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Welcome, all. This is the November, our county planning board meeting. And I'm already used to. It's five o'clock, so the number 21 will get started. Call the order and introductions. We have, can't handle all we have our new board member, Ellen Smith. Welcome. Back, park and Buckley and myself to cronly. Discussion of conflict of interest. Is there any conflict of interest? Is there any conflict of interest?

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interest for items on the agenda?

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No.

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Review and approval of minutes on the previous meeting.

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Do I have a motion to approve the October meeting minutes?

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So moved.

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We'll second that.

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Any discussion?

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All those in favor of approving the October meeting minutes.

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Please get the aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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No.

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We don't have scheduled public comments, so I'm going to open it up for public comment for items not on the agenda.

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If you have public comment for items not on the agenda, please come forward.

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Say your name and address anything

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online.

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Okay, closing public comment.

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We're going to move into action items, discussion decision on writing a letter of support for the Dairy Creek Ranch Conservation easement staff wants to provide.

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because I think it's correct. I think it's fairy and we've got written this theory and we

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tend to have it, but it's fairy and we've got it. Okay, very brief. Yeah, thank you.

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They're written next to each other on the keyboard. So, why do you, do you have a grid? We have folks,

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folks come forward. Yeah. Sit down in the hot seat again. I like it.

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I have a few written comments that I missed.

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to provide to you. My name is Kelsey Heizer and the County Project Manager for the

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Dalton Valley Land Trust. We are to present the very quick proposed conservation

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easement to tonight. For Montana Law, it requires that the local planning authority review

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proposed conservation easements and provide comments of an advisory nature regarding local planning

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in the county. This past spring we spoke with the city and county planning departments

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about this project and there were not any concerns that we were aware of at that time.

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And GVLT and the landowners both lead a disconsubation project alliance with the goals

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of the Park County Code and Policy to protect open lands agricultural lands while they've

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habitat and scenic views and to support agricultural landowners to volunteer

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a little background on conservation easements, their voluntary agreements between willing

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landowners and land trusts that permanently protect open lands by retreating development

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and subdivision of a property.

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They're also rooted in private property rights and are a non-regulatory tool to protect

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open space and prevent sprawled.

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I want to extend a special thank you to Robert for Concert who is in the audience tonight

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for conserving his historic property to protect the scenic views and the

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Reggie Heritage of Park County. A few highlights about the project. The proposed

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conservation easement is 500 or 546 acres just north east of Livingston.

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Historically it's been known as the Ebert Ranch. The property is registered on

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the list of national and historic places and is attributed to Livingston's

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agricultural roots. The deeds of the, or the terms of the conservation use indeed have

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no subdivisions are allowed on an operating, one building on the loke in the southeast corner,

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this where all structures will be contained. Commercial activities are limited to those that are

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related to agriculture, recreation, and education, and no surface or gravel mining, it's going to be

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a lot of work. So I just want to thank you for taking the time to review this project and

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and we're just asking if you can provide us any comments

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and if you have any questions.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I'll open it up for board questions,

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comments.

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If that was really interesting to me closely,

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that was well done.

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It was helpful to have the history and the background

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and the landowner's agreeing to do.

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And it seemed like it was roughly presented.

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One thing you've read.

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Thank you.

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I move that we read letters for.

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No time wasted.

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I second that. All right. Any board discussion?

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All those in favor say aye.

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I pose motion passes. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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So you will put together a letter.

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Okay,

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moving along, we'll now get into our subdivision, minor subdivision review.

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I mean, it makes it up a little bit, but I just wanted to give a sense of people,

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or give people a sense of how we're going to proceed.

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We're going to start off with an applicant presentation.

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At that time, the applicant will present, give us an overview.

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you can ask questions of the applicant. Then we move into the staff report, again, time to ask questions. Then I'll open it up for public comment.

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Those public comment will go to board deliberation. Again, still time to ask questions.

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Going to reviewing findings and conditions.

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at that time, we get to ask a lot of questions and we'll also evaluate

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further challenges at that time and then move into a board recommendation.

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Sound good?

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So I'll go ahead and invite the applicant up for their presentation.

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Hello, good to see you guys again.

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Gary Box, Stone Gym Group, I'm a civil engineer working on a project.

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Kyle and Wendy Tager here, the property owners, nice to see you guys and meet some of

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you guys yesterday out of the site.

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Thank you for not making too much fun of me for forgetting my coat, I'm still a little

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bit of better stuff.

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Yes, I've been helping with the process, Dylan is online, he's my colleague and he's helped

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also more of the planning side, covenants and legal stuff, I'm a civil engineer and try

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I've got to play that role sometimes too, but he's online helping.

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Yeah, I'll go through this presentation.

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I'm not going to be too long. I'll try to not make it too boring.

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I'm some of the stuff you saw yesterday so there's not a whole lot of new information here.

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It's an existing price, so it's 6.55 acres, it's not 8.55 acres.

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It currently has an agricultural restriction, so development, you can't build a home one.

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You cannot put water sanitary facilities or build a home on the property because that restriction. So to lift that restriction, we have to go through the minor suburbs of process.

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And that's what we've been doing now. The plan is to build one single family home on the property.

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So a little history and I'm sorry for the image here, but it might understand properties created in 1979.

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and it was 8.3 acres. Originally, it was a bigger, culturally restricted property. I'm

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not sure exactly why it was created. Four years ago, in 2021, it was split into two,

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and this was before the colon owners. A little piece was split off the south end,

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which is actually south of the Mill Creek Road, and that's what's highlighted there in blue.

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So the current property that we're talking about is 6.55 acres, it's on the north side of

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the Millicric Road.

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It's got the restriction.

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That's it.

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There.

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It's right at the mouth of the canyon, as you saw yesterday, there's an existing unimproved

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road that drives way that goes into the lot.

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We walked up it.

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It's at about 10% grade.

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We've coordinated with County County Mike and the Rose Department. We've got a road work permits.

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Sorry, they should say permits, so the project has been obtained to improve the approach.

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The county standards will be covered there.

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Yeah, and that'll be put in as part of the requirements.

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Yeah, fire protection. It's in the Paris Valley Fire District and one of our coverage areas.

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Those are just excerpts from the from the maps. We submit a fire protection plan with the preliminary plan application.

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The home will have internal sprinklers for fire suppression.

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Emergency access is required into the site that includes a turnaround for emergency vehicles at the home site.

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And some vegetative management, things in the building corridor that will clear some of the vegetation, just for wildfire protection stuff.

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Water insurers, we've been working with the DQ state.

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It's a state permit application for the sanitary stuff for the, so go through DQ subdivision review.

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We need to get a coast of a certificate of sufficient approval or the on site water sewer and storm water on water is a new well sewer is a standard drain field on septic system and then storm water is on site two storm water ponds.

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So we've been working with the queue over the past six months.

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We submit an application to them, they have some comments and then we address some comments and have come back for them a couple of times and we're at a point now where they're good with this and but there they won't issue their final approval until.

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Pretty soon, I think until the commissioners meet and approve it because that's the last condition, I guess.

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Yeah, that's it there. Environmental, sorry on my other words, I'll show up like that.

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There's the irrigation ditch that goes through the property. It kind of splits the property into two.

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We saw it yesterday.

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The all the building and all the development is south. It's kind of down below that irrigation ditch. There's no plans to touch that.

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It's under easement. We cannot touch it. They have to allow continued access maintenance to that. So that's been plan.

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We spent we management plan as part of the preliminary plan application. You probably know a lot of this stuff talked to the weed district.

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Yeah. Thanks.

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So I on the on my staff report that we got.

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We understand there's a series of covenants that will be reported as a formal document with the final plan and that those include those in that list.

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It's just to protect the property and regulate some of the use single-family residential

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mineral rights.

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You can read through those, I guess, or ask every question on those, but we will provide

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those components with final flat.

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Yeah, this is just kind of my extra slide, but we've been working on a file for a long time.

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We're actually submitted this preliminary plan application on January, and it's been a long process, and it's

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Not necessarily because of complexity of this. It's fairly simple. We're not creating any new lots

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It's just it's an existing lot. We're not changing any lot of lines. We had a couple delays

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From our end and it's been a long process for Kyle to realize that he's the owns of you know, they don't be properly. They got to

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I've lived this restriction via minor subdivision and so we've learned a long way but we've learned

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a lot about property and I think we've done this in a sensitive and tough way and are stepping

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through all the regulations and yeah, that's kind of a drone image and isometric image at the

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side on top and the bottom is just an excerpt from a slope map where we looked at the degree

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of the slopes on site for sighting. Some of the improvements for sighting, the turnaround,

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you can see that the T turn around there on the bottom kind of, and then the drain field.

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Yeah, I did want to say there is residential use both downstream and upstream

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adjacent and I think across the road. So residential use here is not a precedent.

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and there's some.

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I mean, we're getting into the canyon.

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Now, you know, it's limited,

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but there's room here.

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There's six nap acres.

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Although it's not all debuffables,

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you know, a few acres south of below the ditch,

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but there's other residential use upstream and downstream.

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So I think this makes sense in that scenario.

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We're not building the old nation, you know, the only house there.

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That's my presentation. Thank you. Thank you. Questions from the board. This would be the opportunity to ask questions with the applicant.

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I'm just curious, that infrared or the one with a slope is something that wasn't an original packet.

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Some of the color coding on that was just the intensity of the slope.

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or correct. Yeah, it was a CAD program to kind of analyze the survey contours and it's kind

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of cool. We make it on a lot of slope sites to make sure we have the drain field, you know,

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in the right spots. I wasn't able to go to the site visit yesterday. So does this keep

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parcels go span across the Elbow Creek Road? Good question. Elbow Creek Road does

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uh, bisect the property in the, what is the last or the northwest corner, just the corner of it will go to the, and so they do have access to the road also.

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Do they need to then give an easement for that road? Is that elbow Creek? Is that a county road? It's an easement. I believe it's a private road. I want to say, but it is an easement.

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The access of the trail head, right?

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Is that the right, the hay road I'm thinking of?

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No, it's still okay.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Access is a private property.

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Norse,

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probably thinking of a different elbow, brick road that's in the same area.

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Two years.

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Two years.

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You've got a couple of easements that you have to deal with on the property.

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One is, easements will allow access for irrigation, the irrigation pitch for maintenance and anything

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of the folks who have the water rights to that.

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So they need to have access.

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And that's a permutative treatment.

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And then easing on the other end or other road.

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Yes.

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So you've got to those are just, you have to deal with her.

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Two existing easements as far as I understand.

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I don't think there's any new easements.

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But it's just those two existing easements.

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Here, I think there's an easement for our line too.

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Oh, right.

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Oh, right.

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That's right.

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Thanks.

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Questions.

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Thank you.

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So now let's go to Dr. Ford.

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Do you mind really quick?

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I know so there was that.

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And I myself were at the site being yesterday.

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And he's been just also discussed.

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What in lifting that exemption?

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So currently under state law.

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We deal with subdivisions and we deal with divisions.

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Divisions are exempt from review as a subdivision, and only certain divisions qualify as a subdivision.

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One of the exemptions is an agricultural exemption, and you can create a parcel for use for agricultural purposes only,

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and you are not required to go through subdivision review to do that.

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When you do that, you'll create a parcel that has sanitary restrictions on it, and under state law,

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The only way to lift that agricultural exemption is to aggregate it back into the original

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tract or that's not an option, you can go through subdivision review in order to lift it.

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So it's kind of like going through subdivision review for the division that took place some

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time ago.

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So you're looking for the potential impacts under the criteria.

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So in this case, the only option was for them to go through subdivision review because

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because it could have aggregated back into that parent tract.

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Okay, I'll try not to duplicate too much.

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This has been reviewed under the 2010 per county subdivision regulations.

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And as I like to tell folks, even though the regulations are outdated,

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we still have to adhere to current statute, both in process and our considerations.

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The recommendation that I provided with the findings, conditions,

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and the proposed report is approval.

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finding board has the authority to either prove, conditionally prove or deny if you do amend any portion of that we can do that through this process so if you want to add findings, conditions, any modifications to the report, I know there's some editorial findings that I've already

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located through this process. So feel free as we're going through it. I'll have it up on the screen. So any changes to it. Let me know.

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I'll skip over some of the visuals timing and authority.

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Want to be the delays that they spoke to. Let's get into the elements efficiency review. There were several of those element review.

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of the end is to make sure that all of the required elements are in the application and

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sufficient seed requires that I look at the preliminary platforms contents and something

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that's handled out to determine if the information that they've provided is sufficient for

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the group, and that one can take some time.

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As you'll see here, we're meeting for the board today and then the County Commissioner will

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review this at 10 a.m. on the 10th of December.

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There are not proposed in any variance requests,

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variances type of film form, access issues, road grade,

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slope, things like that.

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Our subdivision regulations do identify

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the cannot build on slopes greater than 25%.

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They have built slopes that are less than 80%

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and they've identified the max grade for the access driveway

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would be 10% which is a subdivision.

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So, when we get into the review criteria and I can provide just a basic summary of each

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of these and then you guys can ask any questions that you have and then I did do this a little

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different than previous staff reports where I used to create the narrative and then had

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the entire table of all the five institutions and one, but I've actually broken it into each

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separate criteria, so both not only do I have a narrative under the criteria for impacts

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agriculture. But as we go down, it'll jump right into the proposed findings and conditions.

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So when it comes to impacts agriculture, the application, or the sub-divided did a good job

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of identifying agriculture production in the area. This particular property has not been used

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for any agriculture production. Even though it was created under an ag exemption, it does not

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necessarily mean that they have to produce any kind of agricultural product. The problem,

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There is some agriculture in the area and specifically to the west and south of the property,

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that particular ranch raises livestock.

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The areas to the immediate west, immediate east and to the north are not in agricultural

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production.

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The ranch to the west is bisected, both by Milk Creek and Milk Creek Road.

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Mill Creek Road is under utilized in terms of the amount of daily traffic trips that can have that particular portion of the Mill Creek Road is paid.

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And so the daily traffic trips are in the thousands that are going to accommodate and right now the average daily traffic trip based on the last empty T-report was 242.

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So adding one residential structure would add up to daily traffic trips based on engineering analysis.

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So, one of the things that you'll see in our subdivision regulations under chapter three

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for first minors is we have criteria subsections of the criteria questions that you have

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to address, which is what I tried to do here.

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And so, it's not identified as prime farmland under the NRCS web soil survey, which they provided

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the further application. And so my finding was the impacts that

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agricultural will be met.

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And any questions on that particular. So under

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the recommended findings,

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this was the one finding I had no

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recommended conditions to mitigate impacts to have more of an

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alteration. Oh, sorry. One question. What are we getting into the

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questions or the I mean. Oh, no, sorry, just questions if you have any questions. Yeah, so just

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questions invited. Not at its end. Okay, my question is in the impact to agriculture. I don't

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see anywhere that it's addressed that they understand open range laws that they understand that

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Farmers don't quit at dark, always, and the punks and things make noise.

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How would that be, would those questions be addressed?

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So if the board, when you get into your discussion after you've heard from the public, after

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you've gone through any questions you have at the report, then you have every right to three

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discussions come up with the modifications of the report, those could be the form of additional

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findings.

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and for additional conditions. You do have to have binding attached to a condition.

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You do have to reference specific information for your life. You'll have that opportunity.

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Well, I was just going to say as someone who operates a farm on his property, a big advocate for

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agricultural use of land and having visited the land. I would say that the aerial imagery

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and topographic maps don't do justice how slow the property is now rocky it is it just doesn't seem

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like it'd be fit for any kind of agricultural production given that just the label it

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you know

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condition on hand so impacts agricultural water facilities so as they presented there's a irrigation

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facility and part of an area which running by second property I'll go off the milk creek that the

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The head gate is some distance from the property.

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They do not have water rights associated

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with that irrigation facility,

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but other down stream users do.

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There is an easement identified to rule 71 page 64.

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It allows for online access and maintenance

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of that irrigation facility.

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So in terms of impacts, I think there's kind of two poll,

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There's impacts that additional human presence of the former residential structure could have on that very

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patient facility from the recreation and construction. They have identified that they are no

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plastic construct within that easement. So they've located the house, septic well drain field, turn around,

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access driveway, all outside of the education easement. So impacts will be minimal based on construction.

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and then impacts from the irrigation facility

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to potential roadway, driveway,

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the structure itself.

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They did inspect the,

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they identified that they inspected

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the irrigation facility found no current issues

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with the structure or a seedage or leaking.

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That's not to say that it couldn't happen in the future.

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It will have to do with storm drainage.

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And I know that the applicant's terrain site

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is indicated that they were planning on doing some work

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to stabilize that.

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So I don't think that was in the applications,

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so that would be a better fine question.

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I

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think that's about it in terms of just an overview

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of the impacts to our use facilities.

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I did identify the existing easement and the location of the infrastructure outside of that easement.

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I think

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I may have read this in the documentation, but whose responsibility is to maintain the irrigation ditch.

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Well, there's the ditch underwriter and it's, this is the milk creek, so yeah, it would be the Milk Creek Water Research Association.

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Leave now.

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Just to follow up on that question.

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Is it clear the applicant that that maintenance wouldn't prevent.

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Seepage that it would just be to move water.

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Yeah, it's clear to us that I'm guessing that we have seen things that they're going to want to deal with that issue and we're going to want to work with them.

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There's all.

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But the, and just a follow-up.

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Yeah, when you clear that the irrigation district doesn't pool by ability with regard to.

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We're kind of in our house in a way that water does get out of the ditch, it doesn't affect us through the drainage system, and I'm quite remembering all of them about patients.

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I mean, go through the channel, go through the ditch to get what water you say. Yeah, that's their interest. And so they'll maintain it. And should that, to that extent, but they're not necessarily if there's a little bit of seepage that doesn't really affect how much water they're able to access for ad. You know, but it's something that could really compromise a structure that's those are two different sets of interests in a way. I mean, I know that's really not more of a comment than a question, but it just seems like I can see two different sets of interest.

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interest on that, that they think, oh yeah, it's fine with this water, and, you know,

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then it's compromised the house. So, and we can't kill all the go-over.

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I guess, Niano. So, anyway, yeah, I can just see that there could be possible, there could be

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hospital, she's in spend trust with people, other questions.

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Is this the final and later in the college?

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Yeah.

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Is it the time to ask about just to be with the reinforcement,

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potentially reinforcement was mentioned yesterday of that area that's not in the application?

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So you wouldn't do we ask?

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Probably more in the discussion to get into hospital.

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So, impacts to local services, this includes impacts to the local service capacity, sheriff,

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fire department, emergency medical services, grid, bridges, culverts, cattle, our school,

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solid waste facilities, waste water facilities, so they're included in the park County Sheriff's

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jurisdiction. They're in the Paradise Valley Fire Department.

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Merge Smith services will be facilitated through a road approach

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for a permit and a road approach that meets county standards, a driveway

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that meets county standards. And because the driveways over 150 keep

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length, they're required to have a turnaround, which they propose

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that meets the county standards in the form of a T turnaround

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access the property.

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No new roads or bridges are being impacted or proposed as

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part of this. There's no new facilities on Mill Creek road

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that will be necessary to facilitate access.

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They will be putting in a culvert as part of the road approach.

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There's no cattle guards.

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They're in the arrowhead school district.

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They've identified the number of schools currently in that district, the number that they can facilitate before they have to hire new teachers.

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They've identified the potential based on a formula of one to two additional students with this one residential structure, one residential lot.

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And then they've identified kind of the capacity, current capacity of the Sheriff's Department.

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and they've identified the current and anticipated tax revenues.

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Currently, the answer about the land is generating $3,500 and $41.20

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and they anticipate an increase of $5,000 less properties to build the new residents.

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In fact, the county road is minimal.

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Like I said, the low creek road to that to this property and actually just beyond is paid.

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And so they've identified the addition of 10 daily traffic trips.

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And right now, the current capacity or the current level is the 247,

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if that's the annual daily traffic trips, and milk reconsisting substantially more than that,

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given paving about section.

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So I've identified several findings, no recommended conditions to mitigate.

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Oh, in terms of any new public infrastructure,

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no anticipated, neither wastewater, water facilities needed,

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they're proposing individual onsite wastewater and water facilities.

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Any questions on impacts on local services?

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And now I should have said to on off the presses,

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as I did get the local fire protection authority who reviewed the fire protection plan with the

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private vice-valid, the firm and assistant team, Michael Garcia, and they did approve the

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evening of water supply requirements, because they've proposed a fire protection plan and

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these are completely alternative technologies, features, and systems, and so the local fire protection

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authority can approve those as long as they meet the equivalent of the rate of the fire protection

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for the property. So we did get that letter I dropped it off for each of you.

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So it impacts the

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natural environment. A lot of impacts from natural environment, due with construction, solar

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instruments, refrigeration, speed of weeds, the potential to find historic cultural sites on the

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property or pay the biological, archaeological, one of the things that they produced was a letter

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from the State Historic Preservation Office. They usually will do a file search.

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They did find a few sites within that quadrant that they looked at but none associated with this site

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and they did not recommend the cultural end to worry. For this site, they didn't think that there

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is highly likely that anything will be powered.

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That's not to say that if, during construction,

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those things were found, then that could change,

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definitely change that potential impact.

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And I did try to address that with recommended condition.

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The effects on groundwater quality

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want to be this has kind of been a big issue.

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I shouldn't go back to effects on their quality

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with one additional residential structure,

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mineral impacts to air quality,

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and that's one, frankly,

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it's very difficult to ascertain.

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That's a groundwater quality quantity.

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So because this property was created

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prior to, until the first 2013,

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is qualified for one example allocation.

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That allocation cannot exceed 10 entropy per year or 35 gallons per bed.

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One residential structure does not generate even close to 10 entropy per year.

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Most calculations are less than 2 entropy per year for residential structure with some irrigation in the area.

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The identified wells in the area through well-locked data, they identified specific information

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relative to each well in the area, depth of groundwater, how many gallons per minute.

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They have a letter from the health department, Caleb Pearson, our former sanatorium indicating

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that there appears to be adequate water for the property.

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They do have to go through review

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through DEQ and DEQ will have to determine

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a potability of that water, but one of the issues

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that we've found ourselves in with the

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Resurri waterkeepers decision relative to

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the rest of Montana, that order does not

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specifically apply to our county, we do not

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have to follow that order, but there are

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implications for that. And so one of the things

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that they say counties need to be looking at is

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water quality, is it codable, water quantity, how much water is there, is it's

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sufficient for the proposed subdivision, and then impacts of that water use on

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full surface water in the area and groundwater area. They did provide a lot of

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information relative to water in the area, depth to groundwater, and it is a

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in the military. But at this time, without a hydrologist working for per counting with our limited time

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to review this, we did not have the ability to hire a hydrologist to conduct that level of analysis.

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So one of the findings that I write in here or at least in a narrative form is that we have no way

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of knowing for certain whether the proposal will include adequate water service with the

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closing of the family residents. However, the ground water data in the area does illustrate

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that there's a likelihood that there will be adequate water for that. The reason I did not

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condition the subdivision to do a test well or something to that fact is because whatever that

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information generated would not be available for the public right now to review.

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And so one of the issues when you're reviewing subdivisions is that it's right to know.

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So by condition or weak condition, something that's going to take place later,

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it's going to provide additional information that you can't see. It could trigger a review for that

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particular item.

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There are the applicants did indicate that there are no wetlands associated with

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property.

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There could be an impact in the ambient exterior light

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level, resulting from a new structure. In the valley, there could be

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effects on historic or prehistoric sites. I talked about the letter from

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state historic liberation office. And so you'll see here that

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in the impact or the findings and conditions, I identify the need for

451
00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:41,410
for the lead management plan, right kind of approval,

452
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:44,050
and make ensuring that the lot order will adhere

453
00:40:44,050 --> 00:40:45,450
to that lead management plan.

454
00:40:46,130 --> 00:40:47,490
Talking about soil disturbance

455
00:40:47,490 --> 00:40:49,030
and the need to re-vegetate,

456
00:40:49,110 --> 00:40:50,970
which is required under the subdivision regulations,

457
00:40:51,730 --> 00:40:55,370
and then making sure that that is weed-free.

458
00:40:57,610 --> 00:41:03,530
Talk about the need for them to recede to 70%.

459
00:41:04,110 --> 00:41:07,810
We also recommend that they work with MSU

460
00:41:07,810 --> 00:41:18,430
extension to find out which what's the best way to receive. That's one of those

461
00:41:18,430 --> 00:41:21,610
things that people don't realize but when you dig in a road or dig in a foundation

462
00:41:21,610 --> 00:41:26,690
and do any artwork, any kind, you will have weeds and so re-vegetations are really

463
00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:31,330
important. They'll have to reach 70% or show that they've reached 70% before they

464
00:41:31,330 --> 00:41:35,970
gets filed about approval, talk about the impacts

465
00:41:35,970 --> 00:41:38,650
of new construction to some of the cultural historical sites

466
00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:42,070
and then just making them file a covenant that says

467
00:41:42,070 --> 00:41:43,950
if during the verification, the project,

468
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:47,670
if anything is found, they contact the appropriate agencies

469
00:41:48,310 --> 00:41:50,610
and stuff construction at that time.

470
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:57,720
Talking about the need for that to be reviewed

471
00:41:58,240 --> 00:41:59,820
by the Department of Environmental Quality

472
00:41:59,820 --> 00:42:01,600
and approved prior to filed about approval,

473
00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:08,480
what Gary referenced, which they're being reviewed under two parts of state law,

474
00:42:08,740 --> 00:42:12,140
they're under the subdivision planning act and they're under the sanitation and subdivision act,

475
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,780
and they can apply for both at the same time. And so they'll put in their DEQ application,

476
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:22,760
they'll put in their preliminary file application, and DEQ will usually work through initial comments

477
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:28,120
and feedback, but they won't grant approval until they receive preliminary file approved from the county.

478
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:33,940
And then the county will not really will not grant final approval until they receive that approval to be cute.

479
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:36,620
So that does kind of happen in tandem.

480
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,160
Identify the combined appropriation law that they're being held to.

481
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:50,600
That they have to comply with that 1987 combined appropriation, which means that they.

482
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,660
When they apply for their example, well, if they cannot use more than that 1080p per year or

483
00:42:56,660 --> 00:43:02,940
if they, I mean, this is different.

484
00:43:03,580 --> 00:43:05,180
This happened while this is being reviewed.

485
00:43:05,420 --> 00:43:11,100
It used to be that they would go to DNRC and file for example, well, declaration and get

486
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,760
a predetermination letter from DNRC.

487
00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:17,680
DNRC is now going to provide those at the time of development, so it's up to do that, but

488
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,820
it'll be after the site division.

489
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,780
And it was a rule created by DQ

490
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:26,480
and through the administrative rules of Montana,

491
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,880
DQ did re-vise that rule just the last couple of months.

492
00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:34,820
So it's different.

493
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:48,080
Mineral rights, just making sure the owners are informed

494
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,880
that there are no mineral rights being transferred.

495
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,680
And so it is unknown if there may be impacts

496
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,560
with mineral rights, surface rights,

497
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:04,140
separate ownership in the future. And then my last one I talk about the lighting.

498
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:05,480
Any

499
00:44:09,130 --> 00:44:12,470
questions on that one?

500
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:28,040
So on Jay, on the residential ambient exterior lighting, the chapter 3, there's regulations

501
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,320
for outdoor lighting.

502
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:37,280
So, one of the things that changed in how we reduce subdivisions back in 2021 is when

503
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:42,360
you're renewing subdivision, if you make a finding and you have a condition, you have

504
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:48,480
to have reference to specific regulation or provision something that justifies that

505
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:48,880
finding.

506
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:53,120
So what I tried to do in all of my findings is reference where the subdivision regulations

507
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,560
are where in their application that justification comes from.

508
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,960
So we know.

509
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,420
We're going to have specific design standards relative to lighting, but we do have criteria that we have to consider the impacts of lighting.

510
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:20,580
I'm not sure where this question will fall into, it kind of looks like the internal

511
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:21,960
contradiction.

512
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,060
In some of it has to do with natural environment.

513
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,060
It has to do with the noxious weeds and invasive weeds so that they need ADC and D.

514
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,960
They have to come up with work with regeneration but also work with.

515
00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:37,560
You can fold forward in the readmator.

516
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:45,940
But then it seems like, and so I think that 70% of getting

517
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,360
re-vegetation in the application that it's a native re-vegetation,

518
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,280
re-vegetation, again, that's compatible, that's not weak.

519
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,500
But then, and this is getting into the next section,

520
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,480
I don't know when we bring this up, but the impact on wildlife

521
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:10,900
but at top of the number, it is the city, it looks like, oh, the government is all

522
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:14,400
landscape, you should be encouraged to be in price for plant species that do not attract wildlife.

523
00:46:14,820 --> 00:46:19,480
Well, you know, a lot of native plant species attract wildlife, but if you're asking folks to

524
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:26,580
re-vegetate, which, you know, re-vegetate and be careful with weed, you know, the plan for weed,

525
00:46:26,580 --> 00:46:28,340
I mean, but then you're also talking about

526
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,820
the principle of not attracting the loud live.

527
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:32,760
It just seemed like it was an issue.

528
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:35,640
It just needed contradiction or any clarification

529
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,040
in some sort of example by explaining something.

530
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,360
And again, it's because it's the next section.

531
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,420
I don't know if we want to talk about that now.

532
00:46:42,620 --> 00:46:43,640
That was my question.

533
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,160
I just looked at that.

534
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,600
It wasn't clear to me.

535
00:46:48,580 --> 00:46:49,380
Yeah, I mean,

536
00:46:51,180 --> 00:46:54,160
I think that there are two separate issues,

537
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,480
but I think you're probably right that there might be some.

538
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:04,820
internal conflict with that. I don't know in working with RCS if what they're proposing in terms

539
00:47:04,820 --> 00:47:11,160
of re-vegetation and a project like this would include vegetation that's an attractant. I think

540
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,760
the wildlife attractant is really geared towards. If you go to Emmett, so you'll see that that's

541
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:21,780
references him as well. Right, exactly. And because what they're going to tell them is don't grow

542
00:47:21,780 --> 00:47:29,060
apple trees and fruit trees and the things that really do bring in wildlife to that degree.

543
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:37,080
But I don't know if what MSU is providing in terms of their recommendations

544
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:44,440
crosses over into re vegetation through soil disturbance. Or if there's a conflict.

545
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:54,320
So we need to, I mean, you hold, okay, hold on, I'm going to hold on to that, okay.

546
00:47:57,650 --> 00:48:04,990
So as far as impacts to wildlife, if I identify the impacts, wildlife should be, will

547
00:48:04,990 --> 00:48:09,150
be minimal, given only one new structure being proposed.

548
00:48:10,550 --> 00:48:13,070
There's a two track right now that will be improved.

549
00:48:15,490 --> 00:48:16,250
The

550
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:33,060
Montana Natural Heritage Programs Online Management School does not show this as a critical wildlife corridor or critical wildlife habitat or identified associated with any endangered or threatened species.

551
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,860
I do think there's wildlife in the area.

552
00:48:36,860 --> 00:48:41,840
So, I think that, you know, from a perspective, we're trying to mitigate impacts.

553
00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:49,220
The attractants bring in an attracting supply life, as well as, you know, any future disturbance

554
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:54,340
of the property would be, would probably increase the impacts.

555
00:48:55,380 --> 00:49:02,340
So I think the fact that they've identified one structure, that's it, about six and a half

556
00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:04,600
acres, should help minimize that.

557
00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:09,440
It did not hear from FWP.

558
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,780
This has been a question that's come up several times when somebody subdivides.

559
00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:19,660
They send letters to different agencies and they expect a response.

560
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:25,860
Some of those agencies respond, some do not, including some of the VAR own agencies in the

561
00:49:25,860 --> 00:49:26,240
warehouse.

562
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:31,200
So it gets really difficult, but it doesn't mean that the applicant doesn't have to do their

563
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:31,820
own analysis.

564
00:49:32,780 --> 00:49:41,960
In this case, they did look at the different programs available to identify whether this

565
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,960
is critical wildlife habitat, similar to what they do with air culture, so they can conduct

566
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:47,760
their own analysis.

567
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:55,360
We do not have the ability to hold up some division per se, if an agency is not receiving

568
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,220
it, but sometimes they just don't.

569
00:49:57,220 --> 00:49:58,060
So,

570
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:06,720
you'll see that in some of the, one of the other impacts with wildlife is just

571
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:12,220
complex a lot of impacts wildlife people, those complex landscaping garbage

572
00:50:12,220 --> 00:50:20,260
containers, wildlife movement, things like that, and then impacts of pets wildlife

573
00:50:20,260 --> 00:50:21,260
and wildlife habitat.

574
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:30,160
So, in addition to the impacts on ag, which a lot of active producers will tell you that dogs

575
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,740
chasing their livestock and their significant impact with new development in the area.

576
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:40,140
And so the way these folks have chosen to mitigate that is to limit the number of dogs to two,

577
00:50:40,660 --> 00:50:45,520
which have to be under control all times. And that was through sufficiency review that they finally

578
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:51,160
landed on that. It didn't end up in the summary of the impacts, but I think I did incorporate

579
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,480
that email and provided that to you guys so you can see that that's what they were planning

580
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,580
to address that.

581
00:51:01,850 --> 00:51:09,330
They do have to do a storm, a storm water plan that has to be engineered

582
00:51:09,330 --> 00:51:15,110
has to meet the requirements of the use circular eight. And so that will minimize erosion

583
00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:20,210
during storm runoff, especially when you look at the improved areas, the driveway,

584
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:21,990
house location, things like that.

585
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,420
And so while that habitat, our regulations are older than where

586
00:51:32,420 --> 00:51:37,120
they don't, they don't differentiate, understand a lot now, there's the impacts of wildlife

587
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:42,520
and wildlife have that. So our criteria and our regulations kind of cover both in the same

588
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,120
and the same breath.

589
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,060
I do have a question on the impact of the habitat. Under A, it says

590
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:59,320
with the construction of five as the infrastructure. That was a mistake. Okay, so I've got a change

591
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,500
and I have to assume it is one request I'm just going to start.

592
00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:01,920
Okay.

593
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,100
I just know there's a mission.

594
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:05,420
Alright.

595
00:52:10,140 --> 00:52:16,320
And then I'll miss one to describe it not just sweet, but I referenced the conditions so

596
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,040
I didn't have to duplicate.

597
00:52:21,370 --> 00:52:23,450
Any questions on wildlife or habitat

598
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,040
impact the public health and safety?

599
00:52:32,860 --> 00:52:38,460
So generally speaking, the hazards that have been identified by the applicants through

600
00:52:38,460 --> 00:52:40,980
their analysis, have to do with the irrigation facility,

601
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,640
both impact from the facility to a owner,

602
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,120
and then as well as how owners impact the irrigation facility.

603
00:52:51,180 --> 00:52:52,860
And again, this is kind of duplicated,

604
00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:55,480
but it does show that they're outside of that irrigation facility.

605
00:52:55,660 --> 00:52:59,420
They are building the consideration of that facility.

606
00:53:02,310 --> 00:53:05,790
Other impacts, public health and safety, traffic access.

607
00:53:06,310 --> 00:53:08,650
They are improving the access for the mid-county standards

608
00:53:08,650 --> 00:53:13,350
to help improve emergency service response.

609
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:17,730
They'll create, can handle the increase

610
00:53:17,730 --> 00:53:18,930
of 10 daily traffic trips,

611
00:53:19,130 --> 00:53:21,490
given the current volume and the design of that road.

612
00:53:23,470 --> 00:53:25,930
Out of fires, it's pretty significant hazard

613
00:53:25,930 --> 00:53:27,690
I don't know if for those of us on site,

614
00:53:28,090 --> 00:53:30,150
if you want an example of the definition

615
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:33,570
of a wildland urban interface, this will be it.

616
00:53:34,350 --> 00:53:35,350
And so they're in the Paradise Valley

617
00:53:35,350 --> 00:53:42,010
a fire district or regulations require a fill site and so if this was a one lot minor they

618
00:53:42,010 --> 00:53:46,490
would have to put in a 10,000 gallon water supply also under our regulations or the

619
00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:53,630
appendix be they can they can propose alternative technology features and systems and so if you

620
00:53:53,630 --> 00:53:59,170
looked at their fire protection plan they're requiring a subscription system in the home they've got a

621
00:53:59,170 --> 00:54:04,030
lot of maintenance and vegetation clearing that they're going to do around the structure building

622
00:54:04,030 --> 00:54:10,110
the structure out of fire system materials, improving access, and then they've identified

623
00:54:10,110 --> 00:54:13,950
ongoing maintenance, making sure the vegetation is cleared along the access routes.

624
00:54:15,390 --> 00:54:19,470
So there's quite a bit that went into that. That was submitted and approved by the

625
00:54:19,470 --> 00:54:24,230
local fire protection authority as an alternative. The self-surpassion systems are

626
00:54:25,470 --> 00:54:30,450
structured fire, and then the survival of all the potential space provisions that they're proposing

627
00:54:30,450 --> 00:54:33,590
and help minimize and mitigate the threat of wildfire

628
00:54:33,590 --> 00:54:35,450
or from a structure of our spreading

629
00:54:35,450 --> 00:54:37,510
or wildfire spreading to the structure.

630
00:54:40,180 --> 00:54:41,380
And just from a practical perspective,

631
00:54:41,380 --> 00:54:43,000
I think it's a really good idea

632
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,320
that they're doing what they're doing.

633
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,780
Our vice-valley, our district is some distance away,

634
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,060
and so given the response time,

635
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,500
it really does impact even if there is a fill site there.

636
00:54:59,540 --> 00:55:01,480
Oh, question, Mike, just thinking about

637
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:08,340
when you've done a similar process with a different minor and then that we had to redo it basically,

638
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:15,620
the fire suppression system was never installed. What is the follow-up? Like, how do we not,

639
00:55:15,860 --> 00:55:23,360
how does that not happen again? Well, I don't know that we've come up with that answer yet

640
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:29,920
in terms of definitive. I think that when we update our subdivision regulations, that's going to be

641
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:45,760
part of what we're going to be looking at is whether or not we're going to be able to continue to allow for those types of alternative because we don't have building codes. There's no way for us to inspect and then guarantee that those were put in place as perfect construction.

642
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:51,320
So what he is referring to is somebody proposes a plan similar to this.

643
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:57,520
It gets approved, property sales, somebody buys it, builds a house, no fire,

644
00:55:58,060 --> 00:55:59,280
self suppression system in the home.

645
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:03,940
And so our ability to enforce that is limited.

646
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,940
Although there are examples in state Montana where enforcement has

647
00:56:11,300 --> 00:56:18,140
prevent effective in terms of a house being removed or retrofitted with that system.

648
00:56:19,580 --> 00:56:23,240
But because we don't have a building code, we're not there at the right time to say,

649
00:56:23,540 --> 00:56:24,780
you've got to do this, you've got to do that.

650
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:29,360
We're not going to give you your next round of permits to continue construction that kind.

651
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,700
So I think we're going to be limited and we're going to have to have that discussion.

652
00:56:33,860 --> 00:56:36,260
But that's over the consideration on this as well.

653
00:56:38,260 --> 00:56:42,740
I might have a question about a statement in the summary, in reference to the irrigation

654
00:56:42,740 --> 00:56:46,000
facility that says providing access for maintenance and repairs will be essential to

655
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:51,540
keeping the irrigation facility in good working condition, is that been, you know, analyzed

656
00:56:51,540 --> 00:56:58,900
as far as the current plans for the building of the house and me, is anyone made the inclusion

657
00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:01,460
that they have the access they need to keep it in?

658
00:57:01,460 --> 00:57:04,400
And no, I did not, I don't know if the applicants heard

659
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:09,040
from the underwriter specific to that.

660
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,160
I think the idea from their analysis

661
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,680
is they will improve with the improved driveway

662
00:57:16,210 --> 00:57:17,800
and the turnaround and improving access

663
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,120
to that portion of the ditch.

664
00:57:20,060 --> 00:57:23,320
But I did not receive any feedback relative

665
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:28,460
to the location of the house from the ditch writer.

666
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:36,840
question.

667
00:57:48,170 --> 00:57:49,610
I'm just

668
00:58:02,890 --> 00:58:07,610
going through to see if I missed anything. One of the impact

669
00:58:07,610 --> 00:58:13,990
projects we look at is development on adjacent landings and so many issues with the

670
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:19,410
addition of one residential structure, as Gary alluded to, both on the both land and

671
00:58:19,410 --> 00:58:25,290
residential and agriculture in the area adjacent to it. Gary

672
00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:32,310
talks about the local fire

673
00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:39,250
The fire protection authority approving the fire protection features prior to approval.

674
00:58:40,090 --> 00:58:44,690
This relates to the required conditions or evidence that they will have the place.

675
00:58:48,860 --> 00:58:54,840
They want to delineate the fire protection plan requirements on the base of the path.

676
00:58:56,260 --> 00:58:58,800
And require future landowners to adhere to those.

677
00:59:01,050 --> 00:59:04,650
They will have to build their road to county standards and ensure that.

678
00:59:04,650 --> 00:59:09,290
So when we are trying to find a criminal that will be inspected, make sure they will

679
00:59:09,290 --> 00:59:13,890
have held county standards with their appropriate materials, and usually we'll get somebody

680
00:59:13,890 --> 00:59:18,930
from the fire department to travel there and make sure it's complete design.

681
00:59:24,020 --> 00:59:30,180
And then ongoing maintenance is a big issue, so it will be difficult condition if they maintain

682
00:59:30,180 --> 00:59:36,420
all access facilities to their original performance capabilities in perpetuity.

683
00:59:42,910 --> 00:59:49,090
Once we get into some of these other parts, there's a lot of, it kind of goes without saying,

684
00:59:49,230 --> 00:59:54,150
but one of the criteria, we have to make sure that they meet survey requirements.

685
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:59,970
So, when they submit their final flat, I actually also do that.

686
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,140
Plot. Then we make sure that it has all of the things that it's supposed to be in there, end of the

687
01:00:05,140 --> 01:00:09,540
universal standard to monetization for a few subdued to client flat, or it gets filed.

688
01:00:13,140 --> 01:00:13,940
Legal and

689
01:00:13,940 --> 01:00:21,420
physical access, the physical access is provided off of Mill Creek Road and their road approach,

690
01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:29,900
their driveway to county standards, and their turnaround. Legal access is the right-side way,

691
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:36,520
and you'll create as a county-owned road, a live snow bank, maintained by the county.

692
01:00:37,220 --> 01:00:39,520
So they will be accessing a county-owned maintained road,

693
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,980
and then the internal road approach and driveway will be private,

694
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,840
but they will have to maintain those opportunity,

695
01:00:45,620 --> 01:00:47,480
and they have to build those county standards.

696
01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:50,680
And we said that, that means they will meet.

697
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,660
There's only the access, and there are some good regulations.

698
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,340
And again, I tried not to duplicate, so I just referenced conditions.

699
01:00:59,260 --> 01:01:02,500
that already address this whole access.

700
01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:08,540
Compliance with the provisions of easements and the locations and installation of any plant utilities.

701
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:16,380
So they will have to provide more electric, whatever utilities needed to access that.

702
01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:21,980
Since it has already been existing a lot and it goes without saying they were producing more lots.

703
01:01:21,980 --> 01:01:27,500
You can imagine that you make sure that they're allowing for those easements for utilities to teach a lot in the subdivision.

704
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:34,860
They will be able to access those utilities off of no pre-broad in the existing easements for electric.

705
01:01:45,770 --> 01:01:53,850
Under the compliance order review procedures, this just requires that they follow the review procedures outlined in the subdivision regulations.

706
01:01:54,730 --> 01:02:00,050
and this is just identifying that they shall be and that includes going forward into the final path.

707
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:10,920
Consideration of an officially adopted growth policy through the growth policy and non-regulatory

708
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:16,420
so you don't have conditions associated with those that are able to try to identify those areas

709
01:02:16,420 --> 01:02:21,260
where there was consistency with the growth policy and then

710
01:02:24,460 --> 01:02:26,460
compliance with the Park County subdivision regulations.

711
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:34,400
This is where I really try to identify what's required in terms of review procedures that

712
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:39,520
they have to adhere to the design standards, just because there's a condition in here that

713
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,380
says they have to adhere to something very specific in our design standards, doesn't mean

714
01:02:43,380 --> 01:02:44,760
that it alleviates that provision.

715
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:50,940
In this condition, I basically looked at them on notice that they have to meet the design

716
01:02:50,940 --> 01:02:56,020
standards even at the final plot and after some reason they cannot meet the design standards

717
01:02:56,020 --> 01:03:02,320
that may require them to be subject to re-review for any particular item does require that they provide

718
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:07,540
the final covenants that they're proposing prior to submittal so I can look at those to make

719
01:03:07,540 --> 01:03:09,140
sure that they're consistent with what we've got.

720
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,380
Making sure that they file a planning certificate

721
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:22,240
prior to final plat that still shows that they're the owners of the property and they have legal authority

722
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:27,340
to execute this subdivision. They have three years from the data preliminary and final

723
01:03:27,340 --> 01:03:28,900
out of approval to file for final approval.

724
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:33,160
There's the ability to request an extension

725
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,480
to the county commissioners.

726
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,560
I just put them on notice that they have that amount of time

727
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,720
to finish and meet all the conditions

728
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:40,500
of final final approval.

729
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,520
And then under six, I identify that if they make any changes

730
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,320
to the application for any reason,

731
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,100
that may suggest them to re-review depending upon the question.

732
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:51,620
So, serial.

733
01:03:56,270 --> 01:03:58,670
And then it's just another blanket that they have to comply

734
01:03:58,670 --> 01:04:00,690
I have all other standards and procedures

735
01:04:00,690 --> 01:04:02,150
I don't think that I'm certain that you would.

736
01:04:03,950 --> 01:04:05,910
Okay, any questions on that?

737
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,360
Yeah, that's three-year timeline is between the conditional

738
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,020
approval, and then actually being able to get built.

739
01:04:18,190 --> 01:04:20,610
And then actually being able to get all of the bill.

740
01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:22,770
Yep, so they won't be able to build their house

741
01:04:22,770 --> 01:04:23,850
in that period of time.

742
01:04:24,110 --> 01:04:25,250
They would have to meet the conditions

743
01:04:25,250 --> 01:04:25,990
in front of the pool.

744
01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:28,210
So they are going to be putting in their road approach,

745
01:04:29,090 --> 01:04:29,990
driveway, turn around.

746
01:04:30,730 --> 01:04:35,250
They'll have to finish their storm drainage storm. They're grading and drainage plan and

747
01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:39,210
storm drainage analysis. They'll have to have their weed management plan developed and

748
01:04:39,210 --> 01:04:45,730
approved to the weed supervisor in the local weed board. And then any other requirement

749
01:04:46,210 --> 01:04:52,030
about to show that they've receded established weed vegetation. So all of those things

750
01:04:52,030 --> 01:04:56,730
have to happen within that three-year period. And they'll submit a final pilot application that says,

751
01:04:56,730 --> 01:05:02,170
Because here's our final rating and training plan, our design for our road approach and

752
01:05:02,170 --> 01:05:02,530
driveway.

753
01:05:03,130 --> 01:05:03,710
I turn around.

754
01:05:04,330 --> 01:05:06,350
Here's our weed management plan finalized.

755
01:05:06,850 --> 01:05:12,090
So all those things come in final documents, they're planning to certificate all of those

756
01:05:12,090 --> 01:05:12,250
things.

757
01:05:12,490 --> 01:05:16,910
And then we go, because the attorney's office review, our office review, the local fire protection

758
01:05:16,910 --> 01:05:19,690
authority will go out and inspect the access along with the road supervisor.

759
01:05:20,550 --> 01:05:22,030
There's a feed for them to do that.

760
01:05:22,530 --> 01:05:25,530
And then the commissioner will familiarly, if they meet all of the conditions of the

761
01:05:25,530 --> 01:05:29,590
will approve it, they file it, then they can build their house.

762
01:05:32,260 --> 01:05:33,020
Super simple, right?

763
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,840
Well, back to my comment on agriculture.

764
01:05:42,620 --> 01:05:52,020
And I think what I'm understanding you to say is that we have no regulation that says,

765
01:05:53,540 --> 01:05:55,000
I don't know how you would word that,

766
01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:00,860
that you're going to be, if you're living in an ag area,

767
01:06:01,180 --> 01:06:06,940
you're going to be bothered by some agriculture things.

768
01:06:07,460 --> 01:06:10,840
In fact, maintaining that ditch through the place

769
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,000
means that somebody's going to go through there

770
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,080
with a track hole about every 10 years.

771
01:06:17,220 --> 01:06:19,980
And the fact that that ditch is there

772
01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:22,240
is going to change the water flow.

773
01:06:23,060 --> 01:06:25,880
And there might be a water worn at low spot

774
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:32,140
and your ditch that's going to catch melt water from up above. So there are a whole bunch of those

775
01:06:32,140 --> 01:06:39,580
things that I've had to deal with neighbors personally and know about. But I think what you're

776
01:06:39,580 --> 01:06:46,580
saying is we have no provision in our subdivision law to address that at all.

777
01:06:46,580 --> 01:06:54,860
No, you do. Okay. You have this review. This is this is the platform. Any board member could

778
01:06:54,860 --> 01:07:01,340
present why you know based on you would want to base it on something but right now you have

779
01:07:01,340 --> 01:07:09,160
you're we're supposed to look at the potential impacts on ag and so we can any board member can bring

780
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,220
up those findings, your discussion.

781
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,160
Hold on to it Kent and we'll dive into that because they

782
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,400
do you think what your raping is really important?

783
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,360
I'm going to go along with that sometimes as well.

784
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:24,720
Yeah.

785
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,500
What I'll do now, if there's no questions,

786
01:07:28,060 --> 01:07:29,960
just come based on my summary.

787
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,720
I'm going to open it for public comment.

788
01:07:32,140 --> 01:07:34,760
And then we'll go to our deliberation.

789
01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:38,500
I'll open it for public comment.

790
01:07:40,590 --> 01:07:42,450
If you have public comment, please come up.

791
01:07:43,250 --> 01:07:44,550
State your name and address.

792
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,300
Do I need to identify myself?

793
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:53,900
Yes, please.

794
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:54,660
Your name and address.

795
01:07:54,660 --> 01:08:03,260
to Mar. I live in town in Livingston. Yes. So my question is, is there any plan I came late? So

796
01:08:03,260 --> 01:08:07,960
sorry if this is redundant per something you've discussed already. But is there any plan for like

797
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:16,120
a very huge one to be maintained? Sometimes people come in and want to, you know, just put a whole

798
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:23,660
bunch of grass in and then there's all the chemicals that keep that maintained and extra water

799
01:08:23,660 --> 01:08:35,220
and things like that, or are there any provisions to prevent that, so that most of the native around it stays native.

800
01:08:37,980 --> 01:08:38,400
Thanks, Linda.

801
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:38,760
Thank you.

802
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,060
It makes sure to address the

803
01:08:44,730 --> 01:08:46,750
additional public's moment.

804
01:08:54,660 --> 01:09:00,820
I was puzzled when you noted—well, I wasn't puzzled when you noted that construction causes weeds.

805
01:09:01,580 --> 01:09:09,220
I was puzzled that you wanted to be receded before they begin construction.

806
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:14,480
So that seems like you've gone and spent all your money to put down all that new seed

807
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:20,240
and make everything nice and the extension has given you these finance and all that stuff.

808
01:09:21,260 --> 01:09:25,900
And then it's approved and then you dig it up and you've got weeds because all the building,

809
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:54,460
people come and supply all the services are bringing weeds every day. So I'm not sure how to solve that whether maybe you shouldn't be required to have your completed to have a weed plan but not to have fulfilled its implementation until after you've built kind of I don't I don't know.

810
01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:01,860
but it just seems backwards. So, maybe you want to think a lot, especially I think you

811
01:10:01,860 --> 01:10:04,120
have additional

812
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,500
public comment.

813
01:10:12,340 --> 01:10:13,080
Anything online?

814
01:10:25,420 --> 01:10:26,640
I see any hands raised.

815
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:30,720
If you're online

816
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,000
of public comment, please shout out.

817
01:10:39,490 --> 01:10:41,570
Okay, I'm going to go ahead and close public comment then.

818
01:10:42,150 --> 01:10:48,050
We'll open to board deliberation. I think what will be most helpful is if we basically just

819
01:10:48,050 --> 01:10:56,690
section by section and dig into the bindings and conditions. So let's go to it and start

820
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:01,340
with

821
01:11:01,340 --> 01:11:02,460
it. Let me

822
01:11:08,350 --> 01:11:17,930
take this. It impacts on agriculture. And at this time, again, we can continue

823
01:11:17,930 --> 01:11:23,790
ask questions. This would be where, you know, if you wanted to make modifications, if you wanted to,

824
01:11:23,790 --> 01:11:28,630
the ad findings, the conditions, this is that time.

825
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,820
Do we have a legal description

826
01:11:32,820 --> 01:11:36,280
of that easement to be able to access that ditch?

827
01:11:36,940 --> 01:11:39,180
Are they saying 30, 60 feet

828
01:11:39,180 --> 01:11:40,580
where we're deducting the ditch bank

829
01:11:40,580 --> 01:11:43,340
or is that encompassed that two track?

830
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,220
And the only reason I asked that

831
01:11:45,220 --> 01:11:49,000
because of recent lawsuits of people using an access road

832
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,900
that would probably qualify for court law,

833
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,000
I think it ended up being ruled that way

834
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:58,700
that it wasn't prescriptive easement, however it was not on the ditch bank, but it was

835
01:11:58,700 --> 01:12:02,400
the main gain of head meat that was on that person's property.

836
01:12:03,140 --> 01:12:07,800
So that would be my question, is there going to force them to stay along that ditch bank

837
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:12,860
above, even though that gradient is there, or does that include that two-track coming in

838
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,200
or improved road that they created off of County Road?

839
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:23,920
That could open up a potential maybe not with that current owner, but with a future current

840
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:30,080
or it opens up a lawsuit potential that need could be avoided knowing that going forward.

841
01:12:30,420 --> 01:12:35,940
And then the other comment I have is designing your structure and building site so that

842
01:12:35,940 --> 01:12:41,700
it's not so much the summer flow of the water. It's those high water events we have,

843
01:12:41,780 --> 01:12:47,160
like a ring on some of that. That dish does not melt out first. That's going to have ice in it.

844
01:12:47,300 --> 01:12:51,060
You're going to have ice jams. Any water coming down that dish that's kind of

845
01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:56,740
in that dish could potentially fall over and head straight to the house. The dish owners,

846
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,240
the water-right users are not liable for that because we're being noting there as well.

847
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,120
That's all I have to say.

848
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:12,240
I think so. Is there a legal description of the easement to maintain the dish?

849
01:13:12,900 --> 01:13:15,420
Yes, under that roll,

850
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:28,100
downroll 71, page 64, is it a 30-foot?

851
01:13:36,500 --> 01:13:46,100
And that ditch then goes the entire length of the property and there's not a headgate anywhere on that ditch to be maintained.

852
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:55,460
And so probably the only maintenance is the ditch cleaning with a with a excavator.

853
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:57,440
Yeah,

854
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:00,760
there's no head game.

855
01:14:01,580 --> 01:14:09,840
But then that's the boundary property and they will access that ditch on both ends of the property via ditch bank that they stay on that ditch bank.

856
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:15,880
I think it goes off the property into the, I do any property, right where it stops.

857
01:14:16,700 --> 01:14:18,780
Well, it goes underground and right at our property length.

858
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,460
So there's not really any access from the other side of that ditch, just to wait and see.

859
01:14:23,980 --> 01:14:24,080
Yeah.

860
01:14:24,220 --> 01:14:24,720
That's what I thought.

861
01:14:26,220 --> 01:14:30,040
You know, the first part of that ditch is concrete line.

862
01:14:35,250 --> 01:14:37,690
Is there any climate?

863
01:14:38,170 --> 01:14:41,850
And it might, this might fall more in intersection two,

864
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:45,790
I think there is a, I mean, you'd like to how,

865
01:14:45,930 --> 01:14:47,590
or do you feel like it's sufficiently addressed?

866
01:14:50,420 --> 01:14:54,100
Yeah, I guess it's the most sufficiently addressed.

867
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:58,860
I do want to follow up with that at that.

868
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:25,340
You have the current, you are the current owners, but in terms of going forward, I feel like history does get lost, you know, and things that might be intuitive to you all as the current developed, you know, the current developers. Um, you know, always, you know, people don't always keep, you know, what the history was. And I feel like your point about the ice chants and sledding and things. I don't know.

869
01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:33,300
So, probably, water use or facilities, I'm not exactly sure, and it's not a problem, I think.

870
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:40,600
It sounds like I think you guys know it, you know, going what might happen, but somebody who purchased property from you years from now.

871
01:15:41,060 --> 01:15:49,120
Is there a way to list like, you know, the water association is liable for the planet that natural hazards do occur?

872
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,020
And it's kind of like this funny liability.

873
01:15:51,020 --> 01:15:52,380
This is you have all sorts of things.

874
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,640
But water hazards do occur in there.

875
01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:59,040
You know, these water rain on solvents.

876
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:01,740
Maybe more likely to happen in the future.

877
01:16:01,820 --> 01:16:03,680
So I don't know what we do about that.

878
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,800
But it does feel like that's a really relevant point.

879
01:16:07,620 --> 01:16:08,520
So we can.

880
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,000
Again, I do think it's going to fall under the next section.

881
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:12,440
Yeah.

882
01:16:12,620 --> 01:16:13,680
A lot of user facilities.

883
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:14,040
Yeah.

884
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:14,680
Sorry.

885
01:16:14,940 --> 01:16:15,660
So jumping ahead.

886
01:16:15,980 --> 01:16:16,620
Sorry about that.

887
01:16:16,620 --> 01:16:17,160
no problem.

888
01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:33,340
Can you have you had brought up the potential for yeah for affecting the agriculture

889
01:16:33,340 --> 01:16:41,680
of producers around that yeah a lot of questions about how to protect the users around them.

890
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:48,820
There are people who don't understand open range laws that don't understand ditch

891
01:16:51,900 --> 01:17:02,820
that, yeah, noise at late at night, those kinds of things.

892
01:17:03,020 --> 01:17:09,320
How do we protect the ag users around this property?

893
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,440
You could require the file covenant to mix them

894
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:18,540
aware that there's additional production in the area

895
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:20,760
that might be noisy for late hours.

896
01:17:23,380 --> 01:17:32,640
all of those things so that whoever provides this property will see that. Okay, but you're saying we need a finding.

897
01:17:33,700 --> 01:17:40,580
So the finding is kind of the justification. What's the factual component based on your argument? What's there?

898
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:47,740
And you're you are already kind of started to say it and then you bait your it's just the thing of this way.

899
01:17:47,740 --> 01:18:04,780
How would you justify requiring a covenant that says a lot of nerds are here by notified that this is open-range country and they have to adhere to open-range laws and be made aware that agriculture production produces odor, smells, no ways, things like that.

900
01:18:05,860 --> 01:18:14,600
How would you justify that? That's your finding. So you kind of already did it. You would want to put it down in a finding.

901
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,680
Okay, and so is that something we need to accomplish tonight?

902
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:19,100
Yeah.

903
01:18:19,660 --> 01:18:19,780
Yeah.

904
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:21,320
Because I'll start writing.

905
01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:24,520
I'm happy to do it on the screen too.

906
01:18:24,740 --> 01:18:24,860
Yeah.

907
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,060
Oh, we can help each other out as well.

908
01:18:30,340 --> 01:18:30,660
Should we?

909
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:31,620
Yeah, we would need that.

910
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,860
So we need if you do have a finding that you'd like to add or a condition,

911
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:40,300
it needs to go down on paper now because at the end, that is what we would be voting on.

912
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:46,000
Is there any agricultural property that directly, because I think there's a residential

913
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,480
property to the west, there's now, because the wave of sub-divided, a residential

914
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:55,160
property to the south on the other side of Mill Creek, is there any more west of the

915
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:55,520
property?

916
01:18:55,980 --> 01:18:56,280
Southwest.

917
01:18:56,940 --> 01:18:57,200
Southwest.

918
01:18:58,060 --> 01:19:02,800
But it's on the other, it's South of Mill Creek Road on the other side of the creek.

919
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:04,200
Okay.

920
01:19:05,420 --> 01:19:08,860
I just want to bring that up, because just having been there, I'm not sure how close to

921
01:19:08,860 --> 01:19:12,640
agricultural activities, or any properties that may in no.

922
01:19:12,860 --> 01:19:16,500
I know agricultural production adjacent to, right?

923
01:19:16,820 --> 01:19:19,200
Well, I think it's a good rule of thumb to set the precedence.

924
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,480
If you do one, just like the other.

925
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,060
And this one may not have adjacent ag lands right next to it.

926
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:31,840
But because we start that provision and make that known to future owners as a government,

927
01:19:32,300 --> 01:19:37,040
it makes it kind of standard procedure going forward for those that are right.

928
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,720
I mean, you can cut and paste it into the next room.

929
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:40,020
Sure.

930
01:19:41,260 --> 01:19:46,380
And the recommended finds that we would add D. This is impacts on agriculture.

931
01:19:46,420 --> 01:19:53,000
We'd add D. The proposed subdivision is located adjacent to open range land and agricultural

932
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:53,600
land.

933
01:19:53,840 --> 01:20:01,980
And there's, you know, there's pop abilities of agricultural smells, you know, or smells

934
01:20:01,980 --> 01:20:09,700
noise, or whatever, I don't know what all of them are, all related to the necessary

935
01:20:09,700 --> 01:20:15,860
distance of agriculture. Is that correct? Okay, keep going. I'm not a role here.

936
01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:26,060
The necessary distance of agriculture and in any condition, and so the condition is

937
01:20:26,060 --> 01:20:34,100
And the freed ranging animals, I don't know if they can do some of the easy, I would say

938
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:42,540
like some of the more broad-like noise, smell, and light pollution, with the light dust.

939
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:44,020
Yeah, dust.

940
01:20:44,620 --> 01:20:49,840
So, driving from necessary agricultural operations, so it's not leaving the next property under

941
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:54,920
exposed to, you know, somebody having a big party all night long, you know, which is not

942
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:55,160
sure.

943
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:56,280
Yeah, I mean, that's the other thing.

944
01:20:56,300 --> 01:20:57,720
You want to be respectful of,

945
01:20:57,860 --> 01:21:00,500
you can't be somebody just having a big blow out.

946
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,760
And it's like, sorry, you know, it's on my aggregate guidelines.

947
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:05,620
So you want to have a backing up balance.

948
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,560
There has to be necessarily a responsible agricultural activity.

949
01:21:10,300 --> 01:21:12,060
That's a morale booster in support of.

950
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,240
I'm just trying to capture what you're saying,

951
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,940
but tell me if I need to modify it.

952
01:21:15,940 --> 01:21:16,200
Okay.

953
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,040
I'm doing this based on

954
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,380
what that's an encounter sign to.

955
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,280
So you guys try and then

956
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,340
Heavy equipment so far.

957
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:29,020
I think that's in our operations.

958
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,100
Well, I like that light dust.

959
01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:33,980
You might just put light dust in noise or something.

960
01:21:36,410 --> 01:21:36,930
Yeah, the necessary.

961
01:21:37,470 --> 01:21:41,070
That seems to be the big ones that everybody comes to mind right away.

962
01:21:41,370 --> 01:21:42,490
It's the light at night.

963
01:21:43,090 --> 01:21:45,070
And that may be even just naming the ditch.

964
01:21:45,070 --> 01:21:48,750
You had a ring stone beforehand and they're looking for cloths because they're out of water.

965
01:21:49,010 --> 01:21:50,950
I mean, that doesn't always happen in the middle of the day.

966
01:21:53,010 --> 01:21:58,930
Yeah, it's one of the good things that I can do.

967
01:22:28,780 --> 01:22:29,800
Yeah, guys.

968
01:22:30,660 --> 01:22:36,240
Yeah, it's because you're supposed to do something else.

969
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,620
One of those surprises I've been called.

970
01:22:39,620 --> 01:22:39,920
about.

971
01:22:45,860 --> 01:22:52,720
I feel like it is really good because I feel like that how responsible you are is

972
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:58,460
your own, you know, your developing side, your own home. Folks who are buying things later on,

973
01:22:58,460 --> 01:23:03,880
and we've seen this with other development type things. People, you know, the transactions,

974
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,760
I may be a really real estate agent who's involved with us and has something about agriculture,

975
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:12,520
culture and who may be, you know, this is all sorts of things that are ongoing into the future.

976
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:18,480
So I think it is, you know, as we deal with this, like on agriculture side, this property

977
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:23,720
was adjacent to a stream bank. There'd be a lot more thing than I had to say via the based

978
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:30,080
on the background and the policies and feelings of the hard conservation board as well. Because

979
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:38,060
because we have had those issues where we are chasing violations through multiple land

980
01:23:38,060 --> 01:23:43,220
orders, because sales have happened so fast that we're still trying to check down the

981
01:23:43,220 --> 01:23:58,360
original one, and there's two others afterwards already, and it's like what do you, what

982
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:09,200
your point Dustin about spring water events. I'm going to are we okay with because I do

983
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:17,520
think that falls under water user facilities. Yeah. Okay. Any additional findings and modifications

984
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,260
for impacts on agriculture?

985
01:24:28,420 --> 01:24:33,940
Let's let's move on to impacts on agriculture water user facilities.

986
01:24:36,180 --> 01:24:40,740
You know, do you find names currently, you know,

987
01:24:40,900 --> 01:24:43,920
recommended conditions, I do agree.

988
01:24:44,140 --> 01:24:49,020
I think it's important similar to this previous finding

989
01:24:49,020 --> 01:24:56,080
that we added that there are some reference on the flat,

990
01:24:57,810 --> 01:25:01,160
about basically that the irrigation district is not liable

991
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:06,140
or either flooding or personal injury.

992
01:25:08,180 --> 01:25:09,840
Yes, it seems like just a couple of issues,

993
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,660
there's access and there's also my abilities

994
01:25:11,660 --> 01:25:12,860
probably more issues than that.

995
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,900
I'm not entirely clear based on the conversation here.

996
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,260
Is there access either from Milk Creek Road

997
01:25:19,260 --> 01:25:22,980
or from the Northwest property lines

998
01:25:22,980 --> 01:25:24,200
for someone to move in equipment

999
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:25,880
to conduct the repair?

1000
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,460
The access would come from the Northwest,

1001
01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:28,100
they don't have.

1002
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,400
The easel doesn't extend to the driveway, the two track.

1003
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:33,560
Okay.

1004
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:35,600
So their access is from an elephant.

1005
01:25:35,740 --> 01:25:39,160
Because easel means 15 foot off the center, and you're going to have your house just

1006
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,740
beyond that easement from where it looks like on the maps, and then the road goes to your

1007
01:25:43,740 --> 01:25:45,420
house, and it's a pretty steep bank to get.

1008
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:46,480
Okay.

1009
01:25:47,220 --> 01:25:50,240
They have not been using that two track to access that.

1010
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:51,580
They have been.

1011
01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:56,780
Okay, so there we started to get into a prescription reason, the potential.

1012
01:25:58,100 --> 01:25:59,380
That big isn't still there.

1013
01:25:59,380 --> 01:26:00,480
Is it worth mentioning?

1014
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:00,980
I don't know.

1015
01:26:01,380 --> 01:26:12,320
And it does read the question because I was under the impression from the application that they were suggesting that improved driveway will be able to be used for maintenance.

1016
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,240
And so maybe some clarification.

1017
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:20,280
And that's where the sticky point that I'm getting at would be because it's not the legal

1018
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,100
prescriptive or the legal easement to the ditch.

1019
01:26:23,380 --> 01:26:26,980
A future landowner will say, well, what are you doing bringing that up my driveway?

1020
01:26:29,540 --> 01:26:34,540
There's been a case outside of Clyde Park within the last five years that that was brought

1021
01:26:34,540 --> 01:26:34,800
up.

1022
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:36,160
The landowner did lose.

1023
01:26:36,540 --> 01:26:39,660
However, it was like a two year endeavor of encode.

1024
01:26:39,660 --> 01:26:42,320
but not something you want to have a review.

1025
01:26:42,780 --> 01:26:45,560
I guess if it could be something

1026
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,260
provided in the plaques,

1027
01:26:48,380 --> 01:26:50,020
it gives a lot of resources

1028
01:26:50,020 --> 01:26:52,200
that could actually have to go that way.

1029
01:26:53,340 --> 01:26:54,960
So question for the applicant,

1030
01:26:55,180 --> 01:26:58,300
are you saying you are going to allow PACs

1031
01:26:58,300 --> 01:27:00,960
that to be a being approved, right, Wayne?

1032
01:27:02,140 --> 01:27:04,060
I would allow it if they came in a lot of nuances,

1033
01:27:04,300 --> 01:27:05,280
they didn't want to come up the driveway,

1034
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,080
but that doesn't mean that the next person will be ready.

1035
01:27:10,780 --> 01:27:14,460
And that's kind of gives you the, you know what I'm saying, that's probably, she'll give that.

1036
01:27:15,380 --> 01:27:21,780
You guys have the right, if you can make finding, there's an impact, and we need to mitigate that impact.

1037
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:22,920
You've been right for our condition.

1038
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:31,360
Would the finding be that, um, you know, the water, water users need to be able to access the irrigation ditch.

1039
01:27:32,380 --> 01:27:38,460
For, uh, routine or for any kind of maintenance on this little routine, but emergency maintenance or whatever for maintenance period.

1040
01:27:38,460 --> 01:27:46,400
It is a customer for the water users to be brought into this process to determine if they

1041
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,000
do have the access that they need.

1042
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:57,660
They have access via an easement and this subdivision does not impact that access through

1043
01:27:57,660 --> 01:27:59,060
the northwest quarter of the property.

1044
01:27:59,860 --> 01:28:04,420
Not even what's being proposed limits their access, takes away their ability.

1045
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:05,100
Okay.

1046
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:13,840
It doesn't mean that because it's undeveloped and very informal that they aren't using portions

1047
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:18,400
of the property that they don't have access on to get to the ditch.

1048
01:28:19,700 --> 01:28:26,980
But nothing in this subdivision proposal limits that easement that is 30 feet wide on the

1049
01:28:26,980 --> 01:28:27,280
ditch.

1050
01:28:27,820 --> 01:28:32,120
And I think we have to be careful not to force somebody's hand to provide an easement that

1051
01:28:33,020 --> 01:28:39,440
necessarily isn't justified on somebody's behalf that isn't here asking for it. Does that make sense?

1052
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:44,140
Sure. Yeah. So if they've got enough to come from that one side of the dish to go down the dish,

1053
01:28:44,140 --> 01:28:48,740
that's probably sufficient enough. And then they need to understand that they're not going to use

1054
01:28:48,740 --> 01:28:52,600
that to track it anymore. They might come and ask you not going to door. Hey, can we come in to

1055
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:59,940
look? We just got this spot right where we're going to pipeline. That seems logical. And then

1056
01:28:59,940 --> 01:29:04,980
George may or may not grant that, but I don't think we as a board can force the hand of

1057
01:29:04,980 --> 01:29:09,960
making that happen, I guess. So I wanted to careful that as well from the landlord's property

1058
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,200
rights perspective. Yeah.

1059
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:16,350
So does what would you suggest the language should be for this findings?

1060
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:25,980
Everything's kind of in there above, but I would, yeah I guess the only thing we can do is just assert

1061
01:29:25,980 --> 01:29:34,520
that that easement that is intact stays relatively easily accessible so that

1062
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,860
they can come in from a boat on their prescribed easement that they have rather

1063
01:29:38,860 --> 01:29:41,220
than the two-track or new improve.

1064
01:30:07,090 --> 01:30:14,550
And some of them may be a little redundant, but a lot of it has to do with the building and the world above. So, yeah, it's probably wanted for us.

1065
01:30:20,440 --> 01:30:25,900
You could also expand on the findings. Well,

1066
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:52,500
the next finding though talks about the water and. Yeah. Yeah.

1067
01:30:55,540 --> 01:30:59,240
So, I mean, it says in the application there's potential for

1068
01:31:02,340 --> 01:31:07,520
seavage, flooding, and increased recreation around the tip.

1069
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,500
So, then let's...

1070
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,180
Sorry, just nothing in the proposed one.

1071
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:13,880
It's access violates.

1072
01:31:14,180 --> 01:31:14,700
Yeah.

1073
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:15,460
Sorry.

1074
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:16,340
Okay.

1075
01:31:20,940 --> 01:31:22,040
Oh, Linus actually should be okay.

1076
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:22,420
Okay.

1077
01:31:22,420 --> 01:31:22,680
Okay.

1078
01:31:27,210 --> 01:31:32,870
So can we add the basically referencing that there is potential for

1079
01:31:33,750 --> 01:31:34,350
blooding?

1080
01:31:35,130 --> 01:31:35,490
New finding?

1081
01:31:35,870 --> 01:31:36,310
New finding.

1082
01:31:37,050 --> 01:31:40,350
Thank you.

1083
01:31:47,740 --> 01:31:48,280
Say the answer.

1084
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:56,330
Um, there is potential for blooding, uh, seapage,

1085
01:32:01,610 --> 01:32:02,370
uh, HG.

1086
01:32:04,330 --> 01:32:08,250
An increased human presence, you know,

1087
01:32:09,730 --> 01:32:19,290
So you guys have languages, yeah, so the liability part flooding yeah pretty well covers in on this human presence part of liability issue or is that more of an access?

1088
01:32:19,810 --> 01:32:22,510
I'm trying to get a sense of the increase human presence.

1089
01:32:23,070 --> 01:32:27,950
Oh, you know, it's the liability issue.

1090
01:32:27,950 --> 01:32:30,630
Some of these that they're working on it may trip or something.

1091
01:32:31,290 --> 01:32:31,410
Yeah.

1092
01:32:47,790 --> 01:32:48,590
And

1093
01:32:51,120 --> 01:33:03,440
then I think noting on the the final plat, there is Montana code or an irrigation district

1094
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:10,660
not being liable or personally being worked

1095
01:33:19,530 --> 01:33:21,450
on an irrigation district because I just

1096
01:33:21,450 --> 01:33:23,930
sure on. It's a . . .

1097
01:33:26,750 --> 01:33:29,950
I just was so good that I'm on the side of the fireplace and.

1098
01:33:30,810 --> 01:33:33,110
It's just a complex.

1099
01:33:33,650 --> 01:33:36,890
It's a complex, yeah, you know, it's right up here.

1100
01:33:37,670 --> 01:33:39,590
Yes, right up here.

1101
01:33:39,970 --> 01:33:45,110
And if they build a bullet, they can't approve it.

1102
01:33:45,190 --> 01:33:46,050
Sure. Okay.

1103
01:33:46,490 --> 01:33:47,170
Yes. Yes.

1104
01:33:47,170 --> 01:33:47,330
Yes.

1105
01:33:47,330 --> 01:33:48,250
So you go to the room.

1106
01:33:48,390 --> 01:33:49,750
No, why is that?

1107
01:33:49,790 --> 01:33:55,170
Uh, due to the road model image of a potential failed septic system, all in due to the service

1108
01:33:55,170 --> 01:33:55,870
water source.

1109
01:33:56,590 --> 01:33:56,870
Yes.

1110
01:33:59,260 --> 01:33:59,460
Yes.

1111
01:33:59,960 --> 01:34:01,560
Which one can I gamble with?

1112
01:34:06,690 --> 01:34:07,010
Intro.

1113
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:38,460
Yeah.

1114
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:39,240
Maybe reference.

1115
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:40,060
Section.

1116
01:34:40,220 --> 01:34:40,360
What?

1117
01:34:40,980 --> 01:34:41,040
76.

1118
01:34:42,220 --> 01:34:42,760
75.

1119
01:34:43,780 --> 01:34:44,180
75.

1120
01:34:45,020 --> 01:34:46,260
I don't know.

1121
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:46,620
Seven.

1122
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:47,040
Seven.

1123
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,520
Is it really, is it really the one?

1124
01:34:50,220 --> 01:34:51,940
I think so.

1125
01:34:55,140 --> 01:34:57,120
What is the same?

1126
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,980
That's really just me.

1127
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:02,800
Joe.

1128
01:35:03,060 --> 01:35:04,400
There's a limit of liability.

1129
01:35:04,980 --> 01:35:08,300
Personal injury, it's an

1130
01:35:10,820 --> 01:35:12,880
irrigation district or private person or entity.

1131
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,700
and to see owning or operating irrigation diversions

1132
01:35:15,700 --> 01:35:17,980
aqueducts canals, visions of the flower.

1133
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:20,520
You cut Hayseh?

1134
01:35:20,660 --> 01:35:22,360
No, it's not liable to

1135
01:35:24,380 --> 01:35:25,080
property damage.

1136
01:35:25,980 --> 01:35:26,580
Resulting from the plant.

1137
01:35:26,580 --> 01:35:27,400
May I ask you something?

1138
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:28,420
Yeah, yeah.

1139
01:35:28,420 --> 01:35:28,980
I think that's right.

1140
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:30,660
They were doing such a good job for you.

1141
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:30,880
Yeah.

1142
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:32,960
I love reading.

1143
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:34,840
I love reading.

1144
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:35,620
That's it.

1145
01:35:36,900 --> 01:35:37,880
So that's all I got.

1146
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:42,700
What about the seed of the amount of seed that we maybe

1147
01:35:42,700 --> 01:35:55,330
have a comment or something because it was already easement that we need to say something

1148
01:35:55,330 --> 01:36:02,650
else about the different re-everting easement because it was already easement as far as

1149
01:36:02,650 --> 01:36:04,330
repairing the maintenance of the ditch.

1150
01:36:10,030 --> 01:36:14,930
I was wondering if that could be with NC, if that

1151
01:36:14,930 --> 01:36:18,850
could we perhaps add it to A?

1152
01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:21,730
Yeah, it's going to ask that.

1153
01:36:21,910 --> 01:36:24,890
Just kind of a read or a read.

1154
01:36:25,550 --> 01:36:26,630
OK, let's, yeah.

1155
01:36:30,170 --> 01:36:32,990
I mean, you're identifying that there's

1156
01:36:33,650 --> 01:36:35,870
indeed access and nothing in the proposal

1157
01:36:35,870 --> 01:36:36,970
limits that access.

1158
01:36:37,950 --> 01:36:39,930
So I don't know that you would need a condition.

1159
01:36:40,350 --> 01:36:40,550
Yeah.

1160
01:36:40,670 --> 01:36:41,550
About the same.

1161
01:36:41,790 --> 01:36:43,750
Well, you know, we were thinking, yeah, or that,

1162
01:36:43,950 --> 01:36:45,170
or just adding it to A.

1163
01:36:50,830 --> 01:36:54,090
Yeah, that's the right to do the condition, whatever, um,

1164
01:37:06,780 --> 01:37:08,300
while he's doing that any additional.

1165
01:37:11,260 --> 01:37:14,220
Find that we will cover your impacts,

1166
01:37:22,250 --> 01:37:25,190
let's move on, impacts the local services and

1167
01:37:31,210 --> 01:37:31,470
a

1168
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,080
questions.

1169
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:47,980
I mean, in regards to the fire surveillance system, I think we can graduate for us to have given the last start the vision of approval issue.

1170
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:53,000
But I'm not sure what can be put in here as a.

1171
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:00,500
Yeah, that's just the only thing we do.

1172
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:06,360
That's the most exciting thing.

1173
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:09,980
Because we don't, we're, we don't look like those to enforce that.

1174
01:38:14,210 --> 01:38:16,050
And does the fire plan thing go?

1175
01:38:16,250 --> 01:38:17,870
I don't know.

1176
01:38:18,070 --> 01:38:19,830
If you're basically the, you guys with a property.

1177
01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:22,690
Yeah, we'll take place in the form of,

1178
01:38:22,690 --> 01:38:24,590
but they'll make a notation to it.

1179
01:38:24,850 --> 01:38:25,330
And then that file.

1180
01:38:27,730 --> 01:38:29,990
I have to hear to those provisions.

1181
01:38:31,490 --> 01:38:32,210
That's okay.

1182
01:38:32,350 --> 01:38:33,690
If anybody building something in there,

1183
01:38:33,890 --> 01:38:35,490
why wouldn't you put it first?

1184
01:38:36,610 --> 01:38:37,130
Be quick.

1185
01:38:37,810 --> 01:38:38,810
No, it's really expensive.

1186
01:38:39,330 --> 01:38:46,990
It's a good chance insurance.

1187
01:38:47,310 --> 01:38:48,870
I mean, I think it's getting harder to.

1188
01:38:50,050 --> 01:38:50,230
Yeah.

1189
01:38:51,670 --> 01:38:52,190
Any.

1190
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,040
In fact, let's move on to the next slide.

1191
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,480
to impacts the natural environment?

1192
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:07,800
On page 11, this was in that with the question I had

1193
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,500
the way they thought is just that in October 1st,

1194
01:39:11,580 --> 01:39:15,060
2-13, that was confused to be 23rd, 23rd, 23rd.

1195
01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:15,840
Yeah, that's right.

1196
01:39:15,980 --> 01:39:18,780
I thought to just 13th, I get a quote number.

1197
01:39:19,340 --> 01:39:22,000
There's a, it's in the middle of the page in 11,

1198
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,420
and it's just right about three effects

1199
01:39:24,420 --> 01:39:26,960
some other service features, the paragraph right about it.

1200
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:34,780
No, sorry, but yeah, it's a type of that I, some of this reddit, it's like it's not up, you know,

1201
01:39:37,860 --> 01:39:44,560
while you're at editing, go back up on paragraph, it says, on here, one exempt will is proposed

1202
01:39:45,140 --> 01:39:45,820
for use.

1203
01:39:53,520 --> 01:40:01,000
So the proposal will include it, I wish it was tough. Well, it says one exempt will is

1204
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:07,740
proposed for use rather than one example, well, is proposed for use, so further out.

1205
01:40:08,420 --> 01:40:09,000
Oh, I see.

1206
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:10,080
Yeah, it's a top paragraph.

1207
01:40:10,340 --> 01:40:11,080
It's a sport lined out.

1208
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,360
In Iconics on the top of page 11.

1209
01:40:17,020 --> 01:40:18,500
I see your documents changed.

1210
01:40:18,660 --> 01:40:19,040
What's your name?

1211
01:40:19,260 --> 01:40:20,060
The new tables.

1212
01:40:21,540 --> 01:40:23,240
The until it's pretty helpful.

1213
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:27,120
So it would be in the middle of paragraph or section here.

1214
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:54,620
I don't know if my eyes are feeling, is finding the redundant, is it the same as finding

1215
01:40:54,620 --> 01:40:54,940
the A?

1216
01:40:57,960 --> 01:40:58,400
Yes.

1217
01:40:58,720 --> 01:40:59,760
Yeah, I thought you saw it earlier.

1218
01:41:00,620 --> 01:41:01,580
I didn't notice that.

1219
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:01,920
Yeah.

1220
01:41:02,060 --> 01:41:02,840
It's just a good detail.

1221
01:41:07,110 --> 01:41:08,230
Really, really.

1222
01:41:08,570 --> 01:41:09,510
What was it seeing?

1223
01:41:09,710 --> 01:41:10,250
It was really.

1224
01:41:10,590 --> 01:41:15,490
So, it's on that A and B. We're going to speak to Anne's

1225
01:41:15,490 --> 01:41:25,190
question that receding 70% coverage is that that's on improved road construction correct, not your house site.

1226
01:41:25,610 --> 01:41:32,650
So they have to demonstrate receding of any improvement they make prior to final pilot approval.

1227
01:41:32,830 --> 01:41:37,770
That does include a house where they will be management plan that talks about going forward.

1228
01:41:38,170 --> 01:41:43,750
So the receding is strictly to the improved road and putting the drainage system and everything else.

1229
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:47,910
before. And then there's no receiving requirement for the actual house construction.

1230
01:41:48,130 --> 01:41:53,370
No, then we manage the plan that requires them to adhere to that. So that's the county's

1231
01:41:53,370 --> 01:41:58,450
attempt to try to capture going forward, but we do have to make sure that they've addressed

1232
01:41:58,450 --> 01:42:05,490
weeds for the roads. I get the house side the road has to be done. Yeah, but I do feel like there

1233
01:42:05,490 --> 01:42:09,910
is a certain kind of thing where you're bringing construction, you know, bringing construction

1234
01:42:09,910 --> 01:42:14,570
to share everything up that road again. You're just going to be, you're going to be, you may be,

1235
01:42:14,670 --> 01:42:18,190
I'm doing all the good work that you did with the seas. I do feel like that's, you know, that doesn't

1236
01:42:18,190 --> 01:42:24,450
like it. I think the danger would be, so say, they do the road, and then it takes some time

1237
01:42:24,450 --> 01:42:28,830
for them to actually break ground on the house. Those weeds are also spreading to neighbors.

1238
01:42:29,590 --> 01:42:34,810
That's what all the invasive is emerged. Yeah, so you've got to get seed on it. Yeah. Yeah.

1239
01:42:34,810 --> 01:42:41,910
So, and that brings up the point back to the agriculture usage and the usage of that

1240
01:42:41,910 --> 01:42:42,250
ditch.

1241
01:42:43,110 --> 01:42:48,450
Um, that, that ditch owner is liable to spray his ditch bank.

1242
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:59,000
There's a lot of existing weed laws that I had never, my question is the enforcing of

1243
01:42:59,000 --> 01:42:59,280
those.

1244
01:43:00,980 --> 01:43:03,040
Yes, correct.

1245
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,120
If there's always the difficult.

1246
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:13,320
So should weed suppression be added to that list of.

1247
01:43:14,140 --> 01:43:16,120
Maintenance of the irrigation facility.

1248
01:43:16,340 --> 01:43:21,100
Yeah, to be that is that's a back to the agriculture thing is.

1249
01:43:22,100 --> 01:43:26,380
Agriculture includes weed management of one kind or another.

1250
01:43:26,380 --> 01:43:30,860
They're very most often with, so

1251
01:43:33,140 --> 01:43:37,580
can are you saying to alert the group or the owner that

1252
01:43:37,580 --> 01:43:41,380
there would be management occurring as part of the discussion?

1253
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:43,980
It makes a condition for somebody else.

1254
01:43:44,440 --> 01:43:45,900
It's a part of this.

1255
01:43:46,440 --> 01:43:48,280
It's a very, because that's kind of what that would be doing.

1256
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:51,540
You've been on the condition on there.

1257
01:43:51,860 --> 01:43:58,560
No, we're, we're saying that the property owner acknowledges that that may,

1258
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:03,420
be a part of. They're watching somebody showing up in your property to spray along the

1259
01:44:03,420 --> 01:44:08,680
jet. Yeah. And the within the prescribed easement. Yeah. That might be one of the, that might

1260
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:15,740
be one of the easement covers. The easement covers. Yeah. But if a future takes exception to the

1261
01:44:15,740 --> 01:44:20,520
chemicals being used, does that need to be addressed? Is that essentially, and I think it's the

1262
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:25,360
way it has to be addressed. It's just that would kind of fall back onto the county when you've

1263
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:35,480
Yeah, you have language in there that says that they're notified that there's an irrigation ditch. There's an easement for maintenance.

1264
01:44:36,700 --> 01:44:37,860
That might be gone.

1265
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:47,180
I don't know that you would have to specify each one.

1266
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:58,560
So going back to the summary of the educational on the road, on the one hand there's the

1267
01:44:58,560 --> 01:44:59,980
The acknowledgement that he put in that...

1268
01:45:00,460 --> 01:45:30,420
If, if your house building is able to happen, really pretty quickly after the road is completed and you've got the platform, the platform, then you may have cherry up all those scenes. On the other hand, if there's a delay, you don't want to have an opportunity to go into the green street generating it. And so, is there, I, is there any language that needs to change with that? I feel like we need it. Some of them for timing issue. And if you don't want to undo your

1269
01:45:30,420 --> 01:45:34,160
good work, and the other things you don't want to let weeds grow, let them spread to neighbors

1270
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:38,880
or spread on your own after the entire year, and that's sure how we reconcile that.

1271
01:45:39,260 --> 01:45:45,280
Yeah, I think it's the idea that those areas that are disturbed part of our plant, we can

1272
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:50,280
go out and make sure they have to demonstrate they've receded their vegetation.

1273
01:45:52,580 --> 01:45:56,720
They don't have to build their house for any period of time, I mean they don't.

1274
01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:02,720
So if you had any of that wheat management plan, now you know that people are going to be residing there and there's going to be activity.

1275
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:09,500
So it goes a step further than state statute that really specifies what the wheat management plan is.

1276
01:46:09,740 --> 01:46:16,400
So there will be a working wheat supervisor to identify what we throw in the property and how to maintain them going forward.

1277
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:27,820
So that's, I think that's the idea between the work that we can oversee and then going

1278
01:46:27,820 --> 01:46:28,320
forward.

1279
01:46:28,780 --> 01:46:34,240
Because again, it impacts to the national environment, not the property on it.

1280
01:46:34,700 --> 01:46:39,280
Do you mean, yeah, so you're kind of thinking in the context of, let's make it easier for

1281
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:46,380
the property of it.

1282
01:46:46,380 --> 01:46:47,680
You know,

1283
01:46:49,920 --> 01:47:00,380
and then the idea is, and I know this is about both in this one and going into the next one, but we control, you know, plan is with the supervisor Theresa.

1284
01:47:00,940 --> 01:47:04,880
Well, do you get trees out there? She's great that she's one person.

1285
01:47:05,940 --> 01:47:11,200
But then you have the next thing going down working with you have a shoot person about plants that don't attract.

1286
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:17,420
So it's kind of a two-stage thing, whether they're talking, I mean, I know the current

1287
01:47:17,420 --> 01:47:23,760
weed control person talks to the current, the super-senif, but whether they'll have it in

1288
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:24,380
the future or not.

1289
01:47:24,660 --> 01:47:29,420
And I think they're trying to differentiate between receding the disturbed areas versus

1290
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,000
the built-in house, and I don't like to see it.

1291
01:47:32,700 --> 01:47:32,860
Yeah.

1292
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:34,200
Yeah.

1293
01:47:34,480 --> 01:47:34,520
Yeah.

1294
01:47:34,820 --> 01:47:36,920
What kind of trees I'm going to plant.

1295
01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:37,880
Yeah.

1296
01:47:37,900 --> 01:47:38,340
Yeah.

1297
01:47:38,340 --> 01:47:39,720
We're a bit different than we can do.

1298
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,580
Sure, we are a card, you know, we have to recede it.

1299
01:47:42,580 --> 01:47:42,760
Yeah.

1300
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:43,520
Revisioning.

1301
01:47:43,660 --> 01:47:43,720
Yeah.

1302
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,800
It's going to be a bit more specific to just landscaping.

1303
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:46,300
Yeah.

1304
01:47:46,500 --> 01:47:46,860
That makes sense.

1305
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:49,900
Yeah, more than anything make the girl.

1306
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:51,440
Or bring a lot of life in school.

1307
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:51,780
Yeah.

1308
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:52,840
Yeah.

1309
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,780
And that's a lot of the better reason stuff.

1310
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:56,680
Yeah.

1311
01:47:56,860 --> 01:47:57,280
Yep, yeah.

1312
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:58,880
All of us.

1313
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,100
Where was that way?

1314
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,220
That was under Wow, like, right?

1315
01:48:04,220 --> 01:48:08,820
The first one was under natural environment and the said was well, okay, that's right.

1316
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:17,960
So under, I'm sorry, 6A or 6, you know, I do want to go back to this comment about which

1317
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:22,080
I think would fall under impact natural environment, the potential for a village.

1318
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,940
Long. Oh, yes.

1319
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,580
I have been to that site.

1320
01:48:33,460 --> 01:48:34,780
It'd be hard to know.

1321
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,820
I think it will be hard to have a yard.

1322
01:48:41,900 --> 01:48:43,560
Maybe a pretty limited building level.

1323
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,140
It's just a company that knows.

1324
01:48:49,140 --> 01:48:54,400
However, I do feel like the intent of the question is really good in going forward.

1325
01:48:54,580 --> 01:48:58,660
This is the big property is, you know, the building envelope is limited.

1326
01:48:58,940 --> 01:49:02,740
There's really, there's, you know, it would be difficult to have any kind of strip of grass.

1327
01:49:02,940 --> 01:49:05,760
And you know, anything other than probably made of plants.

1328
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:10,540
But, you know, as we're looking at crop policy or the regulations or the

1329
01:49:10,540 --> 01:49:14,160
precedent going forward, what is appropriate for us?

1330
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:18,780
ask in terms of landscaping as a good question. I don't think it's that particularly relevant to this

1331
01:49:18,780 --> 01:49:22,980
particular piece of property, but I think the question overall is when we can know what you're thinking

1332
01:49:22,980 --> 01:49:31,180
about. Well, they've not proposed a irrigated lawn and they identified the impacts to ground water

1333
01:49:31,180 --> 01:49:39,460
with the well just servicing the house irrigation. So typically when we have reviewed residential

1334
01:49:39,460 --> 01:49:43,700
subdivisions in the past and that water issue comes up, a lot of times if you're looking at

1335
01:49:43,700 --> 01:49:49,900
multiple lots, they have to calculate not only the usage, but the irrigated, the irrigatable

1336
01:49:49,900 --> 01:49:58,100
area based on that water usage. So we've seen people limit creative building envelope for

1337
01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:03,340
not only the structure, but the amount of irrigatable lawn based on the amount of water that they

1338
01:50:03,340 --> 01:50:05,160
are allocated under the United Police.

1339
01:50:07,180 --> 01:50:11,140
And they are somewhat limited with their 35 gallon of

1340
01:50:11,140 --> 01:50:13,980
and I want to get down even the reason for DNRT,

1341
01:50:15,140 --> 01:50:17,780
it's not a heck of a robust irrigation system.

1342
01:50:18,380 --> 01:50:19,880
But that's sort of the crux of the issue here,

1343
01:50:19,940 --> 01:50:21,560
the fact that the well use is not monitored,

1344
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,700
and if someone were to have extensive landscape,

1345
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:24,760
they would exceed that.

1346
01:50:25,260 --> 01:50:25,580
They could.

1347
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:27,680
Right, and there's no enforcing that.

1348
01:50:29,300 --> 01:50:32,820
Yeah, and because that kind of holds

1349
01:50:32,820 --> 01:50:35,340
out of the county's perspective,

1350
01:50:35,540 --> 01:50:38,260
a little bit that's all under DNRT and more so.

1351
01:50:40,610 --> 01:51:00,150
So what were you saying that if it as part of this process we would usually see if there was intent to for extensive landscaping it would appear as part of the right so they have to identify with their proposing and they have to identify how the water usage identify the water usage for the residential structure.

1352
01:51:00,530 --> 01:51:07,530
Right, but they have not identified or proposed like a lawn or an area that they're going to irrigate.

1353
01:51:09,170 --> 01:51:12,530
They were going to do that, then they would have to include that in their calculations, or how

1354
01:51:12,530 --> 01:51:16,050
to water their planet, or anything. Because, yeah, you could, but one house that only uses

1355
01:51:16,970 --> 01:51:22,410
X number of acre feet per year, and then have a 4 acre, the turkey bluegrass lawn,

1356
01:51:23,170 --> 01:51:25,890
that would use all the rest of it. You know what I mean?

1357
01:51:26,270 --> 01:51:33,050
Oh, I think that's the key concern. They did not propose any kind of lawn or identify that that's what

1358
01:51:33,050 --> 01:51:37,730
they're doing. So if they came back and somebody complained and they'd

1359
01:51:37,730 --> 01:51:41,130
leveled off the whole other side and there was this massive area that we're

1360
01:51:41,130 --> 01:51:43,350
irrigating, that would be contrary to what they applied.

1361
01:51:44,610 --> 01:51:48,730
So what happens in that, I mean, not this case is going to happen, but you know,

1362
01:51:48,750 --> 01:51:51,430
what happens in that case? Again, what's the enforcement for?

1363
01:51:52,130 --> 01:51:54,810
Well, it depends if we're a party to the covenants that there's

1364
01:51:54,810 --> 01:51:59,710
venture accounting could be involved in enforcement. But enforcement's

1365
01:51:59,710 --> 01:52:05,410
complicated and it requires attorney's office that's willing to prosecute things

1366
01:52:05,410 --> 01:52:13,150
are not adhered to and we've seen we've kind of run the gamut with our

1367
01:52:13,150 --> 01:52:16,670
attorney's office and even compliance we have a compliance officer's or

1368
01:52:16,670 --> 01:52:21,630
ability to track violations and put together an actual file and a request for

1369
01:52:21,630 --> 01:52:29,550
prosecution is solid and I think even as a very recently our attorney's

1370
01:52:29,550 --> 01:52:31,470
offices now moving in the direction of enforcement.

1371
01:52:33,590 --> 01:52:44,390
But it's not always consistent because it requires a lot of different departments and elected officials to work together this side of the

1372
01:52:46,970 --> 01:52:55,590
But, theoretically, if we're a party to it, and they're in violation, then we would have the ability to enforce really good.

1373
01:52:56,250 --> 01:52:56,970
Make that the definition.

1374
01:52:57,430 --> 01:53:05,270
We need to put a block in there, and say that we have acknowledged that they did not intend to have not included a footprint of.

1375
01:53:06,510 --> 01:53:11,790
I have that kind of under the last section when I talk about impacts of the subdivision

1376
01:53:11,790 --> 01:53:17,010
regulation for themselves and then what they're proposing is what we're doing and everything

1377
01:53:17,010 --> 01:53:20,950
is based on that and if they make any changes to what they're proposing then that may subject

1378
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:24,790
them to the provisions in the regulations which we may require to be reviewed.

1379
01:53:29,420 --> 01:53:32,540
Any additional findings, changes?

1380
01:53:32,540 --> 01:53:38,000
is just one minor added on the second to last condition.

1381
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:39,680
For you.

1382
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:43,140
Okay.

1383
01:53:44,190 --> 01:53:44,640
Okay.

1384
01:53:44,780 --> 01:53:45,440
16.

1385
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:47,500
Impacts on wildlife.

1386
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:48,580
Old 16.

1387
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:49,100
No.

1388
01:53:50,460 --> 01:53:51,360
Okay.

1389
01:53:55,500 --> 01:53:58,870
Any concerns.

1390
01:54:00,510 --> 01:54:01,450
Additional findings.

1391
01:54:02,290 --> 01:54:03,090
Modifications.

1392
01:54:05,940 --> 01:54:09,760
The only other thing that interacts with the types of wildlife that this also may leave

1393
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:16,940
into, in fact, some wildlife habitat is fencing, there's a property boundaries, a question

1394
01:54:16,940 --> 01:54:23,680
about it's maintenance of boundary fences at one point in reference, and then fencing

1395
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:31,720
to control, it was talking about pest-rounder control, which may imply fencing, but then does

1396
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:36,960
that impede wildlife. I know which is a couple of references to Fencing and I'm not sure if that's

1397
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:46,360
under have it at or under wildlife itself. And I didn't know if there was any sort of,

1398
01:54:48,740 --> 01:54:49,020
you know.

1399
01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:56,320
Yeah, it's under number one, landscaping may attract wildlife, garbage may attract wildlife,

1400
01:54:56,320 --> 01:55:02,160
like foundry fence made heat while wet movement, but then yeah, and then there was, and

1401
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:06,320
there was something on maintenance. So I understand I'll look that up, but it just, um, do

1402
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:11,800
we need, um, in the, in the, in the, the dogs that are in control, I don't know if there's

1403
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:16,460
anything that, it's a contradiction in there between foundry fences, you can pull the

1404
01:55:16,460 --> 01:55:21,920
pets, and then it'll also, I'll look at it and find the, um, maintenance part of the foundry

1405
01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:30,360
I mean, I guess how I interpret this is it's not identified as a critical wildlife habitat or corridor.

1406
01:55:31,100 --> 01:55:38,920
Is that impact? I mean, in that case, it's maybe or not as much of a concern to the work.

1407
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:47,760
I mean, there are times when that really comes into play.

1408
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:51,540
but we've worked at subdivisions in the Bernabeson area.

1409
01:55:51,700 --> 01:55:53,840
The VGA identifies as a profile of a quarter.

1410
01:55:54,180 --> 01:55:54,380
Right.

1411
01:55:54,740 --> 01:55:57,160
And we run into this issue of allowing wildlife

1412
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:00,660
to freely move, also to be in bison property.

1413
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,540
So there's this boundary fences need to be wildlife friendly

1414
01:56:04,540 --> 01:56:06,540
but then you're able usually to.

1415
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:08,540
And then there's the animal migration.

1416
01:56:08,820 --> 01:56:10,000
It's very sensitive to fencing.

1417
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:13,680
So yeah, there are times when that really changes.

1418
01:56:13,980 --> 01:56:14,460
That's the vibe.

1419
01:56:14,460 --> 01:56:20,920
But it seems like this property would not qualify for that level of concern over anything

1420
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:22,260
from FWP.

1421
01:56:22,540 --> 01:56:23,320
I didn't mind that.

1422
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:27,080
In the online information that they've provided and then I looked at.

1423
01:56:27,940 --> 01:56:29,420
Showed it as I could create a wallet.

1424
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:30,540
Okay.

1425
01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:33,860
So the owners are free to put fancy as they see fit.

1426
01:56:36,260 --> 01:56:39,480
I have to maintain my importance with seeing statute of memory and life expenses.

1427
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:45,340
But I thought to say that you guys could not make a finding relative to wildlife habitat and wildlife.

1428
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:47,900
you could make a finding in condition.

1429
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:49,660
He was so difficult to do that.

1430
01:57:02,150 --> 01:57:04,630
It's sort of just with garbage attracting my life.

1431
01:57:04,630 --> 01:57:05,390
I know this.

1432
01:57:06,530 --> 01:57:07,710
It's a simple shooting.

1433
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:13,830
But I don't know if we're able to add a condition.

1434
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:17,500
Do you make a finding?

1435
01:57:17,700 --> 01:57:18,500
You can add a condition.

1436
01:57:18,900 --> 01:57:19,000
Okay.

1437
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:25,560
So there is potential for garbage attracting wildlife.

1438
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:25,780
life.

1439
01:58:16,830 --> 01:58:22,630
And so the condition would be use a, I know they're often called

1440
01:58:22,630 --> 01:58:28,470
bear resistant, but what wildlife resistant containers? Outdoors or?

1441
01:58:47,940 --> 01:58:49,780
Yeah, or

1442
01:58:57,690 --> 01:59:02,150
isn't it recommended that they just keep the garbage in the garage, though? Or in

1443
01:59:02,150 --> 01:59:08,090
the, so there's no garage part of the, what?

1444
01:59:15,500 --> 01:59:25,900
Oh, I guess we don't know, oh, we don't know, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I think we covered pretty well without the work because you can't make people think they're trash inside

1445
01:59:25,900 --> 01:59:37,040
but it's a very, very, very, very, very good job there, totally, but there once they get in it, it's like we're going to get in it.

1446
01:59:39,660 --> 01:59:44,000
Yeah, I mean, you know, they're quite there in the boundaries of the brink, you've got the

1447
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:44,520
way.

1448
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:48,760
Well, you've seen some of the little hoodies.

1449
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:53,520
They can have been upholstery because of things.

1450
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:56,280
Should we say is in low garbage waste?

1451
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:58,280
because I don't know, I'm just...

1452
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:21,620
There's all kinds of stuff you can pile up under your other on the track. What life? What you thinking? Well, you know, you get the old carcass after a hundred days. I know, forming your stuff that kind of gets piled up. That's not what you're trying to say. Yeah, that's true. I don't, I don't know.

1453
02:00:35,390 --> 02:00:35,790
Yeah,

1454
02:00:39,270 --> 02:00:42,030
sorry. I just made that and that was not true. We don't even know if they're

1455
02:00:45,550 --> 02:00:53,390
telling the other expensive alternative, but you're not allowed to have a garage.

1456
02:00:56,150 --> 02:00:56,550
We've

1457
02:00:56,550 --> 02:01:02,720
the house or any of that, yeah, recognize it on other than the site or wild

1458
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:04,700
are. Yeah. We just have materials.

1459
02:01:08,330 --> 02:01:09,790
Yeah. Yeah.

1460
02:01:19,150 --> 02:01:23,130
Anything else on impacts on wildlife habitat?

1461
02:01:24,570 --> 02:01:25,130
Yeah.

1462
02:01:30,790 --> 02:01:31,070
Hello,

1463
02:01:58,620 --> 02:02:01,560
wildlife habitat. Yes. Did you have something you want to

1464
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:05,680
think of something like that? Just the wildlife made travel between summer and winter range habitat

1465
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:09,460
may be impede if the instructions are placed on the property.

1466
02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:20,460
It's similar, but it's limitedified as it is accorded or however, yeah, there could be,

1467
02:02:21,180 --> 02:02:26,060
I don't know, a point in, yeah, what are you wanting to, we're just thinking about

1468
02:02:26,060 --> 02:02:35,520
right, like that they're, you know, limiting jack fence or, you know, fence that is not, does

1469
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:38,700
not, or sheep fence that doesn't prevent movement of wildlife.

1470
02:02:42,510 --> 02:02:46,310
So you're making a your condition?

1471
02:02:47,710 --> 02:02:48,050
Yes.

1472
02:02:48,350 --> 02:02:48,450
Yes.

1473
02:02:48,450 --> 02:02:51,470
I can say you're running again.

1474
02:02:51,710 --> 02:02:52,890
How about moving in the air maybe?

1475
02:02:54,890 --> 02:02:55,510
Yeah.

1476
02:02:56,450 --> 02:02:58,070
Cicero VT and benzene.

1477
02:02:58,570 --> 02:02:58,650
Yeah.

1478
02:02:59,490 --> 02:02:59,970
Right.

1479
02:03:00,450 --> 02:03:02,610
Putting in wildlife friendly attention.

1480
02:03:02,830 --> 02:03:02,990
Whatever.

1481
02:03:03,170 --> 02:03:05,250
There's multiple different designs.

1482
02:03:05,930 --> 02:03:06,150
Yeah.

1483
02:03:06,530 --> 02:03:07,270
But that bill.

1484
02:03:07,550 --> 02:03:09,470
But it's not limiting.

1485
02:03:10,410 --> 02:03:11,090
So to speak.

1486
02:03:11,170 --> 02:03:11,330
Yeah.

1487
02:03:11,330 --> 02:03:15,670
What if your fencing is intended to block wildlife?

1488
02:03:17,150 --> 02:03:18,650
I mean, if you've got something to work about,

1489
02:03:18,750 --> 02:03:22,210
let's come in and eat and you've got some shrubs

1490
02:03:22,210 --> 02:03:23,970
or ornamentals or feed.

1491
02:03:24,890 --> 02:03:25,530
And a garden?

1492
02:03:25,850 --> 02:03:26,610
Organic garden.

1493
02:03:27,750 --> 02:03:28,830
You can say that really.

1494
02:03:28,970 --> 02:03:29,310
You read mama.

1495
02:03:29,730 --> 02:03:30,370
You're talking about it.

1496
02:03:30,610 --> 02:03:30,790
You're talking about it.

1497
02:03:30,850 --> 02:03:31,370
You can say about it.

1498
02:03:31,370 --> 02:03:31,490
You're talking about it.

1499
02:03:31,570 --> 02:03:31,890
You're talking about it.

1500
02:03:31,890 --> 02:03:32,450
You're talking about it.

1501
02:03:33,010 --> 02:03:33,710
You're talking about it.

1502
02:03:34,250 --> 02:03:37,590
Yeah, because a tree, a fence around a tree,

1503
02:03:37,750 --> 02:03:39,430
a garden where necessarily does not

1504
02:03:39,430 --> 02:03:43,890
in P, wildlife movement in the area to go around, but a boundary fence is good.

1505
02:03:46,410 --> 02:03:47,350
Is that the boundary fence?

1506
02:03:47,830 --> 02:03:47,870
Yes.

1507
02:03:48,250 --> 02:03:48,630
I don't know.

1508
02:03:48,930 --> 02:03:51,910
Where are the doctors in control?

1509
02:03:52,450 --> 02:03:53,930
It doesn't necessarily specify fencing.

1510
02:03:55,010 --> 02:03:56,710
And then there's a dog or dog issue.

1511
02:03:56,970 --> 02:03:59,130
It could be a lunch, an hour or five days.

1512
02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:06,480
Anything else on?

1513
02:04:13,270 --> 02:04:14,110
That would you?

1514
02:04:14,430 --> 02:04:14,830
I'm going to say.

1515
02:04:15,910 --> 02:04:18,530
Yeah, addressing the concern for foundry fences alone.

1516
02:04:21,430 --> 02:04:22,070
Yeah.

1517
02:04:22,070 --> 02:04:22,170
Yeah.

1518
02:04:22,450 --> 02:04:22,570
Cool.

1519
02:04:23,050 --> 02:04:25,270
And perhaps

1520
02:04:27,830 --> 02:04:29,430
on public health and safety.

1521
02:04:32,090 --> 02:04:35,610
The concerns, the conditions, log to patients.

1522
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:51,720
I can use clarify under on finding the addition to what did it mean when it says the advocate shall also identify the county as a party to all restrictive comments.

1523
02:04:51,720 --> 02:05:04,960
that's related to fire protection just that really specifies that the county will basically be a party to the government so if they need to be in force that provides us the legal basis to continue to force.

1524
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:13,600
And it also requires them to obtain approval from the governing body if they want to and then their covenants in the future.

1525
02:05:20,780 --> 02:05:21,360
All

1526
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:29,940
right, moving into compliance with the survey requirements in person, wanting

1527
02:05:29,940 --> 02:05:31,340
us to division and planning to act

1528
02:05:33,900 --> 02:05:37,980
any concerns to determine the requirements.

1529
02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:43,990
Section 9, compliance with the provisions of the physical and legal access to each

1530
02:05:43,990 --> 02:05:51,670
in the subdivision and required notification of that access on the applicable plaques and any instrument of transfer concerning the first all

1531
02:05:59,830 --> 02:06:05,930
complies with the provisions of these minutes of the location and installation of any planned utilities.

1532
02:06:08,690 --> 02:06:14,190
Complies would review procedures contained in the park County subdivision regulations and Montana subdivision and planning act.

1533
02:06:16,970 --> 02:06:20,970
consideration of an officially adopted growth policy for the area involved.

1534
02:06:26,330 --> 02:06:26,610
Anything?

1535
02:06:29,050 --> 02:06:31,410
Compliance with the Park County subdivision regulations.

1536
02:06:35,330 --> 02:06:39,630
Any experience changes, additions to those fighting conditions?

1537
02:06:44,780 --> 02:06:55,540
Well, right. We now have concluded our review of the fighting conditions, so we will now move on to a vote.

1538
02:06:56,500 --> 02:07:04,400
It's time for us to determine if one of the following recommendations, the last page,

1539
02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:11,320
recommend me to Google with the findings and conditions included in the administrative

1540
02:07:11,320 --> 02:07:19,810
and the subdivision administrator's report or approving the findings and conditions as

1541
02:07:19,810 --> 02:07:23,610
by the planning board or three denial.

1542
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:33,790
I'll move that we follow option two which is approval of the first

1543
02:07:33,790 --> 02:07:36,190
minor subdivision preliminary flat application

1544
02:07:36,190 --> 02:07:38,270
with the findings and conditions and then the final

1545
02:07:38,270 --> 02:07:39,230
planning board.

1546
02:07:41,390 --> 02:07:42,830
Any more discussion?

1547
02:07:45,350 --> 02:07:46,830
All those in favor say

1548
02:07:46,830 --> 02:07:50,970
I oppose motion passes.

1549
02:07:55,550 --> 02:07:56,030
I'm wrong.

1550
02:07:56,610 --> 02:07:57,750
You're out of here.

1551
02:07:58,570 --> 02:07:58,850
I'm not.

1552
02:08:00,370 --> 02:08:01,110
I'm not.

1553
02:08:01,110 --> 02:08:01,810
Oh my god.

1554
02:08:01,870 --> 02:08:03,430
I'm such a nice.

1555
02:08:03,530 --> 02:08:03,890
You're not.

1556
02:08:04,130 --> 02:08:04,810
All right.

1557
02:08:04,970 --> 02:08:06,530
We'll be along planning department update.

1558
02:08:07,770 --> 02:08:08,550
I'm going to.

1559
02:08:09,230 --> 02:08:09,650
I'm.

1560
02:08:12,290 --> 02:08:13,730
Thank you.

1561
02:08:13,870 --> 02:08:14,770
Thank you.

1562
02:08:18,870 --> 02:08:37,470
I'm a major one. I'm going to be very Christmas. Yeah, right. I apologize for that, but given our very limited time-trained tour of these things, and hopefully there won't be another one. There's another one coming, but I don't think we'll get to it in the next month.

1563
02:08:37,470 --> 02:08:40,850
I mean, we can't know where it is or anything, so we're going to be able to do that.

1564
02:08:41,290 --> 02:08:42,150
I'm sure you can.

1565
02:08:42,370 --> 02:08:49,510
Well, it's located near the East Interchange, 40 acres, 12 log commercial, if you want to

1566
02:08:49,510 --> 02:08:50,910
come in and see anything.

1567
02:08:51,090 --> 02:08:51,370
Okay.

1568
02:08:51,950 --> 02:08:56,190
Or I can start the one out in your heart can in Stafford.

1569
02:08:56,630 --> 02:08:56,790
Yep.

1570
02:08:56,910 --> 02:09:03,570
So it's in between heart K, highway 10, Stafford, and I 90, that's the last triangle.

1571
02:09:03,570 --> 02:09:10,950
And it's a piece of pretty I think it's just right now it's 220 a person. We're going to aggregate those two and then divide into 12 lots.

1572
02:09:11,330 --> 02:09:18,630
Okay, that's the proposal. Okay, why don't they want to do with the 12 last commercial, sell them individually for commercial development.

1573
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:30,100
And then conservation needs to be out. We may have another conservation reason. Okay, for next month, we're scheduled to meet on the 19th or 5 o'clock.

1574
02:09:30,100 --> 02:09:43,690
I think we're providing a video on the meeting that the commission had on Wednesday to talk about growth, generally.

1575
02:09:45,410 --> 02:09:46,750
They didn't make any decisions.

1576
02:09:48,430 --> 02:09:52,430
Three commissioners provided very, very different opinions.

1577
02:09:53,190 --> 02:09:59,390
But I do think they're going to need on Tuesday and potentially discuss a response whether to bring forward any kind of action item.

1578
02:09:59,390 --> 02:10:05,990
And a lot of what they talked about was the notion of future consideration of growth,

1579
02:10:06,230 --> 02:10:08,030
its impacts, and how to address it.

1580
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:14,930
That may involve planning board, some talk about community meetings, things about nature.

1581
02:10:16,390 --> 02:10:21,750
Was that an insight on commercial and industrial and not really what was said about because of

1582
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:21,910
that?

1583
02:10:22,010 --> 02:10:22,210
Okay.

1584
02:10:22,210 --> 02:10:30,070
the kind of ongoing conflict in land use is that yeah local crop of time because our conservation which people

1585
02:10:30,070 --> 02:10:35,810
was asked. Yeah, Julian Kelly. Well, I was there. There were about I would say over 100 people present.

1586
02:10:36,890 --> 02:10:40,610
This was yesterday, right? Yeah, yesterday morning. Yeah, we're basically attended for sure.

1587
02:10:42,230 --> 02:10:47,470
Did I miss anything there? So, I don't know. No, I didn't. You should go to spoke. Yeah. Nothing,

1588
02:10:47,470 --> 02:10:50,990
definitive but it sounds like they're looking to potentially try to as

1589
02:10:50,990 --> 02:10:56,730
commission decide how to move forward. I think you've heard that people really

1590
02:10:56,730 --> 02:11:01,370
want to do that and so I think they took that seriously. So what does it mean

1591
02:11:01,370 --> 02:11:05,790
move forward? Well that's where we don't know. Well I hope that was I think that's

1592
02:11:05,790 --> 02:11:12,130
TBD. Well you probably were we going to find out how we need for it. Yeah they

1593
02:11:12,670 --> 02:11:16,250
identified I'll look into it but when you really got down to the kind of the

1594
02:11:16,250 --> 02:11:20,250
closing sentiment of the commission, the three

1595
02:11:20,250 --> 02:11:23,190
could have been further apart, never really.

1596
02:11:23,650 --> 02:11:25,230
We've had very different perspectives.

1597
02:11:27,530 --> 02:11:29,470
So now I'll have them make that decision.

1598
02:11:30,130 --> 02:11:32,050
And then of course, Quint's not going,

1599
02:11:32,370 --> 02:11:35,750
but then you'll have new suggestion there.

1600
02:11:36,770 --> 02:11:39,050
And so, I don't know.

1601
02:11:39,050 --> 02:11:42,910
And we all know that Tara resigned.

1602
02:11:42,910 --> 02:11:49,770
so we will re-notice another advertisement to fill her seat. There are three

1603
02:11:49,770 --> 02:11:51,830
positions turning out,

1604
02:11:54,210 --> 02:11:56,350
so we will have we already done that advertising.

1605
02:11:56,930 --> 02:12:02,070
We've already begun to advertise it, so please, you know, you can only look at it,

1606
02:12:02,070 --> 02:12:06,130
you can feel like they're possible online, the TVs that are all in our

1607
02:12:06,130 --> 02:12:07,290
I don't know, my grocery stores.

1608
02:12:07,570 --> 02:12:07,810
Carving.

1609
02:12:10,610 --> 02:12:12,910
Give us your application for free.

1610
02:12:14,770 --> 02:12:15,250
Reconciliation.

1611
02:12:17,970 --> 02:12:20,690
Those of you who are in the afternoon.

1612
02:12:21,070 --> 02:12:24,010
Yeah, these are just, I think it's Ann and Zach.

1613
02:12:24,750 --> 02:12:25,370
We know that.

1614
02:12:26,050 --> 02:12:27,350
Yeah, the two of us.

1615
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:28,770
Is it just you?

1616
02:12:29,050 --> 02:12:29,730
Yeah, I believe so.

1617
02:12:30,330 --> 02:12:32,090
And then Tara's.

1618
02:12:32,970 --> 02:12:35,950
Well, and then you as well.

1619
02:12:36,270 --> 02:12:36,550
Sorry.

1620
02:12:36,550 --> 02:12:40,470
Very unfortunately, but yes, you jump right into the line.

1621
02:12:41,330 --> 02:12:42,850
I appreciate it.

1622
02:12:43,550 --> 02:12:44,990
Maybe after snout you out second thoughts.

1623
02:12:45,590 --> 02:12:45,670
Yeah.

1624
02:12:49,150 --> 02:12:51,990
Board correspondence and future discussion items.

1625
02:12:52,530 --> 02:12:55,930
Any board for respondents to report for discussed?

1626
02:12:56,750 --> 02:12:58,150
Through discussion and.

1627
02:13:00,110 --> 02:13:01,810
Future agenda items.

1628
02:13:03,270 --> 02:13:04,790
Like we are against all.

1629
02:13:05,310 --> 02:13:08,230
And just know that after December, we'll go into January,

1630
02:13:08,490 --> 02:13:12,150
that would be election of officers, potential new board members.

1631
02:13:13,070 --> 02:13:16,110
And then I ended with all the water resource information

1632
02:13:16,110 --> 02:13:19,610
that we were hoping to get at, a lot of those folks said,

1633
02:13:19,610 --> 02:13:21,930
yeah, anything I have to look at the starting to be in here.

1634
02:13:22,070 --> 02:13:24,450
I don't know that January would be the best meeting for that

1635
02:13:24,450 --> 02:13:27,810
just because of the weekend time and daytime schedule.

1636
02:13:27,990 --> 02:13:31,250
That there's a lot of housekeeping work.

1637
02:13:32,350 --> 02:13:47,670
But I'll be thinking about that because as soon as you guys are ready for that, then I can reach back out. Yeah, that was about last time. Yeah, training about waterishings. Yeah, and it was what the water board and fresh water partner as some other organism.

1638
02:13:47,670 --> 02:13:48,250
in the federal mine.

1639
02:13:48,710 --> 02:13:48,850
Sorry.

1640
02:13:49,210 --> 02:13:49,830
Every reminder.

1641
02:13:50,130 --> 02:13:51,950
You were calling for some of our partners.

1642
02:13:53,370 --> 02:13:56,970
Ashley with the watershed, she was going to watershed group.

1643
02:14:00,650 --> 02:14:01,440
When you weaver.

1644
02:14:02,660 --> 02:14:03,280
Wells.

1645
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:04,700
Special partners.

1646
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:05,380
Constitution.

1647
02:14:05,620 --> 02:14:06,160
Matters.

1648
02:14:07,300 --> 02:14:07,920
Minds.

1649
02:14:08,600 --> 02:14:09,220
Great.

1650
02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:11,660
I think it would be great to have that.

1651
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:15,760
I think it just seems like such a pertinent just think man needs.

1652
02:14:16,760 --> 02:14:18,100
It's just so important.

1653
02:14:19,160 --> 02:14:26,410
And then I remember how we talked about potentially hiring, hiring hydro solutions to develop

1654
02:14:28,680 --> 02:14:37,340
basically a guide for some division review going forward at Boundary for water related

1655
02:14:37,340 --> 02:14:37,780
issues.

1656
02:14:38,220 --> 02:14:42,320
The idea would be for them to create a terminology and type of information we need from

1657
02:14:42,320 --> 02:14:48,800
the density of the media are better equipped to catalyze it. They wanted 9,500 for it,

1658
02:14:48,920 --> 02:14:56,480
and I tried to get Montana Association planners to pay for it so no humans said yes. Montana

1659
02:14:56,480 --> 02:14:59,700
association counties and I've reached out to the community tech bills.

1660
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:20,760
This is program through public commerce, so far no bites. So, would like to move that forward. I will be a big help for me and private board and anybody else to say my answer to the subdivisions. That's why I was hoping others would contribute, but I'll provide you with our finance director to see if there's a way we can cover it.

1661
02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:27,480
You might show the conservation district and Ashley in the watershed, because some

1662
02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:30,500
of their partners and some of what they pull in might be interested in that as well.

1663
02:15:31,040 --> 02:15:36,480
I mean, ultimately decision to affect a lot of those things that happen within those agencies

1664
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:40,900
so it's kind of the same in the answer, put that on the radar as well.

1665
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:44,380
Yeah, I hope you have it done by now with the fundraising for our sister.

1666
02:15:45,980 --> 02:15:46,620
Pretty skilled.

1667
02:15:46,620 --> 02:15:47,560
or

1668
02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:54,390
I'm going to open it for additional public comment.

1669
02:15:57,970 --> 02:15:59,730
Very thoughtfully review.

1670
02:16:00,310 --> 02:16:00,450
Okay.

1671
02:16:01,070 --> 02:16:01,510
Sorry when.

1672
02:16:01,770 --> 02:16:03,030
Very thoughtfully review.

1673
02:16:03,490 --> 02:16:04,810
Thank you.

1674
02:16:05,570 --> 02:16:06,970
Anyone online?