All the public voting.
Monday, April 14th, 2025, battle clerk, will you please call the roll.
Mayors wants to.
Councillor Mellar.
Here.
Councillor Mellar.
Councillor Misson Schee.
Councillor Muffin, Councillor Fawkember.
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Councillor Misson Schee.
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Councillor Misson Schee.
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What are your plans to join me in the touch of allegiance?
All the United States of America.
I'm kidding.
So the first up, Stephen the Emotion, improved the minutes of the regular village council meeting and committee of the home meeting of April 7c 2025?
Motion to approve.
Second.
second all those in favor please signify by saying aye. Opposed. All right, I might report the
CV got a few things. First up, we're going to ask to consider resolution re-appointing members
to various village boards and commissions. Can I have a motion? So moved. Motion is seconded. Is there
anybody in the audience from any of our boards and commissions that's here this evening? I just want
to recommend you know. All right, any discussion from the council on this? Staff anything that?
So this is boards and commissions that are kind of the backbone of what we do. They're volunteers who spend
their time, their energy, their talents helping the village. And it's something that we value,
something that is extremely important to like to what we do gain and day out. So for those individuals,
that's have stepped up throughout the years. Thank you very much. It's our annual opportunity to thank you.
And with that, there's a motion. The second, all those in favor please signify by saying aye.
Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, next we're asked to consider a motion concurring with
the mayor's village council committee assignments. Is there a motion? Motion to approve.
Second. There's a motion. There's a second. Any discussion from the council staff anything on this?
Anybody in the audience? All's from his last chance to take a victory lap?
Now, this is one of the best days of the year. We have all the budgets to come in next week before it rotates,
so don't want to say who's going to, this is really going to stick his chest out and say,
I got his debt free. All right. All right. So there's a motion to second. All those in favor,
please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Just and then just a quick couple quick announcements.
Saturday at the 19th from 10 a.m. until 2 p.m. Clean and green. Electronics recycling event.
S&C Electric Company is hosting this. Saturday at the 19th from 9 a.m. until noon, the Palatine
winter farmers market. I believe this is the last winter market. Is that correct?
Is that me start to summer the next summer is here. Excellent. 50 50 sidewalk replacement
program public works is accepting applications on a first come first serve basis.
Please call public works for more information on that. And finally April is safe digging month.
Call Julie before any digging project that's eight one one any time to submit your request. And with that,
I'll end my report and seek a motion to recess to committee of the whole. So moved.
Second. The motion to second all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.
Aye. Opposed? All right. We are now committee of the whole first out this evening. Community
and economic development committee. Councilman Mallard Chairman. I'd like to open the Community
Economic Development Committee. We have two items on the published agenda. First is to consider
ordinance granting a minor plan development amendment to allow a revised business plan and floor
plan at 16 north bath well. And we're going to refer this back to staff. Could have an
motion to refer this back to staff. So moved. Thank you. Question.
All those in favor please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed?
Do you have to first take what's on the agenda and hear that first? Make an amendment?
No, I mean you can make the motion upfront to refer back. I just declare a file on that. I think the
issue was with some of these changes you'd like to talk about these in conjunction with
their discussion about the video gaming. Is that because we have all those establishments coming
forward? So I just want to have that clarity. So I can talk to the business owner and let them know
what they would be doing. I'm sure they're on the schedule. So we'll be seeing them up here.
Set some point in time and then maybe we schedule it for after that.
Currently not on the schedule, right? Currently they're the one establishment that's not set a date in front
of the the village council specifically for video gaming. So if you want to do them in conjunction,
I'll reach out to you for a minute. Yeah, let's do that.
Vote for that or are you fine with that the original motion? Yeah, I'm fine with the original motion. I just
wanted that clarity and then we'll remove this from the consent agenda later this evening.
Next up is considering ordinance adapting the new comprehensive plan for the village of Palatine.
Motion to approve. Second. I want to take just a minute to give a little background. I'm going
to turn over to Andy Cross from the Lakota group who helped us throughout this process.
As you may recall, the update to the complaint really started in earnest in early 2023.
And I just want to kind of highlight the community involvement that's taken place throughout the process.
So it started with interviews with various village departments, also interviews with all of you.
Then we established some stakeholder meeting groups, which include the government partners,
business members, residents and students, the students were from Fremden Palatine High Schools.
There were also people from the local real estate and development world.
Then there was a steering community that was formed. It included residents, business owners, the chair of the
Planning and Zoning Commission. We also had representatives from the Historical Society, District 15, and District 2111.
And then lastly, as a reminder, there were also two open houses, one in September of 23 and June of 24
that provide an opportunity for public input and also in conjunction with those with a bunch of information available online.
So people couldn't attend those events. They could review the materials. They could provide comments and input.
So it's been a very exhaustive, an inclusive process to get to where we are tonight.
And I know Andy, lastly, I'll say the steering committee and the Planning is only commissioned
of both recommended approval, the complaint, and Andy's going to run through a presentation of the
CFing. So I'm turning over to him.
Well, thank you very much, Mike. Now Mr. Mayor, members of the council.
It's a pleasure to be here again. I think we had a chance to speak some months ago
when this plan was getting there. I think it was, you know, we're still in phase two, just finishing up that last
last part of phase two. And so this is a very exciting time that the plan is over the finish line, just so
very exciting. And so it's my intent to just sort of introduce you to the finished product. So that when you look at it,
leaf through it, you're going to have an idea. Oh, that's what Andy talked about at the meeting.
So this was a three phase process. And as Mike said, this has been going on for about two years.
And that's about average 18 months is kind of a kind of normal. So, you know, between scheduling
and summer things, pulling the steering committee meeting together. These plans can stretch out over
a period of months beyond that. So two years is perfectly normal and in the wheelhouse.
We started with phase one. And that is really learning about the community and the really the end
result of that is a state of the village report worth reading if you haven't. And that is a document that is
approved by the steering committee because really before you can charge the path forward, there needs to be a shared
understanding of where you're starting from. What are the key issues? What are the key concerns? Here's what we're
going to address moving forward. Everybody needs to agree on that. That way, you know, shared expectations.
Phase two is where we start looking at solutions, strategies, recommendations. We test the waters.
A plan like this, not only is it community led and community driven, but it's also iterative. We didn't just as
planners say, okay, we got all the answers. We're going to write the plan now. We came up with some ideas,
presented them at a workshop, walked through them. Some were, you know, the steering committee and the
public said, wait a minute, no, that's not how we think we can approach this in Palatine. So we tweak it,
revise it, move forward. And that, again, iterative process. And once we have this planning framework put together
and recognize issues and concerns, shared set of solutions to explore, then we move on to phase three,
where we write the comprehensive plan itself. I touched on the public engagement, but check out these
stats. We're awfully proud of this. This community really got involved. Hundreds and hundreds of
responses to the online survey. And the open houses, and we had wonderful stakeholder group staff that
had a great job of pulling focus groups together from various communities, you know, business owners,
downtown, residents, seniors, we met with high school students. So we just had a lot of great conversations
that really helped inform both phase one and phase two of this plan. I won't certainly won't read
this all through, but it's important to know that a key part of the comprehensive plan is the vision statement.
And I'll draw your attention to those four bullet points down there at the bottom. It's, you know,
think about those four driving points about what makes Palatine and your vision for leadership in Palatine,
especially relevant, and it's those items. Just effective, keeping the police out there,
keeping fire paid, and paying the bills, but also improving the quality of life through livability and
then economic resiliency and connectivity. So let me talk about how the plan is put together. There are
three main themes, and we'll touch on those in a second. And just one quick note, if you go back 10,
15 years, all comp plans, chapter one, housing, chapter two, transportation, chapter three,
economic development. We've really gotten away from that, not only at Lakota Group, or I've worked,
but also in the planning community because that really doesn't do a good job of appreciating how all of
those things tie into one another. You can't talk about economic development and also talk about
all infrastructure supports it, how parks and open space are part of the quality of life and
contribute to that as well. So instead of just chapterizing based on these siloed topics,
we really looped everything into what we gleaned as being key community themes. And we'll talk about
those in a second. Those then break down into a series of goals for each theme. Then we talk about
strategies to reach those goals and then specific actions. So when we talk about, well, what the
hell do you do with this thing now that it's approved? The actions. And we're going to talk about that
in a second. Because we are committed to giving communities a really, really usable, actionable plans.
This isn't just a shelf space. So these are the big themes right there. The built environment, you can
see what that means right there. Certainly, it's land use. You're from really, we're land use discussions.
I'm sure they're on every agenda. Same as paying for infrastructure and connectivity. And then
economic economy and growth. And that doesn't mean just revitalizing the downtown. It's much
broader than that. And think about the key commercial corridors in Palatine. And that's where we
pay a special attention to those. And a lot of great discussions and recommendations and building off
Mike's team's previous work for some of the commercial corridors. And then quality of life items
really under community and neighborhoods. So I talked about the different levels. We have the goals there
on the left for each of the community themes. And then the strategies to approach each one of
those goals. So I would, I really hope you do get a chance to leave through those. Don't try to read
the whole thing in one night. It'll kill you. But do stretch it out and look at each of those. So we'll
see them in economy and growth. And there you see for each of the corridors. And this is really paraphrased.
I really paired this down for our discussion this evening. No reason to go through it.
You're all, you know, certainly able to have access to the plan and read through it. And I really
hope you do. But then we do focus on downtown. And just more broadly, the economic base, quality of
life items and community in neighborhoods. What's the fourth one there? Housing options. So that's
as you know, they all, housing shouldn't be its own chapter. It's part of quality of life in the village.
And so many things tie into what helps make housing effective. So this is one thing I really wanted to
touch on. We provide a very detailed action matrix, implementation matrix. And so you remember the
goals. The community themes, goals, strategies. You'll see the strategies up there. And then 1.2, 2.1,
2.1, 2.1, you'll see individual actions right there. Each one has a priority level,
a cost associated with it, and a duration. What term? This is not been finalized yet.
And you won't see it in the comprehensive plan itself. Because then it's too tough to change. This is
a very detailed Excel sheets that we produced in concert with staff. And this is what's going to drive
ongoing discussions. We'll get to that in a second. So another key part of every concept
that comprehensive plan is looking at future land use. The future land use strategy for Fox Lake
Illinois, Antioch, Zion. Very different than the village of Palatine. So the future land use strategy,
you'll see a numerator here. When you think about land that is susceptible to change, what's going to
change in the lifetime of this plan, 10 or 15 years? Not all the residential neighborhoods?
I ain't going anywhere. Those are established. And some of the commercial corridors,
pretty well built out. There aren't open farm fields. They're going to be like, well, what's this
going to be? So this land use strategy for a lower growth community like Palatine focuses on specific parts
and areas and properties that are susceptible to change. When that's different for a really high growth
community like maybe on the border of Madison or Milwaukee or in different parts of Illinois that are
growing really fast. And then the commercial corridors, I mentioned that, and look at that last
one, the opportunity sites. We worked very closely with staff to identify a number of sites around town
that are susceptible to change and could be built out in a way that would further goals established
in the plan, especially related to housing. The end result of the future land use discussion is a map
for the whole community. I do really encourage you to pull that out of the plan and look at that.
You can bet the plan commission, especially. We'll be looking at that. But also this broadcast
of the development community. What is the village? I was a city planner for 20 years. And the first
question you get, what is a city want here? What is a village want here? And it's like, well, this is what we want.
You know, I'm not going to tell a developer how to invest $28 million somebody else's money.
But I can say this is what our community envisions in the southwest part of town that was just the next. This is what we envision.
That's the best way to broadcast and have transparency at the leadership level about what the village's vision is for growth in powertime.
I think we're a little laggy here. Let's give it a sec.
Because you know how it is, I click it again and it's going to go there. I'm learning.
So this is a map of the opportunity sites I mentioned.
You know, think about all these established single-family neighborhoods, down by Fremped, up by Palitain High School.
They're not transitioning in the next 10 to 15 years. The lifetime of this plan.
But there are properties where change is more likely and can happen.
And so what we did as part of the comp plan is put together a site.
Here's what could happen. Now what will, it's not prescriptive. But again, when these sites are, they're going to be up for a redevelopment in a sooner timeframe, nearer timeframe, then a lot of other parts of the village.
So in a development group, property owner says, what do you guys want here?
Well, let's look at our comprehensive land. We have an idea of what we want.
So do look into the plan because there are a lot of these.
There's one full one or two or several for each opportunity site. And I'm really excited about these.
This one thing, the Lakota group does better than I think most other firms is visualization like this.
And so especially the site that's down in the southwest corner by medieval times.
Some really neat progressive ideas for that. A couple of infill sites, one or two on Quentin.
Really definitely worth looking at. So I don't include them all in this presentation.
This is the only one. But you'll see how they really, how they can be transformed to contribute and new and really exciting ways to the village.
My last slide. I wanted to close with ways to use. What do you, what do you do in the past things down?
You know, if you all went, when you all vote, I to approve the ordinance, what then? You know, this doesn't just, and one thing I do want to hit, I'll let you read those you guys can read.
This doesn't just fall on the planning department. You know, hey Mike, where are we at on this? This is a team led thing and especially with you all on the council.
I hope you will all be champions of this comprehensive plan. Keep it in the back of your mind. It is meant to inform future policy decisions, future investment capital planning.
And so, you know, an annual or regular review. I think is a great idea. Just have it on the agenda every September. I don't know, or buy it by annually.
Hey, where are we at with this? What's an update? I would encourage you to just keep your thumb on the pulse of this plan.
Because again, it's great. I know my team and I are very proud of it.
So those conclude my comments, Mr. Mayor. I'm happy to answer any questions.
All right. Any questions at this time?
I actually just had a couple comments, questions. One of them, I think that has come up before is, you have the comprehensive plan.
They do look at an area and says, oh, this is what you're going to do or you're going to be able to annex this.
And I know that one of the parcels on there, we're not able to annex because, you know, of the regulations that we have regarding it.
I didn't know if staff could speak to that. It would be the one at Quentin and D.
Because we have forced preserved, which is on Incorporter on one side, as well as the other side is also on Incorporated.
I think for that property specifically, although it's not incorporated.
It's a butts the village on two sides. And I think we've already been contacted over the years by multiple developers because the challenge there is utilities.
It's like, even though it's not in the village, it's like, if it were to develop it would be in the village.
So that's one given some of the past inquiries. We're at least kind of putting something out there for people to look at to say, okay, this is what the village thinks might be appropriate.
But they still have to go through a process. But yes, there's, I think that might be the only instance where we looked at something and incorporated.
But it's really just because of the proximity to the village and the likelihood that anything that would go there would need to come into the village.
And keep in mind as well that our planning jurisdiction extends a mile and a half outside of our municipal boundaries. So it would be important and appropriate to look at other properties even if the possibility of annexation is remote.
There still could be parceling together of of these lots to possibly achieve continuity in the future.
But we would most likely be the voluntary annexation with the development agreement. I know we've had some proposals in the past.
And we just want to make sure that whatever comes in as you know with the infrastructure as well as what the impact is on schools.
You know, traffic, police, and fire response as well.
I appreciate everybody's input on it. I did have one other comment and just because of some of the things I've done in the past with environmental.
Studies and things like that.
One of the challenges I see is we're always have this propensity to put high density right on highways.
And of course by doing that you also increase the negative health effect dramatically by being that close.
You always want to be at least 300 feet.
His better 600 is ideal but you know just like I said from doing studies cancer risk studies things like that.
I just am always concerned when you're always pushing high density in an area that could have negative health effects.
Again, it's just great point.
Something to think about in the future.
I just wanted to commend you.
I do have one question but this is the first one of these that I've participated in or been a councilman for.
And in the thoroughness and the involvement of the community that you guys helped help staff develop was awesome.
It's a great roadmap.
Yeah.
My question to you is there's kind of this mediocre football team that may be moving to a neighboring town of ours.
Can you talk about how you may have considered that in your plan?
I think the given the how up in the air that has been it wasn't a driving force.
But the the key way we did let's see if I can effectively move back to the map of opportunity sites.
We looked at the southeast corner is it in two ways one the southeast corner of a Palatine is of course.
You know I do it is that what would be impacted most Northwest Highway coming in let's see if it does switch here.
And so we looked so you can see there.
Palatine starts well down to and to the lower right.
Nice work.
But we didn't you know Palatine starts there but that area net neighborhood is in established single family area and residential and then it gets light industrial doesn't present as a gateway.
And so we looked at that opportunity site you can see the orange that that that might can read just circle does not circle anymore.
Thank you we looked at that as a gateway property in the Palatine.
Thinking that that's where an increase in traffic might occur.
We also looked at the repurposing of that whole area as an entertainment node.
An entertainment and a dining a dining an entertainment node as opposed to the office use and single single story commercial that it's in now office and some other things.
So that's that's that's really how we approach that.
Media occurs right by the way.
Yeah the questions are the committee.
Okay it's ready when the audience here in this matter like to come forward at this time provide any comments.
Questions.
I believe we're ready for a vote.
All those in favor please say five by saying aye.
All right.
There's a vote aye.
Opposed.
The answer tonight's consent calendar anything that are as submitted.
Seeing none this committee's adjourned.
This time I like to call the world the police policy and code services committee we have five items on tonight's public agenda.
The first of which is to consider motion granting approvals including waiver of the sound amplification ordinance and traffic controls for the St.
Victoria's Greek Orthodox Church Greek fast event on June 20th through the 22nd at 133 South Rosalron district one do I have a motion.
Approved.
We have a motion a second.
Thank you.
This is very consistent with the last several years I'd like to commend the representatives from St.
Harris for really working with village staff on this.
When we have some feedback they take it seriously incorporated into the plans but this will be very similar to the past years.
The traffic flows have really been evolved over the years to take away the impact you would have in this surrounding area.
Recommending your approval they've had the issue or the event without really any issues complaints or anything like that.
And I believe representatives are here if you have questions.
Questions of the committee.
Anybody in the audience does not spend the same day they'd like to come up and speak.
It's up to you if you want to say anything about the event.
We just need your name and address for the record please.
George Ryan it used to be in the Palton on Crystal Lake 3098 meandering way.
I am in the parish council for the church I'm also part of the festival organization team and I just want to thank the village and staff for their partnership throughout the years that really helped us to make this a success.
Not just for our organization but thank for the community as well.
I know doubt that everybody looks forward to it every year and it is a great job.
So thank you for bringing it to the community.
We're welcome.
Thank you.
Can you repeat your last name?
My last name is Wenditz that's R.E.I.M. and I.T.Z.
First name is George.
Thank you.
I'll see you on the right vote.
All those in favor please signify by saying hi.
Hi.
Thank you.
I'm going to vote.
I'll be on tonight's consent agenda.
Our second item is concerned ordinance.
I'm ending chapter three.
I'll call it beverages of the Palton code of ordinances.
Motion.
So moved.
Second.
Motion.
Second.
Then.
Let's imagine.
I'll start with this and then I'll take the next component of it.
Right now we have a seasonal beer and wine license that was primarily designed for downtown.
It was Dorios that had originally asked about the possibility of getting that.
It was created but they've never moved forward with it.
We now have an establishment up on R.E.M.
Roadmorek's chocolates that does go to an outdoor dining and they've asked about doing this.
So we've needed to propose the amendment that's before you tonight that would give the flexibility.
So that in the establishment outside the downtown could do it with the proper approvals in place.
That's the G1.
The other issue that we've brought forward is for our temporary liquor licenses.
We have a number of not for profits.
Usually churches or maybe another governmental entity the senior center that will have more than one.
And sometimes planning for them if they hit, especially in the summer we only have one meeting in July.
It gets difficult for the timing.
So what we've brought forward tonight is a proposal that after they would get their first event approved,
we can administratively approve up to three additional.
So that they can have their temporary events without having to time it through this cycle.
But you would have first approval each year if we ever have a problem with them.
I have the right to then force them back into the council as opposed to doing it administratively.
So I think both of these are user friendly and look forward to any discussion and approval.
Perfect.
That's what we're supposed to be.
So it would be the first approval each year.
Right.
Just not one right.
Yeah, I'll use St. Thomas is a good example.
You'll see veto here two or three times a year.
So he would come forward the first time if they know all their events and get approval otherwise.
The subsequent ones could be donated in administrative level.
Questions in the committee?
Anybody in the audience that's trying to see me?
Did you want to test?
We're right about all those in favor of this year.
If I was saying hi.
Hi.
Karen also votes.
I doubt the advice consent agenda.
The next time comes to us in two parts.
It's 1890 Northland Road Part A.
Concern ordinance granting especially used for a restaurant with liquor service at 1890 Northland Road.
And part B is considering ordinance increasing the number of class 21 seasonal beer and line liquor licenses by one.
For Mark's chocolate located 1890 Northland Road.
Can I have a motion for parts A and B please?
Motion approved A and B.
I can.
Thank you within the umbrella of the liquor license.
Just just being approved.
Mark's chocolate is before you this evening.
Seeing a special use.
A category even though it's accessory to the really use which is candy store would characterize this as a restaurant.
As you can see on the over at the existing outdoor patio which they constructed through a building permit.
It's approximately eight hours square feet.
And that presently I've said patrons participate in sampling the goods that are available.
The request is to seek a seasonal liquor license and a company special use.
So operation they're requesting to to have it operate in a summer months.
Basically, July through August from the hours of three to eight PM.
I would note that there's approximately existing seating for 30 that are out there.
Further submitted business plan.
I'm making some amendments to the menu offerings and working with administration on the regulations components.
To adhere to those requirements.
There would be two employees that would service the outdoor area during those seasonal months.
From the planning and zoning commission review.
They held a public hearing and unanimously recommended.
It's approval and staff will concur.
Thank you.
Anybody in the audience in this family seat?
If you want to come up and talk about the addition at all.
It's up to you.
We need to come up.
That'd be great.
Can we get your name and address for the record please?
My name is Rhonda Dean D.E. H.N.
I'm owner of Marcus Chocchus.
It has been for 30 some years.
I don't remember how long.
Address of the store.
We have a date.
It looks like a fantastic addition.
You plan to start right away.
This first year because there's a lot of little things I have to do.
Change to organize.
It would be July.
I'm targeting July right after the fourth.
But then in the future I'd like to be June.
I August.
Perfect.
Well, thank you for all of this.
You're done for the village.
Less 30 years in parts of Spain.
All the events.
Investing in your business and the towns.
We appreciate that.
Thank you.
Just a little side note.
This pronounced.
Sorry.
No, it's okay.
Everyone knows that.
I said, I don't care how you call it.
Just as long as you come in and chat there.
Thank you.
Any other questions?
Anybody else in the audience?
Seeing none right about it.
All is unfair.
terms, amendment also votes, aye, the aliancens, consent agenda. Our fourth item is consent ordinance, and ending chapter 11, licenses, business regulations of the codenor belts has been related fees, other bill of depalitine. I did, attas, a little caveat in it to prove the fees that it will also as requested by staff, it's going to show up on our consent agenda, but if I could please have a motion. Motion to prove.
Thank you, as you'll recall, I was here in February talking about potential changes to our temporary food establishment process.
So what we're proposing is to keep the current regulations where temporary food permits are issued to food vendors that are participating in a special event.
This doesn't allow someone to just drive a truck around town. This allows them to participate in something at the high school or something at the park district, something along those lines.
What we don't have right now in our code are any corresponding fees. So what we're proposing is to set up, I'll walk through quick, one we're proposing to set up some fees for temporary food permits.
And then the couple are related or unrelated, but food code related issues are.
As you recall, when we were talking, there was a new food code that was adopted that went into effect January 1st.
And that code includes the ability for variants from the food code.
That is something that can be approved by staff and then there's also special processes that the code also contemplates, but to do them, you have to provide a very specific plan.
And so both of those are things that our environmental health staff can handle, but there's also some time involved. So what we're also asking is to allow for those types of procedures, but also have a corresponding fee that somebody would need to pay to cover the staff time to review them.
Because it can require quite a bit of research or other analysis, so we're really just looking to cover our costs that somebody wants to pursue those.
So kind of jumping ahead to break down here, what's just proposing is temporary food establishment permit for someone who is a Palestine based business.
We're suggesting only a fee of $25, whether they do one of any year or five events a year, they would pay $25 because we're already paying for their business license.
So this just covers some of the additional costs.
If someone is not a Palestine based business, we're suggesting a $75 fee for a one time event or a $150 fee.
That would allow you to do multiple events over a 12 month period.
And these would be 12 months from whenever they got their permits. So this isn't an annual license, but somebody gets one in July.
They would have, you know, through the next July. So from that perspective, I know there was a question before about what other fees of a community's charge.
And this is kind of a gray area that we can't it's hard to find apples to apples comparison. So we kind of looked at our fees to cover our costs.
And then also how they compare to the permanent food establishment fees, which are summarized at the top of the screen here.
So, and then the only other related fee we're looking at is there's a reinspection fee for health inspections that's kind of buried in the code.
We're looking to put it in the fee schedule. That's the singly we handle reinspection for the rental licenses or for building permits.
So those are the, there's the code amendments that go with them and then they associated changes to the fee schedule.
So I can answer any questions.
I would just say Mike for the two temporary ones, just put after it, 9, Pelotine license.
Yes, just to clarify. Yes.
Anybody in the I answer this evening?
I'm ready about all those in favor, please sing to five by sing I.
I, everyone also votes either. I'll be on tonight's consent agenda.
And our final I am today is a presentation of the video gaming establishments.
If I could just frame a quickly Mr. Manager, I'll hand it right over to you because I know
you have some slides.
When we approved video gaming maybe two and a half years ago, and really wondering what
was going to happen because we didn't know.
We didn't have ordinances built for it, and I know Brian, I see Brian's here, and it
was a concern from the borrowers of, hey, we need to be able to compete, and we need to be able
to keep our establishments open, and we need this funding source to go forward.
And there was a lot of trepidation as we went into it because we didn't know what was coming
to town.
I'm happy to say two and a half years later as we look back, there have been a few
with any issues that have been caused by video gambling within the village of Palatine.
Certainly, I've not heard of complain.
I think that's the credit of our borrowers and the establishments and how they run that, and
how they've incorporated into their business plans and how they incorporated it without being
intrusive to their patrons.
And again, I've never had a complaint.
I don't know if other people have, but I think in general, we've had very few.
So I want to give the business owners credit for that.
The other caveat to what we're hoping for is allow the businesses to be more competitive
to make more money, and then have that be reinvested into some of the establishments and to
increase the outside of it and increase the inside.
There's just how nice it could be, have better mechanicals, maybe, bathroom upgrades.
Whatever it might be that this, the location would need going forward.
And we fully understand that that can't be done in an instant.
The money didn't show up in a lump sum and the first day that they got their license approved.
And it's been a process in planning that out.
So what we're hoping to do with this is really come back and say, OK, one, one, congratulations
on the success of the program.
Because I think it's been well received by the community.
It's been well handled by our borrowers, but two, also looking at what the investments are.
And even if there's not an investment that's been made, this tangible today, what's it look like in
the future?
Are the funds there?
The things can be done that just that people have been saving for a rainy day or are trying
to accumulate funds for.
So we're looking to hear that second half of what took place with the program.
And I'd finally put on it.
Any feedback that the owners have, you guys see a day and a day out, we don't.
But Brian certainly, you guys have the same type of establishments in different towns.
Maybe they do things better than we do, and if we could get that feedback, that helps us be
better.
And so that's what we're looking for.
The dialogue, it says it meant to be a common front of us and we're going to scream in
the hollow.
And nothing like that.
It's all been positive so far today, so we want to make sure that everybody understands that.
And look forward to what we're going to hear in the next three weeks, as this unfolds we'll
have three to four weeks, we'll be hearing from all the different people with the establishment
licenses.
Coming out of that, what do we hope to gain?
We hope to get smarter.
Frankly, that's what we hope for.
We hope to hear how it's going on on the operators from their point of view.
We want to hear about investments that are going to be made, how can we help us
have some of those things?
We're also doing a lot of investing in the downtown in different areas of town, whether it's
a tiff district or the facade programs at Northwest Highway, wherever that is.
So we have a big investment going in too, where we're putting the dollars to work, that we do
get from the programs.
We want to see, there's other areas we can invest in that makes sense with some of the investments
that are coming from the owners themselves.
And then finally, as we look at it, is this step back to say, hey, is it time to say 11?
It's not a cap anymore.
Now, we went through the sunset process, we didn't take it away.
But now we're 11 licenses, should we be going to open it up everywhere?
Or should we be saying, oh, it's really good where it is today?
And those are the things that we hope to gain and clean as we go through the process as the
council.
So I just wanted to frame that before we get too far into it.
Did anybody on the council on anything else to add?
Mr. Manager.
Thank you.
And I'm going to kind of follow and we're, you left off with that.
So it was just over three years ago.
I believe it was February, March of 2022, where the village council did decide to try video gaming.
It was done originally on a two-year pilot basis starting with the 2022-23 license here.
Some establishments were up and running as early as August of 2022.
Others didn't come online until about this time in 2023.
With it being a two-year period with no guarantee, it was going to go beyond that.
I know as I've had discussions with all of the established owners, some of them were very reluctant
early on to start making a lot of reinvestment in their property, because they didn't know
what the future of gaming would be.
There were minor things that could be done.
Some of them had much bigger plans and visions that they wanted to know it was going to be here
to stay before they did that.
So at the council's request, we have reached out to all the 11 establishments that have a video
gaming license to ask them all to pick a date between this week, next week, and then the 12th
and 19th of May.
That will get all the establishments through the process.
From where Councilman Lamaran indicated, it would be my intention that after all 11 go
and we have their feedback, your feedback, we would come back sometime in June or maybe the July
meeting and have a follow-up discussion where we can talk about things learn, changes we might
want to make or any input like that.
So after we take it all in, I just want to provide some high-level overview before I get into
the establishments.
I'll do this once.
We can repeat it when the others come forward, but this is for you and we can move forward
with it.
The way the state statute works, there is a split of the profits that come out of it.
Roughly 33% goes to the establishment, that would be the borrowners.
33% goes to the terminal operators, so those that own the terminals that are putting it in there
and monitoring them, maintaining them, et cetera.
The state takes 29% of the money that's generated from it and the remaining 5% goes to the municipality.
So we have our own local enforcement, our own administration, we get 5% of what comes
out of it.
When I look at where they go, and since August of 22, understanding some have been online
for coming up on full three years, some have only been online for about two years.
The terminal operators and the establishment to cumulatively have made about $3 million, the
state $2.7 million, the village $470,000, since August of 2022.
The establishment breakdown, we have one that has now topped half a million dollars.
We have another one that just got above $100,000, so you can see there's a wide spread of
dollars coming in to all the different establishments that are out there.
I just want to go back for a second on this, because when we did do the reach out to the establishments,
a couple of them said, well, you want to hear from us what we did, we want to know what the village
is doing.
And Councilman Lamar, and you talked a little bit about the investment that we're making in the community,
one of the other things that we did is part of the most recent budget process is we created
a community engagement and planning division in the police department.
That's a $2.3 million division.
Some of it was transferring current costs into it, but we also had just short of $400,000 worth
of new personnel that we brought in.
This is the division that oversees the liquor licensing, the video gaming, the adult use cannabis,
some of those other things within the community.
This is also the one that is better integrating our social work out there.
We're doing more community engagement.
We're going to have a national might out for the first time this year.
We are using the dollars that we have collected through this to reinvest back in our community.
That was important to the village council that if there's going to be dollars coming in from
this, that these are dollars that we can tangibly show where they're going and that we're making
the community a better place.
So, by and large, beyond some economic development efforts, we're really focusing this into the
new community engagement and planning division that the council approved is part of the 2025 budget
and intended to do so going forward.
We get just over $200,000 a year, so it's not even covering a half of the new cost of that
division, let alone the full cost of the division, so we're supplementing it with other
dollars, but that's where we continue to put the dollars in.
So, the community as a whole has been fitting whether you've ever put a dollar into one of the
machines or not, there's still a benefit coming back to everybody else within the community.
So with that, tonight you have your first three establishments coming forward.
We've tried to schedule three per night.
Councilman Lamaryan will have the first two times and then Councilman Ms. Linsky, because
of the committee rotation, gets the other.
I don't know if you're better off coming in the first half or the second half, but that remains
to be seen.
This evening, we do have gators with us, and then we have shells and donkey end, shells
and donkey end are under the same common ownership, so that we can have one discussion.
So I will start with gators, gators, who's one of the last two get approved by the state of Illinois,
even though they were one of the first to submit an application to the state for whatever
reason the state took longer there, so they did not come online until February of 2023.
It was a slow ramp up, as you can see by the chart in front of you, to date they have had
about $197,000 coming in and they're gaming.
I know they provided some information that I forwarded to the council with some of the investment
they've been making, and I just want to comment and they'll get into more detail.
But again, some of the investment that you're seeing was not investment that was absolutely
required, was ways the business said I can be more competitive.
I can do a better job by buying something now that even if it didn't need replacing it was
going to make me a better establishment for it.
So I think you're going to hear some stories like that, all three establishments tonight
do have some good positive that they can come forward with.
So with that, I'd like to have Neil, who is the owner of Gators, come forward.
Now I will butcher his last name, so he can give you his last name as he comes up, so we'll start
with Gators, and then we will jump over and two snails and donkey in.
So Neil, it's good evening, Neil Jalkover, I know it's kind of like it's spelled, but
it's difficult to, it's been butcher going back.
My father's going to be 91, he was butchered too.
So we could just spell it for the clerk.
JOL, COVER, Jalkover, New York, New York.
Is the address of the establishment good enough?
That's fine.
The floor is yours.
Read pretty much, said just out everything, I tried to provide a document that showed some
of the things we did.
We had a late start and then a slow start, but we immediately, immediately, did a couple
things, sealed coding our parking lot, and replacing all of our seating in our dining room
with which, I know I put on the form here that it was about $69,000, but a time we were
done with the cost of delivery, etc., it was really more about $8,300.
For that, I've replaced a lot of kitchen equipment, these are all, everything I listed
here, if you have copies of it, was unnecessary things, things I did not, we did not need
to do.
I did not need to do these things, replacing friars, replacing ovens, replacing stove, it was
often more efficient equipment, so we could produce our product in a better way, a faster
way, finding a way to make 15,000 wings on Super Bowl Sloan Day is quite a challenge, so just
things like that, that you can't do in the old days, but the efficiency of the equipment.
This really, really important. So we did a lot of that patio tent. That was a COVID thing, but we've
continued to do it because of the video gaming. That is a $3,000 plus a month expense. We have
a permit in again for that. And we do it for four months. And you know, we think it's great.
It's a good visual when people are driving down the road. It looks great. And you know, people notice
the business, even though we're on ran road, and a lot of cars drive by. I think that's really, really important.
So, you know, in the end, everything we've done here for the two years, we're looking at about $50,000.
We do the math. We've put about 25% of what we've gotten from the video gaming back in.
So, and then, you know, you got to figure another 25% of that goes to Uncle Sam. So, you know, so, we feel we've
done, you know, what we were asked to do. And if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have.
Have you found that it was, it made you more competitive, because you're up north.
And some of the communities up there were getting gaming and close by you. Did you think before
gaming was approved, you were losing some customers to that and were able to gain them back?
You know, yeah, for all of you that know, gators, I mean, we've got a product that brings people in from all over.
So, I do see a lot of new customers. I see people that come in. They spend time in the restaurant or in the bar area.
And then, you know, see the games go over and play them. I also see people just walk in and just head directly to that area in the back end of
our, of our bar, you know, and go directly to the games. So, I think it really is kind of a whole.
I think I think it's, you know, we're family restaurant as well. So, we don't see all these people, you know,
filling up our dining room with their kids and then coming over to the other side.
I think I think people sitting in the bar sitting in the bar area, which I bar in bar area, you know, seats 100 people. So, you know,
I think it's a great visual. It looks really nice and clean or set up for it. I think turned out really better than we expected it to.
So, yeah, yeah, thanks.
Any other questions or something? You're constantly listening.
Yeah.
Neil, I think you're an example of what we were, we were hoping what happened.
Thank you, Doug.
Even before, you know, the video game was passed. You always, you always were committed to keeping things up there and keeping things nice.
You know, it's always a pleasure to go in there and see. Thank you.
And I think one of the biggest, my question is one of the biggest fears that we had was, you know, the family style restaurants.
We're families going to walk in and be repulsed by seeing the video gaming and never, never to enter your place again.
Tell us, is that happened to you? Because you are a true family, right?
Not at all. Not at all.
More kids, more families, more hi-chairs every day out.
You know, I mean, it's really, it hasn't affected anything at all. People are not repulsed by it.
I think people see it in so many places that there, you know, there's just not, you know, there's nothing to be afraid of.
And, you know, every establishment has a different set up. You know, for us, you know, you know, you walk in our place.
You go to this side and this dining room and you go to the other side and it's the bar.
And, you know, it's kind of hidden behind a wall at the back end. They're visible, which I think is great.
And, you know, maybe there's people that see that and come back another time, you know, so I think it's, I think it's been pretty good.
It's started off kind of slow. We've talked about that before. You know, and, you know, I might have thought it would be better.
Then it really is, but it's consistent, you know, consistent. So, yeah, we're, you know, I think we're, we're pleased with it. But it does, you know, with the inflation, you know, just the, the cost of doing business in general employee costs are higher.
I definitely think it's, it's, you know, it's help.
So.
Thank you.
Thanks Neil. I think Doug said it great. It's, this is what we're looking for.
Thank you.
I think he mentioned it. And I think we all kind of forget that Uncle Sam takes a good chunk of this money as well too.
So when we look at that, you know, look at a money, you know, a big part of the test day right now.
Yeah.
You know, my accountant was like, don't forget about video game.
I'm like.
Do you also see, and I think you mentioned it, that this a little bit in flux helps you bridge with the inflation,
the employee costs retention. I mean, you don't see that as physical, you know, tangible improvements,
but it's got to help you in that manner as well.
Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. You know, it takes the edge off a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah. Because that's been difficult, like since COVID, you know, I mean, some places didn't make it through COVID, you know.
And, you know, we're one of the places that closed down for nine or ten months.
You know, we didn't, we didn't reopen in this, when you all said, well, you can open if you want.
We didn't do that. You know, we waited till, you know, till we could fully open to fully open our place.
So, you know, you know, but, but again, it's, I think it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a family restaurant to clean place.
You know, we, we keep it up, we keep it up a specific way and we, we like to do that.
So, you know, it's been fine.
It's been good, but we're, we're pleased with, with how it's going.
I think each area, each place, you know, sometimes you're like, how can that place be doing that much business?
But it's, it's, again, we have a lot of families coming in. So, it's a, it's a different, it's a different type of place.
You know, there could be a little bit of this big that's doing double what I'm doing.
But it's more about what's directly around it, I think than, than anything else, you know.
So, great first two years, what do you, what do you see is, what do you, what would you like to do next or what do you see?
Well, I think we're just going to continue, you know, doing things, you know, whether it's upgrades.
You know, like I said, we did the chairs immediately.
But, you know, the seal coating, the painting, I got a seal coat come in Memorial Day weekend.
You know, we, you know, I think there's, there's other things, you know, we would always like to do.
Whether it's, you know, purchasing new patio furniture, things like that.
So, you know, those are things that, I think, Dave and I would just normally do, because that's how we run our business.
But, you know, we're able to pull the trigger a lot faster, you know, you know, because of the video gaming.
You know, we're able to do some of these things that maybe we wouldn't have been able to do as quickly.
Maybe we would have said, well, let's do it next year, let's do it the year after that.
You know, so I definitely think it's helped to have it, you know, and we have it any issues.
I don't recall hearing about any issues through all the places the restaurants that have video gaming.
I know that was a concern when we were first coming up in these meetings.
But, you know, there's, there hasn't been any incidents, there's zero, zero.
So, so we're pleased about that too, because you don't know.
And we're still open kind of late and, you know, we don't see, we don't see anything different as far as that type of go.
So, that's what we're talking about.
Thanks, Neil.
Yeah, just great. Congratulations.
Thank you.
You know, from just a general question about, I know you compete with some of these other businesses that have wings and, you know,
other restaurants down the street, what have you.
Right.
Do you consult with these other businesses that come up with ideas and how to bring new customers in the doors and regards to you?
Uh, to come in through the doors for the gaming or just to come in through our restaurant.
General, I guess both.
Not really.
I think we just, you know, my partner and I consult with each other.
You know, we've done, I mean, we've been in 1996, we're coming up on 30 years, 25 and Palatine.
So, um, you know, we just keep doing our thing.
Yeah, yeah, we really don't consult with other people.
Um, we think our recipes okay.
So, we, yeah.
We're not looking to fix it.
We can get you a food truck permit for $25.
No, I know.
Yeah, we're, we're like, I know.
We, um, we think about that, you know, maybe in, in years past, we, you know, we would bite on that stuff.
But no, I don't think I'm looking for a food truck.
No, no.
No.
There's lots.
Yeah, I think, um, I think a count of three times Neil said, it's helped.
I think that's important to understand that this is not.
At no point did gators switch to a video gaming and then, oh, by the way, we have wings.
And it does all along, that's kind of what we envision.
What this would be an enhancement to your business.
Right.
And then we would reinvest to the quick return friars or to the seal coding or to the tent.
That's how we envisioned it.
And, you know, there's a method of the madness.
There's a reason you're standing here and, and, and, uh, and, uh, uh, uh,
Donkey, it'll be coming up next and snails.
And we have a couple of establishments, a few establishments that have done it the right way.
And we want to set the bar kind of how this is supposed to look, how we envisioned it.
You know, when it was all set and done.
And for you to say that, you know, it's helped.
It's, no point did you say it's saved us.
It was, you know, because you had a strong business to start with.
Right.
And then this has just become an as a soil part of your business and enhancement.
It's over here.
It's people want it great.
You know, we were, we have one of the most strict ordinances there is with regards to
video game.
We know big flags out there.
No, we won $6 million in this property in the last six months.
There is none of that.
And it's done by design because this is something that it's here.
And only way you're going to know what's here is if you walk in the restaurant and turn
to the right and see it over in the corner.
Right.
That's how it is.
That's, that's why we appreciate this back and forth.
Thank you.
Thank you for coming in.
Thank you very much, Mayor.
Appreciate it.
Great.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
So the next one we have Brian Schnell here.
He and his brother are the owners of Schnells, which is in the downtown area.
And then they also on the donkey end.
So Schnells was one of the earlier ones with November of 2022 coming online.
You can see what their profits have been.
Obviously, this is gross as Neil pointed out.
The government takes a nice chunk of it.
And then I'm just going to jump ahead real quickly, donkey end as well.
Similar, a little bit higher numbers than Schnells.
They came online about two months earlier than Schnells.
So again, Brian Schnell on behalf of both of them.
And I will, which logo do you want to play?
You talk to your Brian.
I'll put the Schnells logo on yourself.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me, gentlemen.
And lady.
Ma'am.
I'd like to start out with Schnells.
I don't want to repeat too much, but it has helped.
With our established businesses, I feel like we're still succeed without it.
But it does help with the right since COVID, the rising food cost, rising wages, everything.
So it kind of, it does help offset.
Let's see.
Just to start out, for Brawh House, with the help of the video gaming,
we have been able to put a new signage on our building.
I believe it was last summer.
We just recently replaced two AC units, which are very, very expensive.
Replaced all our seating in there.
I forgot how many 30 something chairs I'll, you know.
We were able to purchase the building as of last week, which was that definitely helped us doing that.
And it becomes with four units, which we'd like to, we already had plans of improving the outside,
paying necessary improvements, beautify the building itself for the downtown location.
It's a great location.
The village of Palatine has been great to us to our businesses.
Schnells, we've been there.
I believe it's just past 10 years.
Donkey in, little over 18, from the phone correct.
We also have future improvements with the purchase of the building of Schnells.
Where we have the gaming, I personally don't like it.
Like to move, where we have the spot, unit next door.
So we have plans to move that neck, the games next door have a little private room.
Get our dining room back to normal.
Let's see.
We do have plans to redo all the flooring inside, which is not, it's all hardwood floors.
So we do, I mean, we plan on investing more into the building itself as in all four units.
To keep everyone successful in beautiful building for the downtown area.
And I know you guys are talking about improving the walkway, which would be amazing, which I'm very happy about.
Any questions about browse?
Yep, is the move to try to get the video gaming away from the bar?
Or is it just to get more seating?
So I want to get the more seating in our dining room.
So we had our normal dining room, and we kind of squeeze them in there, and it's kind of uncomfortable.
So I'd like to put them in a separate enclosed room.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with Donkey, but we have like a tinted glass.
We'd like to do something like that and kind of set them off to the sides of the way.
And we get our dining room back and we have a normal seating.
We do have a good dining business there.
So we'd like to get our normal seating and make comfortable for the customers.
It's kind of awkward location right now where they're at.
I think you buried the leave here. You bought the building.
Yes.
I mean, congratulations.
Thank you very much.
So that's, I mean, that's what we're trying to save up for that.
We plan on staying there for, right? I mean, I don't know that there's going to be a better example
of using of funds by a building. That's outstanding. And I guess the question then comes as far
as procedure, how you run your business, how your business plan. Did you see a downtick in dining
when you got gaming because you lost seats? I don't think, I wouldn't say no. I mean, our numbers
are still very, very good. And I think too, during COVID, the outdoor seating helped a lot. That kind
of offset things. After COVID, once we did get the games, we still have our outdoor seating. So,
sometimes it's got a nice, so that balances the missing tables we have inside. Inside,
it does back up in the winter time. So, that's why I'd like to get the seating back and the dining
room back to normal. And we could have, we do have parties there. So, we'd better offer parties more space
because it's kind of a snug place to begin with. So, congratulations. Thank you very much.
That's not a cause. That's the piggyback. That's great. By an building, it's going to be hard to top that.
But you'd said it's four units? Yes. Yes. So, we occupy currently, we occupy two. Nelson group is the other
one and others of Akin spot. I believe it's 37 in the Slaze Street. One of you going to turn into the gaming room?
Well, we have to work with a village and plan it. But we want to kind of just make an inlet. Maybe a 12 foot
wide, maybe a ton of foot deep inlet. And then try to maybe utilize that space and rent it out
or lease it. So, the other they can one right now. We'd like to just go in there clean up. We just
literally just closed on it last Wednesday. So, my plan on this week going in there, making a list,
a honeydew list of everything that needs to be repaired, fixed anything. And then just try to lease it out
to somebody that could bring good business to the village. So, in stay long. So, free track.
So, thank you. All right, onto the donkey. All right, onto the donkey. So, as for the donkey,
we have the ways located. We have it at a separate room, nice to neglect and off to the side.
Um, nobody really knows. I mean, it's kind of, it's almost as if it's like a golden tier at
a dark board. It's come so common that people walk in, you know, and even notice that they're there.
Usually it's more of a form of entertainment. I see people all the time sitting at the bar.
You know, they'll have a couple of drinks. He breakfast go play a few games. Come back. It's, you know,
so there are people that sneak in, sneak out, you know, very quiet. But you don't really notice that
and they don't bother anybody. It's, I've had more headaches with the liquor than gaming. So,
I've had no headaches with the gaming, but, um, as far as improvements, we actually, I want to say
within the last few years, I forgive me if my time is off. But we were able to replace the roof on the
building. Um, we had a fence blowdown to that repair. I drive away ceiling this year. I plan on doing
it with the building itself needs a whole new paint job. Um, I actually, I've been wanting to do this for a while,
but I just did take some money. I would like to add on, because every year, I take down and put up the fence
myself and I'm doing that for the last 18 years. It's a lot of work. So, I'd like to, in turn, put up potentially
permanent patio out there, maybe covered some sort of permanent patio to increase maybe for parties in the
wintertime if we can close it or, I just have ideas, but it's kind of in the beginning stages of that.
But that's not going to be cheap expense either, and to make it, since we are on Plum Grove Road and
make it look fairly nice and desirable to our neighbors. Um, the interior, I mean, it's an old building,
so it's a constantly maintenance and everything. Um, the floor, wood floors, again, those needs
resealing as well and taking care of, so in time I would like to retile the bathrooms and improve the
bathrooms. And so I mean, there's multiple thing, you know, in future investments for the property there.
Like again, we plan on staying there forever too, so we definitely would like to invest into the building and
beautify it and so, and eventually new signage. Um, so yeah, so any questions regarding donkey?
Go ahead, Councilor. Yeah, this kind of applies to both. Um, as far as staffing goes, did you find that you could,
you know, maybe add some staff where you needed, um, staff or employee retention or anything like that,
did it, did it help at all with with that? I mean, the employee wages have gone up,
so I mean, it does help kitchen staff, especially if it's COVID, I mean, everything's gone up, so it,
it does help offset that. Um, but like I said, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's a nice addition.
So, you know, I'm making improvements and do all that stuff and, um, without it, yes, we could
survive without it, you know what I mean? But it is, it is very nice to have.
Without that, I don't know if we'd be with shells, I don't know if we've been able to purchase the building or do anything like that,
so it's very happy. And then even with donkey, we'd like to, you know, in future, keep making improvements and
try to keep it a nice, nice establishment for everybody. But no, as far as I'm going on behind the scenes, I know.
So, it's, yeah, there's a whole part. So it has helped offset wages and because they have been rising every year.
So, um, as far as cooking staff or, you know, the weight staff, so, sure.
No, one question, Brian, it's a little off topic, but if you're opinion on it, you're closest to a cafe in
Sally's, it really matters, which is a half mile away, right? Different customers completely,
go into a Sally's versus play at the donkey, or do people use them both the same way? I don't really
especially have an answer for it, honestly, I'm just looking for your opinion. No, I only know, because we have,
we have an establishment in the stream, would. And I've seen cars come from us and go down to the
Sally's next door, you know, they just kind of do a thing hop and I don't have to try to get better luck at
another establishment. Yeah. Yeah, you know what, I don't think, I think it's a different clientele.
Like, we're more family, family of staff, you know, family you've re-entated.
Snell and donkey. Like I said, I think people just do, they just bounce them about, you know,
try their luck. And I don't think it's taken away, but I think in the beginning it, it was right
down the street, so people could go there. I don't think it took away business for us, but it, it
is a nice form of entertainment. I've seen people, they sit there, they drink, they stay longer,
because they will gamble, or they win, and they'll put money back in, and they stay longer to eat,
drink, so it is helpful. You're not getting shady people, if you will. It's not like one of those situations.
So, I've only, my experience, it's been people form of entertainment, they do stay longer,
it helps our business, so I mean, in general, so. Right. That's great. Oh, that's what
guys are asking. Just a quick question. And probably staff, I don't want to open a can of worms,
but you do a great job every day updating your signage, which are specials and stuff,
but because of the residential feel, he can never get a electronic message board there, right?
Our upgrade to it. I'd like to say no, he couldn't, but it would also maybe be a policy issue
of the council, so we do have established corridors where we would allow electronic message boards,
this is not not one of them right there. Every day, it's updated. I don't know how time you guys will.
We know, I mean, the electronic thing, we're not really, we like the old school. I mean, the guys,
we have, our guys do it every night after the kitchen closes, so it's, I just amazed that it was always
changing. They're out there. I mean, it's no big deal. I mean, if it's real bad, we don't, you know,
they keep them inside. No, they do good. I mean, those guys are on top of it. It might be spelled wrong
once in a while. Otherwise, you do a great job. That's what else? You know, you mentioned something,
and it was, you find them staying a little longer, spending a little more, what have you.
That was another big concern of ours was wallet share. You know, how much someone has in
a pocket and would it go in the machines and would it affect you negatively? They wouldn't have
them money for the extra bear or the burger or what have you. You haven't seen that at all. I don't think so,
no. I mean, the people that go in there are very quiet. They slide in, they slide out. You know, it's kind of,
like, you really don't know. I mean, it's kind of just another dining experience, but they're in front of
the machine. That's, you know, that's obviously, okay. It didn't pull your regular customers away.
I don't think so. Okay. I haven't heard any negative feedback from any of those customers and I usually would
hear it right away. Steph did look at it. I think 10 out of the 11 video gaming establishments have
had record food and beverage sales post COVID after video gaming came on, so we haven't seen that.
And their percent increases in food and beverage are really in line with what we've seen with the
non-video gaming. So I don't think there's been any evidence that we've seen where it's taken away
from the regular food and dining. It's just been something extra that has been done while people have
been at the establishment. Or like Brian said, some people might sneak in and sneak out and never
have spent money anyhow on the rest of it. So we haven't seen any evidence whatsoever.
A quick follow up to that. You know, if you add all four different towers, it's like 10 million dollars
over the last two and a half years. If let's say that's a captured fund and the average
tax or food is not decreasing. Are you able from, I mean, it's got to be taking it from somewhere.
10 million dollars just didn't appear out of the air. You know, we don't get see tax returns and stuff.
But have you seen something from a macro economics to the village? I think we were very late to the
game and doing video gaming. A lot of talents had had it for a number of years. You saw some of
these establishments coming forward year after you're asking for it. So I think what you've probably seen
more of is just a shift of where the dollars, maybe they were doing something at the assembly and
Hoffman estates or maybe they were somewhere in Shomer or Rolling Meadows and now they're a little
bit closer to Homer or establishment. They were otherwise add. So we've not seen it drop off anywhere else.
I think it's by and large either been a shift or some people just have decided to spend some
money on this so they weren't otherwise doing.
If I could add two, I think you mentioned something about like other talents how they
ran into it. We have two businesses and two other towns and it's basically similar matches up with what
you guys are doing. We have a business on a document. They require it because I believe it's
a document when I'm a kind of a county but we have to have curtains blocking the room because it's
a family establishment. Stream wood, we have it in a separate kind of little nuts. It kind of
works out perfect but again, no headaches in those towns. Same thing. It's kind of off to the side. They
come in for entertainment. That's all. Just keeps them one longer and so I've had out of the four
establishments with poker we have. I haven't had one headache from the video poker so that's great.
Thank you. Thank you. Oh, you're welcome. No thank you for having me. Do you guys have any other questions or
I'd be happy to share. Good. All right. Thank you very much for your time. No Mr. Shomer we do have three
next week. I just want to thank these three because we made it a voluntary sign up for the
date you picked and these three jumped on being first. I think there was a lot of hesitancy by some
establishments but these three establishments, they have a good story to tell. I don't know why Brian
buried it but buying the building and the adjacent tenant spaces using these dollars. I think that's
really what the council wanted to see is somebody reinvesting not only in their business but in the surrounding
area as well. So we will have three more establishments coming to you next week and then we'll be back at this
of May 12. I think a lot of the owners are going to watch tonight's video. Figure out what it you know because it was
example. Great. Welcome up and say they bought a building. I'm not going to buy it. That's it. That's why. Anyway thank you
guys for doing that. Is there anybody in the audience who had a comment to add to the discussion at all?
Perfect. And if there's nothing else submitted, we send it during thank you. I'd like to call the order
of this evening's infrastructure and environment committee. We have one item on our agenda this evening.
This item is to consider a motion to award a contract for the 2025 sewer rehabilitation program. Is there a motion to
approve? Motion to approve. Second. Is there any? How this year's sewer rehabilitation consists of
sliplining about one mile of sewer. We have competitively built this project. We're recommending a
word of contract to the low-bitter hair construction. That's within budget and less than the amount
estimated. Anyone in the audience in this matter? Seeing none all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.
Both aye as well. Motion passes. This will be on tonight's consent agenda. Anything else?
I'd like to cut order to the business finance and budget committee. We have one item on tonight's
agenda and that is to consider an ordinance reserving volume cap and connection with the private activity bond
issues in related matters. Thank you. So this is a program that we've consistently allocated or dollars to.
In essence, we have dollars available if there was a large manufacturing expansion taking place in
town. They would have the ability to go issue bonds at what would be the equivalent of tax exempt rate.
Seeing none of that, we have choices of either giving the money back to the state, let the state do with it as they
see fit or we can allocate it into other programs identified that neither criteria. We've worked a number of years.
I really threw the town a normal that coordinates it but this is a mortgage assistance program so it helps people
looking to buy their first home, get different mortgage credits to bring down the
or help with the affordability of it. So this is one of several programs that are out there.
The one thing I will note is that in working with the vendors, a lot of the mortgage.
Users, there are some in the Chicago area more in Central Illinois. We've asked them to work on expanding their network and better marketing up in this area.
Well, we have had a number of properties within Palatine take advantage we'd like to get the word out of you.
Yes, that was my question. We were talking earlier. How does one get notified that this is even available? Is that through the lender or through the re-leader or how does that happen?
So a number of realtors know about it and they'll tell their clients about it.
Mortgage lenders that participate in the program will have it and market it to them because it's their advantage doing this.
The state of Illinois, also has a number not only this program but other mortgage programs that are available to residents within the state.
So it's out there and then we have some information available through ours as well.
So some of it's word of mouth, some of it is just people seeking it out.
You know, I think the unfortunate part is some of the real estate professionals don't take the time or effort to try to identify these things and guide their people to it.
They just want that next sale and they move on. So it's a combination of things.
You know, we're doing what we can to try to get the word out as well. I know we've brought it up at some of the resident advisory meetings that we've had and put other articles in our newsletters.
That's a lot of money. If we ever fully utilize the whole amount of money gets spent.
When we put it in the pool, you might have one year where more money is being spent, you know,
Arlington Heights is part of it or the town of normal the city of Peoria. Another year you might have more spent up in the suburban area.
So it all varies as to where it goes because it's going into a large pool for that.
Thank you. Any other questions from the committee?
Is there anybody in the audience on this?
I knew. And we are ready for vote all those. And favor please signify by saying aye.
High-F Boris Post Chairman also the signed, there's free put on tonight's consent agenda.
Does anybody have anything under Ass Vous submit it?
Seeing Tham abuse standing there.
This time I'll like to call to where the administration technology community health committee.
There's nothing on the public agenda this evening, is anyone there intime to foreigner?
All the order of fire policy and community information committee, we have nothing on tonight's agendas, or anything else related.
Seeing that as a committee's adjourned.
With that, I would need a motion to reconvene the council meeting.
So moved.
Motion and seconded all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Opposed by the scene, we have an amended consent agenda.
Item number one was remanded back the staff, so we needed a motion to approve items two through twelve.
Motion approved items two through twelve of the consent agenda with waiver.
Seconded.
Motion, we have a second. Madam Clerk, will you to roll call, please.
Councilman Lamarin.
Councilman.
Melar.
Aye.
Councilman Kuzowski.
Aye.
Councilman Falkenberg.
Aye.
Councilman Helms.
Aye.
Councilman Rizinski.
Aye.
Content agenda passed.
Thank you.
Your report statement committee administration,
Technology and Community Health Committee, Councilman Helms chairman.
I'm a host of members.
This is fine.
It's a budget committee, Councilman.
Ms. Lensky, for the last time.
I went for Mr. Mayor.
I can now.
Development Committee Councilman Melar Chairman.
Yes, we had one item referred back that was considering an ordinance granting a minor plan
development amendment to allow a revised business plan and floor plan at 16-orthboth.
Well, and that was referred back to staff with the unanimous approval of the council.
We did a formal vote on this, Mr. Chair.
No, because the action is at the committee.
Sounds good.
So, once my report.
All right.
Fire policy and Community Information Committee Councilman Kuzowski chairman.
No report, Mr. Mayor.
Section Vime Committee Councilman, Fallon Berg Chairman.
No further report, Mr. Mayor.
Please policy and code.
Service Committee Councilman Lambert Chairman.
No report, Mr. Mayor.
I'm a report.
Your village officer reported those manager.
I reported sir.
The report of our village clerk.
And the report.
Thank you.
The report of our village attorney.
No report in our request or close session.
Thank you, sir.
Anybody in the audience is even interested to come forward on an item that was not on the published agenda.
Please come forward at this time.
Seeing none with that, we need a motion to adjourn.
So moved.
Second.
Motion and second to the allows and favor.
Please see if I may say aye.
Aye.
All right.
We're adjourned.
All right.
This time I'd like to call to order the Palatine liquor commission from Monday, April 14th,
2025 Madam Clerk will you please call the roll.
Commissioner Schlaun.
Here.
Commissioner Malar.
Here.
Commissioner Lamran.
Here.
Commissioner Mazinski.
Commissioner Falkenberg.
Here.
Commissioner Kuzowski.
Here.
All right.
First up is even the motion to approve the liquor commission minutes from March 10th, 2025.
Second.
Motion and second.
Allows and favor.
Please sing the five by saying aye.
Aye.
Opposed?
All right.
We just have two items on the agenda.
The evening.
First we're asked to consider a motion granting a class e-taper to liquor license for the
Saint Nick Taryl's Greek Orthodox Church annual Greek fest.
To be held on June 20th to the 22nd.
2025.
This will be at one 33 South Rose on Road.
Okay.
Motion.
Second.
Motion.
Second.
Anybody in the audience was to offer any testimony? Seeing none all those in favor please signify by saying aye
I oppose next we're asked to consider an application for a class G1
Restaurant seasonal beer and wine liquor license for mocus chocolates located at 1890 North ram road
Okay, motion
It's like a motion a second any discussion from the commission
Staff anything anybody in the audience seeing none all those in favor of peace signify by saying aye
I post and with that I need a motion to adjourn liquor commission
Second motion in second dollars in favor of please signify by saying aye