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[clears throat] called the um regularly
scheduled Wednesday, August 26th uh

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budget meeting to order. Um we will take
public comment, but I wanted to get the

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feel from everybody that's kind of here
so we get a little bit of a game plan.

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um just so it doesn't come up quick cuz
September comes up quick, October comes

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up quick, November we have to vote on
something and December we have to

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approve it.
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you know, I always say, you know, what
do we want to be known for? Um and and

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with Parkside, we have some some
opportunities as far as things, but with

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everything it all costs a little bit of
money. So, thank you, Chief, for

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bringing this in. It's actually a lot
nicer than I thought it would be.

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um as a 2025, right?
>> It is.

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» So, there's a lot of them out there,
>> yeah,

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» there's more than
that's a retask,

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» which is what we need for the grant.
>> So, the actual engine, transmission,

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drive line, and all that is 2025
>> is 2025.

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» And then they
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» but it's been rehabbed and re
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Look at the other pictures. You can see
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» it's all nice. Is this something you
guys take a look at or

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» Yes.
>> There we have

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» the ambulance. So
there are many out there between 160 to

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185.
>> Uh a striker uh stretcher system runs

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anywhere between 30 and 50,000. Um
everybody I talked to so far said it

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would take hours like that would be like
$32,000.

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So that's well in the whole budget of
the grant and lettering. So that were

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the three things that were in the grant.
The purchase of the ambulance, the

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stretcher system. The stretcher system
is to say it's a save backs.

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» Okay.
>> I mean, if you don't have that in there,

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I mean, then the workman's comp is going
to just keep the claims are just going

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to keep going.
>> Yeah.

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» I mean, I don't know if you know this or
anything, but the the patients are

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getting bigger today.

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I'm glad you came up. Half of this is to
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support firehouse.
>> Yeah.

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» Plus, this gives us an idea of the type
of ambulance cuz I'm learning too with

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being there. Um, you know, the smaller
ones that I have seen in our area, you

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can barely fit. um you got the patient
and then maybe enough for what one

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person
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» sometimes maybe two but then if you're
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have another second set of hands in
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» they they hate that ambulance
>> if not you know

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» Doug remember the van they have the van
type he'll tell you doing CPR in the

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back any room in the back of an
ambulance you're doing CPR it's to be

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crammed in that little they hate the MSC
hate. They're getting actually they're

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getting new ones in December.
>> Okay.

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» They're going to the box.
>> That's good

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» because we we did three trips to the
hospital doing CPR. In fact, there was

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three of us and all we did was fight
over each other and getting room.

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» Yeah.
>> So, we're practically laying on top of

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the patient at one point.
>> So, the box truck gives more room.

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» We have more room. You can have
>> you can have somebody on the one there's

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a chair on the one side that you can sit
in like this little cubby they and you

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have the other side you have a bench
seat so it just more room.

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» Okay.
>> Nobody wants nobody wants the vans

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anymore. It was a good concept if you're
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[clears throat] everything else it's
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you got anything for us? Um I don't I
know um at [clears throat] the last uh

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workshop I gave Chief and Kieran uh some
homework. I if you if council didn't see

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he did send an email out kind of going
over how

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a fourth officer would
um affect the budget based on last

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year's calculations.
>> Yeah, I think I read over some of that.

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I didn't print it out and bring it. I
have a copy and you need to read it or

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» you did have a copy.
>> Maybe you want to summarize a little bit

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of it for us and thank you for coming
out. It's the first time seeing it so

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sure. [laughter]
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» we'll give you a chance to read.
>> Yeah, if you don't mind. I'm sorry. I'm

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happy. It's fine.
>> We'll we'll go we'll go to jump to Theo

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because I know you had some stuff that
you were looking at. The the biggest

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thing we got is we need a roof for this
building, but they don't have to. The

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the job they did to patch the leak was
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good. So, it may have bored us a couple
years. Maybe that's be depend on how

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friendly a vendor we have. But maybe we
should probably start planning to put

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some money away. Even if we break it
down over two or three years, just put

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estimate right now about 32 33k for a
roof.

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So maybe we we can try to put together
put put away 10 15 a year and maybe get

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it done in two years. Maybe
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we need to get next year cuz they did a
I seen the photos and I saw this then

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the work they did unless unless we have
a bad I think we should I think we

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probably should do it too.
>> And that's fantastic cuz I think your

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average roof like 25 year shingles or
something like that. I could be a little

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bit wrong but I I think that's what they
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» that's the put us right at 25 years. Um,
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» That's the biggest thing I got. I mean,
others just work around here, but we

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have a a grant that's pending. So, we
won't know the results of that for

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another month or so. So, depending on
what Lisa gets back, if we're able to

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get something, then I'm for the most
part cool. But now, I still like to get

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that work done. Okay. Um, and then other
than that, I mean, I want to put some a

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lot of other work I can get done using
the liquid fuse budget, but other only

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thing that's not covered. I do want to
get some welcome to park science signs

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hung up around town. Like, we're pretty
much non-existent to anyone who's not

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familiar with park science. I would like
to do that, which shouldn't be

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expensive. Signs probably two grand. So,
so I don't know that we just fit that

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within the normal budget or do we even
have to It's not a big ticket item.

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» No, it should fit what we had.
>> But that Yeah, everything else I can get

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liquid fuse.
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giant celebrations coming up, I would
imagine uh recreation's probably like

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probably relatively consistent.
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hasn't changed too much over the years.
just gradual basic cost of materials

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going up type thing.
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» And the good thing is we do have a very
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of donating when we do ask.
>> There was discussion about replacing a

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couple of the police vehicles. Yeah,
>> that's still in its interim um

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discussion, but I think that kind of
falls within what we typically, you

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know, years ago, we were we kind of sort
of agreed that we would have a

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three-year lease or a three-year
purchase and then we would replace every

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three years to kind of stay on, you
know, oh, we know for a fact this cost

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this, this cost that. Um the grant
helped us out two years ago. Was it two

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years ago now? I guess everything was
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» So, and those cars seem to be doing
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» Um,
>> yeah, they're doing all right. I mean,

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they're they're a newer model, so you
know, we're getting the the little the

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little recalls, but there's nothing like
not engines. It's oh, this light might

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go off, so we got to send it and get the
light off. It's all warranty stuff.

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So, I think that the two
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would be
um to replace his current vehicle be

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that Tahoe, the white Tahoe, and then to
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that was the code enforcement vehicle at
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So that would be
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of residual value as well.
>> Yeah. Did you I have a theme. Do you

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guys have that? But
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» Yeah, Bangor. Then it looks like there
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» that discuss both options.
>> I can get that photo copy to you if you

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want.
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went to It went to council.
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I could argue for why I think we need
cars. You the the money decision is a

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decision,
>> but I if I if I recall I think the

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Chief's Tahoe has been having some
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» Yeah. Those those it's the 2020 Taho.
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» Um in particular
um to the point that I know my wife's PD

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which actually that Tahoe Tom Murray
swiped from was supposed to go to Marple

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» and he made a call and swiped it and it
came to us. Um, but that round of Taho

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typically at a place like Marple, the
police will use them and they'll give

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them to like the roads department or the
[clears throat] building inspectors or

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whatever.
>> Um, they're not even they didn't even do

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that with those. They got
money was up, they got rid of them all

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together because just that that Tahoe is
a problematic Tahoe had because it's a

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variable um variable displacement
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So, I don't anticipate I believe the
chief is is looking at getting a new

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Tahoe, but you're not having that
problem with the new Taho. It's just

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it's that year was
>> Yeah. 2020 just manufacturing.

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» Yeah.
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tough.
>> And then the other vehicles just it's an

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Explorer. It's an unmarked version of
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» Yeah.
>> All right. And I think some of the

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building stuff actually year before we
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conditioning. So,
>> if that kind of stays, you can probably

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allocate a little bit more and say, "All
right, well, 15 15 new roof. Everybody

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um
everybody lives."

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» And when you're looking at the new roof,
is that also looking at insulating

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because we know you brought it up before
that there's no insulation really.

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» Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
>> Or is that just shingle replacement?

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Hi.
>> Um, I wasn't really sure if you even

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needed me here, but I just wanted to
make sure I was here to advocate for our

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police department and the the same
things um as you talked about before,

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the um uh personnel issue and the um the
vehicles. Um, one other thing, we were

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thinking of trying to raise the um,
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» Thank you for bringing that up.
>> Um, I believe they might be at

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16 or 17 and we were looking to raise it
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which
if I understand correctly, the school

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district still play pays half of that.
pay $10 or half.

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» Is it a flat rate or is it
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my notes are at home for that, but for
some reason when Pat and I spoke, I

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thought it was
>> there was a cap on it or something.

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» Either that or they were for some reason
$10 is standing out. I don't know. I'm

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trying to remember their pay rate. I
want to say it's 1617, but we talked

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about we were looking at other places
around us what they were going for.

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» A lot more. Yeah,

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» I don't know if it's 100% a budget
thing, but obviously when we're doing

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workshops, um Ken Goldstein had me over
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» Forest View and Tom Sweeney.
>> I don't know what we can do before

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school's in session because that's like
two weeks. Um but there is a little bit

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of a problem. I guess it was on the last
day of school, Dave, that you guys had

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that accident and then everybody was
going up and it was like crossing

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traffic. Um, I don't know if we need to
budget to have uh couple hundred feet of

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sidewalk installed on that one section
to keep the kids off the street or

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possibly make that one section one way
during school hours so that it would

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just be you wouldn't have that cross
traffic during school hours. So, I

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don't, you know, I'm just putting it out
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» Yeah. I I mean, my my whole thing with
the one way I'm just thinking

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either make I would say either make it
one way all the time

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rather than like trying to do one way
certain hours because somebody's going

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to be like
they didn't know.

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» No, I I I agree with you, but I I see a
lot Springfield's notorious for it and I

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guess it works for me because they have
all the different schools. Mhm.

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» It just said, you know, do not enter
during these couple hours.

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» Okay. How's that,
>> too?

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» You know, so I don't know where the law
falls on that, but it also

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» and then I was just thinking possibly
even if we had to just pick up 15 road

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cones and just say, "Hey, three foot off
the road." That way if the kids are

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inside them cones, but I'll take
anybody's advice on it. But I went there

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kind of on a non-school day with him at
like five o'clock and there I stood, you

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know, just off the curb and I was like,
"Oh, this is Dancing with the Devil."

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» Um because there's no sidewalk
>> if you're at like Il Island

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» and then you go towards Forest View. So
the kids don't go down to so the

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students don't don't go down to Edgemont
and cross or or kind of go up the

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street. And that might actually
get a little bit worse when the the

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stores are put in there because now
you're gonna have people turning in

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there and going up the street. And uh
I'm I'm sure it's not going to be an

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endless flow of traffic, but it's
certainly something to to uh bring up to

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as many people as possible kind of as
soon as possible.

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» Is that the bus stop you're talking
about?

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» No, it's the kids. So, um Ben, I forget
his last name. to him.

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» Yeah. Yeah. So, he crosses at like Main
Street, I guess, and then Ken is at uh

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basically like Circle and then they kind
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but there's no sidewalks that that that
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the street
>> during that. And it it was a a

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legitimate pain point because like on
the last day of school, somebody hit

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some telephone poles and then they went
kind of both ways. And and I I'm not

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trying to make rules based on outliers,
but just being there at like 5:00

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standing just off the sidewalk, I was
like, "Eh, this is this is sketchy." you

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know, and it wasn't, you know, it was
just there's not enough room between

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parking and two lanes of traffic for
people to pass and for pedestrians to be

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on the road. So, um,
>> putting a sidewalk there would also

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» it would be a burden to the homeowner
for sure.

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» Yeah. But the other thing is too once
you you're coming over into the street

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where it's going to be it's tight as it
is because of cars parked right there

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because I go down that way sometimes go
to the firehouse and if there's cars

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parked there like today there was one
sticking out because they were doing

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work on our street at a neighbor's house
and um it was hard to see around that

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corner but even if they don't park near
the end of the corner it's still like I

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can't go down there the same time
another car is coming up, especially

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depending on how big the vehicle is.
Then you got a sidewalk now going to go

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there, which would be great for the kids
cuz I remember walking there with Luke

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going to school and it was tough. I was
always in the street,

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» you know, going there. But um
>> I mean the sidewalk wouldn't necessarily

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come to the street.
>> No, no, no. It would just take up a

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little bit more cuz the property owner's
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» pretty good slope.
>> It's a pretty good slope. So you what

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would you do? Dig into that property
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would you put that sidewalk is what I'm
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» How much of an impact would a Peter just
make that section no parking?

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» It's there. Nobody parks on that side.
You mean on that one side on the right

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side?
>> That portion of this the section that

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you're discussing?
>> No.

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» No parking.
>> There's no parking on that section that

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I'm discussing.
>> There's none.

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» Yeah, there's just parking. You're
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to
>> there's two sides

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» between Garrison on Garrison and West
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» So there's two sides in between. They
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» say make no parking.
>> Yeah. It's still not It's

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still not a lot of room. It's still I
mean try to get

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» No, I agree with you. I get what you're
saying had a great deal of problems that

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I'm aware of. I mean you had a wreck but
we have wrecks everywhere.

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But once school starts, you're going to
send all the traffic down in that area,

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too. According to the map,
>> according to the map

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» that Pat put out, you're sending
everybody up Garrison and then up to

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Forest View
>> and up Chelton and over and then

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everybody's you're you're having all the
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» So now the crossing guard's going to be
overwhelmed over here

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[clears throat and cough]
>> and you have no crossing guard at

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Chelton and Tom Sweeney.

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No,
>> you mean Elon and Tom Sweeney. Tom

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Sweeney doesn't
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» So they're going to be coming down
Elbine turning onto Tom Sweeney to

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Forest View and coming out Sally Hazard
coming out to Edge Avenue and then all

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the traffic will cross over Edge Avenue.
According to the map they've taken.

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They're coming up Edge Avenue going past
the entrance to the school making a left

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across Edge Avenue onto Garrison down
Garrison making a left on Tom Sweeney up

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to Forest View and another left on
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» straight out.
>> What What is that from?

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» He it was on Facebook. He put it out
from the police department.

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» Well, I think that that was more of a
just beware the school's out. We're not

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directing traffic in any way of
>> No, no. I'm just saying that he was

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saying that's he was sending it to the
school to tell him the people dropping

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their kids off. That's how he wanted
them to drop their kids off.

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» It was a suggestion.
>> It was a right. It was suggestion.

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That's why Facebook.
>> He put on Facebook. It's

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» under the Parkside Police.
>> Parkside Police Facebook, not any

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neighbor putting it out. It came out
from Parkside Police.

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» Yeah, it came out from Parkside Police.
>> Well, it's definitely going to put more

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traffic.
>> Let Let me look into that cuz I I don't

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think that that's the intention.
>> No, I I haven't had a chance to see

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that. That was what I asked.
>> It's a suggestion. I think

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» I think it was just a matter of
reminding people the school zones are

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there and the arrows ended up being
there. I don't believe cuz I'm the one

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running the school detail for the first
two weeks. We have no intention of

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telling people or suggesting to people
how they park or how they drive

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» other than other than slow down.
>> Right. I was under the same impression

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though until I saw that on Facebook and
I thought wow Pat I haven't seen Pat. I

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was going to ask him, was this something
that you're actually looking at doing or

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because now you're sending all the
traffic, especially up that one section

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between Garrison and Forest View that
the kids will be walking up to

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Crossover.

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I know it's not budget related, but I
appreciate the conversation because it

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was something that was weighing on me
and now there does seem to be other

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factors. So, [laughter]

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um,
>> and it's just

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» always welcome. Anytime you come, it's
always a help. It's always nice to see

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you. I'm just saying I have bur
residents who said I said they asked me

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about it and I said I don't think that's
[laughter]

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I said that might be a suggestion but I
said I haven't had a chance to talk

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» it's none of those
>> I said I haven't had a chance to talk

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» Yeah I can assure you it's none of those
>> it's none of those we're not there's

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that was actually not even Pat that was
put out by Lex

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Lex puts Lex handles our Facebook and
and social media so okay

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» so that wasn't even actually
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» that's fine it It was a reminder. It was
a reminder of

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» the school zone and kids being out to be
careful.

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» That's what that is.
>> Yeah. I wish they uh there was a little

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more car pooling cuz when I bring the
kids in the building, it's always one

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car, one kid. One kid.

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» It does have a bunch of arrows and stuff
on here. I think it's just confusion.

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You know what I mean? Residents. Yeah,
it's there's arrows and everything on

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there, but I was trying to read the verb
the verbiage that was at the top.

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» So, if that's what residents are saying,
and I don't I think they're getting

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confused.
>> Well, there

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I have nothing to do I have nothing to
do with traffic saying that.

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» I have nothing to do with traffic.
>> We should put another one right here.

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» X here.

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X
>> looks like a good start to a tic tac t.

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» Do you want us to ask her and clarify?
>> Yeah, cuz there have been questions and

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residents have stopped at the fire
company with these questions as well.

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» Okay.
>> So, um

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they might be getting confused with the
arrows cuz you see blue arrows, you see

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red arrows. So, I mean, unless he's
saying don't do the red the that

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direction or whoever, whoever. I'm just
saying I'm just reading what's on here.

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» There's the blue. There's the red. And I
think they're just confused. Um, so I

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mean, I get it cuz I've talked to
Pat about different things, but traffic

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wise, I haven't. I've only talked to
Ken. I don't want to I don't want to sat

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down everybody that comes to here and go
to Barl Hall. Go to Bar Hall.

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Bob's going to be calling me going,
"Stop sending people to Bar Hall.

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» He's [clears throat] going to lock the
door on my not my calls no more.

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» Bob does a good job.
>> He does a great job.

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» Let's not anger Bob."
>> Yeah. [laughter]

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I try to take it as much as I can off of
this.

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» Um,
>> hey, if it's a brief meeting, I

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appreciate everybody from for for coming
in, helping out. Some of these

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discussions definitely help.
>> Um, we will definitely have a few

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executive sessions when we start getting
into into September and a few things

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like that just to kind of keep things
rolling. Mayor, if you can make it.

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» Yeah, absolutely.
>> Invited. You're always invited.

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» Thank you. and thanks for starting this
early in the year.

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» I think we've had enough. Hopefully,
it's helping with you and then the

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conversations with Pranker Simpson and
and a few things like that because there

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is some there's definitely things that
are moving. The whole police department

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is being
>> basically renovated after the flood and

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a little bit of things like that. Um
everything so far is fitting into the

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budget. Um but that doesn't mean that we
just start kind of

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throwing it out there. So, does anybody
have anything?

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» I have that information that I was able
to look at it.

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» Oh, yeah. Just give us a brief

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» I got I got to wear mine the whole time
now.

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» Well, I'm wearing contacts
[laughter]

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» behind you.
Um, so I think I believe it was you were

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as you asked for information regarding
if we were to have it for full-time

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officers and full-time investigator,
what would that do with overtime and and

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things like that?
>> And it appears the chief

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put together
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based on past hours. So, what he's
saying is, and I can I can speak to I

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what the intent of of an investigator
would be, aside from investigating,

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um would be being able to fill the holes
uh created by planned time off. Mhm.

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» Um
so he's saying if you look at the

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overtime acred
uh over the last year um I cost you the

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most. Um at 12,48248
uh Mark had a great ticket. He picked up

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a lot of shifts. Um Charlie was at 3,000
and surplus or Michelle was at 1,000

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um because she was uh non-Ivil service
employee. Um

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so his saying is that the the savings in
overtime would roughly be 27,733.

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Um, and his numbers on that are
generated by

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being able to say, so if Officer Young's
taking, if Charlie's taking off a week

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in June,
well, the detective can just shift his

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schedule and cover, you know, just not
do detectively things or not do as many

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detective things and cover Charlie's
shift for those weeks. Thereby, you're

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not having to pay OT.
>> And that was that was it. So, I can give

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this to you because otherwise I can
regurgitate it to you and read it if you

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like or I can hand you a copy and you
can you can look at it. Um, but that

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that's essentially the gist of it. The
the point being

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um
to have four patrol officers at a detent

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is what what the the end goal would be
and have those as full-time officers,

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civil service officers.

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» Fully staffed, I guess, is what they
were saying the term was.

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» That would be fully staffed. So, what
that would do is we work one patrol

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officer per shift
and that officer works 12 hour shifts.

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That's the only way to cover 24/7
coverage with four people is 12-hour

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shifts.
>> Mhm.

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» Um if you
fitting spaghetti into a bowl, doesn't

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matter how you cut it up, you still got
to cover 27 or 24hour shifts seven days

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a week. And then your detective would
handle not only detecting

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um which we have a fair amount of, but
there's a lot of other evidence

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training. Um
because right now the way it works is

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um
so like Monday

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Alexis is doing a background
investigation and she has to drive to

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Kalen Township as part of that
background investigation and she's

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scheduled to work. So now we either
bring her in on Tuesday or we bring her

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on Wednesday and pay her overtime to do
that. Or typically

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um if you have that investigator either
he'd be doing it or she'd be doing it or

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they could cover the street that would
allow that officer to to go do what they

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you know what they need to do that's not
in town or that is not requiring them to

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be a slave to the radio.
But the budget to obviously if you hire

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more people it cost you more money.
I'm not going to try to tell, oh, you're

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saving money, but there would be a
reduction in certain portions of the

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budget by hiring those people.

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Food for thought. That's why we're
meeting in August, why we're meeting in

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September and October. Um, try to keep
things moving. Obviously, we don't have

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to fill the cup all at one time, but got
to keep it moving in the right

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direction. So,

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we have no public comment which is
something hopefully we get in September.

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It's nice to have your feet to the fire
a little bit like that. You have

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anything else?
>> No, I'm good.

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» When's the September meeting again?
>> September meeting would be

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should always be the fourth Wednesday,
one week after the meeting

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» 23rd.
The 16th is a council meeting. So, the

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23rd
>> be the 23rd. September 23rd at 7 p.m.

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» That'll be the first official budget.
>> Yeah. We'll see if we can ask somebody

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from Brinker Simpsons in here. Um we
certainly won't have the first reading

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or anything like that, but we certainly
could have um as a template type sort of

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thing
based

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heavily off of last year's numbers just
to keep things

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» and just to remind everybody even when
we had that um first official meeting

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everything is just a work in progress.
Um there are no official documents

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because nothing is official at that
point. So there's nothing that'll be

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posted on the website or anything like
that until we have the first reading of

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the budget.
>> Yeah. Sharing anything is just purely

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misinformation. Like obviously we're
televising it but none of this is

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codified.
>> This these are purely workshops

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discussion
>> but if somebody watches it on TV and

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says hey [clears throat] I think I'd
like to go to the September one because

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I have an idea then that's then we gave
them something to talk about.

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So, thank you all for coming up. I
appreciate everything. We'll consider

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this a journey.