[0:09] Hey,
[0:20] hey, hey.
[2:04] Everyone, [cough and clears throat]
I'll go ahead and call this meeting to
[2:07] order on September 8th, 2026 and ask our
city clerk to please call role.
[2:13] » Commissioner Henderson,
>> present.
[2:14] » Commissioner Smith,
>> here.
[2:16] » Commissioner Thomas,
>> present.
[2:17] » Commissioner Wilson,
>> present. Mayor Bray,
[2:20] » here.
I would ask uh Commissioner Henderson to
[2:24] do the invocation and then we'll remain
standing for the national anthem.
[2:29] Our
>> father and our God, again, we're
[2:30] grateful for the dies you've given us
and for the blessings that we right now
[2:34] enjoy. We thank you so much, Father, for
the privilege that you've given us to
[2:39] serve this community. Uh we pray now God
that as we uh talk and discuss and share
[2:45] that you'll be in the midst of our uh
discussion uh guiding our ideas, guiding
[2:50] our understanding. Father, we thank you
again for this privilege. In Jesus name
[2:54] we pray. Amen.
>> Amen.
[2:57] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[3:03] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[3:10] justice for all.
[3:17] » City manager, are there any additions or
deletions to the agenda?
[3:21] » Mayor, none this evening.
>> Okay. The first thing I have um
[3:26] [clears throat] is a proclamation I want
to read. Not going to get up. Nobody
[3:30] else is here.
But um October is uh city government
[3:37] month and uh this is something that we
we recognize every year. Uh we spend a
[3:45] lot of time
educating school children uh about about
[3:50] government, about city government. Uh we
think that's important. All the
[3:54] commissioners go out and uh talk at the
schools when asked and um so we are
[4:01] going to honor this proclamation
tonight.
[4:04] And it states, "Whereas civics's
education is important to ensure
[4:09] Kentucky children develop an interest
and an understanding of local government
[4:14] and their role in the community.
And whereas Kentucky academic standards
[4:19] for social studies require instruction
on citizenship and local government for
[4:25] entry-level elementary school children.
And whereas involving and informing
[4:31] students of local government programs
and duties can provide an opportunity
[4:37] for entire families to connect with
vital city services and programs.
[4:45] And whereas city government month is a
civics's awareness campaign that
[4:50] educates elementary school students
about city services by providing teacher
[4:57] lesson plans, students coloring and
activity books and classroom materials.
[5:04] And whereas city government month calls
on city officials to get involved in
[5:10] their local schools and in educating and
engaging elementary school students in
[5:16] city government. Now therefore, I,
George P. Bray, mayor of the city of
[5:20] Baduca, hereby [snorts] proclaim
September 2026
[5:24] city government month.
[5:35] Okay, with that, uh, we have one person
that wants to do public comments.
[5:38] Marshall Davis, come on up.
>> Thank you.
[5:46] » Hopefully, this won't be like a broken
record. Maybe I'll have a little
[5:49] different tune every time, but maybe we
maybe together we can get this done. Uh,
[5:55] hopefully. I don't I guess we'll see you
eventually.
[6:01] Thank you.
>> Give you a summary of my
[6:13] » I'm Marshall Davis. I live at 7
Westville, Paduka, Kentucky. I
[6:17] appreciate the opportunity to be here,
mayor, commissioners, manager, and
[6:21] clerk. Paduka's current business license
tax taxes the top line of a business,
[6:26] not the bottom line, but also adds a tax
break to the largest entities in Paduka.
[6:32] Every dollar that flows through a Paduka
business, whether it ultimately ends in
[6:37] a profit or loss, is subject to the
levy. The phase threshold increase is a
[6:43] welcome administrative improvement, but
it does nothing to address the
[6:47] fundamental flaw structure. A business
that loses money still owes city tax and
[6:53] small businesses continue to pay a
dramatically higher effective rate than
[6:58] those large ones throughout the entire
phase in period.
[7:03] Every business with gross receipts at or
below the threshold. The vast major
[7:08] majority of Paduka small businesses pay
the full schedule D rate of.3% in every
[7:14] year of the phase in the threshold
increase delivers zero benefit to them
[7:20] while the relief flows entirely to
businesses large enough to have receipts
[7:25] above the threshold and grows more
generous the larger the business. By
[7:30] 2030, a business with 20 million in
gross receipts pays an effective rate of
[7:36] 7.178%
less than 60% of what the small business
[7:42] next door pays on its 500,000 in
receipts. The same schedule repeats
[7:48] across every schedule or the same
pattern. Under schedule C, a small
[7:54] restaurant, the neighborhood diner, at
400,000 in receipts, never benefits from
[7:59] the rising threshold, while the regional
chain at 10 million sees meaningful rate
[8:04] relief each year. Kentucky law
authorizes cities to impose occupational
[8:10] license taxes on either net profit or
gross receipts. But the overwhelming
[8:16] consensus among Kentucky major cities is
to tax on net profits. The amount
[8:22] actually earned after legitimate
business expenses are deducted.
[8:27] Consider these municipal taxes.
Lexington, Fyet County, net profit.
[8:33] Louisville, Metro net profit. Bowling
Green net profit. Ashlin, Henderson,
[8:39] Hopkinsville, Covington, Owensboro, all
net profit tax. Paducas gross receipts
[8:46] from 0.045% to a half percent.
Every major Kentucky city business,
[8:54] every Kentucky city taxes businesses on
what they actually earn,
[9:00] except Paduka. Paduka stands alone in
taxing what merely passes through the
[9:04] business's hands, regardless of whether
that business ends the year in profit or
[9:09] loss. I urge you to reconsider the
effects of the gross receipts tax and
[9:16] implement a net profits tax. Thank you.
Thank you.
[9:21] [applause]
Thank you for being here.
[9:27] So, I'll move to the consent agenda.
Items on the consent agenda are
[9:30] considered to be routine by the board of
commissioners and will be enacted by one
[9:34] motion [snorts] and one vote. There will
be no separate discussion of these items
[9:38] unless a board member so requests, in
which event the item will be removed
[9:43] from the consent agenda and considered
separately. The city clerk will read the
[9:48] items recommended for approval unless
any commissioner would like an item
[9:53] removed for separate discussion.
I would please I've got questions on F,
[10:00] H, and K.
Sorry about that.
[10:05] » Okay.
[10:10] » Approve minutes for the August 25th,
2026 board of commissioners meeting.
[10:14] Receive and file documents. Personnel
actions. A municipal order amending the
[10:18] fiscal year 2027 position and pay
schedule for the full-time employees of
[10:22] the city of Paduca, Kentucky. A
municipal order amending the job grade
[10:26] schedule for the employees of the city
of Paduka, Kentucky for fiscal year
[10:29] 2027. A municipal order authorizing the
mayor to execute a memorandum of
[10:33] agreement with the Commonwealth of
Kentucky, Department of Military
[10:36] Affairs, Kentucky Division of Emergency
Management for participation in the
[10:40] Kentucky Urban Search and Rescue
Program. A municipal order authorizing
[10:44] the mayor to execute an amendment to the
agreement with Tyler Technologies
[10:47] Incorporated for software services. a
municipal order authorizing the mayor to
[10:51] execute a memorandum of agreement
between the city of Paduca and the
[10:54] Commonwealth of Kentucky Transportation
Cabinet Department of Highways in the
[10:57] amount of $100,000 for the South 21st
Street Rehabilitation Program. A
[11:03] municipal order authorizing and
directing the mayor to execute a lease
[11:06] agreement between the city of Paduka and
Paduka Film Society for a lease of
[11:09] Maiden Alley Cinema [clears throat]
located at 112 Maiden Alley, Paduca,
[11:13] Kentucky. A municipal order authorizing
and directing the mayor to execute a
[11:16] lease agreement between the city of
Paduca and River Heritage Museum for
[11:19] lease of the River Discovery Center
located at 117 South Water Street,
[11:23] Paduca, Kentucky, a municipal order
approving an employment agreement
[11:27] between the city of Paduca and Carol G
for employment as the director of
[11:30] community development and authorizing
the mayor to execute same.
[11:33] » So move
>> second call.
[11:36] » Commissioner Henderson I.
>> Commissioner Smith I
[11:39] » Commissioner Thomas. Hi.
>> Commissioner Wilson. Hi.
[11:42] » Mayor Bray. Hi.
>> Okay, let's take these one at a time.
[11:46] You want to take the ones that we pulled
off first? So,
[11:51] » item F. Um, a proposed motion of the
board of commissioners to approve a
[11:56] municipal order entitled approving
agreements related to the fire
[11:59] department training facility water main
project and authorizing the mayor to
[12:02] execute all documents related there too.
>> Second.
[12:08] » Some moved.
>> Move.
[12:10] » Oh. Oh, you took this is what you
wanted.
[12:12] » So moved.
>> A second. [laughter]
[12:14] » All right, then.
>> You the one wanted.
[12:17] » I'm sorry. I I guess [laughter] I guess
I got too excited.
[12:21] » He's got a question he wants to ask.
[laughter]
[12:24] » He wants to ask it bad.
>> No, just my question was I wasn't it
[12:29] wasn't clear to me from reading the
write up is $280,000
[12:33] for a enhanced water supply for the fire
training.
[12:38] » Yes.
>> Can you explain that?
[12:40] » I can. So the the new site that we have,
it does have water up to it, but the
[12:45] water that we have up to it is a 6-in
water man that's over a 100 years old.
[12:50] Uh it cannot supply the training field
with the supply that's going to be
[12:56] needed and hold up under the use that
it's going to get. Uh it it's very
[13:01] fragile is I think how Jason would cash
it. Uh while it but it does work today.
[13:08] So, they're going to run a new 8-in main
from Caldwell up to the entrance of the
[13:13] training field. And what that proposes
is that we split that cost and then from
[13:18] the from the point where it ends at the
entrance of the training field on in
[13:22] that is our co that is our cost as a
part of the development of the training
[13:26] field. But they're going to we're
basically splitting the cost of the
[13:30] water man from Caldwell up to Tennessee
in the entrance.
[13:34] So, and our half is 280,000. And I guess
you're saying Paduka Water's paying 280.
[13:39] » They're they're paying up to 280 and
anything over there, it's ours.
[13:44] » Okay. And then we have to then we will
spend money once that site is developed
[13:49] out. Then we'll spend additional money
to get that water man actually to our
[13:54] structure or structures on the fire.
>> Correct. That that would be what what
[13:58] they consider private development of a
site.
[14:00] » No, I could understand that.
>> Okay. So, do we know how much this
[14:04] training
all total how much the all in how much
[14:09] our cost will be to develop this fire
training area?
[14:12] » I I don't have that in front of me
tonight. No, sir. No.
[14:16] » Do you know when we could get that cuz
uh I mean this is like the first part of
[14:20] that kind of going down that
>> right. So,
[14:23] » well, and so we're getting we're getting
ready to push push out an RFP to do some
[14:27] initial development of the site that'll
give us um and we have a limited amount
[14:33] of money that's going to be left over
because we weren't expecting to do the
[14:36] water man. Uh our goal was to do some
development of the site and and start
[14:42] the construction of the tower, if not
get the tower constructed. I do not
[14:45] believe we're going to have enough money
to construct the tower now. Um, we're
[14:49] the goal is to get the site developed
flat, get our water retention done, get
[14:55] our road network inside, and hopefully
get the the extended water man that
[15:00] we're looking to operate off of inside
the site. That's what I think we might
[15:04] be able to get done with this first
phase. The as far as a bu a buildout
[15:09] after that, the biggest structures that
we'll have sometime in the first would
[15:13] be the tower. And uh I've got an
estimate of around 3/4 of a million for
[15:20] the tower itself. Um but we're not going
to be building that today. It could be
[15:25] two years from now. So, you know, those
numbers we'll have to we'll have to get
[15:29] them checked again.
Eventually down the road we want a
[15:32] classroom facility on the site, but you
know, I that's so far out I don't I
[15:38] don't know when we'll get to that. Will
we I mean if we're going to put you know
[15:43] a million or whatever it is in the site
will we will there be any kind of a
[15:48] agreement with other fire agencies where
uh we can share the cost of developing
[15:54] this or is there have we done any work
on that or
[15:58] » Well I think we we'll get grant we we
can get access to grant funds and let
[16:03] make the site usable to others um but I
I don't anticipate getting any money
[16:08] from any other fire departments to
develop the site.
[16:12] » Okay. I would just I would like to
propose that we pause action on this
[16:18] till we see a holistic plan of the the
of what we plan on spending and doing on
[16:25] this developing the fire water tower.
Well, if you go ahead, commissioner,
[16:31] » I was just going to say you said the
Paduka water 280,000, but our park could
[16:36] be potentially more than the 280,000
>> a little bit. Yeah. I I don't it just
[16:40] you know that was an estimate that BFW
did for us for that specific part of the
[16:44] project. Yes.
>> So So
[16:47] » I don't have a hard number on that
because the project hasn't been let yet.
[16:51] » Yeah. But just for clarification, this
part here is separate from the
[16:55] development of
>> of the site
[16:56] » of the site. And so what had been agreed
by Paduka Waterboard and what I had
[17:00] shared over a couple of the briefings
with the commissioners is that the
[17:05] estimated cost of this of this first of
the redoing of the pipe uh would be 400
[17:12] and some thousand was which was
estimated and it meant that Paduka Water
[17:16] was going to cover more than 50% of that
cost on that estimate because ours was
[17:21] going to be up that and we were going to
use the funds from the sale of the
[17:25] current site to help to to cover this
offsite the cost offset that cost.
[17:30] » Haven't voted on some of this before.
>> Well, you you voted on the develing the
[17:36] getting the land and doing the
development and and selling the current
[17:40] site
>> currently
[17:42] have been voting to go down this road.
>> I just I'm saying this because I I've
[17:47] never I've not seen any dollar amounts.
I don't think any of us know exactly how
[17:52] much it going to cost to develop this
site out, what we're planning on doing
[17:55] and all. It just seems kind of premature
to be going down this pathway. I don't
[18:01] mind going down the pathway, but I do
would like to know how much we're
[18:05] planning on spending, how much
development cost will be when we're
[18:08] planning on spending it. you know, just
instead of just voting for the
[18:15] things, you know, one piece at a time
without seeing a big picture. That's all
[18:20] I'm saying. I'm not saying there's a
>> Yeah. This, you know, again, what I what
[18:25] we had talked about when this had come
up on needing to replace. I had shared
[18:29] that in my briefings with the commission
about this aspect of it and how we were
[18:33] we're were going that. Um and so you
know from that aspect it's also similar
[18:38] to other economic development projects
we've done with Paduka water uh to where
[18:42] there is a a [clears throat] failing
portion of the system and we split the
[18:46] cost of of that. Uh this this also would
allow for potential additional
[18:50] development in that area on the street
side because it's
[18:53] » going to improve things for the
southside development.
[18:55] » Southside development as well.
>> Well, I'm just going to I'm going to
[18:58] jump in here. I mean, I don't think it's
a bad thing, uh, you know, for us to
[19:03] take a pause and and make sure that we
understand what the potential of the
[19:09] long-term plan is. Um, I mean, I think
it's um I think it's I think it's a good
[19:17] some good input. Um, because I'm not
sure all of us really understand what's
[19:23] I mean, we're just we're voting on this
and we don't know what the long-term
[19:26] plan is. And I think I'd like to see
what the long-term plan is, what the
[19:32] estimated cost of the the long-term plan
is. And we could probably get that
[19:36] together in a in short order, you know,
within um is there a time issue on this
[19:43] vote?
>> I mean, that's how because Paduka Water
[19:46] took that to their board to vote for
this
[19:48] » agreement. We pushed Paduka water along
to get their side done so we could get
[19:52] started on work trying to get it trying
to get this thing moving and the water
[19:57] line was unanticipated. I mean the
development of the site we I don't I
[20:02] think I'll be able to address your
concerns probably just in a smaller
[20:05] conversation maybe to help you
understand but the the water line is a
[20:09] is a hijacked it here for us and we
we've got to replace the water line in
[20:14] order to have water to the site. We
can't do we can't do anything without
[20:18] that. And we have the sale of of the
current site to JSA dependent upon uh
[20:24] we've already done that. We're signing
that paperwork tomorrow, I think. Right.
[20:29] » And that money is going to be used to do
the water line for the the new location.
[20:35] » So regardless of what it costs, we still
we're going to end up doing this having
[20:41] to do this. That is that's what I'm
understanding. We're gonna still have to
[20:45] do what you're saying.
>> I I think you would as the southside
[20:48] developed, you'd end up having to do it
anyway. Yeah. It's just timing and
[20:51] whether or not the the training fields
accelerated the timing because we're
[20:55] developing trying to get that developed.
>> But the the line that they have there
[20:59] today is over 100 years old, 6 in. And
>> there's no line. Anyway,
[21:04] » that
um I know we're selling the piece of
[21:08] property. going to use proceeds from
that to pay for this as well as other
[21:12] development for the new uh training
facility. But it's not like we have to
[21:17] spend this. I mean that money can be put
aside for
[21:21] » a week, two weeks, a month, whatever
till we have the whole picture what this
[21:25] looks like.
>> Sure.
[21:26] » Correct. I mean there's no no
hair on fire. But this is
[21:32] » Well, mine was
>> my concerns. I'm okay.
[21:34] » Yeah. Oh, that actually no pun intended.
[laughter]
[21:37] But I mean these are my concerns. They
not may not be the concerns for the rest
[21:42] of the group. But that's just one thing
that I just I just have never seen a
[21:47] whole holistic thing on the fire
training, what we're planning on doing,
[21:51] the steps and all that and all that. So,
>> any other discussion?
[22:02] » So, are you making a motion to postpone?
>> I'll make a motion to postpone until we
[22:07] can see the holistic plan for the fire
training.
[22:11] » Is there another motion on the floor?
>> There is, but if that this would come
[22:15] first, we would take a vote on
postponing and then if that fails, we'll
[22:20] go back to the original.
>> Okay. And I guess one quick question
[22:24] before then. So would this throw off the
timeline for getting this developed if
[22:27] we postpone?
>> Well, it does for the timeline I had.
[22:30] Yes. But I I mean I I kind of feel like
we're already behind anyway because
[22:34] we've we've moved forward in selling the
existing site, not putting any more
[22:39] money into it. We've got to have a
training site for our abilities to be
[22:43] able to train. Uh the new the a new
tower is a is the most critical
[22:48] component of that. and
I'm working as expeditiously as I can to
[22:53] try to get that done. Yes,
>> Lindsay, before we vote, would we
[22:58] clarify a yes vote or a no vote, what
that stands for?
[23:02] » Uh, so right now we have a motion on the
table from Commissioner Smith to
[23:05] postpone consideration of this item
until we have an understanding of the
[23:10] long-term plan and estimated cost.
>> Correct.
[23:14] » Um, that would need a second. A yes vote
would mean we will postpone this item
[23:18] for a later date.
[23:23] Is there a second to that motion?
[23:28] Motion dies for lack of second. So we'll
go back to the original motion and that
[23:32] would be to approve [snorts] this going
forward. And we have a motion and a
[23:36] second on that already.
>> Call roll.
[23:39] » Commissioner Henderson.
>> Yes.
[23:41] » I.
>> Commissioner Smith.
[23:42] » No.
>> Commissioner Thomas.
[23:44] » I. Commissioner Wilson.
>> Hi, Mayor Bray.
[23:47] » Hi.
>> Thank you.
[23:50] » Now, um, let me just make this. I think
we need to see a plan. I think we need
[23:56] to see something documented on what the
long-term plan is for that. I think it's
[24:01] it was a good discussion and and it
shows that we've got commissioners
[24:07] reading um, you know, our stuff before
they come and so I appreciate that. And
[24:13] so, um, let's try to get something
together.
[24:16] » Yeah. And that's we're already working.
I mean, we've got, you know, BFW under
[24:20] for engagement of services. And so,
that's the process already in place.
[24:25] » Cool.
>> Good. Good. I read too. He's not the
[24:27] only [laughter]
[24:31] » commissioners [laughter] said plural. We
>> Yeah, I didn't mean it like that.
[24:38] [laughter]
Okay. Let's move to the next uh next
[24:42] item. A proposed motion of the board of
commissioners to adopt a municipal order
[24:45] entitled a municipal order authorizing
the mayor to execute a contract for
[24:49] services with Paduca Junior College
Incorporated for the community
[24:53] scholarship program in the amount of
$100,000.
[24:56] » So move
>> second.
[25:00] My my comments slash concern is one that
[clears throat] we talked about before,
[25:05] maybe I've talked about before, is that
u this fund I believe is pushing $3
[25:10] million at uh WKCTC
and I just I don't think that they need
[25:16] the money. uh they may want the money,
but I don't think that they I think
[25:20] they're overfunded and I don't think
that uh we should be uh making
[25:26] contributions to that fund until that
they're spending the money down to where
[25:33] the replenishment is needed. So that's
my comment. And so I would propose uh
[25:38] not
making the contribution this year
[25:42] monitoring their balance to see if uh I
mean because we could spend that
[25:46] $100,000 paving for instance. But that's
my motion and that may die from lack of
[25:53] second too. But I just want to
>> Well, let's talk about that because um
[26:00] Commissioner Smith and I had uh had
lunch um with Eric Stra who's
[26:07] um heading up that um that committee out
and and Commissioner Smith is correct,
[26:13] you know, in that there's a lump sum of
money out there in that in that fund and
[26:20] they spend they spend the earnings off
that each year. But the fund is designed
[26:28] to be able to educate everybody from
eighth grade on. So if the fund would go
[26:35] away, they could educate everybody
that's in the eighth grade today through
[26:40] high school is the way the way I
understand it.
[26:44] » Those five years, they would have the
money to pay for them for their two
[26:48] years at PTC.
>> Right.
[26:51] Um, you know, I've worked with WKCTC the
last two years, urging them to um
[26:59] urging them to make sure that they spend
as much of that money as possible.
[27:04] meaning [snorts] that we need to make
sure that we've identified people who
[27:09] can use scholarships and need
scholarships because a lot of the
[27:13] scholarships that are offered go
unclaimed
[27:17] um because because the people go they go
somewhere else you know they go to
[27:22] college at Murray or Western or UK
whatever [snorts] and um so there's
[27:29] something about it that I think needs
you know needs restructure uring um and
[27:36] I think at this point WKCTC
has certainly listened to us but they've
[27:41] not changed anything
and you know and I'll point out that I
[27:46] think the county
provides an annual
[27:52] uh stipen to them of 125,000 I believe
I'm correct and we're at 100.
[28:00] Um, but this comes up every year and
so
[28:08] » I would just say I think if we were
going to pull it and we should have
[28:12] probably had WKCTC to be here to give us
their results. I know, you know, as far
[28:18] as what you're saying about the
students, I know that they've had
[28:21] people, they have staff in the high
schools working with them. They do
[28:25] » students. I think they have I might be
saying this wrong. I think they have
[28:28] relaxed the rule where they had to sign
up as a freshman to be eligible when
[28:32] they graduate so that they could make
sure that every student that qualifies
[28:37] can do it. There are certain
qualifications as far as GPA, not being
[28:41] in trouble, all of those kind of
qualifications to make them eligible for
[28:45] it. But it is an an important tool that
our community has to try to get more
[28:50] students to go to college to complete
some type of degree or certificate or
[28:56] whatever that they can at WKCTC so
they're at least getting one to two
[29:00] years more of school. And I I saw Bruce
come in. I I know that it's used in our
[29:06] promotion of our community that we're,
you know, it sets us apart from a lot of
[29:11] other communities that we have this
program that some states have it, our
[29:15] state doesn't have that program, but our
community does that we provide to your
[29:20] education for students in our community.
>> Let me I just want to make sure that
[29:24] this doesn't get mischaracterized.
>> I don't think there's anyone saying I'm
[29:28] saying it's good program. I'm just
saying that they're overfunded. and to
[29:32] talk about it being such a great program
and all it absolutely is, but that is
[29:37] not the topic that I'm bringing up. My
topic is that it's overfunded [snorts]
[29:42] and that there's plenty of funding.
>> They would say it they have to have that
[29:46] a certain minimum to ensure that they
have the money to continue forward.
[29:50] That's what I've heard them saying.
>> It's not their guaranteeing, it's our
[29:54] money. We're the ones guaranteeing.
>> Well, us, the county, and then they have
[29:58] a lot of private donors.
>> Correct.
[30:01] But that's just what I'm saying is I'm
just saying that it's overfunded. They
[30:04] have
>> uh they have a lot of funds. It's a
[30:07] great program. No doubt about it. But
>> I don't want to be characterized.
[30:13] » If I'm saying it's not a good program,
I'm supportive of the program, too. I
[30:17] just think it's
>> and if we were
[30:19] » clearly overfunded.
>> I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[30:21] » I think we've had this conversation
before.
[30:23] » We have.
>> We have. And I think if we were going to
[30:26] defund it or take it away, I think
shouldn't this have shouldn't this have
[30:30] been a conversation that we've had with
the school before tonight before we are
[30:36] prepared to vote on this?
>> Well, had this conver
[30:39] » not only with the school, but I mean to
me the time to have this discussion is
[30:44] when we're going through the budget,
>> right?
[30:46] » And and so we budgeted 100,000 and
doesn't mean we can't change it because
[30:51] we can. Um [snorts] but I think um
you know I think you know a we should we
[31:00] should continue discussions with the
school and we should make them even more
[31:05] aware that you know that we that we need
to understand better how they're going
[31:10] to spend this money and whether or not
they really [snorts] have to have this
[31:14] amount of money in a fund
>> and um and B this discussion needs to
[31:19] come up before our next budgeting
session.
[31:22] was what I would recommend.
>> Well, I I think that we should I think
[31:27] my position the last time we talked
about this was that we should make sure
[31:30] that we have enough money there to
always do what it is that we're doing
[31:34] now. We don't I don't know that we'd
ever want to get to a point where it's
[31:38] we're at the at the bare minimum or it
becomes urgent that we have to do
[31:42] something. Let's just keep putting it
there so that they can keep accessing it
[31:46] as long as they need to.
>> Right. I agree. Just know, you know,
[31:51] that they've got a lot of funds.
>> The money is there.
[31:56] » You know, the money is there. There's
plenty of money there.
[31:58] » Keep on putting it in there. If the
county gives 125, we ought to give 130.
[32:05] » Oh, wow. [laughter]
>> Okay.
[32:09] » So, so, so maybe maybe we should just do
what we going to do, right?
[32:12] » All right.
Um,
[32:15] » so to be clear, the motion that's on the
table right now is a motion from
[32:19] Commissioner Smith to postpone a vote to
approve this allocation until
[32:26] » uh till next year.
>> Until next year.
[32:28] » I mean, that was Yeah.
>> So, you're you're essentially proposing
[32:31] that we skip the payment for this year.
>> Absolutely. Yeah.
[32:35] » And u
but I have a feeling that's going to die
[32:39] for lack of a second, too. M
>> based on the conversation,
[32:42] » we have a second.
[32:46] » Okay, we are back to the original motion
to approve that has um a motion and a
[32:54] second.
>> Commissioner Henderson,
[32:57] » I.
>> Commissioner Smith,
[32:59] » no.
>> Commissioner Thomas,
[33:01] » I.
>> Commissioner Wilson,
[33:03] » I.
>> Mayor Bray,
[33:04] » I
[33:10] A proposed motion of the board of
commissioners to adopt a municipal order
[33:14] entitled a municipal order authorizing
and directing the mayor to execute a
[33:17] lease agreement between the city of
Paduca and Seaman's Church Institute for
[33:21] lease of the Seaman's Church Institute
located at 129 South Water Street,
[33:25] Paduca, Kentucky.
>> So moved.
[33:28] » Second.
Uh my comment on this is that I believe
[33:33] this piece is at $3 a square foot.
>> I think that's right.
[33:38] » And the uh uh
>> I don't think that price has gone up in
[33:43] how many years, [clears throat]
but the uh um
[33:48] when I go through
research, it's mostly AI stuff, but
[33:53] generally stuff is going for 12 to $19 a
square foot. I know that um Seaman's
[34:01] Church has gotten a deal on their lease
for they've been around for 30 years,
[34:06] but just seems like we should
not be renewing leases for the same
[34:10] amount. We should be getting a little
bit more than just the $3 instead of
[34:15] just turn around and re releasing things
at the same rate. So, I'd like to see
[34:22] the lease go up a little bit closer to
market rate than just stay the same
[34:28] without even
anyone considering or discussing what
[34:33] that rate is.
>> And I understand that their lease
[34:37] expires the end of this month. And is
there a clause in their current lease to
[34:43] have them on a monthto month to 19?
Okay.
[34:49] So, do you have a motion?
>> Yes, I'd have I have a motion to pause
[34:54] this till we look at um better rate, a
different rate than just to turn around,
[35:02] renew the rate existing. So, uh delay it
for a month for us to take a good look
[35:06] at it.
>> Okay, I'll second that.
[35:13] » Give me just one moment.
[35:19] ready for a vote on postponing
for one month to take a closer look at
[35:25] the rates.
>> Just just for clarification and
[35:28] Michelle, you can I don't know if you
look. So, we've already approved the
[35:32] other leases with Paduka Film Society
and River Heritage Museum.
[35:38] Currently, this lease is all tied up
into one and and it was broken out uh to
[35:44] uh at the request of one of those lease
holders to be able to have themselves
[35:48] the River Heritage. And so that's how we
got into to breaking those out into
[35:51] that. I if we pause on this one, I don't
know what impact that might have on the
[35:55] others since those have already been
approved.
[35:57] » Yeah, I don't know. We'll have to I
think talk about that tomorrow and
[36:00] figure out what the best course of
action forward is for everybody. I mean,
[36:03] everybody's immunable to these changes
and breaking them out. So, I think we
[36:07] can work through that. I I can't I don't
know off the top of my head exactly how
[36:10] we'd have to think through that, but we
can figure it out.
[36:13] » Have you already done a study of the
lease? I mean, of the
[36:17] » So, we did
>> been working on this for a while. I
[36:19] guess
>> we did some market rates. Uh Chris and I
[36:22] did earlier this year with another
lease. What we focused on with these
[36:25] leases are separating them out and
making them shorter and then
[36:27] re-evaluating more of those the rate in
three years. So the focus was more
[36:32] separating them out and making them
shorter than and we know it's
[36:35] historically been under market. I mean
that's the approach we've typically
[36:38] taken with them.
>> Did the rates for the other two stay the
[36:41] same?
>> Yes. Yeah.
[36:42] » So we we would only be raising the rate
on Seaman's Church Institute.
[36:47] » Um the um River Discovery and Maiden
Alley they do that dollar a year to
[36:51] lease. So they don't have a cost per
square foot.
[36:55] » They rent their space for a dollar per
year for the whole facility. young
[36:59] » and Seammens does theirs at so much per
foot per square foot. So they already
[37:04] pay a lot more.
>> Yes.
[37:06] » Than the other two.
[37:09] » And Commissioner Smith says the rates
the market rate are anywhere from 13 to
[37:13] $19 a square. [clears throat]
>> I don't think we can come up with
[37:17] » Yeah. I don't I think again the point is
we want to study, you know, just take a
[37:22] pause. I'm not I'm not suggesting myself
personally that that I mean Seaman's
[37:28] Church Institute is a great benefit to
Paduka. I mean we're a Rivertown. They
[37:34] do fantastic work. And so that's been
the argument from the beginning, you
[37:39] know, for a low rate was because of the
but I I I don't think it's a bad thing
[37:44] for us to evaluate where we are in
relation to market.
[37:49] » So,
>> but they're a nonprofit, right? So, we
[37:53] would be looking at raising the rate or
else we would just be approving it
[37:57] tonight,
>> right? Are you
[37:59] » correct?
I think I mean and we evaluate we come
[38:03] back and say, "Okay, we're going to vote
on the same thing a month from now." But
[38:06] I think we need to understand the market
rates
[38:12] and also we need to understand make sure
the commission understands Seaman's
[38:16] Institute. I mean, they're a big they're
a nonprofit, but they're a big
[38:20] organization.
nationwide.
[38:23] » Well, I know they were heavily recruited
when they were located here, I think, by
[38:26] Mayor Montgomery, uh, because it was a
definitely an anchor for our community
[38:32] that the number of people that come in
for the training definitely have a big
[38:38] economic impact on our community. So, I
think there are other things to be
[38:42] reviewing as well,
>> right?
[38:47] To keep in mind. I'm not saying to
review that, to keep in mind.
[38:53] Okay, we have a motion and a second on
the floor.
[38:55] » Would you explain?
>> Uh, this is to postpone this item for
[38:59] one month. A yes vote will postpone for
one month.
[39:04] » We say month just till the next to the
October 2nd commission meeting.
[39:08] » That's a special call meeting. Have it
on that one.
[39:12] » Commissioner Henderson.
>> No.
[39:14] » Commissioner Smith.
>> I.
[39:16] » Commissioner Thomas.
>> I.
[39:18] » Commissioner Wilson. No.
>> Mayor Bray
[39:21] » I.
>> Motion passes.
[39:28] » Okay. Thanks for the excitement.
>> Yeah. Sorry, I'll be quiet.
[39:33] » No, you won't.
>> All right. Let's move on uh to municipal
[39:39] orders.
A proposed motion of the board of
[39:42] commissioners to adopt a municipal order
entitled a municipal order approving an
[39:45] agreement between the city of Paduka,
Kentucky and Northwest Tennessee
[39:48] Disposal Corporation for the transfer,
transport, and disposal of municipal
[39:52] solid waste and authorizing the mayor to
execute the agreement.
[39:55] » So move second.
>> Michelle.
[40:03] Right.
>> Good evening. Uh mayor, commissioner,
[40:05] city manager, and city clerk. Uh Chris
Yarbor would typically be presenting
[40:09] this, but of course he is unable to be
here, so you're stuck with me tonight.
[40:14] So this is an important contract for us.
This would be uh basically doing
[40:18] business with uh Republic is who they're
more commonly known as that maintains
[40:22] our transfer station where we take our
solid waste and recyclables and they
[40:26] would trans they're also responsible for
transport transporting and disposing the
[40:31] solid waste and recyclables to the
appropriate facility and then also
[40:34] running our citizen dropoff services.
So um [clears throat]
[40:39] we did go out for an RFP. They came back
as the lowest evaluated proposal
[40:44] and the service date. This is similar to
those others where we're shortening the
[40:47] contracts. So the service date under
this agreement would start in September
[40:50] 7th 27th of 2026 and it would be for 5
years with the option to extend for
[40:56] another 5 years. Um really daytoday the
citizens and the businesses won't see
[41:02] much of a difference. This is more of a
backend of you know where we take um our
[41:06] solid waste and recyclables that we pick
up. The biggest change would be the
[41:10] recycling dropoff location. that would
change effective on September 28th. Um,
[41:16] another change in the contract is that
the um, Republic will actually be
[41:20] contributing to our spring cleanup day
and so they'll be contributing $20,000
[41:24] each year. Um, oh, another thing I
wanted to mention is uh, with the
[41:29] citizens not really seeing a change, the
recyclables are staying the same that we
[41:34] currently accept both curbside and at
the drop off facility. Um, I'm glad to
[41:38] talk a little bit about the drop off
facility, but we do have a
[41:41] representative here from Republic who I
think would like to say a few words if
[41:44] that's okay.
>> Please.
[41:48] [clears throat]
[41:50] » Good evening, commissioners. For the
record, my name is Todd Chamberlain and
[41:54] I'm the manager of municipal and
government affairs for public services.
[41:57] Um, we're very excited about the
partnership with the city going forward,
[42:02] not just to manage the MSW or the the
trash and the waste that is generated
[42:06] and collected within the city limits,
but also to work with you as a partner
[42:10] on recycling and expand that to drive uh
additional diversions um through the use
[42:16] of our transfer station that we have
that is in very close proximity to your
[42:21] public works facility. In fact, we
sheriff line. So, um, you know, when you
[42:26] look at things and opportunities to, uh,
to find partnerships, there's really
[42:30] some efficiencies and some productivity
that you will benefit from with the
[42:35] proximity of this facility next door.
Um, but as far as recycling goes, our
[42:40] company is feels that recycling and
diversions are absolutely essential uh
[42:46] to the entire wholesale waste management
process. Um, so much so that not only
[42:52] are we focusing on just the keys of
plastics one through sevens, we divide
[42:58] [clears throat] it into fibers and
rigids with aluminum and uh metal cans
[43:03] and that type of material. But what we
have found is that through partnerships
[43:09] with our national accounts customers
such as PepsiCo, Proctor and Gamble and
[43:15] a lot of large manufacturers, they
simply [snorts] can't get enough plastic
[43:19] to meet their own postconumer use goals.
So what we have done is we have volume
[43:25] from a variety of municipal uh contracts
throughout the country. What we're
[43:30] trying to do is figure out how to get
that volume, source it out. So what we
[43:34] have done is we've created four polymer
centers and the plastics that we collect
[43:39] here in Paduca and other contracts um
will find will ultimately be
[43:44] consolidated into volume that will go to
these polymer centers where we will
[43:49] color separate wash flake and then
provide back to these manufacturers who
[43:55] want an orange to make another orange
Tide bottle. Um, so that particular
[44:01] product and specifically in the plastic
side of our business, um, is really,
[44:05] really important to these folks. So
rather than going out and having to
[44:08] create more [snorts] material and
plastic, they want clear green for the,
[44:14] uh, squint bottles, they want um, they
want the orange for Tide, they want a
[44:19] variety of these colors. So, uh, we have
created these polymer centers and that's
[44:23] where we're going to focus where your
material as well as hundreds of
[44:28] thousands of tons across the country are
going to be utilized in that same way.
[44:31] So, we're excited about it. Uh, we're
excited about the opportunity to work
[44:35] with you to expand recycling, not just
in those aspects, but ones that make
[44:40] sense. I'm really, really big on finding
diversions that make sense rather than
[44:45] just wishful cycling is what I call it.
Um, I would love to be able to recycle
[44:51] absolutely everything. About 70% of what
we throw away can be recycled. The
[44:54] problem is there's no markets for them.
Unless you have a market and unless you
[44:58] have volume, unless you can manage the
transportation cost, it's very difficult
[45:02] to drive that. So, we want to partner
with you um and look for other
[45:05] opportunities, not just in the ridges
and the fibers that we have today, but
[45:09] continue to push that envelope as much
as we can. So, well, glad to answer any
[45:12] questions that you have.
>> Yeah. So, thank you for being here. Uh
[45:16] we're excited to get started with you.
Uh glass is kind of a constant um
[45:21] question from our customers is uh I'm
sure there's more expense with that, but
[45:26] I know glass is recycled.
>> It absolutely is recyclable. Um as I
[45:31] mentioned those things that you have to
have a market for. I'll give you a good
[45:34] example. Across the river in Indiana up
toward Indianapolis, they have a
[45:39] certainted plant uh makes fiberglass
insulation. They're more than glad to
[45:44] take a lot of that glass. However,
getting the glass from any point to
[45:49] there is significantly more expensive
than the value of that. We believe that
[45:55] there is a recycling option for most
items. It's whether or not the finances
[46:01] make it make sense. But in But I will
also say this very loudly,
[46:07] doing the right thing often costs more
money. It's just the reality of what we
[46:12] work in. So if it is important to the
residents, if important to the
[46:15] administration, it's important to our
company, then we can entertain those
[46:20] things and look at diversions and see
how they would fit. But glass is one
[46:23] that I get asked so often. Mayor, um out
west, they will take the blue, the the
[46:30] green, the clear, and the brown. They
will crush it, tumble it, and it's used
[46:35] for ground cover instead of mulch out
west where we use mulch of a variety of
[46:40] colors. They use that as brown ground
cover. The trend just isn't that here.
[46:46] And I wish I had a better answer for
you. You can use we we've we've done
[46:49] some test experiments uh and trying to
find it, but it you just don't have the
[46:55] uses for it. And if you don't have an
outlet for it, then it's difficult to
[46:58] make it make sense. We'd love to see it.
So, another question I have is that, you
[47:04] know, Paduka has in the last
[clears throat] four years, I guess
[47:08] you'd say three or four years, you know,
we've really increased our curbside
[47:11] recycling.
>> Understand that? Yes.
[47:12] » Uh we've all worked on that. Uh staff
has worked on that. Uh a group of us
[47:17] went down and actually
uh toured uh where our recyclables go.
[47:24] Where will our recyclables go with you?
We will take the materials from our
[47:29] facility here in Paduca and we will
transload those into tractor trailers
[47:35] and they will actually go to what used
to be called recommunity in Memphis,
[47:39] [clears throat] Tennessee, but now it's
just simply known as Republic Recycling.
[47:43] Um, and we have a facility there and it
is at that point it will get segmented
[47:49] out and we will determine what materials
go to which mills. If it is the plastics
[47:55] uh one through sevens, we're going to
focus on trying to get those to one of
[47:58] our polymer centers, which the closest
facility to to our area or region would
[48:04] be Indianapolis.
Um you have to have a lot of volume.
[48:07] There's one in Indianapolis. There's one
operational in um Las Vegas. Um Houston
[48:13] and Dallas are fighting over whether
[snorts] they're who's going to get the
[48:15] next one. And then there will also be
one in the Carolinas. So, but there will
[48:20] only be four facilities.
So, I would just say, you know, we've
[48:23] done a good job of increasing that. So,
anything you can do to help us increase
[48:28] that, educate our, you know, our
residents on on recycling.
[48:33] Um, I was talking to my niece the other
day and she called me when I was um
[48:38] bringing the recycling up the driveway
and she said, "We've got a recycling
[48:43] can, but we're not we're not doing it."
And so, that made me very sad. One of my
[48:50] relatives wasn't recycling. So, u my
last question has to do with um uh where
[48:57] people take their recycling. It's moving
from [snorts] out in Littleville um out
[49:03] to to
>> Yes. to 829 Bernett. Um which is as he
[49:10] mentioned right behind our public works.
It's at 9inth Street and Bernett. And
[49:13] the hours the um materials we're
collecting will be the same. The hours
[49:17] will be Monday through Friday, 7:00 a.m.
to 4:00 and Saturday 7:00 a.m. to noon.
[49:21] And of course, we'll work with Pam to
get that message out, signage, all of
[49:24] those things. And that will become
effective, excuse me, Monday, um,
[49:28] September [clears throat] 20 or Yeah,
September 28th.
[49:31] » And the capacity to take those is going
to be about the same as what it is now.
[49:35] » Absolutely. Yes. Um, in fact, if you
look here at the
[49:39] the slide, um, over on if you're coming
off of Bernett Street over to the right
[49:43] hand side in the corner there, we will
ask everyone to go across the scale so
[49:48] we can identify and make sure and
basically ask the question, what do you
[49:51] have? Because we don't want to have a
high degree of contamination. U, that's
[49:55] one of the things that's really bad
[cough] on the recycling [clears throat]
[49:57] side. Then they will cross the scale and
then go toward the back line fence line
[50:02] there the the gr the forested area there
and turn right again and go back to this
[50:09] um recycling facility where we will have
containers that are available
[50:12] [clears throat] there. Uh the intent and
the plan is to have what's called
[50:15] A-frames. These are closed topped
sliding containers. If someone source
[50:21] separates them and says, "I'm going to
just put my paper in this one, my
[50:24] cardboard in this one, and my rigids in
this one," they'll have that option. Um,
[50:30] but then [clears throat] you don't have
to separate by any means. You can put it
[50:32] in there. It's called single stream. You
just throw it all in together and we
[50:36] will transport it and run it through the
transfer station and then to the
[50:39] recycling facilities.
And we we can also provide as part of
[50:43] reporting, you know, the tonnages. I
think uh in the RFP roughly 1,600 tons
[50:49] is what was re what was reported for the
recycling side. Um we can provide you
[50:54] reporting to show increase decrease
status quo but obviously we want to see
[50:58] that increase. You know, I don't want to
go down deep hole here, but but I know
[51:03] that in our previous discussions, we'd
identified, you know, the fact that
[51:07] people from out from surrounding
counties bring their recycling to us
[51:13] because they don't have availability and
we don't charge them for that and so
[51:18] we're paying for that. So, I think
that's a future opportunity for us to
[51:23] take a look at making sure. I don't know
if you do that in other locations to try
[51:29] to verify lo um residency. I mean, I'm
sure that's complicated. Um
[51:36] the reality is doing the right thing is
often difficult as I mentioned earlier.
[51:40] Um that said, if provided that we can
manage the volume inbound and that it
[51:48] does not disrupt any of the waste and
collections, I don't see a problem
[51:54] because I think the the delta between
what recycling volume is coming in
[51:59] versus what the trash volume that we
would need to manage. The delta is very
[52:03] the difference there is very large. So,
I I think we have plenty of capacity to
[52:08] manage a significant increase on the
recycling side. And yes, I mean, there's
[52:12] a processing fee, you know, for the
[clears throat] curbside volume, but
[52:17] we're not charging the residents uh or
the administration for what a resident
[52:23] brings in in their own pickup truck or
in their own or in their in their own
[52:28] vehicle.
>> So, that's that's a discussion for a
[52:30] future day. Sure. So, absolutely.
Agreed.
[52:33] » All right. That was my questions.
[52:38] I just comment that that's a very handy
recycling location. So
[52:46] » we feel so as well.
>> Okay. Thank you very much for being
[52:50] here. Thank you, Michelle. I'd ask the
city clerk to call roll, please.
[52:54] » Commissioner Henderson.
>> Hi.
[52:56] » Commissioner Smith.
>> I.
[52:57] » Commissioner Thomas.
>> Hi.
[52:58] » Commissioner Wilson.
>> Hi.
[53:00] » Mayor Bray. I
[snorts]
[53:05] » we go to the next one.
>> A proposed motion of the board of
[53:09] commissioners to adopt a municipal order
entitled a municipal order declaring
[53:12] certain city-owned real property located
on Salem Avenue and Hampton Avenue as
[53:16] surplus property. Authorizing the sale
of said property to Salem
[53:20] [clears throat] Avenue LLC, authorizing
the mayor to execute a development
[53:23] agreement and authorizing the mayor to
execute special warranty deeds and other
[53:26] documents necessary to complete the
conveyance. So move second.
[53:31] » Good evening everyone. We have a
development agreement um with Salem
[53:36] Avenue LLC for you to look at tonight.
And Mr. Ed Cooper, who is the developer,
[53:42] is here. And there were 10 parcels
located along that block on Salem Avenue
[53:48] that were for sale um by private owner.
And the city had about six lots.
[53:55] Six, we go six and seven. and there were
two 20ft lots that really couldn't be
[53:58] built on. So, um he we're going to
essentially combine those and do a
[54:03] waiver of subdivision so he gets a good
40ft lot. So, it will lessen the number
[54:07] of lot by one. But, um he made a
proposal to build 15 single family
[54:13] residential homes throughout that whole
block. And so, this is the development
[54:18] agreement that follows suit with that.
[snorts] and we're going to reimburse 5%
[54:23] or 10,000 on each home, whichever
[clears throat] is the least amount is
[54:28] is what he's agreed to. And none of the
homes shall exceed $250,000
[54:33] in sale price. And he's just starting to
build them one right after another. And
[54:38] it runs through August 1st of 2029.
But he's here to answer any questions.
[54:44] Um, we're pretty excited to have a
developer come up and take a whole block
[54:48] and and do single family residential and
do them at the rate he's doing them in
[54:53] the quality product that he's doing.
>> Well, we'd like to meet him for sure.
[54:56] » Bring him up.
[54:59] » I had contrary to popular belief, I have
not been in a fight. I had an allergic
[55:03] reaction, but when I saw him tonight for
the first time, he looked at me and I
[55:06] know he was thinking, "Hell, who you
been duking it out with?" [laughter]
[55:10] » But here he is.
>> Thank you, sir, and welcome. Um, so tell
[55:14] us a little bit about yourself.
>> Uh, I grew up in Paduka. Uh, graduated
[55:19] in 1978 from Heath High School. Uh, left
in uh, shortly after that 79 to go to
[55:26] college. Was gone for a little over 40
years. Was in college [clears throat]
[55:30] the whole time. [laughter]
My wife uh, also is Paduka native. We
[55:35] went to high school together. And, um,
she came back and bought a house.
[55:40] actually bought Bruce's house um in
2023,
[55:46] I guess. And uh I followed not long
after. I travel a good bit. Um and I had
[55:52] some uh uh I had a a hole in my heart. I
had a atrial uh hole and uh that I've
[56:01] had since birth was repaired in on the
third try in um January of last year.
[56:08] And as I recovered from that, I'm like,
you know, I feel better than I have for
[56:12] a long time. Need something to do.
Technically, I'm retired for the third
[56:16] time. Uh, and [clears throat] so I was
looking at uh buying some houses to rent
[56:21] as midterm rentals. Uh, actually was
looking at one on Salem Avenue that was
[56:25] for sale. Came out. Jeff Garner, who is
my agent, I'm sure. I know Jeff
[56:30] » um was with me and I saw these lots that
had just gone on the market the day
[56:34] before and I said, "Well, I'm going to
I'm going to do a 180 here on you,
[56:37] Jeff." And uh not a builder. I've never
built anything. My background is in the
[56:42] mortgage business. Uh I've done a couple
of thousand construction loans, but had
[56:46] never driven the nails. I'm still not
driving the nails. Uh bought the lots,
[56:51] started working with Carol and and her
folks who've been great. Uh they've
[56:55] given me an immense amount of
information because again, I don't know
[56:57] what I'm doing. uh and have been very
helpful. Uh I5 uh did a design with
[57:02] them. They've been very helpful. Jimmy
Langston, who I'm sure most of you know,
[57:07] uh worked with him years ago at Paduka
Drug Company. Uh so I've gotten a lot of
[57:11] good input from folks. And uh my goal is
to build entry level homes over there so
[57:17] that people preferably who uh are
firsttime buyers uh have not been in the
[57:23] market before we can get into the
market. We broke ground on March 31st on
[57:28] the first one and uh we would have
finished it a little bit earlier, but
[57:33] there was a couple m material sniffs,
but we finished it about uh two Fridays
[57:38] ago. I guess some folks uh looked at it
on Sunday, made an offer on Monday, it
[57:42] sold its closing on the 22nd. It
appraised for 2 $10,000. Uh I listed and
[57:48] sold it sold it for $199. Um, and they
are first-time buyers that uh live out
[57:54] of town now and uh but work in Paduka
and are going to be moving to Paduka to
[57:59] uh
>> Congratulations.
[58:01] » Thank you.
>> Congratulations.
[58:02] » So excited to work with the city.
Excited to hopefully provide some
[58:05] opportunities for people to get into the
housing market and uh and u do something
[58:10] good for the place that I grew up and
love.
[58:13] » Thank you.
>> We wish you the best of luck. Welcome
[58:16] welcome home and uh let us know
>> home again. [laughter]
[58:21] Yeah, I've been there, done that myself.
So,
[58:23] » thank you very much.
>> All right. Thank you for being here.
[58:26] [clears throat]
>> All right. I'd ask I' I'd please call
[58:30] roll.
>> Commissioner Henderson.
[58:31] » Hi.
>> Commissioner Smith.
[58:33] » I.
>> Commissioner Thomas.
[58:34] » Hi.
>> Commissioner Wilson.
[58:35] » Hi.
>> Mayor Bray.
[58:36] » I.
>> All right. We have three ordinances to
[58:40] introduce tonight. Um,
>> and I'll ask the city clerk to read the
[58:46] first one. A proposed motion of the
board of commissioners to introduce an
[58:49] ordinance entitled an ordinance
authorizing the mayor to execute a
[58:52] memorandum of understanding and
residential infield development
[58:55] agreement with Chapman Property
Development LLC for the Melody Lane
[58:58] development. This ordinance is
summarized as follows. The city and
[59:01] Chapman Property Development LLC desire
to enter into a memorandum of
[59:05] understanding providing for the
construction and acceptance of eligible
[59:08] public improvements and the
reimbursement of certain eligible costs
[59:11] through a residential infill development
agreement. Reimbursement shall be
[59:14] limited to eligible co costs actually
incurred for the construction of public
[59:19] improvements to be acquired and owned by
the city not to exceed the amount of
[59:23] city adalerum real property taxes
collected from the development during
[59:27] the applicable 5-year eligibility
period.
[59:30] » I move
>> second.
[59:33] » Evening mayor, commissioners, city
manager, city clerk. Um, as it said
[59:38] there, this is an infill agreement uh
for the um with Chapman Development
[59:43] Properties for the apartments on Melody
Lane and to reimburse for the
[59:48] construction of uh the road to city
standards.
[59:53] » Yeah. Where is Melody Lane?
>> Nolan Lane off or Nolan Road off of um
[59:59] » it's kind of behind the McDonald's on
Lono Road.
[1:00:01] » Road, correct? Okay.
>> Yes.
[1:00:03] » Nolan Drive there. That's comes off
Melody Lane. And how many apartments? Uh
[1:00:08] » uh eight unit eight buildings uh four
units a piece.
[1:00:11] » Okay. 32 appointments. Okay.
[1:00:16] » Yeah. That's and that's the development
where the previous developer passed away
[1:00:20] suddenly. Is it Are we thinking about
the I was thinking about the same one
[1:00:24] » adjacent to that part of it.
>> Okay.
[1:00:30] Okay. And uh Jim Chapman is a developer.
He's also sits on our planning and
[1:00:35] zoning uh board and uh he's developed
some uh you know he bought the Ritz
[1:00:41] apartments Ritz and developed those
apartments and he's got some other
[1:00:45] developments around town. So it's good
to see you know one of our uh better
[1:00:51] known developers
um jumping in to you know helping us
[1:00:55] increase housing. So
questions anybody.
[1:01:01] » Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:01:07] » Ask the city clerk to read the next
ordinance introduction. A proposed
[1:01:12] motion that the board of commissioners
introduce an [clears throat] ordinance
[1:01:14] entitled an ordinance fixing the levies
and rates of taxation on all property in
[1:01:18] the city of Baduca, Kentucky, subject to
taxation for municipal purposes for the
[1:01:22] period from July 1, 2026 through June
30th, 2027 with the purposes of said
[1:01:26] taxes here and under defined purpose and
rate per $100. General fund of the city
[1:01:32] real property at.253 $253
personal property except inventory at
[1:01:38] $.34
motor vehicles and watercraft at $.39
[1:01:44] Paduca Junior College real estate at 014
personal property except inventory at
[1:01:51] 014
motor vehicles and watercraft at 031
[1:01:56] property taxes property taxes levied
herein shall be due and payable in the
[1:02:00] following manner in the case of tax
bills which reflect an amount due of
[1:02:04] less than $2,000.
The payment shall be due on November 1,
[1:02:08] 2026, and shall be payable without
penalty and interest until November
[1:02:12] 30th, 2026. In the case of all other tax
bills, payment shall be in accordance
[1:02:16] with the following provisions. The first
half payment shall be due on November
[1:02:20] 1st, 2026, and shall be payable without
penalty and interest until November
[1:02:24] 30th, 2026. The second half payment
shall be due on February 1, 2027, and
[1:02:29] shall be payable without penalty and
interest until March 1st, 2027. Some
[1:02:34] moved.
>> Second.
[1:02:36] [cough]
>> Good evening, [clears throat] mayor,
[1:02:37] city commissioners, city managers, city
clerk. As Lindsay said, tonight I'm here
[1:02:42] to talk to you about uh the proposed
property tax rates for fiscal 27. This
[1:02:47] year, we [clears throat] are proposing a
decrease for both real estate and
[1:02:50] personal property rates. [music]
[1:02:55] For real estate, we are recommending
0.253, 253, which is 25.3 cents per $100
[1:03:02] of valuation and is a decrease from last
year's rate of 27.1 cents per $100. This
[1:03:09] is the lowest real estate rate since
2013 when the rate was an even 25.
[1:03:17] For personal property, we are
recommending 34, which is a decrease
[1:03:21] from last year's rate of.356.
As most of our citizens are primarily
[1:03:26] interested in the real estate rate, that
is where I'd like to focus the remainder
[1:03:29] of my presentation.
[1:03:34] The city's property tax rate options are
calculated by a statriven formula that
[1:03:38] compares the city's current total
assessments to those of the prior year.
[1:03:43] The assessment date for the current year
is 1 one of 2026.
[1:03:47] This year we're proposing to take the
compensating rate which is the rate that
[1:03:51] will generate approximately the same
amount of revenue as in the prior year
[1:03:55] because the rate asset uh rate
calculation is driven by total
[1:03:59] assessments the compensating rate can go
up or down. So this year based on uh the
[1:04:05] increase in assessed value that we had
the compensating rate it's lower than
[1:04:10] last year's rate by almost 2 cents per
$100.
[1:04:18] Total real property assessments
increased for the city by $26 million.
[1:04:23] Of this about 172 million was from
reassessments and the remaining 34
[1:04:28] million was from new property and higher
property sales. About 9700 uh city
[1:04:34] properties, that is about 67% of city
properties were reassessed resulting in
[1:04:39] 4,260 changes in assessment. And all of
that information was we got that from
[1:04:44] Bill Dunn over PBA. This means that
approximately 70% of city property
[1:04:50] owners will see a decrease for their
real estate bills.
[1:04:55] And here's an example of what that
change might look like. Assuming that
[1:04:59] you did not uh receive an assessment up,
you you've not been reassessed over the
[1:05:05] past year and your home value is
200,000. Uh last year the city portion
[1:05:09] of your property tax would have been
$542 and this year it'll be $56 for a
[1:05:15] decrease of $36.
[1:05:20] One last thing I'd like to add is that
the fiscal 27 budget was prepared with
[1:05:24] the expectation of taking the
compensating rate. So this decision is
[1:05:27] in line with assumptions that were made
during the budget process.
[1:05:31] There any questions?
[1:05:35] » No questions.
Okay.
[1:05:37] » Well, I'll just make a comment. You of
course we get a lot of calls and
[1:05:43] comments about people concerned about
their assessment on their house and
[1:05:48] that's really not anything that we do.
We don't control that.
[1:05:51] » No,
>> that's uh something that's done by
[1:05:54] another by uh
>> all that's done
[1:05:57] » officer. So, yes,
>> but we still get the calls. So, yes.
[1:06:01] » Um
>> but I just it's always good to point
[1:06:03] that back out people watching. So,
>> yes. how that works. We receive a file
[1:06:07] from uh the property valuation office
and load that file and apply the rates
[1:06:12] that we pass and and that generates the
bills.
[1:06:17] » Other thing that the thing I'd
[clears throat] like to focus on is that
[1:06:21] 70% of the city taxpayers will have a
decrease
[1:06:24] » Yeah.
>> in real estate taxes.
[1:06:26] » Yeah. We uh Stephanie actually
Stephanie's here tonight. Stephanie
[1:06:29] reached out to Bill and he provided us
lots of lots of data regarding the
[1:06:33] assessments this year. It was very
helpful because I was curious to see,
[1:06:36] you know, how what percentage of
citizens would actually see this
[1:06:39] decrease. So,
>> Ben, that needs to be your headline.
[1:06:43] [laughter]
[1:06:46] » Thank you, Audrey.
>> And the rate and the rate is as low as
[1:06:48] it's been since 2013. Now that that you
know John Perkins we have we have the
[1:06:52] tax rate going back to 1905 probably but
uh no I look I look to see when it was
[1:06:57] and it was u 2013 when it was last that
>> not many tax uh t this time of the year
[1:07:03] not many of these meetings are really
that happy.
[1:07:06] » Well I was going to make a joke when I
came up here that usually I bear bad
[1:07:09] news and I was kind of excited about
this one. So
[1:07:12] » yeah glad to report this.
>> Thank you very much Audrey.
[1:07:16] » Yeah that that looks like a good
headline. kidding. [laughter]
[1:07:19] » You want to see it tomorrow?
[1:07:23] » Okay. I'll ask the city clerk to read
the last ordinance introduction.
[1:07:29] » A proposed motion of the board of
commissioners to introduce an ordinance
[1:07:31] entitled an ordinance amending the code
of ordinances of the city of Paduka,
[1:07:35] Kentucky to create the department of
community development. This ordinance is
[1:07:38] summarized as follows. This ordinance
amends chapters 2, 18, 34, 42, 46, 54,
[1:07:44] 82, 102, 106, and 126 of the Paduka code
of ordinances to create the department
[1:07:49] of community development and to update
the code to reflect the city's
[1:07:52] reorganization of certain development
related functions. This ordinance also
[1:07:56] clarifies the respective roles of the
building division, fire prevention
[1:07:59] division, and other city departments
involved in the development review,
[1:08:02] permitting, inspection, code
enforcement, rental occupancy, fire
[1:08:05] prevention, and related enforcement
matters. The planning commission held a
[1:08:09] public hearing on September 3rd, 2026
and reported a favorable recommendation
[1:08:12] to the city commission regarding the
proposed amendments to chapter 126
[1:08:16] zoning. Upon adoption, the ordinance
shall be published in summary and shall
[1:08:20] include the full text of each section
that imposes taxes or fees in accordance
[1:08:23] with KRS83A.
060 subsection 9.
[1:08:27] » So move.
>> Second.
[1:08:32] » Well, Lindsay did the heavy lifting on
this one to be honest. There's about 170
[1:08:36] pages of code changes that um were
required to get this done and she's been
[1:08:41] through those with a fine tooth comb,
sent them over to the attorney's office
[1:08:44] and then uh we've all met with the
attorney to to walk through those. Um
[1:08:49] but this is in in essence creating the
department of community development.
[1:08:54] » Okay.
>> No questions from me. Great.
[1:08:59] » It's what we had to do.
>> Okay. Thank you very much for being
[1:09:02] here, Carol. Thank you.
Okay. Any comments from the city
[1:09:08] manager?
>> Uh mayor, commission, and for the
[1:09:10] public's uh knowledge referenced this a
little bit earlier in the meeting. Uh we
[1:09:15] will not have our regularly scheduled
second meeting in September. Uh due to
[1:09:19] conflicts, we will uh have our next
meeting uh as a special called meeting
[1:09:24] at this time on October the 2nd. That
Friday, it'll be a Friday afternoon.
[1:09:28] » Friday afternoon. We all have it on our
calendars.
[1:09:30] » Yep.
>> Okay. comments from any commissioners
[1:09:36] » down this way.
>> You may know the calendar better than I
[1:09:38] do, but I know [laughter] Thursday at
six o'clock we have the new sports park
[1:09:41] opening.
>> The next week on Friday at 4:00
[1:09:45] Riverfront, everybody can chime in here.
And then Albert Jones Park the last week
[1:09:50] and that's I'm not sure what time.
[1:09:56] » Well, my calendar is messing up.
>> Oh, Dewan, come on. technology.
[1:10:04] » What's that week?
>> We got a lot We got a lot of things
[1:10:06] going on. We got a lot of think
>> we've been working on a lot of projects.
[1:10:09] We got a lot of ribbon cutings and um I
was at the Cobb Park, you know, just
[1:10:15] this last week,
>> one o'clock on the 29th.
[1:10:18] » I was at the Cobb Park uh ribbon cutting
this last week. And you know, that
[1:10:23] playground equipment, I was really
impressed with the quality of the
[1:10:28] equipment. It's right there in the
middle of the southside. Um, actually
[1:10:33] there was a couple there that were
pregnant, expecting their first child.
[1:10:38] So, it was um it was good to be there
and good to see the investment that's
[1:10:44] been made.
>> 1 p.m.
[1:10:47] » Mhm.
>> Comments down here. We good?
[1:10:52] » Okay. We will have an executive session
tonight. We do not plan to take any
[1:10:58] action afterwards
and I would ask the city the city clerk
[1:11:02] to please
read a proposed motion of the board of
[1:11:06] commissioners to go into close session
for discussion of matters pertaining to
[1:11:10] the following topics. Future sale or
acquisition of a specific parcel of real
[1:11:14] estate as permitted by KRS61.810
subsection 1B. Proposed or pending
[1:11:19] litigation is permitted by KRS61.810
subsection 1C. A specific proposal by a
[1:11:25] business entity where public discussion
of the subject matter [clears throat]
[1:11:27] would jeopardize the location,
retention, expansion, or upgrading of a
[1:11:31] business entity is permitted by
KRS61.810
[1:11:34] subsection 1G and conduct of a
performance review of the city manager
[1:11:38] as permitted by KRS 83A150
subsection 4D.
[1:11:44] » So move second.
>> Call roll.
[1:11:47] » Commissioner Henderson.
>> I.
[1:11:49] » Commissioner Smith.
>> I.
[1:11:50] » Commissioner Thomas.
>> Hi.
[1:11:51] » Commissioner Wilson.
>> Hi.
[1:11:52] » Mayor Bray. I
[1:12:00] » I'll run to the restroom.
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