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hey, hey.

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Everyone, [cough and clears throat]
I'll go ahead and call this meeting to

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order on September 8th, 2026 and ask our
city clerk to please call role.

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» Commissioner Henderson,
>> present.

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» Commissioner Smith,
>> here.

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» Commissioner Thomas,
>> present.

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» Commissioner Wilson,
>> present. Mayor Bray,

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» here.
I would ask uh Commissioner Henderson to

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do the invocation and then we'll remain
standing for the national anthem.

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Our
>> father and our God, again, we're

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grateful for the dies you've given us
and for the blessings that we right now

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enjoy. We thank you so much, Father, for
the privilege that you've given us to

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serve this community. Uh we pray now God
that as we uh talk and discuss and share

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that you'll be in the midst of our uh
discussion uh guiding our ideas, guiding

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our understanding. Father, we thank you
again for this privilege. In Jesus name

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we pray. Amen.
>> Amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» City manager, are there any additions or
deletions to the agenda?

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» Mayor, none this evening.
>> Okay. The first thing I have um

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[clears throat] is a proclamation I want
to read. Not going to get up. Nobody

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else is here.
But um October is uh city government

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month and uh this is something that we
we recognize every year. Uh we spend a

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lot of time
educating school children uh about about

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government, about city government. Uh we
think that's important. All the

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commissioners go out and uh talk at the
schools when asked and um so we are

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going to honor this proclamation
tonight.

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And it states, "Whereas civics's
education is important to ensure

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Kentucky children develop an interest
and an understanding of local government

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and their role in the community.
And whereas Kentucky academic standards

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for social studies require instruction
on citizenship and local government for

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entry-level elementary school children.
And whereas involving and informing

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students of local government programs
and duties can provide an opportunity

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for entire families to connect with
vital city services and programs.

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And whereas city government month is a
civics's awareness campaign that

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educates elementary school students
about city services by providing teacher

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lesson plans, students coloring and
activity books and classroom materials.

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And whereas city government month calls
on city officials to get involved in

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their local schools and in educating and
engaging elementary school students in

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city government. Now therefore, I,
George P. Bray, mayor of the city of

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Baduca, hereby [snorts] proclaim
September 2026

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city government month.

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Okay, with that, uh, we have one person
that wants to do public comments.

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Marshall Davis, come on up.
>> Thank you.

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» Hopefully, this won't be like a broken
record. Maybe I'll have a little

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different tune every time, but maybe we
maybe together we can get this done. Uh,

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hopefully. I don't I guess we'll see you
eventually.

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Thank you.
>> Give you a summary of my

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» I'm Marshall Davis. I live at 7
Westville, Paduka, Kentucky. I

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appreciate the opportunity to be here,
mayor, commissioners, manager, and

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clerk. Paduka's current business license
tax taxes the top line of a business,

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not the bottom line, but also adds a tax
break to the largest entities in Paduka.

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Every dollar that flows through a Paduka
business, whether it ultimately ends in

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a profit or loss, is subject to the
levy. The phase threshold increase is a

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welcome administrative improvement, but
it does nothing to address the

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fundamental flaw structure. A business
that loses money still owes city tax and

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small businesses continue to pay a
dramatically higher effective rate than

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those large ones throughout the entire
phase in period.

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Every business with gross receipts at or
below the threshold. The vast major

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majority of Paduka small businesses pay
the full schedule D rate of.3% in every

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year of the phase in the threshold
increase delivers zero benefit to them

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while the relief flows entirely to
businesses large enough to have receipts

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above the threshold and grows more
generous the larger the business. By

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2030, a business with 20 million in
gross receipts pays an effective rate of

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7.178%
less than 60% of what the small business

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next door pays on its 500,000 in
receipts. The same schedule repeats

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across every schedule or the same
pattern. Under schedule C, a small

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restaurant, the neighborhood diner, at
400,000 in receipts, never benefits from

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the rising threshold, while the regional
chain at 10 million sees meaningful rate

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relief each year. Kentucky law
authorizes cities to impose occupational

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license taxes on either net profit or
gross receipts. But the overwhelming

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consensus among Kentucky major cities is
to tax on net profits. The amount

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actually earned after legitimate
business expenses are deducted.

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Consider these municipal taxes.
Lexington, Fyet County, net profit.

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Louisville, Metro net profit. Bowling
Green net profit. Ashlin, Henderson,

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Hopkinsville, Covington, Owensboro, all
net profit tax. Paducas gross receipts

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from 0.045% to a half percent.
Every major Kentucky city business,

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every Kentucky city taxes businesses on
what they actually earn,

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except Paduka. Paduka stands alone in
taxing what merely passes through the

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business's hands, regardless of whether
that business ends the year in profit or

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loss. I urge you to reconsider the
effects of the gross receipts tax and

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implement a net profits tax. Thank you.
Thank you.

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[applause]
Thank you for being here.

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So, I'll move to the consent agenda.
Items on the consent agenda are

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considered to be routine by the board of
commissioners and will be enacted by one

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motion [snorts] and one vote. There will
be no separate discussion of these items

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unless a board member so requests, in
which event the item will be removed

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from the consent agenda and considered
separately. The city clerk will read the

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items recommended for approval unless
any commissioner would like an item

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removed for separate discussion.
I would please I've got questions on F,

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H, and K.
Sorry about that.

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» Okay.

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» Approve minutes for the August 25th,
2026 board of commissioners meeting.

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Receive and file documents. Personnel
actions. A municipal order amending the

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fiscal year 2027 position and pay
schedule for the full-time employees of

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the city of Paduca, Kentucky. A
municipal order amending the job grade

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schedule for the employees of the city
of Paduka, Kentucky for fiscal year

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2027. A municipal order authorizing the
mayor to execute a memorandum of

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agreement with the Commonwealth of
Kentucky, Department of Military

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Affairs, Kentucky Division of Emergency
Management for participation in the

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Kentucky Urban Search and Rescue
Program. A municipal order authorizing

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the mayor to execute an amendment to the
agreement with Tyler Technologies

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Incorporated for software services. a
municipal order authorizing the mayor to

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execute a memorandum of agreement
between the city of Paduca and the

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Commonwealth of Kentucky Transportation
Cabinet Department of Highways in the

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amount of $100,000 for the South 21st
Street Rehabilitation Program. A

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municipal order authorizing and
directing the mayor to execute a lease

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agreement between the city of Paduka and
Paduka Film Society for a lease of

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Maiden Alley Cinema [clears throat]
located at 112 Maiden Alley, Paduca,

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Kentucky. A municipal order authorizing
and directing the mayor to execute a

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lease agreement between the city of
Paduca and River Heritage Museum for

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lease of the River Discovery Center
located at 117 South Water Street,

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Paduca, Kentucky, a municipal order
approving an employment agreement

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between the city of Paduca and Carol G
for employment as the director of

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community development and authorizing
the mayor to execute same.

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» So move
>> second call.

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» Commissioner Henderson I.
>> Commissioner Smith I

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» Commissioner Thomas. Hi.
>> Commissioner Wilson. Hi.

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» Mayor Bray. Hi.
>> Okay, let's take these one at a time.

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You want to take the ones that we pulled
off first? So,

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» item F. Um, a proposed motion of the
board of commissioners to approve a

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municipal order entitled approving
agreements related to the fire

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department training facility water main
project and authorizing the mayor to

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execute all documents related there too.
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» Some moved.
>> Move.

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» Oh. Oh, you took this is what you
wanted.

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» So moved.
>> A second. [laughter]

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» All right, then.
>> You the one wanted.

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» I'm sorry. I I guess [laughter] I guess
I got too excited.

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» He's got a question he wants to ask.
[laughter]

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» He wants to ask it bad.
>> No, just my question was I wasn't it

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wasn't clear to me from reading the
write up is $280,000

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for a enhanced water supply for the fire
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» Yes.
>> Can you explain that?

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» I can. So the the new site that we have,
it does have water up to it, but the

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water that we have up to it is a 6-in
water man that's over a 100 years old.

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Uh it cannot supply the training field
with the supply that's going to be

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needed and hold up under the use that
it's going to get. Uh it it's very

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fragile is I think how Jason would cash
it. Uh while it but it does work today.

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So, they're going to run a new 8-in main
from Caldwell up to the entrance of the

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training field. And what that proposes
is that we split that cost and then from

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the from the point where it ends at the
entrance of the training field on in

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that is our co that is our cost as a
part of the development of the training

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field. But they're going to we're
basically splitting the cost of the

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water man from Caldwell up to Tennessee
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So, and our half is 280,000. And I guess
you're saying Paduka Water's paying 280.

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» They're they're paying up to 280 and
anything over there, it's ours.

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» Okay. And then we have to then we will
spend money once that site is developed

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out. Then we'll spend additional money
to get that water man actually to our

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structure or structures on the fire.
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they consider private development of a
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» No, I could understand that.
>> Okay. So, do we know how much this

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training
all total how much the all in how much

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our cost will be to develop this fire
training area?

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» I I don't have that in front of me
tonight. No, sir. No.

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» Do you know when we could get that cuz
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that kind of going down that
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» well, and so we're getting we're getting
ready to push push out an RFP to do some

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initial development of the site that'll
give us um and we have a limited amount

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of money that's going to be left over
because we weren't expecting to do the

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water man. Uh our goal was to do some
development of the site and and start

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the construction of the tower, if not
get the tower constructed. I do not

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believe we're going to have enough money
to construct the tower now. Um, we're

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the goal is to get the site developed
flat, get our water retention done, get

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our road network inside, and hopefully
get the the extended water man that

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we're looking to operate off of inside
the site. That's what I think we might

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be able to get done with this first
phase. The as far as a bu a buildout

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after that, the biggest structures that
we'll have sometime in the first would

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be the tower. And uh I've got an
estimate of around 3/4 of a million for

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the tower itself. Um but we're not going
to be building that today. It could be

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two years from now. So, you know, those
numbers we'll have to we'll have to get

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them checked again.
Eventually down the road we want a

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classroom facility on the site, but you
know, I that's so far out I don't I

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don't know when we'll get to that. Will
we I mean if we're going to put you know

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a million or whatever it is in the site
will we will there be any kind of a

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agreement with other fire agencies where
uh we can share the cost of developing

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this or is there have we done any work
on that or

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» Well I think we we'll get grant we we
can get access to grant funds and let

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make the site usable to others um but I
I don't anticipate getting any money

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from any other fire departments to
develop the site.

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» Okay. I would just I would like to
propose that we pause action on this

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till we see a holistic plan of the the
of what we plan on spending and doing on

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this developing the fire water tower.
Well, if you go ahead, commissioner,

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» I was just going to say you said the
Paduka water 280,000, but our park could

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be potentially more than the 280,000
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you know that was an estimate that BFW
did for us for that specific part of the

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project. Yes.
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» I don't have a hard number on that
because the project hasn't been let yet.

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» Yeah. But just for clarification, this
part here is separate from the

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development of
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» of the site. And so what had been agreed
by Paduka Waterboard and what I had

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shared over a couple of the briefings
with the commissioners is that the

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estimated cost of this of this first of
the redoing of the pipe uh would be 400

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and some thousand was which was
estimated and it meant that Paduka Water

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was going to cover more than 50% of that
cost on that estimate because ours was

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going to be up that and we were going to
use the funds from the sale of the

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current site to help to to cover this
offsite the cost offset that cost.

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» Haven't voted on some of this before.
>> Well, you you voted on the develing the

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getting the land and doing the
development and and selling the current

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site
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have been voting to go down this road.
>> I just I'm saying this because I I've

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never I've not seen any dollar amounts.
I don't think any of us know exactly how

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much it going to cost to develop this
site out, what we're planning on doing

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and all. It just seems kind of premature
to be going down this pathway. I don't

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mind going down the pathway, but I do
would like to know how much we're

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planning on spending, how much
development cost will be when we're

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planning on spending it. you know, just
instead of just voting for the

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things, you know, one piece at a time
without seeing a big picture. That's all

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I'm saying. I'm not saying there's a
>> Yeah. This, you know, again, what I what

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we had talked about when this had come
up on needing to replace. I had shared

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that in my briefings with the commission
about this aspect of it and how we were

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we're were going that. Um and so you
know from that aspect it's also similar

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to other economic development projects
we've done with Paduka water uh to where

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there is a a [clears throat] failing
portion of the system and we split the

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cost of of that. Uh this this also would
allow for potential additional

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development in that area on the street
side because it's

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» going to improve things for the
southside development.

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» Southside development as well.
>> Well, I'm just going to I'm going to

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jump in here. I mean, I don't think it's
a bad thing, uh, you know, for us to

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take a pause and and make sure that we
understand what the potential of the

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long-term plan is. Um, I mean, I think
it's um I think it's I think it's a good

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some good input. Um, because I'm not
sure all of us really understand what's

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I mean, we're just we're voting on this
and we don't know what the long-term

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plan is. And I think I'd like to see
what the long-term plan is, what the

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estimated cost of the the long-term plan
is. And we could probably get that

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together in a in short order, you know,
within um is there a time issue on this

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vote?
>> I mean, that's how because Paduka Water

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took that to their board to vote for
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» agreement. We pushed Paduka water along
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started on work trying to get it trying
to get this thing moving and the water

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line was unanticipated. I mean the
development of the site we I don't I

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think I'll be able to address your
concerns probably just in a smaller

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conversation maybe to help you
understand but the the water line is a

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is a hijacked it here for us and we
we've got to replace the water line in

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order to have water to the site. We
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that. And we have the sale of of the
current site to JSA dependent upon uh

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we've already done that. We're signing
that paperwork tomorrow, I think. Right.

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» And that money is going to be used to do
the water line for the the new location.

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» So regardless of what it costs, we still
we're going to end up doing this having

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to do this. That is that's what I'm
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do what you're saying.
>> I I think you would as the southside

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developed, you'd end up having to do it
anyway. Yeah. It's just timing and

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whether or not the the training fields
accelerated the timing because we're

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developing trying to get that developed.
>> But the the line that they have there

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today is over 100 years old, 6 in. And
>> there's no line. Anyway,

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» that
um I know we're selling the piece of

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property. going to use proceeds from
that to pay for this as well as other

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development for the new uh training
facility. But it's not like we have to

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spend this. I mean that money can be put
aside for

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» a week, two weeks, a month, whatever
till we have the whole picture what this

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looks like.
>> Sure.

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» Correct. I mean there's no no
hair on fire. But this is

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» Well, mine was
>> my concerns. I'm okay.

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» Yeah. Oh, that actually no pun intended.
[laughter]

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But I mean these are my concerns. They
not may not be the concerns for the rest

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of the group. But that's just one thing
that I just I just have never seen a

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whole holistic thing on the fire
training, what we're planning on doing,

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the steps and all that and all that. So,
>> any other discussion?

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» So, are you making a motion to postpone?
>> I'll make a motion to postpone until we

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can see the holistic plan for the fire
training.

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» Is there another motion on the floor?
>> There is, but if that this would come

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first, we would take a vote on
postponing and then if that fails, we'll

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go back to the original.
>> Okay. And I guess one quick question

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before then. So would this throw off the
timeline for getting this developed if

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we postpone?
>> Well, it does for the timeline I had.

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Yes. But I I mean I I kind of feel like
we're already behind anyway because

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we've we've moved forward in selling the
existing site, not putting any more

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money into it. We've got to have a
training site for our abilities to be

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able to train. Uh the new the a new
tower is a is the most critical

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component of that. and
I'm working as expeditiously as I can to

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try to get that done. Yes,
>> Lindsay, before we vote, would we

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clarify a yes vote or a no vote, what
that stands for?

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» Uh, so right now we have a motion on the
table from Commissioner Smith to

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postpone consideration of this item
until we have an understanding of the

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long-term plan and estimated cost.
>> Correct.

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» Um, that would need a second. A yes vote
would mean we will postpone this item

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for a later date.

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Is there a second to that motion?

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Motion dies for lack of second. So we'll
go back to the original motion and that

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would be to approve [snorts] this going
forward. And we have a motion and a

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second on that already.
>> Call roll.

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» Commissioner Henderson.
>> Yes.

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» I.
>> Commissioner Smith.

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» No.
>> Commissioner Thomas.

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» I. Commissioner Wilson.
>> Hi, Mayor Bray.

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» Hi.
>> Thank you.

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» Now, um, let me just make this. I think
we need to see a plan. I think we need

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to see something documented on what the
long-term plan is for that. I think it's

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it was a good discussion and and it
shows that we've got commissioners

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reading um, you know, our stuff before
they come and so I appreciate that. And

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so, um, let's try to get something
together.

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» Yeah. And that's we're already working.
I mean, we've got, you know, BFW under

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for engagement of services. And so,
that's the process already in place.

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» Cool.
>> Good. Good. I read too. He's not the

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only [laughter]

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» commissioners [laughter] said plural. We
>> Yeah, I didn't mean it like that.

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[laughter]
Okay. Let's move to the next uh next

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item. A proposed motion of the board of
commissioners to adopt a municipal order

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entitled a municipal order authorizing
the mayor to execute a contract for

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services with Paduca Junior College
Incorporated for the community

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scholarship program in the amount of
$100,000.

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» So move
>> second.

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My my comments slash concern is one that
[clears throat] we talked about before,

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maybe I've talked about before, is that
u this fund I believe is pushing $3

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million at uh WKCTC
and I just I don't think that they need

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the money. uh they may want the money,
but I don't think that they I think

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they're overfunded and I don't think
that uh we should be uh making

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contributions to that fund until that
they're spending the money down to where

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the replenishment is needed. So that's
my comment. And so I would propose uh

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not
making the contribution this year

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monitoring their balance to see if uh I
mean because we could spend that

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$100,000 paving for instance. But that's
my motion and that may die from lack of

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second too. But I just want to
>> Well, let's talk about that because um

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Commissioner Smith and I had uh had
lunch um with Eric Stra who's

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um heading up that um that committee out
and and Commissioner Smith is correct,

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you know, in that there's a lump sum of
money out there in that in that fund and

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they spend they spend the earnings off
that each year. But the fund is designed

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to be able to educate everybody from
eighth grade on. So if the fund would go

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away, they could educate everybody
that's in the eighth grade today through

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high school is the way the way I
understand it.

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» Those five years, they would have the
money to pay for them for their two

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years at PTC.
>> Right.

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Um, you know, I've worked with WKCTC the
last two years, urging them to um

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urging them to make sure that they spend
as much of that money as possible.

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meaning [snorts] that we need to make
sure that we've identified people who

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can use scholarships and need
scholarships because a lot of the

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scholarships that are offered go
unclaimed

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um because because the people go they go
somewhere else you know they go to

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college at Murray or Western or UK
whatever [snorts] and um so there's

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something about it that I think needs
you know needs restructure uring um and

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I think at this point WKCTC
has certainly listened to us but they've

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not changed anything
and you know and I'll point out that I

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think the county
provides an annual

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uh stipen to them of 125,000 I believe
I'm correct and we're at 100.

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Um, but this comes up every year and
so

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» I would just say I think if we were
going to pull it and we should have

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probably had WKCTC to be here to give us
their results. I know, you know, as far

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as what you're saying about the
students, I know that they've had

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people, they have staff in the high
schools working with them. They do

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» students. I think they have I might be
saying this wrong. I think they have

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relaxed the rule where they had to sign
up as a freshman to be eligible when

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they graduate so that they could make
sure that every student that qualifies

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can do it. There are certain
qualifications as far as GPA, not being

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in trouble, all of those kind of
qualifications to make them eligible for

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it. But it is an an important tool that
our community has to try to get more

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students to go to college to complete
some type of degree or certificate or

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whatever that they can at WKCTC so
they're at least getting one to two

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years more of school. And I I saw Bruce
come in. I I know that it's used in our

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promotion of our community that we're,
you know, it sets us apart from a lot of

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other communities that we have this
program that some states have it, our

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state doesn't have that program, but our
community does that we provide to your

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education for students in our community.
>> Let me I just want to make sure that

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this doesn't get mischaracterized.
>> I don't think there's anyone saying I'm

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saying it's good program. I'm just
saying that they're overfunded. and to

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talk about it being such a great program
and all it absolutely is, but that is

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not the topic that I'm bringing up. My
topic is that it's overfunded [snorts]

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and that there's plenty of funding.
>> They would say it they have to have that

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a certain minimum to ensure that they
have the money to continue forward.

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That's what I've heard them saying.
>> It's not their guaranteeing, it's our

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money. We're the ones guaranteeing.
>> Well, us, the county, and then they have

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a lot of private donors.
>> Correct.

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But that's just what I'm saying is I'm
just saying that it's overfunded. They

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have
>> uh they have a lot of funds. It's a

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great program. No doubt about it. But
>> I don't want to be characterized.

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» If I'm saying it's not a good program,
I'm supportive of the program, too. I

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just think it's
>> and if we were

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» clearly overfunded.
>> I'm sorry. Go ahead.

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» I think we've had this conversation
before.

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» We have.
>> We have. And I think if we were going to

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defund it or take it away, I think
shouldn't this have shouldn't this have

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been a conversation that we've had with
the school before tonight before we are

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prepared to vote on this?
>> Well, had this conver

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» not only with the school, but I mean to
me the time to have this discussion is

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when we're going through the budget,
>> right?

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» And and so we budgeted 100,000 and
doesn't mean we can't change it because

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we can. Um [snorts] but I think um
you know I think you know a we should we

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should continue discussions with the
school and we should make them even more

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aware that you know that we that we need
to understand better how they're going

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to spend this money and whether or not
they really [snorts] have to have this

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amount of money in a fund
>> and um and B this discussion needs to

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come up before our next budgeting
session.

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was what I would recommend.
>> Well, I I think that we should I think

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my position the last time we talked
about this was that we should make sure

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that we have enough money there to
always do what it is that we're doing

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now. We don't I don't know that we'd
ever want to get to a point where it's

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we're at the at the bare minimum or it
becomes urgent that we have to do

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something. Let's just keep putting it
there so that they can keep accessing it

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as long as they need to.
>> Right. I agree. Just know, you know,

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that they've got a lot of funds.
>> The money is there.

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» You know, the money is there. There's
plenty of money there.

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» Keep on putting it in there. If the
county gives 125, we ought to give 130.

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» Oh, wow. [laughter]
>> Okay.

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» So, so, so maybe maybe we should just do
what we going to do, right?

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» All right.
Um,

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» so to be clear, the motion that's on the
table right now is a motion from

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Commissioner Smith to postpone a vote to
approve this allocation until

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» uh till next year.
>> Until next year.

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» I mean, that was Yeah.
>> So, you're you're essentially proposing

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that we skip the payment for this year.
>> Absolutely. Yeah.

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» And u
but I have a feeling that's going to die

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for lack of a second, too. M
>> based on the conversation,

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» we have a second.

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» Okay, we are back to the original motion
to approve that has um a motion and a

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second.
>> Commissioner Henderson,

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» I.
>> Commissioner Smith,

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» no.
>> Commissioner Thomas,

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» I.
>> Commissioner Wilson,

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» I.
>> Mayor Bray,

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» I

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A proposed motion of the board of
commissioners to adopt a municipal order

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entitled a municipal order authorizing
and directing the mayor to execute a

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lease agreement between the city of
Paduca and Seaman's Church Institute for

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lease of the Seaman's Church Institute
located at 129 South Water Street,

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Paduca, Kentucky.
>> So moved.

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» Second.
Uh my comment on this is that I believe

418
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:39,840
this piece is at $3 a square foot.
>> I think that's right.

419
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:45,440
» And the uh uh
>> I don't think that price has gone up in

420
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:50,880
how many years, [clears throat]
but the uh um

421
00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:57,760
when I go through
research, it's mostly AI stuff, but

422
00:33:53,840 --> 00:34:04,080
generally stuff is going for 12 to $19 a
square foot. I know that um Seaman's

423
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:08,960
Church has gotten a deal on their lease
for they've been around for 30 years,

424
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:12,480
but just seems like we should
not be renewing leases for the same

425
00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:18,000
amount. We should be getting a little
bit more than just the $3 instead of

426
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:26,079
just turn around and re releasing things
at the same rate. So, I'd like to see

427
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:30,159
the lease go up a little bit closer to
market rate than just stay the same

428
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:35,359
without even
anyone considering or discussing what

429
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:40,399
that rate is.
>> And I understand that their lease

430
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:46,159
expires the end of this month. And is
there a clause in their current lease to

431
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:51,359
have them on a monthto month to 19?
Okay.

432
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:59,280
So, do you have a motion?
>> Yes, I'd have I have a motion to pause

433
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:05,280
this till we look at um better rate, a
different rate than just to turn around,

434
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:07,680
renew the rate existing. So, uh delay it
for a month for us to take a good look

435
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,640
at it.
>> Okay, I'll second that.

436
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,079
» Give me just one moment.

437
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:25,839
ready for a vote on postponing
for one month to take a closer look at

438
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:30,720
the rates.
>> Just just for clarification and

439
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:35,760
Michelle, you can I don't know if you
look. So, we've already approved the

440
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:40,240
other leases with Paduka Film Society
and River Heritage Museum.

441
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:46,880
Currently, this lease is all tied up
into one and and it was broken out uh to

442
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,680
uh at the request of one of those lease
holders to be able to have themselves

443
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:54,320
the River Heritage. And so that's how we
got into to breaking those out into

444
00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:56,960
that. I if we pause on this one, I don't
know what impact that might have on the

445
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,359
others since those have already been
approved.

446
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:02,000
» Yeah, I don't know. We'll have to I
think talk about that tomorrow and

447
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:05,520
figure out what the best course of
action forward is for everybody. I mean,

448
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:08,880
everybody's immunable to these changes
and breaking them out. So, I think we

449
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,760
can work through that. I I can't I don't
know off the top of my head exactly how

450
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,599
we'd have to think through that, but we
can figure it out.

451
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:18,640
» Have you already done a study of the
lease? I mean, of the

452
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,920
» So, we did
>> been working on this for a while. I

453
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,520
guess
>> we did some market rates. Uh Chris and I

454
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,800
did earlier this year with another
lease. What we focused on with these

455
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,079
leases are separating them out and
making them shorter and then

456
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:33,440
re-evaluating more of those the rate in
three years. So the focus was more

457
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:36,880
separating them out and making them
shorter than and we know it's

458
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,280
historically been under market. I mean
that's the approach we've typically

459
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,000
taken with them.
>> Did the rates for the other two stay the

460
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:45,119
same?
>> Yes. Yeah.

461
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:49,920
» So we we would only be raising the rate
on Seaman's Church Institute.

462
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:53,119
» Um the um River Discovery and Maiden
Alley they do that dollar a year to

463
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,960
lease. So they don't have a cost per
square foot.

464
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:02,160
» They rent their space for a dollar per
year for the whole facility. young

465
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:05,040
» and Seammens does theirs at so much per
foot per square foot. So they already

466
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:09,480
pay a lot more.
>> Yes.

467
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,480
» Than the other two.

468
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:15,920
» And Commissioner Smith says the rates
the market rate are anywhere from 13 to

469
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:20,079
$19 a square. [clears throat]
>> I don't think we can come up with

470
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:26,160
» Yeah. I don't I think again the point is
we want to study, you know, just take a

471
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:31,359
pause. I'm not I'm not suggesting myself
personally that that I mean Seaman's

472
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:37,359
Church Institute is a great benefit to
Paduka. I mean we're a Rivertown. They

473
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:41,920
do fantastic work. And so that's been
the argument from the beginning, you

474
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:47,680
know, for a low rate was because of the
but I I I don't think it's a bad thing

475
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,000
for us to evaluate where we are in
relation to market.

476
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:55,599
» So,
>> but they're a nonprofit, right? So, we

477
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:58,079
would be looking at raising the rate or
else we would just be approving it

478
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,640
tonight,
>> right? Are you

479
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:04,640
» correct?
I think I mean and we evaluate we come

480
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:09,119
back and say, "Okay, we're going to vote
on the same thing a month from now." But

481
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:12,119
I think we need to understand the market
rates

482
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,960
and also we need to understand make sure
the commission understands Seaman's

483
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:22,800
Institute. I mean, they're a big they're
a nonprofit, but they're a big

484
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,280
organization.
nationwide.

485
00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:29,599
» Well, I know they were heavily recruited
when they were located here, I think, by

486
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:35,839
Mayor Montgomery, uh, because it was a
definitely an anchor for our community

487
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:41,200
that the number of people that come in
for the training definitely have a big

488
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:45,280
economic impact on our community. So, I
think there are other things to be

489
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:48,880
reviewing as well,
>> right?

490
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,720
To keep in mind. I'm not saying to
review that, to keep in mind.

491
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,040
Okay, we have a motion and a second on
the floor.

492
00:38:55,839 --> 00:39:01,920
» Would you explain?
>> Uh, this is to postpone this item for

493
00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:06,320
one month. A yes vote will postpone for
one month.

494
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:10,000
» We say month just till the next to the
October 2nd commission meeting.

495
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:14,000
» That's a special call meeting. Have it
on that one.

496
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,920
» Commissioner Henderson.
>> No.

497
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,599
» Commissioner Smith.
>> I.

498
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,400
» Commissioner Thomas.
>> I.

499
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,400
» Commissioner Wilson. No.
>> Mayor Bray

500
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,800
» I.
>> Motion passes.

501
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:36,400
» Okay. Thanks for the excitement.
>> Yeah. Sorry, I'll be quiet.

502
00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:40,800
» No, you won't.
>> All right. Let's move on uh to municipal

503
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,599
orders.
A proposed motion of the board of

504
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,800
commissioners to adopt a municipal order
entitled a municipal order approving an

505
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,400
agreement between the city of Paduka,
Kentucky and Northwest Tennessee

506
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,920
Disposal Corporation for the transfer,
transport, and disposal of municipal

507
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:59,680
solid waste and authorizing the mayor to
execute the agreement.

508
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:02,680
» So move second.
>> Michelle.

509
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,359
Right.
>> Good evening. Uh mayor, commissioner,

510
00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:11,040
city manager, and city clerk. Uh Chris
Yarbor would typically be presenting

511
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:16,800
this, but of course he is unable to be
here, so you're stuck with me tonight.

512
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:20,560
So this is an important contract for us.
This would be uh basically doing

513
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:24,640
business with uh Republic is who they're
more commonly known as that maintains

514
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:28,320
our transfer station where we take our
solid waste and recyclables and they

515
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:32,800
would trans they're also responsible for
transport transporting and disposing the

516
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:37,359
solid waste and recyclables to the
appropriate facility and then also

517
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:41,119
running our citizen dropoff services.
So um [clears throat]

518
00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:46,000
we did go out for an RFP. They came back
as the lowest evaluated proposal

519
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,280
and the service date. This is similar to
those others where we're shortening the

520
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:54,320
contracts. So the service date under
this agreement would start in September

521
00:40:50,880 --> 00:41:00,800
7th 27th of 2026 and it would be for 5
years with the option to extend for

522
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:03,760
another 5 years. Um really daytoday the
citizens and the businesses won't see

523
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:08,960
much of a difference. This is more of a
backend of you know where we take um our

524
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:12,560
solid waste and recyclables that we pick
up. The biggest change would be the

525
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:18,560
recycling dropoff location. that would
change effective on September 28th. Um,

526
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:22,960
another change in the contract is that
the um, Republic will actually be

527
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:27,440
contributing to our spring cleanup day
and so they'll be contributing $20,000

528
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:32,240
each year. Um, oh, another thing I
wanted to mention is uh, with the

529
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:36,160
citizens not really seeing a change, the
recyclables are staying the same that we

530
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:40,079
currently accept both curbside and at
the drop off facility. Um, I'm glad to

531
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:43,040
talk a little bit about the drop off
facility, but we do have a

532
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,040
representative here from Republic who I
think would like to say a few words if

533
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,040
that's okay.
>> Please.

534
00:41:48,678 --> 00:41:50,698
[clears throat]

535
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,760
» Good evening, commissioners. For the
record, my name is Todd Chamberlain and

536
00:41:54,319 --> 00:42:00,160
I'm the manager of municipal and
government affairs for public services.

537
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:04,880
Um, we're very excited about the
partnership with the city going forward,

538
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:08,160
not just to manage the MSW or the the
trash and the waste that is generated

539
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:13,440
and collected within the city limits,
but also to work with you as a partner

540
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:18,480
on recycling and expand that to drive uh
additional diversions um through the use

541
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:23,440
of our transfer station that we have
that is in very close proximity to your

542
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:28,400
public works facility. In fact, we
sheriff line. So, um, you know, when you

543
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:32,800
look at things and opportunities to, uh,
to find partnerships, there's really

544
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:37,839
some efficiencies and some productivity
that you will benefit from with the

545
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:42,960
proximity of this facility next door.
Um, but as far as recycling goes, our

546
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:49,680
company is feels that recycling and
diversions are absolutely essential uh

547
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:56,319
to the entire wholesale waste management
process. Um, so much so that not only

548
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:59,599
are we focusing on just the keys of
plastics one through sevens, we divide

549
00:42:58,109 --> 00:43:05,920
[clears throat] it into fibers and
rigids with aluminum and uh metal cans

550
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:11,680
and that type of material. But what we
have found is that through partnerships

551
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:17,680
with our national accounts customers
such as PepsiCo, Proctor and Gamble and

552
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:23,040
a lot of large manufacturers, they
simply [snorts] can't get enough plastic

553
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:28,400
to meet their own postconumer use goals.
So what we have done is we have volume

554
00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:31,520
from a variety of municipal uh contracts
throughout the country. What we're

555
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:37,520
trying to do is figure out how to get
that volume, source it out. So what we

556
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:42,880
have done is we've created four polymer
centers and the plastics that we collect

557
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:47,119
here in Paduca and other contracts um
will find will ultimately be

558
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:53,359
consolidated into volume that will go to
these polymer centers where we will

559
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:58,400
color separate wash flake and then
provide back to these manufacturers who

560
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:03,520
want an orange to make another orange
Tide bottle. Um, so that particular

561
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:07,440
product and specifically in the plastic
side of our business, um, is really,

562
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,880
really important to these folks. So
rather than going out and having to

563
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:17,440
create more [snorts] material and
plastic, they want clear green for the,

564
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:22,160
uh, squint bottles, they want um, they
want the orange for Tide, they want a

565
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,839
variety of these colors. So, uh, we have
created these polymer centers and that's

566
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:30,240
where we're going to focus where your
material as well as hundreds of

567
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,599
thousands of tons across the country are
going to be utilized in that same way.

568
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,440
So, we're excited about it. Uh, we're
excited about the opportunity to work

569
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:43,440
with you to expand recycling, not just
in those aspects, but ones that make

570
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:48,480
sense. I'm really, really big on finding
diversions that make sense rather than

571
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:53,040
just wishful cycling is what I call it.
Um, I would love to be able to recycle

572
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:56,960
absolutely everything. About 70% of what
we throw away can be recycled. The

573
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,560
problem is there's no markets for them.
Unless you have a market and unless you

574
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,760
have volume, unless you can manage the
transportation cost, it's very difficult

575
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:07,440
to drive that. So, we want to partner
with you um and look for other

576
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:10,800
opportunities, not just in the ridges
and the fibers that we have today, but

577
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,400
continue to push that envelope as much
as we can. So, well, glad to answer any

578
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:18,720
questions that you have.
>> Yeah. So, thank you for being here. Uh

579
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:25,119
we're excited to get started with you.
Uh glass is kind of a constant um

580
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:28,640
question from our customers is uh I'm
sure there's more expense with that, but

581
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:33,200
I know glass is recycled.
>> It absolutely is recyclable. Um as I

582
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:37,839
mentioned those things that you have to
have a market for. I'll give you a good

583
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:42,079
example. Across the river in Indiana up
toward Indianapolis, they have a

584
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:46,880
certainted plant uh makes fiberglass
insulation. They're more than glad to

585
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:52,079
take a lot of that glass. However,
getting the glass from any point to

586
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:57,839
there is significantly more expensive
than the value of that. We believe that

587
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:04,000
there is a recycling option for most
items. It's whether or not the finances

588
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:09,599
make it make sense. But in But I will
also say this very loudly,

589
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:14,560
doing the right thing often costs more
money. It's just the reality of what we

590
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:17,520
work in. So if it is important to the
residents, if important to the

591
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:22,079
administration, it's important to our
company, then we can entertain those

592
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:27,839
things and look at diversions and see
how they would fit. But glass is one

593
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:33,040
that I get asked so often. Mayor, um out
west, they will take the blue, the the

594
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:38,160
green, the clear, and the brown. They
will crush it, tumble it, and it's used

595
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:42,880
for ground cover instead of mulch out
west where we use mulch of a variety of

596
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:47,839
colors. They use that as brown ground
cover. The trend just isn't that here.

597
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:52,640
And I wish I had a better answer for
you. You can use we we've we've done

598
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:56,720
some test experiments uh and trying to
find it, but it you just don't have the

599
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:02,319
uses for it. And if you don't have an
outlet for it, then it's difficult to

600
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:07,012
make it make sense. We'd love to see it.
So, another question I have is that, you

601
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,520
know, Paduka has in the last
[clears throat] four years, I guess

602
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,079
you'd say three or four years, you know,
we've really increased our curbside

603
00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:15,119
recycling.
>> Understand that? Yes.

604
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:20,000
» Uh we've all worked on that. Uh staff
has worked on that. Uh a group of us

605
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:26,640
went down and actually
uh toured uh where our recyclables go.

606
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:32,640
Where will our recyclables go with you?
We will take the materials from our

607
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:37,680
facility here in Paduca and we will
transload those into tractor trailers

608
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:41,599
and they will actually go to what used
to be called recommunity in Memphis,

609
00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:46,560
[clears throat] Tennessee, but now it's
just simply known as Republic Recycling.

610
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:51,760
Um, and we have a facility there and it
is at that point it will get segmented

611
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:56,880
out and we will determine what materials
go to which mills. If it is the plastics

612
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:00,880
uh one through sevens, we're going to
focus on trying to get those to one of

613
00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:05,839
our polymer centers, which the closest
facility to to our area or region would

614
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:09,040
be Indianapolis.
Um you have to have a lot of volume.

615
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:14,478
There's one in Indianapolis. There's one
operational in um Las Vegas. Um Houston

616
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,520
and Dallas are fighting over whether
[snorts] they're who's going to get the

617
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:22,000
next one. And then there will also be
one in the Carolinas. So, but there will

618
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,359
only be four facilities.
So, I would just say, you know, we've

619
00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:30,559
done a good job of increasing that. So,
anything you can do to help us increase

620
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:36,000
that, educate our, you know, our
residents on on recycling.

621
00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:40,720
Um, I was talking to my niece the other
day and she called me when I was um

622
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:46,400
bringing the recycling up the driveway
and she said, "We've got a recycling

623
00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:54,160
can, but we're not we're not doing it."
And so, that made me very sad. One of my

624
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:59,200
relatives wasn't recycling. So, u my
last question has to do with um uh where

625
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:06,960
people take their recycling. It's moving
from [snorts] out in Littleville um out

626
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:11,760
to to
>> Yes. to 829 Bernett. Um which is as he

627
00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:16,079
mentioned right behind our public works.
It's at 9inth Street and Bernett. And

628
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,440
the hours the um materials we're
collecting will be the same. The hours

629
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,960
will be Monday through Friday, 7:00 a.m.
to 4:00 and Saturday 7:00 a.m. to noon.

630
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,160
And of course, we'll work with Pam to
get that message out, signage, all of

631
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:29,839
those things. And that will become
effective, excuse me, Monday, um,

632
00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:33,359
September [clears throat] 20 or Yeah,
September 28th.

633
00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:37,040
» And the capacity to take those is going
to be about the same as what it is now.

634
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:41,920
» Absolutely. Yes. Um, in fact, if you
look here at the

635
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:46,160
the slide, um, over on if you're coming
off of Bernett Street over to the right

636
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:50,079
hand side in the corner there, we will
ask everyone to go across the scale so

637
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:53,200
we can identify and make sure and
basically ask the question, what do you

638
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,659
have? Because we don't want to have a
high degree of contamination. U, that's

639
00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:00,079
one of the things that's really bad
[cough] on the recycling [clears throat]

640
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:05,680
side. Then they will cross the scale and
then go toward the back line fence line

641
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:11,359
there the the gr the forested area there
and turn right again and go back to this

642
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,400
um recycling facility where we will have
containers that are available

643
00:50:12,379 --> 00:50:18,720
[clears throat] there. Uh the intent and
the plan is to have what's called

644
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:22,960
A-frames. These are closed topped
sliding containers. If someone source

645
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:27,359
separates them and says, "I'm going to
just put my paper in this one, my

646
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:31,200
cardboard in this one, and my rigids in
this one," they'll have that option. Um,

647
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,160
but then [clears throat] you don't have
to separate by any means. You can put it

648
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,760
in there. It's called single stream. You
just throw it all in together and we

649
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,200
will transport it and run it through the
transfer station and then to the

650
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:45,280
recycling facilities.
And we we can also provide as part of

651
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:51,920
reporting, you know, the tonnages. I
think uh in the RFP roughly 1,600 tons

652
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:57,200
is what was re what was reported for the
recycling side. Um we can provide you

653
00:50:54,480 --> 00:51:01,200
reporting to show increase decrease
status quo but obviously we want to see

654
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:05,599
that increase. You know, I don't want to
go down deep hole here, but but I know

655
00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:11,119
that in our previous discussions, we'd
identified, you know, the fact that

656
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:16,720
people from out from surrounding
counties bring their recycling to us

657
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:20,720
because they don't have availability and
we don't charge them for that and so

658
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:26,559
we're paying for that. So, I think
that's a future opportunity for us to

659
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:32,960
take a look at making sure. I don't know
if you do that in other locations to try

660
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:38,400
to verify lo um residency. I mean, I'm
sure that's complicated. Um

661
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:45,359
the reality is doing the right thing is
often difficult as I mentioned earlier.

662
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:52,240
Um that said, if provided that we can
manage the volume inbound and that it

663
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:56,960
does not disrupt any of the waste and
collections, I don't see a problem

664
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:01,440
because I think the the delta between
what recycling volume is coming in

665
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:06,079
versus what the trash volume that we
would need to manage. The delta is very

666
00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:10,800
the difference there is very large. So,
I I think we have plenty of capacity to

667
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:15,540
manage a significant increase on the
recycling side. And yes, I mean, there's

668
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:20,960
a processing fee, you know, for the
[clears throat] curbside volume, but

669
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:25,520
we're not charging the residents uh or
the administration for what a resident

670
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:29,119
brings in in their own pickup truck or
in their own or in their in their own

671
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,559
vehicle.
>> So, that's that's a discussion for a

672
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:37,200
future day. Sure. So, absolutely.
Agreed.

673
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:37,200
» All right. That was my questions.

674
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:49,200
I just comment that that's a very handy
recycling location. So

675
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:53,040
» we feel so as well.
>> Okay. Thank you very much for being

676
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:55,599
here. Thank you, Michelle. I'd ask the
city clerk to call roll, please.

677
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:57,040
» Commissioner Henderson.
>> Hi.

678
00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:58,240
» Commissioner Smith.
>> I.

679
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,599
» Commissioner Thomas.
>> Hi.

680
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,336
» Commissioner Wilson.
>> Hi.

681
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:05,356
» Mayor Bray. I
[snorts]

682
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:10,480
» we go to the next one.
>> A proposed motion of the board of

683
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:14,160
commissioners to adopt a municipal order
entitled a municipal order declaring

684
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:18,960
certain city-owned real property located
on Salem Avenue and Hampton Avenue as

685
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:22,319
surplus property. Authorizing the sale
of said property to Salem

686
00:53:20,366 --> 00:53:25,040
[clears throat] Avenue LLC, authorizing
the mayor to execute a development

687
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:28,559
agreement and authorizing the mayor to
execute special warranty deeds and other

688
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:34,079
documents necessary to complete the
conveyance. So move second.

689
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:39,839
» Good evening everyone. We have a
development agreement um with Salem

690
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:46,160
Avenue LLC for you to look at tonight.
And Mr. Ed Cooper, who is the developer,

691
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:51,680
is here. And there were 10 parcels
located along that block on Salem Avenue

692
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:57,359
that were for sale um by private owner.
And the city had about six lots.

693
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:01,839
Six, we go six and seven. and there were
two 20ft lots that really couldn't be

694
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,960
built on. So, um he we're going to
essentially combine those and do a

695
00:54:03,359 --> 00:54:10,800
waiver of subdivision so he gets a good
40ft lot. So, it will lessen the number

696
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:15,839
of lot by one. But, um he made a
proposal to build 15 single family

697
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:20,627
residential homes throughout that whole
block. And so, this is the development

698
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:25,867
agreement that follows suit with that.
[snorts] and we're going to reimburse 5%

699
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:30,559
or 10,000 on each home, whichever
[clears throat] is the least amount is

700
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:36,240
is what he's agreed to. And none of the
homes shall exceed $250,000

701
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:42,720
in sale price. And he's just starting to
build them one right after another. And

702
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:46,559
it runs through August 1st of 2029.
But he's here to answer any questions.

703
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:51,200
Um, we're pretty excited to have a
developer come up and take a whole block

704
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:54,400
and and do single family residential and
do them at the rate he's doing them in

705
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:59,559
the quality product that he's doing.
>> Well, we'd like to meet him for sure.

706
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:59,559
» Bring him up.

707
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:05,440
» I had contrary to popular belief, I have
not been in a fight. I had an allergic

708
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:08,240
reaction, but when I saw him tonight for
the first time, he looked at me and I

709
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:11,359
know he was thinking, "Hell, who you
been duking it out with?" [laughter]

710
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:16,800
» But here he is.
>> Thank you, sir, and welcome. Um, so tell

711
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:24,000
us a little bit about yourself.
>> Uh, I grew up in Paduka. Uh, graduated

712
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:28,559
in 1978 from Heath High School. Uh, left
in uh, shortly after that 79 to go to

713
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:32,960
college. Was gone for a little over 40
years. Was in college [clears throat]

714
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:38,079
the whole time. [laughter]
My wife uh, also is Paduka native. We

715
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:44,319
went to high school together. And, um,
she came back and bought a house.

716
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:48,799
actually bought Bruce's house um in
2023,

717
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:57,119
I guess. And uh I followed not long
after. I travel a good bit. Um and I had

718
00:55:52,640 --> 00:56:04,000
some uh uh I had a a hole in my heart. I
had a atrial uh hole and uh that I've

719
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:10,160
had since birth was repaired in on the
third try in um January of last year.

720
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:14,480
And as I recovered from that, I'm like,
you know, I feel better than I have for

721
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:18,240
a long time. Need something to do.
Technically, I'm retired for the third

722
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:24,240
time. Uh, and [clears throat] so I was
looking at uh buying some houses to rent

723
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:28,240
as midterm rentals. Uh, actually was
looking at one on Salem Avenue that was

724
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:33,359
for sale. Came out. Jeff Garner, who is
my agent, I'm sure. I know Jeff

725
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:36,160
» um was with me and I saw these lots that
had just gone on the market the day

726
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:40,079
before and I said, "Well, I'm going to
I'm going to do a 180 here on you,

727
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:44,559
Jeff." And uh not a builder. I've never
built anything. My background is in the

728
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:48,240
mortgage business. Uh I've done a couple
of thousand construction loans, but had

729
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:53,280
never driven the nails. I'm still not
driving the nails. Uh bought the lots,

730
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:56,079
started working with Carol and and her
folks who've been great. Uh they've

731
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,599
given me an immense amount of
information because again, I don't know

732
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:05,280
what I'm doing. uh and have been very
helpful. Uh I5 uh did a design with

733
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:09,359
them. They've been very helpful. Jimmy
Langston, who I'm sure most of you know,

734
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:14,960
uh worked with him years ago at Paduka
Drug Company. Uh so I've gotten a lot of

735
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:20,960
good input from folks. And uh my goal is
to build entry level homes over there so

736
00:57:17,839 --> 00:57:25,040
that people preferably who uh are
firsttime buyers uh have not been in the

737
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:31,760
market before we can get into the
market. We broke ground on March 31st on

738
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:35,119
the first one and uh we would have
finished it a little bit earlier, but

739
00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:41,119
there was a couple m material sniffs,
but we finished it about uh two Fridays

740
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:44,960
ago. I guess some folks uh looked at it
on Sunday, made an offer on Monday, it

741
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:52,160
sold its closing on the 22nd. It
appraised for 2 $10,000. Uh I listed and

742
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:57,520
sold it sold it for $199. Um, and they
are first-time buyers that uh live out

743
00:57:54,559 --> 00:58:00,079
of town now and uh but work in Paduka
and are going to be moving to Paduka to

744
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,680
uh
>> Congratulations.

745
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,400
» Thank you.
>> Congratulations.

746
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,760
» So excited to work with the city.
Excited to hopefully provide some

747
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:12,400
opportunities for people to get into the
housing market and uh and u do something

748
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,480
good for the place that I grew up and
love.

749
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,880
» Thank you.
>> We wish you the best of luck. Welcome

750
00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:22,880
welcome home and uh let us know
>> home again. [laughter]

751
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:24,240
Yeah, I've been there, done that myself.
So,

752
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:27,920
» thank you very much.
>> All right. Thank you for being here.

753
00:58:26,910 --> 00:58:30,799
[clears throat]
>> All right. I'd ask I' I'd please call

754
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,160
roll.
>> Commissioner Henderson.

755
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,440
» Hi.
>> Commissioner Smith.

756
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,640
» I.
>> Commissioner Thomas.

757
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,839
» Hi.
>> Commissioner Wilson.

758
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,319
» Hi.
>> Mayor Bray.

759
00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:44,400
» I.
>> All right. We have three ordinances to

760
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:48,400
introduce tonight. Um,
>> and I'll ask the city clerk to read the

761
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:51,119
first one. A proposed motion of the
board of commissioners to introduce an

762
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,839
ordinance entitled an ordinance
authorizing the mayor to execute a

763
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,400
memorandum of understanding and
residential infield development

764
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:59,920
agreement with Chapman Property
Development LLC for the Melody Lane

765
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,760
development. This ordinance is
summarized as follows. The city and

766
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,240
Chapman Property Development LLC desire
to enter into a memorandum of

767
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:09,440
understanding providing for the
construction and acceptance of eligible

768
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:13,119
public improvements and the
reimbursement of certain eligible costs

769
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:17,440
through a residential infill development
agreement. Reimbursement shall be

770
00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:21,359
limited to eligible co costs actually
incurred for the construction of public

771
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:26,000
improvements to be acquired and owned by
the city not to exceed the amount of

772
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:29,599
city adalerum real property taxes
collected from the development during

773
00:59:27,839 --> 00:59:31,440
the applicable 5-year eligibility
period.

774
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:35,359
» I move
>> second.

775
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:41,040
» Evening mayor, commissioners, city
manager, city clerk. Um, as it said

776
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:46,559
there, this is an infill agreement uh
for the um with Chapman Development

777
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:51,520
Properties for the apartments on Melody
Lane and to reimburse for the

778
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:55,920
construction of uh the road to city
standards.

779
00:59:53,520 --> 01:00:00,720
» Yeah. Where is Melody Lane?
>> Nolan Lane off or Nolan Road off of um

780
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,480
» it's kind of behind the McDonald's on
Lono Road.

781
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,200
» Road, correct? Okay.
>> Yes.

782
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:10,480
» Nolan Drive there. That's comes off
Melody Lane. And how many apartments? Uh

783
01:00:08,319 --> 01:00:15,880
» uh eight unit eight buildings uh four
units a piece.

784
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:15,880
» Okay. 32 appointments. Okay.

785
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:22,640
» Yeah. That's and that's the development
where the previous developer passed away

786
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:27,599
suddenly. Is it Are we thinking about
the I was thinking about the same one

787
01:00:24,799 --> 01:00:33,839
» adjacent to that part of it.
>> Okay.

788
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:38,720
Okay. And uh Jim Chapman is a developer.
He's also sits on our planning and

789
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:43,920
zoning uh board and uh he's developed
some uh you know he bought the Ritz

790
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:48,319
apartments Ritz and developed those
apartments and he's got some other

791
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:52,880
developments around town. So it's good
to see you know one of our uh better

792
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:58,880
known developers
um jumping in to you know helping us

793
01:00:55,599 --> 01:01:05,960
increase housing. So
questions anybody.

794
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,960
» Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

795
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:13,520
» Ask the city clerk to read the next
ordinance introduction. A proposed

796
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,160
motion that the board of commissioners
introduce an [clears throat] ordinance

797
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:19,920
entitled an ordinance fixing the levies
and rates of taxation on all property in

798
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:24,480
the city of Baduca, Kentucky, subject to
taxation for municipal purposes for the

799
01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:29,920
period from July 1, 2026 through June
30th, 2027 with the purposes of said

800
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:36,160
taxes here and under defined purpose and
rate per $100. General fund of the city

801
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:40,880
real property at.253 $253
personal property except inventory at

802
01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:48,640
$.34
motor vehicles and watercraft at $.39

803
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:52,880
Paduca Junior College real estate at 014
personal property except inventory at

804
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:59,200
014
motor vehicles and watercraft at 031

805
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:02,559
property taxes property taxes levied
herein shall be due and payable in the

806
01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:06,559
following manner in the case of tax
bills which reflect an amount due of

807
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:10,720
less than $2,000.
The payment shall be due on November 1,

808
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:15,520
2026, and shall be payable without
penalty and interest until November

809
01:02:12,319 --> 01:02:18,720
30th, 2026. In the case of all other tax
bills, payment shall be in accordance

810
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:22,720
with the following provisions. The first
half payment shall be due on November

811
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:26,799
1st, 2026, and shall be payable without
penalty and interest until November

812
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:31,119
30th, 2026. The second half payment
shall be due on February 1, 2027, and

813
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:34,720
shall be payable without penalty and
interest until March 1st, 2027. Some

814
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,720
moved.
>> Second.

815
01:02:36,468 --> 01:02:39,520
[cough]
>> Good evening, [clears throat] mayor,

816
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:44,240
city commissioners, city managers, city
clerk. As Lindsay said, tonight I'm here

817
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:48,640
to talk to you about uh the proposed
property tax rates for fiscal 27. This

818
01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:54,863
year, we [clears throat] are proposing a
decrease for both real estate and

819
01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:54,863
personal property rates. [music]

820
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:05,040
For real estate, we are recommending
0.253, 253, which is 25.3 cents per $100

821
01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:11,119
of valuation and is a decrease from last
year's rate of 27.1 cents per $100. This

822
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:16,599
is the lowest real estate rate since
2013 when the rate was an even 25.

823
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:24,480
For personal property, we are
recommending 34, which is a decrease

824
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:27,920
from last year's rate of.356.
As most of our citizens are primarily

825
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:33,000
interested in the real estate rate, that
is where I'd like to focus the remainder

826
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:33,000
of my presentation.

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The city's property tax rate options are
calculated by a statriven formula that

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01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:44,799
compares the city's current total
assessments to those of the prior year.

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The assessment date for the current year
is 1 one of 2026.

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This year we're proposing to take the
compensating rate which is the rate that

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will generate approximately the same
amount of revenue as in the prior year

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01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:02,400
because the rate asset uh rate
calculation is driven by total

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01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:07,839
assessments the compensating rate can go
up or down. So this year based on uh the

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01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:12,240
increase in assessed value that we had
the compensating rate it's lower than

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01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:15,240
last year's rate by almost 2 cents per
$100.

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Total real property assessments
increased for the city by $26 million.

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Of this about 172 million was from
reassessments and the remaining 34

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01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:36,480
million was from new property and higher
property sales. About 9700 uh city

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01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:42,640
properties, that is about 67% of city
properties were reassessed resulting in

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01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:47,440
4,260 changes in assessment. And all of
that information was we got that from

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01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:52,720
Bill Dunn over PBA. This means that
approximately 70% of city property

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01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:57,359
owners will see a decrease for their
real estate bills.

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01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:03,599
And here's an example of what that
change might look like. Assuming that

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01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:07,039
you did not uh receive an assessment up,
you you've not been reassessed over the

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01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:11,680
past year and your home value is
200,000. Uh last year the city portion

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01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:19,559
of your property tax would have been
$542 and this year it'll be $56 for a

847
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,559
decrease of $36.

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01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:25,359
One last thing I'd like to add is that
the fiscal 27 budget was prepared with

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01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:29,039
the expectation of taking the
compensating rate. So this decision is

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01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:35,240
in line with assumptions that were made
during the budget process.

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01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:35,240
There any questions?

852
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:39,440
» No questions.
Okay.

853
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:45,760
» Well, I'll just make a comment. You of
course we get a lot of calls and

854
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:50,400
comments about people concerned about
their assessment on their house and

855
01:05:48,319 --> 01:05:52,400
that's really not anything that we do.
We don't control that.

856
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:56,960
» No,
>> that's uh something that's done by

857
01:05:54,799 --> 01:05:58,960
another by uh
>> all that's done

858
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,760
» officer. So, yes,
>> but we still get the calls. So, yes.

859
01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:05,760
» Um
>> but I just it's always good to point

860
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:10,319
that back out people watching. So,
>> yes. how that works. We receive a file

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01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:14,319
from uh the property valuation office
and load that file and apply the rates

862
01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:19,170
that we pass and and that generates the
bills.

863
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:23,839
» Other thing that the thing I'd
[clears throat] like to focus on is that

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70% of the city taxpayers will have a
decrease

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01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,680
» Yeah.
>> in real estate taxes.

866
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:31,599
» Yeah. We uh Stephanie actually
Stephanie's here tonight. Stephanie

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01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:34,720
reached out to Bill and he provided us
lots of lots of data regarding the

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:38,400
assessments this year. It was very
helpful because I was curious to see,

869
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,960
you know, how what percentage of
citizens would actually see this

870
01:06:39,839 --> 01:06:45,426
decrease. So,
>> Ben, that needs to be your headline.

871
01:06:43,406 --> 01:06:45,426
[laughter]

872
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,799
» Thank you, Audrey.
>> And the rate and the rate is as low as

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01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:55,280
it's been since 2013. Now that that you
know John Perkins we have we have the

874
01:06:52,319 --> 01:07:00,480
tax rate going back to 1905 probably but
uh no I look I look to see when it was

875
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:05,200
and it was u 2013 when it was last that
>> not many tax uh t this time of the year

876
01:07:03,359 --> 01:07:07,839
not many of these meetings are really
that happy.

877
01:07:06,319 --> 01:07:11,599
» Well I was going to make a joke when I
came up here that usually I bear bad

878
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,000
news and I was kind of excited about
this one. So

879
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:17,680
» yeah glad to report this.
>> Thank you very much Audrey.

880
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:23,000
» Yeah that that looks like a good
headline. kidding. [laughter]

881
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,000
» You want to see it tomorrow?

882
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:30,480
» Okay. I'll ask the city clerk to read
the last ordinance introduction.

883
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:33,520
» A proposed motion of the board of
commissioners to introduce an ordinance

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01:07:31,839 --> 01:07:36,319
entitled an ordinance amending the code
of ordinances of the city of Paduka,

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01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:39,680
Kentucky to create the department of
community development. This ordinance is

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01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:48,160
summarized as follows. This ordinance
amends chapters 2, 18, 34, 42, 46, 54,

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:51,440
82, 102, 106, and 126 of the Paduka code
of ordinances to create the department

888
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:54,160
of community development and to update
the code to reflect the city's

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01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:58,000
reorganization of certain development
related functions. This ordinance also

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01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,799
clarifies the respective roles of the
building division, fire prevention

891
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,280
division, and other city departments
involved in the development review,

892
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:07,039
permitting, inspection, code
enforcement, rental occupancy, fire

893
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:11,200
prevention, and related enforcement
matters. The planning commission held a

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01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:14,480
public hearing on September 3rd, 2026
and reported a favorable recommendation

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01:08:12,799 --> 01:08:18,480
to the city commission regarding the
proposed amendments to chapter 126

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,839
zoning. Upon adoption, the ordinance
shall be published in summary and shall

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01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:25,759
include the full text of each section
that imposes taxes or fees in accordance

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01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,960
with KRS83A.
060 subsection 9.

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01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:31,960
» So move.
>> Second.

900
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:38,960
» Well, Lindsay did the heavy lifting on
this one to be honest. There's about 170

901
01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:43,199
pages of code changes that um were
required to get this done and she's been

902
01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:46,880
through those with a fine tooth comb,
sent them over to the attorney's office

903
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:53,040
and then uh we've all met with the
attorney to to walk through those. Um

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01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:56,960
but this is in in essence creating the
department of community development.

905
01:08:54,640 --> 01:09:00,799
» Okay.
>> No questions from me. Great.

906
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:05,279
» It's what we had to do.
>> Okay. Thank you very much for being

907
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:09,120
here, Carol. Thank you.
Okay. Any comments from the city

908
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:13,359
manager?
>> Uh mayor, commission, and for the

909
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:17,120
public's uh knowledge referenced this a
little bit earlier in the meeting. Uh we

910
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:22,319
will not have our regularly scheduled
second meeting in September. Uh due to

911
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:26,719
conflicts, we will uh have our next
meeting uh as a special called meeting

912
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:30,159
at this time on October the 2nd. That
Friday, it'll be a Friday afternoon.

913
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:32,880
» Friday afternoon. We all have it on our
calendars.

914
01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:36,799
» Yep.
>> Okay. comments from any commissioners

915
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,920
» down this way.
>> You may know the calendar better than I

916
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:42,880
do, but I know [laughter] Thursday at
six o'clock we have the new sports park

917
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:48,080
opening.
>> The next week on Friday at 4:00

918
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:55,880
Riverfront, everybody can chime in here.
And then Albert Jones Park the last week

919
01:09:50,719 --> 01:09:55,880
and that's I'm not sure what time.

920
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:03,320
» Well, my calendar is messing up.
>> Oh, Dewan, come on. technology.

921
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:08,320
» What's that week?
>> We got a lot We got a lot of things

922
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:13,440
going on. We got a lot of think
>> we've been working on a lot of projects.

923
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:16,560
We got a lot of ribbon cutings and um I
was at the Cobb Park, you know, just

924
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:21,920
this last week,
>> one o'clock on the 29th.

925
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:26,640
» I was at the Cobb Park uh ribbon cutting
this last week. And you know, that

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:30,080
playground equipment, I was really
impressed with the quality of the

927
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:35,600
equipment. It's right there in the
middle of the southside. Um, actually

928
01:10:33,679 --> 01:10:42,320
there was a couple there that were
pregnant, expecting their first child.

929
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:46,719
So, it was um it was good to be there
and good to see the investment that's

930
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:49,120
been made.
>> 1 p.m.

931
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:55,120
» Mhm.
>> Comments down here. We good?

932
01:10:52,800 --> 01:11:00,480
» Okay. We will have an executive session
tonight. We do not plan to take any

933
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:04,560
action afterwards
and I would ask the city the city clerk

934
01:11:02,719 --> 01:11:08,480
to please
read a proposed motion of the board of

935
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:12,239
commissioners to go into close session
for discussion of matters pertaining to

936
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:16,880
the following topics. Future sale or
acquisition of a specific parcel of real

937
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:22,400
estate as permitted by KRS61.810
subsection 1B. Proposed or pending

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01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:26,960
litigation is permitted by KRS61.810
subsection 1C. A specific proposal by a

939
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:28,960
business entity where public discussion
of the subject matter [clears throat]

940
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,400
would jeopardize the location,
retention, expansion, or upgrading of a

941
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:37,199
business entity is permitted by
KRS61.810

942
01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:42,480
subsection 1G and conduct of a
performance review of the city manager

943
01:11:38,719 --> 01:11:46,719
as permitted by KRS 83A150
subsection 4D.

944
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:48,719
» So move second.
>> Call roll.

945
01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:49,920
» Commissioner Henderson.
>> I.

946
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,199
» Commissioner Smith.
>> I.

947
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,400
» Commissioner Thomas.
>> Hi.

948
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:56,600
» Commissioner Wilson.
>> Hi.

949
01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:56,600
» Mayor Bray. I

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,040
» I'll run to the restroom.

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