[0:00] Yeah, I'll show it to you. It's
[1:14] Huh?
[1:18] » Yeah.
[1:22] » Ready?
>> All right. It's 7 o'clock. We'll call
[1:24] the meeting to order.
Any approvals, additions, or deletions
[1:29] to the agenda?
[1:34] Does everyone have the opportunity to
look at claims?
[1:38] Can I get a motion on claims?
>> Second.
[1:42] » All in favor?
[1:46] » Has everyone had the opportunity to look
at the minutes from August 17th, August
[1:51] 24th,
and August 31st?
[1:56] » Yes.
I'm just
[2:01] » Can I get a motion on those minutes?
>> I'll make a motion.
[2:09] » All in favor?
[2:16] » Moving on to disconnects and extensions.
There at the top of your packet, there
[2:22] is one extension letter.
[2:38] Do you want any explanation what I was
getting at on these?
[2:41] » Yeah. Yeah, if you could. So, on the
disconnects, um, generally those are
[2:47] done first thing in the morning and then
they've got all the way to like close at
[2:51] 3 to come in and pay. We have a lot of
people that do that.
[2:56] » Um, and I think I know there's at least
one more I'm able to mark off here, but
[3:02] given the list and Eli's not usually on
Wednesdays, I know I think he was going
[3:07] to ask Austin if it was okay to come in
tomorrow because Dan Patch and trying to
[3:11] get things ready for that. Um, but with
his timeline, he's usually out of here
[3:17] by two. Um, I'm just more concerned that
even if he gets through the list, is
[3:24] that going to be enough time? If
somebody comes in at three, he's not
[3:27] going to be here and we can't turn them
back on.
[3:32] » You have to do it within 48 hours of the
meeting. So, yes, you could turn around
[3:36] and do it Thursday, but if he's taking
samples or anything like that, we're
[3:40] again in the same situation if he's the
only one. Um, but this is an audible
[3:45] thing. So, if you guys decided to just
not do disconnects, you guys need to
[3:52] make that decision. I can't. So,
[4:01] » disconnects.
>> Yeah.
[4:03] » Can I get a motion on that?
>> I'll make a motion.
[4:09] All
>> in favor? I
[4:24] All right, moving on to department
department reports. Clerk treasurer.
[4:30] » So, some things I have the office is
going to be closed
[4:34] for the construction meeting. I'm not
sure the date. I went and looked it said
[4:37] the 21st on a Wednesday and that's a
Monday. So, not exactly sure what day
[4:42] the I know it's usually Wednesdays.
[4:51] » So, it should be that weekend.
>> 21st.
[5:00] » 21st is a Monday.
>> Yeah, but it says on the Wednesday the
[5:04] 21st. So,
>> and I just noticed it before. So, yeah,
[5:07] I'm thinking it's probably that day. I
don't have anything on the 23rd on my
[5:11] calendar.
>> It's usually 10.
[5:14] » Yeah,
>> let's assume it stays the course.
[5:18] » You hear anything different?
>> Zoom in. I'll have that posted for when
[5:22] I'm
>> You got a coun, right?
[5:25] » Yeah, that's usually what we try to do.
[5:32] » Um and then um we'll also be closed the
29th through the 1st for conference.
[5:38] I'll be gone too.
And that's it for September. Um the
[5:43] August bank wreck is complete. That is
down the table somewhere. Um did want to
[5:50] discuss with you guys the holiday list
for 2027. I've given you guys a list of
[5:56] proposed dates. The first top of that
list is um when the Federal Reserve is
[6:01] closed and that's what we kind of based
off of last year. And then down at the
[6:05] bottom there's another shorter list of
some that you guys have given off or so
[6:10] don't need a motion today of approving
them for next year. Just if there's some
[6:15] on there you you guys are like no there
shouldn't be a holiday or anything to
[6:19] add. Um and then I'll list those on to
the salary ordinance next month when
[6:24] when we get that ready. Um
and that'll be with hopefully with the
[6:30] budget. And speaking of the budget, the
last regular meeting I think that we had
[6:35] um had gotten that news about
from Bill Jones that was handling the
[6:40] fire territory saying to hold off on
doing the hearings and adopting the
[6:46] budget until next month. Um did get in
touch with
[6:51] DGF, the director up there to kind of
get an idea of what her thoughts were on
[6:57] it. Um they don't have the numbers yet.
They are swamped. they're still behind.
[7:02] Um, so the options were to go ahead with
thinking yes, the territory is going to
[7:09] get approved and the numbers that are
estimated, we go ahead with that and
[7:13] then if it comes back that they're not,
um,
[7:17] then you we would just have to they're
going to lower the budget and then we're
[7:22] going to have to work everything out in
into what what is available.
[7:28] um
that would be better than advertising
[7:33] lower and then having and then not
getting any and then having to do
[7:36] additional appropriations next next
year. So if we just go high and they
[7:41] don't approve it, then we just rework
with what we what we get. Um but that's
[7:47] that's up to you guys. But I do if we're
going to do that and this is another
[7:52] reason why I say go ahead with where
we're at and sticking with September
[7:56] versus October is because when we put it
up to advertise the plan right now is to
[8:00] do that on the 11th and 10 days later is
the public hearing. So we can do that at
[8:05] the regular meeting on the 21st and then
the adoption can be on October 5th at a
[8:10] regular meeting because you have to do
another 10 days after that. If we push
[8:14] everything, then you're looking at the
21st, the 5th, you know, later in. And
[8:20] this has to be done by November 1st. You
guys have to adopt it. If there isn't a
[8:25] forum at the public hearing, you kind of
have to start over. You got to
[8:28] readvertise. Wait another 10 days. Wait
another 10 days.
[8:31] » Run into problems.
>> Yeah. And if it doesn't get if a budget
[8:35] doesn't get approved by November 1st,
you have you're going to get last year's
[8:39] budget or this year's budget, which is
considerably less than what we're going
[8:43] for this for next year.
>> I think we stick with the
[8:48] » Yeah.
>> original plan. Yeah. We need to
[8:51] readjust.
>> Um,
[8:56] we talked a little bit the SRF
dispersement forms. Um,
[9:02] Simeon will be here at the next meeting
if you guys wanted to wait and go over
[9:06] those. Also, because that change order
six, he had talked about it, but it
[9:10] wasn't on the agenda, so it didn't get
approved last time. There was some, uh,
[9:13] discrepancy in the numbers in that. So,
um, I've given that information to Rob.
[9:20] So,
>> I just sent it to be prepared to get it
[9:23] cleaned up.
Perfect.
[9:25] » So, we can probably if you guys wanted
to table uh the dispersement 41 change
[9:30] order number six
until the next meeting. Um
[9:43] then the park committee has a couple
people here and I know that they're
[9:49] going to they have some requests that
are on here. Um, one that I wanted to
[9:53] discuss was the request to seek out
another grant from the Benton County
[9:58] Community Foundation. I have been
talking to Andrea over there. Um, there
[10:03] were some
not sure with the last grant how to
[10:08] handle I have reached out to state board
of accounts with my questions to make
[10:12] sure that that that we're doing that
correctly. Um, they got back with me
[10:17] today asking some more questions. I gave
them some more information. So hopefully
[10:21] that will go fairly quickly. Um Andrea
is aware that I'm asking these questions
[10:26] too and she's comfortable with, you
know, waiting till we find out from
[10:30] state board of accounts what their
stance is on it. And she did say as well
[10:34] that um
there's a little bit of leeway too on
[10:39] that on that date. So hopefully we can
get everything resolved in time for you
[10:43] guys to do that
>> in time.
[10:45] » Right. Or Yeah.
>> Great. and still be in in for that if if
[10:50] state board of counts works out that
way.
[10:56] And with that, there was some with the
community foundation. I know they're
[11:01] looking at other things too, not just
with the committee, but with
[11:05] organizations that work with the town,
how those things are working. Um, as
[11:09] well as there is a town fund over there
for fire that dispersements have been
[11:16] going directly to fire that should not
have been. So, there's a little bit
[11:20] extra cleanup that's going on over there
that needs to happen before we continue
[11:26] with those. Um,
think on here, Don Johnson,
[11:33] he had made a
personal payment on paint. You guys had
[11:37] approved that. Manard's I've got his
receipt in here um for that approval and
[11:43] I did get a W9 from him in case to try
to use the town resources but we had to
[11:51] uh talked about the holiday schedule.
The conservation and soil district had
[11:58] called me. They said they do this every
few years. They have a tour bus that
[12:03] comes out and they use the parking lot
out there at the school. People will
[12:07] come out, they'll park their car, they
join the tour bus, they take them around
[12:11] and at the end of the day they come. So
some cars will be parked out there and
[12:14] then they'll come pick up their cars.
The town building sign in sign out
[12:21] sheet. Um that was something that talked
with Tina about. I can't remember if we
[12:26] talked about it as well, but having that
at each of the buildings so that we can
[12:30] see who's going in and out since we have
contractors as well as employees and
[12:35] just having a if that's something that
you guys wanted to do
[12:39] » anyone Monday through Friday all day
coming in
[12:43] » even on the weekends like when they're
doing well is it just to state who's
[12:47] who's in the building
>> even residents coming in everybody that
[12:50] comes in and out the doors or sign into
the building when it's not open
[12:54] » your employees
Yeah,
[12:56] » because the Yeah,
[13:01] » public works building, that sort of
thing.
[13:03] » Um, Cindy and Tina worked on that new
hire checklist. We've got a copy of that
[13:09] with a with the town letterhead on there
for you guys to look over and approve if
[13:15] that looks okay.
[13:19] Salary ordinance. We have two salary
ordinances on here today. The first one
[13:24] is strictly for um
[13:31] Gerard
Travis.
[13:33] » Oh yeah,
>> for the new hire. Um you guys had
[13:37] mentioned$1550 for him. So that is what
I put on that one. And that's the only
[13:45] that in the end the full time that we
thought we were going to get. So that
[13:50] can always change later if you guys
decide to change it. It's not hurting
[13:53] anything being on there this one.
>> And then the second salary ordinance
[13:57] amendment is
there was a request um for Eli to be
[14:03] bumped up this year. I did make it
separate because we need to make sure
[14:07] that we get Travis um a set amount in
there and that one starts the 31st. This
[14:13] is with that pay raise for Eli um
starting this next pay cycle.
[14:20] And because if Tina were here, she'd
have to abstain in if we didn't have
[14:24] enough, it was just easier to do it that
way.
[14:30] And I will say with doing this, if you
guys approve this,
[14:36] because the seasonal person was taken
from the deputy clerk position, that
[14:41] position was able to take out of all
three funds. The mower you can only take
[14:45] out of the general. So, there is nothing
left to for the other employees. Um, and
[14:51] then the other reason why it was on
there is because you're only doing one
[14:54] employee and
not the other two if you're giving a
[14:59] raise.
[15:10] And I know Mar Aaron's going to talk
more about the Marshall patrol car. You
[15:15] guys have all those quotes in there plus
outfitting and he'll go over that. Um
[15:20] the co-op request for Damp Hatch Bingo.
Last year you guys gave 50. We do have
[15:29] that and more in the promotions bill.
So,
[15:33] I'll find that for you guys in a moment.
Um,
[15:39] we talked about the dispersements and
the grant.
[15:43] I think
that is all I have for you guys. Sorry,
[15:48] it's so long.
>> Did we talk about the
[15:54] engineering agreement amendment eight?
So that one Rob will go over. He's here
[15:59] to go over that one. Um I do have one
other thing. There is we're required to
[16:04] do the regional water planning meeting
every year. I did it last year. I was
[16:09] really hoping we'd have somebody to pass
that on to this year. They have one
[16:12] September 30 30th in Loganport. I will
be out. So I can't get to that one. Um
[16:18] but if we don't have anybody by October
27th,
[16:21] that one's in Monizuma. So, I'll go
>> Logan Sport.
[16:29] » I'm on either of you do anything on the
30.
[16:35] » I know.
>> Would you be able to that?
[16:39] » Yeah.
I'll I'll send you because you'll have
[16:43] to RSVP and all that for it
[16:50] » and I'll get I'll get you date date and
time and all that stuff.
[16:58] » That's it.
>> All right.
[17:01] Thank you. Austin is not able to make
it. So, we did we don't have anything
[17:07] public works I asked beforehand.
Um, Aaron.
[17:13] » Okay. So, after the last budget meeting,
I was able to gather some quotes for the
[17:19] new patrol vehicle. That would be to
replace the 2015 Dodge Tango that we
[17:25] have for our deputy. So, I've presented
three options to you guys to to go over.
[17:33] I'll just kind of quickly summarize
them.
[17:36] Um, the first one
is going to be a Chevy Auto
[17:43] that comes in at 575.
[17:47] And then they said a basic outfit price
would be after the outfit would be 74
[17:57] five.
Then the other two options are Ford
[18:02] Explorers.
their outfitting charges are less
[18:06] because they're a smaller vehicle. So,
there's two options on going forward.
[18:11] Um the first one is basically buying the
Ford
[18:17] as it is before it's been outfitted.
That price is 50,700.
[18:24] After we out it um they told me to pay
about 15,000 for that one. So that would
[18:31] be around 65,000.
Uh the third option and this one's also
[18:38] a board.
It is
[18:42] already been outputed. Um
a department ordered it then they
[18:48] couldn't come up with the funds for it.
So it's just sitting. Um because they
[18:52] need it gone. They're going to give us a
discount of 1,500 on it. So for $59,000
[19:02] we would get a Ford Explorer that's
already outfitted.
[19:07] Um
and then
[19:11] I would like to add to that to that
board. I would like to add two two
[19:17] features. One would be like a single
transport case in the back and then some
[19:22] storage racks that I have on in the
back. That cost is 5,300.
[19:31] Um, and in whatever vehicle we do
choose, I would like to add a dash cam
[19:37] that I have in my vehicle
33.
[19:42] So
you guys can look them over, but the um
[19:46] I talked to those with Preston and I
think the uh the close that we're kind
[19:52] of leaning towards would be the third
one where it's the four that's already
[19:56] been outfitted.
Um because it's
[20:00] we're getting almost a $2,000 discount
and it's already outfitted. So if we do
[20:06] add those two features to it, he said
it'll be done in 10 days. or if we don't
[20:10] have those two features, we can
literally just it's ready to go right
[20:15] now.
>> I personally be hard into that one, but
[20:19] I think that they could do better. Is
there any negotiation in that one? How
[20:23] many people do you already pref?
>> I was going to add to that. Uh we
[20:31] have gotten some of our vehicles from
them and have a decent relationship with
[20:36] them. So, um,
I'm assuming this top member you have
[20:41] like a direct contact for him.
>> I do.
[20:43] » If you could I'll get that from you at
the end of the meeting and I'll see if I
[20:47] can talk with him and see what we can
do.
[20:49] » And then
>> Yeah. When we were on the phone the
[20:53] other day about it. Um, we're getting
ready to get rid of vaults out of our
[20:58] cars actually, which is the exact same
thing that I I run in um mine.
[21:04] » Okay.
And I'm assuming because you mentioned a
[21:08] vault for rifles and whatnot, right?
>> Um I'm assuming they would be heavily
[21:14] discounted. I think a vault's like
$1,800
[21:17] brand new. Um so I could get a price on
that from Peru and see if we could get a
[21:24] deal on something like that. And uh
yeah.
[21:31] » Okay. Um but yeah that that third option
after um
[21:38] even if we have the luxury
um that came in like 67 which um
[21:47] I think it's the best deal we're
probably
[21:52] again I didn't look at the upfitting but
that is this is without a cage at all
[21:57] correct
>> a quarter cage
[22:01] You got to have that,
>> right? So,
[22:07] » cool. Yeah, I'll get that from you and
I'll reach out and see what we can get
[22:13] going. We can get something better on
price.
[22:18] » Okay.
>> But I like that third one.
[22:21] » I agree.
>> As well. So, um,
[22:26] » and then just besides these these
clothes, um, the only thing else I have
[22:29] is we got Vampatch weekend coming up and
I do have me and Preston both scheduled,
[22:35] but we have Max covered for the weekend.
>> One more thing on the vehicles. Who has
[22:43] done your most recent graphics?
>> It's um,
[22:50] I can't remember the I can look it up.
They're they're associated with the JTN.
[22:54] Okay. Outfitters. It's who like they
always take them to. So, it goes from
[22:58] the dealer
>> the JTN and it's just right down the
[23:02] road from I can't think of the name
right now.
[23:05] » You have an idea as to what that's going
to cost. I I don't yet. I haven't
[23:11] discussed the details, but I want to say
off the top of my head, um, when we got
[23:18] my vehicle done six years ago, I think
it was maybe like in five range,
[23:24] » I think.
Don't quote me exactly. You're you're
[23:29] fine. If you reach out to them and just
see that way, we can kind of add that
[23:35] collectively into the number.
>> Sure.
[23:38] be awesome. Cool. Thank you.
>> Anything else?
[23:44] » No, that's all I got.
>> Perfect.
[23:47] You guys have anything for any?
[23:52] » I do not have anything from the fire
department at the moment other than the
[23:57] extinguishers
um email
[24:01] » that was going back and forth.
>> The PO.
[24:03] » Yep. Okay. All right. That'll work.
Moving on to business guests,
[24:08] Commonwealth, Rob.
>> Uh, thank you. I guess before I jump in,
[24:15] um, I do want to take the opportunity to
introduce, uh, Tina and the council of,
[24:20] John Stannisburg.
Um, Marines paid their dues and looking
[24:25] to retire within about a year. Um, this
area will become part of John's
[24:31] territory. So, John's a new Marine, not
as pretty.
[24:35] Not sure if he's as feisty as she is yet
either. That's to be determined. But I
[24:39] did want to introduce John to you folks.
>> Um, as with Marine, if there's ever any
[24:47] issues and you feel like you're not
getting treated the way you want me and
[24:53] my team, then this is your sounding
board because he'll make sure it gets
[24:56] sent by real quick. So, um, we'll start
seeing him more at meetings, but, uh,
[25:03] tonight was kind of the first
opportunity we had to bring him up to
[25:06] meet you folks. So,
>> thanks for coming. Nice to meet you.
[25:11] » Um,
I guess with that
[25:16] to close the book on your fire
department discussion, I was told that
[25:19] that me
getting buttoned up this week or getting
[25:23] inside the building. They end up going
with the one inch meter, I believe.
[25:26] » Okay. Um, perfect.
Did we navigate the 4 to one issue with?
[25:35] She's still looking into it.
>> And I'll make sure to mention so she'll
[25:39] have something for that for the next
meeting
[25:42] » because I believe that's still going
through the 4 inch.
[25:45] » Yeah, right now process of
>> all like the domestic stuff inside,
[25:53] right? kitchen, bathroom go through the
latch,
[25:56] » but it's got to flow through the four to
get to the one.
[26:01] » I believe that's how the plumbing is. I
didn't get the same
[26:04] » the the four is
>> stubbed up through the the 4 inch main
[26:09] coming out of the ground.
>> So, it's 4 foot high right out of the
[26:15] floor at the 4 in and then the 4 in
flows up and then the one in comes over.
[26:20] » Did they not decide to put in a separate
one outside?
[26:24] There is not a separate one outside.
>> So, we wanted to get the all the
[26:30] internal
normal, right? Domestic whatever
[26:34] residential type usage,
>> I guess. Here's a here's a
[26:38] » you have the other way. If the other
one's there, I would keep it because you
[26:41] can subtract two for your water loss to
know what's
[26:44] » Yeah. So, we talked about that, but the
problem being how we navigate the 4 in
[26:51] being running the the one the one in
flow is still coming through the 4 inch.
[26:55] Obviously, it's
>> so how we would
[26:59] » the only the only thing I can think of
like thinking outside of the box is
[27:03] moving the four past the one.
>> They may have already accounted for
[27:09] this. I guess let me find out and make
sure
[27:13] » because that's on her end
>> when she sees that in the system it's
[27:18] going to be weird.
>> Did that orange get swapped out?
[27:21] » I don't believe so.
>> I don't believe it has. No, it hasn't
[27:24] because I would have seen it in
>> just
[27:29] over the
[27:34] gone in to read it before. I mean, if
there's a way to disable it from
[27:39] communicating here,
>> but still be able to take readings out
[27:43] there, let the one in communicate in
here.
[27:46] » Yeah. It wouldn't communicate. No,
because it would just have to be looked
[27:49] at for like you said one and just orphan
it as a
[27:54] » I don't think the fact that it's there
is going to impact the accuracy of one.
[27:59] » No, no. I think it just might make the
flow on the pore be a little wonky
[28:04] when it comes to reading.
>> But if it's
[28:07] » But I guess you can sub. The reason I
say that is because
[28:11] the water flowing through the one inch
is going to be a different flow than
[28:15] right the 4 inch. It's going to be a lot
less
[28:18] flowing through.
>> Well, it is, but it's it's an accuracy
[28:24] thing. You should get a more accurate
reading through the one than the four
[28:27] because the volume
>> the volume isn't the volume is what it
[28:32] is, right? It's going to pass through
the pore,
[28:35] » but it's only going to be at a rate
that's being discharged out of whatever
[28:41] faucet or the toilet or whatever they're
using.
[28:44] » Yeah,
>> that's the rate, right? Whatever's
[28:46] coming out is the rate that's moving
through the pipe, right?
[28:49] » It's an accuracy thing. At that point,
bigger meter is going to have a harder
[28:54] time reading smaller flow and smaller
meter.
[28:57] » Correct.
>> So, as long as it's not communicating
[29:00] here and playing games with her system,
then for purposes of like water loss
[29:07] auditing,
as long as somebody can go out there
[29:11] once a month or whatever, just get
physical reading on it, write it down.
[29:15] Correct.
>> Then that's all we're really worried
[29:16] about for building purposes is what's
going through one.
[29:19] » Yeah.
[29:22] asking the top.
>> Perfect.
[29:26] » So, there's that. Um,
we messaged over the past week.
[29:33] » I appreciate that.
>> Yep.
[29:36] » Um, so that's done. Um,
[29:44] Tina, there was some other odds and ends
that I don't know if I need to. I know
[29:52] you you and Simeon are working through
several things. Um, and I don't know if
[29:58] that says we'll work through it at the
next construction meeting after you guys
[30:02] continue the dialogue. Um
I know that in response to
[30:08] um one of the residents about potential
reduce pressure, somebody's working with
[30:12] that was on that getting that resolved.
Um
[30:17] I know the full council's not here
tonight.
[30:20] Before I jump to my amendment, was any
additional thought given to the 306
[30:27] South Crown or the 109 North Howard with
respect to
[30:32] getting away from individually metered
units and doing a master meter with the
[30:38] building?
[30:42] » I know I have not had that conversation.
that was um when that was brought up,
[30:47] Ingred was here and I haven't heard
anything as far as getting that done.
[30:55] » Probably wait take her back.
>> That's another one. I'll touch with her
[30:59] so that maybe
>> I would ask um everybody understands
[31:03] what he's talking about concept goes.
>> Yeah.
[31:08] » Yeah. I did put that
>> beer on her, right? You might
[31:14] give a little heartburn to the landlord.
>> Correct.
[31:19] » Actually would work in their favor on
some situations when you've got like two
[31:23] or three apartments that are empty. A
minimum read right or minimum bill right
[31:28] now is 103. So if they've got a couple
of those that's 206, you know,
[31:34] » versus
>> But that would be a a larger meter,
[31:37] right? So they'd be charged at higher
rate. It would. Yeah, we
[31:40] » no
>> we would we just need to verify the size
[31:43] of the service
>> and we we got that changed in the
[31:46] ordinance because the department so now
it's based on residential size even if
[31:51] it's larger. So from a billing
standpoint that's not issue right
[31:57] physical meter size it would be just
based off whatever that
[32:02] » I guess a bigger question for me is the
cost on us
[32:09] if Atlas is going to be doing that is
that extra work
[32:15] you know what I'm saying
>> well I think I know what you're saying
[32:19] and
>> in my mind it makes case my comment or
[32:22] my initial response I don't have the I
don't know what the size of the tap is
[32:28] if it's going to like a one in I don't
know
[32:32] » but instead of installing four meters
I'm installing one
[32:36] » so it should be a net savings
>> or instead of installing six I'm
[32:41] installing
>> correct but then
[32:46] » there's going to be a different
>> price for the meter
[32:49] » but there's still the the connecting all
of those lines, right?
[32:53] » We're already we don't have to do
anything inside the building because the
[32:56] plumbing's already there,
>> right?
[32:58] » We're going to go find the main line
that goes in,
[33:01] » drop it, drop a meter on it,
>> and then take the old and put jumpers
[33:06] in.
>> Yeah.
[33:08] » All that plumbing going to each unit's
there already,
[33:10] » right?
>> What if that line is only a residential
[33:13] size?
>> Well, they would be probably complaining
[33:16] about water.
>> Yeah. We wouldn't be changing the size
[33:19] of the line existing.
>> Yeah.
[33:22] » Or e any any line.
>> The intent is to match the size of the
[33:25] line that's tapped off the main.
>> Yeah.
[33:28] » Before it goes into
>> and like
[33:33] » Yeah.
>> If it was undersized, like if it was a
[33:36] three,
>> we'd already have issues.
[33:37] » They would be complaining already.
Somebody would be complaining to you
[33:40] guys.
>> Correct.
[33:46] Do we know, random question,
where we're at when it comes to the
[33:52] split meter or the shared meters and
all that?
[33:56] » What do you mean by where we at
>> with replacing those, turning them into
[34:00] » that's in process.
>> Okay. I just wasn't sure how far along
[34:03] they were.
>> I I don't have an update. I have one put
[34:08] together, but that's already
>> in the works. Yeah, I knew I knew it was
[34:12] in the process. I.e. this one over here.
But I just didn't know how far along
[34:16] that was. So just curious
>> working through it. Um I think Sam put
[34:21] some letters to you guys that I think
they were signed off on people from
[34:28] inside outside.
>> Yeah.
[34:30] » Yes. That's in the works. Um
[34:36] All right. I guess as far as this this
project then goes, I have amendment
[34:41] number eight. um that was emailed uh
container last week. That's my contract.
[34:48] Um
it this amendment serves two purposes
[34:52] for us. One, it's um it captures, you
know, we in addition to having a
[34:58] full-time RPR up here. Um Simeon's put
in a lot of effort working directly with
[35:04] Tina and and he's actually up here
himself. um it seems like at least once
[35:11] a week if not more than that. Um, but
also to make sure that I've got
[35:16] full-time coverage, whether it's through
my RPR or Simeon or Bo through the end
[35:22] of the project, just because things are
coming up now that we're getting close
[35:26] to the end and having that ability when
Tina sends an email or makes a phone
[35:33] call or when you and I talk, me having
that ability to basically jump and say,
[35:39] I'll take care of it and get it done.
Um, I don't want to change how we've
[35:44] been able to serve you guys to date. So,
this amendment, um, taps out of the
[35:50] leadline money at SRF that was kind of
strategically done, but it basically
[35:55] gets me coverage for effort incurred,
but also through analysis completion. I
[36:01] don't have to go back to BM to you guys
to present another one of these. So, um
[36:07] it's 200 total, but it's split between
construction engineering and inspection.
[36:13] Um and this will get me through the end.
Um and then some we don't use we'll get
[36:19] back. And then along those lines,
we have budget for it, but then um
[36:27] and I don't know what's been discussed
in the construction meetings, but right
[36:31] now we're we're looking at
on a half on the low end probably half
[36:36] million bucks. On the high end could be
3/4 of a million, maybe 800,000 of loan
[36:41] money that's not going to get used. And
that's after what I'm presenting to you
[36:46] tonight, which means it goes back um
which will give us cost to then
[36:53] talk to your FA and see how that impacts
your rates.
[36:58] » So
blame insurance.
[37:01] You're saying
>> we can save you two to three bucks on
[37:05] your current projected rate that's going
to go into effect in January by not
[37:09] using all that money.
>> Sure. With this amendment 8, you're
[37:15] talking 200,000
additional for
[37:21] services
>> full-time inspection through the end of
[37:24] the job plus Simeon's time.
>> Well, I guess, and maybe I'm naive to
[37:30] this, but what changed? Like, was this
always the plan to charge an extra 200
[37:36] or
>> It wasn't factored in.
[37:38] » It It wasn't necessarily the plan,
right? But as we've navigated through
[37:43] construction,
[37:46] there's been a a lot more effort
involved. Not just something that like
[37:50] an inspector in town can handle by
engineering staff. Um whether it's
[37:56] because you guys are short-handed or the
extra coordination with, you know, um
[38:03] shared services or moving meters from
inside to outside
[38:07] um dealing with contam contaminated soil
type things.
[38:10] » Sure. and I get I get all the backend
metering stuff. It just been a lot more
[38:14] effort on my guys and I want to make
sure that I'm in a spot to be able to
[38:18] continue to provide that same level of
effort through the end of the project.
[38:22] We may not use it all.
>> If we don't, it goes back to the state
[38:26] with the rest.
>> Sure.
[38:27] » But this gets me covered through the end
of the project to make sure that I can
[38:30] provide the same level of service you
guys have been getting for the last six,
[38:34] eight, 10 months.
>> Don't take it the wrong way. But I guess
[38:38] the way that I see it is if I purchase
something, right, agree to a number for
[38:43] services
or a service, i.e. this project, right?
[38:50] » I guess I it surprises me to see an
extra pot of money needing to be pulled
[38:59] to supplement that work that was already
agreed upon. It was part of the part of
[39:05] the issue was the original budget was
said three or four years. So
[39:10] um
back like when we wrote the plary
[39:14] sharing report and got the funding
commitment that's when those numbers
[39:18] were originally set. Our cost to provide
that service have changed. But if I was
[39:23] going to start over from scratch that
number would have already been paid in
[39:28] but it's not because of just the timing.
Um, I get it. I understand. Um, but this
[39:35] is
>> it kind of feels like, oh, you're going
[39:36] to have this pot of money you're not
going to use. Maybe we'll just bump that
[39:39] up a little bit. And
>> no, it's not that at all. Um,
[39:43] it has everything to do with knowing how
on-site construction activities have
[39:49] gone to date and being making sure that
we're in a position
[39:54] to protect you guys so that you don't
have to deal with these issues if we're
[39:59] not here. if that makes sense.
>> Yeah. I guess I just like I said, it's
[40:04] one of those there's a number, we say
yes to the number, we start paying said
[40:09] number, and then we get to a certain
point, and it's like, wait, hold on a
[40:14] minute. That number's not the number
anymore. We short changed ourselves, so
[40:19] now we need this supplement. You know
what I'm saying?
[40:23] » Understand. I I mean, I I get where
you're coming from. Um,
[40:28] all I can tell you is we're projecting
out when Atlas is going to be done.
[40:32] » Sure.
>> Um, I expect them to come back with the
[40:36] time request. So, I factor that into
this to make sure that if we do
[40:44] » extension once outlet, does that mean
you're right that we gave them an
[40:50] extension?
>> Normally, it would. Right now, we're
[40:53] anticipating another one coming to get
all the work done that's been authorized
[40:57] and and additional work that's
anticipated to be authorized. Um, so if
[41:03] we do that, you're going to want
inspection on site to watch them do the
[41:08] extra work, right? That's part of what's
also break,
[41:11] » right? I get what you're saying, and I'm
probably being a dead horse here, but
[41:16] it's one of those things where it's like
that's part of the project and I
[41:20] understand the unforeseen circumstances
and unforeseen extra work, but you
[41:25] figured that would be accounted for from
the jump.
[41:30] » Well, it is when you carry a
contingency,
[41:32] » right?
>> So, I could just as easily say we're
[41:35] pulling this from our contingency funds
because that's why we have it when
[41:38] things change, right? We, you know, you
carry
[41:42] 5% on the low end, sometimes 10% of your
entire contract value as contingency.
[41:48] Um,
>> I guess
[41:52] » good.
>> Well, I guess I'll I'll kind of back to
[41:56] you, but this this is something that
yes, we did authorize them more time
[42:01] before. Um, we're continuing to try to
get as much work as done in town as we
[42:08] can within the rules that the funding
agency, in this case, SRF, has placed on
[42:13] us. Um,
which involves like the meters coming in
[42:18] and out of house and splitting services,
those types of things. Um, when we
[42:23] change scope, you know, the contractors
within their right to ask for more time
[42:27] to get it done. Um, if we grant them
more time, I want to make sure my guys
[42:32] are on site and available to watch them
when they're doing
[42:35] » I I I get that.
[42:39] » I guess it and I wasn't here for the
whole planning of the all of this,
[42:44] right? This is I I come in late in the
game, but I guess my understanding and
[42:50] again maybe I'm naive when it comes to
how things work when it comes to a
[42:54] project like this, but you hire the
contractor or engineering firm to come
[42:58] build this build out this project.
My understanding was those things were
[43:05] already encompassed in the project like
they were accounted for those things.
[43:09] Maybe not direct specific numbers as to
how many meters are indoors, how many
[43:14] meters need to be split, like that sort
of thing.
[43:16] » The but like the inspection for example
in our contract that's that's an
[43:21] estimated hourly service for us. So you
know we put a number in there to
[43:26] establish a budget based off of you know
what does an inspector cost per month
[43:32] for nine months or 12 months, right? If
you get beyond that, that estimated cost
[43:37] is going to go up because it was
premised off a fixed amount of time.
[43:40] » Sure.
>> Um, and it wasn't, you know, the only
[43:45] thing I compare it to is it's not like
design, you know, where design is like a
[43:48] lump sum and you're going to say, I'm
going to design your project for X
[43:52] amount of dollars and that's going to be
my cost.
[43:54] » Sure. Um, normally procedurally the way
that works is, yeah, there's going to be
[43:59] some changes along the way that you
know, whether it's an operator wants to
[44:04] tweak something or do something a little
different, usually that's gets sore. But
[44:07] once you get into construction and I I
start charging you based off hourly
[44:10] effort. Yeah.
>> I can only, you know, if we if we
[44:14] premised our estimate originally, our
original budget off of
[44:17] » 9 or 12 months and now we're at 14 or
15, that's another reason why the the
[44:24] cost goes up.
So I guess
[44:28] not saying this is the case but just
theoretically speaking
[44:32] what are we looking at if say that was
denied like what happens
[44:39] » well
>> and I'm not threatening that. I'm just
[44:41] I'm just asking
>> I I've got to go back to the office and
[44:44] make a business decision because at that
point if I have somebody up here and and
[44:48] they're not you guys aren't paying me to
have somebody up here then that's a
[44:53] cost. Sure.
>> But that I mean that's that's the risk
[44:57] » I'm I guess I just thought it would be
even no project I don't care whether
[45:02] you're building a house putting nothing
ever comes out the way you think. So I
[45:05] always think you guys have done this is
what you do big jobs like this that you
[45:09] would factor in those kind of things.
And
[45:12] » we do. That's why we that's why we when
we're doing these projects with you guys
[45:17] and we get bids in hand, we're saying
here's our project cost. And the
[45:22] question inevitably comes up, well, why
is that $500,000 higher than our bid and
[45:27] your contract? Well, because I'm
carrying contingency because these
[45:31] things do come up and that's that's the
safety net for when there's change of
[45:35] conditions and there's additional costs
to be incurred whether that's on our end
[45:39] or that's on the contractor end because
we want to add more water line here. We
[45:43] want to put more valves in over there.
That's where this is coming from. This
[45:48] has nothing to do with you got $2.5
million from the state to go build it.
[45:53] We don't have enough water lines to do
it. So, I'm doing a grab to get as much
[45:57] as I can for you. That has nothing to do
with this has everything to do with I
[46:01] know that there's at least two more
months worth of work for your contractor
[46:05] that's been authorized and there's
likely going to be a little bit more
[46:08] that's authorized and to have full-time
inspection when we authorize that
[46:14] additional work. I want to make sure
that I'm able to provide that.
[46:24] » Okay.
I have a question um on that. Is this
[46:30] » is the money that's going to be
allocated with this amendment is that
[46:35] part of
a reallocation from previous
[46:41] because I know it's all lead service
line money.
[46:44] » It's coming out to zero interest. Okay.
And this came up at the I I was talking
[46:49] to Emily um with these change orders
that have been happening and when the
[46:55] money has been moving from one bucket to
another, EDA is very specific on what
[47:01] they'll pay for, what they'll reimburse
for. Um, and I know she's going to look
[47:06] back on this too on the previous change
orders because
[47:12] change those buckets, but it's already
been paid and EDA has already
[47:16] reimbursed.
[47:20] Did they reimburse something that now is
not eligible
[47:23] because that bucket changed? So, I know
she was going to go back and that's why
[47:28] » it was hard to Yeah. Um the ED funds
only apply to the Atlas payments um
[47:35] because we're not eligible for any
funds. So like for for what I just
[47:40] presented as
>> and that's why I was just making sure
[47:44] that none of that was part of the change
order where
[47:48] » but yes I actually talked to Emily on
another topic on Thursday maybe last
[47:55] week and she was kind of giving me a
little bit of the background on what she
[47:59] just talked about and my takeaway after
talking to her was it was more with how
[48:06] it was presented.
in the in like change order form, not
[48:11] being broken out item by item and just
kind of saying here's the amount for the
[48:17] change order. She had to kind of go back
in on her end. So, she was um she was
[48:24] venting to me because she wants Riley
and Sime
[48:30] moving forward to make sure that like
even on the pay apps, when there's money
[48:35] being requested for payment on a change
order that was previously issued, it's
[48:39] got to be broken out line by line so she
can very clearly show EDA that she's
[48:44] having those challenges with whoever the
person is at EDA. Um, but I I think
[48:50] she's gotten that worked out. I haven't
I haven't been advised of any issues or
[48:56] concerns with respect to reimbursements
um not reimbursing the correct things.
[49:04] So, but I think this is her being part
of this is her being proactive, make
[49:08] sure she doesn't have to deal with.
[49:12] So just so I understand
this
[49:17] amendment number eight is not this is
for Commonwealth. So there's still a
[49:24] good possibility that we'll have change
orders from Atlas as well
[49:27] » if there's additional work that comes up
that you would like to have done
[49:31] » or something unexpected.
>> Correct.
[49:33] » Yeah.
[49:37] » And that's coming from lead service line
money.
[49:41] zero interest.
[49:49] » Thanks for bearing with me.
[49:53] » Anything else on your end?
>> No.
[49:56] » Okay.
>> I'll continue to answer any questions as
[49:59] you guys have.
>> Thank you. Good to meet you again.
[50:05] » Um, moving on to the park committee.
Thank you guys for coming again. Um,
[50:10] just some quick things. Um, this is an
old house. Um, there's a trash bin. You
[50:17] walk in the north door, there's a trash
bin that's on the left side, kind of
[50:20] junky. Um, people throw trash in it, but
there's really no trash bin in there.
[50:26] So, somebody else could dig it out. We
wonder can be open. Can we would we be
[50:32] okay to our committee to park and get
rid of it?
[50:36] » Is it I'm I've been in there maybe
twice.
[50:42] If you drop the lid, if somebody's in
there,
[50:44] » it's almost too heavy for me to lift,
but it's down there.
[50:49] » I can't lift it.
>> Okay.
[50:52] » I mean, I just want to make sure we
we've had the big trash off the ground.
[50:58] » Sure. It' be nice to have
[51:06] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[51:08] » We can Yeah, absolutely.
>> You guys good with that?
[51:13] » Yes.
>> Okay. Um the other thing is now that the
[51:17] pickle ball um court is there, people
are coming in from out of town and
[51:22] because that's a one-way road. Well,
when they leave,
[51:25] » they're going out the same way they came
in. Yep. Rick Johnson has noticed
[51:29] because she lives right across the road
that there's been crashes because the
[51:34] people that are leaving they don't
really know. Yeah.
[51:36] » So I think there needs to be a do not
enter sign at the bottom and then maybe
[51:40] a one-way sign to get them headed
towards the court. This says when you
[51:46] first go in,
>> it does when you first go in, but
[51:50] » once you're leaving the courts, I think
there needs to be a do not enter to go
[51:54] back up the hill.
[52:00] » Yeah.
>> Um then the next thing that road down
[52:04] there I guess is Kenny Barley Boulevard,
which doesn't exist, I don't think on
[52:09] any of the town, right?
>> But there is a road sign. Um, I don't
[52:15] know what it takes to get it on your
map. It'd be nice to be repaid, but it's
[52:19] also hold.
>> Sure.
[52:21] » So, whatever
it takes to get that started,
[52:25] » Matt and we're off for 2027,
but we can put in for 2028. And Matt
[52:32] talked about bringing down a like a
sweeper, the county sweeper, sweeping it
[52:36] and chipping and sealing it in the
spring. Kind of put a bandaid on it for
[52:40] 2027.
>> That's great. I just didn't put radar.
[52:45] » Yeah, if we can get it clean, we could
cold patch those holes and
[52:50] » say that would even make it better for
2028 when they go to actually pave it if
[52:54] we could clean it up and mandate a bit.
So,
[52:57] » yeah, perfect.
>> Just kind of a heads up. Um then we met
[53:02] there was a lady from Kurtsy that came
and talked about the park and different
[53:06] ideas but she made a comment that we
really can't apply for grants as a
[53:13] committee. We would have to be a park
board
[53:18] and then that requires like there is
certain you know things you have to
[53:22] follow on a board. So I sometimes like
to discuss whether you ever want a park
[53:29] board or just a committee.
>> Yeah,
[53:32] » we would be more eligible for grants as
a board.
[53:35] » Sure.
>> Um and then the last thing is this grant
[53:40] that Tina talked about that deadline
September 25th.
[53:45] So hopefully, we're hoping state board
of accounts get five, but we kind of
[53:50] needed in the minutes that if if we're
going to write it, it's going to cover
[53:55] lights, uh, security cameras, and motion
sensor lights down there because
[54:01] somebody's already cut the volleyball
net down there. So, yeah, you know, um,
[54:07] so just that type of thing, but it has
to be in your minutes what the grant is
[54:12] going to cover.
>> Sure.
[54:14] um so that they can put it so when um
the community foundation reviews it they
[54:21] real that you're aware of what the grant
do.
[54:24] » So
>> So do you have like a steadfast list of
[54:28] what you're
>> This is going to be for the lights to
[54:32] put lights on it. So like street lights
or just lights over the
[54:37] light or security cameras and then
motion
[54:46] » motion sensor lights for where
>> or on the volleyball court and maybe the
[54:50] pickle ball court. Okay. I don't know
how much activities the restroom.
[54:54] » Sure.
>> Kind of off they could be focused on the
[54:57] restaurant but go out that direction. So
if you any activity out there after they
[55:02] come on it would light up.
>> Sure.
[55:04] » And that's that would be but this this
>> and cameras for the same obviously the
[55:10] the new ports and everything.
>> Yeah.
[55:14] » Perfect. And
>> they just need to know that if that we
[55:18] can okay that so they can write the
grant for that even if we are okay to
[55:22] put it in.
>> Okay. But I thought I'd come to present
[55:26] it at this meeting.
>> Absolutely. because it gets them in
[55:31] » so that we can drop it in as soon as he
has be okay with
[55:36] » Sure. What do you have to
>> I think there's probably going to be
[55:40] clean up, but I know Andrea said that
there could be some time even with that
[55:44] deadline.
>> She did, but
[55:47] I just don't want to miss it. So,
>> if they get the approval tonight, then
[55:51] they don't have to come back in two
weeks or six weeks or whatever. It'll
[55:55] already be in the minutes that we board
approved it contingent on everything
[56:00] getting cleaned up for their last.
>> Yeah.
[56:02] » Yeah. That way we can go ahead and write
and it's just sitting and waiting.
[56:06] » Okay.
>> Okay.
[56:08] » With the cameras, I would just ask it.
Are you guys looking for cameras that
[56:12] would be like ongoing maintenance or
cameras that you would pull like a card
[56:17] from?
>> I think it would have to be a card. I
[56:20] don't think there's probably no Wi-Fi.
That's what I was asking because I know
[56:25] they do.
[56:31] » See something then we go pull the card.
>> Yeah.
[56:33] » And otherwise it just
>> Sure.
[56:38] » Okay.
>> Nothing.
[56:40] » Sure.
Awesome.
[56:46] » Awesome. Thank you so much. It's uh it's
on the bottom of the list here. So once
[56:51] we get to it for approvals and
>> whatnot
[57:00] nasty.
>> Yeah.
[57:01] » We like to take a white covering off and
leave the hole because on the other side
[57:06] on the south side they got hole with the
table.
[57:09] » Sure.
>> Well, we'll just leave the post then and
[57:13] then maybe drill it and run out the
other side.
[57:17] » Maintain the post.
holes may already exist.
[57:24] » And if we can cut them off, that's okay.
We can cut the white wrap off and
[57:29] » Okay.
>> That's okay.
[57:31] » Yeah. Yeah. When we get down to it,
we'll
[57:34] » have votes on it and
>> thank you very much.
[57:38] » They also have the dead tree.
>> Oh, yeah. There is the dead tree on
[57:42] there as well.
>> Oh, yeah. Well, there's lots of dead.
[57:45] Yeah. Yeah.
>> Who should take those down? Probably.
[57:50] John public,
>> right? We've used a few services. We can
[57:55] try and work on getting quotes on that
from the ones we have before. I know the
[58:00] one we just used that the the new um
town building.
[58:07] » Yeah.
>> So, I mean, we we can reach out and see
[58:11] what they can.
>> Yeah.
[58:17] » We don't want that. Yeah, we're just
hoping the Pong stores will attract
[58:21] people and more people will use that
shelter.
[58:23] » Absolutely. Awesome. Thank you guys for
your time and
[58:30] moving on to public comment. Anybody
have anything?
[58:38] » I thought you were going to say
something.
[58:42] » All right.
>> Um, no, I just have one question then.
[58:45] » All right. So, as you're coming into
town, there used to be there's the
[58:50] signage for the 40 mph. Is the 30 mph
one going to get put back up or
[58:57] I
>> think that's all I do.
[58:58] » Yeah,
>> that
[59:01] since it's the state.
>> Yeah, they're that they would be in
[59:05] charge of that. Uh, we can check with
them. I've got a number for them up
[59:08] there. I would assume. Yes. I would like
to assume. I thought I saw the 30 laying
[59:14] down at
>> it.
[59:25] » It's right before Dollar General.
Yeah. Yeah. Before the ad.
[59:34] » Yeah. I don't know if they had taken it.
>> Well, I saw that like the den line's all
[59:38] been
>> re
[59:40] » redone. So they might have taken it down
for that. If they did, I'll make sure it
[59:44] gets put back up.
>> Random on that. There's They still got a
[59:50] riser to put on one of those hydrants,
right?
[59:53] » Okay.
>> Yeah. I was thinking the same thing.
[59:56] Flag on it, but it's below ground.
>> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's Yeah. Okay.
[1:00:02] » Fair enough.
>> Perfect.
[1:00:05] All right. Moving on to uh
considerations of master meter for
[1:00:10] apartments. We want to table till the
other two are here. Have that
[1:00:15] conversation and hear back from
>> right. We'll table that. Um
[1:00:21] send you your new hire checklist.
I it's just uh nice just employee
[1:00:27] orientation checklist to sit down with
the new employee and go through and just
[1:00:30] make sure that we talk about all the
things that they need, you know, that
[1:00:34] this is what the job entails. This is
what we're looking for and it covers
[1:00:38] everything for them.
>> We kind of picked this off of offline
[1:00:42] and made it fit us.
>> Okay.
[1:00:44] » And uh I think it's a good one
considering we didn't have one before.
[1:00:48] So, I'm really happy with it and I Tina
and I think we're all there.
[1:00:58] » Just making sure that you know that they
don't have any questions and it's easy
[1:01:02] it's easy to pass over things.
>> Absolutely. No, that's awesome.
[1:01:17] Have the other two had the opportunity
to look at that? I know I know you did
[1:01:21] it with I don't Yeah, it would just be
awesome that has
[1:01:27] an opportunity.
>> Do we want to
[1:01:29] » I'd say we
[1:01:34] » not bias, right?
>> Not at all.
[1:01:36] » All right.
I I mean I'll can I get a motion on your
[1:01:40] new hireer checklist? I'll make a motion
>> and I'll second.
[1:01:44] » All right. All in favor?
>> I
[1:01:51] » um we need to make a motion on the new
the job posting. Obviously, uh we need
[1:01:58] to repost. Um Tina made mention before
the meeting started about um posting it
[1:02:04] essentially twice, but with the second
one outlining
[1:02:10] the fact that we need somebody it would
be it would require water and wastewater
[1:02:14] licenses
um and a couple years worth of
[1:02:19] experience
at I would say two to three years worth
[1:02:23] of experience um operating.
That way, you know, if we do have
[1:02:28] someone looking out there, it's it's
it's live and it's out there. They have
[1:02:32] the opportunity to put their name in the
hat. We don't know who we're missing if
[1:02:36] it's not posted. So, I don't think
that's a bad idea.
[1:02:41] » No, I like it.
>> So, you guys think what two to three
[1:02:46] years experience water wastewater?
They have to have two years experience
[1:02:52] to get their license.
>> Yes. working under someone
[1:02:56] » and then take their test. Yeah. So you
thinking more or
[1:03:01] » Well, that's what I think his question
is to their flying solo two years in or
[1:03:07] can just
>> I mean I think the two to two to three
[1:03:11] years covers
>> everything in because noting that they
[1:03:16] need to have both water and wastewater
license already established
[1:03:20] or are you saying two to three years
from the time that their license is
[1:03:23] established? I'm just saying they've
already had two two years experience to
[1:03:29] give the license.
>> Sure.
[1:03:31] » So if they have the license, they're
good. I think what Terry's saying.
[1:03:36] » Yeah. Okay. I mean,
>> unless you're
[1:03:40] » two to three from the time they license,
>> I would say.
[1:03:46] » What do you guys think?
>> Just my opinion, but you can leave it at
[1:03:49] just the two to three years and let them
interpret what that means.
[1:03:52] » Right. Regardless, they have the
license.
[1:03:54] » You're interviewing.
>> Yeah.
[1:03:58] » Doesn't matter what you change it to
when you post it, you're gonna get all
[1:04:01] kind
>> If somebody really wants it, they've
[1:04:05] only got one.
>> That makes a good candidate, right? You
[1:04:08] don't want you don't want to eliminate.
You want to You want as many applicants
[1:04:11] as you can, then you can refile.
>> Regardless, it's going to state that
[1:04:15] they have to have the licenses
established already at the time of
[1:04:18] application. So,
>> um, can I get a motion on that? I'll
[1:04:22] make a motion. All
>> in favor? I
[1:04:27] » Where where would you guys like the
starting salary to sit for that?
[1:04:33] » Do we want to put do we have to put
numbers on them?
[1:04:37] » I think it required me last time and I
was really low and I was really shocked
[1:04:41] that we got as many as we did and some
decent ones. Um, but just going off of
[1:04:46] you guys are paying less than 78,000
and that would ultimately be replacing
[1:04:52] him if if you got the right candidate.
So
[1:04:57] » yeah, I would say
>> as a starting.
[1:05:07] Yeah,
>> we could just put the slide starting to
[1:05:12] » depending on experience. Yeah.
>> I mean, I know it's only $2,000, but
[1:05:18] still gets that wiggle in. Yeah,
[1:05:23] » we need to go up. We can better to start
low than
[1:05:28] start too high. I know we could have had
a little less this.
[1:05:37] » Yeah.
All right.
[1:05:41] Okay.
>> So, moving on to payment for Don Johnson
[1:05:47] graciously uh picking up the paint.
>> I make a motion 2945.
[1:05:55] » All in favor?
>> I only put that on there because I
[1:05:58] didn't have any claims. So, I'm getting
paid.
[1:06:01] » Moving on to new business, the
conservation soil district old academy
[1:06:05] park request for October 1st of 2026.
So that's the um testing down there.
[1:06:13] » No, they do a tour.
>> Oh, sorry. The bus.
[1:06:17] » I don't know what I was thinking. The
parking of the bus in the old parking
[1:06:21] lot. I get a motion on that one.
>> I'll second.
[1:06:24] » All in favor?
[1:06:30] » Uh can I get a motion on the sign in and
out sheets for the uh town buildings?
[1:06:36] That would encompass like Tina said,
contractors, employees, that sort of
[1:06:41] thing.
[1:06:44] » All in favor?
[1:06:48] » Um, any issues with the holiday
schedule? We want to look that over. We
[1:06:53] don't have to.
[1:06:59] » So, we'll table that one.
[1:07:06] Uh the town marshall car and outfit
quotes. Um do we want to wait on that? I
[1:07:13] mean I could like I said we have a
relationship with them at
[1:07:17] » the university. I can reach out see if
that's steadfast uh you know talk to
[1:07:24] them
>> since it go ahead
[1:07:27] » since it is ready though and so it
doesn't like disappear. Could you do it
[1:07:32] contingent on a certain amount of
>> I absolutely say because you don't I
[1:07:37] said that how many people are going to
want it but we also want it so
[1:07:42] » that was with everything and other than
the decal
[1:07:45] » right right so that's yeah 67741
um after everything that Aaron Aaron
[1:07:53] spoke about with the possibility of
getting
[1:07:56] » cheaper um is that that with the dash
cam as well Yeah.
[1:08:02] » They're all included.
>> Yeah. Okay.
[1:08:05] » I make a motion
>> contingent on
[1:08:09] » contingent on
what numbers.
[1:08:12] » What number? What I
>> What number
[1:08:17] What was that? The total number I
>> 67741
[1:08:21] after everything.
>> Yeah.
[1:08:24] » Not to exceed, but I'd like to get it
for 65.
[1:08:29] down there.
[1:08:34] » Well,
>> so can I get a motion to approve not
[1:08:38] succeeding
>> not to exceed 674? Is that it?
[1:08:42] » 67741.
>> I'll make that motion.
[1:08:46] » What's that?
>> Not to exceed 741. Yeah.
[1:08:49] » Yeah. Okay. All in favor?
[1:08:57] uh the salary ordinances Tina sent down
um with A being um the new part-time
[1:09:06] mowing help and B being Eli's new rate.
Um again, that does
[1:09:15] kind of max out our numbers,
[1:09:19] » right?
>> For for the rest the remainder of this
[1:09:22] year. If if that was set where you had
it in the 24 for the new full-time hire,
[1:09:28] that would Yeah, that would
there wouldn't be any room for adding to
[1:09:35] any of the other employees.
[1:09:38] Can I get a motion on salary ordinance
2026908A?
[1:09:44] With that in mind,
>> I'll make a motion
[1:09:48] a right.
>> Yeah.
[1:09:53] All in favor?
>> I
[1:09:57] » and salary ordinance 2026 0908B.
[1:10:03] Can I get a motion on that?
[1:10:11] So with that being said
[1:10:16] till the end of the year again that is
there's essentially that's that's
[1:10:22] everything and that's not placing or
giving us an opportunity to to send any
[1:10:31] money towards Marshall's correct correct
[1:10:38] So,
[1:10:42] if we deny that, we would just have to
revisit the numbers and talk them over.
[1:10:51] Um,
[1:10:55] you're making a motion to approve.
>> I I think that it's a good idea. You
[1:11:00] know, Eli's been good and he's all we've
had for a time and I hate to see him get
[1:11:06] overwhelmed and so that that's my
thinking.
[1:11:10] » Sure. I understand that. What are your
thoughts?
[1:11:13] » Michael been here a year. He's already
got one raise.
[1:11:20] Every time we hire a person, everybody
seems to get a raise.
[1:11:24] » Sure.
>> So, we just need to stop.
[1:11:29] » Okay.
[1:11:33] Well, with
that being said, um
[1:11:40] I see both sides to it. Um but I also
see the fact that it's something that
[1:11:47] needs to be thought out. Um I appreciate
Eli and everything. Um but also I think
[1:11:55] the conversation needs to be had. So,
I'm going to
[1:12:00] deny that for the time being. We can
have the conversation again, revisit it
[1:12:05] as a full board,
um, and we can go from there.
[1:12:11] That work.
[1:12:19] Moving on to transfer resolution 2026
0908C
[1:12:23] is in Charles.
>> There's just a few on there. The first
[1:12:26] one is um moving cleaning services that
we thought we'd have at the new building
[1:12:31] over to the other services for the rent
for here because we're still paying
[1:12:34] rent. So, that gets a couple more
months. Um and then fire department had
[1:12:38] a couple things that we need to move
around. Not sure how I missed that one
[1:12:42] or and then public works. Um
one area that need to move around. So,
[1:13:01] I do need to get over there. Uh Wyatt is
pretty well finished up. Um he messaged
[1:13:07] me the other day, so I just haven't had
a chance to be over there.
[1:13:11] » I peaked in the doorway.
>> I saw the door frame done. It still need
[1:13:15] to transition and the door hung when I
saw the door a week ago.
[1:13:19] » Yeah, they he got a hold of me, I
believe it was yesterday, saying it
[1:13:22] would be finished up this week. So,
can I get a motion on that transfer
[1:13:27] resolution?
[1:13:30] » I'll second.
>> All in favor?
[1:13:35] » Uh, the co-op request donation for game
patch bingo. Again, last year it was $50
[1:13:42] that was given. We have that
at the very least.
[1:13:48] » Keep it. Keep it 50. Can I get a second?
All
[1:13:53] » in favor.
[1:13:58] » The CI owner engineer agreement
amendment number eight. Rob.
[1:14:07] Can I get a motion on that?
[1:14:16] Yep. That's that
[1:14:21] » I don't have an
>> We need one one way or the other. So,
[1:14:36] » so Rob, question because obviously it's
one of those
[1:14:43] it's a touchy subject, right? Either
way, um I understand you guys have
[1:14:47] business to do and just as well I would
hope you'd understand our side of our
[1:14:53] view of things and obviously you do it
every day. Um what is to say that
[1:15:02] we I mean what's the work? How much more
work is it if we approve a portion of
[1:15:11] that and say that's
[1:15:16] used up and we need to revisit it.
>> It's not it's just more paperwork for
[1:15:21] you guys um to approve. I have I put
that number together budgeting out where
[1:15:30] I think we need to be to see Atlas
through to completion so I don't have to
[1:15:35] come back.
>> It's like
[1:15:39] » me all in,
>> right? And if it's close, then I'll deal
[1:15:43] with it on my own. But that that isn't a
that isn't a come October 31st sort of
[1:15:52] thing. I'm done. It's the effort that I
see and I project my folks, Jacob,
[1:16:00] Simeon, Riley, myself.
>> Sure.
[1:16:02] to need to make sure that you have
coverage while Alice is on site and to
[1:16:07] close them out and to assist Emily and
SRF and Tina get all the paperwork done.
[1:16:14] » Sure.
>> Um
[1:16:17] I think I'm going to need 200,000 to
finish the job.
[1:16:21] » Sure.
to answer your question, if you decide
[1:16:25] to authorize a portion of that and it
just means
[1:16:29] I mean
>> I think where I need to be I'm going to
[1:16:31] come back again when it's gone and I'm
going to say all right we only did a
[1:16:34] portion
>> told you so
[1:16:34] » right
>> right um
[1:16:37] » I guess another question is where are we
at as we stand I mean with the the money
[1:16:43] that's already been
forked out or approved so to speak I
[1:16:48] mean how close are we to being like hey
we're at it we're out of cash when it
[1:16:53] comes to that sort of thing. You know
what I mean? That coverage, so to speak
[1:16:56] that you're talking about like are we
talking?
[1:17:02] » So, we're asking for 200,000. I'm
assuming that we're not at a point where
[1:17:06] it's like, hey, we're capped out. We we
need this 200,000 right this moment.
[1:17:11] I understand this is probably a an
assumption for me.
[1:17:16] » Kind of you're talking about on my end.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. you know, again, that
[1:17:20] 200 gets me, you know, into early to mid
November because that's where I think
[1:17:25] we're going to be to get done. Um,
part of it part of it has been spent.
[1:17:31] Um, but it's 2030.
[1:17:37] » Okay. So what you're saying is
essentially we're at a spot where you're
[1:17:42] like I need this to move forward
[1:17:47] with operations is starting
>> to provide the same level of service
[1:17:52] through the project. Yes.
>> Okay.
[1:17:55] » And if that isn't on the table,
what's the level of service you're
[1:18:02] talking about? Well, it depends if it's
it depends, I guess, on the temperature
[1:18:07] of the room, right? I'll be honest. If
if if it gets pushed to your meeting on
[1:18:16] the 21st, that's one thing. Um, if it's
just flat out denied, then I'll have to
[1:18:22] huddle up with my team and kind of
circle the wag and see where things
[1:18:26] stand to get, you know, a spot where I
can hand it off to you guys to take it
[1:18:30] through.
[1:18:34] Does it mean that they're not going to
be here tomorrow?
[1:18:36] » Sure.
>> Mean that they're not going to be here
[1:18:38] for the construction two weeks.
>> Sure. Well, I guess my thing is just
[1:18:43] being as transparent as possible.
Essentially, what you're saying is
[1:18:48] 30,000 of the 200,000 has already been
spent so to speak on manh hours.
[1:18:54] » You've incurred additional,
>> right? And with that being said, moving
[1:19:00] forward, if this doesn't just flat out
gets denied,
[1:19:05] not moved to the next meeting or tabled
to have a conversation with the other
[1:19:09] two members that aren't here, it's going
to be well, how do we button this up and
[1:19:14] hand it over to the town?
>> Yeah.
[1:19:19] » And that's fair. Yeah, I get that. So
basically we're looking at two extra
[1:19:23] months right from now till mid November
isn't the first month.
[1:19:27] » I that's what I'm being told.
>> 100,000 a month and that's for
[1:19:31] inspectors to be on site and making sure
things are done.
[1:19:35] » That's a combination of inspection and
construction engineering and the
[1:19:40] additional effort required. That's
on-site work. Um office that's office
[1:19:45] work.
>> How many people?
[1:19:46] » It's it's on average about two. um
sometimes two and a half when you factor
[1:19:52] in my time but I mean Tina can attest s
put in a lot of time
[1:19:59] » and I don't think that's the argument at
all
[1:20:02] » I just didn't know it's inspectors is
what
[1:20:05] » it's inspectors and construction
engineers
[1:20:09] understand what it is we're paying for
[1:20:15] » ultimately I need a motion one way or
the other or whether you guys are
[1:20:19] looking to table it.
[1:20:26] » Okay.
>> Okay.
[1:20:29] » So, it's going to be tabled. Um, we'll
have a conversation with them and and
[1:20:34] work through it. If we have any
questions, I got your phone number. I
[1:20:37] mean, even if it's one of those things
that we need to sit down as a a group
[1:20:42] and
>> chat it out, you know what I mean?
[1:20:47] » Yeah, that's fine.
[1:20:52] We're going to table change order number
six and SRF dispersement number 41 until
[1:20:58] we hear back for next meeting. Um that
way Riley or Simeon can get those
[1:21:05] numbers sorted.
[1:21:10] » Uh moving on to park committee requests.
Um,
[1:21:15] we're going to table the grant
permission obviously until everything
[1:21:19] gets sorted out. Hopefully it's sooner
than later. Um, hopefully it's sooner
[1:21:24] than September 25th. Um,
>> we're approving what they're going to do
[1:21:30] though, what their thoughts are for the
grant.
[1:21:33] » Correct. Just submission. We're
tableling the submission until that's
[1:21:36] sorted.
>> We'll probably go ahead and write it.
[1:21:39] Sure.
>> Yeah. The three things I want.
[1:21:42] » You just wanted to cover those three
things in your minutes.
[1:21:44] » Absolutely.
>> Foundation.
[1:21:48] » Correct.
>> Yeah. So, can I get a motion on the
[1:21:53] approval of that the lights
>> contingent on
[1:21:56] » Yeah. Contingent on the the
>> everything getting sorted out.
[1:22:01] » All in favor?
[1:22:08] Uh the request for park road pay. We
obviously got a
[1:22:12] » that's not
>> a solution
[1:22:15] but we're working towards
>> absolutely Tina and I talked that the
[1:22:19] other day.
>> Okay.
[1:22:22] » Yeah. Better than what's there.
>> He said spring because they've quit that
[1:22:25] for the for this portion of the year.
personally.
[1:22:29] » Okay.
>> Uh
[1:22:32] » we will work on signage as well.
>> I agree. I mean, people coming out,
[1:22:38] that's a big hill. You get people flying
in or out, not paying attention.
[1:22:42] » We got less people out there.
>> Yeah, absolutely. So, we'll work on
[1:22:47] that. Um
I'll reach out about quotes for the
[1:22:52] trees. Um see what we can get there.
And I mean, we're just going to have to
[1:22:59] see what the numbers are and go from
there. What were you gonna say, S?
[1:23:03] » I have a friend with Epic. I know we've
used them before, but I would need to
[1:23:08] know
>> which trees.
[1:23:09] » Which trees? Because they can't quote
unless I know how many and which
[1:23:13] » sounds like two.
>> I know the big one. I don't know.
[1:23:17] There's
>> small one up in the park.
[1:23:21] » So, there's three total.
>> I know the one. But anyway, make sure
[1:23:26] you and I will
[1:23:32] » go take a picture tomorrow and I'll send
it to them and I can get a quote from
[1:23:35] Epic then for you.
>> Perfect. You got a motion on the trash
[1:23:39] bin removal taking some of the
um existing blue bins.
[1:23:47] » I make a motion.
>> All in favor?
[1:23:51] » And the vinyl fence changed to cable.
So, removing the white vinyl. Um,
[1:23:57] now, is that going to be something that
you guys plan on trying to source cable
[1:24:03] before removing? I would assume the
white fence. Okay. Okay. So, can I get a
[1:24:11] motion on that? One way or the other.
[1:24:17] » I will second.
>> All in favor?
[1:24:22] any around the table comments, concerns,
[1:24:33] » guess I didn't have it on here. I know I
talked about it as far as the budget
[1:24:38] » um and advertising. You guys were in
agreeance to go ahead on the 11th with
[1:24:42] what was to go ahead and advertise the
budget as is. Okay. Just make sure
[1:24:51] everything.
>> Can I get a motion to
[1:24:54] » adjourn?
All
[1:24:57] » in favor?