1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 ever relinquished its duties with the 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,279 FAA. I've been involved in all of the 3 00:00:05,279 --> 00:00:07,919 high-end stuff, capital 4 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:12,960 um investment, CIP stuff, um all of our 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,360 um work with our consultant and all that 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,039 stuff. We pretty much had the FBO doing 7 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:18,960 daily maintenance and daily management 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,760 of the on-site stuff of the airport. 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,840 Um, under this new proposal, the city 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,279 would hire a part-time airport employee 11 00:00:27,279 --> 00:00:35,280 to be on-site at the airport and um and do airport management, maintenance, 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,760 the day-to-day stuff, do notems to the 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,200 FAA and so forth. 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,280 Um, 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,680 it says that the employee reports to the 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,160 city first and foremost. 17 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,000 Um while that employee may also provide 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,559 services to the FBO as a separate job 19 00:00:52,559 --> 00:00:54,960 subject to the city's secondary employee 20 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,199 policy, the city's interests always take 21 00:00:57,199 --> 00:00:59,520 priority. City will continue to seek 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,039 grants and funding opportunities to 23 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:03,199 provide airport infrastructure does not 24 00:01:03,199 --> 00:01:04,479 but does not guarantee specific 25 00:01:04,479 --> 00:01:06,960 improvements or expenditures. 26 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:10,560 So long story short, 27 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,520 what the concept is is that pretty much 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,520 before with the FBO, we said here's the 29 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,759 hanger. You can have the main hanger for 30 00:01:17,759 --> 00:01:19,280 free. The city will pay all the 31 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,000 utilities. Here's this house. We'll 32 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,439 provide that for free and the city will 33 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:26,240 pay all utilities in exchange for being 34 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,400 the FBO and doing the daily maintenance 35 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,720 and management and all that stuff. Under 36 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,960 the new agreement, the city will hire an 37 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:34,720 employee. 38 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,320 We will pay that employee an hourly 39 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:40,560 basis. They will be accountable to the 40 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,280 city like any other department head and 41 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,360 work for the city. 42 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,040 We will then turn around and um make 43 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,159 that house available at a 44 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:54,799 slightly below market price in exchange 45 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:56,720 for them living there and providing the 46 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,759 on-site security that the airport needs. 47 00:01:59,759 --> 00:02:02,320 So, we'll give them a deal on rent. Say 48 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,680 the going rate, we haven't looked at the 49 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,880 going rate and square footage and all 50 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,640 that, but let's say the going rate is 51 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,879 1,800 bucks. Maybe we'll make it 52 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:11,760 available for 1,400 bucks, which they 53 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,000 will pay the city. So, they'll pay city 54 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,640 rent for the house at a good rate and 55 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:18,160 we'll turn around and pay them an hourly 56 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,160 rate when they do work for the city, but 57 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,680 they'll have to keep a time card and 58 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,440 report to me and so forth. Um, if the 59 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,560 FBO wants to hire them 60 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,760 to do FBO duties, 61 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,560 they're welcome to do so, but their 62 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,720 priority their prior their employment 63 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,040 will be to the city first. And if 64 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,800 there's a conflict of interest or if 65 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,319 anything like that, we would treat it 66 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:43,680 the same way we do any secondary 67 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,360 employment, right? Um 68 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,840 the FBO 69 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,080 then will operate as an independent 70 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,720 for-profit business. We will give them 71 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,800 an exclusive FBO agreement, meaning 72 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,400 they're the only one that operates as an 73 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,000 FBO there during the contract term. 74 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,080 They'll provide aeronautical and related 75 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,720 services of a typical typical of rural 76 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,519 general aviation airports. They will pay 77 00:03:09,519 --> 00:03:13,840 all utilities for the hangar and pilots 78 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,080 lounge. They will carry insurance 79 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,560 aviation industry standard levels for 80 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,720 their own business and they will operate 81 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,640 full compliance with FA rules and city 82 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:24,720 airport standards. The FBO does not 83 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,400 operate the airport, does not control 84 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,920 the fuel system and does not have 85 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:30,959 authority to bind the city. 86 00:03:30,959 --> 00:03:34,640 We will lease them the main hanger for 87 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:37,200 $0 rent, 88 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,720 but they will pay utilities. 89 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,799 The rent the rent concession is 90 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:44,640 intentional and is meant to reduce the 91 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,879 operating costs at a rural airport for 92 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:48,879 them, increase the likelihood of 93 00:03:48,879 --> 00:03:51,680 long-term FBO success, impro improve 94 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,519 airport services, activity, and 95 00:03:53,519 --> 00:03:55,680 sustainability. 96 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,680 The hanger may only be used for approved 97 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,480 FBO related purposes. um and they can't 98 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,040 subleasase the the the hanger. So, the 99 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,519 idea is we don't have enough um we don't 100 00:04:07,519 --> 00:04:09,439 have enough business for them to be 101 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:12,239 successful as an FBO of a larger 102 00:04:12,239 --> 00:04:14,400 airport. So, we want them to be 103 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,000 successful. That's why we're willing to 104 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,639 give them free rent. Um but um and we 105 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:22,720 want to encourage them to do whatever 106 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,040 they can to be successful whether it be 107 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,240 repair aircraft repair um any services 108 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,960 that they can make money at. Um the guys 109 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,800 that we awarded this to ultimately have 110 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,759 a lot of ideas that they they want to take on 111 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:41,440 to to be more successful. And this is 112 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,919 what this next section is about. The 113 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:46,000 agreement encourages the FBO to propose 114 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,080 new ideas to increase airport activities 115 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,479 such as flight instruction, aviation 116 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:52,880 events or flyins, food service or 117 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,120 touring related activities, antellay 118 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,040 rentals, or aviation supported 119 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,400 businesses. All activities require city 120 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,440 approval. City may deny proposals that 121 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,199 would create unreasonable traffic, 122 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:07,440 safety concerns, infrastructure strain, 123 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,440 or negative other negative impacts 124 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,800 inconsistent with a community's 125 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,000 character or airport vision. The FBO may 126 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,759 also express interest in developing 127 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:17,919 additional hangers on city-owned land, 128 00:05:17,919 --> 00:05:20,320 investing in airport improvements, or 129 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,080 purchasing adjacent proper private 130 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,880 property. All of these all of those 131 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,199 opportunities are not pre-approved and 132 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:28,400 would require separate written 133 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,600 agreement. So, if they want to do a 134 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,120 hanger project with the city, they're 135 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,039 going to have to have a se a separate 136 00:05:33,039 --> 00:05:34,960 agreement. We didn't want to define that 137 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,840 in their FBO agreement. These guys have 138 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:40,880 talked about maybe wanting to build a 139 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,840 restaurant or put some money in to make 140 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:45,440 a really nice pilot's lounge or 141 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,520 something like that. Basically, if they 142 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,120 want to come to the city and invest some 143 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,039 capital to do something like that, we're 144 00:05:51,039 --> 00:05:52,400 going to have a separate agreement for 145 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,320 that. We just didn't want to have it 146 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,560 open-ended or just automatically 147 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,560 approved. So, um we just basically tell 148 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,039 them we we we're here. We're partners. 149 00:06:03,039 --> 00:06:04,319 We want to encourage them to do things 150 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:06,160 to be successful, but we're going to do 151 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,759 separate agreements on anything that's 152 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:11,120 going to require commitment or long-term 153 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,080 commitments or anything like that. 154 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,800 Um, the city and the FBO agree to work 155 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,400 together in good faith if such 156 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,440 opportunities arise. FAA compliance. Any 157 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,600 action that the FBO by the FBO that 158 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,840 jeopardizes FA FAA grant assurance or 159 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:28,720 airport compliance is a material breach. 160 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,639 FAA related violations require immediate 161 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:32,479 correction. Failure to cure may result 162 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:34,800 in immediate termination. This was 163 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,360 pretty strong in the agreement. Um term 164 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,039 and termination. This one is kind of 165 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:40,960 interesting. I I originally wrote it up 166 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,440 as a five-year term and that we could 167 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,560 renew upon mutual agreement. Um their 168 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,840 only reservation is if they invest some 169 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:51,680 serious capital into something, they may 170 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,759 want to have a longer term agreement for 171 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:55,199 something like that. But again, that's 172 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:56,800 going to be separately negotiated if 173 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,840 that if and when that comes. 174 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:01,840 In the meantime, any either party may 175 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:04,319 terminate for material breach after a 176 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:06,160 notice and cure period have passed and 177 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,120 by mutual written agreement. 178 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,840 So, um this agreement is designed to 179 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,840 support a strong and stable FBO, 180 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,520 encourage smart growth and innovation, 181 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,360 protect the city's regulatory role in 182 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,560 public investment, and create a 183 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,160 long-term cooperative relationship that 184 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,039 helps the city airport thrive. That is 185 00:07:23,039 --> 00:07:26,319 the summary of the agreement um and 186 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:28,080 captures the whole the whole thing 187 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,749 without going into all 20 pages. 188 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:35,599 Wondering what the airport board 189 00:07:35,599 --> 00:07:38,560 thoughts are 190 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,639 on kind of the concept of having an 191 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:42,639 employee 192 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:44,960 part-time employee 193 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,800 versus having the FBO take management 194 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:56,469 role. I agree. 195 00:07:56,479 --> 00:08:00,720 Yeah, the city needs to be in control. 196 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,560 >> Yeah, our existing agreement, we pretty 197 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,360 much kind of said, "Take this thing and 198 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,960 manage it for us and we don't want to 199 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,599 hear about it," 200 00:08:11,599 --> 00:08:18,950 which is probably not wise. 201 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,840 » Yeah. 202 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,840 So, that'll be between the city and the 203 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,360 employee, 204 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,199 but I I need to talk with um I need to 205 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:31,840 talk with our city attorney and with HR. 206 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,839 I thought about saying here, we'll just 207 00:08:33,839 --> 00:08:36,320 give you the house and that's that's 208 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,959 your your salary and this is what's 209 00:08:38,959 --> 00:08:41,440 expected. I don't know if that's 210 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,880 something we can do for federal, you 211 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,200 know, 212 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,760 payment law and all that stuff. Besides, 213 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,600 One thing I hate about it is people tend 214 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,279 to um forget that thing they get for 215 00:08:55,279 --> 00:08:57,120 free and start to resent the thing that 216 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,399 they have to pay for. Um and they, you 217 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:03,200 know, it's it's the whole potatoes and 218 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,399 gravy thing. Um 219 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:09,040 if we give somebody a house and say 220 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,240 that's your payment, that's not 221 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,720 something they see every month. They 222 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,560 then say, "Man, I do all this work for 223 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:16,480 the city for nothing." They don't see 224 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,800 the payment coming in. So, I like the 225 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,120 idea of paying them a wage and actually 226 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,440 getting a time card and having that 227 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,120 direct accountability as to what they're 228 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,279 doing with their time. Hey, you know, 229 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:29,440 it's it's that time of year again. It's 230 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,120 time for us to do weeds. It's that time 231 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,480 of year again. It's time to do hanger 232 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,600 inspections. It's that time of year 233 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,760 again. It's time to you know, yeah, when 234 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,880 you're doing snow at three in the 235 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,279 morning, you're getting paid for it. You you don't you don't hate it as bad. 236 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:42,880 And if we give them a house to live in 237 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,040 at a red reduced rate because we we want 238 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,720 to we want them to live there and 239 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,279 provide that security 240 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:53,040 for the airport. That's why they get a 241 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,040 reduced rate, but then they're paying 242 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,120 the city for the house. We're getting 243 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,800 some revenue that comes in from that 244 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,480 which helps fund the salary of them 245 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,680 doing what they're doing. So in other 246 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:04,880 words, we could give it to them for free 247 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,560 and expect that or we can trade each 248 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:09,279 other checks and everybody's aware of 249 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:11,200 all the the accountability of money that 250 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,560 goes back and forth. It's just a better 251 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:13,920 way of doing it. It's a little bit more 252 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,680 transparent in my mind. So, that's way and I think it'll I think 253 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:19,600 it's a hard time to say I mean, it's a 254 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,760 harder thing to say we have an employee 255 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,680 that we don't pay anything but we give 256 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:26,079 them a house. How does that work on 257 00:10:26,079 --> 00:10:28,079 taxes? How does that work on I don't 258 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:30,880 know. It just gets weird. Seems a little 259 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,720 easier to exchange checks. 260 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,079 But that ultimately won't be a anything 261 00:10:38,079 --> 00:10:40,160 about that in the FBO contract because 262 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,200 the FBO is blind to our agreement with 263 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,600 our employee. The only thing they care 264 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,880 about is if they want to hire that same 265 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,079 employee to say do mechanic stuff or 266 00:10:52,079 --> 00:10:53,519 something like that, then they got to 267 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:55,440 pay they got to pay them and they're in 268 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,360 a second position to the city when it 269 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,279 comes to their their duties. Yeah. Their 270 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:03,360 priorities are that their first priority 271 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,519 just like any If Cali wanted to have a 272 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:10,079 side job running um as a realtor, I 273 00:11:10,079 --> 00:11:12,000 would say, "Okay, Cali, it just can't 274 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 interfere with your main job." And we 275 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,440 would have that conversation. So 276 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,600 similar. And if she and if I granted 277 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,600 that to Cali to go do that and then it 278 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,040 started to become a problem, I'd say, 279 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,680 "Okay, Cali, you can't do that anymore. 280 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:25,040 You got to choose." Right? That's the 281 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,800 secondary employment thing that the city 282 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,320 goes through. It would be the same thing 283 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,560 with this. And the FBO is comfortable 284 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:31,760 with that. And they're like, "But we 285 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,839 could pay him a different wage if we if 286 00:11:33,839 --> 00:11:36,320 the person that that you hired want 287 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,760 could do a mechanical or something like 288 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,959 that, I'm like, absolutely pay them 289 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:41,680 whatever you want. Um, which again, why 290 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:43,200 it's important for us to pay them for 291 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,800 what they're doing. Um, so that they 292 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,160 don't just look at the FB at the FBO as 293 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,680 their only source of income and they 294 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:50,720 kind of forget the fact they're getting 295 00:11:50,720 --> 00:12:03,910 a free house, right? 296 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,910 Yeah. 297 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,920 » So, one of the things that I've had a 298 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,519 little stress about as we've talked 299 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:13,680 about this for the past few months is 300 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:15,760 can we find somebody that would that 301 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,760 would agree to do this job? And I think 302 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,600 we can. Right now, when we put out a 303 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,920 position, we just put out a part-time 304 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,800 wreck assist assistant making not a lot 305 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,399 of hourly rate and we got we got a lot 306 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:30,160 of of candidates, good quality 307 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,160 candidates. Um the city manager position 308 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,639 of Enoch, they just got 34 candidates 309 00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:37,279 for that. Um I think it's a sign the 310 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:38,720 economy is starting to turn a little bit 311 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,320 when we put a government job out there 312 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,360 and we get a lot of applicants. Um, the 313 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,399 FBO specifically has somebody in mind 314 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:49,120 that they would like us to consider that 315 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,320 also does um that is a an airport that 316 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,120 is a a mechanic. 317 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,959 I've said, "Yeah, we'll interview them 318 00:12:56,959 --> 00:12:58,800 and if if they would work for us, then 319 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,320 we'll hire them, but they have to work 320 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,920 for us first." And I made that very 321 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,120 clear. So, from the FBO's perspective, 322 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,720 they don't have all the headache of the 323 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,480 airport management that they have to 324 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,079 they can just work. They can just do 325 00:13:10,079 --> 00:13:12,959 what they do as the FBO. Um, we left 326 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:14,880 fuel completely out of it as we have to 327 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,240 because we have a third party that does 328 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,639 fuel. The one thing we have discussed is 329 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:21,680 potentially um bringing that back under 330 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:23,440 the city umbrella and I need to have a 331 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,320 conversation with our fuel third party 332 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,959 and see if um if they're making a go of 333 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:31,120 it. Um I don't believe they're doing all 334 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,720 of the daily stuff that they're required 335 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,839 to do. So, I have some concerns there. 336 00:13:35,839 --> 00:13:38,240 And I really think that if we bring that 337 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,160 back under the city umbrella and manage 338 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,519 that, we may have to put a little bit of 339 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:44,560 money into the system. But if these guys 340 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:47,360 do what they're talking about doing, um, 341 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,200 I really hope we can get some more fuel 342 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,880 sales going out there and help to fund 343 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,040 the airport. Right now, I think we're 344 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,160 probably scraping the bottom of the 345 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,680 barrel and we're probably offering 346 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:57,920 bottom of the barrel 347 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,320 product. 348 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,279 Self fueling. I've heard concerns about 349 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:05,839 whether it's accurate. I don't know how 350 00:14:05,839 --> 00:14:10,160 well they're doing the daily testing. 351 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,079 I don't know. But um if these guys can 352 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:18,399 be successful and can have some more um 353 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:20,480 generate some more um traffic with 354 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,040 things they're doing and I keep trying 355 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,600 to woo SU to um maybe base a couple of 356 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,680 planes out of here or helicopters and 357 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,360 maybe buy some fuel. Um, you know, I 358 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,320 think it'd be a it would be a worthwhile 359 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,680 conversation to have with our fuel guy, 360 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,760 but the FBO has no interest in taking 361 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,920 over fuel. 362 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,079 Their their biggest concern is there's 363 00:14:46,079 --> 00:14:48,320 not enough gallons to be sold to offset 364 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,120 their liability 365 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,199 of taking over the fuel. They're really 366 00:14:53,199 --> 00:14:58,310 worried about the liability of the fuel 367 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,160 and the city's going to face the same 368 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,160 problems. take over the city. 369 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,639 >> Yes, I think we're already exposed to 370 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:08,399 the liability as we sit right now. My 371 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:10,720 thought is I think so. I need to check 372 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,639 with our insurance company, but I'm 373 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:15,680 pretty Well, I tell you this, if if 374 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,519 somebody gets water in their engine and 375 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:19,680 it stalls and they crash, you know, the 376 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,199 city is going to be named on that 377 00:15:21,199 --> 00:15:23,199 lawsuit whether or not we have a third 378 00:15:23,199 --> 00:15:24,639 party fuel person or not. They're going 379 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,800 to name all the people they can to 380 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,000 chase. Um, so I don't know exactly how 381 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,360 much liability we're exposed to 382 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,519 as by design or not. I need to talk with 383 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:38,720 our insurance company, but um, my 384 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,120 thought is is we're probably at the 385 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,920 bottom of what any fuel sales we could 386 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,519 get. We're probably worst case scenario 387 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:48,639 right now. If we can improve the 388 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:53,440 situation and at least offset our 389 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,199 investment and actually provide just I'm 390 00:15:57,199 --> 00:15:58,240 worried that the product that we're 391 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,120 offering out there is subpar 392 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,560 which is going to continue to hurt the 393 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,720 airport. That's my my ultimate. 394 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,160 >> Now we had we had to name the city as an 395 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,040 additional shirt on our insurance. 396 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:11,839 >> Yeah. 397 00:16:11,839 --> 00:16:14,160 >> Is that the way it is with Dave? 398 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,120 >> I'm sure it is but I don't know. I mean, 399 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,480 I'm I'm assuming so because usually in 400 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,920 anything like that, we'll name each 401 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,240 other as additional insured, but we 402 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,560 would make him have his own policy and 403 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,320 name us as an additional insured and he 404 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,519 would probably do the same. So, I don't 405 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:33,519 know. Fuel is a is a totally separate 406 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:35,040 conversation, but one that we're going 407 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,839 to have. Um, as it sits right now, if 408 00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:39,839 Dave Hston 409 00:16:39,839 --> 00:16:42,240 just continues to operate it for the 410 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,480 next five years, then he owns everything 411 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,959 out there. 412 00:16:46,959 --> 00:16:50,240 We've basically given him everything. 413 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,079 That's the way the agreement reads. 414 00:16:52,079 --> 00:16:54,160 >> Didn't he have to buy some of that stuff 415 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,320 originally? 416 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,800 >> He just had to operate it for 10 years. 417 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,639 >> Oh, I thought he had to buy a bunch of 418 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:03,360 the equipment. 419 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,720 >> I can't find any evidence of that. 420 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,640 But he hasn't put any investment into 421 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,559 it. And I don't think he's doing daily 422 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:13,360 tests. And when we had our last audit 423 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:15,919 from the FAA, there was 424 00:17:15,919 --> 00:17:18,559 several things that needed work and some 425 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:21,360 of it fairly expensive. The containment 426 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:24,079 um fence is wouldn't contain a gallon of 427 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:26,640 fuel that that block wall that's all 428 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,120 cracked up and everything. Um he needed 429 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:32,400 to upgrade the signage. Um again, I've 430 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,880 heard report reports that the the 431 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,799 gallons that you get isn't exactly 432 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:40,160 right. I don't think there's anything um 433 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,919 shady going on. I just think it's not 434 00:17:41,919 --> 00:17:50,470 that accurate. Um 435 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,559 Yeah. 436 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:54,000 >> Yeah. And I don't know if that's a 437 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,840 communications issue. I don't know what 438 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,240 sort of I don't know. Does he have 439 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,240 Wi-Fi? I don't know what system it is 440 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,960 and how it's reporting. And there's way too much um too many 441 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,200 unknowns there. It's kind of been my 442 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,799 whole issue with the airport for a long 443 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:11,200 time. It's very opaque to us as the city 444 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,000 to to step in and manage. So, I don't 445 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,280 know. We'll continue to look at the 446 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,520 fuel, but but these guys at the FBO 447 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,720 actually don't want anything to do with 448 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,039 it. And so whether we do something with 449 00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:23,760 fuel or not ourselves is yet to be 450 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,310 determined, but 451 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,559 yeah. 452 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:32,880 So anyways, that's that's the FBO um 453 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,840 agreement. Um they are going to be here 454 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,160 on site. Uh Mick has been working well 455 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,679 with with us in the transition. Um the 456 00:18:41,679 --> 00:18:44,080 new guys are going to be here on site. 457 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,600 um in a week, 458 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,600 little more than a week to do a walk 459 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,480 through um check everything out and 460 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,320 they've just been gearing up and moving 461 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,200 forward planning on everything. Um we're 462 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,039 not really offering a lot of traditional 463 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:01,440 FBO services as of day as as of right 464 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,480 now. So I don't think we really um have 465 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,039 anywhere to go but up 466 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:07,919 and so 467 00:19:07,919 --> 00:19:09,440 >> what's the name of the operation that's 468 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,200 coming in? Um, I don't know that they 469 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,520 were they were going to form an LLC. 470 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,559 They haven't given me the name of their 471 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:17,360 LC yet. We just know the three 472 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,840 principles that will be owners of it. 473 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,440 And we those are the guys that we've 474 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,960 been negotiating and talking with from 475 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,640 the start. So, they will have to get 476 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,559 their LC 477 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:28,960 complete and so they can um sign the 478 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,120 agreement. Um, I'm going to present the 479 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:32,640 same thing to the city council this 480 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,080 Thursday and um I'd like to get it kind 481 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,840 of wrapped up. I I have sent the copy of 482 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,000 the contract to them that has all this 483 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 stuff in here like like it was presented 484 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,880 and um and it's consistent with all the 485 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,520 discussions that we've had. We had a few 486 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,000 ideas that we had to work through some 487 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,080 concerns and friction and I think we've 488 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,600 got to a good point. I don't expect them 489 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,000 to push back on really any of this 490 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,080 stuff. I think we've kind of figured out 491 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,280 something that will work for them and 492 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,919 us. But it's possible that they may say 493 00:20:01,919 --> 00:20:04,000 they want a 10 year or not a fiveyear 494 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,760 and 495 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,360 I I doubt we'll see that, but if they 496 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,440 did, then we'll let the council, you 497 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,160 know, 498 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,640 debate and and do what we want to do. 499 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,200 But the goal is is that January 23rd, 500 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,760 they take over and I think we're on 501 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,760 track for that. So, worst case scenario, 502 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:29,510 the city steps in temporarily. 503 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,720 So, um you you may see a job 504 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,880 listing go out um in the next day or so 505 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,919 for airport manager, part-time airport 506 00:20:39,919 --> 00:20:42,960 manager. That will be the city 507 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,960 officially listing this position so we 508 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:50,240 can um look at candidates. Um 509 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,000 and uh but that doesn't don't let that 510 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,760 confuse you. That's the not anything to 511 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:01,110 do with really the FBO. 512 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:04,080 Any insight on the transition? any any 513 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,320 pitfalls to avoid you guys know of? 514 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,559 >> Well, I can't can't think of anything 515 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:13,039 specific, but I'm gonna throw myself 516 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:16,000 out. If they have any questions, I sure 517 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,480 appreciate them coming to me and asking. 518 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,679 >> Do you want to be on the hiring 519 00:21:19,679 --> 00:21:21,679 committee? 520 00:21:21,679 --> 00:21:23,200 >> No, not really. 521 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,640 >> Dave Cowan, do you want to be on the 522 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,080 hiring committee? 523 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,080 >> I I don't. We'd love to have somebody 524 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,240 that's been there and done that. 525 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,080 >> But, you know, 30 some odd years of 526 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,760 running that out there, we figured out a 527 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:34,799 few things to do. 528 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:36,880 >> Absolutely. And I will definitely tell 529 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,520 them, 530 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,200 in fact, I I I I talked with Gangas and 531 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,960 I said, "You you need to get to know our 532 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,600 airport board members. We're going to be 533 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,760 working together." And these guys used 534 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,440 to run that airport out there and they 535 00:21:51,440 --> 00:22:04,710 know a lot. So, 536 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,200 Gangus is. Yeah, he's he's building his 537 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,559 own home and he has some extra acreage 538 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:13,120 besides his house that he's thinking 539 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:14,799 about doing stuff, wondering about doing 540 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:22,310 stuff. 541 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,799 » Yeah. 542 00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:26,080 They've really gotten excited about 543 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,400 hanger development and I think what we want to do in fact it's not as a 544 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,520 specific item on here but I will I just 545 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,080 pointed out Genghask really wants to 546 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,440 create a a hanger list a priority list 547 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,200 so people can say I want a hanger I want 548 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,440 a hanger and that list will be official 549 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,600 it'll be we can we have a thing on the 550 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,840 website so people can if they can throw 551 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,840 their name out there for a hanger we can 552 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,600 actually judge how much demand is out 553 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,120 there. Um they wanted an exclusive on 554 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,200 hanger development on the airport and I 555 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,080 told him no. I thought the whole thing 556 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,000 was going to unravel over that. Like why 557 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,520 would we give you an exclusive to 558 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,159 develop hangers on the airport? We have 559 00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:08,880 tons of acreage out there. Just being 560 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,960 the FBO doesn't why would we give you an 561 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,480 exclusive, right? And they said, "Well, 562 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,760 that's probably a deal breaker because 563 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,159 we want to be able to if if we do stuff 564 00:23:16,159 --> 00:23:19,600 to make this airport great, we we want 565 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,320 to be able to have some opportunity 566 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,320 develop hangers and and lease them. And 567 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,320 I'm like, that's fine. You're not going 568 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,919 to have an exclusive for the entire 569 00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:30,240 airport. So, we need to come up with a 570 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,200 good way to what we may do is is let 571 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,880 them say, okay, we want to have 572 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,600 maybe a a section of hangers that that 573 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,280 they have the ability they can put their 574 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,280 name on to develop those hangers in that 575 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,840 spot because we have that we have the plan that shows several rows, 576 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,320 several taxi ways that go up in there. 577 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,240 So, we may say fine, if you guys want to 578 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,120 do um if you want to write your name 579 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,679 down and reserve those and figure out 580 00:23:57,679 --> 00:23:59,679 how to fund it and do those fine, but 581 00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:00,640 we're not going to give you the whole 582 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,240 airport. The that other group that we 583 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,159 talked about, they're the ones that have 584 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:06,080 they have now executed the purchase of 585 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,919 that property that we were doing, the 586 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:10,000 through the fence agreement, the what we 587 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,440 call the Idaho group, which are actually 588 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,400 from Spanish Fork. They are they're 589 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,919 really excited and want to still move 590 00:24:15,919 --> 00:24:17,440 forward and do something with a hanger 591 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,400 development as well. And so I wanted to 592 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,840 do something that didn't pit them 593 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,400 against each other, didn't put the city 594 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,480 in some sort of a, you know, between a 595 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,880 rock and a tight spot. But, um, the more 596 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,960 the marrier if we can. By the way, we 597 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,279 have officially applied for the grant to 598 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:36,080 put the utilities and fix the road. That 599 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,640 was officially filed Christmas Eve, 400 600 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,240 p.m. Christmas Eve. We finally got it 601 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,960 in. We did get we found out that we got 602 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,720 the award from the state. We got 603 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,200 $600,000 from the state and we have 604 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,640 about six million that we're waiting on 605 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,080 from the federal government to do that 606 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,320 grant. It was a pain. Even after we 607 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,000 thought it was done, took four months to 608 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,919 get it fully applied for, but the grant 609 00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:01,600 looks really, really, really good. So 610 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,600 hopefully if that goes off we'll have a 611 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,240 new road power underground power 612 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,880 underground water all the way out not 613 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,400 only to the airport but around the 614 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,559 hangers and on out to Goodfellow which 615 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:14,559 will be which will allow us to be able 616 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:16,640 to expand hangers out there because then 617 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,240 all they have to do is just come off 618 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,679 that road with water power and and a 619 00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:25,200 gate. Right. So, um, I'm really excited 620 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,880 about that because we could say we could 621 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,679 put them in blocks, A block, B block, C 622 00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:32,320 block, and we could say, okay, if you 623 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,559 want to do a whole project, then fine, 624 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:38,000 you can reserve a block and and if you 625 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,600 want to do a whole project, and we have 626 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,960 some sort of criteria for them to 627 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,480 reserve that many, some sort of an 628 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,640 agreement or they pay a certain amount 629 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,480 to the city to for it to be reserved. 630 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,000 And then we're also want a list of of 631 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,480 people, individual 632 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,000 potential hanger owners that want to 633 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,480 sign up and it'll be first in priority 634 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,679 and we'll get that list and and so we 635 00:26:01,679 --> 00:26:02,799 just kind of need to figure out the 636 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:04,880 mechanism of all that. But these guys 637 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,279 really want to uh insist on us having 638 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:09,760 that and and so do I. And I want that to 639 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,240 be um really transparent. I know that 640 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,760 I've heard a lot of people got burned 641 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,120 because they thought they were on a 642 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:16,640 priority list and when it came right 643 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,520 down to brass tax, they weren't and they 644 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,039 were pretty frustrated with the city 645 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:24,799 that did that to them. So, anyways, 646 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:29,279 I'm excited. I think we're I think we're good. We're going to transition to 647 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:33,600 a new chapter. Um Mick and group have um 648 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,120 maintained the the runway and the 649 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:41,200 prairie dogs and the um snow removal. 650 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,880 They've done the best they could with 651 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,760 city equipment. Um it is one of our 652 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,240 items that we get new equipment there. 653 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,640 Um but they've done a pretty good job. 654 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,880 They their their business didn't take 655 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,960 off and run like I think they had hoped. 656 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,480 I think if everything had gone the way 657 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,960 that the city's plan was with with 658 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,080 Mick's group, um I think that they would 659 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,320 have been more successful and and of 660 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,159 course it didn't end up that way. So, 661 00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:08,240 we'll see if these guys can make a 662 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:19,190 better go of it. 663 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,720 » Yeah. Unless somebody's got anything 664 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,440 else on that, I'm ready to talk about 665 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:36,549 the next one. 666 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,559 What are we waiting on a motion or what? 667 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:39,520 >> No, nothing to do. 668 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,520 >> We don't need a motion, do we? 669 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,870 >> Number 670 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,039 four. Number four. 671 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:48,960 >> Okay. You ready for me to go to four? 672 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,400 >> Yes. 673 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,679 >> Oh, sorry. Five. 674 00:27:51,679 --> 00:27:53,360 >> Five. Yeah. Five. 675 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,240 >> Okay. So these five and six go hand in 676 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,559 hand. Um are capital projects for the 677 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:02,880 fiscal year 26. 678 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,640 Um 679 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,440 this is this is right off of that the 680 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,640 state uh with state UD do um we they 681 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,320 have their system called blackat. Now 682 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,279 this is what we have approved with the 683 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,559 FAA for capital projects. 684 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,799 The pavement preservation apron and 685 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,840 taxiways is ongoing. It's open right 686 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,320 now. Um 687 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,559 I haven't has anybody seen if have they 688 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:30,799 gone out and been doing crack seal? 689 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:31,679 >> No. 690 00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:33,039 >> Because they're going to do that during 691 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,760 the cold part of the winter. 692 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,200 >> But I haven't heard that they've come 693 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,600 yet. 694 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,399 >> I haven't seen anybody out there. So, 695 00:28:40,399 --> 00:28:42,240 they're doing the crack seal in the cold 696 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,840 part of the winter and then in the 697 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,240 spring between now and June they'll come 698 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,640 in and I think they awarded it to 699 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,240 um we awarded it to 700 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,799 oh the asphalt 701 00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:58,720 company 702 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,120 not um 703 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,039 straight straight stripe. What's that 704 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:03,760 called? 705 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,520 >> Straight stripe. 706 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,360 >> I think they awarded it to straight 707 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,240 stripe. they'll come in and do the the 708 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,679 fog coat and restripe everything. 709 00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:17,200 Um, and that's ongoing and will be done 710 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,039 by the end of June. That was a UD do 711 00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:23,279 specific grant. FAA didn't have any 712 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:26,799 involvement in that. Um, 211,000 was the 713 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:28,640 estimate and the and the bidding came in 714 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,549 at total of 214,000. 715 00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:35,279 And then the next two items on the 716 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,039 system, you'll notice that we have the 717 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:40,320 AWAS in 2026 718 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,600 and snow removal equipment in 2027. So, 719 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,360 as I was working with um Lochner, our 720 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,279 consultant. 721 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:51,440 So, I'm just going to mesh five and six 722 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,679 together because the six is discussion 723 00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:58,080 on RFP for our airport consultant. Um, 724 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,559 when we last had our CIP meeting with 725 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:04,159 the FAA and UD do aeronautics, 726 00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:06,960 um, they had the snow removal equipment 727 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,200 ahead of AWAS. 728 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,880 And, um, I told them, "No, let's let's 729 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,960 reverse those. Let's get the AWAS first 730 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,720 and the snow removal equip equipment 731 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,159 second." And um I said, "Yeah, we need 732 00:30:20,159 --> 00:30:21,679 new snow removal equipment, but 733 00:30:21,679 --> 00:30:23,679 depending on who does what, especially 734 00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:26,720 with the new FBO, the city may take over 735 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,360 maintenance and we may we may not 736 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,840 prioritize snow removal equipment this 737 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,520 year. We'll maybe do it next year." And 738 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,520 everybody agrees that we need an AWAS 739 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,039 sooner rather than later. Um, it is one 740 00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:40,720 of the things specifically that our new 741 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,039 FBO really is interested in and I think 742 00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:45,440 that having accurate and up-to-date w 743 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,760 weather is is a is a huge priority. As 744 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,760 long as we can remove snow, I think we 745 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,960 can buy another year with that. So, I 746 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,919 kind of insisted on that and they they 747 00:30:55,919 --> 00:30:57,679 sure enough they re they rearranged it 748 00:30:57,679 --> 00:30:59,360 and approved it. Well, when it came time 749 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,159 to start doing the all of the back-end 750 00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:07,600 work on it, our existing um consultant 751 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,559 said, "Okay, we got a problem." 752 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:14,720 When we did our five-year CIP, when we 753 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,960 awarded them as the consultant to do our 754 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,520 CIP projects, 755 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,720 the AWAS was outside of that five-year 756 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,840 window, but the snow removal equipment 757 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,200 was within it. because we gave them a 758 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,760 five-year agreement 759 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,320 and at that time one was in and the 760 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,919 other was out. So, they can't legally 761 00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:42,960 help us do the AWAS now. 762 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,919 So, we have one of a couple of options. 763 00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:47,760 We can wait and do it next year and do 764 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,200 the snow removal equipment this year or 765 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,480 we have to put out to bid our consultant 766 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:00,960 CIP stuff um I think in June anyways 767 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,320 for the following fiscal years. Well, we 768 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,320 can we can do that now and then have and 769 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,240 include all the things within the next 770 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,919 five years on our list and um and then 771 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:16,559 we can start on the AWAS now. We just 772 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,120 have to put it out to bid for the for 773 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,840 the airport consultant now. So I guess 774 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,559 my question to you guys is do you agree 775 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,600 with me that the priority is AWAS over 776 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,039 snow removal equipment? 777 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:34,320 And if so, let's do the RFP 778 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,990 six months early. 779 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,320 » Is the snow removal equipment available 780 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,080 from the city when it's needed? 781 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,840 >> Yeah, that's what they're using right 782 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,000 now is a is a city snowplow. We just 783 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,279 dedicate one for them. 784 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:50,480 I don't even know if we're going to get 785 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,120 snow. 786 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,679 >> What's the downside to doing the bid six 787 00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:57,039 months early? 788 00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,360 >> No downside. 789 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,960 I think when I ask them, they're a 790 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,240 little nervous that we may not award 791 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,279 that to them. Um, and I obviously I 792 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:06,480 can't promise that we are going to award 793 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,000 it to them. Um, Jud with Armstrong and 794 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,240 now Lochner have been they've been 795 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,919 really good. They've been one of the few 796 00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:15,840 things that has 797 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,600 preserved my insanity my um in the three 798 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,279 and a half years that I've been here. Um 799 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,640 they have been absolutely stellar, but 800 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,679 that doesn't mean they're you're 801 00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:27,600 guaranteed to get the award. We're going 802 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,919 to put it out to bid six months one way 803 00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:31,360 or the other. So, they don't have 804 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,519 anything to be afraid of. If they've if 805 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,919 they earn the the award for the next 806 00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:38,399 one, fine. If they don't, then they're 807 00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:42,720 going to what? Miss out on 808 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,240 starting the process for snow removal 809 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,240 equipment. So, I it is what it is. Um 810 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,799 there's no reason to not award it or not 811 00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:51,519 start the process earlier and and and at 812 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:52,799 least that would allow us to move 813 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,600 forward with the AWS. 814 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,760 >> And Armstrong has been good to the city 815 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,279 for a long time. 816 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,360 >> Yeah. 817 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,960 I've been a little nervous. They 818 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,519 promoted Jud to basically be the boss. 819 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:09,520 And I was really concerned that our 820 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,440 level of service potentially could fall 821 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,399 off because because you know how it is 822 00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:16,320 in business, it really is about the 823 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,399 people. You have a good company and you 824 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:22,800 have a bad service rep. Um, and Jud 825 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,639 promised me from the start of him being 826 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,560 promoted, he's now over like I can't 827 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,520 like three states. Um he promised me 828 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,200 that service would not fall off and that 829 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,599 he would still be very very very very 830 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:35,679 involved in Perowan airport and his 831 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,760 promise has been true. I sent an email 832 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,480 this morning to him and Connor and 833 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,359 Thorston and Jud replied five minutes 834 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:44,960 later. Boom boom boom boom here's the 835 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,320 answers to all your questions. That's Jud. his his level of service is 836 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,159 great and there's never been a question 837 00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,960 of whose side they're on and and they 838 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,720 give us 839 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:56,639 especially when we're battling the FAA. 840 00:34:56,639 --> 00:35:00,320 They are they are just I wish all 841 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,760 consultants and engineers that we deal 842 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,440 with were that good. I'm not I'm just up 843 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,280 here like raving about them, but that's 844 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,040 just the the honest facts of things. So, 845 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,800 but I'm sure there's capable people out 846 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,680 there. 847 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,920 So, in other words, here's the capital 848 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,079 projects. Um, really the only ones that 849 00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:21,200 really matter is um the AWA snow removal 850 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,280 equipment because of what I discussed. 851 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,160 The other um big thing that is out there 852 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,720 is um 853 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:32,960 the the perimeter fencing. Um, just to 854 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,720 be very careful in a public meeting, but 855 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:36,480 to give you a little bit of a heads up, 856 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,680 you remember when we had last year when 857 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:45,359 we updated the the CIP list, the FAA 858 00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:46,800 started insisting that we do a new 859 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,640 prairie dog fence. And I was like, "What 860 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,839 about a deer fence?" Remember that 861 00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:52,800 conversation? They said, "Pause this 862 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,960 conversation. We'll meet again in a in a 863 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,960 couple of months." They never came back 864 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,960 to us ever. An entire year went by and 865 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,960 this last I think it was November when 866 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,000 we do our meetings with all of them and 867 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,839 um I thought what are they going to do 868 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:09,440 now? Are they because they never 869 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,119 responded they I don't know if they 870 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,359 didn't have the funding if the politics 871 00:36:13,359 --> 00:36:15,440 got weird for them or what but they 872 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,680 never brought it up at our last meeting. 873 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,040 They adopted this just as it sits and 874 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,560 they never brought up the perimeter 875 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:30,230 fencing which is slated for 2028. 876 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,400 So, 877 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,480 I think that they don't have the funding 878 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,480 to force us to build a prairie dog fence 879 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,880 for millions and pay for it right now. I 880 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,640 think if they did, they would because 881 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,079 they wanted to bump that to the top of 882 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,160 the list and bump everything down. 883 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,800 That's what they wanted to do. And my 884 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,800 only thing was fine, if you're going to 885 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,040 make us build a new prairie dog fence, 886 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,800 make the fence go both ways and let's 887 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,320 keep the deer herd that actually is a 888 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,839 threat to human life off the runway. And 889 00:36:57,839 --> 00:36:59,599 they couldn't argue with that logic, but 890 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,520 I think the the funding and not only the 891 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,880 funding, but the design is just not 892 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,119 there. So luckily they they didn't they 893 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:06,800 didn't mention a peep about it and 894 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,240 therefore we can move on with the 895 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:10,720 priorities that we have. So that's the 896 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:19,190 whole deal on the capital projects. 897 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,200 and frankly 898 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,480 RFP. Well, 899 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,680 since we're talking about both of them 900 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,040 at once, do you guys have any 901 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,480 preference? Are you okay if we put it 902 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,480 out for RFP on the airport consultants? 903 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,760 >> No, we're good with it. Okay, we'll uh 904 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,440 we'll keep the airport board in the loop 905 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,440 on that and um 906 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,800 probably what we'll do is we'll put it 907 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,640 out and then when we get the we get the 908 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,520 um different proposals that come in, 909 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,680 we'll summarize them all and um 910 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,440 if it works within the timing of the 911 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,760 next airport board, we'll uh we'll bring 912 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,240 them to you guys and get your input. If 913 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:01,920 we need to move quicker, maybe we'll 914 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,520 have a special airport board meeting. I 915 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,359 don't know if there's a if we do that, 916 00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:07,200 we would just do it in lie of the next 917 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,079 month. And um but I because we're going 918 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,280 to want to probably move on that as 919 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,960 quick as possible, especially so they 920 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,910 can get designing and and get the AWAS. 921 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,040 You never know with the federal 922 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,720 government when they'll shut down or 923 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:23,280 what. So that could potentially and in 924 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,280 January that's a high likelihood again. 925 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:31,349 So that could interrupt our our stuff. 926 00:38:31,359 --> 00:38:41,750 So that's it, chair. That's what I have. 927 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:47,510 » Nope. 928 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,119 » Did anyone answer if they thought the 929 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:50,720 snow removal or the AWAS was higher 930 00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:52,240 priority? I didn't hear if anyone had 931 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:53,599 input on that. 932 00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,040 >> Did we answer that question? 933 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,870 >> Yeah. 934 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:09,109 Okay. I just didn't hear the answer. 935 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:10,160 » Okay. Thank you. 936 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,400 >> Do Do we have a lot of demand and call 937 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,079 for AWAS? People pilots really want it 938 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:18,400 that use our airport. 939 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,960 >> I'm not a pilot. So, 940 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,960 >> I see shaking heads out here. 941 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,232 >> There's one right there that says 942 00:39:25,232 --> 00:39:26,720 [laughter] 943 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:28,560 Isn't that higher priority than using an 944 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,240 old snowplow versus new snowplow? That 945 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,000 was what I thought. 946 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000 >> Long as the snow's off the runway. Yeah, 947 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,079 the sauce is really beneficial. 948 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:38,800 >> Yeah. 949 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,280 Yep. 950 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,079 Um other thing in staff comments. Um are 951 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:46,720 you guys did did they did somebody come 952 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,880 out and fix the gate that was broke? 953 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,599 >> No, not yet. Um Mick's dad asked me 954 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:53,920 about it and I said Mick is the one that 955 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,160 hired the company last time. Um they 956 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,320 need to warranty it and so got them the 957 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,480 vendor name and he was going to call 958 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,280 them and have them warranty it. 959 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,880 But I hadn't heard if it got fixed or 960 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,560 not because I'm kind of out of that that 961 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,920 loop. 962 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,680 >> It's still open. That's all as far as I 963 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,480 know. 964 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,670 >> I don't slow down there. 965 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,040 » Second gate. Well, we'll get that fixed 966 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,760 one way or the other. So, 967 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,200 >> it was working for a while 968 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,440 >> for quite a while, 969 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,839 but then then for some reason it it 970 00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:30,079 would go closed, then it would open up 971 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,560 and it go closed and it opened up and I 972 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,599 tried to reset it several times and 973 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,320 couldn't get it to work right. So, 974 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:38,720 >> did 975 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:40,400 >> sometimes you got to get out of the car 976 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,440 and wipe the 977 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,320 >> Oh, the sensors 978 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,640 >> reflector off if it won't work. So, 979 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,880 >> so I like it open. 980 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,480 >> So, is the um is the system that we have 981 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,560 because I I have not gone out and looked 982 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,720 at it since they fixed it. Did they 983 00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,640 install new equipment? 984 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,319 >> They did. They changed they changed uh 985 00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:04,240 Oh, it used to have a a loop in the 986 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:04,800 ground. 987 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,359 >> Uhhuh. 988 00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:07,599 >> And now they change it to an infrared. 989 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:08,000 >> Okay. 990 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,359 >> Like the main gate is 991 00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:13,030 >> Yeah. 992 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,720 Well, we got to fix it. I know everybody 993 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:18,710 loves when it's open, but 994 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:28,390 we'll get her fixed. It's all I have 995 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:35,030 for public. We are 996 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,720 » Hello, Matt Jacus, owner. Hangarate 997 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:38,960 Hanger Charlie. I'm very excited about 998 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,280 AWS. Uh right now I've got a system at 999 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,800 my home that I can access through my 1000 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,200 phone in the air to get weather. So it's 1001 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,000 Do you know which version it is? 1002 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,960 There's AWS one, two, and three. Well, 1003 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,119 all I know is that they have an 1004 00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,920 estimated cost because we haven't got to 1005 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,240 the design portion yet, but they they 1006 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,560 came up with that number somehow. So 1007 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,920 whoever came up with that number, 1008 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,240 probably Armstrong, Lochner, they would 1009 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:05,920 know what they were planning on. But my 1010 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,880 guess is the latest version. 1011 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,319 >> Yes, because some have different, you 1012 00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:11,760 know, wind and temperature wind 1013 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,200 temperature clouds, wind temperature 1014 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,520 clouds, visibility that it depends on 1015 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,680 how sophisticated you want to get, you 1016 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,640 know, could drive up that number. Um, 1017 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,160 secondly, it's been a long time since 1018 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,400 I've had employees, and I'm just trying 1019 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,640 to wrap my head around the the part-time 1020 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,280 employee. Do you envision this employee 1021 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,000 kind of like being on call for when you 1022 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,280 need something done? Is 1023 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,640 I I guess I'm I don't remember employee 1024 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,640 law too well and I'm I'm just going to 1025 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,680 say I really don't know the ability to 1026 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,119 call a part-timer but be on call all the 1027 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:50,640 time is kind of confusing me. I just was 1028 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,200 >> so from from the from our perspective, 1029 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:59,040 we have a few part-time employees that have a variable schedule and our 1030 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,040 big constraint is is they can't work 1031 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,400 more than 25 hours a week and actually 1032 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,040 the federal law says 29. At that point, 1033 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,960 we have to consider them full-time and 1034 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,200 offer them benefits and the whole deal. 1035 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,440 >> But they're still on call 247. 1036 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,079 >> Yeah. Okay. So we will we will hire them 1037 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,800 on the basis of 1038 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,000 >> if it's very if it's a very unique job 1039 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,240 you're going to be on call at all times 1040 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,880 and we'll we'll arrange for them to have 1041 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,520 backup through another city employee 1042 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,680 probably through public works in case 1043 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,800 they're going to leave and go on 1044 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,359 vacation or something like that right 1045 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:37,200 and um we'll have somebody cross trainin 1046 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,359 to do that and then we'll say yeah 1047 00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:40,720 you're going to be variable schedule 1048 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:44,079 they may make one work one hour one week 1049 00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,880 and 30 hours the next week as long as 1050 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,280 they on average keep their keep their 1051 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,720 hours under 25. They get 26 27 hours. 1052 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:55,359 Cali gets nervous and tells me, Dan, 1053 00:43:55,359 --> 00:43:57,040 they just went over 25 hours and I'm 1054 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,960 like, I know we got to come to to watch 1055 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,480 their hours next time. But that's the 1056 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,280 arrangement. 1057 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,560 >> Okay. Um suppose the city hires someone 1058 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,839 who lives local um not a requirement to 1059 00:44:07,839 --> 00:44:10,640 live in that house. What would be the 1060 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,359 plan for that property if that becomes 1061 00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:14,720 the case? 1062 00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:18,160 >> So that that the property is actually 1063 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,760 there's no dedicated property for the 1064 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,359 house. The house just sits on the 1065 00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:23,040 airport property. 1066 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,040 >> We want to get somebody living in there 1067 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,359 that will agree to do provide airport 1068 00:44:27,359 --> 00:44:28,079 security. 1069 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:28,640 >> I see. 1070 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,359 >> One way or the other. So, um, down in 1071 00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:34,480 Canab, it's which is a county airport, 1072 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,280 they actually have a 1073 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,640 sheriff's deputy that lives in the house 1074 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,119 and it's part of his pay package, but he 1075 00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,280 also has to provide security for the 1076 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,920 airport and it's one of it's part of his 1077 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,640 incentive package. So if if we hire an 1078 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,200 employee and they do not want the house, 1079 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,640 we're then going to look to find 1080 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,880 somebody else who in an agreement for 1081 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,560 reduced rent will keep an eye on the 1082 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,240 airport. Basically, all they'd have to 1083 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,000 do is literally keep an eye on it and if 1084 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,319 there's a problem, call somebody 1085 00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:06,640 >> if it's not the employee that lives 1086 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,440 there. 1087 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,200 >> Very excited about the crack seal in the 1088 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,640 taxi way as well. 1089 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,880 >> Yeah, Dave and I have been out in front 1090 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,920 of our house with blowtorrch. So, thank 1091 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:24,950 you. 1092 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,560 No, just if you know somebody when we 1093 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,000 post that job 1094 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,920 >> ultimately I'd like somebody that has a 1095 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,560 CDL that is very handy 1096 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,160 knows like has a brain. [laughter] 1097 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,390 Um, 1098 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,560 there's probably a few aeronautical 1099 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,720 pilot type people. There's probably a 1100 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:52,240 few, um, I don't know. 1101 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:54,400 And they, again, the FBO does have 1102 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,000 somebody in mind. I want to interview 1103 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,599 them, but I don't want to hire them just 1104 00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,839 because they're good at wrenching on a 1105 00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:02,160 helicopter. They need to be able to run 1106 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,640 a snow plow without running the blade 1107 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,160 down in three passes up and down the 1108 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,599 airport. So, they got to be able to do 1109 00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:14,160 some technical stuff. They got to put up 1110 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,390 with me and Cali. 1111 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:34,069 » Yes. 1112 00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,800 » I would make that motion 1113 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:43,589 >> and I second it. 1114 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:44,480 All 1115 00:46:44,480 --> 00:47:04,309 >> right. 1116 00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:08,400 » That's that spreadsheet. No.