[26:28] } [26:31] ok? [26:32] So, we should find out about [26:37] that by the end of August or [26:37] early September. [26:38] Once we [26:38] get all of that [26:39] information we May find we have [26:41] some additional income. [26:43] At which point the [26:48] dean [26:48] and [26:49] administrators will be working [26:49] with staff. [26:54] As you [26:58] know, we did mention that [26:58] every division will have an [26:59] administrative assistant and a [27:01] clerk. [27:02] We are proceeding with that. [27:06] Not every division has had their [27:07] full complement yet. [27:12] As I talked to all the deans and [27:13] so on and made it clear to them [27:13] that they don' [27:14] t have to worry [27:14] about [27:14] that. [27:18] So that in the fall [27:20] semester, [27:22] before the end of [27:23] the fall [27:24] semester those positions will be [27:24] filled. [27:24] All right? [27:29] >> we May have to reduce office [27:32] hours? >> he will [27:32] not let that [27:33] happen. [27:34] We will be working with you in [27:35] there are many ways to be happy [27:36] with that. [27:36] All right? [27:47] >> I was looking at the hiring [27:47] procedures. [27:51] It had one or two classified [27:53] positions on [27:54] it. [27:56] But there were no faculty. [27:57] Faculty heavily depends upon the [27:58] administrative [28:02] system [28:02] and the [28:03] clerk. [28:04] I wonder why there is no faculty [28:10] am a hiring committee. [28:10] >> all [28:11] that I can tell you is that he [28:12] will follow the administrative [28:13] procedures as they exist. [28:17] Hr has been working [28:21] with the [28:23] administrator in [28:23] charge to make [28:24] sure that all groups that work [28:26] with that classified person have [28:28] a [28:29] room -- representative on that [28:29] committee. [28:31] I' [28:33] m pretty sure that [28:33] hr will be [28:34] working with those groups to [28:36] make that a reality. [28:39] Yes? [28:47] >> [Inaudible] [28:53] >> each [28:55] area figured that out by [28:56] itself. [29:00] Each area. [29:05] One thing that all areas look [29:06] that was consistency. [29:09] Each division came up with its [29:09] own approach. [29:15] To reduce their workforce and [29:17] figure out [29:18] when they can bring [29:18] more college assistant act. [29:22] They had to study their [29:22] needs [29:23] first. [29:24] Yes? [29:27] >> [Inaudible] [29:34] >> we are recording this. [29:35] It makes it easier. [29:37] >> to follow up on [29:37] college [29:38] assistance, everyone who was [29:40] working as an assistant [29:42] basically has to [29:43] be processed [29:43] again? [29:47] Basically, it' [29:47] s a do over? [29:49] >> it is, it is. [29:53] In your case, jim and joe -- [29:57] jim, right? [29:57] They' [29:58] ve been briefed [30:01] by hr on the process in use [30:01] right now. [30:04] They' [30:05] ve looked at their whole [30:05] system. [30:06] They have look at how many they [30:07] have [30:08] and assessing their needs [30:10] in them they will work with the [30:11] faculty and staff. [30:17] >> if someone is hired this year [30:18] , will they have to go through [30:20] this process again in the [30:20] following year? [30:23] >> I don' [30:23] t know the answer to [30:23] that. [30:25] Anyone? [30:29] >> the answer to the question is [30:30] yes. [30:34] Every year we should be doing a [30:35] mass termination of temporary [30:37] employees and [30:38] rehiring them and [30:39] doing the paperwork again for [30:41] July first. [30:42] That' [30:42] s something that we should [30:43] be doing and it' [30:43] s why we are [30:43] starting [30:43] again. [30:48] >> one quick last [30:51] follow-up, is [30:51] there any allowance made for [30:52] when they have to go through [30:55] this process again? [30:56] Of getting the live scan with [30:57] all of those [30:58] expenses? [31:02] Some of them are not being paid [31:03] a lot of money to have to do [31:03] this every [31:03] year. [31:07] Or does that stay in effect? [31:11] >> that is part of statewide [31:11] regulation. [31:15] During that time of year many [31:15] things have happened. [31:18] The we are not aware [31:18] of. [31:18] That is a state requirement. [31:21] 7 [31:21] e [31:21] ok? [31:27] >> [Inaudible] [31:31] >> that is our understanding. [31:32] That is what we have been [31:32] informed. [31:36] >> just to clarify, if they have [31:38] already done the [31:39] process for the [31:40] last two years, you don' [31:40] t have [31:41] to go through every step again [31:43] area and [31:43] I have had a number of [31:46] employees who did it last year, [31:46] it' [31:47] s not an every year [31:47] occurrence. [31:51] If they meet it more definitely [31:53] under the regulations we [31:54] have, [31:54] I' [31:55] m not sure what the length of [31:56] time is. [31:57] >> there is a length of time. [32:01] >> I remembered doing last year. [32:03] This year they are [32:03] good. [32:04] They were fine. [32:08] >> that [32:08] would be a two-year [32:09] system in that case. [32:13] Like going to [32:13] eu or sexual [32:14] harassment training. [32:17] Once you beat that, you have to [32:19] do it at that [32:20] time. [32:20] it' [32:21] s the same thing with [32:21] testing. [32:22] Things happen. [32:22] It' [32:25] s for how [32:25] long, two years? [32:28] Three [32:28] years? Four years? [32:30] That' [32:30] s why. [32:36] Yes? [32:37] Elaine? [32:44] >> regarding the lower involved [32:47] -- enrollment [32:47] , at the state [32:52] level what about what might [32:52] be [32:53] happening or why they are [32:53] starting to see it? [32:58] >> each district is unique and [32:59] has its own. [33:09] >> we seem to be hearing and [33:09] seeing more evidence of it. [33:13] >> in the northern part of the [33:14] state, but not in the southern [33:14] part of the state. [33:15] Right. [33:26] >> the state chancellor' [33:27] s [33:29] office [33:30] is asking them to take a look at [33:30] it. [33:32] But we don' [33:33] t have the answer [33:33] yet. [33:44] Other questions? [33:48] This is your [33:50] opportunity to ask [33:51] anything. [33:56] Dean russell is right there to [33:56] provide you with the answers. [34:07] >> so, where do we [34:08] find the [34:09] consistent evaluation process? [34:14] >> could you please repeat the [34:14] question? [34:18] >> where do we find [34:18] the [34:19] evaluation process established [34:20] by hr? [34:27] >> which are we talking about? [34:29] >> he said that in dealing with [34:31] the hourly, they had to deal [34:32] with a specific [34:33] process. [34:36] >> each group, each division of [34:37] the [34:38] college sets up its own [34:43] system [34:45] of evaluating its college [34:47] assistance process and student [34:47] worker process. [34:52] That same group will also [34:53] determine who to [34:54] hire and who do [34:54] not hire. [34:58] When to be hiring people. [35:00] And when they will bring people [35:00] back. [35:14] >> [I [35:15] >> what division are you in? [35:16] >> student affairs. [35:20] >> in that case check with [35:22] student affairs [35:24] , they will let [35:24] you know. [35:25] They will let you know what [35:26] process they use. [35:44] >> [Inaudible] [35:47] Certain amount of money. [35:47] We can' [35:49] t just [35:49] say -- we want [35:51] everyone to come back. [35:51] We would be in the same [35:52] position. [35:57] >> not everyone is coming back. [35:57] The number of hours would be [35:58] greatly [35:58] reduced. [36:02] Should we be having college [36:04] assistance when the lab is not [36:04] open? [36:11] Two months with college [36:12] assistance in the lab. [36:21] Do we really need to have two or [36:22] three people in the lab? [36:29] >> each area. [36:32] >> it wasn' [36:34] t until the [36:34] last year [36:35] or couple years that we changed. [36:38] You talk about categorical [36:38] funds. [36:46] If we could find funding and [36:49] other budget, that would [36:50] save [36:50] the whole college assistance [36:51] funding part of it. [36:56] >> I do not know how it was [36:58] paid. [37:05] Replaced by a college assistant. [37:13] >> specific to athletics we have [37:15] two lines in the budget. [37:18] I forget what it' [37:18] s called. [37:19] The dollar line. [37:23] I forget which it is paid with. [37:27] For whatever reason we have [37:31] budgeted those college [37:32] assistance dollars. [37:35] What matters is that the money [37:36] is there. [37:46] It' [37:47] s just where it lies in the [37:48] budget. [37:52] It still paid in the stipend but [37:53] the dollar amount is in the [37:54] college assistance [37:54] line and next [37:55] year in the assistant line. [37:59] It is not necessarily where it [38:00] is in the budget. [38:05] >> this doesn' [38:06] t mean that it' [38:06] s [38:06] college assistance money. [38:17] >> not a lot of the coaches as [38:18] classified with stipends did [38:18] away with classified stipends. [38:20] Several years ago. [38:23] That' [38:24] s when it went to college [38:24] assistance. [38:29] >> they will be working with the [38:30] new dean and staff there. [38:40] There' [38:41] s a difference between the [38:41] coach and a college assistant. [38:50] Bearing in mind the line item [38:50] that you have. [38:56] The appropriate purpose. [39:01] That' [39:02] s of the moneys used for. [39:12] More questions? [39:19] Many things are happening at the [39:19] college. [39:24] CQy [39:25] student services. [39:29] Hr, fiscal, I.T. [39:33] Coach, anything you want to [39:40] share with us? [39:40] >> I don' [39:41] t know [39:41] if you mentioned this. [39:46] The total number that we hired [39:46] for this year? [39:49] >> total number of faculty, [39:49] staff? [39:53] >> and administrators. [39:55] >> full-time faculty for this [39:56] year will be 53 full-time [39:56] faculty. [40:03] I believe eight temporary [40:03] one-year assignments. [40:09] It seems we have five new [40:10] permanent teens. [40:20] Two directors and student [40:20] services. [40:27] One associate dean and student [40:27] services. [40:31] We eliminated one position. [40:42] They created a new position [40:43] that [40:46] went to Dr. Livio. [40:54] We have two new vice presidents. [40:57] One for hr, one for [40:58] instruction. [41:01] And of course these replacement [41:06] positions for the vice President [41:07] Of business and administrative [41:08] services. [41:11] When it comes to administrative [41:14] positions, we have not increased [41:16] the number of physicians at all, [41:18] because we have [41:19] eliminated [41:19] several positions and created [41:22] new ones and restructured the [41:22] organization in [41:25] such a manner [41:27] that we can do [41:28] with the same [41:31] number of physicians -- in fact [41:31] I think it' [41:31] s gone down by one [41:34] position when it comes to [41:35] higher-level administration. [41:38] We [41:38] have produced that my one [41:39] position. [41:40] That' [41:42] s about all I can -- and [41:44] then we also [41:46] have classified [41:48] staff. [41:48] I don' [41:50] t know the exact number, [41:50] but we will know that pretty [41:51] soon. [42:00] A meet and greet in the wake of [42:00] July 11. [42:04] Yes? [42:11] >> I have a question about the [42:13] website being [42:13] built. [42:16] Will it also have a section for [42:17] each division to advertise [42:20] certificates, degrees, or [42:20] special activities? [42:23] >> I' [42:23] m happy you asked that [42:26] question because the person who [42:27] can give you that answer and [42:28] will be flipping the switch [42:32] tonight at 5:30, the website [42:33] that you are using right now is [42:34] going to [42:35] be obsolete at 5:30 [42:36] tonight. [42:38] There will be a [42:40] brand-new site [42:42] that will be even prouder here [42:43] at [42:43] pasadena city college. [42:49] >> [42:49] yes, it will be department [42:51] and division homepages that will [42:53] show off the [42:54] certificates in [42:55] each program and give a chance [42:56] to find out what they are all [42:56] about. [43:01] I have seen them in the testbed. [43:01] They look really good. [43:05] We have had a lot of buy-in from [43:08] across campus [43:08] . [43:08] It' [43:08] s going to look really [43:09] awesome tonight. [43:11] >> who would be qualified to put [43:14] things on to the website? [43:17] Most of us are not trained for [43:18] that kind of thing. [43:21] >> we will be doing training [43:22] after lunch and starting next [43:25] week we will get some training [43:25] going. [43:26] People have already been working [43:27] with the team to provide [43:27] content. [43:30] Those of you who have been doing [43:33] that, you know who [43:33] you are. [43:34] We have a contact in each [43:35] division helping us to structure [43:36] the contacts. [43:40] There is a good chance there [43:42] someone in the business division [43:43] who will be working to organize [43:44] your [43:46] content and others who will [43:46] be there. [43:47] Either admin' [43:47] s, clerks, or [43:50] others. [43:50] >> do you know who? [43:54] >> not off the top of my [43:54] head, [43:55] but we know they exist. [43:56] [Laughter] [43:59] It might be through cte. [44:01] Lanelle might be helping with [44:02] that. [44:05] I don' [44:05] t have it at my [44:06] fingertips, though. [44:07] and we will be happy to train [44:09] anyone [44:10] who wants to know how to [44:11] use the site. [44:13] There' [44:13] s a system that' [44:14] s much [44:14] easier than what we had. [44:16] We will have information about [44:17] that. [44:19] >> are we going on facebook? [44:22] >> we are on facebook. [44:24] We have a [44:24] facebook presence. [44:25] >> nice to hear. [44:27] [Laughter] [44:33] >> [Inaudible] [44:37] >> yes. [44:39] I believe the question was about [44:40] shared governance changes? [44:43] If I understand correctly [44:43] , [44:44] that' [44:44] s coming up today. [44:48] And after will help to structure [44:49] committee assignments and [44:50] meetings. [44:50] My understanding is that yes, [44:51] that' [44:51] s coming live with the new [44:52] system. [44:52] Yes. [44:58] >> thank you very much. [44:58] There will be a lot of apps [45:01] created with so many interesting [45:04] programs in computer science and [45:06] computer engineering. [45:08] There will be many apps created, [45:08] right? [45:10] Every day, new apps. [45:13] All right. [45:14] Anything else? [45:19] A reminder? [45:21] Nothing from student services? [45:23] All quiet? [45:24] All right. [45:28] The pinehurst area? [45:29] No? [45:30] Yes? [45:35] ` [45:36] .{9j [45:37] >> July 11? [45:41] >> spring awakening. [45:44] Last three weekends. [45:45] >> why do we have that in [45:46] summer? [45:46] [Laughter] [45:50] We couldn' [45:51] t have summer [45:51] awakening or something? [45:59] >> now we have to change all the [45:59] lyrics. [46:00] >> all right. [46:05] >> let' [46:05] s change all the lyrics [46:06] now to summer awakening. [46:09] >> all right, I think you very [46:11] much for joining us today. [46:12] Enjoy [46:13] summer. [46:15] We will see you in August, right [46:15] before school starts. [46:20] Before you go, you know that we [46:25] will all be going [46:26] with eight [46:26] representatives of our district [46:27] who will be going to [46:28] oakland for [46:30] the official launch of the [46:34] college promise [46:36] on August 30. [46:38] Bcc will be represented [46:40] I the [46:41] President Of the board, Miss [46:42] Linda [46:43] wah. [46:47] Myself, bobby abram from the [46:50] foundation, the President Of the [46:54] foundation board [46:55] , the director [46:59] of financial aid [47:00] , the vice [47:09] President [47:10] , and we will make sure [47:12] that when we come back [47:13] there [47:13] will be a lot to write about. [47:14] Right? [47:17] On our facebook page, right? [47:20] Ok, thank you very much. [47:21] have a wonderful summer and i