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It's a very popular motion of public hearing.

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It's a good person.

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We're going to go ahead and get going so if I ask everybody to take seats and you'll

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play the time to look at the boards and they'll be up here too in a minute so this is kind

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an update meeting on the Highway 9 project, they'll be more of them because it's going to be

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a long project that takes quite a while. I think you'll probably hear this when they show

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the schedule, but we probably won't actually start construction till the middle of 2027.

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So there'll be a lot of planning, a lot of discussion with you guys and folks downtown.

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So without the kind of two things we're trying to do today is one is Chris is going to give an update on kind of where we are what we've been doing over the last few months and what's coming up.

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And then specifically going to talk about some of the just get some input on some of the options for what the street scape looks like.

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the first street Plaza how that looks like just to get input so we find out more what's

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important what's not important so with that I'm going to turn it over to Chris and then

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so afterwards then I'll be time for questions and then after that you can go look at the

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boards ask questions a staff will be over there so thank you mayor I'm Chris Klein with

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influence of landscape architects and planners with me tonight is Anthony and Andrew both on our

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staff as well as GBA staff Sam and Lucas. So afterwards if you have questions about specific

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things we can go over to a board and try to answer questions one on one if you'd like if you're

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not comfortable asking a question in front of the whole crowd you're going to have time to talk with

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up by the boards as well so thank you for all of you attending here in person and those of you

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at home online watching appreciate your input and taking time to provide your thoughts and ideas for

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improving downtown. Tonight we'll we'll give an update on where we are overall with the project we'll talk

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about some of the decisions that we're already made and then the decisions that need to be made going

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forward. A lot of what we're going to be talking about tonight are the things that happen

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above the ground. Last time we talked about roadways moving around and that issue has been

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settled. I'll walk through a lot of the coordination that's continued to happen on that front.

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But tonight and going forward the the input on the things that you're going to see above the ground.

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What do we want the streetscape to look like? How does that reflect downtown Parkville?

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it's character, it's history, and then some new spaces that we have in downtown to work with

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and we want to get some input on those as well. Everything that we're presenting tonight is

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loaded online, the same interactive website that folks have been used to providing input throughout

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this process. You'll continue to go to that same site. We do have QR codes up here so you'll be able

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get there, go online, give us your comments, and I'll walk through and answer, give you a

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primer of what is included in that engagement website, and we'll talk about next steps.

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As a reminder, the three goals for the project that we're set up at the outset were to provide

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an enhanced pedestrian-friendly environment in downtown, support downtown economic development

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community events and then third improved traffic flow to and through downtown

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Parkville. So those were our three goals, everything that we're doing with

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regard to decisions on the roadways and the streetscape and the aesthetic

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considerations all support one or more of those three goals.

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We aren't starting the

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process right now, we started this process almost a year to the day. So December 9th

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of 2024 was our first public meeting where we started talking about the roadways and what could

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We had two other public meetings, one in March, one in June, to follow up on those ideas and

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concepts.

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We had the engagement website up, we had lots of public input throughout that process.

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There were a number of options being considered.

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We took that decision to the Board of Alderman, they weighed all the pros and cons of all

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decisions and move forward with a concept B. And I'll go over that in a second. So this is

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the aerial view of downtown. So North is up, Main Street here, East Street, First Street,

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Second Street, railroad tracks. And then the farmer's market is just right here. So our project

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encompasses this area. We're trying to work on nine highway and improve the traffic flow of nine

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way, but if you recall, we also had the amount of east-west traffic that cuts through downtown

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and the number of growing developments and new housing that is happening out west this.

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Increasing the amount of traffic using FF cutting through downtown and how that's going to continue to grow over time as those properties continue to develop, like thousand oaks and other neighborhoods out to the west.

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This was concept B. It was approved at the end of the last session of public meetings. It involves re-aligning nine highway here just a little bit and then creating a brand new intersection.

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This is the train depot, the fountain, and then a roadway connection, a new road that will

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come in here behind the fire station, and then continue behind level builders and Bentley

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guitar in this block here to connect the main street, and then you'll have this short

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jog over to River Road and FF Highway.

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That allows East Street to become a right-in right out here with nine highway.

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This will be a divided median out here for nine high weight. We're looking at options for this stretch of the median

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We don't want there to be a break there, so it's likely that it's gonna be a continuous median

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But this portion of the median will be able to be driven over by the fire trucks to get out and head to the north

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And so we're still working through some of those options for what that looks like

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because of the the rewark here and most of that east-west traffic flow

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cutting through here east street as an opportunity to turn into a new

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pedestrian plazin park space and so we're we're looking at some options for

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that that we want to get input on tonight.

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the website as well. We've got two public meetings during this portion of the

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planning process. Tonight, where we're going over the information related to some of these decisions,

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we're going to come back in the summer of this year and come back with, here's what we heard

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from the community, here's the types of events and the input that you've all given gives us time

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to go back and create some drawings and some additional concepts and change what you see here

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to reflect the input that you give us tonight. We'll come back and share where we are in that

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and say, here's the recommendations based on all that input for streetscape for the Plaza space for the overall project.

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And we'll share that as a design update.

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We've finished the preliminary plans, which we finished last fall or this fall.

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We're anticipating submittals sometime in the spring of this year, so in the next two to three months.

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We do have some initial plans that we've already submitted to Modot for them to look through and coordinate with, as well as the railroad.

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I'll talk about that in a second.

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Once we get comments back from them, we can tighten up the drawings a little bit.

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where we're going to need permanent easements, where we might need some additional right away.

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There's a handful of properties along a couple of these roots that might have an impact here or there.

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And so there will be some initial conversations that happen with those property owners as part of the separate process that's combined with this effort.

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And again, the input that you give us tonight will help us to craft those final plans.

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Those are anticipated to be submitted in early 2027.

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So when we come back in the summer and say, here's what we heard.

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Here's how we interpreted it, did we get it right?

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We've got an opportunity to make some final little adjustments

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and get those plans ready to submit in early 2027.

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There's some final steps you have to go through with modots process

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and then begin construction in the fall.

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maybe summer of 2027, but we're anticipating fall at this point.

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there's been a lot of work on the roadway side.

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The roadway infrastructure, there's a lot of issues that we have to work through,

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the street geometry, all the turning radius,

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we have a lot of discussions about trucks and being able to turn

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We've been working through all of those issues.

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We're looking at intersection bumpouts throughout the downtown area.

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These are very similar to what a lot of

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Towns have been doing over the last 20 years

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in terms of improving the street infrastructure to serve downtown

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and I'll share some examples of that here next.

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But the placement of these bumpouts is generally at those intersections

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where right now the curb line might be right here on both sides and it's a lot longer

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for pedestrians to cross over the street because you're walking the full length of the

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parking stall then the roadway and then the parking stall and then the sidewalk so

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you're walking on a 60 feet across the road from one sidewalk to the next whereas if you

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You get this down to about 24 to 25 feet.

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It's just a lot less area to have to navigate as a pedestrian.

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if any impact to existing on street parking stalls.

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It doesn't come at the expense of parking.

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we ask folks, do you want more parking it

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or do you want more pedestrian space?

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where we have those options and folks really came in almost in the middle and

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said we really want a blend of both we want as much parking as we can get but we

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want the sidewalks to be comfortable to accommodate shoppers and make it feel

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comfortable for folks to spend more time and downtown. So right now as we look

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at all of the parking spaces that are out here today in this area there's about

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sixty-seven. Within that whole area, I was almost going to make a six-seven joke and I decided

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not to. So, sixty-seven stalls and then proposed sixty-six stalls. So, as we've gone through

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and tightened things up here and there, refined, tried to eat out as many parking stalls

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As we can, we've got 66 stalls here and that includes the ramp areas that need to occur.

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You've got to stripe out one of those stalls for handicap or accessible stalls.

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And so taking that into account with one of those at each one of these locations,

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don't know if there'll be two handicap spots in each for just one,

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but it impacts one of those parking spaces in both spots.

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We're getting 66.

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So pretty good. I mean, it's as close as existing as possible.

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So, good news is, with all those bumpouts, with the ability for folks to cross the street at those locations, it makes downtown a lot more pedestrian friendly.

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It has opportunities for green space and pedestrian use, and we still accommodate as much parking as we can get throughout the entire area.

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There's been work on the culverts, you know that Al-O-Wai-Dallow Creek runs down here

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from Risley, in the nature sanctuary, it runs down here through this culvert underneath

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nine highway today, and it makes its way over to a small culvert that's underneath the railroad

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tracks right behind the fire station. What we're proposing to do is to build onto that

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over it and then build this roadway on top so this will act as one overall

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covert and then we'll have a driveway access going over here to the the

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train depot area and I'll show you that next.

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Mode.coordination we've been working with them on all these turning movements

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what what their thoughts are on these intersections with the new signal we've been

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working with the railroad on everything related to their property edge along with some right

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away issues and I'll touch on those here in a second and then fire district, coordination,

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you'll recall previously we've talked about what the fire stations plans are for improving

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the fire station they want to eventually build another bay of the building over here and

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have the ability to put in garage doors on both sides of this bay, the existing one, and then

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the new bay. So there would be two bays that would have doors on the front and the back.

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And that would allow fire trucks to then pull in from the rear and pull straight in and then be

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ready to go once there's an event. They could do that in either direction if they if they chose,

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But they've got enough room out here to park their fire trucks and to accommodate those those uses and then FEMA

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We've got a coordinate with FEMA on all of the stormwater issues and any environmental issues as a part of the project

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I mentioned the bump outs

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There's lots of examples throughout the metro area

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One of the first ones that I worked on was in downtown Lee Summit and that was scush

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almost 25 years ago, so at that point we looked at bumping out at the intersections, it

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helps to better define those parking stalls that are on the street so that folks aren't

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just driving right into the back of one of these cars that's parked, helps to define that

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drive lane as well as the defines the public space that happens at the bumpouts.

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And so we went from these kinds of drawings to actually build images.

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Again, that reduced crossing with is very helpful.

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And then you can see historically, here's one of the buildings there at third street

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and market back in the day before the bumpouts were built.

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And then this is it after they were built.

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You can see those bumpouts on either side, see the same building.

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They had some cladding up here that they tore off and went back to a more historic look for that building on the corner

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but it just creates

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nicer space here for pedestrians to use

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for a stroller to pull off and take care of something that if they need to and not block the flow of traffic on the sidewalk

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and it's just a nice place to place amenities and other things that make it more conducive to downtown shopping.

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A similar example in North Kansas City, a little closer to home, and a little more recent.

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These are the bumpouts that were out there previously.

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This is what's proposed and what got built.

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And so we let the design work out there as well to refresh and redefine some of those bumpouts

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throughout their downtown area.

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So again, you're trying to find that balancing act between pedestrian usage and safety

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as well as the definition of those parking stalls.

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So this is a snapshot of what some of the engineering drawings that are currently underway

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for the downtown area. You can see we've got a three lane section for this portion of the roadway,

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and then it converts to a two lane section here, just south of Bentley and level builders.

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this three lane section allows for a center turn lane that's shared for folks that

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are coming up here to either turn right or turn left to head north on nine

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highway so there's a lot of stacking there and then someone coming down here

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that wants to go to the park or an area to the south and need the shops that are

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down here they'll make a left turn at this location and so there's room for

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stacking to occur and we can adjust that stacking lane in whichever way we need to

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based on the traffic needs but this is where the traffic modeling shows that it should

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be to balance the turning movements. Then there are also those folks that are going to be turning

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left and potentially waiting for a train will stack up here. The folks that are heading through

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or turning right will use this lane and then they'll either turn right or they'll continue on

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straight through here, and then turn right here,

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either head north on main or over to FF.

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We can see the culvert here,

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and then this area in yellow,

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you'll recall there was some discussion

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about the right away limits and what the railroad

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has in their right away plans versus what the city has

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in their right away plans.

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And those went back to the 1800s.

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There was a lot of back and forth

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between GBA surveyors and the railroad. We've confirmed with them that this area in yellow is the

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area that both parties agree. This is where the right away is and then we've confirmed with the railroad

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working through a use agreement. They're going to still have this as their right away,

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but they're going to grant the city ability to use portions of that right away.

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One of which is for the depot, there's a brick patio back there that's between the depot building and the tracks and that was historically used for people to go out and get on the train.

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While the fence line is down here next to the tracks, the right-away line and it cuts halfway through that patio.

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And so if we don't get a use agreement, the railroad would say, hey, you shouldn't use that other half of the patio.

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So, the user agreement will cover the ability for whoever's in this building to use the full patio

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for us to be able to make a connection for a driveway so that this whole facility here feels like it's part of the rest of downtown

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and you can get there, you don't have to go to the highway and then come back.

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So that connectivity as well as the roadway that's being built here.

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And the culvert that goes underneath, we're going to be connecting to that existing culvert. You can see it angles up here a little bit and the throat of that culvert will allow this water to come in here a little bit more efficiently than it does today.

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There's a slight decrease in the amount of water that will be in this area because this

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is a little bit more efficient for that water to get in there so it's a slight

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betterment of the drainage flow through that area, but there's been a lot of coordination

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on that issue as well.

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Then the placement of that three lane roadway allows for plenty of room here for the driveway

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length so that the fire station can park their vehicles here and make their way through their

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facility the way that they want to. And then you can see the rest of how the bump outs are

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starting to work through and be located where we're confined on street parking spaces. Main street

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we pretty much kept the number of stalls the same. There may be one stall difference between

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existing and proposed, but there might be a spot where we might be able to capture another

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stall.

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So we're still working through that as we think about where that handicap or the accessible

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parking could occur here in the same token, some accessible parking that could happen

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here.

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But you can see we've captured a lot of additional on-street parking on east street that

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could support uses and activity that are happening in that area.

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And then the fire district coordination, we did have a meeting with the representatives from the fire district showed on these diagrams.

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These are their larger truck and how it can make its way out of the facility to go in whichever direction they want to go.

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And they can come from whichever direction they want to to come back into the facility on the south and still park the whole vehicle out here on the driveway.

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So these were some of the diagrams that we shared with them.

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We also talked about the parking lot here.

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Currently people can drive all the way through this parking lot,

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whether you're with the fire district or not.

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You could just follow somebody and cut right on through.

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Decided we don't want that to happen.

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We don't want people to use that as a cut through.

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So the intent here is to get rid of this driveway,

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access up here, extend that sidewalk and put some additional green space up here, which

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will allow them to park a couple cars there that they can't do right now, because that's

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a drive lane, and so they'll come in from the south, and that'll clean this area up a

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little bit on the north side. I think they still have plans to expand the building, but they

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haven't designed anything that they've shared with us yet, but just what happens on this

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property, there's a lot of room here available to accommodate their expansion and some building

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of some kind that could happen here as a result of that.

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Is there anyone here from the fire district or no, okay, I know we did meet with them and

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had a good meeting with them, they were supportive of this concept and again the coordination

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with the railroad and mode out. All of those things were things that we heard loud and clear from

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the Board of Alderman. They said, we like concept B, we wanted to move forward, but if

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there's some fatal flaw in it that's going to keep it from happening, if we're going to fail,

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let's fail fast. Go find those answers out. We've been working diligently with all of those agencies.

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We've gotten the green light from all of them so far. We're continuing to work on those

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details to tie up the paperwork that goes with all of that, but the good news is we've

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gotten the green light to continue on with that, and that's what we're doing.

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I mentioned the right away process existing and proposed, so that involves temporary construction

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easements and permanent easements.

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This is just an example of what one of those plans looks like.

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You kind of go in and highlight the areas of additional right away that you would need,

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permanent right away, where you might need temporary construction easements,

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where you might need some permanent easements, that process.

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Again, we anticipate that starting in early 2026.

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There will be a initial contact with any affected property owners,

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related to the scope and estimated project limits just what's that impact going to be.

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So they'll have initial discussion.

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The plans will continue to develop.

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We'll dial in the dimensions of the work and the amount of right away and easements needed.

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And then the property owner will be contacted again with the final designs along with the discussion about acquisition.

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But there's a full process that we have to follow from modots perspective to go through that.

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and we're almost ready to start having those formal conversations.

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So if you are impacted in any way,

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you will be contacted, you'll be notified,

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that will have those conversations that occur.

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It just doesn't occur in a big open process like this

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because it's part of mode-outs process

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for projects like this.

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And then the public realm, the streetscape,

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the way finding the promenade itself,

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which is out here where first street is,

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All of those things are things that we want to input from the rest of you and and from the the entire public and so

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We know we're not starting from scratch. You you probably recognize some of these images from the previous

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Round of public engagement. We talked about site furnishing options paving landscaping lighting

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We had

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Place making elements art elements and we had everybody rank those and tell us which ones were most important

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We, it's likely that we're not going to have the full budget and be able to afford everything that we want,

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day one, but the goal is to design all of the things that we think are needed out here,

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so that we can easily plug and play the things that we can afford today.

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That we can afford those in the future.

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And a case in point is way finding signage or something that needs lighting or electrical.

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Well, if we don't design all those elements now, and we just, we put pavement out everywhere,

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and then two-year-ish and now three-year-ish and now we decided, you know what, it's

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a good idea.

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Let's put some way-finding signage in or let's, let's have some lights and things.

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Well, if we don't think about where those conduits need to run and where the wires need

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to go, we're going to be out there tearing up stuff we just built to put in new things.

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and we don't want to do that. The the prudent things to design those things now. Let's

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think about that as a part of this process, how all these pieces and parts come together.

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And then let's put in the infrastructure and the things underground to support where those things could

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happen. And then if

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Things like signage, which was lower on the list, or art elements. If those things are things that we could add later, a will have a cost bid from a contractor that said, if we'd have built it, here's what it would have cost.

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We've got all the infrastructure put in as a part of the base bid and then we can eventually go out and get some funding from a grant or something that could help to build some of those things in the future.

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But lighting, landscape, site furnishings, paving, those were the top four that the public said.

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We really want those things and then if we can get some of these other elements in the

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base project, great, and if we can't, let's try to put them in in this order.

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So that was the grant results and we're planning on still using that as we go through the process.

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Now the point is, well what do we do with the streetscape, what do we do with the

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We've, none of these designs that we're sharing are perfect.

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We don't think these are ready to build today.

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What we wanted to do is to create some concepts,

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share them with you and say,

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what do you think of this approach versus that approach?

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And then we can go through and do all the final design of everything.

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So three concepts for streetscape one is a fairly small area of decorative papers, maybe

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a foot long or foot wide band of papers right at the back of curb.

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The rest of the sidewalk would be concrete and then you can see placement of trees and

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lights and things that will happen.

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So, that one's kind of a bear bones, a little bit of decorative paving, mostly concrete,

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or do we expand that out to a three-foot section of pavers with concrete adjacent to it,

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or do we try to build the entire sidewalk at a brick pavers?

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What's out there today has a reminder, concrete pavers that fade over time, and they start

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to degrade a little bit over time as well.

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And we're kind of at that point where they're starting to show their age and their wear.

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What we'd recommend is to go in with clay pavers, like we did in downtown Lee Summit.

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If you have a chance to go to look at downtown Lee Summit, look at those pavers that are

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out there.

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They look almost as good as they did the day they went in.

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They don't degrade, they don't fade, they hold their color.

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And so they cost a little bit more to put them in, but they're going to last a long time if we build it right.

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So that's what we're proposing is clay payers throughout the downtown.

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This question is, do we want to spend a lot of money on replacing the entire sidewalk with brick or do we want to use concrete and some brick?

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And then the money we would have spent on full sidewalks, maybe we can spend that on lighting or more trees and more landscape for those kinds of things.

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So that's that's one of the questions.

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We think about the the promenade space and what could first

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street turn into. Again, we're gonna have three concepts that we want to share with you. None of them

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is right. None of them is perfect. They're just a stimulate thought. What do you think of this one?

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What do you think of that? Tell us what you like and you don't like. But we want to think about a theme

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And we want to think what makes Parkville different and more unique than other communities in the Metro.

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And at least one of the things that drew us to want to move here and live in Parkville was the proximity to the river and the best riverfront park in the entire Metro.

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If not the Midwest, this is a great location and this connection to the river.

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That's the smooth flowing lines, there might be some inspiration that we could draw from that could make its way into the design of that plaza space as a nod towards that connection to the river.

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The other one that we started thinking about was Park, the founder of Park University, George Park, and the namesake behind Park University in Parkville.

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I haven't really seen a connection to Park in the downtown area, but he was an influential

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figure.

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Is there an ability to maybe do something that honors him and strengthen that connection

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between the university and Parkville in the downtown area?

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That's somehow there's a celebration of that connection.

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So, do we think about a statue as of him, as an art element,

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the interesting thing about

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him and out in front of the VFW Hall, you see the printing press that's out there.

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That was the name of the newspaper that he put out back in the day, the industrial luminary.

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It was the name of that paper and that's what, you know, they threw the printing press

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In the river, there's a whole history and story about that whole connection, but the name

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industrial luminary kind of popped up, we said, well, what does that mean from, you know,

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lighting, it creates some angular lines, is that something that we might want to play off of?

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How does that work as a design concept?

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There's lots of other inspirations out there as well, so that's why we wanted to ask the

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question, here's a couple things that we're using as inspiration, are there other things

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that you want us to consider and think about.

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You think about that industrial luminary concept and just the use of materials in the area

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stone and brick, the use of the railroad tracks, metal, maybe some wood that warns it up

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a little bit, makes it feel fairly traditional in the downtown area, integrating art.

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But one of the things we found was interesting in looking at some of these elements, there's

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lots of examples of carts or seating that could be put on wheels that could be flexible

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and be able to be moved around on the site, and so we're thinking about those.

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So, some early renditions of how to interpret some of those ideas into the design of the

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plaza.

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So, I mentioned that Missouri River kind of connection that concept, this smooth flowing

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lines of the water, and then this other side of the plaza space might take on this more

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curving, undulating shape, where the waters maybe have receded from the bank a little bit

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and create these areas for people to sit and gather, have conversations, large open plaza space

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that could be used for events, festivals, things like that that could happen in the downtown

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and be an extension of that sidewalk environment. But then we're also thinking about the

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Distance, and the businesses that are adjacent to this area today, we pretty much have what a five-foot sidewalk or so on each side, and then just that two-lane street, but we could allow for some of those restaurants to spill out into that plaza space and use that for restaurant seating.

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There's a whole host of policy decisions and discussions that the city needs to make decisions

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on on how that space is managed, how that relationship works with those adjacent property

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owners.

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We're finding some examples to share with the city as well and just how other communities

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that have converted a street into a public-plazza space, how have they made those decisions,

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how they managed it?

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some communities like to put a designated fence with the self-locking gate and customers could

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buy food in alcohol within that area but they can't take it outside of that space.

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Other communities have said well maybe we designated certain zone that allows folks to carry

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a drink from one place to another. There's lots of different ways to do it and there's pros and

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to all of those. So that'll be part of the discussion and we're doing some more research on that

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and just what are the best practices, what are lessons learned from some other communities

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to help guide that. But getting back to the design side, what do we want to see happen

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with these? Do we want to allow those businesses to expand out? So in some cases it could just be

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movable seating and others. This could be like a high table or something like a drink rail

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that could help to define that edge.

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So again, we're just kind of thinking about what those spaces could become and what they might look like.

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So here it is put into more of a simulated model that we're developing and some visuals of what that looks like,

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what that could look like. It looks a lot different than what it could look like, which is the street there today.

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But we wanted to give everybody a sense of scale of how big that space is, what we think

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some of the opportunities are for that there for integrating landscape and a hard

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scape.

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And some other views from down more to pedestrian level of that particular concept.

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These next two kind of playoff of that angular light pattern.

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In this case, we've got sidewalks up adjacent to the street to those businesses, and then pretty much

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planters out here that take on that angular form.

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They're straight on the back to help define that existing sidewalk line.

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But out here in the middle of the plaza, they take on these undulating angle forms to create another way to get through in the middle.

422
00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:31,080
And then potentially a large green space,

423
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,160
some astrater for something that could accommodate

424
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,140
wear and tear and allow folks to play yard games and things like that.

425
00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:42,020
And then some integrated seating and areas of shade.

426
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,620
And again, what that looks like once we start taking it into

427
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:51,680
some modeling and how that would feel.

428
00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:56,980
In all cases, we're thinking of lights that hang over the street

429
00:40:56,980 --> 00:41:03,080
connect from one side to the other, likely on their own set of poles instead of trying

430
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:09,770
to connect to the buildings and just how that space would function.

431
00:41:10,990 --> 00:41:18,110
And then this last one, the third one, plays off of that angular concept a little bit, but

432
00:41:18,110 --> 00:41:24,870
kind of creates more of a hard-scape area on one side where we take those seeding elements that

433
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:31,630
roll together. So this is an example and there's several examples we found where these could

434
00:41:31,630 --> 00:41:37,330
have wheels on them and could roll and lock in place to kind of create a stage but then you roll

435
00:41:37,330 --> 00:41:43,830
them apart and you can lock them back in place where they go so they just look like seats out here

436
00:41:43,830 --> 00:41:49,390
during the day. So something that would have some flexibility it still feels like it's built all the

437
00:41:49,390 --> 00:41:54,710
time but is designed to be modular and flexible to be able to be moved and

438
00:41:55,530 --> 00:42:01,790
recrafted to make that space function for whatever that event is. Again,

439
00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:05,910
seating out here adjacent to the existing businesses. Maybe you have landscape

440
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:11,330
touch. Some of those businesses where we don't have doors, encourage these to

441
00:42:11,330 --> 00:42:16,510
feel a little bit more private and not people trying to walk through each area.

442
00:42:16,510 --> 00:42:22,590
So, so you'll see somewhere we keep that sidewalk all the way, consistent across, others

443
00:42:22,590 --> 00:42:27,910
where we touch some of the landscape and try to push folks to come back out to the middle.

444
00:42:28,850 --> 00:42:33,250
So again, just testing the concepts a little bit, thinking about how that space might be used

445
00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:35,430
and want to get your input on that.

446
00:42:35,710 --> 00:42:40,170
And then think about how that space relates to pocket park over here,

447
00:42:40,430 --> 00:42:44,650
and the crossing over to existing pocket park where Mark Twain and Bill Griggs

448
00:42:44,650 --> 00:42:51,930
you're welcoming everybody. And then over here to the east, does it come across east

449
00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:57,230
street over to that corner at nine highway? Do we do something over there to begin

450
00:42:57,230 --> 00:43:00,930
that or continue to tell that story? Whatever that story is.

451
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:03,980
And again, how this

452
00:43:03,980 --> 00:43:09,200
one looks like once you start building it into some models you get a sense of what

453
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,720
that space might feel like. It is a little bit more open down here and then those

454
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,100
things could roll together.

455
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,240
We think about way finding signage.

456
00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:26,580
Right now there is some way finding signage out there.

457
00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:27,940
It's a little bit hard to read.

458
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,940
I think we want to work on the lettering size to make it legible for cars and then smaller

459
00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:39,200
in areas that are more pedestrian friendly and just building off of the signage that the

460
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,940
cities are already invested in.

461
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:47,320
There's new signs out there along the highway over by the police stop and coming into downtown

462
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:54,560
by the fire station. So, playing off of that look and feel how do we build something for

463
00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:01,240
way finding signage that plays off of that and creates a pallet that the city can work with.

464
00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:07,780
So, this one we looked at more curving lines that kind of pick up the river feel.

465
00:44:10,980 --> 00:44:11,340
This one

466
00:44:11,340 --> 00:44:17,640
looks a little bit more of an angular approach that again trying to play off of the city's colors,

467
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:24,960
the green and the blue, the park and the river downtown and the park, some interesting geometry

468
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:32,340
that could make its way into some of those elements, or something a little bit more traditional

469
00:44:32,340 --> 00:44:36,120
with the curved top to it, a little more ornate,

470
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,420
or something that's kind of a hybrid between

471
00:44:40,420 --> 00:44:45,680
those two. So we've got four different examples there. Again, none of these are exactly right,

472
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:52,720
But we put four options out there for folks to tell us what overall direction do you like and what would make it better.

473
00:44:55,490 --> 00:44:57,030
And then place making opportunities.

474
00:44:58,810 --> 00:44:59,970
There's not a lot of spots in depth.

475
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,920
Town Parkville right now other than in the alleyway. I mean, we've got the wings. We've got the murals that are on the walls there. And a lot of folks post this on social media. A lot of folks know where this is when they see it. And they're like, oh, Aunt Judy's over at the downtown Parkville. We should go back up there. We had fun time or it looks like they're having a fun time. Now, like cats are playing. We should get up there. So any time we can create these kinds of, we used to call them code act moments.

476
00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:42,740
We don't do filming anymore, but if we could find those places where people would want to take pictures when they're in downtown Parkville, that's free advertising for all the downtown merchants.

477
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:53,640
Hey, look who's over in downtown Parkville there. So, you know, these are things that we've just generated ourselves as initial ideas, but, you know, they're safe.

478
00:45:53,640 --> 00:46:00,320
Missouri sign with a heart where Parkville is and we make the letters see through so people

479
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,440
could get behind it and get a picture. People like to climb on these. This is one we did at the

480
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:12,820
city market. We see a lot of folks posting from there and you see it on money and I football and

481
00:46:12,820 --> 00:46:17,440
some of those elements. We awesome to see downtown Parkville on money and I football one of these days.

482
00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:23,620
But how do we how do we do something out here that speaks to who we are as a community

483
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:31,660
and encourages folks to have that great experience and want to document that with a picture

484
00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:36,480
and it just creates more activation in some of those public spaces.

485
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:39,970
Again, the website,

486
00:46:40,730 --> 00:46:49,030
there's a QR code. If any of you want to follow along tonight, you can use your phone right now and take a picture of it.

487
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:52,310
All the input will happen through this website.

488
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:58,110
If you don't have a phone, or if you don't have access to a computer, we do have paper copies

489
00:46:58,110 --> 00:47:03,410
of all of these questions that are on the website, and you can pick those upstairs at the

490
00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:06,850
information desk if you're in City Hall starting tomorrow.

491
00:47:07,290 --> 00:47:11,030
And you can fill that out by hand and just submit that.

492
00:47:11,170 --> 00:47:16,610
And so if that's how you need to do it, there's an opportunity to do that.

493
00:47:16,610 --> 00:47:19,310
we'll capture all those, bring them back,

494
00:47:21,470 --> 00:47:24,670
and we'll enter all that information into to keep track

495
00:47:24,670 --> 00:47:29,650
of all of it. So again, it's the same website that we've been using. It's been updated.

496
00:47:31,870 --> 00:47:32,470
There's

497
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:39,630
several activities to do. One of the activities is to look at the promenade spaces and those

498
00:47:39,630 --> 00:47:45,370
three different ideas and tell us, you know, overall, which one is your favorite.

499
00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:52,530
So, you zoom into the area, you'd like to make a comment, you add a marker right here.

500
00:47:52,550 --> 00:47:58,970
There's a little green box, you can add a marker as an idea or something and put it in there and type it in and say,

501
00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:02,530
here's what I want to see happen here, here's what I like, here's what I don't like.

502
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:06,090
I like this tree, I don't like that tree, whatever it is.

503
00:48:06,090 --> 00:48:12,130
You can make your own comments on there and then submit after you've made all of your comments

504
00:48:12,130 --> 00:48:15,670
Your comments are going to be private this time

505
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:21,570
Want to make sure that when somebody goes if they wait three weeks and then they go to the website

506
00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:23,270
But didn't want to see

507
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:27,870
Tonic comments all over it and you couldn't see the image underneath so we wanted everybody to

508
00:48:28,370 --> 00:48:31,050
It's as like your first attempt to walk in

509
00:48:32,070 --> 00:48:36,070
Unfettered what it what would you want let you go ahead and make your comments will capture

510
00:48:36,090 --> 00:48:46,480
all those and then we'll create a summary of all of that. Tell us what stories you want

511
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:53,760
to feature so again when we think about storytelling and the use of artwork or history

512
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,000
moments or anything there's there's been discussions about well how do we tell Parkville

513
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:06,140
story in the streets? Could we do some things in here really connect people to our history? Connect

514
00:49:06,140 --> 00:49:11,440
people to what makes Parkville unique. There's lots of cool things that we could integrate into

515
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:17,260
the streetscape into some of the common elements that that already need to be made. So if we're

516
00:49:17,260 --> 00:49:22,720
putting a bench in, we've done things like take one of the slats of the bench and go to get a

517
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:29,380
special manufacturer and maybe work in a story into that slat and replace the slat in the bench

518
00:49:30,020 --> 00:49:34,700
as a way of taking a functional element and also using it to tell a story.

519
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,180
So don't know what those all those stories are.

520
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,260
We've shown a couple of things, you know, the printing press and others.

521
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:47,600
But there's lots of things that we don't know about that the community knows about Parkville.

522
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,760
And so we'd like to know you could take in this portion of it.

523
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:56,360
Again, you add a marker as your idea and you could put an idea out here and say,

524
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,400
Hey, why don't we tell the story about what happened at that intersection one day or

525
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,960
the special thing that this building represents? Tell us what those stories are that

526
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,340
that you want us to explore as a part of that.

527
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:13,730
And then the overall streetscape character,

528
00:50:14,370 --> 00:50:20,490
we had those three options for the streetscape itself. Do you like the full brick? Do you like the

529
00:50:20,490 --> 00:50:28,250
One foot brick, tell us which one is your favorite and you'll do that by ranking these.

530
00:50:28,330 --> 00:50:33,950
So you'll just drag these over and reorder the number, your most favorite to your least

531
00:50:33,950 --> 00:50:34,350
favorite.

532
00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:44,480
The next option, do we want to create an enhanced gateway into downtown?

533
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,040
Right now, you've got the columns on either side of the highway that's a downtown park

534
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:56,580
and they've got the little lights on them, right before you cross into downtown, do you want

535
00:50:56,580 --> 00:51:02,940
to further embellish that some communities of built, you know, archways over some of the roadways

536
00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:11,980
like downtown North Kansas City, we did that one a few years ago, other larger monuments or signage

537
00:51:11,980 --> 00:51:19,020
or art installations or don't explore any additional enhancements. Where are you in that

538
00:51:19,020 --> 00:51:23,380
process, what do you think, or do you have other ideas of what you'd want to see as a gateway

539
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:23,840
element?

540
00:51:24,260 --> 00:51:27,080
So you can type that in and tell us what you like and don't like.

541
00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:36,080
The lighting itself on the streets, there's several different lights being used throughout

542
00:51:36,740 --> 00:51:42,140
these lights out here in front of Park University, where recently installed there, there's

543
00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:51,580
number of new kind of acorn lights with some gold adornments here at the top as this protective

544
00:51:51,580 --> 00:51:57,560
cage and banners. So the thought was that we would use those same lights on the rest of

545
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:06,560
nine highway and bring them around the curve and up. But Ebrgy is the electrical supplier for

546
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:14,000
for the downtown area, and they have a few different fixtures that we can choose from.

547
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:19,380
So if we stay within their menu, which we need to, this one is one that we could match

548
00:52:19,380 --> 00:52:22,280
and carry that consistently up.

549
00:52:22,620 --> 00:52:28,060
These are the existing downtown lights that are more of a globe or an acorn that doesn't

550
00:52:28,060 --> 00:52:29,800
have that ornamentation on it.

551
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:37,300
So we could do something similar to what's in downtown now. It's not exactly the same, but it's really close.

552
00:52:38,220 --> 00:52:44,200
So we could try to emulate that in the rest of the downtown area, or they have a couple of different concepts.

553
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:51,920
One is more of an angular kind of an octagonal, shaped light, and one's more of a round light.

554
00:52:52,860 --> 00:53:04,560
They haven't used those anywhere in the metro, but they're in their system, so I'd like to point out where those are, but there aren't any of those other two out here as an example to look at.

555
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:13,620
But any of those other three would you want to see us continue with these in the downtown and have them be different than the ones on nine?

556
00:53:14,220 --> 00:53:19,220
That's what this question is about, or do you want to see us use the exact same light that

557
00:53:19,220 --> 00:53:22,000
we're using on 9 highway and use it all through the downtown?

558
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,780
So think about that and give us a input.

559
00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:32,300
And then crosswalks, how we cross over the street at those designated locations.

560
00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:36,300
Do we want to integrate decorative pavers into the crosswalks?

561
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,240
Do we want to raise the crosswalk a little bit so it's at the sidewalk level and cars

562
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:47,160
drive up and then back down, not a speed, ramp, or anything like that, but something that

563
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:52,560
is a little bit of a traffic calming device as well, and makes it easier for pedestrians

564
00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:58,500
to cross the street. Do we integrate scored colored concrete into the sidewalks instead

565
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:06,980
of pavers? Or do we just go to standard lines painted striping at the crosswalks? If you

566
00:54:06,980 --> 00:54:11,520
preferences on those, you can put them over here in your order, your most favorite, to your

567
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,060
least favorite.

568
00:54:15,740 --> 00:54:20,340
And then what types of everyday activities do you envision for the new pedestrian

569
00:54:20,340 --> 00:54:26,820
promenade space? So we put a few ideas in here, designated dining, beverage areas,

570
00:54:27,060 --> 00:54:33,340
for adjacent businesses, just seating areas, do we put a kid-friendly feature, or area, small

571
00:54:33,340 --> 00:54:38,240
climbing, or balance, or something? Do we do a performance turf, green space, for yard

572
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:44,940
games, do we have a flexible, plasma space that's hard scape, do we accommodate event

573
00:54:44,940 --> 00:54:50,320
performances from music, dance, or something, a portable stage, do we leave an area

574
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:57,460
for food trucks, for larger events, or the restaurants we've got here support that, arts

575
00:54:57,460 --> 00:55:02,220
and craft fairs that we want to have portable tents that could be set up, do we want to

576
00:55:02,220 --> 00:55:07,340
think about having an art fair or something like that or

577
00:55:07,340 --> 00:55:08,660
or are there other activities.

578
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:11,740
And you'll go ahead and put in your other activities,

579
00:55:12,420 --> 00:55:16,400
rank these again, put them on your order of most favorite to least favorite.

580
00:55:17,340 --> 00:55:20,100
Tell us what kinds of things you envision happening in that space.

581
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:26,000
What types of future community events would you like to see planned for the new prominent space?

582
00:55:26,660 --> 00:55:28,380
It's a space we don't have today.

583
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,240
And I don't think we have Mayor's Christmas tree anywhere.

584
00:55:34,940 --> 00:55:35,520
Not really.

585
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,340
I mean, it could be a spot for Mayor's Christmas tree.

586
00:55:38,980 --> 00:55:41,760
It could be a spot for seasonal events.

587
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,000
October Fest, those kinds of things.

588
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:49,160
Think about what kinds of things might we do with that space

589
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,780
that would make this even a better destination to draw people

590
00:55:53,780 --> 00:55:56,780
and your family and friends that would want to come visit you

591
00:55:56,780 --> 00:55:57,960
and go spend time down there.

592
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,280
But what other events do we not hold in downtown

593
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,680
that might be able to be accommodated to hear in this space?

594
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,520
What types of amenities do you want to see

595
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,120
and integrate it into that promenade?

596
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:13,100
We've got permanent walls with planter edges,

597
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,720
movable seating and tables, artwork, decorative lighting,

598
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,040
decorative pavement, landscapes, faces, shade trees,

599
00:56:20,660 --> 00:56:22,080
high top tables or lean rails,

600
00:56:22,540 --> 00:56:25,860
place making feature like the Parkville signage,

601
00:56:25,860 --> 00:56:27,400
or other features.

602
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,600
What other things do you think about?

603
00:56:29,860 --> 00:56:33,240
Put those in your order, rank them from most favorite to least favorite.

604
00:56:37,010 --> 00:56:38,650
And then tell us more about you.

605
00:56:39,290 --> 00:56:40,810
So who's giving the input?

606
00:56:41,230 --> 00:56:42,250
Are you a Parkville resident?

607
00:56:42,570 --> 00:56:43,610
Are you not a Parkville resident?

608
00:56:43,810 --> 00:56:45,170
Are you a student at Park University?

609
00:56:45,770 --> 00:56:47,030
Do you own property in downtown?

610
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:48,090
You own a business?

611
00:56:49,390 --> 00:56:50,510
I shop or down?

612
00:56:50,690 --> 00:56:51,850
Shop or dining downtown?

613
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:52,470
Parkville?

614
00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:53,930
Check all of those that apply.

615
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:56,870
And if someone checks all those boxes,

616
00:56:56,870 --> 00:57:02,910
we should probably do a certain prize for them. How often do you visit downtown Parkville?

617
00:57:03,050 --> 00:57:07,310
Daily three to five times a week, one to two times a week, twice a month, once a month,

618
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:12,710
once a year, only special occasions wanted to get a sense where the inputs coming from.

619
00:57:12,970 --> 00:57:19,650
We were handing out flyers for this meeting and for the input at the Christmas on the river event

620
00:57:19,650 --> 00:57:25,590
on Friday night. It was a little chilly, but the fireworks were amazing and there were a lot of folks there.

621
00:57:25,590 --> 00:57:32,110
like hey I don't live here but I love to come down here and spend time we always come to this

622
00:57:32,110 --> 00:57:38,890
event. Give us your input. If you're coming down here that's our customer base. They're

623
00:57:38,890 --> 00:57:44,850
coming down here already to enjoy what Parkville has to offer whether they live here or not.

624
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:50,030
It's important to hear from everybody and this is a way for us to know where that input's coming

625
00:57:50,030 --> 00:57:56,470
from. So if they're folks that are just visiting you once a year, we can take that into

626
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:59,930
account. If they're folks that live here all the time and they're down there every day,

627
00:58:00,210 --> 00:58:03,690
we can take that into account. So we want to know more about where the input's coming from.

628
00:58:06,270 --> 00:58:11,570
And then again, here's the QR code. I just wanted to provide that quick update and overview

629
00:58:12,590 --> 00:58:16,770
for the benefit of everybody that's at home that's going to be going through this survey effort.

630
00:58:16,770 --> 00:58:22,470
our plan is to leave this up through the middle of January and we'll put that in the website there

631
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:29,570
when we're going to take that input down but that gives everybody about a month and a half of

632
00:58:29,570 --> 00:58:35,590
of input time and then middle of January will pull that down and report back to the Board of

633
00:58:35,590 --> 00:58:41,850
Alderman in January with where we are with process at that point. Thank you again for being here.

634
00:58:42,030 --> 00:58:46,090
We'll be happy to answer some general questions and then we'll be able to assemble around the boards

635
00:58:46,090 --> 00:58:47,710
for some one-on-one conversations.

636
00:58:48,610 --> 00:58:53,070
And this video of this meeting will be online, too.

637
00:58:53,390 --> 00:58:55,250
So if anybody wants to go back or a neighbor

638
00:58:55,250 --> 00:58:57,830
didn't get to come down, let us know.

639
00:58:58,510 --> 00:58:59,350
So yeah.

640
00:58:59,350 --> 00:59:02,170
How much of the community input is factory to you?

641
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:07,390
That's probably a question for me, Red.

642
00:59:08,110 --> 00:59:09,010
Then, Chris.

643
00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:11,810
The reason I asked, I don't want to make this important,

644
00:59:11,810 --> 00:59:15,150
but I would probably understand because we got to a point

645
00:59:15,150 --> 00:59:20,810
here with this plan B, and what people can understand is that there were six options presented

646
00:59:21,390 --> 00:59:26,370
in the plan that we were moving forward with, the actions were the least support, right?

647
00:59:27,310 --> 00:59:32,010
And it's been sold to the open end of the public using a data from plan B2, as one of the

648
00:59:32,010 --> 00:59:37,130
10 is supported when we call the plan B. So, firstly, everything that's been presented so far

649
00:59:37,130 --> 00:59:41,410
had the least public support based on the communication from the original surveys.

650
00:59:41,410 --> 00:59:51,990
No, I think concept B was more popular than content B2, but there was

651
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:58,250
a line to the public when you say that concept B had public support, because it was time for the last amount of public support.

652
00:59:59,070 --> 00:59:59,970
But B2.

653
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:25,540
Which what did have the most support? B2 was the most important. It was the most supported that took out the VFW and there was a lot of input to us. Don't take that building in particular. Don't take any buildings. So B was a compromise. And there will be a lot of compromises.

654
01:00:25,540 --> 01:00:30,900
The second place finished was not remotely being what you're talking about, as I was saying.

655
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:36,440
Because we could hold the data, it's been a shame as far as how we got here, right?

656
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:41,620
Plan B and low teens in public support.

657
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:48,980
The concept B's, the concept B's were all had to do with the brand new roadway.

658
01:00:49,260 --> 01:00:52,780
The only difference between them was whether or not it took down buildings.

659
01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:57,960
we heard loud and clear don't take down the buildings but there was support for the new roadway

660
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:04,580
connecting through. And I think that's what we heard, that's what we shared. We've been open

661
01:01:04,580 --> 01:01:10,060
and transparent throughout the entire process and we shared all that with the Board of Alderman.

662
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:15,040
There was a lot of discussion about that. It wasn't fine-tuning and nitpicking each one but we

663
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,980
did spend a ton of time on each one of those.

664
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,940
Well, all I can tell you is the Board of Alderman

665
01:01:24,940 --> 01:01:30,300
took in all the input, we got, and from the engineers,

666
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,400
they can account very preliminary cost estimates,

667
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,760
and we felt that B was the best option,

668
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,120
both for the short term and for the long term.

669
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,500
And so the answer to the public end, but doesn't matter much.

670
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:50,940
I think that's absolutely untrue.

671
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,920
We listen to the public.

672
01:01:53,920 --> 01:02:06,840
But then we have to, in the end we have to take all this information that we have a representative democracy, and I'm sorry, we can't just take a vote on every little thing we do.

673
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,480
So the

674
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,840
promenade is a part of the overall ops.

675
01:02:16,260 --> 01:02:19,960
What all happens, what gets funded in that,

676
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:29,440
we're hoping it'll happen, but we have to get more better estimates next month.

677
01:02:30,460 --> 01:02:33,540
And then we'll start to make some decisions about,

678
01:02:34,340 --> 01:02:35,780
there'll be more trade-offs.

679
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,340
We don't think we have enough money to do pay-verse.

680
01:02:39,340 --> 01:02:46,720
So, sorry, the pavers are real popular, but we won't be able to do them because at least

681
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,900
not right now because we don't have the money.

682
01:02:49,980 --> 01:02:51,460
We'll have to make those decisions.

683
01:02:51,980 --> 01:03:00,540
But I think by picking Plan B, we did pick the option that closes first street.

684
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:09,320
So that decision sort of been made unless we just totally abandon B and start over again.

685
01:03:10,940 --> 01:03:17,160
So now what happens to first street and to what extent and all that, some of that will depend

686
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:23,940
on costs and that and what folks would like to see that was some of the questions today.

687
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,280
I'm sorry you feel that way.

688
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,820
I know you're more affected than most people are providing.

689
01:03:32,430 --> 01:03:32,730
Right.

690
01:03:32,790 --> 01:03:33,090
Yeah.

691
01:03:33,110 --> 01:03:37,190
I know you're a big B2 fan and that's because it does fix the

692
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:49,210
traffic.

693
01:03:49,450 --> 01:03:51,210
I personally think it's better.

694
01:03:52,790 --> 01:03:57,950
I think there are at least six people on our seven people on the board of

695
01:03:57,950 --> 01:04:01,270
Alderman thought it was better now

696
01:04:28,180 --> 01:04:30,880
we're not keeping it as a street as long as we

697
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:36,520
go with this plan because we don't want two streets going into downtown that would

698
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:41,860
that would that would be a worse than anything we do so that's not kind of

699
01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:57,270
We absolutely agree, and I think there was a lot of support on the Board of

700
01:04:57,270 --> 01:05:05,110
Aldermen for B2, but we did never money and to be honest there was a lot of

701
01:05:05,110 --> 01:05:15,170
opposition to B2, for taking the B2 but for taking the BFW, right?

702
01:05:18,010 --> 01:05:23,470
And we haven't eliminated that vision, but it may be as put off to the future.

703
01:05:24,030 --> 01:05:24,830
I'm sorry, other people.

704
01:05:29,290 --> 01:05:36,390
Yeah, it's not, it's principally be about input on the aesthetics and the streetscape.

705
01:05:36,570 --> 01:05:39,050
We wanted to bring everybody up to date.

706
01:05:39,590 --> 01:05:42,130
I apologize to people like you, Jim.

707
01:05:42,330 --> 01:05:44,310
We've made the decision on be.

708
01:05:44,310 --> 01:05:52,310
That was made six months ago pretty confident that we're not going to go back on that decision,

709
01:05:52,310 --> 01:05:57,690
unless it's just not ends up not being feasible, which doesn't seem to be the case.

710
01:05:59,450 --> 01:06:00,690
Okay, 1, 12.

711
01:06:02,850 --> 01:06:03,710
Oh, I'm sorry.

712
01:06:04,490 --> 01:06:07,850
We need to have you guys on the microphone so the folks watching can hear you?

713
01:06:07,850 --> 01:06:08,050
Yep.

714
01:06:08,730 --> 01:06:09,650
Most people are not.

715
01:06:11,350 --> 01:06:14,190
So where I'm getting that, I live it on the west side of town.

716
01:06:14,190 --> 01:06:22,090
Well, Doug Bias, Jr., I live at 123-10, Northwest River Road at the Danger Center section.

717
01:06:23,030 --> 01:06:30,290
Anyhow, when you guys made the decision as a group to run the road the way you decided to,

718
01:06:30,310 --> 01:06:33,510
because as the gentleman responded, it wasn't.

719
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:37,450
You took consideration, but at the end of the day, it wasn't made on the public.

720
01:06:38,110 --> 01:06:42,390
And when I say the public, it should be the citizens of Part Bill, because we're the one paying the tab.

721
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:55,570
At the end of the day, did you take an account for the extra acreage of 1,000 Oaks just bought and put in all these homes in an extra traffic that's now going to come through downtown Parkville, the aesthetics is one thing.

722
01:06:56,150 --> 01:07:01,650
We shouldn't be developing aesthetics until we get a plan to get that traffic move through.

723
01:07:02,570 --> 01:07:08,390
There's not been but one study I've seen out by me where you guys, but the little tabs see how much traffic went through there.

724
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:13,610
But on a daily, not only do you have all the traffic coming out to the west side to get to 1000 Oaks.

725
01:07:14,250 --> 01:07:20,370
You got all the traffic that's going over to 11 more than an Acheson that has picked up now that they know this is a clear thoroughfare.

726
01:07:20,890 --> 01:07:24,730
The 45 and Maca Cross over to 92 and into that side of town.

727
01:07:25,650 --> 01:07:29,870
The traffic in the five years I've lived in that house and for anybody questions I've lived in Parkville.

728
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,140
Twenty-some odd years, and I was in a landlocked pine crest across the street with one way in one way out.

729
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:40,640
How do we fix that problem before we get the aesthetics of downtown Parkville?

730
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:42,800
We've got to fix that traffic.

731
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:49,560
I don't think that that land was purchased by thousands of oaks until after you guys made that decision.

732
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:55,260
I could be wrong, but I know when the gentleman moved out of the farm, and I was just here recently.

733
01:07:55,260 --> 01:08:01,320
So, in the last six months or so, so I'm looking to see, did you make that decision prior to that?

734
01:08:01,620 --> 01:08:11,260
And they are looking to, the notes even more with the farmers that are selling out because the families are not taking on the farm and they're selling it.

735
01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:15,140
The next thing is 1000 Oaks will pick up another 100, 200 homes.

736
01:08:15,740 --> 01:08:19,520
How do you get that traffic out of downtown Parkville? And it is a problem for me.

737
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,860
And my two older men and you have been invited to come sit on my porch and watch that.

738
01:08:23,860 --> 01:08:28,360
And none of you have inclined that in bite-tee dinner and watch the traffic.

739
01:08:32,530 --> 01:08:32,730
Please.

740
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:45,620
So first of all, I believe 1000 Oaks and Stephen, they've had that plan for a long time.

741
01:08:45,980 --> 01:08:47,620
Didn't they even own that land?

742
01:08:47,860 --> 01:08:52,440
They just allowed someone to live in the farmhouse.

743
01:08:55,660 --> 01:09:00,560
So we're well aware that 1000 Oaks plans to continue

744
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:08,580
you to develop out there and that that'll increase the traffic coming through downtown unless

745
01:09:08,580 --> 01:09:15,380
some other things happen, you know, like if there was an intersection of a river road with

746
01:09:15,380 --> 01:09:22,060
a 435 or something like that that might draw some of that up. That's honestly way in the

747
01:09:22,060 --> 01:09:27,700
future. Pardon? No time soon. No time soon. Absolutely.

748
01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:45,480
So, we believe, and I believe the engineers believe, this is a better, not the best, a better approach within our capability to do it this moment to getting traffic through the downtown.

749
01:09:45,480 --> 01:09:49,040
But it's still going to be slow going.

750
01:09:49,180 --> 01:09:52,860
We're not creating an expressway past the downtown.

751
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,960
I want to make everybody clear on that.

752
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,940
They'll be stop signs.

753
01:09:58,540 --> 01:09:59,940
It's still the downtown.

754
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:02,000
So

755
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:13,640
they slow down when they get past you because the mode dot

756
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:18,000
part of the highway is so in such bad shape that you're

757
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,120
probably at 65 miles an hour, you're probably

758
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:29,300
me flipped off the road. That's another thing to ask that. I would like, I know you have

759
01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:36,180
strong opinion stuff. I would like to get back to the object of this meeting. You had

760
01:10:36,180 --> 01:10:36,920
a question.

761
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,620
Well, first of all, I'd like to thank you guys for the time and effort for public

762
01:10:47,620 --> 01:10:50,620
It's very important as is future proofing.

763
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,840
But just two things I wanted to ask since they were kind of gaps for me.

764
01:10:56,100 --> 01:10:57,300
You know, wish lists are great.

765
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:03,080
But have you caucused over, you know, maintenance and facilities of what's proposed.

766
01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:07,760
Number one, number two, have there ever been a time since I'm new to the area,

767
01:11:08,300 --> 01:11:15,820
where you've actually closed that area off and just organically learned what people would do in that area or had something there.

768
01:11:15,820 --> 01:11:22,000
you know over a period of time so you kind of have a right the streets where they would be

769
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,200
permitted to be closed for something and then you would watch you know people and you would

770
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:33,220
see how it felt versus maybe creating something that would be permanent and then might not work.

771
01:11:33,860 --> 01:11:39,460
So just those two questions. I'm going to let Chris answer some of that. First of all as we

772
01:11:39,460 --> 01:11:42,820
make our selections for what we do.

773
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,900
We will have to take an account maintenance,

774
01:11:45,220 --> 01:11:48,640
like Chris mentioned, clay pavers are better

775
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,020
than other pavers because they last longer.

776
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:55,200
And maybe we don't want to do all pavers

777
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,740
the whole sidewalk because that'll be more of a maintenance

778
01:11:58,740 --> 01:11:59,840
headache down the road.

779
01:11:59,980 --> 01:12:01,900
We'll have to make those decisions.

780
01:12:02,900 --> 01:12:09,360
And you can address, right, we'll have to be taken into account.

781
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:16,800
But we don't want to do things that are going to create lots of costs for us for the city

782
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,120
down the road and lots of problems.

783
01:12:19,900 --> 01:12:23,160
To the other thing on your, we haven't,

784
01:12:25,250 --> 01:12:28,570
possibly, depending on what the maintenance is for.

785
01:12:29,010 --> 01:12:34,410
The other thing on closing first street, we've never closed first street because it's the only

786
01:12:34,410 --> 01:12:47,710
through downtown and we occasionally close Main Street for events like the parade every year or

787
01:12:47,710 --> 01:12:55,430
a couple of parades every year. So we do have some sense on that. We close the alley just to the south

788
01:12:55,430 --> 01:13:00,770
of the first street that's a little different space. Pardon?

789
01:13:19,740 --> 01:13:21,520
But we'd have to close it for quite

790
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:28,040
some time to get a real sense, unless you just close it for a week and wouldn't do anything

791
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:34,120
to it and see if anybody, I personally wouldn't hang out just on first street when it

792
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:41,400
was closed without the amenities, some of the amenities, anyways we talked about. That's the

793
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:46,640
problem with closing it to see how it works, you have to really do the whole thing.

794
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:58,040
Well,

795
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:03,680
we know having sanded down and fireworks and that does draw a lot of people down town.

796
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:08,520
I assume if we did it in first street, they'd be there too.

797
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,920
There's just a lot of questions to that.

798
01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:20,020
Yeah, just that's part of why we're asking these questions now is what ideas do you have?

799
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:22,260
What things do you want us to consider?

800
01:14:22,260 --> 01:14:28,280
I think what would give it the most chance of success long-term is for it to be flexible.

801
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:38,020
And so trying to build that flexibility and so that the space can accommodate the types of things that the community is thinking about.

802
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:45,780
So it's important for us to ask those questions now just what could those things be and how do we plan a space that accommodates that?

803
01:15:10,380 --> 01:15:12,920
We'll talk to you in a minute.

804
01:15:13,060 --> 01:15:19,340
Brent or Marker's 641 North Lake Drive, here in Parkfield. Just a couple of different things. One on the

805
01:15:19,340 --> 01:15:23,260
accessible spots north of the tracks. How many are you looking at?

806
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,300
Sorry, that's only one. Yeah, well, I'll give it back to you.

807
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:38,160
The grades in downtown, there's some really steep areas. The areas that we're looking at are the areas

808
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:43,420
we think we can get accommodate spaces. We're trying to do that balancing act of how many

809
01:15:43,420 --> 01:15:49,440
do we put there versus how many parking spaces do we need to have to support the businesses?

810
01:15:50,180 --> 01:15:56,020
So we haven't determined the final number yet, but it's in those two areas that we're

811
01:15:56,020 --> 01:15:57,040
looking at.

812
01:15:57,380 --> 01:16:02,760
Well, in conjunction with the numbers, keep in mind that both the route 9 is up through

813
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:13,740
force street on the project, on the scope, on the study. Also the ADA transition was also

814
01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:19,340
through that, so through the 400 block. So another piece of this is, what are we doing

815
01:16:19,340 --> 01:16:25,500
north is second to accommodate ADA, where all those new businesses are, along there,

816
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:31,360
and in conjunction to make it a, you know, ADA compliant. I understand on the great on the

817
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:38,560
and second to first basically, you know, is going to be probably never happened as far as,

818
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:45,920
you know, the right grade there. Okay? But I'm looking at below and above because all the

819
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:53,560
legal documents from the study or from the ADA transition plan all call for that. The reality is

820
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:59,040
we've got commercial businesses up through sixth, therefore whatever reason there was some line

821
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:06,440
on for some of these studies. The other thing on pavers, if you incorporate pavers in any fashion,

822
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:14,600
please ensure that those are non-slip, either with coding and dormitoryials. I think it looks

823
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:23,420
aesthetically great, but it may not be good for the customers out there. There's probably more

824
01:17:23,420 --> 01:17:27,960
things about it better let somebody else, but I'd love to hear some numbers because I think when

825
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:32,960
count the numbers, your ratio is if you only put two spots there, you're going to be low.

826
01:17:33,340 --> 01:17:41,500
You got 117 spots up through 4th Street, and I know you're representing 67 here, and

827
01:17:41,500 --> 01:17:45,160
therefore the ratio is up to 38 would look appropriate.

828
01:17:45,700 --> 01:17:50,000
I'm not saying they all have to be down there, but you probably need to figure out something

829
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,340
for some of those upper main street.

830
01:17:52,340 --> 01:17:52,880
We

831
01:17:55,670 --> 01:18:03,670
do have additional ADA, it's not just these spots, as a part of the project we have folded in the transition.

832
01:18:05,770 --> 01:18:07,270
So, somebody else?

833
01:18:08,770 --> 01:18:09,710
Any other questions?

834
01:18:14,250 --> 01:18:20,350
One question about the use of pedestrian seating and stuff like that in that area.

835
01:18:20,350 --> 01:18:27,670
I mean, I drive through Parkville a lot, but what I don't see is we have a pocket park that

836
01:18:27,670 --> 01:18:32,210
has pedestrian seating now, and I don't know that I ever see anybody sitting there.

837
01:18:32,630 --> 01:18:40,130
So I guess what I'm thinking is having just pedestrian seating to be pedestrian seating may

838
01:18:40,130 --> 01:18:47,370
not be that useful where I see Parkville Coffee, I see Stone Canyon, I see Prima Fachi, all of

839
01:18:47,370 --> 01:18:54,530
being able to provide a level of seating that has a purpose besides just sitting that might be more useful

840
01:18:54,530 --> 01:18:56,650
and might be occupied more.

841
01:18:58,940 --> 01:18:59,960
Thanks for that input.

842
01:19:04,260 --> 01:19:06,820
Thank you, Dean. I'm a resident of Park

843
01:19:06,820 --> 01:19:15,440
Villain, but down here since 1992, just prior to the flood of 93, and I know that this entire study

844
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:24,260
started off as the nine highway through for project. And now it has evolved into the first

845
01:19:24,260 --> 01:19:31,220
street promenade. There's a huge contingency of businesses and property owners in downtown

846
01:19:31,220 --> 01:19:36,420
Parkville that do not want to see first street closed. I know that you guys have already

847
01:19:36,420 --> 01:19:44,200
voted on that. But many of them have not weighed in. I talked to the fire district yesterday

848
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:53,940
And no discussions have been held with the three-fired district chair persons. I know you guys have met with the fire chiefs

849
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,400
The assistant fire chiefs

850
01:19:57,460 --> 01:19:58,420
Yeah, so

851
01:20:04,050 --> 01:20:07,710
So I know you guys are going to be holding meetings with them. I'm looking forward to that

852
01:20:08,250 --> 01:20:09,750
my biggest concern

853
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:11,850
after having lived

854
01:20:11,850 --> 01:20:12,790
eight

855
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:14,890
slept on Main Street

856
01:20:14,890 --> 01:20:17,590
the last 30 years and different projects that I've done

857
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:24,920
What determines a traffic throw to down to downtown Parkville, the traffic flow is the train.

858
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,920
When the train is there, everything comes to a stop.

859
01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:33,100
Whether you're on first street, the new road proposed by the railroad tracks,

860
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:38,320
I've witnessed many an incident down there, some serious, some non-serious,

861
01:20:38,420 --> 01:20:41,220
some almost an accident.

862
01:20:42,860 --> 01:20:45,660
Majority of traffic accidents happen at intersections.

863
01:20:46,140 --> 01:20:51,280
And we've had our fair share it first and main, first and east, and now you want to put

864
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,220
that intersection at first in the railroad tracks.

865
01:20:55,740 --> 01:21:00,060
What happens when there's a car accident, and they end up on the railroad track, and the trains

866
01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:04,140
coming through at 45 miles an hour, they don't have time to stop.

867
01:21:05,020 --> 01:21:11,540
It takes a half a mile to a mile for train to stop, and I just think that putting a road

868
01:21:11,540 --> 01:21:16,700
by the railroad tracks is extremely dangerous and hazardous to the general public.

869
01:21:18,020 --> 01:21:21,960
And again, many of the merchants and prosecutors in downtown Parkville

870
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,960
not want to see first, or closed.

871
01:21:24,580 --> 01:21:26,480
They're saying, let's not do anything at all.

872
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,840
Let's concentrate on the triangle on nine highway.

873
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,280
Let's concentrate on working with the post office.

874
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,040
It would cost 10 times less money to relocate the post office

875
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,720
and maybe come up with another solution.

876
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:47,100
I'm really concerned about the future traffic flow from the north of the tracks to the

877
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:54,200
south of the tracks because I own property down there and we need access at E Street and

878
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,480
Main Street equally at the same time.

879
01:21:57,620 --> 01:22:03,360
And when a train's coming through we're stopped for 15 minutes, I'm sorry, five minutes.

880
01:22:03,820 --> 01:22:07,800
And once that train gets through at 45 miles an hour, everything opens back up again.

881
01:22:09,340 --> 01:22:16,220
But if the railroad ever comes back and says we're going to put two tracks in like they did 15, 20 years ago, what are we going to do then?

882
01:22:17,620 --> 01:22:26,020
Because right now there's a four mile stretch of the railroad that only has one set of tracks, three miles west of Parkfield and one mile to the east.

883
01:22:27,220 --> 01:22:29,960
That's if that comes through the pipe and what are we going to do?

884
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:37,560
Through them with two sets of tracks in downtown Parkfield. So I just want you to maybe rethink and maybe

885
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:42,640
there's another plan. But I'm anxious to work together with the city and all the organizations

886
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:48,160
in downtown Parkfield to see what is, you know, holds for the future force. Thank you.

887
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:57,680
Thanks Tom. Anybody else to kind of follow up with what Tom had indicated? I use the part on

888
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:09,600
daily basis, and the concern that I have is that when people or just patrons are using the parking lot near the farmer's market, they have to cross the tracks.

889
01:23:10,580 --> 01:23:16,460
And then you have, so now they're going to be crossing the tracks along with crossing the road at the same time.

890
01:23:16,740 --> 01:23:23,440
There will be a time when people are going to be basically pigeonholed between the traffic and the train at the same time.

891
01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:30,840
You know, that's going to be uncomfortable for a lot of people because now they have to navigate two aspects rather than just one

892
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:36,130
And so that is my number one concern. Thank you very much.

893
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:40,840
It is not an idea.

894
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,960
So, no, no, that's fine. I appreciate that.

895
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:52,160
But I'm just curious, right? We got the public here, public needs to hear some of this.

896
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:58,280
They haven't been here week after week, you know, B-O-A meetings and things like I have, you

897
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,000
know, I'm taking a break, I'm sure you guys enjoy that.

898
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:09,320
But anyway, I'm wondering where the monies are at this point, okay, and here's my understanding

899
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:15,420
and recall, correct me if I'm wrong, that is approximately, early July.

900
01:24:15,420 --> 01:24:25,080
We were looking at the B option being approximately $7.5 million, $8 million, somewhere right

901
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:25,720
in there.

902
01:24:26,100 --> 01:24:33,740
And then we were looking at about 30 to 40 days later, in early August, at a B-O-A meeting,

903
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:42,540
it came up, but it changed between Thursday and Tuesday, and it went up to 15.4 million.

904
01:24:42,540 --> 01:24:50,920
And so I'm wondering, in August, late August, I believe there was a request for 2.1 million

905
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:58,500
and of which was going to be some of the early engineering and money spent for that, for a variety,

906
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,640
whether it's for confluence or bylare, et cetera.

907
01:25:03,260 --> 01:25:05,540
And I think 30% of that was approved.

908
01:25:05,540 --> 01:25:17,900
So they said by mid-October, we'll have engineering specs in 30 percent, you know, done to give us a better understanding of the total cost.

909
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:25,180
So the last number I have in my mind is 15.4 million, where we added this point.

910
01:25:27,070 --> 01:25:32,950
I think we're still there that what we had hoped to do in October, we're going to do in January.

911
01:25:33,510 --> 01:25:41,890
We have, they've done 30% of the plans and they've submitted them to Modot and I believe

912
01:25:41,890 --> 01:25:48,450
to be in SF2 and so we're waiting on them to say, yeah, that looks okay or no, it doesn't

913
01:25:48,450 --> 01:25:49,810
or it has this problem.

914
01:25:51,070 --> 01:25:57,090
Once we get that, then they'll be able to sort of finalize those estimates and we'll see if

915
01:25:57,090 --> 01:26:00,090
we're still at the same amount or more or less.

916
01:26:00,090 --> 01:26:09,070
So, but that's, that effect, we've scheduled it for a work session on January, nope, not sure.

917
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,540
First Tuesday and February.

918
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:16,980
It's up, sorry.

919
01:26:20,890 --> 01:26:21,170
Sure.

920
01:26:22,890 --> 01:26:23,330
Right.

921
01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:25,330
And how we're going to pay for it?

922
01:26:25,530 --> 01:26:25,770
Yeah.

923
01:26:26,170 --> 01:26:27,390
And how we're going to pay for it?

924
01:26:27,870 --> 01:26:28,370
I agree.

925
01:26:28,670 --> 01:26:29,070
I agree.

926
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:34,260
Part.

927
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:35,500
Yeah.

928
01:26:50,740 --> 01:26:53,020
I'm sure there's quite a few people that can do that.

929
01:26:53,020 --> 01:26:57,380
There are other any questions about what we've covered tonight.

930
01:26:58,020 --> 01:27:07,720
I understand there's people in the room that just paint this, you know, and, but if we're going to,

931
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,320
this is my feeling,

932
01:27:11,380 --> 01:27:13,300
you're stuck with me for a couple more years.

933
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:20,620
I just feel we need to do these things to move Parkville forward, and we're making the best decisions

934
01:27:20,620 --> 01:27:26,760
we can, they're not necessarily the decisions you agree with, or everybody agrees with,

935
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:31,180
but we're doing the best we can, and we're going to work over the next year and a half

936
01:27:31,180 --> 01:27:38,660
with all of businesses downtown in particular to make sure this not only that the construction

937
01:27:38,660 --> 01:27:45,480
goes as smoothly as possible, but that we accommodate everybody to the greatest extent we can.

938
01:27:49,820 --> 01:27:54,660
Okay, my name is Rosa, and I'm a owner now of the K-Tacos.

939
01:27:54,900 --> 01:27:57,300
I'm a Ryan the Corner, or whatever it is going to happen.

940
01:27:58,100 --> 01:28:01,520
And I hear a lot of beauty, and a lot of good things

941
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,220
Right that can happen to Parkville.

942
01:28:03,700 --> 01:28:09,380
I don't hear any efforts, more than what I'm having right now,

943
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:10,800
Support Safety.

944
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:12,580
And that's the main concern.

945
01:28:13,140 --> 01:28:16,560
And I think not only me, I invite Chris several times

946
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:20,220
And then he's stem to see down on the corner with me,

947
01:28:20,460 --> 01:28:22,340
have dinner and show what happened,

948
01:28:22,500 --> 01:28:24,320
and see what happened, actually happened.

949
01:28:25,140 --> 01:28:28,160
I'm not against progress, and I want to encourage you

950
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:32,560
dean also to have a primal meeting with business owners,

951
01:28:33,380 --> 01:28:33,480
only.

952
01:28:34,700 --> 01:28:36,900
Do you hear the feedback?

953
01:28:38,020 --> 01:28:40,560
And that would be a deal between the government.

954
01:28:41,020 --> 01:28:45,260
I understand, and sometimes it's overtalking.

955
01:28:45,260 --> 01:28:53,740
Just the business owners in Main Street, so you can hear that feedback. So just they're they can not be a fool

956
01:28:54,320 --> 01:29:00,780
Room of people, but just people who seem in the daily basis what happened and I think that's with me

957
01:29:00,780 --> 01:29:07,460
Send that point and I see a lot of beauty and I I agree with the progress and I agree with all that but safety

958
01:29:08,420 --> 01:29:09,980
Safety is number one.

959
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,220
Thanks. I agree with that and we're we're committed

960
01:29:15,220 --> 01:29:22,140
Well, meet with just the main street businesses because they're going to be affected by this, especially

961
01:29:22,140 --> 01:29:25,500
the retail businesses that are there.

962
01:29:27,190 --> 01:29:30,280
Oh, I'll get you back.

963
01:29:30,460 --> 01:29:32,100
Get you back to the United States subject.

964
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:38,560
As far as the fire station is concerned, I would think they would be more than happy to

965
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,460
change their entrance to the rear and go in and out strictly from the rear.

966
01:29:42,460 --> 01:29:53,280
They wanted it, that's, that's when there's, even if we didn't do this plan, they were going to try to figure out a way to get up to a drive or something.

967
01:29:53,700 --> 01:29:59,980
I agree with that. What I'm, what I'm asking is why wouldn't they be more happy with only a r...

968
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,540
Her entrance in exit.

969
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:37,680
parts either had an order or had a child to facilitate their operate.

970
01:30:37,740 --> 01:30:46,260
I was just envisioning that they would pull in from nine highway, head first, and then exit

971
01:30:46,260 --> 01:30:47,220
through.

972
01:30:47,620 --> 01:30:48,640
Yeah, that's a fire.

973
01:30:48,980 --> 01:30:49,600
No, I know.

974
01:30:49,620 --> 01:30:55,980
It just seemed that would flow traffic even better if they always think about it and what

975
01:30:55,980 --> 01:30:58,140
groups think they could take.

976
01:30:58,140 --> 01:30:59,920
but that'll be their decision.

977
01:31:00,440 --> 01:31:05,160
Anybody else on this, otherwise I will encourage everybody

978
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:09,020
to go to the website if you want to weigh in

979
01:31:09,020 --> 01:31:15,340
on all the stuff we've talked about and keep posted.

980
01:31:16,020 --> 01:31:18,860
We're going to do everything we can to keep communicating

981
01:31:18,860 --> 01:31:24,220
with both the community and of course the downtown folks.

982
01:31:24,900 --> 01:31:26,240
Thanks for coming.

983
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:36,680
If you want to stay and ask, like Chris mentioned, just a particular question up at one of the boards or why is this here or something, he's happy to meet and do that.

984
01:31:41,620 --> 01:31:48,640
Okay, martini night at Prima might be a good way to end, so we'll see you all down at Prima's that.

985
01:31:49,260 --> 01:31:50,800
So thank you all for coming.