1 00:00:36,510 --> 00:00:38,510 [Captioner present] 2 00:01:37,441 --> 00:01:39,441 >> Here we go. 3 00:01:39,518 --> 00:01:42,453 I will call this meeting to order. 4 00:01:42,453 --> 00:01:44,853 Please call the roll. 5 00:01:46,265 --> 00:01:46,765 >> 6 00:01:46,765 --> 00:01:48,765 [Roll call] 7 00:01:53,118 --> 00:01:57,797 >> Please rise for the invocation by Doctor Steve 8 00:01:57,797 --> 00:01:59,797 Fellows. 9 00:02:01,302 --> 00:02:05,957 >> Heavenly father, we're grateful to be here today. 10 00:02:05,957 --> 00:02:08,290 I'm thankful for those that are willing to serve in each 11 00:02:08,290 --> 00:02:09,581 of the council members and the mayor 12 00:02:09,581 --> 00:02:11,623 and we pray that you bless them and you give them 13 00:02:11,623 --> 00:02:14,850 wisdom pure I pray that you will also 14 00:02:14,850 --> 00:02:18,900 give insight and wisdom to just everybody involved on the city 15 00:02:18,900 --> 00:02:20,682 side as well as those that are here 16 00:02:20,682 --> 00:02:24,885 to express their thoughts about things that are happening. 17 00:02:24,885 --> 00:02:27,177 We look forward to hearing some of the good things that 18 00:02:27,177 --> 00:02:30,333 are happening in our community as we continue to grow. 19 00:02:30,333 --> 00:02:31,740 We're grateful for that. 20 00:02:31,740 --> 00:02:33,490 We know they're blessings from you. 21 00:02:33,490 --> 00:02:35,397 We pray that you give wisdom throughout the proceedings 22 00:02:35,397 --> 00:02:35,897 today. 23 00:02:35,897 --> 00:02:37,537 We ask in Christ's name. 24 00:02:37,537 --> 00:02:39,537 Amen. 25 00:02:40,437 --> 00:02:45,237 >> Please join Council Member Coburn for the pledge. 26 00:02:48,617 --> 00:02:50,909 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 27 00:02:50,909 --> 00:02:50,919 of America and to the Republic for which it stands, 28 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:50,924 one nation under God, indivisible, 29 00:02:50,924 --> 00:02:54,524 with liberty and justice for all. 30 00:03:02,175 --> 00:03:06,785 >> Get these a little closer so people can hear me. 31 00:03:06,785 --> 00:03:09,997 We now move on to community announcements on Monday 32 00:03:09,997 --> 00:03:11,850 September 7th. 33 00:03:11,850 --> 00:03:13,117 It is Labor Day. 34 00:03:13,117 --> 00:03:15,107 The city offices are closed. 35 00:03:15,107 --> 00:03:20,230 Our next council meeting is Thursday September 10th at 5 36 00:03:20,230 --> 00:03:20,523 p.m. 37 00:03:20,523 --> 00:03:22,357 That's our evening meeting. 38 00:03:22,357 --> 00:03:25,343 Following council meeting is Thursday September 24th. 39 00:03:25,343 --> 00:03:28,285 That's a morning meeting at 9 a.m. 40 00:03:28,285 --> 00:03:33,145 On Saturday September 26th, there's a race for bays five K, 41 00:03:33,145 --> 00:03:36,570 ten K and Fun Run at Conservation Park. 42 00:03:36,570 --> 00:03:41,157 And Saturday September 26th, there's a fall festival which 43 00:03:41,157 --> 00:03:43,530 should be a good time at Aaron Bisset Park. 44 00:03:43,530 --> 00:03:47,397 That is it for can you meeting announcements. 45 00:03:47,397 --> 00:03:51,549 We now move on to the approval of the meeting minutes. 46 00:03:51,549 --> 00:03:53,900 Motion to approve. 47 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:56,397 We have a motion to approve and a second. 48 00:03:56,397 --> 00:03:58,397 Please call roll. 49 00:04:01,266 --> 00:04:08,466 [Roll call] We now move on to the approval of the agenda 50 00:04:09,857 --> 00:04:11,223 and additions or deletions. 51 00:04:11,223 --> 00:04:13,223 Mr. Whitman? 52 00:04:14,846 --> 00:04:15,443 >> No. 53 00:04:15,443 --> 00:04:17,159 >> No additions or deletions. 54 00:04:17,159 --> 00:04:19,117 I noticed in the crowd we had a number of folks 55 00:04:19,117 --> 00:04:21,637 from Laguna Beach here that I wanted to hear about that. 56 00:04:21,637 --> 00:04:23,957 And we have that last in the agenda. 57 00:04:23,957 --> 00:04:25,773 Do you mind if we move that up to first? 58 00:04:25,773 --> 00:04:28,773 Motion to approve as amended. 59 00:04:32,237 --> 00:04:34,941 We have a motion to approve and a second. 60 00:04:34,941 --> 00:04:37,341 Please call the roll. 61 00:04:38,813 --> 00:04:43,613 [Roll call] We now move on to presentations. 62 00:04:46,546 --> 00:04:48,937 I guess we can't change it now. 63 00:04:48,937 --> 00:04:52,707 We have an update on the Bay Economic Development Alliance 64 00:04:52,707 --> 00:04:54,997 by President Becca Hardin. 65 00:04:54,997 --> 00:04:58,372 >> Thank you Mr. Mayor and members of Council. 66 00:04:58,372 --> 00:05:00,134 Thank you for having us today. 67 00:05:00,134 --> 00:05:01,777 My name is Becca Hardin. 68 00:05:01,777 --> 00:05:04,503 I'm with the Bay County Economic Development Alliance. 69 00:05:04,503 --> 00:05:08,374 We try to come before you, hopefully a couple of times 70 00:05:08,374 --> 00:05:10,957 a year to give you an update on the projects that we have been 71 00:05:10,957 --> 00:05:12,902 working in the county and how it has 72 00:05:12,902 --> 00:05:15,658 an impact on you and in this community. 73 00:05:15,658 --> 00:05:17,934 That's what I'd like to do today. 74 00:05:17,934 --> 00:05:20,517 Give you an update on some of the projects that we've recently 75 00:05:20,517 --> 00:05:22,885 announced and where they are as far as development 76 00:05:22,885 --> 00:05:23,987 and implementation. 77 00:05:23,987 --> 00:05:28,757 First one that we announced this year in 2026 78 00:05:28,757 --> 00:05:30,689 is Voluntary Electric. 79 00:05:30,689 --> 00:05:34,677 This is a Canadian marine boat manufacturing company 80 00:05:34,677 --> 00:05:37,797 that is located on a site that we 81 00:05:37,797 --> 00:05:39,427 found that has access to deepwater 82 00:05:39,427 --> 00:05:43,237 near Robinson Bayou at the end of Frankfort Avenue. 83 00:05:43,237 --> 00:05:48,917 You see that we put this slide up there for Constable Register. 84 00:05:48,917 --> 00:05:52,517 That's his hotel Indigo, and Harrison's. 85 00:05:53,437 --> 00:05:57,751 We had Paul vote in town and the mayor 86 00:05:57,751 --> 00:06:00,662 was able to take a ride on it, and gave 87 00:06:00,662 --> 00:06:04,788 a lot of the leadership on their boat. 88 00:06:04,788 --> 00:06:06,205 This is a very innovative company. 89 00:06:06,205 --> 00:06:10,277 The boat is and actually electric motor boat 90 00:06:10,277 --> 00:06:11,732 with a carbon fiber hull. 91 00:06:11,732 --> 00:06:14,142 They plan to create 300 jobs in Bay County. 92 00:06:14,142 --> 00:06:16,977 Average wage of $75,000 a year. 93 00:06:16,977 --> 00:06:21,567 We're investing more than $40 million in our community. 94 00:06:21,567 --> 00:06:23,717 The owner and CEO of the company has already 95 00:06:23,717 --> 00:06:26,917 moved here with his family and bought a house in Bay County. 96 00:06:26,917 --> 00:06:30,373 He's got his four children in our school system now 97 00:06:30,373 --> 00:06:35,173 and the president of the company has already 98 00:06:35,597 --> 00:06:37,970 bought a house as well. 99 00:06:37,970 --> 00:06:38,905 You see the boat. 100 00:06:38,905 --> 00:06:42,370 This was a boat that the company manufactures 101 00:06:42,370 --> 00:06:43,437 for the Canadian Coast Guard. 102 00:06:43,437 --> 00:06:46,757 They're working with the US Coast Guard on a similar boat. 103 00:06:46,757 --> 00:06:50,317 They also have a contract for these boats with the Navy Seals 104 00:06:50,317 --> 00:06:54,637 in San Diego California because it's an electric motor. 105 00:06:54,637 --> 00:06:58,850 You can't hear the motor, you can't smell the motor. 106 00:06:58,850 --> 00:07:02,468 You can't detect the boat from an aerial infrared light. 107 00:07:02,468 --> 00:07:05,730 So they are growing in the defense industry. 108 00:07:05,730 --> 00:07:08,583 That's why they have to expand in the United States. 109 00:07:08,583 --> 00:07:12,370 Thankfully, they choose Bay County to expand here. 110 00:07:12,370 --> 00:07:16,970 We're super excited about having Voltari in our community. 111 00:07:16,970 --> 00:07:18,717 This is the biggest project we've ever 112 00:07:18,717 --> 00:07:22,308 announced with the Bay County Economic Development 113 00:07:22,308 --> 00:07:24,517 Alliance and the community leadership 114 00:07:24,517 --> 00:07:26,437 in Bay County and their airport authority. 115 00:07:26,437 --> 00:07:28,625 This is IAG Aaroe group. 116 00:07:28,625 --> 00:07:31,107 There's a company that's headquartered in Miami Florida 117 00:07:31,107 --> 00:07:32,983 with operations in Rome Italy. 118 00:07:32,983 --> 00:07:37,370 They are a jet engine maintenance company. 119 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:44,237 They work on big jet engines for GE and Pratt and Whitney, 120 00:07:44,493 --> 00:07:47,493 Raytheon, Rolls-Royce, Airbus and Boeing. 121 00:07:50,210 --> 00:07:53,717 They work with the big boys in the rendering. 122 00:07:53,717 --> 00:07:56,717 You'll see that they plan to build 120,000 square foot 123 00:07:56,717 --> 00:07:58,442 maintenance facility at our airport, 124 00:07:58,442 --> 00:08:01,177 will eventually have access to our 10,000 foot runway. 125 00:08:01,177 --> 00:08:02,901 The key thing about this project is 126 00:08:02,901 --> 00:08:07,701 that they'll build a jet engine test cell, 127 00:08:09,743 --> 00:08:13,347 and that asset is going to be worth about $75 million. 128 00:08:13,347 --> 00:08:16,501 If you get a company that builds a jet engine test 129 00:08:16,501 --> 00:08:19,557 cell in your community, they're not going anywhere. 130 00:08:19,557 --> 00:08:24,805 They'll build the second test cell and then a two wide body 131 00:08:24,805 --> 00:08:25,341 hangar. 132 00:08:25,341 --> 00:08:28,685 This project will create 500 new jobs in Bay County, 133 00:08:28,685 --> 00:08:33,467 average wage of $65,000 a year, and a $107 million capital 134 00:08:33,467 --> 00:08:33,967 investment. 135 00:08:33,967 --> 00:08:38,767 We worked with Gulf Coast, and their board, 136 00:08:40,420 --> 00:08:45,337 and we were able to solidify $25 million grant to help support 137 00:08:45,337 --> 00:08:48,134 the recruitment of this company and we're using that grant money 138 00:08:48,134 --> 00:08:50,467 to help build the maintenance facility that you see here 139 00:08:50,467 --> 00:08:51,437 in this picture. 140 00:08:51,437 --> 00:08:54,370 The company also bought existing manufacturing facility 141 00:08:54,370 --> 00:08:55,790 in the city of Lynn Haven. 142 00:08:55,790 --> 00:09:00,547 They plan to have 150 of the 500 employees in this facility. 143 00:09:00,547 --> 00:09:03,277 Already got 50 employees working here. 144 00:09:03,277 --> 00:09:05,317 This company is going to be a company 145 00:09:05,317 --> 00:09:08,423 that we want in our community because they are already 146 00:09:08,423 --> 00:09:09,637 very philanthropic. 147 00:09:09,637 --> 00:09:13,563 You see the big jet engine, this is a GE jet engine on the right. 148 00:09:13,563 --> 00:09:16,237 This is a jet engine that they have already donated 149 00:09:16,237 --> 00:09:18,285 to Haney Technical College. 150 00:09:18,285 --> 00:09:24,885 In front of a student that is in the FAA and-- 151 00:09:24,979 --> 00:09:27,157 >> He looks thrilled to be there. 152 00:09:27,157 --> 00:09:28,837 >> He's about to graduate. 153 00:09:28,837 --> 00:09:30,998 He's did a good job. 154 00:09:30,998 --> 00:09:32,837 This is the first engine and there's 155 00:09:32,837 --> 00:09:34,405 the second engine coming. 156 00:09:34,405 --> 00:09:37,397 Not only did they donate the engines to the college, 157 00:09:37,397 --> 00:09:42,663 but they donated an employee for the training the trainer, 158 00:09:42,663 --> 00:09:44,496 so they can train all of our instructors 159 00:09:44,496 --> 00:09:46,663 and then all of the tooling to work on these engines 160 00:09:46,663 --> 00:09:49,405 at the value of this donation is more than $5 million. 161 00:09:49,405 --> 00:09:52,703 They are already contributing back to our community. 162 00:09:52,703 --> 00:09:56,357 This project is a project we worked with the county, 163 00:09:56,357 --> 00:09:59,917 and for those of you who are familiar with where 164 00:09:59,917 --> 00:10:02,957 the old County incinerator used to be in highway 231 165 00:10:02,957 --> 00:10:06,317 in the original industrial park, that's what that building is 166 00:10:06,317 --> 00:10:09,770 going to look like once global impact product is finished 167 00:10:09,770 --> 00:10:10,577 with the retrofit. 168 00:10:10,577 --> 00:10:12,477 Global Impact Products is already 169 00:10:12,477 --> 00:10:17,667 using our port to import glass from our sister city in Merida. 170 00:10:17,667 --> 00:10:21,770 And they will eventually create 150 new jobs 171 00:10:21,770 --> 00:10:24,317 and invest more than $50 million in this project. 172 00:10:24,317 --> 00:10:28,737 Another aviation company that we were successful in approving 173 00:10:28,737 --> 00:10:31,737 is from Connecticut, Oxford Technologies. 174 00:10:31,917 --> 00:10:34,357 They went into an existing building. 175 00:10:34,357 --> 00:10:37,823 They'll create 60 jobs and a capital investment 176 00:10:37,823 --> 00:10:38,766 of $8 million. 177 00:10:38,766 --> 00:10:41,157 You see this equipment is very specialized 178 00:10:41,157 --> 00:10:44,677 because they manufacture the leading edge of the Black Hawk 179 00:10:44,677 --> 00:10:46,677 helicopter for Sikorsky. 180 00:10:47,437 --> 00:10:49,370 Sikorsky has already been in our community. 181 00:10:49,370 --> 00:10:54,770 We're talking to them about some opportunities as well. 182 00:10:55,397 --> 00:10:59,181 And then we recruited Amazon as a last mile distribution center. 183 00:10:59,181 --> 00:11:04,581 They went into an existing facility Off of highway 231, 184 00:11:10,106 --> 00:11:12,810 and they've hired about 100 people 185 00:11:12,810 --> 00:11:14,677 in retrofit this building. 186 00:11:14,677 --> 00:11:17,177 This was a $9 million capital investment project. 187 00:11:17,177 --> 00:11:20,117 With these five companies that we announced over the past two 188 00:11:20,117 --> 00:11:24,317 years, Voltari, IAG, Oxford global, impact products 189 00:11:27,477 --> 00:11:28,657 in Amazon. 190 00:11:28,657 --> 00:11:32,509 Those five projects alone will create more than a thousand jobs 191 00:11:32,509 --> 00:11:34,983 with a capital investment of $175 million 192 00:11:34,983 --> 00:11:37,110 over the next 3 to 5 year period. 193 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:41,770 But we wanted to take that a step further and we 194 00:11:41,770 --> 00:11:43,842 have partnered with our friends at Florida Power and Light 195 00:11:43,842 --> 00:11:45,509 who did a more extensive economic impact 196 00:11:45,509 --> 00:11:48,832 study for our county in the communities in the county. 197 00:11:48,832 --> 00:11:51,160 You can take those five new projects 198 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,549 and you can look over the next 7 to 10 years. 199 00:11:53,549 --> 00:11:57,663 Almost 3000 new jobs will be generated from these project 200 00:11:57,663 --> 00:12:01,263 announcements with $140 million in annual revenue, 201 00:12:01,405 --> 00:12:06,630 and 305 million total value added in the economy 202 00:12:06,630 --> 00:12:07,257 of our community. 203 00:12:07,257 --> 00:12:09,317 We're looking forward to this growth. 204 00:12:09,317 --> 00:12:12,787 We'll see some major activities happening in our airport, which 205 00:12:12,787 --> 00:12:15,370 obviously impacts Panama City Beach and the people who 206 00:12:15,370 --> 00:12:15,745 live here. 207 00:12:15,745 --> 00:12:20,245 As you go up 79, you see construction projects spreading 208 00:12:20,245 --> 00:12:23,397 up every day, and we're excited about the growth 209 00:12:23,397 --> 00:12:29,397 and we'll have a positive impact on Panama City Beach. 210 00:12:30,401 --> 00:12:31,747 We are out there traveling. 211 00:12:31,747 --> 00:12:37,233 We are a small lean, mean machine, but around the world 212 00:12:37,233 --> 00:12:39,733 these are some shows that we're targeting that we've already 213 00:12:39,733 --> 00:12:40,837 been to this year. 214 00:12:40,837 --> 00:12:45,317 Maintenance repair and overhaul, Americas in Orlando, Ben and I 215 00:12:45,317 --> 00:12:47,783 and my colleague, he's here with me 216 00:12:47,783 --> 00:12:49,293 and we're invited by state commerce 217 00:12:49,293 --> 00:12:51,177 to go on a recruitment mission to Canada, 218 00:12:51,177 --> 00:12:52,842 which was very successful. 219 00:12:52,842 --> 00:12:55,455 And we just returned from London, 220 00:12:55,455 --> 00:12:57,117 where we were at the international show 221 00:12:57,117 --> 00:13:00,277 where we met with more than 20 companies in three days. 222 00:13:00,277 --> 00:13:05,370 And got three good substantial leads from that trip. 223 00:13:05,370 --> 00:13:09,488 Saturday, I've been asked by the Secretary of Commerce join him 224 00:13:09,488 --> 00:13:12,557 and his team on a trade mission and recruitment 225 00:13:12,557 --> 00:13:13,656 mission to Taiwan. 226 00:13:13,656 --> 00:13:17,207 So I'll be taking the 30 hour flight to Taiwan, 227 00:13:17,207 --> 00:13:20,207 and representing our communities there. 228 00:13:21,270 --> 00:13:24,970 And we'll be going to a big boat show in Tampa in October 229 00:13:24,970 --> 00:13:30,628 as well as a major overhaul show in Europe and Amsterdam, 230 00:13:30,628 --> 00:13:32,717 then we'll be going on a recruitment mission 231 00:13:32,717 --> 00:13:34,557 to our sister city. 232 00:13:34,557 --> 00:13:36,557 And we're working for you and the county. 233 00:13:36,557 --> 00:13:38,217 We're excited about these announcements 234 00:13:38,217 --> 00:13:40,150 over the past year and a half. 235 00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:41,757 Now we're ready for implementation 236 00:13:41,757 --> 00:13:44,237 and for the recruitment of the suppliers 237 00:13:44,237 --> 00:13:45,581 of these main companies. 238 00:13:45,581 --> 00:13:48,947 Thank you so much for your support. 239 00:13:48,947 --> 00:13:50,877 We appreciate your partnership. 240 00:13:50,877 --> 00:13:53,370 Together we're seeing great things happen in this area. 241 00:13:53,370 --> 00:13:56,757 We want to continue to make great things happen. 242 00:13:56,757 --> 00:14:00,957 I'll be glad to take any questions. 243 00:14:01,486 --> 00:14:05,860 >> So five companies across aviation, Maritime, 244 00:14:08,490 --> 00:14:09,341 manufacturing and distribution. 245 00:14:09,341 --> 00:14:11,257 Do you have a core focus? 246 00:14:11,257 --> 00:14:16,554 That's an impressive array of >> That's a great question. 247 00:14:16,554 --> 00:14:22,397 We do have target markets that align with the state of Florida. 248 00:14:22,397 --> 00:14:24,797 Aviation, marine and manufacturing 249 00:14:26,147 --> 00:14:28,357 are two key priorities for target markets 250 00:14:28,357 --> 00:14:30,945 because we have an international logistics and distribution 251 00:14:30,945 --> 00:14:34,970 but it's one of our key target markets. 252 00:14:34,970 --> 00:14:36,175 And advanced manufacturing, so we're 253 00:14:36,175 --> 00:14:38,777 seeing successes in all these major sectors. 254 00:14:38,777 --> 00:14:41,321 >> And how long do these deals take to come to fruition? 255 00:14:41,321 --> 00:14:44,290 >> We've got one that we've been working at the airport that Cole 256 00:14:44,290 --> 00:14:46,885 has been very involved because he's an airport attorney 257 00:14:46,885 --> 00:14:47,733 as well. 258 00:14:47,733 --> 00:14:50,330 And we announced it in 2023 that we're still 259 00:14:50,330 --> 00:14:53,357 working to try to get it under construction. 260 00:14:53,357 --> 00:14:57,210 Some can last upwards of 4 to 5 years 261 00:14:57,210 --> 00:15:01,221 just to get going and under construction. 262 00:15:01,221 --> 00:15:03,621 Voltari was the exception. 263 00:15:05,470 --> 00:15:08,137 It took us six months because we found the perfect site for them 264 00:15:08,137 --> 00:15:09,982 that already had existing buildings on it. 265 00:15:09,982 --> 00:15:14,907 It can range from 6 to 8 months to 3 to 4 years. 266 00:15:14,907 --> 00:15:17,537 I tell people that economic development is a marathon not 267 00:15:17,537 --> 00:15:18,121 a sprint. 268 00:15:18,121 --> 00:15:19,585 You've gotta have patience. 269 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:22,501 We've got a great team that's working 270 00:15:22,501 --> 00:15:25,501 to make these projects happen. 271 00:15:26,370 --> 00:15:29,597 >> Any further questions from the Council? 272 00:15:29,597 --> 00:15:31,997 >> You guys have a great relationship with Haney 273 00:15:31,997 --> 00:15:35,977 Technical and the colleges that we have here. 274 00:15:35,977 --> 00:15:38,477 What does that look like when we're bringing these people in 275 00:15:38,477 --> 00:15:40,407 and you're substantial relationship 276 00:15:40,407 --> 00:15:43,421 with these local institutions and the pipeline of bringing 277 00:15:43,421 --> 00:15:45,443 families up and being able to work here and stay 278 00:15:45,443 --> 00:15:47,401 in our community and not having to leave if you 279 00:15:47,401 --> 00:15:48,717 don't work in tourism anymore? 280 00:15:48,717 --> 00:15:50,717 >> Great question. 281 00:15:51,501 --> 00:15:54,204 I moved here from Georgia. 282 00:15:54,204 --> 00:15:56,379 I've been in economic development for 25 years. 283 00:15:56,379 --> 00:15:59,537 It used to be that we would sit at the table with the president 284 00:15:59,537 --> 00:16:01,711 of a company, and their first question 285 00:16:01,711 --> 00:16:05,174 was how much money are you going to give me? 286 00:16:05,174 --> 00:16:08,174 It's not the case today. 287 00:16:08,897 --> 00:16:11,328 Their first question is, how are you going 288 00:16:11,328 --> 00:16:13,497 to meet my workforce needs? 289 00:16:13,497 --> 00:16:16,730 And if you haven't been to Haney lately, 290 00:16:16,730 --> 00:16:18,813 I would advise you to go to meet with Angela Reese 291 00:16:18,813 --> 00:16:19,791 and take a tour. 292 00:16:19,791 --> 00:16:21,757 I would take any president of any company 293 00:16:21,757 --> 00:16:25,300 in the world to visit any technical. 294 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:29,500 Their marine programs, aviation programs, welding programs 295 00:16:30,511 --> 00:16:31,593 are second to none. 296 00:16:31,593 --> 00:16:33,199 And when we bring companies here, 297 00:16:33,199 --> 00:16:37,999 that's one of the first stops we make. 298 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:48,831 Any Gulf coast state College, Florida state University, 299 00:16:50,457 --> 00:16:52,121 the Bay district school system. 300 00:16:52,121 --> 00:16:55,429 If you cannot provide an answer to how we make the workforce 301 00:16:55,429 --> 00:16:57,762 needs of the project, we're not going to make it without 302 00:16:57,762 --> 00:16:59,437 a strong educational partnership. 303 00:16:59,437 --> 00:17:01,437 >> Very good presentation. 304 00:17:02,717 --> 00:17:05,717 Thank you for being here. 305 00:17:07,595 --> 00:17:08,806 >> Thank you. 306 00:17:08,806 --> 00:17:12,597 >> We now move to employee years of service awards. 307 00:17:12,597 --> 00:17:14,597 Council member. 308 00:17:31,566 --> 00:17:36,560 >> If I can have Jeremy Cross and Mark Schaefer to please come 309 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,456 up and join me. 310 00:17:44,442 --> 00:17:45,286 Good morning. 311 00:17:45,286 --> 00:17:47,357 How are you this morning? 312 00:17:47,357 --> 00:17:51,940 Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to be here. 313 00:17:51,940 --> 00:17:54,350 I'm sure Mark made you come. 314 00:17:54,350 --> 00:17:59,150 Jeremy has been with us for five years. 315 00:17:59,673 --> 00:18:03,873 He is a dependable and dedicated member 316 00:18:06,336 --> 00:18:09,336 of our wastewater operations team. 317 00:18:10,824 --> 00:18:13,237 I am told that his technical knowledge 318 00:18:13,237 --> 00:18:15,812 and his proactive approach and his commitment to safety 319 00:18:15,812 --> 00:18:17,354 and compliance has really contributed 320 00:18:17,354 --> 00:18:20,821 to the reliability of the operation of our facility. 321 00:18:20,821 --> 00:18:23,807 Jeremy, I'd like to thank you very much for your five 322 00:18:23,807 --> 00:18:28,131 years of service to the community of Panama City Beach. 323 00:18:28,131 --> 00:18:31,131 Mark, would you like to... 324 00:18:34,942 --> 00:18:41,542 [Applause] Next, I'd like to ask Officer Sweden and the chief 325 00:18:57,568 --> 00:19:01,168 to come up and join me. 326 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:04,790 Good morning. 327 00:19:04,790 --> 00:19:06,691 How are you this morning? 328 00:19:06,691 --> 00:19:09,691 Is this your lovely wife? 329 00:19:10,588 --> 00:19:12,588 Fiance. 330 00:19:18,456 --> 00:19:22,560 Officer Sweden, I understand that you're 331 00:19:22,797 --> 00:19:24,613 assigned to the uniform patrol and you 332 00:19:24,613 --> 00:19:28,290 serve as a field training officer, which 333 00:19:28,290 --> 00:19:30,717 helps our new officers as they join our force. 334 00:19:30,717 --> 00:19:34,359 You're also an active member of our 287 G program, 335 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,477 and you have received additional training 336 00:19:37,477 --> 00:19:42,877 to be able to assist with certain immigration enforcement 337 00:19:42,943 --> 00:19:44,943 and federal supervision. 338 00:19:45,250 --> 00:19:49,357 We thank you for all of the extra training 339 00:19:49,357 --> 00:19:52,917 you've gone to for your dedication and your commitment 340 00:19:52,917 --> 00:19:55,157 to our city for ten years. 341 00:19:55,157 --> 00:19:57,557 Thank you very much. 342 00:20:05,486 --> 00:20:09,686 [Applause] Do you want to say anything? 343 00:20:09,917 --> 00:20:13,877 >> Just that officer Sweden is a very valuable member 344 00:20:13,877 --> 00:20:14,543 of our team. 345 00:20:14,543 --> 00:20:16,517 We're proud of all the accomplishments. 346 00:20:16,517 --> 00:20:19,237 Ten years in this job is very difficult. 347 00:20:19,237 --> 00:20:25,237 And we look forward to the next 10 to 20 years, Sweetie. 348 00:20:28,105 --> 00:20:28,724 >> Thank you. 349 00:20:28,724 --> 00:20:31,861 The next would like to call up Lee Gilmore and Cheryl Joiner 350 00:20:31,861 --> 00:20:32,894 from our parks. 351 00:20:32,894 --> 00:20:35,557 I see Sam is coming up with her. 352 00:20:35,557 --> 00:20:37,957 She's taking a photo. 353 00:20:41,196 --> 00:20:42,516 Good morning, Lee. 354 00:20:42,516 --> 00:20:44,370 How are you this morning? 355 00:20:44,370 --> 00:20:46,797 Quite an accomplishment for you today. 356 00:20:46,797 --> 00:20:52,197 We are recognizing Lee for ten years of service. 357 00:20:52,692 --> 00:20:53,824 >> 20. 358 00:20:53,824 --> 00:20:54,757 >> Sorry. 359 00:20:54,757 --> 00:20:58,140 I was thinking about the last one that was ten years. 360 00:20:58,140 --> 00:21:02,117 For 20 years he has been working in Parks and Rec. 361 00:21:02,117 --> 00:21:05,810 He started part time when he was 17 years old 362 00:21:05,810 --> 00:21:11,810 helping out over there with the athletics and with maintenance. 363 00:21:12,533 --> 00:21:16,133 And now he's the athletic supervisor, 364 00:21:16,237 --> 00:21:19,477 managing the youth and the adult sports. 365 00:21:19,477 --> 00:21:21,545 Congratulations and thank you so much 366 00:21:21,545 --> 00:21:25,145 for your ten years of service. 367 00:21:26,975 --> 00:21:28,739 >> 20. 368 00:21:28,739 --> 00:21:30,739 >> 20 years of service. 369 00:21:33,318 --> 00:21:35,318 [Applause] 370 00:21:42,919 --> 00:21:47,719 >> Lee, Everyone knows how old you are now. 371 00:21:47,767 --> 00:21:49,225 >> Lee has one of the hardest jobs, 372 00:21:49,225 --> 00:21:51,367 if you know anything about youth sports. 373 00:21:51,367 --> 00:21:52,933 I hope you understand that. 374 00:21:52,933 --> 00:21:56,503 He has over 2000 participants in youth and adult sports. 375 00:21:56,503 --> 00:21:59,829 If you do some math, he has about 8000 people a year 376 00:21:59,829 --> 00:22:01,537 when you do parents and grandparents that 377 00:22:01,537 --> 00:22:04,482 are not happy with the refs call us that he has to deal with. 378 00:22:04,482 --> 00:22:08,820 We appreciate everything you do, Lee. 379 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,300 [Applause] 380 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:15,300 >> Stay up here with me. 381 00:22:16,319 --> 00:22:18,956 Because this lady is hitting another milestone. 382 00:22:18,956 --> 00:22:23,156 I think she started when she was 15. 383 00:22:25,606 --> 00:22:28,505 To have worked 20 years for Parks and Rec. 384 00:22:28,505 --> 00:22:31,577 And I want to thank you so much for all 385 00:22:31,577 --> 00:22:33,327 that you've done for our Parks Department. 386 00:22:33,327 --> 00:22:35,777 I think you started as the head of the Parks Department 387 00:22:35,777 --> 00:22:37,503 about the time I was elected. 388 00:22:37,503 --> 00:22:40,805 I have been able to work with you for the past four years. 389 00:22:40,805 --> 00:22:42,902 It's been such a joy. 390 00:22:42,902 --> 00:22:45,808 It's been a joy to see all the that 391 00:22:45,808 --> 00:22:49,100 have come to all of our parks, not just Frank Brown. 392 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,965 Thank you so much for your 20 years of dedication 393 00:22:51,965 --> 00:22:54,147 to the City of Panama City Beach. 394 00:22:54,147 --> 00:22:56,147 We appreciate you. 395 00:22:58,624 --> 00:23:00,624 [Applause] 396 00:23:18,371 --> 00:23:22,197 >> We now move on to public comment on the consent agenda 397 00:23:22,197 --> 00:23:23,881 and non agenda business. 398 00:23:23,881 --> 00:23:26,405 If you do have a comment on something on the regular agenda, 399 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:28,297 please wait till that time. 400 00:23:28,297 --> 00:23:31,770 This public comment period is for the consent agenda 401 00:23:31,770 --> 00:23:32,445 and non-agenda business. 402 00:23:32,445 --> 00:23:35,869 Please come up state your name, address myself 403 00:23:35,869 --> 00:23:37,637 or the council as a whole. 404 00:23:37,637 --> 00:23:40,690 Please keep your comments related to the city business. 405 00:23:40,690 --> 00:23:42,469 You have three minutes. 406 00:23:56,737 --> 00:24:00,356 >> Once again, my name is Captain Gary Wayne Beck. 407 00:24:00,356 --> 00:24:02,941 I live at 2601 Beach Street. 408 00:24:02,941 --> 00:24:04,983 I'd like to address the good people of Bay County 409 00:24:04,983 --> 00:24:06,883 that I just addressed a few seconds ago. 410 00:24:06,883 --> 00:24:11,820 My obligation to hold up the Constitution and Bill of rights, 411 00:24:11,820 --> 00:24:14,909 I put my hand on the Bible and Honolulu. 412 00:24:14,909 --> 00:24:17,547 Since then I've witnessed strong armed extortion 413 00:24:17,547 --> 00:24:21,147 against the weakest of our people. 414 00:24:21,877 --> 00:24:23,563 Our elderly. 415 00:24:23,563 --> 00:24:25,146 And I have found myself being targeted 416 00:24:25,146 --> 00:24:28,333 because I've had all of this criminal activity carried out 417 00:24:28,333 --> 00:24:32,748 in conjunction and under the grace of the Bay County 418 00:24:32,748 --> 00:24:33,739 government. 419 00:24:33,739 --> 00:24:36,781 I've had some bad things happen to children. 420 00:24:36,781 --> 00:24:40,777 And I currently am in possession of the record 421 00:24:40,777 --> 00:24:43,820 of the individual that come over to my house 422 00:24:43,820 --> 00:24:46,682 and told me that he was-- 423 00:24:47,573 --> 00:24:49,797 >> Keep this relevant to Panama City Beach. 424 00:24:49,797 --> 00:24:54,147 >> I remember when you and Ethan both said that the molestation 425 00:24:54,147 --> 00:24:57,923 of a child happened in a county that don't matter on Panama City 426 00:24:57,923 --> 00:24:58,423 Beach. 427 00:24:58,423 --> 00:24:59,810 How proud of you. 428 00:24:59,810 --> 00:25:01,213 You know what I'm saying? 429 00:25:01,213 --> 00:25:03,957 But during the meantime, we're talking about the Constitution 430 00:25:03,957 --> 00:25:06,357 and Bill of rights. 431 00:25:06,797 --> 00:25:10,469 I think strong armed extortion on Panama City Beach 432 00:25:10,469 --> 00:25:11,247 is important. 433 00:25:11,247 --> 00:25:15,117 I've had gallons and gallons of tears from the elderly 434 00:25:15,117 --> 00:25:16,617 that you rip in the properties from. 435 00:25:16,617 --> 00:25:18,245 You remember Miss Cindy Wright? 436 00:25:18,245 --> 00:25:20,189 And there's a bunch more since her. 437 00:25:20,189 --> 00:25:21,359 Am I lying? 438 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,359 No. $42,000 for one day's labor. 439 00:25:24,530 --> 00:25:27,537 That's a lot of money for an elderly lady. 440 00:25:27,537 --> 00:25:29,997 It 16000 how she got thrown in. 441 00:25:29,997 --> 00:25:32,385 Everybody knows the story how she got thrown in a room 442 00:25:32,385 --> 00:25:36,830 by three men and didn't -- go ahead and tell me that's right. 443 00:25:36,830 --> 00:25:37,717 And then we have Ethan over there. 444 00:25:37,717 --> 00:25:40,290 I told him what happened to that child. 445 00:25:40,290 --> 00:25:41,349 I cried on his shoulder. 446 00:25:41,349 --> 00:25:42,570 And what did he say? 447 00:25:42,570 --> 00:25:43,597 Same thing you said. 448 00:25:43,597 --> 00:25:45,676 As they kicked me out of this building to tell me 449 00:25:45,676 --> 00:25:47,237 that I can't talk about it. 450 00:25:47,237 --> 00:25:49,370 It happened in the county. 451 00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:50,709 It happened in the city. 452 00:25:50,709 --> 00:25:52,709 That's exactly what-- 453 00:25:55,757 --> 00:25:59,250 >> Please keep these relevant to Panama City Beach. 454 00:25:59,250 --> 00:26:02,237 Not your issues with the Bay County government. 455 00:26:02,237 --> 00:26:06,797 >> So the Constitution and Bill of rights don't matter? 456 00:26:06,797 --> 00:26:09,797 And the fact that our law enforcement officer right there 457 00:26:09,797 --> 00:26:12,789 weren't recognize the capital felony that any American citizen 458 00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:14,717 does will go to jail for. 459 00:26:14,717 --> 00:26:18,917 Such as forgery coma strong arm extortion. 460 00:26:20,406 --> 00:26:24,467 >> Sir, please keep your comments relevant to Panama City 461 00:26:24,467 --> 00:26:25,293 Beach. 462 00:26:25,293 --> 00:26:27,251 >> Everybody can see because I've been 16 years 463 00:26:27,251 --> 00:26:29,959 into my obligation to uphold the Constitution and Bill of rights. 464 00:26:29,959 --> 00:26:33,290 No matter how about how much crap you've put out about me. 465 00:26:33,290 --> 00:26:35,717 No matter how many lies you put out about me. 466 00:26:35,717 --> 00:26:37,321 You can't hide from the truth. 467 00:26:37,321 --> 00:26:38,863 The truth and the fact of what you've 468 00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:42,217 been doing to the old people in this town and the perversion 469 00:26:42,217 --> 00:26:45,700 that you proud yourselves in inside this government. 470 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:46,821 Preying upon the children. 471 00:26:46,821 --> 00:26:53,421 I can link the fellow and let me get politically correct. 472 00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:03,470 >> Thank you, Mr. Beck. 473 00:27:04,105 --> 00:27:06,105 >> You're a disgrace. 474 00:27:07,712 --> 00:27:13,712 >> Public comment on the consent agenda or non agenda business. 475 00:27:14,517 --> 00:27:15,780 Seeing none. 476 00:27:15,780 --> 00:27:19,878 We now move on to the consent agenda. 477 00:27:22,705 --> 00:27:24,705 >> RESOLUTION NO. 478 00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:29,446 26-155, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY FLORIDA, 479 00:27:29,446 --> 00:27:29,453 AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES AT SET UNIT PRICES 480 00:27:29,453 --> 00:27:29,462 IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000.00 FOR FENCING SUPPLIES, 481 00:27:29,462 --> 00:27:32,450 INSTALLATION, REPAIRS UNDER THE CITY’S EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH 482 00:27:32,450 --> 00:27:36,245 MR. FENCE OF INC., FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. 483 00:27:53,965 --> 00:27:54,548 RESOLUTION NO. 484 00:27:54,548 --> 00:27:54,558 26-156, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PANAMA CITY FLORIDA, 485 00:27:54,558 --> 00:27:54,565 APPROVING REIMBURSEMENT TO THE BAY COUNTY BOARD 486 00:27:54,565 --> 00:27:56,565 OF COMMISSIONERS RELATED TO MCELVEY ROAD REPAIRS 487 00:27:56,565 --> 00:27:58,965 IN THE AMOUNT OF $33,451.50. 488 00:28:06,866 --> 00:28:12,866 REVISION OF THE MASTER AUDIT LIST TO REMOVE OBSOLETE ITEMS. 489 00:28:14,963 --> 00:28:19,163 >> Can I get a motion to approve? 490 00:28:19,397 --> 00:28:23,111 We have a motion and a second to approve the consent 491 00:28:23,111 --> 00:28:23,869 agenda items. 492 00:28:23,869 --> 00:28:26,117 Please call the roll. 493 00:28:26,117 --> 00:28:29,827 [Roll call] We now move on to our regular agenda. 494 00:28:29,827 --> 00:28:31,957 We have a modified regular agenda. 495 00:28:31,957 --> 00:28:35,197 If you're following along at home regular agenda item number 496 00:28:35,197 --> 00:28:39,997 seven, private sewer connection program from Laguna Beach 497 00:28:40,477 --> 00:28:42,477 expansion area. 498 00:28:43,917 --> 00:28:48,117 It's Mark going to speak on this? 499 00:28:49,317 --> 00:28:52,597 >> Mayor, I'll take the first crack at it. 500 00:28:52,597 --> 00:28:54,877 >> What we'll do for this item is just give us a brief 501 00:28:54,877 --> 00:28:55,377 overview. 502 00:28:55,377 --> 00:28:57,293 We'll call for public comment. 503 00:28:57,293 --> 00:29:00,549 So you guys can ask some questions or make your comments, 504 00:29:00,549 --> 00:29:04,437 and then we'll have Mr. Davis or Mr. Schaefer 505 00:29:04,437 --> 00:29:07,437 help us walk through it. 506 00:29:12,526 --> 00:29:13,901 >> To give you the backdrop here. 507 00:29:13,901 --> 00:29:16,557 For several years the city has been 508 00:29:16,557 --> 00:29:19,290 working to expand the sewer system into Laguna 509 00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:25,885 Beach in a three phase project that those three phases have 510 00:29:25,885 --> 00:29:29,819 been talked about for as long as I've been around. 511 00:29:29,819 --> 00:29:34,619 In 2023, we were able to get a $3 million 512 00:29:36,482 --> 00:29:38,357 Appropriation from Florida legislature thanks 513 00:29:38,357 --> 00:29:41,357 to Representative Griffith, Senator Trumbull. 514 00:29:41,807 --> 00:29:44,807 And so that's when we began the first phase. 515 00:29:44,807 --> 00:29:49,137 And what we would call phase C, so in May of 2026 516 00:29:49,137 --> 00:29:51,250 you approved the $6 million construction contract 517 00:29:51,250 --> 00:29:53,620 to actually expand that sewer connections 518 00:29:53,620 --> 00:29:57,262 across that first phase of Laguna Beach. 519 00:29:58,107 --> 00:30:01,410 And I think it's several hundred different connections that 520 00:30:01,410 --> 00:30:02,327 will become available. 521 00:30:02,327 --> 00:30:05,749 But the grant doesn't fund and what the city doesn't fund 522 00:30:05,749 --> 00:30:09,349 is the pipelines across the neighborhood. 523 00:30:10,317 --> 00:30:12,777 We spent a decent amount of time in thinking 524 00:30:12,777 --> 00:30:15,900 of ways in which we can try to make it feasible 525 00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:17,851 those private connections to happen. 526 00:30:17,851 --> 00:30:21,241 The memo before you detail some options there. 527 00:30:21,241 --> 00:30:26,410 In talking with utilities department and City Manager, 528 00:30:26,541 --> 00:30:29,770 the option that we think is probably the most feasible 529 00:30:29,770 --> 00:30:31,490 for the private citizen for the city 530 00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:34,496 is to have the contractor go ahead 531 00:30:34,496 --> 00:30:37,317 and install those connections on a voluntary basis 532 00:30:37,317 --> 00:30:38,956 if the citizen wants it. 533 00:30:38,956 --> 00:30:42,293 Not to force any connections, but to allow for the contractor 534 00:30:42,293 --> 00:30:46,163 to take advantage of the pricing that we got from the contractor 535 00:30:46,163 --> 00:30:48,121 to give that benefit to the residents 536 00:30:48,121 --> 00:30:53,157 and have them elect to have those connections made. 537 00:30:53,157 --> 00:30:56,871 And then in your packet, you have some option 538 00:30:56,871 --> 00:30:59,487 as to how we could essentially finance that connection 539 00:30:59,487 --> 00:31:01,293 with the residents in different ways 540 00:31:01,293 --> 00:31:04,763 that we could collect upon that. 541 00:31:04,763 --> 00:31:06,508 And I can answer any questions or defer 542 00:31:06,508 --> 00:31:09,508 to staff or anyone else. 543 00:31:11,277 --> 00:31:15,220 >> In summary, we're doing sewer line down there. 544 00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:16,897 There's a lot of old septic tanks down there. 545 00:31:16,897 --> 00:31:20,909 We're going to fund the grants in the city, 546 00:31:20,909 --> 00:31:22,470 or the utilities department is going 547 00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:25,470 to fund the main connection. 548 00:31:26,742 --> 00:31:29,117 Private citizens may want to go from there septics, which 549 00:31:29,117 --> 00:31:30,343 may be having issues. 550 00:31:30,343 --> 00:31:32,167 Or you just want to go into sewer. 551 00:31:32,167 --> 00:31:33,667 That's going to be privately funded. 552 00:31:33,667 --> 00:31:36,525 But here we're discussing options to finance that. 553 00:31:36,525 --> 00:31:43,125 That would allow the citizens to take advantage of the pricing. 554 00:31:43,562 --> 00:31:45,620 >> When we bid out the construction, 555 00:31:45,620 --> 00:31:47,357 we also got pricing for these private connections. 556 00:31:47,357 --> 00:31:50,117 It's already incorporated into their contract. 557 00:31:50,117 --> 00:31:53,256 >> I will now call for public comment. 558 00:31:53,256 --> 00:31:56,446 If you have any questions, feel free to come up and ask. 559 00:31:56,446 --> 00:32:01,557 It will be all addressed after the end of the public comment. 560 00:32:01,557 --> 00:32:05,757 Just come up and state your name and you'll have three minutes. 561 00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:08,757 >> My name is Tim Ford. 562 00:32:09,177 --> 00:32:13,248 My dad bought a lot on Laguna Beach in 1958. 563 00:32:13,248 --> 00:32:15,648 I was born in 1960. 564 00:32:16,797 --> 00:32:20,165 I've been here off and on since 1960. 565 00:32:20,165 --> 00:32:25,565 I graduated from Bay High School at the time. 566 00:32:26,602 --> 00:32:27,560 I've been here a while. 567 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,997 What we are looking for is just as much information 568 00:32:29,997 --> 00:32:32,397 as we can get. 569 00:32:33,815 --> 00:32:39,215 One, if you've noticed, in the last two years, 570 00:32:41,478 --> 00:32:43,770 Laguna beach has come up from the health department 571 00:32:43,770 --> 00:32:46,183 with problems with fecal matter in the Gulf. 572 00:32:46,183 --> 00:32:47,637 I've been here since 1958. 573 00:32:47,637 --> 00:32:50,370 I've never seen that. 574 00:32:51,557 --> 00:32:53,957 Another background to that. 575 00:32:56,483 --> 00:32:59,837 If you've been to Panama City Beach, you know the carousel. 576 00:32:59,837 --> 00:33:02,945 If you go to the carousel, look at the signs sitting there now. 577 00:33:02,945 --> 00:33:05,217 It says if you park here, you have 578 00:33:05,217 --> 00:33:07,613 to do business at the carousel. 579 00:33:07,613 --> 00:33:09,267 That's never happened. 580 00:33:09,267 --> 00:33:14,791 But I'm getting to is we're getting a lot more people. 581 00:33:14,791 --> 00:33:17,727 But we need to look at this the Airbnb. 582 00:33:17,727 --> 00:33:18,703 Nothing against the. 583 00:33:18,703 --> 00:33:20,807 There's a lot of Airbnbs coming up. 584 00:33:20,807 --> 00:33:21,997 That's economic. 585 00:33:21,997 --> 00:33:26,313 But we're looking for is folks like me. 586 00:33:26,313 --> 00:33:28,274 We've been here for a long time. 587 00:33:28,274 --> 00:33:34,790 We are looking at the cost of going to the septic system. 588 00:33:34,790 --> 00:33:37,585 Going off the septic system, want 589 00:33:37,585 --> 00:33:39,421 to help save our beach to where we 590 00:33:39,421 --> 00:33:41,546 don't have the documentation coming from the health 591 00:33:41,546 --> 00:33:43,648 department to where we can go swim in the Gulf. 592 00:33:43,648 --> 00:33:46,281 That is a big issue. 593 00:33:46,281 --> 00:33:49,157 This project is going to help that issue. 594 00:33:49,157 --> 00:33:53,532 Looking at what's coming down for a lot of us that 595 00:33:53,532 --> 00:33:58,221 have been here it's the cost of connecting to the system. 596 00:33:58,221 --> 00:34:03,317 We are for the system because it's going to help everybody. 597 00:34:03,317 --> 00:34:06,917 Our question is, the initial cost. 598 00:34:08,597 --> 00:34:10,925 There's a lot of places that have been 599 00:34:10,925 --> 00:34:12,740 in families for a long time. 600 00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:16,370 One of my suggestions is, if we could 601 00:34:16,370 --> 00:34:18,717 get with the city to come to Laguna Beach Association 602 00:34:18,717 --> 00:34:19,707 meeting. 603 00:34:19,707 --> 00:34:22,107 It's not an HOA. 604 00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:25,870 It's an association that goes back. 605 00:34:25,870 --> 00:34:27,787 If you don't know the history of Laguna Beach, 606 00:34:27,787 --> 00:34:30,717 it goes back to when the properties of Laguna Beach 607 00:34:30,717 --> 00:34:31,909 were originally sold. 608 00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:37,394 The gentleman that sold the properties back in the early 50s 609 00:34:37,394 --> 00:34:43,994 put on deeds that our beach would not be built on. 610 00:34:43,997 --> 00:34:47,597 Large process went to the state. 611 00:34:50,117 --> 00:34:54,143 And the association is just there to make sure 612 00:34:54,143 --> 00:34:55,534 that the agreement is upheld. 613 00:34:55,534 --> 00:34:57,617 A lot of people in that association that have been 614 00:34:57,617 --> 00:35:00,910 on the beach for a long time. 615 00:35:00,910 --> 00:35:03,957 If we could get a connection to where the city could come, 616 00:35:03,957 --> 00:35:08,757 because from what I see, if we initially 617 00:35:09,357 --> 00:35:12,463 connect as a contractors there, it 618 00:35:12,463 --> 00:35:17,397 will be less expensive for us to do that. 619 00:35:17,397 --> 00:35:19,917 >> Tim, if you could start wrapping this up. 620 00:35:19,917 --> 00:35:25,000 >> That benefits us, but it also benefits you for us to get 621 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,250 connected as soon as possible. 622 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:29,514 I think that would be the correct statement. 623 00:35:29,514 --> 00:35:32,442 As soon as we could get what the cost to initially do it 624 00:35:32,442 --> 00:35:35,737 so we can help get the information out and possibly 625 00:35:35,737 --> 00:35:41,137 work with you to come to the Association with-- 626 00:35:42,616 --> 00:35:44,330 you can't put everything in stone, 627 00:35:44,330 --> 00:35:46,717 but it's close as we could get to it. 628 00:35:46,717 --> 00:35:49,143 So we could get more of the older people 629 00:35:49,143 --> 00:35:55,458 that have been here for a long time that see what 630 00:35:55,458 --> 00:35:58,454 this is going to do for us. 631 00:35:58,454 --> 00:36:00,370 Not only to help us at our pocketbook. 632 00:36:00,370 --> 00:36:02,437 >> We appreciate you, Tim. 633 00:36:03,891 --> 00:36:05,183 You're substantially over time. 634 00:36:05,183 --> 00:36:10,583 We're more than happy to have the conversation >> Just 635 00:36:11,286 --> 00:36:12,911 to let you know the alarm is messed up. 636 00:36:12,911 --> 00:36:13,380 They're gonna have to fix it after the meeting. 637 00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:14,837 I'll try to keep in track. 638 00:36:14,837 --> 00:36:18,233 >> Everyone gets the same amount of time. 639 00:36:18,233 --> 00:36:19,250 That's just a rule. 640 00:36:19,250 --> 00:36:20,622 Don't want to be mean or anything. 641 00:36:20,622 --> 00:36:22,307 Everyone gets the same amount. 642 00:36:22,307 --> 00:36:26,507 Any further public comment on this item? 643 00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:27,909 >> Yes, sir. 644 00:36:27,909 --> 00:36:29,951 Thank you very much for letting me ask questions. 645 00:36:29,951 --> 00:36:34,151 One of the first questions I have. 646 00:36:35,555 --> 00:36:36,388 >> What's your name? 647 00:36:36,388 --> 00:36:38,720 >> Linda Gastner. 648 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,405 I live in Laguna Beach. 649 00:36:40,405 --> 00:36:42,809 I've got five questions here. 650 00:36:42,809 --> 00:36:50,900 If a homeowner or property owner does not pay the impact fee-- 651 00:36:52,325 --> 00:36:57,725 if they choose to pay an impact fee now, 652 00:36:57,837 --> 00:37:01,350 can they pay the terms that you guys 653 00:37:01,350 --> 00:37:05,835 have given us for the 5, 10, or 15 years financing? 654 00:37:09,173 --> 00:37:12,123 The next one is, the impact fee, is it 655 00:37:12,123 --> 00:37:14,383 different than what we were given a couple of months 656 00:37:14,383 --> 00:37:15,303 ago from Mark? 657 00:37:15,303 --> 00:37:19,503 I didn't see it in the paperwork. 658 00:37:20,917 --> 00:37:24,167 Also, vacant lots that are not developed, will they 659 00:37:24,167 --> 00:37:28,877 be charged the $31.06 per month if they're not developed? 660 00:37:28,877 --> 00:37:30,370 They are vacant. 661 00:37:30,370 --> 00:37:36,637 So of course they're not going to hook up impact fees. 662 00:37:36,648 --> 00:37:42,986 What is the difference between a three and a four inch pipe? 663 00:37:42,986 --> 00:37:43,861 What's the use of it. 664 00:37:43,861 --> 00:37:44,861 I don't understand that. 665 00:37:44,861 --> 00:37:50,861 I don't know if it's the number of bathrooms, whatever. 666 00:37:51,498 --> 00:37:57,664 And the last thing is the date update for the contract. 667 00:37:57,664 --> 00:37:58,997 It was supposed to start in May. 668 00:37:58,997 --> 00:38:00,357 Now it's several months behind. 669 00:38:00,357 --> 00:38:02,541 I'm wondering if that's been revised. 670 00:38:02,541 --> 00:38:06,741 What can we expect to start construction? 671 00:38:08,341 --> 00:38:10,741 That's all I've got. 672 00:38:11,788 --> 00:38:13,165 Thank you. 673 00:38:13,165 --> 00:38:13,934 >> Thank you. 674 00:38:13,934 --> 00:38:17,534 Further public comment on this item? 675 00:38:21,179 --> 00:38:23,117 All right. 676 00:38:23,117 --> 00:38:25,207 I think several of those questions 677 00:38:25,207 --> 00:38:28,717 are mixed between Mr. Davis and Mr. Schaefer. 678 00:38:28,717 --> 00:38:31,413 Mr. Schaefer, can you come up and help 679 00:38:31,413 --> 00:38:36,700 us understand this program and address some of the questions 680 00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:42,700 on financing, vacant lot charge, three versus four inch pipe. 681 00:38:43,757 --> 00:38:44,461 Contract starts. 682 00:38:44,461 --> 00:38:46,937 And just a minor correction. 683 00:38:46,937 --> 00:38:49,109 These aren't impact fees. 684 00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:53,397 This would just be a fee for construction. 685 00:38:53,397 --> 00:38:57,363 >> First off, the limits of the project says Mr. 686 00:38:57,363 --> 00:38:59,789 Davis indicated, is the first of three phases. 687 00:38:59,789 --> 00:39:04,897 The limits are from the Luna all the way to East Lake Shore. 688 00:39:04,897 --> 00:39:08,645 North to Back Beach Road, south to Front Beach Road. 689 00:39:08,645 --> 00:39:10,412 If it's outside that area, that's not 690 00:39:10,412 --> 00:39:13,447 in the phase of the project. 691 00:39:13,447 --> 00:39:17,637 I've done three presentations to the Laguna Beach Homeowners 692 00:39:17,637 --> 00:39:18,205 Association. 693 00:39:18,205 --> 00:39:24,205 But I'll be glad to cover any questions anybody has. 694 00:39:26,156 --> 00:39:28,821 Regarding the schedule for the project, 695 00:39:28,821 --> 00:39:31,597 the notice to proceed was issued the 10th of June. 696 00:39:31,597 --> 00:39:34,117 The contractors have been a little slow getting mobilized, 697 00:39:34,117 --> 00:39:35,957 but he has started. 698 00:39:35,957 --> 00:39:38,847 Barring any rain events or delays in construction, 699 00:39:38,847 --> 00:39:44,247 it should be done in March of next year. 700 00:39:45,309 --> 00:39:47,309 >> Be completed? 701 00:39:51,112 --> 00:39:51,784 >> Yes. 702 00:39:51,784 --> 00:39:55,250 There's about 441 lots in that service area, 703 00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:58,830 and we used that quantity in the bid form. 704 00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:03,637 What we're trying to do is leverage the number of homes 705 00:40:03,637 --> 00:40:07,700 in that area to get better pricing in our contract 706 00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:10,877 and allow that to be available to the homeowners 707 00:40:10,877 --> 00:40:12,237 if they wish to use that. 708 00:40:12,237 --> 00:40:13,964 They're not required to use it. 709 00:40:13,964 --> 00:40:17,571 And I think we got some really good quotes here in terms 710 00:40:17,571 --> 00:40:22,373 of septic tank abandonment and it's less than $2,500 which is 711 00:40:22,373 --> 00:40:25,687 much better than they likely could do on their own. 712 00:40:25,687 --> 00:40:27,307 Secondary benefits to the homeowners 713 00:40:27,307 --> 00:40:29,217 if they go in this program. 714 00:40:29,217 --> 00:40:31,977 Septic tanks can fail on you without a moment's notice. 715 00:40:31,977 --> 00:40:33,977 And suddenly you have a big time constraint 716 00:40:33,977 --> 00:40:36,377 to get something done. 717 00:40:37,737 --> 00:40:41,397 This allows them the opportunity to deal with it now 718 00:40:41,397 --> 00:40:43,797 at an advantageous price. 719 00:40:44,293 --> 00:40:48,249 In the city is your in between the contractor and the homeowner 720 00:40:48,249 --> 00:40:50,987 in terms of issues and construction. 721 00:40:50,987 --> 00:40:55,187 We are basically serving as a representative. 722 00:40:55,797 --> 00:40:59,539 >> Mark, between the start time now and March of next year, 723 00:40:59,539 --> 00:41:01,163 if I was a homeowner in their. 724 00:41:01,163 --> 00:41:04,757 I'd like to know if there's a certain time they have to agree, 725 00:41:04,757 --> 00:41:08,637 does it just have to be before the completion date? 726 00:41:08,637 --> 00:41:10,684 >> The contractor owes me that date. 727 00:41:10,684 --> 00:41:11,982 I don't know what it is yet. 728 00:41:11,982 --> 00:41:13,857 Typically they'll put the mains in the street 729 00:41:13,857 --> 00:41:15,232 and I don't know if they're going 730 00:41:15,232 --> 00:41:17,666 to do it in bulk faction of the entire area 731 00:41:17,666 --> 00:41:23,169 or if they're going to do it street by street. 732 00:41:23,169 --> 00:41:25,461 >> Can you speak to the difference between a three inch 733 00:41:25,461 --> 00:41:29,637 and a four inch pipe for the homeowners? 734 00:41:29,637 --> 00:41:33,863 >> Some homes have four inch main service exits coming out 735 00:41:33,863 --> 00:41:35,600 of the rear of the house. 736 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,543 Some of them have four. 737 00:41:37,543 --> 00:41:39,120 Typically it's a four inch line. 738 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,370 We just got the unit pricing for both options. 739 00:41:41,370 --> 00:41:43,506 If the homeowner wanted to stay with the three inch or he 740 00:41:43,506 --> 00:41:46,917 could upsize to the four inch. 741 00:41:46,917 --> 00:41:51,347 >> And then the question about sewer availability charge 742 00:41:51,347 --> 00:41:53,117 for vacant lots. 743 00:41:53,117 --> 00:41:55,517 >> The sewer availability charts, 744 00:41:56,739 --> 00:41:59,197 the guiding principle there is to encourage people that are 745 00:41:59,197 --> 00:42:01,227 on septic tanks to get off the septic tanks. 746 00:42:01,227 --> 00:42:04,301 I don't know how it's going to apply to an empty lot. 747 00:42:04,301 --> 00:42:07,288 I would think it targets people that are on holdouts 748 00:42:07,288 --> 00:42:09,117 I want to stay on septic tanks. 749 00:42:09,117 --> 00:42:13,768 It's basically saying we've expended all this money, 750 00:42:13,768 --> 00:42:16,143 and the state of expended money to extend utility service 751 00:42:16,143 --> 00:42:16,917 in your area. 752 00:42:16,917 --> 00:42:19,770 And that has a cost. 753 00:42:19,770 --> 00:42:22,797 It's certainly not going to recapture that cost, 754 00:42:22,797 --> 00:42:25,377 but it's something to incentivize them to get off 755 00:42:25,377 --> 00:42:27,257 their septic tanks and connect. 756 00:42:27,257 --> 00:42:30,777 A state requirement is that it's once it's available, 757 00:42:30,777 --> 00:42:34,977 they have to connect within a year. 758 00:42:35,157 --> 00:42:37,157 >> Say that again. 759 00:42:39,577 --> 00:42:42,770 >> There's a state requirement that once sewer is available, 760 00:42:42,770 --> 00:42:43,702 and they've been given notice about it, 761 00:42:43,702 --> 00:42:48,502 they have up to a year to connect. 762 00:42:50,278 --> 00:42:52,278 >> Mayor, one question. 763 00:42:52,494 --> 00:42:54,925 Miss Christina did ask about impact fees and impact 764 00:42:54,925 --> 00:42:57,563 fees that would be associated with these connections. 765 00:42:57,563 --> 00:43:00,769 This financing option includes financing those impact fees 766 00:43:00,769 --> 00:43:01,517 as well. 767 00:43:01,517 --> 00:43:02,627 Just to clarify. 768 00:43:02,627 --> 00:43:05,627 It's a whole cart thing. 769 00:43:08,105 --> 00:43:10,925 >> The impact fee I gave in the presentations to Laguna Beach 770 00:43:10,925 --> 00:43:13,343 was an example impact fee. 771 00:43:13,343 --> 00:43:17,437 It's based on a standard three bedroom two bath home. 772 00:43:17,437 --> 00:43:21,789 And our impact fees are a function of fixture units. 773 00:43:21,789 --> 00:43:28,420 If you have a three bath home , that number is going to be 774 00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:28,920 higher. 775 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,997 I use a standard three bedroom two bath home. 776 00:43:30,997 --> 00:43:33,397 And it was roughly $4,700. 777 00:43:34,861 --> 00:43:38,161 For the sewer impact fee only. 778 00:43:38,161 --> 00:43:39,869 That does not include the connection cost 779 00:43:39,869 --> 00:43:44,803 which is the cost of running the pipe from the home to the sewer. 780 00:43:44,803 --> 00:43:50,203 There front property line at that point of connection. 781 00:43:53,901 --> 00:43:53,912 >> We're looking at an average cost per home around $7,000 782 00:43:53,912 --> 00:43:55,454 for the total hookup and impact fees. 783 00:43:55,454 --> 00:43:57,854 For hookup and connection. 784 00:44:02,673 --> 00:44:04,381 >> If it's a nine bedroom seven bathroom, 785 00:44:04,381 --> 00:44:08,157 it's gonna be significantly more because of the fixture count. 786 00:44:08,157 --> 00:44:12,475 >> I agree with the gentleman that got up and spoke. 787 00:44:12,475 --> 00:44:17,875 It's definitely advantageous for the property owners to -- 788 00:44:20,259 --> 00:44:23,898 let's say one of these folks have spent $20,000 in the last 789 00:44:23,898 --> 00:44:27,837 couple of years on a new septic tank. 790 00:44:27,837 --> 00:44:31,177 And I know in the past we have encouraged people 791 00:44:31,177 --> 00:44:35,720 and helped finance to get them to tie on. 792 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:37,387 And it's what we're talking about today. 793 00:44:37,387 --> 00:44:39,757 You said something about the state law. 794 00:44:39,757 --> 00:44:44,397 We still have some folks that still haven't tied on. 795 00:44:44,397 --> 00:44:46,777 We're not forcing them to tie on. 796 00:44:46,777 --> 00:44:49,709 We are encouraging them to tie on. 797 00:44:49,709 --> 00:44:52,557 Which hopefully most of you guys will. 798 00:44:52,557 --> 00:44:57,992 If they don't, they just have to pay the availability fee 799 00:44:57,992 --> 00:44:58,493 each month? 800 00:44:58,493 --> 00:45:02,693 Is that what the penalty will be? 801 00:45:04,117 --> 00:45:04,617 >> Yes. 802 00:45:04,617 --> 00:45:07,284 The city's practice right now is only charging availability fee. 803 00:45:07,284 --> 00:45:09,777 We don't take any other enforcement action for failure 804 00:45:09,777 --> 00:45:10,877 to hook up. 805 00:45:10,877 --> 00:45:13,877 >> When everything's gravity down there. 806 00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:18,670 No homeowner will have to put-- 807 00:45:20,109 --> 00:45:22,260 >> We have a grinder pump that we can connect. 808 00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:26,925 There's a unit price for them to connect that to the service. 809 00:45:26,925 --> 00:45:29,800 >> This is a little different than what we've done 810 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:29,127 in the past. 811 00:45:29,127 --> 00:45:30,544 Are we still doing the same option 812 00:45:30,544 --> 00:45:34,539 that we've had in the past where we give them-- 813 00:45:34,539 --> 00:45:36,997 I guess it's up to us how we want to do it, but in the past 814 00:45:36,997 --> 00:45:38,914 we've encouraged them to tie on within 90 days 815 00:45:38,914 --> 00:45:40,323 and give them a break. 816 00:45:40,323 --> 00:45:43,157 But this way, we're trying to do a package deal 817 00:45:43,157 --> 00:45:44,457 where we let the contractor. 818 00:45:44,457 --> 00:45:46,533 We've never done that before. 819 00:45:46,533 --> 00:45:47,997 This is something new. 820 00:45:47,997 --> 00:45:49,997 >> That's correct. 821 00:45:50,172 --> 00:45:52,435 What time with the construction. 822 00:45:52,435 --> 00:45:55,381 So they would have the time to hook up to the constructor. 823 00:45:55,381 --> 00:45:58,300 That'll be the only option to be able to tie 824 00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:01,770 into the system at this cost. 825 00:46:01,770 --> 00:46:04,318 >> That'll be a better deal for you guys. 826 00:46:04,318 --> 00:46:06,610 They just have to figure out how we're 827 00:46:06,610 --> 00:46:12,661 going to get reimbursed to the >> The state is ratcheting up 828 00:46:14,225 --> 00:46:15,513 the mandatory connection. 829 00:46:15,513 --> 00:46:19,713 The legislature is doing that right now. 830 00:46:20,117 --> 00:46:22,837 There's property issues and ownership issues. 831 00:46:22,837 --> 00:46:27,131 It seems like every legislative session, they keep stepping up. 832 00:46:27,131 --> 00:46:30,718 Connect and so on and so forth there's 833 00:46:30,718 --> 00:46:32,343 benefits to the homeowner because if he 834 00:46:32,343 --> 00:46:34,786 gets rid of the septic tank, frees up 835 00:46:34,786 --> 00:46:36,453 a lot of the real estate for other needs 836 00:46:36,453 --> 00:46:38,482 if they're willing to put in a swimming pool 837 00:46:38,482 --> 00:46:40,981 or add a room to their home or so forth. 838 00:46:40,981 --> 00:46:42,637 They restrict it before because they 839 00:46:42,637 --> 00:46:45,493 had to accommodate this drain field and the septic tank. 840 00:46:45,493 --> 00:46:51,493 So there is added benefit in terms of the property. 841 00:46:56,121 --> 00:46:57,579 >> Thank you for your presentation. 842 00:46:57,579 --> 00:46:58,746 You've answered my question. 843 00:46:58,746 --> 00:47:01,702 >> One of the questions the gentleman asked is the cost 844 00:47:01,702 --> 00:47:04,285 for the hookup here that's going to be on a case by case basis 845 00:47:04,285 --> 00:47:07,779 based on the fixtures and the size of the home. 846 00:47:07,779 --> 00:47:11,394 I guess the residents would have to come forward and say, 847 00:47:11,394 --> 00:47:13,497 I want to become part of this program, whatever 848 00:47:13,497 --> 00:47:15,207 we decide we're gonna do. 849 00:47:15,207 --> 00:47:17,737 And then at that time, they would 850 00:47:17,737 --> 00:47:21,199 be able to get an accurate assessment of what 851 00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:22,765 the cost would be. 852 00:47:22,765 --> 00:47:25,340 We could give you what a basic one would be, 853 00:47:25,340 --> 00:47:29,397 a specific to each home, it's probably going to change. 854 00:47:29,397 --> 00:47:33,597 >> If the sewer currently exists the home, 855 00:47:33,695 --> 00:47:36,237 now the piping has to wrap all the way around the home to get 856 00:47:36,237 --> 00:47:38,117 to the main connection at the street. 857 00:47:38,117 --> 00:47:41,567 Where if it's plumbed out of the front of the house, 858 00:47:41,567 --> 00:47:43,220 it's much less expensive to do that. 859 00:47:43,220 --> 00:47:45,705 A fixed cost of septic tank abandonment. 860 00:47:45,705 --> 00:47:49,305 We have that cost in there. 861 00:47:49,446 --> 00:47:51,377 There's some other costs like site work. 862 00:47:51,377 --> 00:47:55,917 The quantity of pipe varies home to home. 863 00:47:55,917 --> 00:48:00,765 >> I just wanted to address that because there is not one set 864 00:48:00,765 --> 00:48:02,169 price for everybody. 865 00:48:02,169 --> 00:48:06,563 It's going to be on a case by >> We can give them 866 00:48:06,563 --> 00:48:09,146 an estimate of what their impact fees would be if they give us 867 00:48:09,146 --> 00:48:10,277 a fixture count. 868 00:48:10,277 --> 00:48:16,237 We can get a better one in terms of what the picture will be. 869 00:48:16,237 --> 00:48:20,617 >> So the way to look at this is if a resident wants to hook up, 870 00:48:20,617 --> 00:48:23,125 at that point they can come forward and say I want to see 871 00:48:23,125 --> 00:48:25,667 if I want to be part of this and then the assessment would go 872 00:48:25,667 --> 00:48:28,197 forward and they would get a price? 873 00:48:28,197 --> 00:48:34,197 >> They can approach us now , we can get an estimate. 874 00:48:36,245 --> 00:48:38,605 >> This would be an individual contract between the city 875 00:48:38,605 --> 00:48:40,480 and the homeowner for each individual hookup. 876 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,557 It would be a case by case bespoke thing 877 00:48:42,557 --> 00:48:45,402 that we do for each lot. 878 00:48:45,402 --> 00:48:48,117 It won't be all in one shot. 879 00:48:48,117 --> 00:48:51,277 There will be some mechanics to each individual one that 880 00:48:51,277 --> 00:48:52,997 will be by contract. 881 00:48:52,997 --> 00:48:57,217 >> So if they want to write a check or pay cash, 882 00:48:57,217 --> 00:48:57,842 they can do it? 883 00:48:57,842 --> 00:48:59,823 Or we can finance it for them? 884 00:48:59,823 --> 00:49:02,117 Is that where we're at? 885 00:49:02,117 --> 00:49:03,956 >> There's an option available. 886 00:49:03,956 --> 00:49:07,317 We need your direction on that. 887 00:49:07,317 --> 00:49:11,262 >> The septic tanks, the old septic tanks, 888 00:49:11,262 --> 00:49:13,387 don't have to remove those, and that'll be included 889 00:49:13,387 --> 00:49:14,397 in the price. 890 00:49:14,397 --> 00:49:17,997 >> The unit cost for that is 2403.57. 891 00:49:28,147 --> 00:49:31,147 >> Anything else for Mr. Schaefer? 892 00:49:35,539 --> 00:49:36,791 >> Thank you. 893 00:49:36,791 --> 00:49:44,214 >> So finance has done a bang up job giving us a few options 894 00:49:44,214 --> 00:49:46,410 to work with here. 895 00:49:46,410 --> 00:49:50,757 Can someone come and walk us through these? 896 00:49:50,757 --> 00:49:55,143 >> What we feel like is probably the easiest mechanism to finance 897 00:49:55,143 --> 00:49:59,637 this is having an agreement with each property owner and have 898 00:49:59,637 --> 00:50:01,557 a certain term. 899 00:50:01,557 --> 00:50:04,553 We've looked at five year terms, ten year terms and 15 year 900 00:50:04,553 --> 00:50:05,530 terms. 901 00:50:05,530 --> 00:50:06,511 We've looked at interest rates that 902 00:50:06,511 --> 00:50:08,607 would be associated with that. 903 00:50:08,607 --> 00:50:14,700 Finance believes that is 3.75% is what actually currently earns 904 00:50:14,147 --> 00:50:15,469 in the bank. 905 00:50:15,469 --> 00:50:19,317 So we have calculated different options based on those terms 906 00:50:19,317 --> 00:50:22,703 and based on a suggested 3.75 interest rate. 907 00:50:22,703 --> 00:50:26,797 What we would do is assuming you took those terms, 908 00:50:26,797 --> 00:50:29,590 and if the homeowner wanted to agree to those terms, 909 00:50:29,590 --> 00:50:32,270 we would simply assess that annual cost 910 00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:34,527 on the tax bill the same way that we do your fire assessment 911 00:50:34,527 --> 00:50:36,437 or your stormwater assessment. 912 00:50:36,437 --> 00:50:41,741 >> Help me understand that, because this project is outside 913 00:50:41,741 --> 00:50:42,893 the city limits. 914 00:50:42,893 --> 00:50:44,813 Our utility and service area. 915 00:50:44,813 --> 00:50:47,463 This is outside the city limits. 916 00:50:47,463 --> 00:50:51,181 So they're not currently getting anything through from us, 917 00:50:51,181 --> 00:50:54,357 but we'll work with the property appraiser. 918 00:50:54,357 --> 00:50:57,370 >> The tax collector and the homeowner to have them agree 919 00:50:57,370 --> 00:50:58,197 to do this. 920 00:50:58,197 --> 00:51:01,717 They could just write a check, but that would be a backstop 921 00:51:01,717 --> 00:51:04,850 to make sure since the city is fronting 922 00:51:04,850 --> 00:51:07,879 all the money to make sure that we are able to collect them. 923 00:51:07,879 --> 00:51:10,349 In the past, what happened is the city 924 00:51:10,349 --> 00:51:11,837 took mortgages on the properties. 925 00:51:11,837 --> 00:51:16,770 And there was a more complicated collection system. 926 00:51:16,770 --> 00:51:18,170 And it was administratively burdensome 927 00:51:18,170 --> 00:51:19,874 and didn't work out very well. 928 00:51:19,874 --> 00:51:21,957 This is what we think is a simplified version that 929 00:51:21,957 --> 00:51:27,357 allows everybody to kind of get what they need. 930 00:51:28,197 --> 00:51:33,597 >> The options outlined in this memo are cash up, 931 00:51:34,437 --> 00:51:37,437 installation options, installment options secured 932 00:51:39,832 --> 00:51:41,919 by Leon in the property. 933 00:51:41,919 --> 00:51:44,437 And the third would be the voluntarily 934 00:51:44,437 --> 00:51:47,370 agree to a Non-ad valorem assessment. 935 00:51:47,370 --> 00:51:50,380 So those are the three options that I 936 00:51:50,380 --> 00:51:54,717 believe the staff recommendation was the not assessment. 937 00:51:54,717 --> 00:51:58,619 >> And that's attached to the deed of the House. 938 00:51:58,619 --> 00:52:00,957 They sell the house and it just carries over. 939 00:52:00,957 --> 00:52:03,397 >> If they sell their house, the new owner would take care 940 00:52:03,397 --> 00:52:05,897 of those payments because the person who's gone doesn't want 941 00:52:05,897 --> 00:52:07,897 to be paying. 942 00:52:10,314 --> 00:52:11,397 >> If we go with a non or. 943 00:52:11,397 --> 00:52:16,197 >> Similar to the way the solar panels work. 944 00:52:16,317 --> 00:52:19,317 >> And then amongst those options, 945 00:52:20,796 --> 00:52:23,450 we have outlined three terms. 946 00:52:23,450 --> 00:52:27,497 A five year term, ten year term and a 15 year term. 947 00:52:27,497 --> 00:52:33,497 And as you mentioned, the staff is recommending a 3.75% interest 948 00:52:36,387 --> 00:52:40,356 rate, which is what the utility fund is currently 949 00:52:40,356 --> 00:52:42,773 being able to get for that money and for the bank account. 950 00:52:42,773 --> 00:52:45,677 So it's not taken from the entire city's DoorDash 951 00:52:45,677 --> 00:52:49,181 every utility pair in order to subsidize. 952 00:52:49,181 --> 00:52:53,381 That is our break even point there. 953 00:52:53,637 --> 00:52:57,887 And I see that staff has recommended basically 954 00:52:57,887 --> 00:53:03,887 a ten year term at that 3.75% and Non-ad valorem assessment. 955 00:53:04,347 --> 00:53:10,347 I think that's a useful starting point for a discussion. 956 00:53:16,378 --> 00:53:18,170 >> Is there a way to offer all three terms? 957 00:53:18,170 --> 00:53:21,566 Or is it only a way we can choose five, 10 or 15? 958 00:53:21,566 --> 00:53:23,983 >> Probably finance question because they're the ones that 959 00:53:23,983 --> 00:53:26,863 have to track all this and make sure that it all works. 960 00:53:26,863 --> 00:53:28,857 >> When we did the Leon in the early 2000, 961 00:53:28,857 --> 00:53:31,517 it was very taxing on our finance department 962 00:53:31,517 --> 00:53:35,167 because if they sent the bill, we didn't know if it was gonna-- 963 00:53:35,167 --> 00:53:38,767 so we're asking for the non. 964 00:53:38,812 --> 00:53:40,687 If you recommend that, we could recommend one 965 00:53:40,687 --> 00:53:42,354 where they can write a check to the city 966 00:53:42,354 --> 00:53:46,894 and we can reimburse-- those would be the two options 967 00:53:46,894 --> 00:53:47,477 I'd recommend. 968 00:53:47,477 --> 00:53:51,237 >> If they desire to overpay their payment or pay a little 969 00:53:51,237 --> 00:53:54,277 bit early, are they able to do that? 970 00:53:54,277 --> 00:53:55,995 >> Yes. 971 00:53:55,995 --> 00:53:59,845 If they wanted to come in for one year 972 00:53:59,845 --> 00:54:01,803 and say I'm gonna pay all the money in advance, 973 00:54:01,803 --> 00:54:04,917 don't put it in my tax roll, we want to do that. 974 00:54:04,917 --> 00:54:08,517 We want to be flexible with this. 975 00:54:08,517 --> 00:54:12,586 >> But they would go to the Bay County tax collector to do that? 976 00:54:12,586 --> 00:54:14,970 How would that work? 977 00:54:14,970 --> 00:54:16,597 >> The way it would work is if they gave a check to finance, 978 00:54:16,597 --> 00:54:18,225 and said here's my annual payment, 979 00:54:18,225 --> 00:54:21,960 then we would contact the tax collector because we have 980 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,221 to submit the roll to the tax collector every year. 981 00:54:23,221 --> 00:54:27,237 We would just take them off the roll for that year. 982 00:54:27,237 --> 00:54:30,837 >> Hopefully Deborah's not mad at me. 983 00:54:34,294 --> 00:54:36,694 >> She's nodding her head. 984 00:54:36,826 --> 00:54:38,243 >> I was gonna say if the council, 985 00:54:38,243 --> 00:54:41,826 depending on what the council says, 986 00:54:41,826 --> 00:54:48,444 it's really A, and, or one of the others and they could pay 987 00:54:48,444 --> 00:54:51,229 partial upfront and they would assess and finance would adjust 988 00:54:51,229 --> 00:54:52,831 that to the roll. 989 00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:58,337 I was just going to say that you can decide I've got half of this 990 00:54:58,337 --> 00:55:00,917 that I want to pay up front and therefore only half 991 00:55:00,917 --> 00:55:06,797 the charge is going to go on the roll of the Non-envelope. 992 00:55:06,797 --> 00:55:12,197 >> And to clarify the action, you're asking for direction 993 00:55:12,763 --> 00:55:16,574 to finish creating this program and would this come back 994 00:55:16,574 --> 00:55:21,618 as a resolution or would this be >> The program would come back 995 00:55:21,618 --> 00:55:23,785 fully fleshed out as a resolution and we'll build it 996 00:55:23,785 --> 00:55:28,397 out with all of the details for your direction. 997 00:55:28,397 --> 00:55:32,147 >> Sounds like we've given as many options as we can 998 00:55:32,147 --> 00:55:34,147 to encourage them. 999 00:55:35,797 --> 00:55:38,197 >> To Councilman Register's point, 1000 00:55:41,967 --> 00:55:47,517 could we offer multiple terms or should we decide on one term? 1001 00:55:47,517 --> 00:55:50,198 >> I think staff recommendation is one term. 1002 00:55:50,198 --> 00:55:52,823 I like that term to be sensitive because you'd have a home that 1003 00:55:52,823 --> 00:55:58,797 ends up being a 10,000 a year you're taking $1,000 of these 1004 00:55:58,797 --> 00:56:01,622 people's household income for an annual basis for those ten 1005 00:56:01,622 --> 00:56:02,122 years. 1006 00:56:02,122 --> 00:56:05,482 So maybe we can look at the longest term 1007 00:56:05,482 --> 00:56:08,470 to be able to see if they can pay it off early. 1008 00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:12,670 And that would be the least impact, 1009 00:56:12,820 --> 00:56:16,765 and I think you get the most response 1010 00:56:16,765 --> 00:56:18,557 and maybe dragging it out a little further. 1011 00:56:18,557 --> 00:56:21,885 >> In the memo, do we have the average cost? 1012 00:56:21,885 --> 00:56:23,885 It was 7000? 1013 00:56:25,317 --> 00:56:31,917 A model home was about three bed, two bath model home. 1014 00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:40,332 It was roughly $7,000. 1015 00:56:40,332 --> 00:56:41,957 The annual payment we have in the chart 1016 00:56:41,957 --> 00:56:47,957 is in the packet online this is available for everyone. 1017 00:56:49,550 --> 00:56:55,550 It's based per $10,000 so if they go above that, 30% above, 1018 00:56:57,344 --> 00:56:59,744 they would get that 1,200. 1019 00:57:04,890 --> 00:57:07,890 Let's take this in pieces. 1020 00:57:08,117 --> 00:57:12,917 One is the options of-- we'll potentially agree 1021 00:57:15,895 --> 00:57:17,145 that we'll take cash up front. 1022 00:57:17,145 --> 00:57:19,367 And the other two pieces of the options 1023 00:57:19,367 --> 00:57:23,610 are installment plan based on security or non ad valorem 1024 00:57:23,610 --> 00:57:24,143 assessment. 1025 00:57:24,143 --> 00:57:26,543 Staff recommends Non-adversarial assessment. 1026 00:57:34,437 --> 00:57:38,370 so we've got that portion done. 1027 00:57:40,877 --> 00:57:44,335 >> Would it be possible to require, 1028 00:57:44,335 --> 00:57:47,335 should the property change hands, 1029 00:57:48,107 --> 00:57:52,770 this debt would be paid off at that time? 1030 00:57:52,770 --> 00:57:55,378 >> We can have an acceleration clause. 1031 00:57:55,378 --> 00:57:56,957 Which is exactly that. 1032 00:57:56,957 --> 00:58:02,357 If they sell it, then it's all due up. 1033 00:58:08,583 --> 00:58:10,166 >> I personally don't want to do that. 1034 00:58:10,166 --> 00:58:12,770 That's my personal opinion. 1035 00:58:12,770 --> 00:58:14,917 >> It was just a suggestion. 1036 00:58:14,917 --> 00:58:19,574 >> I think it's just keeping it with the property. 1037 00:58:19,574 --> 00:58:21,657 It would have to be disclosed at the property sale 1038 00:58:21,657 --> 00:58:23,637 price the property sale time. 1039 00:58:23,637 --> 00:58:27,437 Any prospective buyer would have to do their own diligence. 1040 00:58:27,437 --> 00:58:31,651 >> At that point they can roll it in alone. 1041 00:58:31,651 --> 00:58:35,383 >> They can pay it off because that would have to be disclosed. 1042 00:58:35,383 --> 00:58:39,877 >> It just makes sense to clean it up at that point. 1043 00:58:39,877 --> 00:58:42,141 >> That's a good idea. 1044 00:58:42,141 --> 00:58:43,930 I just think we're trying to keep this one 1045 00:58:43,930 --> 00:58:46,237 simple as my opinion on it. 1046 00:58:46,237 --> 00:58:48,237 Thoughts? 1047 00:58:48,477 --> 00:58:50,477 >> 15 years. 1048 00:58:52,546 --> 00:58:55,821 >> Let's talk about the interest rate first, 1049 00:58:55,821 --> 00:58:58,450 then we can do the term. 1050 00:58:58,450 --> 00:59:03,854 The proposed interest rate is 375, which is a very good rate. 1051 00:59:03,854 --> 00:59:09,254 I think what home mortgage is now are over 6. 1052 00:59:13,231 --> 00:59:14,939 The city is not making any money on this. 1053 00:59:14,939 --> 00:59:16,957 This is what keeps the utility fund whole 1054 00:59:16,957 --> 00:59:20,777 without having the rest of the subscribers 1055 00:59:20,777 --> 00:59:23,177 basically subsidizing this program. 1056 00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:30,410 375? 1057 00:59:30,975 --> 00:59:33,517 >> There's a fee associated with the tax collector collecting 1058 00:59:33,517 --> 00:59:35,157 this? 1059 00:59:35,157 --> 00:59:36,730 >> Usually 2%. 1060 00:59:36,730 --> 00:59:38,397 >> Is that going to be added in as well? 1061 00:59:38,397 --> 00:59:42,877 >> We will need to add that into the total amount of the debt. 1062 00:59:42,877 --> 00:59:47,770 >> I just wanted to make that clear. 1063 00:59:47,557 --> 00:59:49,957 >> Everyone is good with 3.75? 1064 00:59:52,957 --> 00:59:57,370 We got those two and now we're talking term. 1065 00:59:57,370 --> 01:00:01,553 We have the five year term, and your term, 1066 01:00:01,553 --> 01:00:04,197 15 year term proposed and model. 1067 01:00:04,197 --> 01:00:06,453 We could pick 14.5 years if we wanted to, 1068 01:00:06,453 --> 01:00:08,351 but let's start with those three options. 1069 01:00:08,351 --> 01:00:12,551 What are the thoughts of the council? 1070 01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:16,128 >> I agree with the Vice mayor, I'd give them as many years 1071 01:00:16,128 --> 01:00:17,109 as possible. 1072 01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:23,709 15 years, if they want to pay it off earlier, they can. 1073 01:00:24,637 --> 01:00:26,637 >> I'm good with 15. 1074 01:00:29,997 --> 01:00:33,497 I think you got a lot more participation at that point 1075 01:00:33,497 --> 01:00:35,497 as well. 1076 01:00:39,429 --> 01:00:40,797 >> I'm fine with that. 1077 01:00:40,797 --> 01:00:44,397 >> Can someone do a motion to wrap this entire thing up? 1078 01:00:44,397 --> 01:00:50,997 Vice Mayor, you're the one that can do the complicated motions. 1079 01:00:52,980 --> 01:00:57,180 >> This is more of a direct staff? 1080 01:00:57,340 --> 01:01:00,389 Motion to direct staff to create a resolution for sewer hookup 1081 01:01:00,389 --> 01:01:05,789 in North Lagoon project to accommodate the proposed options 1082 01:01:07,167 --> 01:01:12,567 A and C. C option being including a 3.75 percentage 1083 01:01:14,877 --> 01:01:17,877 rate and a 15 year term. 1084 01:01:18,277 --> 01:01:21,829 >> We have a motion and a second and I'm not going to repeat what 1085 01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:23,829 you just said. 1086 01:01:29,106 --> 01:01:31,106 Please call roll. 1087 01:01:32,157 --> 01:01:39,957 [Roll call] I will come back to us as a resolution and obviously 1088 01:01:41,507 --> 01:01:45,557 staff can be in contact with you folks and I know Mark has said 1089 01:01:45,557 --> 01:01:47,149 he had been to a few of your meetings 1090 01:01:47,149 --> 01:01:50,461 and we're happy to continue to talk through this process. 1091 01:01:50,461 --> 01:01:55,861 It won't be enacted until we do the resolution. 1092 01:01:56,474 --> 01:01:58,766 This was just discussing what goes into the resolution. 1093 01:01:58,766 --> 01:02:00,597 The resolution is going to come back to us. 1094 01:02:00,597 --> 01:02:05,171 >> I would encourage everyone to get out there and spread 1095 01:02:05,171 --> 01:02:08,370 the word because apparently they've already started. 1096 01:02:08,370 --> 01:02:14,637 Everyone kind of needs to be ready to pull the trigger, 1097 01:02:16,882 --> 01:02:20,105 if they want to do it. 1098 01:02:20,105 --> 01:02:22,397 >> I was originally a regular agenda item number seven, 1099 01:02:22,397 --> 01:02:24,257 which we moved to the first. 1100 01:02:24,257 --> 01:02:27,317 We're now going on our regularly scheduled agenda. 1101 01:02:27,317 --> 01:02:29,717 Agenda item number one. 1102 01:02:29,973 --> 01:02:32,117 Large conditional use application 1103 01:02:32,117 --> 01:02:34,517 located at 201 Hutchinson Boulevard. 1104 01:02:39,597 --> 01:02:43,757 This is a public hearing Quasi-judicial use. 1105 01:02:43,757 --> 01:02:49,820 There's extra mechanics whenever we get one of these quasi uses. 1106 01:02:49,820 --> 01:02:50,837 I have to read a bunch of stuff. 1107 01:02:50,837 --> 01:02:53,677 This is a hearing to consider the approval of a conditional 1108 01:02:53,677 --> 01:02:58,477 use application from LSE Shipwreck Island LLC section 1109 01:02:58,717 --> 01:03:01,717 5.06.01 of the city's development code. 1110 01:03:02,850 --> 01:03:05,557 This is a quasi judicial hearing governed by the city's Land 1111 01:03:05,557 --> 01:03:06,297 Development Code. 1112 01:03:06,297 --> 01:03:08,755 This hearing is based on the recommendation of the Planning 1113 01:03:08,755 --> 01:03:11,343 Board approval, Planning Board member approvals, 1114 01:03:11,343 --> 01:03:13,159 the members of the Council have provided 1115 01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:17,770 a copy of that for our review. 1116 01:03:17,770 --> 01:03:20,677 We will now begin the hearing. 1117 01:03:23,682 --> 01:03:25,307 We move on to soaring in the witnesses. 1118 01:03:25,307 --> 01:03:29,757 All persons wishing to speak during this hearing. 1119 01:03:29,757 --> 01:03:33,357 Please rise to be sworn in. 1120 01:03:35,157 --> 01:03:37,490 >> Do you swear or affirm that the evidence you're about 1121 01:03:37,490 --> 01:03:39,277 to give will be the truth the whole truth and nothing 1122 01:03:39,277 --> 01:03:40,237 but the truth? 1123 01:03:40,237 --> 01:03:45,637 >> Mr. Leonard, where the notice requirements met for this 1124 01:03:45,677 --> 01:03:47,677 hearing? 1125 01:03:51,380 --> 01:03:52,338 >> Yes, sir. 1126 01:03:52,338 --> 01:03:52,772 >> We now move on to disclosures. 1127 01:03:52,772 --> 01:03:54,314 At this time, we will ask each member 1128 01:03:54,314 --> 01:03:56,597 of the council to make their earnings disclosure. 1129 01:03:56,597 --> 01:03:58,597 >> Nothing to disclose. 1130 01:04:01,540 --> 01:04:02,277 >> Nothing to disclose. 1131 01:04:02,277 --> 01:04:04,237 >> Nothing to disclose. 1132 01:04:04,237 --> 01:04:06,237 >> Nothing to disclose. 1133 01:04:06,437 --> 01:04:07,949 >> I also have nothing to disclose. 1134 01:04:07,949 --> 01:04:10,637 Next is the staff presentation. 1135 01:04:10,637 --> 01:04:14,997 At this point, we will hear the staff report. 1136 01:04:14,997 --> 01:04:16,677 Mr. Leonard. 1137 01:04:16,677 --> 01:04:19,349 >> Thank you, mayor and council. 1138 01:04:19,349 --> 01:04:21,426 This is a large conditional use. 1139 01:04:21,426 --> 01:04:23,830 It's over three acres in size. 1140 01:04:23,830 --> 01:04:27,777 It's to the applicant is less shipwreck LLC. 1141 01:04:27,777 --> 01:04:31,216 And they've submitted the large conditional use application 1142 01:04:31,216 --> 01:04:36,616 for a new water slide at shipwreck Island waterpark, 1143 01:04:41,938 --> 01:04:44,388 the property zone c h. 1144 01:04:44,388 --> 01:04:46,497 And it's in the FB02 Zoning District. 1145 01:04:46,497 --> 01:04:48,573 And because it's a conditional use, 1146 01:04:48,573 --> 01:04:50,627 it would have to meet 12 general criteria. 1147 01:04:50,627 --> 01:04:54,676 And the City Council, you have discretion to impose conditions. 1148 01:04:54,676 --> 01:04:59,476 It determines that there are necessary-- required findings 1149 01:05:00,502 --> 01:05:01,752 are met, the must be approved. 1150 01:05:01,752 --> 01:05:05,185 The applicant held his required community meeting on August 1151 01:05:05,185 --> 01:05:07,631 the 4th prior to the Planning Board meeting, 1152 01:05:07,631 --> 01:05:09,957 and the Planning Board recommended approval of this 1153 01:05:09,957 --> 01:05:12,587 request at its meeting of August the 12th of 2026 with 1154 01:05:12,587 --> 01:05:13,629 the following conditions. 1155 01:05:13,629 --> 01:05:16,743 There is two of them pier is at a 20 foot setback 1156 01:05:16,743 --> 01:05:18,749 from Hutchinson Boulevard is met on all portions 1157 01:05:18,749 --> 01:05:21,291 of the new amusement structure and number two of modification 1158 01:05:21,291 --> 01:05:24,414 allowing the existing six foot black chain link fencing 1159 01:05:24,414 --> 01:05:29,814 to remain in lieu of required solid faced fence. 1160 01:05:31,963 --> 01:05:32,796 >> What was setback? 1161 01:05:32,796 --> 01:05:38,196 >> 20 feet for the entire structure of the new waterslide. 1162 01:05:38,380 --> 01:05:40,380 That is it. 1163 01:05:43,332 --> 01:05:48,126 >> Okay, that is it for the staff presentation. 1164 01:05:48,126 --> 01:05:50,201 Thank you, Mr. Leonard. 1165 01:05:50,201 --> 01:05:55,601 At this time we will hear from the applicant. 1166 01:05:57,559 --> 01:05:59,142 >> Thank you for having me here today. 1167 01:05:59,142 --> 01:06:00,559 Some new slide tower presentations 1168 01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:02,877 is a great opportunity for the waterpark itself. 1169 01:06:02,877 --> 01:06:05,877 It's a $5 million investment in 260. 1170 01:06:06,389 --> 01:06:08,819 Roughly 20 seasonal jobs added to the park itself. 1171 01:06:08,819 --> 01:06:10,402 We've worked with the city extensively 1172 01:06:10,402 --> 01:06:12,517 to make sure that we comply with all necessary municipal and 1173 01:06:12,517 --> 01:06:14,377 county regulations on this particular slide tower. 1174 01:06:14,377 --> 01:06:16,917 It's going to be a great new attraction for the community, 1175 01:06:16,917 --> 01:06:19,357 and we're very excited to construct this. 1176 01:06:19,357 --> 01:06:21,807 Once we hopefully get approval from the City Council 1177 01:06:21,807 --> 01:06:25,300 to pursue this, we're getting action immediately. 1178 01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:26,706 I'm happy to answer any questions 1179 01:06:26,706 --> 01:06:29,637 that the Council might have on this particular project. 1180 01:06:29,637 --> 01:06:32,370 >> What is the location? 1181 01:06:34,142 --> 01:06:36,824 >> It's on the Northeast corner of the waterpark itself. 1182 01:06:36,824 --> 01:06:40,424 >> Where the children's play area is? 1183 01:06:45,935 --> 01:06:46,685 >> That's correct. 1184 01:06:46,685 --> 01:06:48,685 Northwest corner. 1185 01:06:51,611 --> 01:06:54,611 >> Is it a water slide? 1186 01:06:55,885 --> 01:06:57,140 >> Yes, 1187 01:06:57,140 --> 01:06:59,140 >>Height? 1188 01:06:59,650 --> 01:07:01,650 >> 50 feet. 1189 01:07:01,725 --> 01:07:04,125 >> Questions from the council? 1190 01:07:06,496 --> 01:07:08,130 >> Okay. 1191 01:07:08,130 --> 01:07:09,963 >> Could you state your name for the record? 1192 01:07:09,963 --> 01:07:11,963 >> Clark Davis. 1193 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:19,680 >> That's why I didn't know what to call you. 1194 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,440 Thank you, Mr. Davis. 1195 01:07:25,245 --> 01:07:29,445 Mr. Davis, seeing none from the applicant. 1196 01:07:31,616 --> 01:07:33,514 Thank you, sir. 1197 01:07:33,514 --> 01:07:36,256 >> I'm just going to be a little informal. 1198 01:07:36,256 --> 01:07:38,381 At this time we will hear from any affected parties 1199 01:07:38,381 --> 01:07:39,441 who wish to speak. 1200 01:07:39,441 --> 01:07:41,269 Please come up and state your name 1201 01:07:41,269 --> 01:07:44,364 and address for the record of any affected parties. 1202 01:07:44,364 --> 01:07:50,364 At this time, you want to take any public comment. 1203 01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:54,860 Seeing none. 1204 01:07:55,301 --> 01:07:59,263 At this time, we will hear any rebuttal 1205 01:07:59,263 --> 01:08:02,465 by staff in the affected party or the applicant. 1206 01:08:02,465 --> 01:08:04,465 Any rebuttal? 1207 01:08:06,202 --> 01:08:08,202 No rebuttal. 1208 01:08:09,314 --> 01:08:13,514 Mr. Davis, you have anything to add? 1209 01:08:16,287 --> 01:08:16,929 >> No. 1210 01:08:16,929 --> 01:08:19,785 >> At this time, we will close the evidentiary portion 1211 01:08:19,785 --> 01:08:20,957 of the hearing. 1212 01:08:20,957 --> 01:08:24,485 And at this time we will hear the closing arguments 1213 01:08:24,485 --> 01:08:25,589 by the staff. 1214 01:08:25,589 --> 01:08:26,589 No closing argument. 1215 01:08:26,589 --> 01:08:28,413 We will move to council discussion. 1216 01:08:28,413 --> 01:08:31,170 We have a conditional use and the Planning Board 1217 01:08:31,170 --> 01:08:35,781 put on the 20 foot setback and required and allowed 1218 01:08:35,781 --> 01:08:40,581 them to keep the existing chain link fence, 1219 01:08:43,225 --> 01:08:45,517 instead of moving to a bigger fence which was required. 1220 01:08:45,517 --> 01:08:50,776 >> I think the chain link fence makes it more esthetically 1221 01:08:50,776 --> 01:08:52,693 appealing to continue it the whole way around. 1222 01:08:52,693 --> 01:08:54,997 I think the 20 foot setback is good. 1223 01:08:54,997 --> 01:08:57,397 >> It's a water park. 1224 01:08:58,492 --> 01:09:02,692 You want to see what's in there. 1225 01:09:03,401 --> 01:09:04,359 >> Especially at night. 1226 01:09:04,359 --> 01:09:06,759 It's good for security. 1227 01:09:08,935 --> 01:09:12,434 >> Mr. Davis, If we approve this with the recommended conditions 1228 01:09:12,434 --> 01:09:17,934 by the Planning Board, we have to re-add the conditions 1229 01:09:17,934 --> 01:09:20,934 recommended by the Planning Board? 1230 01:09:25,995 --> 01:09:30,370 so a motion could be just adopt the Planning Board order? 1231 01:09:30,370 --> 01:09:32,757 >> Motion to adopt the Planning Board's order of the 20 foot 1232 01:09:32,757 --> 01:09:35,463 setback and required chain link fencing although we would 1233 01:09:35,463 --> 01:09:37,463 normally require. 1234 01:09:38,277 --> 01:09:40,277 >> And to approve? 1235 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:46,262 >> Second. 1236 01:09:46,262 --> 01:09:48,554 >> We have a motion to adopt the Planning Board's order 1237 01:09:48,554 --> 01:09:49,765 and to approve. 1238 01:09:49,765 --> 01:09:51,765 Please call roll. 1239 01:09:55,106 --> 01:09:58,706 [Roll call] Got through that one. 1240 01:10:03,303 --> 01:10:05,783 We now move on to regular agenda item number two resolution 1241 01:10:05,783 --> 01:10:07,317 26-133. 1242 01:10:07,317 --> 01:10:09,317 Mr. Davis. 1243 01:10:09,997 --> 01:10:13,587 >> Resolution amending the budget for the City of Panama 1244 01:10:13,587 --> 01:10:17,787 Beach Florida, the fiscal year 2025 2026 appropriating revenues 1245 01:10:21,127 --> 01:10:24,370 and providing an effective date. 1246 01:10:24,370 --> 01:10:27,370 >> Is there any public comment? 1247 01:10:28,244 --> 01:10:34,844 Mr. Davis, Could you help us understand what's going on here? 1248 01:10:40,727 --> 01:10:44,314 >> Before you, you have the amended budget for fiscal year 1249 01:10:44,314 --> 01:10:44,814 2026. 1250 01:10:44,814 --> 01:10:47,757 All through the year, there's been 1251 01:10:47,757 --> 01:10:50,559 a budget amendments presented to you that you have approved. 1252 01:10:50,559 --> 01:10:53,237 And also throughout the year, the department heads 1253 01:10:53,237 --> 01:10:55,157 have also made some budget amendments 1254 01:10:55,157 --> 01:10:58,757 with the approval from the manager 1255 01:11:01,245 --> 01:11:04,245 and myself within their authority. 1256 01:11:05,797 --> 01:11:08,490 The budget amendment that you have before you 1257 01:11:08,490 --> 01:11:11,649 encompasses all of those amendments for 2026. 1258 01:11:15,864 --> 01:11:17,739 >> This is the budget we originally approved, 1259 01:11:17,739 --> 01:11:20,720 and as we enacted them through the resolution throughout 1260 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:27,272 the year, and ask the department heads if the request was under 1261 01:11:32,704 --> 01:11:35,121 Drew spending authority or within drew spending authority, 1262 01:11:35,121 --> 01:11:36,337 it encompasses those as well. 1263 01:11:36,337 --> 01:11:38,337 Is that accurate? 1264 01:11:42,892 --> 01:11:43,872 >> Yes. 1265 01:11:43,872 --> 01:11:43,882 >> Do you need Miss Gibson up here for this? 1266 01:11:43,882 --> 01:11:45,520 >> Possibly. 1267 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:50,989 I got some calls yesterday from some folks in the community 1268 01:11:50,989 --> 01:11:55,789 about, and we're short on $41,000 shortfall for railway 1269 01:12:01,533 --> 01:12:02,962 and transportation. 1270 01:12:02,962 --> 01:12:03,717 I think we got our wires wires crossed here 1271 01:12:03,717 --> 01:12:05,134 because I think in the TPO meeting 1272 01:12:05,134 --> 01:12:07,757 earlier before we did our budget meeting last year, 1273 01:12:07,757 --> 01:12:10,757 and this is all true and up this year 2026. 1274 01:12:10,757 --> 01:12:13,197 There was a TPO meeting held and everybody 1275 01:12:13,197 --> 01:12:17,150 agreed that each municipality of the shortfall, the TDC 1276 01:12:17,150 --> 01:12:19,607 did not pick up that year. 1277 01:12:19,607 --> 01:12:22,312 I've worked it out with the TDC to pick up going forward, 1278 01:12:22,312 --> 01:12:26,905 but we had a $41,000 shortfall that I think we had a meeting. 1279 01:12:26,905 --> 01:12:29,197 And I'm just looking for clarification from our members 1280 01:12:29,197 --> 01:12:30,489 so we can have some discussion. 1281 01:12:30,489 --> 01:12:33,677 Right now we have a problem, and I'd love to address it. 1282 01:12:33,677 --> 01:12:36,587 We have a pretty large cash Carryforward. 1283 01:12:36,587 --> 01:12:39,517 And if we did agree as a municipality in that meeting, 1284 01:12:39,517 --> 01:12:44,645 and I would like to uphold what we said we would do and cover 1285 01:12:44,645 --> 01:12:45,901 the $41,000. 1286 01:12:45,901 --> 01:12:47,901 So to -- 1287 01:12:52,334 --> 01:12:54,501 >> To clarify, we passed the budget at this Council. 1288 01:12:54,501 --> 01:12:58,101 And that had the $41,000 in it. 1289 01:13:01,872 --> 01:13:02,372 >> 45. 1290 01:13:02,372 --> 01:13:02,872 It was 86. 1291 01:13:02,872 --> 01:13:05,872 I think we paid 45-- 1292 01:13:09,970 --> 01:13:12,917 >> We passed 49 775, but then the TPO voted for their budget 1293 01:13:12,917 --> 01:13:15,477 that didn't include that, and that was a higher contribution 1294 01:13:15,477 --> 01:13:16,452 from the city. 1295 01:13:16,452 --> 01:13:18,770 >> I think there was some conversation. 1296 01:13:18,770 --> 01:13:20,317 There was some wires crossed and something we missed, 1297 01:13:20,317 --> 01:13:22,750 we got a shortfall and it's an opportunity for us 1298 01:13:22,750 --> 01:13:25,557 to rectify the shortfall and fix the problem that we got a hand. 1299 01:13:25,557 --> 01:13:29,757 >> Wouldn't that go in the next item? 1300 01:13:34,351 --> 01:13:36,730 J3, 26-27. 1301 01:13:36,730 --> 01:13:38,281 >> This is actually for last year that we were short, 1302 01:13:38,281 --> 01:13:40,997 but we've got the TDC to pick up that portion. 1303 01:13:40,997 --> 01:13:48,797 >> So if you want to make an adjustment, it would be on J2, 1304 01:13:53,930 --> 01:13:53,996 not J3. 1305 01:13:53,996 --> 01:13:58,180 What's your recommendation or your >> My recommendation would 1306 01:13:58,180 --> 01:13:59,180 be to cover the $41,000. 1307 01:13:59,180 --> 01:14:01,557 This is a system our workforce uses to get up and down. 1308 01:14:01,557 --> 01:14:03,957 >> I agree with you. 1309 01:14:06,889 --> 01:14:09,707 >> And just for clarification, we were made aware of this early 1310 01:14:09,707 --> 01:14:10,796 enough to where we have two resolutions depending 1311 01:14:10,796 --> 01:14:11,756 on your action. 1312 01:14:11,756 --> 01:14:13,710 Finance staff has already built that in. 1313 01:14:13,710 --> 01:14:16,117 So we can immediately move in that direction. 1314 01:14:16,117 --> 01:14:20,917 >> And it's in front of you in your? 1315 01:14:21,621 --> 01:14:24,257 >> And also right now it's a one off. 1316 01:14:24,257 --> 01:14:26,757 >> TDC will pick up next year and we won't have this problem 1317 01:14:26,757 --> 01:14:27,340 going forward. 1318 01:14:27,340 --> 01:14:29,991 I think it's important that we get our workforce. 1319 01:14:29,991 --> 01:14:33,591 People that live in our communities 1320 01:14:33,663 --> 01:14:35,163 and pay tax in our communities, they 1321 01:14:35,163 --> 01:14:36,371 need to get to and from work. 1322 01:14:36,371 --> 01:14:40,571 I think we got some wires crossed. 1323 01:14:42,292 --> 01:14:43,439 No fault of anybody's. 1324 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:44,997 Just something we can do to fix a problem and rectify moving 1325 01:14:44,997 --> 01:14:45,717 forward. 1326 01:14:45,717 --> 01:14:52,317 >> Do we have an MOU with Bayway or TPO for this? 1327 01:14:52,597 --> 01:14:56,925 I've been on the TPO, and this came in before I was on the TPO. 1328 01:14:56,925 --> 01:14:58,901 I don't know the background on that. 1329 01:14:58,901 --> 01:15:01,917 I don't know that Paul would know because Paul didn't come on 1330 01:15:01,917 --> 01:15:03,357 until two years ago. 1331 01:15:03,357 --> 01:15:08,157 >> I think they vote on it every year. 1332 01:15:08,824 --> 01:15:11,677 >> I do not recall having voted on it. 1333 01:15:11,677 --> 01:15:16,903 >> Mr. Davis, do we have an MOU with the TPO? 1334 01:15:16,903 --> 01:15:17,945 >> I haven't seen an MOU. 1335 01:15:17,945 --> 01:15:20,373 My understanding is that the TPO level, the cost 1336 01:15:20,373 --> 01:15:22,773 share amongst the cities-- 1337 01:15:25,829 --> 01:15:27,412 >> Miss Gibson, feel free to sit down. 1338 01:15:27,412 --> 01:15:29,812 >> It's based on population. 1339 01:15:31,610 --> 01:15:34,279 >> They track where people get off and get 1340 01:15:34,279 --> 01:15:36,237 on, and there's a table that we see every year. 1341 01:15:36,237 --> 01:15:39,190 Generally it tracks what they believe 1342 01:15:39,190 --> 01:15:41,357 are proportionate share is compared to other cities. 1343 01:15:41,357 --> 01:15:45,557 And then they submit a funding request 1344 01:15:45,717 --> 01:15:50,238 to the cities in that end, approved in your budget process 1345 01:15:50,238 --> 01:15:50,738 every year. 1346 01:15:50,738 --> 01:15:52,990 I have never seen an MOU. 1347 01:15:52,990 --> 01:15:54,463 I can't say it doesn't exist. 1348 01:15:54,463 --> 01:15:57,381 My understanding is the process originated from the TPO, 1349 01:15:57,381 --> 01:16:01,581 and it's funded by each city subject 1350 01:16:02,597 --> 01:16:04,997 to your budget appropriation. 1351 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,473 >> I can't remember what meeting of the TPO. 1352 01:16:19,473 --> 01:16:21,598 One of the things that really jumped to cost for us 1353 01:16:21,598 --> 01:16:23,998 is the Sunday Service. 1354 01:16:24,370 --> 01:16:27,627 At the time, TDC was paying the Sunday service, 1355 01:16:27,627 --> 01:16:29,485 and we had a gap. 1356 01:16:29,485 --> 01:16:33,685 This is that gap from my understanding 1357 01:16:35,826 --> 01:16:37,826 and my conversations. 1358 01:16:38,889 --> 01:16:40,597 I want to say that February's meeting was 1359 01:16:40,597 --> 01:16:42,997 addressed at the TPO. 1360 01:16:45,718 --> 01:16:48,285 I have to go back and double check. 1361 01:16:48,285 --> 01:16:51,739 But coming back on the next cycle, the TDC has looked at it 1362 01:16:51,739 --> 01:16:55,370 and said, I think we're going to be funding this as well. 1363 01:16:55,370 --> 01:17:00,945 >> If I recall, that's why when we discussed the budget last 1364 01:17:00,945 --> 01:17:04,387 year, the TDC initially funded Sunday service. 1365 01:17:04,387 --> 01:17:07,987 The TDC ceased funding Sunday service, 1366 01:17:11,507 --> 01:17:12,757 and the TPO sent us that bill. 1367 01:17:12,757 --> 01:17:15,477 They said we don't need Sunday service. 1368 01:17:15,477 --> 01:17:22,677 And then it appears that the TPO has budgeted in Sunday service, 1369 01:17:23,946 --> 01:17:28,746 and voted on and fully approved the process. 1370 01:17:29,670 --> 01:17:32,383 There's a gap between what we said we were going to fund, 1371 01:17:32,383 --> 01:17:36,757 and what the TPO including our members have voted. 1372 01:17:36,757 --> 01:17:40,957 I think we still have a motion? 1373 01:17:42,157 --> 01:17:45,222 We have a motion and a second on the table. 1374 01:17:45,222 --> 01:17:47,717 Is there any further discussion on this item? 1375 01:17:47,717 --> 01:17:53,307 >> I think it's great that the TDC is picking up going 1376 01:17:53,307 --> 01:17:54,150 in the next year. 1377 01:17:54,150 --> 01:17:56,610 And it's a major check out day for us. 1378 01:17:56,610 --> 01:17:59,100 We continue to grow. 1379 01:17:59,970 --> 01:18:01,294 People coming on Friday and leaving on Sunday. 1380 01:18:01,294 --> 01:18:04,527 So they get to the workforce on these places is important. 1381 01:18:04,527 --> 01:18:07,957 It hopefully keeps a lot more e-bikes off the road 1382 01:18:07,957 --> 01:18:10,541 and doing dangerous things and cutting across parking 1383 01:18:10,541 --> 01:18:12,577 lots in scooters and things. 1384 01:18:12,577 --> 01:18:17,450 I believe it's beneficial to get these things to and from work 1385 01:18:17,450 --> 01:18:17,642 safely. 1386 01:18:17,642 --> 01:18:20,627 And I believe TDC has a portion in paying that. 1387 01:18:20,627 --> 01:18:22,737 And they're going to step up and do that. 1388 01:18:22,737 --> 01:18:26,337 We've got great partners over there. 1389 01:18:31,109 --> 01:18:33,442 >> We have asked this of everyone that we give money to. 1390 01:18:33,442 --> 01:18:39,370 Mr. Hobbs coming and talking to us about the ridership. 1391 01:18:39,370 --> 01:18:41,370 >> Fantastic point. 1392 01:18:43,862 --> 01:18:46,708 >> I agree that we'll talk about that in the budget for next 1393 01:18:46,708 --> 01:18:46,831 year. 1394 01:18:46,831 --> 01:18:46,954 Absolutely. 1395 01:18:46,954 --> 01:18:48,700 Motion in a second. 1396 01:18:48,700 --> 01:18:50,700 Further discussion? 1397 01:18:50,917 --> 01:18:54,517 And the motion was to the 41000. 1398 01:18:58,341 --> 01:19:03,141 Just to be clear, the amended budget subsequently 1399 01:19:06,154 --> 01:19:08,554 amended to adopt the 41000. 1400 01:19:14,983 --> 01:19:17,383 Whatever the shortfall is. 1401 01:19:18,541 --> 01:19:19,333 Motion in a second. 1402 01:19:19,333 --> 01:19:21,733 Please call the roll. 1403 01:19:24,548 --> 01:19:31,148 [Roll call] We now move on to regular agenda item number 1404 01:19:33,437 --> 01:19:35,837 three, resolution number 26-134. 1405 01:19:37,367 --> 01:19:39,277 Mr. Davis. 1406 01:19:39,277 --> 01:19:41,957 >> Resolution establishing the budget for the City of Panama 1407 01:19:41,957 --> 01:19:46,757 City Beach Florida for the fiscal year 2026 and 2027, 1408 01:19:47,477 --> 01:19:50,370 appropriating revenues and providing an effective date. 1409 01:19:50,370 --> 01:19:53,637 Any public comment on this item? 1410 01:20:01,708 --> 01:20:02,375 >> Good morning. 1411 01:20:02,375 --> 01:20:02,380 My name is Jessica Graham. 1412 01:20:02,380 --> 01:20:04,437 I'm the executive director of the Saint Andrews, Saint Joseph 1413 01:20:04,437 --> 01:20:05,589 based estuary program. 1414 01:20:05,589 --> 01:20:07,317 I try to come in front of you every year 1415 01:20:07,317 --> 01:20:08,859 and give you an update of everything. 1416 01:20:08,859 --> 01:20:11,832 I just wanted to quickly update you on some of our projects 1417 01:20:11,832 --> 01:20:12,867 we have. 1418 01:20:12,867 --> 01:20:15,614 One of those is litter traps which 1419 01:20:15,614 --> 01:20:19,317 is cast basins that we install in stormwater drains that 1420 01:20:19,317 --> 01:20:21,970 capture organic and trash. 1421 01:20:21,970 --> 01:20:24,859 We have six of them installed near Aaron Bassett Park. 1422 01:20:24,859 --> 01:20:28,805 And in a year we have collected 260 pounds of debris 1423 01:20:28,805 --> 01:20:33,870 and kept that from draining into the adjacent lakes there. 1424 01:20:33,870 --> 01:20:36,570 Which eventually would turn into muck. 1425 01:20:36,570 --> 01:20:40,357 We have also captured one trap alone right 1426 01:20:40,357 --> 01:20:42,693 by that pond as captured 80 pounds. 1427 01:20:42,693 --> 01:20:46,337 We sometimes have to shovel the leaf litter out of the trap 1428 01:20:46,337 --> 01:20:47,272 because it's so thick. 1429 01:20:47,272 --> 01:20:50,453 We also capture a lot of trash from different events that 1430 01:20:50,453 --> 01:20:52,935 are there we are seeing a measurable impact 1431 01:20:52,935 --> 01:20:54,869 and I really want to give a shout out 1432 01:20:54,869 --> 01:20:56,383 to the Public Works staff. 1433 01:20:56,383 --> 01:20:57,468 They are fantastic. 1434 01:20:57,468 --> 01:20:59,362 They meet us out there and they do 1435 01:20:59,362 --> 01:21:02,365 all of the hard lifting and the traffic control. 1436 01:21:02,365 --> 01:21:05,877 We try to keep it as easy as possible on them. 1437 01:21:05,877 --> 01:21:09,274 They do a fantastic job and really appreciate their support. 1438 01:21:09,274 --> 01:21:12,303 We also have a couple of other projects 1439 01:21:12,303 --> 01:21:15,677 like a microbial source tracking project that will actually 1440 01:21:15,677 --> 01:21:19,677 look at what the source of the fecal coliform in the waterways. 1441 01:21:19,677 --> 01:21:24,757 You saw a lot of swim advisories last year. 1442 01:21:24,757 --> 01:21:27,703 Surprisingly this was swim advisories 1443 01:21:27,703 --> 01:21:29,543 during dry conditions. 1444 01:21:29,543 --> 01:21:31,357 Not wet conditions. 1445 01:21:31,357 --> 01:21:33,785 Understanding the source of that is important. 1446 01:21:33,785 --> 01:21:36,770 And we'll be doing that at all of those healthy beaches 1447 01:21:36,770 --> 01:21:37,917 locations in and around the city. 1448 01:21:37,917 --> 01:21:40,765 And another aspect that we're doing 1449 01:21:40,765 --> 01:21:43,577 is harmful algal bloom monitoring. 1450 01:21:43,577 --> 01:21:46,250 That is monitoring for red tide events. 1451 01:21:46,250 --> 01:21:49,117 We had a very large red tide event last year 1452 01:21:49,117 --> 01:21:50,645 that lasted into January. 1453 01:21:50,645 --> 01:21:54,197 We saw dolphin mortality from that. 1454 01:21:54,197 --> 01:21:56,621 Scallops are closed in Gulf County because of that. 1455 01:21:56,621 --> 01:22:02,210 The more we can get on top of it, 1456 01:22:02,421 --> 01:22:04,338 we can then work with Mote Marine Laboratories 1457 01:22:04,338 --> 01:22:05,300 to deploy technologies to actually kill the red tide 1458 01:22:05,300 --> 01:22:06,853 before it gets inshore ideally. 1459 01:22:06,853 --> 01:22:09,293 It's still in testing phase. 1460 01:22:09,293 --> 01:22:13,477 We have trained citizens on how to collect these samples. 1461 01:22:13,477 --> 01:22:15,637 And then we're analyzing the samples 1462 01:22:15,637 --> 01:22:18,221 to try to get on it earlier than later. 1463 01:22:18,221 --> 01:22:23,757 And just to put everything together for the estuary program 1464 01:22:23,757 --> 01:22:26,997 and what it contributes to economically, 1465 01:22:26,997 --> 01:22:30,597 we did an economic assessment in 2023. 1466 01:22:30,850 --> 01:22:33,457 The estuary just a half mile buffer 1467 01:22:33,457 --> 01:22:35,317 of both the beaches and the estuary 1468 01:22:35,317 --> 01:22:38,317 indirectly and directly contribute $9.7 billion 1469 01:22:38,547 --> 01:22:40,947 in total economic output. 1470 01:22:40,997 --> 01:22:43,970 It provides substantial economic returns. 1471 01:22:43,970 --> 01:22:47,627 Both safeguard natural resources as well as the tourism 1472 01:22:47,627 --> 01:22:49,893 and our community's way of life. 1473 01:22:49,893 --> 01:22:56,493 Thank you very much and I'm happy to answer any questions. 1474 01:22:57,366 --> 01:22:59,991 >> I'm going let public comment go through and then I have some 1475 01:22:59,991 --> 01:23:00,699 questions to ask. 1476 01:23:00,699 --> 01:23:04,299 Further public comment on resolution 26-134? 1477 01:23:11,224 --> 01:23:13,224 Seeing none. 1478 01:23:16,749 --> 01:23:20,949 Ms. Graham, I had a few questions. 1479 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,952 >> Yes, sir. 1480 01:23:30,952 --> 01:23:34,887 >> Ms. Graham, the city does very few contributions 1481 01:23:34,887 --> 01:23:37,877 to organizations, and we ask those who are requesting that 1482 01:23:37,877 --> 01:23:40,197 funding to submit the request before we have the budget 1483 01:23:40,197 --> 01:23:40,697 workshop. 1484 01:23:40,697 --> 01:23:42,921 We did not receive this request in time. 1485 01:23:42,921 --> 01:23:45,797 You have a member of the Estuary Committee on here 1486 01:23:45,797 --> 01:23:48,170 that was able to carve some time out. 1487 01:23:48,170 --> 01:23:50,357 Why weren't we able to receive the request in time? 1488 01:23:50,357 --> 01:23:55,910 >> I'm still getting used to the timing of the request. 1489 01:23:55,910 --> 01:23:58,577 We just started producing these requests to the cities last year 1490 01:23:58,577 --> 01:24:01,100 I was caught off guard when you guys started your budget 1491 01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:03,817 workshops in time to be able to get that request in. 1492 01:24:03,817 --> 01:24:07,370 But I'll be remedying that and getting it in sooner. 1493 01:24:07,370 --> 01:24:11,237 >> What is the amount of the request? 1494 01:24:12,561 --> 01:24:13,610 >> $20,000. 1495 01:24:13,610 --> 01:24:16,610 >> What are the other contributions, 1496 01:24:17,250 --> 01:24:18,817 we had gotten actual budgets on their side. 1497 01:24:18,817 --> 01:24:24,817 Would you be able to produce that in the future? 1498 01:24:27,567 --> 01:24:28,705 >> Yeah. 1499 01:24:28,705 --> 01:24:29,760 >> I notice on your policy board you have 12 voting members. 1500 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,543 40 members include Bay County Commission, Gulf County 1501 01:24:31,543 --> 01:24:35,743 Commission, Callaway, Lynnhaven, Mexico beach, Panama City, 1502 01:24:38,577 --> 01:24:44,577 Panama City beach, Parker port, Saint Joe Springfield and FSU. 1503 01:24:47,547 --> 01:24:52,347 Panama City, or any of those government entities, 1504 01:24:53,867 --> 01:24:55,117 do they provide contributions? 1505 01:24:55,117 --> 01:24:55,933 >> They do. 1506 01:24:55,933 --> 01:24:58,657 We had contributions from a few last year. 1507 01:24:58,657 --> 01:25:00,917 This year when we were exploring contributions 1508 01:25:00,917 --> 01:25:03,597 because of the upcoming November vote on the Texas. 1509 01:25:03,597 --> 01:25:05,837 The request hasn't gone into Bay County yet. 1510 01:25:05,837 --> 01:25:08,837 >> Essentially Springfield is contributing members. 1511 01:25:10,456 --> 01:25:12,623 And then we're considering here as Panama City Beach 1512 01:25:12,623 --> 01:25:14,373 would be the only two contributing members 1513 01:25:14,373 --> 01:25:16,373 from the municipality? 1514 01:25:16,757 --> 01:25:19,357 >> Last year we had Lynn Haven come on Mexico Beach, 1515 01:25:19,357 --> 01:25:21,757 Springfield, Panama City Beach. 1516 01:25:30,521 --> 01:25:31,271 >> So Panama City? 1517 01:25:31,271 --> 01:25:31,771 >> Not yet. 1518 01:25:31,771 --> 01:25:37,171 >> I noticed you highlighted your member from Panama City 1519 01:25:37,637 --> 01:25:40,230 on your most recent flier. 1520 01:25:40,230 --> 01:25:41,397 >> That's a board spotlight. 1521 01:25:41,397 --> 01:25:45,677 We've done that every month to try to show who's 1522 01:25:45,677 --> 01:25:47,397 behind the history program. 1523 01:25:47,397 --> 01:25:50,397 >> Any questions from the Council? 1524 01:25:53,530 --> 01:25:54,977 >> No questions. 1525 01:25:54,977 --> 01:25:58,577 I thank you for being here. 1526 01:26:00,396 --> 01:26:02,396 >> Thank you. 1527 01:26:07,140 --> 01:26:08,140 >> We had that tied out. 1528 01:26:08,140 --> 01:26:12,437 We have one resolution or two resolutions for this one? 1529 01:26:12,437 --> 01:26:14,837 >> We have one resolution. 1530 01:26:17,161 --> 01:26:19,369 We did include it in your discussion at the workshop. 1531 01:26:19,369 --> 01:26:21,369 It is included. 1532 01:26:23,397 --> 01:26:28,797 >> I think the estuary program is a great program 1533 01:26:28,949 --> 01:26:33,217 and it's a program like the other programs that we 1534 01:26:33,217 --> 01:26:34,597 contribute to. 1535 01:26:34,597 --> 01:26:38,817 They help a very broad range of people. 1536 01:26:38,817 --> 01:26:43,293 It's not like we're giving money to an HOA or something like that 1537 01:26:43,293 --> 01:26:45,141 that's very specific. 1538 01:26:45,141 --> 01:26:49,941 They help the entire area including Bay County. 1539 01:26:51,877 --> 01:26:57,877 For me, shame on them for those who don't help 1540 01:27:01,848 --> 01:27:03,560 contribute to these programs. 1541 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,256 But if my neighbor doesn't help somebody, 1542 01:27:12,491 --> 01:27:15,156 that doesn't mean I'm not going to. 1543 01:27:15,156 --> 01:27:22,356 Especially if it's a program that assists in such a broad way 1544 01:27:22,769 --> 01:27:26,647 and affects the area, especially environmentally or with helping 1545 01:27:26,647 --> 01:27:27,480 the elderly or kids. 1546 01:27:27,480 --> 01:27:31,557 I'm totally in favor of keeping this 20,000 in there 1547 01:27:31,557 --> 01:27:33,957 for the estuary program. 1548 01:27:39,677 --> 01:27:43,682 >> I'd like to hear from Council member Coburn about what her 1549 01:27:43,682 --> 01:27:44,224 thoughts are. 1550 01:27:44,224 --> 01:27:45,597 She serves on the Estuary Committee. 1551 01:27:45,597 --> 01:27:48,140 >> I think they do a lot of good work out there especially 1552 01:27:48,140 --> 01:27:50,514 monitoring the red tide because that's something that really 1553 01:27:50,514 --> 01:27:51,405 affects tourism here. 1554 01:27:51,405 --> 01:27:52,910 I remember when I first moved here 1555 01:27:52,910 --> 01:27:56,370 we had several years when the red tide was really bad it 1556 01:27:56,370 --> 01:27:57,917 was miserable for everyone. 1557 01:27:57,917 --> 01:28:01,900 Anything we can do to protect our waterways 1558 01:28:01,900 --> 01:28:05,530 and to decrease that and make sure that our waters are 1559 01:28:05,530 --> 01:28:06,477 safe for swimming. 1560 01:28:06,477 --> 01:28:08,237 I think it's really important. 1561 01:28:08,237 --> 01:28:10,397 The litter traps has been astounding. 1562 01:28:10,397 --> 01:28:15,770 We only have a few around the park over there. 1563 01:28:15,770 --> 01:28:18,957 We've kept a lot of debris in our waterways by using those. 1564 01:28:18,957 --> 01:28:22,402 I think they do good work. 1565 01:28:22,402 --> 01:28:25,617 I would really like to see us support them, 1566 01:28:25,617 --> 01:28:29,543 and pushing forward for our national designation 1567 01:28:29,543 --> 01:28:34,343 so that they can qualify for additional grants 1568 01:28:37,300 --> 01:28:39,397 that we currently can't qualify for. 1569 01:28:39,397 --> 01:28:42,546 Jessica has done a really good job of getting grants and moving 1570 01:28:42,546 --> 01:28:47,465 the projects along, but now money is getting much tighter 1571 01:28:47,465 --> 01:28:49,480 and you need that national designation 1572 01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:51,757 in order to qualify for some of the larger grants. 1573 01:28:51,757 --> 01:28:59,557 >> And what is it that we need to do to help with that? 1574 01:29:00,226 --> 01:29:02,101 >> Doctor Graham would have to speak to that. 1575 01:29:02,101 --> 01:29:08,101 >> We could follow up on >> Add it to an agenda. 1576 01:29:09,516 --> 01:29:10,704 >> Sounds good. 1577 01:29:10,704 --> 01:29:12,291 I think it's a great program. 1578 01:29:12,291 --> 01:29:13,463 I agree with the vice mayor that it does make sense to do 1579 01:29:13,463 --> 01:29:15,185 what's right, even if those don't. 1580 01:29:15,185 --> 01:29:20,585 I have a bit of a concern for cities 1581 01:29:23,177 --> 01:29:24,802 having voting seats on the policy board 1582 01:29:24,802 --> 01:29:27,202 without having any contribution. 1583 01:29:27,982 --> 01:29:31,950 On the TPO, we all do our contributions. 1584 01:29:31,950 --> 01:29:32,970 Why are there cities for other municipalities 1585 01:29:32,970 --> 01:29:35,290 and the policy board that are not contributing? 1586 01:29:35,290 --> 01:29:40,900 That's something I would ask you, Council member, 1587 01:29:43,177 --> 01:29:45,260 to take to your board and help us understand that. 1588 01:29:45,260 --> 01:29:47,745 I think we have talked more about the Estuary 1589 01:29:47,745 --> 01:29:49,769 Committee in the last five minutes 1590 01:29:49,769 --> 01:29:51,745 than we've ever talked about. 1591 01:29:51,745 --> 01:29:54,745 Thank you for coming up. 1592 01:29:59,175 --> 01:30:00,758 >> It looks like it's a great program. 1593 01:30:00,758 --> 01:30:01,000 Thank you for serving on it. 1594 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,375 I think the beach should probably 1595 01:30:02,375 --> 01:30:06,997 benefits the most than any other city in the county. 1596 01:30:06,997 --> 01:30:10,597 It's important to have beautiful beaches. 1597 01:30:15,997 --> 01:30:22,597 With that, I'll make a motion that we give Mrs Graham 1598 01:30:24,555 --> 01:30:27,555 or the estuary program the $20,000. 1599 01:30:30,769 --> 01:30:31,477 >> It's built in? 1600 01:30:31,477 --> 01:30:35,677 >> Just a motion to approve resolution 26-134. 1601 01:30:39,731 --> 01:30:41,564 >> We have a motion to approve and a second. 1602 01:30:41,564 --> 01:30:43,964 Please call the roll. 1603 01:30:47,926 --> 01:30:48,560 [Roll call] 1604 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,727 >> We now move on to regular agenda item number four 1605 01:30:50,727 --> 01:30:52,727 resolution 126-135. 1606 01:31:02,927 --> 01:31:04,927 >> RESOLUTION NO. 1607 01:31:06,196 --> 01:31:08,571 26-135, AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE PANAMA CITY COMMUNITY 1608 01:31:08,571 --> 01:31:08,579 REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING OCTOBER 1609 01:31:08,579 --> 01:31:08,587 1, 2025, AND ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 30, 2026; 1610 01:31:08,587 --> 01:31:08,595 ESTABLISHING BUDGET FOR THE PANAMA CITY BEACH COMMUNITY 1611 01:31:08,595 --> 01:31:11,120 REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING ON OCTOBER 1, 1612 01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,120 2026, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2027. 1613 01:31:25,437 --> 01:31:29,832 appropriate the use of funds shown there as stated and may be 1614 01:31:29,832 --> 01:31:33,477 necessary or deemed necessary to defray all expenses 1615 01:31:33,477 --> 01:31:37,257 and liabilities relating to the respective -- 1616 01:31:37,257 --> 01:31:40,857 >> Any public comment on this item? 1617 01:31:42,329 --> 01:31:44,329 Seeing none. 1618 01:31:46,501 --> 01:31:48,501 Mrs. Gibson, please. 1619 01:31:53,766 --> 01:32:00,296 >> This resolution is for the amended budget for the CRA fund 1620 01:32:00,296 --> 01:32:05,378 for 2026, as well as the proposed budget for the CRA fund 1621 01:32:05,378 --> 01:32:07,378 for 2027. 1622 01:32:08,838 --> 01:32:10,892 Each year, there's things that happen 1623 01:32:10,892 --> 01:32:12,309 that we have to adjust things that 1624 01:32:12,309 --> 01:32:12,706 happen that require adjustments for revenues and expenses. 1625 01:32:12,706 --> 01:32:15,237 Those amendments are in the 26 budget amendment 1626 01:32:15,237 --> 01:32:17,237 within the resolution. 1627 01:32:21,467 --> 01:32:23,550 Also, you have the proposed CRA budget 1628 01:32:23,550 --> 01:32:25,925 that we have prepared in accordance with Florida Statutes 1629 01:32:25,925 --> 01:32:29,127 section 163.387, which requires that we follow and use 1630 01:32:29,127 --> 01:32:31,527 the outlined redevelopment plan. 1631 01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,240 That's it. 1632 01:32:40,582 --> 01:32:41,768 >> Okay. 1633 01:32:41,768 --> 01:32:45,970 Thank you, Mrs. Gibson, this is the same process 1634 01:32:45,970 --> 01:32:51,697 we just went through for the general fund for the CRA. 1635 01:32:55,589 --> 01:32:57,446 >> Motion to approve. 1636 01:32:57,446 --> 01:32:59,279 >> We have a motion and a second to approve. 1637 01:32:59,279 --> 01:33:01,679 Please call the roll. 1638 01:33:04,790 --> 01:33:08,279 [Roll call] Regular agenda item number five. 1639 01:33:10,917 --> 01:33:12,917 Resolution 26157. 1640 01:33:15,635 --> 01:33:17,635 Mr. Davis. 1641 01:33:24,914 --> 01:33:26,845 >> RESOLUTION NO. 1642 01:33:26,845 --> 01:33:27,496 26-157, APPROVING A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE 1643 01:33:27,496 --> 01:33:27,504 FLORIDA, DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THE CREATION 1644 01:33:27,504 --> 01:33:30,400 OF WATERSHED MASTER PLAN; AND AUTHORIZING A BUDGET AMENDMENT 1645 01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,604 REFLECT THE RECEIPT OF THESE FUNDS. 1646 01:33:41,237 --> 01:33:44,237 >> Any public comment for resolution 26157? 1647 01:33:45,684 --> 01:33:49,884 Seeing none, Mr. Adaire, is this you? 1648 01:34:00,218 --> 01:34:02,196 This. 1649 01:34:02,196 --> 01:34:07,390 >> If you got a recall resolution 2619 in October 23rd 1650 01:34:07,390 --> 01:34:07,620 of 2025. 1651 01:34:07,620 --> 01:34:10,370 The city approved $473,000 for the preparation of the City 1652 01:34:10,370 --> 01:34:11,117 Stormwater Master Plan. 1653 01:34:11,117 --> 01:34:13,749 We still continue to search for funding for that project 1654 01:34:13,749 --> 01:34:16,333 and we were able to secure grant funding to help 1655 01:34:16,333 --> 01:34:18,117 recover some of that cost. 1656 01:34:18,117 --> 01:34:21,840 That's what's before you today. $300,000 to go towards that 1657 01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,840 project. 1658 01:34:24,397 --> 01:34:31,597 >> So this is to accept money -- where is the grant from? 1659 01:34:37,971 --> 01:34:40,371 >> HMGP Grant from FDEM. 1660 01:34:45,246 --> 01:34:47,246 >> Any questions? 1661 01:34:47,772 --> 01:34:49,519 Thank you. 1662 01:34:49,519 --> 01:34:51,519 Motion to approve? 1663 01:34:56,370 --> 01:34:58,370 Any discussion? 1664 01:34:58,373 --> 01:35:00,512 I'm sorry, I'm just following the rules. 1665 01:35:00,512 --> 01:35:01,887 I'm excited to accept this money. 1666 01:35:01,887 --> 01:35:04,287 Please call the roll. 1667 01:35:07,455 --> 01:35:09,997 [Roll call] We now move on to regular agenda item number six. 1668 01:35:09,997 --> 01:35:11,797 Resolution 26158. 1669 01:35:11,797 --> 01:35:13,797 Mr. Davis. 1670 01:35:23,814 --> 01:35:24,522 >> RESOLUTION NO. 1671 01:35:24,522 --> 01:35:24,529 26-158, APPROVING A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH DEPARTMENT 1672 01:35:24,529 --> 01:35:24,538 OF JUSTICE FOR FIVE BALLISTIC SHIELDS FOR THE DEPARTMENT; 1673 01:35:24,538 --> 01:35:26,746 AND AUTHORIZING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO REFLECT RECEIPT 1674 01:35:26,746 --> 01:35:29,746 AND APPROPRIATION OF THESE FUNDS. 1675 01:35:35,608 --> 01:35:37,498 >> Any public comment on this item? 1676 01:35:37,498 --> 01:35:39,498 Seeing none. 1677 01:35:41,268 --> 01:35:45,468 Chief Talamentes, help us understand this item. 1678 01:35:52,266 --> 01:35:58,266 >> Mayor, a while ago now we applied for a grant 1679 01:36:01,290 --> 01:36:03,623 of the Department of justice for five ballistic shields. 1680 01:36:03,623 --> 01:36:05,610 These plastic shoes are utilized for tactical operations, patrol 1681 01:36:05,610 --> 01:36:07,203 operations and just another piece of 1682 01:36:07,203 --> 01:36:08,877 to keep our guys safe out there on the street. 1683 01:36:08,877 --> 01:36:10,460 We have our notified a couple of weeks 1684 01:36:10,460 --> 01:36:13,763 ago that we're approved this would be a no cost to the city. 1685 01:36:13,763 --> 01:36:16,443 This is completely grant funded and a vital piece of equipment 1686 01:36:16,443 --> 01:36:17,877 for officer safety. 1687 01:36:17,877 --> 01:36:23,140 >> Thank you to everyone that works so hard at the police 1688 01:36:23,140 --> 01:36:24,556 department on procuring these grants. 1689 01:36:24,556 --> 01:36:29,956 >> We got to protect our officers and our citizens. 1690 01:36:30,112 --> 01:36:32,112 >> Motion to approve. 1691 01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:37,209 >> Second. 1692 01:36:37,209 --> 01:36:37,407 >> We have a motion to approve and a second. 1693 01:36:37,407 --> 01:36:38,949 Is there any discussion on this item? 1694 01:36:38,949 --> 01:36:40,949 Seeing none. 1695 01:36:44,806 --> 01:36:46,806 [Roll call] 1696 01:36:50,300 --> 01:36:51,780 we now move on to the city Manager report. 1697 01:36:51,780 --> 01:36:53,780 Mr. Whitman? 1698 01:36:59,200 --> 01:36:59,791 >> No report. 1699 01:36:59,791 --> 01:37:01,708 >> We now move on to the city attorney report. 1700 01:37:01,708 --> 01:37:03,708 >> No report. 1701 01:37:08,717 --> 01:37:10,717 >> Council comments. 1702 01:37:10,854 --> 01:37:11,530 >> And one thing that just hit me with the Laguna Beach thing 1703 01:37:11,530 --> 01:37:11,176 or whatever she's trying to put all together in the consolidated 1704 01:37:11,176 --> 01:37:14,177 format for these residents to be able to maybe fly or something 1705 01:37:14,177 --> 01:37:16,370 that the city can put together. 1706 01:37:16,370 --> 01:37:17,721 I don't know if that's doable. 1707 01:37:17,721 --> 01:37:20,920 But just something where it makes it simple and easy 1708 01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,500 that we can get it translated because I 1709 01:37:22,500 --> 01:37:23,633 know we had a lot of robust discussion 1710 01:37:23,633 --> 01:37:24,694 and we came up with this. 1711 01:37:24,694 --> 01:37:27,201 And it took a PhD up here to be able to make a motion 1712 01:37:27,201 --> 01:37:27,814 to approve it. 1713 01:37:27,814 --> 01:37:33,146 I'd like to see the city be able to put something together. 1714 01:37:33,146 --> 01:37:36,981 I know your team can do that. 1715 01:37:36,981 --> 01:37:40,421 >> Aaron and Mark can put something together and they 1716 01:37:40,421 --> 01:37:44,210 presented at one of their meetings. 1717 01:37:45,700 --> 01:37:47,931 >> Thank you so much. 1718 01:37:47,931 --> 01:37:49,678 >> Nothing from me. 1719 01:37:49,678 --> 01:37:50,803 Everyone is back to school. 1720 01:37:50,803 --> 01:37:52,928 I hope everyone is getting settled and enjoying it. 1721 01:37:52,928 --> 01:37:58,328 And also enjoy your Labor Day on the 7th. 1722 01:37:58,687 --> 01:38:01,620 Our next City Council meeting is Thursday September 10th. 1723 01:38:01,620 --> 01:38:01,562 5 p.m. 1724 01:38:01,562 --> 01:38:02,700 Here at City Hall. 1725 01:38:02,700 --> 01:38:05,100 Have a blessed day. 1726 01:38:09,340 --> 01:38:11,434 This meeting is adjourned.