[0:00] Okay, good afternoon everyone. Welcome [0:03] to the regular open meeting of the [0:05] Sewish Town Council, Tuesday, August the [0:07] 18th at 2 p.m. in council chambers. So, [0:11] could we please have [clears throat] an [0:13] approval of the agenda and there are no [0:16] late items? No. Thank you. Thank you, [0:19] Councelor Bennett, Councelor Chong. All [0:22] in favor? Thank you. and the adoption of [0:25] some minutes, the regular open minutes [0:27] from July the 21st and the special open [0:30] minutes from July the 28th. Could we [0:33] have the adoption councelor King, [0:34] Councelor Potter Rica? All in favor? [0:37] Thank you. So, first off, we have a [0:40] development variance permit application [0:44] DVP 26-02 [0:47] for 8 Chardonnay Court and our planner [0:50] um Miss Dwang is online. So, please go [0:54] ahead, Miss Dwang. [0:57] >> Thank you. So, I don't have a a [0:59] PowerPoint presentation for this item [1:00] since we just reviewed it at the last [1:02] council meeting. Um, but just as a quick [1:04] recap, at the last council meeting in [1:06] July, um, council had postponed [1:08] consideration of this item pending [1:10] further information regarding the [1:11] driveway dimensions at the property. Um, [1:14] so staff did end up following up on the [1:16] resolution by undertaking a site visit [1:17] to measure out uh, the driveway and it [1:20] was found that the driveway is [1:21] approximately 6.4 4 m to 6.9 m um as it [1:24] exists between the building wall um to [1:28] the end of the driveway as it extends [1:30] beyond the parcel line but excludes uh [1:32] the sidewalk area of course and uh we [1:35] just want to highlight that despite this [1:37] from a staff perspective uh we just we [1:40] do reiterate that the purpose of the [1:41] provision of off- streetet uh parking [1:43] within the parcel boundaries is [1:44] generally to avoid externalization of [1:47] uses on public lands um and also to [1:49] mitigate potential conflicts associated [1:51] with those. Um, additionally, we do [1:53] remain concerned regarding the potential [1:55] cumulative impacts of similar variance [1:58] requests coming in um, along Chardonnay [2:00] court and the potential approval of [2:01] those requests where this application [2:03] were to be approved. So, uh, we are [2:06] continuing to recommend denial uh, with [2:08] respect to this application. Thank you. [2:11] >> Uh, thank you very much, Miss Dwong. I'm [2:14] going to um ask if the applicant, Miss [2:18] McCay or the applicant's uh um designate [2:23] would like to speak. You have five [2:24] minutes. Thank you. [2:27] >> Thank you, Mayor McCordoff. Um my name [2:30] is Gina McCay. I am the applicant for [2:31] the owner at 8 Chardonnay Court. And [2:34] Terl actually wanted to be here today, [2:35] but she wasn't able to, so she did [2:37] provide a letter that I'll read for her [2:39] on her behalf. Attention to Sue Town [2:42] Council. Thanks for taking the time to [2:44] review my variance request in detail. I [2:46] understand that Ms. Mccay has [2:47] represented my case thoroughly, but I [2:49] believe a letter of self-representation [2:51] will also add some enlightenment to this [2:53] application. One year ago, my two boys [2:55] and I purchased the newly built home at 8 Chardonnay Court. I purchased [2:59] this home in a quiet residential street [3:02] in Paradise in hopes this would be my [3:03] forever bungalow in my retirement and [3:05] later years. In the final negotiations [3:08] of the sale of the house, it was agreed [3:09] in the final offer that a full kitchen [3:11] with all appliances would be added as an [3:13] independent suite in the house which has [3:16] a door connecting to the upstairs. With [3:18] the understanding that this would be [3:19] done lawfully and with permitting, I [3:21] agreed to the sale and purchase the [3:22] home. Based on my single income, it not [3:25] been feasible for me to purchase the [3:26] home without the option of having [3:28] tenants in this independent dwelling. [3:29] With that in mind, my real estate and I [3:31] addressed the legalization of the suite [3:33] and I told her it was paramount to [3:34] moving forward. We were reassured by the [3:37] selling agent that the suite would be [3:38] able to be legalized and met full [3:40] requirements. My largest concern if [3:42] there is damage to the home in an [3:44] independent dwelling, my insurance would [3:46] not cover the cost of the damage. It is [3:48] also important in alignment with my [3:50] morals that we do things right and avoid [3:52] illegal business activities. Upon taking [3:54] ownership of the home, um it was [3:56] incredibly important for me to have the [3:58] suite legalized. Without approval of the [4:00] variance, the secondary suite cannot be [4:02] legalized and the rental income required [4:04] to sustain home home ownership will no [4:06] longer be possible. After I moved into [4:08] the home, I started to legalize the [4:10] suite, but came up with the issue of [4:12] tenants parking on my driveway. I put in [4:14] an application in November last year and [4:16] then was um weeks later was it was made [4:18] clear to me that the reason having [4:20] tenants park in my driveway has become a [4:22] concern is that the town um property is [4:26] um is about onethird of my driveway. Um [4:29] this was a fact that I was never made [4:31] aware of at the time of the sale of the [4:32] home. As we move further into the [4:34] approval, I became aware that the [4:35] builder had not applied for the required [4:37] building permit to build the kitchen in [4:38] the suite, which is another major [4:40] concern to having the suite legalized. [4:43] As the matter continued and the [4:44] terminology in the process became far [4:46] more complex for me to handle on my own, [4:48] I withdrew my application and to [4:50] consider my options. At this point, I [4:52] was advised that Ms. McCay was available [4:54] for hire and could professionally handle [4:56] my application. In this application, my [4:59] neighbors have brought up many valuable [5:01] points and concerns regarding parking on [5:03] the street, and I validate their [5:05] concerns. I'm also in agreement with my [5:07] neighbors about the width of our [5:08] culde-sac road and the ability of [5:10] emergency vehicles to pass and children [5:12] at play, mine being two of them. Um, [5:16] this application is a specific request [5:18] to allow the town to allow my tenant to [5:20] park on the town's portion of my [5:21] driveway and not in the street at all. [5:24] My neighbors have never comp commented [5:25] or complained about my tenants parking [5:27] in the street as it's simply been a [5:29] non-issue and doesn't happen. After the [5:31] last council meeting, my driveway was [5:33] measured and it was proven that there [5:34] was enough room to park three vehicles [5:36] in my driveway. My neighbors will agree [5:38] that over the last year, the tenants [5:40] have been in my suite, they have never [5:42] parked on the street. I also believe [5:44] that my neighbors would agree that only [5:45] a few times have they ever seen my [5:47] company park on the street. That is only [5:49] if it's been a major holiday. If that's [5:51] a concern, my my family is more than [5:53] happy to park on 36th Avenue. The [5:56] application at this variance is [5:57] regarding whether the town is willing to [5:59] allow my tenant to park on their portion [6:00] of the driveway 100% off the street 100% [6:04] of the time. Once again, I appreciate [6:06] your careful consideration of this [6:07] matter and trust you will understand the [6:10] reasoning to have this parking approved [6:12] so it's able to be lawful to have a [6:13] legal suite in my home to manage the [6:15] costs associated with my home to add [6:17] well scrutinized reference checked [6:19] population density to su and to maintain [6:22] a quiet peaceful culde-sac. Uh with kind [6:25] regards Terrell Hector. Now I just [6:27] personally from a professional [6:28] perspective want to take one moment to [6:30] just identify four specific points. [6:32] First council asked that the driveway be [6:34] measured and then the town's um has [6:36] confirmed now that it's four 6.4 to 6.9 [6:39] m long which is more than the 6 m [6:42] minimum. The application does not seek [6:44] uh permission for street parking or [6:47] another suite. It seeks a specific sight [6:49] specific variance for the parking [6:51] requirement associated with one [6:53] secondary suite. The precedent uh [6:56] concern it should be considered for [6:57] sure. Um but approval of this variance [7:00] does not create a blanket exemption. [7:02] Each future application will remain [7:04] subject to its own sightsp specific [7:07] assessment. And I just want to remind [7:09] council that the application for the DVP [7:12] was made made in order to address the [7:14] situation that the homeowner became [7:16] aware of after she attempted to obtain a [7:18] business license. It was not made in [7:20] response to a bylaw complaint or for any [7:23] concerns received at town hall because [7:25] of street parking um by the owner's [7:27] tenants. Thank you. Thanks. [7:30] >> Thank you very much, Miss McKay. Um, [7:35] council, does anybody have any questions [7:38] or concerns about this application? [7:45] I have one question and perhaps Miss [7:48] McCay can answer it. Perhaps Miss Dwong [7:50] can. We have heard from several people [7:54] in the culde-sac that there is not just [7:58] one um suite in the basement, but in [8:01] fact there are two. And several people [8:03] have [8:05] sent us emails saying that they're they [8:08] have seen and talked to the two renters [8:12] in the basement. Has can you answer [8:16] that, Miss McCay, or um I'm I'm not sure [8:19] where to go with that information. [8:21] >> Thank you, Mayor McCordov. I actually [8:23] cannot either um um collaborate or deny [8:26] that. I have not seen that portion of [8:28] the basement. I have seen the suite. I [8:30] have not been into the other portion of [8:32] the basement, but the tenant or the [8:34] owner, Ter [8:36] a um roommate who whose roommate whose [8:40] room is in the basement and she can [8:42] access that suite from outside. So, as [8:45] part of the building permit application [8:47] process, the um the owner has no problem [8:49] having that area of the house inspected [8:51] and if anything needs to be brought up [8:53] to code or whatnot, she has no problem [8:55] with that. But there is only one suite [8:57] and she's applying for one suite [9:03] » council. This becomes very confusing [9:06] because we have had numerous uh [9:10] residents on the street that have um [9:14] sent us information that we have to [9:17] consider. and the um the owner of the [9:21] property who owned the whole property at [9:24] one point and did the developing uh of the 18 lots is quite concerned about [9:32] what is happening. Um so um we're this [9:36] is a a difficult um issue to deal with. [9:40] I guess I will go first. I am quite [9:43] concerned about all of the buildings and [9:46] the then the cars and the trucks and [9:49] everything else that could be in there. [9:51] And um I my my I'm tempted to uh go [9:56] along with the recommendation that this [10:00] variance be denied and I am happy to [10:03] listen to anybody else on council who [10:05] would like to speak to this. [10:10] No, [10:11] go ahead, counselor Chong. [10:15] >> Thank you. I think me and Jim were just [10:17] having a little bit of a [10:24] » fair enough. Um I think it's important [10:27] to to clarify um this this case here. I [10:31] mean there is some confusion. Uh there [10:35] seems to be a consistent theme through [10:38] all the correspondents and that is a [10:40] concern of um blocking emergency [10:44] vehicles um from entering the culdeac [10:47] because there may be vehicles that are [10:49] parked on the street. However, as as [10:52] staff have confirmed, there is adequate [10:55] space on the driveway for um all three [10:59] vehicles to park on the driveway. And [11:02] that space also aligns with our um [11:05] parking bylaws. The issue here is that [11:08] by the property line, part of that space [11:11] is public even though it's paved exactly [11:14] the same as the rest of the driveway. [11:17] Um, from the aerial [11:20] photographs, [11:21] there is a sidewalk as well, but it [11:24] seems like staff had measured only the [11:26] driveway, and vehicles that park on the [11:30] driveway would not be butdding onto the [11:32] sidewalk either. So, this comes down, in [11:37] my opinion, this comes down to the [11:39] spirit of the law and the letter of the [11:41] law. the spirit of the law, [11:44] this property does comply with having [11:48] adequate space for the parking [11:51] requirements that we have instilled. [11:54] The issue is is the invisible lie. Now [11:58] that is where the letter of the law [11:59] comes into play. [12:01] My larger concern is how this [12:06] development could have [12:10] passed all those checks. And it seems [12:13] like there the owner had done as much of [12:16] her due diligence to check those boxes. [12:19] But as we know with property purchases, [12:21] there's always things that rear ugly [12:22] heads. [12:24] I think that these variances come to [12:27] council for a reason and that is because [12:29] they are case by case determination and [12:31] then none of them are the same and it's [12:34] up to us to make that decision [12:36] and in my opinion this variance I I'm in [12:40] support of the variance because [12:44] it doesn't actually there is minimal to [12:46] no risk of vehicles being parked on the [12:49] side of the street that driveway in all [12:52] intents and purposes is does comply [12:56] except for that invisible eye. [13:00] » Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. [13:02] My concern is I guess that that might [13:05] work for a car if uh we have a truck or [13:09] a motor home or um some of the vehicles [13:12] could be quite a bit longer and [13:14] therefore they would not fit on there [13:16] and that was one of the issues that was [13:18] brought up the last time. Um, but you're [13:21] quite right. It's confusing. We've been [13:23] dealing with it for a month and we've [13:25] had lots and lots of correspondence [13:27] about it. So, is there anybody else who [13:29] would like to weigh in on this? Go [13:32] ahead, council. [13:33] >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Could I just get [13:34] clarity on the width? I'm old school. [13:36] Can you do it in footage for me? The [13:38] width and the length. [13:41] >> Maybe we should ask Miss Dwang. She is [13:44] the one who wrote the brief report. [13:46] Could we could you clarify that, please? [13:50] I am just doing the quick math because I [13:52] also don't know it off the top of my [13:54] head. [laughter] [13:57] So 6.4 m to feet is 20.99 ft. [14:04] 6.9 m to feet is 22.64t. [14:14] » Thank you. Does that help? That would be [14:18] sort of a truck. [14:19] >> So you feel comfortable if there's three [14:21] cars side by side, at least one door in [14:25] each vehicle could open in that width. [14:30] » So with respect to the measurements [14:32] provided, those were actually the [14:33] lengths of the driveway itself, not the [14:35] actual not the width of the driveway [14:37] because the width wasn't what was of uh [14:40] potential concern. It was largely the [14:42] length. [14:44] understand that, but it was presented [14:46] that three cars could park there. So, I [14:48] just want to make sure we understand the [14:50] width and the length. [14:52] I do understand about the concern about [14:54] the length. That's what we're talking [14:55] about the variance. [15:01] Do you have any um any um measurements [15:06] of the width of the driveway, [15:08] Mr. One? Um just looking at the permit [15:11] um it appears that the driveway is [15:13] approximately 7.2 m in width. Um that's [15:18] again approximate because we didn't go [15:20] out and measure um [15:22] >> the side of the driveway to the other [15:24] side of the driveway. Um but a vehicle [15:28] parking space is required to be 2.7 m in [15:31] width uh as per the zoning bylaw [15:35] >> each one. So three times 2.7 m Somebody [15:39] got to figure that out quickly. It [15:41] doesn't sound like it fits. [laughter] [15:45] 8.1. [15:49] Um, thank you. Is there anyone else who [15:52] has a question or a concern? [15:56] No, I'm sorry that the this is just [15:58] council I'm talking to. Um, councelor [16:01] Bennett, would you like to [16:03] >> uh Thank you. Yeah. Where I'm a little [16:05] bit confused is there's three people [16:08] three suites and three cars that are [16:11] parked there now. And basically they all [16:14] fit the driveway and it seems like most [16:17] of all the driveways are the same. [16:20] They're all not up to code. They're not [16:22] long enough according to this. So if if [16:26] there is a fourth car and that car is [16:28] parked up in front of the people's in [16:30] front of them all the time, I could see [16:32] people have been upset. But if these [16:34] three cars have been parked there and [16:35] they're not in people's road when the [16:37] letters I'm reading from here sounds [16:39] more like there's a fourth car that's [16:41] parked on somebody's drive in somebody's [16:43] lawn that's that's parked out on the [16:46] street but you're saying it's not. [16:48] There's three cars parked in the [16:50] driveway. So I'm not sure what exactly [16:53] that other car is that fourth car is [16:56] that in case another suite comes. [17:01] Don't I don't think there was there's [17:03] not the two suites. Apparently, there is [17:07] the person who lives with the owner has [17:10] a ba a basement suite, a basement room. [17:12] That's what it sounded like. Who perhaps [17:15] has a car and the owner has a car and [17:18] the renter has a car. So, that's three. [17:20] Yeah. So, I wouldn't probably need four, [17:22] right? [17:24] >> Anybody else? Go ahead. Councelor [17:26] Potter. [17:27] >> Thank you. Three to Mong. um in a single [17:32] um [17:34] in the way this property was originally [17:35] built, what would have been the distance [17:37] required for the driveway without um any [17:41] requirement for um the secondary suite [17:45] or a proposed secondary suite? [17:50] » Sorry, was the question uh what was the [17:52] required length at the time that it was [17:54] developed? [17:56] >> Length for the depth. Yes. Uh provided [17:58] there was no secondary suite or proposal [17:59] for secondary suite. [18:01] >> So the development would have been [18:03] completed prior to the current zoning [18:06] bylaw being in existence. I believe uh [18:08] zoning bylaw 1085 [18:10] would have been in place at the time in [18:12] which the development um occurred. Um so [18:15] with that in mind, there would have been [18:16] a reduced parking uh dimension [18:21] that would have been applied. Um, [18:25] off the top of my head, I'm not sure. [18:27] I'm just pulling it up right now. [18:35] So, under zoning bylaw 1085, the [18:38] required stall depth would have been 5.8 [18:41] m. [18:50] » Okay, thank you. Um but may just [18:54] um as I'm trying to sort through this I [18:58] think I do share the concern of the um [19:01] the owner um that you know they uh [19:04] appear to have purchased the property [19:05] which they were miss um [19:08] that they were led to believe by the [19:10] selling realtor that they were [19:12] purchasing a property with the legal [19:14] suite which in fact it is not. I am re [19:17] recognizing that that was done um [19:19] originally when they went to proceed to [19:22] um require a building permit uh for the [19:24] purpose of a short-term rental and now [19:26] seeking um this parking amendment for a [19:29] um legal secondary suite that would [19:32] obviously have to be meet the code. I do [19:35] share that frustration with them if that [19:36] is the case. Um I do share the concern [19:38] of the neighbors that you know um their [19:41] conver you know their comments and of [19:43] course we can't you know without [19:44] physically seeing whether or not what [19:46] you know what actually uh fills the [19:48] basement of that property um based on [19:51] the diagrams um that have been submitted [19:53] that's all we have to work with. Um so I [19:56] do share both those concerns. However, I [19:58] do share the concern also that um you [20:01] know the development in existence in [20:03] Chara um you know there is various [20:06] lengths and depths of the depths of the [20:09] parking that's available. Um I did tour [20:11] that area last week take a look and see [20:13] especially at the proposed property um [20:17] that there is concern I think of [20:18] vehicles on the overhang as they you [20:20] know some definitely could accommodate [20:22] that. uh we don't have any knowledge of [20:24] any legal or uh secondary suites that we [20:27] can verify in that neighborhood and that [20:28] is you know obviously another concern [20:30] because my my concern moving forward is [20:34] how many more situations are we going to [20:36] have with this and just the rest of [20:38] council I think we got to be a little [20:39] cautious as to that consideration moving [20:41] forward as to what route we do go down. [20:47] » Thank you. Um, so the the lengths [20:52] according to the the report range from [20:54] 4.36 m to 4.53 m. So regardless of which [20:59] version of the bylaw, it would not have [21:01] been long enough either. So my [21:05] frustration is how is this development? [21:08] How did it pass all those checks when [21:12] like we knew that the driveway wasn't [21:15] long enough period? [21:17] So [21:19] the an error was made somewhere [21:22] and I think it's just fair for us to [21:25] grant a variance that allows that error [21:28] to be somewhat rectified [21:30] because if if we're going to, you know, [21:33] put the hammer down according to the [21:35] bylaw by dimensions, then technically I [21:39] guess that development should never have [21:40] passed because the driveway was not long [21:42] enough period. [21:45] So I guess it's what is council's wish [21:48] here [21:51] >> and I mean it's unfortunate that the [21:53] owner has purchased the house house with [21:55] the understanding that it was a an [21:58] aillegal suite in the basement and in [22:00] fact it was not and that is a problem [22:03] that I uh maybe it's not her problem but [22:07] it definitely is a problem of people who [22:09] are selling and filling out the [22:12] paperwork for their properties when [22:14] things have not been done properly. And [22:16] I'm sure that that um I'm hoping that [22:19] doesn't happen often or at all, but it [22:22] seems to have in this place. Um I I'm [22:26] not sure what you would like to do. So, [22:28] we have the option of the of uh the [22:33] recommended motion on here. Um or um if [22:38] that is not appropriate, then do we have [22:40] a motion? Somebody like to make put a [22:42] motion on the floor. [22:45] [clears throat] [22:47] Go ahead. [22:50] Um, I would like to move uh option [22:56] one [22:58] that uh the variance be approved but [23:01] subject to final inspection to ensure [23:04] that there's only one [23:07] um [clears throat] suite [23:09] in the property. [23:14] Thank you. [23:16] Have you got that? Um, Mrs. Coulson [23:20] or or [23:22] Mrs. Robinson. Did you get that? Okay, [23:25] thank you. Is there a seconder for that? [23:29] [clears throat] [23:32] Okay, that was not seconded. Is there a [23:36] another uh recommendation? Please [23:40] move option two. [23:43] >> I got to support our planner here. [23:48] Option two is the recommended motion by [23:50] the planner. [23:52] Thank you. Is there a seconder for that [23:54] one? [23:57] Thank you. It's been seconded. [24:00] Councelor Puerto Rica. Is there any [24:03] other comments on this? Then I will call [24:07] the question. Um, [24:10] all in favor of the recommended motion [24:16] against. [24:18] Thank you. That was a 3 to2 vote. It [24:20] carries. [24:22] Um, thank you very much. Thank you, Miss [24:25] McCay, for coming in. Um, we appreciate [24:28] it. It was a very difficult issue to [24:30] deal with. [24:32] All right, we will move on to [24:35] development variance permit. Um DVP [24:40] 265460197th [24:44] Street. [24:46] Um Miss Dwong, do you have this one? [24:50] >> Yes. And I do have a presentation for [24:52] this one which I will [24:52] >> Thank you. [24:53] >> try my best to share. [24:59] [clears throat] [25:01] >> All right. Are you seeing the [25:02] presentation on the screen? [25:04] >> Yes, we are. Thank you. [25:06] >> Perfect. So, I'll go ahead and get [25:07] started. Um, so yes, this is uh this [25:10] item relates to file number DVP 2605. [25:14] Uh, this relates to a property located [25:16] at 460197th [25:18] Street. So, this is actually the [25:20] development that's known as Mojave [25:22] Estates. Uh, the OCP designation that [25:24] applies to this property is medium [25:26] density residential and the zoning that [25:27] applies is medium density residential [25:29] one sight specific. The property is [25:32] approximately 1.41 hectares in size. Um, [25:35] and this application actually speaks to [25:39] phases 2, three, and four specifically [25:41] of the Mojave State Estates development. [25:44] Phase one is actually already complete [25:46] and is technically a separate parcel [25:48] currently. Um, and it includes 12 town [25:51] houses. [25:54] So, um, I'll just give a bit of a [25:57] background since there's been quite a [25:58] bit of permit history as council may [26:00] recall with respect to this particular [26:01] property. So, this starts back in 2022 [26:04] when a multif family residential [26:06] development permit uh number 21-12 was [26:09] issued for a multif family residential [26:12] development at the property. Then in [26:14] 2024, building permits were issued uh [26:16] for three 4unit townhouse buildings as [26:20] well as uh civil works and two retaining [26:22] walls at the property. Now, in January [26:25] 2026, a new medium d or multif family [26:29] residential development permit [26:30] application was received in order to [26:32] revise the site layout and landscaping [26:34] plans uh due to changes that were [26:36] required uh to be made by the developer [26:38] to the internal access roadway. [26:41] Following that, in February 2026, a [26:43] phase strata develop a plan declaration [26:46] for a form P was approved by the [26:48] approving officer in order to allow the [26:50] development to be completed over four [26:52] phases, which kind of explains why the [26:54] completed phase is its own parcel [26:56] currently. Um once the phases start to [26:59] get completed, they'll become [27:00] amalgamated um into the last phase until [27:04] it's just one property at the end [27:06] essentially. Uh so most recently in [27:09] March 2026, uh two building permit [27:11] applications were received by the town, [27:13] each of which were proposing to [27:15] construct a 4unit townhouse building, so [27:17] eight units in total. [27:20] So as council may recall, uh this [27:22] property and development have been [27:23] before council actually twice since [27:25] 2024. Specifically, council had adopted [27:28] zoning amendment bylaw number 1395.02 2 [27:31] in 2024 and zoning amendment bylaw [27:33] number 1395.12 [27:35] just last month. Uh both of these [27:37] collectively provided sight specific [27:39] provisions for the property in order to [27:40] allow for secondary suites within duplex [27:42] or townhouse dwelling units and to allow [27:45] for the construction of one duplex at [27:47] the property. These amendments and the [27:49] permitting background uh that was just [27:51] detailed in the last slide um kind of [27:53] just highlight the extensive work that's [27:55] been done in the planning and permitting [27:57] of this particular development. [28:02] So as I mentioned this development is to [28:04] be completed in a phased manner with [28:06] four phases total. Um at this time it is [28:09] understood that the development of the [28:10] property is well underway uh with the [28:13] access road and servicing which was [28:15] within phase one uh being completed as [28:18] well as those 12 townhouse units that I [28:20] mentioned uh within phase one being [28:21] complete. Uh phase 2 is currently in [28:25] progress and its completion will see [28:27] that eight townhouse units be [28:28] constructed and the completion of this [28:30] phase is contingent on the subject [28:32] variance request uh in order to proceed [28:34] as currently proposed. [28:38] So specifically the townhouse units [28:40] within phase 2 comprise uh garages which [28:43] in undertaking a zoning compliance [28:45] assessment can only accommodate one [28:47] parking space to the minimum dimensions [28:49] that are set out in the zoning bylaw. [28:51] Now in total there um it is proposed [28:54] that eight parking spaces be provided [28:56] for the eight dwelling units. So one for [28:58] each dwelling unit. While no building [29:01] permits have yet been received for the [29:02] dwelling units within phases three and [29:04] four, it is understood that they would [29:06] each contain at least a single car [29:08] garage. And as it relates to zoning [29:10] bylaw compliance, um it is noted that [29:13] zoning bylaw number 1395 uh 2024 uh [29:17] requires the provision of 1.5 off [29:19] streetet vehicle parking spaces per [29:21] dwelling unit specifically for town [29:23] houses. So this would equate to actually [29:26] a total of 12 parking spaces being [29:28] required for the eight townhouse units [29:30] in phase 2 and 42 parking spaces being [29:34] required for the 28 townhouse units in [29:36] phases three and four. Accordingly, [29:40] the applicant has requested to reduce [29:42] the off- streetet parking requirements [29:44] from 1.5 spaces per townhouse dwelling [29:47] unit to one. And it should be noted um [29:49] that the request encompasses the [29:51] remainder of the townhouse uh units that [29:54] are proposed within the overarching [29:55] development. So, this actually includes [29:57] 36 townhouse units uh in total within [30:00] phases 2, three, and four. Phase one, as [30:03] I mentioned, is already built out and is [30:04] not included in this request. [30:08] So with respect to off- streetet vehicle [30:11] parking, it is required to be provided [30:13] as a means of ensuring that there is [30:14] adequate on-site parking to support the [30:16] planned use of a property um and that [30:19] public spaces such as street parking are [30:22] not supporting private uses. And this [30:24] ultimately acts then to mitigate [30:25] conflicts that might result from [30:27] inadequate site parking provided. Now [30:30] with this in mind again we expect that [30:32] property owners provide the parking [30:33] necessary for use on the property is [30:35] intended to be carried out on. [30:38] With respect to building stratas uh so [30:40] that includes apartments, duplexes and [30:42] town houses uh that typically provide [30:45] these typically provide parking within [30:47] either common property. So that's shared [30:49] between property owners or limited [30:51] common property which is designated to [30:53] specific property owners. So some [30:55] examples that we typically see with [30:56] respect to parking provided for building [30:58] stratas um these include parkades, [31:01] surface level parking areas or where you [31:04] might have a duplex or townhouse that [31:06] has a garage or a driveway um parking [31:08] can be provided within those garages or [31:10] driveways as limited common property. [31:15] It is important to note that of course [31:17] while the requirements surrounding the [31:19] provision of off- streetet parking serve [31:20] an important function when it comes to [31:22] conflict prevention and ensuring that [31:24] properties are actually able to [31:25] accommodate the uses that they're [31:26] intended to um support. The imposition [31:29] of overly ownorous parking requirements [31:32] can hinder development by essentially [31:33] limiting the overall site design and [31:35] layout as well as buildable area on a [31:38] property. Um, so this sentiment was [31:41] highlighted in the provincial policy [31:42] manual and site standards document which [31:44] local governments were required to [31:46] consider in the adoption of zoning [31:48] bylaws that relate to the delivery of [31:49] small-scale multi-unit housing. Uh, [31:52] specifically, the province has indicated [31:54] that on-site parking requirements uh can [31:56] often have the greatest influence on the [31:58] viability of small-scale multi-unit [32:00] housing forms, especially when you're [32:01] considering the small lot sizes that are [32:03] found in urban and suburban areas. With [32:06] that in mind, the province uh has [32:08] encouraged local governments to minimize [32:10] parking, particularly in areas where uh [32:13] transit options are available. And I do [32:16] want to point out that while this [32:17] property was not within a restricted [32:18] zone at the time in which small scale [32:20] multi-unit housing requirements were [32:21] included in the local government act, um [32:23] this general principle seemed to be [32:25] relevant to multif family residential [32:27] developments as well. [32:31] So in this particular case, it is [32:32] understood that the property is located [32:34] approximately 250 meters from a bus stop [32:37] uh for line 41. Um and this is located [32:40] along 89th Street between 97th Street [32:43] and Primrose Lane. Uh so that's seen to [32:45] provide an alternate uh transportation [32:47] option for residents within that [32:49] development as it gets built out. As [32:51] such, we do see that this is this has [32:53] potential to mitigate or reduce [32:55] potential negative impacts of a parking [32:57] reduction at this particular property. [33:01] Additionally, um it is noted um that the [33:04] development of this property is greatly [33:06] limited. Um and that's largely because [33:08] of the previous requirements pertaining [33:10] to the way in which the road alignment [33:12] was to be designed and requirements for [33:14] servicing to be installed. Um, I've [33:17] previously mentioned this in our [33:18] discussion regarding amendment bylaw [33:21] number 1395.12 earlier this year, but as [33:24] part of the 2024 building permit [33:26] process, the de the developer had uh [33:29] previously entered into a servicing [33:30] agreement with the town, which had [33:32] required that they undertake [33:34] construction of the on and off-site [33:35] works in accordance with approved civil [33:37] drawings. So, the works that were [33:39] completed on site included individual [33:41] service connections that were based on [33:42] the location of the dwelling units as [33:45] they were proposed. And with that in [33:46] mind, any revisions to the site layout [33:48] and building envelopes would likely [33:49] require um a fairly lengthy [33:52] administrative uh and financially [33:54] burdensome processes. [clears throat] [33:59] And I did want to just highlight um kind [34:01] of just the sight specific context here. [34:03] Um, as you can see, I've circled uh the [34:06] location of those town houses as they're [34:08] to be constructed within phase two. Um, [34:11] they are located kind of right up [34:13] against the access road, which is seen [34:17] to limit how uh their building envelopes [34:19] can be altered due to the um higher [34:22] elevation of the road and the wall um [34:26] that would be right behind these [34:27] properties. [34:31] So on the other hand, we do recognize [34:33] that um council had considered parking [34:36] reductions already um during the time in [34:38] which the zoning bylaw update project [34:40] had taken place. And at that time, off- [34:42] streetet parking requirements that were [34:44] applicable to townhouse units had been [34:46] reduced from 1.75 spaces per townhouse [34:49] dwelling unit to 1.5 [34:51] uh spaces per dwelling unit. [34:53] Additionally, and as we've highlighted [34:55] previously, the parking requirements [34:56] that were adopted in uh the current [34:58] version of the zoning bylaw generally [34:59] reflect uh the rural environment that [35:02] the town is located within. Uh [35:04] specifically, there is generally a [35:05] greater reliance on private vehicles to [35:07] get around and there's a tendency to use [35:09] larger vehicles as well. [35:13] That said, we do also note that the [35:15] zoning bylaw requires 1.5 parking spaces [35:18] per apartments and uh townhouse dwelling [35:21] units, but actually only requires one [35:22] parking space per single detached [35:24] dwelling and duplex dwelling unit. Uh [35:27] and in fact, the proposed duplex units [35:30] within phase three of this same [35:31] development would actually only require [35:33] one parking space to be provided per [35:34] unit, which effectively sets a different [35:36] parking standard despite being within [35:38] the same overarching development, which [35:40] is largely similar in form. Um now, [35:44] while greater parking requirements would [35:45] generally accommodate visitor parking, [35:47] um and the variation in the number of [35:49] cars per dwelling, it is noted that the [35:51] development does propose uh five visitor [35:54] stalls within phase one of the [35:55] development. [35:58] And lastly, it should be noted that in [36:00] response to the referral of this [36:02] application on relevant internal [36:03] departments, um the fire department had [36:05] expressed concerns with respect to the [36:07] proposed development uh specifically [36:09] that uh there was the potential for [36:12] vehicles to encroach into the internal [36:14] roadway given the length of the [36:16] individual driveways uh being fairly [36:18] short and the potential impact then on [36:20] congestion and emergency access. Um, but [36:23] I do want to highlight that this [36:24] variance request does not include a [36:26] variance uh for in tandem parking and [36:30] therefore the issuance of this variance [36:31] as proposed would not expressly permit [36:33] vehicles to park in tandem on uh these [36:36] individual lots. So with this in mind uh [36:39] we are requesting council's direction [36:41] with respect to this uh particular DVP [36:43] application. Uh for the reasons [36:45] previously listed, we are recommending [36:47] approval. Um, but council does always [36:50] have the option to deny the application [36:52] as well. Thank you. [36:55] >> U, thank you very much, Miss Dwong. This [36:58] is confusing because we have had um this particular um um application come [37:05] back several times for variances. Um I [37:09] know that it says in your report that [37:11] there are five visitor stalls for phase [37:15] one. Does that mean that there will be [37:18] um visitor stalls as well, the same [37:21] number for phases 2, three, and four? [37:26] Uh at this time, the developer hasn't [37:28] indicated whether there would be [37:29] additional visitor parking spaces within [37:32] the uh future phases of this [37:33] development. [37:36] >> That would be interesting to know. And [37:39] my concern is cuz I drive by this road [37:41] all the time on my way down to my house, [37:44] there is one road in and it's not really [37:50] visible from the road from the highway. [37:52] So you sort of you have to go in and [37:55] then go down as shown in the in in the [37:58] drawing. Um and obviously just one road [38:03] back out um for vehicles. I'm wondering [38:08] on the property, are there any other [38:11] exits to either walk off of the property [38:17] um or do you have to go come back up the [38:20] road to the highway in order to walk [38:22] along and go down to the to the bus [38:25] stop, which is not a 20 minute every 20 [38:29] minute bus stop. It um it goes a couple [38:32] of times a day, I think, and it sort of [38:34] depends. Um, so it's not something that [38:37] you could count on to get back and forth [38:40] um to school or work or or or anything, [38:44] I don't think. And my other concern is [38:47] that if these all of these um um condos [38:51] down here have an accessory suite in the [38:54] basement then, which we allowed back [38:57] then, then there's a need for obviously [39:00] more vehicle parking. I assume one in [39:04] the garage and one on the on the the [39:06] apron in front. Is that correct? Do you [39:09] So, can you answer that question? Is [39:10] there any exit off of the property other [39:14] than going up the road to the highway? [39:18] >> Uh, for that first question, I would [39:19] have to refer back to the development [39:21] permit plans um to see if there is any [39:23] pedestrian access points and pathways. [39:26] Um, so I'm not sure off the top of my [39:28] head for that one. Uh but with respect [39:30] to the secondary suite question, even [39:32] though it is permitted by zoning, um [39:34] they would still have to prove out the [39:36] provision of adequate parking for those [39:38] to be actually permitted through the [39:40] building permit process. So if there's [39:42] not enough space on their individual [39:44] like limited common property areas to [39:46] provide for a secondary suite parking, [39:48] they cannot get a secondary suite. [39:50] >> Okay. [39:51] >> Thank you. Anybody else? Go ahead. [39:53] Councelor Kanger, [39:54] >> the road going in and out, is that would [39:56] that become a public road in the future [39:58] or is that kind of private? [40:02] >> That would be a private uh road. [40:04] >> So, if there's cars parked in front of [40:06] houses and the fire department can't get [40:09] by, what do you suppose would happen? [40:17] » I'm not sure if I can answer that [40:18] question in its entirety. Generally, [40:20] when it comes to things like shared [40:23] common property strata roads, the [40:25] stratas themselves would be responsible [40:27] for ensuring um that they're being used [40:30] appropriately. [40:36] » Who's next? [40:38] >> Councelor Puerto Rica. [40:39] >> Thank you, Bishop. Um Mr. Wong. Um last [40:42] time, um the developer came to council [40:45] with regards to secondary suites. um [40:48] they were, if I could be wrong here, but [40:50] I believe they had said that they had [40:52] four off streetet sites per property or [40:54] per unit and as we're seeing that [40:57] clearly is not the case anymore. Um but [40:59] obviously the justified decision for [41:01] allowing secondary suites in there. Um [41:05] so is there that much of a significant [41:06] change over the course? My understanding [41:08] is right through from phase one to the [41:09] end of phases that they were able to [41:12] support for offstream sites per unit. [41:18] I'm unclear as to how much the parking [41:21] arrangements would have uh changed over [41:24] the course of the years. I understand [41:26] that phase one would have included [41:27] secondary suites. This current phase [41:29] does not actually include any secondary [41:30] suites within the townhouse units. So [41:32] those wouldn't have to be accommodated [41:33] in the same way. Um so [41:38] and phase three and four have not been [41:40] applied for yet. So that would have to [41:43] be considered. Um, so it's only in phase [41:46] one that they've asked for a secondary [41:48] suite. Okay, fair enough. I thank Thank [41:51] you. Um, it's still kind of confusing. [41:54] Anybody else want to go ahead, counselor [41:56] Bennett? [41:57] >> I just like to move option number one. [42:02] » Is there a seconder for that one? [42:08] » You have one more qu. [42:10] >> Is there a seconder? You'll second it. [42:12] Okay, then you have a question. [42:17] » Um, thank you again for you, Mr. Wong. [42:20] Just clarification. Um, and I'm just [42:22] trying to find the drawing here and it [42:23] probably is different. [42:25] Um, in one of the renderings here where [42:28] it shows the depth of the stalls at [42:32] just find that page here [42:36] be different for Shannon. [42:39] >> The different phases are different. [42:41] drawing view and [42:45] where it says driveway parking and it [42:47] shows a depth of 2.7 m and a width of [42:50] 5.7. Is that correct? [42:55] » And you're referring to the proposed off [42:57] street parking plan, correct? [42:59] >> Uh this is Yeah. So it's referencing DV [43:02] 606 of of the actual development permit. [43:07] >> Yes. So those are the measurements that [43:08] the developer would have provided. But I [43:10] do want to be clear that this [43:13] application does not request the [43:15] allowance for in tandem parking. So you [43:19] it wouldn't actually be able to provide [43:21] the in tandem parking within that [43:23] driveway. [43:26] >> Okay. [43:31] And go ahead, councelor Chong. And [43:34] then with some rough calculations with [43:36] page six of six, if you were to extend [43:38] the 2.7 to the edge of lane, it would be [43:41] approximately only 5 m [43:44] roughly if I'm assuming everything is to [43:46] scale. Um, which is far below our [43:51] requirements regardless. [43:53] But uh it seems as council may be in a [43:57] bit of a pickle with this variance [44:00] seeing as how the previous variance was [44:02] denied and they're along the same [44:04] spirit. [44:06] >> I see it as a different [44:08] >> Oh, it's it's [44:09] >> a different issue, but never mind. Go [44:11] ahead. [44:11] >> Zoned RS1, which does allow for a [44:14] secondary suite if parking requirements [44:17] and all the other requirements um are [44:19] fulfilled as well. Um, [44:22] this one is is a challenge mainly [44:25] because to I guess triple check, there [44:29] are no known stipulations for additional [44:33] visitor parking stalls uh in the current [44:37] plans. [44:38] Mong, [44:41] >> that's correct. outside of phase one [44:43] where they're providing visitor parking. [44:45] Um it has not been um we've not been [44:50] informed whether there was going to be [44:51] visitor parking in the uh remaining [44:53] phases, [44:56] » but we're working on phase two right [44:59] now. Am I correct? So they've obviously [45:01] got the okay to do that and there has [45:04] been nothing said about visitor parking [45:06] in phase two when as when the [45:08] development permit was given. [45:12] Correct. [45:17] » Tricky, isn't it? [45:22] [sighs] [45:24] Reduce off streetet parking requirements [45:26] for townhouse units. So, it's I know [45:30] there is and it's been seconded. So, [45:33] it's to reduce off-street vehicle [45:35] parking requirements for townhouse [45:38] units. [45:39] Does that mean all of them? [45:44] So, we've got some in there right now [45:46] and the second phase is being worked on, [45:48] but three and four are not. [45:52] [sighs] [45:54] I don't know. [45:57] All right. Are we We don't seem to have [46:00] any other questions. So, I'm going to um [46:04] to call the question, which is um the [46:07] recommended motion that the reduce the [46:10] off- streetet vehicle parking limits be [46:13] approved. All in favor? [46:21] Okay, that has not been approved. Um [46:24] that was a 3 to2 vote again and um so my [46:28] assumption is that the uh the owner of [46:31] the property will need to come back and [46:33] have a look at that again. Is that [46:35] correct, Miss Dwang? [46:39] » I may look to Miss Coulson on this item [46:44] in terms of process. [46:49] » Yeah, I'm I'm sorry. I'm not prepared [46:51] for that question. And the one thing I [46:53] will say is that um this property has [46:56] been uh disadvantaged in its options [46:59] going forward because of that [47:00] requirement that was u made at the [47:02] outset to pre-ervice all the lots. So [47:05] the underground utility is all in place. [47:08] Making changes at this point is very [47:10] difficult for the developer. [47:14] >> Um I yes I read that I get that as well. [47:17] I think that there's sounds to me like [47:20] there's a couple of other concerns in [47:22] here as well off streetet parking which [47:24] has not been addressed for something and [47:27] so I'd hate to see us say well let's [47:29] bring it down um and then we discover [47:33] that um there is no off- streetet [47:34] parking and there's one road in and out [47:37] so I think it's not an easy thing to um [47:40] to adopt [47:42] all right thank you we have did you have [47:46] a question go ahead [47:47] So, procedurally, if option one has [47:51] if that motion has been struck down, um [47:55] does a motion need to be voted on or or [47:58] moved in order to move forward with this [48:01] case or what happens now? [48:04] >> If the developer can bring an alternate [48:06] plan forward for council's [48:08] consideration, uh we don't need to do [48:10] anything further with this. [48:11] >> Thank you. [48:14] >> Okay. Thank you. We will now move on to [48:18] the um Miss Mrs. Keith [48:21] the proposed fire department budget. [48:33] I have a short presentation for the [48:36] proposed budget um for you. Uh so [48:39] annually we bring forward the budget [48:41] earlier on in the year uh given that [48:43] it's um a shared service between [48:45] ourselves uh the Indian band and the [48:48] rural fire protection district. Just a [48:51] little background here um the 2027 to [48:53] 2031 fire department forecast is built [48:56] from the 2026 base budget and applies [49:00] category specific inflation assumptions [49:02] only. These inflation factors are [49:05] applied to the operating revenues and [49:06] expenses. The forecast also incorporates [49:09] planning for capital projects, reserve [49:11] transfers, grant funding, and borrowing [49:13] which are identified in the capital [49:15] plan. [49:18] Revisiting the um the comment made [49:20] regarding the shared service. There we [49:23] go. Um the fire department provides fire [49:26] protection to the town of Aoyus, the [49:28] Asus Indian Band and the ASOS fire um [49:32] rural fire protection district. Under [49:34] the current fire protection agreements, [49:35] cost sharing is based on the 2026 [49:37] assessment values as follows. [49:40] We have the town of Aoyus at 59.4%. [49:44] The ASOS Indian man sits at 19.3 and the [49:47] Assaurus rural fire protection district [49:49] at 21.3. [49:55] The slide here just talks basically [49:56] about the revenue and the funding [49:58] forecasts. uh compares throughout 2026 [50:01] base throughout 2031. Uh for 2027, we [50:05] show total revenues at 2.3 million, [50:08] which is up 251,000 or 11% compound with [50:11] the 2026 base budget. Please keep in [50:15] mind this isn't an 11.8% increase. That [50:18] includes the capital funding which will [50:20] be a transfer from reserves. And you can [50:22] see that's up significantly from last [50:24] year. Everything else is based purely on [50:27] inflation. [50:30] The expense forecast is listed here and [50:32] it shows a comparison between the 2026 [50:35] base all the way through to 2031 and [50:37] highlighting the larger expense items [50:40] which we have our wages and benefits, [50:42] our debt charges, and the reserve [50:44] contribution. Again, the reserve [50:46] contribution just shows what would be [50:47] brought out of our reserves to help fund [50:49] the capital plan. [50:54] into the capital plan timeline. We've [50:55] identified uh projects as follows. We [50:58] show in 2027 the marine rescue craft [51:01] aerial apparatus as well as a command [51:03] truck. Uh 2028 we have paving [51:07] turnarounds the radio and replacement uh [51:11] sorry radio replacement. My good have my [51:13] glasses on. It's a little narrow [gasps] [51:15] here. Uh 2029 we have fire engine [51:18] replacement which is the uh the larger [51:20] expenditure we have over the 5-year plan [51:22] projection. um 20 the next year we have [51:25] 2030. We have the uh car 193 rescue uh [51:29] replacement as well with nothing planned [51:32] at this point for 2031. [51:37] Reserve forecast shows what we uh [51:39] proposed to contribute to the reserves [51:41] and again showing what we're taking out [51:43] of reserves to help uh fund those [51:45] projects. Um you can see the big dip [51:47] there in 2029 which is uh with regards [51:50] to the larger fire truck replacement. [51:58] Total revenues and expenses both [51:59] increased by approximately 251. Again as [52:02] in the previous slide uh this 11.8% is [52:05] not an actual 11.8% increase but just [52:08] showing how we are going to fund uh [52:11] capital through our reserves. [52:14] Our [52:17] budget drivers and considerations are same as every every year. Um wages [52:22] and benefits our primary operating [52:25] driver for um our annual costs 3.5%. We [52:30] have debt charges which remain uh fixed [52:33] from year to year from MFA. Uh we have [52:36] our reserve contribution which has [52:38] increases steadily to help fund our [52:40] capital and equipment replacements. Our [52:42] capital plan uh planning is based on um [52:45] what we can afford uh year after year [52:47] through our reserves and any type of [52:49] grants we can we can uh receive and in [52:52] final review inflation assumptions are [52:55] used uh cap capital estimates at this [52:57] point grants and reserve funding will be [52:59] reviewed before adoption. Adoption for [53:02] this budget would occur um as it when [53:04] it's amalgamated with our five-year plan [53:06] which will be brought forward at the end [53:07] of the year. [53:11] Uh before council, we have the option to [53:13] approve uh and proceed with the proposed [53:16] fire department five-year plan or [53:18] request change. [53:22] » Thank you. [53:23] very much. Um this is a [53:25] [clears throat] different way of having [53:26] it presented that one than we have. So [53:28] thank you. This um just it was [53:30] interesting to look through and and uh [53:33] and see the way that you've presented [53:34] it. I appreciate it. Um, is there [53:38] anybody who has any questions or [53:41] concerns of Mrs. Ke? Go ahead. [53:45] Uh, sounds like some pretty big numbers. [53:48] Just in layman's term about how much [53:50] would it cost the public in a tax [53:52] increase from 26 to 27. [53:56] >> Currently, we're not showing any type of [53:58] tax increase. We're just showing the [53:59] inflationary um just the inflation [54:01] projections for the next five years. And [54:04] that's how we would fund the capital [54:05] plan as well as the operating. [54:08] >> So it kind of shows 2.8. Have I read it [54:10] correct? [54:10] >> Correct. [54:12] >> Okay. Thank you. [54:15] >> Anybody else have any other questions, [54:17] concerns? Is there anybody who would [54:20] like to go ahead councelor Bennett [54:23] >> after after this is done and it's sent [54:25] to the So Indian Band as well as [54:28] regional district for approval. Right. [54:32] Normally what we do is for review we [54:34] would take it to um our rural friends [54:36] and we would have a small presentation [54:37] for them through the the fireh hall as [54:39] well as we present it to the sorry man [54:42] with the option for them to also join [54:44] and to hear the presentation. [54:48] » Councelor Chong, [54:49] >> thank you. Um so the fire engine [54:51] replacement um budget for 2029 [54:56] it's uh 1.5 million. Is that today's [54:58] estimates or is that 2029 estimates for [55:01] costing? [55:04] >> Yeah. Um through the through the mayor [55:06] to councelor Chong those are estimates based on the current apparatus [55:10] that we have in our fleet. So the most [55:12] recent apparatus that we purchased uh as [55:14] well as inflation as estimated or given [55:17] to us as an estimate through uh [55:20] distributors and manufacturers through [55:22] sales folks. So that 1.5 million is a [55:25] very good uh I don't want to say guess [55:28] but it's a very good estimate at what we [55:30] will be looking at spending to replace [55:32] our most recent purchase. [55:37] And then just for for clarification, [55:40] when we do support uh BC Wildfire with [55:44] efforts in in wildfire mitigation, um [55:48] there is, for lack of a better term, [55:51] compensation. Um whereabouts does that [55:54] with that fit in in terms of the uh the [55:57] budget and the revenue? [56:00] >> We do show that and that's in the first [56:02] part under recoveries. So, you'll see [56:04] our third line on the more detailed [56:07] version of the five-year plan forecast. [56:09] There's other revenue, fire department [56:11] recoveries, and that's whenever we um [56:15] visit a scene if there's an event, as [56:17] well as any type of support we provide [56:20] for for wildfire would go into that [56:21] category. [56:24] You're welcome. [56:26] Okay. Is there somebody who would like [56:28] to make a motion here? [56:34] Everybody speak up at once here. [56:36] [laughter] [56:37] Go ahead. [56:38] >> I move option one [56:41] >> that we approve the proposed fire [56:44] department budget. Is are you seconding [56:46] that? Are there any other questions, [56:49] concerns? I will call a question. All in [56:52] favor? [56:54] Thank you very much, Mrs. Keith. That [56:56] passed. [56:58] All right. Next is Mr. Davis, who I'm [57:03] assuming is Oh, you're going to do it [57:06] for [laughter] Thanks, Sarah. Um, this [57:09] is the resort municipality initiative [57:11] amendment. Go ahead, please. [57:13] >> Yeah. So, I'm bringing forward this [57:15] report. Um, as you all know, um, as a [57:19] little bit of an executive summary, [57:21] we're bringing forward a change to the [57:22] 2025 through 2027 resort development [57:25] strategy. uh we have a three-year [57:27] strategy in place and in that time we [57:31] had a uh a budget item there of for a [57:34] flag replacement which was for $10,000. [57:37] Um in further investigation uh in the [57:39] background we found that the town [57:41] received funding uh a funding request. [57:44] Oh, I'm sorry. Going back to the the [57:46] actual flag replacement. So it includes [57:49] this flag under further uh review. the [57:51] flag cost got to be um exorbitant with [57:54] that it wasn't our property and after [57:56] further review the actual post to the [57:59] flag was going to cost a lot more uh to [58:01] repair it to make to stabilize a large [58:03] flag. So this project hasn't really been [58:06] able to go forward just given it is cost [58:08] prohibitive. In the meantime, we did [58:10] receive a funding request for $8,000 for [58:13] fire and ice festival organization from [58:15] organizers to help offset the cost of an [58:17] outdoor concert to Gyro Park to be held [58:20] on the Friday evening of November 27th, [58:22] 28th, and 29th. The event organizing [58:26] committee includes representatives from [58:27] Spirit Ridge, Watermark Resort, Asoyas [58:30] Art Council, the town of Aoyas, the [58:31] Asoyus Museum, and the Asoyas Farmer [58:33] Market, and Music in the Park. and the [58:36] Asus Arts Council will serve as the [58:38] league organizer for the funding [58:39] application. [58:41] So, we are just requesting we are able [58:43] to move that $10,000 funding for the [58:45] flag replacement to support this [58:48] festival uh through our current [58:50] development strategy and uh we have [58:52] already checked in with the RMI [58:54] community and uh they have no problem [58:56] with us changing changing gears on this [58:58] one project. [59:00] >> Thank you very much. Thank you for [59:02] looking into that. Um, anybody have any [59:06] questions? Any concerns? [59:10] » And it's been seconded by councelor [59:12] Chong. All in favor? [59:15] Thank you very much. [59:18] Okay. Next is the uh Mrs. Coulson, the [59:22] Asuous airport management agreement [59:24] term. [59:25] >> Thank you, your worship. Uh this is this [59:27] is the final step in establishing an [59:29] agreement between the town and the [59:31] Isoyas airport development society or [59:33] ODS uh to manage airport operations. Uh [59:37] council heard uh from the former CEO in [59:40] October 2025 when council approved [59:42] entering into a one-year agreement for [59:44] the management of the airport with ODS. [59:46] U the execution of the uh agreement was [59:49] postponed while ODS uh secured some [59:52] documents that were required for the [59:54] agreement. Um, so, uh, now that we're at [59:57] the point a year later that we are [1:00:00] wishing to execute the agreement, ODS is [1:00:02] asking if they can have a 2-year rather [1:00:04] than a one-year term. This will help [1:00:06] them establish the services uh, more [1:00:09] securely and uh, importantly, it g it [1:00:13] places them well when they apply for a [1:00:14] grant. They have a term long enough to [1:00:17] be able to apply for the grant, [1:00:18] hopefully get the grant, and complete [1:00:20] the work that's grant funded. So, it is [1:00:23] recommended that we approve um the [1:00:26] two-year term for the agreement. [1:00:29] >> Can I just ask a question? So, um it [1:00:32] would be once we okay this or whatever [1:00:35] we Okay, is this starting date is that [1:00:38] date and it goes for two week two years [1:00:40] after that. Thank you. Just wanted to [1:00:42] check. Go ahead. [1:00:44] >> I'm just going to move option one. [1:00:47] >> Is there a seconder? Councelor King. [1:00:51] Okay. Go ahead. [1:00:52] >> Does it go back to 25 26 27 or we go 26 [1:00:56] 27 28? [1:00:58] >> Uh it would be two years from the time [1:00:59] we signed the agreements. [1:01:01] >> Okay. So like moving forward now two [1:01:03] more. Yeah. Thank you. [1:01:05] >> Okay. Is there any other concerns about [1:01:07] this? Um call question. All in favor? [1:01:12] >> Thank you. That's carried. [1:01:15] >> Um next water conservation plan update [1:01:20] report. [1:01:21] Um, Mrs. Coulson, thank you. [1:01:23] >> Got my name on it. Um, but we're pleased [1:01:25] to have our engineer, Steve Underwood [1:01:27] from True Consulting with us today. And, [1:01:30] um, Mr. Underwood is going to present [1:01:33] council with a water conservation plan [1:01:35] update. [1:01:37] >> Thank you. Please go ahead, Steve. [1:01:49] » Yeah. So, Um, last fall we prepared an [1:01:52] update to the water conservation plan. [1:01:55] Um, it's been in a draft form for too [1:01:59] long and for so now we finally got it [1:02:01] here today to uh present to council [1:02:04] hopefully um have it endorsed. Having an [1:02:07] endor a council endorsed water [1:02:09] conservation plan is usually a [1:02:11] requirement of grant funding [1:02:13] applications. Um new requirements are [1:02:16] also that these uh conservation plans [1:02:19] contain actual targets like values that [1:02:22] are measurable and that there's a method [1:02:24] in which we um propose to report our [1:02:27] compliance with them and or you know [1:02:29] achieving our targets. So this new plan [1:02:33] um while your last plan did have a [1:02:34] target, we didn't really check in on it [1:02:38] um very regularly or at all. Um and and [1:02:42] so this plan actually gives you targets [1:02:45] for the next for every 5 years for for [1:02:48] moving forward for the next foreseeable [1:02:50] future. [1:02:53] The other big thing that this plan's [1:02:54] going to do for you is inform the sizing [1:02:57] of your water treatment plant project. [1:03:00] Uh right now your water treatment plant [1:03:02] is proposed to be a $51 million water [1:03:07] treatment plant. That's without the [1:03:08] intake. $65 million a width in intake, [1:03:11] but the actual plant facility itself is [1:03:13] 51 million and its capacity is 24.7 [1:03:17] megaliters per day. [1:03:20] What we're proposing in this water [1:03:22] conservation plan is that we reduce that [1:03:25] number from 24 to 17 through [1:03:29] conservation. [1:03:31] And really the uh 54 or 51 million [1:03:34] scales with with that. So that's like a [1:03:36] 28% reduction in what in the size of the [1:03:39] plant and it corresponds generally not [1:03:43] exactly but to a 28% reduction in the [1:03:46] cost of the plant. Um and really when we [1:03:50] look at this this is MDD so that's [1:03:51] maximum day demand. That is the plant [1:03:54] has to be sized to be able to meet our [1:03:56] maximum day demand every um day in the [1:03:59] summer. Um, our current demand this year [1:04:04] has peaked out at 14 MLDD. So, we're currently well under that number, [1:04:09] but we're under some pretty serious [1:04:11] restrictions. Since our new restrictions [1:04:13] came in, we've actually dropped it down [1:04:14] to 12 or 11 since August 1st. So, we're well under the numbers already [1:04:21] with the measures that we put in place [1:04:22] that we're proposing. [1:04:25] But we're also proposing that as [1:04:27] population grows that we continue to [1:04:29] reduce our per capita demand. [1:04:33] Right now um our 5year trailing average [1:04:38] day demand so add is 1,044 [1:04:42] liters per capita per day. Um we we've [1:04:46] chosen that as a metric for our targets [1:04:50] mainly because most other jurisdictions [1:04:53] report that as well. like we can go into [1:04:55] everyone else's annual water reports and [1:04:57] find out what their um annual average um [1:05:01] daily demand is per capita. Um there's [1:05:04] Canadian averages published, there's BC [1:05:06] averages, there's lower mainland like [1:05:08] the Canadian average is 320 liters per [1:05:11] capita per day add. We're at,044. [1:05:16] But our MDD is what's really important [1:05:18] to us. Um for the last 20 years it's [1:05:21] almost exactly at 2.4 44 multiplier for [1:05:25] our ADD to MDD [1:05:27] and it's been it's been that way every [1:05:29] year. So we by targeting a reduction in [1:05:32] ADD will see a a corresponding reduction [1:05:36] in MDD and and MDD is actually what [1:05:39] drives um the sizing of our plant. So [1:05:42] managing MDD is most important to us but [1:05:46] all the targets I tell you in here are [1:05:48] actually add targets. Moving forward, we [1:05:51] could come up with some goals to try and [1:05:53] reduce that multiplier of 2.44. Um, but [1:05:56] that that would achieve the same thing [1:05:57] as trying to make our treatment plant [1:05:59] smaller. [1:06:01] Another note is that, you know, this [1:06:03] plan targets, you know, water treatment [1:06:06] plant size in the 17 range and our wells [1:06:10] can provide 17.2. So, our it's kind of [1:06:14] within the range of our current ability [1:06:15] to supply water as well. [1:06:20] Within the water conservation plan, um [1:06:23] there's kind of like three different [1:06:26] options that were analyzed for what we [1:06:28] think growth could be and and what our [1:06:32] um demand reduction could be. This graph [1:06:34] is is of the recommended option, which [1:06:37] is to assume that growth is going to be [1:06:39] what the average growth has been in the [1:06:40] Okonogan for the last 20 years, which is [1:06:42] 1.3%. [1:06:44] Um there's lots of other studies that [1:06:45] have been done that use higher growth [1:06:47] factors, but what we're trying to say is [1:06:49] here's a realistic one. Like let's plan [1:06:51] on a on actual numbers, not these two [1:06:54] and three and 4% growth because they compound annually. And so it's a [1:06:59] 1.3% [1:07:00] growth um coupled with a 1.7% [1:07:05] annual reduction in ADD. So what we're [1:07:09] saying is every year people need to save [1:07:12] 1.7% of their water uh from the last [1:07:15] year and our demand will slowly drop [1:07:19] kind of as this graph shows. Uh that's I [1:07:22] guess the laser pointer there's a middle [1:07:24] line there where you see an immediate [1:07:25] drop of like 20% and then it goes flat. [1:07:28] That's actually more likely what's going [1:07:30] to happen as we start reading our [1:07:31] meters. We're probably going to actually [1:07:32] see a significant drop. will go below [1:07:34] our current goals and we can report that we're below our goals and then we [1:07:39] don't have to pull any other levers on [1:07:41] conservation [1:07:43] immediately. We just have to keep our [1:07:45] eyes on our goals and know that you know [1:07:47] we're well as we reapproach our uh [1:07:50] future goals that we might have to pull [1:07:51] other levers to to achieve them. [1:07:59] This graph shows it on the MDD um chart. [1:08:03] I'm going to flip to it because I'm [1:08:05] having troubles reading those numbers. [1:08:06] But uh you can see that uh our current [1:08:10] MDD has has fluctuated you know previous [1:08:13] to 2026 [1:08:15] somewhere between the high 14s and you [1:08:19] know 17 or 18. Um and that's our [1:08:22] historic MDD. [1:08:24] it has trended down u even as we've [1:08:28] grown our the trend line has been [1:08:30] slightly down so things have been [1:08:32] working uh we have been doing public [1:08:34] education we have metered our major [1:08:36] users we have done a lot of things over [1:08:38] the years um moving forward we're going [1:08:42] to see a a larger reduction with our new [1:08:45] metering and and we now have really [1:08:49] clear data on what's happening with our [1:08:52] water we we know, frankly, who's using [1:08:55] water every day of the week because we [1:08:57] can we can record that if we want and we [1:08:59] know who's complying with our irrigation [1:09:01] restrictions and how many people aren't. [1:09:04] Um we know um generally where all the [1:09:08] water is going. um except [1:09:12] when we look at you know how much we're [1:09:14] reading and how much um how much we're [1:09:17] pumping there is maybe between two and [1:09:20] three megaliters a day that we haven't [1:09:22] accounted for yet in our metering [1:09:24] program. So that is something that it's [1:09:26] another lever we can pull. we can try [1:09:28] and look for it and and see what we can [1:09:31] do to to explain that water, whether [1:09:34] it's leakage or whether it's being used [1:09:36] on unmetered services that may be town [1:09:40] um properties that we hadn't uh or parks [1:09:42] that we haven't metered yet. Um and so [1:09:46] that is something that we can look at. [1:09:48] But as we as we achieve these goals, the demand we're projecting the demand [1:09:54] to actually drop over the next 20 years [1:09:57] down into the 14 range and it may even [1:09:59] be lower, like we may even get down to [1:10:01] 12. Um and and then there'll be a limit [1:10:05] where we our residents can't necessarily [1:10:08] conserve more. Um there there won't be [1:10:11] as it won't be as easy to dial back the [1:10:14] lawn irrigation or change out fixtures [1:10:16] or whatever. and and then the demand [1:10:18] will start to increase as population [1:10:20] goes up because these graphs show us [1:10:23] going down till we hit that target which [1:10:25] is in the water conservation plan of six [1:10:27] an add of 600 L per capita per day and [1:10:31] then once we get there we don't show any [1:10:33] additional uh conservation past that so [1:10:36] it does creep up and so by 2080 [1:10:40] the year 2080 if we use the you know the [1:10:42] 1.3% growth model we hit a treatment [1:10:46] plant design of 17.4 [1:10:49] um which is many years out like planning [1:10:52] for a size of that is very reasonable [1:10:55] and there will be growth obviously to [1:10:58] trigger that 1.3% growth there'll be [1:11:02] dcc's and stuff collected in that time [1:11:04] that will pay for these plant [1:11:05] expansions. So what we're proposing here [1:11:08] is if we can adopt these targets that we [1:11:11] can plan this plant for 50 years knowing [1:11:15] that uh we only have to um build it to a [1:11:18] 17 capacity. [1:11:22] If the growth was 2% [1:11:24] um you can see that it does go up to [1:11:27] that 24 number which is the green line [1:11:30] on this chart by uh by the year 2080. Um [1:11:34] the original idea behind the 2.4 or 24 [1:11:38] megal liters a day plant sizing was no [1:11:40] conservation. So like the the reason [1:11:43] that number was chosen was assuming that [1:11:45] we weren't capable of conserving [1:11:47] anymore. But what we're now saying is we [1:11:50] have to conserve. We have to drive this [1:11:52] down to try and reduce the cost of this [1:11:54] flat to make things affordable. [1:12:00] So, our recommendations um out of this [1:12:03] report um is that council endorse the [1:12:07] [snorts] report and its recommendation [1:12:09] to target um demand reduction in five [1:12:13] year the five-year targets down to 600 L [1:12:16] per capita ADD. [1:12:19] Um we also recommend that you maintain [1:12:23] your current [1:12:24] um metered rate structure. If you have a [1:12:26] metered rate structure, we want to [1:12:29] recommend that you um you know [1:12:31] transition your users to it and start [1:12:33] charging volutrically based on [1:12:35] consumption per your current uh rate [1:12:38] structure. [1:12:40] Um we have noticed lots of major water [1:12:43] users and it sounds like um staff have [1:12:46] already been investigating them. We can [1:12:49] like I said we can read the data. We've [1:12:51] been True has been reading your meter [1:12:52] data daily. We've been tracking it daily [1:12:55] by address to get an idea of of you know [1:12:58] where and how our water is using and [1:12:59] there is some major users out in normal [1:13:03] neighborhoods. Um and so public work [1:13:06] should visit them. Uh some of them are [1:13:08] consuming 30 cubic meters a night. Like [1:13:12] that's 30,000 liters in in one day. Um [1:13:15] so we do need to figure out where that [1:13:17] water is going. Could be the meters [1:13:19] installed wrong. Like it doesn't mean [1:13:20] they're actually doing it. uh we need to [1:13:22] understand some of these anomalies and [1:13:24] um and get to the bottom of them because [1:13:28] um basically your top 100 users are [1:13:31] using 25% of your water according to the [1:13:33] data and so we need to get on those [1:13:37] um [1:13:40] as we move forward. I don't think we'll [1:13:42] have to do much more than at the [1:13:44] beginning than just start billing by [1:13:46] metered rates. But there the re the [1:13:49] report does recommend other levers you [1:13:52] can pull by like giving rebates for [1:13:54] irrigation controllers um you know [1:13:57] different targeted rebate programs. We [1:14:00] wouldn't propose to put anything in next [1:14:01] year's budget or likely the year after's [1:14:03] budget for any programs like that. That [1:14:05] would be something that that staff could [1:14:07] bring forward at a future date if we're [1:14:09] trying to get to a goal and we just [1:14:11] haven't been able to get there that we [1:14:13] look at we analyze our data where our [1:14:16] water is going and then try and choose [1:14:18] programs that might uh be able to reduce [1:14:20] those numbers down. But the most [1:14:22] important recommendation here is that we [1:14:25] report our progress annually. We're [1:14:28] proposing to add a section to the at [1:14:30] least the water annual water report that [1:14:34] just is conservation where we revisit [1:14:36] these targets. We check that we're um [1:14:39] working towards them because if we're [1:14:42] not our plant will not if and we build a [1:14:44] plant down to 17 uh our plant won't be [1:14:47] large enough to meet our growth [1:14:48] projections. So we will either have to [1:14:51] start um budgeting for a plant expansion [1:14:54] or start reducing our demand. Um, so [1:14:57] constantly looking back at these targets [1:15:00] and where our progress is to them is the [1:15:02] best thing that we can do and take them [1:15:04] seriously. Once we've built a plant [1:15:06] that's that this size, we will have to [1:15:09] make sure we achieve this. [1:15:14] » That concludes my report. [1:15:16] >> Thank you, Steve. Um that was that was [1:15:19] quite interesting to read the whole [1:15:20] report and see where we can what we have [1:15:23] done and what we can do and we don't [1:15:25] know what we can do until we have the [1:15:27] information and that's why water [1:15:29] metering is so important because we do [1:15:31] get that a lot more information now did [1:15:34] that did they go through the same [1:15:37] concerns when this was done in Oliver [1:15:40] when they did it a while back where same [1:15:42] size community sort mostly although we [1:15:44] get a lot more visitors I think than [1:15:46] they do that. [1:15:47] >> Yeah. So Oliver saw a 40% reduction in [1:15:52] water demand almost immediately with the [1:15:55] installation of meters. Oliver at the [1:15:57] same time had um their two largest wells [1:16:00] become contaminated with uranium. and [1:16:04] Oliver was able to simply turn them off [1:16:06] and was able to supply water to their [1:16:09] customers for many years with their two [1:16:12] largest sources offline because of their [1:16:14] metering that came in in '07. [1:16:16] >> Wow. [1:16:17] >> And they've kept it down. They've done a [1:16:18] good job. They have had to add one new [1:16:21] source since then to replace one of the [1:16:23] two that have come down, but they are in [1:16:25] a a really good supply situation. The [1:16:28] other thing Oliver was able to do was [1:16:31] defer a sewage treatment plant upgrade [1:16:35] by 40 years with this. Again, the same [1:16:38] reduction in water demand created a [1:16:41] corresponding reduction in sewer demand [1:16:44] and and made their current plant size [1:16:48] reach, you know, 40 years beyond where [1:16:51] it thought we thought it was going to be [1:16:52] able to go. [1:16:55] That's good to hear because um when when [1:16:58] we always hear bad news and what's going [1:17:01] wrong, it's nice to know that we there [1:17:03] are things we can do to um to make this [1:17:06] work well. Good. Thank you, Councelor [1:17:08] King. [1:17:08] >> Yeah. Thank you, Madam. I have two or [1:17:10] three questions. One would be I think [1:17:12] you should report every 6 months instead [1:17:14] of a year because I think a year would [1:17:16] be past what we might need to know. And [1:17:19] I just want a clarity. You said maybe a [1:17:21] 100 people consume 25% of the water. Who [1:17:25] goes out and talks to them? I just [1:17:26] wanted clarity on that. [1:17:31] » Mark, do you have the answer to who's [1:17:33] going? [1:17:34] >> Yeah, we we've had people from our [1:17:35] waterworks division go out as they have [1:17:37] time. Uh starting with the top users [1:17:40] that we can't explain where the water is [1:17:41] going. They're they're just working [1:17:43] through them kind of one address at a [1:17:44] time. But also if they choose not to cut [1:17:47] back, they just will pay a lot more. [1:17:50] >> That will be the end result. Yes. But in [1:17:53] the interim, they're ruling out, as Mr. [1:17:55] Underwood said, the possibility of a [1:17:57] malfunction in the meter. And if they [1:17:59] talk to them and say, "Yes, we are using [1:18:01] 30,000 LERs a night." Then we know [1:18:04] there's no malfunction. It's their [1:18:05] choice. [1:18:06] >> I guess one last question. Can you [1:18:08] explain to me the difference between a a [1:18:11] portable water treatment plant and a [1:18:14] portable W water filter system? [1:18:17] >> I would say there's probably no [1:18:19] difference. Like it I think that's just [1:18:21] a terminology question, but a port a [1:18:24] portable water treatment plant would [1:18:26] just be something that's likely been [1:18:28] containerized that we you could pick up [1:18:30] and move. Um they're common in the [1:18:33] mining camps up in the north. You would [1:18:35] kind of order one from somewhere. The [1:18:37] size of them aren't usually at the scale [1:18:39] that we're talking here. We're not like [1:18:42] uh when we talk 17 megaliters a day or [1:18:44] 25 megaliters a day, you don't usually [1:18:46] see a portable one that's that size, [1:18:52] » councelor Chong. [1:18:54] >> Thank you. [clears throat] [1:18:56] Not going to try to hog the mic here, [1:18:57] but um with the per capita calculation [1:19:02] is the the population that's used for [1:19:05] the denominator is that the 55 56 [1:19:08] population that's reported by census. [1:19:11] >> Yeah. Um so it's it's plus the rural [1:19:15] area. So it's it's so it's more like a [1:19:18] 6,000 and something denominator. And I [1:19:21] acknowledge it's not necessarily fair uh [1:19:24] because of the tourist influx here. And [1:19:26] so I I think we always have to keep that [1:19:28] in mind that when I say your neighboring [1:19:31] community has a per capita demand of [1:19:33] 500, which some of your neighbors do, [1:19:35] and you're at a thousand, um you're also talking about the water [1:19:42] consumption that comes from um your [1:19:44] tourist population. So your residents [1:19:46] are being punished by saying you know [1:19:49] their demand is it the tourist demand is [1:19:51] on to your 6,000 residents. [1:19:54] Then to get higher resolution data [1:19:57] there's we can differentiate the meter [1:20:01] data based on the size of the meter. So [1:20:06] most residences are I forgot the the [1:20:08] width but we can just parse data from [1:20:10] them and but also see what stratas or [1:20:14] hotels and motel are also using right [1:20:16] >> yeah so one way easy way to sort our [1:20:18] data is by meter size so we can sort it [1:20:21] by 3/4 in andor 5/8 meters and see what [1:20:26] that generally represents our residents [1:20:28] so we can see what they're using and we [1:20:30] can totalize that easily and yes each [1:20:33] address so strata uh you know has a [1:20:35] number of units associated with it. So [1:20:37] we do know which ones are stratas and [1:20:39] how much the individual stratas are [1:20:41] using kind of per unit but we don't know [1:20:42] how much has been used in the individual [1:20:44] units because we just measure the strata [1:20:45] at the property line. So, since we've [1:20:49] been collecting data, excuse [1:20:50] [clears throat] me, since the uh the [1:20:52] water meters are installed, is there a [1:20:55] better way to kind of calculate what our [1:20:57] per capita usage is based on the meter [1:21:00] size, which mostly [1:21:03] pertains to residential and there's some [1:21:05] commercial in there as well, right? [1:21:09] >> Yeah. So, and it comes down to the [1:21:11] target like the target is just an add um [1:21:14] that is a simple calculation. Um but [1:21:17] yes, we could do high resolution [1:21:20] um data crunching for you to say what [1:21:22] our residents are actually using, but [1:21:25] the people we're benchmarking ourselves [1:21:27] against like the city of Pentictton [1:21:29] aren't doing that, right? So their [1:21:31] number I think last year was 585 liters [1:21:33] per capita per day um that they have a [1:21:37] similar tourist influx. Maybe not as but [1:21:41] we'd have to like see what the [1:21:42] comparison is but they've have managed [1:21:44] to get their number significantly lower [1:21:47] than you've managed to get your number [1:21:48] and and and the reason we've chosen that [1:21:50] add is is more just that benchmarking [1:21:52] between uh us and and like the Canadian [1:21:55] average which is 320. [1:22:01] » Um thank you water counselors. Any [1:22:04] concerns questions from you guys? Okay. [1:22:07] I've just wondered. Um, so what we're um [1:22:11] what the recommended motion is that we [1:22:14] adopt the 2025 water conservation plan [1:22:16] update um and direct staff to begin [1:22:20] researching the implementation of the [1:22:22] strategies incorporating the future capital and operational work [1:22:27] plans for the town of Isuyas. Is there [1:22:29] somebody [1:22:31] >> Thank you. seconded. It's been moved and [1:22:34] seconded. [1:22:35] Absolutely. Go ahead. [1:22:37] >> Thank you. [clears throat] Is there an [1:22:39] opportunity to do to obviously want to [1:22:42] start with education? Um is there a [1:22:45] possibility to do a quarterly like [1:22:48] billing mock cycle if we were to use our [1:22:50] current fee structure just to show the average household like this is what [1:22:56] it would cost [1:22:58] according to and this is how much you [1:23:00] you've used. Just so that it gives them [1:23:02] some context. [1:23:08] Yes, we we trying to figure out how to [1:23:10] word this properly. Um, so we do have [1:23:12] the water consumption and of course you [1:23:13] saw that we have implemented the portal [1:23:15] which allows uh our 360 portal allows [1:23:17] people and residents to sign up see [1:23:19] their cons their consumption in real [1:23:21] time. Um we any type of questions we do [1:23:24] get we have um put out kind of [1:23:26] communication through our um e-news and [1:23:29] website of what the rates currently are [1:23:32] today uh based on if it were metered and [1:23:35] given them kind of like a calculation [1:23:37] matrix like take your base plus your per cap you know your per per cubic [1:23:42] meter per the price and that's what your [1:23:45] bill would be. Um we have not been in a [1:23:48] position to do mock billing although [1:23:49] that had been discussed just given um we [1:23:53] are still haven't completed the whole [1:23:55] phase of installation of of meters. We [1:23:57] still have a few out there and we're [1:23:59] still working and troubleshooting [1:24:00] through a couple other issues with the [1:24:02] meters but um um yeah over overall we we [1:24:07] can highlight it I guess more on a [1:24:09] website more of a general this is a [1:24:11] formula to calculate it if that kind of [1:24:14] answers your question. [1:24:17] So, um I think one of the things on our [1:24:19] website when you go on right away is the [1:24:21] water advisory and there's quite a lot [1:24:23] of of information on it um right right [1:24:26] away that you can get. I think maybe we [1:24:29] need to do something similar to put on [1:24:32] the website uh about water conservation. [1:24:36] And I know it it I mean this is a big [1:24:38] report that we've got, but if we could [1:24:41] have something that would give a a two [1:24:44] or three pager on on what we're talking [1:24:48] about here, it's a lot to absorb. I [1:24:50] think that would be helpful and it's [1:24:51] something we could direct people who are [1:24:54] concerned to go and and read. [1:24:58] >> Yes. Go ahead. [1:24:58] >> Yes. And I think it would be important [1:25:00] to try to encourage more people to sign [1:25:02] up to my 360. I've been going on regular [1:25:05] and looking at it and it's quite [1:25:07] interesting. It's really simple to use. [1:25:09] You only really got to push a couple [1:25:11] buttons after you've logged on. So, you [1:25:13] can see your own consumption and I think [1:25:16] a lot of people be happy and maybe [1:25:17] there'll be a few people unhappy but it [1:25:19] is quite accurate on reading your own [1:25:22] meter. It's kind of exciting to do that. [1:25:24] >> We have launched um when we launched the [1:25:27] program, we did put out a various [1:25:29] different e-newses and on our Facebook [1:25:31] and on the website here's instructions [1:25:32] on how to do it. We we help people here [1:25:35] in the office. If they come to the front [1:25:36] desk, we'll help sign them up for it. Um [1:25:39] and then on this latest quarterly [1:25:42] billing, we did put a section right on [1:25:44] the bottom that we do encourage you to [1:25:46] see your, you know, to sign up so you [1:25:47] can see your daily consumption. [1:25:51] >> Question. [1:25:52] >> Thank you to you and through you [1:25:54] director Keith. Do we know roughly how [1:25:56] many we've had um register or subscribe [1:25:59] to that data? [1:26:00] >> I think we're up to over 200 now. [1:26:03] >> Thank you. Yeah. [1:26:05] >> Okay. So, we have had a mover and a [1:26:08] seconder on the recommended motion. Um I will call for the question. All in [1:26:14] favor? [1:26:16] Thank you. And that was unanimous. All [1:26:18] seven. Thank you very much. [1:26:30] Steve, for um [1:26:32] providing that for us. Next, we're going [1:26:35] on to bylaws. Uh zoning amendment um [1:26:38] bylaw. Um yeah, zoning bylaw amendment [1:26:42] for 28 Empire Street. Is that Miss Dwong [1:26:45] again? Good. Thank you, Miss Dwong. Go [1:26:47] ahead, please. [1:26:49] >> We'll do. And I do have a quick [1:26:51] presentation for this one. [1:26:54] Mhm. [clears throat] [1:26:56] >> And [1:26:57] see, [1:26:59] and is the slide coming up on your side? [1:27:02] >> Yes, we can see it. Thank you. [1:27:05] >> All right, perfect. So, uh just a quick [1:27:06] heads up on this one. I am presenting uh [1:27:09] the overview of this application, [1:27:11] although um I do have Colin Martin also [1:27:13] with me in the room, um who is the file [1:27:16] manager for this application, just in [1:27:17] case any questions come up at the end. [1:27:19] Um but with that, I'll just go ahead and [1:27:21] get started. [1:27:22] So, this is a zoning uh bylaw amendment [1:27:25] application for the property at 28 [1:27:27] Empire Street. The OCP designation that [1:27:30] applies to this property is industrial [1:27:32] and it has a corresponding zoning of [1:27:34] general industrial. The parcel is just [1:27:37] over 4,000 square meters in size and is [1:27:39] currently understood to contain an auto [1:27:42] body shop as well as an automotive [1:27:44] museum. [1:27:46] So the automotive museum is actually the [1:27:48] subject of this resoning application as [1:27:50] the applicant is proposing to operate an [1:27:52] indoor automotive tourist uh attraction [1:27:55] uh being the desert speed heritage [1:27:57] museum at the subject property. It is [1:27:59] understood that the museum is currently [1:28:01] operating. [1:28:03] the general industrial or I1 zone and [1:28:05] that applies to this property is [1:28:07] intended to support a variety of [1:28:08] industrial uses and that includes um [1:28:11] various uses um including but not [1:28:13] limited to construction supply center [1:28:15] manufacturing salvage operation service [1:28:18] industry establishment and vehicle sales [1:28:20] and rental. Now um museums um are [1:28:24] actually not permitted within the zone. [1:28:25] So despite being um currently in [1:28:28] operation, this is not an outright [1:28:29] permitted use within the I1 zone and [1:28:31] they're actually only permitted within [1:28:33] the administrative and institutional and [1:28:35] town center zones throughout the town. [1:28:39] As such, the applicant is requesting to [1:28:40] amend the zoning of the applica of the [1:28:42] property under the town's uh zoning [1:28:44] bylaw uh from general industrial to [1:28:47] general industrial site specific in [1:28:48] order to allow cultural facility as a [1:28:51] permitted principal use and specifically [1:28:53] that that be in the form of a museum. [1:28:57] Now, in considering this proposal, staff [1:28:59] do note that industrial lands within the [1:29:00] town are limited to those lands in the [1:29:03] uh Buenov Vista Industrial Park, which [1:29:05] is located at the northwest corner of [1:29:07] the town. expansion of these lands is [1:29:09] greatly limited by uh just its location [1:29:12] uh specifically jurisdictional [1:29:14] boundaries as it's located right at the [1:29:16] border of the town and electoral area A [1:29:18] of the RDOS. It's also bounded by [1:29:21] existing industrial and non-industrial [1:29:22] development as well as competing land [1:29:24] uses such as those lands that are [1:29:25] located to the south uh which are [1:29:28] designated under the OCP for [1:29:29] environmental conservation purposes. [1:29:33] >> [snorts] [1:29:33] >> Now, the OCP sets out intended use uh [1:29:36] the intended use of industrial lands as [1:29:38] being to support light and heavy [1:29:40] industrial uses and this is reflected in [1:29:42] the town's zoning bylaw by way of [1:29:44] permitted uses within the general [1:29:45] industrial zone. Now, general industrial [1:29:48] uses uh or non-industrial uses are those [1:29:51] which are typically not seen to be [1:29:52] compatible with industrial uses are not [1:29:54] permitted within this zone and would [1:29:56] otherwise require the discretionary [1:29:58] approval on a case-byase basis through a [1:30:00] reszoning process just like this one. [1:30:02] Now, in these instances, council can [1:30:03] assess whether a proposed use is [1:30:05] appropriate within the context of the [1:30:06] industrial designation and whether it's [1:30:09] an effective use of land uh in the [1:30:11] industrial area. [1:30:14] So, in this particular case, the request [1:30:16] is understood to allow an automotive [1:30:18] museum in addition to all other uses [1:30:20] which would normally be permitted within [1:30:21] the I1 zone. So in this regard, the [1:30:23] property owner would be maintaining [1:30:25] their ability to undertake all other [1:30:26] forms of industrial uses which are [1:30:28] currently permitted in the I1 zone even [1:30:30] if the reszoning is approved. [1:30:33] Additionally, the museum is focused on [1:30:34] automobiles and relates to an existing [1:30:36] principal auto body shop at the property [1:30:38] which would reduce the overall [1:30:40] likelihood that users would be affected [1:30:41] by any typical negative impacts of being [1:30:43] near industrial sites uh such as [1:30:45] nuisances like noise and air quality. As [1:30:48] such, we do see that the proposal is [1:30:50] generally seen to be compatible with the [1:30:52] existing industrial use of the property [1:30:54] and wouldn't be hindering its use for [1:30:56] industrial purposes into the future. [1:30:59] We do also recognize that as a resort [1:31:02] municipality, the town does face unique [1:31:04] challenges um with respect to how it can [1:31:07] balance year-round businesses with [1:31:08] tourism priorities. The OCP does contain [1:31:11] supportive policy which encourages the [1:31:13] expansion of the attractiveness of the [1:31:15] town year round and prioritizes [1:31:17] attracting new businesses. But it is [1:31:19] also recognized that of course uh there [1:31:21] is limited industrial land and the OCP [1:31:24] then supports um the infill and [1:31:26] redevelopment of underutilized [1:31:28] industrial uh properties. In response to [1:31:31] this, as the proposal is seen to provide [1:31:34] for an indoor year-round attraction, u [1:31:36] it does appear to be consistent with the [1:31:38] town's priority to support year-round [1:31:40] tourism and a year-round economy. [1:31:43] On the other hand, and as mentioned, [1:31:45] industrial lands within the town are [1:31:46] very limited, and there may be more [1:31:48] appropriate locations to site and [1:31:50] operate a museum. As mentioned, cultural [1:31:52] facilities are typically found within [1:31:54] the administrative and institutional [1:31:55] zone where they're permitted outright. [1:31:57] But these lands are also very limited [1:31:58] and are generally already occupied by [1:32:00] existing uses, which makes it quite [1:32:02] challenging to identify other suitable [1:32:04] administrative and institutional lands [1:32:06] for the proposed use. Uh that being said [1:32:08] though, the applicant may have [1:32:10] opportunities to identify town center [1:32:12] zone lands within the downtown core, [1:32:13] which could also permit uh cultural [1:32:16] facilities as well. [1:32:18] So, at this time, we are uh requesting [1:32:20] council's direction with respect to the [1:32:22] proposed bylaw amendment and further [1:32:24] reasons uh provided. We are um [1:32:26] recommending that the amendment bylaw be [1:32:28] read a first and second time and proceed [1:32:30] to public hearing on September 8th uh [1:32:32] 2026. Um should the reasonzoning be [1:32:35] successful if council supportive of it, [1:32:36] a change of use permit may be required. [1:32:38] Um and improvements may also be required [1:32:40] to satisfy BC building code [1:32:42] requirements. Thank you. [1:32:45] >> Thank you very much, Miss Dwang. I [1:32:47] appreciate that. Go ahead, Council. [1:32:49] >> Great presentation. Thank you very much. [1:32:51] I'll move option one [1:32:54] >> and it's been seconded [1:32:57] and yes, go ahead for a question. Yeah, [1:33:00] >> thank you. You too, Mr. Um, does the um [1:33:04] zoning by amendment does that uh change [1:33:06] the parking requirements for the [1:33:07] property? Would those stay the same? [1:33:12] Um it would the use itself is what [1:33:16] triggers the parking requirements. So [1:33:17] that's not altering parking requirements [1:33:19] at the site. Um cultural facilities have [1:33:21] their own parking requirements under the [1:33:23] zoning bylaw and those would need to be [1:33:24] met um in order for the use to take [1:33:26] place. [1:33:27] >> Thank you. [1:33:29] >> Okay. So, it's for uh it's the the [1:33:33] entire recommendation that that be read [1:33:36] a first and second time and that there [1:33:38] be a a scheduled um uh open public [1:33:41] meeting public hearing on September the [1:33:43] 8th and that staff give notice to the [1:33:46] public hearing in accordance with the [1:33:48] recommendations. That's what we're [1:33:49] voting on. All right. All in favor [1:33:52] against? No. Thank you very much. That [1:33:55] car [1:34:08] Sorry, we will now have um a chief [1:34:12] administrative officer report. This is [1:34:17] >> uh in community services, the park [1:34:19] benches and picnic tables have been [1:34:21] ordered for Metoark Park and [1:34:23] Playgrounds, which good news for lots of [1:34:25] people. and the outdoor uh fitness [1:34:27] equipment has been ordered as well. The [1:34:29] cactus kids day camp is slowly winding [1:34:32] down. The leaders have done a great job [1:34:33] in entertaining the kids despite not [1:34:35] being able to go outside due to the [1:34:37] smoke. And the last day of camp is on [1:34:39] August 21st. Fall program planning is [1:34:43] underway and staff are looking to put in [1:34:45] new programs in response to the program [1:34:47] survey that was online and many of our [1:34:50] residents responded to. At Sun Bowl, ice [1:34:53] times are filling up with both scheduled [1:34:55] hockey events and with private users. In [1:34:59] corporate services, the front counter [1:35:00] staff are fielding calls as Miss Keith [1:35:03] mentioned uh about setting up the My 360 [1:35:07] online water monitoring app. And uh as [1:35:11] we also mentioned, there is been about [1:35:13] 200 residents register for the free [1:35:15] service already. Bylaw officers are w [1:35:18] issuing watering tickets now and [1:35:20] following up on boats and sidus that [1:35:22] have been parked on the town's beaches. [1:35:25] Parking tickets were suspended during [1:35:27] the period of time of some fire evacuees [1:35:30] being in town. Um they were taking [1:35:32] refuge on our street. So we suspended [1:35:34] all parking tickets for the for that [1:35:36] period of time. [1:35:38] Uh preparations for the election are [1:35:40] well underway now with the development [1:35:41] of forms and the assembly of mail ballot [1:35:44] packages minus the ballot of course and [1:35:47] uh initial testing of the automated vote [1:35:49] counting machines. Uh I want to [1:35:51] highlight the fact that nominations for [1:35:53] candidacy uh in the upcoming election [1:35:56] will be formally accepted between the [1:35:59] statutory dates and times of September [1:36:01] 1st at 9:00 a.m. and September 11th at [1:36:04] 400 p.m. Anyone considering running in [1:36:07] the election must submit those forms to [1:36:10] the chief election officer Amy Robinson [1:36:12] or her designate between those times for [1:36:15] their names to appear on the ballot. [1:36:17] Also for those who may be considering [1:36:19] candid candidacies but wish to know more [1:36:22] uh please feel free to come into the [1:36:23] municipal office talk to the election [1:36:25] officers or to any of the current [1:36:27] elected officials whether it be in a [1:36:29] Soyas or another jurisdiction. We really [1:36:31] recommend firsttime candidates to have a [1:36:34] full understanding of what it's like to [1:36:35] be an elected official. Um, there's also [1:36:38] a number of great videos that were [1:36:40] produced by the province of BC on the [1:36:42] town's website under 2006 election and [1:36:45] information for candidates that walk [1:36:47] through all the aspects of being an [1:36:49] elected official. In the communications [1:36:51] area, uh, on Facebook, we now have 94 [1:36:55] followers and there have been 30 posts [1:36:58] since the last update and 35,000 page [1:37:01] views. uh websites had 28,000 views [1:37:04] since the last report and our parking [1:37:08] survey results are live and online on [1:37:11] that survey page. If anybody hasn't had [1:37:13] a look at them, we had over 600 [1:37:16] responses and lots and lots of great [1:37:19] feedback. [1:37:21] Uh the water conservation survey has [1:37:24] just closed, so those results will be up [1:37:26] shortly and there was over 200 responses [1:37:28] to that. In the planning and development [1:37:31] services, business licenses issued since [1:37:33] the last update are the Palmus Kitchen [1:37:36] and Bar at the Holiday Inn, Oracle Real [1:37:38] Realy, which is home occupation, LS [1:37:41] Sports and Entertainment for the Isoyas [1:37:43] Coyotes, and a numbered company uh [1:37:47] 2179639 [1:37:49] Alberta, which is a home occupation for [1:37:51] painting. Six residential building [1:37:54] permits were issued during the month of [1:37:55] July in the amount of $1,460,000. [1:38:00] Uh the building official has posted two [1:38:02] stop work orders on residential [1:38:04] properties that were either building or [1:38:06] renovating without permits. The planning [1:38:09] department also issued three preliminary [1:38:11] layout reviews uh for sub subdivision [1:38:14] applicants. So things are really ramping [1:38:16] up in the in the planning area. Finally, [1:38:18] for planning, we did get confirmation [1:38:20] from the ALC that they have received our [1:38:22] application for the block exclusion and [1:38:25] they have cautioned us that they are [1:38:26] facing staffing shortages. So, they're [1:38:29] um they anticipate there will be delays [1:38:31] in processing that for financial [1:38:34] services. Quarter 3 utilities billings [1:38:36] were issued on August 14th and the bills [1:38:39] will show water consumption for um for [1:38:43] clients information only. The town [1:38:46] continues to encourage residents to sign [1:38:48] up for my 360 in order to have that [1:38:50] real-time water consumption information [1:38:53] and uh they can go to either a soyc.ca [1:38:57] there's step-by-step instructions or [1:38:59] call the town office or come in for [1:39:01] assistance in signing up. 2027 budget [1:39:05] planning is underway with the fire [1:39:06] department and sunbo budgets coming [1:39:08] forward to council for the August and [1:39:10] September meetings respectively. fire [1:39:13] department. Over the first six months of [1:39:16] the year, Soy Fire Department responded [1:39:18] to 34% fewer calls for service than over [1:39:21] the same period of time last year. But [1:39:23] it's important to note that when [1:39:25] comparing July, just the one month of [1:39:28] July, 2026 to 25, the calls have [1:39:31] increased by 20%. So it's it's variable. [1:39:35] uh town the autonomous waste fire [1:39:37] department has been assisting [1:39:39] firefighting efforts throughout the [1:39:40] region from August 7th to the 16th. The [1:39:44] fire department worked alongside other [1:39:45] fire departments from across the [1:39:47] province in protecting the town of [1:39:48] Summerland. The fire department has also [1:39:51] provided standby coverage to the BC [1:39:53] Wildfire Service for the Southern [1:39:55] Okonogan for the past two weeks. This [1:39:57] week, the fire department anticipates [1:40:00] receiving a shipment of face coverings [1:40:02] from the Canadian Red Cross to assist [1:40:04] people in the community that are feeling [1:40:06] the impacts of the smoke. These [1:40:08] coverings will be distributed throughout [1:40:09] the community for both visitors and [1:40:11] residents free of charge. [1:40:14] Finally, in operational services, public [1:40:16] works department has received the [1:40:18] replacement fountain pump. We've noticed [1:40:20] our our down at Pioneer Walkway, the the [1:40:24] fountain is not working right now. Um we [1:40:27] will be installing the new pump in the [1:40:28] fall. Quail place capital works are [1:40:31] complete and phase one of the 89th [1:40:32] Street construction is uh paved and um [1:40:35] nearing completion. Uh director of [1:40:39] operations Tyler Madison Madson, I'm [1:40:42] sorry, has left his position with the town to take a position as CEO in [1:40:47] Liilowette. So we wish him all the best [1:40:49] in his new job. And we're very pleased [1:40:51] to have Deputy Director of Operational [1:40:54] Services, Jill Abney, acting as [1:40:56] director. [1:41:04] » Thank you, Risha. Thank you very much. [1:41:07] And thank you, Jill, for stepping in. [1:41:09] Appreciate it. Um, [1:41:11] >> did you have a question? Sure. [1:41:12] >> Just one question. Has the town received [1:41:14] any update if the musical right is [1:41:16] moving forward this Saturday or has it [1:41:18] been cancelled? [1:41:20] As far as I know, it's it's uh it's [1:41:22] still scheduled to [1:41:23] >> Okay. Thank you. [1:41:25] >> And it's Sunday, [1:41:26] >> not Saturday. [1:41:28] >> But [laughter] [1:41:30] [gasps] okay. Um can we go to council? [1:41:34] Oh, we need to receive the CEO report [1:41:37] for information, please. Thank you, [1:41:39] Councelor Puerto Rica. Councelor King. [1:41:40] All in favor? Thank you. Okay, councelor [1:41:44] King, you're next. Yeah, not too much to [1:41:46] report other than I guess people might [1:41:48] know my wife he ordered her back. So now [1:41:50] I become the chief cook and bottle [1:41:52] washer. [1:41:54] >> Do you make cookies too? [1:41:56] >> Yeah. [laughter] [1:41:59] » Good. Okay. Thank you, Councelor [1:42:01] Bennett. [1:42:03] >> I have nothing to report for this [1:42:05] meeting. Thank you, [1:42:08] >> Councelor Chong. [1:42:11] >> I have something to report. [1:42:12] >> Oh. [1:42:14] Uh oh. What did you win? [1:42:16] >> A so every year Assus and in Assus Golf [1:42:20] Club and Incom Golf Club play against [1:42:22] each other for the Ryder Cup and I'm [1:42:24] happy to announce that Assus has won two [1:42:27] years in a row. [gasps] [1:42:29] So just wanted to gloat a bit. So thank [1:42:32] you to all the staff from both Inkam [1:42:34] Golf Course and Assus Golf Club for all [1:42:37] the hard work they do. And uh also thank [1:42:40] you head pro Matt for the pity pick of [1:42:43] me for being on the team. [1:42:48] » Terrific. Thank you councelor Potter [1:42:50] Rica. [1:42:51] >> Uh worship no trophies this week but uh on July 29th attended yourself. Um [1:42:57] the um Suz Center had the official [1:43:01] ribbon cutting and unveiling of their [1:43:02] new accessible washroom project uh which [1:43:05] has added two uh fully wheelchair [1:43:06] accessible uh washroom stalls um to [1:43:10] their uh center. Uh a great addition [1:43:12] there obviously um as part of the [1:43:15] accessibility improvements have been [1:43:16] made over the last couple years uh to [1:43:18] the property uh allowing uh more [1:43:20] visitors um easier access to the [1:43:22] property. And aside from that, just some [1:43:24] meetings with I've had some recent [1:43:25] meetings with regards to the fire and [1:43:26] ice festival uh currently planned for uh [1:43:29] later this year. And that's my report. [1:43:33] >> Thank you. So um yeah, I have a couple [1:43:36] things. Um one, I was also at the Desert [1:43:39] Center um opening of the of the very [1:43:44] nice washrooms which used to be at 7710, [1:43:48] our property. uh and um it was well [1:43:52] attended and despite the fact there was [1:43:55] smoke um it was um there were quite a [1:43:58] few people there so appreciate being [1:44:00] invited to that. Um I've been on several [1:44:03] RDOS meetings, regional district [1:44:06] meetings. Um I do get updates [1:44:10] two or three times a day on fire issues [1:44:13] in the regional district and I know that [1:44:16] there that certainly that's available on [1:44:19] all the news media. So including um uh [1:44:23] updates from our fire chief as well on [1:44:26] not necessarily the ones uh close to [1:44:30] Summerland but mostly the ones across [1:44:32] the line that we're still dealing with. [1:44:34] them and we seem to have a few more. So, [1:44:37] that's been a lot. Um, recently um I [1:44:42] have also been on EMCR, that's emergency [1:44:45] management, climate readiness meetings [1:44:48] um uh probably every two weeks, [1:44:52] sometimes it's every week, just updates [1:44:55] on um the river forecast, the wildfires, [1:45:00] and how many um how many there are and [1:45:03] where they are. And that information is [1:45:05] pretty available to everybody too. But I [1:45:07] do attend those ones. Um the the meeting [1:45:11] that we had um here um we had an an [1:45:16] invitation from uh Walrus, the water uh [1:45:20] land and resource stewardship um [1:45:23] minister to um attend a meeting in [1:45:27] Assuyas and uh talk to um us about um [1:45:32] some of the big concerns that they that [1:45:35] they had were drought um and drought [1:45:38] preparation. [1:45:40] and response. Um and also um agriculture [1:45:45] was another one of their issues that [1:45:48] they wanted to talk about and also um [1:45:51] their uh department have also taken on [1:45:53] zebra kaga muscles. So they they know [1:45:57] that um that I have been involved with [1:46:00] that for many years with Okonogan Basin [1:46:03] Water Board and the Okonogan Basin Water [1:46:05] Board um three of them from uh attended [1:46:08] the meeting as well. So um uh Mrs. [1:46:12] Coulson very kindly put out some water [1:46:16] resource management briefing um notes [1:46:19] and I have some here for council um for [1:46:22] them to um to have a look at. um she was [1:46:26] here and her staff for um an hour and a [1:46:30] half or so and we had a good [1:46:32] conversation about about water issues [1:46:35] and what we're doing um in the town of [1:46:38] Asuyus to help things and of course [1:46:41] Okonogan Basin Water Board also um gave [1:46:44] the gave some information for that one. [1:46:47] Um I know that it was mentioned this [1:46:49] morning the [clears throat] Etsy BC [1:46:51] grant that um destination is Suya Scott. [1:46:56] Um the new grant application time is [1:46:59] September 1st to October the 8th 2026. [1:47:03] So that goes for everybody in the [1:47:05] Thompson Okonogan and the Columbia [1:47:08] Coupney region to apply for grants. I [1:47:11] can provide information on that, but [1:47:13] there's a lot of information online as [1:47:15] well. Of course, we've been dealing with [1:47:18] a lot of of um of water issues um not [1:47:22] only in the town, but u reducing our our [1:47:26] um water down to one day a week. It's I [1:47:30] think it's it's made quite a difference [1:47:33] to people to think, how am I going to do [1:47:36] this? Um because you can only water your [1:47:39] lawns. um once a week. But I do know [1:47:42] that um Sigree Kendrick, who is the [1:47:46] Okonogan Zeroscape Association [1:47:49] um executive director, has pointed out [1:47:52] that do handwatering [1:47:55] um with your plants because save those. [1:47:58] They if your lawn goes golden, that will [1:48:01] come back at some point. But um make [1:48:03] sure that you hand water. So, in the [1:48:05] morning, I've got my bucket and I'm out [1:48:08] watering my plants and my couple of [1:48:10] tomato plants. So, um we certainly [1:48:12] recommend that people take it seriously [1:48:15] and remember we had um suggested at the [1:48:19] last meeting that if anybody had any [1:48:22] good ideas on how to um save water or um [1:48:26] they should come up with it. So, a [1:48:28] friend of mine said to me, you know, [1:48:30] when I get in the shower in the morning, [1:48:33] I have a bucket in there because I'm not [1:48:36] ready to step into the shower until it's [1:48:38] warm enough to get into. So, I save that uh water in your in my bucket and I [1:48:45] then take it out after. And I thought, [1:48:47] "Wow, I hadn't thought of that one, but [1:48:49] that's a good one." I think that the [1:48:51] other thing is better uses of gray [1:48:54] water. And we we probably need to put [1:48:57] that into um into our thinking as well. [1:49:00] And having rain barrels and I know we've [1:49:03] had no rain, but um occasionally when we [1:49:06] do get um uh rain, it's quite easy to [1:49:10] collect um stuff in a rain barrel. So [1:49:12] those are all ideas that we need to come [1:49:15] up with. And um and the other thing that [1:49:18] I want to mention is the rolling barrage [1:49:22] which is a coast to coast ride [1:49:24] motorcyclists um they're come across [1:49:27] Canada. It's the 10th annual and they're [1:49:29] coming to combat uh PTSD and they're [1:49:33] coming through OSUS on Friday afternoon. [1:49:37] That's the 21st from 4:00 till 5:15 I [1:49:42] believe. and they're going to be at what [1:49:44] I call the husky um the co-op up beside [1:49:48] the visitors center and um they have [1:49:52] asked that anybody who would like to [1:49:54] come out and support them uh please do [1:49:57] so. So council, if I will certainly be [1:50:00] there, if any of you want to um to join [1:50:04] and come out and support these people, [1:50:06] there are then on their way to Princeton [1:50:09] and then to Vancouver. But um this is [1:50:12] being handled by um our fire chief uh [1:50:15] Chief Cook. And I'm just wondering if [1:50:17] you could give us a little bit more [1:50:19] information on this, please. [1:50:22] >> Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. Actually, you uh you touched on many of the uh the [1:50:26] main points uh with this ride coming [1:50:28] through town. Uh what I can add is that [1:50:31] it's estimated between 150 to 200 [1:50:33] motorcyclists will be entering town on [1:50:35] along Highway 3 from the east. Uh the [1:50:37] Soyuse Fire Department, uh we will have [1:50:40] apparatus on the east side of town to [1:50:41] welcome everyone in. And then we will [1:50:43] set up a table uh with an engine. um at [1:50:46] the uh co-op gas station uh we'll have [1:50:49] water, Gatorade, uh treats uh and things [1:50:52] of those nature or of that nature, [1:50:54] pardon me, for for the writers. Uh there [1:50:56] is an opportunity for council uh myself [1:50:59] even uh to meet with the ride organizers [1:51:02] uh Jim and Steve um who will who are [1:51:06] leading the uh leading the charge so to [1:51:07] speak across the country uh where we can [1:51:10] welcome them to the town and of course [1:51:12] uh that's where council uh is is [1:51:14] obviously more than welcome or be great [1:51:16] to have council there to to welcome the [1:51:18] group there. [1:51:20] >> Thank you. So, if anybody uh in the [1:51:22] community would like to come out and see [1:51:24] them, um please anybody who wishes to [1:51:27] please come and uh and stop in and say [1:51:30] hello to them. Um and certainly council, [1:51:34] you're um invited as well. So, that's on [1:51:37] Friday. So, I think that's all of the [1:51:40] issues that I have today. So I will um [1:51:45] move to the in camera portion of the [1:51:48] meeting and that pursuant to section 91 [1:51:51] of the community charter a part of the [1:51:53] council meeting may be closed to the [1:51:55] public if the subject matter being [1:51:57] considered relates to one or more of the [1:51:59] following. 91K negotiations and related [1:52:02] discussions respecting the proposed [1:52:05] provision of a municipal service that [1:52:07] are at their preliminary stages and that [1:52:10] in the view of the council could [1:52:12] reasonably be expected to harm the [1:52:14] interests of the municipality if they [1:52:16] were held in public. Could I have a [1:52:19] motion to go in camera? Thank you. [1:52:21] Councelor Puerto Rica. Councelor King. [1:52:23] All in favor?