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Okay. I'm going to call to order the

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village council regular meeting Monday,

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September 8th, 2026 at 700 p.m. rise for

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the pledge of allegiance.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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just to get agenda.

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>> Madam clerk, could you call the role,

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please? Cooks

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>> here. Kemp is absent. Nicha is absent.

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Ross here and not here.

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>> Okay. I'll make a motion to excuse Kemp

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and Nicoia, both with notice.

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>> Second.

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>> Motion by Cook, seconded by Ross. All

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those in favor say I.

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>> I.

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Any nay? Motion carries. Um, I'd like

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to make a motion to amend tonight's

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agenda to remove the second reading of

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the ebike ordinance and wait for a full

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complement of council. We're missing um

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two of our fellow council members this

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evening. I think it's an important issue

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for the um entire council to be present

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for. However, we still will hold the

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public hearing. So, any of you who are

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here to speak to the ebike ordinance,

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we'll still do that. Um but the motion

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is to remove on the agenda item 8C which

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would be the second reading in our vote

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on the eBike ordinance.

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>> Second.

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>> Okay. Motion by Cook, seconded by Ross.

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Any discussion?

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All those in favor say I.

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Any nay? Motion carries. Um so we

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will move right into our public hearing

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then. This is on our uh proposed

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>> the rest of the agenda.

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Did we Oh, did we not approve the rest

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of the agenda?

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>> We did not.

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>> Oh, okay. That was just a motion.

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>> we approved the amendment. So, let's

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just vote on the ordinance now as

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amended.

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>> Not the

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>> I mean the agenda. I'm sorry.

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>> Well, there was a Freudian slip.

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Um, let's vote on the agenda as amended.

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>> As amended. Okay. Motion to approve the

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agenda as amended.

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>> Second.

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>> Okay. All those in favor say I.

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Any nay? Motion carries. Thanks, M.

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>> Okay. Um, so a public hearing. So this

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is on our ebike ordinance. Um, we the

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purpose of tonight's hearing is a public

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hearing for council to hear from anyone

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who wishes to speak to us in regards to

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the proposed ebike ordinance. So we

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don't engage in discussion. We don't

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answer questions. We just want to listen

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and hear whatever you'd like to tell us

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about that. So, um, whoever would like

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to speak, I'll just have you, um, step

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up to the podium and we'll just kind of

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go through until everybody's gotten a

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chance. Um, and if you don't mind

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stating your name, um, so we can take

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some notes, that would be great.

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>> I always say tallest first.

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>> I read in the paper about the bike

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ordinance and actually I'm an ebike

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rider. Next month, I'll be 80 years old,

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so I'm not the one doing wheelies.

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the uh newspaper reports about them and

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people haven't learned to drive yet.

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four or five in a group. They stay in

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the group and say, "Ah, they're going to

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move out of my way." And they're

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dangerous to us, too. But what I wanted

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to mention is the class of bikes. The

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first class is the class one, which is

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you have to pedal to get the assist.

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or younger, you get to be almost 80. I

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mean, I can do it. But if you get the

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class three, which I have, my wife has.

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throttle. The class one does not have a

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throttle. Say, "What's that for?" Well,

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we come to a busy intersection. I could

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hit the throttle, get started, and then

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I can pedal. The pedal only, you've got

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to get put the pressure down first

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before it helps you. And believe it or

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not, when you get a little older, it's

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more difficult to do. If you get to a

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hill, you could hit the throttle and

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have a little bit more increase, a

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little bit more help. You don't have it

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with just the pedal only. If you uh get

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a windy situation, you get a little more

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help. Now, the class 3, we can go up to

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28 m an hour. I don't think we've been

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but with that class, you have the added

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benefits. So I guess what I would like

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to see and this is all across the

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country now. I would like to see an

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exemption for seniors

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because yes the problem is the younger

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folks and like say they bother us too.

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They're having a good time but they

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don't know the rules. They don't know

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right of way. We do. We pedal all the

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time. We go by a group of youngsters.

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just using the motor. But that's that's

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why I think the ordinance is good to

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kind of restrict that. Maybe the class

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one just for them. But please have an

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exemption when you get a little older

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because I think you know the I had an

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agriculture teacher once told me he says

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the fewer rules made the few fewer rules

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broken and we'll be breaking rules if we ride our class 3 bikes

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>> and we love to ride. It's good health

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>> But we won't be able to do it because

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they're not allowed on a lot of the

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trails. They won't be allowed in in in

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Oxford. But seniors are not your

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problem. It's the younger folks who

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don't know better. So, please please

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>> Thank you for your comments. Appreciate

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>> Chief Majestic.

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Uh just to say from the from our

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perspective, we have a very

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big concern over the idea of placing

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the people on ebikes and taking them off

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the trails and off the safety paths and

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putting them in roads is going to be a

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big risk in my opinion. Uh, I have a

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concern of the and the funny thing is

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it's going to be the law-abiding bike

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riders who are going to get put into a

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road and I'm my concern is that we're

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going to have more bikes in the road

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simply because they can do the speed and

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we're going to have people getting put

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at risk for getting hit by cars that

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would otherwise been on the safety path

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or on the trails.

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we're not happy.

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>> Understood. Thank you.

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» Anyone else?

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in the in the document now. Um because I

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think we addressed that whether it's in

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the street or not in the street. So

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that's been I think we addressed that

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last time, didn't we?

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>> We have a new document that was posted.

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» My name is Don Reed and I'm also an

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ebike recorder. Mine's a class two

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up to 20. Um, there's two documents that

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I I hope everybody's looked at. the one

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from Oakland County. It separates the

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non-pedal version called a motor, looks

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like a motorcycle, smells like a

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motorcycle. It is a motorcycle. It

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should be under the the laws of the

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state of Michigan as a motorcycle. And

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then there's a similar document from the

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chief of police in Rochester.

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>> So I I hope these two documents are

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being considered. And I think the plus

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thing is to uh take the traffic from

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bicycles and ebikes off of the off of

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the social area downtown. And and I

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think we all agreed to that last time.

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So that's my words tonight.

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>> Great. Thank you for your comments.

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the public hearing, then I'll move to

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close the public hearing at 70:08.

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>> Second, Cook Ross. All those in favor

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Nay. Motion carries. Okay, that

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public hearing is closed.

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>> So, just a reminder to our public

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attendees today that our uh likely our

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next agenda um next month's agenda will

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contain the second reading um which will

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be posted. It's on our website already

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in the agenda packet and then council

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will vote on it at that time.

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All right. Um, next up is our general

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call to the public. So, this is an

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opportunity for anyone to uh let council

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know anything that may be on your mind.

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to um speak to council in regard to,

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podium.

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>> seeing no one moving, I will close that

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public comment. We have another

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opportunity at the end of the meeting

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for an additional public comment.

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Um, so next up is our consent agenda and

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item A is our receive and file item. So

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I have a motion to receive and file.

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>> I'll make a motion to receive and file

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agenda items 7A 1 and two,

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correspondence, letters and

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communications and department reports.

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Stop. Okay. Ross and Nach. Um, all those

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in favor say I. I.

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>> I. Any naysay? Motion carries. And then

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do I have a motion for 7B?

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>> I'll make a motion to approve items 7B

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minutes from the August 3rd, 2026

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regular meeting bills in the amount of

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$266,000520

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sorry $266,52747.

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and the monthly budget report, treasures

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report, and budget amendments.

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>> Second.

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>> Okay. Motion by Ross against, seconded

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by Knack. Roll call vote, please.

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>> Knock.

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>> Yes.

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>> Cook,

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>> yes.

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>> Motion carries. On to our unfinished or

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old business. A is our village

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administrative building. Um, Mr. Mador,

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>> That's a new report. We're still working

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in the process for some drawings.

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>> Great. Any questions or comments from

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council?

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Okay. Um item 8B is our um an agenda

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item for priority our current waste

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hauler priority waste. Um representative

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representatives are here. Would you like

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to step up to the podium?

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>> Thank you.

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>> Just just by way of background priority

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is your current

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» good music. It's them ebike people.

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It's out of control. It's out of

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control.

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Our current uh waste hauler and as you

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know we've we've had some um issues and

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we did send a a termination notice of

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the contract as directed by uh the

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council, but they called and they wanted

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an opportunity to speak before council

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and uh the manager and I thought it was

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appropriate to let them have a have a a

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platform to speak to you.

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>> Thanks.

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>> Good evening. Sand Car Magnolia Priority

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Waste. Um just here to address the

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letter we received uh recently regarding

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the the cancellation termination of

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contract services. Uh while we recognize

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there have been some service issues uh

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in and around Metro Detroit, including

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your village here. Uh we have made

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tremendous strides in fixing our our

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shortcomings. uh be it the

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responsiveness, trucking issues, we've

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had uh we've had a complete change of

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management at the CEO level with

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priority waste. And I'm here tonight

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just to let you know that uh

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we'd like you to reconsider uh changing

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from priority waste to being your

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hauling contractor. uh we've got uh

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we've got methods in place and people in

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place now that will clearly uh ensure

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that the service remains at the highest

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level. Uh I've brought Mary Dean with me

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here. She was three and a half miles

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away from here. Mary worked with me at a

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prior employer. She works with me now

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and uh she will be your representative

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uh for primary waste who will stop in

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your Thursday mornings and stop by again

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Thursday afternoons uh to take whatever

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uh calls, troubles, miss services you

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have, relay them uh to our team and then

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relay them back to you uh as far as the

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completion of services. Uh, I met with

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Joe um last week, week and a half ago

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and I think there's a been a breakdown

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in communication. Joe Ford would forward

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some some mistreats or missed pickups

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and while he would get something down

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the lines of on it or we'll get it taken

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care of. There was never full

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communication back that said yes stamp

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this has been completed and it's done

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now and we'll keep an eye on such and

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such a street going forward. that

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communication lacks some and I can see

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where that that will be troubling to

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people. It's troubling to me when I see

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it. So, I'd ask for your reconsideration

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and allow us to show you what it is we

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can do uh in the way of service for your

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community. We've been doing this uh

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Mary's been in the industry a long time.

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I've been in tremendously long time. And

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uh I know that there's better there's

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better service out there. We want to

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give that to you. Any questions from

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council?

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>> When I just don't remember when did uh

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priority waste take over GFL?

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>> Well, just over two years ago. It was

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July of 204, I believe.

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» Was uh and you mentioned there's a

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change over uh ownership or management.

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When was that? Was that more recent?

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>> That was more recent. that was uh the

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CEO Todd Stamper was removed from his

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position. I believe it was February,

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midFebruary and we recently had a new

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CEO. His name is Aaron Johnson. Uh he

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was uh he had a variety of roles waste

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management and he started just about the

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end of May.

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>> So he's brought some procedural things

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in here. You know that uh we had a

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portal. We have a thing called LD and

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LDC who are the route managers that

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operate out of our Clint Township office

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and they watch the trucks on the video screen on on the computer

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tablet. But we're going back to a more

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traditional focus where we're going to

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have managers both at the site and in

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the field like you've known with with

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rubbish collection forever. So that's

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we're evolving back into that. We've got

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uh about 15 of those positions in Metro

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Detroit now and we're continuing to roll

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those roll those uh roles back to the

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operating sites where like I'm talking

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to you right now the the logistic

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manager will talk to the drivers and

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helpers on the truck. There'll be a face

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to face communication every day. We've

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been lacking that. We went to a a hard

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swing the other way and it took away the

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personal touch and the the ability to

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talk to someone face to face and pull

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them in your office if you have to.

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We're going back to that now and we're

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already seeing uh

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vast improvements in other areas and we

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expect the same.

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So, uh, you know, Sam is only one year

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older than me in the waist business,

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but, uh, the port hole concept, you

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know, if if if if you go down to Hall

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Road and you go to the structure and you

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look at the command center, it's it's an

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impressive system on when you when you

403
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go through the tour. But what what I

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think Sam is communicating this evening

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is that that distance and the you know

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all electronic reporting waiting for

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feedback electronically

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replaced what we all knew in growing up

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in the business of having a route

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supervisor if you will lack of better

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words. And in a lot of contracts going

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forward now you have a provision that

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companies have to assign a route

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supervisor who comes I guess your

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collection day Thursday comes in the

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morning checks in at the community

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office which would be here and then

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checks in in the evening to make sure

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everything was completed or walks away

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with a list that wasn't completed so it

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can get done. And I think what you're

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communicating is you're returning to

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that system. Not that you're abandoning

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the port hole because I know it has

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value, but that that more of a personal

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touch and I I think there's been some

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other information. You guys have uh

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purchased more vehicles which was a

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little bit of a shortage going on and I

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know you've turned over some personnel.

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I've met the new CEO at other meetings.

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Uh a long stellar background at Waste

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Management. Um a very nice individual.

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But um we did have a series of problems

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and we showed Sam the communication to

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what we kind of view as our route

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supervisor

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>> and we we just weren't getting we

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weren't getting like you said the

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communication back that things are

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happening and so we

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brought it to you and you you know you

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made a decision to at that time

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terminate the services which we did by

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letter. Um that's where we stand right

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now. Yeah, I recall we had someone from

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priority, two gentlemen from priority

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come in and I don't remember how long

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ago that was, but I don't know if any of

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the council members remember it was a

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while ago, but basically they said, you

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know, things are going to get better.

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One stood up and said, I'm kind of the

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leader, but this guy's going to be the

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one you contact. And then we never heard

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from him again. And then literally, like

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as council members, we're driving around

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like people are telling us there's still

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trash. So we're driving around taking

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pictures of it, sending it to him, who

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then is I mean it's just a crazy

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communication.

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uh way to communicate. I'll say that.

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But

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>> you can you can expect a dramatic swing

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and change back to what you were

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accustomed to. Again, I think uh James

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Taylor might have been here with Brett

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Quitquit.

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>> That's them two folks that were here.

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>> So, I've had conversation with both of

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them. That's why I'm here with with Mary

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at this point to tell you that yes,

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things are going to change and they're

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going to change in the right direction.

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You're going to have good communication.

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Joe, you're going to hear from Mary uh

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twice twice a day on Thursday and

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whoever else you deem necessary to hear

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from Mary to make sure things are

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getting done and we're going to make

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sure they get done. This is more than

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words. It's uh this is all I've ever

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done in this rubbish business with a

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couple different firms but this is all

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I've ever done. If I'm telling you it's

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going to get done, it's going to get

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done.

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>> Any other questions from

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>> I don't really have a question. Okay.

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>> I think that I haven't gotten it.

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>> Um I think we've given a lot of grace.

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It's been over two years. We have had we

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were with everyone else along with you

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when we had the transition and I think

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we gave a lot of grace as a community.

497
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This is the second time we're hearing

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it. We were very very nice last time and

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understanding. Okay. At this point we

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are paying double duty. We had to pay

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our DPW to go out and pick up trash.

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in the past couple months. And so I'm at

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a point where we've given a lot of

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grace. We we are very understanding of

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the situation, but the community needs

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consistent and reliable trash pickup

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and it just hasn't been proven in two

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years.

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>> Understood. That's why that's why I'm

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here tonight asking for for for a little

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more grace to show you that we can get

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this done and you can be proud of our

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service and we could be proud of our

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service for that matter. Ask me for just

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a little more time to show you what we

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can do and um uh just let let you see it

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so that it's more than words.

518
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>> Thank you. Well, I appreciate your time

519
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coming in and we'll take it into

520
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consideration. So,

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>> thank you very much.

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>> Thank you.

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» Okay. Next on the agenda, we move on to

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our new business items. We have our

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special event application for the

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Scarecrow Festival.

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>> U Yep. DDA annual deal. Um in a packet,

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she of course is in contact with the

529
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police and I believe the fire department

530
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to some degree on

531
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their setups for the day and stuff. So

532
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>> it's Saturday this year instead of

533
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Sunday.

534
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>> It is.

535
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>> So we're trying something new.

536
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>> We are.

537
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>> Okay.

538
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>> It used to be on Saturdays.

539
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>> You're welcome. Yes, we've gotten mixed

540
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feedback on that. So, we'll see.

541
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>> Okay, sounds good.

542
00:20:59,919 --> 00:21:01,840
>> Is it do they have the the the Michigan

543
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,200
Ohio State game again or something?

544
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,240
Michigan State game.

545
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,840
>> You know, I'll be honest. I have not

546
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,200
actually any football.

547
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,840
>> Okay, we have a firm no over here.

548
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,159
>> It only takes it only takes one second.

549
00:21:14,159 --> 00:21:15,919
>> We scheduled our open house and it was

550
00:21:15,919 --> 00:21:18,640
not very good.

551
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,640
>> Okay, I take that back. We did look at

552
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,200
the

553
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,200
>> I'll make a motion to approve special

554
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,360
event application 26-12.

555
00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:31,360
>> Second motion by Ross, seconded by

556
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:33,760
knock. Any discussion? Hearing none. All

557
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,520
those in favor say I.

558
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,000
>> I.

559
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,000
Any nay? Motion carries. Next is the

560
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,640
Pure Michigan Trail Town designation

561
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,760
discussion.

562
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,000
>> Another DDA situation that Kimberly can

563
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,440
expound on. She provided some

564
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,520
information here as well.

565
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,360
uh in your packet.

566
00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:52,240
>> Thank you.

567
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,520
>> Yes.

568
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,799
>> So, um a couple weeks ago, we met with

569
00:21:56,799 --> 00:22:00,080
the Oakland County Trail Administrator

570
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,280
and also some members of Oakland County

571
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,360
Main Street. And the reason for that

572
00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:08,159
meeting was we received this rural grant

573
00:22:08,159 --> 00:22:10,880
from through Oakland County. We're one

574
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,200
of I think five or six communities that

575
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,360
were receiving this grant. And one of

576
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:19,280
the projects that is being kind of

577
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,760
provided to us as an option from Main

578
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,039
Street Oakland County is to

579
00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:26,960
link our trail systems together to

580
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,760
create more of a regional destination

581
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,760
and somehow leverage that to get people

582
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,520
within our downtown. So, this was one

583
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,039
piece of that to see if that would be

584
00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:36,559
something that would make sense for our

585
00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:38,880
community and our surrounding community

586
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,240
during that um meeting. So, she came,

587
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,919
the group came, we sat down, we talked

588
00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:45,600
about it, we looked at maps, we went for

589
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,440
a walk throughout the downtown, looked

590
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,760
at the trails, looked at the the

591
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,520
location in conjunction with our

592
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,880
downtown and how we could better um have

593
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,640
better signage, how we could have

594
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,039
different types of interest of getting

595
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:00,960
people to the trail and from the trail

596
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,120
to the downtown. Um, with that being

597
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:04,880
said, one of the topics that came up and

598
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,120
something that I know has been talked

599
00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:09,520
about, I can't speak to much of it

600
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,360
before my time. I think Grace Perry, who

601
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,120
was on our board at one point, kind of

602
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:14,640
spearheaded

603
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,799
the initiative and then I I don't know

604
00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:18,080
the history of why it didn't move

605
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,280
forward, but my thought for this evening

606
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,120
is just to open it up to council and see

607
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:24,960
if this is something that would be of

608
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,080
interest to council to pursue the um

609
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,400
trail town

610
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,919
accreditation, I guess, if you want to

611
00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:34,799
call it. Um the Polyen Trail is already

612
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,120
a pure Michigan trail. So we do have

613
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,000
that as an advantage um by linking that

614
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,520
to

615
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,159
um the trail. This would be something

616
00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:46,640
that would be submitted by the village

617
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,360
because it is a village designation, a

618
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,600
town designation, but obviously both

619
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,280
Linda and I have had the conversation.

620
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,880
Linda was I should also speak. She was

621
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,360
at that meeting as well um from Polyand

622
00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,080
Trail and we're both in high support of

623
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,240
it. So, we're I'll be happy to do

624
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,559
whatever we need to do to help make that

625
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:06,000
happen if that's something that you're

626
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,400
interested in. When I originally saw the

627
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,279
application, it was a January deadline,

628
00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:12,799
but then when I dug into it a little bit

629
00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:16,159
more, it's a November 1 deadline. So,

630
00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:19,360
>> here we are.

631
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:20,960
>> Yeah, I think it's amazing. I mean,

632
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,039
we're so unique having the trail so

633
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:24,720
close to downtown and I think it would

634
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,760
be incredible to link them more. You

635
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,720
know, it's um it looks like you need a

636
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,640
resolution support. So, would that be at

637
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,120
the next meeting then so we can make

638
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,559
>> Yeah. Okay. And then do you did I hear

639
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:42,720
right like you and Linda would

640
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,240
>> put all of this together?

641
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,600
>> I think we would we'll have to look

642
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,200
we'll sit down with Joe and kind of talk

643
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,559
through who can do what.

644
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:49,360
>> Okay.

645
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,559
>> And make that happen.

646
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:50,880
>> Yeah,

647
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,440
>> absolutely. Do do they have a a format

648
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,000
for the resolution that they provide you

649
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,960
or would we be starting from scratch?

650
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,799
>> I'm sure I can talk to other

651
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,360
municipalities that have process.

652
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:03,760
Absolutely.

653
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,640
>> That's a good help.

654
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,279
>> We will absolutely get all the help we

655
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:08,000
can get. Yeah.

656
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,760
>> So we don't have to appreciate any.

657
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,200
>> Sometimes they have a template they

658
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,760
like.

659
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,400
>> Yeah.

660
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,279
>> What are the additional costs?

661
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:21,679
>> I don't believe there are any costs.

662
00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:24,320
because I mean it just look and so just

663
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,279
by looking and you know it has you know

664
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:28,880
making sure that you know there's

665
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,720
signage and and and and bathrooms and

666
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,559
barrierfree and and you know we have to

667
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:39,840
have events and we're you know this and

668
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,600
just looking there's a lot of there's a

669
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,440
lot of things that need to be that need

670
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,400
to be done every time. So I I think that

671
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,480
would be my only question is what

672
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,600
additional costs are there and who is

673
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,080
responsible

674
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,600
>> who's responsible for those costs.

675
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,880
>> I think that's a great question. I think

676
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,559
when it comes to the signage that would

677
00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:00,559
be either DDA or trail, right?

678
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,240
>> Um

679
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,440
>> I know that there's a plan a it says a

680
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,960
sustainable business maintenance and

681
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,480
marketing plan. So that would be

682
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,760
something that we would have to dig into

683
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,400
a little bit deeper. Um, again, this is

684
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,559
just more of a exploratory conversation

685
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:16,880
to see before we start putting effort

686
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,559
into it and time if this is something

687
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:21,440
you would support. Um, but I think

688
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,279
that's a great question because that

689
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:25,600
could be a differentiator. I know we do

690
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,520
have a lot of facilities on the trail.

691
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,760
We don't have anything in the village

692
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,600
very close to the trail when it comes to

693
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,120
like a bathroom.

694
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,039
>> So, that would be something,

695
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:37,039
>> right? So, and I think because that

696
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:38,159
would be helpful because like you said,

697
00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:39,919
it's like they it's like, oh, we have to

698
00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:41,520
have a board. Is this something that the

699
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,400
polyan trail board can do right now so

700
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,000
we don't have to duplicate

701
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,840
>> trying to get more volunteers to

702
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,000
volunteer for another thing?

703
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,080
>> So, it I think that would just be, you

704
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,000
know, what are dup what are things that

705
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,880
we're already doing that are already

706
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,240
mark off this list,

707
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,640
>> right?

708
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,240
>> Just to make it a little bit easier so

709
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,720
we know where where the holes are. But I think other than that I I think it

710
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,840
sounds great. I think it's a good

711
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,960
opportunity.

712
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,039
>> I think just people

713
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:12,320
>> about all the other stuff.

714
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,640
>> Yeah.

715
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,080
>> Yep.

716
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,760
>> Question

717
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,279
maybe.

718
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,039
Um,

719
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:20,880
November 1st feels like a very

720
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,360
aggressive deadline since most I mean

721
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:25,360
you need our approval,

722
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,080
>> polyan trail approval, potentially the

723
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,400
school board approval and a program

724
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,919
around the trail on here as well

725
00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:35,840
>> that maybe it feels more realistic for

726
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,400
next November. Is that an option?

727
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,880
>> It is absolutely an option. Yes.

728
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,919
>> Not that I want to delay, but it this is

729
00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:46,159
a lot to get through

730
00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:47,919
>> and

731
00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:50,720
everything that you said too.

732
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,360
>> So, yeah, absolutely an option. I don't

733
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,679
want to cut any corners. I want to make

734
00:27:55,679 --> 00:27:57,120
sure that we're thinking through this

735
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,039
properly and we have a very sustainable

736
00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:01,120
plan and make sure that everybody is on

737
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,039
board before we move forward with it.

738
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:05,919
So, absolutely an option to wait and

739
00:28:05,919 --> 00:28:08,080
proceed next year.

740
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,720
>> Yeah, that might be yeah, smart and

741
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,360
necessary. Um, I would be fine if we do

742
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:15,760
get it together to submit, but fine also

743
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,360
next year. I'm curious if like um I

744
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,919
guess the village staff or the DDA think

745
00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:24,720
that like maybe this is instead of like

746
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,640
this in addition to everything that we

747
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,399
already do, like is there something that

748
00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:31,520
we don't do and do this instead? Like

749
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,760
does does the DDA see that this would

750
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,919
bring more business to downtown or not

751
00:28:35,919 --> 00:28:38,080
really? you know, I mean that says like

752
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,000
I think Regina mentioned like

753
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,840
>> you know there needs to be an annual

754
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,919
trail related project or event which

755
00:28:43,919 --> 00:28:45,840
could be a smaller project or it could

756
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,720
be

757
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,840
>> it could be something we're already

758
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,159
doing

759
00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:49,279
>> or something we're already doing that

760
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:50,720
could tie in. Yeah, that's why I'm kind

761
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,360
of curious.

762
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,039
>> Yeah. So we partnered with the trail

763
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,360
through the spring of the cleanup. So

764
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,760
that could be a very easy a very easy

765
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,600
thing. Um

766
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,279
>> do I think that it's going to bring

767
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,600
tremendous amount of people? I don't

768
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,799
know. I think that's what we're

769
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:06,480
exploring as we're talking through kind

770
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,720
of synergizing with the trails and our

771
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,120
surrounding communities and how we can do that and if that's something

772
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,960
that's all of those communities are

773
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,320
interested in doing and willing to

774
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,399
utilize that money for. So

775
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:20,799
>> it it may from a timing standpoint make

776
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:22,799
more sense too to see if we're going to

777
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:24,880
be working with other neighboring

778
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,880
communities and if we're all trying to

779
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,360
become a trail town or you know at least

780
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080
one of us can use that as a marketing

781
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,600
opportunity. Yeah,

782
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,120
>> I think the larger goal whether we're a

783
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,440
trail town or not is really to get those

784
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,360
individuals from the trail to our

785
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,240
downtown and vice versa and keeping that

786
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,480
pedestrian friendly feeling.

787
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,360
>> Um I think a lot of people don't know

788
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,679
how to get from the trail to downtown

789
00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:53,120
and that was something we had a lot of

790
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,880
conversation around of what are some of

791
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,240
things that we could be doing. This

792
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,480
would add to that that wouldn't solve

793
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,200
it.

794
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000
>> Right. Yeah. Personally, I have a

795
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,760
colleague Pete Webster who is a great

796
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,520
>> biker bicyclist and he takes the trail

797
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,720
all the time. So, he comes to Oxford all

798
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,159
the time, but he stops at White Pine

799
00:30:10,159 --> 00:30:11,440
Coffee Roasters because it's right

800
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,080
there.

801
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,440
>> If we could bring, you know, people like

802
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,000
him into downtown for lunch or whatever

803
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,279
else helps, too. It would really help.

804
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:19,039
So, I just wonder how much

805
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:20,960
>> Yeah. How many extra I know we've been

806
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,720
working for a long time. I mean, we even

807
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,039
talked about like having people like

808
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,279
trolley from Waterstone into downtown. I

809
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:28,640
mean, we've had so many ideas. So, I

810
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,559
wonder if this is like a section of the population that

811
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:34,720
actually isn't touched as much as it

812
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,159
could be and maybe something like this

813
00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:36,799
would help. So

814
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:38,240
>> yeah, absolutely.

815
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,640
>> This would be a fun designation to have.

816
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,480
I still think we can do the work.

817
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,120
>> Okay.

818
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,279
>> Without this designation. So maybe it's

819
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:46,960
the chicken and the egg and maybe I'm

820
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,440
putting the cart for the horse, but I'm

821
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,399
like a lot of little

822
00:30:52,399 --> 00:30:54,720
things right now. But truly, if we're

823
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,640
the goal is to do that regardless of

824
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,200
whether we want have want to have that

825
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,799
designation as a trail town, we are

826
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:02,799
going to be working on that as part of

827
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,600
our goal process is getting people from

828
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,520
the trail to downtown and vice versa.

829
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,120
And we do have

830
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,200
>> the leveraging of the bike shop and they

831
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,279
already have bike rides twice a week

832
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:15,120
throughout the nicer months where we

833
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,200
have people meeting at the bike shop.

834
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,440
They're patronizing the local businesses

835
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,039
surrounding the bike shop and then

836
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:22,880
they're very familiar with how to get to

837
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,360
the trail back. It's just a matter of,

838
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,919
>> you know, other um individuals who maybe

839
00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:30,000
don't

840
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,679
>> they're not that active and they're more

841
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:33,760
leisure riders. And so, how do you get

842
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,919
them from the neighborhoods to downtown?

843
00:31:35,919 --> 00:31:37,360
We talked about, you know, when we went

844
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,880
for the walk, we were walking through a

845
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,760
neighborhood and

846
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,919
>> the trail administrator said, "So, how

847
00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:43,519
did you feel that walk went?" And we

848
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:45,279
were like, "Oh, well, the sidewalk was a

849
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:46,880
little

850
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,960
narrow and the brush was kind of over

851
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,120
the sidewalk and she's like, you know,

852
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,640
do you think bikers are going to be

853
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,000
interested in riding their bikes down

854
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,159
the sidewalk?" Absolutely not. You know,

855
00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:58,720
so just kind of looking at that as well.

856
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,039
So, it's not necessarily 100% just with

857
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:03,039
the trails, but it's certainly a

858
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:05,440
component.

859
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,360
>> Could we do the resolution next month

860
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,039
and then

861
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:10,799
>> leave it? Yeah. to be that way. The

862
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:12,720
resolutions completed and we can work on

863
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,320
it. If we're ready by November, great.

864
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,679
If not, we go next year.

865
00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:16,720
>> Yeah. Would that work?

866
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,000
>> May have to update it next year because

867
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000
they might want more more

868
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,279
>> more recent one if next year if it

869
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:21,919
doesn't happen. But

870
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:23,679
>> we could we could we could get the

871
00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:26,320
resolution get a template. We get the

872
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,559
resolution done and approved

873
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,799
>> at the next meeting.

874
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,600
Madam Kelsey, so a couple years ago, the

875
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,519
Polyian Trail did obtain the Pure

876
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:37,919
Michigan Trailway Trail and so it's it's

877
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:39,919
listed in some of the Pure Michigan Pure

878
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:41,519
Michigan designation and some of their

879
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,600
article or uh promotional materials and

880
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,320
stuff as well.

881
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:44,559
>> Yeah.

882
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:46,240
>> So, and by having them and then their

883
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,159
board and Linda of course as well would

884
00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:49,919
be helpful in all of that.

885
00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:53,440
>> Yeah, she's been fantastic.

886
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,559
>> Great. Thank you.

887
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:55,039
>> Thank you.

888
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,760
>> Great. Thanks.

889
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,120
Okay, next up is our downtown quadrant

890
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,200
parking restrictions for overnight snow

891
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,919
removal.

892
00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:05,440
>> So, I can speak to this briefly if

893
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,279
Kimberly can chime in if needed. So, um

894
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,399
obviously um this is we we're moving

895
00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:15,840
down that path of working with PPW and and the DDA by the the equipment has

896
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,679
been ordered. Um supposed to be here

897
00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:19,519
around middle of October, something like

898
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,440
that. um the Ventrak which is like

899
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,880
$50,000 plus investment from the DDA. We

900
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,679
have put together a uh Rudy and Kimberly

901
00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:31,039
mostly um a plan to roll out to the

902
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:32,480
businesses to explain what it is and

903
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,480
what it isn't more importantly.

904
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,720
>> Uh and I think some uh outreach

905
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,159
throughout this fall will be good for

906
00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:40,880
that. One of the things on the back

907
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,279
sides of the quadrant businesses mostly

908
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,840
is um we have some residents who park

909
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,320
along those um sidewalks right behind

910
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,600
the businesses. So, if they come in in

911
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,760
the morning, they already have to deal

912
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,799
with that when they're trying to do a

913
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:54,080
parking lot at 4 in the morning. If

914
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,919
somebody's lives upstairs, they park

915
00:33:55,919 --> 00:33:57,440
there overnight. It's hard for them to

916
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,919
clear spaces and stuff. Years ago, there

917
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:01,519
was a permit process even in the

918
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:03,039
downtown where if you were lived in one

919
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:04,960
of those downtown

920
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,960
lofts, whatever upstairs apartments, you

921
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,399
had a permit and you had to park along

922
00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:10,000
the back, like the back of the wall here

923
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,679
on Hudson Street or the back side of

924
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,599
somewhere else. And, you know, like

925
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:14,879
everything else, those things kind of

926
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:19,679
fade and lose their impetence. Um

927
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,679
perhaps we have to revisit that at least

928
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:23,359
maybe some signage along it that there's

929
00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:26,079
no overnight parking along the curb um

930
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:27,440
because if they're going to come in and

931
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,359
have to do parking lots a that's going

932
00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:31,119
to be the priority always roads and

933
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,359
parking lots and then pivot to um the

934
00:34:33,359 --> 00:34:35,599
sidewalks along 24 on the front but as

935
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:37,119
well as some of the on the back at least

936
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,119
a swoop down east quadrant along the

937
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:42,079
back. Um it would be better because the

938
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:43,679
goal then with that is to push it into

939
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,119
the parking lot and then come and remove

940
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,919
it from that parking area. Mhm.

941
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,359
>> And when they're trying to do this at

942
00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:51,359
4:00, 5, 6:00 in the morning,

943
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:52,639
>> you know, it it's hard if there's

944
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,520
vehicles in the way. And flip side of it

945
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,960
is true. If somebody comes home at night

946
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,800
and there's nowhere to park

947
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,240
>> but the spot up there along that

948
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,079
sidewalk, well, we're not expecting them

949
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:03,280
to come out at midnight and move their

950
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:03,680
car,

951
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,079
>> right?

952
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,000
When the other place is closed.

953
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,839
So I think we may have to reinvigorate

954
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:12,640
that uh education from that process of

955
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,880
those who live upstairs to make them

956
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,400
understand that that's not allowed to

957
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,320
park along that curb or along the

958
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,680
sidewalk. I mean right behind the

959
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,320
businesses

960
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,160
predominantly for the uh snow removal

961
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,400
issue that's going to be taken taken up.

962
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,920
>> Would that be year round or just during

963
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,599
the winter months where we get snow?

964
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:32,480
>> Well, it's it's

965
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,079
the less deviations I suppose the

966
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:35,280
better. Mhm.

967
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,119
>> And I don't think people mind as much

968
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,280
working back in the summer months.

969
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,280
>> Sure.

970
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,720
>> It it would be a bit of a um not well

971
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:45,839
received perhaps that somebody says,

972
00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:46,880
"Hey, I come home at night. There's

973
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,400
nobody in this lot. I live upstairs. I

974
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,520
parked right here. Now you're telling me

975
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,520
I got to park, you know, 100 ft away if

976
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,640
you're in that northwest lot or

977
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,000
something."

978
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,920
>> Um so they won't love. Now perhaps all

979
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,359
we say is no parking along the curb. We

980
00:35:57,359 --> 00:35:58,960
don't care if they're in the one first

981
00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,599
row back.

982
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:00,480
>> Mhm.

983
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,000
>> Right.

984
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,160
The old process made them, I think, stay

985
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,400
along the very back.

986
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,880
>> I don't think we need to go there. We

987
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,960
just need to ensure that there's nothing

988
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,440
along that back sidewalk cuz if they

989
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,720
come in and do that additional new plen

990
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,359
>> and if if if council doesn't want us to

991
00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:22,720
do that, then it'll be worked around.

992
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,880
>> Um the DPW would prefer to have it like

993
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,240
it used to be where there was no parking

994
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,079
overnight along those back sidewalks. if

995
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:29,200
now that they're going to be responsible

996
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,440
for the cars hanging over a foot into

997
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,680
the, you know, the area perhaps of the

998
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,800
sidewalk that they're supposed to clear

999
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,079
and push them into the parking lot. Now

1000
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,560
they kind of got to go around it or

1001
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,040
>> Yeah. So,

1002
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,079
>> are you saying there is a current

1003
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:41,520
ordinance in place where

1004
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,960
>> I don't know if I'd have to double check

1005
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,599
that. I didn't

1006
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:44,480
>> any local

1007
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,119
>> It was just more of a permit, a local

1008
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:48,800
parking permit that was in place years

1009
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,280
ago.

1010
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:49,839
>> Okay.

1011
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:51,359
>> For upstairs residents,

1012
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:53,680
>> what's the enforcement like of it then?

1013
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,839
At this point there is it's just occur

1014
00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:57,520
like you're just going to ask people not

1015
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,400
to do it.

1016
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,920
>> Well,

1017
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,079
police enforce enforce signage as

1018
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:04,640
written. So if it was signed along there

1019
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,400
would say no no overnight parking in

1020
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,599
these spaces or along the

1021
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,440
>> but there are

1022
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,240
>> it was really just

1023
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:16,160
>> common courtesy But yeah, I wouldn't

1024
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,680
want to have to get into the permits and

1025
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,960
tracking who because people come and go

1026
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,240
and then and they go away and we don't

1027
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,920
know. There could have been 30 people

1028
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,200
moved to the southwest lot this summer

1029
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,240
and I have no idea.

1030
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:24,560
>> Yeah.

1031
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,160
>> The landlord sometimes pays the water

1032
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,440
bills. We don't know people are coming

1033
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,720
and going necessarily. They're supposed

1034
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,400
to update us with a rental ordinance.

1035
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:30,880
>> Yeah.

1036
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,200
>> Right.

1037
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,400
>> Yeah. Mhm.

1038
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,040
>> Um

1039
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,720
>> so you do want to put signs up. Is that

1040
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:35,680
what you're saying? Or

1041
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,200
>> as much as we don't want to overdo

1042
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,040
signage because we already have some

1043
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,720
15-minute here and customer parking

1044
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:44,720
only. I think there's a larger

1045
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,280
conversations with the DDA and DPW

1046
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,880
myself and then of course with council's

1047
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,640
feedback to say how do we want to handle

1048
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,920
this now that we've taken upon

1049
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,160
our plate to do the sidewalk

1050
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,800
>> Mhm.

1051
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,520
>> on the back sides

1052
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,920
that's going to be difficult if there's

1053
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,359
cars parked along there.

1054
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:03,760
>> Yeah.

1055
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,400
>> I mean I suppose you could make it go

1056
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,920
along with you know there no parking on

1057
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,920
village streets during a snow emergency

1058
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,839
anyway. occur would necessarily

1059
00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:16,880
constitute an emergency for plowing

1060
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,000
purposes. I think be difficult to

1061
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,720
decide. So, you know, maybe it is

1062
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,200
something that unfortunately, as much as

1063
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,640
we don't want to, it becomes like a

1064
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,200
December through March kind of

1065
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,960
situation.

1066
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,720
>> Yeah, we have the uh snow season

1067
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:36,480
outlined in our snow removal ordinance.

1068
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Perhaps you would update that ordinance

1069
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,680
or just refer to that or just use the

1070
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,880
same time frame, something along those

1071
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,640
lines. I think we because we allow the

1072
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,200
one notice per season and I think that

1073
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,920
starts maybe November 1st

1074
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,680
>> through March, something like that is in

1075
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,599
their ordinance. That's when you would

1076
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:54,720
get your one um warning if you're not um

1077
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:55,920
shoving your sidewalk.

1078
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,839
>> Yeah. So for practical application of

1079
00:38:57,839 --> 00:39:00,720
this, say you say it's December to March

1080
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,400
or whatever, no parking at the curb and

1081
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,920
there's no snow, so people park at the

1082
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,119
curb. You're not going to come ticket

1083
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,599
them for parking at the curb.

1084
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:11,119
And if they are parked there when you

1085
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:12,079
need to push it off,

1086
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:13,040
>> then they say, "Well, I didn't know it

1087
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,240
was going to snow last night."

1088
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,160
>> Then your the car's still there, right?

1089
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,599
So, and then you take it and you have to

1090
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:19,599
wait for the tow truck to come.

1091
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:19,920
>> Mhm.

1092
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,760
>> So, I don't think we have a definition

1093
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,960
of emergency.

1094
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:23,440
>> No.

1095
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,400
>> And that's and that's

1096
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,400
>> wondering how practically how are we

1097
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,200
going to fix it? Cooperative

1098
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,079
>> people.

1099
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:31,119
>> Yeah.

1100
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:32,880
>> Which come and go. That's that's the

1101
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,000
issue there. So behavior issue that

1102
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,280
>> when we had we we put in the alone to

1103
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,560
wall here on Hudson Street, the brick

1104
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,079
wall that was constantly getting hit cuz

1105
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:43,119
people would back in predominantly

1106
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:44,400
trucks back in and hit it with their

1107
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,480
hips and they roll forward a few inches.

1108
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,760
>> Sometimes we would know who it was and

1109
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,040
we'd be able to subregate against their

1110
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,240
insurance company for the repairs and

1111
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,599
sometimes we weren't able to and it was

1112
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:53,200
a $10,000 repair that our insurance

1113
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,480
company had to pay. Yeah,

1114
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,720
>> that's why we changed those signs to no

1115
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,760
back in parking, you know, pulling in.

1116
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,520
>> And I worked with the police department

1117
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,000
at that time say, you know, this is new,

1118
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,800
give some warnings, you know, to people

1119
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,200
perhaps this would be new for these

1120
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,359
parking people as well, we and perhaps

1121
00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:13,119
they could if this happening during that

1122
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:14,160
time frame, they could give them a

1123
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,839
notice warning

1124
00:40:15,839 --> 00:40:17,200
>> and then one or two warnings and then

1125
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,079
they're getting a ticket.

1126
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,400
>> Mhm. kind of like, you know, when they

1127
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,720
see them no parking, whatever after this

1128
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,119
hour and they go by or this time frame

1129
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:27,359
and they go by and they see them there.

1130
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:28,160
>> Yeah.

1131
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,359
>> They could write them because they're

1132
00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:32,400
violating or disobeying the

1133
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,200
>> the signage.

1134
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,359
>> Mhm.

1135
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:37,920
>> But if it's clear in black and white,

1136
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,880
that helps, right?

1137
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,520
>> No parking law here from November 1

1138
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,480
through

1139
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,400
>> March 31, whatever it is.

1140
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,400
>> Chief, is if there's signage, it's

1141
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,640
enforceable, right? It's it's

1142
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,320
enforcable, but like Joe says, I mean,

1143
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,280
it's it's discretionary. I mean, we'll have a conversation. We'll talk to

1144
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,640
them, make sure we get all on the same

1145
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,720
page. It's it's not about writing as

1146
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,000
many TIS as we can, but getting

1147
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,280
everybody on the same page as far as

1148
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,160
what the signage is for and why it's

1149
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,880
there and what we can do to get the

1150
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,870
situation.

1151
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,760
» Yes.

1152
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,560
>> Any comments, thoughts? Open to whatever

1153
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,000
the suggestion is.

1154
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,200
>> Yeah.

1155
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,599
>> Whatever works best for DPW. Yeah.

1156
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:18,319
>> Yeah.

1157
00:41:18,319 --> 00:41:20,160
>> It's already going to be a challenge

1158
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,480
this year for them to take it on

1159
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,400
>> and then to again managing expectations

1160
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,520
is the biggest challenge,

1161
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,800
>> right?

1162
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,000
>> The physical part of it, the physical

1163
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000
part of it and knowing we we the

1164
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,599
document and and we've worked on I've

1165
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,520
helped with Rudy and stuff as the

1166
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,280
process and the priorities

1167
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,560
>> what they're doing and what they're not

1168
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,520
doing

1169
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,000
>> is is important.

1170
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,319
>> Yeah.

1171
00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:41,520
>> And this is just another part of the

1172
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,280
educating those others up there. And now

1173
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,359
we have um contact information for the

1174
00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:46,560
renters and stuff and we can send them

1175
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,079
notices in the mail too. Please share

1176
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:49,520
this with your tenants.

1177
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,079
>> Yeah.

1178
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:51,680
>> You know, share it with them.

1179
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,040
>> I'm sure the tenants would appreciate

1180
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,440
having it, you know, shovel and cloud

1181
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,119
off too. So maybe they cooperate

1182
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:58,240
naturally. But

1183
00:41:58,240 --> 00:41:59,760
>> could be some good will there.

1184
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,440
>> Yeah. You know, they get up at 7:00 in

1185
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,800
the morning, walk out, and now they can

1186
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,960
actually go out there and get to it.

1187
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,920
>> That would be nice.

1188
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,319
>> Yeah. Again, it's it's a it's a big

1189
00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:09,920
step, I think, to have the DPD step up

1190
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,839
to do this. Obviously that the DDA is

1191
00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:12,800
funding for the equipment and

1192
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,599
everything.

1193
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:15,280
>> Uh and we're

1194
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,640
>> we just got to make sure try to make it

1195
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,480
fire in all cylinders if we can.

1196
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,720
>> Yeah. I I I think it's probably the most

1197
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:22,560
reasonable thing to do all things

1198
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,640
considered if you know

1199
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,359
>> we we we had semi made this decision

1200
00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:28,880
when we decided we were going to plow

1201
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,560
sidewalks anyway.

1202
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,200
>> So you know

1203
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,400
>> we just want to make it better and

1204
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,640
easier for the DPW to do it.

1205
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,680
>> Mhm. And and again, I mean, a lot of

1206
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,839
this is for the residents and for the

1207
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:42,240
business owners down there anyway.

1208
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:42,960
>> So,

1209
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,960
>> well, I think when they see the what's

1210
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,880
happening, it could bring on good

1211
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,920
behavior

1212
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,880
>> to keep it happening easier and easier.

1213
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,000
>> Now, the problem like the only problem I

1214
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,319
see with it is again, somebody rolls in,

1215
00:42:56,319 --> 00:42:57,599
they work somewhere, they roll in at

1216
00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:59,520
10:00 at night, and there are no spots

1217
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,119
except for the ones along the curb.

1218
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,280
>> Yeah, I would be parking there.

1219
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,319
>> I would grab them,

1220
00:43:04,319 --> 00:43:06,720
>> right? what what are they going to do?

1221
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:08,640
>> Right. So,

1222
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,440
>> maybe to some degree there's um the

1223
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,160
police, especially in this new

1224
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,119
>> year,

1225
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:16,160
>> could breeze through there in the

1226
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,640
evening and say, "All right, um this car

1227
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,800
showed up." You know, I know there's

1228
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,400
sometimes just one officer on and they

1229
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,839
can't be

1230
00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:25,200
>> cruising through every parking lot every

1231
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,240
30 minutes,

1232
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:27,920
>> but um a little help on their end will

1233
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,359
help be helpful like they do now. They

1234
00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:31,440
watch the streets for the DPW. when it's

1235
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,280
starts sleeping at 3:00 in the morning,

1236
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,160
they're on the phone with PW.

1237
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,440
A little bit of help on their end will

1238
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,400
help us.

1239
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,160
>> Yeah,

1240
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,880
sounds good.

1241
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,160
>> All right. Just kind of want to get you

1242
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,440
guys. That's kind of where we're leaning

1243
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:43,839
and

1244
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:44,319
>> Mhm.

1245
00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:45,760
>> let you know the who and the why.

1246
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,960
>> Yeah. Whatever makes DPW job easiest.

1247
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,960
>> Yeah. And again, it'll make it better

1248
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,240
for a better because then if somebody

1249
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:55,040
comes out, rolls out at at 8 in the

1250
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,400
morning and then there's this big spot

1251
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,400
missed on the sidewalk, it's wow, they

1252
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,839
didn't do this. Mhm.

1253
00:43:59,839 --> 00:44:01,680
>> Oh, yeah. Mhm.

1254
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,200
>> So, we're just trying to make it better.

1255
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,680
>> Yeah. I'm sure the snow situation will

1256
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,119
be better this year than it has been,

1257
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:09,040
thanks to the TDA figuring it out.

1258
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,440
>> And now, this guarantees it won't snow

1259
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,480
this year.

1260
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,000
>> So, we're cool, right?

1261
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,440
>> Yes.

1262
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,839
>> Hey, if that machine sits in the barn

1263
00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:19,280
over there in the anti-heated barn all

1264
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,680
winter, I think we're all okay with it.

1265
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,599
>> Except for

1266
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,160
>> Exactly. We're good.

1267
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:26,560
>> All right.

1268
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,440
>> Okay. Thank you.

1269
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,400
>> Yeah.

1270
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,680
>> All right. Next up in our new business

1271
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,160
is the veteran's rockw walk. And that

1272
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,720
just looks like um it's just the

1273
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:35,920
insurance.

1274
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,119
>> Yeah. And normally when someone just

1275
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:38,880
rents the park, we we get a simple

1276
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,160
thing, but this, you know, gentleman,

1277
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,319
he's out of state and his his father or

1278
00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:43,520
grandpa was tied into the Veterans

1279
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,400
Memorial in Oran Township or Lake Oran.

1280
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,440
And um I I could tell I'm like, "Okay,

1281
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,400
you probably don't have the insurance

1282
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,680
and stuff, right?" I Well, then let me

1283
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,880
send this to you. And

1284
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,280
>> Mhm.

1285
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,720
>> It's simple. They bre they start in the

1286
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:56,079
morning and then they they hike down

1287
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:57,040
there. And this year actually someone

1288
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,079
want to hike back.

1289
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,079
>> Okay. So before they would hike away and

1290
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:00,960
then someone would pick them up and

1291
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,000
they'd rendevous.

1292
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,400
>> Yeah.

1293
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,359
>> Um and and he's aware and I assured that

1294
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:06,960
the parking how we would prefer them to

1295
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,319
park in our

1296
00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:09,760
>> back lot here off Hudson

1297
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,960
>> so we don't

1298
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,480
>> fill that lot with cars and walk out of

1299
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,440
town.

1300
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,680
>> Perfect.

1301
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,920
>> All right.

1302
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,760
>> I'll make a motion to approve the

1303
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,000
insurance coverage request for the

1304
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,680
veterans work.

1305
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,760
>> Second. Okay. Motion by Ross, seconded

1306
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,560
by Knock. Any discussion? Hearing none.

1307
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,160
All those in favor say I.

1308
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:30,560
>> I.

1309
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,400
Any nays? Motion carries. Um and our

1310
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,760
final new business is the planning

1311
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,280
commission zoning ordinance amendment

1312
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,960
recommendation.

1313
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,040
>> Uh yep. And then council member Knack

1314
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,319
was at the meeting and she went through

1315
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:44,640
this process. Um anything you'd like to

1316
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,359
expound on? Um, you know, I I think at

1317
00:45:47,359 --> 00:45:49,119
the end of the day, we spent a lot of

1318
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,400
time kind of working out, you know,

1319
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,720
looking at all the maps and how things

1320
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,280
are currently zoned and what is, you

1321
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,119
know, what buildings are already there

1322
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,839
and what's potential for, you know, if

1323
00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:03,839
you knock all the buildings down and and

1324
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:07,200
all of the things. And um I I think it's

1325
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,440
more than reasonable as you know

1326
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,880
in some of our thinking on of this was

1327
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,119
the fact that we've already

1328
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:21,119
we haven't had issues trying to get a

1329
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,359
lot of these areas developed, but we're

1330
00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:26,319
not doing ourselves any favors by

1331
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:30,160
currently kind of keeping this zoned as

1332
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,079
it is. It's just it's not a very um it's

1333
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,800
not very friendly to a lot of developers

1334
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,839
and by doing this it isn't substantially

1335
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:42,240
changing you know any part of the plans

1336
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,880
that we have. I just I think it gives us

1337
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,800
a little bit more options.

1338
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,599
>> Um and I and I thought that it was it was an excellent discussion and

1339
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:54,640
they we definitely kind of asked they

1340
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,960
asked a lot of those questions about the

1341
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,200
whatifs a hundred years from now and th

1342
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,200
and those kind of things. So I I think

1343
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,760
that it was is very well put together

1344
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:09,280
and um is it's very reasonable.

1345
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,400
>> Thank you.

1346
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,240
>> So this comes from the planning

1347
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:16,079
commission with a recommendation for

1348
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:17,760
approval

1349
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,240
recognizing only the legislative body

1350
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:24,319
can can do this kind of zoning work.

1351
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:26,800
>> Right. And you know, and I think a lot

1352
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,119
of the concern was, you know, all of a

1353
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,599
sudden we're going to have

1354
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:34,560
>> threestory towering buildings.

1355
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,319
>> Um, and I can understand the concern

1356
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:40,480
about it, but you know, as it stands

1357
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,160
now, we already, you know, it's I I

1358
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,920
think it wouldn't be that substantially

1359
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,200
different than what we're doing. We're

1360
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,359
not looking for like a downtown Royal

1361
00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:52,079
Oak with eight five stories, eight

1362
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,480
stories. So, um I don't think it's very

1363
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,880
different. Plus, one of the issues that

1364
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,760
we also, you know, people really a lot

1365
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,000
of developers and those we're running

1366
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,079
into is, you know, if we have these

1367
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:05,920
certain requirements, well, where are

1368
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,200
people going to park?

1369
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,520
>> And if you're pretty much eating up all

1370
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,839
of the parking on the first floor,

1371
00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:12,800
>> what are you going to you're going to

1372
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,560
have a one, you know, a a one floor, you

1373
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,359
know, a a onelevel condo or something?

1374
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:21,520
And it just it makes it very difficult.

1375
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,240
So, It's like well I you know at the end

1376
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,160
of the day that that kind of makes a lot

1377
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,359
of sense.

1378
00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:27,839
>> Y

1379
00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:29,599
>> so

1380
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:34,309
I don't

1381
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:37,520
» and again this this change is with um

1382
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,520
restricted to the form based co overlay

1383
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,440
district which is shown on that map.

1384
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,200
>> Obviously the rest it doesn't there's

1385
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,760
other areas RM zoning um where the

1386
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,200
condos are and where the apartments are

1387
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,280
in South Pontiac that aren't affected by

1388
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:49,839
this.

1389
00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:52,079
>> Right.

1390
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,720
But a lot of this is really like the

1391
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:56,960
majority of this RM it's already

1392
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,880
developed. Like if you if you start to

1393
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,200
overlay it onto a map,

1394
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,800
>> it's very small. Like you're talking

1395
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,480
about like over by the post office,

1396
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:04,960
>> right?

1397
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,680
>> Like there's nothing there anyway. And

1398
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,440
it's

1399
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,520
um so I I think it's I can't remember. I

1400
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,359
think they do you remember what they

1401
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:17,839
said like it what it was like 2 acres or

1402
00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:19,920
something of property that potentially

1403
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,680
could be developed right now.

1404
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,480
>> Um I don't remember that number it on

1405
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,440
the vacant part. I think I think the

1406
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,960
Hampton block property which is actually

1407
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,680
three different parcels um is more than

1408
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,960
two but that that's one of the large

1409
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,480
ones again the layout of it and then the

1410
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,079
adjacent one to it the old railroad

1411
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:39,839
grade portion long and narrow it very

1412
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:41,119
difficult they really need to combine

1413
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:42,800
them in our master plan those are

1414
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,040
combined development those two uh on the

1415
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,160
east side there

1416
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,000
>> which would make best to try to develop

1417
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,680
them separately it' be tough because

1418
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,640
you're setbacks stuff like that but we

1419
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,800
can nevertheless um they they uh with

1420
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,480
parking area and surface area being

1421
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,119
limited.

1422
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:57,520
>> Mhm.

1423
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,720
>> They need to maybe put some parking

1424
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:01,280
underneath on the on the base floor and

1425
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,640
then your second and third then become

1426
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,760
your livable space,

1427
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:04,480
>> right?

1428
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,240
>> And then all the C1 transition and

1429
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,680
stuff. We do allow three stories

1430
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,319
already.

1431
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:09,839
>> Mhm. So,

1432
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:11,760
>> okay. I'll make a motion to approve the

1433
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,599
proposed amendment to section 342 of the

1434
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:16,319
zoning ordinance um as recommended by

1435
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:19,520
the planning commission.

1436
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:20,480
>> Second. Okay.

1437
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,960
>> Motion by Cook, seconded by Knock. Any

1438
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,400
discussion from councel?

1439
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,119
Council member Ross is pondering this.

1440
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:30,319
Okay.

1441
00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:30,800
>> Roll call.

1442
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,280
>> Thank you.

1443
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,359
>> All right. Roll call vote, please.

1444
00:50:33,359 --> 00:50:34,079
>> Knock.

1445
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:34,559
>> Yes.

1446
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:35,200
>> Cook.

1447
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,000
>> Yes.

1448
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,559
>> Ross,

1449
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:37,760
>> yes.

1450
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,440
>> All right. Motion carries. That is

1451
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,079
approved. There are no items removed

1452
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:43,520
from the consent agenda. So, we'll move

1453
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,200
to our second instance of public

1454
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,040
comments. If anyone would like to speak

1455
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,040
to councel at this time. Now is your

1456
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,440
second and final opportunity this

1457
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,680
evening.

1458
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,319
>> Chief,

1459
00:50:56,319 --> 00:51:00,230
>> I don't know about that.

1460
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,960
» Yeah, that's tough.

1461
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,599
>> Um, talk about the ebikes. Oh, good

1462
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:09,599
evening everybody. Talk about the ebikes tonight. I mean,

1463
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:11,680
our biggest concern with as the police

1464
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,319
is that ebikes is is so popular right

1465
00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:16,960
now. You've got a few out there right

1466
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,400
now and you're going to have a lot more

1467
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,920
and we're going to have all these bikes

1468
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,359
on these sidewalks where folks are

1469
00:51:21,359 --> 00:51:22,880
trying to walk. I understand like I

1470
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,240
listen to the folks that talked here

1471
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:25,920
tonight about well it gives them the

1472
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,240
ampage to get up and get going. I don't

1473
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:29,599
know if we really want all that traffic

1474
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,359
on our sidewalks. I certainly don't want

1475
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:33,680
them on the roads either. The law does

1476
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,440
state ebikes are legal in the state of

1477
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,880
Michigan as long as they have fully

1478
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,960
operational pedals, a seat saddle,

1479
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,119
electric motor of no more than 750

1480
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:43,040
watts. And I looked up what watts are.

1481
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,520
That means 20 to 28 miles per hour.

1482
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,400
That's pretty fast in a sidewalk. Um,

1483
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,400
but using how they what they were

1484
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,400
mentioning in our audience today, I get

1485
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,839
how that gets them up there and I hate

1486
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:56,000
to take take that away from those folks,

1487
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,440
but I'm just worried about the increased

1488
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,119
traffic as the popularity grows with

1489
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,280
these ebikes on these sidewalks.

1490
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,280
certainly a fan of the the not having

1491
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,920
the ebikes downtown with our folks uh

1492
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,520
coming out in and out of businesses and

1493
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,280
the sidewalks downtown. Um growing up in

1494
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,839
my 33 years as a police officer, it was

1495
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:15,760
never allowed no motorized vehicle on a

1496
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,119
sidewalk period unless it was a

1497
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:20,079
wheelchair. That was it. Um but times

1498
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:22,400
are changing. So

1499
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,520
just as the police department, we want

1500
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,720
to make sure that whatever we're doing

1501
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,480
that we're doing fair for everybody. So,

1502
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,480
we want to take it away from everybody,

1503
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,559
but we also have to be smart about it

1504
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,359
and have something for us to to give us

1505
00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:35,839
some kind of a T just to kind of enforce

1506
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:37,440
that if we can. But that's where we have

1507
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,599
the discretion.

1508
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:40,880
We're we're looking for the ones that

1509
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,040
are, you know, they're doing the

1510
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,880
wheelies or doing the 360s on the

1511
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,000
wheels. And a lot of times those aren't

1512
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,079
ebikes. Those are little motorcycles or

1513
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:49,520
scooters, whatever they have. And those

1514
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,800
are a different classification. And

1515
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,920
those are different. That's

1516
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,280
automatically against the law. You can't

1517
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,760
do that. So, um, it reminds me of the

1518
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,520
skateboard rule that we had downtown

1519
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,960
when we had such an issue with the

1520
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,040
skateboards downtown. We couldn't figure

1521
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,599
out a way to, we don't want to take a

1522
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:05,280
skateboard away from Johnny because he's

1523
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,640
just having a good time and he's

1524
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,319
innocent. He's not Well, what they're

1525
00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:10,000
doing is they're jumping off property.

1526
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,680
They're shaving concrete. They're doing

1527
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,880
damage to property. They are impeding

1528
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,119
other people's, you know, want to just

1529
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:18,559
hang out in the park and not have all

1530
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:20,800
these skateboards jumping around. So, we

1531
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,319
had to come up with an ordinance. We had

1532
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:24,720
to come up with some teeth to give us

1533
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:26,079
something to say, "All right, hey,

1534
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:27,359
listen. This is the rule. You're not

1535
00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:28,640
going to listen. We're going to take the

1536
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,119
skateboard. Have your mom and dad bring

1537
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:32,960
you to the station. Here's your

1538
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,880
skateboard back. Here's a copy of the

1539
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,960
ordinance. Please don't do that again.

1540
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,800
And these are the reasons why. We're not

1541
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,559
just trying to be the we don't take the

1542
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:42,160
toy away and be the big bad police."

1543
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,599
It's just there's reasons why we're

1544
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:45,599
doing what we're doing. And it's not

1545
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:46,960
just to keep people safe, but it's also

1546
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,040
to keep, you know, the peace and

1547
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,640
property for other folks that are around

1548
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,800
you as well. So, um, and we are looking

1549
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,800
at that and all it takes is for us to

1550
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,880
take one of these ebikes and set an

1551
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,440
example and word will start getting out.

1552
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,280
Um, they are that these things can go

1553
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,119
where we can. My officers are telling

1554
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:05,760
me, chief, I went after one today and he

1555
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,359
went down a trailer, stopped, flipped me

1556
00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:08,720
off, pulled his pants down, and gave me

1557
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:11,200
the moon.

1558
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,119
Okay, well, that's not appropriate.

1559
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:15,680
Let's not do that. But I also I worry

1560
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,280
about the safety of our officers and the

1561
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,640
kids too. If we're trying to chase after

1562
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,160
these kids, we go after them in places

1563
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,119
we can't go. So

1564
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:24,640
>> we need to determine where these kids

1565
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,000
are coming from. There are communities

1566
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,559
violations. Go knock on their door and

1567
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:31,440
have a conversation. Um and you let them

1568
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,720
know that they are breaking the law.

1569
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:34,000
This is the rule. This is why we're

1570
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,200
doing what we're doing. And you have to

1571
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,559
stay safe doing that. And running from

1572
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,800
the police is certainly automatically

1573
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,119
against the law. Can't do that. And that

1574
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:42,559
will be a hard lesson for somebody to

1575
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:45,200
learn if we do catch them. So let's hope

1576
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,440
that that's not the case. But we need to

1577
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,839
send a message. We need something to

1578
00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:51,520
work with

1579
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,200
and

1580
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,839
we need to change what's done.

1581
00:54:55,839 --> 00:54:56,319
>> Thank you.

1582
00:54:56,319 --> 00:54:58,079
>> Madam President, can I ask can I ask him

1583
00:54:58,079 --> 00:54:58,640
one question?

1584
00:54:58,640 --> 00:54:59,040
>> Yeah.

1585
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,559
>> Can you when you get a chance, can you

1586
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:02,319
read the current version? I know you

1587
00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:04,000
have because you were paraphrasing from

1588
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,440
it. just maybe be ready to tell us if

1589
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,359
you think it's a fair and balanced

1590
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:11,760
approach to the issue. We're not trying

1591
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,280
to create an ordinance that is

1592
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,400
overreaching.

1593
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,920
>> Sure. Yeah. We don't want that either.

1594
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,079
>> Most of it most of it we you know we

1595
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:21,280
took from state law and the definition

1596
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,200
that you rang is, you know, first

1597
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,880
provision of our ordinance,

1598
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,040
>> what what constitutes an ebike and then

1599
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,200
we took the classes of ebikes right out

1600
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,800
of the state law.

1601
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,200
>> The helmet definition, it's all it's

1602
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,680
already We're just embodying it. But but

1603
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,960
it would be good to know if you think

1604
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,319
this is a fair and balanced approach.

1605
00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:41,680
>> Oh, I absolutely think it's fair and

1606
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,800
that and that's where we come with

1607
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,680
discretion. Um if somebody is using that

1608
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,400
to help them get across the street or

1609
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,839
they're using that device, I mean that

1610
00:55:49,839 --> 00:55:50,960
that's a whole different thing. You're

1611
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,400
not doing wheelies and you're not doing

1612
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,960
360s. You're you're using a device that

1613
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,000
was made to help um escort you or move

1614
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,280
you from one place to another. So that's

1615
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,720
where the discretionary comes in on our

1616
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:02,960
end.

1617
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,960
>> Yes. In your ability to impound, we we

1618
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,880
made it a May standard. It's you don't

1619
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,559
it's not a shall standard.

1620
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:10,960
>> No, not at all. You may conversation as

1621
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,880
far as why we're out there, why

1622
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,799
>> why we have these rules because of, you

1623
00:56:14,799 --> 00:56:16,240
know, trying to keep people safe. We're

1624
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:17,920
trying to keep as much traffic off the

1625
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,240
sidewalks as possible. So, and it's just

1626
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:21,680
and it's going to increase and you're

1627
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,280
going to have a lot of it. So, if we

1628
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,640
don't come up with something now to help

1629
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:30,319
us help try to um keep it under control,

1630
00:56:30,319 --> 00:56:33,119
um then I think it's going to get worse.

1631
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:33,520
>> Okay.

1632
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,359
>> But it's not just the ebikers either.

1633
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:37,040
It's it's we talked about it as far as

1634
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,079
the

1635
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:39,839
>> the other little scooters and things. I

1636
00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:41,440
mean, I had a conversation just I mean I

1637
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,680
live here in town, too. and and uh my

1638
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,160
neighbor had that conversation with him

1639
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,319
the other day because I was coming home

1640
00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:51,119
down Pleasant Street and these two kids,

1641
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:52,720
one was on one of those standup scooters

1642
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:54,880
and another one was on a little green

1643
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,440
minibike. They zoomed right through the

1644
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,960
stop sign at Dayton and Pleasant right

1645
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,319
in front of me. I'm in my regular car.

1646
00:57:00,319 --> 00:57:03,839
I'm going home from work. I'm like, um

1647
00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:06,319
and then then they get up to First

1648
00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:08,240
Street and they blow that stop sign to

1649
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,400
go down First Street at the end of

1650
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,640
Pleasant Street. So, and I'm like, I

1651
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,280
know that that's my neighbor kid. Okay.

1652
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,559
Oh, that's the kid across the street.

1653
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:17,520
Okay. All right. I need to have a

1654
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,440
conversation. Guys, you cannot do that.

1655
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,119
You cannot just So, I went and had a

1656
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:22,400
conversation with with the dad and I

1657
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,520
said, "Hey, listen. Oh, I'm keeping an

1658
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,839
eye on them. They're just having fun."

1659
00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:28,160
No, guys. No. They You think they're

1660
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,119
having fun, but they're going to go

1661
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:30,319
around the corner here. They're running

1662
00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:31,680
stop signs. Somebody's going to run them

1663
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,880
over, and it's not going to be fun

1664
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,400
anymore. So,

1665
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,880
>> it starts at home, too. a lot of these a

1666
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,079
lot of the parents and folks need to

1667
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:39,920
have these conversations

1668
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,440
>> um knowing what they're letting their

1669
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,799
kids go out there and do. And like I

1670
00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:44,079
said, it's not just the ebikes, it's the

1671
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:45,520
other bikes, too. So,

1672
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,559
>> um and we are out there trying to

1673
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:48,079
enforce. We're doing the best we can as

1674
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:50,319
safe as we can to try to get the message

1675
00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:54,880
out. It's why we we embodied in here the

1676
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,640
infraction against the parents or the

1677
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,799
guardians, not necessarily those who are

1678
00:57:58,799 --> 00:58:00,319
underage

1679
00:58:00,319 --> 00:58:02,880
um for allowing this uh knowingly

1680
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,119
allowing it to happen

1681
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:06,880
>> because you you can't your civil

1682
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,640
infraction rights against a 15-year-old

1683
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,160
are pretty limited,

1684
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:10,960
>> right?

1685
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,359
>> And the main thing is is, you know, we

1686
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:15,040
can write tickets, we can we want to

1687
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,079
have conversations, we want to have

1688
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:17,359
talks with the parents, hey, listen,

1689
00:58:17,359 --> 00:58:19,200
this is what's going on. This is why.

1690
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,880
So, let's get this under control. If

1691
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,640
not, somebody's going to get hurt or

1692
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,480
somebody's going to get a citation. We

1693
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,160
don't want that. We just want you to,

1694
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,440
you know, go have your fun, but you got

1695
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,440
to be responsible.

1696
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,680
>> Good. Thank you, Chief.

1697
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,799
>> Thank you so much.

1698
00:58:32,799 --> 00:58:38,390
>> Thank you, Madam President, for

1699
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,200
» Hi, everyone.

1700
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,920
>> Good evening. I'm Sarah Travis. I am a

1701
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,480
resident of the like direct downtown. I

1702
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,079
live above one of the, you know, where

1703
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:47,599
the shops and the restaurants are. So,

1704
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:47,920
okay.

1705
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,599
>> I just wanted to touch on a couple of

1706
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:51,359
things. Um, the first I wasn't even

1707
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:53,200
planning to talk about, but uh I know

1708
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,280
Kimberly was up here talking about the

1709
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,000
um signage for the trail and as someone

1710
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,160
who walks her dog around downtown every

1711
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,680
day, I see so many res residents um and

1712
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,480
people that are visiting that um have no

1713
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,799
idea where the trail is at. So, I know

1714
00:59:08,799 --> 00:59:10,640
from my anecdotal evidence that that

1715
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,720
would be appreciated by um a lot of

1716
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,079
people in our community just because I

1717
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:15,680
don't know where the heck they're going.

1718
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,599
Um, but also I wanted to uh just show my

1719
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:21,839
appreciation as a resident of downtown

1720
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:24,400
regarding the no overnights for snow

1721
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,160
removal and everything like that. I

1722
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,520
think that you guys touched on a lot of

1723
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,119
the things that I was concerned about

1724
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:33,040
which is we are no strangers to

1725
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,599
difficulty with the parking situation.

1726
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:37,359
There's not a lot of space, especially

1727
00:59:37,359 --> 00:59:39,440
when on Fridays, Saturdays, you know,

1728
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,920
Thursdays even when the bars are full,

1729
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,359
the restaurants are full, and we're

1730
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:45,520
coming home and we're we like we're just

1731
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,480
doing our best trying to park. And yes,

1732
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,960
do we park overnight on the curb? 100%

1733
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,079
because that's the spot that's

1734
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:53,760
available, and I'm not trying to walk,

1735
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,640
you know, like forever just to get to my

1736
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,520
house. But um I just wanted to uh to to

1737
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:09,520
give my um my own uh concern about a

1738
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,520
ordinance or uh um some kind of uh

1739
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,280
signage that would be like all year

1740
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,440
round just because I know that that

1741
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,799
might be difficult um systematically to

1742
01:00:20,799 --> 01:00:22,880
impose like okay no overnight parking

1743
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,720
like during snowstorms like how are you

1744
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,839
guys going to be able to do that? I

1745
01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:28,559
totally understand that. But on normal

1746
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:30,480
days where the snow is not a concern to

1747
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,680
be able to, you know, go home without

1748
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,200
worrying about getting a ticket in the

1749
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,920
morning, you know, I just that's my only

1750
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,880
concern as as a resident. Obviously,

1751
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,920
we know I think most of us residents are

1752
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,720
trying our best not to block, you know,

1753
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,640
the access to the shops and the

1754
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,920
businesses and the restaurants and

1755
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,480
everything like that, but just for when

1756
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,160
those uh those busy moments happen to be

1757
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,119
able to not have to worry about, you

1758
01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:00,640
know, dreading walking to the car and

1759
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,559
see if there's a ticket there. um on a

1760
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:05,599
day where there's no snow or you know no

1761
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:07,599
concerns with snow plows or anything

1762
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:09,920
like that. Obviously I know the plows

1763
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,440
got to come through and the snow's got

1764
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,599
to get taken care of and we appreciate

1765
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:15,760
that too. So that's another story but I

1766
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,280
just don't want it to be the random day

1767
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,200
where snow's not a concern and we're

1768
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,200
coming out there and we got you know

1769
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,799
some issues. So yeah,

1770
01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:23,760
>> thank you very much.

1771
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,200
>> Yeah, thank you so much for sharing your

1772
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:31,910
perspective and comments.

1773
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,040
Hi everyone.

1774
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,000
>> Good evening.

1775
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,079
>> I'm also a resident of the direct down.

1776
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:37,440
Tommy and Sarah live in the same

1777
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,480
building. Awesome.

1778
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,599
>> Um I just again wanted to say that I'm

1779
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:44,640
appreciative of everyone's input on that

1780
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,799
because like Sarah said, we had talked

1781
01:01:46,799 --> 01:01:49,280
about this before and there we had some

1782
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,079
concerns, but I think that everyone is

1783
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:55,119
taking those into consideration. Um, I

1784
01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:57,280
do think that most residents are going

1785
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,359
to be psyched about having snow roof.

1786
01:02:01,359 --> 01:02:04,480
Um, so I I do think just talking to the

1787
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:05,839
business owners, making sure that

1788
01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:07,599
residents actually get like that

1789
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:09,040
information that this is what's going to

1790
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:14,079
be going on is going to be half of the

1791
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:16,400
battle is going to be done for you. So,

1792
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,599
um, uh, but I do know not everyone has

1793
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:22,559
social media. not everyone is out there,

1794
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:23,839
you know, see that these things are

1795
01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:26,480
going to be on the on the minutes or,

1796
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,240
you know, on the schedule. So, um

1797
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,760
I just want to make sure that those

1798
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,520
people are, you know, in the know about

1799
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,960
it. Um I think that that's all that I

1800
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,559
really wanted to.

1801
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:38,960
>> Yeah.

1802
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,799
>> No, that's great. Thank you so much.

1803
01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:42,079
Thank you for sitting through this whole

1804
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:45,280
meeting to share your perspective, too.

1805
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,559
>> Amen.

1806
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:50,480
So, I I think maybe um

1807
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,640
maybe we look into using uh our text

1808
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,440
messaging app for something like this

1809
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:58,880
>> perhaps. And again, we we have the

1810
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,720
addresses of all those locations

1811
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,359
downtown. And not only would we notify

1812
01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:05,680
the building owner or the apartment

1813
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,359
owner, we can send directly to that

1814
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:08,880
address as far as, hey, here's a new

1815
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,240
rule, here's what's coming on, here's

1816
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,240
what's about to happen come this winter,

1817
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,640
and things like that. So at least on on

1818
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,160
the front end of it, we can at least get

1819
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,839
it aware the awareness out there.

1820
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:19,760
>> I think that would maybe make them feel,

1821
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,760
you know, a little bit better about,

1822
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:22,640
hey,

1823
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,960
>> you know, we're plowing tonight

1824
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,039
>> kind of kind of thing.

1825
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:28,880
would be a pain, but the night

1826
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,559
>> if you want like one of those things if

1827
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:31,920
you want to opt in,

1828
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,240
>> I think it would be nice to have that

1829
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,520
because I also think that that would

1830
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,559
also be nice for res village residents

1831
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:41,039
that aren't necessarily only in downtown

1832
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:43,200
to be like, hey, I should not be parking

1833
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,160
on the street today.

1834
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:44,880
>> Mhm.

1835
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,000
>> And and I I don't know if it's possible.

1836
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,359
>> I'm leaning towards No.

1837
01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:51,760
>> Let's let's move it. Let's try no.

1838
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:52,880
>> Joe doesn't want to be up in the middle

1839
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:53,839
of the night texting.

1840
01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:56,400
>> Well, again, I don't know what

1841
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:01,510
the DPW gets up and

1842
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,079
» so maybe maybe if that's something that

1843
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:05,359
you know because I actually think having

1844
01:04:05,359 --> 01:04:08,000
a communitywide text message

1845
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,280
>> not necessarily a reply all chain but

1846
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,200
you know maybe we could see if there's

1847
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,640
something that we could do because it's

1848
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,160
just in general I think it would be

1849
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,200
helpful. Yeah,

1850
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,640
>> I would just like to say that that's a

1851
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,160
wonderful idea and we have the

1852
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:23,839
technology and I think that that would

1853
01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:24,960
be helpful for everybody

1854
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,480
>> and I do have the mass text program. I

1855
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:27,599
used it today just briefing with you

1856
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:28,960
guys because rather than because I

1857
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:29,920
didn't know if you would see your email

1858
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:30,960
right before the meeting so I thought

1859
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,720
well I'll send out in a text and it was

1860
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,960
fighting me on the side we're working

1861
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,960
>> but yeah I used it through the some of

1862
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,400
the construction projects mostly because

1863
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,240
it's it's contained right to those on

1864
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:41,920
that block or those two blocks whatever.

1865
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,640
Um, and I I my goal is always to expand

1866
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,359
it out for other uses and and

1867
01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:49,520
this would be one of those uh needs or

1868
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,920
uses that it was kind of meant for. I've

1869
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,000
always maintained that it's not a social

1870
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,000
media thing. It's not a marketing thing.

1871
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:56,960
It's if you're hearing from us, it's

1872
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,240
because you need to,

1873
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,680
>> you know, there's a waterline break or

1874
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,200
there's a, you know, paving project

1875
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,559
going right for your home for the next

1876
01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:03,920
month, you know, and then keep you

1877
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,359
updated on those kind of things. This

1878
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:07,039
would be fall in that vein.

1879
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:09,039
>> For those limited folks in the downtown,

1880
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:10,559
again, it's hard for me to say 11:00.

1881
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:11,760
Well, they say it's going to snow at 2

1882
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,119
in the morning

1883
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:14,160
>> and then you wake up tomorrow morning,

1884
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:14,799
there's none.

1885
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:17,440
>> When when he, you know, when Rudy sends

1886
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,000
out the plow, you know, if if that's

1887
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,440
possible, I don't know.

1888
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,520
>> Well, and perhaps um I'm the only one

1889
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,119
who has access to the program now. I

1890
01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:26,480
could sure get him login information to

1891
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,720
do it, but that's one more thing's plate

1892
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,319
on a stormy stormy night.

1893
01:05:30,319 --> 01:05:32,240
>> That's the last thing he's going to be.

1894
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,559
>> But if he doesn't if he doesn't have to

1895
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:35,760
>> move,

1896
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,520
>> that's a that's a benefit. That's a

1897
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:38,160
benefit.

1898
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,319
>> Yeah. I'm still trying to figure out if

1899
01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:43,280
psyched is a good thing or bad. It's a

1900
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:43,920
good thing.

1901
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,520
>> Psych. Not psyched. Psyched.

1902
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,400
>> Okay. Psych.

1903
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,240
>> Psych. Not psycho. Okay.

1904
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,039
>> All right.

1905
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:51,440
Any other public comments?

1906
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,599
>> Yes.

1907
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:54,799
>> I was going to introduce you and make

1908
01:05:54,799 --> 01:05:56,640
some comments. This is Mr. Paul Tonio

1909
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,920
from Community Disposal.

1910
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,680
>> Yeah. Hello again.

1911
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,440
>> Hi. I was here

1912
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:02,720
>> last week or before.

1913
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,640
>> Yeah.

1914
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,960
>> Just wanted to let you know we're still

1915
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,000
on standby here. Um I wasn't sure if you

1916
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,160
had had feedback from priority after

1917
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:13,760
sending him the letter.

1918
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,200
>> That was our feedback tonight. So

1919
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,880
>> they were here before they you they were

1920
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,559
here before you they arrived.

1921
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:19,119
>> Yeah.

1922
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:24,240
>> Okay. So u I guess

1923
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,079
I talk to you after the meeting and find

1924
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:27,359
out exactly.

1925
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:28,559
>> Yep.

1926
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:29,599
>> Yeah.

1927
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:31,280
Be happy to chat with you.

1928
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,720
>> Yeah. Thanks for attending this evening.

1929
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,440
We appreciate

1930
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,480
All right. All right, we'll move on to

1931
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,000
our committee reports if there's no

1932
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,559
other public comment.

1933
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:42,079
Um, not

1934
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:44,000
>> um, that would be Allison and she wasn't

1935
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,799
there and I will start I will be

1936
01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:48,079
attending those again.

1937
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:48,720
>> You will

1938
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,839
>> later this month.

1939
01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:50,960
>> Great. Thank you.

1940
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,039
>> Golf season's over.

1941
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:54,960
>> Anything else from planning commission?

1942
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,839
>> Um, we did uh we did approve uh site

1943
01:06:59,839 --> 01:07:03,839
plan. We did our site plan for 10001

1944
01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:06,559
Industrial or somewhere on Glassby,

1945
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:08,319
whatever the address is.

1946
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:09,359
>> Um,

1947
01:07:09,359 --> 01:07:10,880
>> it's a weird situation.

1948
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,960
>> And um it

1949
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,119
>> it's it's the it's the corner. It's the

1950
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:16,880
corner. And they kind of have their own

1951
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,119
address. They kind of don't. But long

1952
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:21,839
story short, we um we we approved the

1953
01:07:21,839 --> 01:07:31,280
plan that you know, I think that um we talked about, you know, um

1954
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,000
the things that we're requiring besid

1955
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,680
that that um the village could do

1956
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,200
administratively,

1957
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,280
including like a landscape plan and a

1958
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,839
lighting plan and maybe working on like

1959
01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:44,799
some shielding of, you know, those kind

1960
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:47,440
of things. So, I think it went I I think

1961
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,160
it went very well. Um

1962
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,319
uh I think one of the one of the

1963
01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:56,160
concerns that was brought up was um

1964
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,920
sidewalks.

1965
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,760
Um after doing a little Google earthing,

1966
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,280
um it made it it did make sense for us

1967
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,480
to not necessarily have to have them put

1968
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,280
in a sidewalk just because the sidewalk

1969
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,839
would is would is it would actually be

1970
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:15,599
on

1971
01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:16,960
the southside at that point.

1972
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,040
>> Yes. Where it's it just wouldn't have

1973
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,279
any continuation because it's all coming

1974
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:24,000
down like from scriptor and it stops and

1975
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,440
in theory if you were going to continue

1976
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:27,440
the sidewalk, you wouldn't cross the

1977
01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:30,080
street to do the south side. You would

1978
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,440
just continue over there. So, um,

1979
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:34,880
>> that's why we kind of made the decision

1980
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,120
that it it didn't really make sense, but

1981
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,520
if necessary, if you absolutely wanted

1982
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,520
to put a sidewalk, we could, but we just

1983
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,040
didn't feel like it was something that

1984
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,799
was necessary that was going to be, you

1985
01:08:44,799 --> 01:08:48,400
know, kind of uh a make or break for

1986
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,159
this. Um, but, uh, I I think it's it's

1987
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:54,159
going to be an improvement. They're

1988
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:56,239
really looking forward to doing that. I

1989
01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:58,400
mean, you know, the nice thing is that,

1990
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,880
you know, the the current business owner

1991
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,839
is able to rent out this new space so we

1992
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:06,319
can have more jobs and they can expand.

1993
01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:08,719
So, I I think it's it's a win-win

1994
01:09:08,719 --> 01:09:10,880
between having new, you know, nice new

1995
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,199
development and buildings and letting

1996
01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:15,759
these businesses grow. Um,

1997
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:17,440
it worked out really well. So,

1998
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:18,239
>> great.

1999
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:19,759
>> Thank you.

2000
01:09:19,759 --> 01:09:21,600
>> Um, the planning commission is a really

2001
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,520
great group. I watched the most recent

2002
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,759
video of your meeting. Um, and I think

2003
01:09:25,759 --> 01:09:28,080
we're still one member short, right? Um,

2004
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,279
we just had a reputation.

2005
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:30,480
>> Yeah. The day of the meeting, we finally

2006
01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:32,719
got something in writing.

2007
01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:34,080
>> Yeah. So, if anyone would like to join

2008
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,520
our village planning commission, please

2009
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,880
reach out to me. We would love

2010
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,920
>> signs. You like signs?

2011
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,520
>> It's a really great It's a really great

2012
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,880
commission to be part of.

2013
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,159
>> And if I may,

2014
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:46,080
>> the the the Planning Ending Act requires

2015
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,000
a five, seven, or nine member board. We

2016
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,000
currently have seven. Well, no, six with

2017
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:50,719
a vacancy.

2018
01:09:50,719 --> 01:09:53,279
>> Mhm. As difficult as it is, you could go

2019
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:55,600
to five down there. Now, if somebody was

2020
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,199
tour was coming up and then they didn't,

2021
01:09:57,199 --> 01:09:58,159
you know, they were on the fence of

2022
01:09:58,159 --> 01:09:59,600
renewal or again, right?

2023
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,520
>> Um because it is tough. We asked a lot

2024
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,040
of them. They have to learn a lot and we

2025
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,719
pay them right over right about zero, I

2026
01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:07,679
think, is

2027
01:10:07,679 --> 01:10:10,640
>> for as many as up to 24 meetings a year.

2028
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,120
Uh we never really have that many, but

2029
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,960
>> it's a lot to ask. So,

2030
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,239
>> yeah, I served on the planning

2031
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:17,600
commission for a year before I joined

2032
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:18,880
village council and it was a great

2033
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,480
experience. So

2034
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:22,159
>> we have some great members on there

2035
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:23,520
right now.

2036
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,480
>> That's a good

2037
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:26,800
>> quite the quite the learning curve.

2038
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,480
>> You're doing great.

2039
01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:29,679
>> Just an account.

2040
01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:32,239
>> That's why we need you.

2041
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:34,000
>> Uh cable commission. Have we heard

2042
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,440
anything? Okay. And then the DDA

2043
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:38,080
actually

2044
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,159
>> I was not able to attend. Kimberly, any

2045
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:45,910
updates?

2046
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,560
» Just a couple quick things. Um we are in

2047
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:53,120
the deep end of events for the year. So

2048
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:54,800
if we're looking a little frazzled,

2049
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,320
that's probably why. Um in August we did

2050
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,120
partner with Parks and Wreck for a DIA

2051
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,600
bus tour and that was very successful. I

2052
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:04,800
heard it went really well. They had

2053
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,040
about 35 people that attended so it was

2054
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,840
very positive. Um we also partnered with

2055
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,960
them on the senior citizens day uh which

2056
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,400
the event they had in the park. We've

2057
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,199
also partnered with Lake Orian as well.

2058
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:20,320
Um this Saturday we have our art and

2059
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,600
wine stroll. So the DIA um installation

2060
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,000
will be coming out or being removed in

2061
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,960
October. So we're trying to do one kind

2062
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,960
of activity per month to help support it

2063
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,960
while it's still here. So we've

2064
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,560
partnered with Whimsy and she's

2065
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,040
collected a bunch of local artists and

2066
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,400
we have 10 different locations of art.

2067
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,560
uh four restaurants have participated in

2068
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,880
the wine tasting portion of it and then

2069
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,800
the DIA will have a dosent there to do

2070
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,440
walking tours. So, Whimsy will also have

2071
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:52,719
some uh live demonstrations in the park.

2072
01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:54,000
There's going to be a chalk art contest.

2073
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,600
It's going to be a really cool activity

2074
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,120
and the weather looks beautiful for

2075
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,679
Saturday. So, it should be wonderful. Um

2076
01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:01,840
we have our downtown decorating day

2077
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,040
scheduled for next week. So,

2078
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,159
everything's going to be flipping over

2079
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:07,520
from summer to fall. Um and also scare

2080
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,040
profess we talked about earlier is on

2081
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,120
the third. The only other port other

2082
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,239
thing that we wanted to talk about was

2083
01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:14,800
the dactics program. Um that was

2084
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,040
approved at the last meeting to uh move

2085
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,000
forward with ordering those uh which we

2086
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,199
have done. We walked around with the um

2087
01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:26,000
sign company and we've uh kind of marked

2088
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,360
out where each of those signs are going

2089
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,320
to be installed and we're hoping to have

2090
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,120
them installed mid to late September and

2091
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,199
having some sort of unveiling ceremony.

2092
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:37,120
So, there'll be some sort of like cover

2093
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,360
on the front of them so you can't see

2094
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,000
what's underneath.

2095
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,800
I hope you're excited about that.

2096
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,400
>> I'm excited.

2097
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:47,760
>> No, I'm very excited.

2098
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,480
>> I was like started by a project.

2099
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:53,520
>> This is like

2100
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,840
Yeah, we're very excited to come.

2101
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,360
>> We're hoping that this is just the

2102
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,679
beginning and that when see it, they're

2103
01:13:01,679 --> 01:13:03,520
going to want to participate as well.

2104
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,199
And then we want to partner also with

2105
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:07,040
the museum to do some walking tours for

2106
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,480
them as well. So I'm hoping that this

2107
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:11,199
whole GIA program has really started to

2108
01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:13,520
just be the beginning kickstart of more

2109
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,560
all arts culture and history and getting

2110
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,719
people excited about that walking around

2111
01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:20,400
being more interactive with our

2112
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,120
downtown.

2113
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,480
>> Awesome. Thank you.

2114
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:27,440
>> Um Pian,

2115
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:28,719
>> I wasn't able to attend.

2116
01:13:28,719 --> 01:13:32,320
>> I pinched hit it last uh week. I found

2117
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,920
out that morning, but I made it. Um, so,

2118
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,440
uh, it's always a great group. There was

2119
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:38,800
a couple minor things to take care of,

2120
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,560
replacing a mowing contract with someone

2121
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,159
who just wasn't able to do it anymore.

2122
01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:43,760
But the bigger thing is that the DNR

2123
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,520
come up with some money. I think mostly

2124
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,520
them, um, doing an entire survey of the

2125
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,600
trail to look about where wash outs are

2126
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,280
and things like that. That has started

2127
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:52,320
already. It was on the agenda for

2128
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,760
approval last week, even though the DNR

2129
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,199
had already started. It's

2130
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:56,800
>> kind of like

2131
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,800
>> more of those things. But, um, but yeah,

2132
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,640
so that's going on on the trail. Great.

2133
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:01,840
>> Thank you. Mhm.

2134
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,159
>> DBA did not meet. So we'll go to our

2135
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:06,239
manager clerk staff attorney reports

2136
01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:08,159
>> and yes and because some things I print

2137
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:09,520
off this thing and I leave it at my desk

2138
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,040
and forget it. So today I emailed it to

2139
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,280
you and brought it. So and I do have one

2140
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,440
to add on the bottom. But um again the

2141
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:17,520
water tower paint like is this our

2142
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,719
pre-construction meeting is this

2143
01:14:18,719 --> 01:14:21,679
Thursday. Um the AT&T tower folks that

2144
01:14:21,679 --> 01:14:23,280
are looking to add stuff at Walden the

2145
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,360
top that we postponed to coincide with

2146
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,239
this um are going to be there. Scriptor

2147
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:29,920
Park Retain while we Rud and I put

2148
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,679
together the design build bid process

2149
01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:35,120
and we had two biders um one didn't

2150
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,760
provide engineering but uh the numbers

2151
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,800
were like 85,000 and 200,000 they were

2152
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,640
miles and miles apart

2153
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,000
>> we're going to work with the one and and

2154
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,440
do some I talked to them today about

2155
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:48,560
doing a different plan that doesn't

2156
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:49,360
require engineering

2157
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:49,760
>> okay

2158
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,120
>> make it to where that that's off the

2159
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,199
table but we still we still want to do

2160
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:55,440
it yet this year now it's still 85,000 I

2161
01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:57,760
think we have 50 or 75 five I think is

2162
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,800
in the budget if I recall.

2163
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,520
We'll have to bring you know it to move

2164
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,120
forward that's over the budget but we

2165
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:06,960
have other money in the parks but that

2166
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,800
wall is getting bad and this is the best

2167
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,560
time of year to do it

2168
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:11,440
>> um

2169
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:13,120
>> in the spring it's just too busy too

2170
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,360
much going on it's wet perhaps and it's

2171
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,040
not as good guys

2172
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,239
>> right

2173
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:20,000
>> um but I don't have a recommendation per

2174
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,520
se because we haven't nailed down

2175
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:22,960
exactly because the scope is kind of

2176
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,159
changing and we're having to morph it

2177
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:25,760
back. It might lower down now because

2178
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,360
we're going to be using maybe one layer

2179
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,400
of tall uh the block walls instead of

2180
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,360
three.

2181
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,800
>> So, I'm going to try to get it down to

2182
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,800
back where our budget amount was.

2183
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,840
>> I guess I'm I didn't even

2184
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,440
Again, we weren't It might not be even

2185
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:41,199
be done. We we I prefer to bring

2186
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:42,719
something back next month with a more

2187
01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:43,920
defined

2188
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,520
>> um plan, but just kind of let you know

2189
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:46,400
where we're at. Okay.

2190
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:47,679
>> It's something we would probably look to

2191
01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:50,000
do in October, November, just before

2192
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,760
winter. At least before winter.

2193
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,040
>> Okay.

2194
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,159
Um the accessible bathroom project, uh

2195
01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:58,239
it it's it's going it's been fits and

2196
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:00,320
starts. We had a little measurement

2197
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,080
issue with our designer uh the

2198
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,000
architect. So they they the contractor

2199
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,520
moved the sink and he's running some

2200
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,640
problems with the steel beam in the

2201
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,360
wall, stuff like that. So um I spoke to

2202
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,600
them both uh today and we need to kind

2203
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,679
of reassess that to make sure that the

2204
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:14,880
wall being moved is still going to meet

2205
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,480
the ADA requirements. I mean that's the

2206
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:18,080
whole idea of the bathroom, right?

2207
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,239
>> You can't put it up without that.

2208
01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:23,600
So, um, again, it it's it's not we we

2209
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:24,560
still have the other bathrooms and

2210
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:25,760
they're going to be in tomorrow to clean

2211
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:26,960
them out cuz they were construction

2212
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,400
putting holes in the ceiling to run some

2213
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,000
piping. They're a bit of a mess right

2214
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,840
now. We can obviously come over here to

2215
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,400
this hallway, use bathrooms, but they're

2216
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:35,679
going to come clean those up so we can

2217
01:16:35,679 --> 01:16:38,000
still continue to use those. Um, the

2218
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,360
well number five refurbishment project

2219
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,880
that we approved or council approved

2220
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,280
back this summer went well. Everything

2221
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,760
went good. uh that's been on um back

2222
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,640
online for a couple weeks now, but uh

2223
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,239
peerless

2224
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:52,159
um I've mentioned the water reliability

2225
01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:54,480
study. You know, Eagle was behind on a

2226
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:55,600
lot of things over the years. Right now,

2227
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,120
they're trying to get everybody back and

2228
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,960
uh get back on their normal schedules.

2229
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,640
So, I was informed, oh, it's due this

2230
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,080
year. You know, it's like, well, not

2231
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:03,440
sure if we have time to do it yet this

2232
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:05,120
year because hybrid flow testing is part

2233
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,159
of that

2234
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:07,440
>> and I'm going to try to drag my feet,

2235
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:09,679
say it's too cold, but we'll still get

2236
01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:12,480
something out back to you.

2237
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:15,679
um the contracts that we negotiated this

2238
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:17,280
year that are pretty much put to bed. Um

2239
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,520
part of that was the the change in at

2240
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,760
the MS plan for our police officers

2241
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,159
union and again no no increase in cost

2242
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:26,320
to us. Um I spoke to MS and everything

2243
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,080
is on in line for that that's going

2244
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,760
forward as well and I think officers are

2245
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,480
very appreciative of that process. So,

2246
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:33,760
um, the one thing I didn't have on

2247
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,000
there, um, the the DNR tree grant that I

2248
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,679
applied for back in June or so, we we

2249
01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:39,280
did get awarded that grant and it's it's

2250
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,199
very

2251
01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:43,600
tight area. It's it's all west or east

2252
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,920
of town and it it goes down Glassby, but

2253
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,120
it's only on the west side of Glasby.

2254
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,480
So, we can't put any in the parks. We'd

2255
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:50,480
love to have put, you know, 15 trees in

2256
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:52,239
the park of the 20 or so or 30 we're

2257
01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:55,040
going to get. It's $10,000 grant. Um,

2258
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,480
but uh my I uh I have a teams meeting

2259
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:00,400
with the DNR next week to go over that

2260
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,679
and the grants and stuff. So, we'll get them in. Perhaps it's on

2261
01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:07,360
Powell up there along Trail area.

2262
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,800
>> Uh perhaps there's some residents in

2263
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,239
some of those areas over there that we

2264
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:12,320
can um get them in off Broadway or Pearl

2265
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,159
or something like that. Some uh other

2266
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:17,679
trees that fit better in in the area.

2267
01:18:17,679 --> 01:18:18,000
>> Yeah.

2268
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,440
>> Keep them away from our utilities and

2269
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:20,800
stuff like that. But

2270
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,320
>> but but we got it. We'll move forward

2271
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,960
with it. Great. Thank you. Any

2272
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,149
questions?

2273
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:30,080
» Okay. Um, you guys know we've been

2274
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,560
having issues with our autopay. Um, they

2275
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,080
didn't fix it again for like third

2276
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,880
month. So, we um ended up cancing with

2277
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,159
point and pay.

2278
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:40,480
>> We will have October 1st start with our

2279
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:43,360
BSA online. Autopay will be back up with

2280
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,159
that program. Yes, I know. Yay.

2281
01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:48,480
>> We have training on Thursday. We'll get

2282
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:50,800
our new um

2283
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,880
card readers and stuff. So that'll

2284
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,360
finally be fixed and that'll alleviate a

2285
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:56,719
lot of calls and

2286
01:18:56,719 --> 01:18:58,880
>> and work that we've got to do for that.

2287
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,760
Also, payroll will be now in house

2288
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,440
starting October uh 22nd. So that'll be

2289
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,440
the last cloud conversion. So we'll be

2290
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:10,320
done with everything with that. So

2291
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:10,800
>> great.

2292
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:11,199
>> Yeah.

2293
01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:15,679
>> For the um water bill, um how are we

2294
01:19:15,679 --> 01:19:18,159
supposed to pay that now then?

2295
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:20,320
>> I'll have everything on the website.

2296
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,320
Okay. you'll it's when you look up your

2297
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,400
water bill of the SA online. I think

2298
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,080
it's just another option that says you

2299
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,960
can set up auto pay. You can pay online.

2300
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,640
I don't know exactly,

2301
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,000
>> but I'll make sure everything's on there

2302
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,120
before October 1st.

2303
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,640
>> You mean with the new system or in the

2304
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:35,360
interim?

2305
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:36,400
>> Even in their interim.

2306
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,320
>> Well, you can still pay one time payment

2307
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,560
with point and pay. We have docs online.

2308
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,080
You can still pay. You can still send a

2309
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:42,800
check. You can

2310
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,960
>> It's just not on It's not going to pay

2311
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,880
unless you do something.

2312
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,560
>> That's what I think. you have that blur

2313
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,480
on the utility bill that it is not

2314
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:51,199
working.

2315
01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:51,520
>> Okay.

2316
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:51,920
>> Um

2317
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,440
>> that's why I think a lot of people they

2318
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:56,000
set it up and they forget about it and

2319
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,600
then I'm like wait I have to actually do

2320
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,199
something now this month to make sure I

2321
01:19:59,199 --> 01:19:59,760
pay. Okay.

2322
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,520
>> And we were reversing charges you the

2323
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,440
late fees and stuff like that

2324
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:05,280
>> cuz they're still getting emails from

2325
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:06,800
point pay saying your payment's going to

2326
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,080
go through but they're not actually

2327
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,840
drawing any money

2328
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,280
>> that's what's really confusing. Okay.

2329
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,880
Thank you

2330
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:13,840
>> Mr. Davis.

2331
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:14,640
>> Great. Thank you.

2332
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,040
>> Okay. Move on to council comments.

2333
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:17,679
Martina.

2334
01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:22,239
>> Um I guess first maybe not current but a

2335
01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:26,229
question. Um

2336
01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:28,400
we are just and I guess this is more

2337
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,840
just for public as a reminder. Um there

2338
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:37,920
is uh the village council um is uh there

2339
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,480
are three of us there are going to be

2340
01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:43,840
three spaces open in November for the

2341
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,239
election. Right now there is only one

2342
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:50,320
person um that is listed on the ballot.

2343
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,560
So there are procedures that are

2344
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,800
available if someone is interested in

2345
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,360
running for village council uh as a

2346
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,520
writin.

2347
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,600
Um and I think it would be if anyone is

2348
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:07,120
interested um to reach out to

2349
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,080
the township

2350
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,440
>> should be the township clerk. They can

2351
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:13,840
call me too. But um you have to have

2352
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,159
your paperwork in. There's a deadline.

2353
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:16,480
Yeah.

2354
01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:18,320
>> Um you can't just have people write your

2355
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,560
name in. You have to be you have to have

2356
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,800
a record that you are writing.

2357
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,960
>> Um so they just have to make sure they

2358
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,400
got that paperwork in on time. But you do all that at the township the

2359
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:29,199
clerk there.

2360
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:31,520
>> Yep. So I you know just would encourage

2361
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,080
anyone if they are interested um there

2362
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,360
are going to be additional

2363
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,520
>> there's two spots open not three. Yeah.

2364
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,199
>> She said three but there's one already

2365
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:39,600
but

2366
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,120
>> yes. Yes.

2367
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,520
>> Yeah. Okay. I just want to make sure

2368
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,600
>> that's fine.

2369
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,679
>> But, you know, I just, you know, I I I

2370
01:21:47,679 --> 01:21:50,080
encourage anyone that is interested um

2371
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,199
you know, there are additional vacancies

2372
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:55,520
uh available. Um and for more

2373
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,920
information, uh they can contact the

2374
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,840
township and um and if they're

2375
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,080
interested in knowing what it's like, I

2376
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:03,600
think we're all more than happy to

2377
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,280
answer any questions. Mhm.

2378
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,239
>> Um uh I think it's a great opportunity

2379
01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:10,480
for people to really get involved in

2380
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:12,560
their community and to get to know

2381
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,080
everyone and to really make a

2382
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:18,719
difference. Uh secondly, um we did have

2383
01:22:18,719 --> 01:22:22,000
our flag pole installed last month. It

2384
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,120
is beautiful and glorious and wonderful.

2385
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,840
Um and we are looking forward to having

2386
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:32,000
a dedication ceremony uh tenatively uh

2387
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,120
in the morning of the October 3rd at the

2388
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:39,280
scare festival best festival. Sorry

2389
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,960
>> either one Um, so we're we're we're

2390
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,760
hoping to uh do a formal dedication

2391
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:50,639
then. Uh, and we had a very very uh nice

2392
01:22:50,639 --> 01:22:53,280
ceremony for our first responders

2393
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,800
appreciation uh at the township park. We

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01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,719
had great weather. The drone show was

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01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:01,120
cool. Um, it was really nice for us to

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01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,280
be able to celebrate um our village

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01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,280
police officers along with all of our

2398
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:09,280
first responders. So um I talked to the

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01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,760
township. We are hoping to make that a

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01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,560
uh an annual event going forward to

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01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,120
coincide with national night out and

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01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,280
we'll go from there. So, thank you.

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01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,760
>> Okay. Thank you.

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01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:22,639
>> No comments.

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01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:25,920
>> Okay. I will move to adjourn at 8:23.

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01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:26,800
>> Second. Okay.

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01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,719
>> All those in favor say I. I.

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01:23:28,719 --> 01:23:31,719
>> I.