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Okay, good afternoon everyone. Welcome

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to the regular open meeting of the

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Sewish Town Council, Tuesday, August the

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18th at 2 p.m. in council chambers. So,

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could we please have [clears throat] an

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approval of the agenda and there are no

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late items? No. Thank you. Thank you,

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Councelor Bennett, Councelor Chong. All

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in favor? Thank you. and the adoption of

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some minutes, the regular open minutes

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from July the 21st and the special open

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minutes from July the 28th. Could we

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have the adoption councelor King,

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Councelor Potter Rica? All in favor?

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Thank you. So, first off, we have a

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development variance permit application

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DVP 26-02

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for 8 Chardonnay Court and our planner

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um Miss Dwang is online. So, please go

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ahead, Miss Dwang.

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>> Thank you. So, I don't have a a

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PowerPoint presentation for this item

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since we just reviewed it at the last

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council meeting. Um, but just as a quick

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recap, at the last council meeting in

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July, um, council had postponed

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consideration of this item pending

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further information regarding the

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driveway dimensions at the property. Um,

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so staff did end up following up on the

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resolution by undertaking a site visit

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to measure out uh, the driveway and it

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was found that the driveway is

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approximately 6.4 4 m to 6.9 m um as it

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exists between the building wall um to

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the end of the driveway as it extends

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beyond the parcel line but excludes uh

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the sidewalk area of course and uh we

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just want to highlight that despite this

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from a staff perspective uh we just we

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do reiterate that the purpose of the

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provision of off- streetet uh parking

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within the parcel boundaries is

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generally to avoid externalization of

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uses on public lands um and also to

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mitigate potential conflicts associated

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with those. Um, additionally, we do

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remain concerned regarding the potential

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cumulative impacts of similar variance

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requests coming in um, along Chardonnay

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court and the potential approval of

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those requests where this application

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were to be approved. So, uh, we are

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continuing to recommend denial uh, with

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respect to this application. Thank you.

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>> Uh, thank you very much, Miss Dwong. I'm

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going to um ask if the applicant, Miss

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McCay or the applicant's uh um designate

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would like to speak. You have five

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minutes. Thank you.

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>> Thank you, Mayor McCordoff. Um my name

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is Gina McCay. I am the applicant for

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the owner at 8 Chardonnay Court. And

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Terl actually wanted to be here today,

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but she wasn't able to, so she did

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provide a letter that I'll read for her

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on her behalf. Attention to Sue Town

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Council. Thanks for taking the time to

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review my variance request in detail. I

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understand that Ms. Mccay has

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represented my case thoroughly, but I

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believe a letter of self-representation

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will also add some enlightenment to this

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application. One year ago, my two boys

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and I purchased the newly built home at 8 Chardonnay Court. I purchased

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this home in a quiet residential street

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in Paradise in hopes this would be my

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forever bungalow in my retirement and

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later years. In the final negotiations

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of the sale of the house, it was agreed

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in the final offer that a full kitchen

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with all appliances would be added as an

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independent suite in the house which has

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a door connecting to the upstairs. With

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the understanding that this would be

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done lawfully and with permitting, I

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agreed to the sale and purchase the

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home. Based on my single income, it not

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been feasible for me to purchase the

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home without the option of having

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tenants in this independent dwelling.

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With that in mind, my real estate and I

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addressed the legalization of the suite

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and I told her it was paramount to

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moving forward. We were reassured by the

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selling agent that the suite would be

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able to be legalized and met full

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requirements. My largest concern if

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there is damage to the home in an

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independent dwelling, my insurance would

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not cover the cost of the damage. It is

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also important in alignment with my

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morals that we do things right and avoid

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illegal business activities. Upon taking

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ownership of the home, um it was

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incredibly important for me to have the

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suite legalized. Without approval of the

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variance, the secondary suite cannot be

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legalized and the rental income required

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to sustain home home ownership will no

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longer be possible. After I moved into

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the home, I started to legalize the

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suite, but came up with the issue of

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tenants parking on my driveway. I put in

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an application in November last year and

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then was um weeks later was it was made

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clear to me that the reason having

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tenants park in my driveway has become a

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concern is that the town um property is

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um is about onethird of my driveway. Um

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this was a fact that I was never made

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aware of at the time of the sale of the

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home. As we move further into the

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approval, I became aware that the

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builder had not applied for the required

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building permit to build the kitchen in

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the suite, which is another major

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concern to having the suite legalized.

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As the matter continued and the

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terminology in the process became far

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more complex for me to handle on my own,

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I withdrew my application and to

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consider my options. At this point, I

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was advised that Ms. McCay was available

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for hire and could professionally handle

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my application. In this application, my

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neighbors have brought up many valuable

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points and concerns regarding parking on

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the street, and I validate their

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concerns. I'm also in agreement with my

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neighbors about the width of our

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culde-sac road and the ability of

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emergency vehicles to pass and children

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at play, mine being two of them. Um,

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this application is a specific request

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to allow the town to allow my tenant to

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park on the town's portion of my

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driveway and not in the street at all.

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My neighbors have never comp commented

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or complained about my tenants parking

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in the street as it's simply been a

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non-issue and doesn't happen. After the

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last council meeting, my driveway was

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measured and it was proven that there

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was enough room to park three vehicles

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in my driveway. My neighbors will agree

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that over the last year, the tenants

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have been in my suite, they have never

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parked on the street. I also believe

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that my neighbors would agree that only

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a few times have they ever seen my

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company park on the street. That is only

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if it's been a major holiday. If that's

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a concern, my my family is more than

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happy to park on 36th Avenue. The

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application at this variance is

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regarding whether the town is willing to

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allow my tenant to park on their portion

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of the driveway 100% off the street 100%

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of the time. Once again, I appreciate

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your careful consideration of this

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matter and trust you will understand the

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reasoning to have this parking approved

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so it's able to be lawful to have a

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legal suite in my home to manage the

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costs associated with my home to add

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well scrutinized reference checked

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population density to su and to maintain

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a quiet peaceful culde-sac. Uh with kind

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regards Terrell Hector. Now I just

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personally from a professional

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perspective want to take one moment to

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just identify four specific points.

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First council asked that the driveway be

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measured and then the town's um has

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confirmed now that it's four 6.4 to 6.9

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m long which is more than the 6 m

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minimum. The application does not seek

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uh permission for street parking or

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another suite. It seeks a specific sight

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specific variance for the parking

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requirement associated with one

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secondary suite. The precedent uh

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concern it should be considered for

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sure. Um but approval of this variance

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does not create a blanket exemption.

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Each future application will remain

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subject to its own sightsp specific

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assessment. And I just want to remind

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council that the application for the DVP

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was made made in order to address the

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situation that the homeowner became

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aware of after she attempted to obtain a

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business license. It was not made in

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response to a bylaw complaint or for any

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concerns received at town hall because

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of street parking um by the owner's

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tenants. Thank you. Thanks.

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>> Thank you very much, Miss McKay. Um,

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council, does anybody have any questions

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or concerns about this application?

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I have one question and perhaps Miss

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McCay can answer it. Perhaps Miss Dwong

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can. We have heard from several people

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in the culde-sac that there is not just

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one um suite in the basement, but in

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fact there are two. And several people

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sent us emails saying that they're they

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have seen and talked to the two renters

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in the basement. Has can you answer

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that, Miss McCay, or um I'm I'm not sure

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where to go with that information.

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>> Thank you, Mayor McCordov. I actually

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cannot either um um collaborate or deny

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that. I have not seen that portion of

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the basement. I have seen the suite. I

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have not been into the other portion of

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the basement, but the tenant or the

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owner, Ter

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a um roommate who whose roommate whose

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room is in the basement and she can

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access that suite from outside. So, as

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part of the building permit application

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process, the um the owner has no problem

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having that area of the house inspected

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and if anything needs to be brought up

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to code or whatnot, she has no problem

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with that. But there is only one suite

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and she's applying for one suite

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» council. This becomes very confusing

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because we have had numerous uh

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residents on the street that have um

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sent us information that we have to

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consider. and the um the owner of the

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property who owned the whole property at

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one point and did the developing uh of the 18 lots is quite concerned about

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what is happening. Um so um we're this

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is a a difficult um issue to deal with.

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I guess I will go first. I am quite

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concerned about all of the buildings and

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the then the cars and the trucks and

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everything else that could be in there.

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And um I my my I'm tempted to uh go

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along with the recommendation that this

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variance be denied and I am happy to

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listen to anybody else on council who

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would like to speak to this.

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go ahead, counselor Chong.

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>> Thank you. I think me and Jim were just

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having a little bit of a

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» fair enough. Um I think it's important

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to to clarify um this this case here. I

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mean there is some confusion. Uh there

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seems to be a consistent theme through

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all the correspondents and that is a

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concern of um blocking emergency

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vehicles um from entering the culdeac

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because there may be vehicles that are

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parked on the street. However, as as

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staff have confirmed, there is adequate

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space on the driveway for um all three

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vehicles to park on the driveway. And

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that space also aligns with our um

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parking bylaws. The issue here is that

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by the property line, part of that space

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is public even though it's paved exactly

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the same as the rest of the driveway.

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Um, from the aerial

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photographs,

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there is a sidewalk as well, but it

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seems like staff had measured only the

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driveway, and vehicles that park on the

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driveway would not be butdding onto the

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sidewalk either. So, this comes down, in

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my opinion, this comes down to the

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spirit of the law and the letter of the

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law. the spirit of the law,

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this property does comply with having

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adequate space for the parking

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requirements that we have instilled.

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The issue is is the invisible lie. Now

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that is where the letter of the law

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comes into play.

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My larger concern is how this

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development could have

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passed all those checks. And it seems

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like there the owner had done as much of

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her due diligence to check those boxes.

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But as we know with property purchases,

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there's always things that rear ugly

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heads.

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I think that these variances come to

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council for a reason and that is because

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they are case by case determination and

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then none of them are the same and it's

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up to us to make that decision

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and in my opinion this variance I I'm in

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support of the variance because

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it doesn't actually there is minimal to

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no risk of vehicles being parked on the

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side of the street that driveway in all

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intents and purposes is does comply

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except for that invisible eye.

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» Thank you. I appreciate you saying that.

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My concern is I guess that that might

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work for a car if uh we have a truck or

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a motor home or um some of the vehicles

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could be quite a bit longer and

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therefore they would not fit on there

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and that was one of the issues that was

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brought up the last time. Um, but you're

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quite right. It's confusing. We've been

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dealing with it for a month and we've

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had lots and lots of correspondence

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about it. So, is there anybody else who

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would like to weigh in on this? Go

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ahead, council.

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>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Could I just get

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clarity on the width? I'm old school.

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Can you do it in footage for me? The

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width and the length.

334
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>> Maybe we should ask Miss Dwang. She is

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the one who wrote the brief report.

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Could we could you clarify that, please?

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I am just doing the quick math because I

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also don't know it off the top of my

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head. [laughter]

340
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So 6.4 m to feet is 20.99 ft.

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6.9 m to feet is 22.64t.

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» Thank you. Does that help? That would be

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sort of a truck.

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>> So you feel comfortable if there's three

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cars side by side, at least one door in

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each vehicle could open in that width.

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» So with respect to the measurements

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provided, those were actually the

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lengths of the driveway itself, not the

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actual not the width of the driveway

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because the width wasn't what was of uh

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potential concern. It was largely the

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length.

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understand that, but it was presented

355
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that three cars could park there. So, I

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just want to make sure we understand the

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width and the length.

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I do understand about the concern about

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the length. That's what we're talking

360
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about the variance.

361
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Do you have any um any um measurements

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of the width of the driveway,

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Mr. One? Um just looking at the permit

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um it appears that the driveway is

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approximately 7.2 m in width. Um that's

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again approximate because we didn't go

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out and measure um

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>> the side of the driveway to the other

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side of the driveway. Um but a vehicle

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parking space is required to be 2.7 m in

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width uh as per the zoning bylaw

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>> each one. So three times 2.7 m Somebody

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got to figure that out quickly. It

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doesn't sound like it fits. [laughter]

375
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8.1.

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Um, thank you. Is there anyone else who

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has a question or a concern?

378
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No, I'm sorry that the this is just

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council I'm talking to. Um, councelor

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Bennett, would you like to

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>> uh Thank you. Yeah. Where I'm a little

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bit confused is there's three people

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three suites and three cars that are

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parked there now. And basically they all

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fit the driveway and it seems like most

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of all the driveways are the same.

387
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They're all not up to code. They're not

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long enough according to this. So if if

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there is a fourth car and that car is

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parked up in front of the people's in

391
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front of them all the time, I could see

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people have been upset. But if these

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three cars have been parked there and

394
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they're not in people's road when the

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letters I'm reading from here sounds

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more like there's a fourth car that's

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parked on somebody's drive in somebody's

398
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lawn that's that's parked out on the

399
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street but you're saying it's not.

400
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There's three cars parked in the

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driveway. So I'm not sure what exactly

402
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that other car is that fourth car is

403
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that in case another suite comes.

404
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Don't I don't think there was there's

405
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not the two suites. Apparently, there is

406
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the person who lives with the owner has

407
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a ba a basement suite, a basement room.

408
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That's what it sounded like. Who perhaps

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has a car and the owner has a car and

410
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the renter has a car. So, that's three.

411
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Yeah. So, I wouldn't probably need four,

412
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right?

413
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>> Anybody else? Go ahead. Councelor

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Potter.

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>> Thank you. Three to Mong. um in a single

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um

417
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in the way this property was originally

418
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built, what would have been the distance

419
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required for the driveway without um any

420
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requirement for um the secondary suite

421
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or a proposed secondary suite?

422
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» Sorry, was the question uh what was the

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required length at the time that it was

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developed?

425
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>> Length for the depth. Yes. Uh provided

426
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there was no secondary suite or proposal

427
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for secondary suite.

428
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>> So the development would have been

429
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completed prior to the current zoning

430
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bylaw being in existence. I believe uh

431
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zoning bylaw 1085

432
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would have been in place at the time in

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which the development um occurred. Um so

434
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with that in mind, there would have been

435
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a reduced parking uh dimension

436
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that would have been applied. Um,

437
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off the top of my head, I'm not sure.

438
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I'm just pulling it up right now.

439
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So, under zoning bylaw 1085, the

440
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required stall depth would have been 5.8

441
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m.

442
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» Okay, thank you. Um but may just

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um as I'm trying to sort through this I

444
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think I do share the concern of the um

445
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the owner um that you know they uh

446
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appear to have purchased the property

447
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which they were miss um

448
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that they were led to believe by the

449
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selling realtor that they were

450
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purchasing a property with the legal

451
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suite which in fact it is not. I am re

452
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recognizing that that was done um

453
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originally when they went to proceed to

454
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um require a building permit uh for the

455
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purpose of a short-term rental and now

456
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seeking um this parking amendment for a

457
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um legal secondary suite that would

458
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obviously have to be meet the code. I do

459
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share that frustration with them if that

460
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is the case. Um I do share the concern

461
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of the neighbors that you know um their

462
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conver you know their comments and of

463
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course we can't you know without

464
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physically seeing whether or not what

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you know what actually uh fills the

466
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basement of that property um based on

467
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the diagrams um that have been submitted

468
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that's all we have to work with. Um so I

469
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do share both those concerns. However, I

470
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do share the concern also that um you

471
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know the development in existence in

472
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Chara um you know there is various

473
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lengths and depths of the depths of the

474
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parking that's available. Um I did tour

475
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that area last week take a look and see

476
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especially at the proposed property um

477
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that there is concern I think of

478
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vehicles on the overhang as they you

479
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know some definitely could accommodate

480
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that. uh we don't have any knowledge of

481
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any legal or uh secondary suites that we

482
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can verify in that neighborhood and that

483
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is you know obviously another concern

484
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because my my concern moving forward is

485
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how many more situations are we going to

486
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have with this and just the rest of

487
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council I think we got to be a little

488
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cautious as to that consideration moving

489
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forward as to what route we do go down.

490
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» Thank you. Um, so the the lengths

491
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according to the the report range from

492
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4.36 m to 4.53 m. So regardless of which

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version of the bylaw, it would not have

494
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been long enough either. So my

495
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,960
frustration is how is this development?

496
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How did it pass all those checks when

497
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like we knew that the driveway wasn't

498
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long enough period?

499
00:21:17,679 --> 00:21:19,280
So

500
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the an error was made somewhere

501
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and I think it's just fair for us to

502
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grant a variance that allows that error

503
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to be somewhat rectified

504
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because if if we're going to, you know,

505
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put the hammer down according to the

506
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bylaw by dimensions, then technically I

507
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guess that development should never have

508
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passed because the driveway was not long

509
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enough period.

510
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So I guess it's what is council's wish

511
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here

512
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>> and I mean it's unfortunate that the

513
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owner has purchased the house house with

514
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the understanding that it was a an

515
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aillegal suite in the basement and in

516
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fact it was not and that is a problem

517
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that I uh maybe it's not her problem but

518
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it definitely is a problem of people who

519
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are selling and filling out the

520
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paperwork for their properties when

521
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things have not been done properly. And

522
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I'm sure that that um I'm hoping that

523
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doesn't happen often or at all, but it

524
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seems to have in this place. Um I I'm

525
00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:28,799
not sure what you would like to do. So,

526
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we have the option of the of uh the

527
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recommended motion on here. Um or um if

528
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that is not appropriate, then do we have

529
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a motion? Somebody like to make put a

530
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motion on the floor.

531
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[clears throat]

532
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Go ahead.

533
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:56,870
Um, I would like to move uh option

534
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one

535
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that uh the variance be approved but

536
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subject to final inspection to ensure

537
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that there's only one

538
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um [clears throat] suite

539
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in the property.

540
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,400
Thank you.

541
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Have you got that? Um, Mrs. Coulson

542
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or or

543
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:25,200
Mrs. Robinson. Did you get that? Okay,

544
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,576
thank you. Is there a seconder for that?

545
00:23:29,576 --> 00:23:32,230
[clears throat]

546
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,400
Okay, that was not seconded. Is there a

547
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,880
another uh recommendation? Please

548
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,120
move option two.

549
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:48,070
>> I got to support our planner here.

550
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,880
Option two is the recommended motion by

551
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,640
the planner.

552
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,559
Thank you. Is there a seconder for that

553
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:57,039
one?

554
00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:00,720
Thank you. It's been seconded.

555
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,760
Councelor Puerto Rica. Is there any

556
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,280
other comments on this? Then I will call

557
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,640
the question. Um,

558
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:16,159
all in favor of the recommended motion

559
00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:18,159
against.

560
00:24:18,159 --> 00:24:20,480
Thank you. That was a 3 to2 vote. It

561
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,159
carries.

562
00:24:22,159 --> 00:24:25,039
Um, thank you very much. Thank you, Miss

563
00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:28,480
McCay, for coming in. Um, we appreciate

564
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,880
it. It was a very difficult issue to

565
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,960
deal with.

566
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,840
All right, we will move on to

567
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,480
development variance permit. Um DVP

568
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,990
265460197th

569
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,159
Street.

570
00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:50,320
Um Miss Dwong, do you have this one?

571
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,000
>> Yes. And I do have a presentation for

572
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,880
this one which I will

573
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,600
>> Thank you.

574
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:59,957
>> try my best to share.

575
00:24:59,967 --> 00:25:01,200
[clears throat]

576
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,559
>> All right. Are you seeing the

577
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:04,480
presentation on the screen?

578
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,320
>> Yes, we are. Thank you.

579
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,840
>> Perfect. So, I'll go ahead and get

580
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,159
started. Um, so yes, this is uh this

581
00:25:10,159 --> 00:25:14,320
item relates to file number DVP 2605.

582
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,880
Uh, this relates to a property located

583
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,960
at 460197th

584
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,320
Street. So, this is actually the

585
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,000
development that's known as Mojave

586
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,640
Estates. Uh, the OCP designation that

587
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,159
applies to this property is medium

588
00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:27,919
density residential and the zoning that

589
00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:29,679
applies is medium density residential

590
00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:32,320
one sight specific. The property is

591
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,600
approximately 1.41 hectares in size. Um,

592
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,200
and this application actually speaks to

593
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,600
phases 2, three, and four specifically

594
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,080
of the Mojave State Estates development.

595
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,400
Phase one is actually already complete

596
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,480
and is technically a separate parcel

597
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,120
currently. Um, and it includes 12 town

598
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:54,789
houses.

599
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:57,039
So, um, I'll just give a bit of a

600
00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:58,400
background since there's been quite a

601
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,080
bit of permit history as council may

602
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,919
recall with respect to this particular

603
00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:04,559
property. So, this starts back in 2022

604
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:06,400
when a multif family residential

605
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,600
development permit uh number 21-12 was

606
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,080
issued for a multif family residential

607
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,400
development at the property. Then in

608
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,960
2024, building permits were issued uh

609
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,080
for three 4unit townhouse buildings as

610
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,400
well as uh civil works and two retaining

611
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,760
walls at the property. Now, in January

612
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,279
2026, a new medium d or multif family

613
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:30,559
residential development permit

614
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:32,240
application was received in order to

615
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,159
revise the site layout and landscaping

616
00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:36,400
plans uh due to changes that were

617
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,799
required uh to be made by the developer

618
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:41,679
to the internal access roadway.

619
00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:43,919
Following that, in February 2026, a

620
00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:46,320
phase strata develop a plan declaration

621
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,320
for a form P was approved by the

622
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,480
approving officer in order to allow the

623
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,080
development to be completed over four

624
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,320
phases, which kind of explains why the

625
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,640
completed phase is its own parcel

626
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,360
currently. Um once the phases start to

627
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:00,640
get completed, they'll become

628
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,000
amalgamated um into the last phase until

629
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000
it's just one property at the end

630
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,440
essentially. Uh so most recently in

631
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,840
March 2026, uh two building permit

632
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,919
applications were received by the town,

633
00:27:13,919 --> 00:27:15,279
each of which were proposing to

634
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,679
construct a 4unit townhouse building, so

635
00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:20,080
eight units in total.

636
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,080
So as council may recall, uh this

637
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,520
property and development have been

638
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,600
before council actually twice since

639
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,559
2024. Specifically, council had adopted

640
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:31,440
zoning amendment bylaw number 1395.02 2

641
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,840
in 2024 and zoning amendment bylaw

642
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,600
number 1395.12

643
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,440
just last month. Uh both of these

644
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,279
collectively provided sight specific

645
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:40,960
provisions for the property in order to

646
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,799
allow for secondary suites within duplex

647
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:45,120
or townhouse dwelling units and to allow

648
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,360
for the construction of one duplex at

649
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,440
the property. These amendments and the

650
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,279
permitting background uh that was just

651
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,440
detailed in the last slide um kind of

652
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,520
just highlight the extensive work that's

653
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,760
been done in the planning and permitting

654
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,070
of this particular development.

655
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,480
So as I mentioned this development is to

656
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,399
be completed in a phased manner with

657
00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:09,279
four phases total. Um at this time it is

658
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:10,720
understood that the development of the

659
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,039
property is well underway uh with the

660
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,200
access road and servicing which was

661
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,399
within phase one uh being completed as

662
00:28:18,399 --> 00:28:20,399
well as those 12 townhouse units that I

663
00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:21,919
mentioned uh within phase one being

664
00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:25,039
complete. Uh phase 2 is currently in

665
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,039
progress and its completion will see

666
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:28,720
that eight townhouse units be

667
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,399
constructed and the completion of this

668
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:32,559
phase is contingent on the subject

669
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,640
variance request uh in order to proceed

670
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,000
as currently proposed.

671
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000
So specifically the townhouse units

672
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,520
within phase 2 comprise uh garages which

673
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,520
in undertaking a zoning compliance

674
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,840
assessment can only accommodate one

675
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,919
parking space to the minimum dimensions

676
00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:51,840
that are set out in the zoning bylaw.

677
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,480
Now in total there um it is proposed

678
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,640
that eight parking spaces be provided

679
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,480
for the eight dwelling units. So one for

680
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,120
each dwelling unit. While no building

681
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,880
permits have yet been received for the

682
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,720
dwelling units within phases three and

683
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,399
four, it is understood that they would

684
00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:08,159
each contain at least a single car

685
00:29:08,159 --> 00:29:10,720
garage. And as it relates to zoning

686
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,279
bylaw compliance, um it is noted that

687
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:17,200
zoning bylaw number 1395 uh 2024 uh

688
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,840
requires the provision of 1.5 off

689
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,520
streetet vehicle parking spaces per

690
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,360
dwelling unit specifically for town

691
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,080
houses. So this would equate to actually

692
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,320
a total of 12 parking spaces being

693
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,559
required for the eight townhouse units

694
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:34,080
in phase 2 and 42 parking spaces being

695
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,320
required for the 28 townhouse units in

696
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,960
phases three and four. Accordingly,

697
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,640
the applicant has requested to reduce

698
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,159
the off- streetet parking requirements

699
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:47,120
from 1.5 spaces per townhouse dwelling

700
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,840
unit to one. And it should be noted um

701
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,679
that the request encompasses the

702
00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:54,080
remainder of the townhouse uh units that

703
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,520
are proposed within the overarching

704
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,120
development. So, this actually includes

705
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,320
36 townhouse units uh in total within

706
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,279
phases 2, three, and four. Phase one, as

707
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:04,799
I mentioned, is already built out and is

708
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:08,799
not included in this request.

709
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:11,360
So with respect to off- streetet vehicle

710
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,440
parking, it is required to be provided

711
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,960
as a means of ensuring that there is

712
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,880
adequate on-site parking to support the

713
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,919
planned use of a property um and that

714
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:22,240
public spaces such as street parking are

715
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,000
not supporting private uses. And this

716
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,600
ultimately acts then to mitigate

717
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,039
conflicts that might result from

718
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:30,320
inadequate site parking provided. Now

719
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,399
with this in mind again we expect that

720
00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:33,919
property owners provide the parking

721
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,600
necessary for use on the property is

722
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,640
intended to be carried out on.

723
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,559
With respect to building stratas uh so

724
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,399
that includes apartments, duplexes and

725
00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:45,919
town houses uh that typically provide

726
00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:47,520
these typically provide parking within

727
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,520
either common property. So that's shared

728
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,279
between property owners or limited

729
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:53,279
common property which is designated to

730
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,360
specific property owners. So some

731
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,960
examples that we typically see with

732
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,799
respect to parking provided for building

733
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,919
stratas um these include parkades,

734
00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:04,559
surface level parking areas or where you

735
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:06,320
might have a duplex or townhouse that

736
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,720
has a garage or a driveway um parking

737
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,480
can be provided within those garages or

738
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,110
driveways as limited common property.

739
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,520
It is important to note that of course

740
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,039
while the requirements surrounding the

741
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:20,480
provision of off- streetet parking serve

742
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,880
an important function when it comes to

743
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,399
conflict prevention and ensuring that

744
00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:25,520
properties are actually able to

745
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,720
accommodate the uses that they're

746
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,919
intended to um support. The imposition

747
00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:32,000
of overly ownorous parking requirements

748
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,600
can hinder development by essentially

749
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,679
limiting the overall site design and

750
00:31:35,679 --> 00:31:38,000
layout as well as buildable area on a

751
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,120
property. Um, so this sentiment was

752
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,880
highlighted in the provincial policy

753
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,640
manual and site standards document which

754
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,000
local governments were required to

755
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,320
consider in the adoption of zoning

756
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,840
bylaws that relate to the delivery of

757
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,159
small-scale multi-unit housing. Uh,

758
00:31:52,159 --> 00:31:54,159
specifically, the province has indicated

759
00:31:54,159 --> 00:31:56,559
that on-site parking requirements uh can

760
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:58,480
often have the greatest influence on the

761
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,000
viability of small-scale multi-unit

762
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,519
housing forms, especially when you're

763
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,840
considering the small lot sizes that are

764
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,640
found in urban and suburban areas. With

765
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,559
that in mind, the province uh has

766
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,240
encouraged local governments to minimize

767
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,360
parking, particularly in areas where uh

768
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,080
transit options are available. And I do

769
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,200
want to point out that while this

770
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,720
property was not within a restricted

771
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,240
zone at the time in which small scale

772
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,840
multi-unit housing requirements were

773
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,919
included in the local government act, um

774
00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:25,519
this general principle seemed to be

775
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:27,440
relevant to multif family residential

776
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,039
developments as well.

777
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:32,799
So in this particular case, it is

778
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:34,399
understood that the property is located

779
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:37,279
approximately 250 meters from a bus stop

780
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,799
uh for line 41. Um and this is located

781
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,200
along 89th Street between 97th Street

782
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,279
and Primrose Lane. Uh so that's seen to

783
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:47,919
provide an alternate uh transportation

784
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:49,440
option for residents within that

785
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,760
development as it gets built out. As

786
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,760
such, we do see that this is this has

787
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,279
potential to mitigate or reduce

788
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,360
potential negative impacts of a parking

789
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,750
reduction at this particular property.

790
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,960
Additionally, um it is noted um that the

791
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,799
development of this property is greatly

792
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:08,960
limited. Um and that's largely because

793
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,799
of the previous requirements pertaining

794
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:12,480
to the way in which the road alignment

795
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,960
was to be designed and requirements for

796
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,519
servicing to be installed. Um, I've

797
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:18,960
previously mentioned this in our

798
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120
discussion regarding amendment bylaw

799
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,720
number 1395.12 earlier this year, but as

800
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,720
part of the 2024 building permit

801
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,039
process, the de the developer had uh

802
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:30,799
previously entered into a servicing

803
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:32,880
agreement with the town, which had

804
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,000
required that they undertake

805
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,440
construction of the on and off-site

806
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,600
works in accordance with approved civil

807
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,200
drawings. So, the works that were

808
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,360
completed on site included individual

809
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,799
service connections that were based on

810
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,039
the location of the dwelling units as

811
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:46,559
they were proposed. And with that in

812
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,399
mind, any revisions to the site layout

813
00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:49,840
and building envelopes would likely

814
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,720
require um a fairly lengthy

815
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,559
administrative uh and financially

816
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:59,029
burdensome processes. [clears throat]

817
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,279
And I did want to just highlight um kind

818
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:03,840
of just the sight specific context here.

819
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,240
Um, as you can see, I've circled uh the

820
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,560
location of those town houses as they're

821
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,760
to be constructed within phase two. Um,

822
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,520
they are located kind of right up

823
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,200
against the access road, which is seen

824
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,679
to limit how uh their building envelopes

825
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,879
can be altered due to the um higher

826
00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:26,399
elevation of the road and the wall um

827
00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:27,679
that would be right behind these

828
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:31,190
properties.

829
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,760
So on the other hand, we do recognize

830
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,159
that um council had considered parking

831
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,560
reductions already um during the time in

832
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,399
which the zoning bylaw update project

833
00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:42,480
had taken place. And at that time, off-

834
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,480
streetet parking requirements that were

835
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,480
applicable to townhouse units had been

836
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,280
reduced from 1.75 spaces per townhouse

837
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,760
dwelling unit to 1.5

838
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,520
uh spaces per dwelling unit.

839
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,119
Additionally, and as we've highlighted

840
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:56,560
previously, the parking requirements

841
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,240
that were adopted in uh the current

842
00:34:58,240 --> 00:34:59,760
version of the zoning bylaw generally

843
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,079
reflect uh the rural environment that

844
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,000
the town is located within. Uh

845
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,599
specifically, there is generally a

846
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:07,599
greater reliance on private vehicles to

847
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:09,680
get around and there's a tendency to use

848
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,599
larger vehicles as well.

849
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,520
That said, we do also note that the

850
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,320
zoning bylaw requires 1.5 parking spaces

851
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040
per apartments and uh townhouse dwelling

852
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,720
units, but actually only requires one

853
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,720
parking space per single detached

854
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,680
dwelling and duplex dwelling unit. Uh

855
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,079
and in fact, the proposed duplex units

856
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:31,520
within phase three of this same

857
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,119
development would actually only require

858
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:34,880
one parking space to be provided per

859
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,880
unit, which effectively sets a different

860
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,560
parking standard despite being within

861
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,800
the same overarching development, which

862
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,160
is largely similar in form. Um now,

863
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,839
while greater parking requirements would

864
00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:47,760
generally accommodate visitor parking,

865
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,280
um and the variation in the number of

866
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,760
cars per dwelling, it is noted that the

867
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,000
development does propose uh five visitor

868
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,760
stalls within phase one of the

869
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,870
development.

870
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,720
And lastly, it should be noted that in

871
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,400
response to the referral of this

872
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,839
application on relevant internal

873
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:05,839
departments, um the fire department had

874
00:36:05,839 --> 00:36:07,680
expressed concerns with respect to the

875
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,520
proposed development uh specifically

876
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,560
that uh there was the potential for

877
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,720
vehicles to encroach into the internal

878
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:16,079
roadway given the length of the

879
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,560
individual driveways uh being fairly

880
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,880
short and the potential impact then on

881
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,520
congestion and emergency access. Um, but

882
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,880
I do want to highlight that this

883
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,560
variance request does not include a

884
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,000
variance uh for in tandem parking and

885
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,599
therefore the issuance of this variance

886
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,760
as proposed would not expressly permit

887
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,000
vehicles to park in tandem on uh these

888
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,280
individual lots. So with this in mind uh

889
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,359
we are requesting council's direction

890
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:43,599
with respect to this uh particular DVP

891
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:45,200
application. Uh for the reasons

892
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,680
previously listed, we are recommending

893
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560
approval. Um, but council does always

894
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,880
have the option to deny the application

895
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,920
as well. Thank you.

896
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,000
>> U, thank you very much, Miss Dwong. This

897
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:05,680
is confusing because we have had um this particular um um application come

898
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,040
back several times for variances. Um I

899
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,760
know that it says in your report that

900
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,040
there are five visitor stalls for phase

901
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,720
one. Does that mean that there will be

902
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:21,680
um visitor stalls as well, the same

903
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,000
number for phases 2, three, and four?

904
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,079
Uh at this time, the developer hasn't

905
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:29,359
indicated whether there would be

906
00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:32,000
additional visitor parking spaces within

907
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,920
the uh future phases of this

908
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,720
development.

909
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,280
>> That would be interesting to know. And

910
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,760
my concern is cuz I drive by this road

911
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,800
all the time on my way down to my house,

912
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:50,000
there is one road in and it's not really

913
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,720
visible from the road from the highway.

914
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,599
So you sort of you have to go in and

915
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:58,720
then go down as shown in the in in the

916
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:03,280
drawing. Um and obviously just one road

917
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,079
back out um for vehicles. I'm wondering

918
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:11,520
on the property, are there any other

919
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,119
exits to either walk off of the property

920
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:20,000
um or do you have to go come back up the

921
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,880
road to the highway in order to walk

922
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,520
along and go down to the to the bus

923
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,040
stop, which is not a 20 minute every 20

924
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,560
minute bus stop. It um it goes a couple

925
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,560
of times a day, I think, and it sort of

926
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,599
depends. Um, so it's not something that

927
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,960
you could count on to get back and forth

928
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,480
um to school or work or or or anything,

929
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,200
I don't think. And my other concern is

930
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,200
that if these all of these um um condos

931
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,640
down here have an accessory suite in the

932
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,359
basement then, which we allowed back

933
00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:00,640
then, then there's a need for obviously

934
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,079
more vehicle parking. I assume one in

935
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:06,480
the garage and one on the on the the

936
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,119
apron in front. Is that correct? Do you

937
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:10,880
So, can you answer that question? Is

938
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,240
there any exit off of the property other

939
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:18,320
than going up the road to the highway?

940
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,839
>> Uh, for that first question, I would

941
00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:21,359
have to refer back to the development

942
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,520
permit plans um to see if there is any

943
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,480
pedestrian access points and pathways.

944
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,000
Um, so I'm not sure off the top of my

945
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,320
head for that one. Uh but with respect

946
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,000
to the secondary suite question, even

947
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,320
though it is permitted by zoning, um

948
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,240
they would still have to prove out the

949
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,880
provision of adequate parking for those

950
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,800
to be actually permitted through the

951
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,640
building permit process. So if there's

952
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,480
not enough space on their individual

953
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,720
like limited common property areas to

954
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,480
provide for a secondary suite parking,

955
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,079
they cannot get a secondary suite.

956
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:51,280
>> Okay.

957
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,359
>> Thank you. Anybody else? Go ahead.

958
00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:54,560
Councelor Kanger,

959
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,640
>> the road going in and out, is that would

960
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,720
that become a public road in the future

961
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:02,480
or is that kind of private?

962
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,720
>> That would be a private uh road.

963
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,960
>> So, if there's cars parked in front of

964
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,440
houses and the fire department can't get

965
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:17,190
by, what do you suppose would happen?

966
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,640
» I'm not sure if I can answer that

967
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,960
question in its entirety. Generally,

968
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,040
when it comes to things like shared

969
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,200
common property strata roads, the

970
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,040
stratas themselves would be responsible

971
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,000
for ensuring um that they're being used

972
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:36,630
appropriately.

973
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,000
» Who's next?

974
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,200
>> Councelor Puerto Rica.

975
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,720
>> Thank you, Bishop. Um Mr. Wong. Um last

976
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:45,200
time, um the developer came to council

977
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,079
with regards to secondary suites. um

978
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,720
they were, if I could be wrong here, but

979
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:52,160
I believe they had said that they had

980
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,720
four off streetet sites per property or

981
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,200
per unit and as we're seeing that

982
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,760
clearly is not the case anymore. Um but

983
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,280
obviously the justified decision for

984
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,040
allowing secondary suites in there. Um

985
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,480
so is there that much of a significant

986
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,079
change over the course? My understanding

987
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:09,839
is right through from phase one to the

988
00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:12,000
end of phases that they were able to

989
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:18,950
support for offstream sites per unit.

990
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,520
I'm unclear as to how much the parking

991
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,319
arrangements would have uh changed over

992
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:26,000
the course of the years. I understand

993
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,839
that phase one would have included

994
00:41:27,839 --> 00:41:29,440
secondary suites. This current phase

995
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,960
does not actually include any secondary

996
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,480
suites within the townhouse units. So

997
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,760
those wouldn't have to be accommodated

998
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,160
in the same way. Um so

999
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,560
and phase three and four have not been

1000
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,359
applied for yet. So that would have to

1001
00:41:43,359 --> 00:41:46,720
be considered. Um, so it's only in phase

1002
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,400
one that they've asked for a secondary

1003
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,520
suite. Okay, fair enough. I thank Thank

1004
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,800
you. Um, it's still kind of confusing.

1005
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,640
Anybody else want to go ahead, counselor

1006
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,359
Bennett?

1007
00:41:57,359 --> 00:42:02,710
>> I just like to move option number one.

1008
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:08,309
» Is there a seconder for that one?

1009
00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:10,079
» You have one more qu.

1010
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,319
>> Is there a seconder? You'll second it.

1011
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:17,670
Okay, then you have a question.

1012
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,240
» Um, thank you again for you, Mr. Wong.

1013
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,000
Just clarification. Um, and I'm just

1014
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,200
trying to find the drawing here and it

1015
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,920
probably is different.

1016
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,319
Um, in one of the renderings here where

1017
00:42:28,319 --> 00:42:32,240
it shows the depth of the stalls at

1018
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:36,400
just find that page here

1019
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,359
be different for Shannon.

1020
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:41,920
>> The different phases are different.

1021
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,520
drawing view and

1022
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,599
where it says driveway parking and it

1023
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,079
shows a depth of 2.7 m and a width of

1024
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:55,510
5.7. Is that correct?

1025
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,359
» And you're referring to the proposed off

1026
00:42:57,359 --> 00:42:59,760
street parking plan, correct?

1027
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,240
>> Uh this is Yeah. So it's referencing DV

1028
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:07,599
606 of of the actual development permit.

1029
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:08,800
>> Yes. So those are the measurements that

1030
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,400
the developer would have provided. But I

1031
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,359
do want to be clear that this

1032
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:15,359
application does not request the

1033
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:19,040
allowance for in tandem parking. So you

1034
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,520
it wouldn't actually be able to provide

1035
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,599
the in tandem parking within that

1036
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,160
driveway.

1037
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,190
>> Okay.

1038
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,319
And go ahead, councelor Chong. And

1039
00:43:34,319 --> 00:43:36,319
then with some rough calculations with

1040
00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:38,560
page six of six, if you were to extend

1041
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,599
the 2.7 to the edge of lane, it would be

1042
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:44,640
approximately only 5 m

1043
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,800
roughly if I'm assuming everything is to

1044
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,440
scale. Um, which is far below our

1045
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,839
requirements regardless.

1046
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:57,440
But uh it seems as council may be in a

1047
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,240
bit of a pickle with this variance

1048
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,160
seeing as how the previous variance was

1049
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,240
denied and they're along the same

1050
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,480
spirit.

1051
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,560
>> I see it as a different

1052
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,839
>> Oh, it's it's

1053
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:11,359
>> a different issue, but never mind. Go

1054
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:11,760
ahead.

1055
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,400
>> Zoned RS1, which does allow for a

1056
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,119
secondary suite if parking requirements

1057
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:19,520
and all the other requirements um are

1058
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,800
fulfilled as well. Um,

1059
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,359
this one is is a challenge mainly

1060
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:29,760
because to I guess triple check, there

1061
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,359
are no known stipulations for additional

1062
00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:37,200
visitor parking stalls uh in the current

1063
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,800
plans.

1064
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,599
Mong,

1065
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:43,839
>> that's correct. outside of phase one

1066
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:45,760
where they're providing visitor parking.

1067
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,000
Um it has not been um we've not been

1068
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,520
informed whether there was going to be

1069
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,839
visitor parking in the uh remaining

1070
00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:56,870
phases,

1071
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,599
» but we're working on phase two right

1072
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:01,520
now. Am I correct? So they've obviously

1073
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,240
got the okay to do that and there has

1074
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,480
been nothing said about visitor parking

1075
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,640
in phase two when as when the

1076
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,000
development permit was given.

1077
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,430
Correct.

1078
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,856
» Tricky, isn't it?

1079
00:45:22,866 --> 00:45:24,240
[sighs]

1080
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,720
Reduce off streetet parking requirements

1081
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:30,079
for townhouse units. So, it's I know

1082
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:33,119
there is and it's been seconded. So,

1083
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:35,520
it's to reduce off-street vehicle

1084
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,160
parking requirements for townhouse

1085
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,680
units.

1086
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,240
Does that mean all of them?

1087
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,640
So, we've got some in there right now

1088
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,960
and the second phase is being worked on,

1089
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,341
but three and four are not.

1090
00:45:52,341 --> 00:45:54,390
[sighs]

1091
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,440
I don't know.

1092
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,480
All right. Are we We don't seem to have

1093
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,000
any other questions. So, I'm going to um

1094
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,599
to call the question, which is um the

1095
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:10,480
recommended motion that the reduce the

1096
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,359
off- streetet vehicle parking limits be

1097
00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:21,030
approved. All in favor?

1098
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,319
Okay, that has not been approved. Um

1099
00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:28,319
that was a 3 to2 vote again and um so my

1100
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:31,599
assumption is that the uh the owner of

1101
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:33,599
the property will need to come back and

1102
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,680
have a look at that again. Is that

1103
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,670
correct, Miss Dwang?

1104
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,400
» I may look to Miss Coulson on this item

1105
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:49,829
in terms of process.

1106
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:51,599
» Yeah, I'm I'm sorry. I'm not prepared

1107
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,200
for that question. And the one thing I

1108
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,400
will say is that um this property has

1109
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,119
been uh disadvantaged in its options

1110
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:00,560
going forward because of that

1111
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,400
requirement that was u made at the

1112
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,839
outset to pre-ervice all the lots. So

1113
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:08,720
the underground utility is all in place.

1114
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,880
Making changes at this point is very

1115
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,160
difficult for the developer.

1116
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,760
>> Um I yes I read that I get that as well.

1117
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,319
I think that there's sounds to me like

1118
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:22,400
there's a couple of other concerns in

1119
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,319
here as well off streetet parking which

1120
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:27,040
has not been addressed for something and

1121
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,839
so I'd hate to see us say well let's

1122
00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:33,040
bring it down um and then we discover

1123
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,800
that um there is no off- streetet

1124
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,119
parking and there's one road in and out

1125
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,560
so I think it's not an easy thing to um

1126
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,480
to adopt

1127
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,079
all right thank you we have did you have

1128
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:47,599
a question go ahead

1129
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:51,839
So, procedurally, if option one has

1130
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:55,599
if that motion has been struck down, um

1131
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:58,960
does a motion need to be voted on or or

1132
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,280
moved in order to move forward with this

1133
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,160
case or what happens now?

1134
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,319
>> If the developer can bring an alternate

1135
00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:08,240
plan forward for council's

1136
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:10,400
consideration, uh we don't need to do

1137
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,839
anything further with this.

1138
00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:14,319
>> Thank you.

1139
00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:18,000
>> Okay. Thank you. We will now move on to

1140
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,440
the um Miss Mrs. Keith

1141
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:33,910
the proposed fire department budget.

1142
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,079
I have a short presentation for the

1143
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:39,680
proposed budget um for you. Uh so

1144
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,520
annually we bring forward the budget

1145
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,280
earlier on in the year uh given that

1146
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,440
it's um a shared service between

1147
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,640
ourselves uh the Indian band and the

1148
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,280
rural fire protection district. Just a

1149
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,760
little background here um the 2027 to

1150
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,640
2031 fire department forecast is built

1151
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,000
from the 2026 base budget and applies

1152
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,400
category specific inflation assumptions

1153
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,040
only. These inflation factors are

1154
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,559
applied to the operating revenues and

1155
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:09,359
expenses. The forecast also incorporates

1156
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:11,760
planning for capital projects, reserve

1157
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,680
transfers, grant funding, and borrowing

1158
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,359
which are identified in the capital

1159
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:18,630
plan.

1160
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,880
Revisiting the um the comment made

1161
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,520
regarding the shared service. There we

1162
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,960
go. Um the fire department provides fire

1163
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,480
protection to the town of Aoyus, the

1164
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,000
Asus Indian Band and the ASOS fire um

1165
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,240
rural fire protection district. Under

1166
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:35,680
the current fire protection agreements,

1167
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,680
cost sharing is based on the 2026

1168
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,960
assessment values as follows.

1169
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,400
We have the town of Aoyus at 59.4%.

1170
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,680
The ASOS Indian man sits at 19.3 and the

1171
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,520
Assaurus rural fire protection district

1172
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:55,190
at 21.3.

1173
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,880
The slide here just talks basically

1174
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,240
about the revenue and the funding

1175
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:01,440
forecasts. uh compares throughout 2026

1176
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,520
base throughout 2031. Uh for 2027, we

1177
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,079
show total revenues at 2.3 million,

1178
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:11,839
which is up 251,000 or 11% compound with

1179
00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:15,040
the 2026 base budget. Please keep in

1180
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,240
mind this isn't an 11.8% increase. That

1181
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,480
includes the capital funding which will

1182
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,880
be a transfer from reserves. And you can

1183
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,800
see that's up significantly from last

1184
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,359
year. Everything else is based purely on

1185
00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:30,870
inflation.

1186
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,720
The expense forecast is listed here and

1187
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:35,040
it shows a comparison between the 2026

1188
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,839
base all the way through to 2031 and

1189
00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:40,240
highlighting the larger expense items

1190
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:42,559
which we have our wages and benefits,

1191
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:44,559
our debt charges, and the reserve

1192
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:46,400
contribution. Again, the reserve

1193
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,920
contribution just shows what would be

1194
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,520
brought out of our reserves to help fund

1195
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,990
the capital plan.

1196
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,920
into the capital plan timeline. We've

1197
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,559
identified uh projects as follows. We

1198
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:01,119
show in 2027 the marine rescue craft

1199
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:03,920
aerial apparatus as well as a command

1200
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,520
truck. Uh 2028 we have paving

1201
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,599
turnarounds the radio and replacement uh

1202
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:13,359
sorry radio replacement. My good have my

1203
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:15,520
glasses on. It's a little narrow [gasps]

1204
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,400
here. Uh 2029 we have fire engine

1205
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,400
replacement which is the uh the larger

1206
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,319
expenditure we have over the 5-year plan

1207
00:51:22,319 --> 00:51:25,920
projection. um 20 the next year we have

1208
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,680
2030. We have the uh car 193 rescue uh

1209
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,000
replacement as well with nothing planned

1210
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,349
at this point for 2031.

1211
00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:39,440
Reserve forecast shows what we uh

1212
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,520
proposed to contribute to the reserves

1213
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,359
and again showing what we're taking out

1214
00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:45,599
of reserves to help uh fund those

1215
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:47,839
projects. Um you can see the big dip

1216
00:51:47,839 --> 00:51:50,800
there in 2029 which is uh with regards

1217
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:57,990
to the larger fire truck replacement.

1218
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,680
Total revenues and expenses both

1219
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,160
increased by approximately 251. Again as

1220
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,119
in the previous slide uh this 11.8% is

1221
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:08,640
not an actual 11.8% increase but just

1222
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,040
showing how we are going to fund uh

1223
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,400
capital through our reserves.

1224
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,829
Our

1225
00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:22,400
budget drivers and considerations are same as every every year. Um wages

1226
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,440
and benefits our primary operating

1227
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,559
driver for um our annual costs 3.5%. We

1228
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,520
have debt charges which remain uh fixed

1229
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,720
from year to year from MFA. Uh we have

1230
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:38,319
our reserve contribution which has

1231
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:40,079
increases steadily to help fund our

1232
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:42,559
capital and equipment replacements. Our

1233
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:45,520
capital plan uh planning is based on um

1234
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,680
what we can afford uh year after year

1235
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,280
through our reserves and any type of

1236
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,720
grants we can we can uh receive and in

1237
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:55,359
final review inflation assumptions are

1238
00:52:55,359 --> 00:52:57,839
used uh cap capital estimates at this

1239
00:52:57,839 --> 00:52:59,680
point grants and reserve funding will be

1240
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,640
reviewed before adoption. Adoption for

1241
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,720
this budget would occur um as it when

1242
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:06,480
it's amalgamated with our five-year plan

1243
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:07,760
which will be brought forward at the end

1244
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,589
of the year.

1245
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:13,760
Uh before council, we have the option to

1246
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,640
approve uh and proceed with the proposed

1247
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,960
fire department five-year plan or

1248
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,630
request change.

1249
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,280
» Thank you.

1250
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,619
very much. Um this is a

1251
00:53:25,619 --> 00:53:26,720
[clears throat] different way of having

1252
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:28,880
it presented that one than we have. So

1253
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,960
thank you. This um just it was

1254
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,119
interesting to look through and and uh

1255
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:34,800
and see the way that you've presented

1256
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,400
it. I appreciate it. Um, is there

1257
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,119
anybody who has any questions or

1258
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:45,680
concerns of Mrs. Ke? Go ahead.

1259
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,319
Uh, sounds like some pretty big numbers.

1260
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:50,079
Just in layman's term about how much

1261
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:52,160
would it cost the public in a tax

1262
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,640
increase from 26 to 27.

1263
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,240
>> Currently, we're not showing any type of

1264
00:53:58,240 --> 00:53:59,680
tax increase. We're just showing the

1265
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,760
inflationary um just the inflation

1266
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,400
projections for the next five years. And

1267
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,760
that's how we would fund the capital

1268
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,400
plan as well as the operating.

1269
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,480
>> So it kind of shows 2.8. Have I read it

1270
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:10,960
correct?

1271
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,559
>> Correct.

1272
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:15,200
>> Okay. Thank you.

1273
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200
>> Anybody else have any other questions,

1274
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,400
concerns? Is there anybody who would

1275
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,359
like to go ahead councelor Bennett

1276
00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:25,920
>> after after this is done and it's sent

1277
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,400
to the So Indian Band as well as

1278
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,400
regional district for approval. Right.

1279
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,079
Normally what we do is for review we

1280
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:36,079
would take it to um our rural friends

1281
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:37,920
and we would have a small presentation

1282
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,920
for them through the the fireh hall as

1283
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,240
well as we present it to the sorry man

1284
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:44,000
with the option for them to also join

1285
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,470
and to hear the presentation.

1286
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,599
» Councelor Chong,

1287
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,760
>> thank you. Um so the fire engine

1288
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,240
replacement um budget for 2029

1289
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:58,880
it's uh 1.5 million. Is that today's

1290
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,839
estimates or is that 2029 estimates for

1291
00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:04,000
costing?

1292
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,160
>> Yeah. Um through the through the mayor

1293
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,960
to councelor Chong those are estimates based on the current apparatus

1294
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,400
that we have in our fleet. So the most

1295
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,800
recent apparatus that we purchased uh as

1296
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,920
well as inflation as estimated or given

1297
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,800
to us as an estimate through uh

1298
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,720
distributors and manufacturers through

1299
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,680
sales folks. So that 1.5 million is a

1300
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,480
very good uh I don't want to say guess

1301
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,400
but it's a very good estimate at what we

1302
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,079
will be looking at spending to replace

1303
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:37,750
our most recent purchase.

1304
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,480
And then just for for clarification,

1305
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,640
when we do support uh BC Wildfire with

1306
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,079
efforts in in wildfire mitigation, um

1307
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:51,680
there is, for lack of a better term,

1308
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,880
compensation. Um whereabouts does that

1309
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,200
with that fit in in terms of the uh the

1310
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,799
budget and the revenue?

1311
00:56:00,799 --> 00:56:02,720
>> We do show that and that's in the first

1312
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:04,799
part under recoveries. So, you'll see

1313
00:56:04,799 --> 00:56:07,359
our third line on the more detailed

1314
00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:09,520
version of the five-year plan forecast.

1315
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,200
There's other revenue, fire department

1316
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,440
recoveries, and that's whenever we um

1317
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,680
visit a scene if there's an event, as

1318
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,079
well as any type of support we provide

1319
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:21,839
for for wildfire would go into that

1320
00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:24,079
category.

1321
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:26,960
You're welcome.

1322
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,559
Okay. Is there somebody who would like

1323
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:34,710
to make a motion here?

1324
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:36,869
Everybody speak up at once here.

1325
00:56:36,869 --> 00:56:37,440
[laughter]

1326
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,559
Go ahead.

1327
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:41,680
>> I move option one

1328
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,720
>> that we approve the proposed fire

1329
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,799
department budget. Is are you seconding

1330
00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:49,359
that? Are there any other questions,

1331
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:52,400
concerns? I will call a question. All in

1332
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,160
favor?

1333
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,480
Thank you very much, Mrs. Keith. That

1334
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,160
passed.

1335
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:03,200
All right. Next is Mr. Davis, who I'm

1336
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,480
assuming is Oh, you're going to do it

1337
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,119
for [laughter] Thanks, Sarah. Um, this

1338
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:11,920
is the resort municipality initiative

1339
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,839
amendment. Go ahead, please.

1340
00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:15,440
>> Yeah. So, I'm bringing forward this

1341
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,359
report. Um, as you all know, um, as a

1342
00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:21,040
little bit of an executive summary,

1343
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,559
we're bringing forward a change to the

1344
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:25,040
2025 through 2027 resort development

1345
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,119
strategy. uh we have a three-year

1346
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:31,040
strategy in place and in that time we

1347
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,160
had a uh a budget item there of for a

1348
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,760
flag replacement which was for $10,000.

1349
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,920
Um in further investigation uh in the

1350
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,359
background we found that the town

1351
00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:44,640
received funding uh a funding request.

1352
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,960
Oh, I'm sorry. Going back to the the

1353
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,200
actual flag replacement. So it includes

1354
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,760
this flag under further uh review. the

1355
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,160
flag cost got to be um exorbitant with

1356
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,640
that it wasn't our property and after

1357
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,200
further review the actual post to the

1358
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,839
flag was going to cost a lot more uh to

1359
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,599
repair it to make to stabilize a large

1360
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:06,000
flag. So this project hasn't really been

1361
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,160
able to go forward just given it is cost

1362
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,319
prohibitive. In the meantime, we did

1363
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:13,359
receive a funding request for $8,000 for

1364
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:15,839
fire and ice festival organization from

1365
00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:17,839
organizers to help offset the cost of an

1366
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:20,480
outdoor concert to Gyro Park to be held

1367
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,960
on the Friday evening of November 27th,

1368
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,000
28th, and 29th. The event organizing

1369
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,520
committee includes representatives from

1370
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,079
Spirit Ridge, Watermark Resort, Asoyas

1371
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:31,920
Art Council, the town of Aoyas, the

1372
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,920
Asoyus Museum, and the Asoyas Farmer

1373
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,319
Market, and Music in the Park. and the

1374
00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:38,160
Asus Arts Council will serve as the

1375
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,760
league organizer for the funding

1376
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,359
application.

1377
00:58:41,359 --> 00:58:43,359
So, we are just requesting we are able

1378
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:45,760
to move that $10,000 funding for the

1379
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,000
flag replacement to support this

1380
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,240
festival uh through our current

1381
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,960
development strategy and uh we have

1382
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,319
already checked in with the RMI

1383
00:58:54,319 --> 00:58:56,240
community and uh they have no problem

1384
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,559
with us changing changing gears on this

1385
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:00,559
one project.

1386
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,799
>> Thank you very much. Thank you for

1387
00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:06,079
looking into that. Um, anybody have any

1388
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:10,630
questions? Any concerns?

1389
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,640
» And it's been seconded by councelor

1390
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,760
Chong. All in favor?

1391
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,400
Thank you very much.

1392
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,640
Okay. Next is the uh Mrs. Coulson, the

1393
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,960
Asuous airport management agreement

1394
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:25,839
term.

1395
00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:27,920
>> Thank you, your worship. Uh this is this

1396
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,760
is the final step in establishing an

1397
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,200
agreement between the town and the

1398
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,760
Isoyas airport development society or

1399
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,280
ODS uh to manage airport operations. Uh

1400
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,079
council heard uh from the former CEO in

1401
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:42,720
October 2025 when council approved

1402
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,720
entering into a one-year agreement for

1403
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,799
the management of the airport with ODS.

1404
00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:49,599
U the execution of the uh agreement was

1405
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:52,319
postponed while ODS uh secured some

1406
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:54,160
documents that were required for the

1407
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,920
agreement. Um, so, uh, now that we're at

1408
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,000
the point a year later that we are

1409
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,000
wishing to execute the agreement, ODS is

1410
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,319
asking if they can have a 2-year rather

1411
01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:06,720
than a one-year term. This will help

1412
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,359
them establish the services uh, more

1413
01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:13,040
securely and uh, importantly, it g it

1414
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,960
places them well when they apply for a

1415
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,200
grant. They have a term long enough to

1416
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,640
be able to apply for the grant,

1417
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,640
hopefully get the grant, and complete

1418
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,200
the work that's grant funded. So, it is

1419
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,160
recommended that we approve um the

1420
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,040
two-year term for the agreement.

1421
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,240
>> Can I just ask a question? So, um it

1422
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,200
would be once we okay this or whatever

1423
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,319
we Okay, is this starting date is that

1424
01:00:38,319 --> 01:00:40,559
date and it goes for two week two years

1425
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:42,400
after that. Thank you. Just wanted to

1426
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,960
check. Go ahead.

1427
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,359
>> I'm just going to move option one.

1428
01:00:47,359 --> 01:00:51,280
>> Is there a seconder? Councelor King.

1429
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,480
Okay. Go ahead.

1430
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,079
>> Does it go back to 25 26 27 or we go 26

1431
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:58,000
27 28?

1432
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,680
>> Uh it would be two years from the time

1433
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,280
we signed the agreements.

1434
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,280
>> Okay. So like moving forward now two

1435
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,200
more. Yeah. Thank you.

1436
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,839
>> Okay. Is there any other concerns about

1437
01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:12,319
this? Um call question. All in favor?

1438
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:15,839
>> Thank you. That's carried.

1439
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:20,240
>> Um next water conservation plan update

1440
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,440
report.

1441
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,359
Um, Mrs. Coulson, thank you.

1442
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:25,760
>> Got my name on it. Um, but we're pleased

1443
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,520
to have our engineer, Steve Underwood

1444
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,559
from True Consulting with us today. And,

1445
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:33,119
um, Mr. Underwood is going to present

1446
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:35,599
council with a water conservation plan

1447
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:37,920
update.

1448
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:49,670
>> Thank you. Please go ahead, Steve.

1449
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,960
» Yeah. So, Um, last fall we prepared an

1450
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,680
update to the water conservation plan.

1451
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,680
Um, it's been in a draft form for too

1452
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,839
long and for so now we finally got it

1453
01:02:01,839 --> 01:02:04,880
here today to uh present to council

1454
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,920
hopefully um have it endorsed. Having an

1455
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,599
endor a council endorsed water

1456
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:11,839
conservation plan is usually a

1457
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:13,280
requirement of grant funding

1458
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,799
applications. Um new requirements are

1459
01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:19,200
also that these uh conservation plans

1460
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,160
contain actual targets like values that

1461
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,480
are measurable and that there's a method

1462
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,520
in which we um propose to report our

1463
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,680
compliance with them and or you know

1464
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,200
achieving our targets. So this new plan

1465
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,880
um while your last plan did have a

1466
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,319
target, we didn't really check in on it

1467
01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:42,000
um very regularly or at all. Um and and

1468
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,359
so this plan actually gives you targets

1469
01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:48,000
for the next for every 5 years for for

1470
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,240
moving forward for the next foreseeable

1471
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,040
future.

1472
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,880
The other big thing that this plan's

1473
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,920
going to do for you is inform the sizing

1474
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,319
of your water treatment plant project.

1475
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:02,799
Uh right now your water treatment plant

1476
01:03:02,799 --> 01:03:07,280
is proposed to be a $51 million water

1477
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:08,720
treatment plant. That's without the

1478
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,520
intake. $65 million a width in intake,

1479
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,680
but the actual plant facility itself is

1480
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,599
51 million and its capacity is 24.7

1481
01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:20,000
megaliters per day.

1482
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,160
What we're proposing in this water

1483
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,599
conservation plan is that we reduce that

1484
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:29,440
number from 24 to 17 through

1485
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,200
conservation.

1486
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,480
And really the uh 54 or 51 million

1487
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,720
scales with with that. So that's like a

1488
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,920
28% reduction in what in the size of the

1489
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,440
plant and it corresponds generally not

1490
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,319
exactly but to a 28% reduction in the

1491
01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:50,079
cost of the plant. Um and really when we

1492
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:51,920
look at this this is MDD so that's

1493
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,319
maximum day demand. That is the plant

1494
01:03:54,319 --> 01:03:56,160
has to be sized to be able to meet our

1495
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,520
maximum day demand every um day in the

1496
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,079
summer. Um, our current demand this year

1497
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:09,599
has peaked out at 14 MLDD. So, we're currently well under that number,

1498
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:11,839
but we're under some pretty serious

1499
01:04:11,839 --> 01:04:13,359
restrictions. Since our new restrictions

1500
01:04:13,359 --> 01:04:14,960
came in, we've actually dropped it down

1501
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:21,119
to 12 or 11 since August 1st. So, we're well under the numbers already

1502
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:22,799
with the measures that we put in place

1503
01:04:22,799 --> 01:04:25,680
that we're proposing.

1504
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,359
But we're also proposing that as

1505
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:29,440
population grows that we continue to

1506
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,829
reduce our per capita demand.

1507
01:04:33,839 --> 01:04:38,799
Right now um our 5year trailing average

1508
01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:42,559
day demand so add is 1,044

1509
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:46,640
liters per capita per day. Um we we've

1510
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,000
chosen that as a metric for our targets

1511
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,200
mainly because most other jurisdictions

1512
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,280
report that as well. like we can go into

1513
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,760
everyone else's annual water reports and

1514
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,200
find out what their um annual average um

1515
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,400
daily demand is per capita. Um there's

1516
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,720
Canadian averages published, there's BC

1517
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,799
averages, there's lower mainland like

1518
01:05:08,799 --> 01:05:11,680
the Canadian average is 320 liters per

1519
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:16,559
capita per day add. We're at,044.

1520
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:18,799
But our MDD is what's really important

1521
01:05:18,799 --> 01:05:21,680
to us. Um for the last 20 years it's

1522
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,440
almost exactly at 2.4 44 multiplier for

1523
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,760
our ADD to MDD

1524
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,839
and it's been it's been that way every

1525
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:32,480
year. So we by targeting a reduction in

1526
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,559
ADD will see a a corresponding reduction

1527
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:39,280
in MDD and and MDD is actually what

1528
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,400
drives um the sizing of our plant. So

1529
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,000
managing MDD is most important to us but

1530
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,319
all the targets I tell you in here are

1531
01:05:48,319 --> 01:05:51,599
actually add targets. Moving forward, we

1532
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:53,359
could come up with some goals to try and

1533
01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:56,400
reduce that multiplier of 2.44. Um, but

1534
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,920
that that would achieve the same thing

1535
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,839
as trying to make our treatment plant

1536
01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:01,599
smaller.

1537
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:03,760
Another note is that, you know, this

1538
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,640
plan targets, you know, water treatment

1539
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,400
plant size in the 17 range and our wells

1540
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,319
can provide 17.2. So, our it's kind of

1541
01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:15,920
within the range of our current ability

1542
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:20,630
to supply water as well.

1543
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,520
Within the water conservation plan, um

1544
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,799
there's kind of like three different

1545
01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:28,960
options that were analyzed for what we

1546
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,240
think growth could be and and what our

1547
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,400
um demand reduction could be. This graph

1548
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,359
is is of the recommended option, which

1549
01:06:37,359 --> 01:06:39,119
is to assume that growth is going to be

1550
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:40,799
what the average growth has been in the

1551
01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:42,559
Okonogan for the last 20 years, which is

1552
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:44,400
1.3%.

1553
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:45,920
Um there's lots of other studies that

1554
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,680
have been done that use higher growth

1555
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,119
factors, but what we're trying to say is

1556
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:51,119
here's a realistic one. Like let's plan

1557
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:54,799
on a on actual numbers, not these two

1558
01:06:54,799 --> 01:06:59,119
and three and 4% growth because they compound annually. And so it's a

1559
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:00,799
1.3%

1560
01:07:00,799 --> 01:07:05,920
growth um coupled with a 1.7%

1561
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,119
annual reduction in ADD. So what we're

1562
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:12,240
saying is every year people need to save

1563
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,520
1.7% of their water uh from the last

1564
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,599
year and our demand will slowly drop

1565
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:22,799
kind of as this graph shows. Uh that's I

1566
01:07:22,799 --> 01:07:24,319
guess the laser pointer there's a middle

1567
01:07:24,319 --> 01:07:25,760
line there where you see an immediate

1568
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,720
drop of like 20% and then it goes flat.

1569
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,160
That's actually more likely what's going

1570
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,359
to happen as we start reading our

1571
01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:32,480
meters. We're probably going to actually

1572
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,480
see a significant drop. will go below

1573
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,359
our current goals and we can report that we're below our goals and then we

1574
01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:41,920
don't have to pull any other levers on

1575
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,520
conservation

1576
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,039
immediately. We just have to keep our

1577
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:47,119
eyes on our goals and know that you know

1578
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:50,160
we're well as we reapproach our uh

1579
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,839
future goals that we might have to pull

1580
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:59,910
other levers to to achieve them.

1581
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:03,839
This graph shows it on the MDD um chart.

1582
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:05,119
I'm going to flip to it because I'm

1583
01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:06,400
having troubles reading those numbers.

1584
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,400
But uh you can see that uh our current

1585
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,280
MDD has has fluctuated you know previous

1586
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,119
to 2026

1587
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:19,359
somewhere between the high 14s and you

1588
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:22,719
know 17 or 18. Um and that's our

1589
01:08:22,719 --> 01:08:24,719
historic MDD.

1590
01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:28,159
it has trended down u even as we've

1591
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:30,400
grown our the trend line has been

1592
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,159
slightly down so things have been

1593
01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:34,880
working uh we have been doing public

1594
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,719
education we have metered our major

1595
01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:38,560
users we have done a lot of things over

1596
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,239
the years um moving forward we're going

1597
01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:45,520
to see a a larger reduction with our new

1598
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,120
metering and and we now have really

1599
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,000
clear data on what's happening with our

1600
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,839
water we we know, frankly, who's using

1601
01:08:55,839 --> 01:08:57,600
water every day of the week because we

1602
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,679
can we can record that if we want and we

1603
01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:01,920
know who's complying with our irrigation

1604
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,319
restrictions and how many people aren't.

1605
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:08,799
Um we know um generally where all the

1606
01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:12,640
water is going. um except

1607
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,319
when we look at you know how much we're

1608
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:17,120
reading and how much um how much we're

1609
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,400
pumping there is maybe between two and

1610
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,560
three megaliters a day that we haven't

1611
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,319
accounted for yet in our metering

1612
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:26,880
program. So that is something that it's

1613
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,480
another lever we can pull. we can try

1614
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:31,679
and look for it and and see what we can

1615
01:09:31,679 --> 01:09:34,319
do to to explain that water, whether

1616
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:36,080
it's leakage or whether it's being used

1617
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:40,000
on unmetered services that may be town

1618
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,640
um properties that we hadn't uh or parks

1619
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,000
that we haven't metered yet. Um and so

1620
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,080
that is something that we can look at.

1621
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:54,400
But as we as we achieve these goals, the demand we're projecting the demand

1622
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,199
to actually drop over the next 20 years

1623
01:09:57,199 --> 01:09:59,199
down into the 14 range and it may even

1624
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,280
be lower, like we may even get down to

1625
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,600
12. Um and and then there'll be a limit

1626
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,480
where we our residents can't necessarily

1627
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:11,679
conserve more. Um there there won't be

1628
01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:14,239
as it won't be as easy to dial back the

1629
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:16,560
lawn irrigation or change out fixtures

1630
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,960
or whatever. and and then the demand

1631
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,880
will start to increase as population

1632
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,360
goes up because these graphs show us

1633
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,840
going down till we hit that target which

1634
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,600
is in the water conservation plan of six

1635
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,360
an add of 600 L per capita per day and

1636
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,760
then once we get there we don't show any

1637
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,480
additional uh conservation past that so

1638
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:40,000
it does creep up and so by 2080

1639
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,800
the year 2080 if we use the you know the

1640
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,480
1.3% growth model we hit a treatment

1641
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:49,600
plant design of 17.4

1642
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,239
um which is many years out like planning

1643
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:55,520
for a size of that is very reasonable

1644
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,800
and there will be growth obviously to

1645
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,000
trigger that 1.3% growth there'll be

1646
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,159
dcc's and stuff collected in that time

1647
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:05,679
that will pay for these plant

1648
01:11:05,679 --> 01:11:08,400
expansions. So what we're proposing here

1649
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,360
is if we can adopt these targets that we

1650
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,120
can plan this plant for 50 years knowing

1651
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,400
that uh we only have to um build it to a

1652
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,229
17 capacity.

1653
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:24,960
If the growth was 2%

1654
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,840
um you can see that it does go up to

1655
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,080
that 24 number which is the green line

1656
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:34,880
on this chart by uh by the year 2080. Um

1657
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,480
the original idea behind the 2.4 or 24

1658
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:40,960
megal liters a day plant sizing was no

1659
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,679
conservation. So like the the reason

1660
01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:45,679
that number was chosen was assuming that

1661
01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:47,360
we weren't capable of conserving

1662
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,159
anymore. But what we're now saying is we

1663
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:52,080
have to conserve. We have to drive this

1664
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,159
down to try and reduce the cost of this

1665
01:11:54,159 --> 01:12:00,390
flat to make things affordable.

1666
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,199
So, our recommendations um out of this

1667
01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:07,635
report um is that council endorse the

1668
01:12:07,635 --> 01:12:09,280
[snorts] report and its recommendation

1669
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:13,440
to target um demand reduction in five

1670
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:16,719
year the five-year targets down to 600 L

1671
01:12:16,719 --> 01:12:19,440
per capita ADD.

1672
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:23,040
Um we also recommend that you maintain

1673
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:24,880
your current

1674
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,960
um metered rate structure. If you have a

1675
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,040
metered rate structure, we want to

1676
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,280
recommend that you um you know

1677
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,360
transition your users to it and start

1678
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,760
charging volutrically based on

1679
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,560
consumption per your current uh rate

1680
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,159
structure.

1681
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:43,760
Um we have noticed lots of major water

1682
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,800
users and it sounds like um staff have

1683
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,280
already been investigating them. We can

1684
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,120
like I said we can read the data. We've

1685
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:52,960
been True has been reading your meter

1686
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,199
data daily. We've been tracking it daily

1687
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:58,480
by address to get an idea of of you know

1688
01:12:58,480 --> 01:12:59,920
where and how our water is using and

1689
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:03,360
there is some major users out in normal

1690
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,400
neighborhoods. Um and so public work

1691
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,800
should visit them. Uh some of them are

1692
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,400
consuming 30 cubic meters a night. Like

1693
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,600
that's 30,000 liters in in one day. Um

1694
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,040
so we do need to figure out where that

1695
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,120
water is going. Could be the meters

1696
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,320
installed wrong. Like it doesn't mean

1697
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,480
they're actually doing it. uh we need to

1698
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:24,560
understand some of these anomalies and

1699
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,239
um and get to the bottom of them because

1700
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:31,280
um basically your top 100 users are

1701
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,360
using 25% of your water according to the

1702
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,600
data and so we need to get on those

1703
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,159
um

1704
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:42,400
as we move forward. I don't think we'll

1705
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,560
have to do much more than at the

1706
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,800
beginning than just start billing by

1707
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,520
metered rates. But there the re the

1708
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,239
report does recommend other levers you

1709
01:13:52,239 --> 01:13:54,480
can pull by like giving rebates for

1710
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:57,280
irrigation controllers um you know

1711
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,239
different targeted rebate programs. We

1712
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:01,840
wouldn't propose to put anything in next

1713
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,679
year's budget or likely the year after's

1714
01:14:03,679 --> 01:14:05,440
budget for any programs like that. That

1715
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:07,360
would be something that that staff could

1716
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,760
bring forward at a future date if we're

1717
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,440
trying to get to a goal and we just

1718
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,040
haven't been able to get there that we

1719
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,000
look at we analyze our data where our

1720
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,080
water is going and then try and choose

1721
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,480
programs that might uh be able to reduce

1722
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:22,880
those numbers down. But the most

1723
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,440
important recommendation here is that we

1724
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:28,239
report our progress annually. We're

1725
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:30,960
proposing to add a section to the at

1726
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,080
least the water annual water report that

1727
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,719
just is conservation where we revisit

1728
01:14:36,719 --> 01:14:39,600
these targets. We check that we're um

1729
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,000
working towards them because if we're

1730
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,960
not our plant will not if and we build a

1731
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,679
plant down to 17 uh our plant won't be

1732
01:14:47,679 --> 01:14:48,880
large enough to meet our growth

1733
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,199
projections. So we will either have to

1734
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:54,400
start um budgeting for a plant expansion

1735
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,920
or start reducing our demand. Um, so

1736
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,000
constantly looking back at these targets

1737
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,880
and where our progress is to them is the

1738
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,800
best thing that we can do and take them

1739
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,480
seriously. Once we've built a plant

1740
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,920
that's that this size, we will have to

1741
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,990
make sure we achieve this.

1742
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,320
» That concludes my report.

1743
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,040
>> Thank you, Steve. Um that was that was

1744
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:20,719
quite interesting to read the whole

1745
01:15:20,719 --> 01:15:23,280
report and see where we can what we have

1746
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,440
done and what we can do and we don't

1747
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:27,679
know what we can do until we have the

1748
01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:29,760
information and that's why water

1749
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,600
metering is so important because we do

1750
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,800
get that a lot more information now did

1751
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,280
that did they go through the same

1752
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,080
concerns when this was done in Oliver

1753
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,080
when they did it a while back where same

1754
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,960
size community sort mostly although we

1755
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,480
get a lot more visitors I think than

1756
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:47,440
they do that.

1757
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:52,480
>> Yeah. So Oliver saw a 40% reduction in

1758
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:55,040
water demand almost immediately with the

1759
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,679
installation of meters. Oliver at the

1760
01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:00,640
same time had um their two largest wells

1761
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,159
become contaminated with uranium. and

1762
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:06,880
Oliver was able to simply turn them off

1763
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,520
and was able to supply water to their

1764
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,560
customers for many years with their two

1765
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,960
largest sources offline because of their

1766
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,800
metering that came in in '07.

1767
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:17,199
>> Wow.

1768
01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:18,880
>> And they've kept it down. They've done a

1769
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,280
good job. They have had to add one new

1770
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,199
source since then to replace one of the

1771
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:25,520
two that have come down, but they are in

1772
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,960
a a really good supply situation. The

1773
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,440
other thing Oliver was able to do was

1774
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:35,360
defer a sewage treatment plant upgrade

1775
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,719
by 40 years with this. Again, the same

1776
01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:41,360
reduction in water demand created a

1777
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,159
corresponding reduction in sewer demand

1778
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:48,560
and and made their current plant size

1779
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,360
reach, you know, 40 years beyond where

1780
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,719
it thought we thought it was going to be

1781
01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:55,120
able to go.

1782
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,239
That's good to hear because um when when

1783
01:16:58,239 --> 01:17:01,120
we always hear bad news and what's going

1784
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,280
wrong, it's nice to know that we there

1785
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,159
are things we can do to um to make this

1786
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:08,480
work well. Good. Thank you, Councelor

1787
01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:08,960
King.

1788
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,800
>> Yeah. Thank you, Madam. I have two or

1789
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,560
three questions. One would be I think

1790
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,480
you should report every 6 months instead

1791
01:17:14,480 --> 01:17:16,880
of a year because I think a year would

1792
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,760
be past what we might need to know. And

1793
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,520
I just want a clarity. You said maybe a

1794
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,280
100 people consume 25% of the water. Who

1795
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:26,719
goes out and talks to them? I just

1796
01:17:26,719 --> 01:17:31,510
wanted clarity on that.

1797
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,520
» Mark, do you have the answer to who's

1798
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:34,000
going?

1799
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,760
>> Yeah, we we've had people from our

1800
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,840
waterworks division go out as they have

1801
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,000
time. Uh starting with the top users

1802
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,840
that we can't explain where the water is

1803
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,120
going. They're they're just working

1804
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,800
through them kind of one address at a

1805
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,679
time. But also if they choose not to cut

1806
01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:50,480
back, they just will pay a lot more.

1807
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:53,280
>> That will be the end result. Yes. But in

1808
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,600
the interim, they're ruling out, as Mr.

1809
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,760
Underwood said, the possibility of a

1810
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,760
malfunction in the meter. And if they

1811
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,760
talk to them and say, "Yes, we are using

1812
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,159
30,000 LERs a night." Then we know

1813
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:05,600
there's no malfunction. It's their

1814
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:06,880
choice.

1815
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,880
>> I guess one last question. Can you

1816
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,280
explain to me the difference between a a

1817
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,000
portable water treatment plant and a

1818
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,760
portable W water filter system?

1819
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,920
>> I would say there's probably no

1820
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,520
difference. Like it I think that's just

1821
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,320
a terminology question, but a port a

1822
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,960
portable water treatment plant would

1823
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,480
just be something that's likely been

1824
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:30,400
containerized that we you could pick up

1825
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,199
and move. Um they're common in the

1826
01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:35,440
mining camps up in the north. You would

1827
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:37,280
kind of order one from somewhere. The

1828
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,679
size of them aren't usually at the scale

1829
01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:42,159
that we're talking here. We're not like

1830
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:44,719
uh when we talk 17 megaliters a day or

1831
01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:46,320
25 megaliters a day, you don't usually

1832
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:52,870
see a portable one that's that size,

1833
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,239
» councelor Chong.

1834
01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:56,400
>> Thank you. [clears throat]

1835
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:57,920
Not going to try to hog the mic here,

1836
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:02,000
but um with the per capita calculation

1837
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,040
is the the population that's used for

1838
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,480
the denominator is that the 55 56

1839
01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:11,920
population that's reported by census.

1840
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,280
>> Yeah. Um so it's it's plus the rural

1841
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,239
area. So it's it's so it's more like a

1842
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:21,920
6,000 and something denominator. And I

1843
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,560
acknowledge it's not necessarily fair uh

1844
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,320
because of the tourist influx here. And

1845
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,239
so I I think we always have to keep that

1846
01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:31,120
in mind that when I say your neighboring

1847
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,199
community has a per capita demand of

1848
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:35,920
500, which some of your neighbors do,

1849
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:42,159
and you're at a thousand, um you're also talking about the water

1850
01:19:42,159 --> 01:19:44,560
consumption that comes from um your

1851
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,880
tourist population. So your residents

1852
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,280
are being punished by saying you know

1853
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,679
their demand is it the tourist demand is

1854
01:19:51,679 --> 01:19:54,560
on to your 6,000 residents.

1855
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,840
Then to get higher resolution data

1856
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,360
there's we can differentiate the meter

1857
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:06,159
data based on the size of the meter. So

1858
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:08,400
most residences are I forgot the the

1859
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,800
width but we can just parse data from

1860
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,239
them and but also see what stratas or

1861
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:16,880
hotels and motel are also using right

1862
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,960
>> yeah so one way easy way to sort our

1863
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,840
data is by meter size so we can sort it

1864
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:26,159
by 3/4 in andor 5/8 meters and see what

1865
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:28,400
that generally represents our residents

1866
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,080
so we can see what they're using and we

1867
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,040
can totalize that easily and yes each

1868
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,679
address so strata uh you know has a

1869
01:20:35,679 --> 01:20:37,360
number of units associated with it. So

1870
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,679
we do know which ones are stratas and

1871
01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:41,040
how much the individual stratas are

1872
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,719
using kind of per unit but we don't know

1873
01:20:42,719 --> 01:20:44,320
how much has been used in the individual

1874
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:45,840
units because we just measure the strata

1875
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,120
at the property line. So, since we've

1876
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,986
been collecting data, excuse

1877
01:20:50,986 --> 01:20:52,719
[clears throat] me, since the uh the

1878
01:20:52,719 --> 01:20:55,040
water meters are installed, is there a

1879
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,679
better way to kind of calculate what our

1880
01:20:57,679 --> 01:21:00,400
per capita usage is based on the meter

1881
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,440
size, which mostly

1882
01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:05,840
pertains to residential and there's some

1883
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,120
commercial in there as well, right?

1884
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,280
>> Yeah. So, and it comes down to the

1885
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,480
target like the target is just an add um

1886
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:17,360
that is a simple calculation. Um but

1887
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,719
yes, we could do high resolution

1888
01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:22,880
um data crunching for you to say what

1889
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,360
our residents are actually using, but

1890
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,040
the people we're benchmarking ourselves

1891
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,040
against like the city of Pentictton

1892
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,040
aren't doing that, right? So their

1893
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,760
number I think last year was 585 liters

1894
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,440
per capita per day um that they have a

1895
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:41,120
similar tourist influx. Maybe not as but

1896
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,480
we'd have to like see what the

1897
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:44,560
comparison is but they've have managed

1898
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,120
to get their number significantly lower

1899
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,480
than you've managed to get your number

1900
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:50,960
and and and the reason we've chosen that

1901
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,960
add is is more just that benchmarking

1902
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,440
between uh us and and like the Canadian

1903
01:21:55,440 --> 01:22:01,189
average which is 320.

1904
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:04,159
» Um thank you water counselors. Any

1905
01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:07,120
concerns questions from you guys? Okay.

1906
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:11,679
I've just wondered. Um, so what we're um

1907
01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:14,080
what the recommended motion is that we

1908
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,880
adopt the 2025 water conservation plan

1909
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,880
update um and direct staff to begin

1910
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,800
researching the implementation of the

1911
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:27,280
strategies incorporating the future capital and operational work

1912
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,840
plans for the town of Isuyas. Is there

1913
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,520
somebody

1914
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,400
>> Thank you. seconded. It's been moved and

1915
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:35,920
seconded.

1916
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,440
Absolutely. Go ahead.

1917
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:39,120
>> Thank you. [clears throat] Is there an

1918
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,159
opportunity to do to obviously want to

1919
01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:45,120
start with education? Um is there a

1920
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,000
possibility to do a quarterly like

1921
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,719
billing mock cycle if we were to use our

1922
01:22:50,719 --> 01:22:56,480
current fee structure just to show the average household like this is what

1923
01:22:56,480 --> 01:22:58,719
it would cost

1924
01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:00,480
according to and this is how much you

1925
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:02,080
you've used. Just so that it gives them

1926
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:07,990
some context.

1927
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,480
Yes, we we trying to figure out how to

1928
01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:12,400
word this properly. Um, so we do have

1929
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:13,840
the water consumption and of course you

1930
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,600
saw that we have implemented the portal

1931
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,840
which allows uh our 360 portal allows

1932
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,679
people and residents to sign up see

1933
01:23:19,679 --> 01:23:21,280
their cons their consumption in real

1934
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,239
time. Um we any type of questions we do

1935
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:26,560
get we have um put out kind of

1936
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,600
communication through our um e-news and

1937
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,320
website of what the rates currently are

1938
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,520
today uh based on if it were metered and

1939
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,360
given them kind of like a calculation

1940
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:42,880
matrix like take your base plus your per cap you know your per per cubic

1941
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,040
meter per the price and that's what your

1942
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,159
bill would be. Um we have not been in a

1943
01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:49,840
position to do mock billing although

1944
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,120
that had been discussed just given um we

1945
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,360
are still haven't completed the whole

1946
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,920
phase of installation of of meters. We

1947
01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,199
still have a few out there and we're

1948
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:00,320
still working and troubleshooting

1949
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,800
through a couple other issues with the

1950
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:07,840
meters but um um yeah over overall we we

1951
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,679
can highlight it I guess more on a

1952
01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:11,920
website more of a general this is a

1953
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,000
formula to calculate it if that kind of

1954
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,199
answers your question.

1955
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:19,760
So, um I think one of the things on our

1956
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,440
website when you go on right away is the

1957
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:23,360
water advisory and there's quite a lot

1958
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,880
of of information on it um right right

1959
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,600
away that you can get. I think maybe we

1960
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,639
need to do something similar to put on

1961
01:24:32,639 --> 01:24:36,000
the website uh about water conservation.

1962
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,719
And I know it it I mean this is a big

1963
01:24:38,719 --> 01:24:41,679
report that we've got, but if we could

1964
01:24:41,679 --> 01:24:44,639
have something that would give a a two

1965
01:24:44,639 --> 01:24:48,159
or three pager on on what we're talking

1966
01:24:48,159 --> 01:24:50,320
about here, it's a lot to absorb. I

1967
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:51,760
think that would be helpful and it's

1968
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,560
something we could direct people who are

1969
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,000
concerned to go and and read.

1970
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:58,719
>> Yes. Go ahead.

1971
01:24:58,719 --> 01:25:00,159
>> Yes. And I think it would be important

1972
01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:02,400
to try to encourage more people to sign

1973
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,679
up to my 360. I've been going on regular

1974
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:07,520
and looking at it and it's quite

1975
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,520
interesting. It's really simple to use.

1976
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,040
You only really got to push a couple

1977
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,440
buttons after you've logged on. So, you

1978
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:16,000
can see your own consumption and I think

1979
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,600
a lot of people be happy and maybe

1980
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,760
there'll be a few people unhappy but it

1981
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,320
is quite accurate on reading your own

1982
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,880
meter. It's kind of exciting to do that.

1983
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,840
>> We have launched um when we launched the

1984
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:29,360
program, we did put out a various

1985
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,040
different e-newses and on our Facebook

1986
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:32,880
and on the website here's instructions

1987
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,280
on how to do it. We we help people here

1988
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:36,639
in the office. If they come to the front

1989
01:25:36,639 --> 01:25:39,360
desk, we'll help sign them up for it. Um

1990
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,159
and then on this latest quarterly

1991
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:44,159
billing, we did put a section right on

1992
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:46,000
the bottom that we do encourage you to

1993
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,920
see your, you know, to sign up so you

1994
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,679
can see your daily consumption.

1995
01:25:51,679 --> 01:25:52,800
>> Question.

1996
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,800
>> Thank you to you and through you

1997
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,560
director Keith. Do we know roughly how

1998
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,360
many we've had um register or subscribe

1999
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:00,880
to that data?

2000
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,040
>> I think we're up to over 200 now.

2001
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,440
>> Thank you. Yeah.

2002
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:08,400
>> Okay. So, we have had a mover and a

2003
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:14,719
seconder on the recommended motion. Um I will call for the question. All in

2004
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:16,639
favor?

2005
01:26:16,639 --> 01:26:18,800
Thank you. And that was unanimous. All

2006
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:30,229
seven. Thank you very much.

2007
01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:32,560
Steve, for um

2008
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,199
providing that for us. Next, we're going

2009
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:38,800
on to bylaws. Uh zoning amendment um

2010
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,159
bylaw. Um yeah, zoning bylaw amendment

2011
01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:45,360
for 28 Empire Street. Is that Miss Dwong

2012
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,520
again? Good. Thank you, Miss Dwong. Go

2013
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,679
ahead, please.

2014
01:26:49,679 --> 01:26:51,360
>> We'll do. And I do have a quick

2015
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,880
presentation for this one.

2016
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,239
Mhm. [clears throat]

2017
01:26:56,239 --> 01:26:57,760
>> And

2018
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,840
see,

2019
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,960
and is the slide coming up on your side?

2020
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,040
>> Yes, we can see it. Thank you.

2021
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:06,719
>> All right, perfect. So, uh just a quick

2022
01:27:06,719 --> 01:27:09,600
heads up on this one. I am presenting uh

2023
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,360
the overview of this application,

2024
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,920
although um I do have Colin Martin also

2025
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,000
with me in the room, um who is the file

2026
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,679
manager for this application, just in

2027
01:27:17,679 --> 01:27:19,440
case any questions come up at the end.

2028
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:21,199
Um but with that, I'll just go ahead and

2029
01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:22,960
get started.

2030
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,760
So, this is a zoning uh bylaw amendment

2031
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,840
application for the property at 28

2032
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,639
Empire Street. The OCP designation that

2033
01:27:30,639 --> 01:27:32,239
applies to this property is industrial

2034
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:34,080
and it has a corresponding zoning of

2035
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,120
general industrial. The parcel is just

2036
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,760
over 4,000 square meters in size and is

2037
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,239
currently understood to contain an auto

2038
01:27:42,239 --> 01:27:44,320
body shop as well as an automotive

2039
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,880
museum.

2040
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,800
So the automotive museum is actually the

2041
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,639
subject of this resoning application as

2042
01:27:50,639 --> 01:27:52,400
the applicant is proposing to operate an

2043
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,280
indoor automotive tourist uh attraction

2044
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,360
uh being the desert speed heritage

2045
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,920
museum at the subject property. It is

2046
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:01,520
understood that the museum is currently

2047
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,760
operating.

2048
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,840
the general industrial or I1 zone and

2049
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,120
that applies to this property is

2050
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,400
intended to support a variety of

2051
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,120
industrial uses and that includes um

2052
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,520
various uses um including but not

2053
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,679
limited to construction supply center

2054
01:28:15,679 --> 01:28:18,560
manufacturing salvage operation service

2055
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,080
industry establishment and vehicle sales

2056
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,239
and rental. Now um museums um are

2057
01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:25,840
actually not permitted within the zone.

2058
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,320
So despite being um currently in

2059
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:29,679
operation, this is not an outright

2060
01:28:29,679 --> 01:28:31,840
permitted use within the I1 zone and

2061
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,199
they're actually only permitted within

2062
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:35,440
the administrative and institutional and

2063
01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:39,199
town center zones throughout the town.

2064
01:28:39,199 --> 01:28:40,880
As such, the applicant is requesting to

2065
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,560
amend the zoning of the applica of the

2066
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,400
property under the town's uh zoning

2067
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,040
bylaw uh from general industrial to

2068
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,800
general industrial site specific in

2069
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,040
order to allow cultural facility as a

2070
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,360
permitted principal use and specifically

2071
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:57,280
that that be in the form of a museum.

2072
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,040
Now, in considering this proposal, staff

2073
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:00,960
do note that industrial lands within the

2074
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,040
town are limited to those lands in the

2075
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,199
uh Buenov Vista Industrial Park, which

2076
01:29:05,199 --> 01:29:07,040
is located at the northwest corner of

2077
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,360
the town. expansion of these lands is

2078
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,480
greatly limited by uh just its location

2079
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:14,400
uh specifically jurisdictional

2080
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,159
boundaries as it's located right at the

2081
01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:18,159
border of the town and electoral area A

2082
01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:21,280
of the RDOS. It's also bounded by

2083
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:22,960
existing industrial and non-industrial

2084
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,480
development as well as competing land

2085
01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:25,920
uses such as those lands that are

2086
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,000
located to the south uh which are

2087
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,679
designated under the OCP for

2088
01:29:29,679 --> 01:29:33,681
environmental conservation purposes.

2089
01:29:33,681 --> 01:29:33,920
>> [snorts]

2090
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,400
>> Now, the OCP sets out intended use uh

2091
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,239
the intended use of industrial lands as

2092
01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:40,080
being to support light and heavy

2093
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,480
industrial uses and this is reflected in

2094
01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:44,239
the town's zoning bylaw by way of

2095
01:29:44,239 --> 01:29:45,840
permitted uses within the general

2096
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,480
industrial zone. Now, general industrial

2097
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:51,120
uses uh or non-industrial uses are those

2098
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:52,800
which are typically not seen to be

2099
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,800
compatible with industrial uses are not

2100
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,639
permitted within this zone and would

2101
01:29:56,639 --> 01:29:58,000
otherwise require the discretionary

2102
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,080
approval on a case-byase basis through a

2103
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,159
reszoning process just like this one.

2104
01:30:02,159 --> 01:30:03,920
Now, in these instances, council can

2105
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:05,440
assess whether a proposed use is

2106
01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:06,880
appropriate within the context of the

2107
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,120
industrial designation and whether it's

2108
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,360
an effective use of land uh in the

2109
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,560
industrial area.

2110
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,400
So, in this particular case, the request

2111
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,080
is understood to allow an automotive

2112
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,239
museum in addition to all other uses

2113
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:21,760
which would normally be permitted within

2114
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,920
the I1 zone. So in this regard, the

2115
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:25,120
property owner would be maintaining

2116
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:26,719
their ability to undertake all other

2117
01:30:26,719 --> 01:30:28,400
forms of industrial uses which are

2118
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,480
currently permitted in the I1 zone even

2119
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:33,040
if the reszoning is approved.

2120
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,639
Additionally, the museum is focused on

2121
01:30:34,639 --> 01:30:36,639
automobiles and relates to an existing

2122
01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:38,880
principal auto body shop at the property

2123
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,239
which would reduce the overall

2124
01:30:40,239 --> 01:30:41,760
likelihood that users would be affected

2125
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,760
by any typical negative impacts of being

2126
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,679
near industrial sites uh such as

2127
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:48,960
nuisances like noise and air quality. As

2128
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,560
such, we do see that the proposal is

2129
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,239
generally seen to be compatible with the

2130
01:30:52,239 --> 01:30:54,159
existing industrial use of the property

2131
01:30:54,159 --> 01:30:56,080
and wouldn't be hindering its use for

2132
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,920
industrial purposes into the future.

2133
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:02,320
We do also recognize that as a resort

2134
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,639
municipality, the town does face unique

2135
01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:07,120
challenges um with respect to how it can

2136
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:08,639
balance year-round businesses with

2137
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:11,360
tourism priorities. The OCP does contain

2138
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,120
supportive policy which encourages the

2139
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,120
expansion of the attractiveness of the

2140
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,199
town year round and prioritizes

2141
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:19,199
attracting new businesses. But it is

2142
01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:21,199
also recognized that of course uh there

2143
01:31:21,199 --> 01:31:24,320
is limited industrial land and the OCP

2144
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,320
then supports um the infill and

2145
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,159
redevelopment of underutilized

2146
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:31,280
industrial uh properties. In response to

2147
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,000
this, as the proposal is seen to provide

2148
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,480
for an indoor year-round attraction, u

2149
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:38,400
it does appear to be consistent with the

2150
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,159
town's priority to support year-round

2151
01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:43,840
tourism and a year-round economy.

2152
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,360
On the other hand, and as mentioned,

2153
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:46,880
industrial lands within the town are

2154
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,400
very limited, and there may be more

2155
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,080
appropriate locations to site and

2156
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,560
operate a museum. As mentioned, cultural

2157
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,000
facilities are typically found within

2158
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,440
the administrative and institutional

2159
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:57,040
zone where they're permitted outright.

2160
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:58,800
But these lands are also very limited

2161
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,960
and are generally already occupied by

2162
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:02,880
existing uses, which makes it quite

2163
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,639
challenging to identify other suitable

2164
01:32:04,639 --> 01:32:06,320
administrative and institutional lands

2165
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,880
for the proposed use. Uh that being said

2166
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:10,159
though, the applicant may have

2167
01:32:10,159 --> 01:32:12,080
opportunities to identify town center

2168
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:13,840
zone lands within the downtown core,

2169
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,080
which could also permit uh cultural

2170
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,480
facilities as well.

2171
01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:20,880
So, at this time, we are uh requesting

2172
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,320
council's direction with respect to the

2173
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,000
proposed bylaw amendment and further

2174
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,639
reasons uh provided. We are um

2175
01:32:26,639 --> 01:32:28,960
recommending that the amendment bylaw be

2176
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,560
read a first and second time and proceed

2177
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,480
to public hearing on September 8th uh

2178
01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:35,120
2026. Um should the reasonzoning be

2179
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:36,719
successful if council supportive of it,

2180
01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:38,719
a change of use permit may be required.

2181
01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:40,639
Um and improvements may also be required

2182
01:32:40,639 --> 01:32:42,239
to satisfy BC building code

2183
01:32:42,239 --> 01:32:45,679
requirements. Thank you.

2184
01:32:45,679 --> 01:32:47,520
>> Thank you very much, Miss Dwang. I

2185
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,760
appreciate that. Go ahead, Council.

2186
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:51,520
>> Great presentation. Thank you very much.

2187
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,639
I'll move option one

2188
01:32:54,639 --> 01:32:57,600
>> and it's been seconded

2189
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,880
and yes, go ahead for a question. Yeah,

2190
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:04,480
>> thank you. You too, Mr. Um, does the um

2191
01:33:04,480 --> 01:33:06,960
zoning by amendment does that uh change

2192
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:07,920
the parking requirements for the

2193
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:12,950
property? Would those stay the same?

2194
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,320
Um it would the use itself is what

2195
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:17,920
triggers the parking requirements. So

2196
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:19,360
that's not altering parking requirements

2197
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:21,600
at the site. Um cultural facilities have

2198
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,040
their own parking requirements under the

2199
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:24,400
zoning bylaw and those would need to be

2200
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,320
met um in order for the use to take

2201
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:27,440
place.

2202
01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:29,760
>> Thank you.

2203
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:33,280
>> Okay. So, it's for uh it's the the

2204
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,080
entire recommendation that that be read

2205
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,239
a first and second time and that there

2206
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:41,920
be a a scheduled um uh open public

2207
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,920
meeting public hearing on September the

2208
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,560
8th and that staff give notice to the

2209
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,000
public hearing in accordance with the

2210
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,360
recommendations. That's what we're

2211
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,800
voting on. All right. All in favor

2212
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,520
against? No. Thank you very much. That

2213
01:33:55,520 --> 01:34:08,470
car

2214
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:12,320
Sorry, we will now have um a chief

2215
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:17,760
administrative officer report. This is

2216
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,840
>> uh in community services, the park

2217
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,760
benches and picnic tables have been

2218
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:23,280
ordered for Metoark Park and

2219
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,600
Playgrounds, which good news for lots of

2220
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,600
people. and the outdoor uh fitness

2221
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,840
equipment has been ordered as well. The

2222
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,560
cactus kids day camp is slowly winding

2223
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:33,920
down. The leaders have done a great job

2224
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,920
in entertaining the kids despite not

2225
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,600
being able to go outside due to the

2226
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,760
smoke. And the last day of camp is on

2227
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:43,199
August 21st. Fall program planning is

2228
01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:45,440
underway and staff are looking to put in

2229
01:34:45,440 --> 01:34:47,600
new programs in response to the program

2230
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,480
survey that was online and many of our

2231
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:53,840
residents responded to. At Sun Bowl, ice

2232
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:55,520
times are filling up with both scheduled

2233
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,120
hockey events and with private users. In

2234
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:00,960
corporate services, the front counter

2235
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,600
staff are fielding calls as Miss Keith

2236
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:07,120
mentioned uh about setting up the My 360

2237
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:11,280
online water monitoring app. And uh as

2238
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,280
we also mentioned, there is been about

2239
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,840
200 residents register for the free

2240
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,719
service already. Bylaw officers are w

2241
01:35:18,719 --> 01:35:20,560
issuing watering tickets now and

2242
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,639
following up on boats and sidus that

2243
01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:25,120
have been parked on the town's beaches.

2244
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,120
Parking tickets were suspended during

2245
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,080
the period of time of some fire evacuees

2246
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,400
being in town. Um they were taking

2247
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,639
refuge on our street. So we suspended

2248
01:35:34,639 --> 01:35:36,880
all parking tickets for the for that

2249
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:38,560
period of time.

2250
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,400
Uh preparations for the election are

2251
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:41,920
well underway now with the development

2252
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,480
of forms and the assembly of mail ballot

2253
01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:47,360
packages minus the ballot of course and

2254
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,280
uh initial testing of the automated vote

2255
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,520
counting machines. Uh I want to

2256
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,600
highlight the fact that nominations for

2257
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,639
candidacy uh in the upcoming election

2258
01:35:56,639 --> 01:35:59,040
will be formally accepted between the

2259
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,600
statutory dates and times of September

2260
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,800
1st at 9:00 a.m. and September 11th at

2261
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,440
400 p.m. Anyone considering running in

2262
01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:10,239
the election must submit those forms to

2263
01:36:10,239 --> 01:36:12,960
the chief election officer Amy Robinson

2264
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,120
or her designate between those times for

2265
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,440
their names to appear on the ballot.

2266
01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:19,360
Also for those who may be considering

2267
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,400
candid candidacies but wish to know more

2268
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:23,920
uh please feel free to come into the

2269
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,600
municipal office talk to the election

2270
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,520
officers or to any of the current

2271
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,360
elected officials whether it be in a

2272
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,920
Soyas or another jurisdiction. We really

2273
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,320
recommend firsttime candidates to have a

2274
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:35,920
full understanding of what it's like to

2275
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,560
be an elected official. Um, there's also

2276
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,400
a number of great videos that were

2277
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,320
produced by the province of BC on the

2278
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,760
town's website under 2006 election and

2279
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:47,840
information for candidates that walk

2280
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:49,360
through all the aspects of being an

2281
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,920
elected official. In the communications

2282
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:55,119
area, uh, on Facebook, we now have 94

2283
01:36:55,119 --> 01:36:58,000
followers and there have been 30 posts

2284
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,360
since the last update and 35,000 page

2285
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,960
views. uh websites had 28,000 views

2286
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,080
since the last report and our parking

2287
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:11,199
survey results are live and online on

2288
01:37:11,199 --> 01:37:13,679
that survey page. If anybody hasn't had

2289
01:37:13,679 --> 01:37:16,239
a look at them, we had over 600

2290
01:37:16,239 --> 01:37:19,520
responses and lots and lots of great

2291
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,760
feedback.

2292
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:24,719
Uh the water conservation survey has

2293
01:37:24,719 --> 01:37:26,719
just closed, so those results will be up

2294
01:37:26,719 --> 01:37:28,880
shortly and there was over 200 responses

2295
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,119
to that. In the planning and development

2296
01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:33,440
services, business licenses issued since

2297
01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:36,239
the last update are the Palmus Kitchen

2298
01:37:36,239 --> 01:37:38,960
and Bar at the Holiday Inn, Oracle Real

2299
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,679
Realy, which is home occupation, LS

2300
01:37:41,679 --> 01:37:43,920
Sports and Entertainment for the Isoyas

2301
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,440
Coyotes, and a numbered company uh

2302
01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:49,520
2179639

2303
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,920
Alberta, which is a home occupation for

2304
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,320
painting. Six residential building

2305
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:55,840
permits were issued during the month of

2306
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:59,990
July in the amount of $1,460,000.

2307
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,800
Uh the building official has posted two

2308
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,400
stop work orders on residential

2309
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,000
properties that were either building or

2310
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,040
renovating without permits. The planning

2311
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,520
department also issued three preliminary

2312
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,639
layout reviews uh for sub subdivision

2313
01:38:14,639 --> 01:38:16,400
applicants. So things are really ramping

2314
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,639
up in the in the planning area. Finally,

2315
01:38:18,639 --> 01:38:20,320
for planning, we did get confirmation

2316
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,480
from the ALC that they have received our

2317
01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:25,119
application for the block exclusion and

2318
01:38:25,119 --> 01:38:26,960
they have cautioned us that they are

2319
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,600
facing staffing shortages. So, they're

2320
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,679
um they anticipate there will be delays

2321
01:38:31,679 --> 01:38:34,159
in processing that for financial

2322
01:38:34,159 --> 01:38:36,639
services. Quarter 3 utilities billings

2323
01:38:36,639 --> 01:38:39,920
were issued on August 14th and the bills

2324
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:43,840
will show water consumption for um for

2325
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,639
clients information only. The town

2326
01:38:46,639 --> 01:38:48,560
continues to encourage residents to sign

2327
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,639
up for my 360 in order to have that

2328
01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:53,280
real-time water consumption information

2329
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:57,600
and uh they can go to either a soyc.ca

2330
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,679
there's step-by-step instructions or

2331
01:38:59,679 --> 01:39:01,679
call the town office or come in for

2332
01:39:01,679 --> 01:39:05,040
assistance in signing up. 2027 budget

2333
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:06,560
planning is underway with the fire

2334
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,159
department and sunbo budgets coming

2335
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:10,719
forward to council for the August and

2336
01:39:10,719 --> 01:39:13,440
September meetings respectively. fire

2337
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:16,239
department. Over the first six months of

2338
01:39:16,239 --> 01:39:18,400
the year, Soy Fire Department responded

2339
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,679
to 34% fewer calls for service than over

2340
01:39:21,679 --> 01:39:23,920
the same period of time last year. But

2341
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:25,840
it's important to note that when

2342
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,480
comparing July, just the one month of

2343
01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:31,360
July, 2026 to 25, the calls have

2344
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:35,840
increased by 20%. So it's it's variable.

2345
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,840
uh town the autonomous waste fire

2346
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:39,040
department has been assisting

2347
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,800
firefighting efforts throughout the

2348
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,080
region from August 7th to the 16th. The

2349
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,840
fire department worked alongside other

2350
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,199
fire departments from across the

2351
01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:48,719
province in protecting the town of

2352
01:39:48,719 --> 01:39:51,440
Summerland. The fire department has also

2353
01:39:51,440 --> 01:39:53,440
provided standby coverage to the BC

2354
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:55,040
Wildfire Service for the Southern

2355
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,760
Okonogan for the past two weeks. This

2356
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,320
week, the fire department anticipates

2357
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,480
receiving a shipment of face coverings

2358
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:04,800
from the Canadian Red Cross to assist

2359
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,239
people in the community that are feeling

2360
01:40:06,239 --> 01:40:08,080
the impacts of the smoke. These

2361
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:09,760
coverings will be distributed throughout

2362
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,760
the community for both visitors and

2363
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,159
residents free of charge.

2364
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:16,480
Finally, in operational services, public

2365
01:40:16,480 --> 01:40:18,800
works department has received the

2366
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,719
replacement fountain pump. We've noticed

2367
01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:24,239
our our down at Pioneer Walkway, the the

2368
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:27,199
fountain is not working right now. Um we

2369
01:40:27,199 --> 01:40:28,800
will be installing the new pump in the

2370
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,040
fall. Quail place capital works are

2371
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:32,960
complete and phase one of the 89th

2372
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,920
Street construction is uh paved and um

2373
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:39,360
nearing completion. Uh director of

2374
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,320
operations Tyler Madison Madson, I'm

2375
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:47,520
sorry, has left his position with the town to take a position as CEO in

2376
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,600
Liilowette. So we wish him all the best

2377
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:51,840
in his new job. And we're very pleased

2378
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,560
to have Deputy Director of Operational

2379
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,719
Services, Jill Abney, acting as

2380
01:40:56,719 --> 01:41:04,709
director.

2381
01:41:04,719 --> 01:41:07,280
» Thank you, Risha. Thank you very much.

2382
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,360
And thank you, Jill, for stepping in.

2383
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,679
Appreciate it. Um,

2384
01:41:11,679 --> 01:41:12,639
>> did you have a question? Sure.

2385
01:41:12,639 --> 01:41:14,719
>> Just one question. Has the town received

2386
01:41:14,719 --> 01:41:16,560
any update if the musical right is

2387
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,480
moving forward this Saturday or has it

2388
01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:20,639
been cancelled?

2389
01:41:20,639 --> 01:41:22,719
As far as I know, it's it's uh it's

2390
01:41:22,719 --> 01:41:23,840
still scheduled to

2391
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:25,520
>> Okay. Thank you.

2392
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:26,960
>> And it's Sunday,

2393
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:28,639
>> not Saturday.

2394
01:41:28,639 --> 01:41:30,915
>> But [laughter]

2395
01:41:30,915 --> 01:41:34,719
[gasps] okay. Um can we go to council?

2396
01:41:34,719 --> 01:41:37,040
Oh, we need to receive the CEO report

2397
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,040
for information, please. Thank you,

2398
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,880
Councelor Puerto Rica. Councelor King.

2399
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:44,000
All in favor? Thank you. Okay, councelor

2400
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,560
King, you're next. Yeah, not too much to

2401
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,480
report other than I guess people might

2402
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:50,159
know my wife he ordered her back. So now

2403
01:41:50,159 --> 01:41:52,080
I become the chief cook and bottle

2404
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:54,719
washer.

2405
01:41:54,719 --> 01:41:56,159
>> Do you make cookies too?

2406
01:41:56,159 --> 01:41:59,910
>> Yeah. [laughter]

2407
01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:01,679
» Good. Okay. Thank you, Councelor

2408
01:42:01,679 --> 01:42:03,440
Bennett.

2409
01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:05,760
>> I have nothing to report for this

2410
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,400
meeting. Thank you,

2411
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,040
>> Councelor Chong.

2412
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:12,719
>> I have something to report.

2413
01:42:12,719 --> 01:42:14,560
>> Oh.

2414
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,080
Uh oh. What did you win?

2415
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:20,320
>> A so every year Assus and in Assus Golf

2416
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,400
Club and Incom Golf Club play against

2417
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,320
each other for the Ryder Cup and I'm

2418
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,360
happy to announce that Assus has won two

2419
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:29,119
years in a row. [gasps]

2420
01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:32,560
So just wanted to gloat a bit. So thank

2421
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,639
you to all the staff from both Inkam

2422
01:42:34,639 --> 01:42:37,520
Golf Course and Assus Golf Club for all

2423
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,159
the hard work they do. And uh also thank

2424
01:42:40,159 --> 01:42:43,199
you head pro Matt for the pity pick of

2425
01:42:43,199 --> 01:42:48,149
me for being on the team.

2426
01:42:48,159 --> 01:42:50,639
» Terrific. Thank you councelor Potter

2427
01:42:50,639 --> 01:42:51,199
Rica.

2428
01:42:51,199 --> 01:42:57,840
>> Uh worship no trophies this week but uh on July 29th attended yourself. Um

2429
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,040
the um Suz Center had the official

2430
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:02,480
ribbon cutting and unveiling of their

2431
01:43:02,480 --> 01:43:05,119
new accessible washroom project uh which

2432
01:43:05,119 --> 01:43:06,960
has added two uh fully wheelchair

2433
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,000
accessible uh washroom stalls um to

2434
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,880
their uh center. Uh a great addition

2435
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,360
there obviously um as part of the

2436
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:16,400
accessibility improvements have been

2437
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,320
made over the last couple years uh to

2438
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,400
the property uh allowing uh more

2439
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,159
visitors um easier access to the

2440
01:43:22,159 --> 01:43:24,400
property. And aside from that, just some

2441
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:25,600
meetings with I've had some recent

2442
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:26,800
meetings with regards to the fire and

2443
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,679
ice festival uh currently planned for uh

2444
01:43:29,679 --> 01:43:33,119
later this year. And that's my report.

2445
01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:36,159
>> Thank you. So um yeah, I have a couple

2446
01:43:36,159 --> 01:43:39,920
things. Um one, I was also at the Desert

2447
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:44,000
Center um opening of the of the very

2448
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:48,800
nice washrooms which used to be at 7710,

2449
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:52,719
our property. uh and um it was well

2450
01:43:52,719 --> 01:43:55,440
attended and despite the fact there was

2451
01:43:55,440 --> 01:43:58,960
smoke um it was um there were quite a

2452
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,800
few people there so appreciate being

2453
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,760
invited to that. Um I've been on several

2454
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,159
RDOS meetings, regional district

2455
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:10,400
meetings. Um I do get updates

2456
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,520
two or three times a day on fire issues

2457
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,000
in the regional district and I know that

2458
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,280
there that certainly that's available on

2459
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:23,360
all the news media. So including um uh

2460
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,960
updates from our fire chief as well on

2461
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:30,239
not necessarily the ones uh close to

2462
01:44:30,239 --> 01:44:32,159
Summerland but mostly the ones across

2463
01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:34,639
the line that we're still dealing with.

2464
01:44:34,639 --> 01:44:37,440
them and we seem to have a few more. So,

2465
01:44:37,440 --> 01:44:42,159
that's been a lot. Um, recently um I

2466
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:45,600
have also been on EMCR, that's emergency

2467
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,400
management, climate readiness meetings

2468
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:52,400
um uh probably every two weeks,

2469
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:55,199
sometimes it's every week, just updates

2470
01:44:55,199 --> 01:45:00,000
on um the river forecast, the wildfires,

2471
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,119
and how many um how many there are and

2472
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:05,360
where they are. And that information is

2473
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,840
pretty available to everybody too. But I

2474
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:11,920
do attend those ones. Um the the meeting

2475
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:16,080
that we had um here um we had an an

2476
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:20,239
invitation from uh Walrus, the water uh

2477
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:23,920
land and resource stewardship um

2478
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:27,040
minister to um attend a meeting in

2479
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:32,719
Assuyas and uh talk to um us about um

2480
01:45:32,719 --> 01:45:35,679
some of the big concerns that they that

2481
01:45:35,679 --> 01:45:38,880
they had were drought um and drought

2482
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:40,000
preparation.

2483
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:45,920
and response. Um and also um agriculture

2484
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,000
was another one of their issues that

2485
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,280
they wanted to talk about and also um

2486
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,920
their uh department have also taken on

2487
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:57,760
zebra kaga muscles. So they they know

2488
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:00,400
that um that I have been involved with

2489
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,199
that for many years with Okonogan Basin

2490
01:46:03,199 --> 01:46:05,440
Water Board and the Okonogan Basin Water

2491
01:46:05,440 --> 01:46:08,800
Board um three of them from uh attended

2492
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:12,080
the meeting as well. So um uh Mrs.

2493
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:16,080
Coulson very kindly put out some water

2494
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:19,679
resource management briefing um notes

2495
01:46:19,679 --> 01:46:22,800
and I have some here for council um for

2496
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:26,480
them to um to have a look at. um she was

2497
01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:30,000
here and her staff for um an hour and a

2498
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:32,639
half or so and we had a good

2499
01:46:32,639 --> 01:46:35,600
conversation about about water issues

2500
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,480
and what we're doing um in the town of

2501
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:41,040
Asuyus to help things and of course

2502
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:44,320
Okonogan Basin Water Board also um gave

2503
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:47,360
the gave some information for that one.

2504
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,679
Um I know that it was mentioned this

2505
01:46:49,679 --> 01:46:51,920
morning the [clears throat] Etsy BC

2506
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:56,000
grant that um destination is Suya Scott.

2507
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,760
Um the new grant application time is

2508
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:03,440
September 1st to October the 8th 2026.

2509
01:47:03,440 --> 01:47:05,360
So that goes for everybody in the

2510
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,000
Thompson Okonogan and the Columbia

2511
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,440
Coupney region to apply for grants. I

2512
01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:13,440
can provide information on that, but

2513
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:15,440
there's a lot of information online as

2514
01:47:15,440 --> 01:47:18,320
well. Of course, we've been dealing with

2515
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:22,320
a lot of of um of water issues um not

2516
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:26,320
only in the town, but u reducing our our

2517
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:30,159
um water down to one day a week. It's I

2518
01:47:30,159 --> 01:47:33,119
think it's it's made quite a difference

2519
01:47:33,119 --> 01:47:36,080
to people to think, how am I going to do

2520
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,199
this? Um because you can only water your

2521
01:47:39,199 --> 01:47:42,800
lawns. um once a week. But I do know

2522
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:46,239
that um Sigree Kendrick, who is the

2523
01:47:46,239 --> 01:47:49,280
Okonogan Zeroscape Association

2524
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:52,400
um executive director, has pointed out

2525
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,199
that do handwatering

2526
01:47:55,199 --> 01:47:58,239
um with your plants because save those.

2527
01:47:58,239 --> 01:48:01,119
They if your lawn goes golden, that will

2528
01:48:01,119 --> 01:48:03,920
come back at some point. But um make

2529
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:05,840
sure that you hand water. So, in the

2530
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,000
morning, I've got my bucket and I'm out

2531
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,080
watering my plants and my couple of

2532
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,880
tomato plants. So, um we certainly

2533
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,920
recommend that people take it seriously

2534
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:19,840
and remember we had um suggested at the

2535
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,000
last meeting that if anybody had any

2536
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:26,639
good ideas on how to um save water or um

2537
01:48:26,639 --> 01:48:28,480
they should come up with it. So, a

2538
01:48:28,480 --> 01:48:30,480
friend of mine said to me, you know,

2539
01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:33,600
when I get in the shower in the morning,

2540
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,560
I have a bucket in there because I'm not

2541
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:38,480
ready to step into the shower until it's

2542
01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:45,760
warm enough to get into. So, I save that uh water in your in my bucket and I

2543
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,440
then take it out after. And I thought,

2544
01:48:47,440 --> 01:48:49,520
"Wow, I hadn't thought of that one, but

2545
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:51,760
that's a good one." I think that the

2546
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,239
other thing is better uses of gray

2547
01:48:54,239 --> 01:48:57,040
water. And we we probably need to put

2548
01:48:57,040 --> 01:49:00,639
that into um into our thinking as well.

2549
01:49:00,639 --> 01:49:03,679
And having rain barrels and I know we've

2550
01:49:03,679 --> 01:49:06,719
had no rain, but um occasionally when we

2551
01:49:06,719 --> 01:49:10,000
do get um uh rain, it's quite easy to

2552
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:12,960
collect um stuff in a rain barrel. So

2553
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,119
those are all ideas that we need to come

2554
01:49:15,119 --> 01:49:18,719
up with. And um and the other thing that

2555
01:49:18,719 --> 01:49:22,000
I want to mention is the rolling barrage

2556
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,320
which is a coast to coast ride

2557
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,040
motorcyclists um they're come across

2558
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,600
Canada. It's the 10th annual and they're

2559
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:33,840
coming to combat uh PTSD and they're

2560
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:37,840
coming through OSUS on Friday afternoon.

2561
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:42,320
That's the 21st from 4:00 till 5:15 I

2562
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,960
believe. and they're going to be at what

2563
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:48,800
I call the husky um the co-op up beside

2564
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,080
the visitors center and um they have

2565
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:54,560
asked that anybody who would like to

2566
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,280
come out and support them uh please do

2567
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:00,480
so. So council, if I will certainly be

2568
01:50:00,480 --> 01:50:04,800
there, if any of you want to um to join

2569
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:06,880
and come out and support these people,

2570
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,119
there are then on their way to Princeton

2571
01:50:09,119 --> 01:50:12,080
and then to Vancouver. But um this is

2572
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:15,920
being handled by um our fire chief uh

2573
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:17,840
Chief Cook. And I'm just wondering if

2574
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:19,600
you could give us a little bit more

2575
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:22,960
information on this, please.

2576
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:26,719
>> Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. Actually, you uh you touched on many of the uh the

2577
01:50:26,719 --> 01:50:28,719
main points uh with this ride coming

2578
01:50:28,719 --> 01:50:31,199
through town. Uh what I can add is that

2579
01:50:31,199 --> 01:50:33,280
it's estimated between 150 to 200

2580
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,600
motorcyclists will be entering town on

2581
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:37,920
along Highway 3 from the east. Uh the

2582
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,080
Soyuse Fire Department, uh we will have

2583
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:41,679
apparatus on the east side of town to

2584
01:50:41,679 --> 01:50:43,199
welcome everyone in. And then we will

2585
01:50:43,199 --> 01:50:46,400
set up a table uh with an engine. um at

2586
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,280
the uh co-op gas station uh we'll have

2587
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,719
water, Gatorade, uh treats uh and things

2588
01:50:52,719 --> 01:50:54,560
of those nature or of that nature,

2589
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,800
pardon me, for for the writers. Uh there

2590
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:59,520
is an opportunity for council uh myself

2591
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,880
even uh to meet with the ride organizers

2592
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:06,080
uh Jim and Steve um who will who are

2593
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:07,920
leading the uh leading the charge so to

2594
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,239
speak across the country uh where we can

2595
01:51:10,239 --> 01:51:12,159
welcome them to the town and of course

2596
01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:14,639
uh that's where council uh is is

2597
01:51:14,639 --> 01:51:16,639
obviously more than welcome or be great

2598
01:51:16,639 --> 01:51:18,320
to have council there to to welcome the

2599
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:20,239
group there.

2600
01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:22,880
>> Thank you. So, if anybody uh in the

2601
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:24,480
community would like to come out and see

2602
01:51:24,480 --> 01:51:27,920
them, um please anybody who wishes to

2603
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,960
please come and uh and stop in and say

2604
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:34,320
hello to them. Um and certainly council,

2605
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,520
you're um invited as well. So, that's on

2606
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:40,560
Friday. So, I think that's all of the

2607
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:45,119
issues that I have today. So I will um

2608
01:51:45,119 --> 01:51:48,159
move to the in camera portion of the

2609
01:51:48,159 --> 01:51:51,520
meeting and that pursuant to section 91

2610
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,679
of the community charter a part of the

2611
01:51:53,679 --> 01:51:55,360
council meeting may be closed to the

2612
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,520
public if the subject matter being

2613
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,360
considered relates to one or more of the

2614
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,880
following. 91K negotiations and related

2615
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,280
discussions respecting the proposed

2616
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,599
provision of a municipal service that

2617
01:52:07,599 --> 01:52:10,639
are at their preliminary stages and that

2618
01:52:10,639 --> 01:52:12,159
in the view of the council could

2619
01:52:12,159 --> 01:52:14,159
reasonably be expected to harm the

2620
01:52:14,159 --> 01:52:16,480
interests of the municipality if they

2621
01:52:16,480 --> 01:52:19,199
were held in public. Could I have a

2622
01:52:19,199 --> 01:52:21,199
motion to go in camera? Thank you.

2623
01:52:21,199 --> 01:52:23,280
Councelor Puerto Rica. Councelor King.

2624
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:25,840
All in favor?