[4:18] [snorts] [4:27] » Okay, there's 6:00. I call the [4:32] March the 19th, 2026 meeting of the Owen County Commissioners to order. Uh first [4:37] order of business, opening prayer. Would someone like to do the opening prayer? [4:42] Dave, you want to hit that? [4:46] Father, we thank you tonight, Lord, for all your blessings and all your [4:49] helpfulness. Father, we ask that you would bless this county, bless the [4:53] people in this county, and guide us in the right direction for the people in [4:56] this county. Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. [5:00] And now for the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [5:05] United States of America, >> [groaning] [5:07] » and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with [5:13] liberty and justice for all. Thank you. [5:20] Okay. Um for the public, if you haven't already [5:23] done so, please do sign in over at the table. [5:27] And then, uh Sheila, roll call. Sam [5:31] Allison, Ronnie Warner, Here. [5:34] Davis, Here. Okay. [5:41] Approval of minutes. So, we have before us the minutes for the March the 5th, [5:45] 2026 meeting. Um just need a [5:50] motion. Motion to approve minutes. [5:53] » And I will second that. All in favor? Aye. Aye. [5:58] Um >> [cough] [6:01] » claims. [6:04] This month's claims, uh payroll, $323,767.27. [6:14] Regular claims, $234,351.17. [6:20] Out-of-cycle claims, which would be your utilities and credit cards and our [6:24] Toshiba contract, is $54,742.20. [6:30] For a grand total of $612,860.64. [6:36] That's our claims. [6:41] Move to approve claims. And I will second that. All in favor? Aye. Aye. [6:48] All right. [6:57] L Financial Monthly Funds Report. Funds report in front of you [7:03] is varied. I went ahead and took it through the end of the month. We [7:06] received some things in. General fund is staying where it's 6,000,001. [7:12] Uh the others again pretty comparable to what we're doing. The highway is [7:16] bringing in the money between the 76-73. LIT is coming in in $107,000 [7:23] a month. Um we are going to need to relook at the [7:27] LIT and where we're at in balances. And currently, there's 2.6 million in there. [7:32] However, by the time you take this year's $855,000 [7:37] budget plus you added the 600,000 for the highway, we know we're going to have [7:41] to come back for additional appropriation for the radio project at [7:45] the council meeting coming up. So, we're going to have to keep an eye on that [7:49] cash balance and moving forward. And if you can only count on $107,000 a month [7:54] coming in, you might have to to break things down in payments. But, [8:00] the money will still be bringing revenue in. It's just might have to be spread [8:04] out. [8:07] All righty. Old business. Um Ellington Park. I just [8:12] spoke with Tony a little bit. I'm actually going to let Tony speak on [8:16] Ellington Park because he knows where we're at in the process of [8:20] separating the HOA and and that road. So, go ahead, Tony. Sure. [8:25] Uh I've got somebody at my office who is looking at it and has started the [8:27] process of getting that done. I need some additional information from [8:31] the county, and I've talked to folks just today, and we're in the process of [8:36] getting that. Once we get that, we should be able to turn the documents [8:39] around and hopefully get them out. And I need to know from the subdivision, you [8:44] know, we got to get unanimous, 100% support to do it. [8:48] Uh so, that'll be the next step. So, are We're moving it along. [8:52] Do they need to go ahead and start working on the 100% participation? It [8:56] wouldn't hurt at least to talk to people and make sure that that support is out [8:59] there. I'd hate to do this work and then it turns out that somebody doesn't want [9:02] to do it. >> today? [9:04] No. Okay. I will call her after the meeting cuz she called me earlier and [9:09] let her know that they need to go ahead and get working on the 100% [9:11] participation. >> Yeah, I I just want to make sure the [9:13] support is there before we start doing the work. Right. Okay. Good enough. [9:19] All right. Um [9:23] Dial project review. I think the only thing we have on that is [9:27] Did you bring something with you, Mr. Keith? [9:29] Okay. All this is is just some documents, an [9:34] information packet for all of you to look at. [9:36] » Turn that on, Tilden, and then state your name so so that everybody at home [9:41] can hear. [9:44] I think that's on, isn't it? It's red. Uh right there. This one? Yeah. Oh, [9:50] there we go. My name is Tilden Keith with Keith [9:53] Realty, and I was just bringing the information packets in regards to the [9:57] the ground that we was talking about earlier. [10:00] Everything's in here, but it's basically just information for you guys to take, [10:04] digest, look over as much as you want to. My contact information's on the [10:09] envelope. Any questions that that arise, I can answer any questions as far as [10:13] that goes. That's all it was, just bring you guys information. All right. Okay. [10:18] So, we'll take it under advisement. No need more emotion on this though. [10:26] I got Uh-huh, thank you. Thanks. [10:30] Okay. Um [10:35] The other old business, we're going I would make a motion to table [10:40] capital improvements. Yes. Uh all in favor? Aye. Aye. [10:47] Dave was second on that, by the way. [10:51] New business. [10:54] Um Tasha from probation. [10:57] Um If you could come up, same thing. If you [11:00] could turn that on, make sure they can hear you. State your name and then [11:04] Natasha Pointer. I just need approval for our Department [11:08] of Correction grant that we apply for every year um [11:12] for community corrections. Okay. So, it should have been in your [11:17] packet. Yeah. And uh I've read that over um [11:22] and I'm I'm comfortable with it. I'm comfortable with it. So, I'll move to I [11:26] think we approve the grant. I'll second. All right. All in favor? Aye. [11:30] Thank you. And I do need a letter signed. I had put Sam's name on it. Does [11:34] somebody mind marking his name out and signing it? [11:37] » Um Thank you. [11:39] Uh you will need to um [11:43] This is your Right. She needs to That's your budget. [11:46] » Mhm. But um [11:48] » [clears throat] [11:51] » Yeah. Yeah, there was Oh, I'm sorry. I was [11:55] She's got a signature sheet. I made three copies cuz I [11:58] » So, can Does she need all this or just the top sheet? You can keep all that. [12:02] Okay. Yeah. This is the letter. I made three copies of it cuz I didn't know how [12:05] many you guys needed, but I just need one signed back by someone [12:09] that shows that you approve it. It just So, just me sign it? Okay. All right. [12:13] Mark Sam's name out. Put a line through it. [12:18] I motion to um And it basically just said that you're approving our grant for [12:22] 2017 and that it's already been approved by our advisors. So. All right. So, [12:25] there's your signed copy. All right, thank you. [12:33] Thank you. Thank you. VFW Easter egg hunt. Would you like to [12:39] come forward? Just state your names and then we'll go [12:43] we'll go through this real quick. [12:49] Here we go. I'm Sharon Barger. I'm president of the [12:53] VFW Auxiliary here in Spencer. I'm Stephanie Arnett. I'm a member of the [12:58] auxiliary. Uh and what we're wanting to do, we used [13:03] to do this years ago. I don't know, maybe some of you might remember. We [13:08] used to have an annual Easter egg hunt on the square. [13:11] Uh when I got into being department, it got let down. [13:16] So, and then the 4-H fishing team took it over and did it fairgrounds. So, [13:21] we're wanting to start it again here for the Owen County community [13:26] uh to do a community event once a year if we possibly can. That's our goal. [13:31] All right. So, we have your special event form that's all filled out. [13:35] » Yes. Um I personally have no problem with this, [13:39] Dave, and I'd also like to waive the fee Thank you so much. [13:45] » event application. I think the the involvement in the community is well [13:49] worth what little bit of fee there is on it. [13:52] So, um [13:54] It's for ages 2 to 12 if you want to know that. Just so [13:59] um everybody and there'll be flyers out everywhere. We'll try to get it put at [14:03] Babs and you know, everywhere that we can so that people will know. [14:09] Yeah. Um we'll make sure it's on the [14:12] uh Yeah, we got a little bit of grounds work to do, but we're going to get that [14:15] taken care of before we get to that point. But, you know, I really [14:18] appreciate it. So, uh first will be I would like to make a [14:22] motion that we waive the fee for the special event. [14:24] » I'll second that. All right. All in favor? To approve? Aye. [14:28] And then to approve the special events application for the Easter egg hunt for [14:32] the VFW on the on the grounds here. I do have one question. Yes, ma'am. Do [14:39] we need to come back every year [clears throat] to get this approved or [14:42] can I just Um [14:45] Do I need >> Probably have to come back every year. [14:47] Okay. I That's what I needed to know. Thank you so much. [14:51] » No problem. Thank you. All right. So, I'll give you the sign [14:55] somewhere. [15:02] Back sheet. That's the waiver. [15:05] Thank you. Thank you. We need to get that waiver. He did. [15:12] Um AECOM contract. [15:17] So, uh [15:20] We've spoke with John Reeves and the AECOM contract is the contract [15:25] to cover the testing on the Patricksburg uh dump site [15:30] uh moving forward. We had uh a proposal pulled together. Uh [15:35] IDEM has added a testing component that we have to comply with [15:40] and currently that application [15:46] Where is it? Okay. [15:50] Option to that application or that testing [15:56] will be I wrote it down right here. Option one [16:01] or option two? Yeah, there's there's two options. Uh [16:05] the recommendation from Mr. Reeves and um [16:11] with regards to the IDEM is option two, which is 58,000. [16:17] They find it here. Give me the exact number. Here's option one. Yeah. [16:22] And there's option two, 58,676. [16:27] All right. And uh that is the option that I would make a motion that we [16:31] accept. I'll second. [16:35] All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay. [16:39] This needs to be signed by the sheriff's office and the health department, not [16:42] eight folks. Okay. [16:46] So, [16:49] All right. Um there was a waiver release on the [16:53] back of that too that we probably need to get to Yeah, that's what people do [16:56] anyway. Okay. All right. All right. AECOM, we [17:02] motioned and approved for 58 6 46 or 6 676. [17:13] All right. Moving on. Hm? [17:17] Are you sending them Who's sending them the signed copy? [17:22] the contract? [17:25] Are you sending it to him, John? I [17:28] I can. I mean Can you get it to him if we gives you the signed copy? Yes. Okay. [17:33] All right. We'll get it We'll get it signed tonight [17:36] and get it to him. [17:39] Okay. Highway Department. [17:44] Come on up, Chad. [17:48] So, really the only thing that we wanted to [17:52] do anything with tonight was the um the CCMG bid packets. [17:58] Uh We'd like to open them and then take [18:00] them under advisement. So, can we [18:04] open those tonight? See what our bids come back as. [18:22] First one is for E&B Paving [18:27] with an amount of 975,373 [18:31] and 80 cents. [18:37] » [snorts] [18:40] » Second one [18:43] is Milestone and Milestone Contracting. [19:05] » [snorts] [19:08] » Total of 988,243 [19:13] and 8 cents. [19:16] Okay. [19:20] Is there a recap on the roads that are on those [19:23] on that front sheet? Uh [19:28] Yes. Okay. I'd like to read that off just so everybody knows. [19:33] Okay. So, those two bids that we just opened [19:36] cover the following roads. [19:42] Um [19:47] Chad, come help me. Okay. Do this. It covers Got um [19:51] Looks [clears throat] like Gos Lane Yeah. [19:56] Um Fiddler Road [20:00] 231 to Fiddler It's It's Freedom Army Road in its entirety. Okay. Gross [20:05] Cemetery Lane Uh [20:09] Tower Road from 231 to Fiddler and Mitten Road from 246 to Newport. [20:15] Okay. I just wanted to get those so people [20:18] knew what we were talking about. Okay. We'll take these under advisement and [20:24] deal with them in a a later meeting. [20:30] HWC contract and road project bids HWC contract was sent to us. [20:42] Yes. Um I believe there's also the Owen County paving regulator for Little Flock [20:47] Road. What's that? Little Flock Road We're not doing Little Flock tonight. [20:50] We're going to table that one and we will open it at another meeting when we [20:53] got the the full commission here. So >> Thank you. We're just going to hang on [20:57] to it. All right. All right. [21:06] Excuse me. [21:13] Oh, you go ahead and open those? Okay. [21:16] All right. [21:22] So, we're going to go ahead and open the bids [21:25] for Little Flock. [21:31] First one is for P&B. That one is [21:38] $215,879. [21:53] The second one is for Milestone Contracting. [22:00] And that is for [22:16] $234,680.40. [22:23] Okay. Same thing. We'll take them under [22:26] advisement, but at least we know what they are and uh [22:30] Chad, correct me if I'm wrong. This is for the damage done during the it being [22:34] used as a bypass, right? Yeah, the INDOT's paying for it to be resurfaced [22:39] for the detour. All right, and that's Indian? [22:43] Yes. Okay. [22:46] All right. Like I said, we'll take those under [22:48] advisement and deal with those at the later meeting. [22:51] HWC contract and I have that contract was in our packets. [22:56] Um [23:00] I got it right here. Got it right there. [23:06] Um [23:11] I've um read through it at least a couple of times, [23:16] but I have slept since then. So, I would make a motion. Let's see. [23:27] Okay. [23:34] But, I would make a motion that we uh accept contract as written [23:38] for HWC uh for our bridge inspections for the [23:41] upcoming time frame. [23:44] Um first one to be done in November. I'll second. [23:49] And all in favor? Aye. Aye. All right. [23:54] Let me sign this one. I'll sign right here. [24:02] All right. [24:08] Radio project, we will motion to table until future meeting. [24:15] Second. All right. All in favor? Aye. Aye. [24:24] Department heads and elected officials [24:30] Department heads? Um And you did say that they've taken [24:35] care of you. You're good. [24:39] until the supervisor's office is ready. Um we did become fully staffed on [24:43] Monday. We hired our Good. Excellent. We have all positions filled and we still [24:49] have Okay. [24:52] Chad, you got anything? I need a couple more people. [24:57] We cannot keep going with 12 guys on the road. [25:00] Right now, it's either work on gravel roads [25:03] or work on asphalt. I can't do both at the same time. We don't have enough [25:06] help. Do you have positions uh posted? [25:12] No, we haven't posted anything. I didn't get the permission yet to [25:16] post it yet. I was waiting on the [25:20] all the time there, so Okay. [25:23] We'll table that for right now. Okay. Any discussion? We're going to have a [25:27] meeting next week anyway. We've got a specific meeting for highway that we're [25:31] going to do, so we'll deal with that one then. [25:34] » It's frustrating cuz I can't do both. I understand. [25:37] » the storms that we've had in with it I think I've said this to you once once [25:41] or twice. Right. [25:43] » [laughter] >> I think I've I've had this discussion [25:46] where you get a couple of people. Uh okay. We'll uh [25:50] We'll get that one on that meeting where we we're talking just about highway [25:52] department. Anybody else? [25:57] Department heads? Before we go to public comment, I do [26:01] want to say for our veterans out there and the VSOs, [26:05] we do have a van coming your way. Uh we purchased a brand new van. [26:10] Uh >> [snorts] [26:11] » it should be here in a couple weeks, what the gentleman told me. [26:15] So, it'll be nice. When we figure out when it's going to be here, we'll try to [26:18] let everybody know and see if we can get some veterans out there to [26:23] go meet with the van and meet with us and so on. Uh Sheila had a good idea, [26:27] too, and and I I think it's a really good idea, but when we go to brand the [26:32] to put Owen Owen County Veterans on it. Um [26:37] We need to get with the different branches of of the veterans here in [26:40] town. Uh you know, the different Army, Navy [26:45] But, if we could open that up maybe and make a contest out of it and have um [26:49] some local students maybe give make proposals of here's [26:54] what, you know, the uh [26:58] graphic could look like, something like that. [27:01] Or the veterans themselves. [27:04] Right. [27:10] Yeah. [27:12] I'd say it's the veterans' vehicle. Let the veterans do it. [27:16] What do you think? [27:20] I said, "Let's let the veterans do it. It's going to be their van." [27:25] Make Roger go out there and paint it with a paintbrush. [27:27] » [laughter] >> We'll give you We'll give you some [27:29] markers and some crayons. [27:34] How's your How's your freehand drawing, Roger? Is it pretty good? [27:41] It's honor guard's guard, everybody, handicap. Take you to Indian. It It's a [27:46] very nice van. From the drawings that I seen and everything and the VSO, he laid [27:51] it out. [27:54] You'll have earned [27:59] Right. [28:07] » [laughter] [28:20] » Well, you you got a new one coming. Brand new Couple weeks. [28:24] And the the numbers that you were talking about for people that need to be [28:28] in it was taken into account when we went to get this one, so you should be [28:31] covered. [28:37] Well, I think I think it's five seats in that now, if I remember correctly. It [28:41] had one ramp in the back to get in and out with a wheelchair and it's got the [28:45] lockdowns and the seats can actually be removed from the floor [28:50] then you know, if you need more room, so [28:59] But, we we appreciate any help we get. You're welcome. [29:04] Okay. Have I missed any agenda items [29:09] that you know of other than public comment? So, public comment. [29:13] Yes, sir. My name is John McKnight and I was here [29:17] last fall about Barley Road [29:20] out there. About what road? Barley Road Barley Road [29:24] Okay. How terrible the whole road is and [29:28] which Chad and his guys did fill some of the [29:32] holes and roll it, but you drive down that road and it's [29:37] absolutely falling apart. I mean, it's almost not even a road in [29:42] places anymore. And also at that same meeting last fall, [29:48] they were going to replace the Byerly Road sign [29:51] at 246 and Patrick's Road, [29:55] which has never been been put up. And then that [29:59] drain you were going to talk to the state [30:02] about fixing that drain. >> I turned that over to the INDOT and I [30:06] haven't heard anything back from them. The Byerly Road sign, I still don't have [30:10] the sign. I don't know We ordered signs last week. [30:16] I think I ordered some. I haven't gotten So, the Byerly Road sign's on its way? [30:21] Yes, it's just waiting on And INDOT's you've already turned [30:26] the ditch drainage and culvert pipe at 246 and Byerly Road is an INDOT pipe. [30:31] Okay. I can try to make contact with them again tomorrow, but [30:36] sometimes you don't hear anything back from them. [30:40] Okay. So, I heard that [30:42] the county got money from the state again for doing roads. [30:46] For CCMG roads, yes. So, is Byerly Road going to be on that? [30:53] No, it The ones we read off tonight are the ones that are on that on that. [30:58] Um So, is there a plan to keep fixing holes [31:01] on Byerly Road or I mean, this is pathetic. [31:05] Absolutely pathetic. If you watch an ambulance go down through there [31:09] and you wonder how the person on the other hand that's supposed to get picked [31:13] up is going to make it. [31:17] We'll get them out there with the with the patcher [31:20] fill them up. [31:25] I ain't been out on it in a while. It's rough. Is it? [31:32] So, we'll see if we can get some patching done out there and try to [31:34] smooth it out as much as we can. We'd like to fix them all, but [31:37] » Oh, I know. I know. Yeah. I know, believe me. [31:40] » [laughter] >> But I just wanted to commission I don't [31:44] know if any of you has been down Byerly Road all the way down there. [31:47] » Oh, he has cuz it's out in his district. >> it's it's a dirt field in places. [31:53] We have a lot of roads like it. There's a lot of people that's moved in [31:59] down that road. There's a lot of traffic on that road anymore. [32:05] We'll get out there and take a peek at it. [32:09] Any other public comment? Yes, sir. Yeah, [32:11] my name is Matt Anderson. You and I talked on the phone Yes. [32:17] You've got bigger issues than my issue, but [32:20] nonetheless, quality of life issue here regarding ordinances for dogs. Yes. [32:25] » And noise. I understand you're you're hoping to go through and revamp all [32:29] that. Mhm. I just really encourage you to do so. [32:33] Um I'm just facing a dog issue. Dogs [32:36] roaming half mile from home. The owners intentionally let them out [32:41] regardless of what the sheriff tells them to do. Court appearances. [32:45] No uh fines or anything, but just continue to be a nuisance. [32:51] Um the the noise issues with horns, [32:55] spinning tires, uh Lester Chapel, Rocky Hill Road, the [32:59] tire marks all of them down there. They're just racing up down tearing up [33:04] the road. Have you notified the sheriff on that? The sheriff has been out there [33:08] twice to talk to them in the last year. Okay. And they still do it. [33:12] Um But because of two weeks ago regarding [33:16] the dogs, and supposedly there's a a um [33:20] electronic fence going in, an invisible fence. [33:24] We will see. But I just encourage you to strengthen [33:27] the ordinances for the area. This is not only [33:31] We cannot be the only ones who complained about dogs in the last 30 [33:35] years. Um But there's just a problem family where [33:39] they don't care. So, there used to be something in place [33:43] to make them care. Right. And uh when I talked to you, I I [33:48] thought the leash law was more stringent than it actually is. It's it's specific [33:53] to parks, which was disheartening, but um [33:58] and I'm told there's something else we've yet to find it anywhere. [34:03] Uh and if we can't find it, it doesn't exist. So, [34:06] um There is a state ordinance um but I don't know if I can use it [34:10] effectively here or >> I mean, it would take it would take [34:13] precedence over uh our local one [34:16] » [snorts] >> if it was in conflict with each other. [34:18] State would would hold you know hold serve, I guess. Hold serve or [34:23] interpret. Okay. Thank you. Um and I have talked to you and I'm not [34:27] done with it yet. I mean, if we we're going through the ordinances now [34:32] and that'll be another section that we can work on. Um there's there was a [34:36] really good piece on that very subject in the in the UDO that got voted down. [34:42] So, we will we'll try to beef it up, but [34:46] it's it's a slow process. It is. So, and other public comments, I think Jason [34:52] » is Jason Ball. I am apologize if you guys table is not in [34:56] here in my area like it used to be. But I was under the understanding you [35:00] guys were going to have a list of county roads that you were [35:10] going to open up for bids for ditch work and meeting next [35:13] week, but >> Next week? Yeah. Yeah. We're having [35:15] that's why we're having a special meeting and we're going to take care of [35:18] that. Is the public is that meeting for you or Uh it's a meeting for us and the [35:22] highway department. >> Okay. [35:24] So, we're going to get our heads together and figure out what we have to [35:27] do and how much money we can afford. >> I'm sorry. I said we're we're going to [35:31] get our heads together, figure out how much money we have, what roads we can [35:34] and can't do, and and we're going to look at it, but we are going to start [35:37] tackling some roads. So, [35:40] » I have to learn that. I mean, we've I've got my list. I know [35:44] you got your list and Sam will have his list. And then [35:48] once we look at it, we'll get bids on it, and then of course, the bids are [35:52] going to push around what we can and can't do based on the amount of funding [35:56] that we have to do it. So, um >> [clears throat] [35:59] » we had hoped to we had hoped to deal with that earlier. Um [36:04] But anyway, we're going to do it next week. Okay. Do I need to go [36:07] Do I need to contact with you like bid packets and Um [36:12] I would like to think we would have a standard packet that we can hand out to [36:16] whoever wants to bid on it. And someone sent put out a really good local [36:20] contractor that does that kind of work. You were on the list. [36:23] Um on Facebook and that that's a and [36:27] everybody was local. So, maybe that's the list we need to work off of and we [36:31] can send these things out. It's really >> want to stay local. Get in contact with [36:34] me at the highway department after we have the list and I get the bid packet [36:38] drawn up. I'll make sure you get that. Okay. I don't really monitor these [36:41] meetings, so I don't really know what's going Right. I just want to get my name [36:43] out there right now and make sure you Well, no. We we want to get as many bids [36:47] as we can because that that will drive the price down just from [36:51] you know Of course. the bid process. Plus, the more we can save, the more we [36:55] can do. That's right. Um but yeah, we're going to we're going to [36:59] we're going to do that next week. Any other public comments? [37:05] All right. Seeing none, auditor? Anything? [37:10] Mr. Attorney, do you have anything? Uh no, there's a couple of things going [37:15] on, but not not stuff for our meeting. [37:18] Okay. Commissioner Thomas, Dave, you got [37:21] anything? I have none. [37:24] And I have nothing to add. [37:27] I would entertain a motion to adjourn. I'll second. All right. We are [37:31] adjourned. Thank you very much for coming, folks.