[0:00] um and so we were looking at august it
needs to be
[0:04] um
put on the put on the
[0:08] uh they need to be notified that we want
to put it on the um thing and we had not
[0:12] received anything from the
uh county commission or the chair et
[0:16] cetera until last week
it was last thursday
[0:21] last thursday or friday we got a finally
got with some prodding
[0:25] from a few different directions we got a
letter from the city or county attorney
[0:31] stating that they
wanted to meet with all of the mayors
[0:35] on monday
june 27th at 6 00 p.m it'll be a public
[0:41] i mean you know you all could come it's
going to be in the historic courthouse
[0:46] commissioners meeting room at six
o'clock monday june 27th
[0:51] to talk about splost
they also sent
[0:55] over with that letter
their proposed
[1:00] distribution of
or allocation let's say of
[1:04] what they projected in terms of revenue
from the splost
[1:09] and
a draft intergovernmental agreement
[1:13] so
this has all been
[1:16] real short you know fused in terms we
just got it
[1:23] the
long and short let me just give you the
[1:26] sorry the long short of it is they were
proposing a six year splost
[1:31] and they were proposing to use strictly
the percentages of population
[1:36] and um so
the
[1:41] implication of that on oxford explicitly
under their um
[1:48] under there
for five years
[1:51] based on their estimate of 108 million
for six years
[1:56] when you divide that by six and then get
an annual figure and multiply it has
[2:00] five just for comparison of what we got
this uh what we were allocated
[2:05] for the 2017 supplies
for the 2017 plus we were allocated 1.5
[2:10] million i believe somewhere around that
number and five years would get us 1.846
[2:18] um
and six years would get us 2.216
[2:23] based on us being 2.3 percent
i'm sorry 2.05 percent of the
[2:31] county population
however
[2:36] we met with the mayor we had met i met
bill and i met with the mayors and city
[2:40] managers a couple weeks ago and that was
what led to the prodding to get the
[2:44] county to take action we met just today
and the um
[2:51] consensus was
sorry
[2:55] sorry
the consensus of that meeting
[2:58] was to
um
[3:02] not accept the county's proposal
but rather to suggest which which would
[3:08] the county's proposal sorry uh
would mean that they would receive 82.73
[3:16] of that 108 million dollars because that
is um
[3:21] their percentage of the county
population is in terms of unincorporated
[3:25] area
which we all
[3:30] agreed was not appropriate because of
disproportionality of
[3:34] where revenue is generated and the
intensity of use of public service
[3:38] infrastructure and services
and so we will when we meet with them
[3:44] when we meet on monday
um frank turner will
[3:49] he's going to convey before then but he
will be the voice
[3:53] of that we propose the county receive
76 percent
[4:00] of the splost funds which is
i think one pers is that one percent
[4:07] more than they got
previously i think so
[4:10] in the in the 2017 splash
but still seemed like a reasonable
[4:16] suggestion so
the game has just begun in terms of
[4:20] negotiation we're hoping that they will
just that they will
[4:23] um
go along with that but it seems that
[4:26] they're playing
a bit of a
[4:28] game of chicken with the cities and so
the cities are talking and we're
[4:34] trying to
make sure that
[4:37] we are all unified so i if you all have
other thoughts on that it's just been we
[4:42] had to meet today to talk before i had a
chance to talk to y'all but i wanted you
[4:45] to know that that's
in discussion
[4:48] and of course that's just to get it on
the ballot and then folks have to vote
[4:53] on it so
i guess
[4:55] and then i'm sorry this is also the year
by the end of this year calendar year we
[5:01] have to reauthorize uh the lost
um allocation distributions
[5:08] and um we have until december 31st of
2022
[5:14] to submit to the department of revenue
what our lost uh allocation will be
[5:21] the
county has to submit by july 1st
[5:26] they have to submit to the department of
revenue their intent to reauthorize
[5:30] uh the lost if they do not then any city
within the jurisdiction can notify
[5:37] depart revenue that we intend
to
[5:40] have it really and then i think it's 50
percent of the city's support it get it
[5:44] goes forward
if they will not negotiate agree on a
[5:48] reasonable allocation for lost we have
an option of going into um
[5:54] our arbitration
to and then but the default is to
[5:59] population figures
for that so
[6:02] anyway just throw it out there jim i
don't know if you had any questions you
[6:05] look like you maybe have questions but
if any of y'all have questions i'd be
[6:08] happy to answer them now based on what
we've talked about just in the last week
[6:14] nothing
okay this is a same dialogue that we've
[6:19] heard back
before the 2017 squash
[6:24] of course the numbers are changing
because the income has changed yeah yeah
[6:30] it's the same push and pull
and of course there's new faces all
[6:34] around the cities and the county yeah
but
[6:39] calmer heads prevailed and a percentage
is agreed upon that everybody's been
[6:44] able to live with yeah and i think
that's
[6:47] where the mayor's need to go is to push
back for that percentage again
[6:51] and and i mean we recognize there's no
one on uh in on the county commission or
[6:57] in senior positions of staff
that were around when the 2017 splash
[7:03] was passed or the 2011 lost was was
negotiated so i think it's 2011 was last
[7:10] anyways 10 years ago um
so
[7:14] we weren't sure if they knew how to do
things so we were trying to counsel them
[7:19] on what needed to be done and they have
taken steps on splost they they said
[7:24] they didn't want to talk about lost yet
but we all feel very strongly that we
[7:29] need to be negotiating both
at the same time one thing because
[7:32] timing but the other thing is just it
doesn't make sense to have two different
[7:36] rules really
um
[7:38] so just that that is in the works if you
want to come and
[7:42] uh be a part of that meeting on monday
please do
[7:46] and i'll be happy bill and i'll be happy
to share with you the information we
[7:50] have from the county and the information
we discussed in in our meeting this
[7:54] morning
we were all just trying to play the
[7:57] numbers and saying well okay what if
what if this what if that
[8:01] um
but but one thing we do need to do as a
[8:04] council
is decide what our uh allocation will be
[8:10] among the categories of projects and
bill uh we can send out everybody what
[8:15] we
you and i kind of brainstormed as a
[8:18] thought really based on what we've done
in the past you know some to public
[8:22] safety some to transportation some to
infrastructure you know i.e water and
[8:27] sewer
and uh
[8:30] roads
so we'll get y'all's input on that we
[8:34] want we can talk more about that uh in
the july work session if y'all want
[8:40] but sorry i just wanted to share that
while it was uh
[8:43] hot off the presses
[8:46] um
so that covered lost and splost
[8:50] um
one other thing that sought out the
[8:53] president i and i haven't had a chance
to to talk to any of you all about is um
[8:58] i had communication with ribbian
and they have submitted to be in our
[9:03] parade
and are gonna uh intend to drive uh one
[9:07] of their trucks in the parade and so
i said well you know maybe
[9:11] we could use
as one of our transports for vips and
[9:16] then
have more vips we can put in the in the
[9:20] prices we i think we have two jeeps
i think roseberry actually said uh mayor
[9:25] formerly roseberry i think he said he's
got a miata somebody's gonna
[9:29] car him around so we've got it's it'd be
a great opportunity to get
[9:33] you guys the other council members maybe
our you know
[9:36] uh planning commission chair our trees
parks recreation chair dda chair maybe
[9:42] get some other community leaders
in the you know out there in these uh
[9:48] more high visibility so
anyway just wanted to share that with
[9:52] you because it
might change the way we
[9:55] line people up or organize or whatever
but it was pretty cool that they they
[10:00] wanted they wanted to be in our parade
they and they wanted to put one of the
[10:03] trucks in the parade
so
[10:06] more more being smart about getting
trying to build rapport in the community
[10:11] yep make this
give more visibility i suggested they
[10:14] should stick around to at the park yes
and let folks see the you know see the
[10:18] truck absolutely um
they've made a few missteps thus far
[10:24] yeah so they're trying to make up for it
i think they
[10:26] they realize they want folks to get to
know them and understand they're not the
[10:29] type of company that's gonna
you know destroy the environment and um
[10:34] you know exploit natural resources et
cetera don't we have some kind of
[10:37] personal relationship with the caribbean
company yeah i guess full disclosure of
[10:42] my son's going to work for you
he's interned in the past two years and
[10:47] uh and he's going out to california to
work for them uh
[10:51] leaves on the third so he won't be there
for the parade but um yeah so i do have
[10:56] obviously that personal connection and
that my son
[10:59] in turn interim with them
don't hold that against me but anyway i
[11:04] think it's
good for the community for them to have
[11:07] an opportunity to
be there and i think it supports our
[11:10] ethic of sustainability and
so it seemed like a good win-win for me
[11:15] for us
to me for us
[11:19] great
i think that's it for announcements
[11:23] any questions
[11:26] all right uh let me get the right agenda
[11:31] do we have any we don't have any
citizens here to express concerns
[11:37] i think
not showing up makes a statement
[11:47] so the next item is the deputy sheriff
july 4th contracts i know y'all were
[11:52] sent as part of the packet
the contract
[11:57] for
hiring deputy sheriffs for july 4th who
[12:01] has details on that
this does not cover about any
[12:04] governmental agreement
uh
[12:09] no you mean like
the existing
[12:12] responsibilities of the can of the i
don't i think they operate by the fact
[12:16] that they are responsible to cover us as
the jurisdiction of their
[12:20] i don't know that we don't have a
separate iga with them dude
[12:25] so to answer your question
this is we're gonna have to pay the
[12:28] sheriff's department deputies to come
and
[12:30] assist us with the parade
as a matter of fact i called the uh
[12:35] sergeant redlinger jack redlinger and
then i invited him up the parade and
[12:41] his first response was like man i wish
that you were i hoped you weren't going
[12:45] to call me and tell me y'all were having
that parade this year
[12:48] he said i've got to have 10 deputies
committed to their events one fourth
[12:55] so
i did tell him we were taking it off of
[12:58] 81 but we do need some assistance and
so he agreed to find us in three deputy
[13:04] for four deputies to assist us
[13:09] so we discussed it at the parade meeting
and it was
[13:13] the decision was made that needed to be
ran through
[13:16] city attorney
and he recommended the contract
[13:20] be signed in order to pay the deputies
to assist us with traffic
[13:25] but the funds the funds will go through
the sheriff's department to pay the
[13:29] deputies
or we'll pay today we'll pay the
[13:31] deputies director
this is sort of like an off duty so each
[13:36] each of the officers will sign with that
kind just to give you a little bit more
[13:39] uh background just because they are
short staffed i did send an email out
[13:43] over the weekend
and
[13:46] i was contacted by sergeant redlinger
and advised that the sheriff's
[13:50] department are accepting no prisoners at
the job due to
[13:55] staff shortages and officer concerns
unless it is a felony so if we arrest
[13:59] someone we take them and they
fingerprint them and they release them
[14:03] so
when i asked them to have a prisoner
[14:06] transported to the city court who was
arrested for a
[14:10] outstanding warrant
i was advised then that we have to hire
[14:13] all duty deputies to have him
transported from the jail to the court
[14:18] so we had to
make some movement and discussion with
[14:22] the judge and the solicitor
to hear the cases
[14:26] and then when one officer had to go and
transport the suspect defend it back to
[14:30] court
[14:32] if we hired a deputy to transport
a prison
[14:38] does he have to sign a contract
i don't know that's i've never had to
[14:43] we've never had to sign a contract
before the reason i keep asking the
[14:46] question
i'm not sure councilmember i just
[14:49] stopped but knowing that
an attorney was asked that's exactly the
[14:54] quick answer you're going to get from an
attorney take a
[14:57] it's always been my understanding in my
experiences working off part-time duty
[15:01] jobs as a police officer is that you
request it through your department if
[15:05] your department agrees and allows you to
work that job
[15:08] then you recover
to work that
[15:11] job as if you were working on duty
in my previous department that if you
[15:16] were working a part-time job at the
location and the call went out and they
[15:20] expected you to respond to that call
because
[15:23] your police officer on duty
working
[15:26] if you're working in the walmart west of
challenger or the home depot and there
[15:30] was something that happened across the
street or around the corner they would
[15:33] want you to respond because you're there
so that was part of the agreement with
[15:37] the officers to work a part-time job
often
[15:40] but i've never signed a contract in
my career
[15:44] why can't
you and your officers transport
[15:49] we can that's what we had to do
this person that was transported was six
[15:55] foot three three hundred and eighty
pounds
[15:57] uh
he was transported from one jail to the
[16:01] next shelf here
and after he got to the newton county
[16:04] jail it was my understanding he was
still in the holding cell because we had
[16:07] another inmate to take that next day
and apparently he was giving the
[16:12] sheriff's department a very hard time
at the jail with the fighting
[16:18] so
i myself had to attend the chiefs
[16:21] conference at that time not out of
congress but the chief's training it was
[16:24] required by the law and we had two
officers here
[16:28] so it was not
at that time it would not have been safe
[16:31] for one to transport but we made
arrangements we had to order uh a leg
[16:37] shackle and what's called a waist belt
so where you could handcuff them to the
[16:40] waist
there's not in here there never was any
[16:43] here at the police department so we
didn't order those and we were able to
[16:47] get him here without insulin
normally we will
[16:50] be able to transport them now we have
four
[16:53] personnel so we there's no problem with
two to go and get an inmate and then to
[16:57] have two still getting four we have to
man the board
[17:03] uh for unfortunately stand right here by
this podium for about four hours
[17:07] while the judge is here and we hear the
cases we have to have them come into a
[17:11] metal detector we want them
and they can try it so we do have to
[17:15] provide the security
[17:19] that was the that was the only hiccup we
had at that time
[17:25] so we uh can we go ahead and get a
motion to approve the deputy sheriff's
[17:30] contracts so that uh we can get those
four officers under contract to support
[17:36] us on july 4th
we'll have discussion after motion so
[17:42] you move with the okay wait a
second
[17:45] okay so further discussion
um so i just was curious about that you
[17:51] know the off-duty
contract jobs and just pulled it up and
[17:55] um the only thing i could really find is
peachtree city
[17:59] pays forty dollar suggests forty dollars
an hour that's what their police
[18:03] require for off duty things like that um
and fifty dollars an hour for movie set
[18:08] work which i thought was kind of fun
but i was wondering where we've gotten
[18:13] our fifty dollars an hour from is it
enticing those off-duty guys on the
[18:17] fourth or
no ma'am so that's the minimum right
[18:21] here
[18:24] okay
also just to give you another
[18:27] explanation as to why
it is the fourth of july
[18:30] so some officers go to make 75 to
125 per hour
[18:36] we were i was actually contacted by a
lieutenant from the city of covington
[18:39] police who asked if our officers would
like to work part-time for them that
[18:43] evening
[18:46] sure okay cool i was just curious
because i'd never really thought about
[18:50] off-duty work and so i was kind of
looking online just give you an idea
[18:53] about peter city i think you might be
familiar with eastern city it's a
[18:58] very very very very very well-to-do
wealthy city
[19:03] so wealthy that they paint the back of
the stop signs of brown all the
[19:06] guardrails are printed brown to blend in
um
[19:11] and
they it's it's a very well off city so
[19:15] they're they're paid their offices are
about 80 000 per year wow yeah wow so
[19:20] it's
surprising they need to up their hourly
[19:23] off-duty rate
so
[19:26] and i'm not sure how old that is but
that's to me yeah and that's the other
[19:29] thing i couldn't find a date on the
material that i was reading so i was
[19:32] like i just wonder how loud the date is
yeah it was interesting reading sure
[19:42] [Laughter]
[19:51] uh
all right do are we gonna have any
[19:54] officers at work for the city coming in
that evening
[19:59] then you just say that they called to
ask if we would have some officers that
[20:03] would like to work
we they did ask us if we would like to
[20:06] work with everyone so far as refused
because fourth of july is monday and
[20:10] we will be working friday saturday
sunday and monday so okay i was just
[20:14] curious that they were being asked to
sign a contract
[20:19] they said there was some paperwork that
they had to fill out was the tax form uh
[20:23] that that evening they would sign the
tax form and then they would have to
[20:26] check that okay
i don't you know
[20:31] the contract to me it goes against what
we've always done and suddenly we're
[20:36] setting a different precedent
which is fine if that's what we want to
[20:40] do
but it's always been
[20:43] more handshake kind of things in the
past a big part they don't do much of
[20:50] that anymore
you know this is true but i mean you
[20:53] know well i mean i agree with you my my
experience has never had a contract
[20:57] either
it's always been
[21:01] if i had the permission to work from a
supervisor from my department
[21:05] the agreement was between myself and the
person who was paying me i've never had
[21:09] to sign a contract with
the company that was
[21:14] this works
it's possible that the sheriff's
[21:18] department is trying to be more
enterprising without the resources
[21:22] no this was requested by me
to have a contract and i still think
[21:27] it's the right thing to do
i mean if they're acting as independent
[21:31] contractors then and not and we're not
doing it through a sheriff's department
[21:35] agreement then i i agree i think a a
contract
[21:40] is appropriate well just just as a
reminder when we had to have the uh
[21:47] evidence lockers redone we entered into
a separate contracts with those police
[21:52] officers to accommodate that that was a
push by me as well this is falling in
[21:57] the same path and i i don't see that we
should
[22:01] not go along with them sure
[22:05] and then taxes will handle that as
contractors at the end of the year
[22:13] yeah so we had a call meeting at 6 30
and the work session at 7.
[22:18] that's right
um okay well
[22:22] any further discussion on the motion to
approve contracts for the four off-duty
[22:27] police officers
to assist with july 4th
[22:33] any further discussion
all in favor say aye aye
[22:37] all opposed nay
[22:50] oh sorry
did you say i think yes okay all
[22:56] all right uh next item is a request to
authorize purchase of
[23:01] taser 7 to replace out-of-date equipment
we've discussed this previously
[23:07] and want to get that
request in front of y'all any additional
[23:11] detail cheap
uh
[23:14] so this is a
[23:17] so this would require the contract
signage as we did with the body camera
[23:22] which is this is the new camera system
that we went to as opposed to the
[23:26] earpiece of the headpiece this is a one
piece gear now
[23:30] this would require a contract signed by
you as well for that same company
[23:35] with that we have sent it to the
attorney city accounts uh city attorney
[23:39] mr strickland
he's reviewed it said the contract
[23:42] looked fine
so
[23:44] we're just coming before you to get a
authorization for the mayor to sign the
[23:48] contract or answer any questions that
you may have regarding this taser seven
[23:53] uh
okay i have a really quick question but
[23:56] it's not relevant there it's not
relative to the taser seven it's more
[24:00] about have we got enough under small
equipment in the budget for this
[24:04] 37.
we explicitly put yes taser costs and
[24:09] service contracts i just wanted to in
the budget yeah
[24:13] good yeah
so we're going to get a motion to
[24:16] approve the contract for the taser 7.
second any further discussion
[24:24] all in favor say aye aye
all opposed say that
[24:28] all right thank you chief
all right next item is approval of the
[24:33] fy 2023 budget resolution for the fy
2023 operating budget
[24:39] and the fy 2023 special revenue funds
budget and effort 2023 capital
[24:45] improvement plan you'll receive those
items uh
[24:49] you get a motion to approve the budget
resolution
[24:54] so rule take a second
okay have a second any further
[24:58] discussion
[25:05] all right all in favor say hi hi all
opposed to
[25:09] all right we are done with all of the
items on the agenda get a motion to
[25:14] adjourn from the regular uh for the
called uh meeting session
[25:19] just a second
all in favor say aye aye
[25:22] all opposed all right
now we will move into our work session