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Okay. So our print item up is our seat up, crystal, and I'm going to butcher this armor, armor and clearance, arm and darkness.

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Arm and darkness.

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Do you see it way better than I do? It's good to meet you. I know we've talked.

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Yes, we've talked to you again.

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Good to meet you. Yeah.

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We've got a seat up.

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Yes.

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And this is the Region 1 Director of Tranquility for the Justice Department.

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Welcome.

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We're going to tag team.

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I'll take the first half and she'll take the next half.

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Thank you.

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We'll have you here.

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All right.

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We'll turn it over to you.

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Nice picture there, right?

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That's a beautiful view.

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And the council board, so bad either.

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I'm going to go through my notes here.

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So as I mentioned, my name is Chris Luminati.

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I'm the local government liaison for C.D.

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And it's a pleasure to be here to see me,

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because I have this information to you all.

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I just want to share a little bit on C.D.

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mission, vision, and values. So vision is to enhance the quality of life and the environment

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of the citizens of Colorado by creating an integrated transportation system that focuses

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on safety moving people and goods by offering convenient linkages about normal places.

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The mission is to provide the best multi-modal transportation system for Colorado that most effectively

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and safely move this people goods and information and values safety safety first we work

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together to achieve a high performing safety culture equal we value our employees and the

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people of Colorado integrity we are honest and responsible in all that we do and hold ourselves

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to the highest moral and effort to save us customer service we strive to provide the highest level

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customer satisfaction and experience. Excellence in accountability in the leverage diversity to bring

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different ideas, experiences and perspectives to further excellence in everything we do in

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and lastly, and the community can most importantly, is respect. We're kind and civil with everyone

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and the act of courage, humility, and accountability.

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It's not. It's not.

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There we go again.

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So that's okay, and just to brief overview on these icons.

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So the fiscal year 2023 revenue allocation plan

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with a $1.8 billion budget, you know, we're responsible for the color

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on a state of highway system encompassing over 9000 line miles,

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with over 23 million total line miles.

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There are three over 3,400 bridges and other major structures

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throughout the state highway system.

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Maintenance crews have filed more than six million lay miles last winter season, which is phenomenal considering how much snow we've had.

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Think about this last year.

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Let's see.

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Help maintain a monitor.

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278 avalanche paths.

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Colorado's aviation system includes 76 public use airports.

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and bus staying, CDOT's interregional bus service provided over 1.9 million revenue service

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miles in fiscal year 2023.

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Transportation commissioners, so you see that there are 11

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commission districts, the first four that are bolded, are within the Dr. Scott planning

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agent, and the Transportation Commissioners are CDOT's governing study. There are 11 members

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that are appointed by the governor and he firms by Senate, and the confirmation occurs

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during the legislative session between January and May, there are four-year terms, and traditionally

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there is a two-term limit for commissioners, because there's meets monthly they have continued

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interaction throughout the month with an each respective district, and they set the following.

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Annual budget, they develop policy directives for the department, they develop our goals

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for the transportation system.

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Let's get in this one.

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No, okay.

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But what transportation commissioners do not do is pick projects in any category.

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Except the 10 year plan.

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Instead, rely on planning efforts to identify highest priority projects.

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It's a very UCMF of our C. engineering regions.

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There are five engineering regions,

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which are an important part of implementing transportation infrastructure projects. Region 1 works closely

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with Dr. Cog and Transportation Planning in the region.

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Thanks. Now Jessica will expand more

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on Region 1 and there's a lot of exciting things going on in Region 1.

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Let's see if we can hear it. Okay.

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The Denver region council would government, Dr. Cog,

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We have the MPOs, which is Metropolitan Planning Organization, and the regional planning activities.

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They provide an oversight of the Metropolitan Regional Planning process by supporting and coordinating planning activities with internal and external planning partners, including the seat on engineering regions.

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Metropolitan College are using MPOs and Transportation Planning Regions which are referred to as TPRs.

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Now, we're going to see that funds, it's just a brief overview,

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so we're going to see that funds come from.

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So, let's see, we've got 40.8 per se, excuse me, let me find the place that we had.

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We have 46.3% of federal programs, 32.7% highly users tax fund, 8.5,

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bridging tunnel enterprise, 4.9% other seed on enterprises listed,

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and let's see 3.9% of other

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state funds, and 3.7 aeronautics. Now note that this board is separate, and they grant awards to

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And again, just to brief overview of how are these funds allocated for fiscal year 2024,

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40.8% is capital construction, 25.7% is maintenance and operations, 17.7% sub-allocated

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programs, 6.6% administration and agency operations, 6.2% other programs, debt service and

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contingency funding, and lastly, 3% is for multiple services.

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Now, here's our 10-year plan, just to breathe over view, and again, this information, there's a link there that can take you to this website and to this particular information and beyond that, but he just wanted to provide a free, high-level overview and I'm happy to answer, or excuse me, maybe not answer, but provide additional information should you need that.

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And 2019-2029 consists of a four-year funded plan and six years of other project priorities.

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So I'm just going to read the 10-year planning claims the strategic pipeline of projects, 1,000 plus lane miles touched, 15 rehabilitated or new transit facilities, and a focus on taking care of our system.

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Over 50% of the funds go to improve the condition of our roadway system, and, again, like I mentioned, the full 10 year plan information can be found on that link there, which I believe you have all had received a copy of this presentation.

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And just to note, Sita has made significant progress to catch up on critical road and bridge repairs add travel options, really traffic choke points, make critical safety improvements and bring transit to new quarters of the state.

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See that has completed 54 projects today with an additional 40 projects, currently

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under construction, 100% of the projects in the first four years are complete or under

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construction, and over half of the full 10-year plan is now complete or in progress.

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CDOT will continue building the connections to keep our state thriving.

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detrimental region of the glance.

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We have 18 projects completed in 2023.

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We have 34 projects that are underway and 21 projects to begin in 2024.

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to leave me into our statewide key accomplishments.

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So we have 122 total projects completed.

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661 million awarded to the contractors.

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It's in reference before 6.2 million lay miles cloud, 860 million paid to contractors,

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and 100% of the projects in the first 40 years of the 10-year plan, again, are complete or under construction.

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And lastly, 25% increase in bus staying system-wide ridership.

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There's a lot of information, but again, to speak over view, happy to provide additional information as needed.

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Um, but now we'd like to turn this over, um, starting with Slain 11, um, again to just

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coming across the region one transportation director.

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Thank you and we do not have uniforms to see that.

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But we did, and we are addressing like two in a minute.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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Oh, I love it.

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I love it.

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which kind of Parker resides within Region 1 if you didn't know.

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So I'm going to go through Crystal kind of went through the higher umbrella

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who is Cida as an organization statewide.

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I'm going to dive us down into Region 1.

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So hopefully if you have questions, I brought some of this cards.

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If you ever have questions, I can connect you with my team to help answer those as well.

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So of the Lane Miles Region 1 has 4100 Lane Miles.

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So I also have 450 professional maintainers.

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they are each responsible for about 100 lane miles.

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after storm, fixing guardrail, each maintainer

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has 100 miles of road, all the lanes both sides.

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the highway and find all of those things.

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that we have, but we have a lot to take care of.

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We have eight counties and there listed up there.

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56 local agencies, so really big customer service space, total 750 employees, five engineering

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programs, counter-futter is in south engineering programs, Stephanie Allenies is the program

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engineer for south program, she's leaving sea dot to go work with her husband, so we're

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going to be replacing her soon. And then we have three maintenance sections, you all are located

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in section five of our maintenance areas.

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So in region one, we drive about 35 million miles a day.

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region one is smaller.

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We are the largest in terms of population and lane miles

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and just like how many miles are driven every single day.

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So some of our really exciting projects,

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we need to familiar with some of these.

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These are on the 10-year plan.

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I-70 West Floyd Hill, this is a really big project,

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because we wind driven up to the mountains

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to go skiing recently and seeing construction

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along I-70 near Floyd Hill.

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I take this opportunity to say, if you do make that drive,

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regularly, we have a text message.

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they're 20 minute traffic holds.

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and you'll get text alerts that'll say hello.

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today we're going to do rock blasting that's going to start in 30 minutes and then it will say

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when that shouldn't flee as well. So really good communication system that's a major project

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replacing those older bridges down at the bottom of Floyd Hills going to be a really long

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via that. That's going to be really good. Thanks for your help to 21,000. Probably. I say backwards.

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Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. All lower case, one word, Floyd Hill. Yeah. I think Howard Johnson Memorial

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tunnel again if you're from Colorado, it's up at the top kind of in between before you start

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heading down into Summit County. It just turned 50 this past year and with anything that turns 50

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it needs a little bit of care and love. And so we have been investing substantially in the Eisenhower

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Johnson Memorial tunnel 50 million dollars from the plan was put in last year as you drive through

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tunnel we've got wall panels and the route was actually cracking and they were kind of being held up with

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some ships. It was really an interesting. So we've replaced all that. It goes through a mountain

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and so we've got water issues, the water always wants to find its way out of the mountains. So

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Isaac Howard Johnson Memorial Tunnel is a huge asset and vision one and we're spending a lot of

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time and attention really getting it up to standards. The I270 improvements projects, which is

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70s located in Adams County, Central City, I-25 to I-70. Again, replacing that aging infrastructure,

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the bridges along that corridor are over 15 years old and we have regular maintenance issues

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with those with pot holes and they always happen on Friday afternoon in the middle of rush hour.

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So not great for the public, not great for professional main painters to be out in traffic flow.

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U.S. Six in Los Rift Boulevard interchange. Again, this is a really, this is an older interchange, Clover League style.

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We were successful in securing some I.I.J.A.

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The infrastructure investment in jobs act under this current presidential administration. There's a lot of funds coming down. We received 20 million dollars to put toward this interchange replacement. So, old infrastructure and we're going to do a lot of multimodal improvements to connect to the adjacent light real station.

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And new, newer, region-wide bus and rapid transit, so five new BRT corridors by 2030, jump deeper into bus and rapid transit.

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Really, this is part of our Senate Bill 260 in our attention to meeting the greenhouse gas reduction goals of the governor has set for us.

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So it's shifting the way people are traveling along some key corridors, particularly in region one that would be federal Boulevard and Colorado Boulevard of note, those two corridors held their ridership during COVID.

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So while the rest of us were possibly remote, those corridors held their bus ridership.

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So really strong demand on those corridors were also helping to attract some really key versus less mile connections.

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If you're not familiar with bus and rapid transit, what makes it different, then your current bus level boarding,

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since the walking upstairs to get to the bus, you can just set on to the bus, you pay for your ticket before you get on the bus.

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All doors are access doors.

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The real time or arrival of one of the bus will be coming and usually with BRT, we like to say halfway times of 15 minutes or less.

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So pretty efficient system.

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Region 4 is carrying one of the other BRT's kind of up in that top-left corner to CO-19's diagonal highway and that one is in a start construction in not too long.

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Denver is doing their close-backs BRT, which will be under construction in a couple of years, and then we're looking at doing an extension of the close-backs BRT east into Aurora.

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So those are the five corridors and it compliments really well in the map with the bus staying system, the fast track system, so really looking at kind of that holistic way to move people in the Denver metro area.

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I've mentioned a few times bad bridges and outdated infrastructure and in region one we had I think we're slowly tripping away at it literally we had about a 500 million dollar need to replace just bad bridges alone.

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And so a lot of these bridges were constructed greater than 50 years ago, the top right corner photo is the i70 30 second avenue that you've ever been to apple jess liquor on the way out west.

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There's there was going to be a cabell is there, but it actually moved down south, but that's the i70 30 second avenue bridge and then below is the completed bridge replacement.

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Some of the other bridges as you're driving in along I-70, I-70 in Harlan is currently under construction.

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I-70 in Ward Road, those bridge pairs currently under construction.

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And then we're hoping which is submitted for a grant to the Bridge Improvement Program through I-G-A-A-A-V-I-70 in Quebec.

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So excited to get some of these replaced, particularly the I-70 ones are pretty rough and they have a lot of traffic.

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that they carry on a daily basis.

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So we've focused intentionally on what's metro bridges,

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which kind of goes from like I-25 out to maybe

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what Morrison area.

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Some of our other projects that we've done,

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I-17 noiseball replacements.

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We have 12 assets that see that are funded.

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They're not fully funded, but enough that we could try

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to do with what we can.

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noise walls are one asset that generally don't have a sustainable funding source. So the governor

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had some funds that came around, kind of early COVID and we were able to put those to use

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these are the i7D noise walls from on i7D between i25 and wadsworth. Right now if you see the

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left photo it's dilapidated fences. I wouldn't have been necessarily call them noise barriers

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because of their condition phase one of the panel replacements is complete and we're going to start

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these two. So when you drive two Denver and see kind of those new

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concrete panels, we're really excited about that project. And the adjacent

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residences are also very exciting to have that done.

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So shifting gears a little bit crystal touched on maintenance and

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operations. We have, we just don't sleep. We go 24, 7 operations, including

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firefighting capabilities at the tunnel. We do have breakdowns periodically in the

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local cars or trucks or bands, catch on fire. So we cover all the way from, you know, the tunnel,

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and then snow fighting operations, you know, all the way out to deer trails, just, you know, pretty far

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east, south, Castle Rock and North, to stay highway seven. So our miles of cloud roadways are about 1.35

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million miles. And that was for last year. Striping, we did about 2600 line miles. That's a lot of

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right thing. We actually just purchased the team, the right thing team, a new paint truck.

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Which is kind of interesting. So they'll have a new paint truck, so which means we'll have two paint trucks in the region to cover all the lame miles that we need to paint.

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We have switched and started doing grooming operations at night. So grooming operations are really tricky. You'll notice and it's one of our higher complaints that the roadway the shoulders look really dirty.

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There's a lot of debris, there's bumpers, there's fires, there's fire seats or shoes.

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We really rely on the traveling public to secure their loads.

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It really is all of our responsibility to keep your stuff in your car or in your truck.

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And it's hard to broom, particularly on inner states because you have to take out that shoulder to really get the cleaning done.

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So we've been trying to do it at night.

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Last year we did about 6,500 miles of nighttime grooming.

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A couple of repairs, about 20,000, 20,000, 4,100 square yards of concrete and asphalt.

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Degree removal from our system, again, that's from the grooming operations.

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This does not count for homeless encampments, this degree removal.

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So, 18,000 cubic yards of debris from our system.

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So, substantial amount of debris from just things that are left in the bounce out of trucks.

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People throw stuff out of their cars on purpose, mattresses, all kinds of things.

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Incident response, 86% of incident responses crashes across the state are in region one.

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So again, we're small and geographic size, but fair to the large impact and travel.

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So it's always curious, and it's it's a service that a lot of people don't know that we have adopted.

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We wish we didn't have to do it.

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This is a homeless campaign cleanup that was underneath Quebec near Northfield.

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So you can see on the left side, that was before the cleanup began.

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This was about a day and a half cleanup.

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We actually hired some crews from Colorado Correctional.

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Folks, and they came out and helped our teams.

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We have started contracting homeless encampment cleanups out.

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It's really hard for morale from our professional maintainers to know that

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I have to fix guardrail and then you want me to do what? Go clean up what?

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So we we're seeing quite a bit of turnover. It's also very hazardous work. So we've been

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Contracting quite a bit of it out. I have a homelessness and a team that kind of directs the work. They have a full schedule of cleanups that lines out, you know, a couple of days a week for the next six months, we're cleaning up here, we're cleaning up here.

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We've really been relying on our local agency partners to do IGAs so that they have access to these areas. It's worked really well.

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That way, after being clean out, the biggest most important thing is enforcement from a local police force is to go in and enforce

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You can't trust past here. So the IGAs have said, hey, local agency, your police force is allowed to go on CDOT property and enforce and remove individuals.

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So just, you know, I think it's important to note that some of our maintainers have been diverted from doing safety critical repairs to homeless and Catholic cleanups.

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Creating to region one because of our, we've just got so many way in miles, we've created kind of a unique contracting mechanism that allows us to do smaller scale paving.

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Like if we have a off ramp from i25 and we just see it continually has potable after potable after potable after potable.

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Instead of just patching the potables, we created the ability to do a smaller scale resurfacing treatment less than a mile.

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And that's been really successful for us and our team, so we're really happy with that.

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One of the interesting things that probably some of your constituents might have remembered is the i25 coordinated ramp metering.

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So we are just in a spot with i25.

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We need to do some creative congestion management.

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We can't leave it the way it is, and widening is not really on the table.

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So we had a pilot programs do coordinated grant-metering, and this went from Northbound,

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I-25 from Ridgegate to University was about 14 miles, but we had 18 individual entrance ramps

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that were metered, and if you're not sure what metering is, it's the little lights, the turn green,

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or red, and some people don't care what they say, but they actually are really useful.

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And we had three new freeway ramps that were metered.

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So I 225 to I 25, C470 to I 25 and E470 to I 25.

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And this was a pilot program.

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It has since ended.

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We have kept the infrastructure in place.

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Unfortunately, the company we were piloting with

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was out of Australia, where they've had wild success

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with the program, but due to some security issues,

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we can't continue to let them have access to our system.

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Good news is that we just won a federal grant

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for $1.5 million from CARM, CAARM, again, it's another IHA, and we'll be able to continue analyzing

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this.

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We just found out we won last week, it's really excited, because we did see benefit from this

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coordinated grant metering.

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So coordinated grant metering, what it does, which is really interesting, the meters actually

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talk to each other.

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So if I have a meter at Yale, and I have a meter at Colorado, and Yale is starting to bog up,

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the Yale meter will tell Colorado, hey, I've got too many people trying to get on

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highway a Yale, hold them a little bit longer.

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Three seconds longer at Colorado.

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And then the meter will say, OK, I'm going to fold these two

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both three seconds longer, so we can clear out the Yale

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on ramp, and then the Yale on ramp will then say, OK,

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I'm looking good, release your three second extra

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cue fold, let the traffic flow.

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So it's a real time kind of, I want to use the word, AI is not

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bad smart, but it's a really smart algorithm that

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allows the meters to top to each other.

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So what we realized that was multiple benefits.

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Um, 14.3 average decrease in travel time for the PM peak period, uh, reduced the overall travel

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times by 19 percent. So about four minutes at the height of the PM peak period, which doesn't

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feel substantial, but that's really big. Four minutes of safe travel time is actually quite substantial.

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Um, we were able to increase travel time reliability, which anyone who drives I 25, even coming

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down here tonight, I think Chris and I were well,

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and I'm just going to take you here.

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So being able to give a little bit more reliability

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on how long it takes people to get where they're trying

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to go, it's always a good thing.

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We were able to reduce total travel delay by about 827 hours,

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so 42% decrease in that ramp meter to area.

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We were able to break through some bottlenecks,

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but, again, the ramp meters are talking to each other,

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saying, you know, you're creating a bottleneck

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old let me go, old the two above let me go first. So we really saw some benefits from it and I'm

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I'm looking forward to getting this new grant money, so we can continue this study and I'd like

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to get something permanent instead of just the pilot project.

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Not too far from here we did have,

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so there's the I.I.J.A. sign, I try and pop that in. So we did, we got a substantial size of

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grant award for the Greenland Wildlife Overpass, which is down in the gap, $22 million dollars.

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It was the largest in the nation. This is for the wildlife crossing that will actually be one of the

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largest and more than America. It's in overpass. And so just wanted to point that out to

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continue to think probably some of you up from there with it. So we were really excited about the ability to

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like that. We've been successful in region one as you can tell with grants. And so we've been getting

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creative on how we've found transportation projects because our pipeline of funding with the

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slides at Crystal was showing is not going to get us where we need to be a volunteer movement

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stated.

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So, and that is region one and a wrap.

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That's a lot. It is a lot of people. Yeah.

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Okay, congratulations. That's a lot of. That's a good idea. Who's like straight up for the questions

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of college?

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Interesting.

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Kind of nice for the health staff.

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I think the old Syrian company did the version design survey in 1999.

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Thanks a lot.

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Great.

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Nature projects.

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But.

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In terms of like Parker, or close to Parker, one of these kinds of specific.

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You mentioned tenure planning.

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I know a Dr. Cogland.

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There's a four-paid plan that I think I've participated in by a phone call in the water, and we have a world where we need a partner and a board or a plan to try to engage in what's improvements we could have on a partner, because really that's the only thing we have.

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we have, see, that kind of curve, what projects are in the pipeline, near or around

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parker or maintenance things, and I know we had the overlay project that happens to get us

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until it's time when it's set up and even then at the end of the store. What do we have to look

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forward to, based on you in the parker? So 83, 83 study, and we're working on what's

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list money is, I call these brushes through the marker. It goes end to end all the way down to the top of the agenda too.

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And we're looking at funding some strategic improvements along that structure for safety.

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There's a lot of safety critical concerns.

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I believe we've done some rumble strips that a couple of locations and I know that they're looking at doing some additional.

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Safety implements and signalized intersections and some other things as well. So, as far as the town of Parker, proper, I don't think I was looking at the 10-year plan, but there isn't anything specifically on the plan that's in the town of Parker, we will probably have a 10-year plan kind of update refresh in the next couple years, and that would be something we're going to look at, you know, through the 4-P process, you should kind of bring the charges forward.

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And make recommendations for the plans.

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I don't know if Parker recommended anything during the last plan or not.

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But currently, just because you're not on the plan, there's not things happening.

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I've got resurfacing projects and signal projects and things like that.

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Yeah, and as I tell people, it's a really complicated and complex process.

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So I know we, we as Parker, you know, scouting for Parker, we rolled up with other

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to pass it into a corridor, you know, and talking to the county down south, there were some

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intersections that there's safety. So again, and again, going back to high school,

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Mommy had kids killed going on the road. So they were safety reasons. We expanded part of the

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road, not in sort of a capacity of a conjunction in reasons. So yeah, and again, I think that will

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that would be great to kind of know, if there's a single mention on sort of getting that

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expanded for the South even was not in town in Parker at E.L.A.S.

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in the influence area where we need a lot of people in the town that is quite a small

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parker, but it sure looks that way, and it really hasn't been a lot of improvements to

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health and safety statement. So with that, safety and congestion, what criteria kind of moves

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the needle in today's day and in, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm scoring process and the process guy.

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You know, I just don't know enough about how to see that,

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allocating the funding because an allocating based on region like based on population,

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Dr. Cod, we have a regional and a sub-regional, a regional, gets 20% that the rest of the

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sub-regional counties get 80% based off the formula of population. How does Cod go through

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allocating the constrained funding within regions and then how does the region, or indicate certain

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projects. Well, where's that house now? Well, it depends, so there's a lot of different pots of funding

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slide. Dr. Coyce spots too. Yes. Yes, it's a lot. There's a lot of bugs.

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A lot of them have a color of money. Color of money. So we call them colors of money.

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So

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A lot of our dollars go toward maintaining our existing assets, right?

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So, I mentioned the 12 assets that we have.

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There's a general asset management pot of money.

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There's, you know, so much for walls, so much for tunnels,

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so much for culverts.

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Once in a while, look at new fusions.

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So, we did just get some redistribution funds from the federal government.

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And those were kind of distributed to each of the regions based on the need.

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number of pull-words that actually had need to be repaired. So that was kind of a special circumstance.

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Faster funds if you look in that orange bracket. This is highway users tax fund.

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So those are your fuel taxes and fees. So a challenging part for our funding is we've had a 22

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cent gas tax since 1988. Guess was like what 99 cents on the 9 and cents. And now gas

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four dollars and we still get 22 cents a gallon. So that hasn't cheap. That's one of the challenges

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of our funding problem is we just haven't adjusted the gas tax. We have added fees so we have

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the registration fees, help cover some of the bridge and you'll see down in the green

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original enterprise faster fees. So if you look at your car registration it'll say

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virgin tunnel fee. So thank you for those. We use those. I think we've utilized

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Howard Johnson Memorial Tunnel and all the bridges that we're replacing in region one.

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So how we get them, I don't know the actual distribution,

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for British and Tunnel Enterprise, but for an example faster back up to the orange that we get a certain percentage of faster funds in region one and then the team runs through

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some calculation. So for example between the wildlife overpassed, a substantial portion of faster funding, a number of seven and eight million dollars and what they look at for faster funds, it's a safety.

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So we're looking at fatalities, crashes, and then they run a calculation, which is not my expertise.

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They run a calculation.

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If we've built this project, what's the likelihood that you would reduce, in this case, animal

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vehicle collisions, which can result in fatalities and have?

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What are the crashes?

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How many crashes do we currently have?

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How many crashes do you think this project would reduce?

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And then we are able to kind of dual out the faster funds faced on projects that need a certain criteria.

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Yeah, based on that calculation.

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So criteria change,

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annually, and dose the criteria,

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and the criteria criteria,

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criteria competing with different regions

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or from the same region.

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No, I get an allocation of funds for faster,

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and then I compete with myself, yeah.

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Yeah, and Douglas County's but art is really good.

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He understands funds and how to use them and how to,

428
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,680
and so he'll ask, do you have faster funds?

429
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,720
Can we tap into some of those for some of these projects?

430
00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:59,720
And as fresh as you're like, it's more important.

431
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:00,560
Thank you.

432
00:36:01,540 --> 00:36:02,020
Yeah.

433
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:03,540
So it's complicated.

434
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:05,340
Transportation is funding is complicated.

435
00:36:06,660 --> 00:36:08,600
You know, excuse me, because there's so many different

436
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,740
parts of funding that we get and they're each kind of allocated slightly differently.

437
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,360
Well, last one.

438
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:16,800
Great.

439
00:36:16,860 --> 00:36:20,040
The greenhouse gas policy kind of mentioned there.

440
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,580
It's talking about the RT.

441
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,160
We're sort of the end of the line for RT.

442
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,700
It's just it's kind of one of those.

443
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:38,480
things with the partners out. We hear all these, all these, these things, these mobility solutions,

444
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:46,180
potentially a successful amount of air, it's been not a partner, a partner, a partner,

445
00:36:46,180 --> 00:36:51,140
obviously, don't buy an older county, but the person that we're, we have more

446
00:36:51,140 --> 00:36:54,920
or EVs, and for the count, that was kind of fascinating.

447
00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:56,000
We're probably pretty close.

448
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,260
You know, you may go back and forth.

449
00:36:59,220 --> 00:37:02,980
But our reliance is to kind of out contributors

450
00:37:02,980 --> 00:37:04,180
in the greenhouse gas.

451
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,920
There's rose, and it seems the policy

452
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,740
and is trying to direct funding that would be used

453
00:37:14,740 --> 00:37:18,440
and maintained at the network, the current network,

454
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,840
and to turn it towards the other teams.

455
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:22,560
Their items like BRT,

456
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:25,940
is to try to mitigate the pollution.

457
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,980
If the EV did this one, it was mitigate.

458
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:41,060
That's what we mean by this county can kind of assist with and what we need roles. So it's kind of counterintuitive that our contribution needs

459
00:37:41,060 --> 00:37:46,280
roads and what I'm saying if we get to a point where bus becomes more and more.

460
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:53,400
He was willing to launch, yes, our very question, but out of those buses get from 20.

461
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,560
would be gross and a new transition period.

462
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:04,700
So, how does the house gas policy create challenges for you trying to

463
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:05,300
threaten all of that?

464
00:38:07,850 --> 00:38:08,330
Yeah.

465
00:38:08,530 --> 00:38:09,790
That's a big question.

466
00:38:10,030 --> 00:38:10,370
So we do.

467
00:38:10,370 --> 00:38:11,490
We got all the time in the world.

468
00:38:12,330 --> 00:38:14,110
I don't think we'll have to sex.

469
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:17,810
So if you look down in that bottom right hand corner,

470
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:20,330
you'll see several enterprises that have been created.

471
00:38:20,330 --> 00:38:26,210
So a few of those specifically are related, clean transit enterprise and the non-attainment

472
00:38:26,210 --> 00:38:29,450
air pollution mitigation enterprise, which is not me.

473
00:38:30,590 --> 00:38:34,150
So that's a funding source that you have to be in a non-attainment area to get.

474
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:37,570
So like we generally, five does not get not me funds.

475
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:43,290
So those funds, some of those come and we can use those only for very specific things like the RT.

476
00:38:43,950 --> 00:38:49,850
So I wouldn't be able to use not me enterprise fees, for example, on

477
00:38:49,850 --> 00:38:59,750
and I-25 rematering project if I wanted to do all the rematers, that funding wouldn't be available for that but it is available for things that help us with air pollution.

478
00:39:00,050 --> 00:39:08,950
And if it was potentially going to be a pretty good-sized pot of money, so we will be applying with the DRT funds for some of those net meet funds.

479
00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:11,650
Commissioner Eula Adams, he's your commissioner,

480
00:39:11,790 --> 00:39:13,770
our proposal mentioned with commissioners.

481
00:39:13,930 --> 00:39:16,350
We've just met with Douglas County commissioners,

482
00:39:16,430 --> 00:39:17,550
I don't know a couple of weeks ago,

483
00:39:17,630 --> 00:39:18,550
and it was a really great meeting

484
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:20,150
and the exact same thing came up.

485
00:39:20,330 --> 00:39:25,010
How are we looking at kind of these outline areas

486
00:39:25,010 --> 00:39:28,370
in terms of electric vehicles and infrastructure for them

487
00:39:28,370 --> 00:39:32,290
and how are the RIT lines maybe benefiting or not

488
00:39:32,290 --> 00:39:34,610
benefiting and how are we handling

489
00:39:35,470 --> 00:39:37,730
just the overall theory?

490
00:39:37,730 --> 00:39:41,810
and it was interesting, Commissioner Adams is trying to back to you, so you said, you know,

491
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:47,030
someday, you won't be rural anymore. I mean, if you look at the growth that you've had. So

492
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:51,250
we're, we're thinking long-term, we're thinking 50 years with the way we're moving people and

493
00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:56,610
people are traveling. I think in the short-term, we've got bushing, which has some interesting

494
00:39:56,610 --> 00:40:07,070
connections. I would say, I don't think that it's drawing funds from, from roadways. I mean, buses

495
00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:11,630
have to operate on roadways, e.g. have to operate on roadways, e.g. these are actually heavier,

496
00:40:12,250 --> 00:40:15,930
and regular cars, so we're still waiting to see what type of wear and tear that introduces

497
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:22,350
to the network. If we have a heavier demand for repairs. But I'm not seeing a diversion and

498
00:40:22,350 --> 00:40:27,230
that funds from one thing to get to the other thing, because maintenance of our roads is a different

499
00:40:27,230 --> 00:40:33,430
pot of money. So we're really made creative about how we're utilizing the funds and moving people,

500
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:42,810
me first, but but it contextually I love everyone because I've got Parker and I've got Denver and I've

501
00:40:42,810 --> 00:40:49,410
thought a very diverse group of constituents I've killed in County, right? And Mercury County. So it's a really

502
00:40:49,410 --> 00:40:54,650
interesting group that each one is contextually different. So recognizing that not you may not today,

503
00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:59,250
benefit from VRT, but how are we making those kind of longer-term advantages? And depending on what happens

504
00:40:59,250 --> 00:41:00,050
as much as possible.

505
00:41:01,170 --> 00:41:02,450
And some of our best things might

506
00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:04,270
make these some of that connections.

507
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:07,290
It was the narrative as long as

508
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:08,010
more towards a very house.

509
00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:12,770
And by my perception, some of the fun thing

510
00:41:12,770 --> 00:41:15,510
that we kind of want to say about

511
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:16,250
the end of this.

512
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:17,870
Because again, we have to understand

513
00:41:17,870 --> 00:41:18,990
what we have to understand.

514
00:41:20,810 --> 00:41:24,210
And we're a position now where we need those funds.

515
00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,350
But labor is again.

516
00:41:26,350 --> 00:41:33,550
the responses you can't you can't you can't you can't really or put lame miles you can't

517
00:41:33,550 --> 00:41:39,090
grow yourself out of having to pass there so some some kind of trying to try to make that

518
00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:45,270
if you add lame out you remember the self-promote that's very true but as as we know it was

519
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:50,970
County as Adams County and the other counties develop to get to the Mr. Adams

520
00:41:53,030 --> 00:42:02,010
We need support to build rows and seeing very challenging because the monies that are kind of

521
00:42:02,010 --> 00:42:09,170
really available are the white pad part of the ability and is very challenging to get a

522
00:42:09,170 --> 00:42:17,110
more project fully embraced in the state fair that could make a difference without going

523
00:42:17,110 --> 00:42:22,970
you're as soon as I've been in my houses and I'm in a long duration of time and it feels like

524
00:42:22,970 --> 00:42:26,950
that was never the case 15 years ago.

525
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:28,930
See, I'm just not here.

526
00:42:29,290 --> 00:42:30,470
Thank you. It's all over.

527
00:42:30,990 --> 00:42:34,510
So with the wildlife overcast, I love that.

528
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:36,710
Obviously, it's not completely yet.

529
00:42:37,010 --> 00:42:40,490
So two for a question. One, do you want one of the answers to take that being completed?

530
00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:44,290
And two, please tell me it's a game you take to put lots more in across the state.

531
00:42:47,650 --> 00:42:49,910
Yes, so first question, when will it be completed?

532
00:42:50,690 --> 00:42:56,450
We are currently in the process of securing the funds when the federal government, so it's great to get their funds.

533
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:59,310
It's kind of like you getting money from us, there's a whole lot of process.

534
00:42:59,710 --> 00:43:01,350
Actually, get the funds from them to us.

535
00:43:01,590 --> 00:43:04,890
We're hoping to break ground in the bubble, maybe.

536
00:43:05,610 --> 00:43:07,530
We'd have construction plans ready to go.

537
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:10,330
So a couple years construction, not too long.

538
00:43:10,910 --> 00:43:14,090
And then second, no, it's really exciting and region one.

539
00:43:14,090 --> 00:43:35,230
actually 15 years ago, I went to the thought as a transportation practitioner. We would have such a focus on wildlife, but we've got a wildlife crossing, we're going to do a really funny thing in this June at Genese 2 by 4 on i70. So if you've been driving through there, there's a large structure that elk have already kind of been lining up trying to like get through it.

540
00:43:35,230 --> 00:43:36,310
So it's really exciting.

541
00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:40,050
We're looking at doing another wildlife crossing at Empire.

542
00:43:40,570 --> 00:43:43,890
On US-40 right in the exit, I said, I have a big form

543
00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:48,450
sheep population that a lot of them are struck by vehicles.

544
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:51,110
And so we're looking at doing it over PACs,

545
00:43:51,230 --> 00:43:52,230
and it's almost a final design.

546
00:43:52,830 --> 00:43:55,810
So we actually, in region one, given how urbanity

547
00:43:55,810 --> 00:43:57,790
are, we have a lot of public on wildlife.

548
00:43:58,870 --> 00:44:01,470
We also had, I think it was down not far from here.

549
00:44:01,570 --> 00:44:04,270
And we have been in part of one of our trolls.

550
00:44:04,270 --> 00:44:09,970
We had a composting pile of rope-chill because we were paying a fortune to dispose of

551
00:44:09,970 --> 00:44:16,190
carcasses and so our environmental gals like if we could compost the rope-chill we could have

552
00:44:16,190 --> 00:44:20,750
some, you know, like soil. It's kind of an unusual project but it was down near here we had it.

553
00:44:20,810 --> 00:44:34,250
We had a pile and it worked out pretty well. I think it's also kind of not pleasant job to take a

554
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:38,950
And it was the better answer to this question, so I'm going to direct them to the two of you.

555
00:44:39,150 --> 00:44:44,550
Tom, could you just go over real quickly the projects that C. dot has participated with

556
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:47,250
and partner in the past year or two?

557
00:44:47,650 --> 00:44:50,170
Sure, let Chris jump in here in the politics.

558
00:44:50,770 --> 00:44:54,250
And we have one, let's get ready to kick off.

559
00:44:55,130 --> 00:44:59,970
I'll be noticed in the next three, and that's the partner road north operational group.

560
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:19,000
And as we turn the naked out, there's a lot of technical or 70, and as we're at a just some operational improvements, some intersections between what we can, for some need to to agree with congestion, as well as by some sidewalks and some areas where we have some gas in sidewalks.

561
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:24,060
We, most of the projects that you've done, we use the personalized federal funding for

562
00:45:24,060 --> 00:45:28,760
that work the sea on is our own mobile and mobile type activities.

563
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:35,280
A lot of side walks, line of trails, intersection of movements, signal improvements,

564
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,560
go in.

565
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:43,360
The safer measures project, the more diverse side walk trail and shoulder roads.

566
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:44,620
Yep.

567
00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:45,420
That's it.

568
00:45:49,380 --> 00:46:12,860
And then, for you, maybe you were named specifically, you know, the most complaints, I love our 24th at the Serent Town. So you need to chat with a lot of people. And I was just chatting with a gentleman this morning in the pool area. And he was saying how dangerous, as John mentioned that corridor is from Fondorosa High School.

569
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:37,080
And I don't know what the accidents that look like on the end, but so you're talking about people coming out from Colorado Springs, right, on that, to England, so is there any ability in the future, even though it's not in the town of Parker that seems to be the issue with people coming from Elizabeth, which is building up.

570
00:46:38,740 --> 00:46:47,680
And so what can you tell us about any plans to improve or what in that stretch right there on because that's by 83.

571
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,840
Yeah, we don't have any specific plans right now for Highway 83.

572
00:46:52,000 --> 00:47:03,300
What I will say is that is a common challenge with a lot of our local agencies where I say the tooling road is having an identity crisis like Highway 93.

573
00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:10,740
Indiana out in Argada, that was County hasn't pulled them more, and they were never meant to be used the way they're being used.

574
00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:18,860
They were never meant to the volume of traffic. They were constructed 767 years ago as a two-lane rural road driving.

575
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:25,300
And the development has blossomed around it so much that a lot of the local agencies have not.

576
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,640
Whether it's, you know, the developer hasn't improved the road and the funding source have been set up to help you to

577
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,540
up with the development pressure that would say it's a common issue that we're seeing a lot of kind of

578
00:47:35,540 --> 00:47:43,600
those two-lane urban and healing roads that have now turned not so urban feeling. And I think it's going to

579
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:49,600
have to require a lot of partnering to get those kind of up to standard because if we're thinking,

580
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,520
you know, 20-30 years out, we want to have a cross session where you've got sidewalks and people

581
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,500
can actually walk along road to get to the Hays floor. Do you want to maintain that rural feeling?

582
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:05,020
So those are, those are different goals and I think they're really big conversations and happy to chat more about

583
00:48:05,020 --> 00:48:09,720
80 people right and we've invested a lot on the 80-3 operations study.

584
00:48:10,820 --> 00:48:12,620
And I think that's maybe finalized.

585
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:13,680
Is it my own?

586
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,320
Yeah, that's just dope.

587
00:48:15,580 --> 00:48:15,940
I don't know.

588
00:48:16,580 --> 00:48:17,680
Well, I think period is cool.

589
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,300
But I've heard that for a while.

590
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,060
So, well, in the safety study too.

591
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,680
So, I think there's opportunities to figure it out, but I think it's a partnership.

592
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:37,820
So there's a lot of grant opportunities where, you know, we can provide, you know, support and discuss, you know, how do we move something like that forward together and we'll look up like that.

593
00:48:37,820 --> 00:48:57,040
Yeah, I mean, because, you know, I actually have, I haven't sectioned on transportation on my website and I'm just reading my own website right now and looks like there's a significant investment coming on your ride the front range rail line, you know, in the future, which I'm sure that will be using

594
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,620
the entire state's tax dollars, correct?

595
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:00,880
Correct, I mean, passenger rail?

596
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:01,340
Yes.

597
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,780
So that will be on, I think we're going to be looking

598
00:49:04,780 --> 00:49:05,880
at maybe even about that.

599
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:08,940
About measure, to get that funded.

600
00:49:09,580 --> 00:49:12,080
But again, I think, you know, you compete with that.

601
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,600
Sure you'll have people ride that,

602
00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:15,600
but we also need the roads to be maintained.

603
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,280
So I mean, I would assume that the roads are always

604
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,180
going to be a priority.

605
00:49:21,060 --> 00:49:22,600
Just because you've got this,

606
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,140
this is like a competing priority as well

607
00:49:25,140 --> 00:49:30,680
with the real systems, the right, about range. Yes, the first passenger rails being led

608
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,650
from a different group at Fiat, we have a, I can see, the safe folks who run the bus,

609
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:41,340
the bus thing services, the office of the vision of transit and rail. So they're actually meeting

610
00:49:41,340 --> 00:49:50,980
the front-range passenger rail. My team is doing, that's a larger kind of plan, I can't

611
00:49:50,980 --> 00:49:53,280
That's well. Thank you very much for that.

612
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,760
Thank you.

613
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,020
Thank you.

614
00:49:58,740 --> 00:50:02,440
So yeah, I guess our focus is on the same three.

615
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,400
And, you know, it's John said I was the plunder kid back when they widened it.

616
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,220
And that's been a blinding sense and it wasn't a CDOT project that that's here say now.

617
00:50:11,540 --> 00:50:17,260
And any widening would not be a CDOT responsibility would truly be the developers that would be widened or.

618
00:50:17,580 --> 00:50:20,440
No, no, that's not what I definitely don't want to leave you with that.

619
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:33,980
I think in partnership, what does it look, what does the need, long-term, and what or, so does it need to be widened or does it need some other improvements or other amenities to make it more user friendly and improved safety.

620
00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:45,440
So I think it's kind of looking holistically at the larger core and then coming together to group joint effort of how do we, what do we need to do and then how do we come together to determine funding to that.

621
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,040
Okay, so going to the logical order,

622
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:54,500
proportionally, what is region one in the budget compared to the other regions?

623
00:50:55,340 --> 00:50:58,520
How much of the budget does region one for two, three, four?

624
00:50:59,780 --> 00:51:02,460
I mean, it depends on the part of money.

625
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:11,000
So, for the regional priority pool funds, I get 34.23%.

626
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,800
That distribution seems to hold your sum up the plot so money.

627
00:51:16,540 --> 00:51:22,580
But the ten years plan, I mean, it was kind of a different allocation of dollars based on need across the region.

628
00:51:22,780 --> 00:51:30,760
So like, I, for example, I didn't get any rural research at the same time, I technically don't have rural roads that are actually classified as rural.

629
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:31,980
And they feel that way.

630
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:38,800
But the other regions got rural funds, and I got some more and some other dollars for bridge and some other things that I have actually more of.

631
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:48,480
So I can't tell you off the top of my head of all the money that comes in of our $1.3 billion budget, but I get $2.5%. I don't know that.

632
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:56,520
Does it, is it be safe to say that the 80, or 86, 83 back to compete with 70 and the tunnel provides?

633
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:04,620
No, because I got our 10 year plan. I have us as Boulevard in Congress City, and that wouldn't play to construction soon.

634
00:52:04,620 --> 00:52:10,600
So it just depends on the priorities and readiness as a really big issue.

635
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,660
So I think you've been able to prioritize some intersections along 83 because we've had that safety study.

636
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,700
And they enable the pinpoint.

637
00:52:17,420 --> 00:52:18,560
They're safety dollars available.

638
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:21,840
This intersection is ready to go. Let's get this one in for the lift.

639
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:23,180
Yeah.

640
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,020
Okay.

641
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:28,900
When we do a project, let's say it's our lane changes or we need to add a signal.

642
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:29,900
Does that project?

643
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,100
Look at the same processes and punishments funded by the CIDA. There's always a little bit of time that

644
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:41,980
always takes a little bit of time to work with CIDA. And if we frustrate at this level when we're ready to go

645
00:52:41,980 --> 00:52:47,980
and we're ready to like this intersection. We're ready to pay this lay and we're ready to restrain them and add more flow through

646
00:52:47,980 --> 00:52:56,760
But it is really a fatality, you know, intersection of unit lit and sometimes there's a hindrance there or there's a little bit of a slow down.

647
00:52:57,260 --> 00:53:03,860
Is there a separate process when it's fully funded by a town or by an entity versus when it's a doctor partner at the table.

648
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,060
So if you're bringing 100% local funding, that's what you're saying.

649
00:53:08,340 --> 00:53:09,520
Honestly dot highway.

650
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,240
I think it would be, yeah, it should be a similar process.

651
00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:23,240
It's just going to be meeting with our health.

652
00:53:23,420 --> 00:53:24,740
I mean, your experience has been different.

653
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,740
You're smiling, sir.

654
00:53:26,260 --> 00:53:28,260
Thank you.

655
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,060
I think it did events, you know.

656
00:53:32,060 --> 00:53:33,780
The things that we're in the funding is coming from.

657
00:53:33,980 --> 00:53:34,900
You really need to do that.

658
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,240
For example, we're in our very short movement project.

659
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,100
That was one of the project leaders,

660
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:42,980
And we can see what we have to do with this.

661
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,220
Some of the largest processes, you know,

662
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,040
the seed up was that we didn't want to come in.

663
00:53:49,140 --> 00:53:50,960
We do have some projects to kind of stuff.

664
00:53:51,180 --> 00:53:52,020
If you practice sometimes,

665
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,600
and it's just the project that we're telling,

666
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,540
and sometimes we get their knowledge of management,

667
00:53:58,740 --> 00:53:59,780
besides my seed up.

668
00:53:59,800 --> 00:53:59,900
Yeah.

669
00:54:00,420 --> 00:54:03,600
And there's still a little turnover that seed up

670
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,040
that I'm finding a management of.

671
00:54:05,820 --> 00:54:07,620
So sometimes things get lost,

672
00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:08,840
the application gets lost.

673
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,910
And so things have gotten better, I think recently, but that's something that's a struggle with.

674
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,640
I'd say continue to my own.

675
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,020
Yeah, and I'd encourage you to establish a good relationship with the program engineer.

676
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,860
I don't know if you've met Stephanie.

677
00:54:24,860 --> 00:54:26,280
And before that, I was carried a job model.

678
00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:28,000
But.

679
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:28,980
You're.

680
00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:32,620
Yeah, they oversee the team.

681
00:54:32,860 --> 00:54:36,140
So knowing the program engineer, they oversee kind of those project managers.

682
00:54:36,140 --> 00:54:40,200
in deciding regular meetings and plans probably helpful attention please are staying on

683
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:40,980
track.

684
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:44,440
Yeah.

685
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,260
We're getting interviews this week.

686
00:54:49,940 --> 00:54:51,380
Thank you.

687
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,300
Thank you.

688
00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:57,040
Unfortunately, gas tax actually was the only Tom.

689
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:03,180
I was at a meeting with Senator Bennett and asked staff and council for questions in Tom's question.

690
00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:04,600
was, that's fantastic.

691
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,520
Guess this has not been addressed since,

692
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,860
most of the carries days, and what are we doing

693
00:55:10,860 --> 00:55:12,840
with that, and his answer was very political,

694
00:55:13,020 --> 00:55:16,460
you don't know, and I introduced, you know,

695
00:55:16,620 --> 00:55:19,900
the EV abundance and told them how many EVs

696
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:23,260
we have down here and how it's a way that they're on our roads

697
00:55:23,260 --> 00:55:27,920
and has no one lived in as far as getting more $5,000

698
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,000
from EVs in the least to cast access or with a guest access.

699
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,320
is to want to avoid the question.

700
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,080
So that was to be out of here.

701
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,740
Rent metering in the third lane

702
00:55:37,740 --> 00:55:39,040
or use in the shoulder.

703
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:41,520
How successful are confusing with that?

704
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:42,740
Is that part of the future study?

705
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:46,640
I think that's a good question.

706
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,460
We heard both.

707
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,020
I compare it to roundabout.

708
00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:52,580
So we all freaked out and roundabouts came out

709
00:55:52,580 --> 00:55:54,440
and we'll hopefully count as you navigate them,

710
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:55,740
the end of the world is happening.

711
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,300
You've been going in circles, having you cross the country,

712
00:55:58,620 --> 00:55:59,740
and never all comfortable.

713
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,400
We can feel better about that, right?

714
00:56:01,940 --> 00:56:03,680
We didn't quite get through the pilot bar

715
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,520
I don't think to hit the comfortable button with the third lane

716
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,740
rat metering, I think there's a lot of train that needs to go in.

717
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,140
We actually had pilot cars that would just drive and park and guide people

718
00:56:14,140 --> 00:56:15,760
like, look at me, I'm in this third lane.

719
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:19,040
You can be here too, and then they would drive up and go around and come back.

720
00:56:19,220 --> 00:56:20,280
Look at me here, I am.

721
00:56:20,740 --> 00:56:26,160
So I'm probably say we didn't get to the part where we were super comfortable,

722
00:56:26,460 --> 00:56:27,520
but we want to get there.

723
00:56:27,980 --> 00:56:31,000
I saw even the troopers were doing Instagrams on it.

724
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,340
Yes. Yes. Yes. So there's a quote when we do things in transportation, even with DEI's emerging

725
00:56:36,340 --> 00:56:42,600
dynamic interchanges that are likely to go on off the direction. It takes, yes, it takes training

726
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:48,640
for a couple of, and we just have to be patient and persistent on helping them navigate.

727
00:56:49,140 --> 00:56:54,900
I will say, and I'm going to ask a little bit of a phrase, and I look to a market is an improvement. Yes.

728
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,360
Yes. But they were totally frightened initially. Yeah. But I'm on the right side of the

729
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,460
I don't like to get off the grid of the gas to the wood jail.

730
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,440
Now we'll pass the grid of the gas and you can spill it.

731
00:57:03,860 --> 00:57:04,220
Yes.

732
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:04,940
Yeah.

733
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,320
So thank you.

734
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,160
Fill some of our advantage.

735
00:57:10,700 --> 00:57:11,140
Yeah.

736
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,800
I'm still trying to figure out the round of the house.

737
00:57:15,820 --> 00:57:16,940
I'm holding my breath.

738
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:17,460
Very good.

739
00:57:20,260 --> 00:57:20,700
See.

740
00:57:21,140 --> 00:57:21,880
I have a while.

741
00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:24,480
I'm going to go down but just in the.

742
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,800
Just for time.

743
00:57:26,460 --> 00:57:39,220
So comments, I appreciate the four to five minutes thinking of all of us in Parker, too, because it is to take us four to five minutes to get to any destination in Parker.

744
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,300
And now we're looking at 10 to 15.

745
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,560
So I think that is significant.

746
00:57:47,180 --> 00:57:57,360
I was curious about the wildlife overpassing, so I mean, obviously you do make extensive studies on where to put those.

747
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:02,000
Do they usually just follow like a natural migration trail or.

748
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:13,120
Yeah, so we already have some existing underpasses that were built as part of the gap and we're seeing a lot of success with bears and all types of other mammals that are using those crossings under the highway.

749
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:18,900
We have a lot of wildlife fencing along the highway, so it helps kind of channel them to the crossing.

750
00:58:18,980 --> 00:58:23,040
If you don't have fencing they don't work, but the animals they don't know, they're going to be signs.

751
00:58:24,540 --> 00:58:34,160
So the fencing channels them to the crossing, and then the crossings are really constructed based on migration routes and patterns that are biologists and what's effort and time.

752
00:58:34,820 --> 00:58:41,780
So the location of that one was very specific, and then we'll also look at kind of land development and these minutes around it.

753
00:58:41,780 --> 00:58:46,860
I don't want to put a while in my crossing where you're going to pop a development and like that defeats the purpose.

754
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:49,980
So there's conservation easements on both sides of that crossing.

755
00:58:52,940 --> 00:58:53,120
All right.

756
00:58:54,260 --> 00:58:55,500
Thank you for your presentation.

757
00:58:56,620 --> 00:58:57,040
It's 100.

758
00:58:57,860 --> 00:58:59,180
Oh, my father's in coverage.

759
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:00,400
Thank you.

760
00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:01,360
Thank you.

761
00:59:01,380 --> 00:59:01,760
Thank you.

762
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:02,320
Thanks for attending.

763
00:59:02,540 --> 00:59:03,060
We appreciate it.

764
00:59:03,620 --> 00:59:05,080
Thank you for having us.

765
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:05,380
All right.

766
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,680
You've got the great work.

767
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:08,500
Thank you.

768
00:59:09,380 --> 00:59:09,660
All right.

769
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,480
The guys will know ties on tonight.

770
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,940
Oh, I don't know.

771
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:15,620
Oh, I don't know.

772
00:59:15,620 --> 00:59:16,940
Oh, I don't know.

773
00:59:18,380 --> 00:59:18,680
Yeah.

774
00:59:18,980 --> 00:59:20,060
At least, but that's all.

775
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:20,880
I don't know.

776
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,580
It seems to be.

777
00:59:35,620 --> 00:59:36,240
I don't know.

778
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:36,900
I

779
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,280
don't know.

780
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:43,660
All right.

781
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:44,740
Well, good evening.

782
00:59:45,020 --> 00:59:45,580
Mayor Council.

783
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,120
So there's a few things to keep me up at night.

784
00:59:49,260 --> 00:59:50,980
Besides my teenage daughters.

785
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:53,080
Can't match.

786
00:59:53,260 --> 00:59:53,980
Is that their car?

787
00:59:53,980 --> 00:59:59,900
I thought she only knows, but that's really, probably seem to it.

788
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,720
I'm excited. You know, every time I get a PD report million emails from the PD report say, and I see a traffic accident, I just I sport because I I'm curious if there's something that we could have done better or there is an improvement that we could have made to perhaps have prevented that accident and in the past we would typically reply on rely on reports that we get from the police department that maybe they say,

789
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:35,480
is intersection, we've had a history of crashes here, and then, you know, Dave and his team will

790
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:40,720
obtain the accident reports from the police departments, which can be an argues task,

791
01:00:40,860 --> 01:00:46,780
and we do an analysis on it, see if there's a trend, and then we dive in to see if there's any

792
01:00:46,780 --> 01:00:50,720
engineering solutions that might improve safety at that particular intersection.

793
01:00:54,980 --> 01:00:58,700
You know, we've

794
01:00:58,700 --> 01:01:04,480
traffic safety. But I'm happy to say that we have a new tool in our toolbox and our traffic

795
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:11,720
toolbox, helpful for the budget last year, which included the purchase of a new accidents

796
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:17,520
and else software, which we purchased last year and we implemented and we started using.

797
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:24,060
And this tool is really going to allow us to be more proactive and not weeks.

798
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:30,020
And so the accents occur, we can actually dive in and look to see where are the accents.

799
01:01:30,020 --> 01:01:35,740
Kind of accents are they. And beige is kind of our guru on this software.

800
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:45,100
And as already kind of started looking at intersections and how it can be utilized by the town and our staff

801
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:51,440
to really improve safety for the down normal Americans. So,

802
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,860
is going to talk to you about some of the background and how we're using.

803
01:01:54,560 --> 01:02:00,440
Yeah, so you ask the question, no, that's not Tom's daughter. That's an ex-cavenant

804
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:06,340
from outside town hall here at Mayton Pine. I enjoyed putting that back up in the snow

805
01:02:06,340 --> 01:02:07,540
in a lightable day.

806
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,920
So the system that we've started using is a commercial program called

807
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:43,520
access, stand for diagnostic expert systems. Yes, but not DID, the end, diagnostic. And the program is called vision zero sweet. Vision zero is is an often use, you know, thought that we're trying to get to zero access. That would be the ideal in in our world that, you know, we wouldn't have to analyze access because everybody's behaving themselves. Well,

808
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:50,260
Unfortunately, that is not the case and we have to go through this but looking at a number of

809
01:02:50,260 --> 01:02:57,280
systems, we pre-selected a handful of systems reviewed them, brought two-in for personal interviews

810
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:04,160
and these diacces of base data castle rock, the people that founded it, cut their teeth that

811
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:20,280
developed the system of C.U.S. statewide for accident analysis, hugely successful, statistical approach to analyzing what goes on in our world.

812
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:31,080
So, it's, I shamelessly stole their tagline. You think science and engineering to make life savings road safety decisions?

813
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:35,940
I couldn't have set it better, so I stole it since we're paying them. I didn't feel too bad.

814
01:03:37,540 --> 01:03:41,580
But really, the system is designed to look at trends over time.

815
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,340
We know that there's going to be certain accidents.

816
01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:48,500
How many accidents? How bad is too bad?

817
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,500
Accidents are really a visceral reaction.

818
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,880
They're scary. They're uncomfortable for people that have had them.

819
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,960
But in one accident, the end of the world,

820
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:06,620
of those people, absolutely could be. Um, as a whole to the community, that's how we have to kind of

821
01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:12,540
step in and use a data driven approach to look at the long-term average as versus that single accident.

822
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:18,800
The highest number of accidents doesn't necessarily mean it's the most dangerous location in

823
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:23,440
town. We have to look at types. We have to look at, you know, conditions of the roadway,

824
01:04:23,460 --> 01:04:29,300
what contributed to it. Just because Walmart, it was in the top five of accidents,

825
01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:35,300
doesn't mean that parking lot needs to be whole it will make it best. But that doesn't make

826
01:04:35,300 --> 01:04:38,360
it the most unsafe place in town just because of Noms.

827
01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:43,460
So I may need your help pressing the

828
01:04:43,460 --> 01:04:53,280
play button on this. This was recorded from one of our vehicle dash cams. This is like in a 20 mile

829
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,240
you're facing south right now.

830
01:04:55,380 --> 01:04:59,720
The road, it's hard to see, but the East West has turned red.

831
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,200
Southbound left is on, and that's why that was my neighborhood.

832
01:05:05,140 --> 01:05:06,840
It's, oh, they got hit, oh, they're hit.

833
01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:10,460
So, yeah, we can play that again.

834
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,120
No matter why the fact, but it happens that quick.

835
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,380
And I wanted to bring this up,

836
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,420
that this is from one of our trucks.

837
01:05:18,460 --> 01:05:19,800
Yes, recording this.

838
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,940
As far as I know, it was not an injury accident,

839
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,900
But you all have driven through this center section countless times.

840
01:05:28,020 --> 01:05:32,200
You've made the left turn on the green arrow and the green ball.

841
01:05:32,220 --> 01:05:33,000
It said, yeah, it's safe.

842
01:05:33,220 --> 01:05:34,520
It's clear, nobody's coming.

843
01:05:34,940 --> 01:05:37,540
Well, this one happened to be someone that ran the red light.

844
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:38,500
And it can happen.

845
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:39,560
Oh, that happened.

846
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:39,960
I have that wondering.

847
01:05:40,580 --> 01:05:41,020
He ran the red light.

848
01:05:41,020 --> 01:05:43,420
That's what I was wondering, like, how did that happen?

849
01:05:43,860 --> 01:05:45,400
He ran, of course, running the red light.

850
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:51,360
But we have to look and say, there was a car upside down at Lincoln in 20 miles.

851
01:05:51,380 --> 01:05:52,520
What are you going to do about it?

852
01:05:52,520 --> 01:06:15,920
Well, the car upside down because of something that we did as an apartment is something that's a road design issue, is it driver behavior, and then we have to look deeper and say what can we do to mitigate these risks to the public before it, we say happens again, we're trying to have that approach to balance mobility and safety.

853
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:24,080
But without data, we're flying blind and that's really what this tool does is brings the data piece of it in.

854
01:06:27,110 --> 01:06:30,210
So this is the phase that's good question though.

855
01:06:30,290 --> 01:06:30,470
Yeah, of course.

856
01:06:30,590 --> 01:06:31,590
What did you learn from it?

857
01:06:31,890 --> 01:06:33,230
Sorry as long as we're on this subject.

858
01:06:33,230 --> 01:06:35,590
Yeah, don't you learn from the data piece on that.

859
01:06:35,810 --> 01:06:44,190
So that particular act that we've we're still looking at some we've got some unique characteristics of the center section.

860
01:06:44,190 --> 01:06:49,050
Um, without getting too far down into the weeds, we've, we've, we have different categories

861
01:06:49,050 --> 01:06:55,450
of accident, you know, Iran's, for example, um, uh, approach to turn accident is when someone

862
01:06:55,450 --> 01:07:00,190
comes up to the green wall, makes the left turn, front of somebody and gets deep on it.

863
01:07:00,510 --> 01:07:04,970
Now, we also have what we call broadside accidents, which this was where somebody actually

864
01:07:05,630 --> 01:07:10,690
ran straight through the intersection. It wasn't an approach turn. Nobody was trying to, you know,

865
01:07:10,690 --> 01:07:17,210
nobody made a mistake of misjudging distance. And so our percentage is that this particular

866
01:07:17,210 --> 01:07:23,630
intersection, we have a really high fraud sign problem. When I first looked at it, I said,

867
01:07:23,790 --> 01:07:29,970
is a fraud sign? No, we have a pro-stern problem. Are we mispassifying it? And as soon as I saw that, I said,

868
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:46,060
No, we have a broad side problem. Somebody's, we have more than our share of people running the red there and I don't know why. But being able to break it down in, in very short order with this tool helps us help us look at that.

869
01:07:46,220 --> 01:07:52,760
Thank you. Of course. So, for our purposes, this is the start of everything. The Colorado State accident report.

870
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:58,860
At any time there's an accident in a park or this gets filled out by one of Jim's officers.

871
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,240
She's, you know, probably you had to do how many thousand of these before you worked your way up to,

872
01:08:04,580 --> 01:08:05,640
where you didn't have to see them?

873
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,320
Yeah, it wasn't filled about the form.

874
01:08:07,580 --> 01:08:09,280
It was actually a real mid-Roying.

875
01:08:11,700 --> 01:08:15,740
But this information, so it all gets reported.

876
01:08:16,300 --> 01:08:21,480
All kinds of data in terms of what time of day it was, what direction they were going,

877
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:27,380
what types of injuries happen, what the vehicles were. You know, I don't care that it, you know,

878
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:32,960
I care that it's an 18 year old versus an 85 year old. I care if they were, you know, drinking and driving,

879
01:08:33,060 --> 01:08:38,800
I care if it was snowy, sunny, dark, all of these, all of these things figure into it here.

880
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:46,960
But then it kind of goes into this black hole. All of these reports go to the department of revenue

881
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:54,560
of all places. They don't go directly to see that. They don't go to any place, but it goes to the Department of Revenue.

882
01:08:55,440 --> 01:09:00,720
And then from the Department of Revenue, they do some initial cleaning, and then it gets to see that.

883
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:11,820
Well, our system does, you know, before this system, you had to kind of get every copy of every accident, report,

884
01:09:11,820 --> 01:09:14,820
either from RPD or from the Department of Revenue,

885
01:09:15,180 --> 01:09:19,800
comb it down, you know, 1,500 accidents in a year

886
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:20,820
that takes some time.

887
01:09:20,900 --> 01:09:22,500
And that's what Douglas County does.

888
01:09:22,780 --> 01:09:24,800
They actually take every accident report,

889
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,540
put it in a database and they model it.

890
01:09:28,540 --> 01:09:31,880
What our system does is a little bit different

891
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,420
in we're taking those records directly

892
01:09:34,420 --> 01:09:35,600
from the Department of Revenue.

893
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,680
Now, and so we have that access to the town

894
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,460
and as a whole, at our fingertips at any given time.

895
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,380
So, next question, I guess,

896
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,140
most often we get the common question is,

897
01:09:49,140 --> 01:09:50,620
is this intersection six?

898
01:09:51,180 --> 01:09:53,060
Well, I saw an accident there, does that make it unsafe?

899
01:09:53,380 --> 01:09:55,820
Is it, you know, we have to start looking

900
01:09:55,820 --> 01:09:57,920
at the how often, how severe,

901
01:09:59,660 --> 01:10:01,560
and then we have, you know,

902
01:10:04,620 --> 01:10:08,180
trying to balance the angel questionable ability and safety,

903
01:10:09,020 --> 01:10:11,380
you know, heavy handed government,

904
01:10:11,380 --> 01:10:17,260
You probably all heard the Denver is considering eliminating right turns on rent and it's just

905
01:10:17,260 --> 01:10:19,360
Period no more right turns on rent for anybody

906
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,860
Okay, maybe that's there places where that's appropriate. Maybe there places where that's not appropriate

907
01:10:24,860 --> 01:10:32,580
So we as a department have to kind of look at that and in the context of the town at large and say how see the same

908
01:10:35,420 --> 01:10:35,900
No

909
01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:38,320
Now we break this down a little bit further

910
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:44,180
access to the type, graphic volumes, roadway type, all figured in. Again, one of our

911
01:10:44,180 --> 01:10:47,480
parking lot, just because the type of high accident account doesn't necessarily

912
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:53,160
make it the place we want to focus our time. We're looking at the longer term

913
01:10:53,160 --> 01:11:00,000
averages. So what we'll go back to high school statistics class briefly here,

914
01:11:01,740 --> 01:11:04,600
the people that run this program came up with something called the safety

915
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:09,640
performance function. This is to answer that question of how safe is safe. How does

916
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:18,140
compare against everything else that we're looking at in the wider world. So we start with all of the

917
01:11:18,140 --> 01:11:24,260
accidents in the state. Every single accident, every type, every configuration gets fed into the

918
01:11:24,260 --> 01:11:28,560
safety performance function. And then you narrow it down and start looking at, is this a

919
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:33,340
formate facility? Is this a two-layed facility? Was it a singleized intersection? Was it on signalized

920
01:11:33,340 --> 01:11:39,280
intersection? We take those accidents and we can break them down into four different segments.

921
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,880
We call it level as safety of service.

922
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,760
Level safety of service one indicates a low potential

923
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:46,760
for cross reduction.

924
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:50,160
You're probably doing, if you're in this section,

925
01:11:50,300 --> 01:11:52,300
when you plot all of your information,

926
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,440
you're probably doing pretty good

927
01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:56,100
compared to statewide anarchists.

928
01:11:57,860 --> 01:11:59,840
Level service is safety two.

929
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,960
You might get some improvement in safety

930
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,080
with some modifications,

931
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,200
but you're not going to make a massive change

932
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:15,220
in the system as you get in the level of service of safety three, that's where I start to

933
01:12:15,220 --> 01:12:20,880
lose sleep along with Tom because we probably have some places where we can really make a difference

934
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:28,900
to the average daily driver here and then level of service of safety four, high potential for

935
01:12:28,900 --> 01:12:37,200
crash reduction. These are ones that we should be catching right now and making adjustments.

936
01:12:40,220 --> 01:12:44,400
So maybe it's some examples, we've started in on the town.

937
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:49,920
As a whole, we started with Parker wrote Patrick Burke from the engineering department.

938
01:12:50,300 --> 01:12:54,300
As done a first cut of these, and I have looked into a bunch of them as well.

939
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:56,080
We're going to start with Parker and Whitman.

940
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:05,240
This is, again, across the bottom, we say, this is our average volume on the facility we're looking at.

941
01:13:05,260 --> 01:13:08,700
We're looking at a signalized intersection and we're looking at a six lane facility.

942
01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:14,460
So, those kind of things instantly narrowed and narrowed down, so we're comparing apples to apples.

943
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:23,460
And we see, oh, our accident trend here, 6.44 and that's precious pre-year, what we observed,

944
01:13:24,140 --> 01:13:30,080
a comparable facility in Colorado to get, we're not comparing Colorado to Texas or to Florida.

945
01:13:30,660 --> 01:13:33,300
This is within the state as a whole.

946
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:38,580
we would have expected this in 13.21. So on this one, you started to say,

947
01:13:38,660 --> 01:13:44,980
yeah, we're feeling feeling pretty good here. So this is total accidents property damage only

948
01:13:44,980 --> 01:13:50,260
that picks in, gets in here, and then we look at severity and say, you know, are we having

949
01:13:50,260 --> 01:13:56,620
serious injury accidents? Even if our total accidents were low, severity can certainly figure in.

950
01:13:56,620 --> 01:14:04,060
So again, here we will expect a certain number of severe crashes, and we're below that.

951
01:14:04,300 --> 01:14:09,760
So we're feeling pretty good at this particular location. This is just the kind of

952
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:16,600
review of reference for those level service safety curves. Finally, in 20 miles. Okay,

953
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:22,720
while we started to sneak up here a little bit higher, we're not in that level service safety one.

954
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,040
we're in level of service of safety too.

955
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,440
We're still below numerically what we would expect,

956
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,620
but this is where I start to go.

957
01:14:30,860 --> 01:14:32,440
Let's see what else we can do.

958
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:36,740
Our severity is still low, so I'm happy with that,

959
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:38,320
but we run into the tool.

960
01:14:38,340 --> 01:14:41,180
The tool does these really neat things for us,

961
01:14:41,460 --> 01:14:44,720
it'll take the diagnostics in a particular intersection.

962
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,000
And we can say, what is causing our accident?

963
01:14:48,060 --> 01:14:50,420
It's here based off that Department of Revenue record

964
01:14:50,420 --> 01:14:51,560
that we looked at earlier.

965
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:56,200
a full 50% of this intersection's crashes were approached.

966
01:14:58,340 --> 01:14:59,980
We would have expected seven.

967
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,700
1% based off statewide averages. So, right there, I'd look at that and say, that is something that we can do some mitigation on in very short order. And by the end of the month, we're going to have East and West converted to rent arrows protected only operation. That particular intersection, we're going to get the question. You're doing it because of in an operator. No, we're doing it because of history, the fourth in an

968
01:15:29,700 --> 01:15:35,040
burger gear and we're going to hopefully not continue to contribute with it and our burger

969
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,700
does fire online. But that's a little bit of a goofy intersection. You've got to double out

970
01:15:39,700 --> 01:15:44,920
to posting a single most times it's clear with you driving through there at 9 o'clock at night.

971
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:50,880
You're going to be like, oh, I just don't. It's great. It's why it open. We're seeing some history,

972
01:15:50,980 --> 01:15:56,920
some trends that don't support that, but that also, is this East West,

973
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,540
and finally not nor sell. Correct. Correct.

974
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:03,820
Because we're already waiting at the coordinated phases,

975
01:16:03,940 --> 01:16:06,440
he swes their final and 20-mile.

976
01:16:06,940 --> 01:16:08,480
That's where it rests in that green,

977
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,780
and that's what we're trying to take away the risk factor.

978
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,880
People misjudging, I think they're misjudging

979
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,320
how fast people are coming eastbound, and they're in that double,

980
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,920
and they're trying to sneak in to the,

981
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,060
and they're not speaking fast enough.

982
01:16:24,060 --> 01:16:44,900
So, this is, but again, if you look at that first graph, you say, oh, for not doing too bad, but we can pinpoint a specific outcome with this tool that we really couldn't before without combing, you know, this happens to be from the start of 2018 to the end of 2022.

983
01:16:45,740 --> 01:16:51,280
our system lags a little bit again because it's coming from the Department of Revenue. We won't

984
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:57,840
see 2023's numbers until the probably the second half of this year, but we're looking at long-term

985
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:04,120
trends over five years to see a 50% of my crashes can be addressed by a single change.

986
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,820
I think that's

987
01:17:11,820 --> 01:17:21,480
by PD. Yeah, right there. Maybe that's like the worst ever. So that's to do that all the time.

988
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:23,540
That is not the-

989
01:17:23,540 --> 01:17:26,580
No, no, no, no. So I think that's the intersection between there.

990
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:31,160
You know, so our crash is for you. 5.9. If we look just as you can hear it,

991
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:39,020
well, if you have higher up here, it would, you know, we're like 6.4 or 4, so we have more crashes.

992
01:17:39,020 --> 01:17:40,760
So that's more dangerous, right?

993
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:44,300
Well, know what we expect statistically,

994
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,500
we start looking here, we're just because the numbers,

995
01:17:48,740 --> 01:17:51,340
but it won't this facility should be able to do.

996
01:17:51,860 --> 01:17:55,880
And we say this is well outside the moral comfort zone

997
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,560
of what we want to see on our intersections.

998
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:00,720
So Verity was also a bit of this particular location.

999
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,960
The outcome, Council graciously agreed to find the signal at this point.

1000
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,580
You're good, not that I needed any more because of my space therapy.

1001
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:13,820
We're actually in design right now.

1002
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:15,740
The mitigation for this is the traffic.

1003
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:16,520
That's wonderful.

1004
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,900
But this is the type, I used this kind of step through example

1005
01:18:20,900 --> 01:18:23,660
because I wanted to understand how we're using the tools

1006
01:18:23,660 --> 01:18:26,320
to find these types of applications.

1007
01:18:28,540 --> 01:18:30,960
When we looked back at the diagnostics,

1008
01:18:32,270 --> 01:18:39,550
That's why we're in, as far as a nine, almost 92% of your accidents were broadside.

1009
01:18:40,010 --> 01:18:40,890
Not a proch turn.

1010
01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:44,110
Not people turning left in front of people on Grant's stuff.

1011
01:18:44,290 --> 01:18:48,330
This was purely people crossing Grant's stuff getting in.

1012
01:18:49,230 --> 01:18:53,030
So, that tells us we have something that we can find and we can fix.

1013
01:18:54,910 --> 01:18:59,210
So, looking a little wider, this is from C.D.

1014
01:18:59,210 --> 01:19:07,790
When they're looking at some of their accident location, we talked a little bit about the stretch south of the Frank town where we've got level of service of safety for

1015
01:19:08,390 --> 01:19:20,550
Fortunately, none of 83 in our particular jurisdiction as level of service of safety for the red dot just out of the training on that map. I know it's hard to see that is by built for the 83.

1016
01:19:21,870 --> 01:19:28,930
So, they're aware of this, but I wanted you to kind of kind of see the bigger picture of what

1017
01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:36,710
Seetot sees. We're doing, we haven't risen for that level on their facility yet, which is good.

1018
01:19:38,110 --> 01:19:44,010
So, one of the other neat things that our tool can do is network screening. I'm going to ask you to

1019
01:19:44,010 --> 01:19:47,090
guess what all of those axonet dots represent.

1020
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,240
You can hear the jeopardy music in the background

1021
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,400
that I didn't put it in slide shot.

1022
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:55,100
This is 500.

1023
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,020
This is 592 Carvers of beer access.

1024
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:00,960
Oh, oh.

1025
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,440
Well, I think I was going to do that.

1026
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,740
So now granted, we took this one back to 2007.

1027
01:20:06,180 --> 01:20:09,180
So this is the backwards limit of our data.

1028
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:15,100
But you can see there is no 83 is probably our highest.

1029
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:18,960
I get calls, it's like, you need to come out and put a deer sign

1030
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,020
on my cul-de-sac.

1031
01:20:20,020 --> 01:20:31,680
As I saw one dear, let's maybe think about where the highest concentration of accidents are and let's look at what we can do in those locations.

1032
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:38,800
So Main Street, a lot of people come from the wooded area of the north, they're headed down to the Gulf.

1033
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:45,140
Look at 83, the number of crossings of 83 with animal accident.

1034
01:20:45,700 --> 01:20:47,580
So we need an animal crossing bridge.

1035
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:48,180
Oh, apparently.

1036
01:20:49,860 --> 01:20:52,620
Finding the right spot, but now we've got sulfur gulps.

1037
01:20:52,780 --> 01:20:54,380
We've got some underpasses, which are good.

1038
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:01,200
But there are deer, literally on every road in Parker.

1039
01:21:02,060 --> 01:21:05,140
We joke sometimes that we just need to put up a big still for

1040
01:21:05,140 --> 01:21:06,820
his right or his barks a lot from deer.

1041
01:21:07,580 --> 01:21:08,620
They're everywhere.

1042
01:21:11,780 --> 01:21:12,200
So.

1043
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:12,400
Beautiful.

1044
01:21:15,020 --> 01:21:26,160
So some other things that the tool does for us, we can do for an after studies, primarily to see if the mitigation tool that we chose was the right tool.

1045
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:36,440
Are we actually seeing the tool predicts we can play the way of game a little bit and we can predict what our drop in accidents is going to be with any given tool.

1046
01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:39,940
that we wanted to shake partner and part plan to around about.

1047
01:21:40,060 --> 01:21:41,780
We could see what the actions would have been.

1048
01:21:41,820 --> 01:21:44,860
What a signal, what we would expect the accidents to be.

1049
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,540
Our red arrows at 20 mile in time that are upcoming.

1050
01:21:49,140 --> 01:21:50,900
We can say, we predict that accidents

1051
01:21:50,900 --> 01:21:53,760
that this intersection should go from here to here.

1052
01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:56,280
Let me compare those over time to see if we're

1053
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:57,520
making the right decisions.

1054
01:22:00,100 --> 01:22:03,480
Or if there's other things that we want to look at,

1055
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,860
economic analysis also plays into that.

1056
01:22:05,860 --> 01:22:12,680
Part of our free capital, we could put up a, you know, $700,000, $800,000 traffic signal.

1057
01:22:13,380 --> 01:22:18,480
You could blow the whole thing up and put in a $4 million roundabout, but with your safety,

1058
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,880
you'd be different, comparable.

1059
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:27,980
So we can play some of those economic analysis and before after ideas to, with this tool,

1060
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:29,960
and base it off some actual statistics.

1061
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,900
You know, statewide, statewide data.

1062
01:22:36,730 --> 01:22:41,010
I think that's most of what I wanted to, what did to hit at a high point.

1063
01:22:42,530 --> 01:22:46,710
And I leave it to your questions now is to, to where we go with this to.

1064
01:22:47,310 --> 01:22:54,430
It's new to us. We're still learning the limits of it. We've been through training. We're using it identifying problems.

1065
01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:58,950
But I think there's, there's still more that we can do it in the years.

1066
01:23:02,390 --> 01:23:07,550
And finally, thank you here as I'm doing and letting us back into the very fascinating and curious.

1067
01:23:08,190 --> 01:23:10,790
I'm going to create our help to you guys going forward.

1068
01:23:11,230 --> 01:23:13,050
It's a very cool stuff. Yeah.

1069
01:23:13,130 --> 01:23:13,810
We want to see patterns.

1070
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:14,510
You didn't know anything.

1071
01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:15,850
That's a good year.

1072
01:23:16,150 --> 01:23:21,910
That's the whole thing is we want to find those system-wide things that we didn't even know the look for.

1073
01:23:23,090 --> 01:23:27,330
You know, you can hear anecdotally this particular place was dangerous.

1074
01:23:27,330 --> 01:23:39,270
someone around off the road here, but there's a whole using using some data to find those in a, you know, you know, you know, a better system is what we're after.

1075
01:23:40,270 --> 01:23:48,590
And, and comparatively for the price, you couldn't have a person do this type of work, you know, and have it be cost effective.

1076
01:23:52,130 --> 01:23:55,850
Those are just the dear accidents that we're going to call it.

1077
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:56,170
Correct.

1078
01:23:56,930 --> 01:23:58,650
That's a good sense of 2020.

1079
01:23:59,390 --> 01:24:00,210
Yes, 2020.

1080
01:24:01,130 --> 01:24:02,350
Do you want more of that?

1081
01:24:04,130 --> 01:24:07,690
So is the way that it is now.

1082
01:24:08,250 --> 01:24:12,790
It has to go to the internal revenue.

1083
01:24:13,050 --> 01:24:15,430
Yeah, Department of the Revenue is all of so.

1084
01:24:15,430 --> 01:24:16,270
Sorry, it's taxing.

1085
01:24:19,390 --> 01:24:25,570
But is there a way to like simultaneously get that to you?

1086
01:24:25,810 --> 01:24:27,410
So we actually are doing that.

1087
01:24:27,650 --> 01:24:32,090
So right now, the police department, when she's records department,

1088
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:34,730
send bundles up these records, prints them out,

1089
01:24:34,890 --> 01:24:37,830
we get a hard copy of those at our shop.

1090
01:24:38,210 --> 01:24:41,510
So this data that we have through the end of 2022

1091
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:44,630
is what we can use in this tool is the database

1092
01:24:44,630 --> 01:24:51,970
to search. Now we have a specific location that looks weird. We're getting that raw data in real

1093
01:24:51,970 --> 01:24:58,490
time. And we're keeping that in our record system, the V-hides system. So we can look at specific

1094
01:24:58,490 --> 01:25:06,390
intersections. If this tool says 20 mile and 500 is a problem, we can look, you know, we can follow

1095
01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:11,490
that trend. But if we wanted to look into 2023 or early 2024, we're also getting that raw data.

1096
01:25:11,490 --> 01:25:15,650
It's just not a searchable and a tool like it is here.

1097
01:25:15,650 --> 01:25:16,050
Okay.

1098
01:25:16,610 --> 01:25:18,450
Do we, I can guess?

1099
01:25:19,090 --> 01:25:25,530
But what's the, the busiest time of day for dear card clinicians?

1100
01:25:26,350 --> 01:25:29,330
It's, it's typically evening evening times.

1101
01:25:29,810 --> 01:25:31,150
Right at that twilight time.

1102
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:36,490
But again, we can, we can search those out by corridor time.

1103
01:25:36,630 --> 01:25:40,290
We can, we can give you day of the week, month of the year if you're curious.

1104
01:25:40,290 --> 01:25:43,510
We can nail it down as that that detail.

1105
01:25:46,890 --> 01:25:48,630
Very, very cool.

1106
01:25:48,970 --> 01:25:50,730
We're excited about it.

1107
01:25:51,150 --> 01:25:51,350
Josh.

1108
01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:54,250
So my question, obviously.

1109
01:25:54,930 --> 01:25:57,950
Of course, let's say that only engineers took statistics a nice voice.

1110
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:58,890
I don't know.

1111
01:25:58,890 --> 01:25:59,310
I didn't know that.

1112
01:25:59,590 --> 01:26:00,090
Oh, yeah.

1113
01:26:01,010 --> 01:26:09,310
No, but no, the question is, is, is plaza and a little less from eastbound to southbound.

1114
01:26:09,310 --> 01:26:12,510
Okay, is that anything looked at, this is something that's recent.

1115
01:26:13,170 --> 01:26:16,490
So our nipple comes through when Patrick gets,

1116
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:21,090
every intersection I'm a down park road, nothing stood out there,

1117
01:26:21,230 --> 01:26:23,730
but I have not run the detailed diagnostic there yet.

1118
01:26:24,430 --> 01:26:25,790
I don't think we had anything over.

1119
01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:30,310
I think we were in LOSS 2 there, but we weren't.

1120
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:33,890
It wasn't like three, high threes or something.

1121
01:26:33,890 --> 01:26:35,970
But I would like that.

1122
01:26:37,210 --> 01:26:40,650
But I would pretty much, for me, as my time

1123
01:26:40,650 --> 01:26:41,930
will allow, I'm going to look at anything

1124
01:26:41,930 --> 01:26:45,370
in that LLSS2, kind of like 20-mile point.

1125
01:26:45,570 --> 01:26:48,450
On the surface, it wouldn't look like we've

1126
01:26:48,450 --> 01:26:49,230
done a great big problem.

1127
01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:53,130
But diagnostics, here's your big red finger.

1128
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:55,870
Look at this, I think, we can definitely

1129
01:26:55,870 --> 01:26:57,790
look at that part of your plaza and report back

1130
01:26:57,790 --> 01:26:58,450
and see what it does.

1131
01:26:58,530 --> 01:26:59,650
Yeah, I'm just curious, because it will

1132
01:26:59,650 --> 01:27:02,370
such a huge intersection in people that

1133
01:27:02,370 --> 01:27:03,530
to go to work they don't know the course,

1134
01:27:03,650 --> 01:27:05,110
but it's pretty straight, doesn't it?

1135
01:27:05,790 --> 01:27:05,970
Yeah.

1136
01:27:06,910 --> 01:27:07,210
Thank you.

1137
01:27:08,650 --> 01:27:08,870
What?

1138
01:27:09,630 --> 01:27:11,330
If the so you only have this accident,

1139
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:13,190
the analysis software about a year ago?

1140
01:27:13,390 --> 01:27:13,610
No.

1141
01:27:14,510 --> 01:27:16,930
We actually signed a contract in November.

1142
01:27:17,170 --> 01:27:19,490
But we're, because of,

1143
01:27:20,110 --> 01:27:21,370
and I don't want to say,

1144
01:27:21,410 --> 01:27:23,730
it's easy, but the tool is pretty effective.

1145
01:27:23,810 --> 01:27:26,190
We're able to do a lot of it intersections

1146
01:27:26,190 --> 01:27:27,270
on a pretty short order.

1147
01:27:27,690 --> 01:27:29,550
So that kind of just the high level.

1148
01:27:29,550 --> 01:27:32,950
And so, because it's rather new,

1149
01:27:33,070 --> 01:27:36,230
what would you say are the top three goals of this program

1150
01:27:36,230 --> 01:27:39,350
in your mind as the traffic engineer,

1151
01:27:39,570 --> 01:27:44,930
you know, the goals are really to find the problems

1152
01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:52,150
that we can address and not rely on word of mouth to find that.

1153
01:27:52,170 --> 01:27:56,970
That to me is probably one entry is find the problem.

1154
01:27:57,890 --> 01:28:02,250
Everyone let's talk to their neighbor. Oh, this is the worst intersection in town.

1155
01:28:02,750 --> 01:28:07,250
Well, I'd like to have some data behind me to, to either confirm everything back.

1156
01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:14,190
And so that would be, find the issues you can address and prove intersections that will be the third one.

1157
01:28:14,770 --> 01:28:18,090
I mean, really, it's, it's safe for all users in town.

1158
01:28:18,370 --> 01:28:23,690
We are, we have, we have, we can't find the problems, we can't fix the problems.

1159
01:28:23,690 --> 01:28:31,290
So at the end of the day, the game is, see that I said it too, it's safety of all of our traveling public is why we do this.

1160
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:37,630
And so as time goes by, this is going to contribute overall to the safety of towns.

1161
01:28:37,730 --> 01:28:47,210
So five years from now, my goal is to get to a point where every single intersection in town is about LOS S1.

1162
01:28:47,810 --> 01:28:52,850
And we're, we don't have easy things to correct anymore. That would be my goal.

1163
01:28:52,850 --> 01:28:55,270
And what's the cost of this per year?

1164
01:28:55,290 --> 01:28:57,430
As 10K per year, 10,000 dollars.

1165
01:28:57,830 --> 01:28:59,250
That is our licensing fee.

1166
01:29:01,770 --> 01:29:03,810
And, compared to a person, you know,

1167
01:29:04,050 --> 01:29:07,390
and then just overall just because you are

1168
01:29:07,390 --> 01:29:09,330
in charge of traffic and signals and operations,

1169
01:29:11,210 --> 01:29:13,610
citizen complaints on the year.

1170
01:29:13,890 --> 01:29:15,030
What does that look like?

1171
01:29:17,980 --> 01:29:18,700
It varies.

1172
01:29:19,300 --> 01:29:25,680
Usually the complaints come sometimes from people

1173
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:30,000
of witness to accidents that like I said earlier we kind of get that

1174
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,340
visual reaction when you see a car ups I don't have an intersection like this

1175
01:29:33,340 --> 01:29:42,000
intersection is terrible right let's find out if it is and and so I I don't have a

1176
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:47,940
good answer for directly to your question but this may help yeah absolutely

1177
01:29:47,940 --> 01:29:52,700
sure in responding to that citizen complaint absolutely once you get enough data

1178
01:29:52,700 --> 01:29:53,360
Absolutely.

1179
01:29:54,500 --> 01:29:58,600
So somebody writes in and says, this intersection is very dangerous, a great spell didn't

1180
01:29:58,600 --> 01:29:59,140
parkland.

1181
01:29:59,260 --> 01:29:59,460
Yep.

1182
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:00,360
Thanks.

1183
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:01,420
A colleague, straight, fair question.

1184
01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:01,780
Yeah, early.

1185
01:30:02,140 --> 01:30:09,340
The first day, like years down here, where there's no ability to turn, there's no ability to get out, people are racing down

1186
01:30:09,340 --> 01:30:10,040
brand-spelt.

1187
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:15,200
To make the public say, Lincoln and Pine was another perfect example. We went to red arrows up there

1188
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,600
for all probably six years ago or so.

1189
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:23,820
Used to be. You go up time to turn left on the lake in and we just had it as a green ball. It's

1190
01:30:23,820 --> 01:30:26,540
wide open, sightlines. But our accident rate there was ridiculous.

1191
01:30:26,540 --> 01:30:28,560
And they really shouldn't be raising down

1192
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:29,660
brands called Road, right?

1193
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:31,740
It's kind of the least part of it as well.

1194
01:30:32,180 --> 01:30:33,180
But they seem to.

1195
01:30:33,180 --> 01:30:34,960
They just kind of alerted somebody.

1196
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,780
But so you're going to be able to take that data.

1197
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:41,600
And then when a citizen does have it,

1198
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:42,440
and playing, saying, sure,

1199
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,220
we've been able to analyze this with our data.

1200
01:30:45,260 --> 01:30:45,420
Yeah.

1201
01:30:45,860 --> 01:30:47,460
And respond appropriately.

1202
01:30:48,060 --> 01:30:48,100
Yeah.

1203
01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:50,760
And hopefully, we find them the board before

1204
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:52,500
I see that a conversation point is going

1205
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:53,140
for our statements.

1206
01:30:53,140 --> 01:30:56,860
We want to, we want to, we want to know those before the general public.

1207
01:30:56,900 --> 01:30:58,780
No, that was highway through all of that already.

1208
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:01,880
Thank you.

1209
01:31:01,980 --> 01:31:02,480
Yeah, great.

1210
01:31:02,980 --> 01:31:03,260
Yes.

1211
01:31:04,180 --> 01:31:08,740
So how am I know you and I spoke when I first got elected about the flinging yellow arrows.

1212
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,060
And I have been, I took what you said in heart that if they were new and we're testing

1213
01:31:14,060 --> 01:31:15,840
them out to see what the actual levels are.

1214
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:21,120
I know myself just in a lot of couple months have witnessed three accidents at

1215
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:40,720
And I was almost one of them because people don't understand the yellow blinking light, so is part of this is there a way for us to track how many of those accidents like with the turns and stuff are actually happening because people don't understand the blinking and yellow era.

1216
01:31:40,720 --> 01:32:00,080
So understand would be a stretch because the form form looks a cause and type, so they can put in things like an experienced driver, they can put in fail to yield, they didn't understand how the number was working.

1217
01:32:00,580 --> 01:32:05,100
That level of detail doesn't usually make it into the ice and ever report.

1218
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:11,440
Okay, so one of the things we talked about was give it a year specifically at a can of area and cuts

1219
01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:18,340
to see because that was new there and it's been over a year now. So we have we seen an increase in accidents that

1220
01:32:18,340 --> 01:32:23,320
typically with the turn on to can of area where we seem to decrease or do not know yet. We don't know yet.

1221
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:35,080
I'm still out to do anything else in some of the intersection, but that's the beauty of this software is now we can take a

1222
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,520
data after it, we can do a comparison.

1223
01:32:37,980 --> 01:32:39,720
Can we also actually know you and I talked about

1224
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,880
has in Canaverick, can we also add muscle marker

1225
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:43,340
and then test short to that?

1226
01:32:43,540 --> 01:32:45,700
It was because, right in that every single day.

1227
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,360
So can't tell if Canaverick, but is it the last time?

1228
01:32:48,380 --> 01:32:49,160
Yeah, sorry, he'll talk about it.

1229
01:32:49,180 --> 01:32:51,800
Yeah, the question, yellow arrow is instead of a solid

1230
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:52,700
of a green.

1231
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:53,920
Yes, a green ball.

1232
01:32:54,020 --> 01:32:57,380
It's a subtle, it's not a huge sight, it's not a blue here.

1233
01:32:57,820 --> 01:33:03,180
It's whether or not people, I, so we have lots of really

1234
01:33:03,180 --> 01:33:10,180
boring internal discussion, but can people run the flashing yellow? Is it because they don't

1235
01:33:10,180 --> 01:33:14,700
understand about flashing yellow means or do they misjudge the distance? The same as they would

1236
01:33:14,700 --> 01:33:21,100
at a green ball. So that's what I'm trying to figure out. Is why do why are we in the intersection

1237
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:26,640
when we shouldn't be? The one that I just saw at Matsabacher and Hess, it was my husband driving,

1238
01:33:27,140 --> 01:33:32,880
and it was red, but so all affordable red, but his was a blinking yellow arrow.

1239
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:45,500
He's like, well, do I go or do I not go the other people or saying the same thing in like in this little hesitant of like, oh, we're not in the light red, but it's blinking yellow. So yeah, for the record of flashing yellow means you can turn the events clear.

1240
01:33:45,780 --> 01:33:46,500
Yeah, we figured it out.

1241
01:33:47,380 --> 01:34:02,700
He had already experienced driver like I have been so a little of like if I need to drive. Right. You're a driver. Yeah, we'll just look. So the the one really cool thing and I'll just just because I'm a traffic nerd watching yellow is not the cure all.

1242
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:10,160
by any stretch, and sometimes brings attention to an intersection that people might not be looking at.

1243
01:34:10,380 --> 01:34:16,480
But the other thing that it lets us do is some creative things with operation by time of day.

1244
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:26,740
So chambers and mainstream, for example, if you go out there at 11 o'clock at night, it's a ghost now.

1245
01:34:26,740 --> 01:34:56,720
And if you sit there at a red arrow for 90 seconds, you're like, this stupid engineer does it, you know, but if you can roll up and you see it's clear and you can make the decision. So we're trying that in a lot of places where during the heart of the rush hour. No, nobody should have. I'm going to not even let you make it mistake. We're going to restrict it to red arrow. But at certain times of the day, we can take it back. Yeah, and I think that's what I just like to evaluate is, you know, how many accidents that we see.

1246
01:34:56,740 --> 01:35:01,360
an increase or decrease on with the yellow arrows and doesn't make sense to make them hard

1247
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:06,120
arrows during certain times. Yes. I've got it. Yeah, let me go there, I'm sorry.

1248
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:10,420
I'm sorry. Thank you. John, so I should thank you. Okay. Thank you, guys.

1249
01:35:15,540 --> 01:35:19,360
All right, on the next step we have a legislative update with the family voting.

1250
01:35:23,940 --> 01:35:27,320
The family were on the downturn of the session, right? Yeah, I know.

1251
01:35:51,060 --> 01:36:08,000
Well, I don't have a tip on to go over and I think I just have a few updates and then just wanted to give everyone an opportunity to bring up the many questions concerns or so that we're not currently tracking in.

1252
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:16,000
I'm going through our list on Friday and updated the status of each of those, based on what I love each and other.

1253
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:21,440
I mean, and what we just did actually on the general assembly is a tracker.

1254
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:26,000
So the first one is the bottom of page four.

1255
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:35,150
It's about 1080 and previously talked about it on the set.

1256
01:36:35,150 --> 01:36:45,110
This is youths for the personnel required in, and in conversations with Jeff, there are concerns about

1257
01:36:45,110 --> 01:36:56,150
the requirement for volunteers, volunteers and sports leads to be CPR certified and also factors that we have it as monitor.

1258
01:36:56,150 --> 01:37:06,390
And see how is speaking amendments for this to potentially get an opt-out for local

1259
01:37:06,390 --> 01:37:10,770
amendments for the sleeves, staff and some sort of section amendment.

1260
01:37:11,050 --> 01:37:15,710
So my initial question is just that if there's interest and possibly moving to an upload

1261
01:37:15,710 --> 01:37:18,230
and let them not make the decision, which is what we announced.

1262
01:37:21,690 --> 01:37:29,970
I mean, I'll tell you strictly that this will view and the mandate of what this would cost to this family.

1263
01:37:30,530 --> 01:37:42,870
Let me see. I think our parts of the right would be green, but this is a matter of cost. So there are positions that are closing by cemented for a municipal car.

1264
01:37:44,950 --> 01:38:00,810
And I would add, and I'm sure all of you have had children and sports here. How difficult is, especially pod might be on this to get volunteers to volunteer for as a coach for an assistant coach on anything in broccoli.

1265
01:38:02,030 --> 01:38:19,530
And we have a town population when people are busy working to jobs and to put this additional requirement on a citizen volunteer of a coach or an assistant coach is kind of further create at a total lack of volunteers.

1266
01:38:19,530 --> 01:38:31,570
So, in any sports league period, so that too for CML to really want this underload control, I totally agree, and I agree with the closing of the amendment.

1267
01:38:34,150 --> 01:38:48,370
I don't know whoever proposed this bill truly understands that there's no safety issue at hand in volunteer coaches and assistant volunteer coaches when it comes to sports league.

1268
01:38:48,370 --> 01:38:54,350
usually the children are never alone with the coaches, there is always a crowd of parents

1269
01:38:54,350 --> 01:39:00,450
they're watching in any sports team and there is a crowd of volunteers for any sports

1270
01:39:00,450 --> 01:39:08,830
league hearing parker as well. So this to me appears to be a money-making proposition for

1271
01:39:08,830 --> 01:39:17,030
folks that are administering CPR classes and birthday classes. That's what it appears to be.

1272
01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:24,230
It would appear to me that somebody came up with this bill to include their bottom line on these classes.

1273
01:39:24,790 --> 01:39:27,530
It's not necessary, then it's not being in touch.

1274
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:34,760
I really felt it.

1275
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:35,300
Yeah, it was.

1276
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:36,600
It was another one.

1277
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:37,520
That was great.

1278
01:39:43,650 --> 01:39:45,070
I will have that change.

1279
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:50,050
And when I remember things, we were okay to know.

1280
01:39:50,050 --> 01:40:00,130
on the page 9, construction V4. It's going to go 1,010. Just an update on this one that there's

1281
01:40:00,130 --> 01:40:05,830
delay in voting, but it didn't move out of committee. It's going down on the set of four for further

1282
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:10,270
discussion, potential amendments, so let's still know then.

1283
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,280
On the page 20 to New York,

1284
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:26,340
with the fire and the sensitive states that are

1285
01:40:28,350 --> 01:40:31,290
within another update on this one.

1286
01:40:32,750 --> 01:40:36,110
It's actually the bottom of the bill below at 1028.

1287
01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:40,710
That update is actually intended for the fire and the sensitive states.

1288
01:40:41,070 --> 01:40:49,850
That the Senate committee on judiciary was taking away the testimony and work committee discussion only on March 20.

1289
01:40:49,850 --> 01:40:55,250
So that is still moving toward it as well right now at least with discussion.

1290
01:40:55,770 --> 01:40:57,510
We talked a little bit about this one Friday.

1291
01:40:58,350 --> 01:41:01,830
It is, seeing all staffs opinion and this isn't that built.

1292
01:41:03,210 --> 01:41:06,010
That's, you know, that's still going through the issues ahead.

1293
01:41:06,470 --> 01:41:07,070
It's a little further than that.

1294
01:41:07,870 --> 01:41:09,430
Seeing all the holding positions.

1295
01:41:11,530 --> 01:41:13,850
Opposing us amended to please take a look at.

1296
01:41:14,830 --> 01:41:16,870
I think there's a lot of.

1297
01:41:22,690 --> 01:41:36,190
And can I just add again the reason for this bill is to not allow the citizens groups that are

1298
01:41:36,190 --> 01:41:42,230
springing up across the country to allow citizens can still carry in the classroom.

1299
01:41:42,970 --> 01:41:45,310
So that's what this deal is about.

1300
01:41:45,570 --> 01:41:50,270
This bill is about taking away a teacher's ride

1301
01:41:50,270 --> 01:41:54,130
for a citizen's room that trains citizens

1302
01:41:54,790 --> 01:41:57,250
to have open carrying a classroom away

1303
01:41:57,910 --> 01:42:00,630
so that teachers would not be able to protect themselves

1304
01:42:00,630 --> 01:42:01,450
in the classroom.

1305
01:42:02,850 --> 01:42:05,390
And so I'm very happy that this is going to die.

1306
01:42:13,060 --> 01:42:14,340
So it was pretty fun.

1307
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,200
Are you creating new things from CML and 1028?

1308
01:42:18,340 --> 01:42:25,880
I heard that's all that bad, and we have a few of the decisions safe injections.

1309
01:42:26,140 --> 01:42:29,880
So we didn't talk about it Friday, we only talked about the new business to take.

1310
01:42:29,900 --> 01:42:32,880
Okay, it's been a long agenda, so we didn't go back to one of your anticipated decisions.

1311
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:37,020
So I didn't hear anything William would probably know more about.

1312
01:42:40,150 --> 01:42:43,090
I'm looking to see if there's anything William will know.

1313
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,560
I'm going to move on to about the face 29.

1314
01:42:51,560 --> 01:43:01,560
We have seen the draft R2D model regarding governance and reform, I've boarded that to everyone today to take a look at.

1315
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:09,840
Looks like sponsors are looking for feedback by the 27 and there will be additional stakeholder outreach next week.

1316
01:43:10,340 --> 01:43:15,440
So if we hear anything, I will be sure to pass it along to the entire council.

1317
01:43:16,340 --> 01:43:19,780
So it says that you're looking for time position and next steps to be determined.

1318
01:43:20,420 --> 01:43:28,900
Yeah, it hasn't been formally introduced, review it, and then maybe if the next discussion, we can, the next one volume will be out as well.

1319
01:43:29,340 --> 01:43:37,180
So if there's more information at that point and you feel comfortable taking a position, can certainly talk further about it.

1320
01:43:37,420 --> 01:43:39,780
So that has been, it doesn't have a number yet.

1321
01:43:48,120 --> 01:44:05,940
I have a question about the state budget bill and some questions about aging resources being allocated for that.

1322
01:44:06,700 --> 01:44:15,200
I just was reading the email from the sort of, I'll be a second director from Asian resources.

1323
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:23,480
And this was, this was, I think just sent to me as a citizen that I just,

1324
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:29,540
do you know anything much more about this or can we look into this anymore?

1325
01:44:29,540 --> 01:44:38,860
Um, it just sounds like there's a sense of bill, uh,

1326
01:44:43,860 --> 01:44:45,360
so I just thought at this afternoon,

1327
01:44:46,260 --> 01:44:54,600
but it's just really going to, um, kind of hamstring a lot of the support that are

1328
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:59,980
and the population because currently receiving the same thing go through.

1329
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:00,440
So

1330
01:45:02,490 --> 01:45:24,290
yeah, it looks like the ask was to email representatives by this Wednesday asking them the fund easing services, as the bill did not include any increase in state funding for triple A or senior services, if they're support, we could certainly do that.

1331
01:45:24,290 --> 01:45:25,770
I don't want to get in the car, Pat.

1332
01:45:25,850 --> 01:45:31,470
Well, I think, you know, I got it, I think it was the same bill for the darker car, sort

1333
01:45:31,470 --> 01:45:39,390
of, you know, children, since they took away food regions, but, you know, it was the long

1334
01:45:39,390 --> 01:45:44,670
bills, no need to close now, as of, you know, but when it's day nine, so it was, it was

1335
01:45:44,670 --> 01:45:51,290
around the challenging to kind of find, you know, what was the five million, and that was

1336
01:45:51,290 --> 01:45:56,990
a challenge according to the people that are loving us to come up.

1337
01:45:58,110 --> 01:46:03,570
They were only in the question that I needed to have in tonight, which was Wednesday.

1338
01:46:04,990 --> 01:46:10,010
In the next couple of hours in this, you know, the other option, the attention for amendment to kind of add it,

1339
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:16,750
but with a long bill sort of trying to get to what it just becomes a responsibility,

1340
01:46:16,750 --> 01:46:22,250
and just, you know, determine the mood forward, you know, it was not going to be a

1341
01:46:22,250 --> 01:46:25,490
incredibly bleak Wednesday night, but other things would be happening.

1342
01:46:27,310 --> 01:46:28,030
Since then,

1343
01:46:30,270 --> 01:46:31,250
what does it mean?

1344
01:46:31,550 --> 01:46:35,730
When we start, I can certainly back and just see where it's at, when you're in the first

1345
01:46:35,730 --> 01:46:39,870
time of the possibility to support her, you know, for anything I actually might

1346
01:46:39,870 --> 01:46:44,090
count to, that it counts for potato. When you better fish a lot, I mean, this kind of,

1347
01:46:44,090 --> 01:46:46,890
Yeah, we're going to need to talk

1348
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:54,220
about any other bills, so we should go and say it's a question.

1349
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,060
Thank you for that.

1350
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:01,500
You're fast.

1351
01:47:02,580 --> 01:47:03,600
All right.

1352
01:47:03,900 --> 01:47:07,380
I'm going to turn item number four over to Miracle and Diet.

1353
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,800
Can you use the conversation that I'm going to excuse myself and pick it in early.

1354
01:47:12,340 --> 01:47:12,560
Sorry.

1355
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:43,800
and gender types.

1356
01:47:44,140 --> 01:47:46,220
Resolution discussion with Dary,

1357
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:47,940
Tannin and the Senate statutes,

1358
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:49,160
which are the most fun to mention,

1359
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,960
is what we still have with this development action,

1360
01:47:52,540 --> 01:47:54,200
as yourselves, and I told the work

1361
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:55,980
of a 90 participating in this online session.

1362
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,300
It was lunch, the record was like,

1363
01:47:59,300 --> 01:48:01,240
the relation that I already said to you to go.

1364
01:48:01,900 --> 01:48:03,320
So, in the file, I'll give it to you.

1365
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:05,760
Can I ask the question of our town attorney?

1366
01:48:06,980 --> 01:48:09,800
Why does Mayor Tobberg have to leave the room?

1367
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:15,100
He's a citizen and there are plenty of citizens here in the room tonight.

1368
01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:17,240
We should be able to stay in the room.

1369
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,620
And I actually have that discussion from the panel.

1370
01:48:20,860 --> 01:48:23,680
I'm happy to provide more information in the next second session,

1371
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:24,940
but I've got to be a laborer.

1372
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:28,000
So this is a public forum right now,

1373
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:29,580
but he has to leave the room.

1374
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:32,900
Due to the determination of our conference,

1375
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:34,220
and because that was the case.

1376
01:48:36,210 --> 01:48:37,430
He can watch this already.

1377
01:48:37,770 --> 01:48:38,590
Yes, he can.

1378
01:48:41,430 --> 01:48:45,770
I mean, I don't understand the leave the room issue.

1379
01:48:47,470 --> 01:48:49,530
There are plenty of people that can sit in this room.

1380
01:48:49,710 --> 01:48:50,750
You can listen online.

1381
01:48:51,650 --> 01:48:57,350
I think it's a trotace that he has to leave the room.

1382
01:48:59,590 --> 01:49:03,070
He can listen and then he can sit in this room.

1383
01:49:03,530 --> 01:49:08,570
But there's he should be able to sit in the room and participate in

1384
01:49:08,570 --> 01:49:13,750
that's what you're concerned about is not it could be the issue that could be discussed with them,

1385
01:49:13,750 --> 01:49:18,710
but he should be able to sit in this room. There is no public participation in study

1386
01:49:18,710 --> 01:49:24,330
settings. It's for council discretion. Sure. I guess that I advise to ask you that decision earlier

1387
01:49:24,330 --> 01:49:28,810
today and I'm happy to provide additional legal advice to council as to the legal decisions

1388
01:49:29,370 --> 01:49:34,990
that were made into having to leave the room this far. Do you want me to add the references of

1389
01:49:34,990 --> 01:49:42,370
of ethics. So in the code of ethics, it says in addition, you're disqualified a number in this case, Mayor Tolerary,

1390
01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:47,290
which I'll refrain from attempting to influence the decisions rather of other members of council

1391
01:49:47,290 --> 01:49:52,570
or board and voting on the matter and refrain from participating in any matter in the deliberations

1392
01:49:52,570 --> 01:50:00,270
of the council or board. So we have had presidents set in the past. We've had training sessions

1393
01:50:00,270 --> 01:50:09,890
where we have advised that when there's a conflict that when the item comes up that the town

1394
01:50:09,890 --> 01:50:14,770
council number or in this case the mayor has to leave the room because there's the herbal

1395
01:50:14,770 --> 01:50:20,650
and non-verbal communication, there's body language and that could be interpreted as influencing

1396
01:50:20,650 --> 01:50:25,570
other members of council and then tonight what we're going to be doing is asking for direction

1397
01:50:25,570 --> 01:50:28,450
on these resolutions that are in your back at the scene.

1398
01:50:28,730 --> 01:50:31,770
And so, you may recall the council number code.

1399
01:50:32,350 --> 01:50:35,450
She left the chambers when they were conflict issues

1400
01:50:35,450 --> 01:50:37,330
that's associated with the initiative notation.

1401
01:50:37,890 --> 01:50:39,950
You may recall she gathered up her belongings

1402
01:50:39,950 --> 01:50:42,050
and actually physically left the room.

1403
01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:44,390
That has been the history in the town

1404
01:50:44,390 --> 01:50:47,670
that if there's a conflict, that the best position

1405
01:50:47,670 --> 01:50:50,070
is to leave the room because at that point,

1406
01:50:50,210 --> 01:50:53,170
you cannot be accused of trying to influence other council members

1407
01:50:53,170 --> 01:51:05,510
again, raising a barn, throwing a buys, you know, could be interpreted as interpreting or influencing the other members of the board.

1408
01:51:05,790 --> 01:51:13,330
And you just see that not to put that body language piece to this ethics policy.

1409
01:51:13,630 --> 01:51:17,630
I mean, I mean, just for clarification, I mean, it's an interpretation.

1410
01:51:19,010 --> 01:51:28,670
And we certainly could, that that has been the practice, and again, it says shall refrain from attempting to influence the decisions of other members.

1411
01:51:28,830 --> 01:51:31,570
And refrain from participating any matter whatsoever.

1412
01:51:32,750 --> 01:51:34,650
So again, that is the language right out of the photographs.

1413
01:51:35,410 --> 01:51:36,890
Yeah, it does help.

1414
01:51:37,390 --> 01:51:39,630
The body language does help.

1415
01:51:39,630 --> 01:51:47,830
understand that. And if you seek fit to put, you know, that in there, that would be helpful for clarification in the future.

1416
01:51:48,170 --> 01:51:51,870
Certainly. And then I think in our training materials, when we have new council numbers,

1417
01:51:52,190 --> 01:51:59,110
new vayers, that is part of the training material that once the conflict is determined that you leave the room about I would pay.

1418
01:51:59,470 --> 01:52:04,770
Sarah, let's go. I just think we should put that in light in the future body language. If that's what you're getting at.

1419
01:52:04,770 --> 01:52:13,010
to make it perfectly clear in our ethics. Sure. But. Absolutely. Jenny and we need to have a

1420
01:52:13,010 --> 01:52:17,590
study session executive session on this item to kind of resolve this or should we just.

1421
01:52:17,630 --> 01:52:23,370
No, I think it's resolved. I asked the question John told it. Yeah, it's as long as there's no

1422
01:52:23,370 --> 01:52:27,090
further decision. I think we're fine. Okay. And I would just stay for the record that if you're

1423
01:52:27,090 --> 01:52:29,870
needs to be a positive change of the constant decision that's not discovered.

1424
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:38,340
That's all going to get into it. Yeah, that's all going to be possible to talk about whether we need a policy change to identify by the language.

1425
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:45,860
Then the council is stuck on that because staff can't go out and don't just do that. Correct. Correct. We need to have direction from the majority of council.

1426
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:54,140
Well, it's a clarification issue and if you don't want to change it, then the question will come up repeatedly in the future.

1427
01:52:54,900 --> 01:53:00,440
So I have no issue on that, as long as it's clarified each time it comes up, then it's a body language issue.

1428
01:53:01,180 --> 01:53:09,300
So I've got my question. If you're asking the question that you need to address the policy, then you're suggesting just being, we need to have a future discussion on changing the policy.

1429
01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:19,380
It's not something that they should do, if we do want council to talk about this and change policy, then I think you're suggesting we have a steady session on changing this policy.

1430
01:53:23,020 --> 01:53:28,380
I'm not changing the policy and the issue is not changing anything.

1431
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:37,200
It's making it more clear in writing so I didn't have to ask the question for future councils and I don't see that as changing policy.

1432
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:47,260
I see it. Let me finish please. I see it as clarifying what is already in the policy.

1433
01:53:47,500 --> 01:53:56,420
Okay. So I believe that the attorneys in this room with the help of Michelle can figure out whether that Lawrence and other study session were not.

1434
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,220
It is not a policy chain.

1435
01:53:59,220 --> 01:54:13,440
Again, let me read it in the clarification which has already Mr. Maloney. Hey, hey, I'm tired of being attacked by all of you. I'm not attacked by I'm tired of being attacked by every single one of you in this room

1436
01:54:13,780 --> 01:54:17,080
We're not attacking. No, well, they don't go there. No, go there. Don't go there.

1437
01:54:17,620 --> 01:54:25,680
Okay, all right, all right, don't play a turning with me either. I already put on the table. I already put on the table. I already put on the table

1438
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:31,820
who we're I think this should go okay go leave it there leave it there because you're

1439
01:54:31,820 --> 01:54:36,200
at you apparently don't understand that it's already in the policy Mr. Maloney

1440
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:40,660
specifically clarifying what are ready exists okay don't tell me we need a

1441
01:54:40,660 --> 01:54:45,420
council meeting on that or you are not by saying it no I don't need all of your

1442
01:54:45,420 --> 01:54:51,360
attacks and I'm quite done with them I have just a much right on both on this board

1443
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:54,520
And all of you, in terms of how you've been here 10 years,

1444
01:54:54,780 --> 01:54:58,440
or you've been here 12 years, does it make your voice any louder?

1445
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,140
I do not expect any more insult or attacks,

1446
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:02,840
but any of you on this council.

1447
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:04,500
I was getting question is not an attack.

1448
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:05,760
Yes, it is.

1449
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:06,800
I'm taking quite enough.

1450
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,340
You can't handle how to discuss projects and policies.

1451
01:55:09,380 --> 01:55:11,160
I think no, you have to do it.

1452
01:55:11,260 --> 01:55:12,860
You're quite not the ball of your bullying.

1453
01:55:13,060 --> 01:55:14,740
Laura, you're the one screening, though.

1454
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:17,320
No, that's right because I've taken three years of it.

1455
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:18,400
Let's forward back.

1456
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:19,180
Let's forward back.

1457
01:55:19,180 --> 01:55:32,360
Let's take a fair minute, very precise, and reset to the item hand here, subject as resolution, discussion, regarding town and sales tax, and general.

1458
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:39,880
Fund budget, the issue, town staff to present the factual information contained in the attached resolution.

1459
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:49,100
So I guess to me the first question is, we have two resolutions, one is facts, and one is written as an opposition.

1460
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:54,120
We want to have a discussion there when part of that and just go straight to the information.

1461
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:59,780
I see let's start with the information first and then decide how we want to proceed once we have the information.

1462
01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:02,100
Do we go with that?

1463
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:02,960
Okay.

1464
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:05,600
Let's go with the information.

1465
01:56:06,580 --> 01:56:07,060
Okay.

1466
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:13,920
So as John indicated, there are two forms of resolution that are in your survey session

1467
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:19,560
packet this evening, the resolution prepared by the town staff, and this is in response to

1468
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:25,940
the attendance that is being proposed by a petitioning committee called Under Citizens for Fair

1469
01:56:25,940 --> 01:56:32,280
Taxes. The purpose of the proposed ordinances to establish three separate exemptions

1470
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:37,580
to the sales tax collected by the town, specifically exempting the sale of food for

1471
01:56:37,580 --> 01:56:45,340
on-consumption, and stroke products and diapers from the town sales tax. So we have, I guess I'll

1472
01:56:45,340 --> 01:56:53,340
call it slide number one, and then the next one. So as I indicate, there's two forms of resolution,

1473
01:56:53,940 --> 01:56:59,320
I want to point out that these resolutions only address food for on-consumption. They do not

1474
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:03,360
address the other two items, menstrual products, or diapers.

1475
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:09,460
Town staff and I will refer to the exemption for food for home consumption.

1476
01:57:09,980 --> 01:57:16,780
As the grocery packs, town staff prepared the resolution for consideration by town council,

1477
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:21,560
because state law allows the governing body of the municipality and this issue,

1478
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:27,200
the town council, to pass a resolution to take a position of advocacy,

1479
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,600
concerning the proposed ordinance.

1480
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:40,180
The reason staff is providing town council with two forms of the resolution is to provide council with two options and addressing the proposed ordinance.

1481
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:45,680
We'll call the option one resolution takes a position of advocacy,

1482
01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:53,320
opposing the proposed ordinance, and the option two resolution does not take a position of advocacy,

1483
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:59,640
and directs that the bactual information contained in the resolution be shared with the residents of the town.

1484
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:07,520
The recitals contained in both resolutions include a bactual summary of the impacts to the town

1485
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:09,900
with the proposed ordinance is passed.

1486
01:58:10,460 --> 01:58:14,360
And I'll briefly summarize the differences between the two options.

1487
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:21,400
So option one, again, this is the advocacy resolution.

1488
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,540
The title to this resolution states,

1489
01:58:25,260 --> 01:58:28,580
the resolution of permanently asserting the town council's

1490
01:58:28,580 --> 01:58:31,640
opposition to the initiative petition,

1491
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:34,980
to exempt the purchase of food for home consumption

1492
01:58:34,980 --> 01:58:37,000
from the town sales tax.

1493
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:38,420
Just a little next time.

1494
01:58:40,820 --> 01:58:44,880
We cite on number two, and this is only contained in the option one,

1495
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:45,780
rest of the little Shen.

1496
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,880
And this specifically provides the town council

1497
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:50,740
that poses the proposed ordinance,

1498
01:58:51,380 --> 01:58:53,580
because the passage of the proposed ordinance,

1499
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:57,060
which amounts to an unplanned tax cut,

1500
01:58:57,340 --> 01:59:00,800
will negatively affect all residents of the town by,

1501
01:59:00,900 --> 01:59:03,340
and that the search's five different reasons.

1502
01:59:04,220 --> 01:59:06,440
Those reasons are all disgusting detail

1503
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:13,060
in the resolution. The first one would strain straining town services, including public safety

1504
01:59:13,060 --> 01:59:20,020
and public works, increasing the cost paid by residents for town services, necessity,

1505
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:25,740
necessitating an effort to fill in funding gaps with new revenues, many of which would

1506
01:59:25,740 --> 01:59:31,060
likely require a vote of the town residents, reducing the funds available for parking

1507
01:59:31,060 --> 01:59:39,100
recreation and cultural arts facilities and programs. And limiting the ability of the town to provide economic

1508
01:59:39,100 --> 01:59:46,620
incentives to attract new businesses and employment opportunities. Next slide. On the other hand,

1509
01:59:47,100 --> 01:59:53,820
the title for the option to restitution states a resolution to address the financial impact of the

1510
01:59:53,820 --> 01:59:59,000
if the purchase of food, brown, and sunshen is exactly the town sales tax.

1511
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,080
Residual number 2, as I indicated from the previous slide, is not contained in this particular

1512
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:13,180
resolution. Additionally, the concluding section of this resolution, which is contained on the last page

1513
02:00:13,180 --> 02:00:19,260
of the option to resolution, which is in the packet, states of the town council, hereby

1514
02:00:19,260 --> 02:00:29,980
direct that the information contained and recitals, be shared with the residents of the town of

1515
02:00:31,900 --> 02:00:35,380
That staff, did you take out the slide on your question?

1516
02:00:35,740 --> 02:00:36,380
We'll just have you.

1517
02:00:36,820 --> 02:00:37,000
Got you.

1518
02:00:38,700 --> 02:00:44,300
Staff and I are going to present financial impacts that are described in the two forms of a resolution.

1519
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:49,780
After conclusion of the presentation, town staff will request a reaction to the town council

1520
02:00:49,780 --> 02:00:54,860
concerning the placement of one of these options on the town council agenda for further

1521
02:00:54,860 --> 02:00:57,100
consideration by the town council.

1522
02:00:58,020 --> 02:01:04,340
And if you refer to the option number one resolution and except for paragraph two, the

1523
02:01:04,340 --> 02:01:12,340
bachelor of surgeons are the same, I'm going to start with recital number one, which states

1524
02:01:12,340 --> 02:01:17,260
there's currently a petition being circulated in the town of Parker to significantly cut

1525
02:01:17,260 --> 02:01:22,960
the town sales tax by eliminating the sales tax on food purchase but home consumption.

1526
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:29,840
There are several sub-paragraphs to this particular option, we cite a one.

1527
02:01:31,060 --> 02:01:35,920
This recital provides the background related to the petition that is being circulated

1528
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:37,740
for the proposed ordinance.

1529
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:45,260
If the committee submits sufficient signatures, and that's going to be 6,820 signatures,

1530
02:01:45,260 --> 02:01:48,760
to the town third by July 1st, 2024.

1531
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:54,560
The proposed ordinance will appear on the November 5th, 2024 general election.

1532
02:01:55,700 --> 02:02:00,420
If the committee submits sufficient signatures after July 1, 2024,

1533
02:02:01,220 --> 02:02:04,680
but before the August 12, 2024 deadline,

1534
02:02:05,220 --> 02:02:10,880
the town will be required to hold the special election after the November general election.

1535
02:02:11,500 --> 02:02:15,620
The cost of a special election is approximately $69,000.

1536
02:02:16,420 --> 02:02:19,120
And this assumes that we get assistance from Douglas County.

1537
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:21,760
If we don't, this cost is going to increase.

1538
02:02:21,900 --> 02:02:27,840
So this is, I think, going to be impacts that we wanted to identify for you in terms of this proposal.

1539
02:02:29,300 --> 02:02:34,020
If you go to recite a number three, like the option number one resolution,

1540
02:02:34,020 --> 02:02:53,600
It stays in 1981, landowners voted to incorporate the town of Arthur and voted to tax themselves to provide services that were not being adequately provided by the proposed county, including law enforcement, roads, parks, open space trails and basic municipal services.

1541
02:02:53,600 --> 02:03:00,600
Again, this paragraph also has a number of sub-paragraphs.

1542
02:03:01,460 --> 02:03:09,380
This recital provides the background related to the corporation of the town in 1981 to provide basic town services.

1543
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:12,680
These were services that were not being provided by Douglas County.

1544
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:19,060
And the decision of the original elected officials to adopt a sales tax,

1545
02:03:19,060 --> 02:03:24,160
which included the grocery tax to raise revenue to pay for these services.

1546
02:03:25,480 --> 02:03:33,240
In 1982, the town's citizens approved an additional 1.5 sales tax to buy the police department

1547
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:41,620
and the municipal court. This tax also included a grocery tax. And in 1990,

1548
02:03:46,640 --> 02:03:47,140
this was a

1549
02:03:47,140 --> 02:03:52,700
to access the views exclusively for the Parks and Recreation, including the grocery tax.

1550
02:03:53,500 --> 02:04:00,140
So since 1990, the town is collected, it combines 3% sales tax, which includes the grocery

1551
02:04:00,140 --> 02:04:12,760
tax. If you refer to recital number four in the Resolution Option 1, the town's 3% sales tax,

1552
02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:14,800
which includes the tax on groceries,

1553
02:04:15,220 --> 02:04:17,340
is paid by both account residents,

1554
02:04:17,740 --> 02:04:19,200
as well as non-residents.

1555
02:04:20,240 --> 02:04:22,920
The benefit of using a sales tax

1556
02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:26,760
to paper town services is that non-residents

1557
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:29,820
provide a significant amount of the sales tax revenue.

1558
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,100
Grows these stores and park are dropped,

1559
02:04:33,140 --> 02:04:35,000
this is not only from town residents,

1560
02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:37,280
but from non-residents, including

1561
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:39,120
when incorporated does this county,

1562
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:45,800
Rapo County, Aurora, Elizabeth, Branktown, Longtree, Caseroa, and

1563
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:53,020
the area. So, on the screen you have what's identified as the grocery store trade area,

1564
02:04:53,740 --> 02:04:58,020
well, these going to discuss that and get back to the website and include a designer stand

1565
02:04:58,020 --> 02:05:06,820
180,000 people. So, this is a trade area that we've used for grocery stores and other retailers

1566
02:05:06,820 --> 02:05:31,420
pretty much since I worked with the town, so over ten plus years. So there are minor refinements that come in the play of and you grow to show our opens and closes in the area. So this is a consistent map that we've utilized population as grown as housing in that area is grown and typically comes from what retailers tell us they're drawing from zip codes as well as commute patterns.

1567
02:05:31,420 --> 02:05:37,760
So, and people are driving up Parker Road, they're more inclined to stop on the grocery store

1568
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:43,300
in the way home for more things like this, like the grocery retailers and told us something.

1569
02:05:43,940 --> 02:05:50,020
And so, we decided on number four, concluded that the elimination of the grocery tax result

1570
02:05:50,020 --> 02:05:56,760
may have lots of major source of tax revenue from non-residents, we shop in Parker and a corresponding

1571
02:05:56,760 --> 02:06:02,700
increasing the cost of town, services to residents, or in the alternative, a significant

1572
02:06:02,700 --> 02:06:07,320
reduction in services provided by the town in the absence of early replacement.

1573
02:06:11,590 --> 02:06:17,090
Recyl 5, the majority of the revenue collected by the town to pay for town services comes

1574
02:06:17,090 --> 02:06:25,350
by 2.5% of the 3% of sales tax collected by the town, because the revenue of the 0.5%

1575
02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:30,010
of the sales taxes restricted by charter to the park and recreation fund.

1576
02:06:31,050 --> 02:06:38,830
This recital section explains that the in 2023, we did an analysis, which I'll

1577
02:06:38,830 --> 02:06:46,950
over in a future section, but in 2023, 67 million dollars was collected by the sales tax

1578
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:53,330
collections. The total amount paid into the general fund is 58 55.8 million in the total

1579
02:06:53,330 --> 02:06:56,950
outpied into a part of some recreation fund with 11.8 to 12.

1580
02:06:58,210 --> 02:07:04,050
In 2023, 69% of the town general fund revenue came from the two and a half percent sales tax.

1581
02:07:07,690 --> 02:07:07,890
All right.

1582
02:07:08,090 --> 02:07:10,290
Two and a half percent sales tax.

1583
02:07:10,590 --> 02:07:13,950
This is a revenue from the two and a half percent sales tax.

1584
02:07:14,090 --> 02:07:15,210
And who's taxing the risk?

1585
02:07:15,390 --> 02:07:17,310
Of course, it used to pay for town services.

1586
02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:19,330
It's described in the section.

1587
02:07:20,670 --> 02:07:23,810
So what this is a rather long section that said I get it somewhere.

1588
02:07:23,810 --> 02:07:28,910
you know, basically everything the town does, you know, the general fund and another fund

1589
02:07:28,910 --> 02:07:29,910
that are heavily reliant.

1590
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:35,660
On the general fund, either the transfers in, or as we're charges to the general fund.

1591
02:07:36,900 --> 02:07:45,200
And kind of giving some perspective on how much each of our few services might be impacted by this sales tax

1592
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:56,660
and brochures going away. You see, 34.2% of the money I come in, which I don't find, that's

1593
02:07:56,660 --> 02:08:01,560
not only law enforcement, as we traditionally think of a police service, but also looking

1594
02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:06,340
at building inspection services, live safety, rolled into that as well, that comes from

1595
02:08:06,340 --> 02:08:14,920
the General Fund. 24.9% comes from public works, which is a wonderful road network, and

1596
02:08:14,920 --> 02:08:20,280
everything that goes along the Serbs tonight, and we're about that tonight, and a lot of

1597
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:25,460
the developer view, inspections, stormwater management, is key attractive management,

1598
02:08:25,460 --> 02:08:31,220
It's no plowing streets we've been and not to mention management, engineering, and capital

1599
02:08:31,220 --> 02:08:31,740
projects.

1600
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:37,300
The big stuff would be built for the talents benefit as well as I said, on my regular

1601
02:08:37,300 --> 02:08:37,720
production.

1602
02:08:38,900 --> 02:08:45,800
18% is spent on general government, term it's not my favorite, because it just towns, you know,

1603
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:51,220
you know, there's a lot of important things within that 18% including the 10 million years

1604
02:08:51,220 --> 02:08:58,700
office, which manages and coordinates this dance that we do every day. And probably more importantly,

1605
02:08:58,860 --> 02:09:04,380
more fun, the community events section of the town comes through this general government,

1606
02:09:04,500 --> 02:09:12,720
18% section here. The municipal court, of course, finance department, IT, IT is actually largely

1607
02:09:12,720 --> 02:09:17,920
home fund, but every says a lot of it's funding through the general fund, so I'm going to

1608
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:24,540
answer this function. Human resources department, and then the part-sourcing of the space

1609
02:09:24,540 --> 02:09:28,780
segment of our partnership integration department, comes to the general fund, so I'm going to

1610
02:09:28,780 --> 02:09:40,540
do the general fund, a large part. We've spent 4.7% on that service, like with IT 2.7% the

1611
02:09:40,540 --> 02:09:45,740
cultural context from the general fund are 2.7% of the general fund goes to cultural

1612
02:09:45,740 --> 02:09:46,640
I should say.

1613
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:51,260
The end-cultural is its own special revenue fund and it does receive payment from the general

1614
02:09:51,260 --> 02:10:00,740
fund each year, and then 2.4% of community development, 1.3% economic developments, and then

1615
02:10:00,740 --> 02:10:06,700
I am James K on page 6, give some context on how many full-time employees we have, which is

1616
02:10:08,240 --> 02:10:15,560
1209, 606 part-time employees, and almost 1500 volunteers, but that's kind of a general fun.

1617
02:10:16,540 --> 02:10:22,720
So the point in showing you this session is that the tax cut would strain each of these services

1618
02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:28,580
and some large degree, it's a pretty large number, and to also impact the amount of personnel

1619
02:10:28,580 --> 02:10:32,260
presumably we would be able to fund to the tax cut and be successful.

1620
02:10:36,490 --> 02:10:38,190
Going on to number seven,

1621
02:10:38,190 --> 02:10:42,670
Kind of a similar situation, do you have percent sales tax on groceries,

1622
02:10:43,230 --> 02:10:48,650
just in the parks of REC Fund, and provides a partner for parks, recreation, and open space services.

1623
02:10:49,050 --> 02:10:54,230
Some are stored to number six above, just money funds and large park.

1624
02:10:54,230 --> 02:10:57,650
A lot of projects, a capital projects, land acquisitions.

1625
02:10:58,310 --> 02:11:03,430
You'll find a full list of those in your packet, parent, exhibit be.

1626
02:11:04,590 --> 02:11:07,770
These are all the projects that have been funded through this

1627
02:11:07,770 --> 02:11:11,870
half percent sales tax for the years since 1990.

1628
02:11:14,130 --> 02:11:18,670
Now I'll spare you if you're going through all of them, but you'll notice it's quite

1629
02:11:18,670 --> 02:11:19,310
as few.

1630
02:11:19,470 --> 02:11:21,590
It's quite a few that we funded over a year of span.

1631
02:11:22,050 --> 02:11:25,430
So, there are only an exhibit to see as everything we have planned for the future at this

1632
02:11:25,430 --> 02:11:25,750
point.

1633
02:11:25,910 --> 02:11:28,490
There's some pretty high profile to you.

1634
02:11:28,550 --> 02:11:30,090
I don't understand here.

1635
02:11:30,090 --> 02:11:34,290
Solesbury is in here that's a major bogey for us.

1636
02:11:34,850 --> 02:11:36,950
We like that project, it's very nice.

1637
02:11:39,430 --> 02:11:43,090
And if the grocery tax would go away,

1638
02:11:43,650 --> 02:11:46,310
presumably a lot of these projects would be compromised

1639
02:11:46,310 --> 02:11:49,430
and potentially have to go away as well.

1640
02:11:49,970 --> 02:11:53,550
Going out to 7D here, that's also operational impacts.

1641
02:11:54,530 --> 02:11:58,210
And would be felt because it's actual in the way.

1642
02:11:58,210 --> 02:12:04,570
You see that our personal recreation department managers, almost 400 acres of boat, part

1643
02:12:04,570 --> 02:12:12,690
land, 41 miles of trails, 14 parks, 100.4 acres of open space, four different recreation

1644
02:12:12,690 --> 02:12:16,710
facilities, including the rec center in the field of house, and that group of fortenates

1645
02:12:16,710 --> 02:12:21,510
of four range of adult new activities, including aquatic classes, original educational classes,

1646
02:12:21,650 --> 02:12:27,530
but this is one of the sports therapeutic recreation special links, our parks forestry

1647
02:12:27,530 --> 02:12:34,990
space folks as much as before. They're also involved in this part of Monday as well.

1648
02:12:36,290 --> 02:12:39,330
And they would be able to be impacted. There's this went away.

1649
02:12:41,630 --> 02:12:42,230
What's that?

1650
02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:47,160
We've already just learned a number.

1651
02:12:47,740 --> 02:12:48,320
You're number.

1652
02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:49,580
Oh well, that's an episode.

1653
02:12:49,580 --> 02:12:50,440
All right.

1654
02:12:55,720 --> 02:13:04,400
This, the TACS got a little reserve and it will result in a permanent loss of revenue for the town services and the and the park park and recreation fund.

1655
02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:05,260
That's the next.

1656
02:13:07,620 --> 02:13:20,800
This is a lot of numbers, but this is where we came up with the, about the factual values of what the town will be using if the taxing groceries go away.

1657
02:13:21,180 --> 02:13:28,060
The general revenue generated from tax on groceries in 2023 was $11 million.

1658
02:13:29,100 --> 02:13:34,340
The analysis was completed by a week compared Douglas County sales tax returns with the town of

1659
02:13:34,340 --> 02:13:35,680
Parkour sales tax returns.

1660
02:13:36,140 --> 02:13:40,980
The difference in the tax base between these two entities of some Douglas County is

1661
02:13:40,980 --> 02:13:41,340
brochure.

1662
02:13:41,780 --> 02:13:46,520
So we backed into getting the sales tax, the taxable sales.

1663
02:13:46,520 --> 02:13:50,900
to analyze 62 stores, we went all the way from Costco, to consumers,

1664
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:55,920
all the way down to the 7-11, New South milk at the grocery type items.

1665
02:13:56,340 --> 02:14:03,400
We analyzed 62 retailers, month-long bonds for the year 2020, 2021, 2022, and 23 in order to get a trend.

1666
02:14:03,940 --> 02:14:09,940
So that's where the $13.2 million pins in with the 3% to 1.5% of that,

1667
02:14:09,940 --> 02:14:14,080
that is taxable value, is the $11 million dollars.

1668
02:14:14,080 --> 02:14:14,540
The

1669
02:14:21,070 --> 02:14:28,730
average amount of grocery, the tax on groceries, average 13.6% that's all general fun revenue.

1670
02:14:30,370 --> 02:14:38,950
And the estimated loss for $20-25 is $11.7 million. We use that based on the projected in

1671
02:14:38,950 --> 02:14:46,730
$20-144 budget and we projected up to 4% the 4% revenue increase. It's just an estimate.

1672
02:14:46,730 --> 02:14:56,570
So it's estimated loss of revenue was $11.7 million in 2025 and we then went from $20.6 to $20.35

1673
02:14:58,230 --> 02:14:59,970
and the estimated...

1674
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:22,060
Those tax revenue there, you can see is $143 million, and when we tapered it down, they did not use 4% projection. I tapered it down to 1% and not knowing the future. It down into through 2020, 2050. And the full amount between that period of 2036 to 2050 is $2993 million.

1675
02:15:26,290 --> 02:15:27,610
So we did this before.

1676
02:15:28,010 --> 02:15:28,570
We did this before.

1677
02:15:28,970 --> 02:15:34,870
It is in the packet, and it is in the packet, and it is in the packet.

1678
02:15:35,150 --> 02:15:36,210
It's for evolution.

1679
02:15:36,990 --> 02:15:37,810
Yeah, but either choice.

1680
02:15:38,810 --> 02:15:39,070
Yeah.

1681
02:15:41,780 --> 02:15:42,940
Same analysis was done.

1682
02:15:43,060 --> 02:15:44,000
We just use the same numbers.

1683
02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:46,740
And by the house into it for acceleration.

1684
02:15:47,660 --> 02:15:50,720
You'll see in 2020 free to point two million dollars.

1685
02:15:50,720 --> 02:15:56,680
is the actual tax and grocery that came into the Parks and Recreation Fund

1686
02:15:56,680 --> 02:16:03,260
again using the exact same analysis. And it is 15.80% of all of the Parks and Recreation

1687
02:16:03,260 --> 02:16:13,360
revenue that comes in. Or maybe 2025 projected plus would be

1688
02:16:16,040 --> 02:16:19,060
I don't know if that one we made it on here.

1689
02:16:19,060 --> 02:16:20,440
Yep, $2.3 million.

1690
02:16:21,380 --> 02:16:24,340
And the $20, 26, they're $23.5.

1691
02:16:24,500 --> 02:16:30,240
This is $20, and this is $20, $26, $20, $250 is $25.8 million.

1692
02:16:33,350 --> 02:16:34,490
I don't know if that one made it on here.

1693
02:16:34,770 --> 02:16:36,630
Yep, $23 million.

1694
02:16:40,450 --> 02:16:44,350
And the $20, $26, $23, $26, $250 is

1695
02:16:49,630 --> 02:16:50,670
$25.8 million.

1696
02:16:53,360 --> 02:16:57,260
The unplanned tax cut of the proposed ordinance is not completely replacement revenue for

1697
02:16:57,260 --> 02:17:00,160
council services and the purchasing rate tuition fund.

1698
02:17:01,720 --> 02:17:08,520
The two primary sources are tax resources in these two funds is sales tax.

1699
02:17:09,160 --> 02:17:17,420
Property tax in 2023 was $2.7 million or $113 per resident for a single family resident.

1700
02:17:17,420 --> 02:17:19,020
And yes,

1701
02:17:23,340 --> 02:17:24,020
it's a bit exciting.

1702
02:17:25,080 --> 02:17:28,540
So we take a comparison of all of,

1703
02:17:28,660 --> 02:17:33,120
we took every single city town in the state of Colorado,

1704
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:34,520
made a comparison.

1705
02:17:35,360 --> 02:17:36,520
We compared it with the clicks,

1706
02:17:36,520 --> 02:17:38,420
Max, who doesn't collect taxes on grocery,

1707
02:17:38,940 --> 02:17:44,380
we look at the different mill levies and the sales tax rate,

1708
02:17:44,520 --> 02:17:45,860
just a bargain comparison.

1709
02:17:46,740 --> 02:17:49,180
That's what this exhibit is.

1710
02:17:50,660 --> 02:17:52,620
and we sorted it by population.

1711
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:57,680
The town has, if you can see here, the town has one of the

1712
02:17:57,680 --> 02:18:06,440
lowest municipalities property tax rates in the area. Is it $50? This is the top 50

1713
02:18:06,440 --> 02:18:12,420
quality of this college. So we have a mall. We don't, we now realize all of them, but these are

1714
02:18:12,420 --> 02:18:20,380
the top 50 that I made it today. If we were to increase property tax revenue in order to fill the

1715
02:18:20,380 --> 02:18:30,900
up the tax on grocery, then Mill-Levy would go from 2.6.0 to 6.2.6.0 to 12.3.3 or 3.

1716
02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:38,760
Mill's, I'm not interested. Sorry, let me recay that. 2.6.0 to Mill's to 12.3 or 3.0.

1717
02:18:39,180 --> 02:18:46,620
So that would be a very large increase and it would shoulder all on town residents because it would have to be properties in the town.

1718
02:18:46,960 --> 02:18:48,640
And that would have to go to the boat of people.

1719
02:18:48,640 --> 02:18:55,540
So I just, I sort of had, I mean, I read that and I understand based on, that's a very

1720
02:18:55,540 --> 02:18:57,120
absolute number.

1721
02:18:57,760 --> 02:19:05,440
Is that based on 2020-23 numbers and just, you know, I mean, we're just assuming that

1722
02:19:05,440 --> 02:19:05,840
average.

1723
02:19:06,580 --> 02:19:15,440
I took the 2020, the budgeted revenue of the $2.7 million, and then I added the gap that the

1724
02:19:15,440 --> 02:19:19,040
text on grocery would create, do you get a total that I was going to get to?

1725
02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:21,940
But you were in use in what years now?

1726
02:19:21,940 --> 02:19:22,760
What are you talking about?

1727
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:24,640
So, make some clarification.

1728
02:19:25,060 --> 02:19:30,320
Because again, I try to go off actuals because I'm here.

1729
02:19:31,080 --> 02:19:33,640
But I mean, I use a reason for traditions.

1730
02:19:34,300 --> 02:19:39,660
I just want to make sure that for context, if somebody leaves this, you know, based on

1731
02:19:39,660 --> 02:19:40,860
2020-3 numbers.

1732
02:19:40,860 --> 02:19:46,880
And then I took the certification that was counted from the mill certification that the time

1733
02:19:46,880 --> 02:19:49,740
receives and filled the gap in place into the top.

1734
02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:56,160
The same analysis was done.

1735
02:19:57,160 --> 02:19:59,940
If the gap was to be filled by sales tax,

1736
02:20:00,100 --> 02:20:03,860
I took the sales tax, the grand total sales tax,

1737
02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:14,840
And then to get to the same revenue that we're at today in budgeted revenue, the Bells tax increase would be 3.

1738
02:20:15,100 --> 02:20:19,640
It would total 3.7% so it was 0.7% increase.

1739
02:20:20,560 --> 02:20:26,880
And that would, again, have to be to both of the residents.

1740
02:20:26,880 --> 02:20:30,200
We can have this slide, and again, I should sort of be partnered.

1741
02:20:31,440 --> 02:20:31,920
Yeah.

1742
02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:32,960
Just so that happens.

1743
02:20:35,640 --> 02:20:36,120
That's good.

1744
02:20:42,030 --> 02:20:46,830
So item number 10, as a comparison of tax and groceries to other cities and towns.

1745
02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:55,210
And this section builds off of the exhibits, being an F, to a large extent, just a little bit more context.

1746
02:20:55,430 --> 02:20:58,030
They can then want to help park her.

1747
02:20:58,030 --> 02:21:00,170
who have lived some pair of due experience palaces.

1748
02:21:02,470 --> 02:21:06,350
So according to the current Department of Local Affairs,

1749
02:21:06,350 --> 02:21:08,430
there are two hundred seventy three municipalities

1750
02:21:08,430 --> 02:21:11,990
in Colorado, under two or home wall,

1751
02:21:12,170 --> 02:21:15,410
under seventy one or statutory percentage of municipalities.

1752
02:21:15,410 --> 02:21:16,810
They collected tax on groceries,

1753
02:21:17,150 --> 02:21:19,830
and 64% of all those two in the 73,

1754
02:21:20,450 --> 02:21:23,870
a total of 174 municipalities in all

1755
02:21:23,870 --> 02:21:26,190
collecting grocery tax, however,

1756
02:21:26,190 --> 02:21:36,230
of the home-ruled municipalities, 75% collect sales tax on groceries, 1276, and 57% and 98%

1757
02:21:36,230 --> 02:21:43,270
total statutory cities and towns collect the tax in groceries. On Exhibit F, we don't have

1758
02:21:43,270 --> 02:21:50,750
the fall list here, but it isn't the packet. Here is the summary of the top of Exhibit

1759
02:21:50,750 --> 02:21:53,370
of just greater than a year of quick education.

1760
02:21:54,070 --> 02:21:54,650
In case you're wondering,

1761
02:21:54,830 --> 02:21:58,410
whether it is Georgetown and they have a editorial chart.

1762
02:21:59,690 --> 02:22:00,550
You have two points for it.

1763
02:22:00,550 --> 02:22:02,670
It's although there's eight.

1764
02:22:04,750 --> 02:22:07,470
But they also assess the sales tax on groceries.

1765
02:22:08,470 --> 02:22:10,150
Territorial chart here or not.

1766
02:22:13,010 --> 02:22:14,050
Section B,

1767
02:22:15,550 --> 02:22:17,190
the tax about statutory towns,

1768
02:22:17,330 --> 02:22:18,710
this is hung only in the spally,

1769
02:22:18,710 --> 02:22:20,310
partners, of course, the honoring and the

1770
02:22:20,310 --> 02:22:23,550
sub-allions state constitution, which means we have

1771
02:22:23,550 --> 02:22:27,030
a full-ride of self-governments over our own affairs

1772
02:22:28,030 --> 02:22:29,970
and the implementation and the building.

1773
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:33,340
Just generate revenue and collector on sales tax, now those good things.

1774
02:22:35,280 --> 02:22:39,840
For those of you that's probably the don't have a sales tax on groceries, they a lot of times

1775
02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:42,820
will offset that lack of collection with other taxes.

1776
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:50,300
For example, city of Aurora, just in the north of us, they have sales tax of $1.53%,

1777
02:22:50,380 --> 02:22:52,020
they have a separate tax on marijuana.

1778
02:22:52,660 --> 02:22:58,000
In the forecast, there is 24 marijuana stores, generating about $11 million in revenue a year from

1779
02:22:58,000 --> 02:23:00,360
was 20% in ERC's named 24 stores.

1780
02:23:01,080 --> 02:23:04,280
8.300% sales tax on marijuana.

1781
02:23:04,940 --> 02:23:06,320
There's an occupational privilege tax.

1782
02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:08,640
I head taxed with the city where we're also

1783
02:23:08,640 --> 02:23:11,020
collects that's paid by both the employee

1784
02:23:11,020 --> 02:23:13,680
and the employer each month.

1785
02:23:14,280 --> 02:23:16,760
And then a much higher property, tax, mill,

1786
02:23:16,860 --> 02:23:19,740
levied at 8.407 miles.

1787
02:23:20,780 --> 02:23:27,740
So Aurora is just one example, but there's any number of cities

1788
02:23:27,740 --> 02:23:33,660
You look at no doubt there are some that have a lower total tax burden than us, but not many.

1789
02:23:34,600 --> 02:23:41,700
You'll find a whole myriad of creative taxation and fee-based structures out there.

1790
02:23:42,060 --> 02:23:49,020
But we are quite on the lower side. Again, with the 2.602 mills in the 3% total sales tax.

1791
02:23:50,080 --> 02:23:54,700
These attachments in the Exhibits ENF are just to give you that context once again.

1792
02:23:56,220 --> 02:24:03,760
Going on to item number 11 here, the 5% restricted sales tax, of course goes again to our

1793
02:24:03,760 --> 02:24:08,800
public, our parsing elect folks, but section 11 is kind of more building on and giving

1794
02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:15,880
details to section 7 that we cover above going to exhibit to be in C again, we've collected

1795
02:24:15,880 --> 02:24:21,100
that half-cent sales tax in July of 1990 as approved by the Bovers of the town.

1796
02:24:21,100 --> 02:24:30,320
We have collected over $135 million from that .5% sales tax since 1990 and you saw earlier

1797
02:24:30,320 --> 02:24:35,500
the other sense of whistings that it's B and C of what that money has gone toward.

1798
02:24:37,100 --> 02:24:42,080
So just as a reminder, they can be used to pay for acquisition of park land, the other permanent

1799
02:24:42,080 --> 02:24:45,940
charging and reduction programs and facilities, operations and maintenance and charging

1800
02:24:45,940 --> 02:24:50,380
programs and facilities and that service and bonds, another job obligations to a part of

1801
02:24:50,380 --> 02:24:52,840
in this case, development margin or facilities.

1802
02:24:54,600 --> 02:24:57,840
In session D, you'll see a handful of called out big,

1803
02:24:58,100 --> 02:24:59,820
high profile projects have been used

1804
02:24:59,820 --> 02:25:03,660
that have been built using this half percent sales tax.

1805
02:25:04,020 --> 02:25:05,920
The idea of being the town has been a pretty good

1806
02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:08,240
steward and leveraging that money into belts

1807
02:25:08,240 --> 02:25:10,780
and really cool high profile things

1808
02:25:10,780 --> 02:25:12,340
were residents and been enjoyed

1809
02:25:12,340 --> 02:25:14,120
for many, many years.

1810
02:25:14,980 --> 02:25:18,720
And I should use that as pretty much the same thing.

1811
02:25:18,720 --> 02:25:23,700
and a section after their future projects may be in the course of the next

1812
02:25:23,700 --> 02:25:27,300
of its scene as that sales tax and motion support has been made.

1813
02:25:28,340 --> 02:25:34,180
The section 12 talks about how the account has historically offered financial incentives to

1814
02:25:35,580 --> 02:25:40,860
attract and get forward through stores throughout the town of Parker. Just historically,

1815
02:25:41,080 --> 02:25:47,420
the first program that was put in place was put in place in July 17, 1989. It was the

1816
02:25:47,420 --> 02:25:53,340
a step program which stands for enhanced sales tax incentive program.

1817
02:25:53,760 --> 02:26:00,680
It's purpose was to attract new businesses. Again, sharing back sales tax that is generated by that business.

1818
02:26:01,340 --> 02:26:03,120
It did include tax on groceries.

1819
02:26:04,300 --> 02:26:11,200
With the owner and they were required that shareback was because they were putting in public improvements such as streets,

1820
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:17,260
heard scutters, sidewalks, anything needed for that new business from an infrastructure standpoint.

1821
02:26:18,120 --> 02:26:24,920
On December 14th, 2009 council replaced the S.D. program with the tax and media systems program.

1822
02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:32,780
The FAP. And that was a way to expand and attract a more diverse business,

1823
02:26:33,100 --> 02:26:37,140
moving in Parker as a rooftop sort of coming when we wanted to make sure we were getting

1824
02:26:37,140 --> 02:26:44,420
great retailers coming in to the town as well. It did include tax on groceries and for public improvements

1825
02:26:44,420 --> 02:26:49,560
to support the new business but also employment opportunities coming in to the town.

1826
02:26:50,740 --> 02:26:58,500
Based on the S tip and the tap program, which we like primarily on sharing that on grocery taxes,

1827
02:26:58,840 --> 02:27:07,120
those projects included PASCO, super target King Super's in Cottonwood and King Super's in

1828
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:12,940
Most recently on February 5th, we did an amendment to the King's Point Retail LLC.

1829
02:27:13,520 --> 02:27:18,860
That is our shopping center assistance program for the developer of the Whole Foods Project,

1830
02:27:19,900 --> 02:27:25,140
which includes other retailers relying on the sales tax of the groceries for that project to be delivered.

1831
02:27:27,240 --> 02:27:35,880
And it significantly was for the $3.2 million was significantly for including stabilizing the major drainage

1832
02:27:35,880 --> 02:27:41,900
that runs across that property that is a regional drainage way, not just benefiting that property,

1833
02:27:42,720 --> 02:27:48,440
sidewalk, traffic, signal. And the whole food project may not be coming if it wasn't for

1834
02:27:48,440 --> 02:27:54,380
ability to incentivize that project. Going forward, the cutting of the grocery taxes,

1835
02:27:54,560 --> 02:28:00,960
what'll eliminate our ability to track other groceries in town, there's two sites specifically that

1836
02:28:00,960 --> 02:28:07,420
are looking at potentially moving to the west side of the post shopping center in the new area

1837
02:28:07,420 --> 02:28:12,160
one strand cell is connected through as well as chest and pain.

1838
02:28:12,460 --> 02:28:19,920
Just chambers. Sorry. I'm not going to grab her down the chest with intersection. Sorry.

1839
02:28:21,340 --> 02:28:28,800
I do want to say this is all these programs. Just focus on the 2.5% of the sales tax, the

1840
02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:33,620
That was restricted from parks and racks was not part of any incentive package.

1841
02:28:34,260 --> 02:28:38,700
So it was an extra benefit to park and rapid to be able to maintain that point.

1842
02:28:38,880 --> 02:28:43,800
5% that was restricted on the grocery tax, even if we were incentivizing.

1843
02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:48,660
Frankly, most of our groceries that have.

1844
02:28:50,340 --> 02:28:54,680
So last but not least, in terms of the recitals and cycled 13,

1845
02:28:54,680 --> 02:29:01,080
If the purpose of the proposed ordinance is to provide tax relief to our alternatives to

1846
02:29:02,180 --> 02:29:08,020
limiting the tax on groceries. For example, low income households, our eligible for food

1847
02:29:08,020 --> 02:29:14,000
assistance, such as the federal supplement or nutrition assistance program. These folks are already

1848
02:29:14,000 --> 02:29:21,980
exempt from paying grocery tax. The demographics of the town of Parker and the trade area that

1849
02:29:21,980 --> 02:29:29,540
talked about reveal that most of the grocery tax is paid by those that do not qualify as low income.

1850
02:29:31,100 --> 02:29:36,700
Instead of eliminating the grocery tax, it may be more cost effective to target tax relief,

1851
02:29:37,180 --> 02:29:42,660
to low and moderate income households or rebates or similar mechanisms rather than the

1852
02:29:42,660 --> 02:29:49,060
elimination of these grocery tax. And then finally, as part of our discussion later,

1853
02:29:49,060 --> 02:29:59,980
There may be direction coming from town council for staff to look at other alternatives to limiting the grocery tax and providing relief for certain.

1854
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:12,240
Folks, such as income based or age based. So that really concludes at least our discussion on the resolution itself. I do know that Michelle has, let's be related to.

1855
02:30:14,220 --> 02:30:17,380
So, and I can talk about it now, or we can go to the resolution.

1856
02:30:17,380 --> 02:30:21,700
I mean, I'm just going to refer on something like that.

1857
02:30:24,440 --> 02:30:31,040
So any cast like questions, comments or explanation on how we got to certain numbers

1858
02:30:31,040 --> 02:30:33,600
having to maintain that in the time.

1859
02:30:34,660 --> 02:30:35,720
Oh, yes, sir.

1860
02:30:35,880 --> 02:30:36,240
All right.

1861
02:30:36,580 --> 02:30:36,740
Pan.

1862
02:30:36,940 --> 02:30:37,440
Yes.

1863
02:30:37,680 --> 02:30:38,780
You go to my notes.

1864
02:30:42,940 --> 02:30:43,140
Okay.

1865
02:30:43,360 --> 02:30:51,160
So on the 34.2% that goes to public safety, can you dive in a little bit more on that?

1866
02:30:51,160 --> 02:30:55,920
you dive into when we talk public safety, obviously when talking about our police department.

1867
02:30:57,040 --> 02:30:58,260
But what does that mean?

1868
02:30:58,580 --> 02:31:00,420
Can we just dive in a little bit into public safety?

1869
02:31:02,020 --> 02:31:06,300
So, this calculation came from looking at 2023 actions.

1870
02:31:06,900 --> 02:31:07,920
Again, that's my life.

1871
02:31:09,220 --> 02:31:10,620
34 per gig two percent.

1872
02:31:12,300 --> 02:31:13,020
We love your life.

1873
02:31:13,400 --> 02:31:13,620
Thank you.

1874
02:31:14,220 --> 02:31:14,460
Thank you.

1875
02:31:15,260 --> 02:31:17,460
So, 34 per gig two percent.

1876
02:31:17,460 --> 02:31:28,400
It's the administration control investigations, it's the entire police department, and then we also include there's $2 million of the

1877
02:31:28,400 --> 02:31:44,540
that $34.8% that those two, I think it's not $2 million. Those two building inspection, but they are 100% bonded through charges for services. So there are there is revenue. This is all the expenses in the general fund.

1878
02:31:44,540 --> 02:31:50,420
There is other revenue that offset some of this, but not a lot of most of the police department is

1879
02:31:51,480 --> 02:31:58,480
is funded by the TEL tax or other the property tax that comes in. So it's every single

1880
02:31:58,480 --> 02:32:03,520
police department that we have. Please, please, the division got it. Okay, in the police department.

1881
02:32:04,180 --> 02:32:10,400
So then, doing my math and I'm just going on my household here because we're a family of six.

1882
02:32:10,400 --> 02:32:14,400
Of course, spending about $250 a week on groceries, which is about what we spend,

1883
02:32:16,200 --> 02:32:23,280
times the 52 weeks divided by the 2.5%. I'm looking at an average household savings of

1884
02:32:23,280 --> 02:32:29,560
$1300 a year. Is that accurate? Yes. If you look at the 2.5, and then you hope that it's

1885
02:32:29,560 --> 02:32:35,140
3% is what we're looking at for the person right piece. Yeah, yeah, it's under that figure.

1886
02:32:39,520 --> 02:32:40,000
Okay,

1887
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:42,040
I don't know, my longest of the way to the world.

1888
02:32:45,080 --> 02:32:50,640
I just wanted to write a clarification on, you know, what we're actually looking at here, average savings for household.

1889
02:32:51,060 --> 02:32:55,440
I did like the things you brought to us of alternates of people.

1890
02:32:55,660 --> 02:32:59,480
You know, of course I think about grandma and grandpa on a fixed income, but grandma and grandpa on a fixed income.

1891
02:32:59,680 --> 02:33:01,320
I don't eat as much as my family of six does.

1892
02:33:01,960 --> 02:33:04,460
So I like that you guys had some alternates for us.

1893
02:33:04,640 --> 02:33:05,900
Thank you for that.

1894
02:33:05,900 --> 02:33:14,040
Yeah, I'm not an account, so I'm not going to go into any numbers if you have.

1895
02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:22,980
I'm just curious that we have these two resolutions here that later we'll do a headnotar.

1896
02:33:23,740 --> 02:33:30,400
But I see yellow on E, I don't see all these numbers filled in.

1897
02:33:30,400 --> 02:33:44,080
We're going to have that state non-residents, but that's the question, I mean, should either one of these resolutions go forward, would you be filling in those numbers?

1898
02:33:45,620 --> 02:33:51,080
We are working on getting better data sources, but we had a sign on agreement and get that in place.

1899
02:33:51,080 --> 02:34:00,560
I'm hoping to have that later this week, if not early next week, but it's just going to the process of getting that information to the contract.

1900
02:34:01,220 --> 02:34:05,020
And that's for traffic patterns, the resident representative current.

1901
02:34:05,260 --> 02:34:14,720
And then if we look at the USDA or the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, which is how we came up with the number of 2021 when we were going for this.

1902
02:34:16,140 --> 02:34:23,560
If you look at the per her households, and then you say 2.8, sorry, we don't have 6 average.

1903
02:34:23,940 --> 02:34:33,140
And per household, and then their average based on census information of what it grocery is.

1904
02:34:33,300 --> 02:34:37,080
So there's there's two ways to get to the number of it, and it's an element estimate.

1905
02:34:37,080 --> 02:34:50,900
But it's between, we're estimating between 45 to 55% is can swing either way if it's different, so we were trying to get a different difference.

1906
02:34:51,200 --> 02:35:03,060
Different way to look at it based on traffic patterns. You have the numbers based on USDA and your labor expenses, but now we're looking at traffic patterns to kind of pull in the final piece.

1907
02:35:03,060 --> 02:35:15,740
So eventually this, and this is a question for our town manager, those numbers would be filled in, and this would call before us again. Is that correct? Yes.

1908
02:35:16,820 --> 02:35:18,280
Okay, and that's another discussion.

1909
02:35:18,580 --> 02:35:25,920
Well, that's a discussion for council on good direction you guys decide to get us in terms of what you want to do with the resolutions.

1910
02:35:27,320 --> 02:35:35,160
because to clarify my previous comment to Mr. Maloney, the issue already existed in the

1911
02:35:35,160 --> 02:35:41,220
ethics policy, it was simply a tenant in the clarification that body language should be added,

1912
02:35:41,420 --> 02:35:49,640
which does not require counsel to review that. On this on the other hand, we have yellow on this page,

1913
02:35:49,640 --> 02:36:00,020
number is not here. And tonight we're being asked to consider two resolutions to go forward

1914
02:36:01,400 --> 02:36:08,220
with blanks on the numbers. Well it's whatever you guys decide to do in terms of the direction

1915
02:36:08,220 --> 02:36:13,980
to us whether you want to come back in another study session and discuss again whether you want to

1916
02:36:13,980 --> 02:36:21,200
in to what a council meeting in April. We have two different meetings in April or you know it's

1917
02:36:21,200 --> 02:36:26,200
we're bringing this to you all for this session and then we're seeking direction from you all

1918
02:36:26,200 --> 02:36:29,220
on what the next steps on. Thank you, Michelle.

1919
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:36,480
And we would never bring a document to a council meeting

1920
02:36:36,480 --> 02:36:42,700
for approval without having all of it in there. We never bring anything to the

1921
02:36:42,700 --> 02:36:47,840
Thank you for explaining how the process will continue.

1922
02:36:48,480 --> 02:36:49,960
The numbers will be filled in.

1923
02:36:52,550 --> 02:36:52,650
Yes.

1924
02:36:52,650 --> 02:36:53,090
Anything else?

1925
02:36:56,490 --> 02:36:59,830
I think that's two and three minutes.

1926
02:37:00,150 --> 02:37:03,410
The most part of my question is, how would this affect our test service?

1927
02:37:04,290 --> 02:37:06,130
How does this change in our revenue?

1928
02:37:07,230 --> 02:37:09,390
Or possibly change in our revenue effect?

1929
02:37:10,050 --> 02:37:11,930
You know, what our credit reading is.

1930
02:37:11,930 --> 02:37:14,750
but I'm not ready to do that.

1931
02:37:14,830 --> 02:37:15,430
I'm ready to do that.

1932
02:37:16,090 --> 02:37:17,170
Yeah, all of that.

1933
02:37:17,250 --> 02:37:17,890
How is that?

1934
02:37:17,950 --> 02:37:19,390
Is that an exploreage?

1935
02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:20,330
Should that be explored?

1936
02:37:20,890 --> 02:37:22,090
Going to be detrimental to us.

1937
02:37:22,450 --> 02:37:23,730
If we lose this brevity source,

1938
02:37:23,890 --> 02:37:26,390
we're going to have an assessor build later on.

1939
02:37:27,210 --> 02:37:29,970
You know, and we're going to have to go back to the world of finance instead of seeing.

1940
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:38,000
Any cash, like we've been trying to do isn't supposed to know that. And then we would then have a less rating and it would cost us more money to make money.

1941
02:37:38,220 --> 02:37:41,300
Less revenue and higher expenses pretty much.

1942
02:37:41,420 --> 02:37:49,020
Or same expenses, but you know, we all know, expenses are going up. They're already going up faster than the revenue percentages that we're getting now.

1943
02:37:50,260 --> 02:37:53,580
Will create and they do with the S&P ratings for each.

1944
02:37:53,580 --> 02:38:00,080
Okay, is there a factual statement that could be compiled and put into this resolution, this resolution?

1945
02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:05,840
Oh, I can look at it. I just know when we went through the ads and key rating before, they looked at our financials.

1946
02:38:05,900 --> 02:38:15,140
They looked at future revenue. They looked at what that we're going for and why it typically wouldn't want to go for a 30 year debt for operational expenses.

1947
02:38:15,140 --> 02:38:22,640
because that doesn't work that way and the line of the finance of getting that, okay, you're

1948
02:38:22,640 --> 02:38:31,160
mostly going. So things would have to be shifted revenue would have to would still be coming in

1949
02:38:31,160 --> 02:38:38,540
at the lower rate, but there would be a gap between revenue and expenses. We would be working at

1950
02:38:39,940 --> 02:38:43,860
a loss, if there wasn't any impact, it would have to replace the relevant.

1951
02:38:44,400 --> 02:38:46,260
That might be the ongoing scope of this resolution.

1952
02:38:46,840 --> 02:38:46,980
Yeah.

1953
02:38:46,980 --> 02:38:50,080
We're getting agency involved in the application.

1954
02:38:50,780 --> 02:38:52,040
I have a fairly clear question.

1955
02:38:52,960 --> 02:38:53,060
Okay.

1956
02:38:53,060 --> 02:38:53,320
Okay.

1957
02:38:53,860 --> 02:38:56,460
We do have some residential advisors.

1958
02:38:56,700 --> 02:38:57,960
I couldn't see a way to make it.

1959
02:38:58,820 --> 02:39:00,880
You guys already thought about it or not.

1960
02:39:01,540 --> 02:39:01,900
I don't know.

1961
02:39:02,020 --> 02:39:03,620
There would actually affect the rating.

1962
02:39:03,940 --> 02:39:08,200
I think it's more going to affect the ability to raise the same amount of

1963
02:39:08,200 --> 02:39:13,260
I don't know if I need one of the action of the grocery tax.

1964
02:39:13,460 --> 02:39:14,420
Well, I need that.

1965
02:39:14,420 --> 02:39:15,180
We'll take a million.

1966
02:39:15,640 --> 02:39:18,500
This is the case on the side of the store and on roofs, the captions.

1967
02:39:20,240 --> 02:39:20,460
Yeah.

1968
02:39:21,100 --> 02:39:22,380
So that's actually a grocery system.

1969
02:39:22,780 --> 02:39:28,600
I mean, the ability to repay the debt would be hindered too.

1970
02:39:29,400 --> 02:39:31,600
So I will reach out to our financial advice.

1971
02:39:31,900 --> 02:39:32,820
Do you have a financial advice?

1972
02:39:32,820 --> 02:39:47,760
So second, my thing is, is section five, if you will, the gross revenue income, you know, or revenue income of $67 billion, we've already seen the fund of questions from citizens.

1973
02:39:48,500 --> 02:39:58,920
If your budget is $270 million, if your budget is $300 million, because everybody's factored in their carryover. So this carryover has already been income at one point and just bringing the budget.

1974
02:39:58,920 --> 02:40:04,340
And these projects get built out and kind of talked about that last week when we met us in the big room.

1975
02:40:05,460 --> 02:40:14,140
So I just wonder if there's a way to highlight the fact that our income to this community is what we're looking at.

1976
02:40:14,320 --> 02:40:15,780
This is what we're concerned with.

1977
02:40:15,960 --> 02:40:21,520
Not money that we have set aside for projects or the money that we have doing things that are sitting in the bank.

1978
02:40:22,500 --> 02:40:26,760
But and I know how we do that and I don't know how we make that biggest think of that biggest misconception.

1979
02:40:26,760 --> 02:40:31,980
even though our wonderful thing that went out to educate people about the budget in our

1980
02:40:31,980 --> 02:40:36,680
thought of the town is still have the gross number of $27 billion. And so that can be confusing

1981
02:40:36,680 --> 02:40:41,500
for people because they're looking at that as 1.5% and people are very fully doing the math,

1982
02:40:41,600 --> 02:40:46,040
and I'm like, well, this is a big of a number, but that's the issue. The issue is that our income is

1983
02:40:46,040 --> 02:40:53,300
only $67 million. And you take $11 or $13 million of $67 is a huge number when you take $11

1984
02:40:53,300 --> 02:40:55,100
and particularly in other such carryover,

1985
02:40:55,100 --> 02:40:56,240
so everything else added together,

1986
02:40:56,540 --> 02:40:57,220
it's a tiny number.

1987
02:40:57,740 --> 02:40:59,600
So how do we make that number more fun?

1988
02:41:01,220 --> 02:41:02,740
I guess that's not a question of the council.

1989
02:41:03,300 --> 02:41:04,480
And should that never be more prevalent?

1990
02:41:04,580 --> 02:41:06,920
Because of this information out there is tact on this.

1991
02:41:06,920 --> 02:41:08,560
This carryover inclusive number.

1992
02:41:08,840 --> 02:41:09,980
All right, I agree with that.

1993
02:41:09,980 --> 02:41:12,400
I mean, on the website, we talk about one percent

1994
02:41:12,400 --> 02:41:14,140
of a two and a eight six million dollars

1995
02:41:14,140 --> 02:41:15,280
which is not true.

1996
02:41:15,620 --> 02:41:16,920
And I'm not going to blame anybody.

1997
02:41:16,980 --> 02:41:18,740
Maybe there's somebody who's a false expression

1998
02:41:18,740 --> 02:41:20,660
and they know that, but the average says,

1999
02:41:20,780 --> 02:41:21,300
they know that.

2000
02:41:21,820 --> 02:41:22,560
They see our budget.

2001
02:41:22,560 --> 02:41:26,720
they see our open budget and it says this because everything's included in it.

2002
02:41:26,880 --> 02:41:30,180
So I just wonder how we can get out there and say that, you know, if there could be a statement

2003
02:41:30,180 --> 02:41:36,460
in here that says this town functions on an income base of X, you know, and then it does kind

2004
02:41:36,460 --> 02:41:44,200
of say that, but actually how do we better clarify that? So, and then lastly, this one's, you

2005
02:41:44,200 --> 02:41:49,540
know, touchy subject, but you know, for me, believe her not as a physical conservative,

2006
02:41:49,540 --> 02:41:52,560
I look at sales tax as an elective tax.

2007
02:41:53,120 --> 02:41:57,700
This is not something you're forced to pay as with property tax or the head tax or

2008
02:41:58,160 --> 02:42:00,900
a mink of tax or whatever, you can shop.

2009
02:42:01,040 --> 02:42:03,440
You can make a decision on where you want to go.

2010
02:42:03,840 --> 02:42:08,440
And I wonder if there's a section in here or a line in here that we can simply

2011
02:42:08,440 --> 02:42:11,720
state that this is an elective tax.

2012
02:42:12,520 --> 02:42:17,320
Because if there is a conservative tax, it would be a sales tax,

2013
02:42:17,320 --> 02:42:20,660
because it allows the citizen or the person

2014
02:42:20,660 --> 02:42:23,540
to make their decision on where they want to spend money.

2015
02:42:23,820 --> 02:42:24,840
You can't do that with the proper tax.

2016
02:42:25,000 --> 02:42:26,640
You can't do that with your income tax.

2017
02:42:26,740 --> 02:42:29,720
You can't do that with your master license plate tax.

2018
02:42:29,860 --> 02:42:33,000
The elective tax allows still for choice by the citizen.

2019
02:42:33,540 --> 02:42:34,560
And I think that's an important thing.

2020
02:42:34,640 --> 02:42:37,380
I believe that when you go back and talk to the founders

2021
02:42:37,380 --> 02:42:39,240
of this community, that was an important belief

2022
02:42:39,240 --> 02:42:40,420
but then too.

2023
02:42:40,780 --> 02:42:43,180
And I wonder if we can find out and Jim,

2024
02:42:43,220 --> 02:42:44,700
I don't know if you remember from back on the day,

2025
02:42:44,700 --> 02:42:48,420
But we set up this community of sales tax for a reason,

2026
02:42:48,760 --> 02:42:51,280
and not a middle-lead, yeah.

2027
02:42:52,040 --> 02:42:54,500
Together in large, large, large groups,

2028
02:42:54,620 --> 02:42:57,380
excuse me, a partner was isolated in other communities.

2029
02:42:57,940 --> 02:43:00,040
So they only placed a shop in the trade area,

2030
02:43:00,040 --> 02:43:00,780
and it was a partner.

2031
02:43:01,520 --> 02:43:03,920
And so how do you generate what that's

2032
02:43:03,920 --> 02:43:06,460
where I'm able to place the environment where we tax groceries?

2033
02:43:07,860 --> 02:43:11,480
That's definitely a case for a lot of people coming from the East,

2034
02:43:12,120 --> 02:43:14,340
and the Southeast, that partner is the place

2035
02:43:15,060 --> 02:43:17,100
And I don't know if it's appropriate council.

2036
02:43:18,060 --> 02:43:19,640
It's statement in this resolution.

2037
02:43:20,040 --> 02:43:21,120
It's a factual resolution.

2038
02:43:22,220 --> 02:43:24,560
But actually, those taxes are like to.

2039
02:43:24,560 --> 02:43:25,340
Versus mandatory.

2040
02:43:26,240 --> 02:43:26,920
Well, let's see.

2041
02:43:27,360 --> 02:43:28,900
I mean, I guess that that's a question.

2042
02:43:29,640 --> 02:43:31,960
I do want to do with something like that.

2043
02:43:31,960 --> 02:43:32,900
He's a resolution.

2044
02:43:34,080 --> 02:43:35,660
I think I think.

2045
02:43:36,260 --> 02:43:36,820
Yes.

2046
02:43:39,080 --> 02:43:39,480
I will.

2047
02:43:39,920 --> 02:43:40,140
I will.

2048
02:43:40,140 --> 02:43:40,420
Thank you.

2049
02:43:42,300 --> 02:43:42,980
Thank you.

2050
02:43:43,760 --> 02:43:50,060
I think I want to make it crystal clear so that there isn't room for interpretation and it's not this is what council saying

2051
02:43:50,060 --> 02:43:53,980
versus this is what other people are saying it's crystal clear these are what the numbers are.

2052
02:43:55,140 --> 02:43:57,560
So just not just not.

2053
02:43:57,840 --> 02:43:59,260
If you're willing to.

2054
02:44:00,360 --> 02:44:02,220
Not willing to charge.

2055
02:44:02,960 --> 02:44:03,480
Sorry.

2056
02:44:04,080 --> 02:44:04,520
That's fine.

2057
02:44:04,840 --> 02:44:06,980
That's fine.

2058
02:44:06,980 --> 02:44:11,980
But we're going to have a deal with them, but we're going to bring these down.

2059
02:44:12,360 --> 02:44:12,840
What?

2060
02:44:17,960 --> 02:44:28,940
I just really feel like if it's truly tax relief that this is after, but unintending consequences

2061
02:44:28,940 --> 02:44:40,400
this is going to create. If we do need to make up this laws with a property tax or additional

2062
02:44:40,400 --> 02:44:50,780
million of these, how catastrophic is this way to be or are already very expensive town

2063
02:44:50,780 --> 02:44:57,520
solid and for home ownership? I mean, the property tax, everybody's feeling that, you know, with

2064
02:44:57,520 --> 02:44:59,920
If everybody's property taxing has gone, it's significant.

2065
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:12,620
And if this has to get tacked onto that, again, I think it's going to be devastating to the people that are already known in Parker.

2066
02:45:14,040 --> 02:45:16,000
We've got to make up this last somewhere.

2067
02:45:18,160 --> 02:45:26,720
Do you think that this could the financial incentives that we are offering, for example, for a couple of foods?

2068
02:45:26,720 --> 02:45:33,060
Could they potentially pull out?

2069
02:45:33,300 --> 02:45:34,100
Mm-hmm.

2070
02:45:34,200 --> 02:45:35,160
Yeah, I think good.

2071
02:45:35,960 --> 02:45:41,720
I mean, and we're thinking about these were not just full foods or just it's the whole shopping area.

2072
02:45:41,920 --> 02:45:52,420
It's just not the grocery store that you're impacting you're impacting all the neighborhood commercial to support all the nuances that surround grocery stores without an anchor.

2073
02:45:52,420 --> 02:45:57,260
those don't get built. The grocery is the anchor that attracts the rest of the

2074
02:45:57,260 --> 02:46:02,380
really good retailers that you have. Both foods can pull out. If there's nothing,

2075
02:46:02,560 --> 02:46:07,900
we find it instead of a gray mat now, there's nothing to do with that.

2076
02:46:07,980 --> 02:46:14,440
That we can't pay back then when they get one of that, they just started doing

2077
02:46:14,440 --> 02:46:18,970
grading and showing up that greener way. So yeah, they can.

2078
02:46:19,690 --> 02:46:28,970
So not only will this be a material loss that's that's a real number today that we that we have.

2079
02:46:29,890 --> 02:46:34,570
The future that we can know that is could just be like food gone.

2080
02:46:36,070 --> 02:46:39,170
And I think there are so many people that are trying to about that.

2081
02:46:39,310 --> 02:46:42,970
Or because I think that would be just a scary thought.

2082
02:46:42,970 --> 02:46:51,790
It is the number one retailer that these citizens have asked for since I've worked for them to come to Burger.

2083
02:46:52,370 --> 02:46:52,990
It's just not.

2084
02:46:53,470 --> 02:46:53,690
All right.

2085
02:46:53,730 --> 02:46:55,270
It's just not all because it's all the girls.

2086
02:46:55,270 --> 02:46:55,690
Right.

2087
02:46:55,850 --> 02:46:57,310
We got busiest passcode.

2088
02:46:57,310 --> 02:46:58,290
That's all we put in the game.

2089
02:46:58,650 --> 02:46:59,230
The state.

2090
02:46:59,570 --> 02:47:03,170
We've got one of the busiest king supers in the state.

2091
02:47:03,450 --> 02:47:05,970
We've got one of the busiest king supers in the state.

2092
02:47:05,970 --> 02:47:07,310
We've got three of the busiest.

2093
02:47:08,390 --> 02:47:12,070
Because I know that's one of the reasons they granted the full liquor license to the

2094
02:47:14,030 --> 02:47:18,490
And that one is what for us more from the surrounding.

2095
02:47:19,670 --> 02:47:22,010
And in fact at the Arapoh and Parker's story,

2096
02:47:22,190 --> 02:47:23,610
they lost the history of people.

2097
02:47:23,770 --> 02:47:26,390
They're doing from the north down to the continent.

2098
02:47:27,290 --> 02:47:31,750
Yeah, that's what we looked at the cumulative number because it's not 13 or 14 a year.

2099
02:47:31,890 --> 02:47:34,150
It's 13 or 14 million every year.

2100
02:47:35,190 --> 02:47:36,670
And that's why I run it.

2101
02:47:36,890 --> 02:47:39,290
But in, for example, 2036 or 2035,

2102
02:47:39,290 --> 02:47:41,750
That would be $279 million.

2103
02:47:42,610 --> 02:47:44,550
And that was the semi, one percent.

2104
02:47:44,830 --> 02:47:47,270
I'm glad you're glad you're glad you're glad you're glad.

2105
02:47:47,270 --> 02:47:48,330
Yeah, I deeper into it down.

2106
02:47:48,570 --> 02:47:48,590
Good.

2107
02:47:48,590 --> 02:47:50,950
One percent throughout the years.

2108
02:47:52,070 --> 02:47:56,210
And as it relates to cottonwood cane supers was not interested in tearing down that

2109
02:47:56,210 --> 02:48:00,330
and making soar and redeveloping it unless the town was well

2110
02:48:01,030 --> 02:48:04,330
and from the urban renewal and the town.

2111
02:48:04,570 --> 02:48:04,890
That's been perfect.

2112
02:48:05,590 --> 02:48:07,070
And that's how we got that then.

2113
02:48:08,710 --> 02:48:13,850
And the sharebacks are only reimbursements of sales tax collected.

2114
02:48:14,870 --> 02:48:19,150
So if they don't perform sales tax, then they don't get anything back.

2115
02:48:19,650 --> 02:48:22,470
So it's not out of any other revenue source.

2116
02:48:22,750 --> 02:48:25,630
It's 100% based on the sales tax that's written into the town.

2117
02:48:30,390 --> 02:48:30,730
All right.

2118
02:48:30,950 --> 02:48:31,830
Thank you.

2119
02:48:32,070 --> 02:48:32,590
Yeah.

2120
02:48:32,830 --> 02:48:37,230
I mean, I think you and Josh kind of touched on feedback, future impacts.

2121
02:48:37,230 --> 02:48:43,790
I don't think part of why it's a decision at this point, kind of address them, and I think

2122
02:48:43,790 --> 02:48:50,950
I think there's some in here, but broad brush, but in terms of the Parliament, I guess,

2123
02:48:51,090 --> 02:48:57,410
bravely, how it impacts certain departments, I think that you had to go through the process

2124
02:48:57,410 --> 02:49:03,650
to truly identify that, what would that process be to talk about, to take too much of

2125
02:49:03,650 --> 02:49:09,090
you didn't want through that in the time lines of student. Well, the intention could have something like that.

2126
02:49:10,370 --> 02:49:15,630
So, there's a couple of different things. Everyone is, you know, every year in June to lie,

2127
02:49:16,090 --> 02:49:23,150
we do the update at 2 to 10-year financial plan. So we'll have the new finance director coming

2128
02:49:23,150 --> 02:49:28,950
on the way to the public way. And Chris and she'll get to use a lot of things on that with

2129
02:49:28,950 --> 02:49:36,550
departments and we're on the listing on the 10-year plan. It would be my recommendation to do two

2130
02:49:37,910 --> 02:49:46,710
plans and have one assuming how we are right now and then one with the 10-year plan assuming that

2131
02:49:50,610 --> 02:49:57,610
having the 10-year plan without the grocery tax sales tax. And so that would be kicking

2132
02:49:57,610 --> 02:50:20,630
not pretty soon here. And then same thing with the budget. Now, with regards to the impact in the apartments, as we're on the doesn't get us to shut it, we know what that percentage is that that's the department. So we know what percentage for each department is funded for ourselves, actually, we're all we know that percentage of that would be the grocery talk.

2133
02:50:20,630 --> 02:50:34,890
Yeah, it would be a policy discussion of council in terms of the door that seems to have in terms of how we take the approach of what the impact is to the departments.

2134
02:50:35,310 --> 02:50:42,490
Part of the direction we're giving protection recommendations off of the policy direction we receive the council.

2135
02:50:42,490 --> 02:50:56,430
So I would say that in order for me to go back to the departments and say, you need to reduce your budgets with the assumption of the grocery tax petition going through.

2136
02:50:56,630 --> 02:51:12,030
If you put on the ballot in the impact in 2020, but it's to get that direction from counsel saying, okay, you know, that's 14% on all these different departments is it taking up 14% or is it saying, okay, we're going to impact this department more.

2137
02:51:12,030 --> 02:51:17,130
and this could permit us that we would need policy direction from cows in what are approach

2138
02:51:17,130 --> 02:51:23,070
to be to make those adjustments. Now, with the tenure plan, that's on cheesier because that's

2139
02:51:23,630 --> 02:51:30,270
a reduction whole new line and flows through. In terms of the suit budgets, I would recommend

2140
02:51:30,270 --> 02:51:36,390
doing that. That's what long-treated this past November. They went up to, you know, by November,

2141
02:51:36,650 --> 02:51:40,610
you need to know what your budget's going to be or a periodary by that. It has to work with

2142
02:51:40,610 --> 02:51:48,230
there is usually in second quarter, but to have two budgets running forward so that we know what

2143
02:51:48,230 --> 02:51:53,790
we're going to be approving kind of emperor after, you know, that makes it unvalid to be not too

2144
02:51:53,790 --> 02:51:59,390
budget. So obviously too, with the new financial director, we're going to be looking at a different

2145
02:51:59,390 --> 02:52:05,390
budget process and have a lot more communication with the departments and with you all and

2146
02:52:05,390 --> 02:52:10,590
to work on that. So that helped to the extent of, yeah, I mean, it's kind of wanted to

2147
02:52:10,590 --> 02:52:16,990
for content kind of know at one point what you potentially have more direct

2148
02:52:16,990 --> 02:52:21,690
of attention impacts, I think, just, you know, people are asked whether people are assuming

2149
02:52:21,690 --> 02:52:26,150
or you know, it's going to impact, it's not going to impact certain departments.

2150
02:52:27,670 --> 02:52:29,390
It's, it's a great challenging.

2151
02:52:30,850 --> 02:52:48,410
To have a discussion on that, as an elected person, it didn't be very challenging to me individually. To have a conversation and say yes or no, to any of that until until we have that. So I think this will be happening, again, the back base.

2152
02:52:49,810 --> 02:52:57,810
And as long as we can demonstrate the process to my input out there, I think it creates context on what we're really talking about.

2153
02:52:57,810 --> 02:53:16,690
You know, I think the next steps are going to be, you know, based off on the larger percentage, people are going to want to know how to send it back to me and I have some questions and I don't think it's responsible for the ask you at this point in time, but I think that's when it comes.

2154
02:53:17,190 --> 02:53:23,510
Yeah, I mean, and that's that's part of that too, as you know, it is March and we don't

2155
02:53:23,510 --> 02:53:29,970
usually start our budget process yet. We know what that dollar amount is that could be

2156
02:53:29,970 --> 02:53:34,750
the biggest, I mean, 14% of the labels that it actually would all earn out, that's what it is.

2157
02:53:35,050 --> 02:53:42,230
But where we take those funds from, yeah, it's going to hurt. And so it needs to be very

2158
02:53:42,230 --> 02:53:53,530
the process and having those discussions with you all, and the department, also, because there is that morality and students have to take these courage and what's not.

2159
02:53:54,510 --> 02:53:54,790
Thank you.

2160
02:53:54,970 --> 02:54:00,190
Yeah, I would say there's been a lot of talk about how departments are impacted or could be impacted.

2161
02:54:00,550 --> 02:54:05,930
I should say, but it gets her not that point that there's things we need to address, but definitely something to say.

2162
02:54:05,930 --> 02:54:09,050
And as far as the resolution though,

2163
02:54:09,070 --> 02:54:11,430
I do agree that carry over is a little more information

2164
02:54:11,430 --> 02:54:14,570
to explain to the public because that's

2165
02:54:14,570 --> 02:54:15,670
great confusing some.

2166
02:54:16,430 --> 02:54:19,990
And then maybe more emphasis on incentives

2167
02:54:19,990 --> 02:54:22,810
on people who want certain businesses here

2168
02:54:22,810 --> 02:54:27,490
and what we do to collect revenue is important for that process.

2169
02:54:29,490 --> 02:54:30,470
And then,

2170
02:54:32,960 --> 02:54:35,320
so it's 13 million in revenue

2171
02:54:35,320 --> 02:54:41,660
for the whole 3% sales tax is getting parking right right and then but it's only 11, there's 11 million

2172
02:54:41,660 --> 02:54:51,360
for the tune after sound. Okay, so that's not quite real solution related but the committee says

2173
02:54:51,360 --> 02:54:57,460
it's just 3 million here. Do we know where they got that number come to and do any data this

2174
02:54:57,460 --> 02:55:08,580
For example, I don't know what the answer is.

2175
02:55:08,580 --> 02:55:09,520
But it's incredible.

2176
02:55:10,120 --> 02:55:12,120
We're trying to just provide the information.

2177
02:55:12,660 --> 02:55:13,020
All right.

2178
02:55:13,400 --> 02:55:16,280
There might be some information out there.

2179
02:55:16,340 --> 02:55:18,340
I mean, we're just trying to create.

2180
02:55:19,060 --> 02:55:20,120
As best as we can.

2181
02:55:20,420 --> 02:55:21,860
Here's what we have.

2182
02:55:22,720 --> 02:55:27,380
I don't know if we know everything about.

2183
02:55:27,380 --> 02:55:34,480
with people are saying, I mean, it just, it'd be a very challenging to try to, I mean,

2184
02:55:34,680 --> 02:55:39,920
with this information, people can look at it, maybe disagree on a approach or disagree

2185
02:55:39,920 --> 02:55:46,720
on how we, how we thought they're. But this is, we're just trying to buy the information on

2186
02:55:46,720 --> 02:55:55,320
So people can have, and what they do with it is, I think, they can agree, they disagree.

2187
02:55:57,160 --> 02:55:58,280
I don't agree.

2188
02:56:01,640 --> 02:56:10,020
So for me, the only thing kind of getting back to me, I think, Josh, the general fund again,

2189
02:56:10,060 --> 02:56:15,720
looking at our budget, you know, I think Josh's, Josh's question about

2190
02:56:15,720 --> 02:56:24,020
about the big numbers of open budget carry-overs, go to the fun method, the fun accounting

2191
02:56:24,020 --> 02:56:32,240
method of how governmental entities operate. It's just different than everybody. I mean,

2192
02:56:32,240 --> 02:56:38,340
if out there, if you're doing feet to coffee, and you have $270 million dollars of revenue,

2193
02:56:39,040 --> 02:56:45,160
you can probably use that however you want. And, unfortunately, in our case, we're fortunate

2194
02:56:46,860 --> 02:56:53,900
It's restrictive, unrestricted, it's one time, it's ongoing, and that's one of those things.

2195
02:56:55,260 --> 02:56:58,760
You have to understand the funding, probably, kind of understand the most large numbers.

2196
02:56:59,280 --> 02:57:11,000
But you've got to put aside those larger numbers and go to the general fund page 38 or 2024 annual budget, which in case it's the main operating fund of the town operations.

2197
02:57:11,000 --> 02:57:16,980
So, I have a question on page level, on your site,

2198
02:57:17,580 --> 02:57:20,020
I have option 2, so that's sad.

2199
02:57:21,500 --> 02:57:29,660
So, tax on groceries average 13.6% general fund for years 2021, 2021, 2021, 2021.

2200
02:57:29,680 --> 02:57:35,220
Looking at the general fund, even though it's sudden, I mean, it gets the towns

2201
02:57:35,220 --> 02:57:43,540
in operating sales tax property tax other taxes for 2024 or about 65 million. The total revenue

2202
02:57:43,540 --> 02:57:52,120
was about 81 million. I'm sorry, where are you at? I'm on seven or eight. I'm on

2203
02:57:52,120 --> 02:57:54,720
one, I'm on one, I'm on one, I'm on one, I'm on one, I'm on one, I'm on one, I'm on one, I'm on one,

2204
02:57:54,720 --> 02:57:59,680
the elimination of tax on the grocery is a tax good one, so I'm going to encourage you to

2205
02:57:59,680 --> 02:58:01,520
I mean it's kind of dictate.

2206
02:58:02,160 --> 02:58:03,860
How do you rate ifans on which risk is it?

2207
02:58:03,860 --> 02:58:04,980
I think you need to get far,

2208
02:58:05,540 --> 02:58:08,240
when you put them in case you'rema go home.

2209
02:58:08,440 --> 02:58:10,820
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you're gonna get it again.

2210
02:58:11,100 --> 02:58:16,500
It's gonna have to be a me thing, but it average 13.6 is general fund.

2211
02:58:16,740 --> 02:58:20,660
So, tax on university average 13.6 is general fund revenue.

2212
02:58:21,700 --> 02:58:24,740
I mean, I mean, I look at the general fund.

2213
02:58:24,980 --> 02:58:26,820
I mean, that sort of operations fund,

2214
02:58:26,820 --> 02:58:32,040
but sales property and other taxes are the most unrestricted,

2215
02:58:32,060 --> 02:58:34,240
the most discretionary, if you know.

2216
02:58:35,600 --> 02:58:37,680
So if you think so, I can find ways your tax,

2217
02:58:37,840 --> 02:58:39,100
your own bridge, shitter pack,

2218
02:58:39,660 --> 02:58:41,940
those really aren't unrestricted,

2219
02:58:42,800 --> 02:58:44,560
or those are, you have to use those

2220
02:58:44,560 --> 02:58:45,820
for specific requirements.

2221
02:58:48,780 --> 02:58:52,920
We just be doing percentage of sales tax,

2222
02:58:52,980 --> 02:58:55,560
percentage of grocery tax to sales tax,

2223
02:58:55,560 --> 02:59:01,240
percentage of grocery tax to total tax or might just creating an alphabet

2224
02:59:01,240 --> 02:59:02,980
student here and with this question.

2225
02:59:03,900 --> 02:59:07,940
The exhibit is 19.1, if you averaged the three, I'd never just went

2226
02:59:07,940 --> 02:59:23,320
22 and 23 because it's 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, so 19.1% is where it's the taxable, it's

2227
02:59:23,320 --> 02:59:32,320
the number average between the three years of jet sales tax. 13.6 is a false and real

2228
02:59:32,320 --> 02:59:41,260
time revenue. Okay. Okay. I think that's, I mean, I think that's, that's all I

2229
02:59:41,260 --> 02:59:48,540
have. So to me, I think, oh, Brandy, have another question. Well, we're kind of, you're, you're

2230
02:59:48,540 --> 02:59:54,760
on it and Josh touched on it and it's about the, you know, what looks like a huge,

2231
02:59:54,760 --> 02:59:59,160
overcarried from one year to the other, but it's really like an emergency fun and a savings and

2232
02:59:59,160 --> 02:59:59,960
allocated and...

2233
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:12,000
You know, the research did, and I just want to get clarifications, so that people don't look at a surplus and think that it's just extra money lying around. I want to get very clear on what those funds are allocated for and what they can and can't be used for.

2234
03:00:13,300 --> 03:00:15,660
In the resolution, are you asking me that in general?

2235
03:00:15,660 --> 03:00:23,400
I'm following, but I think she's after two is the other two hundred million, the restrictive

2236
03:00:23,400 --> 03:00:23,880
folks.

2237
03:00:24,220 --> 03:00:29,260
Yeah, this is how do we let folks know that those monies have already been rather, they've

2238
03:00:29,260 --> 03:00:32,780
already been in, well, or they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're

2239
03:00:32,780 --> 03:00:32,940
are.

2240
03:00:33,120 --> 03:00:36,960
Right, I just want clarification with us, and it's not often I sometimes, so that's

2241
03:00:36,960 --> 03:00:37,480
awesome.

2242
03:00:38,620 --> 03:00:39,200
I'm following.

2243
03:00:40,600 --> 03:00:41,600
Well, it's different.

2244
03:00:42,200 --> 03:00:45,520
No, I mean, to me, you know, I think the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the

2245
03:00:45,520 --> 03:00:50,520
some groceries is a, is an ongoing revenue stream that funds the average 10.

2246
03:00:51,900 --> 03:00:56,580
You know, that goes to the process and that's largely salaries and purchase services.

2247
03:00:58,060 --> 03:01:03,400
We do have some capital funds or capital that comes through there.

2248
03:01:03,660 --> 03:01:10,600
Do we contribute to the vehicle fund from the general fund?

2249
03:01:11,160 --> 03:01:11,460
Yes.

2250
03:01:11,460 --> 03:01:14,880
for the plate replacement? Yeah. So that buys police cars.

2251
03:01:15,160 --> 03:01:20,760
Yes. Very nice. Yeah. So yeah. I mean, we, we, that's, and again, when, when we start

2252
03:01:20,760 --> 03:01:28,560
growing, that, that big number goes away because we don't get any of that money for the developers

2253
03:01:29,140 --> 03:01:37,640
to help us pay for, pay for things, for road infrastructure. Yeah. Road reconstruction is on us

2254
03:01:37,640 --> 03:01:45,540
at least today. No one must get us money to reconstruct or roast because that's a maintenance

2255
03:01:45,540 --> 03:01:51,640
issue largely. So one of those developer funds, a lot of the, I mean, thought of

2256
03:01:51,640 --> 03:01:58,960
scouting, part of it then went dry and settled, great partners. Projects like that, in order

2257
03:01:58,960 --> 03:02:05,860
to get our allocations not to come from exercise tax, which is a growth tax. That's for one time

2258
03:02:05,860 --> 03:02:12,120
projects is going to have to come from marching savings from the jails.

2259
03:02:12,460 --> 03:02:17,520
And yes, I understand that I just want to make sure that the general public that doesn't

2260
03:02:17,520 --> 03:02:20,720
see our budget date and then date, I understand that.

2261
03:02:20,780 --> 03:02:27,660
I mean, there's the pie charts that were in last week's presentation that can, instead

2262
03:02:27,660 --> 03:02:31,580
of just lifting, I mean, the numbers out and then show the pie charts as an exhibit.

2263
03:02:31,580 --> 03:02:39,660
I don't know, or if there's just a definition of, like, hey, this excess money that is allocating already for x, y and z or something like that, just a very general.

2264
03:02:39,920 --> 03:02:40,940
I'm sorry.

2265
03:02:41,080 --> 03:02:41,620
No, you're good.

2266
03:02:41,760 --> 03:02:43,440
I think the picture could be interesting.

2267
03:02:43,840 --> 03:02:44,500
It's easy.

2268
03:02:44,560 --> 03:02:45,260
It's a story.

2269
03:02:45,600 --> 03:02:45,740
Yeah.

2270
03:02:45,820 --> 03:02:46,680
You think that's the best?

2271
03:02:46,900 --> 03:02:47,500
I don't know.

2272
03:02:47,600 --> 03:02:47,940
The mechanism.

2273
03:02:48,140 --> 03:02:50,260
I just want to clear on.

2274
03:02:50,300 --> 03:02:51,340
What we shouldn't read.

2275
03:02:51,620 --> 03:02:52,720
Nobody's going to read all of it.

2276
03:02:52,940 --> 03:02:53,500
That is the joke.

2277
03:02:54,100 --> 03:02:55,600
Just focus on the joke.

2278
03:02:56,540 --> 03:02:57,180
That's what we have.

2279
03:02:57,400 --> 03:03:00,000
I mean, that's really the essence of what we're saying.

2280
03:03:00,000 --> 03:03:04,240
I know, I know, we know that in the six of us here are aware of that.

2281
03:03:04,260 --> 03:03:07,200
I'm just trying to get the information out there to the sense that it's a victim.

2282
03:03:08,140 --> 03:03:09,260
This is what we got.

2283
03:03:09,460 --> 03:03:10,520
This is what we got.

2284
03:03:10,520 --> 03:03:11,320
This is what we got.

2285
03:03:11,420 --> 03:03:11,660
Great.

2286
03:03:11,840 --> 03:03:13,100
But we can add that to that.

2287
03:03:13,360 --> 03:03:13,440
That's right.

2288
03:03:13,600 --> 03:03:13,840
Yeah.

2289
03:03:14,500 --> 03:03:14,660
Yeah.

2290
03:03:14,880 --> 03:03:18,180
This gets 11 to 12 pages with.

2291
03:03:18,280 --> 03:03:18,500
Exactly.

2292
03:03:19,400 --> 03:03:20,200
So we.

2293
03:03:21,040 --> 03:03:22,060
There's a great point.

2294
03:03:22,300 --> 03:03:24,140
We are currently working on.

2295
03:03:24,680 --> 03:03:24,980
Exactly.

2296
03:03:25,100 --> 03:03:26,560
What you're talking about explaining.

2297
03:03:26,560 --> 03:03:32,080
I mean, some of the copyrights explaining the general fund or checking account for the

2298
03:03:32,080 --> 03:03:36,340
imperfect, but the best metaphor we have versus all or nongeneral funds, which are kind of

2299
03:03:36,340 --> 03:03:41,420
our safety signals. Again, it's not perfect, but that's not what it is. We are comparing

2300
03:03:42,920 --> 03:03:50,080
some accessible documentation online and in print, so people can understand better and what

2301
03:03:50,080 --> 03:03:53,200
what we're all these different funds go because the government accounting is really weird

2302
03:03:54,620 --> 03:03:57,220
So that is coming shortly.

2303
03:03:58,740 --> 03:04:04,900
That's up to you all of course, but I don't know if that's fit in the resolution, as you said, it's already 12 something pages.

2304
03:04:05,560 --> 03:04:08,520
But there are some more user-friendly colorful.

2305
03:04:08,920 --> 03:04:12,480
Some of the learning phase that will become clearer shortly.

2306
03:04:15,160 --> 03:04:22,500
So I guess we have should we go move forward with this resolution.

2307
03:04:22,500 --> 03:04:34,480
or a resolution at a future day to show men and then which resolution should so let's talk about

2308
03:04:34,480 --> 03:04:43,200
which resolution it's going to be a resolution I think one which is opposition and two which is just

2309
03:04:44,180 --> 03:04:49,400
Yeah, I heard you, well, I had

2310
03:04:51,420 --> 03:04:55,440
changed. I was in favor of the opposition resolution.

2311
03:04:56,420 --> 03:05:03,200
But I believe that we just need to state the facts, because this is a,

2312
03:05:04,660 --> 03:05:13,920
there is anything to go against has to proceed. Yeah, this is just an opportunity to help our citizens better understand their budget and their revenue

2313
03:05:14,680 --> 03:05:23,000
And so I am leading towards just a defactual resolution to help the citizens better understand how they're taught term operates.

2314
03:05:23,660 --> 03:05:31,520
If a later date we need to have a decision resolution as a counsel that would be happy to entertain something like that.

2315
03:05:31,520 --> 03:05:38,660
But at this point, I believe that we are better off in just having a factual resolution to state what it is our budget is.

2316
03:05:38,660 --> 03:05:43,200
process. Can you tell me why you know the change of

2317
03:05:43,200 --> 03:05:47,300
heart? Because the opposition and because that you

2318
03:05:47,300 --> 03:05:50,760
were pretty. I know I was. I thought about it all at the

2319
03:05:50,760 --> 03:05:56,180
screenbreak and and if we come out in my opinion, whether

2320
03:05:56,180 --> 03:06:00,060
or not we agree with what people are doing, whether or not

2321
03:06:00,060 --> 03:06:03,500
we trust that it's a factual statement between now that the

2322
03:06:03,500 --> 03:06:06,620
council takes a position in opposition to get citizens that I

2323
03:06:06,620 --> 03:06:16,660
issue. I'm worried about that. I'm worried about us coming out and saying, you know, back. We don't

2324
03:06:16,660 --> 03:06:22,420
have to state that it's wrong. We can state that it's wrong when we have a better grasp on what

2325
03:06:22,420 --> 03:06:27,520
it's going to cost different departments. Or when there is a ballot issue, but as of right now,

2326
03:06:28,540 --> 03:06:34,020
I think it's better for us as a town to come out and say, these are the facts and just the facts.

2327
03:06:34,020 --> 03:06:38,200
And if there are people who want to go out there with these facts and argue with each other online,

2328
03:06:38,400 --> 03:06:44,600
they're great. But for us to come out and state that this, we are not positioned of

2329
03:06:44,600 --> 03:06:50,700
people collecting signatures. I have a little bit of a, I think we'll issue it back in a moment.

2330
03:06:51,440 --> 03:07:04,000
I don't think that that's what we're opposed to is people collecting signatures. I think that we all

2331
03:07:04,000 --> 03:07:10,400
But I think that we should come out and get ahead of this,

2332
03:07:11,260 --> 03:07:13,720
because this is a terrible thing for the general.

2333
03:07:13,760 --> 03:07:14,540
No, I don't know.

2334
03:07:14,540 --> 03:07:17,560
I fully agree, that's what I totally not get ahead of it,

2335
03:07:17,560 --> 03:07:21,180
because I think that, like I said in our last session,

2336
03:07:21,720 --> 03:07:24,520
our obligation is to our citizens.

2337
03:07:32,980 --> 03:07:37,000
Thank you. So, I give it a go ahead.

2338
03:07:39,020 --> 03:07:50,560
But, I feel that as an elected official, we are elected because, you know, like the town

2339
03:07:50,560 --> 03:07:57,140
represents, who wants us to be their voice. Well, we're elected to be the voice, and I think this

2340
03:07:57,140 --> 03:08:26,920
Why team harmed our constituents citizens, so more than they are even aware, so if we can't get ahead of this, then I also, I agree, I do want to get there with it and I believe our citizens are looking for a particular position on it, but I also want to have a united counts, and I want it to be unanimous and six oh that these are the facts, if we are a whole fast to

2341
03:08:26,920 --> 03:08:33,060
position, we will be possibly a 14 vote and that doesn't carry as much waiting to be as

2342
03:08:33,060 --> 03:08:35,980
a council that's united in the state of the tax.

2343
03:08:36,860 --> 03:08:42,100
We'd rather have the 6-0 in the tax than 14 in the position.

2344
03:08:43,240 --> 03:08:46,720
And I don't know whether that John was very smart and he started with me.

2345
03:08:48,540 --> 03:08:49,480
All right, Laura.

2346
03:08:55,800 --> 03:08:59,480
The issue has not on the ballot yet.

2347
03:09:00,700 --> 03:09:05,340
The group, I think it's Parker citizens, prepare taxes if I'm not correct.

2348
03:09:07,260 --> 03:09:11,040
This issue may or may not get on the ballot.

2349
03:09:11,560 --> 03:09:15,220
We will find out at the end of August.

2350
03:09:18,680 --> 03:09:20,640
There's two issues here,

2351
03:09:22,990 --> 03:09:28,610
the Parker Charter and the Colorado Constitution allow a citizen ballot initiative.

2352
03:09:29,510 --> 03:09:35,910
Colorado is one of 24 states that allows a citizen initiative ballot measure.

2353
03:09:40,590 --> 03:09:45,490
This has not made the ballot yet. This is not certified by the town clerk yet.

2354
03:09:45,490 --> 03:09:54,630
We will not find out whether this is certified by the town clerk until maybe August the end of August sometime or near the end of August.

2355
03:09:58,290 --> 03:10:08,210
This grocery tax issue was not a majority vote to put on the ballot three years ago.

2356
03:10:09,650 --> 03:10:16,750
As a result, a group of citizens in the town are now coming forward to try to put this issue on the ballot.

2357
03:10:18,920 --> 03:10:27,100
We are elected officials, we have a duty to support our citizens, the Parker Charter, the Colorado Constitution.

2358
03:10:28,620 --> 03:10:36,860
We also have a duty to put out accurate information on how the town actually works, what the town's budget is.

2359
03:10:39,160 --> 03:10:43,700
And that's what we're talking about here tonight with our finance department.

2360
03:10:44,700 --> 03:10:55,790
So, going forward, we can put out the facts right now that the town has presented to the public.

2361
03:10:58,010 --> 03:11:11,390
And also, should this matter make the ballot, the 60,000, 60,000,000 citizens of Parker Colerado, will decide this measure, not the Parker town council.

2362
03:11:12,670 --> 03:11:16,830
And let me just be clear on what a resolution actually is tonight.

2363
03:11:17,390 --> 03:11:18,270
It is not an ordinance.

2364
03:11:19,670 --> 03:11:23,190
It has very limited impact here tonight.

2365
03:11:23,730 --> 03:11:28,680
This resolution is a statement of general policy or information.

2366
03:11:29,430 --> 03:11:30,310
That's what it is.

2367
03:11:30,370 --> 03:11:32,910
That's what we're putting out here tonight.

2368
03:11:33,710 --> 03:11:38,730
So, in my opinion, if you want to put out information tonight

2369
03:11:38,730 --> 03:11:42,790
for the town to understand, I would go with option two, which is neutral,

2370
03:11:45,120 --> 03:11:46,580
this has not made

2371
03:11:46,580 --> 03:11:47,060
the ballot.

2372
03:11:47,400 --> 03:11:48,260
This is March.

2373
03:11:48,420 --> 03:11:51,620
We will find out if this makes the ballot in August.

2374
03:11:53,460 --> 03:11:59,920
And we will continue this process to talk about the budget in this town to put out information.

2375
03:12:01,060 --> 03:12:05,540
But our citizens have every right under the Colorado Constitution and the Parker Charter

2376
03:12:05,540 --> 03:12:08,700
to bring this citizen ballot initiative.

2377
03:12:22,980 --> 03:12:38,060
The reason people elect elected officials is to be their voice for them and to help them understand and kind of make the talk decisions on what's waiting, what's wrong and what's best for the town because it was easy to have anyone to do it.

2378
03:12:38,060 --> 03:12:42,060
I have to look at the morale and not the moral of our people.

2379
03:12:42,340 --> 03:12:43,960
I have to look at the morale of our staff.

2380
03:12:44,780 --> 03:12:46,740
I have to look at the morale of our police officers.

2381
03:12:47,240 --> 03:12:56,440
I have to look at the morale of the people who are sitting here panicked because they know in a very intimate way what a budget cut will do to that.

2382
03:12:56,440 --> 03:12:58,880
What it will do to their department, what it will do to their salaries.

2383
03:12:59,560 --> 03:13:06,220
They're unknown right now and they're relying heavily on us to be the ones to say like, hey,

2384
03:13:06,220 --> 03:13:12,560
We understand, we're looking out for what's best for our town, we're looking out what's best for our people.

2385
03:13:13,080 --> 03:13:15,660
I don't want people to start like rats on a sinking ship.

2386
03:13:15,660 --> 03:13:22,200
I don't want them to start running and fleeing because they think that they don't have council support in protecting them from this initiative.

2387
03:13:23,060 --> 03:13:27,980
And it doesn't matter what we say or do tonight, they're going to move forward with their signatures.

2388
03:13:28,240 --> 03:13:28,920
That's not the point of this.

2389
03:13:29,440 --> 03:13:34,820
This is not to stop somebody's legal right to petition to put stuff on a ballot.

2390
03:13:34,820 --> 03:13:37,840
Because it doesn't matter what we say, it's not going to stop them anyways.

2391
03:13:38,100 --> 03:13:39,340
So this isn't about that.

2392
03:13:39,880 --> 03:13:46,480
This is about showing our town, staff, and our town employees, and the people who elect us

2393
03:13:46,480 --> 03:13:51,340
are constituents that we have their best interest at heart, because we are the ones that are

2394
03:13:51,340 --> 03:13:52,840
doing this day in and day out.

2395
03:13:53,060 --> 03:13:57,200
And we have wrote resolutions in the past when it came down to the land use bill.

2396
03:13:57,540 --> 03:14:01,220
We knew how bad that was going to be and how detrimental that was going to be to our town.

2397
03:14:01,220 --> 03:14:04,840
And we made a resolution saying, we are 100% against this.

2398
03:14:05,420 --> 03:14:09,100
So it doesn't matter if we want to say neutral.

2399
03:14:09,340 --> 03:14:10,400
And we're going to be forced.

2400
03:14:10,400 --> 03:14:12,580
We're already forced to have this conversation.

2401
03:14:12,880 --> 03:14:14,920
We're already back to end to a corner of,

2402
03:14:15,120 --> 03:14:17,100
hey, guys, we're coming after your town.

2403
03:14:17,240 --> 03:14:18,180
We're coming after the budget.

2404
03:14:18,240 --> 03:14:19,260
We're coming after your departments.

2405
03:14:19,360 --> 03:14:20,420
We're coming after your police.

2406
03:14:20,700 --> 03:14:21,660
And I'm sorry.

2407
03:14:21,800 --> 03:14:24,080
I want to write a resolution right now.

2408
03:14:24,280 --> 03:14:25,340
Not for the people of pressure,

2409
03:14:25,520 --> 03:14:27,040
but for our staff and for our police officers

2410
03:14:27,040 --> 03:14:28,240
to say, we've got your back.

2411
03:14:28,280 --> 03:14:29,980
We're going to do what we have to do

2412
03:14:29,980 --> 03:14:35,520
to protect our town and to protect you guys. So, I want to write in opposition.

2413
03:14:38,680 --> 03:14:38,980
I'd

2414
03:14:41,790 --> 03:14:47,490
like to do one record that I have never said and I don't think that I've heard anyone

2415
03:14:47,490 --> 03:14:53,710
else on council state that the citizens don't have a right to their own initiative or to collect

2416
03:14:53,710 --> 03:14:59,970
signatures. I've never heard anybody say that. But so that is just for a

2417
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:01,460
The very clear record.

2418
03:15:03,900 --> 03:15:29,840
And yeah, we're not voting against this. I mean, what I want to, and I just want to be clear, that to be back on what council member Wilkes said, yes, of course, we want to keep up morale. We, you know, that's I think that's all great. But bottom line is the reason people move here in a parker are for the amenities that we have.

2419
03:15:30,000 --> 03:15:36,540
parks and wrecks. You know, our, I think everybody was pretty happy, not everybody would

2420
03:15:36,540 --> 03:15:41,760
how the roads were plowed a couple weeks ago. You know, that was a huge storm.

2421
03:15:43,140 --> 03:15:52,280
But this would be so detrimental to the town. I, I feel that we need to absolutely come

2422
03:15:52,280 --> 03:16:00,820
with a back based with all of that. But I also personally, I am, I want to come out in

2423
03:16:00,820 --> 03:16:08,800
opposition and let my constituents know that I am opposed to this, but I want them to know why.

2424
03:16:10,840 --> 03:16:18,360
So that's where I am. I would like to come out in opposition. With with that.

2425
03:16:28,320 --> 03:16:35,880
I've never said I'm opposed to citizens in an initiative, but I'm almost forward and so I'm so struck that, okay?

2426
03:16:36,880 --> 03:16:39,840
I'm getting on the sofa to keep the name rang up.

2427
03:16:40,160 --> 03:16:41,300
You pull assistance to it.

2428
03:16:41,740 --> 03:16:45,740
I am thinking this is a very critical decision for me.

2429
03:16:49,150 --> 03:16:51,110
The petitions as lies.

2430
03:16:51,690 --> 03:16:52,290
They're getting signatures.

2431
03:16:52,290 --> 03:17:00,270
And I don't, I think we need to pose, I think, option one, that I don't think it's right, no

2432
03:17:00,270 --> 03:17:06,770
knowing what we know now, all these that all this facts. And we're, we're representative of

2433
03:17:06,770 --> 03:17:12,810
those citizens and staff, everyone. I can dispute it, it's not. Well, and I'm still talking,

2434
03:17:13,370 --> 03:17:15,670
so I can, I can, I can, it should be too.

2435
03:17:18,690 --> 03:17:20,890
If it goes to the, if it goes, if it goes,

2436
03:17:20,890 --> 03:17:27,550
this is great, but I have a fun little problem with doing citizens on lies. Period.

2437
03:17:30,510 --> 03:17:31,110
It's lies.

2438
03:17:32,630 --> 03:17:39,710
That's wrong. I believe the data that our awesome status done, award winning staff for many years,

2439
03:17:48,110 --> 03:17:55,530
I think it's kind of really, this is a big deal, just how I look at love on.

2440
03:17:56,510 --> 03:17:58,790
So, you know, I'm off to one, right?

2441
03:18:00,250 --> 03:18:02,750
I am option two.

2442
03:18:06,010 --> 03:18:19,390
I think the concept thing that I'm hearing is that we're supportive of the facts, but some of us think we're believed that it's going to be bad for the town.

2443
03:18:20,070 --> 03:18:32,170
We may think or believe that, but until we can demonstrate that to the citizens, I believe it's a responsibility of us to even consider taking a bank on that.

2444
03:18:32,170 --> 03:18:35,290
You know, to me, we are elected officials.

2445
03:18:35,750 --> 03:18:38,410
We have staff, staff representatives with information.

2446
03:18:40,210 --> 03:18:46,050
I want to get the information out for everybody to take a look at.

2447
03:18:47,130 --> 03:18:52,710
We can, we can, I guess, go to a process later to identify.

2448
03:18:55,590 --> 03:19:00,870
To identify if there are other things or how we will be impacted.

2449
03:19:00,870 --> 03:19:08,630
but to me if we oppose, I think there's a little bit of a question that what are we

2450
03:19:08,630 --> 03:19:16,710
opposed? I think Laura sort of you know brought it out. There are there are things we can say

2451
03:19:16,710 --> 03:19:25,590
whatever we want. But in the end this is not a valid question. It's a petition question

2452
03:19:26,830 --> 03:19:35,410
And at this point in time, probably the best information, the best facts we have are contained in this resolution.

2453
03:19:36,970 --> 03:19:41,610
And to oppose something without demonstrating the potential impacts.

2454
03:19:42,550 --> 03:19:44,970
To me, I just I just want to agree with you.

2455
03:19:45,890 --> 03:19:50,350
So as we are right now, we are a three tree, which means that we don't have a resolution.

2456
03:19:50,350 --> 03:19:58,470
That will do it with no resolution, roughly, unless you want to have further discussion to figure out where next time.

2457
03:19:58,810 --> 03:20:00,570
So I always write that question.

2458
03:20:01,770 --> 03:20:02,530
So branding.

2459
03:20:03,390 --> 03:20:06,510
Well, I'm looking at you.

2460
03:20:06,990 --> 03:20:07,130
So.

2461
03:20:07,130 --> 03:20:09,290
I mean, I will not let it be in the bill.

2462
03:20:10,150 --> 03:20:13,310
I will take a position in the past resolution.

2463
03:20:13,310 --> 03:20:21,110
I remember looking at these guys, you know, we need to get statement out and, you know, we need to

2464
03:20:21,110 --> 03:20:27,730
agree with something out there and if there's three of us heavily in favor, one of us kind of

2465
03:20:27,730 --> 03:20:33,830
in favor and two of you against an opposition position. But the constant theme, the constant

2466
03:20:33,830 --> 03:20:40,610
theme is we all agree on that. So it's a me that's easy. And we can do something, something else

2467
03:20:40,610 --> 03:20:42,990
down the line if that's what you're talking about.

2468
03:20:43,170 --> 03:20:46,770
To me, and I just want to get information out.

2469
03:20:47,210 --> 03:20:48,910
So what is in the line looked like?

2470
03:20:49,190 --> 03:20:50,230
I don't know.

2471
03:20:50,230 --> 03:20:52,650
Can, what is on the line to wait?

2472
03:20:52,690 --> 03:20:54,930
If you guys say that by the end of this week,

2473
03:20:55,070 --> 03:20:57,330
hopefully next week, those fill in the blank thoughts

2474
03:20:57,330 --> 03:21:00,890
would be filled in with that satisfy the numbers

2475
03:21:00,890 --> 03:21:03,090
that you're looking for to have the demonstration

2476
03:21:03,090 --> 03:21:03,910
of the department.

2477
03:21:04,290 --> 03:21:05,890
So we need to go through a budget process.

2478
03:21:06,170 --> 03:21:07,910
So I identify the impact in the framework.

2479
03:21:08,050 --> 03:21:09,130
So then what does that look like?

2480
03:21:09,130 --> 03:21:10,630
What's our time frame ticket?

2481
03:21:10,750 --> 03:21:11,370
That's August.

2482
03:21:11,970 --> 03:21:15,090
No, we would do the budget earlier this year,

2483
03:21:15,170 --> 03:21:17,810
because it's much more end up,

2484
03:21:17,830 --> 03:21:21,010
I would say we would probably start a pretty quick ride

2485
03:21:21,010 --> 03:21:24,530
after we are working on the 10 year financial plan.

2486
03:21:25,210 --> 03:21:27,430
So, I mean, in the past, I mean, for staff,

2487
03:21:27,690 --> 03:21:30,510
you first, you all, you don't see it until,

2488
03:21:30,710 --> 03:21:32,230
and every year it seems to have gotten later

2489
03:21:32,230 --> 03:21:33,670
and later with the budget retreat,

2490
03:21:33,950 --> 03:21:38,030
but staff starts working on it in June and May.

2491
03:21:38,030 --> 03:21:49,310
Well, now the long range plan that's, you guys already started about feeds and if you bring it to you guys and June is alive, but staff's working on the tenure plan already now.

2492
03:21:49,670 --> 03:21:56,950
We'll start working with departments usually in May, June. So, yeah.

2493
03:21:57,350 --> 03:22:02,030
I mean, are you trying to get to a post or are you just trying to provide the, I'm just trying to put it in the facts.

2494
03:22:02,030 --> 03:22:11,170
I mean, I think if you provide the facts, people have the ability to understand and to make decisions on yourselves and you kind of report it's indicated.

2495
03:22:11,870 --> 03:22:19,770
Well, what I say is authority being circulated all over social media and next door by people that counsel is opposed.

2496
03:22:20,010 --> 03:22:25,850
So if they're already making the statement that counsel is opposed, it's already out there that we think this is a bad idea.

2497
03:22:27,270 --> 03:22:29,970
And I mean, I'm open to listening.

2498
03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:39,100
To you, and to Laura, but as a break this second, I stand with what I said, this isn't just about the citizens, this is about our staff and our officers as well.

2499
03:22:42,760 --> 03:22:48,520
I don't know what to say. I mean, to me, it's about the fact that to me, this is the most current fact that we have.

2500
03:22:48,860 --> 03:22:49,900
And I'm a cushion folder.

2501
03:22:51,780 --> 03:22:56,920
I don't, I hear you saying, you know, I just, I'm at a different place.

2502
03:22:57,340 --> 03:22:59,980
I can't feel that I respect that. Still looking.

2503
03:23:01,600 --> 03:23:05,460
But you don't, you can only look at the facts.

2504
03:23:05,820 --> 03:23:11,180
You can't look at what this would do to, like could, but I can't demonstrate that.

2505
03:23:11,260 --> 03:23:12,320
You can demonstrate that.

2506
03:23:12,320 --> 03:23:13,480
But I need to demonstrate that.

2507
03:23:13,480 --> 03:23:14,700
But you can recognize that.

2508
03:23:15,680 --> 03:23:19,920
I need to communicate that to the institutions to articulate, here's what the impacts are.

2509
03:23:20,140 --> 03:23:22,460
This is incomplete processes for this time.

2510
03:23:22,820 --> 03:23:24,680
This is the best information we have.

2511
03:23:25,100 --> 03:23:28,600
We're trying to provide the best most current information we have to people.

2512
03:23:28,600 --> 03:23:35,220
This is what we got. And if there's, if there's why, as you put it, out there, this should probably set up string.

2513
03:23:36,160 --> 03:23:43,760
So then many day, if recess, a discussion point, in recess, and people can go off of the same,

2514
03:23:43,760 --> 03:23:51,920
go off the same information to identify if they, if they want to pursue something or not.

2515
03:23:53,040 --> 03:24:03,000
So I will state the council as the process builds when we do get to final version of this resolution we decide on a date to have it in the bigger room.

2516
03:24:03,080 --> 03:24:08,640
There will be an opportunity for us individually to set the right on the matter and why we're floating the way we're moving.

2517
03:24:09,420 --> 03:24:16,380
We can make a personalized statement at that time and if you choose to express our position or not, even with just a factual.

2518
03:24:16,380 --> 03:24:21,160
I'm looking for compromise, even with just a factual resolution.

2519
03:24:21,540 --> 03:24:25,360
As art, my goal, again, has always, as it had always been,

2520
03:24:25,420 --> 03:24:29,040
and John's also in his consensus, being best served in citizens

2521
03:24:29,040 --> 03:24:30,060
if we are 600.

2522
03:24:31,200 --> 03:24:32,400
That is why we are accounts.

2523
03:24:33,160 --> 03:24:40,380
So we can keep consensus in the answer to satisfy everybody's,

2524
03:24:42,440 --> 03:24:45,340
everybody's desire to best serve as citizens is an individual

2525
03:24:45,340 --> 03:24:49,680
statement in the days about where we're coming from, like, migrating to Yesa and the resolution,

2526
03:24:50,800 --> 03:24:55,560
does that a compromise for you to read, so just put out a factual resolution today.

2527
03:25:01,340 --> 03:25:08,080
I think that in the facts, I was more important than part of opinion, so I'm about that.

2528
03:25:11,910 --> 03:25:16,150
I want to talk about it. Well, we're not there. I'm going to take the rhythm. No,

2529
03:25:16,150 --> 03:25:20,090
those seeds are necessary to have any answer. And you want to go first, you know?

2530
03:25:22,870 --> 03:25:37,090
If this is just going to die here tonight, if it's a three-three, then I think that is more detrimental to our citizens than not getting the facts out there.

2531
03:25:39,390 --> 03:25:43,950
I, again, want to be on record that I'm opposed.

2532
03:25:43,950 --> 03:25:45,590
So you're not voting.

2533
03:25:46,130 --> 03:25:48,670
You're just a duplicate census to give us direction.

2534
03:25:48,850 --> 03:25:50,890
You really want to jump in the prime pan.

2535
03:25:51,270 --> 03:25:54,810
We can put both the resolutions on the regular meeting agenda.

2536
03:25:55,930 --> 03:25:58,150
And you can make your sausage at that time.

2537
03:25:58,650 --> 03:25:59,370
But we're in the right.

2538
03:25:59,590 --> 03:26:00,230
We're in the right place.

2539
03:26:01,250 --> 03:26:03,350
And in the right place.

2540
03:26:03,350 --> 03:26:03,770
We're in the right place.

2541
03:26:04,630 --> 03:26:06,790
All right. Well, I think all I have to say is I agree.

2542
03:26:07,230 --> 03:26:08,750
I don't want that this resolution to die.

2543
03:26:09,030 --> 03:26:11,330
It's more critical to get the back son.

2544
03:26:11,530 --> 03:26:13,770
The only thing I am going to say is I love.

2545
03:26:13,770 --> 03:26:43,750
The unanimous 60 dream of council, but at the same time, I don't think we're going to get to that. And I refuse to let a single or two single no votes win, because we are in a democracy and the yay votes win, not the naivots and must be the majority of the majority wins. So for me, all move forward with just getting the backs out, but when it comes to things that we really need to stick to, I respect warning and unify council, I just don't think that we're there. And I'm not going to let the

2546
03:26:43,770 --> 03:26:49,250
minority votes, keep us from doing our duty to our citizens and to our staff.

2547
03:26:50,550 --> 03:26:55,740
I'd appreciate that. I'd like to make one more statement, please.

2548
03:26:56,360 --> 03:27:01,940
I enjoy representing the citizens of Parker and I respect their judgment, the citizens should

2549
03:27:01,940 --> 03:27:02,700
make the ballot.

2550
03:27:05,390 --> 03:27:12,330
Us, six of us, who knows whether this is an issue on any social media or not,

2551
03:27:12,330 --> 03:27:18,610
rumors fly all the time about different things on social media. That's not important in this room.

2552
03:27:20,580 --> 03:27:25,060
We disagree sometimes. We come together. We make decisions.

2553
03:27:27,830 --> 03:27:31,150
We've been a good council this past three years that I've been on council.

2554
03:27:32,270 --> 03:27:39,430
We work together. We're going to have to get through some difficult issues as we proceed and we will get through this.

2555
03:27:39,430 --> 03:27:44,870
We may have a difference of opinion on things and we will get through this.

2556
03:27:45,250 --> 03:27:49,890
But I, for one, I support the citizens of Parker,

2557
03:27:50,270 --> 03:27:54,470
bringing any initiative they want under Parker Charter in the Colorado Constitution.

2558
03:27:55,770 --> 03:28:00,250
And if any citizen out there listening right now wants to read about the citizen

2559
03:28:00,250 --> 03:28:04,210
ballot initiative, they can go to my website and they can read citizen

2560
03:28:04,210 --> 03:28:09,010
ballot initiative on my website to understand what that means for

2561
03:28:09,010 --> 03:28:10,650
with the citizens of Colorado.

2562
03:28:15,680 --> 03:28:17,840
Can I just make a statement about that, too?

2563
03:28:17,920 --> 03:28:19,800
I think that is laid in self-promotion.

2564
03:28:21,460 --> 03:28:27,840
And that, I think everyone in this room agrees

2565
03:28:27,840 --> 03:28:29,520
that citizens have rights.

2566
03:28:30,020 --> 03:28:32,760
We all have a website, but none of us are out there

2567
03:28:32,760 --> 03:28:35,340
promoting it during a campaign season, especially.

2568
03:28:35,880 --> 03:28:37,380
I think that is very laid in.

2569
03:28:37,380 --> 03:28:39,700
That's not what we're going to have to worry about, I think.

2570
03:28:40,580 --> 03:28:43,720
And then it's outside the scope of this discussion count.

2571
03:28:44,340 --> 03:28:44,960
No, it's not.

2572
03:28:44,960 --> 03:28:45,560
No, it's not.

2573
03:28:45,560 --> 03:28:46,220
And I'm tired.

2574
03:28:46,280 --> 03:28:49,180
I get to have my opinion just like you get to have your opinion.

2575
03:28:49,560 --> 03:28:52,900
And I have never gotten so irritated like you.

2576
03:28:52,940 --> 03:28:55,720
This is probably the first time you've ever seen me get irritated.

2577
03:28:56,700 --> 03:28:58,780
But that is, that is just out of line.

2578
03:28:59,220 --> 03:29:01,900
I totally think that that is.

2579
03:29:02,300 --> 03:29:04,740
I think the citizens of part of my watch.

2580
03:29:05,060 --> 03:29:05,200
No, no.

2581
03:29:05,480 --> 03:29:09,680
Why don't you say why don't you go to the town's website instead of

2582
03:29:09,680 --> 03:29:16,420
Oh, look at me because the town doesn't have that on their website. And it's none of your business in my business.

2583
03:29:16,900 --> 03:29:22,380
I choose to write, but you know, it's a part of Parker 50 blogs. I don't know, I don't know.

2584
03:29:22,800 --> 03:29:27,320
I wish you were at a line. We have some American kids. And this is the bullying I've talked about.

2585
03:29:27,540 --> 03:29:29,760
Now you find it. Okay, you need to settle.

2586
03:29:30,660 --> 03:29:35,460
No, you all didn't want to believe me. For the past several months on this issue.

2587
03:29:35,460 --> 03:29:38,320
since the Parker citizen's initiative was formed.

2588
03:29:38,820 --> 03:29:39,540
Okay, okay.

2589
03:29:39,540 --> 03:29:39,700
Okay.

2590
03:29:40,100 --> 03:29:43,080
None of you are business that a Parker citizen

2591
03:29:43,080 --> 03:29:46,280
form an initiative that is not in your business.

2592
03:29:46,380 --> 03:29:50,120
Go form your own initiative and go form your own initiative.

2593
03:29:50,680 --> 03:29:53,560
And let me, let me try and enjoy.

2594
03:29:54,280 --> 03:29:57,140
I'm just, I'm just tired of getting fully by her.

2595
03:29:57,380 --> 03:29:59,320
No, I have never bullied you.

2596
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:10,140
But a lie, I have never folded you. All right, I'm done. All right. So I'm hearing we're going to let you sit in the classroom solution in the packet.

2597
03:30:12,190 --> 03:30:13,150
I agree to that.

2598
03:30:13,370 --> 03:30:23,710
Okay, I can sense this. So with this being said, it sounds like stabbed. You're going to have the blanks filled in with in.

2599
03:30:23,710 --> 03:30:28,850
Yeah, if we don't have it for the April 1st, it will be April 15th.

2600
03:30:29,070 --> 03:30:32,650
Okay, so we're targeting the April 1st. Can I still know where you look came from?

2601
03:30:32,990 --> 03:30:38,890
Yeah, as long as all the types are coming in, then the yellows are gone. And it's, yeah, and then

2602
03:30:38,890 --> 03:30:40,690
when it's ready, it's ready. Yeah, it's a complete privilege.

2603
03:30:40,890 --> 03:30:46,630
I believe it's a privilege. Okay, okay. Anything else?

2604
03:30:46,650 --> 03:30:52,350
Yes, two more items. Yes. So one thing that I would like to get

2605
03:30:53,790 --> 03:30:55,970
Council's, I guess, Blossom on.

2606
03:30:57,090 --> 03:31:02,450
It's my recommendation to pause the telephone project,

2607
03:31:02,570 --> 03:31:06,230
which is the renovation, modernization and addition

2608
03:31:06,230 --> 03:31:08,510
of the current telephone.

2609
03:31:09,230 --> 03:31:15,350
As you know, this has been something that's been planned since 2021

2610
03:31:15,870 --> 03:31:21,150
with the approval of the facility master plan and then the contracts

2611
03:31:21,150 --> 03:31:45,190
and we started the design work on it last year actually in 2022, but with the petition that's out there to possibly eliminate the grocery tax, I feel like it's only responsible and appropriate although a different local decision to put that project on hold.

2612
03:31:45,190 --> 03:31:58,790
And this project is being paid for with cash from the two years of COVID that we had extraordinary unprecedented.

2613
03:31:59,270 --> 03:32:01,290
It's not going to have been again.

2614
03:32:01,290 --> 03:32:08,030
from the process we don't have in the pandemic of 18% and 11% sales tax revenue are normal

2615
03:32:08,030 --> 03:32:12,510
is between three and five as you know we're back down to three again percent.

2616
03:32:13,590 --> 03:32:20,350
So when that funds, that is general fund money, it's not like the other CIP projects.

2617
03:32:21,330 --> 03:32:28,350
So when we're talking about types to possibly achieve positions and services and all of that,

2618
03:32:28,350 --> 03:32:30,770
I feel like it's only responsible to pause it.

2619
03:32:31,130 --> 03:32:35,630
Now, I do want to make sure that I'm articulating that.

2620
03:32:35,630 --> 03:32:40,470
That project is not just additional workspaces.

2621
03:32:41,190 --> 03:32:44,490
It is important safety and security enhancements

2622
03:32:44,490 --> 03:32:47,010
to identify potential threats.

2623
03:32:47,010 --> 03:32:49,330
We're talking after shooters scenarios.

2624
03:32:49,690 --> 03:32:52,450
Minimize, it's really to minimize the harm to employees

2625
03:32:52,450 --> 03:32:53,030
in the public.

2626
03:32:53,370 --> 03:32:56,150
This building is over 20 years old.

2627
03:32:56,150 --> 03:33:00,430
It was built for 10 year planned expansion.

2628
03:33:01,510 --> 03:33:03,490
We're definitely passed that.

2629
03:33:03,970 --> 03:33:05,970
And I don't, and it's more of that renovation

2630
03:33:05,970 --> 03:33:09,430
and modernization off the because those safety security

2631
03:33:09,430 --> 03:33:13,550
enhancement is a whole plan of those.

2632
03:33:13,950 --> 03:33:19,070
It's also ADA and accessibility improvements.

2633
03:33:19,270 --> 03:33:21,530
Again, that's needed for this building.

2634
03:33:22,210 --> 03:33:23,250
And then additionally,

2635
03:33:24,390 --> 03:33:31,150
There's upgrading of technology and systems, as you know how to chambers is on a bandage.

2636
03:33:31,590 --> 03:33:37,190
Like set bandage goes, we don't have a production anymore in there.

2637
03:33:37,890 --> 03:33:43,670
And then also it was to provide additional space for additional services such as transport services.

2638
03:33:43,670 --> 03:33:48,790
But I do feel that it should be put on fully well.

2639
03:33:49,230 --> 03:33:51,910
We don't know which one of our futures will apply.

2640
03:33:52,570 --> 03:33:53,630
So it would be my recommendation.

2641
03:33:54,090 --> 03:33:58,710
It will cost us if we're able to restart it.

2642
03:33:59,410 --> 03:34:03,870
It will cost us more because of it being pushed for six to nine months.

2643
03:34:03,930 --> 03:34:04,330
My body.

2644
03:34:05,350 --> 03:34:08,850
Around nine hundred and six to nine miles on?

2645
03:34:09,030 --> 03:34:09,730
No, I mean.

2646
03:34:10,850 --> 03:34:11,670
What does that mean?

2647
03:34:11,790 --> 03:34:12,150
Yes.

2648
03:34:12,670 --> 03:34:14,650
So we might have to scale that up.

2649
03:34:14,670 --> 03:34:20,350
I don't think it's going to be able to find that additional funds because

2650
03:34:20,350 --> 03:34:24,090
this funds are from those two years of targeted.

2651
03:34:24,130 --> 03:34:26,450
So not like we had money sitting around.

2652
03:34:26,490 --> 03:34:29,290
We were able to do it this way because of the two.

2653
03:34:29,630 --> 03:34:29,690
The two.

2654
03:34:29,690 --> 03:34:30,110
The two.

2655
03:34:30,530 --> 03:34:30,730
The two.

2656
03:34:30,730 --> 03:34:30,870
The two.

2657
03:34:30,870 --> 03:34:31,170
The two.

2658
03:34:32,430 --> 03:34:32,510
Yeah.

2659
03:34:33,090 --> 03:34:37,790
That's about to skip $1 million worth of improvements if we talk and thank you back.

2660
03:34:39,110 --> 03:34:41,950
Is there a way to part out that was an individual?

2661
03:34:43,150 --> 03:34:46,250
No, it gets a whole complete project.

2662
03:34:46,450 --> 03:34:53,670
I mean, if we were to put it on indefinitely and not do it.

2663
03:34:53,750 --> 03:34:59,330
There are different things that we would be able to do, but it would cost us still, you know,

2664
03:34:59,330 --> 03:35:06,550
it's a million dollars to do some of the ADA stuff because some of the ADA stuff is being

2665
03:35:06,550 --> 03:35:12,190
sorted in it, naturally, but if we don't do that and have to just go out and do it, it

2666
03:35:12,190 --> 03:35:19,190
definitely costs more than that. So yeah. I mean, I'm definitely a little kind of good one at

2667
03:35:19,190 --> 03:35:24,190
Sometimes the games clearly, but it still requires a lot of work to get into that.

2668
03:35:25,250 --> 03:35:28,190
Yeah, so it was a piece of the system.

2669
03:35:29,030 --> 03:35:30,190
Yeah, it looks like it was.

2670
03:35:30,990 --> 03:35:31,630
For the only one.

2671
03:35:32,070 --> 03:35:37,530
It is, but you know, we would, if it was to be put on hold and does not,

2672
03:35:37,650 --> 03:35:42,310
like we would, I mean, it would be put on hold because we don't have,

2673
03:35:42,310 --> 03:35:43,530
we've already touched it.

2674
03:35:43,910 --> 03:35:46,970
So to be able to find that money when we're already,

2675
03:35:46,970 --> 03:35:53,350
looking at reductions to put in all of the different things that we're talking about because it's

2676
03:35:53,350 --> 03:36:01,570
it's infrastructure changes to in terms of how the public and employees are protected behind

2677
03:36:01,570 --> 03:36:08,910
right now it's very open which we like that but at the same time, you know, anybody can

2678
03:36:08,910 --> 03:36:15,790
it's just a swing, swing half door between the public and anybody on the back side same thing

2679
03:36:15,790 --> 03:36:31,530
I don't want to get too much and just say, hey, this is how you, but, you know, it's definitely something that concerns me, and it's a big part of that project is that safety and security announcements for employees and people coming to court and

2680
03:36:32,190 --> 03:36:35,530
Yeah, there's a lot of noise, so I think that's really,

2681
03:36:36,330 --> 03:36:39,070
really, really, really, really.

2682
03:36:41,470 --> 03:36:42,330
So question.

2683
03:36:44,210 --> 03:36:46,930
Just to make sure everybody's on the same page.

2684
03:36:47,250 --> 03:36:53,170
Part of the town hall expansion is bringing over employees that are scattered throughout the town,

2685
03:36:53,470 --> 03:36:58,250
including in buildings like Old Town Hall, which you want to talk about dilapidated,

2686
03:36:58,250 --> 03:37:02,250
maybe not the safest building on the planet. So we're talking about

2687
03:37:03,150 --> 03:37:08,950
pausing a much needed facility. This isn't just a cosmetic pretty fixer upper. This is a much

2688
03:37:08,950 --> 03:37:14,130
need of facility to bring staff together to coordinate collaborate safety, not just safety

2689
03:37:14,130 --> 03:37:22,050
from tutors but health safety as well. We are talking about pausing that, which if we can bring it back

2690
03:37:22,050 --> 03:37:24,830
again. We'll cost us a million dollars in improvements.

2691
03:37:26,870 --> 03:37:28,570
But, and it's one time used funds. We're

2692
03:37:28,570 --> 03:37:29,790
not getting these funds again.

2693
03:37:30,000 --> 03:37:40,280
So that we can make sure that if this initiative passes the citizens votes, we don't have to shut down our time.

2694
03:37:40,660 --> 03:37:45,460
But really, what it's coming down to, it would lessen me in fact.

2695
03:37:46,320 --> 03:37:50,380
I would say this for the temporary year.

2696
03:37:50,380 --> 03:37:56,720
Yeah, for a year or two, because not all that could be a way that's not required.

2697
03:37:59,520 --> 03:38:17,900
And I just, I feel like it's a morale issue too for employees who would be saying, you know, what are we looking on terms of reductions because, you know, it's 12 million, 11 million is a lot of money when we're trying to get that outside of the auction right far.

2698
03:38:17,900 --> 03:38:28,160
But you're still building this modernization and you know improvements needed improvements, but you know what I also need my job.

2699
03:38:29,080 --> 03:38:34,220
So you know that's that's part of it. I just don't feel like it. It sends a good message to the employees.

2700
03:38:36,080 --> 03:38:42,320
And it concerns me to, you know, sacrifice some of that stuff that we need to do.

2701
03:38:42,800 --> 03:38:46,240
But I think it's, it's my motivation to supply.

2702
03:38:46,760 --> 03:38:49,940
Well, I really hate that we're back into this corner essentially.

2703
03:38:50,940 --> 03:38:54,160
But as I've stated, I trust our staff immensely.

2704
03:38:54,540 --> 03:38:57,380
You guys are the ones that know the end and outs.

2705
03:38:57,540 --> 03:38:58,960
Here are the ones that we rely on.

2706
03:38:59,340 --> 03:39:02,160
And so if your recommendation is to do that,

2707
03:39:02,160 --> 03:39:22,160
And I support your accommodation and I love the brandy more of I think it's a shame, but if that's what we have to do then that's we have to do I mean how many more dollars is this going to cost the town.

2708
03:39:28,120 --> 03:39:31,960
I trust staffs working the vision for me.

2709
03:39:32,600 --> 03:39:34,420
Again, I just think it's a shame.

2710
03:39:35,040 --> 03:39:41,240
We will continue because you guys had created several contracts with the design

2711
03:39:41,240 --> 03:39:43,420
and working with AMD and JHA.

2712
03:39:43,600 --> 03:39:51,540
We will continue to bring all the plans right up to the approval for council

2713
03:39:51,540 --> 03:39:54,080
without going through that stuff.

2714
03:39:54,080 --> 03:39:58,440
And obviously, those campaigns would be ready

2715
03:39:58,440 --> 03:40:02,140
then to be triggered back and made it to gay people.

2716
03:40:02,560 --> 03:40:05,880
So, like, it's a way of intonation and being used to doing that.

2717
03:40:09,080 --> 03:40:11,340
But you're going to say, it's a lot of, like,

2718
03:40:11,640 --> 03:40:15,500
the guy that exists to serve people to eat.

2719
03:40:16,200 --> 03:40:18,720
The government does not exist to serve itself.

2720
03:40:21,540 --> 03:40:23,900
In this particular matter, I agree with Michelle.

2721
03:40:29,880 --> 03:40:30,340
Go on, that's it.

2722
03:40:35,480 --> 03:40:35,960
Yeah,

2723
03:40:38,640 --> 03:40:44,460
this is the, this is the shape. I know that when we did, we did, we didn't build

2724
03:40:44,460 --> 03:40:52,380
that sound, uh, pee knee or, uh, parts of wreck and we used COPs. There was a lot of, well,

2725
03:40:52,720 --> 03:40:57,520
back from conservatives that said, you shouldn't be financing the same cash. And now we have

2726
03:40:57,520 --> 03:41:04,020
windfall from COVID 18% and on 11% to years we take that money we put into a savings account

2727
03:41:04,020 --> 03:41:12,040
to his citizens to take a better their town hall and now that money has been seen as

2728
03:41:12,780 --> 03:41:21,320
ongoing funds that we can use to whatever it's so sad that some people just don't realize

2729
03:41:23,420 --> 03:41:29,780
They're doing. And then I'm just, I'm taking a bag. This is, this is the future of our town.

2730
03:41:29,980 --> 03:41:35,600
Our goal has always been to not have debt when we get to build out.

2731
03:41:36,360 --> 03:41:40,060
Our goal has always been to pay for things with cash.

2732
03:41:40,060 --> 03:41:45,960
We saved that cash from an anomaly that is coded and torqued into our coffers.

2733
03:41:45,960 --> 03:41:49,960
And now that cash is being used as excuse to

2734
03:41:50,800 --> 03:41:53,400
thought revenues and ruin this term.

2735
03:41:53,760 --> 03:41:54,160
That's the shame.

2736
03:41:54,560 --> 03:41:56,480
And it's, it needs to be talked about.

2737
03:41:56,680 --> 03:41:57,780
Even needs to know what's going on.

2738
03:41:58,020 --> 03:42:00,840
Because this is, this is Seth.

2739
03:42:02,020 --> 03:42:03,120
I think I think it's a pleasure.

2740
03:42:04,700 --> 03:42:04,780
Yeah.

2741
03:42:05,180 --> 03:42:08,260
No, I mean, I think I think it's a very uncertain

2742
03:42:08,260 --> 03:42:08,940
you have.

2743
03:42:10,120 --> 03:42:10,160
Yeah.

2744
03:42:10,460 --> 03:42:15,460
I would encourage you to figure out

2745
03:42:16,020 --> 03:42:20,580
you know, what the components say at the age of the eight, they can't work at the age

2746
03:42:20,580 --> 03:42:26,120
of the community in the Denver, measure area, 20, 30, 1 or 4 of us during the, you know,

2747
03:42:27,120 --> 03:42:29,200
16, I'm sorry about that.

2748
03:42:31,360 --> 03:42:37,100
But, you know, those types of enhancements, I think, need any, any items or stuff.

2749
03:42:38,300 --> 03:42:42,180
But at this point, if you don't have this ability, you can't do both.

2750
03:42:42,180 --> 03:42:46,280
And so I'm supportive of the performance of Michelle's performance.

2751
03:42:47,860 --> 03:42:57,420
Yeah, and so with that also, this is something that I spoke in with the OAC team.

2752
03:42:57,820 --> 03:43:03,120
The construction team, which is just Bob Aström and AMD and J.H.L.

2753
03:43:03,120 --> 03:43:07,220
To get the number and just see what that timeline looks like and all of that.

2754
03:43:07,220 --> 03:43:15,260
So, this is news to the directors that are all sitting there, and so I will also be

2755
03:43:15,260 --> 03:43:22,620
preparing messaging to go out to employees this week to let them know because that's something

2756
03:43:22,620 --> 03:43:29,560
that I want to make sure that this message from me directly. But, you know, and to follow up,

2757
03:43:29,840 --> 03:43:37,200
it is something that I saw as a reinvestment back into the community because this is

2758
03:43:38,480 --> 03:43:46,440
building for our citizens. I'm a citizen, I've lived in Harvard for 23 years. And this

2759
03:43:46,440 --> 03:43:52,920
is something that is what our residents should not have else done. And Bill

2760
03:43:52,920 --> 03:44:01,140
Savingscare and the field of any accessibility challenges something we have, whether it's somebody,

2761
03:44:01,720 --> 03:44:05,300
you know, you talked about the aging, but it's actually, you know, it could be a boy

2762
03:44:05,300 --> 03:44:11,700
role, it has different radiation challenges. And so being able to pre-invest and provide

2763
03:44:11,700 --> 03:44:16,720
that part of me to me is something that's very important, as well as the additional

2764
03:44:16,720 --> 03:44:24,100
mediums, and today, so it's being able to do the studies. But, you know, so that's what the

2765
03:44:24,100 --> 03:44:31,550
plan is right now, and then what we may, we can restart it. Yes, carries looking at me like,

2766
03:44:32,550 --> 03:44:37,950
Sure, I already know we restarted and we're going to cut my public aren't out of it.

2767
03:44:38,290 --> 03:44:38,550
That's that.

2768
03:44:39,570 --> 03:44:40,670
This is not getting our turn.

2769
03:44:41,430 --> 03:44:45,430
The second thing is we are working on a communications plan.

2770
03:44:46,610 --> 03:44:52,430
You know, we'll have the good and the resolution going forward when it does does transfer.

2771
03:44:52,610 --> 03:44:54,770
We'll be working on a press release.

2772
03:44:55,450 --> 03:44:59,870
And to that out, we'll have information out there on let's talk further.

2773
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:11,380
We have been already working on and Emily has been working with her team, but FAQs should be going on a project page on let's talk

2774
03:45:11,380 --> 03:45:14,880
and linking from the website.

2775
03:45:16,180 --> 03:45:20,120
So I think that's probably the main system.

2776
03:45:20,540 --> 03:45:23,380
I think that we're working on other materials

2777
03:45:23,380 --> 03:45:29,740
in places that are earlier that we're making it easier to understand

2778
03:45:29,740 --> 03:45:31,740
all of this very complex information.

2779
03:45:36,770 --> 03:45:38,530
I think it's all like that.

2780
03:45:38,590 --> 03:45:38,890
Thank you.

2781
03:45:39,270 --> 03:45:42,350
And again, there's one other answer or anything.

2782
03:45:42,350 --> 03:45:46,010
Well, we don't want, you know, I do it every minute.

2783
03:45:46,550 --> 03:45:47,150
I don't want that.

2784
03:45:47,550 --> 03:45:48,610
I stay.

2785
03:45:50,610 --> 03:45:52,630
So we started the presentation.

2786
03:45:52,990 --> 03:45:56,010
The resolution book is only on the book and assumption.

2787
03:45:56,750 --> 03:45:59,130
We're going to have other exemptions that are being signed.

2788
03:46:00,050 --> 03:46:00,850
One is to four of them.

2789
03:46:01,190 --> 03:46:01,290
Four of them.

2790
03:46:01,390 --> 03:46:03,130
The other one is to the divers.

2791
03:46:04,930 --> 03:46:06,770
I don't know if there's any interest on council.

2792
03:46:07,270 --> 03:46:10,890
Again, taking advantage of those exemptions over the election.

2793
03:46:10,890 --> 03:46:16,890
And I'm not looking for direction at this point, but just so you're aware that it's

2794
03:46:16,890 --> 03:46:18,050
provided like a process.

2795
03:46:19,110 --> 03:46:25,710
This was an exception that was created in 2022 when it took back last year, and I think

2796
03:46:25,710 --> 03:46:31,090
there would be a moderate production and tax revenue that you want to have set up in those

2797
03:46:31,090 --> 03:46:31,590
exemptions.

2798
03:46:31,750 --> 03:46:36,010
I would point out that the bill that was approved by the legislature is specifically

2799
03:46:36,010 --> 03:46:39,990
allowed the municipalities to make their own decision, considering whether or not to make

2800
03:46:39,990 --> 03:46:50,030
advantage of these two exemptions. So if it is absolutely discretionary in your part, but maybe one way to simplify his whole process of the does make it to the battle beyond questions,

2801
03:46:50,030 --> 03:46:56,390
to get in the way of, you know, to ask the grocery to ask the other two, the other two,

2802
03:46:56,450 --> 03:47:00,930
exempt just making views, dollars, so that's just something for you to thank you.

2803
03:47:01,510 --> 03:47:07,150
And now we're going to align with us with the state. Yes, I'm finally looking into one.

2804
03:47:08,090 --> 03:47:15,370
Randy. So clarification, you're wanting direction for us to look into if we exempt women and products

2805
03:47:15,370 --> 03:47:19,570
and adult, is it specifically adult measures or is that a shoulder and an adult? Okay,

2806
03:47:19,570 --> 03:47:26,150
So you're looking for us to already exempt feminine hygiene products and adult and children

2807
03:47:26,150 --> 03:47:31,970
diapers, so that the only question that could come to a ballot measure, which simply be moved

2808
03:47:31,970 --> 03:47:38,110
for home consumption. Correct. Okay. How quickly could that happen?

2809
03:47:39,370 --> 03:47:43,210
Very quickly. Now I text two readings and take them out of time to be ordered and stick out.

2810
03:47:44,840 --> 03:47:55,140
Well, do I guess what's the process to have a state session and then we're going to need more information on this.

2811
03:47:55,460 --> 03:48:01,120
Do you want to put you like him who's hair and potential ordinance for a few in the state session?

2812
03:48:02,680 --> 03:48:05,720
How would you like to go and thank us for what he has asked?

2813
03:48:06,160 --> 03:48:09,600
And again, I'm not looking for direction right now, but something clear to think about it.

2814
03:48:09,620 --> 03:48:12,400
If you want us to move on, this hopefully we can sort of give that as well.

2815
03:48:13,240 --> 03:48:18,400
is there any way to rest to know what the financial impact would be for that if we remove the tax

2816
03:48:18,400 --> 03:48:21,080
up of those things like is there any way to quantify that?

2817
03:48:26,180 --> 03:48:27,060
I'm sorry.

2818
03:48:27,340 --> 03:48:27,520
I'm sorry.

2819
03:48:27,520 --> 03:48:27,620
I'm sorry.

2820
03:48:27,620 --> 03:48:32,440
I sure I ask you a lot of information, because we wanted to look at the impacts together.

2821
03:48:32,620 --> 03:48:37,500
And so certainly also that this is made with the whole impact of this repeat.

2822
03:48:39,060 --> 03:48:45,400
I can tell you in the state of the fiscal know was 13 million and that was for the 2.9%

2823
03:48:46,420 --> 03:48:52,820
state component of the sales tax. I'm assuming it's been material the last that they're

2824
03:48:52,820 --> 03:48:56,960
student only because that was again. That was a day for it. That's why. Yeah. That's a why.

2825
03:48:56,960 --> 03:49:06,960
And I would say, I came up with between 26280, 2060 to 2060 to 2080.

2826
03:49:07,060 --> 03:49:09,620
I mean, you know, as a female.

2827
03:49:10,440 --> 03:49:11,320
I understand.

2828
03:49:11,820 --> 03:49:15,120
So it's like zero for babies or children.

2829
03:49:15,660 --> 03:49:18,700
And then 10 to 50 of women.

2830
03:49:19,220 --> 03:49:20,520
10, 8 to 10 to 49.

2831
03:49:20,880 --> 03:49:21,260
I got you.

2832
03:49:21,360 --> 03:49:23,140
And then we didn't expect that.

2833
03:49:23,140 --> 03:49:25,500
And then they check it right in the end, don't.

2834
03:49:26,020 --> 03:49:28,620
And that's what you're talking about.

2835
03:49:28,620 --> 03:49:29,000
OK.

2836
03:49:29,000 --> 03:49:29,520
Go on.

2837
03:49:30,480 --> 03:49:30,960
OK.

2838
03:49:31,040 --> 03:49:31,960
Thank you for that.

2839
03:49:32,600 --> 03:49:36,680
I'm fine having you guys so forward with bringing that to us and what that looks like.

2840
03:49:38,580 --> 03:49:38,740
OK.

2841
03:49:38,740 --> 03:49:41,320
So I get more and more.

2842
03:49:41,320 --> 03:49:42,280
Yes, Mr. Maloney.

2843
03:49:42,460 --> 03:49:44,180
Make it very good for you.

2844
03:49:44,860 --> 03:49:45,120
Josh.

2845
03:49:46,220 --> 03:49:46,320
Yeah.

2846
03:49:46,580 --> 03:49:47,920
I think it's worth exploring.

2847
03:49:47,920 --> 03:49:48,720
I'm a witness.

2848
03:49:49,460 --> 03:49:52,540
You know, so I'm going to be a little bit, is to hit this, but if it's a statewide issue,

2849
03:49:52,700 --> 03:49:54,920
we should talk to them.

2850
03:49:56,300 --> 03:49:58,760
And we can do this together.

2851
03:49:59,160 --> 03:49:59,320
We're ready.

2852
03:49:59,840 --> 03:50:00,200
Good afternoon.

2853
03:50:01,060 --> 03:50:01,420
We're good.

2854
03:50:01,660 --> 03:50:02,900
I'll show it.

2855
03:50:04,500 --> 03:50:05,660
Anything else, Jim?

2856
03:50:06,020 --> 03:50:06,360
Just a moment.

2857
03:50:07,100 --> 03:50:07,760
Don't do it.

2858
03:50:07,920 --> 03:50:08,080
Say it.

2859
03:50:08,440 --> 03:50:09,680
I don't.

2860
03:50:09,680 --> 03:50:10,700
Say it.

2861
03:50:10,740 --> 03:50:12,020
Thank you.

2862
03:50:12,440 --> 03:50:13,560
No, I don't think so.

2863
03:50:13,840 --> 03:50:14,460
Time cancel.

2864
03:50:14,920 --> 03:50:15,640
Can we?

2865
03:50:16,960 --> 03:50:19,200
I don't know if I can tell me how to handle that thing.

2866
03:50:19,840 --> 03:50:20,740
Guys, I went to DC.

2867
03:50:21,280 --> 03:50:25,420
And I just have to tell you guys how incredible it was for the public safety and

2868
03:50:25,420 --> 03:50:27,400
crime prevention effort advocacy committee.

2869
03:50:27,540 --> 03:50:27,960
It's a mouthful.

2870
03:50:28,120 --> 03:50:29,260
And I have to pretend every single thing.

2871
03:50:30,600 --> 03:50:32,700
I showed three initiatives.

2872
03:50:33,180 --> 03:50:36,300
And I met with our congressmen and was Senator Bennett's office and

2873
03:50:36,300 --> 03:50:36,980
who was able to have.

2874
03:50:37,060 --> 03:50:41,160
I think presented the three main issues that after working with our chief

2875
03:50:41,160 --> 03:50:43,400
and the commanders and the servants and doing right alums and

2876
03:50:43,400 --> 03:50:45,120
hearing citizens that I felt were important.

2877
03:50:46,240 --> 03:50:49,340
So, I just want to give you guys another, I'm not going to need that, but just to

2878
03:50:49,340 --> 03:50:53,160
believe in, you don't read that I was specifically looking at, where the mental and

2879
03:50:53,160 --> 03:50:57,900
physical health care officers as our host program and the clear certification.

2880
03:50:59,060 --> 03:51:04,080
And not only were the legal staff and Senator Bennett seen excited about these,

2881
03:51:04,200 --> 03:51:07,180
they've already reached out to me to get more information, which I've already started

2882
03:51:07,180 --> 03:51:08,660
to share and have meetings with.

2883
03:51:09,040 --> 03:51:14,200
And then Denver City Council member heard what I was talking about.

2884
03:51:14,200 --> 03:51:17,920
if they're a here, reach out to me and want to collaborate with us as a council and what we do

2885
03:51:17,920 --> 03:51:22,940
right here and how we can help Denver improve on this. And then I have had a state representative

2886
03:51:22,940 --> 03:51:29,020
reach out as well and is looking to help us get funding from the state funneled while I'm fighting

2887
03:51:29,020 --> 03:51:34,040
on the federal level for funding. So I just want to fully well in as I promised I would. It was exhausting

2888
03:51:34,040 --> 03:51:39,880
from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. for all of those days, but 100% worth it and I'm excited to see how we can

2889
03:51:39,880 --> 03:51:45,660
help our state on our police level and on public safety and crime prevention not just on our town. So, that's an update.

2890
03:51:45,860 --> 03:51:46,960
We'll go in. Can you?

2891
03:51:47,080 --> 03:51:48,780
The other castle.

2892
03:51:51,940 --> 03:51:52,500
Okay.

2893
03:51:59,400 --> 03:51:59,960
Sorry.

2894
03:52:00,540 --> 03:52:00,760
Sorry.