1 00:00:21,550 --> 00:00:32,290 I would like to call the tax budget hearing to order. For the 2024 year, roll call for attendance, please. Mr. Abding. 2 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:38,310 Mr. Augustine is absent. Mrs. Denallo. Mr. Boder. 3 00:00:39,350 --> 00:00:44,330 Mr. Hack is absent. Mr. Rodriguez is absent and Mrs. Schu. 4 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:53,030 Here, can I have a motion to excuse Paul Hack, Nick Augustine, and Mario Rodriguez from 5 00:00:53,030 --> 00:00:54,190 the Public Area? 6 00:00:55,230 --> 00:00:55,970 So moved. 7 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:57,790 Second, somebody? 8 00:00:58,750 --> 00:00:59,050 Yes. 9 00:00:59,970 --> 00:01:00,850 Second. 10 00:01:02,110 --> 00:01:02,590 Second. 11 00:01:02,590 --> 00:01:03,030 Second. 12 00:01:03,590 --> 00:01:03,990 Second. 13 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:08,520 Second. 14 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Second. 15 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:11,580 Second. 16 00:01:14,340 --> 00:01:14,500 Second. 17 00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:14,660 Second. 18 00:01:14,660 --> 00:01:18,680 is the tax budget for the 2024 year. 19 00:01:18,940 --> 00:01:22,580 This is a document that basically outlines the county auditor's office. 20 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:28,600 What levees the city collects via property taxes, and there are several. 21 00:01:28,980 --> 00:01:33,580 There's a general fund, the Bond Retirement Fund, the Police Pension Fund, Fire Pension 22 00:01:33,580 --> 00:01:39,260 Fund, Fire Protection Levy, Fire Improvement Levy, Your Road Improvement Levy, and finally 23 00:01:39,260 --> 00:01:41,060 the Police Protection Levy. 24 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,220 These all collect from my new property taxes. 25 00:01:44,220 --> 00:01:53,580 This is the total voted millage for your job spot, which is an inside millages 2.16. 26 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:56,200 So that will move with property values. 27 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,080 Your debt service is 0.24, which is inside. 28 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,480 That will move with property values. 29 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:07,700 Your pension fund, your police pension fund, 0.3 mills inside, lose with property values. 30 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,340 Fire pension fund. 31 00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:16,380 The same at 0.3, that will also move, we'll probably guys because it's inside millage. 32 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,820 The fire protection falls outside the 10 mills, that's 0.7. 33 00:02:21,460 --> 00:02:24,020 So you will have an effective rate, so as property values rise. 34 00:02:24,260 --> 00:02:26,980 For example, that effective rate will decrease. 35 00:02:28,900 --> 00:02:34,560 So originally past the 0.7, effective mills for residential is 0.29, 36 00:02:34,660 --> 00:02:37,280 and I could read all six, just round it. 37 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,960 You are there, fire levee, 1.47, and originally voted. 38 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,120 It is now collecting at 1.13. 39 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:48,960 You wrote in Bridge levee, originally passed the three mills. 40 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:50,800 It's currently collecting at 2.31. 41 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,580 And lastly, you're police protection levee. 42 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,580 Two and a half mills, currently collecting at 2.07. 43 00:02:58,540 --> 00:02:59,560 So what does that mean? 44 00:02:59,740 --> 00:03:01,640 Thank you. I was just gonna ask that. 45 00:03:03,020 --> 00:03:11,180 What that means is as I explain anything outside of the 10 mills, your values rise, your 46 00:03:11,180 --> 00:03:11,880 millage drops. 47 00:03:12,260 --> 00:03:17,840 So that the collections that the city takes in stays exactly the same, absent, of course, 48 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,460 to link with these. 49 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:29,540 So what that tells me is your original, and it's a good thing, your original voted mills 50 00:03:30,100 --> 00:03:32,040 are higher than your effective mill. 51 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,940 means property values have been going up in the city so that's why they're your 52 00:03:35,940 --> 00:03:39,940 effective knowledge is dropping. So for collection purposes, 53 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,040 your general 54 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:53,000 fund is taking in $594,000. You buy retirement fund, $66,000. You please 55 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:59,360 pension fund, $83,000. Your fire pension fund, $83,000. Your fire protection 56 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,800 112,000, your fire improvement levy, 323,000. 57 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:12,460 Road improvement levy, 650,000, and lastly, your police protection levy, 580,000. 58 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,320 So that is a grand total of $2.5 million dollars. 59 00:04:18,950 --> 00:04:23,750 So this information comes from the County Outer's Office, we're required to then put this 60 00:04:23,750 --> 00:04:27,210 information on this, put it to get a tax budget, and we're going back to the County Outer's 61 00:04:27,210 --> 00:04:27,570 Office. 62 00:04:27,570 --> 00:04:30,230 But that's where I get all of my numbers and estimates. 63 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:36,140 The next page, so that your next page of your text schedule, 64 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,080 what I have to report out to the county orders office 65 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,780 is the fun activity for each of the funds that collect property taxes. 66 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,300 So the next page, for example. 67 00:04:49,050 --> 00:04:49,950 Is it that page? 68 00:04:51,910 --> 00:04:53,250 You scroll up. 69 00:04:56,830 --> 00:04:58,670 From page 4 right now. 70 00:04:59,550 --> 00:05:00,290 I should have up there. 71 00:05:02,010 --> 00:05:09,630 So there's this is what tells the county order, when it was passed, they'll hire a vice code. 72 00:05:10,590 --> 00:05:16,050 And then those are the voted millage that I just explained the 0.7 and the 1.47 and the 3.5. 73 00:05:16,830 --> 00:05:21,690 So this page is detailing out the summary page. 74 00:05:22,130 --> 00:05:25,970 And it's telling the county order is office, what fund were putting these money in? 75 00:05:25,970 --> 00:05:29,250 When it was first passed, what the voted 76 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:31,650 villages and on our estimate for collections. 77 00:05:32,770 --> 00:05:36,290 So if you go to page five, yep, here we go. 78 00:05:37,930 --> 00:05:40,750 So this, what I tell the county auditor office here, 79 00:05:40,970 --> 00:05:42,990 is I report beginning cash balances, 80 00:05:43,690 --> 00:05:45,630 I report actual for 2022. 81 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:49,570 I estimate for 23, which is the budget 82 00:05:49,570 --> 00:05:52,510 that council passed for 23. 83 00:05:53,030 --> 00:05:54,750 And then for 24, I just make an estimate. 84 00:05:55,730 --> 00:06:00,070 Then that's all it is. It's an estimate. It's not something that the county holds the city too. 85 00:06:00,350 --> 00:06:02,910 If you were with schools, they wouldn't hold the schools to that. 86 00:06:03,010 --> 00:06:04,910 Or in the other entity, they collect property taxes. 87 00:06:05,550 --> 00:06:10,310 That last column is just telling the county what you think you might collect based on the information. 88 00:06:12,610 --> 00:06:13,250 I'll wait to be there. 89 00:06:14,610 --> 00:06:19,870 So you just go through math, revenues over expenditures, beginning cash, you're in in cash. 90 00:06:21,050 --> 00:06:27,870 And then the last line in conferences basically those are any outstanding purchase orders that you have at the end of the year that you have to write in the check for it. 91 00:06:28,190 --> 00:06:33,250 So it's about a million dollars a year. 92 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:40,500 So the next level is the exact same information. 93 00:06:41,020 --> 00:06:42,760 I just do it for every fund listed. 94 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:49,780 So you'll see one for the bond retirement fund or that service fund you'll see one for the police and fire pensions, 95 00:06:49,780 --> 00:06:55,100 the fire protection, levees, the road levee, and then you'll please protection levee. 96 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:02,360 Same set up, your actuals, your estimates, your 23 estimates, which are your budgets, and 97 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,560 then for 24, again, just estimating what the activity may be. 98 00:07:07,020 --> 00:07:08,680 And as you can see, it's at a very high level. 99 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,340 The county orders, we're going to want to know your real estate taxes, your home step will 100 00:07:13,340 --> 00:07:15,960 back, and then any other revenue. 101 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,560 And then as you can see, told our expenditures, it's just one line. 102 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,120 They're not getting into the detail of every single penny. 103 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,820 Exactly where it's spent in every single account. 104 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,420 They just want to high level summary of expenses. 105 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,960 And again, where you think your expenses might be. 106 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,180 That's really the tax budget. 107 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,380 There really isn't much to the tax budget. 108 00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:37,080 It's fairly simple document. 109 00:07:37,220 --> 00:07:40,420 But just report it back to the county's office. 110 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:59,740 So, when we were looking at the 2023 and then the 2024 estimate section, and they were really almost a thousand a million dollars out of twenty three and to twenty four was almost a million dollars off. Why is that? 111 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,680 I was wondering the same thing. 112 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,920 But I wanted to go back to that sweetment where it was the slightest, 113 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,980 I think it's up for which one? 114 00:08:15,620 --> 00:08:16,100 The road? 115 00:08:16,580 --> 00:08:17,080 No. 116 00:08:17,220 --> 00:08:21,540 Where they have all of them together and they showed that. 117 00:08:21,820 --> 00:08:22,220 That's down. 118 00:08:23,020 --> 00:08:23,300 That. 119 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,060 That. 120 00:08:24,060 --> 00:08:24,820 Do you really want to do it? 121 00:08:24,820 --> 00:08:25,800 To be the first page. 122 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:27,400 Yeah. 123 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,140 Not the next one. 124 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:43,310 Next one, I think it's page 21 and uh, okay, no that's not the one but anyway, yes, there it is, ending, so the ending cares balance is not where we collected that's just we got four point four point three 125 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:45,030 in 126 00:08:45,030 --> 00:08:47,170 21, 4.7 127 00:08:47,170 --> 00:08:51,310 current estimate 3.6 and 2.5 128 00:08:52,490 --> 00:08:54,170 but I was assuming 129 00:08:54,790 --> 00:08:57,570 Are we still collecting the same amount? 130 00:08:59,010 --> 00:09:01,510 I mean, our road levee is supposed to give us 500 and what? 131 00:09:01,530 --> 00:09:03,010 600 and more to have a thousand. 132 00:09:03,650 --> 00:09:05,110 Right, your road levee, 133 00:09:09,510 --> 00:09:15,070 road levee is good as scheduled, well, okay, our schedule. 134 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:20,040 Um, did you have a question to you, Laura? 135 00:09:20,220 --> 00:09:20,740 You went one last time? 136 00:09:20,740 --> 00:09:21,160 Yeah, similar. 137 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:29,560 I'm looking at 21 as well as 214 and I am seeing the same thing and what I don't know 138 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:33,640 How can our revenues be less than our expenditures? 139 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:37,800 Do you not have to spend this and stay within that budget? 140 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,540 In that case, I think it's a similar question, it's the state. 141 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,480 Now, where does the ending cash balance come from? 142 00:09:46,220 --> 00:09:52,200 The so-for the beginning cash balance that comes right out of the city financial system. 143 00:09:53,020 --> 00:09:57,620 For this particular example, that four million, six, twenty-nine. 144 00:09:57,620 --> 00:10:08,640 So it's rolled over from the previous year, so the 4.629 million dollars was the ending balance for 21 in the previous. 145 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,820 So that's where that comes from. 146 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,760 So I guess that answers this question. 147 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:18,200 There are expenditures going to be higher because we have a cash balance to start with. 148 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,320 And again, all I'm doing is I'm just copying 23 to 24. 149 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,400 It's not a statement as a direction that the city would take. 150 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:35,100 It's not a endorsement by city council say this is what we're going to spend or this is what 151 00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:35,900 we're going to receive. 152 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:41,240 It's just a rough majority estimate on whether things might stay at stand in 24. 153 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:45,980 Obviously there's going to be a fairly lengthy budget process that the administration is going 154 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:46,560 to go through it. 155 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,860 Obviously finance committee, city council, there's going to be lots of discussions. 156 00:10:50,420 --> 00:10:58,340 in no way is the budget get a match this document. It's just, it's just how to do this, right? 157 00:10:58,340 --> 00:11:02,180 You just have to do this, right? You just have to do this. It's a quick and dirty. The county is not going to say, 158 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,200 hey, you're spending less, spending more. It's spending more and can't do that. 159 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:11,260 The only thing that they really care about, if you're any cash balance, this is just say forsaken discussions, 160 00:11:11,660 --> 00:11:15,240 show $99,400. It's just take away the two and a half. 161 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:21,060 It had in conferences of a million dollars, they're going to say, well, hey, you're showing 162 00:11:21,660 --> 00:11:28,900 purchasers outstanding of a million dollars, they're obligated to write a check for, but your cash balance is only 99-4. 163 00:11:29,380 --> 00:11:31,700 That's when they're going to say, there's a problem. 164 00:11:31,940 --> 00:11:33,400 So because we have no on the computer. 165 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:35,380 Okay. 166 00:11:36,580 --> 00:11:37,920 Does anybody else have any questions? 167 00:11:38,380 --> 00:11:38,640 Nope. 168 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:40,860 I do. 169 00:11:41,380 --> 00:11:42,140 You're not wrong? 170 00:11:42,380 --> 00:11:42,660 Yeah. 171 00:11:42,980 --> 00:11:43,180 No. 172 00:11:43,180 --> 00:11:54,400 I thought the main reason for the tax budget was to be able to prove to the county that the city needed these tax revenues. 173 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,760 And, for example, we didn't have the expense. 174 00:11:59,980 --> 00:12:11,600 I mean, if it showed that we had more taxes coming in than we did in terms of what our revenue was against our expenditure than the tax budget commission at the county. 175 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,620 Okay, we'll be able to reduce the amount of the billage. 176 00:12:15,620 --> 00:12:16,640 Here give us less money back. 177 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,480 And extra cases. 178 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,620 Never pay off it. 179 00:12:19,620 --> 00:12:22,820 But I thought that that's what this one of the states you were using. 180 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,140 Sure. 181 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,620 To be ready. 182 00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:25,800 Yeah. 183 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:26,680 Yeah. 184 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,380 To be ridiculous. 185 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:28,140 Okay. 186 00:12:28,140 --> 00:12:29,820 This is the general fund. 187 00:12:30,140 --> 00:12:34,540 If I report a total expenditures of zero or a dollar, you know, $1,000. 188 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:41,040 To your point, the budget commission is going to wire you leveling all this money. 189 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,880 and you're spending a hundred dollars. 190 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,260 This is one of the checks and balances that's in the revised code. 191 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:50,940 Sure, but try to make sure that city and township 192 00:12:50,940 --> 00:12:54,080 are not over-taxing their residents, okay? 193 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,960 But that they have a need for the money. 194 00:12:56,380 --> 00:12:56,660 Yep, correct. 195 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,840 I've only seen it once in my entire career 196 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,300 and I was down in Hamilton County. 197 00:13:00,740 --> 00:13:04,060 Dusty Rose did it when he was audited down in Hamilton County. 198 00:13:04,980 --> 00:13:06,540 I don't know, I forget the entity. 199 00:13:06,740 --> 00:13:08,780 I don't know if it was a school or city of whomever. 200 00:13:08,780 --> 00:13:17,860 But in entity had reported huge cast balances and very little expenditures and he did he did exactly that right the budget commission 201 00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:20,520 Chopped the millage 202 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,420 But that's the only example that I'm aware of. I've 203 00:13:25,420 --> 00:13:26,480 But it's a deck in balance 204 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:32,820 No, it's it's not the chances of the county how they're doing with this. Oh, no, I agree with that 205 00:13:32,820 --> 00:13:36,200 But just in terms of the conceptual reason for this 206 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:41,580 Okay, it is an intense budget to show that we need this model. 207 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,560 Yes. Oh, that's what I'm talking about. 208 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:46,540 And obviously, the coming out here should have any questions about need. 209 00:13:47,100 --> 00:13:49,500 We've got all sorts of documents second, 210 00:13:50,020 --> 00:13:52,360 justify the delivery collections for sure. 211 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:54,600 Thank you. 212 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,320 Thank you. 213 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,420 I thought it was an important point. 214 00:13:57,420 --> 00:13:58,780 It is very important. 215 00:13:58,940 --> 00:13:59,420 Thank you. 216 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:00,260 Very important. 217 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:01,620 Do we... 218 00:14:01,620 --> 00:14:02,580 Anybody else have anything? 219 00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:04,800 Can I have a motion to adjourn? 220 00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:07,240 And you are sitting in your finish as well? 221 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:07,800 Yes, sir. 222 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Okay. 223 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:11,740 I have a motion to adjourn the tax budget hearing, 224 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:12,760 so move. 225 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:13,320 Second. 226 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,660 All in favor? 227 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:15,460 Or can I? 228 00:14:15,460 --> 00:14:17,060 I actually get people to do this. 229 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:18,700 Comments one more. 230 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,200 I'm going to go to the theater. 231 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,280 We did not. 232 00:14:22,900 --> 00:14:24,560 So I guess we don't have to. 233 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:31,410 This is not like for a young thing. 234 00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:32,570 Thanks, Bill. 235 00:14:32,650 --> 00:14:34,070 Appreciate it. 236 00:14:34,070 --> 00:14:37,050 And you're right on time, almost, right? 237 00:15:03,980 --> 00:15:04,520 Okay, 238 00:15:07,050 --> 00:15:16,470 welcome to the regular council meeting for July 17th, 2023. May I call this meeting to order? And could we have roll call please, Mr. Ebney? 239 00:15:16,470 --> 00:15:17,130 Here. 240 00:15:17,610 --> 00:15:18,990 Mr. Augustine is absent. 241 00:15:19,770 --> 00:15:20,550 Mrs. Genolo. 242 00:15:21,870 --> 00:15:22,370 Mr. Foder. 243 00:15:22,750 --> 00:15:23,090 President. 244 00:15:23,810 --> 00:15:25,010 Mr. Hack is absent. 245 00:15:26,610 --> 00:15:27,910 Mr. Rodriguez is absent. 246 00:15:28,270 --> 00:15:29,030 And Mrs. Schuke. 247 00:15:29,550 --> 00:15:29,810 Here. 248 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:34,590 May I have a motion to excuse Paul Hack, Nick Augustine, 249 00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:37,250 and Mario Rodriguez from this company. 250 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:40,160 Second. 251 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,180 All in favor? 252 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:43,720 Aye. 253 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Any opposed, okay? 254 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:52,020 We do need to make a motion to adjust our agenda tonight. 255 00:15:53,380 --> 00:15:56,600 The folks for the Special Presentation V of Better Me, 256 00:15:57,140 --> 00:16:02,060 they had a death in their ranks in their family. 257 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,260 And they asked to be removed from the presentation. 258 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:14,260 So could I have a motion to amend the agenda to delete the Special Presentation? 259 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:16,580 So move. Second. 260 00:16:19,070 --> 00:16:21,150 roll call please. 261 00:16:21,530 --> 00:16:22,190 Mrs. Danala. 262 00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:23,830 Yes. Mr. Foder. 263 00:16:24,170 --> 00:16:24,310 Yes. 264 00:16:25,310 --> 00:16:26,650 Mr. Abbey. Yes. 265 00:16:26,950 --> 00:16:27,230 Yes. 266 00:16:28,850 --> 00:16:32,910 May I have a motion to approve the amended agenda as submitted. 267 00:16:36,020 --> 00:16:36,380 Second. 268 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:37,900 Following favor. 269 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:39,120 Aye. 270 00:16:39,620 --> 00:16:39,960 Aye. 271 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:41,160 Okay, done. 272 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:44,280 The invocation will be given by Mr. Foder 273 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,960 and followed by the tragic allegiance. 274 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:49,280 He's rise if you are able, 275 00:16:53,070 --> 00:16:53,870 or may be God, 276 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:57,050 you have set before us to respond to the will of the city. 277 00:16:57,930 --> 00:17:02,750 We ask your guidance and direction that we, the members of Council, 278 00:17:03,170 --> 00:17:06,510 may do what is best for the people to look at. 279 00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:38,570 Okay, I have a motion to approve the minutes from the regular meeting of June 20th, 2023. 280 00:17:38,570 --> 00:17:41,030 So moved. 281 00:17:41,550 --> 00:17:42,110 Second. 282 00:17:42,510 --> 00:17:43,430 All in favor? 283 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:44,710 Aye. 284 00:17:45,710 --> 00:17:45,970 Okay. 285 00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:46,430 All in favor. 286 00:17:46,810 --> 00:17:47,450 Minutes approved. 287 00:17:47,950 --> 00:17:53,850 May I have a motion to approve the minutes from the special meeting of June 26th, 2021. 288 00:17:54,930 --> 00:17:55,490 Second. 289 00:17:56,710 --> 00:17:57,470 All in favor? 290 00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:58,570 Aye. 291 00:17:59,630 --> 00:18:00,630 I have to do this thing. 292 00:18:01,050 --> 00:18:01,190 Yep. 293 00:18:01,470 --> 00:18:02,450 Can we pass on through? 294 00:18:04,190 --> 00:18:04,690 Oh, we did. 295 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:07,680 Okay. 296 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,820 The problem is that we only have three to pass this minute, because I have to abstain. 297 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,460 You didn't actually, even if you weren't here, you don't have to abstain. 298 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,620 If you think that they are active, I looked at them. 299 00:18:22,820 --> 00:18:23,860 You're allowed to go. 300 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,720 Okay, I vote. 301 00:18:24,940 --> 00:18:26,000 Show now we don't have to abstain. 302 00:18:26,580 --> 00:18:27,800 Okay, this is awful. 303 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:28,440 You're perfect. 304 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,240 We will now move to recognize visitors. 305 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,240 We call it upon. Please use the podium. 306 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,280 Clearly, we state your name and address into the microphone. 307 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,160 And limit your comments to three minutes. 308 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,940 Any dialogue must be conducted through me as President of Council. 309 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,980 Although your comments or questions can be directed to Council, 310 00:18:54,260 --> 00:18:55,680 the administration or both. 311 00:18:56,060 --> 00:18:59,340 We have anybody in the audience tonight that wants to speak? 312 00:19:00,460 --> 00:19:01,660 Okay. Thank you. 313 00:19:02,140 --> 00:19:03,660 Do we have any email correspondence? 314 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:04,820 No, none. 315 00:19:05,420 --> 00:19:05,780 Okay. 316 00:19:05,780 --> 00:19:08,860 So we have three committee reports tonight. 317 00:19:09,780 --> 00:19:11,800 We'll start off with BZA. 318 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:16,700 That's why I'm done. 319 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,760 The following items were presented to the Board of Zoning Appeals for 320 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,960 Consideration during their meeting on Thursday, June 22, 2023. 321 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:37,680 An application was submitted by the City of Painsville for a 322 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:45,480 to seven nine acres to the minimum lot area for a multi-family development in the R2 zoning 323 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:54,380 district. A variance is to allow a lot split to create a 1.8923 acre parcel consisting of vacant 324 00:19:54,380 --> 00:20:01,680 land to be used for capital projects. The subject property includes the Sunset Ridge Apartments 325 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,540 and is 4.9083 acres. 326 00:20:06,140 --> 00:20:10,720 The R2 District requires 3,300 square feet per dwelling unit 327 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,200 of minimum lot area for multi-family dwellings. 328 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:22,780 The subject property has 64 units that requires a minimum of 2,200 329 00:20:22,780 --> 00:20:25,840 and 11,200 square feet. 330 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,500 There was a five to zero to approve the variance. 331 00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:37,680 Council in May we call, we are purchasing a piece of property off of Shamrock Boulevard. 332 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:50,700 It was necessary to provide a variance to sunset ridge apartments in order to execute the agreement and close on the property. 333 00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:57,500 And that was the only matter to come before the Board of Zoning Appeals. 334 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,420 And I'd be happy to answer any questions. 335 00:20:59,420 --> 00:21:02,120 Anybody have any questions for that? 336 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:02,420 Nope. 337 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,020 Charter of your committee. 338 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,240 Thank you for coming, Dan. 339 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,420 Any questions? 340 00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:15,560 Good evening, council members. 341 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,100 I'm Jan Clare. 342 00:21:18,940 --> 00:21:23,460 And I have the honor of chairing the sheriff's charter review committee, 343 00:21:23,460 --> 00:21:31,820 of which we are in compliance, have done our due diligence, met, and I want to first of 344 00:21:31,820 --> 00:21:34,460 all thank the members that served with me, Kevin. 345 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:40,560 The dance he was the Vice Chair of this, Kelsey Fisher, Pastor Michael Jackson, 346 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:48,440 Katie Jenkins, Daniel Nicholson, Joan Powell's, Father Seabolinga, and Maribel Young. 347 00:21:48,540 --> 00:21:52,400 It was a good composition of people to be seated at the table. 348 00:21:52,400 --> 00:22:00,920 And it was good dialogue that occurred and were pleased to present to the Board of Elections 349 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,120 five questions to appear on the ballot this November. 350 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,780 They will appear as individual questions. 351 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:18,440 I also want to thank Jim Lyons, this legal knowledge just surpasses all that I've ever dealt with. 352 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:33,480 So if I can do a quick review, the questions are simple questions, the charter is city of 353 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,760 Pantos and good shape. 354 00:22:35,380 --> 00:22:39,540 So it was a matter of just going through and seeing if there are any areas that needed to 355 00:22:39,540 --> 00:22:40,120 be massage. 356 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:46,840 The first charter question that's going to appear is asking that the charter language be changed 357 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,300 in any gender language present, 358 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,320 the charter to a non-gendered face or term, 359 00:22:53,140 --> 00:22:57,260 so that it will literally be rewritten with if passed 360 00:22:57,260 --> 00:23:00,100 with the changes in the charter. 361 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,120 The second question would request that, 362 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,320 instead of three-fourths, both of members, 363 00:23:09,740 --> 00:23:13,780 it would only require a two-thirds vote of council members 364 00:23:13,780 --> 00:23:22,520 to pass whatever it passes. The third charter amendment, I want to commit Samantha, because 365 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:29,880 she has saved the city if it passes, thousands of dollars. She caught this on the last day 366 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,420 of our meeting, and it was part of the budget bill, where it gives you the opportunity instead 367 00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:41,840 of having to do legal advertising in the paper to be able to do it on your website. It will 368 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,300 illuminate the cost of all those legal and so I thank you for your watchful eye and 369 00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:50,180 hopefully the voters will agree that that should be cast. 370 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:58,820 The fourth judgment would allow that if there is less than two applications from 371 00:23:58,820 --> 00:24:05,660 an officer rank in an application, the city manager may extend the request for applications 372 00:24:05,660 --> 00:24:09,160 to other ranks and or external candidates. 373 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,540 So it'll expand the ability for hiring a purpose. 374 00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:21,040 And the last one is any nominating and electing of officers 375 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:26,200 will become effective after the date of approval by the 376 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,900 electors and certified by the Board of Elections. 377 00:24:29,940 --> 00:24:31,940 So there are five simple questions. 378 00:24:32,380 --> 00:24:33,940 The language is very simple. 379 00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:35,680 I think the voters still understand. 380 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:38,020 I look forward to having these appear. 381 00:24:38,260 --> 00:24:40,080 And again, I thank you for the opportunity. 382 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,240 And you want to have an exam that's really additional policy or anything? 383 00:24:54,330 --> 00:24:55,770 Thank you so much. 384 00:24:56,110 --> 00:24:56,330 Thank you. 385 00:24:56,370 --> 00:24:56,750 Thank you. 386 00:24:57,070 --> 00:24:57,430 Appreciate it. 387 00:24:57,470 --> 00:24:58,170 Thank you. 388 00:24:58,950 --> 00:25:00,570 Thank you. 389 00:25:00,570 --> 00:25:03,150 Tony, do you have anything you want to add or... 390 00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:04,490 Well, your name's here. 391 00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:07,200 That's why I'm asking that. 392 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:09,540 Okay. 393 00:25:10,860 --> 00:25:12,680 Next is Parks and Recreation. 394 00:25:13,620 --> 00:25:13,740 Derek? 395 00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:17,180 Parks and Recreation Commission. 396 00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:24,900 We met on July 11th, 2023, our director Michelle Alapuma was in attendance, 397 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:31,880 Councilman Derek Adney, Councilman Paul Hack, Brian Jones, Brianna Tobaras, and Tracy Sullivan. 398 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:40,220 We had a commission, had a discussion on movie night, which is August 26th at Veterans Park at 7pm. 399 00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:43,580 We will also have a movie about Super Mario Brothers. 400 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:52,920 Also, and then we will have story time with the fire department, which is also scheduled for August 30 at Veterans Park. 401 00:25:53,580 --> 00:26:06,720 We are also having a Aquinas Park story walk, and this is a story trail being installed in conjunction with morally library and the Lake County General Health District. 402 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:13,380 Also going into the month of September, we had a chilly cook-off that'll be held at Veterans Park. 403 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:19,120 We have story time with the police in September, 27th at Veterans Park, and then we also 404 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,080 shouldn't forget about our big event, which is fall fast. 405 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:29,600 We also had an update on the commission, on a splash pad installation, and a grand opening 406 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,760 date is still scheduled for Memorial Day weekend, 2024. 407 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,840 Our meeting was adjourned at 505 p.m. that's my report. 408 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,380 Thank you, Derek. 409 00:26:41,780 --> 00:26:44,220 We will now move to legislation. 410 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:49,740 If you wish to comment on legislation, you must request to do so at this time. 411 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,860 Those who make such requests will be called upon after the reading. 412 00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:57,780 Any dialogue must be conducted through me as President and Council. 413 00:26:58,580 --> 00:27:01,340 Although your comments and questions can be directed to Council, 414 00:27:01,340 --> 00:27:07,220 the administration for both, when called upon, please use the podium clearly state your name 415 00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:12,900 and address into the microphone and limit your comments to three minutes. We have five 416 00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:15,840 items tonight. Does anybody want to speak on any of them? 417 00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:21,340 Okay. Item number one is our third 418 00:27:21,340 --> 00:27:27,960 reading, but I think we have to take this off for table. Is that correct? Yes. We're more. All 419 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,240 I'll make the motion to remove this ordinance from the table. 420 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,660 We need a second. 421 00:27:33,660 --> 00:27:34,180 Second. 422 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:35,840 All in. 423 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:37,220 Are we roll call? 424 00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:38,240 Mr. Foder? 425 00:27:39,580 --> 00:27:40,260 Yes. 426 00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:41,200 Mr. Abbey? 427 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:41,900 Yes. 428 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:42,800 Mrs. Denala? 429 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:44,500 This is true. 430 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,180 Ordnance. 431 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,940 Item number one, third reading. 432 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,260 Annornance declaring the improvement to certain parcels of real property within the city 433 00:27:56,260 --> 00:28:07,900 to be a public purpose and exempt from taxation, pursuant of ORC section 5701.41, providing for the collection and deposit of service payments, 434 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,880 specifying the purposes for which those payment services may be expended and authorized in school compensation payments. 435 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:23,520 The legislation before you tonight is on third reading, the developer has determined that the 436 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,740 payment should be monetized in order to finance the overall project and the city and the 437 00:28:29,740 --> 00:28:37,220 schools must enter into an amended, modified school compensation agreement that is scheduled 438 00:28:37,220 --> 00:28:43,620 to be heard or actually has been heard and approved by the Painesville City of Local 439 00:28:43,620 --> 00:28:55,240 school district after June 12th, 2023 meeting, notices have been sent out as required in 440 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:04,240 the terms of both the agreements, the tip agreements, and the modified or amended modified 441 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:12,100 school compensation agreement are exactly the same with the exception now that the developer 442 00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:20,300 will receive service payment. So that is the modification with regards to the 443 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:28,640 tip for Victoria Place. What they will be constructing is a mixed use 444 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:35,340 residential and commercial project consisting of no less than 70 and no more than 445 00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:46,040 residential apartment units approximately 68,750 square feet of commercial space, and approximately 446 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:59,140 5,798 square feet of restaurants space, 20,000 square feet of the commercial space will actually be used. 447 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:11,640 For storage, with the approval of this tiff agreement, it will allow the project to move forward. 448 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:23,320 Does anyone have any questions for a duck? I just want to make sure they'll be giving service payments or they'll be giving paying service payments. 449 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:37,680 what they will do in the way this 41-tiff is set up is they will actually pay their taxes. 450 00:30:39,180 --> 00:30:45,100 Then we have an agreement with them on how that will be distributed back to them. 451 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:52,180 So for the first 15 years they will receive 100% of those payments. 452 00:30:52,180 --> 00:31:05,260 And then, after that, I believe, is it 15 or 20, 15 years, so then in year 20, it drops down to 75% 453 00:31:05,260 --> 00:31:12,980 in 25, it drops down to 50% and year 30, well, that doesn't sound right. 454 00:31:12,980 --> 00:31:21,700 It drops down 25% each year until a year, 30, and then the schools receive the total 455 00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:22,280 payments. 456 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:31,440 We have an agreement with the schools where they will receive in, in, so if there we're 457 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:40,840 receiving 75%, what we're received, the schools in the city will split the 25%, 80% will 458 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,360 of the schools, 20% will go to the city. 459 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:50,660 So as that drops down to 50%, we'll receive more funding in the following five years. 460 00:31:51,460 --> 00:31:58,080 So actually, the developer does receive, I mean, those tith payments back, and that allows 461 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,500 them to pay for the project. 462 00:32:00,260 --> 00:32:06,220 So in the explanation of the ordinance, so as you talk about being able to fund infrastructure, 463 00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:08,880 the city will be able to fund infrastructure. 464 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:15,240 So, if we're giving the money back to the developer, how do we fund infrastructure with that money? 465 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:23,620 In years 15 through 30, as those payments dropped down, we will receive a portion of that funding. 466 00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:24,820 So that is. 467 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,100 We're splitting it with the school. 468 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:34,840 So, as it continues to drop down, our portion and the school's portion tends to get larger 469 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,620 and the developers portion start shrinking. 470 00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:49,580 So what that allows us to do is with the TIF payments that allows us to reinvest in infrastructure 471 00:32:49,580 --> 00:32:53,900 within that district, the TIF is. 472 00:32:54,580 --> 00:33:01,660 So one of the ideas would be 20 or 30 years from now if we had to do streetscape improvements. 473 00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:08,420 We would have funding coming back in if the city wanted to look at the the the square and 474 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:17,260 Replace the streets in the square with brick streets as council has requested that would be an eligible project 475 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,240 for the tiff funds 476 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:27,160 So those are the projects that we will look at that benefit the district in that particular area 477 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,240 And that wouldn't be for a while. 478 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,820 So in the meantime, between that year, 479 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,240 zero or one in 15, how does the city 480 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,000 fund infrastructure improvements? 481 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:38,240 Where do they? 482 00:33:38,260 --> 00:33:40,380 Through the general fund or through grants. 483 00:33:45,150 --> 00:33:47,190 And does the expectation also that, 484 00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:48,950 if there's, after 15 years, 485 00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:51,710 if we need any improvements or up improvements 486 00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:54,750 down in the amphitheater or in that area, 487 00:33:54,790 --> 00:33:56,350 that's also where that might go. 488 00:33:56,450 --> 00:33:56,750 No. 489 00:33:57,250 --> 00:33:59,450 This money needs to stay within 490 00:33:59,450 --> 00:34:01,610 and then it's the specific district. 491 00:34:02,550 --> 00:34:04,130 So for... 492 00:34:04,130 --> 00:34:07,070 Isn't the grand river, well, grand river, 493 00:34:07,210 --> 00:34:08,790 grand river, 494 00:34:10,870 --> 00:34:11,970 the most project, 495 00:34:12,630 --> 00:34:15,730 grand river walk, also has a tip. 496 00:34:16,150 --> 00:34:18,670 So that money will stay in that tip district 497 00:34:18,670 --> 00:34:21,350 and it must be spent in that particular area. 498 00:34:21,650 --> 00:34:22,650 And that's correct, okay. 499 00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:28,890 So we have two tips, and the funding will have to stay 500 00:34:28,890 --> 00:34:34,470 within the district, part of the agreement for the schools to approve the Grand River 501 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:41,290 Walk Tiff District is that we make improvements within recreation park in the future 502 00:34:42,530 --> 00:34:47,410 because they benefit from that as well with the stadium being down there and things of that 503 00:34:47,410 --> 00:34:47,710 nature. 504 00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:52,670 So we can make improvements to mill street, we can make improvements to a lot of more street, 505 00:34:52,970 --> 00:34:57,630 we can also make improvements within the park with those funds. 506 00:34:57,630 --> 00:35:01,190 Thank you. Anybody have anything else? Laura, are you good? 507 00:35:02,990 --> 00:35:06,010 May I have a motion to adopt? 508 00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:07,190 Moved to adopt? 509 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:08,330 Sir. 510 00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:10,870 Well, call please, Mr. Foder? 511 00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:11,470 Yes. 512 00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:13,250 Mr. Abney? 513 00:35:13,650 --> 00:35:13,890 Yes. 514 00:35:14,490 --> 00:35:15,150 This is Denalo? 515 00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:15,770 Yes. 516 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:17,030 This is Shu. 517 00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:17,510 Yes. 518 00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:18,770 Or an inductive? 519 00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:21,830 Item 2. 520 00:35:22,270 --> 00:35:25,690 In order to authorize the city manager of the city of Payne'sville 521 00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:31,090 to enter into an agreement with Lake County Board of Commissioners to participate in the Urban 522 00:35:31,090 --> 00:35:39,530 Entitlement Community Development Block Grant, C.D.B.G. program, and for the utilizations 523 00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:46,490 of funds made available by the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974, as amended 524 00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:47,690 and declared an emergency. 525 00:35:48,590 --> 00:35:59,830 The Lake County Board of Commissioners wasn't formed by HUD that if the county is to retain the urban county status for the next three years that they must 526 00:35:59,830 --> 00:36:10,250 requalify as an urban county. In order to be eligible for the CBBG and home funds, we must provide the attached ordinance stating that the city 527 00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:18,230 to participate. The last time we were required to provide it, the ordinance was in 2020. 528 00:36:18,730 --> 00:36:25,690 So we do this typically every three years when we're notified. The ordinance authorizes 529 00:36:25,690 --> 00:36:31,250 and directs the city manager to enter into a cooperation agreement for the Urban County 530 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:40,110 entitlement program. This would allow us to receive CDBG funding and home funds within 531 00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:47,330 city of Payne's bill. Staff is requesting which was that we approve the ordinance, which 532 00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:58,090 we will not be able to do. So we will probably need to hold a special meeting in order 533 00:36:58,090 --> 00:37:04,250 to approve this by the deadline of July 26, 2023. 534 00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:05,950 and more 535 00:37:08,420 --> 00:37:10,040 questions for Doug? 536 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,120 Yeah, too, but the deadline is July 26th, correct? 537 00:37:15,780 --> 00:37:16,020 Yeah. 538 00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:18,880 So, we're going to ask you to pull up. 539 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,400 Oh, I forgot to send an email. 540 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,000 We're going to ask you to pull out your calendars and pick a day. 541 00:37:25,340 --> 00:37:27,740 I'm supposed to send you an email on Saturday and forgot. 542 00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:29,560 So, no, no. 543 00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:33,520 Any other questions? 544 00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:39,000 So we will move this to 2nd trading. 545 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:46,780 We are now moving to, but don't read it yet, Sam, resolution 3, and it's the adoption 546 00:37:46,780 --> 00:37:52,420 of the tax budget for the city bill, but it says declaring an emergency, we only have four 547 00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:52,880 people. 548 00:37:53,020 --> 00:37:55,500 We need five people for that to go into effect. 549 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,780 We only have four. 550 00:37:57,140 --> 00:37:58,380 So what does that do to you? 551 00:37:58,460 --> 00:38:02,080 It means it has to sit for 30 days, can't happen for 30 days. 552 00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:08,080 Well here's the issue. It has to be filed by the county, by July 20th. 553 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:10,380 By July 29th? 554 00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:10,640 20. 555 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:11,400 20. 556 00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:12,820 Um, 557 00:38:17,740 --> 00:38:19,880 today's the 17th. You don't know what to do. 558 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,620 Yes, sir. 559 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,640 All right. 560 00:38:22,420 --> 00:38:24,200 So my guess would be that we, 561 00:38:24,740 --> 00:38:26,420 that if we were back here. 562 00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:28,640 We still need, even if we just had four and four, 563 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,700 and make it for third reading. 564 00:38:29,980 --> 00:38:30,900 I mean, this is third reading. 565 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,700 What would you do in Iraq and Harplates? We only have four. 566 00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:36,960 I mean, we can pass it. 567 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,300 It just was necessary that it has to go into effect immediately. 568 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,700 Me, was that language that's required by the guidance code? 569 00:38:46,940 --> 00:38:47,440 Do you know that? 570 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,060 It's required to be filed by July 20. 571 00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:57,640 So the county auditor says it has to be adopted by July 15. 572 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:07,920 But obviously Council's meeting tonight in the 17th and both the county and the state of Ohio said no problem and have documentation 573 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:18,080 Then they said just needs to be filed with the county by July 20th and it is a proved however it doesn't go into a fast 574 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:25,480 So I think that it's still the file. We could still file it and we just couldn't get whatever 575 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,520 it, whatever it does, can't happen for 30 days. 576 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:37,600 In other words, if this said some rule change or whatever, but we can approve it, you can 577 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:43,420 tell them we've approved it, it just doesn't go into effect for 30 days, right? 578 00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:48,400 That's how I think that the talent is, sorry, Jim. 579 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,900 No, no, I mean, what Christine said is correct, or his resolution. 580 00:39:54,440 --> 00:40:07,460 It's not going to affect 30 days unless it's passed by emergency provision and you have to hand two thirds of the people both for it and for us by our charter. 581 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,100 That's five people. 582 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,140 We only have four, which is really unusual. 583 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,520 Just stand there and open it. 584 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,740 So they can pass, and you can file, and let the chips fall. 585 00:40:23,140 --> 00:40:23,540 Yes, ma'am. 586 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:25,520 Okay. 587 00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:30,190 Resolute. 588 00:40:30,990 --> 00:40:31,370 Resolute. 589 00:40:31,610 --> 00:40:32,310 Let's read it first. 590 00:40:32,970 --> 00:40:33,190 Resolute. 591 00:40:34,530 --> 00:40:34,870 Resolute. 592 00:40:35,590 --> 00:40:36,270 Resolute. 593 00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:39,510 adopting the 2024 tax budget for the city of Payne'sville, 594 00:40:39,710 --> 00:40:40,970 Ohio, and declaring an emergency. 595 00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:45,150 Okay, what? 596 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:47,670 Well, I just wondered, since we have to meet 597 00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:49,930 for the ordinance number one again, 598 00:40:50,510 --> 00:40:51,930 I don't know where everybody is, 599 00:40:52,070 --> 00:40:54,630 so if we could get together again before the 20th. 600 00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:57,010 Not a chance of that. 601 00:40:57,170 --> 00:40:59,250 Because I think Mr. Hack is still out, 602 00:40:59,350 --> 00:41:00,530 and I think Mr. Augustine. 603 00:41:00,530 --> 00:41:02,390 Mr. Robertson's not back to the 20th. 604 00:41:02,890 --> 00:41:05,750 And I'm not sure when, probably, we'll be back. 605 00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:13,570 We'd have five with Mario, but I don't think it is where it's almost like, and 606 00:41:13,570 --> 00:41:17,750 correct if I'm wrong, we're, we're asking maybe to table this and do it again. 607 00:41:18,030 --> 00:41:24,950 Well, I'm just asking, yeah, table it and do a meeting before the 20th with five of us, or does that not make sense to me? 608 00:41:25,010 --> 00:41:32,090 Well, it makes sense, but we can get the people we can get the county, their documents. 609 00:41:33,290 --> 00:41:38,930 Okay, I'm good, it's fine, I'm just, yeah I'm just going to miss his pushes desk and drop it out. 610 00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:42,050 And run out the door. 611 00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:42,610 Yes, right. 612 00:41:43,570 --> 00:41:44,190 Here we go, bye. 613 00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:45,210 Move to adopt. 614 00:41:46,090 --> 00:41:46,730 I need a second. 615 00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:48,010 A little second. 616 00:41:49,310 --> 00:41:50,110 Roll call please. 617 00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:51,170 Mr. Abbey. 618 00:41:51,890 --> 00:41:52,250 Yes. 619 00:41:52,810 --> 00:41:53,570 Mr. Danala. 620 00:41:54,450 --> 00:41:54,990 Mr. Foder. 621 00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:56,030 Yes. 622 00:41:56,450 --> 00:41:57,090 Mr. Shoe. 623 00:41:57,330 --> 00:41:58,510 Yes, resolution passed. 624 00:41:58,510 --> 00:41:59,110 We 625 00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:05,550 are going to item 4. 626 00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:12,050 A resolution approved in the creation of I.D.I.A.M. Fund, the National Op. 627 00:42:12,510 --> 00:42:12,590 Op. 628 00:42:12,590 --> 00:42:12,810 Op. 629 00:42:13,490 --> 00:42:13,690 Op. 630 00:42:14,830 --> 00:42:15,410 Op. 631 00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:17,270 Op. 632 00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:22,130 law enforcement fund for the 2023 operating budget and declared an emergency. 633 00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:29,120 When Mr. Schupe members council, Mr. Lewis, this is just a requirement by the State 634 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,720 Audres Office to establish funds. 635 00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:35,700 The funds that you see in this first reading of the resolution are grants, so the revenues 636 00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:40,940 are going to have match expenses and, like I said, if I have to establish these funds to account 637 00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:46,020 for these various specific revenue-line items. 638 00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:50,260 And currently, these funds do not exist on the charter accounts. 639 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,120 Any can go through reading? 640 00:42:52,580 --> 00:42:53,240 Yes, ma'am. 641 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,200 Anybody have any questions? 642 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,020 No. 643 00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:58,200 We'll move to second reading. 644 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,320 Item 5. 645 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,340 The Resolution Authorizing Director of the City Manager to enter into a 646 00:43:04,340 --> 00:43:09,260 Development Agreement with the big place LLC for the purposes of development 647 00:43:09,260 --> 00:43:12,560 at 100 South Park Place in the firm in emergency. 648 00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:20,970 The City Administration has been working with the principles of renew partners to develop 649 00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:27,490 a plan for the rehabilitation of the property located at 100 South Park Place, known as Victoria 650 00:43:27,490 --> 00:43:28,110 Place. 651 00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:34,210 The members of renew partners under their affiliate, Vic Place, LLC, acquired the property 652 00:43:34,210 --> 00:43:40,690 in 2019, and have secured funding from several sources to renovate the property as a mixed 653 00:43:40,690 --> 00:43:48,330 development. As I mentioned earlier, including up to 80 market rate rental, rental residential 654 00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:55,310 units, over 68,000 square feet of commercial office space, and approximately 5,800 square 655 00:43:55,310 --> 00:44:01,790 feet of restaurant space. This project is a transformational mixed-use development, or the 656 00:44:01,790 --> 00:44:09,370 downtown, which will serve as a catalyst for future investments. The proposed resolution is 657 00:44:09,370 --> 00:44:14,870 to allow the city manager to enter into a development agreement with the place LLC for the 658 00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:19,590 purpose of completing the redevelopment project as agreed by both parties. 659 00:44:20,690 --> 00:44:27,990 The development is being required to meet the regulations and processes outlined in the city 660 00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:29,590 of Payne'sville zoning code. 661 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:37,730 So briefly, just to give you an overview since you received the development agreement today, 662 00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:47,890 And we apologize we were in the process and negotiating it up up to the middle of the day where we came to an agreement. 663 00:44:48,650 --> 00:44:59,970 Many of the obligations of the city we've already fulfilled, which is creating the D.D. district and rezoning that portion of the city. 664 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,460 The property, we will still need to enter into a parking agreement with them, which is addressed. 665 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:20,780 It also accounts for the tiff agreement, which was approved tonight and outlines how the money will be distributed in the tiff agreement. 666 00:45:20,780 --> 00:45:49,880 But also talks about infrastructure and easements and they will require some easements for balconies for outdoor landscaping and for the entryway to the city or to the building which is located out front that will be part of their contribution to the streetscape project. 667 00:45:52,240 --> 00:46:08,880 One of the things that we will be doing and we've committed to is providing capital funds specifically for the Streetscape improvements as well as a transformer if necessary for the electric department. 668 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:20,600 Again, I talked about the parking agreement and we will system in recruiting retail or restaurants to go into the commercial space. 669 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:34,500 The developers, obligations, are to participate in the rezoning of the downtown district, which would allow them to move forward with the mixed use development. 670 00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:43,120 put together a concept plan in our textural plans that allow us to identify specifically what 671 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,260 they are doing within the building. 672 00:46:47,020 --> 00:46:56,860 That has been done and they have a plan as we stated that we have reviewed with them 673 00:46:56,860 --> 00:47:03,700 currently at this time, it's a draft, but they will be bringing a final plan to us. 674 00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:17,560 There is a restriction on the use of the property with regards to the number of residential units and the amount of storage that they can have within the building. 675 00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:33,600 We did require a deed restriction on the property as far as the infrastructure is concerned and outlines that they are responsible for getting all the utilities to the building. 676 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:39,360 and that they will cooperate with the city and moving forward with the rezoning. 677 00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:47,900 They are also required to provide us with a 30-year performa so that we can make sure that 678 00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:57,740 the project is successful and we recognize that they have received two grants for the project, 679 00:47:57,740 --> 00:48:27,660 Both through the Ohio Department of Development, one is for the jobs of Ohio vibrant community grant in the amount of a million dollars for office space, and the other is the teamhood or transportation, transformational mixed use development funding, which will provide them funding to move forward with the project. 680 00:48:27,740 --> 00:48:35,920 And then we outline what is required as far as legislative action. 681 00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:39,680 So we have met with the developer. 682 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:50,160 We finalize the agreement today and we're asking that council approve this. 683 00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:55,460 And again, I believe that they need the development agreement approved. 684 00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,800 before the end of this month so that they can proceed with their financing, 685 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:05,720 but this 686 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:07,100 will have to go to the second rating. 687 00:49:13,050 --> 00:49:17,690 So the main quantification place as well, I mean obviously they've got the team up and they've 688 00:49:17,690 --> 00:49:22,070 got all those other grants and so on and so forth, it's the development agreement that could 689 00:49:22,070 --> 00:49:22,950 hold up their funding. 690 00:49:26,070 --> 00:49:26,750 I believe so. 691 00:49:28,130 --> 00:49:28,450 Yes. 692 00:49:29,310 --> 00:49:35,010 Well, guys, they need a development and, yes, they need a development and agreement in place. 693 00:49:36,910 --> 00:49:43,070 All right, so as I said, we're going to need to gain cut our calendars, but there's only four of us, but we'll figure it out. 694 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,680 Anybody have any questions or anything? 695 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,620 No, I don't have them. 696 00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:54,240 So I'm assuming you looked at this, Jim, right? 697 00:49:55,100 --> 00:50:01,240 And when you look at this, I read it, and I feel like peppermint pay. 698 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,100 So I want to know, is there anything in here that I should question? 699 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,180 That you said, I don't really like it, but okay, I'm going to let it go through it. 700 00:50:18,130 --> 00:50:19,190 It's got to go the next reading. 701 00:50:19,590 --> 00:50:21,310 So I don't have to, you don't have to answer me now. 702 00:50:21,470 --> 00:50:27,690 But all I'm saying is, when I get sent handed, something to me, the night of, 703 00:50:27,690 --> 00:50:29,830 Yeah, that's troublesome, so. 704 00:50:29,870 --> 00:50:31,550 Well, I can save a couple of things. 705 00:50:32,590 --> 00:50:35,590 One, the city, prior to my time, 706 00:50:35,650 --> 00:50:38,170 developed a format for the development agreement, 707 00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:43,270 and this development agreement, is in the same format 708 00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:45,070 as the Marouce one was. 709 00:50:45,250 --> 00:50:45,530 OK. 710 00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:49,510 I believe it's in the same format as the Chase Bank one, four, 711 00:50:49,590 --> 00:50:55,330 and four is the key to these things. 712 00:50:55,330 --> 00:51:02,330 Obviously, we do have responsibilities under beer, and I'm not concerned about our responsibilities. 713 00:51:02,910 --> 00:51:12,330 Those are pretty standard that we've done in Maros, and also with the Chase Bank building. 714 00:51:13,970 --> 00:51:21,690 I always think that what the requirements are for the developer to do are very important. 715 00:51:21,690 --> 00:51:49,750 And I know that there was the Zoom meeting today with myself, Mr. Lewis, Susan, I think Sarah was there and read a nickname and we went through this particular document and we made our comments and I think, you know, there are other things could be put in, 716 00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:59,430 But really, that's kind of a consult administrative matter in terms of if you want additional protections for the city. 717 00:52:01,130 --> 00:52:08,650 So, the per example, there's no random that goes with this, but there are any development. 718 00:52:08,770 --> 00:52:14,250 We'll be subject to our current architectural process. 719 00:52:14,450 --> 00:52:18,450 Okay, and also our zoning code because it's in the downtown development district. 720 00:52:18,450 --> 00:52:25,430 I think we certainly know what that big huge structure looks like on the outside, what it's 721 00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:28,710 going to completely look like after it's done. 722 00:52:29,170 --> 00:52:31,430 I don't think that we're 100% sure. 723 00:52:31,870 --> 00:52:36,390 I think it's pretty somewhat fluid at this time. 724 00:52:36,670 --> 00:52:38,890 Is that correct, but it's somewhat fluid. 725 00:52:38,890 --> 00:52:41,170 Not completely fluid, but somewhat fluid. 726 00:52:45,370 --> 00:53:00,210 But it seems like all of these projects come up down to the last minute where we need to have things passed in order to get funding so that we can meet deadlines and one of the key deadlines in this particular project. 727 00:53:00,210 --> 00:53:23,550 It is that they have to start work by a certain date because of the team like Grant, which is everyone will recall is the state of Ohio, a transformational mixed use development grant, where millions of dollars have been allocated not just to this project, but three different projects in the city, and I think people are trying to make sure that they don't lose those. 728 00:53:23,550 --> 00:53:31,590 I mean, you can disagree with different items in any agreement, but I don't have, I didn't 729 00:53:31,590 --> 00:53:36,250 think when we were reviewing it, but there was anything shocking, or that we were taking 730 00:53:36,250 --> 00:53:40,550 on new responsibilities that we haven't taken on in the other developments. 731 00:53:41,110 --> 00:53:47,530 There's this is different than Marus in the sense that we gave the property, the property, 732 00:53:47,530 --> 00:54:07,310 But we have a reversing area clause in there that we would be able to get the proper back once we, if they don't put a million dollars in, if I think sometime this year, okay, so they have to get going on in order to meet that so that we know that there is a new development. 733 00:54:07,310 --> 00:54:10,430 If you're comfortable, I'm comfortable. 734 00:54:12,350 --> 00:54:14,010 Well, everybody, y'all always want more. 735 00:54:14,750 --> 00:54:18,310 But that seems to be, you know, with the state of, 736 00:54:19,570 --> 00:54:20,910 I don't know, about the state of the area, 737 00:54:21,410 --> 00:54:25,050 with the city, can try to get out of this project 738 00:54:25,050 --> 00:54:29,250 in terms of the validity of it in terms of what they're doing. 739 00:54:29,690 --> 00:54:33,130 There are some other agreements that are called for in there 740 00:54:33,130 --> 00:54:36,910 in terms of some use of the right away that still have to be 741 00:54:36,910 --> 00:54:46,090 negotiated, but they have to be, and I was comfortable with it, so it was the short answer. 742 00:54:46,270 --> 00:54:49,730 If you want to log in, I do not want to log in, I do not want to log in, I do not want to log in. 743 00:54:50,310 --> 00:54:59,550 So, I've capitalized now with the seat, so this was on my table tonight, so I didn't have a chance to bring me to the meetings at the end. 744 00:55:00,170 --> 00:55:03,770 And so I would just suggest that when we have situations like this, 745 00:55:03,770 --> 00:55:09,710 And I hear that there are deadlines from the grants and things like that that the developers 746 00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:11,450 and we are trying to meet. 747 00:55:11,630 --> 00:55:16,930 However, we knew that those deadlines and this is when they got the grant in the first place. 748 00:55:17,070 --> 00:55:20,170 So I just still don't quite understand why it's a Russian. 749 00:55:20,190 --> 00:55:25,690 It does make you feel a little bit hesitant to go ahead and pass it on the first reading. 750 00:55:25,870 --> 00:55:26,970 Because you haven't even read it. 751 00:55:27,730 --> 00:55:30,010 And I'd be happy to answer the questions for you. 752 00:55:30,010 --> 00:55:54,130 The reason I hear receiving that tonight is because we're reliant on the developers to provide us with the agreement, and as a result, we have then, they were provided this a long time ago, we have worked with them, 753 00:55:54,130 --> 00:56:02,290 I mean, and continue to work with them to address certain areas within the agreement. 754 00:56:03,470 --> 00:56:07,430 And it requires their timely response to us. 755 00:56:08,430 --> 00:56:13,810 Today we were able to finalize it, and that's why you're receiving it at this time. 756 00:56:14,350 --> 00:56:18,650 They have had the agreement for quite a bit of time. 757 00:56:18,650 --> 00:56:24,410 And so we're reliant on them to provide comments back to us. 758 00:56:24,850 --> 00:56:31,010 We provide them with our counselor comments and then they have to come to an agreement. 759 00:56:31,390 --> 00:56:38,790 So about three o'clock today, we got agreement from both parties as to what would be included in the agreement. 760 00:56:39,710 --> 00:56:42,290 So then my next question is a procedural question. 761 00:56:42,290 --> 00:56:49,190 When these things occur to us, because, again, it would be sensible for council to feel a bit 762 00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:53,050 and prehensive about going ahead and passing something like this on the first reading. 763 00:56:53,610 --> 00:56:57,410 That makes sense, especially because we cannot even have time to read it. 764 00:56:57,930 --> 00:57:06,650 Are we able to take a recess to move into reading something thoroughly through as a council and then come back to our meeting? 765 00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:11,230 you will have second reading for, I mean, this will have a second reading. 766 00:57:11,550 --> 00:57:14,310 Only because one member of a household is not here tonight. 767 00:57:14,570 --> 00:57:16,270 Because we're short on council members. 768 00:57:16,610 --> 00:57:18,650 Had we not been short on council members tonight, 769 00:57:19,110 --> 00:57:20,430 we would not have a second reading. 770 00:57:20,450 --> 00:57:24,910 In the future, hopefully we will get you the agreements much sooner as we have 771 00:57:24,910 --> 00:57:30,090 with the Marus agreement and with the Chase Bank agreement. 772 00:57:30,550 --> 00:57:32,990 Okay, but what I want to know is in these circumstances, 773 00:57:33,170 --> 00:57:34,570 and I'm not blaming the situation. 774 00:57:34,570 --> 00:57:42,010 and we're blaming you, can Council take a recess so that we can read these and come back to 775 00:57:42,010 --> 00:57:49,710 session. Is that procedurally appropriate? Absolutely. Yes. Council. So we have to make a motion to go 776 00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:52,870 into recess to give people time to read it. 777 00:57:56,130 --> 00:57:59,070 When people are satisfied, they can come back into 778 00:57:59,070 --> 00:58:05,330 hold in session and come closer to resume the council meeting, but yes, that's that's 779 00:58:05,330 --> 00:58:10,970 that the council meeting takes three hours because there's an hour recess, then that's 780 00:58:10,970 --> 00:58:11,390 like that. 781 00:58:11,390 --> 00:58:12,990 Okay, yeah, I just wanted to see. 782 00:58:13,610 --> 00:58:19,190 Just to piggyback for a notice that I wouldn't feel more comfortable that we wouldn't 783 00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:24,430 have another meeting due to the fact that even if we went in the other room when we 784 00:58:24,430 --> 00:58:26,970 to talk to 45 minutes or an hour. 785 00:58:27,730 --> 00:58:29,550 You still, you don't know what you don't know, 786 00:58:29,930 --> 00:58:33,430 and if we're going to be changing the face or part of, 787 00:58:34,010 --> 00:58:35,430 this is around the center, 788 00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:38,570 we want to make sure we're doing it, right? 789 00:58:39,610 --> 00:58:42,870 And so, to give it some time to personally 790 00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:45,670 and to think about it and then come back, 791 00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:47,110 I would not go comfortable. 792 00:58:48,690 --> 00:58:49,930 I don't just agree. 793 00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:53,210 I would say, no, let's talk to that. 794 00:58:53,210 --> 00:58:55,970 we need to schedule other meeting in the next fair period. 795 00:58:56,310 --> 00:58:57,530 And I don't disagree with that either. 796 00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:59,610 And I think it would matter what, I think it would 797 00:58:59,610 --> 00:59:02,350 depend on what other matter is before us. 798 00:59:02,370 --> 00:59:04,570 In this matter, I don't disagree with you. 799 00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:08,370 And then I guess if one member of Council requested the recess, 800 00:59:08,570 --> 00:59:10,130 another member of Council would say, 801 00:59:10,410 --> 00:59:12,030 and now I'd rather do a second reading 802 00:59:12,030 --> 00:59:13,650 and let's have a special council meeting. 803 00:59:13,790 --> 00:59:16,290 But you know, it would be a second consensus 804 00:59:16,290 --> 00:59:17,510 of what Council wants to do. 805 00:59:18,650 --> 00:59:20,850 All right, so this is going to go two second reading. 806 00:59:20,850 --> 00:59:25,030 And the 2016 is the do-do-do, but I forgot about it. 807 00:59:25,850 --> 00:59:30,410 They are looking at refining as soon by the end of the month. 808 00:59:31,010 --> 00:59:35,650 OK, so it's not the 2016, it's the 31st. 809 00:59:36,670 --> 00:59:38,190 All right, well, secretary, 810 00:59:40,490 --> 00:59:43,790 I'm finished business. 811 00:59:44,070 --> 00:59:44,490 None. 812 00:59:45,530 --> 00:59:46,210 New business. 813 00:59:46,430 --> 00:59:48,870 Changing counsel meetings start time. 814 00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:59,970 This is something that Jim and I kind of, since plenty of commission and BDA. 815 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,240 We are now seven. We kind of wondered how council felt, all of the only four of us. We have to 816 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:10,220 probably take that too, but how people would feel about moving our meeting to seven. So, 817 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,940 we'd be in conjunction with the ECA and with plan. 818 01:00:17,220 --> 01:00:20,040 Jim, do you have anything? Jim. 819 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:30,300 Right. And I think about moving it up a half hour, I know that it's not only council, but it's also all 820 01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:38,420 people sitting out in the black queues that our department has and systems to be 821 01:00:38,420 --> 01:00:43,540 manager and so forth, you know, they're starting their day so far so retired and we 822 01:00:43,540 --> 01:00:47,020 may not be starting quite as early as they are, but you know, if they're starting 823 01:00:47,020 --> 01:00:52,700 at seven or eight and then it's just that another half hour through their day and 824 01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:58,180 then it's expected then to come back the next day and be ready to go, and I think it 825 01:00:58,180 --> 01:01:05,760 more uniformed in terms of if we could get commissions and committees and things like that 826 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:11,320 to have a uniform part-time so the people aren't saying is that seven or seven thirty or 827 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:12,540 six thirty or whatever. 828 01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:15,040 So, did you have anything you want to add? 829 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:16,220 No? 830 01:01:16,580 --> 01:01:17,720 Would you like to get seven? 831 01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:20,740 I mean, I guess you got this whole administration here. 832 01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:24,040 Everybody in the audience said, would like it at seven, do this? 833 01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:24,440 Thank you. 834 01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:26,140 Thank you. 835 01:01:26,140 --> 01:01:26,680 Thank you. 836 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:45,940 We've done this before, this has come up before Council will pour, and there have been council members that have not wanted to start earlier because of their work schedules, and I know that Paul was one of the big ones because of the technical work he does. 837 01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:51,500 So I would feel more comfortable not making any kind of, you know, 838 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,300 without the other council members here. 839 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,220 So if we could table this, then I'll go for all business next time. 840 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:03,820 Well, I think that what the plan is to bring up and start having discussions about it, 841 01:02:03,820 --> 01:02:08,180 and specifically like you said, or you all set with people need to be at the table to 842 01:02:08,180 --> 01:02:09,400 when we move forward. 843 01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:15,120 I do feel we already have a few council members that have a hard time getting here at 7-3rd 844 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:15,740 on time. 845 01:02:16,220 --> 01:02:21,480 So that's just a feeling I don't have any documentation of that, but a lot of times people 846 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,080 or a bit late from work and stuff like that. 847 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:25,600 So it'll have to get comfortable. 848 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,800 Yeah, we'll put it out of this and unfinished business. 849 01:02:27,860 --> 01:02:28,080 Right. 850 01:02:30,620 --> 01:02:39,620 We tried to start school at 7.30 and people had a hard time making it. 851 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,440 Well, then we said, let's start the report today. 852 01:02:42,180 --> 01:02:43,560 People had a hard time making it. 853 01:02:43,940 --> 01:02:46,820 We said, OK, let's make it eight o'clock. 854 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,680 Low and behold, people still had a problem doing it in eight o'clock. 855 01:02:52,700 --> 01:02:59,700 So I guess I took her back to Laurie's custom and there's only four of us, I would much rather do this. 856 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,300 And we could even talk about that in the work session. 857 01:03:03,460 --> 01:03:05,740 So this is not something that has to be legislative, right? 858 01:03:05,860 --> 01:03:07,180 We could just do it. 859 01:03:07,620 --> 01:03:10,900 All right, so we'll just sort of, I don't want to officially table it, 860 01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:13,720 but we'll put it under unfinished business for the next time. 861 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:18,540 We have no any any pretty everything else that they want to say about that for you. 862 01:03:19,540 --> 01:03:20,100 Well, okay. 863 01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:24,900 The Department of Presentation is none administrative reports. 864 01:03:25,220 --> 01:03:25,980 Law director. 865 01:03:26,940 --> 01:03:29,620 Well, I would like to say a few things today. 866 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:30,320 Thank you. 867 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,540 I think you had as two minutes. 868 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:38,700 First, I would like to thank Jean Clare for the very nice comments that she made. 869 01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:44,020 I, of course, thought that she and everybody on the Charter of Youth Commission would 870 01:03:44,020 --> 01:03:52,320 diligent and had the best interests of the city and heart and all volunteers, all looking 871 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:57,940 at things and all following the rules, trying to make the city a better place and so I salute 872 01:03:57,940 --> 01:04:03,780 to salute them and I appreciate my ability to be around them. 873 01:04:03,780 --> 01:04:12,440 Number two is I would like to declare it would tend every week and three that's all 874 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:23,760 thank you so much Jim I appreciate it oh yes just kind of a brief up well not a brief update 875 01:04:25,940 --> 01:04:33,500 we stuff met with the new president of Lake Erie College Jennifer Schoer we did 876 01:04:33,500 --> 01:04:36,560 to discuss her plans for the future. 877 01:04:36,980 --> 01:04:40,340 It was very interested in meeting with her. 878 01:04:40,340 --> 01:04:47,520 I think she brings a different perspective to like your college. 879 01:04:49,140 --> 01:04:54,660 Jen had, Jennifer had previously worked as a fundraiser 880 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,660 when she was brought on. 881 01:04:57,940 --> 01:05:01,760 And now that she's president, they're looking 882 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:07,380 at different types of programs that they can offer, how they can work with the city a little 883 01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:15,340 bit closer. So it was something that we discussed a variety of things where we may be able 884 01:05:15,340 --> 01:05:27,720 to work together. So hopefully that will come about. I just want to briefly go into the 4th 885 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:36,020 July and fireworks. I know throughout the city, many people were lighting off fireworks. 886 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:44,080 Council that, or the city of Painesville has the ability to regulate fireworks even though 887 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:55,460 they are approved or legal in the state. City Council has chosen to prohibit fireworks. 888 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:04,720 and the police department was out and foreseen we did have some additional people on staff 889 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:14,120 to enforce the firework, ban, however I think if it was, if your neighborhood was like mine, 890 01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:19,260 just about every house on the street was shooting off fire, I shouldn't say that. 891 01:06:19,260 --> 01:06:23,200 I mean, probably four or five different houses on the street 892 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,500 were shooting off fireworks. 893 01:06:26,220 --> 01:06:30,320 So I just want to remind everybody that currently 894 01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:37,420 in the city of Payne'sville, there is a ban on fireworks. 895 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,220 And I think the police department, I want to congratulate 896 01:06:42,220 --> 01:06:46,040 police department, while they were not responding, 897 01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:48,720 while they were responding to emergency calls, 898 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,740 they were also responding to fireworks calls. 899 01:06:52,580 --> 01:06:56,740 So they were responding as quickly as they possibly could 900 01:06:56,740 --> 01:07:02,900 to any reports by residents of fireworks being shot off. 901 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,500 One of the things that they do have to do, 902 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,400 in order to issue a citation, 903 01:07:09,060 --> 01:07:12,440 is they actually have to see the individual shooting off the fireworks. 904 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,880 So in some cases, that makes it difficult 905 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:23,680 because when they do show up, they have finished shooting off fireworks or the individual is 906 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:34,160 not present who start who shot off the fireworks. But if people do have complaints, please 907 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:44,980 call it in to dispatch and we will respond to those complaints. As far as the projects in the 908 01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:57,360 When we met with Jennifer Schoer, we talked about the Chase Bank building and the student housing project. 909 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:04,940 They are meeting with renew partners and they fully expect to move in sometime in August. 910 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:17,440 So, that project seems to be moving forward and they're hoping that the first two floors 911 01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:24,000 will be completed by August so that students can move in to the dormitory. 912 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:31,300 Then they'll complete, then they'll work, floors three through five and complete those throughout 913 01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:38,760 year. And as they complete those floors, more students will move into the student housing 914 01:08:39,620 --> 01:08:47,620 at the Chase Bank building. We talked about Victoria Place. You approve the tip tonight 915 01:08:48,460 --> 01:08:57,480 and will enter into a development agreement with Victor Place or Renew Partners so that they 916 01:08:57,480 --> 01:09:05,040 can move forward with that project, again, they're moving forward with their financing so 917 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:09,440 that they can begin the project sometime this year. 918 01:09:10,180 --> 01:09:18,000 As far as the Grand River Walk project, we have talked with Marus, they anticipate starting 919 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:25,420 in September, they will be installing utilities at the site and they will also be looking 920 01:09:25,420 --> 01:09:32,080 at building the parking garage this year, so they want to have the foundation in and the parking 921 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:38,840 garage in underneath the building and then they'll complete it sometime next year, the actual 922 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:48,500 structure for the building. The other project that continues to move forward is Zab's 923 01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:57,260 custard and mustard. They have completed some of the concrete work. We have actually put 924 01:09:57,260 --> 01:10:05,220 in some of the sidewalks on that project. We are getting ready to do the landscaping in the 925 01:10:05,220 --> 01:10:13,460 right of way and a new entry sign will go up welcoming people into the city. So that project 926 01:10:13,460 --> 01:10:22,700 continues to move forward. They're hoping to have a grand opening next year. Derek had talked 927 01:10:22,700 --> 01:10:31,060 about the splash park moving forward. So that's on schedule for this year. One other 928 01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:40,960 notification, we did receive, we received a $500,000 grant from the Oda Hyod Department of 929 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:47,500 resources, part of the grant was to fund the amphitheater. 930 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,600 And what we did was we received 931 01:10:51,600 --> 01:11:00,780 a revised quote for the amphitheater to my surprise it came back $200,000 less than what the 932 01:11:00,780 --> 01:11:09,220 original quote was. So we have worked with the Ohio Department of Natural Resources to get approval 933 01:11:09,220 --> 01:11:17,560 to purchase it this year and that means that we would actually purchase the structure and purchase 934 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:27,460 the plans to install the amphitheater which will save us approximately $200,000 and actually 935 01:11:27,460 --> 01:11:33,920 we found out that going through source well we received another 8% discount so we received an 936 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,680 additional 8% off of that. 937 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:43,020 So we will be moving forward with the participity amphitheater 938 01:11:43,020 --> 01:11:48,800 this year, what we'll do is we will put it in storage until we're 939 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,920 ready to actually move forward with the project. 940 01:11:52,340 --> 01:11:55,160 And it's fortunate that we just have to happen to have a building 941 01:11:55,820 --> 01:11:59,380 over on Chester Street that we can actually store it in. 942 01:11:59,380 --> 01:12:00,360 So, 943 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,500 that works out to our benefits. 944 01:12:06,860 --> 01:12:12,060 Also, I just want to thank the Charter Review Committee for their work. 945 01:12:13,180 --> 01:12:17,800 And thank PCIC, if you attended Party in the Park this weekend, 946 01:12:18,340 --> 01:12:20,260 it was a very nice event. 947 01:12:20,260 --> 01:12:23,020 And I was down there quite a bit with my kids. 948 01:12:23,740 --> 01:12:25,420 So, they enjoyed the play zone. 949 01:12:25,660 --> 01:12:26,700 And that's all I have. 950 01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:33,500 So we've got to do another coupon for that, you know, 951 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,560 you know, a person just going to need to keep it for it. 952 01:12:35,820 --> 01:12:36,500 Last but not the idea. 953 01:12:38,060 --> 01:12:43,020 Okay, so now we will do, of course, correspondents. 954 01:12:43,820 --> 01:12:44,320 Corrective council. 955 01:12:45,180 --> 01:12:49,060 The next trigger council meeting will be held on Monday, August 21st, 956 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,380 at 730. 957 01:12:51,420 --> 01:12:54,200 We are still doing the car cruises on Fridays. 958 01:12:54,200 --> 01:13:02,560 that's told September 15, the Paynsville Farmers Market is until September 23rd on Thursday, 959 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:09,310 or 21st on Thursdays. We're having still the concerts in the park until August 9th. 960 01:13:10,940 --> 01:13:18,380 And the downtown Paynsville Organization Farm Detail is Wednesday, July 19th at Lake Eary College. 961 01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:24,620 I believe today was the last day of the tickets and we are also having our fair pre-soon. 962 01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:31,880 They coming fair is the 25th through the 3rd and there's a parade on Tuesday to 25th at 6 p.m. 963 01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:38,640 We have National Night Out in Painesville Square which is Tuesday August 1st from 6 to 8 p.m. 964 01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:45,500 We have back to school bash and Harvey High School. We'll be Saturday August 5th from 9 to 2 p.m. 965 01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:50,720 and meet the Raiders is what Wednesday, August 9th at 6pm, and that's all we have. 966 01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:51,740 Thank you. 967 01:13:52,620 --> 01:13:54,460 Closing comments member of Councillor Lori. 968 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,780 So summer summer, summer, summer, summer. 969 01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:05,240 So what do I want to bring up to council today is that I've been corresponding with a landlord 970 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:15,360 who would like council to review ordinance number 925.15 that addresses the owners of property. 971 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:21,780 guaranteeing, I'm sorry, I can't see if my glasses aren't that great, the payment of charges 972 01:14:21,780 --> 01:14:30,040 for utilities incurred by a consumer, as well as procedures that they can take to avoid 973 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:34,500 that responsibility, which really entails writing a letter to a pretty much thing that they 974 01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:36,280 are going to be responsible for. 975 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:44,800 He's asking us to review it because he does, he thinks it's an overreach on conscious parts 976 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,680 through all of our activities specifically and not just water. 977 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,120 I know he's talked with our finance director. 978 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,400 I know he's talked to Mr. Lines. 979 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,760 I know Mr. Lewis and him have talked. 980 01:14:55,900 --> 01:14:59,360 I've talked to Mr. Lewis back and forth in emails and he's responded. 981 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:13,860 Quickly and respectfully, to me about the whole matter, I have reiterated to him what I have been understood. What I understand and being still not really, completely satisfied with it. 982 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:22,460 So I would like him to have opportunity to present before council, his thoughts and opinions, and then ask him to comment, he's not going to be available to September. 983 01:15:22,460 --> 01:15:28,060 So what I'm basically asking tonight just simply is that can we put this on new business 984 01:15:28,060 --> 01:15:33,420 for September, or in December 9th, if I won five, he can come in and speak. 985 01:15:33,660 --> 01:15:34,800 Then we can maybe discuss it. 986 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,820 This was, you know, I'm actually going to get you guys the correspondents from him 987 01:15:38,820 --> 01:15:43,740 and between me and Mr. Lewis and stuff like that to review on your own time. 988 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,180 Just to see, and I look at the ordinance. 989 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:50,020 It is a rather old ordinance in the, 990 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:59,660 And so it may be something we want to review, and also, he's not just interested in our 991 01:15:59,660 --> 01:16:04,540 audience, but our procedures and enforcing the ordinance and how we go about it. 992 01:16:05,140 --> 01:16:09,580 And that's, I don't want to too much into that detail tonight's staff that comes from 993 01:16:09,580 --> 01:16:16,280 members who put out new differences to decide if you want to go and you work there with them. 994 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:17,980 September, first meeting in September. 995 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,920 So, okay, what's your company, we can talk later. 996 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:25,040 Oh, yeah. 997 01:16:25,580 --> 01:16:26,180 Just, yeah. 998 01:16:26,580 --> 01:16:27,140 Just my comment. 999 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:34,960 And again, the thank you, too, obviously, to our Twitter review committee and the PCIC, 1000 01:16:35,220 --> 01:16:36,980 and I didn't get a chance to get down there. 1001 01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:43,600 I wasn't able to be there as much as I usually am, I wasn't like me, but it was a bit 1002 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,960 of a development, and I always did a good event, and it was great to see the vendors out and 1003 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:51,100 I always fund the run into residents that haven't seen for a while, so 1004 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,260 Derek. 1005 01:16:55,560 --> 01:17:01,280 I want to mimic the charter review, the resident's third-nerd tennis tonight, and I was 1006 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,560 at part in the park every day, down there doing a set-up in the trash. 1007 01:17:05,340 --> 01:17:09,300 And we had an incident happen on Saturday, which, and I want to speak about our police officers. 1008 01:17:09,540 --> 01:17:13,900 I would post officer Bailey, I said, officer Bailey, we have people blocking our garbage cans, 1009 01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:16,600 we have carts backed up, I can't get to trash, nowhere. 1010 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:21,660 We made an announcement on the microphone, about people moving their cars. 1011 01:17:22,380 --> 01:17:26,520 Well, I guess one of the cars there was a language barrier and they did not understand our illness. 1012 01:17:27,580 --> 01:17:33,320 So at that point in time, this car stayed there for about an hour or about half an hour, so 45 minutes. 1013 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:40,480 Officer Bailey and him had a technology where they were able to bring up the license plate and find a person's phone number. 1014 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,760 And then once we found the number, we found a kid in the crowd to translate forced to 1015 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,040 have her come and move her car. 1016 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,120 But I thought it was the greatest thing and after we got done, he said, he thanked me 1017 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:55,220 because we passed the legislation that did them the money to do it. 1018 01:17:55,220 --> 01:17:59,600 And he says every three years, you know, every technology changes every years, but I was quite 1019 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:05,140 impressed in that moment as to how they solved my problem and put over-part and heard 1020 01:18:05,140 --> 01:18:06,280 there's a lot of different problems. 1021 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:13,320 But that one did stay with me as to how they're using the technology to solve problems and things like that and we're very diversified community. 1022 01:18:13,660 --> 01:18:18,020 But I want to thank everyone who attended and I also thank the COP for helping me out with that situation. 1023 01:18:18,700 --> 01:18:19,260 Thank you. 1024 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:19,900 Thanks, Terry. 1025 01:18:20,700 --> 01:18:20,960 Jim? 1026 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:33,300 Obviously, I didn't make the last minute for trying to review, but thank you to the work that you did and the other administrators and people from the city. 1027 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:45,920 You know, in the last couple weeks, our clerk recounts those methods received emails from residents or people indicating that they have a problem or concern. 1028 01:18:47,180 --> 01:18:48,120 Here's my advice. 1029 01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:50,680 Get to know your ward person. 1030 01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:54,740 You have to look up some methods email or the email her. 1031 01:18:55,060 --> 01:18:58,100 So you have to go through the ward people to get there. 1032 01:18:58,460 --> 01:19:02,540 For some reason, you don't think the ward person is going to help you. 1033 01:19:02,540 --> 01:19:27,200 There's three act large individuals, and I'm talking about the position, not the act of individual, sitting right here, before lowering fabric and myself, that instead of trying to, because Samantha is just going to send it out to the seven of us, and the problem with that, if you ask everybody, you're probably not going to get an answer. 1034 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:34,160 be specific, make it familiar. The same thing goes with the fireworks. Get to know the people 1035 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:41,640 your name for it. And if you have a dog or a pet or a family member, have the conversation, 1036 01:19:42,460 --> 01:19:48,260 the difference between a city and a community is a people who are able to talk about it. 1037 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:54,940 And so for the people that are watching, pick up the phone, write a new mail, or if it's your neighbor, 1038 01:19:54,940 --> 01:19:58,280 or have a conversation with them, see if they can work things up. 1039 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:00,100 That's all I have. 1040 01:20:00,780 --> 01:20:01,480 Thanks, Jim. 1041 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,720 I also would like to thank the Charter of Duke Committee. 1042 01:20:05,220 --> 01:20:05,880 I appreciate it. 1043 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:06,560 That's wonderful. 1044 01:20:07,460 --> 01:20:08,320 Also, too. 1045 01:20:09,140 --> 01:20:11,760 There is a special election out there, August 8th, 1046 01:20:11,860 --> 01:20:13,420 so please get out in vote. 1047 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,280 Early voting is open, so you can go now and vote. 1048 01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:23,900 Also, too, I'd like to commend a PCIC and party in the park. 1049 01:20:23,900 --> 01:20:32,160 I was in the city booth on Saturday and it was fun and the music was interrupted a little 1050 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:37,600 bit by the weather but it was pretty good when it came back it was great but it was 1051 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:44,460 a wonderful event and I had the best pulled fork on the planet, no barnock and I've been 1052 01:20:44,460 --> 01:20:51,100 around for a while, it was really good, it was really really good so thank you there May I 1053 01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:55,940 have a motion to move into executive session. 1054 01:20:56,100 --> 01:20:56,980 You certainly may. 1055 01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:01,600 I would like to make a motion to move into executive session being held in accordance with 1056 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,940 Article Two, Section Two, that's six, that's two. 1057 01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:10,060 To consider the purchase of or lease of property for public purposes, the premature 1058 01:21:10,060 --> 01:21:13,820 disclosure of information would be adverse to the public interest. 1059 01:21:13,820 --> 01:21:23,400 and, in accordance with Article 2, Section 6-3, to discuss pending or from the litigation involving city. 1060 01:21:25,180 --> 01:21:25,780 Can I have a second? 1061 01:21:26,580 --> 01:21:27,040 Second. 1062 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:28,380 On the favor? 1063 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:29,300 Hi. 1064 01:21:30,420 --> 01:21:30,440 All right. 1065 01:21:30,980 --> 01:21:31,980 We're done.