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All right. Good evening and welcome to

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the uh Tuesday, January 27th planning

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commission meeting. Uh we'll go ahead

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and call this meeting to order and we

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will begin with the pledge of

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allegiance.

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I aliance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Roll call, please.

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Commissioner Connelly

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Rhoden

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Marlo

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Kogler

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Neil

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» Here.

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» Mr. Christensen

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» Here.

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» Chairperson Kar Rubius

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» Here.

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» All present.

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» Staff introductions please.

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» Marcy Renoso and Jessica Ferguson.

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Permit technicians.

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» Warren Fr. Community development

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director.

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and Sarah Locklin, legal counsel with

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» Good. All right. Moving on then to item

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E. Are there any general public comments

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regarding matters not on the agenda?

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Seeing none in the audience? Marcy, any

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callers?

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» No callers.

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» Thank you.

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Moving on to uh agenda items proposed to

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be tabled or rescheduled.

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» Yes, Mr. Chairman. Um item one, the

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Beachwood specific plan development

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agreement amendment. Um the applicant

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has requested that be continued to a

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future meeting um date to be determined.

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It will be renoticed. Um we do know

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there's a few folks in the audience that

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were interested in this item. Um I would

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suggest that we still allow public

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comment on this but we will there will

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be no staff report and no um decisions

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tonight on that item.

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» Okay, understood. All right, so the

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first item, the Beachwood specific plan

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development agreement amendment um has

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been uh postponed and will be

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rescheduled. If there are anybody uh

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participants in the audience that would

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like to make any comments regarding this

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particular matter, please feel free come

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on up, state your name.

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There's a podium over here to our right.

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» Good evening, sir. Go ahead and state

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your name.

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» I'm David Anderson. I'm a resident of

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Hassel Rebels. I live at 925 Oral Way.

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I'm very close to the development um

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that's under consideration here and I

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have some concerns. I was in agreement

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with the um original plan from 2020.

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These revisions to me uh seem kind of

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extreme. Um specifically the segregation

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of the workforce units going from being

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kind of spread throughout the community

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to being 91% located in one portion of

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the development right off of uh beach of

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metalark road.

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now uh Harry Po I understand is the

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prime developer here. Is that correct?

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Okay. And u I have I live in a Herod

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home. I know my carrot um and I like the

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Herod the work that they do, but I do

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have some concerns about the way it's

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been proposed

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as opposed to what was originally um

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agreed to. So if we look at the

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Beachwood Pacific plan sub areas, you've

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got Herod A B C1,

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C2, CH, excuse me, H, J, well Herod all

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through J through four and the Herod

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owned subtotal is 46 units of the

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workforce housing. And here at A

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originally 5% of that number, the 46 was

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to be um workforce housing. That's about

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11% of the total. Herod B was supposed

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to be 22% 10 units. Herod C combined was

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24 units or 52%.

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Herod H seven units at 15%.

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Uh for your amendment, we're looking at

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42 units of Herod C1. 91% of all units

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be located in that one specific area. I

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don't think it's a big area. One of my

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big concerns is and I I live in the area

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there obviously and um what comes to

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mind to me is what could result there

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with this kind of concentration is what

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you have in what's called Crestston

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Courts. Is anybody here familiar with

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Crestston Courts? Crestston Courts is at

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the other end of Beachwood where it

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intersects and goes to from Pebble Creek

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up to Crestston up to Crestston there.

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four units off a central little driveway

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with a twocar garage for each. Now these

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are all owner units on Crestston Courts.

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night, there is not a parking spot to be

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found. If you ever driven there during

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the day, especially garbage collection,

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it's really tedious because there's

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always it's always overcrowded with

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parking. One of my questions to the

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eight to the group here is, is there

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going to be public parking on the

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streets of this development? And if so,

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how are you going to accommodate folks

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that can't have loaded their garages

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with personal equipment, uh, cars that

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they don't drive necessarily or other

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things that they've accumulated, which

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is what's happened at Crestston Courts.

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» Thank you.

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» Good evening. Thank you for letting me

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speak. Uh Doug Toby uh 510 Cool Valley

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Drive as a uh 35 year resident of past

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roles. Something concerns me is the

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consolidation of the workforce housing

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in a smaller area. The original plan as

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I understand as the gentleman just seems

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to affirm is that it was going to be

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spread throughout the complex

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in the [sighs] with with my knowledge of

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various projects in the community.

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There's been attention to how those new

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projects affect the existing. The

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original plans seem to take that

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consideration. Nobody wants lower income

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housing in their backyard, but I

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understand that's a necessity. And for

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the benefit of the community, we need to

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do that. By consolidating all in one

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area, it seems to benefit only the

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developer, reduces construction costs,

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my own assessment, and takes little

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regard for those people who will be

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impacted. and and again the gentleman

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who just spoke has uh reflected my

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concerns also. So uh I would appreciate

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concern being taken for those people who

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are already in the area and how it would

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impact them and their property values.

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» Anybody else? Yes, ma'am.

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» Hello. My name is Terry Dyn. I do live

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on Deer Springs Drive, so right across

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the street from the uh proposed uh

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amendment one.

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And I have the same uh concerns that the

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last two gentlemen uh have stated in

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detail. Um I do not agree that this is

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justifiable

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uh by Herod. [clears throat]

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uh the reason to put a negative impact

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on the existing nearby housing which is

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directly across the street from me. So

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by condensing all of these units from

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the original plan to the amendment again

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would be 42 units for about 4 and a half

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acres. That's very very condensed.

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I feel like uh the community outreach

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was insufficient for this. Um some of

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the neighbors that I spoken with uh

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received the card January 14th the

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notice as I did. Uh some of the

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neighbors did not even receive the

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notice. Another issue was the there was

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only one posting um on uh the corner of

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Beachwood and Metallark in regards to

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this meeting unlike the last meetings we

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had. The postings were placed all the

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way down Metallark.

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This is going to affect uh the middle of

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Metallark, all of those housing uh that

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development. So, I think that the um the

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notices should be there should be more

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notices for the next meeting. So, that's

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that's what I would like to see. My

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concerns going back to my concerns um

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would be if the workhouse housing

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remains the same as it was in the

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original development agreement. This

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would be less impact on nearby homes.

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amendment one, I think it would affect

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um the the value of the homes uh that u

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directly is around that area as far as

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appraisal because the appraisal value if

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you're going to sell will reflect that

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work horse house um housing as well. So

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it it it it should be spread out within

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the area, the full area other than the 4

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and 1/2 acres. Um it's just not

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justifiable what he's asking. Thank you.

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» Thank you, ma'am.

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» Yes, sir.

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» Good evening. Thank you for the

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opportunity to speak. I live on the

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corner of Deer Springs.

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» Name, please.

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» Uh, good evening. My name is Chris

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Clemens. I live on the corner of Deer

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Springs where the supposed new

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roundabout's going to be going on. And I

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was just wondering if there's any

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consideration of the increased traffic

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and street parking due the increased

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workforce units are going to be

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consolidated just into the one small

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section of the entire into the one small

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section of the entire project instead of

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being equally distributed throughout the

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original project that was as planned.

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and just concerned backing out of the

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driveway if there's going to be that

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much traffic with the roundabout. Is it

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going to be safe to get out of the

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driveway and where all these people with

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the condensed housing are going to be

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able to park? There's going to be on

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street parking, off streetet parking,

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carports.

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And unfortunately, I just didn't think

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there was much awareness of what's

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potentially happening because there

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wasn't any signage. I had to walk by

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actually I actually walked by the sign

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of the meeting three times and didn't

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even see it. unfortunately and got a

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postcard in the mail, but that was sent

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on the 14th and I didn't receive it to

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the 16th and that was less than 10 days

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of this meeting. So, I was just hoping

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if there is going to be another meeting,

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there might be an opportunity for more

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people to be able to know what's

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potentially happening.

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Appreciate that. Thank you.

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» Thank you, sir.

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» Thank you.

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Looking in the audience, any other

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comments?

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Okay, seeing none. U Marcy, any callers?

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» No callers.

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» Okay. Okay, Warren, then uh we'll

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continue this.

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» Yeah, so this item's continued. Um it

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does need to be renoticed. We understand

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um the comments we heard about the the

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noticing issue and some of these other

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comments are useful information. We'll

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make sure that's conveyed to the

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developer as well. So, thank you. We can

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move on to the next item.

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» Okay. I believe Commissioner Koger, did

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you have a Do we need a motion?

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» Uh, I don't do We don't need a motion to

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postpone it or do we?

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» Yeah, we should have done that. Let's do

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that right now.

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» Yeah, we want to do that. Okay. Um, I'll

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take a motion to post postpone item

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number one, Beachwood Specific Plan

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Development Agreement Amendment.

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» So, moved. Can I get a second?

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» I'll second it.

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» So, seconded. Uh, roll call, please.

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Who is the second? [clears throat]

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» Marlo.

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» Marlo.

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» Commissioner Kogler.

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» Hi.

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» Commissioner Marlo.

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» Hi.

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» Mr. Broden.

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» Hi.

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» Mr. Connelly.

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» I.

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» Commissioner Neil.

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» I.

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» Commissioner Christensen.

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» Hi.

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» Chairperson Kar Rubius.

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» I.

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» Motion passes.

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» Okay. Thank you. Moving on to item two,

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development plan 25-15 for the Highland

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Senior Affordable Housing Development.

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Is there staff presentation?

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Thank you, Chairperson Kov Rubius.

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Um, so as you said, the next project is

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uh for a a 100% affordable project uh

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located at uh 298 Nibckt Road. We've

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been calling it the Highlands Senior

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Affordable uh Apartments.

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So location, um like I said, 298 NibLick

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Road. This is uh just east of South

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River Road on Nibck Road. Uh you can see

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a few landmarks there. Walmart in the

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bottom left corner, Albertson's in the

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top left corner, Kennedy Club down there

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towards the middle bottom. Um, so this

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is as you climb up Nimble Road from

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South River Road, there's a vacant

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parcel. Um, it's it's got some slope to

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it. Uh, there's uh we'll talk about some

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of the site features in the next slide.

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So, the site is uh just over two acres

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in size. Uh, there is a jurisdictional

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creek that runs through the property. um

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this project actually completely avoids

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um any impacts to that creek. There's

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also an open space easement that was

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created by a previous parcel map. Um the

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the open space easement spans from um

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both the property that we're talking

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about this evening and then onto the

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property to the south which uh is part

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of the Highlands commercial center uh

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there where Highlands Church is there at

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the bottom of the screen. Um and so this

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is an open space easement. No

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development, no grading is allowed in

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this green area. Um it is largely to

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protect that creek and then also um to

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uh protect the oak trees. There is in

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addition a pedestrian bike and

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pedestrian path. Um I referred to it as

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the Highlands path in the staff report.

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Um my understanding is the uh high

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school cross country team refers it to

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that. I don't know if it has a a more

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official title. Um the property is in

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the regional commercial zoning district.

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That is a a strictly commercial zone.

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However, uh the um mixeduse overlay has

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been applied to this project in 2020 as

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a part of the um housing element update.

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Uh the uh mixeduse overlay was applied

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to the site as were 20 surplus uh

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surplus density units uh were allocated

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to the site by the city council. So in

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2020, the city council decided that this

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was an appropriate place for residential

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for a residential development. Um and

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they did allocate 20 residential units

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to the site.

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So, the project that we're here to

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consider this evening um is, as I said,

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a 100% uh rentrestricted affordable

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project. Uh the uh project will be

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limited to seniors over 55 years of age.

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They will be um uh no more than 30 to

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60% of what's called the AMI, the

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average Oh, I got myself into this.

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Average median income. Um and so uh they

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by state law are um they have uh they

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are entitled to an 80% density bonus and

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five concessions per state law.

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Concessions are uh forgivenesses

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essentially for development standards

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that will reduce the the cost and make

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it more feasible for a developer to to

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build affordable units. Obviously

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they're going to be getting less rent

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over time. And so the idea is to

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incentivize these developments and um to

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make them more affordable for the

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developer. Um so as I said they are um

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eligible for an 80% density bonus. The

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applicant is requesting a 50% density

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bonus. So they are uh looking to have 30

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residential units on the site. The units

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would be um and there's the open space

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easement. That's that animation there.

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Um there is one building proposed on the

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site. It's a three-story building.

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Inside that building there would be 25

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one-bedroom units and five two-bedroom

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units. Um the applicant is requesting

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five concessions which they are entitled

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to by state law. The first would allow

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the building to be taller than what's

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allowed in the zoning district. Uh the

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second would allow the foundation

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height. We in our hillside uh grading

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standards, we have limitations on how uh

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tall exposed foundations can be. And so

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this project uh requests a concession

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for uh how tall that foundation height

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is. In addition, there's a request for a

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parking reduction, a request to reduce

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the amount of shade that needs to be um

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provided to that parking area, and then

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also a reduction in the amount of open

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space. I think something to keep in mind

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as we go through this project is uh that

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this is a senior project. So, the folks

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who are living here are, you know, more

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mature individuals and uh over 55 in gen

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over 55. Um and so uh um like I said

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more in general more mature um uh

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population.

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So uh the first concession is about

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building height. So um in the regional

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commercial zoning district maximum

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height of 32 feet are allowed. Um the

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building from the foundation the

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finished floor to the top of the

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building is uh uh 37 1/2 ft tall. Um the

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way we measure height though is to take

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the average uh from where the building

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touches the ground from the the lowest

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point to the highest point and then we

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take so the average of that to the

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highest point of the building. So the

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red line on the right is actually how

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the zoning code would um describe the

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height of this building which is uh 44

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feet and 7 and 12 in. The fire

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department has analyzed this building.

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We've got other buildings in town that

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are taller than this building. Um the

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fire department can fight a fire here.

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they can respond to emergencies. It just

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happens to be taller than what's allowed

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in this commercial zone. Um you'll

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notice we're looking um uh in the top

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right at that site plan, you can see

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more or less where we're looking at this

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building. So this is we're looking from

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Niblick Road at the building. Um the the

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the building will you the most of what

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you'll see from the building the massing

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of the building from N Neibuk Road will

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be that shorter elevation the 37 uh feet

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6 inches just a small portion of the

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building um is going to be that taller

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that taller height uh that will uh be

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somewhat hidden by the hillside.

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So the second concession that is

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requested is for the exposed foundation

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height. Um the exposed foundation

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basically below the finished floor. The

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average height of that foundation is 11

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feet and 8 in. Um 9 ft is what is

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allowed by the code the average height.

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So this is taller than what would be

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allowed, but you can see in the site

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plan up to the top right that that um

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that elevation does not face a street.

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It faces the oak tree. So this is going

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to be an elevation that's largely hidden

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from public view. In addition, you'll

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notice that that foundation um has uh

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some steps [clears throat] front,

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forward, and back. This is not a a solid

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plane um where the building just has a

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you know, immense massive feel because

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of a a large foundation wall. Um and so

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this is the second concession that the

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applicant is requesting. Um the second

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of five that they are entitled to.

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The third and fourth concessions are

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related to parking. um 54 parking spaces

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would be required for a market rate uh

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project of this size uh for the number

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of one and two-bedroom units and the

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guest parking. Um as you'll recall,

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there are 30 units proposed and there

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are 38 parking spaces. Um uh um the

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applicant is proposing 38 parking

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spaces. So this would be one of their

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concessions. Um I I believe when the

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applicant is um uh comes to speak,

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she'll provide some um some parking

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statistics. the uh Pastor Robus Housing

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Authority and the Affordable Housing um

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development corporation operate two uh

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senior uh apartment complexes in town.

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One recently finished the Riverwalk

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Terrace which is in the Walmart center.

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So they've got some um really up-to-date

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parking data on what these projects uh

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the parking demand actually is for these

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projects. Um they've also the Pastor

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Robels Housing Authority has been

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operating the Cetaughter Apartments up

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on Park Street near the Oak Park um

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apartments for many years and so they've

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got some longerterm parking data for

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that project as well. Um so those are

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both uh deed restricted uh um senior

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housing projects we have here in Pastor

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Robels. We have real data on how much

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parking is required and so this is the

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amount of parking that the applicant um

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feels that uh the project will demand

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and that is their request. Um the fourth

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concession, the uh municipal code

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requires shade trees in our parking

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lots. Um they are meant to provide 25%

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shade at at five years. Um this project

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uh as the trees are proposed would

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provide 17% uh shade at maturity, which

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is longer than five years. Um the

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applicant did point out that the

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building will shade um that the kind of

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more eastern um parking area uh you know

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from a lot of the afternoon sun because

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it is a relatively tall building.

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So the fifth and final concession is

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related to open space. Uh multifamily

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projects in the um mixeduse uh overlay

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are required to have 100 square feet of

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private open space per unit and 100

547
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,799
square feet of common open space per

548
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,440
unit. This project uh uh provides about

549
00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:33,279
half of that space. Um each unit has a

550
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,520
private patio. They're about 50 square

551
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:37,760
feet in size. And then there is some

552
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:41,120
shared space uh in the darker green

553
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:43,360
color. Uh there's an indoor um uh

554
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:45,440
meeting room and and reading room. And

555
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:48,080
then there's an outdoor patio uh where

556
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,720
the the the uh residents will be able to

557
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,559
uh congregate and and recreate. Um as

558
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,520
I've mentioned several times, this is a

559
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:59,120
senior project. And so, um, while the

560
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:01,600
open space is, uh, reduced, uh, this is

561
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:03,440
an older population, it's also, um,

562
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,520
close to the bike and pedestrian path to

563
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,440
the south of the creek, um, relatively

564
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,200
close to Larry Moore Park and also the

565
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,760
river, uh, the riverwalk along the

566
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,760
Selenus River.

567
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:16,159
So, now jumping into the elevations of

568
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,720
the building, this is the front

569
00:27:16,159 --> 00:27:21,360
elevation that uh, that faces north. Um,

570
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,720
is somewhat oriented to to Niblick Road.

571
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:25,120
Um, you can see this is a well

572
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:29,039
articulated building. A lot of window uh

573
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:30,960
window and and uh balcony openings um uh

574
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:32,960
and different uh sighting materials.

575
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,559
There's both shingles and horizontal

576
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,320
sighting on the on the sides.

577
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:40,000
This is a look at the side elevations.

578
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,760
We've already seen the elevation on the

579
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,480
right side. That's the west that kind of

580
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,640
faces Nibl Road. uh the building uh the

581
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,640
elevation on the left would face to the

582
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,840
east and would not be visible from uh

583
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,840
very many vantage points offsite. And

584
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,600
then finally, this is al we've also seen

585
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,080
this elevation. This is the re rear

586
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,919
elevation. Um this will face the oak

587
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,760
trees along the creek. And so this isn't

588
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:03,760
an elevation that that will really be

589
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,840
visible from um from offsite for the

590
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,840
most part.

591
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:11,600
Colors and materials. uh the applicant

592
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,240
has, you know, it's a relatively muted

593
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,720
uh attractive mix of colors, some uh

594
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,840
browns and and tans and then the doors

595
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,279
would be blue in color. Um and so um

596
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,720
don't have much to share on this, you

597
00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:27,080
know, but this is the color scheme that

598
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,080
we would we we will expect.

599
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,880
So, uh with the 2024 zoning code update,

600
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,799
the planning commission made

601
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,360
recommendation to council to adopt

602
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:37,360
objective design standards. Um and so

603
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:39,279
the way our objective design standards

604
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:41,200
work are depending on the size of the

605
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:43,279
building both the number of units and

606
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,840
the length of or you know the the size

607
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:48,080
the literal uh uh width of the building

608
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,159
there are a number of of standards that

609
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,159
have to be met and so the standards are

610
00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:54,480
broken into different tiers and then

611
00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:57,600
depending on the size of the project um

612
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,360
the num it dictates how many of those

613
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,880
design standards you have to meet. The

614
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,039
idea is with smaller buildings, they

615
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,200
don't tend to be quite as massive if

616
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:07,279
they aren't the um the most artic art

617
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,520
articulated building or the most or

618
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:12,000
ornate buildings. Um they're smaller in

619
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,720
scale and so they're you know uh they

620
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,880
are uh less visible from offsite. So

621
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,360
bigger buildings have to provide more of

622
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,440
the uh the standards. So for a project

623
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,200
of this site of size uh they have to

624
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,480
provide all of the tier one standards

625
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,240
and those are things like uh the

626
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,240
orientation of the front porch in the

627
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,600
building. uh they have to provide window

628
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,679
openings of a specific percentage 15% in

629
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,520
this case. They have to break up walls

630
00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:38,080
so we don't have large massive walls

631
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,360
with uh no articulation. Um they've got

632
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,039
to provide in the tier 2 um uh standards

633
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,360
they've got to provide two strategies.

634
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:46,960
You can see them listed there. Um the

635
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,279
applicant is providing balconies and

636
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,880
some vertical wall elements. Um, I'm not

637
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,720
going to belabor going through each of

638
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,200
these, but suffice to say that the

639
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:59,080
project uh meets uh uh each of its

640
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,080
objective design standards.

641
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,520
Um the project is on a site that has

642
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,600
quite a bit of slope and so I wanted to

643
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,720
go through some of the um the sections

644
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:15,679
the the uh the uh um the grading and how

645
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,279
the project will look um uh as after

646
00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:19,840
it's constructed. So in the bottom right

647
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:21,919
we see the grading plan and then um I'm

648
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,760
going to hone in on this section here.

649
00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:25,360
So this red line is cutting through the

650
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,399
building in the parking lot and we're

651
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,880
going to look like we're going to look

652
00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:30,880
at what that grading will look like. Um

653
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,960
so here we see on the left um we're

654
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,440
looking at a cross-section through the

655
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,360
building. Um in blue is the is the

656
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,000
building. Um you can see that there is

657
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,720
quite a bit of um there is some cut. Uh

658
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,279
there is a maximum cut of 15 feet in

659
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:49,120
height to create the parking lot. there

660
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:51,279
is a um a fill of 14 feet in height. Um

661
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,120
those those are really restrained though

662
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:55,919
to where development is occurring. There

663
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,679
aren't many uh fill slopes. Um they're

664
00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:00,320
using retaining walls to really restrain

665
00:30:57,679 --> 00:31:02,559
how much grading needs to occur um to

666
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,640
provide these 30 units. Um you'll also

667
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:06,799
notice that the site uh is pretty

668
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,559
balanced. Uh the amount of cut and fill

669
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:10,720
are pretty close. They will need to

670
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:12,720
import a little bit of soil. Uh I think

671
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,120
it looks like about 300 cubic yards, a

672
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,200
little less than that. um but relatively

673
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,080
balanced site.

674
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,640
I will also note uh on the right uh the

675
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,320
retaining walls shown there in yellow uh

676
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,799
those are each six-ft retaining walls

677
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,039
and those do meet the maximum height uh

678
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:31,279
and separation for retaining walls. So

679
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:33,120
those uh uh retaining walls do meet our

680
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:36,399
standards. Um when we jump into

681
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,320
landscape uh um requirements, um you'll

682
00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:40,240
see that staff is recommending um some

683
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,919
trailing plants, possibly rosemary at

684
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,080
the top of that upper retaining wall to

685
00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:45,679
kind of break up its appearance. Um and

686
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,640
so those are the retaining walls I'll be

687
00:31:45,679 --> 00:31:48,159
talking about when we get to

688
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,960
landscaping.

689
00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:52,880
Looking at another um uh section. So now

690
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,039
we're looking through the that kind of

691
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,200
upper parking lot looking back towards

692
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:58,559
the building. Um this section just

693
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,399
misses the building. So, you can see

694
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:02,799
that there'll be a fill slope between

695
00:32:00,399 --> 00:32:04,720
the building and the parking lot. Um,

696
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:06,240
and some fill there. I think I've got an

697
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,399
animation. That's where the little patio

698
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,000
is. And there is some fill. Oops. Below

699
00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:12,480
it, it looks like my animation didn't

700
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,320
work. But um, so again, there is some

701
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,519
fill, but it really is constrained. You

702
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,600
can see on the um

703
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:21,679
um on the left is where the sidewalk is

704
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,679
located. The building will be pretty

705
00:32:21,679 --> 00:32:25,840
close to at the same grade with the with

706
00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:29,279
the with the uh with Nibck Road and with

707
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,279
the adjacent sidewalk.

708
00:32:29,679 --> 00:32:34,559
And finally, uh there is also a section

709
00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:36,399
uh provided through the the long parking

710
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:38,559
lot and then closer to the driveway

711
00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:41,039
entrance. Um you can see there uh there

712
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,559
is some fill um but it is uh compared to

713
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:45,760
the size of that parking lot and the

714
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:48,640
slope of the lot. It is relatively uh uh

715
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,559
um it is a relatively small amount of

716
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:54,000
fill slope that we'll be seeing um when

717
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:55,840
this project is complete.

718
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,840
Um jumping into the landscape plan. This

719
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,679
is the plan that the applicant had uh

720
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,200
had brought to the the development

721
00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:03,279
review committee. Um one of the

722
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,120
questions staff had for the DRC was is

723
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:06,880
this adequate landscaping. We do have

724
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,760
standards in our municipal code that

725
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,279
require unused areas, yards that don't,

726
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,120
you know, aren't covered by parking lots

727
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:15,039
and buildings and so forth or hidden

728
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,200
behind fences that they are meant to be

729
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:18,799
landscaped. Um and the the development

730
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,720
review committee felt like it would be

731
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:22,880
appropriate to have some oak tree

732
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,880
plantings in the more natural areas that

733
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,960
aren't going to get formal landscaping

734
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,600
in order to comply with that landscaping

735
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,919
requirement. Um staff prepared this uh

736
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,159
this uh exhibit uh that is provided in

737
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:36,799
the staff report. This is just to try to

738
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:38,399
um capture what we heard from the DRC.

739
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:39,919
Um, and so there is a condition of

740
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:42,080
approval that would require, I believe

741
00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:44,399
it's 15 oak trees to be planted in

742
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,559
clusters and kind of natural clusters on

743
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:48,159
the undeveloped portions of the lot.

744
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,919
It'll help to soften the appearance of

745
00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:52,000
those and be relatively easy to

746
00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:53,600
maintain. I mentioned um that there are

747
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,880
some retaining walls along the east side

748
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,240
of that eastern uh uh um parking area.

749
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,080
And so you'll see that the trailing

750
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,919
plants are recommended above that upper

751
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,080
retaining wall. And then there was a

752
00:34:01,919 --> 00:34:05,919
little landscape planter adjacent to the

753
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,679
garbage enclosure that should also be

754
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:11,280
included in the landscape plan.

755
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,679
Um, here's a quick look at the floor

756
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,359
plans. As I said, this is a mix of one

757
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:18,079
and twobedroom units. So, this is the

758
00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:19,839
first floor. There is an area where it's

759
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:22,399
a residence center. There's an outdoor

760
00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:24,159
deck that uh points towards the uh oak

761
00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:26,320
woodland. They'll provide a nice space

762
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:28,960
and there's a reading room. So, there is

763
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,280
um some nice indoor shared recreation

764
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,359
space. There's also a laundry room on

765
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,919
the first floor. The second and third

766
00:34:33,359 --> 00:34:38,240
floors are relatively similar. Um, and

767
00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:39,839
so there is um there's no common open

768
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:42,159
space on the second and third floors,

769
00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:44,240
but there is laundry on each floor. And

770
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:49,240
so there will be uh laundry facilities

771
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:49,240
for for um residents on each floor.

772
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,520
Um there was a pre previous iteration of

773
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:57,520
this project that was approved I believe

774
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:59,520
in 2021. Um that project was 20 uh units

775
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,480
that would have been market rate units.

776
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,320
Um at that time the project included a a

777
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,040
secondary driveway that would have

778
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,960
required alterations to the creek. It

779
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,760
would have required uh the removal of an

780
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,240
oak tree and it would have also um a lot

781
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,920
of grading, biological impacts, an oak

782
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:18,160
tree removal and then also would have

783
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,520
been a somewhat awkward egress um that

784
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,359
would have gone through the Highlands

785
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,800
Church parking lot. the applicant had

786
00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:25,359
the right to do that, but it was a

787
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,920
fairly awkward uh solution. This project

788
00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:30,800
would eliminate that uh that secondary

789
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:34,480
egress and instead uh it will be

790
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:36,800
restricting uh um left turns in into and

791
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,560
out of the site. So to enter this site,

792
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,880
you would have to be traveling eastbound

793
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,880
and make a right turn into the project.

794
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,320
When you're uh exiting the site, you

795
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,200
have to make a right turn. I think I've

796
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,480
got um some um animations there. If

797
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,200
you're leaving the site, you need to

798
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,119
make a right turn and head east. Um, as

799
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,800
I've stated multiple times, this is a

800
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:56,560
senior population and so we hope that

801
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,800
we'll see good compliance with these

802
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,640
rules. Um, but there will be a median.

803
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,320
You see it in yellow there. Um, that

804
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,000
will be um, [clears throat]

805
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,240
uh, required to be installed. It will

806
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,000
restrict movements for cars. Um, there

807
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,760
is a requirement that the median be

808
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,440
mountable for fire trucks, garbage

809
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,920
trucks, big trucks that need to come on

810
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,160
to the site and provide emergency and

811
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,960
other services to the site. But regular

812
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,800
cars will have to um make right turns to

813
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,480
to get inside and out of the project.

814
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,480
And that's due to sight distance. There

815
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,720
is uh you're of course climbing NibL

816
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,760
Road here and it starts to turn uh off

817
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:35,520
to the uh kind of southeast or more west

818
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,680
I suppose it is. Um uh and so it's uh

819
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,839
there is limited sight distance and so

820
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:43,920
for folks entering and exiting the site

821
00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:46,000
this is to ensure safe movements.

822
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,375
Um we did receive two public comments,

823
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,119
written public comments. Um the

824
00:36:47,375 --> 00:36:52,480
[clears throat] first had a list of 11

825
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:54,320
items. Um the second uh uh comment was

826
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,160
uh exclusively about parking, which is

827
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,040
the second comment that the uh written

828
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:01,839
comment u made. I've uh got them listed

829
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,200
here. Um and so we can um dive in as

830
00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:04,560
much as the planning commission would

831
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,560
like to. We've also got the city

832
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,040
engineer here this evening and she can

833
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,520
explain the the traffic and greeting um

834
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,440
better than I have. Um the first public

835
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,599
comment was that the entry in egress is

836
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,839
flawed and dangerous. We have vetted

837
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:20,320
this with the fire department with the

838
00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:22,160
um with our transportation consultant.

839
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,480
Um we explored a lot of different

840
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,040
options, different ways to provide

841
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,720
egress and ingress in this site and and

842
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,640
really it's come down to this pork chop

843
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:33,200
and it being the most uh feasible

844
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,200
solution. Um and it has been determined

845
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,000
by the engineering team that this would

846
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:41,520
be would create safe movements into and

847
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:43,760
out of the site. Um the second uh uh uh

848
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,440
um comment was about having inadequate

849
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,359
parking. As I mentioned, the second

850
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,079
comment letter we got was also about the

851
00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:51,839
parking exception. Um the applicant will

852
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:54,960
provide us some parking numbers, but

853
00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:56,400
they um I was surprised how low um she

854
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,880
she provided the numbers at the

855
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,560
development review committee meeting. Um

856
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,839
and they're they're they're they're

857
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,839
quite low. um and the parking uh rate

858
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:07,680
that that would be expected uh they'll

859
00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:09,680
be covered by the the spaces that are

860
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,680
provided. But more importantly, state

861
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,520
law does say if the applicant requests

862
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,920
this concession, they are entitled to

863
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,680
this concession. Um the third comment

864
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,839
was about excessive grading. I've

865
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,240
provided some slides about how the the

866
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:23,920
project has constrained grading to the

867
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:26,240
degree possible. You can see on the

868
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:29,040
right there, this is a sloping site. Uh

869
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:30,880
also constrained um by the oak trees. Uh

870
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,800
so there was limited room. uh the

871
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,440
applicant kept the building on the some

872
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,839
of the least uh steeply sloping part of

873
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,680
the lot and um compared to the project

874
00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:41,839
that was approved uh five or so years

875
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,599
ago um this project actually is quite a

876
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:45,280
bit less grading. The previous project

877
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:48,400
actually was going to lay back that

878
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,640
upper hill and um and put some

879
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,440
additional structures uh closer to the

880
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,839
apartments to the east.

881
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Um the uh excuse me the uh public

882
00:38:55,839 --> 00:39:00,880
comments uh uh made a a comment about

883
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,880
the creek setbacks. Um, this project

884
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,880
stays completely outside of the open

885
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,520
space easement which was the setbacks

886
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,640
that were established for this uh site.

887
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:13,839
Um, the applicant, excuse me, I keep uh

888
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,599
misspeaking. The public uh comment um

889
00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:17,520
mentioned that storm water runoff has

890
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:19,680
been inadequately addressed. At this

891
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,400
time, we do have preliminary storm water

892
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,680
um uh calculations um that the

893
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,920
engineering team has has uh um reviewed.

894
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,160
Um those do get refined as we go into

895
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,240
grading and building permits. Um but uh

896
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,480
the city engineer has determined that it

897
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:36,560
is feasible to address uh the storm

898
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,680
water that will be generated by the

899
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,520
project. Um the uh public comment was

900
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,680
concerned that there are too many units.

901
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,240
As I said, the city council did allocate

902
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,920
20 units to the site and state law says

903
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:49,760
that this applicant is entitled actually

904
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,079
to even more units. If they wanted a

905
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,640
larger uh density bonus, they could have

906
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:57,040
requested an 80% density bonus. They

907
00:39:54,640 --> 00:40:00,000
just they uh develop they designed a

908
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,760
project that um got as many units as

909
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,520
they possibly could, but it it actually

910
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:07,359
didn't maximize the number that they

911
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:09,040
could uh request. Um the uh public

912
00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:11,440
comment uh claimed that the community

913
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,040
has been unable or is unable to absorb

914
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,200
the all the rental housing that's coming

915
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,440
onto the market. I believe the applicant

916
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,079
will provide some numbers, but the two

917
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,560
uh projects that came online last year,

918
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:26,000
the Riverwalk Terrace and the Sunrise

919
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:27,760
Villas um are entirely uh uh occupied as

920
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,680
I understand, those are both um

921
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,520
affordable projects and there are long

922
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,320
waiting lists to get into those

923
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,920
developments. So um uh you know, the

924
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,599
city's understanding and the applicant's

925
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,680
understanding is that there is is

926
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:43,200
certainly demand for affordable housing

927
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:46,640
in our community. The public comment uh

928
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,880
uh uh stated that the um that the the

929
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,119
lands might be Native American ancestral

930
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,960
lands. As I mentioned, there were um

931
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:55,520
there was a previous project on the

932
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,040
site. That project included uh impacts

933
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,960
to the creek and so there was a

934
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,040
mitigated negative declaration prepared

935
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,359
for that project. one of the mitigation

936
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,680
measures that um or there was an

937
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:08,000
archaeological report created for that

938
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,040
project and the archaeologist found no

939
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:14,000
evidence of of any uh um Native American

940
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:16,000
cultural um artifacts or any impacts

941
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,319
there on the site. Um there was a

942
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,599
mitigation measure that required a a

943
00:41:18,319 --> 00:41:22,000
Native American tribe or an

944
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:24,480
archaeologist to monitor uh ground

945
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,040
disturbance. That mitigation measure was

946
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,960
inadvertently left out of the the the

947
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,960
proposed resolution. So staff will be

948
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,520
recommending that that requirement to

949
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,520
monitor will be readded to the uh to

950
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,760
this project um and to address any

951
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,960
potential impacts to um Native American

952
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,119
cultural uh artifacts. Um the applicant

953
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,319
or excuse me the p the public comment

954
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:46,640
mentioned that the project would be

955
00:41:44,319 --> 00:41:48,960
unsightely from Highway 101. Um I've got

956
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,119
some slides we'll jump into um and the

957
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,760
the next slide that try to give an idea

958
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,920
of what the what the uh this the project

959
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,680
would look like from um the freeway.

960
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,119
It's a little hard to assess, but um we

961
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,040
can certainly look at that. Um the uh

962
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:04,720
project actually eliminates all oak tree

963
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,480
removals. There will be no oak trees

964
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:08,480
removed as a part of this project. The

965
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,400
previous iteration did remove one oak

966
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,880
tree. Um and actually the project will

967
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,920
be planting at least 15 oak trees on the

968
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,079
site. Um so there'll actually be a net

969
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,079
benefit in oak trees. And then there was

970
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:21,520
a claim that the um the view that there

971
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:23,680
was a viewshed that's a protected

972
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,880
viewshed to the south of the site. As I

973
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,720
mentioned, there is an open space

974
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,400
easement, and that uh easement is uh

975
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:30,880
both to protect the oak trees and the

976
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,640
the seasonal creek. It also houses the

977
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,359
pedestrian path that's to the south of

978
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,280
the creek. Um there was no viewshed uh

979
00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:39,440
um uh limit on that. There was no

980
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,200
protection of the view. Um and the

981
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:45,119
portion of the of the lot not in that

982
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:48,079
open space uh was left for development.

983
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:50,000
So, this next slide uh is intended to um

984
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:52,480
looks like I've got an animation I

985
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,440
didn't intend. um is to to give an idea

986
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,359
of the um relative height. The the

987
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,680
comment came from uh one of the owners

988
00:42:57,359 --> 00:43:01,760
from the Alder Creek condominiums. Um

989
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:06,000
this project would have a finished floor

990
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,920
of uh at 760 ft. The building is 37 and

991
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,680
1/2 ft tall from that finished floor. So

992
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,040
you can see in blue that's um the

993
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,560
maximum height of the building will be

994
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:18,319
at 797 and 1/2 ft. the Alder Creek

995
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:20,880
Apartments approximately at 781 feet

996
00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:24,079
judging by uh the the the topo lines and

997
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,920
the grading plan. So, um uh the roof of

998
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:28,160
the building will be, you know, a little

999
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,520
taller than the the foundation of Alder

1000
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,040
Creek. Alder Creek's about it's a

1001
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,119
two-story building. I don't know how

1002
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,440
tall those buildings are, but largely

1003
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:38,720
the uh this building will actually be

1004
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:41,200
below um the Alder Creek uh apartments.

1005
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:42,880
Um the red line, the red dotted line is

1006
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,680
definitely not to scale. The width of

1007
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:48,720
the the horizontal uh dimension is not

1008
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:54,599
to scale um in this this image, but the

1009
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:54,599
uh vertical scale is is to uh to scale.

1010
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,040
This is my attempt. So this is a Google

1011
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,440
Street view. I didn't go out on onto the

1012
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,200
freeway exit. Um but this is a Google

1013
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,400
Street view so we can kind of get an

1014
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,920
idea. Um the few uh points of interest

1015
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,400
you can see to the far right that's the

1016
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,640
Kennedy Club building. Um a a building

1017
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,160
that sits you know close to this

1018
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,400
building. Um and it is it is a

1019
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,640
prominently uh visible uh building from

1020
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,240
the freeway. Um I don't know the name of

1021
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,480
the condos that are at the top of Oak

1022
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:24,800
Hill but that's them there um towards

1023
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,200
the middle of the image. the Alder Creek

1024
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,359
apartments there are pointed to and then

1025
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,200
the the site where Highlands will uh be

1026
00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:32,960
located and we've already seen they'll

1027
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,200
be lower than the Alder Creek uh

1028
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,280
apartments by a bit but they're there to

1029
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,680
the left. So certainly they will add to

1030
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:42,000
what you can see on the hillside. Um but

1031
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:45,760
there are a lot of visual visual impacts

1032
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,280
that that exist. Um

1033
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,560
so here's a look at the street view of

1034
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,079
the actual site. You can see the

1035
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,520
Highlands Church there on the right and

1036
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:54,880
then the Alder Creek apartments are

1037
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,880
there on the far left.

1038
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,920
So, um, jumping into what's in the

1039
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,920
resolution, um, there are a, you know, a

1040
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:03,520
laundry list of conditions of approval.

1041
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,359
These are just summaries and they don't

1042
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,960
include all the conditions of approval.

1043
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:08,880
Those are in the draft resolution in

1044
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,720
your staff report this evening. The

1045
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,440
sixth and seventh uh conditions of

1046
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:15,440
approval require um affordability

1047
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,920
agreements that are related to um

1048
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:21,280
restricting these units to uh low-income

1049
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:25,440
households. Those in the 30 to 60% um

1050
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,960
AMI, the uh average um I keep I

1051
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,560
shouldn't put myself in that position

1052
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,920
where I have to think about what the AMI

1053
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:34,000
is is the average um mean income. I

1054
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,079
think I've got that wrong. Um but the

1055
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,760
the project will be required to go into

1056
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:41,440
agreements with the city that the units

1057
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:43,359
will be um affordable for 55 years. Um

1058
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,839
there is a requirement that the project

1059
00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:48,079
comply with the city's um new dark sky

1060
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:50,000
lighting requirements. Um they'll have

1061
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:52,319
to provide adequate laundry facilities

1062
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,599
for the project. Uh retaining walls will

1063
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:58,400
need to be mason mason masonry material

1064
00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:00,800
uh textured concrete or similar. Um we

1065
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,560
discussed the landscaping uh that they

1066
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,200
need to include 15 native trees that

1067
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,880
will be uh scattered on the site. Um

1068
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,560
some trailing plants above the retaining

1069
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,319
wall and landscaping adjacent to the

1070
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,640
garbage enclosure. They will need to

1071
00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:15,040
plant some additional street trees. Um

1072
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,800
there's uh um some existing landscaping

1073
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,520
and irrigation that is maintained by the

1074
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,839
city, but it's got some gaps and so um

1075
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,079
conditions 13 and 14 would require that

1076
00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:26,560
landscaping and irrigation to be uh

1077
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:28,720
repaired. And then um the applicant does

1078
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,240
intend to put some signs on the site. We

1079
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:32,079
didn't get details of those. So when

1080
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:33,760
those come in um with building permits,

1081
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:36,720
we'll bring those back to the DRC for

1082
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:39,599
their review.

1083
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:41,599
Um the then this slide here has some of

1084
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:43,359
the engineering conditions. There is a

1085
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:45,200
long condition related to circulation.

1086
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:47,440
We talked about the fact that the turn

1087
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,880
movements will need to be um limited.

1088
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,119
They'll need to make some ADA

1089
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,520
improvements and some signage and um

1090
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:55,119
striping and so forth. Um, they will

1091
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,880
also need to replace the median

1092
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:58,960
landscaping and they'll need to provide

1093
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,720
a new surface for the driveway entrance,

1094
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,560
the kind of turn pocket that enters the

1095
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:04,800
site. As I said, this is not a

1096
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,599
comprehensive list that is there in your

1097
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,280
draft resolution.

1098
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:11,119
Um, there are findings that the planning

1099
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,960
commission needs to make. A lot of them

1100
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:14,960
are about the project being consistent

1101
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,960
with the goals and policies of our of

1102
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:20,160
our city, the general plan, the zoning

1103
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,800
ordinance, um the uh any other plans and

1104
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,240
and standards of the city. Um there are

1105
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,319
condition or excuse me, findings

1106
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,920
provided in the resolution uh that the

1107
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:30,400
the planning commission can use to

1108
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,680
approve the project. In addition, um

1109
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,280
you're finding that the project

1110
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,119
accommodates the aesthetic quality of

1111
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,040
the city and that it's compatible with

1112
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:40,040
the existing scenic and environmental

1113
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,040
resources.

1114
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,240
Um the project uh staff is recommending

1115
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,319
that the project be found exempt from

1116
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,160
environmental review as a class 32

1117
00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:50,000
categorical exemption. These are

1118
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,440
exemptions for infill development. They

1119
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,280
have to be on sites less than five

1120
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,599
acres. They have to be substantially

1121
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,920
surrounded by other urban uses and not

1122
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:59,839
have any um significant impacts to

1123
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,319
things like traffic, noise, air quality,

1124
00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:05,280
and water quality. So there's a what's

1125
00:48:02,319 --> 00:48:06,960
called a notice of um exemption that's

1126
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,560
provided in the resolution that goes

1127
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,240
through all the reasons why this project

1128
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,680
is exempt from SQUA.

1129
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:15,359
As always, the planning commission has

1130
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,040
options. The first would be to approve

1131
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:19,520
the project by adopting the draft

1132
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,359
resolution. Um uh that and the project

1133
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,440
would be approved based on findings and

1134
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:24,880
subject to the conditions of approval.

1135
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,280
Uh the planning commission could approve

1136
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,040
the project with modifications uh to the

1137
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,000
conditions of approval or to the project

1138
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,079
itself by adopting the u by amending and

1139
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,760
adopting the draft resolution. If you

1140
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:37,839
feel you need more information, you can

1141
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,240
refer the project back to the DRC or to

1142
00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:45,280
staff. Um or you could deny the project

1143
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:47,440
by adopting findings of denial. Um

1144
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,119
uh staff is making a recommendation for

1145
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,440
option two, which would be to approve

1146
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:53,200
the project. We are recommending a an

1147
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,760
additional condition of approval that

1148
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:59,040
would require monitoring of uh grading

1149
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,960
of the site. Uh would be u a a

1150
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,720
professional archaeologist would need to

1151
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,960
help create a cultural resource

1152
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:07,280
monitoring plan. And then there would be

1153
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,960
uh folks on site to make sure that

1154
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,680
nothing is uncovered during during

1155
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,839
grading and construction.

1156
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,880
And I believe that is uh that ends

1157
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:20,319
staff's report.

1158
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:23,280
» Thank you Katie. That was a lot. Um,

1159
00:49:20,319 --> 00:49:25,440
we'll get there. So, before before we

1160
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,960
get into questions, um, would the

1161
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:32,280
applicant like to make some comments?

1162
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,280
Yeah, absolutely.

1163
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:41,839
» Hi, good evening. My name is Lori Doyle.

1164
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,040
I'm executive vice president of

1165
00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:45,599
Affordable Housing Development

1166
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,559
Corporation. Um, we are the proposed

1167
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:49,839
co-developer of the Highlands 298 Nibble

1168
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:51,599
property that you're seeing in front of

1169
00:49:49,839 --> 00:49:53,520
you this evening. We're also partnered

1170
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:55,200
with the Pastor Robels Housing Authority

1171
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,960
and their new executive director, Nick

1172
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,640
Rasmmanson, is here with me tonight as

1173
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:03,280
well. Um, we have I' I've met with a few

1174
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,760
of you in the DRC meetings, but um, we

1175
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,839
have been a part of this community for a

1176
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,760
better part of a decade. We were uh

1177
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:12,000
partners with the housing authority for

1178
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,079
Oak Park 3 and four as well as Sunrise

1179
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,319
Villas and Riverwalk Terrace which Katie

1180
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:19,760
talked about earlier. Um most of these

1181
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:21,760
projects were um I say um a majority of

1182
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,359
the project uh but all those projects I

1183
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,280
mentioned were made possible because of

1184
00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:28,079
the cities both are political and their

1185
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,079
funding support um of the city of Paser

1186
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:31,599
Robas. So it was a partnership between

1187
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:33,599
my organization as well as the housing

1188
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:36,000
authority and the city as well. We

1189
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:37,680
always call the city our partner. Um, as

1190
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,400
Katie mentioned, um, we were

1191
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,720
recommended, um, unanimously by the DRC.

1192
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,880
So, we're here for your approval of our

1193
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:46,880
final entitlements for this project. Um,

1194
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,040
I did want to mention two, uh, I think

1195
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,760
I'm going to answer two questions, um,

1196
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,280
regarding parking and, um, absorption of

1197
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,079
affordable housing. So, I'll start with

1198
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,440
parking. Um, I'll start with Riverwalk

1199
00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,960
Terrace, which I think most of you are

1200
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,480
probably most familiar with. And this is

1201
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,880
kind of our sort of phase two of

1202
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,359
Riverwalk because it's just across South

1203
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:08,400
River Road from um the 79 units that

1204
00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:13,760
Riverwalk Terrace is. So that property

1205
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:16,079
has um 79 units and 82 parking parking

1206
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:19,200
stalls that are dedicated to that

1207
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:20,880
property. And um we do what we call like

1208
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,559
parking studies, parking counts. So we

1209
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,400
go out, we survey how many cars are out

1210
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:25,760
there. We we actually our managers

1211
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,359
become very close with our residents

1212
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,599
anyway. So we kind of know who's driving

1213
00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:30,880
what and we do surveys like during the

1214
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,319
day, during the weekend, during the

1215
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,240
night to figure out how many cars are

1216
00:51:32,319 --> 00:51:36,559
actually on site. So there's about 50%

1217
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:39,599
of those um spots are empty all the

1218
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:41,200
time. Um so out of the 82 spots, there's

1219
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:44,400
only about 40 or so that are actually

1220
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,480
full all the time. Um the housing

1221
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:50,160
authority is also a part of the CED

1222
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,920
daughter pro project which is um over

1223
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,079
off of I forget what number street it

1224
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,599
is, but it's south of Oak Park one. Um,

1225
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:59,119
so over on that on the north side of

1226
00:51:55,599 --> 00:52:01,200
town and that has 40 units total and

1227
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:03,440
they only have 34 spaces. Granted, that

1228
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:06,000
project was approved a long time ago and

1229
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,559
they're about at the same type of um

1230
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,480
open or um resident use [clears throat]

1231
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:12,079
or residents that have cars and guests

1232
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,720
that have cars. So about 50% of the

1233
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:16,960
stalls are open most of the time. Um,

1234
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:19,040
and then here we're actually, as you

1235
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,480
know, we're proposing 30 units and 38

1236
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,040
spaces. So, it's actually more than both

1237
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,640
of those um both of those projects that

1238
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,040
I just referenced and we would expect to

1239
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,520
have the same type of um parking

1240
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,880
situation there. So, I operate um

1241
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,319
affordable housing all over the state of

1242
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,319
California. I'm just giving you examples

1243
00:52:32,319 --> 00:52:36,319
here because it makes most sense to you

1244
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:37,599
all. Um but this is what we're seeing

1245
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:38,880
throughout our senior communities

1246
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:42,000
throughout the state of California as

1247
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:44,319
well. So, it's about 50% um have cars in

1248
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,400
55 and older communities. And in family

1249
00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:49,920
communities like Sunrise Villas, that's

1250
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,760
about 1.5 cars to one. So just for a

1251
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,440
little bit of perspective. And then

1252
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,960
relative to the weight list and the

1253
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,480
absorption of affordable housing, I

1254
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,000
think we're all aware that we we need

1255
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,480
more affordable housing. We need as much

1256
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:03,599
as we can get. Um Riverwalk Terrace,

1257
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,760
again, I'll compare the seniors. Um that

1258
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:08,640
property was fully occupied within a

1259
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,240
weekend. Um as soon as we opened it, all

1260
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,839
79 people wanted to move in one day. We

1261
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:13,760
had to spread it out. So, we had to make

1262
00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:15,680
it 3 or 4 days so it wasn't overwhelming

1263
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,359
for everybody. That property has an

1264
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:21,839
almost 700 person waiting list right

1265
00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:23,200
now. So, we are um expected to utilize

1266
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:25,280
that wait list when we open this

1267
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,359
property as well. Sunrise Villas, I know

1268
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,200
this is a big one. This is family. Um

1269
00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:31,839
there's 1500 people on our waiting list

1270
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,920
there. And Oak Park, um three and four,

1271
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:35,359
which I'm involved in, have over 700

1272
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,040
people on their weight list. So, those

1273
00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:39,920
are family projects. But just giving you

1274
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:42,319
some perspective, we have no doubt that

1275
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,960
we will absorb these units very quickly.

1276
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:46,880
And um also just to point out as part of

1277
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,480
our financing mechanism, we have to do a

1278
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,319
third party market study that they will

1279
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,440
come in and they will put it in writing

1280
00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:55,119
as to and they'll they'll do um kind of

1281
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,960
an audit of all the affordable housing

1282
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:59,200
and what's available and the need and

1283
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,280
they'll put this into into writing for

1284
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:04,480
us for our financing um mechanisms that

1285
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,400
we get from the state. So I think that's

1286
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,200
um all I have. I'm here for questions.

1287
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:13,040
Um Nick is as well. And um yeah, thank

1288
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:15,040
you for letting me be up here.

1289
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,400
» Thank you. All right, if you'll stand by

1290
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,680
close in case there are questions

1291
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,079
directly for you.

1292
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,760
» Thank you.

1293
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:22,480
» Um so we'll bring it back to the

1294
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:25,880
commission and uh we'll start over here,

1295
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,880
Commissioner Connley.

1296
00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:32,800
» Okay. Yeah. Um it was good that you went

1297
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:35,920
over the parking situation that it's

1298
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:38,800
similar development. It's only 50%.

1299
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:41,119
Um I'm wondering how much guest I mean

1300
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:44,079
uh staff parking there would be uh for

1301
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:47,040
this if if there's staff on on site that

1302
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:49,119
could take up some of the 38 parking

1303
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,559
spaces that are available.

1304
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:53,440
» Um the applicant may have more

1305
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:55,520
information. One of the units on of the

1306
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,000
30 will be a manager's unit and then

1307
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:00,240
there are two offices shown but uh one

1308
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,920
of the like I said one of the the staff

1309
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:04,960
will live on site so there'll be one of

1310
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,640
the 30 apartment tenants. Um but I uh

1311
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,240
you know there's 38 spots. My

1312
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,920
understanding is they don't intend to

1313
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:11,520
designate spots for any particular

1314
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,599
person.

1315
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:16,800
» Yeah. And also the parking discussion

1316
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:19,839
was somewhat good to hear that a similar

1317
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:22,079
type of senior living uh isn't full, but

1318
00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:24,640
I was concerned about overflow parking

1319
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:28,000
with guest parking potentially to the

1320
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:30,400
Highland church area or parking that's

1321
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,640
down the grade a little bit. But I I

1322
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,160
think uh the concern was alleviated with

1323
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:39,280
your comments. Uh wanted to ask uh about

1324
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,640
the the trash enclosure. I know it's a

1325
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,559
small thing, but I didn't see any

1326
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,040
architectural treatment for that. I

1327
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:47,599
assume it's going to be similar to the

1328
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,440
to the main building. I saw the location

1329
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:51,119
of it.

1330
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,280
» Yeah. I apologize for not including a

1331
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:56,480
slide. It is included in the the the

1332
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:59,119
resolution. Um it is um uh there it's

1333
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:02,160
block. It is um and I'm the type of

1334
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:04,000
block is is is giving me split face.

1335
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,599
Thank you very much. Split face block is

1336
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,520
the exterior of the the garbage

1337
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:11,359
enclosure.

1338
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:14,400
» Um this being a senior living community

1339
00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:17,920
just for my own education. uh what

1340
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:20,160
prevents someone uh that's not a senior,

1341
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:25,680
maybe has kids

1342
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:27,119
uh maybe under 55 from from uh occupying

1343
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,880
these these units.

1344
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:30,799
» Um as I said, there is an on-site

1345
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,240
manager. Um Lori, that's probably a

1346
00:56:30,799 --> 00:56:35,480
better question for you. How how that

1347
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:35,480
gets managed?

1348
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,040
So, in our lease, in the lease that they

1349
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,799
sign, um there's like affidavit that

1350
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,559
they have to sign that and obviously we

1351
00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:46,079
we we check the dates and all that stuff

1352
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:48,640
of their year, birth and all that sort

1353
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:50,799
of thing. Um there haven't been, again,

1354
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,319
I I do operate senior um housing

1355
00:56:50,799 --> 00:56:55,200
throughout California. There's very few

1356
00:56:52,319 --> 00:56:56,720
instances where um I I've heard people

1357
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,079
be worried about like grandparents

1358
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:00,319
raising children and things like that.

1359
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:02,240
That typically doesn't happen in in um

1360
00:57:00,319 --> 00:57:04,160
in in the communities at least that we

1361
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:07,040
operate. Um, and if there was like a

1362
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,640
long-term like a I don't know, for lack

1363
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,079
of better terms, a squatter, like a kid

1364
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,079
squatter or something like that, there's

1365
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:14,160
the the manager on site is very aware.

1366
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:16,640
Um, as you can imagine, especially with

1367
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,520
a small project like this, um, the

1368
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,359
manager will be very um much familiar

1369
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,280
with everybody and their and their

1370
00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:24,559
guests and their okay families.

1371
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,240
» Yeah. I just didn't know how. It's

1372
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:27,599
really it'd be a lease violation if

1373
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,280
there was anything that we found and

1374
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:31,760
then we would be able to

1375
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:35,040
» I assume that there's a like the oaks

1376
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,839
and other places have that same concern.

1377
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,319
» Okay. Mhm.

1378
00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:40,640
» Um and the only other minor concern is

1379
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:44,400
uh I noticed the retaining walls on the

1380
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:47,440
top of cuts um may have to have some

1381
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,920
safety rails and be concerned about the

1382
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,079
architectural treatment of that as well

1383
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,000
as we mentioned additional landscaping

1384
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:56,720
but staff presented something that I

1385
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,559
liked on that but the safety rails on

1386
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:01,119
the retaining walls might be needed and

1387
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:04,480
the architectural treatment of that. So

1388
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:08,160
that those are some things that I I'm

1389
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:10,799
concerned about. Thank you.

1390
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,520
» Thank you, sir. Commissioner Rhoden.

1391
00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:15,920
» Thank you, Chairman.

1392
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,520
Um I think I I think the thing that

1393
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,480
stands out for all of us that I brought

1394
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:24,079
up even at DRC was the the parking. I

1395
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:26,720
think you um attempting quite well

1396
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:28,640
eliminating some of those concerns. The

1397
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,799
only thing I would say the difference

1398
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:33,599
possibly is that at some of the other

1399
00:58:30,799 --> 00:58:36,799
sites there's other parking nearby that

1400
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:40,079
it's is accessible. I think this is

1401
00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:42,480
pretty isolated so that if you did have

1402
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:44,960
a lot of visitors during holidays or

1403
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,880
whatever that it might

1404
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:50,559
might be an issue where it is in other

1405
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:52,720
places just to keep in mind. Um and it

1406
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:55,119
it looks like on Nibck Road there's only

1407
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,799
a right turn in and a right turn out. Is

1408
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:58,319
that correct?

1409
00:58:56,799 --> 00:59:00,400
» Correct. There is currently a turn

1410
00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:03,200
pocket and and a right only right turns

1411
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:05,280
in the uh pork chop median that's shown.

1412
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,960
There you go. Yes. Only right turns will

1413
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,440
be allowed uh when you're leaving the

1414
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,240
site.

1415
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:12,079
» Is there going to be a guard in the

1416
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:16,079
center lane that prevents people from

1417
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:19,040
turning from that center lane?

1418
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:22,160
» The the lane going west.

1419
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,760
» Sure. The no the So there is a road and

1420
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,599
unfortunately the images we see here

1421
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,920
don't show it. uh quarter horse lane is

1422
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:29,839
just immediately to the north and we did

1423
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,839
explore I believe it's called a worm

1424
00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:34,000
median where it would really funnel the

1425
00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:36,160
traffic and and and restrict those those

1426
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,839
turns but it would impact the existing

1427
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,640
neighborhood to the north and so that

1428
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:43,119
that solution was um was taken off the

1429
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,280
table and the um the pork chop which

1430
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:47,839
will only impact this project and not

1431
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:50,319
the rest of the city um was was selected

1432
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:54,480
as the solution. So, I see what what

1433
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:55,839
happens out on Highway 46 with when we

1434
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,680
partitioned it to where you're not

1435
00:59:55,839 --> 01:00:00,079
supposed to make a left turn on on

1436
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,440
airport on the 46. I can't tell you how

1437
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:05,200
many trucks have been turning in front

1438
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:07,119
of me going east on 46. So, that that

1439
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,480
was one of my concerns that people

1440
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:11,520
aren't going to want to go down to the

1441
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,200
light, do a U-turn in both directions.

1442
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,200
» Commissioner Rhoden, I can speak a

1443
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,599
little bit to the pork chop as well. Um

1444
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,760
during design, a traditional pork chop

1445
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:21,359
was proposed uh by the applicant.

1446
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,839
However, the applicant then worked with

1447
01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:26,079
the city's traffic consultants to have a

1448
01:00:23,839 --> 01:00:28,079
more defined pork chop that really

1449
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:30,079
funnels traffic to the east because that

1450
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:30,880
was our traffic consultants concern as

1451
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,559
well. And

1452
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,440
» Is there a shaking finger there for

1453
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:37,440
people who

1454
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,359
» Uh yeah, it was identified during the

1455
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,960
planning entitlements and then will be

1456
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:42,960
further pursued in construction

1457
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,720
documents to make sure that the um

1458
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,760
appropriate pork chop geometry is

1459
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,960
installed there.

1460
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:51,839
» Thank you. I like the project. As you

1461
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:54,880
know, we have limited rentals in this in

1462
01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:58,160
this town. Very limited limited senior

1463
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:00,000
and lowincome rentals. Um, I like the

1464
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,680
area of where it's being proposed as

1465
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,559
well.

1466
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:06,880
That's it.

1467
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:08,400
» Thank you, Commissioner.

1468
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,400
Commissioner

1469
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,960
Commissioner Marlo.

1470
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,920
» Good.

1471
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:16,559
» All right. Uh, just a couple questions.

1472
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:19,839
So, [clears throat] the you guys, the

1473
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:21,440
city is requesting in addition uh to the

1474
01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:23,359
approval

1475
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,040
more requirements around an

1476
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:27,520
archaeologist.

1477
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,960
Um what can you and you probably said it

1478
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,040
but can you run me through the thought

1479
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,280
process there because I think the

1480
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,640
purpose of concessions and reducing

1481
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,880
parking and all these things are to keep

1482
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,960
construction costs down which allows the

1483
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,720
affordable housing and I've been on

1484
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,799
projects with a full-time arch

1485
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,520
archaeologist on site and it's extremely

1486
01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:47,680
expensive and I've in my career never

1487
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,200
actually found anything that not to say

1488
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,480
that it wouldn't be justified to a

1489
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,839
degree. So could you walk me through

1490
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,440
that because

1491
01:01:51,839 --> 01:01:55,359
» Yeah, as I stated with the previous

1492
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,799
iteration, we did prepare a mitigated

1493
01:01:55,359 --> 01:01:59,599
negative declaration and there was an

1494
01:01:56,799 --> 01:02:01,599
archa a report prepared for the site.

1495
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:03,599
The archaeologists who went out did not

1496
01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:05,359
find any artifacts or evidence uh you

1497
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:07,359
know of of cultural resources being

1498
01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:09,280
located on the site. Um but we did

1499
01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:10,799
receive a comment from the Native

1500
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,280
American community and that was a

1501
01:02:10,799 --> 01:02:14,880
request. Um and so uh we've worked with

1502
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,640
the applicant and they are comfortable

1503
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,280
with the with the condition and are

1504
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,799
ready to accept it. Um and so it would

1505
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,160
require you know monitoring when they

1506
01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:24,640
first break the ground open and are

1507
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,799
doing that grading. Um but it is in re

1508
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,720
in response to a previous comment that

1509
01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:31,200
re received from the tribes.

1510
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:33,760
» Okay. I understand. And and the

1511
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,480
applicant you guys are okay. All right.

1512
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:39,599
I know that can get pretty expensive. So

1513
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:42,960
um the only other thing is um the trash

1514
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:44,319
enclosure. Don't love where it's at. I'm

1515
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,680
not sure if there's a lot of other

1516
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:47,920
options. seems like it's just kind of

1517
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,920
hanging out there. But, uh, not really a

1518
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,280
question, more of a comment. But my only

1519
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,440
other thing would be like maybe you

1520
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,960
could tuck that into the hillside or

1521
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,520
something a little more creative. But

1522
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,119
aside from that, um, oh, just just one

1523
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,200
more thing with with these um

1524
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:03,520
concessions, just what I was doing quick

1525
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:06,000
quick research, unless it provoke from

1526
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:09,359
my understanding propos uh is a major

1527
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,280
safety or health issue, we really that's

1528
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:13,359
pretty much entitled, right? Like they

1529
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,720
because of what they're providing.

1530
01:03:13,359 --> 01:03:17,200
» That's correct. the city would be

1531
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:19,680
exposed to legal challenges if if we did

1532
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,920
not uh you know accept the the density

1533
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,839
bonus requested and those concessions.

1534
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:27,039
» Where's that line at? Because you know

1535
01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:29,680
we're less parking. I I get the point.

1536
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:32,480
Probably never going to be full. Is

1537
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:34,160
there like a cost analysis done where

1538
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,000
like well actually we could get two more

1539
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,160
or four more spots for little to no

1540
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,559
money? I'm just curious like where the

1541
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:43,359
line is on that, right? because

1542
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:44,720
» For for for $5,000 they could get all

1543
01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:46,880
the spots. I'm not saying that's true.

1544
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,559
Like where is that line drawn? And

1545
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,720
» There is some language in state law that

1546
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:52,079
addresses that. Um it would be the onus

1547
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,440
of the city to provide that

1548
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:55,200
documentation. It's not the

1549
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,039
responsibility of the applicant and so

1550
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,880
it would be a financial burden on the

1551
01:03:57,039 --> 01:04:01,119
city to do that. We do have the city

1552
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:04,000
attorney on the line and if she wants to

1553
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:05,839
to chime in um I'm sure she has knows

1554
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,240
the law better than I. Yeah, I was just

1555
01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:10,160
I was just curious because so it's it's

1556
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,920
on us to say, well, actually it wouldn't

1557
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,319
cost you that much more money to do it

1558
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,000
is what you're saying. Okay. All right.

1559
01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:19,599
Well,

1560
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:21,680
that's all I had. Thank you.

1561
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:24,160
» Thank you, Commissioner. Looking over to

1562
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,480
my right, Commissioner Kogler. Mr.

1563
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:28,400
» Chair, thank you. Um, my site related

1564
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,400
questions have already been asked and

1565
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,319
answered thanks to my peers and Katie's

1566
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,000
responses. I'm just curious for the

1567
01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:36,000
applicant. You said you have a marketing

1568
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,520
study that's going to be done. Since the

1569
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,880
housing redevelopment authority is a

1570
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,039
component of this project, will that be

1571
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,640
public and available to us to look at

1572
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:44,079
when it's completed?

1573
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,599
» Okay. I think that would be really

1574
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:48,079
informative for this group and others

1575
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:50,559
within the city to have updated data.

1576
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:53,200
Thank you.

1577
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:55,760
» Thank you, sir. Commissioner Neil,

1578
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:58,160
» I was on DRC when this came forward and

1579
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,079
I quizzed the group extensively, so I

1580
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,960
think I had most of my questions

1581
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,480
answered.

1582
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,799
» Great.

1583
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,559
Good. Okay.

1584
01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:08,240
Okay. Most of my questions Well,

1585
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:11,280
actually, you know what? I'll I'll ask

1586
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:13,520
just for clarification purposes. Um, you

1587
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,440
mentioned improvements.

1588
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,280
Sidewalks.

1589
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,319
I think it had Does it have sidewalks

1590
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,079
now?

1591
01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:22,400
» Sidewalks are existing. I think there's

1592
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:24,480
a few spots I think some accessibility

1593
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,240
improvements, but the you're correct.

1594
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,240
The there is curb gutter and sidewalk

1595
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,079
surrounding uh both the north and west

1596
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,680
side of the lot. So when it comes to

1597
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:34,319
what because there's a lot of water that

1598
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,079
runs down Nibck during that you know

1599
01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:37,760
during our storms is there going to be

1600
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:41,760
added drainage?

1601
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:43,200
» I'm going to defer to the city engineer.

1602
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,680
» There's a big piece.

1603
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,440
» Yeah.

1604
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:52,400
» Um there are drainage um proposed for

1605
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:56,480
the project um at the the left or excuse

1606
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:58,079
me the right turn in and right turn out.

1607
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,720
Edith, could you identify yourself,

1608
01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:00,240
please?

1609
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,319
» Edith, could you identify yourself?

1610
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,079
Thank you.

1611
01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:06,799
» This is Edith Lim with North Coast

1612
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:08,799
Engineering.

1613
01:06:06,799 --> 01:06:12,480
» Um,

1614
01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:15,839
and there is currently um a a cross

1615
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:18,000
gutter that goes across the existing

1616
01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:21,200
driveway turnin.

1617
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:25,039
So, with the the little right hand turn

1618
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:26,640
in, right hand turn out, um there will

1619
01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:29,599
be

1620
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:33,359
um an undersidewalk drain specific for

1621
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:34,799
this project to keep that water flowing.

1622
01:06:33,359 --> 01:06:37,039
» Okay, thank you for that.

1623
01:06:34,799 --> 01:06:39,520
» And and I would add to that is that um

1624
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:41,200
storm water would continue to flow in

1625
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,680
current conditions.

1626
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,400
» Okay.

1627
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,079
» As it does today.

1628
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:48,160
» As it does today. Okay.

1629
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:50,960
» Thank you very much. Um question Katie.

1630
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:54,240
So Highlands and the big parking lot is

1631
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:56,240
behind it to the uh to the south,

1632
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,799
correct? Is there going to be pathways

1633
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:01,760
and everything to that side of it or

1634
01:06:58,799 --> 01:07:04,640
does does the restricted area, the creek

1635
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,640
prevent anything from going that way?

1636
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,359
» Yeah, any pathway would require grading

1637
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:12,000
within that uh within the the creek um

1638
01:07:09,359 --> 01:07:14,079
or the the seasonal drainage. Um uh so

1639
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,760
if folks wanted to utilize, you know,

1640
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:17,520
the Highlands, if they wanted to to make

1641
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,520
the hike, um they would be going down

1642
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,280
the sidewalk and down that unnamed road

1643
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,119
that's to the west of the site.

1644
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:25,039
» Okay. And I'm sorry, I'm going to ask

1645
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:27,359
one more question. I I keep looking at

1646
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:30,640
my notes. Um there was a mention about

1647
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:33,920
kids. So in my understanding, it's so

1648
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:35,760
it's a 55 and older,

1649
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,359
not to say 55 year olds don't have

1650
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,720
children.

1651
01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:43,200
Is it is it children restricted or

1652
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:46,799
children are acceptable

1653
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:48,480
on site living?

1654
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:50,400
» It's the size of the unit.

1655
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,480
» You can you somebody come up to the mic

1656
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:56,039
and answer that for those that are

1657
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,039
hearing listening.

1658
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:02,079
» It's just public comment.

1659
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:05,680
» So this So there's a majority of onebs,

1660
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:08,559
right? 25 onebedrooms and um the rest

1661
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:10,160
are two bedrooms. So the units

1662
01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:12,559
themselves don't really lend themselves

1663
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:14,559
to having anyone really else in there.

1664
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:17,520
And typically the two bedrooms are

1665
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:20,000
occupied with couples or one and a

1666
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:22,159
caregiver. Um which it's typically

1667
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,279
couples if anything. Um at least that's

1668
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:25,679
our population that we're seeing at

1669
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:29,679
Riverwalk. So like I said in the lease

1670
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:31,279
it's it's pretty clear. Um, we're um

1671
01:08:29,679 --> 01:08:33,679
with fair housing laws, there are

1672
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:35,440
exceptions that need to be made. Um, I

1673
01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:36,560
can't like tell you exactly what the

1674
01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:39,199
fair housing laws are. I don't have

1675
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,560
those memorized, but um, we really

1676
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:43,520
haven't come up with that instance where

1677
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,880
there's young children or even children

1678
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,560
living with them. It's usually like

1679
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,440
visiting if anything.

1680
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,359
» Okay.

1681
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:51,440
» It's it's hard to guarantee not, right?

1682
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:53,120
I can't put that stamp of guarantee on

1683
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:54,640
it, but it's not what what we've seen.

1684
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,719
It's not what's at chat daughter. It's

1685
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,960
not at Riverwalk Terrace. Well, and just

1686
01:08:56,719 --> 01:09:00,960
to confirm, there's no fencing between

1687
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,719
Nibck Road and the property itself.

1688
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,759
Right. Correct. So, the concern I was

1689
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:08,560
thinking is if there's children

1690
01:09:05,759 --> 01:09:10,159
and they start playing out in the front

1691
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,239
and

1692
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:13,520
happen to wander on towards Nipick, that

1693
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:14,960
could also be very dangerous.

1694
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,560
» And there's a um I don't know if we

1695
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:20,080
could put the site plan up real quick.

1696
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:23,040
Um the the building is set pretty far

1697
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:25,279
off as far as we could get it um from

1698
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:27,040
Niblick. And so it's there's a pretty

1699
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:28,560
large area there. I don't know the exact

1700
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,359
dimensions, but you know, the parking

1701
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,960
lot is there and and uh it's not like

1702
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:34,880
the building's right on top of Niblick.

1703
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,960
I'm not making any, you know, I'm not

1704
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,080
saying people can't walk, but that is

1705
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,560
that was the point.

1706
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:38,880
» Okay.

1707
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:39,839
» Yeah.

1708
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,400
» All right. I appreciate that.

1709
01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:41,120
» Yeah. No problem.

1710
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,679
» Thank you very much.

1711
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,679
» Of course,

1712
01:09:43,679 --> 01:09:47,759
» Sir. Uh on the mic, please, if you're

1713
01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:49,679
going to make a comment.

1714
01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:52,319
» I don't think are you are you speaking

1715
01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:53,679
on behalf of the applicant or you public

1716
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:55,600
comment?

1717
01:09:53,679 --> 01:09:58,320
We're almost to public comment. Just

1718
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,480
give me two seconds.

1719
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:03,040
Sorry, I thought he was with you guys.

1720
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:05,280
All right, no other questions. Then

1721
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,400
we'll go ahead and and then now go

1722
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,679
ahead. You don't have to sit. We're

1723
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,040
going to move this to public comment.

1724
01:10:07,679 --> 01:10:12,440
We'll start with you, sir, if you'd like

1725
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,440
to come on up.

1726
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,760
» Housing authorities.

1727
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:23,600
» Go ahead and state your name, please.

1728
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:25,679
» David Anderson. Okay. And um the rules

1729
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:28,560
are that uh for seniors, you can have a

1730
01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:30,640
guest for up to 10 days or nights over

1731
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,640
the course of the year. You get 10 in a

1732
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,719
row, but once you can't get past the 10,

1733
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,800
you can't have any more. You can't have

1734
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:38,719
overnight guests continuously beyond the

1735
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,800
10 days. And that typically is counted.

1736
01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:42,640
I tell you who tells on their their

1737
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,600
neighbors tell on them. So that's how

1738
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,920
that works.

1739
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,520
» Okay?

1740
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,000
» But also, our leases are all

1741
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,480
month-to-month. So there's no

1742
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:53,520
protections for long-term leases here.

1743
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:56,560
And when a ten is in violation, it's not

1744
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:59,280
difficult to document it and then move

1745
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:01,440
them on if necessary.

1746
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:04,320
» We we we strive to keep peace in the

1747
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:05,760
valley. Uh it gets difficult sometimes,

1748
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:09,120
especially with older folks who are kind

1749
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:11,679
of in their way and uh um little things

1750
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,360
will set them off. Noise or vibration or

1751
01:11:11,679 --> 01:11:15,760
you know your dog barked and didn't like

1752
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,360
it. So things like that come up and it's

1753
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,400
uh we just try to keep that all under

1754
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,159
under control.

1755
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:23,120
» Okay.

1756
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:25,600
That's it. Thank you, sir.

1757
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:27,920
Any other public comments?

1758
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:31,159
Seeing none in the audience, Marcy, we

1759
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,159
have one caller.

1760
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:45,040
» Caller, can you state your name?

1761
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:47,679
» Hi. Uh, my name is Joseph Collins.

1762
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:52,640
» Go ahead.

1763
01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:54,560
U I have u been in and out of Pastor

1764
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:58,239
Robels

1765
01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:00,080
uh since 1971

1766
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:05,040
and we've owned the Alder Creek

1767
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:08,480
apartments for I don't know 25 years or

1768
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:11,520
around that and in recent times we've

1769
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:13,520
seen a lot of development in town uh

1770
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:17,679
some affordable

1771
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:23,120
uh some market Um, I heard the comment

1772
01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:26,880
earlier that uh uh that you just needed

1773
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:29,440
a lot more housing in Pasarobos. Uh,

1774
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:32,320
well, that may not necessarily be true.

1775
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:35,120
If you do a study, you'll find out that

1776
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:39,280
uh, Arrive, one of our newer

1777
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:42,159
communities, has 15 vacancies. Blue Oak,

1778
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:44,960
uh, also a fairly new, has 10 vacancies.

1779
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:48,080
We at Alder Creek have 10 vacancies,

1780
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:50,480
beautiful rehabilitated apartments, no

1781
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:52,880
takers. We can't fill them. Uh there's

1782
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:54,560
not enough people in the community to

1783
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:58,239
occupy

1784
01:12:54,560 --> 01:13:00,640
the market apartments and we're happy to

1785
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:02,560
show our community and for that matter

1786
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,080
the other communities. But anyway,

1787
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:08,080
having said that, we're dealing with

1788
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:09,679
this the affordable housing. Now, uh I

1789
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:14,560
wanted to address a couple of issues

1790
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:17,360
there. uh the the architecture

1791
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:19,040
it looks to to me you come to pass robos

1792
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:22,080
because you've got open space you've got

1793
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:27,120
hills it's beautiful it's amazing it's

1794
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:29,840
wonderful and uh this architecture is a

1795
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:33,280
glob of dwellings

1796
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:36,480
set on this parcel

1797
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:38,880
and then in order to facilitate that

1798
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:40,640
you've got to cut the bluff and then

1799
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:43,199
you've got to

1800
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,880
uh support the the bluff. Well, the

1801
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:48,320
bluffs

1802
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:53,760
are one of the most amazing things about

1803
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:56,719
the community. But uh you know that

1804
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:58,800
be it as it may, I want to talk quickly

1805
01:13:56,719 --> 01:14:02,800
about the parking.

1806
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:06,960
I'm 76 years old. I think I'm certainly

1807
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:12,640
uh uh qualify for 55 and older. I still

1808
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:15,120
drive. my wife still drives. Uh I think

1809
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:18,159
uh saying that these folks are not going

1810
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:22,480
to drive is inappropriate because they

1811
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:26,480
will and there's not enough parking on

1812
01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:30,400
site to accommodate their visitors to

1813
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:31,920
accommodate them. And uh so these folks

1814
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,159
are going to have to park someplace

1815
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,920
else. They're going to go down and park

1816
01:14:34,159 --> 01:14:38,719
in the church parking lot, the shopping

1817
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,679
center parking lot, and that's going to

1818
01:14:38,719 --> 01:14:41,280
be a problem. They're going to come up

1819
01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:47,840
and park with us when we've got plenty

1820
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:49,679
of parking. And so I I think that

1821
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:52,560
the parking

1822
01:14:49,679 --> 01:14:54,400
is a factor. It's a big factor with this

1823
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,800
community.

1824
01:14:54,400 --> 01:15:01,800
Uh that I wanted to also address.

1825
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:01,800
» Sir, your your time is up. Stay locked.

1826
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,640
» Sir, you

1827
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:08,199
» Yes.

1828
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,199
» Your time is up.

1829
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:24,320
» Are we good?

1830
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:27,360
» One more caller.

1831
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:30,800
» Caller, can you state your name?

1832
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:36,000
» Oh. Um, my name is Sheila Kurs

1833
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:40,480
and um I have a a problem with um the

1834
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:43,440
parking also. Um I'm have many relatives

1835
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:46,480
that live out of town and in their

1836
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:49,679
communities um

1837
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:52,000
there are um

1838
01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:55,760
apartments or senior living with no

1839
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:57,760
guest parking. So when these guests come

1840
01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:00,560
or if you have an additional parking,

1841
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:02,239
you're parking in the street. Niblick is

1842
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,920
sloped.

1843
01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:09,520
And I my question is, is there um does

1844
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:11,120
Niblick allow street parking in this

1845
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:15,199
zone?

1846
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:16,800
Um because guests will park um on the

1847
01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:19,920
street.

1848
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:21,920
And if you've got another senior coming

1849
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,360
in the community and visiting, they're

1850
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,159
going to want to park in the parking

1851
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:28,239
lot. So, if there's no guest parking, I

1852
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:31,440
understand it's it's free for all. It's

1853
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:34,080
first come, first serve parking, but

1854
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:37,520
you're you're you're going to want to

1855
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:43,120
have um over time more additional

1856
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:45,120
parking. Um, and I also, um,

1857
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:47,120
you know, agree with the the the

1858
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:51,199
structure, the look of the building. It

1859
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:53,360
doesn't look like it belongs in Paso. It

1860
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:56,159
looks like it belongs

1861
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:59,679
in Southern California

1862
01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:02,159
um, in a bigger in a bigger town. Um, so

1863
01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:03,760
those are my comments is I I really

1864
01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:08,960
think that there is going to be a

1865
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:11,440
parking problem here. Um and um the

1866
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:14,440
building really doesn't fit the

1867
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:14,440
community.

1868
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,760
» Thank you caller.

1869
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:52,480
caller.

1870
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,560
» Good evening.

1871
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:55,280
» Can you hear me?

1872
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,000
» Yes.

1873
01:17:55,280 --> 01:18:01,280
» Go ahead. You have three minutes.

1874
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:04,880
» Hi, this is Linda George, U 3126 Spring

1875
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:06,960
Street. I have to echo about the

1876
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:11,280
parking. It's really interesting

1877
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:14,000
project. Um the parking I have been in

1878
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:16,080
the longest parking war

1879
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,800
uh ever in my existence. has been

1880
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,640
ongoing for 60 days. And this is

1881
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:23,360
something that I approached uh Chief

1882
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:26,080
Nord about because there are no real

1883
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,880
experts on parking or neighborhood

1884
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:32,800
disputes, so to speak. And that's one of

1885
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:37,840
the most common problems um with people

1886
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:40,480
is parking. So, I didn't get to hear if

1887
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:43,040
there's street parking on Nibblet, but

1888
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:45,199
for me, I mean, maybe I don't understand

1889
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:48,159
why there would be oak trees when there

1890
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:51,199
could be more parking, but you guys

1891
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:54,320
limited parking on a mixed use per

1892
01:18:51,199 --> 01:18:57,040
resident. Now, I understand with the ADU

1893
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:59,520
laws that that came out, not this last

1894
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:01,920
legislative session, but the one prior,

1895
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:04,159
that you guys are not requ uh that you

1896
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:07,440
can't require um I don't know if it's

1897
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:11,360
ADUs or buildings in general to um

1898
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:14,560
provide parking. Um, so I don't know how

1899
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:18,080
you guys work that conflict when you're

1900
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:20,800
uh designing these uh these buildings,

1901
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:23,360
but just take it from somebody who's

1902
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:26,159
having the last 60 days plus of hell and

1903
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:29,199
trying to go through 8 CD, that kind of

1904
01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:32,159
stuff that those things really matter. I

1905
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:34,320
know you get density bonuses and bonuses

1906
01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:37,120
here, etc., etc.,

1907
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:39,840
But we're everyday people and we like

1908
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:42,560
our little territory that we pay for.

1909
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:44,480
And I'm always afraid I'm working in in

1910
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,880
nursing homes and things like that back

1911
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:50,400
in the heyday why you guys would put

1912
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:52,800
seniors in a three-story building. Um I

1913
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,880
could see rescue efforts women or people

1914
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:58,239
in wheelchairs disabled because

1915
01:19:54,880 --> 01:20:01,360
generally I'm 58.

1916
01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:04,159
um if I went to go live there, I would

1917
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,679
be upset if my my grandchild can stay

1918
01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:07,840
longer. What if my son was in the

1919
01:20:05,679 --> 01:20:10,159
Marines? That kind of stuff. But just

1920
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:12,000
remember when it comes to parking, when

1921
01:20:10,159 --> 01:20:15,920
I worked at Agnes Developmental Center,

1922
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:18,159
we had a res a staff shoot somebody over

1923
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:22,440
it and died. So, please keep that in

1924
01:20:18,159 --> 01:20:22,440
mind. Thank you very much.

1925
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:37,920
Okay. All right. I think we're good.

1926
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:39,760
Good. Thank you, Marcy. Okay. I I think

1927
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:42,080
of all that I probably one thing,

1928
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:44,400
Warren, the the parking on Nibcktick,

1929
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,719
there is no parking right directly in

1930
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,440
front of the development on Nibble.

1931
01:20:46,719 --> 01:20:49,840
Correct.

1932
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:52,320
» Yeah. Let's have the city engineer come

1933
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:55,360
up and Leslie can answer the questions

1934
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:57,120
about Nibck best.

1935
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,400
» Sorry, I missed one caller. It looks

1936
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:03,159
like there's one more that made it in

1937
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:03,159
right before public comment.

1938
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,040
» Hello.

1939
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,040
» Hi. Go ahead. State your name. You have

1940
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:16,080
three minutes.

1941
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:18,400
Hi, this is Trevor Collins and I wanted

1942
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:20,960
to ask if they've done any studies. If

1943
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,560
you go up to Nickerson,

1944
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,560
I everybody's going to go up and do a

1945
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:26,560
U-turn up there. Have we done any

1946
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,080
traffic mitig mitigation for that

1947
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,480
location?

1948
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:36,800
And then also I wanted to mention that

1949
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:39,120
uh the u um occupancy the state law says

1950
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,880
that you can put two plus one into an

1951
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,040
apartment. So, in the one-bedroom

1952
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,640
apartments, you can put three people. In

1953
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,480
the two-bedroom apartments, you can put

1954
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:49,840
five,

1955
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:51,520
and people do. And so, uh, I think that

1956
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,560
parking is going to be a really big

1957
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:56,320
issue. And then the traffic, there's

1958
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,320
going to be a lot of U-turns up there,

1959
01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:01,679
and we need to address that or somebody

1960
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:04,159
needs to address that U-turn location

1961
01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:09,560
because it's going to be backed up all

1962
01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:09,560
the way all the way down the street.

1963
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,360
Okay, that is the last uh public color.

1964
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:24,639
» Is this on?

1965
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:27,120
» Thank you, Mercy.

1966
01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:30,000
» Is this on? There we go. Um, so to

1967
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:32,719
address uh the condition on Nibck, um

1968
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,800
there is no existing on street parking

1969
01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:37,440
in Nibcktick right now and none is

1970
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:39,440
proposed. Uh currently the geometry of

1971
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:41,760
the street, you've got two through lanes

1972
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:43,760
that are eastbound, two through lanes

1973
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:46,639
that are westbound, and then class 2

1974
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,480
bicycles on each side. Uh into the site,

1975
01:22:46,639 --> 01:22:50,880
there is a designated right turn lane as

1976
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:53,760
well. And again, there is no parking

1977
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:56,159
within Niblick currently. Um regarding

1978
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:58,320
the call, uh the caller that addressed

1979
01:22:56,159 --> 01:23:00,960
the concern with the no U-turns, that

1980
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:02,719
was also evaluated by the city's traffic

1981
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,639
consultant. They identified the same

1982
01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:08,600
concern and there will be a no U-turn

1983
01:23:04,639 --> 01:23:08,600
sign placed at Nickerson.

1984
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,159
» Okay, thank you for that. So, with that,

1985
01:23:12,639 --> 01:23:16,880
we're going to go ahead and close public

1986
01:23:14,159 --> 01:23:20,320
comment, bring it back to the commission

1987
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:22,560
for last questions, comments, or I would

1988
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:24,639
entertain a motion.

1989
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,480
Commissioner Connley.

1990
01:23:24,639 --> 01:23:28,880
» Thank you. Um, I'm looking at the

1991
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:32,159
traffic study and uh I don't know if it

1992
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:34,880
has to do with the uh allowing for over

1993
01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:39,040
and above what's uh been analyzed, but

1994
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:41,840
uh it's based on uh less than 30 units.

1995
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:44,880
I think they have 24 lowincome housing

1996
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:48,159
units uh as the basis for the traffic

1997
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:52,480
study. Um

1998
01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:55,679
and um I don't believe that even given

1999
01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:58,480
that there was a major impact on uh

2000
01:23:55,679 --> 01:24:01,040
Nibck Road, but would that need to be

2001
01:23:58,480 --> 01:24:04,920
addressed uh because of the number being

2002
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,920
30 instead of 24?

2003
01:24:12,239 --> 01:24:16,960
» There you go. Okay. Um I don't believe

2004
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:18,719
so. uh because of the the trip

2005
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,400
generation was already calculated in

2006
01:24:18,719 --> 01:24:22,880
there and and as you already mentioned

2007
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:25,199
and observed that um the trip generation

2008
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,960
was well below any any significant

2009
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:28,400
impact.

2010
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:31,360
» Yeah, I thought it was pretty ne

2011
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:35,520
negligible. Um just a comment I I think

2012
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:38,400
the access off of uh restricted to off

2013
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:41,199
of NibLick is better than having access

2014
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:44,719
to the parking lot below. I think that's

2015
01:24:41,199 --> 01:24:47,600
a good point. And I think the elderly uh

2016
01:24:44,719 --> 01:24:50,560
community, the senior living is a good

2017
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:54,639
use for this site. I mean, this is a

2018
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:57,120
difficult site to to to use that space

2019
01:24:54,639 --> 01:24:59,280
because it's so limited. So, I really

2020
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:01,920
like this project as far as the type of

2021
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:05,440
use and the fact that the access is

2022
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:07,360
limited to NibLick. So, I would be

2023
01:25:05,440 --> 01:25:10,560
willing to entertain a motion unless

2024
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:12,639
other have have comments.

2025
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,080
Looks like Commissioner Marlo has

2026
01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:14,719
» No, I'd like to make a motion. There's

2027
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,639
no other comment.

2028
01:25:14,719 --> 01:25:18,400
» I love it.

2029
01:25:16,639 --> 01:25:19,280
» We got a comment by Commissioner

2030
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,639
Christensen.

2031
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:23,360
» Go ahead.

2032
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:25,920
» Thank you. I just wanted to make a

2033
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:28,000
comment in the sense that um my first

2034
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:30,080
concern was parking and so I hear the

2035
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,719
public's comments. I think that they

2036
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:35,280
have to also consider is that this is a

2037
01:25:32,719 --> 01:25:37,040
low income. the concessions take a lot

2038
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:40,000
of that out of the city's hands in a way

2039
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:42,960
that kind of handcuffs us to a certain

2040
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,800
extent. So staff tries to do the best

2041
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,159
that they can to mitigate whatever is

2042
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,400
possible and I think they've done a

2043
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:50,080
great job doing that. Uh we do have a

2044
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:52,080
turn lane there already. So I understand

2045
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,760
the concern from the traffic standpoint.

2046
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:56,960
I think that that will get cars out of

2047
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:58,960
traffic's way. Um the ingress egress

2048
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:01,280
there's really that's probably the best

2049
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,639
solution rather than down from below

2050
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,239
where you're going through a parking lot

2051
01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:07,199
where pedestrians are and you're

2052
01:26:04,239 --> 01:26:09,280
crossing a pedestrian and bike trail

2053
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:12,080
which was a concern of mine as well from

2054
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:14,719
the original um approval when I saw

2055
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:17,679
that. So I hear the public's comments.

2056
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:19,920
Um I really do. I'm I'm one of those

2057
01:26:17,679 --> 01:26:21,920
commissioners that that takes that as a

2058
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,840
a very large concern when I'm looking at

2059
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:26,159
these projects. But at the same time, I

2060
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:29,040
am familiar with the senior housing

2061
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:30,960
developments in town. Uh I have friends

2062
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:34,719
and family that live in some of those

2063
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,080
and I can tell you that um um I I don't

2064
01:26:34,719 --> 01:26:37,760
think that parking's really been an

2065
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,120
issue for them. I should know my mom

2066
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,440
would call me first thing if there was

2067
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:44,159
an issue. So just want to be clear on

2068
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:46,960
that. Um so I like the project and I

2069
01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:48,480
just wanted to uh put my two cents in on

2070
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,920
the parking. So thank you,

2071
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:52,159
» Commissioner Christensen. Thank you.

2072
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,600
Well said. I'll enter I'll I'll

2073
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:54,880
entertain a motion if there are no other

2074
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,800
comments or questions.

2075
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:59,120
» Yeah, I'd like to make a motion. Is it

2076
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:01,760
possible to put the uh additional

2077
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:04,080
condition up there for for me? I don't

2078
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:09,120
have that one memorized.

2079
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:12,800
Okay. I'd like to uh move to uh approve

2080
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:14,639
development plan 25-15 for a 30 unit

2081
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,639
multifamily residential development

2082
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:19,040
including an affordable housing density

2083
01:27:16,639 --> 01:27:21,600
bonus by adopting draft resolution

2084
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:24,480
PC26xs

2085
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:26,960
xxx based on findings with amended

2086
01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:30,239
conditions of approval to include and

2087
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:32,080
the qualified uh principal

2088
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:34,320
investigator defined by as an

2089
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,840
archaeologist just reference what's on

2090
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,280
the that one. [laughter]

2091
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,239
» I wasn't going to say the whole thing. I

2092
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,600
was just going to do a summary.

2093
01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:40,800
» Oh, don't. I was going to cut them off.

2094
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,239
» Yeah. No, we were getting there.

2095
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,920
» We got a first on the table by

2096
01:27:42,239 --> 01:27:44,960
Commissioner Marlo. Do I hear a second?

2097
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:48,960
» I'll second it.

2098
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:52,520
» Seconded by Commissioner Connley.

2099
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,520
» Roll call, please.

2100
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,320
» Commissioner Marlo.

2101
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,360
» I.

2102
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:55,760
» Commissioner Connley.

2103
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:56,800
» I.

2104
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,280
» Mr. Rhoden.

2105
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,719
» I.

2106
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,199
» Mr. Kler.

2107
01:27:58,719 --> 01:28:00,080
» I.

2108
01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:00,480
» Commissioner Neil.

2109
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,520
» I.

2110
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:02,080
» Mr. Christensen.

2111
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,520
» Hi.

2112
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,400
» Chair Person Karubius. I motion passes

2113
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,800
70.

2114
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:10,159
» Congratulations.

2115
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:13,840
» All right, moving on to discussion

2116
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:16,719
items. Consent calendar for the DRC

2117
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:18,800
minutes uh for December 15th, 29th,

2118
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:21,600
January 5th, and the planning commission

2119
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:24,400
minutes from January 13th. Are there any

2120
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:26,000
changes, comments? If not, I will I will

2121
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,280
ask for Oh, Commissioner Neil.

2122
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,080
» I move approval.

2123
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:28,880
» Thank you, sir.

2124
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,960
» Second.

2125
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:33,360
» We got a second by Commissioner Kogler.

2126
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:36,480
I believe that was first by Neil,

2127
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:38,239
seconded by Commissioner Kogler.

2128
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:40,080
Roll call, please.

2129
01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:40,800
» Commissioner Neil,

2130
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» I.

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» Mr. Kogler,

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» I.

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» Commissioner Christensen,

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» I.

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» Commissioner Connelly,

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» I.

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» Mr. Rhoden,

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» I.

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» Mr. Marlo,

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» I.

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» Chairperson Cob Rubius.

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» Hi.

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» Motion passes 70.

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» Okay. On to other reports. Housing

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Constraints and Opportunities Committee.

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01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:04,239
Yes, we're working on an agenda for

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February. Is it February 12th? February

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12th, 2 p.m. will be our next housing

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01:29:06,639 --> 01:29:11,440
constraints committee meeting. Um the

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01:29:08,639 --> 01:29:14,159
main focus will be looking at some

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01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:16,159
proposed changes to the city's um

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01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:18,639
development fees. Those are the cost

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01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:20,800
recovery fees that we charge um

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01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:22,800
applicants to process permits in the

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city. Those haven't been updated in 20

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01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,400
years. There's been a consultant working

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01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:28,400
on that for the past year or so. So,

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they're going to be presenting um the

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01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,360
proposed new fees to the housing

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constraints committee. Housing

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01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,239
constraints committee will make a

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recommendation to the city council. City

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01:29:34,239 --> 01:29:39,040
council will have the final say. They'll

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hold a hearing on that in uh March.

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Thank you. Thank you for that, Warren.

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All right. DRC committee uh rotation

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01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:50,960
schedule. Any comments, changes?

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01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:53,960
None. Seeing none. Okay, we're good on

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01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,960
that.

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Okay, moving on to any final planning

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01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,800
commissioner comments. I see

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01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:01,199
Commissioner Kogler reaching for the

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mic.

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» Yeah, one quick one, Mr. Chair. Um, when

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01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,280
the public calls in, they talk somewhere

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01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,960
from the heavens. I've tried to figure

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01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,800
out where it's coming from or just

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01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,080
bounces around in here. I don't know if

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it's possible to get any better

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01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:15,600
acoustics, but I truly find it hard

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01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:17,760
sometimes. And I noticed all of us were

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01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,960
straining to hear and comprehend some

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01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,639
things that were being said. So, I know

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01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:23,679
we're temporary, but I don't know if we

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01:30:20,639 --> 01:30:26,400
can get some kind of improved acoustics,

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01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:29,679
sound system, whatever. Thank you.

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01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:32,320
» Thank you, sir. Seeing no others.

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01:30:29,679 --> 01:30:34,000
So, I I want to thank Katie, that was a

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01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:37,360
lengthy presentation. Want to thank you

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for all of that. Um, you may update us

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01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:41,520
on this, Warren, but I was just curious,

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01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:44,000
how are the improvements going um at the

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01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,760
city? Thanks.

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01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:48,400
Yeah. So, we're there's basically a

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01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:50,960
two-phase process going on at city hall.

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So, phase one is the remodel of the

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second floor, the city hall space. Um,

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01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,760
that's going very well. Uh, we are we'll

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01:30:55,920 --> 01:31:00,480
be moving back in in February. So,

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01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:02,719
there'll be a formal um public service

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counter. We have additional conference

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01:31:02,719 --> 01:31:07,520
room space. And then the whole kind of

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01:31:05,199 --> 01:31:10,239
layout of cubicles and offices has been

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01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:12,159
modernized. All the paint and carpets

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01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:14,159
been refreshed. So, it's going to be a

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01:31:12,159 --> 01:31:16,159
much more efficient work area. It'll

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01:31:14,159 --> 01:31:18,239
look better. It'll accommodate more

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01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:21,440
staff members, which will be a benefit.

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So, you'll know right now that half of

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01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:25,040
our staff is working in the council

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01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,800
chamber. So, by the end of February,

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01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:29,040
they'll be moved back upstairs, which

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01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:31,440
will then open up the council chambers,

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01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:34,239
which is the next phase of the remodel

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01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:36,239
process. So, that will then be a couple

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01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:39,199
of months process. I don't think we have

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01:31:36,239 --> 01:31:42,320
a, you know, formal timeline on that. So

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I believe we will be here at least till

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summer sometime best case.

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» Okay.

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» Well, you knew where I was going with

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01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:51,920
that question. Okay. Through summer

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01:31:48,719 --> 01:31:53,600
maybe. All right.

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» Staff comments.

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01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:58,719
» Yeah. So we're in the middle of um

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01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:00,719
recruitments for planning commission. Um

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01:31:58,719 --> 01:32:03,120
we'll council is going to be doing

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01:32:00,719 --> 01:32:05,280
interviews in February. So Marcy, you

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01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:07,360
want to give us just a quick update on

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01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,800
the deadlines and how that's going to

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01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:11,040
work out?

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01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:13,040
Yes. So, we are accepting applications

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01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:15,280
until the end of this week. Um,

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01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:18,639
everything is done online via our

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01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:23,120
website. Uh, the interviews are

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01:32:18,639 --> 01:32:25,520
tenatively scheduled for

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01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:28,400
I think it's February 11th. The 11th.

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01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:30,960
Yes, sorry. February 11th. So, um once

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01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,480
we have the inner the application

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01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:35,760
process closed, we'll have more of an

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01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:38,239
idea of timelines for those applicants.

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01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:41,560
um and we will reach out to them with

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01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:41,560
that information.

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01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:47,040
» Very good. And then after um our

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01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:50,480
appointments by the council of

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01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:53,040
commissioners um those those seats

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01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:55,440
become active in March. So we do our

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01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:57,600
traditional reorganization dinner. So

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01:32:55,440 --> 01:33:00,480
Marcy, you want to tell us about that?

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» So that is scheduled for Sunday, March

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01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:05,360
1st. Um we are

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01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:05,840
can I go ahead and say where?

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01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,239
» Yeah.

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01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:10,080
» Oh, so we are scheduled to be at Calos

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in the patina room like we did a few

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01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:14,560
years back. Um so we are finalizing all

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01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:17,280
of the agreements and things with that.

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So more information to come to you guys

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01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:21,600
uh with timing and you know

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possibilities to bring a plus one and

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01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:25,040
how that all normally goes. So uh you'll

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hear from me about that.

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» All right. So Sunday, March 1st. Okay.

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Um we also have another special meeting

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01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:35,600
coming up. So um we're working on a

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01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,199
joint session meeting that'll be between

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01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:40,159
the city council, the planning

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01:33:37,199 --> 01:33:43,199
commission and the airport commission um

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to review basically the um spaceport

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01:33:43,199 --> 01:33:48,239
project and discuss kind of next steps

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01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:50,320
moving forward. I think there's some

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major decisions to be made on funding

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01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:55,520
additional processes and studies. I

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01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,800
think the pl the city council is very

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01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,400
interested to hear from both the

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01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,239
planning commission and the airport

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01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:02,239
commission before we kind of take the

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01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:04,480
next formal steps in the spaceport

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01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:08,880
process. So that's going to be

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Wednesday, March 4th, 6 p.m. here in

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01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:14,560
this noisy room. Um so mark your

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01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:16,400
calendars. Um try to keep that date and

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01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:19,679
time you know open so that you can

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01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,679
attend as well.

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01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:25,360
We expect it to be at six o'clock, which

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01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:27,840
is the normal council time.

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01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:30,159
» You'll send out a notice though.

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01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:32,159
» Yeah, it's going to be a formal meeting,

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01:34:30,159 --> 01:34:33,840
but I just wanted you to get that on

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01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:36,880
your calendar so you're not surprised at

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01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:39,840
the last second. Okay. So, other

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01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:43,520
projects, um, your next meeting is

2293
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:45,520
February 10th and it looks like a pretty

2294
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:48,000
busy agenda. So, I think there's going

2295
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:51,360
to be a multifamily

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01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:54,000
um duplex uh subdivision project that

2297
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:57,120
we're working on on Crestston Road. We

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01:34:54,000 --> 01:35:00,159
need to do some updates to our cannabis

2299
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:01,440
uh delivery ordinance. So, that will be

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01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:03,840
before you. You'll be making a

2301
01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:06,719
recommendation to council on that. We

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01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:08,800
also need to update our temporary signs

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01:35:06,719 --> 01:35:10,159
in preparation for the next election

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01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,600
cycle. So, that's another ordinance

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01:35:10,159 --> 01:35:14,880
you'll be making a recommendation to

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01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:17,360
council on. Um there's a small um

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01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:21,199
amendment to the ravine water park that

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01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:24,480
we expect to be on that agenda as well.

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01:35:21,199 --> 01:35:28,239
And then let's see next meeting February

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01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:31,760
24th uh the Pasarobus Youth Arts Center

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01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:33,600
expansion is pencled in for a hearing as

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01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:36,320
well as an expansion a fairly major

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01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:39,040
expansion to the Aligretto Hotel on Bua

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01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,960
Vista. Um so we're working on that. So I

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01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,560
think February looks like it's going to

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01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:44,480
be fairly busy. We talked about the

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01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:47,520
reorganization dinner. We're still

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01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:49,280
trying to get a hearing date kind of

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01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:51,040
schedule pulled together on the landing

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01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:53,040
project. We're getting really close, you

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01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:55,679
know, on final conditions and

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01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:58,480
development agreement points. Um, but we

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01:35:55,679 --> 01:36:00,960
don't have a formal date, but start, you

2324
01:35:58,480 --> 01:36:02,960
know, start going through that EIR so

2325
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,960
you don't cut yourself too short on

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01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:08,000
time. Um, so I think those are your

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01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:09,280
major things and be happy to answer any

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01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,080
questions. That concludes staff's

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01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,760
report.

2330
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:14,080
» Thank you, sir.

2331
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,760
Okay. If there are no other comments,

2332
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:17,760
questions, then I'll take a motion to

2333
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:19,040
adjurnn. So move.

2334
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:19,840
» So moved. All in favor?

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01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:23,239
» I.

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01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,239
» We are adjourned.