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Call to order the meeting of the Village of Palatine Zoting Board of Appeals meeting of May 23rd, 2017.

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Can we have a roll call, please?

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Mr. Larson.

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Here.

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Ms. Rothberster.

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Ms. Wood.

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Here.

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Mr. Luzak.

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Mr. McGinn.

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Here.

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Mr. Quinn.

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Here.

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Mr. Kavanaugh.

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Here.

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Mr. Dietrich.

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Here.

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Mr. Pyro.

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Okay, we do have a quorum.

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Are there any additions or corrections to the meetings of the meeting of May 9, 2017?

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Seeing none, can I have a motion to approve the minutes of May 9, 2017 as written?

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Motion to approve the minutes as written.

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Second.

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We have a motion and a second to approve the minutes as written of May 9, 2017.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Hi.

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Anyone opposed?

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The minutes of May 9th, 2017 are approved.

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Got a motion to open this meeting.

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So moved.

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Second.

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Motion second to open this meeting.

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All those in favor?

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Aye.

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Anyone opposed?

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We're open.

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All right, good evening, everyone.

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We are the Zoning Board of Appeals

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of the Village of Palatine.

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We welcome you.

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We're a panel appointed by the Village

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which serves, among other things,

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to conduct public hearing function

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for special uses and variances

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sought in the village.

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Our recommendations are advisory only

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and will be sent on to the village council

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via the council committee.

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Council members will have the final word

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and will decide whether or not to adopt an ordinance.

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On petitions, you'll have ample time

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to present your cases.

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We would ask though you try not to be repetitive

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or cumulative with your testimony exhibits.

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Also, I ask that sometime in your presentation

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you address the standards

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found in the zoning ordinance,

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which must be met by you prior to any favorable advisory opinion of this board.

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These standards appear in the ordinance and we're in the packet that we're given to you at the time of the application.

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As anyone else that's in the audience today, you'll be given time to ask questions by the petitioner or the staff

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to make any comments on record and to voice your approval or objection to the petition.

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And we will hear each item as posted on the agenda tonight.

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All right, the

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first item on tonight's agenda concerns the property located at 140 West Northwest Highway

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I'd like to see if I have a motion to continue this matter to Tuesday, June 13th 2017. So move

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Second. I have a motion to second to continue this matter to June 13th 2017. All those in favor say aye.

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Aye. Anyone opposed? We are continue that matter to June 13.

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And the next item on the property

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concerns of property, commonly known as 137 East Palatine Road.

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Petitioners here for this matter?

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You don't need to come up quite yet.

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All right, in support of this matter,

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we have Exhibit 1,

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which is the application for special use.

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Exhibit number 2 is the proof of ownership.

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Exhibit number 3 is the plot of survey site plan.

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Exhibit number 4 is the fence elevation.

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Notice this matter was sent to nearby areas surrounding

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and was published in the Daily Herald on May 8th, 2017.

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Okay, if we could swear in staff, please.

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Thank you. Do you swear or tell the truth?

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The whole truth and nothing but the truth.

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Thank you.

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Can we have staff's presentation on this matter, please?

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The petitioners are requesting to install a four-foot picket fence in their front yard.

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Therefore, they're requesting a special use to permit a fence in the front yard.

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The subject property is zoned R3, high-density multifamily.

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The petitioners are proposing to construct a fence in the front yard that is two feet off the property line.

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Landscaping would be required for the area between the fence and the lot line along East Palatine Road.

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The proposed fence will be a four-foot picket style and the area will be used for gardening.

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Here are a couple of pictures.

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Here's from the front.

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You can kind of see the garden there to have going.

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And from the sidewalk and from the other side.

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Both community services and engineering have reviewed this and did not identify any issues.

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And here are the standards for special use.

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Thank you. Does anyone on the board have any questions on staff's presentation?

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Let's have the petitioner come forward, please.

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Right, sir. Can you raise your right hand?

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Do you swear to tell the truth? The whole truth and nothing but the truth.

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Yes.

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Thank you. Can we have your name and address, please?

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Nick Cukic, 919 North Campbell Avenue, Unit 4, Chicago.

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This is KUKICH?

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KUKIC.

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IC.

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Correct.

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And can you do the address one more time?

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919 North Campbell Avenue, Chicago, Illinois.

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I'm the, my parents own the property,

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so I submitted this for my mom.

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Okay, you're the son of the property owners.

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All right, so go ahead if you can give us a little,

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more information about what you want to do,

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why you want to do it.

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So, I'm sorry.

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Go ahead, address the standards and any other information that we have.

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Pretty much it's the only suitable spot for this address where we could do a gardening that has enough land for it.

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The reason for the fence is to kind of have it secure around the perimeter of the garden.

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In the past, we've had a few times where people overnight or someone's not there for a few

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days have come and gathered and picked all the vegetables and without our knowledge.

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So this kind of gives us a little more security for someone not crossing over that property line.

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Any questions?

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You think a four-foot fence is sufficient for that?

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I didn't hear the question, I'm sorry.

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Oh, so it's a four-foot fence?

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Correct.

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That will keep people out offensively?

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Yeah, I mean, I'm supposed to go and hop it, but yeah.

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Okay.

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And what type of gardening is this?

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Vegetable and flower.

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Is this something the residents would take advantage of?

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Yeah, it's mainly my mom lives at the residence.

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So it is kind of a community, it's for that six-unit flat.

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Anybody can use that land if they want to do their own gardening as well.

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I have a question. How far is the fence going to come to the driveway area?

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Is it going to be all the way over?

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Point it out for us on the overhead?

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Yes, so from the driveway, we're staying away, we're around two feet away from the driveway.

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Actually, can I correct? He's doing a bevel. It was a conversation.

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So there's a five-foot bevel that opens that line of sight at the driveway.

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Yeah, that's my question, but there's going to be any challenges getting out of that driveway with the fence.

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So it sounds like that's being addressed.

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Yes. But there is no immediate parking lot or anything where the fence is going.

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So how

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much area of landscaping will there be? There's just those...

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She has rows.

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Between the fence and the sidewalk, there'll be landscaping.

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There will be grass.

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I think we're allowed to go two foot, four inches from the sidewalk to the fence line.

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Any of the grass would not be...

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You have to do something like a day lily or something like that along that edge with landscaping.

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Okay.

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Are there any other picket fences in the area?

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I do see one on the corner of Benton and Palatine Road but I think that's the only one in that stretch.

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Staff, do you know of any others?

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I don't write along that stretch. It goes back and forth between residential and business.

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So off the top of my head, no I don't. I can't think of any right in that area.

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I think what makes this unique is this is one of the few properties

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where the only green space is in the front yard.

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Look at the overhead here. It's all parking lot.

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The only green space is in the front. I mean, there's a very small green space

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next to the building, but in terms of any plot of land.

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Anyone else have any questions?

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Thank you, sir.

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Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to speak on this matter?

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Do you want to?

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If you want to speak, come on up.

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We're going to swear he in, okay?

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All right.

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Can you raise your right hand?

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Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth,

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and nothing but the truth?

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Um, yeah.

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Can you give us your name and address, please?

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It was Ben Larson, and I live in 154 East Cunningham Drive,

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Palatine, Illinois.

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And, um, so, since the fence is two feet off the property line,

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Well, I can't just move it like back to feet.

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So you're wondering if the fence could be moved back further towards the building?

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Okay.

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We'll see if the petition wants to come up and answer that.

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Hey, do you have any other questions or anything else you'd like to say?

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No.

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Okay.

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Thank you, Ben.

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If you'd like to address that, you can come on up.

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I also just clarified to the regardless, any fence in a front yard,

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regardless of the setback, would require relief.

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Thank you.

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It just gives us more land for gardening if we push it back another two.

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So we have, if you go back to the flat survey, we have about 25 feet off the left side of the building.

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So that would be the west side.

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So that would bring us back down to 23.

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is just more land for us to use, so.

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Do you know if any other tenants have indicated that they would take advantage of it?

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Not at this moment, no.

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Thank you.

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Hey, if anyone else in the audience wish to speak,

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find out.

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It's not about this.

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Oh, okay, then we'll wait. We'll wait.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Then can we have the staff's recommendation, please?

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The subject property is a multi-family building that contains six units.

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The property is unique as the front yard is the only green space on the subject property.

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Additionally, the proposed fence should not have a negative impact on the value of the surrounding properties.

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Therefore, staff recommends the approval of the variation request subject to the following condition.

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The variation shall substantially conform to the site plan submitted by the petitioner on 5917,

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except as such plans may be changed to conform to village codes and ordinances.

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Thank you. Does anyone on the board have any questions on staff's recommendation?

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Foundation.

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Does the petitioner or anyone in the audience have any questions on the staff's recommendation?

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Okay, then we will close the public hearing portion. We'll see if we have a motion and a second.

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Motion to approve subject to staff's conditions.

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Second.

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We have a motion to approve subject to staff's conditions and a second. Any discussion, please?

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Well, I certainly think this is going to be operated in a matter consistent with public health, safety, and welfare.

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certainly won't negatively impact the surrounding values, property values.

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It is unique. It has some front yard space.

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I like the idea that they're doing sort of a community garden there.

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The fence, though not many of the neighbors have a picket fence in the front property,

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wouldn't be unique to Palatine.

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There are some of those I've seen around town with a picket fence in the front yard

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and does provide a little bit of privacy for those doing the gardening there.

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So like

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the fact that it's four feet. I mean, I think that's probably what's in the front yard

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I don't know that you can go any higher without additional relief. Well, this by itself even in the front yard, but

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but doesn't seem to be overwhelming that way and

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Seems like a great thing that's time to accomplish to have a garden where there is no availability

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Would you say good question that you asked your young man

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Do we have to go by the, with the other front yard stuff for the,

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there's a front yard fence, right?

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Fact.

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Okay, so then I'll say that it'll meet all the other additional standards

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based upon the fencing in the front yard, the existing vistas,

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and enhance the appearance.

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I think it will actually do a good job of that.

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So I think it meets not the regular standards,

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plus the additional standards for front yard fencing as well.

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All right, then we'll take a roll call, please.

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Mr. Larson?

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Yes.

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Ms. Wood.

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Yes.

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Mr. McGinn.

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Yes.

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Mr. Quinn.

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Yes.

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Mr. Kavanaugh.

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Yes.

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Mr. Dietrich.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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There was a vote in favor.

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Now your names vote 6 to 0.

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This board having found that the standards have been met.

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And it's anticipated this goes before the village council.

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Jim Teth on June 5th.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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And we'll proceed with the next and final item on tonight's agenda which is for

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the property, commonly known as 630 South Quentin Road.

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Is the petitioner here for this matter?

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Thank you.

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For this matter, we have

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petitioners exhibit one,

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which is the application for variation.

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Exhibit number two is the proof of ownership.

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Exhibit number three is the letter from petitioner.

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Exhibit number four is the plot of survey.

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Exhibit number five is the site plan.

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Exhibit number six is the elevation.

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Exhibit

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number seven is a public notice, notice this matter,

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sent to nearby areas surrounding

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neighbors and was published in the Daily Herald on May 8th, 2017.

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And we have objectors exhibit number one, which is from Wayne's Exhibit.

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Objectors exhibit number two is from Jenna Dunn.

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Objectors Exhibit Number 3 is from Matt Cadenas.

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Objectors Exhibit Number 4 is from Matthew Mikes.

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Objectors Exhibit Number 5 is from Jennifer Dow.

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Looks like Jennifer and Daniel off.

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Clarification. Is Jennifer and Daniel an objector?

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Well, it's still called objector, even though they can be in favor.

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The petitioner is proposing to construct a memorial garden at the southeast side of the

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building. The lot coverage on the subject property is existing non-conforming and therefore the

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petitioner is requesting a variation to permit lot coverage of 78% instead of the maximum

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permitted 40%. The subject property is owned R1B Single Family and contains the All Saints

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Lutheran Church. The total lot size is approximately 81,000 square feet. The

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proposed Memorial Garden would consist of a brick-paver patio enclosed by a four

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foot high wrought iron fence and a six foot high masonry wall at the southeast

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corner of the patio. The petitioner has indicated the masonry wall will

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provide for artwork, sacred space, and a sound barrier from Quentin Road. The

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Memorial Garden would be set back approximately 40 feet from the front

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lot line, 30 feet is required, and 2 feet from the side lot line, where 2 feet is required.

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The brick-paper patio is approximately 235 square feet in area, and the foundation of

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the masonry wall is approximately 25 square feet in area.

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The existing impervious surface on the subject property is approximately 63,179 square feet.

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Therefore the existing lot coverage is approximately 77.6 percent.

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The proposed lot coverage is 77.9 percent.

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The maximum permitted lot coverage in this district is 40.

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The building coverage does meet code.

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There were no issues identified from any of the departments.

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And one thing I would like to mention is the village did recently discover

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that the adjacent retention pond could potentially be property of the All Saints Lutheran Church.

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at this time our village attorneys are in the process of determining whether what

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the correct information is and we will be communicating the outcome to the

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petitioner of the church accordingly. We did want to make you aware though because

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it may become a point of discussion tonight however we would like you to

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you know focus your deliberations on the request for 78% at this time. Thank

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I'm sorry, I didn't go through the existing conditions photos so I'll do that real quick.

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So it's existing non-conforming so there is no other variations on the property right now?

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There are other variations.

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So it's existing non-conforming as in the law coverage already exceeds the 40 percent.

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So whether they are just this one lot or they have the lot with the retention pond

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Either way they need a lot coverage variation tonight. It's a difference of I think it would be if they did own the retention pond

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Their existing lot coverage is 40.7% and the proposed lot coverage would be 40.9%

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I was just verified that they they have not gotten a variation for the oh, I'm sorry

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No, no, they they did get a special use in

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2002 for an addition

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But at that time lot coverage is not part of our code

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So we know that they have the property of the church, and that current lot coverage is 40.7?

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No, I'm sorry. With just the church property, if I go back...

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They're at 77.

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If you see here, the church is outlined in yellow solid line, and then the retention pond is the dotted yellow line.

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So, if it was just the church property, the existing law coverage is 77.6% and they would

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be proposing a law coverage of 77.9 or 78% rounded.

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With that retention fund, they go from 40.7% to 40.9%.

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Thank you.

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Is it normal for churches to be R1B?

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They're normal for them to be residential.

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residential. I can't say how many are R1B or how many are R2 or R1, but it is typical

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for them to be zone residential.

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We also had some photos submitted by the petitioner and

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the standards for our variation.

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So for some of the other church properties that we have in Palatine, how common is

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it for them to be over their existing lot coverage?

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I'd say it's more common than not because they're required to have parking, so parking

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law, it takes up a majority of their space as you can see at this circumstance and also

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their buildings are larger. So I'd say a request for a lot coverage for churches is not uncommon

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or for them to be over the existing law coverage.

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Any other questions? Okay, so we're going to bring the petitioner up and then after

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the petitioner speaks, if there's anyone else in the audience, they can speak too.

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So if we can have the petitioner come forward, please.

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Good evening.

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Okay, so I'm going to have you swear you swear you and do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Can we have your name and address please? My name is Steven Fedota FED OTA

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My address is eight five nine South Park Place Drive in Palatine

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The petition was submitted by me with the new dress of 630 South Quentin on behalf of my church

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Go ahead sir if you want to tell us

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what you want to do a little more information, what you want to do, why you want to do it,

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and address maybe some concerns that maybe you see of some neighbors.

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Okay.

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Commissioners, first I'd like to thank you for your time volunteering to help maintain

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Palatine to be the great community that it is recently.

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I have become much more aware of the commitment that you folks make.

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I'm here this evening on behalf of my church, All Saints Lutheran Church, known by many

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as the Church by the Pond on Quentin.

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All Saints was organized 38 years ago, and I've been a member of this congregation for

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almost 30 of those years, having served in a number of leadership positions.

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We are a diverse but united family of God, people committing ourselves to God's service.

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We will celebrate our diversity, unity, and commitment to Christ, whose spirit

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guides us in church and home, workplaces, and communities. This mission statement

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that I just recited underpins, for lack of a better term, our brand for all to

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know Christ. We reach out to the community beyond Sunday mornings in

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our church building. The All Saints community is part of our larger

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community. We were one of the original seven churches that recognized homelessness exists

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in the Northwest suburbs, and we did something about it by opening our pads, our public action

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to deliver shelter site. We, in partnership with an ever-changing cohort of North suburban

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urban churches, have completed over 10 Habitat for Humanity homes.

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Our community outreach of summer suppers and Thanksgiving meals is welcomed by hundreds

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of those less fortunate within our community, as well as the establishment of the Youth

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Hunger Opposition Waihop in Palatine was formed by members of our youth group.

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Our Bethel Food Pantry feeds scores of individuals on an everlasting basis.

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The All Saints Ministry Endowment Fund requires that part of the annual funding grants

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consider community agencies within our geographic area.

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I'm here tonight seeking lot coverage variance of 3-tenths of 1%.

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To enhance our existing ministry of caring and support to those who have lost a loved one.

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By reference, three-tenths of 1% is equivalent to approximately 35 square feet on a quarter-acre lot, 36 square feet.

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As you've heard from staff, we're proposing to create a memorial garden to take advantage of the unique,

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calming and life-sustaining effects of the pond adjacent to our property. As to

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justification, the Memorial Garden represents an enhancement to our

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existing ministry as an established member of the Lutheran Church in America.

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The unique circumstances attendant to all Saints standing include a

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A church as a place of assembly is required to provide for off-street parking.

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Residential lot permit substantially less nonpermeable surface than commercial lots.

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The area planning in the 1960s cited a water retention basin adjacent to an undesirable

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residential parcel, given its location with egress available only to Quinton Road, a

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major thoroughfare. All Saints was permitted to build in a residential neighborhood, and

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since its original construction 38 years ago, the building codes have reduced the amount

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of nonpermeable surface permitted in residential areas. All Saints wishes to incorporate the

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aesthetics of the neighboring pond to enhance our existing ministry as to the essential

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characteristics of the locality. In order to take advantage of our own site plan and

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the peacefulness of the pond setting, the memorial

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You

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The garden is located at the furthest reach of any of our neighbors. There are a total of

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eight neighbors who will have a direct exposure to the garden. Two are located across Quinton

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Road, effectively screened by evergreen trees and topography. Two neighbors at the north

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end of those with an exposure are lightly screened by trees and bushes to the site that lies

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approximately 150 to 250, I'm sorry, 150 to 200 feet from their property.

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The proposed wall section will screen their view of the existing 5-foot high transformer

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and electric meter service located on the building.

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The remaining four neighbors are heavily screened by vegetation at 200 to 250 feet

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from the proposed site.

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Again, the proposed wall will screen the existing electrical equipment.

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In addition to the village's notification of the neighbors, during the week of April

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17th, we canvassed the neighborhood leaving a letter behind explaining that the village

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will be contacting them soon and outlining our proposal.

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During the canvass, we received no negative and some positive response, with most of

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the neighbors taking a wait and see what the village will report attitude on

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this

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overhead so where is the fence and where is it going to be located on this

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over where the physical location yeah if you want to yeah you could do it on

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this one I don't wherever I'm kind of thinking I was just curious actually if

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If you go over, you'll see your site on here, on the clicker.

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On the clicker?

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If we go, this might help.

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There we go.

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This may help you.

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This area here is the proposed site.

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And what's there right now?

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Right now, could staff bring up the picture, the photograph of the area?

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That's the existing area from essentially the ABS corrugated drain pipe to the existing patio is what we're proposing.

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So we'll go beyond those trees?

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No, sir.

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Okay.

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The lot line lies, the lot line is 16 feet, I'm sorry, 17 feet from the indent.

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If you take the wall where the eight windows are in the background, the lot line comes out.

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If you could use the pointer, can you use the pointer?

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Sure.

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It could be a little easier.

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Okay.

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The lot line comes out to about here.

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It's 18 feet from this wall and 7 feet from this wall.

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And this would be set back 2 feet from the property line.

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Do you have any other questions?

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Thank you.

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Thank you anyone

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who wishes to speak on this matter

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Come on forward, please and

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if you can raise your right hand, please

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Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I do. Thank you. Can you give us your name, please?

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Marilyn Harder

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last name for us H. A. R. D. E. R.

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And your address, please 834 West

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Exner Court

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pelletine.

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All right, if you can tell us that, whatever you'd like to say today.

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Well, we live in a cul-de-sac that kind of fronts the pond over here. And I was just

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wondering about that wrought iron fence. How far is that going to go? Are we going to be seeing it?

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Is it going to be an eyesore? I already have problems with our neighbor next door who wants

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to put up a four-foot picket fence and he's basically going to take our view away from

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the pond. I think it's going to devalue our home. Can we petition somebody here to prevent

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him from putting up a fence?

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No, the fence would be allowed by code.

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Really?

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Mm-hmm.

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But he's going to take away our view completely.

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I can let the petitioners speak to that, but I believe it's going to be a four-foot

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high wrought iron fence. I don't believe it's going to be a solid fence.

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No, I'm talking about my neighbor next door. You know what your neighbor next door? That's probably

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something you should contact the village separately from tonight if you want to have

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that conversation. Okay, so I am a little worried about

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this wrought iron fence as well. How far is that going to go?

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Is it going to go right up to the pond? No, it's, if you

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look on here, this red line right here, this is the fence.

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And it's going to go kind of make like an L shape and it's going to be set back two feet from their lot line

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And their lot line is not all the way to the pond

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So there's there's a quite a bit of green space in between okay fence and the pond okay, so actually

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If you look on this image here

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You can see that there's this it won't go all the way it won't go to the tree

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You won't go all the way to the end to the pond or into the trees, okay

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because we like green space. I'm tired of people putting up fences all over the place

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and just boxes everything in. We want to see trees and grass. We don't want to see fences.

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How do I petition for my neighbor? Again, this is something you need to contact

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the village separately from tonight. Tonight we're here to talk about the church. I'll

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give you my card before you leave. Thank you. I'll just note to the petitioner

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or once any residents or anyone wishes to speak,

482
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:25,350
once they're finished, you can come on back up

483
00:37:25,350 --> 00:37:29,610
and if you wanna address any concerns or questions they have.

484
00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:31,690
Would anyone else like to speak?

485
00:37:45,820 --> 00:37:47,140
Hi, if you can raise your right hand please.

486
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,180
Do you swear to tell the truth?

487
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:49,560
The whole truth and nothing but the truth.

488
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,060
I do.

489
00:37:50,380 --> 00:37:50,880
Thank you.

490
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,140
Can you give us your name please?

491
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,840
Jennifer Mullen-Kovash, M-O-L-A-N-D,

492
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,600
hyphen K-O-V-A-S-H.

493
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,240
Did you get that?

494
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:01,520
Awesome.

495
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,880
And your address?

496
00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:06,160
3800 J. Lane, Rolling Meadows.

497
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Thank you.

498
00:38:07,940 --> 00:38:13,480
And go ahead if you can tell us your relationship to this manner and anything you'd like to say today.

499
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,960
I am one of the pastors at All St. Lutheran Church.

500
00:38:17,340 --> 00:38:24,180
Before any of the homes or buildings that exist today were built along the west side of Quentin Road, there was a farm.

501
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,920
The Darling Farm.

502
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:31,660
farm. In the 1960s, Carl and Betty Darling sold their farm to a developer, and the landscape

503
00:38:31,660 --> 00:38:38,260
of Palatine continued to change. In April of 1979, All Saints Lutheran Church organized

504
00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:43,760
and began meeting at Framed High School. Over the next four years, they became a congregation

505
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:49,780
and acquired the land at 630 South Quentin, establishing the congregation as part of

506
00:38:49,780 --> 00:38:56,180
community. Now nearly 40 years later, as Steve has indicated, All Saints hosts 12

507
00:38:56,180 --> 00:39:00,340
community groups that meet weekly or monthly, and in the first quarter of

508
00:39:00,340 --> 00:39:05,140
2017 the building was home to 21 different one-time events for the

509
00:39:05,140 --> 00:39:09,060
community. We've been a pad site from the beginning. We partner with the

510
00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:13,600
township to provide Christmas gifts and Easter baskets. We partner with PhD to

511
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,540
shower new families with necessities. We build homes with habitat, serve

512
00:39:17,540 --> 00:39:22,000
free meals to the community during the summer months and invite any and all who need a place

513
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,920
to be on Thanksgiving to gather around our tables.

514
00:39:26,140 --> 00:39:32,720
And on any given day, Sunday or weekday, people who call all saints their church home work

515
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,760
and serve to make our communities strong and vibrant.

516
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:40,220
I am thankful to have served at all saints since 2004.

517
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,380
At the church I am known for my love of baptism and the delight that I take in

518
00:39:45,380 --> 00:39:50,860
flashing in the water, and letting people know that God loves them from the very beginning.

519
00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:56,920
But it's not just at the beginning. Part of our calling as people of faith is to walk

520
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:03,000
with one another from the beginning to the end. I knew some of the history of this area,

521
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:09,700
but I learned more one day during the spring of 2015 when Scott Darling, the son of Betty

522
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:14,560
and Carl, called me. He shared his own memories of growing up on the land where

523
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,940
the church now sits, and then he said,

524
00:40:17,660 --> 00:40:21,080
my mom, Betty Darling Holtz-Nagel, has died.

525
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,900
We're wondering, he said, if we can bring her back

526
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:28,900
to the farm, so to speak, for a funeral.

527
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,680
I said, Mr. Darling, it's what we do

528
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,200
from the beginning to the end.

529
00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:38,240
The construction of this memorial garden

530
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,240
is an opportunity to provide a continuation

531
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,460
of the life services that we provide,

532
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,760
letting people know that God loves them from the beginning to the end and letting

533
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,300
people know that we're part of the community of Palatine making it

534
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:56,900
stronger from the beginning to the end. Thank you.

535
00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:03,240
Thank you. Is there anyone else

536
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:04,480
who wishes to speak on this matter?

537
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,700
I don't know if the petitioner wants to come up

538
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:18,440
and address any question that the neighborhood resident had.

539
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,500
Such as?

540
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,460
Well, she wanted to know how far, I think we showed her, how far we're going in the fence

541
00:41:37,460 --> 00:41:38,820
and how we look.

542
00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:44,260
As I indicated, let's go back one.

543
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:51,360
That is the artist's rendering of the wrought iron fence that would come, essentially,

544
00:41:51,360 --> 00:42:01,160
14.5 feet off of the building, which would leave approximately 30 feet from the fence to the pond.

545
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,540
Any other questions that I could respond to?

546
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,660
I don't think so.

547
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,300
Okay.

548
00:42:14,420 --> 00:42:16,580
I appreciate the opportunity.

549
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,200
Thank you.

550
00:42:19,340 --> 00:42:22,600
If anyone else wish to speak, any further questions,

551
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:30,100
then we're going to close this public hearing

552
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:32,600
and see if we have a recommendation for staff.

553
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:39,120
The location of the proposed patio and the height of the proposed fence and masonry wall meet code.

554
00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:46,580
However, staff understands that any additional structures on the subject property will require lot coverage relief from the zoning ordinance.

555
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:55,500
As the existing lot coverage already exceeds the maximum permitted, staff does not believe that the proposed Memorial Garden will negatively impact the surrounding properties.

556
00:42:56,100 --> 00:43:00,340
In addition, the Village Engineer has reviewed the plans and does not have any concerns.

557
00:43:00,340 --> 00:43:05,760
Therefore, staff recommends approval of the variation request subject to the following condition.

558
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:14,740
The variation shall substantially conform to the site plans and elevation plans submitted by the petitioner on March 30th, 2017,

559
00:43:15,220 --> 00:43:18,600
except as such plans may be changed to conform to village codes and ordinances.

560
00:43:20,530 --> 00:43:21,350
Thank you.

561
00:43:21,870 --> 00:43:24,350
Does anyone on the board have any questions on staff's recommendation?

562
00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:30,700
Does the petitioner or anyone in the audience have any questions on staff's recommendation?

563
00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:40,620
Close public hearing and see if we have a motion.

564
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,500
Motion to approve subject to staff's conditions.

565
00:43:45,940 --> 00:43:46,200
Second.

566
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,340
We have a motion and a second.

567
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,200
Do we have any discussion?

568
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:57,860
Well, looking at the standards, in light of the fact that this is a church, which requires a significant parking,

569
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:05,160
you're going to have a lot covered issue just by definition of the nature of the property and the use of the property.

570
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:11,410
So I think unique circumstances have been established.

571
00:44:11,890 --> 00:44:13,690
As far as the character of the locality,

572
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:15,710
I think it's the very minor change of the property

573
00:44:15,710 --> 00:44:17,290
and as they've testified,

574
00:44:17,350 --> 00:44:20,070
it's not going to interfere with the access of the lake

575
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:24,390
or the visibility from some of the other residents.

576
00:44:25,050 --> 00:44:27,770
So I don't think it's gonna alter the essential character

577
00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:30,630
and then the return, again,

578
00:44:30,810 --> 00:44:32,270
because of the nature of the use,

579
00:44:32,450 --> 00:44:35,710
I think a lot covered in any sort of alteration

580
00:44:35,710 --> 00:44:38,950
the property you're going to need relief such as this.

581
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:46,150
I agree with everything you said, the parking lots

582
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:50,330
just make a lot of coverage, almost impossible to meet with the standards

583
00:44:50,330 --> 00:44:54,230
that are there. This isn't really, there's still going to be a lot of space

584
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:56,030
between the fence and the pond.

585
00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:03,700
It's not going to alter the essential character of that neighborhood. If it was going to block

586
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:09,620
that whole area off or something, it might, but this is just going to enter into a small

587
00:45:09,620 --> 00:45:14,080
area by the church. I don't think that it will alter the character of the neighborhood

588
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,480
at all.

589
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,320
With a lot coverage issue, it's usually a case of those are flooding problems, and

590
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,120
with the huge pond right there, it's kind of a non-issue.

591
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,640
Yeah, I agree. I was thinking of that when we were talking about the lot coverage. It

592
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,200
to take it all right and up on.

593
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:32,860
I guess the one standard for a variation

594
00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:34,460
I'm having a little trouble with is

595
00:45:34,460 --> 00:45:36,860
I'm not sure that the property in question

596
00:45:36,860 --> 00:45:39,400
cannot yield a reasonable return as permitted

597
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,660
to be used only under the conditions.

598
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:45,380
It kind of begs the question of what kind of return

599
00:45:45,380 --> 00:45:47,120
is it trying to get on this property.

600
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,020
It's not like your standard business

601
00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:52,220
or a residence that you would sell eventually

602
00:45:52,220 --> 00:45:52,960
at some point.

603
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:00,240
So that's the one I'm battling with, I think the other ones are met pretty well.

604
00:46:01,020 --> 00:46:03,840
I'd be interested to hear what you guys think about that one.

605
00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:10,840
I think maybe it is, you know, it's already non-conforming with the lack coverage.

606
00:46:12,020 --> 00:46:18,920
And giving the largest of the parcel, it's a small amount that's being requested.

607
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:27,420
And either way, because the lock coverage has changed since originally was plotted and built,

608
00:46:27,980 --> 00:46:32,540
they would have to get some relief.

609
00:46:33,140 --> 00:46:42,120
And I think that because the coverage has changed and not anticipating that,

610
00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:46,780
they would anticipate that they would be able to put something like this,

611
00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:53,080
It's not, you know, an additional huge construction, not additional building, but rather, you know,

612
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:56,960
a garden sectioned off by a wrought iron fence, I think.

613
00:46:57,580 --> 00:47:02,420
I think it's a little bit returned that way, like they would expect maybe in the future

614
00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:07,380
they would be able to add something like that, but with coverage changing, you know,

615
00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:09,420
they then were not able to do that.

616
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,460
So I think, you know, you could look a little bit that way with, you know, the return

617
00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:19,920
under the conditions by, you know, the current now lot coverage and zoning ordinances?

618
00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:24,600
Yeah, and I think it's a good question that you raise. I mean, it's his own residential.

619
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,380
And so imagine this wasn't a church, instead it was a house, and it was close to lot coverage,

620
00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:33,980
but they were really looking to enhance the outdoor area with this really nice outdoor, you know,

621
00:47:34,060 --> 00:47:38,120
garden space or brick, paver, patio. They'd be sitting here explaining the same thing.

622
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:43,160
And in a sense, that would probably increase the value of the home if we were allowed to do that type of exception.

623
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,100
But this is very unique in the fact that churches are zoned residential.

624
00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:50,380
And I think Ted had mentioned this too.

625
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,480
You know, just the parking lot alone.

626
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:53,880
Without even the church being built,

627
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:56,560
it's probably going to exceed lot coverage in cases like this.

628
00:48:00,910 --> 00:48:01,330
Further?

629
00:48:03,410 --> 00:48:04,930
All right, then we'll take a roll call, please.

630
00:48:06,610 --> 00:48:07,350
Ms. Wood?

631
00:48:07,770 --> 00:48:07,970
Yes.

632
00:48:08,490 --> 00:48:09,150
Mr. McGinn?

633
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:09,810
Yes.

634
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:10,930
Mr. Quinn?

635
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:11,790
Yes.

636
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:13,150
Mr. Kavanaugh?

637
00:48:13,410 --> 00:48:13,650
Yes.

638
00:48:13,950 --> 00:48:14,670
Mr. Dietrich?

639
00:48:15,150 --> 00:48:15,450
Yes.

640
00:48:15,730 --> 00:48:16,410
Mr. Larson?

641
00:48:16,410 --> 00:48:17,070
Yes.

642
00:48:17,690 --> 00:48:23,250
There was a unanimous vote 6-0, this board having found that the standards for variation

643
00:48:23,250 --> 00:48:28,410
have been met, and it's anticipated this goes for the Village Council on June 12th.

644
00:48:29,130 --> 00:48:29,610
June 12th.

645
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,980
Thank you, everyone, for coming this evening, and we'll see if we have any communications.

646
00:48:40,660 --> 00:48:41,840
Yeah, just our next meeting.

647
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,660
Our next meeting is going to be on June 13th.

648
00:48:45,660 --> 00:48:46,860
We do have four items.

649
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,220
As always if you're not going to be able to attend, please let us know as soon as possible.

650
00:48:52,180 --> 00:48:59,140
I don't believe any items went to council between our last meeting and now council will be having their first meeting.

651
00:48:59,240 --> 00:48:59,920
I believe it's June 5th.

652
00:49:03,790 --> 00:49:04,930
You will not appear June 13th.

653
00:49:04,990 --> 00:49:05,070
Okay.

654
00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:09,350
I think that's it.

655
00:49:09,710 --> 00:49:10,030
All right.

656
00:49:11,050 --> 00:49:11,670
Thank you.

657
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:12,730
I have a motion to adjourn.

658
00:49:12,990 --> 00:49:13,390
So moved.

659
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:14,190
Second.

660
00:49:14,550 --> 00:49:15,970
Motion is second to adjourn.

661
00:49:16,030 --> 00:49:16,630
All those in favor.

662
00:49:17,170 --> 00:49:17,330
Aye.

663
00:49:18,070 --> 00:49:18,610
Not opposed.

664
00:49:21,450 --> 00:49:23,790
It's hereby adjourned.

665
00:49:24,370 --> 00:49:25,330
Thank you for your time.