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Okay. Good evening again. Welcome everyone. Thank you for being here for this meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission.

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On this second day of September, 2026. It's nice to have people out there. Could we have a roll call?

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Yes, Chair Madingley.

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Commissioner Pantachali.

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Here.

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Commissioner McNally.

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Commissioner Rose Absent.

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Commissioner Healey.

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Commissioner Pierce.

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Here.

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Is here.

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Commissioner Eggard.

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We have a quorum.

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Wonderful.

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Okay.

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Moving along.

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Could I have a motion with regard to the minutes.

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Approval of the minutes from the last meeting.

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is everybody had a chance to look at them in any questions, questions, every motion?

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I will make a motion to approve.

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Second.

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Second.

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Thank you.

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I do have two.

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Two.

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Typos.

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They're very small.

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Discussion items.

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Paragraph.

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Section one.

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Second paragraph.

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Get garnering more interest in application submittals.

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I think there should be an S there.

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And then, a few paragraphs down,

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a planner scope already stated that he's in the process of discussing this,

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I strike the word over.

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It's discussing this with the public works department.

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But other than that, I think it's just fine.

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You're welcome.

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I'm sorry, I'm picky sometimes.

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All right, Kim, we have a vote saying all in favor of approving

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with those slight little tweaks.

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All in favor?

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All right.

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Any opposed?

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Wonderful, thank you.

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All right.

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We have no designation review cases tonight,

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but we do have two 100-year-old houses

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that we want to celebrate.

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The first one is OH2604 at 116 Bellplane Avenue.

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Would you like to review your memo?

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Thank you, Chair. As introduced, this is 1-1-6 Bell Plain Avenue, case number OH-2-6-0-0-0-0-4.

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Robert and Anna Kerber, applicant and owner of 1-1-6 Bell Plain Avenue, are applying for the 100-year-old home certificate from the Historic Preservation Commission for their single family home.

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According to Cook County Treasurer records, the House's Honey of Year 100 years old in the

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came the structure was built in 1926.

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The information provided by the applicant and the supporting documentation from Cook County

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records indicate the property meets the qualifications for a hundred-year-old home certificate.

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The applicant is here and staff is here if you have any questions.

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Does anyone have any questions of staff?

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Anybody have a question of the applicant?

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I can tell you a little bit about the house.

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Perfect.

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How long have you lived in it?

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Wow.

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One, that's the way.

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Could you identify, could you identify yourself first?

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So we have in the notes.

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My name is Robert Kerber, KER, B.E.R.

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Thank you.

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Yes, we purchased the house above 50 years ago.

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My wife and I, she loved the house when she saw it.

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And I think we're only the third

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people that's lived in the house. It's a raised ranch. It's a stucco house with a

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a tile green tile roof. It's kind of an unusual roof. I didn't really care for the roof at the time,

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but we've come to love the house and we love the neighborhood and in the neighbors.

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That's wonderful. That roof probably has a long life. Yes, the tiles roof. There used to be a mirror

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one next to us, which no one took care of, and they knocked it down, so we're the only

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only one left like that, and it's kind of an unusual house.

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Well, thank you very much.

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Could I have a motion with regard to...

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Oh man, make a motion.

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I motion that the HPC approved the 100-year-old home certificate for the single family home

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at one 16-bell plane avenue as shown in the submitted plans attached to the staff for memorandum

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case number o h-6-0-4 there a second thank you all in favor any opposed

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All right. Well, you get a birthday card.

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Would you

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like to come forward and have your picture taken?

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We have the certificate available for you to take home with you.

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Thank you, congratulations.

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All right.

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And we have a second-hundred-year-old house

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that we got a sub-middle-on for this meeting tonight.

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It's a case number OH2605 at 108 north-mirall street.

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Would you like to speak to the question?

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Thank you chair as introduced.

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This is 108 North Merrill Street,

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Case Number, OHDS-26-05.

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Keith Henneman and Alice Dote,

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Elster Brinsky,

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Applicant Owner of 108 North Merrill Street,

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or applying for the 100 year old homes certificate

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on the historic preservation commission

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for the single family home,

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kind of to cook county treasury records,

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the house is 100 years old

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years old and decaying the structure was built in 1926. The information provided by the applicant

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and the supporting documentation from Cook County records indicate the property meets the qualifications

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for a hundred-year-old home certificate. The applicant is present. Staffs here if you have any questions.

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Does anyone on the commission have questions of staff? No. Any questions of the owner?

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Would you like to say anything since you're here?

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Introduce yourself.

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Hi, I'm Alice.

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I'm Brent ski.

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And I'm Keith Henneman.

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And we've had the house about 11 years and have really worked to preserve the details.

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So for example, we have, there's a chandelier in the dining room and we had, you know,

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wasn't working.

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And we took it to the lamp shop to have it rewired.

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and they told us that it was likely from the 40s.

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So it's just really nice to have some of those,

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there's even like old tyrax that are attached

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to the inside of some of the closets,

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and we just left them in there.

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It's really fun, yeah.

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And it's interesting because it's a yellow brick

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Chicago bungalow, and so what I love so much about the neighbors

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that we're in is that there's so much different architecture in there, and wouldn't you know

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it? There is a house that is almost exactly like ours right next door. So like they were built

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around the same. And I can tell that for sure because we found like an archived photo from the Tribune.

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It was like an aerial photo from I think I think it was in the early 30s or late 20s. And

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It's a photo of looking northwest toward the country club.

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And there's nothing beyond the country club.

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It's just forest.

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And you can look on our street.

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And there's maybe total under a dozen houses on there.

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And square in the middle of the street are these two Chicago bungalows,

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just right next to each other.

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So it's been pretty awesome just to be able to just

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enjoy the place and the history of it. Wonderful. Would someone like to make a motion with

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regard to issuing a certificate to celebrate a 100? Okay. I got it down. Okay, I motion that

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the HPC approved the 100 year old home certificate for the single family home at 1 0 8 north

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as shown in the submitted plans attached to the staff memorandum, case 0H-2605.

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There is second.

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Thank you. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Wonderful. Congratulations. Thank you.

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Thank you. I mean, this house looks beautiful.

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Thank you. I mean, really, the landscaping, everything is just beautiful.

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Awesome. Thank you so much.

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Did you do it the work yourself?

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Or did you?

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The landscaping, we soon after we moved in, we hired, like a landscape architect, there we go, they go designer, yes, from here in Park Ridge, and they did a gorgeous job.

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Would you like to have your picture taken?

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you.

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You're all welcome to stay.

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You might be interested in what we're doing next.

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right. Thank you very much. If you'd like to stay, I'm serious. You might enjoy the next part of our meeting.

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We have several discussion items, but the first one is a presentation of the survey that was conducted of the L-hage's area east of the city hall here.

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We call it sometimes the pretzel area because there are a few curving streets in there

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Oh, I forgot the awards

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Do we can do that later?

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No, we can do that later. Let's let's do the presentation. Get to work

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Would you like to introduce yourself and your firm and yes?

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I'm Erica Rizero with the firm McGuire-Gasping Associates. We are a

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are 25 years. And we were selected to do the historic, the intensive historic resources for

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the El Hajj's Edition, which I was speaking to as soon as I get this button.

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And also, at

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16 South Washington in our survey area, there is an identical bungalow to one way to work

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The little tidbits that you can tell us.

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I've seen that one before.

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It's the other mirroring.

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This is the mirror.

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The blue goes away.

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Technology.

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What would we do without it?

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It's almost full screen.

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It's almost full screen.

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It's working on the manga there.

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It's just not working up there.

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Oh, um, but it's, it's working here, so we want them to see it.

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do you want to come and sit and come feature?

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It's perfectly okay. We don't fight.

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Come on around.

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And I try this, the USB-C.

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That's a nice view.

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Yeah, like that one.

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Wait, what is it?

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I was like, wait, is it my cat?

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Screen doesn't even look on.

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Well, let me open this one now, that way we can,

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yeah, if everyone can see

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Okay, we should be good, okay.

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Well, it's good to see most of you again.

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It's been a few months since I've been here,

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but we are quickly approaching the end

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to the El Hodges Historic Resources Survey.

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Last week I did like a final QAQC review.

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It's going to go off to Shippo for their blessing

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and final review.

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that's the state historic preservation of that.

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I'll try to say the first one out and then so tonight I just want to do a presentation for the commission in the public on what the survey was in some of our findings and recommendations and as sort of a little run through before we present the survey to city council hopefully next month.

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So, Project Purpose, as I mentioned, this was a intensive historic resources survey, which was

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initiative led by the Historic Preservation Commission for the City to document the existing

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built environment of historically what was the El Hajj's edition, and I'll speak to what that was

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in a moment. As Joan mentioned, it's colloquially known as the Prencil, Neighborhood. It is the area

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you can see here, bounded by about Butler place on the north,

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vine Avenue or the railroad right away on the east,

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bell plain avenue on the south,

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and then the east side of Portland Avenue on the west.

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And the documentation of the survey

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was really driven by several historic preservation goals

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identified by the city, including the promotion

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of preservation through the identification

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of historical, cultural, and architecturally significant resources,

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and then dissemination of the neighborhood's history.

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Collaboration with other entities, including the State Historic Preservation Office,

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which is actually assisting with project funding through a certified local government grant.

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And then the last school was to support the critical implementation

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of these survey programs outlined in the city's 2024 Historic Preservation Plan.

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So the intensive survey really will support these goals by cataloging each resource, there are

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193 primary resources within the survey area, plus two parks, rotary and ridge park.

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And it prepares an accompanying survey report that catalogs the neighborhood's physical

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setting, character, sense of place and contextual history. The report further documents the

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textural heritage of the El Hajj's edition over the last 150 years. It was first plated in 1873,

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or 1872, 1873, and that architectural heritage is really illustrated by the existing architectural

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styles and building types that I'll talk to in a little bit. So a little bit about our project

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methodology, prior to beginning the survey, the city of Park Ridge actually provided us an initial

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list of addresses and a survey boundary, which is the red area on the map.

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From the initial list, we developed the digital resource inventory utilizing the ArcGIS

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certainly 1, 2, 3 program, and that eventually was actually created or transformed into an

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interactive web map, which I'll show at the end of the presentation.

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The inventory catalogs all individual property documentation, including address, still the

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type, style, historic information, including owner, architect if we could find it, and data

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construction.

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And I also provided a detailed architectural picture for each of those properties within

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the survey area.

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As the field survey.

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We then completed our civil research on each property. We went to repositories at the City of Parkridge, the Parkridge Public Library, the Parkridge Historical Society, and then tons of online, digitally-available archives including local histories, real estate listings, city directories, newspaper articles, historic maps, survey plots, and historic photos.

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We also went through building trade and real state periodicals, including the economists, American

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contractor, and the real state and building journal.

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And research was really conducted to obtain that data on each property's date of construction.

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We don't have original permits available.

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And Cook County can be accurate, but it's usually off by a few years.

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The data construction sometimes can reflect when

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this is reflected on the property.

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And so, we really want to get all the information accurate

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and as close to the original data construction and original owner as possible.

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We also studied broader patterns of history, including

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we mapped all the overland routes that really started in the 1830s

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and some of them obviously hundreds of years prior with indigenous settlement.

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But we really want to understand how indigenous and non-indigenous settlers came to the area

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that is Park Ridge.

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Buildings were then evaluated against both the landmark designation standards as well as

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National Register of Criteria for Evaluation.

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So we can make recommendations for any properties that may be eligible for individual esteem

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or as part of a potential future historic district and we do have several recommendations

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which I'll speak to you towards the end of the presentation.

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Following the completion of field work, data entry and archival research,

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we then prepared a comprehensive survey report on not only the history of the addition

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and its development but also the historic built environment. And then based on that data,

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we created several recommendations to support future preservation of the historic resources

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in the survey area.

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A little bit on the history and development of

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park bridge, but then the L-Hodges edition.

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So the survey area is located on the Central and

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Central Lands, there we go.

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Of the Alainai, the Council of the Three Fires and the

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Sock Tribe.

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Reminders of park bridges, indigenous history can be found in

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nearby landmarks.

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This includes the route of the Northwest Highway through

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Park Ridge, which was originally a trail used by

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Native Americans to connect their waterways, hunting

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ground's invillages. I love this map from really from 1900, but it's depicting all indigenous

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settlements, trails, mountains, and shipping stations in the year 1804, and you can see

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a little park ridge. Call out there's a lot of indigenous activity happening within the present

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day area of park ridge. The Northwest Highway was originally known as the Chicago Displains Road,

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at least in the 1840 Federal Township plant.

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It was an extension of a larger route from Chicago

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to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, predominantly

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that ran along Milwaukee Avenue today.

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And before it was known as the Northwest Highway,

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it was ran road and connected Park Ridge and Displanes,

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which Displanes was originally known

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as the settlement of Rand.

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Another reminder of indigenous history of Park Ridge

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is a nearby group of forest preserves.

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you have, if I'm sure you're all familiar, bunker hill,

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Sydney Yates, flat woods, and Edgebrook woods,

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before their designations as force preserves,

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these were actually all Native American reservations.

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Predominantly four members of the Potawatomi tribe.

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But by 1860s, they had all been sold off

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to non-indigenous settlers.

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As we kind of get deeper into the 1800s,

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Cook County was officially established in 1831.

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This is 1841, a flatman of main township.

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You can see the survey area in the red bounding box.

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By 1840, around the time of this map,

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the communities of Wheeling will met Lyons.

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Summit will, Willow Springs, Blue Island,

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and Thorin among many others, were thriving

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agricultural centers within Cook County.

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In 1848, we have, we got our current form

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of township government, and Cook County was subdivided into 27 townships, including Maine.

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The Displains River runs north the south through the township, flanked by dense woodlands,

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creating a very fertile, rich farmland and abundance of raw materials, which really

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Are you through settlers?

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To the area, and settlement was then cow-wise by the first roads in the township, including Talcott Road, which was also first established by name Americans, following Union Ridge. Then we have River Road, Higgins Road, and then Rand Road, or Northwest Highway.

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The first non-Indigenous seller to the area that would become Maine Township was Captain

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Wright in 1832, who settled along the Northwest Highway, right in between the communities

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of Displains in Park Ridge.

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A wave of settlers from New York and New England primarily arrived in 1833, 1834, settling

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along the banks of the Displains River, immediately west of present day Park Ridge.

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In 1835, Captain Mansel Talka, a New York settled near the crossing of what is today to

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Avenue and the river, and on this site he established the first post office outside of Chicago

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as well as a trading post.

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His son Mansel Talka Jr. settled at the intersection of the historic news of Brickton

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and Cainfield, which he'll talk about in a minute, on the south side of to Avenue, and

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constructed one of the first houses, they're not the first in present day park bridge.

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The early settlement period of main township really came to an end with the arrival of the Chicago and Northwestern Railway in 1854, which then began passenger service the following year.

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And the railroad really ushered in a new area for the communities of main township, and most notably Park Ridge, which was first established as the community of Honeyville in 1854.

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With the arrival of the railroad early settlers in search of clay opened a brick yard that same year in the vicinity of a present day intersection in Northwest Highway in 2 Avenue.

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The company manufactured press brick until 1866 when it was sold and it really created the first building material for many of park bridges permanent brick structures.

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The community that's spring up around this new industry was named Pennyville after one of the founders of the company, George Penny.

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But it was renamed Brickton at the request of Penny in about circa 1857, 1858.

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A depot and a post office were established in the fledging community in 1856.

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Though development in Brickton remains slow throughout the 1850s and 1860s,

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Growth was slowly capitalized with the establishment of a lumber yard,

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Plainy Mill, and a sash door and blind factory in the mid-1860s,

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but it really didn't pick up until the Great Chicago Fire of 1871,

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which brought in influx of people to Britain. Two years later,

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two years later residents voted to incorporate the community

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as the village of Park Ridge and the incorporation ceremony in 1873

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like one of my favorite stories of Park Ridge,

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they allegedly sent the, they sent balloons

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in like the name of Brickton up into the air,

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as they like re-crisis into the community as Park Ridge,

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and they just let Brickton like float off into the,

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into the sunrise, which I think is really,

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really wholesome and funny.

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Over the next decades, Park Ridge

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worked to establish its identity as a picturesque railroad

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would suburb with the acquaintance and charm of a new England town.

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The newly-christian communities swiftly set to work in proving the village.

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The year after incorporation, a central water system was established as well as the first

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Augustine well.

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However, the progress was short-lived, because the brickyards, which was the primary manufacturing

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economy, went into decline, and so the community pivoted.

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It was still a predominantly rural and agrarian, so the community, several members of the community

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opened greenhouses on either side of the railroad tracks, and then also increased their

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agrarian activities, including chicken farming, which was one of the main ones.

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Throughout the last decade of the 19th century, village improvements continue to evolve with

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a construction of a large granary school in 1893, which was on the present side of the library.

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And then obviously, the library was set in motion in 1898 with a donation from Andrew Carnegie,

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though the 15 years before the library was completed.

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At the beginning of the 20th century, residents pushed for a change to the city form of government,

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spurred by the need for paved streets in an upgraded sewer system.

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So we had our first city council meeting in July 1910.

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In the following two decades, Park Ridge experienced a major building boom,

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city dwellers in Chicago, discover the clean residential settings. Alongside these

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modern improvements in an influx and population, the city retained its classic small

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town feel. I have lots of social clubs and festivals along with...

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It was town safety and an abundance of community services. Also, in this period, real state listings began pushing health as a major reason to move to Park Ridge.

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They felt the city of Chicago was experiencing an ever-increasing population growth and then a result.

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And as a result, population or pollution had become a great concern. And so now you have a new influx of residents moving to Park Ridge during the early 20th century.

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And alongside a thriving city of Park Ridge, the El Hodges Edition was built.

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In the 1860s, this area was south of the railroad tracks into Yavaneu, and it was known

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as the small village of Kingfield, however the land was largely undeveloped.

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Almost concurrently with the Great Chicago Fire, again 1871 was the purchase of about 250 acres

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by prolific real estate developer Leonard Hodges of this area. Between 1871 and 1872 Hodges

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began dividing the land into large residential parcels, wide streets, and sidewalks. His goal

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was to create a picturesque neighborhood with winding streets and lots large enough to give each home

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privacy, as well as a substantial yard, complete with vegetable gardens, fruit trees, and flower beds.

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Nearby Leonard Hodges donated the land for a park Hodges Park, which would be situated at the heart of the city.

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Soon thereafter, wealthy individuals construct their homes along Park Place in the Hodges Edition.

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The area was close to the train station and downtown commercial corridor.

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South of Park Place homes were constructed throughout the addition in the 180s and 180s,

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many of these in Victorian styles including Queen Anne and the Schingel style.

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The 1900s, the frequency of commuter trains increased to part-rich, this drew a new population

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of upper middle-class commuters to haggis addition.

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To accommodate the growing population, some blocks in the haggis addition were then subdivided

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into smaller, more affordable parcels, and was during this period that you have many pre-fabricated

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or kit homes introduced into the addition, or the Chicago bungalow, and we'll talk a little

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more about the built environment and how that's reflected, how that reflects the history of the

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edition today.

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Since 1872, the El Hajj's edition has experienced several waves of development,

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that have shaped its present feel and visual character. The edition has retained some key features

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from the early development period, which was about 1872 to 1890. But most of the extent built

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environment was constructed between 1890 and 1930, corresponding with the city's primary land boom.

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As part of the survey, all principal buildings were categorized, first by building type, and then by architectural style.

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Buildings were identified by their type, which really describes the general form, features and shapes commonly found in historic American residences.

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Availability of materials and local determine the type of structural systems, materials and millwork found in these buildings.

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Oradimental and stylistic characteristics of an architectural style such as craftsmen, Queen Anne, or Colonial Revival,

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were then applied to the exterior of the time and construction, bringing in those details of a specific architectural style.

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This slide just represents a few of the building technologies. There's a small tabulation in the bottom right corner.

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There are six different building typologies within the El Hodges Survey area.

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There's several, I think the highest are the American Forest Square in the bungalow, and

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you can see that in the center and top-right photo of the top row.

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But the overwhelming building typology is the single family residence, and over 60 percent

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of the primary resources within the survey area.

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within the survey report, which will be available online, hopefully to the public, all the

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building types and architectural styles are defined.

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The architectural heritage of the City of Park Ridge is then further expressed through

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the diversity of architectural styles found within the survey area.

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I think there's about like two to three dozen different ones.

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In architectural style is well defined by common features that are distinctive in overall

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massing floor plan materials in detail.

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They may be architect designed or at least display a conscious

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attempt to incorporate typical architecture features of the period.

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Of the 193 principal buildings in the survey area, 171

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or just under 90% can be classified as having an architectural style,

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whether it's a pure example, a hybrid of styles,

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or just a few small...

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Our architectural styles, in the survey area, include craftsmen, colonial revival, minimal traditional tutor, Queen Anne,

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Mansored as well as new traditional.

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After we got through all of the history and the built environment,

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we then looked at evaluating each resource for either eligibility to be listed on the National Register,

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or designated a local landmark.

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We utilize for the local landmarking, we utilize the landmark criteria, established in the

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Park Ridge Code of Ordinances, and for the National Register, we use the criteria

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evaluation established by the National Park Service.

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Properties were first evaluated for their age and integrity, under the National Park

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Services Criteria, a property must be at least 50 years of age to first be considered,

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whereas under the Code of Ordinances for the City, there's no age requirement, so

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really all properties all 193 were evaluated for eligibility,

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at least under local landmarking.

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Following the determination of age eligibility,

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all properties were then evaluated for the architectural integrity.

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Integrity consideration refers the degree of original design

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and historic material remaining in place,

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with specific attention to the property's location,

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setting, design, and materials.

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So some properties built during the historic period of development for the El Hajj's edition,

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which is really focused on 1873 to 1968, obviously many of them exist, but if they are altered

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so that the original design intent cannot be discerned, they have a lower architectural

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integrity and were determined to be ineligible for listing or designation.

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So of the 193 principal resources survey, 10 were found to be individually eligible and

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to assess significant architectural or historical significance

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to be designated as a local landmark.

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Simultaneously, 121 properties were determined

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to have sufficient integrity and contribute

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to the broader character and sense of place

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for the L-Hodges edition,

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warrant further research into establishing

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a local landmark district around the L-Hodges edition.

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The survey area would be the district we roughly bounded by Courtland Avenue to the West,

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Butler Place on the North, the Union Pacific Railroad Tracks to the East, and then

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Bell Plane on the South.

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It is our recommendation though that prior to undertaking any historic district designation,

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there are other areas in the immediate vicinity of our survey area, which were historically

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associated with the L-Hage's addition that should also be surveyed to make sure that the district fully encompasses.

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And the either the L-Hage's addition or at least is a fully educated decision is made before the boundaries of the district are set.

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With National Redshirt listing of the 193 principal buildings,

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At least three were determined to meet the age and integrity requirements as well as the National Register of Criteria for Evaluation.

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Also simultaneously, it's our recommendation that there are at least, again, 121 contributing buildings to the El Hages edition.

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So you also have the opportunity to do a national register, historic district as well, once that those other areas are surveyed.

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Furthermore, the survey also concluded that 70 properties would be eligible for

468
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,260
listing under a multiple property documentation for kit homes.

469
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:57,980
A multiple property documentation, or an MPD, is really a thematic listing.

470
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,140
So it is a district, but it doesn't have contiguous boundaries.

471
00:39:02,820 --> 00:39:09,960
It is more thematic, and so the MPD serves as a context statement or cover document,

472
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:18,540
with which then you can nominate individual properties under, but it really takes on the burden of preparing

473
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:25,100
70 different individual national rights sure nominations because they can all be listed under this one

474
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:34,440
thematic listing, but because they are a discontinuous district, that's why it's not a district, but a multiple property documentation.

475
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,580
And

476
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:52,880
then just to go into kind of conclude and sum up some of our recommendations, based off our field observations research, as well as reviewing the National Register and the local landmark evaluation.

477
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,980
Our first two recommendations focus on working with property owners to designate or live.

478
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:09,020
This is the properties identified as eligible on the national register or as a local landmark, either individually or as part of one of those districts.

479
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:28,920
Our second recommendation is really focused on extending the survey and expanding upon this report to include two key areas, one to the west of the current survey area, and one to the south of the survey area, which were historically part of the L-hages edition.

480
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:41,160
But then we're re-subdivided over time, so they kind of they lost their name connection to El Hodges, but they were first established as well as part of the El Hodges edition.

481
00:40:42,420 --> 00:40:51,760
We also recommend to ensure all survey documentation is readily available and accessible to the public, and I'll get to our web map or interactive web map in a moment.

482
00:40:52,860 --> 00:40:58,060
And we also recommend to create a sort of preservation design guidelines, the City of Park

483
00:40:58,060 --> 00:41:02,100
Rive Ridge, currently does not have comprehensive set of design guidelines.

484
00:41:03,220 --> 00:41:07,480
And throughout the survey of the individual buildings in the Hodge's edition, we did note

485
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,880
that several historic buildings were identified as non-contributing because they had

486
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:19,040
experienced a loss of architectural integrity to unsympathetic or unsensitive alterations.

487
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:25,500
And because guidelines will really be helpful and illustrative and user-friendly, serving really

488
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:30,540
as more of a resource to encourage appropriate rehabilitation of historic properties while also

489
00:41:30,540 --> 00:41:35,120
promoting compatible and sensitive new construction within a historic event.

490
00:41:36,940 --> 00:41:41,040
We also recommended enacting a city-wide demolition delay ordinance.

491
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:49,220
This is really where the city can have the most impact on the demolition of historic resources.

492
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:54,680
We found that since the end of the periodistic significance for the El Hodges edition,

493
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,780
the neighborhood has experienced a demolition rate of about 20%.

494
00:41:59,780 --> 00:42:03,880
So fifth of the historic resources within the edition have already been lost.

495
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:10,000
And even when we were doing our survey, there were like two or three new demolitions

496
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:18,020
and new construction ongoing, so taking to be able to take a step back with a demo delay

497
00:42:18,020 --> 00:42:24,040
ordinance in at least work with property owners to determine if there is a path forward for

498
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:24,760
preservation.

499
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,580
I think we think is really helpful a lot of times these demolition should go on unnoticed.

500
00:42:31,060 --> 00:42:36,160
It doesn't mean that it's going to prevent demolition, but at least creates a delay so a conversation

501
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,920
can happen.

502
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:45,700
And if demolition can't be prevented, we recommended requiring the completion of historic architectural impact study.

503
00:42:46,340 --> 00:42:50,360
This documents the history of an individual property.

504
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:56,170
I think it really serves more as a halbs light and there are several communities along the North Shore,

505
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,190
within the North Shore communities of Chicago that require this prior to demolition,

506
00:43:01,190 --> 00:43:06,410
that way that history and the architectural heritage is not lost.

507
00:43:06,590 --> 00:43:10,370
It's a least documented, even if the demolition has to go forward.

508
00:43:13,370 --> 00:43:15,770
I will bring up the web map, but if you're curious,

509
00:43:16,070 --> 00:43:19,510
at the little QR code is the GIS web map.

510
00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:28,050
But so we took all the survey information,

511
00:43:28,690 --> 00:43:34,210
and we put it into a online survey map,

512
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:37,230
which essentially, as a short introduction about the survey,

513
00:43:37,230 --> 00:43:45,810
Once the survey report is approved by the State Historic Preservation Office, that will be linked here as well, that way it's immediately accessible.

514
00:43:46,510 --> 00:43:51,730
There's a how to use guide, and then once you click out, this is our map of survey properties.

515
00:43:53,170 --> 00:43:59,170
And each property can be clicked on, and then the survey report will populate.

516
00:43:59,170 --> 00:44:06,230
has all of the historic information, data construction, and then the architectural description

517
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:13,450
with building type and style, foundation roof windows, doors, porches, significant character

518
00:44:13,450 --> 00:44:20,470
defining features, as well as any notes related to history, the designation evaluation,

519
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:26,790
and then current photos as well, or at least from this past winter when we took them, and that

520
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:33,950
is available for each property and then you can also toggle there's a legend and layers and you can

521
00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:40,630
toggle between layers. So if you want to see the decades of construction you can turn that

522
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:46,990
layer on and then the legend is available and so you can toggle between each one and just explore

523
00:44:47,590 --> 00:44:52,830
each property within the survey area and then also that survey report would be available as well

524
00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:59,850
the public to kind of dive deeper into the history of the actual neighborhood and that.

525
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,420
Thank you all for that was long sorry.

526
00:45:09,980 --> 00:45:18,080
And happy to answer any any questions. What was the name of the, if I wanted to go see the, what you were just describing here, where do we go?

527
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,900
Oh sure. Let me just pull up the QR code again.

528
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,600
If you scan that QR code, it should take you right to that website.

529
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,240
Sorry about that.

530
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,660
I could have been a whercilar.

531
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:38,740
I could have been a whercilar.

532
00:45:38,740 --> 00:45:39,740
Any other questions?

533
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:43,900
The question?

534
00:45:44,020 --> 00:45:46,540
Oh, I was like, you'll send, I can't.

535
00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:47,220
You are a quoted.

536
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:47,940
Oh, sorry.

537
00:45:48,020 --> 00:45:48,720
I thought you had closer.

538
00:45:48,940 --> 00:45:49,700
Oh, no, no.

539
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:50,100
No, no.

540
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,140
Is there another way to get it?

541
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,480
I sent it to John.

542
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Yeah.

543
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,400
I sent it directly.

544
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Thank you.

545
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:58,620
Did excellent.

546
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,280
Thanks.

547
00:45:59,420 --> 00:46:02,580
It was a really interesting time.

548
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,360
John and I were gaited on him.

549
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:09,860
for you in there in that area? I am.

550
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:10,580
Yeah.

551
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,040
Okay, which one?

552
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,580
520s to it.

553
00:46:14,780 --> 00:46:15,140
Okay.

554
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:16,620
It was the out of the zone there.

555
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:17,180
Yeah.

556
00:46:19,740 --> 00:46:20,300
Yeah.

557
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:23,900
Thank you very much.

558
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:24,440
Great.

559
00:46:24,940 --> 00:46:27,760
You mentioned, sorry, the first house.

560
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:31,520
Is the first house in that area?

561
00:46:32,020 --> 00:46:33,560
It wasn't the area, but it's demolished.

562
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,620
Oh, yeah.

563
00:46:34,620 --> 00:46:36,740
Yeah, one of the first houses.

564
00:46:36,780 --> 00:46:41,640
So the first house in Perk Ridge was built by Warner and Stevens,

565
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,400
which was the site of the Masonic Temple.

566
00:46:44,540 --> 00:46:49,620
I think one, one, five more, one more of a highway.

567
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,540
But then a Talcot sun filled in early residents

568
00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:58,520
within what became the building built, which is this.

569
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,700
Up near Citizen Spanker, up near the bank, right?

570
00:47:06,220 --> 00:47:18,660
And then one of the properties we recommended for landmarking though is the home of Parkridge's first mayor, which is pretty exciting to find that out.

571
00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:23,580
And then there's some of the other homes are just related to either.

572
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:34,340
So if we can't keep all in history such as Roboc, Roboc, of Sears and Roboc, or just really great examples of the particular.

573
00:47:34,860 --> 00:47:38,080
Next door to the first mayor's house is the fourth mayor's house.

574
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:38,780
Oh, really?

575
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,940
I'll have to double check. We have that.

576
00:47:49,470 --> 00:47:52,790
We've been having some conversation about historic districts.

577
00:47:52,790 --> 00:48:00,110
And I was wondering what your experience is with regard to historic districts.

578
00:48:00,350 --> 00:48:10,850
Our ordinance at Presence is what 50% plus one, but I think the ordinance will be amended

579
00:48:10,850 --> 00:48:19,690
and will go to 100% be engaged in being districted.

580
00:48:19,690 --> 00:48:28,870
Yeah, but have you run into that in other places or what what what is typical in terms of like contributing resources would be

581
00:48:29,310 --> 00:48:34,150
Or what do you mean what's the I guess what's the percentages for?

582
00:48:35,070 --> 00:48:36,690
Yeah, I'm not okay. Go ahead.

583
00:48:36,690 --> 00:48:47,310
I was just going to say in regards for an individual to be able to submit an application and 50% plus one of the consent of the of the property owners that are would be within the district.

584
00:48:47,310 --> 00:49:17,190
Yeah, so I believe the national red shirt is just like a majority, whatever the majority is, and so when I do a national red shirt district, if it's over 50 property owners, it actually is just an announcement and announcement in the newspaper, it's under 50 property owners, it's actual certified letter, so I would say for most of my districts and I've done actually more districts in the digital property listings.

585
00:49:18,550 --> 00:49:42,350
There's usually only an owner notification through the newspaper announcement, but I would say they follow a majority in like the city's Chicago. I believe it's also just a majority. I don't know that there's a specific percentage, just as long as you don't have like a majority opposing it, then it passes through.

586
00:49:42,350 --> 00:49:48,510
And then, certain municipalities, I think also city Chicago, actually have a clause where

587
00:49:49,070 --> 00:49:56,650
owner consent is not required. So if there was something that was in the interest of the

588
00:49:56,650 --> 00:49:59,970
greater public good, they would move, they would still move forward.

589
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,380
Board with a listing, a designation.

590
00:50:07,550 --> 00:50:25,170
I think almost 20 nominations and only three of them have been in individual

591
00:50:25,170 --> 00:50:25,630
Yes.

592
00:50:28,850 --> 00:50:34,970
And I would say, here, obviously, there's a strong landmark or national registered district

593
00:50:34,970 --> 00:50:44,010
with under in 21 of the 193 properties contributing to that greater history and architectural

594
00:50:44,010 --> 00:50:46,110
heritage of the El Hajj's edition.

595
00:50:47,830 --> 00:50:54,450
So there is, I feel like, a strong possibility for the four districts, and I think, for

596
00:50:54,450 --> 00:51:00,570
recommendations, we also included that as part of any kind of larger designation or

597
00:51:00,570 --> 00:51:06,650
listing, there should be some educational outreach to property owners to share the

598
00:51:06,650 --> 00:51:12,170
financial incentives that are available, especially with national register listing.

599
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:15,050
And then, obviously, national register is not regulatory.

600
00:51:15,490 --> 00:51:16,190
It's honorific.

601
00:51:17,470 --> 00:51:22,670
And so I think there's some additional education that can happen to share the differences

602
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:27,390
because what I've encountered a lot is that there is a misunderstanding between national

603
00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:34,050
register and local landmarking. And so just getting that information out there, I think

604
00:51:34,050 --> 00:51:42,390
is always helpful because there are financial incentives and some tools that come along with

605
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:46,750
both of them, but it does help to share that with the public, I find.

606
00:51:48,550 --> 00:51:53,850
Thank you for staying. I hope you learned something. Thanks.

607
00:51:59,430 --> 00:52:02,250
Thank you. Does anyone else have any questions?

608
00:52:05,530 --> 00:52:09,450
I'll have to email you because I know you sent me the link for the GIS, but I don't

609
00:52:09,450 --> 00:52:14,570
think you attached the PowerPoint. I thought I did. I'll reset it.

610
00:52:14,810 --> 00:52:16,550
Yeah. So we'll be in touch.

611
00:52:16,550 --> 00:52:23,290
Okay, obviously, because I know you already have submitted the ship, oh, okay, so that's currently long.

612
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:33,590
Just that take to it's about I would say a minimum of 30 days, but right now ship O is only on the National Registering Survey side.

613
00:52:33,610 --> 00:52:34,890
There's only one person.

614
00:52:37,590 --> 00:52:38,290
Andrew Heckenken.

615
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:45,730
So I know Annie Heckley is back in a consulting position, but she's mainly working on their

616
00:52:45,730 --> 00:52:53,290
program. So Andrew is reviewing all of the surveys for the CLG grants, which I know there's

617
00:52:53,290 --> 00:52:58,650
a few out there and then also all the National Register nomination. So he's a little bit

618
00:52:59,210 --> 00:53:07,370
hot. Yeah, and swans, but he usually, I mean we've done several surveys with him. So I would

619
00:53:07,370 --> 00:53:10,390
say probably a few weeks, but maybe we'll get it back sooner.

620
00:53:13,420 --> 00:53:15,060
And you would want to do the city council

621
00:53:15,060 --> 00:53:22,820
thing after that? I would leave it up to the console. I know we're not they're only clients

622
00:53:22,820 --> 00:53:30,620
so I would say whatever makes sense for your schedule. Yeah I I don't anticipate any issues with

623
00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:37,180
Chippo it's kind of like a check box because also we we keep them like updated throughout the

624
00:53:37,180 --> 00:53:44,380
process and they sign off on kind of the the foundational items of the survey so I don't anticipate

625
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:48,320
They'll really have any comments or questions or concerns.

626
00:53:48,740 --> 00:53:52,380
So I'm happy if one of the October meetings works for City Council.

627
00:53:53,180 --> 00:53:54,440
That will work for us.

628
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,420
Whatever works, I would say whatever works really was City Council.

629
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,840
So in like an agenda, maybe that has not so much on.

630
00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:04,220
Right.

631
00:54:04,580 --> 00:54:04,760
Yeah.

632
00:54:04,940 --> 00:54:06,920
So we'll staff all be in touch.

633
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:08,020
I'll be in touch with you.

634
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,140
We'll figure out a date in October that makes sense.

635
00:54:11,380 --> 00:54:11,460
Yeah.

636
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:13,340
And Mondays usually are fine.

637
00:54:13,340 --> 00:54:22,080
September, I have a, this is really silly, but I'm part of the bowling league so I can't, I have a daughter who doesn't have to,

638
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,360
so that's why I was like, September 8 is not going to, but the Monday is always works.

639
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:32,340
Totally understand that.

640
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:33,940
It's important things.

641
00:54:35,780 --> 00:54:37,280
We've won, so.

642
00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:38,280
Hey, there you go.

643
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,660
I'm not great, but it's fine.

644
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,340
Well, I'll reiterate what the commission said, but thank you very, very much.

645
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:55,320
I know from my standpoint, this has been awesome to work with you and the deliverables

646
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,960
have been great to look at, I wish I had more time to just sit at it.

647
00:55:02,130 --> 00:55:12,090
But there's a plethora of information in here that I think is a League of Benefit, this commission, but also the city is a whole moving forward. So thank you for all your hard work and time with us.

648
00:55:12,530 --> 00:55:26,290
It was a lot of fun and there's some really interesting history in the edition as well as I think really excellent examples of architectural styles and forms that

649
00:55:26,290 --> 00:55:31,630
I think probably have been hit in for a little bit, so I hope this information is out to the public.

650
00:55:32,050 --> 00:55:32,290
I'm shared.

651
00:55:33,370 --> 00:55:33,790
Thank you.

652
00:55:33,790 --> 00:55:36,290
All right, thank you so much.

653
00:55:38,070 --> 00:55:38,350
All right.

654
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:40,490
I don't know how we're going to top the apple.

655
00:55:40,650 --> 00:55:40,950
Yeah.

656
00:55:41,310 --> 00:55:41,990
Give it a shot.

657
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:45,270
Let me.

658
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:46,890
Do you know, are you getting the lights?

659
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:48,890
Thank you.

660
00:55:49,890 --> 00:55:50,150
Okay.

661
00:55:50,990 --> 00:55:54,730
Should we go back up to the HPC Award Program nominees?

662
00:55:55,250 --> 00:55:55,490
Yes.

663
00:55:55,490 --> 00:56:05,110
Wait up, wait up, wait up, wait back up, all right, as you know we all received a lengthy

664
00:56:05,110 --> 00:56:15,570
document with lots of attachments regarding this year's award program, and we have three

665
00:56:15,570 --> 00:56:24,030
nominations that have been received. They were reviewed by the jury, and we have their report

666
00:56:24,030 --> 00:56:25,130
recommendations,

667
00:56:27,290 --> 00:56:32,670
categories would you like to speak? Yes, I'm just making a note for myself.

668
00:56:34,510 --> 00:56:36,010
I'm too voting.

669
00:56:51,170 --> 00:56:57,670
Sorry about that. So we all know this. This is our second year doing this program,

670
00:56:58,470 --> 00:57:04,510
which I think is great. Last year we had six applications, I believe, and we awarded four,

671
00:57:04,510 --> 00:57:11,150
this year we've received three and there are recommendations in the packet for those three properties.

672
00:57:12,830 --> 00:57:16,230
We did make an improvement I think.

673
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:22,870
We increased the size of our jury, which I think helps in regards from a review standpoint,

674
00:57:23,050 --> 00:57:24,790
and being able to look at different properties.

675
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:32,370
And I feel they can be a little more strict if you want to say and looking at these properties

676
00:57:32,370 --> 00:57:36,450
and seeing what actually falls within our categories and what doesn't.

677
00:57:36,910 --> 00:57:38,670
So I do want to acknowledge these individuals.

678
00:57:39,930 --> 00:57:44,350
I will be inviting them to our awards ceremony which is,

679
00:57:44,350 --> 00:57:48,170
I know it's already saved in your calendars and highlighted in circled and start,

680
00:57:48,330 --> 00:57:50,130
but it's October 14th.

681
00:57:50,410 --> 00:57:51,530
That's right, count on clocks.

682
00:57:51,830 --> 00:57:53,510
We're going to have one here at City Hall.

683
00:57:54,250 --> 00:57:57,370
October 14th is when the award ceremony is.

684
00:57:57,370 --> 00:58:06,990
Um, you know, these studios again, um, but our five jurors is Kimberly Coleman, who's the VP at JNKA

685
00:58:06,990 --> 00:58:14,030
architects. This is her second year, um, as a judge on our jury. Um, the second judge is Catherine

686
00:58:14,030 --> 00:58:20,670
Poll, who's an architect, um, and with the nurture architects and member of the landmarks Illinois

687
00:58:20,670 --> 00:58:27,210
Skyline Council of Young professionals. This is also her second year on the jury. Um, the next

688
00:58:27,210 --> 00:58:33,890
three jurors. These are all brand new individuals. We'll invite. I believe it's how you pronounce

689
00:58:33,890 --> 00:58:39,750
this last thing, but he's the assistant project manager for Birdland construction. And we have

690
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:47,290
Kelsey Cune, senior associate slash architectural historian and preservationist at JLK architects

691
00:58:47,790 --> 00:58:56,890
and then Thomas Dites or Dites associate principal at JNKA architects. Those are five jurors that we

692
00:58:56,890 --> 00:59:07,590
have. Again, just the refresh for you all, we have six categories, stewardship, restoration,

693
00:59:08,330 --> 00:59:14,630
and rehabilitation, sustainability and adaptive reuse, sensitive addition, streetscape

694
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:17,990
compatibility, and lifetime achievement preservation.

695
00:59:19,070 --> 00:59:27,410
So, the three properties that are in front of you tonight for nomination is 1,700 Ballard

696
00:59:27,410 --> 00:59:36,890
Road, Public Building, it is, excuse me, Wayne Township's Town Hall, thank you.

697
00:59:37,470 --> 00:59:43,590
The award category that they had applied for was Stewardship, with a focus on the exterior,

698
00:59:43,590 --> 00:59:50,970
and the jury recommendation is Approve, which was unanimous. The second property is

699
00:59:50,970 --> 00:59:56,420
100 Courtland Avenue, which is the religious building. I'm blanking on the name of it.

700
00:59:57,310 --> 00:59:57,990
Community Church.

701
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:59,550
Any church? Thank you.

702
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:20,980
The word category they had applied for was restoration list rehabilitation with the focus on the exterior. Again, their jury recommendation was the unanimous approval and then one south northwest highway, which is the chase building that does have residential use above the first floor or above the first couple floors.

703
01:00:20,980 --> 01:00:34,600
The property type is residential and commercial and the award category they had applied for was sustainability and adaptive reuse with the focus on the exterior and they also had unanimous recommendation of approval.

704
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:39,680
I will say one update that I'll probably put in the application for next year is mixed use.

705
01:00:40,060 --> 01:00:44,980
You don't have that listed in this is an example of that.

706
01:00:44,980 --> 01:00:49,080
Yeah, so these are three applicants that we had, I believe we have room.

707
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:59,440
I do think that the building predates 1940, which is listed there, because the original, what did I call it?

708
01:00:59,660 --> 01:01:02,320
Considerance Bank Building was built by a Malone.

709
01:01:03,580 --> 01:01:06,160
I think around the time Pickwick was built.

710
01:01:06,220 --> 01:01:12,780
I don't know what date, but it's in pictures of Town Park Ridge long before 1940.

711
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:14,760
But anyway.

712
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,340
Yeah, that's kind of everything I have at least for them.

713
01:01:21,140 --> 01:01:27,300
It's a little unique because obviously with our commission, most of our applications are already coming to you all to review.

714
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:35,260
And since this went to the jury, and they reviewed it, it's from a staff level, the report is not as thorough.

715
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:50,820
But, we've attached their applications so you can at least see full emphasis of that as just to make sure that there's no conflicting interests or any type of bias in regards to reviewing the documents hence why we have a jury.

716
01:01:51,820 --> 01:01:57,840
But, obviously, I'm here if you guys have any questions and regards to it or how the process went.

717
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:02,660
I think we had one application. We were trying to sneak in, but we weren't able to, so they will be

718
01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:09,700
For 2027, so we've already got one on the pipeline, which is great. I think there's a second one.

719
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,640
There remind we got two in the pipeline. Yeah, a residence.

720
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:19,660
But anyway, okay. Yeah, I mean if anybody has any questions about it or how the jury process goes, or anything might be seen

721
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,520
I love the community church photo. I think they're wonderful. Yeah, they had a great submittal

722
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,840
Cool to see it.

723
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,680
Or was it a summer in the spring?

724
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:33,860
Well, yes.

725
01:02:34,420 --> 01:02:34,980
All the words.

726
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,740
You want to have for quite some time?

727
01:02:37,780 --> 01:02:38,720
Yes, yes.

728
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,360
All the scaffolding.

729
01:02:45,130 --> 01:02:49,530
Does anybody have any questions of John or?

730
01:02:50,490 --> 01:02:55,270
Does anybody want to make a motion about approving these nominations?

731
01:02:56,030 --> 01:02:57,610
Either as a group or individually?

732
01:02:58,970 --> 01:02:59,850
Oh, do it.

733
01:02:59,850 --> 01:03:01,410
Good luck, you got it.

734
01:03:01,930 --> 01:03:02,090
Thank you.

735
01:03:02,990 --> 01:03:03,170
Thank you.

736
01:03:03,330 --> 01:03:03,990
Thank you.

737
01:03:04,430 --> 01:03:09,450
A true pleasure, recommendation, for the following award nominees.

738
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:14,730
1700, Beller Road, Shepherd Ship,

739
01:03:15,230 --> 01:03:17,750
exterior dash public building.

740
01:03:18,810 --> 01:03:24,130
100, Portland Avenue, Restoration, Slash, Rehabilitation,

741
01:03:24,130 --> 01:03:26,770
exterior, religious building,

742
01:03:28,110 --> 01:03:30,650
one south, northwest highway, sustainability,

743
01:03:31,950 --> 01:03:34,290
slash adaptive reuse,

744
01:03:35,710 --> 01:03:36,210
exterior,

745
01:03:37,530 --> 01:03:38,530
slash, I mean,

746
01:03:38,910 --> 01:03:41,810
dash residential and commercial.

747
01:03:48,630 --> 01:03:49,790
Second, I second.

748
01:03:50,070 --> 01:03:50,870
Go for it.

749
01:03:51,110 --> 01:03:51,750
All in favor?

750
01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:53,690
Any opposed?

751
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:55,210
OK.

752
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:56,210
Well, this is wonderful.

753
01:03:57,350 --> 01:03:59,030
So now we can get ready for that event.

754
01:03:59,030 --> 01:04:03,610
event. I think sustainability's upstairs.

755
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,660
But you can stay here. They love having an audience.

756
01:04:20,220 --> 01:04:21,260
Have a good evening.

757
01:04:22,220 --> 01:04:26,780
So we can jump around really quick. Yeah, let's just talk about next steps since.

758
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,440
Yes, let's do that. Yes.

759
01:04:29,260 --> 01:04:33,260
So from a HPC level,

760
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:38,820
you all don't really have to do anything else now.

761
01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:44,760
You are obviously more than what will happen next is staff will be in contact with the

762
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:51,580
applicant that has been approved by you all and then I will be working on being in contact

763
01:04:51,580 --> 01:04:55,860
with our vendors to get the award set up and I'll get to go.

764
01:04:56,380 --> 01:04:59,840
We're already on their schedule so once they hear from me tomorrow.

765
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:14,240
The next piece will be City Council. More than likely, they will go to the October 5 City Council meeting.

766
01:05:14,780 --> 01:05:23,120
They will go there and get a picture with the mayor and just get acknowledgement in regards to their ward program similar to what we did last year.

767
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:28,460
They'll be presented with a proclamation that will be signed by both Joan and the Mayor.

768
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:34,520
But then they will get their big fancy award like they got last year at the awards ceremony.

769
01:05:36,220 --> 01:05:40,700
A little different this year compared to last year, last year we had this as a regular meeting.

770
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,120
And we had business that we did take care of this year.

771
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,040
We are having the award program ceremony as a special meeting.

772
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,120
So the only business I am there will be on there.

773
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,480
It's presentation.

774
01:05:51,620 --> 01:05:52,660
It's pretty much presentation.

775
01:05:53,060 --> 01:05:56,240
We may have minutes, but technically we can.

776
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:57,460
It can be moved.

777
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,600
We'll just have two sets of minutes, which is fine.

778
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,340
So that'll really be the only piece.

779
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,920
Like I said, it's at, at least two years again.

780
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:12,280
I think it's at six.

781
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:16,700
Yep, I haven't memorized it.

782
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:18,740
It's at six o'clock.

783
01:06:20,140 --> 01:06:25,660
It'll be a very similar set-up layout as to what we had last year.

784
01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:33,980
The studio has, I think, they're going to have an art exhibit up so we can enjoy their art exhibit.

785
01:06:34,140 --> 01:06:39,460
I think it opens on the 11th, but it'll still be up in LA.

786
01:06:42,140 --> 01:06:48,760
But yeah, that's pretty much everything for me, but I don't think there's any questions in regards to the process

787
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,580
Sir, what if there's any questions?

788
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:53,860
Oh, it's really interesting.

789
01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:55,120
Yeah, that's great.

790
01:06:55,460 --> 01:06:55,580
OK.

791
01:06:55,580 --> 01:06:57,600
I need to speak for you, Jeff, when I said,

792
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,160
oh, we're geeked out over this, but I was like,

793
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,360
you and I were, we were, we were so full of the lessons.

794
01:07:02,500 --> 01:07:03,500
Yeah, we were putting you on the spot.

795
01:07:03,580 --> 01:07:06,100
Yeah, the last time we, when she came,

796
01:07:06,700 --> 01:07:08,640
when we were, excuse me, Erica is right there.

797
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,280
When Erica came, when we were 50%,

798
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:10,740
threw it.

799
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,400
She's still, she was fine.

800
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:14,480
All right, nothing's on her.

801
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,020
My mind's really going anyway.

802
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:24,300
When Eric came to visit us when we were like 50% of the way through and she showed us the GIS page.

803
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:28,240
I, as one that works with it every day, was like this is a lot of information.

804
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,100
We can do a lot with.

805
01:07:30,620 --> 01:07:31,940
It's a great tool to have.

806
01:07:32,500 --> 01:07:33,380
So I think the...

807
01:07:33,380 --> 01:07:37,620
It seems to me like it's going to be overwhelming and take ages to get through it all.

808
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,740
I mean if each house, but anyway.

809
01:07:41,620 --> 01:07:43,080
Yeah, but we got tools we can do.

810
01:07:43,140 --> 01:07:45,860
I'm sure we can do queries and filter stuff through there.

811
01:07:45,860 --> 01:07:49,220
So it should be able to, it may seem like a lot.

812
01:07:49,580 --> 01:07:51,480
Once you give it a query or filter it,

813
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,580
whatever we need to, it should spit out.

814
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,120
The information, but

815
01:07:58,960 --> 01:07:59,580
yeah,

816
01:08:02,110 --> 01:08:02,710
that would be big.

817
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:06,110
Because we'll talk after we have MGP,

818
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:08,810
so we can figure out how to coordinate that.

819
01:08:09,670 --> 01:08:09,970
Yeah, sorry.

820
01:08:10,190 --> 01:08:12,370
OK, so we're done with HPC awards.

821
01:08:12,730 --> 01:08:16,030
Let's jump up to next chip program.

822
01:08:16,290 --> 01:08:17,370
We don't have any.

823
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:17,990
Yes.

824
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:19,230
So information, yeah.

825
01:08:19,230 --> 01:08:26,710
those I think everybody was here at the August meeting if not. We were awarded another grant.

826
01:08:27,010 --> 01:08:35,130
We had applied for two the state essentially shared with us that we only be getting funding for one of them.

827
01:08:35,310 --> 01:08:42,910
So we had to pick which area we wanted to do. The area will be just north of northwest highway.

828
01:08:44,830 --> 01:08:45,870
It's just pretty much-

829
01:08:45,870 --> 01:08:47,030
Better to jump around.

830
01:08:47,730 --> 01:08:51,330
Pretty much just north of the six corners intersection.

831
01:08:52,290 --> 01:08:58,090
Which was actually part of a historic survey that took place and I believe 2017.

832
01:08:58,870 --> 01:09:04,090
It doesn't encompass the whole area but it encompasses about like a quarter of it.

833
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:10,270
Or maybe half, it's probably closer to a quarter, but so that will be the new area.

834
01:09:10,270 --> 01:09:19,450
We're still waiting on a letter from the state, just improving everything before we start the RFP process and go out for kids again.

835
01:09:20,610 --> 01:09:28,170
But yes, so right now I haven't received any letters, but the state has confirmed that we will be awarded the grant again, which is great.

836
01:09:28,490 --> 01:09:35,830
And only continues to help us as we try and provide more service around the city.

837
01:09:35,830 --> 01:09:45,250
and get more information and more properties to landmark or put in a district or whatever that case may be.

838
01:09:45,410 --> 01:09:48,390
Sometimes you say north of north of the highway or a two-week.

839
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:52,230
It's north of north, so if you're going to do it.

840
01:09:52,330 --> 01:09:52,610
Yeah, north.

841
01:09:52,830 --> 01:09:53,830
Okay, yeah, okay, okay.

842
01:09:55,210 --> 01:09:59,870
So we're green woods north and south west highways running here.

843
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,700
It's like this whole triangle.

844
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,000
Okay. That's not true.

845
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,500
I just just ran out of the window.

846
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:06,780
Go back to your G.O.T.

847
01:10:06,780 --> 01:10:07,140
Yeah, I was right.

848
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:09,200
But it's okay.

849
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:17,960
The most northern area of the boundary is the southern property of the country club.

850
01:10:19,220 --> 01:10:21,940
And I think the eastern boundary, I think, is prospect.

851
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:28,660
So it's just, yeah, it's kind of everything on the north side of the northwest highway

852
01:10:28,660 --> 01:10:35,400
as you're going towards what needs to come and say could come up that way.

853
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,120
And how much are these great, like how much is the grant coming to get?

854
01:10:39,180 --> 01:10:39,960
No, it's a great question.

855
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:51,660
So 20,000 I believe, or we had put it up to like 28 or 29, but let's just, the state, you know,

856
01:10:51,820 --> 01:10:57,160
the state will determine what amount they wish to reward, but we got around 20,000.

857
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,140
We haven't gotten the letter yet, but this past grant cycle,

858
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,620
we were awarded 20,000 in the city,

859
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:06,060
put in the remaining amount.

860
01:11:06,420 --> 01:11:09,120
OK, so in total, it's just under like 30,000 dollars.

861
01:11:09,140 --> 01:11:11,760
OK, and I'm new with this, because OK, so you got that money,

862
01:11:12,220 --> 01:11:14,280
then what it is, what does it go to?

863
01:11:14,500 --> 01:11:14,780
It works.

864
01:11:15,780 --> 01:11:17,880
So that grant that we get,

865
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,840
Jordan that money goes to Erica and her consulting.

866
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,600
OK, for the work they did.

867
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:25,620
Right, all her work.

868
01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:26,500
OK, yes.

869
01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:28,340
I don't mean we're doing some beautification.

870
01:11:29,020 --> 01:11:30,400
I was getting very excited.

871
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,320
Well, as part of that process, beautification can't come out of it.

872
01:11:36,340 --> 01:11:37,360
We'll take a little bit of time.

873
01:11:37,780 --> 01:11:38,740
It's definitely possible.

874
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,200
Yeah, so those dollars at little point of that process,

875
01:11:43,780 --> 01:11:46,120
the grant piece is to assist communities

876
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,840
as they work towards their historic project goals.

877
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,060
We don't have in-house staff.

878
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:59,080
or be at least at the, we don't, we're not necessarily at the credential or quality level.

879
01:11:59,980 --> 01:12:03,200
Obviously, there are certain credentials you have to hold.

880
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,760
And internally, staff, we don't have that.

881
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,320
So on that process, it's where you go out for an RFP, which is a request for proposals.

882
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:13,620
And you go out looking for services.

883
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,000
That is the process that we've been through.

884
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:22,880
We had no half a dozen individuals that had submitted bids and then staff looks at them.

885
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,200
You can spell your way, okay?

886
01:12:24,260 --> 01:12:24,420
Right.

887
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:25,580
The value of extra.

888
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,260
They're really a bit of a resume.

889
01:12:28,540 --> 01:12:29,120
They provide.

890
01:12:29,820 --> 01:12:34,360
They've done another properties and then obviously the biggest question is, are they in the

891
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:39,720
range from a budget standpoint because we can't get a budget for, we can't get a grant

892
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,600
for $20,000 and then bring somebody on for $50,000.

893
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:42,840
Right.

894
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:43,320
Exactly.

895
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:43,960
Okay.

896
01:12:44,540 --> 01:12:44,820
Yeah.

897
01:12:44,940 --> 01:12:45,880
That makes sense.

898
01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:47,400
Is that answer here?

899
01:12:50,180 --> 01:12:50,440
Okay.

900
01:12:51,620 --> 01:12:55,900
Moving along, discussion about meeting date and time.

901
01:12:56,140 --> 01:12:56,280
Yes.

902
01:12:57,060 --> 01:13:02,080
So I'm just writing my notes for myself, selfishly.

903
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:02,880
Okay.

904
01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:04,480
I'm going to pass this out.

905
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:11,100
Thank you all for filling out this very, very intense and long two-question survey.

906
01:13:11,700 --> 01:13:12,880
I really appreciate it.

907
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:16,920
Get pretty pictures.

908
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:17,820
Thank you.

909
01:13:17,820 --> 01:13:19,820
Thank you.

910
01:13:20,380 --> 01:13:20,520
Thank you.

911
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:21,080
You're right, Pest.

912
01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:22,740
Thank you.

913
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:24,040
Oh, another person.

914
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,040
I just do almost.

915
01:13:25,900 --> 01:13:26,820
You even grafted?

916
01:13:27,540 --> 01:13:27,860
Yes.

917
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,480
I'm very impressed.

918
01:13:29,900 --> 01:13:32,600
You can see what the two top priorities were.

919
01:13:32,940 --> 01:13:33,700
Top suggestions.

920
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:37,600
Just keep it where it is.

921
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:39,100
It's amazing.

922
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,920
It's about this.

923
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,080
We talked about this briefly last year.

924
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,660
I want to say I think it was almost.

925
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:54,900
We're ahead of the game.

926
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,800
I think last year was around December.

927
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:03,540
which was I think kind of just picking your all's minds. So the reasoning I brought this up again

928
01:14:03,540 --> 01:14:09,440
is because just a situation we've been going through which is not a bad situation by any means

929
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:15,640
so I want to squash that idea. The piece is that HPC you all are doing a lot of work which is phenomenal.

930
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:24,800
The issue is trying to capture all the work that you're doing in an hour with another commission

931
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:31,540
That's right behind you is respectfully not very fair to this commission, but also the state

932
01:14:31,540 --> 01:14:37,060
Or to them right order the sustainability commission they've been extremely flexible and the last three months

933
01:14:37,060 --> 01:14:41,200
They're meetings have been upstairs in the second or conference room and I know

934
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:46,000
I'm very grateful for that as I know the commission is so they know that, but

935
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:53,680
You know with the work that you are doing and the I'm gonna say it like the inconsistency of I don't know

936
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,620
how many hundred-year-old homes certificates were going to get one month versus a landmark

937
01:14:57,620 --> 01:14:58,300
case.

938
01:14:58,300 --> 01:14:59,960
we there's it's not

939
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,820
Like from a ZBA standpoint, it's not there consistent or I can expect two or three cases a month.

940
01:15:06,140 --> 01:15:14,160
For example, this agenda, we had a presentation, we had the nominees for the program, which we know is going to come every year around this time.

941
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,420
But 100-year-old home certificates, we just don't know.

942
01:15:18,820 --> 01:15:27,640
So, in an effort to just kind of be respectful of everybody's time, both from staff and the commissions, as well, obviously, you all.

943
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:33,880
We're trying to figure out what's the best route. I have not talked with sustainability on if they've even had a conversation

944
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,060
And if they were changing that's not my prerogative or

945
01:15:38,380 --> 01:15:42,540
Intent to have that conversation, but obviously when to talk with you all because

946
01:15:42,540 --> 01:15:47,060
This obviously directly affects you all we all have lives outside of this and jobs

947
01:15:47,060 --> 01:15:50,200
So obviously want to be respectful of you all in your time

948
01:15:51,660 --> 01:15:56,940
But to get down to the nitty gritty that you have in front of you. We had five dates

949
01:15:56,940 --> 01:16:01,500
So obviously our first Wednesday of the month, which we currently have, there was a question

950
01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:07,400
of whether you want to change that time. There's four, five, excuse me, five times, lots, five

951
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:15,420
PM, five, 30, six, six, 30, and seven PM. For the first Wednesday, it seemed like a majority of you

952
01:16:15,420 --> 01:16:21,940
all wanted to keep it at six PM. For the second option, which was the first Tuesday of the month,

953
01:16:23,620 --> 01:16:28,480
There was a pretty good amount that felt six and six or excuse me.

954
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,460
Six and six 30 would be good.

955
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:36,120
The only concern with that is we do have two commissioners that cannot make it work that

956
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:36,740
they.

957
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:44,100
So I think that's part of the conversation I wanted to have with you all is, you know, when

958
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:49,840
you're filling out not available, you just want to know like is that a pure camp movement

959
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,840
or is it just a situation where I'm just not working from a family standpoint?

960
01:16:54,740 --> 01:17:01,780
By no means is this a blood oath that you are making on the HPC, but we just want to make

961
01:17:02,460 --> 01:17:04,120
sure this is working for everybody.

962
01:17:04,780 --> 01:17:08,620
We can't really pick a day that doesn't work for someone because they're essentially not going

963
01:17:08,620 --> 01:17:09,240
to be here.

964
01:17:09,780 --> 01:17:13,940
Which at that point, they would probably have the conversation of why I'm even on the commission

965
01:17:13,940 --> 01:17:15,300
if I can't even make the meeting.

966
01:17:16,620 --> 01:17:17,060
So,

967
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:23,360
to be blunt, the first Tuesday of the month, that's out, we have two people that cannot

968
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:23,920
make the meeting.

969
01:17:24,180 --> 01:17:30,220
The second Thursday of the month, which is the fourth graph you'll see on the piece of

970
01:17:30,220 --> 01:17:35,140
paper in front of you, that also out is we have two people that are not available on that day.

971
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:43,160
So, I know the second Monday of the month, I know we only have one commissioner that cannot

972
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:48,600
make it. And then the fourth Monday of the month, we have the same thing. So I don't want

973
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:55,180
to put you on the spot. Commissioner Agurt. So I know that you had responded with those

974
01:17:55,180 --> 01:18:01,180
days. We're not available. So I was just curious if there's a heart and no, or if it's

975
01:18:01,180 --> 01:18:05,420
something that can work for you. But by no means do I need an answer?

976
01:18:05,460 --> 01:18:09,440
Not like I'm doing it every, every month. That's the thing. You know what I mean?

977
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:15,060
It's

978
01:18:15,060 --> 01:18:19,780
No, to the Tuesday and Thursday, that's only because my daughter has soccer until six

979
01:18:19,780 --> 01:18:22,860
feet. So I could do six thirty. If that was me. And so I can't remember.

980
01:18:23,220 --> 01:18:23,520
Okay.

981
01:18:24,220 --> 01:18:25,900
But there were two people. So.

982
01:18:26,020 --> 01:18:30,480
Yeah. So that for the first Tuesday and month, we had Maggie and Chrissy.

983
01:18:30,780 --> 01:18:33,440
Yeah. Yep. That was me for soccer. Right.

984
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,400
But I can do six thirty.

985
01:18:36,820 --> 01:18:37,320
So.

986
01:18:39,710 --> 01:18:41,490
Sorry. No. It's nothing.

987
01:18:43,810 --> 01:18:48,370
Yeah, I mean, if you have soccer, can we even push it to seven?

988
01:18:48,730 --> 01:18:49,730
Yeah, I guess you're 632.

989
01:18:51,670 --> 01:18:54,890
So, that's one piece I'm just going to write.

990
01:18:55,190 --> 01:18:56,290
Yeah, sorry about that.

991
01:18:56,430 --> 01:18:58,270
No, it's nothing to apologize for.

992
01:18:58,490 --> 01:19:00,470
This is the whole point of just having these discussions.

993
01:19:00,870 --> 01:19:04,810
Because it's one thing for me to just send out an email and say, hey, you guys, I need you all to fill this up.

994
01:19:04,910 --> 01:19:05,090
Yeah, yeah.

995
01:19:05,090 --> 01:19:11,210
It's another thing to have a discussion and just kind of pick all of yours brains and just say, hey, does this actually work for you?

996
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:17,170
because the goal of this is not to change the date and then make one, two, three of you would be like,

997
01:19:17,230 --> 01:19:21,970
I can't even make a meeting. That's by no means the point of this conversation.

998
01:19:22,190 --> 01:19:29,150
I don't know the other days, besides this day, this day of the month, the rest of the four,

999
01:19:29,390 --> 01:19:31,410
there's nothing after, like, no other commissions after?

1000
01:19:31,870 --> 01:19:35,970
So these are the, because I talked with the administration department.

1001
01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:40,050
So these are the only days that do not have a commission meeting.

1002
01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:47,270
You can count me in for 630 on the Tuesday and Thursday.

1003
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:56,550
So I can reach out to Maggie to see if that day could work or if there's a later time

1004
01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:58,150
that would work for her.

1005
01:19:59,350 --> 01:19:59,950
But...

1006
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:20,060
So, it sounds like right now, really what our options are, would be potentially the first Tuesday of the month, or the first Wednesday of the month, which is our current meeting time, or date, excuse me.

1007
01:20:20,060 --> 01:20:29,320
So the piece with that is because sometimes people say, hey, do you want to fluctuate with the time and change it every meeting?

1008
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,940
That's not a good habit to have.

1009
01:20:32,740 --> 01:20:34,380
It's not appropriate.

1010
01:20:36,980 --> 01:20:40,940
So I know what's six is giving us an hour.

1011
01:20:42,180 --> 01:20:46,600
And we're obviously we had a full agenda tonight, we're pushing almost an hour and a half.

1012
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:52,880
So I don't know if it works for people if we had if we did it if we did it if we did it 30

1013
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,600
Yeah, if we did up going to 530 on our current day

1014
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,080
Again, this would not start till 2027

1015
01:21:00,860 --> 01:21:05,780
This could also be a thing is if you all are not comfortable making that call for 2027

1016
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,340
We can push it to 2028. There is no

1017
01:21:09,340 --> 01:21:13,800
Timeline of saying hey, this needs to be done in three months, so we need to figure this out. Lock it in

1018
01:21:14,260 --> 01:21:14,700
so

1019
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,740
Again, it's not a vote that needs to happen.

1020
01:21:17,980 --> 01:21:20,780
It's purely a discussion for you all to think about,

1021
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,600
to see what you all are feeling, what works with your schedule

1022
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:24,900
with an Ives.

1023
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:27,720
We want to be respectful of that.

1024
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,120
I think it would make life 30 work on Wednesdays,

1025
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:31,820
but I don't know what I mean.

1026
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:33,620
On Wednesday.

1027
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,240
On the first Wednesday of the month.

1028
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,400
So instead of six, make it five, 30.

1029
01:21:40,650 --> 01:21:43,490
I feel like I could do that temporarily

1030
01:21:43,490 --> 01:21:56,410
until I find a new job, which then I don't know about travel, and then usually it's in the city, so usually it takes a while to get here.

1031
01:21:56,410 --> 01:21:57,490
Yeah, you can predict anything.

1032
01:21:57,610 --> 01:21:58,130
For sure.

1033
01:21:58,170 --> 01:21:59,330
You know, I'm not sure.

1034
01:21:59,630 --> 01:22:00,130
I'll say y'all.

1035
01:22:01,630 --> 01:22:02,870
So that's fair.

1036
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:06,060
What is everybody else?

1037
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:06,880
It's just like 30.

1038
01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:13,460
On the other end, is your in that...

1039
01:22:13,460 --> 01:22:13,640
Yeah.

1040
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,660
Lingo's situation,

1041
01:22:18,780 --> 01:22:39,520
I don't know where I was going to go with that, actually, but I don't know, I think the thing I need to do is I can reach out to Commissioner Rowe to see if there was a later time on the first Tuesday of the month if we went.

1042
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:45,280
That like six, thirty or seven o'clock, if that's something that wasn't working with me.

1043
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:46,340
Does that work?

1044
01:22:55,260 --> 01:22:55,320
Okay.

1045
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,480
I mean, that'd be, so maybe there's something in her room.

1046
01:22:58,540 --> 01:22:58,700
Sure.

1047
01:22:59,080 --> 01:22:59,320
Right here.

1048
01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:00,680
I don't hear what you mean.

1049
01:23:01,140 --> 01:23:01,880
Some kind of potential.

1050
01:23:02,220 --> 01:23:06,760
That looks like we need to just show this for a while.

1051
01:23:06,860 --> 01:23:07,960
That's, that's fine.

1052
01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:12,620
We can, to be blunt, we can just bring this up next year.

1053
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:17,960
Because if there's a lot of moving pieces going on, I don't want to put something in

1054
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:22,880
I don't know, but it's going to go in jeopardy where they can't fulfill their effort.

1055
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:29,900
I guess my question would be, is there any issue with, I mean, if we think it's going to be a long agenda,

1056
01:23:30,220 --> 01:23:33,700
going up stairs ourselves unless there's a presentation like, right?

1057
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:34,480
You know?

1058
01:23:34,740 --> 01:23:37,400
Yes, so we can do that, the peace I know.

1059
01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:39,260
But these chairs are so much, I don't know.

1060
01:23:39,340 --> 01:23:39,560
I don't know.

1061
01:23:39,580 --> 01:23:40,720
I didn't want to say it.

1062
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:42,600
I didn't want to say it, but...

1063
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,320
I'm glad you said it because I was...

1064
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,320
I was, I was like...

1065
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,360
But I know there has been a

1066
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:57,380
Direction at least to staff to make sure that commissions are being televised. Yeah, they want us to go. Oh, okay

1067
01:23:57,380 --> 01:24:03,680
That makes sense. What to your point if there's a meeting where we know it's gonna be super long

1068
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:04,680
We could go up

1069
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,180
Right, we can

1070
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:15,820
Relax the ability is there the bigger pieces if we were juggling and saying all I want to do a special meeting out of the blue like that's

1071
01:24:15,820 --> 01:24:22,760
That's a little different just because we have to see what other if the business special meeting what day is it occurring on can any of you make it

1072
01:24:23,480 --> 01:24:26,160
What other commissions may have meetings on those nights?

1073
01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:34,000
So the key is just having a conversation to kind of get it in your old brains to say hey, is this an option or no, this doesn't work

1074
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:39,420
The other part to it is if it's locked in and we stay at the time that we do

1075
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:45,660
You know then from a staff level, it may be something we look at from you know

1076
01:24:45,820 --> 01:24:51,420
I don't know. Maybe how many cases are we taken to a meeting and whatnot and we had our Macs?

1077
01:24:53,380 --> 01:24:56,420
You know, because we do have a lot of discussion items that we have which is great

1078
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,700
But sometimes when we get like the hundred-year-old certificate

1079
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:07,880
First, it really depends on the applicant. Can they actually make the meeting? They can't make the meeting, then it's bouncing to the next month.

1080
01:25:08,540 --> 01:25:15,360
But like, for example, what we had just gone through with the historic district, there's a pretty strong procedure that we have to follow,

1081
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:25,200
where when it is a public hearing, we can't really necessarily limit and be like, hey, we only have an hour, and then people aren't given up.

1082
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:31,500
the right. Right. I mean, the process that they need and all the help. So, that's just where I'm coming from.

1083
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:37,120
It's just food for time. All right. Thank you. Thank you.

1084
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:51,440
Speaking of historic district, I think you all saw the email. About 13.09. Yes. Being withdrawn. So, I am presuming city council will amend.

1085
01:25:52,260 --> 01:25:56,440
I don't know what the process is for doing that, but we'll amend the...

1086
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,700
Yeah, I presume they'll be an amendment to the motion to exclude 1309.

1087
01:26:02,260 --> 01:26:05,480
On the historic district, as you alluded to earlier in the meeting,

1088
01:26:05,980 --> 01:26:11,680
a lot of pushback from some members of Council, with not having...

1089
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:15,900
100% percent unanimous vote to be part of the district.

1090
01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:26,900
It was kind of hopeful that 1309 wouldn't submit an objection because they did, so, you know we'll proceed with the district with the four homes.

1091
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,120
And that will be on the eighth, is that part of the agenda for this?

1092
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,320
Yes, it should be on the middle.

1093
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:34,880
So if anybody wants to number either?

1094
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,080
Yes, September 8th Tuesday.

1095
01:26:37,700 --> 01:26:39,900
Because of Labor Day, they shifted it.

1096
01:26:41,660 --> 01:26:43,920
All right, would you like to say anything?

1097
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:55,540
I was really, if what I was going to speak to was, I thought it was interesting that the two homes today for the 100 year old certificates,

1098
01:26:55,640 --> 01:27:04,240
both turned 100 this year, so just curious if we know or if we reach out to other homes on those blocks and that and those neighborhoods,

1099
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:08,080
because imagine there's maybe a few left that are also.

1100
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:23,240
Yeah, what is a proper way to force that are like to, is there, is there a official way to communicate that to, like I could certainly, I know somebody whose house is going to be a hundred and nineteen, in twenty twenty eight.

1101
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:28,080
I reached out to a guy whose house is over a hundred.

1102
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:33,020
Oh, fourth mayor's house, sir. I don't know, I think he lives with me or says.

1103
01:27:34,700 --> 01:27:36,920
And he's, I'm trying to get him and Lori.

1104
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:41,080
So I'm just emailing people saying, hey, I got you.

1105
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:46,160
And somebody I know today just said, my house turns 100 this year.

1106
01:27:46,780 --> 01:27:48,620
So, I'll email her the certificate.

1107
01:27:50,140 --> 01:27:52,020
So, sorry.

1108
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:52,760
Yeah, go ahead.

1109
01:27:53,700 --> 01:27:55,620
To answer that question.

1110
01:27:55,980 --> 01:28:00,540
From a staff level, we don't necessarily send out wires.

1111
01:28:00,780 --> 01:28:03,320
If you want to say a letter to surrounding properties,

1112
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:09,960
asking, or not, essentially saying, hey, your home is 100 years old, if you consider this, I will say,

1113
01:28:10,020 --> 01:28:15,860
at least from an HPC standpoint, if there are properties that you see and are interested in knowing

1114
01:28:15,860 --> 01:28:21,260
more about, and if they meet their 100, and if they are 100 years old, I can always provide you all

1115
01:28:21,260 --> 01:28:29,100
with the Cook County Trigger, the Quarter's Office website, and you can look up their property

1116
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:36,060
as well as the pen. It's also something you can send to staff. It takes two minutes to really find it.

1117
01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:40,580
Now I can answer that for you quick. That could be something in the future.

1118
01:28:41,260 --> 01:28:42,700
That if this is something to condition.

1119
01:28:42,780 --> 01:28:43,560
I think it's great.

1120
01:28:43,820 --> 01:28:47,880
Some people have expressed concern to me about how will that affect my taxes?

1121
01:28:48,500 --> 01:28:50,000
And I said, no, it's a birthday card.

1122
01:28:50,220 --> 01:28:52,080
It's all it is. It's a birthday card.

1123
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:52,680
Yes.

1124
01:28:53,580 --> 01:28:55,300
They're not reporting you to anybody.

1125
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:56,280
Correct.

1126
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,060
It's not recorded against the property or anything like that.

1127
01:28:59,060 --> 01:29:02,300
It'd be in the paper or anything, you know, like,

1128
01:29:02,380 --> 01:29:03,640
isn't it out of fire?

1129
01:29:03,980 --> 01:29:07,540
Yeah, just as I say, there could be a Facebook post saying,

1130
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:08,780
it is your house 100.

1131
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:09,640
We'd like this.

1132
01:29:09,660 --> 01:29:10,520
And your birthday card.

1133
01:29:11,020 --> 01:29:12,880
And she and her meetings will be three hours long.

1134
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:13,480
Then we'll be.

1135
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:16,900
And Drew will come to them all.

1136
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,140
Drew will be there.

1137
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,880
I would say we can do their social media avenues.

1138
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:22,960
We can go down.

1139
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:24,760
There's also the spokesman.

1140
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:31,800
I know the spokesman encompasses everything that's going on in the city, but it doesn't take

1141
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:36,160
up a lot of space to have a little blurb in there and we're going to display at the library

1142
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:36,760
right now.

1143
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,220
Yes, I was going to mention that it's on my list.

1144
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:48,960
So I would say, because this isn't never ending common, I always provide to you that it's

1145
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:54,300
still going on the document that I owe you all, that can be another tab that's in there.

1146
01:29:55,020 --> 01:29:59,980
For those that have missed those meetings, there's been PS conversation where staff is going to propose.

1147
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,980
I had a document to the HPC that's pretty much like a similar to what you had tonight. But it's like a Google

1148
01:30:05,980 --> 01:30:13,020
Sheets document that it's continually saving that you all will have access to in properties in there that

1149
01:30:13,020 --> 01:30:18,760
you all are potentially interested in landmarking or want to know more information about whether it is under

1150
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:25,600
year old eligible, and then I know that something we've kind of thrown into our historic

1151
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:33,180
preservation plan not formally, but that consistent action of looking to designate landmarks

1152
01:30:33,180 --> 01:30:37,980
and whatnot, so that we're not having to take minutes or whatever time to look back

1153
01:30:37,980 --> 01:30:38,200
back.

1154
01:30:38,220 --> 01:30:39,580
What did we talk about two months ago?

1155
01:30:39,780 --> 01:30:43,460
And instead we can pull up that sheet and say, hey, at the start of the year, maybe

1156
01:30:43,460 --> 01:30:48,380
going into 27, we can say, hey, here's the 10th properties that you all talked about.

1157
01:30:48,900 --> 01:30:54,640
of these 10, what are five, you know, for example, in 2027, that you'd like to see that

1158
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:54,940
landmark.

1159
01:30:55,180 --> 01:31:00,580
So that we have those continual benchmarks, if you want to say, for hitting landmarks

1160
01:31:00,580 --> 01:31:05,980
and when there's your old homes and actively, you know, giving birthday cards and what.

1161
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:12,300
But I think to the point that John brought up something I've been trying to get on top of,

1162
01:31:12,780 --> 01:31:18,320
but our website, especially for my historic preservation standpoint, and now having this document

1163
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:24,420
or the survey, there's information in regards, excuse me, there's information in there regarding

1164
01:31:25,620 --> 01:31:31,340
from a financial standpoint what landmarks and historic districts and all that do, both from

1165
01:31:31,340 --> 01:31:36,260
an national budget, or standpoint, but also from the state. So that's just going to be more

1166
01:31:36,260 --> 01:31:41,940
information that will be putting out there so that when you all have those inquiries or conversations

1167
01:31:41,940 --> 01:31:47,600
with the public regarding landmarks or historic districts or 100 year old home and they're like

1168
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:49,920
What does this mean for my property?

1169
01:31:50,520 --> 01:32:00,100
Well, I reached out to the owners of, I don't know, the triangle building between

1170
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:08,600
Devon and Telcutt Road, which it's not going to go anywhere and can't imagine anything.

1171
01:32:08,740 --> 01:32:14,520
And it's a wonderful building, and I asked them about what they considered landmarking.

1172
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,860
And the response was, well, not at this time,

1173
01:32:18,020 --> 01:32:19,500
but is there a financial incentive?

1174
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:22,900
And I mean, I don't know what kinds of grants

1175
01:32:22,900 --> 01:32:25,800
are available to landmarks.

1176
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:30,420
I don't know if there's something that HBC should be asking

1177
01:32:30,420 --> 01:32:36,120
of city council or the city to do something,

1178
01:32:36,440 --> 01:32:41,200
or support something, but they're building

1179
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,000
as under-deers-old, and it's got tile roofs.

1180
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:50,280
and I know tile roofs at 100 years is about its lifetime, so at some point somebody's going

1181
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:54,580
to have to invest in a roof, so I don't know, I mean, that's just where my brain went.

1182
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:01,640
But having that kind of information in I am less conversant than I should be, I know.

1183
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:07,220
But, you know, providing that to them might be an incentive,

1184
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:10,300
but I don't know if there

1185
01:33:10,300 --> 01:33:15,900
things that I should be asking city of Park Ridge to support, you know, I don't know what other

1186
01:33:15,900 --> 01:33:21,320
communities do again. I'm less conversant than I should be. But anyway, so that was one.

1187
01:33:21,500 --> 01:33:29,480
And then I also talked to a house on Vine Street and they would like to landmark their home.

1188
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:38,660
And their daughter is going to live in it next. So it's not going to be a problem. But again, they requested

1189
01:33:38,660 --> 01:33:45,600
some sort of confirm understanding as to what landmarking means. So that's something I have to

1190
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:51,200
get back to them about. There isn't exhibit at the library, I have not seen it, I hope to get

1191
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,800
up there tomorrow or maybe tonight.

1192
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:01,820
Jennifer and her team there have been super awesome and putting

1193
01:34:01,820 --> 01:34:09,900
get together. I crafted parts of it and made a display board at the farmer's market and

1194
01:34:09,900 --> 01:34:14,800
then sent her the photographs and she did something with it. All the pieces.

1195
01:34:15,380 --> 01:34:21,600
Yes. I think I might want to add some photographs to it so maybe put some things on the bottom.

1196
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:27,040
I always say something when you can write part of it out whenever you need the posters and take them out.

1197
01:34:28,620 --> 01:34:30,820
Yeah, I don't have a printer that big.

1198
01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:33,940
But when are I book, when are my garb bookmarks?

1199
01:34:34,220 --> 01:34:35,280
When are the bookmarks?

1200
01:34:37,340 --> 01:34:37,680
Okay, good.

1201
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,160
I don't like to be the only one asking about those.

1202
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,180
I don't like those.

1203
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:47,760
Um, bookmarks.

1204
01:34:48,500 --> 01:34:54,320
I, I, I know there was a conversation about maybe one a year and I might be dead in 20 years.

1205
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:58,620
or 25 years whenever we get more landmarks.

1206
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:07,420
But I did ask, I think, at the last meeting, if it might be possible to squeeze one or two more?

1207
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:07,840
Yes.

1208
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,940
This year, for October 14th event.

1209
01:35:11,440 --> 01:35:12,320
But that was.

1210
01:35:12,780 --> 01:35:14,200
I would say it's definitely possible.

1211
01:35:14,380 --> 01:35:18,620
I think the piece staff wanted to confirm was, how many words are we going to have?

1212
01:35:19,020 --> 01:35:20,540
Okay. Oh, that budget.

1213
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:21,140
Okay.

1214
01:35:21,440 --> 01:35:21,640
Got it.

1215
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,440
Now, knowing we have one less than what we had later.

1216
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:25,880
Okay.

1217
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,200
That should free up.

1218
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:27,620
Awesome.

1219
01:35:27,620 --> 01:35:28,620
That's the actual amount.

1220
01:35:30,740 --> 01:35:31,200
So.

1221
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:32,860
It would say 90%.

1222
01:35:32,860 --> 01:35:33,280
Okay.

1223
01:35:33,580 --> 01:35:34,800
And then.

1224
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:35,800
Flex.

1225
01:35:37,100 --> 01:35:37,460
Flex.

1226
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:38,520
I apologize.

1227
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:39,140
It's ongoing.

1228
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:40,120
It's ongoing.

1229
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:41,280
It's ongoing, please.

1230
01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:45,740
I have a slot at the farmers market this weekend.

1231
01:35:46,260 --> 01:35:49,520
I think it's the last one I signed up for for each BC.

1232
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:55,860
I have a memory game that I made up.

1233
01:35:55,900 --> 01:35:57,100
And I've had that.

1234
01:35:57,100 --> 01:36:00,960
But I don't know. I was wondering about doing something different.

1235
01:36:01,780 --> 01:36:04,800
Maybe giving kids a picture of a landmark

1236
01:36:05,420 --> 01:36:07,780
and saying if they get back to me

1237
01:36:07,780 --> 01:36:10,600
with a picture of them standing at the landmark

1238
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,320
that they should get a prize.

1239
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:14,080
But I don't know what prize.

1240
01:36:16,140 --> 01:36:16,960
And I screamed on.

1241
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:20,420
That was a thought I had.

1242
01:36:20,500 --> 01:36:22,780
I never done a scavenger hunt for those.

1243
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:24,100
Yeah, it would be like on.

1244
01:36:25,060 --> 01:36:31,540
Oh, I found this place, we sent our kids on the scavenger hunt once, when we needed to keep them busy.

1245
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,280
I'll look at where it's in there, I won't. Never mind.

1246
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,220
But it was great. We were at a fastest neighborhood.

1247
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:42,240
I like that because when they go to several places and they get a prize,

1248
01:36:42,700 --> 01:36:44,980
maybe a bingo kind of thing where you get a row.

1249
01:36:45,540 --> 01:36:49,120
You have to have something about the building, like, what, you know, so that you know the...

1250
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:53,780
recently like looked into. Yeah, you know like five places around

1251
01:36:53,780 --> 01:36:59,220
the house. Yeah, you know, within like a few blocks of the farmer's market. Yeah, I like that.

1252
01:36:59,220 --> 01:37:05,260
Love Scamager Hunters. It's a library. It's all due to John. Who's got a creating scavenger

1253
01:37:05,260 --> 01:37:09,220
cut in two days?

1254
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:18,780
Yeah, okay. Okay. I can print it. I'll trade you all.

1255
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:20,980
You print that, I can print you some poster.

1256
01:37:21,700 --> 01:37:22,020
Okay.

1257
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,020
I got this thing going here.

1258
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:26,560
Two days, yeah.

1259
01:37:26,580 --> 01:37:27,420
All right.

1260
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,880
I mean, I'll have the whatever.

1261
01:37:30,440 --> 01:37:30,500
Anyway.

1262
01:37:30,580 --> 01:37:30,920
Thank you.

1263
01:37:31,780 --> 01:37:34,500
Memory board with me at the farmer's market.

1264
01:37:34,860 --> 01:37:36,100
Anybody wants to come?

1265
01:37:37,860 --> 01:37:41,560
I think I have the 10, 40, 10, 30 slot.

1266
01:37:43,260 --> 01:37:43,680
I think.

1267
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:45,760
But I'll email you and let you know.

1268
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:46,120
Thank you.

1269
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:46,760
I don't remember.

1270
01:37:48,800 --> 01:38:02,180
I share hope it isn't 104 degrees. I will melt. Okay. Are there any other things that we should be talking about that I forgot?

1271
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:18,600
I was going to say it is from a staff level. We'll have certain things to discuss in October.

1272
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,960
I don't know if we'll have any 100 year old home.

1273
01:38:20,980 --> 01:38:22,040
My raise.

1274
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:26,140
I'm on a roll tonight.

1275
01:38:26,540 --> 01:38:28,940
I cannot comment at this at this time.

1276
01:38:29,180 --> 01:38:31,320
But if you have any questions, you can always reach out to me.

1277
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:32,120
Thank you very much.

1278
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:38,500
So I would say a couple things that we'll definitely talk about

1279
01:38:38,500 --> 01:38:43,540
is probably prep for the following week for the awards program.

1280
01:38:44,460 --> 01:38:45,500
You may get 100 year old home.

1281
01:38:45,540 --> 01:38:46,000
We may not.

1282
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:46,860
You will have a landmark.

1283
01:38:46,860 --> 01:38:51,520
I will probably want to have a landmark because the date for submittal would have already passed.

1284
01:38:53,300 --> 01:38:59,740
But I know one thing we definitely will have is probably your 2027 meeting calendar.

1285
01:39:00,420 --> 01:39:03,100
Now, we've kind of figured out we're bumping this to 2028.

1286
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:06,100
So staff will try and provide that.

1287
01:39:06,580 --> 01:39:10,320
For the next meeting, it's best to try and get them done in September.

1288
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:16,020
October just because once November December hits, I know people at places to go and people to see.

1289
01:39:16,020 --> 01:39:18,720
So we want to make sure everybody's on the same page.

1290
01:39:19,820 --> 01:39:23,960
So I'll make sure to bring that in the 2027 meeting calendar,

1291
01:39:27,140 --> 01:39:29,000
wrap for awards.

1292
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:33,020
And then after that, I'll keep y'all posted.

1293
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,440
I don't think it'll be as long of a meeting as tonight was.

1294
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:41,580
But yeah, we had a lot going on, so good else to you all.

1295
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:42,740
Thanks, John, good.

1296
01:39:43,860 --> 01:39:44,920
I made it.

1297
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:46,540
and you made it.

1298
01:39:46,620 --> 01:39:47,520
I told you.

1299
01:39:48,980 --> 01:39:50,080
I didn't do it like that one.

1300
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,940
I will say if I don't respond to any of your emails in a day,

1301
01:39:54,140 --> 01:39:55,660
it doesn't mean I didn't see it.

1302
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,420
It more so means I saw it and forgot to respond.

1303
01:39:59,140 --> 01:39:59,800
This is a clarify.

1304
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:09,240
All right. Is there anything else anybody wants to discuss? Or shall we have a motion to adjourn?

1305
01:40:11,010 --> 01:40:12,630
Boy, I love the silence.

1306
01:40:13,670 --> 01:40:19,570
You like it. You're really going to make it the motion. I'm not a motion that we adjourn.

1307
01:40:21,090 --> 01:40:23,490
I second that motion.

1308
01:40:23,650 --> 01:40:26,170
I second that motion.

1309
01:40:29,410 --> 01:40:34,230
All in favor, and he opposed. I guess the motion carries.

1310
01:40:34,390 --> 01:40:36,590
All right, just the innumerable motion rings.

1311
01:40:37,190 --> 01:40:39,030
Well, again, no, I found work.

1312
01:40:39,530 --> 01:40:40,270
I don't need it.

1313
01:40:40,450 --> 01:40:42,870
So this, I'm going to have to start looking at your cheek.