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Is my mic on? There we go. Welcome to the Panama 
City Commission for August 25th. We're going to  

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start out with an opening prayer with Reverend 
Randy John, pastor of Heritage Bible Church,  

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followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led 
by Commissioner Brian Granger. Please rise.

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Good afternoon everyone. Let's pray. Actually, I 
was just noticing that threem minute timer. It's  

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good thing my church doesn't have one of those 
when I'm preaching. Yeah, making me nervous.  

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All right, let's pray. Father, we come before 
you with grateful hearts for all that you have  

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done. And Lord, we are reminded of your words 
in Psalm 117:E2 that great is your love for us  

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and the faithfulness of the Lord endures forever. 
Lord, we consider those principles as we pray this  

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this afternoon for the uh for the commission for 
the things that need to happen. We recognize that  

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government government was intended by you that it 
was ordained by you and that its purpose was to  

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administer justice and order and protection. 
And so I pray for your wisdom this morning  

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uh this afternoon Lord for each and every person 
here for the decisions that need to be made for  

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the things that need to be considered. Uh Lord 
we just ask that you would grant your wisdom and  

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your favor in all things and that all of this 
would recog would ultimately recognize your  

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sovereignty over the affairs of humankind. And we 
are reminded, Lord, that wisdom comes from you.  

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And so we ask for that in Jesus' name. Amen. 
Amen. Thank God. You'll join me in the pledge  

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of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of 
the United States of America and to the republic  

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for which it stands, one nation under God, 
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Please call the role. Mayor Branch present. 
Commissioner Street here. Commissioner Hughes  

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here. Commissioner Lucas will not be joining 
tonight. Commissioner Granger, present. Mayor, you  

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have a quorum. You've received the meeting minutes 
from August 11th. Do I have a motion to approve?  

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Second. Any discussion? Please call the role. 
Commissioner Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes.  

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Yes. Commissioner Granger. Yes. Mayor Branch. 
Yes. Motion passes four to zero. Any additions,  

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deletions, or modifications? Yes, sir. Staff has 
a couple. Uh, so item six, Bravo, uh, the first  

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and only public hearing for a proposed gateway 
overlay. Staff requested that be removed and  

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tabled until September 22nd. And then item 7A, the 
second and final two public hearings uh regarding  

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uh zoning designation of heavy industrial as well 
as item 10A regarding discussion of the city clerk  

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treasurer positions uh recommend that item uh 
7A and 10A be uh stricken uh without a date to  

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return. Okay. So removal of 6B, 7A and 7 and 10 
10 A 10. However, I want to clarify. Six Bravo has  

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the date certain to return September 22nd 10, but 
only six Bravo. Okay. Six. Okay. What was the date  

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on that? Uh September 22nd meeting. Did you catch 
all that? That was a lot. Let's go. All right.  

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I'll try again. 6B, 7, and 10. You correct. We're 
moving 6B, 7 A, and 10 A. However, 6B has a date  

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certain to return of 9:22. The other two does 
not. And you're strike. You want to strike the

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which item was that? We're striking 6B and 7A and 
10A and 10. 10 A, but 6B is going to be coming  

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back September 22nd. I will make a motion that we 
move item 6B to September 22nd and that we strike  

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uh 7A and 10A from this meeting. Correct. 
Second. Second. Discussion. Please call the RO.  

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Commissioner Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes, 
yes. Commissioner Granger, yes. Mayor Branch,  

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yes. Motion passes 4 to zero. All right. Uh, 
registration for the 2026 Youth Basketball League  

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has been extended through August 31st. Practices 
begin in early September and games start later in  

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the month. So, now is a great time to sign up. 
Scholarships are still available. For details,  

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please visit the front desk at the MLK Junior 
Rec Center. You can register by scanning the  

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QR code on the screen or by visiting the MLK 
Junior Rec Center page at panama city.gov.  

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The 2026 Panama City Christmas Parade 
will be held Saturday, December 5th,  

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at 6:00 p.m. in downtown Panama City, featuring 
this year's theme, Christmas Movies. Registration  

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to participate in the parade opens September 
1st, next Tuesday. Those interested in joining  

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the parade can visit panalcity.gov gov for 
registration details, the application link,  

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and more. All city offices will be closed in 
observance of Labor Day on Monday, September  

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7th. Normal garbage collection, the blue cans, 
will continue that day, and then regular office  

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operations for the city, will resume on Tuesday, 
September 8th. Due to the Labor Day holiday,  

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the September town hall and Monday morning 
with the manager dates will be rescheduled.  

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The town hall, typically held the first Saturday 
of the month, will take place now on Saturday,  

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September 12th. Monday morning with the manager, 
normally held on the first Monday of the month,  

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will be moved to Monday, September 14th. All times 
and locations remain unchanged. Budget hearings  

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for fiscal year 2027 will be held on September 8th 
and September 22nd, 2026 at 5:01 p.m. uh central  

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time here at the Bay County Government Center. 
Residents are encouraged to provide feedback and  

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may attend in person or watch the live stream 
online on our website. On September 11th, 2026  

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at 8:30 a.m., the city of Panama City will host a 
solemn 25th anniversary 911 memorial ceremony at  

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the Panama City Marina. Held in partnership with 
Bay County, the Bay County Sheriff's Office, and  

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Tendle Air Force Base. Their ceremony will honor 
the nearly 3,000 lives lost on September 11th,  

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2001, along with ceremonial tributes, including 
a presentation of colors, a moment of silence,  

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bell tolling, and a 21 gun salute. We invite 
you to join us as we come together to remember,  

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to honor, and to reflect. Business tax 
receipt renewals are now open for all  

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businesses operating within the city of Panama 
City, including storefronts, homebased businesses,  

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food trucks, and short-term rentals. Renewals are 
due by September 30th to avoid any late penalties  

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and potential code compliance action. 
Renewal notices are mailed each summer,  

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and businesses are encouraged to renew early. For 
more information or to renew, visit the business  

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services page at panalcity.gov gov or contact 
the business services division at 850691-4603.

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Panama City voters will have the opportunity 
to consider three proposed charter amendments  

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during the November 3rd, 2026 general 
election. The proposed amendments address  

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the city's government structure and elections, 
the administrative and operational provisions,  

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and updates to modernize the city charter and to 
maintain compliance with applicable state laws.  

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We have provided information and reference 
materials on our website at panalcity.gov to  

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help voters review the proposed changes and 
understand the questions that were appeal  

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appear on the ballot. All right. Uh, moving 
into public hearings, mayor, commissioners,  

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item 6A is the first and only public hearing on 
the approval of the proposed developer agreement  

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with Zachary Seymour for a property located at 101 
East 7th Street with partial ID 200075-0000-00.

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as background information. Uh, enclosing 
your packet is the proposed developers  

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agreement which outlines the terms between Zachary 
Seymour, the developer, the city of Panama City,  

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Florida, and the city of Panama City's Community 
Redevelopment Agency regarding the purchase and  

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renovation of the historic property at 101 East 
7th Street in Panama City, known to locals as the  

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Panama City Grammar School. The developer intends 
to purchase and redevelop the historic Panama  

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City Grammar School property, which has been in 
disrepair since Hurricane Michael, and transform  

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it into apartments and town homes to increase 
the tax base and to preserve its historic value.  

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The agreement requires that after closing, 
the developer must promptly repair critical  

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elements of the historic building such 
as the roof, the windows and doors,  

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bringing the property into compliance with 
city codes and the code enforcement order  

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and requiring completion of these mitigation 
efforts within one year of closing or the  

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issuance of the permits, whichever is later. 
A key provision of the agreement is to help  

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provide financial assistance to encourage the 
development. According to resolution 2020623.3,

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specifically section 32, settlement of leans 
on page 22 of the policy and procedures for  

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code enforcement. The city manager has the 
authority to settle a lean if it is in the  

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best interest of the city to help a respondent 
of a code enforcement order sell the property  

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to another responsible purchaser or to promote 
the economy in general. The agreement provides  

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that the city manager will wave the current 
incurred in fines totaling approximately $374,750

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and0 in exchange for a promisary note that will 
be forgiven after the developer complies with  

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the agreement. Without this financial assistance, 
it is unlikely that the developer could proceed  

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with the project. The agreement further allows 
a developer to apply for any CRA or other grants  

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available and promises an award of $100,000 under 
the current CRA grant programs. Note that this  

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agreement will have to be approved by the CRA 
board. The following documents are enclosed in  

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your agenda packet. The developer agreement, the 
location map, the proposed conceptual schematics  

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of the future project, and the promisary note. 
Uh staff recommendation through the director of  

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development services that the city commission 
conduct the first and only public hearing and  

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approve the agreement. Mr. Mayor, this is a public 
hearing. If you wish to speak about item 6A,  

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please come forward. Anyone want to speak 
about item 6A? Seeing none, I'm opposing public  

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comments. I will entertain a motion. Um motion 
to approve uh with the caveat that if the work  

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is not complete within one year comes back to the 
commission for discussion. I'll second just so we  

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can talk. Okay. Discussion. Let's go first. You'll 
have it. Well, now I thought we made some changes  

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to what was read and on what Jonathan read. We 
changed the timeline to a year without the on the  

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on the permits being initiated. There's a a way 
when you got to issue that, right? Change that.  

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What what we talked Let me give some background 
for the commission. Okay. Is that okay? Yes,  

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please. So, Commissioner Hughes uh did review 
it, had some comments, some questions. I reached  

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out to uh um Dee Rowan, the attorney for Zachary 
Seymour, and uh we discussed those. Would you like  

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me to talk about what you and I had talked about? 
Okay. So, one comment that Commissioner Hughes had  

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was uh concerning the uh timeline and just making 
sure it was clear who had to do what and that it  

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really was a year and it wasn't two years. Um so 
as as always when you look at things we can reward  

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it and so we rewarded it in a way where first it 
says that the project has to be completed within  

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um one year. Now in this agreement there was 
specific provisions that said that um for example  

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when the site plan review was submitted the city 
had 20 days to review it and u and some I think  

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there may have been one other day period u in that 
also our code has provisions that once you have a  

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completed application the city is to review it and 
uh and and process it. So, we added a section that  

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says that in the event um when I say we added it, 
I added it after talking to Commissioner Hughes  

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and uh Ms. Rowan, in the event the developer files 
a complete application is required above and and  

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if the city exceeds a time periods for the city's 
reviews, then the mitigation period of one year  

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shall be extended by the numbers of number of days 
in excess of the reviewed period. For example, if  

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the developer submits a completed application for 
a site plan and the city takes 25 days to respond  

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rather than the 20, then the mitigation period is 
extended by 5 days and that was acceptable to uh  

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Miss Rohan and I believe that that was consistent 
with the comments that Commissioner Hughes had  

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made on that topic. Yes. So, so Michael, your 
your department has to make sure they hit the  

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timelines and I wanted the city to have something 
that they had to do because we're asking the buyer  

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to do something as well. So, we all need to 
we all need to work together in that and it  

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keeps it moving along. So if if um taking uh the 
comment or the the motion where it would come back  

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certainly it would come back if we're and and we 
and that is part of the the emotion it would come  

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back if we're in violation or if the developer is 
in violation. Would you like me to talk about the  

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um um other grant? We struck a sentence about 
being able to apply for other grants. Okay.  

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There is a there was a sentence the developer 
may also apply for any other applicable grants  

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available in the CRA district where the 
development is located in CRA agrees that if  

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the criteria are met the developer shall receive 
the maximum award available. So rather than say  

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um say that statement that the developer may 
apply we uh Commissioner Hughes thought why not  

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just strike it because they can always apply. it 
is kind of redundant and Miss Rowan said that that  

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would be acceptable to her client. Then we also 
added uh that in that same section that further  

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the CRA agrees that the developer has applied 
for a redevelopment site preparation grant. Now  

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that is attached that application will be attached 
to your agenda for next week because it has been  

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submitted now and that hadn't been submitted a 
week ago when this was prepared. So it says that  

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the developer has applied for redevelopment site 
preparation grant and the CRA agrees that such  

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application meets the existing uh criteria for an 
RSSP grant award and the developer shall receive  

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uh a minimum of $100,000 toward the development 
provided. However, nothing herein shall obligate  

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the CRA or the city to award an amount greater 
than $100,000 pursuant to the RSP grant. Now,  

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that sentence Commissioner Hughes did not did 
did not u did not agree with and so that's why I  

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haven't passed anything out because we didn't have 
anything to really but that was also uh talked  

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about. So those were the the anyway commissioner 
those are the things that we talked about. I  

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just wanted to let you know we talked about Okay. 
Thank you. And the applicant's representation has  

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approved those changes. They're cool with them. 
They're you can the changes I think the question  

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is is the applicant okay with the changes that 
are read? Well, DD is coming up. My my request  

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for just coming back in a year was just really 
more for an update to ensure that we're following  

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the timeline. That's it. Cool. though. Yes, ma'am. 
It doesn't change the contract. Good afternoon.  

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My name is Dee Row and I'm here on behalf of the 
developer, Zach Seymour. Um the changes that Nevin  

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um and I discussed throughout the day. Yes. Uh 
the one uh last change that I had um asked for a  

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little tweak on um was the way it was presented, I 
don't know, an hour and a half, two hours ago, was  

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that the award shall be $100,000. And I did not 
want to box my client into only getting a thous or  

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$100,000 because in his site um redevelopment site 
application, the site preparation cost that he has  

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provided so far is $1.1 million. And the way that 
your grant application reads is that the developer  

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can get I think that the award will generally 
be $100,000 unless there's exceptional community  

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benefit. Now, you all still might stick to the 
$100,000 depending on what's in the budget, but  

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based on the 20% of the site preparation cost, he 
would be at $220,000. So, you guys can still stick  

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to the 100,000, but I didn't want to limit him to 
an agreement that said shall. So, other than that,  

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I'm fine with all the changes. Um, we went back 
and forth with several different iterations.  

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It's just that that one little piece. May versus 
shall. No. Uh, let's let me read that one sentence  

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and see if um I know Commissioner Hughes disagreed 
with the way or it didn't come out exactly what he  

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was thinking, but let me read it to you. The last 
sentence that we're talking about here is that  

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the CRA agrees that the developer has applied for 
redevelopment site preparation grant and the CRA  

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agrees that such application meets the existing 
criteria for an RSCP grant award. So, so far  

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I think we're all in pretty much agreement. And 
then it says, "And the developer shall receive,  

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and you requested, a minimum of $100,000 towards 
the development." And then I added, "Provided,  

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however, nothing herein shall obligate the CRA or 
the city to award an amount greater than $100,000  

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pursuant to the RSCP grant application. Is that 
acceptable?" Yes, that's fine. I think the version  

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I saw before that it had the developer shall 
receive $100,000 and that's when I had asked  

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for the minimum of $100,000 language. There's just 
been some last minute revisions back and forth and  

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um I think that's why we weren't ready to present 
it to the full commission today. Then we we also  

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I'm up for bringing it back. Bring it back. 
Most there's three players in this. A buyer,  

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CRA, and the city. And what we're doing today 
is trying to get something done and then it has  

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to go to the CRA. They're the final approval. I 
don't It bothers me that we're everybody in here  

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that has something in the CRA can apply for this 
brand. We're not going to spell out what they're  

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going to get. they're going to apply follow the 
criteria, but for whatever reason, we're spelling  

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out what that what this applicant can receive 
that's already in writing and approved. Um,  

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and it's what's going to happen is somebody reads 
it, going to see $100,000. I'm going to see all  

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the other parts of it and then we're going to 
line up. It ain't$100, I need 100. That's my  

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concern. If they all have properties that are 
in this disrepair that are on Harrison Avenue,  

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then let them line up. Well, I get it. I get it. 
But they he there's no special there's no special  

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uh favor given this guy. Everybody that has 
property, not CRA, qualifies for this to make  

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an application under this demo grant. Y is that 
that's correct? Right. Yes. I don't have any  

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objections with any other changes. Anyone else 
have I don't I mean I I had two quick comments I  

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I hadn't gotten through. Um we know they're quick. 
Oh, they'll be I'll try to You had a comment,  

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Commissioner Hughes, about impact fees, and so 
this was changed. It says, "The city agrees to  

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work with the developer in good faith to 
identify rebate or refund opportunities  

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for impact fees." And then it was added provided 
such opportunity is available to other similar  

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projects. So no objection to that being treated 
like everybody else. And then finally to to the  

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point that Commissioner Hughes had made that 
people we need to make it clear or not that it's  

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not clear but make the point that all that there 
are three parties and so we added a sentence at  

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the end that just says this agreement shall not 
be effective unless until it is executed by all  

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parties CRA city commission and the applicant. So, 
what I'm what I'm hearing is that we're basically  

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saying that yes, we're willing to do an award 
of at least $100,000, but the applicant may may  

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put in and request more because of the math of the 
program that we're running under the CRA. So, it's  

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not that this this applicant is receiving anything 
outside of the the the current program that we're  

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we're running in the CRA um other than just a 
a guarantee that they'll get at least $100,000.  

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I don't find that in I'm okay with that. I'm told 
that it is um everybody has an opportunity and  

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we're just restating it or is it and making it a 
guarantee? Well, as long as you meet the criteria,  

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it's a guarantee, right? Is that your motion? 
You want It's not my motion. It's his motion.  

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You know, I I think the the only thing I'll add 
is regardless of what the language says or isn't,  

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even if we were committing $100,000 to 
save a historic building, I think that's  

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far exceeding the value of what this developer 
is is committing to do over the next year. So,  

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I wish Mr. Seymour a fantastic um venture. Uh 
we're rooting for you. The community is rooting  

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for you. Uh we're glad to have your investment 
in the community. And so, um, just thank you for  

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picking up where somebody couldn't get it across 
the finish line. So, um, appreciate you picking  

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up the ball. And let me say, I want this project 
to happen. My job as long as all all of ours is  

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to protect the city. And what matters is what's 
inside the four corners of that contract. And all  

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I'm trying to do is tighten it up so we don't have 
any issues coming back. That's all my goal is,  

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not to kill it, not to make it go away. So, and he 
hired a good lawyer to make sure that happens. So,  

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thank you. Yeah. New motion. Were you are you okay 
with the changes that I highlighted? That's what  

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you presented originally. Plus, you wanted a year 
update things that I spelled. Yeah. As long as to  

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me there were tweaks to what was here's and my 
my hope is city is quick about getting permits,  

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developers quick about getting a roof and windows 
and all those things on. And the next update a  

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year from now is just, hey, look how amazing it 
looks and they're on to their project. That's  

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really what my hope is. Um, I just don't want 
to get down a process that we're dealing with  

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something 8 years after the aftermath and 
we're still trying to deal with it. So,  

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um, with that, I'll amend to include the 
changes presented by the city attorney and,  

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uh, add the addition of just, um, bringing it 
back to us a year from now for an update. Perfect.  

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I have a second. Second. Any discussion? I I'll 
just add that, uh, Mr. Fuller and Mr. Massie have  

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already started doing some preliminary paperwork 
in anticipation of the closing, so we are teed up  

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and ready to rock and roll. Love it. All right. 
Yeah. The closing is scheduled for September 9th.  

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Hopefully, we can bring it in for a landing on 
that date. This will be back next week. Yes. And  

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we'll be back before the CRA, you'll have the full 
application that shows what the site plans are and  

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site cost and those those items. Please express to 
um to your client that when they get their plans  

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and everything else together, we would love to be 
a part of just announcing to the community what  

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exactly is happening with this historic property. 
Sure. Absolutely. Thank you all. Thank you.  

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Please call the role. Commissioner Street, yes. 
Commissioner Hughes, yes. Commissioner Granger,  

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yes. Mayor Branch, yes. Motion passes 4 to zero. 
Item 6B was tabled to September 22nd, moving  

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into item 6 C, which is the first of two public 
hearings on ordinance number 3314, an ordinance  

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amending ordinance 3305 regarding the Panama 
City North Community Development District to  

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correct a scrier's error in the legal description. 
background information. SE Land Development LLC on  

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behalf of the property owner petitioned the city 
to establish a community development district or  

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a CDD pursuant to chapter 190 of Florida statutes. 
Ordinance 3305 was adopted by the city commission  

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on June 9th of last year. Ordinance number 3314 
is now proposed to correct a scrier's error in  

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the legal description. The CDD encompasses the 
12,200 acre uh property owned by CBD Holdings LLC,  

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also known as the Shelton property. The subject 
property has a future land use designation of  

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urban community in the city's comp plan and is 
zoned planned unit development. The PUD specifies  

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approximately 1,800 residential dwelling units 
and up to 450,000 square ft of non-residential  

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use or mixeduse space. A CDD is defined as a 
special purpose local government that finances,  

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builds, and maintains infrastructure and 
amenities in planned communities. Essentially,  

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a CDD is a special taxing district which allows a 
developer to fund roads, water, sewer, storm water  

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management facilities, parks, and other community 
amenities. A CDD is governed by the board of  

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supervisors elected by the land owners of the CDD. 
The initial board is a developer/landowner and  

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eventually there is a turnover to the subsequent 
home purchasers. A CDD has the authority to levy  

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non-advelor assessments that appear on property 
tax bills separate from regular property taxes.  

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A CDD consists typically or sorry CDD cost rather 
typically include debt service to repay bonds to  

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issue uh issued to fund initial infrastructure 
construction and ongoing operations and  

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maintenance cost of the infrastructure. Following 
items are enclosed in your agenda packet.  

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Ordinance 3314, the adopted map series, including 
aerial, future land use, and zoning maps. Staff  

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recommendation through the director of development 
services is that the city commission conduct the  

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first of two public hearings. Mr. Mayor, this 
is a public hearing. If you wish to speak about  

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item 6C, please come forward. Anyone here to speak 
about 6C? Seeing none, I closing public comments.  

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like to read. Ordinance 3314, an ordinance of 
board of city commissioners of Panama City,  

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Florida, a mending ordinance number 3305 
regarding the Panama City North Community  

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Development District to correct a scrib's error 
in exhibit A there too, providing for severability  

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and providing for an effective date. Mr. Mayor, 
item 7A from quazidual hearings was removed.  

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We're now into audience participation. Yeah, this 
is audience participation. Um, this is where you  

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get to come forward and speak about any item 
related to the agenda today with the exception  

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of 12A. I'm going to open up public comments just 
for that particular agenda item. So, if you want  

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to come forward and talk about anything related 
to the agenda except for 12A, please come forward  

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and just let us know what you're speaking about. 
Maybe you may want to tell them what 12 is. Oh,  

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12A is the marina construction bids. 
Yes, sir. Come on down, Mr. Derek.

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Hey, Derek Thomas, 1100 West 10th Street. Um 
12D, the uh $445,000 for design of the Frankfurt  

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walkway. I wanted to find out if there's anything 
going on under the ground that's uh would explain  

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why that's so so much. It's basically a straight 
road, straight sidewalk next to a straight road.  

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425,000 seems like a lot. Is there any uh 10-in 
water man going down at the same time underneath  

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there? Is there any changes going on underneath 
where they're putting the multi-purpose walkway?

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Is that the final question? That that question 
is for the design of it is the part of the design  

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designing putting in plumbing underneath the the 
walkway. Yeah. We'll answer all the questions once  

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you're done. Is that the final is that your final 
question? Well, okay. Did you put it down? The  

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uh the and then the uh the wet slips 11a the uh 
they're going to put up $5 million. I think that's  

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great to get it kickarted. Um, but they're going 
to take that and and they're paying up in advance  

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their land fees, their rent, right? And then last 
year their rent was like $11,000. So how much is  

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So that's what I mean. Is it going to be also 
their their taxes, the the amount that they pay  

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in in property taxes? Is it going to be the amount 
they pay in in merchant fees? All of their any  

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money that they make at all down there. All of it 
paid up to get to that. that item but we're taking  

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your questions and we got them. Okay. Well, that 
is that if you understand what my question is,  

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where's the where's the money coming to over 
time to come up with that with that 5 million?  

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And if at the end of 50 years they haven't used up 
their 5 million yet, do they get a refund for it?  

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Because the uh it seems like that's uh that's a 
lot of money and I'm really grateful that they're  

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putting that up. But what exactly are they paying 
and moving forward? What are they designing into  

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it with the the plumbing? And if you're going 
to open that up later for public comment, I'll  

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I'll be happy to hear that. Um, also 9F, I've had 
our construction. They did the the metal roof on  

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my house and I was not at all happy with the job 
that they did. So, if you look at the particular  

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materials that they use and make sure you don't 
use the cheapest screws that they sell and stuff,  

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that'd be great for all Thank you. Anyone else 
want to come forward and speak today? Yes,  

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ma'am. Come on down. Let's make sure we have those 
questions to it so we get answered. Mr. Mayor,  

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uh Patty, Sunday 11:15. If I make a comment now, 
can I still come back for 12A? Oh, yeah. Okay.  

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Thank you. So, my comment on this one is for the 
proposed budget. Um I still am wondering about  

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the long-term debt and the detail is what of what 
is comprised in that. Hi. Um, and wanting to know  

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and understand that as part of the proposed budget 
and what the interest payment will be and what we  

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spend it on helps me as a taxpayer think clearly 
or maybe more clearly or understand the need  

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for item 12A because to me they're both related, 
right? If we're looking for creative things. So,  

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I think this is the third time that I've asked 
and it probably takes a little while for what is  

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the detail of the long-term debt and what 
did we spend it on. Thank you. Thank you.  

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Anyone else want to speak today? Yes, ma'am. 
Come on down. Good afternoon. Good afternoon.

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Brenda Lewis Williams, 2748 Drive, 32401. 
I I have a 9E and 9F. 9D is included,  

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but it's not clear even on the agenda that was 
sent out that we're permitting. Somebody went  

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back and read the city ordinances. I guess you all 
got tired of hearing me talk about change orders,  

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but is this 10% that is being permitted? Should a 
change order be uh needed? And the wording in the  

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um ordinance is cumulative. So is this they can 
only ask for 10% or they can they get the 10%  

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and come back to the to the uh commission for 
additional monies if the 10% doesn't satisfy.  

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And that was on which item pardon which 
item was that? 9E and 9F 9. Okay. Gotcha.  

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the city the city the ordinance the city ordinance 
does allow for the city manager to automatically  

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do 10% if necessary and the word cumulative means 
once you get there that's all it is but can they  

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come back and ask for additional funds once 
they get that 10%. Still doing change orders.  

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Yes ma'am. Anyone else want to speak today relate 
to anything to on the agenda on the agenda except  

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of 12A? Yes, sir. Good afternoon. My name is 
Will Owen, 6701 Yach Club Drive in Callaway. Um,  

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this was referring to 11 uh for you uh Mr. 
Zimmerman. It's not so much a question,  

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it's a comment, so I don't know if that's um 
what we're doing here. It's my first time doing  

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this. So, I'll read from my notes here. Um, 
mayor, commissioners, and fellow residents of  

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Panama City, my name is Will Owen. I'm a local 
business owner and the organizer of Jetet,  

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the world's largest jetbo gathering. Jetet 
is an annual event hosted near the marina at  

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Hotel Indigo. Every year, Jetet brings nearly $1 
million in direct economic impact to Bay County.  

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For nearly eight years since Hurricane Michael, 
the marina has sat largely unusable. And that  

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isn't just an eyesore. It represents millions of 
dollars in lost tax revenue, suppressed growth,  

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and missed opportunities for downtown Panama City. 
The mayor raised fair questions in his comments  

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on Facebook the other day uh about city gains, 
losses, and gives what we give up in financing  

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discussions. I'm here today to provide perspective 
from the front line on what our citizens and local  

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businesses gain when we finally get boats back 
in the water. Every year, the number one point  

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of friction for my guests during Jetet uh is the 
lack of inwater boat parking and an easy launch  

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and recovery access for the boats. If this marina 
is restored with ample transient slips, overnight  

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docking, and efficient ramp capacity, events like 
mine can easily double the economic footprint,  

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which is again, it's about a million dollars a 
year. More importantly, Bay County is full of  

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boers who are looking for places to take their 
boats. And right now, there's no place in our  

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county where someone can dock, step off the pier, 
and immediately walk to local restaurants, shops,  

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lifestyle events, hotels. Boers are in a fluent 
demographic, and when they tie up at a marina,  

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they don't just buy fuel. They eat, 
they shop, they stay in local hotels,  

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and they keep downtown businesses thriving year 
round. Regardless of who's behind the development,  

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good development is good for everyone. We're 
fortunate to have exceptional developers like St.  

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Joe, who care about creating communities that are 
thoughtfully planned, sustainable, and ultimately  

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make the area a better place to live, work, and 
play. I think that is what sets St. Joe apart from  

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other developers. They genuinely care about the 
long-term success of communities they build and  

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the quality of life they create for the people who 
call them home. I know the leadership at St. Joe.  

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I've stayed in their hotels. I've eaten in their 
restaurants. I've swam in their pools. And I can  

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tell you that everything St. Joe does is done with 
excellence. their staff, the planning and design,  

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and the execution and management is worldclass. 
I believe we are fortunate to have such a  

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world-class organization offering to help shape 
the future of downtown Panama City, especially  

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with this loan. Uh I believe we have a great 
opportunity before us that is going to outlast all  

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of us. As residents of Panama City, Florida, we 
enjoy something that only 94% of other US cities  

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do not. We are blessed with the to be situated on 
navigable coastal waters and not just any waters,  

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the most beautiful in the whole world. I believe 
we should lean into this uniqueness. I believe  

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we should invite everyone to come see the beauty 
that we can at times take for granted. Let's work  

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with St. Joe to get this project moving. And when 
we join forces to bring this marina back to life,  

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downtown Panama City won't just recover, it will 
thrive for generations to come. Thank you. Yes,  

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sir. Thank you. We love Jetboat. I actually 
had a friend come all the way from South  

355
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Florida with his jet boats. We had one come from 
Washington State. Love it. I love it. Awesome.  

356
00:40:48,960 --> 00:41:06,480
Anyone else want to speak today related to 
the agenda items? Yes, sir. Come on down.

357
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:14,240
George Kather 1702, excuse me, Westby tribe. I'd 
like to um bring up a question on 9D for Baker  

358
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:21,680
Court. Uh it was unclear to me as to where the 
$181,000 is coming from. Uh is it coming from the  

359
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:29,440
same type of fan financing that that generated the 
original? So I was curious about that. Secondly,  

360
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,960
um there was a note that said that originally 
it was this was part of the West Beach Drive  

361
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:42,400
sidewalk improvement project. Um there was a 
uh in the design there was a proposal to go  

362
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:50,080
down Farland with an 8 in water line and bury it 
underneath uh West Beach Drive. This I understand  

363
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:55,680
is going to be a storm sewer which was not 
mentioned in the original West Beach Drive  

364
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:03,280
plans and uh I understand it's going to need 
to be uh have a have the beach drive cut up  

365
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:10,160
uh to be laid down properly. I I gather 
that requires an okay through the state  

366
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,600
uh to district to break up their brand 
new pay road. I don't know. That was  

367
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:29,360
uh my question. Uh I also have a question on 
12D uh which is the uh Frankfurt uh trail. Um,  

368
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,160
does it it says here that this is a state 
funded project, but I was wondering if this is  

369
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really a TPO project, uh, which also does also 
would involve some federal funds as well. So,  

370
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:52,000
thank you. Awesome. Anyone else want to 
speak to that? Yes, sir. Come on down.

371
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:04,320
My name's Norvin Tibido, 206 North MacArthur 
Avenue. First of all, we've had three ways to pay  

372
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:11,520
for the city of Marina to get rebuilt. We had uh 
back in 2019, right after the hurricane year after  

373
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:20,320
the hurricane, we had an NRDA grant that would 
redo the boat ramp and the pier that they were  

374
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:29,280
talking about building out there. Then after the 
hurricane, they uh we turned down that money. The  

375
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,440
uh the mayor then he he he sent him a letter 
telling that he did not want the money that  

376
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uh to put it somewhere else. But he also said that 
we could take and and uh revisit that anytime we  

377
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:45,280
wanted. But anyway, that was back then. Then 
another way we had to rebuild the marina was  

378
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:51,440
we had the FEMA money. We turned that down. 
That would have built the slips 95%. We turned  

379
00:43:51,440 --> 00:44:00,240
it down. So here we are. Then we had $15 million 
that we rescheduled to go to the Martin Theater,  

380
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which that's great. I love the Martin Theater. 
I I'll never go there cuz it's going to cost too  

381
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:10,480
much money for a ticket. But anyway, there was $15 
million. Now we have $5 million that you talked  

382
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:17,040
about at I think the last meeting. We was going to 
put that in the 50 slips. Now we're talking again  

383
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:23,040
about St. Joe going to give us $5 million with 
uh with strings attached. That's what I don't  

384
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:29,920
like is the strings that are attached. Uh they're 
talking about the Uplands having say so under that  

385
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:35,840
which in my opinion the Uplands ought not even 
be uh built on. We don't need no hotel there. We  

386
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,560
don't need apartments up there. We could build 
a nice green space, a nice little amphitheater  

387
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,680
around there. Have nice parking for everybody 
to go and enjoy. Y'all got to consider that a  

388
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:52,000
lot of people in this town don't make a whole lot 
of money. I think $37,000 is the mean income. So,  

389
00:44:52,000 --> 00:45:00,080
uh, when you I I think you need to go on with 
your idea of of phases. Take the $5 million,  

390
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,040
put it on the on the slips for the 50, uh, 
boat slips, and then see how that goes,  

391
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,360
and then go into something else. I know y'all 
are in a hurry to get this done, but well,  

392
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,880
we was in a hurry to get it done, too. We could 
have already had it done if we' used that FEMA  

393
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:18,320
money to put it back Marina back like it was, 
and then we could rebuild off of that. Uh,  

394
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:34,000
but anyway, thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you. 
Anyone else want to speak to that? Yes, sir.

395
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:44,080
9D. I just have a question. I wonder 
why uh why did the city tennis main  

396
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:50,320
tennis main line for 614 may probably 
knew? Y'all should knew it by heart.  

397
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:59,440
She knows. I just wonder why the city even messed 
with it. That that water man on Baker's Court.  

398
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:11,280
Never had a problem with it. I don't I don't 
think that line is I don't think it's a cast iron.

399
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:20,320
It's two different two different lines. I I think 
y'all should have went Beach Drive first. Did what  

400
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:26,240
y'all should have done there with the problem 
they have on Beach Drive itself. I just wonder  

401
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:35,520
why y'all money could have been saved, not 
just on Baker's Court. Uh y'all had talked  

402
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,400
and listened to somebody. Money could have been 
saved in this whole city. Y'all got brand new  

403
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:47,920
water lines already in this city. Not nobody 
own it, but we're we're paying paying money  

404
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:56,240
on something that we already have. Thank you. 
Anyone else want to speak tonight? Seeing none,  

405
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:01,520
I'm closing public comments. And before we approve 
the consent agenda, Johnson, there was a couple  

406
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,640
questions I want to get answered. Miss Lams had 
a question on 9E and 9 F about change orders and  

407
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:13,280
10% cumulative stuff. Yeah. So referencing 9E 
for the uh invitation to bid for Project Storm  

408
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,320
Group I to Marshall Brothers. Uh M Williams is 
correct. That was an error by staff. I already  

409
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:25,440
have the authority to go up to 100,000. Uh I think 
they just did 5% instead of 10%. Which would be  

410
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:31,680
120,000. A little bit over my approval, but uh 
I'm fine. Just it doesn't there's no reason to  

411
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:38,240
go to 122 or 120. I it's it's fine. But yes, that 
was just an error. They did 5% instead of 10%.  

412
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:45,120
And then uh in regards to let's see what else 
I wrote notes on the other consent item 10D uh  

413
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:53,680
funding mechanism fail which one I'm sorry I'm 
going to pull 9F off. So question 9D 9 delta.  

414
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Yes. Okay. Yeah. So that will be uh that'll 
have to come out of infrastructure cert. So,  

415
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,800
um, the original Beach Drive, uh, sidewalk 
proposal, we were going to create kind of like  

416
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,760
an enhanced crosswalk right there at the very 
west end of Beach Drive to safely get over and  

417
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,640
then come up that east side of Frankfurt Avenue 
and then create some parking right there. Um,  

418
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,280
because that project's been delayed. Um, and now 
we're rocking and rolling with uh, the Baker Court  

419
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:23,200
project. Uh, we're pulling that uh, back in. It 
is part of that project. Um, our goal was to you,  

420
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:28,320
you know, hopefully utilize a grant, uh, from 
the state to accomplish some of this. It needed  

421
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,880
to be done anyway. Uh, and it would have been 
part of the original project, you know, had we,  

422
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,760
um, you know, uh, not even had the opportunity 
for that grant. Um, and just as a reminder,  

423
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,800
as a state revolving fund project, they don't, 
it doesn't really cover any storm water unless  

424
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:49,280
there is a direct conflict with a water or sewer 
line. uh therefore uh it is not covered in the  

425
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,520
bulk of the project which is covered by the state 
revolving fund. So that's why so there are some  

426
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:59,520
some storm water upgrades more on the west end uh 
of the property uh of the project rather as you  

427
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:05,760
get to Frankfurt Avenue uh and then uh and again 
it'll be some parking as well. So can you explain  

428
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,960
the state revolving fund how the money comes out 
and what we have to pay back? Yeah, so uh the  

429
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,360
state revolving fund is actually a really great 
program if you're not aware of it. It's uh from  

430
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:21,040
the EPA administered through the state department 
of environmental protection. Uh it's a it's a it's  

431
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:27,360
a loan. Uh and what they do is they kind of handle 
the the prepayment for us, which is awesome. Uh  

432
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,160
and you know, in the case that it takes a little 
bit longer for them to process anything. Uh we can  

433
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,640
kind of fill in the gap uh with our utility fund, 
but they've been really great at uh reimbursing  

434
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:44,400
us, often less than 90 days. But the beauty of it 
for the city of Panama City is it's a 0% loan. Uh  

435
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:50,960
immediately upon the completion of the project, 
the state forgives 25% of it. Uh and we've already  

436
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:57,520
done probably 80 or $90 million worth of projects 
and we haven't paid one penny yet. Uh the first  

437
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,480
payment is deferred. I think we're looking at 
uh next spring, early summer before the first  

438
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:09,040
payment is due. So delayed first payment, 25% 
reduction right off the top of the entire loan,  

439
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:14,480
and then a 0% interest to pay that loan back. So 
again, it's a it's a program from the EPA through  

440
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,240
the Department of Environmental Protection 
at the state level in order to help smaller  

441
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:24,480
and medium-sized cities rebuild both their water 
uh and sewer lines uh and repair any roads that  

442
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:31,520
have to be redone in order to repair those water 
and sewer lines. Awesome. Um moving on to consent  

443
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,080
agenda. Yep. I'd like to pull item 9F off, Mr. 
Mayor, Commissioners, please. Okay. I do have a  

444
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:44,560
motion to accept everything except for 9F. Motion 
to approve 9A through 9E. Second. Any discussion?  

445
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:49,440
Please call the RO. Commissioner Street. Yes. 
Commissioner Hughes, yes. Commissioner Granger,  

446
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:56,240
yes. Mayor Branch, yes. Motion passes 4 to 
zero. Item 9F is consideration of approval for  

447
00:50:56,240 --> 00:51:05,920
award of bid PC26-023 for the Trudedale Clubhouse 
exterior renovations in the amount of $498,79747

448
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:11,040
to Arc Construction of Northwest Florida LLC. an 
approval to enter into the attached contract and  

449
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,480
authorize the city manager to sign any 
and all documents necessary to complete  

450
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:23,360
the contract and the project and approval of a 
10% project budget contingency of $49,879.75.

451
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,280
as background information and ITB or invitation 
to bid was advertised by the city on June 8th of  

452
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:35,040
this year to secure competitive bids for the 
CDBGDR which is community development block  

453
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,360
grant disaster recovery funded through the 
department of housing and urban development  

454
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:45,120
which is called locally the TREL clubhouse 
exterior renovations. Five bids were received  

455
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:51,600
uh by city staff on July 31st of 2026. The lowest 
responsive bid was submitted by R Construction of  

456
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:59,920
Northwest Florida LLC in the amount of $498,797 
and47. This project includes but is not limited  

457
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,640
to exterior facade improvements, additions 
of outdoor gathering spaces to the southern  

458
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:10,080
and western sides of the building, HVAC additions, 
and limited electrical additions and improvements.  

459
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:15,200
The following documents are enclosed with 
this agenda item. the tabulation of bids,  

460
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,280
proposed car uh contract with Art 
Construction of Northwest Florida LLC,  

461
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,200
and then a letter of recommendation 
from Florida Architects Incorporated,  

462
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:29,600
uh the designer of this project. Staff recommends 
awarding invitation to bid PC26 Desi Route 23  

463
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:38,400
to Arc Construction of Northwest Florida LLC and 
executing a contract in the amount of $498,79747

464
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,880
and approval of a 10% contingency in the amount of  

465
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:50,320
$49,879.75 for a total budgeted 
project cost of $548,67722.

466
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,280
Mr. Mr. Mayor, commissioners, the 
reason I pulled this item off consent  

467
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,280
uh is I do want to notify both the public 
and this board that there will be a contract  

468
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:03,120
revision that was agreed to uh by city staff 
and the contractor and that is the substantial  

469
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:10,560
completion date will be Jan January 31st of 
2027. So substantial completion they have  

470
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:17,440
committed to January 31st of 2027. So with 
that u Mr. Mayor would uh recommend approval  

471
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:24,480
um uh by the commission. Motion to approve 
of those changes. Second. Any discussion? No.  

472
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,280
Excited to see this project move forward. This 
is a big deal. Love it. Huge. I just want to say  

473
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,040
thank you to the contractor for committing 
to uh to wrap up no later than January  

474
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:45,440
31st. Please call. Commissioner Street. Yes. 
Commissioner Hughes has stepped out. There he is.

475
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Uh Commissioner Granger.

476
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:58,240
How does that work? I don't I believe 
Commissioner Hughes. Commissioner Hughes.  

477
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:08,160
Yes. Commissioner Granger. Okay. Yes. Mayor 
Branch. Yes. Motion passes four to zero.

478
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:14,000
All right. Um moving into item 11 A is the 
consideration of alternative financing option for  

479
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,320
the construction of the wet slips at the downtown 
Panama City Marina. As background information,  

480
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:23,760
the city of Panama City solicited bids for the 
construction of the first 50 wet slips for the  

481
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:30,160
downtown marine on April 13th of this year. On 
June 24th of 2026, 14 bids were received. Approval  

482
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:35,280
to award this contract is covered later in this 
agenda on item 12A under city manager section  

483
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,160
uh here this evening. Truest Bank has already 
approved the city using a portion of its existing  

484
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,520
hurricane loan, originally $150 million, to 
initially fund the construction of phase 1,  

485
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:51,840
which represents the first 50 wet slips. After 
several discussions with Joe PCOZ or JOPC,  

486
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,880
this agenda item offers an alternative funding 
option for the commission to consider. The city  

487
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:03,840
and JOPC entered into a ground lease dated August 
25th of 2020 for a portion of the marina property  

488
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:09,280
and JOPC constructed and is presently operating a 
hotel and restaurant on the lease property. As an  

489
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:15,040
obligation of the ground lease, JOPC is presently 
paying participation rent to the city based on a  

490
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:20,720
percentage of gross revenues generated by Hotel 
Indigo and Harrison's Restaurant. This is section  

491
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:25,440
um 2.4 4 titled rent and the ground lease 
contained in the attachment C in your packet  

492
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:30,960
this evening. JOPC again has offered to prepay 
its participation rent in an amount of up to  

493
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:37,200
$5 million to fund construction cost associated 
with phase 1 wet slips the first 50 slips. If  

494
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:42,560
this offer is accepted, the city will receive and 
approve invoices from the wet slips contractor.  

495
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:48,160
JOPC who will pay the invoice amounts to the 
city. The amounts paid by JOPC are considered  

496
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:54,480
prepaid participation rent and the total paid 
uh will be uh accounted for in the prepaid  

497
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,280
participation rent agreement. The balance in 
the prepaid participation rent account will be  

498
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,840
reduced by the participation rent payments when 
due under the ground lease. When the prepaid  

499
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:09,760
participation rent accounts balance is zero, then 
JOPC will resume the participation rent payments  

500
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:15,280
to the city. As part of this agreement, the city 
agrees to provide at its expense the electricity,  

501
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,800
the water, and sewer services needed to support 
phase 1 wet slips and to pursue development of the  

502
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:26,640
T do Upland's area to further support the marina's 
operations. The estimated cost for this upland  

503
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:33,840
work is $3.179 million as addressed in attachment 
D to agenda item 12A this evening. The Upland work  

504
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:39,360
is planned to be funded by the line of credit 
provided by Truis Bank as previously described.  

505
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,600
staff this evening request direction from the 
commission regarding the prepaid participation  

506
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:48,880
rent agreement as outlined in the attached and 
I'll turn it over to Mr. Zimmerman at this time.  

507
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:55,200
Thank you. Uh just a couple of points. I won't go 
over things that have already been talked about.  

508
00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:01,840
Uh but one point to make is that the commission 
is already has the ability to fund uh the award  

509
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:09,040
of a contract to construct the the wet slips. 
This is an alternate or another way of doing  

510
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:17,200
that which the St. Joe company through Joe PC has 
offered and without and I believe the agenda item  

511
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:24,720
request form covered uh well the participation 
rent and how that works. There is an existing  

512
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:33,920
provision in the agreement that talks about the 
fact that um that if this is accepted by the city  

513
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:41,520
the St. Joe company through Joe PC has indicated 
obviously their interest and the city's interest  

514
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:49,520
are aligned to see that a marina is constructed 
well and operated well. So they would like to  

515
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:58,240
uh enter into a management agreement for um that 
would be for a period of 5 years. It would pay  

516
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:09,760
um a fee of 3%. No. Yeah. 3% of the gross marina 
revenues. Uh they would have a right of first  

517
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:17,520
refusal to manage and operate the subsequent phase 
that phase two of this would finish out the basin  

518
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:26,240
next to hotel indigo and the restaurant. We did 
have a we meeting staff talk to PFM and P uh this  

519
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:33,760
afternoon. And PFM is the uh consultants that we 
used and that you used when we were entertaining  

520
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:41,920
a private uh public partner uh proposal for 
the downtown marina and they reviewed marina  

521
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:47,680
uh agreements throughout the state of Florida 
when they came up with their uh projections of  

522
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:55,840
of uh cost and revenues. They indic and they won. 
They agreed that if the commission accepts this,  

523
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:02,720
we have 60 days to enter into a management 
agreement. If for some reason that we can't,  

524
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:10,880
then uh we go back to ground zero. There's and 
we just wouldn't be pursuing this funding option.  

525
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:18,560
They would agree, PFM would agree to assist in 
that effort. Also they indicated that 3% of the  

526
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:25,600
gross marina revenues is actually somewhat less 
than what they had been looking at when they made  

527
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:32,800
revenue projections. So they felt it was very it 
was a reasonable market rate uh proposal that Joe  

528
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:40,000
PC had made. There are a lot of specifics to be 
worked out in the management agreement itself. Um,  

529
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:47,840
but it is um uh I I did a short review of it 
there in my letter and it's also in the agreement,  

530
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:55,440
but it says that the as far as that we would go 
and work it out, but certain terms were listed  

531
00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:03,760
as that it would include. If we can't resolve it, 
then we'd come back and and we wouldn't have this  

532
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:11,360
particular agreement. But this is an agreement but 
it also it has a condition as far as management  

533
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:19,120
over the uh for over phase one. And Nevin can 
you for the benefit of the public explain what  

534
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:29,120
uplands means on this particular item. Well, there 
is on this item uplands and this item uplands is  

535
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:36,320
really pertaining to those things that would 
support the use of the phase one. Phase one is  

536
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:44,560
50 slips in the basin next to Harrison Restaurant 
and Indigo Hotel. The total buildout for that  

537
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:51,440
basin will be approximately a hundred slips. So, 
it's the Uplands that are needed to support that.  

538
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:59,280
And there's also an obligation to provide water 
and sewer and power to the to support that. And  

539
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:07,120
there would be an obligation to provide parking 
uh things things that like that um that would  

540
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:14,960
support that. There's no specificity exactly 
what all that is. Um but that is what is the  

541
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:21,760
uplands that it says it would would start working 
toward that. So just some points of clarity. Uh  

542
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,640
this is not a renegot. So the the hotel and the 
restaurant pay property taxes because it's a 99  

543
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,960
year lease. They pay bad taxes. They pay merchant 
fees. And they pay us and what we're talking about  

544
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:38,720
is their rent. And their rent, correct me if 
I'm wrong, is about $100,000 a year because

545
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:46,800
it's 100,000. We're budgeting 100,000. We have 
received more than that, but yes. So if they're  

546
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,760
and so they would potentially be paying our 
invoices from construction of the first 50 slips,  

547
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:57,040
reimbursing us and if their hotel like let's say 
in a year suddenly just starts doing terrible in  

548
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:02,720
the restaurant that does we don't have looming 
payments to it only gets that fine only gets paid  

549
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:08,960
down as they are doing rent payments to us. So it 
may take them 20 years, it may take them aundred  

550
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,840
years depending on how well those businesses 
do. And we're not carrying this looney debt on  

551
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,320
our head because that's the situation we're 
in. If we were to borrow this money, it is  

552
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:26,000
$330,000 a year of just interest cost to the city 
as opposed to just foregoing the $100,000 a year  

553
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:32,640
of estimated rent. So we're already if you look 
at the numbers, we either pay $330,000 a year  

554
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:41,040
and for this loan or we forego the $100,000 in 
rent. So to me it was a I I I like the deal and  

555
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:46,000
uh the catch is they have to manage the marina 
and and they're not when I say marina I mean the  

556
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,800
boat slips. It doesn't change the dirt. That's not 
talking about the boat ramp. We were talking about  

557
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:56,320
managing the boat slips in a marina that would 
be half built or fourth built. Right? It's not  

558
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:01,680
a situation that a lot of people would say, "Oh 
goody, let me go stand a team up and work on this  

559
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,760
marina. this this these boat slips and manage 
them while you're doing construction of other  

560
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:11,920
parts of the marina while you're you know having 
you know potentially gravel parking and putting  

561
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:18,800
sidewalks is not no ship store no fuel you know 
it's really a scrappy approach to getting this  

562
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,840
we either stand our own team up internally to 
manage the marina which I'm really not in favor  

563
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:29,280
of or we go out and start soliciting bids for 
managing this and what they've pitched to us is  

564
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:34,880
an incredible deal from financing in my opinion 
and the and the management. They are a known  

565
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:42,640
entity that manages marinas professionally and 
well and so I'm I'm very excited about this deal.

566
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:48,800
Yeah. So, I mean I I think from my perspective, I 
appreciated the um the amortization schedule that  

567
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:56,640
was provided to us in our packet. Um $5 million 
of 5% interest is basically $400,000 a year and  

568
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:03,760
over half of that um actually twothirds of it is 
interest expense. And um that's over a 20-year  

569
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:09,520
period. 20-year amortization comes out to 3.1 
by the way. Yeah. Interest. It's basically like  

570
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:15,520
$10,000 a slip, which that's going to be a year. 
That's a lot for someone to operationally carry,  

571
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:20,000
which has always been the tough part in financing 
of these things. you've got to get the rest of it  

572
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,760
built before it actually starts making any 
kind of substantial revenue. So, you know,  

573
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:31,680
I understand that some people, you know, have 
their thoughts um on one way or the other, but the  

574
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:37,440
reality is we have an option to not pay interest 
and we have an option to pay interest. And so,  

575
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:43,040
with those two together, I mean, I don't know how 
you pick, you know, one different than that. to  

576
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:50,240
the point on operations. Um I I I think we would 
be hardressed and you know I've thought to myself,  

577
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:56,800
do we go and try to give somebody an opportunity 
on 50 slips with the financing and all that stuff?  

578
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:02,240
But the reality is no one else has a building 
down there and it's 5 years. It's forever. It's  

579
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:07,440
5 years and and it's at the point where it's the 
least profitable it absolutely can be. There is  

580
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:13,760
no fueling station. There is no ship store. There 
is no nothing else. So there's that. Yes, there's  

581
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:20,960
not even an office there. So I I I mean, frankly, 
I think where I'm at with it is like it's it's a  

582
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:26,480
good step forward. Is this the end result and the 
end thing that the whole marine is done and we've  

583
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:32,000
got everything figured out? No, we don't. But 
can we get 50 slips started? Yeah, we can with  

584
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:40,640
this as it is today. So I would suggest that if 
we exercise this option, we revise our budget to  

585
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:47,680
remove that um revenue from our budget and um and 
you know because it'll be going towards a a debt  

586
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:58,640
payment essentially. No, sir. Is that Brandy? Is 
that something that that we in my mind if we if  

587
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:05,360
this we approve this the revenue has to come in 
so we can give it back to them. When are we we're  

588
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:11,200
giving that all up when we when we it's $100,000. 
I'm talking about procedurally not not in effect.  

589
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:17,760
We we'd have to work through because we would 
then also have to budget to spend the money on  

590
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,840
if the money is going to come through us and we're 
going to cut the checks to the contractors. We'll  

591
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:27,920
need to go come back and budget for that anyway. 
I think regardless we're using the temporary line  

592
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:34,880
of credit regardless to to do it because this 
is a reimbursement scenario. Correct. Yeah. So  

593
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:40,960
so we're still we're funding the construction. 
The only issue is how does that funding get paid  

594
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:46,960
back? And what is essentially a years before us is 
no upands improvements. They're not asking for a  

595
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:52,160
condo. They're not asking for anything else. Like 
they're just saying, "Look, we'd like our rent  

596
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:57,760
revenue to go dedicated towards paying that debt 
so we're not saddled with long-term debt." So,  

597
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:04,400
it's a win-win. And um what I'm getting at though 
is when we make a statement like we don't want to  

598
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:11,600
see this revenue in the budget um I think the the 
revenue is still going to come as I understood  

599
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,040
it as revenue is still going to come into us. 
There's just going to be conduit push back out.  

600
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:21,040
It's going to come into us as a reimbursement for 
the project. We we'll have to work through that,  

601
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:26,960
but it will it will not come in as 
you know the revenue fund type stuff,  

602
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,880
right? And if I understand, you still get your 
property all the property taxes are still being  

603
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:36,800
paid. This is just so there is a lot more revenue 
that's associated with these two improvements on  

604
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:42,080
Marina than even what we're discussing right now. 
But the the point that I was making is right now  

605
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:47,440
it's spoken for in the general fund budget and 
this will not be in the general fund. Yeah.  

606
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:52,160
Agreed. Agreed. It needs to be so it needs to 
be removed from the general fund. It it will we  

607
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:57,200
will remove it if this is passed. We'll remove 
it for the tentative budget. There's currently  

608
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:03,280
$100,000 in the in the proposed budget for fiscal 
year 27, but we will need to come back with a  

609
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:13,680
budget amendment to budget for the construction 
um and how the reimbursement and all of that.

610
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:22,320
Okay. Um all right. So, all your comments, 
great. I like them because one of the things  

611
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:27,920
that I didn't think about up front, we're going 
to take that $5 million that would come to us  

612
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:34,880
all the time. Put it over here. We're creating a 
gap. What are we paying that money? Where's that  

613
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:40,240
money going? General fund, it sounds like. 
What are we paying with that $100,000? So,  

614
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:45,520
I asked Brandy, give me some information. And 
that money is designated to parks and wreck.  

615
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:51,760
Okay. A department that already is, you know, 
sometimes on life support with people and all  

616
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:57,040
that and they're doing the best they can. We 
take 100 grand away from them essentially. How  

617
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:02,560
do we fill that gap back up with what money? 
That's my first question. It will be $100,000  

618
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:10,640
less that we would put in reserves. Oh, what? The 
money comes in the general fund. It goes to parks  

619
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:15,840
and recck. It it doesn't get expensed out of the 
revenue. Lost me on that one. Yeah. also because  

620
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:24,480
you currently have a $1.2 million um budgetary 
right you know okay why does it go why does it  

621
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:32,640
go to reserves people don't parks and wreck it's 
assigned for a parks and wreck expenditures but  

622
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,600
we don't we don't I understand what you're 
saying because reserves doesn't actually  

623
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:41,040
exist it's just capital whenever the previous 
commission approved the lease with St. Joe,  

624
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:46,880
they approved it for the participation rent 
to be go towards parks and wreck. I think  

625
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:51,200
y'all are missing each other on Can we Can 
we actually vote on the list and then move  

626
01:09:51,200 --> 01:10:00,720
on to that? 21 topics. Do we do we have a 
can we get a motion on 11? Well, hold on.

627
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:08,880
So, St. Joe Company. Mhm. Um, contrary to what 
the social media will tell you, they don't want  

628
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:13,840
to take over Panama City, in my opinion, and they 
don't want to own and operate the marina. They  

629
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:18,720
want us to keep owning it. They just want us to 
do what we're supposed to so people will be down  

630
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:27,120
there so they can we can all have a good time down 
there. Um, 0% interest. We already talked about  

631
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:35,440
one uh we we work with and that's right the state 
revolving fund. This is an opportunity to Norman  

632
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:43,440
Timos. We we had a a grant that we didn't take. We 
had a participation of a of a part of of P3 that  

633
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:51,040
we didn't do and now we got money. Again, we can 
do it our way with interest $3 million or we can  

634
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:58,320
go the other route. To me, it's a no-brainer 
business-wise because we get going today and  

635
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:03,040
we have some obligations on our part. We've got 
to make sure that the Upland utilities and the  

636
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:08,400
Upland lights and and railing, all that's there. 
That is not building vertically. That's building  

637
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:14,880
horizontally. Just so we all understand, we've 
got money for that. But somebody asked about,  

638
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:20,000
"Oh, we should go ahead and just build. We should 
have built a marina." That $5 million that we have  

639
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:25,840
has to go through an EHP process. Could take 18 
months. So if we waited and took that money, we'd  

640
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:32,880
have to wait 18 months to build the slips, maybe. 
So this gets us going now. We use that money, plan  

641
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,600
for it, and y'all will know where it's going once 
it's approved. We're going to tell them. So you're  

642
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:42,400
going to know up front. There's no questions. To 
me, that's the best transparency you can have. You  

643
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:47,200
get a voice in it. We ask FEMA, they approve 
it, and we go build it. That's pretty cool.  

644
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:55,280
any other option right now cost you money or um 
creates time. And I think we can all agree on one  

645
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:01,280
thing. We don't want to spend as little money as 
we have to, but move as fast as possible to get  

646
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:07,920
the best product on what I believe is the best 
piece of real estate in Northwest Florida. Okay.  

647
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:14,480
And to your point, sir, a guy leaned up here one 
day and said, "Lofers come by the marina every  

648
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:19,440
day, and we're missing them. We're missing day 
day knockers. We're missing overnighters because  

649
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:24,960
we don't have anywhere for them to go and they 
pay good money to come hang out in our city.  

650
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:30,960
Let's open it up for them. If you don't like St. 
Joe, it's okay that you don't like them. If you  

651
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:36,080
don't like that I vote for, yes, that's okay, too. 
But at the end of it, let's all stand on the dock  

652
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:40,720
and shake hands and have a good time and watch the 
sun go down. That's really what I'm after. So, I'm  

653
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:45,520
with y'all. And we still have another 150 slips 
to go. which but we'll have 50 to stand on the  

654
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:50,400
dock floor. So, so if this this might help in the 
conversation. This is just for the general public.  

655
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:57,200
So, right now we're getting about $900 a month for 
slips in St. Andrews. 50 slips. That's $540,000  

656
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:06,640
a year. What essentially St. Joe has offered to 
front the money in advance on their rent for a fee  

657
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:15,120
uh to manage of point or z of 3%. So, basically, 
it's $16,200. that St. Joe would make if they're  

658
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:25,520
fully leased 100% of the time for the full year, 
$16,000, $200, the city would make $500 and like  

659
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:32,240
$34,000. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, Nevin, 
but that money has to marina and come from the  

660
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:37,360
boat slip rental. It'll go in the marina. Yeah. 
And our large land lease requires that money  

661
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:42,160
be spent on the marina. So if you're seeing if 
you're seeing a lot of support that's up here,  

662
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:50,240
it's because financially there's no other option 
that is better than this option. So I like sure if  

663
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,640
somebody else wants to take the next uh the next 
30 days to throw something that's a better deal  

664
01:13:54,640 --> 01:14:02,400
than that that you're willing to make $16,200 on 
50 slip rentals for 5 years while the city makes,  

665
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:09,360
you know, 530,000. um and you're willing 
to front the money to build all the slips  

666
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:16,880
um and all of that, then sure, great. But I would 
be hardressed to see if somebody's actually going  

667
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:22,400
to be able to do something like that. I'd like 
to see I'll make a motion that we accept the  

668
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:28,480
St. Joe offer. And here's why. We have 60 days 
to also maybe talk about I'm not a big fan of  

669
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:34,480
the five years, but if that's what we not but 
in the 60 days, we can negotiate with St. Joe.  

670
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:41,040
And if it if we fall flat on our face, we can go 
pay 5% and $3 million on FA in interest, but we  

671
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:46,160
got a way to pay for it. That's the last option we 
want. But we have a fallback. So if if we go ahead  

672
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:51,280
and accept this option today, we got 60 days to 
work on it. And I promise we'll keep you updated  

673
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:58,400
on how that goes. So I make a motion accept that 
offer with uh with a 60-day window to negotiate.  

674
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:08,400
We restate the motion. Brand tell them about that. 
He's motioning to accept the offer from St. Joe  

675
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:15,280
for them to manage or not manage come back in 60 
days with the management agreement but for them  

676
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:24,240
to finance the 50 slips or sooner. We got up to 60 
days. Yeah, but that's you know been just the the  

677
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:30,640
motion is to accept the uh proposal prepayment of 
participation rent agreement. In that agreement,  

678
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:36,960
it allows 60 days to come back with a management 
agreement. Yes. If for some reason that doesn't  

679
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:44,080
work out, then the agreement you just approved 
would terminate by all parties and we just  

680
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:53,280
keep do something else. Thank you. Sounds 
good. We have a motion. Do we have a second?

681
01:15:53,280 --> 01:16:01,920
I'll second. Okay. Any discussion? I was about to 
jump up and say somebody. No, any discussion. I I  

682
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:07,600
would just like to add the statement was made 
about um you know sta city staff not managing  

683
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,760
the marina. I just want to state as a city manager 
I agree with that. So I think it's important the  

684
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:16,400
public see that both the elected officials and 
the senior appointed officials concur with that.  

685
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:20,480
I think we've already moved away from that. I 
think trying to move back uh would be unfair  

686
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:25,600
and and unwise at this point. I think I think it's 
it's also should be said that the staff the staff  

687
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,720
that we had that did manage awesome was awesome. 
I think one of the problems is is that they worked  

688
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:39,040
for the city which when when they needed to get a 
uh was it a it was a bait vendor. Um like it took  

689
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:44,160
them 6 months to get something that that any 
business it would take maybe a week to get. I  

690
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:54,880
would like to see a plan by staff to operate the 
marina on $16,200 a year. Yeah. So, all right.

691
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:59,440
All right. Please call the role. Commissioner 
Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes. Yes.  

692
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:05,200
Commissioner Granger. Yes. Mayor Branch? 
Yes. Motion passes four to zero. Item 12A  

693
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:11,680
is consideration of award of bid PC26-021 
for the construction of 50 wet slips in  

694
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,840
the western basin of the downtown Panama 
City Marina. As background information,  

695
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:21,360
the city through the city's purchasing division 
uh solicited competitive bids for the construction  

696
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:27,920
of the first 50 wet slips through a formal 
solicitation bid PC26-021 on April 13th of  

697
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:34,080
this year and open the bids received on June 24th 
of 2026. These wet slips can be constructed under  

698
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,960
an exemption from the formal permit requirement 
documented in a letter from the Florida Department  

699
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:46,000
of Environmental Protection or D exemption letter 
dated April 17th of 2024. This exemption letter  

700
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:50,960
is contained in your packet as attachment A 
for your review. After receiving 14 bids, one  

701
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:56,880
was determined to be nonresponsive as several key 
required documents were not submitted as required  

702
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:02,800
on the formal instructions to biders. The engineer 
of record, Terrar Hall and Associates or THAA  

703
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:07,680
determined that additional information was needed 
from the lowest three biders to clarify that they  

704
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:13,200
had sufficient experience and capacity to complete 
the scope of work. The request for information  

705
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:19,680
was sent out uh on July 24th of this year with 
the responses requested back by July 29th. All  

706
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:24,720
three contractors responded by the deadline. 
Based on their review of this information,  

707
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:29,840
THAA determined that two of the lowest three 
bid packages did not satisfy the requirement,  

708
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:36,480
as stated, a minimum of 5 years of experience 
in marine construction to include consecutive  

709
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:43,600
and active experience of work similar in scope, 
leaving HGarters and Suns as the lowest responsive  

710
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:50,720
bid received. Their bid amount was approximately 
3% lower than THA's opinion of probable cost. For  

711
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:57,360
details of their bid analysis, see attachment C 
in this document representing a memo from THAA  

712
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:03,440
on August 3rd of this year documenting their 
analysis and resulting recommendation. Again,  

713
01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:10,560
14 bids were received. C bid tab in attachment 
B in this packet for your review. HG Harter and  

714
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:20,800
Suns was determined by THAA to be the lowest 
conforming bid at a price of 3,616,3565.

715
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,720
This agenda item request is for the 
approval to accept this bid and move  

716
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:28,400
forward with the construction of the 
first 50 wet slips in the western basin,  

717
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:35,360
the basin closest to Hotel Indigo. Staff 
recommendation on behalf of THAA Engineering  

718
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:46,720
is that the commission approve bid PC26-021 
to HG Harder Sons in the amount of 3,616,3565.

719
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:52,000
Mr. Mayor Commission, I just want to point out 
that Mr. Todd Terrell and Mr. Jake Jawers of  

720
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:58,240
uh THA are here with us this evening, the design 
engineering firm uh and they are able to answer  

721
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,880
any questions that you all may have. Mr. 
Mayor. Yes. Uh, as mentioned previously,  

722
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:07,040
I'm going to open up public comments. If 
so, if you'd like to speak about item 12A,  

723
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:17,440
please come forward. Anyone want to 
speak about 12A? Yes, sir. Come on down.

724
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:22,320
And just to kind of frame the conversation is less 
about should we build slips and more about which  

725
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:30,880
bid do we choose? Just kind preferences. Yes, sir. 
Yep. Okay. Um, well, I'm very glad that you're not  

726
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:39,200
putting the small boats that you had planned up 
there that belong next to the uh um boat ramps so  

727
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:43,920
that you don't have people trying to launch their 
boat and then having to yield every time a boat,  

728
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:49,200
a large boat comes in or leaves because they would 
be small boats next to the boat ramp and small  

729
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:55,680
boats. I don't know if you're going to give that 
up forever. I hope you do and stick with this. Um,  

730
01:20:55,680 --> 01:21:01,520
I'm glad to see that you're you're not at least 
laying the plumbing for the apartments in the  

731
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:13,840
upland area. Um, I don't know about the uh the 
compensation though, the your uh document saying  

732
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:22,720
um if if they're paying up for 308 million 
property paying $100,000 in property tax. We're  

733
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:33,920
only 12 for the construction of this place. Okay. 
will um so it's $3 million for the construction  

734
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:43,200
and the the St. Joe's loaning you 500 5 million 
5 million and are you using 3.1 million to build  

735
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:48,480
this? I'm not sure why you're getting more money 
than you're actually using to to build the Good  

736
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:55,040
question. Good question because in the uh 
drawing they have vote lifts and they put  

737
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:59,520
enough money in there if you when you wanted to 
put a boat lift in they're going to pay for that.  

738
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:05,360
So the 5 million is for the whole thing if you do 
put in the uh the sea break that you're talking  

739
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:11,040
about 50 slopes. What's Okay. So your 5 million 
is for the actual lifts and the other ones that  

740
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:16,240
I was asking just recently that would be better 
on the other side next to the boat ramp. That 5  

741
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:20,400
million is to include that portion. You just 
haven't spent that. You're spending the 3.1  

742
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:25,920
for just these. Is that what you're saying? We 
have we're today we are discussing which bid  

743
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:30,160
we are choosing. That's the only thing that's 
the only thing this agenda item is related to  

744
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:38,160
which construction. So which council thank 
you. Would you want to clarify potentially?  

745
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:48,800
Yes. Uh the uh prepayment of rent is for the 
cost of the construction of the wet slips. So,  

746
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:55,920
whatever is chosen, and it w it is an up 
to $5 million uh number because the amount  

747
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:02,240
was not known at the time that the draft was 
done, but it's a uh it will be for the cost of  

748
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:11,120
the construction of the wet slims. Gotcha. 
Anyone else want to speak about item 12A?

749
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:16,640
Seeing none, I'll close public comments. 
Do I uh have any motion? Do we want to go  

750
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:30,160
bring up Mr. Yeah, I have questions 
for THA. Come on down. Yes, sir.

751
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:36,000
Podium table. Yes, sir. Name and address 
for the record. Yep. I'm Jake Joers,  

752
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:44,720
engineer at Terrell Hall and Associates. Address 
3625 Cottage Club Lane, Naples, Florida 34105.

753
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:54,160
All right. Um, we're going to kind of go into 
this a little bit. Um, your evaluation used the  

754
01:23:54,160 --> 01:24:01,920
absence of marina utility experience, shore 
power, portable water, that kind of stuff as  

755
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:07,760
a key reason our marine was not qualified. But 
in addendum three, the city was asked to define  

756
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:14,400
these minimum standards for those exact systems 
and the city chose not to do that. Um, so I'm  

757
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:19,520
I'm just curious when I asked this question last 
night. Why were those criteria because it seems  

758
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:26,800
like those criteria were still used to score the 
bid. Correct. Um well, I think it's worth pointing  

759
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:33,840
out that they were disqualified for two reasons. 
The first being the lack of 5 years of experience.  

760
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:41,120
Um, it's August, so in order to have 5 years 
marine construction experience, you would  

761
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:51,520
have had to start something in August of 2021. The 
earliest project they submitted was 2022. So, that  

762
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:58,320
was one of two reasons they were disqualified. 
To answer your question about utilities, um,  

763
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:03,600
there's two big reasons that we considered the 
utilities a big part of this. The first being that  

764
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:10,720
if you read all of your bids, uh not just the low 
three, all of them that were received the electric  

765
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:17,440
and the fixed stocks are the two big ticket 
items. Um with the electric, you potable water  

766
01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:26,080
and fire all the utilities totaling about 35 to 
45% of the for all these. So, in our opinion, um,  

767
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:30,320
with it being such a big component of the cost, 
we thought it was important to evaluate when we're  

768
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:39,520
looking at what projects are considered similar. 
Um, we are aware that it is most likely those  

769
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:47,120
utilities will be subbed out to a subcontractor. 
However, if you read the invitation to bid,  

770
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:53,280
um, there's a requirement. It says the city seeks 
bids from qualified, experienced, licensed marine  

771
01:25:53,280 --> 01:26:00,400
contractors uh to provide all supervision, labor, 
and equipment required for the construction of  

772
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:06,960
the slips. Um their subcontractors, yes, I still 
think it's important for them to be experienced  

773
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:14,480
in the supervision of those subcontractors. 
Um, we've seen projects go south due to poor  

774
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:22,880
management of subs and uh, inability to coordinate 
those utilities. So hopefully that answers your  

775
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:27,520
question. That's why we thought that was an 
important criteria. So next question for you  

776
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:34,000
is you scored the Mexico Beach Canal project as 
similar in scope for harders. The federal permit  

777
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:39,280
for that project authorizes only sheet pile wall 
at finger peers. None of the three utility systems  

778
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:44,000
you cited against Art Marine. So, how did you 
determine that that project was more similar than  

779
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:50,240
Art Marine's larger structural marine projects? 
So, based on the document that Harter provided  

780
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:57,440
the city in response to the request for additional 
projects, they stated that there was I don't have  

781
01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:03,120
the exact wording in front of me there. They 
stated that there was infrastructure for power  

782
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:08,400
distribution, power pedestals, and portable water 
at each slip. Uh to answer your question about the  

783
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:14,080
Army Corps permit, the Army Corps doesn't really 
permit utilities. They look at inwater impacts  

784
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:22,080
like piles and overwater shading. So I I wouldn't 
expect to see the utilities in that document.

785
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:29,040
All right. Uh last question is your memorandum 
still references a sewer pumpout station and  

786
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:38,400
addendum seven removed that item from the scope 
of PC26-021 was the evaluation performed against  

787
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:46,000
the final contract documents after all the 
addend Could you repeat the last part of  

788
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:53,280
that? was the evaluation performed against all 
of the final contracts after addenda 7 cuz it  

789
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:59,600
removed the pumpout station. So that's 
where it's kind of look I both of these  

790
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,440
contractors are great. I mean we're going to 
win if we select either one of them. So I'm  

791
01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:08,880
not I don't have a preference either way. But 
what I have a problem with is that when things  

792
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:15,760
show up after other agendas and we're holding 
bids and contractors over millions of dollars,  

793
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:24,160
that's where I I start to kind of question what's 
going on here. So it was a pump pumpout station.  

794
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:37,600
We removed that and then you referenced it. Um 
where did we reference that? in your memorandum.

795
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,280
Okay. Yeah, we probably should have deleted 
that out of the statement there. So,  

796
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:52,000
is that used as a scoring criteria? Yeah. 
Okay. Thank you. Yep. Any questions?

797
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:58,480
That was it. Any other pull on the other bids 
act? Any other questions? Anyone else? No,  

798
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:02,400
I mean I I've got a lot of respect for 
all the bidders. Um, this was probably  

799
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:06,160
the most bids that we've gotten on any 
project, I think, since I've been here. So,  

800
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:12,400
I was super excited to see how many people. Um, 
at the end of the day, it's taxpayer money. And,  

801
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:18,480
um, you know, if you got the qualified license, 
the bank's willing to bond you. We've got a CI  

802
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:23,520
that's going to be on the team to inspect the 
work. I I don't know how we just go and just say,  

803
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:30,720
"Hey, let's let's move up to higher biders." Um, 
I respect the opinions of everybody that's given,  

804
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:35,840
but at the end of the day, like we we put we put 
contractors through the ringer when it comes to a  

805
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:44,560
bidding process, trying to keep it level, open 
playing field, and um, you know, I mean, the  

806
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:52,240
bottom line is it's taxpayer dollars. We should 
go with a little bit. I agree. Do we want to move  

807
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:56,560
into a motion or we continue discussion? You want 
to entertain a motion? So, Commissioner Hughes has  

808
01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:00,480
asked me to read just a couple of definitions 
out of our purchasing manual if that's okay,  

809
01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:06,080
Mr. Mayor. Absolutely. So, um, definition of 
a respondent is a person or entity who submits  

810
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:12,800
an offer in response to a solicitation. Also be 
referred to as a proposer, an offer, or a bidder.  

811
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:18,400
A responsible respondent is an individual or 
business which has submitted a bid, an offer,  

812
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:24,720
a proposal, a quotation or response which as 
determined by the city has the capability in all  

813
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:31,360
respects to formally uh sorry to perform fully 
the contract requirements and the experience,  

814
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:36,880
integrity, reliability and capacity the 
facilities, the equipment and credit which  

815
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:41,440
give reasonable assurance of good faith and 
performance. The city may also consider and  

816
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:46,080
give weight to the respondents previous conduct 
and performance under previous contracts with the  

817
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:52,400
city and other agencies including but not limited 
to delinquency and determine the quality of the  

818
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:58,000
respondent's previous work. City staff may after 
bid opening request additional information from  

819
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:03,520
the respondent concerning his or her ability 
to perform and the respondent may voluntarily  

820
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:09,440
after opening provide additional or corrective 
information concerning his or her responsibility  

821
01:31:09,440 --> 01:31:16,240
as a respondent. And then a responsive respondent 
is an individual or business which has submitted  

822
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:23,760
a bid, an offer, proposal, quotation or response 
which as determined by the city conforms in all  

823
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:30,480
material respects to the solicitation which may 
include but is not limited to pricing, shity,  

824
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:37,360
insurance, specifications of the goods or services 
requested or any other matter unequivocally stated  

825
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:43,920
in the invitation for bids as determined uh 
as responsiveness. A lack of conformity in  

826
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:49,440
these matters which is non-s substantive in 
nature may be considered a technicality or  

827
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:55,120
irregularity which may be waved by the city. The 
purchasing division will notify any respondents  

828
01:31:55,120 --> 01:32:00,960
of any non-substantive informalities in their 
response. The respondent will then have 24 hours  

829
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:06,320
from the time of the notification to furnish their 
requested information to the purchasing division.  

830
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:10,720
If the opening is on a Friday, they will have 
until Monday at 5:00 p.m. to reply. If no  

831
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:16,720
response as requested is received within 24 hours 
of the notification, the respondent will be then  

832
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:22,720
deemed non-responsive. And a responsive bid is a 
bid or a proposal which conforms in all material  

833
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:28,000
respects to the competitive solicitation. I think 
those are the relevant definitions. Mr. Mayor,  

834
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:34,720
commissioners, thank you. Yes, sir. Do have a 
question for you guys. y'all operated under those  

835
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:42,400
definitions, those requirements. Okay. Yeah. 
You'll have to come back to the microphone.

836
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:47,360
You have to say your name and 
your address and give the record.

837
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:51,600
Like Mr. Henry, she just knows his name 
where he lives. He comes here every time.  

838
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:58,320
You want me to say it again? Yeah. Yeah. 
Jake Joers, 3625 Cottage Club Lane, Naples,  

839
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:05,520
Florida 34105. Right. So you use both of those 
definitions. You disqualify them and and found  

840
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:10,320
reasonable and non-reasonable. Correct. In 
in all the notice. Correct. I mean again  

841
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:16,240
we in the ITB it says they have to have 5 
years. We didn't see that demonstrated. So  

842
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:23,680
that's why we disqualified them. So yes. Were 
there any um requests for information that  

843
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:30,800
u changed any timelines any requirements? anything 
that would have um made the disqualified first  

844
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:35,360
and be qualified. I'm learning about these 
things about so I'm asking questions just  

845
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:40,880
I would have never thought about did did y'all 
change any rules along the way or add anything  

846
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:48,160
along the way in the in the men? So there was an 
additional request where the city sent out to the  

847
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:55,360
three lowest biders a request for additional 
project experience. I believe the original bid  

848
01:33:55,360 --> 01:34:05,360
said within 5 years and that extended the 
the timeline to 10 years. Good. Thank you.

849
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:14,720
I don't have any questions. So he said um my 
concern is this. We want to now make a decision  

850
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:24,320
about how to move forward with someone over money. 
Not even is it the right person, wrong person? Is  

851
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:30,480
it we need to make sure we're going to have a 
class A project. We had a chance to do this and  

852
01:34:30,480 --> 01:34:36,720
it wouldn't cost us any money and we couldn't make 
a decision then. I'm concerned that we're rushing  

853
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:45,840
to a decision now because of um saving money. Not 
taking away from Mr. Bowers at all. It's not his  

854
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:53,840
fault that he comes in low. It's our fault that 
we are having to work off of saving money. That's  

855
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:58,400
that's where I'm getting caught in here because 
are we going to do this entire project this way?  

856
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:03,840
And it was going to be paid for 100% to Josh's 
part. It was going to be paid for. I'm having to  

857
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:10,400
break out on the last one we had and and it was 
zero dollars for us. So that's my angst right  

858
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:16,320
now. Sure. And maybe Mr. Mowers can um help that. 
Well, I I think you said we're going to continue  

859
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:20,960
forward with this and and I plan on continuing 
forward choosing the lowest bid when the when  

860
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:28,000
the contractor has proven themselves into their 
bid and we have stop gaps of their bond and uh and  

861
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:33,280
all the other things CI to ensure that they're in 
plans to ensure that uh we're inspecting the work  

862
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:38,960
that we are receiving what we've bidded for and I 
believe staff is pretty confident that these bids  

863
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,560
uh they can't go back and change their 
mind on their price and they're locked in.  

864
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:48,800
And so I would just ask like what situation are 
we what are we saving ourselves from? What are  

865
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:54,320
we avoiding? What what are we avoiding? Because 
the last project, the last presentation was true  

866
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:59,760
no cost with the exception of 300,000 ft in 
the uplands being built. But take that aside,  

867
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:05,200
what we're what we're talking about now is exactly 
the same except we're it's we're we're zeroed out.  

868
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:10,240
Never mind the upland side. That's the problem 
I've got. What what is the situation that we are  

869
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:15,280
worried that's going to happen if we choose the 
lowest bid? It's not about the lowest bid. We're  

870
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:25,440
making a decision based on we got a recommendation 
to do one thing and I feel like that decisions are  

871
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:33,360
are being made or being asked to be made based on 
dollars, not on recommendations. So that's just a  

872
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,520
concern that I have, you know, doesn't mean 
I'm going to go yes or no on that. Yeah. Um,  

873
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:41,920
I I don't have any other questions. I've been 
very clear about my stance and I'm I'm ready to  

874
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:47,920
move forward um with the lowest bid and um I don't 
have any questions for any biders or engineers.  

875
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:56,480
And I'd like to clarify a couple things. Sure. 
Come on up. David Bowers, Art Marine. Uh the two  

876
01:36:56,480 --> 01:37:03,360
uh items that uh the evaluation team said we were 
disqualified on the first one that we don't have  

877
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:10,080
five years. That's not what the question was. 
The question was supply three jobs within the  

878
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:16,320
last 5 years. I could have put on the form three 
jobs in 2026. That doesn't mean that we only have  

879
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:21,520
3 months of business. Then they extended out 
to 10. We didn't have to change it. We already  

880
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:27,520
had our qualifications met. So when they're 
evaluating our experience and I again if it  

881
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:34,080
was only for 3 months, three jobs of like size in 
marine construction, we provided that. We didn't  

882
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:41,200
fail that evaluation. We passed that with flying 
colors. We are the most responsive bidder. We are  

883
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:47,760
the lowest bidder and we should be awarded this 
job. The second item when they're talking about  

884
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:56,320
uh the evaluation, uh unfortunately they they 
went outside of that as well. Um the evaluation  

885
01:37:56,320 --> 01:38:04,160
used criteria that was never in the ITB. The 
ITB asked for marine construction experience  

886
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:12,720
during bidding. A bidder asked a city in writing 
to define the qualification standard. That bit  

887
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:22,400
that bidder named fire suppression, water systems, 
and electrical. Addendum 3 had an opportunity to  

888
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:33,120
add that. Addendum 3 did not. The city declined to 
add them. The evaluation team used that. Anyway,  

889
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:42,080
your purchasing manual manual of the city of 
Panama City, section 14 says no criteria may  

890
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:48,240
be used that is not in the solicitation. So, 
where did we fail on the two items? Did we  

891
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:57,200
have experience in five years? Yes. Did we meet 
the evaluation? Yes. Any other questions for me?

892
01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:01,600
No sir. I'm your lowest bidder. Yes,  

893
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:12,640
sir. Thank you. I will entertain a motion. 
I'd like to say something. Sure. Come on down.

894
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:20,320
Hey. Hey. Jacob Harters, HG Harters, 
1615 Wahoo Lane, Panama City Beach.  

895
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:26,720
So there's it's not up to me to uh talk about the 
qualifications of Art Marine by any means, but I  

896
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:33,520
would speak as to the city's position with the ITB 
process, not knowing, you know, the ins and outs  

897
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:40,240
of the purchasing manual. This obviously being 
an ITB with an extensive qualification package  

898
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:47,600
and reference package desired at bid time. In the 
bids, I find it curious that the low bidder would  

899
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:55,680
have just one named reference or qualification 
for the three rather than various ones. Um,  

900
01:39:55,680 --> 01:40:03,200
I would perhaps ask questions about that. You 
know, from the city's process side, it was deemed  

901
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:10,400
as you received the bids and studied them to go 
to a third party review. So, I'd ask the question,  

902
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:16,880
you've had the third party review from a credible 
source, outside source. Um, does the city dismiss  

903
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:25,680
that and say that the folks that they hired that 
their opinion is not credible, that the city has  

904
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:33,600
more marina experience than a marina engineer? 
Um, maybe, maybe not. I would just ask from the  

905
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:44,240
ITV process, how did we really review everything? 
Um, how are we accepting the third party engineers  

906
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:55,520
opinion? Um, it sounds like, you know, perhaps 
all of that is tenatively dismissed and I would be  

907
01:40:55,520 --> 01:41:01,840
curious if uh if that's what's happening. Mr. B, 
could you come on up for me? Come on up. Yeah. I'd  

908
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:07,760
like you to define uh you know this is different 
than private business. This is a governmental bid  

909
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:12,800
and unfortunately we from my understanding don't 
have the option of just picking willy-nilly who  

910
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:18,240
we think is the has the biggest cranes and the 
biggest staff. What's our criteria? How do we  

911
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:25,200
look at these bids and look at the lowest bid 
to disqualify as as elected officials? Well,  

912
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:29,040
we had a question that was similar to this last 
evening to your virtual workshop. You just give  

913
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:34,560
your title for the public. People might not 
know who you are. And God's not the answer.  

914
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:43,680
Mike Burke, uh, assistant city attorney, 221 
Mackenzie Avenue, Panama City, Florida. Is that  

915
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:51,920
right, Mr. Zimmerman? Okay, my three minutes 
is up. I'm sorry. I'll come back later. Um,  

916
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,680
so the question was asked last night. What 
What are we Why are we here? This is an unusual  

917
01:41:55,680 --> 01:42:01,200
situation where you've had um something like this 
come to you. Um, and the the way I described it to  

918
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:07,200
you last night and the way I'll give it to you 
again is um you are sitting in this isn't this  

919
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:12,960
isn't a perfect analogy, but it's a good analogy. 
You're sitting in uh almost a quasi judicial  

920
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:20,880
capacity. You have been presented with um a set of 
rules um by which we sent out, we being the city  

921
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:25,840
sent out a request or an invitation for biders to 
come back. Um those biders have come back. you've  

922
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:31,520
had staff come and review that for you, make a 
recommendation based on their rules and the way  

923
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:37,440
they've seen it u based on the the timeline and 
the criteria um that are before you and they've  

924
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:42,160
made a recommendation. Now you're your job just 
like you would in a zoning request or something  

925
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:48,960
like that is to take the the facts and the the 
rules and compare the two and determine what you  

926
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:55,200
think to be um the basis for the determination. 
um the evidence was collected, so to speak,  

927
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:59,520
to put this back in sort of a judicial um 
determination. The evidence was collected during a  

928
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:05,600
certain amount of time period. Um that was um from 
the invitation to bid until the bid was closed.  

929
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:10,560
There was a provision um that allowed in the rules 
that said if we've got some clarifications that  

930
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:15,200
we need to make, we'll ask some additional 
questions of folks. You heard that. That was  

931
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:21,440
um Mr. Jawers gave that to you. And now it's 
your determination to to it's your decision or  

932
01:43:21,440 --> 01:43:29,520
job to make the determine based on that what you 
believe to to be the the the facts bear out for  

933
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:35,600
the decision that you want to make. Um and so you 
know you can have there there may be all kind of  

934
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:41,920
different reasons of of why you individually think 
this is to be a you know one's more acceptable  

935
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:47,280
than the other. Um, but ultimately as a body you 
come together and make that determination when  

936
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:52,800
you make your motion and your second and and have 
your vote. Does anyone have any questions for the  

937
01:43:52,800 --> 01:44:02,480
legal situation? So um we got a recommendation 
and we go with a little bit. Is there a what is  

938
01:44:02,480 --> 01:44:09,840
afforded each party if they if we voted the other 
way that they think we went with with harders can  

939
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:15,280
or protest what can they what what can they do 
again I mean that's that's the same there we  

940
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:19,840
have rules regarding how you file a protest so yes 
if someone doesn't like the decision that's made  

941
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:25,440
here they have an opportunity to to appeal that 
decision make a bid protest to you um no different  

942
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:29,920
than again I'll use the zoning analogy one time 
one more time for you you know if somebody didn't  

943
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:35,360
what your zoning decision is. You turn them down 
or something. They can go and appeal you for that  

944
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:41,440
and have someone else make that determination. 
Who's going to look at this record going to decide  

945
01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:46,560
what what you've talked about today based on the 
rules and then determine whether or not based on  

946
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:53,600
substantial competent evidence that means good 
evidence that um that your decision um was the  

947
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:59,760
right decision. and that is um you are given 
great difference um as the legislative body to  

948
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:05,200
make those decisions. Um so you're not going to 
be um second guessed is is the way I would put  

949
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:10,160
you wouldn't be second guessed unless there is a 
really really good reason um to make that second  

950
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:14,720
guess of you and that's because you violated 
some some standard or rule or something along  

951
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:26,320
those lines. So very good. Thank you. Any other 
questions? Thank you. I will entertain a motion.

952
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:31,600
Motion to approve load bid um with also 
instructions staff to hire outside CI  

953
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:40,480
to oversee the process. Do I have a 
second? I'll second that. Discussion.  

954
01:45:40,480 --> 01:45:47,360
Please call the role. Commissioner 
Street. Yes. Commissioner Hughes.

955
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:57,040
Yes. Commissioner Granger. Yes. Mayor Branch. 
Yes. Motion passes four to zero. Mayor and  

956
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:04,240
commissioners. Uh item 12B uh is uh no no real 
action is necessary. We just um wanted to put  

957
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:11,200
the budget uh as drafted um and proposed um on the 
agenda in advance of the September 8th uh first  

958
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:17,200
reading just to see if there's any additional 
questions um that that y'all may have um in  

959
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:23,280
order to get clarity uh ahead of staff. is, you 
know, we've already had five pre-budget workshops  

960
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:28,080
uh with each and every one of you, but again, 
just wanted to give another opportunity uh before  

961
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:34,960
we got into the um the first official reading as 
required by state law uh on September 8th uh for  

962
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:41,200
uh for the FY2027 budget. Can we make sure we 
get um Mrs. Sunday the long-term debt summary  

963
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:50,880
kind of like a distrib this far? I'd love to go 
distribute it. I I'm I'll get with her to clarify  

964
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:58,080
what information she's wanting. Um well, if she 
needs to clarify, I'll clarify what information I  

965
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:03,280
would like. I'd like to just see where our current 
debt is right now and what that would convert to  

966
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:11,040
if it's long-term. Are you asking for a balance 
of our 150? Yes. Okay. So, we paid off around 73.  

967
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:16,560
you just whatever that balance is and what that 
would look like in a long-term debt scenario in  

968
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:22,480
any planned payments before it's paid off. You 
told us we're going to pay off maybe another 20  

969
01:47:22,480 --> 01:47:28,320
or 30 million. I'd like to see that forecast out 
because what's coming back is the bulkhead and  

970
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:32,640
that 5 million for that one there. So that's got 
to be included back in the future as well. That's  

971
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:38,400
that's a great point. So that should include any 
obligations that we have already committed to such  

972
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:43,760
as projects that we have said and we've approved 
budgetary expenditures but they may not have been  

973
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:50,880
incurred yet the 23 like the 23 million that y'all 
have approved. Is that what you're referring to?  

974
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:56,400
Yeah. So a great example of St. Andrew's bulkhead 
that that full project amount be reflected in  

975
01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:01,600
the debt um and the projected debt balance. 
Same thing with anything that's on Martin.  

976
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:06,800
Same thing with anything that's on any other 
projects that we have ongoing and a potential  

977
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:13,520
end date payment when that loan goes away. So if 
it's a 30-year loan, is that possible? The terms  

978
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:20,080
we're looking at doing a bond for the long term 
um which would be long term. it would, you know,  

979
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:24,800
probably be 30 years. Yeah, I'd love to see you 
guys work with staff and this Sunday to come  

980
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:29,200
up with a maybe it's a quarterly debt strategy 
report we're getting or something that's maybe  

981
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:34,400
added on to this or someone just so yeah, just 
feel free to send the comments and Yeah. So,  

982
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:42,880
the balance commissioner street is 77 million. 
Okay. 23 that we've approved already. Correct.  

983
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:48,400
Yeah. We don't have to workshop in this meeting, 
but just send send I do have a question for Patty  

984
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:54,400
though. I think you asked the 73 that we paid 
off. What did we spend that money on? That was  

985
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:59,760
a function. It was all reimburseable projects. 
So, it's going to be your CDBGDR projects,  

986
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:07,040
your HMGP projects, FEMA projects, and um 
SRF. Awesome. Let's just get that summary  

987
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:15,280
and write the details. Yes, ma'am. You 
want to see the invoices that we paid?

988
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:21,760
Yeah. Yeah. granular as you can get it without 
spending three years doing it. Okay. Okay. Next  

989
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:29,040
item 12 C. Right. Item 12 C is consideration to 
approve budget amendment resolution 20260825.1 to  

990
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:34,720
transfer $21,000 in funds received from local 
law enforcement agencies to the Panama City  

991
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:40,480
Police Department. As background information, 
in August of this year, the PCPD hosted an FBI  

992
01:49:40,480 --> 01:49:45,280
LITA leadership course attended by members 
of several local law enforcement agencies.  

993
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:51,200
The participating agencies reimbured the PCPD 
for their members course fees while the PCPD  

994
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:56,400
paid the full FBI lead a course invoice. The 
$21,000 received will be applied towards the  

995
01:49:56,400 --> 01:50:00,640
course invoice. Staff recommendation through 
the chief of police is that the commission  

996
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:04,960
approve this request and the accompanying budget 
amendment resolution. Mr. Mayor, I entertain a  

997
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:12,400
motion. Motion a second. Yep. Any discussion? 
Please call the role. Commissioner Street. Yes.  

998
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:18,480
Commissioner Hughes. Yes. Commissioner Granger. 
Yes. Mayor Branch. Yes. Motion passes 4 to zero.  

999
01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:24,800
Commission is approved. Resolution 2026825.1, 
a resolution providing for the amendment of the  

1000
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:30,160
approved fiscal year 2526 budget to receive 
reimbursement for training hosted at the  

1001
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:38,400
police department. Item 12D is consideration to 
approve resolution 20260825.2 2 authorizing the  

1002
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:43,760
city of Panama City to accept state funded uh 
grant for Frankfurt Avenue trail design in the  

1003
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:52,080
amount of $425,000 and approved budget amendment 
resolution 20260825.3. As background information,  

1004
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:56,000
the engineering division of the public works 
department is requesting approval of resolution  

1005
01:50:56,000 --> 01:51:03,280
20260825.2 2 authorizing the city to accept state 
funded grant managed by the FDOT for the design  

1006
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:08,160
and permitting of the Frankfurt Avenue trail from 
West Beach Drive to Pacifica Avenue, the northern  

1007
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:12,960
end of Frankfurt Avenue. The project will consist 
of a 12- foot multi-use path in areas where  

1008
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:19,520
existing pedestrian facilities do not exist and to 
address ADA non-compliance issues. Scope will also  

1009
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:24,160
include coordination with Bayine Railroad and 
review for a pedestrian bridge for crossing of  

1010
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:29,520
Robinson Bayou. Uh, no additional rightway will 
be required for this project and this project  

1011
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:34,480
does not require a match from city funds. Staff 
recommendation for the director of public works  

1012
01:51:34,480 --> 01:51:39,200
is that the commission approve this request. Mr. 
Mayor, there were a couple of questions that came  

1013
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:43,760
up during audience participation. I just highlight 
some of those really quick. The distance of this  

1014
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:49,920
path is 3.2 miles. That's a pretty substantial 
path. Um, there will be some drainage work and  

1015
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:55,040
and survey work that we need to do in order to 
make sure we don't create any uh off-site adverse  

1016
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:59,920
impacts on either the roads or people's front 
yards. Uh there will be some utility poles that  

1017
01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:05,120
need to be removed and relocated. Again, we'll 
have to survey all of this uh in order to ensure  

1018
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:09,920
that it's entirely within the ride ofway. Again, 
we're putting in an aluminum pedestrian bridge  

1019
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:16,720
uh at Robinson Bayou uh on the west side uh in 
order to keep folks off of the road. And again,  

1020
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:20,160
uh, there will be some storm water and 
drainage work for this. So again, staff  

1021
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:24,000
recommendation to director of public works is 
the commission approved this request. Mr. Mayor,  

1022
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:29,760
I will entertain a motion. Motion to approve. 
Second. Jonathan, the bridge, didn't that come  

1023
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:35,600
to some of that come through appropriation? So 
that's not all loan money, right? So this is a  

1024
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:39,360
totally separate from that. So, the actual bridge 
itself, you're correct, Commissioner Hughes,  

1025
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:47,840
we got about a $750,000 grant uh from the state 
in order to uh refurbish uh the uh and kind of  

1026
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:55,520
beef back up the the vehicle bridge uh over that. 
The construction of the actual pedestrian bridge  

1027
01:52:55,520 --> 01:53:01,200
will be paid for out of that. But this uh this 
particular design phase uh will cover kind of the  

1028
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:06,000
design of that and the and the civil engineering 
around it sticking uh that particular aluminum  

1029
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:11,440
bridge to the west side of the Robinson Bayou 
Bridge. Um but uh but the state appropriation  

1030
01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:16,320
will pay for it. Thank you. Yes, sir. For the 
public, the TPO was brought up. Um, and I kind of  

1031
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:23,200
wanted to clarify that the TPO is the local body, 
a 19 member board that is comprised of the county,  

1032
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:32,240
this city, and all of the other cities in the 
county. Um, the city can go seek out this uh  

1033
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:40,080
this grant if it wants to, but it also can go to 
the TPO and ask for support from the TPO. um the  

1034
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:47,120
TPO did support this project and then the state 
ultimately decided to reward it. So that's how  

1035
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:51,840
that works as any other city. I think Callaway's 
got some some pretty good projects through that  

1036
01:53:51,840 --> 01:54:03,040
process as well. Um the state had I think it was 
$88 million for sidewalks. Um but uh there's they  

1037
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:09,760
don't have a lot of extra money for roads. So, 
um, you put in for what you can get. Awesome.  

1038
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:16,320
All right. Any other discussion? Please call the 
RO. Commissioner Street, yes. Commissioner Hughes,  

1039
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:22,560
yes. Commissioner Granger, yes. Mayor Branch, yes. 
Motion passes four to zero. Motion to adjourn. No,  

1040
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:32,960
we have two resolutions. Mr. Zimmerman. Oh, boy. 
Sorry. No problem. I would like to. Thank you.  

1041
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:41,760
Uh, the commission has adopted resolution number 
20250825.2, a resolution of the city commission of  

1042
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:46,880
the city of Panama City authorizing the city to 
accept a state funed grant for Frankfurt Avenue  

1043
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:54,160
trail project to enter into the agreement and 
resolution 20260825.3, a resolution providing  

1044
01:54:54,160 --> 01:55:03,600
for the budgeting of capital funds. Thank you. 
Awesome. Oh, there's one more. One more. We got  

1045
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:08,000
a motion before. That was both of them. Both. You 
read both of them? Okay. We have a motion and a  

1046
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:12,480
second. Please call the RO. Commissioner Street. 
Yes. Commissioner Hughes. Yes. Commissioner  

1047
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:31,760
Granger. Yes. Mayor Branch. Yes. Motion 
passes four to zero. Thank you for attending.