1 00:00:21,900 --> 00:00:22,720 Local call, please. 2 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,820 Present. Here. Here. 3 00:00:47,040 --> 00:01:04,340 Here. Okay, thank you. Now we will move to the resolutions. Item number one is approval of Resolution 2782, the revocation of Resolution 2411, which was the state-funded travel restrictions. 4 00:01:07,780 --> 00:01:15,020 Why? One, two, three, four. So let's roll through that. Can I go to the next one? 5 00:01:15,020 --> 00:01:21,050 All right, so I'm going to go to the next one, okay? 6 00:01:21,610 --> 00:01:28,750 All right, approval of Resolution 2777, which is supporting Proposition 2, kindergarten through grade 12. 7 00:01:29,310 --> 00:01:37,110 Schools and local community college, public education facilities, modernization repair, and safety bond act of 2024. 8 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,820 Do I have a motion for this? 9 00:01:41,820 --> 00:01:46,260 This is a little approval, it's a minute, second. 10 00:01:47,820 --> 00:01:52,240 This is prop 2, prop 2 approval, we're on right now. 11 00:01:56,740 --> 00:01:57,520 So we're voting. 12 00:02:00,630 --> 00:02:04,790 We have a motion, do we need discussion on prop 2? 13 00:02:06,030 --> 00:02:09,970 Oh, we have a comment, public comment on this, so let's hear that. 14 00:02:10,490 --> 00:02:11,310 Renegance, all is? 15 00:02:18,020 --> 00:02:18,380 There we go. 16 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:19,960 Good evening, everyone. 17 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,660 I would like 18 00:02:24,990 --> 00:02:31,310 to voice my support for Proposition II and the resolution, the submission of the resolution. 19 00:02:32,030 --> 00:02:35,590 I'd like to congratulate this new Board of Education for 20 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:50,030 hearing the community and moving towards a better accountability with the people that run the school bonds in particular to safe work that was removed as a vendor last year. 21 00:02:50,030 --> 00:02:55,770 And I want to encourage this new board and this administration to continue to work 22 00:02:55,770 --> 00:03:01,850 there's better public accountability and create a citizen's oversight and reform 23 00:03:01,850 --> 00:03:09,110 committee that can see faults and create checks and balances for a better physical future 24 00:03:09,390 --> 00:03:13,550 and to get better accountability for taxpayer money. 25 00:03:14,330 --> 00:03:23,810 I want to also encourage this board to move, start moving towards electrification items 26 00:03:23,810 --> 00:03:29,510 and procedures because we're not in any waiting list as far as electrification. 27 00:03:30,410 --> 00:03:35,770 As you saw, LAU has unified school district is already moving towards changing its entire 28 00:03:35,770 --> 00:03:37,670 fleet to electric buses. 29 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:43,190 is we're not on anybody's list and we continue to repair all vehicles. 30 00:03:43,630 --> 00:03:47,390 There's one on the agenda, $3,000 for a transmission on an old truck. 31 00:03:47,950 --> 00:03:50,610 It's not worth it, it's not worth tax payer money. 32 00:03:51,250 --> 00:03:56,890 So please start taking the steps to move towards electrification of the entire district. 33 00:03:57,490 --> 00:04:03,630 And get all the incentives that are out there because we're not like I said on any waiting list for that. 34 00:04:04,210 --> 00:04:04,410 Thank you. 35 00:04:04,410 --> 00:04:05,090 Are 36 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,460 there any more comments? 37 00:04:17,460 --> 00:04:17,600 All right. 38 00:04:21,650 --> 00:04:21,830 All right. 39 00:04:22,030 --> 00:04:23,410 So for 2777. 40 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:24,330 So I'm sorry. 41 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:25,170 Was there a motion? 42 00:04:25,550 --> 00:04:25,670 Yes. 43 00:04:26,110 --> 00:04:26,450 Okay. 44 00:04:27,190 --> 00:04:27,950 Yes, Tina? 45 00:04:28,190 --> 00:04:36,230 It's to address electrification that the community actually got us to add more 46 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:40,210 greening language and sustainability language into the bond. 47 00:04:40,570 --> 00:04:45,310 So hopefully we can follow through with that when it passes. 48 00:04:45,310 --> 00:04:46,630 if when it passes. 49 00:04:53,330 --> 00:05:04,550 I just want to say that hopefully that voters will support Prop 2 because it'll allow us the opportunity to receive some state dollars that will help us to extend an augment. 50 00:05:06,430 --> 00:05:12,890 Matching funds for existing projects here in the district and they'll be able to make sure that the dollars that we have allocated will be able to go further. 51 00:05:13,390 --> 00:05:16,790 So this is a good thing and let's go Prop 2. 52 00:05:16,790 --> 00:05:17,450 All 53 00:05:21,450 --> 00:05:23,910 right, if we're ready then we can vote on favor, 54 00:05:27,250 --> 00:05:27,870 6-0, 55 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,280 all right, we'll go back to B-1. 56 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:43,620 Keep forgetting I can't move that until I've heard it off. 57 00:05:44,140 --> 00:05:51,320 So this is an amendment to a resolution 24-11, which the previous board passed a few years 58 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:58,580 ago, in response to a state initiative to discourage California public employees from traveling 59 00:05:58,580 --> 00:06:06,760 to certain states, there was at the time a bunch of states that were passing fairly outright 60 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:14,200 anti-LGBTQA laws and the governor proposed this framework whereby the Attorney General 61 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:19,640 will maintain a list of states that had done that and then California agencies would 62 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:27,020 reference that list and not travel to those states. We as board passed our resolution before 63 00:06:27,020 --> 00:06:48,640 or the Attorney General's website was up, since that time California sort of changed its tactics on how it wants to encourage other states to not pass these laws, they've revoked the statewide prohibition on travel to those states, and the Attorney General no longer maintains that website. 64 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:56,140 So, Resolution 24-11 as written didn't make any sense anymore because there was no list 65 00:06:56,140 --> 00:07:00,920 to reference for states that had passed those laws. 66 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,980 So we talked about this a few times at policy. 67 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:14,240 I volunteered to write a version of 24-11 that would keep, I thought, the spirit of the resolution 68 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,660 as we as board intended it when we passed it the first time around. 69 00:07:17,660 --> 00:07:24,360 While also making it something that would be something that district staff could actually support. 70 00:07:24,820 --> 00:07:34,380 So here before us is that amended language replacing 24-11 with resolution 24-82, and I welcome comments. 71 00:07:42,050 --> 00:07:42,810 We can make a motion. 72 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:45,880 You're moving. 73 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:46,520 Yes? 74 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,540 I will move approval, yeah, sorry. 75 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:51,280 I will second. 76 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,960 And then no public comment on this one, is that correct? 77 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,420 So thank 78 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:02,210 you for this resolution. 79 00:08:02,590 --> 00:08:08,890 I actually wanted to strengthen it to affirm our commitment to LGBTQ students in the community. 80 00:08:10,270 --> 00:08:16,410 And this actually is in line with the board policy 4131, which is reference in the resolution. 81 00:08:17,870 --> 00:08:23,890 And I had the hard copies printed for all the board members, so like see a red line version. 82 00:08:26,970 --> 00:08:46,950 which includes the, it says it remains a policy of the governing board to promote fairness and equality and to combat discrimination, the district staff development program assists all staff and developing knowledge and skills to include sensitivity to and ability to meet the needs of diverse student populations. 83 00:08:47,630 --> 00:09:16,930 including but not limited to, and this is the part I'm adding, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning LGBTQ plus students, and it continues with the original language which is students of various racial and ethnic groups, students with disabilities, English learners, economically disadvantaged students, foster youth, gifted and talented students, homeless and at-risk students, board policy 4133. 84 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,020 I'll accept that as a friendly amendment. 85 00:09:24,490 --> 00:09:30,250 And then later on in the agenda, we have the board policy that will change as well to 86 00:09:30,250 --> 00:09:31,450 reference the new resolution. 87 00:09:33,130 --> 00:09:35,790 I don't know if it has the number in it or not. 88 00:09:36,830 --> 00:09:41,290 It is on the agenda and we might just have to put in, well maybe we don't have to put any 89 00:09:41,290 --> 00:09:43,030 resolution number in, that could be. 90 00:09:43,770 --> 00:09:46,630 We just remove the language referencing the old resolution. 91 00:09:46,910 --> 00:09:47,230 So that's probably. 92 00:09:47,550 --> 00:09:47,690 Okay. 93 00:09:48,550 --> 00:09:48,750 All right. 94 00:09:48,750 --> 00:09:49,870 All right, are there other comments? 95 00:09:51,510 --> 00:09:56,530 Just a point of information is since he accepted the amendment, 96 00:09:56,890 --> 00:09:58,510 does the seconder also need to? 97 00:10:00,270 --> 00:10:00,590 Okay. 98 00:10:01,630 --> 00:10:03,430 All right, then all in favor? 99 00:10:06,330 --> 00:10:07,750 And this is item B1, 100 00:10:10,290 --> 00:10:10,490 all right? 101 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:11,470 Any opposed? 102 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:17,720 All right, six, and then we'll call you in a presentation or you want to? 103 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,620 Okay, 70. 104 00:10:23,900 --> 00:10:24,300 All right. 105 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:30,520 Next on our agenda is Resolution 2783 National Hispanic Heritage Month. 106 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,920 I believe Mr. Dorado is going to kick us off. 107 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:36,000 Thank you. 108 00:10:36,460 --> 00:10:41,520 I would like to recognize those who come in support of the resolution and Mr. Dorado's 109 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,100 representation. 110 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,220 We obviously know our partners from the city, but in this capacity, I'd like to introduce 111 00:10:48,220 --> 00:10:52,760 our co-chairs for the Pasadena Latino Heritage Committee, Lisa Barrios and Vania de la 112 00:10:53,340 --> 00:10:57,260 and then also Dr. Lisa Pettis, principal of Madison Elementary. 113 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,580 So, for our speaker, Mr. Martino Rotto is a fifth grade teacher at Madison 114 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:07,560 who we have been proud to acknowledge in multiple different ways in his teaching 115 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:12,920 attitude, but he is also serving as one of the grand marshals for the 116 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,200 testing Latino heritage parade this year. So, take it away, Mr. Dorao. 117 00:11:16,860 --> 00:11:17,380 Thank you. 118 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,580 Yeah, just thankful for my school, Madison Elementary without Madison. 119 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,180 I would not be the grand marshal, so go Eagles go. 120 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,180 So first of all, this is an honor just to speak on behalf of Madison. 121 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,120 Thank you for this opportunity for our school. 122 00:11:37,180 --> 00:11:41,580 In our resolution, the word that was most prominent to me was the word family. 123 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:49,260 Because you see in my opinion, one of the primary things culture does is connect us with our families. 124 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Me culture is the language that we speak with our families. 125 00:11:55,180 --> 00:12:01,560 And it essentially encompasses everything that language and dialect we actually speak 126 00:12:02,900 --> 00:12:06,180 from everything from the food that we eat to the language that we speak. 127 00:12:06,180 --> 00:12:11,500 And so I wanted to share a brief anecdote on the importance of honoring culture in the classroom. 128 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,480 Currently, I'm a bilingual master's program at Cal State LA. 129 00:12:18,780 --> 00:12:25,160 And last fall, I had to devise a lesson in which I was to prove my class to my class the 130 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:30,540 significance behind honoring culture in the classroom. And so thankfully, it was spooky season, 131 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,860 my favorite time of the year. And I thought of our Latino cultural folklore stories. 132 00:12:36,180 --> 00:12:42,540 and when and how I first heard them and so what we did was we compared common folklore stories 133 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:49,480 with Latino folklore stories not to tell which is better because there is no answer to that there 134 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:59,390 is no culture that's superior to another but what we did was we compared El Cucui with the booge men 135 00:13:00,810 --> 00:13:06,090 and what we found was that these two types of folklore stories they have plenty of similarities 136 00:13:06,090 --> 00:13:15,630 But the fundamental reason why they were not equivalent was because their families were the ones that shared these cultural narratives with them. 137 00:13:16,910 --> 00:13:22,990 Going to the grocery store with mom, spending time with grandpa, talking to dad about spooky things when he got back from work. 138 00:13:23,950 --> 00:13:33,690 Failing to honor these cultural narratives and attempting to replace them with equivalencies would be like disrupting these memories and connections our students form with their families. 139 00:13:34,370 --> 00:13:40,030 and so as a public educator it is crucial that we respect the cultures our 140 00:13:40,030 --> 00:13:47,860 students bring to the classroom and ask what we can learn from them and if we 141 00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:53,380 take into account for a quick second what culture encompasses we see that an 142 00:13:53,380 --> 00:13:59,060 integral part of it is language as well and so honoring our students' languages is 143 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:03,840 just as important as honoring their cultures and so this resolution brings me 144 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:13,220 great joy, not only as a proud Latino, Chicano, Mexican, but most importantly as a human, 145 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,840 because it is a humanizing practice to honor everyone's culture. 146 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:22,720 By honoring our students 147 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,560 cultures, we will be honoring our students' connections to their families and thereby their 148 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,280 own individual identities. Thank you. 149 00:14:50,210 --> 00:14:54,930 Thank you very much to our distinguished guests. Thank you for all the work that you 150 00:14:54,930 --> 00:14:59,930 and community that thank you to the school board. 151 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:08,700 Board at Pasadena Unified, not only for creating and supporting this resolution, but for attaching 152 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:17,300 curriculum for schools that support instruction in all of our school sites. 153 00:15:18,940 --> 00:15:25,740 I want to talk a little bit about the term Hispanic that, while commonly used, is deeply rooted 154 00:15:25,740 --> 00:15:28,220 in a colonial history of Latin America. 155 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:31,660 It emphasizes the Spanish colonial influence, 156 00:15:31,980 --> 00:15:36,180 often at the expense of erasing rich and diverse indigenous 157 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,640 and after descendent cultures that have existed 158 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,680 long before colonization and continue to thrive today. 159 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,680 The continued use of Hispanic without proper recognition 160 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,820 of these groups can perpetuate marginalization 161 00:15:50,820 --> 00:15:53,680 of indigenous and afro Latino communities 162 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,420 whose stories and contributions are integral 163 00:15:56,670 --> 00:15:59,500 to the fabric of Latin American identity. 164 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,020 And in many cases, the original cultural authors 165 00:16:04,020 --> 00:16:09,120 of many of the artifacts and sounds and movements 166 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,380 of resistance that we use to celebrate are joint 167 00:16:13,380 --> 00:16:15,380 and communal experiences. 168 00:16:17,390 --> 00:16:20,480 So it is vital to include a specific acknowledgement 169 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,080 of the indigenous communities that have contributed 170 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:26,960 to the richness of Latin American countries and culture. 171 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,520 And some of these include the Nagua, the Mayo, 172 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,220 the Tetsal, the Mistecco, the Sapoteco, the Otomi, 173 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,560 the Quechoa, Aymara, Guarani, Mapuche, 174 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,680 Kiccha, Tosol, Chol, Masateco, Tuttanaka, 175 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Misquito, Una, Tainos, and in addition, 176 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:57,000 We must also recognize all of the Afro-descendant groups, including the Garifuna groups in Honduras, Guatemala, 177 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:07,720 Nicaragua, Belize, as well as all of the Afro-descendant communities throughout Central America, 178 00:17:08,380 --> 00:17:18,420 the Caribbean, Mexico, specifically in Guadrata. All of those who are deeply represented in our schools, 179 00:17:18,420 --> 00:17:24,300 and you can see it in the composition of our students undeniably. 180 00:17:24,660 --> 00:17:34,880 So, in fact, there are many of these groups that are under recognized as part of our Pasadena communities, 181 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:40,240 and over represented in comparison to their populations in neighboring cities. 182 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:49,350 So by explicitly naming and honoring these communities, we can move closer to a true 183 00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:55,070 decolonization of our cultural celebrations, ensuring that all voices that encompass the 184 00:17:55,070 --> 00:17:59,370 Latin American diaspora are acknowledged and celebrated. 185 00:18:00,110 --> 00:18:00,550 Thank you. 186 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:13,890 I just want to make sure we recognize a very esteemed person in the room, Roberta Martinez. 187 00:18:13,890 --> 00:18:19,910 is yeah you can come up and I'm just going to introduce her this was sort of 188 00:18:19,910 --> 00:18:28,850 last minute but I reached out to her today because my daughter was volunteering 189 00:18:28,850 --> 00:18:35,170 at the library and during the summer and they tasked her with identifying 20 local 190 00:18:35,170 --> 00:18:45,850 Latina here, Latino heroes, and they gave my daughter a book to identify 20 people so 191 00:18:45,850 --> 00:18:47,630 they could create posters out of them. 192 00:18:48,530 --> 00:18:52,370 And so I asked my daughter, what book is this? 193 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:54,050 And it was Roberta's book. 194 00:18:54,790 --> 00:18:57,970 And she wrote Latinos in Pasadena, so it's very local. 195 00:18:58,650 --> 00:19:04,470 And I just found out today that she and a handful of community members were the founders 196 00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:08,490 of the Latino Heritage Parade in Pasadena. 197 00:19:08,790 --> 00:19:14,110 So I do want to say, the little biography about Roberta Martinez is an actor, 198 00:19:14,270 --> 00:19:17,890 director, writer, and historian born and raised in East LA. 199 00:19:18,670 --> 00:19:22,430 She served as executive director of Latino Heritage, chair of the Arts Commission, 200 00:19:23,150 --> 00:19:25,270 and the Library Commission for the City of Pasadena. 201 00:19:25,730 --> 00:19:30,290 She served on the Boards of Army Center of the Arts, Pasadena Community Access Corporation, 202 00:19:30,570 --> 00:19:31,790 and Pasadena Senior Center. 203 00:19:31,790 --> 00:19:38,250 here, as well as she's been involved in the school district, PST 7 11 committee, school 204 00:19:38,250 --> 00:19:43,970 size and configuration study, superintendent search committee, and PST redistricting task 205 00:19:43,970 --> 00:19:44,310 force. 206 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:51,550 And I don't have the language that you added to our resolution, but basically is a paragraph 207 00:19:53,350 --> 00:20:01,410 highlighting four local heroes, and maybe you can read that, but I also wanted to add Roberta 208 00:20:01,410 --> 00:20:10,170 Martina is into that list because without your book we would not have known about these heroes so thank you. Thank you for coming and 209 00:20:14,010 --> 00:20:19,510 I think it's here actually it's second to the last where as I think that paragraph. 210 00:20:21,090 --> 00:20:21,950 Okay, sure. 211 00:20:29,210 --> 00:20:38,690 Okay. So this all happened between about 10.30 this morning and now and it's been interesting. 212 00:20:40,350 --> 00:20:47,490 Okay, so one thing I want to do before I read this is to acknowledge a couple of things. 213 00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:52,330 Number one, it was my idea when I saw the Irish parade because I love things Irish. 214 00:20:52,910 --> 00:20:56,630 And I thought, my goodness, we have as many folk here who are Latino. 215 00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:59,190 We have all of these other parades, why not this? 216 00:21:00,010 --> 00:21:05,610 Luckily, I was working volunteering at the Latino Cultural Academy, Sandy Romero, 217 00:21:05,610 --> 00:21:15,130 knew the field rep for Councilmember Bill Crowfoot, who is now our mayor, Victor Gordel. 218 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:18,830 And so we met in the office. 219 00:21:19,230 --> 00:21:22,650 He took the message back, and that was where that began. 220 00:21:23,610 --> 00:21:27,350 For the first 15 years, it was totally volunteer. 221 00:21:28,330 --> 00:21:34,550 On occasion we get monies from Northwest funds, and we would pay people who lived in the 222 00:21:34,550 --> 00:21:43,810 Northwest to do various and or sundry things. It was something that as time grew on, it was 223 00:21:43,810 --> 00:21:50,990 exciting to do it for 15 years. It was also tiring to do it for 15 years. And I was 224 00:21:50,990 --> 00:21:58,450 very happy that council members Steve Madison and city manager Steve Mermell were open to 225 00:21:58,450 --> 00:22:05,470 the idea of a conversation where I said, hey, what about if the city took it over and 226 00:22:05,470 --> 00:22:05,890 they did? 227 00:22:06,590 --> 00:22:12,290 And it's been a joy to see how it's grown and to see who the co-chairs are now and 228 00:22:12,290 --> 00:22:15,150 all of the wonderful things that they're doing this year. 229 00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:17,030 So there you go. 230 00:22:17,290 --> 00:22:18,650 And it's always about allies. 231 00:22:19,630 --> 00:22:20,910 I mean, that's the key. 232 00:22:21,050 --> 00:22:25,850 That's kind of what I'm hearing in what you've been doing in the six and a half minutes 233 00:22:25,850 --> 00:22:27,090 I was sitting back there. 234 00:22:27,090 --> 00:22:33,970 but it's all about the ally building and seeing the value, the shared values in 235 00:22:33,970 --> 00:22:41,750 experience, in culture and in just being who one is that that's how change 236 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:46,790 gets made. I'm wearing the wrong glasses but here we go. The last paragraph you 237 00:22:46,790 --> 00:22:47,050 wanted? 238 00:22:49,140 --> 00:22:54,880 Okay. Whereas the Pasadena Unified School District Community is home to 239 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,340 highly accomplished Hispanic. 240 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,140 Latino leaders, including Chicana Roberta H. Martinez, 241 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,540 writer, historian, and founder, Latino Heritage Parade, 242 00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:09,340 many Perez, the first Mexican-American 243 00:23:09,340 --> 00:23:12,140 P.U.S.D. teacher, Puerto Rican, 244 00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:16,800 Yvette Lightfoot, who co-founded P.U.S.D.'s 245 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,680 Elementary Foreign Language Program, 246 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,540 which also became the key for foreign language 247 00:23:23,540 --> 00:23:25,520 which being taught via television. 248 00:23:25,820 --> 00:23:27,560 It started here in P.U.S.D. 249 00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:32,260 and Ilias Galvan and Ms. Lightfoot, I never met her, 250 00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:36,520 were the people who actually started it. 251 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,180 Filimon Gutiérrez, the first Chicano P.U.S.D. board trustee, 252 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,780 who was nominated by Elbe Hiccombatum 253 00:23:46,060 --> 00:23:49,880 and seconded by Marge Wyatt to be on the board. 254 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:58,280 and Ramon C. Cortinas, who was the district's first Latino superintendent and had ten years total 255 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:03,340 as superintendent during some very trying times here at PUSD. 256 00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:09,700 Those are the paragraph and what this actually began with was I was telling Tina, 257 00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:14,740 I want to give a copy of my book to each of the high schools. 258 00:24:14,740 --> 00:24:23,100 so I have five copies here for our five high schools, so I don't know who I should give this to, 259 00:24:27,540 --> 00:24:29,120 and thank you very much. 260 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:46,420 I look forward to seeing and hearing what you're going to be able to have come out of these books, including, I hope, the recognition of Hunipero-Sederah School and Chihuah-Witha Schools, which were two of the established schools as segregated Mexican schools. 261 00:24:46,420 --> 00:24:53,220 that was part of what was happening during the Southwest and also recognition of the deportations 262 00:24:53,220 --> 00:25:02,580 that took place in the late 1920s and the early 30s continuing when nearly a million Mexican 263 00:25:02,580 --> 00:25:11,900 Americans and American citizens were deported. The American citizens were 60% of those who were 264 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:12,280 were deported? 265 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:28,420 Well, if I may add, it seems fitting that it was the Irish that inspired you because 266 00:25:28,420 --> 00:25:34,740 the struggle for the liberation of the Irish worked in partnership with the liberation 267 00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:46,680 of many other countries and movements throughout Latin America, including Puerto Rico and the 268 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,060 out. 269 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:57,500 Did the co-chairs want to give us a brief update or information about the upcoming event? 270 00:26:00,410 --> 00:26:05,850 Good afternoon. P-U-S-D school board and staff. My name is Lisa Barrios Isa Guiree 271 00:26:05,850 --> 00:26:10,750 and I am a proud alum of Marshall Fundamental, joined by Vania de la Cua, 272 00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:18,830 proud alum of Blair High School. Today we join you as co-chairs of the 2024 Pasadena Latino Heritage 273 00:26:18,830 --> 00:26:24,530 Parade and Festival. It is a pleasure to be here this evening to invite you and the entire 274 00:26:24,530 --> 00:26:32,370 PUSD community. Those are there here to the 26th annual Latino Heritage Parade and Festival 275 00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:38,250 that will be held on Saturday, October 5th, starting at 10 a.m., the route will actually 276 00:26:38,250 --> 00:26:44,290 start at Madison Elementary along Los Robles and conclude at City Hall. This year's theme 277 00:26:44,290 --> 00:26:47,630 Somos, pasadena, seguimos, lo reciendo. 278 00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:49,250 We are passadena. 279 00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:50,250 We keep flourishing. 280 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:56,550 Ames to highlight the growing Latino community's contributions to the city and country. 281 00:26:57,190 --> 00:27:03,290 We brought fires in English and Spanish that list the free and fun cultural celebrations 282 00:27:03,290 --> 00:27:04,390 for you all to join us. 283 00:27:04,450 --> 00:27:05,430 That will be held during the month. 284 00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:09,870 And again, just want to thank you for the opportunity and also we cannot be here without 285 00:27:09,870 --> 00:27:11,350 those that came before us. 286 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:14,910 So, thank you for the opportunity and we look forward to your participation. 287 00:27:15,550 --> 00:27:15,670 Yes. 288 00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:22,010 I think my colleague said it all, but thank you all for having us here today, and we really 289 00:27:22,010 --> 00:27:23,730 do look forward to seeing you all in the parade. 290 00:27:24,410 --> 00:27:30,930 Each of you, some fans that get a little bit hot out there, but really want to also recognize 291 00:27:30,930 --> 00:27:36,090 Mr. Louralo and his words because I think it's what he's talking about in terms of our culture, 292 00:27:36,090 --> 00:27:42,750 celebrating all culture, honoring all culture, and being present for it is one of the biggest 293 00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:43,610 parts of our parade. 294 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:46,290 That's what we want our community to see, we want our kids to see. 295 00:27:47,210 --> 00:27:52,570 And we are thrilled that we're going to have Ms. Lilerado writing with astronaut Jose, 296 00:27:54,370 --> 00:27:59,150 and on this, sorry, and we're hoping to have Jose and on this come to Madison Elementary 297 00:27:59,150 --> 00:27:59,610 on Friday. 298 00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:05,590 So the kids can see themselves going up the space with an astronaut, it'll be great. 299 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:11,290 but thank you all again for the support. It means the world to us and as proud of Lums, 300 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:21,920 thank you again. And yes, by the way, let me know. All right, thank you. 301 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,680 Did we have a motion 302 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,900 in motion to approve. 303 00:28:34,570 --> 00:28:34,910 Second. 304 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:46,720 There's one public comment. René Gonzales. 305 00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:17,150 Good evening again. I also brought some Mexican candy to share with you guys. You're welcome 306 00:29:17,150 --> 00:29:19,750 to take one. And so I'm going to hand it. 307 00:29:23,180 --> 00:29:27,580 And I'm wearing a hand made hat from the central 308 00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:35,660 West Coast of Mexico, Michoacán, and Guerrero called Tierra Caliente, that's where my 309 00:29:35,660 --> 00:29:43,280 mother was born, so this is from that region, and so I want to say that as we celebrate, 310 00:29:43,460 --> 00:29:52,500 we begin to celebrate National Hispanic Heritage Month, I want to thank this board for the 311 00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:59,280 a continuous investment on or Hispanic culture and art, and encourage the implementation 312 00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,980 and then you will see the last one, the last one, the last one, the last one, the last one, 313 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,940 A full mariachi program, as well as the continuance of a folkloric dance program in the secondary and on the high school level, because the students and families' time invested on elementary or folkloric dance should be valued in the continued investment on secondary academic should be implemented, otherwise it would not be fair for those children. 314 00:30:29,940 --> 00:30:37,700 and families, as well as, you know, like it's been mentioned many times, the Latino or 315 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:42,460 Hispanic arts and culture implementation and the curriculum encourage children to 316 00:30:42,460 --> 00:30:44,720 feel more proud about their culture and arts. 317 00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:51,920 So with that in mind, I look forward to a great amount of celebrations and thank you very 318 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,600 much for, you know, the continuous support for our culture. 319 00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:57,560 Thank you so much. 320 00:31:00,130 --> 00:31:00,870 Thank you. 321 00:31:00,870 --> 00:31:01,070 Can 322 00:31:03,410 --> 00:31:05,250 we vote and then have a picture? 323 00:31:05,930 --> 00:31:07,130 All right, all in favor? 324 00:31:10,180 --> 00:31:11,400 Pass the 7-0. 325 00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:13,480 All right, picture time. 326 00:32:45,340 --> 00:32:48,700 All right, is there any public comment for closed session? 327 00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:54,050 If there isn't, then we will recess the closed session. 328 00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:55,310 Thank you, everyone. 329 00:35:40,590 --> 00:35:43,330 To do the public announcement of closed session actions 330 00:35:43,330 --> 00:35:50,250 taken tonight, concerning item D1, case number 909-959 331 00:35:50,970 --> 00:35:53,330 by a vote of 7-0, the board took action 332 00:35:53,330 --> 00:35:58,570 to approve the settlement of special education litigation in accordance with the terms of a written agreement. 333 00:35:59,610 --> 00:36:12,750 Concerned item D2, case number 2023-110-330, by a vote of 7-0, the board took action to approve of the settlement of special education litigation in accordance with the terms of a written agreement. 334 00:36:13,690 --> 00:36:27,370 Concerning item D3, case number 2024, 020, 944, by a vote of 7-0, the board took action to approve the settlement of special education litigation in accordance with the terms of a written agreement. 335 00:36:28,010 --> 00:36:40,770 Concerning item D4, case number 2024, 040409, by a vote of 7-0, the board took action to approve the settlement of special education litigation in accordance with the terms of a written agreement. 336 00:36:41,770 --> 00:36:50,410 Concerning Item D5, Case Number 2024, 040476, by a vote of 7-0, the board took action to approve 337 00:36:50,410 --> 00:36:55,230 the settlement of special education litigation in accordance with the terms of a written agreement. 338 00:36:56,010 --> 00:37:04,730 Concerning Item D6, Case Number 2024, 041-148, by a vote of 7-0, the board took action to approve 339 00:37:04,730 --> 00:37:09,270 the settlement of special education litigation in accordance with the terms of a written agreement. 340 00:37:10,210 --> 00:37:19,350 Concerning item D7, case number 2024-070-053, by a vote of 7-0, the board took action to approve 341 00:37:19,350 --> 00:37:23,430 of the settlement of special education litigation in accordance with the terms of a written 342 00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:23,810 agreement. 343 00:37:24,810 --> 00:37:33,330 Concerning item D8, case number 2024-070-934, by a vote of 7-0, the board took action to approve 344 00:37:33,330 --> 00:37:37,630 of the settlement of special education litigation in accordance with the terms of a written 345 00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:40,770 agreement, and we'll adjourn close session. 346 00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:47,090 And then I will call us to order, roll call, 347 00:37:50,980 --> 00:37:53,300 here, here, 348 00:37:56,140 --> 00:38:03,680 here, presente, here, here, 349 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:08,560 here, 350 00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:16,200 here, here, all right, next is the Pledge of Allegiance, and we'll have our student board 351 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,760 member Leslie Chi, lead us, 352 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,020 all right, we will have public comment. 353 00:38:45,020 --> 00:38:46,120 How many parts? 354 00:38:54,750 --> 00:38:58,910 The Board of Education acknowledges receipt of public comments via email. 355 00:38:59,190 --> 00:39:02,130 It will be made part of the permanent record of this meeting. 356 00:39:03,550 --> 00:39:05,930 There are five public comments. 357 00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:18,130 First will be Dr. Gilbert Welton, followed by Helen Morales, followed by Dennis Mathemara. 358 00:39:33,350 --> 00:39:36,490 Good evening, thank you for this opportunity to speak to you all. 359 00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:42,910 I did not go to school here in Pasadena, but I am a strong advocate for public schools. 360 00:39:43,390 --> 00:39:47,970 I grew up in Birmingham, Alabama, and I went to schools that were segregated, and we didn't 361 00:39:47,970 --> 00:39:52,450 have an option for private schools, charter schools, or any of that, and so public school 362 00:39:52,450 --> 00:39:54,470 actually changed my life. 363 00:39:55,350 --> 00:40:01,110 And what I want to speak to is, because of that, years ago, I was reading Thomas Street 364 00:40:01,110 --> 00:40:08,550 month's novel, the world is flat, basically. And in that, he was interviewed David Baltimore, 365 00:40:09,590 --> 00:40:15,330 the Nobel Peace-winning former president of Caltech, one of the leading scientific institutions 366 00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:21,450 in the world. And he said that he was shocked that almost all of their students came from public 367 00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:27,050 school. They did not come from private schools or charter schools. He was surprised by that because 368 00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:29,350 was we generally think of our schools as failing. 369 00:40:30,330 --> 00:40:32,450 And so what I wanted to speak to was the use 370 00:40:33,070 --> 00:40:36,010 of underutilized PUSD property 371 00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:41,830 to house teachers, students, workers, and the like. 372 00:40:42,250 --> 00:40:44,250 Because what made a difference in my life 373 00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:47,990 wasn't just the cognitive things that my school instilled in me, 374 00:40:48,410 --> 00:40:50,410 but it was the character shaping and molding 375 00:40:50,410 --> 00:40:52,370 that they did in conjunction with my family, 376 00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:55,470 so that a community is important. 377 00:40:55,470 --> 00:41:10,890 And so I just want to see the Pasadena Unified School District maybe think about that when you decide how to use this property for people who otherwise would not be able to afford to live here that we can have that kind of community that would be synergistic thank you. 378 00:41:15,340 --> 00:41:16,660 Helen Morales. 379 00:41:18,970 --> 00:41:20,830 Good evening, board members. 380 00:41:21,150 --> 00:41:23,450 Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today. 381 00:41:23,610 --> 00:41:35,850 My name is Helen Morales, and I'm the Director of the Rent Stabilization Division for the City of Pasadena, a new department that was started as a result of Measure H Charter Amendment Article 18 of the Pasadena Code. 382 00:41:36,090 --> 00:41:44,790 And I do want to invite your community, all of our families, who attend the schools here in the City of Pasadena to come to our office. 383 00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:47,690 if they need assistance regarding rental housing matters. 384 00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:51,650 And in addition to that more specifically on October 9th, 385 00:41:51,650 --> 00:42:07,670 we will be having a tenant session at 6.30 PM at 199 South Robeless Office on the first floor to provide input to our board regarding relocation benefits. 386 00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:11,990 And so we invite our tenants to come on October 10th and 387 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:15,810 And our landlords to come on October 9th to provide us feedback to our board. 388 00:42:16,010 --> 00:42:17,970 And again, I thank you for your time in consideration. 389 00:42:18,590 --> 00:42:24,150 And I look forward to helping all of our families and our children in the Pasadena Unified School District. 390 00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:32,050 Thank you very much, and I have my staff member here, Leon Ariano, who is here, and he will be doing our outreach and helping all of our families. 391 00:42:32,430 --> 00:42:33,950 Thank you so much, bye bye. 392 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,460 Thank you. 393 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,240 Dennis McNamara, followed by Sandy Leish. 394 00:42:41,060 --> 00:42:41,940 Thank you. 395 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:49,680 My topic is the evaluation of the superintendent, and in particular the contract which is on the agenda for tonight, 396 00:42:50,060 --> 00:42:54,620 specifically referencing the evaluation of which I can find no public details. 397 00:42:55,500 --> 00:43:01,080 And to be clear, very clear, I am rooting hard for Dr. Blanco and her leadership team. 398 00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:06,180 Leading a school district, especially with our myriad challenges, is difficult. 399 00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:09,560 The evaluation of the role must cover a lot of ground. 400 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:15,480 But it must prioritize progress meeting academic proficiency standards. 401 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,760 The number one LCAP goal is proficiency across all core subjects. 402 00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:23,840 To my mind, that means the superintendent would be held to that goal. 403 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:26,600 Following short is failing. 404 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:33,660 Progress is admirable, improvement is wonderful, but full achievement is the goal. 405 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:38,020 That means 90 plus percent proficiency in literacy and math. 406 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:57,340 Understand it would seem unfair to the newly named superintendent to hold her to that standard given that she is inheriting such a low base, but it is even more unfair to our children to graduate them insufficiently prepared for the real world. 407 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:05,800 If we don't publicly and explicitly set an America standard, we surely will never reach it. 408 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:21,620 In prior presentation of the board, district leadership has stated the goal of a 5% improvement annually in academic proficiency in three years that would approximate 60% proficiency in ELA in about 55% in math. 409 00:44:22,180 --> 00:44:27,820 Can we at least hold the district and specifically the superintendent to this metric? 410 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:44,740 This requires, will require, focused support from the board, hyper-focus, actually, full support and trust to knock down impediments to change in improvement, numerical standards. 411 00:44:45,620 --> 00:44:53,060 Publicly stated, publicly monitored, we owe it to our children, especially the children we say we care most about. 412 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:59,540 I'll repeat my initial comment. I'm rooting hard for Dr. Blanco and her leadership team. 413 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,740 I root harder for our students. Thank you. 414 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,660 Sandy Lee Shope. 415 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:36,960 Hi, my name is Sandy Lee Shope, and I am a leader at the church we hope for here in Pasadena. And I'm here to advocate for the use of unutilized school property, the USDA property for affordable staff housing. 11 school campuses have closed. Most of the 11 campuses are being rented to outside entities such as charter schools. 416 00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:43,400 The campuses are being underutilized in our financial liability to the district. 417 00:45:43,940 --> 00:45:48,940 And these sites are a financial drain on the district using them for affordable housing for 418 00:45:48,940 --> 00:45:52,860 the staff or student families will turn them into financial assets. 419 00:45:53,540 --> 00:45:57,680 Staff and student housing will make the school district stronger and more resilient. 420 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,160 And we don't have to keep closing schools if we can help families stay in Pasadena, 421 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,140 including families of staff who send their children to PUSD schools. 422 00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:13,840 Both teachers and other PUSD staff tend to send their children to PUSD schools, 423 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,700 but only if they are able to live in the district. 424 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,840 But sadly, many can't afford to live here. 425 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,720 So they end up commuting from really far away places, and then their children go to other schools. 426 00:46:25,660 --> 00:46:28,460 So affordable housing for staff could change that. 427 00:46:28,460 --> 00:46:37,280 and affordable housing for PUSD student families can help reduce the loss of families that move out of the district due to the housing cost. 428 00:46:37,780 --> 00:46:45,280 Additionally, because PUSD owns the land, it can both provide affordable housing and realize a profit from this. 429 00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:53,100 And this additional income can be used to help fix remaining school sites which have severe needs for repairs and upgrades. 430 00:46:54,240 --> 00:47:01,540 Staff housing would also help pay for, help the lowest paying employees of PUSD. 431 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,500 Many of them can't afford to live in Pasadena, and so then they end up having to drive 432 00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:10,580 really far away, and then having to spend a lot of time on the road, which they don't 433 00:47:10,580 --> 00:47:11,220 get paid for. 434 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:18,020 So for all of these reasons, I would really strongly advocate that we be able to use PUSD land 435 00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:19,360 for affordable housing. 436 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,640 Thank you for your time. 437 00:47:22,770 --> 00:47:23,210 Thank you. 438 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,000 All 439 00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:38,640 right, that concludes public comment. 440 00:47:38,860 --> 00:47:41,600 Now time for a comment from labor unions. 441 00:47:44,180 --> 00:47:45,680 Michael Delion, would you like to go first? 442 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,480 So good evening, President Kenney, 443 00:48:20,740 --> 00:48:23,140 school board members, super tenant, Dr. 444 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,800 Bronco, audience members and my team 445 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,540 should brother and sisters. 446 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,480 So I'm back. 447 00:48:29,820 --> 00:48:32,220 So I've for a little while, but it's nice to be back. 448 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,160 So I'm here this evening to address a couple of pending issues 449 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,840 use impacting teamsters. 450 00:48:37,780 --> 00:48:41,320 I would like to share a quick PowerPoint in regards to the 451 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:46,980 custodial concerns that were brought up at the last board meeting I attended on May 23rd. 452 00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:56,980 So, concern is a lot of things that were mentioned was sort of caught a lot of my members 453 00:48:56,980 --> 00:49:02,960 should have, especially my custodial members off guard when those comments were made. 454 00:49:03,860 --> 00:49:12,160 We actually had the custodial lead, I spoke to him that night that was at the time during that school and just surprised to hear what was said. 455 00:49:12,940 --> 00:49:23,540 So these are some of the kind of things that they deal with on a regular basis is just to show some graffiti that happens. 456 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,900 So it's not on a daily basis, well it's actually on a daily basis, a cleanup in the morning 457 00:49:30,540 --> 00:49:35,560 in the graffiti passing periods and then they got to clean them all over again. 458 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:41,100 So one of the comments that was made was that they're not being cleaned on a regular basis. 459 00:49:41,740 --> 00:49:43,520 They are being cleaned on a regular basis. 460 00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:46,280 They are being monitored on a regular basis. 461 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,240 Unfortunately, what you're having there is you have a lot of graffiti going on during 462 00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:58,640 passing periods, you have a lot of kids in there smoking weed during the time and there's a lot of 463 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:06,160 vandalism. Our members cannot say anything to the students. So they simply have to respond to 464 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:12,980 when that happens. And then we heard that while the bathrooms get locked. Again, that's not our membership. 465 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:19,560 That's an administration call. So when a lot of things get too bad, they just lock them up. 466 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,180 which again, not our call. 467 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:28,100 So the thing was as a consultative concern to us that was not a custodial concern, it was an administration concern. 468 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:36,880 Fortunately, I think that has been addressed because I gave an example over a John Muir high school that principal has no problems with his restaurant. 469 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:47,120 So again, I think a lot of times and over through the time I've been here, custodial my members shake this sort of thrown under the bus that this is not being done. 470 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,020 I just want to share, there's a lot of other factors in it. 471 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,360 So especially here, there's more to it, but I just wanted to share that with you real quick. 472 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:05,720 So the other reason I'm here this evening is support the Workforce Housing Project at Roosevelt Elementary. 473 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,380 The teachers consider this to be an additional employee benefit. 474 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:17,040 An overwhelming majority of my members want to live closer to where they work and 475 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,040 the land for staff housing, which they get to live in. 476 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,180 Cutting out commute alone is a major benefit. 477 00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:27,440 Less gas, soar into their day, allows them to spend more time with their families. 478 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:34,580 For these reason, building housing that's affordable for the employees on the land that school district owns, but it's not unique, it's a good idea. 479 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,000 Affordable housing will be a net financial gain for the district. 480 00:51:38,580 --> 00:51:44,880 A US-PUSD land is not only a waste of unused resources, but also a cost of the district's money to maintain. 481 00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:48,700 Unused POC land is the drain on the school district's finances. 482 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:57,500 The land is used for staff housing, and it will not only provide a valuable resource for staff, otherwise cannot afford to live in the air, it can also bring income for the district. 483 00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:07,840 Free and affordable housing option district can help attract talented education staff to the district and encourage long term retention and reduction in turnover rates. 484 00:52:08,420 --> 00:52:13,940 This is actually what's currently taking place in Northern California school district. 485 00:52:13,940 --> 00:52:19,380 So, I also work in the Inglewood Unified School District. 486 00:52:19,860 --> 00:52:24,500 The County Administrator is trying to bring the same plan into his district and 487 00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:29,460 shared with me that he had visited the school in Northern California where this has already been implemented. 488 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,660 And have been able to provide housing for their staff. 489 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:40,020 They've been able to fully staff their school district because this is a big incentive of going to work for 490 00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:44,880 that district have the opportunity to work and to live within the district. 491 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,140 So just that additional benefit is drawn people. 492 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:54,080 So as we see this, there's all these additional benefits that come with this program. 493 00:52:54,660 --> 00:52:57,100 We simply see it as a win-win for everybody. 494 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,060 Thank you. 495 00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:05,220 Johnson Gardner? 496 00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:13,240 I would like to use the transition in between to congratulate our labor partners as we celebrate Labor Day and Monday. 497 00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:13,660 All 498 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:26,580 right, thank you, Dr. Blanco, and members of the board, and including our student board member, and members of the public. 499 00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:33,700 I am bringing you our UTP Labor Partner comments for August 28th, we'll do. 500 00:53:37,140 --> 00:53:38,800 All right, so some successes. 501 00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:43,860 I just want to make sure we start with that, because I know previous years that's not where I started. 502 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:49,620 But classrooms were cleaned, for the most part we've, I think it's brought forward. 503 00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:56,560 some of the concerns when our sites are used by multiple programs during the summer it can be 504 00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:02,260 hard for that to get dealt with and I think for the most there were a few cases but those have been 505 00:54:02,260 --> 00:54:08,840 addressed and then curriculum was distributed to the sites it's a better plan but my concern is 506 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,500 the way it was done was not sustainable but we'll talk about that in May so that we can make that 507 00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:19,560 work but even better the HVAC systems though seem to be working which is really a big deal 508 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:26,440 because especially for how hot it's been in the last couple of weeks so I think I 509 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,120 was hitting like I have to 10 emails a day about that previous year so it's 510 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,420 really nice to have not have that. And then of course our teachers and all 511 00:54:35,420 --> 00:54:38,360 their professional educators are giving of themselves for the benefit of the 512 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:43,200 students and they're fully able to do that because there these problems are being 513 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:49,260 met. Some concerns. So teachers and our professional educators are still being 514 00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:55,140 told they have five additional video-based hours of training to do on their own time by September 515 00:54:55,140 --> 00:55:00,520 6, even though HR has already stated that deadline is September 20. We've adjusted a few 516 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,960 of the sites, but I keep finding other sites where they have not yet been told. And so hopefully 517 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:11,260 that will be dealt with. But our big concern is that these five additional video-based hours are a 518 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:18,080 for us to have to do that on top of getting our classrooms going and our curriculum and all these 519 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:23,520 other things, it's a lot. So we are hoping that we can work on a better solution for the future 520 00:55:24,060 --> 00:55:29,300 and that the other thing is if we're watching these videos every single year over and over 521 00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:34,480 and over, they're the exact same thing. It's really hard for our members to justify that time. 522 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:41,060 POST bargaining team unfortunately was not able to meet with us until October, which is a concern. 523 00:55:42,180 --> 00:55:46,560 We provided a number of dates and we're hoping to start in September, but I'll ask 524 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,240 Unfortunately, as of right now, the first dates are in October. 525 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,200 The POST UTP contract violations are not being addressed promptly. 526 00:55:55,860 --> 00:56:02,740 We are hoping that this will quickly speed up, but because we understand at the beginning of the year it's really hard. 527 00:56:02,860 --> 00:56:09,820 But there were a lot of issues with regards to placement of our teachers, the positions. 528 00:56:10,260 --> 00:56:14,860 And what subjects they were assigned and changes over the summer. 529 00:56:14,860 --> 00:56:21,360 And especially a lot of our psychologists had their schedules changed randomly without 530 00:56:21,980 --> 00:56:22,640 following our contract. 531 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:28,560 So we are hoping to address these promptly and quickly and hope that bringing it up here 532 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,920 but also making sure that our systems are followed so that we can get to a resolution quickly. 533 00:56:34,660 --> 00:56:38,300 There was a district practice change this year that we're very concerned about. 534 00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:45,420 So, we now have a split shift in child development for the first time in more than ten decade. 535 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:53,640 Right now, the student, they come from 7 to 830 and then it's followed by a three hour break and 536 00:56:53,640 --> 00:57:02,540 then 1130 to 6, which is 11 hours start to finish and it's borderline cruel to treat some of our lowest 537 00:57:02,540 --> 00:57:08,280 compensated teachers in this way. And we hope that there will be swift, this problem of student 538 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,740 meeting care before school has existed for a decade. 539 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:19,240 It was dealt with previously, and now the change is to have that be on our members, our child development members. 540 00:57:19,460 --> 00:57:24,340 And we don't appreciate that, and we hope that there will be a much better solution come to quickly. 541 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,740 And that we don't split our teacher's time in that way. 542 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:37,260 Superintendent's Budget Committee, so we appreciate that labor partners have a seat at this table. 543 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:46,180 Especially with our teachers, we want to make sure that we have a diversity of opinion 544 00:57:46,180 --> 00:57:51,700 from within our ranks, and because issues on one side of town versus the other side 545 00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:54,960 of town, different subjects that we teach different positions. 546 00:57:55,780 --> 00:58:01,780 Unfortunately, we are only being a lot of one spot, even though there are more teachers 547 00:58:01,780 --> 00:58:03,000 that are going to be on the panel. 548 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:11,880 We have no say currently in this election of those individuals that may be okay regarding 549 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:19,300 the letter of our contract, but it is not going to yield the best outcome for these budget 550 00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:19,720 discussions. 551 00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:22,040 I hope that we will consider something different. 552 00:58:24,180 --> 00:58:29,700 I really think that circumventing our unions in this process is undermining them. 553 00:58:34,260 --> 00:59:01,860 We have been doing site visits now, thankfully this year I am able to be out of the classroom and visit all of our sites and we'll get to all of them very soon, but every single one I've gone to has had concerns and been told that they don't have supplies and they don't they have to share and they're going to have to rush their paper and while we understand that there are needs our teachers need to have what they need. 554 00:59:01,860 --> 00:59:03,300 to be able to teach their classes. 555 00:59:04,260 --> 00:59:06,140 Some of this can be in the past, 556 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,880 it's been like POs being processed too slowly, 557 00:59:10,540 --> 00:59:11,680 so I don't know exactly, 558 00:59:12,620 --> 00:59:14,220 we haven't been able to get to the bottom of it, 559 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,360 but we don't understand why year after year, 560 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,940 our teachers have to wait to have their materials, 561 00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:24,680 they start teaching right away, they attempt to anyway, 562 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,300 and if they don't have the materials, 563 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,960 they need it, it makes it that much harder. 564 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:30,460 Teacher time. 565 00:59:30,460 --> 00:59:33,500 So, POSD needs to value our teacher in educator time. 566 00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:39,680 Some of these critical POs that I just mentioned, but also, I don't want to speak to it on the 567 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:45,380 mic right now, but there are some very concerning POs that need to be processed as soon as possible 568 00:59:45,380 --> 00:59:49,220 to make sure that our district doesn't wind up with legal liability, and that timelines 569 00:59:49,220 --> 00:59:50,400 are able to be adhered to. 570 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:59,320 And I've sent emails, they weren't responded to, so hopefully that'll happen, but we really 571 00:59:59,320 --> 00:59:59,960 We need to make sure... 572 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,240 We are working with our social education staff to meet all the needs that are out there. 573 01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:17,680 Shared decision making is a better way. The master's scheduling needs to be fixed. We only 574 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:23,680 had one school in the district to change their configuration dramatically, but the rest 575 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:28,760 of them there shouldn't have been nearly as many concerns, and yet there were. And since 576 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:34,580 This may, UTP has offered to work with academics in HR and master scheduling, but we never 577 01:00:34,580 --> 01:00:39,580 got something to work with, and so we were not able to help with the process. 578 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:46,320 We need deeper conversations, long-term planning, and we can fix these problems, but cutting 579 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:47,500 out UTP is not the way. 580 01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:55,320 Some potential solutions that are out there, some districts do this, they have thoughtful 581 01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:00,900 overflow systems. They have schools that are designated overflow. We could have overflow 582 01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:08,440 delip, overflow steam, or arts, and find ways to support some of our sites that are not 583 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:17,480 currently favored, but it would help them to be able to have enrollment, and we would be 584 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:22,300 able to keep these other signature programs growing without having to keep adding temporary 585 01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:30,940 structures on sites that are full. So hopefully that is the path forward that we will work 586 01:01:30,940 --> 01:01:35,220 together on solutions and we will be able to get ourselves to a better place. Thank you 587 01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:35,520 for your time. 588 01:01:39,610 --> 01:01:44,010 Thank you. Is anyone from CSCA here, 589 01:01:48,060 --> 01:01:51,190 Pacti, or absent? 590 01:01:54,060 --> 01:01:56,800 All right. The next 591 01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,040 on our agenda is our student board member report. 592 01:02:07,030 --> 01:02:09,430 Thank you, President Kenney, esteemed board members, 593 01:02:09,690 --> 01:02:11,590 and Dr. Blanco for your continued contributions 594 01:02:11,590 --> 01:02:13,690 and commitment to the Pasadena School System, 595 01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:16,650 and to your support for a newly formed student assembly. 596 01:02:17,630 --> 01:02:19,510 We are a young and developed structure. 597 01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:21,630 However, thanks to you, we believe we have the power 598 01:02:21,630 --> 01:02:24,470 and ability to create meaningful, long-lasting, 599 01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:27,450 and impactful progress within PUSD. 600 01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:29,850 The student assembly would like to recognize 601 01:02:29,850 --> 01:02:32,350 and commend the board's plans for creating affordable housing 602 01:02:32,350 --> 01:02:36,730 the options for district employees. These plans will foster stability among staff leading 603 01:02:36,730 --> 01:02:41,050 to enhance collaboration and better educational outcomes for the district employees as well 604 01:02:41,050 --> 01:02:45,490 as students. Over the summer, the student assembly took a break to focus on individual 605 01:02:45,490 --> 01:02:49,990 personal projects. However, we are now back and ready to begin the process of researching 606 01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:55,010 structures and processes to create meaningful and long-lasting progress, including collaborations 607 01:02:55,010 --> 01:03:00,430 with different segments of the district. Also, we would like to expand our student assembly 608 01:03:00,430 --> 01:03:05,710 representatives to include CIS and Rose City to ensure the best representation of the student body. 609 01:03:06,570 --> 01:03:09,710 This statement will cover the student assembly goals of improving 610 01:03:09,710 --> 01:03:13,750 communication in the classroom setting and ensuring district-wide accountability. 611 01:03:14,470 --> 01:03:18,350 As mentioned by my fellow student assembly member in June 2024, 612 01:03:18,970 --> 01:03:23,170 one major objective of the student assembly has been to improve communication between students 613 01:03:23,170 --> 01:03:27,050 and teachers in the classroom setting. We have been exploring different ideas of what 614 01:03:27,050 --> 01:03:30,930 improve communication could look like and how to achieve it. The student assembly 615 01:03:30,930 --> 01:03:36,570 recognizes and appreciates the immense work that teachers do to provide students us, with the best 616 01:03:36,570 --> 01:03:41,830 education. We hope to work with students and teachers to ensure the accountability on both the 617 01:03:41,830 --> 01:03:46,570 students and the teacher's ends. Decide my fellow assembly member Emilio from our last statement. 618 01:03:47,050 --> 01:03:51,690 It is important to note at this time we are not advocating for any specific tool that can help us 619 01:03:51,690 --> 01:03:55,990 achieve this goal as we respect that any major change to the student and teacher relationship should 620 01:03:55,990 --> 01:04:00,390 be done only with the involvement and active participation of the teachers union and the 621 01:04:00,390 --> 01:04:04,970 district administration. Building on top of that, the student assembly not only wishes 622 01:04:04,970 --> 01:04:09,190 to improve communication within the classrooms, but also improve communication lines between 623 01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:14,390 teachers, students, and administration on district-wide decisions, which could ensure accountability 624 01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:20,630 on what happens in classrooms and on campuses. We recognize that creating major systematic 625 01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:25,390 progress will be a research-intensive process, but we believe that with the 626 01:04:25,390 --> 01:04:29,410 collaborative effort of everyone involved, we will create a stronger district and 627 01:04:29,410 --> 01:04:33,890 community. As stated earlier because of the honorable position that the 628 01:04:33,890 --> 01:04:37,590 student assembly is in, we are able to voice our goals of improving communication 629 01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:41,010 classrooms and ensuring accountability between students, teachers, and 630 01:04:41,010 --> 01:04:45,910 administration on decisions throughout the district. Thank you to the student 631 01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:49,690 think tank for creating such an amazing system and thank you to you, the esteemed 632 01:04:49,690 --> 01:04:53,570 board for enabling us to create change and provide a voice to the student body. 633 01:04:54,050 --> 01:04:54,050 Thank 634 01:04:56,740 --> 01:04:57,340 you. 635 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:25,240 All right. 636 01:05:25,580 --> 01:05:28,300 We're on item K, board committee reports. 637 01:05:29,580 --> 01:05:32,540 Anybody have brief reports from their committees? 638 01:05:33,860 --> 01:05:34,420 Jennifer? 639 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:41,160 It's very brief but safety committee met for the first time in a couple of months and we heard 640 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:46,400 from young and healthy and we had a great time and I don't think there's really much else 641 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:53,020 to say but we'll meet again in October and it was wonderful. Thank you. 642 01:05:55,540 --> 01:05:57,780 All right. We had a policy meeting 643 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:05,160 in August and I just wanted to say we're caught up. I may have said that when I spoke to you at 644 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:15,460 the beginning of August but it's wonderful. Ms. Sanchez was a great help and we are continuing on with 645 01:06:15,460 --> 01:06:22,560 wonderful help. Our next meeting will be on October 2nd. One of the items that came up during 646 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:28,040 this meeting because of one of the policies that's on the agenda tonight. It was 647 01:06:31,110 --> 01:06:32,050 governing 648 01:06:32,050 --> 01:06:40,510 board elections and there was some language that CSBA is suggesting and then we are under 649 01:06:40,510 --> 01:06:45,610 the city charter, the Pasadena city charter. So a lot of what governs our elections is there. 650 01:06:45,610 --> 01:06:55,850 So we did say it might be, there might be board interest on updating the city charter 651 01:06:55,850 --> 01:07:00,030 in regards to the section of the city charter regarding our school board and elections, 652 01:07:00,550 --> 01:07:07,750 but that we thought that something we could start in 2025, that doing it now before upcoming 653 01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:12,210 election might not make sense, but that we would approach that in January. 654 01:07:14,460 --> 01:07:23,280 So, to clarify what you're saying, we're talking about the evaluation of establishing term limits for school board members. 655 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,800 Reviewing any and all of that language. 656 01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:30,280 I mean, it's not our charter, so I think we would have to figure out the process. 657 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,840 Mr. Cahilin, if you want to talk a little bit more about it. 658 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:41,560 Yeah, so because we are not an independent government entity, but we're chartered under the City Council. 659 01:07:42,420 --> 01:07:53,260 and the city charter, typically what's happened in the past is whenever there's needed to be a change in the chunk of the city charter that applies to the school district, 660 01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:09,220 the formal, there hasn't really been a formal process, but the informal process has been the Board of Education established as it's a charter task force to make, to generate a report. 661 01:08:09,220 --> 01:08:14,240 The board then votes on that and then that goes to the City Council and we're basically we're asking the City Council 662 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,040 Please take this into account 663 01:08:17,300 --> 01:08:19,560 When the City Council does its own 664 01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:24,320 Charter committee task force it typically only organizes and 665 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,160 Focuses on the parts of the City Charter that applied to the City 666 01:08:27,700 --> 01:08:30,980 So if we don't take the reins on our stuff 667 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:38,740 The changes don't happen. I've mentioned before a couple of times that some of the language in the City Charter 668 01:08:39,900 --> 01:08:43,140 is it can lead to a case where there's a, 669 01:08:45,580 --> 01:08:52,780 us as a board are stuck between the City Charter and Ed Coat, because the Charter City Charter is quite old, and 670 01:08:52,780 --> 01:09:00,460 Ed Coat has changed several times since then, and many things that have come up regarding the timing of elections or 671 01:09:00,460 --> 01:09:09,640 the case when we switched to sub districts, that was something that was sort of pushed by the general political climate in the state of California, but 672 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,880 But we had to go through this hoop process. 673 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:20,140 So it's kind of been a low grade back burner thought of mine that we should encourage 674 01:09:20,140 --> 01:09:28,380 a charter task force to cover the PUSD parts of the city charter, including possibly 675 01:09:28,380 --> 01:09:34,740 even investigating what it would take, or if it's even possible for us to be a separate part 676 01:09:34,740 --> 01:09:35,880 of the charter entirely. 677 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:41,740 So that rather than petitioning the City Council, we could make our own decisions about the charter. 678 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:51,280 But that's a fairly substantial conversation and requires somebody who knows, not just California constitutional law, 679 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,660 but charter city law and what it takes to organize a school district. 680 01:09:55,940 --> 01:10:02,600 So I think that we're probably close to the state where getting ahead of this and 681 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:10,080 putting language in this city charter at the very least that makes it clear that the order 682 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:15,220 of operations is PUSD should first respond to the California Constitution and then 683 01:10:15,220 --> 01:10:19,800 Ed Code and then after that things in the city charter is probably warranted. 684 01:10:19,940 --> 01:10:25,880 So, but as Kim pointed out, it's a lengthy conversation, it's a process that we're never going 685 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:31,140 to undergo as a board during an actual election year because there's too many other things going 686 01:10:31,140 --> 01:10:37,540 on election lines and so we at policy thought it would be a good idea to sort of see if the board is 687 01:10:37,540 --> 01:10:41,980 interested in pursuing this and if so, a good time to start would probably be January 2025. 688 01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:48,620 So I was just thinking we would talk then about, you know, is this something that we have a 689 01:10:49,480 --> 01:10:55,020 like a task force committee that wants to go pursue this? You could certainly interest me in 690 01:10:55,020 --> 01:11:12,420 And removing ourselves from the city charter so that we would have control over making any of those decisions when we want to not by having to go through a full election cycle, you know, and take it to the voters most districts don't have to do that. 691 01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:15,120 So that was just a quick update from policy. 692 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:29,400 Well, I believe that given recent actions from the Pasadena City Council, they would support 693 01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:37,040 a conversation with us, especially in regards of term limits, given that that's a conversation 694 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,700 that they're also having internally. 695 01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:41,300 So I 696 01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:51,320 don't understand the need to wait until 2025, we can start an ongoing conversation. 697 01:11:57,740 --> 01:12:02,280 Is there any other opinions that going forward waiting, 698 01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:08,020 someone has to volunteer to do this, so there's that. 699 01:12:11,620 --> 01:12:21,440 I'll work for this with this and I know that some of the board members have stress interest in tackling the issue of time limits with the City Council. 700 01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:24,900 So we can have a joint effort, right? 701 01:12:25,220 --> 01:12:26,740 Would it just be on one topic, 702 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,120 or would it be on actually doing a revision 703 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,760 to the city charter, because I don't know if, 704 01:12:32,900 --> 01:12:34,700 I don't actually don't know if that term limits 705 01:12:34,700 --> 01:12:35,580 is in the city charter. 706 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,800 Well, one of the other things that could come up, 707 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:43,060 for example, is I know that some local governance bodies 708 01:12:43,060 --> 01:12:46,780 are reviewing their rules about campaign finance, 709 01:12:47,460 --> 01:12:50,100 because we are not bad, there's no limit. 710 01:12:50,100 --> 01:13:03,940 For those in the public that don't know, there is no limit on campaign contributions for local educational agencies in the state of California, so technically you could build a war chest to run for Senate while you're sitting on a school board. 711 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:13,900 And there was a conversation about whether or not the city council wanted to have campaign finance caps for city council positions. 712 01:13:13,900 --> 01:13:21,180 But again, when they talk about these sort of things, they don't, they're typically not talking about the part of the charter that applies to the school board. 713 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:27,460 So that would be one other topic that this group could discuss. 714 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:32,620 There's a couple other things that have cropped up over the years. 715 01:13:34,060 --> 01:13:40,800 One of the interesting things is right now, we almost ran into this at the last election cycle. 716 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:50,160 Well, we almost had to seat people in the seats before the state certified the election results. 717 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,720 And we probably don't want to put ourselves in the pit. 718 01:13:53,900 --> 01:14:00,040 We've been lucky in that we haven't had a school board race come down to two votes and 719 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,280 have there be contested, provisional about it. 720 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:07,500 A lot of these things are what I would call very low probability, but 721 01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:17,080 but very high risk events, and so if you're going to do charter reform, you might as well just put a process flow diagram up on the board and scrub these things out where they come up. 722 01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:24,500 When I talk to Dr. Villescaz after the meeting and we can figure out how to move forward and see how that goes. 723 01:14:24,780 --> 01:14:27,540 All right. Any other committee? 724 01:14:27,540 --> 01:14:27,700 The 725 01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:40,580 facilities committee met on August 20th and our facilities department was really 726 01:14:40,580 --> 01:14:46,360 productive over the summer, and we've been communicating out the accomplishments of 727 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:55,680 our projects for measure O, the locks, the shade structures, the prometian boards, the 728 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,560 playgrounds, the, you know, 729 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,860 Resurfacing lots of projects and in committee, we had what's new was some updates on the modernizations. We had some really detailed diagram. So looking forward to seeing more of that. And then just to highlight the school district was chosen for the Southern California Leadership Institute for Green School Yards. So that was a new item. 730 01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:39,000 and then we updated the facilities committee charter which is something we're going to go over today and our next meeting is September 10th. 731 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,600 So I think I'll hear me. 732 01:15:48,800 --> 01:16:00,640 So I do want to add that the presentations that we received in that committee from the work that's been done on measure. 733 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:26,640 I was hoping that we could get that on the board agenda or our September October meeting because there was some really good work done over the summer that I believe the community and and everyone needs to see they need to be privy to so that they can see that we are moving forward with some of our projects. 734 01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:36,060 So you're thinking what maybe a slideshow of photos in a summary of the work that's 735 01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:38,380 the same presentation that they brought to us. 736 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,240 I would like them to bring it to the board. 737 01:16:43,220 --> 01:16:45,900 For the main three projects, the three upcoming projects, 738 01:16:45,900 --> 01:16:46,900 not the work that was done. 739 01:16:47,180 --> 01:16:49,680 That's why I was to say the work that was done over the summer. 740 01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:50,160 Okay. 741 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,180 That's the presentation. 742 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:52,240 All right. 743 01:16:52,340 --> 01:16:53,900 Maybe I'm just not remembering it exactly. 744 01:16:54,980 --> 01:16:59,020 was the presentation that was presented to us in the facilities committee. 745 01:16:59,860 --> 01:17:03,300 It sounds very interesting to me. I'd like to see that. 746 01:17:04,820 --> 01:17:05,260 Yeah, 747 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:22,860 there's diagrams of like the mock-ups, I guess, what you call it, of the modernization. 748 01:17:23,260 --> 01:17:25,320 I think, is that what you're talking about? Trust you, Bailey. 749 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:26,740 Mm-hmm. Okay. 750 01:17:29,540 --> 01:17:32,780 So the mirror and the Madison and Longfellow future projects, 751 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:37,300 and those are the future, they showed us some work that was done where they had already 752 01:17:37,820 --> 01:17:47,500 like they had worked on some playgrounds and they had done some work okay yeah 753 01:17:47,500 --> 01:17:51,020 I've worked a couple of things but there was that one presentation that I 754 01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:56,180 asked you about bringing it to the board do you remember what it was 755 01:17:56,820 --> 01:18:01,140 technically the work of the mock-ups is work that has been done over the summer 756 01:18:01,140 --> 01:18:06,680 because it's work that has been done with community in terms of all of the 757 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:13,220 different committees. That presentation, if presented on the board, needs some adjustments. 758 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:21,260 So that the effort that we put into all three sites looks more equitable. However, that 759 01:18:21,260 --> 01:18:29,760 is work that has been done over the summer, along with the report of jobs completed over 760 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:34,560 the summer, which was in like a presentation itself, but it was a report that it was- 761 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,660 It was at Hamilton's playground. 762 01:18:35,940 --> 01:18:37,640 It was one of the playgrounds that they had drawn 763 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,760 that was very beautiful, and that was part 764 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,100 of the presentation. 765 01:18:44,140 --> 01:18:45,980 Yeah, I, yeah. 766 01:18:46,700 --> 01:18:49,620 So when I work with Mr. Krasko and we'll figure out 767 01:18:50,260 --> 01:18:54,740 a brief presentation that we can do that can highlight 768 01:18:54,740 --> 01:18:57,680 the work done over the summer with photos. 769 01:18:58,360 --> 01:18:59,560 I was surprised. 770 01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,020 I didn't realize Elliot was getting new tennis courts, 771 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:09,480 Because I knew we're doing asphalt work and I just didn't equate tennis courts and asphalt don't ask me why. 772 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:16,680 But then it could also include what we've done up to now on our major projects, which is finishing the schematics. 773 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:24,560 I think for me, the way the agenda is, I think Mr. Carosco had, you maybe had two or three presentations. 774 01:19:25,700 --> 01:19:31,240 So it's like really hard because it was a while ago to remember exactly which presentation 775 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:41,020 in that I'm referring to right now, but I do know what I saw, and at that moment at that time, I said that it needed to come to the board. 776 01:19:48,020 --> 01:19:50,900 While I have my mic open, were you going to move on? 777 01:19:51,980 --> 01:19:58,180 So the ledge committee did meet, we didn't make any decisions on anything in particular. 778 01:19:58,180 --> 01:20:05,700 we are continuing to follow ACA. Is it seven? 779 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,640 And we 780 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,320 worked on revising the 781 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:19,580 charter as well. We're not done with that. And then our next meeting is I'm 782 01:20:19,580 --> 01:20:26,500 trying to get my calendar. It looks like our next meeting is probably going to be on 783 01:20:26,500 --> 01:20:30,100 in the 11th of September. 784 01:20:33,980 --> 01:20:38,320 The equity committee's next meeting is on September 9, 785 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:42,100 at which point we'll be talking about the implementation 786 01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:43,120 of the new programming. 787 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:48,500 So it would be really important if some of our labor partners 788 01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:52,000 join us in this conversation as we move forward 789 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,660 with the agenda for equity. 790 01:20:58,350 --> 01:20:59,150 OK, great. 791 01:20:59,150 --> 01:21:10,990 All right, let's then, so the next item L is approval of the revised charter for the facilities committee and Tina, you said you thought there was a public comment. 792 01:21:11,650 --> 01:21:13,370 I would like to pull this item. 793 01:21:17,050 --> 01:21:17,390 Okay. 794 01:21:19,310 --> 01:21:28,970 Some of the edits presented in the charter were not the edits discussed during committee so we didn't have a chance to really work through some of the challenges that are presented today. 795 01:21:38,300 --> 01:21:42,820 I would like to table it for our next meeting later in this month. 796 01:21:44,220 --> 01:21:49,460 I'm sorry, I think there's a misunderstanding, because what is being printed in front of us, 797 01:21:49,460 --> 01:21:51,720 it was not what's posted, so. 798 01:21:55,090 --> 01:21:57,110 The which version is it that we wanted to. 799 01:21:57,430 --> 01:22:00,950 So this was what I was going to propose as an amendment. 800 01:22:01,850 --> 01:22:05,270 But should that go to the facilities committee and then come back to us? 801 01:22:05,890 --> 01:22:06,970 That is what I propose. 802 01:22:06,970 --> 01:22:09,930 If it wasn't done at facilities, that. 803 01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:14,090 Well, when I looked online, there were two. 804 01:22:14,890 --> 01:22:18,930 Because I questioned, I initially said, wait, 805 01:22:19,050 --> 01:22:20,810 this isn't the revision that we worked on. 806 01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:24,090 But then there was another document now below that. 807 01:22:25,270 --> 01:22:27,770 So I was, I thought that's what this was. 808 01:22:28,850 --> 01:22:33,010 The hard copy is different than the two versions on the website. 809 01:22:33,010 --> 01:22:37,590 So this was just something I wanted to make a motion to amend. 810 01:22:38,910 --> 01:22:40,710 Is it okay if that goes back to facilities? 811 01:22:40,990 --> 01:22:48,270 And I had a couple, I had some input which I can then, I can just email you to share with the committee. 812 01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:50,110 But I don't understand. 813 01:22:50,230 --> 01:22:51,890 So then what was the point of having this? 814 01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:56,050 Well, I didn't know we were going to keep changing it, but I did want to. 815 01:22:57,790 --> 01:22:58,190 Okay. 816 01:22:58,190 --> 01:23:00,150 Excuse me, Tina. 817 01:23:01,670 --> 01:23:05,590 So this isn't even what we amended as a committee? 818 01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:09,710 If you remove the red parts, that was what we had approved. 819 01:23:11,210 --> 01:23:16,350 The red part is what I was going to make a motion to add. 820 01:23:16,970 --> 01:23:20,350 Just like when I added LGBTQ to the... 821 01:23:20,350 --> 01:23:23,390 Then this wasn't what was online because the online had this. 822 01:23:24,090 --> 01:23:25,510 This isn't the same document. 823 01:23:26,350 --> 01:23:34,130 online the dates you have this and there were two documents online okay let's 824 01:23:34,130 --> 01:23:39,910 let's just just push this to a committee and then we'll bring it back later yeah 825 01:23:39,910 --> 01:23:42,970 I'll second the motion to table so oh 826 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,580 yeah okay or we can just refer it back 827 01:23:47,580 --> 01:23:48,280 to the committee 828 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,940 let's table it and have a vote to table it so it has an action if 829 01:23:54,940 --> 01:24:03,620 that's a point of order point of order if the recommendation is to refer it 830 01:24:03,620 --> 01:24:06,140 back to committee, then you do not want to table said motion. 831 01:24:06,660 --> 01:24:10,460 The resolution should be to refer it back to committee, so that the appropriate 832 01:24:10,460 --> 01:24:12,660 action can take place and then they can come back to us for action. 833 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,860 So I don't want to kill it. 834 01:24:28,690 --> 01:24:31,030 So the motion on the floor was to table it, correct? 835 01:24:31,230 --> 01:24:36,970 And so that person has to retract their motion in order to refer to committee. 836 01:24:37,250 --> 01:24:37,830 No, it wasn't. 837 01:24:38,190 --> 01:24:40,570 I second it, but I'll withdraw my second. 838 01:24:40,570 --> 01:24:42,950 So, I 839 01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:51,120 do think we should table it for the full board and send it back to committee to 840 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:58,000 come back to the board, and I understand that there are many sets of parliamentary 841 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,320 rules that have lots of other motions, but 842 01:25:04,060 --> 01:25:06,480 so you're saying this is not a motion. 843 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,560 So, I would move that this go back to committee. 844 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,580 Okay, can somebody second it? 845 01:25:15,580 --> 01:25:16,400 I'll second it. 846 01:25:16,460 --> 01:25:16,700 Okay. 847 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:18,060 All in favor? 848 01:25:19,660 --> 01:25:20,540 Thank you. 849 01:25:20,740 --> 01:25:21,980 Actually, I'm so sorry. 850 01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:27,340 Can we have our reminds me again for the student to vote. 851 01:25:27,540 --> 01:25:28,420 They get to vote first. 852 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:28,980 I'm sorry. 853 01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:30,020 No, that's quite all right. 854 01:25:30,340 --> 01:25:30,980 I know. 855 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:32,300 It was a long summer. 856 01:25:34,440 --> 01:25:36,080 So student board member? 857 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:38,240 Yes. 858 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:39,120 All right. 859 01:25:39,940 --> 01:25:41,000 All in favor? 860 01:25:43,050 --> 01:25:46,090 7-0 plus 1 preferential to go back to committee. 861 01:25:46,430 --> 01:25:46,810 Thank you. 862 01:25:48,250 --> 01:25:51,190 All right, so we are moving on then with action items. 863 01:25:53,050 --> 01:25:55,130 First is item M1. 864 01:25:55,850 --> 01:25:58,350 Mr. Varo-Karemi is up. 865 01:26:07,410 --> 01:26:10,030 And just briefly, I want to mention that this, 866 01:26:10,370 --> 01:26:13,070 as a resolution for an emergency, 867 01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:15,230 needs to pass with a unanimous vote. 868 01:26:30,930 --> 01:26:33,170 Hello, good afternoon, Board of Trustees. 869 01:26:33,170 --> 01:26:36,830 expertise, Superintendent Blanco, and community. 870 01:26:37,550 --> 01:26:42,910 My name is Manuel Carrasco, I'm the Director of Main's Operation and Transportation for your Pasadena Unified School District. 871 01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:49,540 For your Pasadena Unified School District, we're here. 872 01:26:50,180 --> 01:26:58,120 You see before you emergency resolution to approve emergency procurement for 873 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:10,820 Our Chiller Unit Replacement at Field Elementary School at about August the 13th, about six days before schools started. 874 01:27:11,820 --> 01:27:16,820 Our Chiller Unit went down at Field Elementary School. 875 01:27:17,420 --> 01:27:27,380 The Facilities Department needed to act swiftly to ensure that we didn't disrupt the plant operations. 876 01:27:27,380 --> 01:27:34,140 for school start, so we acted swiftly. 877 01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:47,260 We contacted our partners, one of those partners was able to not only take on this work, 878 01:27:48,020 --> 01:27:55,180 but also a guarantee that they could provide a loaner-chiller while the 879 01:27:55,180 --> 01:28:00,600 The Chile is being ordered, abircated, and delivered. 880 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:07,520 So before you is a resolution, I request in that authorization. 881 01:28:10,290 --> 01:28:11,370 Any questions? 882 01:28:13,010 --> 01:28:14,090 I was going to move the roll. 883 01:28:14,470 --> 01:28:17,770 All right, second, any other discussion? 884 01:28:19,530 --> 01:28:20,830 All right, student board member? 885 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:23,700 Yes. 886 01:28:24,780 --> 01:28:26,100 All those in favor? 887 01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:33,030 six with one absent, six zero with one absent. 888 01:28:33,990 --> 01:28:42,470 All right, we will now move on to M2 resolution 2779 to procure supplemental transportation services. 889 01:28:50,080 --> 01:29:03,250 Good afternoon everyone, again, this is in connection to resolution 2779, the procurement of supplemental transportation services. 890 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:27,600 Less than 90 days ago, we went out to public bid to augment our transportation provider pool to ensure that we are able as a school district support our robust arts, 891 01:29:30,060 --> 01:29:35,580 Athletics and other programming in regards to field trips. 892 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:44,320 This is not in reference to home to school transportation that we provide to our children 893 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,420 with exceptional needs or special needs. 894 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,860 This is for field trip transportation. 895 01:29:50,860 --> 01:29:59,740 And 90 days ago we were able to secure only one additional provider of yellow bus. 896 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:13,400 Yellow bus units, we were able to provide ad for additional charter buses, which we don't really 897 01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:23,920 utilize that often because of the cost and also the charter buses meeting, the luxury 898 01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:32,280 three buses are more for our way trips or trips of longer distances. 899 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:38,320 So we come before you, requesting your authorization for 900 01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:44,440 the Transportation Department to seek additional vendors in order to support 901 01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:55,000 the last school year we did over 1,500 field trips across the district. 902 01:30:55,000 --> 01:31:07,520 So, we want to continue to provide that support and those opportunities to our educational community and that's why you see this resolution before you. 903 01:31:14,580 --> 01:31:22,400 Thank you for this. Now, it says here that the district had over 1,800 ill trips last year. 904 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:31,840 Okay, now that I do know is a really high, high number, and I do know that there are companies 905 01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:37,780 that provide transportation who basically say one company can't do this, right, 1800 906 01:31:37,780 --> 01:31:38,320 trips. 907 01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:39,280 It's kind of crazy. 908 01:31:39,480 --> 01:31:43,980 And then you've got the mountains, so you need certain people who can drive a van up 909 01:31:43,980 --> 01:31:44,580 into the mountains. 910 01:31:44,580 --> 01:31:48,900 And that's what has really hurt us in this last year, correct? 911 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:51,880 And- 912 01:31:51,880 --> 01:32:07,700 The question is what is the plan going forward and I can ask our superintendent that are plan going forward for this wonderful time for every student to be involved in 1800 field trips a year, but how do we manage this I 913 01:32:11,580 --> 01:32:23,820 think after the pandemic a lot of our parent groups had a lot of money that they had saved up they weren't able to use during those couple of years and they really wanted to provide like lots of extra opportunities for the students. 914 01:32:23,820 --> 01:32:32,200 We've also increased our opportunities throughout the city and just with partners allowing us to participate. 915 01:32:32,440 --> 01:32:40,700 So we are doing an analysis to see if there's some way we could have fair and equitable, so many buses per day. 916 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:46,340 Because what happens then when we weren't able to meet the need is some people were quite upset. 917 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:53,300 And sometimes we didn't find out that a bus wasn't showing up until that day because they had trouble with their own employees. 918 01:32:53,300 --> 01:32:59,340 they didn't know they weren't showing up. So we want to add additional vendor 919 01:32:59,340 --> 01:33:06,520 opportunity so that we can meet the needs but also we will put some controls, 920 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:11,480 you know, at least, you know, per day because we'll see where we have the most 921 01:33:11,480 --> 01:33:16,480 trouble just like we do with, you know, conferences and workshops. We try not to 922 01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:20,340 have them on certain days because we know there's a higher absentee rate so we're 923 01:33:20,340 --> 01:33:22,780 in the middle of looking at that, the curriculum department. 924 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:30,420 In addition to that, under the leadership of Dr. Blanco, we've already initiated a kind 925 01:33:30,420 --> 01:33:40,520 of like a strategic planning sessions, if you will, with academics to ensure that all 926 01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:48,120 of our processes are streamlined and also looking at the type of trips, the frequency at each 927 01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:55,280 of the schools and making sure that we're utilizing the best resources we can to provide 928 01:33:55,280 --> 01:34:05,340 these opportunities. Examples of that is maybe the use of smaller buses, maybe not 929 01:34:05,340 --> 01:34:15,460 as many three passenger vehicles for smaller groups. You know, it's nice for one student 930 01:34:15,460 --> 01:34:22,520 student to be in one seat, but in order to leverage our resources, we need to really work 931 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:28,560 together with our academics, our coaches, our arts coordinators, and what have you just 932 01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:36,520 to make sure that we're utilizing those resources the best we can in order to offer and support 933 01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:42,700 the trips that our programs are initiating for our students. 934 01:34:42,700 --> 01:34:43,380 So, 935 01:34:47,290 --> 01:34:54,410 I know that, you know, one of the, I've got a lot of negative feedback about field 936 01:34:54,410 --> 01:34:55,410 trip buses last year. 937 01:34:55,790 --> 01:35:00,470 So I agree that we need to do this, and I think, you know, given the state 938 01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:03,710 of the current 939 01:35:03,710 --> 01:35:06,810 market and provisioning the services, this is the right way to go. 940 01:35:07,010 --> 01:35:12,970 So I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to vote to approve this as a sort of 50,000-foot 941 01:35:12,970 --> 01:35:14,450 question, though. 942 01:35:16,510 --> 01:35:23,340 I would, I don't know how other school districts handle this historically. 943 01:35:23,700 --> 01:35:27,760 Like most school districts used to have a driver cadre, and they had their own buses. 944 01:35:28,140 --> 01:35:35,640 I mean, this was the thing that school districts used to do before Prop 13, but even back 945 01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:40,900 then, you're not talking about a set route in the beginning of the day and a set route at 946 01:35:40,900 --> 01:35:43,640 the end of the day for something for a regular employee to have a regular schedule. 947 01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:53,320 So this is still effectively, if you were going to do this in-house you'd have to effectively have a pool of temporary bus drivers. 948 01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,920 People who are already cleared for the district who could be on call to drive after hours. 949 01:35:57,540 --> 01:36:06,540 So I am interested in seeing if there is a way to do this in the long run, where we're making this something that's more in-house. 950 01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:09,680 But I think this is the best solution for upcoming here. 951 01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:13,580 And, well, are we ready for a motion? 952 01:36:13,740 --> 01:36:15,500 Does anyone have a rule? 953 01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:16,980 Good. 954 01:36:17,460 --> 01:36:17,780 Second. 955 01:36:18,540 --> 01:36:18,880 Great. 956 01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:20,500 Student Board Member? 957 01:36:21,100 --> 01:36:21,320 Yes. 958 01:36:22,180 --> 01:36:22,580 Great. 959 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:23,560 All in favor? 960 01:36:25,460 --> 01:36:26,740 Passes 70. 961 01:36:34,140 --> 01:36:34,480 All right. 962 01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:41,860 The next presentation is a resolution 2780 establishing a small business program and local business 963 01:36:41,860 --> 01:36:46,280 This outreach program for district construction administered by the facilities department. 964 01:36:48,690 --> 01:36:49,190 Good evening. 965 01:36:49,530 --> 01:36:53,770 Simone Brevo-Kremie, Chief Business Officer, and Mr. Krosk is going to stay up here with me. 966 01:36:53,970 --> 01:36:56,050 He's been working on this for some time, 967 01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:02,160 excuse me. 968 01:37:04,860 --> 01:37:09,100 Okay, so small business enterprise policies and project labor agreements. 969 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:13,400 So there's a board item for your consideration, and 970 01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:18,560 this is just a brief presentation to give you a little bit more background about SBE policies. 971 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:25,180 So, as is often the case in many communities, there's a huge interest in keeping local 972 01:37:25,180 --> 01:37:32,620 dollars with local companies to invest the funds that we have to support local businesses. 973 01:37:33,540 --> 01:37:39,860 On April 9th of 2024, our council did present to the facilities and capital projects committee 974 01:37:39,860 --> 01:37:40,980 on this topic. 975 01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,500 So the background is small business enterprise policy. 976 01:37:48,500 --> 01:37:52,800 So school boards obviously serve the unique and diverse needs of the communities represent. 977 01:37:53,740 --> 01:38:02,140 And for that reason, the legislature has granted boards with wide authority to set policies that create programs for those communities that they serve. 978 01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:07,760 In California, there are contract preference policies for both small business enterprises, SBEs, 979 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:13,500 local business enterprises, LBEs, that are actually authorized by statute. 980 01:38:13,500 --> 01:38:17,020 So both types of policies provide essentially the same benefits. 981 01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:22,780 There are some risks with LBEs, which is why we're recommending moving forward with an SBE policy. 982 01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:30,180 So the public contract code defines an SBE as one independently owned and 983 01:38:30,180 --> 01:38:33,360 operated that is not dominant in its field of operation. 984 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,260 Two, that has its principal office located in California. 985 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,680 And that the officers are domiciled in in California. 986 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:57,720 which has 200 or fewer employees and average annual gross receipts of for construction companies services, 36 million dollars or less over the previous three years and for other services, 15 million dollars or less over the previous three years. 987 01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:58,720 So, 988 01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,700 what can an SBE policy include, what are the allowed components? 989 01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:10,940 So, one, it can provide small businesses bid preferences of up to 70% of the lowest 990 01:39:10,940 --> 01:39:16,220 responsible bidder, up to a maximum value of $150,000 per bid. 991 01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:21,960 You can establish a subcontracting participation goal for small businesses on contracts and 992 01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:28,280 grant a preference up to a maximum again of 7% to those bidders who meet the goal, and 993 01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:33,760 and also require prospective bidders to make a good faith effort to meet a subcontracting participation goal. 994 01:39:35,660 --> 01:39:39,400 The board, the district does have an existing policy. 995 01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:43,080 It was passed in 2009, a local outreach policy and 996 01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:46,360 what that policy did, what that board resolution did is it set some goals. 997 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:51,020 So 25% are up at least 25% for small businesses, 998 01:39:51,580 --> 01:39:53,780 at least 25% for local service providers, 999 01:39:53,780 --> 01:39:59,960 25% for local tradespeople and at least 5% for female tradespeople. 1000 01:40:00,620 --> 01:40:07,100 So this existing policy can be integrated into the SPE preference policy that we would 1001 01:40:07,100 --> 01:40:07,480 implement. 1002 01:40:09,660 --> 01:40:11,900 Keeper visions on the resolution. 1003 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:17,460 So the proposed program takes a different approach while the 25% SPE goal would remain. 1004 01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:24,140 So what was in the prior resolution, that prior 2009 policy would remain, setting specific 1005 01:40:24,140 --> 01:40:26,720 outreach goals on the basis of gender and minority status 1006 01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,940 that fall into disfavor. 1007 01:40:29,660 --> 01:40:32,380 So the proposed program provides, and this is the quote, 1008 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,060 so the district may target these businesses 1009 01:40:34,060 --> 01:40:36,000 in their local business outreach efforts. 1010 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,460 So as long as the specific outreach effort is targeted 1011 01:40:39,460 --> 01:40:42,720 at all local businesses and does not grant any preference 1012 01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,540 or preferential treatment to minority or women owned businesses. 1013 01:40:48,220 --> 01:40:50,020 So a little background on PLAs. 1014 01:40:51,460 --> 01:40:54,360 So PLAs is a project labor agreement. 1015 01:40:55,020 --> 01:41:10,060 The standard terms are, so registration is all employees of all contractors and subcontractors must register with the appropriate trade union workers are not required to join the union but they must comply with the union security provision of all applicable collective bargaining agreements. 1016 01:41:10,820 --> 01:41:14,520 Referral, so all employees will be hired out through that union hall of referral system. 1017 01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:20,540 Contribution, all employees must contribute to that trade union's health fringe, pension, apprenticeship and other benefit plans. 1018 01:41:20,540 --> 01:41:24,960 and representation fees, so all employees must pay union, initiation fees, union dues, 1019 01:41:25,500 --> 01:41:28,620 or representation fees to the applicable union or council. 1020 01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,180 Again, these are what would be under a PLA. 1021 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:41,310 So the pros of a PLA, it removes union work stoppages or strikes based on labor disputes or grievances. 1022 01:41:41,910 --> 01:41:51,270 There's vocational training, so the trade councils often include a provision in which the member trades agree to assist with a training of district students. 1023 01:41:52,030 --> 01:41:57,770 And if a district decides to an intense utilize a lease lease back delivery method, which 1024 01:41:57,770 --> 01:42:01,790 we're going to talk about on the next board item, or a design bill delivery method, a PLA 1025 01:42:01,790 --> 01:42:06,610 will allow the district and contractors to more easily comply with new skilled and trained 1026 01:42:06,610 --> 01:42:07,550 workforce requirements. 1027 01:42:08,690 --> 01:42:13,270 Some potential cons, so some contractors may not bid on the projects if there is a PLA, 1028 01:42:13,450 --> 01:42:17,450 which can be more severe in a really busy marketplace where there's a lot of projects 1029 01:42:17,450 --> 01:42:19,790 that are that these contractors can bid on. 1030 01:42:19,790 --> 01:42:26,570 If a non-union contractors, if non-union contractors are correct regarding an increased burden on their benefits to workers, 1031 01:42:27,110 --> 01:42:31,930 their bids will be less competitive and that can mean more costs so the price could be higher. 1032 01:42:33,090 --> 01:42:38,450 Implementation of PLA will come at a cost to the district and sourcing an outside entity to administer the PLA. 1033 01:42:39,710 --> 01:42:45,470 So, our recommendation at this time is to move forward with to approve the Board Resolution for SBE, 1034 01:42:46,050 --> 01:42:51,970 which will make the district take concrete efforts in keeping local dollars again within the local community. 1035 01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:58,110 Due to the fact that the administration costs associated with the PLA were not budgeted within measure O, 1036 01:42:58,250 --> 01:43:01,510 they're not currently accounted for in the five year plan. 1037 01:43:02,170 --> 01:43:06,530 And to avoid negatively impacting the project listed on that five year plan, 1038 01:43:06,990 --> 01:43:14,630 we're recommending that the board temporarily delay any consideration of a PLA until hopefully a new bond is approved by the voters. 1039 01:43:16,230 --> 01:43:21,150 So, well, help have an answer any questions that you might have on this board item. 1040 01:43:29,980 --> 01:43:30,720 Thank you so much. 1041 01:43:31,500 --> 01:43:39,440 Do you have a sense of how we are currently tracking SBE participation in order to make 1042 01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:42,560 sure that we are meeting said goals established in 2009? 1043 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:44,160 I guess they're a mechanism. 1044 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:50,040 How do people, you know, register, are we using the same standards that the Department of 1045 01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:54,960 services, has for the state to register as an SBE, etc., like do we know what that is and 1046 01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:55,820 how we are tracking that? 1047 01:43:56,180 --> 01:44:03,700 Currently we're looking at what the district had in place back in 2009-2010 and we're looking 1048 01:44:03,700 --> 01:44:08,520 to see how we're going to activate that again. 1049 01:44:09,020 --> 01:44:16,880 At this point, there's no process, there's no solid process that's being tracked at this 1050 01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:24,400 time, but we are looking at it and seeing how after this is approved how we could move 1051 01:44:25,220 --> 01:44:33,200 this item along and ensure that we have a process to track these participation goals. 1052 01:44:34,060 --> 01:44:34,300 Okay. 1053 01:44:36,590 --> 01:44:42,270 And I think the other thing to just say for the record is that the reason that the 1054 01:44:42,270 --> 01:44:46,930 public contract code has the language that it has is because of Proposition 209, which 1055 01:44:46,930 --> 01:44:51,290 which explicitly precludes the state or any agency from being able to, specifically, 1056 01:44:52,110 --> 01:44:58,010 do average that is related to gender, race, ethnicity, et cetera. 1057 01:44:58,250 --> 01:44:59,970 So the only opportunity to 1058 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,820 We're going to do outreach has to be related to small business, veteran business, disadvantaged 1059 01:45:07,900 --> 01:45:13,980 So we're very, very limited in the way that we can do this kind of outreach to make sure that we are targeting 1060 01:45:15,480 --> 01:45:19,880 businesses and organizations that are in our community and folks that we want to be able to do business with. 1061 01:45:20,180 --> 01:45:25,080 So I certainly support being able to move forward with this initiative. 1062 01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,640 And I'm happy to offer any tools, resources that can be helpful to you. 1063 01:45:29,420 --> 01:45:34,700 And being able to help us identify, track, and get these goals and targets. 1064 01:45:34,700 --> 01:45:35,860 And 1065 01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:50,260 I can't remember if I'm remembering correctly exactly the resolution from 2009 may have actually explicitly talked about measure TT. 1066 01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:58,840 And so that is also, it wasn't necessarily implemented for measure O. 1067 01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:04,660 And so now that we're done spending the measure TT money and as we're moving forward. 1068 01:46:04,660 --> 01:46:11,140 So what you would ask about, you know, are we measuring it right now, but I don't know that that resolution was seen as applying to measure. 1069 01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:17,060 So let me ask this question then. Is the recommendation that 1070 01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:28,140 this SBE plan come forward specific to a bond, or is it going to be a standard sort of practice for all of PUSD in terms of how we do business? 1071 01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:35,340 Well, we're recommending is how we do business. Okay. It's not only applicable to 1072 01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:41,700 measure, it's how we conduct business, how we leverage our local resources. 1073 01:46:42,380 --> 01:46:42,740 Thank you. 1074 01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:50,420 So they might the plan be to, if there is a need for another resolution that we reaffirm our commitment to SBE, 1075 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:57,440 but make it so that it's now kind of a practice that will be applicable to all parts of our organization versus just a specific measure. 1076 01:46:57,440 --> 01:46:58,360 If 1077 01:47:04,540 --> 01:47:08,020 you can go back to the slide number eight, 1078 01:47:11,500 --> 01:47:15,460 key revision proposed on the resolution 2021. 1079 01:47:18,930 --> 01:47:19,510 Yeah, that one. 1080 01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:24,170 So I'm just trying to make sure I understand this. 1081 01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:35,040 So the current or the old way was sort of specifically favoring based on gender and minority. 1082 01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:36,140 That's right. 1083 01:47:36,140 --> 01:47:38,860 Wait, no, you had to write, yeah. 1084 01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:53,400 And then the new way is an emphasis on local and not using gender minority sets as a metric 1085 01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:53,920 at all. 1086 01:47:54,980 --> 01:47:55,560 Correct. 1087 01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:57,520 So the previous one. 1088 01:47:57,540 --> 01:48:04,440 You explain that, like, why it came out of favor and it might be misconstrued as, like, 1089 01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:06,820 not a good thing, so maybe you can explain it. 1090 01:48:11,820 --> 01:48:19,920 Yeah, we also have legal counsel here to answer more technical, but what we understand 1091 01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:34,180 is about ten years ago there was some cases that identified discrimination by using these 1092 01:48:34,180 --> 01:48:39,000 these groups as a means of increasing their business. 1093 01:48:39,380 --> 01:48:45,020 But we also have legal counsel here to be a little bit more technical in responding to your questions. 1094 01:48:45,220 --> 01:48:48,100 So I'll call on Glenn Gould if you guys don't mind. 1095 01:48:51,780 --> 01:48:52,080 Good evening. 1096 01:48:53,100 --> 01:49:00,380 So there was, as I believe you mentioned earlier, there was proposition in the interim between the Resolution 2021, 1097 01:49:00,820 --> 01:49:04,120 which was related to Measure TT, as you pointed out. 1098 01:49:04,980 --> 01:49:15,020 Prop 209 came down and Prop 209 said that you can, preferences based on race or gender are not permissible. 1099 01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,580 That's what causes this sort of change of direction. 1100 01:49:18,860 --> 01:49:26,240 We said these are great programs, these outreach programs, but we are just limited in what we can do given Prop 209. 1101 01:49:26,660 --> 01:49:33,020 So now we have to look at them from the small business perspective as opposed to specific. 1102 01:49:33,020 --> 01:49:38,460 like minority owned businesses or women owned businesses. 1103 01:49:39,020 --> 01:49:42,720 Okay, so it's more of a legal, legal conflict. 1104 01:49:43,300 --> 01:49:43,420 Yes. 1105 01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:48,040 Because the falling out of favor, it sounded more of like a 1106 01:49:49,150 --> 01:49:51,260 cultural thing, but now I understand. 1107 01:49:51,820 --> 01:49:53,320 Okay, thank you. 1108 01:49:58,830 --> 01:50:01,110 If there's no other questions, is there a motion? 1109 01:50:01,790 --> 01:50:02,330 I'm approved. 1110 01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:05,080 Second. 1111 01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:08,440 All right, student board member? 1112 01:50:08,440 --> 01:50:09,320 Yes. 1113 01:50:10,060 --> 01:50:11,220 On favor? 1114 01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,480 Passes 7-0 with one preferential. 1115 01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,900 I think going to move ahead with item 4, 1116 01:50:29,190 --> 01:50:33,330 which is the 2781 adopting procedures, valuing 1117 01:50:33,330 --> 01:50:36,290 qualifications and proposals for at least the SPAC contractors. 1118 01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:41,680 No, they're good evening again. 1119 01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:50,620 Board of Trustees, before you, I'll share with you a brief PowerPoint presentation. 1120 01:50:50,620 --> 01:51:03,440 That talks a little bit about the resolution 281 that talks about lease-back construction 1121 01:51:04,700 --> 01:51:06,300 project delivery method. 1122 01:51:08,420 --> 01:51:17,580 A quick background on this is due to the adoption of the robust five-year bond program 1123 01:51:17,580 --> 01:51:21,040 plan that the board adopted and approved. 1124 01:51:23,020 --> 01:51:33,540 We, in facilities, find it, find a need that we need to increase our tools. 1125 01:51:34,420 --> 01:51:41,660 Our project delivery methods are approved, project delivery methods in order to fulfill the 1126 01:51:41,660 --> 01:51:50,320 promised to our community and in order to fulfill and execute the robust five-year bond 1127 01:51:50,320 --> 01:52:01,140 program plan. On April 24th of 2024, staff and legal counsel presented to the Citizens 1128 01:52:01,140 --> 01:52:09,140 Oversight Committee, as well as on May the 21st staff and legal counsel presented at 1129 01:52:09,140 --> 01:52:15,880 facilities and capital projects committee, some information regarding this alternative 1130 01:52:17,210 --> 01:52:18,420 project delivery method. 1131 01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:30,320 As you may all know, there's three main construction delivery methods in California. 1132 01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:39,020 We have a design bid build, which is the traditional, which the district has used for 1133 01:52:39,020 --> 01:52:50,140 very long time. We've also exercised the use of the design build project delivery method. 1134 01:52:50,660 --> 01:52:59,260 Most recently, we used this method for the CERA-moderate central plant upgrade and 1135 01:52:59,260 --> 01:53:08,460 chiller upgrade, which was successfully accomplished on August the 18th, one day before school 1136 01:53:08,460 --> 01:53:19,540 starting. And last, the other available project delivery method is lease leaseback, which 1137 01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,840 has a best values selection. 1138 01:53:26,810 --> 01:53:36,870 The essential structure of the design bid build and the 1139 01:53:36,870 --> 01:53:45,690 very similar. However, the process and the engagement between the architect, the district, 1140 01:53:46,090 --> 01:53:58,130 and the contractor are very different, meaning one of the differences is that we can engage 1141 01:53:58,130 --> 01:54:25,450 a lot quicker, work collaboratively a lot quicker to ensure that when there's items or equipment that take long lead times, we have contractor to step in and provide some feedback, and even order that equipment a lot, a lot earlier to ensure that we meet. 1142 01:54:26,910 --> 01:54:30,470 the completion date or the proposed completion date. 1143 01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:42,470 The structure, this is the design build structure, a little bit different than the traditional 1144 01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:43,990 and the lease leaseback. 1145 01:54:48,060 --> 01:54:52,460 Just some statutory requirements on the lease leaseback. 1146 01:54:52,460 --> 01:55:05,980 This is a competitive election, so it's a process that does take into account competitive 1147 01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:11,240 or competition between our contractors and architects. 1148 01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:21,320 Contracts shall be awarded based on competitive solicitation process to contractor providing 1149 01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:31,140 the best value. This is not a low bid process. This is a best, best value process. 1150 01:55:32,100 --> 01:55:41,320 District can either do one RFQP or separate RFQP. This is a request for qualifications 1151 01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:49,500 and proposal or request for qualifications. In regards to subcontractors, the general or 1152 01:55:49,500 --> 01:56:05,600 The main contractor must competitively bid all subcontracts in accordance with the publication requirements applicable to competitive bidding process of the school district. 1153 01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:20,460 This basically means that the main contractor has to meet the advertisement requirements on 1154 01:56:20,460 --> 01:56:27,560 the newspaper and other periodicals when soliciting subcontractors. 1155 01:56:30,370 --> 01:56:36,650 A little bit more in regards to this solicitation of lease lease back contractors. 1156 01:56:37,470 --> 01:56:45,130 It does take board action to approve those contractors for a lease lease back project. 1157 01:56:45,630 --> 01:56:54,890 There is the element of request for qualifications or request for qualification proposals. 1158 01:56:54,890 --> 01:57:06,450 Those districts staff must follow a process and a criteria to ensure that there is competitive 1159 01:57:06,450 --> 01:57:07,310 selection. 1160 01:57:08,210 --> 01:57:13,930 Last but not least, the other element talks about public advertisement. 1161 01:57:14,830 --> 01:57:24,870 District publishes all notices of RFQ requests for qualifications in the newspaper and 1162 01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:26,920 in 1163 01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:37,260 There's elements of evaluation, selection, and board action, district staff utilizes a selection criteria. 1164 01:57:38,470 --> 01:57:49,820 District then recommends to the board, these contracts, and then there's board action that is taken based on that recommendation. 1165 01:57:53,120 --> 01:58:08,260 What we like about the lease back construction delivery method is that it identifies a guaranteed maximum price. 1166 01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:12,980 Again, it doesn't, it's not a low bid procurement. 1167 01:58:12,980 --> 01:58:20,100 So it may not be applicable to all projects, 1168 01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:25,000 projects where we see that there might be some complexities, 1169 01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:36,260 some additional ADA concerns, or if buildings are more than 100 years old, 1170 01:58:36,260 --> 01:58:44,820 than we are unable to really look at the current conditions or assess the current conditions. 1171 01:58:45,300 --> 01:58:50,540 This would be one of the options, best options available to ensure that we account for 1172 01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:53,360 those discrepancies. 1173 01:58:54,280 --> 01:59:04,440 So the least least back, one of the elements is there's one advantage what I mentioned a little bit earlier is 1174 01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:17,720 The contractor is engaged in a pre-construction services, meaning in the typical design that 1175 01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:23,780 build you don't have a contractor come in until later in the process. 1176 01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:32,020 With this project delivery method, you're able to engage the contractor a lot quicker 1177 01:59:32,020 --> 01:59:42,820 So that year she or the entity can really start addressing those concerns or those items 1178 01:59:42,820 --> 01:59:48,500 of the facility that may pose an issue. 1179 01:59:49,260 --> 01:59:56,820 And they could start working with the architect to account for those items. 1180 01:59:58,160 --> 01:59:59,760 Final price element. 1181 02:00:00,020 --> 02:00:22,700 When the project is ready for final pricing, the contractor bids for the subcontractor pricing, per the subcontractor procurement process, and so on. And then the lease leaseback contract award, the board approves and awards that contract. 1182 02:00:26,030 --> 02:00:32,750 Some of the advantages, which we touched a little bit earlier, is that the district has 1183 02:00:32,750 --> 02:00:42,230 As a choice in this process, the district selects the builder based on qualifications and not on low bid. 1184 02:00:43,430 --> 02:01:00,950 One time and within budget, on time and within budget, there's more certainty due to the guaranteed maximum price that there's a little bit more control over the schedule of the project. 1185 02:01:02,550 --> 02:01:11,410 There's also elements of collaboration and early involvement which I touched on a little bit earlier. 1186 02:01:13,650 --> 02:01:24,570 Some disadvantages, district personnel should have some experience with negotiating construction contracts. 1187 02:01:25,050 --> 02:01:30,670 It can be more expensive than the low bid. 1188 02:01:31,510 --> 02:01:42,850 And last but not least, a skilled and trained workforce requirements that could be also disadvantaged 1189 02:01:43,590 --> 02:01:48,970 because the project might come at a higher price than the low bid. 1190 02:01:52,370 --> 02:01:53,510 I won't take any questions. 1191 02:02:03,380 --> 02:02:04,700 Thank you for a presentation. 1192 02:02:04,700 --> 02:02:12,440 at the advantage of seeing this presentation committee, tell 1193 02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:17,780 me how other districts are 1194 02:02:17,780 --> 02:02:26,800 they also, is this sort of like a best practice industry, best practice, easily back, and I 1195 02:02:29,130 --> 02:02:34,690 guess what for the contractor, what is their advantage? 1196 02:02:34,910 --> 02:02:37,130 Why would they want this approach? 1197 02:02:40,180 --> 02:02:47,280 So, yes, it is a best practice, it's very common, and one of the big benefits to a contract 1198 02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:53,900 or the construction company is those pre-construction services, construction you all out smoother when 1199 02:02:53,900 --> 02:02:58,320 the general contract is able to work with the design in the architects before construction. 1200 02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:02,920 Oftentimes, without those pre-construction services, when you're in construction you can come 1201 02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:03,320 up with. 1202 02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:13,920 I'm not disagreements but challenges when the contractor is trying to execute on the construction documents that the architect has submitted. 1203 02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:19,640 So that is one huge benefit to a contractor of this delivery method. 1204 02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:23,960 Is that ability to work with the design team before the shovels are on the ground? 1205 02:03:25,540 --> 02:03:31,820 And so why haven't we been doing this already or have we been not so much? 1206 02:03:33,100 --> 02:03:39,620 Based on my knowledge, we have not been using this construction delivery method. 1207 02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:43,920 I may need to go back a little bit further to confirm that. 1208 02:03:44,620 --> 02:03:52,380 But based on our research in the facilities department, I haven't seen it as a construction delivery method at this time. 1209 02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:58,820 And lastly, change orders, so what is the impact on change orders? 1210 02:03:58,820 --> 02:04:03,880 because I know that that can go too crazy in the other approach. 1211 02:04:04,180 --> 02:04:06,700 So how is it affected the year in this? 1212 02:04:06,780 --> 02:04:15,840 So essentially, a great question, essentially the element of the guaranteed maximum price. 1213 02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:24,120 This is the biggest benefit for the contractor or for the entities involved, 1214 02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:38,000 involved is that there's next to a zero change orders when it's identified because of the pre-construction services. 1215 02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:45,740 There's a lot more involvement, a lot more information when it's taken out to bid for the contractors. 1216 02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:53,000 So guaranteed maximum price, that's the guaranteed maximum price that has been negotiated. 1217 02:04:57,140 --> 02:04:57,700 So 1218 02:04:59,910 --> 02:05:04,690 I can speak to this because in my day job, I've been doing a lot of work around best value, 1219 02:05:04,950 --> 02:05:08,070 which is the common nomenclature around lease leaseback. 1220 02:05:09,550 --> 02:05:16,010 And the state just changed the statute maybe a couple of years ago to allow districts 1221 02:05:16,010 --> 02:05:22,110 stay wide to be able to engage in best value contracting bidding. 1222 02:05:22,390 --> 02:05:25,650 So now that the service is available more broadly than it was before. 1223 02:05:26,130 --> 02:05:29,610 It does significantly minimize the opportunities for change orders. 1224 02:05:30,170 --> 02:05:34,110 It doesn't really eliminate them, but it definitely kind of brings it down in scope significantly 1225 02:05:34,110 --> 02:05:36,190 and also makes them much more minor than it is. 1226 02:05:36,930 --> 02:05:42,850 Given the scope of projects that are going through DSA, when you have that alignment on 1227 02:05:42,850 --> 02:05:46,650 the front end, it makes it a much smoother process with people all have the opportunity to sort 1228 02:05:46,650 --> 02:05:56,410 to coordinate and be aligned and be in conversation on the front end so that when there are modifications 1229 02:05:56,410 --> 02:06:00,610 or adjustability to be made, everyone knows what it is that they're having to be able 1230 02:06:00,610 --> 02:06:06,770 to calibrate to versus if I'm here to take, I design the plans, I then hand it off to 1231 02:06:06,770 --> 02:06:10,730 someone else and then they're like, well, why would I do it this way? 1232 02:06:12,130 --> 02:06:15,950 So those discussions get a chance to happen up front versus on the backing, which then 1233 02:06:15,950 --> 02:06:18,330 and triggers the significant change orders. 1234 02:06:19,070 --> 02:06:21,470 So for the most part, it does really bring that change order 1235 02:06:21,470 --> 02:06:24,770 process down to very, very minimal things 1236 02:06:24,770 --> 02:06:26,910 and it also brings on that cost so you can control it better. 1237 02:06:27,390 --> 02:06:30,350 Now, overall design build may or may not always be 1238 02:06:30,350 --> 02:06:34,110 the least expensive route, but it is probably the most streamlined 1239 02:06:34,110 --> 02:06:35,890 in terms of being able to sort of manage 1240 02:06:36,470 --> 02:06:39,350 the overall project timeline so that you have a sense of 1241 02:06:39,350 --> 02:06:41,030 kind of like where you're starting, where you're going to end 1242 02:06:41,430 --> 02:06:43,830 and having everybody be aligned and on the same page upfront. 1243 02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:44,990 We 1244 02:06:48,770 --> 02:06:49,670 concur with that. 1245 02:06:51,130 --> 02:06:56,030 Do we have any numbers on how many public school districts are using this? 1246 02:06:57,840 --> 02:06:58,820 Public school districts? 1247 02:06:58,820 --> 02:07:10,660 I try to do my research, I know all I could come up with, if I'm not mistaken, is over 100 school districts in California are using this project delivery method. 1248 02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:15,340 I couldn't identify the exact number, I took about two hours. 1249 02:07:15,340 --> 02:07:16,180 Is 1250 02:07:18,550 --> 02:07:24,770 there a project that we currently have on the horizon that we have this in mind for? 1251 02:07:28,860 --> 02:07:38,780 The facilities team is identifying several projects, a handful of projects that are listed 1252 02:07:38,780 --> 02:07:43,340 on the five-year bond program plan. 1253 02:07:44,300 --> 02:07:47,780 We haven't made any decisions because this is not an approved method as of yet. 1254 02:07:47,780 --> 02:07:59,240 So, we're discussing that and we'll further study that and we'll take the lead from our 1255 02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:10,840 CBO as well, but yeah, they typically involve the more complex the locations or the school 1256 02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:14,160 sites that have more ADA kind of barriers. 1257 02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:22,860 So those are the kind of projects that we would initially identify this project delivery method to be the best fit. 1258 02:08:27,430 --> 02:08:29,690 Anything else, or is there a motion? 1259 02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:41,070 Just to offer as an observation that one of our previous facilities directors really didn't like these back projects. 1260 02:08:41,410 --> 02:08:45,730 And so that probably ties into the lack of those projects. 1261 02:08:45,730 --> 02:08:48,590 in the district history. 1262 02:08:49,650 --> 02:08:57,810 Yeah, the thing that I always thought was interesting about that as an objection is when you're trying to do construction projects, 1263 02:08:58,230 --> 02:09:05,270 sometimes your barrier is finding the company to do the job. 1264 02:09:05,890 --> 02:09:11,590 And if a company prefers to do leases, backs up, prefers to do design builds and you only do one and not the other, 1265 02:09:11,810 --> 02:09:16,810 you're sometimes limiting yourself in terms of who will respond to your initial RFP. 1266 02:09:16,810 --> 02:09:24,470 So, I don't have a problem with adding this to the district's tool bag of things to do. 1267 02:09:26,470 --> 02:09:37,470 But yeah, my only caution to the full board is that having many, many, many years ago worked 1268 02:09:37,470 --> 02:09:47,590 in the construction industry at the general contractor level, it can having more than one 1269 02:09:47,590 --> 02:09:53,850 method can result in internal process changes in the facilities department. 1270 02:09:54,070 --> 02:09:58,510 So, if the director of facilities thinks he's got that down, then that's fine, but do 1271 02:09:58,510 --> 02:10:04,890 keep in mind if the district has a change over in the future of whose managing projects 1272 02:10:04,890 --> 02:10:11,430 that things can go a little later, so just keep it high in the future, and I'll move approval. 1273 02:10:12,710 --> 02:10:19,750 I'll second. Yeah, I have a question really quick. On your last slide, 1274 02:10:20,170 --> 02:10:23,050 where you listed three bullet points for disadvantages, 1275 02:10:24,530 --> 02:10:28,410 the first bullet said, district personnel should have experienced negotiating construction 1276 02:10:28,410 --> 02:10:31,390 contract. That's a disadvantage. 1277 02:10:32,770 --> 02:10:40,950 Yeah, if you have a fairly new novel employees into construction, they may not have. 1278 02:10:41,090 --> 02:10:43,910 Right, so my question is how are you going to mitigate that? 1279 02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:48,030 So we're already mitigating that. 1280 02:10:48,150 --> 02:10:56,850 We have experienced professionals, part of our team, that have a negotiated contracts where 1281 02:10:56,850 --> 02:11:06,870 where we've developed and hired and sourced our core PUSD team, 1282 02:11:07,970 --> 02:11:16,570 facilities team, and these are the things that we look for in these positions with the great help of our HR department, 1283 02:11:16,690 --> 02:11:22,330 where we're able to force these positions and making sure that they have the capacity 1284 02:11:22,330 --> 02:11:26,330 to support the projects ahead. 1285 02:11:26,990 --> 02:11:28,210 Great, thank you. 1286 02:11:30,790 --> 02:11:36,730 So Mr. Krosco and I started talking about this quite some time ago and we wanted to make 1287 02:11:36,730 --> 02:11:44,310 sure that we were ready with appropriate staff and that the board would be ready to listen 1288 02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:52,570 to a presentation with this much detail to make a decision and I do agree with what Mr. 1289 02:11:52,570 --> 02:11:58,530 Mr. Kirkaylin said about stability, but Mr. Carrasco has promised me that he's not leaving until retirement. 1290 02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:07,000 All right, we have a motion in the seconds. Our student board member, would you like to vote? 1291 02:12:07,860 --> 02:12:08,060 Yes. 1292 02:12:08,740 --> 02:12:09,800 All right, all in favor? 1293 02:12:12,140 --> 02:12:13,160 Pass the 7-0. 1294 02:12:14,340 --> 02:12:16,140 Ms. Kenny, I would like to move. 1295 02:12:16,340 --> 02:12:22,040 Oh, I was just, I'm going to ask if it was okay if we could move item N1 up. 1296 02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:23,020 Yes, please. 1297 02:12:23,920 --> 02:12:26,380 Is that, okay, I just want to have concurrence. 1298 02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:26,920 Thank you. 1299 02:12:28,900 --> 02:12:37,100 So, Dr. Chan-Hill, Dr. Canal and Mr. Robo-Karimi, N1, 2526 program and budget planning. 1300 02:12:37,460 --> 02:12:41,700 So, I just wanted to say that this is an accordance with our governance calendar. 1301 02:12:41,900 --> 02:12:46,820 That staff is sharing the plan for our 2526 program and budget planning. 1302 02:12:46,820 --> 02:12:56,360 I appreciate staff bringing that to us this year for our board policy and earlier than in years past. 1303 02:13:03,380 --> 02:13:08,280 I'm going to begin with gratitude for the humanity of this board for moving this up. 1304 02:13:08,340 --> 02:13:11,280 I apologize for the mask, but I appreciate the accommodation. 1305 02:13:13,020 --> 02:13:19,120 Tonight we bring together as a collective to you a presentation that represents 1306 02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:26,200 of word policy that we have had in effect that notes an annual planning process. 1307 02:13:27,140 --> 02:13:33,300 This process results in the presentation of a timeline for components that will lead 1308 02:13:33,300 --> 02:13:40,520 to the eventual budget development, all inclusive of our staffing and our program decision making. 1309 02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:45,300 So two statements from the word policy are actually lifted here. 1310 02:13:45,300 --> 02:13:52,180 What we want to share is that the context of this programmatic planning is truly about 1311 02:13:52,180 --> 02:13:57,780 the academic focus and core of the school district in terms of student need and school 1312 02:13:57,780 --> 02:13:58,100 needs. 1313 02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:06,260 So while it is a times considered budget development, it is really the essence of how we 1314 02:14:06,260 --> 02:14:09,900 allocate budget accordingly centered around our academic programs. 1315 02:14:10,600 --> 02:14:17,520 So our next slide shows an image that you've likely seen in other presentations that we've 1316 02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:23,240 done before, which demonstrates the alignment of the various major plans that we have in 1317 02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:23,700 the district. 1318 02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:30,260 Dr. Renoso and I actually work pretty heavily around what is centered right there in the 1319 02:14:30,260 --> 02:14:37,440 red, the LCAP, which I thoughtfully heard somebody say was the academic equity plan of the school 1320 02:14:37,440 --> 02:14:37,800 district. 1321 02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:47,780 So it is in alignment with PUSD Strategic Plan, which is the overarching document that guides the decisions that we make. 1322 02:14:47,980 --> 02:14:50,060 But the LCAP does get updated annually. 1323 02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:59,120 And within that, you see in the blue are smaller school and department plans that individualize those needs in a more customized way. 1324 02:14:59,120 --> 02:14:59,980 But all of 1325 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:28,700 All of that really speaks to the fact that when we think about planning, we think about program. We think about what our students need and how we set up those structures and supports and utilize the strategies, training, et cetera, to make all of this manifest and reach the goals that we have laid out. But when it comes to the specific items and tasks that have to occur annually and year round in order for those decisions to be physically responsible. 1326 02:15:28,700 --> 02:15:34,220 We involve our operational partners here in business and human resources. 1327 02:15:35,180 --> 02:15:40,380 So what you're going to hear about next are the specific details that go into this annual process. 1328 02:15:43,630 --> 02:15:44,410 Thank you, Dr. Hill. 1329 02:15:45,350 --> 02:15:46,870 Considerations for comprehensive planning. 1330 02:15:47,470 --> 02:15:51,390 This slide represents the interconnected nature of our strategic planning process. 1331 02:15:51,930 --> 02:15:55,890 So on the core plans, you'll see our various types of data and projections. 1332 02:15:55,890 --> 02:16:00,750 These elements inform our planning by providing insights into the student performance, 1333 02:16:01,230 --> 02:16:03,710 enrollment trends, and financial realities. 1334 02:16:04,530 --> 02:16:06,950 Student data is fundamental to setting our learning goals. 1335 02:16:07,330 --> 02:16:12,510 This information allows us to make program adjustments to better support our students and improve academic outcomes. 1336 02:16:13,130 --> 02:16:17,830 Accurate enrollment projections are crucial as they impact our budget assumptions and allocations. 1337 02:16:18,470 --> 02:16:24,250 These financial considerations ensure that our resources are aligned to meet the needs of our students and our programs. 1338 02:16:24,250 --> 02:16:30,590 Fiscal data, including the budget assumptions and allocations that you see directly influence 1339 02:16:30,590 --> 02:16:35,510 our staffing models, or approach to staffing is informed by the negotiated compensation 1340 02:16:35,510 --> 02:16:38,290 agreements and projections for future staffing needs. 1341 02:16:38,970 --> 02:16:41,110 The central plans are not standalone documents. 1342 02:16:41,650 --> 02:16:45,970 They are constantly informed and adjusted by the data and projections surrounding them. 1343 02:16:46,330 --> 02:16:50,410 The interest shows that our district remains responsive and proactive. 1344 02:16:50,410 --> 02:17:00,590 The interconnecting nature of these elements underscores the importance of the collaboration across departments, each department plays a critical role in the success of all the district plans. 1345 02:17:03,790 --> 02:17:12,570 So the next two slides are the timeline that incorporates a lot of the different components of comprehensive planning. 1346 02:17:13,070 --> 02:17:19,250 So it includes, of course, some important milestones with respect to the budget, the districts budget, the states budget. 1347 02:17:19,250 --> 02:17:33,510 It includes important milestones with respect to different statutory deadlines related to staffing decisions as well as of course most importantly when certain academic and student data is available. 1348 02:17:33,870 --> 02:17:41,190 So in a perfect world, we would have as much time as possible for planning and with as much data as possible for planning. 1349 02:17:41,370 --> 02:17:47,530 And often these desires are in conflict because data becomes available at different points in the year. 1350 02:17:47,530 --> 02:17:51,410 financial information becomes available at different times in the year. 1351 02:17:52,050 --> 02:17:56,130 And so it's often more art and science when you're doing this kind of comprehensive planning. 1352 02:17:57,290 --> 02:18:01,790 So the three of us have been meeting a lot with our, the three of us with our teams 1353 02:18:01,790 --> 02:18:05,030 and getting a lot of feedback, of course, from Superintendent Blanco. 1354 02:18:06,350 --> 02:18:08,630 And so this is a work in progress, of course. 1355 02:18:08,730 --> 02:18:13,750 We're going to continue to refine the way that we collaborate, the way that we incorporate 1356 02:18:13,750 --> 02:18:18,310 the needs of our students and the ultimate outcome in our budget. 1357 02:18:19,050 --> 02:18:21,550 And I'm not going to go through every single milestone that you see here, 1358 02:18:21,730 --> 02:18:26,850 but you'll see it includes a lot of different information about financial information, 1359 02:18:27,150 --> 02:18:31,510 engagement and, again, most importantly, academic data. 1360 02:18:33,030 --> 02:18:36,770 So, you know, there are different formats that this information can be provided in some folks 1361 02:18:36,770 --> 02:18:41,010 for process maps or Excel spreadsheets. 1362 02:18:41,010 --> 02:18:42,950 So this is just a timeline where, of course, 1363 02:18:42,950 --> 02:18:45,830 working on different ways to communicate this, 1364 02:18:46,050 --> 02:18:48,210 not just to the board, but to the public. 1365 02:18:48,310 --> 02:18:52,090 But most important than the format of the information 1366 02:18:52,090 --> 02:18:55,050 is the actual day-to-day actions that we take 1367 02:18:55,050 --> 02:18:56,370 to collaborate on this. 1368 02:18:59,030 --> 02:18:59,330 Any questions? 1369 02:19:09,940 --> 02:19:10,620 Mr. Cannell. 1370 02:19:13,100 --> 02:19:19,080 Earlier, the teachers union mentioned that our negotiations 1371 02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:20,540 were moved to October. 1372 02:19:21,080 --> 02:19:22,980 Is there a relationship between these maps 1373 02:19:22,980 --> 02:19:25,900 in our move to October and the negotiations? 1374 02:19:26,880 --> 02:19:27,960 To some degree, yes. 1375 02:19:29,320 --> 02:19:35,200 Obviously, when there's an agreement for a result in agreement, compensation, for example, 1376 02:19:35,540 --> 02:19:39,660 if there's an agreement on the table, typically that has to be taken into consideration during 1377 02:19:39,660 --> 02:19:44,300 the budget development, which if you look at the timeline, it doesn't really occur, begin 1378 02:19:44,300 --> 02:19:46,840 into the spring in terms of something that has to be developed. 1379 02:19:46,840 --> 02:19:54,600 So, beginning in October, in my view, it doesn't impede the progress that needs to take place in order for this to occur. 1380 02:20:04,150 --> 02:20:16,340 So, the timeline, like the last two slides, so that's sort of like a template, right? 1381 02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:26,760 And you said that a lot of those dates are out of your control, like student data comes available when it comes available. 1382 02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:52,240 Are any of these points sort of something, so of the things that you can control, are there any here that you can control and are there maybe additional targets or milestones that you strategically use to drive 1383 02:20:54,900 --> 02:21:00,620 your own goals or to sort of integrate. 1384 02:21:00,620 --> 02:21:06,680 these departments? What is the strategy? Is there anything strategic about this timeline? 1385 02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:16,420 If I may speak from more of a historical comparison, because I do think I'm actually the longest standing person here. 1386 02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:25,160 So I'm going to give an example that demonstrates the great partnership that we have with our two new leaders in these divisions. 1387 02:21:27,160 --> 02:21:31,960 Something that is really important for program and school planning is your staffing allocation. 1388 02:21:31,960 --> 02:21:41,920 how many teachers who anticipate that you will have next year so that you can formulate your master's schedule so you can decide which courses to offer because you can lay out the sections, how many students are going to be in each class. 1389 02:21:42,180 --> 02:21:57,160 These are all really significant, but it leads back to one data point that is really necessary. And in previous years where I've been able to be perfectly involved in that, we begin discussing staffing allocations with schools, kind of in early spring. 1390 02:21:57,700 --> 02:22:03,420 And now, when we look at this timeline and think how much that sort of backs us up into 1391 02:22:03,420 --> 02:22:09,480 a very frenzied time period that is a little too compact, the ability to have the option 1392 02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:13,720 to move that discussion far earlier in the school year is something that we took advantage 1393 02:22:13,720 --> 02:22:13,960 of. 1394 02:22:14,300 --> 02:22:17,860 And so you'll see that we are actually beginning to look at, I don't know that we listed 1395 02:22:17,860 --> 02:22:22,800 in this exact term, but our base staffing ratios will get reviewed in October, so that by 1396 02:22:22,800 --> 02:22:26,680 November of the year will actually be able to give preliminary projections. 1397 02:22:26,920 --> 02:22:31,400 They won't be final, but of course, it will give people a pretty general idea of what they could do. 1398 02:22:32,120 --> 02:22:38,140 Whereas in the past, we have done that after the new year, and that's a difficult time period. 1399 02:22:38,300 --> 02:22:42,080 So those are the sort of things that are within our control that we can look at. 1400 02:22:44,340 --> 02:22:50,580 What is the, is there a spreadsheet that does integrate all of these departments? 1401 02:22:51,300 --> 02:23:01,660 And it's nice that Mr. Bravo-Koremi is sort of new and fresh and new and coming in with outside. 1402 02:23:01,940 --> 02:23:07,200 I mean, Dr. Kunal is also fresh and new. Sorry, everyone is fresh and new. 1403 02:23:11,440 --> 02:23:21,280 But with open, you know, more of an open mind, open eyes, so just like to hear your perspective. 1404 02:23:22,800 --> 02:23:30,740 So first there is on the board website a draft of more of a spreadsheet that's one that 1405 02:23:30,740 --> 02:23:34,760 we've produced over the last, I don't know how long, but we've produced. 1406 02:23:34,760 --> 02:23:41,300 It says draft on it because we are still making changes in modifying to conform with the best 1407 02:23:41,300 --> 02:23:46,360 practices that the three of us make the most sense for capacity in the unified as well 1408 02:23:46,360 --> 02:23:48,060 as drawing from our past experience. 1409 02:23:49,020 --> 02:23:49,980 That was your first question. 1410 02:23:50,100 --> 02:23:50,420 I'm sorry. 1411 02:23:50,520 --> 02:23:51,960 Could you repeat your second question? 1412 02:23:55,160 --> 02:24:03,860 I guess I was asking about your outside perspective and looking at how we do things here. 1413 02:24:03,860 --> 02:24:10,200 So, I'm kind of a little repeating what Dr. Hill mentioned, but if I only cared about 1414 02:24:10,200 --> 02:24:15,020 the financial accuracy of our allocations, for example, I would want to wait as long 1415 02:24:15,020 --> 02:24:15,520 as possible. 1416 02:24:16,060 --> 02:24:20,840 I don't want to wait until the state budget is adopted, and I know exactly what enrollment 1417 02:24:20,840 --> 02:24:23,080 is, but that's not what's in the interest of our students. 1418 02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:30,160 And so, we want to strike the bounds between starting this as early as possible so that our schools 1419 02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:35,120 and you know, all of our different department heads have enough time to make good decisions, 1420 02:24:35,340 --> 02:24:38,440 to inform schools so that they can then in turn communicate with their stakeholders. 1421 02:24:40,500 --> 02:24:45,860 While also, though, on my end, making sure that we're, you know, there's certain contingency plans 1422 02:24:45,860 --> 02:24:49,860 if things change once the state, for example, adopts its budget. 1423 02:24:50,680 --> 02:24:53,000 And things are, let's say, materially different than what we expected. 1424 02:24:53,560 --> 02:24:59,680 You know, let's say in February when we're starting healthy to communicate a lot of this information to our schools. 1425 02:25:00,340 --> 02:25:09,940 So that's kind of a sweet spot that I think I've seen work well is providing as much of the information and allocations and staff and all that information as early as possible 1426 02:25:10,520 --> 02:25:14,840 but also as responsibly as possible but knowing that if things shift, we know what we're going to do. 1427 02:25:15,980 --> 02:25:18,860 And what the impact is going to be and then of course being transparent about that. 1428 02:25:18,860 --> 02:25:21,620 So that was kind of a high-level response. 1429 02:25:22,180 --> 02:25:24,520 There are of course a lot more specifics than that. 1430 02:25:24,700 --> 02:25:26,480 Like what about these positions versus those positions? 1431 02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:29,220 What about this funding source versus that funding source? 1432 02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:32,320 But conceptually, I think that that I think is 1433 02:25:32,320 --> 02:25:34,520 the most important consideration that 1434 02:25:34,520 --> 02:25:36,120 we'll be collaborating on. 1435 02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:37,860 Okay, thank you. 1436 02:25:40,110 --> 02:25:41,230 Is it okay if I go? 1437 02:25:42,170 --> 02:25:42,250 Yeah. 1438 02:25:43,130 --> 02:25:45,270 I just wanted to clarify something that was mentioned 1439 02:25:45,270 --> 02:25:46,310 earlier about the negotiation. 1440 02:25:46,670 --> 02:25:50,150 So we're in the middle of negotiations with UTP, 1441 02:25:50,150 --> 02:25:55,650 key, because we started in the spring, and so they had wanted to do some dates in September, 1442 02:25:55,910 --> 02:25:57,250 but we had some scheduling conflicts. 1443 02:25:57,410 --> 02:25:59,050 It wasn't that we put it off. 1444 02:25:59,670 --> 02:25:59,790 Correct. 1445 02:25:59,910 --> 02:26:00,290 Yes, ma'am. 1446 02:26:00,470 --> 02:26:03,230 And we did begin in the spring, or this one year. 1447 02:26:03,590 --> 02:26:03,770 All right. 1448 02:26:03,970 --> 02:26:04,690 Thank you for the clarification. 1449 02:26:04,790 --> 02:26:05,190 That is accurate. 1450 02:26:05,850 --> 02:26:12,610 I'm really happy on the spreadsheet that was attached to see the stakeholder engagement in 1451 02:26:12,610 --> 02:26:13,150 the fall. 1452 02:26:13,150 --> 02:26:20,290 That was something that our LCAP pack was interested in having our stakeholders understand 1453 02:26:20,290 --> 02:26:26,930 the district's kind of current status, student outcomes, and our staff's kind of diagnosis 1454 02:26:26,930 --> 02:26:33,110 of what issues they want to address, I think having all that background in the fall will 1455 02:26:33,110 --> 02:26:40,250 really help them have some context and give better informed feedback than when we go to 1456 02:26:40,250 --> 02:26:44,530 our stakeholders, sorry, educational partners, where's David Renney, we need him. 1457 02:26:45,950 --> 02:26:50,130 Give them that, when we give that feedback on the strategies in the LCAP in the spring, 1458 02:26:51,090 --> 02:26:57,050 I did have two questions on the documents that was attached, the draft. 1459 02:26:57,250 --> 02:27:06,090 It mentions an annual update on the LCAP in September, and I wasn't sure if that's for 1460 02:27:06,090 --> 02:27:19,370 Before the LCAP, I know we have to do contractually an LCAP update in February that it's not clear to me as helpful to anyone, but is that in addition and maybe that's just not a not final yet? 1461 02:27:19,890 --> 02:27:22,850 I wasn't sure if that was budget or LCAP because it says both at the top of the title. 1462 02:27:23,330 --> 02:27:23,970 Not final yet. 1463 02:27:23,970 --> 02:27:30,950 Okay. All right. And then as we're going through the budget advisory committee process 1464 02:27:31,490 --> 02:27:38,090 and considering how to implement the fiscal stability plan, given so in years where we're 1465 02:27:38,090 --> 02:27:41,950 not doing that, it doesn't really need to be part of this process. But will that get 1466 02:27:41,950 --> 02:27:48,150 incorporated and should it get incorporated into this so that we kind of have those touch 1467 02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:52,070 points are those steps, if you will, because it's part of this year's process. 1468 02:27:54,270 --> 02:27:59,010 So our discussion has actually been that what we are really presenting to you is the process 1469 02:27:59,010 --> 02:28:02,510 by which we would plan, that we would plan for the next year's budget development. 1470 02:28:03,230 --> 02:28:08,910 The Superintendent's Budget Advisory Committee obviously will inform that because we will 1471 02:28:08,910 --> 02:28:14,050 be acknowledging and recognizing particular reductions possibly, changes to the way things 1472 02:28:14,050 --> 02:28:14,330 will happen. 1473 02:28:14,330 --> 02:28:16,830 and all of that information has to reconnect back 1474 02:28:16,830 --> 02:28:19,810 into this typical process that is cyclical. 1475 02:28:20,770 --> 02:28:23,610 Since the Superintendent's Budget Advisory Committee 1476 02:28:23,610 --> 02:28:26,310 is really specific to the FSP's 1477 02:28:26,310 --> 02:28:28,290 that were presented in approved last spring, 1478 02:28:28,790 --> 02:28:30,810 its first duty is really to take care 1479 02:28:30,810 --> 02:28:32,770 of those already identified areas 1480 02:28:32,770 --> 02:28:35,870 where we think that we can kind of tighten things up. 1481 02:28:36,990 --> 02:28:38,950 That kind of information is also being, 1482 02:28:39,530 --> 02:28:43,310 the three of us are also, I can't say we're part 1483 02:28:43,310 --> 02:28:47,270 of the committee, we're not voting members, but we are meeting on a weekly basis with the 1484 02:28:47,270 --> 02:28:52,270 superintendent and the facilitators of the committee so that we are connected to this information, 1485 02:28:52,710 --> 02:28:57,370 they are going to actually codify that any decisions or recommendations that are made, 1486 02:28:57,670 --> 02:29:02,110 so that we can balance, and I know it sounds very silly to say that something that is 1487 02:29:02,110 --> 02:29:07,130 numbers based and has to be precise is fluid, but in that time period it's very fluid. 1488 02:29:07,130 --> 02:29:14,230 But I think what we've seen before for the timeline for the advisory committee on the 1489 02:29:14,230 --> 02:29:21,030 budget is happening in the October, November, December timeframe is still the intent. 1490 02:29:21,410 --> 02:29:24,170 The intent is for the recommendations to be ready by December. 1491 02:29:24,830 --> 02:29:29,870 So as you can see, that's why I'm not sure if you, because we didn't give you the comparison 1492 02:29:29,870 --> 02:29:33,390 for last year, a lot of these activities are actually moved a little bit further down. 1493 02:29:33,390 --> 02:29:39,850 not too much further down, because we still want to make sure that we have decisions early and up in the year, or early in the spring. 1494 02:29:40,270 --> 02:29:45,050 But some items are going to be moved because the recommendations won't come out till December. 1495 02:29:45,510 --> 02:29:48,570 So everything really is written as preliminary up until that point. 1496 02:29:49,910 --> 02:29:59,150 So I'll throw a plug in for an area that I don't know if we have time to look at, but if we did, it would be great, which is transportation. 1497 02:29:59,150 --> 02:29:59,370 information. 1498 02:30:01,560 --> 02:30:29,500 It's an area for our home school transportation. It's an area that has grown in cost quite a bit, even as we kind of keep transporting the same fixed number of students. But it impacts so many other things in terms of student placements, start times of schools. So if we're going to, if we're ever going to try and really tackle it, it is the kind of thing that has to be done this early in the year. 1499 02:30:29,500 --> 02:30:34,460 to be able to communicate to families, you know, your school to start time might be changing, 1500 02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:39,180 or, you know, those kinds of things. So, I don't know that this is the year to do it, 1501 02:30:39,200 --> 02:30:45,320 but some day soon, you know, I know that we have special education services on the fiscal 1502 02:30:45,320 --> 02:30:49,100 stability plan. It's a big expense that's in there. So, 1503 02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:52,590 literally noting it. 1504 02:30:54,010 --> 02:30:57,750 So, my question is simple. I'm looking at your timeline, and in November, 1505 02:30:57,750 --> 02:31:03,630 However, there is the social emotional and California Healthy Kids survey collection. 1506 02:31:04,330 --> 02:31:10,790 And then on the next slide, I forget there's another kind of school experience survey data collection. 1507 02:31:11,730 --> 02:31:17,390 And what I don't have a sense of is what is the turnaround time from collecting sand data, 1508 02:31:17,790 --> 02:31:21,610 being able to have results, and how do those results integrate into the remainder of the overall timeline. 1509 02:31:21,610 --> 02:31:23,830 live. Did you want to speak to them? 1510 02:31:25,210 --> 02:31:29,330 Great question. On the California Healthy Kids Survey, the fall administration is November 1511 02:31:29,330 --> 02:31:35,290 4 through the 22nd. And then we typically, it takes about six weeks for a turnaround. 1512 02:31:35,610 --> 02:31:41,510 So we have it about mid-January. And we've always provided an annual report to you for 1513 02:31:41,510 --> 02:31:47,090 that so that at the mid-year we have a sense of what's happening. What's different this year 1514 02:31:47,090 --> 02:31:53,090 for the Panorama. In the past, we've used a product called Review 360, which is an 1515 02:31:53,090 --> 02:31:59,170 externalizer, internalizer type behavior survey. And this year, we decided to collapse 1516 02:31:59,170 --> 02:32:05,490 that and build out the Panorama, which will give us a pre-identification of how students 1517 02:32:05,490 --> 02:32:10,110 are doing with the social emotional, as well as a spring post. So that'll be the first 1518 02:32:10,110 --> 02:32:15,150 time we've actually able to see growth with our SEAL. So we're really excited to implement 1519 02:32:15,150 --> 02:32:20,490 that they share and we've been building out the modules so that we can also capture certain types of behaviors as well. 1520 02:32:20,790 --> 02:32:25,610 So that our students can have support plans and have celebrations and goals that they're going to be set. 1521 02:32:25,910 --> 02:32:38,830 So hopefully by mid-year, but we do kind of intermittent time informal checkpoints with our students, but these are the formal ones. 1522 02:32:39,550 --> 02:32:44,170 Thank you for that doctor right now. So, and I guess the same question applies to the LCAP survey collection. 1523 02:32:44,170 --> 02:32:49,050 So that is happening in March, and when you're getting towards March, you're kind of near 1524 02:32:49,710 --> 02:32:53,590 the end of your process, right? 1525 02:32:54,230 --> 02:32:58,690 And do you have enough time once you receive those results to integrate that in and make 1526 02:32:58,690 --> 02:33:01,930 any necessary adjustments to your planning? 1527 02:33:02,250 --> 02:33:06,410 Yeah, certainly, especially I understand because the LCAP draft would be posted in April. 1528 02:33:06,910 --> 02:33:13,590 I think at the point of the survey for LCAP, it is actually to try to grab a broader, you 1529 02:33:13,590 --> 02:33:19,290 a wider range of potential feedback, but the educational partner engagement happening 1530 02:33:19,290 --> 02:33:24,290 in the fall, we think needs to be more personal and based around parent and group meetings 1531 02:33:24,290 --> 02:33:25,310 that are already occurring. 1532 02:33:25,890 --> 02:33:28,190 And so there is solicitation of feedback all the way throughout. 1533 02:33:28,310 --> 02:33:32,730 The LCAP survey itself is an open door for the entire community who maybe hasn't been 1534 02:33:32,730 --> 02:33:35,170 able to attend on these other sessions that happened earlier. 1535 02:33:36,710 --> 02:33:37,350 Thank you. 1536 02:33:42,490 --> 02:33:42,910 All right. 1537 02:33:43,070 --> 02:33:44,110 Well, thank you very much. 1538 02:33:44,770 --> 02:33:45,250 Oh, she does? 1539 02:33:46,170 --> 02:33:46,750 I'm sorry. 1540 02:33:46,950 --> 02:33:47,310 I missed it. 1541 02:33:48,350 --> 02:33:57,330 I was ambivalent about whether or not to say something because I've been looking at 1542 02:33:57,330 --> 02:34:03,690 the budget at the university level and there's a series of mandates that are unfunded and 1543 02:34:03,690 --> 02:34:16,330 that are politically motivated and that are most latest, most recent budget is we'll wait 1544 02:34:16,330 --> 02:34:26,410 until later basically this will wait until elections and so I am concerned about our timeline 1545 02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:35,970 and being in this position on an election here and how our budget will be impacted in 1546 02:34:35,970 --> 02:34:43,250 January once elections are settled and promises are going to the air. 1547 02:34:45,230 --> 02:34:53,190 So, I'm keeping that in mind and trying to understand that maybe we need kind of like 1548 02:34:53,190 --> 02:35:01,170 a plan A and plan B with degrees of how aggressive we have to be in tackling the issues that 1549 02:35:01,170 --> 02:35:01,670 we face. 1550 02:35:08,030 --> 02:35:09,090 Well, thank you very much. 1551 02:35:11,650 --> 02:35:12,010 All right. 1552 02:35:13,500 --> 02:35:17,670 We will then go back now to workforce housing and 1553 02:35:21,060 --> 02:35:22,660 is there a desire to have a break? 1554 02:35:25,380 --> 02:35:30,080 about seven minutes we'll come back at eight ten. 1555 02:35:37,180 --> 02:35:43,480 Now the public is back 1556 02:44:10,170 --> 02:44:10,390 to 1557 02:44:10,390 --> 02:44:10,670 order. 1558 02:44:13,100 --> 02:44:16,160 All right we're going on with item M5. 1559 02:44:24,940 --> 02:44:27,240 So our next presentation is on 1560 02:44:27,240 --> 02:44:31,460 the Pasadena Unified School Districts proposed faculty and staff housing 1561 02:44:31,460 --> 02:44:36,600 projects. I know you've received multiple presentations in the past but we 1562 02:44:36,600 --> 02:44:45,960 We're here with some recommendations. There's an item for your consideration for approval on the entitlement path that is being recommended. 1563 02:44:46,940 --> 02:44:56,240 So our agenda is to describe, to share with you the recommendations that come from the Superintendent's Advisory Committee on Workforce Housing. 1564 02:44:56,240 --> 02:44:59,980 So, first unit mix with a majority of 2... 1565 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:12,840 We have three plus bedroom housing units, the architectural style, which is a Mediterranean or Spanish revival, and most importantly, the SB-35 entitlement pathway. 1566 02:45:15,270 --> 02:45:30,790 So, just background, as you know, there have been multiple presentations and starting back in December of 2021, recommendation from the facilities task force. Then there was a feasibility study, and I'm not going to go through every item here, but then more recently, 1567 02:45:30,790 --> 02:45:35,530 only a advisory group on workforce housing was convened and has been meeting. 1568 02:45:36,430 --> 02:45:42,210 And you'll see the composition of that advisory group on slide four. 1569 02:45:42,950 --> 02:45:46,410 So of course we have two board members, board member Bailey and 1570 02:45:46,410 --> 02:45:50,550 Kay Halen, Bert Newton from making housing and community happen. 1571 02:45:51,210 --> 02:45:55,570 Jim Osterling from bridge financial advisors and Blair Miller from the city of Los Angeles. 1572 02:45:55,570 --> 02:46:09,350 We of course support staff, including Dr. Blanco, myself, Mr. Carosco, Mr. Dunning, and also our expert consultants, two of which, and our legal counsel, and Bruce Dorfman from Education Housing Partners, 1573 02:46:10,070 --> 02:46:12,030 Joanna Julian from Education Housing Partners. 1574 02:46:12,510 --> 02:46:21,010 Bruce Dorfman is here with us as well to answer any questions that myself and Mr. Carosco may not be able to provide detail on. 1575 02:46:21,010 --> 02:46:25,510 and Serine Abrahamian from Orbechhof and Henderson, 1576 02:46:25,590 --> 02:46:28,430 our legal counsel who's also here today. 1577 02:46:30,950 --> 02:46:35,750 So this table shows both the recommended unit mix 1578 02:46:35,750 --> 02:46:37,730 that we are coming forward with, 1579 02:46:37,850 --> 02:46:39,930 as well as on the right-hand side of that table, 1580 02:46:40,090 --> 02:46:42,810 you'll see the unit mix that had been included 1581 02:46:42,810 --> 02:46:44,370 in the Figs Ability Study. 1582 02:46:45,250 --> 02:46:49,390 Big change is basically the number of one unit 1583 02:46:49,390 --> 02:47:03,570 unit versus 2 and 3 plus bedroom units, so you'll see in the feasibility study there was an assumption that there would be 60% of the units would be 1 bedroom, 30% 2 bedroom, 10% 3 bedroom, and no 4 bedroom units. 1584 02:47:04,210 --> 02:47:12,590 What we're recommending tonight is more 2 and 3 plus bedroom units than what was included in the feasibility study. 1585 02:47:12,590 --> 02:47:19,770 So you'll see there, about 30% of the total units would be one bedroom, about 40%, two bedroom, 1586 02:47:19,950 --> 02:47:25,910 about 23%, three bedroom, and finally 7% for bedroom units. 1587 02:47:26,890 --> 02:47:33,610 So the recommendation, the changes since the feasibility study, the reason for the unit mix 1588 02:47:33,610 --> 02:47:40,070 that we're proposing is one to create more family housing for employees, so to have more of 1589 02:47:40,070 --> 02:47:48,150 units available for those with families. That in turn will mean potentially more students 1590 02:47:48,150 --> 02:47:57,610 at RPSD schools, so as more of our employees who are leasing these units, the multi-bedroom 1591 02:47:57,610 --> 02:48:02,310 units will likely have children and those children will hopefully attend our schools. 1592 02:48:03,210 --> 02:48:08,610 And then finally, they're still providing those lower price point one bedroom units for early 1593 02:48:08,610 --> 02:48:13,290 career employees. So we still have a good mix of meeting all those different objectives of 1594 02:48:13,290 --> 02:48:19,970 of course having units available for early career employees, but also those with families. 1595 02:48:20,650 --> 02:48:27,430 And of course, in addition to those and considerations, there's this important benefit to this 1596 02:48:27,430 --> 02:48:33,050 employee housing project in general, regardless of the unit mix, which is that more of our employees 1597 02:48:33,050 --> 02:48:38,090 will be living in the communities where they work, in the communities they serve, and of course some 1598 02:48:38,090 --> 02:48:42,350 some prior speakers mentioned, of course, some of the benefits of our employees living 1599 02:48:42,350 --> 02:48:42,850 where they work. 1600 02:48:45,050 --> 02:48:47,610 Next is the conceptual site plan. 1601 02:48:48,570 --> 02:48:53,550 So you'll see here also a different than what was in the feasibility study first because 1602 02:48:53,550 --> 02:48:57,690 there was those different, the different unit mix and what had been previously included in 1603 02:48:57,690 --> 02:48:58,610 that feasibility study. 1604 02:48:58,770 --> 02:49:03,390 On the right-hand side, there you'll see all the details of the number of town homes which 1605 02:49:03,390 --> 02:49:06,030 are in that kind of darker yellow orange color. 1606 02:49:06,030 --> 02:49:12,250 the lighter yellow is the apartments, there is a community building as well and that pink 1607 02:49:12,250 --> 02:49:16,050 which could potentially be for child care. 1608 02:49:17,250 --> 02:49:22,010 And so those colors kind of show you where the different types of units are but of course 1609 02:49:22,010 --> 02:49:26,890 even the, on the right hand side you'll see even the town home units have a different mix 1610 02:49:26,890 --> 02:49:29,570 of bedrooms as do the apartments. 1611 02:49:30,150 --> 02:49:35,450 So something I do want to note about the conceptual site plan that you're seeing here is that it 1612 02:49:35,450 --> 02:49:39,270 does assume that there's a street that needs to be vacated. 1613 02:49:40,150 --> 02:49:43,670 Of course, as we go through the development of this project 1614 02:49:43,670 --> 02:49:47,330 or the entitlement process, there is a backup site plan 1615 02:49:48,050 --> 02:49:50,350 if, for whatever reason, that street is 1616 02:49:50,350 --> 02:49:52,810 where I'm able to have that street vacated. 1617 02:49:54,030 --> 02:49:55,050 And then the other thing I mentioned 1618 02:49:55,050 --> 02:49:58,250 that's importantly different from the feasibility studies, 1619 02:49:58,270 --> 02:50:00,370 not only the unit mix, but now the inclusion 1620 02:50:00,370 --> 02:50:04,430 of those townhomes that you see in dark yellow. 1621 02:50:05,510 --> 02:50:08,010 Another change in from the feasibility study, 1622 02:50:08,150 --> 02:50:09,110 since the feasibility studies, 1623 02:50:09,250 --> 02:50:11,710 the feasibility study did assume that there would be 1624 02:50:11,710 --> 02:50:14,010 a utility easement that would be removed. 1625 02:50:14,210 --> 02:50:15,190 Based on the research we've done, 1626 02:50:15,290 --> 02:50:17,650 the work we've been doing with our experts, 1627 02:50:18,490 --> 02:50:20,050 that is no longer recommended. 1628 02:50:20,310 --> 02:50:23,050 We feel that this site plan gives us the best path forward. 1629 02:50:25,650 --> 02:50:27,770 Next is the recommended architectural style. 1630 02:50:27,770 --> 02:50:34,050 So you'll see here just illustration as a concept, the design of course is still in progress, 1631 02:50:35,070 --> 02:50:39,970 but it's the Mediterranean Spanish revival style, and of course we would always be using 1632 02:50:40,490 --> 02:50:45,670 cost effective materials that can be easily maintained moving forward. 1633 02:50:46,670 --> 02:50:53,590 Next are just some image board, these are again just concepts for some properties that are 1634 02:50:53,590 --> 02:50:56,810 in that style, that Spanish revival Mediterranean style. 1635 02:50:56,810 --> 02:50:57,770 So 1636 02:50:59,940 --> 02:51:10,760 next the entitlement process, so there was a previous presentation where we did provide information on these three different pathways, these three possible entitlement pathways. 1637 02:51:11,340 --> 02:51:16,980 The first was kind of a full city entitlement process. This is the longest process with no streamlining. 1638 02:51:17,780 --> 02:51:21,820 The estimates is that that pathway would take about two years. 1639 02:51:21,820 --> 02:51:27,660 It does include also a SQL review, so the second entitlement pathway was more streamlined. 1640 02:51:27,660 --> 02:51:33,300 It's expedited with some partial streamlining, so this second pathway would not have any 1641 02:51:33,300 --> 02:51:38,580 general plan amendment or rezoning required, but there is still that SQL review, and so the 1642 02:51:38,580 --> 02:51:42,420 estimate on this pathway was about 12 to 15 months. 1643 02:51:43,340 --> 02:51:49,140 What we're recommending is the SB-35 and AB-2295 pathway, it's the most streamlined. 1644 02:51:49,860 --> 02:51:56,440 This one is estimated to take six months, and the reason why it's so much faster is that there's no general in 1645 02:51:56,440 --> 02:52:02,600 plan amendment or rezoning required, and it's exempt from CEQA. And so not only is it faster, which is important, 1646 02:52:02,740 --> 02:52:08,260 we want this project to be done as quickly as possible, so our employees and communities can benefit from it. 1647 02:52:08,800 --> 02:52:14,420 But when it's faster, it often also can be cheaper. So that's an important consideration. 1648 02:52:14,420 --> 02:52:16,120 So that's what we're recommending. 1649 02:52:16,800 --> 02:52:20,360 We're very fortunate that these laws have been passed 1650 02:52:20,360 --> 02:52:24,480 that allow for this more expedited process for this project. 1651 02:52:27,330 --> 02:52:31,450 So next, these are conceptual rents by salary percent. 1652 02:52:31,630 --> 02:52:33,130 I want to stress the conceptual. 1653 02:52:33,850 --> 02:52:37,470 So what the board is acting on tonight is the entitlement pathway, 1654 02:52:37,710 --> 02:52:42,430 which includes again that the unit mix, the architectural style, 1655 02:52:42,690 --> 02:52:44,830 what's not being approved is the ultimate rents 1656 02:52:44,830 --> 02:52:46,530 that would be charged for each of these units, 1657 02:52:46,690 --> 02:52:47,670 but we wanted to give you an idea 1658 02:52:47,670 --> 02:52:49,490 of what those rents could look like. 1659 02:52:50,490 --> 02:52:52,670 So what you see here, there's a lot of data on this table, 1660 02:52:52,870 --> 02:52:54,090 but you'll see on the left-hand side, 1661 02:52:54,310 --> 02:52:56,210 the different unit type, so there's the one bedroom, 1662 02:52:56,510 --> 02:52:58,130 two bedroom, three bedroom, and four bedroom. 1663 02:52:59,330 --> 02:53:01,950 There's the quantity of each, again, this is conceptual. 1664 02:53:03,070 --> 02:53:05,170 But you'll also see within one bedroom, for example, 1665 02:53:05,710 --> 02:53:09,170 what rents might be set at for our employees 1666 02:53:09,170 --> 02:53:11,970 that are at the 10th percentile of income 1667 02:53:11,970 --> 02:53:20,270 for a PUSD employee, also 35th percentile, 50th percentile, 65th percentile, and 100th percentile. 1668 02:53:20,690 --> 02:53:22,130 So these are, this is again, conceptual. 1669 02:53:23,030 --> 02:53:28,170 So in this example, for a one-bedroom unit, an employee at the 10th percentile of income, 1670 02:53:28,470 --> 02:53:34,010 at the 10th percentile of our own employees of the distribution of their incomes, 1671 02:53:34,850 --> 02:53:39,150 the rent could be, let's say, $600 for that one-bedroom, and then so on and so forth. 1672 02:53:39,150 --> 02:53:44,630 So, for two-bedroom similar concept, we have different rents set depending on the income 1673 02:53:44,630 --> 02:53:50,410 level of our employees, and then for three-bedroom to same, and then of course also for four-bedrooms. 1674 02:53:51,350 --> 02:53:58,490 So, on the next slide, it's the same information, but in graph format, and so you'll see again 1675 02:53:58,490 --> 02:54:06,450 the one-bedroom, two-bedroom, three-bedroom, four-bedroom, units, and the salary percentiles 1676 02:54:06,450 --> 02:54:10,110 of the employees and the rents, and I really want to draw your attention to those dotted 1677 02:54:10,110 --> 02:54:17,430 lines for each of the unit, the bedroom units here, the one, two, three, and four bedroom 1678 02:54:17,430 --> 02:54:17,690 units. 1679 02:54:17,930 --> 02:54:24,250 So for the one bedroom unit, based on the research done by the team, the market rent for 1680 02:54:24,250 --> 02:54:26,710 a one bedroom apartment is $2,700. 1681 02:54:27,490 --> 02:54:32,750 And you'll see in each case, regardless of the salary percent, how that an employee may 1682 02:54:32,750 --> 02:54:38,790 be in, the conceptual rents here are below that, okay, so they're well below that. 1683 02:54:38,870 --> 02:54:41,190 In some cases, very, very well below that. 1684 02:54:41,870 --> 02:54:47,190 For two better units, the market rents are $3,500, and again, you'll see that the conceptual 1685 02:54:47,190 --> 02:54:49,730 rents here are well below that. 1686 02:54:50,810 --> 02:54:57,690 So I want to also mention that these conceptual rents, while I'm not final, they can change. 1687 02:54:58,250 --> 02:55:02,170 They do conform with the entitlement pathway that we're pursuing. 1688 02:55:02,170 --> 02:55:06,710 So that expedited entitlement pathway does come with some strings attached, right? 1689 02:55:06,830 --> 02:55:09,210 It's there's some requirements, some criteria that we have to meet. 1690 02:55:09,790 --> 02:55:13,890 And basically the most important criteria that we have to meet is an affordability criteria. 1691 02:55:14,110 --> 02:55:19,330 A certain number of the units have to be set at a certain rent that is affordable. 1692 02:55:20,950 --> 02:55:29,050 So these proposed rents, these conceptual rents, are far exceeding even those affordability thresholds. 1693 02:55:29,050 --> 02:55:31,170 those minimum thresholds that we need to meet here, 1694 02:55:31,450 --> 02:55:33,250 and they do exceed those. 1695 02:55:33,350 --> 02:55:34,410 I want to mention that as well. 1696 02:55:39,130 --> 02:55:45,870 So how are the affordability is defined? 1697 02:55:46,250 --> 02:55:47,470 And so here you'll see a table. 1698 02:55:47,910 --> 02:55:49,170 On the left hand side, you'll see what's 1699 02:55:49,170 --> 02:55:52,330 the term extremely low income, very low income, low income, 1700 02:55:52,490 --> 02:55:53,510 and moderate income. 1701 02:55:54,030 --> 02:55:58,570 And for each of those income levels, the actual dollar amount 1702 02:55:58,570 --> 02:56:01,890 that's the threshold depends on the household size. 1703 02:56:01,890 --> 02:56:07,510 So you'll see there on the columns for a household size of one person, two people, three, 1704 02:56:07,790 --> 02:56:08,790 so on and so forth. 1705 02:56:09,450 --> 02:56:15,310 So you really have to combine, so if there's a household of four, low income is at a household 1706 02:56:15,310 --> 02:56:18,430 income of $110,950, so that's how to read that table. 1707 02:56:19,050 --> 02:56:21,510 And the relevance of this table is this is what's necessary. 1708 02:56:21,830 --> 02:56:27,750 We need this information when we set the rents to ensure that we're complying with the requirements 1709 02:56:27,750 --> 02:56:29,610 of the entitlement pathway that we're pursuing. 1710 02:56:29,610 --> 02:56:30,590 So, 1711 02:56:33,040 --> 02:56:36,740 the actions that we're recommending, again, I mentioned this when we talked about the agenda, 1712 02:56:37,020 --> 02:56:41,740 but the actions that we're recommending is to proceed with the entitlement submittal under SB 35, 1713 02:56:42,440 --> 02:56:47,300 and that includes approximately 115 units with the unit mix that I mentioned before, 1714 02:56:47,760 --> 02:56:51,040 in terms of one bedroom versus two bedroom and three plus bedrooms, 1715 02:56:51,700 --> 02:56:56,040 and lastly, the Mediterranean Spanish revival architectural style. 1716 02:56:56,860 --> 02:57:00,120 There is an appendix in the presentation. I won't cover it unless there are questions about 1717 02:57:00,120 --> 02:57:04,380 those slides, but in the appendix, we'll see a lot more information about the site plan, 1718 02:57:04,600 --> 02:57:08,340 a little bit more details about what some of the units might look like, as well as information 1719 02:57:08,340 --> 02:57:14,080 on the salary distribution of our employees, and a little bit more information about the affordability 1720 02:57:14,080 --> 02:57:20,600 requirements associated with SB 35, AB 2295, as well as the city of Pasadena. 1721 02:57:23,050 --> 02:57:24,010 So with that, I will 1722 02:57:24,010 --> 02:57:28,910 pause for questions. Can we take the public comment? 1723 02:57:32,200 --> 02:57:34,200 Is that okay? Okay, great. 1724 02:57:40,050 --> 02:57:42,850 Ms. Sullivan, then Dennis McNamara. 1725 02:57:49,460 --> 02:57:50,660 Thank you very much. 1726 02:57:50,840 --> 02:57:51,620 Nice to see you all. 1727 02:57:51,740 --> 02:57:54,220 Appreciate the opportunity to speak to the board 1728 02:57:54,220 --> 02:57:56,080 and to the superintendent, so thank you. 1729 02:57:56,800 --> 02:57:58,820 My comment is, and I'm sure, you know, 1730 02:57:58,860 --> 02:58:01,060 I know that there's been a lot of positive comments tonight 1731 02:58:01,060 --> 02:58:04,500 about the workforce housing, which sounds fantastic, 1732 02:58:04,660 --> 02:58:06,340 and I just have a couple. 1733 02:58:06,660 --> 02:58:08,480 And I think we're gonna hear more from the presentation, 1734 02:58:08,480 --> 02:58:10,900 hopefully, and maybe some questions answered regarding 1735 02:58:11,480 --> 02:58:15,020 some of the numbers, and why it's pretty low density. 1736 02:58:15,020 --> 02:58:21,860 So, you know, the rationale on that, and I know I think what we just heard was that that was to receive the entitlements. 1737 02:58:22,360 --> 02:58:27,220 But to go back and re-entitle, it's on Mother Point in the future might be costly. 1738 02:58:27,460 --> 02:58:37,580 And so, if this is not the correct number of units per acre or a number of units, 115 units, then, you know, I think that that's something you have to really take a hard look at. 1739 02:58:37,580 --> 02:58:56,980 So that's, and then so great job, but I think hopefully the district will figure out a way to allocate those 110 units among the 2000 employees, which I think is going to be an interesting process, interesting to watch as well as managing and developing those units. 1740 02:58:56,980 --> 02:59:08,200 So I get from from my perspective, I think it's super important that you allow the developer who I think is here tonight to develop the project and possibly manage it going forward. 1741 02:59:08,420 --> 02:59:14,860 It's going to be a really big challenge for the district. It's not it's not easy to do. So anyway, thank you so much. Those are my comments. 1742 02:59:21,580 --> 02:59:29,460 I'm not sure I can do this, but I come from a world where organizational success, it 1743 02:59:29,460 --> 02:59:32,260 comes, you know, follows organizational focus. 1744 02:59:33,180 --> 02:59:40,240 And so I really appreciate the efforts that we're being made here and to work on behalf 1745 02:59:40,240 --> 02:59:43,680 of our staff housing, it's a noble cause. 1746 02:59:44,580 --> 02:59:46,060 It's just not the district's cause. 1747 02:59:47,120 --> 02:59:48,420 I truly believe that. 1748 02:59:48,420 --> 02:59:59,880 I think, again, while noble in such, it's not the district's mission, I really worry that attention, time, attention. 1749 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,920 Motion resources on housing while noble and valuable is not the district's mission. And it takes time and attention away from, you know, Dr. Hill's team, the academics, different people, I know, but it's focus. And therefore, I worry that we aren't going to meet the needs of the children. And that while this is, again, a noble mission, it's not 1750 03:00:29,920 --> 03:00:38,060 our mission. That's a philosophical position, and I think I'd like the board to think 1751 03:00:38,060 --> 03:00:45,380 further about that given that our duty is the education of our children who were not 1752 03:00:45,380 --> 03:00:48,380 yet meeting, so thank you. 1753 03:00:53,520 --> 03:00:54,680 All right, Yarmah. 1754 03:00:57,870 --> 03:01:05,810 Hi, everybody. Thank you for the presentation. I have a couple of comments. The first one has 1755 03:01:05,810 --> 03:01:11,110 to do with process because I feel like in the last two years we've voted so many times 1756 03:01:11,110 --> 03:01:18,490 approving this project and there has to be a way that we can stream like our work load 1757 03:01:18,490 --> 03:01:24,510 in a more efficient way so that we're not constantly voting again and again and again 1758 03:01:24,510 --> 03:01:33,590 and again and again on the same project so that is a reflection on how we manage work load 1759 03:01:33,590 --> 03:01:36,330 because it seems somewhat inefficient to me. 1760 03:01:37,210 --> 03:01:46,230 Okay, and I sincerely was not planning to be this counter to our public comment, 1761 03:01:46,450 --> 03:01:52,750 but it seems to be in the line that I've organized my argument because I 1762 03:01:54,960 --> 03:01:55,800 am an educator 1763 03:01:55,800 --> 03:02:00,600 and everybody that hears my interventions understands that my only priority, 1764 03:02:00,880 --> 03:02:03,520 my most important priority is student learning outcomes. 1765 03:02:03,520 --> 03:02:09,660 I am invested in student learning outcomes, but I understand the challenges of this 1766 03:02:09,660 --> 03:02:12,200 particular district, school district. 1767 03:02:12,500 --> 03:02:17,800 And some of those challenges have to do with a streamlining the way that we can afford 1768 03:02:17,800 --> 03:02:20,920 to provide those services to our students, right? 1769 03:02:22,020 --> 03:02:29,120 And figuring out how we can subsidize the spaces where both the federal and the state government 1770 03:02:29,120 --> 03:02:35,100 have failed us in giving us mandates to educate children in particular ways that they do not 1771 03:02:35,100 --> 03:02:43,280 provide our funds. The second concern I have with regards to facilities is how do we prove 1772 03:02:43,280 --> 03:02:54,220 to the people of Pasadena and gain their goodwill when it comes to managing or underutilize properties. 1773 03:02:54,220 --> 03:03:03,680 I think that that is the first step to having conversations about how do we limit programming 1774 03:03:03,680 --> 03:03:10,600 or look at schools or look at resizing any of those conversations have to start with 1775 03:03:12,230 --> 03:03:20,370 a conversation of what do we do by maximizing the resources that we have without disrupting 1776 03:03:20,370 --> 03:03:29,630 schools and communities and families, and that is why, in spite of being almost narrowly 1777 03:03:29,630 --> 03:03:38,310 focused in academic outcomes, I support this type of project because it helps us gain 1778 03:03:38,310 --> 03:03:44,450 the goodwill of what happens when we administer underutilized properties. Are we going to 1779 03:03:44,450 --> 03:03:49,230 to continue to accumulate properties throughout Pasadena 1780 03:03:49,230 --> 03:03:53,270 without a final or plan for them. 1781 03:03:53,510 --> 03:03:54,430 No, we have a plan. 1782 03:03:54,750 --> 03:03:56,150 We have a form and this works. 1783 03:03:56,590 --> 03:03:58,430 And this is how we generate goodwill. 1784 03:03:58,930 --> 03:04:01,350 Number two, the diversification of income. 1785 03:04:01,550 --> 03:04:04,390 Number three, addressing the issue of retention. 1786 03:04:05,390 --> 03:04:09,930 Because again, our ways and forms of making 1787 03:04:09,930 --> 03:04:16,930 are district desirable, are not going to be financially motivated because we cannot 1788 03:04:16,930 --> 03:04:21,210 keep up. We don't have the money to keep up. 1789 03:04:24,600 --> 03:04:29,420 So, we have to figure out alternative ways 1790 03:04:29,420 --> 03:04:38,320 in which we can motivate retention. And that's not to say that salaries are not an important 1791 03:04:38,320 --> 03:04:47,720 part of that component, but in anticipation of our challenges meeting the expectation 1792 03:04:47,720 --> 03:04:52,240 in that sense, there has to be other ways in which we become competitive. 1793 03:04:52,780 --> 03:05:00,780 And finally, we have in the state an issue of capacity in our all of the education system. 1794 03:05:01,120 --> 03:05:05,480 You can smell the desperation in the admissions offices, right? 1795 03:05:05,480 --> 03:05:13,920 And it's a bad look. It's a desperate look. Everybody has stickers and banners. And can I give you water? Can I carry your books? 1796 03:05:14,360 --> 03:05:20,600 We have a new service with administrators carry your backpack. Right? It's the you can smell the desperation. 1797 03:05:21,260 --> 03:05:25,320 And so in order to address that, we have to address the issue of affordability. 1798 03:05:25,320 --> 03:05:33,500 In the last ten years, my house has gone up 500 percent and my salary has not. 1799 03:05:36,770 --> 03:05:48,530 And so it is impossible for a person like me that has three degrees and my husband 1800 03:05:48,530 --> 03:05:58,360 who has several degrees themselves for two highly educated people in Pasadena to afford 1801 03:05:58,360 --> 03:05:59,440 a house right now. 1802 03:06:02,700 --> 03:06:09,120 And so, unfortunately, our mission transcends the issue of education 1803 03:06:09,120 --> 03:06:13,880 because we are now put in a position by our state government and our federal government 1804 03:06:13,880 --> 03:06:24,800 and their policies to be the locus of family services, mental health, community, affordability 1805 03:06:24,800 --> 03:06:30,120 housing and that is a decision that has been imposed by two school districts 1806 03:06:30,120 --> 03:06:34,240 because our moral imperative is always to deal with children and to address the 1807 03:06:34,240 --> 03:06:38,460 necessities of children we have to address all of those decisions and until we 1808 03:06:38,460 --> 03:06:43,420 as a society are able to put restrictions in that that will continue to be our 1809 03:06:43,420 --> 03:06:44,200 moral imperative. 1810 03:07:04,410 --> 03:07:07,750 So I have a question building on top of what Dr. 1811 03:07:07,930 --> 03:07:12,270 Velasquez said, I personally have known at least three of my friends who have 1812 03:07:12,270 --> 03:07:18,290 left PUSD because of unaffordable housing, so they have been forced to move into 1813 03:07:18,290 --> 03:07:24,550 cheaper housing and different school districts. I know that these affordable housing options 1814 03:07:24,550 --> 03:07:30,590 are available to staff. However, as an impacted PUSD student, I know a lot of other low-income 1815 03:07:30,590 --> 03:07:35,830 impacted PUSD families who would really benefit from these affordable housing. So my question 1816 03:07:35,830 --> 03:07:39,890 is would these houses also be available to PST families? 1817 03:07:40,770 --> 03:07:44,790 So, they'll be available to employees first, and part of the reason for that is because 1818 03:07:44,790 --> 03:07:48,910 how the project is proposed to be paid for, to be financed. 1819 03:07:50,650 --> 03:07:58,630 So, they'll be made available to PST employees first, and then if it's not fully rented by 1820 03:07:58,630 --> 03:08:05,250 PST employees, even though we expect it to be, then it can then be these two employees 1821 03:08:05,250 --> 03:08:10,550 of other school districts, then other government employees, and then finally to the public at 1822 03:08:10,550 --> 03:08:10,870 large. 1823 03:08:16,900 --> 03:08:21,280 Just can you clarify that this is an employee housing project? 1824 03:08:21,900 --> 03:08:22,300 That's right. 1825 03:08:22,480 --> 03:08:28,220 So it's an employee housing project, so it will first be made available to PSD employees. 1826 03:08:30,980 --> 03:08:32,160 Thank you very much for this. 1827 03:08:32,260 --> 03:08:35,560 I'm really happy that this is moving along so nicely. 1828 03:08:35,560 --> 03:08:39,100 and to the student trustee's point, 1829 03:08:40,240 --> 03:08:43,480 family housing has been talked about on this board, 1830 03:08:43,860 --> 03:08:47,400 and it is definitely the United States is moving 1831 03:08:47,400 --> 03:08:52,240 in this direction, much like we moved in the 1900s 1832 03:08:52,240 --> 03:08:56,100 to feed children because we realized they couldn't study 1833 03:08:56,100 --> 03:08:58,100 and learn if they were hungry. 1834 03:08:58,760 --> 03:09:00,640 So now nobody would think about taking away 1835 03:09:00,640 --> 03:09:02,320 the student lunch program. 1836 03:09:02,320 --> 03:09:24,860 So, I just wanted to point out a few things that Tony Thurmond did a study and they figured out that there are 75,000 acres of public school housing that can be developed into affordable housing and he wants to see 3.2 million units built on public school properties throughout the state. 1837 03:09:24,860 --> 03:09:34,160 We are doing exactly the right thing to the student board members, comments, homelessness 1838 03:09:34,160 --> 03:09:38,200 is a cause of students dropping out of schools. 1839 03:09:38,940 --> 03:09:40,960 So we will be moving in that direction, too. 1840 03:09:41,100 --> 03:09:48,280 And also, as I know some of my trustees say, our staff have children in our schools and 1841 03:09:48,280 --> 03:09:53,100 we want to make sure that they stay here, work here, and graduate from here. 1842 03:09:53,100 --> 03:10:05,200 So housing is a part of education in the United States, just like feeding children as public education can't calcify. 1843 03:10:05,520 --> 03:10:11,120 If it calcifies, it shrinks, and then we're filled with charters and private schools. 1844 03:10:11,120 --> 03:10:21,040 And then you've got this patchwork of education systems much like other countries, and there's no communication or cohesion of values and beliefs. 1845 03:10:21,040 --> 03:10:25,920 So it's important we hold the public education together. 1846 03:10:26,900 --> 03:10:32,140 And I love this, I'm just also wondering why the four bedrooms aren't in the board report. 1847 03:10:32,740 --> 03:10:35,380 It says two, one, two, three bedrooms. 1848 03:10:36,220 --> 03:10:37,220 The three plus. 1849 03:10:37,280 --> 03:10:39,420 The three plus, okay, I didn't see that. 1850 03:10:41,000 --> 03:10:43,180 We're moving along with the superintendent, 1851 03:10:43,540 --> 03:10:47,240 Terni Thurmond, and all of these legislators that have passed bills. 1852 03:10:48,160 --> 03:10:55,380 opening up public education for building houses, and we have to do this, and thank you for working on this. 1853 03:10:56,060 --> 03:11:15,660 Thank you. One thing I'm sorry that I should have mentioned that's on this slide. So in addition, of course, all the important objectives that we've all been talking about with respect to affordability and having our employees live close to where they work, the conceptual rents that we discussed on this slide would produce, again, conceptual, not final. 1854 03:11:16,780 --> 03:11:21,440 over $1.3 million in net operating income. 1855 03:11:21,980 --> 03:11:29,360 And so that would be additional resources to Board Member Velasquez's point that we don't, 1856 03:11:29,440 --> 03:11:32,760 we're not sufficiently funded by the state and federal government, but 1857 03:11:32,760 --> 03:11:38,420 this goes a small way towards improving the level of resources available to our students. 1858 03:11:38,420 --> 03:11:39,360 Okay, 1859 03:11:46,000 --> 03:11:52,320 I'm going to try to, I feel for everyone that said, you know, they're different sides. 1860 03:11:53,680 --> 03:11:58,420 Trustee, sorry, student board member, Trustee, what's your last name? 1861 03:11:59,600 --> 03:12:06,480 G, Trustee Chi, I thank you for speaking to this from the perspective of student body. 1862 03:12:07,380 --> 03:12:15,200 And I've said this at City Council before, where I say, if there is no housing, there is no public school system, 1863 03:12:15,820 --> 03:12:22,820 it's just, if they're not children, if they have nowhere to live, well, then they're not going to be going to our school. 1864 03:12:23,340 --> 03:12:34,120 But I also hear, we're in the, our institution is education, right? 1865 03:12:34,120 --> 03:12:50,800 So, yes, that is our ultimate mission, and I get what else the other thing I've heard is the idea of, you know, we're a school system, we're not landlords. 1866 03:12:51,220 --> 03:12:59,160 So, maybe you could speak to the management layer of okay, we build this housing. 1867 03:12:59,920 --> 03:13:11,920 What is our liability? If something happens on that property, who's managing that? Does that affect us, our premiums? 1868 03:13:12,060 --> 03:13:14,660 Like, can you elaborate on that a little bit? Anybody? 1869 03:13:15,580 --> 03:13:19,040 Sure. I'm going to invite Bruce to provide a little bit more color. 1870 03:13:19,300 --> 03:13:24,140 But when I said that operating income, that meant net of all of the operating expenses. 1871 03:13:24,140 --> 03:13:29,120 And some of the operating expenses that we would have on this property are the professional 1872 03:13:29,120 --> 03:13:33,740 property manager that would manage the property, of course, insurance cost, all of the other 1873 03:13:33,740 --> 03:13:37,360 costs associated with maintaining the property, but I don't know if there's any additional 1874 03:13:37,360 --> 03:13:37,660 color. 1875 03:13:39,770 --> 03:13:46,190 And I've said this before, where I've visited Santa Clara Unified's housing, I talked 1876 03:13:46,190 --> 03:13:53,950 to the tenants there, it seems to be working, so, but I know that out there, this idea is 1877 03:13:53,950 --> 03:14:00,150 new for a lot of people and they cannot wrap their brain around, wait, but you're teaching 1878 03:14:00,150 --> 03:14:07,090 you're educating not, you know, you're not landlord so can you speak to that concern? 1879 03:14:09,810 --> 03:14:20,170 And again, this will evolve as we go through the process, but the idea of as Simon was saying 1880 03:14:20,170 --> 03:14:50,030 hiring a third-party property manager having a, going back to specifically what Santa Clara unified did, they set up a subset of the board to be a housing board that actually dealt with hiring the third-party property manager, dealing with annual budgets and dealing with any sort of issues that come out of it so that frankly, the school district staff, the school district board. 1881 03:14:50,030 --> 03:14:52,110 or it doesn't have to deal with those items, 1882 03:14:52,570 --> 03:14:55,470 has proven to be successful over the past 20 years. 1883 03:14:57,050 --> 03:14:57,690 Thank you. 1884 03:14:57,970 --> 03:14:58,730 That really helps. 1885 03:14:58,850 --> 03:14:59,970 So the staff of the... 1886 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:28,320 The district does not have to do anything that involves management. Not in any, you know, regular concept, I mean, of managing an apartment community. So, your facilities people would not be handling the maintenance on the project. You know, the biggest thing that's actually a huge positive to manage these efficiently is the fact that. 1887 03:15:29,000 --> 03:15:31,820 The first priority is to house your employees. 1888 03:15:32,280 --> 03:15:40,340 By virtue of the fact your employees, you've already done a lot of this type of background checks that we would typically do for our residents. 1889 03:15:41,040 --> 03:15:42,540 So it makes life much easier. 1890 03:15:43,440 --> 03:15:49,580 Thank you very much and Mr. Bravo-Kareemit, sorry, I have to keep bringing back your experience. 1891 03:15:50,280 --> 03:15:54,960 Did you have any experience coming from LA, USDA on the workforce housing? 1892 03:15:54,960 --> 03:16:00,460 Yes, the district did work for housing projects that were successful. 1893 03:16:00,880 --> 03:16:14,240 Obviously, it's a much bigger district, a lot harder to meet the needs of the employees at a district with that size, given also the geographical spread of the district, and so one benefit of Pasadena is I think we're going to meet a substantial need, even with just this one project. 1894 03:16:15,420 --> 03:16:20,340 And then last one, so I'm trying to remember my conversation with the Santa Clara Unified. 1895 03:16:20,340 --> 03:16:23,560 I think, so I was talking to the board, trusty over there. 1896 03:16:24,200 --> 03:16:33,180 I think at one point, it was about there were more teachers or staff that had families, 1897 03:16:33,180 --> 03:16:37,640 which actually this address is because they had a lot of one bedroom units. 1898 03:16:38,400 --> 03:16:45,200 They couldn't fill them because a lot of employees have families, so they were, so, 1899 03:16:45,200 --> 03:17:00,780 So I guess if things, the proportions change as far as, you know, who are current employees are, there's more, you know, young entry-level teachers will, they're going to want the one bedroom. 1900 03:17:01,100 --> 03:17:04,740 So how do we accommodate those fluctuations in those proportions? 1901 03:17:06,050 --> 03:17:17,370 Well, I mean, once it's built, but I think there is a possibility for people to become roommates and rent it together. 1902 03:17:17,870 --> 03:17:23,530 So, and that is a common thing anyways in Los Angeles given the price of housing. 1903 03:17:24,070 --> 03:17:31,210 Actually, it's very common for first generation immigrants to have multi-generation care in our family. 1904 03:17:31,210 --> 03:17:40,530 So, you can be a 22 year old, that is responsible for your entire house, so you need a bigger apartment because your parents depend on you. 1905 03:17:41,510 --> 03:17:50,570 Maybe the committee can speak to how they came up with those proportions and how many variations of you. 1906 03:17:51,230 --> 03:17:55,850 I don't want to speak for the whole committee, because Michelle and I were just two members of it. 1907 03:17:56,690 --> 03:18:04,910 But it was a pretty common conversation amongst all of the people that were there, that 1908 03:18:05,970 --> 03:18:11,810 threefold, number one, we didn't want to get rid of the one bedroom units entirely 1909 03:18:11,810 --> 03:18:15,550 because there's going to be people who prefer to have their own place. 1910 03:18:16,430 --> 03:18:23,850 But as the CBO just pointed out, the advantage of having more multi-bedroom units is not only 1911 03:18:23,850 --> 03:18:29,510 can you put a family there, but also if you don't have a family to put there, you're 1912 03:18:29,510 --> 03:18:32,370 going to get somebody who's going to find a couple of roommates and they're going to 1913 03:18:32,370 --> 03:18:33,350 rent the place. 1914 03:18:33,610 --> 03:18:40,810 I lived alone for one calendar year of all of the years that I lived in Southern California, 1915 03:18:41,490 --> 03:18:45,050 and otherwise I had roommates and it was fine. 1916 03:18:46,810 --> 03:18:53,830 So that was a big, you know, if we have more of the bigger units, we can still put, you 1917 03:18:53,830 --> 03:18:55,490 if you have a bunch of really small units, 1918 03:18:55,890 --> 03:18:57,530 you can't do the opposite, right? 1919 03:18:57,910 --> 03:18:59,330 Without busting out walls. 1920 03:19:00,010 --> 03:19:02,150 So that was part of the conversation. 1921 03:19:03,510 --> 03:19:07,030 And the big one, I'm just gonna segue in my comment, 1922 03:19:07,570 --> 03:19:10,010 you can command the mic back if you want. 1923 03:19:10,150 --> 03:19:13,830 But one of the things that was a big deal to me, 1924 03:19:14,010 --> 03:19:16,550 and has been a big deal to me about this whole project, 1925 03:19:16,850 --> 03:19:20,230 I do want to acknowledge, I agree with people 1926 03:19:20,230 --> 03:19:23,690 in the public who think, well, you guys don't want 1927 03:19:23,690 --> 03:19:31,070 staff time spent on this. I think the design is such that we won't. I don't think the board 1928 03:19:31,070 --> 03:19:37,290 wants to be involved in setting rents for individual people. That would be not a good use of board time. 1929 03:19:38,850 --> 03:19:45,510 But the thing that I've been kind of pushing back on this question when I get it in the public is 1930 03:19:46,830 --> 03:19:52,010 people kind of need to make up their minds about what they want this board to do because 1931 03:19:52,010 --> 03:19:56,350 is they want us to use our property sensibly, 1932 03:19:57,230 --> 03:19:59,470 but then they always come up with a reason why, 1933 03:19:59,650 --> 03:20:01,390 whatever it is that we propose to do that, 1934 03:20:01,490 --> 03:20:02,530 well don't, don't do that. 1935 03:20:03,270 --> 03:20:06,630 That's not really your wheelhouse. 1936 03:20:06,790 --> 03:20:09,590 Well, our wheelhouse is providing school facilities 1937 03:20:09,590 --> 03:20:12,010 for children that are currently in the district, 1938 03:20:12,130 --> 03:20:15,850 and we have more land than we have need for, 1939 03:20:15,950 --> 03:20:17,050 for the children in the district. 1940 03:20:17,310 --> 03:20:20,590 So I mentioned this before, as trustees, 1941 03:20:20,590 --> 03:20:24,750 Our responsibility is to leverage the resources of the district for 1942 03:20:24,750 --> 03:20:30,670 the students that are here and leaving facilities under utilized and 1943 03:20:30,670 --> 03:20:31,930 paying for the maintenance cost. 1944 03:20:32,050 --> 03:20:40,070 That's something that's not even in the net is we're currently paying upkeep on the facility that's there right now. 1945 03:20:40,410 --> 03:20:47,770 We have to, when a bond passes, we have to replace roofs on these facilities that don't hold a house. 1946 03:20:47,770 --> 03:20:53,850 of students, it's a, we're changing a liability into an asset and that's the thing that 1947 03:20:53,850 --> 03:20:58,650 I say over and over again to the public, where you're saying you want us to use the land 1948 03:20:58,650 --> 03:21:05,210 more responsibly. This is turning a negative cash flow asset on the books into something 1949 03:21:05,210 --> 03:21:12,850 that generates funds for the district. Also, for years, we've been pointing out the declining 1950 03:21:12,850 --> 03:21:19,810 enrollment and the cost of housing and I remember Kenny recently pointed out that Davis 1951 03:21:19,810 --> 03:21:26,890 demographics has finally been able to update their projections based on the 2020 census 1952 03:21:26,890 --> 03:21:29,850 data because the 2020 census data is finally available. 1953 03:21:30,570 --> 03:21:37,070 And one of the sort of astonishing things is based on historical trends if we had just kept 1954 03:21:37,070 --> 03:21:43,950 going off the 2010 census numbers, we would have 4,000 more school-aged children than we have 1955 03:21:43,950 --> 03:21:51,490 after going through the 2020 census. Which kind of makes a point. I've said at these board 1956 03:21:51,490 --> 03:21:59,290 meetings, a little bit more clear, we can't just rely on the birth rate five years ago to tell us 1957 03:21:59,290 --> 03:22:03,830 how many students there are to capture here because people are being priced out of passing in 1958 03:22:03,830 --> 03:22:04,650 and they are leaving. 1959 03:22:05,130 --> 03:22:10,430 They have kids here, but they're a double-income family 1960 03:22:10,430 --> 03:22:13,630 in a decent-sized apartment in downtown Pasadena 1961 03:22:13,630 --> 03:22:15,470 neighborhood association. 1962 03:22:15,790 --> 03:22:17,670 And then when their kid gets to kindergarten age, 1963 03:22:17,810 --> 03:22:18,910 they're moving a glendora. 1964 03:22:19,170 --> 03:22:21,090 They're moving somewhere else where 1965 03:22:21,090 --> 03:22:23,610 they can afford to have more space for their kids. 1966 03:22:24,010 --> 03:22:27,210 They don't want, they get priced out here. 1967 03:22:27,530 --> 03:22:30,550 And if we don't do some, 1968 03:22:30,550 --> 03:22:42,070 We can't just wait for some billionaire to decide, angel investor decide to buy a whole bunch of PUSD property and build affordable housing on it. 1969 03:22:42,610 --> 03:22:49,830 And the city can't do it, they're contributing in many different ways, but that's not their mission either. 1970 03:22:50,850 --> 03:22:56,270 So I think that this is a responsible and main thing to do. 1971 03:22:56,270 --> 03:23:22,450 I think if we do it properly, we can show the public that we can produce this project, and it won't take the focus away from the kids, and it'll bring more revenue to the district, and then we can turn around and say, and now we want to do it again, and provide affordable housing on this site for students, or city employees, or county, whatever it is, the more housing we build here, the better. 1972 03:23:22,450 --> 03:23:29,230 So, I'm glad that we're still moving ahead with this project. 1973 03:23:29,590 --> 03:23:35,030 I really hope that the bond passes and we follow through on building this. 1974 03:23:35,750 --> 03:23:48,470 I think it'll be a real feather in the district's cap of showing the public that we can do good things with taxpayer money that benefit the students in this district. 1975 03:23:49,350 --> 03:23:50,390 I'll stop talking. 1976 03:23:50,390 --> 03:23:58,250 All righty. I have three questions and then I want to share a concern. So on page nine 1977 03:23:58,250 --> 03:24:09,710 of this PowerPoint, it says the selection of the pathway of SB 35 plus AB 2295. And 1978 03:24:09,710 --> 03:24:14,810 then it has an asterisk that says eligibility subject to qualifying criteria. So we determined 1979 03:24:14,810 --> 03:24:21,950 that we qualify? Yes, one to double-check. Okay, so that's not an issue, maybe great. 1980 03:24:23,110 --> 03:24:33,450 You talked, I think, about the vacating a street and changing the unit numbers, so I don't 1981 03:24:33,450 --> 03:24:39,410 remember when we first looked at the feasibility. Were we looking also at a project that included 1982 03:24:55,660 --> 03:24:56,320 Is 1983 03:24:59,620 --> 03:25:14,840 there a cost of the 115 that we're looking at versus the smaller, how does the cost change to us if we go forward with the smaller one versus the 115? 1984 03:25:14,840 --> 03:25:16,480 In case we don't get the, 1985 03:25:19,100 --> 03:25:23,160 I'm sorry, I thought if we don't get the street vacated, it had to be smaller. 1986 03:25:23,600 --> 03:25:24,460 Am I misunderstood? 1987 03:25:24,900 --> 03:25:32,100 There would be 102 units, I believe, if the street's not vacated versus 115 if it is. 1988 03:25:32,460 --> 03:25:34,180 Okay, and so we didn't see those numbers. 1989 03:25:34,460 --> 03:25:44,520 So, but can you give me like a ballpark with that decrease the cost of the overall construction, the cost of building it by like 10 million? 1990 03:25:44,520 --> 03:25:46,860 Maybe it's 5 million, I don't know. 1991 03:25:48,440 --> 03:25:52,380 I mean, we saw numbers for the projection of approximately what it would cost. 1992 03:25:52,600 --> 03:25:57,260 I just wasn't sure if it's still the same now that we've made these changes. 1993 03:25:58,520 --> 03:26:04,040 Yeah, we're updating those cost estimates, the projections, and can provide them. 1994 03:26:04,140 --> 03:26:06,220 But I don't thought my head, I can't say how much. 1995 03:26:06,700 --> 03:26:10,640 So before we were at, I'm going to say roughly 70 million, I think, okay. 1996 03:26:12,760 --> 03:26:20,220 So you provided all of the different meetings that we've had, and when I went back to the most recent, which actually was the, I think the May meeting, 1997 03:26:22,120 --> 03:26:27,120 there were the open questions to be addressed in the next steps. 1998 03:26:27,520 --> 03:26:36,500 And so a couple of these, and I don't know if we have answers on all of them tonight, were the applicability of city inclusionary housing ordinance and city income limits, 1999 03:26:36,500 --> 03:26:39,600 It's the historical status of existing buildings. 2000 03:26:40,560 --> 03:26:46,360 So the first one in the appendix there is a slide showing what the city requirements would be. 2001 03:26:48,080 --> 03:26:53,780 But if we do this, it means they're not applicable to us, is that? 2002 03:26:53,980 --> 03:26:55,420 Well, with a small caveat. 2003 03:26:55,740 --> 03:27:03,660 So by going through SB 35 using that entitlement pathway, we do need to provide at least 50% for low income. 2004 03:27:05,640 --> 03:27:21,320 The city is, we would be meeting most the requirement for the city, but the city also says 5% for very low income, which is kind of a layer in addition to the SB 35 requirement. So we would still be subject to that city of Pasadena requirement. 2005 03:27:22,880 --> 03:27:27,120 So would that look to us as we would do 5 to meet that plus 45? 2006 03:27:27,120 --> 03:27:29,200 Okay, we wouldn't have to do 55. 2007 03:27:29,520 --> 03:27:29,680 Correct. 2008 03:27:30,000 --> 03:27:30,600 Excellent, okay. 2009 03:27:31,120 --> 03:27:36,000 And I'm sorry, the historical status, is that something we're still waiting to hear from the city about or no? 2010 03:27:38,970 --> 03:27:39,410 Sure, please. 2011 03:27:40,170 --> 03:27:57,920 So, yeah, so the, the city, so the pathway on the historical designation is the, the historical preservation committee makes a recommendation to the city council. 2012 03:27:57,920 --> 03:28:02,740 Council. The City Council can either accept the recommendation or they can decline it. 2013 03:28:04,500 --> 03:28:14,320 And then the added wrinkle is we're not bound to accept the city's designation of historical 2014 03:28:14,320 --> 03:28:20,460 property as a board. So several things can happen. One, the committee can say we don't recommend 2015 03:28:20,460 --> 03:28:27,900 that this should be designated historic. They could recommend that it should be and the 2016 03:28:27,900 --> 03:28:29,600 We're not accepting a recommendation, 2017 03:28:29,960 --> 03:28:32,320 we're gonna go ahead with letting the school district 2018 03:28:32,320 --> 03:28:34,520 do whatever they want, or they could say, 2019 03:28:34,780 --> 03:28:35,920 we will accept your recommendation, 2020 03:28:36,080 --> 03:28:39,800 and then we can say, well, we don't accept your, 2021 03:28:42,220 --> 03:28:45,560 everybody kind of all has to agree that it's a historic. 2022 03:28:45,760 --> 03:28:49,260 Now, there are obvious political implications 2023 03:28:49,260 --> 03:28:50,300 of all of those steps. 2024 03:28:50,640 --> 03:28:52,300 So, I'm just trying to understand, 2025 03:28:52,520 --> 03:28:56,480 is there a defined timeline by which other things are happening 2026 03:28:56,480 --> 03:29:10,530 If, from what, what member Kellen said, it sounds like if we have the final vote, we can move forward because it doesn't, the rest of that is in material. 2027 03:29:11,070 --> 03:29:12,870 I'll let her answer that specifically. 2028 03:29:13,330 --> 03:29:13,450 Thank you. 2029 03:29:14,510 --> 03:29:24,530 So, just in terms of the current status, which I think the board is familiar with, is in mid-July the Historical Preservation Commission considered 2030 03:29:24,530 --> 03:29:33,390 and decided against calling for review of applicant Padres requests for designating the site landmark. 2031 03:29:34,370 --> 03:29:43,090 And subsequently gave Padres the opportunity if it wants to resubmit that they would consider again, that has not yet happened. 2032 03:29:43,490 --> 03:29:45,370 So I think that's the trigger for then. 2033 03:29:45,510 --> 03:29:48,010 What are the next steps that the district can consider? 2034 03:29:48,310 --> 03:29:52,570 And that, of course, there would be the process that occurs at the city level. 2035 03:29:52,570 --> 03:29:59,970 So the commission considers it and then it gets appealed depending on what occurs at the commission level and to the city council and then of course 2036 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:29,620 And of course, the district can assess its options at that point as well. And there are other things that the district can do along the way that we're still assessing and considering, um, to address the, if another application is brought. Okay. So it's, I guess I'm trying to place it on the timeline. Is it potentially something that holds us up? That's what I'm not really understanding? Hopefully not. Okay. Yeah. We'll go with hopefully not. And then the density, I think that was kind of mentioned in the public comment. 2037 03:30:29,620 --> 03:30:31,120 That was one of the open questions, 2038 03:30:32,540 --> 03:30:34,920 the density quieter under AB2295. 2039 03:30:35,000 --> 03:30:36,880 I think that was raised at the joint meeting. 2040 03:30:37,240 --> 03:30:38,980 So is that something we've resolved as well? 2041 03:30:40,060 --> 03:30:47,320 OK, and then so the, it was the density required under AB2295, 2042 03:30:47,320 --> 03:30:51,680 the 30-DU-slash-acre minimum maximum. 2043 03:30:51,940 --> 03:30:54,580 So, but if it's resolved, I just, these were, like I said, 2044 03:30:54,700 --> 03:30:55,560 these were just the open, 2045 03:30:57,840 --> 03:31:00,600 well, I don't know what the resolution was. 2046 03:31:05,260 --> 03:31:15,380 So a closer reading of AB 2295 just basically said that here are, they're not minimums. 2047 03:31:15,580 --> 03:31:21,180 There was a question from the city standpoint is this minimum density and it wasn't, it was just a guideline. 2048 03:31:21,860 --> 03:31:26,800 And so the density that we're proposing is consistent with AB 2295. 2049 03:31:26,800 --> 03:31:32,820 So it could be, I wasn't clear of the public comment was saying why aren't you making it more dense? 2050 03:31:33,540 --> 03:31:45,840 Well, and so the rationale for, to make it more dense, we're doing two things that we didn't look at more dense projects through the feasibility process. 2051 03:31:46,300 --> 03:31:54,860 Two of the issues that occur when you're building denser project is you lose open space, which frankly relative to the current 2052 03:31:57,180 --> 03:32:04,100 demographic focus would reduce the amount of area that we could have for children and families. 2053 03:32:04,680 --> 03:32:09,840 Number two is by making it more dense you create structured parking. 2054 03:32:10,420 --> 03:32:17,640 And so what we're trying to do is avoid structured parking because we incur a lot of cost for housing 2055 03:32:17,640 --> 03:32:26,000 cars as opposed to housing residents. And by doing that, again, budgets will increase 2056 03:32:26,000 --> 03:32:32,840 somewhere between 30 and 50,000 dollars per structured parking space. And we want to 2057 03:32:32,840 --> 03:32:34,420 avoid that cost if possible. 2058 03:32:35,380 --> 03:32:41,880 Okay. And then vacating the housing app. Is that on a timeline? Is that a decision? 2059 03:32:41,880 --> 03:32:48,700 We're working with the city on that right now, and we've had some substantive conversations about 2060 03:32:49,640 --> 03:32:51,460 that process and 2061 03:32:52,140 --> 03:32:57,980 The city is doing some homework as well. Okay, all right, so that one that one is still open 2062 03:32:57,980 --> 03:33:03,120 But everything else it sounds like pretty well, but then we make our decisions tonight 2063 03:33:04,600 --> 03:33:11,680 The last thing I wanted to raise was about the net operating income and so back when we 2064 03:33:11,880 --> 03:33:16,340 had the feasibility study, the beautiful documents from, 2065 03:33:16,660 --> 03:33:18,640 I think it was actually from last June. 2066 03:33:20,060 --> 03:33:24,820 In those proposals, I think one of the lowest annual net 2067 03:33:24,820 --> 03:33:27,540 operating costs was about 2.37 million. 2068 03:33:29,900 --> 03:33:33,900 It looks like as we've moved to, and at that point, 2069 03:33:34,040 --> 03:33:36,480 SB-35 wasn't in the feasibility study. 2070 03:33:36,700 --> 03:33:39,300 It looks as though when we moved to SB-35, 2071 03:33:39,300 --> 03:33:48,200 And then internally also decided to lower our rents, and it sounds like we increased some of our estimates of cost. 2072 03:33:48,700 --> 03:33:53,980 So now we've gone to the 1.37 net operating income annually. 2073 03:33:54,740 --> 03:34:02,880 I did want to say for Mr. Rambo community's information that when we approved this project in March, 2074 03:34:02,880 --> 03:34:11,900 We did say that the income would be used for facilities projects, not just we didn't leave it as it's just open-ended, 2075 03:34:12,060 --> 03:34:18,900 general fund, use it for whatever, because as we're going to the taxpayers and saying please let us, you know, 2076 03:34:19,000 --> 03:34:27,160 we're going to use approximately 70 million of your dollars and interest and have you, you know, pay that back over 30 years, 2077 03:34:27,160 --> 03:34:34,180 that that pass through ability of saying at the same time we're getting this revenue that we will also be using on facilities. 2078 03:34:34,660 --> 03:34:42,800 So your money as you're paying your taxes is really still going for the purpose that when you approve a bond it's going for. 2079 03:34:43,420 --> 03:34:54,480 I guess my inclination would be to want to move back closer to that 2.37 than the 1.37. 2080 03:34:56,960 --> 03:35:04,940 I mean, I understand that SB-35 saves us six to nine months, rather than the 2295. 2081 03:35:06,060 --> 03:35:11,180 So again, I'm just, I want to be mindful that as we're trying to pass this bond and we're 2082 03:35:11,180 --> 03:35:17,280 trying to make sure that this is an attractive proposition to our taxpayers, you know, I was 2083 03:35:17,800 --> 03:35:21,700 thinking we would be able to hit the 2 million net operating income. 2084 03:35:21,700 --> 03:35:28,220 It doesn't sound like we might get there, but I'm the 1.37 took me a back a little bit because I- 2085 03:35:28,220 --> 03:35:29,820 It's illustrative, it's illustrative, right? 2086 03:35:30,020 --> 03:35:34,660 So as I mentioned, it's not something the board is taking action on tonight. 2087 03:35:35,200 --> 03:35:40,580 It's meant to demonstrate that even by setting the rents quite a bit lower than what's required 2088 03:35:40,580 --> 03:35:49,160 under SB 35 and even lower than what the market rents are, it still produces 1.3 million dollars of net operating income. 2089 03:35:49,160 --> 03:35:55,720 So it's not a final number certainly, though I understand, you know, wanting to compare it to what was in the feasibility study. 2090 03:35:56,080 --> 03:36:03,300 Well, I understand. And here's what I'll say is when I said, well, what if we really just had two rent points? 2091 03:36:03,680 --> 03:36:12,360 And one was actually 70% of market and the other was the max, you know, the limits I think they were in the appendix. 2092 03:36:12,360 --> 03:36:17,300 It didn't really raise the rents very much for this. 2093 03:36:18,020 --> 03:36:23,920 It's really moving from the 30 percent that was in the feasibility to the 50 percent. 2094 03:36:24,340 --> 03:36:28,560 And later on top, our decision perhaps to have it even lower. 2095 03:36:29,160 --> 03:36:35,380 So that hinges does hinge tonight in the fact that we're choosing SB 35 versus not choosing 2096 03:36:35,380 --> 03:36:35,620 it. 2097 03:36:35,620 --> 03:36:42,760 So, I don't know that I'm saying we shouldn't do that tonight, but I just want to be mindful 2098 03:36:42,760 --> 03:36:48,300 of having as much revenue as we can that's being then spent on facilities. 2099 03:36:50,720 --> 03:36:56,480 So I just 2100 03:37:09,690 --> 03:37:13,130 want to say that schools 2101 03:37:15,530 --> 03:37:20,770 are the centers of our communities and they're also one 2102 03:37:20,770 --> 03:37:32,090 of the like bedrock entities that upholds democracy, so while in its purest sense housing 2103 03:37:32,090 --> 03:37:38,070 may not appear to be directly aligned with our mission, it's aptly vital to our mission. 2104 03:37:39,110 --> 03:37:45,930 And if in building community our goal is to try to create stability, create an opportunity 2105 03:37:45,930 --> 03:37:51,530 you can provide a service to people and also create safety which comes from having stable 2106 03:37:51,530 --> 03:37:57,850 communities, then we need to be on the right side of this trend of building housing. 2107 03:38:00,610 --> 03:38:09,230 In addition to the way in which Josie Velasquez laid out the ways that schools are having 2108 03:38:09,230 --> 03:38:14,650 to do more in terms of the role we're taking in educating our students. 2109 03:38:15,690 --> 03:38:20,770 One of those things is demonstrated in the community schools model that is being funded 2110 03:38:20,770 --> 03:38:26,270 at the state level, that is providing opportunities for schools to provide additional services 2111 03:38:26,750 --> 03:38:30,330 to students in and outside of the classroom. 2112 03:38:31,070 --> 03:38:34,570 And us being able to, as a district we had to provide housing is just one of those things 2113 03:38:34,570 --> 03:38:38,370 that will blend itself to strengthening that community school's model. 2114 03:38:39,650 --> 03:38:50,890 I will say that I am a huge fan of Spanish meta-training architecture, however, the site 2115 03:38:50,890 --> 03:38:55,950 that we are identified to build this housing on does not have any of that sell architecture 2116 03:38:55,950 --> 03:38:56,670 in its neighborhood. 2117 03:38:57,470 --> 03:39:01,890 And I think that we will run into significant robots on the design review committee if we do 2118 03:39:01,890 --> 03:39:12,690 We do not consider a craftsman-style architecture for being able to have this project move forward with the greatest amount of expedition. 2119 03:39:13,830 --> 03:39:23,010 Again, my personal preference is the Mediterranean, but I think that if we want to be able to have minimal delay, minimal criticism, feedback, etc. 2120 03:39:23,630 --> 03:39:29,190 In terms of the design aligning with the aesthetic of that particular community, 2121 03:39:29,850 --> 03:39:32,470 I think we should strongly consider another self-architecture. 2122 03:39:44,660 --> 03:39:45,580 Point will take. 2123 03:39:47,810 --> 03:39:49,170 I think that should be our plan B. 2124 03:39:52,980 --> 03:39:55,380 I know how that is, I have to deal with them. 2125 03:39:55,800 --> 03:39:58,300 So I just want to say a few things really quick. 2126 03:39:58,780 --> 03:40:03,500 Thank you for all of your work, it's been a pleasure meeting in the committee. 2127 03:40:04,780 --> 03:40:16,360 So I want to go back to one of Board Member Alaska's concerns about the number of times 2128 03:40:16,360 --> 03:40:18,620 that we keep bringing the same issue before the Board. 2129 03:40:19,380 --> 03:40:28,580 And I just, I want you to understand that this is a process and it's not technically we're 2130 03:40:28,580 --> 03:40:29,980 not bringing the same issue. 2131 03:40:29,980 --> 03:40:35,100 where we're coming forward to the board as we move through this process, 2132 03:40:35,260 --> 03:40:41,960 either to update you or for you to approve us moving to the next step. 2133 03:40:42,540 --> 03:40:44,720 So here's the thing though, if you want that to go away, 2134 03:40:45,320 --> 03:40:50,620 just make a motion that, you know, we just do what we got to do 2135 03:40:50,620 --> 03:40:54,360 and just keep moving forward and bring the finished product to you 2136 03:40:54,360 --> 03:40:57,520 and then you won't have to go through all these approvals. 2137 03:40:59,700 --> 03:41:12,480 So the other point that I want to raise is this notion that, you know, we are not in housing business, we're in the education business. 2138 03:41:13,080 --> 03:41:19,660 And I think, you know, a few of my colleagues here on the board have already done a great job addressing it. 2139 03:41:19,660 --> 03:41:26,720 But one of the things that I want to say that well, hopefully resonate with everyone is 2140 03:41:26,720 --> 03:41:34,520 that the whole purpose of the third party management company is to separate the two entities. 2141 03:41:36,240 --> 03:41:46,700 As a matter of fact, I'm hoping that the school board, actually after we get through this point 2142 03:41:46,700 --> 03:41:55,680 and everything is established that we actually have nothing to do with that housing piece that a foundation 2143 03:41:55,680 --> 03:42:03,560 and extension of the school district will be established to manage all of that and they will have their own board 2144 03:42:03,560 --> 03:42:11,640 so that we don't have to get mixed up in that as well as their own staff and their own 2145 03:42:11,640 --> 03:42:23,190 and relationship with facilities to make sure that the funding and the funds get to where 2146 03:42:23,190 --> 03:42:24,190 they need to get to. 2147 03:42:25,610 --> 03:42:31,510 And then one of the final things that I want to say is that it 2148 03:42:35,510 --> 03:42:40,720 is to Board Member Marshall's 2149 03:42:40,720 --> 03:43:02,830 It is important that we do our jobs here today in this 21st century, moving things 2150 03:43:02,830 --> 03:43:06,590 forward for public education, which is evolving. 2151 03:43:06,590 --> 03:43:17,350 And just as you and I, those of us who went to school in the 60s and 70s and 80s, we learned 2152 03:43:17,350 --> 03:43:23,310 how to do division a completely different way from the way they do division today. 2153 03:43:24,870 --> 03:43:31,670 It's the same with what's happening in society regarding housing, which is why more and 2154 03:43:31,670 --> 03:43:39,570 more school districts around the country and throughout up and down the state of California are getting into the housing business. 2155 03:43:40,210 --> 03:43:50,910 Unfortunately, that's just the way we have to go in order to stay relative as a public entity. 2156 03:43:54,970 --> 03:44:06,750 So, I'm hoping that you don't feel put down or, I don't know what word to use, as people 2157 03:44:06,750 --> 03:44:14,050 come to you with those kind of notions that this is the wrong thing for the public school 2158 03:44:14,050 --> 03:44:17,310 to be doing, you guys should not be building housing. 2159 03:44:17,310 --> 03:44:25,290 housing, it is important that we build houses to house families and our employees have families 2160 03:44:25,600 --> 03:44:33,230 and they are interested in willing and wanting to see a project like this happen. 2161 03:44:34,010 --> 03:44:43,390 And I am hoping that the laws will change to be such so that we can, it's in some day 2162 03:44:43,390 --> 03:44:51,470 We feel housing for our families as well because we know that there's a need there. 2163 03:44:52,210 --> 03:44:59,970 So, and I just want to commend Dr. Monkel and her staff for all the work. 2164 03:45:06,160 --> 03:45:28,120 It's been a long time coming. So I feel like we're at the front door. So just thank you all. Oh, did I say what? I know punitive exactly. But I, you know, it's still just overwhelming to me to really be a part of this idea. 2165 03:45:29,780 --> 03:45:38,600 this whole process so I just really, I think my colleagues and I just think 2166 03:45:38,600 --> 03:45:45,260 everybody for this because I mean this is the idea that I just put out there in 2167 03:45:45,260 --> 03:45:53,760 2017 and now to see it you know grow legs and feet and you know the whole body's 2168 03:45:53,760 --> 03:45:57,660 almost complete, so I'm excited, so thank you. 2169 03:46:01,750 --> 03:46:03,710 I just have two real brief things. 2170 03:46:04,190 --> 03:46:06,790 I just want to reflect back on this slide. 2171 03:46:08,290 --> 03:46:12,660 So I would encourage that when you get to the point 2172 03:46:12,660 --> 03:46:14,080 where this thing is actually built 2173 03:46:14,080 --> 03:46:16,200 and we're looking at hiring a management company 2174 03:46:16,200 --> 03:46:19,220 that the board provides directions to the management company 2175 03:46:19,220 --> 03:46:22,600 about what the board wants to see in the net pricing scheme. 2176 03:46:23,460 --> 03:46:27,600 I think the important thing to take away from this slide 2177 03:46:27,600 --> 03:46:36,780 is that we can meet the requirements of the pathway and still have quite a lot of leeway 2178 03:46:36,780 --> 03:46:43,340 on what we charge in the remaining units and still come in well under the market rent. 2179 03:46:43,600 --> 03:46:54,000 So then the real question is, is the employees that want this housing, where are they on their own? 2180 03:46:54,560 --> 03:47:01,960 How much are they willing to pay for the property because we can offer them a cheaper rent 2181 03:47:01,960 --> 03:47:09,640 than what they may be paying now in Glendora and still come in well over the color it's 2182 03:47:09,640 --> 03:47:10,660 parts on this slide. 2183 03:47:11,280 --> 03:47:17,420 But I do think that's a task that should go to a professional property management company 2184 03:47:17,420 --> 03:47:23,980 who can look at who's applying for these things and what their income levels are and then 2185 03:47:23,980 --> 03:47:29,780 You have to offer these many units at this amount because that's what SB25 says. 2186 03:47:30,260 --> 03:47:34,720 But then the remaining ones, these are the, this is what the applicant pool looked like. 2187 03:47:34,820 --> 03:47:46,200 This is what we think that we can fairly charge that they're still saving a lot of money by moving into these places, but we're making more than whatever that number is on that slide. 2188 03:47:46,580 --> 03:47:49,260 I think we will come in higher than the 1.3, 2189 03:47:51,790 --> 03:47:52,550 but 2190 03:47:52,550 --> 03:48:00,230 But I think that should be driven by the professionals that run the project and not by the board trying to twiddle numbers up and down. 2191 03:48:00,470 --> 03:48:13,050 I really do agree with Michelle that this should be a thing that's independent and we don't want someone who's upset about their rent level coming and putting a public comment card and you only get the board and a board meeting, that's not what we're supposed to do here. 2192 03:48:13,370 --> 03:48:15,090 I really do agree with that. 2193 03:48:15,090 --> 03:48:19,030 I'm trying to comment to the top of the list for rent, because there are many. 2194 03:48:19,750 --> 03:48:25,750 So there's that, and then I just wanted to provide a little gentle, not specific pushback, but 2195 03:48:26,770 --> 03:48:33,770 people who are on this committee who have done projects and put them through the design commission pointed out that 2196 03:48:34,350 --> 03:48:44,120 mission style, Spanish style really does not have the same level of commentary. 2197 03:48:44,120 --> 03:48:52,360 That the Craftsman style does from the design commission, speaking as someone who was part of the 2198 03:48:52,360 --> 03:48:56,660 bungalow heaven neighborhood association and was involved in people who went to the design 2199 03:48:56,660 --> 03:49:01,960 commission to yell at designs and stuff, there's nobody in this town that is more committed 2200 03:49:01,960 --> 03:49:08,240 to faithful adoption of Craftsman style than the city of Pasadena. 2201 03:49:13,480 --> 03:49:19,080 If you're going to shoot for a craftsman, you're going to A, be spending more to build it, B, be spending more to maintain it. 2202 03:49:19,180 --> 03:49:22,780 But also C, you're going to get a lot of, that's not real craftsman features, right? 2203 03:49:23,800 --> 03:49:27,200 And so that is an additional factor. 2204 03:49:27,480 --> 03:49:31,200 So I just wanted to mention that not, I mean, you still have a valid point about the neighborhood. 2205 03:49:31,200 --> 03:49:41,060 But I think for the purposes of making a decision tonight, I agree with the committee's recommendation that that's what we should go with right now. 2206 03:49:44,210 --> 03:49:46,950 So forgive me if you went over this. 2207 03:49:47,530 --> 03:50:02,130 So as costs rise with management, maintenance, costs that kind of pop up and all of that, how will the management company maintain that balance? 2208 03:50:02,130 --> 03:50:09,510 so that we don't get our profit eaten up with management fees. 2209 03:50:23,760 --> 03:50:45,600 There we go. Okay, excuse me. So a couple things. Number one is, first off, there are reserves that were built into the operating costs to deal with some of these ongoing expenses, and when roofs have to be replaced, there are funds that are being set aside every year from as part of 2210 03:50:45,600 --> 03:50:55,620 the operations. So you shouldn't be struck by some huge unanticipated capital expense. 2211 03:50:56,160 --> 03:51:02,140 That's number one. Number two is, yes, every year rents will go up. Good property managers 2212 03:51:02,140 --> 03:51:08,760 will keep them going up by at least CPI, which is allowed in the state. And consequently, 2213 03:51:09,680 --> 03:51:13,260 revenues over time will increase and should increase. 2214 03:51:13,260 --> 03:51:24,280 We looked at the other places, the other districts that have done workforce housing, and perhaps asked them about this. 2215 03:51:24,480 --> 03:51:26,480 Is there any anecdotal information on this? 2216 03:51:26,780 --> 03:51:35,040 Yes, and as a matter of fact, our underwriting was based upon working with the Northern California operators, 2217 03:51:35,500 --> 03:51:42,320 because that's actually where these projects were built that were owned and 2218 03:51:42,320 --> 03:51:47,320 operated by the school districts or owned by the school districts, hiring third party 2219 03:51:47,320 --> 03:51:50,800 property managers and that was the information that we were working off of. 2220 03:51:51,780 --> 03:51:58,700 I will raise one thing that's actually probably all experienced is the fact that one big change 2221 03:51:58,700 --> 03:52:03,860 from 18 months ago, thereabouts when we were putting together a feasibility study and now 2222 03:52:03,860 --> 03:52:11,260 insurance costs and so insurance costs which we reflected in this analysis have probably 2223 03:52:11,260 --> 03:52:17,440 We increased three, fourfold for apartments from what we anticipated. 2224 03:52:18,220 --> 03:52:22,160 So we are trying to anticipate some of those costs as we go. 2225 03:52:22,300 --> 03:52:25,660 But again, as we're going through this process, we will be updating. 2226 03:52:26,320 --> 03:52:31,560 Development costs will be updating, operating costs, and we'll keep you up priced. 2227 03:52:34,150 --> 03:52:35,390 I'm going to call for the vote. 2228 03:52:35,390 --> 03:52:36,390 So 2229 03:52:42,060 --> 03:52:42,580 the 2230 03:52:47,700 --> 03:52:50,320 original 2231 03:52:52,810 --> 03:52:56,330 scenario, 126, went to 115, right? 2232 03:52:57,630 --> 03:52:58,190 Number of units, 2233 03:53:00,330 --> 03:53:03,010 the feasibility was 126 and then went to 115. 2234 03:53:04,150 --> 03:53:13,050 So I'm just curious how it still stayed the same, like same number of units, and maybe 2235 03:53:13,050 --> 03:53:16,690 because it's more efficient to have larger units. 2236 03:53:19,990 --> 03:53:23,170 I'm sorry, could you repeat the question? 2237 03:53:24,450 --> 03:53:25,870 No, 123, say. 2238 03:53:26,190 --> 03:53:27,770 So, it was 123. 2239 03:53:28,650 --> 03:53:32,690 The feasibility had 123 and a version with 135. 2240 03:53:33,690 --> 03:53:33,890 Yep. 2241 03:53:34,010 --> 03:53:34,970 We're now at 115. 2242 03:53:35,850 --> 03:53:40,570 I'm just observing that it didn't change much even though we have large units. 2243 03:53:41,810 --> 03:53:51,010 I guess, I'm speaking to the committee, people are watching, there's going to be critics. 2244 03:53:51,750 --> 03:53:57,510 Is there anything through the process of the committee where there were some common 2245 03:53:57,510 --> 03:54:06,930 themes, common doubts that you want to, you know, address that are probably some common 2246 03:54:06,930 --> 03:54:10,230 Concerns out there that have not been brought up yet. 2247 03:54:10,690 --> 03:54:17,570 So, Mr. Bravo-Koremi, just joined the committee recently, and we've been working on the committee for quite some time. 2248 03:54:18,290 --> 03:54:27,450 And I think the common theme was, and you've seen the change, as we want it to be affordable for every employee, regardless of the income that they make, right? 2249 03:54:27,730 --> 03:54:34,130 And so I can remember reviewing the feasibility study with SLT and 2250 03:54:34,130 --> 03:54:38,390 learning about the project probably a year or so ago, and we looked at it and we said 2251 03:54:38,390 --> 03:54:39,810 we couldn't afford to live here, right? 2252 03:54:40,090 --> 03:54:44,450 So because when you look at the feasibility and you only have some low and everybody 2253 03:54:44,450 --> 03:54:50,270 else has to pay really high, most people, it's market value, they can't afford. 2254 03:54:50,790 --> 03:54:57,150 So that was a common theme, and then when we had a lot of discussion regarding the one 2255 03:54:57,150 --> 03:55:04,450 bedrooms versus family units and we came to some compromises around that to meet the 2256 03:55:04,450 --> 03:55:11,090 needs of everyone. We spoke a lot about craftsmen versus the Mediterranean and the challenges 2257 03:55:11,090 --> 03:55:17,650 with craftsmen. So I think another common theme is you know we don't need to get rich 2258 03:55:17,650 --> 03:55:23,970 off this but we had a 7-0 vote because we presented as a revenue enhancement and we wanted 2259 03:55:23,970 --> 03:55:29,810 to make sure that it's still a revenue enhancement with the district and that's why a lot of work 2260 03:55:29,810 --> 03:55:35,450 was done on the back end with the salaries of our employees and you know it's not an exact 2261 03:55:35,450 --> 03:55:42,010 science yet but just playing with the numbers to see that it could be still affordable and we would be 2262 03:55:42,010 --> 03:55:49,050 able to still have revenue coming in to maintain our building. So you know that's not said in 2263 03:55:49,050 --> 03:55:55,250 we do need to get expert values, but moving to this next step is important. 2264 03:55:56,070 --> 03:56:03,250 And then another common theme, which had discussions of pros and cons, was fast track or not to fast track. 2265 03:56:03,750 --> 03:56:12,770 Because I think 50%, there was some concerns about limiting future boards with a 50% low income. 2266 03:56:13,530 --> 03:56:18,510 But once I think we looked at the numbers and saw that we have the flexibility to set 2267 03:56:18,510 --> 03:56:23,110 But the other 50 percent at higher prices in the future should things change. 2268 03:56:23,430 --> 03:56:26,190 We all came to agreement with the presentation this evening. 2269 03:56:26,930 --> 03:56:32,510 So I'll just take a moment to thank everyone, especially Ms. Bailey, Mr. Cahalin who had 2270 03:56:32,510 --> 03:56:38,870 to take time off work to be part of the group and Mr. Bravo-Karemi for jumping in and learning 2271 03:56:38,870 --> 03:56:40,470 about this along the way. 2272 03:56:40,690 --> 03:56:46,090 And Mr. Carrasco for being a champion on his own before Mr. Bravo-Karemi joined us. 2273 03:56:46,830 --> 03:56:48,130 I would like to call the vote. 2274 03:56:50,210 --> 03:56:51,070 I'm going to the approval. 2275 03:56:52,930 --> 03:56:55,900 I'm so sorry. 2276 03:56:56,000 --> 03:57:00,220 Dr. Blanco just said that we potentially could change rents in the future. 2277 03:57:01,240 --> 03:57:01,680 Okay. 2278 03:57:01,860 --> 03:57:05,360 Because I thought I heard you said we're restricted to CPI increases. 2279 03:57:05,720 --> 03:57:07,540 But we could just change rents. 2280 03:57:07,640 --> 03:57:11,840 On the affordable units, you're stuck. 2281 03:57:12,140 --> 03:57:12,900 There's two difference. 2282 03:57:13,660 --> 03:57:14,060 That's rules. 2283 03:57:14,240 --> 03:57:14,680 Okay, sorry. 2284 03:57:14,840 --> 03:57:15,400 That wasn't... 2285 03:57:15,400 --> 03:57:16,320 I didn't see that anywhere. 2286 03:57:16,320 --> 03:57:16,600 Okay. 2287 03:57:24,930 --> 03:57:25,410 Yes. 2288 03:57:30,820 --> 03:57:31,440 All in favor? 2289 03:57:32,160 --> 03:57:33,040 Any opposed? 2290 03:57:34,680 --> 03:57:40,120 And it's mainly to the faster route than just doing 50 versus the 30. 2291 03:57:46,270 --> 03:57:47,650 Thank you very much. 2292 03:57:47,790 --> 03:57:52,190 We will move to the consent agenda. 2293 03:57:53,470 --> 03:57:55,450 I would like to pull five B. 2294 03:58:26,620 --> 03:58:28,480 Michelle's looking for the one she won to pull. 2295 03:58:38,900 --> 03:58:41,460 Oh, board report seven A. 2296 03:58:41,460 --> 03:58:43,780 Okay, so 3C, 2297 03:58:46,880 --> 03:58:50,300 O3C, Agenda Item, Board Report 7A. 2298 03:58:50,640 --> 03:58:54,360 All right, and then I'm sorry, Yarmay, you said 5B. 2299 03:58:55,220 --> 03:58:55,860 5B. 2300 03:58:56,580 --> 03:58:57,780 Any other polls? 2301 03:58:59,960 --> 03:59:00,480 All right. 2302 03:59:00,780 --> 03:59:01,460 We'll begin to approve. 2303 03:59:01,880 --> 03:59:03,220 I'll start the remainder. 2304 03:59:04,260 --> 03:59:07,660 And just to note for everyone that 2305 03:59:11,280 --> 03:59:14,740 2H was pulled prior to the meeting. 2306 03:59:16,220 --> 03:59:17,420 Okay, just to make sure. 2307 03:59:18,960 --> 03:59:26,260 We had tabled it at policy to get Jeff's opinion on something, and so it wasn't supposed to come to this meeting yet, because we were waiting for his reply. 2308 03:59:27,220 --> 03:59:39,200 All right, so we have a motion in a second, and I have questions, I don't know if anyone else has questions on those, or maybe just mind more of a comment, I guess, on the new-certificated positions. 2309 03:59:39,200 --> 03:59:56,840 I just wanted to, I don't know that it's said in the board report, but I believe the two point two FTEs were positions we had reduced in the spring, but we're bringing them back, but paying for them with Prop 28. 2310 03:59:58,360 --> 03:59:59,860 It just didn't say that in the board report. 2311 04:00:01,460 --> 04:00:29,380 I'm sorry, are you talking about 6D or 6D? 6D is in dog. And then, just wanted to say that I know that the special ed teachers, it said they were coming out of AB602, but they'll really add to the general fund's contribution, because 602 is already maxed out, so I just wanted to clarify those two things. All right, student board member votes. Yes. 2312 04:00:29,380 --> 04:00:29,580 Yes. 2313 04:00:29,900 --> 04:00:30,360 All right. 2314 04:00:31,140 --> 04:00:31,840 Everyone else? 2315 04:00:34,160 --> 04:00:35,140 Pass a 7-0? 2316 04:00:36,000 --> 04:00:36,780 All right. 2317 04:00:37,060 --> 04:00:38,320 3-C. 2318 04:00:38,760 --> 04:00:40,660 The Green School Yards America. 2319 04:00:40,740 --> 04:00:41,300 That was beautiful. 2320 04:00:41,560 --> 04:00:42,900 I would like to commend this board. 2321 04:00:53,250 --> 04:00:53,670 Thank you. 2322 04:00:54,910 --> 04:00:56,970 I don't like when I'm Mike Messes up. 2323 04:00:58,990 --> 04:01:06,210 I just have a question about the fiscal impact portion of this. 2324 04:01:07,010 --> 04:01:25,790 And I'm going to tell you, I was reading this after work in school, so I want to make sure that I'm understanding that there's this is a grant and so funds will be coming in the district won't be paying anything out because I'm not clear. 2325 04:01:25,790 --> 04:01:38,710 I see one, two, three, four strings that say health initiative with a few different, 2326 04:01:38,750 --> 04:01:43,950 what are these, the objects, and I don't remember, but there are a few different codes there. 2327 04:01:45,270 --> 04:01:49,570 And then I see five different resources, one, two, three, 2328 04:01:51,750 --> 04:01:53,830 four different resources, five. 2329 04:01:53,830 --> 04:01:59,010 So I'm a little confused about what this is saying to me with regards to the funding. 2330 04:02:00,470 --> 04:02:06,410 Because the one resource with the four strings, I mean the four strings have the same resource. 2331 04:02:11,730 --> 04:02:12,490 Oh, yay. 2332 04:02:13,030 --> 04:02:14,250 Oh, did you hear me? 2333 04:02:14,650 --> 04:02:15,830 Oh, my God. 2334 04:02:17,850 --> 04:02:18,450 So. 2335 04:02:19,450 --> 04:02:20,050 Yeah. 2336 04:02:20,350 --> 04:02:20,570 Yeah. 2337 04:02:22,050 --> 04:02:22,950 Oh, yes. 2338 04:02:23,350 --> 04:02:23,430 Yes. 2339 04:02:23,770 --> 04:02:28,130 Because the anticipation is that we will receive the 10th 2340 04:02:28,130 --> 04:02:31,730 1000 stipend and so we broke up how we would spend it. 2341 04:02:32,150 --> 04:02:33,770 So mileage, materials, 2342 04:02:34,530 --> 04:02:38,410 several mill hours if we have a teacher joining the committee. 2343 04:02:39,390 --> 04:02:42,630 And then a subpay as well. 2344 04:02:43,270 --> 04:02:46,790 So and then the different resources for the different. 2345 04:02:47,650 --> 04:02:50,450 There's farm before in the paragraph. 2346 04:02:50,670 --> 04:02:55,330 Okay, yes, so I was asked to also include how we are paying for 2347 04:02:55,330 --> 04:02:58,150 the staff who are participating? 2348 04:02:58,570 --> 04:03:00,050 We are paying for the staff. 2349 04:03:00,150 --> 04:03:02,190 Well, it's already staffed. 2350 04:03:08,810 --> 04:03:18,050 So then when you show the funding strings in the board report with these resources, 2351 04:03:18,290 --> 04:03:23,530 shouldn't we see those resources with the funding string and the amounts of Japan 2352 04:03:23,530 --> 04:03:24,570 for staff out of that? 2353 04:03:26,450 --> 04:03:27,770 I think so. 2354 04:03:29,470 --> 04:03:34,370 That's more in kind, that's where they talked about, like that there would be a person 2355 04:03:34,370 --> 04:03:39,130 of time for the staff to go to training, but they were predetermining because it's 2356 04:03:39,130 --> 04:03:43,690 a collaborative effort between armed to school health services, different departments. 2357 04:03:44,170 --> 04:03:47,530 When the 10,000 comes, how they're going to split that up, that's what the different 2358 04:03:47,530 --> 04:03:48,150 strings are. 2359 04:03:48,650 --> 04:03:51,070 So the grant, we're going to put the grant when it gets there. 2360 04:03:51,970 --> 04:03:57,230 Okay, so we're not using any of our funds to fund anything related to this. 2361 04:03:57,690 --> 04:04:03,210 No, only like we as time to attend in somebody from facilities is going to attend to learn 2362 04:04:03,210 --> 04:04:03,650 about it. 2363 04:04:04,590 --> 04:04:08,570 And that's shown where on this board report. 2364 04:04:10,380 --> 04:04:14,830 The last paragraph where it's just the resource numbers that are identified. 2365 04:04:15,570 --> 04:04:21,970 So that would be, there are already staff that are going to attend. 2366 04:04:22,290 --> 04:04:27,510 Somebody from facilities, myself, are well in this coordinator and are farm to school coordinator. 2367 04:04:27,870 --> 04:04:30,690 So are we being reimbursed for your attendance? 2368 04:04:30,690 --> 04:04:33,550 We are not being reimbursed for our attendance. 2369 04:04:33,930 --> 04:04:40,650 So that's the amount that I'm thinking that those are the costs that I'm saying I want 2370 04:04:40,650 --> 04:04:47,050 to see on the board report so that where we have the fiscal impact and then we have these 2371 04:04:47,050 --> 04:04:53,710 resources we need the funding string so with the amount or at least that amount and the 2372 04:04:53,710 --> 04:04:59,130 number of different resources with their funding strings so that we can see that the district 2373 04:04:59,130 --> 04:05:08,470 is incurring some costs on this, and this isn't, it's not showing that, so that's it. 2374 04:05:08,650 --> 04:05:10,650 That's the point that I want to make to staff. 2375 04:05:14,340 --> 04:05:17,380 So I just wanted to kind of piggyback on that a little bit. 2376 04:05:17,560 --> 04:05:22,400 So it does say that we will be investing our own staff time to create an action plan. 2377 04:05:22,640 --> 04:05:28,000 And I think in terms of the stipend, we don't get the second half until after we've implemented 2378 04:05:28,000 --> 04:05:29,140 the action plan. 2379 04:05:29,140 --> 04:05:41,100 So there is a certain amount of our own staff time and efforts that will be going into this. 2380 04:05:43,860 --> 04:05:53,780 My question really was, do we need to devote staff time in this very constricted way to doing this work? 2381 04:05:53,860 --> 04:05:59,120 In other words, for that $10,000, they're saying we want you to do this and this and this and this. 2382 04:05:59,120 --> 04:06:01,340 this and I understand that we'll get training. 2383 04:06:02,140 --> 04:06:05,140 It's just if we are already going in this direction 2384 04:06:05,140 --> 04:06:08,980 and this is already incorporated into our facilities planning 2385 04:06:09,460 --> 04:06:11,120 when we're either doing upgrades 2386 04:06:11,880 --> 04:06:14,240 during the summer or as we're going forward 2387 04:06:14,240 --> 04:06:15,440 with school projects. 2388 04:06:18,610 --> 04:06:21,390 It's just very prescriptive. 2389 04:06:21,490 --> 04:06:23,470 You know, it's telling us you will do this, 2390 04:06:23,490 --> 04:06:24,290 this, this, and this. 2391 04:06:24,930 --> 04:06:28,470 And I'm not sure from a focus, you know, 2392 04:06:28,470 --> 04:06:34,350 So as said earlier tonight from a focus perspective, but I mean, stop spring it forward. 2393 04:06:35,670 --> 04:06:41,370 So for me, this was just as somebody who wants to be able to look at the board report 2394 04:06:41,370 --> 04:06:47,270 and the board report tell me the full story of what's happening, especially physically 2395 04:06:47,270 --> 04:06:48,950 or financially with it. 2396 04:06:49,410 --> 04:06:55,750 This was a little confusing because it looks like it's saying, yeah, the district is either 2397 04:06:55,750 --> 04:07:00,830 going to receive money that's going to go into these resources or we're going to be spending money 2398 04:07:01,450 --> 04:07:07,790 out of these resources. But I don't see how much. I get the stipend. I'm not concerned about any 2399 04:07:07,790 --> 04:07:13,030 of the work or the time that staff is going to be giving to this project based on 2400 04:07:14,050 --> 04:07:21,130 you know whatever's coming out of the stipend, the reimbursement. But for the staff cost that the 2401 04:07:21,130 --> 04:07:27,190 district will incur that they won't be reimbursed for. By this grant I think that 2402 04:07:27,190 --> 04:07:33,350 needs to show here as well and that's what I'm missing. So that's all because 2403 04:07:33,350 --> 04:07:39,270 it's it's it's unless it's what I hear Kim saying that it's already part of the 2404 04:07:39,270 --> 04:07:45,850 work that you're doing but it doesn't sound like it. It is part of the work 2405 04:07:45,850 --> 04:07:49,830 everyone. It is part of the work that we're doing in the sense that it's a 2406 04:07:49,830 --> 04:07:54,710 it's a goal for our district to green our school yards, so it is part of the work. 2407 04:07:55,710 --> 04:08:01,950 The benefit of being part of this institute is to learn from state leaders in this area 2408 04:08:01,950 --> 04:08:06,810 from other school districts and also to really set the time that there's a multi-departmental 2409 04:08:08,090 --> 04:08:09,890 approach for the district to. 2410 04:08:10,230 --> 04:08:13,530 So how much is coming out of the ELCAP for this? 2411 04:08:13,530 --> 04:08:20,330 There are four days that we go to the institute, so four days of our time throughout the year. 2412 04:08:20,990 --> 04:08:25,030 There may be a time that we're spent on that as well. 2413 04:08:25,830 --> 04:08:32,810 And how much is coming into, nothing's coming into the LCAP, it's all coming into the health 2414 04:08:32,810 --> 04:08:33,290 initiative. 2415 04:08:34,870 --> 04:08:42,810 That's where the stipend is going, and from that resource is where we'll put towards 2416 04:08:42,810 --> 04:08:52,390 It's milder dreamversament, materials, and then if we have a teacher coming on board to pay for their substitute or in their supplemental time if they work outside of contract hours. 2417 04:08:56,650 --> 04:09:11,190 I mean quickly, quickly saying $60 an hour which is I think what we pay teachers hourly times eight hours times four people times four times, roughly 8,000, maybe double that for actually doing the project, not just going to the meetings. 2418 04:09:11,190 --> 04:09:15,310 things. So I don't know that that's significant. I think it's more of the opportunity costs 2419 04:09:16,130 --> 04:09:21,870 of what the same staff members would be doing if they didn't do this for me. So I just 2420 04:09:21,870 --> 04:09:27,590 think anytime we expend money and there's a board report that's attached to that, that 2421 04:09:27,590 --> 04:09:29,470 the amount needs to be shown down there. 2422 04:09:33,460 --> 04:09:34,140 I'm on the phone. 2423 04:09:35,940 --> 04:09:36,380 Second. 2424 04:09:39,560 --> 04:09:40,000 Yes. 2425 04:09:40,000 --> 04:09:40,160 Yes. 2426 04:09:41,900 --> 04:09:42,520 All in favor? 2427 04:09:44,510 --> 04:09:45,110 Any opposed? 2428 04:09:48,280 --> 04:09:49,100 6-1. 2429 04:09:49,620 --> 04:09:50,940 And one differential? 2430 04:09:51,520 --> 04:09:51,700 All right. 2431 04:09:51,780 --> 04:09:54,100 We're going on to item 5b. 2432 04:09:55,540 --> 04:10:02,920 I feel like this board already voted no to this project once and then they divided it so that it looks like less at a different project. 2433 04:10:03,120 --> 04:10:07,440 And then we approved the first part that it was much less because it was such a deal. 2434 04:10:07,660 --> 04:10:13,320 And I still think that we should not vote and I wanted the opportunity to consistently vote no to this project. 2435 04:10:13,320 --> 04:10:22,360 It is a nice to have, and I must have only economy. 2436 04:10:31,160 --> 04:10:32,320 I move approval. 2437 04:10:32,720 --> 04:10:33,980 A second. 2438 04:10:35,620 --> 04:10:36,460 Now I can say something. 2439 04:10:36,860 --> 04:10:39,820 Okay, so this is phase two of the Promethean Board. 2440 04:10:40,080 --> 04:10:41,420 We already went through phase one. 2441 04:10:41,900 --> 04:10:45,380 I've talked to a few teachers about this. 2442 04:10:45,560 --> 04:10:47,160 One in particular is very excited. 2443 04:10:47,280 --> 04:10:49,000 It was excited about the first time. 2444 04:10:49,000 --> 04:10:56,040 And I did some research, and children are doing better, learning wise, when these are utilized. 2445 04:10:56,380 --> 04:11:00,540 And what I also found was sort of interesting is that girls do better. 2446 04:11:01,020 --> 04:11:03,760 And I don't know why, and I'd have to keep looking into that. 2447 04:11:04,080 --> 04:11:09,000 But these seem to be very helpful to student learning, from what I have found. 2448 04:11:09,100 --> 04:11:12,280 There's not a whole lot out there on it, but that's what I have found. 2449 04:11:12,440 --> 04:11:14,180 And so I think that's important. 2450 04:11:14,800 --> 04:11:17,800 And I just would love to hear from my colleagues what they think. 2451 04:11:17,800 --> 04:11:20,100 because I think these are very interesting. 2452 04:11:20,400 --> 04:11:20,640 Thank you. 2453 04:11:31,610 --> 04:11:33,890 Say, I was going to comment on Promethean boards. 2454 04:11:36,370 --> 04:11:37,630 I saw it for myself. 2455 04:11:39,470 --> 04:11:43,730 I went on a tour where we showed the parent and the student 2456 04:11:43,730 --> 04:11:46,790 of the board, and it's pretty cool. 2457 04:11:48,670 --> 04:11:51,610 And I hear, and I think I heard this from Dr. Blanco, 2458 04:11:51,650 --> 04:11:55,570 that some teachers that didn't want it now want it. 2459 04:11:59,070 --> 04:12:02,210 Is there student board member? Have you seen these new interactive boards? 2460 04:12:02,890 --> 04:12:06,970 I've seen a few around campus and all the teachers are pretty excited about it. 2461 04:12:07,390 --> 04:12:11,970 Yeah. I went to one of my teachers' classroom and then I was like, oh my goodness, is that new? 2462 04:12:12,050 --> 04:12:13,750 And then she was like waving her arms around. 2463 04:12:17,790 --> 04:12:22,970 All right, so let's go to the boat. All right, student board member. 2464 04:12:23,470 --> 04:12:26,430 Yes. All right. All in favor? 2465 04:12:29,020 --> 04:12:29,500 Any opposed? 2466 04:12:36,480 --> 04:12:40,320 I don't believe we have any other public comments. 2467 04:12:40,780 --> 04:12:41,620 Motion to adjourn. 2468 04:12:41,980 --> 04:12:45,980 So board requests or questions or future agenda items? 2469 04:12:46,900 --> 04:12:48,700 Does anybody else have any? 2470 04:12:53,050 --> 04:12:53,290 No. 2471 04:12:53,590 --> 04:12:56,350 Well, can we finish the agenda? 2472 04:12:57,790 --> 04:12:58,990 What can we finish the agenda? 2473 04:12:59,210 --> 04:13:00,770 Can she make a motion? 2474 04:13:02,540 --> 04:13:04,380 How can you make a motion to do something 2475 04:13:04,380 --> 04:13:06,060 that we haven't gotten to on the agenda yet. 2476 04:13:11,320 --> 04:13:13,500 I really would like to talk about October 10th, 2477 04:13:13,500 --> 04:13:15,660 and I would really like, well, what if there's a second? 2478 04:13:17,980 --> 04:13:18,700 Is there a second? 2479 04:13:20,840 --> 04:13:21,760 I'll make Michelle a liar. 2480 04:13:24,800 --> 04:13:25,760 All right. 2481 04:13:28,040 --> 04:13:35,460 So on 10-10, that was the meeting that wasn't 2482 04:13:36,100 --> 04:13:38,980 before on our schedule, but it's the second Thursday 2483 04:13:38,980 --> 04:13:46,480 that is potentially available. We wanted to, again, talk about input for negotiations 2484 04:13:46,480 --> 04:13:50,580 that we can move forward with negotiations for all of our different bargaining teams. 2485 04:13:51,740 --> 04:13:58,820 We may or may not be able to do a little bit of intro on September 12th, but staff has 2486 04:13:58,820 --> 04:14:04,900 other materials together, and so that's why we added October 10th. So I don't know that we'll 2487 04:14:04,900 --> 04:14:07,980 be doing significant other work that night. 2488 04:14:08,240 --> 04:14:10,180 So I think Dr. Blaske, as you just said, 2489 04:14:10,340 --> 04:14:12,740 you couldn't come as early as four, 2490 04:14:12,900 --> 04:14:14,340 but you can come later in the evening. 2491 04:14:15,300 --> 04:14:17,880 All right, and that works for everybody else, 2492 04:14:18,200 --> 04:14:20,340 or you're not working for you either. 2493 04:14:20,560 --> 04:14:22,980 Well, it's CIS is back to school night, but if, 2494 04:14:23,920 --> 04:14:26,940 I mean, we tell people not to schedule back to school nights 2495 04:14:26,940 --> 04:14:29,480 on Thursdays, they have to do what they have to do. 2496 04:14:29,980 --> 04:14:30,740 What time is it? 2497 04:14:30,980 --> 04:14:31,500 What time is it? 2498 04:14:31,660 --> 04:14:32,180 5.37. 2499 04:14:32,180 --> 04:14:43,100 seven. Yeah, it's just it won't work out. That's okay. All right. Um, one of the this is under the 2500 04:14:43,100 --> 04:14:47,500 brown act. This is totally an allowable email kind of conversation. 2501 04:14:50,740 --> 04:14:52,970 That is one opinion. I don't 2502 04:14:52,970 --> 04:14:59,970 know this. Well, it is a Google calendar. The content or the skin? 2503 04:15:01,720 --> 04:15:29,980 Okay, and I did have a request and it was kind of triggered by one of the items tonight, so let me know what you think. So, on the new certificate positions, it said that we needed two extra special education teachers for embedded instruction, otherwise known as inclusion. And the question I'd ask before the meeting has a presentation for this come to the board. 2504 04:15:29,980 --> 04:15:36,040 have we talked about it? I mean, I remember Devon Jacob sitting there and telling us we were starting it two years ago 2505 04:15:36,040 --> 04:15:42,180 when we were having a presentation on the strategic plan, but I don't know that we understand the staffing ramifications 2506 04:15:43,880 --> 04:15:47,500 and it's tending to feel like there's some extra staff involved 2507 04:15:47,500 --> 04:15:54,600 and I don't know what the rollout is, so at this point, I think we're in pre-K and TK. 2508 04:15:54,600 --> 04:15:57,520 I don't know that we've gone to Kinder, but we may have. 2509 04:15:58,300 --> 04:16:04,520 So is there, and maybe it's not a presentation, maybe it is some kind of Friday communicate 2510 04:16:04,520 --> 04:16:05,040 to the Board. 2511 04:16:05,200 --> 04:16:10,560 Just so that we understand what embedded instruction is, what the staffing ramifications are. 2512 04:16:11,020 --> 04:16:15,620 Is this rolling out, you know, all the way to 12th grade, and what's the time frame? 2513 04:16:15,740 --> 04:16:20,300 Is it one grade every year, is it, you know, we're going to work our way through elementary 2514 04:16:20,300 --> 04:16:23,280 in the next four to five years, and then figure out where to go from there. 2515 04:16:24,180 --> 04:16:30,360 I'd like, I'd love to hear more of a plan, is that I don't know if people want a presentation or if that's more of a Friday. 2516 04:16:32,590 --> 04:16:33,110 Is there? 2517 04:16:33,410 --> 04:16:54,730 Yeah, with you want a presentation we could certainly do one, but one of the things that Dr. Cannell and I have assured is that if you're 10 children in a classroom, they're going to have a teacher in an SDC anyway, so the ratios were pushing the ratios to be the same where it's kind of like half and half, but that it does lower the gen ad ratio. 2518 04:16:54,730 --> 04:17:05,870 So there are, you know, some cost and we are cautioning, you know, the special ed department not to move into another program model, one from another. 2519 04:17:06,390 --> 04:17:12,930 So we could have a presentation on that and really look at children's individual IEPs and inclusive practices. 2520 04:17:13,410 --> 04:17:20,230 But in the early grades, it seems to be working because remember the ratios in TK are going to go 10 to 1 to 2. 2521 04:17:20,230 --> 04:17:20,350 So. 2522 04:17:20,770 --> 04:17:21,150 Right. 2523 04:17:21,370 --> 04:17:29,210 And I think we agree that inclusion will lead us to better results for students, but in 2524 04:17:29,210 --> 04:17:34,910 a year where we're doing a fiscal stabilization plan and talking about lowering costs, just 2525 04:17:34,910 --> 04:17:36,990 want to make sure this all fits together. 2526 04:17:37,510 --> 04:17:41,010 So this Friday or I'm looking at other people. 2527 04:17:41,290 --> 04:17:43,850 It strongly feels to a Friday community at best. 2528 04:17:44,450 --> 04:17:44,650 Okay. 2529 04:17:44,650 --> 04:17:47,390 Is that for everyone to do this? 2530 04:17:47,690 --> 04:17:49,830 Okay, brighter communicators, thank you. 2531 04:17:50,090 --> 04:17:53,090 Anybody else, comments, questions, future agenda items? 2532 04:17:54,830 --> 04:17:55,990 Excellent, then we are. 2533 04:17:56,930 --> 04:18:00,410 So can I just adjourn us or do we need, okay, I'm going to adjourn us.