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costly.

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» But like

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Yeah, it ruined our secondary water
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[clears throat]

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» Beautiful.

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[laughter]

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So, it is 5:31 and since we don't have a
mayor, we need to elect a mayor proamp.

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Kelly, are you ready
for us to be okay? I'd like to nominate

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uh David Burton for mayor promp.
>> Better him than me. I second it.

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» All in favor? I I
>> I

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
>> Call the Carin City Council meeting to

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order. It is now.
>> Can you turn on your microphone or put

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it to your face?
>> What is that? your microphone.

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» Nobody can hear me.
>> Okay, it's August. Do I need to start

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over?
>> No.

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» Okay, it's August 27th
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p.m.

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Okay. Do we have some opening
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» Michelle?
>> Okay. Our opening ceremonies will be

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given by Council Member Toppam.
Our

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father in heaven, we bow our heads
before thee this day to ask a special

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blessing as we come together as a city
council and a community. Please bless

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that we may be able to go through these
agenda items with respect to one

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another, hear everyone out and make the
decisions that are best for our city. We

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are also so very thank thankful for all
of the moisture that we have received

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and
pray that we can continue to receive

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what you think that we need. And we are
so very thankful for this beautiful

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community that we live in. And I say
these things in the name of Jesus

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Christ. Amen.
>> And amen.

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» Please stand.

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» I pledge alce to the flag of the United
States of America and to the

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stands one
indivisible.

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» Thank you, Council Member Toppam.

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Are [clears throat] there any conflicts
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anything on the agenda?
>> No.

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» No.
>> Thank you. Hearing none, we will now

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proceed with public comments.
Is there anyone that would like to give

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a comment on something that they have in
concern with the city that isn't on the

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agenda that they'd like to bring forth
at this time?

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Well, seeing none,
we will move to the consent agenda. This

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is regular items that are approved by
the council regularly. Items six and

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seven. Six is the M minutes from the
special work meeting August 13th

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and the city council meeting on August
13th of 2026 and the warrant register

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for August 27th, 2026.
>> Mayor, I move to approve consent agenda

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items six and seven.
I'll second it.

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» Okay, it's been moved and seconded.
Approve the consent agenda. All in

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favor?
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» I any Excuse me. Any opposed?
Okay, the consent agenda passes.

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We'll now move to the action agenda
number eight,

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which involves a temporary alcohol event
permit for September 19th, 2026 for

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Sweet Pea Farm and Orchard DA Olrich,
owner. I propose that we uh grant the

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temporary alcohol event permit for
September 19th, 2026 for Sweet Pea Farm

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and Orchard uh Daich
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» I'll second it.
>> It's been moved and seconded that we

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approve the temporary alcohol event
permit for Sweet Pea Farms for September

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19th, 2026 for Dao Ultridge Oldrich,
excuse me. All in favor? I

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» Any opposed?
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event permit.
>> Uh item number nine, consider proposed

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zone change for parcel
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from A1 to R2.
Dan, do you have a presentation on that?

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Um I don't we did discuss it last um
last time in the work agenda um in

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detail. So I don't have anything planned
to presentwise but I can certainly

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answer any questions. The uh
the uh um property is in front of you um

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for the zone change request.

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So is there any discussion?

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Is there someone to answer questions?
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Um,
listening to a lot of uh citizens uh

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both in the green area and the the
little squares on the top of the page on

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the left. Um, do you know where
I don't know if this proper to ask or

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not, but they've been asking I don't
know. Um, do you know where the first

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street would go through to exit that
property?

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So, [clears throat] there's going to be,
excuse me, going to be the roadway on

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the north north end the 100 north would
be the first roadway to go in and it

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also connect to the two roadways to the
north as well. So there'd be three

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points of access
>> like right off the bat.

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» Right off the bat, you can see the phase
line in the middle [clears throat] right

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at the north end of the first one.

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» So 100 North
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to connect it to the existing roadway on
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» but that road's not built yet. No, it's
it ends just in front of that property

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over in the Aspen Cove subdivision.
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» there's a a little line right there
where the asphalt ends. You can see that

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kind of a dotted line. It would continue
to that point.

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» So, it' exit there and roll down to 775
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» and then 660 north.
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» So, that's one access point. Then the
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be the other two access points.
So the two at the top of the page. Okay.

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» Is that property secured that's off from
what is that on 100 north through that

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Aspen Cove subdivision right there where
it joins. There's a little strip that's

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not owned by them, but they've been
talking to the owner and she's and

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they've been agreeable to
part ways with it and allow the roadway

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to pass through.
>> They're agreeable in what way?

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» To allow the purchase to happen and let
the the roadway pass through. And

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nothing's happened. The zone change has
to happen first before they finalize

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agreements and see if everything will
work out.

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So the two exits,
the concern that citizens have and also

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myself is the two exits going to going
north [clears throat] with our new 42

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well 60 foot rideway and 42 foot asphalt
and actually rolls into those streets.

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Do you know how wide those streets are?
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Uh right there at the top it would be 42
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» Well, I mean
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» going into that property. Oh, to the
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» How how wide those streets are?
>> I don't I I can't tell you. I know it's

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it's built for what was standard when
when it was built. Their concern is

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they're substandard roads um with no
curbon gutter um and they're

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approximately 28 feet of asphalt.
My last measurements. Yeah. So that's

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those are the my concerns.

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Well, and my concern is that that
property hadn't been secured yet for

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that other access.
It's just a tenative agreement.

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» We're not considering the subdivision
though. We're considering a zone change.

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» So, [clears throat] they can develop it
as it sits as an R1 with a few less

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houses or lots. The question is is
whether R2 or not.

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» Okay.

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» Well, I'll make a motion for discussion
that we leave it at an R1.

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It is an R1.
>> It's an A1 right now.

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» A A1.
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» that was an R1 when they bought it,
right? Correct.

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» So, we were here a few city councils ago
when it was going for R3. And at that

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time, it was recommended by the city
council to make go to R2, which is why

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we're back here requesting the R2.

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So, to answer your question, Lyall, it's
it's currently zoned as an R as an A1,

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» but if they want to do a subdivision
with the current zoning, it will it will

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treat it like an R1. Does that make
sense? They don't have to reszone in

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order to subdivide
>> an R1.

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» It will be treated like an R1.
>> Yeah. So, an R1 and A1 are basically the

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same
>> when it comes to development. Yeah.

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» Okay.
And they were trying to get the R3,

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which is the same, if I'm not mistaken,
it's the same as the neighboring

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subdivision. They're trying to go for
the same zoning. So now we're doing

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something a little less dense than
what's neighboring. It's it's a

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development.

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» I just think the citizens around
their main concern is like the density

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of it and putting all of that traffic
through.

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And this is not your fault. like their
substandard roads, you know, putting all

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of those homes and everything through
their

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through their subdivisions.
>> That's I think that's the main thing.

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Correct me if I'm wrong you guys, but
like the phone calls that I've come that

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I have fielded is like they would like
not to see as dense as it is around.

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Uh, I'd like to ask Dan a question about
density. What's the difference in your

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calculation of density from A1 to R2?
Um, the difference is [clears throat] in

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the lot size for single family
residences.

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if if there's R2, so their proposed
subdivision is single family residences.

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Obviously, they could change it and do
do something else with twin homes or

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something. From a single family resident
standpoint, if these parcels were were

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at the minimum of 7,500 square ft, um it
would be one thing. The the reality is

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is the parcels average probably
somewhere in the neighborhood of 82

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8,300. There's parcels that are close to
R1. They're almost 10,000 square feet.

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There's a bunch of parcels that are
larger than 8,000. There's a few parcels

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that are smaller, just smaller than
8,000. 78 78 78. And um these

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[clears throat] are the smallest ones on
this right side.

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Um these parcels, there used to be four
here. Now there's three. So, um,

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anyways, my point is is they they're
getting 35

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parcels in the subdivision
laid out. They could go smaller, but

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that's the way they've laid it out with
parcels about that large. So, if they if

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they if we don't approve the zone change
and it stays A1, they're basically going

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to have to force them to do 10,000
square foot lots instead of like 80,

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whatever the average is of all those. I
ran the math figuring that see if it

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averages about 8,200
it basically means um a couple less lots

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like in the neighborhood of I don't know
four or five lots less but effectively

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it's going to look pretty similar um if
you just if you add up the acreage

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divided by 35 then divide it back out by
10,000 um it instead of 35, it's

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probably, I don't know, 28, 29. I don't
know. I'm not not laying out their

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subdivision. I'm just trying to do raw
math. So, you may squeeze a little bit

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of density out of there, but it's
already not as dense as it could be

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under R2. That's my point.
>> But that's under their [clears throat]

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proposal now. But it could be denser. I
mean, there is the possibility of that.

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So, if they were to come back with a
with twin homes, twin homes uh require

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10,000 square feet for both homes to sit
on, giving you effective density of

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5,000 square feet per lot is the
maximum. Um, obviously that's more homes

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in there than this. Um, so yeah,
theoretically it could come back with a

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different thing and be 5,000 square foot
per residential unit.

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Okay, we have a motion to leave it at A1
with no zone change, but we I don't

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believe we had a second.
>> I second it.

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» Okay, we have a motion in a second to
leave it as without zone change is A1.

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Is there any more discussion?

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And all those in favor of the motion on
the table, please say I.

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» I.
>> I.

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» I.
>> Any opposed?

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» I.
>> No. I'm I.

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» Excuse. What was your vote, Council
Member?

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» It was a no vote. No.
>> Okay. So, three to one. So,

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» no. I voted with the rest of you.
>> Oh, you vote I.

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» I voted I. I just
>> that's why I asked for clarification.

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I'm sorry. So
>> the vote was unanimous. So there will be

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no zone change. It'll remain A1.
>> Okay.

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» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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Uh the next item for business is item
number 10. Consider cooperative land

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realignment, road dedication and
property exchange agreement with Lance

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Shotwell
relating to parcels A-491-

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0491-00002

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and a-492-000014-0000.

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Okay. [clears throat] Is there any
presentation on this?

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» Yeah. So, we did have a conversation
about it. Gave a pretty good

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presentation last time just moving
forward to work. I mean to action, but

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I'm wondering if anybody had I I did
show the

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the diagram last time, did I not?
>> Yeah, you did.

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» Um and and and explained it. I just
wondering if the council has any um

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has any questions um on this before we
start down the path of all of the steps

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to do this. At the end, of course, the
council will have the option whether or

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not to trade the property. We've just
got to do a lot of work to massage it

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and abandon roads and and define new
roads and redraw property boundaries in

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order to make it happen. And we just
need to have an agreement as we start on

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that process. So,
You're not agreeing to trade the

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property yet. That's the last step.
>> Yeah.

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» I'll just say I talked to Dan about this
a couple of times because I was

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concerned and I support this. I I I
looked at all the different situations

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and all and the the reasoning and and
what would the city would gain and

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versus and what would be resolved. And
so I I support this exchange.

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Well, I'll move to approve the
cooperative land realignment road

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dedication and property exchange
agreement with Lance Shockwell relating

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to the parcels that were stated.
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It's been moved and seconded that we
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road dedication and proper exchange
agreement with Lance Shotwell relating

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to the parcels as stated. All those in
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» I
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» any opposed
it vote is unanimous. So,

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» Kelly, I'm going to send it back to you.
>> It is approved to consider this land

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exchange to proceed anyway.
Okay. Uh we will now go to the work

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agenda
which involves I guess we go right to

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reports.
So, I don't know. Council member Topham,

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do you want to start?
>> I would love to start. All right. I I

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attended a theater board meeting. They
talked about um all of the people who

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are booking the theater. It seems like
we've got a pretty good list of um

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events and things that are happening in
the theater with like a homeschool

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academy and Beacon Academy and such. Um
one thing that I do want to put out to

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the public is that we're having a really
hard time finding people that want to

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direct plays in Peruan. Um, and so as of
right now, we don't have another play

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that is scheduled for this year that's
put on by the community theater board.

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So if you are somebody who would like to
direct a play or anything, get with me,

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get with Jet Smith, get with Jennifer
Terry. Um, we'll get you on the

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uh theater agenda and we will talk about
it. There are a few for the following

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year, like for 2027 and even in 2028
that we're going to do, but there's

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nothing for the remainder of this year.
So, um, that's sad. So, I just want to

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shout that out there. So,
>> hopefully we can get some people.

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» So, that could change if they
>> It could change if somebody

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» just didn't realize that they could do
that. Maybe. Um, I know Shelley Porter

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has reached out to all of her contacts
and and such and she's coming up dry, so

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we need some good people who want to
direct some plays.

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» Okay.
>> Anything else?

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» Um, no.
>> Okay. Thank you, Council Member Barton.

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» Uh, yeah, just an update. We were able
to attend the UMS. Uh Ronnie rode up

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with me for a couple of days and Dan and
Jeremy were there and couple of

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takeaways. We are short short of power
and short of transmission lines moving

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forward into the next years and there's
a lot of good ideas to solve a lot of

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those problems. But it's going to take a
lot of work and it's going to be an

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uphill battle. But the thing I was
amazed about was how well received Dan

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and Jeremy are. They're very wellliked
and and respected

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through those channels. So, I think we
got a we got great people in there.

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» Were you more surprised that I was
wellliked or Jeremy?

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» Well, Jere I was Jeremy. I was like
everybody knows him, hugging on him and

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like respect. I mean, not that I was
surprised, but it was just

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» it was just neat to see. [clears throat]
>> There's a lot that Jeremy does on the

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various boards of the various projects
and he's a he's a chairman of of a of a

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UMP's board. That's really important. It
takes a lot of administrative stuff to

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be involved in Uamps and Jeremy carries
the lion share of it. He he really does.

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A lot of cities, they will pay a former
mayor or former city manager or somebody

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that was involved for years just to keep
current with everything going on with

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you Amps. And we're fortunate to have
Jeremy do that. He does a great I agree.

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I will say that we need to protect him
because everybody up there wants him

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back or wants to get him. So anyway,
>> I I can veto his retirement or his being

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poached. I I tell him that all the time.
Okay. Thank you.

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» Anything else?
>> That's it for me.

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» Council member Dean.
>> Uh planning and zoning was cancelled. So

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I had it pretty easy for the last two
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» That's it.
I don't have anything. I think Dan's

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going to cover what I, you know, as far
as the water. So,

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» yeah, I've got a few things. Um, first
thing I'm going to start with, um,

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hopefully good news. Uh, next Thursday,
um, we will be we're on the agenda for

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CIB to go up and ask and make our
presentation for um, hopefully grant

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funds for the library. Um, hopefully
they'll give us grant money. we may have

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to take a loan or a partial loan,
partial grant.

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They are they sent a letter out to a
bunch of cities and said, "Please

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reconsider even applying. We don't have
enough money to to loan grant out." Um,

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probably better for you to stay home.
And luckily, we didn't get one of those

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letters, but Marcus, our our you guys
met Marcus when we appointed our

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municipal adviser, he says he's never
seen an agenda this big with requests

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from CIB.
Um, and we are number 25 of 27 people

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that will go in front of that board to
ask for funding. So, we've been game

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planning that and getting ready. Uh,
Marcus feels good about it. Um,

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hopefully it it goes well. I will not be
in attendance. I could not believe that

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it when we got the agenda that it's the
exact same day of my knee surgery and

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I've been waiting for like eight months.
So, I can't reschedule. So, Molly's

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going and Molly is the secret weapon
when it comes to

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» She really is
>> getting getting people to commit stuff

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to the city.
>> It's true.

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» And Corey's going and um we we might
have Jerry there. Um if but they only

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give us two to three minutes. And I mean
I love Molly. This is not a diss on

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Molly. If you think Molly can keep it to
under three minutes when she talked

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about passionately about Perwin City and
the community center, I don't know.

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» Said no one ever.
>> So, um, and Marcus will be there, of

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course, to steer us. Right. So, that's
happening next week. Um, hopefully,

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fingers crossed that goes well.
[clears throat] Um, that was positive

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fun. Hopefully, the next one is the
bridge. I am just really extremely

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frustrated. um Inbridge the gas company
in case anybody doesn't know keep track

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of what they've changed their name to
this week. They have decided that they

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have to get update the um
um stream alteration permit even though

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there's a stream alteration permit to
cover the prog process that originally

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they were going to bore the new gas line
under the the road that it is just too

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many boulders and stuff which is smart.
I didn't know how they were going to

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ever bore it. I figured they were going
to get midbore and have to trench it.

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Well, they've now determined after doing
their potholeing and stuff that they are

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going to have to trench it.
Unfortunately, federal money, UD do

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process, they now have to modify the
stream alteration permit, which they

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probably won't get that done until
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» I'm just beyond frustrated. Um, we're
going to get a bridge, but I can't

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honestly say exactly when. So, what does
that do with like all of our funding and

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stuff that we've
>> funding is good. U DOT's already expand

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extended it. We luckily had a a large
buffer because our we got such good

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bids, but I'm guessing I mean I who
knows what'll happen if if we didn't

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have that buffer. I would really be
sweating bullets.

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We're going to get a bridge and I and
and and it should get done under what

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the funding that we have. It's just we
want this thing done yesterday and we're

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just sick of it being delayed. But
that's what we're looking at. Just found

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out that today. I knew that they were
questioning the stream alteration

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permit, but I just saw today that that
they are for sure going to have to

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reapply. And so and the state takes 30
days on an accelerated time frame to get

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that modified.
Um the diversion, uh we did have a a a

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scare with the diversion. Actually had
part of the project flood. um in recent

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floods and um
there was there was a little bit of

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friction afterwards trying to figure
things out between our engineer and the

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and the soils um engineer and the the uh
contractor and ourselves, but I think

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we're back on track. um that they had to
uh go down and remove a bunch of

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material and put material back on.
Specifically, the the bedding that this

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the the the filter material that that
keeps um any any dirt from getting into

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the the drain line because you the drain
line needs to take water out from under

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the structure, but we don't want any any
sort of dirt to go through because it'll

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eventually erode. So, they had to make
sure that the the fabric and there's a

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specific type of sand and everything
that filters all that out. They had to

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make sure that was okay. They had to
clean out the the lines and and and they

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had to take out a bunch of material that
had been installed just on the dirt burm

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or the dirt portion of the dam. So, um
they're back on track. That was going to

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probably delay them a little bit. Um and
but but but JP was just eager to get

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going. In fact, some of the frustration
was they wanted to immediately get

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building and we needed the engineers to
make sure we figured out and which we

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needed them to press pause and figure
out to do it right. We don't want to

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have a dam that's leaking or is is
somehow um

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um not built to the standard it's
supposed to be. So, um we're we're back

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on track there. Um, the last thing that
I have to share is that the reservoir

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company turned the Yankee out um, today,
which means we should get water

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tomorrow. Um, is 20 turns a full
turnout?

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» It's It's hitting the weird right now.
>> Just barely got a text just now that the

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weird is a five.
>> So, the water is has got here this

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evening.
>> So, I think that and obviously there's

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only a certain amount of water. It only
gained about 3 feet in elevation during

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the time it was off.
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» Um I I'm guessing the farmers are making
a big push to to get a last big cutting

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out of it. Aldo and I talked, do we go
back to a two-day a week watering

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because we'll probably maybe have the
water and I what I told Aldo is I said

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I'll prepare all the communications and
if we see that it actually starts

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overflowing and we're at that point we
may as well be using the water that

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point maybe we'll go back. from a red to
a yellow status. But probably my guess

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only for a few weeks, three weeks.
>> I think with the rains and whatever and

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just leave it the way it is for now. I
think it's going to be shortlived. And I

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really think as far as a the farmer
standpoint, we we're going to try to get

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across with one good watering and then
shut it off for the season would be my

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guess. Just just to hedge our bet for
another dry winter.

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» If if we don't and that's fine. We
cannot do that. People are going to

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complain that water's pouring over the
overflow and we're on one day a week,

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but that's the tricky thing. It's moving
fast back and forth and the confusion.

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We we don't want to move between the
numbers very often. But that's the

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that's the conundrum. So, for the time
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» well, that being said, I think you could
probably open it back up to two. I think

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you I think we'll be two weeks cuz we'll
have Robinson Reservoir and then we'll

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be able to call for Brian Head Pond
which is not much but it it adds some

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water.
>> Does it?

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» So I think we'll have good water for for
two weeks at least

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» if let's see it's the end of August. If
we get another we stretch it two two

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three weeks.
>> Yeah.

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» About when it gets shut
>> about when we shut it off anyways.

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» Yeah.
>> So so that's the last of my updates.

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» Okay. Thank you. How about Calie? Do you
have anything?

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» How about you, Scott?

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» Okay. Thank Thank you.
>> Is that your report?

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» Okay. Thank you. [clears throat]
>> Now we're on the record. Scott's being

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serious.
>> Okay. Um, do we have a close session?

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» We do. We need to go into close.
>> Oh, well. [clears throat] Okay. Well, I

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thought we were going to hit a record
here. So,

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» we we we couldn't hit a record without
Molly here.

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» Okay. Okay.
>> Throwing a monkey wrench.

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» Anyway. Okay. Uh, I'll entertain a
motion to go into close session.

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» Can I ask? need to discuss strategy
sessions to discuss pending or imminent

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litigation.
>> I'll make a motion to go into close

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session as Dan has stated.
>> I second it.

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» Okay, it's been moved and seconded that
we go into close session to discuss the

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items that Dan has listed. I guess roll
call vote.

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» Rochelle Top and I. David Burton I Bart
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» John D I
>> Okay, thank you for coming everyone. I'm

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sorry I didn't invite everyone and
welcome everybody at the beginning like

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Molly does, but we're glad you