1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,000 All the public voting. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Monday, April 14th, 2025, battle clerk, will you please call the roll. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Mayors wants to. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Councillor Mellar. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Here. 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Councillor Mellar. 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Councillor Misson Schee. 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Councillor Muffin, Councillor Fawkember. 9 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Here. 10 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Councillor Misson Schee. 11 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Councillor Misson Schee. 12 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Here. 13 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Councillor Misson Schee. 14 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Here. 15 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 What are your plans to join me in the touch of allegiance? 16 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 All the United States of America. 17 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,520 I'm kidding. 18 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:45,000 So the first up, Stephen the Emotion, improved the minutes of the regular village council meeting and committee of the home meeting of April 7c 2025? 19 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,480 Motion to approve. 20 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:47,480 Second. 21 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:52,840 second all those in favor please signify by saying aye. Opposed. All right, I might report the 22 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,080 CV got a few things. First up, we're going to ask to consider resolution re-appointing members 23 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:05,880 to various village boards and commissions. Can I have a motion? So moved. Motion is seconded. Is there 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,040 anybody in the audience from any of our boards and commissions that's here this evening? I just want 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,840 to recommend you know. All right, any discussion from the council on this? Staff anything that? 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:21,560 So this is boards and commissions that are kind of the backbone of what we do. They're volunteers who spend 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:28,680 their time, their energy, their talents helping the village. And it's something that we value, 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:34,280 something that is extremely important to like to what we do gain and day out. So for those individuals, 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,200 that's have stepped up throughout the years. Thank you very much. It's our annual opportunity to thank you. 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,080 And with that, there's a motion. The second, all those in favor please signify by saying aye. 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,600 Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, next we're asked to consider a motion concurring with 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:54,040 the mayor's village council committee assignments. Is there a motion? Motion to approve. 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,360 Second. There's a motion. There's a second. Any discussion from the council staff anything on this? 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Anybody in the audience? All's from his last chance to take a victory lap? 35 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,760 Now, this is one of the best days of the year. We have all the budgets to come in next week before it rotates, 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,280 so don't want to say who's going to, this is really going to stick his chest out and say, 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,000 I got his debt free. All right. All right. So there's a motion to second. All those in favor, 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:24,840 please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Just and then just a quick couple quick announcements. 39 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:31,320 Saturday at the 19th from 10 a.m. until 2 p.m. Clean and green. Electronics recycling event. 40 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,520 S&C Electric Company is hosting this. Saturday at the 19th from 9 a.m. until noon, the Palatine 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,600 winter farmers market. I believe this is the last winter market. Is that correct? 42 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,720 Is that me start to summer the next summer is here. Excellent. 50 50 sidewalk replacement 43 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,720 program public works is accepting applications on a first come first serve basis. 44 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,040 Please call public works for more information on that. And finally April is safe digging month. 45 00:02:54,040 --> 00:03:00,760 Call Julie before any digging project that's eight one one any time to submit your request. And with that, 46 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,280 I'll end my report and seek a motion to recess to committee of the whole. So moved. 47 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,200 Second. The motion to second all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. 48 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,000 Aye. Opposed? All right. We are now committee of the whole first out this evening. Community 49 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,840 and economic development committee. Councilman Mallard Chairman. I'd like to open the Community 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,880 Economic Development Committee. We have two items on the published agenda. First is to consider 51 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,960 ordinance granting a minor plan development amendment to allow a revised business plan and floor 52 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:31,160 plan at 16 north bath well. And we're going to refer this back to staff. Could have an 53 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,560 motion to refer this back to staff. So moved. Thank you. Question. 54 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:43,560 All those in favor please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? 55 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,680 Do you have to first take what's on the agenda and hear that first? Make an amendment? 56 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:56,840 No, I mean you can make the motion upfront to refer back. I just declare a file on that. I think the 57 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,000 issue was with some of these changes you'd like to talk about these in conjunction with 58 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,880 their discussion about the video gaming. Is that because we have all those establishments coming 59 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,960 forward? So I just want to have that clarity. So I can talk to the business owner and let them know 60 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,760 what they would be doing. I'm sure they're on the schedule. So we'll be seeing them up here. 61 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,720 Set some point in time and then maybe we schedule it for after that. 62 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,880 Currently not on the schedule, right? Currently they're the one establishment that's not set a date in front 63 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:29,240 of the the village council specifically for video gaming. So if you want to do them in conjunction, 64 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,680 I'll reach out to you for a minute. Yeah, let's do that. 65 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Vote for that or are you fine with that the original motion? Yeah, I'm fine with the original motion. I just 66 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,560 wanted that clarity and then we'll remove this from the consent agenda later this evening. 67 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,200 Next up is considering ordinance adapting the new comprehensive plan for the village of Palatine. 68 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:58,040 Motion to approve. Second. I want to take just a minute to give a little background. I'm going 69 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,120 to turn over to Andy Cross from the Lakota group who helped us throughout this process. 70 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:07,320 As you may recall, the update to the complaint really started in earnest in early 2023. 71 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,120 And I just want to kind of highlight the community involvement that's taken place throughout the process. 72 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,840 So it started with interviews with various village departments, also interviews with all of you. 73 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Then we established some stakeholder meeting groups, which include the government partners, 74 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:27,000 business members, residents and students, the students were from Fremden Palatine High Schools. 75 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,560 There were also people from the local real estate and development world. 76 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,240 Then there was a steering community that was formed. It included residents, business owners, the chair of the 77 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Planning and Zoning Commission. We also had representatives from the Historical Society, District 15, and District 2111. 78 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:47,400 And then lastly, as a reminder, there were also two open houses, one in September of 23 and June of 24 79 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:53,560 that provide an opportunity for public input and also in conjunction with those with a bunch of information available online. 80 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,120 So people couldn't attend those events. They could review the materials. They could provide comments and input. 81 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:04,120 So it's been a very exhaustive, an inclusive process to get to where we are tonight. 82 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,120 And I know Andy, lastly, I'll say the steering committee and the Planning is only commissioned 83 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,520 of both recommended approval, the complaint, and Andy's going to run through a presentation of the 84 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:13,800 CFing. So I'm turning over to him. 85 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,680 Well, thank you very much, Mike. Now Mr. Mayor, members of the council. 86 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,080 It's a pleasure to be here again. I think we had a chance to speak some months ago 87 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:31,560 when this plan was getting there. I think it was, you know, we're still in phase two, just finishing up that last 88 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:38,760 last part of phase two. And so this is a very exciting time that the plan is over the finish line, just so 89 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:45,560 very exciting. And so it's my intent to just sort of introduce you to the finished product. So that when you look at it, 90 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,480 leaf through it, you're going to have an idea. Oh, that's what Andy talked about at the meeting. 91 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:56,600 So this was a three phase process. And as Mike said, this has been going on for about two years. 92 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,840 And that's about average 18 months is kind of a kind of normal. So, you know, between scheduling 93 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:07,800 and summer things, pulling the steering committee meeting together. These plans can stretch out over 94 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,200 a period of months beyond that. So two years is perfectly normal and in the wheelhouse. 95 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:18,120 We started with phase one. And that is really learning about the community and the really the end 96 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:24,920 result of that is a state of the village report worth reading if you haven't. And that is a document that is 97 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:31,480 approved by the steering committee because really before you can charge the path forward, there needs to be a shared 98 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,840 understanding of where you're starting from. What are the key issues? What are the key concerns? Here's what we're 99 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:42,120 going to address moving forward. Everybody needs to agree on that. That way, you know, shared expectations. 100 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:49,000 Phase two is where we start looking at solutions, strategies, recommendations. We test the waters. 101 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:56,680 A plan like this, not only is it community led and community driven, but it's also iterative. We didn't just as 102 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,400 planners say, okay, we got all the answers. We're going to write the plan now. We came up with some ideas, 103 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:07,320 presented them at a workshop, walked through them. Some were, you know, the steering committee and the 104 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,520 public said, wait a minute, no, that's not how we think we can approach this in Palatine. So we tweak it, 105 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:18,680 revise it, move forward. And that, again, iterative process. And once we have this planning framework put together 106 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:24,920 and recognize issues and concerns, shared set of solutions to explore, then we move on to phase three, 107 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:30,920 where we write the comprehensive plan itself. I touched on the public engagement, but check out these 108 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:37,240 stats. We're awfully proud of this. This community really got involved. Hundreds and hundreds of 109 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:43,880 responses to the online survey. And the open houses, and we had wonderful stakeholder group staff that 110 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:49,480 had a great job of pulling focus groups together from various communities, you know, business owners, 111 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:56,040 downtown, residents, seniors, we met with high school students. So we just had a lot of great conversations 112 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:02,760 that really helped inform both phase one and phase two of this plan. I won't certainly won't read 113 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:08,600 this all through, but it's important to know that a key part of the comprehensive plan is the vision statement. 114 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,640 And I'll draw your attention to those four bullet points down there at the bottom. It's, you know, 115 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:20,040 think about those four driving points about what makes Palatine and your vision for leadership in Palatine, 116 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:26,120 especially relevant, and it's those items. Just effective, keeping the police out there, 117 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:32,040 keeping fire paid, and paying the bills, but also improving the quality of life through livability and 118 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:41,000 then economic resiliency and connectivity. So let me talk about how the plan is put together. There are 119 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,680 three main themes, and we'll touch on those in a second. And just one quick note, if you go back 10, 120 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:53,880 15 years, all comp plans, chapter one, housing, chapter two, transportation, chapter three, 121 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,200 economic development. We've really gotten away from that, not only at Lakota Group, or I've worked, 122 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,080 but also in the planning community because that really doesn't do a good job of appreciating how all of 123 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:08,840 those things tie into one another. You can't talk about economic development and also talk about 124 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,800 all infrastructure supports it, how parks and open space are part of the quality of life and 125 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:19,320 contribute to that as well. So instead of just chapterizing based on these siloed topics, 126 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:25,480 we really looped everything into what we gleaned as being key community themes. And we'll talk about 127 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:31,480 those in a second. Those then break down into a series of goals for each theme. Then we talk about 128 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:37,720 strategies to reach those goals and then specific actions. So when we talk about, well, what the 129 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,880 hell do you do with this thing now that it's approved? The actions. And we're going to talk about that 130 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:49,480 in a second. Because we are committed to giving communities a really, really usable, actionable plans. 131 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,360 This isn't just a shelf space. So these are the big themes right there. The built environment, you can 132 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,200 see what that means right there. Certainly, it's land use. You're from really, we're land use discussions. 133 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:05,080 I'm sure they're on every agenda. Same as paying for infrastructure and connectivity. And then 134 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:10,840 economic economy and growth. And that doesn't mean just revitalizing the downtown. It's much 135 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,720 broader than that. And think about the key commercial corridors in Palatine. And that's where we 136 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:21,720 pay a special attention to those. And a lot of great discussions and recommendations and building off 137 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:27,000 Mike's team's previous work for some of the commercial corridors. And then quality of life items 138 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:33,320 really under community and neighborhoods. So I talked about the different levels. We have the goals there 139 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:39,960 on the left for each of the community themes. And then the strategies to approach each one of 140 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:47,080 those goals. So I would, I really hope you do get a chance to leave through those. Don't try to read 141 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:52,280 the whole thing in one night. It'll kill you. But do stretch it out and look at each of those. So we'll 142 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:59,000 see them in economy and growth. And there you see for each of the corridors. And this is really paraphrased. 143 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,120 I really paired this down for our discussion this evening. No reason to go through it. 144 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,880 You're all, you know, certainly able to have access to the plan and read through it. And I really 145 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:15,960 hope you do. But then we do focus on downtown. And just more broadly, the economic base, quality of 146 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:21,560 life items and community in neighborhoods. What's the fourth one there? Housing options. So that's 147 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:27,640 as you know, they all, housing shouldn't be its own chapter. It's part of quality of life in the village. 148 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:33,720 And so many things tie into what helps make housing effective. So this is one thing I really wanted to 149 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:41,960 touch on. We provide a very detailed action matrix, implementation matrix. And so you remember the 150 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:48,680 goals. The community themes, goals, strategies. You'll see the strategies up there. And then 1.2, 2.1, 151 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:53,480 2.1, 2.1, you'll see individual actions right there. Each one has a priority level, 152 00:12:54,360 --> 00:13:01,640 a cost associated with it, and a duration. What term? This is not been finalized yet. 153 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:07,080 And you won't see it in the comprehensive plan itself. Because then it's too tough to change. This is 154 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:12,360 a very detailed Excel sheets that we produced in concert with staff. And this is what's going to drive 155 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,400 ongoing discussions. We'll get to that in a second. So another key part of every concept 156 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:23,720 that comprehensive plan is looking at future land use. The future land use strategy for Fox Lake 157 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:30,200 Illinois, Antioch, Zion. Very different than the village of Palatine. So the future land use strategy, 158 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,800 you'll see a numerator here. When you think about land that is susceptible to change, what's going to 159 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,280 change in the lifetime of this plan, 10 or 15 years? Not all the residential neighborhoods? 160 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:45,240 I ain't going anywhere. Those are established. And some of the commercial corridors, 161 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,480 pretty well built out. There aren't open farm fields. They're going to be like, well, what's this 162 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:57,480 going to be? So this land use strategy for a lower growth community like Palatine focuses on specific parts 163 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:03,080 and areas and properties that are susceptible to change. When that's different for a really high growth 164 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:08,920 community like maybe on the border of Madison or Milwaukee or in different parts of Illinois that are 165 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:14,680 growing really fast. And then the commercial corridors, I mentioned that, and look at that last 166 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:21,080 one, the opportunity sites. We worked very closely with staff to identify a number of sites around town 167 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,200 that are susceptible to change and could be built out in a way that would further goals established 168 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:33,240 in the plan, especially related to housing. The end result of the future land use discussion is a map 169 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,720 for the whole community. I do really encourage you to pull that out of the plan and look at that. 170 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,000 You can bet the plan commission, especially. We'll be looking at that. But also this broadcast 171 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,360 of the development community. What is the village? I was a city planner for 20 years. And the first 172 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:54,840 question you get, what is a city want here? What is a village want here? And it's like, well, this is what we want. 173 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:00,360 You know, I'm not going to tell a developer how to invest $28 million somebody else's money. 174 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,500 But I can say this is what our community envisions in the southwest part of town that was just the next. This is what we envision. 175 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:15,000 That's the best way to broadcast and have transparency at the leadership level about what the village's vision is for growth in powertime. 176 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,000 I think we're a little laggy here. Let's give it a sec. 177 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Because you know how it is, I click it again and it's going to go there. I'm learning. 178 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,000 So this is a map of the opportunity sites I mentioned. 179 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,000 You know, think about all these established single-family neighborhoods, down by Fremped, up by Palitain High School. 180 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,000 They're not transitioning in the next 10 to 15 years. The lifetime of this plan. 181 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:43,000 But there are properties where change is more likely and can happen. 182 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,000 And so what we did as part of the comp plan is put together a site. 183 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Here's what could happen. Now what will, it's not prescriptive. But again, when these sites are, they're going to be up for a redevelopment in a sooner timeframe, nearer timeframe, then a lot of other parts of the village. 184 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:04,000 So in a development group, property owner says, what do you guys want here? 185 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Well, let's look at our comprehensive land. We have an idea of what we want. 186 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 So do look into the plan because there are a lot of these. 187 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,000 There's one full one or two or several for each opportunity site. And I'm really excited about these. 188 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:24,000 This one thing, the Lakota group does better than I think most other firms is visualization like this. 189 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:30,000 And so especially the site that's down in the southwest corner by medieval times. 190 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,000 Some really neat progressive ideas for that. A couple of infill sites, one or two on Quentin. 191 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Really definitely worth looking at. So I don't include them all in this presentation. 192 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:47,000 This is the only one. But you'll see how they really, how they can be transformed to contribute and new and really exciting ways to the village. 193 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,000 My last slide. I wanted to close with ways to use. What do you, what do you do in the past things down? 194 00:16:52,000 --> 00:17:02,000 You know, if you all went, when you all vote, I to approve the ordinance, what then? You know, this doesn't just, and one thing I do want to hit, I'll let you read those you guys can read. 195 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:11,000 This doesn't just fall on the planning department. You know, hey Mike, where are we at on this? This is a team led thing and especially with you all on the council. 196 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:23,000 I hope you will all be champions of this comprehensive plan. Keep it in the back of your mind. It is meant to inform future policy decisions, future investment capital planning. 197 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:35,000 And so, you know, an annual or regular review. I think is a great idea. Just have it on the agenda every September. I don't know, or buy it by annually. 198 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:41,000 Hey, where are we at with this? What's an update? I would encourage you to just keep your thumb on the pulse of this plan. 199 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Because again, it's great. I know my team and I are very proud of it. 200 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,000 So those conclude my comments, Mr. Mayor. I'm happy to answer any questions. 201 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 All right. Any questions at this time? 202 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:59,000 I actually just had a couple comments, questions. One of them, I think that has come up before is, you have the comprehensive plan. 203 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,000 They do look at an area and says, oh, this is what you're going to do or you're going to be able to annex this. 204 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:12,000 And I know that one of the parcels on there, we're not able to annex because, you know, of the regulations that we have regarding it. 205 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,000 I didn't know if staff could speak to that. It would be the one at Quentin and D. 206 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Because we have forced preserved, which is on Incorporter on one side, as well as the other side is also on Incorporated. 207 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,000 I think for that property specifically, although it's not incorporated. 208 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:36,000 It's a butts the village on two sides. And I think we've already been contacted over the years by multiple developers because the challenge there is utilities. 209 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,000 It's like, even though it's not in the village, it's like, if it were to develop it would be in the village. 210 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:47,000 So that's one given some of the past inquiries. We're at least kind of putting something out there for people to look at to say, okay, this is what the village thinks might be appropriate. 211 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:53,000 But they still have to go through a process. But yes, there's, I think that might be the only instance where we looked at something and incorporated. 212 00:18:53,000 --> 00:19:00,000 But it's really just because of the proximity to the village and the likelihood that anything that would go there would need to come into the village. 213 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:14,000 And keep in mind as well that our planning jurisdiction extends a mile and a half outside of our municipal boundaries. So it would be important and appropriate to look at other properties even if the possibility of annexation is remote. 214 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:22,000 There still could be parceling together of of these lots to possibly achieve continuity in the future. 215 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:29,000 But we would most likely be the voluntary annexation with the development agreement. I know we've had some proposals in the past. 216 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:36,000 And we just want to make sure that whatever comes in as you know with the infrastructure as well as what the impact is on schools. 217 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,000 You know, traffic, police, and fire response as well. 218 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:51,000 I appreciate everybody's input on it. I did have one other comment and just because of some of the things I've done in the past with environmental. 219 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Studies and things like that. 220 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:02,000 One of the challenges I see is we're always have this propensity to put high density right on highways. 221 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:09,000 And of course by doing that you also increase the negative health effect dramatically by being that close. 222 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 You always want to be at least 300 feet. 223 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:21,000 His better 600 is ideal but you know just like I said from doing studies cancer risk studies things like that. 224 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:27,000 I just am always concerned when you're always pushing high density in an area that could have negative health effects. 225 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Again, it's just great point. 226 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Something to think about in the future. 227 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,000 I just wanted to commend you. 228 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:43,000 I do have one question but this is the first one of these that I've participated in or been a councilman for. 229 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:52,000 And in the thoroughness and the involvement of the community that you guys helped help staff develop was awesome. 230 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,000 It's a great roadmap. 231 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Yeah. 232 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:06,000 My question to you is there's kind of this mediocre football team that may be moving to a neighboring town of ours. 233 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Can you talk about how you may have considered that in your plan? 234 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:17,000 I think the given the how up in the air that has been it wasn't a driving force. 235 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:24,000 But the the key way we did let's see if I can effectively move back to the map of opportunity sites. 236 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:32,000 We looked at the southeast corner is it in two ways one the southeast corner of a Palatine is of course. 237 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:40,000 You know I do it is that what would be impacted most Northwest Highway coming in let's see if it does switch here. 238 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000 And so we looked so you can see there. 239 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,000 Palatine starts well down to and to the lower right. 240 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Nice work. 241 00:21:49,000 --> 00:22:00,000 But we didn't you know Palatine starts there but that area net neighborhood is in established single family area and residential and then it gets light industrial doesn't present as a gateway. 242 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:07,000 And so we looked at that opportunity site you can see the orange that that that might can read just circle does not circle anymore. 243 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,000 Thank you we looked at that as a gateway property in the Palatine. 244 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Thinking that that's where an increase in traffic might occur. 245 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:22,000 We also looked at the repurposing of that whole area as an entertainment node. 246 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:33,000 An entertainment and a dining a dining an entertainment node as opposed to the office use and single single story commercial that it's in now office and some other things. 247 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:40,000 So that's that's that's really how we approach that. 248 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Media occurs right by the way. 249 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Yeah the questions are the committee. 250 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Okay it's ready when the audience here in this matter like to come forward at this time provide any comments. 251 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Questions. 252 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,000 I believe we're ready for a vote. 253 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,000 All those in favor please say five by saying aye. 254 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,000 All right. 255 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,000 There's a vote aye. 256 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,000 Opposed. 257 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,000 The answer tonight's consent calendar anything that are as submitted. 258 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Seeing none this committee's adjourned. 259 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:16,000 This time I like to call the world the police policy and code services committee we have five items on tonight's public agenda. 260 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:23,000 The first of which is to consider motion granting approvals including waiver of the sound amplification ordinance and traffic controls for the St. 261 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Victoria's Greek Orthodox Church Greek fast event on June 20th through the 22nd at 133 South Rosalron district one do I have a motion. 262 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Approved. 263 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 We have a motion a second. 264 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Thank you. 265 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:43,000 This is very consistent with the last several years I'd like to commend the representatives from St. 266 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Harris for really working with village staff on this. 267 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,000 When we have some feedback they take it seriously incorporated into the plans but this will be very similar to the past years. 268 00:23:51,000 --> 00:24:00,000 The traffic flows have really been evolved over the years to take away the impact you would have in this surrounding area. 269 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Recommending your approval they've had the issue or the event without really any issues complaints or anything like that. 270 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,000 And I believe representatives are here if you have questions. 271 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Questions of the committee. 272 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Anybody in the audience does not spend the same day they'd like to come up and speak. 273 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,000 It's up to you if you want to say anything about the event. 274 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 We just need your name and address for the record please. 275 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:27,000 George Ryan it used to be in the Palton on Crystal Lake 3098 meandering way. 276 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:43,000 I am in the parish council for the church I'm also part of the festival organization team and I just want to thank the village and staff for their partnership throughout the years that really helped us to make this a success. 277 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Not just for our organization but thank for the community as well. 278 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000 I know doubt that everybody looks forward to it every year and it is a great job. 279 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 So thank you for bringing it to the community. 280 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,000 We're welcome. 281 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Thank you. 282 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Can you repeat your last name? 283 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,000 My last name is Wenditz that's R.E.I.M. and I.T.Z. 284 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 First name is George. 285 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Thank you. 286 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Thank you. 287 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000 I'll see you on the right vote. 288 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000 All those in favor please signify by saying hi. 289 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Hi. 290 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Thank you. 291 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000 I'm going to vote. 292 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000 I'll be on tonight's consent agenda. 293 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Our second item is concerned ordinance. 294 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000 I'm ending chapter three. 295 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000 I'll call it beverages of the Palton code of ordinances. 296 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Motion. 297 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,000 So moved. 298 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Second. 299 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000 Motion. 300 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Second. 301 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000 Then. 302 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Let's imagine. 303 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000 I'll start with this and then I'll take the next component of it. 304 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Right now we have a seasonal beer and wine license that was primarily designed for downtown. 305 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,000 It was Dorios that had originally asked about the possibility of getting that. 306 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 It was created but they've never moved forward with it. 307 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000 We now have an establishment up on R.E.M. 308 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Roadmorek's chocolates that does go to an outdoor dining and they've asked about doing this. 309 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:49,000 So we've needed to propose the amendment that's before you tonight that would give the flexibility. 310 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,000 So that in the establishment outside the downtown could do it with the proper approvals in place. 311 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000 That's the G1. 312 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,000 The other issue that we've brought forward is for our temporary liquor licenses. 313 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 We have a number of not for profits. 314 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Usually churches or maybe another governmental entity the senior center that will have more than one. 315 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 And sometimes planning for them if they hit, especially in the summer we only have one meeting in July. 316 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000 It gets difficult for the timing. 317 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,000 So what we've brought forward tonight is a proposal that after they would get their first event approved, 318 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,000 we can administratively approve up to three additional. 319 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,000 So that they can have their temporary events without having to time it through this cycle. 320 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000 But you would have first approval each year if we ever have a problem with them. 321 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,000 I have the right to then force them back into the council as opposed to doing it administratively. 322 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:36,000 So I think both of these are user friendly and look forward to any discussion and approval. 323 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Perfect. 324 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,000 That's what we're supposed to be. 325 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000 So it would be the first approval each year. 326 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Right. 327 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Just not one right. 328 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Yeah, I'll use St. Thomas is a good example. 329 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,000 You'll see veto here two or three times a year. 330 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,000 So he would come forward the first time if they know all their events and get approval otherwise. 331 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 The subsequent ones could be donated in administrative level. 332 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Questions in the committee? 333 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Anybody in the audience that's trying to see me? 334 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000 Did you want to test? 335 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Did you want to test? 336 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,000 We're right about all those in favor of this year. 337 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,000 If I was saying hi. 338 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Hi. 339 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Hi. 340 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000 Karen also votes. 341 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,000 I doubt the advice consent agenda. 342 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 The next time comes to us in two parts. 343 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000 It's 1890 Northland Road Part A. 344 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Concern ordinance granting especially used for a restaurant with liquor service at 1890 Northland Road. 345 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,000 And part B is considering ordinance increasing the number of class 21 seasonal beer and line liquor licenses by one. 346 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,000 For Mark's chocolate located 1890 Northland Road. 347 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Can I have a motion for parts A and B please? 348 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Motion approved A and B. 349 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000 I can. 350 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Thank you within the umbrella of the liquor license. 351 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Just just being approved. 352 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Mark's chocolate is before you this evening. 353 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,000 Seeing a special use. 354 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,000 A category even though it's accessory to the really use which is candy store would characterize this as a restaurant. 355 00:27:52,000 --> 00:28:00,000 As you can see on the over at the existing outdoor patio which they constructed through a building permit. 356 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 It's approximately eight hours square feet. 357 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,000 And that presently I've said patrons participate in sampling the goods that are available. 358 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:13,000 The request is to seek a seasonal liquor license and a company special use. 359 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,000 So operation they're requesting to to have it operate in a summer months. 360 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Basically, July through August from the hours of three to eight PM. 361 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,000 I would note that there's approximately existing seating for 30 that are out there. 362 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000 Further submitted business plan. 363 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:32,000 I'm making some amendments to the menu offerings and working with administration on the regulations components. 364 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 To adhere to those requirements. 365 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:39,000 There would be two employees that would service the outdoor area during those seasonal months. 366 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000 From the planning and zoning commission review. 367 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 They held a public hearing and unanimously recommended. 368 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000 It's approval and staff will concur. 369 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,000 Thank you. 370 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Thank you. 371 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Anybody in the audience in this family seat? 372 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000 If you want to come up and talk about the addition at all. 373 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 It's up to you. 374 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 We need to come up. 375 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000 That'd be great. 376 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 Can we get your name and address for the record please? 377 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000 My name is Rhonda Dean D.E. H.N. 378 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000 I'm owner of Marcus Chocchus. 379 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 It has been for 30 some years. 380 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000 I don't remember how long. 381 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Address of the store. 382 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000 We have a date. 383 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 It looks like a fantastic addition. 384 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 You plan to start right away. 385 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 This first year because there's a lot of little things I have to do. 386 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Change to organize. 387 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,000 It would be July. 388 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000 I'm targeting July right after the fourth. 389 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,000 But then in the future I'd like to be June. 390 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,000 I August. 391 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000 Perfect. 392 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Well, thank you for all of this. 393 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000 You're done for the village. 394 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000 Less 30 years in parts of Spain. 395 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000 All the events. 396 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000 Investing in your business and the towns. 397 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,000 We appreciate that. 398 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Thank you. 399 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Just a little side note. 400 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,000 This pronounced. 401 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Sorry. 402 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000 No, it's okay. 403 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000 Everyone knows that. 404 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000 I said, I don't care how you call it. 405 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,000 Just as long as you come in and chat there. 406 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Thank you. 407 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Thank you. 408 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000 Any other questions? 409 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Anybody else in the audience? 410 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Seeing none right about it. 411 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000 All is unfair. 412 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:23,500 terms, amendment also votes, aye, the aliancens, consent agenda. Our fourth item is consent ordinance, and ending chapter 11, licenses, business regulations of the codenor belts has been related fees, other bill of depalitine. I did, attas, a little caveat in it to prove the fees that it will also as requested by staff, it's going to show up on our consent agenda, but if I could please have a motion. Motion to prove. 413 00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:33,500 Thank you, as you'll recall, I was here in February talking about potential changes to our temporary food establishment process. 414 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:43,500 So what we're proposing is to keep the current regulations where temporary food permits are issued to food vendors that are participating in a special event. 415 00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:51,500 This doesn't allow someone to just drive a truck around town. This allows them to participate in something at the high school or something at the park district, something along those lines. 416 00:30:51,500 --> 00:31:02,500 What we don't have right now in our code are any corresponding fees. So what we're proposing is to set up, I'll walk through quick, one we're proposing to set up some fees for temporary food permits. 417 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:09,500 And then the couple are related or unrelated, but food code related issues are. 418 00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:14,500 As you recall, when we were talking, there was a new food code that was adopted that went into effect January 1st. 419 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:19,500 And that code includes the ability for variants from the food code. 420 00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:28,500 That is something that can be approved by staff and then there's also special processes that the code also contemplates, but to do them, you have to provide a very specific plan. 421 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:43,500 And so both of those are things that our environmental health staff can handle, but there's also some time involved. So what we're also asking is to allow for those types of procedures, but also have a corresponding fee that somebody would need to pay to cover the staff time to review them. 422 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:51,500 Because it can require quite a bit of research or other analysis, so we're really just looking to cover our costs that somebody wants to pursue those. 423 00:31:51,500 --> 00:32:02,500 So kind of jumping ahead to break down here, what's just proposing is temporary food establishment permit for someone who is a Palestine based business. 424 00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:11,500 We're suggesting only a fee of $25, whether they do one of any year or five events a year, they would pay $25 because we're already paying for their business license. 425 00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,500 So this just covers some of the additional costs. 426 00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:20,500 If someone is not a Palestine based business, we're suggesting a $75 fee for a one time event or a $150 fee. 427 00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:24,500 That would allow you to do multiple events over a 12 month period. 428 00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:30,500 And these would be 12 months from whenever they got their permits. So this isn't an annual license, but somebody gets one in July. 429 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:38,500 They would have, you know, through the next July. So from that perspective, I know there was a question before about what other fees of a community's charge. 430 00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:46,500 And this is kind of a gray area that we can't it's hard to find apples to apples comparison. So we kind of looked at our fees to cover our costs. 431 00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:51,500 And then also how they compare to the permanent food establishment fees, which are summarized at the top of the screen here. 432 00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:59,500 So, and then the only other related fee we're looking at is there's a reinspection fee for health inspections that's kind of buried in the code. 433 00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:05,500 We're looking to put it in the fee schedule. That's the singly we handle reinspection for the rental licenses or for building permits. 434 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:11,500 So those are the, there's the code amendments that go with them and then they associated changes to the fee schedule. 435 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:14,500 So I can answer any questions. 436 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:21,500 I would just say Mike for the two temporary ones, just put after it, 9, Pelotine license. 437 00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:27,500 Yes, just to clarify. Yes. 438 00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:31,500 Anybody in the I answer this evening? 439 00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:34,500 I'm ready about all those in favor, please sing to five by sing I. 440 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,500 I, everyone also votes either. I'll be on tonight's consent agenda. 441 00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:41,500 And our final I am today is a presentation of the video gaming establishments. 442 00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:44,240 If I could just frame a quickly Mr. Manager, I'll hand it right over to you because I know 443 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,240 you have some slides. 444 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,920 When we approved video gaming maybe two and a half years ago, and really wondering what 445 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,120 was going to happen because we didn't know. 446 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,000 We didn't have ordinances built for it, and I know Brian, I see Brian's here, and it 447 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,840 was a concern from the borrowers of, hey, we need to be able to compete, and we need to be able 448 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,840 to keep our establishments open, and we need this funding source to go forward. 449 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,960 And there was a lot of trepidation as we went into it because we didn't know what was coming 450 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,960 to town. 451 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,440 I'm happy to say two and a half years later as we look back, there have been a few 452 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,080 with any issues that have been caused by video gambling within the village of Palatine. 453 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,380 Certainly, I've not heard of complain. 454 00:34:17,380 --> 00:34:22,000 I think that's the credit of our borrowers and the establishments and how they run that, and 455 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,000 how they've incorporated into their business plans and how they incorporated it without being 456 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,640 intrusive to their patrons. 457 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,880 And again, I've never had a complaint. 458 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,000 I don't know if other people have, but I think in general, we've had very few. 459 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,640 So I want to give the business owners credit for that. 460 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:41,400 The other caveat to what we're hoping for is allow the businesses to be more competitive 461 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,480 to make more money, and then have that be reinvested into some of the establishments and to 462 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,520 increase the outside of it and increase the inside. 463 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,920 There's just how nice it could be, have better mechanicals, maybe, bathroom upgrades. 464 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,640 Whatever it might be that this, the location would need going forward. 465 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,880 And we fully understand that that can't be done in an instant. 466 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,680 The money didn't show up in a lump sum and the first day that they got their license approved. 467 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,160 And it's been a process in planning that out. 468 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,000 So what we're hoping to do with this is really come back and say, OK, one, one, congratulations 469 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,360 on the success of the program. 470 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,000 Because I think it's been well received by the community. 471 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,760 It's been well handled by our borrowers, but two, also looking at what the investments are. 472 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,960 And even if there's not an investment that's been made, this tangible today, what's it look like in 473 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,960 the future? 474 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,960 Are the funds there? 475 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,960 The things can be done that just that people have been saving for a rainy day or are trying 476 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,400 to accumulate funds for. 477 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,800 So we're looking to hear that second half of what took place with the program. 478 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,320 And I'd finally put on it. 479 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,640 Any feedback that the owners have, you guys see a day and a day out, we don't. 480 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:52,120 But Brian certainly, you guys have the same type of establishments in different towns. 481 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,240 Maybe they do things better than we do, and if we could get that feedback, that helps us be 482 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,240 better. 483 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:57,240 And so that's what we're looking for. 484 00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:01,680 The dialogue, it says it meant to be a common front of us and we're going to scream in 485 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,680 the hollow. 486 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,680 And nothing like that. 487 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:09,080 It's all been positive so far today, so we want to make sure that everybody understands that. 488 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,200 And look forward to what we're going to hear in the next three weeks, as this unfolds we'll 489 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,080 have three to four weeks, we'll be hearing from all the different people with the establishment 490 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,080 licenses. 491 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,280 Coming out of that, what do we hope to gain? 492 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,280 We hope to get smarter. 493 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,800 Frankly, that's what we hope for. 494 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,360 We hope to hear how it's going on on the operators from their point of view. 495 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,600 We want to hear about investments that are going to be made, how can we help us 496 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,600 have some of those things? 497 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,520 We're also doing a lot of investing in the downtown in different areas of town, whether it's 498 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,560 a tiff district or the facade programs at Northwest Highway, wherever that is. 499 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,280 So we have a big investment going in too, where we're putting the dollars to work, that we do 500 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,280 get from the programs. 501 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,320 We want to see, there's other areas we can invest in that makes sense with some of the investments 502 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,680 that are coming from the owners themselves. 503 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:58,280 And then finally, as we look at it, is this step back to say, hey, is it time to say 11? 504 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,680 It's not a cap anymore. 505 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,400 Now, we went through the sunset process, we didn't take it away. 506 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,400 But now we're 11 licenses, should we be going to open it up everywhere? 507 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,760 Or should we be saying, oh, it's really good where it is today? 508 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,480 And those are the things that we hope to gain and clean as we go through the process as the 509 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,480 council. 510 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,760 So I just wanted to frame that before we get too far into it. 511 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,160 Did anybody on the council on anything else to add? 512 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,160 Mr. Manager. 513 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,160 Thank you. 514 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,440 And I'm going to kind of follow and we're, you left off with that. 515 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,960 So it was just over three years ago. 516 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:35,000 I believe it was February, March of 2022, where the village council did decide to try video gaming. 517 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,960 It was done originally on a two-year pilot basis starting with the 2022-23 license here. 518 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,360 Some establishments were up and running as early as August of 2022. 519 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,400 Others didn't come online until about this time in 2023. 520 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,560 With it being a two-year period with no guarantee, it was going to go beyond that. 521 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,600 I know as I've had discussions with all of the established owners, some of them were very reluctant 522 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,360 early on to start making a lot of reinvestment in their property, because they didn't know 523 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,960 what the future of gaming would be. 524 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,520 There were minor things that could be done. 525 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,360 Some of them had much bigger plans and visions that they wanted to know it was going to be here 526 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,600 to stay before they did that. 527 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,000 So at the council's request, we have reached out to all the 11 establishments that have a video 528 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,400 gaming license to ask them all to pick a date between this week, next week, and then the 12th 529 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,640 and 19th of May. 530 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,400 That will get all the establishments through the process. 531 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,560 From where Councilman Lamaran indicated, it would be my intention that after all 11 go 532 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,360 and we have their feedback, your feedback, we would come back sometime in June or maybe the July 533 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,800 meeting and have a follow-up discussion where we can talk about things learn, changes we might 534 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,880 want to make or any input like that. 535 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,920 So after we take it all in, I just want to provide some high-level overview before I get into 536 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,920 the establishments. 537 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,920 I'll do this once. 538 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,200 We can repeat it when the others come forward, but this is for you and we can move forward 539 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,920 with it. 540 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,920 The way the state statute works, there is a split of the profits that come out of it. 541 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,920 Roughly 33% goes to the establishment, that would be the borrowners. 542 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,680 33% goes to the terminal operators, so those that own the terminals that are putting it in there 543 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,880 and monitoring them, maintaining them, et cetera. 544 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:20,160 The state takes 29% of the money that's generated from it and the remaining 5% goes to the municipality. 545 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,560 So we have our own local enforcement, our own administration, we get 5% of what comes 546 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,560 out of it. 547 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:32,760 When I look at where they go, and since August of 22, understanding some have been online 548 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,360 for coming up on full three years, some have only been online for about two years. 549 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,960 The terminal operators and the establishment to cumulatively have made about $3 million, the 550 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:50,200 state $2.7 million, the village $470,000, since August of 2022. 551 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,080 The establishment breakdown, we have one that has now topped half a million dollars. 552 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,640 We have another one that just got above $100,000, so you can see there's a wide spread of 553 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,160 dollars coming in to all the different establishments that are out there. 554 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,000 I just want to go back for a second on this, because when we did do the reach out to the establishments, 555 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,040 a couple of them said, well, you want to hear from us what we did, we want to know what the village 556 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,040 is doing. 557 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,120 And Councilman Lamar, and you talked a little bit about the investment that we're making in the community, 558 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,360 one of the other things that we did is part of the most recent budget process is we created 559 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,200 a community engagement and planning division in the police department. 560 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,000 That's a $2.3 million division. 561 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Some of it was transferring current costs into it, but we also had just short of $400,000 worth 562 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,560 of new personnel that we brought in. 563 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:40,120 This is the division that oversees the liquor licensing, the video gaming, the adult use cannabis, 564 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,080 some of those other things within the community. 565 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,520 This is also the one that is better integrating our social work out there. 566 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,920 We're doing more community engagement. 567 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,560 We're going to have a national might out for the first time this year. 568 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,000 We are using the dollars that we have collected through this to reinvest back in our community. 569 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,800 That was important to the village council that if there's going to be dollars coming in from 570 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,040 this, that these are dollars that we can tangibly show where they're going and that we're making 571 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,440 the community a better place. 572 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,720 So, by and large, beyond some economic development efforts, we're really focusing this into the 573 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:12,160 new community engagement and planning division that the council approved is part of the 2025 budget 574 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,440 and intended to do so going forward. 575 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:20,800 We get just over $200,000 a year, so it's not even covering a half of the new cost of that 576 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,480 division, let alone the full cost of the division, so we're supplementing it with other 577 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,880 dollars, but that's where we continue to put the dollars in. 578 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,280 So, the community as a whole has been fitting whether you've ever put a dollar into one of the 579 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,440 machines or not, there's still a benefit coming back to everybody else within the community. 580 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,640 So with that, tonight you have your first three establishments coming forward. 581 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,880 We've tried to schedule three per night. 582 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,360 Councilman Lamaryan will have the first two times and then Councilman Ms. Linsky, because 583 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,360 of the committee rotation, gets the other. 584 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,680 I don't know if you're better off coming in the first half or the second half, but that remains 585 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,680 to be seen. 586 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:57,560 This evening, we do have gators with us, and then we have shells and donkey end, shells 587 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,520 and donkey end are under the same common ownership, so that we can have one discussion. 588 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:08,320 So I will start with gators, gators, who's one of the last two get approved by the state of Illinois, 589 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,480 even though they were one of the first to submit an application to the state for whatever 590 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,400 reason the state took longer there, so they did not come online until February of 2023. 591 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,800 It was a slow ramp up, as you can see by the chart in front of you, to date they have had 592 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,960 about $197,000 coming in and they're gaming. 593 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,560 I know they provided some information that I forwarded to the council with some of the investment 594 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,840 they've been making, and I just want to comment and they'll get into more detail. 595 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,240 But again, some of the investment that you're seeing was not investment that was absolutely 596 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,160 required, was ways the business said I can be more competitive. 597 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,840 I can do a better job by buying something now that even if it didn't need replacing it was 598 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,800 going to make me a better establishment for it. 599 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,200 So I think you're going to hear some stories like that, all three establishments tonight 600 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,400 do have some good positive that they can come forward with. 601 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,640 So with that, I'd like to have Neil, who is the owner of Gators, come forward. 602 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:01,120 Now I will butcher his last name, so he can give you his last name as he comes up, so we'll start 603 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,880 with Gators, and then we will jump over and two snails and donkey in. 604 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:09,280 So Neil, it's good evening, Neil Jalkover, I know it's kind of like it's spelled, but 605 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,480 it's difficult to, it's been butcher going back. 606 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,400 My father's going to be 91, he was butchered too. 607 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,500 So we could just spell it for the clerk. 608 00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:26,300 JOL, COVER, Jalkover, New York, New York. 609 00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:28,760 Is the address of the establishment good enough? 610 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,760 That's fine. 611 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,800 The floor is yours. 612 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:43,680 Read pretty much, said just out everything, I tried to provide a document that showed some 613 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,640 of the things we did. 614 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:53,320 We had a late start and then a slow start, but we immediately, immediately, did a couple 615 00:43:53,320 --> 00:44:01,280 things, sealed coding our parking lot, and replacing all of our seating in our dining room 616 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:08,060 with which, I know I put on the form here that it was about $69,000, but a time we were 617 00:44:08,060 --> 00:44:14,120 done with the cost of delivery, etc., it was really more about $8,300. 618 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:21,000 For that, I've replaced a lot of kitchen equipment, these are all, everything I listed 619 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:27,280 here, if you have copies of it, was unnecessary things, things I did not, we did not need 620 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,280 to do. 621 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:38,000 I did not need to do these things, replacing friars, replacing ovens, replacing stove, it was 622 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:44,680 often more efficient equipment, so we could produce our product in a better way, a faster 623 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:53,840 way, finding a way to make 15,000 wings on Super Bowl Sloan Day is quite a challenge, so just 624 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:59,960 things like that, that you can't do in the old days, but the efficiency of the equipment. 625 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:12,000 This really, really important. So we did a lot of that patio tent. That was a COVID thing, but we've 626 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:21,000 continued to do it because of the video gaming. That is a $3,000 plus a month expense. We have 627 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:28,000 a permit in again for that. And we do it for four months. And you know, we think it's great. 628 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:35,000 It's a good visual when people are driving down the road. It looks great. And you know, people notice 629 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:40,000 the business, even though we're on ran road, and a lot of cars drive by. I think that's really, really important. 630 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:48,000 So, you know, in the end, everything we've done here for the two years, we're looking at about $50,000. 631 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:58,000 We do the math. We've put about 25% of what we've gotten from the video gaming back in. 632 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:08,000 So, and then, you know, you got to figure another 25% of that goes to Uncle Sam. So, you know, so, we feel we've 633 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:15,000 done, you know, what we were asked to do. And if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have. 634 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:20,000 Have you found that it was, it made you more competitive, because you're up north. 635 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,000 And some of the communities up there were getting gaming and close by you. Did you think before 636 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,000 gaming was approved, you were losing some customers to that and were able to gain them back? 637 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:38,000 You know, yeah, for all of you that know, gators, I mean, we've got a product that brings people in from all over. 638 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:46,000 So, I do see a lot of new customers. I see people that come in. They spend time in the restaurant or in the bar area. 639 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:56,000 And then, you know, see the games go over and play them. I also see people just walk in and just head directly to that area in the back end of 640 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:03,000 our, of our bar, you know, and go directly to the games. So, I think it really is kind of a whole. 641 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:12,000 I think I think it's, you know, we're family restaurant as well. So, we don't see all these people, you know, 642 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:18,000 filling up our dining room with their kids and then coming over to the other side. 643 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:26,000 I think I think people sitting in the bar sitting in the bar area, which I bar in bar area, you know, seats 100 people. So, you know, 644 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:34,000 I think it's a great visual. It looks really nice and clean or set up for it. I think turned out really better than we expected it to. 645 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,000 So, yeah, yeah, thanks. 646 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,000 Any other questions or something? You're constantly listening. 647 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000 Yeah. 648 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,000 Neil, I think you're an example of what we were, we were hoping what happened. 649 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,000 Thank you, Doug. 650 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:54,000 Even before, you know, the video game was passed. You always, you always were committed to keeping things up there and keeping things nice. 651 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,000 You know, it's always a pleasure to go in there and see. Thank you. 652 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:05,000 And I think one of the biggest, my question is one of the biggest fears that we had was, you know, the family style restaurants. 653 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:13,000 We're families going to walk in and be repulsed by seeing the video gaming and never, never to enter your place again. 654 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:18,000 Tell us, is that happened to you? Because you are a true family, right? 655 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,000 Not at all. Not at all. 656 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,000 More kids, more families, more hi-chairs every day out. 657 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:28,000 You know, I mean, it's really, it hasn't affected anything at all. People are not repulsed by it. 658 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:36,000 I think people see it in so many places that there, you know, there's just not, you know, there's nothing to be afraid of. 659 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:45,000 And, you know, every establishment has a different set up. You know, for us, you know, you know, you walk in our place. 660 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,000 You go to this side and this dining room and you go to the other side and it's the bar. 661 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:57,000 And, you know, it's kind of hidden behind a wall at the back end. They're visible, which I think is great. 662 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:05,000 And, you know, maybe there's people that see that and come back another time, you know, so I think it's, I think it's been pretty good. 663 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:13,000 It's started off kind of slow. We've talked about that before. You know, and, you know, I might have thought it would be better. 664 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:29,000 Then it really is, but it's consistent, you know, consistent. So, yeah, we're, you know, I think we're, we're pleased with it. But it does, you know, with the inflation, you know, just the, the cost of doing business in general employee costs are higher. 665 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,000 I definitely think it's, it's, you know, it's help. 666 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,000 So. 667 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,000 Thank you. 668 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,000 Thank you. 669 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,000 Thanks Neil. I think Doug said it great. It's, this is what we're looking for. 670 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,000 Thank you. 671 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:49,000 I think he mentioned it. And I think we all kind of forget that Uncle Sam takes a good chunk of this money as well too. 672 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,000 So when we look at that, you know, look at a money, you know, a big part of the test day right now. 673 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,000 Yeah. 674 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,000 Yeah. 675 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,000 Yeah. 676 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,000 You know, my accountant was like, don't forget about video game. 677 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,000 I'm like. 678 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:05,000 Do you also see, and I think you mentioned it, that this a little bit in flux helps you bridge with the inflation, 679 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:11,000 the employee costs retention. I mean, you don't see that as physical, you know, tangible improvements, 680 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,000 but it's got to help you in that manner as well. 681 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,000 Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. You know, it takes the edge off a little bit. 682 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000 Yeah. 683 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:24,000 Yeah. Because that's been difficult, like since COVID, you know, I mean, some places didn't make it through COVID, you know. 684 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,000 And, you know, we're one of the places that closed down for nine or ten months. 685 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,000 You know, we didn't, we didn't reopen in this, when you all said, well, you can open if you want. 686 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:39,000 We didn't do that. You know, we waited till, you know, till we could fully open to fully open our place. 687 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:49,000 So, you know, you know, but, but again, it's, I think it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a family restaurant to clean place. 688 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:56,000 You know, we, we keep it up, we keep it up a specific way and we, we like to do that. 689 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,000 So, you know, it's been fine. 690 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,000 It's been good, but we're, we're pleased with, with how it's going. 691 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:10,000 I think each area, each place, you know, sometimes you're like, how can that place be doing that much business? 692 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:18,000 But it's, it's, again, we have a lot of families coming in. So, it's a, it's a different, it's a different type of place. 693 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,000 You know, there could be a little bit of this big that's doing double what I'm doing. 694 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:28,000 But it's more about what's directly around it, I think than, than anything else, you know. 695 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:40,000 So, great first two years, what do you, what do you see is, what do you, what would you like to do next or what do you see? 696 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:46,000 Well, I think we're just going to continue, you know, doing things, you know, whether it's upgrades. 697 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,000 You know, like I said, we did the chairs immediately. 698 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:56,000 But, you know, the seal coating, the painting, I got a seal coat come in Memorial Day weekend. 699 00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:04,000 You know, we, you know, I think there's, there's other things, you know, we would always like to do. 700 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:09,000 Whether it's, you know, purchasing new patio furniture, things like that. 701 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:21,000 So, you know, those are things that, I think, Dave and I would just normally do, because that's how we run our business. 702 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:28,000 But, you know, we're able to pull the trigger a lot faster, you know, you know, because of the video gaming. 703 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:34,000 You know, we're able to do some of these things that maybe we wouldn't have been able to do as quickly. 704 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,000 Maybe we would have said, well, let's do it next year, let's do it the year after that. 705 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:45,000 You know, so I definitely think it's helped to have it, you know, and we have it any issues. 706 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:53,000 I don't recall hearing about any issues through all the places the restaurants that have video gaming. 707 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,000 I know that was a concern when we were first coming up in these meetings. 708 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:03,000 But, you know, there's, there hasn't been any incidents, there's zero, zero. 709 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,000 So, so we're pleased about that too, because you don't know. 710 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:15,000 And we're still open kind of late and, you know, we don't see, we don't see anything different as far as that type of go. 711 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,000 So, that's what we're talking about. 712 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,000 Thanks, Neil. 713 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000 Yeah, just great. Congratulations. 714 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,000 Thank you. 715 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:29,000 You know, from just a general question about, I know you compete with some of these other businesses that have wings and, you know, 716 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,000 other restaurants down the street, what have you. 717 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,000 Right. 718 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:41,000 Do you consult with these other businesses that come up with ideas and how to bring new customers in the doors and regards to you? 719 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:47,000 Uh, to come in through the doors for the gaming or just to come in through our restaurant. 720 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,000 General, I guess both. 721 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,000 Not really. 722 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,000 Not really. 723 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,000 I think we just, you know, my partner and I consult with each other. 724 00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:02,000 You know, we've done, I mean, we've been in 1996, we're coming up on 30 years, 25 and Palatine. 725 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:07,000 So, um, you know, we just keep doing our thing. 726 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,000 Yeah, yeah, we really don't consult with other people. 727 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,000 Um, we think our recipes okay. 728 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,000 So, we, yeah. 729 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,000 We're not looking to fix it. 730 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,000 We can get you a food truck permit for $25. 731 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,000 No, I know. 732 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,000 Yeah, we're, we're like, I know. 733 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:33,000 We, um, we think about that, you know, maybe in, in years past, we, you know, we would bite on that stuff. 734 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,000 But no, I don't think I'm looking for a food truck. 735 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,000 No, no. 736 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,000 No. 737 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,000 No. 738 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,000 There's lots. 739 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,000 Yeah, I think, um, I think a count of three times Neil said, it's helped. 740 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,000 I think that's important to understand that this is not. 741 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:53,000 At no point did gators switch to a video gaming and then, oh, by the way, we have wings. 742 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,000 And it does all along, that's kind of what we envision. 743 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,000 What this would be an enhancement to your business. 744 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,000 Right. 745 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:04,000 And then we would reinvest to the quick return friars or to the seal coding or to the tent. 746 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,000 That's how we envisioned it. 747 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,000 And, you know, there's a method of the madness. 748 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,000 There's a reason you're standing here and, and, and, uh, and, uh, uh, uh, 749 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,000 Donkey, it'll be coming up next and snails. 750 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,000 And we have a couple of establishments, a few establishments that have done it the right way. 751 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,000 And we want to set the bar kind of how this is supposed to look, how we envisioned it. 752 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000 You know, when it was all set and done. 753 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,000 And for you to say that, you know, it's helped. 754 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,000 It's, no point did you say it's saved us. 755 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,000 It was, you know, because you had a strong business to start with. 756 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,000 Right. 757 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,000 And then this has just become an as a soil part of your business and enhancement. 758 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,000 It's over here. 759 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,000 It's people want it great. 760 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,000 You know, we were, we have one of the most strict ordinances there is with regards to 761 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,000 video game. 762 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,000 We know big flags out there. 763 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,000 No, we won $6 million in this property in the last six months. 764 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,000 There is none of that. 765 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,000 And it's done by design because this is something that it's here. 766 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,000 And only way you're going to know what's here is if you walk in the restaurant and turn 767 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000 to the right and see it over in the corner. 768 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,000 Right. 769 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,000 That's how it is. 770 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,000 That's, that's why we appreciate this back and forth. 771 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,000 Thank you. 772 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,000 Thank you for coming in. 773 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,000 Thank you very much, Mayor. 774 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,000 Appreciate it. 775 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,000 Great. 776 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,000 Thank you. 777 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,000 Thank you. 778 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,000 Thank you. 779 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,000 Thank you so much. 780 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,000 So the next one we have Brian Schnell here. 781 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,000 He and his brother are the owners of Schnells, which is in the downtown area. 782 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,000 And then they also on the donkey end. 783 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:23,000 So Schnells was one of the earlier ones with November of 2022 coming online. 784 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,000 You can see what their profits have been. 785 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,000 Obviously, this is gross as Neil pointed out. 786 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,000 The government takes a nice chunk of it. 787 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,000 And then I'm just going to jump ahead real quickly, donkey end as well. 788 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,000 Similar, a little bit higher numbers than Schnells. 789 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,000 They came online about two months earlier than Schnells. 790 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,000 So again, Brian Schnell on behalf of both of them. 791 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,000 And I will, which logo do you want to play? 792 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,000 You talk to your Brian. 793 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,000 I'll put the Schnells logo on yourself. 794 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,000 Thank you. 795 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,000 Thank you. 796 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,000 Thank you for having me, gentlemen. 797 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,000 And lady. 798 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,000 Ma'am. 799 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,000 I'd like to start out with Schnells. 800 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,000 I don't want to repeat too much, but it has helped. 801 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:07,000 With our established businesses, I feel like we're still succeed without it. 802 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:15,000 But it does help with the right since COVID, the rising food cost, rising wages, everything. 803 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,000 So it kind of, it does help offset. 804 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,000 Let's see. 805 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:26,000 Just to start out, for Brawh House, with the help of the video gaming, 806 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,000 we have been able to put a new signage on our building. 807 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,000 I believe it was last summer. 808 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:38,000 We just recently replaced two AC units, which are very, very expensive. 809 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,000 Replaced all our seating in there. 810 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,000 I forgot how many 30 something chairs I'll, you know. 811 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:52,000 We were able to purchase the building as of last week, which was that definitely helped us doing that. 812 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:59,000 And it becomes with four units, which we'd like to, we already had plans of improving the outside, 813 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:05,000 paying necessary improvements, beautify the building itself for the downtown location. 814 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,000 It's a great location. 815 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,000 The village of Palatine has been great to us to our businesses. 816 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000 Schnells, we've been there. 817 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,000 I believe it's just past 10 years. 818 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,000 Donkey in, little over 18, from the phone correct. 819 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,000 We also have future improvements with the purchase of the building of Schnells. 820 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,000 Where we have the gaming, I personally don't like it. 821 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,000 Like to move, where we have the spot, unit next door. 822 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,000 So we have plans to move that neck, the games next door have a little private room. 823 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,000 Get our dining room back to normal. 824 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,000 Let's see. 825 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:44,000 We do have plans to redo all the flooring inside, which is not, it's all hardwood floors. 826 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:51,000 So we do, I mean, we plan on investing more into the building itself as in all four units. 827 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:55,000 To keep everyone successful in beautiful building for the downtown area. 828 00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:01,000 And I know you guys are talking about improving the walkway, which would be amazing, which I'm very happy about. 829 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,000 Any questions about browse? 830 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:11,000 Yep, is the move to try to get the video gaming away from the bar? 831 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000 Or is it just to get more seating? 832 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,000 So I want to get the more seating in our dining room. 833 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:23,000 So we had our normal dining room, and we kind of squeeze them in there, and it's kind of uncomfortable. 834 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,000 So I'd like to put them in a separate enclosed room. 835 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,000 I'm not sure if you're familiar with Donkey, but we have like a tinted glass. 836 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,000 We'd like to do something like that and kind of set them off to the sides of the way. 837 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,000 And we get our dining room back and we have a normal seating. 838 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,000 We do have a good dining business there. 839 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,000 So we'd like to get our normal seating and make comfortable for the customers. 840 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,000 It's kind of awkward location right now where they're at. 841 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,000 I think you buried the leave here. You bought the building. 842 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,000 Yes. 843 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000 I mean, congratulations. 844 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,000 Thank you very much. 845 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,000 So that's, I mean, that's what we're trying to save up for that. 846 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,360 We plan on staying there for, right? I mean, I don't know that there's going to be a better example 847 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:16,680 of using of funds by a building. That's outstanding. And I guess the question then comes as far 848 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:23,800 as procedure, how you run your business, how your business plan. Did you see a downtick in dining 849 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:33,680 when you got gaming because you lost seats? I don't think, I wouldn't say no. I mean, our numbers 850 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:41,720 are still very, very good. And I think too, during COVID, the outdoor seating helped a lot. That kind 851 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:47,800 of offset things. After COVID, once we did get the games, we still have our outdoor seating. So, 852 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:54,280 sometimes it's got a nice, so that balances the missing tables we have inside. Inside, 853 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:59,240 it does back up in the winter time. So, that's why I'd like to get the seating back and the dining 854 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:04,840 room back to normal. And we could have, we do have parties there. So, we'd better offer parties more space 855 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:10,440 because it's kind of a snug place to begin with. So, congratulations. Thank you very much. 856 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,800 That's not a cause. That's the piggyback. That's great. By an building, it's going to be hard to top that. 857 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:22,840 But you'd said it's four units? Yes. Yes. So, we occupy currently, we occupy two. Nelson group is the other 858 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:29,960 one and others of Akin spot. I believe it's 37 in the Slaze Street. One of you going to turn into the gaming room? 859 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:38,040 Well, we have to work with a village and plan it. But we want to kind of just make an inlet. Maybe a 12 foot 860 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:44,760 wide, maybe a ton of foot deep inlet. And then try to maybe utilize that space and rent it out 861 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:51,880 or lease it. So, the other they can one right now. We'd like to just go in there clean up. We just 862 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:58,120 literally just closed on it last Wednesday. So, my plan on this week going in there, making a list, 863 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:04,760 a honeydew list of everything that needs to be repaired, fixed anything. And then just try to lease it out 864 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:13,800 to somebody that could bring good business to the village. So, in stay long. So, free track. 865 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:24,440 So, thank you. All right, onto the donkey. All right, onto the donkey. So, as for the donkey, 866 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:30,280 we have the ways located. We have it at a separate room, nice to neglect and off to the side. 867 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:36,680 Um, nobody really knows. I mean, it's kind of, it's almost as if it's like a golden tier at 868 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,120 a dark board. It's come so common that people walk in, you know, and even notice that they're there. 869 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,320 Usually it's more of a form of entertainment. I see people all the time sitting at the bar. 870 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,120 You know, they'll have a couple of drinks. He breakfast go play a few games. Come back. It's, you know, 871 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,280 so there are people that sneak in, sneak out, you know, very quiet. But you don't really notice that 872 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:59,800 and they don't bother anybody. It's, I've had more headaches with the liquor than gaming. So, 873 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:06,360 I've had no headaches with the gaming, but, um, as far as improvements, we actually, I want to say 874 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:12,040 within the last few years, I forgive me if my time is off. But we were able to replace the roof on the 875 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:18,600 building. Um, we had a fence blowdown to that repair. I drive away ceiling this year. I plan on doing 876 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:25,880 it with the building itself needs a whole new paint job. Um, I actually, I've been wanting to do this for a while, 877 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:32,600 but I just did take some money. I would like to add on, because every year, I take down and put up the fence 878 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:39,000 myself and I'm doing that for the last 18 years. It's a lot of work. So, I'd like to, in turn, put up potentially 879 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:46,680 permanent patio out there, maybe covered some sort of permanent patio to increase maybe for parties in the 880 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:52,680 wintertime if we can close it or, I just have ideas, but it's kind of in the beginning stages of that. 881 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,840 But that's not going to be cheap expense either, and to make it, since we are on Plum Grove Road and 882 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:07,400 make it look fairly nice and desirable to our neighbors. Um, the interior, I mean, it's an old building, 883 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:13,880 so it's a constantly maintenance and everything. Um, the floor, wood floors, again, those needs 884 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:20,440 resealing as well and taking care of, so in time I would like to retile the bathrooms and improve the 885 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:27,080 bathrooms. And so I mean, there's multiple thing, you know, in future investments for the property there. 886 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:35,080 Like again, we plan on staying there forever too, so we definitely would like to invest into the building and 887 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:43,880 beautify it and so, and eventually new signage. Um, so yeah, so any questions regarding donkey? 888 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:53,240 Go ahead, Councilor. Yeah, this kind of applies to both. Um, as far as staffing goes, did you find that you could, 889 01:04:53,240 --> 01:05:00,040 you know, maybe add some staff where you needed, um, staff or employee retention or anything like that, 890 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:07,080 did it, did it help at all with with that? I mean, the employee wages have gone up, 891 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:11,720 so I mean, it does help kitchen staff, especially if it's COVID, I mean, everything's gone up, so it, 892 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:19,960 it does help offset that. Um, but like I said, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's a nice addition. 893 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:27,240 So, you know, I'm making improvements and do all that stuff and, um, without it, yes, we could 894 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,280 survive without it, you know what I mean? But it is, it is very nice to have. 895 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:37,160 Without that, I don't know if we'd be with shells, I don't know if we've been able to purchase the building or do anything like that, 896 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:43,640 so it's very happy. And then even with donkey, we'd like to, you know, in future, keep making improvements and 897 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:50,440 try to keep it a nice, nice establishment for everybody. But no, as far as I'm going on behind the scenes, I know. 898 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:57,000 So, it's, yeah, there's a whole part. So it has helped offset wages and because they have been rising every year. 899 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:02,680 So, um, as far as cooking staff or, you know, the weight staff, so, sure. 900 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:12,680 No, one question, Brian, it's a little off topic, but if you're opinion on it, you're closest to a cafe in 901 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:18,600 Sally's, it really matters, which is a half mile away, right? Different customers completely, 902 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:24,440 go into a Sally's versus play at the donkey, or do people use them both the same way? I don't really 903 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,440 especially have an answer for it, honestly, I'm just looking for your opinion. No, I only know, because we have, 904 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:33,240 we have an establishment in the stream, would. And I've seen cars come from us and go down to the 905 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:39,000 Sally's next door, you know, they just kind of do a thing hop and I don't have to try to get better luck at 906 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:51,560 another establishment. Yeah. Yeah, you know what, I don't think, I think it's a different clientele. 907 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,680 Like, we're more family, family of staff, you know, family you've re-entated. 908 01:06:55,640 --> 01:07:01,000 Snell and donkey. Like I said, I think people just do, they just bounce them about, you know, 909 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:08,120 try their luck. And I don't think it's taken away, but I think in the beginning it, it was right 910 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:14,280 down the street, so people could go there. I don't think it took away business for us, but it, it 911 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,040 is a nice form of entertainment. I've seen people, they sit there, they drink, they stay longer, 912 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,880 because they will gamble, or they win, and they'll put money back in, and they stay longer to eat, 913 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:30,760 drink, so it is helpful. You're not getting shady people, if you will. It's not like one of those situations. 914 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:37,720 So, I've only, my experience, it's been people form of entertainment, they do stay longer, 915 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:43,000 it helps our business, so I mean, in general, so. Right. That's great. Oh, that's what 916 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:47,240 guys are asking. Just a quick question. And probably staff, I don't want to open a can of worms, 917 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:52,280 but you do a great job every day updating your signage, which are specials and stuff, 918 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:57,720 but because of the residential feel, he can never get a electronic message board there, right? 919 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:04,280 Our upgrade to it. I'd like to say no, he couldn't, but it would also maybe be a policy issue 920 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:09,000 of the council, so we do have established corridors where we would allow electronic message boards, 921 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:14,760 this is not not one of them right there. Every day, it's updated. I don't know how time you guys will. 922 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,000 We know, I mean, the electronic thing, we're not really, we like the old school. I mean, the guys, 923 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:24,440 we have, our guys do it every night after the kitchen closes, so it's, I just amazed that it was always 924 01:08:24,440 --> 01:08:29,000 changing. They're out there. I mean, it's no big deal. I mean, if it's real bad, we don't, you know, 925 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:34,600 they keep them inside. No, they do good. I mean, those guys are on top of it. It might be spelled wrong 926 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:41,960 once in a while. Otherwise, you do a great job. That's what else? You know, you mentioned something, 927 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:47,160 and it was, you find them staying a little longer, spending a little more, what have you. 928 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:52,120 That was another big concern of ours was wallet share. You know, how much someone has in 929 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:57,160 a pocket and would it go in the machines and would it affect you negatively? They wouldn't have 930 01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:02,200 them money for the extra bear or the burger or what have you. You haven't seen that at all. I don't think so, 931 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:08,440 no. I mean, the people that go in there are very quiet. They slide in, they slide out. You know, it's kind of, 932 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:15,240 like, you really don't know. I mean, it's kind of just another dining experience, but they're in front of 933 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:21,480 the machine. That's, you know, that's obviously, okay. It didn't pull your regular customers away. 934 01:09:21,480 --> 01:09:26,440 I don't think so. Okay. I haven't heard any negative feedback from any of those customers and I usually would 935 01:09:26,440 --> 01:09:32,680 hear it right away. Steph did look at it. I think 10 out of the 11 video gaming establishments have 936 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:38,680 had record food and beverage sales post COVID after video gaming came on, so we haven't seen that. 937 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,080 And their percent increases in food and beverage are really in line with what we've seen with the 938 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,640 non-video gaming. So I don't think there's been any evidence that we've seen where it's taken away 939 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:52,440 from the regular food and dining. It's just been something extra that has been done while people have 940 01:09:52,440 --> 01:09:56,600 been at the establishment. Or like Brian said, some people might sneak in and sneak out and never 941 01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,920 have spent money anyhow on the rest of it. So we haven't seen any evidence whatsoever. 942 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:08,360 A quick follow up to that. You know, if you add all four different towers, it's like 10 million dollars 943 01:10:08,440 --> 01:10:17,560 over the last two and a half years. If let's say that's a captured fund and the average 944 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:23,880 tax or food is not decreasing. Are you able from, I mean, it's got to be taking it from somewhere. 945 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:29,240 10 million dollars just didn't appear out of the air. You know, we don't get see tax returns and stuff. 946 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:35,320 But have you seen something from a macro economics to the village? I think we were very late to the 947 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,880 game and doing video gaming. A lot of talents had had it for a number of years. You saw some of 948 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:44,360 these establishments coming forward year after you're asking for it. So I think what you've probably seen 949 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,600 more of is just a shift of where the dollars, maybe they were doing something at the assembly and 950 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:53,400 Hoffman estates or maybe they were somewhere in Shomer or Rolling Meadows and now they're a little 951 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:59,080 bit closer to Homer or establishment. They were otherwise add. So we've not seen it drop off anywhere else. 952 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:05,080 I think it's by and large either been a shift or some people just have decided to spend some 953 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,840 money on this so they weren't otherwise doing. 954 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,800 If I could add two, I think you mentioned something about like other talents how they 955 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:23,400 ran into it. We have two businesses and two other towns and it's basically similar matches up with what 956 01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:28,120 you guys are doing. We have a business on a document. They require it because I believe it's 957 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,840 a document when I'm a kind of a county but we have to have curtains blocking the room because it's 958 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:38,440 a family establishment. Stream wood, we have it in a separate kind of little nuts. It kind of 959 01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:45,400 works out perfect but again, no headaches in those towns. Same thing. It's kind of off to the side. They 960 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:52,840 come in for entertainment. That's all. Just keeps them one longer and so I've had out of the four 961 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:59,480 establishments with poker we have. I haven't had one headache from the video poker so that's great. 962 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,680 Thank you. Thank you. Oh, you're welcome. No thank you for having me. Do you guys have any other questions or 963 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:11,880 I'd be happy to share. Good. All right. Thank you very much for your time. No Mr. Shomer we do have three 964 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,880 next week. I just want to thank these three because we made it a voluntary sign up for the 965 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:22,200 date you picked and these three jumped on being first. I think there was a lot of hesitancy by some 966 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:29,640 establishments but these three establishments, they have a good story to tell. I don't know why Brian 967 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:34,280 buried it but buying the building and the adjacent tenant spaces using these dollars. I think that's 968 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,840 really what the council wanted to see is somebody reinvesting not only in their business but in the surrounding 969 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:43,720 area as well. So we will have three more establishments coming to you next week and then we'll be back at this 970 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:51,160 of May 12. I think a lot of the owners are going to watch tonight's video. Figure out what it you know because it was 971 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:58,520 example. Great. Welcome up and say they bought a building. I'm not going to buy it. That's it. That's why. Anyway thank you 972 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,040 guys for doing that. Is there anybody in the audience who had a comment to add to the discussion at all? 973 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:09,160 Perfect. And if there's nothing else submitted, we send it during thank you. I'd like to call the order 974 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,720 of this evening's infrastructure and environment committee. We have one item on our agenda this evening. 975 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:21,640 This item is to consider a motion to award a contract for the 2025 sewer rehabilitation program. Is there a motion to 976 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:28,040 approve? Motion to approve. Second. Is there any? How this year's sewer rehabilitation consists of 977 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:32,360 sliplining about one mile of sewer. We have competitively built this project. We're recommending a 978 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:36,600 word of contract to the low-bitter hair construction. That's within budget and less than the amount 979 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:48,680 estimated. Anyone in the audience in this matter? Seeing none all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. 980 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:56,680 Both aye as well. Motion passes. This will be on tonight's consent agenda. Anything else? 981 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:04,840 I'd like to cut order to the business finance and budget committee. We have one item on tonight's 982 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:10,520 agenda and that is to consider an ordinance reserving volume cap and connection with the private activity bond 983 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:22,520 issues in related matters. Thank you. So this is a program that we've consistently allocated or dollars to. 984 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:27,960 In essence, we have dollars available if there was a large manufacturing expansion taking place in 985 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:32,840 town. They would have the ability to go issue bonds at what would be the equivalent of tax exempt rate. 986 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,920 Seeing none of that, we have choices of either giving the money back to the state, let the state do with it as they 987 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:42,520 see fit or we can allocate it into other programs identified that neither criteria. We've worked a number of years. 988 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,920 I really threw the town a normal that coordinates it but this is a mortgage assistance program so it helps people 989 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,920 looking to buy their first home, get different mortgage credits to bring down the 990 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,680 or help with the affordability of it. So this is one of several programs that are out there. 991 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:59,880 The one thing I will note is that in working with the vendors, a lot of the mortgage. 992 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,000 Users, there are some in the Chicago area more in Central Illinois. We've asked them to work on expanding their network and better marketing up in this area. 993 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:12,000 Well, we have had a number of properties within Palatine take advantage we'd like to get the word out of you. 994 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:22,000 Yes, that was my question. We were talking earlier. How does one get notified that this is even available? Is that through the lender or through the re-leader or how does that happen? 995 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,000 So a number of realtors know about it and they'll tell their clients about it. 996 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:32,000 Mortgage lenders that participate in the program will have it and market it to them because it's their advantage doing this. 997 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:39,000 The state of Illinois, also has a number not only this program but other mortgage programs that are available to residents within the state. 998 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:43,000 So it's out there and then we have some information available through ours as well. 999 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:47,000 So some of it's word of mouth, some of it is just people seeking it out. 1000 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:54,000 You know, I think the unfortunate part is some of the real estate professionals don't take the time or effort to try to identify these things and guide their people to it. 1001 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,000 They just want that next sale and they move on. So it's a combination of things. 1002 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:06,000 You know, we're doing what we can to try to get the word out as well. I know we've brought it up at some of the resident advisory meetings that we've had and put other articles in our newsletters. 1003 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,000 That's a lot of money. If we ever fully utilize the whole amount of money gets spent. 1004 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:16,000 When we put it in the pool, you might have one year where more money is being spent, you know, 1005 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:22,000 Arlington Heights is part of it or the town of normal the city of Peoria. Another year you might have more spent up in the suburban area. 1006 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:27,000 So it all varies as to where it goes because it's going into a large pool for that. 1007 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:31,000 Thank you. Any other questions from the committee? 1008 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,000 Is there anybody in the audience on this? 1009 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:39,000 I knew. And we are ready for vote all those. And favor please signify by saying aye. 1010 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,000 High-F Boris Post Chairman also the signed, there's free put on tonight's consent agenda. 1011 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,000 Does anybody have anything under Ass Vous submit it? 1012 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,000 Seeing Tham abuse standing there. 1013 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,000 This time I'll like to call to where the administration technology community health committee. 1014 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:59,000 There's nothing on the public agenda this evening, is anyone there intime to foreigner? 1015 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:05,000 All the order of fire policy and community information committee, we have nothing on tonight's agendas, or anything else related. 1016 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,000 Seeing that as a committee's adjourned. 1017 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,000 With that, I would need a motion to reconvene the council meeting. 1018 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,000 So moved. 1019 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,000 Motion and seconded all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. 1020 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,000 Aye. 1021 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,000 Opposed by the scene, we have an amended consent agenda. 1022 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:24,000 Item number one was remanded back the staff, so we needed a motion to approve items two through twelve. 1023 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,000 Motion approved items two through twelve of the consent agenda with waiver. 1024 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,000 Seconded. 1025 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,000 Motion, we have a second. Madam Clerk, will you to roll call, please. 1026 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,000 Councilman Lamarin. 1027 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,000 Councilman. 1028 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,000 Councilman. 1029 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,000 Melar. 1030 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,000 Aye. 1031 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,000 Councilman Kuzowski. 1032 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,000 Aye. 1033 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,000 Councilman Falkenberg. 1034 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,000 Aye. 1035 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,000 Councilman Helms. 1036 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,000 Aye. 1037 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,000 Councilman Rizinski. 1038 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:48,000 Aye. 1039 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,000 Content agenda passed. 1040 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,000 Thank you. 1041 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,000 Your report statement committee administration, 1042 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,000 Technology and Community Health Committee, Councilman Helms chairman. 1043 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,000 I'm a host of members. 1044 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,000 This is fine. 1045 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,000 It's a budget committee, Councilman. 1046 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,000 Ms. Lensky, for the last time. 1047 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,000 I went for Mr. Mayor. 1048 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,000 I can now. 1049 01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,000 Development Committee Councilman Melar Chairman. 1050 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:04,000 Yes, we had one item referred back that was considering an ordinance granting a minor plan 1051 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:09,000 development amendment to allow a revised business plan and floor plan at 16-orthboth. 1052 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:13,000 Well, and that was referred back to staff with the unanimous approval of the council. 1053 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,000 We did a formal vote on this, Mr. Chair. 1054 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,000 No, because the action is at the committee. 1055 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,000 Sounds good. 1056 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,000 So, once my report. 1057 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,000 All right. 1058 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,000 Fire policy and Community Information Committee Councilman Kuzowski chairman. 1059 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,000 No report, Mr. Mayor. 1060 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,000 Section Vime Committee Councilman, Fallon Berg Chairman. 1061 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,000 No further report, Mr. Mayor. 1062 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,000 Please policy and code. 1063 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,000 Service Committee Councilman Lambert Chairman. 1064 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,000 No report, Mr. Mayor. 1065 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,000 I'm a report. 1066 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,000 Your village officer reported those manager. 1067 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,000 I reported sir. 1068 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,000 The report of our village clerk. 1069 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,000 And the report. 1070 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,000 Thank you. 1071 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,000 The report of our village attorney. 1072 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,000 No report in our request or close session. 1073 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,000 Thank you, sir. 1074 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,000 Anybody in the audience is even interested to come forward on an item that was not on the published agenda. 1075 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,000 Please come forward at this time. 1076 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,000 Seeing none with that, we need a motion to adjourn. 1077 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,000 So moved. 1078 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:49,000 Second. 1079 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,000 Motion and second to the allows and favor. 1080 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,000 Please see if I may say aye. 1081 01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,000 Aye. 1082 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,000 All right. 1083 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,000 We're adjourned. 1084 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,000 All right. 1085 01:18:55,000 --> 01:19:02,000 This time I'd like to call to order the Palatine liquor commission from Monday, April 14th, 1086 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,000 2025 Madam Clerk will you please call the roll. 1087 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,000 Commissioner Schlaun. 1088 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,000 Here. 1089 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,000 Commissioner Malar. 1090 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,000 Here. 1091 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:10,000 Commissioner Lamran. 1092 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,000 Here. 1093 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,000 Commissioner Mazinski. 1094 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,000 Commissioner Falkenberg. 1095 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,000 Here. 1096 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,000 Commissioner Kuzowski. 1097 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,000 Here. 1098 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,000 All right. 1099 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:22,000 First up is even the motion to approve the liquor commission minutes from March 10th, 2025. 1100 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,000 Second. 1101 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,000 Motion and second. 1102 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,000 Allows and favor. 1103 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,000 Please sing the five by saying aye. 1104 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,000 Aye. 1105 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,000 Opposed? 1106 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,000 All right. 1107 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,000 We just have two items on the agenda. 1108 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,000 The evening. 1109 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,000 First we're asked to consider a motion granting a class e-taper to liquor license for the 1110 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,000 Saint Nick Taryl's Greek Orthodox Church annual Greek fest. 1111 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,000 To be held on June 20th to the 22nd. 1112 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,000 2025. 1113 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,000 This will be at one 33 South Rose on Road. 1114 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,000 Okay. 1115 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,000 Motion. 1116 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,000 Second. 1117 01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,000 Motion. 1118 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,000 Second. 1119 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,000 Second. 1120 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,640 Anybody in the audience was to offer any testimony? Seeing none all those in favor please signify by saying aye 1121 01:19:55,200 --> 01:20:00,080 I oppose next we're asked to consider an application for a class G1 1122 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:07,320 Restaurant seasonal beer and wine liquor license for mocus chocolates located at 1890 North ram road 1123 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,320 Okay, motion 1124 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,240 It's like a motion a second any discussion from the commission 1125 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:19,240 Staff anything anybody in the audience seeing none all those in favor of peace signify by saying aye 1126 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,120 I post and with that I need a motion to adjourn liquor commission 1127 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,440 Second motion in second dollars in favor of please signify by saying aye