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[1:30] Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you all for coming. I'd like to call to order the meeting of the
[1:37] code enforcement board for May 15, 2025. Carla, could we please call the roll.
[1:45] Mr. Klein. Mr. Pelosi.
[1:47] Here. Mr. Saba.
[1:49] Here. Mr. McGowan.
[1:51] Here. Mr. Lamoyam. Mr. Brooker.
[1:54] Here. Mr. Fried.
[1:55] Here.
[1:58] Okay.
[1:58] Good I miss. Mr. Cohen. Mr. Roya.
[2:01] Here.
[2:02] Okay. All of us? Good? I used to that. Please rise to the pledge.
[2:10] Please rise to the pledge.
[2:10] Please rise to the pledge.
[2:14] Please rise to the pledge.
[2:18] Okay, just
[2:27] a quick few comments.
[2:31] One of my greatest pleasures is to have John Cohen back with us.
[2:34] I feel our prayers were answered.
[2:36] I know it's been a long road for you, John, but we missed you and we're so happy they're safe and well with us today.
[2:44] On a personal note, I want to apologize again to Carla.
[2:48] I've never done such a thing, Carla, and I'm grateful to you for your understanding as well as your support, your treasure to the board and anyone who knows you.
[2:57] I want to congratulate Chris on a wonderful location and in addition to his family and we wish him continue good good health and success and happiness and peace and I want to welcome Officer Martinez to our code family
[3:11] He's not here. I don't dice that just looked. Okay. Well, he's still welcome and with that I'd also just like to do one quick housekeeping manner
[3:21] I received the call this morning from Mr. Crowley and I promised him that we would alter the agenda and
[3:30] hear his case first because he has another commitment.
[3:34] With that, may I please have a motion to approve the agenda as?
[3:48] We need a motion to amend the agenda and move case 25151, one via sunny, property owner
[3:57] sunny sessor.
[3:58] Item number E to item to before item number E.
[4:02] So moved.
[4:04] Good.
[4:04] Thank you.
[4:04] Thank you.
[4:11] Can we have a motion to approve the minutes?
[4:13] I moved to.
[4:16] So move a second.
[4:17] All in favor.
[4:19] Any opposed?
[4:20] Carla, the administration of the oath to the town staff, please.
[4:26] Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you about to give is the truth?
[4:29] The whole truth and nothing but the truth or help you got?
[4:32] Okay.
[4:34] Moving along rapidly.
[4:35] Code statistics?
[4:38] Office are more ready.
[4:39] Good to see you, sir.
[4:42] You the only one who says that to me.
[4:48] Well, today's codenforcements statistics for May 15th, 2025, 1,107 year to date codenforce
[4:56] cases 262.
[5:00] Good cases have been initiated since our last board hearing in April. Of those 88 cases were officer-generated
[5:07] and 174 were received from other sources. Code enforcement inspections. We have done 5,288 inspections
[5:18] a year to date of the 24 cases that were originally set to appear at our hearing today.
[5:29] 14
[5:29] and for fine consideration cases with zero fine reduction and zero all business.
[5:37] Thank you, sir. Any questions for the town?
[5:41] Seeing none, Carla, could we please do the financial report?
[5:45] Financial report for the Goldenforcement Board hearing of May 15, 2025. Currently, there are two cases
[5:51] with non-dale running fines, totaling $2,175. We currently have two cases with daily running
[5:59] minds totaling $26,000 with a total of money's owed to the town of $28,175.
[6:07] Leans have been placed for appropriate total of money's collected for the month of April,
[6:12] a $17,525 and total of money's collected year to date so far is $48,600.
[6:22] Okay.
[6:22] Thank you, Carla.
[6:24] That takes us to public hearings.
[6:26] And, Mr. Crowley, we welcome you.
[6:35] It's good to see you again,
[6:38] sir.
[6:39] Before you start, is there any ex-party other than my quick conversation with Mr. Crowley this morning,
[6:44] in which he expressed desire to be heard earlier because he has another commitment?
[6:51] I haven't talked to anyone else.
[6:52] Okay.
[6:52] Mr. Crowley, you're swaying from the testimony about to give.
[6:56] Is it true the whole truth and nothing about the truth to help you guys?
[6:58] I do.
[6:58] Please state your name for the record.
[7:00] Thank you.
[7:00] My name is Jamie Crowley. I'm Council for Sunny Sessa and we were hired last month after the notice of violation was issued for the condition of a C-wall
[7:09] I'm here with Matt Butler from Isaminger and Stubbs Coastal Engineers
[7:17] Yeah, you're sure however you'd like to go
[7:20] Sorry
[7:22] We're moving along too rapidly. You're excited to hear me talk
[7:26] Case number 25 dash 1-5-1 property. I just want to be a sunny owner and sunny sensor.
[7:37] Okay, any activity other than what I have? No.
[7:41] Continue with case number 25-1-5-1-3rd and cases of citizen complaint.
[7:46] Type of the warning is a single family homestead, which I originally received the complaint via email
[7:51] on January 31st, 2025, and is affected the same day.
[7:55] The violation was found section 62-77 of the town code ordinance that states all
[8:00] Volkets and C walls within the town should be maintained in good conditions. I did take pictures
[8:05] And I would like to put them in the record. The notice of violation was received on April 7th and would like to enter the notice into the record as well
[8:13] As today there is no compliance
[8:18] That's the C wall up there
[8:21] You can see the damage there, that's not in good conditions.
[8:26] They did apply for a permit, but still on review due to a multi-stage permit process.
[8:32] The town recommends finding of non-compliance asses of administrative fee in the amount
[8:36] of $150 to be paid within 30 days of the order and to come into compliance by June 23,
[8:42] or this case where we turn for cut, fine consideration at the June 26th, 25-code board hearing.
[8:50] Okay. Again, apologies. Both to Officer Faleo and to my colleagues. We were moving ahead.
[8:59] Two quickly. There's any questions for the town?
[9:03] Scott, you said you inspected it on January 31st.
[9:07] When was it posted and what was your interaction with them?
[9:12] I left the first time was a morning letter.
[9:15] I gave them a morning letter and told them that they were the both head and everything.
[9:19] They did it more time.
[9:21] I gave them like two months or so.
[9:23] And they still because it's a multi stage process.
[9:26] They still need more time for that.
[9:27] Thank you.
[9:30] Any other questions?
[9:33] Not to go nobody.
[9:34] Okay, thank you Mr. Crowley now.
[9:37] Thank you and I'm sorry for jumping ahead of staff.
[9:41] I'm Jamie Crowley for the record.
[9:42] So we were hired last month and they brought on Matt Butler
[9:47] from Isominger and Stubs.
[9:49] I'm pleased to tell you we do have the permit from DEAP,
[9:51] so we've been pushing as hard as we can to get the authority
[9:54] from the state to do this work.
[9:57] I don't know if that's me feeding Doug.
[9:58] Um, and...
[10:00] And so now what we've got to do, we looked at their information that they had compiled. We need to update the survey with some topo information which is going to take the survey or some time. Then we have to file for a town permit and then we have to actually build the new C-wall. So we are moving this as fast as we can. I can tell you we're not going to be complete by June. So I would ask for more time so that I don't have to come back here. And that has said that it's going to be a four to five month process from the time we, from now until the time that the
[10:29] is complete. So I leave it to you if you want me to come back and update you between now and then,
[10:35] but I would think by October we should have this complete and if we are not, I will come back and
[10:40] October and explain why, but I'm confident we'll have it done by then. Okay, Mr. Cron. What length is
[10:47] the sea wall please? It is. Matthew have that information for me.
[10:56] Just stay your name for the day.
[10:59] Good afternoon. Matthew Butler with eyes and major in steps engineering.
[11:04] Do you swear or firm that the test one you have to give is the truth the whole truth?
[11:08] Nothing but the truth to help you got.
[11:11] Matthew Butler, professional engineer with eyes and major in steps engineering here on behalf of
[11:16] the C-wall is 179 linear feet.
[11:23] And what material is it going to be built of?
[11:28] So the existing wall is what they call a gravity wall.
[11:33] It's very typical of an older C wall.
[11:38] What typically gets done with this type of C wall is what we call an overpore.
[11:43] So they're going to dial in steel reinforcing into the existing C wall.
[11:49] and then they will encapsulate that C-wall with concrete and reinforcing steel on the inside
[11:55] on the waterward side above and on the landlord side.
[12:01] And do you believe you can complete all the tasks by did you say October?
[12:05] We're hoping we're hoping October yes sir. So we have we have to do the design in our office
[12:11] and then we have to send it out to bid for a couple of contractors. All that takes probably
[12:16] a month or a month and a half, and then we have to go through the town process, which I believe
[12:20] takes somewhere probably on the range of six to eight weeks to get a building permit, then
[12:25] we have to have the contractor mobilize, and then a couple of months to have them do the
[12:30] actual construction.
[12:33] Thank you.
[12:34] Okay, Chris, is it a replacement or a repair that you're doing?
[12:40] It's an over-poor, so we are going to basically leave what's there and encapsulate it on all sides front top and the landlord side.
[12:52] What are our side top and landlord side?
[12:54] On the landlord side, I couldn't tell from the photos, is there leakage into causing any type of erosion in the bike trail there or not?
[13:02] So there it appears to be that the dirt on the landlord side has leaked through in certain
[13:09] spots.
[13:10] When you look at it from the water outside, there's no real apparent showing or areas that
[13:16] appear where sand has deposited and come through the wall.
[13:19] But there does appear to be a slight depression between the dirt and the bike trail.
[13:26] I believe the owner or somebody
[13:30] down or hired somebody to put up some
[13:33] like orange-phasicking plastic fence.
[13:36] You can talk about that.
[13:38] So my question is, with that a full permit
[13:41] is there anything you can do
[13:43] to prevent any type of damage
[13:45] to the landlord side?
[13:47] In other words, the bike trail
[13:48] or any hazard, if there were, you know,
[13:50] obviously we're getting into storm season
[13:52] and wash out.
[13:53] So, I sent this to Paul Brazil and Patricia today and let them know that we have received the permit and I will reach out to them to see what if anything we can do from a town permitting perspective, you know, to actually make sure that there's no further erosion.
[14:11] Would you agree? I mean obviously you're going to need time and I think October is ambitious. Would you agree to the extent necessary that you would ensure to some degree that you can
[14:22] Within the confines of the permitting process that no damage to the by trail or landward side take place can you do that or I can assure you that we'll do everything we can to make sure that does not happen
[14:33] So I will set up a meeting with public works
[14:36] and I will see what we can do working with them
[14:39] to make sure that nothing happens there.
[14:40] Obviously, we don't want anyone to get heard there.
[14:43] We did get the fence up and that was something
[14:44] that staff asked us to do just to get rid of that hazard.
[14:47] So no one drove the bike off of the...
[14:49] I just worry about somebody walking on the bike trail
[14:52] to show you what that's happened.
[14:53] I mean, that's not supposed to happen,
[14:55] but just in terms of what I saw there.
[14:57] Last question is, is October really realistic?
[15:01] You know, I'm trying not to be obnoxious, I think that that's achievable, but if you want to give us a little cushion, I would appreciate that.
[15:09] With the understanding that we will address any safety concerns.
[15:13] As long as you all are addressing me, my biggest concern is obviously I don't like see anyone drag back in just to report.
[15:19] It's taken longer than we thought.
[15:21] So I tend to build in more of a cushion, but also in this instance, a little bit concerned because of the public access that everything is done to make sure that it doesn't
[15:29] in the interim, create a hazard, if that can be remediated, do something to go.
[15:34] Well, why don't we, if, if, and again, this is your pleasure, November might be a good
[15:39] time to come and report before season starts in earnest, and so we'll do everything we can to
[15:44] beat that deadline.
[15:46] And I promise I'll work with staff to try to see what we're going to need to show them.
[15:49] Okay.
[15:50] Mr. McGowan.
[15:51] Yes.
[15:53] Matthew or Jamie, is there any kind of an engineer, an engineering report that's required
[15:59] of evaluation that's required before you do this over port to, you know, to make sure that
[16:04] the existing structure is going to be able to, you know, have integrity once, once that process
[16:11] is completed.
[16:12] Well, our office will analyze the, what's there, and we pretty much have already, and it's
[16:17] okay, it's, it, it doesn't need to be super duper structurally strong, it's just an old concrete
[16:28] and block wall, adding the way that this type of C wall is with it being a gravity wall,
[16:35] basically it's so wide at the base and it's so massive that it resists the overturning forces
[16:42] from the soil. So what's there is solid enough to use and to do the over-pour.
[16:51] Okay, so when you say a gravity wall, you're talking about that the base of this is very,
[16:55] why it literally looks. It's on top of the lake bed, type of thing is across to being way down,
[17:00] deep into it. Correct. So there's natural limestone rock in this location. That's very shallow.
[17:09] Just below the surface of the sand. Okay. Good. It gets poured onto that. So that's what was originally
[17:14] done for the sea wall that's there. It was originally poured down to the natural limestone rock.
[17:19] Well, unfortunately, you've had my new cracks that have let a little bit of sand come through.
[17:26] All right.
[17:27] Thank you.
[17:27] Okay.
[17:29] My apologies and advance, because this is not working.
[17:31] I'm just looking around for being whites.
[17:33] Mr. Fried.
[17:33] Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[17:35] Yeah.
[17:35] Yeah, I'm in on.
[17:36] Of course, there's a fairly complicated situation we have here.
[17:39] I suppose.
[17:42] I think that we would hope to be able to avoid getting into the season with whatever needs
[17:50] to be done.
[17:52] So in terms of granting you more time, I would certainly, personally, not have a problem
[17:58] with that.
[17:59] But I would nevertheless think that it might be very helpful if you could come back in a
[18:05] couple of months.
[18:06] This is my feeling and just give us an update on where we're at in terms of permitting any new issues with regard to the work that you're actually going to be doing to the wall, maybe there's some changes that are going to be happening.
[18:22] But at the end of the day, you need some time. That's clear.
[18:28] Without putting, you know, under, under, under pressure and I kind of thing, I would say, you know, give you a lot of time.
[18:35] really, but at the same time, I'd like to have you come back and give us an update as to
[18:40] how things are progressing rather than just let it run you know until the end of that time.
[18:45] That's fair. How about August? We'll come back and we'll now hear August. May, that's June, July.
[18:50] August, that's three months? Yes, sir. Three months from this meeting? That would certainly be fine with me.
[18:56] How about the troubles of the ground? Miss somebody, do you have a question?
[19:00] Well, I think it's already in. Okay. There are some more lights, Mr. Cohen.
[19:05] Yes, no, I'm sorry, a question for the engineer, given a mild hurricane with the wool
[19:10] survive.
[19:14] Oh, that is an answer that unfortunately I can't, it's a question I cannot answer.
[19:20] That worries me more about somebody carrying through to, okay.
[19:23] Why don't we do this, Mr. Crowe, the consensus seems to be that you get more time, I'm not
[19:30] sure exactly how much time there seems to be a little discrepancy between Mr. Frieden, Mr.
[19:36] but maybe Chris, you would like to make a motion, we'll see where we go.
[19:39] And again, I would just suggest that perhaps a letter giving us some advice.
[19:44] It's to what's going on as opposed to, you know, putting coming here, you know,
[19:48] you're obviously on top of this, you're going to work as diligent as you can.
[19:51] It would be appropriate to me if you just send a letter to code by the August time meeting,
[19:57] saying, this is where we are, this is where we are at.
[19:59] I'm in danger.
[20:02] We're not going to meet it, if you're not going to meet it, then you probably say maybe we should get back on the agenda before that time.
[20:09] But I don't think it's, to me, it's not necessary for you to come in and have to do this.
[20:14] We know where you are, but just to kind of let us know, November looks good.
[20:20] I'm in favor of November, so I'm going to make a motion that number one, with regard
[20:26] to case number C-E-25-151, via sunny, with regard to the C-wall, a finding of non-compliance
[20:35] and administrative cost in the amount of $150, a recommendation, or excuse me, that a compliance
[20:42] state shall be extended to our...
[20:44] I'm just a compliance state of November 17th or the case will return for a fine consideration
[20:54] at the November 20th hearing.
[20:57] So if I extend it to November 17th or the case will come before us for the fine consideration
[21:04] and then November meeting that in the interim by our August meeting, which is what they follow.
[21:11] August 21st.
[21:12] that owner before August 21st, you'll send us a letter
[21:16] giving us an update and advising whether or not
[21:18] the November date of compliance appears to be realistic.
[21:23] And if you feel that it does not, then you will schedule
[21:26] a time to come back before the board
[21:28] and give us an update and seek additional time if necessary.
[21:32] Okay, second.
[21:34] Good.
[21:35] Motion's been made.
[21:36] Thank you.
[21:36] Mr. Krita's question.
[21:37] Yes.
[21:37] I would be opposed to the motion the way it's being read
[21:41] because I understand that nobody wants to, well,
[21:45] it's a group we don't want people that undo trouble,
[21:47] but at the same time, I don't think a letter
[21:49] quite suffices for the simple reason
[21:51] that whatever's in the letter will receive it,
[21:54] but I think it might be useful to have an opportunity.
[21:58] You can provide us a letter,
[22:00] but it would be useful to have an opportunity
[22:02] to discuss where you're at with the particular project in person.
[22:07] So, I mean, I'm thinking, you know,
[22:09] much like you suggested, Mr. Crowley, if you were able to come back and just update us, that would be my preference, I would be opposed to the motion, the way it's dated.
[22:21] I tell you, but if you put me first on the agenda, again, I'll have no problem coming back.
[22:25] We have a motion and a second.
[22:28] But I understand what Mr. Harris is asking, so it either has to pass.
[22:31] Well, we're just going to get to that point.
[22:34] It looks like our counter attorney wants to weigh in.
[22:37] I was going to.
[22:38] You're discussing.
[22:39] Similar sentiments.
[22:40] Yeah, once the motion's made in second and in discussion stays on.
[22:43] No longer the applicant.
[22:44] If it doesn't pass, we can go back to that.
[22:47] Mr. One more year.
[22:48] Green right arm.
[22:50] No.
[22:50] Okay.
[22:51] All right.
[22:52] Okay.
[22:52] I may not belabor it.
[22:55] But isn't there something that we have experienced before,
[22:59] where let's say there is a motion as we have now.
[23:01] There's been a second.
[23:02] But isn't there an opportunity for the board to discuss the motion
[23:05] and rather than have it put to a vote?
[23:07] We are having that discussion, you noticed I did not cut you off, just to clarify, I would never do that.
[23:18] The only point we were raising is there's no more discussion with the applicant after a second.
[23:22] The discussion is just, you can't talk to him.
[23:25] Yeah.
[23:26] Everything I've said is growl, it's a men's city use.
[23:31] Okay.
[23:32] Ladies and gentlemen, the motion has been made in second it, all in favor.
[23:36] Say aye.
[23:38] Aye.
[23:38] Aye.
[23:38] Any opposed?
[23:40] No.
[23:41] Okay.
[23:42] Motion passes.
[23:44] Looks like seven, six to one.
[23:47] Six one.
[23:48] Mr. Kelly, thank you for coming.
[23:50] Thank you for.
[23:51] Thank you for accommodating me, Marty.
[23:52] and we'll do everything in our power to make sure we get this done as quickly as possible.
[23:56] Thank you.
[23:57] Okay.
[24:01] Moving along rapidly, that takes us to item A, C-E-K-C-E-24-1-0-333-332 South County Road.
[24:14] Office of Moriarty.
[24:16] This is case 24-1033.
[24:20] Excuse me.
[24:21] Property address is 332 South County Road, Palm Beach, Florida.
[24:25] The owner is 332 South County Road.
[24:29] Okay, sir.
[24:30] Any ex-party communication?
[24:33] Hearing none, please proceed, sir.
[24:36] No, just a point of...
[24:38] Yes, sir.
[24:39] Exactly.
[24:39] If you can click that.
[24:40] Thank you.
[24:41] There are two cases on the agenda for the same property.
[24:47] This we refer to as the structural case,
[24:49] The structural issues that exist in the property and the following case would be fire safety.
[24:58] Continuing now with the case.
[25:00] This was a complaint from both fire department and planning zoning and building. The building is a vacant property, vacant commercial building, which was originally inspected by members of FD and PZB April 26th and April 30th, 2024. The violations found with Section 88-18, exterior property maintenance, 88-19, interior property maintenance, and Section 88-19, interior property maintenance.
[25:29] 28-23 insect and rodent infestation.
[25:36] There is one photograph that I took, this is the exterior of the building.
[25:41] As I mentioned earlier, the properties vacant, and it's secure in that knowing can get in
[25:47] there.
[25:51] I'd like to enter this photograph into the record.
[25:55] Excuse me.
[25:56] Certified mail was not delivered, I posted the property on April 11, 2025, and I'd like to enter
[26:02] the copy of that notice into the record.
[26:08] Our recommendation is a finding of non-compliance
[26:11] hearing costs in the amount of $150
[26:14] and a compliance date of June 23rd, 2025.
[26:20] And there are representatives here from fire and planning
[26:23] zoning and building to answer any questions
[26:26] that the board may have.
[26:28] Okay, there's the board of any questions of the town.
[26:31] I do.
[26:33] But let's see if my colleagues have any questions.
[26:37] I see no.
[26:38] Yes.
[26:39] One green line.
[26:39] When you're looking at the conditions of vacant building now,
[26:43] and am I correct in that?
[26:45] Do you know what is it going to be reconstructed?
[26:48] For sale or what would that be?
[26:50] I don't know the particulars.
[26:52] I'm simply in this particular case.
[26:54] As you've noticed, we've had some of these recently.
[26:56] I'm simply the presenter of the case.
[26:58] What is compliance?
[27:03] That's my question.
[27:04] What would we have to, what would have to be done?
[27:06] That would be determined by the town building
[27:08] Official and the fire Marshall.
[27:11] So they have to come in.
[27:11] They're here today to testify.
[27:13] Okay, that's fine.
[27:14] I'll say my question, so then thanks.
[27:16] Appreciate it.
[27:18] It's great.
[27:20] Okay.
[27:20] Again, I apologize.
[27:22] The iPad isn't working.
[27:23] Sorry.
[27:24] Just have to look for green lights.
[27:29] Seeing none, Mr. Brett Marshall, do we want to hear from planning and zoning and the fire department first?
[27:37] Or do we want to hear from the owner?
[27:41] Yeah, the town staff needs to put firewood.
[27:44] Yeah, that's when I would suggest, I see the fire Marshall and I see Mr. Bergman.
[27:51] So, if either of you would like to speak now as the times are, I have a question, would the
[27:57] fire department be more appropriate to listen to the next case since we have separate cases?
[28:02] The next case is in reference to the fire violation.
[28:04] Right.
[28:05] So, if we're just deciding on this case, should we only need to listen to planning and zoning
[28:09] at the same time?
[28:10] Yes.
[28:10] So, whichever one their testimony is applicable to, we're treating them as two individual
[28:15] cases.
[28:16] Mr. Bergman, it's good to see you, sir.
[28:18] Again?
[28:18] Good afternoon.
[28:20] So, yes, please.
[28:23] Wayne Vargman, director of planning zoning building, also the towns building official.
[28:28] Just to add some clarity to Mr. Maurerides testimony earlier, when we made our initial inspection
[28:33] of this property, code enforcement was did join us.
[28:37] Code enforcement officer did join us for that inspection.
[28:40] And when Mr. Maurerides said that the building was secure, I would like to correct that
[28:44] and say that there are some missing windows.
[28:46] some broken and damaged windows.
[28:50] We found building very dilapidated on the interior, the deterioration of the building was
[28:57] directly related to the fact that the roof was leaking, severely leaking.
[29:00] Water coming through the roof, rotting, damaging the ceiling, the floor, the floors,
[29:07] walls, every level, every story we walk through, the floors were questionable, whether
[29:14] They were safe to stand on a lot of damage, especially in what the owner referred to as the
[29:20] rear of the building, not the ten inch face up front on the ground floor, but the back
[29:25] of the building.
[29:27] We did work with the property owner and the property owner did put a roof, a new roof on
[29:32] the building.
[29:33] So that was step one to start making the repairs to bring this building into compliance.
[29:39] But the interior, not the exterior, but the interior structure of the building still needs
[29:43] to be rebuilt, reconstructed, and that's what we are today, and I know that the property owner
[29:49] has presented a general schedule of the work he would like to do going forward, and we have
[29:58] No doubt, I have no doubt that that work.
[30:00] We'll continue, but it's I think it's more of a question of the timing and whether or not you would like to put some constraints on the schedule.
[30:11] And I know that's what the fire marshal is here to testify about as well, and I'll let you hear it from him.
[30:16] That's kind of where we are.
[30:17] Okay, Mr. Armourier is going to ask you a question.
[30:19] Just, you know, in looking at, I know where the building is. Is it landmark?
[30:24] Yes, it is.
[30:26] Does that change anything about what happens with code, does landmark have to approve everything that needs to be done?
[30:36] There's very little work on the exterior that needs to be done unless the property owner wishes to do so.
[30:42] And if he wishes to change the exterior materials or design, we would ask him to take that to the landmarks preservation commission in the form of a certificate of appropriateness request.
[30:54] All of the work we're focusing on today has to do with the interior structural condition
[30:59] of the building and the missing windows, some of the broken glass.
[31:03] If, for example, the windows are repaired.
[31:06] I'm just trying to figure out what is compliance in order to look at how long it takes.
[31:12] When you say the interior is deteriorated, is it because the walls of collapse or, you know,
[31:18] really or is it plaster that's fallen in because at least it's a combination.
[31:22] It's unfortunate that code did not bring, you know, recent pictures or more current pictures
[31:27] of the interior, because that's really what we're focusing on today.
[31:31] It's a combination of everything you described, but it was all resulting from the water damage
[31:35] of water pouring through the roof, damaging the timber framing of the interior.
[31:41] What would you expect, just kind of, I know it's maybe not even a question you can answer,
[31:46] to be in compliance on this one.
[31:50] What would you expect that would have to be done
[31:52] in the timing and permitting process for achieving that?
[31:56] What would you expect that one?
[31:57] I can't answer that at this moment,
[31:59] but I'd like to hear from the property owner
[32:01] the schedule that he would like to propose.
[32:04] What work would take place first, second, third,
[32:07] how long he believes it will take?
[32:08] And perhaps with that schedule on the record,
[32:10] we could...
[32:11] You'd come back and visit like that.
[32:12] Absolutely.
[32:13] I think that'd be the fair thing to do.
[32:14] chair to the owner for us. All right. Thank you, appreciate it. Okay, Mr. Frig. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[32:20] Mr. Bergman. Life safety issues, just looking at the structural issues that I understand we're addressing at the moment.
[32:30] Life safety issues and what you see there. Well, certainly if anybody does go into the building, there's a life safety concern.
[32:37] And I think the farm marshal is probably better suited to testify if somebody broke into the building.
[32:42] If the fire department or the police department needed to gain access to the building, especially
[32:46] at night when there's not light, that is the concern that public safety people have with
[32:52] this building.
[32:53] That's like from practical standpoint, the building is vacant.
[32:56] The building is, once the windows are repaired, the building will be secure, and there's no worry
[33:01] during the day that somebody is just going to wander in there off the street.
[33:06] I don't know whether this is a proper question or not, but I think Council or Carleb will
[33:09] certainly correct me. Is this been ongoing for a while? Is this just a new matter that's being brought before us today?
[33:17] I can only venture to guess that this is decades worth of deterioration.
[33:22] But we've only been involved in it for just over a little over a year.
[33:26] Thank you, sir.
[33:26] And I can say this on the record regarding the property owner.
[33:30] He has committed to me to repair the roof first and he followed through with that.
[33:35] So I do believe there is an expectation on my part that this property owner will make the repairs.
[33:41] The question is just what schedule and timing will be followed.
[33:45] Thank you.
[33:46] Okay, seeing no more of questions from the board to the town.
[33:51] Sir, we invite you to speak.
[33:54] Could you please just tell us your name for the record?
[33:56] Mr. Corne.
[33:57] You swear or affirm that the testimony about the gift is the whole truth.
[34:00] Nothing about the truth.
[34:01] Sir, have you gone?
[34:02] Please take your name for the record.
[34:03] My name is Gene Liter. I'm a attorney and I'm standing in representing Mr. Roddy. Mr. Roddy
[34:11] is normally represented by George Ord. Mr. Ord unfortunately had some heart valve surgery this
[34:19] week and was unable to be here. I called Town Council to see if I can get a matter rescheduled
[34:27] And basically I told me that this was going forward.
[34:31] So I'm here, I'm trying to get up to speed as much as possible in this matter.
[34:36] I thought there was actually one case, which is the 2025 Fire Safety.
[34:43] I didn't know about the 2024 matter, 24-1033, which is what we're on now,
[34:52] until Mr.
[34:53] will actually kind of sit there's two cases and I looked at the agenda and here we are.
[35:01] Mr. Roddy's here, he can explain exactly what he's been doing. He does have a schedule that he's been
[35:11] working on for a couple of days. He can testify to the schedule. You can answer any questions
[35:18] that you have. He has lined up contractors to do the work and he can explain that to you as
[35:25] And one of the problems that I have been missing a little more, you struck it right in the head.
[35:29] I'm this first.
[35:31] On this matter, what is compliance?
[35:33] We don't know.
[35:34] And if you don't know, when we don't know how do we comply.
[35:38] But what we're willing to do, whatever needs to be done to comply.
[35:41] And with that, I will turn it over to Mr. Roddy and he can explain what he's been doing.
[35:46] And he's got to show, he has handouts for you.
[35:48] I don't know how you want to do that.
[35:50] Can I bring it up to you?
[35:51] Sure.
[35:52] Mr. Roddy, welcome, sir.
[35:53] Thank you.
[35:56] By the way, one of the questions we will determine is what is compliant.
[36:04] I'm sorry, Sagan, please.
[36:06] We're trying to ask the train.
[36:08] Do you swear or affirm that the testimony about to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing about the truth?
[36:12] So how do you got?
[36:13] I do.
[36:14] Space station name for the record.
[36:15] Robert Andrew Roddy, I'm a town resident and I own 332 South County road.
[36:22] through, it's D3-2, South Canerode, come at LLC's, the owner.
[36:28] And it was built by my grandfather in 1935,
[36:32] it's a Marisa Fatio design.
[36:34] I have over time been restoring the property
[36:38] from the front to the back and from the outside in.
[36:42] This represents the 10th large scale restoration project
[36:47] for that building.
[36:49] I've restored the entire front of the building
[36:52] When I received it from my Moses State in 2002, the entire front of the building was suffering
[37:00] from spalling.
[37:02] So heavy that underneath the second floor windows, and underneath the first floor storefront
[37:08] windows, the spalling was so bad, it went completely through to the inside.
[37:12] The overhang around the front was heavily spalled, that was the first major project.
[37:18] From there, I worked my way in, new storefront windows, restored the draws of floor on the storefront.
[37:28] There's three rooms in the storefront, new Venetian plaster, new LED lighting, new electrical, expanded electrical, new bathroom fixtures, new AC system.
[37:44] I had a tenant in there for some time, it's now due for a refresh, and I hope to have that done by this coming season.
[37:55] Beyond that, spalling on the south side, all three floors, heavy spalling that was the third project.
[38:02] The fourth project was all of the cast iron drain pipes throughout the building, down underground and out to the back where replaced with PVC, because cast iron has a limited life and it all deteriorates.
[38:20] The third floor sun decks were repaired.
[38:24] And most recently the roof was repaired.
[38:28] Foundation issues were taken care of, structural issues were taken care of.
[38:33] The 3,000 square foot privacy wall on the north side of the courtyard, the entire
[38:37] backside, all of the concrete beams and columns had to be stripped out because of spawning
[38:44] and replaced with high-strength steel and high-strength concrete.
[38:50] And so it's been quite a process over many years.
[38:56] It's been difficult.
[39:00] It's quite a challenge because any older property,
[39:05] especially this one, it's nine years old.
[39:07] It takes two, three times, four times amount of effort.
[39:14] financially, it's not a good business model.
[39:19] This is why people will tear it out of building like mine
[39:22] and construct something new from the ground up.
[39:25] And this is why we've lost so many historically significant properties over time.
[39:32] People just don't want to have to deal with this stress
[39:35] and the financial burden of this sort of a project.
[39:39] But this is my last tenth and last large scale restoration project after this it's down to, you know, whether, whether or not I want to replace the windows was stormrated windows or something.
[39:53] So I'm looking forward to getting you with the bulk of this will be done before season starts.
[40:00] Mr. Rodney, just a quick question. Have you shared this document with Mr. Bergman?
[40:05] I have not yet distributed them now. Did you decide to?
[40:12] Would you share it with Mr. Bergman and the fire marshal with?
[40:17] Now the damage that we all saw was from the roof.
[40:28] It was from the old roof leaking, and unfortunately flat roofs will fail without warning.
[40:37] Up until a point it could be patched, it would be fine for another year or so, and so everything
[40:45] was okay.
[40:46] But around, I think it was March of last year, it failed across the entire roof, and that
[40:53] was the end of it.
[40:54] I mean, it was a disaster.
[40:58] Half of all the rooms,
[41:02] the doors are on the south side.
[41:04] When you go in, there's a kitchen area
[41:07] and a bathroom and then the back area is the bedroom.
[41:10] And the back area, which is a north side
[41:11] of all of the units and all three floors,
[41:14] all of that was done by Jack Vogel previously.
[41:18] The walls and ceilings were in good shape.
[41:21] And so there was none of the degradation that we saw when it was inspected.
[41:27] That all happened the beginning of last year.
[41:30] So this wasn't over time, this was at that time.
[41:35] So yes, I have a GCM working with and based on the schedule, the vast majority of this
[41:44] should be done by time the season starts and then it'll be small projects throughout which
[41:50] If you don't have any effect on the general public or the town, it will be all inside and
[41:56] will be in the back.
[41:57] Okay, thank you, sir.
[41:58] We'll do have a few more questions for you, I think.
[42:01] Before you start, these are pictures that are provided to you from the Building Official Wayne
[42:05] Bergman.
[42:10] Mr. Fried, questions from Mr. Rotter.
[42:12] Yeah, thank you Mr. Chairman.
[42:14] How are you, Mr. Rotter?
[42:15] Nice to see you.
[42:17] Have you decided to contract with a contractor?
[42:21] We have a verbal agreement.
[42:23] He hasn't finalized the, or, what's the term I want to think of.
[42:29] He hasn't presented the contract to me yet, but it's the contractors and the, the,
[42:37] their
[42:38] Mac enterprises and that's the third page in.
[42:43] I have posted an annual facilities permit, which is something that allows me to go forward
[42:49] and then the contractor will do whatever the contractor is in charge of, but I've already
[42:56] started moving forward doing clean out prep work and getting it ready to, you know, this
[43:03] is all in the front room, this is not the back room.
[43:07] So sometimes soon you'll actually enter into a little contract, that's the plan.
[43:12] Yes. He's formalizing that now. I met with him this morning, so yeah, and they have a great deal of experience with older properties, going back to the late 1800s, so it's their opinion that the medic can be wrapped up sort of September or Octobercon.
[43:32] I would say by November, I'm confident that it can be done this off season the bulk of it.
[43:41] What we're planning on doing is first we have to have a demolition company removes the ceilings and the floors.
[43:50] And then the contractors are going to go in with carpenters to repair the subfloors.
[43:55] And, and repair the ceiling joists and the floor joists.
[44:00] Those are the structural components.
[44:05] The leaks caused significant damage to the floors,
[44:09] but only on the far east side and the far west side.
[44:13] We were able to, during the inspection, walk throughout the inside of the building
[44:17] on all three floors without any potential harm.
[44:22] So, you know, that the worst areas would be on the far east side and the far west side.
[44:29] Those were, I guess, where the water puddled and then it came in from leaking.
[44:33] I just understood.
[44:34] But as we speak, it's imminent that you would be entering and do a contact with a jab, with Mac.
[44:41] Oh, yeah.
[44:41] Yeah.
[44:42] Okay.
[44:42] I never excited about starting the project.
[44:46] So, yeah.
[44:47] Okay.
[44:47] Happy to meet you.
[44:48] Thank you, Mr. Rodding.
[44:49] Mr. Broker is next.
[44:50] Just a question, it just in terms of timeline.
[44:54] When was the last time that this building, whether it be retail or residential was...
[45:00] Actually, I just, just, Charlotte Kellogg was my last tenant. And she moved out, I don't recall when it's been, it's probably been a couple years. And she, she has a store now and we're having a new. The storefront just needs a new AC system. And beyond that, just a slight, you know, a light refresh, repair a little bit of plaster, some paintwork around the storefront.
[45:30] windows, and I can get another tenant in there.
[45:34] So it's fair to say it's been a number of years, I think,
[45:37] as Mr. Bergman stated, that the damage that he saw inside the building
[45:42] was probably not just happened recently, happened over a day.
[45:47] Great, no, there's no damage to the storefront or the second floor
[45:52] in the front of the building.
[45:53] This is all in the back, and it all happened because of the leaks,
[45:56] and the leaks didn't start until the beginning of last year.
[45:59] Now, the roof was installed in November, and the reason it was installed in November is
[46:06] Carpenter's roofing, which is probably the best roofing company in South Florida.
[46:10] They had a backlog, so they couldn't install the roof until November.
[46:15] And of course, we had a heavy rainy season, which made the roof leaks worse, and also made
[46:20] their backlog longer.
[46:22] So we did our best to make sure that, or as much as possible, make sure the leaks were
[46:27] taken care of in the interim, and then Carpenter's went in, and they removed the entire
[46:33] original roof, repaired all of the woodwork, and installed the first-class high-quality
[46:40] 1-inch thick flat roof in seven working days, which is remarkable, I think.
[46:48] So I'm very pleased about that.
[46:52] Everything's lining up.
[46:53] I just have to keep it moving forward.
[46:55] That's all.
[46:56] Okay, let's do this. Mr. Royale is inpatient, let him weigh in and then we'll come back to
[47:00] Creducos.
[47:02] Yes.
[47:03] I think that this is going to take a little bit of time because we have this structural
[47:07] engineer needs to provide a report and then there might be some building plans.
[47:15] I'm sorry.
[47:15] I'm providing some structural engineering report.
[47:18] Well, it's engaged the personal May 12.
[47:21] Tom, too, is the engineer he's going to do the engineering for the four IBMs in the court yard.
[47:29] They're structurally sound.
[47:30] They're not detached or anything like that, but they have where and tear that need to be addressed.
[47:37] But I might have the interior work.
[47:38] We'll need some building plans.
[47:41] I'm sorry.
[47:42] Building plans for the interior?
[47:44] It's all going to be like for like, they'll need engineering.
[47:47] You know, if they're structural and need engineering, but I don't know that they would need plans because it's all going to be like for like it's there's not going to be anything new in a new place
[47:57] It's all, you know, if you take out one being you put in another
[48:01] So but don't be detailed
[48:03] I think I'm not
[48:04] Yeah, because I'm not engineers. So I'm not okay. What can we we're going to come to Mr. Bergman in a second. I suspect
[48:13] I want to just see if I understand some history.
[48:17] Did you have issues with this building in code enforcement about 10 or 11 years ago?
[48:22] Yeah, it's been ongoing and I don't understand it because it's a historic landmark property.
[48:31] And so, you know, every older building has a to-do list.
[48:35] And it starts out as a very big list and then you work your way through the projects and get smaller over time.
[48:41] but it always exists.
[48:44] And so, yeah, if I interrupt you for him
[48:47] because my concern, I'm going to be very kind with you.
[48:50] Is that case when in the litigation,
[48:52] there was an attempted foreclosure,
[48:56] you thought it, code enforcement.
[48:58] It was sort of the same thing here that what was compliance
[49:01] because the building was in such bad condition
[49:04] that it took everything, is this the bad rotten beam
[49:08] that has to be replaced, which leads to something
[49:10] else which leads to something else. And my concern is I'm very, I'm very
[49:14] kind of, I don't see this something that happened in three months. I mean, you
[49:19] know, back or the front. And if you own a building, I would think you would
[49:24] notice that the roof is leaking in a regular basis. So my, my concern is, and
[49:28] I'll be very kind of, this is to me as one of those cases, follow the town. You
[49:32] got 30 days. If you're working hard, you can come back for fine modification, but
[49:38] You know, this sort of vague, we're going to do this on this day and this on another day and I got to get this person in.
[49:45] I mean, it's in really, you know, the question, would you sleep there overnight, and the answer is, well, no way.
[49:53] I would.
[49:53] Because we talked about to the average, you're the owner.
[49:56] I'm talking about what the average person say, this is some.
[50:00] In a place that has been tended to and maintained over a period of time. And in order our job is to achieve compliance. And I just do not, honestly, not candidly, not buying the idea that this happened on a emergency basis when you suddenly had a leaky roof and you finally got the roof fixed. And all of this suddenly just appeared. I'm not buying that. What I'm looking at is someone that's had experience with code issues that has a building that has experienced with code issues.
[50:30] code issues that knows the history of the building having to be constantly maintained because
[50:36] it's an older building just like so many of our good properties in the town and you've
[50:40] got people on either side of you that are paying rent or owning buildings and that the town
[50:46] comes to us and says you've got broken windows you've got other issues that we're going to deal
[50:50] with the next case but I'm one of those people that says look you could have been dealing with this
[50:55] before today, May 12th is the letter where you say,
[50:59] I'm going to get somebody out there.
[51:00] I'm in one of those people very candidly that says,
[51:03] look, we'll give you 30 days.
[51:06] You can then at which point you return
[51:08] for fine consideration.
[51:10] And if you say there's only one or two items left on the punch list,
[51:14] we can delay the finding for a little bit longer.
[51:17] But I'm not seeing this as November comes along and you go,
[51:21] well, I thought compliance was putting some pain on the wall.
[51:24] I see electrical problems.
[51:27] No, no, no, no.
[51:27] So any of it, that's my comments.
[51:29] You know, again, I thought in my question to you,
[51:33] where is the definitive nature of when I look at this and says,
[51:38] if you're not going to have this done by such and such a day,
[51:42] you acknowledge that you're going to be fine every day there after.
[51:46] I'm not seeing that.
[51:47] I'm seeing sort of vague, what's compliance, what is in compliance.
[51:50] I'm going to do the best I can.
[51:52] I'm starting at late. This has been going on for at least a year and so now all of a sudden it's the last hour
[51:59] You're saying well, maybe in November, maybe by season maybe not by season
[52:04] No, I'm telling you by this by season that the vast majority of this is going to be done
[52:09] But I think that's best, but you'll see
[52:11] The neighbors may be different. Thanks. Yeah, I've said my piece. Okay, I like the roof
[52:16] The roof wasn't installed until November. Now November is the end of the off season
[52:21] The only time that I can do substantial work at that property is during the off season,
[52:28] which started May 1st.
[52:30] So between November and May 1st, I can't get a contractor in there and get the right-of-way
[52:38] permits that are necessary for him to do his work.
[52:41] It's not the town won't allow it, so I can tell you how much I want my supposed to do
[52:47] anything.
[52:47] I think you answered Mr. Larmory this question Mr. Bergman has been patient.
[52:52] It looks, he wants to add something.
[52:55] I just, my attention was grabbed about the fact that plans would not be required.
[52:59] Plan would be required, but as Mr. Rottie said, it might be a typical spec for replacing
[53:05] a damaged truss or a damaged joist.
[53:10] This building doesn't need to be redesigned, it just needs to be reframed on the interior.
[53:16] But yes, we would require plans of some type prepared by either an engineer or an architect to issue a permit.
[53:25] OK. Mr. Rodgers or anything else you would like to add?
[53:29] Well, just that all of this damage was due to leaks.
[53:35] The leaks started around March of last year when the roof started to fail.
[53:41] That's just the way it is.
[53:44] Before then, the roof could be patched and it'd be good for a while.
[53:49] But yeah, no, it started to fail around March of last year.
[53:52] And that's when I signed a contract with Carpenter's Roofing
[53:56] to replace the roof.
[53:58] It was replaced.
[53:59] That protects everything below it.
[54:02] So it's, you know, it's weather tight.
[54:05] There are a couple of windows that the glass needs to be replaced.
[54:07] But that's not a hard thing to do.
[54:13] And I had a contractor that repaired all of the ceilings and walls, and even the baseboard
[54:24] in the back rooms, that's a picture you didn't see.
[54:28] But they were all in good condition before the roof leaks.
[54:32] And so, you know, that's...
[54:35] Let me ask you this,
[54:39] Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, go ahead.
[54:42] I have heard everything.
[54:45] I sort of fall on the side of Mr. Farmerier on this one.
[54:51] I would be much more comfortable seeing you on a regular basis
[54:55] and having you come back and indicate where you are.
[54:59] Right?
[55:00] Then give us something that, well, listen, this is the guide.
[55:03] I may be the guide. I'd rather hear from you as to how much progress you've made. And I'm going
[55:10] to look to Mr. Bergman as well. You haven't shared this with him except today.
[55:17] Well, we work together over the other day. That's fine. But there seems to be some history here. And
[55:24] I think we're sort of persuaded by our colleague, Mr.
[55:28] One more A, and I think, at least for me,
[55:31] I'm not comfortable letting this sit.
[55:35] So with that, I'm looking to any of my colleagues who
[55:38] want to say anything, Mr. Fried.
[55:40] I'll make a motion.
[55:41] Please, Chairman, if you're ready.
[55:42] May I say something before you start?
[55:45] I'm fine coming back and reporting as things progress.
[55:48] If you want to do that, in that way, that's perfectly fine.
[55:51] I have a contractor, I have everything lined up, it's already started, so.
[55:57] Okay.
[55:57] Let's Mr. Fritz.
[55:59] Yes, sir.
[55:59] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[56:00] Thank you, Mr. Roddy.
[56:01] I'd like to move the council's recommendation of finding
[56:04] a non-compliance, assessed administrative fee, and amount of $150.
[56:09] To be paid within 30 days of this order, and to come into compliance by June 23rd,
[56:14] or this case will return for fine consideration
[56:18] at the June 26th, 2025 Code Board hearing.
[56:23] Okay, is there a second to the motion?
[56:25] Second. Okay, a motion from May,
[56:27] I'm Mr. Fried, second by Mr. McGowan,
[56:29] all in favor.
[56:30] Hi.
[56:30] I'm a new post.
[56:33] Okay, Mr. Rady, thank you.
[56:43] Okay.
[56:45] Office of Moriarty.
[56:46] This is the B.
[56:48] 25, 7.84, this is what you call the fire ratio.
[56:53] That sounds applicable.
[56:56] Case number 25, 7.84.
[56:59] Property address again is 332 South County Road, Palm Beach, Florida.
[57:02] The owner's name is 332 South County Road.
[57:05] Okay, is our next party communication?
[57:08] Hearing seeing none, please proceed, sir.
[57:13] This case is a result of a email from the fire department.
[57:17] This is again a vacant building.
[57:19] the commercial property. This case was open on April 5th, 2025, based on an email from
[57:27] the town fire marshal. The violation found was Section 46-66, which includes fire protection
[57:36] and prevention. The town upright adopts the National Fire Protection Association code.
[57:46] Some
[57:46] of the violations that were spelled out in the farm marshal's email are as noted, standard
[57:54] for doors and opening protectives, debris noted on the stairs, corroded electrical
[58:02] mechanical tubing and unsecured wires, unsafe electrical, building electrical meters
[58:08] not compliant with floor to power and light, no-fire detection devices, anunciation
[58:15] or fire suppression systems, building occupancy separating walls of non-compliant fire
[58:19] resistance ratings, building lacks means of egress and emergency lighting, interior
[58:24] finishes are not compliant, building is non-compliant waste disposal, site security
[58:30] and path of emergency egress.
[58:35] Our town recommendation is a finding of non-compliance costs
[58:39] in the amount of $150 and a complaint state of June 23rd, 2025.
[58:52] Officer Moriarty, great to see you as always.
[58:56] So my concern on this particular fire safety issue is we have a vacant building that is
[59:02] in pretty sad shape, which according to everything I'm reading has no detection system whatsoever
[59:10] within it. So if it should catch on fire, you know, there's no alarm that's going to go off
[59:18] at the fire company and it is a building that is surrounded by others in downtown Palm Beach.
[59:25] So enlighten me a bit as to what the fire code the NFPA says about vacant buildings with no
[59:34] No systems to detect fire, is that a violation, and what do we do about that?
[59:42] Maybe more directed to the fire chief, perhaps, there yourself.
[59:46] You're correct.
[59:47] I think you make valid, really valid points, well, well articulated, and yes, the fire
[59:53] marshal certainly more suited to the answer the question than I am.
[59:56] Thank you, officer.
[59:57] More ready.
[59:59] Mr. Frick.
[1:00:00] Just one quick question. Mr. Moore already, maybe maybe I could ask you this one as well. Just kind of the old chest, not what would they need to do to come into compliance with this particular series of violations?
[1:00:13] Once again, that's not my expertise. That's the fire marshal.
[1:00:17] Okay. Mr. Deloach, we welcome you. We're sorry to make you come up here twice.
[1:00:24] And we just hope that you're well and your knee is improving.
[1:00:29] Marty Deloads, fire marshal of the town of Palm Beach.
[1:00:33] I guess I'd like to combine all the testimony that's happened already.
[1:00:38] So this particular building had been inspected by our crews.
[1:00:43] Every time they went there for a number of years, there was nobody to get a hold of.
[1:00:48] So they marked it as vacant in our records.
[1:00:50] We noticed that long about August of 23.
[1:00:56] We started reaching out to Mr. Roddy to inspect his building.
[1:01:01] In September we had written correspondence to him about inspecting his building.
[1:01:07] Going back and forth and pointing out the conditions in the code that require him by statute,
[1:01:13] or we get a bench warrant to come in, he finally allowed us to inspect his building in April of last year.
[1:01:20] We told him we were going to bring additional expertise, which is allowed in the code book.
[1:01:25] We brought a building official, and we brought the electrical inspector.
[1:01:30] We had, from addition, that there was a lot of violations.
[1:01:34] He did not allow them into the building at that time.
[1:01:36] He refused their entry.
[1:01:38] So myself and one of the inspectors went through.
[1:01:40] We found countless plumbing.
[1:01:44] There's three buildings in this town that have been dilapidated like this.
[1:01:47] One was the Palm House, which is now a beautiful building.
[1:01:50] The other one was the Palm Beach hotel that was here with you with doors and other issues.
[1:01:55] I would say from the three, this one's far worse than the other two.
[1:02:00] The Palm House, my first time going in there, I put out a do not interorder.
[1:02:04] When we went into Mr. Roddy's building,
[1:02:05] we put out a do not interorder to the police and fire.
[1:02:08] It's unsafe.
[1:02:10] It would harm or kill any policeman or fireman chasing perpetrator in there,
[1:02:15] or going in a fight of fire, not aware.
[1:02:17] As Mr. Roddy stated, the roof leaked.
[1:02:21] I'm not sure when the demolition deterioration of the building occurred, but it clearly wasn't
[1:02:26] two years ago, it was long before that.
[1:02:29] There's not a shred of drywall that you could recognize in floors 1, 2, and 3.
[1:02:37] The west side of the building was, I think, where the primary water leak was from the roof.
[1:02:43] There was no ceiling on the third floor.
[1:02:45] There was no floor on the third floor.
[1:02:46] There was no ceiling on the second floor.
[1:02:48] There was no floor on the second floor, and it all had fallen down with the debris from all of those things collapsing into the first floor, which was heavy fire loading.
[1:02:58] The windows on the north side of the building were broken a year ago, they're still broken.
[1:03:04] I think you have been given copies of what Mr. Bergen provided in the building code.
[1:03:09] We also wanted this brought in under the fire code in 2008-24.
[1:03:14] We just came to realize that they didn't file under both from the codeboard.
[1:03:19] The fire violations have been there.
[1:03:21] He's got an 18 unit apartment building that the doors were not secured.
[1:03:27] He sent security to put plywood over them.
[1:03:30] The electric in the back was not secured.
[1:03:32] He sent personal locks on those which could be disconnected at any time.
[1:03:35] There's wires hanging everywhere in the building.
[1:03:37] There's plumbing hanging everywhere in the building.
[1:03:40] He's got those old tile type bricks that are cracked.
[1:03:43] He had a structural engineer look at it.
[1:03:45] He claims to think that they're solid.
[1:03:47] I've seen buildings under renovation with those bricks
[1:03:49] that they've all had to be removed to rebuild place
[1:03:51] because they just had no structural left from the salt there.
[1:03:55] So right now we have a building that has some doors,
[1:03:57] but anywhere that at least one occasion
[1:04:00] a police were chasing a burglar or a bad guy
[1:04:03] through there and they went around and had
[1:04:05] chase them into the building. The bad guy could have gotten hurt really bad. Police officer could have
[1:04:10] got really bad. In the fire code part of the fire code is not just to prevent fires, but to provide
[1:04:14] safety for the first responders. And so I'm not able to do that until this building gets fixed.
[1:04:20] So I hear the question of what's fixed has floors windows doors, drywall, alarm system, smoke detectors.
[1:04:29] Our code requires him to sprinkle that building when he renovates it. It has to be fully sprinkled
[1:04:33] So there's a lot of work.
[1:04:35] So again, he was sighted a year ago in April.
[1:04:38] He put a roof on it.
[1:04:40] He's got iron beams holding a 30 or 40 foot wall
[1:04:43] that he talked about a 3000 square foot wall.
[1:04:45] It's up like a sail in a wind.
[1:04:48] We've got pictures, I think Mr. Bergen provided,
[1:04:50] where the eyed beam that he's got going across there
[1:04:52] is dilapidated and rusted.
[1:04:54] I'm not sure that a hurricane comes by,
[1:04:56] that it doesn't blow down on his neighbor's building
[1:04:58] or blow back on his building.
[1:05:00] Or blow down on somebody else, God forbid. This is the worst building I've been in in the town. And it's been a year since he was cited and we've got a new roof.
[1:05:14] Okay, Mr. Deloach. Thank you. There's a seat next to Officer Moriarty. If he would be more comfortable for you. I feel badly that you've actually had to stand.
[1:05:25] Please do whatever makes you feel comfortable.
[1:05:29] I'm sure that I see plenty of lights, I just like, and you don't have to come up to the podium.
[1:05:35] I just like to ask you one question.
[1:05:37] Is it my understanding if you're a testimony that you've been refused entry
[1:05:41] when you wanted to inspect this building?
[1:05:45] Yeah, it was a...
[1:05:46] Okay, the answer is yes.
[1:05:48] Thank you, sir.
[1:05:49] I can say I'll say it.
[1:05:55] You both spoke in a lot, so Mr. Royal hasn't spoken very much.
[1:06:00] Yes, I just have a question.
[1:06:02] We were talking about structural reports earlier.
[1:06:05] And I noticed that the quote from Tommy only includes four existing beams.
[1:06:14] I mean that
[1:06:16] I mean some reference to that arose.
[1:06:18] Yeah, but you have described the structure report needs to be in large, the scope in order to cover ten more things.
[1:06:25] I mean that this is not even sufficient to start the process or to know the extent of the repairs.
[1:06:33] I mean that in order to find out that the efficiencies every report needs to be prepared.
[1:06:41] That way we can go from there to figure out exactly what's needed.
[1:06:45] And maybe we can here is insufficient.
[1:06:50] Mr. Frude.
[1:06:51] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[1:06:52] And thank you, Mr. Deloge, as well.
[1:06:55] What would it take to bring this property into compliance?
[1:07:01] Well, I think you have to have solid floors.
[1:07:04] For the amount of time, and it's not been a year, it's been several years.
[1:07:09] I used to be a licensed builder in Michigan before I moved Florida.
[1:07:11] And, you know, when wood gets rained on, it doesn't rod and fall through from one floor
[1:07:16] to the next floor to the next floor, and Monts, it takes a long time for that to get rained
[1:07:21] on and then rod, and then just the gravity of the product to fall through, that's occurred
[1:07:26] again from the first floor ceiling to the third floor ceiling to the third floor floor to
[1:07:31] the second floor ceiling to the second, I mean, it all the way down to the first floor, it's
[1:07:34] all those things rodded and fell, that doesn't take a matter of weeks, months at several
[1:07:39] years before that stuff serves falling apart like that.
[1:07:41] What I'm a little concerned about is the nature of the violations that we've quoted here.
[1:07:46] They seem to be sort of omnibus in a way that don't really point to any specifics.
[1:07:52] And I think, you know, in all fairness to Mr. Roddy, is there somewhere we can tell
[1:07:59] what he needs to do to come into compliance or is what you quoted here sufficient in a legal
[1:08:04] context to accomplish that?
[1:08:05] And we could provide a more detailed list.
[1:08:08] Unfortunately, we've tried to work with Mr. Roddy
[1:08:12] and having the building department look
[1:08:14] at the structural things along with the fire department.
[1:08:17] And he kept sending reports to Mr. Bergman
[1:08:20] asking for a delay to come before you.
[1:08:23] And another excuse.
[1:08:24] Again, I got a little frustrated with that one.
[1:08:27] Yeah, you know, the document that we sent,
[1:08:30] the document that Mr. Bergman sent,
[1:08:31] the, I don't know, let's see here, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 specific things out of chapter 88 for the
[1:08:46] town code of ordinances. And then all of the fire code things, you know, it's hard for me to put a fire
[1:08:53] or sprinkler system in a building that doesn't have floors and walls. This is an existing building
[1:08:58] town that is landmarked, but as Mr. Bergen said, you probably have to go and and got everything
[1:09:05] except the exterior walls and I've seen that kind of work done. It's extensive. And then
[1:09:09] they've got to go and and build the walls back up, moving dividers, you know, put an
[1:09:13] plumbing put in the electric. You know, that's just general construction. I'm saying is the deterioration
[1:09:18] and what everybody here when you drive by thinks is an existing building to be occupied for retail
[1:09:23] and for, you know, an apartment. There's nothing there. It's gone.
[1:09:28] So not to put words in your mouth, but their life, safety issues, here, sitting right
[1:09:36] on South County Road as we speak.
[1:09:39] To enter the building would be risky, especially after dark. There's no power. Now, when
[1:09:45] we went through the building, there was power in certain parts of it. It wouldn't turn
[1:09:48] and there was wires hanging on the walls, you know, the plumbing was hanging, there's, you know, open
[1:09:56] sewers, go out from there. Okay, let's do this. Mr. McGallington, very patient. Thank you.
[1:10:00] Yes, so I just, I would just find a follow-up, Mr. Deloitte, to the question that I asked that sort of precipitate all of this answer.
[1:10:09] I know it's not within our purview as a codeboard to do this, but considering that this building is unoccupied and basically has no system within it to notify the town of a fire, which would be my biggest concern that I'm sure it is yours.
[1:10:26] Can you, your office, require Mr. Roddy to have round the clock security monitoring this building?
[1:10:35] Is that something that they can be done by the town or by your office?
[1:10:38] I believe we could do that.
[1:10:40] And is it something that you've considered?
[1:10:43] Well, you know, I was hoping that we would get some direction from Mr. Roddy on where we're going.
[1:10:49] It's disappointing to see that he brought a document today that he's talked to a contractor today.
[1:10:55] which is about 13 months after we sighted him.
[1:10:59] You know, that's the frustrating part,
[1:11:01] as we've been trying to work with the owner
[1:11:04] to get things done.
[1:11:06] And I just see Delay Delay Delay,
[1:11:07] and I'm going to do, I'm going to do,
[1:11:09] and nothing gets to done.
[1:11:12] That seems to be the pattern.
[1:11:14] Thank you very much.
[1:11:16] Okay.
[1:11:18] Okay, Miss Sava has not spoken at all.
[1:11:22] It's unusual.
[1:11:25] I just have a general question, what happens to a landmark building if it becomes condemned?
[1:11:35] That's a good question.
[1:11:37] We brought that subject with the Palm Beach hotel.
[1:11:41] And the attorney that we had at the time said, you know,
[1:11:45] we were going to try and condemn it,
[1:11:46] demolition through neglect, which is kind of what we see in this case here also.
[1:11:52] And he made a determination with all the fire code violations for us to approach him with that and get those corrected.
[1:11:58] Which, you know, this board worked with us to get things corrected and they've had new owners, change owners,
[1:12:06] and we still have some issues we'll probably bring in in front of you on one part of that building in a near future.
[1:12:11] But for the most part that building is pretty good, pretty safe and we've actually had a few fires in there.
[1:12:16] at the sprinkler system they have is put out and kept in the area of origin.
[1:12:21] Hmm, if that's the new hotel.
[1:12:23] The Palm Beach Hotel.
[1:12:24] The Palm Beach Hotel.
[1:12:26] The new hotel is beautiful.
[1:12:27] The other men.
[1:12:27] I know.
[1:12:28] I know.
[1:12:28] I know.
[1:12:29] I know.
[1:12:29] I know.
[1:12:29] I know.
[1:12:29] I know.
[1:12:30] I know.
[1:12:30] I know.
[1:12:32] Okay.
[1:12:33] So.
[1:12:34] Mr. Con, and then Mr. One, right there.
[1:12:36] Thank you, obviously it's not up to this board to sell the owner how to maintain his property.
[1:12:44] However, if we happen to find noncompliance today, can we actually say that by the next meeting he should come with a qualified architect,
[1:12:57] who has drawn up appropriate plans, to go forward that he can actually show the town?
[1:13:02] I don't know if we can go that far, but in other words, we can't say you must do this to comply because there are so many things.
[1:13:10] But at least to know he has a qualified person to get proper instruction as to how the work should be done.
[1:13:17] Might be a step forward.
[1:13:19] It's just okay.
[1:13:20] But Mr. I'm here.
[1:13:22] Quick question.
[1:13:24] These are two separate cases.
[1:13:26] One case looks like 30 days is okay.
[1:13:29] But this case bothers me only primarily because of the fact of danger to first responders.
[1:13:35] Is there anything that could be done to eliminate that danger within 48 hours or 72 hours
[1:13:44] that at least that you would be able to respond appropriately to, because what I envision
[1:13:50] is somebody in there working in this building trying to do something, they leave,
[1:13:59] you know,
[1:13:59] building that's not very well insulated and all of a sudden you've got a whole that whole
[1:14:04] block has a problem and you've got a gas station on the corner. And so I'm you know I'm
[1:14:09] looking at something that could easily spin out of control is there anything that could be done
[1:14:15] in the immediate basis to be able to at least alert the fire department that there's an issue
[1:14:22] would in the building, or is it just a little bit?
[1:14:25] I think probably along with the conversation
[1:14:28] is the only thing that could alleviate that
[1:14:30] would be 24-7 security on the property.
[1:14:35] OK.
[1:14:36] Why don't we, I'm sorry, Chris.
[1:14:38] I didn't mean to do that.
[1:14:38] No, no, that's that answer is my question.
[1:14:40] Miss Arva.
[1:14:41] Is the electrical, like FPL, is it connected?
[1:14:46] I believe it's connected to the meters.
[1:14:47] That Mr. Roddy has the ability to turn off
[1:14:50] and put a small little lock that could be cut
[1:14:53] So you have to have light in order to work there, so you can't just connect all the
[1:14:59] electric.
[1:15:00] One of the things Mr. Bergman directed him was to lock off and secure. So it looks like there's a meter for every apartment. I think there was a two apartments, plus the storefront and there's a whole bank of meters in the back. And he has put small locks on each one of those.
[1:15:15] So that would help.
[1:15:16] That helps with the electric.
[1:15:18] To minimize fire risk. But again, we have lightning. We have a lot of different things. And then we have people with bad ill intent to that could create a problem.
[1:15:28] Okay, I think in fairness we ought to turn to Mr. Roddy's council and or Mr. Roddy or both.
[1:15:40] Just state your name again for the record.
[1:15:42] State your name again for the record.
[1:15:45] And turn your microphone on.
[1:15:48] Jean Lipscher. Thanks.
[1:15:50] You've heard from Mr. Roddy. He's given you a timetable of what he is prepared to do.
[1:15:58] these hired contractors, maybe not in writing yet, but he's lying them up and he's ready
[1:16:04] to go forward with repairing the situation, and I hear, I understand, and I didn't know
[1:16:10] the history of this, but he wants to do the right thing and he wants to get things accomplished.
[1:16:16] Thirty-day from the last hearing, maybe that could happen.
[1:16:23] And what I've heard here, though, and I agree, I mean, how if you're going to give them 30 days
[1:16:29] to come into compliance on this particular matter, it's going to be an impossibility.
[1:16:33] It's punitive.
[1:16:34] And there's just no way it's going to happen.
[1:16:37] So I ask that you don't do that.
[1:16:40] Mr. Roddy had suggested that he'd come back every month and tell you the progress.
[1:16:44] You can monitor the progress with the fire safety issue.
[1:16:49] There's got to be something different than 24-7 security.
[1:16:52] There's gotta be what that is, I don't know, but again, this shouldn't be punitive if he's trying to do the right thing.
[1:17:01] If you didn't want to do it, you wouldn't put the roof on.
[1:17:03] You just left it.
[1:17:04] Why?
[1:17:05] Why spend the money?
[1:17:05] Why spend the money?
[1:17:07] Come here.
[1:17:08] I mean, seriously.
[1:17:09] He wants to do the right thing.
[1:17:10] He doesn't want to address you.
[1:17:14] Okay.
[1:17:15] Sure.
[1:17:15] We also want to do the right thing, which is why I want to turn to Mr. Rotty.
[1:17:19] Thank you.
[1:17:20] All right, well, look, here's the big picture older buildings don't fix themselves.
[1:17:27] They fall apart.
[1:17:29] You know, look at what happened to the Royal Points at a Playhouse.
[1:17:33] And the owner of that property probably did nothing for 40 years.
[1:17:37] And then Whites goes in and they tear it down because there's nothing left to hold it up.
[1:17:42] Look at what happened to Chuck Schumacher's house.
[1:17:44] He goes in with a contractor and literally about 70% of the building fell down.
[1:17:52] My building's solid, it's not going to fall down, it's not going to catch fire, it doesn't
[1:17:57] have open sewers, it has brand new PVC, it's all kept.
[1:18:06] The electric is shut off in the back and locked.
[1:18:09] The building is safe, unless you step on one of the holes, which is on the far left of
[1:18:14] far west side and far east side, when we did the tour, everybody walks throughout that building.
[1:18:23] And before the first of last year, half of that area was perfectly fine.
[1:18:28] It was the leaks in the roof that caused the damage, and that was the beginning.
[1:18:32] It was around March of last year.
[1:18:35] It did not happen before that, and this was not an ongoing thing.
[1:18:40] I don't know where that comes from, but Mr. Robert, no one was there.
[1:18:44] before. I was and I've had people in there regularly to make repairs on that building.
[1:18:51] Okay, are you finished?
[1:18:54] You have any other questions for me, but the building's safe. Okay, I have a question for you.
[1:18:58] I have a question for you. I'm moving forward. I have a question for you. Yes.
[1:19:06] We have a responsibility here and we try to exercise it fairly and to achieve a result.
[1:19:16] Based upon the testimony, I'm uncomfortable, and I suspect many of my colleagues are uncomfortable with the current status.
[1:19:28] And what assurance can you give us, that if we give you more time, that we're not going to have a dire situation?
[1:19:38] I mean, I heard one possibility which was security.
[1:19:43] I'm not sure, I see why the cases were brought together.
[1:19:48] But I'm struggling with how we remedy this situation
[1:19:53] if we wanted to give you more time.
[1:19:56] Well, the buildings locked, it's secure.
[1:19:59] No one's going to get in.
[1:20:00] All the doors function, all the locks function. You can go over there now. You can't get into the building. There are a couple windows that need to be repaired. I have the glass to do that. That's an easy fix. I have qualified people to take care of the items and the floors and the ceilings. If you would like me to come back on a monthly basis and give you a report, I understand your expectations. You want to see something happen. You want it to move forward. So do I.
[1:20:29] I can give you a monthly report, I can come back every month if you like, and I can tell you exactly what's happening.
[1:20:41] My question is, if he got a contract with a contractor and got permits addressing all these issues, does that equate to compliance if they're all underneath the permit that says that they're going to address these?
[1:20:57] So, keeping in mind, this specific case relates only to the fire code, the question I was going to ask is we have this letter from Mr. Deloche, kind of going through the fire code.
[1:21:16] These specific provisions of the fire code that the building is, and I realize you don't have this, you know what I'm talking about.
[1:21:23] Yeah, yeah, I have the document. Those are many, like, you know, it's hard to put fire sprinklers hard to put fire alarm systems in a building that's
[1:21:33] half done or half destroyed or dilapidated whatever way towards what it is.
[1:21:40] There are no floors consistent on first, second, third. There's still debris. There's no walls.
[1:21:47] You know, typically you need a ceiling to put a smoke detector too, you know, as suppose you could put it through the roof, but then there's no real roof on the second floor, because there's a hole from the second floor to the third floor.
[1:21:58] So the smoke detector wouldn't work on one part of the building.
[1:22:02] You know, if you had a fire in the first floor on the west side, the smoke and heat would have to build up all the way up to the third floor before the smoke detector would work.
[1:22:09] You know, that's part of the problem with the building that's that this dilapidated.
[1:22:14] So those things need to happen, but again, we teamed up with Mr. Bergman to try and get the
[1:22:19] place rebuilt.
[1:22:20] That no idea we'd be a year later in the floors and inside of the building is the same as
[1:22:25] it was a year ago.
[1:22:28] So the more interested in Mr. Roddy has to do on the structural aspect has to proceed before
[1:22:37] we can even talk about remedying the fire code violations.
[1:22:43] Yes, sir. I mean, and those will exist no matter what until that work is completed.
[1:22:50] Yes, sir. There's no power. There's no way to hook up on a alarm system.
[1:22:54] There's nothing to report it to a, you know, monitoring company.
[1:22:59] None of those things can be put in until you get the building rebuilt.
[1:23:02] So as the fire marshal, you would be uncomfortable.
[1:23:07] under circumstance that we've just articulated because we still have a building that need structural work and still has fire code violations.
[1:23:18] Yes, sir.
[1:23:21] Do you have a suggestion for this board as to how we can remedy that?
[1:23:25] I think you're on the right path of finding a noncompliance.
[1:23:30] I never loved the fines, but they do get people's motivated.
[1:23:35] I prefer for people to put the money into their building.
[1:23:39] But as we said here today, he's been given a year already to get these things fixed.
[1:23:43] But I'm going to have a problem with my colleague to the left.
[1:23:47] Because if he's going to ask what compliance?
[1:23:50] Well, can I just jump in to kind of address the Vice Chair's question?
[1:23:56] And sorry to jump in, but I think it's a prudent for your question as well.
[1:24:00] I think what we have here is, so the town's code incorporates the fire code, so that's
[1:24:04] all incorporated, even though every provision has been spelled out in the code.
[1:24:08] What Mr. Villuch has done is specified in the more generalities just given how difficult
[1:24:13] it is to nail down each individual fire code in this letter, and I want to make sure that
[1:24:18] Mr. Rottie has a copy of the letter, so you understand what I'm talking about, at a minimum
[1:24:22] would be coming into compliance with the fire code, which I understand would probably be contingent
[1:24:27] on the first case being brought into compliance, but maybe not for every single individual,
[1:24:34] one, maybe there are some that he can come into compliance without other structural,
[1:24:39] right?
[1:24:40] Get my long-term.
[1:24:41] Yeah.
[1:24:41] As they build new houses in town, the insurance company makes them put in a temporary
[1:24:46] fire alarm system.
[1:24:48] And a lot of times as they get a little further along, because of the values of the stuff
[1:24:51] that the people put in their houses, they are required to have 24-7 security, either
[1:24:55] when the construction people are there, or after hours when the construction people
[1:24:59] believe they have to have...
[1:25:00] Security there. It's not something that's unusual on the island. So, yeah, there are things as you get further. But from what I know he has not reported he did anything to the violations.
[1:25:12] It says it looked last year. There's not much you could do for a fire alarm system that would be predictably ready to work or even be able to connect to a monetary station.
[1:25:24] I have someone making a copy so they have that as well, but the provision specified
[1:25:29] if the fire code which is incorporated in our code, I think is where we can start for
[1:25:35] what compliance looks like, but yes, it sounds like there's obviously no way that that would happen within
[1:25:39] 30 days to answer that question.
[1:25:42] Mr. Fried is next and Mr. Moyer, but I just would like to say something.
[1:25:47] I'm struggling because I hear that I'm going to have a building in the center of town which is going to have fire code, life safety,
[1:26:01] health violations for months.
[1:26:06] That's what I'm hearing.
[1:26:08] And that is a problem for me.
[1:26:13] And I need to figure out what we can do to ameliorate that.
[1:26:16] The answer is pretty simple.
[1:26:18] You have 24, you have either you provide 24-7 security until such time as your construction
[1:26:25] is allowed you to do what other places have done with major construction projects, which
[1:26:30] is temporary fire, and then permanent fire.
[1:26:33] I mean, the biggest issue is they have to be able to know, first of all, some things
[1:26:37] going on missed there from the fire department.
[1:26:40] And secondly, they have to be assured that they can get into the building without first responders
[1:26:45] being a danger. That's real simple. Either he's not going to either he's willing to put the
[1:26:50] people in there to make sure that the rest of the town is protected and the building's next
[1:26:55] door. He's not doesn't want to spend it and he runs a fine up for as much as it is and if he goes
[1:27:00] beyond the point of foreclosure he gets foreclosed on. I mean it's pretty simple to me which is to me
[1:27:07] we've made a suggestion. I don't think we can make him have somebody there but we can sit here and
[1:27:12] To me, life safety issues, we can shorten the 30 days.
[1:27:16] That's not an issue we did.
[1:27:18] We did it at the ambassador.
[1:27:19] I think we should shorten it a period of time.
[1:27:23] And then you start your fine consideration.
[1:27:25] And if he says, hey, look, I got a 24-7.
[1:27:27] You know, when the people aren't there working,
[1:27:29] there's somebody there to protect the building.
[1:27:31] And then 30 days later, I put in a temporary fire alarm.
[1:27:35] And 30 days after that, I put in sufficient where the town.
[1:27:40] I mean, you've got to work.
[1:27:40] You got to go to the town, you got to go to the fire chief and say, hey, look, fire marshland
[1:27:44] site.
[1:27:44] This is why I did.
[1:27:45] Is this okay?
[1:27:46] Is this sufficient?
[1:27:47] If it's not, what can I do to make it sufficient?
[1:27:49] That's how it should work.
[1:27:51] So I think it's pretty simple to make a motion that we're going.
[1:27:54] Okay, simplicity.
[1:27:55] I'd love simplicity before we get to that.
[1:27:58] We've got Mr. Frieden, Mr. McGowan.
[1:28:02] I just have a question for you, Mr. Roddy.
[1:28:05] Yes.
[1:28:05] This is your building.
[1:28:07] built by your grandfather. You've been in town a long time. Yes. Does it concern you in the
[1:28:12] least that you have this structure which has no one in it that clearly is in pretty bad shape
[1:28:19] and you're not interested in monitoring this with some sort of a alarm system smoke detection system
[1:28:28] to keep an eye on the property. I mean, many of us obviously have physio cameras and alarm systems
[1:28:33] on our homes in which we live, but certainly I would think that you would want to know what
[1:28:38] is going on in this building, which is sitting in the heart of the town upon beach.
[1:28:43] Have you evaluated that at all?
[1:28:46] It's never been brought up to me as a concern.
[1:28:49] The building has always been locked, and as I said, this is my tenth large-scale restoration
[1:28:55] project.
[1:28:56] I've worked through this entire building.
[1:28:58] If I didn't do what I had done over the years, and I take exception that people, anybody
[1:29:03] He says that I'm not doing what I need to do.
[1:29:05] If I didn't, this building would be torn down well before now, just like the Royal
[1:29:10] Plancy and a playhouse, just like Chewhawkers' house.
[1:29:14] So, this building is solid and it's standing.
[1:29:16] It's just the interior of the back and the damage that was done was recent, okay?
[1:29:23] So, I understand that.
[1:29:26] But, lots of buildings can be broken into, I'm sure.
[1:29:28] any of those buildings along there anywhere in Palm Beach can be broken into.
[1:29:33] Now, I live on the North End and I don't see security on any of the 60s something construction
[1:29:39] sites there.
[1:29:42] So I don't, you know, I hear what you're saying, but I don't think that it should be to that
[1:29:48] level of concern.
[1:29:49] There's never been a problem with my building.
[1:29:51] There's never been a fire because it's a landmark building.
[1:29:55] no sprinkler systems required, no ADA is required because it's under, I think.
[1:30:00] 14,000 square feet. Marty's been in the loops since day one. If he had a concern and he came to me and said,
[1:30:08] hey, what about this? What about that? I would have been open to it, but nobody afforded me that
[1:30:12] courtesy. I'm sorry, are you willing to evaluate what you could do to surveil this building to ensure
[1:30:19] that if there is a fire or someone gets into it, that you know about it and can take care of it or
[1:30:25] not. I mean, there's just something you're willing to do, uh, to open up and to hear ideas,
[1:30:31] but I mean, are you, are you trying to hold me to a standard higher than other buildings
[1:30:36] of similar type? I don't think you are. I think, uh, you were not hearing as spursons,
[1:30:41] you're hearing concern. Okay. And concern is sure. I think unanimously by all of my colleagues,
[1:30:51] and you're hearing concern from the fire marshal.
[1:30:55] You're not hearing criticism or dispersions, you're hearing concern.
[1:30:59] That's a question.
[1:31:00] How do we deal with it?
[1:31:05] Mr. Fritz.
[1:31:06] Yeah, thank you.
[1:31:07] I'm really frankly,
[1:31:11] I appreciate the fact that you came,
[1:31:13] Mr. Roddy, I've known you for a long time.
[1:31:18] I think a couple of things are persuading me.
[1:31:21] One thing in particular, as Mr. Lamoye alluded to, this can has been kicked down the road for a very long time.
[1:31:32] I was on the Code Enforcement Board 10 years ago, and you were here, and I don't think it was a different property.
[1:31:38] The other thing that I'm persuaded by, if I may say, is Mr. Deloge.
[1:31:43] We have an authority on safety and fire prevention and all that sort of thing, and without
[1:31:51] putting words in Mr. the Lotus mouth, I think he's very, very concerned about the state
[1:31:57] of this building and the potential for God forbid a disaster.
[1:32:03] So, long story short, Mr. Klein, if we were prepared to make a motion, I would be happy
[1:32:09] to do so, Mr. Lamoye, by all means, if whatever.
[1:32:13] Why don't we try and see if you can come to a motion?
[1:32:17] You may not like it, but I'm going to give it a try.
[1:32:20] I've been out voting against that.
[1:32:21] I'll move the town's recommendation,
[1:32:23] a finding of noncompliance,
[1:32:25] assessed administrative fee in the amount of $150 paid
[1:32:28] within 30 days of the sorter,
[1:32:30] and coming to compliance by June 23rd 2025,
[1:32:34] or this case will return for fine consideration
[1:32:37] at the June 26th, 2025 code board hearing.
[1:32:43] May I ask a second?
[1:32:44] I would ask Mr. One more day, if he would like to make an addition to that motion by which he would...
[1:32:51] Do we have a second?
[1:32:52] We have a second.
[1:32:53] Mr. Mahel.
[1:32:55] Maybe you would want to incorporate your simplicity?
[1:32:58] Well, no, I just felt like you, even as much as I would like to shorten the time, I felt like
[1:33:05] because the problems are similar and the can't be separated out, I think in all fairness
[1:33:10] you just have to give them the 30 days and we've made a strong recommendation, which I
[1:33:16] don't think we can require, which is when it comes to find consideration, one of the things
[1:33:21] that first things I'm going to listen to is, yes, I did what the fire marshal said, I got
[1:33:25] security there, I got a temporary fire system put in and I got a full fire system put in
[1:33:31] and that nobody was at risk during the period of time
[1:33:34] of whatever I was doing as construction.
[1:33:36] So, you know, I don't think we can demand that.
[1:33:39] I don't think the code allows us to do that,
[1:33:42] but I think that we certainly at any point in time
[1:33:46] with, we've made ourselves clear
[1:33:47] and should be clear on the record
[1:33:49] that whatever the fire marshal is recommended to us
[1:33:52] should be a message allowed and clear to you
[1:33:54] that at some point you're gonna come here
[1:33:56] before a fine consideration,
[1:33:58] and we're gonna pay careful attention, at least I am.
[1:34:00] If I'm here as to what was done to eliminate the concerns of the fire marshal at this time may I make a suggestion?
[1:34:11] Sorry
[1:34:12] Sorry, Mr. I already do many people at once. There's a motion in a second. It's just up for the board discuss the town turning wants the spook
[1:34:20] Yeah, no with the motion in a second. This is just the discussion of the board now
[1:34:25] Okay, Mr. Free do you have anything further? No, sure
[1:34:32] I would only say the motion that I've made is quite clear 30 days and then you appear before us for fun consideration, Mr.
[1:34:45] I think it's imperative on your part if I may say to bring before us within the next 30 days everything you can do to convince us that this thing is actually moving along.
[1:34:56] And I really don't know another way to get you to do it.
[1:35:01] I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I want to say.
[1:35:03] I want to say. Everybody, Mr. Rodney please.
[1:35:07] Mr. Freedom.
[1:35:08] Okay, motion has been made and seconded.
[1:35:12] Okay. All in favor.
[1:35:14] Aye. Any opposed?
[1:35:17] Motion passes.
[1:35:20] Mr. Rodney, we thank you for coming.
[1:35:31] Come with us.
[1:35:33] We look forward to seeing you next month.
[1:35:37] And to hearing that progress has been made.
[1:35:48] If I make substantial progress, then...
[1:35:56] Mr.
[1:36:00] Pelosi, please turn your microphone on.
[1:36:03] We can defer our fine consideration.
[1:36:05] If we feel that you've made progress, if it's been actionable and something's substantial,
[1:36:10] we can make a fine have in that day.
[1:36:14] So it's something that's going to be that we'll have to be determined at the time.
[1:36:18] And that's why we had a hearing for it so that you can come up and please, in your case,
[1:36:21] to say this is why you shouldn't, or should we?
[1:36:24] And for one, it's going to depend on you.
[1:36:27] I understand.
[1:36:29] That makes perfect, perfectly good sense.
[1:36:31] Thank you, sir.
[1:36:36] Okay.
[1:36:39] C-E-24-25-19, Officer Rodriguez to 99, Trade-Win Drive, is there any, well, no, go ahead.
[1:36:49] Sorry.
[1:36:50] Case number 24-2519, property address will be 299 trade wind, property on it will be
[1:36:59] fae Fakoni.
[1:37:01] Case on AX part A, hearing and saying, none, please proceed, sir.
[1:37:06] This case was originally a calling complaint.
[1:37:09] I originally expected this residential on December 6, 2024.
[1:37:14] Foundation final time will be section 18, dash 205, subsection A and section 18, dash 303
[1:37:23] of the town of Palm Beach, good morning for placing artificial turf without
[1:37:27] harcom and building permit.
[1:37:33] A harcom permit was applied for the artificial turf on December 18, last year, 2024, the
[1:37:45] I remember remains in penance that it's us of this morning.
[1:37:52] I somewhat did reach out to me on behalf of the homeowner.
[1:38:00] February 18, I guess that we're looking into doing other things besides the artificial turf
[1:38:07] up front and wanted to add all together in the art compartment.
[1:38:12] Later after that, Bill de Parman, Frederick, mentioned to me that they were going in front
[1:38:21] of the Arcon Commission for March 26th of this year,
[1:38:31] I been not hearing anything back
[1:38:32] from the homeowner since then, so I did reach out back to Frederick on March 28th and it seems
[1:38:40] like there was some, I think the homeowner, they didn't resummit it, so they didn't make
[1:38:47] it to the March meeting.
[1:38:50] I did met Mrs. Faconey this morning, I'm perhaps she can explain what happened there,
[1:38:58] but moving forward, I'd like to enter the notice violation letter into the report
[1:39:03] to the record, the time recommends fine of nine compliance,
[1:39:08] assessment session fee in the amount of 150 to be paid within 30 days
[1:39:13] and to come into compliance by June 23rd, 2025,
[1:39:17] for this case where we turn for a fine consideration
[1:39:19] at the June 26th, 2025 court board hearing.
[1:39:25] Okay, there's a board of any questions to the town.
[1:39:29] Mr. Friedno?
[1:39:33] No green light.
[1:39:36] Okay, is there anyone here to speak?
[1:39:38] Yes.
[1:39:39] The church at the right hand and be sworn in.
[1:39:41] Do you swear or affirm that the testimony about to give us the truth?
[1:39:44] The whole truth and nothing about the truth?
[1:39:46] The station name for the record?
[1:39:47] Faith, I'll come.
[1:39:48] Thank you.
[1:39:51] I'm here with my contractor.
[1:39:54] Oh, I'm here with my, is that?
[1:39:57] There you go.
[1:39:58] Hello.
[1:39:58] I'm here with my contractor.
[1:40:00] This is going to be speaking in half about the plans and everything that's going on with the
[1:40:06] R. Com, some middle. His name is James Keller.
[1:40:18] Please raise your right hand and be sworn. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony about
[1:40:21] to give? Is the truth the whole truth and nothing about the truth?
[1:40:24] How have you got?
[1:40:24] Station name for the record?
[1:40:26] James Keller.
[1:40:28] Okay, will you please speak into the microphone?
[1:40:30] Yes sir.
[1:40:31] Thank you.
[1:40:32] My name is James Kellard.
[1:40:34] I am a general contractor.
[1:40:36] They felt Cohen has hired me to do other work on the property.
[1:40:41] When I was putting the plants together,
[1:40:43] she brought the violation, the code violation
[1:40:47] for the turf issue, to my attention,
[1:40:51] and asked if I can help with it.
[1:40:54] Because the other person who had done this
[1:40:57] did submit to our come, and they came back with comments,
[1:41:02] and they weren't sure how to correct it.
[1:41:04] So with being with the work that I was doing in the front, I could make some changes on
[1:41:09] our work to make the percentages work so that the turf that she has put in will work with
[1:41:16] the property.
[1:41:18] So I've been working diligently to try to get these plans between the civil engineer, the structural
[1:41:25] engineer, and the architect, which I do have signed and sealed plans in front of me today.
[1:41:30] And I plan on submitting to our come for my second time to get this approved and move forward to get a permit.
[1:41:40] In my permit, I have included and took over the responsibility of the turf issue with the code violation.
[1:41:49] And my plans show that we have the 45% that's necessary in order for it to pass.
[1:41:56] So I had to make some changes to my plan on the stuff that I was doing to make this work and
[1:42:03] I now have everything that I need.
[1:42:06] I'm doing the rest of the documents that I need to get together for the outcome and for the permit.
[1:42:12] And I'm expecting that my permit is going to take typically about six to eight weeks and the job to take about four months.
[1:42:20] So I'm asking for an extension to be able to complete the work.
[1:42:24] And I can show you guys today that this, that I have the paperwork that proves that we have the correct percentages that are needed for the code violation that she received.
[1:42:37] Okay, thank you, sir.
[1:42:38] Mr. Pollock, sir.
[1:42:39] My question is actually through the town.
[1:42:41] Do you happen to know if this would be a staff approval?
[1:42:44] Or if they'd have to go in front of the Mr. Bergman.
[1:42:47] I'll stop by.
[1:42:50] Mr. Bergman, it's always good to see you, sir.
[1:42:52] Hello, this is a difficult question to answer because all artificial turf goes to the
[1:42:58] ARCOM, the architecture review commission.
[1:43:01] And there's only limited areas of the art where it can be used.
[1:43:04] I believe what the gentleman is speaking to is the landscape open space percentage, so that's
[1:43:10] a zoning matter.
[1:43:11] So it sounds like the zoning matter has been resolved, but it's not a permanent application
[1:43:15] to ARCOM.
[1:43:16] And our common minor, which takes up to three months, sometimes four, with proper notice
[1:43:22] to neighbors, advertising, advertising in the paper, or getting it on an agenda, then it's
[1:43:27] a very subjective review, as you, I'm sure you're aware of that.
[1:43:30] And then only if approved by our common would have come to the building department for a permit.
[1:43:35] All right.
[1:43:35] My concern was our timing.
[1:43:38] Thank you.
[1:43:40] Nice to meet you.
[1:43:41] Mr. Cohen, please.
[1:43:43] Yes, I was just curious.
[1:43:46] This turf is laid out at the moment.
[1:43:49] If it would just roll off and put aside, without big appliance,
[1:43:54] so it wouldn't that be as simple.
[1:43:56] For removal, would be compliance, yes.
[1:44:02] Mr. Roberts.
[1:44:03] Just in the past, we've allowed people to, their time.
[1:44:06] I'm just, my understanding is compliance is a building permit.
[1:44:11] Because of where you, and I'm a little bit confused about where you are in the process,
[1:44:14] because obviously I think you should try to get some time because you want to get it done.
[1:44:21] Are you scheduled on our com yet, or are you just have the person who has already gone through
[1:44:27] one?
[1:44:28] No, I'm getting ready to submit the documents for the second round, which is all the corrections
[1:44:34] per day comments.
[1:44:37] And basically the code that the building official was talking about was the turf as long
[1:44:42] It's not seen from the street that it would be okay. This is Turf is that's laid around her pool and her backyard
[1:44:49] It is not seen from the street and I went ahead and we adjusted some of the driveway works. She's having me do to make sure that we came up with the 45% and
[1:45:00] I have all the things that I have to go through to make this happen.
[1:45:04] Have you tried? Can I just follow? Have you tried getting turf through our com before?
[1:45:11] I've heard about the turf.
[1:45:12] I just think we need to talk to our com.
[1:45:17] And I was told that as long as the only way that it would work is if it was not seen from the street.
[1:45:23] And this is what the case is here.
[1:45:25] But let me ask you a question, sir.
[1:45:27] Can I just finish?
[1:45:28] You understand compliance is just getting the building permit.
[1:45:31] So to not actually do the installation to get to compliance.
[1:45:36] How much time do you think you need to get through the RECOMP between now and your RECOMP process?
[1:45:43] I'm going to submit next week to the next RECOMM meeting.
[1:45:46] I want to see how that goes.
[1:45:49] And then I believe I have all the information that I need to go through RECOMP.
[1:45:54] three months or months. I'm just trying to get it to handle all of what you've been doing.
[1:45:58] Okay. It's going to be on our next month, pending our comments, approve everything.
[1:46:05] They've got six to eight weeks from that point of next month before they would actually have a permit issued.
[1:46:11] So if that helps you.
[1:46:12] So you've got to keep adding.
[1:46:14] I want to ask the question sir.
[1:46:18] My colleague, unlike my colleague, I'm more like Nikki Haley. I don't do confusion.
[1:46:24] seems to me the issue is fairly clear.
[1:46:29] You've installed artificial turf without our comaproval.
[1:46:35] Am I correct so far?
[1:46:37] No, I have no.
[1:46:39] I have nuts.
[1:46:40] And not you, but the owner has.
[1:46:42] There is artificial turf and there's no our comaproval.
[1:46:45] Yes, there has been turf installed.
[1:46:49] So that's my issue.
[1:46:51] Understood.
[1:46:52] And I am quite familiar with the problem.
[1:46:56] I don't want to pre-empt Mr. Bergman, but unless and approval is not guaranteed with
[1:47:04] our come, but unless and until you get approval, the only other choice for compliance
[1:47:10] is to remove the artificial turf.
[1:47:13] So even if we extended you time, and my guess is it would have to be my guess three months,
[1:47:21] four months easily for you to get the approval without that approval you are not
[1:47:27] in compliance.
[1:47:31] If we do not get that approval I will roll up the top to
[1:47:34] turn from put side back down around the I believe I just want to higher
[1:47:38] up there the problem is is to move the turf at this point would leave don't
[1:47:43] around her pool. So I'm trying to just get the process and that's why I've been
[1:47:48] working on the plans to make this work. Okay but I just wanted to simplify my own
[1:47:51] Thank you.
[1:47:53] Thank you sir.
[1:47:56] Any other questions?
[1:48:01] Anybody would like to make a motion?
[1:48:04] I'll make a motion.
[1:48:07] I feel a little more sympathetic than you, but that's okay.
[1:48:12] I would make a motion in the case of CE242519-299-treedwind that a five-ton of non-compliance
[1:48:20] to be paid within 30 days of this order and to come into compliance by, I'm going to say
[1:48:30] October 13th or to return for our August or October meeting
[1:48:39] for a fine consideration.
[1:48:41] Okay.
[1:48:42] Okay.
[1:48:43] Okay.
[1:48:43] I motioned and made and seconded by Ms. Sama.
[1:48:47] Is there any further discussion?
[1:48:49] Mr. Booker.
[1:48:51] As a reminder, it sometimes happens that if you're not in compliance and you don't show up,
[1:48:58] you just make sure you put that on your book and make sure that the town is agreed
[1:49:03] that you're in compliance before that time.
[1:49:05] Otherwise, we have no other option to issue fines at that point.
[1:49:11] Okay.
[1:49:12] All in favor of the welcome, please say aye.
[1:49:14] Aye.
[1:49:15] Any opposed?
[1:49:16] Motion pass.
[1:49:17] Thank you.
[1:49:18] Thank you very much for coming.
[1:49:24] Okay.
[1:49:25] Office of Pileo is good to see you.
[1:49:30] Even though I didn't see you last night.
[1:49:35] This is case number 25-235.
[1:49:39] Property address is 644 North Lake Way.
[1:49:42] Homeowner is Kenneth and Nicolette Tice.
[1:49:46] Sorry, I had to party communications hearing and seeing none.
[1:49:49] Please proceed.
[1:49:50] Continue with case 25-235.
[1:49:53] The original of the case was a routine inspection, single-family homestead.
[1:49:58] I originally inspected on February 6, 2020.
[1:50:00] 1525. The violation found was Section 88-16 of the town code ordinance for a steer of property, and
[1:50:07] prematurely be maintained clean, safe, and sanitary conditions. I did take pictures and
[1:50:13] would like to put them in the record. The notice of violation was that there was received
[1:50:18] in April 7, 2025. I would like to enter the notice in record. As of today, they are not in compliance.
[1:50:26] That is the exterior of the property.
[1:50:32] There is chip pain on the windows.
[1:50:35] They did come into compliance with for the roofing with the mill do on it.
[1:50:40] I do have a recommendation for the town, although the homeowner did request for time via
[1:50:46] email due to health problems and will be back in town to July 1st of 2025.
[1:50:52] Okay, there's a board of any questions of a town.
[1:51:00] Hearing and seeing Mr. Raghaw.
[1:51:02] Yes, Officer, did you say that the owner is not back in Teltsalai first?
[1:51:07] Yes.
[1:51:08] Or what's your thought on us extending this until they come back?
[1:51:13] You comfortable with that?
[1:51:16] He really should have given more time.
[1:51:18] So August 21st, Cold War Hearing.
[1:51:20] Since they're trying to come into compliance,
[1:51:22] I did clean up the middle on the roof,
[1:51:25] they only need to paint the property, that's it.
[1:51:27] All right, so they are working on your orders.
[1:51:30] All right, thank you.
[1:51:32] OK, thank you for the question.
[1:51:35] Seeing and hearing others,
[1:51:36] are anyone here from the public or the homeowner to speak?
[1:51:40] They're out of town.
[1:51:42] I have to do it for the record, I think.
[1:51:46] Hearing and seeing none.
[1:51:48] Mr. McGowan, I'm making motion.
[1:51:50] I'll make a motion to, on case, where am I here, right?
[1:51:57] 25 dash at 235, finding of non-compliance and assessed administrative fee in the amount of
[1:52:03] $150 to be paid within 30 days of this order, and to come into compliance by August 18th, 18th,
[1:52:11] 225, where the case will return for fine consideration.
[1:52:15] There is second.
[1:52:17] Good.
[1:52:18] Motion's been made in second.
[1:52:19] Mr. Burger?
[1:52:21] He wants to say aye.
[1:52:23] All in favor say aye.
[1:52:26] Any opposed?
[1:52:26] Motion passes.
[1:52:27] Thank you.
[1:52:31] Making sure you didn't want to ask another question.
[1:52:34] Okay.
[1:52:39] I think we're at 25, 5, 22.
[1:52:45] Officer Felix.
[1:52:46] Good afternoon.
[1:52:49] Next case is case number CE, 25-52, probably address is 336, South County Road, and probably
[1:53:00] on address 336, partners, and.
[1:53:03] Okay, there's only expertic communication here and seeing none, please proceed, sir.
[1:53:08] Continue on the case number CE, 25-52, this case was self-initiated, it's a commercial building
[1:53:16] which I originally expected on March 4th, 2025.
[1:53:22] And the violation of the time was violation of chapter 88,
[1:53:26] section 88, that's 18, and 88, that's 16 of the time
[1:53:31] of published code of ordinances, exterior maintenance.
[1:53:38] Notice of violation was delivered on April 7, 2025.
[1:53:44] And pictures were taken at the time of my inspection.
[1:53:48] I would like to enter the pictures and the return of we see, return, mail, we sit into the
[1:53:55] worker and if I can directly attention to the screen, this is some of the pictures I took
[1:54:04] during my inspection as you can see the tone awning and some cracks on the building, I mean
[1:54:14] I'm tall on all around the building
[1:54:19] and some of our stains, some paint peeling off,
[1:54:29] some
[1:54:29] more cracks and paint spilling of the building,
[1:54:38] basically most of the cracks, pictures,
[1:54:43] and
[1:54:43] some mildew around the building as well.
[1:54:47] So the tower accommodation is a fighting of non-compliance, as says 150,000,000 cost to be
[1:54:57] 2020 fell to achieve compliance.
[1:55:00] And if compliance is not met, this case will be turned for a fine-considuous and on June 26th, 2025.
[1:55:09] Okay, my colleagues have any questions of officer Felix.
[1:55:14] This may be a first officer Felix.
[1:55:17] Is this building next to Mr. Roddy's by agent?
[1:55:21] Yes.
[1:55:23] That's good.
[1:55:24] It's funny that I just said that.
[1:55:25] Good.
[1:55:26] The address looked awfully familiar.
[1:55:28] But the property on a did call me and requested more time, and at the time I, and she requested
[1:55:38] more time and she felt like that we were picking on her because she said she was next
[1:55:44] to a road and if I stayed building and nothing is being done about that building.
[1:55:48] And I told her there were some cases open on that building and that building would be coming
[1:55:53] to court but as well.
[1:55:56] Okay I was I was gonna say is anyone here to speak to the issue I think there is so welcome
[1:56:03] Please raise your right hand and be sworn in do you swear or affirm that the testimony about to give is the truth?
[1:56:09] The whole truth and nothing but the truth so have you got state your name for the record
[1:56:13] Please push the button
[1:56:15] Just a there is a
[1:56:19] Colleen or eco I'm sorry. Colleen or we go thank you
[1:56:23] That was my sister who said that you were picking on her, and I was sent here because they're out of town.
[1:56:30] I have two contracts, one for American awning, and one for Hartsel, which we've both secured deposits with,
[1:56:42] that will be starting immediately as soon as they get the permits.
[1:56:50] I don't know.
[1:56:54] I have the permits been applied for at this time, you know.
[1:56:58] I believe so.
[1:57:02] Okay, because that's sort of what the issue before us is, you know, compliance, means you have to have a permit.
[1:57:08] Get a permit.
[1:57:10] So if you have gotten the permit, nice to have the contracts, but we need to know what the status is on that.
[1:57:16] I checked this morning. There's no permit application as of this morning.
[1:57:21] No permit application? No.
[1:57:23] No. Okay. Thank you, Officer Phil.
[1:57:25] Okay. I think the question is self-evident, but what are you asking us to do?
[1:57:31] I assume you want more time.
[1:57:33] Oh, I guess.
[1:57:35] How much time do you want?
[1:57:38] As much time as I don't know.
[1:57:41] I mean, I'll just go back and give this to my sisters when they get back on Monday.
[1:57:48] I'm just the babies of age, and then they'll take care of it immediately.
[1:57:54] We don't want to penalize you for your honesty.
[1:58:01] That's all.
[1:58:02] What is compliance repairing the cracks?
[1:58:08] That's all in here.
[1:58:10] We can't do that.
[1:58:11] We can't do that.
[1:58:12] We can't do that.
[1:58:17] to get all this done.
[1:58:20] Do you tell them that you'll get a raise?
[1:58:22] Because you did such a great job.
[1:58:23] I can't tell.
[1:58:25] I can't.
[1:58:25] We can't do that.
[1:58:27] But you think that's based on what little, you know, about it,
[1:58:30] casually.
[1:58:31] You think that that gives you enough time.
[1:58:33] I think that's the way the system works.
[1:58:35] You're not compliant.
[1:58:37] You find consideration hearing.
[1:58:39] You said sometime in the future.
[1:58:42] And of course, sit your sister next time and say,
[1:58:44] You gotta go back and tell them either we're in compliance or this and why we haven't been in compliance.
[1:58:49] That's the way it's done the way it works.
[1:58:52] So on Monday when she gets back to work and calls these fine fellas, then how long does it take to get a permit?
[1:58:58] Well, you got to, that's usually the people that are involved.
[1:59:02] You know, on any company, I can see right there.
[1:59:04] They know the system so well, they'll get you a permit within a week.
[1:59:07] Okay.
[1:59:07] The contractor to do the patch and repair that he's got to probably do something with a building department to get some approvals.
[1:59:13] that's a little more complicated.
[1:59:15] But we can't give you advice in that regard.
[1:59:17] But for our practical standpoint, I look at it
[1:59:20] and I think 90 to 120 days, you should be able to.
[1:59:26] And then you can go work on the guy next door.
[1:59:29] OK, Ms. Sato.
[1:59:32] You have those sign contracts?
[1:59:38] I mean, you have agreed to each one of them.
[1:59:45] You know, I apologize that they, they, they, they're out of wedding and they just handed me this folder yesterday and said take this over to town.
[1:59:56] So.
[1:59:57] Well, are these going to be?
[2:00:00] I don't know if these are the, those are not. That's my question. I don't know if there are others that have been sent to them.
[2:00:08] Yeah. Okay, Mr. One more, are you still going to suggest 90 days?
[2:00:11] Yeah, I'm going to ask you to increase the 1, 2020.
[2:00:14] Not very well.
[2:00:17] So, I'd like to make a motion with regard to case number C, 25, dash, 5, 2, 2, 3, 6, south, county road,
[2:00:26] three, three, six partners ink, that the finding of dying compliance assessed an administrative fee in the amount of $150 to be paid within 30 days of the day to the sort, to come into compliance by September 15.
[2:00:41] September 15th, 2025, or this case will return for fine consideration at the September 18th, September 18th, 2025, code would be second.
[2:00:52] Okay. Motion's been made and seconded Mr. McGowan any questions? All in favor say aye.
[2:00:57] Aye. Any opposed?
[2:00:58] Thank you.
[2:00:59] Don't get it deteriorated any more please.
[2:01:08] Tell the others you did a very good job.
[2:01:14] Okay. Fine considerations.
[2:01:16] And number A, a letter A, 2842 South Ocean Boulevard.
[2:01:24] Office of Moriari, again, it's good to see you, sir.
[2:01:27] I haven't gone anywhere.
[2:01:28] Why?
[2:01:30] You have capable colleagues.
[2:01:32] This is fine consideration case 25-136.
[2:01:36] The property address is 2842 South Ocean Boulevard.
[2:01:40] Tide line resort.
[2:01:43] Is there any expertise hearing and seeing none?
[2:01:48] We did get the emails on this.
[2:01:51] Yeah, did you all receive your email regarding the tideline?
[2:01:54] Yes.
[2:01:55] So everyone's declaring.
[2:01:56] How are you?
[2:01:59] Okay.
[2:02:00] Okay.
[2:02:00] Please proceed.
[2:02:01] Continuing case 25-136-2842 South Ocean Boulevard.
[2:02:06] The owner is 2842 South Ocean LLC.
[2:02:10] As a reminder to the board,
[2:02:12] this case concerns fire code violations.
[2:02:15] The case was heard at the April 17, 2025 code board hearing.
[2:02:19] The property was found in non-compliance and given until May 12th to achieve compliance.
[2:02:25] As of today, May 15th, 2025, the property is still in violation.
[2:02:31] The town's recommendation is a $250 daily fine, beginning on May 13th, 2025.
[2:02:37] This is the day after compliance was ordered.
[2:02:39] to remain in effect until such a time when compliance is achieved.
[2:02:45] Okay,
[2:02:54] Mr. Klein.
[2:02:55] I have a question.
[2:02:57] Do we have no questions to the town except for me?
[2:03:02] I was a little puzzled to note that the fire marshals report was dated January 8.
[2:03:12] And here we are May 15.
[2:03:17] And it's the first, I'm just a little puzzle as to why I don't, I don't know if the fire
[2:03:35] Marshall wants to say anything.
[2:03:42] Hello, sir.
[2:03:43] Hello, Jimmy doing fire inspector for a Palmish fire rescue.
[2:03:46] So we did the inspection, this started back in August of last year.
[2:03:52] They didn't have an inspection in 2023 due to all the renovations.
[2:03:55] We went by there several times, it was under construction.
[2:03:58] We went in August, did the inspection.
[2:04:01] Following that, we went back for several re-inspection.
[2:04:05] Nothing was accomplished.
[2:04:07] I believe they had several management changes.
[2:04:10] They were aware of what had to be done.
[2:04:12] I went this morning and did a follow-up inspection to see where they were at, after receiving emails of a report, you know, what was completed and what if confirm it.
[2:04:22] They did make pretty good progress. There was a lot done.
[2:04:25] There are some things that are, they can't complete just yet. They have parts on order.
[2:04:30] They have contracts for sprinkler work, being done, fire alarm work, being done.
[2:04:35] So I would say that they have made significant progress.
[2:04:41] Okay, have there any questions for the fire Marshall, Mr. Armourian?
[2:04:47] What's where we, where you were before and where you are now, how much longer do you think it will take to complete the work that was required?
[2:04:56] So, probably the biggest amount of work that they have to do that would take a little time.
[2:05:00] Or it is probably the sprinkler and fire alarm work. I know that, like, as yesterday morning, I was there,
[2:05:07] they were doing, I was doing radio testing there, some of the fire alarm work. I wasn't there for that
[2:05:13] part of the inspection. It wasn't done. I went back this morning that it was done. So, they are actively
[2:05:18] working every day. I would say, you know, within the next 60 days, they should be in compliance.
[2:05:27] Would you recommend to give them an additional 60 days to come into compliance based on your dealings with how they've been approaching?
[2:05:35] I would say that if we're going to give the 60 days that they come back next month
[2:05:39] and we see the progress in a significant more significant progress isn't done.
[2:05:46] So you would be able to inspect the dealings.
[2:05:48] We can inspect a lot.
[2:05:51] We can inspect every day every one or two.
[2:05:54] Elberto, which is one of the representatives, I'm not sure of his last name, he is
[2:05:59] sending emails, pretty routinely now, showing whatever something's done, he sends it.
[2:06:09] So, two lights, Mr. McGowan, then Mr. Fried,
[2:06:15] my question is, this is a hotel and is the
[2:06:20] is the fire alarm system functional?
[2:06:23] Or alarm system is functional?
[2:06:24] It is functional.
[2:06:25] And how about the sprinkler system?
[2:06:27] The sprinkler is functional as well.
[2:06:29] So do you, you know, we have, you know, lots of inspections, they do a yearly inspection
[2:06:35] on the sprinkler system.
[2:06:36] Unless it's perfect, they red tag it, and they have to do repairs.
[2:06:41] This is similar.
[2:06:41] There was, you know, far more repairs than normal building, which they've already corrected
[2:06:47] some of them.
[2:06:48] So, so you don't view any life safety issues then at the moment on this facility?
[2:06:55] No. Okay. Thank you.
[2:06:57] Mr. Fridge.
[2:06:57] Yeah, just John had asked one of my questions.
[2:07:01] Is the building occupied?
[2:07:03] The building is occupied.
[2:07:05] Okay.
[2:07:05] Thanks.
[2:07:06] Okay. I just have one question.
[2:07:08] I may have to withdraw my Nikki Haley comparison
[2:07:11] because I'm still confused.
[2:07:13] I have a town recommendation in front of me for a daily running fine
[2:07:17] and that I sense the consensus of the group here is to give you more time.
[2:07:23] So, which is it?
[2:07:25] Well, I guess in defense of that, you know, up until the last meeting's point, nothing was done.
[2:07:31] You know, in since last meeting, we were here last month, the significant amount of work was completed.
[2:07:37] I trust when I met with Alberto this morning, he's very persistent on getting this work done.
[2:07:44] I do, I do think he'll get it accomplished.
[2:07:49] I'm sorry.
[2:07:49] I'm sorry.
[2:07:51] Mr. Poros.
[2:07:52] Yeah, my question is.
[2:07:54] So what we received as our expertise was about 10 pages worth of incidents that you go through.
[2:08:03] If you say that a large amount of work has been done, just a bulk park as well.
[2:08:07] I would say I don't know the exact numbers.
[2:08:09] We'll say there was 30 violations initially.
[2:08:12] Okay, there's probably seven, eight left left, yeah. Okay, that's great.
[2:08:20] Okay, so representative of the title.
[2:08:22] Yeah, I'm the general manager of the title.
[2:08:24] I'm the name of the title.
[2:08:25] Be sworn in.
[2:08:27] Do you swear or affirm that the testimony about to give is the truth?
[2:08:29] The whole truth and nothing about the truth of the guy?
[2:08:31] Yes, I do.
[2:08:31] Please state your name for the record.
[2:08:33] Yes, Marko Cardillo.
[2:08:35] I'm sorry, Michael.
[2:08:36] Cardillo.
[2:08:38] I'm the general manager of the title.
[2:08:40] I'm quite new, I'm young, I start in March, and definitely, yes, I mean we're working hardly
[2:08:45] I mean to have this done, there are some parts I mean I've been ordered, they're just coming
[2:08:50] I mean and I have even the note I mean here to show you to you, but definitely it's our first
[2:08:55] priority I mean to have this done. How much time would you like? I would like 90 days with monthly
[2:09:01] report, I mean of our follow up, but that's 60 days I mean you won't, we will work hard it,
[2:09:08] to be comfortable in 90 days, I'm going to be doing it.
[2:09:15] My sympathetic colleagues on the left here.
[2:09:19] I would ask the professional.
[2:09:22] Would he be comfortable with that?
[2:09:28] No, I would just say that I would have to see significant progress,
[2:09:32] you know, more progress in the next month.
[2:09:35] You know, I think that the repairs that are left to be done
[2:09:38] could get done pretty fast.
[2:09:40] Okay.
[2:09:40] There's nothing, there's nothing that is outstanding that I don't think they have to get parts like any length of time, it's going to take to get them in, it's just a matter of getting the work done now.
[2:09:53] Okay, I think Mr. Loach wants to say something.
[2:09:59] I'm sorry.
[2:10:00] Mr. Klein, you were right, the initial documentation you saw was dated quite a bit before we started with the code board.
[2:10:08] So this has been going on for quite a while. The fact that the last month they took a serious is nice.
[2:10:14] I wouldn't want to see it go any longer than 30 days.
[2:10:20] All right. Carla, you want to say something?
[2:10:23] I'm just wondering if we're going to do a postponement, or are we?
[2:10:28] I think that depends on my colleague. Mr. Fried.
[2:10:31] I'll make a motion. Please.
[2:10:34] As regards to case number CE25-136, I would make a motion that we defer this matter
[2:10:43] for 30 days until our June meeting June 26.
[2:10:50] Second, okay. Motion has been made in second. Any question? Mr. Brooker?
[2:10:55] Any other? You're about ready to chime in. Okay. All in favor. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
[2:11:02] Thank you, sir.
[2:11:08] Okay. B. 2730, South Ocean Boulevard, Palm Beach, Ambassador.
[2:11:15] Officer Felix. Yes, sir.
[2:11:19] Next case is case number C.E.
[2:11:21] 2-5-4-0, property address is 27-37-30-13-4-4,
[2:11:27] property on this name is in Palm Beach,
[2:11:30] Ambassador Free Barrow as LLC.
[2:11:35] Is there any x-party communication?
[2:11:37] Yes, there is.
[2:11:38] I've had some.
[2:11:40] So I'll start off.
[2:11:43] Welcome, sir.
[2:11:44] It's good to see you again.
[2:11:45] Good to see you.
[2:11:48] I saw the entirety of Mr. Bergman's presentation yesterday.
[2:11:56] I heard his remarks.
[2:11:59] I saw the entirety of your presentation yesterday.
[2:12:04] I also had a purely social lunch with Michael McCarty,
[2:12:11] But at one point he did express his view that this matter be heard by the town council yesterday, which it was.
[2:12:23] I think that pretty much covers all mine.
[2:12:27] I thought Mr. Bergman's presentation was quite good.
[2:12:30] And I'm looking forward to hearing from him again.
[2:12:37] Officer, please proceed.
[2:12:41] Mr. Wife.
[2:12:43] Not beside the email that we received.
[2:12:45] Okay. Everybody received the email.
[2:12:47] So everybody's declaring export tag.
[2:12:50] Thank you.
[2:12:52] Okay.
[2:12:52] Everything else I'll call.
[2:12:56] Continue.
[2:12:58] Okay.
[2:13:00] Opposition Felix.
[2:13:01] Continuity case number CE25-40.
[2:13:05] As I've invited to the board,
[2:13:06] case involve exterior maintenance and unsafe structure. This case was before the board
[2:13:12] doing the April 17th, 2025 board hearing and the board order to postpone five
[2:13:20] consideration until mid-15 2025 called enforcement board hearing at which time the
[2:13:27] property owner or representative will return to address the board and give an
[2:13:31] of it, and of what the rest of the debate is.
[2:13:37] Mr. Bergwin looks like he wants to speak.
[2:13:41] We rely on you extensively, Mr. Bergwin.
[2:13:46] Hello, again, I have some pictures that we're taking.
[2:13:49] I'd like to put up on the screen four pages of pictures
[2:13:54] over the last month that I've been out there five times
[2:13:57] to the property since this became an issue
[2:14:01] this board. It's been 28 days since our last meeting on this. I've received three detailed
[2:14:08] status reports from the owner, which they provided on a regular basis explaining exactly
[2:14:15] what they've done and a little bit of a look ahead. All of the balcony work, the
[2:14:21] shoring work, and all of the pool deck shoring work is complete, and that was complete
[2:14:27] on the 30th of April.
[2:14:29] The pool was also drained, completely.
[2:14:34] The lani building, which is the western part of the ambassador, closest to the road,
[2:14:38] that's a five-story part of the building.
[2:14:42] Initially they were going to jacket the existing structural columns, and they started that
[2:14:47] work, and they got quite a ways into it, and realized it was just probably a better practice
[2:14:53] simply to add the shore and you see in this photo. So even though the columns were ready to be jacketed and they spent a lot
[2:15:00] At the time, excavating the footings and getting ready to start setting the rebar, the shoring certainly took care of everything.
[2:15:07] So, the Leni building column repairs have started, but the full shoring has been installed, completed at this point in time.
[2:15:15] The Leni building portion was also vacated this week, completely.
[2:15:21] And the owner has expressed it, I'm sure they'll mention on the record today, that they will totally vacate the entire building by September 1.
[2:15:29] of this year. I do know the fire protection items as part of this matter are underway. I'll let
[2:15:39] the fire marshal or the fire inspector speak to the sprinkler and the fire door situation,
[2:15:43] but it's all moving forward. The building has been deemed safe by the structural engineer
[2:15:49] of record. The repairs will continue throughout kind of absurd, but the repairs must continue
[2:15:57] until the building is completely vacated.
[2:16:01] Even though the building eventually we believe will be torn down completely.
[2:16:05] Arkham has begun to review town council had to review yesterday.
[2:16:09] I think it went very well. The owner receives some very clear direction from the town council on how to proceed.
[2:16:16] So this owner in a very short amount of time has made significant progress.
[2:16:21] I'm very happy about this.
[2:16:23] And although the building is maybe not 100% into total compliance, they are doing everything
[2:16:29] they can as expeditiously as possible.
[2:16:32] So I think we're in a great place now with letters from the engineers stating that
[2:16:38] the building is safe to occupy.
[2:16:39] So that's where we are.
[2:16:41] Thank you.
[2:16:43] I think I have to concur on that.
[2:16:48] I apologize for having to walk back and forth.
[2:16:50] It's OK.
[2:16:51] I would agree with what Mr. Bergman said, the team over at the Ambassador has taken all the
[2:16:57] violations extremely seriously as of late once they got both the Council and this board.
[2:17:04] They've made significant progress on the fire code violations.
[2:17:07] They still have, I think, the main one is the fire doors throughout the building.
[2:17:15] There's a still-polion demand.
[2:17:17] There's an installation.
[2:17:18] and there's some delays in being able to get that done.
[2:17:20] They've replaced all of the sprinkler heads throughout the building.
[2:17:25] I'm going to defer to Kathy.
[2:17:27] She went there yesterday and walked through the building with their team
[2:17:31] to identify the outstanding fire violations that are still there.
[2:17:38] Thank you.
[2:17:39] Kathy Kleinfire Inspector.
[2:17:41] As we're calling by fire Martian, the building official has said,
[2:17:45] they've done quite a significant amount of work.
[2:17:48] They did change every single sprinkler had in the building
[2:17:51] to bring it up to code.
[2:17:53] They have provided fire stopping with a permit.
[2:17:57] We haven't inspected that yet, but that's ongoing.
[2:18:01] And as my fire marshals said, really, the main concern
[2:18:04] that's still pending for fire is the fire rated doors
[2:18:08] for the stairwells and the fire rated hallways.
[2:18:12] I was told that a letter would be provided for an update
[2:18:16] on that later today, or maybe even tomorrow morning.
[2:18:20] But they have made some significant progress along the way with fire prevention.
[2:18:27] Are there questions of the town, Mr. Bergman?
[2:18:31] Your presentation yesterday was simply quite persuasive.
[2:18:37] Yes.
[2:18:39] As usual.
[2:18:41] And we rely on you and Mr. Deloge.
[2:18:45] We had concerns about the building before.
[2:18:51] I don't have the concerns after listening to you yesterday, so I have a question for you.
[2:18:59] I guess we have a choice.
[2:19:01] We could either dismiss this today, or continue it, Carla.
[2:19:08] Do we have any other, I mean, what would you like to say?
[2:19:10] They are here for fine consideration.
[2:19:15] So, if they're in compliance, then the case is closed.
[2:19:19] Mr. Berman says in the fire marshal says they're in compliance.
[2:19:21] That's not what I'm hearing.
[2:19:24] So, my suggestion at that point would be, is if you do not want to start a daily running fine,
[2:19:29] that you postpone this fine consideration hearing to a later date,
[2:19:34] and then everybody comes back and gives us an update.
[2:19:37] And, or if they do get in compliance before then, then it would not return for fine consideration.
[2:19:43] Is that what you would prefer, Mr. Birdman?
[2:19:45] I think that's a great plan.
[2:19:49] Morty, I just have a question.
[2:19:51] August.
[2:19:52] September.
[2:19:54] Okay.
[2:19:55] Okay.
[2:19:56] By September, the building will be vacant.
[2:19:58] All right.
[2:20:00] This will be moved. Correct. Okay. I'm sorry. We made that. Is there anyone else from the town or was it to speak? Is there anyone who has a question for the town?
[2:20:10] I just asked a question from a standpoint of postponing. The vacant, it's going to be vacant in September. So is your suggestion both from the fire marshal standpoint here in the building department that we postpone by consideration until September or do it sooner than that?
[2:20:27] I'd say September would be fine from my standpoint.
[2:20:30] I never like to see a business on or fine
[2:20:33] if they're working diligently.
[2:20:35] And I believe they are.
[2:20:36] September would be okay with the fire.
[2:20:38] We'll be going in there regularly if we have something
[2:20:42] that changes my opinion on the board.
[2:20:45] OK.
[2:20:45] OK.
[2:20:47] I know there's a representative of the owner.
[2:20:50] Whether you wish to speak or not.
[2:20:53] We certainly don't want to deprive you.
[2:20:55] Okay, sir, please one in.
[2:20:58] Do you swear or affirm that the testimony about to give is the truth?
[2:21:01] The whole truth and nothing but the truth.
[2:21:02] So, help you guide?
[2:21:03] I can.
[2:21:03] Please state your name for the record and turn your microphone on.
[2:21:07] Henry Casso.
[2:21:10] Mr. Casso, please proceed.
[2:21:11] I don't think there's much else from me to say other than,
[2:21:14] I don't think so either.
[2:21:16] I appreciate, you know, the efforts that the town has taken
[2:21:18] and the board's taken to work with us through this process.
[2:21:21] I think we also appreciate the efforts that you have taken
[2:21:24] to secure the building.
[2:21:29] Okay, questions from Mr. Caso.
[2:21:32] No, somebody is, no, I had a question from before,
[2:21:35] but you, okay, you just get tried over it.
[2:21:37] No, I'm sorry.
[2:21:38] No, so my, so my concerns and Mr. Lamar is comment.
[2:21:43] Mr. Caso, I think you're doing a great job.
[2:21:45] I'm glad to hear that everything's been moving along.
[2:21:46] It sounds like they're very pleased.
[2:21:48] If they're very pleased, we generally are very pleased.
[2:21:52] But I would be more comfortable making a postponement of the fine consideration more in a monthly
[2:22:00] to keep them moving. I'm
[2:22:01] afraid if we make it till September and then they plan to do something major in September, then things
[2:22:07] might have fallen through the crack between now in September because I just want to get
[2:22:14] my feelings known as, I just didn't want to bring this up out of nowhere, we'll
[2:22:16] get to a consideration.
[2:22:20] Wait.
[2:22:22] Just a question, is it possible if that's the direction of the board that, as long as things
[2:22:29] are moving forward, we as staff could recommend to Carlit that this matter be deferred?
[2:22:34] I don't want to miss this.
[2:22:35] I'd rather not have to bring everybody here every month if you can, if we can work that out
[2:22:39] so that as long as you're staying happy and it's been conveyed to us before our meeting
[2:22:44] that we find and if you're not happy I'm sure you would tell them and then everybody would be her anyway.
[2:22:50] Well if that's the direction the board wants to go my suggestion would be you continue it till the next month hearing
[2:22:56] and make sure that the property owners and constant correspondence with code would confirm everything with Mr. Urban
[2:23:03] and if that's the case just similar to when they say you know I've spoken with the property owners or out of town
[2:23:09] we've asked for a continuous this board would then grant it based on that representation
[2:23:13] And that way, they don't have to come, but they're on the agenda for the next month.
[2:23:17] So moved.
[2:23:18] Oh, wait.
[2:23:18] So I need to make a perfect motion.
[2:23:21] Well, just the motion is just postponed, fine consideration until the next month.
[2:23:27] Next month.
[2:23:28] The rest of that month, John, but doesn't need to be in the motion.
[2:23:30] But that's how it will play out.
[2:23:32] And with the understanding that we were deferred further if COVID is advised.
[2:23:38] Yeah.
[2:23:39] The motion, basically.
[2:23:40] I mean, if I get it right, as much as we like to see Mr. Bergman, we won't see her.
[2:23:45] Fine, reduction. I mean, this fine consideration hearing will be postponed to the next hearing,
[2:23:51] which would be June 26th, at which time both parties, the property owner will inform building official?
[2:23:59] No, just they'll come. They'll come back. That's the motion, no other verbiage, but before that
[2:24:07] may just so you guys know you can coordinate correspond with the town once the town and Mr.
[2:24:13] Rurgman are satisfied with the progress taken the code enforcement officer who's in charge of this case
[2:24:18] will make that presentation make the representation and ask for the recommendation to be another postponement until the next
[2:24:23] program.
[2:24:24] Mr. Pelosi was making that motion.
[2:24:26] Yeah, I would make a motion in the KCE 2540 that this fine consideration be postponed until the
[2:24:36] June 26th meeting at which time we will hear from the
[2:24:40] Coated Forceman officer on any updates.
[2:24:43] Second, okay, emotions been made in seconded, all in favor.
[2:24:46] Question for Mr. Frick.
[2:24:49] Yeah, they're not going to come back.
[2:24:51] That's the just of it.
[2:24:53] They're not going to come back, but they will be speaking
[2:24:56] with Mr. Bergman and the Farmersifloge and they...
[2:25:00] If they are not happy, they will tell it to the code enforcement officer, who will say that we should not postpone this anymore, in which case we will have some decisions to make, and I'm sure they will show up for that.
[2:25:11] But if everything's been progressing the way it's been progressing, then we can just listen and then vote on another post moment to keep this moving forward.
[2:25:21] Mr. Freed is okay.
[2:25:23] I'll go against it.
[2:25:25] Okay.
[2:25:26] All in favor.
[2:25:28] Any pose.
[2:25:30] Okay.
[2:25:31] Motion passes six to one.
[2:25:33] Mr. Caso, we thank you.
[2:25:36] We hope we will not see you next month.
[2:25:39] But you're welcome any time.
[2:25:40] I want to say like this.
[2:25:44] Okay.
[2:25:45] Moving along.
[2:25:47] Not rapidly.
[2:25:49] Moving along.
[2:25:50] I'm 20 KCE 24 2119280 LPUB.
[2:25:57] Prof. Filaeo, hello again.
[2:26:00] Case number is 24-2119.
[2:26:03] Property address is at Budloway.
[2:26:05] Property owner is Daniel and David Gannick.
[2:26:08] Okay, any expertic communication hearing and seeing none?
[2:26:12] Oh, well, Carla.
[2:26:14] No, congratulations.
[2:26:16] Oh, sorry.
[2:26:17] Okay, hearing and seeing none, please proceed.
[2:26:19] Just a reminder to the Board, this case was presented at our April Code Board hearing.
[2:26:24] There were fine non-compliance with an administrative fee in the amount of $150 to be paid
[2:26:29] within 30 days of this order.
[2:26:31] The property owner was given until May 12, 2025 to come into compliance, or this case will return
[2:26:36] for fine consideration at the May 15, 2025 Code Board hearing.
[2:26:40] As and right now, there are still not in compliance.
[2:26:42] the town of Palm Beach recommends as is of daily running fine in the amount of $250 a day
[2:26:49] commencing on May 13, 2025 and continue until compliance is met.
[2:26:56] A lot of rights for the town.
[2:26:59] Mr. Pelosi.
[2:27:01] Officer Playa, could you just give us kind of a recap of what we're looking at whether this was
[2:27:06] what the actual meat of the case was?
[2:27:12] They are right now, they have a building permit still in review, they are just waiting on that building permit.
[2:27:20] It was an artificial turf.
[2:27:21] Artificial turf.
[2:27:22] Okay.
[2:27:23] Thank you.
[2:27:25] Mr. Fred.
[2:27:28] Thank you.
[2:27:30] Have we been in touch with the gannocks at all?
[2:27:32] Yes.
[2:27:34] And people don't want to come?
[2:27:36] They have a representative.
[2:27:37] Okay.
[2:27:38] Sorry.
[2:27:38] So we'll have some more speak to them.
[2:27:40] Thank you.
[2:27:41] Okay, I don't need further questions to the town.
[2:27:44] Salmon, no.
[2:27:46] Okay.
[2:27:47] Anyone here from?
[2:27:49] Sir, for example, the owner.
[2:27:51] Do you swear or firm that the testimony about to give is the truth?
[2:27:54] The whole truth?
[2:27:54] And nothing but the truth to have you gone?
[2:27:56] I do.
[2:27:56] Please state your name for the record.
[2:27:58] Paul Boyle from Coastal Gardens.
[2:28:01] Yes.
[2:28:01] So we applied for a building permit.
[2:28:03] We still haven't received it yet.
[2:28:06] They asked.
[2:28:07] We just received on Tuesday, the 13th.
[2:28:10] asking for a percolation rate for the artificial turf. We sent that over and we're just waiting
[2:28:17] on that. It has been our come approved according to environmental design group. Mr. Maizel,
[2:28:23] he's been working on us with us as well.
[2:28:28] Okay. Are there any questions? Mr. Warrmeryer?
[2:28:31] How much time do you need? I would hope within the next 30 days we should be able to get this
[2:28:41] I think further questions.
[2:28:47] I'm going to make a motion.
[2:28:48] I will make a motion for you.
[2:28:49] With regard to case number CE242119, I would make a recommendation to postpone any fine consideration for a period of 30 days to come into compliance by obtaining a permit, no later than June 23rd.
[2:29:09] Otherwise, you'll have to be required to return for fine consideration, I believe that's June 26,
[2:29:16] Okay, is there a second?
[2:29:17] Second?
[2:29:18] How can motion have been made?
[2:29:19] Second, it all in favour say aye?
[2:29:21] Aye.
[2:29:21] Opposed?
[2:29:22] Thank you, sir.
[2:29:23] Thank you.
[2:29:25] Officer Polale, you get to wrap up the day.
[2:29:31] Chase number 24-1840, property address is 228-9ingotron, property owners, Ellison
[2:29:38] Ran and Winston D. Ran.
[2:29:40] Okay.
[2:29:41] Is there any expert communication hearing and seeing none, please proceed?
[2:29:45] Just a reminder to the Board.
[2:29:46] This case was presented at our private inquiry code board.
[2:29:49] The property owner was given until May 15, 2025, code board hearing to come into compliance.
[2:29:54] As of this morning, the artificial turf remains in place and the site permit remains to review.
[2:30:00] Not in compliance yet. Carla did receive an email from Mrs. Ren today.
[2:30:06] This is Ren. I spoke with her on the phone and she sent me an email. Mrs. Ren has received our
[2:30:11] con approval. All her paperwork is in for permitting. It is now just waiting for the permitting
[2:30:16] department to issue it. She anticipates is going to take six to eight weeks. So she is asking
[2:30:23] for postponement of this hearing case until the August 21st
[2:30:29] Code Board hearing.
[2:30:30] She feels she will have her permit before then,
[2:30:32] but she wants to give herself enough time
[2:30:35] so that she can get the permit.
[2:30:38] So, Carla, I'm a little, again.
[2:30:43] She's been before our camp.
[2:30:46] She has.
[2:30:47] How do you reconcile what you just said
[2:30:49] with the town's recommendation of assessing a dairy farm?
[2:30:51] Well, how do I reconcile it?
[2:30:53] We assessed that we, well, the town, us, we recommend the daily recommendifying based upon what the original board order was.
[2:31:02] The original board order gave her a compliance date that she had to come into by May 16.
[2:31:08] So, because she did not meet the board's expectations, she is returning for fine consideration.
[2:31:14] So, we recommend that you do that.
[2:31:17] But there are exciting circumstances Mrs. Renn is asking for a postponement. She's has been before our com and she does have our com approval
[2:31:26] They said yes, you can have your turf. So she has fulfilled out all the paperwork for the permit department
[2:31:32] And now she is just literally waiting on
[2:31:35] Building and zoning to issue that permit and then she will be in compliance because our com has said she can have her turf
[2:31:45] One green light, Mr. One more A.
[2:31:48] No, I'll just have to make a motion.
[2:31:50] I don't even do your audience thing out there.
[2:31:53] My life.
[2:31:55] Is there anyone here from the public seeing none?
[2:32:01] I close my books and now I got to open up the now.
[2:32:04] You got to do this.
[2:32:06] 24, 18, 24.
[2:32:07] With regard to case number 24,
[2:32:10] 1-8-4-0, the case of 2-2-8, a night in the L-Trail, Allison Winston ran.
[2:32:16] I would make a motion that the matter with regard to fine consideration be postponed until
[2:32:23] August 21st.
[2:32:24] August 21st.
[2:32:26] That's all you need to do.
[2:32:28] Okay.
[2:32:29] She's got, she's done our conversation.
[2:32:31] She's done our conversation.
[2:32:32] Second.
[2:32:33] Okay.
[2:32:34] Motion's been made in second, the orange favor.
[2:32:36] I
[2:32:37] Any opposed motion passes any board comments someone's gonna move to adjourn move to adjourn