[0:00] e
[0:45] what a wonderful
[0:48] group what a wonderful group to see here
tonight I don't think uh council
[0:54] chambers has been filled to this
capacity in quite a while so thank you
[0:59] all for being here tonight and welcome
this is a regular meeting of the city
[1:03] council the City of Pacific Grove it's
Wednesday December 4th 2024 it's 6: pm
[1:09] I'll call the meeting to order note that
all council members are present please
[1:14] join me in the pledge of
[1:19] allegiance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the Republic
[1:25] for which it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for
[1:36] all may I have a motion to approve the
agenda so move second y all in favor I I
[1:44] I
opposed motion carries unanimously 60
[1:49] all right uh on item 2A Mr
[1:56] mogenson thank you Mr Mayor um the last
time perhaps will'll say that this
[2:01] evening to you um um this item will be
presented by our city
[2:07] clerk thank you city manager
mogenson good evening honorable mayor
[2:12] council members staff and members of the
public my staff report includes a
[2:16] resolution to declare the results of the
November 5th 2024 municipal election
[2:22] City Charter article 9 requires results
of the Municipal elections be declared
[2:27] by action of the council at its first
public meeting after certification of
[2:31] the election results California
elections code
[2:35] 10263 requires Council declare elected
the persons For Whom the highest number
[2:40] of votes were cast for each office
adoption of the proposed resolution will
[2:45] accomplish this declaration and as you
will note uh that uh resolution was
[2:50] revised and the uh final results were
attached via erata and it should be on
[2:56] the dis as well as a copy for the
Public's View
[3:00] the statement of C votes cast certifies
the election of Nick Smith as mayor the
[3:05] reelection of chaps perur and the
election of Tina Ral and Paul
[3:09] walkingstick as council members to our
city council additionally measure Q
[3:14] passed by majority vote by the people of
the state of I'm sorry the City of
[3:18] Pacific Grove and measures Z did not
pass staff's recommendation tonight is
[3:23] to approve the resolution declaring the
results of the November 5th 2024
[3:28] municipal election this includes staff's
report and thank
[3:33] you thank you and now we'll go for
public
[3:38] comment if you would like to speak
please come to the podium it's on the
[3:49] right my name is Susan goldbeck and I've
been a citizen of Pacific grow for 35
[3:55] years um and I'm now the queen bee of
the
[4:00] BBB society and what our goal is is to
do public Outreach to bring the
[4:06] butterflies back to Pacific Grove and
what that means is the giant beautiful
[4:12] stained glass butterfly on the top of
the homman building for four
[4:17] decades um was taken out of there when a
sold the building there may be some
[4:22] confusion about what item we're on now
this is this is not general public
[4:26] comment this is comment just general
public comment no I'm sorry this is not
[4:31] general public comment oh say public
comment anyone wants to speak it's on
[4:35] this particular item the Declaration of
be back the election
[4:44] okay all right let's try it one more
time how about a virtual
[4:53] audience Miss Miller
[4:59] I would just like to congratulate
everyone who is going to be seated on
[5:05] the city council and thank everyone who
ran I think this is indicative of a town
[5:14] or a village that really cares and tries
to be involved there are some sticky
[5:21] issues coming up but I know that you
will do your best thank you so much for
[5:26] being there for us
[5:31] Abby
[5:35] be good evening everyone I would like to
extend my heartfelt thanks to council
[5:40] member Luke ketti for his dedicated
service to the residents of Pacific
[5:44] Grove over the past four years he has
demonstrated exceptional leadership and
[5:49] a steadfast commitment to supporting our
community his deep knowledge of our
[5:53] City's needs and priorities has
consistently guided his work and he has
[5:57] always put Pacific Road first I wish him
all the best in his future endeavors and
[6:01] want to express my sincere gratitude for
being one of the finest council members
[6:05] I have had the privilege to work with
and observe in service in our city and
[6:10] I'd like to congratulate incoming
council member Tina raal and also Mr
[6:15] walking stick have a great
[6:21] evening we do not have any more public
comment
[6:26] online all right uh let's uh I'd like to
hear a motion I'll make motion go ahead
[6:33] council member Amelia yeah I'll make a
motion to approve the resolution
[6:37] declaring the results of the November
5th general election second well um
[6:44] before we vote I have a couple of
comments to make on this I want to Echo
[6:48] some comments that were just made by
Miss Miller uh first of all
[6:53] congratulations uh to uh the newly
elected or about to be sworn in uh
[6:59] officials and those that have been
reelected to city government uh um well
[7:06] done and I'm I'm hoping and rooting for
your success because when you're
[7:12] successful we all are
[7:34] have sacrificed personal time and
efforts with the expectation that they
[7:40] might be sacrificing uh quite a bit of
uh their personal time in the future and
[7:46] and bit of courage to be out there to be
judged by the community for the position
[7:53] of uh government here and so I I'm I'm
very very much appreciative of all the
[8:01] people that that ran put themselves out
and this is the way our city government
[8:08] our democracy works best right without
without choices and you provided um the
[8:14] choices and the discussions of what our
city government should do so thank thank
[8:20] you all very much
um council member pador um thank you
[8:26] mayor and and I would also like to Echo
the same thoughts I would like to thank
[8:30] first of all uh mayor B Peak uh it's
it's a really tough job to be on the
[8:35] seat for four years but you've been
doing for than that but I I really
[8:40] appreciate what you've done with with
the city uh to take the city forward on
[8:44] on a lot of items here I would also like
to appreciate uh and and thank Mr klei
[8:49] uh for for what he's done in the past
four years as well as Council woman back
[8:52] who was there on the council uh I would
also like to thank uh the candidates who
[8:56] are running and congratulations to the
new candidates that are are here in in
[9:00] addition I would actually like to thank
the city because an 80% plus turnout
[9:04] that is fantastic so I really
congratulate all of you for
[9:07] participating in the Democratic process
and and taking things forward so thank
[9:11] you very
[9:16] much council member McDonald well since
we're doing shoutouts I would definitely
[9:22] like to thank uh mayor Peak first of all
for great mentoring because coming into
[9:26] this seat there's so much you don't know
you don't know until you get here so
[9:30] thank you so much for all you have
taught us all the year about over the
[9:33] years about good government um and good
governance and and thank you so much for
[9:38] that and the same to uh Luke ketti who
um I feel I've learned so much about
[9:42] really understanding all you've brought
forward for all the ordinances and
[9:46] things we could do to fix and improve
city government to make sure that uh
[9:49] We've updated things that may have been
way out of date and always so much
[9:53] supporting the public and also
congratulations to Paul walkingstick and
[9:56] Tina Ralph for joining us and I'm
looking for for to more business to come
[10:00] thank you council member klei thank you
your honor I I too want to Echo uh my
[10:07] thoughts uh and congratulations to the
mayor and also to really point out the
[10:12] fact that he always let council members
explore the space as it were and he was
[10:20] always the last to speak and the first
to encourage council members to go out
[10:25] and develop their own ideas bring them
to council ground truth them and
[10:30] hopefully have them adopted so I think
the mayor has been an exceptional mayor
[10:35] and was a privilege serving with you and
uh and also congratulations to all the
[10:40] candidates who uh who uh were uh elected
at this last election thank you council
[10:46] member
Amelia we're discussing everything now
[10:52] bill it's been great uh knowing you and
I know we'll see each other in the
[10:56] future that's for sure and uh in I also
want to congratulate Shirley Peak who's
[11:02] out in the audience
because you got you have to have a
[11:08] spouse that's going to support you and I
uh do want to congratulate all the
[11:14] candidates too and I want to tell you uh
a quick story from a a former mayor uh
[11:21] that was on for a long time and he told
me Joe the first day is great then it's
[11:31] then it's all
downhill no it isn't it's uh it's also
[11:38] will it's been a pleasure working with
you and uh and getting together socially
[11:43] and uh you've been a real mentor to me
when I first got elected in 2018 I
[11:47] really appreciate it and um thank you
very much and Luke good luck to you and
[11:55] thank you for your input and everything
I really appreciate it so and and uh
[11:59] chaps I'll see you next
time May Smith thank you your honor I'll
[12:05] just said I'm going to be making some
comments and I don't want to spend too
[12:09] much time talking tonight so you know
they expect them to be
[12:12] lengthy all right we had a motion all in
favor I opposed motion carries UH
[12:21] 60 all right um Mr mogenson Item B
certificates thank you again Mr Mayor um
[12:29] so before we get started with uh some
certificates from the city uh supervisor
[12:35] Mary Adams is here as well to present a
couple um to you as well so we'd like to
[12:39] start with those if
[12:46] possible thank you good evening everyone
I must admit when you just said all in
[12:52] favor I nearly said I no wait wait wrong
wrong place wrong place um but thank you
[12:58] all for coming out for this lovely
lovely kind of transfer um it it really
[13:03] is a very big pleasure for me on behalf
of the county to present two um
[13:08] certificates of
appreciation and I will do so right away
[13:13] but I will do so um by asking our
supervisor elect Kate Daniels who is
[13:20] here to come and join me for this
because you'll all be able to work with
[13:24] Kate in the near future I'm sorry I
wasn't at the meeting this morning
[13:29] great good so thank you I'm not going to
take over your meeting I promise so
[13:33] we'll just just scooch on here um but um
maybe you could help me by holding the
[13:38] microphone so our first uh certificate
goes to Luke colleti and um it is with
[13:43] sincere appreciation for your service to
the Pacific Grove Community um as a
[13:48] local Boy you know you really know your
way around Pacific Grove and you showed
[13:53] terrific leadership and much hard work
particularly around the chiaka hall um
[13:59] restoration and and work it was really
wonderful just standing on the outside
[14:03] seeing the work that you did was really
something so it's it gives me good big
[14:07] pleasure or can H why don't
[14:11] you stay up there okay do you want to
see yes I just I mean I'm thinking
[14:18] vacation rental ordinances as well and
so thank you very much for your work and
[14:24] and the connection that I've been able
to have with you on housing when in a
[14:27] few meetings where I got to know you and
see your real commitment to ensuring
[14:31] housing for our community members so
thank you for that work and even Beyond
[14:35] Your Service here I look forward to
working with you in my next iteration as
[14:40] the County Supervisor so I hope you'll
stay in touch yeah thank you thank you
[14:45] so
[14:51] much and now it is a great honor and
pleasure for me to present this
[14:56] certificate to Bill Peak the the
outgoing mayor of City of Pacific Grove
[15:01] with sincere appreciation for your many
years of exemplary service to the City
[15:05] of Pacific Grove the residents of the
county of Monteray wish you much success
[15:10] Joy health and happiness in all your
future endeavors and I um especially
[15:16] pleased to be able to present this to
bill because uh he has really been a a a
[15:21] strong
um a very good contact for me to have a
[15:26] really strong leader someone who
represents not just the City of Pacific
[15:30] Grove but a really a like a more of a
Visionary sort of person uh as the
[15:37] supervisor I pulled together the we had
uh sort of bimonthly meetings of the uh
[15:42] three mayors that I represent city of
Carmel City of Monteray and City of
[15:46] Pacific Grove and Bill was always so um
important at those meetings because he
[15:51] would ask questions that the others
hadn't thought of and then we would have
[15:56] the opportunity to have Unity among the
Mayors particularly around the issues of
[16:01] covid bill was a really strong leader in
Co in our community and in our County
[16:07] and will be remembered for that um one
of the first things that we did of
[16:11] course everyone remembers the the uh
ship that came in but honestly Pacific
[16:17] Grove has a reputation of being a really
welcoming Community because of that
[16:21] activity and then the the opportunity we
had to speak with the other two Mayors
[16:26] leading with Bill's leadership about how
how we are we going to deal with the
[16:31] beaches during covid and it was really
helpful and he really you should be very
[16:35] very proud of the mayor that you have
had and I know equally proud of the new
[16:40] mayor that you're going to to have so it
is just with that that I wanted to be
[16:44] able to present this to you personally
because um it's been such a treat to
[16:48] work with you so I really really value
you thank you and I thank you as well
[16:54] and I'm looking forward to carrying on
in the time that I've had a chance to
[16:57] work with you the things that I know are
important to you and to Pacific Grove
[17:01] and getting to continue working with the
rest of your colleagues here on the
[17:05] council and making sure things like our
water supply are secure and solid and
[17:10] continuing the work you did thank you
thank you so much
[17:29] um so the first the first uh outgoing
council person that we'll recognize
[17:34] tonight for their years of service and
all that they accomplished in that time
[17:38] I'll turn this way is uh council member
Luke
[17:42] KY um as you all know in I think all of
years Luke Luke's years of service he
[17:48] has been uh very busy he's definitely
somebody who comes to work every day and
[17:52] has put a lot into this position a
couple of the accomplishments that we'll
[17:56] we'll highlight here this evening are
first of all introduced um some valid
[18:00] measures you know the most recent one
being major Q which passed which further
[18:04] clarified the city's prohibition on time
shares um Luke also introduced quite a
[18:08] few ordinances um that further limited
the impacts of short-term rentals on the
[18:12] community push um pushed forward efforts
to protect the urban forest and our
[18:17] natural habitat things that motion
things that been put in motion will
[18:21] continue on uh promoted additional
Financial transparency in the city and
[18:25] in Council decision-making initiated a
council policy to increase public
[18:29] participation in Council meetings and
then served on several subcommittees
[18:34] again you know kind of the tireless work
that he's been doing the whole time here
[18:37] one of the things that I will miss being
only six months on the job here is just
[18:41] having that research you know person
that I that is always there to answer a
[18:45] question but we'll still have your phone
number so I'm sure I'll be able to call
[18:49] um but uh you definitely you know have
an archive of information so with that
[18:55] um on behalf of the the city city
council and the residents we like to
[19:01] present you with this recognition and a
certificate of appreciation for your
[19:05] years of service than
[19:12] Ma and uh we also had two others that
couldn't be with us tonight we have one
[19:16] from um assembly member Don Addis his
office that will present A C certificate
[19:21] of recognition and also one from Senator
lair's office keep for yourself all
[19:27] right thank you I would like to
[19:31] say thank you Matt first I want to thank
uh the PG voters for all their support
[19:37] over the years that's meant a lot to me
and I I deeply appreciate it I also want
[19:41] to thank my colleagues and staff uh I've
enjoyed participating in local
[19:45] government and I'm very proud of the
accomplish accomplishments and progress
[19:49] we have made especially in the last two
years so thank you very much
[20:04] and doing the honors of um recognizing
mayor Peak this
[20:08] evening do I have incorrect we switching
up the
[20:12] schedule okay I think this one's good
too dueling microphones Max
[20:17] yes good evening
everyone mayor I'm gonna stand right
[20:22] here so you want to join me over
here so it's great to be here tonight
[20:27] and see everyone here uh H and I've been
given this great opportunity to thank uh
[20:33] Mayor Bill Peak for his many years of
distinguished service to the community
[20:37] City of Pacific Grove first elected in
2014 he served on the council for one
[20:43] four-year term but in 2018 his number
was called and he won his first mayoral
[20:49] election he won two elections after that
in 2020 and
[20:54] 2022 so he's 4-0 as it is
and I would say in my opinion it's no
[21:01] accident that he's 4 and0 because he's a
tireless campaigner he's very bright and
[21:06] he made it a point to visit every single
door in the
[21:10] community um I feel that he wanted to
know what the voters wanted for the
[21:14] community and that's really what drove
him doing that and also what drove his
[21:20] leadership in the City of Pacific Grove
now if you've been around here long you
[21:24] know that we have some pretty long
meetings here some that go into the to
[21:29] the late hours of the evening and I
sometimes joke that I never saw Bill eat
[21:33] or drink anything over the course of a
six-hour meeting I wasn't sure how he
[21:38] did that I said he was a
machine the majority of the council
[21:44] could be enjoying fine cuisine from one
of our great restaurants upstairs during
[21:48] a Clos session and trying to get full
before anticipating a long meeting but
[21:52] Bill would just be sitting there
steadfastly focusing on the agenda items
[21:56] getting the things checked off and an
orderly fashion and that was Bill that's
[22:01] classic bill right there and that shows
his dedication he also has a superhuman
[22:06] ability to sit very still during a
meeting and assimilate
[22:11] information often reaching the necessary
conclusions to bring consensus to the
[22:15] group these things speak to his
intellect which is impressive and his
[22:20] work ethic which is equally
impressive and now I think this might be
[22:24] an understatement but Bill is committed
to transparency and it's not just lips
[22:28] service and it showed throughout his
term he pushed for the completion of a
[22:32] great many informative reports and the
publication of City documents online he
[22:38] was very in tune with the understanding
the business of the government and
[22:41] making that information available to the
public and Bill he loves reports I mean
[22:47] this guy really loves reports all kinds
of reports I'll be frank some of these
[22:53] reports were a bit Arcane but I saw the
method you get the information and you
[22:58] better understand a problem and then you
can fashion solutions that was a
[23:02] Hallmark of Bill's terms his inclination
to open the book and share with the
[23:06] community and his willingness to wait
into a tough problem and try to solve it
[23:11] and because he was by trade an engineer
you might think Bill may not be
[23:15] interested in writing a contr I will
tell you that bill loves writing maybe
[23:20] as much as he loves
reports he routinely took things I and
[23:25] others wrote and cut them in half much
to our dismay he is an aggressive editor
[23:31] always trying to provide clear a clearer
picture to the reader dispense with
[23:35] frivolities and lay out all of the
options his writing is clear and concise
[23:39] and he was not afraid to put his
sentiments in writing which benefited
[23:42] the community greatly giving Clarity to
our policies now I could have put this
[23:48] one first but Bill is also committed to
procedure and that may be an
[23:52] understatement as well but that may be
his greatest gift to the city Bill
[23:57] drafted a policy for just about every
issue of importance and we adopted those
[24:02] policies and they Now guide our
decision-making processes for many
[24:06] important issues you see Bill before his
Council service Bill worked at Chevron
[24:11] for many years and I don't know exactly
what he did at Chevron but if they
[24:14] didn't have him working on policies and
procedures or quality control or
[24:18] something of that nature then they were
totally missing out on that skill
[24:22] set Bill understood that good procedure
would not only clarify the objectives of
[24:27] the body but also to the most Equitable
results he was efficient and effective
[24:32] during his terms and the council
completed a great many tasks too many to
[24:35] go over but I will highlight a few the
local Coastal program certification the
[24:40] point peno's Coastal Trail completion
outdoor dining program the downtown PG
[24:45] Hotel under construction the ATC Hotel
project in progress virtual public
[24:51] meetings in response to the pandemic the
library renewal project completion the
[24:55] hiring of the new city manager and City
attorney
[24:58] improved governance and we're going back
to policies reserves policy board and
[25:03] commission handbook code of conduct city
manager performance evaluation policy
[25:09] Council goals policy online posting of
City agreements policy I mean I can go
[25:14] on here you could see that kind of see a
trend here workplace safety
[25:17] policy and he also worked on building
Partnerships between the school district
[25:22] and the city um helping to create a
joint subcommittee with the school
[25:26] district and also helping to create the
facilities use agreement so that we
[25:30] could use and share our facilities
together as uh sister jurisdictions and
[25:35] all of these tasks were completed with
an environment of civil and open debate
[25:39] and discourse and that is a win for
local government now I I could go on and
[25:44] on and extol Bill's many virtues but I
will cut this short and just add that
[25:48] bill is as wise as he is all of the
other things I mentioned the city
[25:52] benefited from his Keen judgment on
difficult issues that we
[25:56] faced and Bill ALS Al what some people
don't know because he is such a
[26:00] professional is he likes to have a good
time and hang out with his wife and
[26:03] friends so this will be his opportunity
to do that now more often probably not
[26:08] going burning the midnight oil writing
policies and things of that
[26:11] nature so bill with that we thank you
from the bottom of our hearts for your
[26:16] contributions to our Fair City and wish
you the very best in your
[26:27] retirement and I also have this is from
the City of Pacific Grove and I also
[26:31] have um Senator L's office provided you
with uh the Senate's uh certificate and
[26:39] assemblywoman Addis provided you with
the assembly certificate thank you very
[26:44] much awesome thank you very much um last
time I can say mayor protm Smith mayor
[26:53] elect Smith and uh now my head is about
to burst from all the kind words so
[26:59] thank you so much um it's uh you know
it's really been an honor and a
[27:05] privilege to serve the City of Pacific
Grove and its residents and
[27:12] citizens um you know the key for me is
that uh you all put your trust in me as
[27:20] well as city council to do the right
thing and though obviously we don't
[27:26] always agree on things there was the
trust that will try to do um what's
[27:31] right for everybody and so I and I know
speaking for my my colleagues now former
[27:40] colleagues I can say we we always had
that uh in mind so uh someone I've been
[27:47] asked um uh why steep why not run again
it was just my turn to pass the Baton
[27:57] you know city government is never ending
and uh so we've got a a crew that has a
[28:04] lot of energy
enthusiasm and um I wish them again so
[28:10] much of success and uh now for my um my
Academy Award moment and I want to
[28:19] thank first of all all my
supporters I want to thank all the
[28:24] people that have
participated um sometimes very vocally
[28:30] in city government at City Council
meetings because that's the way this
[28:35] whole system works I especially want to
thank all my colleagues um they they've
[28:42] just been um awesome and I I want to I
want to single out council member
[28:49] colleti um he came in um no
one has worked harder and investig ated
[28:58] more aspects of city government than he
has in the in uh the last four years so
[29:04] that was always appreciated we had many
many long discussions about how things
[29:09] should should work better so thank you
so much and then of course um I want to
[29:15] uh thank uh Shirley who put up with so
many discussions often you know it's a
[29:23] late at night council uh Council
meetings and none of can just you know
[29:29] turn it off and go to sleep at uh at
11:00 at night and she's there nice
[29:35] nicely listening to me go on and
[29:40] on so thank you so much
[30:13] next we'll do the O and then we'll take
a break
[30:34] yeah we were going to do one at a time
one a time yeah um so I just wanted to
[30:40] briefly say that um no council action is
required at this time as a city clerk I
[30:46] will administer separately um Oaths to
the uh mayor elect mcsmith uh and uh
[30:52] council members elect bedri Ral and
walking stick so let me come up
[31:22] testing
testing okay
[31:26] um raise your hand please and repeat
after me I and state your name I Nick
[31:33] Smith do you solemnly swear or affirm do
solemnly swear or affirm but I will
[31:38] support and defend the Constitution of
the United States that I will support
[31:42] and defend the Constitution of the
United States and the constitution of
[31:45] the State of California and the
constitution of the State of California
[31:49] against all enemies foreign and domestic
against all enemies foreign and domestic
[31:53] that I will bear true faith and
allegiance that I will bear true faith
[31:56] and allegiance to the con ition of the
United States to the Constitution of the
[32:00] United States and the constitution of
the State of California and the
[32:03] constitution of the State of California
and I take this obligation freely and I
[32:08] take this obligation freely without any
mental reservation or purpose of evasion
[32:12] without any mental reservation or
purpose of evasion and that I will well
[32:17] and faithfully and that I will well and
Faithfully discharge the duties dis
[32:22] charge the duties upon which I'm about
to enter upon which I'm about to enter
[32:26] welcome thank you
[32:39] and I will have um council member
[32:46] paduri hello sir you will raise your
right hand repeat after me I in state
[32:51] your name please I CHS padri do you
solemnly swear Orly swear or un airm but
[32:56] I will support and on the Constitution
of the United States that I will support
[33:00] and defend the Constitution of the
United States and the constitution of
[33:03] the State of California and the
constitution of the State of California
[33:06] against all enemies foreign and domestic
against all enemies foreign and domestic
[33:09] that I will bear true faith and
allegiance that I will bear true faith
[33:12] and allegiance to the Constitution of
the United States the Constitution of
[33:15] the United States and the constitution
of the State of California and the
[33:18] constitution of the State of California
and I take this obligation freely and I
[33:22] take this obligation freely without any
mental reservation without any mental
[33:26] reservation or purpose of evasion for
purpose of evasion and that I will well
[33:30] and faithfully and that I will well and
Faithfully discharge the duties
[33:34] discharge the duties upon which I'm
about to enter upon which I'm about to
[33:37] enter thank
[33:46] you good
evening raise your right hand please I
[33:52] and state your name I Tina do solemnly
swear or affirm do solemnly swear or
[33:58] affirm that I will support and defend
the Constitution of the United States
[34:02] that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States and
[34:05] the constitution of the State of
California and the constitution of the
[34:08] State of California against all enemies
foreign and domestic against all enemies
[34:13] foreign and domestic that I will bear
true faith and allegiance that I will
[34:16] bear true faith and allegiance to the
Constitution of the State of California
[34:21] to the Constitution of the State of
California and the Constitution of the
[34:24] United States and the Constitution of
the United States and and I take this
[34:28] obligation freely and I take this
obligation freely without any mental
[34:32] reservation without any mental
reservation or purpose of evasion or
[34:36] purpose of evasion and that I will well
and faithfully and that I will well and
[34:41] Faithfully discharge the duties
discharge the duties upon which I'm am
[34:44] about to enter upon which I am about to
enter thank you wellcome
[35:02] good evening good evening that on yep
okay there we go yes raise your right
[35:08] hand please repeat after me I and state
your name please I Paul walkingstick do
[35:13] you solemnly swear or affirm do SW
solemnly swear or affirm that I will
[35:17] support and defend the Constitution of
the United States that I will support
[35:21] and defend the Constitution of the
United States and the constitution of
[35:25] the State of California and the
constitution of the State of California
[35:28] against all enemies foreign and domestic
against all enemies foreign and domestic
[35:33] that I will bear true faith and
allegiance that I will bear true faith
[35:36] and allegiance to the Constitution of
the United States to the Constitution of
[35:39] the United States and the constitution
of the State of California and the
[35:43] constitution of the State of California
and I take this obligation freely and I
[35:46] take this obligation freely without any
mental reservation without any mental
[35:50] reservation or purpose of evasion or
purpose of evasion and that I will well
[35:55] and faithfully and that I will well and
Faithfully y discharge the duties
[35:59] discharge the duties upon which I'm
about to enter upon which I'm about to
[36:02] enter thank you thank
[36:12] you and I believe that concludes um this
portion of the agenda and um I think
[36:18] what we have next is um maybe
comments I think we're going a break for
[36:24] cookies right
that that is next on the agenda
[36:29] congratulations everybody and let's have
cookies I got it right
[36:34] here okay here we
go all
[36:39] right all right great I didn't have to
bring the gble too hard to get everyone
[36:44] to stop socializing in this great
night okay
[36:50] so we've now reached U thank you
everybody for again for being here um
[36:56] we've now obviously seated new council
members and we are going to proceed with
[37:01] our
business um and I'm going to ask first I
[37:07] was asked if um council member Ral would
like to make a comment so I'm going to
[37:11] acknowledge her at this time I thank you
I wanted to take a moment to thank the
[37:17] vs of Pacific Grove the total came out
it was about
[37:21] 85.3% of the city voted and I me we
could tell the rest of the country a
[37:27] thing or two about how important it is
to get out and
[37:31] vote um and to the people who came here
tonight to support the process thank you
[37:36] very
much tonight I would like to offer a
[37:40] land acknowledgement with the hope that
we can add this to the council agenda at
[37:44] some point in the near
future perhaps after the C of Allegiance
[37:49] and have a different council member read
it at each
[37:52] meeting I would also like to suggest
that we put this item on the agenda
[37:58] uh next time with the council supp
direct the Dei task force to work with
[38:03] the r representatives to draft the land
acknowledgement for the City of Pacific
[38:10] Grove indigenous land acknowledgement
ining according to North West University
[38:16] it will so understanding history that
has brought us to his ey on the land and
[38:21] to seek to understand all place within
that history one acknowledgements to
[38:27] exist in past tense or historical
content colonialism is a current ongoing
[38:34] process and we need to be mindful about
our present
[38:39] participation so for tonight I offer
this we acknowledge that we are meeting
[38:45] today on the land of the Rumson aloney
people whose ancestors cared for this
[38:50] land for thousands of years we honor
their connection to this land and
[38:55] respect their presence past present and
future thank you your honor thank you
[39:01] council member uh any further council
member comments before we go on to
[39:05] reports from the city attorney if
any seeing none we'll go ahead and I'll
[39:11] turn to my uh city manager do you have
any report
[39:15] tonight you uh Mr Mayor um I do have a
couple things to update the the council
[39:20] and community on um the first one is
from our Community Development
[39:23] Department on our regarding our housing
element so our draft housing element is
[39:26] going to be reded for public review and
comment on Monday December 9th um this
[39:31] will will address hcd comments that were
received in January and changes to the
[39:35] housing sites inventory that removed
unclassified sites that would have been
[39:39] require that would have required a vote
of the people you remember we went
[39:42] through this process a couple months ago
the 7-Day public comic period will be
[39:47] open um from December 9th 5:00 pm
through December 16th and all comments
[39:52] should be sent to housing at City ofp
Pacific grove.org or um and you'll be
[39:58] able to find all that information on our
website under our housing element web
[40:02] pages um the other thing just for the
public and for the council's preview is
[40:07] on our next council meeting uh uh we
will be talking once again about
[40:10] districting so we'll have our second
public hearing of our four um and that
[40:14] will be basically a repeat of the the
hearing we did on November um 20th so
[40:20] just a heads up on that one thank you
very much and I'll turn to my our City
[40:24] attorney if you have anything I have no
reports tonight oh thank you sir okay
[40:29] then we will go ahead and move on to
General Public comment and before uh I
[40:33] get to the the audience for general
public comment on items not on the
[40:37] agenda I will uh acknowledge Rotary Club
of Pacific Grove for Their
[40:55] donation you probably all are aware this
is our 30th year of the auto rally and
[41:01] the auto rally was developed um in
1994 to support the youth center so we
[41:08] have a check tonight for the Youth
Center and our president Julie
[41:18] Ross it's the amount of 10,000
[41:28] uh there's also a donation for the
children's Library as well and we just
[41:32] really wanted to thank Dan go Katie
Clark for all their support the city for
[41:37] supporting this event for 30 years as
well as uh he's retired now but Rocky
[41:43] always did a great job for us from
public works and this past year Martin
[41:47] really stepped up and filled his shoes
and helped out immensely so we really
[41:52] appreciate all the support uh to be able
to continue to do this event so thank
[41:56] you thank you very much thank you so
much for all you
[42:01] doing thank you we appreciate it
[42:33] yeah we'll we'll take it let let's fine
um so now we move on to General Public
[42:37] comment uh item 4B move on to General
Public comment these are comments on
[42:42] items not appearing on tonight's agenda
and uh we'll acknowledge people in
[42:46] Chambers
[42:50] first no there you go there you go no no
there you go
[43:00] right there am I good now yeah I'm
Christie president CEO of the Pacific
[43:05] Grove chamber we have a really fun month
ahead and I just want to give you a
[43:10] heads up on all of our events coming up
starting tomorrow with the Parade of
[43:13] Lights be down there at six o'clock on
lighthouse we have 57 entries including
[43:18] Santa then Saturday is still will fun in
the park 11 to 2:00 Santa will be there
[43:25] as well lot of fun for the kids and it's
all free um Tuesday is our holiday at
[43:30] the ends we're almost sold out we're
going to sell 500 tickets this year
[43:35] we're at almost 400 right now so get
your ticket if you want to go they're
[43:38] $30 that's from 5 to 9 on Tuesday the
10th then we're bringing for the
[43:43] business improvement district we have um
it's called shop zip and stroll from 5:
[43:49] to 9 on Thursdays December 12th and the
19th and Santa will be down there hot
[43:56] chocolate stores will be open do your
last minute shopping downtown Pacific
[44:01] Grove and that'll be all over lighthouse
we have a lot of stores that are open
[44:04] that usually are not open at night and
then we're looking for carolers so if
[44:08] you know anybody send them our way thank
you thank you miss
[44:20] m tonight not only to congratulate the
new council members and the new May well
[44:26] the new council member the reelected
council member and the mayor but also
[44:29] really to introduce myself as the
supervisor elect and and encourage
[44:35] everybody on the deis that to reach out
to me in my new role I take office on
[44:41] January 7th and I really feel so
strongly that you know all the things
[44:46] that I talked about on the camp campaign
Trail all the things that I would like
[44:50] to accomplish as The Fifth District
supervisor together if we work together
[44:55] we will do so much much more so I'm
looking forward to hearing from all of
[44:59] you what your vision is for Pacific
Groove what are the big things you want
[45:03] to get done what are the little things
that you need our help at the
[45:06] supervisor's level to help you with and
just to really encourage everyone to
[45:11] please stay in touch let's work together
let's do this work together and I know
[45:15] that the future is really bright so
thank you all for just giving me a
[45:19] moment here to to introduce myself as
the incoming supervisor to congratulate
[45:25] you all and to just really Express how
much I'm looking forward to working with
[45:30] every one of you and um so with that
have a great meeting
[45:36] congratulations and I look forward to
hearing from you all soon and if I don't
[45:39] you'll hear from me I
promise thank you very much surv l
[45:45] Daniels I'm back so embarrassed I just
can't hear very well um congratulations
[45:51] to you all nice to have a new Council
and we all thank you for your service
[45:56] because we know takes a lot of time um I
just came to tonight for a little status
[46:01] report about the BBB which is the bring
back the butterflies and the butterflies
[46:05] for you new council members is a stained
glass window that's hung for four
[46:10] decades in the Homan building and now we
are doing the BBB is the bring the
[46:15] butterflies back committee and we're
trying to get public Outreach to see
[46:21] whether or not the public wants this
before we resubmit the gift and where
[46:26] they'd like to have it and I can tell
you that just like it was when they were
[46:30] in the in front of the B brn
bnrc people are wildly supportive of
[46:36] this gift they also by far and way
support having it installed in the front
[46:44] curved window of the museum I mean it's
it's a perfect place for it it fits
[46:50] there it's going to be lighted from the
back I was at the tree lighting on
[46:56] Monday the kids were up on the steps
singing carols and you could see the
[47:00] curved windows but if you can imagine
that it's made for there it it fits in
[47:05] there it's beautiful next year if you
guys accept it it'll be shining down on
[47:12] those kids and it's going to be awesome
so but I did did want to give you a
[47:16] little update we've been going in front
of the markets in front of what
[47:19] butterfly weekend and in front of the
post office and I want to give you a
[47:23] couple of the comments that have been
made because I think it gives you an
[47:26] idea how much the public really likes
this um is there anything about this
[47:32] that doesn't make sense this is that's a
firm yes that's excellent the perfect
[47:37] place after all it's butterfly town it's
part of our history the city ought to
[47:43] jump at this I hope to see it I don't
know anybody who wouldn't want this I
[47:48] like that it would be nice for people to
see that I think it would go perfectly
[47:52] in our town we did ask for other
locations but but the city has pretty
[47:57] much put thumbs down on the idea of it
being outside somewhere you know like
[48:02] some of the people wanted it to be
between the two
[48:06] lighthouses and but there's it's there's
a vandalism problem it's just not very
[48:11] good so we're now going we've we've done
a lot of Outreach to the public we're
[48:16] continuing to do it we have talked to
hundreds of people and our group has
[48:21] been working very hard and so we're
going to come here periodically to let
[48:25] you know and when we get everything set
up we're meeting with the business
[48:29] Community next week but so far we talk
to the people um that are building the
[48:34] new hotel there on Central this isn't
working very well um but anyway they're
[48:40] really in favor of it because it'll be
such a nice thing to have that square
[48:43] there with the hot brand new hotel and
the library and the museum and the
[48:47] rotary gave him some nice uh picnic
benches now that we have there so it'll
[48:53] be just fabulous that's that's three
months going to move on to the next
[48:57] thank you very much thank you um and uh
is there anyone else in Chambers wishing
[49:01] to speak please come forward okay is
there anyone else in Chambers okay if
[49:05] you guys could queue up if you want to
speak come please queue up in the
[49:10] front evening welcome and I'm really
excited about this new Council and our
[49:16] new mayor um regarding my name is Carol
mord and name member and I live in
[49:22] Pacific Grove regarding the land
acknowledgement I can't believe that was
[49:27] the first thing that new member new
council member Z would bring up because
[49:32] I want to emphasize that we all belong
here this land belongs to all of us so
[49:39] more on that later but I'm going to
address the uh position of w BR bre's
[49:46] position and I am I was reading on a
website called well uh PG aggressive
[49:56] party and they are congratulating their
members which and they should
[50:02] congratulate their members and they are
who are are the Democrats are who are on
[50:08] this
Council I like you to consider the fact
[50:13] that there um on this website PG
Progressive is you know some we holding
[50:20] a sign saying executive Trump I'm sure
there's many people in California who
[50:25] feel that way
but you also have to remember diversity
[50:30] and there are people who are
Independents uh they're Republicans who
[50:34] have different points of view and I hope
that the person you select for Debbie
[50:39] Vex Position will represent somebody
other than Democrats or leftwing people
[50:47] thank
you okay let's check with one more
[50:53] the Mr I'm just a reminder that you only
need to be um four to 5 Ines you should
[50:59] be four to five inches from the um
microphone otherwise it's very garbled
[51:04] well I have a loud voice so I don't know
about 45 inches but that's okay my name
[51:08] is Alex Miller and I am a council member
with the great city of Seaside Seaside
[51:12] and Pacific Grove have a lot in common
we used to share a police chief our
[51:17] police chief used to wear Seaside patch
on one side and Pacific Grove Patch on
[51:20] the other we are friends I promise we
both live on the we both our cities are
[51:25] both located on the best place of the
world on the montere peninsula we have
[51:29] hearts of gold and we are great people
everywhere on the peninsula I'm here as
[51:33] a council member to recognize the
incoming Council and our new and the
[51:37] Pacific Grove new mayor Mr Smith and
congratulations and a well hardfought
[51:42] campaign uh we want to strengthen the
bond with the with the cities on the
[51:46] coast if we strengthen the bonds on the
communities and the cities on the coast
[51:49] and the county we will be stronger
together I do remember meeting the new
[51:55] mayor M Nick Smith at a cal cities event
and Cal cities is a lobbyist uh part
[52:03] branch of California and
Sacramento
[52:06] and being a council member one of the
greatest Parts is the joys in the
[52:11] journey the joy is meeting the people
meeting fellow council members meeting
[52:16] the people of our community and when I
was at the restaurant at the hotel that
[52:21] we were staying at in Pasa rbl I was
fortunate enough to sit next to Mr Smith
[52:28] and Mr Smith and I
immediately uh started talking law and
[52:33] politics and things that are important
to Everyday People things that are
[52:38] important to the youth things that are
important to the elderly things that are
[52:42] important to our community and it was so
refreshing the ideas that he was talking
[52:47] about because I shared similar similar
thinking and similar ideologies as him
[52:52] and as he embarks on this new Journey as
mayor we want to say from the city of SE
[52:57] side we wish you the best of luck and we
list we wish the new council members as
[53:02] well the best of luck and we look
forward to working with everybody thank
[53:05] you so much for your time thank you
council member Miller appreciate
[53:10] it all right we'll go go ahead and check
the online see if anyone like to make a
[53:14] general public
[53:19] comment see a hand
[53:24] raed thank you um first I'd like to well
i' certainly like to congratulate the
[53:31] new mayor and the new council members I
very much appreciate Tina ral's
[53:37] leadership right from the start um with
the uh suggestion
[53:45] recommendation that uh meetings start
also with a indigenous land
[53:52] acknowledgement um the
this land was taken from the native
[53:59] people who lived here uh the current
indigenous people the descendants of the
[54:07] people who were there at that time um
have ancestors here
[54:13] and I I have trouble understanding the
threat people feel in acknowledging that
[54:21] um this they lived a different way on
the land and and current Society in the
[54:28] face of uh climate change is
recognizing that the traditional
[54:35] indigenous ways of living on the land
and and how they use resources um the
[54:43] the respect they had um for the land and
the Sea were a tremendous
[54:52] um model to follow as whether we're
doing cultural burning now with the uh
[54:59] state state parks or um is so many
different ways that we that we are
[55:06] learning um and and practicing this so I
do hope that that the City of Pacific
[55:14] Grove will adopt uh land acknowledgments
it's a very simple but meaningful step
[55:21] in
recognizing what who who has gone before
[55:27] who is still here the Native Americans
who are still here and suffering from
[55:32] from uh how they were brutally treated
um I'd also like to say really quickly
[55:40] even though it's too late uh and the May
mayor Peak has probably gone home former
[55:46] mayor Peak but I do want to say how much
I appreciated his respect for the public
[55:51] his respect on the dis for public
comment and the fact that he went to I I
[55:58] can't I don't even know how many
different uh board and commission
[56:02] meetings he must have gone to all I know
is from from my zoom uh vantage point
[56:09] there was the back of his head all the
time so I appreciate that connection and
[56:13] that respect for the work that boards
and commissions do um and of course
[56:19] salute ket's tremendous contributions to
to the city as well right thank you very
[56:25] much
thank you okay we're going to move on to
[56:29] the consent agenda close public comment
general public comment we're going to
[56:33] move on to the consent agenda at this
time dealing with non with routine and
[56:36] non-controversial items um and I will
ask the council is there anyone wishing
[56:41] to pull any of these items
tonight seeing none I'll go ahead and
[56:46] ask the public is there anyone in the
public wishing to pull a consent agenda
[56:50] item
[56:52] tonight seeing done go ahead and all
retain action on the consent agenda
[56:58] motion to approve I have a motion on the
floor council member amilio second
[57:02] second by council member
Ral any
[57:07] discussion okay we'll go for a voice
voice Voice vote all in favor say I I
[57:12] any opposed passes unanimously 60 thank
you very much everyone we uh passed the
[57:17] consent agenda we're going to move on to
the regular agenda this is item 11 um
[57:22] public hearings and we're going to move
on to 11a ordinance to amend the
[57:26] reschedule and I'm going to acknowledge
at this time Stephanie arola management
[57:29] analyst with
City good evening mayor council members
[57:33] staff members of the public today I'm
here to present an ordinance to amend
[57:38] the salary schedule minimum wage this
will go into effect January 1 of 2025
[57:43] California minimum wage will change from
$16 to
[57:48] $16.50 hourly for employees the city has
a couple of impacted classifications
[57:53] which include the cashier for the
lighthouse
[57:56] interns Lighthouse dosent coordinator
Recreation assistant one and we also
[58:02] have one classification which needs to
be adjusted to avoid classification um
[58:07] salary compaction issues which is
Recreation assistant 2 and as for fiscal
[58:13] impact um there is no fiscal impact
since the minimum wage was taken into
[58:17] consideration for this fiscal year and
this concludes my presentation thank you
[58:22] thank you very much great report nice
and concise uh we'll go ahead and take
[58:26] take it out to the public uh in Chambers
first seeing no one wishing to comment
[58:31] on this item or go ahead and ask the
public online if anyone would like to
[58:34] comment on item
[58:37] 11a mayor okay I'll bring I'll close
public comment on 11a bring it back to
[58:42] the council for
Action I'd like to move recommended
[58:46] action and uh request the City attorney
to read the title of the ordinance
[58:49] excellent thank
[58:53] you this is an ordinance of the city C
Council of the City of Pacific Grove
[58:58] amending the salary classification
schedule to comply with the California
[59:01] minimum
wage okay and and I move to v f the
[59:06] reading of the ordinance my suggestion
on that regard um council member P would
[59:11] be uh to make a motion um to approve the
remaining recommended actions um make a
[59:17] motion to move the remaining recommended
actions second we have a motion by
[59:21] council member D second by amilio uh any
further discussion on this item
[59:27] seeing none I'll call for a Voice vote
all in favor say I I any opposed seeing
[59:33] none passes unanimously 60 thank you
very much Miss arola and we will go
[59:39] ahead and go past 12 and go straight to
13 this is 13A the mayor protm selection
[59:46] process and I will acknowledge our city
clerk Sandra
[59:50] kandal thank you honorable mayor council
members and uh staff and members of the
[59:55] public
article 11 of the charter of the Pacific
[59:58] Grove uh City of Pacific Grove States
the council shall choose one of its
[1:00:01] members to serve as mayor Pro temporary
during the absence of the mayor council
[1:00:06] policy
00-28 which is also attached to the
[1:00:09] Agenda Report sets forth the process
tonight's recommendation is to select a
[1:00:14] mayor Pro tempor in accordance with
Charter and Council policy through
[1:00:19] nominations from city council this
concludes my report thank
[1:00:24] you thank you very much s we'll go ahead
and take it out to the public in
[1:00:28] Chambers uh for a comment on the May
prend itting seeing none we go ahead and
[1:00:33] check with the online uh
attendees any comment on the mayor for
[1:00:38] time item No Hands raised mayor seeing
them we'll close public comment bring it
[1:00:43] back to the council and I'm going to go
ahead and Lead it off here
[1:00:48] um I'm going to go ahead at this time
and nominate uh council member Joe
[1:00:52] amilio Joe amilio has been on the
council since uh 2018 he's a senior
[1:00:56] council member at this time and so he is
my nomination for mayor
[1:01:01] proem um he's always been reliable and
always at at the meetings and um he's
[1:01:08] willing to do the work so I'm nominating
him at this time and at this time I'll
[1:01:12] take any further nominations from the
that anyone wish to make if if any
[1:01:16] please let me
know I I'll second old nomination and uh
[1:01:21] U Joe looking forward to
it any further comments the council okay
[1:01:28] then um with that I will close the
nominations or do we need a motion for
[1:01:33] that um it does say in the agenda a
motion is made to close nomination so so
[1:01:39] moved okay now you need a second second
Was a Race to the second but okay any
[1:01:46] further discussion okay we'll go ahead
and take it to a Voice vote all in favor
[1:01:51] I I any opposed hearing none passes
unanimously 60 thank you very much
[1:01:57] everyone our new mayor Joe yeah hold on
one second the agenda also says that
[1:02:03] it's going to be a roll call vote um
okay so back it up my my assumption is
[1:02:08] that what you just voted on was to close
the nomination so now uh we'll need a
[1:02:14] roll call vote uh to confirm the
nomination my apologies that's correct
[1:02:18] so go ahead and take a roll call vote
Miss
[1:02:21] kandall thank
you Council
[1:02:27] round council member
durri mayor
[1:02:32] Smith council member
[1:02:36] milia council member McDonald hi and
council member walkingstick I motion
[1:02:43] carries
70 that's great thank you very much uh
[1:02:47] 60 um uh unanimous vote um and our
congratulations to our new mayor proor
[1:02:54] Joe Amelia thank you okay and so we'll
go ahead and go to uh 13B which is uh
[1:03:00] our last agenda item this is a
discussion of the process for filling
[1:03:04] our vacancy here on the city
council um and so I will acknowledge Mr
[1:03:09] mogenson now thank you mayor Smith and I
will try to be as um expedient as Miss
[1:03:15] Roy um so everybody's aware the council
member Beck has resigned from the
[1:03:21] council effective the end of the meeting
on November 20th uh and our city Charter
[1:03:26] provides a process for when we have a
vacancy on our Council um that that
[1:03:31] process is fairly high level but it
describes the council appointing a
[1:03:35] council um making an appointment and if
the council doesn't make that
[1:03:39] appointment then within 30 days the
mayor can make an appointment so the
[1:03:43] city clerk U to to get us moving within
this process here has created an
[1:03:46] application form that we'll be able to
use to for for those interested in
[1:03:51] applying for this position to to use to
apply um so tonight we brought forward
[1:03:56] some recommendations on how the council
can go through the go about this process
[1:04:00] and uh once we kind of lay these out
we'd like to you know have the council's
[1:04:03] discussion and give direction on exactly
how you would like to go about it so our
[1:04:08] our um our recommendation includes
opening up an application period that'll
[1:04:12] go from roughly um tomorrow through
January 3rd and um in that time
[1:04:17] anybody's interested to submit to be a
council member can submit an application
[1:04:22] along with any other information that
they'd like to to provide as well
[1:04:25] supplemental information I mean after
January 3rd we'll close the application
[1:04:29] period so we won't take any more
applications at that point and then um
[1:04:35] on January 15th I should step back prior
to the the meeting on January 15th all
[1:04:41] the applications will be packaged
together and then published on the city
[1:04:44] council agenda and on January 15th the
council will um will hold a hearing if
[1:04:50] if you will almost so we we'll we'll
provide a Agenda Report that's going to
[1:04:54] have all the ations with the information
but we're going to redact all the
[1:04:58] personal information of course um the so
during the the meeting the council will
[1:05:03] ask questions um of of the applicants
but we're going to give each applicant a
[1:05:08] short period of time say five minutes if
that's if that's what you desire for
[1:05:12] them to give their their um their put
their best foot forward if you will and
[1:05:16] to you know present to the council the
reason why they they' be a good a good
[1:05:20] nomination for the council uh following
that the council will will um ask
[1:05:24] further questions if you wish to of the
applicants but you will also deliberate
[1:05:29] and then ultimately you'll make a motion
and begin your voting process and before
[1:05:34] I before I complete my report I will ask
the City attorney if I've omitted
[1:05:40] anything well I would just add uh to
what you've commented on I didn't hear
[1:05:44] you mention this you might have um as
shown on the application form which is
[1:05:49] attached to the Agenda Report um the uh
applications are to be obtained um from
[1:05:58] the city clerk uh either um upon request
by an email to the city clerk or or uh
[1:06:05] coming in person to make that request
and then the application form would be
[1:06:09] returned to the city clerk as well and
uh her email address is uh in the um uh
[1:06:14] application form itself I I would also
mention that um applications that are
[1:06:20] received after January 3D which is the
deadline will not be considered by the
[1:06:24] city council
and I have nothing more to
[1:06:28] add Mr Mayor if I could also just in
your deliberations tonight if you could
[1:06:33] give us some direction as to items
number I guess five and six I think
[1:06:40] that's going to be the heart of the
process on January 15th just um a
[1:06:44] concurrence of whether or not you
believe that's a correct process or if
[1:06:47] any of it needs to be
[1:06:50] modified okay very good is that all for
now
[1:06:56] okay thank you very much Mr mogenson and
thank you Mr perck for the time that you
[1:07:01] spent to think through all of these
things uh the language of the charter
[1:07:07] was um pretty you know just very clear
and so you guys went through and kind of
[1:07:13] made this workable for us which I really
appreciate um and I'm going to go ahead
[1:07:18] and uh take it out to the public in
Chambers to comment on 13B this is the
[1:07:24] vacancy process
[1:07:29] Mr mayor council members uh
congratulations welcome uh my name is Da
[1:07:33] Murphy for this month and next month I'm
on your uh Planning Commission but I'm
[1:07:37] speaking just as a as a resident I'm
assuming applications are public
[1:07:43] information and I would ask that the
city make arrangements to have them
[1:07:48] available on the website um as they come
in not necessarily wait until uh before
[1:07:53] your meeting that's sort of similar to
what you do during an election period
[1:07:58] when the city clerk posts um who has
taken out papers and then who has
[1:08:03] submitted papers so I think that's a
good a good model to follow and I'm also
[1:08:09] assuming that um your discussions about
this would be limited by the brown act
[1:08:16] the same way any other issue that that
comes before you thank
[1:08:22] you anyone else in the Chambers wishing
to speak about the VAC
[1:08:26] item we'll go to take it out to the
online um anyone online wishing to speak
[1:08:32] about the vacancy item I see one hand
yes
[1:08:40] r hi this is my Gi Oh that's
Fred
[1:08:48] hello I have your name as Fred is this
Mr Gibs yes it is okay goe
[1:09:01] ahead go ahead Mr Gibs go ahead Mr
[1:09:08] Gibbs all right let's go to miss
Garcia
[1:09:12] hello hi goe ahead this this is uh Mike
Gibbs Alias red I'm
[1:09:20] uh I am a member of the economic
development commission and uh and
[1:09:25] speaking on my own behalf ioko Mr
Murphy's questions it would be great to
[1:09:30] have these available before they appear
in the packet so everybody can bruse
[1:09:34] them and that U I'm assuming there will
be no discussions about the applicants
[1:09:40] uh outside of the brown act um I think
that's probably a given my only question
[1:09:45] is
really my only question is really um if
[1:09:52] uh if one of the candidates is out of
town on the 15th will it be possible for
[1:09:58] that candidate to have their five
minutes uh via Zoom calling in Via Zoom
[1:10:04] to make the presentation of their
qualifications that's all I have thank
[1:10:12] you thank you carita
[1:10:19] Garcia thank you very much um I would
Echo Mr Murphy's uh comments and
[1:10:24] requests as well
um I do have a question um so the last
[1:10:29] day for the applications to be accepted
is that by 5:00 pm or midnight um if
[1:10:37] that could be clarified thank
[1:10:43] you we
[1:10:47] back thank you um and I agree with Mr
Murphy Miss Garcia and um regarding the
[1:10:54] brown act I think that extremely
important right now and the fact that
[1:10:58] for the past two years we have worked
very hard on transparency so I would
[1:11:02] encourage everyone to be very careful on
Council as we move forward through the
[1:11:07] application process thank
[1:11:12] you no further hands are raised um thank
you very much we'll go ahead and close
[1:11:17] the online public comment bring back to
the council for
[1:11:21] discussion uh council member yeah I have
asking for some clarification from Mr
[1:11:32] bar people calling and trying to whip
votes and that kind of thing can you
[1:11:38] maybe give us some guidance and if the
answer is that they shouldn't be doing
[1:11:41] that can you just make a statement
tonight to let people know that they
[1:11:46] need to refrain from reaching out right
thank you for asking that question um I
[1:11:50] can't stop the candidates from reaching
out um but I can give you advice um
[1:11:56] which I will do right now um which is
that if you are contacted by a candidate
[1:12:01] my recommendation is that you um direct
them to the city manager if they have
[1:12:06] any questions regarding the application
process um the reason for that is uh a
[1:12:11] matter of due process and transparency
so that um the uh opportunity for the
[1:12:17] council and the public um to hear from
the applicants will be at the meeting on
[1:12:23] January 15 they uh the city manager has
indicated that he's recommending that we
[1:12:29] expand the public comment period from
the standard 3 minutes to to give each
[1:12:33] candidate five minutes um also there'll
be an opportunity for council members to
[1:12:38] ask questions um of the applicants as
well so um there will be that
[1:12:43] opportunity for communication um and
beyond that the application form as you
[1:12:48] can see in your
packet um does include um a reference to
[1:12:54] the information that would be um
requested which would be a brief
[1:12:58] description of background and
qualifications and further excuse me
[1:13:03] that additional information may be
attached on separate sheets and
[1:13:07] attachment of a resume is desirable so
there's multiple opportunities for
[1:13:12] applicants to communicate with the
council um uh with regards to their
[1:13:16] background and qualifications and their
interest in the position and as I said
[1:13:20] there's opportunities for the council to
ask questions and this will all be in a
[1:13:24] public meeting so that the council and
the public will be hearing those
[1:13:28] Communications so my recommendation is
that if you are contacted by candidates
[1:13:33] is that you um direct them to the city
manager who could respond to questions
[1:13:37] that they may have about the application
process because we want to make sure
[1:13:41] that that's clear and understood as far
as the January 3rd date I heard one of
[1:13:45] the members of the public ask about the
time my advice is that we make it 5:00
[1:13:50] that's the end of the business day um so
I would suggest that that be added to
[1:13:55] the recommended action which is the
motion where it says January 3rd we
[1:14:00] would add to that at 5:00
p.m as far as the brown Act is concerned
[1:14:05] um um that's what I'm here for so if
anybody has any questions about that as
[1:14:10] we go along through this process um
certainly getting in touch with me but I
[1:14:14] can just advise you now and the public
as well that the whole purpose of the
[1:14:19] brown Act is to make sure that items
happen excuse me in public so rather
[1:14:24] than uh through um I don't want to say
back channels but through offline
[1:14:29] Communications especially for a position
such as a ccil member we want to make
[1:14:34] sure that it's an open transparent due
process um uh procedure that we that we
[1:14:41] follow here and that's why the city
manager I think is um recommending the
[1:14:46] process that that you see in this Agenda
Report um so I can certainly if that
[1:14:50] hasn't answered all your questions I'm
I'm a lawyer I can answer questions so
[1:14:55] just ask me the next one all thank you
very much Council council member mcdonal
[1:15:01] thank you mayor and um to follow up on
that we had a question about whether a
[1:15:04] candidate could speak over Zoom at this
meeting should we cover that at this
[1:15:07] time as well or can you answer that yeah
we could cover that um attendance at
[1:15:11] meetings is allowed both in person and
by zoom and um the agenda uh itself does
[1:15:18] say that so I don't think we need to add
that un unless you all felt it was
[1:15:24] necessary but um any any member of the
public applicants or otherwise um are
[1:15:31] are aail they they can attend by
[1:15:36] Zoom Council thank you um I wanted to
just clarify a couple of things to um
[1:15:43] the so so at any point in time between
now and January 15th the council is not
[1:15:48] uh expected to engage with any of the
applicants
[1:15:53] correct I'm sorry you asked it you
should engage in discussions with the
[1:15:57] candidates yeah no correct um you should
just say one thing okay speak to the
[1:16:03] city manager got it and um the um the
applications itself uh will they be uh
[1:16:10] posted on the website uh if not posted
on the website will they be available to
[1:16:14] the council prior to January 3rd they
will be attached to the um Agenda Report
[1:16:21] which goes out for the April excuse me
for the Janu anuary 15th meeting um
[1:16:26] which generally is posted on the
Wednesday or Thursday prior to that and
[1:16:31] and that Agenda Report is posted on the
city's website so the council will uh
[1:16:36] see the applications at that time as
well as the
[1:16:39] public okay
um and and then I wanted to just find
[1:16:44] out if is there a time constraint on um
essentially appointing someone here the
[1:16:51] charter doesn't um specify a time
constraint um so if for whatever reason
[1:16:59] you know you weren't able to come to a
decision on January 15th and you needed
[1:17:03] to you know have another meeting later
some future date to to discuss that you
[1:17:08] could do that um the only time reference
that's in uh article 12 is the 30-day
[1:17:14] vacancy um and if the vacancy has been
um more than 30 days then the mayor uh
[1:17:22] has the opportunity to make the
appointment uh how ever as you saw in
[1:17:26] the Agenda Report mayor Smith has
indicated that um he does not intend to
[1:17:31] exercise that power if you will to
appoint unilaterally um is that his
[1:17:38] preference is again as shown in the um
Agenda Report is to uh seek the input
[1:17:45] from Council a vote by Council on on
their preferred candidate and and he has
[1:17:49] said that he will abide by the the the
vote and and only if for whatever reason
[1:17:54] the council's unable to to reach um uh
agreement um at least by a majority vote
[1:18:00] on a candidate then um you know you need
to have someone appointed to fill a
[1:18:04] vacancy then then the mayor would take
the opportunity to do it at that point
[1:18:08] but not before okay understood um the
the five minutes timeline is that uh
[1:18:15] like set in stone or or can that be
changed on January 15th if if there are
[1:18:19] too many applicants for instance the the
timeline on submission of applications
[1:18:24] or the timeline for the inter for the
application the applicants present to
[1:18:28] the council and the time duration is 5
minutes as is written in the report is
[1:18:33] that five minute five minutes set in
stone or no okay you could make it
[1:18:37] whatever time you wish I mean I I would
say it should be at least three minutes
[1:18:43] because that's how long you allow you
know general public comment five minutes
[1:18:47] was a suggestion if you want to make it
longer than five minutes you could do
[1:18:51] that as well okay all right thank you
I think he's suggesting perhaps that
[1:18:57] council member that if we have 10
applicants or 15 we would want a shorter
[1:19:02] time so um perhaps uh we would just I
could have some leeway to deter we could
[1:19:08] have leeway at the time to determine uh
how long of a time we give folks
[1:19:13] depending yeah the answer that is yes
the mayor is the presiding officer does
[1:19:18] have the authority to expand or contract
um the time that the speaker uh would
[1:19:25] have to speak and and typically the
considerations that mayor Smith has just
[1:19:30] mentioned which would be if you have 10
applicants that you know if you give
[1:19:34] them each 10 minutes then you're you
know talking about substantial period of
[1:19:38] time maybe if you have fewer applicants
maybe give them a little more time so
[1:19:43] the applicants should be nimble and and
be able if they're told on the on the on
[1:19:49] the night that um you know they've only
got five they should be prepared to to
[1:19:54] trim their comments to five or if
they're going to get more time they they
[1:19:58] might want to have a a backup plan to
you know have some additional points
[1:20:01] they want to make thank you very much
follow Council I was just going to say
[1:20:07] that uh the council the attorney has
mentioned that the applicants need to be
[1:20:11] nimble so duly noted and and and I just
wanted to ensure that from a timing
[1:20:17] standpoint my my real concern is really
the number of applicants so uh the
[1:20:22] January 15th meeting uh
this will be the priority right this is
[1:20:26] for Mr mogenson are there going to be
other agenda items that are a priority
[1:20:31] um if you could push them to the back
half of the agenda so that we could
[1:20:35] finish this first yeah yeah we certainly
could um you know so the district voting
[1:20:39] won't be uh scheduled for January 15th
so that'll be one of the bigger items in
[1:20:43] the next couple months U we will have
business because we'll have taken a
[1:20:46] month between meetings but okay but we
can definitely prioritize this all right
[1:20:51] thank you uh mayor
yes uh Mr
[1:20:56] perck so um and I'm just going to use
this for an example uh we get um someone
[1:21:04] wants to be on uh the economic
development Commission in the past we've
[1:21:09] seen applicants who this is my
recommendation for that but if the
[1:21:14] applicants are coming in why can't the
council see which applicants are coming
[1:21:20] in I mean if let's say two applicants
come in why can't we all see it and not
[1:21:27] discuss it but just see it online U to
us see the application forms yeah well
[1:21:33] to see the app you indicated on January
if we go to January 15th they're going
[1:21:39] to be
um that's what we'll see everybody but
[1:21:44] we should see the applicants before if
we get five or six we should see all
[1:21:50] those applicants before before what
January 15th yeah don't you think I'm
[1:21:55] not sure how that's going to work you
mean you have another meeting before
[1:21:58] January 15 no no I'm just saying you're
talking about one onine if suddenly we
[1:22:04] uh let's just say um M candale suddenly
gets five applications right uh rather
[1:22:12] than waiting till January 15th can't we
see them before my advice is no my
[1:22:17] advice is that in order to keep this as
a transparent due process procedure that
[1:22:24] we
follow the um guidelines that you see in
[1:22:28] the Agenda Report which would be
applications are submitted applications
[1:22:33] are attached to an agenda report that
Agenda Report gets published with the
[1:22:38] agenda a week approximately prior to
your council meeting and at that council
[1:22:43] meeting you and all the members of the
public have an opportunity to hear from
[1:22:48] each applicant um I consulted with the
city manager on this and this is the
[1:22:53] process that we came up with that we
felt was the the most fair to um to
[1:23:00] everyone okay
yeah uh any other council members
[1:23:05] wishing to comment on
this I do have a clarifying question yes
[1:23:10] um on the application itself it uh I I
wanted to know if all of the fields
[1:23:14] there are mandatory you have three modes
of uh contact that I saw there um uh
[1:23:19] their home number their work number and
their email because these are going to
[1:23:23] be public documents maybe they don't
want to share their work number uh if
[1:23:28] they just put in their uh their email
would that be adequate so do you want to
[1:23:33] take that one or I'll just keep rolling
here um so so the answer first my first
[1:23:38] response to that is that um as we
indicate on the form that the personal
[1:23:44] information is is going to be uh
redacted or removed from the application
[1:23:49] form so that won't be um visible uh as
part of of the agenda packet um and if
[1:23:57] someone you know for whatever reason
didn't want to reveal their work number
[1:24:02] um and that's certainly not going to
cause the applicant not to be qualified
[1:24:09] if you will to to submit the application
that that information is primarily for
[1:24:14] contact reasons if there was a need to
to contact them maybe for example they
[1:24:19] might say on the application form see
attachment and then the application
[1:24:23] comes for comes in and there's no
attachment so this is a way to you know
[1:24:28] follow up with the applicant and say you
know we didn't get the attachment can
[1:24:32] you send that into us it's not intended
to um for any other purpose and and and
[1:24:38] and as I said that information isn't is
not going to be Public public knowledge
[1:24:43] excellent all right well um heard some
comments or would you like to make a
[1:24:49] comment okay um so uh I'm looking for
some action on this
[1:24:55] I help with that maybe on the
recommendation um if you wanted on
[1:24:59] recommendation number two um which is
would be the motion um I would ask that
[1:25:04] you supplement the motion that's in the
agenda by adding uh after January 3 uh
[1:25:12] 2025 the time so it'll be January 3 2025
at 5:00 pm and and then um also include
[1:25:20] in the motion uh that the council's
approving the procedure for the January
[1:25:25] 15th meeting as described in the agenda
um with the exception of the uh time
[1:25:32] limit um which is five minutes that that
would be uh left open to um
[1:25:38] determination at the time of the January
15th meeting and if you don't want to
[1:25:43] have to repeat everything I just said
you could just make a motion consistent
[1:25:47] with the statements so were just made by
the City attorney would anyone like to
[1:25:50] make that motion um I'd like to make the
motion with the statement as was made by
[1:25:55] the City attorney thank you we have a
motion in a second um any discussion
[1:26:01] further discussion here seeing none I'll
go ahead and uh take a Voice vote we
[1:26:07] don't need a roll call on this I think
I'd suggest a roll call yeah we'll take
[1:26:12] a roll call
[1:26:16] then thank you council member round
yes member P hi
[1:26:24] hi mayor
protim
[1:26:28] Camilo Council McDonald
hi stick I motion carries 6
[1:26:38] Z passes unanimously thank you very much
everyone and let me take a look at my
[1:26:43] agenda here I think we have reached the
end of the agenda we have no um
[1:26:48] presentations are closed session so I
thank you all for coming out this
[1:26:51] evening thanks for joining us uh meeting
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