to come out for the guys and replace culvert in our 99 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:33,280 driveway um just to catch you up to speed. Um, we've had some issues with 100 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,480 neighbors blocking the driveway again, parking vehicles in the line, you know, 101 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:40,000 on the right way out in the roadway, which been back and forth from the 102 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:43,120 sheriff's office dozens of times about where, you know, obviously you can park 103 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,960 in the road, but it's in the right way in such a manner that it's causing kind 104 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,080 of a hazard in the road because I know even like with the bigger trucks, the 105 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,440 trash trucks and everything are having a hard time when they deliberately leave 106 00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:58,880 stuff out there and they scream at us. And recently, you know, we installed um 107 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:02,880 some fence posts and so forth, which I have permission from Mary and obviously 108 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,080 Rodney come out to inspect the spot there, the culvert because that culvert 109 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,200 goes like underneath the ground alongside our driveway and it's kind of 110 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:12,880 in our backyard, which back there obviously is not really a township 111 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,760 thing, but because it's underneath the road, you know, out of due diligence, 112 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,440 you know, it affects the road that some of it did collapse back there. So, we've 113 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,880 been talking about it and I know we weren't going to do anything as far as I 114 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,559 safety being, you know, collectively with township too about replacing it as 115 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:30,080 far as underneath the road right now anyways, but to keep an eye on it 116 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:35,279 because of the heavier traffic that's on that road and it says Denon Street over 117 00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:38,320 there. So, we also installed a gate at the end of our driveway. We've had some 118 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:43,600 people keep showing up over there despite no trespassing signs and I put 119 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:48,799 up some no parking signs on the fence post now that are at the end of our 120 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:53,039 driveway there too because uh they demanded to keep parking in front of our 121 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:56,720 house too because we you know I've been trying to get some more stuff done. Um 122 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,000 the neighbor on the other side over there, he's getting ready to have this 123 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,360 ethic system replaced, which is another issue Mary's been working with me on 124 00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:07,120 trying to get through along with the health department because it was 125 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:10,799 leeching into our property there. And I think as last I heard um from the health 126 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:15,440 department, I know Mary and I talked about this before that uh one at least 127 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:19,120 one of one or two of those individuals involved in this has got I think they 128 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:23,919 got their grant approved. I think last I heard I know I can say say part about it 129 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:27,520 publicly. Um, so I was trying to leave, but they suggested to put the fence all 130 00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:30,880 the way down the side of our property, which we were going to wait a little bit 131 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,679 because I'm sure at some point do the measurements and everything, 132 00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:37,679 requirements, updates to those subject systems. And I know Mrs. Griffith knows 133 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:41,760 about that stuff. Um, you know, it's so many feet from property lines and all 134 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:46,480 all of those things and wells and so forth. But, um, alongside that side of 135 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:51,200 the property line, our ditch goes all the way back the back of the property. 136 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:54,559 So, we're working on safely, you know, how to deal with the a flooding issue 137 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:58,320 with the taller collapsing issue. And now that it's opened up, I had somebody 138 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:01,760 come out and open it up. Um, we're just trying to figure out what to do about 139 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,919 the vehicles that keep parking in the right way and how to continue to get 140 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,679 working on our property without having constant, you know, getting confronted 141 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:13,840 by people and getting yelled at. I mean, Rodney was out there one day, you know, 142 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:16,240 and to say it publicly that, you know, somebody come down and was bothering him 143 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:19,520 while he was out there at the end of the driveway. So he pulled the township 144 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,000 truck right at the end of the rightway right there at the end of the driveway. 145 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,919 But he was out he went to get out of the truck and somebody said something to him 146 00:26:23,679 --> 00:26:30,000 about it and he's on official township business because they were out there 147 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:33,279 right before I put the fence up. So we put it a little bit closer to the 148 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:37,039 roadway. It's behind where the the phone poles are. So we're still, you know, 149 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:39,600 obviously so many feet behind that. I didn't know if there was anything else 150 00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:43,679 we could do with that right away or whether we could put sign post up in 151 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:48,400 front of there even just like facing the road this way, you know, to to see if we 152 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,679 could put like no um no parking or something out there. My fear is though, 153 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,559 we do that and they're just going to park the opposite side of the street and 154 00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:58,799 still do the same thing. So, we're still have the same issues. And I know after 155 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:03,039 the road department come out there and they resurface the road um within eight 156 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:07,120 hours, so the same individuals parked at the same side of the street, there's 157 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:12,880 ruts and stuff already. started out here with all the extra rad, you know, it's 158 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,000 out here. >> A couple questions for you. So, the 159 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,200 neighbors that are parking in the street, are we are these business 160 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,400 vehicles? Are they personal vehicles? What what's parking in the street? 161 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:27,520 » There is both personal and business vehicles. One of the kids over there is 162 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:30,320 driving a a truck or a traffic company, I guess, now too, and it's being parked 163 00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:32,960 there. It's >> And is this is this the neighbor across 164 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,720 the street from you? >> I can point it out. Can you show us 165 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:41,360 which one? Sure. >> And I told Mary that we are collectively 166 00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:44,400 it's sitting at the attorney's office. I got to get it recorded. But since we 167 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:49,440 have two parcels right here, these two parcels right here, that's us. 168 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:53,279 » So yeah, be my guest. That's perfect. This probably pull it up a little. There 169 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,799 we go. >> This ditch, it kind of the stream and 170 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,799 all that stuff. It kind of comes out of the woods here. The bowling zone is that 171 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:04,480 still um and it kind of does a little jog through our property. And then that 172 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:08,960 culvert where it's opened up now is about right in this area here. Um and I 173 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:13,120 know Rodney has walked out there right before Sue, you know, retired and stuff 174 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,279 and uh and it goes underneath the road and then there's another opening clear 175 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:17,360 on the other side. >> So where is the fence that you've 176 00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:20,480 currently put up? >> Um we have fence post right uh at the 177 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,720 edge here. >> Okay. 178 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,880 » And a little bit. It's kind of like to mark the corners because we had some 179 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,000 issues with encroachment before. I had the surveyor come out a couple years ago 180 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,279 and then I had another one because we're in the process of having this combined. 181 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,600 » Yeah. So, it looks like your neighbor's driveway is on your line. 182 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:41,039 » Well, it it's close. It's actually down this way just a bit. So, we have it 183 00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:44,320 marked and there's >> a little bit of a fence. There's like 184 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,880 it's like a corner, you know, fence right now. We don't have 185 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,480 » So, the neighbors that are parking in front of your house every day, where do 186 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,480 they live? >> They are over here still and they're 187 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,440 parking all along this area, all along the driveway area. 188 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:59,200 » So, they're caddy corner. Yeah, it's caddyy cornered. So, I mean, there's 189 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,080 somewhat room to get out if I back out sometimes and whatever, but usually 190 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:05,200 there's some kind of confrontation that goes on when I try to go out. Even 191 00:29:03,919 --> 00:29:09,360 today, I was out there taking some measurements. I have a digital tool now. 192 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:12,320 I can sit in my car basically and take measurements because we're going to add 193 00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:15,840 to the fence because I don't have a date yet. Um, they're going to come back out 194 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,520 and add some more because we were going to put some a little bit farther back so 195 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,520 that, you know, we can get rid of that encroachment and everything else. Try to 196 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,760 » Okay. Yeah. There's no fence in front of your house, correct? 197 00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:28,399 » Not not entirely. >> And is there a ditch right on that right 198 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,880 where your finger is on that line? Is that a ditch? 199 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,000 » It's actually It's like a little like runoff. I mean, I guess 200 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:37,200 » it falls off the road, but you could park in it or No, 201 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,760 » you if you you know, you could pull up in there if you 202 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,679 » And are they parking in front of your house? 203 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,720 » Not technically here, but they threatened to as of today. They said, 204 00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:48,640 "Well, because I'm out here taking measurements, the lady started screaming 205 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,520 at me and you know, so uh the sheriff's office did come out. They said, "Well, 206 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:53,679 you know, come to town meeting, see if there's anything else we could do about 207 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,520 this because I know this has been ongoing. We're just trying to get 208 00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:01,440 measurements and stuff." There's uh gas flags, you know, gas company utility 209 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:07,039 flags still up in Mr. Barrett's yard here and so forth with ours because our 210 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:12,480 line goes here and also these areas. And both of ours, both utility lines, uh to 211 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,600 my knowledge, they're all older mines. And with if I don't know how much 212 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:19,360 anybody's been paying attention to the news lately, but there's been a lot of 213 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:23,039 uh explosions happening. Contractors been hitting old lines and stuff and 214 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,919 stuff that's not properly marked or something's happening. So, we're just 215 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:30,159 doing our due diligence just to make sure that nobody, you know, including 216 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:34,080 ourselves, um, you know, is out there. >> So, you got public gas there then? 217 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,440 » Uh, we still have gas going to both places. Yeah. I mean, there's still 218 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,240 » So, your neighbor is out there, >> your neighbor across the street, your 219 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:42,960 neighbor to your south there. >> Yeah. What do those neighbors say about 220 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,320 the parking on the street? >> Well, they they claim that they're 221 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:50,799 allowed to park all along, you know, the right way there in the roadway. But the 222 00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:55,279 problem that's happening most, you know, really is when you figure, you know, 223 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:59,039 being respectful of neighbors, you know, his mailbox is right here. So, the cars 224 00:30:57,679 --> 00:31:02,960 and stuff start right here at their mailbox and park as far back as they can 225 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,240 get. You mean pretty much the whole front of their property, which the law 226 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,320 shows basically you're allowed to park in the roadway. However, that road isn't 227 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,480 that wide and becomes an issue. >> So, are they [clears throat] parked are 228 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,799 they parked half on the road, half in the grass or they parked all 229 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,640 » some of it? >> Both. They do both. 230 00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:20,320 » Okay. >> And it's not like a full ditch there 231 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:23,600 with culvert pipe. And you know, I know there's been conversations about that 232 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,600 numerous years throughout the years about that whole street was supposed to 233 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,880 have culvert pipe and stuff, but as far as the culvert that is there is what 234 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:36,480 township widen this out for me and it's still within that 40t or smaller, you 235 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:39,600 know, space there. Um, but we were we widened this out in anyways just so I 236 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:43,360 could get in outside the truck and trailers and stuff. So when they park 237 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,880 out there, I end up having to jack knife the truck basically to get out of here. 238 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,080 And there's a giant hole, you know, with the culvert where it goes down in that 239 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,919 drain. So I mean, it makes that corner so tight that you can't just come out of 240 00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:56,880 there. And unfortunately, it's a dead end road. So right some congestion 241 00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,320 there. >> And would you say the cars come and come 242 00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:04,080 and go or the cars sit there all day? Well, most of the time, you know, if if 243 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:08,159 they're parked usually overnight, if they're working, that's one thing. But 244 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:11,039 they drive past usually when they're, you know, they don't have cars in the 245 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:14,240 driveway. They'll pull past the house, turn around in the other neighbor's 246 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,519 driveway, and then pull back up here. And now they come. I don't That's 247 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,960 » And they leave the driveway empty or is that full of cars, too? 248 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,399 » Sometimes it's empty completely. You know, usually, you know, just they just 249 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,840 do it on purpose and then other times it's full like through the weekend. Now, 250 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,279 they're doing it where there's at least six to seven vehicles there. where they 251 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:35,840 other people come over and it's all in the road and most of the time now the 252 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:40,960 truck and the other vehicle be overnight there as well which usually trash 253 00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:44,320 services is out there multiple times. We have at least two to three different 254 00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:47,679 trash services and it's a dead end road so they they've been backing up. I know 255 00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:49,519 I sent Mary a couple pictures. That's the beginning. I'm not going to show 256 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,880 them the whole >> Oh, the trash guy backs down. 257 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,399 » Yeah, they they back down the road at, you know, 3:00 or so in the morning. Um 258 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,679 there's a couple of them. I know Trussels is out there. Kibles is out 259 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,080 there. Do they back the whole way down the road? 260 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,679 » Sometimes. Yeah. >> On this side when those people park, are 261 00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:08,640 they parking pointing the right direction for that side of the road? 262 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,679 » Sometimes. Most of the time they are now cuz I yelled at him a few years ago and 263 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,760 I got yelled at for saying something to him. I gave him a warning. I said, 264 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,480 "Well, it's still against the law. You're not supposed to park facing 265 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:18,880 oncoming traffic. They're on the roadway at least, you know. I mean, it's one 266 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,519 thing if you're in the grass, >> face with traffic, right?" 267 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:26,000 » Yeah. >> So, what has Holland ever had any 268 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:29,600 parking spots along the road or is it what? 269 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:32,240 » No. No, we we talked about that before because we didn't want to be, you know, 270 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,120 discourageous to all the rest of the neighborhood because, you know, a lot of 271 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,960 times other people have gatherings and people want to spend time with their 272 00:33:36,159 --> 00:33:42,240 family too, but um these individuals are doing it all the time. So, 273 00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:47,840 » are these are these adults or kids? >> Yeah. Yeah. And they're uh kids are 274 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:52,880 older now when all this stuff started a few years ago. 275 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:56,799 So, but uh with that drainage being jammed 276 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,919 up, one of the guys over there, he got told not to be jamming it up and he 277 00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:03,360 contained that it wasn't our property, but yet it is and it's just been back 278 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,919 for it. We're just trying to eliminate some of that. 279 00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:09,440 » You know, if the house is is owner occupied or is it a rental? 280 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:14,240 » It's occupied. Owner occupied. >> Brian, what's at the end of the street 281 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:17,679 dead end? >> And maybe you can answer that. When you 282 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,599 plow that street, >> we turn around 283 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:22,639 » those trees. >> Where? 284 00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:29,679 » We turn around in the that last property right there at the very end has half the 285 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:34,960 driveway is concrete, the other half is >> it's on the on the west side right 286 00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:39,440 there. That house on the right, half of that is concrete, half of it's 287 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,599 gravel. We back into the gravel half to turn around. 288 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:48,800 Now, usually the gentleman up here, he parks in the road, and I know other 289 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:51,200 individuals sometimes they they have cars parked there, but they they've been 290 00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:54,879 like that for years, but they're not really blocking everyone else, you know, 291 00:34:53,359 --> 00:34:59,280 as far as trying to get in and out at the other end of the road. 292 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:02,640 » Um, you know, that that's our biggest concern. The congestion is if the trash 293 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,440 truck is struggling at 3:00 in the morning to get through there, then 294 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,880 that's kind of a concern for, you know, obviously police and fire as usual. I 295 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:13,920 mean, despite our disagreements as neighbors, um, you know, we don't want 296 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,200 to have a rolled over trash truck in front of our yard or the ditch there 297 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:21,280 because if they shove all the traffic over where it's it actually drops off 298 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:25,200 and Mr. Bear's property over here, it's actually deeper here than it is that 299 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,160 side. You know, if it shoves all the traffic over that side, then, you know, 300 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:31,599 literally you can't really park there because you'd be parked right in the, 301 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:36,480 you know, it's he's got like a swale of stuff in his front yard there. So, and 302 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:42,640 the drainage, you know, the pipe was verified that it is literally on our 303 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:46,000 property. So, um I decided to come to the meeting and say publicly like I am 304 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:48,880 allowed to be out there to work on it a little bit. I've had different 305 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,920 contractors come out to help try to figure out what to do and mitigate it. 306 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,720 We were going to dig it up as far as part of it to get rid of it, put in a 307 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,320 new pipe. We've talked about that before. You know, Rodney come out even 308 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:02,640 though they're only, you know, so far to the right away and then the rest of it 309 00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:06,560 was on us. But our concern is if we go to replace that as far as our property 310 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:10,400 is concerned. Once you get out here to the roadway, then you know once you 311 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,680 disturb that metal pipe out there, it's going to be crumbled up like it did in 312 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,560 the back, it's really thin. The whole bottom of that pipe and drainage 313 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:20,320 underneath and underneath the road's gone. So I've been able to get camera 314 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:24,480 down to be able to take pictures down in there. I mean it's the whole bottom of 315 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:28,800 it is gone. So eventually it will, you know, start tearing up the roadway. 316 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,680 There's been semiis and and all that stuff up and down a road. The neighbors 317 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:36,240 are getting some work done up the street and stuff too. So there's a lot of heavy 318 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,680 traffic on that road more more so than there used to be. So I don't know if 319 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:44,079 there's anything else we could do with the rightway. I mean other than I have, 320 00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:47,280 you know, just basically due to encroachment a little bit. I had fence 321 00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:50,400 posters put up there a little bit closer to the road. There's a gate out there 322 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,920 because other those individuals were pulling and out of our driveway turning 323 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:59,040 around and they do it multiple times a day. Um, and nobody else in the 324 00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:02,920 neighborhood but them seems to be doing that unfortunately. 325 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:10,320 » I don't know how wide what is it probably like 14 326 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,760 goes 15 from center. >> No, I mean the road actual road width is 327 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,040 it or bigger than 14? >> Um, 328 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:20,640 » I think it's 18 feet wide. >> Is it that wide? 329 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:23,440 » What's there? >> That's a wider one. There's 14s out 330 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:28,960 there. >> Two questions. Um, 331 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,640 does anybody park in that big Their driveway looks pretty pretty big here? 332 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,119 » Um, no, not your driveway. >> The people you're talking about. 333 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,640 » People you're talking about? >> Yeah, there's like usually six to seven 334 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,079 cars at least there pretty much every night. There's four to six of them. 335 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:45,200 They're all their their vehicles and the borrowed vehicle that the other kids 336 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,640 drive and now it's out in the road, too. She invites her, I guess, her boyfriend 337 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,040 over parks in the road, too. >> How many people are living in that 338 00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:54,400 house? >> Well, I mean, that's that's their 339 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:58,079 business. I'm saying that I have told not to, you know, [laughter] 340 00:37:55,599 --> 00:38:01,839 » the fire chief's worried. >> But that's my concern, you know, with 341 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:06,000 with health, you know, she the individuals live there, one of them has 342 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:10,240 some cancer issues. Mr. Derrick has cancer health concerns. I mean, we all 343 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:13,760 have some health issues going on. Um the my tenant here, she just had her heart 344 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,960 surgery as well. I mean, there's a lot of things that I would really recommend 345 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,960 having some kind of make sure that, you know, chief can get to our house. I 346 00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:24,079 mean, because everybody has permission, you know, for emergency purposes to use 347 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,160 the driveway. We I mean, I've widened this and they've got room in the back to 348 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,480 pull people. >> Is yours a dup a duplex? 349 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:32,160 » Yeah, that's that's duplex. Yes. >> Okay. 350 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,000 » Yeah. >> Yeah. The only thing I could see you 351 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:42,400 could do is it's pretty hard to put no parking, but I wonder if you couldn't do 352 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:46,560 like a like because most people park on the street aren't going to be there for 353 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:50,560 more than three hours. Put a time limit. We could do that on the whole township 354 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:54,960 technically because nobody should be parking permanently on 355 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:58,079 the street. You might park there for something, but you shouldn't be parking 356 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:01,599 there permanently. >> Yeah, that that's my concern too is I 357 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,359 mean if you have stuff in the driveway, if I parked out there, I have a crew pad 358 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:09,440 diesel pickup truck. I have two actually. Um and like we've talked about 359 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,160 before, if I parked any of my stuff out in the road for more than a couple 360 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:16,400 hours, somebody would scream at me and they would have done that already. Like 361 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:20,160 you said, if somebody comes over to visit or something, but they shouldn't 362 00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:24,079 be parking on a regular basis. >> Yeah. 363 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:27,760 » They need to be at that point, they need to be coming up with an idea to put in a 364 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:32,160 bigger parking lot in their front yard or wherever they want to put it, but 365 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:35,359 they need to get off the road. Uh >> yeah, sheriff's office have been out 366 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:40,480 there. I know we had some disagreements before, but since 21 to now versus all 367 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,440 the other altercations with those, you know, individuals and screaming at us, 368 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:47,760 they maintain they can park in the road and they can do all this, but I mean, 369 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,640 we're literally when we all have had to slow down. I mean, it's not like we're 370 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,000 supposed to be speeding on the road anyways. But with the mailbox being 371 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,839 right here, if there's a truck right there, these individuals have a hard 372 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:02,560 time, and I've got video of of this, too, but uh it makes it harder for 373 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:05,680 trucks to get between the mailbox, the vehicle parked there. There's just 374 00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:07,440 enough room to fit through there. I mean, I think that's getting a bit too 375 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:12,000 close. >> I wonder if we could just send all the 376 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:15,839 residents on that street and notice that parking on the street is for temporary 377 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,920 short term. >> I think you're going to have I think we 378 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:26,720 should do do some research to see if anybody else is doing this like a 379 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:30,400 a temp a set a time limit. If you send a letter, what they ain't going to abide 380 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:34,720 by it. They don't, you know, if they don't have a time, what's the where they 381 00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:38,800 don't know what the time of it is? >> Sheriff's office would probably say the 382 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:42,800 same thing as I don't know the rules. I don't know how 383 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:46,160 if we can actually post it like that. >> That's I mean, we I need to do some 384 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:50,720 research and see what's what all what all our options are. But 385 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:54,000 I I don't I don't think you're going to win a battle of saying no parking on the 386 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:58,079 road. personally, >> but but we we want to try and get it to 387 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,520 where they're not parking there permanently. 388 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,599 » Yeah. >> Every day or twice a week. 389 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:07,359 » I know once it comes into winter time and so for the guys wanting to plow and 390 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:11,440 stuff like that and and half the time they don't care attention to that until 391 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,240 there's actually like heavy snow or ice. By that time they're already out there 392 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:19,040 and they're still there, you know, and then you guys have to broadcast, hey, 393 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:22,079 you know, the snow effect. But if they knew ahead of time that they couldn't do 394 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,880 that all the time in the first place and that will kind of mitigate some of that 395 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:29,359 too. >> Is it a is it a problem? Is it is it 396 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,560 mainly at night or is it all day? >> It could be all day. Sometimes they 397 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:35,599 leave a vehicle out there. We used to just leave her vehicle on the roadway 398 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,440 with the driveway open all the time and now it's been an issue or been 399 00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:42,960 confronted. My mom still even, you know, different times of day she's got to go 400 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:46,000 to work. It's 3:00 4:00 in the morning and there's somebody out there and 401 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,839 there's people congregating out at the end of the driveway. so I can kind of 402 00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:53,200 sit out there. It's awful. Um, then I went to take out some stuff out of the 403 00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:57,119 mailbox. So, I got confronted and yelled at from across the street. So, same 404 00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,480 thing happened today. So, I can't even so much as finished. Like, I don't have 405 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:05,040 the fence all the way across the front either because we have phone poles kind 406 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:08,319 of over in this area. Uh, the little part of the fence is here. It's just 407 00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:13,839 kind of like a corner marker situation on this side of our driveway over here. 408 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:18,160 And the phone pole is here. And the gas line for our our property goes like kind 409 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,880 of right here in the middle. So, I was just trying to take some more 410 00:42:19,359 --> 00:42:24,079 measurements today between here and here and where the other how many feet from 411 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,760 the gas line it was from the pipe and stuff that's there in case we have to do 412 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:31,520 anything for future reference both in the right of way and behind it because 413 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,280 whoever is going to do it, they got to sit on the driveway with the equipment 414 00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:38,960 and be able to, you know, to use the excavators and stuff regardless of 415 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,480 whether we park in the roadway to fix anything right at the rightway or in our 416 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,720 driveway to fix, you know, the [snorts] stuff on our property by the rideway. I 417 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:50,960 mean, no matter how you go about it, you know, there's a ditch on the side of the 418 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,920 driveway. So, I mean, we have to there's they don't I don't think they understand 419 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:58,160 there's an amount of room that equipment needs to be able to to work, 420 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:02,160 » you know, too. So, I was just trying to take some measurements today, too. But, 421 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:07,440 we'll talk to the township and see if there's anything we can do. So, 422 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:11,440 I figure if I come up and publicly display what I was doing with our 423 00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:16,000 property, then maybe, you know, maybe the calm down a little bit. Um, 424 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,560 » well, let me do a little bit check and I I'll get back. But yeah, 425 00:43:17,839 --> 00:43:20,800 » okay. >> See what 426 00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:25,359 » that's pretty much. And I just to clarify for Mary's purposes when I 427 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:29,760 mentioned that cover too in the back. It's going back here behind the garage. 428 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:33,200 » That little little space we talked about. I know that it's posted on the 429 00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:36,079 website. We talked about that. There was a concern in the sheriff's office of one 430 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:38,480 day. Well, you got to have a permit. You got to talk to the township, but they 431 00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:43,040 didn't realize they've already talked to the township. And what little back here 432 00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:46,000 is really not it's not a giant pipe. It's a piece of pipe because our you 433 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,680 know when this floods back here it floods our bottom of our garage. It's a 434 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:54,000 little low line and the whole street you know comes down pretty much. 435 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:58,480 » You know our property here is a low spot and so is their house and you know all 436 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:03,599 that. So we're kind of in the middle of the road there. 437 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:07,200 So but I talked previously about putting that pipe in back here. It will be just 438 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,720 small. I'm going to join the other ones that's already there just to kind of 439 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,119 mitigate because I got this mud hole in this area over here. 440 00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:15,760 » And it's >> But you're trying to combine into one 441 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,760 parcel right now. >> Yeah. We're I have to all I have to do 442 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,119 now is just sign a new deed and have it recorded. 443 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,880 » Okay. >> That way if we have any other issues 444 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:28,640 with our ethnic as opposed to other property um because ours is located in 445 00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:32,000 the front, it gets rid of this boundary line down the middle kind of we get a 446 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:36,880 little more clearance. Our wells over here so it won't be too far. as far as 447 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:43,520 the setbacks and all the other things, it gets rid of that. So, that was our 448 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:47,040 purpose for doing it. So, I told her once uh once it's recorded and 449 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,880 everything, it's available online, but I got to bring the paperwork up and show 450 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:54,319 her once it's done. I'll have it for the download. 451 00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:59,680 That just gives you an idea why we did it. So, but they come out. There was a 452 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,319 missing uh pen back here. It was tampered with already. 453 00:45:01,906 --> 00:45:06,079 » [laughter] >> A couple weeks ago, we had the surveyors 454 00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:10,480 come out in the process of doing the, you know, survey again to to do that 455 00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:14,480 combining the the parcels, but this corner pin here was moved a little bit. 456 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:20,560 So, I talked to the sheriff's office about that, too. But, they did set a new 457 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:24,560 pin back there. So, was trying to keep people out of that because we had that 458 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,839 leash septic system stuff going into that and everything. We're trying to 459 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:31,760 keep it cleaned out, keep it open, and everything else so that way it doesn't 460 00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:36,160 flood anyone anymore. The water goes from back here across the street and 461 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,520 then to another opening on the other side of the street. So, 462 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,440 » okay, >> that's what we're what I'm working on at 463 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,720 that property for those that have to know for whatever reason besides 464 00:45:45,791 --> 00:45:50,480 [laughter] the township. 465 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,960 They said we'll talk to zoning. Well, I've been working with Yuri about this 466 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:59,920 for the last couple years, even since 21 when we widen that out, put the better 467 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:03,520 the polar to smash and replace it. We're still having some issues. 468 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,040 » Let us check into it. No promises, but um 469 00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:08,800 » Okay, >> we'll see what the law actually allows 470 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:12,440 us to do. >> Okay, perfect. 471 00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:20,400 » All right. And I don't see anyone else for public speaks, so we're going to 472 00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:25,119 move on to the fire report. Chief Okay. Uh, Mr. Barryian, I did uh text you a 473 00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:26,560 screenshot of that quote for the batteries. 474 00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:33,440 » I got it. >> Okay. Um, so 475 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:38,720 we're we're requesting to basically um order that combi tool with the donation 476 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:45,599 that we've received. Um, the combi tool will be placed on our ambulance. Uh that 477 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:51,440 will give our EMS crews, our that first respond is the ability to, 478 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:56,079 you know, pop open a door, uh get a victim out of the vehicle quickly. 479 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,720 » It's like the Jaws of Life. Is that what it is? 480 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:02,960 » It is. It's It's a It's a smaller version. Um 481 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:06,160 » it has It's called a Combi tool because it has the spreaders like the Jaws of 482 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,440 Life >> and it also has the hydraulic cutters. 483 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:14,480 » How is it powered? Um, battery operated. >> Okay. 484 00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:19,440 » Uh, so, uh, >> it comes with batteries. The 21,456 485 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:24,000 comes with everything you need. >> I believe it does come with one battery. 486 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:27,200 » Okay. Got it. 487 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:31,920 » For the for the condol. >> Okay. 488 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,240 » So, Brian, do you want to >> Where did the donated funds come? 489 00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:36,160 » Do you want to speak to Brian? Do you want me to speak to the donated funds or 490 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,640 do you want me >> You go ahead. 491 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,920 » I can speak. I kne I knew about it because you all told me and um 492 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:47,920 » this is Folultz. >> Yep. So, um so the Folultz family made a 493 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:52,640 donation to the fire department. Um Kathy um I hope this is okay to be 494 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:58,160 saying this because I was I did text Amy before we're talking about it out loud, 495 00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:02,000 but um the false family um asked Amy to come over and they she and Kathy chatted 496 00:48:00,319 --> 00:48:06,319 and they wanted to make a donation to the fire department or apparatus or 497 00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:09,680 whatever the fire department needed. Um, and it was the the value of what, Brian? 498 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:14,880 How much? >> $50,000. $50,000. 499 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,319 » It was a sizable donation. >> Yeah. 500 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,599 » Very nice. >> So, um, so yeah. 501 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:24,559 » Thank you, Mrs. >> Yes. Great. And kind of a fun little 502 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:27,280 story, the the check was sort of written not exactly right. So, when Brian tried 503 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,000 to put it in the bank, the bank wouldn't accept it. So, I said that I'd call 504 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,800 Kathy. And I called her. I'm like, Kathy, I'm really sorry. I obviously 505 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,040 approached her with, "Thank you. Thank you. Thank you." Of course. And I was 506 00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:37,359 like, "I'm really sorry. we're going to have to burden you with either getting 507 00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:39,839 another check or having you read it. She's like, I'm staying at Consumer Dash 508 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,119 Bank right now. >> So, she put me on speaker and the teller 509 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,359 was like, "Here's the check." [laughter] So, she crossed it out and wrote what 510 00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:48,559 she needed to and she's like, "All done." So, I talked to her for two 511 00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:52,160 minutes. I just happened to call her right when she was dead at the bank. So, 512 00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:55,520 it worked out. But, I obviously thanked her a ton and for all she's done for, 513 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:58,160 you know, for that donation, which is huge. And then I had an opportunity to 514 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,800 thank her for all the things she's done for our community. 515 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:04,880 » Did it go into your foundation? >> No, it was written to the written to the 516 00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:07,920 trust. written to the it's in the donation fund in the fire fund right 517 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:11,680 now. >> I'm in the process we just finished out 518 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:16,720 the um >> alternative budget which was August the 519 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:23,119 20th which then will be approved by the board uh Stark County sometime in the 520 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:28,480 first week of September. I've already submitted in the $50,000 521 00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:32,079 um request for an amended certificate because officially right now we can't 522 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:36,800 spend it yet. But once I get that amended certificate, then I'll go in 523 00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:41,440 front of you all to get uh approval to appropriate. 524 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:44,800 » Did we actually send them a a letter of thanks? A written 525 00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:46,000 » I've not I have not sent a letter of thanks. 526 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,480 » Yeah. >> Okay. We need to make sure 527 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:49,920 » we'll make sure the fire department does that. 528 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:54,400 » Okay. >> Yep. [clears throat] 529 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:58,800 » That's wonderful. And I think Amy and Tyler and Tom are 530 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,400 meeting about some of they have some ideas of things we could things we could 531 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,079 buy for the fire department that wouldn't be necessarily general budget. 532 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:10,720 You know, some kind of some wish list things that are hard to get, you know, 533 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,760 handled and having 50,000 work plan on is kind of a nice opportunity to get a 534 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,920 couple pieces of equipment. So >> very nice. 535 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:22,079 » Yeah, it's really great. So, um, real quick on Austin Miller, before 536 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:25,359 I make a resolution on that, do we, if a resignation for Austin Miller, do does 537 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,480 he owe us any time or money? >> He does not. 538 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:33,000 » Okay. All right. Um, do we need to read that resignation later or was it just a 539 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,000 verbal? 540 00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:39,200 Okay, that's fine. Trusty Varian moves to accept the resignation of Austin 541 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,440 Miller as of Monday, August 24th. >> Pure second. 542 00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:45,280 » All in favor? >> I. 543 00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:50,400 And then before we go to call volume, the cop battery, Brian, I texted you a 544 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:54,640 picture of what I was sent from Tom. >> I have a cop, I believe. 545 00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:59,440 » Oh, do you? Okay, great. Great. Um, so it looks like I can't remember what 546 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:06,240 we've done, and I I we've bought cop batteries before. I know that. Um, there 547 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:12,160 are two in this invoice for 515 a piece. So, it'll be $1,000,7160 548 00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:14,960 striker. Um, is this for the new ambulance, the old ambulance? What's the 549 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:19,359 which cod are you working on? >> It's for the um the batteries can be 550 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,160 used for both. >> Okay. 551 00:51:19,839 --> 00:51:24,640 » Both ambulances. >> Oh, thank you. 552 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:28,640 » And we need two. >> Yes. 553 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:32,800 » Okay. So, they can be used for both. All right. 554 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:39,040 » And then there's shipping of I believe $42 and some change. 555 00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:43,920 » It's on there. Okay. Ryan, are we okay to spend 1,100 bucks? All right. Trusty 556 00:51:41,359 --> 00:51:51,520 Barian moves to spend up to $1,100 to buy two cop batteries from Striker. 557 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:56,960 » Just a group of seconds. All in favor? I >> on that on that tool. 558 00:51:54,079 --> 00:52:00,240 How much is a second battery? No, not just to go back that 559 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:05,280 » the combi tool. >> There's a list because my idea is 560 00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:10,319 there's a whole bunch of tools that take that same battery. So, we're talking 561 00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:14,240 amongst officers and we're probably going to buy other things that take that 562 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:18,960 battery. And I'm even I talked to the chief when I worked for Nishan Township. 563 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:22,720 We went to Ace Hardware >> and they had the Milwaukee reps 564 00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:25,599 involved. It takes Milwaukee battery. >> Yep. 565 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:29,200 » They got the Milwaukee reps involved. Okay. We got a ton of free stuff because 566 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,240 of how much money we spent. >> Yeah. 567 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:34,720 » Yeah. So, >> so it takes an actual like branded 568 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:38,640 Milwaukee battery like your typical It's an XC 8.0. 0 or something. 569 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,240 » Okay. It's a big battery. >> Yeah. But other pieces of equipment that 570 00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:46,559 we're looking at like a ventilation fan takes that same battery. 571 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:49,359 » Scene lighting takes that same battery. >> It's a it's a industrial Milwaukee. 572 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,960 » Yes. >> Yeah. Okay. 573 00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:54,000 » And then you can't spend yet until Brian gets 574 00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:56,160 » Yes. >> Okay. 575 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:58,960 » Yeah. We got to appropriate it. >> Okay. 576 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:02,240 » Yeah. [clears throat] All that. >> And you said that would be probably 577 00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:08,400 first, second week of September. >> Yeah. What what happens, Tom? We just 578 00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:13,520 submitted the U alternative budget by a August 20th and then that goes in front 579 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:19,280 of the budget commission star county >> which they meet once a month. 580 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:23,280 » I've already put the 50,000 requests in, but I got a feeling they'll approve that 581 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:28,000 budget and then come back and do an amended certificate. I might not get it 582 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:32,240 till October, but as long as I know it's coming verbally from them and talk to 583 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,119 them. Brian, do you want us to approve this now and then wait or you want to 584 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,000 wait till the funds are available then approve it? 585 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:42,720 » You should wait till the funds are available officially, but 586 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,839 » if you needed to order something that we're going to have to wait six months 587 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:49,040 or I don't know how quick they can get those. 588 00:53:46,319 --> 00:53:52,000 » Well, the team you team get together and decide what you're thinking on some 589 00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:53,359 other things, but and we'll we'll approve this when the funds are 590 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,880 available. >> Okay, 591 00:53:53,839 --> 00:53:59,760 » cool. Thank you. >> Great. 592 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:06,960 That's all I have for fire. Um, I I had one other thing. Uh, Jackie 593 00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:12,079 Wilson uh has applied to Stark State College uh to go to that same medic 594 00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:14,880 program that Summer's going to. >> Okay. 595 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:20,800 » Um, I was curious if there's enough in the training budget to send the second 596 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:25,040 uh member to medic school. She's on a waiting list. There's 597 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,760 » remind me the cost again. Is this something to do yet this year to be on 598 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:33,520 the same time frame? >> It would be in the same 599 00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:37,200 time frame. Um, yeah, she would start class in October of the summer. It was 600 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:42,480 17 >> 1700 total was for this semester was 601 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:48,319 1791. >> Okay. 602 00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:50,640 » And then uh the total was like 6300. >> It was like 6,000 something. 603 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,400 » Yes. >> Okay. 604 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:58,240 » But you pay by semester. >> You pay. Yeah. That's a That's a Brian 605 00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:02,559 Lowry question, >> right? 606 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,880 The bad guy. [laughter] >> The bad guy. 607 00:55:05,359 --> 00:55:11,440 » Well, she's on a wait list. I don't think he has to answer right now spot. 608 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,200 » Does she will she know? I mean, she'll know before it starts, right? 609 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,520 » Oh, absolutely. >> Yeah. 610 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:20,720 » Training unencumbered 3,306 right now. 611 00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:26,480 » Okay. But I haven't encumbered the first payment for um summer 612 00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:28,640 » summer which was around 17800. >> 1791. 613 00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:31,359 » So that gives you an idea where we are to the end of the year. 614 00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:33,359 » Okay. Let's see if she gets in and we'll >> all right 615 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,280 » move on it. Can we do that? >> Yes. Yes, absolutely. 616 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:39,040 » All right. >> Yeah. She'll know ahead of time because 617 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:40,319 there's some things she'll have to take care of. 618 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,720 » Okay. >> Before class even starts. Um, so she'll 619 00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:47,760 she'll get a you know she'll get notified. 620 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,440 » And then if we don't have the funds for it, is she able to go the next round? 621 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,920 Like we could so we sent Summer this time and send her the next time if we 622 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,440 don't have all the funds. >> Well, 623 00:55:54,240 --> 00:56:00,559 » is it like a >> we could do like a reimbursement? Maybe 624 00:55:57,359 --> 00:56:04,880 she could front the money and then when she finishes, when she passes, if she 625 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,920 passes, maybe reimburse her the the funds for for 626 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,799 » Let's see if she gets in. >> Yeah. 627 00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:12,000 » Okay. >> Sounds good. 628 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:17,280 » Yeah. Sounds good. Just want to look one other thing 629 00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:19,680 » because we would after the first year have another payment on summer. Correct. 630 00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:24,000 » Yes. >> Yeah. 631 00:56:20,799 --> 00:56:27,440 » But you start on the new budget which is um 632 00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:31,680 » but you need to think about what >> was 15,000 633 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:36,079 » for the whole year >> if you if there was somebody else 634 00:56:34,319 --> 00:56:38,400 needing to do something. So >> as far as training [snorts] goes. 635 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:43,839 » Yeah. because you're [clears throat] going to have a set amount and you if we 636 00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:47,040 normally have 10,000 there. Those two are going to suck it 637 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:50,520 all up and not we're not going to make it, you know. 638 00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:54,240 » But we'll see if she gets in. She's on the wait list. 639 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,480 » Okay. >> Class is currently full. 640 00:56:55,839 --> 00:56:59,280 » Okay. >> Somebody drops out or something 641 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:02,319 » until another group of trustees says no to another person to spot 642 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:07,119 » or that. >> Or that. 643 00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:12,799 Um, okay. That's all I have other than the calls. 44 calls since the last 644 00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:19,440 meeting. 36 ALS. Um, four BLS and four. >> Okay. 645 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:23,680 » Did have some mutual aid come in. Um, three from them, three from can't touch 646 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:28,319 it, and four from >> Okay. 647 00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:32,960 » I did have a lady who knew a lady that you did a call on 648 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:39,359 at the end of July. Um, I don't remember what road it was 649 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:42,319 on, but um, the lady was thrilled with the service she received. 650 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:46,880 » Oh, great. >> Um, and she said it was a All I got was 651 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:50,720 it was a female that was um, helping her with her 652 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:54,319 problem. She had a reaction to something. 653 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:58,079 » I don't know. >> She was very pleased with the service 654 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:02,440 she received, but >> she didn't have a name. All right. 655 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:11,559 That's all I have. Thank you very much. >> All right, let's move on to the cemetery 656 00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:11,559 report. 657 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:23,160 As [clears throat] you all can see, Ryan isn't here tonight, but what I had to 658 00:58:18,319 --> 00:58:23,160 talk to trustees about was the 659 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:34,000 I told my representative had gave us a suggestion and I talked to you that I 660 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:38,400 would get get to Ryan and Rodney. I know I didn't really get to Ryan Ryan and 661 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:45,839 Rodney wholeheartedly where we actually went out and looked at it, but 662 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:53,280 what we did with the um Sean with the Atarma, I should say Sed 663 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:59,359 or not Sed Ohio Risk Management is who he 664 00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:04,400 represents who works for Atarma. He come up and said, "Brian, we" He says, "I can 665 00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:09,485 do a preliminary quote for you, and I'm going to pass 666 00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:13,920 this down to you and take a look at it. [clears throat] What I have to do is 667 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:18,799 tweak it with uh Rodney a little bit and Ryan in case we need to add on a little 668 00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:22,880 bit, but they come up with 3812, I believe it is, that they would reimburse 669 00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:27,680 the township and we just do it in house." 670 00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:32,000 Um, I'm not saying that I know how to do any of this job totally, but I know the 671 00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:36,720 guys that know how to run the equipment could help with belts and we could 672 00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:41,119 probably put everything back in place in one day. 673 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,960 » Are you doing this on a day that they're not working or is it part of their 674 00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:46,640 normal? >> No, part of their normal because they 675 00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:49,760 would get be getting paid. >> Um, I'm not worried about I'm not 676 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:53,040 worried about setting it back in place. I'm more worried about fixing the broken 677 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,359 concrete. >> Right. And I 678 00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:59,680 » setting it. I think we've got >> there's there's one that's in three 679 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,559 pieces, but it's only about the size of this. 680 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:06,400 » Okay. Okay. >> It's a flat one. 681 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:09,280 » No, it's it stands up. It stands upright, 682 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:13,920 » but it's about the size. The base is about the size of this. 683 01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:17,520 » And I'm not saying I'm an expert at it, but it looks like it can be pinned. Now, 684 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,720 Ryan's familiar with it because he's fixed some at the other cemetery. 685 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:24,240 something that size. What would be the cost of just taking that in in pieces 686 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:27,200 and saying to a stone cutter, please rebuild, please remake this? 687 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,520 » I don't know >> because I wonder if it's just just have 688 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:35,119 it >> redone. I know head headstones even that 689 01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:37,440 size could be anywhere from the 500 to a,000 or 200. 690 01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:39,920 » Sure. Sure. You know, but in three pieces by the time we pin it back 691 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,079 together, try to make it look right. I wonder if it just 692 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,960 » makes sense to take it in and say, "Please make recreate this exactly the 693 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:49,920 way it looks." >> And and the one that is like that, you 694 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:55,599 can't read it. There's nothing legible on it. 695 01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:58,640 » It's old. 1780. 1780 year old. You can pick up the original stone that these 696 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,920 are. >> You can't even read what's on it. 697 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:06,240 » No, you can't read what's on it. Alls I know is the family. That's the left and 698 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:09,200 right. I'm assuming it's >> that changes my mind. Then 699 01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:14,400 » you can read the numbers. >> I can read to the date a date whether 700 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:18,079 it's a death date or a lot of them had had the birth on them too. 701 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:21,520 » So I that I changed my opinion on that. I I if it's original and it's hard to 702 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,400 read, I'd try to fix it. >> But then you put a new one, you can't 703 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:28,480 you can't replace the numbers. >> If we were talking up the cemetery where 704 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:33,040 newer headstones are, you can do that's a that would be what I would definitely 705 01:01:30,799 --> 01:01:38,000 be considering that. These these ones you 706 01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:40,960 » I mean to make one I think they would Yeah. duplicate it would be a very 707 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,359 expensive. >> All right. 708 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,880 » Well, if you put pens you should be able to get them pretty close. 709 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:52,799 » Yeah. I don't you know when I look when I look at it trustees I have fixed stuff 710 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:57,359 like one piece like broke or fell over and pinned it and epoxied it. I've done 711 01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:02,000 that many of times up at Wildwood Cemetery when I was mowing 712 01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:07,760 » and I just think about this isn't that bad. The hard thing is what I need 713 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:13,599 Rodney for is the one we have to lift up is 4 or 500 lb and you got to set it off 714 01:02:10,319 --> 01:02:17,760 to the side, dress up, set it back down. Once that's in set in place, then you 715 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:22,880 can rebuild it and epoxy it as you go. And it's it's not broke. It's just 716 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:27,440 there's chunks like a base, the next standing section, and a top. 717 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:31,520 » So, you got three pieces that were made that way. They didn't actually break. 718 01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:35,280 They just were sealed. They just broke apart when they came apart. They just 719 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:40,400 need set back in. So, I just didn't, you know, I told Sean 720 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:44,960 I wanted to bring this in front of you because I talked to you at the last one 721 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:49,359 about possibly doing it in house. Like, I'm going to be off that week where I 722 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:54,559 told him I'd like to talk to Rodney and Ryan over there where if they say, "Hey, 723 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:59,359 I think it'll take us a day and a half." I could suggestively say to Sean, I'd 724 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:03,440 like to modify these numbers and go a little bit higher on one or two. Or 725 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:07,920 maybe these guys say, "Hey, I think we can do it within that realm." This money 726 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:11,920 would then get put right into the road or wherever I need to put it on labor. 727 01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:16,640 » What a motion to this. >> Yeah, I would I would like to. 728 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:23,319 » Trusty approves to do the in-house cemetery repairs. You want the number in 729 01:03:19,359 --> 01:03:23,319 there? $3,812. 730 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:29,480 » Trusty Varian second. >> All in favor? 731 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,480 » I. 732 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:36,400 Thank you. I'll get with him. I'll get with Rodney and Ryan. Get this thing 733 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:39,599 roll. I want to get it done before the snowflakes make sure you do a good job 734 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,623 or somebody will come visit you at night. 735 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,200 » Yeah. [laughter] [snorts] 736 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,839 » Well, >> I'm sure you'll get it done quicker than 737 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,880 if we hired somebody. >> Yeah. 738 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:52,400 » Well, that's where I worry about how long it would take because they already 739 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,559 had us with the sand two or three months till they could get to it. 740 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,039 » Yep. >> Um, good. Thanks for being willing to do 741 01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:03,440 that. >> Thanks. You're welcome, guys. The um the 742 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:07,839 other thing is is Rodney kind of brought something up to me. I know it's around 743 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:13,280 here is about the spring. I talked to Jimmy about that and like around our 744 01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:18,400 township here, the the facility here. It's like behind and I know Rodney uh 745 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:23,520 had mentioned numerous time and I explained to him back what had happened 746 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:29,039 in the past that inhousewise they were trying to do this back in 2013 and then 747 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:33,920 again in 16 and we had a run in with the EPA coming in wanting to know where 748 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:38,640 we're going to store the chemicals the the place we had to keep chemicals who 749 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:43,839 had a license to be spraying here. So we always did it had it hired done. Well, 750 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:48,480 sometimes there's some little projects around here that I think Rodney was 751 01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:54,480 willing to um do here at the township and I know Ryan at the cemetery 752 01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:59,760 sometimes to keep caught up. I know Jim sprays, but with all the rain and all, 753 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:03,520 he's definitely behind uh from what I can see because the growth is growing 754 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:08,079 » and I know it's growing up through the cracks here and I know it's a eyesore. 755 01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:12,720 » The rest of everything he's doing is great. It's just that part of it. But I 756 01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:16,880 know if I call him and say, "Hey, can you hit this?" Yeah, he'll hit it. But 757 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:20,559 it's like we need to sometimes I know Rodney says, "Hey, go ahead and get it 758 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:23,200 and be done. Knock it out right here." For example, and Ryan Shear said the 759 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:27,280 same thing. >> If you were just buying over the counter 760 01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:30,640 stuff that they sell, you don't need a license for that. You wouldn't have to 761 01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:34,880 have a license to do it, but it was one of those things where you're going to 762 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:40,000 set setting this around over the counter and buying two and three gallon buckets 763 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:42,960 and stuff of or containers of it to mix it. 764 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:46,559 » You know, I'm going to say at the time we were 765 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:49,359 doing it, we were also doing the road signage 766 01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:54,079 » and that company that sprayed like around all the roads the guard rails and 767 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:57,839 I know it helps the road crew out. It kind of rolls into that because the same 768 01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:02,799 people that did the cemeteries were doing the roads like signage and I know 769 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:10,160 Rodney talked to me about that how bad around the um all the guard rails is. 770 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:14,720 It's it's very hard to get and um you know it's I don't know if we do it 771 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:19,119 combined. You can still separate it out because back years ago we separated and 772 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:26,079 sprayed all the cemetery driveways. We had them spray here. Now Jim does it, 773 01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:28,079 but these guys put the heavy duty stuff on it. I mean, 774 01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:30,079 » but that was someone who was doing it for the county and we piggybacked onto 775 01:06:29,839 --> 01:06:32,160 it. >> We piggybacked on to the county on 776 01:06:31,839 --> 01:06:35,359 something. >> Maybe we reach out to the county and see 777 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:40,640 if they're going to have any spring. >> I mean, I I think Rodney would need to 778 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:44,240 help on the um guard rails. Um and that same company could help us in the 779 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:47,839 cemeteries or around this facility because they have equipment and a 780 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:54,000 license to do it. I know Jimmy is mowing and he'll do it, 781 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:58,720 but just to sit there and be on on it like we did major if we're going to 782 01:06:56,799 --> 01:07:02,720 bring somebody in to do the cemetery slash roads, that's a big project. I 783 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:07,359 remember >> all we need is Round Up and 24D. 784 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:12,240 » They can spray. That's not You don't need a license to run. 785 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:16,160 » I mean, if you want them to be I mean, they could have two and a half of each 786 01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:18,319 and that would last a long time. They could spray if they want to do spot 787 01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:23,760 spraying. >> Well, I know they I know when the EPA 788 01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:28,079 guy was in, he adamantly said if you're spraying along roadways or run off or 789 01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:32,160 anything, you got to have a license. >> Well, may I'm talking if you want, but 790 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:36,000 we wouldn't have to have a bunch of money to do if they want to do some on 791 01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:41,920 the buildings. >> Well, that's why I say if you're going 792 01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:45,280 to let him tell him to do it, then >> I don't want to sit there and say, "Go 793 01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:49,280 ahead, Rodney." the EPA guy comes in here right away. If you're saying use 794 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:53,119 over the counter type stuff and touch up or certain 795 01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:57,200 » I have license too. We can there's some things that I can do like if 796 01:07:55,839 --> 01:08:01,440 » I can be well I don't have to necessarily spray as long as he's got 797 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:05,839 the train training. I I can hold the license and buy the spray. 798 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,000 I know that. But I have to do some >> Can we store it on the farm or do we 799 01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:11,119 have to store? >> You store it here. 800 01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:16,000 » You're sure? Well, I want to check everything out on it, but I'm pretty 801 01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:20,080 sure that that I don't have to 100% be the advocate because like at our farm, 802 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:23,640 I'm the I'm the licensed guy, but anybody can spray. 803 01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:28,000 » I know this year has been extra wet and everything. 804 01:08:26,719 --> 01:08:35,040 » Extra growth. >> Just more growth than ever now to help 805 01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:39,600 out both cemetery and the road. I would I would think about putting Sucos Park 806 01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:43,359 in that too because there's a lot of weeds coming up through that. 807 01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:48,080 » But even even at that, it it would not be that big of a deal to send like 808 01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:52,400 Rodney or Josh to get it. I mean, it's it it's every two or it's every three 809 01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:55,839 years once you get the license. You just have to do some education on it after. 810 01:08:54,239 --> 01:08:59,279 It's not that big of a deal. >> Well, storage units here too. That was 811 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:02,480 the other thing. They they wanted designated storage. I don't know what's 812 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:07,040 involved with at that time. They talked about locker something elevated that 813 01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:08,799 can't spill and run out all over the place. 814 01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:14,159 » I don't think that's that big of a deal. I mean, a little metal box. All you need 815 01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:17,920 is two two and a half will go. >> I'm I'm not saying I'm just remember 816 01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:21,040 what we went through with the other trustees and the other said it was 817 01:09:19,679 --> 01:09:26,080 cheaper just to go ahead and have somebody do it out outside. But I know 818 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:29,279 little jobs would be nice to touch up around here, 819 01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:31,600 » right? you know, to get over >> we want our guys spraying guard rails 820 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,239 and stuff. >> No, I don't know. We want to go full 821 01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:38,159 flood, but I mean around the buildings and stuff, there's no 822 01:09:35,839 --> 01:09:42,080 » Yeah, that would be great. >> Yeah, I don't see a problem with that 823 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:46,000 either. But we should at some point check with the county to see if they're 824 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:50,080 having spring done again so that we can kind of piggy back on it for our guard 825 01:09:47,679 --> 01:09:54,880 rails. >> All right. I don't have anything else to 826 01:09:52,239 --> 01:10:01,280 cemeteries. I know they all were mowed this week and then the facility here was 827 01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:06,480 mowed this over over the weekend. Sucos Park was mowed about a week and a 828 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:10,080 half ago, the edging, but then I know with all the rain and I went by there 829 01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:15,280 the other day and I know Rodney lives close by. Don't they grew? 830 01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:18,159 » We bought the track and it's got a lot of weeds coming through it. 831 01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:23,600 » Okay. See, >> it's getting a lot. I think one of our 832 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:26,159 residents helped us out on it. So, I don't I don't 833 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:29,520 » weed killed >> on his for when are they going to mow 834 01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:32,800 the >> Did they mow the 835 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:36,960 » They were going to mow those tall weeds off here at the end of the season. 836 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:40,320 » Well, they he talked about like Halloween like when you have your first 837 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:44,400 frost then mow everything down. >> Oh, once it frost 838 01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:50,560 » that's when everything get mowed down. >> Okay. 839 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:54,320 » All right. Are we ready to move on? All right. We're going road. 840 01:10:53,040 --> 01:11:00,640 » Yes. Road >> trustee pro moves at 8:27 841 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:05,280 to go into executive session for personal matters. This refers to the 842 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:08,000 appointment, employment, demotion or compensation of a public employee or 843 01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:11,280 official [clears throat] or the investigation of charges against a 844 01:11:09,679 --> 01:11:15,679 public employee official licency or regulated individual. 845 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:18,560 » Trusty Barian second. >> Roll call. 846 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,199 » Barian. >> Yes. Piru. 847 01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:23,040 » Yes. >> And Griffith. 848 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:28,719 » Yes. >> Four of us. 849 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:33,640 » Okay. I'll be shutting off the sound on everything for right now till we come 850 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,640 back. 851 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:19,760 Everything's back on. >> Hey, we'll 852 01:36:16,239 --> 01:36:24,320 call the meeting back at 852. 853 01:36:22,719 --> 01:36:28,960 » Most ingenious cup I've ever built right here. Can't waste anything. 854 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:34,679 » Oh, second. >> Second roll. 855 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,679 » Just making sure. 856 01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,159 » Yep. >> Yes. 857 01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:43,159 » And Griffith. >> Yes. 858 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:52,360 » Okay. Road report. Superintendent. and you had a chance to go over the road 859 01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,360 race. 860 01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:02,480 » So, we took a wild wild ride. Wild wild west ride on the roller. 861 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:05,600 » Oh, yeah. And if you guys want to discuss that, [laughter] 862 01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:07,920 » everybody's okay, right? >> Everybody's okay. 863 01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:11,360 » Everybody's okay with the gate. >> Everybody's okay with the gate. What's 864 01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:14,239 not the gate out? How about we do that? Uh 865 01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:17,600 » what are we doing something about the gate or is that something that we need 866 01:37:16,719 --> 01:37:22,560 to worry about? >> Yeah, we should you guys can go. Yeah, 867 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:28,880 we can straight a supply >> out 868 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:31,600 straight A right down the same quality of gate. 869 01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:34,080 » Yeah, because they have different strengths on them gates. 870 01:37:32,719 --> 01:37:37,199 » Oh, is that that be? >> It's it's a fence supply. It's a fence 871 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,600 supply. >> It's it's real easy. 872 01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:43,119 » Just outside of Manurva. >> Straight down. Do we have an account 873 01:37:41,679 --> 01:37:47,760 there? >> Oh, Brian Phoenix. 874 01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:49,440 » Uh, [laughter] >> yeah. I think we need to replace the 875 01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,840 gate. >> We haven't talked to any of the We 876 01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,239 haven't talked to the property owner yet. 877 01:37:52,719 --> 01:37:56,639 » Nobody's there, right? >> Nobody's there. 878 01:37:54,880 --> 01:38:01,280 » I think they come down like on the weekends and stuff like that. 879 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:02,159 » Is it It's got a chain with a lock. >> Yes. 880 01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,960 » Oh. >> So, we can't see anything until we talk. 881 01:38:03,679 --> 01:38:09,040 » It has to be unlocked. >> Yeah. I think you just need to contact 882 01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:14,800 the property owner asking where the fence came from. We'll replace that gate 883 01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:17,520 » and we have to twist in a bottom p a bottom hinge pin. 884 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:21,760 » Right. >> Well, we you can find we can find that 885 01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:24,000 out and get some prices for next time so we know what 886 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:27,119 » Okay. >> I think he's a doctor 887 01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:31,440 » because it's still it's still up. It's just bad. 888 01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:34,560 » It's not like we put them in jeopardy as trespasses, 889 01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:37,360 » right? But we still need to >> Let's communicate with the owner. his 890 01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:41,760 name. >> I don't have that. 891 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:46,800 » I don't do >> I only know what it said on the auditor 892 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:49,520 saying there and it's some LLC. I know the guy's a doctor. 893 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:54,560 » He's a doctor and I think they live up in a I'm trying to think. I don't know 894 01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:57,679 him but I know I think maybe Joe and Ray Van Boris know 895 01:38:56,719 --> 01:39:01,040 to get a name for >> I have no idea who it is. They they 896 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:05,440 haven't been there that much this year at all at their house. somebody living 897 01:39:03,679 --> 01:39:07,360 in the house taking care of it for a while. 898 01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,679 » That gate, that gate up there, >> the white house up on top. 899 01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,159 » Yeah, that gate's been >> that gate hasn't been open. They don't 900 01:39:11,199 --> 01:39:17,040 really open it, >> right? 901 01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:21,360 » Um I will ask them to see if they know, but I'm pretty sure they know who it is 902 01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:22,880 and maybe have a contact number for them. 903 01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:27,119 » All right, >> I'll see if I can get it for you. 904 01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:31,280 » That's a bull heavy duty gate for 15. This is all 149. 905 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:34,320 » They have it now. This one has this. It has a lower section. It's like like a 906 01:39:33,679 --> 01:39:37,679 paneling. >> So, do you just want to you just want to 907 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:41,679 go ahead and approve 300 bucks? So, if you get the hold, we can just get, you 908 01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:44,800 know, this is similar to what the gate is. 909 01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:48,639 » All right. That's 125. That's at ranch city. That's straight A's. 910 01:39:46,239 --> 01:39:52,239 » And it looks like it's like galvanized or something. 911 01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:54,480 » I mean, if we even approve up the 500 bucks, we get a hold of them, they can 912 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:59,520 just go do it, >> right? The only Yeah. The only the only 913 01:39:56,639 --> 01:40:02,239 situation we may run into is if you can't match exactly and they we have to 914 01:40:01,440 --> 01:40:04,159 do it both. >> Yeah. 915 01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:07,600 » It's not going to be that. It's not going to be a crazy amount, but 916 01:40:06,239 --> 01:40:08,880 » Oh, cuz the gates come together. >> Yeah. 917 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:13,199 » Yeah. There's two gates. >> Where do you want that paid out? 918 01:40:11,199 --> 01:40:15,840 » Channel. >> I don't know. How [clears throat] would 919 01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:17,760 you want to do it? >> Do we have insurance? 920 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:22,159 » Do you have a bra? You have a discretionary fund or 921 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:24,480 » do we have insurance for that? >> I don't know that 922 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:27,440 » we have insurance. I mean, the deductible won't even 923 01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:30,000 » I mean, it's it's up to you guys what you want to do because you're going to 924 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:35,440 have a deductible on the road. >> Yeah, the deductible won't even 925 01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:39,040 » if it's just the gate that one gate section, you're only talking $200 or 926 01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:43,119 $300 for the one side, but the worst case scenario, they have to replace both 927 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:47,920 sides. Trusty ver like to make a motion to pay up to $600 928 01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:52,400 um with discretionary with Rodney the road superintendent once he gets hold of 929 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:55,520 the owner gets the gate unlocked and if you make it under 600 bucks let's get it 930 01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:57,520 done if not we'll talk about it in two weeks 931 01:40:56,159 --> 01:41:01,639 » trusty per second. >> All in favor I 932 01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:10,719 » it's straight A supply >> straight A supply 933 01:41:08,159 --> 01:41:14,080 » straight A supply. They got thousands of gigs. 934 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:18,360 » Yeah, they do. They got a lot. They got holding tanks and all kinds of stuff. 935 01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:23,280 » But Brenda's gonna try and get >> I'm going to text somebody and see if 936 01:41:21,679 --> 01:41:31,920 they have it. >> If you want to write this down. Uh 9036 937 01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:36,159 Leopard Road, L E Oo P A R D Road Northwest in Malver, Ohio. 938 01:41:34,239 --> 01:41:38,719 » What's behind it? Okay. Is it all before? 939 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:42,960 » I think so. >> Um yeah. Is there a driveway? 940 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:50,080 » Yeah, it's that big farmhouse that hasn't it's 941 01:41:46,719 --> 01:41:54,560 been abandoned for years, >> but that was the original driveway to 942 01:41:52,159 --> 01:41:56,960 that farm and then they bought it all and 943 01:41:55,280 --> 01:42:01,520 » but that whole all that whole property is in like an environmental 944 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:04,320 » Yeah. Um 945 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:08,080 » some kind of property thing. >> Talk about the gate. Have we fixed the 946 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:12,400 Huber? >> The the roller was the one that 947 01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:14,880 » The roller What was the roller? Was the one that broke. Have we fixed it or do 948 01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:19,520 we need a part for >> I am trying to find a part. Um 949 01:42:19,119 --> 01:42:24,080 » Okay. >> The only one I'm trying to get a hold of 950 01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:27,440 is Adelman's. I don't know who else to call. The last time it was repaired, it 951 01:42:26,159 --> 01:42:32,840 was just welded. >> Okay. What brand is it? 952 01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:32,840 » It's a 953 01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:40,719 Shoot, I forget something. Roll on that. >> It's a yellow roller. 954 01:42:39,119 --> 01:42:43,520 » It's a linkage. >> It's the linkage for the forward and 955 01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:47,679 reverse. >> And that's all it is is the the bar 956 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:53,199 comes back and the levers on the hydraulic thing that just moves back and 957 01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:54,880 forth. And that's what that's what broke the 958 01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:56,560 » Could we have a machine shop just make it? 959 01:42:55,840 --> 01:43:01,840 » I don't know. >> Is it But is it like a ball joint that 960 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:06,000 broke loose? No, it's uh the pin that's on top of the hydraulic and the lever 961 01:43:04,159 --> 01:43:10,960 kind of is supposed to just squeeze on it, but somebody welded it to the top of 962 01:43:08,480 --> 01:43:14,880 the pin and that's what happened was >> it broke off. 963 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:17,199 » The part on the top broke off. >> Yeah, 964 01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:21,760 » it probably could be welded again, but there's a seal there that once it gets 965 01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:24,480 too hot, that seal's gone. >> The last guy that did some welding for 966 01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:30,159 us did a really good job on the arm, didn't he? Randy and you you and Cliff 967 01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:34,560 ought to look at it because showed me >> it's so hard to if you were to weld it's 968 01:43:32,719 --> 01:43:36,639 right against that rubber bushing and right on it. 969 01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:38,560 » I'll look at it after the meeting. >> Yeah. 970 01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:43,040 » Okay. >> We'll find a fix. 971 01:43:41,199 --> 01:43:46,880 » I didn't I didn't know if that guy did fabrication work or guy did a boom 972 01:43:45,440 --> 01:43:50,639 mower. >> I mean, yeah, he sounds like he did a 973 01:43:48,639 --> 01:43:55,840 nice job. >> He might have an idea how to fix it with 974 01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:58,840 what's there. Mhm. Good. >> All right. 975 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:06,159 » That's all I got. >> All right. 976 01:44:04,159 --> 01:44:11,040 I'm going to make a motion for the road department. 977 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:15,760 Let's see what's next Monday. That would be 978 01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:22,320 31st. >> Uh yeah, next Monday is 31st. 979 01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:27,600 I'm uh Trusty Firo makes a motion for starting on August 31st that our road 980 01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:35,360 superintendent operational hours will be from 6 981 01:44:31,199 --> 01:44:40,320 6:00 a.m. to 6:30 a.m. Then clock out and clock back in at 7:00 a.m. to 2:30 982 01:44:38,639 --> 01:44:44,560 p.m. during regular school hours during 983 01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:51,040 regular school days. >> Mhm. And then the rest of the crew will 984 01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:54,639 move to a 7 a.m. to 300 p.m. shift. >> What' you say? The end of all the 985 01:44:53,119 --> 01:44:58,480 superintendent time >> 2:30 p.m. 986 01:44:55,920 --> 01:45:03,679 » I thought you said 2 >> 7 7 to 2:30. 987 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:06,880 The rest of the crew will work a 7 to 3 7 a.m. to 300 p.m. shift 988 01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,600 » straight shift >> year round. 989 01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:12,880 » Yeah. Trusty Barry and second. >> I want to and I want to add to the 990 01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:18,960 motion. Anytime outside of school, the road superintendent will revert to a 7 991 01:45:15,119 --> 01:45:24,800 to 3 shift. 7 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. shift. Only on school time is when that is when 992 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:28,682 the alternate times are allowed. >> Second. 993 01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:32,280 » All in favor? [snorts] 994 01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:32,280 » Okay, 995 01:45:33,199 --> 01:45:40,159 that's it. >> Anything else on your report? 996 01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:49,360 » Oh, we got to spend some money. Oh, >> no. Um, that is a quote for sweeping up 997 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:52,880 the chip and seal. That's on renting a street sweeper. 998 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:58,159 » Rodney had a pretty good idea. He called me today said, "Hey, we both ran work 999 01:45:54,639 --> 01:46:02,080 for a company that drove we drove sweet street sweepers." 1000 01:46:00,480 --> 01:46:06,800 So, somebody had recommended that Plane 1001 01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:11,360 Township has a street sweeper. So, I called Plane Township about possibly 1002 01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:16,000 renting it. They have not got back to me with yes or no and a price. And then in 1003 01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:20,800 the meantime, Rodney got a quote from Sunb Belt. Well, last year we had uh I 1004 01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:25,920 don't know what the name of the company has come out. They did they did three 1005 01:46:22,719 --> 01:46:30,480 days and it costs more than what it would be for us to rent this for a week 1006 01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:33,520 and do it ourselves in house and we could do more coverage and do a better 1007 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:36,080 job. >> Yeah, cuz they were just doing 1008 01:46:34,639 --> 01:46:39,840 intersections last time. I >> How does the broom just pushes it 1009 01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:42,719 around? We we push it in a pile and scoop it with a front end. 1010 01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:44,639 » It sweeps it up and dumps it. >> Yeah. It sucks it up. 1011 01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:48,719 » Vacuums it. >> It's the same way we do now. Right, 1012 01:46:46,639 --> 01:46:51,199 Rodney? The machine. You follow him around with the [clears throat] truck. 1013 01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:54,159 » Yeah, we follow them with the truck and then they just dump. 1014 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:57,440 » Oh, so this isn't is this isn't just a street broom that spins. This actually 1015 01:46:55,600 --> 01:47:00,320 sucks it out and puts the same thing that they 1016 01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,320 » got it. But we were >> Well, you just rent the machine. 1017 01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:03,920 » Yeah, we're just going to >> It's not an attachment. It's a whole 1018 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,880 machine, >> right? It's a machine. 1019 01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:12,480 » I thought it was an attachment. I'm sorry. Thank you. So it's 435 1020 01:47:10,639 --> 01:47:14,560 a day. Is that what it is? >> Yes. But the weekly 1021 01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:18,480 » weekly >> the week is 1755. 1022 01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:22,400 » Cool. >> We don't have an account with them yet. 1023 01:47:20,239 --> 01:47:23,840 So they put tax and everything on that. So 1024 01:47:22,639 --> 01:47:31,119 » do they have to they probably a delivery. What's,67? 1025 01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:35,199 » Yeah. 167 is what it says. That,60. Oh, that's the 1026 01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:39,840 that is for everything that's on that paper as far as the delivery charge, the 1027 01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:42,880 pickup charge, and what they're going to 1028 01:47:41,679 --> 01:47:46,480 » say. They're going to deliver it. I probably let you hold it. 1029 01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:49,920 » There's some sort of extra like >> rental protection plan. Yeah. 1030 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:52,719 » Yeah. A protection plan. >> So, this on the back was probably for 1031 01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:56,000 one day. >> That is for one day at the one day 1032 01:47:55,520 --> 01:48:01,040 price. >> Okay. where you wrote 1033 01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:04,560 » the weekly price is the 1755. >> Is that with delivery and everything? 1034 01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:09,119 » That's with delivery and pickup. >> Okay. 1035 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,880 » Which which they have experience operating them. So 1036 01:48:10,639 --> 01:48:13,119 » yeah, >> we're going to get a lot better deal 1037 01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:16,800 than we are hiring. >> Can you run that if it gets wet? Like 1038 01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:19,440 say if it's a rainy week, how's that work? 1039 01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:24,480 » If it if it's raining, sometimes they don't work as good. But yeah, if it's a 1040 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:26,560 rainy week, I don't know. We'll have to discuss something, 1041 01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,800 » right? >> They can still sweep, but 1042 01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:32,239 » yeah, >> sometimes it don't pick up as good if 1043 01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:33,920 it's water lo, you know, >> sometimes you can sweep talk these guys, 1044 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,360 too. >> They run if there's a breakdown like 1045 01:48:35,679 --> 01:48:40,639 they had. Do they come out with a new machine and say, [laughter] 1046 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:43,760 » I'm all about renting equipment and letting our guys run it. I think that's 1047 01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:45,760 a great idea. I think we can save some money. 1048 01:48:44,159 --> 01:48:47,600 » Does that rental price include the insurance on it? Because usually on 1049 01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:51,199 rentals. >> I think that's what that 1050 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:56,080 » it says rental protection $65.3. >> Yeah. And well, we're still waiting to 1051 01:48:54,719 --> 01:48:57,360 see what plane township should come back. 1052 01:48:56,560 --> 01:49:01,600 » Right. Yeah. >> Right. 1053 01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:04,719 » Great. >> He should let me know by tomorrow. He 1054 01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:10,000 was hoping to get back today, but he didn't get back. 1055 01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:12,000 » Okay. So, we'll have more. >> Do we want to make a move on this? We're 1056 01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:15,679 going to wait. >> Is that what if you rent it on a 1057 01:49:13,679 --> 01:49:18,320 Thursday or do you have to do Monday to Friday? 1058 01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:22,639 » They they said you can rent it from whenever you want. So, I don't really 1059 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:26,800 We're not locked in on any days yet. That was just something we discovered. 1060 01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:30,320 » I was just looking at the forecast, >> right? Exactly. 1061 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:33,760 » So, I don't think we want it when it's going to rain. 1062 01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:38,719 » No, it would either be next week or >> Well, starting Wednesday the 2nd. 1063 01:49:37,199 --> 01:49:41,040 » It's supposed to rain next week. >> I don't trust my phone. 1064 01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:43,679 » Okay. >> Mine says rain Tuesday, Wednesday, 1065 01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:46,719 Thursday next week. >> Well, that wouldn't do it on 1066 01:49:45,440 --> 01:49:49,119 » Really? What are you looking at? All right. 1067 01:49:47,199 --> 01:49:52,239 » Do you want to make a motion to move on this if if you hear back from PL or do 1068 01:49:51,119 --> 01:49:57,320 you want to wait for two weeks and we meet again? 1069 01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:57,320 » How long are we on funding? Brian, 1070 01:49:57,679 --> 01:50:03,840 » you're okay. >> Uh well then I guess we could make make 1071 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,639 the call. >> Yeah. Make the motion then if he needs 1072 01:50:05,199 --> 01:50:11,280 to move on it and then if we don't use the motion we can 1073 01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:18,719 » just let you know your road program come in $6,000 less than what you approve. 1074 01:50:15,119 --> 01:50:21,760 That money once once I unencumber it, it's can be used immediately. 1075 01:50:21,119 --> 01:50:26,159 » All right. >> Okay. 1076 01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:31,600 » The trusty appro moves to to rent a street sweeper to clean the newly 1077 01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:37,920 chipped and sealed roads excess gravel off not to exceed $1,800 at a $5 five 1078 01:50:36,159 --> 01:50:41,119 day rental. >> Trusty Barry in second. All 1079 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:45,440 » in favor? >> I. And then if we don't use it, we use 1080 01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,360 plane. Okay, >> we'll have to get back together on that. 1081 01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:51,119 But >> okay, 1082 01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:55,119 » uh Rodney, they text me that they will text me his number once I get it. 1083 01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:58,080 » I don't know if [clears throat] they're going to send me the name or not, but 1084 01:50:56,480 --> 01:51:02,960 I'll give you his phone number. Once I get I'll text it to you. 1085 01:51:01,119 --> 01:51:07,760 » And I'll have to get with Brian anyhow about that because an account has to be 1086 01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:08,960 set up with that [snorts] Sunb Belt once they 1087 01:51:08,480 --> 01:51:12,480 » right >> once we make a decision on what's going 1088 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:16,480 on. Good. 1089 01:51:14,639 --> 01:51:20,560 » Well, it might not be a bad idea anyway just to even get paperwork and set up 1090 01:51:18,639 --> 01:51:24,239 something for the future. >> Tell me about the boat dropped off on 1091 01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:30,000 Mapleton. What was that? >> That was a fish. 1092 01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:35,119 » Back end cut all of it and someone just dropped it off kind of on the side and 1093 01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:40,000 on the edge of the road on Mapleton Street right there at Parker Farms. 1094 01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:46,880 » Boats are hard to get rid of. Yeah. The towing trucking towing truck 1095 01:51:42,639 --> 01:51:50,159 company gets stuck with it. >> Who does? 1096 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:56,280 » The people that come and tow it away. They get stuck with that boat. 1097 01:51:52,719 --> 01:51:56,280 » Who towed it away? 1098 01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:03,199 » I don't know. I was talking to Rabber and I didn't even catch the name of the 1099 01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:07,520 tow company. He was just telling me what happened. 1100 01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:10,960 » How bad a shape was it? It was actually a nice boat except for 1101 01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:15,280 the motor in the back end been cut off of it. 1102 01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:18,880 » So they literally cut the motor out back end and dropped the boat there. 1103 01:52:17,599 --> 01:52:22,719 » Probably a good chance. >> Yeah, I'm going to say it sounds like it 1104 01:52:20,239 --> 01:52:27,280 was stolen. They took them over. >> They ran the they ran the numbers on it 1105 01:52:25,599 --> 01:52:32,480 and it came back to someone in Massachusetts, 1106 01:52:29,199 --> 01:52:37,360 » but that was back in 2017. So it wasn't a new registration. 1107 01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,360 All 1108 01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:46,639 right. Anything else for Rob? >> All right. Let's move on. Zoning. Mary, 1109 01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:52,560 » um, since last meeting had one permit issued for an addition. Um, over on the 1110 01:52:50,480 --> 01:52:56,880 nuisance side, Rodney let me know that there was some 1111 01:52:54,400 --> 01:53:00,880 trash that was looked like it was getting dropped off or piled up in front 1112 01:52:58,639 --> 01:53:06,400 of the house on Sam Crael. So, I sent out a letter today. I did a little bit 1113 01:53:04,159 --> 01:53:11,360 of research. From what I saw >> at the greenhouse. 1114 01:53:07,679 --> 01:53:14,480 » Yeah. At the San Fel. >> From what I saw, the owners are both 1115 01:53:13,599 --> 01:53:17,119 dead. >> No. Well, there's a sister. 1116 01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:20,159 » Yeah. >> And there's 1117 01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:26,239 » She's the one that boarded it up. I have no idea where she's at. 1118 01:53:22,480 --> 01:53:30,639 » But I sent a letter to the address I had. See if we get anything. It probably 1119 01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:36,599 go through the prosecutors or the health department. 1120 01:53:33,599 --> 01:53:36,599 Um, 1121 01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:43,280 speaking of prosecutors, um, the house there at Georgetown, we at 12 in 1122 01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:48,960 Georgetown, the triangle piece there that needs 1123 01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:54,400 mowed. I would like to request that we pass 1124 01:53:50,719 --> 01:53:58,639 a resolution deeming it a nuisance for the high grass and 1125 01:53:56,639 --> 01:54:02,159 vegetation. That way I can work with the prosecutor's office to move forward to 1126 01:54:01,119 --> 01:54:04,400 get it. >> Okay. 1127 01:54:02,639 --> 01:54:06,880 » Didn't we have record where we did this before with them? 1128 01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:11,280 » Yeah. >> Did you see that the back half of that 1129 01:54:08,719 --> 01:54:14,719 the garage is already collapsed now? Garage is collapsed now on that 1130 01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:21,520 property. >> Trusty Piro moves to make 5048 George 1131 01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:25,760 Town being the nuisance to proceed with further steps because of high grass and 1132 01:54:23,440 --> 01:54:28,719 whatever else is going on. >> Mr. Griffith second. All in favor? 1133 01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:34,159 » I I >> Do you need us to sign that or no? 1134 01:54:30,639 --> 01:54:37,280 » Uh I think it just needs filled out and then Brian sign. 1135 01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:43,520 » Great. >> So everybody needs to sign one copy so 1136 01:54:40,239 --> 01:54:48,800 we get this all through. Right, Barry? >> Because we It looks like we all have to 1137 01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:53,199 have signatures on it. I can assign it a resolution number 1138 01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:56,480 » to make it good. Everybody we need one good copier. All three trustees sign it 1139 01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:01,320 though. >> Blank lines there. 1140 01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:01,320 » It looks like all three. 1141 01:55:01,679 --> 01:55:04,880 Whoever makes >> you want to send Are you sending us 1142 01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:07,520 yours, Brian? Using this? >> Well, that's what I was going to say. 1143 01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:10,560 Who's What one you want to write? >> Fine. 1144 01:55:08,719 --> 01:55:13,040 » I'm going to write the resolution on top of it right now. 1145 01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:16,480 » All right. We'll use Brian's. We'll use Brian. 1146 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:22,719 » Um the other one on the other way of 1147 01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:27,119 Georgetown has been mowed. Um, I did reach out the prosecutor's office 1148 01:55:24,719 --> 01:55:32,080 about it because he did ask about whether he could file for a variance for 1149 01:55:29,199 --> 01:55:36,000 it. They came back, no, that's not a possibility. 1150 01:55:33,599 --> 01:55:40,080 So, he did mow it. I got to call him back and talk to him, though. 1151 01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:43,520 » Okay. >> Um, 1152 01:55:41,679 --> 01:55:49,679 other than that, I don't have a whole lot of change. Um, 1153 01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:53,760 take that back. the land bank reached out. They're 1154 01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:59,199 trying to get grant funding for next year and there's a sizable chunk of 1155 01:55:57,119 --> 01:56:06,080 grant funding out there. They were looking for properties again. So, I gave 1156 01:56:02,239 --> 01:56:13,280 them the Indian running property again, the one out there at 12 in Georgetown, 1157 01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:19,400 and also the sand crab just so they got a good number to try and get that money. 1158 01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,400 Great. 1159 01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:23,159 That's wonderful. 1160 01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:29,840 » Perfect. Anything else, Mary? >> All right. 1161 01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:36,760 » Thanks, Mary. >> Move on to Old Township business. Brian 1162 01:56:32,639 --> 01:56:36,760 on BWC audit. 1163 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:48,800 » I just want to give you an update on how the audit went. Um, Mary was here. I 1164 01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:56,400 asked her to be here. It it didn't go real well, but it ended up being very 1165 01:56:52,560 --> 01:57:01,760 helpful um and very good at the end. I felt like my patience with them and 1166 01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:05,760 talking to all the head auditors, I think it paid off because I pointed 1167 01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:08,960 some things out and they said, "You're right, Brian. We should have caught this 1168 01:57:07,199 --> 01:57:15,599 in 2022. We basically were underpaying 1169 01:57:12,159 --> 01:57:18,560 for since 2018." And when I calculated that 1170 01:57:17,119 --> 01:57:23,679 » you're underpaying who? >> The Bureau workers comp. We were 1171 01:57:20,639 --> 01:57:28,080 underpaying based on the classifications that we have everybody in which I didn't 1172 01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:33,119 change. It stayed the same, but their rate changed and I didn't change based 1173 01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:38,639 on I hate to say this, but it was the fire department was the big hitter. And 1174 01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:42,560 when I did my projection, now I didn't run this by the auditor auditor, but if 1175 01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:47,920 we would have been paying what we should have been paying, it's about an $88,000. 1176 01:57:45,679 --> 01:57:49,840 We should have paid out over the period. >> I was going to say not per year. 1177 01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:53,360 » Yeah, >> that's over that's 18 to now. 1178 01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:56,320 » Yeah. 18 to now. >> Okay. 1179 01:57:53,840 --> 01:58:01,040 » So, when I did the analysis and then they said this should have been caught 1180 01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:05,280 in 2022 and they didn't catch it. So, I'm doing 1181 01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:09,440 the same. >> Did you have an audit in 22? 1182 01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:14,880 » Yes. And that audit didn't catch it. So, I kept doing the same thing I did all 1183 01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:18,800 the way up even up until this year of 26. 1184 01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:24,239 And when the main auditor finally come back with all of them come back, they 1185 01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:29,040 said that uh because you were basically they said consistent, you followed the 1186 01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:33,840 rules, we're not going to make you pay any of 1187 01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:36,159 that. just moving forward. You have to >> Okay. So, there's no back. There's no 1188 01:58:35,599 --> 01:58:38,320 » No. >> Exactly. 1189 01:58:36,719 --> 01:58:44,080 » But I was happy to hear that's why it started out kind of scary and bad and it 1190 01:58:40,639 --> 01:58:48,880 turned into pretty good because I hate to say it again. It was the fire 1191 01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:52,000 department that would have got nailed on the underpayment. 1192 01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:55,520 Giving examples, >> but to the not to the employees, just so 1193 01:58:53,679 --> 01:58:56,960 we're clear, to the Buer workers comp. >> Yeah. 1194 01:58:55,920 --> 01:59:02,239 » That's what was underpaid. >> Yeah. What it what it was is when you 1195 01:58:59,599 --> 01:59:08,080 and anybody does workers comp every year you have to do a 1196 01:59:05,119 --> 01:59:16,480 true upgrade report versus a regular projected amount and ours back in 2017 1197 01:59:13,199 --> 01:59:20,800 was in around the 14 $15,000 a year. Then you'd have the true up report might 1198 01:59:18,159 --> 01:59:26,880 be a few hundred dollar but starting in 18 on up is when the change happened and 1199 01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:30,800 then we were audited in 2022 and they didn't catch it but we were only paying 1200 01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:34,320 about six around $6,000 a year. 1201 01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:36,320 » Were they in the wrong classifications then? 1202 01:59:35,119 --> 01:59:39,040 » Actually were in the right classifications. 1203 01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:41,840 The rate wasn't changed. >> The rate wasn't 1204 01:59:40,159 --> 01:59:48,080 » Have we had any claims to workers comp in those eight years? We had some back 1205 01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:52,320 um and I I don't know the exact year. We did have some like back we had some road 1206 01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:56,320 ones back a couple years back. We had some in the fire department way back, 1207 01:59:54,639 --> 02:00:02,320 » but um >> nothing nothing that was like off time. 1208 02:00:00,239 --> 02:00:05,119 Just, you know, a little injury, a neck, a cut or something. Everybody's back to 1209 02:00:04,159 --> 02:00:10,239 work. >> But I was thankful that we were able to 1210 02:00:07,199 --> 02:00:15,520 get that back. And I put down here the state of Ohio administrator said that 1211 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:19,920 they should have caught it in 2022 because they didn't. And because I was 1212 02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:25,520 transparent and consistent on my records, they were not going to penalize 1213 02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:30,239 us for using the wrong code and or them for not catching it because they should 1214 02:00:28,159 --> 02:00:33,679 have caught it in 22 >> and they didn't. 1215 02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:36,159 » So, is this all for our knowledge or do we need to do anything? 1216 02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:39,040 » No, you don't have to do anything. It's for your knowledge. But I will tell the 1217 02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:44,480 fire department >> the salary's got to go up. the the 1218 02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:49,760 bureau, their department is going to be about instead of being three and $4,000 1219 02:00:47,599 --> 02:00:54,400 a year, it's going to be about almost $20,000 a year or higher 1220 02:00:52,639 --> 02:00:56,560 » for the beer workers comp claims. >> That's a total 1221 02:00:55,280 --> 02:01:04,000 » for the premium. >> That's the total. And in back in 2018, 1222 02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:09,280 it would have it was around $13,000 prior to the decrease. 1223 02:01:08,159 --> 02:01:15,440 Okay. >> I just need to project that in as as we 1224 02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:18,159 do it. It isn't that big, Tom. I know you were sitting there in shock because 1225 02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:21,440 I was too great. >> But the fire department was the one that 1226 02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:24,800 was the hardest one. >> Well, that's got the most employees 1227 02:01:22,719 --> 02:01:29,119 » because you had, you know, how you have volunteer versus the 24-hour 1228 02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:35,040 uh shifts. >> All those things affected and our 1229 02:01:31,679 --> 02:01:37,920 payroll went up considerable from 2018 till now. Yeah. 1230 02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:39,599 » So, the overall payroll, that's the biggest hit on it. 1231 02:01:39,119 --> 02:01:45,119 » Yeah. >> And I mean, it's just it's what it is. I 1232 02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:50,000 can't change anything because they only have for EMS, 1233 02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:53,679 fire, they only have three or there might be four codes because you could 1234 02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:58,159 still have an office personnel at the fire department, but those three codes 1235 02:01:56,159 --> 02:02:01,760 fall into place on the volunteer fire department. 1236 02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:05,520 When I say volunteer, you volunteer your time or what you're going to 1237 02:02:02,984 --> 02:02:09,119 [clears throat] work. Um, I asked a question just hypothetically full-time. 1238 02:02:07,599 --> 02:02:12,960 They said full-time, you're in the other bracket, which is a higher rate than 1239 02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:16,000 what the volunteer is. >> So, 1240 02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:20,719 I just wanted to let you know I was scared to death when I heard that 1241 02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:27,280 because I thought I made a mistake. And actually, the mistake wasn't me as much 1242 02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:32,320 as that in 22 they should have caught that the coding was wrong 1243 02:02:30,639 --> 02:02:38,400 » because it automatically put your rating in out there. if it automatically puts 1244 02:02:34,159 --> 02:02:41,840 the rate in and their rate had adjusted. I don't know if anybody else had that 1245 02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:46,080 happen. I didn't really ask the girls that were here. I had two auditors here 1246 02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:50,480 and I've never had anything like that happen other than I know that when you 1247 02:02:48,159 --> 02:02:55,199 when you you find something like that. I'm just thinking, you know, I've 1248 02:02:53,440 --> 02:03:02,960 already wrote the budget for next year, but that 18 grand roughly that'll affect 1249 02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:06,639 it will be it it has to happen because that's the that's the workers comp. 1250 02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:11,679 That's just the way it is. >> The only way you can keep your rates 1251 02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:16,000 down. Uh and I and I'm just doing this for my business size. If you had all 1252 02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:19,440 kinds of these drug-free workplace work uh all these things and all these rules 1253 02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:24,719 you'd have to follow. I know um our force 1254 02:03:22,719 --> 02:03:28,560 um to make them all go through all those hoops. I wouldn't even want to suggest 1255 02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:34,000 it. But it might not even be that big a savings 1256 02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:39,199 either. I just don't I just know that I was happy first scared to death and then 1257 02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:43,199 I was very happy when they called back and they said the news that they they 1258 02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:47,440 made the mistake. They should have caught it. So in 22 the worst case 1259 02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:54,960 scenario would have gave you a thing. Hey, we owed something back in 22. But 1260 02:03:50,639 --> 02:04:00,400 um now it's like, okay, moving forward, I have to um 1261 02:03:58,159 --> 02:04:06,719 use the correct codes which have the correct numbers. And it isn't it isn't 1262 02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:10,000 that I I keep saying I kept throwing myself under the bus that I picked the 1263 02:04:08,320 --> 02:04:12,960 wrong thing. I didn't. I picked what they they actually told me and they 1264 02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:16,239 proved it in >> defaults in. 1265 02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:21,040 » Yeah. That's why I think they're giving me the slap because they said you did 1266 02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:23,920 what we we should have caught the mistake in 22. So 1267 02:04:23,199 --> 02:04:25,840 » just know that. >> So is it fixed now? 1268 02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:28,000 » Yeah. >> Is it fixed now? 1269 02:04:27,199 --> 02:04:29,679 » Yes. Yes. >> Our payroll is going to be higher moving 1270 02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:32,480 forward. >> There was supposed to be a kickback this 1271 02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:37,280 year from BWC. >> There also Yeah. You know those kind of 1272 02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:43,599 things always happen. If there's a more money in the coffin or something, they 1273 02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:48,159 give you a a rebate or a larger rebate. I haven't really pursued all that. I was 1274 02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:52,000 just happy that we didn't have to go and bring you any bad news that we owed some 1275 02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:54,080 money and we don't. >> Okay. 1276 02:04:52,719 --> 02:04:56,719 » That's the good side of it. >> I have something on old business for 1277 02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:57,599 Sucross. Is that all right? >> Yeah. 1278 02:04:57,199 --> 02:05:01,920 » Sure. >> Um I'd like to um ask Mary to help me 1279 02:04:59,920 --> 02:05:04,960 with the project. So this piece of chicken scratch paper that I put 1280 02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:08,239 together right here, these are all the signs that I feel are important. If you 1281 02:05:07,119 --> 02:05:10,560 could help me with this, I'm going to give you this chicken scratch piece 1282 02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:15,360 paper. It's got my number on the bottom. can call me. The first four line items 1283 02:05:12,719 --> 02:05:18,639 are all just signs we can get online. Parking signs, private property signs, 1284 02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:22,080 stunt dust, no trespassing. Those are easy. I have like where I'd like to go 1285 02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:27,199 with the park. And then the other sign is like more specific to trustees, 1286 02:05:24,719 --> 02:05:30,880 managed su like you know that's so I'm going to give you my notes. Um, and then 1287 02:05:29,679 --> 02:05:33,760 when you're sitting in front of the computer and have a little bit of time, 1288 02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:36,800 we can like order the generic signs and I can go and help put them up and then 1289 02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:40,639 we can have a conversation with the team about what we want the nice sign, the 1290 02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:44,719 bigger sign that says whatever we want it to say. Don Dusk, 1291 02:05:43,119 --> 02:05:48,000 » all of that kind of stuff. So, if you don't mind, next time we have a chance. 1292 02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:51,679 Thank you. >> You call me if you can't read what I put 1293 02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:56,320 on there. Thank you. So with that, you guys had told me to 1294 02:05:54,560 --> 02:06:02,480 look at this grant that was available out there that the county sent it out. 1295 02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:08,960 And so I kept sending it back. Todd Hawk, send me the information on it. And 1296 02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:13,040 there's a third party person he sent it to said, "Send her the information." I 1297 02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:17,440 didn't get it. Didn't get it. So I went back to Todd again. Hey, I didn't get 1298 02:06:15,599 --> 02:06:21,760 it. So he said, "Well, I'll check with the guy." So this took multiple weeks. 1299 02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:26,239 front of the guy said, "Oh, the request was in my junk email." I think, "Don't 1300 02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:30,000 you check your junk email?" I check my junk email. I don't know. I got it from 1301 02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:32,800 you a couple of days ago. The thing's due September 1st, so there's no way 1302 02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:35,440 we're going to get it done. >> Oh, wow. Okay. 1303 02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:40,560 » But I believe it's something they offer every year from a scheming watershed. 1304 02:06:38,159 --> 02:06:46,400 We're one of the counties that qualify. And there's two grants. The first grant 1305 02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:50,560 you have to request more than at least 25,000 and they put a million dollars up 1306 02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:54,159 every year. >> Okay. 1307 02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:56,480 » And it covers um 1308 02:06:54,960 --> 02:07:02,400 » roads. >> No, it covers uh 1309 02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:07,760 trails, playground equipment, uh construction or expansion of anything uh 1310 02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:12,880 anything that supports outdoor recreation for people. It doesn't cover 1311 02:07:10,719 --> 02:07:15,599 maintenance or anything like that. >> Sure. 1312 02:07:13,280 --> 02:07:23,280 » And then the second one, which I thought maybe we can, but 1313 02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:27,440 um it ranges from 5,000 to 25,000. But both of those require a 10% match. 1314 02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:30,639 And I know we talked about we didn't want to do a match, but if we are 1315 02:07:29,599 --> 02:07:34,639 interested in either one [clears throat] of these, maybe for next year, we know 1316 02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:38,320 the deadline now. It is going to require a 10% match. 1317 02:07:36,159 --> 02:07:43,760 » Okay. So, I thought interesting if we could get the 10% match. Um, which we 1318 02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:46,960 wouldn't get a million dollars because they're giving them out to multiple 1319 02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:51,199 people, but we might be able to get a couple hundred,000 1320 02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:54,800 » and have to put up like 20,000 for 200 and maybe get the rest of that trial put 1321 02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:59,920 in. >> So, but so we'll look at it again next 1322 02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:06,239 year. Hopefully, they offer it, but we can't make September 1. 1323 02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:10,400 You have to have quotes and everything. So, that's all I have in old business 1324 02:08:08,719 --> 02:08:15,040 and I don't see anything in new business unless anybody else had anything. 1325 02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:18,880 » I did I didn't get the time to get this on the correspondence, but um I got that 1326 02:08:17,599 --> 02:08:22,639 from Todd. >> Oh, reminder about 1327 02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:29,119 » he's good at emails. Yeah, >> this is September 17th is the next Stark 1328 02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:34,159 County Township Association meeting and they're asking that at least one elected 1329 02:08:31,679 --> 02:08:38,400 official be present and it's 1330 02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:43,280 Lake Township Service Center where they're holding it. 1331 02:08:41,199 --> 02:08:47,880 » I mean, as many as want to go, Ken, but you have to have at least one person 1332 02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:47,880 there. 1333 02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:53,599 » So, we can talk about that the next time we meet. 1334 02:08:51,599 --> 02:08:57,360 to make see who's going to attend the visit. 1335 02:08:55,360 --> 02:09:00,639 » So with that, you have something cheap. 1336 02:08:58,639 --> 02:09:03,760 » No, I'll just give them >> with that. I'll take a motion to pay. 1337 02:09:03,199 --> 02:09:06,320 » Second. >> All in favor? 1338 02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:09,560 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 1339 02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:18,560 » Yeah. Yeah, when it's time to like those >> I'm thinking someone like 1340 02:09:16,159 --> 02:09:22,199 no trucking signs down like by the place where the park is at 1341 02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:26,320 some notes in there but good portion of the signs we can order. 1342 02:09:26,079 --> 02:09:29,920 » Yeah. >> And I was going to give it all to Ryan 1343 02:09:27,599 --> 02:09:33,440 to order but I figured if you have a couple minutes to look at that and see 1344 02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:35,920 and then we'll go buy some poles and we'll put some of those generic signs 1345 02:09:35,119 --> 02:09:40,179 up. >> So 1346 02:09:36,239 --> 02:09:43,280 » Oh, we do have a sign. >> [clears throat] 1347 02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:47,440 » Not on the generics. The generic surprise 1348 02:09:45,119 --> 02:09:51,199 Amazon Amazon or online. >> Yeah, the big sign that's got a little 1349 02:09:49,199 --> 02:09:55,040 more going on. I'd like it to kind of cool if we could 1350 02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:55,040 » make